1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:02,800 Thanks. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,799 Okay, it's 5 o'clock. I'm going to call 3 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:06,799 this meeting to order the village 4 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:12,790 council on July the 8th, 2025. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,310 I'm going to read the land acknowledge 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 order 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,910 on July 8th. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,599 We acknowledge that this land on which 9 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:29,279 we are gathered today is part of the 10 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:32,079 ancestral land of the Chipoa, Ottawa and 11 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,320 Padawataman peoples referred to 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 collectively as the Nishnabag. It is 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,239 through the connection of Munishna Bay 14 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:40,000 with the spirit of the land, water and 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,399 air that we recognize their unique 16 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:44,960 cultures, traditions and values. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,719 Together as treaty people, we have a 18 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:48,399 shared responsibility to act with 19 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,399 respect for the environment that 20 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:52,719 sustains all life, protecting the future 21 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,440 for those generations to come. Is there 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,680 anyone with peering interests? 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 None. And as always, if it comes up, if 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,479 you realize that later, just speak up. 25 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:06,720 And we're going down to move down to 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,159 planning meeting. Sorry, public meeting. 27 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:13,040 Um Jim just went to get a new document. 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,670 So just hold for a second. 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,920 So we're going to be looking at the 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,240 proposed zoning bylaw amendment Z12025. 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,270 Thank you. 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,360 So we are here tonight to discuss 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,159 application Z12025 34 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:38,320 for resoning and application 38T 35 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,840 25003 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 for a draft plan of subdivision. This 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,439 will be a combined meeting for both 38 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:48,159 applications. With us tonight is Jared 39 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:51,040 Preston. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Jared 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Bkins. No, 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Jordan. 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,119 I might have wrong. Sorry, 43 00:01:57,119 --> 00:02:01,040 Jared Preston and Jordan. 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,799 Okay, Jordan Folkins. 45 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:05,280 Sorry. 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,560 And Jared Preston, 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,000 right? Okay. 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,840 But you 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,160 um 50 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,120 done this before. 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Yeah, I know we did. Um, so 52 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,239 just Jordan 53 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:19,520 is a planner with BM Ross hired by Lamp 54 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,000 County and Jared Preston is a planner 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,400 for Lamp County currently assigned to 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,480 the belly pointer. 57 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,560 I will call on the planners to present 58 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,640 the applications as well as the 59 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,589 recommendations. 60 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,319 Would you um step into the bar, please? 61 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,160 Um, could I have a motion to invite the 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,360 planner for the bar? Also move seconder. 63 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:57,430 Thank you. All in favor? Okay. 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Yeah, sure. 65 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,560 I can 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,589 find 67 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:08,159 another chance. 68 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:09,200 Okay. 69 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,599 Are you sure? Oh, sure. Okay. You've 70 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:12,319 done it before. 71 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:14,720 All right. Thank you. So, um I am Doran 72 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Fulkins from Brian Rosson Associates. 73 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,200 I've been hired as a PL consultant for 74 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,360 the county of Lancing. He said I'm 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,519 joined here by Jared Preston and we'll 76 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:26,080 present the the two applications. We'll 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,840 go over our recommendations, some 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,720 important call or policy considerations 79 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,799 and uh next steps in this process. So, 80 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:34,560 if you go to go to the next slide, I'll 81 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,080 just introduce exactly what we'll speak 82 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,840 to you about. I will talk about the the 83 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,319 site, Jared will get into more details 84 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:43,920 of the subject lands as well as the 85 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,080 surrounding area. I'll give council a 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,239 bit of a history of exactly what was 87 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:50,239 approved several years ago, a little bit 88 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:51,680 more of the the background that's being 89 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,760 proposed here today. Uh both the 90 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,239 resoning and the subdivision. Jared will 91 00:03:56,239 --> 00:03:58,560 cover some important policies uh that we 92 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,840 look at when we're framing our 93 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,799 recommendation to council and uh I will 94 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:04,400 go over our recommendation and Jared 95 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,159 will tell you about next steps. So next 96 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:07,680 slide please. 97 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Just pause for a second just to people 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,840 want to be able to see maybe if we want 99 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,959 to change where you're sitting instead 100 00:04:14,959 --> 00:04:18,229 of 101 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:42,629 your chairs around. 102 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:44,400 All right. So, the subject lands uh 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 today that we're looking at is 1600 104 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,440 Venetian Boulevard. And I've got my 105 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,479 pointer right here. See? It's not 106 00:04:52,479 --> 00:04:57,590 showing up very well, Jared. 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,080 It's not showing up. Oh, but anyways, so 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,400 that um that's the area that's 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,440 highlighted there um in the light blue 110 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,680 color. Um it's around um like I said, 111 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,199 it's located on the southwest side of 112 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,560 Venetian Boulevard. It's adjacent to the 113 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Starlight Casino that you can see on the 114 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,560 east. It's got a frontage of about 320 m 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,680 and about 2.5 hectares around 6 acres 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,080 and it's currently a vacant property. 117 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,919 The site previously had a wood lot with 118 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:31,120 an area of only one hector in size which 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,570 has now currently been removed. 120 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:36,000 [Music] 121 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,670 So, 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,360 yep. So, I'm just going to go over this 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,759 surrounding area. So we got um lands 124 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:46,000 that are designated mixed use which 125 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,720 permit low destinity residential uses. 126 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,639 The lands are zone residential marina 127 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,680 1.5. This allows a range of commercial 128 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,039 uses, town homes and a maximum of six 129 00:05:57,039 --> 00:06:00,870 semi- detached dwellings. 130 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,639 Subject plans are adjacent. The parking 131 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,039 area for the gateway casino to the west, 132 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:08,160 bluewater bridge offices to the north, 133 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,919 and then the bridge marina buildings and 134 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:12,400 open storage areas to the south. 135 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,840 And there's also some apartment 136 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:17,199 dwellings to the east right next to the 137 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:20,560 Mariner Village. 138 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Thank you, Jared. Uh council may 139 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,400 remember several years ago this uh 140 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 property was subject to a couple of plan 141 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,120 applications. The first one was an 142 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,720 official plan amendment and that was to 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 allow low density residential uses on 144 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 this site. Now what with went with that 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,160 was a reszoning application to allow 146 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,000 town houses which were already allowed 147 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,680 but to also allow semi- detached 148 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,319 dwellings up to a maximum of six. Uh it 149 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:46,319 did not include singly attached bones at 150 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:49,280 all. So that resoning was uh specific to 151 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:51,440 the 2021 concept plan that was brought 152 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,759 to council back then. Uh plans have 153 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:55,759 changed a little bit once they dug a 154 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:57,039 little bit further into getting ready 155 00:06:57,039 --> 00:06:59,120 for the subdivision process. They found 156 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,039 that there are some pretty serious 157 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:03,199 constraints on the northwest and 158 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,759 southeast section of the property. Now, 159 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,360 I'll get into those constraints in a 160 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 little bit. Uh, but that has essentially 161 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 reduced this from what was approved in 162 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,080 the official plan of zoning bylaw is 36 163 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,560 units is was then down to 22 and today 164 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,319 if we go to the next slide, it is 165 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:23,120 actually brought down to 21 units. So 166 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,639 instead of the original townhouse 167 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,080 development, what's being proposed here 168 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,599 today as shown in orange are 169 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:29,599 semi-attached dwelling unit. So that's a 170 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:32,080 dwelling that has one shared wall uh and 171 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,560 no shared walls on the other side. The 172 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 yellow part parcel is a singly attached 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,199 dwelling and that's really a remnant 174 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:40,960 because of the restrictions. I'm sure it 175 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,479 would be a semi-touching, but there is 176 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,319 enough room once again to the 177 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,479 constraints of the site. Uh the purple 178 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:48,960 area is currently a water lot. Uh the 179 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,599 gray area is an an informal parking 180 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:54,000 area. It's a gravel parking area. And 181 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 what's brown is an area that's being 182 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240 proposed for uh it's an area where 183 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,240 there's a species at risk. So this is 184 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 going to be a habitat creation area. And 185 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,520 the green area finally is what's being 186 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,720 proposed as part. 187 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,879 Now I was talking about the constraints 188 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:14,560 of this site. Um actually that's the 189 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,599 next slide. This one will be the 190 00:08:15,599 --> 00:08:17,680 resoning. So, as I said, right now the 191 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,080 site is approved for a maximum of six 192 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,160 semi-attached dwellings. What the 193 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,520 applicant would like to do is have 194 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,759 semi-attached dwellings throughout the 195 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:28,080 site. Now, the framework for this was 196 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,599 approved by council several years ago. 197 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:31,680 Low density residential uses are allowed 198 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,440 on the property. And when we're 199 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,800 considering the zoning by amendment, 200 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 adding singly dash provide more housing 201 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,279 diversity uh and that sort of thing to 202 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:40,959 the neighborhood. So, we're supportive 203 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:44,000 of that. Also what's being proposed is a 204 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,839 reduction in side yard setbacks both 205 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:47,440 from the street and from the abodied 206 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 properties and a lot coverage of 45%. 