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- Mesdames et Messieurs,

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bonsoir. Pour cette première

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séance en 2025, les membres du

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conseil, moi-même vous

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souhaitons une très bonne année.

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Qui a 2025 puisse apporter santé

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et succès à vous et vos proches.

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Nous espérons que le congé des

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Fêtes vous a permis de faire le

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plein d'énergie et d'avoir de

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bons moments en famille. C'est

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avec immense tristesse que nous

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avons appris au début de l'année

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le décès de l'ancien maire,

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monsieur William Franklin

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McMurchie. Une figure

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emblématique de notre communauté

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avec un héritage de services

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publics inspirants. Nous lui

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rendrons un premier hommage au

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cours de cette séance. Encore

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cette année, la ville propose

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aux jeunes citoyens et

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citoyennes

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scolaires du trois au 7 mars,

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les inscriptions sont déjà en

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cours. Rendez-vous dès

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maintenant sur la plate-forme

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pour réserver votre place. Au

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courant du mois de décembre,

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c'est avec tristesse que nous

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avons appris le décès de madame

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Jocelyne Déziel. Madame Déziel a

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travaillé de 82 à 2018 au

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Service des affaires juridiques

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et de graves de la Ville de

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Pointe-Claire. Ses anciennes

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collègues et les citoyens

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pourront se souvenir de son

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engagement et de son approche

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attentionné envers personne.

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Nous la remercions pour les 36

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années à la ville. Tous nos soit

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de condamner Anse à sa famille

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et ses proches. La programmation

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hiver 2025, encore cette saison,

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la ville propose une grande

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variété d'activités et

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d'événements culturels de

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loisirs sportif. Visitez le site

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Web de Pointe-Claire pour

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découvrir les différentes

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options qui s'offrent à vous.

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Mettez dès maintenant la date du

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samedi 1er février à votre

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agenda pour le

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venait en famille de profiter

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des plaisirs des verts lors de

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ce traditionnel événement qui se

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enfin, les amateurs de planeur

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pourront se divertir dans les

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différentes installations

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sportives hivernales de la

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ville. Vous pratiquez la

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regrettée aimait les marches en

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pleine nature? Les sentiers de

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Terra-Cotta sont accessibles

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toute l'année. Pour être plus

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actifs et actives, les

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nombreuses patinoires

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extérieures sont les lieux tout

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désigné pour patiner en famille

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ou jouer une partie de hockey

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entre amis. Dès que les

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accumulations de neige le

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permettront, les sentiers de ski

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au club de golf Guilde et les

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dix entiers hivernaux seront

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Surveillez les comptes médias

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sociaux et les situaient de la

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ville pour les annonces de leur

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ouverture. Good evening, ladies

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and gentlemen, for this first

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meeting of 2025, the councillor

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and I would like to wish you a

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happy new year. May 2025 bring

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happiness, health and success to

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you and your loved ones. We hope

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that the holiday season provided

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you an opportunity to recharge

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your batteries and spend some

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quality time with your families.

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deeply saddened to learn that

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former Mayor William Franklin

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McMurchie had passed away. He

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was an iconic figure in our

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community and leaves an

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inspiring legacy of public

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service. We will be paying our

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first tribute to him during this

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meeting. Once again, this year,

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the city is offering the youth

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of March break camp from March

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3rd to March 7th. Registrations

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are already underway. Visit the

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looted platform now to reserve

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your spot. In December, we were

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very sorry to learn about the

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passing of Mrs. Jocelyne Déziel

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from 19 82 to 2018. Miss Déziel

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work for the City of

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Pointe-Claire. The City of

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department and clerk's office.

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will remember her for her

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unwavering commitment, genuine

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consideration she had for

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everyone. We are grateful to

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miss Déziel for 36 years of

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service to the city. Our sincere

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sympathies go out to her family

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and friends. Winter programming

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this city is offering a wide

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variety of cultural, leisure and

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sports activities and events.

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Visit the Pointe-Claire website

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to discover the various options

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available to you. Save the date

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of Saturday, February 1st for

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winter carnival. Bring the whole

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family to enjoy winter fun at

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Northview Park. As winter

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finally sets in, outdoor

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enthusiasts can enjoy the city's

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various winter sports

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facilities. If you enjoy

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snowshoeing and walking in the

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great outdoors, the terracotta

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trails are accessible all year

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round. For the more active

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among, you skating rinks are the

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perfect place to enjoy families

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gaining out being or enjoy

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enough snow, and maybe there

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all the various parts. Keep an

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eye on the City social media

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accounts and website to find out

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more about when they will be

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opening. Madame Thibault?

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- Adoption de l'ordre du jour.

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Adoption of the agenda.

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most important part of this

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meeting Le conseil municipal

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rend hommage à monsieur William

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Franklin McMurchie, décédé le

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Ontario. Ancien maire et figure

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emblématique de notre

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communauté, il laisse derrière

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lui... un héritage durable et

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une empreinte indélébile sur

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notre ville. Ce soir, nous

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exprimons notre reconnaissance

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pour tout ce qu'il a fait pour

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notre ville. Didier, travailleur

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acharné et passionné, William

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Franklin McMurchie a consacré

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près de 57 ans de sa vie à

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servir Pointe-Claire. Il a servi

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comme conseiller municipal de 90

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à 98, avant d'être à lui maire

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Le 2001 à 2005, lors des fusions

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avec la Ville de Montréal et à

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nouveau maire de 2005 à 2013,

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devenant l'un des élus qui a

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culturels. Mais en Saskatchewan,

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monsieur McMurchie a déménagé à

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Montréal en 56, où il a commencé

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. Ce premier emploi marquera le

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dans l'administration publique

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initiatives telles que: la

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dans la ville, la réglementation

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des émissions des foyers à bois,

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de l'ouest de l'île, elle a

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la Ville de Pointe-Claire. Il a

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protecteur des berges et du

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investissant dans l'acquisition

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et la protection de ces

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écosystèmes fragiles, il permet

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aux citoyens aujourd'hui et les

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générations futures de profiter

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d'espaces publics donnant sur le

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Lac-Saint-Louis. Toutefois, il

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le fer de lance de la diffusion

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de Pointe-Claire, de la Ville de

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Montréal. En 2001, il a été élu

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sein du nouveau conseil

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municipal de Montréal en tant

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que membre

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des citoyens de l'île de

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Montréal de Gérald Tremblay. Un

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parti politique qui a promis de

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décentraliser la nouvelle

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mégapole et de permettre aux

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membres de son caucus de faire

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la diffusion, si jamais le

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gouvernement provincial

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autoriser les citoyens à voter

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pour cette option lors du

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référendum local. Cette province

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n'a pas été... cette promesse

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n'a pas été tenue. McMurchie a

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été le premier conseiller

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la Compagnie de l'ouest de l'île

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en faveur de la diffusion

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municipale. Ce faisant, il a

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inéquitable visant à maintenir

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les banlieues fusionner à

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l'intérieur de Montréal. Il a

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où la plupart de ses collègues

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des autres banlieues avait soit

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changé de position pour soutenir

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la nouvelle mégapole, soit

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choisi de rester neutre.

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Aujourd'hui, le niveau

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d'autonomie dont jouit

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partie dû à sa vision et à sa

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direction. Au fil des échanges

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que j'ai eues avec monsieur

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McMurchie, j'ai toujours

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apprécié sa sagesse, son sens de

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l'humour et la facilité avec

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laquelle les citoyens ordinaires

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peuvent s'adresser à lui. Je lui

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suis particulièrement

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reconnaissant d'avoir soutenu

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l'idée de donner au YMCA

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nouvellement acquis le nom de

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Lancet... ancienne mairesse,

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Olive-Urquhart. Le rôle qu'il a

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joué dans

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l'histoire de notre vie,

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j'espérais que nous pourrions

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lui faire la distinction

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particulière de lui donner un

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parcours un bâtiment public en

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son honneur de son vivant. Ma

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préférence Halle et va toujours

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au parc situé à l'angle des rues

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Cartier et Lake Shore. Lorsque

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j'ai invoqué cette idée avec

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lui, il a insisté qu'il

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n'accepterait cet honneur que si

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le vote était unanime. Cela

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témoigne de son caractère et du

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niveau d'humilité que l'on

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trouve rarement chez les hommes

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politiques ou les personnes

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politiques. J'espère que nous

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pourrons arriver à cette

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unanimité quant Pointe-Claire

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lui doit littéralement son

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existence et lui sera toujours

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redevable. La Ville de

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Pointe-Claire présente ses plus

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sincères condoléances à la

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famille et aux proches de

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monsieur McMurchie. Nous sommes

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reconnaissants pour tout ce

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qu'il a accompli et nous nous

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souviendrons toujours de son

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dévouement envers notre

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communauté. Municipal council

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pays tribute to Mr. William

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Franklin McMurchie who passed

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away on January 1st, 2025 in

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von, Ontario. Former mayor and a

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cherished figure in our

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community, leave behind a

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lasting legacy and mark in our

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city. Tonight we honour him for

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all he has done for our city.

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Dedicated, hardworking and

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passionate, William McMurchie

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devoted 26 years of his life to

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serving Pointe-Claire. He served

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as a city council from 1990 to

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1998 before being elected mayor

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and serving from 1998 to 2001.

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He would become borough mayor

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from 2001 to 2005 during the

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municipal mergers with the City

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of Montréal and before regaining

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his post as mayor of

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Pointe-Claire from 2005 to 2013.

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His tenure in office would make

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him one of the longest serving

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elected officials in the West

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Island of Montréal. Under his

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leadership, the City achieve

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significant progress in

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environmental, social and

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cultural sectors. Born in

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Saskatchewan, Mr. McMurchie

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moved to Montréal the 1956 where

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he began working for the City of

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Pointe-Claire as a student with,

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actually, all over. This first

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job marked the start of an

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exemplary career in public

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administration and municipal

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politics. As mayor, he led

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initiatives such as reducing

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speed limits in the city,

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regulating wood burning

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fireplace emissions, opening the

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West Island's first ecocentre

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and, of course, spearheading

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Pointe-Claire is the merger from

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the City of Montréal. He was

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also devoted protector of the

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shoreline and waterfronts of

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Pointe-Claire by investing in

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the acquisition and protection

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of these delicate ecosystems, he

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has ensured that today citizens

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and future generations can enjoy

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public spaces overlooking

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Lac-Saint-Louis. Bill would be

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best known for spearheading

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Point cleanse the merger from

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the City of Montréal. In 2001,

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he was elected to represent

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Pointe-Claire on the newly merge

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Montréal City Council as a

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member of Gerard Tremblay's

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Montréal Island citizens unit. A

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party which promised to

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decentralize the new major city

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and allow its caucus members to

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campaign for the merger if ever

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the provincial government

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allowed citizens to vote for

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that option in local

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referendums. When that promise

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was broken, Bill McMurchie was

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the first City Council to lead

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Trump's caucus and become a

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leader of the West Island

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campaign for the merger. In

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doing so, he demonstrated

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genuine political courage in the

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face of the entire political or

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provincial political

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establishment, which created

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both the unfair conglomeration

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structure and an equally unfair

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referendum process into keeping

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merged suburbs within Montréal.

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He also did this at a time when

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most of his colleagues among the

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former suburban mayors have

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either changed positions to

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support the new major city or

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had chosen to remain neutral.

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The level of autonomy that

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Pointe-Claire enjoys today is in

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large part due to Bill

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McMurchie's vision and

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leadership. In exchange as I had

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with bill over the years, I

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always appreciated his wisdom,

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his sense of humour and how

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easily approachable he was

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toward ordinary citizens. I was

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particularly grateful for his

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support for naming the newly

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acquired YMCA after former mayor

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Olive-Urquhart. He actually

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teared up when I spoke to him

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about it, it was quite touching.

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Given the important role he

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played in our city's history, my

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hope was that we could do have a

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special honour of naming a

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public park or building after

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him during his lifetime. My

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preference wasn't remain the

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unnamed park at the corn of car

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chain lakeshore. I think it

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spoke to his character and a

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level of humidity really found

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among politicians. When I raised

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the idea with, and he insisted

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that he would only accept the

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honour if the vote were

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unanimous. I hope we can find

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that unanimity. Pointe-Claire

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may literally owe him its

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existence and will always be in

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his debt. The City of

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Pointe-Claire extends its

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deepest condolences to Mr.

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McMurchie's family and loved

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ones. We are profoundly grateful

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for all he has accomplished and

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will always remember his

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unwavering dedication to our

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community. Thank you.

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>> 3.1, to approve the minutes

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of the regular meeting of

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December, third, 2024 in the

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Special meetings of December,

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16th and December 18th, 2024.

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>> 4.1 do I have a mover?

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>> Eric Stork district 7.

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>> Seconder?

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>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

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>> All in favour? Question

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period. Période des questions.

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Je m'excuse, Madame Thibault. As

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usual Pour laquelle période de

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questions, vous avez été

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accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

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inscrire à la période des

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questions afin de vous permettre

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de demeurer à vos places jusqu'à

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l'appel de votre nom. Nous

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garderons 90 minutes pour la

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période des questions. Une

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personne à la fois au micro.

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Nous vous remercions d'attendre

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que le citoyen ait terminé de

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poser sa question et que vous

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soyez appelés avant de vous

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lever pour poser votre question.

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Nous accordons la priorité aux

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résidents et aux résidentes de

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Pointe-Claire. Les non-résidents

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pourront poser leurs questions

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par la suite, si le temps n'est

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pas écouler. For question

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period, you are greeted for the

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period so you can remain seated

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until your name is called. We

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shall stick to the 90 minute

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time limit for question period.

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One person at a time at the

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microphone. Thank you for

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waiting for a citizen to finish

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asking their question to be

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called before you get up to ask

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yours. We will give priority to

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Pointe-Claire residents and

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nonresidents can ask darkness

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afterward if time has run out.

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First person up

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.

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>> Hi, everyone. I would just

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like to start off by saying

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thank you to the City Council,

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the mayor and the administration

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for approving Athens Park last

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year. I also saw that it has

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been approved by the commission

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of Québec. So I'm very happy

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with that. My question is just,

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is there an estimated timeline

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for the next steps like the

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public consultation process for

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the land use an inauguration of

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the park?

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>> Very good questions. All of

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them.

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- Madame Verdun, est-ce qu'on a

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un horaire pour le parc?

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>> Estimated.

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À peu près? >> We do not, you

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have to do the signage so it

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would probably be during the

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[Inaudible]

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>> With the integration of the

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park be done before the

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consultation process to decide

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if there's going to be a

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playground or anything else

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added like that?

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>> That is what we have to

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decide with the City Council

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but, yes we can do the

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inauguration of the name of the

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park.

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>> Perfect.

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>> The name is solid.

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>> Thank you. Just a second

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question, I was also reading the

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2023 parks and green spaces

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report that Pointe-Claire

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00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,000
produced last year. I saw the

555
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000
park at the entrance of the

556
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,000
village was referred to as class

557
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000
Cartier.

558
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000
>> That is the name we all call

559
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000
it.

560
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000
>> I did not see an official

561
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000
name published.

562
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000
>> It's not.

563
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000
>> Is there a reason for that?

564
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000
>> It has not been named yet.

565
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000
The park has not been named yet,

566
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000
officially. Which is what I was

567
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000
proposing. One of my proposed --

568
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000
propositions for my speech in

569
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000
Mr. McMurchie.

570
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000
>> Thank you.

571
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000
>> Thank you. I am.

572
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Ryan Derek.

573
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000
>> Good evening. I did not know

574
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,000
how this process works. I am 6.1

575
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000
on the agenda. It's hard to ask

576
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000
a question about something that

577
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000
we have not talked about yet.

578
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,000
>> I believe Mr. Derek gets an

579
00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:04,060
opportunity 6.1? No? Go ahead.

580
00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:05,060
>> 6.1. I am 191 Lakeshore, of

581
00:21:05,060 --> 00:21:07,060
easy I'm here to see if there is

582
00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:08,060
a decision on my house but I

583
00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:09,060
guess we are going to have to

584
00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:11,060
sit and wait until we hear about

585
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:13,060
6.1. It's hard to ask questions

586
00:21:13,060 --> 00:21:14,060
about something that we cannot

587
00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:15,060
--

588
00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:16,060
>> We have not yet voted on it.

589
00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:20,060
That is correct.

590
00:21:20,060 --> 00:21:21,060
>> It's hard to argue it because

591
00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:24,060
I have contested the original

592
00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:25,060
demolition decision so we do not

593
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:27,060
know where we are at so I do not

594
00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:28,060
know what to argue about.

595
00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:29,060
>> Do you want to make an

596
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:30,060
impassioned plea?

597
00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:32,060
[Laughter]

598
00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:34,060
>> Sure. I live in that house, I

599
00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:36,060
know the first demolition

600
00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:37,060
committee that they felt that

601
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:40,060
the house was not deemed in that

602
00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:42,060
enough shape to be demolished

603
00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:45,060
but I believe the report was

604
00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:46,060
done -- was not done properly.

605
00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:48,060
They did not take into the

606
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:49,060
proper consideration. They also

607
00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:51,060
inspected the house for 1963 in

608
00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,060
the middle of summer where the

609
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,060
whole conditions in the winter

610
00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:55,060
changed. I can tell you my

611
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:58,060
bedroom is minus five and this

612
00:21:58,060 --> 00:22:00,020
house is 63 years old. For me to

613
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:05,020
take a house and unfortunately

614
00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:06,020
tearing down to build a new one,

615
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,020
which is almost the same look as

616
00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:09,020
the new neighbourhood we have

617
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:12,020
proposed. The cost of that to

618
00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:13,020
doing the renovations to bring

619
00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,020
the same thing that is going to

620
00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:17,020
cost me double. I can give you

621
00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:19,020
one estimation. On the general

622
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,020
contractor, I know the

623
00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:21,020
estimation to do my house. If I

624
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:22,020
build a house into a new house

625
00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:24,020
is gonna be 1 million dollars.

626
00:22:24,020 --> 00:22:26,020
To renovate its gonna cost me $2

627
00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:28,020
million and going to take me

628
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:29,020
twice, if not three years,

629
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:30,020
because I do not have to fight

630
00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:31,020
all. Have 1 million dollars to

631
00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,020
the house. I'm going to disturb

632
00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:34,020
the whole neighbourhood because

633
00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,020
it takes three years in my

634
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:38,020
current house is in poaching on

635
00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:39,020
the property lines and stuff

636
00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:42,020
like that. I do not think there

637
00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:44,020
is a lot of things to consider

638
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:45,020
besides walking around my house

639
00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:48,020
and saying that it's in good

640
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:49,020
condition. When I moved into the

641
00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:51,020
house, it was from 1963 inside

642
00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:53,020
and a half or a young children

643
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:55,020
and it was not safe to live in

644
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:57,020
that style house. Since I'm a

645
00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:58,020
contractor, I spend my weekends

646
00:22:58,020 --> 00:23:00,080
and stuff renovating the

647
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,080
bathroom and stuff like that to

648
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,080
bring it up to standard some in

649
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,080
my children get hurt. The fact

650
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,080
that, yes, the house kind of

651
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,080
looks in good shape cosmetics,

652
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,080
there's tons of structural

653
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,080
problems and electrical problems

654
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,080
that you cannot see unless you

655
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,080
have ex revision or you open up

656
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,080
the walls like I did. It's

657
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080
really hard to fight something

658
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,080
that you cannot talk about.

659
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,080
>> Well spoken, Mr. Derek. Thank

660
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,080
you.

661
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080
>> This is my attorney that is

662
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080
with me.

663
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080
>> You could sit down and she

664
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
can take over, if you'd like.

