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Il y en a deux. Je crois. Non. Merci. Mesdames,
Messieurs, Bonsoir.

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>> Oui, Mesdames et Messieurs. Bonsoir. On
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Report Council. Karen. Bonjour tout le monde!
J'ai assisté. >> À plusieurs événements
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jour de Pointe-Claire. Deux exactement et le
premier était l'un des internationals cuisine

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That was a great success I enjoyed myself.
It's great to see all the different but that's

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the small business that were showing off there
were the dancers. It was just a great

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time. Et le deuxième, c'était le. C'était
quoi? C'était le rendez vous des To where
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go to show off my cute little mini dutch and
so that was a very enjoyable and the last

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thing that I would like to since you're all
here to point out is when you leave eventually
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will go through the foyer downstairs and have
a look at the exhibit and the history of

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local democracy here and there and have a good
look at the time. The ceremonial chain of

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office, which was i looked at its very impressive.
It was a centennial gift given to the

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city in sixty seven by the chevalier, the globe
and the links on the chain are for the

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links and each link was is the crest representation
of some organizations within the

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institution within the city for example the
Rotary club, The club the Army. Cadets or the
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cadets those kinds of groups. I think the symbolism
of that of the relationship between all

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these organizations and my government is very
powerful and it's really nice looking to have

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a look at it. >> Conseille Cousineau. >> Nothing
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>> That I will I will speak on item 6.3. Thank
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>> Good evening. Bonsoir. I just to the construction
and life is going very well. They have a

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thanks to accommodate the people the contractor
the fantastic use water and now I knew substances

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to keep the dust down and so it's going along
very well and the parc Lansdowne Park is open

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now finally, except for the five two of five.
I think it is but now, that's it. Thank you.

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>> Before, I don't have the name of the period.
Council warming. >> Good evening. Bonsoir tout
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monde. It's nice to see some very new faces
to the council. So I hope that you'll learn
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new things and what happens at the council
meeting. I want to let you know because I know

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there are people here who are concerned about
what the city is doing this is what happened
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July thirteenth. There is going to be a information
center of session on September the temps.

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If you go online you have to register because
we have to know how many people are going to
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there because it could be enlarged numbers
and if we need to get a larger space we will

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right now. It's been targeted for the best
of one nautical center and it's going to be

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September the starting at seven PM. So I encourage
you to come there was gonna be a wonderful

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presentation on situation that are happening
and there will be there that can help answer
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questions so I really hope you as many people
as possible we'll show up for that it's september

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and if you go online. You can register, that's
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>> Conseillé Tremblay. Cancer. Stade Colon.
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mentioning the flooding session that will take
place I've seen it along too many of those

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concerned and why because I also received many
concerns I didn't want to give and updates
that is

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about it, but I've been receiving quite a few
questions about the old post office. So

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I'll just need you a little infolettre that
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many people would like to have this information
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ont contacté moi pour poser des questions
sur le développement de l'ancien site de Postes

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Canada. Le site deviendra une épicerie pis
c'est une épicerie. Il y a beaucoup de bonnes

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informations de l'épicerie. Le site n'augmentera
pas en hauteur mais restera à sa hauteur

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actuelle. Il y a quelques changements à l'extérieur,
de sorte qu'ils doivent être

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effectués pour faciliter la transformation
de cette épicerie. Et il y a aussi des

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changements pour les sentiers pédestres. Mais.
Il y a un sentier piétonnier de

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remplacement sera installé conformément pour
faciliter tous les accès à la traîne et
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village de Valois, etc. So just highlight in
English that quite a few residents have reach
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about the old previous post site and I did
this summary to those living close to the sight
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had questions and had reach out to me on the
side, we'll be becoming a grocery store and

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I've heard a lot of great information that
it's a wonderful grocery store to have

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in our community the site will not be increasing
and if that we're remain at the existing

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right there are Fiou, Fiou site change on the
exterior that need to care to facilitate the
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becoming the grocery store and there will also
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replacement walking path will be installed
to make sure that there is access into the
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and into the train as many people walk through
that sight so I thought that we're just be

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good to share as there many questions and if
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Thank you. >> Thank you. Mesdames, Messieurs,
bonsoir! Bienvenue à

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la séance ordinaire du pluies abondantes.
Certains citoyens et citoyennes et infrastructures

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municipales ont été éprouvés par les pluies
abondantes survenus le 13 juillet dernier.
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cette journée, ce sont plus de 70 à 100 mm
de pluie qui sont tombés, dont 57 mm en seulement

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1 h. Ces quantités représentent un événement
de pluie centennale. Veuillez noter que

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les équipes suivent les prévisions météorologiques
de près en tout temps et ajustent

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les opérations en conséquence. Les secteurs
sensibles du réseau de la ville sont connus
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inspectés régulièrement avant, durant et
après des événements météorologiques.
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d'épisodes de pluie, nos équipes effectuent
des vérifications en amont et des interventions
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nécessaire, dans les secteurs les plus sensibles.
Ils se déplaceront rapidement dans les

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secteurs les plus touchés. Lorsqu'un événement
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pour intervenir sur les infrastructures concernées.
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importantes ont lieu, nous effectuons une analyse
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d'évacuation des eaux pluviales. Nous remercions
toutes celles et ceux qui ont déjà pris le
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de nous faire part de leurs préoccupations
et observations sur les événements. Nous
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conscients des impacts que ces événements
météorologiques extrêmes peuvent avoir sur
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résidences et les infrastructures locales.
Nos équipes techniques analysent les

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causes et évaluent des options d'intervention
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territoire. De tels phénomènes climatiques,
qui autrefois étaient exceptionnels, sont
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plus en plus fréquents avec les changements
climatiques. Unfortunately, Bien que cet

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événement affecte l'ensemble de notre territoire,
soyez assurés que chaque situation qui nous

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est soumise est étudiée afin d'en relever
les particularités. Pour en savoir plus plus
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sujet, nous invitons Comme c'était à 12 h,
nous invitons toutes les citoyennes et les

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citoyens à la conférence Résilience climatique
et précipitations abondantes qui se

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tiendra le mercredi 10 septembre de 19 h à
21 h au Centre nautique Baie de Valois. Cette

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conférence axée sur la résilience climatique
face aux précipitations importantes, sera

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offert par les experts Marcel Gruau et Caleb
Marie de l'organisation. GFS à. J'aurais

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pas. Il s'agit d'une conférence qui a été
offerte dans d'autres municipalités et bien
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des participants. Il est important, il est
important de réserver votre place. Vous

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trouverez le formulaire d'inscription en ligne
sur le site web de la ville. Depuis

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plusieurs années, nous intégrons des solutions
durables dans l'élaboration de nos projets

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pour minimiser les impacts des changements
climatiques. Pour nommer que quelques exemples
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2017 un bassin, un bassin de rétention a été
implanté sur la piste cyclable du boulevard
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20 21 jardin de pluie a été créé au parc
Belmont en 20 25. Un saillies drainant a intégré
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l'aménagement de l'avenue Winthrop. Prochainement,
nous nous partagerons la liste de

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l'ensemble des infrastructures vertes sur le
site de la ville. La ville poursuivra ces

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initiatives afin de rendre le territoire toujours
plus résilient. Actuellement,

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actuellement, nous étudions et élaborons
un nouveau plan de gestion des eaux pluviales
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de prioriser et d'intégrer plus de mesures
de mitigation durable pouvant bénéficier
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du territoire. Pour approfondir nos analyses
post-événement, nous invitons les personnes
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ont été touchées à remplir un formulaire
pour nous partager leurs informations. Ces

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informations nous permettront d'ajouter ces
éléments aux études déjà en cours. Vous

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trouverez le lien du formulaire dans la section
Actualités sur le site web. Certaine residence

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and some of our municipal infrastructure were
affected by the heavy rain fall of July

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thirteenth on that day between two and a hundred
millimeters of rain, including fifty seven

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millimeters and just one our these quantity
representing hundred years rainfall event and

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unfortunately the second hundred years rainfall
event in two years our teams closely monitor

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weather forecast at all time and adjust operations
as needed the sensitive areas of the city

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infrastructures are well known and regular
inspections are performed before during and

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after weather events in addition when precipitation
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drainage zone are inspectors by our teams and
clean and if necessary which is what we did

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particularly with glennon, which is our well-known
when event occur similar to that of july

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thirteenth. WE will quickly moved to the infrastructure
most affected. WE would like to thank

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everyone is already taking time to share their
concerns en observation with us about the

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situation and the situation. They are we are
very aware of the impact that these extremes

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weather events can have on local home and infrastructure
our technical teams are analyzing

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the evaluating intervention to make our territory
more résilientes climatiques

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Phenomena such as these which used to be the
exception our becoming increasingly frequent

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as the climate change and we have pretty good
evidence of that today. I'll do this event

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effect the theory of our territory rest assured
that each situation submitted to us is

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examined in order to identify its specific
caractéristiques to learn more about this
topic all

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residents are invited to the climate resilience
and heavy rainfall lecture in the web

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nautical Center on Wednesday, September 30.
From seven to npm this lecture focusing on
climate

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resilience and the face of significant precipitation
will be presented by Marcel Roy and

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Khaled Marie experts from the gfca organization.
This lecture has been offered in other

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municipality where it is received positive
feedback from the participants involved it
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important to reserve your spot using the online
registration form on the city website for

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several years now we have been integrating
sustainable solutions. It to our project

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development to the impact of climate change
tout name a few examples in two thousand

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seventeen or retention basin was installed
under the bicycle path on im boulevard and
two thousand

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twenty one red garden was created in belmont
park and two thousand twenty five a drainage

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ledge was integrated into the winthrop avenue
Landscaping Green infrastructure projects

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used in intersection across North America.
Now there's starting to use it more and more

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at least of all green infrastructure will soon
be shared on the city website. This

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city will pursue its initiative to make the
region increasingly resilience. WE are currently

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studying and developing the New Storm water
management plant to prioritize integrated more

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sustainable mitigation measures that can benefit
the entire territory for more in-depth

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post-event analysis and those who have been
affected to complete the online forum to

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share information about their situation this
information will be added to the study underway.

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You can find the link to the forum in the new
section of the website of our website. On happy

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happy and. Aux Jeux du Québec et compétition
du 25 juillet au 2 août s'est tenue la finale
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Jeux du Québec à Trois-Rivières. Nous sommes
heureux d'apprendre que la délégation de

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Lac-saint-louis a terminé en première place
avec un total de 40 médailles, dont 25 ont
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remportées par les athlètes des clubs de
Pointe-Claire. Pas si pire. Félicitations
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performances exceptionnelles. Congratulations
on These Outstanding performance Au

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courant des prochaines semaines, les athlètes
des clubs seront en action dans plusieurs événements

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en natation. Les athlètes participants participeront
aux championnats mondiaux mondiaux

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juniors en Roumanie, aux Jeux du Canada, aux
Jeux universitaires mondiaux Fisu en Allemagne
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aux championnats mondiaux en eau libre à Singapour,
et plus et plus d'une trentaine d'athlètes

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du club de Canoë-kayak se rendront à Regina
pour les nationaux. Nous nous leur

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envoyons, envoyons tous nos souhaits de succès.
Le Quebec Games Finale We're here and in

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three Rivers Trois-Rivières from July twenty-fifth
to August and we are we were delighted to

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learn that the lac-saint-louis delegation finished
in first place with the total of the

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metal twenty five of which we are one by athletes
from Pointe-Claire Club Note and

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labelview, Pointe-Claire. I'm just just teasing
over the coming from the club will be in

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action at the number of events and swimming
athletes will take part in the World Aquatic
junior

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Swimming Championship in Romania, The Canadian
Games, The Fish You World University Games

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in Germany and in Open water Swimming at the
World, Aquatic Championship and Singapore and

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over thirty athletes from the canoe kayak club,
we'll be heading to regina for the

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national. WE wish them very much success. Les
journées de Pointe-Claire. Comme quand vous

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avez dit. J'espère que vous avez été nombreuses
et nombreux à profiter des différentes

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activités offertes dans le cadre des Journées
de Pointe-Claire. Pour avoir été présents
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quelques événements, je peux confirmer que
nous avons une belle quatrième édition et
nous

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avons hâte de voir qui nous attend pour la
pour l'année 2026. Je profite de l'occasion

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pour souligner le travail remarquable des équipes
de la ville qui rendent possible de

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tels événements. Merci pour votre engagement.
I hope that many of you took advantage of

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the very activity after as part of days having
attended a few events well more in a few quite

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a few I can see that we had a good for it and
we can't wait to see what's in store for twenty

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twenty five. I would like to take this opportunity
to highlight the remarkable work of

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the city teams who make such events possible
and we thank them for their commitment it

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just on a final of postmortem I wish I could
have been a little better than a couple of
them and

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I think it might have had something to do with
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something to do with our pancarté our coroplaste
seen that will probably put a few

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more up but other than that I think we did
quite well. Merci de votre attention. Thank
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for your attention, madame Thibault. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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>> 1.1 Adoption de l'ordre du jour. 1.1 Adoption
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>> De. >> District trois. >> 3.1 Approuver
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Procès-Verbal de la séance ordinaire du 8
juillet 2025. >> For the minutes to have a

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mover. District and secondary. >> District
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you and we have ninety minutes to begin we'll
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Alors, Derek, je m'excuse, Ryan. >> Lake Shore.
I'll make a quick, I was last month and is

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working. >> Better. >> Alright. So last month
when I

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was here at the question regarding the city
website Where is my demolition? I'm on the

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edge tonight. So where my demolition is posted
on the demolition website that not all

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the information that that was provided is there
and it's still not on there. The only the

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appraisal done by the city here with the president
company on their so my question for the

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council is today has the council seen my demolition
my structural engineer report my report from

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ark contractors who gives a price to renovate
the house to bring it up to standard and my

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architect report to what it would cost to bring
the house up to standard not to build new so

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is I'd like to know if all the council are
received and so those documents.

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>> I can't speak for all of them, but I'm pretty
sure. I'm pretty sure yet. Everybody

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Pretty much we were we had quite a pretty informed
discussion on your subject and if they have

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read it I'm shocked, because they certainly
had a lot to say. Thank. That looks like Gary
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Gary it looks like you he looks like a bit
sorry. >> Good evening, you know why

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I'm here. I'm still view last month when I
was here your city manager said I would come
up

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tonight on the agenda. I look not there so
what's happening We're at there is.

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>> A good question. Madame Verdon. >> You have
to remember what you

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know the subject? >> Oh the subject is the
day the truck turning off off I'm on the

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still you going north and that the wheels.
There was not enough room so the wheels. The
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wheels were jumping over the curb putting potentially
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>> The traffic. >> It was in the traffic committee
report. WE don't have

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it. >> You don't have it you don't have.

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>> It don't have the traffic committee report.
I will tell you what I know and that for

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starters. WE have moved the all the stop lines
and the directions so that people have

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to stop way further back so there is far more
room for the truck to make the turn they

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won't be they won't have to cut it right because
of traffic on the other side, we're back to

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quit far back so that there's enough room for
the truck to make the complete turn without

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jumping the cutting tight and jump in the curb
on that side so that I know for sure is happened

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the provincial legislation allows the truc
to be in the region. We've looked into that

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policing where they leave other city neighbouring
city won't allows us to write it into there

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there boundaries so we were somewhat limited
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looking in the other measure it could be observation
or surveillance. You know that

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there might be we could possibly do have some
surveillance police surveillance. We're looking
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the other measures, but that's all I know so
far even now, we have we haven't got it printed

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that's pretty much the update that I can remember.
>> Which is kirkland and. You're

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the one that have the school that the. King's
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>> Now, we'll be right This is what you referring
to get. >> Security so if there okay to

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put their students at risk that doesn't sound
pretty good. >> I mean well Kirkland would

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have your right I mean if the bank of Kirkland
students are hanging out on still view that

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would your argument makes sense our day because
they're not really at risk and in their more

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at risk and Kirkland are the north and that's
for the. That's what I mean. How are the coopers

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kids hanging out on that intersection. >> Okay,
okay at that light and

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when you got a truck coming up. Ok, you Bruno
was there and so the.

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>> Yeah well well, here's to think that you
might be willing to allow those truck's to
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and turn in kirkland so that's that's the option.
I see if we got it If we change it from that

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intersection, we could push it in the Kirkland.
With Kirkland it all that's the right of

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Kirkland. You you you make it sound like it
would be in your self interest which makes
sense

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but we can't guarantee that. That's another,
that's another city.

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>> Non. Were you put children at risk Yeah
Public security when they can come off. Right
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the service road comes down still view from
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>> Work and that it could you speak closer
to the microphone cause I think you're the
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thing and people at home can see it. >> And
I know that you have the

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right one in your council to put it up to stop
that for the road of traffic. If you put it
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Quebec. >> WE can't we can't do that from what
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I have to think he's not here. WE need. >>
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side that you're talking about it the fact
that we don't want people to enter in the box,
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the problem is still you and I must they are
already in that box of traffic. So even if
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are not working they can't do you know the
livraison de livraison local. So they will

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can turn and do you know the road that you
can do it so they will not change for your.

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>> If you're going to go with that you are
moving the. Back of the stop learn from you
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further you have where your light turning left
signal coming off still you turn left on the.

