[1:57] >> Mr. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, can you turn on
your microphone for the video, please?
[2:03] >> Good evening everyone. Thank you for coming
out. I know why you're here, and there's a
lot
[2:08] of emotions and stuff going on, but we have
a lot to cover. We'll get through it, we'll
get
[2:12] through it together, and we'll give you the
opportunity to be heard. But let me start my
[2:17] opening statements. Then we'll get to the nitty
gritty after. So, Madame de Monsieur. Ladies
[2:24] and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to
the July 26th Regular Council meeting. A note
[2:31] to our community. I dermont Touchet. Revenir
sur les qui se sont habitués, sir. No
[2:42] territoire de near. First, I want to address
the residents who were affected. We know that
[2:48] events like this are difficult, but also cause
a great deal of stress. On behalf of the
[2:52] members of Municipal Council, I want you to
know that our thoughts are with you and that
[2:57] we are fully aware of what many of you are
still going through. Since this event on. Our
[3:04] municipal teams have been mobilized in the
field to support recovery operations,
[3:08] including the collection of flood related debris.
In the face of the situation, we have
[3:13] also seen our community come together, neighbors
supporting one another and checking in on
[3:17] each other. Those gestures say a great deal
about the strength of our community. Come voulez
[3:24] vous avez la ville de plusieurs from afin de
mieux adaptation of the territoire or de
[3:32] printemps? Je peux vous les membres de Conseil
et le administration sont mobilisés
[3:37] pour faire progresser le dossier de la gestion
de la. PVA, qui est un grande priorité.
[3:43] These efforts are. Maintenant dans un plan
de action structure et autour de trois
[3:50] access concrete. The first access focuses on
better informing residents, helping
[3:56] better understand the impacts of heavy rainfall,
and learn how to prepare for these
[4:01] situations. Three public conferences were held
in 2025 and 26 to present best
[4:07] practices for making homes more resilient.
The recordings are available online through
our
[4:12] website. The Access Port LA Port Infrastructure
Municipality, La collaboration
[4:20] avec la école de technologie supérieure pour
oser sa sur un plan de gestion des eaux PVA
a.
[4:29] Investigated on the project infrastructure
qui permet de mieux retenir absorbé depuis.
[4:37] Vincent du projet. Sont a l'heure de la bioretention
dans les. L'avenue Elgin et la
[4:46] Avenue a la. Vegetables. Vegetation Avenue,
Winthrop, un des autres importants sont
[5:00] encore an investment de plus de two milliards
de dollars a parc naturel terracotta terracotta
[5:06] aussi un projet reconstruction de la Avenue,
Ivanhoe Crescent. The third access aims to
[5:13] support residents in adapting their properties.
This evening, council will be asked to adopt
[5:19] a financial assistance program to support the
installation of rainwater retention and
[5:23] absorption absorption measures on residential
properties. This program will allow eligible
[5:29] homeowners to receive financial assistance,
covering 50% of the value of eligible work,
up to a
[5:34] maximum of $5,000 per property by the end of
the summer. This financial support will become
[5:41] complemented by an advisory service offered
in collaboration with the Echo
[5:45] Echo Habitacion, to help homeowners identify
the measures best suited for their
[5:51] situation. This is a concrete and a. Plan d'action
pour les sur le territoire Elle. Dans
[6:03] Notre volonté de jeu de facon de lab and collective
for foresight. Naissance de pointe
[6:11] Claire. So that's part of what we're going
to be talking about later on this evening.
We'll
[6:16] get to all the fine details when we hear your
questions and your concerns, sir, no more
[6:22] positive Jimmy. Jam jam. Maintenant vous parle
de quelque chose de développement.
[6:29] C'est la vie de Notre communauté. First, I
would like to highlight the recent opening
[6:34] of a supermarket in Pointe Claire. I hope if
you have you had a chance to go to it? Show
[6:39] you. Raise your hands. Are you happy just to
let you know we've met with them and they're
[6:45] so, so happy. Of the people in Pointe Claire,
they just love us. They're they we're
[6:50] supporting them. They feel energized. And they're,
they're really, really community
[6:53] leaders. So don't be shy. If you have any suggestions,
comments, talk to them and
[6:58] become friends with them. They're good people.
We're very pleased to welcome this new
[7:02] business to Valois. This opening reflects the
vitality of this area and provides new
[7:06] options for residents. It's a wonderful addition
to our community and we wish them
[7:10] every success. Historical buildings on the
prochaine Coupe de petites. Les photos de
[7:22] les Propriétaires heritage, qui a fait le
passé maison qui considered a heritage list
qui
[7:35] sont de la ville memorial. Les photos les maisons.
So see the war on terror photos. They'll
[7:42] be they'll be identified, but they're building
an inventory and a. Of all their properties
[7:47] and then and then documenting everything. So
in the next little while, you might see
[7:52] people coming around taking pictures of your
house. If it's heritage, there's over about
[7:56] 300 houses on this list of Montreal came up
with last year, and there's been a couple 100
[8:01] on another alternative list that they haven't
decided if they are or they aren't. In the
[8:05] meantime, they're going around to take pictures
to put them in an inventory and, and build
up
[8:09] a dossier on them so they'll be identified.
And if you have any questions or concerns and
[8:14] you're not sure, you can call public security
at 6301234 and they'll tell you if they're
[8:19] legit or not. As you see. Merci. Tout le monde,
les citoyens. Qui a été avec le fait
[8:28] nationale Saint-Jean-Baptiste et la fete de
Canada, the premier Juliette. So I'd like
[8:32] to thank everybody citizens, volunteers, employees
who made the celebrations happy kind of
[8:37] rained a little bit. But you know what? It
was impressive how many people still stuck
[8:41] around the park and came out and enjoy the
festivities. And the fete Nationale
[8:46] Saint-Jean-Baptiste went off without a hitch.
Beautiful day and everybody enjoyed it. So
[8:50] thank you to everybody. Another thing I'd like
to just mention employees barbecue the barbecue,
[8:58] please. Employee say circa on a Plusieurs employee
p pour la ville de Pointe-Claire mais de.
[9:10] The person or so barbecue has come de nouveaux
relation start new relationships. It gets
[9:19] people talking. Gets people to know each other.
We have, you know, hundreds of employees and
[9:23] they work in all different departments. So
it's a time of year that they get together
and
[9:27] chit chat and have fun. And it was a great
success. And that too, we got hit by a big
[9:32] rainstorm and stuff was flying around and everything
that day, but that was the last ten
[9:36] minutes. So it was it was a success. So it
was very positive. All right. Let me
[9:47] just make sure I didn't forget anything. I
had one other thing, but I don't know where
it is.
[9:57] Okay, good. I'm going to go around the table
and ask if the councilors have any comments.
[10:01] Mr. stock, do you have anything you'd like
to say first? >> Well, as a representative
of
[10:06] Northview, I'll address the monkey in the room.
Obviously the rainfall was horrible. I
[10:12] recognized many of you that I saw in the streets
that night. I could tell you that that
[10:19] everything is being looked at at Winthrop and
Hymas. You know, it's we're looking at
[10:24] everything that was done. I was flooded myself
once again. And the water mitigations issues
[10:31] must continue. And I firmly tell you from the
bottom of my heart that Pointe-Claire is
[10:36] doing the best we can for the last little while.
And if you believe I saw many of you, I
[10:41] visited many of you. I was walking there. I
was 1145, and I'm not going to explain what
I
[10:46] did. And I'm not looking for empathy. But there's
two things that are important here. I
[10:50] visited 46 homes the the day after in the last
three weeks, let's just say there was 100
[10:58] homes that were flooded. There was 25% who
have never been flooded before just by the
[11:03] sheer water mitigation that existed. And just,
you know, as your representative in
[11:09] Northview and for the other citizens on my
page, I will be holding after this. I've spoken
[11:14] to many of you about the Eagle Habitation project,
which is coming through, which will be
[11:19] approved today. And then the, I guess the the
door will be unlatched for, you know, next
[11:25] couple of days for inquiries and submissions,
I will be holding a teams meeting in the
[11:32] next week, week and a half to explain exactly
what the Eagle Habitation program is and at
[11:38] the same time having a good understanding of
the water mitigation issues. You know,
[11:44] what can or what should be done and, and what
we need to do to move forward. This is an US
[11:50] problem. We can't lift the city and change
all the pipes. Okay. It's, you know, as Karl's
right
[11:56] there, it's an uphill, downhill water mitigation
issue. And I don't want to take too much of
[12:03] your time, but I'm there for you citizens.
You know it. And we'll we'll get through this,
[12:07] but we have to get through this together. Just
keep on pressing to to ask the hard questions.
[12:13] And I will I will bring them to the administration.
Thank you. >> Mr. Palmer.
[12:20] >> The. Mace present a la fin de la session.
Si vous avez des questions soit pour un bon
pour
[12:29] répondre aux questions spécifiquement pour
au niveau de la ville au niveau du
[12:33] quartier numero eight. I don't have anything
right now, but I will be staying after the
[12:37] session for a good amount of time. Anybody
has any questions specific to district eight?
[12:42] I'll be glad to answer them directly. Thank
you. >> Mr. Straczynski. I'm going.
[12:53] >> Okay. >> My sympathy, my solidarity avec
tous les victimes des et
[13:06] remercier, les premiers et les employés qui
sont en et. I also want to take a moment to
talk
[13:14] about the most flooded residents of district
four were those on in the Greenwich
[13:20] condominium project and on Alston. Now the
Greenwich condo project was partly built over
a
[13:28] wetland and involved cutting down some 150
trees. At the time that it was built, the
[13:34] main stormwater infrastructure for it was a
drainage ditch built along the property lines
[13:39] between Alston and the primary townhouses in
my district, and the other ones further up
north.
[13:46] And John Drew and Councilor Tremblay's. Now,
since that since it was put in place, the
[13:53] residents on both sides have experienced repeated
flooding, not just in the major storms of
[13:59] 2024 and 2025, but several times before. I
think in the cases of the prima three
[14:07] townhouses, it was nine times in total. Now,
two weeks before the storm on June 20th, I
was
[14:13] visiting and forwarding complaints from Alston
residents that the ditch wasn't
[14:17] draining. Even without rain. It was half full
of water with bulrushes growing and drains
[14:22] that appeared to be blocked. Residents who
have asked have typically been told by the
city
[14:27] that it's private property and nothing can
be done, but some have made the argument that
the
[14:32] problem is, in fact, with the connecting city
storm sewers and question whether private
[14:35] land ends and the city's begins. I made requests
for documentation on this, and any
[14:42] assessments done on potential flood risks.
When the Greenwich project was approved, I
was
[14:46] told to fill out an access to information request
when I received the results, I hope to
[14:52] be able to share them and see whether they
can contribute to some improvements being made.
[14:59] What does seem clear to me is that the current
drainage system has repeatedly failed to
[15:04] protect residents from flooding. My position
that I would respectfully submit as
[15:09] councilor for district four is that having.
After having approved this kind of
[15:14] development in a wetland, which I think knowing
then what we know now, we would have
[15:19] approved, I think, a different development
with a different. Kind of drainage system.
I was
[15:26] not there at the time, but this is what I think
would occur. I believe that council has a
[15:31] moral obligation to make the situation right.
I think this should include both improving
[15:37] the city's storm drains and improving the city
infrastructure that is
[15:42] currently there, and taking ownership or a
servitude of the strip of land where the ditch
[15:47] is located so that we can replace it or do
corrective work. Some will say that we
[15:52] should do nothing because it's still private
property. But I would point out that this
[15:56] evening we are adopting what I think is a very
good flood preparedness subsidy program.
[16:03] However, it's one that benefits only those
who have single family homes. If you're
[16:09] multi-family residential, if you're part of
a townhouse complex, you wouldn't have
[16:12] access to it. And so with that in mind, I think
we need to be generous in considering
[16:19] accommodations that could be made for people
who are in these kinds of situations. And
[16:24] finally, you know, I think if it is our intent
as a council to approve further developments
[16:30] in this area, it is incumbent on us to improve
the stormwater drain systems and the
[16:36] infrastructure that is there to serve the project
that is there right now. Thank you.
[16:41] >> Merci. Mr. Tremblay. >> Merci, Monsieur
mayor. Good evening. UN peu les memes.
[16:51] Message queue. Les conseillers au sujet des
inundations également disponible vous avez
[16:58] des questions comme d'habitude. As usual, I'm
available through email, telephone. If there's
[17:04] anything you'd like to discuss with regards
to the flooding events or any other issue in
[17:09] the district. Thank you. >> Mr. Ludovic Matthews.
>> Yes, I just wanted to give
[17:17] them all my sympathies to all those who were
affected by the flooding. And I know it's not
[17:25] easy. It's it's it's a long process. And if
you've never experienced before, quite the
[17:30] shock. I just wanted to point out the great
work of our council, and especially Eric
[17:39] Stork, who I know was on the ground and dealing
with lots of things and as well as the mayor.
[17:46] Sorry if there were others, but those were
the two that I, I recognized the were were
on
[17:51] site and also Jill and the administration and
all the Public works employees. Thank
[17:57] you for being there for them. And I'm sorry
I wasn't as present as I should have been.
[18:04] Anyway, have a good night. Thank you. >> Madam
Mayor.
[18:08] >> Merci, monsieur. UN grand solidarité avec
toutes les autres districts et sa veut pas
[18:18] dire dans. Pour moi. J'ai déja été un grand
solidarité avec vous tous merci bonne soirée.
[18:26] >> And my last comment I forgot to mention
is that I'm very proud. And for the city, we
[18:31] just signed our union contract with the for
the blue collars. And it's it's good for us.
It's
[18:38] good for them. And again, like it's been mentioned
many times around this table tonight, they
[18:43] stepped up. They've been there for us not only
during the flooding, but during all the
[18:47] other days that we deserve as they offer to
us in the winter and summer. So I'm glad to
that
[18:54] that's resolved. Anything to say? Mr. Gerard.
>> On that note, specifically
[19:00] or on. >> That note specifically. >> It's a
it's a good
[19:04] essentially agreement that the city has with
the the blue collars, if that's what you're
[19:08] referring to. Absolutely. Yeah. And I know,
I just wanted to mention that there's Missus
[19:18] Colon too. I don't know if she wanted to mention
a word of entry as well.
[19:23] >> I'll go to I'll go to missus. She's on the
on screen tonight because she's ill and has
a
[19:28] fever, so she cannot be present with us. So
she's going to be doing it from Zoom. Anything
[19:33] you'd like to say, missus Colon? >> Merci beaucoup.
La mer a just a sentiment de la mer et.
[19:43] Conseillere de la inundacion. Mais IL y a un
not positive. Juste un petit palais de Valois
[19:52] lieu la semaine prochaine. Le soir la a a.
On a positive note, we do have our community
events
[19:59] still going on. And just a reminder that the
fair is next week, Thursday, July 16th in
[20:05] the evening. >> Thank you very much. Okay.
Mr. Alexander.
[20:22] >> Nous devrions dans le numéro le 6666666.
At 17.4. We should read. The projected lot
6695286
[20:44] and 6695287. >> Perfect. Can we have a 11.1?
Adoption of.
[20:57] >> Ludovic Matthews district two. >> District.
[21:02] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Madame Wendy.
Mosley, president de Pointe Claire et
[21:12] de la médaille de la gouvernance pour les
années six. >> Okay, so on that note, we're
[21:19] going to be honoring a woman this evening,
Mrs. Wendy Mosley, who is who? I got the
[21:24] Lieutenant Governor's award. So say avec beaucoup
de nous aujourd'hui and naissance de la
[21:32] rue de la médaille de lieutenant governor
pour les années de Madame Wendy
[21:39] Huntzinger. Since arriving in Pointe Claire
in 1984, Mrs. Huntzinger has devoted a
[21:43] significant part of her life to volunteering
and to the well-being of families in our
[21:47] community. For more than four decades, she
has been involved with many causes, including
[21:52] guides, scouts, the missing children's network,
fundraisers for women's shelters, Quebec
[21:56] Special Olympics as well as child safety and
prevention initiatives. Des jeunes de la
[22:05] famille, des plusieurs organismes de la was
Madame Hunzinger a contribution to the
[22:11] community solidaire? Plus en plus humain C.
Ski resort de son pour se non seulement en
[22:19] plus de son implication, mais aussi son constant
sa generosity et sa volonté de les
[22:26] autres une année. Mrs. Moseley, your commitment
to is a source of inspiration for your family,
[22:33] your neighbors and our entire city. You remind
us that volunteer volunteerism, even
[22:39] when carried out quietly and humbly, can have
a deep, lasting impact. I would also
[22:44] like to thank the Pointe Claire Senior Center
for submitting her nomination. Thanks to this
[22:49] initiative, we are able today to recognize
both this commitment and exceptional
[22:53] person who is part of our community. Claire
is a. Municipal officer. Plusieurs
[23:04] sincere felicitations. Merci pour votre generosity
et votre contribution exceptional and
[23:09] Notre community. I invite you now to come in
the front, and we'll take a picture and show
[23:14] you. Show off your great medallion. >> So humble
that she didn't
[23:35] even go get it. It was because she wasn't well,
she didn't tell anybody about it. We had
[23:41] to leave right behind. >> You guys be quiet
about it. >> I've already had my say.
[24:13] >> Okay. >> So 33.1 to approve the minutes
of the regular meeting
[24:17] held on June 2nd, 2026. >> Have a mover and
secondary, please.
[24:21] >> David Matthews, district des district. >>
All in favor? Thank you.
[24:34] >> There is no follow up question at this point,
sir, from the previous council
[24:38] meeting. >> Okay. So just a for people who
just come for the first
[24:42] time every month, when somebody asks a question,
we don't have the answer or and if we don't
[24:46] meet with you during the month after the question
was asked, we give you the answer the
[24:51] following month so you can follow up. You can
find it online, at least it educates
[24:55] everybody who was present. And maybe people
learn things and find out different things
that
[24:58] happen in the city. So thank you, Mr. Jawad.
>> En francais. En anglais.
[25:10] Finalement l'ordre de votre inscription. Parfaitement
suivie. Nous allons commencer
[25:17] par les citoyens qui sont ici pour des questions
plus générale et par la suite. Nous
[25:23] avec les personnes qui sont inscrits pour tout
ce qui les épisodes de plus de la semaine
[25:30] passée. N'est pas destinée a des conseils
ou a doit personnel des. Insinuations
[25:41] veulent respectueuse ou des trois denigrate
ou intimidate. Pour les affaires de la ville,
[25:54] Le droit. Citoyen et de la ville de la. Par
la suite n'est pas la période. Des questions
[26:04] est une durée de la majorité. Des membres
du Conseil présent peuvent soit prolonger
le nom
[26:11] de question et avec ou sans preamble, au des
trois questions au président de la
[26:21] science. Donc Monsieur le Maire, qui peut aussi
des verifications supplémentaires
[26:26] sont nécessaires pour répondre lors de la
prochaine séance ou par la parole peut également
un
[26:32] membre du Conseil au directeur général de
la ville, afin de répondre ou de la réponse
a la
[26:37] demande de président. Des questions doivent
porter sur des affaires NE peuvent pas
[26:45] devant les tribunaux ou un quasi judicial ou
une affaire qui fait l'objet d'une enquete
[26:49] dans la réponse a la ville et le président
de la science et le droit de parole, qui NE
pas
[26:57] les dispositions de reglement de la région
de la science du Conseil.
[27:02] >> So exceptionally tonight, we will not follow
the order that you signed up for, and we will
[27:08] hear general questions and then all questions
relating to flooding following that, the
[27:13] question period is not intended for the sharing
of opinion, advice or engaging in debate.
[27:16] All participants must refrain from making personal
remarks, insinuations or using violent,
[27:21] offensive, threatening or disrespectful language,
as well as employing words deemed
[27:26] vexatious, disparaging or intimidating. Only
questions of public interest are permitted.
[27:30] All questions of private interest unrelated
to city business are not permitted.
[27:34] Priority to speak is given to citizens and
taxpayers of the city of Pointe-Claire.
[27:37] Nonresidents may ask their questions afterward.
Time permitting. The question period
[27:41] has a maximum duration of 90 minutes. However,
a majority of council members present may
[27:45] agree to extend the question period. Each person
is limited to two questions with or
[27:50] without a preliminary statement, and must not
exceed a total allotted time of three minutes
[27:54] per question. Questions are addressed to the
chairperson, who may respond immediately or,
[27:58] if further verification is required, provide
a response at the next meeting or in writing.
[28:02] The floor may also be seated to another council
member or to the City Manager to provide or
[28:07] complete the response at the president's request.
If the question concerns a matter
[28:11] pending before the courts or a judicial body
or a matter under investigation, were responding
[28:17] could be prejudicial to the city or an individual,
or could disclose part of the evidence
[28:21] or arguments. The question may not be answered.
And lastly, the chairperson may limit or
[28:26] withdraw speaking rights from any member of
the public who does not comply with the
[28:29] internal governance rules surrounding council
meetings. >> Thank you.
[28:36] >> So I'm going to start with Susan Weaver.
>> District eight. I'd like
[28:58] more information for item 16.2, which has to
do with Sandy vac. Approve a change order to
the
[29:06] contract entered into with Sandy vac for televised
inspection works of stormwater
[29:12] and sanitary networks on various streets for
2026. What streets will be prioritized and
[29:20] where? Telephone televised inspections done
before? And I'll wait for the answer when
[29:25] you come to the item. And my second question
is, does the city regularly monitor the
[29:33] cleanout of storm water and sanitary drains,
and will these televised inspections aid them
[29:39] to do so? >> So yes, we do a regular clean
out of the drains, and we
[29:47] do film them. And it's a process. We can't
do them all in the same year. We we go
[29:54] through them regularly. It takes to do. The
whole city would take approximately three
[29:59] years. We just bought some new equipment or
ordering new equipment that will help us do
[30:03] it more often, right? >> That's correct. We're
purchasing new equipment.
[30:07] >> So we're purchasing our own truck now, so
we won't rely on other companies outside of
[30:11] Sandy and so on, so forth. So we'll be able
to do it on a more regular basis. And storm
[30:17] sewers, believe it or not, from what I heard,
there are places, yes, they get blocked or
they
[30:22] get dirty, but a lot of times they self-clean
because the flow of the water goes through
[30:26] them. So it's not every mile in every corner
that has to be done all the time. But what
[30:31] we're doing, and we'll hear from you people
tonight, and the survey that we've asked for
[30:36] is to identify areas that have become problems,
that we can start knowing where to
[30:42] intervene sooner. >> Okay. So you'll be in
more control if we have our own
[30:46] equipment. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
[30:49] >> Well, it could be, but we're looking at
other options. >> Jennifer. But.
[31:04] >> Hi there. Hello. Quick questions about the
terra cotta sponge park that's being built.
[31:13] Number one, we have the water, the big water
retention thing. It's been filled in about
two
[31:21] feet or a foot and a half now with rocks. The
day of the 20th, it filled in about 2.5 hours.
I
[31:29] videotaped it so and it was about five feet
deep at the time. I'm wondering if, because
[31:35] I did ask the construction workers and they
weren't sure, is there going to be a fence
[31:39] around that? According to the Quebec bylaw,
if there's things that have a the sides are
more
[31:45] than 65 degrees. There should be some kind
of a retention fence. It's right next to a
[31:52] baby park and less than, what, half a mile
away from a monument, like a monument to a
[31:59] kid that drowned because of flooding from the
creek. So I'm wondering if there's going to
[32:04] be a fence put up. >> I'll look into that one.
I'll have to get back to you.
[32:11] >> Okay? Okay. Second of all, the there is
water that is staying in the bottom of the
[32:17] ponds. As a result, the mosquitoes have multiplied
by about 10,000. So I'm wondering,
[32:25] wondering if there is anything that is going
to be done, because that was a concern that
[32:29] I did bring up before, that the water wouldn't
all drain. And so far I've been watching. I've
[32:34] taken pictures. At one point it was full of
green water. They've regulated that with
[32:40] some rocks, but they're still standing water
all over. >> That's a that's a new one
[32:44] we're digging right now at Belmont right there.
