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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. The time is 5 o'clock PM. We have a special meeting of the

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Pontiac City Council schedule for us to do some public hearings on the proposed

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Miljorates for the coming fiscal year as well as the proposed city of Pontiac budget. The meeting

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is called to order as scheduled at 5 o'clock PM. We'll give the floor to clerk Pontiac City Clerk

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Carl and Doyle to contact the role call of city council members.

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Can you say?

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President,

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goodman,

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James, Jones, McGinnis,

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President, Parker, here.

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Brotherford, President, you have a quorum.

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All right, quorum being established.

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Councilwoman Kathleen James is also president voting.

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We've heard from Councilwoman Jones that she won't be able to make the special meeting

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due to some unexpected challenges, but we do expect Councilman Goodman.

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Could I please have a motion to excuse Councilwoman Jones from this meeting for personal

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reasons?

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Moe Buck Harrington?

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Moe Buck?

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Moe Buck?

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Moe Buck?

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Moe Buck?

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Moe Buck?

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Moe Buck?

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and then Parker, any discussion on the motion?

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Very non-roll call clerk, Doyle, on the motion

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to excuse Councilperson Jones from this meeting

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for personal reasons.

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Canaryton?

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Yes.

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James?

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McGinnis?

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Yes.

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Parker?

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Yes.

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We're other for it.

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Five, the Ayes, and O'Nays.

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All right, that motion carries.

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We're now at Approval of the agenda.

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Is there a motion to adopt and approved?

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Move by, Canaryton.

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Is there a second?

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It's been moved by Council Pro Tem, seconded by Councilman Parker, the motion is before us and the discussion amendments, changes of clarification.

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Yes, ma'am.

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So when we get to the part where we want to add money to certain parts of the budget, do we just wait to do that?

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Are we wait?

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Do you want to do it now?

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In this special meeting, we're doing the public hearing only on the budget.

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So that would be during the regular meeting.

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But if you go that route, then we will have to have an additional meeting next week.

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I understand.

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All right.

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Here, you know, for the discussion on the proposed agenda, roll call clerk, do I want

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an adoption of the resolution, or excuse me, adoption of the agenda as proposed?

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James?

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Oh, she left.

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I'm a Guinness.

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Yes.

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Parker?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Carrington.

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Yes.

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for yeas, uh, well, James, five

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yeas, no nays.

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Okay, very good.

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That motion carries.

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We're now at public comment.

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Were there any requests this evening?

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You could just read it if there is any.

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The rain lasana.

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And before we'll start, the microphone used to be turned on at the bottom right of the base

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of the, you're in the right spot.

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Yep, it's live now.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon.

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I'm Lorraine LaZana from Stone Gate Point and I'm here to request funds from the surplus budget or whatever fund might be available to complete our roads in lighting and stone gate point.

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The reason I'm requesting it is that there were agreements made over 20 years ago to complete our roads and that has not been done

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In order to do the project, bonds were sold, but we're not sure what happened with the money

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because the roads did not get completed.

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There was however guarantees in the contract for completion.

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So we're saying that the contracts were broken.

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However, also in the contract, three years was allowed to complete the road.

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So we're saying 20 years is a bit much and that's still not done.

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We do have a new builder that has a approach, building units in some gate, and we're asking

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that the city hold up on doing any improvements for construction until we know what the status

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of the road completion is.

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So again, we're asking for $3 million to be allocated from the budget to help us in completing the roads.

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Thank you.

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Any other requests?

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Clerk Doyle.

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Arlene Clark.

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That is the request.

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Okay, here you know for the request for public comment at this time.

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We'll move to number one on the agenda.

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Public hearing regarding the proposed millage rates for the 2025-2026 fiscal year.

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We do anticipate making a decision on this matter this evening.

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but we want to first give an opportunity for the community to weigh in.

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With the administration, I would like to present anything further, or would you like us

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to read the proposed knowledge rates, would you have in mind?

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Thank you, Councillor President.

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This is actually a fairly straightforward item.

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The administration is not asking for any overrides or special changes to the

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We are asking to move forward with the maximum allowed milled rates by the headley amendment.

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All right.

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With that, the proposed city millages for operating purposes.

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They are under the 2024 headley maximum allowable millage, the operating, the charter,

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Established operating millages at 10.8924 mills, the City Charter Established Capital Improvements,

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millages at 1.3613 mills, the state law initiated sanitation millages is 2.7229,

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and then the City of Pontiank voter established Senior Services Millages at 0.4829,

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1, the voter established youth recreation milk is 1.4491, and the voter established operating

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millages at 1.087, excuse me, 1.0847.

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So those are the proposed millage rates, again no change, no increase over the previous fiscal

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year.

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Is there any clarification from council members before we open up a public hearing to receive community feedback on the proposed millage rates for the year?

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Protem Kerington.

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Thank you, President begin.

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I just want to ensure that the charter, these, these are a lot of the villages where the same is last year.

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Deputy Mayor Stevens.

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Yes, Councilman, these are the same villages.

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Where you see the voted operating village, if you recall, it may have been the first year or

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the second year in office, we present a headly override request, and that is what you see in

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the voted operating.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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All right, with that, we're going to open it up for a public hearing for any community members

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that wished to opine off of their feedback or close questions about the proposed milled rates

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for the coming fiscal year.

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This will be July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year and obviously for a

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property owner in the city of Pontiac that results in a summer 2025 tax bill and then a winter

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2025 tax bill that usual cycle remains.

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Yes, ma'am.

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So, what will be the average I use an administration on this question that the summer taxes are going to increase as well?

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I know you said it's not going to increase about the amount that percentage, but how does this increase on the actual tax bill?

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Does it based upon each individual?

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Deputy Mayor, you've been yielded to answer the question.

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Thank you.

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I don't have that answer, but I can give you an example.

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So the millage rates by the headly amendment get moved down based on how much the property values went up this year.

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So the idea is to try and keep the income to the city neutral and only allowing enough increase to deal with whatever the actual inflationary increase was.

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But I don't have an exact number to say, hey, here is a property and that property went up

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and taxable value by $100.

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And so their tax bill is going to go up by $5.

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I don't have that.

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To actually answer your question, it depends on the parcel.

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So we got 25,000 parcels in the city and it depends on what the assessed value is.

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So that there's no increase in the assessed value of a parcel based on the annual assessment done,

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then there will be literally zero dollar change.

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It really just depends on how much is it assessed that that parcel is increased in value.

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But what we determine is the millage rate.

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So the millage rate would mean if there's no change in value, there's no change in the tax amount.

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Any further clarification before we open up the public hearing?

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We have chartered on it, but I thought we would be done with charter.

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In the city charter, it establishes, I don't want to miss quote.

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In the city charter, is what it says is the operating village,

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and in the city charter it says with the capital improvements village.

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The city charter establishes that those villages exist and their rates.

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So when there was a revision of the city charter, it didn't change that.

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So, just like within the decades prior, those villages exist, but it's charter initiated.

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It's the charter, the trigger that.

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That adequately answered that.

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Thank you.

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Any final clarification before we open up for public hearing?

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All right, this is the community's opportunity to offer their feedback,

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perspective, and questions on their proposed mills rates.

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Again, proposing no increase, no change from the previous fiscal year.

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The public hearing is opened

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at 513 PM. If you want to come up, state your name and address.

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I'm darling Clark, 506 Nebraska Avenue.

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Though there's no changes within the mill, this wasn't before you for this budget.

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There's still a lot of unanswered questions for this budget that the public does have.

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The public doesn't see no imp-

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They see a status within the city of Paniay. They don't see a movement. They don't see a movement with

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the red center, the youth center. They don't see a good movement with the senior ballroom

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Peterson and a boy center. They don't see movements and improvements of the street. The

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problem is this that if your intent is to help the people get the streets picked up or are straight

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up or prepared. I apologize for the compensation but for the repairs. How do you suggest

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going about that? Will you have a surprise visit, a surprise fund on the taxes for them in

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a later date? Right now, it's a lot of unanswered question that the public do really want

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to know.

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Other requests on the proposed militaries? Then we'll make it, yes, you're welcome. Then we'll

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make a decision on the proposed military after the conclusion of the public hearing and discuss

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the matter or decide to table the item, and then we'll have a second public hearing

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on the budget itself, the proposed budget.

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Good before.

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Lorraine, Ms. Anna, 304, pain.

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I was a little bit confused when you talked about the increase in the assessor value.

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Are you saying that that tax rate would only be on the increase portion?

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If it change, so if it will not buy a hundred dollars, are you saying it's only on the

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increased portion and the base remains the same?

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We can strive to answer questions after the public hearing.

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Okay, that was my.

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By the request to speak, opportunities for feedback during the public hearing and the proposed

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millage rates.

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Any other requests?

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Any other requests?

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Any other requests?

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Hearing none, the public hearing on the proposed milled rates for the upcoming fiscal year

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is concluded at 516 p.m. Deputy Mayor Stevens, which is like take a first crack at

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addressing the residents' question about what the impact of any increase in value has.

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Thank you, Mr. President, and I do apologize if my answer was misleading or confusing.

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No, it was not my intent to say that the millage rates only apply to any change and taxable value.

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I was just using that as an example to illustrate the councilwoman's question as to how will this increase anyone's taxes?

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So the, I think a more succinct answer is, we are not increasing the millage rates.

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So your taxable, the taxes that you pay would only go up if your assessed value goes up.

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If your taxable value goes up, then the amount that you pay will go up.

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If your taxable value does not change, the amount that you pay does not change.

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All right.

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So, the public hearing on that regard number one on the agenda is concluded, like to recognize

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Councilman Goodman's present voting, we're at number two on the agenda, resolution

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approving the annual millage rates for the 2025-25-26 fiscal year, is there a motion to approve

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the resolution?

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Is there a second?

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It's been moved by Councilwoman Rutherford, second by Councilwoman James, so that resolution

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is now before us.

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You see the wording on the resolution before us, and we've most immediately had taken a public hearing to provide feedback as well.

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Any discussion on the motion to approve those annual property tax militarets?

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All right, so again, this is no change from the previous fiscal year from the previous year of property tax cycles,

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millage rates, and so that will, on the only change of variation in one's property taxes

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would be related to any change, necobie reduction, you know, change increase or decrease

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on the assessed value of the property.

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If you ever have any questions about parcels that you own or have interest in on their assessed

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value rates, open county equalization division on Elizabeth Lake Road in Pontiac, your

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and answer questions specifically about parcels,

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and it is public information.

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Confluent James.

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Also, it might be helpful to just have, as part of this,

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what the average increase, you know,

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would be for the average householder.

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Yeah, that's a fair, that is a fair question.

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People just see a number.

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It gives them some level of comfort.

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So just to have that average,

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If it's $30, $20, whatever, people seeing a number,

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they feel a little more confident about it.

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So, and we recognize there's big disparity of vacant land versus a structure.

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We're mainly interested in forest structure.

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I've seen based on some studies that the administration has provided,

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that the average value of a home in Paniak is 100,000 or 103,000.

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So usually your assess value is like 50% you know there's different figures but what it takes

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into account the question is on average how much is that increased year over year in

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Pontiac depending on where someone's at and we recognize that each parcel is unique

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and different but we want to be able to give people perspective.

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Just that average because it should be within the level within a pretty small level and I think

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that alone would kind of give people some confidence.

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And that goes back to the original question

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that Council on Rutherford was asking

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how to have the rest of the year.

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Any further discussion on this resolution?

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Just re-confirming the tax milled rates for, again,

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this is required each year.

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So whether they remain the same, go down or go up.

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Each year, you'll see your city government

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have to make this re-determination

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of what the rates will be.

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Here in North of the Discussion,

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roll call clerk Doyle on adoption of the resolution setting the 2025- 2025-6 fiscal year

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property tax metrics. James? Yes. Beginners? Yes. Parker? Yes.

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Brotherford? Yes. Carrington? Yes. Give me. Yes. Six jays, no nays. All right. We are at number

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three on the agenda. So, we as the city of Pontiac are required to have our annual budget set by

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June 1st, based on the new city charter.

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So that deadline is approaching.

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We received the Mayor's proposed budget, mid-April.

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We held a budget hearing April 22nd, May 13th, and discussion at various regular city

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council meetings as well.

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Tonight is May 20th.

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This is the public hearing opportunity, a formal opportunity to speak about the budget

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being proposed so far and then at the regular city council meeting we will have another reading

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of that proposed budget. Council gets to decide if they're in a position they want to

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ratify it that evening this evening at the regular meeting or if it should take place at a

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future special meeting so that will be the determination but we got to make sure that we get it in

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per the city charter by the end of this month. All right so you as residents that the opportunity

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to weigh in formally and informally at those previous meetings, but we want to carve out

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a specific time for you to make requests, raise concerns during this public hearing, which

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opens now, 522 PM, in any resident or community member that wishes to speak, please state

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your name and address.

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I have a question actually and looking at the budget for area three relating to the

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Tiffle bonds

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area three

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and if you guys have that there.

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So my question is the fund the Tiffle is under fund 240.

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So it appears that the estimated revenues are 2.4 million and debt services are a little

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over 2 million with a profits or a speak of 333,000, but then it shows an ending fund balance

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of 2,07.

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So I didn't quite understand it.

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It began at 3 million, a deficit of 3 million.

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So I'm wondering how did those numbers occur.

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And if there's funds still in the, from when the bonds were sold.

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Thank you.

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Other citizens request to speak on the proposed City of Panic Annual Budget.

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If you're a resident of a particular neighborhood advocating for particular infrastructure

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improvement, you're welcome to make your case at the microphone now if you wanted to.

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Valor grows 322 paying an avenue of the afternoon or a good evening council, Deputy Mayor.

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Yeah, I'm looking and asking for the council to really consider supporting our roles being built

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in our division. Stone Gate is one of the apples, one of the diamonds in Pontiac City.

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We've been making this request now for some time. I remember when we originally asked FedEx

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to give us the money before they built their system right off a telegraph there.

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We asked, I don't know, I can tell you, I don't remember how many money and residents

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were there but it was a few and we asked them to give us the million dollars before that

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would build their service behind our residents. We also asked them to build a burn to make

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sure that the noises wouldn't bother our citizens as we, because when we live there,

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you don't want any other noises of it in the trains that we get running back and forth there.

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We knew that before we moved there, that the trains could be a problem, but we didn't ask for FedEx to be there.

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I specifically talked to FedEx management and asked them if you would like to build your company there.

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you need to give money at Stone Gate Residence something in return, and they ask, well what

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would that be? And I said at least a million dollars for the roads. And we met on that. We also asked

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that they bill that burn to make sure that noise isn't bothering the residents and our community.

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And we also ask that we have some type of promises that the pollution wouldn't be bothered

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to kids and the residents in our community that exes lived up to everything that they've

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They've given us the million dollars.

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It's all in hold.

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They've built the barn.

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We don't hear the noises from their truck and company.

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They make sure that the air is purified around our neighborhoods.

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But the concern that we've had like in the past,

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it was promised that these roads would

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be built when those houses were built in our neighborhood.

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Before they were built, there was a promise that the builders would make sure that roads and

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our lights were completed. They didn't live up to that. That does

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conclude your time. So I'm asking that please look into us

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giving those roles built. Thank you. Other requests to speak during the public

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hearing and the proposed annual budget?

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Do you need it again?

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Thank you. He's good. I can say my name,

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All right. I'm darling Clark. Once again, the people would like to have not so much a code

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increase for DPW to have an increase in order to get a quality job done for the worker

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they have done. They're limited to what they're doing for the city. They work on a bill

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minimum with tools and supplies, but not just that.

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Though code has done a good job with Mr. McIntyre,

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he has bought the city up from where it was,

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but it's still to do a sloppy job,

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and I'd say that because I'm into trim and you know,

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the yards and the grasses and things like that.

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When you hire subcontractors to come out and do work,

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They don't do a perfection job for public streets, especially for the main streets like

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here I, for a clean road.

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Why track the main streets where you can see a little more care given into their jobs? But another thing

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the streets, the streets are such, I mean, not just don't gate, the whole city of Panean. Harrison

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Street looks awful. My street, I guarantee you look just as bad as Harrison Street. We got

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homes in there. And not just district one in every district, pipe street. All these streets

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that the traffic has to go down. The people just want to see that the council have a little

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more care and to try and get more money and the budget to have at least start a project. Like

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start fixing some of the residential streets. So the next administration can have the opportunity to

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pass that part and try to keep up because for somewhere there's not enough money in the budget

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to fix any street. So you don't do anything with the residential street. So look into

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that as you look into stone, get to see the importance of what's going on with the rest.

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And their main complaints are the streets.

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This is Dr. Deerge Roterman, 312 out of a drive on ahead with this public hearing. I also would

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to start my comments by picking up on some of the things that were said previously in this

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public hearing. And I could prefix that by saying that I've been to each one of the budget

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meetings that you've had, and I've seen the discussion that has gone on. But I'm realizing

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that as we've gone to the discussion,

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the mostly soft questions, and that's unusual.

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generally want to budget meetings I've gone on other administrations, people are really looking

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at financial choices and there's some tough decisions to make and hard decisions to make.

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But after the discussion I've heard and I understand from the agenda that you really hope that

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this budget will be approved, maybe even this at this evening's meeting from what I see,

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and I'm just wondering how we're ready to do that, given the fact that number one,

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As I look through the budget, it has proposed, and that's the mayor's proposed budget.

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So far, you haven't made any changes to it.

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Okay, so it means you're accepting cold, cold face, the things that are in there.

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But, as I look at that budget, I'm looking for the things related to.

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The chief concern, if you ask people what the top priority is is the roads, the roads are in that shape.

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And as I'm looking at the budget, I don't see a line item there that allows for other repairs of the budget in the budget for roads and mostly our local roads.

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So where is the money? What are you allowing for that? What is the consideration for that?

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I see the regular money that comes in all the time, the State Act 152 money, but we watch.

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There's a lot more this.

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We had a million dollars worth of local roads and need to be repaired.

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And I don't see any lot in the budget in any plan.

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The other question is, as I'm trying to balance what I've heard from Ernst Young

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in terms of the way the opera money is sent.

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And some things I've heard from the mayor's office is that I don't see where's the line item

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for the $10,000 that you say is going to come out of the budget to for the youth

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rex center.

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I'm not saying that and I'd like to see where the questions are.

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The other question is, they half of the $10,000 I told you is missing that I'm

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when I asked the mayor about it last year.

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He said, oh that's because it wasn't an issue budget because of the arbitration.

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Well, do you know if any arbitration you would have had to approve the arbitration?

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So, I'm not sure there was ever an outpatient and maybe this is just a pretext, but that

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half me in dollars you should be concerned about that and ask that question and it should

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be in the revenues and hopefully you have the revenues or are looking into that.

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Half of me in dollars would pay for another 20 or 30 residents to get their homes repair, but

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it's $25,000.

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So, don't cheat the people by having money missing because we'd have deals.

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Good evening, City Council, and all those present.

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My name is Gerald Allen, I am a proud home owner in the Stone Gate community for the past

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16 years.

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As residents of Stone Gate, I stand before you today to advocate for the sub division.

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Also to express the urgent need for the city's support is securing a grant that will

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helping our role repairs as well as our lighting.

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As residents of Stone Gate, we contribute significantly

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to the city's revenue, and we believe that it is our right

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for our needs to be addressed and to see tangible improvements

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to our communities' infrastructure.

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So I stand before you again,

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asking an urgent you for your support,

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and our communities repair to our roads,

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because currently they present and pose a safety hazard and we believe with this grant along

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what our money that is in escrow that will enhance the safety and accessibility to all the

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residents in our community. So, I thank you for your attention and I look forward to all of

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your support. Thank you, sir. Mr. Young, could you state your address? Yes. 314 times.

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Thank you very much.

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Other citizens that was to speak during the public hearing on the proposed city budget.

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Any other requests?

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Any other requests?

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Any other requests?

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Hearing none?

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That public hearing is concluded at 535 p.m.

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All right.

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Does the finance director want to answer the question in terms of fund that was raised during the public hearing

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about funds 239 and 240 it's the tax increment financing authority number 2 and number 3.

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Essentially the residence question is sort of starting balance ending balance the revenue and the impact of that.

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Do you up for it?

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So funds 239 and 240.

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They were asking specifically about fund 240, the TIFA number 3, but it's worth noting

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similar impact for fund 239 as well.

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So, for the TIFA number 2 fund 239, projected revenue is 565,000.

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So, the way these funds work is, well, two and two and three are in a fairly significant deficit.

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So, obviously, the expenditures are made up front and then over the life of the bond.

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That's issued associated with it.

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The revenue comes in and the concept is at the end of that, the net fund gets to net zero.

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So the one that was specifically talked about was TIFA 3, so at the end of 2025, so June 30,

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the 2025, the projected deficit is supposed to be approximately $3.1 million in deficit.

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In fiscal year 26, there's a surplus expected to be added of 333,000 to get us to a new deficit of 2.7.

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So it's going to probably actually take 11 more years to get that to a net zero in essence

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with the debt payments continuing as well as the revenue that's expected to come in.

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And just to bounce on that further, the funds that have parentheses around them are

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a negative.

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So do you want to break that down?

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I'll allow that expansion.

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She wants clarity on the debt is issued.

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So 20 plus years ago, when that was issued,

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that would have been a negative 10 to 10 years.

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And then each year, the debt service

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that works down more and more until, whenever that's done,

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it would get to zero, right?

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And we used to have more Tiffa funds or more debt service,

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but the city's emergency manager paid some of them off early on various different bonds, et cetera.

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So it meant that what had been financed over years, they frontloaded it to pay off the debts earlier.

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Yeah, and this is a very, um, a standard way in which Tiffas are accounted for in the state.

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So I mean, we're not doing it unusual here at, uh, fine, all right.

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All right.

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So the public hearing, so number three on the agenda that is concluded, we now are adjournment.

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The time is 538 PM.

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We have a regular city council meeting that starts at 6 o'clock PM and you can find agendas

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outside or post online if you want to follow along.

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It does include opportunities for public comment or agenda address if you want it, but we also will be

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doing another reading of the proposed budget as well.

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With that, could I please have a motion to adjourn this special meeting?

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Move by, Karen to.

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Is there a second?

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Yes.

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Or?

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It's moved by, Pro Tem.

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Karen to the second by Councilman James.

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Here in our discussion, roll call on adjournment.

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Court Doyle.

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Karen to?

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Yes.

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Good evening.

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Yes.

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James.

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McGinnis.

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Yes.

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Parker.

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Yes.

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Thank you for coming out a little bit earlier this afternoon to weigh in and we'll see you at the regular city council meeting starting at 6 p.m.

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to your Pontiac City Council meeting for Tuesday May 20, 2025.

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This is the regular meeting of the City Council. We've already had a special meeting this evening.

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Thank you, those that were able to attend. We are calling this meeting to order at 6 o'clock PM.

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And we turn the floor to Councilman William Parker Jr., to introduce this evening's invocation.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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Invocation will be given this evening by the past of May with us.

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powiedz reality this room.

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We come to unite, thank you for another week and another

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opportunity to get it right.

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We thank you Lord for the green and the beauty of Spurling.

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And Father, we ask that tonight you would be with everything that is

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said and done here that it would be kind, honest,

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full of your wisdom

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guidance and that all be said and done would bring honor and glory to your name to the good

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of this city for we ask it in Jesus name. Amen.

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Please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the

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flag of the United States.

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We now as a community hold a moment of silence remembering a neighbor

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and resident who tragically passed away in recent days at the downtown intersection of

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Sagonal and Huron Streets, Justin James Rotker, lives in Pontiac works in Pontiac and was

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actually doing a good, good Samaritan deed of helping two out-of-town residents who were

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01:05:51,610 --> 01:05:58,340
visiting our downtown and a downtown business to cross that night. And in that process was hit by

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01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:05,460
call. His life was taken and the two young women from out of town, they were seriously injured

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01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:10,060
and they continued to recover. Please join us for a moment of silence to remember, Justin

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James, also often known by the nickname of Jay Rock. Let us remember Justin, as well as pray

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for the recovery and healing of the two young women who were also hit during that census tragic

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written run accident.

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Thank you very much.

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Our condolences to his mother, who's a paniac resident,

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all those who work with them,

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knew him as a friend and a neighbor.

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roll call of city council members, clerk Doyle.

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Carrington.

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Present.

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Goodman.

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Here.

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Beginners.

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Present.

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Parker.

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Here.

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Brotherford.

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01:07:09,010 --> 01:07:10,410
What is it?

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Presenting, how a corner.

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Quorum has been established.

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We do expect Council on the Land of Jones to join us.

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So we will not have a motion to excuse her.

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Right now to prove that the agenda is there such a motion.

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So moved.

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Sir, second.

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Support.

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01:07:24,550 --> 01:07:26,010
It's been moved by Council on Rutherford.

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Seconded by Councilman Parker that we approve this evening's agenda as presented.

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That motion is before us any discussion or amendments.

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01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:38,830
Council on Rutherford?

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01:07:38,830 --> 01:07:44,810
I just wanted to know, once we've on, are we able to read the thing about the prevailing?

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If you'd like to?

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01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:47,870
Yeah, I would.

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01:07:48,070 --> 01:07:49,470
But we're not at consent to anything else.

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Okay, understood.

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01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:51,190
Okay.

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Hearing I think further, roll call, hear no amendments, no discussion.

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Roll call clerk, Doyle, on adoption of the motion of proving the agenda.

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Can you say?

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Yes.

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01:08:02,970 --> 01:08:03,370
Goodman.

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01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:05,030
Yes.

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01:08:05,250 --> 01:08:05,670
James.

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01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:06,550
Yes.

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01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:07,930
Again, yes.

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The motion carries, I will proceed with this evening's agenda first, some public communications.

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We want to give a reminder that the City Council's pride and beautification awards are annual awards process.

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Nominations open, this coming may 23rd, and those nominations are open until June 30.

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So between May 23rd and June 30th, please nominate yourself if you believe you're deserving or a neighbor or a friend family member throughout the city of Pontiac so that the city council can celebrate community members efforts to go the extra mile and add beauty and and well maintained and well manicured

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01:08:52,150 --> 01:08:57,730
This is available for businesses as well if you want to spotlight a business or other

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01:08:57,730 --> 01:09:01,270
community space that you think goes the extra mile.

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01:09:01,590 --> 01:09:03,310
You can contact the city council office.

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01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:04,210
Any questions?

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Each of your city council members can assist.

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We'll have hard copy of the applications in our offices at future city council meetings.

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But you can also access them online.

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01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:19,830
TinyURl.com slash Pontiac Pride and we can get that to you if you need it.

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01:09:19,830 --> 01:09:26,150
So, that's the communication. Make sure you knew about that before our next city council meeting those nominations open.

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Next, the city council is expecting in a matter of days the finalized documents from attorneys for the city of Paniac retiree pension benefits increase that will require city council votes.

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City council is eager to take that action and so as soon as it's been finalized between the respective sides attorneys we will move forward.

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01:09:47,770 --> 01:09:54,030
And we are even if state and ready if it needs, the City Council can call a special meeting

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01:09:54,030 --> 01:10:00,010
and begin those readings and take that action so that way that can be put to bed and that

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01:10:00,010 --> 01:10:05,930
process can move towards conclusion for those retirees and their beneficiaries to receive

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01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:07,770
the increase that we want to make happen.

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01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:13,970
And then finally, a communication later on tonight's agenda, you see an item that we've had

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at the previous few meetings about the potential purchase of a privately owned building at 300

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01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:24,990
rest here on, often known as the former Pontiac Central High School. That's owned by various

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01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:31,150
companies or portions of Lee industrial contracting. They've made it a logistics and warehouse

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01:10:31,150 --> 01:10:38,810
operations. The city is considering that purchase for our public work operations and other city

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01:10:38,810 --> 01:10:43,490
purposes, but we, even though it's on the agenda later tonight, this is just an early heads up.

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We will not be acting on it tonight.

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01:10:45,570 --> 01:10:49,330
We will be postponing it when we get to that part of the agenda, because at the next

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regular city council meeting of June 3rd, or receive a presentation on the proposals merits,

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01:10:55,010 --> 01:10:59,350
or the pros and cons, what to consider, and hold a public hearing as well for residents

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01:10:59,350 --> 01:11:02,090
be able to speak specifically about that proposal.

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So I just want to make sure that housekeeping item was communicated from the jump.

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01:11:06,290 --> 01:11:12,990
All right. Now we're at approval of the consent agenda. Is there a motion? Is there a second?

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01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:20,570
That was a second? Council and rather for moves and Council and Parker seconds. Here's what's included in this evening's consent agenda.

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01:11:21,890 --> 01:11:26,010
A Council or Communication and Engagement Subcommittee Meeting Minutes for April 25.

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01:11:26,770 --> 01:11:30,330
City Council special meeting minutes including closed session Minutes from May 6.

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01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:35,370
City Council regular meeting minutes from May 6, I want to recognize Council in Milana Jones,

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as President and Voting, as on the side.

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D, the May 13 City Council special meeting minutes from our special budget meeting.

