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We, as you're getting settled, we heard a rumor that Susan might be on a plane.

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Oh, I just thought I'd mention that to you since you're vice chair. OK, I'm sorry

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for the short notice. I only heard 15 minutes ago. Who did I see, uh, walking out?

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She was here for, um, Thought that was Susan. That was Wendy. Wendy, yeah. Is she

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coming back in? Well, there's a problem. She's not, she hasn't, she, she needs, how

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would you say, um, something happened with her paperwork, so she's not signed in

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yet. So, do we have a quorum with just as Josh Josh shows up, yeah, if Josh shows

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up, we're hopeful. Anybody got a number for him? Yeah, I do. Could you, I'll give

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him a call because he usually dials in. So, OK. Let's give him a call and see if

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he's dialing in, please. You got the, uh, why don't I, why don't I give him two minutes

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because it seems like he dashes in at the last minute sometimes. Like he, he dials

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in a lot of the time too. Yeah, we do have that we can get that link to them. Yeah.

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I'll give him one more minute.

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What's new? Yeah, it's been busy.

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I just left the food bank. I hadn't been in there forever and eating people.

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Zipped in there for the day, for the afternoon.

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I saw the fire trucks coming out there and out that way when I was.

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Had to go in and have different

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uh I This some kind of spam call. Only dilate the eye. Um-hum.

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I says I got to drive. Yeah.

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Well, I had an eye

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test last and they got a new thing that they did do. Hey Josh, this is with uh your

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eye there. We're looking forward to either your dramatic entrance into the door so

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we have a quorum or flashes. Perhaps you're planning on joining us online, um, if

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you need that information, give a call. Um, I'm on my personal cell. It's

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406-210-4787, but if you could let us know what's up, that

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would be great. Bye bye.

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How was that? Everyone was so silent.

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If he calls back, it's on our website. Oh, might be the easiest place for him to

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go just to to go to our. Um There's a packet. He's out plenty early this time.

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It was here last week or earlier this week. I kind of figured people would get the

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packet and if they couldn't make it, they would let me know. Um, yeah, no, yeah,

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it was good. You had plenty of. Plenty of notice for this one.

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Well, thank you. I'm, I'm glad for the feedback

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she just didn't answer. OK, what about Susan? Uh, Susan, uh, we heard that Wendy

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said she's on a plane. On a plane. Yeah. She could sit in the airport. Didn't we

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have somebody do that once? Uh, I think David's done that. It was David.

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I guess I'm moving over here. Give it until 5 after, I guess. Do that.

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If we, we would set up a time for another meeting, it wouldn't make sense. OK

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And at one time they had looked at changing the requirement for a quorum. You guys

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were gonna talk to the city and the debt, anything ever come of that? There's nothing

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that has happened there. Yeah. I

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Yeah, we've just been so overwhelmed, but yeah, I don't think we want, I don't think

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we want to combine boards like they were talking. Right, people, yeah, I know we're

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going through, um, our current, we we're going through our municipal code. Uh, with

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perspective changes, um, Like I think we have a couple more weeks um and maybe that's

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something I can look at um I'm not sure how that will. So part of that involves the.

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As well, so it would be some of the cooperation. Yeah, and then, and then there's

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some in state law as well.

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Not that I'm sure we'll need to, but if you can go ahead and silence your cell phones.

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All day without it ringing and I didn't realize it was still on. Yeah.

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I turn it off at church so it doesn't wake me up. I mean.

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It doesn't disturb the, I'll, I'll forget to turn it back on all the time. The emergency

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bypass rings.

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How was your day, Chuck? Good. Busy. Did your project go well? No. No, it fell apart.

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We got winded out.

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That's what afforded him the luxury of being here today. And it's not going to be

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any better the rest of the week.

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No. Well, the medium link is working. The link is working. I'm sorry. So if Josh

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was on, he'd be able, because he usually dials in.

