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>> Mr. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, can you turn on
your microphone for the video, please?

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>> Good evening everyone. Thank you for coming
out. I know why you're here, and there's a
lot

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of emotions and stuff going on, but we have
a lot to cover. We'll get through it, we'll
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through it together, and we'll give you the
opportunity to be heard. But let me start my

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opening statements. Then we'll get to the nitty
gritty after. So, Madame de Monsieur. Ladies

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and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to
the July 26th Regular Council meeting. A note

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to our community. I dermont Touchet. Revenir
sur les qui se sont habitués, sir. No

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territoire de near. First, I want to address
the residents who were affected. We know that

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events like this are difficult, but also cause
a great deal of stress. On behalf of the

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members of Municipal Council, I want you to
know that our thoughts are with you and that

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we are fully aware of what many of you are
still going through. Since this event on. Our

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municipal teams have been mobilized in the
field to support recovery operations,

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including the collection of flood related debris.
In the face of the situation, we have

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also seen our community come together, neighbors
supporting one another and checking in on

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each other. Those gestures say a great deal
about the strength of our community. Come voulez

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vous avez la ville de plusieurs from afin de
mieux adaptation of the territoire or de

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printemps? Je peux vous les membres de Conseil
et le administration sont mobilisés

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pour faire progresser le dossier de la gestion
de la. PVA, qui est un grande priorité.

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These efforts are. Maintenant dans un plan
de action structure et autour de trois

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access concrete. The first access focuses on
better informing residents, helping

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better understand the impacts of heavy rainfall,
and learn how to prepare for these

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situations. Three public conferences were held
in 2025 and 26 to present best

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practices for making homes more resilient.
The recordings are available online through
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website. The Access Port LA Port Infrastructure
Municipality, La collaboration

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avec la école de technologie supérieure pour
oser sa sur un plan de gestion des eaux PVA
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Investigated on the project infrastructure
qui permet de mieux retenir absorbé depuis.

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Vincent du projet. Sont a l'heure de la bioretention
dans les. L'avenue Elgin et la

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Avenue a la. Vegetables. Vegetation Avenue,
Winthrop, un des autres importants sont

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encore an investment de plus de two milliards
de dollars a parc naturel terracotta terracotta

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aussi un projet reconstruction de la Avenue,
Ivanhoe Crescent. The third access aims to

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support residents in adapting their properties.
This evening, council will be asked to adopt

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a financial assistance program to support the
installation of rainwater retention and

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absorption absorption measures on residential
properties. This program will allow eligible

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homeowners to receive financial assistance,
covering 50% of the value of eligible work,
up to a

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maximum of $5,000 per property by the end of
the summer. This financial support will become

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complemented by an advisory service offered
in collaboration with the Echo

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Echo Habitacion, to help homeowners identify
the measures best suited for their

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situation. This is a concrete and a. Plan d'action
pour les sur le territoire Elle. Dans

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Notre volonté de jeu de facon de lab and collective
for foresight. Naissance de pointe

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Claire. So that's part of what we're going
to be talking about later on this evening.
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get to all the fine details when we hear your
questions and your concerns, sir, no more

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positive Jimmy. Jam jam. Maintenant vous parle
de quelque chose de développement.

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C'est la vie de Notre communauté. First, I
would like to highlight the recent opening

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of a supermarket in Pointe Claire. I hope if
you have you had a chance to go to it? Show

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you. Raise your hands. Are you happy just to
let you know we've met with them and they're

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so, so happy. Of the people in Pointe Claire,
they just love us. They're they we're

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supporting them. They feel energized. And they're,
they're really, really community

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leaders. So don't be shy. If you have any suggestions,
comments, talk to them and

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become friends with them. They're good people.
We're very pleased to welcome this new

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business to Valois. This opening reflects the
vitality of this area and provides new

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options for residents. It's a wonderful addition
to our community and we wish them

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every success. Historical buildings on the
prochaine Coupe de petites. Les photos de

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les Propriétaires heritage, qui a fait le
passé maison qui considered a heritage list
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sont de la ville memorial. Les photos les maisons.
So see the war on terror photos. They'll

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be they'll be identified, but they're building
an inventory and a. Of all their properties

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and then and then documenting everything. So
in the next little while, you might see

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people coming around taking pictures of your
house. If it's heritage, there's over about

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300 houses on this list of Montreal came up
with last year, and there's been a couple 100

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on another alternative list that they haven't
decided if they are or they aren't. In the

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meantime, they're going around to take pictures
to put them in an inventory and, and build
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a dossier on them so they'll be identified.
And if you have any questions or concerns and

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you're not sure, you can call public security
at 6301234 and they'll tell you if they're

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legit or not. As you see. Merci. Tout le monde,
les citoyens. Qui a été avec le fait

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nationale Saint-Jean-Baptiste et la fete de
Canada, the premier Juliette. So I'd like

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to thank everybody citizens, volunteers, employees
who made the celebrations happy kind of

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rained a little bit. But you know what? It
was impressive how many people still stuck

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around the park and came out and enjoy the
festivities. And the fete Nationale

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Saint-Jean-Baptiste went off without a hitch.
Beautiful day and everybody enjoyed it. So

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thank you to everybody. Another thing I'd like
to just mention employees barbecue the barbecue,

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please. Employee say circa on a Plusieurs employee
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The person or so barbecue has come de nouveaux
relation start new relationships. It gets

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people talking. Gets people to know each other.
We have, you know, hundreds of employees and

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they work in all different departments. So
it's a time of year that they get together
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chit chat and have fun. And it was a great
success. And that too, we got hit by a big

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rainstorm and stuff was flying around and everything
that day, but that was the last ten

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minutes. So it was it was a success. So it
was very positive. All right. Let me

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just make sure I didn't forget anything. I
had one other thing, but I don't know where
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Okay, good. I'm going to go around the table
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Mr. stock, do you have anything you'd like
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Northview, I'll address the monkey in the room.
Obviously the rainfall was horrible. I

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recognized many of you that I saw in the streets
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everything is being looked at at Winthrop and
Hymas. You know, it's we're looking at

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everything that was done. I was flooded myself
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must continue. And I firmly tell you from the
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doing the best we can for the last little while.
And if you believe I saw many of you, I

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visited many of you. I was walking there. I
was 1145, and I'm not going to explain what
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did. And I'm not looking for empathy. But there's
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visited 46 homes the the day after in the last
three weeks, let's just say there was 100

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homes that were flooded. There was 25% who
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sheer water mitigation that existed. And just,
you know, as your representative in

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Northview and for the other citizens on my
page, I will be holding after this. I've spoken

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to many of you about the Eagle Habitation project,
which is coming through, which will be

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approved today. And then the, I guess the the
door will be unlatched for, you know, next

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couple of days for inquiries and submissions,
I will be holding a teams meeting in the

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next week, week and a half to explain exactly
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the same time having a good understanding of
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what can or what should be done and, and what
we need to do to move forward. This is an US

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problem. We can't lift the city and change
all the pipes. Okay. It's, you know, as Karl's
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there, it's an uphill, downhill water mitigation
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your time, but I'm there for you citizens.
You know it. And we'll we'll get through this,

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but we have to get through this together. Just
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And I will I will bring them to the administration.
Thank you. >> Mr. Palmer.

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>> The. Mace present a la fin de la session.
Si vous avez des questions soit pour un bon
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répondre aux questions spécifiquement pour
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quartier numero eight. I don't have anything
right now, but I will be staying after the

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session for a good amount of time. Anybody
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I'll be glad to answer them directly. Thank
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>> Okay. >> My sympathy, my solidarity avec
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remercier, les premiers et les employés qui
sont en et. I also want to take a moment to
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about the most flooded residents of district
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condominium project and on Alston. Now the
Greenwich condo project was partly built over
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wetland and involved cutting down some 150
trees. At the time that it was built, the

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main stormwater infrastructure for it was a
drainage ditch built along the property lines

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between Alston and the primary townhouses in
my district, and the other ones further up
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And John Drew and Councilor Tremblay's. Now,
since that since it was put in place, the

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residents on both sides have experienced repeated
flooding, not just in the major storms of

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2024 and 2025, but several times before. I
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townhouses, it was nine times in total. Now,
two weeks before the storm on June 20th, I
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visiting and forwarding complaints from Alston
residents that the ditch wasn't

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draining. Even without rain. It was half full
of water with bulrushes growing and drains

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that appeared to be blocked. Residents who
have asked have typically been told by the
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that it's private property and nothing can
be done, but some have made the argument that
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problem is, in fact, with the connecting city
storm sewers and question whether private

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land ends and the city's begins. I made requests
for documentation on this, and any

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assessments done on potential flood risks.
When the Greenwich project was approved, I
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told to fill out an access to information request
when I received the results, I hope to

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be able to share them and see whether they
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What does seem clear to me is that the current
drainage system has repeatedly failed to

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protect residents from flooding. My position
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councilor for district four is that having.
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development in a wetland, which I think knowing
then what we know now, we would have

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approved, I think, a different development
with a different. Kind of drainage system.
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not there at the time, but this is what I think
would occur. I believe that council has a

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moral obligation to make the situation right.
I think this should include both improving

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the city's storm drains and improving the city
infrastructure that is

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currently there, and taking ownership or a
servitude of the strip of land where the ditch

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is located so that we can replace it or do
corrective work. Some will say that we

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should do nothing because it's still private
property. But I would point out that this

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evening we are adopting what I think is a very
good flood preparedness subsidy program.

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However, it's one that benefits only those
who have single family homes. If you're

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multi-family residential, if you're part of
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access to it. And so with that in mind, I think
we need to be generous in considering

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accommodations that could be made for people
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finally, you know, I think if it is our intent
as a council to approve further developments

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in this area, it is incumbent on us to improve
the stormwater drain systems and the

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infrastructure that is there to serve the project
that is there right now. Thank you.

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>> Merci. Mr. Tremblay. >> Merci, Monsieur
mayor. Good evening. UN peu les memes.

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Message queue. Les conseillers au sujet des
inundations également disponible vous avez

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des questions comme d'habitude. As usual, I'm
available through email, telephone. If there's

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anything you'd like to discuss with regards
to the flooding events or any other issue in

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the district. Thank you. >> Mr. Ludovic Matthews.
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them all my sympathies to all those who were
affected by the flooding. And I know it's not

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easy. It's it's it's a long process. And if
you've never experienced before, quite the

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shock. I just wanted to point out the great
work of our council, and especially Eric

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Stork, who I know was on the ground and dealing
with lots of things and as well as the mayor.

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Sorry if there were others, but those were
the two that I, I recognized the were were
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site and also Jill and the administration and
all the Public works employees. Thank

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you for being there for them. And I'm sorry
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Anyway, have a good night. Thank you. >> Madam
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>> Merci, monsieur. UN grand solidarité avec
toutes les autres districts et sa veut pas

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dire dans. Pour moi. J'ai déja été un grand
solidarité avec vous tous merci bonne soirée.

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>> And my last comment I forgot to mention
is that I'm very proud. And for the city, we

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just signed our union contract with the for
the blue collars. And it's it's good for us.
It's

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good for them. And again, like it's been mentioned
many times around this table tonight, they

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stepped up. They've been there for us not only
during the flooding, but during all the

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other days that we deserve as they offer to
us in the winter and summer. So I'm glad to
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that's resolved. Anything to say? Mr. Gerard.
>> On that note, specifically

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or on. >> That note specifically. >> It's a
it's a good

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essentially agreement that the city has with
the the blue collars, if that's what you're

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referring to. Absolutely. Yeah. And I know,
I just wanted to mention that there's Missus

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Colon too. I don't know if she wanted to mention
a word of entry as well.

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>> I'll go to I'll go to missus. She's on the
on screen tonight because she's ill and has
a

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fever, so she cannot be present with us. So
she's going to be doing it from Zoom. Anything

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you'd like to say, missus Colon? >> Merci beaucoup.
La mer a just a sentiment de la mer et.

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Conseillere de la inundacion. Mais IL y a un
not positive. Juste un petit palais de Valois

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lieu la semaine prochaine. Le soir la a a.
On a positive note, we do have our community
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still going on. And just a reminder that the
fair is next week, Thursday, July 16th in

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the evening. >> Thank you very much. Okay.
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>> Nous devrions dans le numéro le 6666666.
At 17.4. We should read. The projected lot
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and 6695287. >> Perfect. Can we have a 11.1?
Adoption of.

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>> Ludovic Matthews district two. >> District.

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>> All in favor? Thank you. >> Madame Wendy.
Mosley, president de Pointe Claire et

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de la médaille de la gouvernance pour les
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going to be honoring a woman this evening,
Mrs. Wendy Mosley, who is who? I got the

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Lieutenant Governor's award. So say avec beaucoup
de nous aujourd'hui and naissance de la

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rue de la médaille de lieutenant governor
pour les années de Madame Wendy

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Huntzinger. Since arriving in Pointe Claire
in 1984, Mrs. Huntzinger has devoted a

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significant part of her life to volunteering
and to the well-being of families in our

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community. For more than four decades, she
has been involved with many causes, including

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guides, scouts, the missing children's network,
fundraisers for women's shelters, Quebec

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Special Olympics as well as child safety and
prevention initiatives. Des jeunes de la

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famille, des plusieurs organismes de la was
Madame Hunzinger a contribution to the

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community solidaire? Plus en plus humain C.
Ski resort de son pour se non seulement en

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plus de son implication, mais aussi son constant
sa generosity et sa volonté de les

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autres une année. Mrs. Moseley, your commitment
to is a source of inspiration for your family,

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your neighbors and our entire city. You remind
us that volunteer volunteerism, even

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when carried out quietly and humbly, can have
a deep, lasting impact. I would also

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like to thank the Pointe Claire Senior Center
for submitting her nomination. Thanks to this

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initiative, we are able today to recognize
both this commitment and exceptional

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person who is part of our community. Claire
is a. Municipal officer. Plusieurs

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sincere felicitations. Merci pour votre generosity
et votre contribution exceptional and

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Notre community. I invite you now to come in
the front, and we'll take a picture and show

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you. Show off your great medallion. >> So humble
that she didn't

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even go get it. It was because she wasn't well,
she didn't tell anybody about it. We had

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to leave right behind. >> You guys be quiet
about it. >> I've already had my say.

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>> Okay. >> So 33.1 to approve the minutes
of the regular meeting

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held on June 2nd, 2026. >> Have a mover and
secondary, please.

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>> David Matthews, district des district. >>
All in favor? Thank you.

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>> There is no follow up question at this point,
sir, from the previous council

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meeting. >> Okay. So just a for people who
just come for the first

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time every month, when somebody asks a question,
we don't have the answer or and if we don't

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meet with you during the month after the question
was asked, we give you the answer the

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following month so you can follow up. You can
find it online, at least it educates

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everybody who was present. And maybe people
learn things and find out different things
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happen in the city. So thank you, Mr. Jawad.
>> En francais. En anglais.

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Finalement l'ordre de votre inscription. Parfaitement
suivie. Nous allons commencer

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par les citoyens qui sont ici pour des questions
plus générale et par la suite. Nous

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avec les personnes qui sont inscrits pour tout
ce qui les épisodes de plus de la semaine

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passée. N'est pas destinée a des conseils
ou a doit personnel des. Insinuations

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veulent respectueuse ou des trois denigrate
ou intimidate. Pour les affaires de la ville,

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Le droit. Citoyen et de la ville de la. Par
la suite n'est pas la période. Des questions

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est une durée de la majorité. Des membres
du Conseil présent peuvent soit prolonger
le nom

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de question et avec ou sans preamble, au des
trois questions au président de la

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science. Donc Monsieur le Maire, qui peut aussi
des verifications supplémentaires

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sont nécessaires pour répondre lors de la
prochaine séance ou par la parole peut également
un

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membre du Conseil au directeur général de
la ville, afin de répondre ou de la réponse
a la

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demande de président. Des questions doivent
porter sur des affaires NE peuvent pas

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devant les tribunaux ou un quasi judicial ou
une affaire qui fait l'objet d'une enquete

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dans la réponse a la ville et le président
de la science et le droit de parole, qui NE
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les dispositions de reglement de la région
de la science du Conseil.

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>> So exceptionally tonight, we will not follow
the order that you signed up for, and we will

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hear general questions and then all questions
relating to flooding following that, the

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question period is not intended for the sharing
of opinion, advice or engaging in debate.

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All participants must refrain from making personal
remarks, insinuations or using violent,

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offensive, threatening or disrespectful language,
as well as employing words deemed

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vexatious, disparaging or intimidating. Only
questions of public interest are permitted.

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All questions of private interest unrelated
to city business are not permitted.

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Priority to speak is given to citizens and
taxpayers of the city of Pointe-Claire.

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Nonresidents may ask their questions afterward.
Time permitting. The question period

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has a maximum duration of 90 minutes. However,
a majority of council members present may

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agree to extend the question period. Each person
is limited to two questions with or

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without a preliminary statement, and must not
exceed a total allotted time of three minutes

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per question. Questions are addressed to the
chairperson, who may respond immediately or,

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if further verification is required, provide
a response at the next meeting or in writing.

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The floor may also be seated to another council
member or to the City Manager to provide or

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complete the response at the president's request.
If the question concerns a matter

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pending before the courts or a judicial body
or a matter under investigation, were responding

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could be prejudicial to the city or an individual,
or could disclose part of the evidence

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or arguments. The question may not be answered.
And lastly, the chairperson may limit or

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withdraw speaking rights from any member of
the public who does not comply with the

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internal governance rules surrounding council
meetings. >> Thank you.

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>> So I'm going to start with Susan Weaver.
>> District eight. I'd like

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more information for item 16.2, which has to
do with Sandy vac. Approve a change order to
the

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contract entered into with Sandy vac for televised
inspection works of stormwater

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and sanitary networks on various streets for
2026. What streets will be prioritized and

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where? Telephone televised inspections done
before? And I'll wait for the answer when

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you come to the item. And my second question
is, does the city regularly monitor the

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cleanout of storm water and sanitary drains,
and will these televised inspections aid them

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to do so? >> So yes, we do a regular clean
out of the drains, and we

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do film them. And it's a process. We can't
do them all in the same year. We we go

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through them regularly. It takes to do. The
whole city would take approximately three

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years. We just bought some new equipment or
ordering new equipment that will help us do

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it more often, right? >> That's correct. We're
purchasing new equipment.

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>> So we're purchasing our own truck now, so
we won't rely on other companies outside of

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Sandy and so on, so forth. So we'll be able
to do it on a more regular basis. And storm

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sewers, believe it or not, from what I heard,
there are places, yes, they get blocked or
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get dirty, but a lot of times they self-clean
because the flow of the water goes through

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them. So it's not every mile in every corner
that has to be done all the time. But what

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we're doing, and we'll hear from you people
tonight, and the survey that we've asked for

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is to identify areas that have become problems,
that we can start knowing where to

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intervene sooner. >> Okay. So you'll be in
more control if we have our own

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equipment. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.

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>> Well, it could be, but we're looking at
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>> Hi there. Hello. Quick questions about the
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Number one, we have the water, the big water
retention thing. It's been filled in about
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feet or a foot and a half now with rocks. The
day of the 20th, it filled in about 2.5 hours.
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videotaped it so and it was about five feet
deep at the time. I'm wondering if, because

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I did ask the construction workers and they
weren't sure, is there going to be a fence

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around that? According to the Quebec bylaw,
if there's things that have a the sides are
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than 65 degrees. There should be some kind
of a retention fence. It's right next to a

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baby park and less than, what, half a mile
away from a monument, like a monument to a

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kid that drowned because of flooding from the
creek. So I'm wondering if there's going to

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be a fence put up. >> I'll look into that one.
I'll have to get back to you.

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>> Okay? Okay. Second of all, the there is
water that is staying in the bottom of the

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ponds. As a result, the mosquitoes have multiplied
by about 10,000. So I'm wondering,

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wondering if there is anything that is going
to be done, because that was a concern that

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I did bring up before, that the water wouldn't
all drain. And so far I've been watching. I've

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taken pictures. At one point it was full of
green water. They've regulated that with

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some rocks, but they're still standing water
all over. >> That's a that's a new one

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we're digging right now at Belmont right there.
Yeah. >> On sandalwood.

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>> Yeah. Okay. So I mean, it's not even finished
yet. They're working on it.

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>> Well, the two parts that are finished. >>
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>> There's water water that's staying there.
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guess like an overall big project. Maybe that
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it will be absorbed by the other part that's
not finished yet. I don't, I don't know, but

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we'll we'll pay attention to it. I mean, a
great concern, but just let's, let's let them

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finish a project first. >> Yeah, I'm just asking
because we're living with the

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mosquitoes now. Okay. >> Good question. Let's
see how the water drains. That's all

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done. >> Last thing I just wanted to thank
you guys for the work

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that was done. They finished on the Friday
night, the night, the 19th, the berms in the
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of my my where I live. And as a result, the
water came within maybe four, three inches
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top of those berms. And all the people on sandalwood
that the sandalwood that goes, none of

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them flooded this time. So I wanted to thank
you for that. Also. That's something that can

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be very easily done. Maybe we can look at those
kinds of things elsewhere in

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Pointe-Claire, as well as using something different
other than mulch in the baby park that is

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on that street, because the the flooding that
resulted there mostly was because of yes,

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there was a lot of rain, but all those drains
were filled with debris from the park that

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came out of terracotta, wiped all the mulch
out of the park into the street, blocked the

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sewers on one side, and there were a bunch
of gravel. Based on the work that's being done

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that blocked the sewers on the other side.
>> So great observation. We saw

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the same thing you saw, and all this information
is great. The from that building, that berm

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on terracotta and seeing the results of it
already, we've looked at putting them

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elsewhere already in your area to help because
it did save a lot of houses. So yes.

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>> Very doable and doesn't cost 2 million.
>> And we're using the dirt

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that we're digging out of the park. So yes,
so it was a it was financially a good thing.

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But thank you. >> Thank you. >> Gary Carr.

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>> Good evening. My question is on 329 the
corner with the trees. I know they went past

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their timeline of June. Does anybody know if
they've got an extension and to how far along

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it goes. >> Well we're working with them on
a bunch of stuff. Mr. Jawad.

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>> Yeah, that's correct. Public works went
to communicate with them. We gave them an extension

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till July, end of July to plant those five
trees. And they want to do supplemental planting

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there, I mean, sorry for the and landscaping.
Sorry. And we're analyzing that with them

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because that whole territory belongs to, to
them. So it's in the works in terms of moving

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that forward. >> Thank you very much. Thank
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>> Sandra Mackey. >> Good evening. District
two. My question is around the land

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that was sold to the to the rim near Fairview
Forest. When a property is subdivided, my

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understanding is that the the person buying
the land has to either give 10% of the 10%
of

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the land that they buy to the city, or 10%
of the land value to the city. And I don't
know,

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because this was an expropriation, I guess.
Well, all I can tell you is applied,

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and maybe. >> Mr. Gerard knows more than I
do, except that when that line

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was expropriated by the rim, the government
had passed a special law giving them the

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power to take whatever land they needed, and
we didn't even get a chance to negotiate the

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price. We just mail the check in the mail.
So I doubt that they gave us 10% of the green

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park or whatever. We got nothing, and we're
probably haven't even got paid for the

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land yet. But they they had extreme powers.
>> So okay.

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>> Okay, we can verify, but I'm pretty sure
that's the right. >> Answer if you could verify.

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But thank you. I was just wondering. Thank
you so much. Good night.

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>> Thank you. >> So my. >> Question.

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>> Oh thank you. >> Victoria Golden. >> Good
evening, Mr. Mayor. And

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members of Council. This winter, the residents
of Greenwich Village presented a petition

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with you concerning the lack of winter overnight
street parking in our highly densified area.

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And my question is, what is the city developing
as a solution for the residents of our area?

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>> So it's been an item that's been on the
traffic committee for the last two meetings.
I

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believe we discussed it. We were looking at
all kinds of we've done all types of

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analysis in the area. We're looking at the
possibility of a of coming up with a special
app

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to have adaptive parking on street overnight
during the winter. I don't want to go into

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too much detail because it has to come through
here first and everybody has to know. So we're

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looking at it very seriously. Mr. Cieszynski
has brought it up quite a few times and has

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become a priority on our on our traffic committee,
and we're looking at every possible thing

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to try to find a solution. So you'll be you'll
hear something in the next month or so.

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>> Very good. So we, we, we will have a solution
for this coming winter.

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>> We'll have an answer will be a solution.
But you know. >> We need a solution because.

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>> It really affects us daily. It's, it's a
quality of life issue.

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>> We understand. So we're we're looking. >>
At it.

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>> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you.
>> Jennifer Olmstead.

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>> Sorry guys. This room is full here. So we
have to put chairs downstairs. So you might

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have to bring them up here. They'll have to
I think they have a mic downstairs. Right.

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They have a mic downstairs. So. >> You know.
>> She's coming.

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>> Oh thank you. >> I like the elevators working.
>> Hello. Good evening folks.

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Good evening. It's actually it's it's rather
premature. It's rather premature to be up

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here because I was here to be available to
ask questions following our evaluation. So
I

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don't know. Do I wait for later to start asking
these questions. >> Right now.

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>> You can ask it now. >> Go ahead. I have
I have no questions at this point because

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I don't know what your outcome is, what your
evaluation is going to be or your.

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>> Approval because you have you get to ask
a question before we vote on it. Anyway,

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you get on the item right now, is it on there.
>> Just for minor variation.

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And her question pertained to Pape. >> It's
it's straight up. So I,

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I really don't know what question I can ask.
Now this is the problem. Is there anything

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that. >> What would you what was your your
question? What were you

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intending to ask? What was the question you
wanted to ask? >> The question would be just

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about the approval. That was all. >> And you.

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>> Have the conditions of approval. >> Are.
Exactly refused yet, so

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you can't ask a question. >> Exactly. >> There
you go.

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>> So now. >> Return to your seat. >> Enjoy
the popcorn. Can I ask

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later? >> No, there'll be no question. You'll
just hear the answer.

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>> Okay. I'm sorry. I'm new at space, so. >>
Yeah. Well, you know.

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>> I right now I have no concerns. >> You want
to know the answer?

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>> I want to know the outcome. But I also want
to understand. >> But all I can say to you,

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miss, is the the space is for an extension
and renovation. >> Yes it is.

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>> Okay. Are you the owner? >> I am the you
already know the.

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>> I know, yeah. >> You just want the answer.
>> I just would like the answer

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and and to understand. >> You have to wait
until the Council vote.

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>> We have to vote on it. We haven't voted
on it yet. >> But just. Thank you. Thank

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you. Okay. >> Excuse excuse me, Mr. Mayor,
but just to clarify, aren't

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isn't that one of the items like at article
17, where residents can speak.

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>> Minor variation? Mr. Socinski, it's not
a minor variation.

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>> It's okay. Next. >> Thank you, Amanda. Francis.
>> Good evening. Good evening.