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E, resolution recognizing June 10th in the City of Pontiac. F, resolution recognizing

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June as LGBTQ plus Pride Month. G, resolution recognizing June as men's health month.

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H, resolution recognizing June as black music history month.

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01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:06,170
I, resolution naming the performance space that hidden river plaza in honor of the Jones Brothers.

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01:12:07,210 --> 01:12:13,690
J, resolution congratulating Pontiac High School girls soccer team on their OAA gold league championship.

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01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:19,950
This is their team's first ever league championship, and we extend the community's congratulations to them.

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01:12:19,950 --> 01:12:25,970
Okay, resolution-approving contract with city elevator company for municipal elevator servicing,

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so in all of our municipal buildings that have an elevator, this is a service contract for a few years

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01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:33,470
to make sure that they are properly operating.

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01:12:34,330 --> 01:12:40,390
L, resolution-requesting the city attorney to review the matter and provide updated legal opinion to the city council

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01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:46,590
on past development agreements involving the city of Pontiac and Stone Gate Neighborhood Infrastructure.

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And, resolution requesting a administration review and make recommendations on available next

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01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:59,390
steps regarding stone gate neighborhood associations request to the City of Paniac on infrastructure

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01:12:59,390 --> 01:13:06,530
improvements. And, resolution recognizing Mary Elam's good Samaritan deed. Oh, resolution

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01:13:06,530 --> 01:13:10,910
recognizing new birth international churches work in delivering services during the winter.

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01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:16,450
P, resolution-approving city transportation asset management plan or a

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01:13:16,450 --> 01:13:20,610
tamp. And finally, Q, resolution to approve and sign Carlisle

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01:13:20,610 --> 01:13:24,450
workmen and associates contract for temporary plan review services.

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01:13:24,890 --> 01:13:30,030
They'll be providing planning, division support. They have done that in the past.

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01:13:30,250 --> 01:13:33,170
Since there's been a few staff members at the party, we've got to make sure that

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the planning operations don't fall behind. So that's A through Q on the

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call adapts to the consent agenda clerk Doyle. Goodman. Yes. James. Yes. Jones. Yes.

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01:13:51,070 --> 01:13:57,930
The Guinness. Yes. Marker. Yes. Brotherford. Yes. Carrington. Yes. Seven years. No

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01:13:57,930 --> 01:14:02,570
days. That motion carries the consent agenda is adopted. And now during special presentations

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we'll highlight a few of those items from the consent agenda. With that rejection comes

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01:14:07,210 --> 01:14:13,030
I'd rather you want to read into the record what we just adopted in terms of in your district,

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01:14:13,610 --> 01:14:16,290
the Hidden River performance space.

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01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:18,430
All right.

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01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,400
And then afterward, on deck is Ms. Robyn C, the City of Pontiac Special Events Coordinator

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01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,360
will be sharing upcoming signature city events.

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01:14:30,860 --> 01:14:33,160
Before I read this, I just want to give you a little bit of history.

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Why the Johns brothers are so important to this community.

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01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:43,320
The Jones Brothers were the cornerstone of musicianship in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s all the way up to just 2000s.

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And every place across America, they've been recognized for their inquisitiveness.

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,180
They also were in a group called the Jones Boys with Quincy Jones.

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01:14:51,580 --> 01:14:57,380
They played World Nine artists, such as Dizzy Gillespie, the youngest monks, Mao Davis, and a few.

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01:14:58,020 --> 01:14:59,920
In the end, they were born and bred from the city.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,620
And this is the only place that they don't have anything where they recognize. And so this is an honor of them and their family.

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01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:12,520
Pontiac City Council Resolution honoring the legendary Pontiac musicians, Jones Brothers by name,

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01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:15,460
and the performance revealing at Head Member Plaza in their honor.

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,860
Whereas the City of Pontiac Michigan, on an ongoing basis, striast to acknowledge organizations and citizens,

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01:15:20,940 --> 01:15:25,940
whose lives and accomplishments have had profound impact on elevating and inspiring the community.

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01:15:26,660 --> 01:15:29,980
And whereas the Pontiac City Council has had the authority to commemorate a city council,

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01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:32,940
Facility, Street, or any other asset by means of a plaque,

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01:15:33,220 --> 01:15:35,180
name it out there a person or some of the honor,

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,440
and the city at times has bestowed a naming

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01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,480
or renaming of a city facility or property

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01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,900
in memory of a consequential community member.

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01:15:42,980 --> 01:15:45,540
And we're asked Mr. Hank Jones, Mr. Fad Jones,

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01:15:45,860 --> 01:15:47,720
and Mr. Elvin Jones, where brothers,

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,040
compagnetic, Michigan, who went on to create

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,340
to, excuse me, who went on to great international music

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01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:56,160
acclaim and the musical genre of jazz

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,700
and where masters of the piano, the trumpet,

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01:15:58,700 --> 01:16:04,000
and drums respectively, and whereas though they've each since passed away, the Jones brothers were

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01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,400
truly remarkable giants who could say to be considered by many as some of the greatest musicians

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01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,840
to master their respective instruments. And Mr. Hank Jones was presented in the 2009 with a lifetime

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:22,700
achievement award, Grammy Award. And whereas in downtown Pontiac, there's a public city-owned space

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01:16:22,700 --> 01:16:26,800
commonly known as Hidden River, and the existing performance area per billion inside of Hidden River

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01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,400
to not currently have a formal name.

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01:16:29,740 --> 01:16:31,440
Though the idea of naming it after the Jones brother

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01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,520
has been publicly discussed for some time by city council.

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01:16:35,020 --> 01:16:37,540
Now therefore be resolved that the Paniah city council

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01:16:37,540 --> 01:16:39,920
hereby approves the naming of the performance space

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,240
building at the Haven Ridden Plaza and out of the Jones brothers.

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,280
And request the administration to proceed

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01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,300
with establishing a appropriate signage to reflect the prevailing

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01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:51,780
of his new name and further resolve the Paniah city council

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01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:54,560
on behalf of the entire community honors and celebrates

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01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:00,040
the live legacy and the positive impact of Hank, that and Elvin Jones.

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01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:08,720
Thank you. We now move to number one on the agenda and Mayor and Deputy Mayor, if there's

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,580
nothing further, we can directly to the coordinator or anything you want to cue up.

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01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:14,520
All right. Let's see you at the floor.

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:23,060
Good evening. Council administration to all of you here in this hello chambers, as well

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01:17:23,060 --> 01:17:26,000
as everyone who is viewing and are viewing audience.

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:35,980
Good evening to you. I am pleased to announce that our third Thursdays kicked off swimmingly on last Thursday at Hidden River Park with our DJ three way.

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01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:44,160
There were people of all ages present. All walks of life. They played games. They died. They danced.

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,760
They enjoyed outdoor dining from Kegger, Burger,

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01:17:48,980 --> 01:17:51,780
or Fillmore 13 as well as Charlene, Steater Bar.

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01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,840
And addition, dozens of guests tried their hand

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,880
at our pot in paint where they were given pots,

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01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:59,480
and they were able to decorate them

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01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:02,040
and then plant the flower of their choice.

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01:18:02,460 --> 01:18:04,520
I'd like to thank everyone who came out,

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01:18:04,540 --> 01:18:07,960
those of you on council that I saw, councilwoman,

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01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:11,440
Brotherford, council president, council pro town.

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01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:12,680
Thank you so much for stopping by.

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,860
And I hope everyone enjoyed the fun, the fellowship, and the food.

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01:18:16,980 --> 01:18:22,480
Our music in the parks, these are just some of the pictures from our outdoor gathering.

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01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:23,660
The weather was wonderful.

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01:18:24,020 --> 01:18:25,680
Downtown Paniak was a buzz.

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01:18:26,140 --> 01:18:29,880
There were events at Treasury, Crawford, Sunset Island.

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,060
It was just a vibe all day, one Thursday, part of me.

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:39,200
Our music in the parks concert series kicks off in just under two weeks, seven shows and

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,460
seven parks and seven districts.

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01:18:40,460 --> 01:18:46,800
all concerts are held on Thursday night at 7 p.m. The music in the

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,960
part concert series kicks off on Thursday, June 5th at Galaway Lake Park

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,920
featuring Detroit Centrics with special guests, no boundaries quartet.

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And we'll be hosted by none other than our very own honorable councilman, William Parker.

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01:19:02,980 --> 01:19:08,340
We hope that you all will join us. Remember to bring a lawn share and we will see you there.

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:17,060
Next Saturday, June 14th is our third annual city of Pontiac, Juneteenth Freedom Day Parade and Festival.

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:23,240
The parade begins at 3 p.m., line up for the parade, which registration is required

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01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,040
for the parade.

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Line up begins at 1.30 at Chamberlain Street and Perry.

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01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:34,440
The parade will travel southbound on Perry Street to University, West on University to

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01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:39,640
second off and south on Saginaw Street down to fund for the whole family.

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,720
At 430, the festival would kick off with Quincy Stewart, followed by Polyester Playas,

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01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,460
Groove Session, the best you've ever had, Larry Lee and back in the day will close it

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01:19:50,460 --> 01:19:52,240
out during our fireworks presentation.

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01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:56,680
There will be live music, DJs, food, karaoke, vendors.

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01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,220
We have 50 plus vendors already registered.

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01:20:00,220 --> 01:20:25,760
Our kids on will have a high ropes course put, put, put, go off video game trucks, mobile bowling, face painting, fun for the whole family, parade information, contact Brenda Jay Carter, 29 of gmail.com, vendor information, Pontiac, Juneteenth at gmail.com and any other information regarding the event, please contact me at rc at Pontiac.mi.us,

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01:20:28,060 --> 01:20:31,480
then on June 19th, we ask you to save the day.

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01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:34,880
This is our second of five third Thursday events.

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It's our future forward community 1865.

692
01:20:38,860 --> 01:20:41,760
Please save the day that's going to be a community event held down

693
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,320
town more details to follow.

694
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:50,180
Next June 26th, Priscilla Price, with special guest free style

695
01:20:50,180 --> 01:20:52,280
ban at J.C. Park.

696
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,980
And that will be hosted by none other than our Honourable

697
01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:57,260
Catholic Councilwoman Catholic James.

698
01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:01,060
Those are our events for the month of June.

699
01:21:01,460 --> 01:21:06,860
I hope that you will allow me to come back and extend an invitation to our festivities

700
01:21:06,860 --> 01:21:08,380
for the remainder of the summer.

701
01:21:08,980 --> 01:21:10,000
Are there any questions?

702
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:12,840
Questions are feedback?

703
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:13,320
Councilman.

704
01:21:13,540 --> 01:21:14,040
Yes.

705
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,580
So first of all, it was an amazing event.

706
01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:20,840
I had a great good old time, but I have a question for the administration.

707
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,780
Why wasn't this event advertised because it was only posted once on our Facebook page?

708
01:21:26,780 --> 01:21:29,620
It wasn't posted on our YouTube, and I believe you have,

709
01:21:29,780 --> 01:21:31,960
I'm talking about the original one we just had with it.

710
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,160
Why wasn't it posted or properly promoted?

711
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:38,140
The proper men's people didn't know about it,

712
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,220
so that's why we didn't get the guys.

713
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:40,560
And now we got about a hundred people,

714
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:41,900
because I was there on a day.

715
01:21:42,180 --> 01:21:45,080
But we got to do better to promote, not just the Mother's Day event,

716
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,520
not just the five-day event, not just the youth services,

717
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,020
but also promote what Miss Seas doing,

718
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,640
because she's doing it by herself and doing a dang on good job.

719
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,800
So I yield to the administration to get some understanding

720
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,820
and why it wasn't promoted properly, anybody?

721
01:21:59,280 --> 01:21:59,900
Mayor of Deptember.

722
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:09,020
I have no comment I will look into that and make sure that we get the other events more

723
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,120
coverage.

724
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,440
Thank you so much.

725
01:22:12,860 --> 01:22:17,540
For the questions and feedback, thank you to the community members that have begun coming

726
01:22:17,540 --> 01:22:17,840
out.

727
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:23,420
Please rally around these are your events for you and delivered by you.

728
01:22:23,420 --> 01:22:30,400
You know, these are Pontiac vendors, Pontiac performers, and thank you, Miss Robin, for the work you've done growing them.

729
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:39,800
You saw some of the visuals, but I also want to thank April Ag, who's part of the team, that understand that she don't need a lot of the materials for that.

730
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,240
Yeah, along with Goldner Walsh,

731
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,020
she has, thank you to Apro, Natalie Broda did the photography

732
01:22:44,540 --> 01:22:47,880
and Apro spearheaded the pot and paint.

733
01:22:47,980 --> 01:22:50,640
So she gave residents ideas, templates,

734
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,660
so they were able to use fabrics and jewels and beads

735
01:22:53,660 --> 01:22:56,280
and paint, and it was an amazing experience.

736
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,180
So yes, thank you.

737
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,180
And then Tim Traverson Goldner Walsh provided flower action.

738
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:00,840
They did.

739
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:01,860
Yes.

740
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,220
All right, so if you want to go back to that side

741
01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:08,340
if it works, yep, and then give you the floor.

742
01:23:08,340 --> 01:23:14,420
but so that last slide had all the things to comment with anyone wants to grab that.

743
01:23:15,460 --> 01:23:38,320
There are, the dates will be posted, but the dates for the music in the parks, as I said, are on all on Thursdays, so June 5th, Galaway Lake, June 26th, JC Park, July 10th, Rotary Park, July 31st, Oakland Park, August 7th, North Carolina, August 28th, Murphy Park, September 4th,

744
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:39,900
We'll be about that park.

745
01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:41,100
Thank you.

746
01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:42,460
Any final questions or feedback?

747
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:43,200
I'm sorry.

748
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,620
Yes, Mayor Granwell.

749
01:23:46,330 --> 01:23:47,530
Well, we're still looking into this.

750
01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:56,050
But it looks like we did do two or three videos on music in the parks, as well as the summer programs.

751
01:23:57,050 --> 01:24:03,070
Not sure if we're asking about the specific event third Thursday.

752
01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:07,270
So we're still trying to track that down.

753
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:13,310
I think the video is the reference summer programs included Thursdays, but I'll dig in deeper

754
01:24:13,310 --> 01:24:14,110
and find out.

755
01:24:14,410 --> 01:24:15,270
Thank you.

756
01:24:16,450 --> 01:24:16,530
Yeah.

757
01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:17,330
Here and nothing further.

758
01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:19,230
I just thank you very much.

759
01:24:20,450 --> 01:24:20,970
Oh, I'm sorry.

760
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:22,390
Councilman James, that's something further.

761
01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:29,330
Well, I just wanted to comment that I think maybe we have had a lot of social media.

762
01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:36,210
The videos and everything were great, but sometimes it's good to just get hard signs out.

763
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:39,610
And we used to put a large sign right there

764
01:24:39,610 --> 01:24:42,510
at the corner of wide track and orchard lake,

765
01:24:42,990 --> 01:24:45,590
which is kind of like a real key area.

766
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:51,250
We used to put large signs out to publicize things

767
01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:51,890
that are happening.

768
01:24:52,090 --> 01:24:55,510
We used to have the thing that was right over the Phoenix Center

769
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:58,750
that you could announce things.

770
01:24:59,690 --> 01:25:03,310
But we're really doing a good job with social media.

771
01:25:03,310 --> 01:25:18,670
But it would really help if we could figure out a way to get some hard signs out in the neighborhood, particularly in District 4, because I noticed that my residents just simply are not aware of the things that are happening in downtown.

772
01:25:18,710 --> 01:25:23,750
I would love to be able to get more district 4 residents involved in the things that are happening downtown.

773
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:35,510
But I think getting signs in these various districts and neighborhoods would support and enhance what is already being done.

774
01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:43,690
And if Council can do anything to help with that, if our individual districts can do anything to help with that, I think I'd like to see that happen.

775
01:25:44,210 --> 01:25:53,530
Thank you. I appreciate that feedback is noted. And thank you for the invitation to your district meeting. I'll be happy to come and extend a personal invitation to your constituents.

776
01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:55,370
that you want to say as well. Thank you.

777
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:55,490
Thank you.

778
01:25:55,670 --> 01:25:56,190
Comments will not hurt.

779
01:25:56,230 --> 01:25:57,490
Don't want to belabor the issue.

780
01:25:57,690 --> 01:25:59,070
But I do have a question for the administration.

781
01:25:59,550 --> 01:26:04,110
Is there a budget that's strictly done for promotions throughout the year for projects?

782
01:26:04,350 --> 01:26:07,010
And if so, can we find a new opportunity with the line out of me?

783
01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:10,150
The reason why I'm asking is because I just want equal playing field.

784
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:14,210
So I want to know what's the number down our mountain we spend on promoting our events.

785
01:26:14,490 --> 01:26:15,770
I can go to the administration.

786
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:22,370
I don't think we have a separate line item for that versus our overall communications department budget.

787
01:26:22,370 --> 01:26:30,050
But I do just want to say that actually, in terms of third Thursdays, they were posted within the summer events.

788
01:26:31,550 --> 01:26:41,810
On Facebook, it had 3.7,000 views, and it was posted two weeks ago, and then reposted a week after that.

789
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:47,410
I'm sorry, it was posted three weeks ago, then a week later, and then additionally right before the event.

790
01:26:47,410 --> 01:26:53,510
in terms of these videos and post things for summer events that included Thursday, so I'm not sure what your efforts are.

791
01:26:53,670 --> 01:26:55,770
So, I mean, I don't want to belabor it, but I-

792
01:26:55,770 --> 01:26:56,370
Man, I have a recommendation.

793
01:26:56,490 --> 01:26:57,130
Okay, I'm sorry.

794
01:26:57,370 --> 01:26:59,390
Um, so we've got to move on.

795
01:26:59,670 --> 01:27:01,050
You've spoken for three times.

796
01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:02,350
Oh, it's okay. I'll get it later.

797
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:02,890
All right.

798
01:27:03,670 --> 01:27:07,550
So, um, we are out talking on upcoming special events.

799
01:27:07,850 --> 01:27:10,650
Thank you for your presentation.

800
01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:12,390
All right.

801
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:16,410
The next is a very brief special presentation,

802
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:19,830
submitted what Councilor Rutherford shared a resolution

803
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:23,570
that we just adopted on the consent agenda,

804
01:27:23,730 --> 01:27:26,430
recognizing Pontiac Good Samaritan Mary-Elam.

805
01:27:27,210 --> 01:27:30,830
She is watching from home, but we want to make sure

806
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:34,610
that she and the community hears the city's gratitude.

807
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:36,590
So here's the resolution.

808
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:40,070
Whereas the city of Pontiac is blessed to have citizens

809
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:44,910
who go above and beyond to look out for their neighbors, to help one another, and to strive

810
01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:47,670
to strengthen our neighborhoods and the bonds that keep us together.

811
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:53,550
And whereas Ms. Mary Elam of Pure Sol Avenue is a longtime Pontiac resident and senior

812
01:27:53,550 --> 01:27:57,810
citizen who is over 90 years old, though you wouldn't know it when you see her.

813
01:27:58,230 --> 01:28:03,430
And whereas Ms. Elam was extraordinarily perceptive in detecting a recent gas leak in her

814
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:08,430
neighborhood, alerting the authorities and assuring that the problem was to be resolved.

815
01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:18,590
And, whereas, thanks to her quick thinking and her good Samaritan deed, she helped prevent illness, injury, death, and destruction that could have followed.

816
01:28:19,390 --> 01:28:27,690
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the members of the Paniac City Council, the Mayor of Paniac, and members of this great community hereby express our gratitude,

817
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:33,470
and appreciation to Ms. Mary Elam for going above and beyond to help others as a good Samaritan.

818
01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:48,030
And further resolved, we are cheering on Missileum as she continues to give back to our community and help her neighbors and we encourage all of our residents of all ages to strive toward Missileum's strong example of being a good Samaritan.

819
01:28:48,670 --> 01:28:55,410
So for Missileum watching at home, can you please join me in a round of applause, saluting, and we

820
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:00,660
will be delivering.

821
01:29:00,660 --> 01:29:06,300
Council, and this is a constituent of Council on Rutherford on the City Council will be delivering

822
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:13,140
a framed copy of the resolution soon to miss Elam and her family. Any discussion on that

823
01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:19,080
special presentation? Thank you again and congratulations for going above and beyond.

824
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:24,580
We're at number three special presentation, City Council is a doctor of resolution recognizing

825
01:29:24,580 --> 01:29:29,440
new birth international church. I'm going to give the floor to Councilman James who helped

826
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,560
off to this resolution to read what we have adopted.

827
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,040
Yes, this is to recognize the new birth and

828
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:43,340
international church for their work back in the winter when we were short spaces.

829
01:29:43,740 --> 01:29:46,080
Everyone knows that we had a horrendous winter.

830
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:53,240
And there was a real need to get people off of the street in into places where they were safe.

831
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,280
a new birth was willing to open their doors to make that happen.

832
01:29:57,440 --> 01:29:59,060
So the resolution is as follows.

833
01:29:59,760 --> 01:29:59,960
Whereas.

834
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,080
The Pontiac Community face the challenging winner, whether emergency in early 2025, leaving vulnerable citizens

835
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:13,420
in urgent need of services, shelter, and support, and whereas new birth international church,

836
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:19,620
under the compassionate leadership of Bishop Theresa Y. Lee, opened its doors without hesitation,

837
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:24,740
embodying the belief that a church should extend beyond its walls to serve the community.

838
01:30:24,740 --> 01:30:31,420
And whereas Bishop Theresa Wiley responded to this community crises with unwavering dedication,

839
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:35,800
demonstrating her deep commitment to caring for those in need.

840
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:42,860
And inspiring others to follow her lead and the emergency services at New Birth International Church,

841
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:47,780
ran from January 6, 2025 to March 1, 2025.

842
01:30:48,260 --> 01:30:53,780
And whereas Michelle Jones, a devoted member of New Birth and Season Advocate for the Homeless,

843
01:30:53,780 --> 01:31:00,380
was called upon by visually to direct the emergency services operations who drew upon her extensive

844
01:31:00,380 --> 01:31:06,640
experience as director of emergency services at Lighthouse of Oakland County, utilizing

845
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:13,140
her expertise in case management and public relations to organize and sustain the services

846
01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:19,640
ensuring a well-being of every individual who walk through the doors and whereas numerous

847
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:25,540
community agencies, organizations, churches, and individuals came together in an extraordinary

848
01:31:25,540 --> 01:31:31,920
demonstration of unity and compassion, providing resources, time, and support to uphold

849
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,480
the shelter's mission and care for our most vulnerable citizens.

850
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:41,400
Therefore, be it resolved that the Pontiac City Council does hereby commend and extend our

851
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:47,320
deepest gratitude to Bishop Teresa Wiedley, Mrs. Charlotte Jones, New Birth and National

852
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:53,440
church and all of the community partners who contributed to the success of the temporary emergency

853
01:31:53,440 --> 01:32:02,260
services during the 2025 winter weather season and resolved that this resolution stands as

854
01:32:02,260 --> 01:32:08,140
a testament to the power of community, faith and collective goodwill. A reminder that when

855
01:32:08,140 --> 01:32:13,840
people come together with love and purpose, they can make a profound difference in the lives

856
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:14,400
of others.

857
01:32:14,860 --> 01:32:17,360
Plenty of City Council may 2025.

858
01:32:18,740 --> 01:32:22,680
Thank you very much and thank you for making sure that that resolution came together.

859
01:32:23,220 --> 01:32:29,100
I want to especially acknowledge Councilman Parker who helped lead on this matter.

860
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:37,000
One of the five priorities of the City Council this year is dealing with emergency preparedness,

861
01:32:37,860 --> 01:32:42,500
emergency interventions and Councilman Parker sacrifice greatly to make sure that the City

862
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:47,340
Council's objectives for a delivered, Council and Rutherford worked extremely hard,

863
01:32:47,620 --> 01:32:52,000
pretend Karynton was supportive, all of the city council members in different ways in

864
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,940
terms of our votes and an outreach and advocacy of a played a role, but I want

865
01:32:56,940 --> 01:33:02,260
to especially acknowledge how much time use sacrifice, Councilman Parker, to help

866
01:33:02,260 --> 01:33:06,180
partner with New Birth on this initiative, as there anything further you want to

867
01:33:06,180 --> 01:33:07,300
elaborate on.

868
01:33:09,140 --> 01:33:10,900
Any further discussion on this special presentation?

869
01:33:13,790 --> 01:33:19,790
All right. Finally, our final special presentation. We want to share this with the community

870
01:33:19,790 --> 01:33:23,690
before we had public comment so that way you could weigh in further or offer perspective

871
01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:30,390
based on what's been shared. But it's been a big priority for the city government to get our

872
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:35,670
master plan updated. We are wrapping up that process. This will not be voted on tonight. This

873
01:33:35,670 --> 01:33:39,590
will be the first of two readings. It doesn't require that. We just want to get more opportunity

874
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:44,310
for the public to see it and share their feedback and perspectives.

875
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:48,130
This will be back before us on June 3rd as well.

876
01:33:48,410 --> 01:33:53,410
We get the floor to the mayor administration to introduce the special presentation by the team.

877
01:33:54,350 --> 01:33:54,730
Thank you.

878
01:33:55,010 --> 01:34:00,470
This has been a long and very thorough and inclusive process.

879
01:34:00,770 --> 01:34:04,430
I want to thank First and foremost, our planning manager, Mark Andrick.

880
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:06,810
he's poured his heart and soul into this,

881
01:34:06,810 --> 01:34:11,470
all allow him to recap just how many opportunities for public input

882
01:34:11,470 --> 01:34:13,310
there have been in terms of the quantity,

883
01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:16,250
but I know there have been dozens of opportunities,

884
01:34:16,970 --> 01:34:19,290
and that's included in person town halls.

885
01:34:19,690 --> 01:34:22,150
It's included work sessions.

886
01:34:22,630 --> 01:34:26,770
It's included virtual opportunities to weigh in

887
01:34:26,770 --> 01:34:28,630
without people having to leave their homes.

888
01:34:29,230 --> 01:34:30,890
So there have been lots of opportunities,

889
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:34,190
also included written comments and online comments.

890
01:34:34,190 --> 01:34:38,230
So there have been lots and lots of opportunities and I know we've heard from hundreds and hundreds

891
01:34:38,230 --> 01:34:43,030
of residents about what they wanted to see in this master plan.

892
01:34:43,470 --> 01:34:48,950
I also want to thank City Council members who were very involved in the process as well

893
01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:54,390
and have shared their thoughts and we've been able to incorporate some of those recommendations

894
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:57,070
and thoughts in the plan as well.

895
01:34:57,730 --> 01:35:00,770
This has been a long time coming as well.

896
01:35:00,770 --> 01:35:03,810
only did the process take nine plus months.

897
01:35:03,850 --> 01:35:07,070
I think 10 or 11 months to make sure that we really came up

898
01:35:07,070 --> 01:35:08,110
with the best product.

899
01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:11,850
But it's been a long time since the city updated

900
01:35:11,850 --> 01:35:16,070
as master plan has been over 10 years since the city did anything

901
01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:17,530
to update the master plan.

902
01:35:17,770 --> 01:35:20,010
And so it was something that we recognized

903
01:35:20,010 --> 01:35:24,610
as very important that manager Yandrick put a lot of thought

904
01:35:24,610 --> 01:35:27,990
into along with the consultant who will be introduced here.

905
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:34,410
and as a result after more than 10 years of not properly updating the city plan, we think

906
01:35:34,410 --> 01:35:40,510
that we've delivered a really strong product, I know it's gone, before the Planning Commission,

907
01:35:40,730 --> 01:35:46,230
which was enthusiastic about it, we hope that the city council will be enthusiastic about it.

908
01:35:46,290 --> 01:35:49,750
And most importantly, we hope the community will be enthusiastic about it.

909
01:35:49,950 --> 01:35:53,750
So without further ado, I want to turn it over to Planning Manager Mark Andrew.

910
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:54,910
Thank you, Mayor.

911
01:35:55,330 --> 01:35:56,430
And I want to echo this comments.

912
01:35:56,590 --> 01:35:57,710
I don't need to repeat them.

913
01:35:58,050 --> 01:35:59,810
There's a lot that's been put into this.

914
01:36:00,170 --> 01:36:04,810
One of the things that I've said in many, many times, is that this master plan needs to be

915
01:36:04,810 --> 01:36:07,650
foundational that the city can build upon it.

916
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:13,370
It needs to be respected and get the buy-in from the community and it needs to be attainable

917
01:36:14,250 --> 01:36:19,490
that as city officials, the public servants that I am and the rest of us are, that we can

918
01:36:19,930 --> 01:36:23,450
attend these goals working with our community and working with our partners.

919
01:36:24,490 --> 01:36:26,350
I'm going to pass it over to McKenna.

920
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:30,330
John Jackson, the president is here, and also Ashley Jenkowski.

921
01:36:30,770 --> 01:36:36,270
They will be given the presentation about how we got to this point, but also the details about the plan itself.