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Yeah, yeah, I went right to his, I'm Gemini voicemail, so I don't know if he was

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on his phone or what. We're about to go. OK, it's Gemini. Hi, I'm Gemini. We're about

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to go live where you can.

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What's this gentleman take over the world.

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It happens. Yeah, one of the automated assistants.

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So we need to have 4 to have a quorum.

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All right, let's give it till 1:00 just in case then if everybody's here, a few more

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minutes won't hurt. Uh. So.

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Wendy Wendy just had to go across town or something? Uh, there's something wrong

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with her paperwork, so she can't officially vote tonight, so her speaking here wouldn't

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help. Yeah. Yeah, we got to sign every, every year or so. Reaffirm. Every other,

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just other like every year. Yeah, every other year reaffirm. I could try texting

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him. Yeah, shoot him a text. I think it might be a text. He's usually pretty responsive,

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Now where did, where did Ford move to? He left the town.

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Uh, I think he moved south. He moved south. OK, too bad. Do you want me to just get

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Oh, somebody.

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Hi Josh.

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Just checking to see if you got the voicemail about City County planning board. If

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you'll be able to join us, so we have a. Very good.

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Please let us know. Thank you.

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Got a new phone recently. I've got to admit I didn't miss the dictation feature,

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but my iPhone 6 was dying and I upgraded to a 16.

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I. Mhm.

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Well, do we want to reschedule then you'll want to do. Public notice all over again

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and everything? Do I want to? Do you have to? Do you have to then. Yeah. I, I will

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do. Yeah. OK. If that's what we need to do. Yeah, what you do. And I will do it.

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Good spirit. I don't know if you want to give him a few minutes to see if he texts

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or I, and I also sent a text to Susan just to see if she was in a spot in her troubles.

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That, well, Rob suggested it. That's a good thing. If she gets. OK, we can hang out

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for a minute and see. Yeah on the fire. Yeah, and then I guess you just open the

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meeting and say, um, there's insufficient for a quorum, and then, Clothes.

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I'm still trying to read

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Let's see what that does for timeline. No, I don't have it on there. Well, no, I

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started it. Yeah, now we're recording. Oh, really?

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And I've been saying silly things we sent the paper this week come out next week.

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Sorry about that. She's, um. Think we can handle that on the back end. So we'd be

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looking at the second week. Um-hum,

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Well this is when we're doing uh

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What you call it. I'll spit it out eventually. King's Point that one. Yeah, we said

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so the board meetings this way anyway, so we just do the th Oh, she can. All right.

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Now I've got to OK. After I tell her she's our hero, I will find out how to get the

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link to her. OK,

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I can let that perfect.

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They start packing it across the road. Right. Very smart. Um,

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yeah, how do I get that? Oh, can you eat that?

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On the dock, the light. All right

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It's.

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You know, I on that.

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Oh, yeah, now the, it's opened up in the middle? Yeah. Yeah. That's how it was when

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we lived there. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And I always, I always wanted to put the. This would

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be cool if it built in the middle. You just testing

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it is a little bit hot on the side, so

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yeah, you don't need it because if you get it too close, it gets kind of you get

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to. I don't quite on being that close. So anyway, you can, yeah, there it'll pick

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you up, but um this is just for the benefit of the group um, the owl is what records.

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Rob, how do you think I can get this on my phone to her? OK, um. Here.

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Turn on, uh, does she have e-mail or text? I'm running on empty, but if you make

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it easy and text me the link, she'll be there. I just don't know how to get this

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to my phone. OK.

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Switch it you sent me.

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I'm assuming so. You know what you can do, um,

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Uh, If I take a picture of it, she's not gonna be able to click a link though that's

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the can you go to the website on your phone.

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She says she's running on empty and it needs to be as easy as possible. OK, um.

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So.

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Too soon.

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Oh you, let's see where you're in. Um, OK.

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Um, you want her number to send it directly to her. That's hers 463-82.

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Is that a link though or just the agenda that doesn't but the link is there if she

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can copy and paste I'll have to go to Zoom. Is there any way you can the

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OK, um.