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Time you would have to extend that it's time
because you're going to pick up where you get

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in the turn left when you're gonna end up one
two people and especially in the winter when

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you're down to one you're gonna have a back
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>> Now you're making since I mean. I'm not
an expert but that that does seem to make sense.
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think we can leave that in the hands of the
expert. I mean they will determined that I'm
sure

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they won't make it dangerous so that's their
timing and their calculus but you and what
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saying makes sense to me as a person. >> What
is this? This traffic

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report do for you. >> And that's good question.
Madame Verdon. Next meeting

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maybe. >> I will follow up with my team. There
are you know, Mr

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right now so when it comes back I will ask.
>> You Ok, because we come to

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the end of the month kids are back in school
and I hate to see something happening before

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something is addressed so we come and see.
Look what happened.

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>> I can speak to Michelle Gibson. I mean.
I can only call him and ask what let him in
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the you see what he has to say I can't give
any guarantees but I can make a phone call.

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>> From you guys and myself we'll go to quebec
city there transport Quebec and see what I

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can make there. >> I love you to do that if
we see if we don't at this level.

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Thank you, mister car I appreciate it. Kathleen
Baxter. >> And counselor has many of you

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already you know that on August nignt twenty
twenty for home near idlewood and Terracotta

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avenue Flooded When public works the parking
lot overflow and some water drain failed water

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then rushed towards the drain channeling between
two rows of townhouse once idlewood pouring

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through basement Windows overwhelming French
drain saturated the water table and

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out passing our sump pump flow from Terracotta
Park Similarly overwhelming the drain and

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flooded Basement and another area of idlewood
claimed field by residences were denied by
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city, not even a year later on July thirteenth
twenty twenty five the same sequence of events

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repeated themselves with the same results from
first and experience field observation and

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expert consultation likely contributors included
bookstore in water drain insuffisant

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drainage due to the construction of synthetic
soccer fields expansion of the public works

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building the creation of a larger parking lot
for public works and I seemingly collapsed

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pipe corridors Along Terracotta avenue Evidence
by recovering things that have been repeatedly

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patches with concrete and gravel we. Many of
my neighbors are here and downstairs whitfield.

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The downstairs as well are here we were here
on behalf of the twenty-six president who road
to

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the city on July twenty for many have gotten
Basement field insurance claim and leave

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through months of repair only to face it again
less than a year later beyond inconvenience

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financial burden and the loss of insurance
coverage there's high anxiety about our home
and

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safety and the well-being of our family. There
is clearly a structural failure a local

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structural failure of the city storm water
systems in our area that record even with smaller

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rains as evidenced by emails send by my neighbors
max WE are there for asking the council for

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the following conformation with that the pipe
which failed to drain water on July thirteenth

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and are the responsibility of the third party
as mentioned on the city website August seventh

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are in fact in the terracotta corridor as well
and as explanation as why maintenance

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was not done to an update on what the immediate
interim measures have our will be taken

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in our area specifically before the next major
Rainstorm. Three I dated action plan for a

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comprehensive environmental Evaluation and
lasting remediation for that the city

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findings and clear timelines by published for
residence and finally number five the

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establishment of a transparent process to address
compensation for the damage encore by

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residence as a result of the city and or the
third-party negligence we want to work with

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the city, but only clear timelines published
in information and accountable

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leadership will prevent another repeat while
the council committed to this step tonight.

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>> All these are all great questions and. Council
and I were there fortunately were

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there to witness from the from the start and.
WE were quite quitte shocked by what we saw
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well, I can give you and what I might want
to give Cynthia chance. If she would like to

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speak to it as well and I have a lot of things
to say. I'm just giving cheese and experts
in

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this has been on it and very much on it for
a long time so. >> Hardly and export, but I'm

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glad most of you came this evening. I know
why I knew you were coming. I am I wish we
had

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coffee for you but we don't I understand. I
know this has been in extremis difficult time
and I

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written down exactly your request. I think
the administration has also I think

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we are absolutely committed to ensure that
we find ways to ensure that the pips and

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everything are clean and that's why we decided
to do this separate meeting so that we can

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have a lot of your questions answered and that's
what you know. I'm committed to doing

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whatever we can to make sure that it's your
area is being locked out as I have in the last

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twelve years glennon has been a big concern
for anyone who is over in that area what we
keep

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trying to find a way to prevent water coming
that way and now we are going to be looking
at

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inspiring that the network is clear out as
one of your request for sure and I feel that
we're

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taking the proper steps to move forward and
listen to your request in your german and so
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was gonna ask you If you could just email me
exactly what you wrote our perfect. Know you
you

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can bring it to them. I was gonna say. >> It's
the council meeting

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weird so it's. So that's so what. >> I know
personally that I am

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completely committed to ensure that we follow
through and listen to your concern as I

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think I've shown over the last month, I'm not
in engineer. I think max is probably much

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smarter than I am all of his concerns and so
as much as we can possibly do and will keep

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looking at it and listen to your concern and
some of your suggestions. So I've actually

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appreciated. Mr Tremblay emails because he
has really don't a job and he's so at my personal

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commitment and I'm sure council is committed
for other people that also have flooding in
the

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area it's all new for all of us as far as what
we can do so I don't know if that helps you

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answer it but I'm completely committed for
sure so I'll let them say something else.

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>> That you want to respond and. >> Your answer
without me. >> Ok, Ok, ok. Not enough. I

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just wanted. Yeah! I was there that day I watched
people buying literally belong to save the

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basement, which was pretty telling they. >>
Want I.

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>> Know, I know and having lost the whole bunch
of photoalbum and having been in the same

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business for twenty five years. I understand
the sadness and the power of that and I feel
for you

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guys and there is a problem and there is no
problem and not just I want back to the next
day and

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saddle wood up to belmont, all the way through
and there are people that and then the best

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they could with their home and they were still
getting flooded so it was heartbreaking and

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frustrating and what you know and I were standing
there one of my take away from that event was

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that and part of our process is to prioritize
city buildings when there being flooded as

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opposed to private residence and I think we
might want to change that depending on the
severity

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of things so that was my observation number
one. I've I've learned. And too much to my

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astonishment that we actually had actually
have in the public work works parking lots
they

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actually included when it was written by retention
basin. So what it was actually built to

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mitigate against flooding. I know it didn't
like that why did it and here's the thing there

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was a third-party issue and it was an anomalie
and it's the only area where we did find the

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anomalie and we have been working on that anomalie
right away and I got the responsible

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for you. I'll just tell you the speaker of
the house was involved and he did some great

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work and we are hopefully getting that one
resolved and the other of the third party or

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party. Our expeditionary getting on that and
we'll make sure that they do we have been working
on

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that diligently and you did suffer because
of it and so that's what I can ensure on that

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one. HAS to the maintenance. We're from what
I'm told we did examine our systems and a lot
of

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the system was and pretty good shape. I think
that the huge part of the problem. I think

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city with is that it's just simply not enough
and that's a huge issue.

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>> And the third party. Why not done. >> That's
a good question. It's

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a very good question I've been asked and it's
repeatedly ask so that's a very point question
and

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I can't speak much beyond that at this point.
I'm I have my share of legal difficulties in

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life and I don't want to say something that
will get me in trouble but that's a very good

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question. >> And what time line well, that's
a good.

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>> That's the very good question. >> What's
the weather app and

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our children have panic attack when there.
>> And that's all of us to try

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and make that clear to the third party, which
we've done our best to do whether they are
not with

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technically don't have the reality over them.
Maybe with time. WE can see how this all

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resolve but hopefully it'll be expedited quickly
that it sounds like it will be where we have

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every insurance that it'll be done now the
exact time line and it is a good question.
It's a

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very good question. I can't give it to you,
Unfortunately, I can't give you the time line.

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>> Appreciate the time line. This is it becomes
available to you.

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>> And if you are in your shoes. I want it
to. >> Available you know that we're

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going to continue to push. WE are not going
away. WE are going to continue to advocates
for

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ourselves. WE hope to get response the publication
on the website our response to one of

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our emails with the timeline and if not me
and my neighbour will be back next month.

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>> Now that's enough. I will tell you some
another little Didi, but you know again, I

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can't get by myself, but we are planning if
it goes through and I think it will major green

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infrastructure projects in your area and major
one that we hope will have a metagaming effect

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now when I'm not specialist in this but there
is one in the works and it's encouraging and

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you know if you're talking to see green infrastructure
is the immediate way to go you can't

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give up all the house and replace all of all
the people right away, but you can actually

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do things right away and green infrastructure
like right away or us and we've done the amount

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of the city and we're experimenting and learning
and exploring Now we that's all

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we've been doing since since last year, I will.
>> Understand and I've looked at

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all of the green projects and I appreciate
those I think as you are areas is a very specific

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Animate and the reason why we're approaching
this and a different fashion and hoping that
the city

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is gonna approach it in the different fashion
as well. You know we talked about that third

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party. We've talked about immediate remediation
actions timelines tbd, but is there any

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information regarding the collapse pipe along.
There is thirteen twenty probably areas

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of think all that have been filled in with
concrete and gravel along the green space

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behind the house on the saddle would we've
seen A Monsieur Tanguay has a PowerPoint

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presentation with images of that as well with
the question has to what has been going on
there one

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of my neighbours downstairs can attest to the
large think hall that was that was seen that
the

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corner of Donny. Jenny and terracotta this
spring, which was filled in by the city with

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gravel and concrete, which matches with many
of the other holder patches along terracotta

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avenue and that green space. And Terracotta
Avenue. So I'm sure that the city has record
of all

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of these patches throughout the years and that's
also a question to us as to the impact that
that

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may have also had on the green absorption of
the area or rather the lack of absorption so
by

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your reaction. I'm I'm I'm assuming that you
have not heard anything related to that it's.

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>> Not not myself personally I can. Sur le
staff madame Verdon, you know anything about
that

401
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one. >> Like I told you know your neighbor
today I ask for my

402
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public department and complete report you will
take a couple of weeks before I have that to
have

403
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all the recording and I prefer to have all
you know the data before answering any citizens
to

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be sure that I have the right and so you will
have eventually answered to that question,
but

405
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you just have to wait that you have a complete
report for the public work.

406
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>> Appreciate the timeline and the update.
Thank you good evening.

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>> Thank you very much and I'm sure of by the
green office structure projects it may not
be

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America's safe, but it is a nice and it is
an interesting project that we're we're working
on as

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we speak so. Okay. Keith Kelly. Okay. Lauren
Chiasson. >> I'm basically have the same

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story Except that we're between march and the
first sign up. Sorry stop gone now, but that's

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our area, it's a flood area, it's slightly
lower and the water doesn't clear it just it's

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so I know that my water is coming up from under
my house. It's just stepping up from under

413
00:43:52,080 --> 00:44:00,040
it's just from saturation. So that it's not
anything I could do about it It's gotta be
your

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sewers that it cause it's clean water. That's
coming in it's not sure so it's like a little
lake.

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So I mean. I got no more money left I gotta
do it again we've been flooded on the same
thing

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the night were flooded on the thirteenth. What
am I supposed to do now, you're not giving

417
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you're just giving us sympathy. I mean, we
need a timeline when and what is going to be
done.

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>> Well green structures because the lifting
of house and changing the sur system of a

419
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city is at the ten years time-frame, which
can't be done immediately and we have more

420
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than we have like six seven areas. WE are part
of what where it's really hard Alston gets
it

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there are other. Side of the there are part
of that get hit and we have a lot of work to
do

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ahead of us what happened here and people seem
to forget it is it's the we do have extreme

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weather events where water is coming down at
the level of a new century and we have peeping

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from the previous century and you can't just
rectify that right away.

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>> Of some kind of programs like help before
we want to one one I got the fire department
to come

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and tell me we can't do anything, it's the
city, I found the City Public works public

427
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,000
works as you got the phone the police. I mean
come on. I z block the two end of the streets

428
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because right now the cars are going through
and they're just flooding us and both sides

429
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because they just want to get through. They
don't think to go around another way, but they
are

430
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just going through some of them, they were
made it but that's too bad. But I mean can't
you get

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pampers in there to pump it and stop it from
going in and something. I mean you don't have

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to turn up the street right now, but least
help us well. >> That's it that was my logique

433
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two but I'm not an expert at this I watched
volunteer rescue use a lot of pumps and austin
my

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first year my first year in when Austin go
flooded and I'm wondering if we can do that.
But

435
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I'm not a pro and from what I understood like
when I thought the terracotta, the flood and

436
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:16,060
with terracotta flood. I thought we could get
a whole bunch of volunteer rescue pumps in
there

437
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:22,060
and trying pump it out, but it's not that simple
it keeps coming back. It's part of the prowl.

438
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:28,060
I'm not a pro at this so I can't give you the
right answer is it to say that there is an

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00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:32,060
immediate thing that we can do there's no magic
solutions. What we have is a natural disaster

440
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:38,060
acquiring and it's not that easy and there
is a simple solution and your city is not this

441
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:42,060
godlike miracle. You're too extreme weather
events. WE can do our best and we can throw
all

442
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:50,060
of all the resources that we have to at the
problem, but at some point sometimes it ain't

443
00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:54,060
enough and we have to find ways to deal with
this that we're getting overwhelmed our people

444
00:46:54,060 --> 00:47:00,020
are being overwhelmed by the quantity of rain
that they can't handle and that's there's no

445
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:04,020
other, there's no magic solutions. WE have
an international environmental

446
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:10,020
problems coming from climate change and global
warming that is overwhelming and city are not

447
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:14,020
your savior, They can do their best but. >>
WE do.

448
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:18,020
>> What we. >> Do as we do. >> What we do is
what you Do you

449
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:24,020
can you can try you can try and reverse negative
grade. You can you can do everything you can

450
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:28,020
and a lot of you have and it's still. >> Been
don't have all kinds of

451
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:34,020
money. I understand. >> I understand well as
I said all we can do this is our

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00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:40,020
resources to the best of our ability and are
the best of our ability right now is green

453
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:46,020
infrastructure, which is trying to bring out
the water slow it down capture it and make
sure it

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00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:50,020
doesn't overwhelm the home that are in danger
and that's the best. WE can do it the moment.
I

455
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:56,020
don't know. This is just as. >> I see. >> What
we're not we're not. WE

456
00:47:56,020 --> 00:48:04,080
are not miracle workers here This is the act
of nature. This is something that we can't

457
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:10,080
excuse me. Now now, this is out and bad shape.
There is just being overwhelmed some of them

458
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,080
probably are. >> We had our own citizens out
there and blocking I'm in the

459
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,080
water went through. From where. >> You understand
there were pretty good shape of this last

460
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:24,080
event and they were pretty well cleared the
only anomaly that we had that we identified
was the

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one at the bottom of terracotta that that was
created the pool of public works that was the

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00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,080
only area where there was a perceived blocage
the rest of it. WE had we've gone with

463
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:40,080
cameras, we checked all our people so the easy
solution is to blame the city and I

464
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:46,080
understand why that can be done, but please
understand that city and we're not the only
city that

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00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,080
we're not the only city. This is not clear
all by itself here This is everywhere and this
is

466
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,080
across north America, and you know we have
wildfire and newfoundland and for god's sake

467
00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,040
I mean we've got things going on right now
that the world has never seen before and to
think

468
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:06,040
that there's just an abracadabra presto. We're
actually that's avoiding. What the real issue
is

469
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,040
in the real issue is that we are suffering
the consequences of extreme weather events
that are

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the results of climate change and that has
to be acknowledged and that's not a cop out,
that's

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00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:22,040
true and to blame the city. I think this is
okay with the city, we'll take this

472
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:28,040
responsibility and do it's best but there's
a larger problem here and to avoid that your

473
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,040
problem is a problem is the problem because
if we don't start to realize that our

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00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:40,040
lifestyle and what we're doing is influencing
our climate and our weather and our planet.

475
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
We're missing the boat here and we have to
wake up and acknowledge that part two and

476
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:48,040
not just blame the city. WE have to realize
there's a bigger problem at work here and we

477
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,040
understand our jobs here and our job is to
try and do our best with our resources to solve
that

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00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,040
problems and I think my myself personally that
the way to do that is green f-structure and
to

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:04,000
try and slow down. Capture one out and sponge
as much water as we can to avoid house for
being

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00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,000
overwhelmed cause we can do that immediately.
WE can use those techniques immediately and

481
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000
that's what we're doing. And I can have a list
of the year of about for that we've put in

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00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,000
place in the last decade, which are pretty
good, we can do more and we have a couple couple

483
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:28,000
plan, but we are doing our best and my personal
solution would be to try and find your problem

484
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:34,000
areas and the city which we know and I have
lost in a few of them to you find out which
one we can

485
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,000
influence with green infrastructure and which
ones we can focus on great

486
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
infrastructure and try and expand accordingly
use our resources selectively and try

487
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:48,000
and do the best. WE can take the time in the
time frame available to us but that's all we
can do.

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00:50:48,000 --> 00:51:05,060
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. And volstad. Was
good alright.

489
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:11,060
>> Alright on mount between cedarwood and wood
and the West end.

490
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:21,060
>> Right in the heart of it. >> In the first
last year wasn't first I had I had. Rust in
peace

491
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:25,060
and two thousand fourteen of witnesses before
two thousand years of the corner of the

492
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:32,060
saddle Brook and Belmont fill up at least two
times my neighbors at the corner of the street

493
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:37,060
could probably give you the exact date because
he's been flooded out so Anyway. That it's

494
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:43,060
nothing new now. I understand that you have
some study underway mentioned that today

495
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:49,060
and in the last I should mention this my first
council meeting the only question period I've

496
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:57,060
ever heard was the one from I saw online from
last month and I hear you repeating over and
over

497
00:51:57,060 --> 00:52:03,020
again the foregone conclusion that green infrastructure
is the is the solution.