207 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,519 Now the lot coverage of 45% is currently 208 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:55,200 what's allowed for town houses on the 209 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,440 site already. Uh so the semi- detached 210 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,880 and the singly attached regulations 211 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,120 would mirror exactly what's already in 212 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,200 the zoning by. Next slide please. 213 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,920 So for the constraints at the northwest 214 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,399 section of the site back when the 215 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:11,920 applicant was doing the previous 216 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,480 subdivision they had an archaeological 217 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,959 assessment up. So practically everywhere 218 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:18,560 in the village has potential for 219 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:20,480 archaeological resources as I'm sure 220 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,800 you're aware. Uh they end up finding 221 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 some some artifacts. Uh so there's a 222 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,800 process for that. What can be done is 223 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,560 you do an assessment on a siteby-sight 224 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:30,720 basis and you go and you dig and you 225 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,959 extract all of those is one option. The 226 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:34,240 other option is to leave them in the 227 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,000 ground and and don't touch them. So 228 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,399 they've opted for the ladder and that's 229 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,160 why it's shown as an archaeological 230 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,399 protected area. Now part of that would 231 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:44,000 be what's being proposed on the as 232 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 parkland. Um so the village would be the 233 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 future owner of this property. But 234 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,399 looking outside the red area you can see 235 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:52,720 that there is sizable area for if there 236 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,320 is maybe a future park land some swings 237 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,279 sit down area that sort of. Now the 238 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,920 green area uh they found again common in 239 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,000 this well rare but common it seems in 240 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 this area is Butler's garden state um it 241 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,800 is habitat for them they've been through 242 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,680 a extensive uh process with the ministry 243 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,519 they have received the the required 244 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,079 permits um but as part of that that 245 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:18,000 permit requirement is to one do a 246 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,600 salvage of the area they have to have 247 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,600 experts out on the site maybe you've 248 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,519 seen them uh and they look for snakes 249 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,040 they they gather them up and they put 250 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,440 them in a safe area. Another thing 251 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,360 that's in the permit is if you go to the 252 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,240 next slide please. So the salvage area 253 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,160 is for the whole site shown in blue on 254 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,640 the on the screen. The purple is what 255 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 was called a habitat enhancement area. 256 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,600 Uh so this would be to add different 257 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,839 things to add to the uh public gar 258 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:46,000 habitat. Could be boxes. It could be 259 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 there's a number of of things. And green 260 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,640 is a habitat creation area. So that's 261 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,959 where the there is an existing habitat 262 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:57,440 but it would and next slide I believe 263 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 I'm still yeah so as I said there's a 264 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:01,279 lot of constraints with that comes a lot 265 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,440 of special life studies um this 266 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,360 subdivision has more studies required 267 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,959 than most like I said there's 268 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:09,519 archaeological and consideration uh 269 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,440 there are a lot of trees on the property 270 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,079 uh so there's arburous reports there 271 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:16,560 were noise studies because highway 4 is 272 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:18,320 not too far and there's recommendations 273 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,279 of that uh There are also like I said a 274 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:23,279 permit from the endangered species act 275 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:26,640 and a a traffic study. Now the traffic 276 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 study and the servicing capacity study 277 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,040 were actually submitted as previous 278 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,640 applications. So they are a little bit 279 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,040 old. Um correspondence that we got from 280 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,800 the county of lampton. They do require 281 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,279 an update to that study. Now like I said 282 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,519 before it was 36 units. We're going to 283 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:43,600 21. They didn't have any concerns 284 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,519 necessarily. There are no 285 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:47,600 recommendations for additional lanes of 286 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,519 traffic or danger lanes or anything like 287 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:51,120 that. But what would be required as a 288 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,800 condition of approval. What we're 289 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,399 recommending at least is a supplemental 290 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,200 memo. So they would look at the traffic 291 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,640 for the next however many years based on 292 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,600 on what's taking place. So I'll let 293 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,519 Jared talk about the policies in the 294 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,279 next slides and some of those 295 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,600 considerations. So the applications in 296 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,680 front of us today are for a reszoning to 297 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:16,639 allow as Jordan mentioned to allow up to 298 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:18,560 20 semi- detached dwellings and then 299 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:21,120 allow singles uh detach one single 300 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,680 detached dwelling unit as of right. Um 301 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,680 the reasonzoning needs to be consistent 302 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,639 with the provincial polic statement, the 303 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:30,480 County of Lamp official plan and our 304 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,120 village official plan and zoning bylaws. 305 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,040 And there's also a requirement for a 306 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,160 draft plan of subdivision um which the 307 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,000 county of Lamp is the approval authority 308 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,720 for that. Council can make a 309 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,600 recommendation um to the county of Lamp 310 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,920 to approve with conditions or refuse the 311 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,240 subdivision application if they want to. 312 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,880 today. Um if the if the resoning in the 313 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,120 plan subdivision is approved today, the 314 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,480 owner would need to satisfy all 315 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,880 conditions of the pool within 3 years, 316 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:08,790 although an extension can be utilized. 317 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,680 So this next slide. So for the 318 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,839 provincial policy statement, this 319 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:16,240 supports development in our settlement 320 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,480 areas, which is the area where this 321 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,720 development is located, which is 322 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,079 developments that provide a range of 323 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:24,240 housing options and density that can be 324 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,519 supported um by existing infrastructure. 325 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:31,600 The site is nearby highway 402 326 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 and there are land use compacity 327 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,680 policies that apply. The applicant did 328 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,240 complete a noise study with 329 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,600 recommendations of how the proposal 330 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,120 would meet noise deadlines from the 331 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,760 province. There were natural heritage 332 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,200 policies that would have that were 333 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,320 required that for habitat of species at 334 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,800 risk to be conserved as well as the for 335 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,920 the development to conserve 336 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,920 archaeological resources and be directed 337 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,240 away from natural hazards. 338 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,519 There was an arborist report and um tree 339 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:00,800 preservation plans that have been 340 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,560 submitted but the trees have been 341 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,639 removed and the studies did not include 342 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,720 a replacement or restoration plan for 343 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,230 those trees. 344 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,279 Um the archaeological area would not be 345 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,760 developed at all but a storm sewer would 346 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 be located in the area and a future w 347 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,160 road widening may be located in the 348 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,480 area. Um and that came from our county 349 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,560 lamp public work comments. 350 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Archaeologists have been contacted and 351 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,079 is reviewing the requirements, including 352 00:14:28,079 --> 00:14:30,560 a further study is required for that 353 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,440 road winding. The owner has a permit 354 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,920 under the endangered species act for 355 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,320 development on this site, which includes 356 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,079 a habitat creation area and an 357 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:43,199 enhancement area. Natural hazards also 358 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:45,199 have been identified and studies have 359 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:46,639 been approved by the St. Clair Region 360 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:48,959 Conservation Authority. 