665
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
>> Hi, sorry. Thank you, I did

666
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,080
not mean to interrupt him but I

667
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080
just feel like he forgot to

668
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
mention an important point is

669
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080
that the previous decision from

670
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,080
-- I read the decision of the

671
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
committee. It seems it has been

672
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
based solely on a report that

673
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,080
asked the complete cost of the

674
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080
renovation $64,000. With all due

675
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080
respect, that is completely

676
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,080
unrealistic. We have reports

677
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,080
that say otherwise. Even the

678
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,040
inspection before numbers, a

679
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040
very expensive list of things

680
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,040
that need to do and it seems to

681
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,040
me that the decision was fully

682
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,040
based on that, on the 64,000

683
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040
dollar cost of reconstruction

684
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,040
and considering the reports

685
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,040
contradict that report, I think

686
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,040
the committees could take that

687
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040
into consideration as well. At

688
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040
the end of the day, all the

689
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040
other requirements that we find

690
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,040
in the bylaw, respect to the

691
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040
demolition of the movable, have

692
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040
been met. I think that is the

693
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,040
only point that we need to take

694
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040
into consideration right now. In

695
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040
the report that says that the

696
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040
cost of demolition is only

697
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040
$64,000. He says, and I

698
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,040
mentioned that in the appeal

699
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
that we filed and I do not know

700
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040
if anyone had a chance to review

701
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,040
it but we do mention that he

702
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040
mentioned several times that

703
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
supplemental reports and

704
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040
analysis should be done in order

705
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040
to compliment this report

706
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040
because it is not complete so I

707
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,000
would like for the committee to

708
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
take that into consideration as

709
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
well.

710
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,000
>> Thank you.

711
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Philippe Pare.

712
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
>> Good afternoon. My question

713
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
is as follows, we are currently

714
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
in 2025 and we are getting our

715
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000
to run your Mitchell stations

716
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,000
later this year and our new bus

717
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000
system. Light metro, light rail,

718
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000
something. My question is as

719
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000
follows, both the Saint-Jean

720
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Industry Highway 40 crossings

721
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
are still kind of extremely

722
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
dangerous for pedestrians and

723
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
cyclists to cross due to the

724
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
sidewalks and all the car

725
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000
traffic. Can we please get

726
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000
somewhat of an update for the

727
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
plan pedestrian crossing at St.

728
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000
John's and the restructuring

729
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,000
that is going to be happening on

730
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000
Des Sources four be able to

731
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,060
cross Highway 40 safely?

732
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,060
>> Madame Vendôme do we have

733
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:10,060
plans for improvement of the

734
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:11,060
crossings?

735
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:13,060
En avant des stations de renom?

736
00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:15,060
>> That we have in the CIP, we

737
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,060
have a project with the and PQ.

738
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:21,060
I do not have the timeline,

739
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:22,060
unfortunately, but it's supposed

740
00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:25,060
to be a little bit after that

741
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,060
the REM station is open but we

742
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:28,060
are working on it.

743
00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:29,060
>> Thank you. For my sub

744
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:33,060
question, if it's possible, --

745
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:34,060
>> Just intervene, I do not mean

746
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,060
to interrupt, there is a

747
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:37,060
potential overpass.

748
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:39,060
>> I know there is some --

749
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:41,060
>> A pedestrian bicycle

750
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:43,060
overpass, potentially. If all

751
00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:44,060
goes well, knock on wood, there

752
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:46,060
is potential.

753
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:49,060
>> For my second question, can

754
00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:51,060
we please ask you as you are a

755
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:53,060
member of the Anglo council

756
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:56,060
meeting in Montréal, to please

757
00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:59,060
ask the STM to get the ball

758
00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:01,020
rolling so we actually know how

759
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,020
our bus network will be

760
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,020
affected. They have been silent

761
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:06,020
and silent and silent and

762
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:07,020
nothing.

763
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:08,020
>> They have actually got their

764
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:09,020
plans ready and they have

765
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:11,020
actually started proposing them

766
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,020
to us. We are meeting with that

767
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:15,020
as we speak.

768
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,020
>> Thank you very much.

769
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:18,020
>> And they are interesting

770
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:23,020
Claude. Pat McGee.

771
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,020
>> Hello, I'm Patrick McGee the

772
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:33,020
architect filed for 191. I don't

773
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:34,020
have a whole lot but to make

774
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:36,020
sure that the demolition

775
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:38,020
committee read the engineers

776
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:41,020
report, my report as well as the

777
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:42,020
independent contractors report

778
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:44,020
on the costing analysis of

779
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,020
bringing the home up to current

780
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:48,020
standards. I do not believe they

781
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,020
have read all the doctors prior

782
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,020
to the last meeting. I want to

783
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:53,020
know if they have prior to the

784
00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:56,020
decision that has been made

785
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:57,020
first.

786
00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:59,020
>> I cannot answer that. Anybody

787
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:00,080
on the demolition committee

788
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,080
choose to answer that?

789
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,080
>> Yes, yes and yes?

790
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,080
>> Thank you Mr. McGee. Linda

791
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Dumas.

792
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080
[Inaudible]

793
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
We had it once and

794
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080
[Inaudible]

795
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,080
>> I personally love podiums

796
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,080
myself.

797
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
>> When your legs are wobbly.

798
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Good evening. Once again, I am

799
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080
here always regarding --

800
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,080
>> Madam Dumas, if I can just

801
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,040
ask you speaking to the

802
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040
microphone.

803
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,040
>> I'm sorry. Is it working?

804
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,040
>> Yes.

805
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,040
>> Regarding the forest, the

806
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040
force being the Fairview forest,

807
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,040
but when one is here for the

808
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Fairview forest, we are here for

809
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,040
biodiversity, we are here for to

810
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,040
try to make sure that the lack

811
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040
of this biodiversity does not

812
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,040
become less. My preamble but I

813
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,040
will be asking Mr. Eric Stork

814
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040
and Mr. Brent Cowan a question.

815
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040
I, in 2018, I moved here, there

816
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,040
was the election when I found

817
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,040
out about the forest. I have had

818
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,040
a sign saved the first ever

819
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,040
since but it was only two years

820
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,040
ago, exactly, January 2023, that

821
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,040
I first came to a council

822
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,040
meeting ever in my life and I

823
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000
have since found out that a few

824
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000
other people are not necessarily

825
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,000
long council meeting goers or

826
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,000
speakers. This entity, this

827
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
longer, I am now calling it a

828
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
hospital, the forest is a

829
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
hospital. Recently there has

830
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000
been doctors who have been

831
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
prescribing that people --

832
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000
giving them a prescription to

833
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
visit a forced. It's new in the

834
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
news. I think it was from

835
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Ontario in the last number of

836
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000
weeks. When I first came in 2023

837
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000
to a special council meeting

838
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,000
this was to get Madam Verdon to

839
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000
get to be able to speak to

840
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Cadillac Fairview. Cadillac

841
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,060
Fairview I certainly want to say

842
00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:04,060
is being -- has been a

843
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:07,060
decades-long contributor to our

844
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:08,060
society. The corporation would

845
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:13,060
not be here if not profitable.

846
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:14,060
One, almost never mentions the

847
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:17,060
name Cadillac Fairview and even

848
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,060
less the Ontario teachers

849
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:23,060
pension plan. With that

850
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,060
preamble, I wish to talk a lot

851
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:31,060
more about buying this. I have

852
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:33,060
sent letters a year and a half

853
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:38,060
ago to the OTTP saying let's

854
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,060
negotiate this. You are

855
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:42,060
educators, you are informed

856
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,060
people, why on earth in the 24

857
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:50,060
century something so sustainable

858
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:53,060
for the human species. I have

859
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:55,060
recently come to judge that we

860
00:31:55,060 --> 00:32:00,020
are not in a -- the planet is

861
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,020
not in crisis, the climate is

862
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,020
not in crisis, it's the human

863
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,020
species, the plant species, the

864
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:09,020
animal species. We are in

865
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:12,020
crisis. Of course, most of us

866
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:17,020
know that the abundance of what

867
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,020
mankind, remnants of mankind did

868
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:22,020
for over century has accelerated

869
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:25,020
the situation that we are all in

870
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:28,020
and even those who don't read

871
00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:30,020
about it certainly, if they put

872
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:34,020
on the television or a friend or

873
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,020
someone, an acquaintance, will

874
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,020
say oh my goodness have you

875
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:41,020
heard about the latest disaster?

876
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,020
Disasters will always happen.

877
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:46,020
They always have through the

878
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:50,020
ages but it is over 40 years

879
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:53,020
more well documented, worldwide

880
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:57,020
by collaboration of scientists

881
00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:01,080
who forward their data that

882
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,080
mankind and plants and animals

883
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,080
are in a very, very tenacious

884
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,080
situation. In the October 9th

885
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
1510 west, Mr. Eric Stork, you

886
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080
were quoted and you are asking

887
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080
and I heard maybe in December

888
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080
that you wish to have a formal

889
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,080
evaluation of this forest. With

890
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,080
all the information that is so

891
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
apparent, more than a parent, it

892
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,080
is logical, it is objective.

893
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Those people who are passionate

894
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,080
about this, they bring their

895
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
passion because of the logic and

896
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,080
the objectivity of this

897
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040
existential crisis that we are

898
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,040
faced with. I would like to

899
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040
know, Mr. Stork, why your

900
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040
interest has come about only

901
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,040
three years in to this four-year

902
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040
mandate? Why you have come up

903
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,040
with this now so late and never

904
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040
having spoken about really

905
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040
coming up ideas to keep this

906
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,040
forest alive.

907
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,040
>> I will answer. First, it

908
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,040
sounds like a very politically

909
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040
motivated question.

910
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,040
>> It is not. It is absolutely

911
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,040
not.

912
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,040
>> May I speak?

913
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040
>> Well, yes, first of all, it's

914
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,040
not political.

915
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,040
>> Perfect. My position on the

916
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Fairview force has not changed

917
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,040
since day one. Not since day

918
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,040
one. Anybody who lives in my

919
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040
district, who I've spoken to, my

920
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,040
position has not changed. It

921
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000
came about because at 1.7

922
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
citizens reached out to me.

923
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
She's not in the room today. We

924
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,000
were working an email so I had

925
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
to address it. I came out with

926
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
somewhat of a formal position on

927
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
this and that was my position.

928
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000
My position has not changed from

929
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,000
day one. It is a citizen's

930
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
decision. We have to have the

931
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
facts and we have to make this

932
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
decision together as a city. My

933
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
position has not changed and it

934
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
came out of necessity to finally

935
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
take the elephant out of the

936
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
room in terms of cost,

937
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
environment, impact, all those

938
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
variables have to be put

939
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
together, digested, something

940
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
said in a decision made because

941
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
it was going on for too long and

942
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
I took the courage to come out

943
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
and actually take that position.

944
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,000
>> Am I able to speak?

945
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
>> It's not a debate. Do you

946
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
have a subsequent question for

947
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Council Brent Cowan? Madame

948
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Dumas, you are allowed to

949
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
question.

950
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,060
>> Can I reply? I cannot reply?

951
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:03,060
>> You can simply reply but not

952
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:05,060
address your subsequent question

953
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:07,060
would have to be if you have a

954
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:10,060
follow-up question. You

955
00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:12,060
suggested one to Senator count

956
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:13,060
as well. If you use the

957
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:14,060
subsequent question it could be

958
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,060
to Councillor Stork but you lose

959
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:18,060
the opportunity to question

960
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:19,060
Councillor Cowan.

961
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:21,060
>> It's not a subsequent

962
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,060
question. You are deeming that

963
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:25,060
I'm up here politically. I am

964
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:29,060
not. You wonder if you are still

965
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,060
wondering in the 21st century

966
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,060
where have you been? Do you

967
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,060
read? Do you study? Do you

968
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:35,060
listen?

969
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:37,060
>> Madame Dumas, these are all

970
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:38,060
questions.

971
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:39,060
>> Fine. I find it very, very

972
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:40,060
weak. That is not a question.

973
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:41,060
Extremely weak.

974
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,060
>> You have a subsequent

975
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,060
question?

976
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:48,060
>> Yes. A bit of a preamble. The

977
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:53,060
force needs to be paid for.

978
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:54,060
Perhaps we have to convince

979
00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:59,060
Cadillac Fairview that it is --

980
00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,020
it is in their best interest in

981
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:05,020
their own families interest and

982
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,020
their progeny, et cetera, et

983
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:10,020
cetera and our progeny to save

984
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:13,020
what we have around us

985
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:17,020
especially it's not the golf

986
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:21,020
course and the golf course will

987
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,020
probably or Beaconsfield golf

988
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,020
course will probably come up one

989
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,020
day but it is a much larger

990
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:30,020
green space and it is not

991
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,020
surrounded by a stranglehold of

992
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:37,020
the island in pyramid billet-y.

993
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:42,020
Mr. Cowan, in that October 9th

994
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,020
1510 west, you actually had an

995
00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:48,020
entire letter to the editor. I

996
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:51,020
believe you ended it with «

997
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:54,020
let's sum up the courage and the

998
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:58,020
content of it  » was paying for

999
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:01,080
the forest. 20 million here, 10

1000
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
million there, et cetera, et

1001
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:08,080
cetera. I am wondering why,

1002
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,080
talking about elephants in the

1003
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,080
room, Cadillac Fairview being

1004
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
one, paying for this forest. In

1005
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,080
needs to be paid for, it is

1006
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,080
owned by somebody but there are

1007
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,080
ways of achieving it and

1008
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,080
certainly not dialoguing with

1009
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
the opponent. Cadillac Fairview

1010
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,080
is not the enemy, it is provided

1011
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080
so much to this community over

1012
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,080
so many decades and some people

1013
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,080
call it Mecca I'm wondering why

1014
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,080
instead of only question or

1015
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,080
statements, Mr. Cowan, why don't

1016
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,080
you have some ideas, as I do,

1017
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,080
and I believe Madam Tara

1018
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Stainforth has mentioned to me

1019
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,040
just in passing that she has had

1020
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
ideas. Why is that never

1021
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,040
discussed and could you -- I

1022
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,040
have ideas. What are your ideas

1023
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,040
for raising this money given

1024
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040
that entire hospital complex all

1025
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040
raised by fundraising? I will

1026
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,040
just and, I realize, the forest

1027
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,040
is a hospital. It is already

1028
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,040
built. We do not have to wait

1029
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,040
five or ten years for it. We

1030
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040
just have to pay for it. Thank

1031
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040
you.

1032
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,040
>> Thank you for the question. I

1033
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
think in that same letter that I

1034
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
did actually make a proposition

1035
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,040
and where I could see money come

1036
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,040
from. I said I thought

1037
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Pointe-Claire could afford $10

1038
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040
million. I said I believe there

1039
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,040
was a federal government program

1040
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
to support this kind of

1041
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,040
initiative. I cannot remember if

1042
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040
it was ten or $20 million or

1043
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
something. I figured that the

1044
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Agglo could match that will

1045
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Pointe-Claire was putting in and

1046
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,040
I figured that the province of

1047
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Québec could put in the balance.

1048
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
I wrote that on the letter.

1049
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
There is a concept of where the

1050
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
money could possibly come from.

1051
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000
The challenge would be to try to

1052
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
convince them and those

1053
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
challenges are not in

1054
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,000
significant. That does not mean

1055
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
that they are insurmountable.

1056
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
One of the letter was to

1057
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
actually say two things. One,

1058
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
you have to pay for it. I do not

1059
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
see any alternative to preserve

1060
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
the land in the entirety and

1061
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
number two, I came up with what

1062
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
I could see is a way to fairly

1063
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
share the cost and then we could

1064
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
-- the city could possibly

1065
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000
organize, the mayor could

1066
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
possibly organize then to

1067
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000
approach these levels of

1068
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
government and build up the

1069
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
support. As far as I know. We

1070
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
have done very little, the city

1071
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
has done very little. That is

1072
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
the Mayor's responsibility to

1073
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
follow up on that and what I

1074
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
know that we have done is we

1075
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
sent a letter to Valérie Plante.

1076
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,060
I do not think she responded to

1077
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,060
it. I know that there was a

1078
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:06,060
meeting with the metropolitan

1079
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:07,060
community of Montréal and they

1080
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:08,060
were very not warm to the idea

1081
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:10,060
of doing anything with the

1082
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:14,060
force. These are the challenges.

1083
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,060
I acknowledge them.

1084
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:18,060
>> If we start the process, we

1085
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,060
can get there. Thank you.

1086
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:25,060
>> Just to clarify, I did speak

1087
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:30,060
to the CMM and the response was

1088
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:32,060
negative. CMM is the

1089
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:33,060
organization in the Montréal

1090
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:34,060
administration that is

1091
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:35,060
responsible for the acquisition.

1092
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,060
The question was asked to the

1093
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,060
right authorities and was

1094
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,060
actually done.

1095
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:42,060
>> When was that done?

1096
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:45,060
>> Two years ago. A year and a

1097
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,060
half, two years ago.

1098
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:47,060
>> I understand they have spent

1099
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,060
--

1100
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,060
>> One of the first things I did

1101
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,060
it was probably six months in,

1102
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,060
nine months in. Some around

1103
00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:54,060
there that we got an answer. I

1104
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:57,060
was quite disappointed. I remain

1105
00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:59,060
quite disappointed with the

1106
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:00,020
administration and it has some

1107
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:03,020
bearing on how I perceive them

1108
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:06,020
because they have uttered a

1109
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:08,020
program that I felt they did not

1110
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:10,020
substantiate in that response.

1111
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:11,020
That is my feeling on that. I

1112
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:12,020
was not pleased with that

1113
00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:13,020
decision.

1114
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:17,020
>> I think they have run very

1115
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:19,020
low saving Hypertec and

1116
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:20,020
extremely other important and we

1117
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:22,020
are just as important because we

1118
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:25,020
are all part of that

1119
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,020
biodiversity.

1120
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:27,020
>> To speak to the elephant in

1121
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:29,020
the room, it's hard to put a

1122
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,020
price on survival. For me, we

1123
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:33,020
have spent more than 10 million

1124
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:37,020
on the Olive-Urquhart Sports

1125
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,020
facility. We have spent $21 on

1126
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:40,020
our public works. All of which I

1127
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:43,020
agree with. 10 million seems to

1128
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:46,020
be a pittance for our survival.

1129
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,020
I'm just putting in the grand

1130
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:49,020
scheme of things. That is the

1131
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:54,020
Mayor's interpretation of it.

1132
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:59,020
Ralph?

1133
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,080
Would you like to speak to some

1134
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
of the questions?

1135
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,080
>> I just wanted to say that the

1136
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080
elephant is not in the room,

1137
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,080
it's in the parking. It's a very

1138
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,080
big elephant -- come closer.

1139
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,080
It's in court. You can do any

1140
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
kind of gestures.

1141
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,080
>> We are not going to have an

1142
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080
exchange from the audience. We

1143
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,080
do not have exchanges from the

1144
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080
audience.

1145
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,080
>> It's in court. Yesterday it

1146
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
was going to the court of

1147
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Québec. It has been delayed

1148
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,080
again. We are in this situation,

1149
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,080
both sides of this conundrum, I

1150
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,080
will say it in French Les deux

1151
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
côtés sont à la merci de la

1152
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Cour. Vous avez choisi de donner

1153
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,040
la décision à un autre parti.

1154
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Alors, on peut spéculer. Mais

1155
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,040
c'est un jeu, un troisième parti

1156
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,040
qui va décider, regrettablement.

1157
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Vous pouvez faire tous les

1158
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040
signes de noms que vous voulez,

1159
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
c'est ça. Merci.

1160
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040
>> Just as a preface, Mr. Claude

1161
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Cousineau, I think you have a

1162
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,040
look at Bill 39 and what St.

1163
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Bruno did, you will see there is

1164
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,040
actually very easy way out of

1165
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,040
that. It's not easy, it still

1166
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040
takes time, of course but there

1167
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,040
is a method out of that and you

1168
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,040
have forgotten to consider that.

1169
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Good evening.

1170
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,040
>> Please, and light me.

1171
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,040
>> It's been in the press. I am

1172
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,040
sure the city officials can tell

1173
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,040
you about Bill 39 allows you to,

1174
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
regardless of previous ownership

1175
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000
or other cases, legal cases

1176
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
allows you to circumvent that

1177
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
and rate new bylaws for

1178
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
ecologically sensitive areas.

1179
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
>> Again, last comment on this,

1180
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000
a judge is going to tell us what

1181
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,000
to do.