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My question today is related to the property
at 106 Lakeshore, but can be extended to all

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houses that fall under the inventory of heritage
homes in Pointe Claire. My question is

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whether or not the City of Montreal is involved
in the approval process for the

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demolition plans, or the replacement plans.
>> Only if it was built before

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1940. Right. >> So in this case, the house
in question was built in the

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year 1900. So it is included in your inventory
of houses. So the city of Montreal would be

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involved. >> Montreal Montreal is not involved.

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>> Quebec, Quebec. Quebec is. >> Involved but
not Montreal. >> So it's the province of

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Quebec. >> Yeah, but Minister Quebec but not
Montreal city.

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>> Okay. In that case, when does that approval
process happen? In regards or in order

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of Pointe Claire's approval. >> Process, they
have 90 days. >> After Pointe Claire is

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approved. >> Yes, exactly. >> Okay. So it's
the demolition

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and the. >> And then we send the the decision
to Minister for

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culture. And they have 90 days to come back.
>> And that's for the

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replacement plan as well. Or just the demolition.
Both for both.

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>> The demolition. Yeah. But for us, it's probably
both. But for the demolition.

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>> Okay. Understood. And just to clarify, the
replacement plan has not yet been approved.

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Seen as the exemptions are up for discussion
today. >> It hasn't been approved or

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refused. It's up for discussion. >> Okay. >>
Perfect. Right.

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>> Not yet. Yes. >> All right. Thank you. >>
Olivier.

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>> Okay. >> Good evening everyone. My question
is concerning the

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underground garbage bins that are on Dufresne
and on Mason. If there are any plans to

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improve the situation or to replace the situation,
because I live directly in front of it.

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And it's been like, not to be melodramatic,
but living like in City Dump, it's really,

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really bad. And I was wondering if, if you
guys are aware of how bad the situation is
as far

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as overflow and, you know, abuse of it, and
you know, how people are treating it and just

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generally what your situation is. >> All I
can tell you is I know

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that about 4 or 5 years ago, we had situations
there and we, we, I thought we had corrected
them.

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And I was there the other day for an event,
and I was actually quite impressed how

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clean it was. Maybe I was just lucky it was
that day. But if you're telling us there's
a

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problem, we're going to send people buying
on a regular basis and we'll let us analyze

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and we'll we'll see what we can do. >> Okay?
Because I'm always on

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the phone with public works. And the situation
is, is absolutely terrible.

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>> People are putting stuff beside the bin.
They're putting it around the bin or they're

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constant. >> I'm constantly picking up people's
garbage. I'm

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constantly because I'm literally the house
right in front. I'm constantly

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destroying boxes, picking up people's garbage
on the phone. With public works, there are

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it's just it's it's wretched. >> It's completely
wretched. Can we get your information?

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Yes. Take his name. We'll get back to you.
Because we did have a solution a few years

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back. We'll take a look at it again. Okay.
I'm sorry. I didn't know that. This is the

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first I've heard of it recently, so we'll.
I'll talk to Mr. Gerardo, see what we can do.

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>> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good night.

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>> Debbie. >> Good evening. >> Good evening.

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>> Are we going to learn and to listen for
the last 12 years, when we're building all
the

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high rise buildings on Greenland and wetland,
and now we're paying the price as a

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00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:06,060
citizen resident of Pointe-Claire for all the
flood, for any rain it's going to be,

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that is the normal. It's not the extra. So
are you going to stop building all this high

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rise building and hotel or whatever until to
fix the sewer system, the drainage system,

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the road when it's all cracked and hold. So
when you go into to listen to us as, as a

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00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:37,060
citizen resident for 40, 50 years here, we're
paying the price because you're paying 50%

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from the from the damage. That's not enough.
So please, when are you going to stop

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building all that and to care about the infrastructure
for the city. I asked this question

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since four years and never happened. When exactly?
Please. >> I'm going to answer you

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because I've heard the same question many times,
sir. And when you talk about that, we've

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dug up green space to build on. I'd like you
to identify what green space we've actually
dug

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up to build on, because what you're referring
to is the buildings on Boulevard, right?

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>> Yes. >> All so. >> Boulevard and the wetland

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also. >> But let me just finish the boulevard,
which was zoned

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industrial before that part of Hymans Boulevard
going back to 2008, 2011, when they came up

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with a new urban plan and they had to the municipalities
had to identify areas for high

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density residential. They identified that area.
They got rid of the one story industrial

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buildings with large asphalt parking lots.
And they put. Over the years, once the REM

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got announced condo project, which had already
been zoned for those condo projects or

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00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:48,020
apartment buildings or high rise, whatever
you want to call them, had to meet the new
norms

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of water migration in 2018 2020. So the old
industrial buildings with the flat roofs and
the big

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parking lots, all the water went into sewer
system. Now, when those buildings were built,

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all the water off of a flat roof, which are
big, flat roofs, have to go into a pipe, into

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the retention tank does not go into our sewer
system right away. All that parking lot that

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was asphalt is now 65% green space, which is
grass. And there's trees and there's

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gardens. So there's if you honestly look at
Google Maps and you look at before and

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after, there has been a huge improvement of
green space on Hymas Boulevard, and the water

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retention is a thousand times better than what
it was. So it's not the new buildings are

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the problem. It's the old buildings that are
the problem. It's the large parking lots.

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It's the large those, those. We have to try
to find solutions for now. And we're going
to be

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looking at that. So yeah, that's the answer.
So we're doing what we can do. But we

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have to we have to be honest with each other.
And those actually added to helping.

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00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:00,040
>> Yeah. But the waste water for 5000 apartments,
where it goes, it goes to the drain.

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That's why we all, we have our backup. But
but also with a soccer field there and with
too

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many green spots there, and they built on it.
I lived there since 33 years. I know

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everything in the Pointe-Claire. I'm asking
just we have to pay attention and we have to
learn

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00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:21,040
from our mistakes and we do better decision
to stop until they fix the infrastructure.

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That's all what I'm asking. I'm not arguing
with you. I'm not. >> I'm just I.

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>> Comment we're all paying the price for that.
>> Perfect. So we are

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absolutely. Since the month of November, since
this council got elected. And everybody here

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will tell you we have made water migration
a priority, flooding a priority. We are

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working on it. We have we and I have to tell
you, I'm so proud of our services, the work
that

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they have done to analyze the piping system,
to try to find solutions and try to identify

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areas. So we had five areas up until June 20th,
the last rainfall that we just had, we

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had five areas that were priorities. And now
that's changed because all new stuff

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came out of this last storm. So we're learning
too, but we're adapting and we're working hard

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00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,000
at it. Okay. And we're putting the money where
it has to go. We're not. If you look at our

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PTI and we've, we've cut a lot of other projects
all going into infrastructure and water

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00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,000
retention. Now that's where our money is going
to. And tonight we're adopting a plan to help

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citizens financially that comes out of all
that money too. So we are doing everything
we can.

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We had 152mm of rain. It's not an excuse. It's
a lot of rain. We learned a lot. The lady was

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talking about bark chips and this and that
blocking sewer that we just learned that we

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learned everybody who gives us information
about something, we're learning, and we're

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00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,000
trying to analyze and see what we can do better.
So we are taking it very, very serious.

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And I'm very confident to say that. >> Good.
Thank you. I

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understand it's good, but we have I'm just
mentioning to just highlight and we have to

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00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:56,000
work harder. My second question, please, is
the renovation for Aqua the poor Aqua Park.
Yeah.

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The the gym, what they call the wet room is
so old and like, you know, no ventilation in
it.

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00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:10,060
And people, they work there. They spend every,
every shift, five hours as when we spend 8

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00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:17,060
or 6 or six hours a week there and it's no
room to walk around it, are they are serious
plans

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00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:22,060
to renovate the wet room? >> I don't know,
I don't I don't know the plans. I don't.

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00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:24,060
>> Remember because I ask everybody there.
They don't know.

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00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:29,060
>> Oh, I don't know. I know it's a big project.
It's a two year project. It's a is that

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00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:33,060
weight room? Part of. >> The weight room is
not part of the renovation project? No.

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00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:37,060
>> Okay. But I don't want it. But if you. >>
Find it is serious, really?

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>> Okay, we'll take a we'll take the note of
it. But the other option you have is you go

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00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:45,060
to our new building on on Brunswick, which
is like, you got everything.

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00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:50,060
>> I went there and it's so busy there because
that is close to us really. I live in

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Maywood and that is, you know, next door to
me. And also there's a lot of people there,

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00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:59,060
the senior, you know, and people also work
there. We have to take care of them. Okay.

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00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:03,020
>> We'll take I mean. >> The ventilation, it's
no ventilation at all. You know,

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00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:07,020
imagine when 20 people there and all sweating
how we smell that room.

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00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:11,020
>> May or may I comment? >> Go ahead. >> Mr.
Mr. Al-dabi. Yes. We've

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00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:15,020
known each other a long time. It's been four
years. We've been bringing up this question,

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00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:22,020
and I will respond again. You've been answered
numerous times and I respect you greatly.

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00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:28,020
But to blame them on development, whether you
have a park, an industrial building or

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00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:36,020
a high rise building, doesn't stop the rain
that falls from the sky. Okay, first. Secondly,

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00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:41,020
we have a two tier rain system and I've explained
this to you numerous times. The water, the

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00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:46,020
pee, the poop. We've never had issues with
our waste management system. Our problem

511
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:51,020
is simple when the rain falls from the sky,
it goes into our pluvial system and that's
what

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00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:57,020
gets overwhelmed. That is 90% of the cases
of homes in Pointe-Claire. Yes, there are

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00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:02,080
10% water flows into the waste management system,
and if you don't have a proper backflow

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:09,080
valve, you could have issues. And just to repeat
the mayor's point, every time we build,

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00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:15,080
every time, whether it be we tear down industrial
building for residential, commercial or

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00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:25,080
industrial, we are becoming more resilient.
Those parking lots, which were 70, 80% cement,

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00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:33,080
that rainwater fell directly into the pluvial
system. Adding to our problem, any new project

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00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,080
must adhere to the new bylaws, which Pointe-Claire,
by the way, has one of the strictest

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00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:43,080
standard in Montreal, if I'm not mistaken.
They have to create water retention basins

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00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:49,080
to limit a 30 millimeter runoff. We're at ten
millimeters every time we build, whether if
you

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,080
don't condos, you don't like them industrial,
commercial. Every time we build a new

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00:53:54,080 --> 00:54:00,040
development, we are becoming more resilient.
I hope I answer this question and.

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:08,040
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Sewer
System. Since 50 and 60, we didn't update it

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00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:15,040
when Pointe-Claire was a small town. Now it's
a big city with all this horizon, over 5000

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00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:21,040
units built just for the last ten years. Where
is this wastewater goes? Thank you for

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00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,040
your answer, and I hope really we face it seriously
so we don't have everybody to come

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:45,040
for every rain. We have a flood. Thank you.
>> Kevin Zhao.

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>> Are we into all the water issues now? >>
No, it's because it didn't

529
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,040
say water. >> Okay, good. Okay. No, I just
want to know when we get there.

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Let me know when we get to that point. Okay?
Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening everyone.

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First, I just simply introduce myself. My name
is Kevin Zhao and I'm a convenience store

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00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:15,000
owner. And my store located at 477 Amderma.
And my concern is related with the agenda for

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:36,000
today, 17 point I think three. Sorry, 17.4
to 17.1 okay. And I, I appeared here for the

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00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:43,000
previous council meeting for last year because
I believe this property was important to

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:55,000
our neighborhood. Okay. And I'm here again
today because my mind is not changed. Okay.
And

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00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:04,060
I respectfully ask the council will think seriously.
Consider a mixed use redevelopment with

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00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:12,060
commercial space on the ground floor and residential
units above. Okay. And this

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00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:19,060
convenience store and daycare on this site
has served local residents for many years.
As a

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00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:24,060
neighbor neighborhood grows, the service become
more valuable, so not less so. This

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00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:37,060
is my point. And also, Mr. Mayor, if you remember
last year, we do have a brief

541
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:45,060
conversation at that part and. We barely discussed
this possibility of the commercial

542
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:51,060
space at street level with residential above.
And I appreciate I appreciate for you

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00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:58,060
positive attitude with this, and I hope the
Council will continue to give this serious

544
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:05,020
consideration. Okay. I also brought the copy
for the last years, the presentation and the

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00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:13,020
residential residents partition. I'm not asking
anyone to revisit the past. I'm just

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00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:21,020
simply hope the voice of the local residents
continue to be considered. Okay. So here I

547
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:29,020
also just have my two questions. Okay. First,
has the city firmly evaluated a mixed use

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00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:36,020
opinion for this property instead of only for
residential redevelopment? Redevelopment?

549
00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:43,020
Okay, this is my first question. >> I would
have to say that when the the the owner of
the

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00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:49,020
property presented a project to the city and
the project is presented now as a townhouses.

551
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:55,020
And that was his choice. And the zoning, you
know, the, the, the mixed use was another

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00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:59,020
option. It was was not presented and the townhouses
were presented. And that's what

553
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:07,080
the city has dealt with. >> Yeah, I understand
because as the as the developer, they

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:13,080
can decide what they want to rebuild there.
But also I consider the city can think

555
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:19,080
about the voice from all the neighbors living
around there and to see the, the important

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00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:30,080
thing that all the convenient service can keep
stay in that local area. So this is my point.

557
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:38,080
>> Okay, >> Okay, so. >> 19 seconds. Go ahead.

558
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:44,080
>> Yeah. My second question is the same. So
I respectfully ask the council to consider
a

559
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:52,080
solution that supports both the housing and
the the daily needs of this community. This
is like

560
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,080
my wish. >> Thank you all. You'll see tonight
there's a project on

561
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,040
the table that we're going to discuss, which
are townhouses. So that's what we'll be

562
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,040
considering as that project is on the table
tonight. >> Okay. So it's been the

563
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,040
decision has been made or. >> Has not been
made. I see voted on, but the project has

564
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,040
been deposited. Will vote on it tonight. >>
Okay. All right. Thank you.

565
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:22,040
>> Ken Lyons. >> Mr. mayor, if I may, may I
go ahead? I just got a to

566
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:27,040
answer Mrs. Was question from the beginning.
I don't know if she's still here. I think

567
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:32,040
Jennifer back >> Downstairs. Well, if she can
hear me, essentially there will

568
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:39,040
be a fence around the. She's not there anymore.
She's downstairs. Okay. So there will

569
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:46,040
be a fence surrounding the retention basin
on terracotta. Thank you. You're welcome.

570
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,040
>> Okay. Next. >> So, Ken Lyons. Oh. He's coming.
No, no, he's not coming.

571
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,040
>> No. >> No no. Ken Lyon. >> Okay. No! Ken
Lyon, no.

572
00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:10,000
>> Ken Lyons. So Drew Matthews. >> Thank you.
>> Oh, sorry. Hans volstad. Oh,

573
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:17,000
you're Mr. Matthews. Yes. Okay, just go ahead.
That's fine. >> Thank you. Good evening, Mr.

574
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Mayor and council members. I'm here referring
to 17.15. A permit for 106 Bord du Lac. Our

575
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:36,000
property touches on this property. So our concern
is, will the council or the

576
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:43,000
planning department try to maintain the character
of the properties along the lakeshore?

577
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Because I'm looking at the the the the variances,
the, the they're asking for, to me, it

578
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:58,000
sounds like there's a lot of, a lot of changes
they want to make. And the last one of all,

579
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:05,060
a ten meter wide driveway really strikes me
as really excessive. I just want to know

580
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:09,060
if the Council planning Department will try
to maintain the character of properties

581
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:14,060
along the lakeshore. >> All I can tell you
is that the project has brought been

582
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:19,060
brought to us to look at it, to look at tonight,
to present to you tonight and decide if we'll

583
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:24,060
go with or not. But they're planning in the
Park Committee and the Council have looked
at

584
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:29,060
the project and all the different elements
of it, and we'll be making a decision on

585
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:41,060
it tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good night.
>> Okay. So if if I look over

586
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:51,060
all the papers, all the questions not we may
see. So now we would start, I'm

587
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:56,060
assuming, naming names that are. >> You want
to say something? Thank you for being patient.

588
01:01:56,060 --> 01:02:00,020
What we did tonight was we let everybody else
that didn't have a flooding issue get their

589
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:04,020
question asked so they could leave. And normally
we only hold our question period for 90

590
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:09,020
minutes. We want to give you all a chance to
be heard. And we want to be you know, we

591
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:14,020
don't want to limit to only three things on
the same topic and so on and so forth. So I

592
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:18,020
just want to make a couple of statements, and
maybe we'll help answer some of your

593
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:22,020
questions while you're here. I mean, I can
honestly tell you that every one of us are
here,

594
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:27,020
are here, and we understand your concerns and
we have all the answers. No, we don't, but

595
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:31,020
I can tell you that we are working really,
really hard. And not only us, we're hiring

596
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:34,020
experts, our teams, we're working with Montreal,
we're working with other

597
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:40,020
municipalities to see what we can do. It's
a new reality, and yes, we can. You can blame
the

598
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:45,020
city. Their sewers didn't work, and so on and
so forth. But the way I look at it is that
we

599
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:50,020
have to work on this all together. One of the
tools that we'll be giving you tonight is

600
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:56,020
will be adopting a financial aid program, which
will help you make your house more water

601
01:02:56,020 --> 01:03:01,080
resilient. If it's a sump pump, if it's a backflow
valve, it's, you know, some people can't

602
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:06,080
afford the 1200 bucks for backflow valve. So
this will give you up to $5,000 to help

603
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:11,080
you make your house more resilient. And together,
we'll do what we can do on our side.

604
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,080
You guys have to do what you can do on your
side and you know it won't. It won't happen

605
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,080
overnight. And we'll have another rainstorm
before everybody makes their house

606
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:25,080
better. But we're there. We're here to try
to help you and work together to face the new

607
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,080
realities. And they are there. And they're
not just baby reality. These are huge

608
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:34,080
problems that just happen. The other night
when we had 152mm of rain. No, we we, we were

609
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,080
following. We have a direct link with the weather
station. They're calling us, giving us

610
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,080
warnings, and they're saying 6 to 9mm, 6 to
9mm, 6 to 9mm. One cloud formed over the highway.

611
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:51,080
And we end up with 110, 152 to 172mm of rain.
The good thing is that we had started on the

612
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,080
Thursday before. Believe it or not, we have
protocols to do certain procedures around the

613
01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:01,040
city to get ready because we're expecting 25
to 30 or 40mm of rain Thursday, Friday. And
we

614
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:06,040
had already started that those procedures.
So I mean, yeah, we got hit. We got hit just
as

615
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,040
hard as you guys with city buildings flooded
everywhere else. But we were doing

616
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,040
everything we could. And is there more we can
do? Yes. Is there more that each homeowner

617
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:19,040
can do? Yes. Can we help you? And and we'll
be hiring a company that you'll be able to

618
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,040
use to help you evaluate your house, to tell
you what you need to do to make your house

619
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:28,040
more resilient. And that's the only way we're
going to get through it. And we have made it

620
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,040
a priority in our budgets. And we've sat down.
We've had six meetings over for our budget

621
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:37,040
for this year and next year, moving forward
for next 2 or 3 years, all our investments
are

622
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,040
going to go into water migration and and infrastructure.
And, you know,

623
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,040
it's easy to say change all the pipes and increase
the size of the pipes. That's not the only

624
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,040
problem. And that's not the only solution.
There's others, you know, we're building a

625
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,040
sponge park at, at on Belmont near Chaddlewood.
That's going to alleviate a lot of the water

626
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,040
coming out of terracotta that was flooding
all that area. We built that berm that was
part

627
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:01,000
of our our new program this year to build up
berm along terracotta. You heard the lady

628
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,000
say probably 30, 40 homes that burned and they
finish on Friday. It saved them. So we

629
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,000
are doing what we can do, and we are going
to keep doing what we can do. And we're we
learn

630
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,000
new information. We're going to hear new stuff
tonight, which will help us evaluate and see

631
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,000
what we can do. Sometimes it's an easy fix,
sometimes it's much more complex. And the ones

632
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,000
that are complex, just, for instance, just
changing the size of a pipe that we know

633
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000
we'd like to change in one area. If we increase
the size of the pipe, it will alleviate

634
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,000
pressure over there and won't cause any problem.
It's almost a two year process to get the

635
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,000
permit from the city of Montreal, to just change
the size of the pipe, because they

636
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,000
have to do their studies, they have to make
sure that we're not going to affect another.
So

637
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:46,000
it's a joint venture, but all I can tell you
is you can be confident that this council is.

638
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,000
We're doing everything we can and and we'll
keep you up to date. We've held three meetings.

639
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
We're giving information sessions that we've
been trying to be as transparent and honest

640
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,000
and let's, you know, work together to alleviate
all the issues that we're having. So on

641
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,060
that note, the microphone will be open and
we'll take your questions, we'll hear your

642
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:05,060
concerns, and we'll hopefully we we can find
some things out and learn some things. And
we

643
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:11,060
can you can help us and we can help you. Thank
you. >> Oh.

644
01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:16,060
>> No, no, no, you have your name on the list.
Okay. When your name is called, you'll

645
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:23,060
come up. Thank you. No, no, I'm I'm open to
the list. Sorry, I'm opening the mic to the
list.

646
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:29,060
We'll follow the list. >> Thank you, madam,
for the correct pronunciation of my

647
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:37,060
name. >> Thank you. >> Hello, everybody. I'm
going

648
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:41,060
to do three things today and none of them are
questions. I'm going to make an impact

649
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:47,060
statement. I'm going to list ten questions
related to the engineering firm. I did forward

650
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:53,060
my email to you if you didn't get it. Mike
has it. And and mayor at pointe-claire dot
CA

651
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:57,060
didn't work, by the way. >> Okay. >> So I'll
start with that. And

652
01:06:57,060 --> 01:07:02,020
then finally, I'm a solutions guy. I'm a fixer.
That's what I did all my career. I worked for

653
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:07,020
Abbott Labs. I used to fix problems. So I'd
like to also offer my services as a fixer.

654
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:14,020
That's too much time. So my this is about the
Del Mar deluge. So this is a resident

655
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:18,020
impact statement. So good evening, Mr. Mayor
and members of Council. Tonight I'd like to

656
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:23,020
speak about what I have come to call the Del
Mar deluge. I use that name because I believe
the

657
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:27,020
flooding affecting our neighborhood. District
eight, district seven deserves to be

658
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:31,020
recognized as more than isolated incidents.
It has become a pattern that residents

659
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:36,020
are living through, and it deserves to be understood.
The Del Mar Watershed

660
01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:39,020
Infrastructure Project begins where the water
starts its journey towards Lake Saint

661
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:44,020
Louis. In my opinion, the upstream capacity
was increased before the downstream

662
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:49,020
infrastructure was improved. If that is true,
then the project began at the wrong end. Before

663
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:55,020
the Del Mar watershed project flooding was
simply not part of our lives. It was not a
concern

664
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:59,020
for me. More importantly, it was not a concern
for the residents I've spoken with over

665
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:04,080
the past year. I've gone door to door and listened.
One family told me they lived in

666
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,080
their home for 20 years without basement flooding
until recently. Another family 30

667
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:13,080
years. Another told me 40 years. Just this
past week, I met a lady named Susan who told
me

668
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:19,080
that her family has owned a home for 70 years
and until recently, they have never

669
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:24,080
experienced basement flooding. Every one of
those conversations ended with the

670
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:30,080
same question why is this happening now? It
never happened before. I also spoke

671
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,080
with the husband of a woman who works at a
local restaurant. He told me they have made
three

672
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,080
insurance claims three times. Their basement
has been flooded and they needed to be repaired

673
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:44,080
three times. It has been flooded in three years.
When he contacted the city, he was told

674
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,080
the flooding was caused by an amount of rainfall
and it was an act of nature. The residents

675
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,080
hear that explanation. They also remember decades
of major storms without flooding. Heavy

676
01:08:53,080 --> 01:09:00,040
rain is not new. Major storms are not new.
The what is new is hearing the same words repeated

677
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:06,040
through out our community. We never flooded
until recently. During the most recent flood,
I

678
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,040
personally witnessed torrents of water beginning
at the intersection of Del Mar and De

679
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,040
Cano. I watched that water travel down Del
Mar. Continue on to Saint Louis, through

680
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,040
Broadview, Champlain towards Donegani. After
the flood, I drove through the neighborhood.

681
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:24,040
I did not need an engineering drawing to see
the flood map. The flood map was visible in

682
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,040
the piles of ruined belongings placed on the
curb outside people's homes. It all points

683
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,040
directly to the Del Mar infrastructure improvements
during the same storm. Flooding

684
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:38,040
also affected highway 40, resulting in the
closure of the eastbound Sources Boulevard

685
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:44,040
exit. To me, those observations raise an important
question could these events be connected

686
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:49,040
after the flood, the optics weren't good. In
fact, they were missing. I apologize, I

687
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,040
didn't. >> Know, I just I just want to ask
you to be respectful of the

688
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:58,040
time because everybody is going to get the
same amount of time. We want to give as many
people

689
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,000
as much time, chance. >> When my impact statement
is over, I will. I will do that.

690
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,000
Thank you for freezing seconds. >> Let's go.
>> So our community is not

691
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,000
asking for sympathy. Our community is asking
for answers. Thank you.

692
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:20,000
>> Thank you. Perfect. And you're going to
send us those ten questions, right? Thank you.

693
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,000
I met with this gentleman just before the meeting
tonight, and he had some great information.

694
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,000
And I've asked I've asked to sit down with
you and with Mr. Girouard so we can understand

695
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,000
what you're telling. Exactly what you just
told us. We'd like to understand what you're

696
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,000
telling us, and we can probably learn from
it. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

697
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:58,000
>> Stephanie. Lorraine. >> Danny. Expertise.
My name is Stephanie. Lorraine, I am a I

698
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:03,060
am a member of the board of directors for prima
three. Prima three co property, which

699
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:08,060
represents 28 townhouse units at the end of
Avenue Mason, which runs parallel to Jaime's

700
01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:14,060
Boulevard. I'm joined this evening by several
of my neighbors if they want to wave.

701
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:18,060
And I wanted to just provide some context about
the situation that we have been

702
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:24,060
experiencing since 2022. So for context, our
townhomes were delivered less than five years

703
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:28,060
ago, and we've continually dealt with poor
water drainage from our property during any

704
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:33,060
heavy rainfall. There are actually nine recorded
incidents that I've brought

705
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:39,060
with me today in the last four years, where
residents have had to spend hours manually
pumping

706
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:45,060
water from their garages and their common areas
to avoid flooding in their basements.