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Sure, put my son. Oh, that's number. It is 406-382-9373.

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Thank you. So

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Grand.

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OK, but did you send out the same link to her? I sent it to her and then I tried

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it out myself.

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Hello, hello? OK.

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Um And it should automatically log her in. Yeah, I, I didn't make any passcodes,

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In that same car.

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Take it away.

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To me.

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Serious You're my hero. All of our heroes. Thank you so

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much. Hello. All right, so. Well, I was in such a, such a rush getting out of town

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to visit my daughter. I did not read the packet you sent me, so I'm here, but I don't

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know anything. You know you're our hero, so that's all we need. Can you

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see? Anything right now? Can you see the presentation or anybody? I

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can see the board. At the, at the, uh, desk. OK. All right. So, we'll make sure that

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when, um, we need to turn the, that around too, right? Uh, what I'm going to do is

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I'm going to share the packet so she can see it.

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Is Wendy not there? No, Wendy is not here. Cause she told me that she was, uh, going,

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had rearranged her schedule specifically to be there tonight. Yeah, yeah, she, she

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did. She needs to re up her, um, paperwork and, and, oh, take, yeah, she

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did come by. She was here. Yeah, there was a, there's a technicality which would

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prohibit her from, uh, voting. Unfortunately, but, but we'll have that resolved,

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um, hopefully by the next time. And so what I'm going to do is, uh, let's

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see here. And is the packet available on the website? Yeah, it

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it should be. Yeah, it's on the county's website. It's on our elections and agendas.

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No, maybe not. Is the packet on there too, just the agenda, OK, um, so no, don't

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go to department. Go to elected offices. Go to the very last item in that list there

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where it says agendas and minutes, OK. Uh, scroll down until you get to City County.

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No further. There you go and click on that. OK, so what I'm gonna do, I download

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it as maybe a PDF.

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So, the step. Well, I, um, I can't do both when I'm on my phone. Uh, what I'm going

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to do is, what I was going to do is share, so you'll, instead of seeing the board,

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you'll see the packet on your phone. If that makes sense. I'll show you so.

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So, so that way you can both listen. And So, there are.

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There's the packet. I'll just zoom in, kind of follow along, and you'll be able to

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see the maps and stuff. So, OK, yeah, there, there's the staff report in one

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PDF and then the staff at the staff report attachments are in another PDF. OK, I'll

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just so you know.

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OK, you're able to see it, Susan? I am OK. I, I'll need to do one last thing and

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I'll get the other report and then we can, we're good to go.

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Center. I can't find

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I told he didn't need to be here tonight. I'm glad you're here.

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Team, which Uh, oh wait, sorry. On here.

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Board of adjustment C, OK. Let me go back to this And then the very bottom, there

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we go. Oh nice. So, um, so I'm, do you see the picture of

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the, the property? OK, so I can go, um.

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We have both available and, uh, I'll, and you can see I'll just follow along, so

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take it away. OK. Rod's gonna be vanner white today. We probably need to tend to

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officially, yeah, so we'll call the meeting to order and roll call will just be able

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to say who's here. Right, yeah, Ken Murphy. Dick River Dave Cannon.

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Yep, OK. And please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all. That

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All right, uh, for the dirty sombrero special use permit, uh, can we have the staff

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report, please?

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I'm Michelle and I'll be presenting for Dirty Sombrero. Chuck Chuck Hogan of Dirty

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Sombrero LLC is requesting special use for approval for a previous surface coverage

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greater than 20%, not to exceed 30%. The request is associated with the construction

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of a single family residence with an attached garage. Page 2, number 2. The applicant

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submitted a narrative requesting special use for the property to construct a new

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home with attached garage, replacing the existing nonconforming house. The project

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includes relocating the power pole to the west side of the lot. A new power line

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to be underground, um, they're seeking for 25.8% impervious surface coverage. Number

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3, Section 51 of the city-county zoning regulations identifies impervious surface

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coverage greater than 20%, not to exceed 30% of the buildable area of a lot as a

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special use. Subject to approval and approval by the board, subject to review and

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approval by the board of adjustments. According to the site plan submitted by the

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applicant, the proposed development includes a single family residence with an attached

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garage that would result in a previous surface coverage of approximately 25.8% of

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the buildable area. This constitutes a special use.