1182
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,000
>> The judge already has. Good

1183
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000
evening, folks, tonight I want

1184
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,000
to ask you again about Fairview

1185
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
forest but I want to focus on

1186
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,000
the new PMAD. The revised one of

1187
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
the CMM. I'm curious to see what

1188
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
the City appreciates the greater

1189
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,000
obligation under the new PMAD

1190
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
and considering its usage in

1191
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,000
obligations under it. The

1192
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
organization I am a member of,

1193
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,000
say Fairview forest, and also

1194
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Cadillac Fairview, both made

1195
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
submissions to the CMM and

1196
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
participated in its recent

1197
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
consultation on the PMAD

1198
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,060
revised. I want to first say I

1199
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:05,060
am very, very thankful to the

1200
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:07,060
Pointe-Claire City Councillors

1201
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:11,060
who wrote favourable comments on

1202
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:13,060
the CMM website advocating

1203
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:16,060
saving Fairview forest and

1204
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:17,060
supporting our submission. Was

1205
00:46:17,060 --> 00:46:19,060
profoundly appreciated. I want

1206
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:22,060
to address the revised PMAD and

1207
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:25,060
it's greater assertion of that

1208
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:27,060
bylaw. The agglomerations, the

1209
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:31,060
regions and the municipalities

1210
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:35,060
must, must and here to the PMAD.

1211
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:38,060
And implemented faithfully. It

1212
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:41,060
is not a fuzzy guideline anymore

1213
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:43,060
but it's an explicit requirement

1214
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:46,060
of Pointe-Claire just like every

1215
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:50,060
other member of the CMM. The

1216
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:54,060
guidelines, objectives and

1217
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:58,060
criteria of the PMAD revised are

1218
00:46:58,060 --> 00:47:01,020
inscribed as being required by

1219
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:03,020
law in the perspective of

1220
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:06,020
sustainable development and also

1221
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:07,020
aim, overall, to contribute to

1222
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:09,020
the fight against an adaptation

1223
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:11,020
of climate change and the

1224
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:13,020
protection of biodiversity. All

1225
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,020
things, of course, that Fairview

1226
00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:20,020
forest does. I want to quote the

1227
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:24,020
PMAD revised exactly. Sorry,

1228
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:26,020
it's not exactly because I did a

1229
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:29,020
Google translation.

1230
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:30,020
[Laughter]

1231
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:32,020
A quote, « the compliance

1232
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:37,020
process provided for by the and

1233
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:40,020
shows that metropolitan planning

1234
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:41,020
is implemented in regional

1235
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:45,020
planning tools and a local

1236
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:47,020
example municipal planning

1237
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:52,020
tools. The SAD's or the RCM's

1238
00:47:56,020 --> 00:48:01,080
must comply with the PMAD. They

1239
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080
provide this metropolitan plan

1240
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,080
must be reviewed periodically

1241
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
». And I quote. The PMAD goes

1242
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
on to say, in terms of the

1243
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
environment, the revised PMAD

1244
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
retains the choices of the first

1245
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,080
PMAD and reinforces them

1246
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,080
particularly with regard to the

1247
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,080
number one issue that it's in

1248
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,080
particularly in regard to his

1249
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080
number one, increasing the

1250
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080
target for the protection and

1251
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,080
conservation of woods of

1252
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,080
metropolitan interest. Forest,

1253
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,080
corridors and natural

1254
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,080
environments to 30% of the

1255
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,080
metropolitan territory by 2046

1256
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,080
in line with the commitments

1257
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
made that the 15th Congress of

1258
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,080
the party, example, COP15. It

1259
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,080
has been explicitly covered all

1260
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,080
the criteria Fairview forest

1261
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
meets. I know that of course

1262
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Fairview forest issues are under

1263
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,040
study. I am thankful for that.

1264
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,040
That is great. However, this

1265
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,040
PMAD now is very clear. It

1266
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,040
demands compliance. And now

1267
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,040
supersedes many of the concerns

1268
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,040
and details that we get muddled

1269
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,040
up in and struggle with. My

1270
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040
question for Pointe-Claire City

1271
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,040
Council is very simply, will the

1272
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,040
city comply with its obligations

1273
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
and then the newly revised PMAD?

1274
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
We'll use the tools in

1275
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040
advantages given by the

1276
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,040
government of Québec, la 39, and

1277
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
the CMM with its freeze on

1278
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Fairview for specifically and

1279
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,040
the revised PMAD and save the

1280
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Fairview forest because it's

1281
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:50,040
actually obliged to? That's it.

1282
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,040
>> My answer is, I hope so. I

1283
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,040
certainly -- I certainly would

1284
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,040
like to. Yes?

1285
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
>> By the way, your analysis is

1286
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
very good. It's basically what

1287
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
the challenges are. If you look

1288
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,000
at the PMAD I think it's trying

1289
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
to blow and stop at the same

1290
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
time. If you look at the tree

1291
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
canopy, the 30%, listen I'm

1292
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
offer tree canopy all across

1293
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000
Montréal. You talk about

1294
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000
different areas that can be

1295
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000
affected but I've actually sent

1296
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,000
an email and I still have not

1297
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
gotten a reply to what that 30%

1298
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
is because based upon what they

1299
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
want to do in terms of

1300
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
densification, in terms of

1301
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
housing and put that 30% on top

1302
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,000
of it, mathematically, when I

1303
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
look at it, how it can be

1304
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,000
achieved it's counter intuitive.

1305
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
It knocks its own head together.

1306
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
I ask a question, what is the

1307
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
30% mean? I have not got an

1308
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
answer yet. If you digging

1309
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
deeper, you will see certain

1310
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,000
elements or it says they do not

1311
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000
know where it's deemed as

1312
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
private, public. Could be

1313
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
parking lots and shopping

1314
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000
centres. It could be a backyard.

1315
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,060
They have not given a pure

1316
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:02,060
definition of what that 30% is.

1317
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:03,060
That is what I'm really trying

1318
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:05,060
to find out because yes, we

1319
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:07,060
should comply and we can to

1320
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:09,060
comply but it's going to be --

1321
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:10,060
first of all they have to give

1322
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:11,060
that definition. It's going to

1323
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:13,060
be one of a challenge to balance

1324
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:17,060
that I think the PMAD revised,

1325
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:18,060
if you try to get everything

1326
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:19,060
done on their, something is

1327
00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:22,060
going to fall through the

1328
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:23,060
cracks. I really do not

1329
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:27,060
appreciate them doing that.

1330
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:28,060
That's a law, they are not going

1331
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:29,060
fuzzy on that. There is no base

1332
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:30,060
in terms, of all, you can maybe

1333
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:34,060
do this, maybe do that.

1334
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,060
Densification the parking lot at

1335
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,060
Cadillac Fairview was a minimum

1336
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:39,060
of 60. Now they are going to

1337
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:41,060
blow in and come in and say it's

1338
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:43,060
going to be -- it has to be at

1339
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:45,060
least what? 20 to 50. They are

1340
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:47,060
putting the hard line in the

1341
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:48,060
sand now and I think what

1342
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:50,060
they're asking us to do, without

1343
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:51,060
giving us a proper definitions

1344
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:53,060
to give it a feasibility

1345
00:51:53,060 --> 00:51:54,060
opportunity to see if it's

1346
00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:57,060
actually feasible is unfair.

1347
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,060
It's unfair.

1348
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:02,020
>> They do mention other aspects

1349
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:04,020
besides canopy such as

1350
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:05,020
biodiversity, Browns, expats,

1351
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:07,020
all the different species, the

1352
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:09,020
35 endangered species that are

1353
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:12,020
in Fairview forest. There are

1354
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:13,020
also criteria's beyond canopy.

1355
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:14,020
The canopy is one reference but

1356
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:16,020
they specifically refer to

1357
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:19,020
biodiversity and other issues as

1358
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,020
well.

1359
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:22,020
>> Thanks.

1360
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,020
>> If I could just give my own

1361
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:29,020
take on the 30% number. We are

1362
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:31,020
below 30% in Pointe-Claire so

1363
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:33,020
what that effectively tells me

1364
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:35,020
is we cannot build on green. We

1365
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:36,020
can build somewhere else but we

1366
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:38,020
cannot build on green. That is

1367
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:41,020
my take.

1368
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:43,020
>> The PMAD explicitly denied

1369
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:44,020
that especially for the areas

1370
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:47,020
that they froze. There are other

1371
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:49,020
legislations like 39 and other

1372
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:50,020
things that they have put in

1373
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:51,020
place for the city to take

1374
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:54,020
advantage of.

1375
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:57,020
>> Point taken. Point taken.

1376
00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:59,020
Very well taken. Thank you very

1377
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:01,080
much. Councillor Tremblay?

1378
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,080
>> Thank you for your question.

1379
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
I think the important thing

1380
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,080
behind this issue is we do not

1381
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:11,080
want to get lost in quibbling

1382
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,080
overinterpretation and confusion

1383
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
over whether or not a and B

1384
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080
means B. The ultimate problem

1385
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,080
that we have today is we are

1386
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
witnessing again another

1387
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,080
disaster in California is these

1388
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
kinds of issues are pervasive

1389
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,080
now throughout the world. I

1390
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
think the important thing we

1391
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,080
need to do, regardless of

1392
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
whether 30% or not, the

1393
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,080
important thing for this council

1394
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
to do is to be thinking of the

1395
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
future and its citizens, its

1396
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,080
health and safety. Ultimately,

1397
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,080
we need to be working towards,

1398
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,080
as I have said many, many times

1399
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,080
with the intention of aiming to

1400
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,080
solve this problem rather than

1401
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
whether we are complying or not

1402
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,080
an outing confusion to the whole

1403
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,080
picture. I think if these

1404
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,080
constructs the issue at hand and

1405
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,080
I think it's important to

1406
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080
underline the fact that what we

1407
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,040
need today is a mental and

1408
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,040
economic, social paradigm shift

1409
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,040
in these areas. In order to be

1410
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,040
able to obtain those things, we

1411
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040
need to start getting creative

1412
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
in every level. Political,

1413
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,040
business and social as well. I

1414
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,040
appreciate the question. I would

1415
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,040
not want to get to lost in those

1416
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,040
technicalities in that they are

1417
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
important in that they are not

1418
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,040
negligible aspects and what we

1419
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,040
are going through. The rule of

1420
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,040
law and all the qualifications

1421
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
that behind that is obviously

1422
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,040
important. Nothing's proceeds

1423
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,040
natural law. Until we learn to

1424
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
be able to work within those

1425
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,040
constraints, we are going to

1426
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,040
contingency difficulties that we

1427
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
have in the world today. Thanks.

1428
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,040
>> Thank you for the replies.

1429
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040
>> Susan Weaver?

1430
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
>> It's about Council meetings.

1431
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
I'm not going to ask you again

1432
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,000
about cost and current City

1433
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
lease car so I will submit seven

1434
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
pages with that. I was

1435
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,000
concerning last November's -- I

1436
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
will go like that -- concerning

1437
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
last November's council meeting,

1438
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,000
I was curious as to why you made

1439
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,000
up a story during that meeting.

1440
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
It was a sort of a cocking-able

1441
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
story. It had said nothing it

1442
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
would've been the end of it.

1443
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Actions and words are important.

1444
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Your storyline was different

1445
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
from the insurance report. I

1446
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
decided to look at your Facebook

1447
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,000
page to check out digs. April

1448
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000
6th, you are on a cocktail and

1449
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,000
dinner gala in the evening. Then

1450
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:54,000
you went up north but after that

1451
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,000
the accident reported only next

1452
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,060
day. That is it. I am just going

1453
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:04,060
to hand in my seven page.

1454
00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:07,060
>> Okay. I do not know what was

1455
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:11,060
met by caulk in bull. Miss

1456
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:12,060
Weaver, we do not yammer from

1457
00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:14,060
the audience, we speak politely

1458
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:18,060
from the microphone. The

1459
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:21,060
accident happened with a car was

1460
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:24,060
recorded by the police and

1461
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,060
documented. I will go with

1462
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:27,060
whatever written documentation

1463
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:28,060
they submitted because that

1464
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:30,060
obviously is the truth. I never

1465
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:32,060
said anything other than the

1466
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:34,060
date I was -- it was a morning

1467
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:36,060
and I drove, I hit a deer, the

1468
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:38,060
police recorded the accident and

1469
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:41,060
that was the end of it. There is

1470
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,060
no conflict and there is no

1471
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:44,060
problem at all. It was in the

1472
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:46,060
morning on my way up to my

1473
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,060
mother in the hospital in the

1474
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:51,060
morning. Thank you, Miss Weaver.

1475
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:06,020
- Bonjour, Conseil. L'année

1476
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:09,020
passée, je me suis présenté à la

1477
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:12,020
consultation publique pour

1478
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020
l'agglomération de Montréal.

1479
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:16,020
J'ai présenté quelque chose

1480
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:18,020
concernant les milieux vides. Et

1481
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:19,020
pour le village de

1482
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:21,020
Pointe-Claire. Après, ça on m'a

1483
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:24,020
invité pour représenter...

1484
00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:26,020
- Parler un peu plus fort.

1485
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:29,020
- Vous m'entendez mieux?

1486
00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:33,020
- Merci.

1487
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:35,020
- Après ça, ils m'ont invité à

1488
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,020
venir me présenter aux CMM pour

1489
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:38,020
la consultation publique au mois

1490
00:57:38,020 --> 00:57:41,020
de décembre. J'ai présenté deux

1491
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:45,020
mémoire, un pour la forêt

1492
00:57:45,020 --> 00:57:47,020
Fairview et pour les lieux

1493
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:48,020
humides, et un pour le village

1494
00:57:48,020 --> 00:57:51,020
de Pointe-Claire, pour le

1495
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:52,020
patrimoine, qui n'est pas

1496
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:55,020
reconnu dans le C.A. Même à

1497
00:57:55,020 --> 00:58:00,080
Montréal. J'ai répondu à madame

1498
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Stainforth, elle avait commenté

1499
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,080
sur les mémoires. Madame

1500
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Saint-force, je vous remercie

1501
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:13,080
pour ça.

1502
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,080
In the 1970s which was from two

1503
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,080
high schools, Saint-Jean, Thomas

1504
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,080
the city of Pointe-Claire to buy

1505
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,080
the great park that if a

1506
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
terracotta. Today, our planet is

1507
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
facing a bigger challenge,

1508
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,080
climate change. The effect are

1509
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,080
present all over the world in

1510
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,080
and around us and catastrophic

1511
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,080
events are present everywhere.

1512
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,080
We, as a society, we cannot be

1513
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,080
like ostriches and put our head

1514
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,080
in the sand. We must stand up

1515
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,080
against the society who wants to

1516
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
destroy ecological system and go

1517
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,080
against the climate change for

1518
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,040
profit only and make pressure

1519
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
with a lobbyist to different

1520
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,040
environment for their district.

1521
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Like you mentioned in your

1522
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,040
comment, I quote, you force are

1523
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,040
the official role in mitigation

1524
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,040
and air pollution and producing

1525
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,040
oxygen. While the canopy cover

1526
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
helped regulate urban

1527
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,040
temperature by reducing the

1528
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,040
effect. The natural space are in

1529
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,040
disposable -- responsible for

1530
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,040
foreseeing and creating the

1531
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,040
city. And comment. The

1532
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,040
protection of the forest is

1533
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,040
supporting ecological balance

1534
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,040
and the use as a sanctuary for

1535
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,040
[Inaudible]

1536
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040
Diversified species that may

1537
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,040
otherwise be displacement by

1538
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,040
urbanizing like the brown snake

1539
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,040
when the REM station erected on

1540
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,000
the southeast section of the

1541
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,000
force. We are asking to please

1542
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,000
support to save the Fairview

1543
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,000
forest like we did in 1970 with

1544
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,000
the City to protect the forest

1545
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,000
and for the one who cannot talk

1546
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000
and for our children and future

1547
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,000
generation. My question is

1548
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,000
Est-ce que le Conseil des

1549
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,000
membres du conseil vont

1550
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,000
supporter la protection de la

1551
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
forêt Fairview comme leurs

1552
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,000
confrères ont fait dans les

1553
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,000
années 1970? Pour leur

1554
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,000
protection? In person Une

1555
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,000
réponse de tout le monde.

1556
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
- C'est à tout le monde, merci,

1557
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,000
Monsieur Lapointe. Pour

1558
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,000
moi-même, je trouve que la

1559
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,000
meilleure solution pour débuter

1560
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,000
et de faire des consultations.

1561
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,000
To speak to the people which we

1562
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,000
were supposed to do regarding

1563
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,000
the future the forest and what

1564
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,000
they thought and listen to their

1565
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,000
ideas and that would be a good

1566
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000
way to get the ball rolling. As

1567
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,000
a Council, that would be a good

1568
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,000
way for us to show our

1569
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,060
willingness and to get the ball

1570
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:01,060
rolling in these regards. That

1571
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:03,060
is my answer to your question,

1572
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:07,060
sir. Hopefully it's a sufficient

1573
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:08,060
one.

1574
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:09,060
- La Ville de Pointe-Claire a

1575
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:12,060
fait le plan stratégique de 2023

1576
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:15,060
à 2030. Les réponses, les

1577
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:17,060
sondages des citoyens.

1578
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:18,060
Protection et restauration de la

1579
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:20,060
nature des environnements

1580
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:24,060
naturels. 23% ont répondu pour

1581
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:26,060
ça. Habitation, 14%.

1582
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:28,060
Infrastructures et mobilité

1583
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:32,060
active, 13%. La réponse des

1584
01:01:33,060 --> 01:01:36,060
employés, les personnes... 18%

1585
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:39,060
ont répondu augmenter le

1586
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,060
verdissement dans les zones

1587
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:43,060
urbaines. Adopter une politique

1588
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,060
environnementale audacieuse.

1589
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:50,060
Appuyé des mesures d'efficacité

1590
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:51,060
(---)

1591
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:53,060
dans les bâtiments. Alors ça,

1592
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:56,060
c'est déjà défait, les

1593
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:57,060
questionnaires qui ont été

1594
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:00,020
faites par la Ville. Et on voit

1595
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:04,020
que les gens veulent la

1596
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,020
protection, la protection des

1597
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:10,020
changements climatiques. Est-ce

1598
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:12,020
que quelqu'un d'autre veut

1599
01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:13,020
répondre?

1600
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:15,020
- Moi, je veux bien.

1601
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:18,020
- Allez-y.

1602
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:21,020
- Pour répondre à votre

1603
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:23,020
question, c'est sûr que la Ville

1604
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:27,020
va suivre la loi. Quoiqu'en dise

1605
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:32,020
monsieur Stokes avec, c'est vrai

1606
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:36,020
que c'est clair ici, il y a un

1607
01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:38,020
juge qui a un ou plusieurs juges

1608
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:41,020
qui a décidé c'est quoi les

1609
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,020
responsabilités des villes, la

1610
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:44,020
possibilité d'exproprier ou quoi

1611
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:49,020
que ce soit. Là, à savoir en si

1612
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:52,020
l'interprétation de Fairview est

1613
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:56,020
correcte ou interprétation de

1614
01:02:57,020 --> 01:02:59,020
Fairview Forrest est correcte.

1615
01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:04,080
On va suivre les règles. Merci.

1616
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,080
- C'est les citoyens qui

1617
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
décident, c'est pas un... ils

1618
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,080
ont un vote comme nous autres.

1619
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,080
On a chacun un vote, comme une

1620
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,080
élection.

1621
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,080
- Je parle pas d'un vote. Je

1622
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,080
parle du juge de la Cour

1623
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,080
supérieure qui va décider

1624
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,080
d'interpréter qui a raison.

1625
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,080
- Mais il a déjà jugé...

1626
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,080
- Merci. There has already been

1627
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,080
a judgment on Bill 39? Hasn't

1628
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,080
there? It's already been

1629
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,080
president and it was favourable

1630
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080
to the protection. There has

1631
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,080
already been -- I do not know

1632
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,080
how many cases -- at least one.

1633
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Has there not?

1634
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,080
>> They were supposed to go be

1635
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:49,080
in court yesterday. It was

1636
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,080
delayed. I don't know who

1637
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,080
demanded but it was accepted by

1638
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,080
the judge to put it back. We

1639
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:02,040
will find a date soon. Who made

1640
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,040
the request, maybe it's

1641
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,040
Fairview, maybe it's the CMM. I

1642
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,040
do not know.

1643
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,040
>> It was Cadillac Fairview.

1644
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,040
There was an appeal, I am

1645
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,040
presuming, and there has been a

1646
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,040
judgment and there has been an

1647
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:20,040
appeal from what I understand.

1648
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Was there not a judgment? And

1649
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,040
St. Bruno. Absolutely. There is

1650
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,040
precedent already. I know, that

1651
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,040
is my interpretation.