707
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:49,060
And then we've had three instances in the last
four years where, unfortunately, our

708
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:55,060
efforts were not able to prevent this from
happening, and we've had to rebuild

709
01:11:55,060 --> 01:12:01,020
garages and basements from the ground up. And
our community is only sorry. It's been a really

710
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:10,020
tough time, but our community is only five
years old. Given the frequency and severity
of

711
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:17,020
these events, we would like to ask the city
and the council what steps we can take together

712
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:23,020
with the engineering department and your council,
to have an assessment of the drainage

713
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:28,020
infrastructure between our property and the
municipal stormwater systems to determine

714
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:35,020
the cause of these reoccurring floods. Yeah.
So we're looking for guidance today on what
next

715
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:40,020
steps we can take to try to protect the safety
of our community. We've spent many

716
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:48,020
hours waiting in hazardous water with electrical
issues, and we're we're just trying to

717
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:50,020
protect the safety of our community and look
for your guidance.

718
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:55,020
>> We have some pictures here. If you want
to take a. >> Look, just give the pictures

719
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:59,020
to the police. >> So and I apologize for I
didn't think I was going to be

720
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:02,080
emotional. >> You're allowed to be. >> You're
allowed to be

721
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,080
emotional. It's not it's not a fun time. And
we've all had. Don't worry about that. Listen,

722
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:11,080
I Andrews brought it up quite often. It's been
an ongoing issue in that project for a

723
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:21,080
long time. I was here in 17 to 21 when some
issues started. We had we had some issues with
the

724
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:26,080
whole project. Overall, I don't want to get
into details. I thought some of it had been

725
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:32,080
resolved, but obviously with the flooding that
just happened last week, I know that we sent

726
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,080
some people over there to ditch seem to be
flowing, but it wasn't probably flowing enough

727
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:41,080
because the amount of water and so on and so
forth. So I'm going to meet with the director

728
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,080
general. We got your contact information. And
again, maybe it's a situation where we have

729
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:50,080
to look at if our biggest problem in there
is not only it's a lot of it is on private

730
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,080
property and you guys have an association and
so on and so forth. So we have to look at

731
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,080
the legalities. We have to look all around
that. And what's our responsibility? What's
your

732
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,040
responsibility? There's lots to look at, but
I can tell you that we will we'll we'll we'll

733
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,040
look at it. We're looking at them all. And
you get on the list and we'll reach out to
you

734
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:13,040
and we'll try to understand your particular
problem and take it from there.

735
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,040
>> Thank you. We we appreciate your investment
in time in the water issues holistically

736
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:23,040
across point, Claire. And I think know that
our co-ownership. We are 28 owners,

737
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:28,040
owners and occupants who love the city of Pointe
Claire. I grew up here for the first 20

738
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:34,040
years of my life and moved back to raise my
family. And so just know that you have partners
in

739
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:39,040
collaboration with us to find that solution.
We're ready to do our part and have been

740
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:44,040
consistently spending dollars on evac and maintaining
the ditch and trying to do our part.

741
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:49,040
So please just know that we can be partners
in this together. >> But any information that
you

742
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,040
have that could help us, like you say, you
had Sandy back coming, you've cleaned the

743
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,040
ditch. All this kind of stuff would be great
information for us that we could work with
that

744
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,000
would help us understand, okay, you're cleaning.
Let's sit down, let's have a conversation and

745
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:06,000
get all that information together and we'll
see. No promises. But we, we'll, we'll,

746
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,000
we'll work with you if we can. >> And who should
we share? I know we've reached out a couple

747
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,000
of times because we've prepared a report of
all the incidences and all of our efforts today.

748
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,000
What is the most appropriate place to send
that information to ensure that it reaches
you?

749
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,000
>> Well, you can send it right to my office
if you want to. John dot belvedere at

750
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,000
pointe-claire dot CA. There's no problem. >>
Okay. We'll reshare. Thank

751
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000
you so much. >> For your time on the internet.
Eric has something.

752
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:34,000
>> To say. May I ask a question? Just curious.
28 homes, the way they're structured, do they

753
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:38,000
fall? Currently, under our proposed bylaw that
we're. >> Well, that's what.

754
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,000
>> That's what's you know what I mean? That's
an interesting question to.

755
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,000
>> Yeah, that's what we have to. >> Look at.
Yeah, exactly. >> You ask that question. We're

756
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:58,000
going to look at it. Thank you. >> Jean Belanger.
>> Good evening, Mr. Mayor. And

757
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:05,060
council members. I was first time I'm ever
attending a council meeting. I am I am a 42

758
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:11,060
year resident on Winthrop. And I know you are
well aware of what happened on Winthrop. This

759
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:18,060
is the first time that we've ever been flooded
in, in the 42 years, two times in a row,

760
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:26,060
within two years. So. Susan Weaver actually
asked the question that one of the

761
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:32,060
questions I had concerning the Sinovac, I'm
a little unclear. So you mentioned that

762
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:35,060
Pointe-Claire is getting their own machine
to do this type of cleanup.

763
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:40,060
>> Over the past, we have we have a piece of
equipment that can do some of the work, but

764
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:44,060
we've been using standing back for many years
to do our our regular maintenance, let's call

765
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:47,060
it. Okay. >> And so that has been in place
in the past.

766
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:51,060
>> That's been in the, in, in place for a while
now. Yes. >> Yeah.

767
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:57,060
>> And. And now what we've done is we've, we're
ordering our own vehicle just so we have it

768
01:16:57,060 --> 01:17:02,020
all the time and we can be quicker cleaning
some spots when there is an issue, like

769
01:17:02,020 --> 01:17:07,020
when Del Mar flooded, had we had our own truck,
maybe we could have gone. And just this

770
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:12,020
just maybe it's just I don't know if it would
work, but, you know, we go and clean off those

771
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:16,020
sewers with our own truck instead of having
a man in there with a shovel. Whatever

772
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:21,020
is going to make it better, we think it will.
So these are all things we're looking at trying

773
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:24,020
to do. >> Okay, well, I'm grateful that it's
being looked at and

774
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:30,020
I'm sure you are. There does seem to clearly
be a problem suddenly in in the area. Yeah.

775
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:35,020
The other thing that I wanted to bring up was
the Saint Louis. A lot of changes were done
to

776
01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:40,020
that school. And so a lot of the grass area
was changed. And it's now all wood chips, which

777
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:49,020
I think are contributing to perhaps the flow.
Good as as well as they have a, a bus lane

778
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:54,020
now that goes around there, which is asphalt,
which has a slight slope towards Winthrop

779
01:17:54,020 --> 01:18:04,080
as well. So that might not be helping our situation
either. It's, it's good to know that

780
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,080
you're, you're doing what you can and that
you are aware of the problem. But it's a little

781
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:14,080
frightening to think that this like everyone's
saying it might happen again. I, as a homeowner,

782
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:19,080
I am putting in place the, the things that
I can backflow valves and sub pumps and, and

783
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:24,080
so on. >> And understand the, the flood anxiety,
if you want to

784
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,080
call that. Yeah. Because even though you might
get hit this time, you might get hit next

785
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:33,080
time. And, you know, we don't know what Mother
Nature has to offer anymore. And they tell
us

786
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,080
one thing. We get something completely different.
So we don't, I mean, I don't again,

787
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,080
we don't have a solution for that. >> No.

788
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,080
>> But the best we can do is at some point,
if we've done everything we can, the

789
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,080
homeowner, like if you've done everything you
can, I've done everything in my house. And
at

790
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:52,080
some point you have to say, okay, I've done
what I can and let the, you know, hopefully
it

791
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,080
all works out and hopefully we won't have to
test them. >> Right? Well, I'm not an

792
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,040
engineer. I don't understand how it works.
And I know you have an engineering department.

793
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:05,040
It just is is helpful for us to know that you
are. You do acknowledge the problem in the

794
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,040
area and that there's something that could
be done. And on a positive note, I really wanted

795
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,040
to say that I was very impressed with the quick
mobilization that you put into

796
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,040
place of taking all the debris off everyone's
property in a very short amount of time.

797
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,040
>> Well. >> That help with anxiety too. >>
And it did.

798
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:25,040
>> And, you know, again, I'm going to compliment
the the public works guys. And even

799
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,040
before we got that, that flooding that day
on that Thursday, I mentioned earlier,

800
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,040
we had already started putting in procedures
into place just in case because we were

801
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,040
expecting not that much. We were expecting
something earlier on the Friday. And it

802
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,040
goes to show you that we've, we've, we've changed
our whole operating procedures. We're

803
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,040
following the weather, and we're giving ourselves
time now to do certain things that

804
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:50,040
hopefully will help that, you know, if we do
get the big rains that we're well, well

805
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:56,040
prepared. And yeah, it's it's a joint effort,
right. And we're going to keep on trying to
look

806
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,000
at solutions and procedures to try to alleviate
as much of as we can.

807
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,000
>> Okay. Well, thank you very much. >> Thank
you. You have to

808
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,000
compliment your your counselor, Eric Storch,
because he was phenomenal.

809
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,000
>> He was. >> Absolutely he's phenomenal. >>
He got his your district got

810
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,000
hit really, really bad. I was driving around
and it was phenomenal. Yeah.

811
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:19,000
>> We we know that we have a very good direct
line and. >> Yes, exactly.

812
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,000
>> Sympathetic and helpful. >> Thank you. I
love the walking ladies, the lady

813
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:37,000
walkers every day. They're on the little corner.
Right. >> Jerry?

814
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:44,000
>> Good evening Melissa. Good evening. My first
time. But we'll try it again. It's

815
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:51,000
regarding engineering. What's the third year
in a row now that I get flooded? But it's

816
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:57,000
also three neighbors around that. Probably
because of my driveway and the water on our

817
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:04,060
street. Parkland 49, parkland. It flows down
where the same level of Saint Louis and the

818
01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:11,060
hill comes after our house. So everything comes
to my house and my neighbor, our driveway

819
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:18,060
are sloping towards the backyard. So our four
neighbors are getting flooded. Last year

820
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:25,060
after the flood, I called engineers to come
and check it out. So I informed them, we

821
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:33,060
have pipes in the back of our property, a big
manhole that's empty and it house beautiful

822
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:41,060
raccoon. So why not use for all that water?
It took a while. Three phone calls and a

823
01:21:41,060 --> 01:21:46,060
gentleman working for the engineer Sean showed
up. Very nice guy. I even helped him

824
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:52,060
opening some of the manhole cover that they
were going to bring cameras, inspection and

825
01:21:52,060 --> 01:22:00,020
so on to check it out. And I said, is there
a way to find out what happened with this?

826
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:06,020
Yes. If there's a problem, we'll let you know.
Never heard anything, but I still got

827
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:13,020
flooded this year. Not in the house though,
in the garage and all the properties. So the

828
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:21,020
flood is elsewhere. I know it's when we bought
a house. Snow is new. Buy a shovel snow blower.

829
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:28,020
Now for the spring we have to buy sump pump
water barriers. So it's becoming crazy. I'm

830
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:34,020
looking at a barrier to stop the water from
the street, to come onto my land, property
and

831
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:40,020
my neighbor so it doesn't flood the other neighbor.
We're talking six $7,000. It's crazy

832
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:47,020
because the street is like this towards my
place. So my question is, is it possible to

833
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:53,020
get answers from the engineering to find out
what the problem, what the solution?

834
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:59,020
Maybe eventually I know it's not going to get
done tomorrow. Everybody had the same problem.

835
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:04,080
We don't expect stuff to change overnight,
but we would like to have answers that, yes,
it'll

836
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:09,080
take a year. Meanwhile, we'll look at this.
We'll look at that. It the politics is

837
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:14,080
politics. We need more than politics. We need
straight answers.

838
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:19,080
>> I think it's simple. Your address. You got
the gentleman's address, Mr. Girard,

839
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,080
and we're making a list. And we're looking
at all these situations. Everything we hear

840
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,080
tonight, we're going to address. Okay, we're
going to look at it. We're going to give it

841
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:32,080
engineering. We're going to we're going to
address them all. And that's why we put out
a

842
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,080
survey survey last week or two weeks ago asking
people tell us where the problems are, because,

843
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,080
I mean, we thought we had them all up until
last week when we got that rain. We all new
ones

844
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,080
came up. So yes, we'll address it. And Mr.
Girard will be in charge of making sure that.
And

845
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:51,080
he is not not that he's in charge. He is in
charge. And he will make sure that it's looked

846
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,080
at and he'll get an answer. >> Thank you. All
right. Miss you Kelly.

847
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,080
>> Nancy. >> You don't want her in the same
room as us right now.

848
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:12,040
>> Nancy McDonald. >> Good evening, mayor.
>> Members of Council. Nancy

849
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:19,040
McDonald, district eight. My family has lived
in Pointe Claire for 24 years. The last

850
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:27,040
three have been unpleasant. We've flooded three
times. Water up to here, dirty, ugly

851
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:32,040
sewage water up to here. Our home is a split
level, so we have a basement and we have

852
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:36,040
upstairs. We lost everything in the basement.
We lost my daughter's room. We lost my

853
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:42,040
husband's guitar studio. We lost everything
in our garage, our bathroom and our family

854
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:53,040
room twice. We are probably $120,000 out of
pocket leading into today. I was coming here

855
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:58,040
today to ask you what you were going to do
for your citizens. And I saw that you're doing

856
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:11,000
something, but it's not enough. It's not enough.
I am between we are between the Delmar

857
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Deluge and whatever is happening on Winthrop,
we're right in the middle. If you

858
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:21,000
look at Compton Crescent, we are 25 Compton
Crescent. We have a sloping driveway the

859
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,000
other side of our crescent. I don't think any
house has got anything on our side because
it

860
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:31,000
comes like this. And I unfortunately bought
a house with a sloping driveway. I

861
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,000
shouldn't have done that, but 24 years ago,
when we're a young family with young

862
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,000
children, we were enthralled of raising our
children in Pointe Claire and enthralled with

863
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:47,000
owning that house. I can't afford to live there
anymore, I can't. So basically, our family

864
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:53,000
is living in a five and a half upper because
we can't do the basement. The $5,000 that

865
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:58,000
you're offering is not going to help us. We
have a sloping driveway, so we have to put
in

866
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,060
a sump pump that costs money. The sloping driveway,
like the gentleman said before, we have

867
01:26:02,060 --> 01:26:08,060
to put a barrier that's going to cost us upwards
of $25,000. We have to do because of the

868
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:14,060
house that we chose in Pointe Claire, something
needs to be done because I can't sell it.

869
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:26,060
Nobody's going to buy it. What am I going to
do? What are we going to do?

870
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:31,060
>> I don't I mean, I don't have all the answers
for you. I don't have them. I feel very,

871
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:37,060
very bad for you. You're killing me. But you
know, the $5,000, maybe it's not enough,

872
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:41,060
but we got 12,000 homes. We got many, many
residents that we have to deal with. It's a

873
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:45,060
beginning. And we're and we're trying to find
solutions to help everybody doing what we

874
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:51,060
can do on our side, I mean, our infrastructure
and then helping the people do what you can
do

875
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:56,060
on your side. It will never be enough. I'm
sorry. And we just as a city, we can't afford
to

876
01:26:56,060 --> 01:26:59,060
just have open coffee. >> Can I make a suggestion?
>> Absolutely.

877
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:03,020
>> You said you're bringing in a consulting
team to work with us. Can that consulting team

878
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:08,020
not evaluate the homes and distribute the money
accordingly? Instead of just

879
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:15,020
throwing $5,000 at everybody? Because what
if one and I'm not asking to rebuild my own
home,

880
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:22,020
I'm asking to make it safe to live in. That's
all I want. But $5,000 isn't going to cut it.

881
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:26,020
Maybe the person up the street is going to
be okay with something that's $2,500 based

882
01:27:26,020 --> 01:27:31,020
on that evaluation, and maybe we need ten.
And then all your residents have what they
have

883
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:35,020
or have what they need to be able to continue
to live in Pointe Claire, if you're

884
01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:40,020
bringing in that consulting company, why can't
they do that? I'm not asking for an answer

885
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:45,020
today or tomorrow, but if that consulting company
can come in and do the proper evaluation

886
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:49,020
that we need to be able to continue to live
in Pointe Claire, that seems like it

887
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:52,020
would make more sense instead of just throwing
money to the. >> Wind.

888
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:55,020
>> I did that consulting company. You can hire
that consulting company. They'll

889
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:59,020
come and do your house. We'll pay for that
consulting company to come in and evaluate
your

890
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:04,080
house. They won't tell you who to use, but
they'll tell you what you can do and give you
a

891
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:09,080
plan, what you can do to make your house more
water resilient. That's the whole purpose of
it.

892
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,080
These are experts. These are people that go
around. That's what they'll do. That's part
of

893
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,080
the plan. That's part of our program. That's
one of the services.

894
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,080
>> But that's what I'm saying. Somebody up
the street is going to need $2,000 of your
city

895
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:25,080
money. I might need eight. >> I you know what?
Right now, I mean, right now I can't make

896
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,080
any decisions except tonight we're going to
pass what we got. So we get the ball rolling
for

897
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,080
tomorrow, which is $5,000. And maybe we'll
be a program that will evolve down the road.
I

898
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:38,080
don't know, but let's I mean, I know, I know.
>> It won't. Help you. It won't

899
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:42,080
help you in your. >> Situation. But let's get
the ball rolling tomorrow. The

900
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:47,080
money will be available for a lot of people
will help them a lot. Maybe we have to up the

901
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,080
plan or change something. Who knows? We might
have to. But right now, tonight, we can't.

902
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:55,080
Right now we're adopting that. But your comments
are been taken and noted, and it was

903
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,080
something that council is going to talk about
for sure. Thank you. Okay. But please like
use

904
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:15,040
that company please. >> Lori LaFleur. >> Good
evening. Hi, Mike, my

905
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:21,040
city councilor. I'm actually Mrs. McDonald's
neighbor on Compton Crescent as well. I've

906
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:26,040
been flooded three times. Unfortunately, I
haven't had it as bad as a lot of my neighbors,

907
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:35,040
including Nancy. I moved to Point Clair about
24 years ago to start a family, and right

908
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:43,040
now the 24 years were great and now I live
in fear. I have children, we have a life in
our

909
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:51,040
basement. I definitely need the contact number
to this company that you're providing because
I

910
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:56,040
can't live like this. We all have PTSD on our
street. Every time it rains, we're all like

911
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:03,000
nervous. And the anxiety. It's no quality of
life. I came to Pointe Claire for quality of

912
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:09,000
life, and I don't have it anymore. And I'm
older and my neighbors are older. I have a

913
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:16,000
neighbor right next to me. 18 Compton put in
two sump pumps and she flooded a third time.

914
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:23,000
I'm not blaming only the city. There is climate
change. But you dug up Winthrop. It flooded.

915
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:28,000
You dug up Delmar. It flooded. You dug up Hymas.
It floods every time. Something is not

916
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:36,000
right. It's not only the weather. >> Well.

917
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:42,000
>> It just goes to show you. I'm not discrediting
what you said, but it just goes to show

918
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,000
you we're learning, even though the streets
have been redone. Okay, so the streets are
new

919
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,000
latest standards. The all the right stuff has
been done and they still flooded. Why?

920
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,000
>> Why? Well, they're not. >> Still flooding.
They're starting to flood.

921
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,000
>> But why? >> Every time you finish a project,
when it rains, it

922
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,060
floods. >> But when it rains, the amount of
rain that we're

923
01:31:00,060 --> 01:31:03,060
getting in a short period of time, because
we never experienced that before. So

924
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:07,060
we're going on. >> You go back to 2024. We
didn't have this amount of rain

925
01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:13,060
last year. We didn't have not not in this short
amount of time.

926
01:31:13,060 --> 01:31:21,060
>> So so, you know, I like what you said, like
you, it's not only, well, let's start with,

927
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:25,060
you know, the quality of life in Pointe Claire.
We didn't change the quality of life.

928
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:29,060
It's not we understand your every one of us
here flooded. I flooded, he flooded. He most
of

929
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:34,060
us all flooded. We all lived the same thing
that you've all lived. We're not immune to
this.

930
01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:40,060
So I feel for you. And I'm in the same position
as you. I'm over $100,000 in and I got no

931
01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:45,060
more insurance. Okay? First time in 35 years.
So I get it. Okay, so. But we have to get

932
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:51,060
through it together and, and we have to do
we and we, we have sat down, we have had six

933
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:55,060
meetings or five meetings on budgets, on trying
to find money increasing what we're

934
01:31:55,060 --> 01:31:59,060
going to be spending on fixing stuff this year.
Next year, we're doing what we can. First

935
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:04,020
of all, we have to find the money. Second of
all, you have to come up with the engineering.

936
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:08,020
Third of all, we have to find the contractor
to do it. It's a process and we're expediting

937
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:12,020
even this this financial aid program that's
only supposed to come out in the fall, September,

938
01:32:12,020 --> 01:32:16,020
October. We put it through for tonight because
we know we need to you need everybody needs

939
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:21,020
help right now. So we're trying to do what
we can. And as much as shocking to you, it's

940
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:25,020
shocking to our system to, to our. Everything
has to change here to our our engineering

941
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:29,020
department is overwhelmed. All the subcontractors
we use, they're all overwhelmed too,

942
01:32:29,020 --> 01:32:34,020
because it didn't only happen in Pointe Claire.
It happened throughout the Dollard. Over

943
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:40,020
4000, over 2000 homes. Pierre. And he got.
So it's not only us. We're. We're living this

944
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:46,020
together and it's traumatic. And I mean, I
wish we could control the guy upstairs, you

945
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:50,020
know, give us a break. But we have to. >> Well,
he wasn't listening to

946
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:53,020
me. We have to deal with. We're not. >> Going
to get a breakthrough.

947
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:57,020
We have to figure out a way. That's our new
reality. That's our mindset. Now this is going

948
01:32:57,020 --> 01:33:02,080
to happen again, right? We have to figure out
a way to be able to get through it. And that's

949
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:06,080
what we're trying to do. And every one of these
conversations and every day

950
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,080
we're talking to people all helping is not
solving the problem now, but we're trying

951
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:15,080
to get there. So, I mean, it's been 30 days,
20 days. We're on the since the last storm
we

952
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:19,080
thought we were doing, you know, we we're really
advancing good with some of the projects that

953
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:24,080
the lady said that little berm worked or whatever.
But hey, you know what? That helped her.

954
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,080
But everybody else, we're still waiting now
because we just, you know, there's just so
much

955
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:31,080
to do. >> Okay. Well, thank. >> You for sorry,
I don't have

956
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,080
I don't. >> And I do. Have empathy for everybody
that flooded by the

957
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:40,080
way. I feel like I'm lucky I didn't have sewage.
I didn't have a foot of water. But it's

958
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:47,080
the third time that my home's been disrupted,
you know? So I do feel for all of

959
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:52,080
Pointe-Claire residents and, and piriform,
I don't take anything away from them.

960
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:57,080
>> Just we're all in this together, and we
have to try to figure out a way to get through

961
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,040
it together to and find solutions like we're
learning off other, you know, in the

962
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:05,040
last year when wherever it was we had a flood,
we actually reached out to people because

963
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:11,040
people were so good at holding back water in
the springtime along the shoreline. Why? We

964
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,040
reached out to them to see how we could hold
back the water temporarily on terra cotta and

965
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:19,040
Sedgefield with these portable berms or whatever.
That's what motivated us to build a

966
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,040
permanent berm. So we reach out and we're learning
from each other and try to find solutions.

967
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,040
So it's a great community for that. >> Okay.
Well thank you.

968
01:34:26,040 --> 01:35:09,000
>> Thank you. >> Martin Gendron. >> I.

969
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:22,000
>> Dans les bords les ruisseau drainage. Sunnyside
dans ses sondages. Considéré. Par des

970
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:35,000
équipes des peintres. Recalculate la pointe
des ruisseau. ET pour. Des maisons

971
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:47,000
au maisons. ET qui. A les gens ont répondu
la ville, la troisieme question c'était dans

972
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:56,000
une corvette, la derniere question c'était
de la terre, mais c'est pas directoire le

973
01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:02,060
sinister. La vision dans la reprise du sondage
voisins, alors répondu au dela des

974
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:16,060
questions les plus. C'est tout le systeme de
revoir. Dans ces changement climatique. Du

975
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:29,060
dernier devient désormais la norme banal.
IL faut construire. Merci pour les interventions.

976
01:36:29,060 --> 01:36:41,060
Vous avez des chemins de terracotta. ET la
terre et le brouette par les travaux

977
01:36:41,060 --> 01:36:50,060
publics en équipe de maisons, pas de travail
et sans doute nos meilleures. Conclusion, la

978
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:59,060
ville est capable d'appliquer la meilleure
solution. Selon sa propre evaluation. Merci
de

979
01:36:59,060 --> 01:37:07,020
nous entendre et de recevoir nos commentaires,
comme nous, vous demandons, mais ce soir. I

980
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:15,020
will not be complete without reading this.
The more asphalt and concrete we lay down,
the

981
01:37:15,020 --> 01:37:23,020
more driveways we enlarge, the more asphalt
shingle tar roofs we built. And quoting here,

982
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:30,020
quoting. The more we contribute to this climate
changes for which the fastest growing

983
01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:38,020
ecosystem is the desert. And that's. Robert
that's s Robert Aitken, chair of the geography

984
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:47,020
Department of Concordia, many time published
on the topic in 1990. My mentor. Thank you
sir.

985
01:37:47,020 --> 01:38:05,080
>> Thank you very much. >> Janet. Hannah. >>
Good evening all. Before

986
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:11,080
starting, I just wanted to say that respectfully.
I disagree with your decision to leave the

987
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:17,080
flood questions to the end. This is on our
minds. It's a priority. It is very, very

988
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:22,080
important to us. It has disrupted our lives
professionally, physically,

989
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:26,080
mentally, emotionally. And I think it should
have been brought to the forefront and

990
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:35,080
not left to the end. >> I just did it so that.
The whole purpose was to give you

991
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,080
as much time as you needed, so you could hear.
We could hear as many as we could.

992
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:43,080
>> That's not that I don't agree with that.
It's a priority. It should have been

993
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:50,080
done first. It disrupted all of our lives.
It's caused us dramatic stress, and it still

994
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:56,080
does. You can hear it in our voices. Several
people have even cried. So I think that you

995
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:03,040
need to revise your priorities. We've lived
in Pointe Claire for 40 years in the Valois
area

996
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:10,040
for 23 years. In 20 out of 23 years, we've
never had any floods. Never. All of a sudden,

997
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:16,040
three years in a row, we have flooded. You
may want to blame it on climate change, the

998
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:22,040
so-called warming of the planet. Don't insult
our intelligence with that. Prior to climate

999
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:28,040
change or warming of the planet, we had acid
rain. Big deal. We had the ozone layer that
was

1000
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:32,040
disappearing holes in the ozone layer. We had
also climate change, but cooling of the

1001
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:41,040
planet at some point, Y2K end of the world,
fear mongering, basically total fear mongering.