361 00:14:48,959 --> 00:14:50,560 uh staff found that this is consistent 362 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,959 with the provincial planning statement 363 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:55,120 provide conditions include a tree 364 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,279 replacement study and includes all 365 00:14:57,279 --> 00:14:58,720 recommendation and requirements in the 366 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,720 archaeological assessment and the 367 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,600 endangered species permit. So next I'm 368 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,120 going to go over the plan considerations 369 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,320 for the county official plan. So this is 370 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,040 located in what we call in the county 371 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,959 growth map the urban center and 372 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:15,360 settlement area. 373 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,079 This permits a wide range of uses as 374 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:21,040 well for residential and it permits a 375 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,959 wide range of mix of lot sizes and 376 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:25,360 dwelling types are encouraged. 377 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,279 There are similar policies that this 378 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:29,680 official plan contains as the PBS 379 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,360 regarding cultural heritage and natural 380 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 heritage as well as natural hazards. 381 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,600 Uh these policies um encourage a built 382 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,839 form that is welld designigned and 383 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:42,480 encourages a sense of place and provides 384 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,399 for public spaces that are high quality, 385 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:47,199 safe, accessible, and attractive and 386 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:49,920 vibrant. Um as we know, Venetian 387 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Boulevard is a tourist area and an 388 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,720 arterial road. So we feel that is 389 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,000 important to have a well-designed 390 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,920 frontage that includes landscaping and 391 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 adequate footing fencing. The county 392 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,639 plan has policies for conditions of 393 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,160 approval, including linkages and 394 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,399 walkways and appropriate urban design 395 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:09,920 standards. And both of us planners 396 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,680 recommend that a walkway be provided at 397 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,759 the west end of the site to connect to 398 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:19,189 the Phoenician Boulevard sidewalk. 399 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:20,720 So, I'm going to go into the plan 400 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,040 considerations for the um village of 401 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Point Ever official plan. So, the 402 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,320 designation um for this site is mixed 403 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,519 use. It permits low density residential 404 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:36,560 uses and no amendment is required. 405 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,800 This um the village op does require 406 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,720 sidewalks to be provided along one side 407 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120 of the road. Other culde-sacs in the 408 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,160 village have generally contain sidewalks 409 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,880 that are on one side of the road. The 410 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,120 village also in terms of parkland will 411 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,720 generally not accept parkland that is 412 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 not suitable for development. 413 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,079 park contains an agreed archaeological 414 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:00,079 protected area that should not be 415 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:04,720 included in the 5% parkland dedication. 416 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Uh tree preservation plans in any 417 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,360 removal shall be replaced of a similar 418 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,839 species. 419 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:15,520 Urban design policies um in the official 420 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,480 plan promote attractive streetscaping 421 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,640 and require landscape plan for Venetian 422 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,039 boulevard frontage. 423 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:24,880 The policies do not permit landlock 424 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,039 parcels and do not support the creation 425 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:30,480 of blocks behind lots 7 to 14. 426 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 It is the opinion of plans that the 427 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,600 development conforms to the village 428 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,200 official plan and subject to the 429 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,240 recommended conditions. 430 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 So um I'm going to go over the 431 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,600 circulation uh correspondence. So the 432 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,760 application was circulated to agencies 433 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,200 departments as well as the general 434 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,720 public. 435 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Um planning staff um received responses 436 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,760 from the St. Clair Region Conservation 437 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,120 Authority, Lamp Public Works, Ministry 438 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,360 of Transportation, Point Edward Fire and 439 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,799 Rescue and Hydro 1. The St. Clair Region 440 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:04,400 Conservation Authority and Lamp Public 441 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Works had recommend recommended 442 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,080 conditions of approval and MTO Fire and 443 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,360 Hydro 1 did not have any concerns. 444 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,480 Just gonna Jordan for the next slides. 445 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,640 Thank you, D. 446 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,039 So considering all these policies um 447 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:25,440 reviewing the site um we do feel uh that 448 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,440 we can support the resoning as 449 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,919 submitted. Uh like we said the the 450 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:31,679 official plan policies do allow for 451 00:18:31,679 --> 00:18:33,840 this. We feel that it is uh consistent 452 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,520 with provincial planning state in terms 453 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,880 of adding a mixture of land uses. Um the 454 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,720 reduced setbacks would also allow for a 455 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,120 more compact development maybe 20 lots 456 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:44,240 if you didn't have some of these 457 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,520 variances. Uh we also support the draft 458 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,080 plan and subdivision. However, we do 459 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,760 have some modifications. If you go to 460 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,960 the next slide, I'll just talk about 461 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,080 what that is. The first one is to merge 462 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,000 the storm ement. Um if you remember back 463 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,600 to the original plan, there is a storm 464 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,760 ement right beside the park. Really 465 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,440 makes sense to merge those two together. 466 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,360 Uh since they would both be used by the 467 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,080 village point ever in the future. Uh, 468 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,320 with that, we also recommend and 469 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,679 actually if you can go back to the 470 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:15,600 screen that has the plan, please 471 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,200 go back just so as council can see 472 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,720 exactly what the second uh proposed 473 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,480 amendment is. Go back a couple more 474 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,960 slides, please. 475 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,039 And one more right there. So, here is 476 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:28,799 the drop subdivision that was submitted. 477 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:30,080 As you can see, there's an area in 478 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,760 brown, uh, purple, and gray. As I said, 479 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,640 this area is for habitat creation and 480 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,679 enhancement. Um, so Jared touched on the 481 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:42,000 landlocked issue and I share those 482 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,600 concerns as well. Now, the applicants 483 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080 agent did provide a legal opinion on how 484 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,080 they could be merged. Uh, we've 485 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,360 discussed that with the senior plan 486 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,480 official. We have a difference of 487 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,640 opinion, but really our primary concern 488 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,559 with that is it's supposed to be a 489 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:58,559 habitat area or other gar. And when you 490 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:00,320 merge that together with the residential 491 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,799 lot, people cut their grass. they they 492 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:04,799 typically don't like snakes. So when you 493 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,640 have this, it's no longer a habitat for 494 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,799 the bothers snakes. So that was really 495 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,360 our concern. Now just getting more 496 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,039 details into the permit, that area does 497 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:15,280 have to be monitored for 5 years. Um if 498 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,960 later on down the road they do want to 499 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880 merge that with the residential lots. 500 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,640 There is a process for that. You could 501 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,039 deem a lot the lots not to be a plan of 502 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:24,960 subdivision and and evaluate a consent 503 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,120 application for each one. So that that 504 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,679 ability is there for in the future. Um, 505 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:31,760 personally we cannot support having 506 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,679 those as separate blocks or added to the 507 00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:36,159 residential blocks. And if you go back 508 00:20:36,159 --> 00:20:38,080 to the next slides, I can briefly 509 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,600 discuss some of the recommended 510 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,120 conditions of approval. And Jared has 511 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,760 touched on a lot of these already. If 512 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,480 you go back two slides, yep, perfect. 513 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,559 Um, just there's some typical conditions 514 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:49,919 that are for a subdivision. So, the 515 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:52,000 owner will be required to enter into a 516 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,919 subdivision agreement with the village. 517 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:56,159 That's where you uh quite controlled on 518 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:57,840 exactly the servicing, parkland 519 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,159 dedication and a lot of other uh details 520 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:02,960 of the proposal. Um we're also 521 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,400 recommending that there be parkland 522 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320 dedication. As I said, there will be 523 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,799 parkland as part of this development. 524 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:10,320 Now, it really comes down to a 525 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,640 calculation how much of that is 5% that 526 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,640 is outside of that archaeological area 527 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,760 and the applicants engineer or surveyor 528 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,200 will be able to give that that 529 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,520 information later on. 530 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,440 Also, a tree replacement plan. There 531 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,960 were arborous reports submitted with 532 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,679 this application as some you can see if 533 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:29,840 you visited the site there aren't very 534 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,520 many trees on there that there were 535 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,080 about five six years ago. Uh so as part 536 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760 of that and Jared touched on this in the 537 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,360 policies there are policies in the 538 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:40,080 village key that encourage uh trees to 539 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,480 be preserved. If they're not then a 540 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,320 replacement of a similar species will be 541 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,240 required. Now we have had follow-up 542 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,919 conversations with the St. region 543 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:50,640 conservation authority and to establish 544 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,480 a woodland they estimate it's about 545 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,520 $5,000 per acre. So, uh for anything 546 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,200 that can't be provided on site, we do 547 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,120 recommend that that be provided as a 548 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:00,960 condition. 