Yeah. >> On sandalwood.
[32:47] >> Yeah. Okay. So I mean, it's not even finished
yet. They're working on it.
[32:51] >> Well, the two parts that are finished. >>
Yeah.
[32:53] >> There's water water that's staying there.
>> But it's going to be a, I
[32:57] guess like an overall big project. Maybe that
water won't all be there because, because
[33:01] it will be absorbed by the other part that's
not finished yet. I don't, I don't know, but
[33:05] we'll we'll pay attention to it. I mean, a
great concern, but just let's, let's let them
[33:10] finish a project first. >> Yeah, I'm just asking
because we're living with the
[33:13] mosquitoes now. Okay. >> Good question. Let's
see how the water drains. That's all
[33:17] done. >> Last thing I just wanted to thank
you guys for the work
[33:20] that was done. They finished on the Friday
night, the night, the 19th, the berms in the
back
[33:25] of my my where I live. And as a result, the
water came within maybe four, three inches
of the
[33:31] top of those berms. And all the people on sandalwood
that the sandalwood that goes, none of
[33:38] them flooded this time. So I wanted to thank
you for that. Also. That's something that can
[33:46] be very easily done. Maybe we can look at those
kinds of things elsewhere in
[33:51] Pointe-Claire, as well as using something different
other than mulch in the baby park that is
[33:58] on that street, because the the flooding that
resulted there mostly was because of yes,
[34:05] there was a lot of rain, but all those drains
were filled with debris from the park that
[34:11] came out of terracotta, wiped all the mulch
out of the park into the street, blocked the
[34:17] sewers on one side, and there were a bunch
of gravel. Based on the work that's being done
[34:23] that blocked the sewers on the other side.
>> So great observation. We saw
[34:28] the same thing you saw, and all this information
is great. The from that building, that berm
[34:33] on terracotta and seeing the results of it
already, we've looked at putting them
[34:37] elsewhere already in your area to help because
it did save a lot of houses. So yes.
[34:42] >> Very doable and doesn't cost 2 million.
>> And we're using the dirt
[34:45] that we're digging out of the park. So yes,
so it was a it was financially a good thing.
[34:50] But thank you. >> Thank you. >> Gary Carr.
[35:07] >> Good evening. My question is on 329 the
corner with the trees. I know they went past
[35:14] their timeline of June. Does anybody know if
they've got an extension and to how far along
[35:21] it goes. >> Well we're working with them on
a bunch of stuff. Mr. Jawad.
[35:26] >> Yeah, that's correct. Public works went
to communicate with them. We gave them an extension
[35:31] till July, end of July to plant those five
trees. And they want to do supplemental planting
[35:39] there, I mean, sorry for the and landscaping.
Sorry. And we're analyzing that with them
[35:47] because that whole territory belongs to, to
them. So it's in the works in terms of moving
[35:52] that forward. >> Thank you very much. Thank
you.
[35:58] >> Sandra Mackey. >> Good evening. District
two. My question is around the land
[36:13] that was sold to the to the rim near Fairview
Forest. When a property is subdivided, my
[36:21] understanding is that the the person buying
the land has to either give 10% of the 10%
of
[36:29] the land that they buy to the city, or 10%
of the land value to the city. And I don't
know,
[36:35] because this was an expropriation, I guess.
Well, all I can tell you is applied,
[36:40] and maybe. >> Mr. Gerard knows more than I
do, except that when that line
[36:44] was expropriated by the rim, the government
had passed a special law giving them the
[36:48] power to take whatever land they needed, and
we didn't even get a chance to negotiate the
[36:52] price. We just mail the check in the mail.
So I doubt that they gave us 10% of the green
[36:57] park or whatever. We got nothing, and we're
probably haven't even got paid for the
[37:01] land yet. But they they had extreme powers.
>> So okay.
[37:04] >> Okay, we can verify, but I'm pretty sure
that's the right. >> Answer if you could verify.
[37:08] But thank you. I was just wondering. Thank
you so much. Good night.
[37:12] >> Thank you. >> So my. >> Question.
[37:14] >> Oh thank you. >> Victoria Golden. >> Good
evening, Mr. Mayor. And
[37:34] members of Council. This winter, the residents
of Greenwich Village presented a petition
[37:43] with you concerning the lack of winter overnight
street parking in our highly densified area.
[37:52] And my question is, what is the city developing
as a solution for the residents of our area?
[38:02] >> So it's been an item that's been on the
traffic committee for the last two meetings.
I
[38:06] believe we discussed it. We were looking at
all kinds of we've done all types of
[38:10] analysis in the area. We're looking at the
possibility of a of coming up with a special
app
[38:16] to have adaptive parking on street overnight
during the winter. I don't want to go into
[38:21] too much detail because it has to come through
here first and everybody has to know. So we're
[38:26] looking at it very seriously. Mr. Cieszynski
has brought it up quite a few times and has
[38:30] become a priority on our on our traffic committee,
and we're looking at every possible thing
[38:34] to try to find a solution. So you'll be you'll
hear something in the next month or so.
[38:39] >> Very good. So we, we, we will have a solution
for this coming winter.
[38:43] >> We'll have an answer will be a solution.
But you know. >> We need a solution because.
[38:47] >> It really affects us daily. It's, it's a
quality of life issue.
[38:50] >> We understand. So we're we're looking. >>
At it.
[38:53] >> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you.
>> Jennifer Olmstead.
[39:05] >> Sorry guys. This room is full here. So we
have to put chairs downstairs. So you might
[39:10] have to bring them up here. They'll have to
I think they have a mic downstairs. Right.
[39:14] They have a mic downstairs. So. >> You know.
>> She's coming.
[39:23] >> Oh thank you. >> I like the elevators working.
>> Hello. Good evening folks.
[39:41] Good evening. It's actually it's it's rather
premature. It's rather premature to be up
[39:47] here because I was here to be available to
ask questions following our evaluation. So
I
[39:55] don't know. Do I wait for later to start asking
these questions. >> Right now.
[39:59] >> You can ask it now. >> Go ahead. I have
I have no questions at this point because
[40:03] I don't know what your outcome is, what your
evaluation is going to be or your.
[40:07] >> Approval because you have you get to ask
a question before we vote on it. Anyway,
[40:12] you get on the item right now, is it on there.
>> Just for minor variation.
[40:16] And her question pertained to Pape. >> It's
it's straight up. So I,
[40:21] I really don't know what question I can ask.
Now this is the problem. Is there anything
[40:27] that. >> What would you what was your your
question? What were you
[40:30] intending to ask? What was the question you
wanted to ask? >> The question would be just
[40:34] about the approval. That was all. >> And you.
[40:37] >> Have the conditions of approval. >> Are.
Exactly refused yet, so
[40:40] you can't ask a question. >> Exactly. >> There
you go.
[40:42] >> So now. >> Return to your seat. >> Enjoy
the popcorn. Can I ask
[40:46] later? >> No, there'll be no question. You'll
just hear the answer.
[40:51] >> Okay. I'm sorry. I'm new at space, so. >>
Yeah. Well, you know.
[40:58] >> I right now I have no concerns. >> You want
to know the answer?
[41:01] >> I want to know the outcome. But I also want
to understand. >> But all I can say to you,
[41:07] miss, is the the space is for an extension
and renovation. >> Yes it is.
[41:15] >> Okay. Are you the owner? >> I am the you
already know the.
[41:18] >> I know, yeah. >> You just want the answer.
>> I just would like the answer
[41:23] and and to understand. >> You have to wait
until the Council vote.
[41:26] >> We have to vote on it. We haven't voted
on it yet. >> But just. Thank you. Thank
[41:31] you. Okay. >> Excuse excuse me, Mr. Mayor,
but just to clarify, aren't
[41:34] isn't that one of the items like at article
17, where residents can speak.
[41:38] >> Minor variation? Mr. Socinski, it's not
a minor variation.
[41:41] >> It's okay. Next. >> Thank you, Amanda. Francis.
>> Good evening. Good evening.
[41:56] My question today is related to the property
at 106 Lakeshore, but can be extended to all
[42:02] houses that fall under the inventory of heritage
homes in Pointe Claire. My question is
[42:08] whether or not the City of Montreal is involved
in the approval process for the
[42:14] demolition plans, or the replacement plans.
>> Only if it was built before
[42:19] 1940. Right. >> So in this case, the house
in question was built in the
[42:24] year 1900. So it is included in your inventory
of houses. So the city of Montreal would be
[42:29] involved. >> Montreal Montreal is not involved.
[42:32] >> Quebec, Quebec. Quebec is. >> Involved but
not Montreal. >> So it's the province of
[42:37] Quebec. >> Yeah, but Minister Quebec but not
Montreal city.
[42:40] >> Okay. In that case, when does that approval
process happen? In regards or in order
[42:45] of Pointe Claire's approval. >> Process, they
have 90 days. >> After Pointe Claire is
[42:50] approved. >> Yes, exactly. >> Okay. So it's
the demolition
[42:53] and the. >> And then we send the the decision
to Minister for
[42:57] culture. And they have 90 days to come back.
>> And that's for the
[43:01] replacement plan as well. Or just the demolition.
Both for both.
[43:05] >> The demolition. Yeah. But for us, it's probably
both. But for the demolition.
[43:10] >> Okay. Understood. And just to clarify, the
replacement plan has not yet been approved.
[43:14] Seen as the exemptions are up for discussion
today. >> It hasn't been approved or
[43:20] refused. It's up for discussion. >> Okay. >>
Perfect. Right.
[43:23] >> Not yet. Yes. >> All right. Thank you. >>
Olivier.
[43:40] >> Okay. >> Good evening everyone. My question
is concerning the
[44:07] underground garbage bins that are on Dufresne
and on Mason. If there are any plans to
[44:11] improve the situation or to replace the situation,
because I live directly in front of it.
[44:19] And it's been like, not to be melodramatic,
but living like in City Dump, it's really,
[44:24] really bad. And I was wondering if, if you
guys are aware of how bad the situation is
as far
[44:29] as overflow and, you know, abuse of it, and
you know, how people are treating it and just
[44:36] generally what your situation is. >> All I
can tell you is I know
[44:41] that about 4 or 5 years ago, we had situations
there and we, we, I thought we had corrected
them.
[44:46] And I was there the other day for an event,
and I was actually quite impressed how
[44:50] clean it was. Maybe I was just lucky it was
that day. But if you're telling us there's
a
[44:55] problem, we're going to send people buying
on a regular basis and we'll let us analyze
[44:59] and we'll we'll see what we can do. >> Okay?
Because I'm always on
[45:02] the phone with public works. And the situation
is, is absolutely terrible.
[45:05] >> People are putting stuff beside the bin.
They're putting it around the bin or they're
[45:09] constant. >> I'm constantly picking up people's
garbage. I'm
[45:12] constantly because I'm literally the house
right in front. I'm constantly
[45:14] destroying boxes, picking up people's garbage
on the phone. With public works, there are
[45:18] it's just it's it's wretched. >> It's completely
wretched. Can we get your information?
[45:23] Yes. Take his name. We'll get back to you.
Because we did have a solution a few years
[45:26] back. We'll take a look at it again. Okay.
I'm sorry. I didn't know that. This is the
[45:31] first I've heard of it recently, so we'll.
I'll talk to Mr. Gerardo, see what we can do.
[45:35] >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good night.
[45:38] >> Debbie. >> Good evening. >> Good evening.
[45:49] >> Are we going to learn and to listen for
the last 12 years, when we're building all
the
[45:54] high rise buildings on Greenland and wetland,
and now we're paying the price as a
[46:01] citizen resident of Pointe-Claire for all the
flood, for any rain it's going to be,
[46:06] that is the normal. It's not the extra. So
are you going to stop building all this high
[46:11] rise building and hotel or whatever until to
fix the sewer system, the drainage system,
[46:21] the road when it's all cracked and hold. So
when you go into to listen to us as, as a
[46:32] citizen resident for 40, 50 years here, we're
paying the price because you're paying 50%
[46:37] from the from the damage. That's not enough.
So please, when are you going to stop
[46:43] building all that and to care about the infrastructure
for the city. I asked this question
[46:49] since four years and never happened. When exactly?
Please. >> I'm going to answer you
[46:54] because I've heard the same question many times,
sir. And when you talk about that, we've
[47:01] dug up green space to build on. I'd like you
to identify what green space we've actually
dug
[47:06] up to build on, because what you're referring
to is the buildings on Boulevard, right?
[47:11] >> Yes. >> All so. >> Boulevard and the wetland
[47:14] also. >> But let me just finish the boulevard,
which was zoned
[47:18] industrial before that part of Hymans Boulevard
going back to 2008, 2011, when they came up
[47:24] with a new urban plan and they had to the municipalities
had to identify areas for high
[47:28] density residential. They identified that area.
They got rid of the one story industrial
[47:34] buildings with large asphalt parking lots.
And they put. Over the years, once the REM
[47:40] got announced condo project, which had already
been zoned for those condo projects or
[47:44] apartment buildings or high rise, whatever
you want to call them, had to meet the new
norms
[47:48] of water migration in 2018 2020. So the old
industrial buildings with the flat roofs and
the big
[47:56] parking lots, all the water went into sewer
system. Now, when those buildings were built,
[48:01] all the water off of a flat roof, which are
big, flat roofs, have to go into a pipe, into
[48:06] the retention tank does not go into our sewer
system right away. All that parking lot that
[48:11] was asphalt is now 65% green space, which is
grass. And there's trees and there's
[48:17] gardens. So there's if you honestly look at
Google Maps and you look at before and
[48:23] after, there has been a huge improvement of
green space on Hymas Boulevard, and the water
[48:29] retention is a thousand times better than what
it was. So it's not the new buildings are
[48:33] the problem. It's the old buildings that are
the problem. It's the large parking lots.
[48:37] It's the large those, those. We have to try
to find solutions for now. And we're going
to be
[48:42] looking at that. So yeah, that's the answer.
So we're doing what we can do. But we
[48:50] have to we have to be honest with each other.
And those actually added to helping.
[48:54] >> Yeah. But the waste water for 5000 apartments,
where it goes, it goes to the drain.
[49:00] That's why we all, we have our backup. But
but also with a soccer field there and with
too
[49:06] many green spots there, and they built on it.
I lived there since 33 years. I know
[49:11] everything in the Pointe-Claire. I'm asking
just we have to pay attention and we have to
learn
[49:15] from our mistakes and we do better decision
to stop until they fix the infrastructure.
[49:21] That's all what I'm asking. I'm not arguing
with you. I'm not. >> I'm just I.
[49:25] >> Comment we're all paying the price for that.
>> Perfect. So we are
[49:28] absolutely. Since the month of November, since
this council got elected. And everybody here
[49:32] will tell you we have made water migration
a priority, flooding a priority. We are
[49:36] working on it. We have we and I have to tell
you, I'm so proud of our services, the work
that
[49:41] they have done to analyze the piping system,
to try to find solutions and try to identify
[49:46] areas. So we had five areas up until June 20th,
the last rainfall that we just had, we
[49:51] had five areas that were priorities. And now
that's changed because all new stuff
[49:56] came out of this last storm. So we're learning
too, but we're adapting and we're working hard
[50:00] at it. Okay. And we're putting the money where
it has to go. We're not. If you look at our
[50:05] PTI and we've, we've cut a lot of other projects
all going into infrastructure and water
[50:09] retention. Now that's where our money is going
to. And tonight we're adopting a plan to help
[50:13] citizens financially that comes out of all
that money too. So we are doing everything
we can.
[50:18] We had 152mm of rain. It's not an excuse. It's
a lot of rain. We learned a lot. The lady was
[50:25] talking about bark chips and this and that
blocking sewer that we just learned that we
[50:29] learned everybody who gives us information
about something, we're learning, and we're
[50:32] trying to analyze and see what we can do better.
So we are taking it very, very serious.
[50:36] And I'm very confident to say that. >> Good.
Thank you. I
[50:40] understand it's good, but we have I'm just
mentioning to just highlight and we have to
[50:45] work harder. My second question, please, is
the renovation for Aqua the poor Aqua Park.
Yeah.
[50:56] The the gym, what they call the wet room is
so old and like, you know, no ventilation in
it.
[51:04] And people, they work there. They spend every,
every shift, five hours as when we spend 8
[51:10] or 6 or six hours a week there and it's no
room to walk around it, are they are serious
plans
[51:17] to renovate the wet room? >> I don't know,
I don't I don't know the plans. I don't.
[51:22] >> Remember because I ask everybody there.
They don't know.
[51:24] >> Oh, I don't know. I know it's a big project.
It's a two year project. It's a is that
[51:29] weight room? Part of. >> The weight room is
not part of the renovation project? No.
[51:33] >> Okay. But I don't want it. But if you. >>
Find it is serious, really?
[51:37] >> Okay, we'll take a we'll take the note of
it. But the other option you have is you go
[51:42] to our new building on on Brunswick, which
is like, you got everything.
[51:45] >> I went there and it's so busy there because
that is close to us really. I live in
[51:50] Maywood and that is, you know, next door to
me. And also there's a lot of people there,
[51:55] the senior, you know, and people also work
there. We have to take care of them. Okay.
[51:59] >> We'll take I mean. >> The ventilation, it's
no ventilation at all. You know,
[52:03] imagine when 20 people there and all sweating
how we smell that room.
[52:07] >> May or may I comment? >> Go ahead. >> Mr.
Mr. Al-dabi. Yes. We've
[52:11] known each other a long time. It's been four
years. We've been bringing up this question,
[52:15] and I will respond again. You've been answered
numerous times and I respect you greatly.
[52:22] But to blame them on development, whether you
have a park, an industrial building or
[52:28] a high rise building, doesn't stop the rain
that falls from the sky. Okay, first. Secondly,
[52:36] we have a two tier rain system and I've explained
this to you numerous times. The water, the
[52:41] pee, the poop. We've never had issues with
our waste management system. Our problem
[52:46] is simple when the rain falls from the sky,
it goes into our pluvial system and that's
what
[52:51] gets overwhelmed. That is 90% of the cases
of homes in Pointe-Claire. Yes, there are
[52:57] 10% water flows into the waste management system,
and if you don't have a proper backflow
[53:02] valve, you could have issues. And just to repeat
the mayor's point, every time we build,
[53:09] every time, whether it be we tear down industrial
building for residential, commercial or
[53:15] industrial, we are becoming more resilient.
Those parking lots, which were 70, 80% cement,
[53:25] that rainwater fell directly into the pluvial
system. Adding to our problem, any new project
[53:33] must adhere to the new bylaws, which Pointe-Claire,
by the way, has one of the strictest
[53:38] standard in Montreal, if I'm not mistaken.
They have to create water retention basins
[53:43] to limit a 30 millimeter runoff. We're at ten
millimeters every time we build, whether if
you
[53:49] don't condos, you don't like them industrial,
commercial. Every time we build a new
[53:54] development, we are becoming more resilient.
I hope I answer this question and.
[54:00] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Sewer
System. Since 50 and 60, we didn't update it
[54:08] when Pointe-Claire was a small town. Now it's
a big city with all this horizon, over 5000
[54:15] units built just for the last ten years. Where
is this wastewater goes? Thank you for
[54:21] your answer, and I hope really we face it seriously
so we don't have everybody to come
[54:26] for every rain. We have a flood. Thank you.
>> Kevin Zhao.
[54:45] >> Are we into all the water issues now? >>
No, it's because it didn't
[54:49] say water. >> Okay, good. Okay. No, I just
want to know when we get there.
[54:53] Let me know when we get to that point. Okay?
Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening everyone.
[54:58] First, I just simply introduce myself. My name
is Kevin Zhao and I'm a convenience store
[55:05] owner. And my store located at 477 Amderma.
And my concern is related with the agenda for
[55:15] today, 17 point I think three. Sorry, 17.4
to 17.1 okay. And I, I appeared here for the
[55:36] previous council meeting for last year because
I believe this property was important to
[55:43] our neighborhood. Okay. And I'm here again
today because my mind is not changed. Okay.
And
[55:55] I respectfully ask the council will think seriously.
Consider a mixed use redevelopment with
[56:04] commercial space on the ground floor and residential
units above. Okay. And this
[56:12] convenience store and daycare on this site
has served local residents for many years.
As a
[56:19] neighbor neighborhood grows, the service become
more valuable, so not less so. This
[56:24] is my point. And also, Mr. Mayor, if you remember
last year, we do have a brief
[56:37] conversation at that part and. We barely discussed
this possibility of the commercial
[56:45] space at street level with residential above.
And I appreciate I appreciate for you
[56:51] positive attitude with this, and I hope the
Council will continue to give this serious
[56:58] consideration. Okay. I also brought the copy
for the last years, the presentation and the
[57:05] residential residents partition. I'm not asking
anyone to revisit the past. I'm just
[57:13] simply hope the voice of the local residents
continue to be considered. Okay. So here I
[57:21] also just have my two questions. Okay. First,
has the city firmly evaluated a mixed use
[57:29] opinion for this property instead of only for
residential redevelopment? Redevelopment?
[57:36] Okay, this is my first question. >> I would
have to say that when the the the owner of
the
[57:43] property presented a project to the city and
the project is presented now as a townhouses.
[57:49] And that was his choice. And the zoning, you
know, the, the, the mixed use was another
[57:55] option. It was was not presented and the townhouses
were presented. And that's what
[57:59] the city has dealt with. >> Yeah, I understand
because as the as the developer, they
[58:07] can decide what they want to rebuild there.
But also I consider the city can think
[58:13] about the voice from all the neighbors living
around there and to see the, the important
[58:19] thing that all the convenient service can keep
stay in that local area. So this is my point.
[58:30] >> Okay, >> Okay, so. >> 19 seconds. Go ahead.
[58:38] >> Yeah. My second question is the same. So
I respectfully ask the council to consider
a
[58:44] solution that supports both the housing and
the the daily needs of this community. This
is like
[58:52] my wish. >> Thank you all. You'll see tonight
there's a project on
[58:56] the table that we're going to discuss, which
are townhouses. So that's what we'll be
[59:00] considering as that project is on the table
tonight. >> Okay. So it's been the
[59:04] decision has been made or. >> Has not been
made. I see voted on, but the project has
[59:09] been deposited. Will vote on it tonight. >>
Okay. All right. Thank you.
[59:13] >> Ken Lyons. >> Mr. mayor, if I may, may I
go ahead? I just got a to
[59:22] answer Mrs. Was question from the beginning.
I don't know if she's still here. I think
[59:27] Jennifer back >> Downstairs. Well, if she can
hear me, essentially there will
[59:32] be a fence around the. She's not there anymore.
She's downstairs. Okay. So there will
[59:39] be a fence surrounding the retention basin
on terracotta. Thank you. You're welcome.
[59:46] >> Okay. Next. >> So, Ken Lyons. Oh. He's coming.
No, no, he's not coming.
[59:51] >> No. >> No no. Ken Lyon. >> Okay. No! Ken
Lyon, no.
[59:55] >> Ken Lyons. So Drew Matthews. >> Thank you.
>> Oh, sorry. Hans volstad. Oh,
[1:00:10] you're Mr. Matthews. Yes. Okay, just go ahead.
That's fine. >> Thank you. Good evening, Mr.
[1:00:17] Mayor and council members. I'm here referring
to 17.15. A permit for 106 Bord du Lac. Our
[1:00:28] property touches on this property. So our concern
is, will the council or the
[1:00:36] planning department try to maintain the character
of the properties along the lakeshore?