922
01:36:36,490 --> 01:36:38,990
So with no further ado, you can come to the podium.

923
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:40,110
Thank you.

924
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:44,200
Thank you, Mark.

925
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:50,380
Good evening.

926
01:36:50,380 --> 01:36:57,600
to be here tonight to share this important project with you, as the Mayor pointed out,

927
01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:02,060
there's been a lot of public participation in this project.

928
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:07,340
A lot of people have voiced their opinions and provided us input.

929
01:37:07,460 --> 01:37:14,440
It was really a listening exercise on our part that has led us to this stage in the project.

930
01:37:14,440 --> 01:37:20,940
And of course, lots of thanks to Mark and his team who have been instrumental in shepherding

931
01:37:20,940 --> 01:37:27,060
this project through a very robust process that I think will serve the City of Pineyak

932
01:37:27,060 --> 01:37:33,180
Well for the next five years, before the next time you get to review the master plan,

933
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:41,300
but over the course of that five years, really support the city's efforts to make progress

934
01:37:41,300 --> 01:37:49,600
implementing the ideas that are in this plan. So with that I'm going to do an overview, and then

935
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:54,420
I also want to thank our team at McKenna, obviously Ashley, Junkowski, is here and she's going

936
01:37:54,420 --> 01:37:59,300
to help with the presentations and I'm giving you an update on what's changed since the last time

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01:37:59,300 --> 01:38:05,940
we saw the plan, but really there's a lot of effort from our team at McKenna. I want to thank all of

938
01:38:05,940 --> 01:38:08,340
for the effort that went into this as well.

939
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:15,700
So, as I mentioned, this master plan is really the foundation for a lot of efforts to come.

940
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:20,880
It's the basis for your zoning and as you'll hear a little bit later on, that's one of the

941
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:25,980
recommendations from this plan is that you update your zoning ordinance to align with this plan,

942
01:38:26,220 --> 01:38:33,100
so that the outcomes that you get from everyday planning and zoning activities furthers the

943
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:34,560
ideas that are in this plan.

944
01:38:36,620 --> 01:38:43,280
Again, to reiterate, there was a lot of, this plan was really based on public engagement

945
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,700
and listening and having a dialogue.

946
01:38:46,620 --> 01:38:51,780
There were a number of stakeholder groups, residential subcommittees, a downtown subcommittee,

947
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:57,420
commercial subcommittees, so subcommittees that were put together to focus on issues that

948
01:38:57,420 --> 01:39:01,300
were identified early on as important to the success of this project.

949
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:11,110
public engagement activities were extensive, all kinds of community workshops, virtual webinars,

950
01:39:11,630 --> 01:39:17,490
sort of podcast, type formats where people can participate remotely, ask questions,

951
01:39:18,190 --> 01:39:21,990
and then those things lived on the city's website.

952
01:39:22,370 --> 01:39:28,670
So everyone could have the opportunity to review those and see the conversations that we're

953
01:39:28,670 --> 01:39:31,190
going on throughout the course of the project.

954
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:38,750
more public engagement activities, lots of listening, lots of conversations.

955
01:39:42,020 --> 01:39:49,900
These were, to someone's point earlier, these were written surveys, online surveys, and

956
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:51,200
in-person conversations.

957
01:39:52,140 --> 01:39:58,120
So we tried to touch every type of interaction we could to give people with different preferences,

958
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,700
different ways to participate in the process.

959
01:40:04,650 --> 01:40:12,830
So, what are the main things that comes out of this process in this listening in this dialogue is a shared vision?

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01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:18,250
In the vision is that the City of Paniak will continue to be the heart of Volklon County.

961
01:40:20,170 --> 01:40:32,470
And aim to celebrate elements of the city's rich history while embracing and adapting to modern needs and innovations, fostering a dynamic, innovative and inclusive environment for all.

962
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:38,030
Inclusive was a term that was mentioned earlier, and really what this plan strived to do as well as

963
01:40:38,690 --> 01:40:41,830
focusing on the assets the history of a community

964
01:40:42,670 --> 01:40:49,830
While looking ahead as well, what are the opportunities for the city to continue to evolve and thrive for everyone in the lives here

965
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:58,880
When we started this project, it was made very clear to us that the city wanted to focus on seven key issues

966
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,780
future land use

967
01:41:00,780 --> 01:41:10,640
housing in neighborhoods, development, and redevelopment, obviously, pine axon mature community and redevelopment comes with its own set of challenges.

968
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:17,300
So that was one of the years we focused on historic preservation, the assets, cultural assets of the community.

969
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:29,460
Downtown and commercial corridors, transportation, making it safe for everyone to get through the community both on vehicles, as well as bikes, as well as walking.

970
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:35,280
And then workforce development, how can we create opportunities for people to be gainfully employed

971
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,520
here in Paniak and improve their quality of life?

972
01:41:38,580 --> 01:41:44,220
These were the seven main tenants of this plan as we went through the process.

973
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,700
This plan is unique.

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01:41:48,820 --> 01:41:54,860
We've worked on hundreds of master plans at McKenna, but this plan is unique.

975
01:41:54,860 --> 01:42:04,540
It's unique in that each chapter is organized with the overall vision in mind, key community engagement findings.

976
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:10,060
So when we had these conversations, we asked people about those seven key focus areas.

977
01:42:10,580 --> 01:42:15,780
And those findings are explicitly articulated in the planet itself.

978
01:42:16,300 --> 01:42:22,460
There's specific focus areas where redevelopment opportunities and investment opportunities are identified

979
01:42:22,460 --> 01:42:29,620
in maps throughout the plan, and again, each section has a clearly stated goal, objective,

980
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:38,060
and targeted action plan. Each chapter has actions intended to advance the plan over the course

981
01:42:38,060 --> 01:42:44,300
of the next several years. So I'm going to briefly go through each of the chapters and I'm

982
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:49,400
going to spend a lot of time on each one of these. Obviously I encourage everyone to dig into the plan

983
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:53,540
and look at it so you can get behind it, embrace it,

984
01:42:53,540 --> 01:42:57,000
and be a champion of this plan over the next several years.

985
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,640
So the future land use included goal for creating

986
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,080
opportunities for people to use and improve their neighborhoods

987
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:07,040
for improved public health and creating generational wealth.

988
01:43:07,420 --> 01:43:09,740
So again, a way of land use patterns

989
01:43:09,740 --> 01:43:14,000
to encourage reinvestment for the people who live here in the community.

990
01:43:18,700 --> 01:43:21,620
Housing neighborhoods strengthen residential neighborhoods

991
01:43:21,620 --> 01:43:26,160
with infill housing and new amenities to be a place for everyone to thrive.

992
01:43:27,060 --> 01:43:32,440
So again, investment within the neighborhoods, five the neighborhoods to create opportunities

993
01:43:32,440 --> 01:43:37,720
in the neighborhoods for people to really raise their their quality of life and create

994
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:38,820
additional opportunities,

995
01:43:42,420 --> 01:43:45,840
development, development and redevelopment, attract and actualize

996
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:51,420
new office, retail, commercial, and mixed use development that aims to serve and bright

997
01:43:51,420 --> 01:44:00,540
opportunities to panic residents. Again, not making redevelopment this far off concept that

998
01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:06,880
people from outside the community have to participate in. There are opportunities in this

999
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:12,920
plan for people within the neighborhoods and within the city to invest themselves and become

1000
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:18,840
even more part of the success of the community moving forward. The historic preservation

1001
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,940
and prioritize and promote the preservation

1002
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:23,280
of Pontiac's historic buildings, places,

1003
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,060
people and events to promote legacy inclusion

1004
01:44:26,060 --> 01:44:27,000
and opportunity.

1005
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,740
In this chapter, we went beyond the strict concepts

1006
01:44:32,740 --> 01:44:33,900
of historic preservation

1007
01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:38,160
and looked at other locally important assets,

1008
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,340
places, spaces that have been a long part

1009
01:44:42,340 --> 01:44:46,900
of Pontiac's development history to build on those

1010
01:44:46,900 --> 01:44:53,960
assets as value added assets for the community that could serve the community while moving forward.

1011
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:59,980
Downtown and commercial corridors. Of course, Downtown Pinyac is a key.

1012
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:15,080
The major asset for the community strengthened downtown as a cultural and economic hub in a way that invites residents and the workforce in the city to live, work, play, and stay in downtown, and in a way that improves connection to neighborhoods.

1013
01:45:16,180 --> 01:45:25,500
Downtown serves a very specific function. It brings people with throughout the community together, throughout the region, together really in an open county and beyond.

1014
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:33,520
So this chapter really focused on how we can create ways to make downtown even more vibrant,

1015
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,440
create more opportunities for people to move and live in downtown.

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01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:45,860
So it becomes more of a, you know, 18 hour place for people to be into thrive.

1017
01:45:48,810 --> 01:45:53,630
Transportation, I mentioned earlier, here we wanted to strengthen opportunities for mobility

1018
01:45:53,630 --> 01:45:57,530
and the quality of transportation experience is available in Piney Act.

1019
01:45:57,930 --> 01:46:02,950
So again, people driving through the community, riding their bikes, walking, taking public

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01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:11,210
transportation in between public transportation and getting to that next stop.

1021
01:46:11,670 --> 01:46:18,290
How can we bridge those gaps and provide those opportunities and make it a way that people

1022
01:46:18,290 --> 01:46:24,610
can enjoy, feel safe, and experience Piniac in a positive way.

1023
01:46:27,670 --> 01:46:32,510
Workforce development, develop a communication network between local employers and residents

1024
01:46:32,510 --> 01:46:35,850
to facilitate access to educational employment opportunities.

1025
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:43,210
So again, this chapter really focused on opportunities for people that live here in Piniac

1026
01:46:43,210 --> 01:46:48,550
to improve their quality of life, either through additional employment opportunities, training

1027
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:50,690
opportunities, investment opportunities.

1028
01:46:51,610 --> 01:46:57,990
And one of the interesting specific targets in this chapter, and again this is something that

1029
01:46:57,990 --> 01:47:03,890
makes this planning unique, one of the specific targets in this chapter was that the quality

1030
01:47:03,890 --> 01:47:10,810
of life indicators increased at a more rapid area in Pontiac than surrounding areas.

1031
01:47:10,890 --> 01:47:16,890
That was the goal between now and 2040, so the idea was to outpace the improvement of quality

1032
01:47:16,890 --> 01:47:21,090
life for people throughout old and county and other communities around Piniac.

1033
01:47:21,210 --> 01:47:27,010
So that was a very unique, challenging target that came out of this plan.

1034
01:47:28,610 --> 01:47:36,030
So with that, I'm going to turn over to Ashley to talk about the changes that come out

1035
01:47:36,030 --> 01:47:43,210
of the 63-day review period as well as that we got from the Planning Commission.

1036
01:47:44,150 --> 01:47:46,550
Thanks, John, and thanks for having us tonight.

1037
01:47:46,890 --> 01:47:52,070
So since we were last at Council, there was a 63-day public comment period where we posted

1038
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:55,370
a draft version of Vision Paniac on the website.

1039
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:59,350
They were available at City Hall and that gave everyone in the community the opportunity

1040
01:47:59,830 --> 01:48:03,830
to weigh in with their thoughts, tell us what we got right, tell us what could be added to make

1041
01:48:03,830 --> 01:48:08,190
it a bit better, and so I'm going to walk you through what we heard and what we did to address

1042
01:48:08,190 --> 01:48:09,110
some of those comments.

1043
01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:15,490
So first we heard a lot of praise for Vision Paniac as a quote from our community member.

1044
01:48:16,330 --> 01:48:21,670
This reads the plan is comprehensive and addresses the areas of most importance to the residents

1045
01:48:21,670 --> 01:48:24,290
to ensure our bright future for this amazing city.

1046
01:48:24,770 --> 01:48:29,190
We received a lot of compliments on the high level of detail in the plan that it was beautiful

1047
01:48:29,190 --> 01:48:31,050
that it was graphically rich.

1048
01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:36,610
Folks appreciated the strong focus on small scale development, the focus on quality housing

1049
01:48:36,610 --> 01:48:42,650
in neighborhoods and the ability of the plant to really focus on Paniac's history while also building

1050
01:48:42,650 --> 01:48:47,010
a foundation for the future people and for pedestrians.

1051
01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:53,650
This plan was also shared out in its draft form to neighboring jurisdictions and we got

1052
01:48:53,650 --> 01:48:59,050
some positive feedback from those folks as well. Specifically, Oakland County mentioned

1053
01:48:59,050 --> 01:49:04,470
that vision Paniac's goals, objectives and actions are driven by public participation

1054
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:13,350
and that the plan works to effectively expand diverse housing options, advanced historic preservation, environmental sustainability, and simplifies zoning districts.

1055
01:49:14,150 --> 01:49:19,350
The Michigan Economic Development Corporation also complimented the graphically rich nature of the plan,

1056
01:49:20,190 --> 01:49:25,970
the way in which it educates readers, and some of the really strong economic development strategies that were incorporated.

1057
01:49:27,850 --> 01:49:33,790
Some areas that we heard from the community where we needed to adjust the plans content,

1058
01:49:34,430 --> 01:49:38,410
folks were looking for a little bit of a more focused on natural features, resilience

1059
01:49:38,410 --> 01:49:39,470
and open space.

1060
01:49:39,610 --> 01:49:44,510
There were some parcels on the future land use map that individuals were hoping could

1061
01:49:44,510 --> 01:49:45,130
change.

1062
01:49:46,090 --> 01:49:48,730
We had a request for clear map colors and legends.

1063
01:49:49,770 --> 01:49:54,630
A continued focus on quality housing, affordable senior housing, home ownership and maintenance

1064
01:49:54,630 --> 01:50:02,290
of historic homes, and the final opportunity was pushed for downtown specific planning as a

1065
01:50:02,290 --> 01:50:06,790
part of something that's coming out of this master plan, as well as a focus on family

1066
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:12,030
friendly businesses getting those downtown making downtown a really fun family friendly

1067
01:50:12,030 --> 01:50:18,730
intergenerational place to be. So here's what we changed after that 63-day period and after

1068
01:50:18,730 --> 01:50:22,770
you know these conversations that we've had with planning commission and city council,

1069
01:50:22,770 --> 01:50:29,070
The plan has incorporated a natural feature section in the introduction of the plan.

1070
01:50:29,470 --> 01:50:33,950
It included the goal of adopting and aligning to the Oakland County Hazard mitigation plan.

1071
01:50:34,410 --> 01:50:40,090
There are a lot of other resiliency and environmentally-friendly related actions throughout the plan,

1072
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:43,890
and every single chapter, and this section really compliments that.

1073
01:50:44,050 --> 01:50:52,370
The future downtown section has been updated to reflect the city's intention to use this master plan as a launching point for future downtown specific planning.

1074
01:50:52,370 --> 01:50:57,670
family, family, businesses have been called out as a specific land use that is encouraged

1075
01:50:57,670 --> 01:51:04,330
in these downtown areas and all maps and legends have been updated for visual clarity.

1076
01:51:05,710 --> 01:51:09,370
Specifically on the future land use map, which is on page 19 of the plan, but we also

1077
01:51:09,370 --> 01:51:11,430
have large copies of it today.

1078
01:51:12,110 --> 01:51:20,450
The golf course has been classified as civics parks on Baldwin Avenue at the east side of

1079
01:51:20,450 --> 01:51:23,630
On Baldwin Avenue at the east side of Auburn Hills border,

1080
01:51:24,010 --> 01:51:26,310
there's a small partial that has been reclassified

1081
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:27,490
as corridor mixed use.

1082
01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:29,550
At the northwest corner of Walton,

1083
01:51:29,770 --> 01:51:31,450
telegraph between Telegraph and Newark,

1084
01:51:31,670 --> 01:51:33,690
it's been changed to neighborhood mixed use.

1085
01:51:34,290 --> 01:51:36,950
Woodward Avenue on the east side at Bloomfield Township's

1086
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:39,590
border, the block south of MLK has been classified

1087
01:51:39,590 --> 01:51:40,770
as community residential.

1088
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:43,270
But for you good off that slide, or if you go back to that slide.

1089
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:43,950
Oh, I'm sorry.

1090
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:47,450
The first item, part of what residents were

1091
01:51:47,450 --> 01:51:53,930
the golf course is a variation of what's above golf drive and what's below golf drive.

1092
01:51:54,410 --> 01:51:58,810
So can you just recap where it landed after you've updated it?

1093
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:06,880
So the previous land use map from the last master plan doesn't exist in this.

1094
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:08,540
There's different classification systems.

1095
01:52:08,980 --> 01:52:14,820
So the draft plan that went before Council on February 3 had civics and park for the area south of

1096
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:20,320
of Gulf Drive adjacent to Crystal Lake, but it actually had single family residential for

1097
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,900
north of it, which would align with the zoning district and it's something we did not catch

1098
01:52:23,900 --> 01:52:28,720
at that time. So we appreciated the feedback from the community and we aligned that to be civics

1099
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:34,980
and parks. So I'm both sides that would show civics and parks. That is correct. Mayor.

1100
01:52:35,480 --> 01:52:40,940
Yeah, the end result was both sides of Gulf Drive or civics and parks. I think you may have

1101
01:52:40,940 --> 01:52:44,300
initially described it backwards. The part adjacent to Crystal Lake

1102
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:46,560
is the part north of Gulf Drive.

1103
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,040
The part south of Gulf Drive is not adjacent to Crystal Lake.

1104
01:52:50,540 --> 01:52:53,880
So I think originally the part north of Crystal Lake

1105
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,100
was the Vicks and Parks in the draft master plan.

1106
01:52:57,340 --> 01:52:58,520
The part south was not.

1107
01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,720
Now they both are.

1108
01:52:59,900 --> 01:53:00,260
Is that accurate?

1109
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:01,020
You are correct.

1110
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:04,160
I'm a geographer and I have to say my compass is off right now.

1111
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:05,280
It's an unusual time.

1112
01:53:05,380 --> 01:53:06,060
But thank you for the team.

1113
01:53:06,180 --> 01:53:07,340
I'm fine here because he lives right there.

1114
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:08,000
Yeah, exactly.

1115
01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:10,260
Thank you for allowing me.

1116
01:53:10,260 --> 01:53:11,700
I just knew that question was going to come up.

1117
01:53:11,820 --> 01:53:13,920
So I wanted this slide since I had the answer to.

1118
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,760
Yeah, no, I appreciate you pointing that up.

1119
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:21,060
And so we, Mark and our team sat down,

1120
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,640
we went through every single comment, one by one,

1121
01:53:23,780 --> 01:53:26,500
we had the moanics and in an Excel sheet,

1122
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,580
where we documented city staff's response,

1123
01:53:28,740 --> 01:53:30,380
and we documented the exact edits

1124
01:53:30,380 --> 01:53:32,780
that were made to the plan based on that comment

1125
01:53:32,780 --> 01:53:35,620
with page numbers, and that's available on request.

1126
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,040
Just so everyone knows that we appreciate

1127
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,680
every single person who sent in comments

1128
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:41,660
and they were all heard.

1129
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,160
So thank you for your time on that.

1130
01:53:44,540 --> 01:53:50,260
In case we want to look at larger versions of the maps, these are all in here happy to go back at any time.

1131
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:55,920
Just wanted to give everyone a recap that we were at the Planning Commission meeting on May 7th,

1132
01:53:56,660 --> 01:54:01,860
and PC recommended to City Council to adopt Division Paniac with a few different conditions,

1133
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:08,080
just adding a couple of last minute edits to the plan, which include updating the future land use action plan

1134
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:12,560
to include two more actions, including the first two undertaker zoning ordinance update with

1135
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,020
the principles of this master plan in the short term.

1136
01:54:15,580 --> 01:54:19,900
And the second one is to ensure and enforce adherence to development performance standards

1137
01:54:19,900 --> 01:54:24,620
identified in the zoning ordinance as an ongoing performance measure.

1138
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:31,900
To include a little bit more bolded text and a logo for the Pontiac Promisone and to fix

1139
01:54:31,900 --> 01:54:36,640
some text level edits to the acknowledgment sections that folks were able to catch.

1140
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:42,540
So these were the conditions with which they recommended City Council to adopt Vision Pontiac.

1141
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,680
And our next year's an overview of the adoption process.

1142
01:54:47,820 --> 01:54:50,920
We had our 63 public, 63 day public comment period.

1143
01:54:51,580 --> 01:54:54,360
We were at Planning Commission on May 7th.

1144
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,060
We are now at the City Council meeting on the 20th.

1145
01:54:57,660 --> 01:55:00,600
And as the council has suggested, this is our first time here.

1146
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:05,780
And then the council will formally adopt this plan or choose to adopt this plan on June 3rd.

1147
01:55:05,780 --> 01:55:08,000
ahead of vision, Pontiac implementation.

1148
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,040
And we are welcome all of your questions.

1149
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:13,180
Thanks for your time.

1150
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:14,220
Thank you.

1151
01:55:14,340 --> 01:55:16,460
For time, let's conclude the special presentation.

1152
01:55:16,820 --> 01:55:20,880
And now segue into number five, so that way we can open up for the first reading.

1153
01:55:21,020 --> 01:55:23,580
Is there a motion to adopt the resolution to approve the city of Pontiac?

1154
01:55:23,580 --> 01:55:23,760
Yes.

1155
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:24,720
Master plan.

1156
01:55:24,940 --> 01:55:25,480
Is there a second?

1157
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:27,400
Moved by Council and Rutherford.

1158
01:55:27,580 --> 01:55:28,760
Seconded by Council and Jones.

1159
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,160
It's now before us.

1160
01:55:30,260 --> 01:55:32,460
And now, if you have questions, feedback.

1161
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:41,220
input and just to reiterate, thank you to the many, many, many, many hundreds of residents that took part of this, you know, nearly a year-long process.

1162
01:55:42,580 --> 01:55:44,300
So, Council members, any discussion on the motion?

1163
01:55:44,500 --> 01:55:53,140
And again, my vision others can feel differently, but that we allow some time and have it carry over to the June 3rd meeting as well for continue research and review.

1164
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,140
First, speaking of those, Councilman James.

1165
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:59,620
Yeah, I would just like to say I've got a lot of comments, but I will save them.

1166
01:55:59,620 --> 01:56:05,940
The one thing I do want to mention, I do appreciate you adding about family-friendly activities

1167
01:56:06,700 --> 01:56:18,140
because the City of Pontiac has no recreational businesses that I know of in this city,

1168
01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:19,840
which is really sad.

1169
01:56:20,380 --> 01:56:24,280
We used to have a roller skating rinks in this city.

1170
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,820
We had all kinds of things that our children could do.

1171
01:56:27,820 --> 01:56:43,280
Our young people could do today. We have nothing. And I think our plan really needs to look at and try to, you know, encourage businesses who, you know,

1172
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:54,160
recreational kinds of businesses to come to Pontiac because we have we don't have any of those businesses. So it's good to see that you did add that to the downtown as a focus.

1173
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:57,830
Other questions or feedback?

1174
01:56:58,350 --> 01:57:00,930
Protem, Karen, to notice the type of graphical item in the

1175
01:57:00,930 --> 01:57:02,650
acknowledgments page.

1176
01:57:03,250 --> 01:57:03,850
Protem?

1177
01:57:05,230 --> 01:57:07,530
Yes, so you can put my correct title.

1178
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:10,810
I don't want to take President McGinnon's thunder.

1179
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:15,710
So I'm not the President on the President of Protem, so just a

1180
01:57:15,710 --> 01:57:16,030
correction.

1181
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:22,550
For the discussion on this first reading of the master plan,

1182
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:27,130
to council members want us to continue reviewing it and bring it back on June 3rd, or is there

1183
01:57:27,130 --> 01:57:29,670
interest in formally adopting it tonight?

1184
01:57:31,470 --> 01:57:35,190
I will rather us bring it back so I can get a thorough reading of the whole document.

1185
01:57:35,570 --> 01:57:39,270
As well. Okay, so do you move to postpone until the June 3rd, City Council?

1186
01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:42,890
Yes, I'll make a move before. It's been moved by Protem Carrington,

1187
01:57:42,990 --> 01:57:46,710
second by council in Rutherford that we postpone. So we invite the community,

1188
01:57:46,830 --> 01:57:51,690
you can go to visionpaniac.com, take a look at all of the all the language,

1189
01:57:51,690 --> 01:57:57,590
you can zoom in on the maps, look in detail, that was successfully done during the 63-day

1190
01:57:57,590 --> 01:58:02,730
comment period, but share with your council person, your feedback concerns, hopes and ideas.

1191
01:58:03,650 --> 01:58:03,890
All right.

1192
01:58:04,130 --> 01:58:07,670
Here are nothing for their role-call clerk, or on the motion to postpone to the June 3rd

1193
01:58:07,670 --> 01:58:07,950
meeting.

1194
01:58:09,550 --> 01:58:09,910
Jones?

1195
01:58:11,230 --> 01:58:11,490
Yes.

1196
01:58:12,350 --> 01:58:12,870
McGinnis?

1197
01:58:12,990 --> 01:58:13,370
Yes.

1198
01:58:13,850 --> 01:58:14,110
Parker?

1199
01:58:15,110 --> 01:58:15,630
Rutherford?

1200
01:58:16,830 --> 01:58:17,270
Yes.

1201
01:58:17,670 --> 01:58:17,730
Here.

1202
01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:19,270
Yes.

1203
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:20,250
Yes.

1204
01:58:21,010 --> 01:58:21,470
Yes.

1205
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:28,840
That motion carries the postponement. We'll move to the June 3rd City Council meeting.

1206
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,860
Thank you very much for your time tonight. And most importantly, all that work that's gone into the process.

1207
01:58:33,060 --> 01:58:36,700
Thank you very much. All right. We're now at public comment. Are there any requests this evening?

1208
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:37,340
Proton current.

1209
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,600
Yes, President, we're getting a short graph.

1210
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:54,890
Good evening, everyone. My name is Troy Kraft.

1211
01:58:56,210 --> 01:58:58,030
President Paniach, do I have to say my address?

1212
01:58:58,630 --> 01:59:01,410
No, for public comment. That's just for public hearings.

1213
01:59:02,210 --> 01:59:09,050
All right, first of all, I haven't been here since my mentor passed and you know, it's

1214
01:59:09,050 --> 01:59:12,970
getting kind and hard to talk about, but I have to kind of bring into the, you know,

1215
01:59:13,130 --> 01:59:19,930
collaparian to what I'm talking about next, this year as everyone knows that I run a summer,

1216
01:59:20,830 --> 01:59:25,150
and if you don't, if you do know you don't know that I run a summer enrichment program within

1217
01:59:25,150 --> 01:59:31,890
our fourth year, and it's called Crafty's Kids Summer Hangout, and this course was a part of

1218
01:59:31,890 --> 01:59:36,550
last year and she was very instrumental and she would come when she was healthy to come

1219
01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:40,790
and help out with the kids and stuff and she was very inspiring then.

1220
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:49,890
But this year we started our program in collaboration with also I am Pioneer with Michigan

1221
01:59:49,890 --> 01:59:50,530
Works.

1222
01:59:50,990 --> 01:59:56,770
We're using the work youth workers there and we're going to have our program starting June 23rd

1223
01:59:56,770 --> 01:59:59,970
to August 2nd over at PAE.

1224
02:00:00,140 --> 02:00:15,420
And with this encompassing of sports and enrichment, sports training, and what we allowed the youth to train the other youth, and therefore we get in power with them, and power with them at the running program.

1225
02:00:15,860 --> 02:00:21,180
We get players of some from the basketball team to come train the small kids on dribbling the basketballs.

1226
02:00:21,620 --> 02:00:27,060
and stuff to give them something, because that could be somewhere in the career in the basketball training,

1227
02:00:27,060 --> 02:00:30,600
it's been money and that not, and to get our students to come.

1228
02:00:30,820 --> 02:00:31,860
You know, it's so long.

1229
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,580
So the kids can basically run their own programs.

1230
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:36,520
That's why it's called the Summer Hangout.

1231
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:43,180
And each year, I take one of the tigers that allowed me to have over a hundred tickets in.

1232
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:48,740
Twice a year, we take the kids to the park, and I take the kids to the park program.

1233
02:00:48,740 --> 02:00:51,420
because a lot of our kids don't have that opportunity

1234
02:00:51,420 --> 02:00:53,920
of going to a tiger baseball game.

1235
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,360
So we do that each year and it's about four years

1236
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:57,660
we're doing it.

1237
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:03,480
And we also have scheduled to July 11th for our next trip there.

1238
02:01:03,940 --> 02:01:06,220
And I want to go to another community program.

1239
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,040
Oh, Lord, I'm running out of time.

1240
02:01:08,940 --> 02:01:10,980
Another community program, we're starting

1241
02:01:10,980 --> 02:01:14,560
co-ed, softball over the middle dam over in district one.

1242
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,680
Thanks to Councilwoman Rutherford

1243
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:27,160
and Council, we're on the Catholic James and for coming in and supporting this program, it's just a collaboration to bring the families out.