1652
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,040
>> I will actually write

1653
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,040
something. I think there is one

1654
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:37,040
little thing. The definition of

1655
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,040
a high ecological value and that

1656
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,040
is a definition that has to be

1657
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,040
determined. It was determined

1658
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
St. Bruno, but it has not been

1659
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,040
determined in St. Bruno -- St.

1660
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,040
play where. That's exactly what

1661
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,040
we have to, to investigate, to

1662
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
get our facts and then we can

1663
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,040
move forward. That is the crux

1664
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,040
of the argument. It has to be

1665
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040
deemed environment of high

1666
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,040
ecological value. I think your

1667
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,000
legal department would support

1668
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,000
me on that.

1669
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
- Vous n'avez pas répondu à ma

1670
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,000
question.

1671
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,000
- Une autre question?

1672
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
- Ma question: est-ce qu'il va

1673
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
supporter de sauver la forêt

1674
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,000
Fairview?

1675
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
- Je vais supporter la décision

1676
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
du juge.

1677
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,000
- Mais je pense que monsieur

1678
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Lapointe demandait à nous de

1679
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,000
répondre, pas le juge.

1680
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
- Monsieur Lapointe, bien, il y

1681
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,000
a quelques minutes, je m'exprime

1682
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,000
sur le sujet. Donc, vous

1683
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,000
comprenez un peu ma position

1684
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,000
là-dessus.

1685
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000
- Je crois que vous connaissez

1686
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,000
ma position aussi. Depuis cinq

1687
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,000
ou 6 ans, j'ai toujours

1688
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,000
supporté... j'est toujours

1689
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,000
supporté qu'on conserve cette

1690
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,000
forêt-là. C'est plus une

1691
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000
question de trouver comment le

1692
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,000
faire avec les sous, au lieu de:

1693
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,000
est-ce qu'on devrait le faire?

1694
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,060
>> My answer, Mr. Lapointe, is I

1695
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:03,060
would like to hear from people

1696
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:06,060
as much as anything because I

1697
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:07,060
believe they deserve to speak on

1698
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:10,060
this and I think there is an

1699
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:13,060
immense amount of talent in our

1700
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:14,060
population that is knowledgeable

1701
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:17,060
and that can bring enhanced

1702
01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,060
ideas and enhance our decisions

1703
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:22,060
and make a stink better and

1704
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,060
perform at a higher level. I

1705
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:25,060
think we owe to the population

1706
01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:26,060
to allow that to happen which is

1707
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:29,060
why I would like us to have a

1708
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:30,060
consultation with the

1709
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:31,060
participation process to hear

1710
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:33,060
from the people on this matter.

1711
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:36,060
That is my answer.

1712
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:38,060
- Est-ce qu'il y a d'autres

1713
01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:42,060
réponses?

1714
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:44,060
>> I think I made my position

1715
01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:46,060
pretty clear.

1716
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:48,060
- Monsieur Bissonnette? >> I

1717
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:50,060
have written my position, many,

1718
01:06:50,060 --> 01:06:53,060
many times in many different

1719
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:54,060
forms and many different

1720
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:59,060
locations, rather.

1721
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:02,020
- Merci.

1722
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:03,020
- Je pense que c'est tout.

1723
01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:08,020
Merci, Monsieur Lapointe.

1724
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:17,020
>> Good evening. I have not been

1725
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:19,020
able to come to every council

1726
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:22,020
meeting and so maybe some things

1727
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,020
have passed me by when I

1728
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
could've been here listening

1729
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:30,020
more intently but I have been

1730
01:07:30,020 --> 01:07:33,020
passionate about the environment

1731
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:35,020
and saving the environment for

1732
01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:38,020
as long as I can remember. Even

1733
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:40,020
though my memory is getting

1734
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020
shorter, it goes back a long

1735
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:45,020
way. It is partly why I chose to

1736
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:47,020
come to live in Pointe-Claire,

1737
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:49,020
to stay in Pointe-Claire, even

1738
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,020
after my family all moved away

1739
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:53,020
was because of the protection of

1740
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:57,020
green spaces, the nature and why

1741
01:07:57,020 --> 01:08:00,080
I chose to move to a town house

1742
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,080
where I get terracotta in my

1743
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,080
backyard, which is a very, very

1744
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,080
special gift. I am certainly one

1745
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,080
of the people who is passionate

1746
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,080
about saving Fairview forest,

1747
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:16,080
you know that already and I have

1748
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,080
participated in most of the --

1749
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
fourth of the five public

1750
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,080
consultation sessions that the

1751
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,080
city organized through a

1752
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,080
consulting firm and somebody

1753
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,080
along the way decided that we

1754
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,080
could not speak about Fairview

1755
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,080
forest during those public

1756
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,080
consultation sessions, even ones

1757
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,080
that were about private green

1758
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,080
space, for heaven's sake.

1759
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,080
Anyway, we did. We did anyway.

1760
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,080
The hundred or so people that

1761
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,080
were in the room talks about

1762
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,080
saving Fairview forest in spite

1763
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,080
of what we were told what we

1764
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,080
could not say. While it was not

1765
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,080
going to be recorded, it was

1766
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,080
certainly loudly heard. Frankly,

1767
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,040
I do not think we need another

1768
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,040
consultation. I think the

1769
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,040
dedication of people for the

1770
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,040
last, what, three years, four

1771
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,040
years of standing outside on a

1772
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,040
Saturday and whatever the

1773
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,040
weather, every single Saturday.

1774
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,040
I am not one of the most devoted

1775
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
ones, but I admire those who

1776
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,040
are. That says a lot. The people

1777
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,040
who honk their horns and give us

1778
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,040
a thumbs up. The people that

1779
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,040
have signed petitions. I think

1780
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,040
we have heard from Pointe-Claire

1781
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,040
people. The green spaces are

1782
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,040
special and important to us and

1783
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,040
we need to save it. I was quite

1784
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,040
surprised when I learned tonight

1785
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,040
that one of the points on the

1786
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,040
agenda, point number just a

1787
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:54,040
minute, let me get it here, 11.1

1788
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,040
approved of sale to be entered

1789
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,000
into with the five regarding

1790
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,000
lots of the catastrophe Québec.

1791
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,000
De la Faune et des parcs.

1792
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,000
It was pointed out to me that

1793
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:19,000
that specific area is the green

1794
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
space between the canoe and

1795
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,000
kayak in club and the -- which

1796
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
I've actually traverse not long

1797
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,000
ago when I have to park at the

1798
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,000
canoe club to get into an event.

1799
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000
I know it's a lovely part. I

1800
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000
know it's waterfront. It is

1801
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,000
green space. I have questions

1802
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
and I will put them into one.

1803
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
First of all, I'd like to know

1804
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,000
what this is about. It is coming

1805
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,000
up as approving a deed of sales

1806
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,000
so I'd like to know what is

1807
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,060
this, why is this, who is this,

1808
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:03,060
what does this mean, how did

1809
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:07,060
this come about? I just missed

1810
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:10,060
December. I do not remember this

1811
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:12,060
being mentioned in November

1812
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,060
December, whenever I was here,

1813
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:14,060
how did this come about without

1814
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:15,060
citizens knowing and what is

1815
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:18,060
this about? I would like that

1816
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:19,060
answer.

1817
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:22,060
>> From what I know on the

1818
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:26,060
matter, it's an administrative

1819
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:29,060
exchange. I think it has been

1820
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:30,060
given to the City of

1821
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:31,060
Pointe-Claire. We are taking

1822
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:33,060
over our own land from the

1823
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:34,060
provincial --'s at the

1824
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,060
provincial government or the

1825
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:38,060
federal? Provincial. It is an

1826
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:39,060
administrative manoeuvre nothing

1827
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:41,060
really has changed except we are

1828
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,060
now more responsible for its

1829
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:45,060
management. That's what I

1830
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:46,060
understand. Does anybody want to

1831
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:48,060
elaborate on that?

1832
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:50,060
>> Basically part of the part

1833
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:54,060
was still owned by the

1834
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,060
environment ministry, it just

1835
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:57,060
transferred to the city but we

1836
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:59,060
recognize at the same time that

1837
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:02,020
they use it for more than 50

1838
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:03,020
years.

1839
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:05,020
>> Okay. It would've been clear

1840
01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:08,020
if it said it was indeed a

1841
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:10,020
purchase. It means we are

1842
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:12,020
getting it, is that what you are

1843
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:13,020
meeting? They are selling, we

1844
01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:15,020
are buying, it is going to be

1845
01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:17,020
Pointe-Claire and it will come

1846
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:21,020
under our environment rules and

1847
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:22,020
caring for keeping our

1848
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:23,020
environment? Is that correct?

1849
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:25,020
>> It will still be a park. It's

1850
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:27,020
the same thing. It's a transfer

1851
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:30,020
between us and the Environment

1852
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:31,020
minister.

1853
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:33,020
>> What I understand, the rules

1854
01:12:33,020 --> 01:12:35,020
of waterfront still or other

1855
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:37,020
levels of government. The water

1856
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:41,020
is overlooked by other levels of

1857
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:42,020
government.

1858
01:12:42,020 --> 01:12:43,020
>> I know, usually, the border

1859
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:45,020
is also to be naturally

1860
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:46,020
protected so we do not have the

1861
01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:48,020
erosion in that kind of thing.

1862
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:49,020
>> You got it.

1863
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:51,020
>> That makes it a little clear

1864
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:52,020
Simpson on the environment

1865
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,020
committee to not, I thought I

1866
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,020
should've known something about

1867
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,020
this because the way I read it,

1868
01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:00,080
it sounded like it could've been

1869
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,080
us getting rid of the land and

1870
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,080
I'm glad to hear we have not.

1871
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,080
Thank you.

1872
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,080
- Geneviève Lussier?

1873
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,080
- Bonjour, tout le monde. Thank

1874
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,080
you everybody. I was about to

1875
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,080
ask about 11.1. Mr. Stork

1876
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,080
answered outside and that's good

1877
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,080
and it's good to get

1878
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,080
clarification about that point.

1879
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,080
I also want to ask about a

1880
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,080
follow-up about Mr. Stork had

1881
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,080
said about the PMAD provision.

1882
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,080
Right now, Fairview forest

1883
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,080
appears into the if it gets

1884
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,080
passed in the spring, was there

1885
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,080
planning to do, Je ne sais pas

1886
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,080
si c'est madame Verdun ou

1887
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,080
monsieur Thomas qui peut me

1888
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
répondre, mais c'est quoi le

1889
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,080
processus légal? What is a legal

1890
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,080
process going forward at the

1891
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,080
municipal level? If the City is

1892
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,040
to comply to that one is a legal

1893
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,040
process going forward after that

1894
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040
gets passed in the spring? I

1895
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,040
guess, what is a timeline for

1896
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,040
that?

1897
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
>> Very good question. Madame

1898
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Verdon, avez-vous une réponse?

1899
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,040
Madame Verdon?

1900
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,040
>> Can I answer in French? -

1901
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,040
Oui, pas de problème.

1902
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040
- Dans le fond, le processus,

1903
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,040
présentement, on ne se conforme

1904
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,040
pas. On se conforme au schéma

1905
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,040
d'aménagement de l'agglomération

1906
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,040
de Montréal. Donc, le chez

1907
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,040
madame May d'agglomération de

1908
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,040
Montréal doit se conformer au

1909
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,040
pénal qui doit se conformer aux

1910
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,040
(---)

1911
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
environnementales. Nous, on doit

1912
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,040
attendre que le schéma de la

1913
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,040
main l'agglomération soit

1914
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,040
changée pour conformer aux PMAD

1915
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,040
et ensuite la ville doit faire

1916
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,040
ses règlements de conformité au

1917
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,040
schéma.

1918
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,040
- O.K., Le schéma d'aménagement

1919
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,040
récemment a été changé par

1920
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,040
rapport à la forêt Fairview et

1921
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,040
aussi. Ils ont fait un

1922
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,040
changement qui est un projet de

1923
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,040
règlement, je pense. Mais c'est

1924
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,040
à 50% de la forêt au moins.

1925
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,040
C'est le milieu humide est plus

1926
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,000
une bordure de bottés de 30

1927
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,000
mètres. Ça va faire partie de ça

1928
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,000
aussi?

1929
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,000
- Oui, ça va être ça. Dans le

1930
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,000
fond, le schéma qui a été changé

1931
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
et avec les plans de milieux

1932
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
humides, ils ont des plans... je

1933
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,000
sais de raccourcir les

1934
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,000
raccourcis. Dans les milieux

1935
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,000
humides. Ils doivent aussi, tous

1936
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,000
les MRC, dont la l'agglomération

1937
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,000
de Montréal doit avoir la

1938
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,000
gestion des milieux humides. La

1939
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Ville doit pouvoir se conformer

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,000
aussi à cette disposition-là du

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,000
schéma.

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,000
- O.K., Donc, au moins 50% de la

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,000
forêt

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,000
(---)

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,000
qu'on ne va pas toucher?

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,000
- J'ai pas exactement les

1947
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
chiffres avec moi, mais oui,

1948
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
dans le fond, on va devoir se

1949
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,000
conformer aux plans des milieux

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,000
humides de la région.

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,000
- O.K., On commence avec ça.

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Parfait, merci beaucoup.

1953
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,000
- Ils auraient Home?

1954
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,060
- Bonsoir. Alors, moi, je

1955
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:04,060
voulais remercier le conseil.

1956
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:06,060
Monsieur Cohen et la direction

1957
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:10,060
de la ville d'avoir embarqué

1958
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:12,060
dans le projet des jardins

1959
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:14,060
communautaires dans le quartier

1960
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:16,060
en Haïda. Je suis très

1961
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:18,060
reconnaissante. Je veux faire de

1962
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:19,060
ce jardin-là quelque chose qui

1963
01:16:19,060 --> 01:16:22,060
va être porteurs pour notre

1964
01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:23,060
quartier. Et je veux impliquer

1965
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:24,060
le plus de gens possible

1966
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:26,060
là-dedans. Et je voulais vous

1967
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:28,060
remercier.

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- Merci beaucoup. Robert Peck.

1969
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:41,060
>> Thank you City Councillors, I

1970
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:44,060
am a former resident of

1971
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:45,060
Pointe-Claire. My father was a

1972
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:46,060
World War II veteran who settled

1973
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:47,060
in Lakeside Heights and I grew

1974
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:49,060
up on circle Road so it's my

1975
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:53,060
first time back in about 40

1976
01:16:53,060 --> 01:16:55,060
years. I was a 35-year Canadian

1977
01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:57,060
diplomat. My last assignment was

1978
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:59,060
ambassador to Greece. I am to

1979
01:16:59,060 --> 01:17:01,020
lean a long-standing and I'm

1980
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:03,020
here basically to add my voice

1981
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:05,020
of support for the Athens park

1982
01:17:05,020 --> 01:17:07,020
initiative. If I could just very

1983
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:11,020
briefly say why. I went to

1984
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:13,020
Northview elementary school and

1985
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:15,020
then Lindsey Place high school.

1986
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:17,020
Athens pizza was very much a

1987
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:19,020
part of our lives. It followed

1988
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:21,020
for subsequent generations in my

1989
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:23,020
own family and I am sure it's

1990
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:26,020
true for many other families in

1991
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:27,020
Pointe-Claire. For thousands of

1992
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:28,020
Pointe-Claire residents in those

1993
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:31,020
in the surrounding area, Athens

1994
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:33,020
pizza headed Greek Canadian

1995
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:34,020
employees represented the

1996
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,020
generosity and kindness of

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01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:40,020
Greece known. Athens pizza was

1998
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,020
also emblematic of the hard work

1999
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:43,020
and sacrifice of the ways of

2000
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:44,020
Greek in immigrants in the post

2001
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:46,020
war period who came to Canada to

2002
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:47,020
start a new life and the

2003
01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:49,020
proposed plan for Athens Park

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01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:51,020
with on only honour the founder

2005
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:55,020
of Athens peas -- pizza but the

2006
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:56,020
important contribution of

2007
01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:57,020
persons of Greek heritage so

2008
01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:00,080
that the community of Québec and

2009
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Canada. My question is very

2010
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,080
simple, how can individual such

2011
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,080
as myself practically support

2012
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,080
efforts to move this initiative

2013
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
along leading to an early

2014
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,080
integration of Athens Park in

2015
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,080
the celebration? The park, in my

2016
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,080
mind, symbolically has

2017
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,080
importance that transcends the

2018
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,080
borders of Pointe-Claire. There

2019
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080
is my question. I have a second

2020
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,080
question on something totally

2021
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,080
different with the national

2022
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,080
focus of the night but I'd be

2023
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,080
interested in any comments.

2024
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,080
>> You are a subsequent

2025
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,080
question. All I can say is, we

2026
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,080
are all on board. I mean it's a

2027
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,080
good initiative. What I could

2028
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,080
encourage you to do is to come

2029
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,080
back and keep doing this every

2030
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,080
month. Come back we month and

2031
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,080
remind us. I think it's well in

2032
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:48,080
the minds and everybody is

2033
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,080
pleased. It's pretty much a

2034
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,080
unanimous thing. I do not see

2035
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,080
any problems. You are, right

2036
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,080
bureaucracy can only slow things

2037
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,080
up. You putting it in our faces,

2038
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,040
it's never a bad thing.

2039
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,040
>> Thank you.

2040
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,040
>> Now your subsequent national

2041
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,040
question.

2042
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,040
>> Could everybody pay attention

2043
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:10,040
to this kind of presentation or

2044
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,040
discourse because a matter of

2045
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,040
heritage is coming up and as a

2046
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,040
current concern in this is exact

2047
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,040
point of heritage. The

2048
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,040
ambassador was talking about was

2049
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,040
the definition of heritage or an

2050
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,040
aspect of heritage of the city

2051
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
is an important memory in that

2052
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,040
important memory is being

2053
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,040
conserved in this way. I just

2054
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,040
wanted to mention this is

2055
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,040
exactly the kind of thing we are

2056
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,040
thinking about now in trying to

2057
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,040
define heritage in

2058
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040
Pointe-Claire, in operational

2059
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,040
way, in other words, how would

2060
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,040
help proper decisions going

2061
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,040
forward. This is an example.

2062
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,040
>> Thank you. My second

2063
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,040
question, I am here basically to

2064
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040
make a pitch about something I'm

2065
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,040
very, very passionate about. I

2066
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,040
have been leading a national

2067
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,040
campaign regarding the national

2068
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:00,000
field of honour, which as you

2069
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,000
know, is a national historic

2070
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,000
site located in Pointe-Claire.

2071
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,000
It is the largest Canadian and

2072
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,000
allied veterans cemetery in

2073
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,000
Canada with veterans from 23

2074
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,000
countries and it's on our

2075
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
backdoor here in Pointe-Claire.

2076
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,000
As a former Canadian ambassador,

2077
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,000
I have visited the graves of

2078
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,000
Canadian soldiers around the

2079
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,000
world meticulously maintained in

2080
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,000
perpetuity by the Commonwealth

2081
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,000
work race Commission. The last

2082
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
post fund, with two I have been

2083
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
working with for quite some

2084
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,000
years now, a nonprofit

2085
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,000
organization that is when the

2086
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,000
cemetery for Décarie basically

2087
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,000
is running out of money. They

2088
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,000
have four years in which has

2089
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,000
long. Their endowment would be

2090
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,000
completed in a few short years,

2091
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,000
largely because of rising

2092
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,000
overhead costs and declining

2093
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,000
revenues for burials, which is

2094
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,000
one of their major revenue

2095
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,000
streams. With the recent federal

2096
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
cabinet shuffle in Ottawa, we

2097
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,000
now have the third minister of

2098
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,000
veterans of here that we have

2099
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000
been working with. The new MP,

2100
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,000
who is now the minister, is

2101
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,000
Darren Fisher, he's an MP for

2102
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,060
Nova Scotia. Two Montréal area

2103
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:03,060
liberal parliamentarians, you

2104
01:21:03,060 --> 01:21:07,060
all know Francis the local MP

2105
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:11,060
and

2106
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:13,060
[Inaudible]

2107
01:21:13,060 --> 01:21:14,060
Have been champions. I also lead

2108
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:15,060
with another former ambassador,

2109
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:16,060
petition to the House of Commons

2110
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:18,060
last September where we had

2111
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:21,060
nearly 1500 signatory which

2112
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,060
included two former ministers of

2113
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:24,060
former affairs, a former

2114
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:26,060
Governor General who all said

2115
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:27,060
let's get this done. In the

2116
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:29,060
scheme of things, it is peanuts.