1002
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:49,040
The common denominator in the past three years
is the new construction all over, just in

1003
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:58,040
donegani five buildings and growing. We pay
property taxes, school taxes, water taxes,

1004
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:05,000
provincial income taxes, federal income taxes,
GST, QST and all the streets. Where's

1005
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:12,000
our money going? Where's our money going? I'm
not done yet. Rhetorical question. We know

1006
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:20,000
where it's going. Unfortunately, the land near
the Valois community garden is 30 to 50cm

1007
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:26,000
higher than the land around our property. Thus,
the water that comes down flows directly to

1008
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:33,000
our houses. Instead of moving away and towards
the community garden, the land there needs
to

1009
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:39,000
be much lower. Something needs to be done so
that the water flows away from the homes and

1010
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:48,000
not towards them. What do you plan on doing
and by when to to ensure that we no longer
have

1011
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:59,000
any floods and so that our money is properly
used. And I do want to add .6.1, 6.2, 6.3,

1012
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:04,060
6.4. My personal opinion to vote on them. I
disagree with all of them. That is money that

1013
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:10,060
should be kept in the coffers for us, and that
should be used for that woman whose house was

1014
01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:19,060
flooded, and she needs to pay 120 over to,
to, to rebuild her house. Not going to a golf

1015
01:41:19,060 --> 01:41:24,060
course, certainly not giving money away to
other organizations needs to go to

1016
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:44,060
the people in Pointe Claire who pay for it.
>> Thank you, thank you.

1017
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:49,060
>> Good evening everybody. I think the subject
of the day is the floating. Everybody is

1018
01:41:49,060 --> 01:41:57,060
complaining about the flood and the same reasons
and the same answer we get. But we have to

1019
01:41:57,060 --> 01:42:04,020
consider a lot more than the damages for each
each flood that we have. Even we have to

1020
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:11,020
consider the price of our houses. Our neighbor
is selling a house with 90 9000 less than

1021
01:42:11,020 --> 01:42:19,020
the evolution of the city. Is that normal?
It's not normal. He's losing money. So it's
not

1022
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:27,020
normal that we lose. We work, we improve our
houses, we renovate our houses, and in the

1023
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:39,020
end we lose money and we lose our house. So
I understand the community needs a lot, needs

1024
01:42:39,020 --> 01:42:45,020
bike paths. But do you imagine seeing water
on the street like this? It doesn't pass through

1025
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:51,020
the pipe path. The bike path is higher than
our street, the higher higher than our houses.

1026
01:42:51,020 --> 01:42:58,020
All the water comes toward the houses, the
baseball field. The baseball field was renovated
a

1027
01:42:58,020 --> 01:43:06,080
few years ago. It was hired up. It probably
has a French drain that is connected to the

1028
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:14,080
collector right next to our houses, which is
will be full. You suggested pumps, some pumps.

1029
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:21,080
Everybody has some pumps. What they do nothing,
because the pipes that drains around the

1030
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:30,080
houses, they are full of water. The level on
the street is so high. The level of the water
on

1031
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:36,080
the street is so high that our French drain
is full of water. It doesn't do nothing. It
works.

1032
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:44,080
Everybody inspected, everybody has a tested
and everything is working around the houses.
The

1033
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:51,080
slope of the house. We redid our pavé, our
dolls, our driveways, just in the hope

1034
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:59,080
that the water will go away from the house.
And it's not it's not because we are high.

1035
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:05,040
The drain. French drain is down the water.
The water level is too high, so it's coming
toward

1036
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:16,040
the houses. So what about our taxes? Do we
still pay the same taxes even if the house
is lost?

1037
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:21,040
The price. >> Are you asking for an answer?
>> Yes.

1038
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:27,040
>> I'm waiting. Listen, first of all, your
money in Pointe-Claire is very well

1039
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:32,040
spent and it goes in the right places. So whoever
said it doesn't go in the right place?

1040
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:38,040
Don't forget, we give $0.58 on the dollar to
Montreal. So $0.58. So you we run the city

1041
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:44,040
on the difference. Okay. On the 40, $0.42 on
the dollar we run the city, all your services,

1042
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:50,040
all the the, the stuff that we offer, all the
snow removal, which is minimal. Okay. That's,

1043
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:54,040
that's our biggest problem. We were able to
keep the $106 million we send to Montreal.
We

1044
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:58,040
could do a lot more with it. We're much better
managed than any than Montreal is

1045
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:02,000
financially. All the municipalities are well
managed. Our problem is, and you said it,

1046
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:07,000
everybody in this room has said it. Your house
is now flooded in 20 years, 30 years. In the

1047
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:12,000
last three years, it's flooded. I mean, we're
every one of us is in the same boat, but we

1048
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:17,000
can't change an infrastructure that's been
there since the 1940s. Overnight, it just

1049
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:21,000
started happening. It's a new reality. We're
adapting to it. We're learning, we're trying
to

1050
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,000
figure it out, and we're willing to put the
money where it has to go. But we have to.

1051
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:31,000
It takes time. We cannot resolve it overnight.
And every one of us are concerned. We're

1052
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,000
working day and night on flooding. That's what
we're doing. Our priorities are

1053
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:39,000
flooding. We're doing it. But you can only
do so much in a year. You can only do so much

1054
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:45,000
in a week, and you only have so many employees
to do it. Right. So we are taking all I can
tell

1055
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:50,000
you, and I know you can believe me, or you
don't have to believe me, but I can tell you

1056
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:54,000
we are making this a priority and we've kept
our word from the time we got elected. We

1057
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:58,000
made a priority. December 15th. There was a
meeting here telling people what we have

1058
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:02,060
been doing from. And I was impressed with the
amount of work that had been done, the

1059
01:46:02,060 --> 01:46:07,060
number of studies, the number of the way they
were testing the pipes and the flows and the

1060
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:10,060
identifying it. So we're doing what we can
do. But you're talking something, you know,

1061
01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:14,060
that everybody's been trying for all these
years and three years. It's changing. We're

1062
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:18,060
supposed to solve it overnight. We have to
do it together and it's going to take time.
But

1063
01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:23,060
we're going to get there. But we, we, we, we,
we, we're not the only point. We're not the

1064
01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:30,060
only city flooding. It's province wide. It's
Saskatoon got fricking 200mm of rain the

1065
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:34,060
other day. They're completely wiped out. It's
it's a world problem. It's not just here. So

1066
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:38,060
we are trying our best. We've been here. We've
been dealing with this for the last eight

1067
01:46:38,060 --> 01:46:42,060
months. And we're making headway. We're doing
more. I can say this. We're doing more

1068
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:47,060
than any municipality in the West Island, more
than any municipality. We put more money,

1069
01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:54,060
we started more projects. We got programs to
they're not too much, but we started the

1070
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:59,060
program. We're doing more than to make our
city water resistant, resilient. That's

1071
01:46:59,060 --> 01:47:04,020
all we can do. We can't stop the water from
falling, but we have to stop it from going
in

1072
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:08,020
our houses. That's what we have to do, right?
So, you know, the insurance companies, I mean,

1073
01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:13,020
they're they've wiped us all off the map saying
they're not going to insure us anymore. So,

1074
01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:18,020
you know, we have to find we, we have to find
a way that we can stop it from getting into

1075
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:22,020
our basement. And they're going to tell us
you're not allowed to have a finished basement
or

1076
01:47:22,020 --> 01:47:25,020
don't put your furnaces downstairs. And that's
where they're going because they know

1077
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:29,020
they can't resolve the problem overnight. Right.
And they know, you know, we have to assume

1078
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:34,020
it's going to happen again. So we somehow we
have to figure out, and that's what we hired

1079
01:47:34,020 --> 01:47:38,020
that company for. Who are experts who can at
least look at your property and say, okay,

1080
01:47:38,020 --> 01:47:43,020
get rid of your basement window. They'll put
a, I don't know what they'll tell you what
to

1081
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:48,020
do or what to put a sump pump or whatever.
But this is how we're going to one house at
a

1082
01:47:48,020 --> 01:47:52,020
time, one day at a time. We got to start making
our properties water resilience. That's what

1083
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:58,020
we have to do. And we can do what we can do
on our side. And we're asking you to do what
you

1084
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:02,080
on your side. And that's why we're offering
something. Is it enough? It will never be enough,

1085
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:07,080
but it's a beginning. So I mean, you just have
to every one of us here tonight have to

1086
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,080
understand we're all in the same boat. We want
to work with you. We're not trying to fight

1087
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:16,080
the system here. We're trying to work with.
But again, we got a big area to cover, a huge

1088
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:21,080
area 30. We got 12, 15,000 homes to deal with.
It doesn't happen overnight. We got 200km

1089
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:27,080
of pipes to deal with. You know, there's a
lot of stuff, a lot. But we are working the
best we

1090
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:32,080
can and the most efficiency to try to get to
the bottom of it. That's all I can tell you.
And

1091
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:36,080
I'm proud to say that because we're not sitting
around. Oh yeah, a bunch of bureaucrats,

1092
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:41,080
they don't care. We care. This is a conversation
every day, meeting after meeting, after

1093
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:45,080
meeting the gentleman from Southwood. Whatever.
We stopped for two days this week talking

1094
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,080
about all the ditches behind private homes.
Nobody knows that in this room. We sat down.

1095
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:53,080
We started talking about them. Some of them
are whose responsibilities are. Nobody

1096
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,080
knows. They've been there for 100 years. But
who owns them? Who's going to clean them? We

1097
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,040
have to start looking. We're looking at everything.
And it takes time, though.

1098
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:06,040
>> Thank you very much. I really appreciate
all the effort of the city. I know

1099
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:12,040
there is efforts. I know that everybody is
working for that, but just have to understand

1100
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:20,040
that we are totally desperate. We are living
in a stress. We can't live from homes, we don't

1101
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:26,040
sleep. We. We hear the rain. We wake up and
we go downstairs right away to see if it's

1102
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:31,040
floating or not. It's, you know, it's unbearable.
>> I totally understand that. I

1103
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:35,040
totally understand that. Believe me. I mean,
I've lived what you've lived. We've all

1104
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:41,040
lived. We totally get that. And we're in the
same boat. I want to go away for a week, and
I

1105
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,040
worry if I go away in the rain, what's going
to happen? So I understand it. Believe me,
I

1106
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:50,040
understand it, but I don't you know, I don't
have a quick answer. All I can tell you is

1107
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:55,040
that we're doing everything we can. And I appreciate
your your understanding and your concerns.

1108
01:49:55,040 --> 01:50:00,000
And I appreciate that a lot because we're not
just closing our eyes. Yeah. It's not going

1109
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:05,000
to rain again. It's okay. No, no, we're taking
this serious. >> Thank you very much. Thank

1110
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:47,000
you. >> Lucy Ayala. Lucy Ayala. >> Madame Gutierrez,
how many

1111
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,000
more people are left for questions? >> One.

1112
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:56,000
>> Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven. Eight.
Nine. Ten. 11121314. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19.

1113
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:01,060
Probably like 20. Okay. Yeah. So we're going
missus. Yeah. >> Well, maybe we can group

1114
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:06,060
some of them together. I think everybody has
the same concerns. I mean I don't know what
how we

1115
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:10,060
can do. Well let's keep going. We're going
to keep going and we'll see how it goes. And

1116
01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:15,060
maybe we can try to. I don't want everybody
have to stay here all night. I mean, I feel

1117
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:19,060
bad that. >> I want to scratch out Missus Ayala,
who doesn't seem to be

1118
01:51:19,060 --> 01:51:38,060
answering. >> The list. >> Yeah. I propose
that we

1119
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:45,060
extend to. >> Seconded. >> I seconded.

1120
01:51:45,060 --> 01:52:14,020
>> Thank you. >> So the next person. >> Connu
pour malheureusement

1121
01:52:14,020 --> 01:52:20,020
des amendments exceptionnelles les specialists
nous dice de plus en plus fréquentes avec

1122
01:52:20,020 --> 01:52:26,020
les changements climatiques pour développer
des. Sur un territoire resistant avec des

1123
01:52:26,020 --> 01:52:32,020
Marais des villes et plusieurs ruisseaux, notamment
le ruisseau terra-cotta Valois.

1124
01:52:32,020 --> 01:52:41,020
Les vieux de NE avec l'urbanisation. ONT été
intégrée au réseau des groups

1125
01:52:41,020 --> 01:52:51,020
pluvial. ET en fonction des réalités de l'époque.
NE pouvait prévoir le

1126
01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:58,020
développement commercial residential aujourd'hui
Pointe Claire. Stationnement asphalt

1127
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:10,080
et les immeubles superficial les tours residential
ou encore l'arrivée. De la brosse East

1128
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:19,080
Brunswick. Comme le point de vue de la ville.
Alors depuis les surfaces et les secteurs

1129
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:27,080
absorbents du tout le puy est rapidement dirigée
par le réseau pluvial qui. Converge en

1130
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:35,080
suite vers le secteur de la dans le lac Saint
Louis, principalement de l'Abbaye de

1131
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:47,080
Valois, la joint derniere. Du Puy en trois
sur l'ensemble du territoire de Pointe-Claire,

1132
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:58,080
représente pres de 2.7 million liters equivalent
Piscine olympique aucun. Volume IL n'a

1133
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:09,040
pas été adaptée a l'évolution de la ville.
Les travaux de la ville la situation par le

1134
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:20,040
probleme de font la loi de physique des liquides
de. La capacité maximum a un autre qui

1135
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:32,040
sont les. Dons a la source. Seulement dans
les niveaux de développement des ouvrages
de

1136
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:45,040
travers. Les qui utilize davantage comme le
bassin de retention des monuments pour

1137
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:57,040
notamment jouer un role important puisqu'il
déja plusieurs. Temporaires de

1138
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:07,000
construction, qui ont le ruisseau des eaux
pluvial. Projet démontre son terrain

1139
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:22,000
l'équivalent. 000 millimeters depuis. Du réseau
des groups pluvial de three dimensional de

1140
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:27,000
l'ensemble du réseau et des rapports provenant
des seigneurs afin de les

1141
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:34,000
différents scenarios depuis des établissements
nécessaires pour les personnes de.

1142
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:42,000
>> Merci, monsieur le point premier. Les nouveaux
projet et les nouveaux projets, mais les

1143
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:49,000
nouveaux projets, IL faut qui suivent un nouveau
norme pour la loi sur le terrain, les

1144
01:55:49,000 --> 01:56:07,060
nouveaux les projets e. >> Tower avec un. Avec
un. Peu au bout de.

1145
01:56:07,060 --> 01:56:24,060
>> La. Par les. Nouveaux parties de la vie
dans la recherche sur le terrain. En

1146
01:56:24,060 --> 01:56:32,060
regard to those de calcul, calculate the volume
de l'hopital mais pour. On a

1147
01:56:32,060 --> 01:56:46,060
parlez vous avez. And document pour le mountain
de la. Voir, monsieur. Du travail. Piece

1148
01:56:46,060 --> 01:57:01,020
about 18 years old to see the. No no project
future. So merci for me. I can tell you a

1149
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:21,020
nouveau project présentée par la calcul expectations.
Le nouveau. La réponse de. De la

1150
01:57:21,020 --> 01:57:28,020
ensemble. De calcul. Okay, merci beaucoup.
>> Mr. Mayor. And I had just a

1151
01:57:28,020 --> 01:57:36,020
precision to Mr. Le Point. Just. Avec l'école
technologie supérieure par rapport a

1152
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:42,020
pluvial par des recommandations sur sa fait
partie de planification pour améliorer le

1153
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:54,020
réseau. >> Merci. >> Tom Fullerton.

1154
01:57:54,020 --> 01:58:00,080
>> Good evening, good evening. A lot of the
points that I wanted to raise have already

1155
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,080
been raised. I think you've heard the message.
I think you've heard the applause from

1156
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:10,080
the people outside. There's a lot of emotions
and a lot of people's lives have been

1157
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:14,080
disrupted. So I won't go through all of that
again. Thank you. The point I would

1158
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:19,080
like to emphasize is communication. We receive
already a lot of alerts from

1159
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:26,080
Pointe Claire for garbage pickup or other changes
to schedules. We were returning

1160
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:33,080
from up north when this latest rainfall hit.
We received no alerts even though we could

1161
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:41,080
barely drive to our residence on Broadview.
The streets below and above were all blocked.
We

1162
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:45,080
didn't get an alert. >> We had a debriefing
the day after, and that came up and has

1163
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:49,080
been addressed. And it's a great point you're
bringing up, and we're making taking

1164
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:53,080
measures to make sure that we can be able to
do that in the future.

1165
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:57,080
>> I hope so, I think along those same lines,
I think the frustration that you're hearing

1166
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:02,040
from a lot of residents and the frustration
that I hear up and down our street, people
with

1167
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:07,040
two sump pumps, French drain. The guy's a plumber,
he's put in everything, and he still

1168
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:15,040
floods. And it's not rainwater, it's his toilet
skyrocketing. Like this is. Obviously the

1169
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:21,040
aqueducts can no longer handle the volume of
rain that we're receiving. Two years ago, we

1170
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:33,040
had 50mm in an hour, 80mm in an hour, and now
150 to 180. The rate of change is enormous.
I

1171
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:38,040
don't think that we can easily rip up all the
aqueducts and replace them with large pipes.

1172
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:43,040
I understand that point, but I think that other
measures, and I hope in the consultation

1173
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:50,040
process with this external firm, that you come
up with temporary measures as well as long
term

1174
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:55,040
development, so that if we're putting in new
developments, that those developments are

1175
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:59,040
tied to infrastructure improvements. >> Absolutely.

1176
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:03,000
>> It's not enough to put a tank on the bottom
of a department.

1177
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:06,000
>> Sure. I can't hear you. I'm sorry. >> That's
okay. I'm glad for

1178
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:12,000
the applause. I think that we can't rely on
a tank under the apartments, given the rate
of

1179
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:18,000
change, if the rainfall is increasing at this
exponential rate, then the standards we put

1180
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:22,000
in place today will no longer be effective
in five years. >> Well, exactly. That's why

1181
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:28,000
there's a calculation done now. The new norm
is 120 150mm rain. Right. So we have to start

1182
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,000
working with those new norms now. Right. >>
But if you continue the rate

1183
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:36,000
of change by next year, we could be looking
at 300mm of rain in an hour. What I'm

1184
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:40,000
saying is we can't rely on a retention basin
under an apartment building. We have to

1185
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:45,000
improve the existing infrastructure. I understand
that that process can take 5 to

1186
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:52,000
10 years to redo all of the storm drains in
Pointe Claire, and there's.

1187
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,000
>> Lots of measurements we can take. I'll just
give you an example. And you know, right

1188
02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:01,060
now everybody's sump pump goes into a storm
drain. So your house is flooding or you've
got

1189
02:01:01,060 --> 02:01:05,060
lots of water. Your sump pump is pumping your
two sump pumps where it is going into the

1190
02:01:05,060 --> 02:01:09,060
storm drains. Right? >> Well, it's not going
in because there's a river going

1191
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:12,060
down Broadway. >> Right. So but if we could,
if we could eliminate, you know,

1192
02:01:12,060 --> 02:01:17,060
if you were now no longer the pump, your sump
pumps into the storm drain would just to go

1193
02:01:17,060 --> 02:01:22,060
out onto your lawn into a rain garden or something
to slow down the water going into the

1194
02:01:22,060 --> 02:01:28,060
storm drain. It might alleviate some of the
water in the pipes. It would carry more water.

1195
02:01:28,060 --> 02:01:32,060
These are little things we're looking at. I
don't have all the answers, but these are all

1196
02:01:32,060 --> 02:01:36,060
things that have to be looked at, right? >>
So I think along the same

1197
02:01:36,060 --> 02:01:40,060
process, if, if, if we're doing everything
that we can as private residents to pump water

1198
02:01:40,060 --> 02:01:46,060
out of our basement, that's coming in from
the city's infrastructure that's been

1199
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:53,060
overwhelmed. Yeah. Then likewise, could we
consider putting a pumping station

1200
02:01:53,060 --> 02:01:58,060
somewhere along the line so that this water
can get out of the storm drains, so that we

1201
02:01:58,060 --> 02:02:03,020
can then pump into them? Because the problem
is we can't pump into them. And unless

1202
02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:07,020
you're home and you flick the diverter switch
and send that water out into your backyard,

1203
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:12,020
which I don't think we really want, especially
if it's a mix of sewage and fresh water. We

1204
02:02:12,020 --> 02:02:17,020
don't want people pumping water just everywhere
onto their properties or their neighbors.

1205
02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:24,020
Right? So how can we evacuate these systems
more effectively to allow us to pump it into
the

1206
02:02:24,020 --> 02:02:27,020
appropriate? >> That's all the things we're
looking at. That's all the

1207
02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:31,020
stuff we're looking at. >> So this comes back
to my communication. I think that

1208
02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:37,020
tonight you would have fewer people present
and you would have. Emotions that were more

1209
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:45,020
under control and a more civil debate. Perhaps
if the communication was improved.

1210
02:02:45,020 --> 02:02:50,020
This is the plan, not an idea. And we hear
you and my basement flooded too. But what is
the

1211
02:02:50,020 --> 02:02:55,020
actionable item that's following this? >> Well,
so we have we have a

1212
02:02:55,020 --> 02:02:59,020
plan in place which. >> Is going to be revealed
tomorrow. We have the site

1213
02:02:59,020 --> 02:03:03,080
coming out tomorrow. >> Tomorrow. >> So we
we're mediating

1214
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:06,080
everything. Okay. Because of. >> I'm sorry,
you have a what coming.

1215
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:09,080
>> Up tomorrow, a communique coming out explaining
to >> People what we're going to

1216
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:13,080
be doing moving forward, some of the procedures
we're taking place, there'll be a website

1217
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:16,080
keeping everybody up to date that we've developed.
Unfortunately, it's starting

1218
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:22,080
tomorrow. We didn't expect the rain on the
20th of June. We were going along getting

1219
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:28,080
everything done. So everything this rain on
June 20th didn't help us get to our finish
line.

1220
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:33,080
So but it's coming out tomorrow and all the
stuff we're doing the program tonight that
we're

1221
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:38,080
advancing the money, the people that was supposed
to only come out in the fall, we expect to

1222
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:43,080
get it to happen as of tomorrow. So yes, we're
doing and we and I don't disagree. We have
to

1223
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,080
communicate better. And we're trying to get
there with this site. So we're starting

1224
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:51,080
tomorrow and there'll be a continuous update
to what's going on and what to do and

1225
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:55,080
what's happening. And yeah, so that's. >> Thank
you. I'm glad to hear

1226
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:58,080
that there's something coming forward. The
rains have been happening for two years. So
I

1227
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:03,040
don't think this is a last month June 20th
issue. I mean it's the third time I've

1228
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:07,040
flooded in two years, you know. So but I'm
pleased that the communication is going to
be

1229
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:12,040
improved. I hope you're hearing us that the
citizens are extremely frustrated, not with

1230
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:18,040
our homes, not with what we've done. We've
taken all appropriate measures, but the

1231
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:25,040
aqueducts, the storm drains can no longer handle
this capacity. And and we need a we need a

1232
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:30,040
stopgap measure. We need a temporary solution,
an actionable solution. Now.

1233
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:33,040
>> Well, we've done and, you know, again, I'm
going. >> To.

1234
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:38,040
>> I'm hearing I've heard everybody in this
room and I and I don't think there's been

1235
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:42,040
any bad debate here. I think it's been all
great questions and great conversation because

1236
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:46,040
I think we've learned a lot. We've heard a
lot of great stuff. Okay. And I'm not

1237
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:51,040
defending the city, but we can't be. We're
not the only player. We all have to work

1238
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:56,040
together. It's all new to us too. This is all
new to us. Okay, three years and three

1239
02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:00,000
years ago, we didn't live any of this. In three
years, our lives have changed and you know

1240
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,000
it's changed for you. One household. It's changed
for us, for the whole city. And it's

1241
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:10,000
the tough thing to deal with. And, you know,
I mean, there's lots of it's huge. And we got

1242
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:15,000
elected here in November. We have made it a
priority. And I'm going to tell you again,
we

1243
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:19,000
have done more than any municipality that has
done well. >> I look forward to hearing

1244
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:22,000
about that. In your communication, I'd like
to know what actionable steps have been

1245
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:27,000
done, not just reassuring words. >> You'll
see it in some of the stuff that the project
has

1246
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:31,000
already taken place. You'll see it in the budget,
the money we're spending. We're spending

1247
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:35,000
$2 million on Sedgefield building that that
sponge park, that berm that we just built,

1248
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:39,000
Ivanhoe Crescent being redone with ditches
instead of pipes, all kinds of stuff. It's
all

1249
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:45,000
happening now as we speak. All right. Thank
you. >> Thank you, Mr. Fullerton. Hi.

1250
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:50,000
How are you? We know each other. I just want
to touch one statement. Is that the citizens

1251
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:54,000
done everything they can. I think they are
doing everything they can. But of all the

1252
02:05:54,000 --> 02:06:02,060
citizens that I've seen, I would say 50, 60%
of them aren't really doing the right

1253
02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:05,060
things to address this. And that's part of
the communication. And that's why

1254
02:06:05,060 --> 02:06:11,060
that eco habitat will come to your home, you
know, to address the issues. And that that's

1255
02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:15,060
from me going to my citizens and seeing that,
you know, I installed a French drain. Well,

1256
02:06:15,060 --> 02:06:20,060
French drains are useless under these circumstances.
There's there's, there's other

1257
02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:23,060
mitigation issues that that need to be done.
And that's part of the communication

1258
02:06:23,060 --> 02:06:28,060
process that that the mayor and the administration
is working so hard on. We got to get that

1259
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:34,060
message out there and it's coming. It's coming.
But we we are like, I, I got flooded

1260
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:41,060
again because I was up north. But my point
being is that there's a lot of things that
we

1261
02:06:41,060 --> 02:06:46,060
have to communicate, what can be done to address
these issues, because it's a bit more complex

1262
02:06:46,060 --> 02:06:51,060
and every home has their particular issue.
>> Yeah. You're saying this

1263
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:55,060
consultation, the the firm will come to each
individual home on a request basis.

1264
02:06:55,060 --> 02:06:59,060
>> Yeah. You make it, you fill out a request.
And I mean they're going to be overwhelmed,

1265
02:06:59,060 --> 02:07:03,020
obviously probably, but they'll come to your
house and they'll evaluate your home and give
you

1266
02:07:03,020 --> 02:07:08,020
a report on what you should be doing to make
your house more water resilient.

1267
02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:11,020
>> Okay. >> There was maybe confusion that
they were coming to help

1268
02:07:11,020 --> 02:07:17,020
the city, but no, they're coming to help individual
homes to be more resilient

1269
02:07:17,020 --> 02:07:21,020
individually. That's the the program that we're
trying to set forward.

1270
02:07:21,020 --> 02:07:45,020
>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your time.
>> Okay.

1271
02:07:45,020 --> 02:07:48,020
>> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> I'm from
district seven.

1272
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:55,020
Okay. >> Your name is Kim. Kim. >> So I've
been living in the

1273
02:07:55,020 --> 02:08:00,080
same area for about 27 years. And I've had
two floods over the last couple of years. Like

1274
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:07,080
many of the residents from the area. However,
in my area, Vanguard Hymas Winthrop have

1275
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:14,080
been redone. Doesn't seem to have helped us.
Is there going to be an assessment to find.