1244
02:01:27,660 --> 02:01:31,720
It's not just going to be a menace going to be women out there playing in two and it starts June 7.

1245
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,660
We have six teams already.

1246
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:38,080
Six teams already and we need your support, it's going to be on Saturdays.

1247
02:01:38,300 --> 02:01:39,560
And like I said, it's a family event.

1248
02:01:39,820 --> 02:01:43,860
If any community partners want to join in, they can come, they can contact me.

1249
02:01:43,860 --> 02:01:50,540
and we can make this happen because I believe that our city needs this, needs this type of

1250
02:01:50,540 --> 02:01:55,300
morale right now. One other thing I am running, I'm a right-in for Councilor.

1251
02:01:55,820 --> 02:01:57,280
I want to talk to you much about that.

1252
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:02,340
Troy, craft. Your time is included and we can't talk about the election.

1253
02:02:02,660 --> 02:02:04,720
I'm not going to say nothing about it but I got to say something.

1254
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:05,260
Okay, sorry to start.

1255
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,360
I'm not going to say nothing about it.

1256
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:07,560
I'm not going to say anything about it.

1257
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:08,380
Miss, thank you.

1258
02:02:09,380 --> 02:02:11,240
Your time is included, sir, please.

1259
02:02:12,220 --> 02:02:12,820
All right, thank you.

1260
02:02:12,820 --> 02:02:17,000
The rule for the place is I say Jackson and get that NBA read and night for Pontiac.

1261
02:02:19,220 --> 02:02:20,580
Mr. Coward and Jones,

1262
02:02:24,140 --> 02:02:25,040
Ms. Correll Wiggins,

1263
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,300
Mr. Markers Bowman, all the digital

1264
02:02:31,300 --> 02:02:32,080
watermen.

1265
02:02:44,020 --> 02:02:49,420
Troy, I'm glad I gave him an opportunity to hone his skills and working with children when

1266
02:02:49,420 --> 02:02:54,080
he came back from Texas and I was when I recognized him and put him as part of our youth

1267
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:54,520
program.

1268
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:59,080
So, I'm glad he's carried out and had so many programs that fit the Children of Pontiac

1269
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:07,100
And on a happy note, I like the way that you counsel have rewarded and awarded and recognize

1270
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:14,460
so many of our youth who have achievements and one awards and one that contrasts and that's great

1271
02:03:14,460 --> 02:03:29,060
to recognize the value and the achievements of our own native sons and daughters right here in

1272
02:03:29,060 --> 02:03:33,740
Some of you already know about this, but she is an executive producer and California.

1273
02:03:34,420 --> 02:03:37,620
And right now she had a show series that premiered on Netflix.

1274
02:03:38,300 --> 02:03:40,640
You seen it already, call forever.

1275
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:42,500
So I would just like to talk to you about that.

1276
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:46,120
It's gotten re-reviews premiered last week and it's already been announced.

1277
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:49,420
They're going to pick it up for a second season.

1278
02:03:49,940 --> 02:03:51,880
So I just like to talk about that.

1279
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:54,540
I mean, if you remember her when she started out right here in Pontiac,

1280
02:03:55,220 --> 02:03:59,740
I was selling costumes for her when she was in Pontiac Theatre for, and look at her now.

1281
02:04:00,220 --> 02:04:04,540
So, a lot of people who know that she's out there, and some of you have other stars

1282
02:04:04,540 --> 02:04:09,720
who are out there in California, where we're trying to be writers or producers, and many

1283
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:15,900
people ask me if Shana would talk to them if they came, how they get started in the business,

1284
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:18,200
and she has done that just so many to pass that on.

1285
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:22,980
So, I just want to mention that, I can't help being a proud mom, but I'm also a very proud mother

1286
02:04:22,980 --> 02:04:26,740
of Pontiac native daughter, came right from here.

1287
02:04:28,940 --> 02:04:31,940
Sorry, a topic that I brought up before

1288
02:04:31,940 --> 02:04:34,440
that I want to finish that we want to investigate.

1289
02:04:34,660 --> 02:04:37,400
And Council, I hope you will pick up on this, too.

1290
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,480
And some of you were here when Dave Coleman,

1291
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,540
very respected by our community,

1292
02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:44,340
talked about a letter he had gotten,

1293
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:49,380
threatening to, whose house was going to be on demolition list,

1294
02:04:49,700 --> 02:04:50,780
if he didn't allow an inspection,

1295
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:52,000
I thought that that was outrageous.

1296
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,060
And so I talked to him to see if that had been cleared up.

1297
02:04:55,960 --> 02:05:00,860
Chem to find out there were 666 people and properties on that list.

1298
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:07,280
So I'm wondering of all 6666 got the same letter or if you cleared that up beforehand

1299
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,040
or maybe just sent out to certain civic people.

1300
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,700
But I think we should look into that council.

1301
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:19,140
I think he got finally a resolution, but when he told me about it, he said this was something

1302
02:05:19,140 --> 02:05:23,000
There was back from 2006 that already been cleared up.

1303
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:29,020
So why would this, something's a muck when the administration is picking up, something

1304
02:05:29,020 --> 02:05:33,420
that has already been cleared up from 2006, 19 years ago, and sending people those kind

1305
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:38,760
of threatening letters, that is uncalled for, I hope you will make sure you take your economic

1306
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:43,800
development, building the department to task, and so people won't be subject to those

1307
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,780
kind of threatening letters which are uncalled for.

1308
02:05:46,420 --> 02:05:49,120
Thank you, Dr. Waterman. Mr. Chuck Johnson.

1309
02:05:55,060 --> 02:05:56,360
Thank you very much and good evening.

1310
02:05:57,200 --> 02:05:59,940
I'm still very concerned about some old thoughts,

1311
02:06:00,420 --> 02:06:03,580
as it relates to the streets in Paniac.

1312
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:06,700
I know each of you drive through your respective areas.

1313
02:06:07,220 --> 02:06:10,940
You have to see the debris that's on the street.

1314
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:16,640
The street sidewalk by the curb wherever the streets we can't get that.

1315
02:06:16,860 --> 02:06:20,100
But we have all these employees and all these trucks.

1316
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:30,360
Now, there's no reason why in your respective areas that you can't request your employees to pick up

1317
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:36,460
large pieces of trash that could be thrown into the truck and then carried to a dumpster

1318
02:06:36,460 --> 02:06:42,820
as specified so that we can clean the city up. The city's not being cleaned up.

1319
02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:48,080
We buy in a lot of trucks, we buy in a lot of people, but we're not getting anywhere.

1320
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:52,740
the city still looks like hell. Then it's not fair to us.

1321
02:06:55,020 --> 02:06:56,980
Why does the street continue being blocked

1322
02:06:56,980 --> 02:07:03,620
off and closed between Jesse and Sanford? Now I'm gonna tell you something. You drive down

1323
02:07:03,620 --> 02:07:08,260
there and you'll see why. I'm gonna let that curiosity stand within your own brain. You'll see why

1324
02:07:08,260 --> 02:07:20,520
blocked off. Also, let's see what streets that I can't get it out. But anyways, there was

1325
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:26,740
another street in my mind regarding the debris and the ugliness that were hopeful to try

1326
02:07:26,740 --> 02:07:32,360
to clean up. We're hopeful that each of you were looking at your areas and finding out

1327
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:38,860
why our DPW department is not letting these guys pick up this trash. It's a lot of them.

1328
02:07:38,860 --> 02:07:43,540
I mean, just big pieces, that helps clean up the city.

1329
02:07:44,260 --> 02:07:47,220
And then, if we ever get a good street sweeper,

1330
02:07:47,620 --> 02:07:49,540
at least we'll have something that can go down the curb

1331
02:07:49,540 --> 02:07:52,020
and sweep it up.

1332
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:55,520
Let's see.

1333
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:58,440
I had a lot of things in my mind.

1334
02:07:58,460 --> 02:08:01,340
I'm not going to try and kill my thought.

1335
02:08:01,620 --> 02:08:03,920
But it's important that we clean the city up.

1336
02:08:04,180 --> 02:08:07,400
And the easiest way to do that is utilize iron employees.

1337
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:24,580
Even if you have to specify a truck and a individual to go through your district, at least once a week and pick up a large items and throw it in the truck and haul it to the dumps to be got a garbage dump right out here in the parking lot.

1338
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:29,400
Throw it in there. Just get rid of it and clean our city up. Thank you.

1339
02:08:30,500 --> 02:08:33,000
Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Julius Smith, Jr.

1340
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:39,960
Is it Lorraine Lazzano?

1341
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:43,280
Dr. Nostate Wright forgive me if I did.

1342
02:08:50,790 --> 02:08:52,150
Okay, been here before.

1343
02:08:52,810 --> 02:08:56,230
I'm Lorraine Lazzano, representing Stone Gate Point.

1344
02:08:56,990 --> 02:09:00,850
And I'm here to talk about our roads that have been completed

1345
02:09:00,850 --> 02:09:03,510
for over 20 years.

1346
02:09:04,190 --> 02:09:07,150
We started with agreements with the City of Pontiac,

1347
02:09:07,310 --> 02:09:09,950
the Pontiac Tiffa and a developer

1348
02:09:09,950 --> 02:09:14,250
to do a project off of Elizabeth Lake Road.

1349
02:09:14,770 --> 02:09:19,690
We now have 461 units, but we still don't have our roads completed.

1350
02:09:20,570 --> 02:09:27,250
The city so bonds in order to get the financing for infrastructure of stone gate, but

1351
02:09:27,250 --> 02:09:29,110
again the roads are not completed.

1352
02:09:29,890 --> 02:09:37,010
So I'm here asking today for money from the city to help us complete our roads, and the reason

1353
02:09:37,010 --> 02:09:44,330
is because there were agreements, actual agreements made to do that process back in 2001.

1354
02:09:45,450 --> 02:09:51,570
I would also like to invite the council to come to our community so that they can get

1355
02:09:51,570 --> 02:09:54,410
a feel of what it is we're dealing with.

1356
02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:58,090
We keep our houses nice but our roads are not.

1357
02:09:59,010 --> 02:10:03,590
When I was here before I did show pictures of some of the roads, but there are guarantees

1358
02:10:03,590 --> 02:10:10,670
needs in those agreements that our project was to be completed in about three years.

1359
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:15,590
Of course that has not happened because I'm talking about from 2001.

1360
02:10:17,470 --> 02:10:24,850
I'm asking for $3 million to go along with the million dollars that we already have.

1361
02:10:25,490 --> 02:10:29,650
Again, I'd like to invite you out so that you can see for yourself.

1362
02:10:29,990 --> 02:10:30,810
Thank you.

1363
02:10:30,810 --> 02:10:34,610
Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Vald Rose.

1364
02:10:38,860 --> 02:10:38,860
Okay.

1365
02:10:41,050 --> 02:10:42,190
Mr. Lewis Jenkins.

1366
02:10:46,970 --> 02:10:47,890
Mr. Gerald Allen.

1367
02:10:52,060 --> 02:10:53,460
It's a Renado Hunden.

1368
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,060
Even in every one, my name is Renato Hard.

1369
02:11:05,060 --> 02:11:07,220
I'm a resident of Stone Gate Point.

1370
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:15,280
Just wanted to say since I became a member of Pontiac back in 2000.

1371
02:11:15,780 --> 02:11:18,940
We started the construction 2001.

1372
02:11:18,940 --> 02:11:26,480
One, we moved in after completion of the construction and 2003.

1373
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:35,200
We've been here ever since, and every year, we paid our taxes.

1374
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:41,640
We paid everything that was asked of us.

1375
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:48,100
The only thing that we're asking, we understand that there was a recession.

1376
02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:52,120
We understand that there was a receivership.

1377
02:11:53,060 --> 02:11:56,240
We understand that there was an emergency manager.

1378
02:11:57,140 --> 02:12:07,820
We understand all of that, but what we don't understand is when are we going to do what's

1379
02:12:07,820 --> 02:12:10,240
right for the citizens?

1380
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:19,180
not just the ones that are in District 2, as someone stated earlier, when you look at the

1381
02:12:19,180 --> 02:12:31,140
roads of Pontiac, the patchwork is okay, but if we have to reach out to the federal government,

1382
02:12:31,140 --> 02:12:40,800
the county, the state, we need to do whatever we can do to get these roads fixed.

1383
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:49,580
We've had developers, after developers, builders, after builders coming go.

1384
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:53,020
We had council members coming go.

1385
02:12:53,580 --> 02:12:56,660
We've had mayors coming go.

1386
02:12:57,720 --> 02:12:59,860
Let's do something about it.

1387
02:12:59,860 --> 02:13:09,700
It's time. We can't just keep turning the blind eye saying, okay, everything is good,

1388
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:18,200
or we'll research it. I've been here network for 23 years. We'll research it. Let's do something

1389
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:29,100
about it. Let's do something about it. It's time. Thank you, Mr. Herndon. Mr. Nade Beckley?

1390
02:13:44,530 --> 02:13:53,450
A corporate beggar in the Oxford Dictionary is defined as a person perceived as a

1391
02:13:53,450 --> 02:13:56,350
scrupulous opportunist.

1392
02:13:58,050 --> 02:14:03,310
Timeline, how might begin this month for office.

1393
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:11,430
2016, he was, I guess, elected, I guess it was the 15th of 2015 election, but he

1394
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:14,570
to sell in school board the first time in 2016.

1395
02:14:15,650 --> 02:14:19,950
2020, November the third, he got third place out of three candidates.

1396
02:14:20,250 --> 02:14:23,050
Gil Garrett, Kevin Gross, Mike McGinnis.

1397
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:25,870
Mike McGinnis is in combat.

1398
02:14:26,030 --> 02:14:29,030
It's strange for the incumbent to get third place.

1399
02:14:29,570 --> 02:14:31,430
I'll tell you why, at the time,

1400
02:14:31,610 --> 02:14:36,130
pay its test scores, math for this is all school-wide students.

1401
02:14:36,610 --> 02:14:37,890
10% math.

1402
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:40,190
This is what pay is students do.

1403
02:14:40,190 --> 02:14:51,250
read is 17% science 14% so and then the science 38% statewide reading 45% statewide

1404
02:14:51,250 --> 02:14:58,530
and math is 34% statewide let's move on January 2021 he's sworn in his second

1405
02:14:58,530 --> 02:14:59,970
because he won the election.

1406
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:26,040
This is the same year. September the 13th, 2021, he filed to run for city council because he was not in the primary. So he's just going to jump on the rates. So he just sat there not about nine months and he's going to abandon the seat, abandon the private school children to run for city council because it's not working well. Oh, it doesn't pay as much.

1407
02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:32,620
The bearer, the second 21 wins, the right in can date miraculously how you

1408
02:15:32,620 --> 02:15:37,340
going to spell McGinnas and he's really wasn't out there, just just seven, I don't know what

1409
02:15:37,340 --> 02:15:40,440
happened, but Perry did do it a mal, but that's probably why.

1410
02:15:41,800 --> 02:15:46,160
Now, we moved out to January 2022.

1411
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:55,420
He's mourning as a consul person later on in that week, they elect him president this year.

1412
02:15:55,420 --> 02:15:58,140
It's only been three years he follows the run for mayor.

1413
02:15:58,980 --> 02:16:00,160
So he abandoned the seats.

1414
02:16:00,420 --> 02:16:03,180
They don't care about the quiet kids, it's the kids, it's the kids, the kids, I can

1415
02:16:03,180 --> 02:16:04,520
tell you it's the kids.

1416
02:16:05,180 --> 02:16:07,480
So that sounds opportunists to me.

1417
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:11,460
You know, just make it this way over and then we don't come sliding and over, he was

1418
02:16:11,460 --> 02:16:12,040
on there before.

1419
02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:13,720
So he just decided not to run again.

1420
02:16:13,860 --> 02:16:16,300
So you get two boats, two black mines up there.

1421
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:17,300
And that's how they go.

1422
02:16:17,300 --> 02:16:19,440
They've been voting like that ever since.

1423
02:16:19,780 --> 02:16:24,640
So now I proceed to you, I proved that Michael was a commit to felon, running for

1424
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:30,140
You're already getting paid by and why don't you get a job there?

1425
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:31,560
You need to.

1426
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:33,260
You're both in favor for them.

1427
02:16:33,540 --> 02:16:35,400
And now you're banned to your school board seat.

1428
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:38,000
I can say no more, and you run it from mayor.

1429
02:16:38,540 --> 02:16:39,500
Who wants that?

1430
02:16:39,900 --> 02:16:40,560
I don't.

1431
02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:41,280
I don't.

1432
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:44,080
Paris, this is who abandoned your children.

1433
02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:45,640
Might begin this.

1434
02:16:45,880 --> 02:16:47,640
So if you want to miss your mayor, that should be it.

1435
02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:49,020
Thank you, Ms. Beckland.

1436
02:16:49,060 --> 02:16:51,120
I can close your public comments.

1437
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:56,060
A. It's B. Maxi, Prince Carr.

1438
02:17:01,780 --> 02:17:03,260
Mr. Carr, did you want to speak tonight?

1439
02:17:06,150 --> 02:17:07,350
Okay. Pastor Kathy, does it rule?

1440
02:17:20,300 --> 02:17:25,700
The presentation, when you hear people say this council hasn't done anything.

1441
02:17:27,060 --> 02:17:31,940
Ten years since that's been updated folks, that was beautiful and beautifully done.

1442
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:37,620
I was absolutely captured until we got to the parks and golf course.

1443
02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:49,680
I'm so sad to see the golf course gone completely because I think that is our last hope for something that's public that a lot of the adults and kids can do together.

1444
02:17:50,560 --> 02:17:53,400
We are two to five years from having our rec center.

1445
02:17:54,240 --> 02:18:05,400
We don't have any place and we didn't have golf course and there were parents and kids playing golf out there I know because I was one of them.

1446
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:09,200
Second point,

1447
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:14,940
I want to thank this council for what they have done.

1448
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:22,360
Sometimes when you're building from the ground up, you can't always see what's being done.

1449
02:18:23,340 --> 02:18:29,200
That master plan is a work of art to say nothing of all of the different pieces of that

1450
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:29,800
incorporates.

1451
02:18:30,960 --> 02:18:34,740
That's what they've been doing with that planning committee.

1452
02:18:35,380 --> 02:18:38,540
What an incredible piece of work that is.

1453
02:18:38,740 --> 02:18:39,840
That didn't happen overnight.

1454
02:18:40,860 --> 02:18:42,940
And yes, they're probably being mistakes in it.

1455
02:18:43,340 --> 02:18:44,880
Well, life is full of mistakes.

1456
02:18:45,940 --> 02:18:48,400
But overall, that's a brilliant piece.

1457
02:18:48,860 --> 02:18:49,620
And well done.

1458
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:51,740
And I want to thank them for it.

1459
02:18:51,740 --> 02:18:56,930
And I want to thank this committee, this council.

1460
02:18:57,690 --> 02:18:59,310
You take in so much abuse.

1461
02:19:00,910 --> 02:19:06,010
And yet you work on, and you work on, and you work on, because that's why you're here.

1462
02:19:07,850 --> 02:19:14,250
And you all have different reasons for being here, but in the end, you're all Pontiac.

1463
02:19:15,430 --> 02:19:20,950
In the end, what you do becomes part of Pontiac.

1464
02:19:22,670 --> 02:19:28,210
And I was personally very pleased to see the historic piece of the Master Plan.

1465
02:19:28,210 --> 02:19:33,370
There's so much history here, so much history, the jazz.

1466
02:19:34,510 --> 02:19:40,230
When I was a youngster, we used to come up here to Pontiac, and we listened to the jazz

1467
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:40,730
bands.

1468
02:19:41,430 --> 02:19:46,430
They were nobody then, they got to be somebody, and now they're gone.

1469
02:19:47,550 --> 02:19:53,530
But we've got new somebody's taking their place, and we don't pay any attention to that.

1470
02:19:54,810 --> 02:20:00,450
The Quincy's group, if you haven't heard Quincy Stewart's group, you miss something.

1471
02:20:01,290 --> 02:20:09,450
They are good. Have you ever heard Melanie Sing, Ella Fitzgerald Jr., that's a homegrown girl.

1472
02:20:11,150 --> 02:20:18,810
We need to support our own and remember that these kids that are in high school today have never had

1473
02:20:19,370 --> 02:20:24,290
what our kids for years from now possibly could have.

1474
02:20:24,290 --> 02:20:25,770
That does conclude your time.

1475
02:20:37,880 --> 02:20:39,960
Good evening, Council Mayor, Deputy Mayor.

1476
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:50,820
I wanted to get up to kind of clarify my thoughts on the master plan as it relates to the golf course.

1477
02:20:51,540 --> 02:20:59,920
I have on a golf outfit today because I played golf this morning and you guys know it's not warm out there.

1478
02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:09,260
Um, but the golf course was formally coded as a residential, that was why Mr. Parker

1479
02:21:09,260 --> 02:21:15,960
who owns the golf course, not that Mr. Parker, that's why Mr. Parker who owns the golf

1480
02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:22,820
course thought he could sell the golf course to a developer who would turn the golf course

1481
02:21:22,820 --> 02:21:24,200
into more homes.

1482
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,520
Our golf course is a golf course.

1483
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:35,940
There are rumors that the Pope family in Birmingham, they built the Penguin House at the zoo.

1484
02:21:36,680 --> 02:21:39,640
They are not a family without funds.

1485
02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:48,920
They offered a substantial amount to the golf course and the golf course turned it down because

1486
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:54,040
he was so intent on selling that golf course for a development.

1487
02:21:54,780 --> 02:22:05,400
As I understand it, Mr. Yandrick, now the golf course has a zoning as civic recreational

1488
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:13,460
or something like that. Civic park, which means it is a golf course. And so we have

1489
02:22:13,460 --> 02:22:21,200
not lost the golf course. It still is a golf course, and the language of our master plan

1490
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:30,300
says that those lands will remain as such. Now, could the golf course be sold? Could the city

1491
02:22:30,300 --> 02:22:35,060
does the city have the funds to buy back the golf course? I don't know, but I'll give

1492
02:22:35,060 --> 02:22:45,860
you an example. Very recently, an NFL player bought a golf course, but it was a country club.

1493
02:22:45,860 --> 02:23:02,500
Now some of you have been to a country club, ours is not a country club, ours is a golf course, it's a municipal golf course, it has a club house, it has men's rooms, ladies room, no showers, no lockers, it's a golf course.

1494
02:23:02,500 --> 02:23:13,700
This gentleman bought a country club with a formal dining room and he paid less than 4.4 million for it.

1495
02:23:14,620 --> 02:23:25,240
Our Mr. Parker was asking 6.3 million for a golf course that he paid 5.550,000 dollars for.

1496
02:23:25,240 --> 02:23:28,920
That is what a carpet battery is, Mr. and A.

1497
02:23:29,660 --> 02:23:33,240
So I just want to make it clear.

1498
02:23:33,500 --> 02:23:34,920
We have not lost our golf course.

1499
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:38,700
And for those of you who have youngsters,

1500
02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:41,360
who would like to play golf course sits waiting

1501
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:43,320
and we have people waiting to help them.

1502
02:23:43,660 --> 02:23:44,240
Thank you.

1503
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:46,320
Ms. Darling Clark.

1504
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:02,220
Good afternoon, council administration.

1505
02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:05,500
Sometimes when you come behind people once again,

1506
02:24:05,660 --> 02:24:07,620
you have an opportunity to get a clear team.

1507
02:24:07,620 --> 02:24:10,640
And thank you, Ms. Rice, for giving clarity for the golf course.

1508
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:13,780
A lot of the properties that was sold off during emergency

1509
02:24:13,780 --> 02:24:16,500
management, they got them for really, really, really cheap.

1510
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:20,000
You got schools, six schools, the three schools being

1511
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:23,280
bought for less than $250,000, they turned it to me,

1512
02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:24,140
and it out of profit.

1513
02:24:24,780 --> 02:24:28,340
And I say that because the old Pontiac Central school

1514
02:24:28,340 --> 02:24:30,520
was one of those schools that was sold as a package,

1515
02:24:30,660 --> 02:24:34,060
and got it for $600,000 along with other schools,

1516
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:35,900
which is frankly, there's another one they have.

1517
02:24:35,900 --> 02:24:37,940
of this implying property school.

1518
02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:43,780
Now, Lee want to turn over and make $12 million from the citizens of Paniay to get it

1519
02:24:43,780 --> 02:24:47,000
and turn it into a rex to our office for the city.

1520
02:24:47,180 --> 02:24:52,460
Whatever they want to turn it into, they want to sell it for $12 million back to the city,

1521
02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:54,680
which is very sad.

1522
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:59,180
But the sad part about is that the council have the opportunity to vote on that to see

1523
02:24:59,180 --> 02:24:59,340
it.

1524
02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:02,360
Do you want your residents to pay that tax?

1525
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:04,520
No, and Lee is good.

1526
02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:06,600
Please don't misinterpret that.

1527
02:25:06,780 --> 02:25:10,780
Take a very good care of their properties that they have.

1528
02:25:11,620 --> 02:25:16,720
But once again, they only bought it for $600,000 from the city of Pontia to make $12,000.

1529
02:25:17,700 --> 02:25:19,360
Ooh, that's a lot of money they're making.

1530
02:25:20,200 --> 02:25:21,280
And let's say this too.

1531
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:23,680
You wonder why people don't come to Pontia?

1532
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:27,120
What do we have to offer people in return?

1533
02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:30,020
You want something, but you don't know what you want.

1534
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:33,260
You take less of the value that you want to give your resident,

1535
02:25:33,260 --> 02:25:37,520
but you stand with egos bigger than the value of what you're asking for business people.

1536
02:25:38,180 --> 02:25:43,340
And I say that because, if you got the retirees waiting for a picture that they so

1537
02:25:43,340 --> 02:25:48,520
dearly earn, that's not very good value, it's this next ego sitting in a way to see what

1538
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:55,100
happen next. But then we got schools that's closing. We really got one school for high school.

1539
02:25:55,520 --> 02:26:00,880
And it's not even, it's standing on not even one leg, it's standing on a half leg. But yet,

1540
02:26:00,880 --> 02:26:03,300
You sit here and says, what do we have?

1541
02:26:03,940 --> 02:26:06,600
The fact is very insulting to the people.

1542
02:26:06,820 --> 02:26:08,760
And I say this very sensitive that they're

1543
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:09,060
counseling.

1544
02:26:09,060 --> 02:26:10,320
And this is not brow-beating.

1545
02:26:10,420 --> 02:26:11,880
And you're not trying to beat you.

1546
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:13,680
It's one resident want to put it.

1547
02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:16,280
I'm trying to give you clarity to answer your question

1548
02:26:16,280 --> 02:26:17,260
counselment, James.

1549
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:20,500
You sit there with Eagles bigger than probably the seats

1550
02:26:20,500 --> 02:26:22,320
that you sit in, but yet you want to say

1551
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:23,860
that you're being pegged with.

1552
02:26:23,860 --> 02:26:25,720
And you allow a resident to continue to come

1553
02:26:25,720 --> 02:26:28,420
to this mic to put public that you're being pegged with.

1554
02:26:28,580 --> 02:26:29,200
You're not.

1555
02:26:29,200 --> 02:26:34,400
The people are trying to give you a hands-up of what's really going on so you can handle

1556
02:26:34,400 --> 02:26:39,360
an professional manner that you was voted in to do, but yet you still have to let a resident

1557
02:26:39,360 --> 02:26:44,560
come here and say that you're a being browbeat and your whole attitude is that you are always

1558
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:51,120
just mistreating you as far as from the truth. Not a panic resident that I know, not been here

1559
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:59,180
seven years plus, have mistreated anybody. Their homes and hearts are very open to the people of

1560
02:26:59,180 --> 02:27:01,480
and do your job.

1561
02:27:02,600 --> 02:27:03,400
Thank you, Ms. Clark.

1562
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:04,460
Ms. Gloria Miller.

1563
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:15,540
First one, start off with the master plan.

1564
02:27:16,580 --> 02:27:18,980
I'm talking to the citizens of the panic when I come here.

1565
02:27:20,900 --> 02:27:21,080
Okay.

1566
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:22,620
We got the master plan.

1567
02:27:22,620 --> 02:27:23,400
It looks great.

1568
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:25,980
But it's all political.

1569
02:27:26,600 --> 02:27:28,620
Why did you take you through damn years to get it done?

1570
02:27:28,860 --> 02:27:30,000
You've been up there for three years.

1571
02:27:30,940 --> 02:27:32,300
Everything's being done.

1572
02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:33,760
Stay focused, panic.

1573
02:27:34,820 --> 02:27:40,340
election election election we could talk early to the last six months but now we can

1574
02:27:40,340 --> 02:27:46,800
come first now maybe because of the election we couldn't get what we want to

1575
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:51,920
come down you didn't listen to us maybe it's because of their election in

1576
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:56,580
August this is your time to speak this is your time to talk you know what you

1577
02:27:56,580 --> 02:28:01,560
seeing with your eyes for three years and it's a city so great why in the

1578
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:02,360
the mayor leave.