2117
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:30,060
This is not big money we are

2118
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:34,060
talking about. The last veterans

2119
01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:37,060
affairs minister made a private

2120
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:40,060
visit last November to the field

2121
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:43,060
of honour and we thought

2122
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:44,060
something was in the offing.

2123
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:46,060
Alas, in the government

2124
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:48,060
following economic statement, we

2125
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:50,060
guide a statement saying as we

2126
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:51,060
have been told before, we will

2127
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:52,060
continue to work with the

2128
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:55,060
national field of honour to find

2129
01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:58,060
a way to preserve the legacy of

2130
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:01,020
veterans but there was no money

2131
01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:02,020
attached like there were four

2132
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:06,020
other initiatives so it fell

2133
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:09,020
flat. As we all know, the 80th

2134
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020
anniversary of the Second World

2135
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:13,020
War in 2025. My appeal to you

2136
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:14,020
all tonight is what better

2137
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:15,020
occasion for Canada to honour

2138
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:17,020
the sacrifice and legacy of

2139
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:19,020
veterans who rest in the

2140
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:21,020
national field of honour by to

2141
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:22,020
announce the federal government

2142
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,020
will ensure that the cemetery

2143
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:26,020
will be maintained and taken

2144
01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:28,020
over by the government of

2145
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:29,020
Canada. I should add that the

2146
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:31,020
National Post Fund has offered

2147
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:35,020
to transfer gratuitously the

2148
01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:36,020
properties, the federal

2149
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:38,020
government, as well as a 900,000

2150
01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:41,020
dollar in the trust fund. It's a

2151
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:43,020
gift to the federal government.

2152
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:46,020
My request to all of you is, we

2153
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:48,020
are pushing the new ministers

2154
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:50,020
veteran affairs and what remains

2155
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:51,020
of the government. We all know

2156
01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:52,020
that there is going to be an

2157
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:53,020
election in the fall but that

2158
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:55,020
will not be probably until the

2159
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:58,020
spring. We are urge, urging

2160
01:22:58,020 --> 01:23:00,080
minister Fischer to get it done.

2161
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,080
My question is, could I request,

2162
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,080
respectfully, that the City

2163
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,080
Council pass a resolution urging

2164
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,080
minister Fisher, the Middle East

2165
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,080
are a veteran affairs, to take

2166
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,080
the necessary steps to ensure

2167
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,080
perpetuity the viability and

2168
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,080
sustainability of the field of

2169
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,080
honour, a national historic

2170
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,080
site, in the boundaries of

2171
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,080
Pointe-Claire? That is my

2172
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,080
request, that is my question.

2173
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,080
Thank you.

2174
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,080
>> It sounds like a reasonable

2175
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,080
one and I cannot speak for the

2176
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,080
rest of Council but I thank you

2177
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,080
for your encouragement.

2178
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,080
>> Thank you. Thank you very

2179
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,080
much.

2180
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:44,080
- Louise arrêt? C'est la fin de

2181
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,080
la période de questions.

2182
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,080
>> Sorry, may I just add

2183
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,080
something?

2184
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,080
>> Absolutely.

2185
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,080
>> Just so it does not fall

2186
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,080
through the cracks, would you

2187
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,040
mind emailing madame Verdon your

2188
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,040
request? Like I said, there's a

2189
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,040
lot of things that come across a

2190
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,040
table in that way we can ensure

2191
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:08,040
that we get it done.

2192
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,040
- 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt

2193
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,040
d'un projet de règlement

2194
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,040
décrétant un emprunt à long

2195
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,040
terme et une dépense en

2196
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,040
immobilisations de 500 000 $

2197
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,040
pour le remplacement et la mise

2198
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,040
à niveau de la flotte des

2199
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,040
véhicules du service des travaux

2200
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,040
publics et des immeubles. Le

2201
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,040
type de véhicules visés sont

2202
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,040
avec utilitaires, une

2203
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,040
camionnette, une rétro

2204
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,040
excavatrice, une déchiqueteuse

2205
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,040
et deux remorques. 5.2, a notice

2206
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:36,040
of motion filing of a draft

2207
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,040
by-law amending Zoning By-law

2208
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,040
PC-2775 in order to clarify

2209
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,040
definitions related to terrace

2210
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,040
and garden structures, and to

2211
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,040
regulate the development and the

2212
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,040
use of commercial terraces and

2213
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,040
microterraces.

2214
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,040
- 5.3 Avis de motion et dépôt

2215
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,040
d'un projet de règlement

2216
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,040
modifiant le Règlement de

2217
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,040
construction PC-2786 concernant

2218
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,040
le calcul de la capacité

2219
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,040
d'accueil de même que les règles

2220
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,040
relatives à l'aménagement d'une

2221
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,040
structure au-dessus d'une

2222
01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:00,000
terrasse commerciale. >> 5.4,

2223
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,000
Notice of motion and filing of a

2224
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,000
draft by-law amending Site

2225
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,000
Planning and Architectural

2226
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,000
Integration Program By-law

2227
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,000
PC-2787 in order to regulate

2228
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,000
commercial terraces.

2229
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,000
- Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

2230
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,000
projet de règlement modifiant le

2231
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,000
Règlement des permis et

2232
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,000
certificats PC-2788 afin de

2233
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,000
préciser les informations

2234
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,000
requises au dépôt d'une demande

2235
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,000
de certificat d'autorisation

2236
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,000
concernant une terrasse

2237
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
commerciale de même que la durée

2238
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,000
de validité dudit certificat

2239
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,000
d'autorisation. >> The motion

2240
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,000
5.6 Notice of motion and filing

2241
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,000
of a draft by-law amending the

2242
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,000
Village Code PC-2880 in order to

2243
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,000
clarify that commercial terraces

2244
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,000
are not governed by the Village

2245
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,000
Code.

2246
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,000
>> Who presents these notices of

2247
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,000
motion? 5.1 to 5.6.

2248
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,000
>> Brent Cowan. District 8. 5.7,

2249
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Adoption of a first draft by-law

2250
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,000
amending Zoning By-law PC-2775

2251
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,000
in order to clarify definitions

2252
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,000
(---)

2253
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,000
les principales modifications

2254
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,000
proposées selon le type de

2255
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,000
terrasse concerne les usages

2256
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,000
permettant l'aménagement et

2257
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,000
l'exploitation, la localisation,

2258
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,000
les règles relatives à

2259
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,000
l'aménagement et le

2260
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,060
positionnement. No

2261
01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:14,060
Les activités permises ou

2262
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:16,060
prohibée, la capacité d'accueil

2263
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:17,060
maximale tenant compte des

2264
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:19,060
moyens d'évacuation des

2265
01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:20,060
(---)

2266
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:21,060
de même que du nombre minimal de

2267
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:23,060
cases de stationnement requis.

2268
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:24,060
Ainsi que les heures

2269
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:26,060
d'opération. Certaines

2270
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060
dispositions sont sujet à

2271
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
l'approbation des personnes

2272
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:30,060
habiles à voter. Une

2273
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,060
consultation publique sera tenue

2274
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:34,060
dans quelques semaines avant

2275
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:35,060
l'adoption du second projet est

2276
01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:37,060
un avis sera publié pour donner

2277
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:39,060
les détails de cette

2278
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:41,060
consultation. Après l'adoption

2279
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:42,060
du second projet, un avis sera

2280
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:44,060
publié qui s'adressera, elle,

2281
01:26:44,060 --> 01:26:46,060
aux personnes habiles à voter du

2282
01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:48,060
secteur. Enfin, une version

2283
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:50,060
finale sera présentée au Conseil

2284
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:55,060
pour une adoption finale.

2285
01:26:58,060 --> 01:26:59,060
>> 5.8 Adoption of a first draft

2286
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:00,020
by-law amending the Construction

2287
01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:02,020
By-law PC-2786 regarding the

2288
01:27:02,020 --> 01:27:03,020
calculation of occupancy

2289
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:04,020
capacity as well as the rules

2290
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020
related to the construction of a

2291
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,020
structure above a commercial

2292
01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:08,020
terrace. The purpose of such an

2293
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:09,020
amendment to establish the rules

2294
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:10,020
to ensure the quality and safety

2295
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:12,020
of people on commercial

2296
01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:14,020
terraces.

2297
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:15,020
- 5.9, Adoption d'un premier

2298
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:16,020
projet de règlement modifiant le

2299
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:17,020
Règlement sur les plans

2300
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:21,020
d'implantation et d'intégration

2301
01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:22,020
architecturale PC-2787 afin

2302
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:23,020
d'encadrer les terrasses

2303
01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:24,020
commerciales. Dans le but de

2304
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:25,020
mener une équité, un équilibre,

2305
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,020
une saine cohabitation et une

2306
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:28,020
cohésion dans le développement

2307
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:29,020
ou le développement du

2308
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:30,020
territoire. Il est important de

2309
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:32,020
définir les objectifs et des

2310
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:33,020
critères pour encadrer

2311
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:34,020
l'aménagement et l'exploitation

2312
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:36,020
des terrasses commerciales, et

2313
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:37,020
ce peu importe la localisation

2314
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:38,020
de ses dernières à l'intérieur

2315
01:27:38,020 --> 01:27:40,020
du territoire de paix

2316
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:43,020
Pointe-Claire.

2317
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:44,020
>> 5.10 Adoption of a first

2318
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:45,020
draft By-law amending the

2319
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:46,020
Village Code, by-law PC-2880 of

2320
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:47,020
the city of Pointe-Claire, in

2321
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:49,020
order to clarify that commercial

2322
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:50,020
terraces are not governed by the

2323
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:52,020
Village Code. The purpose of

2324
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:53,020
this amendment to clarifying

2325
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:55,020
harbour new harmonized to rule

2326
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:57,020
applicable to commercial

2327
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:58,020
tariffs.

2328
01:27:58,020 --> 01:28:02,080
- Pour 5,7 à 5,10? Do I have a

2329
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,080
mover?

2330
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,080
>> Prepare to move this motion

2331
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,080
or like to explain to everybody

2332
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,080
this is a first draft bylaw.

2333
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,080
There is the plan to have a

2334
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,080
public consultation going

2335
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080
forward to get everybody to

2336
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,080
weigh in on this first draft

2337
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,080
does not mean it's the final

2338
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,080
version. It gives the

2339
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,080
opportunity for those, that kind

2340
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,080
of feedback. The -- putting in a

2341
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,080
commercial terrasse operation,

2342
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,080
there is always going to be the

2343
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,080
issue of promoting business

2344
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080
versus the nuisance to

2345
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,080
potentially to businesses on the

2346
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,080
side and residents that might

2347
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:40,080
live nearby. This is a difficult

2348
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,080
balance to effect and that is

2349
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,080
why it's important to have the

2350
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,080
feedback of the people that will

2351
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,080
be involved in that opportunity

2352
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,080
will be there. With that said, I

2353
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,080
move the adoption of the first

2354
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,080
draft bylaw identified at 5.7

2355
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,080
through 5.10. Brent Cowan.

2356
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,080
District 8.

2357
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,040
>> And seconder?

2358
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,040
>> Eric Stork. District 7.

2359
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,040
>> I would like to speak to 5.7

2360
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,040
and 5.10. Pour moi, je votre

2361
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,040
contre les

2362
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,040
(---)

2363
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,040
cinq points sept à cinq points

2364
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,040
dix, parce qu'ils appliquent

2365
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,040
l'adoption d'un nouveau projet

2366
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,040
de règlement avec lequel je suis

2367
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,040
en désaccord. Ils contraindra

2368
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,040
excessivement les commerçants de

2369
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,040
Pointe-Claire avec la

2370
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,040
bureaucratie et limitera leur

2371
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,040
capacité à s'engager dans des

2372
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,040
activités commerciales à

2373
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,040
l'extérieur de leur

2374
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,040
établissement, comme les

2375
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,040
terrasses, les cours, etc.. Plus

2376
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,040
important encore, ce règlement

2377
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,040
perpétuera une tendance en cours

2378
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,040
depuis des années, voire des

2379
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,040
décennies, en limitant la

2380
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,040
capacité des citoyens de

2381
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,040
Pointe-Claire à s'amuser sans

2382
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,040
problème à l'extérieur et à

2383
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,040
l'intérieur des établissements

2384
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,040
commerciaux. Les clauses du

2385
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040
règlement que je trouve

2386
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,000
excessive sont les suivantes:

2387
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
sur les terrasses commerciales,

2388
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,000
les activités telles que la

2389
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,000
danse, les représentations

2390
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,000
théâtrales ou cinématographique

2391
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,000
ou les spectacles utilisant des

2392
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,000
haut-parleurs ou tout autre

2393
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,000
appareil d'amplification du sont

2394
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:22,000
sont interdits. Donc, la danse,

2395
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,000
les haut-parleurs et

2396
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,000
l'amplification du sont sont

2397
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,000
interdits. Sérieusement. La

2398
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
capacité... deuxième: la

2399
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,000
capacité maximale de la terrasse

2400
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,000
et le nombre de places

2401
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,000
correspondant à la moitié des

2402
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,000
places intérieures de

2403
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,000
l'établissement, ou 25 places.

2404
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,000
Dans le cadre du studio 77, cela

2405
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,000
signifie 27 personnes au total

2406
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,000
et nous savons tous qu'il y a

2407
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
toujours eu beaucoup plus que

2408
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,000
cela et que le nombre de

2409
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,000
personnes n'est jamais

2410
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,000
(---)

2411
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,000
dangereux ou problématique.

2412
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,000
Comme nous le savons tous, les

2413
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,060
lieux de spectacle ont été

2414
01:31:00,060 --> 01:31:02,060
traités avec

2415
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:03,060
(---)

2416
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:05,060
pendant de nombreuses années,

2417
01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:06,060
voire des décennies. Et

2418
01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:09,060
j'aimerais que cela change. Je

2419
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:11,060
conviens que les établissements

2420
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:13,060
commerciaux ne devraient pas

2421
01:31:13,060 --> 01:31:17,060
être autorisés à perturber ou à

2422
01:31:17,060 --> 01:31:19,060
nuire à la qualité de vie de

2423
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:21,060
leurs voisins et que le volume

2424
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:24,060
sonore devrait toujours être

2425
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:25,060
contrôlé. Mais j'ai l'impression

2426
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:27,060
que la Ville peut faire

2427
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:29,060
davantage de compromis afin de

2428
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:31,060
s'assurer que les citoyens de

2429
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:32,060
Pointe-Claire ne perde pas la

2430
01:31:32,060 --> 01:31:34,060
possibilité de célébrer et de

2431
01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:37,060
profiter de la vie de manière

2432
01:31:37,060 --> 01:31:38,060
raisonnable, en particulier dans

2433
01:31:38,060 --> 01:31:43,060
leurs villages commerciaux. I

2434
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:46,060
debated because Councillor Cohen

2435
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:48,060
was indeed correct, will be a

2436
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:49,060
consultation process, but I

2437
01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:51,060
quite simply do not like the

2438
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:53,060
first draft for the reasons that

2439
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:54,060
I have just specified in French

2440
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:58,060
but I will elaborate in English.

2441
01:31:58,060 --> 01:32:01,020
I am against 5.7 and 5.10

2442
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:02,020
because they involve the

2443
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:03,020
adoption of a new draft bylaw

2444
01:32:03,020 --> 01:32:06,020
that I disagree with because I

2445
01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:08,020
feel little overly constraint

2446
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:09,020
Pointe-Claire merchant with

2447
01:32:09,020 --> 01:32:10,020
bureaucracy and limit their

2448
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:12,020
ability to engage in commercial

2449
01:32:12,020 --> 01:32:13,020
activities on the outside of

2450
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:15,020
their establishments example,

2451
01:32:15,020 --> 01:32:17,020
terraces, courtyards, et cetera.

2452
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:19,020
More importantly, this bylaw

2453
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:21,020
will perpetuate an ongoing trend

2454
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:23,020
for years even decades limiting

2455
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:25,020
the ability of Pointe-Claire

2456
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:27,020
citizens to have harmless finds

2457
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:28,020
both inside and outside of

2458
01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:31,020
commercial establishment. The

2459
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:33,020
clauses of the bylaw that I find

2460
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:35,020
excessive are, number one, a

2461
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:37,020
commercial terraces activities

2462
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:41,020
such as dancing, theatrical or

2463
01:32:41,020 --> 01:32:42,020
cinematography performances or

2464
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:44,020
shows using loudspeakers or any

2465
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:46,020
other sound amplification

2466
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:48,020
devices are prohibited. So

2467
01:32:48,020 --> 01:32:52,020
dancing, speakers and

2468
01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:53,020
amplification interests are

2469
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:55,020
prohibited. Seriously? For me,

2470
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:57,020
that is a little harsh. Number

2471
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:59,020
two, the maximum terrasse

2472
01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:00,080
capacity shall be the number of

2473
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,080
seats corresponding to half the

2474
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,080
establishment indoor seating or

2475
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,080
25 seats. In the case of studio

2476
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,080
77, which is big for

2477
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,080
Pointe-Claire Village, this

2478
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,080
would mean 27 people total. We

2479
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,080
all know that there are many

2480
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,080
more than that and that the

2481
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,080
volume of people never seem

2482
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,080
cramped, dangerous or a problem

2483
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,080
in the events that occurred

2484
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,080
there. As we all know, live

2485
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,080
entertainment have been treated

2486
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,080
to this day for many years and

2487
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:28,080
decades now and I like this to

2488
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,080
change. I agree that commercial

2489
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,080
establishment should not be

2490
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,080
permitted to disrupt or

2491
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,080
adversely affect the quality of

2492
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,080
life with their neighbours and

2493
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,080
sound volume should always be

2494
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,080
controlled but somehow I feel

2495
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,080
that more compromise can be made

2496
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,080
on the part of this city in

2497
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,080
order to also ensure that

2498
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,080
Pointe-Claire citizens do not

2499
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,080
lose out on the ability to

2500
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,080
celebrate and enjoy life in a

2501
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,080
reasonable matter especially in

2502
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,080
their commercial villages. That

2503
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,080
is my take on that. We have a

2504
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,040
mover. I had a mover. Did we

2505
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:05,040
have a seconder? Non?.

2506
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,040
>> Now.

2507
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,040
>> Do I have a seconder?

2508
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,040
Councillor Brent Cowan moved.

2509
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,040
5.7 to 5.10.

2510
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,040
>> Eric Stork. District 7. I

2511
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,040
liked as a speak to the matter

2512
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,040
as well.

2513
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,040
>> Absolutely.

2514
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,040
>> Just for clarification, this

2515
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,040
bylaw is the general bylaw in

2516
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,040
terms of outdoor music and

2517
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,040
outdoor speakers. You can still

2518
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,040
do such events through a special

2519
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,040
permit process. We do not want

2520
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,040
to be something general across

2521
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,040
the board. One guy is playing

2522
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,040
rap music, the other guys

2523
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,040
playing classic next pre-show.

2524
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,040
That we want to have some sort

2525
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,040
of control element so you can

2526
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,040
still do outdoor shows in terms

2527
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,040
of the special process which is

2528
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,040
standard. Another thing, just to

2529
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,040
clarify, is the 50% rule is

2530
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,040
actually a bylaw that exists and

2531
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,040
if we aren't happy with, it then

2532
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,040
we should potentially change it

2533
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,040
but we have to follow the rules

2534
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,040
that governs us this moment.

2535
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,040
Thank you.

2536
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,000
>> All in favour of 5.7 to 5.10?

2537
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000
All against? Cinq points 11?

2538
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,000
- 5.11 Adoption sans

2539
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,000
modification d'un Règlement

2540
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,000
relatif à la démolition des

2541
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,000
immeubles. Les principaux

2542
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,000
objectifs visés par le Règlement

2543
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,000
de démolition sont: protégés

2544
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,000
améliorer et mettre en valeur le

2545
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,000
cadre bâti des immeubles

2546
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,000
présentant une

2547
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,000
(---)

2548
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,000
un bien culturel au sens de la

2549
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,000
Loi sur le patrimoine culturel.