1276
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:19,080
>> Out if we've already started a process to
look at Hymans Boulevard?

1277
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:24,080
>> And when do we think that this process may
come to an end and we'll know what's going
on

1278
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:28,080
with it? >> We I can't tell you we asked for
it last week. And how long

1279
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:31,080
will it take? >> Several months. >> Several
months, several

1280
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:34,080
months. >> Because it's the second flood since
Hymas has been

1281
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:37,080
redone. >> Yeah. No, and that's why we asked
for an evaluation of

1282
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:41,080
what's going on there, because it's all new
state of the art latest. What's going on?

1283
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,080
>> We didn't think of that after the first
flood. >> Sorry.

1284
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:48,080
>> We didn't think of that after the first
flood. >> Well, it was a little bit

1285
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:52,080
different. This one was a little bit this one
here was different. From what I

1286
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:57,080
understand, this was a lot worse than the first
one on Hymas. So there's something

1287
02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:04,040
that I wasn't there after the first one, but
I was there after this one. And we mandated

1288
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:09,040
this caucus council mandated an intervention
on him to find out what's going on.

1289
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:13,040
>> Okay. Well, Winthrop be looked at as well.
>> Well, it's all part of it

1290
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:17,040
all. Yeah, it's all part of the same. Like,
you guys got hit completely different this
time

1291
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:22,040
than last time. He has to have the microburst
was right over in that area and everything

1292
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:27,040
else. But that's why it was so important to
have these these conversations tonight was
to

1293
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:33,040
understand a we we thought we had figured it
out up until June because we had five areas

1294
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:37,040
we were looking at. Now we got a whole other
area. That's some new areas to look at, new

1295
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:41,040
situations to look at. So we're going to yes,
we're moving forward. Looking at your area

1296
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:46,040
and listening to what you guys have and taking
it all down and building that on it.

1297
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:50,040
>> And will the public be able to see what
you found out? >> Absolutely. And we've

1298
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:54,040
already held three meetings. On December 15th,
we had a meeting here. People came, we showed

1299
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:58,040
them everything we'd done, all the pipes. We
checked where we thought their problems were.

1300
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:03,000
Then we did another. We did another intervention
in when was it?

1301
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:08,000
>> It was in May. >> In May, with more stuff
we learned and stuff that you

1302
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:12,000
could do on your house. And we had people come
and talk to you and we're trying to. Yeah,

1303
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,000
we're trying to communicate the best we can.
>> Very well.

1304
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:29,000
>> Thank you, thank you. >> Brant Cowan. >>
Good evening. I have a

1305
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:34,000
question. I was wanting to know what had been
done with the respect to the flooding, with

1306
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:39,000
the in the emergency plan. So I, you know,
was on the the emergency planning committee

1307
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:45,000
before. So I knew I knew I am familiar with
the emergency plan as it stood a couple of

1308
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:50,000
years ago. So I was wondering what had been
done since to incorporate a response to

1309
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:56,000
flooding and other kinds of natural disasters
that we we can predict, such as heat. We

1310
02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:00,060
have. We've responded to when there's heat
waves or power outages, that sort of thing.
So

1311
02:11:00,060 --> 02:11:08,060
I got a copy of the most recent emergency plan,
and I was kind of surprised that so much of
it

1312
02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:12,060
was redacted. It's not we're not we don't have
the plan for World War three. We're not

1313
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:16,060
going to get invaded. I don't think there's
much that really should be secret. Held

1314
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:21,060
confidential in emergency plan. I put it to
you that it's not a good idea to wait until
an

1315
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:27,060
emergency before you release this information.
But anyway, what I did see, there is no

1316
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:33,060
annex in the plan dealing with emergency flooding
and or any of the other any other kinds of

1317
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:39,060
emergency situations that might come up. What
what the plan does have, it's basically a

1318
02:11:39,060 --> 02:11:43,060
telephone directory and the telephone numbers
are redacted. And the offices, some of the

1319
02:11:43,060 --> 02:11:49,060
offices are redacted, but it doesn't. There
is you know, I see the table of contents.

1320
02:11:49,060 --> 02:11:53,060
There is no provision yet for any of these
kinds of emergencies. I think it might

1321
02:11:53,060 --> 02:12:01,020
be a good idea to look into that one and two.
The this plan is is cascades down from the

1322
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:05,020
agglomeration. The agglomeration indicates
that it's quite willing to help. I'm

1323
02:12:05,020 --> 02:12:13,020
so first question, I guess, is have we asked
them for any help? >> So on that note, I sit
on

1324
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:17,020
the Public Security Commission and we've already
had a meeting concerning that already. We met

1325
02:12:17,020 --> 02:12:24,020
with the SIM and all the players for especially
after the flooding of last year. We

1326
02:12:24,020 --> 02:12:29,020
we've had a lot of discussions about what they've
learned, how they're. They've changed their

1327
02:12:29,020 --> 02:12:35,020
operating procedures. They were surprised,
like, for instance, a Montreal. When there's
a fire,

1328
02:12:35,020 --> 02:12:39,020
you can see the smoke coming out. You know,
many places are caught on fire. They were

1329
02:12:39,020 --> 02:12:43,020
telling us they were completely overwhelmed
when they realized. They did not realize how
many

1330
02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:48,020
houses got flooded, because it took 2 or 3
days for the people to start putting their
stuff

1331
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:52,020
out, because the water went in their basements
and they didn't know that the houses were

1332
02:12:52,020 --> 02:12:56,020
flooded until. So it was, you know, we've learned
a lot and we're still discussing the best

1333
02:12:56,020 --> 02:13:01,080
operating, how we're going to get the message
out to citizens sooner. I think Pointe-Claire

1334
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:06,080
right now, we're talking about even us ourselves
inside internally, we're talking about

1335
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:12,080
different operating procedures for Emergency
Measures Act to have a plan to start days

1336
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:18,080
before when we know what's coming. And I mean
you, you have something you can add to

1337
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:22,080
that. Jill. It's work in progress right now
for flooding and everything, right?

1338
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:26,080
>> Yeah. That's correct. And complement to
the meetings that you're having. Essentially,

1339
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:32,080
we're taking that information to develop that
plan more thoroughly on our side.

1340
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:38,080
>> Well, they were supposed to I arranged two
years ago for a year and a half ago, two years

1341
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:42,080
ago, for a fellow who had expertise in emergency
planning to help with help the city with

1342
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:47,080
risk assessment. And I don't know if there's
been any progress in that, but that was

1343
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:52,080
set up about a year and a half ago. But there's
nothing in the emergency plan to reflect that

1344
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:56,080
unless it was part of the A sections that were
many sections that were redacted.

1345
02:13:56,080 --> 02:14:01,040
But I have a good idea of what was redacted
because I know the the the plan as it stood
two

1346
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:05,040
years ago because I saw it. So I don't think
there's anything in the redaction that has

1347
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:12,040
that's been redacted that has anything to do
with risk assessment and or, and you

1348
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:15,040
didn't actually answer the question whether
we've asked the agglomeration, I take it we

1349
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:20,040
haven't for this. For what? For whatever support
that they they said they would support.

1350
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:24,040
>> They're working. We're working with them.
I mean, we have meetings about this.

1351
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:31,040
>> Okay. Well, then let's. >> We're we're we're
updating. We're starting to look at

1352
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:35,040
different procedures. We had an emergency.
You were here for eight years, Mr. Kaplan.
Right.

1353
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,040
And I think you said on emergency measures.
>> Yeah, that's what.

1354
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:43,040
>> I'm telling you. So I know. So you were
there for eight years. You said, you know how

1355
02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:47,040
it works now. The realities have changed. Flooding
has become a new priority in the

1356
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:52,040
last two years, year and a half. We had one
flood three years ago. It kind of went okay.
It

1357
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:57,040
happened. Now it's become a new reality. So
now we are in the process and Jill is the new

1358
02:14:57,040 --> 02:15:01,000
director general for since what, three months
now? And we've asked him to sit down with the

1359
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:05,000
emergency measures team and start looking at
all these things. Now, it's a new reality.

1360
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:10,000
And to to implement new procedures. So it's
all in the works.

1361
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:16,000
>> I recognize that the emergency plan is was
at least been around for at least the

1362
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:21,000
agglomeration plan for at least three years.
And what we have done up to now appears that
we

1363
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:25,000
fill in some blanks, but we haven't actually
come up with any plan.

1364
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:30,000
>> We're coming up with. I'm trying to explain
to you. Mr. I get it working on it, but you

1365
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:34,000
don't want to listen. We are working on coming
up with a new plan, with new procedures for

1366
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:39,000
the new realities. I get you. >> I'm trying
to get I'm trying to get you to give me a.

1367
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:42,000
>> You're trying to you're trying to. I know
what. >> You're trying.

1368
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:47,000
>> To do, but I'm not. I'm not getting a debate
with you. So what's your next question?

1369
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:50,000
>> I'm just trying to ask one question. When
you'll have a plan, I.

1370
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:54,000
>> I'll let you know. I can't I don't have
the answer tonight. >> Okay.

1371
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:58,000
>> I don't have the answer tonight. Thank you.
I'm working on it. Thank you.

1372
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:08,060
>> Lauren. Pauline. Yes. >> Good evening. Lauren.
Pauline 131 Alston district

1373
02:16:08,060 --> 02:16:17,060
four. Like many of the people here tonight,
we were hit with the flood in August of 2024.

1374
02:16:17,060 --> 02:16:26,060
Quite devastatingly, in June of this year,
not so much, but we still received two inches
of

1375
02:16:26,060 --> 02:16:34,060
water in our basement, which was in the process
of still being renovated from the

1376
02:16:34,060 --> 02:16:40,060
previous flood. This is a piece of my molding,
which I put caulking on on Saturday

1377
02:16:40,060 --> 02:16:47,060
afternoon. It was torn up on Sunday afternoon.
Now there's been some talk about

1378
02:16:47,060 --> 02:16:54,060
development over development, whether that's
leading to some of these these issues. On

1379
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:58,060
Alston. Of course, we're very close to the
large amounts of development that have gone
on

1380
02:16:58,060 --> 02:17:05,020
on Hymas. That water all comes down. Alston.
It flows down Alston and stays in the middle

1381
02:17:05,020 --> 02:17:14,020
of Alston. When we have rainfall of this type
after our 2020 flood, we took measures to

1382
02:17:14,020 --> 02:17:21,020
protect our house. We had two sump pumps, new
backflow valve. There's nowhere for the water

1383
02:17:21,020 --> 02:17:28,020
to go now. That's no different from anybody
else here, but there is a difference with our

1384
02:17:28,020 --> 02:17:37,020
situation in. Behind my property is the South
Greenwich development. The townhouses

1385
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:43,020
there were built on a wetlands mayor Belvedere.
You'll remember this issue very well

1386
02:17:43,020 --> 02:17:49,020
from your first term. >> Very well. Absolutely.
>> Townhouses pump groundwater

1387
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:59,020
from the wetlands that they're built upon into
an open ditch bordering on our property. In

1388
02:17:59,020 --> 02:18:05,080
July 2019, we had a meeting in this room yourself,
Councilor Webb, Marc-Andre Roy from and

1389
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:15,080
all the residents on all, we raised concerns
about that design. They were dismissed by.

1390
02:18:15,080 --> 02:18:22,080
Marc-Andre Waugh waived a permit in our faces.
They committed to follow up meetings

1391
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:30,080
on all of the concerns, including drainage.
Those were ignored. That meeting was held,

1392
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:37,080
in our opinion, to appease the city with no
intent on taking any actions.

1393
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:45,080
>> If you do remember. One thing that came
out of that, it was more than just the flooding

1394
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:50,080
that you guys were dealing with. We're dealing
with all kinds of inefficiencies in the work
that

1395
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:54,080
hadn't been finished, and we held back one
of his permits in order to get the work done,

1396
02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:59,080
which a lot of us I'm not talking about the
drainage, but a lot of the other stuff got

1397
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:03,040
done because we wouldn't issue permits. So
we did take a stance, and he sat in this

1398
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:08,040
office for a day waiting for his permits, and
we refused to give him his permit until. So

1399
02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:11,040
we did take. >> Many of our other issues from
that meeting were not

1400
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:18,040
addressed, including work on weekends starting
at 5 a.m. work on weekdays going past the

1401
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:26,040
limit, cement trucks starting at 5:06 a.m.
on a Saturday. They didn't care. So you can

1402
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:33,040
you can mention that on May 22nd of this year,
I sent an email to yourself and Councilor

1403
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:42,040
Swidsinski about unusual water accumulation
in that ditch. It has become a stagnant swamp.

1404
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:50,040
There are bulrushes, algae, and it's a fairly
slow trickle for a drain. It's attracting

1405
02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:57,040
mosquitoes. It's breeding mosquitoes, following
up with public works today, the city

1406
02:19:57,040 --> 02:20:05,000
has no idea where that drain is draining to,
and they cannot trace to whether it's draining

1407
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:11,000
into the into the forest or elsewhere. They
say it's on private property. They have no

1408
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:22,000
plans for that. Now, that ditch that we warned
about in 2019 and again this year, four weeks

1409
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:29,000
before the flood, as it stopped draining on
June 20th, it was very close to cresting and

1410
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:36,000
coming over the banks into our property. My
property at that was bordering that ditch was
a

1411
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:42,000
lake. As many other people, other residents
had lakes as well. But I had a source here

1412
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:50,000
of water in a nonfunctioning drainage ditch.
A resident of the Greenwich townhouses had

1413
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:57,000
two gas powered pumps trying to pump out that
ditch and pumping it into the forest. They
were

1414
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:10,060
at risk too, and they were putting our properties
at risk. Now the. The information that

1415
02:21:10,060 --> 02:21:18,060
we received from the city back in 2019 2020,
these are quotes from public works and from
our

1416
02:21:18,060 --> 02:21:25,060
councilor at the time. The rain water should
be drained by gravity to the side. Captor.

1417
02:21:25,060 --> 02:21:31,060
The ditch has been done in accordance with
the plans approved on permit. What was

1418
02:21:31,060 --> 02:21:36,060
done was accepted as part of the Sustainable
Development Plan for this project.

1419
02:21:36,060 --> 02:21:42,060
>> I just I don't want to be rude, but your
time is up and you can give you another 1015

1420
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:44,060
seconds. >> I'm closing my book. >> Okay, good.

1421
02:21:44,060 --> 02:21:47,060
>> Okay. >> Just because I want everybody else
to have a chance.

1422
02:21:47,060 --> 02:21:52,060
That's all. >> I understand that. What does
the city plan to do to take

1423
02:21:52,060 --> 02:21:58,060
care of the threat that is behind my house
and what's in front of my house, the street,

1424
02:21:58,060 --> 02:22:03,020
the drainage that is causing flooding issues.
>> We had. I can't tell you

1425
02:22:03,020 --> 02:22:08,020
what we're going to do, but we did talk about
it tonight. Again, it's a complicated issue

1426
02:22:08,020 --> 02:22:14,020
because the ditch is on private property, and
I know when I can only go back to 2019, when
I

1427
02:22:14,020 --> 02:22:19,020
was here and we went on that property to check
out the ditch, I was removed from the property

1428
02:22:19,020 --> 02:22:23,020
because it was on private property. So we have
to look at what we're up against. We're

1429
02:22:23,020 --> 02:22:28,020
going to look at we'll take your information.
You just told us what public Works told you.

1430
02:22:28,020 --> 02:22:33,020
I'd like to see what they actually said. And
maybe you have a copy of that letter they

1431
02:22:33,020 --> 02:22:36,020
told you, or that information. >> With Samuel
from Public Works.

1432
02:22:36,020 --> 02:22:41,020
>> So we got that. We'll talk to Samuel and
we'll. Mr. Straczynski, you're well

1433
02:22:41,020 --> 02:22:45,020
represented. He asked us every week, every
time we see him, what we're doing. And we're

1434
02:22:45,020 --> 02:22:51,020
we're taking a look at it. >> Okay. And I'd
like to thank Mr. Swidsinski for his support

1435
02:22:51,020 --> 02:22:57,020
both before, during and after the flood incident,
and I hope everybody will recover from

1436
02:22:57,020 --> 02:23:03,080
this as well as we can. But we need the help
from the city in order to do that. Thank you,

1437
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:16,080
thank you. >> Stephanie. Jolene. >> Good evening.
My name is

1438
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:22,080
Stephanie. I'm at 53 Potter in the Valois district.
So district three. You won't be

1439
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:26,080
surprised, of course, that I too was the victim
of flooding this past year, along with two

1440
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:32,080
of my neighbors who are here downstairs. Also
flooded two years ago again had not flooded

1441
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:39,080
in 50 years. I would add though, and my goal
right now is not to complain, but that we have
had

1442
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:44,080
our flooding, or at least the street flooding
every year for 15 years. The moment we have

1443
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:48,080
heavy rains, they didn't reach to the level
of our houses. I'm on an incline I don't have.
I'm

1444
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:53,080
not going in the opposite direction. So in
fact, not at risk of flooding mostly. But

1445
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:57,080
we've still had this problem for two years
in a row. That being said, I've had the

1446
02:23:57,080 --> 02:24:02,040
benefit of hearing so many of my fellow citizens
speak this evening. And as to you as well,

1447
02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:08,040
Mr. Mayor, particular speaking, and what's
clear, I think from what I've heard from the

1448
02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:13,040
citizens, yes, we have a problem. It's heartbreaking.
Some of the stories we've heard

1449
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:17,040
this evening, worse than I am. Hearts out to
many of the people have spoken earlier this

1450
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:23,040
evening. But the reality is, is there's a lot
of competing priorities that you're going to

1451
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:28,040
be dealt with. You've alluded to some of them
this evening. Our street, of course, from my

1452
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:32,040
perspective selfishly is a priority. But so
is the Belmar with the Del Mar we heard this

1453
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:38,040
evening. There's also limited funds. Let's
be honest, there are limited funds, limited

1454
02:24:38,040 --> 02:24:43,040
budget. You you alluded to the prioritization
process that has to be done. You've consulted

1455
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:47,040
with people. You have consultants coming in.
I have two questions. The first

1456
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:52,040
question is what criteria is the council are
you collectively going to be

1457
02:24:52,040 --> 02:24:58,040
looking at when it comes to actually prioritizing
how you will allocate major funds for

1458
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:02,000
infrastructure projects? Because obviously
there will be competing projects cleaning

1459
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:09,000
here, redoing infrastructure there. So how
do you what criteria will you be applying

1460
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:15,000
to prioritize where funds are allocated? When
you get all these consultation reports in?

1461
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:24,000
And number two, when and how as residents,
will we be able to access the results of the

1462
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:30,000
fruits of this analysis so that we can see
in a transparent manner how you prioritize
these

1463
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:34,000
projects, in what order? And I mean, just to
be clear, because my question is clear, it's
not

1464
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:42,000
just knowing that you're doing A and B and
C in that order, but why A and not F and why
B

1465
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:50,000
and not D? I think there's that's owed to the
residents in the circumstances given, as you

1466
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:55,000
mentioned, the new reality we're facing with
which is hitting some residents harder

1467
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:59,000
than others. There's clearly patterns developing
within the city. So those are my two

1468
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:03,060
questions for you. >> So I mean great questions.
And it's going to be a tough

1469
02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:07,060
one to answer clearly because a little while
ago, like I said, we had maybe five priorities,

1470
02:26:07,060 --> 02:26:11,060
which we could deal with over a couple of years.
But now there's more, now there's more.

1471
02:26:11,060 --> 02:26:17,060
They're going to obviously come as of this
week, some of the stuff that we looked at,
like

1472
02:26:17,060 --> 02:26:24,060
sandalwood that got prioritized because it's
been that's been flooding for not only recently,

1473
02:26:24,060 --> 02:26:30,060
but for many, many years prior to three years
ago, because of the runoff of terracotta. And,

1474
02:26:30,060 --> 02:26:35,060
and they've had issues for years and years
and years and years. And that's one reason

1475
02:26:35,060 --> 02:26:41,060
that got prioritized, prioritized. Sometimes
it's the infrastructure under the ground

1476
02:26:41,060 --> 02:26:45,060
that will create the priority. If we change
this piece of pipe here, it's going to help
over

1477
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:50,060
there and help over there, or this is what
we can afford to do. And it's going to there's

1478
02:26:50,060 --> 02:26:57,060
many, many criteria. Obviously, it's number
of times of flood severity budgets, the, the,
the

1479
02:26:57,060 --> 02:27:01,020
amount of work, is it changing 100m of pipe
or changing three kilometers of pipe? There's
all

1480
02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:07,020
kinds of things that we have to look at. So
there's no clear. I can't tell you. We have
to look

1481
02:27:07,020 --> 02:27:11,020
at every project and we're starting to look
at them more and more in more detail. And

1482
02:27:11,020 --> 02:27:15,020
then we're going to make a list, and that's
going to the capital expenditure budget. And
then we

1483
02:27:15,020 --> 02:27:20,020
only have so much money. And we have to, you
know, we have other things we have to do too.

1484
02:27:20,020 --> 02:27:26,020
We still have to pay the bills and we still
have to, you know, so we have to try to fit
it in

1485
02:27:26,020 --> 02:27:30,020
to all that. And that's when, if you've been
here all night, we've had many, many meetings

1486
02:27:30,020 --> 02:27:33,020
around capital expenditure, budget and reallocating
money and increasing and cutting out

1487
02:27:33,020 --> 02:27:37,020
projects to prioritize water, water retention
plans, programs. So yeah, I don't have a I
can't

1488
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:42,020
give you an exact answer about what it is or
criteria because not a, B, C there's multiple

1489
02:27:42,020 --> 02:27:46,020
things that go into it. >> But but will we
see though, the fruits of that analysis

1490
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:51,020
when it comes time to applying the criteria
and you've landed at result A, B, and C in
that

1491
02:27:51,020 --> 02:27:56,020
order of priority, will there be transparency
from the city with respect to what criteria

1492
02:27:56,020 --> 02:27:59,020
apply and what weight there's. >> I don't think
I don't the criteria. There's nothing to

1493
02:27:59,020 --> 02:28:04,080
hide. We got nothing to hide. I mean, like
I told you, there's budgets, there's the size
of

1494
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:08,080
the job, there's all kinds of things. But yeah,
absolutely. I mean, we've had, we've had

1495
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:12,080
three meetings to try to keep the people up
to par about what's going on since November

1496
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:16,080
with the flooding. And you'll see the capital
expenditures, and you'll see every year that

1497
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:20,080
comes out and there's a list of all the projects
and you can ask questions. Why did that

1498
02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:24,080
project get. But we present the capital expenditures
to the public. And you can come and

1499
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:31,080
ask questions about it for sure. Absolutely.
Thank you, thank you.

1500
02:28:31,080 --> 02:29:06,040
>> Marianne. Not. >> Go to the next okay. >>
No.

1501
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:41,040
>> Well, maybe that'd be a good idea. >> Okay.
Madam. No. Okay. No.

1502
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:58,040
Okay. Merci. A Michelle nurse or Michael nurse.
Oh, perfect. No.

1503
02:29:58,040 --> 02:30:04,000
>> Hello, everybody. So I'm Claudine, and I'm
251 Saint Louis Avenue. Again, I'm not

1504
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:08,000
going to repeat what everybody's saying. I
think we're all on the same page. Our

1505
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:13,000
house is built in 86. It's been standing for
over 40 years. And since 2024 we've been there
for

1506
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:18,000
21 years. But we know that the previous owner
and we know we've never had issues with the

1507
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:22,000
house, we actually had a French drain and never
really knew what it was technically for

1508
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:27,000
when we bought the house, because we've never
had flooding issues or need to know

1509
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:31,000
what it was for because we never saw any water
accumulation. Fast forward. We

1510
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:38,000
had the three floods in 22 months. We did what
the city told us to do. We went to the

1511
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:43,000
meetings that explained to us what we had to
do in order to protect our homes. So we went

1512
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:50,000
to those meetings and we hired experts, and
we had the French trained inspected to make
sure

1513
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:56,000
it was okay. We had the backflow valve changed,
make sure that that was in defective.

1514
02:30:56,000 --> 02:31:01,060
We had not one, but two sump pumps installed
in the garage and next to the backflow valve

1515
02:31:01,060 --> 02:31:07,060
with additional backup pumps in case there
was no power. So after that second flood, we

1516
02:31:07,060 --> 02:31:13,060
thought we were foolproof and did not expect
this to be happening yet a third time. Now

1517
02:31:13,060 --> 02:31:18,060
I was up north as well when this happened.
Luckily, my husband was home and after

1518
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:23,060
watching the cameras for about an hour, started
realizing that hell was breaking again and

1519
02:31:23,060 --> 02:31:29,060
everything was flooded. So the street completely
flooded again. Yet again. And we are. Because

1520
02:31:29,060 --> 02:31:35,060
we do have a sloped driveway. The water comes
down from Delmar, it piles up and once it

1521
02:31:35,060 --> 02:31:40,060
reaches my driveway, stops right there. So
I saved the other houses. However, mine

1522
02:31:40,060 --> 02:31:45,060
gets hit and we did do the construction three
times. Well, this would be the third time

1523
02:31:45,060 --> 02:31:49,060
that we've started. So my question is because
I understand that you guys can't

1524
02:31:49,060 --> 02:31:53,060
do everything at once. And there's clearly
a lot of issues to be dealt with. I want to

1525
02:31:53,060 --> 02:32:00,020
know the Delmore, the Delmore work that has
been done, that was done, started in 2023 and

1526
02:32:00,020 --> 02:32:05,020
2024, from my understanding, from the 42 day,
Cano does coincide with a lot of problems

1527
02:32:05,020 --> 02:32:09,020
that we are having on Saint Louis. And my understanding
from tonight's meeting, Del Mar

1528
02:32:09,020 --> 02:32:15,020
as well, and I want to know if the city has
done basically an investigation to, you know,

1529
02:32:15,020 --> 02:32:20,020
like an engineering review, hydrological analysis
and post-construction assessment to

1530
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:25,020
see if there's a to determine basically this
correlation between what we're experiencing

1531
02:32:25,020 --> 02:32:30,020
now all of a sudden and this work that was
done, if yes, we want to know what the findings

1532
02:32:30,020 --> 02:32:35,020
are. And if not, I would like to know if the
city can commit to conducting such an

1533
02:32:35,020 --> 02:32:38,020
investigation and provide a timeline within
the next 12 months so that we can

1534
02:32:38,020 --> 02:32:43,020
understand where this water is from. Because
here I don't want to assign blame, but I need
to

1535
02:32:43,020 --> 02:32:47,020
figure out because I can't build my basement
yet again with no more insurance, knowing

1536
02:32:47,020 --> 02:32:52,020
that I'm going to have to rip it off two two
months after I'm done again and my family lives

1537
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:58,020
down there. We need that space. >> So I can
just tell you, first of all, we have not done

1538
02:32:58,020 --> 02:33:03,080
a study since the work has been done on Delmar
because it's a new street. And I mean, it's

1539
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:08,080
there shouldn't have been a problem. Right?
Can we do a hydraulic study and all this

1540
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:12,080
stuff that we're doing on many streets where
there's issues right now, we are doing them.
I

1541
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:18,080
don't know if Delmar is on that list. It's
something we'll have to look at down the road.
But

1542
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:23,080
can we get back to you on that and give you
an answer? I don't know if it's on the list,
if

1543
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:27,080
it's going to get put on the list. If we if
there's something we can look at,

1544
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:32,080
Mister or we're looking at. >> Yeah, I'll have
to get back to her. I'll have to get the

1545
02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:36,080
list. >> But we'll get back to you. Give us
a couple days, we'll

1546
02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:40,080
talk to engineering and we'll get back to you
for sure. >> Okay. And my follow up

1547
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:44,080
question would be that in the meantime, since
we can't fix this overnight and we do need

1548
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:49,080
to do repairs so that we can gain our home
back and have somewhat of a safety. Kansas

1549
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:53,080
City not put some kind of a temporary measure,
whether it's pumping the water out of the

1550
02:33:53,080 --> 02:33:57,080
the street on Saint Louis and Delmar. There's
a soccer park there. There's a little

1551
02:33:57,080 --> 02:34:00,040
roundabout on Saint Louis. There's some green
spaces that are there that are available.

