[0:39] - Mesdames et Messieurs, [0:40] bonsoir. Pour cette première [0:41] séance en 2025, les membres du [0:43] conseil, moi-même vous [0:45] souhaitons une très bonne année. [0:47] Qui a 2025 puisse apporter santé [0:50] et succès à vous et vos proches. [0:54] Nous espérons que le congé des [0:56] Fêtes vous a permis de faire le [0:58] plein d'énergie et d'avoir de [1:00] bons moments en famille. C'est [1:05] avec immense tristesse que nous [1:06] avons appris au début de l'année [1:09] le décès de l'ancien maire, [1:14] monsieur William Franklin [1:15] McMurchie. Une figure [1:16] emblématique de notre communauté [1:17] avec un héritage de services [1:20] publics inspirants. Nous lui [1:24] rendrons un premier hommage au [1:25] cours de cette séance. Encore [1:29] cette année, la ville propose [1:31] aux jeunes citoyens et [1:35] citoyennes [1:36] (---) [1:37] scolaires du trois au 7 mars, [1:38] les inscriptions sont déjà en [1:43] cours. Rendez-vous dès [1:46] maintenant sur la plate-forme [1:47] pour réserver votre place. Au [1:49] courant du mois de décembre, [1:51] c'est avec tristesse que nous [1:52] avons appris le décès de madame [1:56] Jocelyne Déziel. Madame Déziel a [1:59] travaillé de 82 à 2018 au [2:02] Service des affaires juridiques [2:04] et de graves de la Ville de [2:06] Pointe-Claire. Ses anciennes [2:08] collègues et les citoyens [2:09] pourront se souvenir de son [2:12] engagement et de son approche [2:17] attentionné envers personne. [2:18] Nous la remercions pour les 36 [2:21] années à la ville. Tous nos soit [2:23] de condamner Anse à sa famille [2:25] et ses proches. La programmation [2:30] hiver 2025, encore cette saison, [2:33] la ville propose une grande [2:36] variété d'activités et [2:38] d'événements culturels de [2:39] loisirs sportif. Visitez le site [2:42] Web de Pointe-Claire pour [2:44] découvrir les différentes [2:45] options qui s'offrent à vous. [2:50] Mettez dès maintenant la date du [2:53] samedi 1er février à votre [2:55] agenda pour le [2:56] (---) [2:57] venait en famille de profiter [2:58] des plaisirs des verts lors de [3:00] ce traditionnel événement qui se [3:02] tiendra au parc North vieux. [3:07] Alors que l'hiver s'installe [3:10] enfin, les amateurs de planeur [3:12] pourront se divertir dans les [3:14] différentes installations [3:15] sportives hivernales de la [3:17] ville. Vous pratiquez la [3:20] regrettée aimait les marches en [3:21] pleine nature? Les sentiers de [3:23] Terra-Cotta sont accessibles [3:25] toute l'année. Pour être plus [3:28] actifs et actives, les [3:30] nombreuses patinoires [3:31] extérieures sont les lieux tout [3:33] désigné pour patiner en famille [3:36] ou jouer une partie de hockey [3:37] entre amis. Dès que les [3:40] accumulations de neige le [3:42] permettront, les sentiers de ski [3:43] au club de golf Guilde et les [3:46] dix entiers hivernaux seront [3:48] aménagés dans différents parcs. [3:51] Surveillez les comptes médias [3:53] sociaux et les situaient de la [3:55] ville pour les annonces de leur [3:57] ouverture. Good evening, ladies [3:58] and gentlemen, for this first [4:01] meeting of 2025, the councillor [4:03] and I would like to wish you a [4:04] happy new year. May 2025 bring [4:07] happiness, health and success to [4:08] you and your loved ones. We hope [4:10] that the holiday season provided [4:11] you an opportunity to recharge [4:14] your batteries and spend some [4:15] quality time with your families. [4:18] As the new year began, we were [4:19] deeply saddened to learn that [4:21] former Mayor William Franklin [4:23] McMurchie had passed away. He [4:25] was an iconic figure in our [4:27] community and leaves an [4:28] inspiring legacy of public [4:29] service. We will be paying our [4:31] first tribute to him during this [4:33] meeting. Once again, this year, [4:36] the city is offering the youth [4:39] of March break camp from March [4:41] 3rd to March 7th. Registrations [4:43] are already underway. Visit the [4:46] looted platform now to reserve [4:47] your spot. In December, we were [4:52] very sorry to learn about the [4:54] passing of Mrs. Jocelyne Déziel [4:57] from 19 82 to 2018. Miss Déziel [5:01] work for the City of [5:03] Pointe-Claire. The City of [5:04] Pointe-Claire's legal affairs [5:05] department and clerk's office. [5:07] Former colleagues and citizens [5:08] will remember her for her [5:10] unwavering commitment, genuine [5:12] consideration she had for [5:14] everyone. We are grateful to [5:16] miss Déziel for 36 years of [5:18] service to the city. Our sincere [5:20] sympathies go out to her family [5:21] and friends. Winter programming [5:26] 2025. Once again, this season, [5:27] this city is offering a wide [5:28] variety of cultural, leisure and [5:30] sports activities and events. [5:32] Visit the Pointe-Claire website [5:33] to discover the various options [5:35] available to you. Save the date [5:37] of Saturday, February 1st for [5:39] winter carnival. Bring the whole [5:41] family to enjoy winter fun at [5:43] this traditional event in [5:44] Northview Park. As winter [5:47] finally sets in, outdoor [5:49] enthusiasts can enjoy the city's [5:51] various winter sports [5:52] facilities. If you enjoy [5:53] snowshoeing and walking in the [5:54] great outdoors, the terracotta [5:56] trails are accessible all year [5:59] round. For the more active [6:00] among, you skating rinks are the [6:04] perfect place to enjoy families [6:06] gaining out being or enjoy [6:08] hockey with friends. If there is [6:10] enough snow, and maybe there [6:11] might be after tonight, the [6:13] Beaconsfield ski trails and 12 [6:14] winter trails will be open in [6:15] all the various parts. Keep an [6:17] eye on the City social media [6:19] accounts and website to find out [6:20] more about when they will be [6:23] opening. Madame Thibault? [6:30] - Adoption de l'ordre du jour. [6:34] Adoption of the agenda. [6:35] >> For adoption of the general, [6:37] I have a mover? [6:41] >> District 6. The [6:42] >> Senator? [6:46] >> District 2. [6:47] >> All in favour? Probably the [6:49] most important part of this [6:52] meeting Le conseil municipal [6:53] rend hommage à monsieur William [6:55] Franklin McMurchie, décédé le [6:56] 1er janvier 2025 avant, en [7:01] Ontario. Ancien maire et figure [7:04] emblématique de notre [7:05] communauté, il laisse derrière [7:08] lui... un héritage durable et [7:10] une empreinte indélébile sur [7:12] notre ville. Ce soir, nous [7:15] exprimons notre reconnaissance [7:17] pour tout ce qu'il a fait pour [7:18] notre ville. Didier, travailleur [7:23] acharné et passionné, William [7:26] Franklin McMurchie a consacré [7:27] près de 57 ans de sa vie à [7:30] servir Pointe-Claire. Il a servi [7:33] comme conseiller municipal de 90 [7:36] à 98, avant d'être à lui maire [7:38] de la ville en 98 à 2001. [7:44] (---) [7:45] Le 2001 à 2005, lors des fusions [7:47] avec la Ville de Montréal et à [7:50] nouveau maire de 2005 à 2013, [7:54] devenant l'un des élus qui a [7:56] servi le plus longtemps dans [7:58] l'ouest de l'île de Montréal. [8:01] Sous sa direction, la ville a [8:03] connu des avancées [8:05] significatives dans les domaines [8:07] environnementaux, sociaux et [8:11] culturels. Mais en Saskatchewan, [8:13] monsieur McMurchie a déménagé à [8:15] Montréal en 56, où il a commencé [8:17] à travailler pour la Ville de [8:19] Pointe-Claire comme [8:20] (---) [8:21] . Ce premier emploi marquera le [8:24] début d'une carrière exemplaire [8:26] dans l'administration publique [8:28] est en politique municipale. En [8:31] tant que maire, il a soutenu des [8:34] initiatives telles que: la [8:38] réduction [8:39] (---) [8:40] dans la ville, la réglementation [8:41] des émissions des foyers à bois, [8:46] l'ouverture du premier écocentre [8:48] de l'ouest de l'île, elle a [8:49] diffusions de points clairs de [8:51] la Ville de Pointe-Claire. Il a [8:54] également été un fervent [8:55] protecteur des berges et du [8:57] Bordeleau de Pointe-Claire. En [9:00] investissant dans l'acquisition [9:01] et la protection de ces [9:03] écosystèmes fragiles, il permet [9:06] aux citoyens aujourd'hui et les [9:09] générations futures de profiter [9:11] d'espaces publics donnant sur le [9:14] Lac-Saint-Louis. Toutefois, il [9:16] est surtout connu pour avoir été [9:18] le fer de lance de la diffusion [9:20] de Pointe-Claire, de la Ville de [9:24] Montréal. En 2001, il a été élu [9:27] représentant de Pointe-Claire au [9:28] sein du nouveau conseil [9:30] municipal de Montréal en tant [9:32] que membre [9:34] (inaudible) [9:35] des citoyens de l'île de [9:37] Montréal de Gérald Tremblay. Un [9:40] parti politique qui a promis de [9:42] décentraliser la nouvelle [9:43] mégapole et de permettre aux [9:45] membres de son caucus de faire [9:49] (inaudible) [9:50] la diffusion, si jamais le [9:51] gouvernement provincial [9:53] autoriser les citoyens à voter [9:54] pour cette option lors du [9:56] référendum local. Cette province [10:00] n'a pas été... cette promesse [10:03] n'a pas été tenue. McMurchie a [10:06] été le premier conseiller [10:08] municipal à quitter le caucus de [10:10] Tremblay. Il a pris la tête de [10:12] la Compagnie de l'ouest de l'île [10:13] en faveur de la diffusion [10:16] municipale. Ce faisant, il a [10:19] fait preuve d'un véritable jeu [10:24] courage politique face à [10:25] l'ensemble de la [10:26] (---) [10:27] structure d'agglomération [10:30] injuste et un processus [10:33] référendaire tout aussi [10:34] inéquitable visant à maintenir [10:36] les banlieues fusionner à [10:39] l'intérieur de Montréal. Il a [10:40] pris cette décision à un moment [10:43] où la plupart de ses collègues [10:46] des autres banlieues avait soit [10:48] changé de position pour soutenir [10:49] la nouvelle mégapole, soit [10:51] choisi de rester neutre. [10:54] Aujourd'hui, le niveau [10:57] d'autonomie dont jouit [10:58] Pointe-Claire est en grande [11:00] partie dû à sa vision et à sa [11:05] direction. Au fil des échanges [11:07] que j'ai eues avec monsieur [11:09] McMurchie, j'ai toujours [11:12] apprécié sa sagesse, son sens de [11:14] l'humour et la facilité avec [11:16] laquelle les citoyens ordinaires [11:17] peuvent s'adresser à lui. Je lui [11:21] suis particulièrement [11:23] reconnaissant d'avoir soutenu [11:25] l'idée de donner au YMCA [11:28] nouvellement acquis le nom de [11:30] Lancet... ancienne mairesse, [11:33] Olive-Urquhart. Le rôle qu'il a [11:36] joué dans [11:37] (---) [11:38] l'histoire de notre vie, [11:39] j'espérais que nous pourrions [11:40] lui faire la distinction [11:43] particulière de lui donner un [11:44] parcours un bâtiment public en [11:45] son honneur de son vivant. Ma [11:50] préférence Halle et va toujours [11:52] au parc situé à l'angle des rues [11:55] Cartier et Lake Shore. Lorsque [12:00] j'ai invoqué cette idée avec [12:01] lui, il a insisté qu'il [12:04] n'accepterait cet honneur que si [12:05] le vote était unanime. Cela [12:09] témoigne de son caractère et du [12:11] niveau d'humilité que l'on [12:13] trouve rarement chez les hommes [12:15] politiques ou les personnes [12:17] politiques. J'espère que nous [12:18] pourrons arriver à cette [12:21] unanimité quant Pointe-Claire [12:22] lui doit littéralement son [12:25] existence et lui sera toujours [12:28] redevable. La Ville de [12:30] Pointe-Claire présente ses plus [12:31] sincères condoléances à la [12:33] famille et aux proches de [12:34] monsieur McMurchie. Nous sommes [12:36] reconnaissants pour tout ce [12:38] qu'il a accompli et nous nous [12:40] souviendrons toujours de son [12:42] dévouement envers notre [12:44] communauté. Municipal council [12:47] pays tribute to Mr. William [12:50] Franklin McMurchie who passed [12:51] away on January 1st, 2025 in [12:54] von, Ontario. Former mayor and a [12:57] cherished figure in our [12:58] community, leave behind a [12:59] lasting legacy and mark in our [13:02] city. Tonight we honour him for [13:04] all he has done for our city. [13:07] Dedicated, hardworking and [13:10] passionate, William McMurchie [13:13] devoted 26 years of his life to [13:14] serving Pointe-Claire. He served [13:15] as a city council from 1990 to [13:18] 1998 before being elected mayor [13:20] and serving from 1998 to 2001. [13:24] He would become borough mayor [13:25] from 2001 to 2005 during the [13:28] municipal mergers with the City [13:29] of Montréal and before regaining [13:32] his post as mayor of [13:34] Pointe-Claire from 2005 to 2013. [13:37] His tenure in office would make [13:39] him one of the longest serving [13:40] elected officials in the West [13:42] Island of Montréal. Under his [13:44] leadership, the City achieve [13:46] significant progress in [13:48] environmental, social and [13:49] cultural sectors. Born in [13:52] Saskatchewan, Mr. McMurchie [13:53] moved to Montréal the 1956 where [13:55] he began working for the City of [13:57] Pointe-Claire as a student with, [14:00] actually, all over. This first [14:03] job marked the start of an [14:04] exemplary career in public [14:07] administration and municipal [14:09] politics. As mayor, he led [14:10] initiatives such as reducing [14:12] speed limits in the city, [14:14] regulating wood burning [14:15] fireplace emissions, opening the [14:17] West Island's first ecocentre [14:21] and, of course, spearheading [14:23] Pointe-Claire is the merger from [14:24] the City of Montréal. He was [14:25] also devoted protector of the [14:28] shoreline and waterfronts of [14:30] Pointe-Claire by investing in [14:31] the acquisition and protection [14:33] of these delicate ecosystems, he [14:35] has ensured that today citizens [14:37] and future generations can enjoy [14:39] public spaces overlooking [14:43] Lac-Saint-Louis. Bill would be [14:44] best known for spearheading [14:45] Point cleanse the merger from [14:47] the City of Montréal. In 2001, [14:49] he was elected to represent [14:51] Pointe-Claire on the newly merge [14:52] Montréal City Council as a [14:54] member of Gerard Tremblay's [14:56] Montréal Island citizens unit. A [14:58] party which promised to [15:00] decentralize the new major city [15:02] and allow its caucus members to [15:04] campaign for the merger if ever [15:06] the provincial government [15:07] allowed citizens to vote for [15:08] that option in local [15:11] referendums. When that promise [15:12] was broken, Bill McMurchie was [15:15] the first City Council to lead [15:17] Trump's caucus and become a [15:18] leader of the West Island [15:19] campaign for the merger. In [15:21] doing so, he demonstrated [15:23] genuine political courage in the [15:25] face of the entire political or [15:27] provincial political [15:29] establishment, which created [15:30] both the unfair conglomeration [15:32] structure and an equally unfair [15:34] referendum process into keeping [15:35] merged suburbs within Montréal. [15:38] He also did this at a time when [15:39] most of his colleagues among the [15:41] former suburban mayors have [15:42] either changed positions to [15:44] support the new major city or [15:45] had chosen to remain neutral. [15:48] The level of autonomy that [15:50] Pointe-Claire enjoys today is in [15:52] large part due to Bill [15:55] McMurchie's vision and [15:56] leadership. In exchange as I had [15:57] with bill over the years, I [15:58] always appreciated his wisdom, [16:00] his sense of humour and how [16:02] easily approachable he was [16:04] toward ordinary citizens. I was [16:06] particularly grateful for his [16:08] support for naming the newly [16:09] acquired YMCA after former mayor [16:13] Olive-Urquhart. He actually [16:14] teared up when I spoke to him [16:15] about it, it was quite touching. [16:17] Given the important role he [16:18] played in our city's history, my [16:20] hope was that we could do have a [16:22] special honour of naming a [16:23] public park or building after [16:25] him during his lifetime. My [16:27] preference wasn't remain the [16:29] unnamed park at the corn of car [16:31] chain lakeshore. I think it [16:32] spoke to his character and a [16:35] level of humidity really found [16:38] among politicians. When I raised [16:39] the idea with, and he insisted [16:40] that he would only accept the [16:42] honour if the vote were [16:44] unanimous. I hope we can find [16:45] that unanimity. Pointe-Claire [16:48] may literally owe him its [16:50] existence and will always be in [16:52] his debt. The City of [16:53] Pointe-Claire extends its [16:55] deepest condolences to Mr. [16:57] McMurchie's family and loved [16:58] ones. We are profoundly grateful [17:00] for all he has accomplished and [17:01] will always remember his [17:03] unwavering dedication to our [17:05] community. Thank you. [17:07] >> 3.1, to approve the minutes [17:09] of the regular meeting of [17:10] December, third, 2024 in the [17:12] Special meetings of December, [17:13] 16th and December 18th, 2024. [17:16] >> 4.1 do I have a mover? [17:21] >> Eric Stork district 7. [17:22] >> Seconder? [17:24] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [17:26] >> All in favour? Question [17:30] period. Période des questions. [17:31] Je m'excuse, Madame Thibault. As [17:37] usual Pour laquelle période de [17:38] questions, vous avez été [17:39] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous [17:41] inscrire à la période des [17:42] questions afin de vous permettre [17:43] de demeurer à vos places jusqu'à [17:45] l'appel de votre nom. Nous [17:46] garderons 90 minutes pour la [17:48] période des questions. Une [17:50] personne à la fois au micro. [17:52] Nous vous remercions d'attendre [17:54] que le citoyen ait terminé de [17:56] poser sa question et que vous [17:58] soyez appelés avant de vous [18:00] lever pour poser votre question. [18:03] Nous accordons la priorité aux [18:05] résidents et aux résidentes de [18:08] Pointe-Claire. Les non-résidents [18:09] pourront poser leurs questions [18:10] par la suite, si le temps n'est [18:12] pas écouler. For question [18:16] period, you are greeted for the [18:18] period so you can remain seated [18:20] until your name is called. We [18:22] shall stick to the 90 minute [18:23] time limit for question period. [18:25] One person at a time at the [18:27] microphone. Thank you for [18:28] waiting for a citizen to finish [18:30] asking their question to be [18:31] called before you get up to ask [18:33] yours. We will give priority to [18:36] Pointe-Claire residents and [18:39] nonresidents can ask darkness [18:40] afterward if time has run out. [18:44] First person up [18:51] . [18:54] >> Hi, everyone. I would just [18:55] like to start off by saying [18:57] thank you to the City Council, [18:58] the mayor and the administration [19:00] for approving Athens Park last [19:03] year. I also saw that it has [19:04] been approved by the commission [19:07] of Québec. So I'm very happy [19:08] with that. My question is just, [19:11] is there an estimated timeline [19:13] for the next steps like the [19:16] public consultation process for [19:19] the land use an inauguration of [19:21] the park? [19:22] >> Very good questions. All of [19:24] them. [19:26] - Madame Verdun, est-ce qu'on a [19:27] un horaire pour le parc? [19:31] >> Estimated. [19:32] À peu près? >> We do not, you [19:34] have to do the signage so it [19:35] would probably be during the [19:37] [Inaudible] [19:38] >> With the integration of the [19:39] park be done before the [19:42] consultation process to decide [19:43] if there's going to be a [19:44] playground or anything else [19:45] added like that? [19:46] >> That is what we have to [19:47] decide with the City Council [19:48] but, yes we can do the [19:50] inauguration of the name of the [19:53] park. [19:54] >> Perfect. [19:55] >> The name is solid. [19:56] >> Thank you. Just a second [19:58] question, I was also reading the [20:01] 2023 parks and green spaces [20:03] report that Pointe-Claire [20:04] produced last year. I saw the [20:08] park at the entrance of the [20:09] village was referred to as class [20:13] Cartier. [20:14] >> That is the name we all call [20:15] it. [20:16] >> I did not see an official [20:17] name published. [20:18] >> It's not. [20:19] >> Is there a reason for that? [20:20] >> It has not been named yet. [20:21] The park has not been named yet, [20:23] officially. Which is what I was [20:25] proposing. One of my proposed -- [20:28] propositions for my speech in [20:29] Mr. McMurchie. [20:30] >> Thank you. [20:31] >> Thank you. I am. [20:42] Ryan Derek. [20:43] >> Good evening. I did not know [20:45] how this process works. I am 6.1 [20:48] on the agenda. It's hard to ask [20:49] a question about something that [20:51] we have not talked about yet. [20:53] >> I believe Mr. Derek gets an [21:00] opportunity 6.1? No? Go ahead. [21:04] >> 6.1. I am 191 Lakeshore, of [21:05] easy I'm here to see if there is [21:07] a decision on my house but I [21:08] guess we are going to have to [21:09] sit and wait until we hear about [21:11] 6.1. It's hard to ask questions [21:13] about something that we cannot [21:14] -- [21:15] >> We have not yet voted on it. [21:16] That is correct. [21:20] >> It's hard to argue it because [21:21] I have contested the original [21:24] demolition decision so we do not [21:25] know where we are at so I do not [21:27] know what to argue about. [21:28] >> Do you want to make an [21:29] impassioned plea? [21:30] [Laughter] [21:32] >> Sure. I live in that house, I [21:34] know the first demolition [21:36] committee that they felt that [21:37] the house was not deemed in that [21:40] enough shape to be demolished [21:42] but I believe the report was [21:45] done -- was not done properly. [21:46] They did not take into the [21:48] proper consideration. They also [21:49] inspected the house for 1963 in [21:51] the middle of summer where the [21:52] whole conditions in the winter [21:54] changed. I can tell you my [21:55] bedroom is minus five and this [21:58] house is 63 years old. For me to [22:00] take a house and unfortunately [22:05] tearing down to build a new one, [22:06] which is almost the same look as [22:07] the new neighbourhood we have [22:09] proposed. The cost of that to [22:12] doing the renovations to bring [22:13] the same thing that is going to [22:14] cost me double. I can give you [22:17] one estimation. On the general [22:19] contractor, I know the [22:20] estimation to do my house. If I [22:21] build a house into a new house [22:22] is gonna be 1 million dollars. [22:24] To renovate its gonna cost me $2 [22:26] million and going to take me [22:28] twice, if not three years, [22:29] because I do not have to fight [22:30] all. Have 1 million dollars to [22:31] the house. I'm going to disturb [22:33] the whole neighbourhood because [22:34] it takes three years in my [22:36] current house is in poaching on [22:38] the property lines and stuff [22:39] like that. I do not think there [22:42] is a lot of things to consider [22:44] besides walking around my house [22:45] and saying that it's in good [22:48] condition. When I moved into the [22:49] house, it was from 1963 inside [22:51] and a half or a young children [22:53] and it was not safe to live in [22:55] that style house. Since I'm a [22:57] contractor, I spend my weekends [22:58] and stuff renovating the [23:00] bathroom and stuff like that to [23:01] bring it up to standard some in [23:02] my children get hurt. The fact [23:04] that, yes, the house kind of [23:06] looks in good shape cosmetics, [23:07] there's tons of structural [23:08] problems and electrical problems [23:09] that you cannot see unless you [23:11] have ex revision or you open up [23:12] the walls like I did. It's [23:15] really hard to fight something [23:17] that you cannot talk about. [23:18] >> Well spoken, Mr. Derek. Thank [23:21] you. [23:22] >> This is my attorney that is [23:23] with me. [23:25] >> You could sit down and she [23:27] can take over, if you'd like. [23:29] >> Hi, sorry. Thank you, I did [23:31] not mean to interrupt him but I [23:32] just feel like he forgot to [23:34] mention an important point is [23:36] that the previous decision from [23:38] -- I read the decision of the [23:42] committee. It seems it has been [23:44] based solely on a report that [23:46] asked the complete cost of the [23:49] renovation $64,000. With all due [23:51] respect, that is completely [23:53] unrealistic. We have reports [23:54] that say otherwise. Even the [23:59] inspection before numbers, a [24:01] very expensive list of things [24:02] that need to do and it seems to [24:05] me that the decision was fully [24:07] based on that, on the 64,000 [24:09] dollar cost of reconstruction [24:11] and considering the reports [24:14] contradict that report, I think [24:15] the committees could take that [24:16] into consideration as well. At [24:18] the end of the day, all the [24:21] other requirements that we find [24:23] in the bylaw, respect to the [24:28] demolition of the movable, have [24:30] been met. I think that is the [24:32] only point that we need to take [24:34] into consideration right now. In [24:36] the report that says that the [24:38] cost of demolition is only [24:41] $64,000. He says, and I [24:43] mentioned that in the appeal [24:44] that we filed and I do not know [24:47] if anyone had a chance to review [24:49] it but we do mention that he [24:51] mentioned several times that [24:53] supplemental reports and [24:55] analysis should be done in order [24:56] to compliment this report [24:58] because it is not complete so I [24:59] would like for the committee to [25:02] take that into consideration as [25:03] well. [25:04] >> Thank you. [25:11] Philippe Pare. [25:14] >> Good afternoon. My question [25:16] is as follows, we are currently [25:18] in 2025 and we are getting our [25:21] to run your Mitchell stations [25:22] later this year and our new bus [25:28] system. Light metro, light rail, [25:31] something. My question is as [25:33] follows, both the Saint-Jean [25:35] Industry Highway 40 crossings [25:37] are still kind of extremely [25:39] dangerous for pedestrians and [25:41] cyclists to cross due to the [25:43] sidewalks and all the car [25:45] traffic. Can we please get [25:47] somewhat of an update for the [25:50] plan pedestrian crossing at St. [25:52] John's and the restructuring [25:53] that is going to be happening on [25:58] Des Sources four be able to [25:59] cross Highway 40 safely? [26:03] >> Madame Vendôme do we have [26:05] plans for improvement of the [26:10] crossings? [26:11] En avant des stations de renom? [26:13] >> That we have in the CIP, we [26:15] have a project with the and PQ. [26:18] I do not have the timeline, [26:21] unfortunately, but it's supposed [26:22] to be a little bit after that [26:25] the REM station is open but we [26:26] are working on it. [26:28] >> Thank you. For my sub [26:29] question, if it's possible, -- [26:33] >> Just intervene, I do not mean [26:34] to interrupt, there is a [26:35] potential overpass. [26:37] >> I know there is some -- [26:39] >> A pedestrian bicycle [26:41] overpass, potentially. If all [26:43] goes well, knock on wood, there [26:44] is potential. [26:46] >> For my second question, can [26:49] we please ask you as you are a [26:51] member of the Anglo council [26:53] meeting in Montréal, to please [26:56] ask the STM to get the ball [26:59] rolling so we actually know how [27:01] our bus network will be [27:02] affected. They have been silent [27:03] and silent and silent and [27:06] nothing. [27:07] >> They have actually got their [27:08] plans ready and they have [27:09] actually started proposing them [27:11] to us. We are meeting with that [27:13] as we speak. [27:15] >> Thank you very much. [27:16] >> And they are interesting [27:18] Claude. Pat McGee. [27:26] >> Hello, I'm Patrick McGee the [27:29] architect filed for 191. I don't [27:33] have a whole lot but to make [27:34] sure that the demolition [27:36] committee read the engineers [27:38] report, my report as well as the [27:41] independent contractors report [27:42] on the costing analysis of [27:44] bringing the home up to current [27:47] standards. I do not believe they [27:48] have read all the doctors prior [27:50] to the last meeting. I want to [27:52] know if they have prior to the [27:53] decision that has been made [27:56] first. [27:57] >> I cannot answer that. Anybody [27:59] on the demolition committee [28:00] choose to answer that? [28:03] >> Yes, yes and yes? [28:06] >> Thank you Mr. McGee. Linda [28:13] Dumas. [28:17] [Inaudible] [28:30] We had it once and [28:32] [Inaudible] [28:38] >> I personally love podiums [28:42] myself. [28:43] >> When your legs are wobbly. [28:45] Good evening. Once again, I am [28:53] here always regarding -- [28:56] >> Madam Dumas, if I can just [28:59] ask you speaking to the [29:00] microphone. [29:01] >> I'm sorry. Is it working? [29:02] >> Yes. [29:03] >> Regarding the forest, the [29:05] force being the Fairview forest, [29:07] but when one is here for the [29:10] Fairview forest, we are here for [29:13] biodiversity, we are here for to [29:19] try to make sure that the lack [29:23] of this biodiversity does not [29:25] become less. My preamble but I [29:32] will be asking Mr. Eric Stork [29:36] and Mr. Brent Cowan a question. [29:39] I, in 2018, I moved here, there [29:41] was the election when I found [29:44] out about the forest. I have had [29:47] a sign saved the first ever [29:50] since but it was only two years [29:53] ago, exactly, January 2023, that [29:55] I first came to a council [29:57] meeting ever in my life and I [29:59] have since found out that a few [30:01] other people are not necessarily [30:05] long council meeting goers or [30:12] speakers. This entity, this [30:18] longer, I am now calling it a [30:21] hospital, the forest is a [30:24] hospital. Recently there has [30:25] been doctors who have been [30:28] prescribing that people -- [30:31] giving them a prescription to [30:33] visit a forced. It's new in the [30:35] news. I think it was from [30:37] Ontario in the last number of [30:38] weeks. When I first came in 2023 [30:42] to a special council meeting [30:45] this was to get Madam Verdon to [30:51] get to be able to speak to [30:53] Cadillac Fairview. Cadillac [30:58] Fairview I certainly want to say [31:00] is being -- has been a [31:04] decades-long contributor to our [31:07] society. The corporation would [31:08] not be here if not profitable. [31:13] One, almost never mentions the [31:14] name Cadillac Fairview and even [31:17] less the Ontario teachers [31:19] pension plan. With that [31:24] preamble, I wish to talk a lot [31:26] more about buying this. I have [31:31] sent letters a year and a half [31:33] ago to the OTTP saying let's [31:39] negotiate this. You are [31:41] educators, you are informed [31:42] people, why on earth in the 24 [31:45] century something so sustainable [31:50] for the human species. I have [31:53] recently come to judge that we [31:55] are not in a -- the planet is [32:01] not in crisis, the climate is [32:03] not in crisis, it's the human [32:05] species, the plant species, the [32:07] animal species. We are in [32:09] crisis. Of course, most of us [32:12] know that the abundance of what [32:18] mankind, remnants of mankind did [32:19] for over century has accelerated [32:22] the situation that we are all in [32:25] and even those who don't read [32:28] about it certainly, if they put [32:30] on the television or a friend or [32:34] someone, an acquaintance, will [32:35] say oh my goodness have you [32:37] heard about the latest disaster? [32:41] Disasters will always happen. [32:42] They always have through the [32:46] ages but it is over 40 years [32:50] more well documented, worldwide [32:53] by collaboration of scientists [32:57] who forward their data that [33:02] mankind and plants and animals [33:06] are in a very, very tenacious [33:11] situation. In the October 9th [33:18] 1510 west, Mr. Eric Stork, you [33:20] were quoted and you are asking [33:23] and I heard maybe in December [33:26] that you wish to have a formal [33:29] evaluation of this forest. With [33:36] all the information that is so [33:43] apparent, more than a parent, it [33:45] is logical, it is objective. [33:49] Those people who are passionate [33:51] about this, they bring their [33:52] passion because of the logic and [33:54] the objectivity of this [33:59] existential crisis that we are [34:01] faced with. I would like to [34:04] know, Mr. Stork, why your [34:07] interest has come about only [34:09] three years in to this four-year [34:16] mandate? Why you have come up [34:20] with this now so late and never [34:26] having spoken about really [34:29] coming up ideas to keep this [34:33] forest alive. [34:36] >> I will answer. First, it [34:39] sounds like a very politically [34:41] motivated question. [34:42] >> It is not. It is absolutely [34:45] not. [34:46] >> May I speak? [34:47] >> Well, yes, first of all, it's [34:48] not political. [34:49] >> Perfect. My position on the [34:50] Fairview force has not changed [34:51] since day one. Not since day [34:54] one. Anybody who lives in my [34:55] district, who I've spoken to, my [34:57] position has not changed. It [34:59] came about because at 1.7 [35:01] citizens reached out to me. [35:03] She's not in the room today. We [35:05] were working an email so I had [35:06] to address it. I came out with [35:08] somewhat of a formal position on [35:10] this and that was my position. [35:11] My position has not changed from [35:12] day one. It is a citizen's [35:17] decision. We have to have the [35:18] facts and we have to make this [35:20] decision together as a city. My [35:23] position has not changed and it [35:24] came out of necessity to finally [35:27] take the elephant out of the [35:28] room in terms of cost, [35:31] environment, impact, all those [35:33] variables have to be put [35:35] together, digested, something [35:38] said in a decision made because [35:39] it was going on for too long and [35:40] I took the courage to come out [35:42] and actually take that position. [35:45] >> Am I able to speak? [35:49] >> It's not a debate. Do you [35:51] have a subsequent question for [35:54] Council Brent Cowan? Madame [35:56] Dumas, you are allowed to [35:58] question. [35:59] >> Can I reply? I cannot reply? [36:01] >> You can simply reply but not [36:03] address your subsequent question [36:05] would have to be if you have a [36:07] follow-up question. You [36:10] suggested one to Senator count [36:12] as well. If you use the [36:13] subsequent question it could be [36:14] to Councillor Stork but you lose [36:16] the opportunity to question [36:18] Councillor Cowan. [36:19] >> It's not a subsequent [36:21] question. You are deeming that [36:22] I'm up here politically. I am [36:25] not. You wonder if you are still [36:29] wondering in the 21st century [36:30] where have you been? Do you [36:31] read? Do you study? Do you [36:34] listen? [36:35] >> Madame Dumas, these are all [36:37] questions. [36:38] >> Fine. I find it very, very [36:39] weak. That is not a question. [36:40] Extremely weak. [36:41] >> You have a subsequent [36:43] question? [36:44] >> Yes. A bit of a preamble. The [36:49] force needs to be paid for. [36:53] Perhaps we have to convince [36:54] Cadillac Fairview that it is -- [37:00] it is in their best interest in [37:03] their own families interest and [37:05] their progeny, et cetera, et [37:07] cetera and our progeny to save [37:10] what we have around us [37:13] especially it's not the golf [37:17] course and the golf course will [37:21] probably or Beaconsfield golf [37:22] course will probably come up one [37:25] day but it is a much larger [37:26] green space and it is not [37:30] surrounded by a stranglehold of [37:34] the island in pyramid billet-y. [37:37] Mr. Cowan, in that October 9th [37:43] 1510 west, you actually had an [37:45] entire letter to the editor. I [37:48] believe you ended it with « [37:51] let's sum up the courage and the [37:54] content of it » was paying for [37:58] the forest. 