2550
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,000
Maintenir un parc immobilier de

2551
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,000
qualité et adapter, permettant

2552
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,000
de répondre aux besoins des

2553
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,000
ménages. S'assurer que le

2554
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,000
programme préliminaire de

2555
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,000
réalisation du sol dégagé

2556
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,000
contribué à la mise en valeur du

2557
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,000
paysage urbanisé existant. Avant

2558
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,000
le recours ultime à la

2559
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,000
démolition, donner la priorité à

2560
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,000
la rénovation, à la restauration

2561
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,000
ou à la réutilisation des

2562
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,000
bâtiments existants dans une

2563
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,000
perspective de durabilité, de

2564
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,000
réduction de l'empreinte

2565
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
carbone, lorsque l'entretien du

2566
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,000
bâtiment est encore

2567
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,000
raisonnablement possible,

2568
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,060
notamment en ce qui concerne les

2569
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:01,060
investissements requis.

2570
01:36:01,060 --> 01:36:02,060
Planifier globalement

2571
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:04,060
l'exécution des travaux dans une

2572
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:05,060
perspective de gestion

2573
01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:06,060
écologique et responsable des

2574
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:08,060
ressources affectées au projet.

2575
01:36:08,060 --> 01:36:10,060
Et enfin, régler les problèmes

2576
01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:12,060
de salubrité, de nuisance ou de

2577
01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:15,060
sécurité des bâtiments

2578
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:16,060
obsolètes.

2579
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:18,060
- Pour cinq points 11. Do I have

2580
01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:19,060
a mover?

2581
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:21,060
>> Brent Cowan.

2582
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:22,060
District 8. I'd asked for that

2583
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:24,060
to be read an English for the

2584
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:26,060
benefit of the audience.

2585
01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:31,060
>> Adoption of the modification

2586
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:34,060
modification of a By-law

2587
01:36:34,060 --> 01:36:35,060
respecting the demolition of

2588
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:36,060
immovables.. Protect enhance the

2589
01:36:36,060 --> 01:36:37,060
move those that have heritage

2590
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:38,060
value or constitute cultural

2591
01:36:38,060 --> 01:36:39,060
property within the meaning of

2592
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:40,060
the cultural heritage Act.

2593
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:42,060
Improve the quality and

2594
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:43,060
functionality of housing while

2595
01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:44,060
maintaining the housing stock

2596
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:46,060
that needs expressed needs.

2597
01:36:46,060 --> 01:36:47,060
Ensure that the preliminary

2598
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:48,060
program for the realization of

2599
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:50,060
the vacated lounge contribute to

2600
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:52,060
the enhancement of the existing

2601
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:54,060
urbanized landscape. Before

2602
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:56,060
resorting ultimately to

2603
01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:57,060
demolition, give priority to

2604
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:59,060
renovating, restoring, or using

2605
01:36:59,060 --> 01:37:01,020
existing buildings on the

2606
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:02,020
sustainability and carbon

2607
01:37:02,020 --> 01:37:03,020
footprint reduction perspective

2608
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:05,020
in cases where maintaining the

2609
01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:07,020
building is still reasonably

2610
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:08,020
possible. Particularly in terms

2611
01:37:08,020 --> 01:37:10,020
of the investment required. Plan

2612
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,020
the overall execution of the

2613
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:14,020
work from the perspective of

2614
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:15,020
ecological and responsible

2615
01:37:15,020 --> 01:37:16,020
management of the resources

2616
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:18,020
allocated to the project and

2617
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:21,020
lastly, resolve how, uses and

2618
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:22,020
safety issues related to

2619
01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:25,020
obsolete buildings.

2620
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:30,020
>> So I move item 5.11. Brent

2621
01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:31,020
Cowan. District 8.

2622
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:35,020
>> Seconder?

2623
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:37,020
>> All in favour?

2624
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:42,020
>> If I may? What is not written

2625
01:37:42,020 --> 01:37:46,020
in that by law and I have asked

2626
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:51,020
for at least eight years -- I

2627
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:55,020
will get under ten years -- is

2628
01:37:55,020 --> 01:38:00,080
that the replacement plan is not

2629
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:08,080
-- it has nothing to do with the

2630
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,080
demolition. Finally, I got that,

2631
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:16,080
it took a while but now the

2632
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,080
committee cannot state after

2633
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:23,080
seeing the plans. I was told

2634
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,080
that you will see a volumes and

2635
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:31,080
site planning no reshapes or

2636
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,080
things like that. I am really

2637
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,080
happy about this.

2638
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,080
- Donc, vous votez pour,

2639
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,080
Monsieur Cousineau?

2640
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:40,080
- Oui.

2641
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:45,080
- Vous êtes pour? O.K.. >> 6.1

2642
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,080
Consider a request for revision

2643
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,080
pertaining to the decision of

2644
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,080
the Demolition Committee

2645
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,080
regarding the refusal of the

2646
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,080
demolition and of the programme

2647
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,080
for the reutilization of the

2648
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,080
vacated land of the immovable

2649
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,080
located at 191 Du

2650
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,040
bord-du-lac-lakeshore road. An

2651
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,040
application for review of the

2652
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,040
decision rendered on November

2653
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,040
14th, 2024 by the demolition

2654
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,040
committee has been filed. This

2655
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,040
decision refuses the request to

2656
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,040
demolish the building as well as

2657
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,040
the program of a realization of

2658
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,040
the vacated land. The building

2659
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,040
in question is not a heritage

2660
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:15,040
building. The application for

2661
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,040
review was received within the

2662
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,040
time limits prescribed by the

2663
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,040
bylaw. PC 20 and 18. In

2664
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,040
accordance with article 38 of

2665
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
the bylaw, Council must render a

2666
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,040
decision on the demolition

2667
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,040
request and the program of the

2668
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:29,040
realization of the vacated land

2669
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,040
as submitted to the demolition

2670
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,040
committee. Council may appeal

2671
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,040
the decision of the demolition

2672
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,040
committee or render the decision

2673
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,040
that the committee should have

2674
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,040
rendered.

2675
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:45,040
>> For 6.1 in 6.2 as well.

2676
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,040
Est-ce qu'on a déjà eu 6,2? On a

2677
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,040
fait les deux? Le deuxième?

2678
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,040
- 6.2 Autoriser la participation

2679
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,040
de certains membres du conseil,

2680
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,040
ainsi que 2 employés aux assises

2681
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,040
annuelles de l'Union des

2682
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,040
municipalités du Québec devant

2683
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,000
se tenir du 14 au 16 mai 2025, à

2684
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,000
Québec. L'autorisation vise

2685
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,000
monsieur le maire de même que

2686
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,000
les

2687
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:06,000
(---)

2688
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,000
terres Stainforth est au stade

2689
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,000
Colin. Les conseillers Eric

2690
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,000
Stork et

2691
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,000
(inaudible)

2692
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,000
Bruno Tremblay et Brad Caron,

2693
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000
ainsi que la directeur général,

2694
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000
Karina Verdon et le directeur

2695
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,000
adjoint

2696
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,000
(inaudible)

2697
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,000
.

2698
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,000
- Alors, pour six points à six

2699
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,000
points de vue... Do I have a

2700
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,000
mover?

2701
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,000
>> And seconder?

2702
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,000
- Je veux m'adresser... >> Paul

2703
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,000
Bissonnette. District 2.

2704
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,000
>> Mayor, would you be surprised

2705
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,000
-- precise for 6.1, what is the

2706
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,000
decision for Council? From

2707
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,000
Council, please? Is it possible

2708
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,000
to do the vote for 6.1. I would

2709
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,000
also need to know what is the

2710
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:50,000
decision from Council.

2711
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,000
>> Myself as well because I was

2712
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,000
clear on a subsequent one but

2713
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,000
6.1 is. We are voting to support

2714
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:02,060
the decision by either support

2715
01:41:02,060 --> 01:41:04,060
or uphold the decision of the

2716
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:05,060
demolition committee.

2717
01:41:05,060 --> 01:41:08,060
>> Does Council uphold the

2718
01:41:08,060 --> 01:41:12,060
decision of the motion committee

2719
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,060
or overturn the decision?

2720
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:17,060
>> For 6.1, we are voting yay to

2721
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:20,060
uphold and nay --

2722
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:22,060
>> We can just ask it in one

2723
01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:23,060
version.

2724
01:41:23,060 --> 01:41:24,060
>> Who is in favour.

2725
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:26,060
>> All in favour of upholding

2726
01:41:26,060 --> 01:41:27,060
the decision of the demolition

2727
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:28,060
committee?

2728
01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:29,060
>> Do I address Council before

2729
01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:34,060
we go to vote? Not Council. I

2730
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:38,060
will object to that decision

2731
01:41:38,060 --> 01:41:41,060
even though I voted for not

2732
01:41:41,060 --> 01:41:46,060
demolish sheen previously. 5.11

2733
01:41:47,060 --> 01:41:50,060
was not considered back then and

2734
01:41:50,060 --> 01:41:55,060
other reasons why I voted

2735
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:58,060
against the demolition,

2736
01:41:58,060 --> 01:42:01,020
originally, was trying to save

2737
01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:04,020
some material. The debate was on

2738
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:07,020
another level so I will be

2739
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:10,020
voting against.

2740
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:12,020
>> We are about to vote.

2741
01:42:12,020 --> 01:42:16,020
>> You know what I mean.

2742
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:18,020
>> Maybe we do not know what you

2743
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:19,020
mean, Claude Cousineau. Could

2744
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:21,020
you be more specific?

2745
01:42:21,020 --> 01:42:26,020
>> I will be voting against the

2746
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:30,020
committee's decision.

2747
01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:33,020
>> So you want to overturn the

2748
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:34,020
motion committee decision?

2749
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:35,020
>> Yes.

2750
01:42:35,020 --> 01:42:36,020
>> Thanks.

2751
01:42:36,020 --> 01:42:38,020
>> We are going to have the vote

2752
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:40,020
right, now are we? Pour 6,1...

2753
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:42,020
All in favour of supporting the

2754
01:42:42,020 --> 01:42:43,020
--

2755
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:46,020
>> I could just. I want to make

2756
01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:48,020
something clear. Legally, the

2757
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:50,020
decision that we are making

2758
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:54,020
today is to uphold the decision

2759
01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:56,020
by demolition committee with the

2760
01:42:56,020 --> 01:42:59,020
information provided at the

2761
01:42:59,020 --> 01:43:01,080
time. Obviously the gentleman

2762
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,080
who introduce himself earlier is

2763
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,080
questioning some reports and

2764
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,080
such. We are bound by the fact

2765
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,080
to make the decision based upon

2766
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,080
that information even though you

2767
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,080
disagree with it. The important

2768
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,080
thing here is if you want to put

2769
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,080
into question the information,

2770
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,080
you can do so. From us, we

2771
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,080
cannot make a decision based on

2772
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,080
other factors. We have to look

2773
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,080
at the information that is

2774
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,080
provided. Hopefully that makes

2775
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,080
sense but I'd be more than happy

2776
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,080
to explain it to you after. What

2777
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,080
I'm trying to say is that

2778
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,080
whatever information is provided

2779
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,080
by the demolition committees

2780
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,080
what we have to base it on. An

2781
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,080
opinion, second thought, I did

2782
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:43,080
this, way I did, that we have to

2783
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,080
go off of the information that

2784
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,080
is provided. If you question

2785
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:48,080
that information provided, that

2786
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,080
is something that should be done

2787
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,080
further down the line. Hopefully

2788
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,080
that makes sense.

2789
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,080
>> Can I add just a very short

2790
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,040
thing? This is not my first

2791
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,040
rodeo. I can bring up some

2792
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,040
addresses and it's so, so

2793
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,040
arbitrary that it's not fair for

2794
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,040
the citizens, for the owner.

2795
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:18,040
That is why I am voting against.

2796
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,040
To overturn the decision,

2797
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:28,040
whatever the vote is.

2798
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,040
>> All in favour of supporting

2799
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,040
the decision of the demolition

2800
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:38,040
committee?

2801
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,040
All against?

2802
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,040
>> 6.2 for some? You know hot

2803
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:53,040
for 6.2.

2804
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:58,040
>> Do I have a mover?

2805
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,000
>> Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

2806
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:06,000
>> And seconder?

2807
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,000
>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

2808
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,000
>> Of a very? I'm against?

2809
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,000
>> Organizations from the meld

2810
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:20,000
and pretty much 6.3 dollars

2811
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,000
Grant a financial support to

2812
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,000
various non-profit organizations

2813
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:23,000
for a total amount of $ 8,935.

2814
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:24,000
The organization's concerns are

2815
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,000
as follows, Via Association

2816
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,000
(---)

2817
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,000
Mark Vanier est une, Fondation

2818
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,000
Yvon Lamarre, l'habitation

2819
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:35,000
jeunesse de l'ouest de l'île.

2820
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,000
- 6.4 Autoriser la participation

2821
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,000
des membres du conseil au

2822
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,000
congrès annuel de la Fédération

2823
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,000
Canadienne des Municipalités

2824
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,000
devant se tenir du 29 mai au 1

2825
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,000
juin 2025, à Ottawa.

2826
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,000
L'autorisation vise monsieur le

2827
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,000
maire de même que Madame les

2828
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,000
conseillères Table Austin forte

2829
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,000
et Kelly Thorstad-Cullen.

2830
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,000
Messieurs les conseillers Eric

2831
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,000
Stork, Claude Cousineau, Bruno

2832
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,000
Tremblay et Braun Caron.

2833
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,000
>> For 6.3 and 6.4, do I have a

2834
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,060
mover?

2835
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:02,060
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5.

2836
01:46:02,060 --> 01:46:04,060
>> And seconder?

2837
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:05,060
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

2838
01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:07,060
>> You all in favour?

2839
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:08,060
>> Thank you.

2840
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:09,060
>> 7.1, for the minutes of

2841
01:46:09,060 --> 01:46:13,060
October 23rd 2024 meeting of the

2842
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:14,060
youth advisory board.

2843
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:15,060
- 7.2 Déposer le procès-verbal

2844
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:16,060
de la réunion du 27 novembre

2845
01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:17,060
2024 du Comité consultatif

2846
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:22,060
jeunesse. 7.3, to file the

2847
01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:24,060
minutes of the November 28,

2848
01:46:24,060 --> 01:46:25,060
2024, meeting of the

2849
01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:26,060
Pointe-Claire Public Library

2850
01:46:26,060 --> 01:46:29,060
Advisory Board.

2851
01:46:29,060 --> 01:46:30,060
- 7.4 Nommer des membres au sein

2852
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:31,060
du Comité consultatif Stewart

2853
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:32,060
Hall. Suite à des mandats... à

2854
01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:34,060
la fin des mandats de Cameron

2855
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:35,060
Tilson et de Jones

2856
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:36,060
(---)

2857
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:37,060
le comité consultatif recommande

2858
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:39,060
la nomination de deux nouveaux

2859
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:41,060
membres, soit madame

2860
01:46:41,060 --> 01:46:42,060
(---)

2861
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:43,060
et madame Claudia Oliver a pour

2862
01:46:43,060 --> 01:46:44,060
des mandats de trois, en soit du

2863
01:46:44,060 --> 01:46:48,060
1er janvier 2025 ou 31 décembre

2864
01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:51,060
2027. >> 7.5 Renew the mandates

2865
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:52,060
of members of the Canoe Kayak

2866
01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:53,060
Club. These are the following

2867
01:46:53,060 --> 01:46:58,060
members, Archambault, Julie

2868
01:46:59,060 --> 01:47:00,020
Samson.

2869
01:47:00,020 --> 01:47:02,020
- Pour cette virgule quatre et

2870
01:47:02,020 --> 01:47:03,020
7,5

2871
01:47:03,020 --> 01:47:05,020
Do I have a mover.

2872
01:47:05,020 --> 01:47:06,020
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5.

2873
01:47:06,020 --> 01:47:09,020
>> Seconder?

2874
01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:10,020
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

2875
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:11,020
>> All of our?

2876
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:12,020
- 8.1 Autoriser le paiement d'un

2877
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:13,020
montant de 41 522,20 $,

2878
01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:14,020
représentant la cotisation

2879
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:15,020
annuelle à l'Union des

2880
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:16,020
municipalités du Québec, et ce,

2881
01:47:16,020 --> 01:47:17,020
incluant la cotisation au

2882
01:47:17,020 --> 01:47:18,020
Carrefour du capital humain. >>

2883
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:23,020
Thank you.

2884
01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:29,020
>> 9.1 Exercise the renewal

2885
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:30,020
option provided for in the

2886
01:47:30,020 --> 01:47:31,020
contract entered into with

2887
01:47:31,020 --> 01:47:32,020
SPÉCIALISTES DE LA TRADUCTION

2888
01:47:32,020 --> 01:47:33,020
R&R INTERNATIONAL INC., For the

2889
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:35,020
year 2025, in the amount of $

2890
01:47:35,020 --> 01:47:38,020
79,746.66, taxes included, for

2891
01:47:38,020 --> 01:47:39,020
professional translation and

2892
01:47:39,020 --> 01:47:42,020
revision services.

2893
01:47:42,020 --> 01:47:44,020
- 9.2 Se prévaloir de l'option

2894
01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:45,020
de renouvellement prévue au

2895
01:47:45,020 --> 01:47:46,020
contrat intervenu avec PÉNÉGA

2896
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:47,020
COMMUNICATIONS INC.pour l'année

2897
01:47:47,020 --> 01:47:51,020
2025, au montant de 118681,79 $,

2898
01:47:51,020 --> 01:47:52,020
taxes incluses, pour des

2899
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:53,020
services professionnels pour la

2900
01:47:53,020 --> 01:47:54,020
refonte, la sauvegarde et les

2901
01:47:54,020 --> 01:47:55,020
mises à jour du site Web et de

2902
01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:58,020
l'intranet.

2903
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:02,080
- >> For 8.1, nine point to 9.2,

2904
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,080
do I have a mover?

2905
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,080
Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>

2906
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,080
Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

2907
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,080
>> And seconder?

2908
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:11,080
>> Eric Stork you. District 7.

2909
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,080
He

2910
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:17,080
>> Then cute.

2911
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,080
- 10,1. >> Budget amendment 10.1

2912
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:22,080
to find a list of budget

2913
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,080
amendments and the register of

2914
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:24,080
cheques for the period of

2915
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:25,080
November 26, 2024, to December

2916
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,080
31, 2024.

2917
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,080
- 10.2 Autoriser un soutien

2918
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,080
financier à la campagne

2919
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:37,080
Centraide 2024 au montant

2920
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:38,080
équivalent à 75% de la

2921
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:39,080
contribution des employés. La

2922
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:40,080
contribution total s'élève à

2923
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,080
(---)

2924
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:42,080
avec un ajout de 75% de ses

2925
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:43,080
contributions par la ville, soit

2926
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:47,080
14750 dollars et 86, la

2927
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,080
contribution totale à Centraide

2928
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:53,080
et de 34418 dollars et 67. >>

2929
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,080
10.3 Creation of residential and

2930
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,080
non-residential building

2931
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,080
subcategories for the

2932
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,040
2026-2027-2028 assessment role.

2933
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,040
The act respecting municipal

2934
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,040
taxation allows municipalities

2935
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,040
to create subcategories of

2936
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:07,040
renewables on the assessment

2937
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,040
role. For taxation purposes, it

2938
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,040
is therefore proposed to create

2939
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,040
the following sub categories of

2940
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:14,040
nonresidential immovable is

2941
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,040
within the commercial category.

2942
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,040
First category, superregional

2943
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,040
cop shopping centre, 200 stores

2944
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,040
or more. Regional shopping

2945
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,040
centre which is 100 299 stores.

2946
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:28,040
Local shopping centres, 49 to 99

2947
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:29,040
stores. Neighbourhood shopping

2948
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,040
centres, from 15 to 44 stores

2949
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,040
and also neighbourhood shopping

2950
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,040
centre with 14 storms or less.

2951
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,040
And data hosting services. Four

2952
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,040
residential buildings, it is

2953
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,040
proposed to create the snow

2954
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,040
category of six dwellings or

2955
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,040
more.