[1:00:43] Because I'm looking at the the the the variances,
the, the they're asking for, to me, it
[1:00:51] sounds like there's a lot of, a lot of changes
they want to make. And the last one of all,
[1:00:58] a ten meter wide driveway really strikes me
as really excessive. I just want to know
[1:01:05] if the Council planning Department will try
to maintain the character of properties
[1:01:09] along the lakeshore. >> All I can tell you
is that the project has brought been
[1:01:14] brought to us to look at it, to look at tonight,
to present to you tonight and decide if we'll
[1:01:19] go with or not. But they're planning in the
Park Committee and the Council have looked
at
[1:01:24] the project and all the different elements
of it, and we'll be making a decision on
[1:01:29] it tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good night.
>> Okay. So if if I look over
[1:01:41] all the papers, all the questions not we may
see. So now we would start, I'm
[1:01:51] assuming, naming names that are. >> You want
to say something? Thank you for being patient.
[1:01:56] What we did tonight was we let everybody else
that didn't have a flooding issue get their
[1:02:00] question asked so they could leave. And normally
we only hold our question period for 90
[1:02:04] minutes. We want to give you all a chance to
be heard. And we want to be you know, we
[1:02:09] don't want to limit to only three things on
the same topic and so on and so forth. So I
[1:02:14] just want to make a couple of statements, and
maybe we'll help answer some of your
[1:02:18] questions while you're here. I mean, I can
honestly tell you that every one of us are
here,
[1:02:22] are here, and we understand your concerns and
we have all the answers. No, we don't, but
[1:02:27] I can tell you that we are working really,
really hard. And not only us, we're hiring
[1:02:31] experts, our teams, we're working with Montreal,
we're working with other
[1:02:34] municipalities to see what we can do. It's
a new reality, and yes, we can. You can blame
the
[1:02:40] city. Their sewers didn't work, and so on and
so forth. But the way I look at it is that
we
[1:02:45] have to work on this all together. One of the
tools that we'll be giving you tonight is
[1:02:50] will be adopting a financial aid program, which
will help you make your house more water
[1:02:56] resilient. If it's a sump pump, if it's a backflow
valve, it's, you know, some people can't
[1:03:01] afford the 1200 bucks for backflow valve. So
this will give you up to $5,000 to help
[1:03:06] you make your house more resilient. And together,
we'll do what we can do on our side.
[1:03:11] You guys have to do what you can do on your
side and you know it won't. It won't happen
[1:03:16] overnight. And we'll have another rainstorm
before everybody makes their house
[1:03:19] better. But we're there. We're here to try
to help you and work together to face the new
[1:03:25] realities. And they are there. And they're
not just baby reality. These are huge
[1:03:29] problems that just happen. The other night
when we had 152mm of rain. No, we we, we were
[1:03:34] following. We have a direct link with the weather
station. They're calling us, giving us
[1:03:39] warnings, and they're saying 6 to 9mm, 6 to
9mm, 6 to 9mm. One cloud formed over the highway.
[1:03:44] And we end up with 110, 152 to 172mm of rain.
The good thing is that we had started on the
[1:03:51] Thursday before. Believe it or not, we have
protocols to do certain procedures around the
[1:03:55] city to get ready because we're expecting 25
to 30 or 40mm of rain Thursday, Friday. And
we
[1:04:01] had already started that those procedures.
So I mean, yeah, we got hit. We got hit just
as
[1:04:06] hard as you guys with city buildings flooded
everywhere else. But we were doing
[1:04:10] everything we could. And is there more we can
do? Yes. Is there more that each homeowner
[1:04:14] can do? Yes. Can we help you? And and we'll
be hiring a company that you'll be able to
[1:04:19] use to help you evaluate your house, to tell
you what you need to do to make your house
[1:04:23] more resilient. And that's the only way we're
going to get through it. And we have made it
[1:04:28] a priority in our budgets. And we've sat down.
We've had six meetings over for our budget
[1:04:32] for this year and next year, moving forward
for next 2 or 3 years, all our investments
are
[1:04:37] going to go into water migration and and infrastructure.
And, you know,
[1:04:40] it's easy to say change all the pipes and increase
the size of the pipes. That's not the only
[1:04:44] problem. And that's not the only solution.
There's others, you know, we're building a
[1:04:48] sponge park at, at on Belmont near Chaddlewood.
That's going to alleviate a lot of the water
[1:04:52] coming out of terracotta that was flooding
all that area. We built that berm that was
part
[1:04:56] of our our new program this year to build up
berm along terracotta. You heard the lady
[1:05:01] say probably 30, 40 homes that burned and they
finish on Friday. It saved them. So we
[1:05:06] are doing what we can do, and we are going
to keep doing what we can do. And we're we
learn
[1:05:11] new information. We're going to hear new stuff
tonight, which will help us evaluate and see
[1:05:15] what we can do. Sometimes it's an easy fix,
sometimes it's much more complex. And the ones
[1:05:20] that are complex, just, for instance, just
changing the size of a pipe that we know
[1:05:24] we'd like to change in one area. If we increase
the size of the pipe, it will alleviate
[1:05:28] pressure over there and won't cause any problem.
It's almost a two year process to get the
[1:05:32] permit from the city of Montreal, to just change
the size of the pipe, because they
[1:05:36] have to do their studies, they have to make
sure that we're not going to affect another.
So
[1:05:41] it's a joint venture, but all I can tell you
is you can be confident that this council is.
[1:05:46] We're doing everything we can and and we'll
keep you up to date. We've held three meetings.
[1:05:50] We're giving information sessions that we've
been trying to be as transparent and honest
[1:05:53] and let's, you know, work together to alleviate
all the issues that we're having. So on
[1:05:57] that note, the microphone will be open and
we'll take your questions, we'll hear your
[1:06:01] concerns, and we'll hopefully we we can find
some things out and learn some things. And
we
[1:06:05] can you can help us and we can help you. Thank
you. >> Oh.
[1:06:11] >> No, no, no, you have your name on the list.
Okay. When your name is called, you'll
[1:06:16] come up. Thank you. No, no, I'm I'm open to
the list. Sorry, I'm opening the mic to the
list.
[1:06:23] We'll follow the list. >> Thank you, madam,
for the correct pronunciation of my
[1:06:29] name. >> Thank you. >> Hello, everybody. I'm
going
[1:06:37] to do three things today and none of them are
questions. I'm going to make an impact
[1:06:41] statement. I'm going to list ten questions
related to the engineering firm. I did forward
[1:06:47] my email to you if you didn't get it. Mike
has it. And and mayor at pointe-claire dot
CA
[1:06:53] didn't work, by the way. >> Okay. >> So I'll
start with that. And
[1:06:57] then finally, I'm a solutions guy. I'm a fixer.
That's what I did all my career. I worked for
[1:07:02] Abbott Labs. I used to fix problems. So I'd
like to also offer my services as a fixer.
[1:07:07] That's too much time. So my this is about the
Del Mar deluge. So this is a resident
[1:07:14] impact statement. So good evening, Mr. Mayor
and members of Council. Tonight I'd like to
[1:07:18] speak about what I have come to call the Del
Mar deluge. I use that name because I believe
the
[1:07:23] flooding affecting our neighborhood. District
eight, district seven deserves to be
[1:07:27] recognized as more than isolated incidents.
It has become a pattern that residents
[1:07:31] are living through, and it deserves to be understood.
The Del Mar Watershed
[1:07:36] Infrastructure Project begins where the water
starts its journey towards Lake Saint
[1:07:39] Louis. In my opinion, the upstream capacity
was increased before the downstream
[1:07:44] infrastructure was improved. If that is true,
then the project began at the wrong end. Before
[1:07:49] the Del Mar watershed project flooding was
simply not part of our lives. It was not a
concern
[1:07:55] for me. More importantly, it was not a concern
for the residents I've spoken with over
[1:07:59] the past year. I've gone door to door and listened.
One family told me they lived in
[1:08:04] their home for 20 years without basement flooding
until recently. Another family 30
[1:08:08] years. Another told me 40 years. Just this
past week, I met a lady named Susan who told
me
[1:08:13] that her family has owned a home for 70 years
and until recently, they have never
[1:08:19] experienced basement flooding. Every one of
those conversations ended with the
[1:08:24] same question why is this happening now? It
never happened before. I also spoke
[1:08:30] with the husband of a woman who works at a
local restaurant. He told me they have made
three
[1:08:34] insurance claims three times. Their basement
has been flooded and they needed to be repaired
[1:08:39] three times. It has been flooded in three years.
When he contacted the city, he was told
[1:08:44] the flooding was caused by an amount of rainfall
and it was an act of nature. The residents
[1:08:48] hear that explanation. They also remember decades
of major storms without flooding. Heavy
[1:08:53] rain is not new. Major storms are not new.
The what is new is hearing the same words repeated
[1:09:00] through out our community. We never flooded
until recently. During the most recent flood,
I
[1:09:06] personally witnessed torrents of water beginning
at the intersection of Del Mar and De
[1:09:10] Cano. I watched that water travel down Del
Mar. Continue on to Saint Louis, through
[1:09:15] Broadview, Champlain towards Donegani. After
the flood, I drove through the neighborhood.
[1:09:19] I did not need an engineering drawing to see
the flood map. The flood map was visible in
[1:09:24] the piles of ruined belongings placed on the
curb outside people's homes. It all points
[1:09:29] directly to the Del Mar infrastructure improvements
during the same storm. Flooding
[1:09:33] also affected highway 40, resulting in the
closure of the eastbound Sources Boulevard
[1:09:38] exit. To me, those observations raise an important
question could these events be connected
[1:09:44] after the flood, the optics weren't good. In
fact, they were missing. I apologize, I
[1:09:49] didn't. >> Know, I just I just want to ask
you to be respectful of the
[1:09:53] time because everybody is going to get the
same amount of time. We want to give as many
people
[1:09:58] as much time, chance. >> When my impact statement
is over, I will. I will do that.
[1:10:02] Thank you for freezing seconds. >> Let's go.
>> So our community is not
[1:10:06] asking for sympathy. Our community is asking
for answers. Thank you.
[1:10:10] >> Thank you. Perfect. And you're going to
send us those ten questions, right? Thank you.
[1:10:20] I met with this gentleman just before the meeting
tonight, and he had some great information.
[1:10:25] And I've asked I've asked to sit down with
you and with Mr. Girouard so we can understand
[1:10:30] what you're telling. Exactly what you just
told us. We'd like to understand what you're
[1:10:33] telling us, and we can probably learn from
it. So thank you, thank you, thank you.
[1:10:38] >> Stephanie. Lorraine. >> Danny. Expertise.
My name is Stephanie. Lorraine, I am a I
[1:10:58] am a member of the board of directors for prima
three. Prima three co property, which
[1:11:03] represents 28 townhouse units at the end of
Avenue Mason, which runs parallel to Jaime's
[1:11:08] Boulevard. I'm joined this evening by several
of my neighbors if they want to wave.
[1:11:14] And I wanted to just provide some context about
the situation that we have been
[1:11:18] experiencing since 2022. So for context, our
townhomes were delivered less than five years
[1:11:24] ago, and we've continually dealt with poor
water drainage from our property during any
[1:11:28] heavy rainfall. There are actually nine recorded
incidents that I've brought
[1:11:33] with me today in the last four years, where
residents have had to spend hours manually
pumping
[1:11:39] water from their garages and their common areas
to avoid flooding in their basements.
[1:11:45] And then we've had three instances in the last
four years where, unfortunately, our
[1:11:49] efforts were not able to prevent this from
happening, and we've had to rebuild
[1:11:55] garages and basements from the ground up. And
our community is only sorry. It's been a really
[1:12:01] tough time, but our community is only five
years old. Given the frequency and severity
of
[1:12:10] these events, we would like to ask the city
and the council what steps we can take together
[1:12:17] with the engineering department and your council,
to have an assessment of the drainage
[1:12:23] infrastructure between our property and the
municipal stormwater systems to determine
[1:12:28] the cause of these reoccurring floods. Yeah.
So we're looking for guidance today on what
next
[1:12:35] steps we can take to try to protect the safety
of our community. We've spent many
[1:12:40] hours waiting in hazardous water with electrical
issues, and we're we're just trying to
[1:12:48] protect the safety of our community and look
for your guidance.
[1:12:50] >> We have some pictures here. If you want
to take a. >> Look, just give the pictures
[1:12:55] to the police. >> So and I apologize for I
didn't think I was going to be
[1:12:59] emotional. >> You're allowed to be. >> You're
allowed to be
[1:13:02] emotional. It's not it's not a fun time. And
we've all had. Don't worry about that. Listen,
[1:13:06] I Andrews brought it up quite often. It's been
an ongoing issue in that project for a
[1:13:11] long time. I was here in 17 to 21 when some
issues started. We had we had some issues with
the
[1:13:21] whole project. Overall, I don't want to get
into details. I thought some of it had been
[1:13:26] resolved, but obviously with the flooding that
just happened last week, I know that we sent
[1:13:32] some people over there to ditch seem to be
flowing, but it wasn't probably flowing enough
[1:13:36] because the amount of water and so on and so
forth. So I'm going to meet with the director
[1:13:41] general. We got your contact information. And
again, maybe it's a situation where we have
[1:13:44] to look at if our biggest problem in there
is not only it's a lot of it is on private
[1:13:50] property and you guys have an association and
so on and so forth. So we have to look at
[1:13:55] the legalities. We have to look all around
that. And what's our responsibility? What's
your
[1:13:59] responsibility? There's lots to look at, but
I can tell you that we will we'll we'll we'll
[1:14:03] look at it. We're looking at them all. And
you get on the list and we'll reach out to
you
[1:14:08] and we'll try to understand your particular
problem and take it from there.
[1:14:13] >> Thank you. We we appreciate your investment
in time in the water issues holistically
[1:14:17] across point, Claire. And I think know that
our co-ownership. We are 28 owners,
[1:14:23] owners and occupants who love the city of Pointe
Claire. I grew up here for the first 20
[1:14:28] years of my life and moved back to raise my
family. And so just know that you have partners
in
[1:14:34] collaboration with us to find that solution.
We're ready to do our part and have been
[1:14:39] consistently spending dollars on evac and maintaining
the ditch and trying to do our part.
[1:14:44] So please just know that we can be partners
in this together. >> But any information that
you
[1:14:49] have that could help us, like you say, you
had Sandy back coming, you've cleaned the
[1:14:53] ditch. All this kind of stuff would be great
information for us that we could work with
that
[1:14:57] would help us understand, okay, you're cleaning.
Let's sit down, let's have a conversation and
[1:15:01] get all that information together and we'll
see. No promises. But we, we'll, we'll,
[1:15:06] we'll work with you if we can. >> And who should
we share? I know we've reached out a couple
[1:15:10] of times because we've prepared a report of
all the incidences and all of our efforts today.
[1:15:15] What is the most appropriate place to send
that information to ensure that it reaches
you?
[1:15:19] >> Well, you can send it right to my office
if you want to. John dot belvedere at
[1:15:23] pointe-claire dot CA. There's no problem. >>
Okay. We'll reshare. Thank
[1:15:26] you so much. >> For your time on the internet.
Eric has something.
[1:15:29] >> To say. May I ask a question? Just curious.
28 homes, the way they're structured, do they
[1:15:34] fall? Currently, under our proposed bylaw that
we're. >> Well, that's what.
[1:15:38] >> That's what's you know what I mean? That's
an interesting question to.
[1:15:41] >> Yeah, that's what we have to. >> Look at.
Yeah, exactly. >> You ask that question. We're
[1:15:45] going to look at it. Thank you. >> Jean Belanger.
>> Good evening, Mr. Mayor. And
[1:15:58] council members. I was first time I'm ever
attending a council meeting. I am I am a 42
[1:16:05] year resident on Winthrop. And I know you are
well aware of what happened on Winthrop. This
[1:16:11] is the first time that we've ever been flooded
in, in the 42 years, two times in a row,
[1:16:18] within two years. So. Susan Weaver actually
asked the question that one of the
[1:16:26] questions I had concerning the Sinovac, I'm
a little unclear. So you mentioned that
[1:16:32] Pointe-Claire is getting their own machine
to do this type of cleanup.
[1:16:35] >> Over the past, we have we have a piece of
equipment that can do some of the work, but
[1:16:40] we've been using standing back for many years
to do our our regular maintenance, let's call
[1:16:44] it. Okay. >> And so that has been in place
in the past.
[1:16:47] >> That's been in the, in, in place for a while
now. Yes. >> Yeah.
[1:16:51] >> And. And now what we've done is we've, we're
ordering our own vehicle just so we have it
[1:16:57] all the time and we can be quicker cleaning
some spots when there is an issue, like
[1:17:02] when Del Mar flooded, had we had our own truck,
maybe we could have gone. And just this
[1:17:07] just maybe it's just I don't know if it would
work, but, you know, we go and clean off those
[1:17:12] sewers with our own truck instead of having
a man in there with a shovel. Whatever
[1:17:16] is going to make it better, we think it will.
So these are all things we're looking at trying
[1:17:21] to do. >> Okay, well, I'm grateful that it's
being looked at and
[1:17:24] I'm sure you are. There does seem to clearly
be a problem suddenly in in the area. Yeah.
[1:17:30] The other thing that I wanted to bring up was
the Saint Louis. A lot of changes were done
to
[1:17:35] that school. And so a lot of the grass area
was changed. And it's now all wood chips, which
[1:17:40] I think are contributing to perhaps the flow.
Good as as well as they have a, a bus lane
[1:17:49] now that goes around there, which is asphalt,
which has a slight slope towards Winthrop
[1:17:54] as well. So that might not be helping our situation
either. It's, it's good to know that
[1:18:04] you're, you're doing what you can and that
you are aware of the problem. But it's a little
[1:18:08] frightening to think that this like everyone's
saying it might happen again. I, as a homeowner,
[1:18:14] I am putting in place the, the things that
I can backflow valves and sub pumps and, and
[1:18:19] so on. >> And understand the, the flood anxiety,
if you want to
[1:18:24] call that. Yeah. Because even though you might
get hit this time, you might get hit next
[1:18:28] time. And, you know, we don't know what Mother
Nature has to offer anymore. And they tell
us
[1:18:33] one thing. We get something completely different.
So we don't, I mean, I don't again,
[1:18:36] we don't have a solution for that. >> No.
[1:18:39] >> But the best we can do is at some point,
if we've done everything we can, the
[1:18:43] homeowner, like if you've done everything you
can, I've done everything in my house. And
at
[1:18:47] some point you have to say, okay, I've done
what I can and let the, you know, hopefully
it
[1:18:52] all works out and hopefully we won't have to
test them. >> Right? Well, I'm not an
[1:18:56] engineer. I don't understand how it works.
And I know you have an engineering department.
[1:19:00] It just is is helpful for us to know that you
are. You do acknowledge the problem in the
[1:19:05] area and that there's something that could
be done. And on a positive note, I really wanted
[1:19:09] to say that I was very impressed with the quick
mobilization that you put into
[1:19:13] place of taking all the debris off everyone's
property in a very short amount of time.
[1:19:17] >> Well. >> That help with anxiety too. >>
And it did.
[1:19:20] >> And, you know, again, I'm going to compliment
the the public works guys. And even
[1:19:25] before we got that, that flooding that day
on that Thursday, I mentioned earlier,
[1:19:30] we had already started putting in procedures
into place just in case because we were
[1:19:34] expecting not that much. We were expecting
something earlier on the Friday. And it
[1:19:38] goes to show you that we've, we've, we've changed
our whole operating procedures. We're
[1:19:41] following the weather, and we're giving ourselves
time now to do certain things that
[1:19:45] hopefully will help that, you know, if we do
get the big rains that we're well, well
[1:19:50] prepared. And yeah, it's it's a joint effort,
right. And we're going to keep on trying to
look
[1:19:56] at solutions and procedures to try to alleviate
as much of as we can.
[1:20:00] >> Okay. Well, thank you very much. >> Thank
you. You have to
[1:20:02] compliment your your counselor, Eric Storch,
because he was phenomenal.
[1:20:06] >> He was. >> Absolutely he's phenomenal. >>
He got his your district got
[1:20:10] hit really, really bad. I was driving around
and it was phenomenal. Yeah.
[1:20:13] >> We we know that we have a very good direct
line and. >> Yes, exactly.
[1:20:19] >> Sympathetic and helpful. >> Thank you. I
love the walking ladies, the lady
[1:20:24] walkers every day. They're on the little corner.
Right. >> Jerry?
[1:20:37] >> Good evening Melissa. Good evening. My first
time. But we'll try it again. It's
[1:20:44] regarding engineering. What's the third year
in a row now that I get flooded? But it's
[1:20:51] also three neighbors around that. Probably
because of my driveway and the water on our
[1:20:57] street. Parkland 49, parkland. It flows down
where the same level of Saint Louis and the
[1:21:04] hill comes after our house. So everything comes
to my house and my neighbor, our driveway
[1:21:11] are sloping towards the backyard. So our four
neighbors are getting flooded. Last year
[1:21:18] after the flood, I called engineers to come
and check it out. So I informed them, we
[1:21:25] have pipes in the back of our property, a big
manhole that's empty and it house beautiful
[1:21:33] raccoon. So why not use for all that water?
It took a while. Three phone calls and a
[1:21:41] gentleman working for the engineer Sean showed
up. Very nice guy. I even helped him
[1:21:46] opening some of the manhole cover that they
were going to bring cameras, inspection and
[1:21:52] so on to check it out. And I said, is there
a way to find out what happened with this?
[1:22:00] Yes. If there's a problem, we'll let you know.
Never heard anything, but I still got
[1:22:06] flooded this year. Not in the house though,
in the garage and all the properties. So the
[1:22:13] flood is elsewhere. I know it's when we bought
a house. Snow is new. Buy a shovel snow blower.
[1:22:21] Now for the spring we have to buy sump pump
water barriers. So it's becoming crazy. I'm
[1:22:28] looking at a barrier to stop the water from
the street, to come onto my land, property
and
[1:22:34] my neighbor so it doesn't flood the other neighbor.
We're talking six $7,000. It's crazy
[1:22:40] because the street is like this towards my
place. So my question is, is it possible to
[1:22:47] get answers from the engineering to find out
what the problem, what the solution?
[1:22:53] Maybe eventually I know it's not going to get
done tomorrow. Everybody had the same problem.
[1:22:59] We don't expect stuff to change overnight,
but we would like to have answers that, yes,
it'll
[1:23:04] take a year. Meanwhile, we'll look at this.
We'll look at that. It the politics is
[1:23:09] politics. We need more than politics. We need
straight answers.
[1:23:14] >> I think it's simple. Your address. You got
the gentleman's address, Mr. Girard,
[1:23:19] and we're making a list. And we're looking
at all these situations. Everything we hear
[1:23:23] tonight, we're going to address. Okay, we're
going to look at it. We're going to give it
[1:23:27] engineering. We're going to we're going to
address them all. And that's why we put out
a
[1:23:32] survey survey last week or two weeks ago asking
people tell us where the problems are, because,
[1:23:36] I mean, we thought we had them all up until
last week when we got that rain. We all new
ones
[1:23:41] came up. So yes, we'll address it. And Mr.
Girard will be in charge of making sure that.
And
[1:23:46] he is not not that he's in charge. He is in
charge. And he will make sure that it's looked
[1:23:51] at and he'll get an answer. >> Thank you. All
right. Miss you Kelly.
[1:23:55] >> Nancy. >> You don't want her in the same
room as us right now.
[1:23:59] >> Nancy McDonald. >> Good evening, mayor.
>> Members of Council. Nancy
[1:24:12] McDonald, district eight. My family has lived
in Pointe Claire for 24 years. The last
[1:24:19] three have been unpleasant. We've flooded three
times. Water up to here, dirty, ugly
[1:24:27] sewage water up to here. Our home is a split
level, so we have a basement and we have
[1:24:32] upstairs. We lost everything in the basement.
We lost my daughter's room. We lost my
[1:24:36] husband's guitar studio. We lost everything
in our garage, our bathroom and our family
[1:24:42] room twice. We are probably $120,000 out of
pocket leading into today. I was coming here
[1:24:53] today to ask you what you were going to do
for your citizens. And I saw that you're doing
[1:24:58] something, but it's not enough. It's not enough.