20 million here, 10 [38:01] million there, et cetera, et [38:03] cetera. I am wondering why, [38:08] talking about elephants in the [38:09] room, Cadillac Fairview being [38:12] one, paying for this forest. In [38:14] needs to be paid for, it is [38:15] owned by somebody but there are [38:20] ways of achieving it and [38:23] certainly not dialoguing with [38:24] the opponent. Cadillac Fairview [38:27] is not the enemy, it is provided [38:30] so much to this community over [38:32] so many decades and some people [38:36] call it Mecca I'm wondering why [38:42] instead of only question or [38:45] statements, Mr. Cowan, why don't [38:48] you have some ideas, as I do, [38:52] and I believe Madam Tara [38:56] Stainforth has mentioned to me [38:58] just in passing that she has had [39:00] ideas. Why is that never [39:02] discussed and could you -- I [39:05] have ideas. What are your ideas [39:08] for raising this money given [39:11] that entire hospital complex all [39:14] raised by fundraising? I will [39:17] just and, I realize, the forest [39:21] is a hospital. It is already [39:23] built. We do not have to wait [39:24] five or ten years for it. We [39:27] just have to pay for it. Thank [39:30] you. [39:31] >> Thank you for the question. I [39:32] think in that same letter that I [39:35] did actually make a proposition [39:38] and where I could see money come [39:40] from. I said I thought [39:41] Pointe-Claire could afford $10 [39:43] million. I said I believe there [39:45] was a federal government program [39:47] to support this kind of [39:49] initiative. I cannot remember if [39:50] it was ten or $20 million or [39:52] something. I figured that the [39:54] Agglo could match that will [39:56] Pointe-Claire was putting in and [39:57] I figured that the province of [39:59] Québec could put in the balance. [40:00] I wrote that on the letter. [40:02] There is a concept of where the [40:05] money could possibly come from. [40:07] The challenge would be to try to [40:10] convince them and those [40:12] challenges are not in [40:15] significant. That does not mean [40:16] that they are insurmountable. [40:18] One of the letter was to [40:21] actually say two things. One, [40:23] you have to pay for it. I do not [40:25] see any alternative to preserve [40:27] the land in the entirety and [40:29] number two, I came up with what [40:31] I could see is a way to fairly [40:34] share the cost and then we could [40:37] -- the city could possibly [40:39] organize, the mayor could [40:40] possibly organize then to [40:42] approach these levels of [40:43] government and build up the [40:44] support. As far as I know. We [40:46] have done very little, the city [40:48] has done very little. That is [40:51] the Mayor's responsibility to [40:52] follow up on that and what I [40:55] know that we have done is we [40:57] sent a letter to Valérie Plante. [40:59] I do not think she responded to [41:00] it. I know that there was a [41:02] meeting with the metropolitan [41:06] community of Montréal and they [41:07] were very not warm to the idea [41:08] of doing anything with the [41:10] force. These are the challenges. [41:15] I acknowledge them. [41:16] >> If we start the process, we [41:18] can get there. Thank you. [41:21] >> Just to clarify, I did speak [41:25] to the CMM and the response was [41:30] negative. CMM is the [41:32] organization in the Montréal [41:33] administration that is [41:34] responsible for the acquisition. [41:35] The question was asked to the [41:36] right authorities and was [41:38] actually done. [41:39] >> When was that done? [41:42] >> Two years ago. A year and a [41:45] half, two years ago. [41:46] >> I understand they have spent [41:47] -- [41:48] >> One of the first things I did [41:49] it was probably six months in, [41:51] nine months in. Some around [41:52] there that we got an answer. I [41:54] was quite disappointed. I remain [41:57] quite disappointed with the [41:59] administration and it has some [42:00] bearing on how I perceive them [42:03] because they have uttered a [42:06] program that I felt they did not [42:08] substantiate in that response. [42:10] That is my feeling on that. I [42:11] was not pleased with that [42:12] decision. [42:13] >> I think they have run very [42:17] low saving Hypertec and [42:19] extremely other important and we [42:20] are just as important because we [42:22] are all part of that [42:25] biodiversity. [42:26] >> To speak to the elephant in [42:27] the room, it's hard to put a [42:29] price on survival. For me, we [42:31] have spent more than 10 million [42:33] on the Olive-Urquhart Sports [42:37] facility. We have spent $21 on [42:39] our public works. All of which I [42:40] agree with. 10 million seems to [42:43] be a pittance for our survival. [42:46] I'm just putting in the grand [42:48] scheme of things. That is the [42:49] Mayor's interpretation of it. [42:54] Ralph? [43:00] Would you like to speak to some [43:01] of the questions? [43:03] >> I just wanted to say that the [43:06] elephant is not in the room, [43:08] it's in the parking. It's a very [43:10] big elephant -- come closer. [43:20] It's in court. You can do any [43:24] kind of gestures. [43:27] >> We are not going to have an [43:28] exchange from the audience. We [43:30] do not have exchanges from the [43:33] audience. [43:34] >> It's in court. Yesterday it [43:36] was going to the court of [43:39] Québec. It has been delayed [43:44] again. We are in this situation, [43:48] both sides of this conundrum, I [43:53] will say it in French Les deux [43:56] côtés sont à la merci de la [43:59] Cour. Vous avez choisi de donner [44:04] la décision à un autre parti. [44:09] Alors, on peut spéculer. Mais [44:13] c'est un jeu, un troisième parti [44:15] qui va décider, regrettablement. [44:19] Vous pouvez faire tous les [44:21] signes de noms que vous voulez, [44:24] c'est ça. Merci. [44:27] >> Just as a preface, Mr. Claude [44:30] Cousineau, I think you have a [44:31] look at Bill 39 and what St. [44:34] Bruno did, you will see there is [44:35] actually very easy way out of [44:36] that. It's not easy, it still [44:37] takes time, of course but there [44:38] is a method out of that and you [44:40] have forgotten to consider that. [44:44] Good evening. [44:46] >> Please, and light me. [44:49] >> It's been in the press. I am [44:52] sure the city officials can tell [44:53] you about Bill 39 allows you to, [44:57] regardless of previous ownership [44:59] or other cases, legal cases [45:01] allows you to circumvent that [45:03] and rate new bylaws for [45:06] ecologically sensitive areas. [45:07] >> Again, last comment on this, [45:10] a judge is going to tell us what [45:11] to do. [45:12] >> The judge already has. Good [45:17] evening, folks, tonight I want [45:18] to ask you again about Fairview [45:21] forest but I want to focus on [45:23] the new PMAD. The revised one of [45:32] the CMM. I'm curious to see what [45:34] the City appreciates the greater [45:36] obligation under the new PMAD [45:42] and considering its usage in [45:43] obligations under it. The [45:46] organization I am a member of, [45:48] say Fairview forest, and also [45:49] Cadillac Fairview, both made [45:52] submissions to the CMM and [45:55] participated in its recent [45:57] consultation on the PMAD [45:59] revised. I want to first say I [46:02] am very, very thankful to the [46:05] Pointe-Claire City Councillors [46:07] who wrote favourable comments on [46:11] the CMM website advocating [46:13] saving Fairview forest and [46:16] supporting our submission. Was [46:17] profoundly appreciated. I want [46:19] to address the revised PMAD and [46:22] it's greater assertion of that [46:25] bylaw. The agglomerations, the [46:27] regions and the municipalities [46:31] must, must and here to the PMAD. [46:35] And implemented faithfully. It [46:38] is not a fuzzy guideline anymore [46:41] but it's an explicit requirement [46:43] of Pointe-Claire just like every [46:46] other member of the CMM. The [46:51] guidelines, objectives and [46:54] criteria of the PMAD revised are [46:58] inscribed as being required by [47:01] law in the perspective of [47:03] sustainable development and also [47:06] aim, overall, to contribute to [47:07] the fight against an adaptation [47:09] of climate change and the [47:11] protection of biodiversity. All [47:13] things, of course, that Fairview [47:15] forest does. I want to quote the [47:20] PMAD revised exactly. Sorry, [47:24] it's not exactly because I did a [47:26] Google translation. [47:29] [Laughter] [47:30] A quote, « the compliance [47:32] process provided for by the and [47:38] shows that metropolitan planning [47:40] is implemented in regional [47:41] planning tools and a local [47:45] example municipal planning [47:47] tools. The SAD's or the RCM's [47:56] must comply with the PMAD. They [48:02] provide this metropolitan plan [48:04] must be reviewed periodically [48:07] ». And I quote. The PMAD goes [48:09] on to say, in terms of the [48:11] environment, the revised PMAD [48:13] retains the choices of the first [48:15] PMAD and reinforces them [48:18] particularly with regard to the [48:19] number one issue that it's in [48:23] particularly in regard to his [48:24] number one, increasing the [48:26] target for the protection and [48:28] conservation of woods of [48:31] metropolitan interest. Forest, [48:34] corridors and natural [48:37] environments to 30% of the [48:38] metropolitan territory by 2046 [48:42] in line with the commitments [48:43] made that the 15th Congress of [48:45] the party, example, COP15. It [48:51] has been explicitly covered all [48:53] the criteria Fairview forest [48:55] meets. I know that of course [48:57] Fairview forest issues are under [48:59] study. I am thankful for that. [49:00] That is great. However, this [49:04] PMAD now is very clear. It [49:08] demands compliance. And now [49:12] supersedes many of the concerns [49:13] and details that we get muddled [49:15] up in and struggle with. My [49:20] question for Pointe-Claire City [49:22] Council is very simply, will the [49:24] city comply with its obligations [49:27] and then the newly revised PMAD? [49:29] We'll use the tools in [49:31] advantages given by the [49:32] government of Québec, la 39, and [49:36] the CMM with its freeze on [49:38] Fairview for specifically and [49:40] the revised PMAD and save the [49:43] Fairview forest because it's [49:45] actually obliged to? That's it. [49:50] >> My answer is, I hope so. I [49:52] certainly -- I certainly would [49:54] like to. Yes? [50:00] >> By the way, your analysis is [50:02] very good. It's basically what [50:04] the challenges are. If you look [50:05] at the PMAD I think it's trying [50:09] to blow and stop at the same [50:11] time. If you look at the tree [50:13] canopy, the 30%, listen I'm [50:15] offer tree canopy all across [50:17] Montréal. You talk about [50:18] different areas that can be [50:20] affected but I've actually sent [50:21] an email and I still have not [50:22] gotten a reply to what that 30% [50:24] is because based upon what they [50:26] want to do in terms of [50:28] densification, in terms of [50:30] housing and put that 30% on top [50:32] of it, mathematically, when I [50:35] look at it, how it can be [50:38] achieved it's counter intuitive. [50:41] It knocks its own head together. [50:43] I ask a question, what is the [50:45] 30% mean? I have not got an [50:47] answer yet. If you digging [50:48] deeper, you will see certain [50:49] elements or it says they do not [50:52] know where it's deemed as [50:53] private, public. Could be [50:55] parking lots and shopping [50:58] centres. It could be a backyard. [50:59] They have not given a pure [51:01] definition of what that 30% is. [51:02] That is what I'm really trying [51:03] to find out because yes, we [51:05] should comply and we can to [51:07] comply but it's going to be -- [51:09] first of all they have to give [51:10] that definition. It's going to [51:11] be one of a challenge to balance [51:13] that I think the PMAD revised, [51:17] if you try to get everything [51:18] done on their, something is [51:19] going to fall through the [51:22] cracks. I really do not [51:23] appreciate them doing that. [51:27] That's a law, they are not going [51:28] fuzzy on that. There is no base [51:29] in terms, of all, you can maybe [51:30] do this, maybe do that. [51:34] Densification the parking lot at [51:36] Cadillac Fairview was a minimum [51:38] of 60. Now they are going to [51:39] blow in and come in and say it's [51:41] going to be -- it has to be at [51:43] least what? 20 to 50. They are [51:45] putting the hard line in the [51:47] sand now and I think what [51:48] they're asking us to do, without [51:50] giving us a proper definitions [51:51] to give it a feasibility [51:53] opportunity to see if it's [51:54] actually feasible is unfair. [51:57] It's unfair. [51:58] >> They do mention other aspects [52:02] besides canopy such as [52:04] biodiversity, Browns, expats, [52:05] all the different species, the [52:07] 35 endangered species that are [52:09] in Fairview forest. There are [52:12] also criteria's beyond canopy. [52:13] The canopy is one reference but [52:14] they specifically refer to [52:16] biodiversity and other issues as [52:19] well. [52:21] >> Thanks. [52:22] >> If I could just give my own [52:25] take on the 30% number. We are [52:29] below 30% in Pointe-Claire so [52:31] what that effectively tells me [52:33] is we cannot build on green. We [52:35] can build somewhere else but we [52:36] cannot build on green. That is [52:38] my take. [52:41] >> The PMAD explicitly denied [52:43] that especially for the areas [52:44] that they froze. There are other [52:47] legislations like 39 and other [52:49] things that they have put in [52:50] place for the city to take [52:51] advantage of. [52:54] >> Point taken. Point taken. [52:57] Very well taken. Thank you very [52:59] much. Councillor Tremblay? [53:01] >> Thank you for your question. [53:03] I think the important thing [53:05] behind this issue is we do not [53:06] want to get lost in quibbling [53:11] overinterpretation and confusion [53:12] over whether or not a and B [53:14] means B. The ultimate problem [53:16] that we have today is we are [53:18] witnessing again another [53:20] disaster in California is these [53:22] kinds of issues are pervasive [53:24] now throughout the world. I [53:26] think the important thing we [53:28] need to do, regardless of [53:29] whether 30% or not, the [53:32] important thing for this council [53:33] to do is to be thinking of the [53:35] future and its citizens, its [53:37] health and safety. Ultimately, [53:39] we need to be working towards, [53:41] as I have said many, many times [53:42] with the intention of aiming to [53:46] solve this problem rather than [53:49] whether we are complying or not [53:51] an outing confusion to the whole [53:52] picture. I think if these [53:54] constructs the issue at hand and [53:56] I think it's important to [53:57] underline the fact that what we [53:59] need today is a mental and [54:02] economic, social paradigm shift [54:04] in these areas. In order to be [54:08] able to obtain those things, we [54:10] need to start getting creative [54:12] in every level. Political, [54:14] business and social as well. I [54:19] appreciate the question. I would [54:20] not want to get to lost in those [54:23] technicalities in that they are [54:26] important in that they are not [54:28] negligible aspects and what we [54:29] are going through. The rule of [54:30] law and all the qualifications [54:32] that behind that is obviously [54:34] important. Nothing's proceeds [54:36] natural law. Until we learn to [54:38] be able to work within those [54:40] constraints, we are going to [54:41] contingency difficulties that we [54:42] have in the world today. Thanks. [54:45] >> Thank you for the