498
00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:13,020
>> It's not the solution. It's the most valuable
solution at the moment. The one of us. I

499
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:21,020
mean, I mean you can't. North America. Can't
give up every city and replace all this. It's

500
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:29,020
storm water systems. >> And I also I guess.
What would you tube and you had a

501
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:39,020
back and last week about you mentioned talked
about about the. Serious flood of. And you

502
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:47,020
said. Sex and the sex and that somehow was
the one where the quarry flooded so I think

503
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:55,020
that's. >> That one distinctly. >> Get home
at the time so and

504
00:52:55,020 --> 00:53:03,080
you're throwing numbers at hundred millimeters
and towers. That and we don't have you both

505
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:10,080
reached the conclusion that of course that's
because of the I've looked at the I've looked

506
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,080
at the number one the environment Canada website
which I think you've been doing as

507
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:21,080
well because we you mentioned inexact number
that I had written down earlier today so

508
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:29,080
and that tells us that so sorry for those numbers
say that in Pointe-Claire. WE had the

509
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:35,080
rainfall that Montreal did we had some fifty
six millimeters and twenty for our period.

510
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Unfortunately environment Canada doesn't give
the granularity of one hour of rainfall on
their

511
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,080
website for that far back, but we had half
the rainfall of Montreal so I think that we

512
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:53,080
might be jumping again a little bit to make
the link between the difference and flooding
now

513
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:59,080
versus now there's other things that have changed
this and to not only development you might

514
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:05,040
not that in the things. WE had the project.
Le projet d'assainissement des eaux, which

515
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,040
was going on through Quebec where they installed
the interceptors of the Southwest

516
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,040
interceptors that more or less runs long under
highway twenty and donegani were all our sewers

517
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:23,040
were connected. All all our sewers were connected
to that collector. So well is prior to

518
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:31,040
that prior to that we had unlimited dump site
which was the lake St-Louis. Where are

519
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,040
sanitary and storm water followed two and sometimes
in there in the light that we would

520
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:47,040
have connected to that to that the collector
Southwest collector. So I do and having

521
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,040
reached the conclusion that green infrastructure
is the solution have we considered as.

522
00:54:51,040 --> 00:55:01,000
>> One of the world. It's ok. It's the most
viable solution and the most immediate solution

523
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:07,000
in other words. It's the one, we can do right
away enough people. The citizens were worried
about

524
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,000
timelines and the aussi well the one the timeline
solution the one we can do right away is

525
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:19,000
green, WE can do it right now and that for
me. It makes a lot of sense. We've been doing
for

526
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,000
the past years as well. And that is separating
the sewer system. WE have the sanitary and
at the

527
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,000
local street level at every street certainly
that's been built since the or rebuilt has

528
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,000
got a separate sanitary and storm sewer. Unfortunately
I think even at the time during

529
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,000
the days they said it would take that to hundred
years to complete that system to

530
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,000
effectively separate the two sewer system only
sanitary sewage going into the collector

531
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:51,000
so that it could be treated properly in the
East end of Montreal, which it doesn't been

532
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:59,000
treated so well right now so and so I guess
I have two question for you and have you considered

533
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:05,060
so the first question have you even considered
the impact that? Connecting to the to the

534
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:11,060
southwest collector could have had the recognizing
that it's only a couple of hundred miles

535
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:19,060
away from the terracotta where you seem to
have this green infrastructure solutions already

536
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:25,060
plan now. >> It's the solution that can happen
right away. So as I

537
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:31,060
mentioned, we can wait and use the great option
which we take off a long time and if people

538
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:37,060
are working about their home where do you long
time doesn't sound like a logical solution
to

539
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:43,060
me so the one that you can do immediately which
you thing is perhaps for those who are

540
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:49,060
concerned that's the most immediate and the
most effective solution we can do right away

541
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:55,060
and I believe in doing the right thing as soon
as you can are trying to solve the problem
and

542
00:56:55,060 --> 00:57:00,020
not waiting for it so if you would like us
to wait and if you think the green solution
is in

543
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:07,020
the delusion, we can hold off it If you would
like what I don't think that's the way to go
so

544
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:13,020
you know you can we can focus on the other
more important take a lot more time. WE can
find a

545
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:19,020
solution that can we can do almost right away
and do that I mean. It's up to you guys. I

546
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:27,020
mean, it's not and I'm gonna I'm going to actually,
I'm gonna have you and that's all of my

547
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:35,020
grid, but what I will do is ask. Madame Verdon.
WE have any options in when.

548
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:41,020
>> We already have separate network for all
the city. WE are already have the separate

549
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:45,020
network for all the city in Pointe-Claire.
So we have you know the support the storm

550
00:57:45,020 --> 00:57:51,020
support and we have the center where. >> Connected
to each other which

551
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:56,020
effectively one system, which is why which
is in the like that are coming up through the
storm.

552
00:57:56,020 --> 00:58:02,080
Sur. >> Nothing Pointe-Claire. They are separate.

553
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:08,080
>> Really. Well. >> Here's here's the problem
with here's the problem with

554
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:16,080
this. This is that we're all experts, but we're
not in and that's the problem. Here is

555
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,080
everybody thinks there is here and knows it
you know and I don't have a clue but I don't

556
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:28,080
have a clue. I don't know that I'm trying and
find solutions that I think my work, but

557
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:34,080
nothing is just given an opinion of fact and
she's the digits of the city that contradict
other

558
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:44,080
people theory where do we go from there. I'm
not sure, but apparently there separate.

559
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,080
>> It, that's not a matter of opinion, that's
a matter of fact so.

560
00:58:48,080 --> 00:59:00,040
>> I. So I mean. >> It does the storm only
the lake Saint Louis is the. Yes the

561
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,040
storm sur système Discharge into lake Saint
Louis. >> I supposed to have to check

562
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:13,040
to have one hundred person check. >> Qui I
can't go further on the

563
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,040
top. Okay, one more question Yes, you are.
You have two apparently underway now you have

564
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:24,040
the green infrastructure study that in the
last meeting you said you were not at liberty
to

565
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:34,040
discuss and there is. Councillor woman has
mentioned I guess and social media, which is
not the

566
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,040
proper. Media exchange has mentioned that you
have an infrastructure Evaluation study

567
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:46,040
of some sort as well that I started in August
of the last year and has not yet concluded.

568
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:52,040
I'm here I go on the city tender register and
I don't see study having been having been

569
00:59:52,040 --> 01:00:02,000
commission for information for either green
infrastructure or. Sewage infrastructure generally

570
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:14,000
our. Way we are those studies not. Visible
in the tender registry or have i donna bad

571
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,000
search. >> Well. I'll answer at the one is
the storm waste management

572
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:24,000
study that started I think actually in January
our starting and will be finishing in January

573
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,000
and I just ask the question is actually the
other day because usually if it goes for a
call

574
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,000
for tender. You would see I think I actually
ask the question and if I didn't get

575
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:44,000
back to someone ask me that question but because
the study is being done by university and

576
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:50,000
it's less than two thousand dollars. So that's
why we're not seeing it on a call for tender

577
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:58,000
so I can answer that now and I as soon as we
get results and that's what we're basing a
lot

578
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,060
of the information moving forward on and well
and that's why. I think it's really

579
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:10,060
important everyone shows up to the information
station on September the temps will have

580
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:16,060
some people that are gonna be much more than
I am and that will allow you to ask more

581
01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:23,060
question so that's why the storm waste management
is not finished and then the other one is well

582
01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:32,060
cause there's no other studies actually there's
an ecological if I don't value of the forest

583
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:41,060
area and then the larger one is what I understand
is a general value for the whole of the City

584
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:46,060
of Pointe-Claire and that one is only going
to be on the end of September was told.

585
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:52,060
>> Il y a des écosystèmes écosystémiques.
So it's really show the écosystèmes that
we are

586
01:01:52,060 --> 01:02:00,020
in city. I'm not only you know for water but
also for biodiversity. So it's here that

587
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:06,020
one wasn't there. >> So this. >> Just so you
know what if you

588
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:16,020
have one more I'm just gonna add if it's all
one more but I will. Just do what I know and
this is

589
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:25,020
probably these are all in two thousand twenty
five Attention project that elgyn park. Two

590
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:32,020
thousand twenty-four a project was beginning
that will a natural attention in Waverly

591
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:38,020
Woods area of which should be finished two
thousand twenty six and another the bigger
is the

592
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:45,020
best of them is literally couple of blocks
from your house, which which.

593
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:50,020
>> So. >> There is something. WE are we are
currently in some stuff so

594
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:57,020
I'm just so what the city is responding, We're
not singing in our own our hands.

595
01:02:57,020 --> 01:03:05,080
>> I'm just. Des efforts into the bottleneck
in our existing system or possibly not because

596
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:12,080
of this is being at the university, I don't
know master's tesis twenty one

597
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:21,080
thousand this is more than a thousand dollars
is my point. >> Is not to play the name of

598
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:27,080
the I don't have my name it is yes, It's. >>
It's a partnership.

599
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,080
>> It's so. >> It's because the city of water
doesn't pay the full

600
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:38,080
amount of the city. WE have a partnership what
we call the end of the it's so we are you know

601
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,080
financially guaranteed to pay twenty five thousand
dollars, but the order par pay the rest

602
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:50,080
of the city Alright. >> Thank you, Thank you
Thank. >> The water and the system are

603
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:57,080
designed to be separate, but there is there
are instance of Kings cross contamination well

604
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:03,040
for instance well so that everybody will know
that for instance the sewage all the

605
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:09,040
manhole is going that there are there are over
with the sound system. They all have all in

606
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:14,040
them to ventilateur. The law the water the
switch to passe well. If there's flooding over
that

607
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:19,040
it's going to go in into the sound system.
That's so that's one way that you can get cross

608
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:27,040
contamination between the storm water systems
and the sound system and well. I'm just saying

609
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:32,040
if the if there's water, that's backing up
on the surface over the surge. The man cover
it will

610
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:38,040
get in there and another possibilities for
cross contamination is it there's a

611
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:44,040
private connection from some people dump system,
there's supposed to go into the storm

612
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,040
water system, but some people have in the past
to make been a while I don't know some people

613
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:57,040
have hooked them up into the into the sound
system. That's the possibility.

614
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,000
>> I had. >> Just. >> A little thing we have.

615
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:09,000
>> Mais oui, monsieur. >> WE have we have a
bylaw about getting on your sewer one-way

616
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:19,000
valve because there is two reasons to that
and it's a partial answer but people like I

617
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:30,000
used to do guilty I use to pump some pump in
the in the sewer. And a lot of people in the
older

618
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:39,000
and that's been fixed about ten years ago.
But. All there is that I don't have a backflush

619
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:48,000
valve. We'll have events with the sewer backup.
Also you need to have one one-way valve and

620
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:59,000
for the main collector. The whole idea is that
water. Storm drain they bring clean water to

621
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:12,060
the lake and we do have a lot of water in in
Quebec. But. If it's dumped in that big Interceptor.

622
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:26,060
It's wasted water also that's one of the. Equivalent.
>> Sanitary waste goes to

623
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:34,060
Interceptor. >> Yeah! I inquired about that
maybe ten years ago and it's not

624
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:46,060
gonna fly away, we can try but I'm I'm getting
the answer is that you gotta keep. Good water

625
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:57,060
going back to the lake and the dirty water
from the sewers going to Laprairie. Thank you.

626
01:06:57,060 --> 01:07:10,020
>> Baby. >> Good evening. My name Natural District,
Seven and I'm always

627
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:16,020
here and we'll have to admit really since the
previous administration when this was

628
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:26,020
going to build brivia and I told him. WE need
infrastructure fix the source and all the road
and

629
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:31,020
all that that is need to be take care of it
before you start building anything that is
about

630
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:38,020
maybe now six years whatever and that's all
what is going on now the keep building all
how many

631
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:45,020
how many high-rise building when. Searching
for about it. For thousands. You know where
is

632
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:52,020
all the waste water goes in the nineties. WE
are there and in the air tonight is free wouldn't

633
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:58,020
have anything in the night at the flood or
sur back or anything all that is started

634
01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:04,080
with all, I am and all the buildings and built
because it is the map where is all the

635
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:12,080
waste water it goes. It's really simple all
the system and the drain built in the fifties
and

636
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:20,080
the sixties wooden update all that so we don't
have to say Oh green green. WE have to fix
the

637
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:32,080
infrastructure in the road, the soul. All that
is you need to have to do it you can wait and

638
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:44,080
you see all green. Building. And the power
of it when it's electricity it came off. How
you

639
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:50,080
can pump it all the water tell me even if you
have extra when it take how many one or two
ways

640
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:56,080
to finish and afterwards the water is pumping
like like a flood. Our insurance we don't

641
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:04,040
have any clean and twenty twenty five persons
and tell us because you Pointe-Claire is flat
zone.

642
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:12,040
The oldest people. What they are here are building
and condos the same what he said is going to

643
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:20,040
built in Pointe-Claire Plaza when he went in
next election. Before he was promoting Cadillac

644
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:27,040
Fairview now is promoting. Pointe-Claire Plaza
it starts with Pointe-Claire Blade and

645
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:34,040
after. Everywhere. So what we have to do you
have to be serious really all this people

646
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:40,040
they came and also last year with the same
thing and I talked about it, but it's nothing

647
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:46,040
really serious than what is the serious really
we have to stop building anything and think
to

648
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:52,040
fix infrastructures to get out of the North
South East Eastern West. When we have very
all this

649
01:09:52,040 --> 01:10:00,000
all the road is all the day bumper à bumper
and then another maybe ten thousand people
were

650
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:08,000
twenty thousand people why I had people to
suffer with us why. Why I have no idea who
smart

651
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:20,000
people really the designed that. It's true
or not. CAN you help me, please especially
with

652
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:40,000
master. Eric Branco just here in the. Anjou.
Jaune twenty. >> If you can be.

653
01:10:40,000 --> 01:11:00,060
>> Okay because it's to be able to. Is running
again is running as a maire. In twenty five.
In

654
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:10,060
the fifty fifteen Then he said when he when
he run because he's asking you for. The resign
when

655
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:22,060
he went is going to build the most for. Pointe-Claire
glad to build on the. The parking lot.

656
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:32,060
Sorry to build on the parking lot that is starting
with this before. There when after the. In

657
01:11:32,060 --> 01:11:42,060
the election is twenty twenty twenty one and
in in the spring twenty two consultations in

658
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:48,060
Julie Séguin and more than hundred people
with the team there and they were all against

659
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:52,060
belting because it's right for both Cadillac
for all the downtown. What they built

660
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:58,060
because all that from the previous administration
is Mister Giant Belvedere. What is

661
01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:06,020
all that when he came was all in power did
all that. After that would you stop.

662
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:14,020
>> Blaming past administration. >> That is
the truth is a fact I'm not I'm not playing.

663
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:21,020
>> I do have an answer for your question If
you want to hear it. >> Let me finish first.

664
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:31,020
>> OK. >> Because you already again. After
that he went and he went

665
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:37,020
and. >> Saying that he is already done after
everything that he is

666
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:41,020
done at the council for the city. It's disrespectful
so point of order. Let's call this

667
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:51,020
thing to order. >> That's my call and I have
I have excuse my heard expression

668
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:57,020
coming from this side of the room that is not
always been pleasant to be either and I

669
01:12:57,020 --> 01:13:04,080
think as a citizen who deserve to be created
with. This I'm working right now. I don't think

670
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:10,080
I was terribly out of order. I think he was
being mister be which he does sometimes and
he

671
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:16,080
is colorful and he expresses himself, but he
is the citizens and I don't think he he he
cross

672
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:24,080
the line in my opinion, I would I would ask
him to maybe get to the point about quicker,
but

673
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:30,080
other than that I don't think is behavior is
worthy of any kind of or anything would must
be.

674
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:35,080
>> So when they are going to stop until face
really the reality. That's my question cinq

675
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:43,080
six here I keep asking that and the neighbors
the kids built-in built-in built-in when all
this

676
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:51,080
people and any. Now, it's making everybody
is really. >> Well your solution by

677
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:57,080
November six and. Maybe simple I mean. If you
want if you want building if you want to build

678
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:03,040
and you want accelerated building people who
want accelerated building you reflect

679
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,040
and if you want building this lowdown people
who you want building the slow down you like

680
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:14,040
it's pretty simple and the solution is there
for you and it's not are our choice it's

681
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:23,040
your. I think. >> Yes, sir, WE know what is
exactly the reality and what the

682
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:29,040
true what the solution, we have to go to be
serious about the solution to stop building
and

683
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,040
the. >> Solution so what is in your hands.