I am between we are between the Delmar
[1:25:11] Deluge and whatever is happening on Winthrop,
we're right in the middle. If you
[1:25:16] look at Compton Crescent, we are 25 Compton
Crescent. We have a sloping driveway the
[1:25:21] other side of our crescent. I don't think any
house has got anything on our side because
it
[1:25:26] comes like this. And I unfortunately bought
a house with a sloping driveway. I
[1:25:31] shouldn't have done that, but 24 years ago,
when we're a young family with young
[1:25:35] children, we were enthralled of raising our
children in Pointe Claire and enthralled with
[1:25:40] owning that house. I can't afford to live there
anymore, I can't. So basically, our family
[1:25:47] is living in a five and a half upper because
we can't do the basement. The $5,000 that
[1:25:53] you're offering is not going to help us. We
have a sloping driveway, so we have to put
in
[1:25:58] a sump pump that costs money. The sloping driveway,
like the gentleman said before, we have
[1:26:02] to put a barrier that's going to cost us upwards
of $25,000. We have to do because of the
[1:26:08] house that we chose in Pointe Claire, something
needs to be done because I can't sell it.
[1:26:14] Nobody's going to buy it. What am I going to
do? What are we going to do?
[1:26:26] >> I don't I mean, I don't have all the answers
for you. I don't have them. I feel very,
[1:26:31] very bad for you. You're killing me. But you
know, the $5,000, maybe it's not enough,
[1:26:37] but we got 12,000 homes. We got many, many
residents that we have to deal with. It's a
[1:26:41] beginning. And we're and we're trying to find
solutions to help everybody doing what we
[1:26:45] can do on our side, I mean, our infrastructure
and then helping the people do what you can
do
[1:26:51] on your side. It will never be enough. I'm
sorry. And we just as a city, we can't afford
to
[1:26:56] just have open coffee. >> Can I make a suggestion?
>> Absolutely.
[1:26:59] >> You said you're bringing in a consulting
team to work with us. Can that consulting team
[1:27:03] not evaluate the homes and distribute the money
accordingly? Instead of just
[1:27:08] throwing $5,000 at everybody? Because what
if one and I'm not asking to rebuild my own
home,
[1:27:15] I'm asking to make it safe to live in. That's
all I want. But $5,000 isn't going to cut it.
[1:27:22] Maybe the person up the street is going to
be okay with something that's $2,500 based
[1:27:26] on that evaluation, and maybe we need ten.
And then all your residents have what they
have
[1:27:31] or have what they need to be able to continue
to live in Pointe Claire, if you're
[1:27:35] bringing in that consulting company, why can't
they do that? I'm not asking for an answer
[1:27:40] today or tomorrow, but if that consulting company
can come in and do the proper evaluation
[1:27:45] that we need to be able to continue to live
in Pointe Claire, that seems like it
[1:27:49] would make more sense instead of just throwing
money to the. >> Wind.
[1:27:52] >> I did that consulting company. You can hire
that consulting company. They'll
[1:27:55] come and do your house. We'll pay for that
consulting company to come in and evaluate
your
[1:27:59] house. They won't tell you who to use, but
they'll tell you what you can do and give you
a
[1:28:04] plan, what you can do to make your house more
water resilient. That's the whole purpose of
it.
[1:28:09] These are experts. These are people that go
around. That's what they'll do. That's part
of
[1:28:13] the plan. That's part of our program. That's
one of the services.
[1:28:16] >> But that's what I'm saying. Somebody up
the street is going to need $2,000 of your
city
[1:28:20] money. I might need eight. >> I you know what?
Right now, I mean, right now I can't make
[1:28:25] any decisions except tonight we're going to
pass what we got. So we get the ball rolling
for
[1:28:30] tomorrow, which is $5,000. And maybe we'll
be a program that will evolve down the road.
I
[1:28:34] don't know, but let's I mean, I know, I know.
>> It won't. Help you. It won't
[1:28:38] help you in your. >> Situation. But let's get
the ball rolling tomorrow. The
[1:28:42] money will be available for a lot of people
will help them a lot. Maybe we have to up the
[1:28:47] plan or change something. Who knows? We might
have to. But right now, tonight, we can't.
[1:28:51] Right now we're adopting that. But your comments
are been taken and noted, and it was
[1:28:55] something that council is going to talk about
for sure. Thank you. Okay. But please like
use
[1:28:59] that company please. >> Lori LaFleur. >> Good
evening. Hi, Mike, my
[1:29:15] city councilor. I'm actually Mrs. McDonald's
neighbor on Compton Crescent as well. I've
[1:29:21] been flooded three times. Unfortunately, I
haven't had it as bad as a lot of my neighbors,
[1:29:26] including Nancy. I moved to Point Clair about
24 years ago to start a family, and right
[1:29:35] now the 24 years were great and now I live
in fear. I have children, we have a life in
our
[1:29:43] basement. I definitely need the contact number
to this company that you're providing because
I
[1:29:51] can't live like this. We all have PTSD on our
street. Every time it rains, we're all like
[1:29:56] nervous. And the anxiety. It's no quality of
life. I came to Pointe Claire for quality of
[1:30:03] life, and I don't have it anymore. And I'm
older and my neighbors are older. I have a
[1:30:09] neighbor right next to me. 18 Compton put in
two sump pumps and she flooded a third time.
[1:30:16] I'm not blaming only the city. There is climate
change. But you dug up Winthrop. It flooded.
[1:30:23] You dug up Delmar. It flooded. You dug up Hymas.
It floods every time. Something is not
[1:30:28] right. It's not only the weather. >> Well.
[1:30:36] >> It just goes to show you. I'm not discrediting
what you said, but it just goes to show
[1:30:42] you we're learning, even though the streets
have been redone. Okay, so the streets are
new
[1:30:46] latest standards. The all the right stuff has
been done and they still flooded. Why?
[1:30:50] >> Why? Well, they're not. >> Still flooding.
They're starting to flood.
[1:30:53] >> But why? >> Every time you finish a project,
when it rains, it
[1:30:57] floods. >> But when it rains, the amount of
rain that we're
[1:31:00] getting in a short period of time, because
we never experienced that before. So
[1:31:03] we're going on. >> You go back to 2024. We
didn't have this amount of rain
[1:31:07] last year. We didn't have not not in this short
amount of time.
[1:31:13] >> So so, you know, I like what you said, like
you, it's not only, well, let's start with,
[1:31:21] you know, the quality of life in Pointe Claire.
We didn't change the quality of life.
[1:31:25] It's not we understand your every one of us
here flooded. I flooded, he flooded. He most
of
[1:31:29] us all flooded. We all lived the same thing
that you've all lived. We're not immune to
this.
[1:31:34] So I feel for you. And I'm in the same position
as you. I'm over $100,000 in and I got no
[1:31:40] more insurance. Okay? First time in 35 years.
So I get it. Okay, so. But we have to get
[1:31:45] through it together and, and we have to do
we and we, we have sat down, we have had six
[1:31:51] meetings or five meetings on budgets, on trying
to find money increasing what we're
[1:31:55] going to be spending on fixing stuff this year.
Next year, we're doing what we can. First
[1:31:59] of all, we have to find the money. Second of
all, you have to come up with the engineering.
[1:32:04] Third of all, we have to find the contractor
to do it. It's a process and we're expediting
[1:32:08] even this this financial aid program that's
only supposed to come out in the fall, September,
[1:32:12] October. We put it through for tonight because
we know we need to you need everybody needs
[1:32:16] help right now. So we're trying to do what
we can. And as much as shocking to you, it's
[1:32:21] shocking to our system to, to our. Everything
has to change here to our our engineering
[1:32:25] department is overwhelmed. All the subcontractors
we use, they're all overwhelmed too,
[1:32:29] because it didn't only happen in Pointe Claire.
It happened throughout the Dollard. Over
[1:32:34] 4000, over 2000 homes. Pierre. And he got.
So it's not only us. We're. We're living this
[1:32:40] together and it's traumatic. And I mean, I
wish we could control the guy upstairs, you
[1:32:46] know, give us a break. But we have to. >> Well,
he wasn't listening to
[1:32:50] me. We have to deal with. We're not. >> Going
to get a breakthrough.
[1:32:53] We have to figure out a way. That's our new
reality. That's our mindset. Now this is going
[1:32:57] to happen again, right? We have to figure out
a way to be able to get through it. And that's
[1:33:02] what we're trying to do. And every one of these
conversations and every day
[1:33:06] we're talking to people all helping is not
solving the problem now, but we're trying
[1:33:10] to get there. So, I mean, it's been 30 days,
20 days. We're on the since the last storm
we
[1:33:15] thought we were doing, you know, we we're really
advancing good with some of the projects that
[1:33:19] the lady said that little berm worked or whatever.
But hey, you know what? That helped her.
[1:33:24] But everybody else, we're still waiting now
because we just, you know, there's just so
much
[1:33:27] to do. >> Okay. Well, thank. >> You for sorry,
I don't have
[1:33:31] I don't. >> And I do. Have empathy for everybody
that flooded by the
[1:33:34] way. I feel like I'm lucky I didn't have sewage.
I didn't have a foot of water. But it's
[1:33:40] the third time that my home's been disrupted,
you know? So I do feel for all of
[1:33:47] Pointe-Claire residents and, and piriform,
I don't take anything away from them.
[1:33:52] >> Just we're all in this together, and we
have to try to figure out a way to get through
[1:33:57] it together to and find solutions like we're
learning off other, you know, in the
[1:34:00] last year when wherever it was we had a flood,
we actually reached out to people because
[1:34:05] people were so good at holding back water in
the springtime along the shoreline. Why? We
[1:34:11] reached out to them to see how we could hold
back the water temporarily on terra cotta and
[1:34:15] Sedgefield with these portable berms or whatever.
That's what motivated us to build a
[1:34:19] permanent berm. So we reach out and we're learning
from each other and try to find solutions.
[1:34:23] So it's a great community for that. >> Okay.
Well thank you.
[1:34:26] >> Thank you. >> Martin Gendron. >> I.
[1:35:09] >> Dans les bords les ruisseau drainage. Sunnyside
dans ses sondages. Considéré. Par des
[1:35:22] équipes des peintres. Recalculate la pointe
des ruisseau. ET pour. Des maisons
[1:35:35] au maisons. ET qui. A les gens ont répondu
la ville, la troisieme question c'était dans
[1:35:47] une corvette, la derniere question c'était
de la terre, mais c'est pas directoire le
[1:35:56] sinister. La vision dans la reprise du sondage
voisins, alors répondu au dela des
[1:36:02] questions les plus. C'est tout le systeme de
revoir. Dans ces changement climatique. Du
[1:36:16] dernier devient désormais la norme banal.
IL faut construire. Merci pour les interventions.
[1:36:29] Vous avez des chemins de terracotta. ET la
terre et le brouette par les travaux
[1:36:41] publics en équipe de maisons, pas de travail
et sans doute nos meilleures. Conclusion, la
[1:36:50] ville est capable d'appliquer la meilleure
solution. Selon sa propre evaluation. Merci
de
[1:36:59] nous entendre et de recevoir nos commentaires,
comme nous, vous demandons, mais ce soir. I
[1:37:07] will not be complete without reading this.
The more asphalt and concrete we lay down,
the
[1:37:15] more driveways we enlarge, the more asphalt
shingle tar roofs we built. And quoting here,
[1:37:23] quoting. The more we contribute to this climate
changes for which the fastest growing
[1:37:30] ecosystem is the desert. And that's. Robert
that's s Robert Aitken, chair of the geography
[1:37:38] Department of Concordia, many time published
on the topic in 1990. My mentor. Thank you
sir.
[1:37:47] >> Thank you very much. >> Janet. Hannah. >>
Good evening all. Before
[1:38:05] starting, I just wanted to say that respectfully.
I disagree with your decision to leave the
[1:38:11] flood questions to the end. This is on our
minds. It's a priority. It is very, very
[1:38:17] important to us. It has disrupted our lives
professionally, physically,
[1:38:22] mentally, emotionally. And I think it should
have been brought to the forefront and
[1:38:26] not left to the end. >> I just did it so that.
The whole purpose was to give you
[1:38:35] as much time as you needed, so you could hear.
We could hear as many as we could.
[1:38:39] >> That's not that I don't agree with that.
It's a priority. It should have been
[1:38:43] done first. It disrupted all of our lives.
It's caused us dramatic stress, and it still
[1:38:50] does. You can hear it in our voices. Several
people have even cried. So I think that you
[1:38:56] need to revise your priorities. We've lived
in Pointe Claire for 40 years in the Valois
area
[1:39:03] for 23 years. In 20 out of 23 years, we've
never had any floods. Never. All of a sudden,
[1:39:10] three years in a row, we have flooded. You
may want to blame it on climate change, the
[1:39:16] so-called warming of the planet. Don't insult
our intelligence with that. Prior to climate
[1:39:22] change or warming of the planet, we had acid
rain. Big deal. We had the ozone layer that
was
[1:39:28] disappearing holes in the ozone layer. We had
also climate change, but cooling of the
[1:39:32] planet at some point, Y2K end of the world,
fear mongering, basically total fear mongering.
[1:39:41] The common denominator in the past three years
is the new construction all over, just in
[1:39:49] donegani five buildings and growing. We pay
property taxes, school taxes, water taxes,
[1:39:58] provincial income taxes, federal income taxes,
GST, QST and all the streets. Where's
[1:40:05] our money going? Where's our money going? I'm
not done yet. Rhetorical question. We know
[1:40:12] where it's going. Unfortunately, the land near
the Valois community garden is 30 to 50cm
[1:40:20] higher than the land around our property. Thus,
the water that comes down flows directly to
[1:40:26] our houses. Instead of moving away and towards
the community garden, the land there needs
to
[1:40:33] be much lower. Something needs to be done so
that the water flows away from the homes and
[1:40:39] not towards them. What do you plan on doing
and by when to to ensure that we no longer
have
[1:40:48] any floods and so that our money is properly
used. And I do want to add .6.1, 6.2, 6.3,
[1:40:59] 6.4. My personal opinion to vote on them. I
disagree with all of them. That is money that
[1:41:04] should be kept in the coffers for us, and that
should be used for that woman whose house was
[1:41:10] flooded, and she needs to pay 120 over to,
to, to rebuild her house. Not going to a golf
[1:41:19] course, certainly not giving money away to
other organizations needs to go to
[1:41:24] the people in Pointe Claire who pay for it.
>> Thank you, thank you.
[1:41:44] >> Good evening everybody. I think the subject
of the day is the floating. Everybody is
[1:41:49] complaining about the flood and the same reasons
and the same answer we get. But we have to
[1:41:57] consider a lot more than the damages for each
each flood that we have. Even we have to
[1:42:04] consider the price of our houses. Our neighbor
is selling a house with 90 9000 less than
[1:42:11] the evolution of the city. Is that normal?
It's not normal. He's losing money. So it's
not
[1:42:19] normal that we lose. We work, we improve our
houses, we renovate our houses, and in the
[1:42:27] end we lose money and we lose our house. So
I understand the community needs a lot, needs
[1:42:39] bike paths. But do you imagine seeing water
on the street like this? It doesn't pass through
[1:42:45] the pipe path. The bike path is higher than
our street, the higher higher than our houses.
[1:42:51] All the water comes toward the houses, the
baseball field. The baseball field was renovated
a
[1:42:58] few years ago. It was hired up. It probably
has a French drain that is connected to the
[1:43:06] collector right next to our houses, which is
will be full. You suggested pumps, some pumps.
[1:43:14] Everybody has some pumps. What they do nothing,
because the pipes that drains around the
[1:43:21] houses, they are full of water. The level on
the street is so high. The level of the water
on
[1:43:30] the street is so high that our French drain
is full of water. It doesn't do nothing. It
works.
[1:43:36] Everybody inspected, everybody has a tested
and everything is working around the houses.
The
[1:43:44] slope of the house. We redid our pavé, our
dolls, our driveways, just in the hope
[1:43:51] that the water will go away from the house.
And it's not it's not because we are high.
[1:43:59] The drain. French drain is down the water.
The water level is too high, so it's coming
toward
[1:44:05] the houses. So what about our taxes? Do we
still pay the same taxes even if the house
is lost?
[1:44:16] The price. >> Are you asking for an answer?
>> Yes.
[1:44:21] >> I'm waiting. Listen, first of all, your
money in Pointe-Claire is very well
[1:44:27] spent and it goes in the right places. So whoever
said it doesn't go in the right place?
[1:44:32] Don't forget, we give $0.58 on the dollar to
Montreal. So $0.58. So you we run the city
[1:44:38] on the difference. Okay. On the 40, $0.42 on
the dollar we run the city, all your services,
[1:44:44] all the the, the stuff that we offer, all the
snow removal, which is minimal. Okay. That's,
[1:44:50] that's our biggest problem. We were able to
keep the $106 million we send to Montreal.
We
[1:44:54] could do a lot more with it. We're much better
managed than any than Montreal is
[1:44:58] financially. All the municipalities are well
managed. Our problem is, and you said it,
[1:45:02] everybody in this room has said it. Your house
is now flooded in 20 years, 30 years. In the
[1:45:07] last three years, it's flooded. I mean, we're
every one of us is in the same boat, but we
[1:45:12] can't change an infrastructure that's been
there since the 1940s. Overnight, it just
[1:45:17] started happening. It's a new reality. We're
adapting to it. We're learning, we're trying
to
[1:45:21] figure it out, and we're willing to put the
money where it has to go. But we have to.
[1:45:26] It takes time. We cannot resolve it overnight.
And every one of us are concerned. We're
[1:45:31] working day and night on flooding. That's what
we're doing. Our priorities are
[1:45:34] flooding. We're doing it. But you can only
do so much in a year. You can only do so much
[1:45:39] in a week, and you only have so many employees
to do it. Right. So we are taking all I can
tell
[1:45:45] you, and I know you can believe me, or you
don't have to believe me, but I can tell you
[1:45:50] we are making this a priority and we've kept
our word from the time we got elected. We
[1:45:54] made a priority. December 15th. There was a
meeting here telling people what we have
[1:45:58] been doing from. And I was impressed with the
amount of work that had been done, the
[1:46:02] number of studies, the number of the way they
were testing the pipes and the flows and the
[1:46:07] identifying it. So we're doing what we can
do. But you're talking something, you know,
[1:46:10] that everybody's been trying for all these
years and three years. It's changing. We're
[1:46:14] supposed to solve it overnight. We have to
do it together and it's going to take time.
But
[1:46:18] we're going to get there. But we, we, we, we,
we, we're not the only point. We're not the
[1:46:23] only city flooding. It's province wide. It's
Saskatoon got fricking 200mm of rain the
[1:46:30] other day. They're completely wiped out. It's
it's a world problem. It's not just here. So
[1:46:34] we are trying our best. We've been here. We've
been dealing with this for the last eight
[1:46:38] months. And we're making headway. We're doing
more. I can say this. We're doing more
[1:46:42] than any municipality in the West Island, more
than any municipality. We put more money,
[1:46:47] we started more projects. We got programs to
they're not too much, but we started the
[1:46:54] program. We're doing more than to make our
city water resistant, resilient. That's
[1:46:59] all we can do. We can't stop the water from
falling, but we have to stop it from going
in
[1:47:04] our houses. That's what we have to do, right?
So, you know, the insurance companies, I mean,
[1:47:08] they're they've wiped us all off the map saying
they're not going to insure us anymore. So,
[1:47:13] you know, we have to find we, we have to find
a way that we can stop it from getting into
[1:47:18] our basement. And they're going to tell us
you're not allowed to have a finished basement
or
[1:47:22] don't put your furnaces downstairs. And that's
where they're going because they know
[1:47:25] they can't resolve the problem overnight. Right.
And they know, you know, we have to assume
[1:47:29] it's going to happen again. So we somehow we
have to figure out, and that's what we hired
[1:47:34] that company for. Who are experts who can at
least look at your property and say, okay,
[1:47:38] get rid of your basement window. They'll put
a, I don't know what they'll tell you what
to
[1:47:43] do or what to put a sump pump or whatever.
But this is how we're going to one house at
a
[1:47:48] time, one day at a time. We got to start making
our properties water resilience. That's what
[1:47:52] we have to do. And we can do what we can do
on our side. And we're asking you to do what
you
[1:47:58] on your side. And that's why we're offering
something. Is it enough? It will never be enough,
[1:48:02] but it's a beginning. So I mean, you just have
to every one of us here tonight have to
[1:48:07] understand we're all in the same boat. We want
to work with you. We're not trying to fight
[1:48:11] the system here. We're trying to work with.
But again, we got a big area to cover, a huge
[1:48:16] area 30. We got 12, 15,000 homes to deal with.
It doesn't happen overnight. We got 200km
[1:48:21] of pipes to deal with. You know, there's a
lot of stuff, a lot. But we are working the
best we
[1:48:27] can and the most efficiency to try to get to
the bottom of it. That's all I can tell you.
And
[1:48:32] I'm proud to say that because we're not sitting
around. Oh yeah, a bunch of bureaucrats,
[1:48:36] they don't care. We care. This is a conversation
every day, meeting after meeting, after
[1:48:41] meeting the gentleman from Southwood. Whatever.
We stopped for two days this week talking
[1:48:45] about all the ditches behind private homes.
Nobody knows that in this room. We sat down.
[1:48:49] We started talking about them. Some of them
are whose responsibilities are. Nobody
[1:48:53] knows. They've been there for 100 years. But
who owns them? Who's going to clean them? We
[1:48:57] have to start looking. We're looking at everything.
And it takes time, though.
[1:49:01] >> Thank you very much. I really appreciate
all the effort of the city. I know
[1:49:06] there is efforts. I know that everybody is
working for that, but just have to understand
[1:49:12] that we are totally desperate. We are living
in a stress. We can't live from homes, we don't
[1:49:20] sleep. We. We hear the rain. We wake up and
we go downstairs right away to see if it's
[1:49:26] floating or not. It's, you know, it's unbearable.
>> I totally understand that. I
[1:49:31] totally understand that. Believe me. I mean,
I've lived what you've lived. We've all
[1:49:35] lived. We totally get that. And we're in the
same boat. I want to go away for a week, and
I
[1:49:41] worry if I go away in the rain, what's going
to happen? So I understand it. Believe me,
I
[1:49:45] understand it, but I don't you know, I don't
have a quick answer. All I can tell you is
[1:49:50] that we're doing everything we can. And I appreciate
your your understanding and your concerns.
[1:49:55] And I appreciate that a lot because we're not
just closing our eyes. Yeah. It's not going
[1:50:00] to rain again. It's okay. No, no, we're taking
this serious. >> Thank you very much. Thank
[1:50:05] you. >> Lucy Ayala. Lucy Ayala. >> Madame Gutierrez,
how many
[1:50:47] more people are left for questions? >> One.
[1:50:49] >> Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven. Eight.
Nine. Ten. 11121314. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19.
[1:50:56] Probably like 20. Okay. Yeah. So we're going
missus. Yeah. >> Well, maybe we can group
[1:51:01] some of them together. I think everybody has
the same concerns. I mean I don't know what
how we
[1:51:06] can do. Well let's keep going. We're going
to keep going and we'll see how it goes. And
[1:51:10] maybe we can try to. I don't want everybody
have to stay here all night. I mean, I feel
[1:51:15] bad that. >> I want to scratch out Missus Ayala,
who doesn't seem to be
[1:51:19] answering. >> The list. >> Yeah. I propose
that we
[1:51:38] extend to. >> Seconded. >> I seconded.
[1:51:45] >> Thank you. >> So the next person. >> Connu
pour malheureusement
[1:52:14] des amendments exceptionnelles les specialists
nous dice de plus en plus fréquentes avec
[1:52:20] les changements climatiques pour développer
des. Sur un territoire resistant avec des
[1:52:26] Marais des villes et plusieurs ruisseaux, notamment
le ruisseau terra-cotta Valois.