replies. [54:49] >> Susan Weaver? [55:00] >> It's about Council meetings. [55:03] I'm not going to ask you again [55:05] about cost and current City [55:08] lease car so I will submit seven [55:10] pages with that. I was [55:14] concerning last November's -- I [55:18] will go like that -- concerning [55:20] last November's council meeting, [55:22] I was curious as to why you made [55:25] up a story during that meeting. [55:28] It was a sort of a cocking-able [55:31] story. It had said nothing it [55:33] would've been the end of it. [55:35] Actions and words are important. [55:36] Your storyline was different [55:38] from the insurance report. I [55:40] decided to look at your Facebook [55:42] page to check out digs. April [55:45] 6th, you are on a cocktail and [55:48] dinner gala in the evening. Then [55:49] you went up north but after that [55:55] the accident reported only next [55:59] day. That is it. I am just going [56:01] to hand in my seven page. [56:04] >> Okay. I do not know what was [56:07] met by caulk in bull. Miss [56:11] Weaver, we do not yammer from [56:12] the audience, we speak politely [56:14] from the microphone. The [56:19] accident happened with a car was [56:21] recorded by the police and [56:24] documented. I will go with [56:25] whatever written documentation [56:27] they submitted because that [56:28] obviously is the truth. I never [56:30] said anything other than the [56:32] date I was -- it was a morning [56:34] and I drove, I hit a deer, the [56:36] police recorded the accident and [56:38] that was the end of it. There is [56:41] no conflict and there is no [56:42] problem at all. It was in the [56:44] morning on my way up to my [56:46] mother in the hospital in the [56:48] morning. Thank you, Miss Weaver. [57:01] - Bonjour, Conseil. L'année [57:07] passée, je me suis présenté à la [57:09] consultation publique pour [57:12] l'agglomération de Montréal. [57:13] J'ai présenté quelque chose [57:16] concernant les milieux vides. Et [57:18] pour le village de [57:19] Pointe-Claire. Après, ça on m'a [57:21] invité pour représenter... [57:24] - Parler un peu plus fort. [57:26] - Vous m'entendez mieux? [57:29] - Merci. [57:33] - Après ça, ils m'ont invité à [57:35] venir me présenter aux CMM pour [57:37] la consultation publique au mois [57:38] de décembre. J'ai présenté deux [57:41] mémoire, un pour la forêt [57:45] Fairview et pour les lieux [57:47] humides, et un pour le village [57:48] de Pointe-Claire, pour le [57:51] patrimoine, qui n'est pas [57:52] reconnu dans le C.A. Même à [57:55] Montréal. J'ai répondu à madame [58:02] Stainforth, elle avait commenté [58:05] sur les mémoires. Madame [58:07] Saint-force, je vous remercie [58:08] pour ça. [58:17] In the 1970s which was from two [58:20] high schools, Saint-Jean, Thomas [58:24] the city of Pointe-Claire to buy [58:26] the great park that if a [58:28] terracotta. Today, our planet is [58:30] facing a bigger challenge, [58:32] climate change. The effect are [58:36] present all over the world in [58:37] and around us and catastrophic [58:41] events are present everywhere. [58:42] We, as a society, we cannot be [58:45] like ostriches and put our head [58:46] in the sand. We must stand up [58:49] against the society who wants to [58:53] destroy ecological system and go [58:55] against the climate change for [58:57] profit only and make pressure [59:00] with a lobbyist to different [59:02] environment for their district. [59:05] Like you mentioned in your [59:08] comment, I quote, you force are [59:11] the official role in mitigation [59:13] and air pollution and producing [59:18] oxygen. While the canopy cover [59:20] helped regulate urban [59:22] temperature by reducing the [59:25] effect. The natural space are in [59:28] disposable -- responsible for [59:30] foreseeing and creating the [59:33] city. And comment. The [59:35] protection of the forest is [59:38] supporting ecological balance [59:41] and the use as a sanctuary for [59:46] [Inaudible] [59:47] Diversified species that may [59:49] otherwise be displacement by [59:53] urbanizing like the brown snake [59:55] when the REM station erected on [59:58] the southeast section of the [1:00:00] force. We are asking to please [1:00:04] support to save the Fairview [1:00:05] forest like we did in 1970 with [1:00:07] the City to protect the forest [1:00:12] and for the one who cannot talk [1:00:14] and for our children and future [1:00:16] generation. My question is [1:00:19] Est-ce que le Conseil des [1:00:20] membres du conseil vont [1:00:22] supporter la protection de la [1:00:23] forêt Fairview comme leurs [1:00:26] confrères ont fait dans les [1:00:28] années 1970? Pour leur [1:00:32] protection? In person Une [1:00:34] réponse de tout le monde. [1:00:35] - C'est à tout le monde, merci, [1:00:37] Monsieur Lapointe. Pour [1:00:39] moi-même, je trouve que la [1:00:41] meilleure solution pour débuter [1:00:43] et de faire des consultations. [1:00:47] To speak to the people which we [1:00:48] were supposed to do regarding [1:00:49] the future the forest and what [1:00:50] they thought and listen to their [1:00:52] ideas and that would be a good [1:00:53] way to get the ball rolling. As [1:00:55] a Council, that would be a good [1:00:56] way for us to show our [1:00:59] willingness and to get the ball [1:01:00] rolling in these regards. That [1:01:01] is my answer to your question, [1:01:03] sir. Hopefully it's a sufficient [1:01:07] one. [1:01:08] - La Ville de Pointe-Claire a [1:01:09] fait le plan stratégique de 2023 [1:01:12] à 2030. Les réponses, les [1:01:15] sondages des citoyens. [1:01:17] Protection et restauration de la [1:01:18] nature des environnements [1:01:20] naturels. 23% ont répondu pour [1:01:24] ça. Habitation, 14%. [1:01:26] Infrastructures et mobilité [1:01:28] active, 13%. La réponse des [1:01:33] employés, les personnes... 18% [1:01:36] ont répondu augmenter le [1:01:39] verdissement dans les zones [1:01:41] urbaines. Adopter une politique [1:01:43] environnementale audacieuse. [1:01:45] Appuyé des mesures d'efficacité [1:01:50] (---) [1:01:51] dans les bâtiments. Alors ça, [1:01:53] c'est déjà défait, les [1:01:56] questionnaires qui ont été [1:01:57] faites par la Ville. Et on voit [1:02:00] que les gens veulent la [1:02:04] protection, la protection des [1:02:07] changements climatiques. Est-ce [1:02:10] que quelqu'un d'autre veut [1:02:12] répondre? [1:02:13] - Moi, je veux bien. [1:02:15] - Allez-y. [1:02:18] - Pour répondre à votre [1:02:21] question, c'est sûr que la Ville [1:02:23] va suivre la loi. Quoiqu'en dise [1:02:28] monsieur Stokes avec, c'est vrai [1:02:32] que c'est clair ici, il y a un [1:02:36] juge qui a un ou plusieurs juges [1:02:38] qui a décidé c'est quoi les [1:02:41] responsabilités des villes, la [1:02:43] possibilité d'exproprier ou quoi [1:02:44] que ce soit. Là, à savoir en si [1:02:50] l'interprétation de Fairview est [1:02:52] correcte ou interprétation de [1:02:57] Fairview Forrest est correcte. [1:02:59] On va suivre les règles. Merci. [1:03:04] - C'est les citoyens qui [1:03:05] décident, c'est pas un... ils [1:03:07] ont un vote comme nous autres. [1:03:08] On a chacun un vote, comme une [1:03:11] élection. [1:03:12] - Je parle pas d'un vote. Je [1:03:13] parle du juge de la Cour [1:03:15] supérieure qui va décider [1:03:20] d'interpréter qui a raison. [1:03:22] - Mais il a déjà jugé... [1:03:25] - Merci. There has already been [1:03:28] a judgment on Bill 39? Hasn't [1:03:31] there? It's already been [1:03:32] president and it was favourable [1:03:33] to the protection. There has [1:03:35] already been -- I do not know [1:03:36] how many cases -- at least one. [1:03:37] Has there not? [1:03:41] >> They were supposed to go be [1:03:44] in court yesterday. It was [1:03:49] delayed. I don't know who [1:03:51] demanded but it was accepted by [1:03:53] the judge to put it back. We [1:03:57] will find a date soon. Who made [1:04:02] the request, maybe it's [1:04:03] Fairview, maybe it's the CMM. I [1:04:06] do not know. [1:04:08] >> It was Cadillac Fairview. [1:04:10] There was an appeal, I am [1:04:12] presuming, and there has been a [1:04:14] judgment and there has been an [1:04:15] appeal from what I understand. [1:04:21] Was there not a judgment? And [1:04:23] St. Bruno. Absolutely. There is [1:04:24] precedent already. I know, that [1:04:27] is my interpretation. [1:04:30] >> I will actually write [1:04:31] something. I think there is one [1:04:32] little thing. The definition of [1:04:37] a high ecological value and that [1:04:39] is a definition that has to be [1:04:40] determined. It was determined [1:04:42] St. Bruno, but it has not been [1:04:44] determined in St. Bruno -- St. [1:04:46] play where. That's exactly what [1:04:48] we have to, to investigate, to [1:04:49] get our facts and then we can [1:04:52] move forward. That is the crux [1:04:53] of the argument. It has to be [1:04:56] deemed environment of high [1:04:57] ecological value. I think your [1:04:58] legal department would support [1:05:00] me on that. [1:05:02] - Vous n'avez pas répondu à ma [1:05:04] question. [1:05:05] - Une autre question? [1:05:06] - Ma question: est-ce qu'il va [1:05:08] supporter de sauver la forêt [1:05:10] Fairview? [1:05:11] - Je vais supporter la décision [1:05:13] du juge. [1:05:15] - Mais je pense que monsieur [1:05:16] Lapointe demandait à nous de [1:05:19] répondre, pas le juge. [1:05:24] - Monsieur Lapointe, bien, il y [1:05:26] a quelques minutes, je m'exprime [1:05:28] sur le sujet. Donc, vous [1:05:30] comprenez un peu ma position [1:05:31] là-dessus. [1:05:33] - Je crois que vous connaissez [1:05:34] ma position aussi. Depuis cinq [1:05:38] ou 6 ans, j'ai toujours [1:05:43] supporté... j'est toujours [1:05:44] supporté qu'on conserve cette [1:05:48] forêt-là. C'est plus une [1:05:49] question de trouver comment le [1:05:51] faire avec les sous, au lieu de: [1:05:55] est-ce qu'on devrait le faire? [1:05:59] >> My answer, Mr. Lapointe, is I [1:06:01] would like to hear from people [1:06:03] as much as anything because I [1:06:06] believe they deserve to speak on [1:06:07] this and I think there is an [1:06:10] immense amount of talent in our [1:06:13] population that is knowledgeable [1:06:14] and that can bring enhanced [1:06:17] ideas and enhance our decisions [1:06:19] and make a stink better and [1:06:22] perform at a higher level. I [1:06:24] think we owe to the population [1:06:25] to allow that to happen which is [1:06:26] why I would like us to have a [1:06:29] consultation with the [1:06:30] participation process to hear [1:06:31] from the people on this matter. [1:06:33] That is my answer. [1:06:36] - Est-ce qu'il y a d'autres [1:06:38] réponses? [1:06:42] >> I think I made my position [1:06:44] pretty clear. [1:06:46] - Monsieur Bissonnette? >> I [1:06:48] have written my position, many, [1:06:50] many times in many different [1:06:53] forms and many different [1:06:54] locations, rather. [1:07:00] - Merci. [1:07:02] - Je pense que c'est tout. [1:07:03] Merci, Monsieur Lapointe. [1:07:13] >> Good evening. I have not been [1:07:17] able to come to every council [1:07:19] meeting and so maybe some things [1:07:22] have passed me by when I [1:07:24] could've been here listening [1:07:25] more intently but I have been [1:07:30] passionate about the environment [1:07:33] and saving the environment for [1:07:35] as long as I can remember. Even [1:07:38] though my memory is getting [1:07:40] shorter, it goes back a long [1:07:42] way. It is partly why I chose to [1:07:45] come to live in Pointe-Claire, [1:07:47] to stay in Pointe-Claire, even [1:07:49] after my family all moved away [1:07:51] was because of the protection of [1:07:53] green spaces, the nature and why [1:07:57] I chose to move to a town house [1:08:00] where I get terracotta in my [1:08:02] backyard, which is a very, very [1:08:04] special gift. I am certainly one [1:08:07] of the people who is passionate [1:08:09] about saving Fairview forest, [1:08:11] you know that already and I have [1:08:17] participated in most of the -- [1:08:19] fourth of the five public [1:08:21] consultation sessions that the [1:08:23] city organized through a [1:08:25] consulting firm and somebody [1:08:28] along the way decided that we [1:08:29] could not speak about Fairview [1:08:32] forest during those public [1:08:34] consultation sessions, even ones [1:08:37] that were about private green [1:08:39] space, for heaven's sake. [1:08:41] Anyway, we did. We did anyway. [1:08:43] The hundred or so people that [1:08:45] were in the room talks about [1:08:47] saving Fairview forest in spite [1:08:50] of what we were told what we [1:08:53] could not say. While it was not [1:08:54] going to be recorded, it was [1:08:56] certainly loudly heard. Frankly, [1:08:59] I do not think we need another [1:09:01] consultation. I think the [1:09:03] dedication of people for the [1:09:05] last, what, three years, four [1:09:08] years of standing outside on a [1:09:11] Saturday and whatever the [1:09:14] weather, every single Saturday. [1:09:17] I am not one of the most devoted [1:09:18] ones, but I admire those who [1:09:20] are. That says a lot. The people [1:09:22] who honk their horns and give us [1:09:25] a thumbs up. The people that [1:09:27] have signed petitions. I think [1:09:29] we have heard from Pointe-Claire [1:09:31] people. The green spaces are [1:09:34] special and important to us and [1:09:35] we need to save it. I was quite [1:09:40] surprised when I learned tonight [1:09:42] that one of the points on the [1:09:45] agenda, point number just a [1:09:49] minute, let me get it here, 11.1 [1:09:54] approved of sale to be entered [1:09:57] into with the five regarding [1:10:02] lots of the catastrophe Québec. [1:10:03] De la Faune et des parcs. [1:10:12] It was pointed out to me that [1:10:14] that specific area is the green [1:10:19] space between the canoe and [1:10:21] kayak in club and the -- which [1:10:27] I've actually traverse not long [1:10:29] ago when I have to park at the [1:10:30] canoe club to get into an event. [1:10:35] I know it's a lovely part. I [1:10:37] know it's waterfront. It is [1:10:39] green space. I have questions [1:10:43] and I will put them into one. [1:10:45] First of all, I'd like to know [1:10:47] what this is about. It is coming [1:10:50] up as approving a deed of sales [1:10:54] so I'd like to know what is [1:10:57] this, why is this, who is this, [1:11:01] what does this mean, how did [1:11:03] this come about? I just missed [1:11:07] December. I do not remember this [1:11:10] being mentioned in November [1:11:12] December, whenever I was here, [1:11:13] how did this come about without [1:11:14] citizens knowing and what is [1:11:15] this about? I would like that [1:11:18] answer. [1:11:19] >> From what I know on the [1:11:22] matter, it's an administrative [1:11:26] exchange. I think it has been [1:11:29] given to the City of [1:11:30] Pointe-Claire. We are taking [1:11:31] over our own land from the [1:11:33] provincial --'s at the [1:11:34] provincial government or the [1:11:36] federal? Provincial. It is an [1:11:38] administrative manoeuvre nothing [1:11:39] really has changed except we are [1:11:41] now more responsible for its [1:11:43] management. That's what I [1:11:45] understand. Does anybody want to [1:11:46] elaborate on that? [1:11:48] >> Basically part of the part [1:11:50] was still owned by the [1:11:54] environment ministry, it just [1:11:56] transferred to the city but we [1:11:57] recognize at the same time that [1:11:59] they use it for more than 50 [1:12:02] years. [1:12:03] >> Okay. It would've been clear [1:12:05] if it said it was indeed a [1:12:08] purchase. It means we are [1:12:10] getting it, is that what you are [1:12:12] meeting? They are selling, we [1:12:13] are buying, it is going to be [1:12:15] Pointe-Claire and it will come [1:12:17] under our environment rules and [1:12:21] caring for keeping our [1:12:22] environment? Is that correct? [1:12:23] >> It will still be a park. It's [1:12:25] the same thing. It's a transfer [1:12:27] between us and the Environment [1:12:30] minister. [1:12:31] >> What I understand, the rules [1:12:33] of waterfront still or other [1:12:35] levels of government. The water [1:12:37] is overlooked by other levels of [1:12:41] government. [1:12:42] >> I know, usually, the border [1:12:43] is also to be naturally [1:12:45] protected so we do not have the [1:12:46] erosion in that kind of thing. [1:12:48] >> You got it. [1:12:49] >> That makes it a little clear [1:12:51] Simpson on the environment [1:12:52] committee to not, I thought I [1:12:54] should've known something about [1:12:56] this because the way I read it, [1:12:58] it sounded like it could've been [1:13:00] us getting rid of the land and [1:13:01] I'm glad to hear we have not. [1:13:03] Thank you. [1:13:09] - Geneviève Lussier? [1:13:16] - Bonjour, tout le monde. Thank [1:13:19] you everybody. I was about to [1:13:21] ask about 11.1. Mr. Stork [1:13:23] answered outside and that's good [1:13:24] and it's good to get [1:13:25] clarification about that point. [1:13:26] I also want to ask about a [1:13:29] follow-up about Mr. Stork had [1:13:32] said about the PMAD provision. [1:13:36] Right now, Fairview forest [1:13:39] appears into the if it gets [1:13:44] passed in the spring, was there [1:13:45] planning to do, Je ne sais pas [1:13:48] si c'est madame Verdun ou [1:13:49] monsieur Thomas qui peut me [1:13:50] répondre, mais c'est quoi le [1:13:52] processus légal? What is a legal [1:13:54] process going forward at the [1:13:56] municipal level? If the City is [1:13:58] to comply to that one is a legal [1:14:03] process going forward after that [1:14:05] gets passed in the spring? I [1:14:07] guess, what is a timeline for [1:14:09] that? [1:14:10] >> Very good question. Madame [1:14:12] Verdon, avez-vous une réponse? [1:14:13] Madame Verdon? [1:14:17] >> Can I answer in French? - [1:14:18] Oui, pas de problème. [1:14:19] - Dans le fond, le processus, [1:14:21] présentement, on ne se conforme [1:14:23] pas. On se conforme au schéma [1:14:25] d'aménagement de l'agglomération [1:14:26] de Montréal. Donc, le chez [1:14:28] madame May d'agglomération de [1:14:30] Montréal doit se conformer au [1:14:31] pénal qui doit se conformer aux [1:14:32] (---) [1:14:33] environnementales. Nous, on doit [1:14:35] attendre que le schéma de la [1:14:36] main l'agglomération soit [1:14:39] changée pour conformer aux PMAD [1:14:40] et ensuite la ville doit faire [1:14:43] ses règlements de conformité au [1:14:45] schéma. [1:14:46] - O.K., Le schéma d'aménagement [1:14:48] récemment a été changé par [1:14:49] rapport à la forêt Fairview et [1:14:50] aussi. Ils ont fait un [1:14:51] changement qui est un projet de [1:14:52] règlement, je pense. Mais c'est [1:14:53] à 50% de la forêt au moins. [1:14:56] C'est le milieu humide est plus [1:14:58] une bordure de bottés de 30 [1:15:00] mètres. Ça va faire partie de ça [1:15:03] aussi? [1:15:04] - Oui, ça va être ça. Dans le [1:15:06] fond, le schéma qui a été changé [1:15:09] et avec les plans de milieux [1:15:11] humides, ils ont des plans... je [1:15:13] sais de raccourcir les [1:15:14] raccourcis. Dans les milieux [1:15:16] humides. Ils doivent aussi, tous [1:15:17] les MRC, dont la l'agglomération [1:15:19] de Montréal doit avoir la [1:15:20] gestion des milieux humides. La [1:15:22] Ville doit pouvoir se conformer [1:15:24] aussi à cette disposition-là du [1:15:26] schéma. [1:15:27] - O.K., Donc, au moins 50% de la [1:15:30] forêt [1:15:31] (---) [1:15:32] qu'on ne va pas toucher? [1:15:33] - J'ai pas exactement les [1:15:35] chiffres avec moi, mais oui, [1:15:37] dans le fond, on va devoir se [1:15:39] conformer aux plans des milieux [1:15:42] humides de la région. [1:15:44] - O.K., On commence avec ça. [1:15:45] Parfait, merci beaucoup. [1:15:52] - Ils auraient Home? [1:15:58] - Bonsoir. Alors, moi, je [1:16:01] voulais remercier le conseil. [1:16:04] Monsieur Cohen et la direction [1:16:06] de la ville d'avoir embarqué [1:16:10] dans le projet des jardins [1:16:12] communautaires dans le quartier [1:16:14] en Haïda. Je suis très [1:16:16] reconnaissante. Je veux faire de [1:16:18] ce jardin-là quelque chose qui [1:16:19] va être porteurs pour notre [1:16:22] quartier. Et je veux impliquer [1:16:23] le plus de gens possible [1:16:24] là-dedans. Et je voulais vous [1:16:26] remercier. [1:16:28] - Merci beaucoup. Robert Peck. [1:16:39] >> Thank you City Councillors, I [1:16:41] am a former resident of [1:16:44] Pointe-Claire. My father was a [1:16:45] World War II veteran who settled [1:16:46] in Lakeside Heights and I grew [1:16:47] up on circle Road so it's my [1:16:49] first time back in about 40 [1:16:53] years. I was a 35-year Canadian [1:16:55] diplomat. My last assignment was [1:16:57] ambassador to Greece. I am to [1:16:59] lean a long-standing and I'm [1:17:01] here basically to add my voice [1:17:03] of support for the Athens park [1:17:05] initiative. If I could just very [1:17:07] briefly say why. I went to [1:17:11] Northview elementary school and [1:17:13] then Lindsey Place high school. [1:17:15] Athens pizza was very much a [1:17:17] part of our lives. It followed [1:17:19] for subsequent generations in my [1:17:21] own family and I am sure it's [1:17:23] true for many other families in [1:17:26] Pointe-Claire. For thousands of [1:17:27] Pointe-Claire residents in those [1:17:28] in the surrounding area, Athens [1:17:31] pizza headed Greek Canadian [1:17:33] employees represented the [1:17:34] generosity and kindness of [1:17:36] Greece known. Athens pizza was [1:17:40] also emblematic of the hard work [1:17:41] and sacrifice of the ways of [1:17:43] Greek in immigrants in the post [1:17:44] war period who came to Canada to [1:17:46] start a new life and the [1:17:47] proposed plan for Athens Park [1:17:49] with on only honour the founder [1:17:51] of Athens peas -- pizza but the [1:17:55] important contribution of [1:17:56] persons of Greek heritage so [1:17:57] that the community of Québec and [1:18:00] Canada. My question is very [1:18:01] simple, how can individual such [1:18:03] as myself practically support [1:18:05] efforts to move this initiative [1:18:07] along leading to an early [1:18:09] integration of Athens Park in [1:18:10] the celebration? The park, in my [1:18:12] mind, symbolically has [1:18:14] importance that transcends the [1:18:15] borders of Pointe-Claire. There [1:18:17] is my question. I have a second [1:18:20] question on something totally [1:18:21] different with the national [1:18:22] focus of the night but I'd be [1:18:25] interested in any comments. [1:18:27] >> You are a subsequent [1:18:29] question. All I can say is, we [1:18:31] are all on board. I mean it's a [1:18:34] good initiative. What I could [1:18:36] encourage you to do is to come [1:18:39] back and keep doing this every [1:18:40] month. Come back we month and [1:18:41] remind us. I think it's well in [1:18:43] the minds and everybody is [1:18:48] pleased. It's pretty much a [1:18:50] unanimous thing. I do not see [1:18:51] any problems. You are, right [1:18:54] bureaucracy can only slow things [1:18:55] up. You putting it in our faces, [1:18:59] it's never a bad thing. [1:19:00] >> Thank you. [1:19:01] >> Now your subsequent national [1:19:03] question. [1:19:04] >> Could everybody pay attention [1:19:06] to this kind of presentation or [1:19:10] discourse because a matter of [1:19:11] heritage is coming up and as a [1:19:14] current concern in this is exact [1:19:17] point of heritage. The [1:19:20] ambassador was talking about was [1:19:21] the definition of heritage or an [1:19:24] aspect of heritage of the city [1:19:26] is an important memory in that [1:19:28] important memory is being [1:19:31] conserved in this way. I just [1:19:33] wanted to mention this is [1:19:34] exactly the kind of thing we are [1:19:36] thinking about now in trying to [1:19:37] define heritage in [1:19:40] Pointe-Claire, in operational [1:19:42] way, in other words, how would [1:19:44] help proper decisions going [1:19:46] forward. This is an example. [1:19:48] >> Thank you. My second [1:19:50] question, I am here basically to [1:19:52] make a pitch about something I'm [1:19:53] very, very passionate about. I [1:19:55] have been leading a national [1:19:57] campaign regarding the national [1:19:59] field of honour, which as you [1:20:00] know, is a national historic [1:20:01] site located in Pointe-Claire. [1:20:04] It is the largest Canadian and [1:20:06] allied veterans cemetery in [1:20:08] Canada with veterans from 23 [1:20:12] countries and it's on our [1:20:13] backdoor here in Pointe-Claire. [1:20:15] As a former Canadian ambassador, [1:20:16] I have visited the graves of [1:20:18] Canadian soldiers around the [1:20:20] world meticulously maintained in [1:20:22] perpetuity by the Commonwealth [1:20:24] work race Commission. The last [1:20:25] post fund, with two I have been [1:20:27] working with for quite some [1:20:29] years now, a nonprofit [1:20:30] organization that is when the [1:20:31] cemetery for Décarie basically [1:20:33] is running out of money. They [1:20:35] have four years in which has [1:20:36] long. Their endowment would be [1:20:37] completed in a few short years, [1:20:39] largely because of rising [1:20:41] overhead costs and declining [1:20:43] revenues for burials, which is [1:20:44] one of their major revenue [1:20:46] streams. With the recent federal [1:20:47] cabinet shuffle in Ottawa, we [1:20:49] now have the third minister of [1:20:51] veterans of here that we have [1:20:52] been working with. The new MP, [1:20:55] who is now the minister, is [1:20:57] Darren Fisher, he's an MP for [1:20:58] Nova Scotia. Two Montréal area [1:21:01] liberal parliamentarians, you [1:21:03] all know Francis the local MP [1:21:07] and [1:21:12] [Inaudible] [1:21:13] Have been champions. I also lead [1:21:14] with another former ambassador, [1:21:15] petition to the House of Commons [1:21:16] last September where we had [1:21:18] nearly 1500 signatory which [1:21:21] included two former ministers of [1:21:23] former affairs, a former [1:21:24] Governor General who all said [1:21:26] let's get this done. In the [1:21:27] scheme of things, it is peanuts. [1:21:29] This is not big money we are [1:21:30] talking about. The last veterans [1:21:34] affairs minister made a private [1:21:37] visit last November to the field [1:21:40] of honour and we thought [1:21:43] something was in the offing. [1:21:44] Alas, in the government [1:21:46] following economic statement, we [1:21:48] guide a statement saying as we [1:21:50] have been told before, we will [1:21:51] continue to work with the [1:21:52] national field of honour to find [1:21:55] a way to preserve the legacy of [1:21:58] veterans but there was no money [1:22:01] attached like there were four [1:22:02] other initiatives so it fell [1:22:06] flat. As we all know, the 80th [1:22:09] anniversary of the Second World [1:22:10] War in 2025. My appeal to you [1:22:13] all tonight is what better [1:22:14] occasion for Canada to honour [1:22:15] the sacrifice and legacy of [1:22:17] veterans who rest in the [1:22:19] national field of honour by to [1:22:21] announce the federal government [1:22:22] will ensure that the cemetery [1:22:25] will be maintained and taken [1:22:26] over by the government of [1:22:28] Canada. I should add that the [1:22:29] National Post Fund has offered [1:22:31] to transfer gratuitously the [1:22:35] properties, the federal [1:22:36] government, as well as a 900,000 [1:22:38] dollar in the trust fund. It's a [1:22:41] gift to the federal government. [1:22:43] My request to all of you is, we [1:22:46] are pushing the new ministers [1:22:48] veteran affairs and what remains [1:22:50] of the government. We all know [1:22:51] that there is going to be an [1:22:52] election in the fall but that [1:22:53] will not be probably until the [1:22:55] spring. We are urge, urging [1:22:58] minister Fischer to get it done. [1:23:00] My question is, could I request, [1:23:04] respectfully, that the City [1:23:07] Council pass a resolution urging [1:23:10] minister Fisher, the Middle East [1:23:12] are a veteran affairs, to take [1:23:14] the necessary steps to ensure [1:23:16] perpetuity the viability and [1:23:17] sustainability of the field of [1:23:19] honour, a national historic [1:23:20] site, in the boundaries of [1:23:22] Pointe-Claire? That is my [1:23:23] request, that is my question. [1:23:24] Thank you. [1:23:25] >> It sounds like a reasonable [1:23:27] one and I cannot speak for the [1:23:28] rest of Council but I thank you [1:23:30] for your encouragement. [1:23:33] >> Thank you. Thank you very [1:23:34] much. [1:23:39] - Louise arrêt? C'est la fin de [1:23:44] la période de questions. [1:23:49] >> Sorry, may I just add [1:23:51] something? [1:23:52] >> Absolutely. [1:23:53] >> Just so it does not fall [1:23:54] through the cracks, would you [1:23:56] mind emailing madame Verdon your [1:24:00] request? Like I said, there's a [1:24:01] lot of things that come across a [1:24:02] table in that way we can ensure [1:24:03] that we get it done. [1:24:11] - 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt [1:24:12] d'un projet de règlement [1:24:13] décrétant un emprunt à long [1:24:14] terme et une dépense en [1:24:15] immobilisations de 500 000 $ [1:24:16] pour le remplacement et la mise [1:24:17] à niveau de la flotte des [1:24:18] véhicules du service des travaux [1:24:19] publics et des immeubles. Le [1:24:22] type de véhicules visés sont [1:24:24] avec utilitaires, une [1:24:25] camionnette, une rétro [1:24:27] excavatrice, une déchiqueteuse [1:24:28] et deux remorques. 5.2, a notice [1:24:31] of motion filing of a draft [1:24:37] by-law amending Zoning By-law [1:24:38] PC-2775 in order to clarify [1:24:39] definitions related to terrace [1:24:40] and garden structures, and to [1:24:41] regulate the development and the [1:24:42] use of commercial terraces and [1:24:43] microterraces. [1:24:46] - 5.3 Avis de motion et dépôt [1:24:47] d'un projet de règlement [1:24:48] modifiant le Règlement de [1:24:49] construction PC-2786 concernant [1:24:50] le calcul de la capacité [1:24:51] d'accueil de même que les règles [1:24:52] relatives à l'aménagement d'une [1:24:54] structure au-dessus d'une [1:24:55] terrasse commerciale. >> 5.4, [1:25:02] Notice of motion and filing of a [1:25:03] draft by-law amending Site [1:25:04] Planning and Architectural [1:25:05] Integration Program By-law [1:25:06] PC-2787 in order to regulate [1:25:07] commercial terraces. [1:25:12] - Avis de motion et dépôt d'un [1:25:13] projet de règlement modifiant le [1:25:14] Règlement des permis et [1:25:15] certificats PC-2788 afin de [1:25:16] préciser les informations [1:25:17] requises au dépôt d'une demande [1:25:18] de certificat d'autorisation [1:25:19] concernant une terrasse [1:25:20] commerciale de même que la durée [1:25:22] de validité dudit certificat [1:25:24] d'autorisation. >> The motion [1:25:27] 5.6 Notice of motion and filing [1:25:28] of a draft by-law amending the [1:25:29] Village Code PC-2880 in order to [1:25:31] clarify that commercial terraces [1:25:34] are not governed by the Village [1:25:35] Code. [1:25:38] >> Who presents these notices of [1:25:41] motion? 5.1 to 5.6. [1:25:46] >> Brent Cowan. District 8. 5.7, [1:25:47] Adoption of a first draft by-law [1:25:48] amending Zoning By-law PC-2775 [1:25:49] in order to clarify definitions [1:25:50] (---) [1:25:51] les principales modifications [1:25:52] proposées selon le type de [1:25:53] terrasse concerne les usages [1:25:54] permettant l'aménagement et [1:25:55] l'exploitation, la localisation, [1:25:56] les règles relatives à [1:25:57] l'aménagement et le [1:25:58] positionnement. No [1:26:12] Les activités permises ou [1:26:14] prohibée, la capacité d'accueil [1:26:16] maximale tenant compte des [1:26:17] moyens d'évacuation des [1:26:19] (---) [1:26:20] de même que du nombre minimal de [1:26:21] cases de stationnement requis. [1:26:23] Ainsi que les heures [1:26:24] d'opération. Certaines [1:26:26] dispositions sont sujet à [1:26:27] l'approbation des personnes [1:26:28] habiles à voter. Une [1:26:30] consultation publique sera tenue [1:26:31] dans quelques semaines avant [1:26:34] l'adoption du second projet est [1:26:35] un avis sera publié pour donner [1:26:37] les détails de cette [1:26:39] consultation. Après l'adoption [1:26:41] du second projet, un avis sera [1:26:42] publié qui s'adressera, elle, [1:26:44] aux personnes habiles à voter du [1:26:46] secteur. Enfin, une version [1:26:48] finale sera présentée au Conseil [1:26:50] pour une adoption finale. [1:26:58] >> 5.8 Adoption of a first draft [1:26:59] by-law amending the Construction [1:27:00] By-law PC-2786 regarding the [1:27:02] calculation of occupancy [1:27:03] capacity as well as the rules [1:27:04] related to the construction of a [1:27:05] structure above a commercial [1:27:06] terrace. The purpose of such an [1:27:08] amendment to establish the rules [1:27:09] to ensure the quality and safety [1:27:10] of people on commercial [1:27:12] terraces. [1:27:14] - 5.9, Adoption d'un premier [1:27:15] projet de règlement modifiant le [1:27:16] Règlement sur les plans [1:27:17] d'implantation et d'intégration [1:27:21] architecturale PC-2787 afin [1:27:22] d'encadrer les terrasses [1:27:23] commerciales. Dans le but de [1:27:24] mener une équité, un équilibre, [1:27:25] une saine cohabitation et une [1:27:27] cohésion dans le développement [1:27:28] ou le développement du [1:27:29] territoire. Il est important de [1:27:30] définir les objectifs et des [1:27:32] critères pour encadrer [1:27:33] l'aménagement et l'exploitation [1:27:34] des terrasses commerciales, et [1:27:36] ce peu importe la localisation [1:27:37] de ses dernières à l'intérieur [1:27:38] du territoire de paix [1:27:40] Pointe-Claire. [1:27:43] >> 5.10 Adoption of a first [1:27:44] draft By-law amending the [1:27:45] Village Code, by-law PC-2880 of [1:27:46] the city of Pointe-Claire, in [1:27:47] order to clarify that commercial [1:27:49] terraces are not governed by the [1:27:50] Village Code. The purpose of [1:27:52] this amendment to clarifying [1:27:53] harbour new harmonized to rule [1:27:55] applicable to commercial [1:27:57] tariffs. [1:27:58] - Pour 5,7 à 5,10? Do I have a [1:28:02] mover? [1:28:03] >> Prepare to move this motion [1:28:05] or like to explain to everybody [1:28:06] this is a first draft bylaw. [1:28:09] There is the plan to have a [1:28:10] public consultation going [1:28:12] forward to