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The calculated impervious surface coverage for the proposed development determined

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that 4,284 square feet of impervious surface is planned within the total buildable

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area of 16,552 square feet, resulting in the 25.8% coverage. Um, moving on

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down to 5, the subject property is a lakefront parcel that was legally created as

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parcel A1 on government Lot 2 on COS 22446. That was

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an occasional sale? On October 20th of 1975, before zoning and subdivision regulations

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were implemented, the lot is currently developed with a single family residence which

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is proposed to be removed as part of the redevelopment plan. The lot is relatively

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flat and level with a slight slope toward the lake. Number 8, to protect the water

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quality of Flathead Lake and to minimize environmental impacts to adjacent properties

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and infrastructures, best management practices such as silt-fencing, straw wattles,

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and fibers, excuse me, straw bales and fiberwas or wattles should be implemented

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prior to the start of the construction and maintained throughout the phase of the

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project.

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These erosion and sediment control measures are essential during pre-construction,

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active construction, and post-construction activities. BMPs must remain in place

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to be properly maintained until all disturbance areas are fully stabilized and vegetated.

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Number 11, uh, legal notice for the applicant's request was placed in February 26,

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2026 issue of the Lake County Leader and adjoining property owners were notified

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of the request. As of the date of this report, no public comment has been received.

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And then, um, After review of the site, uh, I'm on page 5, sorry. After review of

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the site's special use applications, city, county, zoning district, and regulations

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and related information, Lake County Planning Department has suggested findings that

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indicate the the board of adjustments could consider approval for the special use

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to allow for the impervious surface coverage between 20 to 30% on the property. This

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concludes my report.

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OK. And then, uh, time for, uh, Before we go on to

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applicants, are you gonna go through the, the conditions of use? So we don't

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I mean if you'd like me to go through them. Um, tell you what, we can hit those at

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the end at, uh, staff comments then. So let's, let's do that because I don't know

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that we need to go through all of them. Some of them are hit in the up in front and

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then there's some in the back. So then on to the, uh, applicant's comments and please,

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uh, state your name, uh, when you come up to the microphone.

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That's you.

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I don't, I don't really have a comment.

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Yeah, Chuck Hogan here for dirty sombrero. So any, any, uh, sir, anything you need

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to add for the.

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Uh, for the, for the presentation for the good of our. No, I don't think so. But

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now, where did we get 4200 square foot is that? Um, that's including your eaves and

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just a rough,

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just on a single house though with your attached garage and yes, the new bill, yes,

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sir. OK.

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Patios, things like that also, yeah, yeah and the concrete apron.

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Uh, no, I, I really don't. I, I mean, it it does have a lot of vegetation now. It's

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all natural grass, um, um, we can get some of the straw bells though, and, and, you

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know, there'll be a. Pretty minor. OK, so I would, I would ask them as we go through

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the staff recommendations they have, uh, the recommendation if as we hit any of those

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come back up as required then, OK. Thank you. So then on to public comment. Anybody

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on the web or in the room?

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OK. And then, uh, on to board discussion. Susan, start with you there on that end.

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OK, um, I just have the question we keep referring to the dirty sombrero. Am I to

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assume that this is nothing whatsoever to do with the business, but it's simply a

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residential, uh, repurposing of that lock into a, a more modern home.

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Dirty Softurs the LLC. Uh, so Dirty Sombreros the go ahead so she can hear you. Yes,

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Dirty Sombrero is the LLC linked to the owner. OK. So, but it's not going to be,

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uh, it's just the owner of the property and, and, uh, it will, but it will still

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be a private residence with an attached garage correct. OK.