[1:52:32] Les vieux de NE avec l'urbanisation. ONT été
intégrée au réseau des groups
[1:52:41] pluvial. ET en fonction des réalités de l'époque.
NE pouvait prévoir le
[1:52:51] développement commercial residential aujourd'hui
Pointe Claire. Stationnement asphalt
[1:52:58] et les immeubles superficial les tours residential
ou encore l'arrivée. De la brosse East
[1:53:10] Brunswick. Comme le point de vue de la ville.
Alors depuis les surfaces et les secteurs
[1:53:19] absorbents du tout le puy est rapidement dirigée
par le réseau pluvial qui. Converge en
[1:53:27] suite vers le secteur de la dans le lac Saint
Louis, principalement de l'Abbaye de
[1:53:35] Valois, la joint derniere. Du Puy en trois
sur l'ensemble du territoire de Pointe-Claire,
[1:53:47] représente pres de 2.7 million liters equivalent
Piscine olympique aucun. Volume IL n'a
[1:53:58] pas été adaptée a l'évolution de la ville.
Les travaux de la ville la situation par le
[1:54:09] probleme de font la loi de physique des liquides
de. La capacité maximum a un autre qui
[1:54:20] sont les. Dons a la source. Seulement dans
les niveaux de développement des ouvrages
de
[1:54:32] travers. Les qui utilize davantage comme le
bassin de retention des monuments pour
[1:54:45] notamment jouer un role important puisqu'il
déja plusieurs. Temporaires de
[1:54:57] construction, qui ont le ruisseau des eaux
pluvial. Projet démontre son terrain
[1:55:07] l'équivalent. 000 millimeters depuis. Du réseau
des groups pluvial de three dimensional de
[1:55:22] l'ensemble du réseau et des rapports provenant
des seigneurs afin de les
[1:55:27] différents scenarios depuis des établissements
nécessaires pour les personnes de.
[1:55:34] >> Merci, monsieur le point premier. Les nouveaux
projet et les nouveaux projets, mais les
[1:55:42] nouveaux projets, IL faut qui suivent un nouveau
norme pour la loi sur le terrain, les
[1:55:49] nouveaux les projets e. >> Tower avec un. Avec
un. Peu au bout de.
[1:56:07] >> La. Par les. Nouveaux parties de la vie
dans la recherche sur le terrain. En
[1:56:24] regard to those de calcul, calculate the volume
de l'hopital mais pour. On a
[1:56:32] parlez vous avez. And document pour le mountain
de la. Voir, monsieur. Du travail. Piece
[1:56:46] about 18 years old to see the. No no project
future. So merci for me. I can tell you a
[1:57:01] nouveau project présentée par la calcul expectations.
Le nouveau. La réponse de. De la
[1:57:21] ensemble. De calcul. Okay, merci beaucoup.
>> Mr. Mayor. And I had just a
[1:57:28] precision to Mr. Le Point. Just. Avec l'école
technologie supérieure par rapport a
[1:57:36] pluvial par des recommandations sur sa fait
partie de planification pour améliorer le
[1:57:42] réseau. >> Merci. >> Tom Fullerton.
[1:57:54] >> Good evening, good evening. A lot of the
points that I wanted to raise have already
[1:58:00] been raised. I think you've heard the message.
I think you've heard the applause from
[1:58:03] the people outside. There's a lot of emotions
and a lot of people's lives have been
[1:58:10] disrupted. So I won't go through all of that
again. Thank you. The point I would
[1:58:14] like to emphasize is communication. We receive
already a lot of alerts from
[1:58:19] Pointe Claire for garbage pickup or other changes
to schedules. We were returning
[1:58:26] from up north when this latest rainfall hit.
We received no alerts even though we could
[1:58:33] barely drive to our residence on Broadview.
The streets below and above were all blocked.
We
[1:58:41] didn't get an alert. >> We had a debriefing
the day after, and that came up and has
[1:58:45] been addressed. And it's a great point you're
bringing up, and we're making taking
[1:58:49] measures to make sure that we can be able to
do that in the future.
[1:58:53] >> I hope so, I think along those same lines,
I think the frustration that you're hearing
[1:58:57] from a lot of residents and the frustration
that I hear up and down our street, people
with
[1:59:02] two sump pumps, French drain. The guy's a plumber,
he's put in everything, and he still
[1:59:07] floods. And it's not rainwater, it's his toilet
skyrocketing. Like this is. Obviously the
[1:59:15] aqueducts can no longer handle the volume of
rain that we're receiving. Two years ago, we
[1:59:21] had 50mm in an hour, 80mm in an hour, and now
150 to 180. The rate of change is enormous.
I
[1:59:33] don't think that we can easily rip up all the
aqueducts and replace them with large pipes.
[1:59:38] I understand that point, but I think that other
measures, and I hope in the consultation
[1:59:43] process with this external firm, that you come
up with temporary measures as well as long
term
[1:59:50] development, so that if we're putting in new
developments, that those developments are
[1:59:55] tied to infrastructure improvements. >> Absolutely.
[1:59:59] >> It's not enough to put a tank on the bottom
of a department.
[2:00:03] >> Sure. I can't hear you. I'm sorry. >> That's
okay. I'm glad for
[2:00:06] the applause. I think that we can't rely on
a tank under the apartments, given the rate
of
[2:00:12] change, if the rainfall is increasing at this
exponential rate, then the standards we put
[2:00:18] in place today will no longer be effective
in five years. >> Well, exactly. That's why
[2:00:22] there's a calculation done now. The new norm
is 120 150mm rain. Right. So we have to start
[2:00:28] working with those new norms now. Right. >>
But if you continue the rate
[2:00:31] of change by next year, we could be looking
at 300mm of rain in an hour. What I'm
[2:00:36] saying is we can't rely on a retention basin
under an apartment building. We have to
[2:00:40] improve the existing infrastructure. I understand
that that process can take 5 to
[2:00:45] 10 years to redo all of the storm drains in
Pointe Claire, and there's.
[2:00:52] >> Lots of measurements we can take. I'll just
give you an example. And you know, right
[2:00:56] now everybody's sump pump goes into a storm
drain. So your house is flooding or you've
got
[2:01:01] lots of water. Your sump pump is pumping your
two sump pumps where it is going into the
[2:01:05] storm drains. Right? >> Well, it's not going
in because there's a river going
[2:01:09] down Broadway. >> Right. So but if we could,
if we could eliminate, you know,
[2:01:12] if you were now no longer the pump, your sump
pumps into the storm drain would just to go
[2:01:17] out onto your lawn into a rain garden or something
to slow down the water going into the
[2:01:22] storm drain. It might alleviate some of the
water in the pipes. It would carry more water.
[2:01:28] These are little things we're looking at. I
don't have all the answers, but these are all
[2:01:32] things that have to be looked at, right? >>
So I think along the same
[2:01:36] process, if, if, if we're doing everything
that we can as private residents to pump water
[2:01:40] out of our basement, that's coming in from
the city's infrastructure that's been
[2:01:46] overwhelmed. Yeah. Then likewise, could we
consider putting a pumping station
[2:01:53] somewhere along the line so that this water
can get out of the storm drains, so that we
[2:01:58] can then pump into them? Because the problem
is we can't pump into them. And unless
[2:02:03] you're home and you flick the diverter switch
and send that water out into your backyard,
[2:02:07] which I don't think we really want, especially
if it's a mix of sewage and fresh water. We
[2:02:12] don't want people pumping water just everywhere
onto their properties or their neighbors.
[2:02:17] Right? So how can we evacuate these systems
more effectively to allow us to pump it into
the
[2:02:24] appropriate? >> That's all the things we're
looking at. That's all the
[2:02:27] stuff we're looking at. >> So this comes back
to my communication. I think that
[2:02:31] tonight you would have fewer people present
and you would have. Emotions that were more
[2:02:37] under control and a more civil debate. Perhaps
if the communication was improved.
[2:02:45] This is the plan, not an idea. And we hear
you and my basement flooded too. But what is
the
[2:02:50] actionable item that's following this? >> Well,
so we have we have a
[2:02:55] plan in place which. >> Is going to be revealed
tomorrow. We have the site
[2:02:59] coming out tomorrow. >> Tomorrow. >> So we
we're mediating
[2:03:03] everything. Okay. Because of. >> I'm sorry,
you have a what coming.
[2:03:06] >> Up tomorrow, a communique coming out explaining
to >> People what we're going to
[2:03:09] be doing moving forward, some of the procedures
we're taking place, there'll be a website
[2:03:13] keeping everybody up to date that we've developed.
Unfortunately, it's starting
[2:03:16] tomorrow. We didn't expect the rain on the
20th of June. We were going along getting
[2:03:22] everything done. So everything this rain on
June 20th didn't help us get to our finish
line.
[2:03:28] So but it's coming out tomorrow and all the
stuff we're doing the program tonight that
we're
[2:03:33] advancing the money, the people that was supposed
to only come out in the fall, we expect to
[2:03:38] get it to happen as of tomorrow. So yes, we're
doing and we and I don't disagree. We have
to
[2:03:43] communicate better. And we're trying to get
there with this site. So we're starting
[2:03:46] tomorrow and there'll be a continuous update
to what's going on and what to do and
[2:03:51] what's happening. And yeah, so that's. >> Thank
you. I'm glad to hear
[2:03:55] that there's something coming forward. The
rains have been happening for two years. So
I
[2:03:58] don't think this is a last month June 20th
issue. I mean it's the third time I've
[2:04:03] flooded in two years, you know. So but I'm
pleased that the communication is going to
be
[2:04:07] improved. I hope you're hearing us that the
citizens are extremely frustrated, not with
[2:04:12] our homes, not with what we've done. We've
taken all appropriate measures, but the
[2:04:18] aqueducts, the storm drains can no longer handle
this capacity. And and we need a we need a
[2:04:25] stopgap measure. We need a temporary solution,
an actionable solution. Now.
[2:04:30] >> Well, we've done and, you know, again, I'm
going. >> To.
[2:04:33] >> I'm hearing I've heard everybody in this
room and I and I don't think there's been
[2:04:38] any bad debate here. I think it's been all
great questions and great conversation because
[2:04:42] I think we've learned a lot. We've heard a
lot of great stuff. Okay. And I'm not
[2:04:46] defending the city, but we can't be. We're
not the only player. We all have to work
[2:04:51] together. It's all new to us too. This is all
new to us. Okay, three years and three
[2:04:56] years ago, we didn't live any of this. In three
years, our lives have changed and you know
[2:05:00] it's changed for you. One household. It's changed
for us, for the whole city. And it's
[2:05:04] the tough thing to deal with. And, you know,
I mean, there's lots of it's huge. And we got
[2:05:10] elected here in November. We have made it a
priority. And I'm going to tell you again,
we
[2:05:15] have done more than any municipality that has
done well. >> I look forward to hearing
[2:05:19] about that. In your communication, I'd like
to know what actionable steps have been
[2:05:22] done, not just reassuring words. >> You'll
see it in some of the stuff that the project
has
[2:05:27] already taken place. You'll see it in the budget,
the money we're spending. We're spending
[2:05:31] $2 million on Sedgefield building that that
sponge park, that berm that we just built,
[2:05:35] Ivanhoe Crescent being redone with ditches
instead of pipes, all kinds of stuff. It's
all
[2:05:39] happening now as we speak. All right. Thank
you. >> Thank you, Mr. Fullerton. Hi.
[2:05:45] How are you? We know each other. I just want
to touch one statement. Is that the citizens
[2:05:50] done everything they can. I think they are
doing everything they can. But of all the
[2:05:54] citizens that I've seen, I would say 50, 60%
of them aren't really doing the right
[2:06:02] things to address this. And that's part of
the communication. And that's why
[2:06:05] that eco habitat will come to your home, you
know, to address the issues. And that that's
[2:06:11] from me going to my citizens and seeing that,
you know, I installed a French drain. Well,
[2:06:15] French drains are useless under these circumstances.
There's there's, there's other
[2:06:20] mitigation issues that that need to be done.
And that's part of the communication
[2:06:23] process that that the mayor and the administration
is working so hard on. We got to get that
[2:06:28] message out there and it's coming. It's coming.
But we we are like, I, I got flooded
[2:06:34] again because I was up north. But my point
being is that there's a lot of things that
we
[2:06:41] have to communicate, what can be done to address
these issues, because it's a bit more complex
[2:06:46] and every home has their particular issue.
>> Yeah. You're saying this
[2:06:51] consultation, the the firm will come to each
individual home on a request basis.
[2:06:55] >> Yeah. You make it, you fill out a request.
And I mean they're going to be overwhelmed,
[2:06:59] obviously probably, but they'll come to your
house and they'll evaluate your home and give
you
[2:07:03] a report on what you should be doing to make
your house more water resilient.
[2:07:08] >> Okay. >> There was maybe confusion that
they were coming to help
[2:07:11] the city, but no, they're coming to help individual
homes to be more resilient
[2:07:17] individually. That's the the program that we're
trying to set forward.
[2:07:21] >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your time.
>> Okay.
[2:07:45] >> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> I'm from
district seven.
[2:07:48] Okay. >> Your name is Kim. Kim. >> So I've
been living in the
[2:07:55] same area for about 27 years. And I've had
two floods over the last couple of years. Like
[2:08:00] many of the residents from the area. However,
in my area, Vanguard Hymas Winthrop have
[2:08:07] been redone. Doesn't seem to have helped us.
Is there going to be an assessment to find.
[2:08:14] >> Out if we've already started a process to
look at Hymans Boulevard?
[2:08:19] >> And when do we think that this process may
come to an end and we'll know what's going
on
[2:08:24] with it? >> We I can't tell you we asked for
it last week. And how long
[2:08:28] will it take? >> Several months. >> Several
months, several
[2:08:31] months. >> Because it's the second flood since
Hymas has been
[2:08:34] redone. >> Yeah. No, and that's why we asked
for an evaluation of
[2:08:37] what's going on there, because it's all new
state of the art latest. What's going on?
[2:08:41] >> We didn't think of that after the first
flood. >> Sorry.
[2:08:44] >> We didn't think of that after the first
flood. >> Well, it was a little bit
[2:08:48] different. This one was a little bit this one
here was different. From what I
[2:08:52] understand, this was a lot worse than the first
one on Hymas. So there's something
[2:08:57] that I wasn't there after the first one, but
I was there after this one. And we mandated
[2:09:04] this caucus council mandated an intervention
on him to find out what's going on.
[2:09:09] >> Okay. Well, Winthrop be looked at as well.
>> Well, it's all part of it
[2:09:13] all. Yeah, it's all part of the same. Like,
you guys got hit completely different this
time
[2:09:17] than last time. He has to have the microburst
was right over in that area and everything
[2:09:22] else. But that's why it was so important to
have these these conversations tonight was
to
[2:09:27] understand a we we thought we had figured it
out up until June because we had five areas
[2:09:33] we were looking at. Now we got a whole other
area. That's some new areas to look at, new
[2:09:37] situations to look at. So we're going to yes,
we're moving forward. Looking at your area
[2:09:41] and listening to what you guys have and taking
it all down and building that on it.
[2:09:46] >> And will the public be able to see what
you found out? >> Absolutely. And we've
[2:09:50] already held three meetings. On December 15th,
we had a meeting here. People came, we showed
[2:09:54] them everything we'd done, all the pipes. We
checked where we thought their problems were.
[2:09:58] Then we did another. We did another intervention
in when was it?
[2:10:03] >> It was in May. >> In May, with more stuff
we learned and stuff that you
[2:10:08] could do on your house. And we had people come
and talk to you and we're trying to. Yeah,
[2:10:12] we're trying to communicate the best we can.
>> Very well.
[2:10:15] >> Thank you, thank you. >> Brant Cowan. >>
Good evening. I have a
[2:10:29] question. I was wanting to know what had been
done with the respect to the flooding, with
[2:10:34] the in the emergency plan. So I, you know,
was on the the emergency planning committee
[2:10:39] before. So I knew I knew I am familiar with
the emergency plan as it stood a couple of
[2:10:45] years ago. So I was wondering what had been
done since to incorporate a response to
[2:10:50] flooding and other kinds of natural disasters
that we we can predict, such as heat. We
[2:10:56] have. We've responded to when there's heat
waves or power outages, that sort of thing.
So
[2:11:00] I got a copy of the most recent emergency plan,
and I was kind of surprised that so much of
it
[2:11:08] was redacted. It's not we're not we don't have
the plan for World War three. We're not
[2:11:12] going to get invaded. I don't think there's
much that really should be secret. Held
[2:11:16] confidential in emergency plan. I put it to
you that it's not a good idea to wait until
an
[2:11:21] emergency before you release this information.
But anyway, what I did see, there is no
[2:11:27] annex in the plan dealing with emergency flooding
and or any of the other any other kinds of
[2:11:33] emergency situations that might come up. What
what the plan does have, it's basically a
[2:11:39] telephone directory and the telephone numbers
are redacted. And the offices, some of the
[2:11:43] offices are redacted, but it doesn't. There
is you know, I see the table of contents.
[2:11:49] There is no provision yet for any of these
kinds of emergencies. I think it might
[2:11:53] be a good idea to look into that one and two.
The this plan is is cascades down from the
[2:12:01] agglomeration. The agglomeration indicates
that it's quite willing to help. I'm
[2:12:05] so first question, I guess, is have we asked
them for any help? >> So on that note, I sit
on
[2:12:13] the Public Security Commission and we've already
had a meeting concerning that already. We met
[2:12:17] with the SIM and all the players for especially
after the flooding of last year. We
[2:12:24] we've had a lot of discussions about what they've
learned, how they're. They've changed their
[2:12:29] operating procedures. They were surprised,
like, for instance, a Montreal. When there's
a fire,
[2:12:35] you can see the smoke coming out. You know,
many places are caught on fire. They were
[2:12:39] telling us they were completely overwhelmed
when they realized. They did not realize how
many
[2:12:43] houses got flooded, because it took 2 or 3
days for the people to start putting their
stuff
[2:12:48] out, because the water went in their basements
and they didn't know that the houses were
[2:12:52] flooded until. So it was, you know, we've learned
a lot and we're still discussing the best
[2:12:56] operating, how we're going to get the message
out to citizens sooner. I think Pointe-Claire
[2:13:01] right now, we're talking about even us ourselves
inside internally, we're talking about
[2:13:06] different operating procedures for Emergency
Measures Act to have a plan to start days
[2:13:12] before when we know what's coming. And I mean
you, you have something you can add to
[2:13:18] that. Jill. It's work in progress right now
for flooding and everything, right?
[2:13:22] >> Yeah. That's correct. And complement to
the meetings that you're having. Essentially,
[2:13:26] we're taking that information to develop that
plan more thoroughly on our side.
[2:13:32] >> Well, they were supposed to I arranged two
years ago for a year and a half ago, two years
[2:13:38] ago, for a fellow who had expertise in emergency
planning to help with help the city with
[2:13:42] risk assessment. And I don't know if there's
been any progress in that, but that was
[2:13:47] set up about a year and a half ago. But there's
nothing in the emergency plan to reflect that
[2:13:52] unless it was part of the A sections that were
many sections that were redacted.
[2:13:56] But I have a good idea of what was redacted
because I know the the the plan as it stood
two
[2:14:01] years ago because I saw it. So I don't think
there's anything in the redaction that has
[2:14:05] that's been redacted that has anything to do
with risk assessment and or, and you
[2:14:12] didn't actually answer the question whether
we've asked the agglomeration, I take it we
[2:14:15] haven't for this. For what? For whatever support
that they they said they would support.
[2:14:20] >> They're working. We're working with them.
I mean, we have meetings about this.
[2:14:24] >> Okay. Well, then let's. >> We're we're we're
updating. We're starting to look at
[2:14:31] different procedures. We had an emergency.
You were here for eight years, Mr. Kaplan.
Right.
[2:14:35] And I think you said on emergency measures.
>> Yeah, that's what.
[2:14:38] >> I'm telling you. So I know. So you were
there for eight years. You said, you know how
[2:14:43] it works now. The realities have changed. Flooding
has become a new priority in the
[2:14:47] last two years, year and a half. We had one
flood three years ago. It kind of went okay.
It
[2:14:52] happened. Now it's become a new reality. So
now we are in the process and Jill is the new
[2:14:57] director general for since what, three months
now? And we've asked him to sit down with the
[2:15:01] emergency measures team and start looking at
all these things. Now, it's a new reality.
[2:15:05] And to to implement new procedures. So it's
all in the works.
[2:15:10] >> I recognize that the emergency plan is was
at least been around for at least the
[2:15:16] agglomeration plan for at least three years.
And what we have done up to now appears that
we
[2:15:21] fill in some blanks, but we haven't actually
come up with any plan.
[2:15:25] >> We're coming up with. I'm trying to explain
to you. Mr. I get it working on it, but you
[2:15:30] don't want to listen. We are working on coming
up with a new plan, with new procedures for
[2:15:34] the new realities. I get you. >> I'm trying
to get I'm trying to get you to give me a.
[2:15:39] >> You're trying to you're trying to. I know
what. >> You're trying.
[2:15:42] >> To do, but I'm not. I'm not getting a debate
with you. So what's your next question?
[2:15:47] >> I'm just trying to ask one question. When
you'll have a plan, I.
[2:15:50] >> I'll let you know. I can't I don't have
the answer tonight. >> Okay.
[2:15:54] >> I don't have the answer tonight. Thank you.
I'm working on it. Thank you.
[2:15:58] >> Lauren. Pauline. Yes. >> Good evening. Lauren.
Pauline 131 Alston district
[2:16:08] four. Like many of the people here tonight,
we were hit with the flood in August of 2024.
[2:16:17] Quite devastatingly, in June of this year,
not so much, but we still received two inches
of
[2:16:26] water in our basement, which was in the process
of still being renovated from the
[2:16:34] previous flood. This is a piece of my molding,
which I put caulking on on Saturday
[2:16:40] afternoon. It was torn up on Sunday afternoon.
Now there's been some talk about
[2:16:47] development over development, whether that's
leading to some of these these issues. On
[2:16:54] Alston. Of course, we're very close to the
large amounts of development that have gone
on
[2:16:58] on Hymas. That water all comes down. Alston.
It flows down Alston and stays in the middle
[2:17:05] of Alston. When we have rainfall of this type
after our 2020 flood, we took measures to
[2:17:14] protect our house. We had two sump pumps, new
backflow valve. There's nowhere for the water
[2:17:21] to go now. That's no different from anybody
else here, but there is a difference with our
[2:17:28] situation in. Behind my property is the South
Greenwich development. The townhouses
[2:17:37] there were built on a wetlands mayor Belvedere.
You'll remember this issue very well
[2:17:43] from your first term. >> Very well. Absolutely.
>> Townhouses pump groundwater
[2:17:49] from the wetlands that they're built upon into
an open ditch bordering on our property. In
[2:17:59] July 2019, we had a meeting in this room yourself,
Councilor Webb, Marc-Andre Roy from and
[2:18:05] all the residents on all, we raised concerns
about that design. They were dismissed by.
[2:18:15] Marc-Andre Waugh waived a permit in our faces.
They committed to follow up meetings
[2:18:22] on all of the concerns, including drainage.
Those were ignored. That meeting was held,
[2:18:30] in our opinion, to appease the city with no
intent on taking any actions.
[2:18:37] >> If you do remember. One thing that came
out of that, it was more than just the flooding
[2:18:45] that you guys were dealing with. We're dealing
with all kinds of inefficiencies in the work
that
[2:18:50] hadn't been finished, and we held back one
of his permits in order to get the work done,
[2:18:54] which a lot of us I'm not talking about the
drainage, but a lot of the other stuff got
[2:18:59] done because we wouldn't issue permits. So
we did take a stance, and he sat in this
[2:19:03] office for a day waiting for his permits, and
we refused to give him his permit until. So
[2:19:08] we did take. >> Many of our other issues from
that meeting were not
[2:19:11] addressed, including work on weekends starting
at 5 a.m. work on weekdays going past the
[2:19:18] limit, cement trucks starting at 5:06 a.m.
on a Saturday. They didn't care. So you can
[2:19:26] you can mention that on May 22nd of this year,
I sent an email to yourself and Councilor
[2:19:33] Swidsinski about unusual water accumulation
in that ditch. It has become a stagnant swamp.