549 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Aside from that, other standard 550 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,400 conditions of approval are taken right 551 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480 from the applicant specialized reports. 552 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Each one of them did have 553 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,760 recommendations and we recommend that 554 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,679 they be included in the the conditions 555 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:14,480 of approval as well as comments back 556 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,080 that were received from the St. Region 557 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,520 Conservation Authority and the County of 558 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,679 Lamp. As Jared said, that involves a 559 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:22,400 road winding um near Gateway Casino. 560 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,080 There's be a future roundabout 561 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,760 potentially. So, it's have enough land 562 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,720 to to accommodate all of that. And uh 563 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,400 the conservation authority has reviewed 564 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720 all the hazard studies and they have 565 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,039 some recommendations in there such as 566 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,440 minimum elevation of openings of the 567 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,310 buildings and similar flood proof. 568 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,600 and Jared will finish some. 569 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Yep. So, um the council is the approval 570 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,559 authority tonight for the resoning and 571 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:52,640 can approve the resoning application 572 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,440 tonight and the county land um as I 573 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,480 mentioned before is the approval 574 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,600 authority for the draft plan 575 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,039 subdivision. Um whenever village council 576 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:02,240 does have the ability to make 577 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,720 recommendation the county to approve or 578 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,360 refuse the application or provide 579 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,960 recommendations for conditions of 580 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600 approval as well 581 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,440 and thank you for your time and we're h 582 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,120 both Jordan and myself are happy to 583 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,720 answer any questions council or the 584 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,240 public may have. 585 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Yes. Hi. May I ask a question? 586 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,120 So so just first of all it's council 587 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,159 first. 588 00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:25,919 So then we'll open it up. 589 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:27,520 Are there any questions of council? 590 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Yeah. Let everybody change their chairs 591 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,640 around while we wait. 592 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,120 Pardon? 593 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,720 Want everybody turn their chairs around? 594 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,360 Oh, sure. Just 595 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,880 unless one. 596 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Okay. Okay. 597 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,600 Okay. So, um I just have two quick 598 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,320 questions. The original plan had a 599 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320 access at the back for fire department 600 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,120 in case the only access was blocked. Is 601 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,200 that that's been removed? Has it? 602 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,039 Uh through the chair to the the council. 603 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:54,720 There is one access off of Venation 604 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,880 Boulevard. Um I don't remember a second 605 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320 access at all. Usually for lots that are 606 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960 21 lots. Um I'm not aware of any 607 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,200 policies in the village of Bishop plant. 608 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,799 Usually a second access is more when you 609 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,520 have 50 60 70 lots. Usually something 610 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,400 21. You wouldn't require that second but 611 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,880 um 612 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,360 okay 613 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,679 with that said and we can speak to the 614 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:17,440 applicant after and they are here to 615 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,320 present. 616 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,000 Uh but there would be a feature walkway 617 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,200 potentially. There's area between the 618 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520 archeological resource and the singly 619 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,400 attached dwelling. 620 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Okay. There should be access there for 621 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320 like an emergency like a gated emergency 622 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,360 access potentially. 623 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,039 And I think it may have just been talked 624 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:32,799 about at the time and access from the 625 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,600 casino's parking lot, but it maybe never 626 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,400 got to the plane. Okay. And then in the 627 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,039 map where the um there's the species at 628 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,679 risk protected area in people's 629 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:45,279 backyards 630 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,080 um that the brown along the bottom. How 631 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,919 will that be divided from someone's 632 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:52,000 backyard? Will there be a fence or is it 633 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,640 just please don't go there? 634 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,600 uh through the chair. The 635 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,799 recommendations are in the endangered 636 00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,640 species act permit that was received, 637 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,840 but generally speaking, yes, there would 638 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,960 be fencing requirements. 639 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,360 Okay. I get on their side of that. 640 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,360 That's my understanding. Um I don't have 641 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,120 the permit in front of me. I know 642 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:08,559 there's temporary measures for for 643 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:09,039 fencing, 644 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:09,600 right? 645 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,360 Long-term measures. I I'd have to review 646 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,640 the permit together. 647 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,279 Okay. Thank you. 648 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,870 Anybody else? 649 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,120 Through the mayor. Um 650 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,360 to 651 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,360 was is there any consideration for a 652 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,080 crosswalk from this 653 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240 uh side of the nation across? We have 654 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,400 one similar down further down with their 655 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,919 you know provision to put in the plan 656 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:38,400 that we put a crosswalk in there for the 657 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520 residents because they either have to go 658 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520 one way or the other to legally or to 659 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,320 safely cross the street. Uh we'll see 660 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,720 you on that chair through the chair to 661 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,559 your account for your your question. Uh 662 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,159 great point. There was a traffic impact 663 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,240 study that was submitted. It's my 664 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,679 understanding that's something that they 665 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,120 looked at. As you said, there is a 666 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,880 pedestrian crossing to the east a little 667 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960 bit. It is a bit of a way to walk, but 668 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,720 they they run their numbers and they do 669 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,799 their analysis. From what I understand 670 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,640 from that report, it's not warranted 671 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,400 here. And maybe that's something when 672 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,080 there's improvements to the intersection 673 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,440 just to the west of the site. Maybe 674 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,039 there's a more pedestrian friendly 675 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,039 opportunity there where you could just 676 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,120 have more like shorter uh trips for 677 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,279 pedestrians. Could be an option, but as 678 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:20,960 I said, that report will have to be 679 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,279 updated um as part of the scope of that. 680 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,279 We can get them to look at that again if 681 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:26,559 council chooses. 682 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,520 Thank you. 683 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 So I I have a question about the trees. 684 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,039 So the trees don't have to be like or 685 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,720 like we can look at or someone looks at 686 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,279 what it would be the best variety 687 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,919 to be built because some of it was scrub 688 00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:45,840 certainly through the chair yourself. 689 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000 There were our risk reports already. We 690 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,600 can look at that a bit more detail and 691 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,400 what we're not talking about is one tree 692 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,720 advice for everyone. It's more of an 693 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,360 area. Um so it could be a site loss 694 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,000 maturity and it would be pin towards 695 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 exactly what's required and the 696 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,440 condition would be to the satisfaction 697 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,679 of the county of lamp as well as to the 698 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:07,760 the town or the village when you have 699 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,200 that submission. 700 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,630 Thank you. 701 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,679 Um no more questions off council. Has 702 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:17,440 there been any new correspondence 703 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,120 submitted after the submission of this 704 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,720 report? 705 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,080 I haven't received any. 706 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,559 Okay. Would the applicant or 707 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,240 representative wish to speak to the 708 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240 application? 709 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:49,590 Yes, your motion. 