1552
02:34:00,040 --> 02:34:05,040
And I'm sure that putting that water into some
of those lands, even my land, I wouldn't mind

1553
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:10,040
if it went on my grass because my grass stays
dry, my backyard is dry, the whole street on
my

1554
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:14,040
left and my neighbor behind is dry, and even
the pumps are pumping out to the back. But

1555
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:19,040
the water is is emptying. The whole street
is emptying into my house. I had two feet of

1556
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:22,040
water this time. Despite the two sump pumps,
despite the French drain, despite the new

1557
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:27,040
backflow valve, I can't lift my house of 20ft
in the air. There's no more options. So

1558
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:31,040
I've done my part. I understand that you guys
are doing all the research, but there's a problem

1559
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:35,040
there specifically, like a lot of areas. And
in the meantime, until this is resolved, having

1560
02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:39,040
some kind of a temporary measures, even if
it's these these walls that they deploy,

1561
02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:43,040
you know, these inflatable walls that can protect
the driveways to kind of create a

1562
02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:47,040
channel or pumping the water on these green
spaces, but have someone because right now
we

1563
02:34:47,040 --> 02:34:51,040
even have people just driving by. Nobody blocks
the street. We have to put our own cars

1564
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:55,040
there to block the street because people are
driving by and all you see is those

1565
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:58,040
beautiful waves coming into our house. People
might not understand what's going on, and

1566
02:34:58,040 --> 02:35:03,000
they're not realizing they're trying to get
home to their own house. But in the end, we're

1567
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:07,000
paying the price for it. So we need an emergency
plan in place to block the street, to pump

1568
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:12,000
the water out on grasses, on that green space,
or on the soccer park, wherever it is, to

1569
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:17,000
at least diminish the amount of water that
comes in so that the pumps that we put in and
that

1570
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:21,000
we spend that much money installing to save
our home, can actually have time to pump

1571
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:24,000
it out instead of having this rush of like,
flash flooding coming in.

1572
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:30,000
>> So I'm going to go back to will give us
a couple of days. We'll get back to you with
the.

1573
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:34,000
>> For the Donmar. >> Yeah, for Delmar and
I mean, it came up a lot tonight. So

1574
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:38,000
it's interesting. >> Clearly it's an issue.
>> For a lot of people there.

1575
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:42,000
So so you're not the only one. We've heard
some great stories, great stories, but some

1576
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:45,000
informative stories. So let's we'll get back
to you. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

1577
02:35:45,000 --> 02:36:03,060
>> Stephen Suey. >> Good evening. I have two
properties in. But I think it's

1578
02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:15,060
district seven and Canal Street. So both are
flooded in 2024 and 21. Flooded 2025 and 2026.
Both

1579
02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:24,060
are flooded again. When was the power? When
power is blacked out completely. So I don't

1580
02:36:24,060 --> 02:36:31,060
think the sump pump is one of the reasons.
Pump up the water completely from the basement.

1581
02:36:31,060 --> 02:36:43,060
But. Capacity of the of the storm drainage
that's caused the problem. So I heard a lot

1582
02:36:43,060 --> 02:36:51,060
of stories there before and listen, lots of
solutions. City proposed. I just want to say
we

1583
02:36:51,060 --> 02:36:59,060
want to work together. So for sure. So long
story short. So for, for for for consultation,

1584
02:36:59,060 --> 02:37:07,020
household by household. That's a good idea.
So just want to know if city have any

1585
02:37:07,020 --> 02:37:14,020
measurement for subsidized subsidized, any
improvement on, on, on the project we're going

1586
02:37:14,020 --> 02:37:22,020
to do going to further down because we, every
time we're, we're being damaged, we

1587
02:37:22,020 --> 02:37:30,020
insurance asking for improvement or proof of
a renovation we completed every

1588
02:37:30,020 --> 02:37:37,020
time. So that's the third time we have to do.
Should we do. Because lots of my homeowners.

1589
02:37:37,020 --> 02:37:43,020
It's already refused by the insurance company
to cover the basement. We don't want that

1590
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:51,020
situation come to us. You know, that's a that's
that's too terrible. So we just want to

1591
02:37:51,020 --> 02:37:58,020
see city do your part. Engineering department,
you know, get looking into it

1592
02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:04,080
because it seems a very bad thing for the past
two, three years.

1593
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:10,080
>> So we're looking into all that. Exactly
what you said. But we also asked about

1594
02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:15,080
financial assistance. 5.2 on the agenda. Yeah.
As of tomorrow morning, you'll be

1595
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:23,080
able to request for it. Yeah, up to $5,000
or 50% of your project. If you have to do

1596
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:33,080
stuff to your house, like a backflow valve,
like a backflow valve. Spring water garden,

1597
02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:38,080
French drain, all anything that would help
retain water from going into your house. You
can

1598
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:42,080
apply for financial assistance as of tomorrow
morning. >> Okay.

1599
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:46,080
>> That's great. That's only five up to $5,000.
>> Yeah. Up to okay.

1600
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:52,080
>> So sorry. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So obviously
on Dennis and you know, I know exactly

1601
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:56,080
where you are. Just reach out to me. I'll come
to your home. I'll give you a non

1602
02:38:56,080 --> 02:39:00,040
professional opinion. I'm pretty well versed
on what's going on. I'll explain to you

1603
02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:04,040
and your neighbors. >> Yeah, we, we. >> Reach
out to me and I'll be

1604
02:39:04,040 --> 02:39:07,040
more than happy to. >> Do that. Okay? Okay.
So because we already midnight, we

1605
02:39:07,040 --> 02:39:14,040
tried to borrow a generator to pump up the
water in the midnight because all all street

1606
02:39:14,040 --> 02:39:19,040
independent is blacked out completely, you
know? >> So can you dig it up? Like

1607
02:39:19,040 --> 02:39:23,040
meet him after or whatever then so we can get.
>> Yeah, hopefully, hopefully

1608
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:27,040
we can, we can find a solution eventually solve
it completely because we don't want the

1609
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:34,040
insurance company to come back to say we reject,
refuse you. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

1610
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:44,040
thank you. >> Elizabeth. Mario. >> Mr. Tang,
is there anybody

1611
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:48,040
else downstairs? There are more people downstairs.
>> Well, most of them. We've

1612
02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:52,040
asked them if they have questions to come up.
>> Okay, madam.

1613
02:39:52,040 --> 02:40:10,000
>> Elizabeth. Amarillo. Okay. Hans. Volstad.
>> All right. Hi. Good evening.

1614
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:14,000
You called me an hour 34 minutes ago. I guess
this is my my second chance. Do I get more

1615
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:17,000
time or. I'm still three minutes. >> Three
minutes.

1616
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:21,000
>> Everybody else. All right. Okay, so I'm
going to, I guess I've been coming here for
about

1617
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:26,000
a year now, trying to find out what is guiding
you in your decisions and in terms of where

1618
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:30,000
you're spending money, how you're going to
how you're going to fix things. There's

1619
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:35,000
been previous mayor was saying with, with green
infrastructure was going to fix everything.

1620
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:41,000
That was a no brainer, he said. So yeah. And
then along the way to ask, okay, when you decided

1621
02:40:41,000 --> 02:40:48,000
to do the, the Belmont Sponge Park, we asked
for what kind of benefits were going to come

1622
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:53,000
from that. And I guess you, you responded that
the benefits would be a good it would be

1623
02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:59,000
better. So, so not not really a very strong
number there, but okay, all of that going back
a

1624
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:06,060
year, you said we're going to be guided by
a report from the ETS. I asked about that a

1625
02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:11,060
couple of months ago. I thought it was due
in January. Now I was told it's due in June.
So

1626
02:41:11,060 --> 02:41:16,060
have we received that guiding report from the
ETS? >> First of all, Mr. Halstead,

1627
02:41:16,060 --> 02:41:21,060
I'd just like to explain that I think since
November, since I got in this seat, I think
we've

1628
02:41:21,060 --> 02:41:27,060
met maybe three times in the office. Twice.
Twice, twice with engineering, with the City

1629
02:41:27,060 --> 02:41:31,060
Council director general. And we've answered
and we've been and analyzed all.

1630
02:41:31,060 --> 02:41:35,060
>> We never I never asked that question the
last time we met or the time.

1631
02:41:35,060 --> 02:41:39,060
>> Before that. In general, we've met, we've
had lots of conversations about this. So

1632
02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:44,060
you made some statements about Belmont and
Sandalwood and the park. Well, I mean, we agree
or

1633
02:41:44,060 --> 02:41:49,060
not agree, the berm worked the other day, so
it stopped a lot of houses from flooding that

1634
02:41:49,060 --> 02:41:53,060
berm the other day on terrace. >> Yeah. It
worked well, apparently I've seen pictures

1635
02:41:53,060 --> 02:41:57,060
from it. Thank you. And it held back. >> As
far as the study goes. I

1636
02:41:57,060 --> 02:42:01,020
don't know if we got it yet. >> Nope. Not yet.
>> We haven't got it yet.

1637
02:42:01,020 --> 02:42:06,020
>> Are you asking about when you will receive
it? >> It it's this this summer

1638
02:42:06,020 --> 02:42:09,020
we're gonna. >> It would be this summer. >>
So this summer, not June.

1639
02:42:09,020 --> 02:42:16,020
Okay. All right. So no date. Thank you. Okay.
Second question then. It's not really

1640
02:42:16,020 --> 02:42:21,020
a question. I'm going to go back to Jennifer
Waugh was up here second about two hours ago,

1641
02:42:21,020 --> 02:42:28,020
I guess. And she asked about the the swales
or the pits, if you like in in zone two of
the

1642
02:42:28,020 --> 02:42:34,020
the sponge park. And I guess your answer was
we'll let them finish their work. Well, they

1643
02:42:34,020 --> 02:42:38,020
are finished their work in zone two. They've
taken down the fences. All the planting is

1644
02:42:38,020 --> 02:42:42,020
done. The whole. >> Project is not finished
yet. >> No, no. But the rest of the

1645
02:42:42,020 --> 02:42:46,020
project, if you're familiar with. Okay, if
you let me. >> Finish project, the whole

1646
02:42:46,020 --> 02:42:50,020
project ties into each other. >> No it doesn't.
That's independent. Her problem was

1647
02:42:50,020 --> 02:42:54,020
she was saying there's water at the bottom
of that basin that is not draining. The sponge
is

1648
02:42:54,020 --> 02:43:00,080
not sponging. All right, so the water is not
going down. It's going up. Right. So she raised

1649
02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:06,080
two points with that stagnant water and danger
from deep water permanently.

1650
02:43:06,080 --> 02:43:11,080
>> In place. >> Okay. And so I can think of
three things that you could do

1651
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:18,080
to alleviate that. One of the things is, and
only one of those things only addresses one

1652
02:43:18,080 --> 02:43:23,080
of the problems. And that's do a fence, right?
Because that does nothing for the stagnant

1653
02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:28,080
water. You still have the, there's two other
options you could have done. One of the

1654
02:43:28,080 --> 02:43:32,080
options would have been cheap if you had actually
done it. When it became obvious what the

1655
02:43:32,080 --> 02:43:37,080
problem was, which was two and a half weeks
ago, you could see that the water level, the
water

1656
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:41,080
was not going down, it was going up. You could
have done something cheap at the time.

1657
02:43:41,080 --> 02:43:46,080
That's too late now because it's being covered
up with grass and plantings and rocks,

1658
02:43:46,080 --> 02:43:51,080
so you sort of missed it. You missed a chance.
So why are you doing a fence when there are

1659
02:43:51,080 --> 02:43:56,080
other options you could do there? >> The defenses
in the plant,

1660
02:43:56,080 --> 02:44:00,040
right. >> It's not in the plan. No, no, no,
it was never there. That's

1661
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:05,040
a fix. >> It's a fix. >> No, the the fence
is part of

1662
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:09,040
the project. >> Fence is part of. Okay. Was
not part of the project at the

1663
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:12,040
time of bidding anyway. So that was added after
the the tender process.

1664
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:17,040
>> I can't I don't know, I don't know the tender
in front of me, but we were informed as

1665
02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:20,040
a fence going there. Anyway. Another question
sir. >> No, that was second question.

1666
02:44:20,040 --> 02:44:25,040
That's good. All right. So all right. So will
you get back on that? You've told me that I'm

1667
02:44:25,040 --> 02:44:28,040
wrong. >> We're going to look at now that you've
brought this up

1668
02:44:28,040 --> 02:44:32,040
about the swales and the stagnant water, we
have to take a look at it.

1669
02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:37,040
>> I mean, would you come would you want to
come by tomorrow? Do you have time to come
by?

1670
02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:41,040
I'll show you what the problem is. >> I, I
have to I don't have my

1671
02:44:41,040 --> 02:44:46,040
phone with me to check my agenda, but I can
if you want to call the office tomorrow

1672
02:44:46,040 --> 02:44:51,040
morning. I don't have my. I know my agenda
with me, but I can we can I can reach out to

1673
02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:55,040
you tomorrow, or I can wait till your counselor.
>> In town. I'm very available.

1674
02:44:55,040 --> 02:44:58,040
So you have my number and email. Yeah. >> Thank
you. I will thank you.

1675
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:20,000
>> Demetrios beaches. No, Dimitrios. Business?
No. Frank. Frank. Sombrero. No. Hou

1676
02:45:20,000 --> 02:45:56,000
junfeng. Monsieur. Madame. Feng. >> Maybe this.
>> No. Arshad. Jilani. Sorry,

1677
02:45:56,000 --> 02:46:15,060
he did advise. No, I don't have more names.
>> How many more? That's it.

1678
02:46:15,060 --> 02:46:23,060
Okay. Well, I think we're safe to say we can
go to the agenda. Oh, he is here. Okay.

1679
02:46:23,060 --> 02:46:29,060
>> He just stepped out for a second. And we
have enough. Fine. But I.

1680
02:46:29,060 --> 02:47:03,020
>> Arrive, we arrive. Here we go. How are you,
sir? >> I'm fine, thank you.

1681
02:47:03,020 --> 02:47:08,020
>> You almost missed your time. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. >> Wrong timing.

1682
02:47:08,020 --> 02:47:15,020
>> Okay. >> Let's go. So my questions are very
quick. You said that

1683
02:47:15,020 --> 02:47:25,020
changing the pipe from smaller diameter to
the larger for the drainage takes approval,
like

1684
02:47:25,020 --> 02:47:31,020
three years. So where do we stand right now?
Like countdown of.

1685
02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:37,020
>> I didn't understand the question. Approval
for. >> For changing the drainage

1686
02:47:37,020 --> 02:47:41,020
pipe. >> Oh, okay. I was talking earlier when
we wanted, for

1687
02:47:41,020 --> 02:47:45,020
instance, there's an area that we were looking
at. We wanted to enlarge the pipe. Yes.

1688
02:47:45,020 --> 02:47:51,020
Because we. Anyway, it was going to help a
situation, but we weren't allowed to because

1689
02:47:51,020 --> 02:47:55,020
the. A lot of the water pipes are controlled
by Montreal, so they have to sign off on it.
It

1690
02:47:55,020 --> 02:48:00,080
could take 18 months to two years to get the
okay on that. It just goes to show you how

1691
02:48:00,080 --> 02:48:04,080
much time some things take. Sometimes other
things we can do right away. But there are

1692
02:48:04,080 --> 02:48:09,080
certain scenarios where things take time. It's
complicated. >> So when did we started the

1693
02:48:09,080 --> 02:48:15,080
request? What date we started? >> We just we're
just looking at it now.

1694
02:48:15,080 --> 02:48:19,080
>> Looking at it. >> We're looking where we
we, we we're analyzing it now. But

1695
02:48:19,080 --> 02:48:23,080
we've been told that if we want to go that
way, that's the process. Then that's how long

1696
02:48:23,080 --> 02:48:32,080
it would take. >> Okay. So we have initiated
the process. Yes. So from now,

1697
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:39,080
if we calculate it will be. >> But that's only
I don't know. Is it one pipe in one? One

1698
02:48:39,080 --> 02:48:44,080
street is not changing all the pipes in the
city. It's one pipe on one street for a

1699
02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:49,080
particular problem. You understand? >> Oh my
God.

1700
02:48:49,080 --> 02:48:55,080
>> That's what it is. It's this street here
has a pipe. We want to enlarge a section of
it to

1701
02:48:55,080 --> 02:48:59,080
alleviate. And that is not changing all the
pipes in the city. It's changing one pipe on

1702
02:48:59,080 --> 02:49:04,140
one street. You can take that long. That's
how complicated when people want us to react

1703
02:49:04,140 --> 02:49:08,140
and do things. I'm just trying to make an example
how hard it can be sometimes, how

1704
02:49:08,140 --> 02:49:15,140
complicated it can be. >> Okay, my second question
is that, as you also mentioned,

1705
02:49:15,140 --> 02:49:26,140
that we are giving away 58% of our revenue
to the city of Montreal. So do we have a

1706
02:49:26,140 --> 02:49:32,140
transparency how they are spending, how much
they are spending on which services?

1707
02:49:32,140 --> 02:49:36,140
>> Yeah, absolutely. It's all documented. Go
online. You can see where all the money goes.

1708
02:49:36,140 --> 02:49:40,140
They know we know exactly where it's going.
Are they being efficient with it? That's

1709
02:49:40,140 --> 02:49:44,140
another story. But we know where it's going.
It goes to the fire. It goes to the police.

1710
02:49:44,140 --> 02:49:48,140
It goes to public transit. It goes to water.
That's the main the four major things.

1711
02:49:48,140 --> 02:49:54,140
>> How much amount wise. >> $106 million. 25.
$28 million to police, 20 some odd

1712
02:49:54,140 --> 02:49:58,140
million to fire. It's all documented. Don't
have the numbers right in front of me.

1713
02:49:58,140 --> 02:50:03,200
It's all there. It's all public. The problem
is we don't get what we pay for. That's the

1714
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:06,200
biggest problem. >> Can we reduce that? We'd
love to.

1715
02:50:06,200 --> 02:50:10,200
>> We've been trying for 21 years. We've been
trying. Okay, so and we're still trying today.

1716
02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:15,200
There's a lot of stuff going on in the back
rooms. We don't talk about it every day, but

1717
02:50:15,200 --> 02:50:19,200
there's something going. We have an association
and yes, we're asking. We're trying to.

1718
02:50:19,200 --> 02:50:23,200
The new mayor of Montreal has told us she would
sit down with us and understand it, which is

1719
02:50:23,200 --> 02:50:28,200
a good thing because we never had that before.
And so I'm hoping that within the next 6

1720
02:50:28,200 --> 02:50:32,200
to 8 months, she's promised to meet with us
before the new budget comes out, and hopefully

1721
02:50:32,200 --> 02:50:36,200
we will have something that she'll understand
what we're up against and kind of increase
by

1722
02:50:36,200 --> 02:50:42,200
18 and $20 million a year. We just can't afford
it anymore. >> Okay. All right. Thank you

1723
02:50:42,200 --> 02:50:47,200
very much. >> Thank you. Good night. Okay.
We can go to the agenda now,

1724
02:50:47,200 --> 02:51:45,260
please. Thank you guys. Thank you for being
so patient. >> En fonction de son

1725
02:51:45,260 --> 02:52:01,320
utilization. Pour les besoins des municipalités
de. >> District six. Thank you.

1726
02:52:01,320 --> 02:52:04,320
>> 5.2 adoption of a bylaw establishing a financial
assistance program for storm

1727
02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:09,320
water management on private residential property.
The bylaw aims to establish a financial

1728
02:52:09,320 --> 02:52:12,320
assistance program to encourage residential
property owners to implement sustainable

1729
02:52:12,320 --> 02:52:17,320
stormwater management measures directly on
the property. This program addresses the increased

1730
02:52:17,320 --> 02:52:21,320
frequency of rainfall events linked to climate
change, with a view to reducing strain on

1731
02:52:21,320 --> 02:52:26,320
the sewage network and the risk of flooding.
It targets all single and two dwelling

1732
02:52:26,320 --> 02:52:30,320
residential properties within the city territory,
commercial and industrial buildings, as

1733
02:52:30,320 --> 02:52:34,320
well as buildings with three or more dwellings,
are therefore excluded. The bylaw provides

1734
02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:39,320
that the city may may retain the services of
an external firm to carry out evaluation

1735
02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:43,320
visits to properties in order to diagnose drainage
problems and recommend the most

1736
02:52:43,320 --> 02:52:48,320
appropriate measures. Financial assistance
can cover up to 50% of the cost of eligible
works,

1737
02:52:48,320 --> 02:52:55,320
including the city's mandatory evaluation,
up to a maximum of $5,000 per property over
a five

1738
02:52:55,320 --> 02:52:58,320
year period. The program covers various technical
and landscaping measures, including

1739
02:52:58,320 --> 02:53:05,380
backflow valves, roof drains, sealing of water
inlets, catch basins and foundation drains,

1740
02:53:05,380 --> 02:53:11,380
rain gardens, permeable surfaces, rainwater
harvesting barrels, disconnection of

1741
02:53:11,380 --> 02:53:15,380
gutters and correcting of ground slopes. >>
Do you have a mover and

1742
02:53:15,380 --> 02:53:22,380
seconder for 5.2, please? >> Kelly Thorstad
Cullen, district three.

1743
02:53:22,380 --> 02:53:27,380
>> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski, district
four. And if I can just speak

1744
02:53:27,380 --> 02:53:32,380
just briefly to. I just want to say that I
think this is a very good program that's been
put

1745
02:53:32,380 --> 02:53:37,380
together. I want to thank my fellow members
of council, the mayor and the city manager
for

1746
02:53:37,380 --> 02:53:42,380
their work on it. But I do think it's important
to stress, as we've sort of mentioned,

1747
02:53:42,380 --> 02:53:47,380
that there should be some openness to allowing
it to evolve in the future in

1748
02:53:47,380 --> 02:53:53,380
response to the concerns that citizens bring
to us. And I think in particular, after.

1749
02:53:53,380 --> 02:53:58,380
Well, while the priorities to adopt it now,
to get the money out of the door quickly, I

1750
02:53:58,380 --> 02:54:02,440
think in the long run, we do need to look at
perhaps expanding it to townhouses of

1751
02:54:02,440 --> 02:54:06,440
the types that you have on Hymas and Greenwich
or on Donegani, which may be

1752
02:54:06,440 --> 02:54:12,440
considered multi-family under terms of the
bylaw. But where I think there could be a useful

1753
02:54:12,440 --> 02:54:17,440
way of expanding it. All right. Thank you.
>> Mr. Mayor. Just just on that

1754
02:54:17,440 --> 02:54:25,440
note, 1 to 2 unit dwellings are eligible. So
the townhouses. >> Not not the condominiums
of

1755
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:30,440
the kinds that are at Greenwich, like the 28
Union at Prima, for example. So that would
be what

1756
02:54:30,440 --> 02:54:37,440
I would be referring to. Okay. >> Thank you,
thank you. All in favor, please. Thank you.

1757
02:54:37,440 --> 02:54:47,440
>> 6.1 this is. A commercial village of Pointe-Claire.
>> And 6.2 to grant financial

1758
02:54:47,440 --> 02:54:56,440
support for a total amount of $1,000 to the
Royal Canadian Legion branch, 57 Pointe Claire.

1759
02:54:56,440 --> 02:55:10,500
>> Festival of Blues, West Island. Association.
Communautaire. Alphabetization

1760
02:55:10,500 --> 02:55:15,500
Sinemet et perspective. Communautaire unsentimental.
>> And 6.4 to authorize the

1761
02:55:15,500 --> 02:55:18,500
participation of four members of Council at
the 16th edition of the golf tournament

1762
02:55:18,500 --> 02:55:23,500
organized by the tourist de la Palliative Care
Residence, to be held on August 31st, 2026.

1763
02:55:23,500 --> 02:55:27,500
The members of council authorized by this resolution
are Mayor John Belvedere, as

1764
02:55:27,500 --> 02:55:31,500
well as councilors Kelly Thorstad Cullen, Eric
Stork and Mike Potvin.

1765
02:55:31,500 --> 02:55:37,500
>> Mover and seconder, for 6.1 to 6.4, please.
>> Council district.

1766
02:55:37,500 --> 02:55:42,500
>> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district seven.
>> All in favor?

1767
02:55:42,500 --> 02:55:52,500
>> Said. The circulation. >> And 7.2 appoint
members to the Youth Advisory Board. The

1768
02:55:52,500 --> 02:55:55,500
following new members are appointed for the
period from September 1st, 2026 to August

1769
02:55:55,500 --> 02:56:02,560
31st, 2027. Tristan Crawford, Danielle Akinfenwa,
a Lara Alderman.

1770
02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:06,560
>> Gavin moved and seconded for 7.2, please.
>> Kelly Thorstad Cullen,

1771
02:56:06,560 --> 02:56:10,560
District 12. >> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district
seven.

1772
02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:23,560
>> All in favor? Thank you. >> This. Point
six. >> And 10.2 acceptance of a

1773
02:56:23,560 --> 02:56:27,560
donation of artwork, which is the portrait
of May Beatrice Stewart and the issuance of
a

1774
02:56:27,560 --> 02:56:31,560
tax receipt. This is the portrait of May Beatrice
Stewart, a work by Randolph

1775
02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:36,560
Stanley Hutton donated by Alexandra Debater,
daughter of Diana Stewart. The artwork

1776
02:56:36,560 --> 02:56:40,560
holds significant historical heritage and cultural
value in connection with Stewart Hall.