684
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,040
>> Not in my head. >> Well. >> Because I was
living with

685
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:43,040
living and here from the night night. I wouldn't
have all this. >> Okay, you speak english here

686
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:51,040
and I don't want to take too much about it
But. I think to agree, I think that that we
have

687
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:59,040
to start being very conscious of how we build
moving forward in an era of extreme climate
crisis

688
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:05,000
and we have to look not just in building but
in lifestyles and that's the point. I was here
we

689
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,000
have to really take what's going on around
us in the world. Seriously and we are citizens

690
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:15,000
and as people have to start the rising city
and where is that that work with mothernature
and

691
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:21,000
I certainly agree with the fact that the more
we build the less penjing. There is in the
water

692
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:28,000
has to go somewhere and it's pretty simple
but if you've got your heart covered and it's
not

693
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,000
imperméable the water has to go somewhere
and the less perméable. There is the more

694
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:39,000
flooding. You have for me. It's pretty simple
physique or whatever it is it's pretty

695
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,000
simple mathematics so that's the answer your
question, I agree with you and I think that
we

696
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,000
have to really moving forward. WE have to I
mean. I thought the line was quite funny and
people

697
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:53,000
to suffer with us and I thought that was interesting
when I mean. WE are suffering, but you

698
01:15:53,000 --> 01:16:00,060
know what do you of the world that are you
mean, we have even more climate crisis going
on

699
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:05,060
right now, they are part of the world and we
have to do it now what is it and territories
the

700
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:11,060
size of New Brunswick is burning in Canada.
As we speak we have to start realizing that
our

701
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:16,060
world and dealing with our world accordingly
and as we can do stuff and people and laugh
at

702
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:23,060
the green infrastructure avancée, but it's
one of the many solutions that we have to

703
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:27,060
connect immediately. WE have to start changing
our lifestyle and doing things differently
not

704
01:16:27,060 --> 01:16:35,060
just in building but how we build and what
we also in and what we also development to
do

705
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:39,060
and we have to really understand what the consequences
can be I've seen properly I see the

706
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:47,060
property property in the top of the street
and in Pointe-Claire. Where I saw a Big housing
house

707
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:52,060
project go down and I see it when I see the
river coming of that property and I know exactly

708
01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:57,060
where it's coming from and that can be mitigated
against I mean. You can you can rewrite that

709
01:16:57,060 --> 01:17:03,020
water. It's coming off because ecology has
been changed and the change in ecology. If
you cut a

710
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:09,020
wetlands you with mother nature and you have
consequences and we have to deal with all these

711
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:13,020
things going forward. I agree with your overall
sometimes I wouldn't single people out as

712
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:19,020
much and maybe we can but your sentiment are
good sir. If that's what answers to your your

713
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:24,020
questions and I will ensure that if you want
to slowdown building or have more controlled

714
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:28,020
responsible building you're gonna have a choice
and you can make that your self.

715
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:37,020
>> That's what we. >> Are so that's your Ok.
>> And also.

716
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:45,020
>> Must be one more question a lot of people
to get through. Okay. One more questions without

717
01:17:45,020 --> 01:17:51,020
without préambule because we've had a lot
of time now. >> Okay. D'Agenda fifteen points

718
01:17:51,020 --> 01:18:03,080
for. About Valois. Library that one is over
three days a week. With spending again does
the

719
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:15,080
third amount with spending on the 1-005-100-0770
after the flood. In August nine last year

720
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:23,080
I did the budget one million, I did it one
million five to fix the basement after the
flood and

721
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:33,080
after a few months ago. I did another budget
one hundred thousand to fix the best man.

722
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:41,080
Now is another so that's close to two million
dollars for library of three days a week now

723
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:49,080
everything in the website and even kids, they
don't go to the library, my wife to go There
is

724
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,080
all we have a very nice library here and it's
almost no barely somebody there will ask about

725
01:18:53,080 --> 01:19:03,040
the two million dollar is something. If we
have a lot of a lot of projects needs to be
done

726
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:11,040
for help a lot of people, not for three days
nobody got in and that's all about that, Mrs.

727
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:18,040
>> Well. Alright. >> The power library actually
holds very various community

728
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:24,040
organization that greatly serve our community
and it's not just our library, but it's also
a

729
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:28,040
hundred years history. I was a school, it's
a héritage sight. It's a integrated part of
our

730
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:32,040
community during the school year many people
will tell you about bringing there is there
for

731
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:37,040
story time and it also contribute to our non
profite organisation. So I just would

732
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,040
appreciate. If you go all the information before
criticized in the project. That's actually

733
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,040
quite integral into our community. >> We used
to go. There we used

734
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:51,040
to go there is really anybody there and for
two millions dollars that you turn down the

735
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:59,040
building and you build something better for
two millions dollars. >> I'll go through the
library

736
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,000
to share you the history and all the different
valuable works that happens out of that

737
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,000
building. I invite You are welcome it would
be lovely to meet you there.

738
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:14,000
>> We went there because we used to all of
our kids too close in the. Daycare closed there
and we

739
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:19,000
used to go there is there anybody there. So
I'm just take two million dollars and we have

740
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,000
a lot of projects to do better than just a
few people to go there.

741
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:29,000
>> Must be just from my perspective. I think
literacy is an important thing and I think

742
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,000
it is crucial part of the city life and. >>
We have a very nice.

743
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:39,000
>> One you will have a nice one year. Yes,
There. >> Is what you need to.

744
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,000
>> Work it and make it. It's the community,
It's also it's a héritage building as well
and I

745
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:49,000
from what I understand is the héritage elementary
school was run out of that building and I

746
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:55,000
don't think it's something that can be just
discarded that quickly sir and I just that's
my

747
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,060
short answer to that one. >> Thank you with
all here because there are our tax keep

748
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:05,060
up sixty and now the answer is where I don't
know for us. WE didn't have any clean twenty

749
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:11,060
five years and I'm sure this is what about
than that so I hope you care about that you're.

750
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:18,060
>> Beautiful and even more serious not which
is tragic and awful thanks and even more

751
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:21,060
serious. >> Thank you for taken. Seriously
everything.

752
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:34,060
>> OK. Thank you so next up is. >> For. Interrupting
you. Mr Dabi, and but you do you do this

753
01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:43,060
a lot of information When the building is approved
engineering goes through is it possible or

754
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:51,060
not in France go through the plant and the
project and the make sure that there is enough

755
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:59,060
water. There is enough sewer because there
is gonna be paying. If there is a mistake so

756
01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:11,020
and actually company. I will know for. Your
best friend. There can those buts company

757
01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:19,020
from which I think we could go back ten years
now they have to have a reserve for extra rain

758
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:29,020
water so it's not that it's not only densification
and it's not as bad as you say, thank you and

759
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:37,020
I am an expert because I was flooded for times
in ten years so you have I don't have

760
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:44,020
insurance anymore. >> So you see I care. Thank
you and I care about I leave and

761
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:48,020
Pointe-Claire. Pointe-Claire focused success
because they born and grow up and

762
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:56,020
Pointe-Claire. That's why I want next generation
and family they have a good really the same
as

763
01:22:56,020 --> 01:23:02,080
well, that's why I swear, I come here and that's
why, I was all of you. I hope really the

764
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:09,080
election the elite people care about the exists
citizens and president of Pointe-Claire.

765
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,080
Thank you. >> I just want to add one little
thing is that if you don't

766
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:21,080
densifie, you don't have money to fix the old
problem. Thank you.

767
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:27,080
>> That's why I said you want all the projects.
>> Is you can save a lot of your

768
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,080
problem by identifying your industrial commerciales
and your industrial park which is huge

769
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:37,080
amount of your taxes and is better than residential,
but that's that's my answer on that

770
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:47,080
one. Claudine Mercier and Mike nurse. I don't
know if it's one or the time or one. Ok.

771
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:52,080
>> Hello my name is Mrs Mercy. I just want
to start by thinking. WE don't know each other
but I

772
01:23:52,080 --> 01:24:00,040
really appreciate her really well prepared
or not I think she said what a lot of us and
there

773
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:05,040
are currently experiencing myself and my husband
have been on saint Louis, We're on the

774
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,040
court of March. There is an issue that is currently
there from march to I guess I would

775
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:15,040
say that I don't know what's going on the other
side. I don't see any water there but I could

776
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,040
tell you that in the past twenty years we've
only had issues on August night and July

777
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:25,040
thirteenth. WE have a big Flo valve that's
functioning or was functioning and we also
have a

778
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:29,040
french drain because we have a driveway that's
slop. If we have never had any issue whatsoever

779
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:37,040
with any kind of weather situation. Based on
which I've heard you say before with the

780
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,040
green the green infrastructure and all that
stuff. I mean we know that there is sensitive

781
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:47,040
zone you haven't mentioned what those things
are so we don't know. If we are currently

782
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,040
considered one of those zones. If I go in the
government websites. I can see that we're

783
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,040
considered in zone cuvette so it's been recognized
as having a water issue there but I would

784
01:24:56,040 --> 01:25:00,000
really like to know because you've mentioned
that there is inspection before during and

785
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,000
after I could tell you that I've witness myself
vegetation growing out of the halls. I

786
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:13,000
don't think that means that was cleaned out
or inspectors and whether it's a third party
of

787
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,000
the city. I'm unaware, but I took it to the
city, not to the third party so I expected
goals

788
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,000
to function I don't want to be sitting in my
house worried when there's a rainstorm sitting
at

789
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,000
midnight and looking at the ap as you mentioned
because the rain is at midnight now now it's

790
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:33,000
that two and I have to wait and not sleep all
night having my pump my backup pump my kids

791
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:41,000
dispatched when the storm does it so that I
can have a plan to once again deal with the
rain

792
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,000
coming in so in our case you came through the
back full of the caps literally blue off from

793
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:53,000
the pressure. So we do have that one way of
the night work. WE also had the french drain
that

794
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:58,000
overflow one that overflow and it came in from
everywhere and there's just no way to get the

795
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:03,060
water out right so you mentioned that and the
first thing. I would like to know is what are

796
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:08,060
those sensitive zones so it is saint Louis
considered a flood one of those sensitive zones
and

797
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:15,060
when you say that there being expected before
during and after how do we know that this is

798
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:19,060
actually happening because I've also even witness
after the rain cause we had the rain on the

799
01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:24,060
Thursday following the storm the following
few days after that rain came in the middle
of the

800
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:29,060
night around two am the very next day at eight
PM. Hi hi hi! I'm taking a walk down the

801
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:37,060
street and there is still waters sitting on
the side of the road. This should have been
drained.

802
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:41,060
It was a hot day. There was no reason for the
water to still be sitting there you get there
is

803
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:47,060
huge puddle all along Saint Louis on that stretch
the water just be there so to me this. I'm

804
01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:52,060
not an expert either so I'm not gonna pretend
like I am but I need an explanation. How is
this

805
01:26:52,060 --> 01:26:57,060
water? That's my first question. So are we
in that zone and how is this you're saying
that it's

806
01:26:57,060 --> 01:27:03,020
been inspectors. But why is this water sitting
there, Why is it rising and not draining only
in

807
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:05,020
that. >> Could I have to ask my director of
public works, but

808
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:11,020
I'll ask Madame Verdon and we do know anything
that can. >> Be able. You know for the

809
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:17,020
Exact. You know the exact maintenance that
it would do not that day so I don't know if
you

810
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:23,020
reach out to the administration. >> It's a
very nice email with all the pictures of our
lake and

811
01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:27,020
everything else that happened on the streets
on both occasions that's that's been send to
Mr

812
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:32,020
Cohen. >> To Monsieur Cohen administration
you copy of it so

813
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:37,020
I can retrace that email and come back to you
a little on. This week.

814
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:41,020
>> So this this will know if we're in the zone
as well. If we're considered one of those

815
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:46,020
zones that you guys are looking at fixing as
a pitie. >> I can look at the zone that

816
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:53,020
we are currently you know. Document. >> And
my second question is you

817
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:57,020
mentioned that there's a lot of resources that
are throwing and it is sort of help. I mean,
I

818
01:27:57,020 --> 01:28:01,080
have a few of their of my name is that you
are here now everybody was able to make it,

819
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:05,080
but you mentioned that there's the resources
that are throwing out and despite the some
pump

820
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,080
the back full of love and everything that we
have our sandbag I literally have sandbag

821
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:15,080
appeared in front of my garage now because
I can't take that chance. I want to know what
kind

822
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,080
of assistance is going to be provided because
you guys know that there's issue incertaine

823
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,080
areas and our insurance won't cover us anymore
because we have to climb back to back. I'm

824
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,080
getting an additional sump pump installed in
my house so that it has a battery backup back
but

825
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:33,080
all these expenses, they're not covered by
the insurance because they cover the damage
is not the

826
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,080
case of the damage, but the case is from the
infrastructure and all of I understand the
rain and

827
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:45,080
I understand that this is. Because because.
>> It's all natural incredibly

828
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:49,080
natural amount of that are overwhelming. Yes,
but I have been there for.

829
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,080
>> You and I've. >> Of the. >> Fact in those
words that has

830
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:59,080
been there is much different. To say that it
is in the last one years, we've never had any

831
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,040
issues and all of a sudden even on the side
of my house when i opened my back door to try
to

832
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:09,040
grab some sandbag in my yard, I had a river
following on the side of my house.

833
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:15,040
>> But what I'm told and from what I've told
by myself and the people that use cameras and
have

834
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:21,040
looked into the drain. There and functioning
order this. >> Was done on Saint-Louis.

835
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,040
>> Normally. I don't I can't hold it. There
are inspected by public works. I can and I'm
not

836
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:31,040
told by street, WE don't do it by street. I
don't do it by street. I'm told that they have

837
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:37,040
looked at our storm water system and they examine
it constantly and really what there was one

838
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:43,040
anomalie which we some people in the back row
experienced there was one anomalie that we
know

839
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:51,040
how in the last rainfall that we can identify
we didn't find any other. I'm not sure what
what

840
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:57,040
was examined and you're a good one and we have
to find out whether you was was stopped or

841
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:03,000
examined, but really what happened was that
the system was there. It was not damaged that

842
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,000
wasn't clouded with branch it wasn't blocked
it just go overwhelmed.

843
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:11,000
>> That so went with the stick and it started
moving things around the water started running

844
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,000
out of nowhere well and I'm saying vegetation
go in the mind well. I'm gonna be honest with

845
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,000
you. >> Okay. >> I'm getting things I've seen

846
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,000
the pictures, I have proof you're not I want
to understand. >> It was coming out of a man
of

847
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:29,000
water coming out of the whole thing is gonna
do much if water is coming up out of the whole

848
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:33,000
sticks. I don't want it too. >> Much just blocked
and the moment. WE went with our sticks,

849
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:37,000
then all of a sudden and start it. >> When
I saw the ground. So the

850
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:41,000
top of it was blocked was something but I don't
think that that was the case of the

851
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:47,000
flooding in the city was blocked the top of
manuel. If it's not going down the manholes
and

852
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,000
being absorbed by the drain, but there were
there you got a problem because the shoes are

853
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:57,000
overwhelmed. I'm not the scientist and you're
not in another of my logic is that if

854
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:03,060
it's just blocked at the surface of the whole
it would be solved easily it's much too much
more

855
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:09,060
excuse-me excuse-me. I'm still speaking so
if the water and if we're in the situation
where the

856
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:15,060
water is coming up over and out of the whole.
It's got nothing to do with sticks. It's got
a

857
01:31:15,060 --> 01:31:19,060
lot to do with the fact that there's too much
water and the system even know it's functional

858
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:23,060
is getting overwhelmed and we have to acknowledge
that we can't think that it's all the

859
01:31:23,060 --> 01:31:27,060
city is for it here we have to acknowledge
that there's an indoor amount of rain for the

860
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:31,060
infrastructure. WE have and it's happening
in every city, not just clear and everybody's
got

861
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:39,060
the same problem and that we're getting volume
of rain, we're getting century level of rain

862
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:45,060
like once and in the century we had to use
them two of two centennial events in in back
to

863
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:51,060
back years. There's something going on here
we have weather events happening and it is

864
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:55,060
different than it used to be and it can be
mathematical and scientifically quantified
and

865
01:31:55,060 --> 01:32:01,020
its way worse than it used to be and we have
a system that guide for a different time and
we have

866
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:07,020
to now change our infrastructure to adapt to
modern reality and that's going to take a while
but

867
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:11,020
we do have to do it. If the house is gonna
be safe and that's the reality of what's

868
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:17,020
going on here and again, I repeat what I said
to the german area to blame this on the city

869
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:21,020
is missing the crux of the issue. The crux
the issue is that we're getting inward

870
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:25,020
weather events and we don't have infrastructure
and the city can't just fix that overnight,

871
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:31,020
that's a huge problem and we have a huge problem
and we have to we have to do our best to

872
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:35,020
solve it all of us together and it starts with
being realistic about what we can do and what
we

873
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:43,020
should do and be blaming a city for a huge
climatic weather event is missing. I think
the

874
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:49,020
issues. Okay, okay. >> Really and that the
city knows there are specific issues

875
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:55,020
in search areas. I'm not in specific areas
and that's what I'm saying is that the left
side

876
01:32:55,020 --> 01:33:01,080
of my street was not flooded the other side
of Saint-Louis was flooded the back of my house
was

877
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:05,080
not flooded that particular basin was flooded
right there was no help people were stuck in

878
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,080
the middle of the streets last year. WE had
to put a poor girl I had to pool her with with
the

879
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:15,080
rope out of her window because he couldn't
open the door and she was so scared all of
these

880
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,080
events. It's a very small amount but nobody
there was no communication. There was no

881
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:23,080
information given as to what was going on now
we're we're been told that we don't even know
If

882
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,080
our section is considered an issue, but we
have two floods their back to about.

883
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:33,080
>> You want to hold it. WE just don't know
we can take. Okay, I mean, I mean with the
one that

884
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,080
might and. >> They can't be the that. >> They're
changing there is

885
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:39,080
changing and that's the other thing is that
I've never been flooded our flooding and there

886
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:43,080
aren't even specific zones anymore. There are
places that I've never we've here I've heard

887
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:49,080
stories from citizens come up here and say
I've never had some tonight this never happened

888
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:53,080
before all of a sudden. It's happening so the
zone are not the same ones it change and

889
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:59,080
people were dealing with something here that's
beyond the current capacity. WE have to

890
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,040
really start were asking everybody to give
us feedback. So we can start identifying.