710 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,799 My name is Eda from George Murray 711 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,919 Shipley Bell. I am 712 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:59,760 assisting on the development. Um I won't 713 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,240 uh I won't keep you too long. I hope um 714 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,880 the long road we get here. 715 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080 um couple of the points that uh Jordan 716 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,279 brought up with and the one of the 717 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,360 counselors brought up about these 718 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,600 blocks. I really just want to focus on 719 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 those. The balance of the report is not 720 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,200 an issue. Um 721 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,880 it's the if we look at the blocks uh 722 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,399 first I'll start um in the corner where 723 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:34,799 the park land is is proposed. um there's 724 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,000 really no issue there um in terms of 725 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 merging the blocks uh together because 726 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,679 if they're both conveyed to the village 727 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:45,520 then it really it doesn't matter the 728 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480 common ownership is fine. 729 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,840 The next section that deals with the 730 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,600 blocks at the back of the residential 731 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440 lots 732 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,279 I think you hit it right on the head in 733 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,799 terms of the practical issues there. Um 734 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:05,200 it's this situation not exactly the same 735 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,919 but the situation with blocks 736 00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:12,159 um that are uh joining to a residential 737 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:15,440 lot does exist in other subdivisions in 738 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,200 Sarnia and it was handled 739 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200 essentially the way we're proposing is 740 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,520 that these blocks didn't get conveyed 741 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,120 with the lot together. The concern that 742 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,120 uh I think the planners are raising is 743 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440 that they don't want these things 744 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,399 conveyed to somebody and then the 745 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:39,200 landlord but not sure who would ever buy 746 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,840 them. But um 747 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,559 it can be it that can be regulated by um 748 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,559 the subdivision agreement can state 749 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,840 specifically that these have to go with 750 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,120 the adjoining lot in any conveyance. Um 751 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320 legally we can uh we can create one pin 752 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,960 which is a property identifier number 753 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,960 under the uh land title system and so 754 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,880 when anybody searches the title they see 755 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,880 that these two are together. um the 756 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,880 issue of um species at risk. It 757 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,600 um maybe I'll just jump to the to the 758 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,279 big piece for a second and then I'll 759 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,440 come back. 760 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,760 At this point, 761 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,880 the the applicant's not certain as to 762 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,480 how that's going to be dealt with um in 763 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,480 terms of future ownership. 764 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,679 We believe that likely the best scenario 765 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:45,360 is that that piece will be uh owned by 766 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,279 all the uh people in the subdivision and 767 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:54,080 so they will have a 121 interest in that 768 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600 and that way they can control it. They 769 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:03,360 get um access to it at all times. Um 770 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,880 but now if you if you include those 771 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,120 blocks at the bottom in that then it 772 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,640 becomes somewhat difficult because if 773 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,399 you have a fence there and then there's 774 00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:17,840 another fence that um what's I can't 775 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 remember what the depth of the block is 776 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,120 10T so it's going to be a strange 777 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,799 situation where you got fence and then 778 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,880 another fence potentially and a 10-ft 779 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,960 strip 780 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,559 I see that as being something that 781 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,399 they're not maintained. It would likely 782 00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:35,200 be 783 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,519 that place where probably garbage will 784 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,240 end up. Um 785 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720 I believe again that you can put in the 786 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640 agreement and we can do it through 787 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,720 restrictions uh on a title that the 788 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,000 owners have to maintain it and and and 789 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,840 you can put warnings in there that they 790 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,279 have to maintain it, they can't build on 791 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,559 it, they can't do anything to it. Um, 792 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,679 and that, uh, we believe is a better way 793 00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:04,559 to, uh, regulate the use of the property 794 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:08,720 as opposed to having this one strip that 795 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,799 just runs along the back with two 796 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,120 fences. We 797 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,799 don't think that's going to be very 798 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,039 attractive. In my experience, in the 799 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,200 city, whenever you have laneways or or 800 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,320 anything of that sort, people just 801 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,840 eventually treat it like their own 802 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,200 anyway, and the fences come down and 803 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,679 Nobody's going to monitor it. There is 804 00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:32,240 monitoring for I believe it's about five 805 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,799 years, but after that there won't be 806 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,039 anything nowhere. So, we just believe 807 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,399 it's more practical and and there's not 808 00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:42,480 a whole lot to gain by keeping these 809 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,279 separate. 810 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:50,159 In terms of the of the water lot, 811 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:53,440 um again, at this point, we would like 812 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,360 to keep that separate. Um, 813 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,519 we believe the village can regulate that 814 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,120 again through a subdivision agreement. 815 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360 It it may turn out that that's going to 816 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,640 be dealt with exactly like the peace 817 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,039 beside it, the species at risk area. Um, 818 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,159 and it will be for use by the by the 819 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:18,080 owner. So, if there's owners that want 820 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320 the boat well bells there, then then 821 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,320 they can do it. Um 822 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,039 so at this point I guess what what we're 823 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,919 asking is that 824 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:33,039 those conditions for merging all these 825 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:37,840 blocks be um not included and can be 826 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,320 handled through the um subdivision 827 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,159 agreement process. And again, it may 828 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:46,640 turn out that eventually these will be 829 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,039 uh can be merged together um if u if if 830 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,760 it's going to be common ownership by all 831 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,919 the owners in the subdivision. So that's 832 00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:57,840 really I think the only difference. We 833 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,080 would like to keep the blocks separate, 834 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,279 not for purposes of transferring them to 835 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,679 somebody because that's that's like not 836 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:08,079 going to happen, but really just so that 837 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,399 we can then decide which way we're going 838 00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:13,750 to go with it. 839 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200 I think those were really just the 840 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,679 blocks I think were the only points of a 841 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,510 difference. 842 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,720 I'm happy to answer your question. 843 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:25,599 Thank you, Mayor Grimes. 844 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,040 Thank you, Mayor Hand through you. Um, 845 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,240 so not all neighbors get along. 846 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:36,159 So you're saying these 21 homeowners 847 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,639 would decide where they're putting boat 848 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,800 wells and sharing the property. Will 849 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,480 there be a condo board to oversee this 850 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,359 or will they just all get along and 851 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:46,960 decide who gets to tie their boat up 852 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040 where? How will that be managed? 853 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Um, this is not a condo, 854 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,440 right? 855 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,960 So, it's that that process isn't there, 856 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,079 but essentially it will work in in the 857 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:01,520 same way. What we've been discussing is 858 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,040 setting up um an association which can 859 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200 be an incorporated 860 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,240 uh entity that's not a forprofit 861 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,720 corporation. It's just it's it's it's 862 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,920 run like um it's it's a nonprofit 863 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,440 organization, 864 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,560 but each landowner is a member of that 865 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,560 association. And so that association has 866 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,520 a board, has officers, and they're the 867 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,800 ones that get together and they'll make 868 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,119 the decisions. But whether they get 869 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:39,599 along um or not, um there'll have to be 870 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,760 decisions made presumably as long as 871 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,760 there's a majority that can make the 872 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,440 decision. 873 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Just to follow up with my three, like I 874 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,119 I'm not sure 21 boat slips and boats 875 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,280 would even fit in the water lot. So, how 876 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,599 like who who gets how would they decide 877 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,839 who gets turned down? Who gets it? 878 00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:00,160 Sorry, I I didn't mean to make the 879 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,839 implication that there would be 21 880 00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:04,560 there. There may there may never be any 881 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960 there, right? I mean, it may be just uh 882 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,880 one of the discussions we had was it 883 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,480 would just be um a walkway and like a 884 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,079 boardwalk there and people can just go 885 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:17,680 there and sit there, put chairs or 886 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,320 whatever, whatever. Um 887 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 yeah, the boat wells 888 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,280 If they again if they want to decide to 889 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,280 do it, it would be the association that 890 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,240 would be uh would be controlling them 891 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,640 and then whatever whatever rules they 892 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,240 want to set down as far as how they 893 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,320 lease them or I don't it would not be a 894 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,839 case of people owning 895 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,760 right not. 896 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,079 Yeah. And then follow up on the species 897 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:48,400 at risk area again owned by 21 people. 