get everybody to [1:28:14] weigh in on this first draft [1:28:18] does not mean it's the final [1:28:19] version. It gives the [1:28:20] opportunity for those, that kind [1:28:22] of feedback. The -- putting in a [1:28:25] commercial terrasse operation, [1:28:26] there is always going to be the [1:28:28] issue of promoting business [1:28:30] versus the nuisance to [1:28:32] potentially to businesses on the [1:28:34] side and residents that might [1:28:35] live nearby. This is a difficult [1:28:40] balance to effect and that is [1:28:42] why it's important to have the [1:28:43] feedback of the people that will [1:28:44] be involved in that opportunity [1:28:46] will be there. With that said, I [1:28:48] move the adoption of the first [1:28:50] draft bylaw identified at 5.7 [1:28:54] through 5.10. Brent Cowan. [1:28:57] District 8. [1:28:58] >> And seconder? [1:29:01] >> Eric Stork. District 7. [1:29:02] >> I would like to speak to 5.7 [1:29:04] and 5.10. Pour moi, je votre [1:29:09] contre les [1:29:11] (---) [1:29:12] cinq points sept à cinq points [1:29:13] dix, parce qu'ils appliquent [1:29:14] l'adoption d'un nouveau projet [1:29:15] de règlement avec lequel je suis [1:29:16] en désaccord. Ils contraindra [1:29:20] excessivement les commerçants de [1:29:22] Pointe-Claire avec la [1:29:24] bureaucratie et limitera leur [1:29:25] capacité à s'engager dans des [1:29:28] activités commerciales à [1:29:29] l'extérieur de leur [1:29:31] établissement, comme les [1:29:32] terrasses, les cours, etc.. Plus [1:29:36] important encore, ce règlement [1:29:38] perpétuera une tendance en cours [1:29:41] depuis des années, voire des [1:29:44] décennies, en limitant la [1:29:45] capacité des citoyens de [1:29:47] Pointe-Claire à s'amuser sans [1:29:49] problème à l'extérieur et à [1:29:52] l'intérieur des établissements [1:29:53] commerciaux. Les clauses du [1:29:55] règlement que je trouve [1:29:57] excessive sont les suivantes: [1:30:00] sur les terrasses commerciales, [1:30:02] les activités telles que la [1:30:05] danse, les représentations [1:30:07] théâtrales ou cinématographique [1:30:10] ou les spectacles utilisant des [1:30:13] haut-parleurs ou tout autre [1:30:15] appareil d'amplification du sont [1:30:17] sont interdits. Donc, la danse, [1:30:22] les haut-parleurs et [1:30:23] l'amplification du sont sont [1:30:25] interdits. Sérieusement. La [1:30:28] capacité... deuxième: la [1:30:30] capacité maximale de la terrasse [1:30:31] et le nombre de places [1:30:34] correspondant à la moitié des [1:30:36] places intérieures de [1:30:38] l'établissement, ou 25 places. [1:30:40] Dans le cadre du studio 77, cela [1:30:44] signifie 27 personnes au total [1:30:46] et nous savons tous qu'il y a [1:30:48] toujours eu beaucoup plus que [1:30:50] cela et que le nombre de [1:30:52] personnes n'est jamais [1:30:54] (---) [1:30:55] dangereux ou problématique. [1:30:57] Comme nous le savons tous, les [1:30:58] lieux de spectacle ont été [1:31:00] traités avec [1:31:02] (---) [1:31:03] pendant de nombreuses années, [1:31:05] voire des décennies. Et [1:31:06] j'aimerais que cela change. Je [1:31:09] conviens que les établissements [1:31:11] commerciaux ne devraient pas [1:31:13] être autorisés à perturber ou à [1:31:17] nuire à la qualité de vie de [1:31:19] leurs voisins et que le volume [1:31:21] sonore devrait toujours être [1:31:24] contrôlé. Mais j'ai l'impression [1:31:25] que la Ville peut faire [1:31:27] davantage de compromis afin de [1:31:29] s'assurer que les citoyens de [1:31:31] Pointe-Claire ne perde pas la [1:31:32] possibilité de célébrer et de [1:31:34] profiter de la vie de manière [1:31:37] raisonnable, en particulier dans [1:31:38] leurs villages commerciaux. I [1:31:44] debated because Councillor Cohen [1:31:46] was indeed correct, will be a [1:31:48] consultation process, but I [1:31:49] quite simply do not like the [1:31:51] first draft for the reasons that [1:31:53] I have just specified in French [1:31:54] but I will elaborate in English. [1:31:58] I am against 5.7 and 5.10 [1:32:01] because they involve the [1:32:02] adoption of a new draft bylaw [1:32:03] that I disagree with because I [1:32:06] feel little overly constraint [1:32:08] Pointe-Claire merchant with [1:32:09] bureaucracy and limit their [1:32:10] ability to engage in commercial [1:32:12] activities on the outside of [1:32:13] their establishments example, [1:32:15] terraces, courtyards, et cetera. [1:32:17] More importantly, this bylaw [1:32:19] will perpetuate an ongoing trend [1:32:21] for years even decades limiting [1:32:23] the ability of Pointe-Claire [1:32:25] citizens to have harmless finds [1:32:27] both inside and outside of [1:32:28] commercial establishment. The [1:32:31] clauses of the bylaw that I find [1:32:33] excessive are, number one, a [1:32:35] commercial terraces activities [1:32:37] such as dancing, theatrical or [1:32:41] cinematography performances or [1:32:42] shows using loudspeakers or any [1:32:44] other sound amplification [1:32:46] devices are prohibited. So [1:32:48] dancing, speakers and [1:32:52] amplification interests are [1:32:53] prohibited. Seriously? For me, [1:32:55] that is a little harsh. Number [1:32:57] two, the maximum terrasse [1:32:59] capacity shall be the number of [1:33:00] seats corresponding to half the [1:33:02] establishment indoor seating or [1:33:04] 25 seats. In the case of studio [1:33:07] 77, which is big for [1:33:08] Pointe-Claire Village, this [1:33:09] would mean 27 people total. We [1:33:12] all know that there are many [1:33:13] more than that and that the [1:33:15] volume of people never seem [1:33:17] cramped, dangerous or a problem [1:33:18] in the events that occurred [1:33:21] there. As we all know, live [1:33:24] entertainment have been treated [1:33:25] to this day for many years and [1:33:27] decades now and I like this to [1:33:28] change. I agree that commercial [1:33:30] establishment should not be [1:33:31] permitted to disrupt or [1:33:32] adversely affect the quality of [1:33:34] life with their neighbours and [1:33:35] sound volume should always be [1:33:37] controlled but somehow I feel [1:33:39] that more compromise can be made [1:33:40] on the part of this city in [1:33:42] order to also ensure that [1:33:43] Pointe-Claire citizens do not [1:33:45] lose out on the ability to [1:33:46] celebrate and enjoy life in a [1:33:49] reasonable matter especially in [1:33:51] their commercial villages. That [1:33:53] is my take on that. We have a [1:34:00] mover. I had a mover. Did we [1:34:01] have a seconder? Non?. [1:34:05] >> Now. [1:34:06] >> Do I have a seconder? [1:34:09] Councillor Brent Cowan moved. [1:34:12] 5.7 to 5.10. [1:34:14] >> Eric Stork. District 7. I [1:34:15] liked as a speak to the matter [1:34:16] as well. [1:34:17] >> Absolutely. [1:34:18] >> Just for clarification, this [1:34:19] bylaw is the general bylaw in [1:34:21] terms of outdoor music and [1:34:23] outdoor speakers. You can still [1:34:25] do such events through a special [1:34:27] permit process. We do not want [1:34:29] to be something general across [1:34:30] the board. One guy is playing [1:34:32] rap music, the other guys [1:34:33] playing classic next pre-show. [1:34:34] That we want to have some sort [1:34:35] of control element so you can [1:34:36] still do outdoor shows in terms [1:34:40] of the special process which is [1:34:42] standard. Another thing, just to [1:34:44] clarify, is the 50% rule is [1:34:47] actually a bylaw that exists and [1:34:50] if we aren't happy with, it then [1:34:51] we should potentially change it [1:34:53] but we have to follow the rules [1:34:55] that governs us this moment. [1:34:57] Thank you. [1:34:59] >> All in favour of 5.7 to 5.10? [1:35:03] All against? Cinq points 11? [1:35:13] - 5.11 Adoption sans [1:35:14] modification d'un Règlement [1:35:15] relatif à la démolition des [1:35:16] immeubles. Les principaux [1:35:17] objectifs visés par le Règlement [1:35:18] de démolition sont: protégés [1:35:21] améliorer et mettre en valeur le [1:35:23] cadre bâti des immeubles [1:35:25] présentant une [1:35:26] (---) [1:35:27] un bien culturel au sens de la [1:35:28] Loi sur le patrimoine culturel. [1:35:30] Maintenir un parc immobilier de [1:35:32] qualité et adapter, permettant [1:35:33] de répondre aux besoins des [1:35:35] ménages. S'assurer que le [1:35:36] programme préliminaire de [1:35:37] réalisation du sol dégagé [1:35:39] contribué à la mise en valeur du [1:35:41] paysage urbanisé existant. Avant [1:35:42] le recours ultime à la [1:35:45] démolition, donner la priorité à [1:35:46] la rénovation, à la restauration [1:35:48] ou à la réutilisation des [1:35:50] bâtiments existants dans une [1:35:51] perspective de durabilité, de [1:35:53] réduction de l'empreinte [1:35:54] carbone, lorsque l'entretien du [1:35:55] bâtiment est encore [1:35:56] raisonnablement possible, [1:35:58] notamment en ce qui concerne les [1:36:00] investissements requis. [1:36:01] Planifier globalement [1:36:02] l'exécution des travaux dans une [1:36:04] perspective de gestion [1:36:05] écologique et responsable des [1:36:06] ressources affectées au projet. [1:36:08] Et enfin, régler les problèmes [1:36:10] de salubrité, de nuisance ou de [1:36:12] sécurité des bâtiments [1:36:15] obsolètes. [1:36:16] - Pour cinq points 11. Do I have [1:36:18] a mover? [1:36:19] >> Brent Cowan. [1:36:21] District 8. I'd asked for that [1:36:22] to be read an English for the [1:36:24] benefit of the audience. [1:36:26] >> Adoption of the modification [1:36:33] modification of a By-law [1:36:34] respecting the demolition of [1:36:35] immovables.. Protect enhance the [1:36:36] move those that have heritage [1:36:37] value or constitute cultural [1:36:38] property within the meaning of [1:36:39] the cultural heritage Act. [1:36:40] Improve the quality and [1:36:42] functionality of housing while [1:36:43] maintaining the housing stock [1:36:44] that needs expressed needs. [1:36:46] Ensure that the preliminary [1:36:47] program for the realization of [1:36:48] the vacated lounge contribute to [1:36:50] the enhancement of the existing [1:36:52] urbanized landscape. Before [1:36:54] resorting ultimately to [1:36:56] demolition, give priority to [1:36:57] renovating, restoring, or using [1:36:59] existing buildings on the [1:37:01] sustainability and carbon [1:37:02] footprint reduction perspective [1:37:03] in cases where maintaining the [1:37:05] building is still reasonably [1:37:07] possible. Particularly in terms [1:37:08] of the investment required. Plan [1:37:10] the overall execution of the [1:37:12] work from the perspective of [1:37:14] ecological and responsible [1:37:15] management of the resources [1:37:16] allocated to the project and [1:37:18] lastly, resolve how, uses and [1:37:21] safety issues related to [1:37:22] obsolete buildings. [1:37:25] >> So I move item 5.11. Brent [1:37:30] Cowan. District 8. [1:37:31] >> Seconder? [1:37:35] >> All in favour? [1:37:37] >> If I may? What is not written [1:37:42] in that by law and I have asked [1:37:46] for at least eight years -- I [1:37:51] will get under ten years -- is [1:37:55] that the replacement plan is not [1:38:04] -- it has nothing to do with the [1:38:08] demolition. Finally, I got that, [1:38:11] it took a while but now the [1:38:16] committee cannot state after [1:38:19] seeing the plans. I was told [1:38:23] that you will see a volumes and [1:38:26] site planning no reshapes or [1:38:33] things like that. I am really [1:38:34] happy about this. [1:38:37] - Donc, vous votez pour, [1:38:38] Monsieur Cousineau? [1:38:39] - Oui. [1:38:40] - Vous êtes pour? O.K.. >> 6.1 [1:38:48] Consider a request for revision [1:38:49] pertaining to the decision of [1:38:50] the Demolition Committee [1:38:51] regarding the refusal of the [1:38:52] demolition and of the programme [1:38:53] for the reutilization of the [1:38:54] vacated land of the immovable [1:38:56] located at 191 Du [1:38:57] bord-du-lac-lakeshore road. An [1:39:00] application for review of the [1:39:01] decision rendered on November [1:39:02] 14th, 2024 by the demolition [1:39:04] committee has been filed. This [1:39:06] decision refuses the request to [1:39:07] demolish the building as well as [1:39:09] the program of a realization of [1:39:10] the vacated land. The building [1:39:12] in question is not a heritage [1:39:14] building. The application for [1:39:15] review was received within the [1:39:17] time limits prescribed by the [1:39:19] bylaw. PC 20 and 18. In [1:39:22] accordance with article 38 of [1:39:23] the bylaw, Council must render a [1:39:25] decision on the demolition [1:39:26] request and the program of the [1:39:28] realization of the vacated land [1:39:29] as submitted to the demolition [1:39:30] committee. Council may appeal [1:39:31] the decision of the demolition [1:39:33] committee or render the decision [1:39:34] that the committee should have [1:39:36] rendered. [1:39:40] >> For 6.1 in 6.2 as well. [1:39:45] Est-ce qu'on a déjà eu 6,2? On a [1:39:49] fait les deux? Le deuxième? [1:39:52] - 6.2 Autoriser la participation [1:39:53] de certains membres du conseil, [1:39:54] ainsi que 2 employés aux assises [1:39:55] annuelles de l'Union des [1:39:56] municipalités du Québec devant [1:39:58] se tenir du 14 au 16 mai 2025, à [1:40:00] Québec. L'autorisation vise [1:40:02] monsieur le maire de même que [1:40:04] les [1:40:05] (---) [1:40:06] terres Stainforth est au stade [1:40:08] Colin. Les conseillers Eric [1:40:10] Stork et [1:40:11] (inaudible) [1:40:12] Bruno Tremblay et Brad Caron, [1:40:13] ainsi que la directeur général, [1:40:16] Karina Verdon et le directeur [1:40:19] adjoint [1:40:20] (inaudible) [1:40:21] . [1:40:22] - Alors, pour six points à six [1:40:23] points de vue... Do I have a [1:40:24] mover? [1:40:27] >> And seconder? [1:40:28] - Je veux m'adresser... >> Paul [1:40:31] Bissonnette. District 2. [1:40:34] >> Mayor, would you be surprised [1:40:37] -- precise for 6.1, what is the [1:40:41] decision for Council? From [1:40:43] Council, please? Is it possible [1:40:45] to do the vote for 6.1. I would [1:40:48] also need to know what is the [1:40:49] decision from Council. [1:40:50] >> Myself as well because I was [1:40:52] clear on a subsequent one but [1:40:56] 6.1 is. We are voting to support [1:40:58] the decision by either support [1:41:02] or uphold the decision of the [1:41:04] demolition committee. [1:41:05] >> Does Council uphold the [1:41:08] decision of the motion committee [1:41:12] or overturn the decision? [1:41:15] >> For 6.1, we are voting yay to [1:41:17] uphold and nay -- [1:41:20] >> We can just ask it in one [1:41:22] version. [1:41:23] >> Who is in favour. [1:41:24] >> All in favour of upholding [1:41:26] the decision of the demolition [1:41:27] committee? [1:41:28] >> Do I address Council before [1:41:29] we go to vote? Not Council. I [1:41:35] will object to that decision [1:41:38] even though I voted for not [1:41:41] demolish sheen previously. 5.11 [1:41:47] was not considered back then and [1:41:50] other reasons why I voted [1:41:56] against the demolition, [1:41:58] originally, was trying to save [1:42:01] some material. The debate was on [1:42:04] another level so I will be [1:42:07] voting against. [1:42:10] >> We are about to vote. [1:42:12] >> You know what I mean. [1:42:16] >> Maybe we do not know what you [1:42:18] mean, Claude Cousineau. Could [1:42:19] you be more specific? [1:42:21] >> I will be voting against the [1:42:27] committee's decision. [1:42:30] >> So you want to overturn the [1:42:33] motion committee decision? [1:42:34] >> Yes. [1:42:35] >> Thanks. [1:42:36] >> We are going to have the vote [1:42:38] right, now are we? Pour 6,1... [1:42:40] All in favour of supporting the [1:42:42] -- [1:42:43] >> I could just. I want to make [1:42:46] something clear. Legally, the [1:42:48] decision that we are making [1:42:50] today is to uphold the decision [1:42:54] by demolition committee with the [1:42:56] information provided at the [1:42:59] time. Obviously the gentleman [1:43:01] who introduce himself earlier is [1:43:04] questioning some reports and [1:43:07] such. We are bound by the fact [1:43:09] to make the decision based upon [1:43:11] that information even though you [1:43:12] disagree with it. The important [1:43:14] thing here is if you want to put [1:43:16] into question the information, [1:43:19] you can do so. From us, we [1:43:21] cannot make a decision based on [1:43:23] other factors. We have to look [1:43:24] at the information that is [1:43:27] provided. Hopefully that makes [1:43:30] sense but I'd be more than happy [1:43:32] to explain it to you after. What [1:43:33] I'm trying to say is that [1:43:36] whatever information is provided [1:43:38] by the demolition committees [1:43:39] what we have to base it on. An [1:43:41] opinion, second thought, I did [1:43:42] this, way I did, that we have to [1:43:43] go off of the information that [1:43:45] is provided. If you question [1:43:47] that information provided, that [1:43:48] is something that should be done [1:43:50] further down the line. Hopefully [1:43:53] that makes sense. [1:43:55] >> Can I add just a very short [1:44:00] thing? This is not my first [1:44:02] rodeo. I can bring up some [1:44:05] addresses and it's so, so [1:44:08] arbitrary that it's not fair for [1:44:10] the citizens, for the owner. [1:44:13] That is why I am voting against. [1:44:20] To overturn the decision, [1:44:23] whatever the vote is. [1:44:29] >> All in favour of supporting [1:44:31] the decision of the demolition [1:44:34] committee? [1:44:39] All against? [1:44:50] >> 6.2 for some? You know hot [1:44:52] for 6.2. [1:44:53] >> Do I have a mover? [1:45:00] >> Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [1:45:02] >> And seconder? [1:45:06] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [1:45:07] >> Of a very? I'm against? [1:45:17] >> Organizations from the meld [1:45:19] and pretty much 6.3 dollars [1:45:20] Grant a financial support to [1:45:21] various non-profit organizations [1:45:22] for a total amount of $ 8,935. [1:45:23] The organization's concerns are [1:45:24] as follows, Via Association [1:45:27] (---) [1:45:28] Mark Vanier est une, Fondation [1:45:29] Yvon Lamarre, l'habitation [1:45:31] jeunesse de l'ouest de l'île. [1:45:35] - 6.4 Autoriser la participation [1:45:36] des membres du conseil au [1:45:37] congrès annuel de la Fédération [1:45:38] Canadienne des Municipalités [1:45:41] devant se tenir du 29 mai au 1 [1:45:42] juin 2025, à Ottawa. [1:45:44] L'autorisation vise monsieur le [1:45:45] maire de même que Madame les [1:45:47] conseillères Table Austin forte [1:45:48] et Kelly Thorstad-Cullen. [1:45:50] Messieurs les conseillers Eric [1:45:51] Stork, Claude Cousineau, Bruno [1:45:53] Tremblay et Braun Caron. [1:45:56] >> For 6.3 and 6.4, do I have a [1:45:59] mover? [1:46:01] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. [1:46:02] >> And seconder? [1:46:04] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [1:46:05] >> You all in favour? [1:46:07] >> Thank you. [1:46:08] >> 7.1, for the minutes of [1:46:09] October 23rd 2024 meeting of the [1:46:13] youth advisory board. [1:46:14] - 7.2 Déposer le procès-verbal [1:46:15] de la réunion du 27 novembre [1:46:16] 2024 du Comité consultatif [1:46:17] jeunesse. 