891
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:07,040
What the hell is going on so we can try and
deal with it and understand it you don't

892
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:11,040
understand it and I don't understand it and
mother does most most of everybody is

893
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,040
dealing with it, Unfortunately, we get a room
full of experts and we get people who think
the

894
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:19,040
expert, but this is the situation that has
not been fully understood and remains

895
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,040
something to be studied before we come up with
conclusive ensure that we think we know we

896
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:29,040
have to understand what the heck is going on
here and to do that requires good communication,

897
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,040
you're right on that and that score and we've
got to start identifying and dealing with

898
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:37,040
problems and whether they're gonna be regular
and certaines areas I mean I used to think

899
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:43,040
they were full of five areas, they're now a
lot more there there are all hunks of how they

900
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:49,040
got really hammer and the last one you know
and you know you know I used to be more and

901
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,040
sandalwood and holston, and they were you know
and it's growing and it's moving around and
it's

902
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:59,040
disturbing so it's not simple, it's not a simple
solution and but we are all here and we want

903
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,000
to learn and trying to figure it out. That's
all. It's all we can do.

904
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,000
>> That we deserve to have more transparency
as to was actually happening. When the words
are

905
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,000
our considered flooded we should be. >> You'll
get transparency when

906
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:21,000
we know what the hell is going on. WE have
it we're still in the study process completely

907
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,000
different. >> Is that this is happening and
this is the two two times and

908
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,000
roll that you said a hundred years event twice
in the same here right the fact that it

909
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:35,000
happened twice and it was and when we called
for the city to come to try to block the

910
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:39,000
streets, they did they de pick up there and
there was no help there was nothing that happens

911
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:45,000
they just start there so that nobody would
drive through and we were left to find for

912
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,000
ourselves. Just basically desperately trying
to enter our house now.

913
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:53,000
>> Well with all due respect when the event
happened on the sunday. WE were terribly under

914
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:59,000
staff for what occurred so we now, we have
to oui. >> We used.

915
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:07,060
>> Oui used in. I can't speak for the public
security officer. He was at least there. Which
we

916
01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:13,060
had well I called people for idlewood and it
took me while the city and I were standing

917
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:19,060
there ready to try and get more help as well,
but we had a limited amount of people on

918
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:23,060
staff. It was the Sunday afternoon and every
single person. WE had employed Tony

919
01:36:23,060 --> 01:36:31,060
showed up bless his heart and we had volunteer
rescue show up and we had our limited staff
and

920
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:35,060
everywhere. They could but you know. >> This
event was not for more

921
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:39,060
than. >> It wasn't there was I think it was
millimeters predicted

922
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:47,060
we've got way more than what was predicted
from what I understand I'm right on that one
I have the

923
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:49,060
number I had the number. >> The storm. >> It
was impredictible that's

924
01:36:49,060 --> 01:36:53,060
the other thing, that's the other thing Meteorology
is not in exact science and this is not

925
01:36:53,060 --> 01:37:01,020
something you can just figure out you can predict
that number somewhere the weather forecast

926
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:07,020
that they were showers of the fifth millimeters
of rain that was the weather forecast for

927
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:13,020
that we go, we go to a hundred but I'm I've
got it right here these are my briefing, not
maybe

928
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:17,020
their lying these are the not to get there
are sitting in front of.

929
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:21,020
>> My and that's the reason, we had handbags
and that's the reason we were prepared getting

930
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:25,020
there. >> I'm sorry it just has to be right
here the weather forecast

931
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:30,020
that they were showers millimeters. Okay, That's
what I have right now. Okay. Look here

932
01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:36,020
we are in rivals engineering. Three rivers
meteorological theory. We're getting into the

933
01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:42,020
interesting areas of this but here which I
think requires some greater precision and some

934
01:37:42,020 --> 01:37:46,020
great. >> History when you need to see the
actual appreciate the

935
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:50,020
sympathy. WE really do I appreciate over there
Mr. Cousineau saying he was flooded

936
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:55,020
for time I sympathize because I understand
we had to worry about everything we had just
finished.

937
01:37:55,020 --> 01:38:00,080
So we understand how everybody can feel here,
but it's behind the sympathy. WE just need
to

938
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:04,080
start saying action. >> Ok well and it's cold,
it's cold, it's cold green

939
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:09,080
infrastructure and it's already happening and
it's been happening for over a decade and

940
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:16,080
your city has been busy and I deserve it and
it has done it's best and to continue to do
more

941
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,080
which is what we're doing. And I can leave
you do you want me to read you the green

942
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:26,080
infrastructure that we've done since I mean
I can give them to you since the seven open
air

943
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:32,080
retention basin arbitrage park which was performed
admirable during the rainstorm as

944
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:36,080
counselor tremblait qu'il était quasi filmed
it around two thousand eleven underground

945
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:40,080
pipes on mason two thousand fifteen underground
people on holiday two thousand seven in

946
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:45,080
peace and two underground retention basin we're
installed under the bike bath and I'm

947
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:50,080
boulevard near Saint John and Hastings and
two thousand eighteen two underground

948
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,080
retention basin, We're installed under the
bike path and he was boulevard near Hillary
and

949
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:57,080
winthrop two thousand eighteen underground
pipes were installed on quartier avenue and
then

950
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:03,040
Ovide Park. Two thousand twenty one again was
created in belmont park, two thousand twenty
two

951
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:10,040
public works parking lots was was designed
to included, two retention basin and two thousand

952
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:16,040
twenty-four. Retention basin was on the trail
and belmont park under the trail and two thousand

953
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:20,040
twenty five drainage feature was incorporated
and the design of winthrop avenue and two thousand

954
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:26,040
twenty five a bio retention bastion has been
designed for Elgin park and natural retention

955
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:30,040
basin projects began in two thousand twenty-four
and will continue and two thousand twenty

956
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:36,040
six in the Waverly Woods area of kingsmen and
we have several other other projects one of
them

957
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,040
designed right up for the belmont saddle wood
area in the works, that's not an idle city.

958
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,040
That's not the city, that's sitting responsibly,
that's not the city that deserve the

959
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:50,040
insights that you're looking at it. It's a
city, that's been doing nobody, we're not a
lack

960
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:55,040
of transparency or the lack of idle you want
to see action there's been action there's been

961
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,040
action for over a decade. Do you want to see
more actions. You probably we'll see more actions,

962
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:04,000
but we're doing our best with our resources
and to suggest that were somehow coupables
or

963
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,000
it is I think a little harsh. That's my, that's
my take on it. I've just give you. Statistics

964
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:16,000
that show as city that car and this is doing
what it can and we can continue to do more.
That's

965
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:28,000
all. That's all. I can say. Next is. Jennifer
Roy now sir Sir Sir, It's over it's over at
the

966
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:35,000
microphone. Jennifer was now you just designated
her to speak for you you you you are written
you

967
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:42,000
were you are with you are right and down together.
I have you down here as. You can go ahead,

968
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:48,000
sir. Go ahead, but I just feel bad for Jennifer
work cause you excuse me sir you initially
said

969
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:55,000
you do not want to speak and I gave you did
I just want to do it from. Ok, ok, Go ahead
sir!

970
01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:04,060
>> Yes here to saint Louis between just just
between them more and much and I'm gonna

971
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:12,060
respectfully disagree actually disagree with
you now and the hostile way, but I do blame
the

972
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:17,060
city for the action because this is the night
of we're talking about we're not talking about

973
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:24,060
this is a hundred area where we are retired
they're outside all the time. I have a camera
in

974
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:28,060
front. WE would just like that you just wanna
keep it simple with love to see the manuel

975
01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:34,060
opened and some investigation in there and
we have not seen the manuel open in a year
so no

976
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:38,060
investigation. There is vegetations in there
we can show your pictures, so there is a

977
01:41:38,060 --> 01:41:43,060
problem now and we understand about the green
projects and that's great but my insurance

978
01:41:43,060 --> 01:41:49,060
doesn't want to hear that. And you know what
you need is yours. WE just want some answers
and to

979
01:41:49,060 --> 01:41:54,060
find out when we'll get some answer at least
come and open the mind all and look that

980
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:59,060
that's it. That's all we are asking for you
just to get something done because I leave

981
01:41:59,060 --> 01:42:05,020
on saint Louis. Not the lake Shore. I should
not have a bit like in front of my house every

982
01:42:05,020 --> 01:42:09,020
time it rains. This is the find out there there's
just a problem, it's not it's nothing

983
01:42:09,020 --> 01:42:15,020
big. It's nothing great there's a problem with
the area with the mountains and it can be fixed

984
01:42:15,020 --> 01:42:20,020
cause it wasn't like that before. And it's
not an act of God. I called God, He does not

985
01:42:20,020 --> 01:42:26,020
him, It's not God, It's the manuel, It's all
we need to get it fixed and we'll be happy.
Not

986
01:42:26,020 --> 01:42:31,020
a problem because there was never like that
before and it is now so if we could just simply

987
01:42:31,020 --> 01:42:37,020
get some information about the manuel make
sure everything is fine and go back to normal.
Now

988
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:43,020
the water does sit on top and we have to go
when it's sitting and move it around to get
it to open

989
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:48,020
back up. So something is definitely wrong.
This is not normal is not normal, especially

990
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:53,020
when the other directions everything's fine
and make no sense. It's the best in there.

991
01:42:53,020 --> 01:42:58,020
We're just looking for the timeline when someone
can't come out and take a look and give us

992
01:42:58,020 --> 01:43:04,080
an answer. Why this is happening simply it.
Thank you. >> Enough Noted.

993
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:12,080
>> Just wanna ask do you have the subject address
address. >> Yes the corner of St-Louis

994
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:20,080
and much right. >> Okay of flooding in the
street.

995
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:26,080
>> Just as long as we have the right right
and thank you. >> Jennifer Roy. Sir there's
in

996
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:32,080
order there's a list of names and everybody
in order you are I know. But you have to have
your

997
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:39,080
name on the list everybody gets the turn to
speak in there on the list. Okay.

998
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:45,080
>> District five with Cynthia. >> Excuse-me
Excuse-me Gentlemen. Excuse-me ok.

999
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:53,080
>> So I just wanted to ask you just cause.
I'm listening to what and I want to make sure

1000
01:43:53,080 --> 01:44:01,040
that you're not saying that green infrastructure
is going to replace the maintenance and the

1001
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:07,040
stuff that needs to be done because it sounded
like when you were saying before like green

1002
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:12,040
infrastructure that is the answer. It's the
fastest thing that we can do it is the fastest

1003
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:19,040
thing. WE can do we can do a lot of that on
our own as well. I want to make sure that the
it's

1004
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:26,040
the maintenance of these structures that and
the foresight of making sure that

1005
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:33,040
the infrastructure is there before we're going
forward to build these big projects that is

1006
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:38,040
seems to be missing. >> It's not missing I
just give you a list of huge amount of

1007
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:44,040
work that has been down on the infrastructure.
I just read it out two months ago and that's

1008
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:50,040
not green. That's a lot of it's great so what
I've said and I are all by myself and I have

1009
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:56,040
said it quite clearly it's one possible mesure
and everybody is trying to go. You're saying
only

1010
01:44:56,040 --> 01:45:03,000
that I'm not only that I'm saying that's what
is the most immediate and affordable one and

1011
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:07,000
that's the one and people are worried because
people are getting it. Okay. The real

1012
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:13,000
simple solution to this people want to take
it into and after hours and I'm never I've
never

1013
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:19,000
once said it's in order. Ok, ok. So what? I've
continually what I've continually said and
will

1014
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:25,000
continue to see you now is that if people are
worried about their home right now the fastest

1015
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:33,000
way to take away their concern is to come up
with the immediate solution and that's what
I'm

1016
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:37,000
saying. >> Okay. I want to appreciate the course
that it's gonna be

1017
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:41,000
afraid to the citizens of Pointe-Claire to
help us understand how we can mitigate.

1018
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:48,000
I also want to make sure that the lack of previous
planning is not gonna be put back on the

1019
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:55,000
citizens as far as if. >> Lack of what type
of previous planning.

1020
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:01,060
>> Just what I mean. Essentially Environmental
assessment need to be done before anything
is built

1021
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:07,060
we're looking at water that we've never seen
before all of it is seen a lot of the area
has

1022
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:15,060
been developed OK. I'll give you an example
I leave next to our behind terracotta. Two
thousand

1023
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:23,060
eleven is when the soccer fields were built
two thousand twelve we had water in the basement,

1024
01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:28,060
two thousand thirteen the city came in the
ditch next to the house on the end which would
be

1025
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:37,060
one to the next to me and the water was in
the spring though it went down there. Now that

1026
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:46,060
green right it has not been so now my name
is equal so the water goes down and it goes

1027
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:53,060
right in your window so I mean again every
kind of thing that we put forward needs maintenance

1028
01:46:53,060 --> 01:47:01,020
needs to be looked after okay and I think I'm
not sure that that's the problem, but I'm I'm

1029
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:05,020
saying that. >> You know it's one of many things
that we can do.

1030
01:47:05,020 --> 01:47:12,020
>> Fast and it doesn't take know what I mean
we could spend time with the grass considering
it

1031
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:18,020
has it rain in three weeks and maybe a little
bit of diversion and some of those resources

1032
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:24,020
could go afterwards digging dish in areas where
you know people are getting water and absolutely

1033
01:47:24,020 --> 01:47:28,020
saying. >> That and I absolutely agree and
one and one of the things

1034
01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:33,020
that has been noted and clear is that a lot
of the that were designed and built in the

1035
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:39,020
structure of the city have been filled in and
they were green infrastructure that were

1036
01:47:39,020 --> 01:47:43,020
implemented probably in the fifties, you know
and it's said that a lot of that green

1037
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:46,020
infrastructure has been field in. >> The city
about it to.

1038
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:51,020
>> Be here and that's correct and over previous
time over time that has happened well we might

1039
01:47:51,020 --> 01:47:56,020
have to implement who knows I mean that that's
one potential green Infrastructure solutions.

1040
01:47:56,020 --> 01:48:13,080
That's all, that's a logical one and you are
quite right. Susan Weaver.

1041
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:19,080
>> It's gonna be a different subject. I'm sorry
for everybody. Anyways, Mr Thomas, I

1042
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:25,080
would like you to answer the questions concerning
the kilometers you put on the city

1043
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:33,080
vehicles that you said under was effectively
first on you the insurance claims which I have

1044
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:40,080
shows the car and for three thousand five hundred
and seven kilomètres on it at the time of

1045
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:46,080
the accident. I have your credit card statement
as well and they show you feel the City Ste-Foy

1046
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:52,080
hybride with at least five thousand dollars
world of gas which is around for the thousand

1047
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,080
kilomètres. So the two numbers support each
other during your ethics violations hearing
you

1048
01:48:56,080 --> 01:49:04,040
said that you thought you drove a hundred kilomètres
which over the two years would have come to

1049
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:10,040
about ten thousand kilomètres. So there is
missing thirty thousand kilomètres. You drove,

1050
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:16,040
but did not admit to the hearing. The prosecutors
brought that up when she asked if you

1051
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:21,040
thought forty three thousand kilomètres. What
about what you had driven under you said you

1052
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:26,040
would be surprised If it was as much as that
you also said under hope that you are the most

1053
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:32,040
honest mary in history and that you are a business
man with experience operating cars for

1054
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:38,040
both business and personal us and that you
are a bit of a mathematicien, but things don't

1055
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:45,040
add up can you please explain how you could
possibly not know that you must have driven
many

1056
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:52,040
times over the kilometers you admitted when
you had to fill up your thanks so many times
and as

1057
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:59,040
an experienced businessman. Are you are so
bad at manager expenses and your taxables cars.

1058
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:04,000
How can you expect the citizens of Pointe-Claire
to trust you to manage this city.

1059
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:12,000
>> Okay, That's very interesting. Supposedly
the cars had that amount of marriage and

1060
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:20,000
the car was that was the mileage apparently
after the accident note before and that could
be a

1061
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:25,000
fictitious number and that could not be. I
have never actually seen. WE have not produced
that.

1062
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:32,000
And that is never been a number that I saw
when I had the car and it was far more than
what I

1063
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:36,000
experienced in that cars and I find that number
suspicious. That's the number one answer

1064
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:45,000
number two my gas molds I initially was comparable
to I have made belvedere gas molds

1065
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:52,000
usage. And they were comparable but then mystery
called me last week to point out that when
you

1066
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:59,000
factors in the price of gas. Et Mr. Belvedere
is time frame with the car versus my usage.
He

1067
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:06,060
actually doubled my usage in actual gas receipts
he doubled it now the interesting thing

1068
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:13,060
about that is that Mr. Belvedere was during
covid so he had this events to go to so I'm
just I

1069
01:51:13,060 --> 01:51:18,060
would like excuse me. If someone would like
to speak the microphone, they can put

1070
01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:23,060
themselves on the list and can and can ask
a question so what? What I'd like to point
out, Miss

1071
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:30,060
Weaver is that there must have there must have
been personally because it was during covid
and

1072
01:51:30,060 --> 01:51:38,060
there were no events and there was it. Double
my guest consumption in the same time.

1073
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:44,060
>> Friends. >> Now I didn't. Miss Miss Weaver.
I did not have I had

1074
01:51:44,060 --> 01:51:52,060
almost none. Okay. >> Is un point 20 point
one un Agenda on the agenda I'd like

1075
01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:58,060
the details for a living one on the agenda
referring to the legal peace and so when you
came

1076
01:51:58,060 --> 01:52:04,020
to that on the agenda could you please go into
detail. Thank you.