[2:19:42] There are bulrushes, algae, and it's a fairly
slow trickle for a drain. It's attracting
[2:19:50] mosquitoes. It's breeding mosquitoes, following
up with public works today, the city
[2:19:57] has no idea where that drain is draining to,
and they cannot trace to whether it's draining
[2:20:05] into the into the forest or elsewhere. They
say it's on private property. They have no
[2:20:11] plans for that. Now, that ditch that we warned
about in 2019 and again this year, four weeks
[2:20:22] before the flood, as it stopped draining on
June 20th, it was very close to cresting and
[2:20:29] coming over the banks into our property. My
property at that was bordering that ditch was
a
[2:20:36] lake. As many other people, other residents
had lakes as well. But I had a source here
[2:20:42] of water in a nonfunctioning drainage ditch.
A resident of the Greenwich townhouses had
[2:20:50] two gas powered pumps trying to pump out that
ditch and pumping it into the forest. They
were
[2:20:57] at risk too, and they were putting our properties
at risk. Now the. The information that
[2:21:10] we received from the city back in 2019 2020,
these are quotes from public works and from
our
[2:21:18] councilor at the time. The rain water should
be drained by gravity to the side. Captor.
[2:21:25] The ditch has been done in accordance with
the plans approved on permit. What was
[2:21:31] done was accepted as part of the Sustainable
Development Plan for this project.
[2:21:36] >> I just I don't want to be rude, but your
time is up and you can give you another 1015
[2:21:42] seconds. >> I'm closing my book. >> Okay, good.
[2:21:44] >> Okay. >> Just because I want everybody else
to have a chance.
[2:21:47] That's all. >> I understand that. What does
the city plan to do to take
[2:21:52] care of the threat that is behind my house
and what's in front of my house, the street,
[2:21:58] the drainage that is causing flooding issues.
>> We had. I can't tell you
[2:22:03] what we're going to do, but we did talk about
it tonight. Again, it's a complicated issue
[2:22:08] because the ditch is on private property, and
I know when I can only go back to 2019, when
I
[2:22:14] was here and we went on that property to check
out the ditch, I was removed from the property
[2:22:19] because it was on private property. So we have
to look at what we're up against. We're
[2:22:23] going to look at we'll take your information.
You just told us what public Works told you.
[2:22:28] I'd like to see what they actually said. And
maybe you have a copy of that letter they
[2:22:33] told you, or that information. >> With Samuel
from Public Works.
[2:22:36] >> So we got that. We'll talk to Samuel and
we'll. Mr. Straczynski, you're well
[2:22:41] represented. He asked us every week, every
time we see him, what we're doing. And we're
[2:22:45] we're taking a look at it. >> Okay. And I'd
like to thank Mr. Swidsinski for his support
[2:22:51] both before, during and after the flood incident,
and I hope everybody will recover from
[2:22:57] this as well as we can. But we need the help
from the city in order to do that. Thank you,
[2:23:03] thank you. >> Stephanie. Jolene. >> Good evening.
My name is
[2:23:16] Stephanie. I'm at 53 Potter in the Valois district.
So district three. You won't be
[2:23:22] surprised, of course, that I too was the victim
of flooding this past year, along with two
[2:23:26] of my neighbors who are here downstairs. Also
flooded two years ago again had not flooded
[2:23:32] in 50 years. I would add though, and my goal
right now is not to complain, but that we have
had
[2:23:39] our flooding, or at least the street flooding
every year for 15 years. The moment we have
[2:23:44] heavy rains, they didn't reach to the level
of our houses. I'm on an incline I don't have.
I'm
[2:23:48] not going in the opposite direction. So in
fact, not at risk of flooding mostly. But
[2:23:53] we've still had this problem for two years
in a row. That being said, I've had the
[2:23:57] benefit of hearing so many of my fellow citizens
speak this evening. And as to you as well,
[2:24:02] Mr. Mayor, particular speaking, and what's
clear, I think from what I've heard from the
[2:24:08] citizens, yes, we have a problem. It's heartbreaking.
Some of the stories we've heard
[2:24:13] this evening, worse than I am. Hearts out to
many of the people have spoken earlier this
[2:24:17] evening. But the reality is, is there's a lot
of competing priorities that you're going to
[2:24:23] be dealt with. You've alluded to some of them
this evening. Our street, of course, from my
[2:24:28] perspective selfishly is a priority. But so
is the Belmar with the Del Mar we heard this
[2:24:32] evening. There's also limited funds. Let's
be honest, there are limited funds, limited
[2:24:38] budget. You you alluded to the prioritization
process that has to be done. You've consulted
[2:24:43] with people. You have consultants coming in.
I have two questions. The first
[2:24:47] question is what criteria is the council are
you collectively going to be
[2:24:52] looking at when it comes to actually prioritizing
how you will allocate major funds for
[2:24:58] infrastructure projects? Because obviously
there will be competing projects cleaning
[2:25:02] here, redoing infrastructure there. So how
do you what criteria will you be applying
[2:25:09] to prioritize where funds are allocated? When
you get all these consultation reports in?
[2:25:15] And number two, when and how as residents,
will we be able to access the results of the
[2:25:24] fruits of this analysis so that we can see
in a transparent manner how you prioritize
these
[2:25:30] projects, in what order? And I mean, just to
be clear, because my question is clear, it's
not
[2:25:34] just knowing that you're doing A and B and
C in that order, but why A and not F and why
B
[2:25:42] and not D? I think there's that's owed to the
residents in the circumstances given, as you
[2:25:50] mentioned, the new reality we're facing with
which is hitting some residents harder
[2:25:55] than others. There's clearly patterns developing
within the city. So those are my two
[2:25:59] questions for you. >> So I mean great questions.
And it's going to be a tough
[2:26:03] one to answer clearly because a little while
ago, like I said, we had maybe five priorities,
[2:26:07] which we could deal with over a couple of years.
But now there's more, now there's more.
[2:26:11] They're going to obviously come as of this
week, some of the stuff that we looked at,
like
[2:26:17] sandalwood that got prioritized because it's
been that's been flooding for not only recently,
[2:26:24] but for many, many years prior to three years
ago, because of the runoff of terracotta. And,
[2:26:30] and they've had issues for years and years
and years and years. And that's one reason
[2:26:35] that got prioritized, prioritized. Sometimes
it's the infrastructure under the ground
[2:26:41] that will create the priority. If we change
this piece of pipe here, it's going to help
over
[2:26:45] there and help over there, or this is what
we can afford to do. And it's going to there's
[2:26:50] many, many criteria. Obviously, it's number
of times of flood severity budgets, the, the,
the
[2:26:57] amount of work, is it changing 100m of pipe
or changing three kilometers of pipe? There's
all
[2:27:01] kinds of things that we have to look at. So
there's no clear. I can't tell you. We have
to look
[2:27:07] at every project and we're starting to look
at them more and more in more detail. And
[2:27:11] then we're going to make a list, and that's
going to the capital expenditure budget. And
then we
[2:27:15] only have so much money. And we have to, you
know, we have other things we have to do too.
[2:27:20] We still have to pay the bills and we still
have to, you know, so we have to try to fit
it in
[2:27:26] to all that. And that's when, if you've been
here all night, we've had many, many meetings
[2:27:30] around capital expenditure, budget and reallocating
money and increasing and cutting out
[2:27:33] projects to prioritize water, water retention
plans, programs. So yeah, I don't have a I
can't
[2:27:37] give you an exact answer about what it is or
criteria because not a, B, C there's multiple
[2:27:42] things that go into it. >> But but will we
see though, the fruits of that analysis
[2:27:46] when it comes time to applying the criteria
and you've landed at result A, B, and C in
that
[2:27:51] order of priority, will there be transparency
from the city with respect to what criteria
[2:27:56] apply and what weight there's. >> I don't think
I don't the criteria. There's nothing to
[2:27:59] hide. We got nothing to hide. I mean, like
I told you, there's budgets, there's the size
of
[2:28:04] the job, there's all kinds of things. But yeah,
absolutely. I mean, we've had, we've had
[2:28:08] three meetings to try to keep the people up
to par about what's going on since November
[2:28:12] with the flooding. And you'll see the capital
expenditures, and you'll see every year that
[2:28:16] comes out and there's a list of all the projects
and you can ask questions. Why did that
[2:28:20] project get. But we present the capital expenditures
to the public. And you can come and
[2:28:24] ask questions about it for sure. Absolutely.
Thank you, thank you.
[2:28:31] >> Marianne. Not. >> Go to the next okay. >>
No.
[2:29:06] >> Well, maybe that'd be a good idea. >> Okay.
Madam. No. Okay. No.
[2:29:41] Okay. Merci. A Michelle nurse or Michael nurse.
Oh, perfect. No.
[2:29:58] >> Hello, everybody. So I'm Claudine, and I'm
251 Saint Louis Avenue. Again, I'm not
[2:30:04] going to repeat what everybody's saying. I
think we're all on the same page. Our
[2:30:08] house is built in 86. It's been standing for
over 40 years. And since 2024 we've been there
for
[2:30:13] 21 years. But we know that the previous owner
and we know we've never had issues with the
[2:30:18] house, we actually had a French drain and never
really knew what it was technically for
[2:30:22] when we bought the house, because we've never
had flooding issues or need to know
[2:30:27] what it was for because we never saw any water
accumulation. Fast forward. We
[2:30:31] had the three floods in 22 months. We did what
the city told us to do. We went to the
[2:30:38] meetings that explained to us what we had to
do in order to protect our homes. So we went
[2:30:43] to those meetings and we hired experts, and
we had the French trained inspected to make
sure
[2:30:50] it was okay. We had the backflow valve changed,
make sure that that was in defective.
[2:30:56] We had not one, but two sump pumps installed
in the garage and next to the backflow valve
[2:31:01] with additional backup pumps in case there
was no power. So after that second flood, we
[2:31:07] thought we were foolproof and did not expect
this to be happening yet a third time. Now
[2:31:13] I was up north as well when this happened.
Luckily, my husband was home and after
[2:31:18] watching the cameras for about an hour, started
realizing that hell was breaking again and
[2:31:23] everything was flooded. So the street completely
flooded again. Yet again. And we are. Because
[2:31:29] we do have a sloped driveway. The water comes
down from Delmar, it piles up and once it
[2:31:35] reaches my driveway, stops right there. So
I saved the other houses. However, mine
[2:31:40] gets hit and we did do the construction three
times. Well, this would be the third time
[2:31:45] that we've started. So my question is because
I understand that you guys can't
[2:31:49] do everything at once. And there's clearly
a lot of issues to be dealt with. I want to
[2:31:53] know the Delmore, the Delmore work that has
been done, that was done, started in 2023 and
[2:32:00] 2024, from my understanding, from the 42 day,
Cano does coincide with a lot of problems
[2:32:05] that we are having on Saint Louis. And my understanding
from tonight's meeting, Del Mar
[2:32:09] as well, and I want to know if the city has
done basically an investigation to, you know,
[2:32:15] like an engineering review, hydrological analysis
and post-construction assessment to
[2:32:20] see if there's a to determine basically this
correlation between what we're experiencing
[2:32:25] now all of a sudden and this work that was
done, if yes, we want to know what the findings
[2:32:30] are. And if not, I would like to know if the
city can commit to conducting such an
[2:32:35] investigation and provide a timeline within
the next 12 months so that we can
[2:32:38] understand where this water is from. Because
here I don't want to assign blame, but I need
to
[2:32:43] figure out because I can't build my basement
yet again with no more insurance, knowing
[2:32:47] that I'm going to have to rip it off two two
months after I'm done again and my family lives
[2:32:52] down there. We need that space. >> So I can
just tell you, first of all, we have not done
[2:32:58] a study since the work has been done on Delmar
because it's a new street. And I mean, it's
[2:33:03] there shouldn't have been a problem. Right?
Can we do a hydraulic study and all this
[2:33:08] stuff that we're doing on many streets where
there's issues right now, we are doing them.
I
[2:33:12] don't know if Delmar is on that list. It's
something we'll have to look at down the road.
But
[2:33:18] can we get back to you on that and give you
an answer? I don't know if it's on the list,
if
[2:33:23] it's going to get put on the list. If we if
there's something we can look at,
[2:33:27] Mister or we're looking at. >> Yeah, I'll have
to get back to her. I'll have to get the
[2:33:32] list. >> But we'll get back to you. Give us
a couple days, we'll
[2:33:36] talk to engineering and we'll get back to you
for sure. >> Okay. And my follow up
[2:33:40] question would be that in the meantime, since
we can't fix this overnight and we do need
[2:33:44] to do repairs so that we can gain our home
back and have somewhat of a safety. Kansas
[2:33:49] City not put some kind of a temporary measure,
whether it's pumping the water out of the
[2:33:53] the street on Saint Louis and Delmar. There's
a soccer park there. There's a little
[2:33:57] roundabout on Saint Louis. There's some green
spaces that are there that are available.
[2:34:00] And I'm sure that putting that water into some
of those lands, even my land, I wouldn't mind
[2:34:05] if it went on my grass because my grass stays
dry, my backyard is dry, the whole street on
my
[2:34:10] left and my neighbor behind is dry, and even
the pumps are pumping out to the back. But
[2:34:14] the water is is emptying. The whole street
is emptying into my house. I had two feet of
[2:34:19] water this time. Despite the two sump pumps,
despite the French drain, despite the new
[2:34:22] backflow valve, I can't lift my house of 20ft
in the air. There's no more options. So
[2:34:27] I've done my part. I understand that you guys
are doing all the research, but there's a problem
[2:34:31] there specifically, like a lot of areas. And
in the meantime, until this is resolved, having
[2:34:35] some kind of a temporary measures, even if
it's these these walls that they deploy,
[2:34:39] you know, these inflatable walls that can protect
the driveways to kind of create a
[2:34:43] channel or pumping the water on these green
spaces, but have someone because right now
we
[2:34:47] even have people just driving by. Nobody blocks
the street. We have to put our own cars
[2:34:51] there to block the street because people are
driving by and all you see is those
[2:34:55] beautiful waves coming into our house. People
might not understand what's going on, and
[2:34:58] they're not realizing they're trying to get
home to their own house. But in the end, we're
[2:35:03] paying the price for it. So we need an emergency
plan in place to block the street, to pump
[2:35:07] the water out on grasses, on that green space,
or on the soccer park, wherever it is, to
[2:35:12] at least diminish the amount of water that
comes in so that the pumps that we put in and
that
[2:35:17] we spend that much money installing to save
our home, can actually have time to pump
[2:35:21] it out instead of having this rush of like,
flash flooding coming in.
[2:35:24] >> So I'm going to go back to will give us
a couple of days. We'll get back to you with
the.
[2:35:30] >> For the Donmar. >> Yeah, for Delmar and
I mean, it came up a lot tonight. So
[2:35:34] it's interesting. >> Clearly it's an issue.
>> For a lot of people there.
[2:35:38] So so you're not the only one. We've heard
some great stories, great stories, but some
[2:35:42] informative stories. So let's we'll get back
to you. Thank you. All right. Thank you.
[2:35:45] >> Stephen Suey. >> Good evening. I have two
properties in. But I think it's
[2:36:03] district seven and Canal Street. So both are
flooded in 2024 and 21. Flooded 2025 and 2026.
Both
[2:36:15] are flooded again. When was the power? When
power is blacked out completely. So I don't
[2:36:24] think the sump pump is one of the reasons.
Pump up the water completely from the basement.
[2:36:31] But. Capacity of the of the storm drainage
that's caused the problem. So I heard a lot
[2:36:43] of stories there before and listen, lots of
solutions. City proposed. I just want to say
we
[2:36:51] want to work together. So for sure. So long
story short. So for, for for for consultation,
[2:36:59] household by household. That's a good idea.
So just want to know if city have any
[2:37:07] measurement for subsidized subsidized, any
improvement on, on, on the project we're going
[2:37:14] to do going to further down because we, every
time we're, we're being damaged, we
[2:37:22] insurance asking for improvement or proof of
a renovation we completed every
[2:37:30] time. So that's the third time we have to do.
Should we do. Because lots of my homeowners.
[2:37:37] It's already refused by the insurance company
to cover the basement. We don't want that
[2:37:43] situation come to us. You know, that's a that's
that's too terrible. So we just want to
[2:37:51] see city do your part. Engineering department,
you know, get looking into it
[2:37:58] because it seems a very bad thing for the past
two, three years.
[2:38:04] >> So we're looking into all that. Exactly
what you said. But we also asked about
[2:38:10] financial assistance. 5.2 on the agenda. Yeah.
As of tomorrow morning, you'll be
[2:38:15] able to request for it. Yeah, up to $5,000
or 50% of your project. If you have to do
[2:38:23] stuff to your house, like a backflow valve,
like a backflow valve. Spring water garden,
[2:38:33] French drain, all anything that would help
retain water from going into your house. You
can
[2:38:38] apply for financial assistance as of tomorrow
morning. >> Okay.
[2:38:42] >> That's great. That's only five up to $5,000.
>> Yeah. Up to okay.
[2:38:46] >> So sorry. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So obviously
on Dennis and you know, I know exactly
[2:38:52] where you are. Just reach out to me. I'll come
to your home. I'll give you a non
[2:38:56] professional opinion. I'm pretty well versed
on what's going on. I'll explain to you
[2:39:00] and your neighbors. >> Yeah, we, we. >> Reach
out to me and I'll be
[2:39:04] more than happy to. >> Do that. Okay? Okay.
So because we already midnight, we
[2:39:07] tried to borrow a generator to pump up the
water in the midnight because all all street
[2:39:14] independent is blacked out completely, you
know? >> So can you dig it up? Like
[2:39:19] meet him after or whatever then so we can get.
>> Yeah, hopefully, hopefully
[2:39:23] we can, we can find a solution eventually solve
it completely because we don't want the
[2:39:27] insurance company to come back to say we reject,
refuse you. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
[2:39:34] thank you. >> Elizabeth. Mario. >> Mr. Tang,
is there anybody
[2:39:44] else downstairs? There are more people downstairs.
>> Well, most of them. We've
[2:39:48] asked them if they have questions to come up.
>> Okay, madam.
[2:39:52] >> Elizabeth. Amarillo. Okay. Hans. Volstad.
>> All right. Hi. Good evening.
[2:40:10] You called me an hour 34 minutes ago. I guess
this is my my second chance. Do I get more
[2:40:14] time or. I'm still three minutes. >> Three
minutes.
[2:40:17] >> Everybody else. All right. Okay, so I'm
going to, I guess I've been coming here for
about
[2:40:21] a year now, trying to find out what is guiding
you in your decisions and in terms of where
[2:40:26] you're spending money, how you're going to
how you're going to fix things. There's
[2:40:30] been previous mayor was saying with, with green
infrastructure was going to fix everything.
[2:40:35] That was a no brainer, he said. So yeah. And
then along the way to ask, okay, when you decided
[2:40:41] to do the, the Belmont Sponge Park, we asked
for what kind of benefits were going to come
[2:40:48] from that. And I guess you, you responded that
the benefits would be a good it would be
[2:40:53] better. So, so not not really a very strong
number there, but okay, all of that going back
a
[2:40:59] year, you said we're going to be guided by
a report from the ETS. I asked about that a
[2:41:06] couple of months ago. I thought it was due
in January. Now I was told it's due in June.
So
[2:41:11] have we received that guiding report from the
ETS? >> First of all, Mr. Halstead,
[2:41:16] I'd just like to explain that I think since
November, since I got in this seat, I think
we've
[2:41:21] met maybe three times in the office. Twice.
Twice, twice with engineering, with the City
[2:41:27] Council director general. And we've answered
and we've been and analyzed all.
[2:41:31] >> We never I never asked that question the
last time we met or the time.
[2:41:35] >> Before that. In general, we've met, we've
had lots of conversations about this. So
[2:41:39] you made some statements about Belmont and
Sandalwood and the park. Well, I mean, we agree
or
[2:41:44] not agree, the berm worked the other day, so
it stopped a lot of houses from flooding that
[2:41:49] berm the other day on terrace. >> Yeah. It
worked well, apparently I've seen pictures
[2:41:53] from it. Thank you. And it held back. >> As
far as the study goes. I
[2:41:57] don't know if we got it yet. >> Nope. Not yet.
>> We haven't got it yet.
[2:42:01] >> Are you asking about when you will receive
it? >> It it's this this summer
[2:42:06] we're gonna. >> It would be this summer. >>
So this summer, not June.
[2:42:09] Okay. All right. So no date. Thank you. Okay.
Second question then. It's not really
[2:42:16] a question. I'm going to go back to Jennifer
Waugh was up here second about two hours ago,
[2:42:21] I guess. And she asked about the the swales
or the pits, if you like in in zone two of
the
[2:42:28] the sponge park. And I guess your answer was
we'll let them finish their work. Well, they
[2:42:34] are finished their work in zone two. They've
taken down the fences. All the planting is
[2:42:38] done. The whole. >> Project is not finished
yet. >> No, no. But the rest of the
[2:42:42] project, if you're familiar with. Okay, if
you let me. >> Finish project, the whole
[2:42:46] project ties into each other. >> No it doesn't.
That's independent. Her problem was
[2:42:50] she was saying there's water at the bottom
of that basin that is not draining. The sponge
is
[2:42:54] not sponging. All right, so the water is not
going down. It's going up. Right. So she raised
[2:43:00] two points with that stagnant water and danger
from deep water permanently.
[2:43:06] >> In place. >> Okay. And so I can think of
three things that you could do
[2:43:11] to alleviate that. One of the things is, and
only one of those things only addresses one
[2:43:18] of the problems. And that's do a fence, right?
Because that does nothing for the stagnant
[2:43:23] water. You still have the, there's two other
options you could have done. One of the
[2:43:28] options would have been cheap if you had actually
done it. When it became obvious what the
[2:43:32] problem was, which was two and a half weeks
ago, you could see that the water level, the
water
[2:43:37] was not going down, it was going up. You could
have done something cheap at the time.
[2:43:41] That's too late now because it's being covered
up with grass and plantings and rocks,
[2:43:46] so you sort of missed it. You missed a chance.
So why are you doing a fence when there are
[2:43:51] other options you could do there? >> The defenses
in the plant,
[2:43:56] right. >> It's not in the plan. No, no, no,
it was never there. That's
[2:44:00] a fix. >> It's a fix. >> No, the the fence
is part of
[2:44:05] the project. >> Fence is part of. Okay. Was
not part of the project at the
[2:44:09] time of bidding anyway. So that was added after
the the tender process.
[2:44:12] >> I can't I don't know, I don't know the tender
in front of me, but we were informed as
[2:44:17] a fence going there. Anyway. Another question
sir. >> No, that was second question.
[2:44:20] That's good. All right. So all right. So will
you get back on that? You've told me that I'm
[2:44:25] wrong. >> We're going to look at now that you've
brought this up
[2:44:28] about the swales and the stagnant water, we
have to take a look at it.
[2:44:32] >> I mean, would you come would you want to
come by tomorrow? Do you have time to come
by?
[2:44:37] I'll show you what the problem is. >> I, I
have to I don't have my
[2:44:41] phone with me to check my agenda, but I can
if you want to call the office tomorrow
[2:44:46] morning. I don't have my. I know my agenda
with me, but I can we can I can reach out to
[2:44:51] you tomorrow, or I can wait till your counselor.
>> In town. I'm very available.
[2:44:55] So you have my number and email. Yeah. >> Thank
you. I will thank you.