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So, uh, Dave. Yeah, I had a question in regards to the stormwater management plan.

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And if that would cover. The area where the existing home is going to be demolished.

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And if that disturbed soil will be part of the, the BMPs for the property. And if

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there's any kind of a revegetation plan. Linked to the, the site plan. At this time

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there isn't, but that's something that we could add, um, the re revegetation, um.

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I'm all, I'm. Well, my, my only thought was that because the, Disturbed area, once

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the, the existing house is removed, that's within that shoreline upper area and there's

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requirements for revegetating that area. So just to help keep sediment and erosion

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and so forth into the lake. So, that was really my only comment. And that was one.

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It goes to page 5, bullet 5 runoff management. Runoff management shall be controlled

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in a manner that prevents impacts to adjoining properties and natural environment.

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Planning staff recommends a condition of approval stating that prior to the issuance

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of the zoning conformance permits, a stormwater management plan must be reviewed

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and approved. And I believe it says later approved by health department. I'm not

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Generally the planning department would review those unless it's a DEQ, so it'd be

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reviewed by our office. Yeah, it's the same one then page 6 bullet 3 addresses the

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same thing.

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Um,

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So yeah, just so that review and approval is done. Um,

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Yeah, bullet 8 talks about the disturbance of slopes. And if we could add to that

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or if there's any need to add to that the footprint of the. The uh existing house

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to be demolished.

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Uh, bullet 8 on page 66 correct.

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Now, we have added, Revegetation to. Other ones before.

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But what does that, you know, what does that really mean? Is that planting grass?

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Is that planting native grasses, is that? So. It's typically native vegetation associated

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with the lake front. Um. And so, I would say amend, Bullet

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5 on page 5, runoff management.

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Stormwater management plan and revegetation plan. Must be reviewed and approved,

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and I would like to add approved by who? That is the. County county planning department.

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OK, so that, so I said. Go ahead, Susan.

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Um, no, I'm, I'm talking to my son-in-law. OK, so prior to issuance of a zoning conformance

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permit, a stormwater management plan, and Revegetation plan will be reviewed and

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approved approved by the county planning department. OK? Good.

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I was going to ask a question about access control. I know around the lake, there

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are individual places to cover the secondary lots or upper lots that give access

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to the lakes, and is this the same type of a concept?

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Um, do you have, is there an easement? I don't, yeah, they usually, they're usually

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done by easements. Yeah. I didn't read anything about an easement in this, and I

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didn't either. I know the road. I don't think there's a lot above this property,

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is there?

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It's Bishop, but he doesn't use it. Yeah, but that would be, that's usually how it's

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that would be an, an easement on with God because I got an easement that would be

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an easement on file with the county down here. Yeah. I got, yeah, I'd be interested

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to know if we know. Yeah. There's no bill out where he's been associated with this

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lot. Pardon? There is no villa or easement associated with this lot.

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Yeah

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Um,

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I think it's anything else. I think it's good that they're removing the nonconforming

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and getting the lake back to a more somewhat natural setting, so I think that that's,

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that's, that's a good thing. Um, and,

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And my main concern was the runoff for the lake as well.

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I was going through these, uh, see if I, I don't have anything else underlined in

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here.

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OK. Page 5 bullet 6 looks like the health department went through and looked at what

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they were supposed to, so that's already done. That doesn't need to be a condition

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of use, so that one's already knocked out.

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And I guess going. Kind of overall back to the comments.

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It's Less than 20% in previous surface area they wouldn't need to have come forward

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at all. 20 to 30% it comes forward to the board. Yes sir. Anything above 20 can constitutes

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the special use, and they're allowed, by the way I read page 6 bullet 2, they're

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allowed up to 28% if there's. Is that that because that's what we're asking for,

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yes, is up to the 28 just for calculational errors, human error.

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Um, and then on page 6, bullet 3, we'll need to add in a revegetation plan in,

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in, uh, paragraph 3. I believe.

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Storm water management plan and revegetation plan.