1077
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:10,020
>> I can tell you what that is right now that
is between the city and the insurance who are

1078
01:52:10,020 --> 01:52:14,020
actually paying the insurance who is actually
paying the lego fees because there is our legal

1079
01:52:14,020 --> 01:52:22,020
fit are covered by insurance. It's no cost
to you and so the answer is now that's through
the

1080
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:28,020
league of our paid by insurance. It's not it's
not the taxpayers and so those legal fees.
This is

1081
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:34,020
and this is a discussion. This is an inquiry
from the answer to the city. Okay, It's got
nothing

1082
01:52:34,020 --> 01:52:42,020
to do with my it's got nothing to do with me.
Okay. Thank you, Miss Weaver that they can.
AT

1083
01:52:42,020 --> 01:53:04,080
the time is up. Okay, She's so many more to
go here well. Sorry guys my apologizes. Alright.
5.1

1084
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:12,080
Je pense. >> Five points one of a bylaw Amending
Bylaw PC Twenty-nine

1085
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:16,080
77 degrees in the exigibles tears for the financing
of property services and activities

1086
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,080
offered by the City of Pointe-Claire for fiscal
year twenty twenty five the proposed

1087
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:24,080
amendment are to broaden access to various
training facility with in the section regarding

1088
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:30,080
the yearly membership at the old Orchard Sports
Center as well as to introduce monetary

1089
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:38,080
orientation for youth aged fourteen to sixteen
who wish to use the weight training room.

1090
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:51,080
>> For one do I have a mover. >> Paul Bissonnette
District. >> District trois. Or.

1091
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:55,080
>> 6.1. Accorder un soutien financier pour
un montant total de 500 $ au Centre des femmes

1092
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:59,080
West Island, le Centre des femmes West Island
sollicite le soutien de la ville pour

1093
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:03,040
souligner ses 50 ans de service dévoués aux
femmes de notre communauté.

1094
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:09,040
>> Six Point. Authorized of Equipment to the
Pointe-Claire Village commercial Association

1095
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:13,040
for the Pointe-Claire Village Day of the event
will take place on August Sixteenth the

1096
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:17,040
equipment being length included stage water
station temps table and share.

1097
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:33,040
>> Pour 6.1 6.2 Do I have a mover. >> Une sonnette
de.

1098
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,040
>> 6.3 Considérer une demande de révision
de la décision rendue par le comité de démolition,

1099
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:42,040
laquelle refuse la requête en démolition
de l'immeuble situé au 191, chemin du bord
du lac

1100
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:47,040
Lake Shore. Une demande de révision de la
décision rendue le 19 juin 2025 par le comité
de

1101
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:52,040
démolition a été déposée. Cette décision
refuse la requête en démolition de l'immeuble.

1102
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,040
L'immeuble visé par la requête n'est pas
un immeuble patrimonial. La demande de

1103
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:01,000
révision a été reçue dans les délais prescrits
par le règlement relatif à la

1104
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:05,000
démolition des immeubles Pc20 neuf 87. Conformément
à l'article 8.2 du règlement, le

1105
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:10,000
Conseil doit se prononcer sur la demande de
révision reçue. Le Conseil peut confirmer
la

1106
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:19,000
décision du comité ou prendre toute décision
que le comité aurait dû prendre.

1107
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:33,000
>> For 6.3 Do I have a mover. >> OK, we are
now we. >> Have to.

1108
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:38,000
>> Move Paul Bissonnette, District. >> And
I'm sorry what what What

1109
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:45,000
are you actually moving, Monsieur Bissonnette.
>> And proposing the proposal

1110
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:49,000
proposing to overturn the decision of the Demolition
committee and improve the

1111
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:59,000
demolition of one night One Val-du-lac Lakeshore.
>> Under.

1112
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:04,060
>> Over turn the decision of the Demolition
Committee and the law, the demolition of the

1113
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:12,060
building located at one one. Au bord du lac
Lake Shore. >> And prior to voting would

1114
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:17,060
anybody like to speak to the issue. >> I will
do my best there I

1115
01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:23,060
might switch between the French and english
but I have the living point here that I think

1116
01:56:23,060 --> 01:56:33,060
are very important first of all the world on
three occasions. That's I think it's ninety
days.

1117
01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:47,060
Nos objections, nos objections on that feel
it is in line with the city. This council soft

1118
01:56:47,060 --> 01:56:59,060
densification. There there will not be any
three cut down. Let's say it politically that
the new

1119
01:56:59,060 --> 01:57:13,020
building would have. Energy If you are gonna
be green for over fifty years so that compensate

1120
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:27,020
for whatever is. Send to landfill or else.
It's its greeting family big family

1121
01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:41,020
actually for kids and that in the this council
opinion and very good thing for a long time.

1122
01:57:41,020 --> 01:57:53,020
This family has been stuck between. A change
of bylaw right in the middle. I don't want
to

1123
01:57:53,020 --> 01:58:05,080
massacre your name, Mr Derick. But. You did
due-diligence on three occasions and the third

1124
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:13,080
occasion was because of the. Bylaw changes
and that is not your problem. That is not your

1125
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:21,080
problem. Originally the pack committee I'll
call it that way because there is so many acronym

1126
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:31,080
at approved. You're the project you had deposited
and that changes with the law. So now. I

1127
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:41,080
can't say that the PAC committee is the proving
which you presented because legally. And

1128
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:51,080
that became your problem that was the an event
in bederven and I don't know how that happened,

1129
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:57,080
but this morning. I was having a coffee and
I was talking over at the studio Seventy seven
the

1130
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:07,040
music was it loud then this morning and. And
I just happened someone in the back of me.
I'm

1131
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:17,040
the guy and butterflies that are the problem
similar to your and it's all solved but with
the

1132
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:27,040
world going around is that you want and I didn't
win and corps and I lost badly and he told
me.

1133
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:37,040
I can't take that he told me that doing what
what he was asking where the rules of

1134
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:47,040
butterflies. Custom after you more to save
all the bones. There were some arguments

1135
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:59,040
bringing up that this would affect price of
property one case will affect. The price of

1136
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:07,000
property with the point clé over the island
over the Provence over the Canada. Now I don't

1137
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:21,000
believe that. There is in the bylaw provision
for. The responsible deconstruction and

1138
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:29,000
cevable materials are satisfied and that will
be our responsibility to check on your

1139
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:39,000
demolition contractors. If it's not the same
to make sure that all the available renewable

1140
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:51,000
materials is treated like the bylaw. Provide
right now, we're we're trying also another
issues

1141
02:00:51,000 --> 02:01:03,060
around around the island around quebec again
is that we're we are we need housing and I
know

1142
02:01:03,060 --> 02:01:13,060
that you where you leave right now and you
will if you finally get what you ask for well
it's

1143
02:01:13,060 --> 02:01:23,060
gonna be that place and it's gonna be made
available to someone so. And all of this

1144
02:01:23,060 --> 02:01:33,060
process. All it's been followed by the letter.
By the letter is the process is quickly and

1145
02:01:33,060 --> 02:01:43,060
mister you can can explain it Maybe better
than I do is that you apply for a demolition.
It's

1146
02:01:43,060 --> 02:01:53,060
looked at the committee render the decision
and then if you. Would you object to the

1147
02:01:53,060 --> 02:02:03,020
decision. I have trouble with that world, but
if you object to the decision then you are

1148
02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:13,020
allowed to go and there's the following of
that decision. There's a procedure that permits

1149
02:02:13,020 --> 02:02:23,020
you to go to council where the final decision
is taken, so there's not been in my head in

1150
02:02:23,020 --> 02:02:35,020
my mind, there's not been any any contouring
or whatever in the end. It's council that

1151
02:02:35,020 --> 02:02:47,020
decide and we will do that this evening. Thank
you. >> Anybody else like to speak.

1152
02:02:47,020 --> 02:02:55,020
>> Goodevening. With with this file. It is
with the information. We're not

1153
02:02:55,020 --> 02:03:03,080
specialist, we're not engineers, we're not
architecte and we received the five key question

1154
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:08,080
was asked received five documents. There's
two from the city that were from a contractor

1155
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:16,080
and évaluateur immobilier professionals that
submitted to report at the city and then we

1156
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:24,080
had report from the structural engineer that
was requested by the owner as well as they
à West

1157
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:32,080
Island Developer builder and also the architect
a West Island architect. Three more people

1158
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:38,080
that have specialization in certains fields
and my concern with the information is the

1159
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:46,080
following when you open the first report is
the rapport d'inspection diagnostics and

1160
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:56,080
page one under structures in limitation the
very first, it's not a sentence. It's exactly
six

1161
02:03:56,080 --> 02:04:04,040
words. Notre inspection est de nature visuelle.
So I mean that means it's a visual inspection

1162
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:10,040
in the report. It's identified that the inspection
took one our and thirty minutes to visit the

1163
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:16,040
house and come up with their reports. There
is also several areas where in the same report.

1164
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:22,040
They talk about limitations Foundations Inspection
limité illimité. Parce que les

1165
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:28,040
fondations ne sont pas visibles de l'intérieur,
isolé et finition Accès impossible dans

1166
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:38,040
le vide et le garage. So that is quite often
where there is limitations regarding that the

1167
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:44,040
other reports that we go from the consulting
is the Evaluation report at the appraisals
report.

1168
02:04:44,040 --> 02:05:02,000
It's called or and French now in that I just
want to get rid of that when. The page thirteen
and

1169
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:10,000
the reports and the talk about the floor. Joyce
now the floor of the master bedroom is not

1170
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:14,000
level as it is back into the right access to
the crawlspace beneath much of the room was

1171
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:22,000
difficult. It's possible that the structure
could have a problem. Is to blame. However

1172
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:28,000
the structure this is calling expert if necessary
not that there were no crack in the

1173
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:32,000
interior finish of the room that would indicate
the problem now if you're doing a visual

1174
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:38,000
inspection. You are looking at the wall, you
don't see anything so you are everything is
ok with

1175
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:44,000
the results at that of the structural engineering.
It that looked at the building here is

1176
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:52,000
his reports here. I won't read the whole thing,
but we not in the crack at the rear side and

1177
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:56,000
one crack at the front side of the building
indicating differential settlement issues

1178
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:00,060
with the foundation walls furthermore the floor
within the season of the house is settled

1179
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:08,060
slopes and about one half for each do the rotten
woodfloor Joyce below the master bedroom.

1180
02:06:08,060 --> 02:06:12,060
There was a crawlspace located below the master
bedroom, which is not ventilator not insulated

1181
02:06:12,060 --> 02:06:18,060
and not heated the ground within the crawlspace
is exposed and to know your was detected on
the

1182
02:06:18,060 --> 02:06:24,060
floor of the crawlspace there for moisture
evaporate into the inadequate. Les ventilateurs

1183
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:28,060
crawlspace resulting to high moisture level
within the crawlspace and which is

1184
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:33,060
contributed to the power of routing of the
floor and possible mold growth problems

1185
02:06:33,060 --> 02:06:38,060
with in the crawlspace in conclusion the structural
integrity of this section of the

1186
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:44,060
building in peril and must be demolished in
reconstructed now on the visual inspection
that

1187
02:06:44,060 --> 02:06:50,060
they don't see any of that they have to go
and see they didn't do it find what it's still
the

1188
02:06:50,060 --> 02:07:00,020
fact to take the credibility away from what
we're getting you got the page three on the

1189
02:07:00,020 --> 02:07:12,020
oprazole. This is page three of the appraisal
and what they say this is the sound of the
Intro

1190
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:18,020
letter. If you want. It should be noted that
at the time of writing this report nobody from

1191
02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:24,020
specialized contractors were available this
the estimated amount for the building

1192
02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:30,020
renovation must be interpreted with reservation
with an us confirmed by the expertise of

1193
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:38,020
the specialized contractor so that again as
far as I'm concerned, Maybe I'm wrong but

1194
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:46,020
that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in
the numbers that are being produced by one
of

1195
02:07:46,020 --> 02:08:02,080
them is a certified operator and the other
one shattered operator. Just like to. The

1196
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:08,080
question you have to be able to realize to.
À certain instant on someone and not expected
to

1197
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:12,080
everybody is a crook and everybody is just
getting the check and produce garbage you

1198
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:20,080
know there's years in the in the conclusion.
WE estimated the potential renovation costs
that

1199
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:26,080
sixty for but I'll get back to that subject
of validation by specialized contractors. So

1200
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:46,080
there again. WE need the specialized contractors.

1201
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:58,080
And estimated renovation we've estimated the
potential renovation cost of the building

1202
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:01,040
based on our visit and with references to the
builder diagnostic inspection report.

1203
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:07,040
That's the Visual report prepared by Louise
Couture and architectes not however that the

1204
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:12,040
estimated amount of this work is approximate
and will have to be validated with specialized

1205
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:18,040
contractors. In addition certains hypothetical
deficiency observed should be the subject

1206
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:22,040
of more specific expert appraisal and are not
included in the cost possible presence of

1207
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:34,040
mold structural problems with the master floor.
So. The. The. This is the table here with the

1208
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:40,040
approximate renovations cost of the building
the building was built in sixty sixty five
years

1209
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:52,040
old and here in the renovation cost the estimated
renovation costs to be validated again in

1210
02:09:52,040 --> 02:10:04,000
brackets for the thousand 7 $ of expenses,
There's a contingency fifteen seven thousand
three

1211
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:10,000
thirteen and taxes of the thousand for a total
of se. Rounded of sixty for thousand

1212
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:20,000
so. Having gotten that we didn't have one of
the other reports that that were submitted
and

1213
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:28,000
this is by the builders in the West Island.
This is a description is intended to

1214
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:56,000
illustrate the. Just want to get it with the
record. The when I'm looking for the.

1215
02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:02,060
It's the body analysis for renovation description
of the projects, it's the renovation

1216
02:11:02,060 --> 02:11:08,060
with the existing single family residences
to bring it up to current standards remedy
any

1217
02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:12,060
issues requiring critical repairs to preserve
the building protect the safety of occupants

1218
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:18,060
provides the statique package equivalent to
home in the areas. Full architectural engineering

1219
02:11:18,060 --> 02:11:24,060
engineering interior design details and specifications
will be required to produce it for

1220
02:11:24,060 --> 02:11:32,060
the project now there's a there's a breakdown
here of twenty one items Demolition

1221
02:11:32,060 --> 02:11:36,060
Foundations Framing Roof Membranes Windows
Exterior Plumbing Mechanical fireplace

1222
02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:46,060
are staircase interior door the old twenty
one that total five hundred and for one thousand.

1223
02:11:46,060 --> 02:11:54,060
That are supposed to do for the thousand that
came back from the evaluators so I mean. I
can

1224
02:11:54,060 --> 02:12:00,020
understand the discrepancy, but not that's
like more than ten times the difference between
the

1225
02:12:00,020 --> 02:12:12,020
two so I talk about confidence and your reports.
And in addition to that. WE also have

1226
02:12:12,020 --> 02:12:22,020
the. The report hear from the West Island architect
and I'm not gonna read all of it. It's

1227
02:12:22,020 --> 02:12:26,020
not that much but basically foundations pretty
important foundation has significant

1228
02:12:26,020 --> 02:12:32,020
cracking and settling beside the garage area
causing a large depression in the wood floor

1229
02:12:32,020 --> 02:12:38,020
structure of concrete column tears are crumbling
and must be replaced efflorescence is noted

1230
02:12:38,020 --> 02:12:44,020
on Exposed foundation surface Indicating water
filtration infiltration fuel parameters

1231
02:12:44,020 --> 02:12:48,020
excavations and new French drain delta membrane
should be installed causing significant

1232
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:53,020
damage to the veranda driveway and the house
be renovated the foundation requires significant

1233
02:12:53,020 --> 02:12:57,020
work structural while the difficult to break
with photos. It's obvious outside that the

1234
02:12:57,020 --> 02:13:02,080
structure is falling and numerous places flowers
and roof lines sloping inside the

1235
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:07,080
structural column are rotten at the base do
to the proximity of the ground structural or

1236
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:12,080
components such as roof rafter the underside
and these are almost impossible to correct

1237
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:18,080
without a significant structural investment
so it goes on he talks about the rough electrical

1238
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:24,080
mechanical plumbing the talks about the interior
finish the insulation the fireplace the

1239
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:32,080
exterior finish the roof the theory of everything
again another professionals has been

1240
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:36,080
working in the West Island for a considerable
number of years and regardless of the thing
as these

1241
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:40,080
are people that belongs to a profession and
there's supposed to have credibility so you
you

1242
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:44,080
can't just push through this inside. C'est
how I know, I know it's not important in the
other

1243
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:54,080
thing the last thing. WE have is this also
showing the sustainability that was prepared

1244
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:58,080
regard the recovery recycling building materials
and components all after will be

1245
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:04,040
made to salvage any item the value and there's
other items plumbing fixtures cabinets and

1246
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:08,040
wiring Windows will be made available to architectural
salvage company what regarde

1247
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:13,040
energy efficiency and sustainability the new
project clearly superior to the existing

1248
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:18,040
building thermal insulation value of the floor
Wall Roof Assembly will be for the

1249
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:23,040
exceeding home and meet all the current standards
for isolation ventilation is also dramatically

1250
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:30,040
improved with both superior mechanical systems
and fresh air exchanger with no roof with roof

1251
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:36,040
soft detailing. The proposed also to be built
with the highest quality materials

1252
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:42,040
incorporating the latest construction detailing
to ensure longevity so when you look at

1253
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:50,040
all that and the house was approved by the
PC, which is composed of clear resistance,

1254
02:14:50,040 --> 02:15:06,000
including correct. Architect. On the PC. Anyway.
So. So you can't do it was more than that it
was

1255
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:13,000
anyway. There was there. >> Backgrounds and.
>> There are there are some that

1256
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:17,000
I thought that was for I used to be there and
I'm not that this year so I'm not know what
I want

1257
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:25,000
what we had this architect on that professional
architect not designer or stuff and so anyway.