1579
02:28:05,420 --> 02:28:08,560
Ash is still there. If he's doing so great, why is he leaving?

1580
02:28:11,940 --> 02:28:12,420
Maybe because

1581
02:28:12,420 --> 02:28:19,040
the bridge is not done? The community is shooting is not done? And Gers is not done. And now I'm

1582
02:28:19,040 --> 02:28:23,840
going to get to Gers. Now I wasn't at the last meeting, but Ms. Clark was there, so she informed me

1583
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:32,840
that the mayor escaped voting again. He asked for another study. Gers members are not there,

1584
02:28:32,840 --> 02:28:39,080
he's prolonging it. Now, that's to me because the mayor's leaving. He's leaving for a reason.

1585
02:28:40,740 --> 02:28:46,900
But you know what? You guys voted for a 90 percent of what he wanted. 90 percent.

1586
02:28:47,820 --> 02:28:55,680
That's fat. You have made the girls people suffer for three and a half years. I have said it to you.

1587
02:28:55,680 --> 02:29:00,700
going to say to you probably because I don't mind the people that know me. I speak what I say

1588
02:29:00,700 --> 02:29:06,080
what I mean. I mean what I say. He didn't put it off for another 45 days to do another study.

1589
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:12,580
We just did a study. There's no just did a study. You keep groundbreaking this. We're not waiting

1590
02:29:12,580 --> 02:29:20,040
eight months. Eight months you're being off. Somebody being off. We want to settle. Oh, we go get

1591
02:29:20,040 --> 02:29:23,420
out here in the street and we don't tell people what's really going on because I don't know what's

1592
02:29:23,420 --> 02:29:32,520
what I do. I know what's going on. Everybody coming down how would we how would the city look so great. It's okay. This city's that's a tail.

1593
02:29:34,620 --> 02:29:54,940
I keep my house clean. And my street clean. We got neighborhood and don't get me wrong. We got people here in the city got beautiful home. Don't get me wrong. But we got places here where they ride and they probably want to turn their ears. Food and stuff all over the street. We got we can do better than this. This money.

1594
02:29:54,960 --> 02:29:59,980
that we got, no community center, no ML.

1595
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,920
Okay, I'll bridge. And if we're doing so great, why in the hell is the mayor leaving us? Think about that.

1596
02:30:10,710 --> 02:30:11,490
Thank you, Ms. Miller.

1597
02:30:21,910 --> 02:30:32,590
I have one more public comment that came in. Based on the opportunity for those that are disabled to speak to council. This is from Charles Blackwell.

1598
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:43,760
He states, good evening. Since the Pontiac City Council was voting tonight to recognize the month of June as black music. History month.

1599
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:48,540
The cost of him a kill, good men should tell the public if he has ever been to our

1600
02:30:48,540 --> 02:30:50,460
Cali or Diddy concert before.

1601
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:55,130
President McGinnis, I can close a public comment.

1602
02:30:56,550 --> 02:31:01,310
Public comment has concluded where a recognition of elected officials, are there any current elected

1603
02:31:01,310 --> 02:31:04,510
officials that want to give an update on the positions they hold?

1604
02:31:05,650 --> 02:31:08,710
Hearing none, we're now at agenda address.

1605
02:31:09,470 --> 02:31:14,050
Is there any requests for President Carrington of residents who want to speak to items on tonight's

1606
02:31:14,050 --> 02:31:14,430
agenda?

1607
02:31:14,430 --> 02:31:16,890
I'll yes, President of the Guinness.

1608
02:31:16,990 --> 02:31:19,350
Mr. Carlton Jones, I don't see three and four.

1609
02:31:30,890 --> 02:31:34,530
Yeah, I want to also speak to the master plan.

1610
02:31:36,310 --> 02:31:43,310
The master plan is a real key piece for our city, and it's a lot of intricate parts that

1611
02:31:43,310 --> 02:31:44,250
master plan.

1612
02:31:45,330 --> 02:31:48,570
And our city right now is up under master planning.

1613
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:53,250
So I just want all of us to be very conscious of.

1614
02:31:53,250 --> 02:32:00,350
are we going to be proactively a part of this plan because Pontiac is truly changing with

1615
02:32:00,350 --> 02:32:06,710
this mass of plan and everybody needs to understand when zoning changes, areas changes,

1616
02:32:07,130 --> 02:32:11,650
we have to be able to be willing to change with a lot of these changes this admin.

1617
02:32:12,610 --> 02:32:18,790
And we have to have elected people who want to be proactively making sure the residents are

1618
02:32:18,790 --> 02:32:23,030
part of the change in an including of the changes, because there's no ifans and

1619
02:32:23,030 --> 02:32:30,410
butts about it, this master plan sometime can be guided by outside sources, who

1620
02:32:30,410 --> 02:32:34,990
desire to do certain things in our city, and there's nothing wrong with us coming

1621
02:32:34,990 --> 02:32:40,830
in elevating, but we truly, truly need to be looking at the opportunity for us to

1622
02:32:40,830 --> 02:32:46,210
be to make sure residents are at the forefront, especially long-term residents have

1623
02:32:46,210 --> 02:32:50,550
year for years at the forefront of all the decisions being made.

1624
02:32:51,350 --> 02:32:55,590
And one thing that we have to be very conscious is checks and balances need to be in place.

1625
02:32:56,490 --> 02:33:02,170
So when it comes around to looking at the details of anything that we're doing, especially

1626
02:33:02,170 --> 02:33:09,250
in master plan in our city, we need to be very conscientious of residents first.

1627
02:33:09,250 --> 02:33:17,990
I say this because I know it's very difficult to project the future, but we need to be

1628
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:24,790
talking about how we take our residents to another level and they be in the forefront

1629
02:33:24,790 --> 02:33:27,050
of our mind of everything we do.

1630
02:33:27,870 --> 02:33:32,390
Every decision is being made, you should be a resident's first.

1631
02:33:33,090 --> 02:33:39,110
Somehow another I think that is sometimes missed, but that is what we are looking for, especially

1632
02:33:39,110 --> 02:33:44,990
are elected counsel people to be checks and balances for whatever happens with these department

1633
02:33:44,990 --> 02:33:50,450
people who come and lead and put recommendations and especially when recommendations follow

1634
02:33:50,450 --> 02:33:56,270
to this master plan. I want to say I apologize for not being here. This is my golf season

1635
02:33:56,270 --> 02:34:04,110
time so I'm a little late. I missed our opportunity but we got a big full agenda here and I'm

1636
02:34:04,110 --> 02:34:09,230
state eagerly attended to see how these tanks pan out.

1637
02:34:09,650 --> 02:34:10,210
Thank you.

1638
02:34:10,370 --> 02:34:11,110
Thank you, Mr. Jones.

1639
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:13,830
Dr. Digital Waterman, what items on the agenda?

1640
02:34:26,320 --> 02:34:32,920
Three and four were the master plan, which you are going to perhaps vote on this evening.

1641
02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:40,720
And I just want to remind you and to ask, housing city was supposed to be done concurrently

1642
02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:41,600
with the master plan.

1643
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:42,640
And that's really important.

1644
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:45,060
I just wanted a house to, and that's going to be done.

1645
02:34:45,060 --> 02:34:54,540
It's maybe a particular interest to this community, which has been 56% rental, that where

1646
02:34:54,540 --> 02:34:57,960
is the home ownership, which helps the stabilizers, is that increasing?

1647
02:34:58,780 --> 02:35:03,440
And one of the things that we have brought in the our money form was to help our homeowners

1648
02:35:03,440 --> 02:35:08,580
and stabilize their ownership in their properties so that we could increase that.

1649
02:35:09,020 --> 02:35:14,340
One of the things that housing studies should also show us is that as we are increasing all

1650
02:35:14,340 --> 02:35:15,880
economic development, and that's a good thing.

1651
02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:17,340
We're bringing that in and brought in, you know,

1652
02:35:17,400 --> 02:35:22,020
so much economic development starting with all the big industries

1653
02:35:22,020 --> 02:35:25,080
that we brought into the city under the administration

1654
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:26,900
about the ninth council was here.

1655
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:29,620
But as we do that, we see the prices are going up.

1656
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:33,900
But we hear people talking about that their rental prices are going

1657
02:35:33,900 --> 02:35:36,980
up, and some of them are talking about they can no longer afford to be

1658
02:35:36,980 --> 02:35:39,100
here, and that is not something under their control.

1659
02:35:39,780 --> 02:35:43,620
So I hope that the housing today will help you realize.

1660
02:35:43,620 --> 02:35:52,920
But things you need to put in place in order to protect the citizens who are here and make sure that they can stay in their homes and make sure they can afford to be in the community.

1661
02:35:55,140 --> 02:36:02,960
One of the other projects that I won't go into that I don't have time for that, but anyway, the housing state, let's find that and let's see what that, how that guides us.

1662
02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:10,000
The other thing is you've seen the budget and there is something on the agenda that says you might approve the budget this evening.

1663
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:14,740
And what I brought up during the last public hearing,

1664
02:36:15,260 --> 02:36:18,560
I'm just going to repeat that again because I think it's an important point.

1665
02:36:19,380 --> 02:36:23,180
One of the most important things that people want when they talk about their things that they want to improve,

1666
02:36:23,320 --> 02:36:29,100
and the money that is spent on, and Taniak, nine out of ten people will talk about the roads,

1667
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:29,940
prepare the roads.

1668
02:36:30,460 --> 02:36:34,920
As I look at the budget that you have gotten from the mayor,

1669
02:36:35,500 --> 02:36:38,520
which you are apparently haven't made major changes,

1670
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:42,260
So I don't see a line on them in there to pay for roads, repair.

1671
02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:47,120
So where is that coming from, and how are you going to allow for that and our budget

1672
02:36:47,120 --> 02:36:50,820
and our spending, given the fact that that's the most important thing to so many people.

1673
02:36:51,560 --> 02:36:57,080
The other thing is that it's the Youth Brexit Center, they're supposed to be $10 million, plus

1674
02:36:57,080 --> 02:37:02,620
the $3.2 million that the council left when I was mayor for the Youth Brexit Center.

1675
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:05,920
Where I don't see where that $10 million was coming out of the budget.

1676
02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:08,020
Okay, can you tell us where that is?

1677
02:37:08,020 --> 02:37:13,160
So, don't let's give the people the correct answers and let's make sure that the things

1678
02:37:13,160 --> 02:37:17,740
that they value and that they, they said I'm going to be paid for, that are somewhere

1679
02:37:17,740 --> 02:37:23,940
a lot at four and then we don't get prizes at the end saying, oh, we have to be charged,

1680
02:37:25,100 --> 02:37:30,080
bees and pay bonds for things that you told us that. That does conclude you. Should be happy.

1681
02:37:30,220 --> 02:37:34,080
We should have. Thank you, Dr. Water and Mr. Chubby. Johnson, what items?

1682
02:37:40,980 --> 02:37:49,740
I'm very concerned about these dollars that's been asked for and spent, for an example,

1683
02:37:49,980 --> 02:37:59,780
over a million dollars, to redo the roads at Center Point Parkway and Middle Street down

1684
02:37:59,780 --> 02:38:00,160
that.

1685
02:38:00,760 --> 02:38:07,460
These streets are being used by people who work at the mortgage company over there.

1686
02:38:07,460 --> 02:38:14,340
And they're being used by the contractor who has the back plan in the back.

1687
02:38:14,820 --> 02:38:15,840
Those heavy trucks.

1688
02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:21,460
Now while we spend over a million and a half dollars, the research of those streets,

1689
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:23,560
and they're just getting tore up.

1690
02:38:24,160 --> 02:38:28,320
Is it appeased somebody in that business down there or what?

1691
02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:30,840
Are you guys blind and can't see?

1692
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:32,400
What's going on here?

1693
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:38,760
We need these dollars to be spent on pat, pat, pat, up, row,

1694
02:38:39,400 --> 02:38:43,680
period of pike street out here from the east to the west.

1695
02:38:44,140 --> 02:38:44,620
It's terrible.

1696
02:38:45,920 --> 02:38:49,960
There's a lot of streets that we can spend this money on,

1697
02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:54,000
that we need to spend on where the citizens can benefit from.

1698
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:55,740
And not some private individual.

1699
02:38:56,260 --> 02:38:58,720
And that's what's happening if I understand it correctly.

1700
02:38:59,460 --> 02:39:00,660
It don't make sense.

1701
02:39:01,420 --> 02:39:03,540
to spend these kind of dollars.

1702
02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:10,240
Further, the contractor, who you want to submit a contract

1703
02:39:10,240 --> 02:39:13,560
to based on this, co-loc construction,

1704
02:39:14,580 --> 02:39:16,740
then not even in city compliance.

1705
02:39:17,020 --> 02:39:23,120
So what is that, Jesse Street and whatever street?

1706
02:39:23,200 --> 02:39:25,360
They're not even in compliance in the city.

1707
02:39:25,880 --> 02:39:29,860
They utilize a residential property for their business,

1708
02:39:29,860 --> 02:39:37,480
construction business, but for some reason, I folk don't see that. It don't make sense.

1709
02:39:38,280 --> 02:39:44,560
Somebody has to, you know, clean your glasses, open your eyes, do something, but see, you

1710
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:51,200
given these contracts out to these contractors, I don't care no more. I don't, I don't, I don't,

1711
02:39:51,360 --> 02:39:56,940
almost said it. I don't even care anymore. What you do as it relates to these contracts,

1712
02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:02,400
But all you're doing is cheating your own citizens, how to opportunity.

1713
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:10,860
These young folks don't stand a snowball's chance in and downside to it is you guys are sitting

1714
02:40:10,860 --> 02:40:11,740
up there.

1715
02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:16,960
It's almost a close of the year of your tenure and still haven't done anything.

1716
02:40:17,920 --> 02:40:21,200
Another thing, they're tearing down the fingers, plazzing.

1717
02:40:22,180 --> 02:40:28,940
They went in higher, they're trucking company, they got trucking companies, but nobody stood up

1718
02:40:28,940 --> 02:40:35,280
for local, participant, participation, excuse me, I got that, crossed up.

1719
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:41,280
This is where you guys come in at, this is where you need to be looking to help the citizens,

1720
02:40:41,460 --> 02:40:49,660
but now you want us to help you, you want us to help you get back in their seats, make

1721
02:40:49,660 --> 02:40:52,280
You want to see, you get over there where he's at.

1722
02:40:52,840 --> 02:40:54,360
You might make it.

1723
02:40:54,620 --> 02:40:56,740
But look at what you're doing in the meantime.

1724
02:40:57,120 --> 02:40:59,460
You're not doing anything to help the folk.

1725
02:41:00,340 --> 02:41:01,960
You guys act like you scared.

1726
02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:05,720
I've been preaching down every year.

1727
02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:07,680
They'll do it any good.

1728
02:41:08,940 --> 02:41:11,120
Wake up, say something, do something.

1729
02:41:11,340 --> 02:41:12,600
Thank you.

1730
02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:14,220
Thank you, Mr. Johnson.

1731
02:41:14,620 --> 02:41:15,980
Pastor, I don't have to do this at all.

1732
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:19,300
I don't say how to this gentleman, Raddy, with you great here.

1733
02:41:19,300 --> 02:41:21,080
He knows me and I know him.

1734
02:41:22,700 --> 02:41:24,360
Ms. Darling, Clark, what items?

1735
02:41:27,650 --> 02:41:28,870
You said three and what else, ma'am?

1736
02:41:39,700 --> 02:41:40,620
Hi there again.

1737
02:41:42,240 --> 02:41:43,920
Let's talk about the master plan.

1738
02:41:45,300 --> 02:41:47,820
You know, they say if you say things nicely, people

1739
02:41:47,820 --> 02:41:51,440
will understand how to relate to you.

1740
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:53,720
Apparently a lot of people don't know how to relate to me

1741
02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:56,260
because I actually have to say it like it really is.

1742
02:41:56,540 --> 02:41:58,900
Kind of like, boom, boom, boom, boom, when I've had enough.

1743
02:42:00,160 --> 02:42:06,460
Mr. Carlton Jones, who I grew up with, put it very clearly on the people that's been hired

1744
02:42:06,460 --> 02:42:08,800
for the master plan that was going on.

1745
02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:13,300
So let me say it like this, with the public's been saying it like a lot of people in

1746
02:42:13,300 --> 02:42:18,720
Pernicus saying, and this is no offense to guess anybody that was hired to do this job, but

1747
02:42:18,720 --> 02:42:20,740
it does fall on the mayor's lap.

1748
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:28,760
Mayor, you hire a company to come in here who had no experience and no recollection to what

1749
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:32,260
and how panic is running and what panic need.

1750
02:42:32,720 --> 02:42:35,700
You hire Mark and Mark, this is no thing against you as well

1751
02:42:35,700 --> 02:42:37,360
because you was hired to do a job.

1752
02:42:37,900 --> 02:42:40,560
And someone always told me, don't hate the player, hate the game.

1753
02:42:41,140 --> 02:42:44,180
And the game he played was, he bought Mark in here

1754
02:42:44,180 --> 02:42:49,320
to actually to speak on the behalf of the people.

1755
02:42:49,420 --> 02:42:51,000
That's said, for the city of Panet.

1756
02:42:51,440 --> 02:42:54,300
But what Mark does, he speak on the behalf of the business

1757
02:42:54,300 --> 02:42:56,260
person, he seems to support them more

1758
02:42:56,260 --> 02:42:57,480
and he will support the residents.

1759
02:42:57,480 --> 02:43:01,480
But yet he's doing his job, how he was told to do it.

1760
02:43:01,900 --> 02:43:04,580
He hired other people to come in here.

1761
02:43:05,440 --> 02:43:10,900
That's not even from the city of Pontan, but now one time there that you select, people

1762
02:43:10,900 --> 02:43:18,380
that has not been on these committees, I'm not yet, you pick anybody to come in here and

1763
02:43:18,380 --> 02:43:24,220
get be the voice of the people instead of the same people, board after boards, see that

1764
02:43:24,220 --> 02:43:29,420
to see. You need fresh faces. You need someone to start a committee and I've said this

1765
02:43:29,420 --> 02:43:34,940
with Ms. Catholic Council and James. You need fresh voices to see what you guys

1766
02:43:34,940 --> 02:43:40,040
cannot see. You cannot see what the people are saying to you because you're taking it

1767
02:43:40,040 --> 02:43:45,860
personal. You cannot see their title paying the tax loan waiting for a rex center. You cannot

1768
02:43:45,860 --> 02:43:51,240
see that their title, the one person coming to the mic and saying the same thing over and over

1769
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:59,940
Because now the people think they're arguing you're not seeing what the dream and the vision that each district have each people in each district have

1770
02:43:59,940 --> 02:44:04,180
You don't listen. I have been to a lot of district meetings. Oh, yeah

1771
02:44:04,180 --> 02:44:08,160
You guys cared it pretty good, but you never wants to ask what it is

1772
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:12,060
They're verbally that the people can work together to improve the city

1773
02:44:12,060 --> 02:44:20,340
There's always these little eagles that set on these little boars as counsel and y'all but he has with each other to nothing gets done

1774
02:44:20,960 --> 02:44:23,380
Maybe you have but it has what Councilman.

1775
02:44:23,500 --> 02:44:25,560
This is the master plan I am speaking about,

1776
02:44:25,820 --> 02:44:27,900
because you so clearly put it very clear

1777
02:44:27,900 --> 02:44:29,920
that the master plan is what started.

1778
02:44:30,400 --> 02:44:31,980
Pontiac can help Pontiac start.

1779
02:44:32,380 --> 02:44:33,660
That is not true either.

1780
02:44:34,100 --> 02:44:36,060
The people of Pontiac in the 60s

1781
02:44:36,060 --> 02:44:38,140
is the one who helped dress Pontiac

1782
02:44:38,140 --> 02:44:39,280
to what it is today.

1783
02:44:40,720 --> 02:44:41,700
Thank you, Ms. Clark.

1784
02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:43,480
Ms. Gloria Miller, what items?

1785
02:44:45,340 --> 02:44:45,960
Okay, master plan.

1786
02:44:46,280 --> 02:44:47,160
Okay, thank you.

1787
02:44:58,410 --> 02:44:59,970
I'm going to speak back on the master plan real quick.

1788
02:45:00,440 --> 02:45:29,980
Some people ask me why I'm so angry. Some people say I'm evil. Whatever, whatever you want to call, I have a thing. I think when a woman speaks on my mind and said what she means, he looked angry. She, I'm not angry. I'm not mean. I gave you the shirt on my back. I'm just no joke. I just don't play. Especially when he comes to my residence in the city of Punna, for the ones that really know me out there. I mean what I say when I come here. I don't come for anything. I don't need anything. But I want our city to flourish. I'd be all around every day, every city, until I get to see

1789
02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:33,900
and I like God, we can do better.

1790
02:45:34,480 --> 02:45:36,480
My kids will not move back here.

1791
02:45:36,860 --> 02:45:38,160
They said they will not move here.

1792
02:45:38,280 --> 02:45:39,560
It's not the here for them.

1793
02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:41,720
I know people in the potters don't updite.

1794
02:45:42,060 --> 02:45:42,600
Calling me.

1795
02:45:42,740 --> 02:45:44,400
Don't have nowhere to sleep at night.

1796
02:45:45,560 --> 02:45:47,640
But we sit down here and we have to be careful.

1797
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:50,400
Even myself, because God is good,

1798
02:45:50,940 --> 02:45:52,980
because we just won't step away from where they are.

1799
02:45:54,800 --> 02:45:56,520
So be careful how you treat people.

1800
02:45:56,740 --> 02:45:57,960
And I say I have to say this.

1801
02:45:57,960 --> 02:46:00,700
The master plan, I'll think about some people say,

1802
02:46:00,900 --> 02:46:02,360
well, do it away sometime while you're angry,

1803
02:46:02,600 --> 02:46:05,520
because this body has never included us.

1804
02:46:05,660 --> 02:46:08,640
This has been the first council ever in the 10th,

1805
02:46:08,640 --> 02:46:10,740
this is the 10th out of nine councils.

1806
02:46:11,440 --> 02:46:13,500
And I think I've been to the six of them,

1807
02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:15,960
that they didn't include the people.

1808
02:46:17,340 --> 02:46:19,460
You got to include us.

1809
02:46:20,800 --> 02:46:22,620
Anybody that knew me in New England in my district,

1810
02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:26,480
I walked my district almost every other day.

1811
02:46:27,020 --> 02:46:29,040
I didn't just set that.

1812
02:46:29,420 --> 02:46:31,020
I went out in the street and see what they need.

1813
02:46:31,220 --> 02:46:36,700
If you go out there, you're not even passed for what they see out here.

1814
02:46:37,120 --> 02:46:38,960
And I just have to say the master plan.

1815
02:46:39,120 --> 02:46:44,020
I don't remember, and this week, we got this, this thing, it's a planet that everybody knows

1816
02:46:44,020 --> 02:46:44,480
it.

1817
02:46:44,480 --> 02:46:47,900
That you're not in the click that you don't be in it.

1818
02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:49,320
You ain't going to go get elected to nothing.

1819
02:46:49,600 --> 02:46:50,860
You don't get only any boards.

1820
02:46:51,660 --> 02:46:54,460
I've went out and have some people run for office because I didn't want a run.

1821
02:46:54,460 --> 02:46:59,340
I started to not did, because I'm trying to get new people in here to come into the city.

1822
02:46:59,720 --> 02:47:02,060
Not just African-American, but Chinese anybody.

1823
02:47:03,320 --> 02:47:04,200
I don't remember that.

1824
02:47:04,960 --> 02:47:06,920
The master plan is goes to the master plan.

1825
02:47:07,220 --> 02:47:11,900
I don't remember seeing any of the nobody of that in the decision of that master plan.

1826
02:47:12,680 --> 02:47:14,860
It's behind closed door stuff that I see.

1827
02:47:15,380 --> 02:47:17,340
And this is what word me about the master plan.

1828
02:47:17,380 --> 02:47:18,600
Am I in the plan?

1829
02:47:19,940 --> 02:47:20,900
That's a panic resident.

1830
02:47:21,940 --> 02:47:22,860
Am I in the plan?

1831
02:47:22,860 --> 02:47:26,240
The homes you're going to be going to be affordable for somebody else.

1832
02:47:26,460 --> 02:47:29,340
I'm making affordable my kids making affordable and they come here.

1833
02:47:29,560 --> 02:47:31,180
The part was caused too much.

1834
02:47:31,520 --> 02:47:34,480
All we in the plants is girls in the plants.

1835
02:47:34,720 --> 02:47:39,580
What is the plan for? Why do the Americans keep fighting girls about this money for 45 days?

1836
02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:44,020
For long and for another 45 days. You've got to ask yourself,

1837
02:47:44,440 --> 02:47:46,560
is it maybe because they look for girls money,

1838
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:47,600
but we've got so much money?

1839
02:47:48,900 --> 02:47:55,950
I'll die before you get it, the retirees aren't that in money, they deserve that in money.

1840
02:47:56,550 --> 02:48:00,750
And they're dying every day, and you keep prolonging, prolonging, prolonging.

1841
02:48:03,310 --> 02:48:04,430
My time is up.

1842
02:48:04,670 --> 02:48:05,610
Thank you, Ms. Miller.

1843
02:48:11,580 --> 02:48:13,540
President McGin asked him to include a gender address.

1844
02:48:13,800 --> 02:48:14,340
Thank you, sir.

1845
02:48:14,440 --> 02:48:15,780
We're at number six on the agenda.

1846
02:48:15,920 --> 02:48:20,100
It's a second reading for an ordinance rezoning amendment.

1847
02:48:20,260 --> 02:48:23,780
Is there a motion for adoption of an ordinance to amend?

1848
02:48:27,780 --> 02:48:31,500
It's been moved by Councilwoman Jones, seconded by Councilwoman James.

1849
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:35,860
It's adoption of an ordinance to amend appendix B of the Municipal Code, Mending Article

1850
02:48:35,860 --> 02:48:41,820
2, Section 2.103 zoning map to change the zoning classifications for one specific

1851
02:48:41,820 --> 02:48:44,780
parcel in the north side of East Columbia Avenue.

1852
02:48:44,900 --> 02:48:49,840
This is between Baldwin Avenue and Price, and it is subject to the agreed upon conditions.

1853
02:48:50,660 --> 02:48:56,000
This amendment would conditionally resume the parcel that 43 East Columbia from R1 to M1.

1854
02:48:56,120 --> 02:48:57,820
This was before us for a first reading.

1855
02:48:58,160 --> 02:48:59,220
This is now the second reading.

1856
02:48:59,600 --> 02:49:00,680
May I remind you of the four?

1857
02:49:01,340 --> 02:49:02,200
Yeah, thank you.

1858
02:49:02,480 --> 02:49:06,460
I know we talked about this at the last council meeting, so I don't want to belabor up

1859
02:49:06,460 --> 02:49:11,280
but this involves a parcel at 43 East Columbia.

1860
02:49:11,580 --> 02:49:19,420
It is a former school that has since been demolished and the rezoning request is made

1861
02:49:19,420 --> 02:49:23,860
by a developer who wants to develop a business at this location.

1862
02:49:24,940 --> 02:49:30,660
This is a conditional rezoning, and so there's a agenda item later on the agenda tonight's

1863
02:49:30,660 --> 02:49:36,760
meeting, assuming that this passes to authorize the execution of a conditional rezoning

1864
02:49:36,760 --> 02:49:37,100
agreement.

1865
02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:39,600
And with that, I'll turn it over to our planning manager, Mark Andrew.

1866
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:40,660
Thank you, Mayor.

1867
02:49:40,780 --> 02:49:41,060
Good evening.

1868
02:49:41,060 --> 02:49:41,420
Good evening.

1869
02:49:41,960 --> 02:49:43,660
Thank you, Mayor.

1870
02:49:43,880 --> 02:49:44,500
Good evening, Council.

1871
02:49:44,620 --> 02:49:46,200
I'm going to fly through the presentation.

1872
02:49:46,940 --> 02:49:48,220
We did share this last week.

1873
02:49:48,220 --> 02:49:55,360
This is a rezoning from R1 to M1, which is single family residential to light industrial, which is the M1 district.

1874
02:49:55,740 --> 02:49:59,880
This is a 43 East Columbia, which is just east of Baldwin Road.

1875
02:50:00,300 --> 02:50:02,180
The applicant is TD Group Holdings.

1876
02:50:02,660 --> 02:50:04,260
And again, this is a zoning map amendment.

1877
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:08,380
This is the process that this application has filed.

1878
02:50:08,960 --> 02:50:13,600
It did go before planning commission in November of 2024, but it was tabled.

1879
02:50:13,600 --> 02:50:19,400
The applicant reconsidered conditions of approval, plan and commission make a recommendation

1880
02:50:19,400 --> 02:50:20,860
on December 4th.

1881
02:50:21,260 --> 02:50:25,140
The applicant has made some further conditions of approval and that's the time it's taken

1882
02:50:25,140 --> 02:50:28,580
before it's getting this come to City Council in May of the share.