7.3, to file the [1:46:23] minutes of the November 28, [1:46:24] 2024, meeting of the [1:46:25] Pointe-Claire Public Library [1:46:26] Advisory Board. [1:46:29] - 7.4 Nommer des membres au sein [1:46:30] du Comité consultatif Stewart [1:46:31] Hall. Suite à des mandats... à [1:46:32] la fin des mandats de Cameron [1:46:34] Tilson et de Jones [1:46:35] (---) [1:46:36] le comité consultatif recommande [1:46:37] la nomination de deux nouveaux [1:46:39] membres, soit madame [1:46:41] (---) [1:46:42] et madame Claudia Oliver a pour [1:46:43] des mandats de trois, en soit du [1:46:44] 1er janvier 2025 ou 31 décembre [1:46:48] 2027. >> 7.5 Renew the mandates [1:46:51] of members of the Canoe Kayak [1:46:52] Club. These are the following [1:46:53] members, Archambault, Julie [1:46:59] Samson. [1:47:00] - Pour cette virgule quatre et [1:47:02] 7,5 [1:47:03] Do I have a mover. [1:47:05] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. [1:47:06] >> Seconder? [1:47:09] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [1:47:10] >> All of our? [1:47:11] - 8.1 Autoriser le paiement d'un [1:47:12] montant de 41 522,20 $, [1:47:13] représentant la cotisation [1:47:14] annuelle à l'Union des [1:47:15] municipalités du Québec, et ce, [1:47:16] incluant la cotisation au [1:47:17] Carrefour du capital humain. >> [1:47:18] Thank you. [1:47:28] >> 9.1 Exercise the renewal [1:47:29] option provided for in the [1:47:30] contract entered into with [1:47:31] SPÉCIALISTES DE LA TRADUCTION [1:47:32] R&R INTERNATIONAL INC., For the [1:47:33] year 2025, in the amount of $ [1:47:35] 79,746.66, taxes included, for [1:47:38] professional translation and [1:47:39] revision services. [1:47:42] - 9.2 Se prévaloir de l'option [1:47:44] de renouvellement prévue au [1:47:45] contrat intervenu avec PÉNÉGA [1:47:46] COMMUNICATIONS INC.pour l'année [1:47:47] 2025, au montant de 118681,79 $, [1:47:51] taxes incluses, pour des [1:47:52] services professionnels pour la [1:47:53] refonte, la sauvegarde et les [1:47:54] mises à jour du site Web et de [1:47:55] l'intranet. [1:47:58] - >> For 8.1, nine point to 9.2, [1:48:02] do I have a mover? [1:48:04] Bruno Tremblay, district six. >> [1:48:07] Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [1:48:08] >> And seconder? [1:48:10] >> Eric Stork you. District 7. [1:48:11] He [1:48:13] >> Then cute. [1:48:19] - 10,1. >> Budget amendment 10.1 [1:48:21] to find a list of budget [1:48:22] amendments and the register of [1:48:23] cheques for the period of [1:48:24] November 26, 2024, to December [1:48:25] 31, 2024. [1:48:34] - 10.2 Autoriser un soutien [1:48:35] financier à la campagne [1:48:36] Centraide 2024 au montant [1:48:37] équivalent à 75% de la [1:48:38] contribution des employés. La [1:48:39] contribution total s'élève à [1:48:40] (---) [1:48:41] avec un ajout de 75% de ses [1:48:42] contributions par la ville, soit [1:48:43] 14750 dollars et 86, la [1:48:47] contribution totale à Centraide [1:48:48] et de 34418 dollars et 67. >> [1:48:54] 10.3 Creation of residential and [1:48:56] non-residential building [1:48:57] subcategories for the [1:48:59] 2026-2027-2028 assessment role. [1:49:01] The act respecting municipal [1:49:03] taxation allows municipalities [1:49:04] to create subcategories of [1:49:06] renewables on the assessment [1:49:07] role. For taxation purposes, it [1:49:09] is therefore proposed to create [1:49:11] the following sub categories of [1:49:13] nonresidential immovable is [1:49:14] within the commercial category. [1:49:17] First category, superregional [1:49:19] cop shopping centre, 200 stores [1:49:20] or more. Regional shopping [1:49:22] centre which is 100 299 stores. [1:49:25] Local shopping centres, 49 to 99 [1:49:28] stores. Neighbourhood shopping [1:49:29] centres, from 15 to 44 stores [1:49:31] and also neighbourhood shopping [1:49:33] centre with 14 storms or less. [1:49:35] And data hosting services. Four [1:49:37] residential buildings, it is [1:49:38] proposed to create the snow [1:49:39] category of six dwellings or [1:49:42] more. [1:49:44] - 10.4 Autoriser un amendement [1:49:45] budgétaire afin de transférer [1:49:46] des fonds pour couvrir les [1:49:47] postes budgétaires déficitaires [1:49:48] du service des Travaux Publics [1:49:49] et Immeubles. Le montant du [1:49:50] transfert et de 67300 dollars [1:49:52] transférés à quatre postes [1:49:53] budgétaires différents. [1:49:55] - Alors, pour une 10,2 à 10,4. [1:49:59] Do I have a mover? [1:50:03] >> Bruno Tremblay. So district [1:50:04] 6. [1:50:05] >> Seconder? [1:50:07] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [1:50:08] Or [1:50:09] >> A line favour? [1:50:13] >> 10.5 Exercise the renewal [1:50:14] option provided for in the [1:50:15] contract entered into with [1:50:17] GROUPE D'IMPORTATION ET [1:50:18] DISTRIBUTION HUGO INC. Also [1:50:21] known as [1:50:22] (PROMOTION PLUS) [1:50:23] , for the period of February 1, [1:50:24] 2025, to January 31, 2026, in [1:50:26] the amount of $ 59,866.67, taxes [1:50:28] included for the supply of work [1:50:30] clothes for blue collar workers. [1:50:36] - 10.6 Octroyer un contrat pour [1:50:37] des services d'entretien et [1:50:38] d'assistance technique des [1:50:39] logiciels Biblio Mondo, à [1:50:40] Inmedia Technologies, pour les [1:50:41] années 2025, 2026 et 2027, pour [1:50:43] un montant total de 160 904,32 [1:50:44] $, taxes incluses. Bobby Homan [1:50:50] d'eau et le système de [1:50:52] bibliothèque intégré qui [1:50:54] contrôle les acquisitions, le [1:50:56] catalogage, les publications en [1:50:57] tout genre. Les tout [1:50:58] (---) [1:50:59] de sécurité quant aux prêts et [1:51:01] le portail Web de la [1:51:03] bibliothèque et les services aux [1:51:05] clients. >> 10.7 Award a [1:51:07] contract for Azure backup and [1:51:09] recovery for the years 2025 to [1:51:10] 2028, to ITI INC. For a total [1:51:12] amount of $ 376,299, taxes [1:51:15] included. The proposed [1:51:19] resolution will replace -- the [1:51:21] proposed solution, sorry, will [1:51:23] replace our current backup [1:51:24] system and will also enable [1:51:25] secure backup and recovery in [1:51:26] the air gap cloud. The City has [1:51:28] joined the group formed by the [1:51:32] since 2022 in this contract is [1:51:34] within the framework of said [1:51:37] group. [1:51:39] - 10.8 Octroyer un contrat pour [1:51:40] l'achat des licences VMWARE pour [1:51:41] l'année 2025, à SOFTCHOICE LP, [1:51:43] pour un montant total de 99 [1:51:45] 338,40 $, taxes incluses. Les [1:51:50] licences [1:51:51] (---) [1:51:52] incluent le support et entretien [1:51:53] de nos systèmes vidéo [1:51:57] (---) [1:51:58] et nos serveurs est assez pour [1:52:01] l'année 2025. Le support et [1:52:03] entretien couvre le système de [1:52:07] virtualisation [1:52:08] (---) [1:52:09] la majorité des employés. >> For [1:52:13] 10.5 to 10.8, do I have a mover? [1:52:19] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [1:52:20] >> Seconder? [1:52:22] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. [1:52:24] >> All in favour? [1:52:30] >> Madeleine 11.1 Approve a deed [1:52:31] of sale to be entered into with [1:52:32] the ministère de [1:52:33] l'Environnement, de la Lutte [1:52:36] contre les changements [1:52:37] climatiques, de la Faune et des [1:52:38] Parcs, regarding lot 6 505 648 [1:52:39] of the Cadastre of Québec. Part [1:52:40] of the car lot will be to come [1:52:44] lot 600 58 in its acquisition [1:52:46] will become the city owner of [1:52:47] the entire park. [1:52:55] - 12.1 Déposer la liste des [1:52:56] changements au personnel par [1:52:57] décisions déléguées pour le mois [1:52:58] de janvier 2025. >> 12.2 Approve [1:52:59] the list of non-delegated staff [1:53:01] changes as of January 14, 2025. [1:53:02] 13. Inspection et sécurité [1:53:05] - Pour 11,1 à 11,2 [1:53:08] Do I have a mover? [1:53:11] - Je propose d'approuver la [1:53:13] liste des changements au [1:53:15] personnel. >> And seconder? [1:53:18] - Oui, je les ai comme mélangé. [1:53:21] C'est comme moitié phrase pour [1:53:23] le un et le deux. Je veux que je [1:53:25] le répète? Déposer la liste des [1:53:27] changements personnels et [1:53:28] approuver la liste des [1:53:29] changements au personnel. [1:53:31] - 11,1 aussi. [1:53:33] - Je suis désolé. [1:53:34] (rires) [1:53:36] - Et approuvé un acte de vente. [1:53:38] (rires) [1:53:40] - Thera c'était une forte, [1:53:42] district IV. >> And seconder. [1:53:45] >> Eric Stork. District 7. [1:53:46] >> All in favour? [1:53:48] >> Thank you. [1:53:54] - 14.1 Se prévaloir de l'option [1:53:55] de renouvellement prévue au [1:53:56] contrat intervenu avec MARIO C. [1:53:57] ET FILS [1:53:58] (9042-0845 QUÉBEC INC.) [1:53:59] , pour l'année 2025, au montant [1:54:00] de 80 160,57 $, taxes incluses, [1:54:01] pour des travaux d'entretien [1:54:02] horticole et de plantation à [1:54:03] taux horaire. Ce contrat permet [1:54:04] le maintien et la pérennité des [1:54:06] aménagements constitués de [1:54:07] vivaces et d'arbustes dans les [1:54:09] parcs et espaces verts sur le [1:54:11] territoire de la ville. [1:54:14] >> 14.2 Exercise the renewal [1:54:15] option provided for in the [1:54:16] contract entered into with MARIO [1:54:17] C. ET FILS, for the year 2025, [1:54:20] in the amount of $ 452 723,13, [1:54:22] taxes included for maintenance [1:54:23] and mowing of green spaces and [1:54:25] sports fields. This contract [1:54:28] provides for the mowing of green [1:54:30] spaces and sports fields on city [1:54:31] grounds as well as the edges of [1:54:33] Highway. The contract ensure [1:54:34] that grass areas are kept clean [1:54:36] by removing waste as well. [1:54:40] - 14.3 Renouveler le contrat [1:54:41] dans le cadre de l'appel [1:54:43] d'offres regroupé n° [1:54:45] 2023-8115-50 pour la location [1:54:46] des véhicules légers du Centre [1:54:48] d'acquisitions gouvernementales [1:54:50] à ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS CANADA, [1:54:52] pour un montant total de 109 [1:54:53] 638,25 $ taxes incluses, pour la [1:54:57] deuxième période du 1 février [1:54:59] 2025 au 31 janvier 2026. >> 14.4 [1:55:03] Award a contract for the supply [1:55:04] and the delivery of bulk [1:55:05] materials for the year 2025, to [1:55:08] MATÉRIAUX PAYSAGERS SAVARIA [1:55:09] LTÉE, for a total amount of $ [1:55:13] 59,354.37, taxes included. There [1:55:15] is contract covers a supply and [1:55:17] delivery of various mixes of [1:55:19] potting soil for the maintenance [1:55:20] of green spaces, sports fields, [1:55:22] floral arrangements, annual [1:55:26] flowers, perennials and shrubs [1:55:27] and for tree planting in the [1:55:28] city. [1:55:31] - 14.5 Octroyer un contrat pour [1:55:32] la fourniture et la livraison de [1:55:33] pièces d'égout et d'aqueduc par [1:55:34] lot pour l'année 2025, à [1:55:35] ST-GERMAIN ÉGOUTS ET AQueDUCS [1:55:37] INC. Pour les lots A, c'est, [1:55:44] bien E, G et I ), WOSELEY CANADA [1:55:45] INC. [1:55:46] (Lots B, F et H) [1:55:47] Et IRON4CITY pour le logis [1:55:51] (---) [1:55:53] pour un montant total de 402 [1:55:54] 304,43 $, taxes incluses. [1:55:55] (---) [1:55:56] Chacun des lots a été octroyé au [1:55:58] (---) [1:55:59] conforme de ce lot. >> 14.6 [1:56:02] Award a contract for the supply [1:56:03] and the delivery of a new [1:56:04] asphalt paver, to 9018-7980 [1:56:06] QUÉBEC INC. Honour [1:56:11] (INSTA-MIX) [1:56:12] , for a total amount of $ [1:56:13] 275,940, taxes included. This [1:56:14] contract is for the replacement [1:56:15] of the current asphalt paving [1:56:17] machine, which has reached the [1:56:18] end of his youthful life. [1:56:20] - Pour 14,1 à 14,6 Do I have a [1:56:24] mover? [1:56:25] >> Paul Bissonnette. -- But [1:56:28] Bruno Tremblay. District 6. You [1:56:29] >> Seconder? [1:56:31] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [1:56:32] What [1:56:34] >> I am against 14.1. I am [1:56:36] voting against 14.1 in 14.4. I [1:56:39] support all the others. [1:56:41] >> Duly noted. [1:56:46] - 14.7 Octroyer un contrat pour [1:56:47] des travaux d'arboriculture à [1:56:49] proximité du réseau électrique [1:56:50] pour l'année 2025, à ÉMONDAGE ET [1:56:52] ABATTAGE DIONNE INC., Pour un [1:56:53] montant total de 95 314,28 $, [1:56:56] taxes incluses, avec les années [1:56:58] 2026 et 2027 en option. [1:57:01] Puisqu'il faut être accrédité [1:57:02] par Hydro-Québec pour travailler [1:57:03] à proximité du réseau, une [1:57:05] entreprise spécialisée dans ce [1:57:06] type de travaux fournira un [1:57:08] service efficace aux citoyens [1:57:09] est requis. [1:57:11] >> 14.8 Award a contract for the [1:57:13] production and the delivery of [1:57:15] pre-assembled rain-water barrels [1:57:16] for the years 2025 and 2026, to [1:57:18] USD GLOBAL INC., For a total [1:57:20] amount of $ 43,644.51, taxes [1:57:21] included, with the years 2027 [1:57:24] and 2028 in option. In response [1:57:29] to the interest shown by [1:57:30] residents in sustainable [1:57:31] development and water [1:57:33] conservation and in particular [1:57:34] in obtaining rainwater barrels, [1:57:36] the city is committed to [1:57:37] supplying these barrels to [1:57:38] residents at a reduced price [1:57:40] compared to the market. [1:57:42] - 14.9 Approuver une [1:57:44] modification au contrat [1:57:45] intervenu avec LES SERVICES [1:57:46] PIERRE GOULET INC., Pour la [1:57:47] détection de fuites d'eau sur le [1:57:48] territoire de Pointe-Claire, [1:57:49] pour un montant de 1 149,75 $, [1:57:51] taxes incluses. Le but de cette [1:57:54] modification et de se conformer [1:57:55] à la demande de la direction de [1:57:56] la gestion stratégique de l'eau [1:57:59] municipale, des Affaires [1:58:00] municipales et de l'habitation [1:58:01] pour écouter sur une base [1:58:02] annuelle un minimum de 100 [1:58:04] boîtiers de services afin de [1:58:05] trouver les fuites sur les [1:58:06] branchement qui ne sont pas [1:58:07] toujours détectables par [1:58:08] l'écoute au poteau d'incendie. [1:58:11] >> 14.10 Approve a change order [1:58:12] to the contract within the [1:58:13] framework of the group purchase [1:58:15] no. 2023-8115-50 for the rental [1:58:18] of light vehicles from the [1:58:19] Government Acquisition Center [1:58:23] often known as the [1:58:25] (CAG) [1:58:26] to ENTERPRISE HOLDINGS CANADA, [1:58:28] for a total amount of $ 20 [1:58:29] 786,13, including taxes, for the [1:58:30] period from February 1, 2024, to [1:58:31] January 31, 2025. [1:58:37] - 14.11 Approuver une [1:58:38] modification au contrat [1:58:39] intervenu avec ZONE SST, pour [1:58:40] les services d'un conseiller en [1:58:41] santé et sécurité, pour un [1:58:42] montant de 31 274,56 $, taxes [1:58:45] incluses. Le service [1:58:48] (---) [1:58:49] est l'immeuble discontinue leurs [1:58:50] efforts et projets en cours avec [1:58:51] le même conseils en santé et [1:58:54] sécurité pour combler le manque [1:58:55] de personnel jusqu'à la fin août [1:58:58] 2025. [1:58:59] >> 14.7 to 14.11, do I have a [1:59:03] mover? [1:59:04] >> Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [1:59:06] >> And seconder? [1:59:07] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. To [1:59:09] >> All in favour? [1:59:12] >> 15.1 Award a contract for [1:59:13] inspection and repair work on [1:59:14] fire protection components for [1:59:15] the years 2025 and 2026, to [1:59:18] PRÉVENTION-INCENDIE SAFETY FIRST [1:59:19] INC., For a total amount of $ [1:59:21] 209,625.87, taxes included, with [1:59:22] the years 2027, 2028 and 2029 in [1:59:23] option. [1:59:28] The equipment covered by this [1:59:30] contract includes hydrants, [1:59:32] sprinkler systems, fire pump, [1:59:35] motors, sprinklers and fire [1:59:36] detection systems. [1:59:40] - 15.2 Approuver une [1:59:41] modification au contrat [1:59:43] intervenu avec CONSTRUCTION CPB [1:59:44] INC., Pour des travaux [1:59:45] d'agrandissement et [1:59:46] réaménagement des Travaux [1:59:47] Publics, pour un montant de 114 [1:59:48] 600,99 $, taxes incluses. Les [1:59:51] modifications incluent des [1:59:52] travaux d'architecture, [1:59:54] d'électricité, de structure et [1:59:55] de mécanique. [1:59:58] >> 16.1 Authorize the signing of [1:59:59] a consent form with Bell Canada [2:00:00] for the burial work of the Bell [2:00:02] network near the intersection of [2:00:04] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore Road and [2:00:05] Sainte-Anne Avenue. The purpose [2:00:06] of this resolution is to [2:00:07] authorize Mr. physiology, active [2:00:10] admissible engineering [2:00:11] department, to sign the consent [2:00:12] notice prepared by Bell Canada [2:00:13] for the burial of the Bell [2:00:14] Service is located on the three [2:00:16] Hydro Québec poles on behalf of [2:00:17] the City of Pointe-Claire. [2:00:20] - Pour 15,1 à 15,2, 16,1. Do I [2:00:25] have a mover. [2:00:27] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [2:00:28] >> And? [2:00:30] - Je vais voter contre le 15,2. [2:00:31] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [2:00:34] J'aimerais avoir l'opportunité [2:00:35] de m'expliquer. Depuis le début, [2:00:39] ce bâtiment-là aux Travaux [2:00:43] publics, j'ai voté contre [2:00:47] systématiquement. On est à près [2:00:48] de 2 millions de surplus avec... [2:00:52] en approuvant ce montant-là. Et [2:00:56] si vous vous souvenez, à 10,4, [2:01:01] on a loue des montants parce que [2:01:07] (---) [2:01:08] des immeubles, Travaux publics [2:01:11] est déficitaire. C'est pour ça [2:01:13] que je vote contre. Merci. [2:01:25] - Les personnes qui sont [2:01:26] présentes peuvent s'adresser au [2:01:27] Conseil concernant les items [2:01:31] 17.1 et 17.3. May address [2:01:34] Council Madam 17.1 and 17.3. On [2:01:41] continue. 