1777
02:56:40,560 --> 02:56:44,560
An independent appraisal of the artwork was
conducted to establish its fair value market,

1778
02:56:44,560 --> 02:56:55,560
which is estimated at $25,000. >> This point
represents. Des entreprises du Québec,

1779
02:56:55,560 --> 02:57:01,620
representing Madame Julie Robinson and Monsieur
Daniel Seguin du service des finances.

1780
02:57:01,620 --> 02:57:07,620
>> For 10.2, 10.3, 10.4. >> Please know we
didn't do 10.40.

1781
02:57:07,620 --> 02:57:12,620
>> Sorry. >> Thank you. >> District six.

1782
02:57:12,620 --> 02:57:19,620
>> Second by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight.
>> All in favor? Thank you.

1783
02:57:19,620 --> 02:57:23,620
>> 10.4 to authorize a budget amendment of
$60,000 to support the implementation of a

1784
02:57:23,620 --> 02:57:27,620
permanent public artwork at Edgewater Park,
in accordance with the city's ongoing public

1785
02:57:27,620 --> 02:57:31,620
art initiatives and project planning timelines.
The installation of the artwork is

1786
02:57:31,620 --> 02:57:39,620
scheduled for the fall of 2026. >> A mover
and seconder for 10.4.

1787
02:57:39,620 --> 02:57:43,620
>> District six. >> Mike Bloodvein, district
eight.

1788
02:57:43,620 --> 02:57:50,620
>> I'd like to speak to this one. Just I'm
gonna be voting against this one. I'm not

1789
02:57:50,620 --> 02:58:00,680
against the principle of public art, but on
the same basis that earlier this year I voted

1790
02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:08,680
against the $5.8 million that was spent on
the aquatic center locker rooms, because I
believe

1791
02:58:08,680 --> 02:58:14,680
that it should have been invested in road work
and flood mitigation. I'm kind of

1792
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:19,680
symbolically voting against this one to send
the same general message that we need to

1793
02:58:19,680 --> 02:58:26,680
think about restraint in places where we can
reallocate funds to go to. I think the

1794
02:58:26,680 --> 02:58:30,680
priorities that are that are more urgent. And
I mean, why choose this one? It's a smaller

1795
02:58:30,680 --> 02:58:35,680
amount. There's a lot of things that are small
amounts as well. I think it is one that sends
a

1796
02:58:35,680 --> 02:58:46,680
message. And visually, I would just note that
it essentially consists of sending. A metal

1797
02:58:46,680 --> 02:58:51,680
pipe about seven feet into the air. That's,
that's what the sculpture essentially is. And
I

1798
02:58:51,680 --> 02:58:55,680
look at that and get the impression that most
people would look at it and think that

1799
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:59,680
we should be building more of them under the
ground. So that's my reason for

1800
02:58:59,680 --> 02:59:03,740
identifying this one specifically. Thank you.
So thank you.

1801
02:59:03,740 --> 02:59:08,740
>> Just a comment regarding the the public
art. I sit on the the public Art committee,
the

1802
02:59:08,740 --> 02:59:14,740
public Art Committee spends a great amount
of time working on these various projects.
The

1803
02:59:14,740 --> 02:59:21,740
establishment of the budget was made several
months ago. A hearing. The comments made by

1804
02:59:21,740 --> 02:59:28,740
Councilor Swidsinski encourages me a great
deal as public art is designed to. To wake
up the

1805
02:59:28,740 --> 02:59:33,740
population, to stimulate thought and ideas
and controversies. So I think it's

1806
02:59:33,740 --> 02:59:39,740
doing its job quite effectively. And I sympathize
with your symbolic vote, Mr. Swidsinski,

1807
02:59:39,740 --> 02:59:44,740
and I think we can start working together on
perhaps looking at another way of

1808
02:59:44,740 --> 02:59:48,740
approaching this important thing. >> Okay.
Thank you boys, let's

1809
02:59:48,740 --> 02:59:53,740
move on. >> We need a vote, though. >> Oh,
yeah. Okay, so 10.4

1810
02:59:53,740 --> 02:59:58,740
mover and secondary, please. Ten four. Oh,
no. Sorry. >> Ten four two vote. Just the

1811
02:59:58,740 --> 03:00:03,800
vote. Just the vote. >> So who's in favor of
ten? >> Four one.

1812
03:00:03,800 --> 03:00:10,800
>> Thank you. Who's against? Thank you. >>
Thank you.

1813
03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:25,800
>> At this point. For the acquisition of. >>
10.6 to award a contract for

1814
03:00:25,800 --> 03:00:29,800
the purchase of Genetec licenses for five years
to secure max system for a total

1815
03:00:29,800 --> 03:00:37,800
amount of $121,413.38. Taxes included. Genetec
camera licenses enable each camera to

1816
03:00:37,800 --> 03:00:41,800
be integrated into the video management system.
They provide access to essential features

1817
03:00:41,800 --> 03:00:46,800
such as recording, live viewing, event management,
and centralized administration.

1818
03:00:46,800 --> 03:01:09,860
>> At this point. The. Logistics for. An option.
>> Seconder for 10.5, 10.6 and

1819
03:01:09,860 --> 03:01:14,860
10.7, please. >> District six. >> Second by
Mike.

1820
03:01:14,860 --> 03:01:21,860
>> District eight. >> All in favor? Thank you.
>> So.

1821
03:01:21,860 --> 03:01:25,860
>> 1111.1 is the filing of certificates of
completion for the mandatory training

1822
03:01:25,860 --> 03:01:27,860
concerning the municipal system in accordance
with the regulation respecting the

1823
03:01:27,860 --> 03:01:32,860
training of elected municipal officers, Council
members must, within nine months of the start

1824
03:01:32,860 --> 03:01:36,860
of their term, complete at least 7.5 hours
of eligible training covering the following

1825
03:01:36,860 --> 03:01:42,860
topics the functioning of the local and regional
municipality and of municipal council

1826
03:01:42,860 --> 03:01:47,860
relations between the municipalities, political
and administrative bodies, budget

1827
03:01:47,860 --> 03:01:56,860
management, municipal finances and taxation,
and land use. Planning and development.

1828
03:01:56,860 --> 03:02:07,920
>> Avec les propriétaires propriétaires.
ET. Zero cadastre of Quebec. Correspond

1829
03:02:07,920 --> 03:02:15,920
or sector. ET sur le Boulevard Brunswick, avec
la ville de Vienne, Propriétaire du

1830
03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:35,920
Boulevard, Brunswick et Hermitage, donnant
sur le Boulevard, Brunswick de la. 0.6

1831
03:02:35,920 --> 03:02:47,920
de tolerance qui sera avec des propriétés
au sujet de six zero qui se trouvent. L'acces
aux

1832
03:02:47,920 --> 03:02:58,920
stationnement souterraines et au. Sans aucun
guarantee de qualité et de la société pour

1833
03:02:58,920 --> 03:03:07,980
les personnels du vendeur. >> And seconder
for 11.2 plus. >> District six.

1834
03:03:07,980 --> 03:03:15,980
>> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski district.
>> All in favor? Thank you.

1835
03:03:15,980 --> 03:03:20,980
>> 12.1 to file the list of delegated staff
changes for the month of July 2020.

1836
03:03:20,980 --> 03:03:26,980
>> 6.3 approve. 11, six. >> And 12 point. >>
So go ahead. Go ahead. We'll

1837
03:03:26,980 --> 03:03:31,980
do okay. Go ahead. >> And 12.113 to approve
the draft. Pointe Claire blue

1838
03:03:31,980 --> 03:03:34,980
collar collective agreement applicable for
the period of January 1st, 2024 to December

1839
03:03:34,980 --> 03:03:39,980
31st, 2029. The document resolves recurring
issues with the application of the previous

1840
03:03:39,980 --> 03:03:43,980
collective agreement and is fair to both parties.
It is consistent with our strategic

1841
03:03:43,980 --> 03:03:47,980
plan and is part of a sustainable development
approach for the organization.

1842
03:03:47,980 --> 03:03:53,980
>> Seconded for 12.2 and 12.3, please. >> Mike.

1843
03:03:53,980 --> 03:04:04,040
>> District are. >> All in favor. Thank you.
>> Collaboration avec le center

1844
03:04:04,040 --> 03:04:16,040
de la ville de. Qui NE sont plus utiles pour
des. Équipements sont remplacé par

1845
03:04:16,040 --> 03:04:21,040
des équivalents plus récents. >> 14.2 to
authorize the participation of the City of

1846
03:04:21,040 --> 03:04:26,040
Pointe Claire and the group purchased for the
2026 2027 winter season. For the call for

1847
03:04:26,040 --> 03:04:30,040
tenders prepared by the City of Montreal, for
the supply and delivery of winter abrasives

1848
03:04:30,040 --> 03:04:34,040
and deicing salt. In order to benefit from
advantageous financial conditions. The city

1849
03:04:34,040 --> 03:04:38,040
wishes to join this group purchasing agreement
with the City of Montreal to procure

1850
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:41,040
deicing salt >> Required for its operations.
The approximate annual quantity

1851
03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:45,040
is about 6000 tons, but may vary upward or
downward depending on weather conditions

1852
03:04:45,040 --> 03:04:51,040
for the sake of administrative efficiency.
Should annual requirements exceed 6006 6000

1853
03:04:51,040 --> 03:05:00,100
tons, this quantity may be increased provided
that the necessary funds are available.

1854
03:05:00,100 --> 03:05:12,100
>> For automobile. >> And. 14.4 to exercise
a renewal option provided for in

1855
03:05:12,100 --> 03:05:19,100
the contract entered into with Service Inc.
for the year 2026 and the amount of $42,894.87

1856
03:05:19,100 --> 03:05:23,100
taxes included for Arboricultural works on
the shores of Lake Saint Louis, as

1857
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:30,100
well as tree pruning works along the streets
in anticipation of snow removal.

1858
03:05:30,100 --> 03:05:49,100
>> Dans la Boissiere du Parc Cedar Park Heights
at orange. De la Cote de mécanique des

1859
03:05:49,100 --> 03:05:58,100
plus gros, lorsque des souches de plus de six
centimeters la zone avec des arbres indigenes

1860
03:05:58,100 --> 03:06:05,160
l'ensemble des bases. >> 14.6 over the contract
for the treatment of ash trees by

1861
03:06:05,160 --> 03:06:10,160
injection on the public and private domains
for the 2026 season. To be controller Inc.

1862
03:06:10,160 --> 03:06:16,160
with the 2027 season in option, this contract
covers ash trees on both public and private

1863
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:19,160
property. The treatment of trees on private
property remains at the discretion of

1864
03:06:19,160 --> 03:06:24,160
each individual owner, and the contract is
valued at $130,000. >> Do you have a mover
and

1865
03:06:24,160 --> 03:06:30,160
secondary for 14.1 through 14.6? >> Andrew
Swidsinski, district four.

1866
03:06:30,160 --> 03:06:33,160
>> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district
two.

1867
03:06:33,160 --> 03:07:03,220
>> All in favor? Thank you. >> Can you spare
the. Tax for. Pointe-Claire. Oliver. Urquhart.

1868
03:07:03,220 --> 03:07:12,220
Les. Besoins. Sont. Les. Inspections. Hebdomadaires
et de la qualité de avec un

1869
03:07:12,220 --> 03:07:19,220
rapport produit. >> 15.2. Exercise. The Renewal
of exercise. The renewal option

1870
03:07:19,220 --> 03:07:25,220
provided for. In the contract entered into.
With Group Inc. for the period of August 1st,

1871
03:07:25,220 --> 03:07:32,220
2026 to July 31st, 2027 in the amount of $35,975.68.
Taxes included for extermination

1872
03:07:32,220 --> 03:07:36,220
services for the City of Pointe-Claire. This
contract provides for a monthly service

1873
03:07:36,220 --> 03:07:39,220
for various buildings concerning the supply
of groundhog cages, as well as

1874
03:07:39,220 --> 03:07:51,220
pest, vermin and rodent control and extermination
services. >> And installation of. A

1875
03:07:51,220 --> 03:08:00,280
construction. Tax. >> Includes moved and seconded
for 15.1 through 15.3.

1876
03:08:00,280 --> 03:08:05,280
>> Eric Stewart, district seven. >> Second
by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight.

1877
03:08:05,280 --> 03:08:14,280
>> All in favor? Thank you. >> 16.1 to award
a contract for the stabilization of the slope

1878
03:08:14,280 --> 03:08:19,280
in the wetland area of Waverly Woods. Phase
two to Les Entreprises Ventech, Inc. for a

1879
03:08:19,280 --> 03:08:26,280
total amount of $136,670.78, taxes included.
The work consists of constructing a

1880
03:08:26,280 --> 03:08:30,280
vegetated rockfill to support the wetland banks
along the length of 34m near the

1881
03:08:30,280 --> 03:08:35,280
residence, located at 28 Waverly Avenue and
creating basins in the center. Planting

1882
03:08:35,280 --> 03:08:40,280
works are also required to help maintain the
existing natural environment.

1883
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:58,280
>> Six point. ET sanitaire des diverse pour
la pour un monton de. Modification contre le

1884
03:08:58,280 --> 03:09:07,340
controle original. Malheureusement. >> Have
a mover and seconder

1885
03:09:07,340 --> 03:09:14,340
for 16.116.2. >> District one. >> Ludovic Matthews,
District.

1886
03:09:14,340 --> 03:09:25,340
>> All in favor? Thank you. >> So for 17.1,
17.4, 17, 11, 17, 13 and 1714, the persons

1887
03:09:25,340 --> 03:09:39,340
present may address council on those items
by all means. Merci. >> Good evening again.
My name

1888
03:09:39,340 --> 03:09:45,340
is Amanda Francis. I live at 107 Lakeshore
and I'm in district two. Today I'd like to

1889
03:09:45,340 --> 03:09:53,340
address the agenda point of 17.14, which are
the minor exemptions related to the

1890
03:09:53,340 --> 03:09:59,340
property at 106 Lakeshore. Specifically those
related to the above ground surface area

1891
03:09:59,340 --> 03:10:04,400
and vehicle access. So my husband and I moved
into our home last May, just a month

1892
03:10:04,400 --> 03:10:09,400
before welcoming our daughter. So although
I've only been in that house for one year,
I've

1893
03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:13,400
actually been in the neighborhood my whole
life. I grew up around the corner on

1894
03:10:13,400 --> 03:10:17,400
Lakeview. It's always been a priority of mine
to return to this neighborhood just because

1895
03:10:17,400 --> 03:10:22,400
I loved it so much growing up. Pointe-Claire,
especially district two, is a unique

1896
03:10:22,400 --> 03:10:26,400
neighborhood thanks to its historic and unique
homes, the mature trees and greenery, and

1897
03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:31,400
the waterfront. I know this, as I said, I know
this from growing up here, but it only

1898
03:10:31,400 --> 03:10:36,400
takes someone an afternoon of visiting to truly
appreciate how special of a place it is.

1899
03:10:36,400 --> 03:10:41,400
With the 2021 amendment to the Cultural Heritage
Act of Quebec, which we mentioned earlier this

1900
03:10:41,400 --> 03:10:47,400
evening, cities created inventories of all
homes built before 1940, which includes

1901
03:10:47,400 --> 03:10:52,400
this property in question. These amendments
and lists were implemented to highlight and

1902
03:10:52,400 --> 03:10:58,400
protect older homes in the Montreal area and
in the province. In doing this, by

1903
03:10:58,400 --> 03:11:03,460
adding this house to the list, the City of
Pointe-Claire recognizes that this is a

1904
03:11:03,460 --> 03:11:08,460
special property. The Cultural Heritage Act,
the heritage report commissioned for this

1905
03:11:08,460 --> 03:11:12,460
property, and the demolition committee's conditions,
which I'll get into in a little in a

1906
03:11:12,460 --> 03:11:18,460
moment, all recognized that any replacement
project must respect the historic character

1907
03:11:18,460 --> 03:11:23,460
and built environment of this neighborhood.
My question before council today is whether

1908
03:11:23,460 --> 03:11:28,460
you can say with confidence that the proposed
replacement project and the related

1909
03:11:28,460 --> 03:11:32,460
exemptions reflect those same principles. As
the mayor highlighted earlier this

1910
03:11:32,460 --> 03:11:36,460
evening, we'll be photographing historic homes
throughout the city this summer. Do we really

1911
03:11:36,460 --> 03:11:40,460
want to photograph a historic home, only to
tear it down and replace it with a structure

1912
03:11:40,460 --> 03:11:45,460
that, as it stands, bears absolutely no resemblance
to what is there today. The house

1913
03:11:45,460 --> 03:11:51,460
at 106 Lakeshore was built in 1900, making
it one of the oldest remaining homes in the

1914
03:11:51,460 --> 03:11:55,460
area. In fact, it predates the incorporation
of the city of Pointe-Claire, which happened

1915
03:11:55,460 --> 03:12:01,520
in 1911, and the construction of Stuart Hall,
which we just discussed how it is an integral

1916
03:12:01,520 --> 03:12:06,520
part of the Pointe-Claire history. So it lastly
sits beside the Maison de Gaulle,

1917
03:12:06,520 --> 03:12:13,520
one of the oldest homes on the island of Montreal,
built in the 1700s. In September 2025,

1918
03:12:13,520 --> 03:12:18,520
the demolition committee did approve the demolition
of this property, but with important

1919
03:12:18,520 --> 03:12:23,520
conditions that I feel need highlighting. Tonight,
the replacement project was

1920
03:12:23,520 --> 03:12:28,520
required to give greater consideration to,
and I quote, the immediate and surrounding

1921
03:12:28,520 --> 03:12:34,520
built environment, particularly with respect
to siting, height and massing, the preservation

1922
03:12:34,520 --> 03:12:39,520
and enhancement of the existing heritage context,
ensuring its special characters maintained

1923
03:12:39,520 --> 03:12:44,520
through the integration and incorporation of
architectural elements that reference the

1924
03:12:44,520 --> 03:12:49,520
building being demolished. And third, the surrounding
built environment characterized by

1925
03:12:49,520 --> 03:12:54,520
houses sited close to the street, limited impervious
surface coverage and driveway

1926
03:12:54,520 --> 03:12:59,520
width, and natural landscaped front yards.
The exemptions before council today should

1927
03:12:59,520 --> 03:13:05,580
raise serious concerns because they appear
to be in direct conflict with all of these

1928
03:13:05,580 --> 03:13:09,580
objectives, it is clear no effort has been
made to update the plans to reference the

1929
03:13:09,580 --> 03:13:16,580
house being demolished. I also find it's helpful
to look at the numbers. The existing house

1930
03:13:16,580 --> 03:13:23,580
has an above ground area of approximately 239m².
The minor exemption is requesting an area

1931
03:13:23,580 --> 03:13:30,580
of 428m². That's 80% larger than the current
home and significantly larger than the

1932
03:13:30,580 --> 03:13:35,580
neighboring properties, including my own. How
does this reflect the heritage of the

1933
03:13:35,580 --> 03:13:39,580
current home? How does this address the condition
related to massing and height? It is

1934
03:13:39,580 --> 03:13:47,580
also 11% above the maximum permitted area.
How is this considered minor? Another

1935
03:13:47,580 --> 03:13:53,580
exemption request is for a driveway width of
ten meters, a whopping 64% above the 6.1

1936
03:13:53,580 --> 03:13:59,580
limit. Can we really consider that as minor?
No houses in the area have driveways that width.

1937
03:13:59,580 --> 03:14:05,640
How does this. How is this considered in the
surrounding built environment? What house

1938
03:14:05,640 --> 03:14:12,640
from the 1900s has a three car driveway? These
are substantial increases, and I would ask
the

1939
03:14:12,640 --> 03:14:16,640
council to consider whether these should truly
be considered as minor exemptions.

1940
03:14:16,640 --> 03:14:20,640
Do these honestly address the conditions presented
by the demolition committee in

1941
03:14:20,640 --> 03:14:26,640
September? Lastly, there is an important environmental
consideration consideration

1942
03:14:26,640 --> 03:14:30,640
with recent flooding events and increasingly
intense rainfall that has been discussed at

1943
03:14:30,640 --> 03:14:35,640
length tonight, preserving permeable ground
surfaces should be a priority in city

1944
03:14:35,640 --> 03:14:41,640
and residential planning. Grass, mature trees
and natural landscaping are not just

1945
03:14:41,640 --> 03:14:45,640
esthetic features, they are part of the infrastructure
that helps absorb stormwater and

1946
03:14:45,640 --> 03:14:49,640
protect our homes. The surrounding properties
demonstrate that it is possible

1947
03:14:49,640 --> 03:14:53,640
to build and renovate, while maintaining the
ground space that defines this neighborhood.

1948
03:14:53,640 --> 03:14:58,640
I would like to note that in all of the flood
discussions this evening, I did not hear a

1949
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:05,700
complaint from district two. So obviously something
is working in our area. Pointe-Claire is

1950
03:15:05,700 --> 03:15:10,700
325 years of history, mature landscape, natural
landscape, and unique character are among

1951
03:15:10,700 --> 03:15:15,700
its greatest assets. Large scale developments
that don't respect these characteristics,

1952
03:15:15,700 --> 03:15:20,700
risk changing the very qualities that make
this area what it is. These exemption

1953
03:15:20,700 --> 03:15:24,700
requests will undermine the province's efforts
to protect older homes, and will devalue

1954
03:15:24,700 --> 03:15:29,700
the designation of a heritage home. This council
has the opportunity and responsibility

1955
03:15:29,700 --> 03:15:34,700
to preserve these qualities today and for future
generations. I ask that you

1956
03:15:34,700 --> 03:15:39,700
please consider these points when making your
decision tonight. Thank you.

1957
03:15:39,700 --> 03:15:47,700
>> Thank you. >> So. 17.1 consider a minor
exemption request concerning

1958
03:15:47,700 --> 03:15:55,700
the property located at 108 de la Pointe Clair
Avenue on projected lots 6676070 and

1959
03:15:55,700 --> 03:15:58,700
6676069 of cadastre of Quebec. It is to authorize
the construction of two single

1960
03:15:58,700 --> 03:16:06,760
family dwellings, one on the projected lot
6676070 of the cadastre of Quebec, with a

1961
03:16:06,760 --> 03:16:11,760
front setback of 6.2m, rather than the minimum
required of 7.5 and one on the projected

1962
03:16:11,760 --> 03:16:17,760
lot 6676069 of the cadastre du Quebec, with
a front setback of 5.5m, rather than the minimum

1963
03:16:17,760 --> 03:16:26,760
required of 7.5. >> And set. >> The mover and
seconder for

1964
03:16:26,760 --> 03:16:31,760
7.1. 17.1, please. >> Lyric Matthews, District
two. >> Second by.

1965
03:16:31,760 --> 03:16:52,760
>> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> Said. De la Pointe Claire

1966
03:16:52,760 --> 03:17:02,820
pour la construction d'une maison une familiale.
>> For a seconder for 117.2.

1967
03:17:02,820 --> 03:17:07,820
>> Pardon? Is this where I can speak on the
matter, or is it at the derogation that I can

1968
03:17:07,820 --> 03:17:12,820
speak on the matter? >> This is on 106.4 Avenue.
>> Okay.

1969
03:17:12,820 --> 03:17:24,820
>> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> Eric Stork,
district seven. >> All in favor? Thank you.

1970
03:17:24,820 --> 03:17:30,820
>> So. 17.3 consider the site Planning and
Architectural Integration program plans with

1971
03:17:30,820 --> 03:17:34,820
respect to the property located at 108 de la
Pointe Claire Avenue, it is the construction

1972
03:17:34,820 --> 03:17:40,820
of a single family dwelling, and the recommendation
is to approve the site planning.

1973
03:17:40,820 --> 03:17:48,820
>> For 17.3, please. >> In district six. >>
Second by.

1974
03:17:48,820 --> 03:18:06,880
>> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> Avenue del Mar concerns.

1975
03:18:06,880 --> 03:18:12,880
6668. Vous avez une recommendation favorable
du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

1976
03:18:12,880 --> 03:18:17,880
>> Just a. Mr. Mayor, with respect I want to
just make a comment. Short comment. So

1977
03:18:17,880 --> 03:18:32,880
merci beaucoup. Who stayed this late? Much
appreciated. The. 66786 pour le center de dans
ma

1978
03:18:32,880 --> 03:18:44,880
okay. A propos de l'hotel derniere. AU residence
q g. Just want to take one minute,

1979
03:18:44,880 --> 03:18:50,880
one second to read something from my pamphlet,
which was under quality of life, said to

1980
03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:55,880
restore and protect the commercial zoning of
the Del Mar shopping Center. So that's

1981
03:18:55,880 --> 03:19:02,940
the reasons why I'll be voting no for this
one and for the other resolutions. Thank you.

1982
03:19:02,940 --> 03:19:08,940
>> Can I speak to this one briefly as well?
I'd just like to say a couple of things.

1983
03:19:08,940 --> 03:19:15,940
First of all, I share what councilor reasons
and as well as the proposal that it would

1984
03:19:15,940 --> 03:19:21,940
be better to preserve the commercial services
by having a mixed use building instead of a

1985
03:19:21,940 --> 03:19:26,940
wholly, wholly residential building. I would
make a very quick procedural note, which is

1986
03:19:26,940 --> 03:19:32,940
that this is now the the third property that
we are withdrawing from the interim

1987
03:19:32,940 --> 03:19:39,940
control bylaw. Over the course of this mandate.
And I, I generally agree with those who

1988
03:19:39,940 --> 03:19:45,940
have expressed the criticism that we should
be revising and updating our urban planning

1989
03:19:45,940 --> 03:19:50,940
before moving on all these projects, and I
think a lot of them can can wait the other.
I

1990
03:19:50,940 --> 03:19:57,940
think the remaining six months that I imagine
it will take to do that, but I have a much
more

1991
03:19:57,940 --> 03:20:03,000
simple procedural issue, which is that, in
my view, the proper way to proceed should be
to

1992
03:20:03,000 --> 03:20:09,000
withdraw these properties from the interim
control bylaw before the projects are

1993
03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:18,000
proposed, because in this situation that we
have here. If we approve this project, our

1994
03:20:18,000 --> 03:20:24,000
approval will create rights for the developer,
where if we were to go later, 2 or 3 months
from

1995
03:20:24,000 --> 03:20:29,000
now and refuse to remove it from the interim
control bylaw, well, they'd say, well, you

1996
03:20:29,000 --> 03:20:34,000
approved it. Then I had to spend so much on
doing it. You have no business doing this.
So

1997
03:20:34,000 --> 03:20:39,000
I believe the more effective way of doing it
would be the other way around. And it also

1998
03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:46,000
creates a dilemma for councilors looking to
vote for these proposals based on their

1999
03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:51,000
merits and on the zoning that currently exists.
Because I would look at this and I would

2000
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:58,000
say if it was done in the proper order, my
approach would be to vote against withdrawing

2001
03:20:58,000 --> 03:21:04,060
it from the interim control bylaw, because
I believe that we should rezone it for a mixed

2002
03:21:04,060 --> 03:21:10,060
use. That would require first floor commercial
and allow the DEP and ER and the daycare to

2003
03:21:10,060 --> 03:21:17,060
remain. But once the zoning is changed and
it's been withdrawn from the interim control
bylaw,

2004
03:21:17,060 --> 03:21:22,060
and I have to consider it as a purely residential
zoning, then I probably wouldn't have a

2005
03:21:22,060 --> 03:21:27,060
problem with the kind of townhouses that are
being built. But I'm now in a situation

2006
03:21:27,060 --> 03:21:32,060
where I can't really proceed in that manner.
And so that's why I'm voting against it as
well.