1883
02:50:28,760 --> 02:50:33,940
So tonight is the second reading if City Council wants to, they can proceed with a decision

1884
02:50:33,940 --> 02:50:35,560
on this rezoning application.

1885
02:50:36,780 --> 02:50:38,500
This is the zoning map.

1886
02:50:38,840 --> 02:50:43,560
I want to point out that on a long Baldwin Avenue, this is actually C1.

1887
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:50,360
The proposal here is for M1, which is a cognizant of the zoning it's over here.

1888
02:50:50,780 --> 02:50:54,560
There are single-family residential homes to the north, there are single-family residential

1889
02:50:54,560 --> 02:50:56,060
homes to the south and Columbia.

1890
02:50:56,820 --> 02:51:04,640
So it is this kind of an in-between area between commercial along Baldwin, a little bit

1891
02:51:04,640 --> 02:51:09,460
more intense uses on Columbia, but it is adjacent to residential in these areas.

1892
02:51:09,460 --> 02:51:15,440
This is an aerial photo from the county from 2023, just showing the former Owen School right

1893
02:51:15,440 --> 02:51:20,600
before it was demolished, so you can see it was again a blighted, dilapidated property,

1894
02:51:21,220 --> 02:51:22,420
it was in need of a refresh.

1895
02:51:23,380 --> 02:51:29,500
These photos were taken late last year, just showing the site as it was.

1896
02:51:29,780 --> 02:51:34,540
Now as we mentioned last week, the applicant did the demolition and then started using the

1897
02:51:34,540 --> 02:51:40,120
putting gravel down, putting some of storage on here without getting any zoning approvals that

1898
02:51:40,120 --> 02:51:46,600
is needed to proceed. The previous conditional rezoning for 2018 did expire and they are

1899
02:51:46,600 --> 02:51:51,840
coming back right now to get a conditional rezoning to allow this to happen. If this is approved,

1900
02:51:52,160 --> 02:51:56,100
they can proceed forward to planning commission in a site plan. If this is not approved,

1901
02:51:56,500 --> 02:52:02,360
they would have to restore the site and grass and seed the property to a natural condition

1902
02:52:02,360 --> 02:52:04,500
and this would not be allowed to remain.

1903
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:09,740
This is, again, another picture of the site from October

1904
02:52:09,740 --> 02:52:12,980
just showing what it looks like with some of the spoils

1905
02:52:12,980 --> 02:52:13,360
there.

1906
02:52:15,140 --> 02:52:18,600
The 2014 Master Plan shows this area's entrepreneurial

1907
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:20,720
residential commercial in green, which

1908
02:52:20,720 --> 02:52:24,880
allows a lot of different types of uses, but it's not solely

1909
02:52:24,880 --> 02:52:26,640
residential as it is owned.

1910
02:52:27,240 --> 02:52:30,240
The 2025 Master Plan shows this as corridor commercial,

1911
02:52:30,360 --> 02:52:31,520
which is not industrial,

1912
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:34,680
but does allow for some intense uses.

1913
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:37,700
We talked about the initial rezoning.

1914
02:52:37,820 --> 02:52:39,740
We talked about the Owen School.

1915
02:52:42,180 --> 02:52:44,060
And if the rezoning were to be approved,

1916
02:52:44,180 --> 02:52:45,960
buffering is required as the parcel

1917
02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:47,760
about its residential to the North and South,

1918
02:52:48,280 --> 02:52:49,620
the applicant has supplied conditions,

1919
02:52:49,840 --> 02:52:51,240
which I'll discuss in a minute.

1920
02:52:53,340 --> 02:52:54,900
So these were the original conditions

1921
02:52:54,900 --> 02:52:56,040
that went to Planning Commission.

1922
02:52:56,080 --> 02:52:58,940
It had to do with five landscape enhancements,

1923
02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:00,080
hours of operation,

1924
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:03,240
and just a handful of use exclusions.

1925
02:53:03,380 --> 02:53:04,620
I don't want to focus on this page,

1926
02:53:04,980 --> 02:53:07,300
but this is what Plain and Commission reviewed in December.

1927
02:53:07,740 --> 02:53:10,500
They actually recommended denial of the case.

1928
02:53:10,660 --> 02:53:14,420
I believe it was one to five, one in support, five against.

1929
02:53:15,880 --> 02:53:19,240
So the applicant came back with these updated conditions.

1930
02:53:20,380 --> 02:53:23,140
Number one, in the large green space buffer band comprised

1931
02:53:23,140 --> 02:53:25,640
of 20 feet wide and three foot high,

1932
02:53:25,940 --> 02:53:27,440
along the full perimeter of the property,

1933
02:53:27,440 --> 02:53:32,240
including Ann Arbor and East Columbia, which would be adjacent to the residential.

1934
02:53:33,260 --> 02:53:38,400
The Burm would have landscaping of three to four high-seater foot trees to ensure there's

1935
02:53:38,400 --> 02:53:41,420
no reduction in sight lines from residential vantage points.

1936
02:53:41,920 --> 02:53:46,580
The Seater trees are planted on six foot centers across the residential lots of homes.

1937
02:53:47,300 --> 02:53:50,860
A continuous eight foot high fence would be installed along the full perimeter of sight.

1938
02:53:51,300 --> 02:53:56,300
In four public bench rest areas and hard-scaping should also be provided with at least two

1939
02:53:56,300 --> 02:53:58,340
areas along residential streets.

1940
02:53:59,140 --> 02:54:04,920
The operating hours are the same, but the applicant did include that there will be a retail

1941
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:09,120
component to the site that may be open to the public during operating hours.

1942
02:54:09,920 --> 02:54:14,680
They do not intend to have signage, and this is not necessarily a full retail like you

1943
02:54:14,680 --> 02:54:19,820
would see from a nursery, but they could have individual clients come in and order some

1944
02:54:19,820 --> 02:54:22,520
supplies or order services for that.

1945
02:54:23,820 --> 02:54:28,720
The other property restrictions is they did add a lot more here.

1946
02:54:29,120 --> 02:54:33,260
So this is more than handful that would what would be prohibited on site.

1947
02:54:33,340 --> 02:54:36,220
Not to be utilized for manufacturing fabrication or processing.

1948
02:54:36,840 --> 02:54:41,600
I mean, I'll continue to help report that shall not be operated as a terminal for public

1949
02:54:41,600 --> 02:54:47,200
transportation, shall not be utilized as a recycling center, no toxic or hazardous material

1950
02:54:47,200 --> 02:54:49,660
stored on the property or stored anywhere on the property.

1951
02:54:49,660 --> 02:54:55,120
Any business on the property shall not be sexually oriented, any business located in the

1952
02:54:55,120 --> 02:55:00,080
property shall not contain any marijuana-based land uses, and there shall be no direct

1953
02:55:00,080 --> 02:55:05,040
access to the site to East Ann Arbor Avenue, only from Columbia.

1954
02:55:06,040 --> 02:55:12,640
So the applicant provided this rendering image, and this went to planning commission just

1955
02:55:12,640 --> 02:55:15,640
showing the overall orientation of the site.

1956
02:55:15,640 --> 02:55:21,420
So this is Columbia down here, this is the general parking area for employees and occasional

1957
02:55:21,420 --> 02:55:27,120
visitors, but this gravel area can be used for their storage for vehicles for some of the

1958
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:28,580
materials that they have on site.

1959
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:34,560
This dome, as far as I know, is used for cleaning, necessarily, it's not necessarily a

1960
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:37,740
salt dome, but what can be used for some of their operations.

1961
02:55:38,660 --> 02:55:43,020
And then they mentioned about that 20 foot buffer, that would be around here where there would

1962
02:55:43,020 --> 02:55:48,560
be a three-foot burn and an eight-foot fence under the conditions that they proposed on all sides.

1963
02:55:49,660 --> 02:55:54,920
Now this is another rendering that they provided prior to the first reading, just highlighting

1964
02:55:54,920 --> 02:55:56,500
what this would look like.

1965
02:55:56,680 --> 02:56:00,140
And as I mentioned in the last reading, it is, while it is a pretty picture, it doesn't show

1966
02:56:00,140 --> 02:56:06,380
the effects necessarily of all the different piles and operations of what could be stored on

1967
02:56:06,380 --> 02:56:06,680
site.

1968
02:56:07,360 --> 02:56:10,400
So, and again, this is another aerial image provided by the applicant.

1969
02:56:10,400 --> 02:56:15,760
I did not mention in tonight's presentation, but the intended, this is a rezoning which is

1970
02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:20,820
permanent if the conditional rezoning actually takes effect in a stark construction, but

1971
02:56:20,820 --> 02:56:26,580
the applicant is attending for bright fuel landscaping to have some additional operations that

1972
02:56:26,580 --> 02:56:33,180
would be taking place on site. This is what's permitted in our one. I think there are very

1973
02:56:33,180 --> 02:56:38,740
limited uses beyond single family homes that are allowed here. There are a few things a lot

1974
02:56:38,740 --> 02:56:45,640
special exception, so it is very restrictive as to what R1 is. Now with M1, there are a lot

1975
02:56:45,640 --> 02:56:52,400
of uses that are permitted by right and permitted by special exception. So even in 10 years from now,

1976
02:56:52,520 --> 02:56:58,220
if bright view were to maybe do very well expand operations elsewhere, these uses could be permitted

1977
02:56:58,220 --> 02:57:03,280
either by right or special exception. So I've really highlighted those are the ones that are not

1978
02:57:03,280 --> 02:57:10,280
struck out, the ones that are struck out are were essentially part of the conditional rezoning

1979
02:57:10,280 --> 02:57:12,340
that they could not be one of those items.

1980
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:17,920
So there are ten standards of approval with any rezoning.

1981
02:57:18,140 --> 02:57:19,260
I'd be happy to go through these.

1982
02:57:19,480 --> 02:57:21,400
There's a detail in the staff report.

1983
02:57:23,420 --> 02:57:31,020
But one of the current designation or single family home by right, you could subdivide this

1984
02:57:31,020 --> 02:57:32,740
then, you could build single family homes.

1985
02:57:32,740 --> 02:57:35,980
There really isn't much more that you could do from there.

1986
02:57:36,460 --> 02:57:40,360
The city recognizes as we're going through the master plan process that a commercial use is

1987
02:57:40,360 --> 02:57:41,600
a viable use here.

1988
02:57:42,820 --> 02:57:47,060
But in our staff's analysis to plan and commission, you know, in a industrial use next

1989
02:57:47,060 --> 02:57:51,340
to a neighborhood could have negative impacts to the neighborhood and that was something

1990
02:57:51,340 --> 02:57:52,920
that we had shared through this.

1991
02:57:53,240 --> 02:57:59,000
East Columbia is a major commercial street that can accommodate commercial traffic and there

1992
02:57:59,000 --> 02:58:03,840
There are not concerns about the impact of this rezoning for Columbia Avenue,

1993
02:58:06,280 --> 02:58:07,120
but some of

1994
02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:11,320
the M1 district industrial scale automobiles services, many warehouse, freight terminals,

1995
02:58:11,660 --> 02:58:16,840
non-toxic storage by right, adjacent to this residential community, is something to consider

1996
02:58:16,840 --> 02:58:17,940
with this rezoning.

1997
02:58:20,320 --> 02:58:24,240
And it would not, as one of the standards, it would not be appropriate to amend the list

1998
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:28,460
of permitted or special land uses to allow for this use in an R1 district zoning.

1999
02:58:28,460 --> 02:58:34,800
So, Planning Commission's recommendation was denial, five to one, just based on the four

2000
02:58:34,800 --> 02:58:38,460
standards CD, H and J that are listed up there of compliance.

2001
02:58:39,280 --> 02:58:44,280
So, the applicant's representative is here again tonight if you have any questions and thank you for your presentation.

2002
02:58:44,860 --> 02:58:45,540
Thank you.

2003
02:58:47,060 --> 02:58:49,460
Mayor, you want to expand on the Planning Management's presentation?

2004
02:58:49,960 --> 02:58:51,440
Well, your microphone?

2005
02:58:53,730 --> 02:58:58,650
I've got a question for the applicant if I could.

2006
02:58:58,650 --> 02:59:01,750
But let them make their case and then you could have the first question.

2007
02:59:02,010 --> 02:59:02,790
Yeah, no, that sounds great.

2008
02:59:03,110 --> 02:59:05,370
But I do have another question for the planning manager, though.

2009
02:59:05,770 --> 02:59:08,330
So I can wait on that, or I can ask it now, whatever you prefer.

2010
02:59:08,670 --> 02:59:10,310
So now since he's already walked up, we'll wait on that.

2011
02:59:11,390 --> 02:59:12,850
I can do however you want, though.

2012
02:59:13,010 --> 02:59:13,310
How are you?

2013
02:59:13,310 --> 02:59:14,790
Good evening, Christian Ozer.

2014
02:59:15,170 --> 02:59:17,610
On behalf of the applicant, TDE group polling.

2015
02:59:18,310 --> 02:59:20,450
LLC, we were here a couple weeks ago.

2016
02:59:20,890 --> 02:59:25,170
And we presented our position in our proposal to city council.

2017
02:59:25,370 --> 02:59:27,430
It was approved 70 for the first reading.

2018
02:59:27,430 --> 02:59:57,410
So obviously we're here for the second reading and we would hope that the vote would be consistent with the first time we were here as the city planner had mentioned the idea is is this is currently a it's the former Owen school and it was demolished and right now it is adjacent to property that is utilized by my client for storage for trucks for their landscaping business and is the applicant had said last time we need to space for storage.

2019
02:59:57,430 --> 02:59:59,970
Our businesses expanded to the extent that we...

2020
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,440
We've kind of outgrown our space and what we want to do is move over and enhance and improve the area that is currently vacant right now.

2021
03:00:08,580 --> 03:00:20,800
As those renderings demonstrated, the idea is to create a buffer from the public view in order to store materials, not so much materials, but more of the equipment in the off season.

2022
03:00:21,440 --> 03:00:25,140
The season starts November 15th and goes through April 15th.

2023
03:00:25,400 --> 03:00:29,980
During that time, that site is primarily going to be empty, because all the trucks, all

2024
03:00:29,980 --> 03:00:34,260
the equipment is stored at the sites where the work is being done.

2025
03:00:34,880 --> 03:00:38,260
In the summer, it comes back where we service them, we clean them, we get them ready for

2026
03:00:38,260 --> 03:00:41,800
the aus or during the aus season, we get them ready, and then they go back out to November

2027
03:00:41,800 --> 03:00:42,560
15th.

2028
03:00:43,140 --> 03:00:48,320
We have proposed what I believe are to be very reasonable, self-imposed restrictions.

2029
03:00:49,240 --> 03:00:57,320
I was articulated up on that board, but more importantly, and I think this is, you know, as I was sitting here and listening to some of the public comment,

2030
03:00:57,940 --> 03:01:01,540
this takes into consideration what the residents were hoping for.

2031
03:01:02,180 --> 03:01:11,940
And we went around door to door, and I supplied the names and addresses of all the residents who live on those adjacent streets in support of this project.

2032
03:01:11,940 --> 03:01:18,460
And I believe, and we believe that what is proposed takes into consideration what those local

2033
03:01:18,460 --> 03:01:19,140
residents want.

2034
03:01:19,220 --> 03:01:22,540
And they want that area improve, they want that area to be cleaned up, and they want

2035
03:01:22,540 --> 03:01:27,080
that area to be utilized for a purpose different than what it is now.

2036
03:01:27,400 --> 03:01:32,080
And we are proposing to do just that, and that is to spend a considerable amount of money enhancing

2037
03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:37,860
improving and cleaning up that area in order to have our client utilize that space for

2038
03:01:37,860 --> 03:01:38,960
his expanded business.

2039
03:01:39,440 --> 03:01:43,040
I am happy to answer any questions that you may have.

2040
03:01:43,260 --> 03:01:45,280
I know Mr. Mayor, you had a question for me.

2041
03:01:45,880 --> 03:01:49,420
But again, I would just re-articulate and restate those issues that I did

2042
03:01:49,420 --> 03:01:52,800
at the prior meeting, where this was presented for the first reading.

2043
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:56,160
Thank you. Mayor Graham, would you have the floor?

2044
03:01:57,220 --> 03:02:01,620
Yeah, thank you. I'm wondering about the domed structure

2045
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:05,880
and what it will be used for, so that's one question.

2046
03:02:05,880 --> 03:02:10,460
And then the other question is, the equipment will be stored there outside.

2047
03:02:10,760 --> 03:02:17,200
It sounds like in the primarily in the gravel parking lot, but if you could help us understand

2048
03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:23,060
the type of equipment that we're talking about and the number of pieces of equipment.

2049
03:02:23,260 --> 03:02:26,040
Certainly, let me try to answer those questions in the order that they were presented.

2050
03:02:26,380 --> 03:02:31,700
Okay, as it pertains to that structure with the dome, that would be primarily used for coverage

2051
03:02:31,700 --> 03:02:37,600
if they were to wash the cars, if washed the trucks or service the equipment, just to provide

2052
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:38,640
some cover for it.

2053
03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:40,480
It's not going to be used for salt storage.

2054
03:02:40,660 --> 03:02:42,260
It's not a salt dome or anything like that.

2055
03:02:42,340 --> 03:02:42,820
There's no materials.

2056
03:02:43,380 --> 03:02:49,540
It's just an area for workers to work on trucks or to work on equipment and to provide them

2057
03:02:49,540 --> 03:02:51,040
some shade from the elements.

2058
03:02:51,420 --> 03:02:51,940
That would be it.

2059
03:02:51,980 --> 03:02:55,320
It's just open-ended on both sides and it would be a dry-through.

2060
03:02:55,560 --> 03:02:55,860
That's all.

2061
03:02:56,420 --> 03:03:01,520
I don't anticipate and I have no reason to believe mayor that that's going to be used for

2062
03:03:01,520 --> 03:03:03,260
something other than what I had just said.

2063
03:03:03,280 --> 03:03:07,860
I don't think it's going to be stored, no storage of salt or other materials.

2064
03:03:08,760 --> 03:03:13,740
With respect to the type of equipment that would be stored on that site, it would be consistent

2065
03:03:13,740 --> 03:03:19,560
for what would normally be used in grounds keeping and road maintenance activities.

2066
03:03:19,860 --> 03:03:23,860
So the trucks, for instance, the trucks that the city of Pontiac utilizes to clear

2067
03:03:23,860 --> 03:03:26,300
snow, it would be those same exact trucks.

2068
03:03:27,180 --> 03:03:36,820
It would be maybe a skin steer, like a smaller piece of equipment that is used in a tight space on a lot to move snow, something like that.

2069
03:03:37,060 --> 03:03:42,040
I don't anticipate there being an or an amount of quote materials.

2070
03:03:42,620 --> 03:03:47,720
Like, I don't see, there's not going to be brick pavers. There's not going to be piles and piles and piles of mulch.

2071
03:03:47,740 --> 03:03:55,340
It's going to be very limited and again. The idea is that we grew out of space at the adjacent property, so we have to move it over.

2072
03:03:55,340 --> 03:04:02,780
And I know Councilperson Parker had talked about the height over, you know, making sure that whatever was stored in there

2073
03:04:02,780 --> 03:04:10,640
didn't exceed the height elevation of the berm plus the fence, which I believe was a three foot berm, eight foot fence,

2074
03:04:10,760 --> 03:04:19,220
and we got 11 feet there. And the client had represented at the last meeting that they would endeavor very hard to make certain that whatever was in there

2075
03:04:19,220 --> 03:04:22,920
was it necessarily going to be 20 feet high?

2076
03:04:22,960 --> 03:04:25,100
So it would be an obstruction or an isor

2077
03:04:25,100 --> 03:04:26,600
or not aesthetically pleasing.

2078
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:28,580
And Mr. Mayor, I don't know if that fully answered

2079
03:04:28,580 --> 03:04:30,780
your question but I'm happy to expand.

2080
03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:34,120
All right, Mayor Graham, we had a question for Mandry Andrew.

2081
03:04:35,800 --> 03:04:36,680
Yeah, thank you.

2082
03:04:40,850 --> 03:04:43,650
I'm wondering what your recommendation is.

2083
03:04:43,730 --> 03:04:46,470
I know you made a recommendation to the Planning Commission,

2084
03:04:47,170 --> 03:04:49,170
Planning Commission recommended denial.

2085
03:04:49,170 --> 03:04:57,370
the applicant, I believe has offered some additional conditions since then, quite of all of

2086
03:04:57,370 --> 03:04:59,570
that, what is your recommendation in why?

2087
03:05:01,670 --> 03:05:06,870
Really, I would still say that if you look at the standards of approval for rezoning that

2088
03:05:06,870 --> 03:05:12,350
are in the staff reported in Council's packet, really it's not marginally changed with

2089
03:05:12,350 --> 03:05:13,330
these added conditions.

2090
03:05:14,030 --> 03:05:18,890
And part of it is the adjacency to residential neighborhoods while there may be some

2091
03:05:18,890 --> 03:05:24,890
support for it. I have witnessed a lot of complaints in my past job from landscape companies

2092
03:05:24,890 --> 03:05:30,770
that are doing things at various times in creating pollution and that's sort of thing.

2093
03:05:30,810 --> 03:05:36,730
And this is an industrial use. If it was in another location that was not adjacent to residential,

2094
03:05:37,030 --> 03:05:42,270
staff may have a different recommendation, but for this specific parcel, we did, you know,

2095
03:05:42,330 --> 03:05:48,270
our recommendation to staff, you know, to, I'm sorry to plan a commission really remains the same as

2096
03:05:48,270 --> 03:05:51,190
recommendation of denial just because of the impact of the neighborhoods.

2097
03:05:52,870 --> 03:05:56,210
We need to get into deliberation from council members, councilman James.

2098
03:05:56,470 --> 03:05:57,170
This is your district.

2099
03:05:57,350 --> 03:05:58,370
Want to give you the floor first?

2100
03:05:59,210 --> 03:05:59,610
Yes.

2101
03:06:01,150 --> 03:06:04,090
With all due respect to planning.

2102
03:06:05,390 --> 03:06:08,630
On elementary school closed in 2009.

2103
03:06:10,310 --> 03:06:14,910
And since that time, this community, this residential community,

2104
03:06:14,910 --> 03:06:21,730
has had to deal with the blight of a close school in their neighborhood that nobody wanted.

2105
03:06:22,190 --> 03:06:26,390
Nobody would do anything about dumping going on, everything going on.

2106
03:06:26,650 --> 03:06:34,830
The community has dealt with the negative impact of an abandoned school since 2009.

2107
03:06:35,790 --> 03:06:42,570
And now I think the community wants to see the negative impact to me and to the community

2108
03:06:42,570 --> 03:06:44,190
is the current condition.

2109
03:06:46,110 --> 03:06:49,870
What we want to see is something done with that property

2110
03:06:49,870 --> 03:06:56,010
that adds to the, you know, adds to the community

2111
03:06:56,010 --> 03:06:59,410
and not take away the current condition takes away.

2112
03:07:00,250 --> 03:07:04,830
And I think this plan has the potential for adding to the community

2113
03:07:04,830 --> 03:07:09,710
so I think the negative impact that you're seeing

2114
03:07:09,710 --> 03:07:16,930
As having a commercial activity there, I think the negative impact of the current condition

2115
03:07:16,930 --> 03:07:24,910
outweighs that, I think that because this is a conditional rezoning that there is protection

2116
03:07:24,910 --> 03:07:30,170
there, there's really no real liability to the city and to the community.

2117
03:07:30,770 --> 03:07:35,930
And so I really strongly feel that we need to approve this, because I think it's an

2118
03:07:35,930 --> 03:07:43,530
the best interest of that community, they are tired of that, of that lot, they are tired

2119
03:07:43,530 --> 03:07:47,170
of all of all of the negative things that have been going on there.

2120
03:07:47,330 --> 03:07:53,570
They would like to see something very positive done with that property and this proposal

2121
03:07:54,350 --> 03:07:57,150
is able to fulfill that need.

2122
03:07:59,400 --> 03:07:59,840
Thank you.

2123
03:08:01,340 --> 03:08:11,780
Yeah, so President Guinness actually the question that I was on the planning was the question that the mayor actually acts as well.

2124
03:08:12,140 --> 03:08:13,120
But I do want to

2125
03:08:14,120 --> 03:08:23,000
Exxonion about code enforcement and I don't see code enforcement here because some of the major complaints concern is property was actually about the owner that owns it right now for not mistaken.

2126
03:08:25,520 --> 03:08:28,720
Some of the complaints are from the owner.

2127
03:08:28,720 --> 03:08:36,220
Yeah, so I'm going to complain sort of property of, I guess, decide itself, we're against

2128
03:08:36,220 --> 03:08:41,140
the current owner, if I'm mistaken, because I know that I've reported this over the

2129
03:08:41,140 --> 03:08:44,340
over the years that I've been on council. So I'm just wondering,

2130
03:08:46,740 --> 03:08:48,280
for me, I'm kind of torn.

2131
03:08:48,760 --> 03:08:55,180
I hear councilwoman's James plea, but I'm also concerned what last game of minutes been

2132
03:08:55,180 --> 03:09:02,620
in the middle of the neighborhood and also my district has plenty of school builders and I actually

2133
03:09:02,620 --> 03:09:08,880
have to fight with that same issue when it comes to the determined and what do we do with

2134
03:09:08,880 --> 03:09:16,680
these abandoned schools in our neighborhoods. So I'm very torn and I'm gonna sit back. You can't

2135
03:09:16,680 --> 03:09:23,440
speak sir but I would say that you mentioned doing your statement that we agreed 70 for approval

2136
03:09:23,440 --> 03:09:25,320
But we only approve the first reading.

2137
03:09:25,500 --> 03:09:27,880
So I just want to make sure that we clarify that.

2138
03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:29,380
Thank you.

2139
03:09:31,380 --> 03:09:33,860
Further discussion from council members?

2140
03:09:34,660 --> 03:09:35,980
Councilwoman Jones, followed by council.

2141
03:09:39,300 --> 03:09:41,960
This is more of a statement than anything.

2142
03:09:42,280 --> 03:09:46,000
Just looking at the diagram and zoning surrounding zoning areas.

2143
03:09:47,380 --> 03:09:52,340
I just, and I hear councilwoman James is pleased because, you know, this is close to,

2144
03:09:52,360 --> 03:09:56,820
or in her district and, you know, I'm sure she freaks this area more than I do.

2145
03:09:58,660 --> 03:10:08,880
I would still rather see housing in that residential area right smack dab in the middle of a residential community.

2146
03:10:10,020 --> 03:10:19,100
And I worry about, you know, in the long run, the pollution, noise complaints, or disturbances, you know, things that

2147
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:28,560
The app of our levers operating there may not intend to disrupt the community with, but it would go along with the job that they would be doing under the zoning of M1.

2148
03:10:29,840 --> 03:10:35,880
So that concerns me that close proximity to the residential area, barrier or no barrier.

2149
03:10:37,760 --> 03:10:39,880
That's all I wanted to say about this.

2150
03:10:41,160 --> 03:10:42,100
Do you have any questions?

2151
03:10:42,280 --> 03:10:45,480
Just a question of Mark Rofest.

2152
03:10:48,500 --> 03:10:56,820
So, the owner of this, the probably that we're discussing is also the owner of the property that is just across not Columbia, but the other street.

2153
03:10:58,140 --> 03:10:58,720
To the east.

2154
03:10:59,800 --> 03:11:01,180
And there is where I bring that up.

2155
03:11:01,180 --> 03:11:09,520
And this is a statement, but a reminding of council that not that long ago, there was a different thing I was before.

2156
03:11:09,520 --> 03:11:17,120
were a lot of residents came out, which is specifically from the houses surrounding this property

2157
03:11:17,120 --> 03:11:21,240
owner, not the one that we're talking about, but the one that they currently own, and they came

2158
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:31,000
to us complaining about dust leaving the property going on to their homes. And so I do want to

2159
03:11:31,000 --> 03:11:38,040
remind council of that commentary from the nearby community as of ways to this property owner.

2160
03:11:39,060 --> 03:11:41,440
That's incorrect, isn't it?

2161
03:11:41,440 --> 03:11:42,820
That was Danny's transpose.

2162
03:11:43,740 --> 03:11:46,300
That was on Columbia, but that was not that parcel.

2163
03:11:46,860 --> 03:11:47,540
Okay, thank you.

2164
03:11:47,840 --> 03:11:49,680
That was, that was asking for clarity.

2165
03:11:50,340 --> 03:11:51,200
That's crushing.

2166
03:11:52,100 --> 03:11:53,300
So, thank you for that.

2167
03:11:54,380 --> 03:11:56,280
And so, I rotate that back to that.

2168
03:11:56,340 --> 03:12:00,060
I appreciate Council for clarifying that for me.

2169
03:12:00,720 --> 03:12:04,940
Intermediator, can you pull up the aerial that shows the other parcels surrounding on Columbia?