898 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Um, will they be required to pay for the 899 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400 landscaping or the I know it's not going 900 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,079 to be cut like a a grass field, but that 901 00:36:58,079 --> 00:36:59,680 part of it will be that association that 902 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,160 will cover the any work on that. 903 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,520 Yeah. What what I've seen in in other in 904 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,760 other developments um in not in Sarna 905 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,000 but mostly in other areas is that um the 906 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,720 land owners will basically like a 907 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,400 condominium. They're going to pay 908 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,240 whether it's 100 bucks a year or 200 909 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,320 bucks a year and that's going to cover 910 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,240 the maintenance of this. 911 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,200 Um, 912 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,839 presumably this is an asset to them, not 913 00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:34,160 not a liability because there really 914 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,920 isn't going to be much to do with it. 915 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,520 There there may be some cutting grass 916 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,119 there's no grass to be grass. This is a 917 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,359 special grass and I'm responsible for 918 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:48,320 the first five years. Okay. Um there's 919 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640 pretty special grass and it grows to a 920 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,240 certain height. There's no grass on it. 921 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,880 There should be very little 922 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,440 maintenance at all unless they want to 923 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,359 unless something happens to the ball 924 00:37:59,359 --> 00:37:59,839 only. 925 00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:03,280 Right. Okay. Thank you. 926 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960 So it's interesting when you talked 927 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359 about the two fences. I actually lived 928 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:10,880 in a house in Buford where that 929 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920 situation existed. I was a lot a long 930 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,880 time ago. I was young, but we had about 931 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680 5 ft between the fence and the neighbor 932 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,720 fence and it was stuff got thrown in 933 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,400 there and there was a lot of scrub trees 934 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,119 like zumac and whatnot and eventually we 935 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,040 came to I don't remember all that 936 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,040 happened. It came to an agreement where 937 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,400 one fence was torn down and an agreement 938 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400 was made over that piece of land but it 939 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880 can never make any sense to have a piece 940 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,079 blocked off like that to him good use. 941 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:42,320 Well, 942 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,630 that's how we feel. Yeah. 943 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:55,430 Any other questions? 944 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,839 Okay. So, are there any questions or 945 00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:00,000 comments from the public? I'm in favor 946 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000 or opposed to the application. Anyone 947 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,920 that chooses to speak will need to 948 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000 identify themselves and provide their 949 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,599 address, please. 950 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,119 Is it okay, your honor? I'm sorry I 951 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,079 didn't pull the proper 952 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:10,800 That's okay. 953 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,880 It's okay. Yeah. You got rained in. 954 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,240 My name is Glenn Carson. 955 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:14,720 Y 956 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,599 I'm the president of LCC 53 957 00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,839 and I'm al also representing So that's 958 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,400 1550 Venetian Boulevard, the property 959 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,480 adjacent to this this this proposed and 960 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,400 we fully agree with what's happening 961 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,119 here. And then I also I'm representative 962 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,400 of 1540 which is the new building there. 963 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,560 and Nick uh Nick's allowed me to be a 964 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,320 representative from 965 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,599 when 1540 was built it was given a 966 00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:45,359 variation so it had less parking than 967 00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:48,880 the province required okay and there's a 968 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,560 I think if you guys look back you'll 969 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,480 find a variation was giving in their 970 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,920 short 15 parking spots okay or something 971 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,520 like that I don't know if you guys are 972 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,119 aware of that or 973 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,880 okay so uh we've been uh looking for a 974 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,280 way to solve that problem because we 975 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,200 lost a lot of our parking spots when 976 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,000 they uh took they appropriated their 977 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,960 property and we were looking at section 978 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,640 living up here is block 25 which is 979 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880 already a parking uh a gravel parking 980 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,320 area. So, uh, we had approached Al on 981 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,880 the possibility of in the future if it's 982 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,560 all agreed and the subdivision was 983 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880 passed and things of acquiring that 984 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,599 property between our our two properties 985 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:35,280 and getting increased parking slots as 986 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,920 it is at a parking area right now. And 987 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,160 that would fulfill the provincial 988 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400 requirements, the variance, go beyond 989 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,760 the variance for 1540 and allow us some 990 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,520 uh parking for 1550 that we've lost. So, 991 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400 we were hoping as it is now still an 992 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000 existing parking lot and there's very 993 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,319 little movement of animals and things on 994 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:01,599 that area that this could be approved as 995 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,920 it stands. Uh, if we go back to section 996 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,640 16 or 25 there, we go back to that one. 997 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,560 Sure. and uh we have it could be a u a 998 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,480 parking area that would bring 1540 up to 999 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,880 the the provincial standards and allow 1000 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,440 us for the parking area we lost at 1550. 1001 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,079 So that's what I was here to talk about 1002 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,680 today. I I don't know if uh you know 1003 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,520 parking is always a challenge. The three 1004 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,640 Ps are parking, pets, and plants. So 1005 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,319 that's one of the big the big P is the 1006 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,560 parking. So, I wanted to bring that 1007 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040 before you and and ask you uh I don't 1008 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,119 want to interfere with El's project 1009 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,560 here, but he's been kind enough to talk 1010 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,280 to us about this. And uh I wondered if 1011 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,440 you'd consider that because we're going 1012 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,800 to have a very big parking problem 1013 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,160 there. You can't park on the street 1014 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,560 there. So, there's no visitor parking to 1015 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,319 speak of at all. Not even enough to meet 1016 00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:57,760 the provincial requirements at this 1017 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,870 moment. 1018 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,910 Would 1019 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,680 you like to speak? I'm Mary on Hillress 1020 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,680 on the owner of the property. I have 1021 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,359 been had discussions with Glenn and he's 1022 00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:14,240 been very good and we he is on the right 1023 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,760 lines there. Um but I think I've been 1024 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,319 fair to Glenn and he realizes we have to 1025 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:21,599 walk before we can run. 1026 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:22,160 Yeah. 1027 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,079 There's no agreement actually in place 1028 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:28,079 for what they'd like to do. Uh firstly 1029 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,480 after five years I just want to get over 1030 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,359 I just want to move on this 1031 00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:35,040 and then we probably would have to come 1032 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,920 back. There's some legal stuff but I 1033 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,040 think I think we've been pretty frank 1034 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,720 and consistent. Um as I said we we have 1035 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,000 to get this development approved first 1036 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000 and then and we have to see how this uh 1037 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,760 whole area is going to work including a 1038 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,079 water lot. That's why, you know, we 1039 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,599 can't really deal with that parking 1040 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,000 until we have that resolved as to how 1041 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,800 it's going to work. 1042 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,760 We don't know what we're going to do 1043 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920 with that block. It's it's a bit of a 1044 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,040 dead block now. It's it's hard pan. Um, 1045 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,319 so I I just wanted to address if if it 1046 00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:13,040 was if it was passed the way it's drawn, 1047 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,839 but that's a green area. uh then it 1048 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:18,480 would be impossible for us to go forward 1049 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,680 and and uh solve the parking problem we 1050 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,839 have that sort of was generated when 1051 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,880 they were allowed to build 1540. So 1052 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,560 we're hoping that you guys in your 1053 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,560 hearts could see the problems we're 1054 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,319 facing with parking in those two 1055 00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:35,599 buildings and uh that green area right 1056 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,760 now is a parking lot already and we're 1057 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680 not planning on building on it or or 1058 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,359 doing anything if we're able to acquire 1059 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:42,480 it. Like we don't know if we're going to 1060 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,119 acquire it or not. We hope we can 1061 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,400 I don't think that's gray confusion gray 1062 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040 area. So in the other drawing it's a 1063 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,400 green area. If we go back to the one 1064 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,520 where it shows green 1065 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,400 right here not green as planted. 1066 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,000 No let's go to the one where it shows 1067 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,910 the 1068 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,359 spot. Let's go for another species. 1069 00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:08,400 Next one there is that's covered by the 1070 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,680 green area. 1071 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,440 Well I think that's 1072 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,440 that's species of risk. speech is a 1073 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,960 grip. 1074 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,119 That's but tell I'm telling you there's 1075 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,440 there's no snakes on that hot pan. In 1076 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,000 fact, I'll tell you now after spending 1077 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,319 $22,000 to have a biologist there 1078 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:26,319 morning, noon, and night didn't find any 1079 00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:30,079 snakes. And it was species at risk that 1080 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,319 made me cut the grass after the salvage 1081 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:35,119 time within 48 hours and remove all 1082 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:36,800 vegetation. 