2956
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,040
- 10.4 Autoriser un amendement

2957
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:46,040
budgétaire afin de transférer

2958
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,040
des fonds pour couvrir les

2959
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,040
postes budgétaires déficitaires

2960
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,040
du service des Travaux Publics

2961
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:50,040
et Immeubles. Le montant du

2962
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040
transfert et de 67300 dollars

2963
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,040
transférés à quatre postes

2964
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
budgétaires différents.

2965
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,040
- Alors, pour une 10,2 à 10,4.

2966
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:03,000
Do I have a mover?

2967
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,000
>> Bruno Tremblay. So district

2968
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,000
6.

2969
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,000
>> Seconder?

2970
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,000
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

2971
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,000
Or

2972
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:13,000
>> A line favour?

2973
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,000
>> 10.5 Exercise the renewal

2974
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,000
option provided for in the

2975
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,000
contract entered into with

2976
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,000
GROUPE D'IMPORTATION ET

2977
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,000
DISTRIBUTION HUGO INC. Also

2978
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,000
known as

2979
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,000
(PROMOTION PLUS)

2980
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,000
, for the period of February 1,

2981
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,000
2025, to January 31, 2026, in

2982
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,000
the amount of $ 59,866.67, taxes

2983
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,000
included for the supply of work

2984
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,000
clothes for blue collar workers.

2985
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,000
- 10.6 Octroyer un contrat pour

2986
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,000
des services d'entretien et

2987
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,000
d'assistance technique des

2988
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,000
logiciels Biblio Mondo, à

2989
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,000
Inmedia Technologies, pour les

2990
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,000
années 2025, 2026 et 2027, pour

2991
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,000
un montant total de 160 904,32

2992
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,000
$, taxes incluses. Bobby Homan

2993
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,000
d'eau et le système de

2994
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,000
bibliothèque intégré qui

2995
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,000
contrôle les acquisitions, le

2996
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,000
catalogage, les publications en

2997
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:58,000
tout genre. Les tout

2998
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,000
(---)

2999
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,060
de sécurité quant aux prêts et

3000
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:03,060
le portail Web de la

3001
01:51:03,060 --> 01:51:05,060
bibliothèque et les services aux

3002
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:07,060
clients. >> 10.7 Award a

3003
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:09,060
contract for Azure backup and

3004
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:10,060
recovery for the years 2025 to

3005
01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:12,060
2028, to ITI INC. For a total

3006
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:15,060
amount of $ 376,299, taxes

3007
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:19,060
included. The proposed

3008
01:51:19,060 --> 01:51:21,060
resolution will replace -- the

3009
01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:23,060
proposed solution, sorry, will

3010
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:24,060
replace our current backup

3011
01:51:24,060 --> 01:51:25,060
system and will also enable

3012
01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:26,060
secure backup and recovery in

3013
01:51:26,060 --> 01:51:28,060
the air gap cloud. The City has

3014
01:51:28,060 --> 01:51:32,060
joined the group formed by the

3015
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:34,060
since 2022 in this contract is

3016
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:37,060
within the framework of said

3017
01:51:37,060 --> 01:51:39,060
group.

3018
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:40,060
- 10.8 Octroyer un contrat pour

3019
01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:41,060
l'achat des licences VMWARE pour

3020
01:51:41,060 --> 01:51:43,060
l'année 2025, à SOFTCHOICE LP,

3021
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:45,060
pour un montant total de 99

3022
01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:49,060
338,40 $, taxes incluses. Les

3023
01:51:50,060 --> 01:51:51,060
licences

3024
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:52,060
(---)

3025
01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:53,060
incluent le support et entretien

3026
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:57,060
de nos systèmes vidéo

3027
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:58,060
(---)

3028
01:51:58,060 --> 01:52:01,020
et nos serveurs est assez pour

3029
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:03,020
l'année 2025. Le support et

3030
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:07,020
entretien couvre le système de

3031
01:52:07,020 --> 01:52:08,020
virtualisation

3032
01:52:08,020 --> 01:52:09,020
(---)

3033
01:52:09,020 --> 01:52:13,020
la majorité des employés. >> For

3034
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:18,020
10.5 to 10.8, do I have a mover?

3035
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:20,020
>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

3036
01:52:20,020 --> 01:52:22,020
>> Seconder?

3037
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:24,020
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5.

3038
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:29,020
>> All in favour?

3039
01:52:30,020 --> 01:52:31,020
>> Madeleine 11.1 Approve a deed

3040
01:52:31,020 --> 01:52:32,020
of sale to be entered into with

3041
01:52:32,020 --> 01:52:33,020
the ministère de

3042
01:52:33,020 --> 01:52:36,020
l'Environnement, de la Lutte

3043
01:52:36,020 --> 01:52:37,020
contre les changements

3044
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:38,020
climatiques, de la Faune et des

3045
01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:39,020
Parcs, regarding lot 6 505 648

3046
01:52:39,020 --> 01:52:40,020
of the Cadastre of Québec. Part

3047
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:44,020
of the car lot will be to come

3048
01:52:44,020 --> 01:52:46,020
lot 600 58 in its acquisition

3049
01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:47,020
will become the city owner of

3050
01:52:47,020 --> 01:52:51,020
the entire park.

3051
01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:56,020
- 12.1 Déposer la liste des

3052
01:52:56,020 --> 01:52:57,020
changements au personnel par

3053
01:52:57,020 --> 01:52:58,020
décisions déléguées pour le mois

3054
01:52:58,020 --> 01:52:59,020
de janvier 2025. >> 12.2 Approve

3055
01:52:59,020 --> 01:53:01,080
the list of non-delegated staff

3056
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,080
changes as of January 14, 2025.

3057
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:05,080
13. Inspection et sécurité

3058
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,080
- Pour 11,1 à 11,2

3059
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,080
Do I have a mover?

3060
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,080
- Je propose d'approuver la

3061
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,080
liste des changements au

3062
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,080
personnel. >> And seconder?

3063
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,080
- Oui, je les ai comme mélangé.

3064
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,080
C'est comme moitié phrase pour

3065
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,080
le un et le deux. Je veux que je

3066
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,080
le répète? Déposer la liste des

3067
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,080
changements personnels et

3068
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,080
approuver la liste des

3069
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,080
changements au personnel.

3070
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,080
- 11,1 aussi.

3071
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:34,080
- Je suis désolé.

3072
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,080
(rires)

3073
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,080
- Et approuvé un acte de vente.

3074
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,080
(rires)

3075
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,080
- Thera c'était une forte,

3076
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,080
district IV. >> And seconder.

3077
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:46,080
>> Eric Stork. District 7.

3078
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,080
>> All in favour?

3079
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:53,080
>> Thank you.

3080
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:55,080
- 14.1 Se prévaloir de l'option

3081
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,080
de renouvellement prévue au

3082
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,080
contrat intervenu avec MARIO C.

3083
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:58,080
ET FILS

3084
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,080
(9042-0845 QUÉBEC INC.)

3085
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,040
, pour l'année 2025, au montant

3086
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:01,040
de 80 160,57 $, taxes incluses,

3087
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,040
pour des travaux d'entretien

3088
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:03,040
horticole et de plantation à

3089
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,040
taux horaire. Ce contrat permet

3090
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,040
le maintien et la pérennité des

3091
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,040
aménagements constitués de

3092
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,040
vivaces et d'arbustes dans les

3093
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,040
parcs et espaces verts sur le

3094
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,040
territoire de la ville.

3095
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,040
>> 14.2 Exercise the renewal

3096
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,040
option provided for in the

3097
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:17,040
contract entered into with MARIO

3098
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,040
C. ET FILS, for the year 2025,

3099
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,040
in the amount of $ 452 723,13,

3100
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,040
taxes included for maintenance

3101
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,040
and mowing of green spaces and

3102
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,040
sports fields. This contract

3103
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,040
provides for the mowing of green

3104
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:31,040
spaces and sports fields on city

3105
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,040
grounds as well as the edges of

3106
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,040
Highway. The contract ensure

3107
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,040
that grass areas are kept clean

3108
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,040
by removing waste as well.

3109
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,040
- 14.3 Renouveler le contrat

3110
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,040
dans le cadre de l'appel

3111
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:45,040
d'offres regroupé n°

3112
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,040
2023-8115-50 pour la location

3113
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,040
des véhicules légers du Centre

3114
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,040
d'acquisitions gouvernementales

3115
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,040
à ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS CANADA,

3116
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,040
pour un montant total de 109

3117
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:57,040
638,25 $ taxes incluses, pour la

3118
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,040
deuxième période du 1 février

3119
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:03,000
2025 au 31 janvier 2026. >> 14.4

3120
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,000
Award a contract for the supply

3121
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,000
and the delivery of bulk

3122
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,000
materials for the year 2025, to

3123
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,000
MATÉRIAUX PAYSAGERS SAVARIA

3124
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:13,000
LTÉE, for a total amount of $

3125
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,000
59,354.37, taxes included. There

3126
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,000
is contract covers a supply and

3127
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,000
delivery of various mixes of

3128
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:20,000
potting soil for the maintenance

3129
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,000
of green spaces, sports fields,

3130
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:26,000
floral arrangements, annual

3131
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,000
flowers, perennials and shrubs

3132
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:28,000
and for tree planting in the

3133
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,000
city.

3134
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:32,000
- 14.5 Octroyer un contrat pour

3135
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,000
la fourniture et la livraison de

3136
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,000
pièces d'égout et d'aqueduc par

3137
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,000
lot pour l'année 2025, à

3138
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,000
ST-GERMAIN ÉGOUTS ET AQueDUCS

3139
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:42,000
INC. Pour les lots A, c'est,

3140
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,000
bien E, G et I ), WOSELEY CANADA

3141
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,000
INC.

3142
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:47,000
(Lots B, F et H)

3143
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,000
Et IRON4CITY pour le logis

3144
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,000
(---)

3145
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,000
pour un montant total de 402

3146
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,000
304,43 $, taxes incluses.

3147
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,000
(---)

3148
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,000
Chacun des lots a été octroyé au

3149
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,000
(---)

3150
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,060
conforme de ce lot. >> 14.6

3151
01:56:02,060 --> 01:56:03,060
Award a contract for the supply

3152
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:04,060
and the delivery of a new

3153
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:06,060
asphalt paver, to 9018-7980

3154
01:56:06,060 --> 01:56:10,060
QUÉBEC INC. Honour

3155
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:12,060
(INSTA-MIX)

3156
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:13,060
, for a total amount of $

3157
01:56:13,060 --> 01:56:14,060
275,940, taxes included. This

3158
01:56:14,060 --> 01:56:15,060
contract is for the replacement

3159
01:56:15,060 --> 01:56:17,060
of the current asphalt paving

3160
01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:18,060
machine, which has reached the

3161
01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:20,060
end of his youthful life.

3162
01:56:20,060 --> 01:56:24,060
- Pour 14,1 à 14,6 Do I have a

3163
01:56:24,060 --> 01:56:25,060
mover?

3164
01:56:25,060 --> 01:56:28,060
>> Paul Bissonnette. -- But

3165
01:56:28,060 --> 01:56:29,060
Bruno Tremblay. District 6. You

3166
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:31,060
>> Seconder?

3167
01:56:31,060 --> 01:56:32,060
>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

3168
01:56:32,060 --> 01:56:34,060
What

3169
01:56:34,060 --> 01:56:36,060
>> I am against 14.1. I am

3170
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:39,060
voting against 14.1 in 14.4. I

3171
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:41,060
support all the others.

3172
01:56:41,060 --> 01:56:45,060
>> Duly noted.

3173
01:56:46,060 --> 01:56:47,060
- 14.7 Octroyer un contrat pour

3174
01:56:47,060 --> 01:56:49,060
des travaux d'arboriculture à

3175
01:56:49,060 --> 01:56:50,060
proximité du réseau électrique

3176
01:56:50,060 --> 01:56:52,060
pour l'année 2025, à ÉMONDAGE ET

3177
01:56:52,060 --> 01:56:53,060
ABATTAGE DIONNE INC., Pour un

3178
01:56:53,060 --> 01:56:56,060
montant total de 95 314,28 $,

3179
01:56:56,060 --> 01:56:58,060
taxes incluses, avec les années

3180
01:56:58,060 --> 01:57:01,020
2026 et 2027 en option.

3181
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:02,020
Puisqu'il faut être accrédité

3182
01:57:02,020 --> 01:57:03,020
par Hydro-Québec pour travailler

3183
01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:05,020
à proximité du réseau, une

3184
01:57:05,020 --> 01:57:06,020
entreprise spécialisée dans ce

3185
01:57:06,020 --> 01:57:08,020
type de travaux fournira un

3186
01:57:08,020 --> 01:57:09,020
service efficace aux citoyens

3187
01:57:09,020 --> 01:57:11,020
est requis.

3188
01:57:11,020 --> 01:57:13,020
>> 14.8 Award a contract for the

3189
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:15,020
production and the delivery of

3190
01:57:15,020 --> 01:57:16,020
pre-assembled rain-water barrels

3191
01:57:16,020 --> 01:57:18,020
for the years 2025 and 2026, to

3192
01:57:18,020 --> 01:57:20,020
USD GLOBAL INC., For a total

3193
01:57:20,020 --> 01:57:21,020
amount of $ 43,644.51, taxes

3194
01:57:21,020 --> 01:57:24,020
included, with the years 2027

3195
01:57:24,020 --> 01:57:29,020
and 2028 in option. In response

3196
01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:30,020
to the interest shown by

3197
01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:31,020
residents in sustainable

3198
01:57:31,020 --> 01:57:33,020
development and water

3199
01:57:33,020 --> 01:57:34,020
conservation and in particular

3200
01:57:34,020 --> 01:57:36,020
in obtaining rainwater barrels,

3201
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:37,020
the city is committed to

3202
01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:38,020
supplying these barrels to

3203
01:57:38,020 --> 01:57:40,020
residents at a reduced price

3204
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:42,020
compared to the market.

3205
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:44,020
- 14.9 Approuver une

3206
01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:45,020
modification au contrat

3207
01:57:45,020 --> 01:57:46,020
intervenu avec LES SERVICES

3208
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:47,020
PIERRE GOULET INC., Pour la

3209
01:57:47,020 --> 01:57:48,020
détection de fuites d'eau sur le

3210
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:49,020
territoire de Pointe-Claire,

3211
01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:51,020
pour un montant de 1 149,75 $,

3212
01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:54,020
taxes incluses. Le but de cette

3213
01:57:54,020 --> 01:57:55,020
modification et de se conformer

3214
01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:56,020
à la demande de la direction de

3215
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:59,020
la gestion stratégique de l'eau

3216
01:57:59,020 --> 01:58:00,080
municipale, des Affaires

3217
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,080
municipales et de l'habitation

3218
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,080
pour écouter sur une base

3219
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,080
annuelle un minimum de 100

3220
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:05,080
boîtiers de services afin de

3221
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:06,080
trouver les fuites sur les

3222
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:07,080
branchement qui ne sont pas

3223
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,080
toujours détectables par

3224
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,080
l'écoute au poteau d'incendie.

3225
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,080
>> 14.10 Approve a change order

3226
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,080
to the contract within the

3227
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,080
framework of the group purchase

3228
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,080
no. 2023-8115-50 for the rental

3229
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,080
of light vehicles from the

3230
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,080
Government Acquisition Center

3231
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,080
often known as the

3232
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,080
(CAG)

3233
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,080
to ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS CANADA,

3234
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,080
for a total amount of $ 20

3235
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,080
786,13, including taxes, for the

3236
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,080
period from February 1, 2024, to

3237
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:36,080
January 31, 2025.

3238
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:38,080
- 14.11 Approuver une

3239
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:39,080
modification au contrat

3240
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:40,080
intervenu avec ZONE SST, pour

3241
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,080
les services d'un conseiller en

3242
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,080
santé et sécurité, pour un

3243
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,080
montant de 31 274,56 $, taxes

3244
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,080
incluses. Le service

3245
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:49,080
(---)

3246
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:50,080
est l'immeuble discontinue leurs

3247
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,080
efforts et projets en cours avec

3248
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,080
le même conseils en santé et

3249
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,080
sécurité pour combler le manque

3250
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,080
de personnel jusqu'à la fin août

3251
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,080
2025.

3252
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:03,040
>> 14.7 to 14.11, do I have a

3253
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:04,040
mover?

3254
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,040
>> Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

3255
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:07,040
>> And seconder?

3256
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,040
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5. To

3257
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,040
>> All in favour?

3258
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:13,040
>> 15.1 Award a contract for

3259
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:14,040
inspection and repair work on

3260
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:15,040
fire protection components for

3261
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,040
the years 2025 and 2026, to

3262
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,040
PRÉVENTION-INCENDIE SAFETY FIRST

3263
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,040
INC., For a total amount of $

3264
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,040
209,625.87, taxes included, with

3265
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:23,040
the years 2027, 2028 and 2029 in

3266
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:27,040
option.

3267
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,040
The equipment covered by this

3268
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,040
contract includes hydrants,

3269
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,040
sprinkler systems, fire pump,

3270
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:36,040
motors, sprinklers and fire

3271
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:40,040
detection systems.

3272
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:41,040
- 15.2 Approuver une

3273
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,040
modification au contrat

3274
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:44,040
intervenu avec CONSTRUCTION CPB

3275
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,040
INC., Pour des travaux

3276
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:46,040
d'agrandissement et

3277
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,040
réaménagement des Travaux

3278
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,040
Publics, pour un montant de 114

3279
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:51,040
600,99 $, taxes incluses. Les

3280
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,040
modifications incluent des

3281
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,040
travaux d'architecture,

3282
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:55,040
d'électricité, de structure et

3283
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,040
de mécanique.

3284
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,040
>> 16.1 Authorize the signing of

3285
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,000
a consent form with Bell Canada

3286
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,000
for the burial work of the Bell

3287
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,000
network near the intersection of

3288
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,000
Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore Road and

3289
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:06,000
Sainte-Anne Avenue. The purpose

3290
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,000
of this resolution is to

3291
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:10,000
authorize Mr. physiology, active

3292
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,000
admissible engineering

3293
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:12,000
department, to sign the consent

3294
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,000
notice prepared by Bell Canada

3295
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,000
for the burial of the Bell

3296
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,000
Service is located on the three

3297
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:17,000
Hydro Québec poles on behalf of

3298
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,000
the City of Pointe-Claire.

3299
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:25,000
- Pour 15,1 à 15,2, 16,1. Do I

3300
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,000
have a mover.

3301
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:28,000
>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

3302
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,000
>> And?

3303
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,000
- Je vais voter contre le 15,2.

3304
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,000
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

3305
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:35,000
J'aimerais avoir l'opportunité

3306
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:39,000
de m'expliquer. Depuis le début,

3307
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:43,000
ce bâtiment-là aux Travaux

3308
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:47,000
publics, j'ai voté contre

3309
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:48,000
systématiquement. On est à près

3310
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:52,000
de 2 millions de surplus avec...

3311
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,000
en approuvant ce montant-là. Et

3312
02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:01,060
si vous vous souvenez, à 10,4,

3313
02:01:01,060 --> 02:01:06,060
on a loue des montants parce que

3314
02:01:07,060 --> 02:01:08,060
(---)

3315
02:01:08,060 --> 02:01:11,060
des immeubles, Travaux publics

3316
02:01:11,060 --> 02:01:13,060
est déficitaire. C'est pour ça

3317
02:01:13,060 --> 02:01:18,060
que je vote contre. Merci.

3318
02:01:25,060 --> 02:01:26,060
- Les personnes qui sont

3319
02:01:26,060 --> 02:01:27,060
présentes peuvent s'adresser au

3320
02:01:27,060 --> 02:01:31,060
Conseil concernant les items

3321
02:01:31,060 --> 02:01:34,060
17.1 et 17.3. May address

3322
02:01:34,060 --> 02:01:39,060
Council Madam 17.1 and 17.3. On

3323
02:01:41,060 --> 02:01:44,060
continue. 17.1 Considérer une

3324
02:01:44,060 --> 02:01:45,060
demande de dérogation mineure

3325
02:01:45,060 --> 02:01:46,060
concernant la propriété située

3326
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:51,060
au 245,

3327
02:01:51,060 --> 02:01:53,060
... vous avez une question?

3328
02:01:53,060 --> 02:01:57,060
(rires)

3329
02:01:57,060 --> 02:01:58,060
>> I think you think you can

3330
02:01:58,060 --> 02:01:59,060
take the microphone away.