[2:44:58] >> Demetrios beaches. No, Dimitrios. Business?
No. Frank. Frank. Sombrero. No. Hou
[2:45:20] junfeng. Monsieur. Madame. Feng. >> Maybe this.
>> No. Arshad. Jilani. Sorry,
[2:45:56] he did advise. No, I don't have more names.
>> How many more? That's it.
[2:46:15] Okay. Well, I think we're safe to say we can
go to the agenda. Oh, he is here. Okay.
[2:46:23] >> He just stepped out for a second. And we
have enough. Fine. But I.
[2:46:29] >> Arrive, we arrive. Here we go. How are you,
sir? >> I'm fine, thank you.
[2:47:03] >> You almost missed your time. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. >> Wrong timing.
[2:47:08] >> Okay. >> Let's go. So my questions are very
quick. You said that
[2:47:15] changing the pipe from smaller diameter to
the larger for the drainage takes approval,
like
[2:47:25] three years. So where do we stand right now?
Like countdown of.
[2:47:31] >> I didn't understand the question. Approval
for. >> For changing the drainage
[2:47:37] pipe. >> Oh, okay. I was talking earlier when
we wanted, for
[2:47:41] instance, there's an area that we were looking
at. We wanted to enlarge the pipe. Yes.
[2:47:45] Because we. Anyway, it was going to help a
situation, but we weren't allowed to because
[2:47:51] the. A lot of the water pipes are controlled
by Montreal, so they have to sign off on it.
It
[2:47:55] could take 18 months to two years to get the
okay on that. It just goes to show you how
[2:48:00] much time some things take. Sometimes other
things we can do right away. But there are
[2:48:04] certain scenarios where things take time. It's
complicated. >> So when did we started the
[2:48:09] request? What date we started? >> We just we're
just looking at it now.
[2:48:15] >> Looking at it. >> We're looking where we
we, we we're analyzing it now. But
[2:48:19] we've been told that if we want to go that
way, that's the process. Then that's how long
[2:48:23] it would take. >> Okay. So we have initiated
the process. Yes. So from now,
[2:48:32] if we calculate it will be. >> But that's only
I don't know. Is it one pipe in one? One
[2:48:39] street is not changing all the pipes in the
city. It's one pipe on one street for a
[2:48:44] particular problem. You understand? >> Oh my
God.
[2:48:49] >> That's what it is. It's this street here
has a pipe. We want to enlarge a section of
it to
[2:48:55] alleviate. And that is not changing all the
pipes in the city. It's changing one pipe on
[2:48:59] one street. You can take that long. That's
how complicated when people want us to react
[2:49:04] and do things. I'm just trying to make an example
how hard it can be sometimes, how
[2:49:08] complicated it can be. >> Okay, my second question
is that, as you also mentioned,
[2:49:15] that we are giving away 58% of our revenue
to the city of Montreal. So do we have a
[2:49:26] transparency how they are spending, how much
they are spending on which services?
[2:49:32] >> Yeah, absolutely. It's all documented. Go
online. You can see where all the money goes.
[2:49:36] They know we know exactly where it's going.
Are they being efficient with it? That's
[2:49:40] another story. But we know where it's going.
It goes to the fire. It goes to the police.
[2:49:44] It goes to public transit. It goes to water.
That's the main the four major things.
[2:49:48] >> How much amount wise. >> $106 million. 25.
$28 million to police, 20 some odd
[2:49:54] million to fire. It's all documented. Don't
have the numbers right in front of me.
[2:49:58] It's all there. It's all public. The problem
is we don't get what we pay for. That's the
[2:50:03] biggest problem. >> Can we reduce that? We'd
love to.
[2:50:06] >> We've been trying for 21 years. We've been
trying. Okay, so and we're still trying today.
[2:50:10] There's a lot of stuff going on in the back
rooms. We don't talk about it every day, but
[2:50:15] there's something going. We have an association
and yes, we're asking. We're trying to.
[2:50:19] The new mayor of Montreal has told us she would
sit down with us and understand it, which is
[2:50:23] a good thing because we never had that before.
And so I'm hoping that within the next 6
[2:50:28] to 8 months, she's promised to meet with us
before the new budget comes out, and hopefully
[2:50:32] we will have something that she'll understand
what we're up against and kind of increase
by
[2:50:36] 18 and $20 million a year. We just can't afford
it anymore. >> Okay. All right. Thank you
[2:50:42] very much. >> Thank you. Good night. Okay.
We can go to the agenda now,
[2:50:47] please. Thank you guys. Thank you for being
so patient. >> En fonction de son
[2:51:45] utilization. Pour les besoins des municipalités
de. >> District six. Thank you.
[2:52:01] >> 5.2 adoption of a bylaw establishing a financial
assistance program for storm
[2:52:04] water management on private residential property.
The bylaw aims to establish a financial
[2:52:09] assistance program to encourage residential
property owners to implement sustainable
[2:52:12] stormwater management measures directly on
the property. This program addresses the increased
[2:52:17] frequency of rainfall events linked to climate
change, with a view to reducing strain on
[2:52:21] the sewage network and the risk of flooding.
It targets all single and two dwelling
[2:52:26] residential properties within the city territory,
commercial and industrial buildings, as
[2:52:30] well as buildings with three or more dwellings,
are therefore excluded. The bylaw provides
[2:52:34] that the city may may retain the services of
an external firm to carry out evaluation
[2:52:39] visits to properties in order to diagnose drainage
problems and recommend the most
[2:52:43] appropriate measures. Financial assistance
can cover up to 50% of the cost of eligible
works,
[2:52:48] including the city's mandatory evaluation,
up to a maximum of $5,000 per property over
a five
[2:52:55] year period. The program covers various technical
and landscaping measures, including
[2:52:58] backflow valves, roof drains, sealing of water
inlets, catch basins and foundation drains,
[2:53:05] rain gardens, permeable surfaces, rainwater
harvesting barrels, disconnection of
[2:53:11] gutters and correcting of ground slopes. >>
Do you have a mover and
[2:53:15] seconder for 5.2, please? >> Kelly Thorstad
Cullen, district three.
[2:53:22] >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski, district
four. And if I can just speak
[2:53:27] just briefly to. I just want to say that I
think this is a very good program that's been
put
[2:53:32] together. I want to thank my fellow members
of council, the mayor and the city manager
for
[2:53:37] their work on it. But I do think it's important
to stress, as we've sort of mentioned,
[2:53:42] that there should be some openness to allowing
it to evolve in the future in
[2:53:47] response to the concerns that citizens bring
to us. And I think in particular, after.
[2:53:53] Well, while the priorities to adopt it now,
to get the money out of the door quickly, I
[2:53:58] think in the long run, we do need to look at
perhaps expanding it to townhouses of
[2:54:02] the types that you have on Hymas and Greenwich
or on Donegani, which may be
[2:54:06] considered multi-family under terms of the
bylaw. But where I think there could be a useful
[2:54:12] way of expanding it. All right. Thank you.
>> Mr. Mayor. Just just on that
[2:54:17] note, 1 to 2 unit dwellings are eligible. So
the townhouses. >> Not not the condominiums
of
[2:54:25] the kinds that are at Greenwich, like the 28
Union at Prima, for example. So that would
be what
[2:54:30] I would be referring to. Okay. >> Thank you,
thank you. All in favor, please. Thank you.
[2:54:37] >> 6.1 this is. A commercial village of Pointe-Claire.
>> And 6.2 to grant financial
[2:54:47] support for a total amount of $1,000 to the
Royal Canadian Legion branch, 57 Pointe Claire.
[2:54:56] >> Festival of Blues, West Island. Association.
Communautaire. Alphabetization
[2:55:10] Sinemet et perspective. Communautaire unsentimental.
>> And 6.4 to authorize the
[2:55:15] participation of four members of Council at
the 16th edition of the golf tournament
[2:55:18] organized by the tourist de la Palliative Care
Residence, to be held on August 31st, 2026.
[2:55:23] The members of council authorized by this resolution
are Mayor John Belvedere, as
[2:55:27] well as councilors Kelly Thorstad Cullen, Eric
Stork and Mike Potvin.
[2:55:31] >> Mover and seconder, for 6.1 to 6.4, please.
>> Council district.
[2:55:37] >> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district seven.
>> All in favor?
[2:55:42] >> Said. The circulation. >> And 7.2 appoint
members to the Youth Advisory Board. The
[2:55:52] following new members are appointed for the
period from September 1st, 2026 to August
[2:55:55] 31st, 2027. Tristan Crawford, Danielle Akinfenwa,
a Lara Alderman.
[2:56:02] >> Gavin moved and seconded for 7.2, please.
>> Kelly Thorstad Cullen,
[2:56:06] District 12. >> Second by. >> Eric Stork, district
seven.
[2:56:10] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> This. Point
six. >> And 10.2 acceptance of a
[2:56:23] donation of artwork, which is the portrait
of May Beatrice Stewart and the issuance of
a
[2:56:27] tax receipt. This is the portrait of May Beatrice
Stewart, a work by Randolph
[2:56:31] Stanley Hutton donated by Alexandra Debater,
daughter of Diana Stewart. The artwork
[2:56:36] holds significant historical heritage and cultural
value in connection with Stewart Hall.
[2:56:40] An independent appraisal of the artwork was
conducted to establish its fair value market,
[2:56:44] which is estimated at $25,000. >> This point
represents. Des entreprises du Québec,
[2:56:55] representing Madame Julie Robinson and Monsieur
Daniel Seguin du service des finances.
[2:57:01] >> For 10.2, 10.3, 10.4. >> Please know we
didn't do 10.40.
[2:57:07] >> Sorry. >> Thank you. >> District six.
[2:57:12] >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight.
>> All in favor? Thank you.
[2:57:19] >> 10.4 to authorize a budget amendment of
$60,000 to support the implementation of a
[2:57:23] permanent public artwork at Edgewater Park,
in accordance with the city's ongoing public
[2:57:27] art initiatives and project planning timelines.
The installation of the artwork is
[2:57:31] scheduled for the fall of 2026. >> A mover
and seconder for 10.4.
[2:57:39] >> District six. >> Mike Bloodvein, district
eight.
[2:57:43] >> I'd like to speak to this one. Just I'm
gonna be voting against this one. I'm not
[2:57:50] against the principle of public art, but on
the same basis that earlier this year I voted
[2:58:00] against the $5.8 million that was spent on
the aquatic center locker rooms, because I
believe
[2:58:08] that it should have been invested in road work
and flood mitigation. I'm kind of
[2:58:14] symbolically voting against this one to send
the same general message that we need to
[2:58:19] think about restraint in places where we can
reallocate funds to go to. I think the
[2:58:26] priorities that are that are more urgent. And
I mean, why choose this one? It's a smaller
[2:58:30] amount. There's a lot of things that are small
amounts as well. I think it is one that sends
a
[2:58:35] message. And visually, I would just note that
it essentially consists of sending. A metal
[2:58:46] pipe about seven feet into the air. That's,
that's what the sculpture essentially is. And
I
[2:58:51] look at that and get the impression that most
people would look at it and think that
[2:58:55] we should be building more of them under the
ground. So that's my reason for
[2:58:59] identifying this one specifically. Thank you.
So thank you.
[2:59:03] >> Just a comment regarding the the public
art. I sit on the the public Art committee,
the
[2:59:08] public Art Committee spends a great amount
of time working on these various projects.
The
[2:59:14] establishment of the budget was made several
months ago. A hearing. The comments made by
[2:59:21] Councilor Swidsinski encourages me a great
deal as public art is designed to. To wake
up the
[2:59:28] population, to stimulate thought and ideas
and controversies. So I think it's
[2:59:33] doing its job quite effectively. And I sympathize
with your symbolic vote, Mr. Swidsinski,
[2:59:39] and I think we can start working together on
perhaps looking at another way of
[2:59:44] approaching this important thing. >> Okay.
Thank you boys, let's
[2:59:48] move on. >> We need a vote, though. >> Oh,
yeah. Okay, so 10.4
[2:59:53] mover and secondary, please. Ten four. Oh,
no. Sorry. >> Ten four two vote. Just the
[2:59:58] vote. Just the vote. >> So who's in favor of
ten? >> Four one.
[3:00:03] >> Thank you. Who's against? Thank you. >>
Thank you.
[3:00:10] >> At this point. For the acquisition of. >>
10.6 to award a contract for
[3:00:25] the purchase of Genetec licenses for five years
to secure max system for a total
[3:00:29] amount of $121,413.38. Taxes included. Genetec
camera licenses enable each camera to
[3:00:37] be integrated into the video management system.
They provide access to essential features
[3:00:41] such as recording, live viewing, event management,
and centralized administration.
[3:00:46] >> At this point. The. Logistics for. An option.
>> Seconder for 10.5, 10.6 and
[3:01:09] 10.7, please. >> District six. >> Second by
Mike.
[3:01:14] >> District eight. >> All in favor? Thank you.
>> So.
[3:01:21] >> 1111.1 is the filing of certificates of
completion for the mandatory training
[3:01:25] concerning the municipal system in accordance
with the regulation respecting the
[3:01:27] training of elected municipal officers, Council
members must, within nine months of the start
[3:01:32] of their term, complete at least 7.5 hours
of eligible training covering the following
[3:01:36] topics the functioning of the local and regional
municipality and of municipal council
[3:01:42] relations between the municipalities, political
and administrative bodies, budget
[3:01:47] management, municipal finances and taxation,
and land use. Planning and development.
[3:01:56] >> Avec les propriétaires propriétaires.
ET. Zero cadastre of Quebec. Correspond
[3:02:07] or sector. ET sur le Boulevard Brunswick, avec
la ville de Vienne, Propriétaire du
[3:02:15] Boulevard, Brunswick et Hermitage, donnant
sur le Boulevard, Brunswick de la. 0.6
[3:02:35] de tolerance qui sera avec des propriétés
au sujet de six zero qui se trouvent. L'acces
aux
[3:02:47] stationnement souterraines et au. Sans aucun
guarantee de qualité et de la société pour
[3:02:58] les personnels du vendeur. >> And seconder
for 11.2 plus. >> District six.
[3:03:07] >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski district.
>> All in favor? Thank you.
[3:03:15] >> 12.1 to file the list of delegated staff
changes for the month of July 2020.
[3:03:20] >> 6.3 approve. 11, six. >> And 12 point. >>
So go ahead. Go ahead. We'll
[3:03:26] do okay. Go ahead. >> And 12.113 to approve
the draft. Pointe Claire blue
[3:03:31] collar collective agreement applicable for
the period of January 1st, 2024 to December
[3:03:34] 31st, 2029. The document resolves recurring
issues with the application of the previous
[3:03:39] collective agreement and is fair to both parties.
It is consistent with our strategic
[3:03:43] plan and is part of a sustainable development
approach for the organization.
[3:03:47] >> Seconded for 12.2 and 12.3, please. >> Mike.
[3:03:53] >> District are. >> All in favor. Thank you.
>> Collaboration avec le center
[3:04:04] de la ville de. Qui NE sont plus utiles pour
des. Équipements sont remplacé par
[3:04:16] des équivalents plus récents. >> 14.2 to
authorize the participation of the City of
[3:04:21] Pointe Claire and the group purchased for the
2026 2027 winter season. For the call for
[3:04:26] tenders prepared by the City of Montreal, for
the supply and delivery of winter abrasives
[3:04:30] and deicing salt. In order to benefit from
advantageous financial conditions. The city
[3:04:34] wishes to join this group purchasing agreement
with the City of Montreal to procure
[3:04:38] deicing salt >> Required for its operations.
The approximate annual quantity
[3:04:41] is about 6000 tons, but may vary upward or
downward depending on weather conditions
[3:04:45] for the sake of administrative efficiency.
Should annual requirements exceed 6006 6000
[3:04:51] tons, this quantity may be increased provided
that the necessary funds are available.
[3:05:00] >> For automobile. >> And. 14.4 to exercise
a renewal option provided for in
[3:05:12] the contract entered into with Service Inc.
for the year 2026 and the amount of $42,894.87
[3:05:19] taxes included for Arboricultural works on
the shores of Lake Saint Louis, as
[3:05:23] well as tree pruning works along the streets
in anticipation of snow removal.
[3:05:30] >> Dans la Boissiere du Parc Cedar Park Heights
at orange. De la Cote de mécanique des
[3:05:49] plus gros, lorsque des souches de plus de six
centimeters la zone avec des arbres indigenes
[3:05:58] l'ensemble des bases. >> 14.6 over the contract
for the treatment of ash trees by
[3:06:05] injection on the public and private domains
for the 2026 season. To be controller Inc.
[3:06:10] with the 2027 season in option, this contract
covers ash trees on both public and private
[3:06:16] property. The treatment of trees on private
property remains at the discretion of
[3:06:19] each individual owner, and the contract is
valued at $130,000. >> Do you have a mover
and
[3:06:24] secondary for 14.1 through 14.6? >> Andrew
Swidsinski, district four.
[3:06:30] >> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district
two.
[3:06:33] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> Can you spare
the. Tax for. Pointe-Claire. Oliver. Urquhart.
[3:07:03] Les. Besoins. Sont. Les. Inspections. Hebdomadaires
et de la qualité de avec un
[3:07:12] rapport produit. >> 15.2. Exercise. The Renewal
of exercise. The renewal option
[3:07:19] provided for. In the contract entered into.
With Group Inc. for the period of August 1st,
[3:07:25] 2026 to July 31st, 2027 in the amount of $35,975.68.
Taxes included for extermination
[3:07:32] services for the City of Pointe-Claire. This
contract provides for a monthly service
[3:07:36] for various buildings concerning the supply
of groundhog cages, as well as
[3:07:39] pest, vermin and rodent control and extermination
services. >> And installation of. A
[3:07:51] construction. Tax. >> Includes moved and seconded
for 15.1 through 15.3.
[3:08:00] >> Eric Stewart, district seven. >> Second
by. >> Mike Potvin, district eight.
[3:08:05] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> 16.1 to award
a contract for the stabilization of the slope
[3:08:14] in the wetland area of Waverly Woods. Phase
two to Les Entreprises Ventech, Inc. for a
[3:08:19] total amount of $136,670.78, taxes included.
The work consists of constructing a
[3:08:26] vegetated rockfill to support the wetland banks
along the length of 34m near the
[3:08:30] residence, located at 28 Waverly Avenue and
creating basins in the center. Planting
[3:08:35] works are also required to help maintain the
existing natural environment.
[3:08:40] >> Six point. ET sanitaire des diverse pour
la pour un monton de. Modification contre le
[3:08:58] controle original. Malheureusement. >> Have
a mover and seconder
[3:09:07] for 16.116.2. >> District one. >> Ludovic Matthews,
District.
[3:09:14] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> So for 17.1,
17.4, 17, 11, 17, 13 and 1714, the persons
[3:09:25] present may address council on those items
by all means. Merci. >> Good evening again.
My name
[3:09:39] is Amanda Francis. I live at 107 Lakeshore
and I'm in district two. Today I'd like to
[3:09:45] address the agenda point of 17.14, which are
the minor exemptions related to the
[3:09:53] property at 106 Lakeshore. Specifically those
related to the above ground surface area
[3:09:59] and vehicle access. So my husband and I moved
into our home last May, just a month
[3:10:04] before welcoming our daughter. So although
I've only been in that house for one year,
I've
[3:10:09] actually been in the neighborhood my whole
life. I grew up around the corner on
[3:10:13] Lakeview. It's always been a priority of mine
to return to this neighborhood just because
[3:10:17] I loved it so much growing up. Pointe-Claire,
especially district two, is a unique
[3:10:22] neighborhood thanks to its historic and unique
homes, the mature trees and greenery, and
[3:10:26] the waterfront. I know this, as I said, I know
this from growing up here, but it only
[3:10:31] takes someone an afternoon of visiting to truly
appreciate how special of a place it is.
[3:10:36] With the 2021 amendment to the Cultural Heritage
Act of Quebec, which we mentioned earlier this
[3:10:41] evening, cities created inventories of all
homes built before 1940, which includes
[3:10:47] this property in question. These amendments
and lists were implemented to highlight and
[3:10:52] protect older homes in the Montreal area and
in the province. In doing this, by
[3:10:58] adding this house to the list, the City of
Pointe-Claire recognizes that this is a
[3:11:03] special property. The Cultural Heritage Act,
the heritage report commissioned for this
[3:11:08] property, and the demolition committee's conditions,
which I'll get into in a little in a
[3:11:12] moment, all recognized that any replacement
project must respect the historic character
[3:11:18] and built environment of this neighborhood.
My question before council today is whether
[3:11:23] you can say with confidence that the proposed
replacement project and the related
[3:11:28] exemptions reflect those same principles. As
the mayor highlighted earlier this
[3:11:32] evening, we'll be photographing historic homes
throughout the city this summer. Do we really
[3:11:36] want to photograph a historic home, only to
tear it down and replace it with a structure
[3:11:40] that, as it stands, bears absolutely no resemblance
to what is there today. The house
[3:11:45] at 106 Lakeshore was built in 1900, making
it one of the oldest remaining homes in the
[3:11:51] area. In fact, it predates the incorporation
of the city of Pointe-Claire, which happened
[3:11:55] in 1911, and the construction of Stuart Hall,
which we just discussed how it is an integral
[3:12:01] part of the Pointe-Claire history. So it lastly
sits beside the Maison de Gaulle,
[3:12:06] one of the oldest homes on the island of Montreal,
built in the 1700s. In September 2025,
[3:12:13] the demolition committee did approve the demolition
of this property, but with important
[3:12:18] conditions that I feel need highlighting. Tonight,
the replacement project was
[3:12:23] required to give greater consideration to,
and I quote, the immediate and surrounding
[3:12:28] built environment, particularly with respect
to siting, height and massing, the preservation
[3:12:34] and enhancement of the existing heritage context,
ensuring its special characters maintained
[3:12:39] through the integration and incorporation of
architectural elements that reference the
[3:12:44] building being demolished. And third, the surrounding
built environment characterized by
[3:12:49] houses sited close to the street, limited impervious
surface coverage and driveway
[3:12:54] width, and natural landscaped front yards.
The exemptions before council today should
[3:12:59] raise serious concerns because they appear
to be in direct conflict with all of these
[3:13:05] objectives, it is clear no effort has been
made to update the plans to reference the
[3:13:09] house being demolished. I also find it's helpful
to look at the numbers. The existing house
[3:13:16] has an above ground area of approximately 239m².
The minor exemption is requesting an area
[3:13:23] of 428m². That's 80% larger than the current
home and significantly larger than the
[3:13:30] neighboring properties, including my own. How
does this reflect the heritage of the
[3:13:35] current home? How does this address the condition
related to massing and height? It is
[3:13:39] also 11% above the maximum permitted area.
How is this considered minor? Another
[3:13:47] exemption request is for a driveway width of
ten meters, a whopping 64% above the 6.1
[3:13:53] limit. Can we really consider that as minor?
No houses in the area have driveways that width.
[3:13:59] How does this. How is this considered in the
surrounding built environment? What house
[3:14:05] from the 1900s has a three car driveway? These
are substantial increases, and I would ask
the
[3:14:12] council to consider whether these should truly
be considered as minor exemptions.
[3:14:16] Do these honestly address the conditions presented
by the demolition committee in
[3:14:20] September? Lastly, there is an important environmental
consideration consideration
[3:14:26] with recent flooding events and increasingly
intense rainfall that has been discussed at
[3:14:30] length tonight, preserving permeable ground
surfaces should be a priority in city
[3:14:35] and residential planning. Grass, mature trees
and natural landscaping are not just
[3:14:41] esthetic features, they are part of the infrastructure
that helps absorb stormwater and
[3:14:45] protect our homes. The surrounding properties
demonstrate that it is possible
[3:14:49] to build and renovate, while maintaining the
ground space that defines this neighborhood.