1258
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:31,000
So you look at all this information and you
say well you know for the thousand dollars

1259
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:35,000
and then you look at all the rest of this stuff
so there for there's no way that I'm prepared

1260
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:45,000
to. Prepare to do that's why I proposed to
do not approve of the reverse. If you want
it the

1261
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:55,000
demolition the committee. Decisions and I agree
with the demolition. Thank you.

1262
02:15:55,000 --> 02:16:04,060
>> Anybody else like to speak Yes, you can.
>> And I'm afraid. I'm going to

1263
02:16:04,060 --> 02:16:13,060
you a little bit longer. I'm on the demolition
committee and I voted at the time to do. Refused

1264
02:16:13,060 --> 02:16:20,060
the demolition. I know it's a very sensitive
issue and I know that the feeling and lives
of

1265
02:16:20,060 --> 02:16:26,060
the Americans. Are you know held up waiting
for this process to work. It's true and I sympathise

1266
02:16:26,060 --> 02:16:36,060
with them. And I sympathise with you all cause
I'm going to read my reason. Analysis for what
to

1267
02:16:36,060 --> 02:16:42,060
support the decision that the Demolition committee
made in advance for its links and I also

1268
02:16:42,060 --> 02:16:51,060
apologize that it seems a little clinical.
I want but that's the nature of reason arguments
so I

1269
02:16:51,060 --> 02:17:00,020
apologize if it seems like sympathy and I do
sympathise the appeal of the decision to refuse

1270
02:17:00,020 --> 02:17:05,020
autorisation for the demolition Lake Shore
is a critical test of council's resolve to
confirm its

1271
02:17:05,020 --> 02:17:10,020
commitment to the demolition bylaw it anonymously
past and January of this year the

1272
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:16,020
language that replaced the old below was specifically
crafted to set a much here bar for

1273
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:22,020
demolition to be approved. This is made in
the préambule with state that prior to the
ultimate

1274
02:17:22,020 --> 02:17:28,020
record to demolition the committee will give
priority priority to the renovations to

1275
02:17:28,020 --> 02:17:32,020
the restoration or to the review of the existing
buildings from the sustainability and carbon

1276
02:17:32,020 --> 02:17:38,020
footprint reduction perspective. When the building
is reasonably possible particularly in terms

1277
02:17:38,020 --> 02:17:46,020
of the investment required so she is reasonable
reasonable when reduced to the essential

1278
02:17:46,020 --> 02:17:52,020
point the basis of this is simple, It is the
argument that the committee here when it

1279
02:17:52,020 --> 02:18:00,080
refused to the demolition permit by giving
disproportion weight to the restoration cost
of

1280
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:04,080
thousand dollars contained in the Evaluation
report Dated three October twenty twenty four

1281
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:10,080
and prepared by the accredited professionals
Real-estate evaluators Paris Ladouceur the

1282
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:16,080
report States that the building is of standard
to good quality and that it's physical

1283
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:21,080
conditions is above average for its age the
inspection found no serious deficiency that
could

1284
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:27,080
impact the property overall integrity. However,
it does not that some repair and maintenance

1285
02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:36,080
work as well as improvement must be carried
out to preserve the buildings conditions. It
should

1286
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:42,080
be noted that when the applicants chose to
take the this case the core after the

1287
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:46,080
last round through the demolition committee
and the appeal following the council

1288
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:52,080
both to uphold the demolition committee decision.
This file was all communication were

1289
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:58,080
conducted then exclusively through direct communications
between the Apple and the City

1290
02:18:58,080 --> 02:19:02,040
were significantly reduced to allow the legal
process to run its course. It is apparent that

1291
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:07,040
there have been graves and regrettables misunderstandings
regarding both the initial

1292
02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:12,040
demolition requests and the process, which
I'm sure a lot of it had to do with that lawyers

1293
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:22,040
is getting in the middle. It is clear that
the Evaluation report is widely misunderstood

1294
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:28,040
according to the accredited professional real-estate
evaluators Paris Ladouceur et

1295
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:30,040
associés. The estimated renovation costs as
I said before it before thousand

1296
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:36,040
dollars. This is not considered modernisons
upgrading or enlarging the building through

1297
02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:42,040
renovations the restoration costs included
in the previous report cover work required
to

1298
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:47,040
fix only the identified deficiency so that
the building will be in good condition

1299
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:54,040
consider basic maintenance works such as the
replacement of some older Windows railings
doors and

1300
02:19:54,040 --> 02:20:00,000
minor kitchen renovations the structures at
one night in one Lake Shore was built in sixty

1301
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,000
and when I knew it had an expected economic
life of five years ahead of it at the time
of

1302
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:12,000
the Evaluation. It was for years old in elapsed
time but because of continued car it's apparent

1303
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:18,000
age was just thirty-five and it still had three
years of economic life ahead of it

1304
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:24,000
according to the report the sixties for thousand
dollars renovation costs only address

1305
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:30,000
restoring economic life and does not included
in any update or improvement it establish the

1306
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:36,000
cost of resulting ground zero for any additional
work including update improvement and

1307
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:42,000
enlargement the appelant that the engineers
report that they commission recommend the

1308
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:46,000
building should be demolished a close reading
of the report reveals that it's not exactly

1309
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:52,000
what was recommended the report conclude that
the structural integrity at one section of
the

1310
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:56,000
building is imperial and must be demolished
and reconstructed. This is a partial demolition

1311
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:02,060
only and very well be accomplished without
recourse to the demolition request process

1312
02:21:02,060 --> 02:21:08,060
the state that it appears the committee has
improperly used the appelant feel to advance
its

1313
02:21:08,060 --> 02:21:14,060
own political or policy preference regarding
demolition practices in the city rather

1314
02:21:14,060 --> 02:21:18,060
than applying the governing below in the objectives
inconsistant manner for

1315
02:21:18,060 --> 02:21:22,060
substantiation this charge. Realize entirely
on the aplomb mistaken rejection of the

1316
02:21:22,060 --> 02:21:26,060
accredited professionals evaluator findings
and the assumptions that the committee

1317
02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:32,060
decision-making process was not further supported
by the city own professionals staff the

1318
02:21:32,060 --> 02:21:38,060
committee would most certainly be in violation
of the principle of administrative neutrality
and

1319
02:21:38,060 --> 02:21:46,060
good faith decision-making as the employees.
It was if it were to summary ignore or overwrite

1320
02:21:46,060 --> 02:21:52,060
those findings as they would have us do the
aplomb was publicly question has publicly

1321
02:21:52,060 --> 02:21:56,060
question the very competencies of the committee
members to make the decision regarding

1322
02:21:56,060 --> 02:22:02,020
demolition such decisions should be made by
professional engineers. However, the law

1323
02:22:02,020 --> 02:22:08,020
itself will not allow this it requires demolition
decisions by made in public by committee of

1324
02:22:08,020 --> 02:22:14,020
Elected Council review the report of professional
Engineers and evaluators and where needed

1325
02:22:14,020 --> 02:22:20,020
we received further interpretation and explanation
from the City professional staff.

1326
02:22:20,020 --> 02:22:26,020
Some decisions will be determined by the considered
subjected criteria that is true

1327
02:22:26,020 --> 02:22:33,020
the entry of subjective elements in such decision
is precisely. Why the law requires all

1328
02:22:33,020 --> 02:22:40,020
demolition decisions by made in the public
meeting by elected officials and that does
this

1329
02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:46,020
must be substantial in the case of one night
one lake Shore. There was actually very little

1330
02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:52,020
room for subjectivity the demolition by law.
Established significant waiting and favour

1331
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:58,020
of renovation restoration or reduce over demolition
the evaluator report finds that with

1332
02:22:58,020 --> 02:23:05,080
the reasonable investment of sixty for thousand
dollars. Significant extensions to the

1333
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:10,080
economic life of the building can be established
this satisfy the names of the demolition

1334
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:16,080
below council. Unanime usually past just over
six months ago The basis of this appeal is
the

1335
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:22,080
assertion that the accredited professionals
evaluated does not understand this. Profession
or

1336
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:27,080
the committee member benefit from the analysis
provided them by our own professional staff

1337
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:32,080
still do not understand the objectives basis
of their decisions further review

1338
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:36,080
following the appeal complemented with the
additional analysis provided by the

1339
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:42,080
planning staff makes it very clear to make
the demolition committee made the correct

1340
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:46,080
decisions. If the establishment methodology
is ignored and the decision substantial be
very

1341
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:52,080
clear economic factor is over turned than so
two is the methodology established by the

1342
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:58,080
new by law and review by the water. This november
there will be consequences to a sustainable

1343
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:04,040
environment and the future accessibility of
our housing stocks the middle class family.

1344
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:13,040
Thank you. >> Just make sure there anybody
else like to speak just before I

1345
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:19,040
let the Council Council Tremblay. You want
to see anything at some point.

1346
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:27,040
>> Outside of just started with the common
made by counselor account. Thank you.

1347
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:37,040
>> Just specify in the here. It's stated, it's
the valuation report estimate of the potential

1348
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:43,040
renovation costs we made in estimate of the
potential renovation costs of this

1349
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:51,040
building and that's what they get down estimated
renovation costs for thousands. Thank you.

1350
02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:59,040
>> So have we came to the votes. I guess we've
come to vote. Before we do so. I'm trying to

1351
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:05,000
calculate the map here in the event of I could
possibly vote and make a toy I think that

1352
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:11,000
maybe the possibility also I can't predict
how everybody's gonna vote. So I could just

1353
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:21,000
austin and let it go. However, you know those
who would like to preserve the. The decision
of

1354
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:27,000
the demolition committee with probably like
me to do so if we're one vote down now the

1355
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:33,000
political side of me would say just let it
go and let the council decide the outcome,
but

1356
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:39,000
I I'm gonna speak to this and tell you my decision
and how I feel on this issue anyhow. I had

1357
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:45,000
a great not a great but it's very informative
that I don't think there any issues. We've

1358
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:49,000
kicked around as much as this particular issue
and it was a very interesting discussion and

1359
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:57,000
I thought the counselor on all sides were explain
and fair and informed on this debate and we

1360
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:03,060
had one of our better debates at the council
on this issue and I think going forward, we're
going

1361
02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:11,060
to be this decision will be this kind of which
will be with on a on a better on a more qualified

1362
02:26:11,060 --> 02:26:17,060
following where will. Will. Will have better
ground work to work with power of what's happening

1363
02:26:17,060 --> 02:26:21,060
Here is this family who is coming with the
change in the law and demolition and it was

1364
02:26:21,060 --> 02:26:27,060
going one-way before the change you want another
way after and that made it problematic for

1365
02:26:27,060 --> 02:26:39,060
them, which I think this is unfortunate, but
part of the reality. I. AM not to vote for

1366
02:26:39,060 --> 02:26:45,060
this. I have to strongly vote for it because
and I be going against the majority of the

1367
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:49,060
council. I mean it. I think it's going to vote
protect the vote going in one direction and
I

1368
02:26:49,060 --> 02:26:57,060
don't want to do it would have to be very serious
for me to overturn the majority of the

1369
02:26:57,060 --> 02:27:01,020
counselor and I think a lot of them are really
presented themselves very well factual so

1370
02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:09,020
you know I'm in a spot here, but I will say
that I'm there was discrepancy in numbers here
and

1371
02:27:09,020 --> 02:27:15,020
the science. I'm not an expert but from my
take on what's going on and all this debates.
I'm not

1372
02:27:15,020 --> 02:27:23,020
convinced one way or the other on the numbers
on whether it's beyond life for it needs to
be

1373
02:27:23,020 --> 02:27:29,020
knocked down and it's not ready or it's not
feasible renovate or save. I do agree with
the

1374
02:27:29,020 --> 02:27:37,020
principle of the new law that we should not
have perfectly sound who was getting good house
is

1375
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:41,020
getting knock down and going to landfill, which
has I think the promise of the law and I think

1376
02:27:41,020 --> 02:27:45,020
it's a good time and I agree with it. I'm not
sure, that's the case here some people are

1377
02:27:45,020 --> 02:27:51,020
you? It is. I'm not sure and I'm not an expert,
but I'm not sure. That's the case here. I'm

1378
02:27:51,020 --> 02:27:55,020
learning and I don't have enough solide information.
I must have come back with a lot of

1379
02:27:55,020 --> 02:28:03,080
information and work very hard to provide information
to contradict our experts and I'm

1380
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:09,080
not sure who is right are wrong. I'm not I'm
maybe not good enough, I'm not enough to go
one

1381
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:15,080
way and the other on it but what I will say
is that the family had a lot of has been been
to be

1382
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:23,080
change this way to the end of a long time.
If I vote and make it a try it's gonna drive
the

1383
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:29,080
process out even further and it's gonna go
through another elections and this family which

1384
02:28:29,080 --> 02:28:37,080
is waiting for a long time we'll have to wait
and even longer time and you know the case
is

1385
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:45,080
being made at their expense and that par Disturbed
me because I've been through a and with me

1386
02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:53,080
resolve this issue on the next one would be
my conclusion on this if we have to take our
by

1387
02:28:53,080 --> 02:28:59,080
law and this issue because I mean there are
cracks and that is still, I think we don't
we

1388
02:28:59,080 --> 02:29:05,040
don't deal with héritage adequately in our
demolition below and there is a propensity

1389
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:11,040
and clear history to knock down things to quickly.
So whether this is the house to leave and

1390
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:17,040
then I'm not sure. It is I mean there are two
years and now that went through that were

1391
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:25,040
potentially. Everything is this one is the
tricky one Okay so in my opinion. I will just
it's not

1392
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:31,040
strong enough for me to make this family wait
another year. If you are at their own expenses

1393
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:37,040
on their time and we can try and tighten that
blow up in the next administration. So that
we don't

1394
02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:41,040
go through what we're just going through I
think it is to the demolition committee. They

1395
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:47,040
worked genuinely and superb with the information
that they were given and provided and I don't

1396
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:53,040
want to undermines the after. After I think
that there were willingly doing something wrong

1397
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:59,040
they were living up to the battle of that was
presented to them and many ways so I just for

1398
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:05,000
two for the reasons I've just elaborated and
I don't think this is the project to leave
it

1399
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:09,000
down and I don't I think the family been through
enough and I think I will postpone it to the

1400
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:16,000
next one that would be my opinion and it's
so all those in favour of the Demolition

1401
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:30,000
committee decisions. All all of those of over
turning those those opposed. Keys and I will

1402
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:40,000
obtained from voting. Thank you. La prochaine
madame Thibault. >> Pour clarté, pour fins
de

1403
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:45,000
clarté pour tous les gens dans la dans la
salle et ceux qui nous écoutent. La décision
du

1404
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:51,000
comité de démolition et la décision du comité
de démolition est renversée et la démolition

1405
02:30:51,000 --> 02:31:00,060
est autorisée. 11.1 Autoriser une demande
de. >> 10.1. Feel the list of budget

1406
02:31:00,060 --> 02:31:05,060
amendement and the registry of check for the
period of doing twenty-six twenty twenty five
to

1407
02:31:05,060 --> 02:31:11,060
july until it twenty twenty five. >> 11.1.
Autoriser une demande

1408
02:31:11,060 --> 02:31:15,060
de conciliation et d'arbitrage éventuelle
auprès du bureau du syndic du Barreau du Québec

1409
02:31:15,060 --> 02:31:20,060
concernant des honoraires d'avocat dans le
dossier CMQ sept un cinq six cinq Tiret zéro

1410
02:31:20,060 --> 02:31:26,060
zéro un pour la facture, la facturation numéro
deux zéro cinq trois zéro huit huit un. La

1411
02:31:26,060 --> 02:31:31,060
loi oblige la municipalité à assumer la défense
ou la représentation d'un membre du

1412
02:31:31,060 --> 02:31:36,060
Conseil lorsque ce dernier fait l'objet d'un
recours judiciaire. Dans le dossier CMQ sept
un cinq

1413
02:31:36,060 --> 02:31:42,060
six cinq Tiret zéro zéro un impliquant le
maire Tim Thomas. La ville assume donc les

1414
02:31:42,060 --> 02:31:48,060
honoraires d'avocat de Monsieur Thomas et l'assureur
de la ville rembourse les frais raisonnables

1415
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:54,060
jusqu'à un maximum de 100 zéro cents avec
une franchise de 25 000 $ payable par la ville.

1416
02:31:54,060 --> 02:32:00,020
Or, une facture reçue soulève des questionnements
quant à la raisonnabilité des montants

1417
02:32:00,020 --> 02:32:04,020
facturés et la Ville entend demander l'intervention
du bureau du syndic du Barreau afin

1418
02:32:04,020 --> 02:32:20,020
de faire réviser les montants. >> Pour 11.1.
Do I have a over. >> Cousineau District un.

1419
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:30,020
>> Absolutely the. Early and perhaps to clarify
what the city explained the law requires when

1420
02:32:30,020 --> 02:32:39,020
the legal action against the maire, the law
requires that the city needs to cover those
costs

1421
02:32:39,020 --> 02:32:46,020
in the American pie themselves and be reimbursed
or the city is covered directly we're also

1422
02:32:46,020 --> 02:32:52,020
covered by an insurance policy, which is the
value of the hundred thousand dollars with
a

1423
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:58,020
thousand dollars déductible and in this case
what happened from the way it is. I think this
is

1424
02:32:58,020 --> 02:33:02,080
for there's a bill for two thousand dollars
that is being the spot.