1083 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,880 That's why it's been too hard to clear 1084 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400 now. Mhm. 1085 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,119 So, so I was I'm just here to solve a 1086 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,119 problem that we have existing in the in 1087 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,520 the in the village right now and it's 1088 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,880 going to increase as that building's 1089 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,119 completely full. We'll be struggling for 1090 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:56,790 parking on those two buildings. 1091 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Um the mayor, 1092 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,800 yeah, 1093 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,520 I have Josie Parker 1741 Lakeshore Road 1094 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,200 as a potential um owner of one of Mr. 1095 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,040 Bington's um lots. Um I would just like 1096 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,119 to say that 1097 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,000 or the question first is how many cars 1098 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,200 can you park in the driveway? Um like I 1099 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,040 don't know how long the driveways are. 1100 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640 How many cars could you park in the 1101 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 driveway before um out of consideration 1102 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,480 for Mr. Carson that we essentially give 1103 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,839 up parking lot that is part of the part 1104 00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:34,880 of the area now? Like 1105 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000 two on the driveway, two in the garage. 1106 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000 two in the driveway, two in the garage. 1107 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,800 Okay. Okay. So, that will help people 1108 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,160 make a decision, too, because um 20 21 1109 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,240 lots, you know, company, one thing and 1110 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,240 another, large families, you need a 1111 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:54,560 place to to park. Um Okay. And thank 1112 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,069 you. 1113 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:08,630 Any other questions? 1114 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,000 Is there anything else that the 1115 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640 applicant would like to address? 1116 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,520 Lots. 1117 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,640 Yeah. Well, 1118 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680 no, I think again really the the only 1119 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,040 issue we really blocks, right? We'd like 1120 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680 to keep it the way that we proposed it. 1121 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,280 I do have one question. I think that 1122 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,800 maybe Jordan could have Jared. and the 1123 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,839 green area which is archological. 1124 00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:32,319 Mhm. 1125 00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:33,920 Um 1126 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160 personally I'd like that all to be green 1127 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,920 area. 1128 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,960 Um obviously I'd like to plant trees 1129 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,119 where the archologicus and the sinclair 1130 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:44,960 allow me which is probably around the 1131 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,599 outer edge and like Jordan said put some 1132 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,480 benches or something in there. But are 1133 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,599 you telling me nobody can walk over the 1134 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,319 archeological land if it's a green area? 1135 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:01,040 Is it going to walk over it? 1136 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,069 The chair can answer for my same 1137 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,000 question. M 1138 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,079 um what it says in the the stage three 1139 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,000 assessment. Yeah. And the letter from 1140 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,839 the middle screen is um tree removals 1141 00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:20,160 not allowed. uh sight disturbance 1142 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,920 digging into the ground. Yeah. Not 1143 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,520 allowed. And generally speaking in 1144 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,520 parks, you're not allowed to do that 1145 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,800 anyways. 1146 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,760 Um walking over the land I don't think 1147 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,040 would be an issue. 1148 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:31,680 All right. So 1149 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,000 necessarily it's once you get extensive 1150 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,160 disturbance of that soil damage the 1151 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,319 artifact and everything that's really 1152 00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:39,920 nice I see a nice green area everybody 1153 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,839 point everyone can get some benefit 1154 00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:48,630 from. 1155 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,119 Um, just I don't know how you want to 1156 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:52,720 address the issue with the parking. To 1157 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,160 me, it sounds like it's something that 1158 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,839 you're going to park and go in good 1159 00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:57,520 faith and see what you can do in the 1160 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,160 future. 1161 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,079 Yeah. I I I just think you can't really 1162 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,760 address that. I mean, that's a and 1163 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,920 that's really just a private issue 1164 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,319 between two land owners anyway. 1165 00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:07,599 We just wanted to make sure that it 1166 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,079 wasn't zoned as a exclusive green area. 1167 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:11,920 Then that would take away the ability 1168 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,960 for us to make a a deal on the parking. 1169 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839 So, that was our only concern. 1170 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:20,240 Dr. Kog, 1171 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,880 is there any any issue with what they're 1172 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,760 saying 1173 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,400 on the Z? 1174 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,920 Yeah. Yeah. Through the chair, these are 1175 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,240 some things that are maybe better in the 1176 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,160 future to discuss rather than really at 1177 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,200 this time. 1178 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,880 Um, from my understanding of the whole 1179 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,880 endangered species act and the permit 1180 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,960 that was required for that, that is a 1181 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,760 habitat creation area if I'm uh correct. 1182 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,280 So, they will have to establish some 1183 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,680 sort of habitat. How that works together 1184 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,359 with a future parking lot, I think would 1185 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:46,880 need further study. They'd have to get 1186 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040 biologists out there, evaluate 1187 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,559 everything and then make a decision at 1188 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,549 that time. 1189 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,000 Well, I'm working with them right now. 1190 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,160 So, I'll try and answer those questions 1191 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,200 ahead of 1192 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,440 Well, you we've you've opened up to the 1193 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,359 opportunity to have a discussion in the 1194 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:04,880 future. So, there's nothing that we can 1195 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,079 do about that today. So, I just 1196 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:09,119 Yeah. 1197 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,119 So, does is what we're going to do 1198 00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:14,640 tonight will will that block them making 1199 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,160 that a parking lot or will they have to 1200 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,920 come back and start all over if they 1201 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,720 want to make it a parking lot? 1202 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,720 And through the chair today, really what 1203 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,559 council is doing is they're deciding on 1204 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,200 the reszoning application to allow the 1205 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,359 the 20 semi- detached owners in one 1206 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:31,119 single. The lot creation or the 1207 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,119 subdivision approval is actually up to 1208 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,280 the county of Atlanta. So, they will 1209 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,720 review the minutes, they'll review the 1210 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:38,640 report, they'll review all the the 1211 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,240 studies and reports that were submitted 1212 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,160 and they'll make a decision. Now, 1213 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,599 council, if they do support the 1214 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,760 subdivision, uh they could send to the 1215 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,680 county, let them know that you do 1216 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,920 support the subdivision. If there's some 1217 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,359 issues with some of the conditions or 1218 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:52,640 what's being proposed for some of the 1219 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,559 lots to merge together that can be 1220 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,079 identified in the minutes or even in a 1221 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:59,200 resolution and or sorry, as a in a 1222 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,960 motion and that can be sent to the 1223 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,800 county for their consideration. Uh but 1224 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,119 what you're deciding today has no impact 1225 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,480 on the park. You're not changing the 1226 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,760 zoning on that whatsoever. 1227 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,359 Okay. Thank you. 1228 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,280 Thanks, Jordan. 1229 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,040 There any more questions from council? 1230 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,800 Is there anyone um wish to make a motion 1231 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,880 regarding the resing application? Oh, I 1232 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,240 got to close I'm going to close the 1233 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,670 public 1234 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,359 so there no more questions. We're going 1235 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:32,160 to close the public part of the meeting. 1236 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,400 I thank you all for your input. 1237 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,839 Thank you, council. Thank you. 1238 00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:39,030 Thank you. 1239 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,480 There's two motions, right? 1240 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,599 I can move one. 1241 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,440 So, I'll move the council approve 1242 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:53,670 reszoning application Z1-2025. 1243 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,280 Second that. 1244 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,760 Nick, you want to do it? Can we do it as 1245 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,359 Jonah or do it separate? 1246 00:50:59,359 --> 00:50:59,839 Separate. 1247 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:02,640 Okay. All in favor of that motion. 1248 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,160 Thank you. 1249 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,800 Okay. Move on. And is there a little 1250 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,680 I'll move the second. 1251 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,200 Thank you. 1252 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,480 You have it. 1253 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,640 Yeah. 1254 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,000 You want to read it? Oh, sorry. Do you 1255 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,640 want me to read? 1256 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,319 I can read it. that the report and 1257 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,960 comments from the public be received and 1258 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,920 that council re recommends to the county 1259 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,839 of LAN they approve the application 1260 00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:29,520 subject to the draft conditions of the 1261 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,760 approval 1262 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,400 seconded by council doctor. All in 1263 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,430 favor? 