2170
03:12:04,940 --> 03:12:14,680
So, just to clarify that point, so the parcel immediately to the east, closer to the train tracks,

2171
03:12:15,300 --> 03:12:20,360
is owned currently by the same owner used for bright view landscaping.

2172
03:12:20,540 --> 03:12:27,360
So, you can see on the aerial to the east there, separated by that residential side street.

2173
03:12:27,440 --> 03:12:32,320
That's their existing parcel, so that would be bright view landscaping,

2174
03:12:32,320 --> 03:12:39,740
utilizing that there. That is what they hope to continue and carry on for the parcel that

2175
03:12:39,740 --> 03:12:44,840
is in question now. So, the same ownership. What you're referencing is on a different

2176
03:12:44,840 --> 03:12:51,660
part of Columbia, not adjacent or near this site, and that is owned by some entity involved

2177
03:12:51,660 --> 03:12:58,380
with Danny's transport. Across the railroad tracks, yes. So, can you go to the other slide that

2178
03:12:58,380 --> 03:13:01,600
the zoning of the different parcels?

2179
03:13:01,980 --> 03:13:02,660
I apologize.

2180
03:13:02,800 --> 03:13:04,220
Some of the labels might be off.

2181
03:13:05,740 --> 03:13:07,420
But I hope this helps.

2182
03:13:08,860 --> 03:13:10,080
Do you mind if I just highlight?

2183
03:13:10,740 --> 03:13:15,100
So these are actually, these are C1 right here, which is corridor commercial.

2184
03:13:15,220 --> 03:13:16,760
These are not, and that's baldwood.

2185
03:13:16,860 --> 03:13:18,020
This is baldwood, yes.

2186
03:13:18,220 --> 03:13:23,080
And then on Columbia here, these properties are zone C3, which is corridor commercial.

2187
03:13:23,840 --> 03:13:27,440
And then the proposal here would be M1, which is light manufacturing.

2188
03:13:27,440 --> 03:13:32,700
So, when you look in this immediate area, there's not industrial zoning within this viewpoint.

2189
03:13:32,980 --> 03:13:37,100
Now, as you go across the railroad tracks, that's where the industrial zoning starts on Columbia,

2190
03:13:37,320 --> 03:13:38,840
but not in this immediate vicinity.

2191
03:13:39,520 --> 03:13:39,720
Right.

2192
03:13:39,900 --> 03:13:46,600
So, across the railroad tracks, there's vacant land, that's zoned in industrial at various degrees,

2193
03:13:46,740 --> 03:13:51,980
and then we have General Motors properties, that's zoned in industrial of varying degrees.

2194
03:13:51,980 --> 03:13:57,740
So, that's part of the reason why I think that this request is not unreasonable, is because

2195
03:13:57,740 --> 03:14:02,380
of the Columbia court or the current composition.

2196
03:14:03,200 --> 03:14:09,440
I think that the conditions offered provide a great deal of protection and buffer and will

2197
03:14:09,440 --> 03:14:15,440
allow a lot more continuity of the Columbia court or then otherwise would exist.

2198
03:14:15,500 --> 03:14:21,700
Because if we revert to no change, I think many of us can anticipate what will happen.

2199
03:14:21,700 --> 03:14:30,040
It will be nothing. It will be vacant land, maybe for, maybe for a few years, maybe for a few decades, like we have in many other parts of our city.

2200
03:14:30,560 --> 03:14:31,820
So it's obviously a corridor.

2201
03:14:32,700 --> 03:14:36,100
The question is, is the use to intense?

2202
03:14:36,840 --> 03:14:51,240
It's to me strikes it as a hybrid, or it's got, you know, commercial landscaping business hybrid that would not be unduly intense for the surrounding vicinity.

2203
03:14:51,240 --> 03:14:59,980
And I am grateful that the residents, all of the residents who have weighed in, have been in support of it, no one unless there's somebody else.

2204
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:06,320
Members heard a contact that I haven't heard no one in public hearing at the planning commission,

2205
03:15:07,420 --> 03:15:14,560
or at the resident surrounding, or we received literally a petition advocating for the enhancement

2206
03:15:14,560 --> 03:15:20,940
for the development of that site. So that is definitely not worth it to me. And as you go, East

2207
03:15:20,940 --> 03:15:28,980
on Columbia, it's very heavily industrial, very rough. I would like to see a lot more landscaped

2208
03:15:28,980 --> 03:15:34,360
green maintains and that would be true for any of the parcels.

2209
03:15:34,360 --> 03:15:35,200
Councilman James.

2210
03:15:35,800 --> 03:15:43,220
And also, President, we're going to, I'm concerned that we don't want to lose any more

2211
03:15:43,880 --> 03:15:49,660
ground in that particular neighborhood because the CBS, could you point to where the CBS

2212
03:15:50,680 --> 03:15:54,420
that's on a long ball when has recently closed?

2213
03:15:54,600 --> 03:15:56,480
It's right across the street from...

2214
03:15:56,480 --> 03:16:11,480
You got the dollar store, dollar general, which is right in front of it, it's an older store, very poorly maintained, and now you have CVS that's closed.

2215
03:16:12,920 --> 03:16:14,460
Isn't that CVS?

2216
03:16:14,920 --> 03:16:16,420
Oh, it was right. Oh my gosh. Okay.

2217
03:16:16,420 --> 03:16:26,680
that is now closed, so we really are concerned about that corridor, that corner, that we don't want to see any more deterioration there.

2218
03:16:27,900 --> 03:16:32,700
So, again, I think that this is something that can work.

2219
03:16:33,400 --> 03:16:41,840
The residents that I have talked to want to see something, they are tired of the present condition.

2220
03:16:41,840 --> 03:16:44,720
And I can't, I can't make that point strong enough.

2221
03:16:45,260 --> 03:16:47,520
They are tired of the present condition.

2222
03:16:50,030 --> 03:16:52,030
Am I allowed to say anything further after you deliberately?

2223
03:16:52,390 --> 03:16:53,330
The sure interest, yes.

2224
03:16:53,750 --> 03:16:55,570
But next on the speaker, this is Consumant Parking.

2225
03:16:57,580 --> 03:16:58,060
Thank you, President.

2226
03:16:58,460 --> 03:17:00,260
Are you ready to start on this project, or can you do?

2227
03:17:00,420 --> 03:17:01,200
Right away.

2228
03:17:02,020 --> 03:17:07,380
If this gets approved, we're going to go to planning commission to start doing what we want

2229
03:17:07,380 --> 03:17:08,240
to do.

2230
03:17:08,540 --> 03:17:09,740
And there's no delay.

2231
03:17:09,880 --> 03:17:14,620
In fact, I am under the gun to get this going because our current business

2232
03:17:14,620 --> 03:17:17,200
Jason to that is running out of space.

2233
03:17:17,680 --> 03:17:18,500
That's why I'm here.

2234
03:17:18,680 --> 03:17:20,480
Does this project add any jobs to money?

2235
03:17:21,540 --> 03:17:22,060
Absolutely.

2236
03:17:22,460 --> 03:17:22,540
It does.

2237
03:17:22,740 --> 03:17:23,360
Let me tell you why.

2238
03:17:23,700 --> 03:17:24,640
I don't need to talk down.

2239
03:17:24,900 --> 03:17:31,100
What I'm saying is when we first came to Pontiac, that was when the city was under the financial

2240
03:17:31,100 --> 03:17:31,580
manager.

2241
03:17:32,520 --> 03:17:39,420
And workers from the DPW department, we hired them to drive our trucks because our company

2242
03:17:39,420 --> 03:17:42,140
did the snow removal for the City of Pontiac.

2243
03:17:42,140 --> 03:17:50,240
So, absolutely, if someone has a skill, if someone wants to apply for a job, go there, fill out the application.

2244
03:17:51,240 --> 03:17:57,340
I don't have decision making authority for hiring, but if someone wants a job, go there, fill out the application.

2245
03:17:57,900 --> 03:17:58,700
So, you do have positions.

2246
03:17:59,400 --> 03:18:04,320
I can't tell if this is open, but we will absolutely give everyone full consideration.

2247
03:18:05,600 --> 03:18:10,140
And I want to make sure that's not part of the condition that I appreciate that.

2248
03:18:12,230 --> 03:18:16,690
for their discussion, for their,

2249
03:18:17,170 --> 03:18:21,430
yeah, and I want to just reiterate,

2250
03:18:22,390 --> 03:18:24,330
and Councilperson James said it pretty clearly.

2251
03:18:25,030 --> 03:18:27,090
Several years ago, there was an old abandoned school

2252
03:18:27,090 --> 03:18:27,870
on that property.

2253
03:18:28,290 --> 03:18:31,510
My client out of their own pockets spent hundreds of thousands

2254
03:18:31,510 --> 03:18:32,850
of dollars in tear it down.

2255
03:18:33,490 --> 03:18:34,810
We took down that vacant school,

2256
03:18:35,030 --> 03:18:37,210
which was a new sense, which was a blank,

2257
03:18:37,210 --> 03:18:38,990
which was frankly a danger.

2258
03:18:38,990 --> 03:18:46,650
we took it down, that same client wants to spend tens of thousands of dollars to improve in

2259
03:18:46,650 --> 03:18:53,510
area in the city, that the residents and Jason to our support of, it's going to clean up that

2260
03:18:53,510 --> 03:18:58,570
area. And frankly, I'm a little bit troubled with the notion from the planning commission that

2261
03:18:58,570 --> 03:19:03,110
it doesn't fit in Councilperson President McGinnis, I'll tell you why, and I agree with you,

2262
03:19:03,110 --> 03:19:09,370
to the left of it is a dollar store, a family dollar, right next door to it is our business.

2263
03:19:09,810 --> 03:19:16,330
Across from it is industrial. It fits. It fits. My client is not a residential developer.

2264
03:19:16,970 --> 03:19:21,810
If this doesn't pass, he is not going to build houses there. That's just not what he does.

2265
03:19:22,510 --> 03:19:26,030
So it is going to sit vacant. It's not going to be improved. So we have an option.

2266
03:19:26,370 --> 03:19:31,250
Can we do something that makes sense from a practical and logistical perspective?

2267
03:19:31,250 --> 03:19:36,690
or do we say no, and it just sits there and remains vacant for many, many years.

2268
03:19:37,290 --> 03:19:40,790
I don't want to get personal, but I sit on the Plain of Commission and City Council

2269
03:19:40,790 --> 03:19:44,750
in the City, I live in. And I'm faced with these decisions all the time, and at the end

2270
03:19:44,750 --> 03:19:50,890
of the day, it's what does the resident want? What is in the best interest of the city and the

2271
03:19:50,890 --> 03:19:58,010
residents? And for the life of me, I cannot imagine that the decision makers would say no to this.

2272
03:19:58,010 --> 03:20:04,010
We're coming to you with a presentation to develop and improve a parcel of property that

2273
03:20:04,010 --> 03:20:09,450
us otherwise underutilized, add our own expense, and that's what we want to do.

2274
03:20:10,190 --> 03:20:13,790
I will answer any other questions that anyone has, including Mr. Mayor.

2275
03:20:15,350 --> 03:20:20,190
And I want to highlight that from what I've gathered over the years, part of the reason

2276
03:20:20,190 --> 03:20:26,530
why it's in a purgatory state is because there was the conditional rezoning, the property

2277
03:20:26,530 --> 03:20:29,790
the owner thought they were still in the clear to keep going.

2278
03:20:30,230 --> 03:20:33,930
So that in terms of the demolition of the school at their expense.

2279
03:20:34,390 --> 03:20:36,790
And then they wanted to pursue redevelopment when the C said,

2280
03:20:36,870 --> 03:20:39,370
no, there was a time expiration on that.

2281
03:20:39,550 --> 03:20:41,570
You have to, you know, you have to come back.

2282
03:20:41,970 --> 03:20:45,310
It's been a very, you know, circuitous winding path.

2283
03:20:45,310 --> 03:20:49,350
And that's why we're here today because they need a new conditional rezoning.

2284
03:20:49,410 --> 03:20:52,370
That conditional rezoning was granted in 2018.

2285
03:20:53,030 --> 03:20:55,930
And then as they began the demolition,

2286
03:20:55,930 --> 03:21:01,530
we know about the pandemic that doesn't excuse it is just the reality based on what has been

2287
03:21:01,530 --> 03:21:05,850
shared over the years at the Planning Commission and now for the multiple readings that

2288
03:21:05,850 --> 03:21:07,070
this has come to us.

2289
03:21:07,630 --> 03:21:11,510
Further deliberation on the matter before us, I'd like to call for the vote.

2290
03:21:12,690 --> 03:21:16,650
Well, you're the last one on the speaker says so if no one else is speaking, we can vote

2291
03:21:16,650 --> 03:21:19,510
on the matter here and nothing further.

2292
03:21:19,510 --> 03:21:25,110
We are at the adoption of an ordinance to amend, which would have provided a conditional

2293
03:21:25,110 --> 03:21:25,770
rezoning.

2294
03:21:26,210 --> 03:21:31,770
If work does not begin or satisfactorily reach the threshold within two years, it reverts

2295
03:21:31,770 --> 03:21:38,070
back to its original current zoning, but this is the address of 43 East Columbia for

2296
03:21:38,070 --> 03:21:39,670
this one specific parcel.

2297
03:21:40,450 --> 03:21:42,610
Everyone clear on the matter before us?

2298
03:21:42,610 --> 03:21:48,850
Hearing none, roll call, cork, door, and adoption of the zoning map amendment.

2299
03:21:49,370 --> 03:21:50,050
McGinnis?

2300
03:21:50,350 --> 03:21:50,630
Yes.

2301
03:21:51,470 --> 03:21:51,730
Parker?

2302
03:21:53,670 --> 03:21:54,030
Carrington?

2303
03:21:54,450 --> 03:21:54,670
No.

2304
03:21:55,870 --> 03:21:56,230
Goodman?

2305
03:21:57,990 --> 03:21:58,290
No.

2306
03:22:00,090 --> 03:22:00,530
James?

2307
03:22:01,070 --> 03:22:01,370
Yes.

2308
03:22:02,070 --> 03:22:02,390
Jones.

2309
03:22:06,820 --> 03:22:08,160
Well, the residents approved it.

2310
03:22:08,580 --> 03:22:08,880
Yes.

2311
03:22:10,520 --> 03:22:11,200
4a's.

2312
03:22:11,340 --> 03:22:11,740
2 nays.

2313
03:22:12,840 --> 03:22:15,260
That motion, I believe, carries as any four or five.

2314
03:22:15,260 --> 03:22:21,500
All right, so the majority resones it conditionally, but there is a time sunset on the matter.

2315
03:22:22,420 --> 03:22:26,100
All right, we have concludes number six for at number seven on the agenda.

2316
03:22:26,720 --> 03:22:32,360
This is similarly another rezoning request that's come to the city of Pontiac from the property owner.

2317
03:22:32,620 --> 03:22:38,140
This is at 11 Mohawk Road, proposing it to go from R1 to R2.

2318
03:22:38,260 --> 03:22:40,260
We give the floor to the mayor and staff.

2319
03:22:41,660 --> 03:22:46,860
Thank you. This is another matter that we've discussed at the last city council meeting.

2320
03:22:47,260 --> 03:22:54,160
This, too, is rezoning, a proposed rezoning from R1 to R2 in the Indian Village neighborhood,

2321
03:22:54,340 --> 03:23:00,260
just off of the north side of Huron and with that, I'll turn it over to the planning manager.

2322
03:23:00,780 --> 03:23:04,580
All right. Good evening again. So this is another zoning map amendment second reading.

2323
03:23:04,580 --> 03:23:10,420
Tonight's request is from R1 to R2, so it's from one family to allow for a duplex,

2324
03:23:10,520 --> 03:23:11,900
which is R2.

2325
03:23:12,280 --> 03:23:16,080
It's 11 Mohawk, which is just north of West, you're on.

2326
03:23:16,100 --> 03:23:19,660
This is a little farther west of the former Webster School.

2327
03:23:20,120 --> 03:23:21,120
It's a zoning map amendment.

2328
03:23:21,220 --> 03:23:23,880
The applicant is AMG Visionaries holding LLC.

2329
03:23:25,480 --> 03:23:26,900
Tonight is, again, the second reading.

2330
03:23:27,120 --> 03:23:29,980
This went to a public hearing in April at Planet Commission.

2331
03:23:29,980 --> 03:23:38,740
So, this is the location of, and I want to point out, it is the, essentially the first, what

2332
03:23:38,740 --> 03:23:41,420
is currently zone single family home as you get into Mohawk.

2333
03:23:41,480 --> 03:23:47,180
Now, the properties of the front-along west here on are zoned R2, which allow for due

2334
03:23:47,180 --> 03:23:47,640
plexus.

2335
03:23:48,140 --> 03:23:52,620
But, you know, it, and additionally across the street, it's zoned R1, but there is a,

2336
03:23:52,620 --> 03:23:56,480
what I would consider potentially a grandfathered due plexus across the street as well.

2337
03:23:56,480 --> 03:23:59,860
So this is an area that has a lot of dueplexes

2338
03:23:59,860 --> 03:24:01,800
that it's like the character of the area.

2339
03:24:01,980 --> 03:24:03,520
It's not like it's in the middle of the neighborhood

2340
03:24:03,520 --> 03:24:05,480
and they're requesting a rezoning.

2341
03:24:07,060 --> 03:24:11,780
This highlights the property itself and looks at the parcels.

2342
03:24:12,340 --> 03:24:17,180
So I, one of the things is there is a driveway here.

2343
03:24:17,500 --> 03:24:18,960
There's an opportunity for parking

2344
03:24:18,960 --> 03:24:20,660
on the south side of the property as well.

2345
03:24:20,740 --> 03:24:22,700
And then there are two parking spaces in the back.

2346
03:24:23,140 --> 03:24:25,520
I did want to point out that these are owned by other owners,

2347
03:24:25,520 --> 03:24:27,420
and this is not part of the property itself,

2348
03:24:27,700 --> 03:24:29,460
but this area does act as an alleyway

2349
03:24:29,460 --> 03:24:32,360
to get to some of the adjacent properties right here.

2350
03:24:33,500 --> 03:24:37,940
This is the building of picture taken from January.

2351
03:24:40,000 --> 03:24:43,340
So this is a traditional neighborhood residential district

2352
03:24:43,340 --> 03:24:44,400
in the master plan.

2353
03:24:45,180 --> 03:24:48,200
I wanna point out both in the 2014-2025.

2354
03:24:48,520 --> 03:24:50,960
It really, the difference between R1 and R2

2355
03:24:50,960 --> 03:24:53,300
is not really reflected in the city's land use,

2356
03:24:53,300 --> 03:24:54,280
future land use map.

2357
03:24:54,280 --> 03:25:02,080
So it's really a difficult barometer that's really not anything to use because it's essentially

2358
03:25:02,080 --> 03:25:03,540
allows for both uses.

2359
03:25:04,540 --> 03:25:10,800
The structure was constructed in 1930, now and just to reiterate, the property was listed

2360
03:25:10,800 --> 03:25:17,600
in the duplex in old city records, but sometime before 2017 was converted to a single family.

2361
03:25:18,020 --> 03:25:22,480
At that time, any grandfathering legal not conformities went away.

2362
03:25:22,480 --> 03:25:33,060
And so the purchase, the, at the time of the purchase, the property was utilized as a duplex structure prior to that.

2363
03:25:33,800 --> 03:25:38,160
There are duplex structures in the neighborhood as I'm going to mentioned.

2364
03:25:38,780 --> 03:25:44,740
And I've already talked about the surrounding areas being zoned R1, R2, excuse me,

2365
03:25:44,780 --> 03:25:48,320
and there are other properties in the neighborhood zones C1 and R3.

2366
03:25:48,320 --> 03:25:53,080
The applicant has not provided any conditions, so this is a straight up, a regular rezoning.

2367
03:25:54,400 --> 03:26:00,560
And the only real difference is, as you look at what's permitted by right and what's permitted by special exception,

2368
03:26:00,880 --> 03:26:05,040
is really that there's a few additional things that are permitted by right.

2369
03:26:05,060 --> 03:26:06,800
That would be the two-family dwelling unit.

2370
03:26:07,220 --> 03:26:10,900
There are a few additional things that are allowed a special exception, but in large,

2371
03:26:11,260 --> 03:26:13,000
they're rather similar for what's permitted.

2372
03:26:13,000 --> 03:26:13,000
it.

2373
03:26:15,700 --> 03:26:23,240
And I think we've gone through that. I just wanted to highlight the existing structures

2374
03:26:23,880 --> 03:26:28,920
in the neighborhoods that are zoned R1, but are listed as dueplexes. They're going through

2375
03:26:28,920 --> 03:26:33,640
the rental program through the city. So those are listed by the blue stars there. There

2376
03:26:33,640 --> 03:26:37,320
are seven or ten standards of approval for rezoning.

2377
03:26:39,640 --> 03:26:42,900
In general, this staff found that

2378
03:26:42,900 --> 03:26:48,180
in general, this met the standards of approval for rezoning, especially because of the surrounding

2379
03:26:48,180 --> 03:26:54,620
neighborhoods. And the fact that this house is a certain size, the you're not going to notice

2380
03:26:54,620 --> 03:27:00,200
a difference. There's no construction being planned. I know one of the questions from Mr. McGinnis

2381
03:27:00,200 --> 03:27:07,740
from the last meeting was how big is the parcel? And, you know, at the current with, there's not

2382
03:27:07,740 --> 03:27:12,240
an ability to add on to this building any further. You know, there's currently enough roadway,

2383
03:27:12,240 --> 03:27:20,260
There's enough that meets the setbacks that there really is not an opportunity to construct this beyond what renovations take place inside the house.

2384
03:27:21,520 --> 03:27:30,040
So, you know, if you notice the width of this at Mohawk is 38 feet. So this is actually legal not conforming for this neighborhood.

2385
03:27:30,180 --> 03:27:35,800
Now the rear is for the other properties a little wider just because Mohawk is on an arc there.

2386
03:27:35,800 --> 03:27:44,880
But they would not this building is really restricted and could not be utilized, you know, build upon any further than what the current environment exists.

2387
03:27:49,560 --> 03:27:54,380
Mohawk is designated as a residential street while suited to accommodate residential type traffic.

2388
03:27:55,020 --> 03:27:58,140
With a duplex, you were required two spaces per unit.

2389
03:27:58,720 --> 03:28:05,500
So they have the ability to park four spaces on the site, which most days there may not be parking along Mohawk.

2390
03:28:05,500 --> 03:28:08,500
So the hope is that under reasonable, you know,

2391
03:28:08,580 --> 03:28:12,080
at most times this should not impact any street parking

2392
03:28:12,080 --> 03:28:15,260
or a long net, a long net road.

2393
03:28:17,340 --> 03:28:19,160
The applicant's really the one that is request

2394
03:28:19,160 --> 03:28:20,640
to the parcel will be resound.

2395
03:28:22,060 --> 03:28:24,380
The request seems reasonable and will not be disruptive

2396
03:28:24,380 --> 03:28:26,480
to adjacent properties since this property

2397
03:28:26,480 --> 03:28:29,620
has been used as a dueplex type structure in the past,

2398
03:28:30,480 --> 03:28:32,840
and currently resides as a single family home.

2399
03:28:34,600 --> 03:28:39,860
The city is staff is not really doing an assessment of if there are a renter and owner.

2400
03:28:40,400 --> 03:28:44,980
We see those as being the same type of use and same type of impact.

2401
03:28:45,920 --> 03:28:51,280
So Plenty Commission made a recommendation of 4-1 to reason the parcel without any conditions.

2402
03:28:51,920 --> 03:28:55,300
So that is my staff report and the applicant's representative is here again tonight.

2403
03:28:55,700 --> 03:28:56,360
Thank you.

2404
03:28:56,460 --> 03:28:57,440
Thank you.

2405
03:28:57,440 --> 03:29:03,080
the applicant and they're represented, going to further elaborate on your proposal and request

2406
03:29:03,080 --> 03:29:03,880
to the city of Pania.

2407
03:29:09,260 --> 03:29:09,760
Good evening.

2408
03:29:10,440 --> 03:29:16,340
I am Fram Bond at and I am the property manager of this location and what we are requesting

2409
03:29:16,340 --> 03:29:23,560
is just to move another family in to the city of Pania where the kids will go to school.

2410
03:29:24,220 --> 03:29:30,840
They will do their shopping and utilize the neighborhood and the city and spend their

2411
03:29:30,840 --> 03:29:39,100
here. As of right now we do have one family in there and the lower unit. It is a

2412
03:29:39,100 --> 03:29:45,080
section eight and that's what we are also looking to do is to bring another

2413
03:29:45,080 --> 03:29:51,840
family in a probably section eight to utilize that other unit.

2414
03:29:57,450 --> 03:29:58,030
We're just asking for

2415
03:29:58,030 --> 03:29:59,810
your guys as approval so we can move forward.

2416
03:30:00,430 --> 03:30:25,330
Thank you very much. My question, Manager Yandrick. Part of what I was getting to you spoke to, it was, I want to know, what is the city of Rekwire in terms of space. You've spoken previously at the Planning Commission that there's adequate pad, concrete pad, or parking, be it asphalt, or whatever the surface is, there's adequate parking to allow for multiple vehicles on the parcel itself.

2417
03:30:25,330 --> 03:30:28,130
So, there's no concerns from staff on that regard.

2418
03:30:28,630 --> 03:30:31,190
I'm trying to understand, we understand over the decades.

2419
03:30:31,570 --> 03:30:33,050
It's been a duplex, not a duplex.

2420
03:30:33,450 --> 03:30:35,210
You know, it's evolved.

2421
03:30:35,970 --> 03:30:39,990
But based on what, 2025, Pontiac requirements are,

2422
03:30:40,270 --> 03:30:44,830
is there even sufficient square footage in the structure

2423
03:30:44,830 --> 03:30:48,830
to provide for whatever is required for, you know,

2424
03:30:49,230 --> 03:30:50,490
there to be two separate units?

2425
03:30:51,230 --> 03:30:53,510
Do you know that, if I can ask the Opposition real quickly,

2426
03:30:53,510 --> 03:30:56,190
Do you know the square footage of the upstairs and downstairs?

2427
03:30:57,190 --> 03:31:03,590
The downstairs is a three bedroom, one bath, and it's probably about 900 square feet.

2428
03:31:04,690 --> 03:31:07,730
Where the minimum requirement is 600 square feet.

2429
03:31:08,250 --> 03:31:08,670
Okay, so.

2430
03:31:08,670 --> 03:31:10,790
The upstairs is the same.

2431
03:31:11,450 --> 03:31:18,070
So based on the house's construction, there's a similar floor plan or layout for both floors.

2432
03:31:18,070 --> 03:31:24,690
Could do you get the sense from the property that that is the deal that there was a unit main level and then a unit

2433
03:31:24,690 --> 03:31:30,130
Second story based on the configuration of the home and the bathrooms and all that jazz

2434
03:31:31,710 --> 03:31:38,110
All right, so that was my main question like I don't want to us to even waste that time if it if the structure as it stands now

2435
03:31:38,110 --> 03:31:42,270
Wouldn't even support what the city requires for two units?

2436
03:31:42,270 --> 03:31:44,290
That was the nature of my question.

2437
03:31:45,010 --> 03:31:48,350
So you're saying the thought size, the property size,

2438
03:31:49,510 --> 03:31:52,590
the number of vehicles that can comfortably be parked there.

2439
03:31:53,610 --> 03:31:57,750
The one thing to disclose is that this is an existing building.

2440
03:31:58,090 --> 03:32:00,870
So to ask for a rezoning is within the applicant's request.

2441
03:32:01,090 --> 03:32:03,390
Now if there wasn't a building here,

2442
03:32:03,950 --> 03:32:09,630
you actually need 60 feet of width to be able to construct a building.

2443
03:32:09,630 --> 03:32:13,410
Now, if that makes sense, so if there was no building there,

2444
03:32:13,510 --> 03:32:18,250
this would not be wide enough, but with the current building size

2445
03:32:18,250 --> 03:32:20,350
and stuff like that, it does meet the other requirements.

2446
03:32:20,930 --> 03:32:22,790
But to the south, there is R2.

2447
03:32:22,950 --> 03:32:26,150
So let's say 50 or 60 years from now,

2448
03:32:26,150 --> 03:32:29,210
you know, Colombia struck in their weren't structures there

2449
03:32:29,210 --> 03:32:33,690
to rebuild something that was at least satisfying R2.

2450
03:32:33,830 --> 03:32:37,350
There could be lot combinations or some sort of scenario there.

2451
03:32:37,350 --> 03:32:47,350
All right. What is the zoning for the former church that's adjacent to the parcel, but to the south and the west on here on?

2452
03:32:48,390 --> 03:32:52,130
It's a beautiful church. I'm sad that it's been vacant for a minute.

2453
03:32:52,490 --> 03:32:54,810
I'm just trying to understand the zoning there.

2454
03:32:55,830 --> 03:32:58,050
Is it on this map? Is it right here?