[3:14:53] I would like to note that in all of the flood
discussions this evening, I did not hear a
[3:14:58] complaint from district two. So obviously something
is working in our area. Pointe-Claire is
[3:15:05] 325 years of history, mature landscape, natural
landscape, and unique character are among
[3:15:10] its greatest assets. Large scale developments
that don't respect these characteristics,
[3:15:15] risk changing the very qualities that make
this area what it is. These exemption
[3:15:20] requests will undermine the province's efforts
to protect older homes, and will devalue
[3:15:24] the designation of a heritage home. This council
has the opportunity and responsibility
[3:15:29] to preserve these qualities today and for future
generations. I ask that you
[3:15:34] please consider these points when making your
decision tonight. Thank you.
[3:15:39] >> Thank you. >> So. 17.1 consider a minor
exemption request concerning
[3:15:47] the property located at 108 de la Pointe Clair
Avenue on projected lots 6676070 and
[3:15:55] 6676069 of cadastre of Quebec. It is to authorize
the construction of two single
[3:15:58] family dwellings, one on the projected lot
6676070 of the cadastre of Quebec, with a
[3:16:06] front setback of 6.2m, rather than the minimum
required of 7.5 and one on the projected
[3:16:11] lot 6676069 of the cadastre du Quebec, with
a front setback of 5.5m, rather than the minimum
[3:16:17] required of 7.5. >> And set. >> The mover and
seconder for
[3:16:26] 7.1. 17.1, please. >> Lyric Matthews, District
two. >> Second by.
[3:16:31] >> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> Said. De la Pointe Claire
[3:16:52] pour la construction d'une maison une familiale.
>> For a seconder for 117.2.
[3:17:02] >> Pardon? Is this where I can speak on the
matter, or is it at the derogation that I can
[3:17:07] speak on the matter? >> This is on 106.4 Avenue.
>> Okay.
[3:17:12] >> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> Eric Stork,
district seven. >> All in favor? Thank you.
[3:17:24] >> So. 17.3 consider the site Planning and
Architectural Integration program plans with
[3:17:30] respect to the property located at 108 de la
Pointe Claire Avenue, it is the construction
[3:17:34] of a single family dwelling, and the recommendation
is to approve the site planning.
[3:17:40] >> For 17.3, please. >> In district six. >>
Second by.
[3:17:48] >> Mike Potvin, district eight. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> Avenue del Mar concerns.
[3:18:06] 6668. Vous avez une recommendation favorable
du Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
[3:18:12] >> Just a. Mr. Mayor, with respect I want to
just make a comment. Short comment. So
[3:18:17] merci beaucoup. Who stayed this late? Much
appreciated. The. 66786 pour le center de dans
ma
[3:18:32] okay. A propos de l'hotel derniere. AU residence
q g. Just want to take one minute,
[3:18:44] one second to read something from my pamphlet,
which was under quality of life, said to
[3:18:50] restore and protect the commercial zoning of
the Del Mar shopping Center. So that's
[3:18:55] the reasons why I'll be voting no for this
one and for the other resolutions. Thank you.
[3:19:02] >> Can I speak to this one briefly as well?
I'd just like to say a couple of things.
[3:19:08] First of all, I share what councilor reasons
and as well as the proposal that it would
[3:19:15] be better to preserve the commercial services
by having a mixed use building instead of a
[3:19:21] wholly, wholly residential building. I would
make a very quick procedural note, which is
[3:19:26] that this is now the the third property that
we are withdrawing from the interim
[3:19:32] control bylaw. Over the course of this mandate.
And I, I generally agree with those who
[3:19:39] have expressed the criticism that we should
be revising and updating our urban planning
[3:19:45] before moving on all these projects, and I
think a lot of them can can wait the other.
I
[3:19:50] think the remaining six months that I imagine
it will take to do that, but I have a much
more
[3:19:57] simple procedural issue, which is that, in
my view, the proper way to proceed should be
to
[3:20:03] withdraw these properties from the interim
control bylaw before the projects are
[3:20:09] proposed, because in this situation that we
have here. If we approve this project, our
[3:20:18] approval will create rights for the developer,
where if we were to go later, 2 or 3 months
from
[3:20:24] now and refuse to remove it from the interim
control bylaw, well, they'd say, well, you
[3:20:29] approved it. Then I had to spend so much on
doing it. You have no business doing this.
So
[3:20:34] I believe the more effective way of doing it
would be the other way around. And it also
[3:20:39] creates a dilemma for councilors looking to
vote for these proposals based on their
[3:20:46] merits and on the zoning that currently exists.
Because I would look at this and I would
[3:20:51] say if it was done in the proper order, my
approach would be to vote against withdrawing
[3:20:58] it from the interim control bylaw, because
I believe that we should rezone it for a mixed
[3:21:04] use. That would require first floor commercial
and allow the DEP and ER and the daycare to
[3:21:10] remain. But once the zoning is changed and
it's been withdrawn from the interim control
bylaw,
[3:21:17] and I have to consider it as a purely residential
zoning, then I probably wouldn't have a
[3:21:22] problem with the kind of townhouses that are
being built. But I'm now in a situation
[3:21:27] where I can't really proceed in that manner.
And so that's why I'm voting against it as
well.
[3:21:32] Thank you. >> Comment from me as well, Mr.
Mayor, please. So I share some
[3:21:38] of those procedural concerns outlined just
this moment by Councilor Swidsinski, making
it
[3:21:46] rather challenging for me to to vote clearly
on on this particular project. And I'll be
[3:21:53] voting against. >> It. Okay. Can we have a
mover and seconder?
[3:21:59] >> Can I add something I just wanted to say
regarding this project that I too would have
[3:22:06] loved mixed use project on on this current
strip mall. It's, it's one of the last remaining
[3:22:15] ones within our inner suburbia. I tried to
fight hard to, to get the Athens Pizza Strip
mall
[3:22:24] to remain somewhat mixed use, but due to the
fact that this project will at least provide
[3:22:32] townhomes instead of single family homes, I
am somewhat willing to accept that dilemma.
[3:22:40] >> Thank you. >> Can we have a mover and seconded
for 17.1 then please?
[3:22:47] Sorry, where are my 17.4? Yeah. >> District
are. >> Second by.
[3:22:54] >> Kelly Cullen, district three. >> All in
favor please. >> Please hold. Okay.
[3:23:00] >> Who is it? Eric. Kelly. >> Yeah. >> Claudine,
Mike.
[3:23:06] >> And those against. >> All those against
one. Two. Perfect.
[3:23:10] >> Okay. >> 17.5 consider the site plan and
architectural integration
[3:23:17] program plans with respect to the property
at 477 Del Mar for the units one and eight
facing
[3:23:22] the Cameron Crescent Avenue. It is a new construction
single family townhouses.
[3:23:29] >> Set. Avenue D, Cameron Crescent, Nouvelle
Construction et des maisons, une famille.
[3:23:48] >> And 17.7 to consider site planning and architectural
integration program plans with
[3:23:52] respect to the property at 477 Del Mar for
units three and six facing the Cameron Crescent
[3:23:57] Avenue. Also for new construction, single family
townhouses said.
[3:24:07] >> Del Mar. Avenue del Mar for new construction.
>> Familial 17.9 to consider
[3:24:15] site planning and architectural integration
program plans with respect to the property
at 477
[3:24:19] Delmar Avenue for units two, four, five and
seven facing Del Mar Avenue, which are as well
[3:24:25] new construction and single family townhouses.
>> Two point. Six del Mar pour
[3:24:37] une nouvelle construction des maisons familiale.
Vous avez des recommandations favorable
[3:24:46] for ensemble des femmes de la porte du Comité
consultatif d'urbanisme.
[3:24:52] >> Can I do a grouping from 17.5 to 17.1? So
can I have a mover and seconder for 17.5 to
[3:24:59] 17.10 please. >> Includes in the district are.
>> Second by.
[3:25:04] >> District Trois. >> Thank you. All in favor.
Keep your hands. Up including
[3:25:12] Mike, Eric and Kelly. Okay. Not in favor Andrew
Bruno and Mike Butler. Thank you.
[3:25:29] >> 1711 to consider a minor exemption request
concerning the property at 133 de la Baie
[3:25:33] de Valois Avenue. It is to authorize the construction
of a single family dwelling without
[3:25:37] a garage, whereas the new single family dwelling
must have a garage with exterior
[3:25:41] stair access to the basement with a side setback
of 1.8m, rather than the minimum
[3:25:45] required of two meters, and with a facade width
of seven meters, rather than the minimum
[3:25:50] required of ten meters. >> Moved and seconded
for 17.11, please.
[3:25:59] >> Donc pour. Bruno Tremblay. >> De l'Abbaye
de Valois pour une nouvelle construction.
[3:26:21] >> Okay moved and seconded for 171117. >> District
six.
[3:26:28] >> Ludovic Matthews district. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> 17.13 consider minor
[3:26:38] exemption request concerning the property at
11 Auto Plaza Avenue. It is to authorize a
[3:26:42] combined total area of 25.22m² for three signs,
rather than the maximum permitted of 18.6m².
[3:26:50] A monument sign with a height of 3.66m, rather
than the maximum permitted of 2.5m, and
[3:26:58] a framed wall sign located on the second floor
level. Whereas only signs displaying detached
[3:27:02] letters without a frame are permitted. >> Moved
and seconded for 17.13,
[3:27:08] please. >> District six. >> All in favor? Oh,
sorry.
[3:27:14] >> David Matthews district. >> All in favor?
It's been a long.
[3:27:30] >> Concernant la propriété au chemin du Bois
du Lac Lakeshore pour permettre une famille
avec
[3:27:40] une marge. De. Meter carry. C'est un porch
on dans la marge de la maximum permet de 1.6m
et
[3:27:58] une. Superficie de maximum et. Maximum permet
de et vous avez une recommandation favorable
du
[3:28:11] comité consultatif d'urbanisme. >> The owner
have a chance to speak, hear or know. The owner
[3:28:20] of a chance to speak. >> We. Des dans les soins
pouvez commenter.
[3:28:33] >> Yes, he can speak. Yes, he can speak. >>
Hello, mayor.
[3:28:40] >> And the. >> Council members, regarding the
points that was brought up
[3:28:45] about regarding the margin and everything that
was about the the the stairs, that was a
[3:28:51] recommendation by the the city because they
wanted an implementation to be uniform
[3:28:56] with the, the house around the property. That
was what you had requested us to do initially.
[3:29:03] That was something what the city had, urbanism
had done. And that's what they wanted to
[3:29:06] add in a specification. Furthermore, regarding
the patrimonial. As you know, the
[3:29:11] demolition was done and accepted and the province
of Quebec had authorized the
[3:29:16] demolition for the property, considering that
it was not patrimonial and had no historic
[3:29:21] value. And there was also, again, a lot of
documentation done and expertise done showing
[3:29:26] that the house was no longer viable for reconstruction.
Furthermore, we had we had done
[3:29:32] multiple changes from the for for the house,
from our initial of what we wanted. We all
have.
[3:29:39] We made multiple changes to try to bring back
what the initial house has currently. We changed
[3:29:45] the roofing. We changed the size. We changed
the windows. We made multiple. As you know,
[3:29:52] it took me a year and a half, one year more,
more than that, a year and seven months. Now,
[3:29:57] considering last month to come to this point,
we made a lot of sacrifices, me and my wife,
to
[3:30:01] be able to have to present this house and to
be able to live in Pointe-Claire, we did consider
[3:30:06] everybody around us, even though everybody
talks about the two houses beside me, but
[3:30:11] no one talks about the house right in front
of me, which is a massive house, very beautiful,
[3:30:15] very modern, but no one seems to think about
about that house. When they think about my
house,
[3:30:21] I have to be uniform with everybody beside
me, but I can't be uniform with the one
[3:30:25] in front of me. I still did a lot of changes,
put a lot of money to be here. And these
[3:30:30] people were talking about having a flood for
the last two years. I haven't I don't have
a
[3:30:35] house since two years now, almost, and I probably
won't have it. Even if I get a
[3:30:39] positive approval today, it will still take
me a year to get to where I need to be to be
[3:30:44] able to move into this house. So I'm sure you
know the financial stress that is to
[3:30:48] have to pay two mortgages and still not know
if your house is going to be built. I made
[3:30:53] multiple sacrifices and we did all we could.
We went through all the steps to be able to
[3:30:58] reach here. We tried to appease everybody.
We had the CCU, the demolition committee. We
did
[3:31:02] everything we can to be able to implement us
and start a life with us in Pointe-Claire.
I
[3:31:07] don't know what else you can ask for us. The
only thing we're asking from you is to
[3:31:11] have a little more space above our garage,
which is 352ft² above the garage. There is
no
[3:31:17] change on the square footage on the grass.
We are doing exactly the square footage required
by
[3:31:22] the city, required by the CCU. So the house
that we reduced the house to fit your
[3:31:28] recommendations. The only thing we want is
that square footage on top of the garage, which
[3:31:33] just changed nothing regarding the the green
grass. So and regarding the marjaavaan all
[3:31:38] these things, that was a recommendation from
you guys saying that you wanted to have
[3:31:42] a uniform look of it because if not, it could
have been have a wider front frontage compared
[3:31:47] to the other houses. Regarding the garage thing,
is this because I was hoping to because
[3:31:52] it's going to be very tight for me to come
out. It's more of a question of security. And
the
[3:31:57] second thing is that you wanted to have the
garage a specific size. So to be able to fit
that
[3:32:02] recommendation, I turned the house to the side
and put the garage on the side of the house
[3:32:06] to be able to, to, to fit the minimum requirements
for the garage. But by doing that, I
[3:32:11] have to make the garage wider for the to permit
the car to turn around and to be able to
[3:32:16] get out of my house. So all these things are
all things that you had put upon me, and
[3:32:21] all the things that you had put restrictions
on me. And I worked hard and tried to find
a
[3:32:25] solution to make it happen. So after this point,
unless you don't want me to build and you
[3:32:30] don't want to, how to be continued like the
way it is, and you don't want us to live
[3:32:35] in Pointe-Claire. I think that's the point
we are at right now. So I hope you
[3:32:39] consider all of these points because we made
major efforts. If ever you saw the initial
[3:32:43] project we submitted, you can see how much
effort we made to come to the the project we
are
[3:32:47] presenting today. >> Thank you. >> My husband.
Can you go up to
[3:32:51] the mic though? Because people. Thank you.
>> Just to add, he touched on
[3:32:56] it, but we worked extremely hard with the CCU
committee to address all of your points, and
[3:33:02] they approved our project. We went through
all of those concerns the heritage, the size,
[3:33:09] the look, everything, and they said it fits
directly with the neighborhood. And they're
[3:33:14] specialists, they're urbanists. So I just want
to reiterate that because that was a big
[3:33:20] undergoing on our end to work with them and
collaborate with them also yourselves to get
to
[3:33:24] this point. And I understand the concerns,
but we have reiterated it with your council
[3:33:30] prior to this and the CCU, and have done a
lot of work. And we we know these concerns,
but
[3:33:36] we've addressed them all already. >> Thank
you. No, you've
[3:33:43] already had your chance. Right. Okay. >> Mr.
Mayor, I suggest that we
[3:33:50] that you vote on 17.14. >> Then can I say something
about it then?
[3:34:07] >> Can I have a mover, a second number 17.14,
please. >> 1714 Kelly Thorstad Cullen,
[3:34:13] district three. >> Eric Storch, district seven.
>> Thank you. All in favor? You
[3:34:20] want to speak? Go ahead. >> So I just want
to start. I'm sorry. It's going to probably
[3:34:26] be in French. Is that okay? Okay. Une lettre
d'un citoyen qui NE vous etes ici
[3:34:37] aujourd'hui? Mais qui est une lettre au service
de la graveyard. Donc je voulais. AU
[3:34:50] service de de Pointe-Claire, Madame. Je suis
pas la présence de ma grande preoccupation
[3:34:56] concernant la demande de derogation présentée
pour la propriété au saint. Germain,
[3:35:04] Macau et propriété ou Avenue Hillcrest. Tout
d'abord apres la demolition de la terrain
[3:35:13] vacant permet une nouvelle maison en respecting
parfaitement le reglement de la
[3:35:19] ville a un plan de maison de NE tenant pas
compte des obligations et reglement en
[3:35:26] vigueur pour demander des demander des derogations.
Tout azimuth particulierement a la
[3:35:37] demande d'augmentation de la superficie de
planchette. Auteur. UN desequilibrio par
[3:35:41] rapport aux deux residencies de Chakotay, en
particulier la maison Patrimonial et détail
[3:35:46] modest, qui NE pourra jamais et détruit. Une
erreur est une procédure d'exception, un
[3:35:53] privilege accordée par le Conseil municipal
et doit etre et surtout, Elle doit corriger
[3:36:03] une situation ou l'application strict de reglement
prejudice sérieux. Dans le contexte de la
[3:36:14] prize de urbanistes, IL est décrire ainsi
une derogation peut etre accordé seulement
si
[3:36:19] l'application de reglement et de l'auteur cause
unprejudiced aux demandeurs. Si Elle respect
[3:36:25] les objectifs de urbanistes la seule prejudice
demandeurs si en un de vouloir construire une
[3:36:33] belle et la superficie et de la pour respecter
les marchés minimal avant je souhaite la
[3:36:39] présence du Conseil municipal lors de la réunion
des réunion pourraient je vous acceptez
[3:36:48] Madame Distinguer. Donc sa c'était un demi
constituent du district des et pour ma part
en
[3:37:00] termes de fonction de conseiller, selon le
reglement sur les communautés en vigueur,
[3:37:06] nous devons considérer la durée. Du du reglement
de Pointe Claire, apres avoir la vie du
[3:37:17] comité consultatif du sujet le Conseil municipal
accordée une derogation au disposition de
[3:37:24] reglement de et des autres, celles qui sont
relatifs a l'histoire et a la densité
[3:37:29] occupation du sol pour un la strict conformité
soit impossible du l'application de
[3:37:37] reglement et pour un prejudice a la demande
de la derogation et la derogation NE peut pas
[3:37:46] les propriétaires des droits de propriété.
Des qui sont en avant nous, je suis un accord
[3:38:02] avec la derogation sur le Mark Gavin, qui respect
les deux batiments voisins. Je crois
[3:38:11] aussi pour les politiques et les. Moyens et
pour la delegation du. On a la rue et
[3:38:23] au garage. Je crois de besoin sécuritaire
pour voir. Je pense, c'est a un bon decision,
[3:38:37] monsieur. OU Marcel. Pour trouver un moi et
designer de quatre q g pour trouver un
[3:38:51] respect, le reglement de. De la ville de Pointe-Claire.
SE je vous vous comme. Citoyen de
[3:39:03] Pointe Claire un. ET si je avoir un bon rapport
avec vous, c'est vraiment pour quand vous
[3:39:12] je suis pour l'exploitation du projet, mais
contre le joue on superficie de superficie.
Donc
[3:39:21] pour cette raison, je dois contre merci. >>
Any other comments? We're
[3:39:26] good. Okay. Can I have a mover and a seconder,
please? >> Just 417.
[3:39:31] >> Okay, good. Okay. Grab a vote in favor,
please. Show your hands, please. You have to
[3:39:40] vote. Please. >> Who's against? >> Please put
your hands up in
[3:39:46] favor. Keep them up. Eric. >> Close in. Yep.
Okay. >> Missus. Councilor Gillon.
[3:39:56] >> Not in favor. Andrew. Bruno. Thank you.
>> C donc.
[3:40:09] >> Sorry. >> She's she's absent. So she cannot
vote.
[3:40:16] >> She can't vote. Okay, guys, this is not
a place for debate. I'm sorry. We've taken
the vote.
[3:40:23] >> 17.15 consider the Site Planning and Architecture
Integration program plans with
[3:40:26] respect to the property at 106 Balzac Lake
Shore Road. Avec un recommendation favorable.
The
[3:40:33] Planning Advisory Committee for New Construction.
>> Got a mover and seconder for
[3:40:38] 1715, please. >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district
three.
[3:40:52] >> Second by. >> Eric Storch. >> Discussion
with regards to
[3:40:56] this one that I oppose it as well, and I think
it's important in these instances to
[3:41:03] consider that there is a heritage character
to this neighborhood. The building next
[3:41:06] to it was built in 1760, and the project developers,
whether they intend to move into this
[3:41:17] new home or not. Are perfectly capable of building
a larger one that respects the existing
[3:41:25] zoning and not going down the route of creating
a Laval style McMansion, which is what is
[3:41:31] proposed here. And so that is why I would oppose
this as well. Thank you.
[3:41:36] >> Thank you. Okay. All in favor, please. Eric,
Mike Kelly, Madame La Mer, all against.
[3:41:49] Thank you, thank you. >> 1716 Kings Point size.
Kings point size set point size. Set
[3:42:02] point size. For. >> And. 17.17 to consider
site planning and architecture
[3:42:12] integration program plans with respect to the
property at three Cedar Avenue for exterior
[3:42:15] renovations. And both 1716 and 1717 have favorable
recommendations from the PSC
[3:42:20] Committee. >> Delegates 17, 16, 17, 17 Mover
and a second, please.
[3:42:29] >> Mike, >> Second by. >> Andrew Swidsinski.
[3:42:34] >> All in favor? >> Thank you. >> Thank you
that.
[3:42:44] >> Site. >> Mover and secondary for 17.18.
[3:42:50] >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen, district three. >>
Second by.
[3:42:54] >> Eric Storch, district seven. >> All in favor?
Thank you. >> 17.19 consider site planning
[3:43:04] and architectural Integration program plans
with respect to the property at 32 Killarney
[3:43:08] Gardens, it is for exterior renovations and
there is a favorable recommendation from
[3:43:11] the PSC Committee. >> Laurelwood. Déja approuvé
vous avec une recommendation
[3:43:23] favorable de Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
>> And 17.21. Consider Site
[3:43:27] Planning and architectural Integration program
plans with respect to the property at 127
[3:43:30] Maitland Avenue. It is for extension and a
renovation and also a favorable recommendation
[3:43:37] from the PSC mover. >> Second seven until 17.24
okay 170.12 consider
[3:43:48] architectural. Pour une nouvelle construction
vis a une recommendation favorable du
[3:43:55] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme 17.23. >> Consider
the Site Planning
[3:43:59] and Architecture Integration program plans
with respect to the property at 133 Queen
[3:44:03] Avenue for exterior renovations, and also a
favorable recommendation from the PSC.
[3:44:09] >> Said. Implementation and integration at
La Propriété AU. Canadian et Le Pigeon Club,
[3:44:19] cafe commerciale vous avez une recommandation
du comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
[3:44:26] >> Secondary from 17.19 through 1724. >> District
A.
[3:44:34] >> Second by. >> Ludovic Matthews, district
two.
[3:44:36] >> All in favor? Thank you. >> And 18.1 to
exercise the renewal option provided for in
[3:44:44] the contract entered into with Senior Glass
Canada, Inc. for the period of mid-October
2020.
[3:44:52] Six. Sorry, there's a typo to mid April 2027
in the amount of $376,336.17, taxes included
for
[3:45:02] the rental of a refrigerated outdoor rink and
outdoor skating oval. The second
[3:45:07] renewal year of the contract, the rental of
the Zamboni, is added to the contract for an
[3:45:11] amount of $20,546.03, taxes included as well.
>> Second, for 18.1, please.
[3:45:19] >> Kelly Thorstad Cullen District 12 district.
>> Mr. mayor, may I speak to
[3:45:24] this? I apologize, I didn't give my position
prior in caucus because I was not there,
[3:45:30] but I'll be voting against this for the same
reasons I felt over the last couple of years
[3:45:34] on this project. Thank you. >> Thank you. Also.
All in favor? And against. Thank you.
[3:45:46] Andrew two thank you. >> Closure. >> Closure
and seconder.
[3:45:55] >> District six. >> Second by. >> Mike Potvin,
district with.
[3:46:00] >> All in favor. Thank you. Thank you for being
patient everybody. It was a long night.
[3:46:07] Thank you.