1264 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,200 So, just as a reminder, there is a 1265 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:51,910 20-day appeal period. 1266 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,079 Have you just mandated the conditions in 1267 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,559 that you agree with all the those 1268 00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,800 conditions? 1269 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,319 We've recommended um 1270 00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:04,640 the county approve and basically 1271 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,559 consider all those conditions like it's 1272 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,000 up to the county to make the final 1273 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,760 decision on the recommen 1274 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,160 Yeah. Yeah. Am I correct Jordan? Like 1275 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,400 it's not 1276 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:14,880 Thank you. 1277 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,280 We we just moved it forward, right? Now 1278 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,359 the county does their due diligence and 1279 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:20,319 it comes back to us. 1280 00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:21,760 So we'll give them minutes of the 1281 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,040 meeting. They'll have access to the 1282 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200 video. This is all being recorded. So 1283 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,640 they'll have access to all the public 1284 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,640 input and then they will make the 1285 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,359 decision on what what the actual 1286 00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:33,440 conditions of the final approval will 1287 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,119 be. 1288 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,440 Okay. So thank you everyone for 1289 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,960 attending. Um we appreciate your input 1290 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,760 and the bylaw to reszone properly will 1291 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,720 be dealt with at a later um later in 1292 00:52:48,720 --> 00:53:03,910 this meeting. 1293 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:12,950 Now we are moving on to 1294 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:32,390 the camera. 1295 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,319 Okay. Yeah, you're right. 1296 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,160 Sorry. Let's stop there. 1297 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,280 Okay. So, moving on to number 10, the 1298 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,720 new building and environmental services. 1299 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,720 For several years, council has be been 1300 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,559 reviewing the need for a new building at 1301 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:48,240 the Environmental Services Department 1302 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:50,559 pollution control plant. The design and 1303 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:51,839 location of the building has been 1304 00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:55,280 determined and in 2024, the decision was 1305 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,760 made to go to tenders on the building. 1306 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520 Upon closing of the tenders, the 1307 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,440 engineer we were working with indicated 1308 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,680 that they could no longer support us 1309 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,760 with the completion of the project. 1310 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,079 Council subsequently directed staff to 1311 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,960 approach and a new engineer to review 1312 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,280 the design work and tenor the building 1313 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440 of the building. The engineer has now 1314 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,920 identified indicated that they have not 1315 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,240 identified any substantial changes in 1316 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,400 the design of the building. Staff would 1317 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,480 like to obtain final approval to proceed 1318 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,680 with the construction of the new 1319 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,160 building subject to the contractor with 1320 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,079 the low tender amount agreeing to the 1321 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,680 price 1322 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,160 to the bill for that price at that time. 1323 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,720 At this time, documentation 1324 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,160 from all past meetings of the 1325 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,599 environmental services building 1326 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:41,119 committee has been circulated for 1327 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,200 council's information. 1328 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,800 Construction of the new environmental 1329 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,400 services building has been discussed for 1330 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,720 approximately seven years. Staff is 1331 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,960 asking council to approve approve moving 1332 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,359 forward with awarding the center of this 1333 00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:59,589 project. 1334 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,800 So we circulated documentation 1335 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,800 um everything we recirculated 1336 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,599 open that door recirculated everything 1337 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:14,720 that um ever was sent to the 1338 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:16,240 uh 1339 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,880 the building committee and then also 1340 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,960 there was the document circulated to a 1341 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,720 council meeting in I believe it was 1342 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:26,880 April that broke down all the costs for 1343 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,880 you know all the not just the building 1344 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,160 but all the additional like um there's 1345 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,680 work that needs to be done around 1346 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,040 removing removing soil and there's uh 1347 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,359 fiber optic work and like a few of those 1348 00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:41,599 types of things. Um, so I recirculated 1349 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:45,280 that as well and then uh prepared a bit 1350 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,920 of a memo explaining where we've, you 1351 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,680 know, where we've been over the last few 1352 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,559 years with the project. And we have a 1353 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,160 recommendation 1354 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,680 um that 1355 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:09,430 council would like to discuss. 1356 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,520 Where did we discuss we discuss without 1357 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,040 a motion that when we're done? 1358 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,640 Um, 1359 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,319 typically there's a motion on the floor 1360 00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:20,480 to before you discuss 1361 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,990 open it up. 1362 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,319 Well, I'll move the recommendation. 1363 00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:28,240 Second. 1364 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,920 All in favor? 1365 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,400 Wait, no, sorry. To open it for 1366 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,720 construction. I didn't mean I meant for 1367 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:43,670 discussion questions. 1368 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,520 answer the mayor. Uh the new 1369 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,280 environmental services building is far 1370 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,319 more than a building upgrade. It it will 1371 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,240 provide a safe work environment for our 1372 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,960 employees and it's a commitment to 1373 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,880 sustainable and efficient municipal 1374 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,680 services at both environmental services 1375 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,000 and public works. 1376 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,400 Uh because it will allow more space for 1377 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,559 public works. Uh it'll position the 1378 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,240 village of Point Ever to move forward 1379 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,400 with immediate and future population 1380 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,640 growth as we spoke about here earlier 1381 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,480 this evening. 1382 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,520 I support this 1383 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,240 building. 1384 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,200 Other questions, comments? 1385 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,799 Depay 1386 00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:27,200 and Jim for putting together the 1387 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,799 comprehensive package. I know I 1388 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:32,240 requested it and it really helps us 1389 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,119 to make sure we're um we have all the 1390 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,240 information in front of us and not have 1391 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,599 to search it down. So, I do appreciate 1392 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:44,470 that. 1393 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,680 Any other questions? 1394 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,150 We recorded vote though. 1395 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,000 No, leave doors got to stay open. 1396 00:57:52,000 --> 00:58:06,150 Recorded vote, please. 1397 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,280 Councelor Mondu 1398 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,160 in favor. 1399 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,119 Councelor Noctturn 1400 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:10,000 in favor. 1401 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,119 Councelor Burgess 1402 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,000 in favor. 1403 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,119 Deputy Mayor Grimes 1404 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,119 opposed. And Mayor Hand 1405 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,839 in favor. 1406 00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:21,520 Motion carries four to one. So Jay and I 1407 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,440 and the treasurer will work over the 1408 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,040 next two weeks to have a report on 1409 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,000 financing and I I feel the St. Clair 1410 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,160 Street project and this are very 1411 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,240 intertwined as as you alluded to in your 1412 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,040 email. Um so we'll we'll have that 1413 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,960 report back for you in two weeks from 1414 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,520 tonight. 1415 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:38,240 Thank you. 1416 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:43,670 Okay. 1417 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,280 There might be other new business. 1418 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:53,990 Is there any other new business? 1419 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,920 Moving on to community events and public 1420 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,040 announcements. So, as a reminder, Machin 1421 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,760 Point ever is Saturday, July the 12th, 1422 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,680 and looking for people to support the 1423 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,839 Rotary Breakfast. 1424 00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:09,680 It's an annual event. Um, the car show 1425 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,480 vintage in the vintage in the park is 1426 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,040 July 25th. 1427 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,880 And that's all that that I know about in 1428 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,760 the next few weeks. Anybody have any 1429 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,430 other events that they know of? 1430 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,230 And no new business. 1431 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,960 We'll move on to bylaws. 1432 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,000 I'll move the bylaw that bylaw number 19 1433 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,720 being a bylaw to amend the zoning bylaw 1434 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,400 25 of 2012 be read a first, second and 1435 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,240 third time and finally passed on this 1436 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,870 8th day of July 2025. 1437 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,799 Thank you. Um 1438 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:54,960 second 1439 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,480 doctor. 1440 00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,880 All in favor that's carried. Um I needed 1441 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,960 resolution to move in camera. I'll move 1442 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,599 that. 1443 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,640 Thank you. 1444 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,390 Now we can shut the door. 1445 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,160 Now I'm going to stop the live stream.