3331
02:01:59,060 --> 02:02:01,020
- Considérer une demande de

3332
02:02:01,020 --> 02:02:02,020
grâce

3333
02:02:02,020 --> 02:02:03,020
(---)

3334
02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:07,020
aux située au 245, boulevard

3335
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:08,020
Brunswick

3336
02:02:08,020 --> 02:02:09,020
(anciennement 1-243 Frontenac)

3337
02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:10,020
, afin de permettre 27 espaces

3338
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:11,020
de stationnement extérieurs

3339
02:02:11,020 --> 02:02:12,020
réservés aux visiteurs au lieu

3340
02:02:12,020 --> 02:02:15,020
du minimum requis de 43.

3341
02:02:15,020 --> 02:02:19,020
- Alors, pour 17,1. Do I have a

3342
02:02:19,020 --> 02:02:20,020
mover?

3343
02:02:20,020 --> 02:02:22,020
>> Eric Stork. District 7. What

3344
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:26,020
>> Seconder?

3345
02:02:26,020 --> 02:02:27,020
>> Brent Cowan. District 8.

3346
02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:28,020
>> All in favour?

3347
02:02:28,020 --> 02:02:32,020
>> Thank you.

3348
02:02:32,020 --> 02:02:33,020
>> 17.2 Consider a minor

3349
02:02:33,020 --> 02:02:34,020
exemption request concerning the

3350
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:35,020
property situated at 30

3351
02:02:35,020 --> 02:02:36,020
Hillcrest Avenue. It is to

3352
02:02:36,020 --> 02:02:37,020
authorize an extension which

3353
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:38,020
will result in the main building

3354
02:02:38,020 --> 02:02:39,020
having a lot coverage of 34%

3355
02:02:39,020 --> 02:02:41,020
rather than the maximum

3356
02:02:41,020 --> 02:02:45,020
permitted of 30%.

3357
02:02:45,020 --> 02:02:49,020
- Pour 17,2. Do I have a mover?

3358
02:02:49,020 --> 02:02:50,020
>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

3359
02:02:50,020 --> 02:02:52,020
>> And seconder?

3360
02:02:52,020 --> 02:02:53,020
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5.

3361
02:02:53,020 --> 02:02:56,020
>> All in favour?

3362
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:58,020
>> What's the language we are

3363
02:02:58,020 --> 02:03:03,080
voting on? I approve minor

3364
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:08,080
variance. I move it.

3365
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:11,080
>> And Cynthia second it. All in

3366
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,080
favour? All against?

3367
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:28,080
- 17.3 Considérer une demande de

3368
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:29,080
dérogation mineure concernant la

3369
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:30,080
propriété située au 2800,

3370
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:35,080
autoroute Transcanadienne

3371
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,080
(sur l'immeuble portant le

3372
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:39,080
numéro 2800A et ayant front

3373
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:40,080
sur la voie de service sud)

3374
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:41,080
. Pour permettre un appareil sur

3375
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,080
le toit du côté est du bâtiment

3376
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,080
qui n'est pas entièrement

3377
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,080
dissimulé de la vue d'une

3378
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:49,080
personne de 1 mètre 82 et de

3379
02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:50,080
grandeur, si tu es à la limite

3380
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:53,080
de propriété, en bordure de

3381
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:54,080
l'emprise publique, par un écran

3382
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:58,080
visuel intégré ou emménager au

3383
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,080
bâtiment.

3384
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:02,040
>> For 17.3, do I have a mover?

3385
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,040
>> Eric Stork. District 7. The

3386
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,040
>> And seconder?

3387
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:09,040
>> Brent Cowan to approve the

3388
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:10,040
minor exemption.

3389
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:15,040
>> All in favour?

3390
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:16,040
>> Excuse me, Mister Mayor,

3391
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:20,040
could we have the count that

3392
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,040
happened at 17.2. It was not

3393
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:23,040
clear.

3394
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,040
>> It was moved to approve the

3395
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:30,040
minor variance and voted

3396
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:33,040
against.

3397
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,040
>> Thank you. It just was not

3398
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,040
clear on my end. Thank you very

3399
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,040
much.

3400
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:39,040
>> 17.4 Consider the site

3401
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:40,040
planning and architectural

3402
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:41,040
integration programme plans with

3403
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,040
respect to the property situated

3404
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:44,040
at 245 Brunswick Boulevard

3405
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,040
(previously 1-243 Frontenac)

3406
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,040
it is a new construction.

3407
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:50,040
- 17.5 Considérer les plans

3408
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:51,040
d'implantation et d'intégration

3409
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:54,040
architecturale relatifs à la

3410
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:55,040
propriété située au 50, avenue

3411
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:57,040
du Golf. Pour des modifications,

3412
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,040
des plans déjà approuvées

3413
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:00,000
concernant la porte d'entrée et

3414
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,000
la porte de garage.

3415
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,000
>> 17.6 Consider the site

3416
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,000
planning and architectural

3417
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:06,000
integration programme plans with

3418
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,000
respect to the property situated

3419
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,000
at 30 Hillcrest Avenue. It is a

3420
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:12,000
Brandon exterior renovations.

3421
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:13,000
- 17.7 Considérer les plans

3422
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:14,000
d'implantation et d'intégration

3423
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:15,000
architecturale relatifs à la

3424
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,000
propriété située au 5, avenue

3425
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,000
Jervis Bay. Pour une démolition

3426
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,000
et une nouvelle construction.

3427
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,000
>> 17.8 Consider the site

3428
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:22,000
planning and architectural

3429
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:23,000
integration programme plans with

3430
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,000
respect to the property situated

3431
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:28,000
at 96 Montrose Avenue. It is the

3432
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,000
installation of solar panels.

3433
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:33,000
- 17.9 Considérer les plans

3434
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,000
d'implantation et d'intégration

3435
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:36,000
architecturale relatifs à la

3436
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,000
propriété située au 50, avenue

3437
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,000
Parkdale. Pour des rénovations à

3438
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,000
l'extérieur.

3439
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:41,000
>> 17.10 Consider the site

3440
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:42,000
planning and architectural

3441
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,000
integration programme plans with

3442
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:44,000
respect to the property situated

3443
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:47,000
at 20 Victoria Avenue. They are

3444
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,000
exterior renovations.

3445
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:52,000
- Pour 17,4, 17,10. Do I have a

3446
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:53,000
mover?

3447
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,000
>> Cynthia Homan. District 5.

3448
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:59,000
>> And seconder?

3449
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,060
>> Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

3450
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:02,060
>> All in favour?

3451
02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:05,060
- Je suis contre le 17,6 parce

3452
02:06:05,060 --> 02:06:10,060
que j'étais contre le 17,9.

3453
02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:16,060
- O.K..

3454
02:06:16,060 --> 02:06:19,060
- 17,11.

3455
02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:20,060
- 17.11 Adopter un premier

3456
02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:21,060
projet de résolution pour un

3457
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:22,060
projet particulier de

3458
02:06:22,060 --> 02:06:23,060
construction, de modification ou

3459
02:06:23,060 --> 02:06:26,060
d'occupation d'un immeuble car

3460
02:06:26,060 --> 02:06:27,060
(PPCMOI)

3461
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:29,060
au 27, avenue Salisbury

3462
02:06:29,060 --> 02:06:30,060
(anciennement le 222,

3463
02:06:30,060 --> 02:06:31,060
Autoroute 20)

3464
02:06:31,060 --> 02:06:32,060
autorisant la construction d'un

3465
02:06:32,060 --> 02:06:33,060
salon funéraire. En raison de

3466
02:06:33,060 --> 02:06:34,060
l'incendie, le bâtiment a perdu

3467
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:36,060
les droits acquis dont il

3468
02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:38,060
bénéficiait. La reconstruction

3469
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:39,060
d'un salon funéraire tel que

3470
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:41,060
présenté déroge aux dispositions

3471
02:06:41,060 --> 02:06:43,060
du Code villageois. La Ville

3472
02:06:43,060 --> 02:06:44,060
doit donc se prononcer sur une

3473
02:06:44,060 --> 02:06:47,060
demande effectuée en vertu du

3474
02:06:47,060 --> 02:06:51,060
Règlement PC 29 57 sur les

3475
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:52,060
(PPCMOI)

3476
02:06:52,060 --> 02:06:55,060
.

3477
02:06:55,060 --> 02:06:56,060
>> 17.12 Adopt a first draft

3478
02:06:56,060 --> 02:06:57,060
resolution for a Specific

3479
02:06:57,060 --> 02:06:58,060
Construction, Alteration or

3480
02:06:58,060 --> 02:07:01,020
Occupancy Proposal for an

3481
02:07:01,020 --> 02:07:02,020
Immovable

3482
02:07:02,020 --> 02:07:03,020
(SCAOPI)

3483
02:07:03,020 --> 02:07:06,020
at 1890 Des sources boulevard

3484
02:07:06,020 --> 02:07:07,020
authorizing the construction of

3485
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:08,020
a new building and the

3486
02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:09,020
redevelopment of the Manitoulin

3487
02:07:09,020 --> 02:07:10,020
Transport site, in several

3488
02:07:10,020 --> 02:07:12,020
phases. The company has

3489
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:15,020
submitted an application under

3490
02:07:15,020 --> 02:07:16,020
bylaw governing specific

3491
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:18,020
instructions, operational

3492
02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:20,020
occupancy proposals for removal

3493
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:21,020
in order to carry the project

3494
02:07:21,020 --> 02:07:24,020
the deviate from the zoning by

3495
02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:26,020
law for the purpose of expanding

3496
02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:30,020
in reorganizing its operation.

3497
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:31,020
- 17.13 Adopter un premier

3498
02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:32,020
projet de résolution pour un

3499
02:07:32,020 --> 02:07:33,020
projet particulier de

3500
02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:34,020
construction, de modification ou

3501
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:37,020
d'occupation d'un immeuble au

3502
02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:38,020
11-15, avenue Water's Edge

3503
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:39,020
autorisant la construction d'un

3504
02:07:39,020 --> 02:07:40,020
nouvel immeuble multifamilial de

3505
02:07:40,020 --> 02:07:42,020
3 étages comprenant 16 unités

3506
02:07:42,020 --> 02:07:44,020
d'habitation. La demande telle

3507
02:07:44,020 --> 02:07:46,020
que présentée fait l'objet d'une

3508
02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:48,020
demande de recommandations...

3509
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:50,020
fait l'objet d'une

3510
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:52,020
recommandation défavorable du

3511
02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:54,020
CCU et vous recommandé de

3512
02:07:54,020 --> 02:07:57,020
refuser le projet.

3513
02:07:57,020 --> 02:08:02,080
>> For 17.11, is 1712 and 17.13,

3514
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:04,080
and may I remind the Council

3515
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:08,080
that at 17.13, we are voting who

3516
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:11,080
votes in favour of refusing the

3517
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,080
project. We are voting -- if you

3518
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,080
are voting in the affirmative,

3519
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,080
it's to refuse the project.

3520
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:21,080
- Pour 7,11, 7,12, sept virgule

3521
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:26,080
Thera. Do I have a mover?

3522
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:27,080
>> Brent Cowan. District 8. Hi

3523
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:31,080
>> And seconder?

3524
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:32,080
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

3525
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:33,080
>> All in favour?

3526
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:36,080
- Monsieur Cousineau?

3527
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:41,080
- 17,12, 17,13.

3528
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:43,080
- Vous votez contre 17 virgule,

3529
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:46,080
12 17,13? Vous êtes en faveur de

3530
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:47,080
17,11?

3531
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:50,080
- Oui.

3532
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:51,080
>> Those against?

3533
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:56,080
- Alors, pour 17,11 contre

3534
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:58,080
17,12...

3535
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:01,040
- Juste un instant.

3536
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,040
- Je pense que je vais suggérer,

3537
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:06,040
pour être certaine de faire un

3538
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:07,040
point...

3539
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:12,040
- Au coeur, pour 7,11.

3540
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:17,040
All in favour? - 17,2.

3541
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:22,040
All in favour? - Monsieur

3542
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,040
Tremblay a voté contre 17,12,

3543
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,040
parfait.

3544
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:29,040
>> Those against? We are getting

3545
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:32,040
those against, it might help us.

3546
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:36,040
17,13. All those in favour of

3547
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,040
voting in refusing the project?

3548
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:40,040
Those against?

3549
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:41,040
- Vous êtes d'accord pour

3550
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,040
refuser le projet, Monsieur

3551
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:44,040
Cousineau?

3552
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:45,040
(inaudible)

3553
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:46,040
La manière que monsieur le maire

3554
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:47,040
l'a présenté.

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- Vous êtes d'accord pour

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refuser le projet?

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02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:52,040
- Oui. Il devrait prendre des

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médicaments avant de venir...

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- Monsieur Tremblay, vous êtes

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d'accord de refuser 17,13.

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>> Should be doing a thorough

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02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:03,000
time to make sure?

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02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,000
18.1 Award a contract for the

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supply and the delivery of

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02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,000
French and English library books

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for the year 2025, to LIVRES

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02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:12,000
BABAR INC., LIBRAIRIE CLIO,

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02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:14,000
PARAGRAPHE, LIBRAIRIE MONET,

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02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:17,000
LIBRAIRIE RAFFIN and LIBRAIRIE

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DE VERDUN, for a total amount of

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$ 295,000, taxes included. It is

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to meet the needs of its

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clientele in 2025, the library

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02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:25,000
will purchase books in French

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02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:26,000
and English for adults and

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02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,000
children from approved

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02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,000
bookstores in the Montréal area

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as prescribed by the act

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respecting the development of

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Québec firms in the book

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industry.

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- 18.2 Approuver une entente à

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intervenir avec Hockey West

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02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:38,000
Island Inc. Concernant un

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partenariat avec l'association

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02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:42,000
sportive. Cette entente, de même

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que celles mentionnées au point

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18,3 à 18,5 de l'ordre du jour,

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établit la répartition des

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responsables tes entre la ville

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et l'organisme afin d'assurer

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02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:56,000
l'habitation des normes en

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02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,000
vigueur et à la mise à la

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02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,060
disposition de l'organisme des

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installations et du matériel

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02:11:01,060 --> 02:11:03,060
nécessaire pour la réalisation

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de leur offre de services. Il

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s'est inscrits dans la poursuite

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02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:09,060
du

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02:11:09,060 --> 02:11:10,060
(---)

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02:11:10,060 --> 02:11:11,060
améliorant et spécifiant le

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soutien aux organismes

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02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:13,060
partenaires dans la réalisation

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02:11:13,060 --> 02:11:14,060
de leurs activités au bénéfice

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des citoyens de Pointe-Claire.

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>> 18.3 Approve an agreement to

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be entered into with

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02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:22,060
Pointe-Claire Ringette

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02:11:22,060 --> 02:11:23,060
Association regarding a

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partneship with the sports

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association.

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02:11:25,060 --> 02:11:26,060
- 18.4 Approuver une entente à

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02:11:26,060 --> 02:11:27,060
intervenir avec Club de Patinage

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02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:28,060
de Pointe-Claire concernant un

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02:11:28,060 --> 02:11:29,060
partenariat avec l'association

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02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:31,060
sportive.

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02:11:31,060 --> 02:11:32,060
>> 18.5 Approve an agreement to

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be entered into with Soccer

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02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:34,060
Pointe-Claire regarding a

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02:11:34,060 --> 02:11:35,060
partnership with the sports

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association.

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02:11:38,060 --> 02:11:42,060
>> For 18.1 to 18.5, do I have a

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mover?

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>> I move to approve them all.

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02:11:46,060 --> 02:11:47,060
Tara Stainforth. District 4. The

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>> And seconder?

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>> Paul Bissonnette. District 2.

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02:11:53,060 --> 02:11:58,060
>> All in favour?

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02:12:00,020 --> 02:12:01,020
- 18.6 Approuver une entente à

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intervenir avec la Commission

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02:12:02,020 --> 02:12:03,020
Scolaire Lester-B.-Pearson

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concernant l'utilisation d'une

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portion du terrain adjacent à la

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cour d'école

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(École secondaire Horizon)

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pour l'installation d'un jardin

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communautaire temporaire.

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Fluctuations temporaire d'une

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portion du terrain adjacent à la

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02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:18,020
cour d'école permettra

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l'installation d'un jardin

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communautaire et la tenue de

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certaines activités culturelles

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ou de loisirs, en lien avec la

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02:12:25,020 --> 02:12:26,020
présence de jardins

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communautaires.

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>> 18.7 Authorize a donation of

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a family open paddle membership

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02:12:30,020 --> 02:12:32,020
to the Teresa Dellar Palliative

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Care Residence. The residences

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02:12:34,020 --> 02:12:36,020
organizing a silent auction as a

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02:12:36,020 --> 02:12:37,020
fund-raiser for their annual

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02:12:37,020 --> 02:12:39,020
Valentine's Day ball on February

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14th, 2025. I have requested an

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02:12:40,020 --> 02:12:42,020
open panel membership as a

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02:12:42,020 --> 02:12:44,020
donation to raise funds for the

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02:12:44,020 --> 02:12:46,020
option.

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02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:49,020
>> I think we might separate

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02:12:49,020 --> 02:12:51,020
18.6 from the two subsequent

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because there will be votes

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against.

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>> You want to do 18.6 first?

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02:12:55,020 --> 02:12:57,020
>> You do not mind. For 18.6, do

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02:12:57,020 --> 02:13:02,080
I have a mover?

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02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:05,080
>> That is me. Bruno Tremblay.

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02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:06,080
District 6. For

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02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,080
>> Seconder?

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02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:09,080
>> Eric Stork. District 7.

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02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:14,080
>> All in favour? That was

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02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:16,080
against?

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02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:23,080
>> I just want to point out I do

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not have nothing against

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02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:25,080
community gardens, but with the

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information we received on this

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particular project, I cannot

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vote in favour. Thank you.

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02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:32,080
>> I'd also like to speak. I

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02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,080
agree. I am not against

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community gardens. Anyone that

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knows me, I love and fought for

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02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:39,080
community gardens for a long

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time, unfortunately, how this

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02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,080
was presented to us, I could not

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02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:43,080
vote consciously in favour until

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02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:45,080
some adjustments were done,

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02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,080
which was not how it turned out.

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That is why I voted against it.

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02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:53,080
- Pour appuyer monsieur

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02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:57,080
Bissonnette et madame Homan, il

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02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:59,080
nous manque beaucoup

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d'informations avant d'approuver

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ou des approuver.

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02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:15,040
>> Can we get a get a

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02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:16,040
clarification. I think it was

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02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,040
carried 4 to 3?

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02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:19,040
- 18.8 Autoriser la

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participation d'une employée au

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02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:23,040
1er Sommet de la pagaie organisé

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02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:24,040
par la Fédération internationale

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02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:26,040
de canoë devant se tenir du 27

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02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:29,040
février au 2 mars 2025 à

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Hangzhou, Chine.

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02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:33,040
(Aucune dépense ne sera

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02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:34,040
engagée par la ville pour

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02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:35,040
cette participation)

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02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:36,040
. La Fédération internationale

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02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:37,040
de canots et inviter madame

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02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:38,040
Émilie fournir, responsable du

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02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:40,040
club de canoë-kayak, à cet

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02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:41,040
événement. Les frais de

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02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,040
déplacement sont payés par la

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02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:44,040
Fédération internationale de

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02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:45,040
canots et. Madame fournaises

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02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:48,040
siège actuellement sur le Comité

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02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:49,040
de planche à pagaie, chapeauté

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02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:53,040
par cette fédération.

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02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:54,040
- Pour 17,8, et 17,8

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02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,040
(---)

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02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:59,040
. Do I have a mover?

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02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:01,000
>> Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

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02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:02,000
The

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02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,000
>> And seconder?

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02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:05,000
>> Eric Stork. District 7.

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02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:09,000
>> All in favour?

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02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:11,000
>> Pleasure.

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02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:13,000
>> Foreclosure. Do I have a

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02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,000
mover?

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02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:15,000
>> Tara Stainforth. District 4.

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02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,000
>> And seconder?

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02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:19,000
>> Bruno Tremblay. District 6.

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02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:21,000
>> All in favour? Welcome to

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02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:22,000
2025, folks. Merci beaucoup.