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That making sense there? OK.

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Yeah, bullet 5 talks about the. Pests management plan for practices, storm water

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plan.

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Any other issues and alibis?

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OK, um, did you hear that, Susan? Do you have any questions? Um, no, I, I think,

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uh, you've all asked what the pertinent questions already.

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OK, I don't know if the handout got covered from, um, Jen Niemeyer. He knew he wasn't

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going to be able to make it. This is, this is comments from Jim. Um, as the planning

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board conservation district representative. I propose that since eventually Rocky

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Point Road will be provided with sewer services, that if any such services become

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available to this property. Will be required to connect and I think that would be

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on the scope of this board to put in a. Um, stipulation that is. At some that is

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gonna be such a huge project going from. The condos are actually, uh,

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my understanding is that if, uh, if a new sewer line does go in, it's a state law.

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Yeah. That they are required to hook up, because I just went through that with my

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own property about 10 years ago. Yeah, I think that would be beyond the scope of

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us to, Because that's eventually it's I, I agree with her comment, eventually it's

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gonna happen.

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Um, and I live out in that area, so, um, I may be paying for it as well. Um, not

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in this immediate neighborhood, but. Right, OK, thank you though for bringing, for

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bringing that up. I think it'd be beyond the scope of us to put a Conditional use

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statement in, for this, that's I'm going, I just wanted to make sure it got OK. Got

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mentioned. All right. Any other, uh, board comment?

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All right. Um, I guess we'll put it to those in favor say aye, right, and

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those opposed, so we have 4 ayes. None of your bones. So it is

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approved as per the con. Conditions of special use? Conditions

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and terms, OK. All right, um, closing that section, going on to public

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comments on significant matters to the public, not on the agenda.

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And then nobody's online, and then on to other business.

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Right. Anything else? Uh, one item to note, um, that, uh, The

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go live date for govwell, our new permiting software. This is just more an FYI, um,

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that will be here tentative plan in a week. So we're pretty excited about that. Um,

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that's the first module. The second module is, uh, a planning and zoning module.

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And so I think part of that, um. I don't know all the planning and zoning features,

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but there might be some automation in there in terms of staff reports, notifications,

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and so hopefully, at least from the cities on our end of things, uh, from the cities,

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um, there should hopefully be some automation which will help communication and transparency

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and all that stuff, keeping the board informed. So, so I'm excited about that in

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the future. Dan, I like the way that we got an email a while back on this. So when

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it, when it went out for public notice, I think you sent us all the email that said,

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because I don't buy that paper every week. So I thought it went very, very well this

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time. Appreciate it. OK. Uh, any other comments? OK. Meeting is adjourned.

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Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Travel safe. Have fun.

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Good night. Good night. She she started a fire, so we wouldn't be here. Oh, OK. Just

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distracting and deterring people. The doctor.

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Right on, but there's, there's a speed ball too, so nothing's gonna. I'll see you

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later

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bye. you need help with Oh yeah.

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I think I'm just gonna. Yeah,

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we, we don't

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too much and, OK, OK,

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yes, I'll show you. But yeah, that one poor family that good to see you. I

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see you like. They were, they were building that lodge and because the back half

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of the walk was steep that you're welcome here before the board where because it

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was steep, it had nothing to do with it. Yeah, so that was, that was a great one

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on the way home.

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Thanks Ken for your patience. All right, no, good idea

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getting that because we don't wanna have to go through and then come back in and.

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That's right, yeah, you didn't give me that answer.

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I didn't. I did some research and I just got overwhelmed, but I did, I did do when

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I was over there. I looked into it and there isn't, um, there wasn't on this property.

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There wasn't access

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to everything's good to that. So

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I don't know about that. This is like my 3rd staff report. I was very, very nervous

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because I've never been here, so. Yeah, oh, sure, well, I appreciate it. Thank you.

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I dug around and the track was always the worst and I didn't mentioning that one.

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No, um, I was

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thank you. I actually never found not sure how to throw it in, so I think.