2007
03:21:32,060 --> 03:21:38,060
Thank you. >> Comment from me as well, Mr.
Mayor, please. So I share some

2008
03:21:38,060 --> 03:21:46,060
of those procedural concerns outlined just
this moment by Councilor Swidsinski, making
it

2009
03:21:46,060 --> 03:21:53,060
rather challenging for me to to vote clearly
on on this particular project. And I'll be

2010
03:21:53,060 --> 03:21:59,060
voting against. >> It. Okay. Can we have a
mover and seconder?

2011
03:21:59,060 --> 03:22:06,120
>> Can I add something I just wanted to say
regarding this project that I too would have

2012
03:22:06,120 --> 03:22:15,120
loved mixed use project on on this current
strip mall. It's, it's one of the last remaining

2013
03:22:15,120 --> 03:22:24,120
ones within our inner suburbia. I tried to
fight hard to, to get the Athens Pizza Strip
mall

2014
03:22:24,120 --> 03:22:32,120
to remain somewhat mixed use, but due to the
fact that this project will at least provide

2015
03:22:32,120 --> 03:22:40,120
townhomes instead of single family homes, I
am somewhat willing to accept that dilemma.

2016
03:22:40,120 --> 03:22:47,120
>> Thank you. >> Can we have a mover and seconded
for 17.1 then please?

2017
03:22:47,120 --> 03:22:54,120
Sorry, where are my 17.4? Yeah. >> District
are. >> Second by.

2018
03:22:54,120 --> 03:23:00,180
>> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> All in
favor please. >> Please hold. Okay.

2019
03:23:00,180 --> 03:23:06,180
>> Who is it? Eric. Kelly. >> Yeah. >> Claudine,
Mike.

2020
03:23:06,180 --> 03:23:10,180
>> And those against. >> All those against
one. Two. Perfect.

2021
03:23:10,180 --> 03:23:17,180
>> Okay. >> 17.5 consider the site plan and
architectural integration

2022
03:23:17,180 --> 03:23:22,180
program plans with respect to the property
at 477 Del Mar for the units one and eight
facing

2023
03:23:22,180 --> 03:23:29,180
the Cameron Crescent Avenue. It is a new construction
single family townhouses.

2024
03:23:29,180 --> 03:23:48,180
>> Set. Avenue D, Cameron Crescent, Nouvelle
Construction et des maisons, une famille.

2025
03:23:48,180 --> 03:23:52,180
>> And 17.7 to consider site planning and architectural
integration program plans with

2026
03:23:52,180 --> 03:23:57,180
respect to the property at 477 Del Mar for
units three and six facing the Cameron Crescent

2027
03:23:57,180 --> 03:24:07,240
Avenue. Also for new construction, single family
townhouses said.

2028
03:24:07,240 --> 03:24:15,240
>> Del Mar. Avenue del Mar for new construction.
>> Familial 17.9 to consider

2029
03:24:15,240 --> 03:24:19,240
site planning and architectural integration
program plans with respect to the property
at 477

2030
03:24:19,240 --> 03:24:25,240
Delmar Avenue for units two, four, five and
seven facing Del Mar Avenue, which are as well

2031
03:24:25,240 --> 03:24:37,240
new construction and single family townhouses.
>> Two point. Six del Mar pour

2032
03:24:37,240 --> 03:24:46,240
une nouvelle construction des maisons familiale.
Vous avez des recommandations favorable

2033
03:24:46,240 --> 03:24:52,240
for ensemble des femmes de la porte du Comité
consultatif d'urbanisme.

2034
03:24:52,240 --> 03:24:59,240
>> Can I do a grouping from 17.5 to 17.1? So
can I have a mover and seconder for 17.5 to

2035
03:24:59,240 --> 03:25:04,300
17.10 please. >> Includes in the district are.
>> Second by.

2036
03:25:04,300 --> 03:25:12,300
>> District Trois. >> Thank you. All in favor.
Keep your hands. Up including

2037
03:25:12,300 --> 03:25:29,300
Mike, Eric and Kelly. Okay. Not in favor Andrew
Bruno and Mike Butler. Thank you.

2038
03:25:29,300 --> 03:25:33,300
>> 1711 to consider a minor exemption request
concerning the property at 133 de la Baie

2039
03:25:33,300 --> 03:25:37,300
de Valois Avenue. It is to authorize the construction
of a single family dwelling without

2040
03:25:37,300 --> 03:25:41,300
a garage, whereas the new single family dwelling
must have a garage with exterior

2041
03:25:41,300 --> 03:25:45,300
stair access to the basement with a side setback
of 1.8m, rather than the minimum

2042
03:25:45,300 --> 03:25:50,300
required of two meters, and with a facade width
of seven meters, rather than the minimum

2043
03:25:50,300 --> 03:25:59,300
required of ten meters. >> Moved and seconded
for 17.11, please.

2044
03:25:59,300 --> 03:26:21,360
>> Donc pour. Bruno Tremblay. >> De l'Abbaye
de Valois pour une nouvelle construction.

2045
03:26:21,360 --> 03:26:28,360
>> Okay moved and seconded for 171117. >> District
six.

2046
03:26:28,360 --> 03:26:38,360
>> Ludovic Matthews district. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> 17.13 consider minor

2047
03:26:38,360 --> 03:26:42,360
exemption request concerning the property at
11 Auto Plaza Avenue. It is to authorize a

2048
03:26:42,360 --> 03:26:50,360
combined total area of 25.22m² for three signs,
rather than the maximum permitted of 18.6m².

2049
03:26:50,360 --> 03:26:58,360
A monument sign with a height of 3.66m, rather
than the maximum permitted of 2.5m, and

2050
03:26:58,360 --> 03:27:02,420
a framed wall sign located on the second floor
level. Whereas only signs displaying detached

2051
03:27:02,420 --> 03:27:08,420
letters without a frame are permitted. >> Moved
and seconded for 17.13,

2052
03:27:08,420 --> 03:27:14,420
please. >> District six. >> All in favor? Oh,
sorry.

2053
03:27:14,420 --> 03:27:30,420
>> David Matthews district. >> All in favor?
It's been a long.

2054
03:27:30,420 --> 03:27:40,420
>> Concernant la propriété au chemin du Bois
du Lac Lakeshore pour permettre une famille
avec

2055
03:27:40,420 --> 03:27:58,420
une marge. De. Meter carry. C'est un porch
on dans la marge de la maximum permet de 1.6m
et

2056
03:27:58,420 --> 03:28:11,480
une. Superficie de maximum et. Maximum permet
de et vous avez une recommandation favorable
du

2057
03:28:11,480 --> 03:28:20,480
comité consultatif d'urbanisme. >> The owner
have a chance to speak, hear or know. The owner

2058
03:28:20,480 --> 03:28:33,480
of a chance to speak. >> We. Des dans les soins
pouvez commenter.

2059
03:28:33,480 --> 03:28:40,480
>> Yes, he can speak. Yes, he can speak. >>
Hello, mayor.

2060
03:28:40,480 --> 03:28:45,480
>> And the. >> Council members, regarding the
points that was brought up

2061
03:28:45,480 --> 03:28:51,480
about regarding the margin and everything that
was about the the the stairs, that was a

2062
03:28:51,480 --> 03:28:56,480
recommendation by the the city because they
wanted an implementation to be uniform

2063
03:28:56,480 --> 03:29:03,540
with the, the house around the property. That
was what you had requested us to do initially.

2064
03:29:03,540 --> 03:29:06,540
That was something what the city had, urbanism
had done. And that's what they wanted to

2065
03:29:06,540 --> 03:29:11,540
add in a specification. Furthermore, regarding
the patrimonial. As you know, the

2066
03:29:11,540 --> 03:29:16,540
demolition was done and accepted and the province
of Quebec had authorized the

2067
03:29:16,540 --> 03:29:21,540
demolition for the property, considering that
it was not patrimonial and had no historic

2068
03:29:21,540 --> 03:29:26,540
value. And there was also, again, a lot of
documentation done and expertise done showing

2069
03:29:26,540 --> 03:29:32,540
that the house was no longer viable for reconstruction.
Furthermore, we had we had done

2070
03:29:32,540 --> 03:29:39,540
multiple changes from the for for the house,
from our initial of what we wanted. We all
have.

2071
03:29:39,540 --> 03:29:45,540
We made multiple changes to try to bring back
what the initial house has currently. We changed

2072
03:29:45,540 --> 03:29:52,540
the roofing. We changed the size. We changed
the windows. We made multiple. As you know,

2073
03:29:52,540 --> 03:29:57,540
it took me a year and a half, one year more,
more than that, a year and seven months. Now,

2074
03:29:57,540 --> 03:30:01,600
considering last month to come to this point,
we made a lot of sacrifices, me and my wife,
to

2075
03:30:01,600 --> 03:30:06,600
be able to have to present this house and to
be able to live in Pointe-Claire, we did consider

2076
03:30:06,600 --> 03:30:11,600
everybody around us, even though everybody
talks about the two houses beside me, but

2077
03:30:11,600 --> 03:30:15,600
no one talks about the house right in front
of me, which is a massive house, very beautiful,

2078
03:30:15,600 --> 03:30:21,600
very modern, but no one seems to think about
about that house. When they think about my
house,

2079
03:30:21,600 --> 03:30:25,600
I have to be uniform with everybody beside
me, but I can't be uniform with the one

2080
03:30:25,600 --> 03:30:30,600
in front of me. I still did a lot of changes,
put a lot of money to be here. And these

2081
03:30:30,600 --> 03:30:35,600
people were talking about having a flood for
the last two years. I haven't I don't have
a

2082
03:30:35,600 --> 03:30:39,600
house since two years now, almost, and I probably
won't have it. Even if I get a

2083
03:30:39,600 --> 03:30:44,600
positive approval today, it will still take
me a year to get to where I need to be to be

2084
03:30:44,600 --> 03:30:48,600
able to move into this house. So I'm sure you
know the financial stress that is to

2085
03:30:48,600 --> 03:30:53,600
have to pay two mortgages and still not know
if your house is going to be built. I made

2086
03:30:53,600 --> 03:30:58,600
multiple sacrifices and we did all we could.
We went through all the steps to be able to

2087
03:30:58,600 --> 03:31:02,660
reach here. We tried to appease everybody.
We had the CCU, the demolition committee. We
did

2088
03:31:02,660 --> 03:31:07,660
everything we can to be able to implement us
and start a life with us in Pointe-Claire.
I

2089
03:31:07,660 --> 03:31:11,660
don't know what else you can ask for us. The
only thing we're asking from you is to

2090
03:31:11,660 --> 03:31:17,660
have a little more space above our garage,
which is 352ft² above the garage. There is
no

2091
03:31:17,660 --> 03:31:22,660
change on the square footage on the grass.
We are doing exactly the square footage required
by

2092
03:31:22,660 --> 03:31:28,660
the city, required by the CCU. So the house
that we reduced the house to fit your

2093
03:31:28,660 --> 03:31:33,660
recommendations. The only thing we want is
that square footage on top of the garage, which

2094
03:31:33,660 --> 03:31:38,660
just changed nothing regarding the the green
grass. So and regarding the marjaavaan all

2095
03:31:38,660 --> 03:31:42,660
these things, that was a recommendation from
you guys saying that you wanted to have

2096
03:31:42,660 --> 03:31:47,660
a uniform look of it because if not, it could
have been have a wider front frontage compared

2097
03:31:47,660 --> 03:31:52,660
to the other houses. Regarding the garage thing,
is this because I was hoping to because

2098
03:31:52,660 --> 03:31:57,660
it's going to be very tight for me to come
out. It's more of a question of security. And
the

2099
03:31:57,660 --> 03:32:02,720
second thing is that you wanted to have the
garage a specific size. So to be able to fit
that

2100
03:32:02,720 --> 03:32:06,720
recommendation, I turned the house to the side
and put the garage on the side of the house

2101
03:32:06,720 --> 03:32:11,720
to be able to, to, to fit the minimum requirements
for the garage. But by doing that, I

2102
03:32:11,720 --> 03:32:16,720
have to make the garage wider for the to permit
the car to turn around and to be able to

2103
03:32:16,720 --> 03:32:21,720
get out of my house. So all these things are
all things that you had put upon me, and

2104
03:32:21,720 --> 03:32:25,720
all the things that you had put restrictions
on me. And I worked hard and tried to find
a

2105
03:32:25,720 --> 03:32:30,720
solution to make it happen. So after this point,
unless you don't want me to build and you

2106
03:32:30,720 --> 03:32:35,720
don't want to, how to be continued like the
way it is, and you don't want us to live

2107
03:32:35,720 --> 03:32:39,720
in Pointe-Claire. I think that's the point
we are at right now. So I hope you

2108
03:32:39,720 --> 03:32:43,720
consider all of these points because we made
major efforts. If ever you saw the initial

2109
03:32:43,720 --> 03:32:47,720
project we submitted, you can see how much
effort we made to come to the the project we
are

2110
03:32:47,720 --> 03:32:51,720
presenting today. >> Thank you. >> My husband.
Can you go up to

2111
03:32:51,720 --> 03:32:56,720
the mic though? Because people. Thank you.
>> Just to add, he touched on

2112
03:32:56,720 --> 03:33:02,780
it, but we worked extremely hard with the CCU
committee to address all of your points, and

2113
03:33:02,780 --> 03:33:09,780
they approved our project. We went through
all of those concerns the heritage, the size,

2114
03:33:09,780 --> 03:33:14,780
the look, everything, and they said it fits
directly with the neighborhood. And they're

2115
03:33:14,780 --> 03:33:20,780
specialists, they're urbanists. So I just want
to reiterate that because that was a big

2116
03:33:20,780 --> 03:33:24,780
undergoing on our end to work with them and
collaborate with them also yourselves to get
to

2117
03:33:24,780 --> 03:33:30,780
this point. And I understand the concerns,
but we have reiterated it with your council

2118
03:33:30,780 --> 03:33:36,780
prior to this and the CCU, and have done a
lot of work. And we we know these concerns,
but

2119
03:33:36,780 --> 03:33:43,780
we've addressed them all already. >> Thank
you. No, you've

2120
03:33:43,780 --> 03:33:50,780
already had your chance. Right. Okay. >> Mr.
Mayor, I suggest that we

2121
03:33:50,780 --> 03:34:07,840
that you vote on 17.14. >> Then can I say something
about it then?

2122
03:34:07,840 --> 03:34:13,840
>> Can I have a mover, a second number 17.14,
please. >> 1714 Kelly Thorstad Cullen,

2123
03:34:13,840 --> 03:34:20,840
district three. >> Eric Storch, district seven.
>> Thank you. All in favor? You

2124
03:34:20,840 --> 03:34:26,840
want to speak? Go ahead. >> So I just want
to start. I'm sorry. It's going to probably

2125
03:34:26,840 --> 03:34:37,840
be in French. Is that okay? Okay. Une lettre
d'un citoyen qui NE vous etes ici

2126
03:34:37,840 --> 03:34:50,840
aujourd'hui? Mais qui est une lettre au service
de la graveyard. Donc je voulais. AU

2127
03:34:50,840 --> 03:34:56,840
service de de Pointe-Claire, Madame. Je suis
pas la présence de ma grande preoccupation

2128
03:34:56,840 --> 03:35:04,900
concernant la demande de derogation présentée
pour la propriété au saint. Germain,

2129
03:35:04,900 --> 03:35:13,900
Macau et propriété ou Avenue Hillcrest. Tout
d'abord apres la demolition de la terrain

2130
03:35:13,900 --> 03:35:19,900
vacant permet une nouvelle maison en respecting
parfaitement le reglement de la

2131
03:35:19,900 --> 03:35:26,900
ville a un plan de maison de NE tenant pas
compte des obligations et reglement en

2132
03:35:26,900 --> 03:35:37,900
vigueur pour demander des demander des derogations.
Tout azimuth particulierement a la

2133
03:35:37,900 --> 03:35:41,900
demande d'augmentation de la superficie de
planchette. Auteur. UN desequilibrio par

2134
03:35:41,900 --> 03:35:46,900
rapport aux deux residencies de Chakotay, en
particulier la maison Patrimonial et détail

2135
03:35:46,900 --> 03:35:53,900
modest, qui NE pourra jamais et détruit. Une
erreur est une procédure d'exception, un

2136
03:35:53,900 --> 03:36:03,960
privilege accordée par le Conseil municipal
et doit etre et surtout, Elle doit corriger

2137
03:36:03,960 --> 03:36:14,960
une situation ou l'application strict de reglement
prejudice sérieux. Dans le contexte de la

2138
03:36:14,960 --> 03:36:19,960
prize de urbanistes, IL est décrire ainsi
une derogation peut etre accordé seulement
si

2139
03:36:19,960 --> 03:36:25,960
l'application de reglement et de l'auteur cause
unprejudiced aux demandeurs. Si Elle respect

2140
03:36:25,960 --> 03:36:33,960
les objectifs de urbanistes la seule prejudice
demandeurs si en un de vouloir construire une

2141
03:36:33,960 --> 03:36:39,960
belle et la superficie et de la pour respecter
les marchés minimal avant je souhaite la

2142
03:36:39,960 --> 03:36:48,960
présence du Conseil municipal lors de la réunion
des réunion pourraient je vous acceptez

2143
03:36:48,960 --> 03:37:00,020
Madame Distinguer. Donc sa c'était un demi
constituent du district des et pour ma part
en

2144
03:37:00,020 --> 03:37:06,020
termes de fonction de conseiller, selon le
reglement sur les communautés en vigueur,

2145
03:37:06,020 --> 03:37:17,020
nous devons considérer la durée. Du du reglement
de Pointe Claire, apres avoir la vie du

2146
03:37:17,020 --> 03:37:24,020
comité consultatif du sujet le Conseil municipal
accordée une derogation au disposition de

2147
03:37:24,020 --> 03:37:29,020
reglement de et des autres, celles qui sont
relatifs a l'histoire et a la densité

2148
03:37:29,020 --> 03:37:37,020
occupation du sol pour un la strict conformité
soit impossible du l'application de

2149
03:37:37,020 --> 03:37:46,020
reglement et pour un prejudice a la demande
de la derogation et la derogation NE peut pas

2150
03:37:46,020 --> 03:38:02,080
les propriétaires des droits de propriété.
Des qui sont en avant nous, je suis un accord

2151
03:38:02,080 --> 03:38:11,080
avec la derogation sur le Mark Gavin, qui respect
les deux batiments voisins. Je crois

2152
03:38:11,080 --> 03:38:23,080
aussi pour les politiques et les. Moyens et
pour la delegation du. On a la rue et

2153
03:38:23,080 --> 03:38:37,080
au garage. Je crois de besoin sécuritaire
pour voir. Je pense, c'est a un bon decision,

2154
03:38:37,080 --> 03:38:51,080
monsieur. OU Marcel. Pour trouver un moi et
designer de quatre q g pour trouver un

2155
03:38:51,080 --> 03:39:03,140
respect, le reglement de. De la ville de Pointe-Claire.
SE je vous vous comme. Citoyen de

2156
03:39:03,140 --> 03:39:12,140
Pointe Claire un. ET si je avoir un bon rapport
avec vous, c'est vraiment pour quand vous

2157
03:39:12,140 --> 03:39:21,140
je suis pour l'exploitation du projet, mais
contre le joue on superficie de superficie.
Donc

2158
03:39:21,140 --> 03:39:26,140
pour cette raison, je dois contre merci. >>
Any other comments? We're

2159
03:39:26,140 --> 03:39:31,140
good. Okay. Can I have a mover and a seconder,
please? >> Just 417.

2160
03:39:31,140 --> 03:39:40,140
>> Okay, good. Okay. Grab a vote in favor,
please. Show your hands, please. You have to

2161
03:39:40,140 --> 03:39:46,140
vote. Please. >> Who's against? >> Please put
your hands up in

2162
03:39:46,140 --> 03:39:56,140
favor. Keep them up. Eric. >> Close in. Yep.
Okay. >> Missus. Councilor Gillon.

2163
03:39:56,140 --> 03:40:09,200
>> Not in favor. Andrew. Bruno. Thank you.
>> C donc.

2164
03:40:09,200 --> 03:40:16,200
>> Sorry. >> She's she's absent. So she cannot
vote.

2165
03:40:16,200 --> 03:40:23,200
>> She can't vote. Okay, guys, this is not
a place for debate. I'm sorry. We've taken
the vote.

2166
03:40:23,200 --> 03:40:26,200
>> 17.15 consider the Site Planning and Architecture
Integration program plans with

2167
03:40:26,200 --> 03:40:33,200
respect to the property at 106 Balzac Lake
Shore Road. Avec un recommendation favorable.
The

2168
03:40:33,200 --> 03:40:38,200
Planning Advisory Committee for New Construction.
>> Got a mover and seconder for

2169
03:40:38,200 --> 03:40:52,200
1715, please. >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district
three.

2170
03:40:52,200 --> 03:40:56,200
>> Second by. >> Eric Storch. >> Discussion
with regards to

2171
03:40:56,200 --> 03:41:03,260
this one that I oppose it as well, and I think
it's important in these instances to

2172
03:41:03,260 --> 03:41:06,260
consider that there is a heritage character
to this neighborhood. The building next

2173
03:41:06,260 --> 03:41:17,260
to it was built in 1760, and the project developers,
whether they intend to move into this

2174
03:41:17,260 --> 03:41:25,260
new home or not. Are perfectly capable of building
a larger one that respects the existing

2175
03:41:25,260 --> 03:41:31,260
zoning and not going down the route of creating
a Laval style McMansion, which is what is

2176
03:41:31,260 --> 03:41:36,260
proposed here. And so that is why I would oppose
this as well. Thank you.

2177
03:41:36,260 --> 03:41:49,260
>> Thank you. Okay. All in favor, please. Eric,
Mike Kelly, Madame La Mer, all against.

2178
03:41:49,260 --> 03:42:02,320
Thank you, thank you. >> 1716 Kings Point size.
Kings point size set point size. Set

2179
03:42:02,320 --> 03:42:12,320
point size. For. >> And. 17.17 to consider
site planning and architecture

2180
03:42:12,320 --> 03:42:15,320
integration program plans with respect to the
property at three Cedar Avenue for exterior

2181
03:42:15,320 --> 03:42:20,320
renovations. And both 1716 and 1717 have favorable
recommendations from the PSC

2182
03:42:20,320 --> 03:42:29,320
Committee. >> Delegates 17, 16, 17, 17 Mover
and a second, please.

2183
03:42:29,320 --> 03:42:34,320
>> Mike, >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski.

2184
03:42:34,320 --> 03:42:44,320
>> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> Thank you
that.

2185
03:42:44,320 --> 03:42:50,320
>> Site. >> Mover and secondary for 17.18.

2186
03:42:50,320 --> 03:42:54,320
>> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district three. >>
Second by.

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03:42:54,320 --> 03:43:04,380
>> Eric Storch, district seven. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> 17.19 consider site planning

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03:43:04,380 --> 03:43:08,380
and architectural Integration program plans
with respect to the property at 32 Killarney

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03:43:08,380 --> 03:43:11,380
Gardens, it is for exterior renovations and
there is a favorable recommendation from

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03:43:11,380 --> 03:43:23,380
the PSC Committee. >> Laurelwood. Déja approuvé
vous avec une recommendation

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03:43:23,380 --> 03:43:27,380
favorable de Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
>> And 17.21. Consider Site

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03:43:27,380 --> 03:43:30,380
Planning and architectural Integration program
plans with respect to the property at 127

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03:43:30,380 --> 03:43:37,380
Maitland Avenue. It is for extension and a
renovation and also a favorable recommendation

2194
03:43:37,380 --> 03:43:48,380
from the PSC mover. >> Second seven until 17.24
okay 170.12 consider

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03:43:48,380 --> 03:43:55,380
architectural. Pour une nouvelle construction
vis a une recommendation favorable du

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03:43:55,380 --> 03:43:59,380
Comité consultatif d'urbanisme 17.23. >> Consider
the Site Planning

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03:43:59,380 --> 03:44:03,440
and Architecture Integration program plans
with respect to the property at 133 Queen

2198
03:44:03,440 --> 03:44:09,440
Avenue for exterior renovations, and also a
favorable recommendation from the PSC.

2199
03:44:09,440 --> 03:44:19,440
>> Said. Implementation and integration at
La Propriété AU. Canadian et Le Pigeon Club,

2200
03:44:19,440 --> 03:44:26,440
cafe commerciale vous avez une recommandation
du comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

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03:44:26,440 --> 03:44:34,440
>> Secondary from 17.19 through 1724. >> District
A.

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03:44:34,440 --> 03:44:36,440
>> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district
two.

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03:44:36,440 --> 03:44:44,440
>> All in favor? Thank you. >> And 18.1 to
exercise the renewal option provided for in

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03:44:44,440 --> 03:44:52,440
the contract entered into with Senior Glass
Canada, Inc. for the period of mid-October
2020.

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03:44:52,440 --> 03:45:02,500
Six. Sorry, there's a typo to mid April 2027
in the amount of $376,336.17, taxes included
for

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03:45:02,500 --> 03:45:07,500
the rental of a refrigerated outdoor rink and
outdoor skating oval. The second

2207
03:45:07,500 --> 03:45:11,500
renewal year of the contract, the rental of
the Zamboni, is added to the contract for an

2208
03:45:11,500 --> 03:45:19,500
amount of $20,546.03, taxes included as well.
>> Second, for 18.1, please.

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03:45:19,500 --> 03:45:24,500
>> Kelly Thorstad Cullen District 12 district.
>> Mr. mayor, may I speak to

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03:45:24,500 --> 03:45:30,500
this? I apologize, I didn't give my position
prior in caucus because I was not there,

2211
03:45:30,500 --> 03:45:34,500
but I'll be voting against this for the same
reasons I felt over the last couple of years

2212
03:45:34,500 --> 03:45:46,500
on this project. Thank you. >> Thank you. Also.
All in favor? And against. Thank you.

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03:45:46,500 --> 03:45:55,500
Andrew two thank you. >> Closure. >> Closure
and seconder.

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03:45:55,500 --> 03:46:00,560
>> District six. >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin,
district with.

2215
03:46:00,560 --> 03:46:07,560
>> All in favor. Thank you. Thank you for being
patient everybody. It was a long night.

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03:46:07,560 --> 03:46:22,560
Thank you.