17.1 Considérer une [2:01:44] demande de dérogation mineure [2:01:45] concernant la propriété située [2:01:46] au 245, [2:01:51] ... vous avez une question? [2:01:53] (rires) [2:01:57] >> I think you think you can [2:01:58] take the microphone away. [2:01:59] - Considérer une demande de [2:02:01] grâce [2:02:02] (---) [2:02:03] aux située au 245, boulevard [2:02:07] Brunswick [2:02:08] (anciennement 1-243 Frontenac) [2:02:09] , afin de permettre 27 espaces [2:02:10] de stationnement extérieurs [2:02:11] réservés aux visiteurs au lieu [2:02:12] du minimum requis de 43. [2:02:15] - Alors, pour 17,1. Do I have a [2:02:19] mover? [2:02:20] >> Eric Stork. District 7. What [2:02:22] >> Seconder? [2:02:26] >> Brent Cowan. District 8. [2:02:27] >> All in favour? [2:02:28] >> Thank you. [2:02:32] >> 17.2 Consider a minor [2:02:33] exemption request concerning the [2:02:34] property situated at 30 [2:02:35] Hillcrest Avenue. It is to [2:02:36] authorize an extension which [2:02:37] will result in the main building [2:02:38] having a lot coverage of 34% [2:02:39] rather than the maximum [2:02:41] permitted of 30%. [2:02:45] - Pour 17,2. Do I have a mover? [2:02:49] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [2:02:50] >> And seconder? [2:02:52] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. [2:02:53] >> All in favour? [2:02:56] >> What's the language we are [2:02:58] voting on? I approve minor [2:03:04] variance. I move it. [2:03:08] >> And Cynthia second it. All in [2:03:11] favour? All against? [2:03:27] - 17.3 Considérer une demande de [2:03:28] dérogation mineure concernant la [2:03:29] propriété située au 2800, [2:03:30] autoroute Transcanadienne [2:03:36] (sur l'immeuble portant le [2:03:38] numéro 2800A et ayant front [2:03:39] sur la voie de service sud) [2:03:40] . Pour permettre un appareil sur [2:03:41] le toit du côté est du bâtiment [2:03:43] qui n'est pas entièrement [2:03:44] dissimulé de la vue d'une [2:03:46] personne de 1 mètre 82 et de [2:03:49] grandeur, si tu es à la limite [2:03:50] de propriété, en bordure de [2:03:53] l'emprise publique, par un écran [2:03:54] visuel intégré ou emménager au [2:03:58] bâtiment. [2:03:59] >> For 17.3, do I have a mover? [2:04:02] >> Eric Stork. District 7. The [2:04:04] >> And seconder? [2:04:06] >> Brent Cowan to approve the [2:04:09] minor exemption. [2:04:10] >> All in favour? [2:04:15] >> Excuse me, Mister Mayor, [2:04:16] could we have the count that [2:04:20] happened at 17.2. It was not [2:04:22] clear. [2:04:23] >> It was moved to approve the [2:04:25] minor variance and voted [2:04:32] against. [2:04:33] >> Thank you. It just was not [2:04:34] clear on my end. Thank you very [2:04:36] much. [2:04:38] >> 17.4 Consider the site [2:04:39] planning and architectural [2:04:40] integration programme plans with [2:04:41] respect to the property situated [2:04:42] at 245 Brunswick Boulevard [2:04:44] (previously 1-243 Frontenac) [2:04:46] it is a new construction. [2:04:49] - 17.5 Considérer les plans [2:04:50] d'implantation et d'intégration [2:04:51] architecturale relatifs à la [2:04:54] propriété située au 50, avenue [2:04:55] du Golf. Pour des modifications, [2:04:57] des plans déjà approuvées [2:04:59] concernant la porte d'entrée et [2:05:00] la porte de garage. [2:05:02] >> 17.6 Consider the site [2:05:04] planning and architectural [2:05:05] integration programme plans with [2:05:06] respect to the property situated [2:05:07] at 30 Hillcrest Avenue. It is a [2:05:09] Brandon exterior renovations. [2:05:12] - 17.7 Considérer les plans [2:05:13] d'implantation et d'intégration [2:05:14] architecturale relatifs à la [2:05:15] propriété située au 5, avenue [2:05:16] Jervis Bay. Pour une démolition [2:05:18] et une nouvelle construction. [2:05:20] >> 17.8 Consider the site [2:05:21] planning and architectural [2:05:22] integration programme plans with [2:05:23] respect to the property situated [2:05:24] at 96 Montrose Avenue. It is the [2:05:28] installation of solar panels. [2:05:31] - 17.9 Considérer les plans [2:05:33] d'implantation et d'intégration [2:05:35] architecturale relatifs à la [2:05:36] propriété située au 50, avenue [2:05:37] Parkdale. Pour des rénovations à [2:05:38] l'extérieur. [2:05:40] >> 17.10 Consider the site [2:05:41] planning and architectural [2:05:42] integration programme plans with [2:05:43] respect to the property situated [2:05:44] at 20 Victoria Avenue. They are [2:05:47] exterior renovations. [2:05:48] - Pour 17,4, 17,10. Do I have a [2:05:52] mover? [2:05:53] >> Cynthia Homan. District 5. [2:05:55] >> And seconder? [2:05:59] >> Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [2:06:00] >> All in favour? [2:06:02] - Je suis contre le 17,6 parce [2:06:05] que j'étais contre le 17,9. [2:06:11] - O.K.. [2:06:16] - 17,11. [2:06:19] - 17.11 Adopter un premier [2:06:20] projet de résolution pour un [2:06:21] projet particulier de [2:06:22] construction, de modification ou [2:06:23] d'occupation d'un immeuble car [2:06:26] (PPCMOI) [2:06:27] au 27, avenue Salisbury [2:06:29] (anciennement le 222, [2:06:30] Autoroute 20) [2:06:31] autorisant la construction d'un [2:06:32] salon funéraire. En raison de [2:06:33] l'incendie, le bâtiment a perdu [2:06:34] les droits acquis dont il [2:06:36] bénéficiait. La reconstruction [2:06:38] d'un salon funéraire tel que [2:06:39] présenté déroge aux dispositions [2:06:41] du Code villageois. La Ville [2:06:43] doit donc se prononcer sur une [2:06:44] demande effectuée en vertu du [2:06:47] Règlement PC 29 57 sur les [2:06:51] (PPCMOI) [2:06:52] . [2:06:55] >> 17.12 Adopt a first draft [2:06:56] resolution for a Specific [2:06:57] Construction, Alteration or [2:06:58] Occupancy Proposal for an [2:07:01] Immovable [2:07:02] (SCAOPI) [2:07:03] at 1890 Des sources boulevard [2:07:06] authorizing the construction of [2:07:07] a new building and the [2:07:08] redevelopment of the Manitoulin [2:07:09] Transport site, in several [2:07:10] phases. The company has [2:07:12] submitted an application under [2:07:15] bylaw governing specific [2:07:16] instructions, operational [2:07:18] occupancy proposals for removal [2:07:20] in order to carry the project [2:07:21] the deviate from the zoning by [2:07:24] law for the purpose of expanding [2:07:26] in reorganizing its operation. [2:07:30] - 17.13 Adopter un premier [2:07:31] projet de résolution pour un [2:07:32] projet particulier de [2:07:33] construction, de modification ou [2:07:34] d'occupation d'un immeuble au [2:07:37] 11-15, avenue Water's Edge [2:07:38] autorisant la construction d'un [2:07:39] nouvel immeuble multifamilial de [2:07:40] 3 étages comprenant 16 unités [2:07:42] d'habitation. La demande telle [2:07:44] que présentée fait l'objet d'une [2:07:46] demande de recommandations... [2:07:48] fait l'objet d'une [2:07:50] recommandation défavorable du [2:07:52] CCU et vous recommandé de [2:07:54] refuser le projet. [2:07:57] >> For 17.11, is 1712 and 17.13, [2:08:02] and may I remind the Council [2:08:04] that at 17.13, we are voting who [2:08:08] votes in favour of refusing the [2:08:11] project. We are voting -- if you [2:08:13] are voting in the affirmative, [2:08:16] it's to refuse the project. [2:08:18] - Pour 7,11, 7,12, sept virgule [2:08:21] Thera. Do I have a mover? [2:08:26] >> Brent Cowan. District 8. Hi [2:08:27] >> And seconder? [2:08:31] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [2:08:32] >> All in favour? [2:08:33] - Monsieur Cousineau? [2:08:36] - 17,12, 17,13. [2:08:41] - Vous votez contre 17 virgule, [2:08:43] 12 17,13? Vous êtes en faveur de [2:08:46] 17,11? [2:08:47] - Oui. [2:08:50] >> Those against? [2:08:51] - Alors, pour 17,11 contre [2:08:57] 17,12... [2:08:58] - Juste un instant. [2:09:01] - Je pense que je vais suggérer, [2:09:03] pour être certaine de faire un [2:09:06] point... [2:09:07] - Au coeur, pour 7,11. [2:09:12] All in favour? - 17,2. [2:09:18] All in favour? - Monsieur [2:09:22] Tremblay a voté contre 17,12, [2:09:23] parfait. [2:09:25] >> Those against? We are getting [2:09:29] those against, it might help us. [2:09:32] 17,13. All those in favour of [2:09:36] voting in refusing the project? [2:09:38] Those against? [2:09:40] - Vous êtes d'accord pour [2:09:41] refuser le projet, Monsieur [2:09:43] Cousineau? [2:09:44] (inaudible) [2:09:45] La manière que monsieur le maire [2:09:46] l'a présenté. [2:09:47] - Vous êtes d'accord pour [2:09:48] refuser le projet? [2:09:49] - Oui. Il devrait prendre des [2:09:52] médicaments avant de venir... [2:09:53] - Monsieur Tremblay, vous êtes [2:09:55] d'accord de refuser 17,13. [2:09:57] >> Should be doing a thorough [2:09:58] time to make sure? [2:10:06] 18.1 Award a contract for the [2:10:07] supply and the delivery of [2:10:08] French and English library books [2:10:09] for the year 2025, to LIVRES [2:10:10] BABAR INC., LIBRAIRIE CLIO, [2:10:12] PARAGRAPHE, LIBRAIRIE MONET, [2:10:14] LIBRAIRIE RAFFIN and LIBRAIRIE [2:10:17] DE VERDUN, for a total amount of [2:10:18] $ 295,000, taxes included. It is [2:10:21] to meet the needs of its [2:10:22] clientele in 2025, the library [2:10:24] will purchase books in French [2:10:25] and English for adults and [2:10:26] children from approved [2:10:27] bookstores in the Montréal area [2:10:29] as prescribed by the act [2:10:31] respecting the development of [2:10:32] Québec firms in the book [2:10:33] industry. [2:10:35] - 18.2 Approuver une entente à [2:10:36] intervenir avec Hockey West [2:10:37] Island Inc. Concernant un [2:10:38] partenariat avec l'association [2:10:39] sportive. Cette entente, de même [2:10:42] que celles mentionnées au point [2:10:46] 18,3 à 18,5 de l'ordre du jour, [2:10:49] établit la répartition des [2:10:51] responsables tes entre la ville [2:10:52] et l'organisme afin d'assurer [2:10:54] l'habitation des normes en [2:10:56] vigueur et à la mise à la [2:10:58] disposition de l'organisme des [2:11:00] installations et du matériel [2:11:01] nécessaire pour la réalisation [2:11:03] de leur offre de services. Il [2:11:04] s'est inscrits dans la poursuite [2:11:08] du [2:11:09] (---) [2:11:10] améliorant et spécifiant le [2:11:11] soutien aux organismes [2:11:12] partenaires dans la réalisation [2:11:13] de leurs activités au bénéfice [2:11:14] des citoyens de Pointe-Claire. [2:11:19] >> 18.3 Approve an agreement to [2:11:20] be entered into with [2:11:21] Pointe-Claire Ringette [2:11:22] Association regarding a [2:11:23] partneship with the sports [2:11:24] association. [2:11:25] - 18.4 Approuver une entente à [2:11:26] intervenir avec Club de Patinage [2:11:27] de Pointe-Claire concernant un [2:11:28] partenariat avec l'association [2:11:29] sportive. [2:11:31] >> 18.5 Approve an agreement to [2:11:32] be entered into with Soccer [2:11:33] Pointe-Claire regarding a [2:11:34] partnership with the sports [2:11:35] association. [2:11:38] >> For 18.1 to 18.5, do I have a [2:11:42] mover? [2:11:43] >> I move to approve them all. [2:11:46] Tara Stainforth. District 4. The [2:11:47] >> And seconder? [2:11:52] >> Paul Bissonnette. District 2. [2:11:53] >> All in favour? [2:12:00] - 18.6 Approuver une entente à [2:12:01] intervenir avec la Commission [2:12:02] Scolaire Lester-B.-Pearson [2:12:03] concernant l'utilisation d'une [2:12:05] portion du terrain adjacent à la [2:12:06] cour d'école [2:12:08] (École secondaire Horizon) [2:12:10] pour l'installation d'un jardin [2:12:12] communautaire temporaire. [2:12:13] Fluctuations temporaire d'une [2:12:14] portion du terrain adjacent à la [2:12:16] cour d'école permettra [2:12:18] l'installation d'un jardin [2:12:20] communautaire et la tenue de [2:12:21] certaines activités culturelles [2:12:22] ou de loisirs, en lien avec la [2:12:25] présence de jardins [2:12:26] communautaires. [2:12:28] >> 18.7 Authorize a donation of [2:12:29] a family open paddle membership [2:12:30] to the Teresa Dellar Palliative [2:12:32] Care Residence. The residences [2:12:34] organizing a silent auction as a [2:12:36] fund-raiser for their annual [2:12:37] Valentine's Day ball on February [2:12:39] 14th, 2025. I have requested an [2:12:40] open panel membership as a [2:12:42] donation to raise funds for the [2:12:44] option. [2:12:46] >> I think we might separate [2:12:49] 18.6 from the two subsequent [2:12:51] because there will be votes [2:12:53] against. [2:12:54] >> You want to do 18.6 first? [2:12:55] >> You do not mind. For 18.6, do [2:12:57] I have a mover? [2:13:02] >> That is me. Bruno Tremblay. [2:13:05] District 6. For [2:13:06] >> Seconder? [2:13:08] >> Eric Stork. District 7. [2:13:09] >> All in favour? That was [2:13:14] against? [2:13:21] >> I just want to point out I do [2:13:23] not have nothing against [2:13:24] community gardens, but with the [2:13:25] information we received on this [2:13:27] particular project, I cannot [2:13:28] vote in favour. Thank you. [2:13:30] >> I'd also like to speak. I [2:13:32] agree. I am not against [2:13:34] community gardens. Anyone that [2:13:35] knows me, I love and fought for [2:13:38] community gardens for a long [2:13:39] time, unfortunately, how this [2:13:40] was presented to us, I could not [2:13:42] vote consciously in favour until [2:13:43] some adjustments were done, [2:13:45] which was not how it turned out. [2:13:47] That is why I voted against it. [2:13:52] - Pour appuyer monsieur [2:13:53] Bissonnette et madame Homan, il [2:13:57] nous manque beaucoup [2:13:59] d'informations avant d'approuver [2:14:00] ou des approuver. [2:14:11] >> Can we get a get a [2:14:15] clarification. I think it was [2:14:16] carried 4 to 3? [2:14:18] - 18.8 Autoriser la [2:14:19] participation d'une employée au [2:14:22] 1er Sommet de la pagaie organisé [2:14:23] par la Fédération internationale [2:14:24] de canoë devant se tenir du 27 [2:14:26] février au 2 mars 2025 à [2:14:29] Hangzhou, Chine. [2:14:32] (Aucune dépense ne sera [2:14:33] engagée par la ville pour [2:14:34] cette participation) [2:14:35] . La Fédération internationale [2:14:36] de canots et inviter madame [2:14:37] Émilie fournir, responsable du [2:14:38] club de canoë-kayak, à cet [2:14:40] événement. Les frais de [2:14:41] déplacement sont payés par la [2:14:43] Fédération internationale de [2:14:44] canots et. Madame fournaises [2:14:45] siège actuellement sur le Comité [2:14:48] de planche à pagaie, chapeauté [2:14:49] par cette fédération. [2:14:53] - Pour 17,8, et 17,8 [2:14:54] (---) [2:14:55] . Do I have a mover? [2:14:59] >> Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [2:15:01] The [2:15:02] >> And seconder? [2:15:03] >> Eric Stork. District 7. [2:15:05] >> All in favour? [2:15:10] >> Pleasure. [2:15:11] >> Foreclosure. Do I have a [2:15:13] mover? [2:15:14] >> Tara Stainforth. District 4. [2:15:15] >> And seconder? [2:15:18] >> Bruno Tremblay. District 6. [2:15:19] >> All in favour? Welcome to [2:15:21] 2025, folks. Merci beaucoup.