1425
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:05,080
>> The third Bill Sixty-five thousand. >> Years
Bill for sixty-five

1426
02:33:05,080 --> 02:33:11,080
thousand dollars where the insurance company
is a little uncomfortable with the way, the

1427
02:33:11,080 --> 02:33:17,080
words are reported and what? What the what
would that was all for so the insurance company.
Is

1428
02:33:17,080 --> 02:33:25,080
suggesting that perhaps I would like to have
a review and it's also suggesting that if that

1429
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:33,080
sixty-five thousand dollars that they make
not pay or not and pay for it. I've got it
right. I got

1430
02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:37,080
it right. >> At the city. >> WE will not rembourse.

1431
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:45,080
Expenses. So the process now is what were proving
is to have this go to some formal

1432
02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:49,080
arbitration that which will look at that arbitration
of this review, which will look at the

1433
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:55,080
legal bill and make a determination or recommendations
whether they think it's

1434
02:33:55,080 --> 02:34:07,040
suffisant or try to. Negotiate better. Tabling
of what the cost were in our build for and
we had

1435
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:13,040
to respect the deadline from when the bill
was submitted to pass in this resolution. If
we

1436
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:19,040
didn't do it then we won't be able to going
forward and so what we are still waiting for
is

1437
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:27,040
the law firm to decide whether they will on
their own without going to this process list
all

1438
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:32,040
the gives the listing of all the expanse all
of all the our build that I get that.

1439
02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:42,040
>> I almost if I just just have this thing
the first step is the consolidation and if
the

1440
02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:49,040
consolidation false. WE will have and arbitration
with three a bunch of three people that

1441
02:34:49,040 --> 02:34:59,040
will decide in arbitration. >> So just to be
clear. This is a discussion between the insurer

1442
02:34:59,040 --> 02:35:06,000
and the city has to billing and cost is what
this. >> Is between the city insurance

1443
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:12,000
and the law. >> And the Lawford. Just so you
know so that's so the answer is

1444
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:21,000
inquiring has to billing and to cost, which
is the normal process. So twelve 12.1.

1445
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:35,000
>> WE have to vote on. >> That I do it with
all of favor. All against. Hockey 12.1.

1446
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:42,000
>> One of the list of not delegate of August
twelve twenty twenty five 12.2.

1447
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:46,000
>> Déposer la liste des changements personnels
par décision déléguée pour le mois

1448
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:52,000
d'août 2025. >> Draft Collective Agreement
for Pointe-Claire White Collar

1449
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:56,000
Employees for the period of January first twenty
twenty tries to december thirty first

1450
02:35:56,000 --> 02:36:00,060
twenty twenty at the City of Pointe-Claire
has more than the white collar employees,

1451
02:36:00,060 --> 02:36:04,060
including one hundred fifteen permanent employees
and fifteen auxiliary employees the

1452
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:08,060
employment contract between the Syndicat des
fonctionnaires municipaux de Montréal and
the

1453
02:36:08,060 --> 02:36:12,060
City of Pointe-Claire. Expired on December
thirty first twenty twenty two a series of
some

1454
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:16,060
thirty meetings world to reach an agreement
leading to the ritual of a collective of

1455
02:36:16,060 --> 02:36:20,060
collective agreement The white collar employees
accepted the draft collective agreement by

1456
02:36:20,060 --> 02:36:24,060
the majority of both at the general meeting
held on July third twenty twenty five to come

1457
02:36:24,060 --> 02:36:30,060
into the new collective Collective agreement
must be approved by council.

1458
02:36:30,060 --> 02:36:40,060
>> For two one, two two three do I have a mover.
>> Bruno Tremblay, District six.

1459
02:36:40,060 --> 02:36:45,060
>> 14.1. Se prévaloir de l'option de renouvellement
prévue au contrat intervenue

1460
02:36:45,060 --> 02:36:49,060
avec Entreprise Vaillant en 1994, Inc. Pour
la saison hivernale 2025 2026 au montant

1461
02:36:49,060 --> 02:36:57,060
de 482 691,72 $ sous taxes incluses pour la
location avec opérateur d'équipement de

1462
02:36:57,060 --> 02:37:01,020
déneigement. Il s'agit de la période la première
période de renouvellement sur deux prévues

1463
02:37:01,020 --> 02:37:05,020
au contrat. >> Contract for pruning and cabling
works that in our really

1464
02:37:05,020 --> 02:37:09,020
right for twenty twenty five season Two services
d'arbres Primeau Inc. For the total

1465
02:37:09,020 --> 02:37:14,020
amount of thousand one hundred and two and
for taxes included these works consists of
pruning

1466
02:37:14,020 --> 02:37:19,020
and three located on residential property within
the municipal right away and in the city parks

1467
02:37:19,020 --> 02:37:23,020
and green spaces. >> 14.3 Confirmer l'adhésion
de la ville de Pointe-Claire au

1468
02:37:23,020 --> 02:37:27,020
regroupement de la Ville de Montréal pour
la fourniture d'essence ordinaire et super

1469
02:37:27,020 --> 02:37:32,020
pour la période du 4 janvier 2026 au 3 janvier
2029, avec deux périodes optionnelles de

1470
02:37:32,020 --> 02:37:35,020
douze mois chacune. La ville a déjà adhéré
à un tel regroupement. La consommation

1471
02:37:35,020 --> 02:37:41,020
pour l'année 2024 s'est élevée à 253 260
$, taxes incluses. La dépense pour l'année
2026 est

1472
02:37:41,020 --> 02:37:47,020
conditionnelle à l'approbation du budget.
>> The Edition of the City of

1473
02:37:47,020 --> 02:37:51,020
Pointe-Claire to the STM Group Group purchase
for the supply of the diesel standard and for

1474
02:37:51,020 --> 02:37:57,020
generator for the period of February for twenty
twenty six to January thirty first twenty

1475
02:37:57,020 --> 02:38:01,080
twenty nine with two years of two months each
the city has previously join such group

1476
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:07,080
pretty consumption for the year twenty twenty
for I of two for it thousand for dollars taxes,

1477
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:11,080
including the expenditure for the year twenty
twenty six is conditional approval.

1478
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:15,080
>> 14.5 Confirmer l'adhésion de la Ville de
Pointe-Claire au Regroupement du Centre

1479
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:19,080
d'acquisitions gouvernementales pour l'achat
de pneus neufs Rechapés et Remoulés pour
la

1480
02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:25,080
période du premier avril 2026 au 31 mars 2029.
La Ville désire adhérer à ce regroupement
pour

1481
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:29,080
se procurer les différents pneus requis pour
ces opérations, le tout selon les besoins
et les

1482
02:38:29,080 --> 02:38:33,080
quantités estimés nécessaires à ces activités.
>> Six Exercice. Renewal option

1483
02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:39,080
for provided for in the contract enter into
with Roxboro Excavation, Inc. For the twenty

1484
02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:44,080
twenty five twenty twenty six winter season
in the amount of one million hundred thousand
two

1485
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:49,080
hundred and taxes included for snow removal
in the Industrial Park and Greenwich District.

1486
02:38:49,080 --> 02:39:01,040
This is the first of two, two renewal period.
>> For one to have another.

1487
02:39:01,040 --> 02:39:07,040
>> Thorsten Colin district, Three. >> Bruno
Tremblay District six.

1488
02:39:07,040 --> 02:39:11,040
>> 15.1 Se prévaloir de l'option de renouvellement
prévue au contrat intervenu avec

1489
02:39:11,040 --> 02:39:17,040
Quincaillerie Notre-Dame Inc. Pour la période
du premier septembre 2025 au 31 août 2026

1490
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:21,040
au montant de 78 232,83 $ sous taxes incluses
pour la fourniture et la livraison de

1491
02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:27,040
pièces, outils, matériaux et équipements
en menuiserie. Il s'agit de la première et
unique

1492
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:31,040
période de renouvellement. >> Award Contract
for Professional Service for

1493
02:39:31,040 --> 02:39:37,040
Construction works related to the City, Rooftop
Guard real and warning lines to the Barranco

1494
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:42,040
Pino et Barres Varin, Inc. For the total amount
of one hundred thousand dollars and one cents

1495
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:47,040
taxes included. >> 15.3 Octroyer un contrat
pour des travaux de réfection de

1496
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:53,040
toiture du chalet Parc Hermitage à toiture
trois étoiles Inc. Pour un montant total de
quatre

1497
02:39:53,040 --> 02:39:57,040
20 471 $, taxes incluses, La toiture du chalet
a atteint sa fin de vie utile.

1498
02:39:57,040 --> 02:40:03,000
>> Pour Order to the contract enter into it
groupe pichet for repair works and partial

1499
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:11,000
redevelopment of the value of library baseman
for in the mouth of one hundred thousand one

1500
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:14,000
hundred fifty one thousand seven hundred and
taxes included. The change is involved electrical

1501
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:17,000
architectural ventilation and plumbing works.
>> 15.5 Approuver une

1502
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:19,000
modification au contrat intervenu avec construction
Tolva pour le réaménagement des

1503
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:25,000
suites de bureaux du service de l'inspection
et de la sécurité publique et de l'unité
de

1504
02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:31,000
sauvetage volontaire de Pointe-Claire pour
un montant de 89 895 $ et 64 sous taxes

1505
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:33,000
incluses. Les modifications touchent des travaux
d'électricité, d'architecture,

1506
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:42,000
de structure et de mécanique. >> Pour 15.1
à 15.5. Do I have a motor.

1507
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:51,000
>> District huit. >> In secondaire district.
>> Order to the contract enter

1508
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:56,000
into with construction CBP, Inc. For the extension
and renovations of public works for

1509
02:40:56,000 --> 02:41:02,060
an amount of nine thousand for one dollars
taxes included the change involved electrical

1510
02:41:02,060 --> 02:41:06,060
architectural structural mechanical and of
engineering works.

1511
02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:23,060
>> For point six do I have a mover. Alignement
OK those against all

1512
02:41:23,060 --> 02:41:30,060
against. You can both. >> You against Mister
Cousineau. >> I just Okay, so I'm I'm all

1513
02:41:30,060 --> 02:41:39,060
those against there we go that you. Okay. >>
17 Donc, les personnes

1514
02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:46,060
présentes peuvent s'adresser au conseil pour
les items 17.1 et 17.2. The Persons President
mais

1515
02:41:46,060 --> 02:41:53,060
Address council on item seven in one and Seventeen
point two. >> 17.1 Considérer une.

1516
02:41:53,060 --> 02:41:59,060
>> Demande Someone who would like to help from
the microphone now not from the site it's so

1517
02:41:59,060 --> 02:42:05,020
everybody at home can hear. >> I just for what
you say and then where do you have to talk

1518
02:42:05,020 --> 02:42:11,020
first. >> You go ahead now. I think she speaks
now the. Before we want

1519
02:42:11,020 --> 02:42:20,020
it now, it's the time. >> For this I leave
you one hillcrest so I was just going to

1520
02:42:20,020 --> 02:42:26,020
see the outcome of the decision and then maybe
on it if it doesn't go my way.

1521
02:42:26,020 --> 02:42:32,020
>> So for that you we'll have to sit and wait
for the decision if you have more comments
to add

1522
02:42:32,020 --> 02:42:41,020
feel free to make them. >> But I. >> What do
have to try and to

1523
02:42:41,020 --> 02:42:47,020
go. >> OK at my house were doing work to increase
the home

1524
02:42:47,020 --> 02:42:53,020
insulation and the green energy of it we leave
right next to the highway. So now it is a big

1525
02:42:53,020 --> 02:42:59,020
issue which is why we are really doing this
work in the first part. WE are also changing
the

1526
02:42:59,020 --> 02:43:05,080
exterior colour of the house, which I think
was the main issue with our purement application.

1527
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:09,080
We've settled for a new colour that the committee
suggested that I was told the committee

1528
02:43:09,080 --> 02:43:15,080
suggested to the light of colour than what
we originally wanted to much our neighbor colour
of

1529
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:23,080
two doors down. It's the exact same colour
same thing that that is the council and make
it go

1530
02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:29,080
our way the work is necessary to do in the
home. The chimney really have to come off because

1531
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:35,080
it's the structural damaged and so we're structuring
the rest of the work to improve the

1532
02:43:35,080 --> 02:43:39,080
efficiency of the home so that is why we are
asking for this it. Thank you.

1533
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:46,080
>> Could we just have your name for the Kimberly.
>> Colette.

1534
02:43:46,080 --> 02:43:50,080
>> 17.1 Considérer une demande de dérogation
mineure concernant la propriété située au
61,

1535
02:43:50,080 --> 02:43:55,080
avenue Hillcrest. La recommandation du Comité
consultatif d'urbanisme est à

1536
02:43:55,080 --> 02:44:01,040
l'effet de permettre de la peinture sur la
brique, alors que cela n'est pas permis.

1537
02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:07,040
>> Request for conditional us concerning the
property of that one something you the

1538
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:11,040
recommendation is to allow the business administrative
office and online travel agency as in

1539
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:15,040
additional us in the single family detached
home with certaines conditions.

1540
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:24,040
>> Port 17.1 17.2 Do I have a mover. >> Bruno
Tremblay, District six.

1541
02:44:24,040 --> 02:44:33,040
>> District. >> Of Improving. >> 17.3. Considérez
les plans

1542
02:44:33,040 --> 02:44:37,040
d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 290 chemin

1543
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:42,040
du bord du lac Lakeshore. C'est pour des rénovations
extérieures de la suite. 104 Le studio

1544
02:44:42,040 --> 02:44:47,040
Crevier La recommandation du Comité consultatif
d'urbanisme est à l'effet d'approuver les

1545
02:44:47,040 --> 02:44:55,040
plans. >> Architectural Integration Program
Plans with respect to

1546
02:44:55,040 --> 02:44:59,040
the Property Situated at Twenty-three Circle
avenue. This is for a one floor extension as

1547
02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:04,000
well as exterior renovation to the existing
house and the planning advisory committee

1548
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:07,000
recommendations is to improve the plan 17.5.
>> Considérer les plans

1549
02:45:07,000 --> 02:45:12,000
d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 123, avenue

1550
02:45:12,000 --> 02:45:18,000
Donegani pour une modification de la terrasse
commerciale, soit par l'ajout d'une pergola.
La

1551
02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:22,000
recommandation du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme
est à l'effet d'approuver les plans.

1552
02:45:22,000 --> 02:45:30,000
>> For Seventeen Point trois The seventh do
have them over. >> That the Council accept
the

1553
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:36,000
recommendation of the planning advisory committee
for those three items and the planning,

1554
02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:42,000
the planning architectural integration plan.
>> And secondary.

1555
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:50,000
>> Saint Romain. >> Of the side planning and
architectural integration

1556
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:54,000
program plans with respect to the property
situated sixty-one hillcrest avenue. This is
for

1557
02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:57,000
exterior renovations and window replacement
The planning Advisory committee

1558
02:45:57,000 --> 02:46:01,060
recommendations is to approve the plan. >>
17.7. Considérer les plans

1559
02:46:01,060 --> 02:46:05,060
d'implantation et d'intégration architecturale
relatif à la propriété située au 438 avenue

1560
02:46:05,060 --> 02:46:10,060
St-Louis, pour une nouvelle construction d'une
habitation unifamiliale, la recommandation

1561
02:46:10,060 --> 02:46:14,060
du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme est à l'effet
d'approuver les plans.

1562
02:46:14,060 --> 02:46:18,060
>> Point of the Sight Planning and architectural
integration program plan with respect to the

1563
02:46:18,060 --> 02:46:23,060
property of Situated at à Saint-Louis Avenue.
This is for a new construction of a single

1564
02:46:23,060 --> 02:46:26,060
family Dwelling The Planning Advisory Committee
Recommendations is to approuve

1565
02:46:26,060 --> 02:46:30,060
the plan. >> 17.9 Considérer les plans d'implantation
et d'intégration

1566
02:46:30,060 --> 02:46:35,060
architecturale relatif à la propriété située
au 26, avenue Weston Circle, pour une nouvelle

1567
02:46:35,060 --> 02:46:40,060
construction d'une habitation unifamiliale.
La recommandation du Comité consultatif

1568
02:46:40,060 --> 02:46:52,060
d'urbanisme est à l'effet d'approuver les
plans. >> Sept point 6.1 District.

1569
02:46:52,060 --> 02:47:00,020
>> Bruno Tremblay Seigneurie. District. >>
Adopte a resolution for a

1570
02:47:00,020 --> 02:47:04,020
specific construction alterations or occupancy
proposal for inamovible at

1571
02:47:04,020 --> 02:47:08,020
Eighteen dix Source boulevard Authorized in
the construction of a new building and the

1572
02:47:08,020 --> 02:47:12,020
development of the manitoulin transport slight
in several phases. This is the final

1573
02:47:12,020 --> 02:47:25,020
adoption. >> Pour 17.10 do I have a over. >>
Huit Bissonnette District.

1574
02:47:25,020 --> 02:47:33,020
>> Closer Closer for closure do I have a mover.
>> District for.

1575
02:47:33,020 --> 02:47:39,020
>> District trois. >> Or. Merci tout le monde.
C'était long et peut être

1576
02:47:39,020 --> 02:47:59,020
ennuyeux, mais thank you for your patience
and in your stamina.