2455
03:32:58,110 --> 03:32:59,630
It's the big.

2456
03:33:00,590 --> 03:33:02,190
That is also zoned R2.

2457
03:33:02,590 --> 03:33:03,850
Okay, so it's existing R2.

2458
03:33:03,890 --> 03:33:04,530
Yeah, it's correct.

2459
03:33:05,690 --> 03:33:10,510
So there's R2 and then it kind of goes up in density to R3, is it?

2460
03:33:10,810 --> 03:33:10,990
No.

2461
03:33:11,210 --> 03:33:13,050
So corridor commercial as you go along here on.

2462
03:33:13,130 --> 03:33:13,770
I don't mean that.

2463
03:33:13,770 --> 03:33:14,990
I mean along here on.

2464
03:33:15,850 --> 03:33:20,150
It goes over to C1 as you see one.

2465
03:33:20,590 --> 03:33:25,230
And then there's also a mix of other residential uses as you go west of the west of this aerial photo.

2466
03:33:25,750 --> 03:33:25,810
Okay.

2467
03:33:25,930 --> 03:33:26,250
Thank you.

2468
03:33:26,290 --> 03:33:27,330
Other questioner debate?

2469
03:33:28,790 --> 03:33:29,650
Complement Jones.

2470
03:33:33,920 --> 03:33:36,680
I guess I'll start with my feedback and then I'll follow up with my questions.

2471
03:33:36,680 --> 03:33:42,820
And I personally just don't think that this idea is in keeping with the neighborhood, as

2472
03:33:42,820 --> 03:33:46,940
I'm also shared with my residents in Indian Village.

2473
03:33:48,560 --> 03:33:55,880
Primarily because it's a primary, you know, R1 community for duplexes in the subdivision

2474
03:33:55,880 --> 03:34:02,040
does not scream, fitting, you know, to me to reason this as a duplex.

2475
03:34:02,040 --> 03:34:32,020
But also, in the draft master plan, approximately on page 108, Indian Village is distinctly mentioned as a potential emerging historic district, which, to me, means that extra consideration on the character of the neighborhood and all of its characteristics need to be preserved and, you know, should be upheld, especially, you know, when merging off to potentially city recognized historic district or, what is it national, is the other option?

2476
03:34:32,040 --> 03:34:37,360
So, those are my concerns there, but I am wondering, does this, I know you'd like for

2477
03:34:37,360 --> 03:34:43,880
it to be two units, but does the building have two kitchens upstairs and down?

2478
03:34:44,300 --> 03:34:47,240
Okay, and total, one bathroom upstairs, one bathroom downstairs?

2479
03:34:48,460 --> 03:34:48,980
Interesting.

2480
03:34:49,880 --> 03:34:52,200
And if you don't mind me, just a point of information.

2481
03:34:52,300 --> 03:34:53,480
I mentioned it first reading.

2482
03:34:54,120 --> 03:34:58,480
This previously was a duplex up until around 2017 or sometime before then.

2483
03:34:58,480 --> 03:35:04,780
at 2017, it was listed as a single family, and then in 2023, Jack McIntyre in his codenforced

2484
03:35:04,780 --> 03:35:10,120
manager role happened to be driving by in witness and started ticketing the old owner,

2485
03:35:10,520 --> 03:35:12,600
not this owner before it was sold.

2486
03:35:12,900 --> 03:35:18,420
And so we don't know if that was the renovations that kitchen, maybe it was removed, we don't

2487
03:35:18,420 --> 03:35:20,240
know what happened to that interim time.

2488
03:35:20,800 --> 03:35:21,160
Look at that.

2489
03:35:21,200 --> 03:35:22,660
Can I ask if I'll up to energy and Rick?

2490
03:35:22,920 --> 03:35:26,360
So maybe you can clarify for me, does a result?

2491
03:35:26,360 --> 03:35:30,840
I know that it does not have any bearing on a city recognized historic district, but as a

2492
03:35:30,840 --> 03:35:36,220
rezoning of this property, if Indian village were to emerge as a historic district,

2493
03:35:37,640 --> 03:35:45,540
would that rezoning compromise potential international recognition of the subdivision as

2494
03:35:45,540 --> 03:35:45,880
historic?

2495
03:35:46,160 --> 03:35:47,220
That's a great question.

2496
03:35:47,580 --> 03:35:51,400
So, one of the key things here about the historic district has to do with the physical

2497
03:35:51,400 --> 03:35:53,840
elements and the history that lays here.

2498
03:35:53,840 --> 03:36:00,400
converting in a lot of times historical communities don't look at the inside of buildings.

2499
03:36:00,860 --> 03:36:05,080
Now, again, don't get me wrong. There are certain historical buildings that the inside

2500
03:36:05,080 --> 03:36:08,920
of the building is what's historic, but generally when we're looking at historic districts

2501
03:36:08,920 --> 03:36:13,440
in the city of Pontiac, we're looking at the outside features. And so I think there would be a

2502
03:36:13,440 --> 03:36:18,920
little bit more concern if there was a proposal with this application to do a massive renovation

2503
03:36:18,920 --> 03:36:24,700
or, you know, to affect the elements of the facade of the building, the outside of the building,

2504
03:36:25,160 --> 03:36:29,480
but that is now what is being proposed here. Other than they may potentially need an outside

2505
03:36:29,480 --> 03:36:35,140
door when it goes to the building, per my process, but it really should not compromise that

2506
03:36:35,140 --> 03:36:41,540
history. Right, if it were to happen. Okay, so no additional construction is anticipated for this

2507
03:36:41,540 --> 03:36:42,700
if it were to pass, okay.

2508
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:43,860
Thank you.

2509
03:36:45,080 --> 03:36:46,080
For the discussion?

2510
03:36:48,320 --> 03:36:50,320
So, thank you, Councilman Jones,

2511
03:36:50,580 --> 03:36:52,380
and I know you've been in touch with a number of residents.

2512
03:36:52,940 --> 03:36:56,740
She's flagging in the master plan that is soon to be updated

2513
03:36:56,740 --> 03:36:59,860
and enacted, is that the long term vision

2514
03:36:59,860 --> 03:37:01,580
that there would be this historic,

2515
03:37:01,580 --> 03:37:03,940
it's historic with a lower case age.

2516
03:37:04,280 --> 03:37:07,080
The vision is establishing it as an additional,

2517
03:37:07,080 --> 03:37:13,760
perhaps the six or one of the next newly designated historic districts that would have

2518
03:37:13,760 --> 03:37:18,480
additional thresholds to meet to kind of keep the integrity and character of the

2519
03:37:18,480 --> 03:37:23,320
neighborhood intact. Is that something that the administration is looking to initiate

2520
03:37:23,320 --> 03:37:25,420
in the near future or is that more of a long term?

2521
03:37:26,080 --> 03:37:30,880
That is not a short term, but if I remember correctly, I believe it's a medium-term goal. And part of

2522
03:37:30,880 --> 03:37:35,800
that is of doing an evaluation. And that is the city council working with administration, working

2523
03:37:35,800 --> 03:37:41,660
with the community of that neighborhood to see if that's something that would like to proceed.

2524
03:37:41,800 --> 03:37:46,540
And that is a whole process to determine whether something becomes a historic district.

2525
03:37:46,860 --> 03:37:54,000
And so that is a medium-term goal within the master plan to evaluate and then if recommended

2526
03:37:54,000 --> 03:37:55,820
then proceed forward with the plan.

2527
03:37:56,720 --> 03:38:02,940
It's your professional assessment that a change of R1, whether it's R1 or R2 does not

2528
03:38:02,940 --> 03:38:05,660
hinder his historic district consideration.

2529
03:38:07,740 --> 03:38:09,880
For the discussion on the motion before us,

2530
03:38:10,300 --> 03:38:12,880
the request is whether to have this highlighted green

2531
03:38:12,880 --> 03:38:15,320
parcel currently R1.

2532
03:38:15,900 --> 03:38:18,040
I mean, not always been R1, but it's currently R1.

2533
03:38:18,500 --> 03:38:23,180
And whether it's approved by us as the people of Pontiac

2534
03:38:23,180 --> 03:38:26,320
to allow to be R2, any final question or clarification.

2535
03:38:28,140 --> 03:38:28,440
All right.

2536
03:38:29,420 --> 03:38:31,180
Hearing none, adaptive and north-east.

2537
03:38:31,180 --> 03:38:32,400
We never had a move.

2538
03:38:32,800 --> 03:38:33,160
Oh, Lord.

2539
03:38:33,940 --> 03:38:34,560
All right.

2540
03:38:34,840 --> 03:38:37,020
Is there, oh, I thought there was a move in a second.

2541
03:38:39,720 --> 03:38:39,880
OK.

2542
03:38:40,180 --> 03:38:42,100
But so you don't show a record of a move in a second.

2543
03:38:42,540 --> 03:38:42,660
No.

2544
03:38:42,660 --> 03:38:42,840
All right.

2545
03:38:43,080 --> 03:38:43,500
Who moves?

2546
03:38:44,440 --> 03:38:45,240
Who seconds?

2547
03:38:46,280 --> 03:38:46,560
Second.

2548
03:38:46,700 --> 03:38:46,980
OK.

2549
03:38:47,100 --> 03:38:50,160
It's been moved by Councilman Jones, second by Councilman Goodman.

2550
03:38:50,260 --> 03:38:52,120
Now we can discuss it just getting to be happy.

2551
03:38:52,340 --> 03:38:54,260
So here are no further discussion.

2552
03:38:55,040 --> 03:38:56,040
Here are no further discussion.

2553
03:38:57,200 --> 03:39:00,000
Clerk Doyle, we're about to vote on adoption of an ordinance to amend

2554
03:39:00,000 --> 03:39:02,000
to the City of Pontiac Committee.

2555
03:39:02,340 --> 03:39:04,200
Article 2, Section 2.103, Zoning Map,

2556
03:39:04,300 --> 03:39:06,360
to change the Zoning Classifications for

2557
03:39:06,360 --> 03:39:07,960
one specific parcel on the west side of

2558
03:39:07,960 --> 03:39:09,960
Mohawk Road, between West Huron Street and

2559
03:39:09,960 --> 03:39:11,900
North Genesea Avenue, this amendment to

2560
03:39:11,900 --> 03:39:13,940
reason the parcel of the Levin Mohawk Road from

2561
03:39:13,940 --> 03:39:15,660
R1 to R2.

2562
03:39:16,220 --> 03:39:17,560
Clerk Doyle, roll call.

2563
03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:18,320
Harker?

2564
03:39:18,620 --> 03:39:18,640
No.

2565
03:39:20,360 --> 03:39:20,980
Carrying, saying?

2566
03:39:22,800 --> 03:39:23,400
Good, man.

2567
03:39:23,920 --> 03:39:24,200
Yes.

2568
03:39:25,360 --> 03:39:25,680
James?

2569
03:39:26,900 --> 03:39:27,160
Yes?

2570
03:39:28,260 --> 03:39:28,640
Jones?

2571
03:39:31,600 --> 03:39:32,120
Yes?

2572
03:39:33,340 --> 03:39:33,520
Yes.

2573
03:39:33,520 --> 03:39:34,280
Three, yes.

2574
03:39:34,640 --> 03:39:35,140
Three, yes.

2575
03:39:35,640 --> 03:39:35,660
Three, yes.

2576
03:39:35,660 --> 03:39:36,040
All right.

2577
03:39:36,240 --> 03:39:37,500
With that, the motion fails.

2578
03:39:38,560 --> 03:39:40,340
A tie means no majority.

2579
03:39:40,980 --> 03:39:44,660
So, the zoning remains the same at this juncture.

2580
03:39:47,000 --> 03:39:48,000
Everyone clear on that?

2581
03:39:48,280 --> 03:39:50,660
Now, we're at number 80 on the agenda.

2582
03:39:51,520 --> 03:39:53,500
Adoption of an ordinance to amend the municipal code.

2583
03:39:54,260 --> 03:39:57,800
It's updating codes by the state of Michigan and international code council.

2584
03:39:57,800 --> 03:40:01,620
Council, ICC, with all amendments. Is there a motion to approve?

2585
03:40:02,660 --> 03:40:03,180
I'm not sure.

2586
03:40:03,920 --> 03:40:07,100
It's been moved by Councilman James, seconded by Councilman Goodman.

2587
03:40:07,520 --> 03:40:11,920
This is to have the city's building codes be updated with what the state's got going,

2588
03:40:12,180 --> 03:40:14,260
as with the fire code. Anything else clear?

2589
03:40:15,280 --> 03:40:18,220
Well, just very quickly, and I know we talked about this last week,

2590
03:40:18,860 --> 03:40:20,840
and Director Lockrink can get in all the details,

2591
03:40:21,420 --> 03:40:27,500
but there have been times when the code adopted by the city has not been in sync with that

2592
03:40:27,500 --> 03:40:33,920
adopted by the state, meaning that the city may use an older code or a newer code and by

2593
03:40:33,920 --> 03:40:36,660
that, I mean, versions of the code, then the state.

2594
03:40:36,820 --> 03:40:42,420
And we want to be in sync with the state, this language would say that whatever the current

2595
03:40:42,420 --> 03:40:47,780
code in use and adopted by the state is, so shall it be in the city of Pontiac.

2596
03:40:47,860 --> 03:40:50,120
And with that, I'll turn it over to Director Logrin.

2597
03:40:51,440 --> 03:40:53,600
The mayor is absolutely correct in what he said.

2598
03:40:53,600 --> 03:41:03,160
I'm here to just ask for your vote, so that we may do this maintenance adjustment to our municipal code.

2599
03:41:03,700 --> 03:41:13,620
The state of Michigan adopted a new building code, which also includes the electrical code, the plumbing code and the mechanical code on April 9th of this year.

2600
03:41:14,020 --> 03:41:23,580
So what we're doing is we are bringing our municipal ordinance in line with what the state has adopted and said that the state of Michigan municipality should you.

2601
03:41:24,480 --> 03:41:44,440
In addition to what the mayor said, I will just add one note, and what we are doing is we are also allowing the automatic adoption of any changes, any amendments, if you will, to the municipal code, the Michigan building code, as approved by the state of Michigan.

2602
03:41:44,440 --> 03:41:51,420
That way, we will always be in line with the state no matter what adjustments they make to the code.

2603
03:41:51,980 --> 03:42:01,900
We will automatically follow nine and be reviewing for the highest review approvals that we can offer to our businesses coming in.

2604
03:42:02,320 --> 03:42:06,480
Well, thank you for quickly bringing to us so swiftly after the state has made their changes.

2605
03:42:07,700 --> 03:42:10,660
Any discussion on the motion before us?

2606
03:42:10,660 --> 03:42:16,520
Are there other municipalities that do that same sort of automatic tie bar to the state?

2607
03:42:16,680 --> 03:42:17,100
Absolutely.

2608
03:42:18,540 --> 03:42:19,880
Thank you.

2609
03:42:20,320 --> 03:42:21,700
Hearing no further discussion?

2610
03:42:22,580 --> 03:42:26,680
This is again the second reading that's been before us previously two weeks ago.

2611
03:42:26,880 --> 03:42:31,520
Hearing no further discussion, roll call, cork, doil, on adoption of that ordinance amendment.

2612
03:42:32,240 --> 03:42:32,880
Carrington?

2613
03:42:34,260 --> 03:42:35,040
Good, yes.

2614
03:42:35,580 --> 03:42:35,900
James.

2615
03:42:36,260 --> 03:42:36,520
Yes.

2616
03:42:36,980 --> 03:42:37,220
Jones.

2617
03:42:37,680 --> 03:42:38,180
Yes.

2618
03:42:38,180 --> 03:42:39,020
Yes.

2619
03:42:40,840 --> 03:42:41,400
Sixiers.

2620
03:42:41,700 --> 03:42:42,060
No names.

2621
03:42:42,420 --> 03:42:44,300
Motion carries the ordinances amended.

2622
03:42:44,540 --> 03:42:45,100
Thank you.

2623
03:42:45,280 --> 03:42:47,080
We're at number nine on the agenda.

2624
03:42:47,600 --> 03:42:51,800
This is related to what we've previously adopted with number six.

2625
03:42:52,020 --> 03:42:57,720
This authorizes and permits the city to proceed with the executing the agreement for those

2626
03:42:57,720 --> 03:43:03,040
safeguards for the surrounding propioners on that 43s Columbia, so that way those

2627
03:43:03,040 --> 03:43:04,940
can be codified.

2628
03:43:04,940 --> 03:43:07,220
Is there a motion to adopt that resolution?

2629
03:43:08,880 --> 03:43:12,740
It was moved by Councilman Parker,

2630
03:43:12,860 --> 03:43:14,140
seconded by Councilman Jones.

2631
03:43:14,800 --> 03:43:17,200
So that resolution regarding the conditional

2632
03:43:17,200 --> 03:43:19,980
rezoning agreement on 43 East Columbia's before us.

2633
03:43:20,180 --> 03:43:21,620
Mayor and planning team.

2634
03:43:27,760 --> 03:43:29,400
This is, again, pretty simple.

2635
03:43:29,640 --> 03:43:32,980
It's just allowing the formal execution of the agreement

2636
03:43:32,980 --> 03:43:36,000
that constitutes the conditions that were offered

2637
03:43:36,000 --> 03:43:37,840
by the applicant for 43 East Columbia.

2638
03:43:37,840 --> 03:43:40,680
I don't know, manager Yandrick, if you have anything to add.

2639
03:43:41,100 --> 03:43:45,080
And just procedurally, once this is signed by the applicant and the mayor, it is recorded

2640
03:43:45,080 --> 03:43:50,520
on the property and it just helps us enforce these ordinance and that the site plan and

2641
03:43:50,520 --> 03:43:52,440
the construction takes place in a timely manner.

2642
03:43:53,240 --> 03:43:53,440
Thank you.

2643
03:43:53,580 --> 03:43:54,320
Any further discussion?

2644
03:43:55,840 --> 03:43:56,640
Any further discussion?

2645
03:43:56,800 --> 03:43:57,480
Roll call clerk.

2646
03:43:57,520 --> 03:43:59,860
Doyle, I'll endop you the resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute.

2647
03:44:00,300 --> 03:44:02,560
The conditional rezoning agreement on 43 is Columbia.

2648
03:44:04,220 --> 03:44:04,820
Yes.

2649
03:44:05,620 --> 03:44:05,760
Yes.

2650
03:44:06,300 --> 03:44:06,640
Yes.

2651
03:44:07,140 --> 03:44:07,660
James.

2652
03:44:09,920 --> 03:44:10,520
The Guinness.

2653
03:44:10,660 --> 03:44:11,100
Yes.

2654
03:44:11,480 --> 03:44:11,720
Parker.

2655
03:44:12,940 --> 03:44:13,460
Six years.

2656
03:44:14,080 --> 03:44:16,040
That motion carries the resolutions adopted.

2657
03:44:16,280 --> 03:44:17,420
We're at number 10 on the agenda.

2658
03:44:18,000 --> 03:44:19,160
This would approve a budget amendment.

2659
03:44:19,360 --> 03:44:23,720
It was before us a few weeks ago, posting authorizing the posting of notice.

2660
03:44:24,260 --> 03:44:29,900
The city has successfully secured $1 million in new grant funding from the state of Michigan.

2661
03:44:29,900 --> 03:44:33,460
through the Eagle Roundfield redevelopment program grant.

2662
03:44:33,980 --> 03:44:34,500
This is great.

2663
03:44:34,740 --> 03:44:36,140
Well, I won't steal a thunder because we actually have

2664
03:44:36,140 --> 03:44:37,160
this director here.

2665
03:44:37,920 --> 03:44:39,380
Mayor, anything before we head into the director?

2666
03:44:40,400 --> 03:44:41,500
No, please think it away.

2667
03:44:41,940 --> 03:44:42,440
Director, I'm going to go.

2668
03:44:42,680 --> 03:44:44,180
Good evening, Mayor, Deputy Mayor,

2669
03:44:44,520 --> 03:44:46,600
and Honourable Councils and City of Pontiac.

2670
03:44:46,820 --> 03:44:51,340
So this grant is to support the Lighthouse Project

2671
03:44:51,340 --> 03:44:59,040
at 4.54, the grant is for the cleanup of the dirt of the land.

2672
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:04,860
So, the city is the direct recipient of the screen, and we'll work with Lighthouse to execute these

2673
03:45:04,860 --> 03:45:05,220
funds.

2674
03:45:06,760 --> 03:45:12,240
So, we previously authorized the agreement. Thank you for your team's work coordinating with

2675
03:45:12,240 --> 03:45:16,480
Lighthouse. This just says, yes, we're going to update the budget to reflect that

2676
03:45:16,480 --> 03:45:21,360
money coming in and then in the future going out. Any further discussion on this proposed budget

2677
03:45:21,360 --> 03:45:25,680
amendment? This is again for this fiscal year, because you're expecting the funds before

2678
03:45:25,680 --> 03:45:27,420
for the conclusion of this fiscal year.

2679
03:45:28,920 --> 03:45:31,700
All right, I thought there was a move from Parker

2680
03:45:31,700 --> 03:45:33,640
in a second from Jones.

2681
03:45:34,340 --> 03:45:35,840
Is that right, Councilman Parker?

2682
03:45:36,340 --> 03:45:37,620
Councilman Jones, they concur.

2683
03:45:39,420 --> 03:45:41,180
Thank you for verifying that.

2684
03:45:41,860 --> 03:45:44,440
So, it's been moved and seconded, any further discussion.

2685
03:45:47,090 --> 03:45:48,890
Hearing on roll call, clerk Doyle and Donald

2686
03:45:48,890 --> 03:45:50,730
from the resolution of proving the budget amendment

2687
03:45:51,230 --> 03:45:53,770
for the $1 million and new grant funding.

2688
03:45:54,290 --> 03:45:55,010
Good, man.

2689
03:45:56,150 --> 03:45:56,410
Yes.

2690
03:45:56,410 --> 03:46:06,450
James? Yes. Jones? Yes. The Guinness? Yes. Parker? Yes. Carrington? Yes. Six

2691
03:46:06,450 --> 03:46:11,150
jays, no maids. That motion carries the resolutions that that did in the budget is amended.

2692
03:46:11,590 --> 03:46:16,110
We're at number 11. Is there a motion to adopt the resolution approving that budget amendment for

2693
03:46:16,110 --> 03:46:21,390
$100,000? So, it's been moved by Councilman Parker, second by Pro Tem, Carrington.

2694
03:46:21,390 --> 03:46:29,570
This is similarly a state eagle Brownfield redevelopment program grant any amount of $100,000, it was before us two weeks ago

2695
03:46:30,190 --> 03:46:33,770
Anything mayor before director Campbell director Campbell you have the floor.

2696
03:46:33,770 --> 03:46:40,690
I would just like to clarify that this is actually not for Brownfield redevelopment, this is for the community energy program

2697
03:46:40,690 --> 03:46:49,750
So we will use these funds to stack with our EECBG grant to provide lighting and the parks and some of the parks.

2698
03:46:49,750 --> 03:46:56,730
All right, thank you. Yes, so it's just simply misstated on the agenda. Let me make sure the resolution has got the goods.

2699
03:46:57,490 --> 03:47:00,610
We previously approved the agreement for this as well. Correct? Yes.

2700
03:47:00,870 --> 03:47:05,330
And this will deal with lighting in our parks that accurate. Yes.

2701
03:47:06,910 --> 03:47:08,490
Any further discussion on the motion?

2702
03:47:12,260 --> 03:47:16,200
Is this grant also anticipated for this fiscal year? No, not this one.

2703
03:47:16,880 --> 03:47:17,200
Okay. Okay.

2704
03:47:19,160 --> 03:47:22,760
So this is also a men in this current budget for it.

2705
03:47:22,760 --> 03:47:23,600
Okay.

2706
03:47:31,020 --> 03:47:31,740
Pardon my pauses.

2707
03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:33,680
I'll make sure the resolution's got the right language.

2708
03:47:34,220 --> 03:47:34,600
Oh, you've got it.

2709
03:47:34,780 --> 03:47:36,360
Thank you.

2710
03:47:37,180 --> 03:47:37,720
Energy management.

2711
03:47:43,530 --> 03:47:47,030
Can I please have a motion to amend the final therefore resolve some of?

2712
03:47:47,570 --> 03:47:52,750
So that way it says community energy management grant instead of brownfield redevelopment

2713
03:47:52,750 --> 03:47:53,830
program grant.

2714
03:47:54,110 --> 03:47:55,970
It was moved by council and goodman.

2715
03:47:56,090 --> 03:47:57,890
Seconded by Pro Temcaryton.

2716
03:47:58,270 --> 03:47:59,490
Proctoiled, did you get that?

2717
03:47:59,750 --> 03:48:02,970
It really just will map so that the first whereas in the final resolved.

2718
03:48:02,970 --> 03:48:08,390
the grant name reflects the same community energy management grant.

2719
03:48:08,590 --> 03:48:09,390
Good deal?

2720
03:48:10,490 --> 03:48:11,870
All right, everyone clear it's the amendment.

2721
03:48:12,290 --> 03:48:15,470
Just make sure the grant name aligns.

2722
03:48:15,550 --> 03:48:16,330
Here you know for the discussion,

2723
03:48:16,570 --> 03:48:18,070
roll call clerk, door on that.

2724
03:48:18,170 --> 03:48:19,150
Adoption of that amendment.

2725
03:48:20,970 --> 03:48:21,390
Jones?

2726
03:48:22,190 --> 03:48:22,330
Yes.

2727
03:48:23,410 --> 03:48:23,910
McGinnis?

2728
03:48:24,050 --> 03:48:24,370
Yes.

2729
03:48:24,730 --> 03:48:24,990
Parker?

2730
03:48:25,630 --> 03:48:25,910
Yes.

2731
03:48:26,310 --> 03:48:26,590
Carrington?

2732
03:48:27,370 --> 03:48:27,670
Yes.

2733
03:48:28,010 --> 03:48:28,370
Good min?

2734
03:48:28,710 --> 03:48:29,030
Yes.

2735
03:48:29,030 --> 03:48:29,690
James.

2736
03:48:30,430 --> 03:48:30,650
Yes.

2737
03:48:31,350 --> 03:48:31,730
Six years.

2738
03:48:32,010 --> 03:48:32,030
No.

2739
03:48:32,350 --> 03:48:32,770
Nice.

2740
03:48:33,010 --> 03:48:35,150
That motion carries the resolution is amended.

2741
03:48:36,730 --> 03:48:38,570
Any discussion on the resolution as amended?

2742
03:48:38,710 --> 03:48:39,650
We're back to the main motion.

2743
03:48:40,570 --> 03:48:44,210
Here in Unroll call clerk to all adoption of the resolution approving that budget amendment

2744
03:48:44,210 --> 03:48:48,530
in the amount of $100,000 for us to receive that new state grant funding.

2745
03:48:50,510 --> 03:48:50,770
Thank you.

2746
03:48:51,190 --> 03:48:51,210
Thank you.

2747
03:48:51,210 --> 03:48:52,590
Thank you.

2748
03:48:52,590 --> 03:48:52,890
Yes.

2749
03:48:53,630 --> 03:48:55,210
Yes, Jones.

2750
03:48:56,150 --> 03:48:56,250
Yes.

2751
03:48:56,670 --> 03:48:57,130
McGinnis.

2752
03:48:57,410 --> 03:48:57,550
Yes.

2753
03:48:58,470 --> 03:48:58,650
Yes.

2754
03:48:59,450 --> 03:48:59,650
Karen.

2755
03:48:59,990 --> 03:49:00,230
Yes.

2756
03:49:01,930 --> 03:49:02,950
Six years.

2757
03:49:03,510 --> 03:49:04,430
Thank you.

2758
03:49:04,510 --> 03:49:05,650
Motion carries.

2759
03:49:06,090 --> 03:49:07,570
The Resolutions adopted the budget is amended.

2760
03:49:07,830 --> 03:49:08,670
We're at number 12.

2761
03:49:09,170 --> 03:49:14,610
This is a resolution approving the contract for state of Michigan grant funded work for the

2762
03:49:14,610 --> 03:49:19,250
Meadow Drive Extension, the Clinton Retrial Extension, and the Center Point Parkway

2763
03:49:19,250 --> 03:49:27,110
payment repair. It would be awarding it with co-wallet T construction for $5,171,057,000,

2764
03:49:27,210 --> 03:49:31,550
$57 and $21,000. Is there a motion to support?

2765
03:49:31,870 --> 03:49:35,530
It's been moved by Councilman Jones, seconded by President Carrington, so now it's before us

2766
03:49:35,530 --> 03:49:38,390
for discussion, mayor and administration.

2767
03:49:41,480 --> 03:49:49,460
I want to introduce this topic by saying that this all relates to the acquisition by the

2768
03:49:49,460 --> 03:49:59,500
city for free of about 62 acres of land, previously owned by an entity called Crown Enterprises.

2769
03:50:00,560 --> 03:50:09,080
And they donated the 62 acres to the city in part because they wanted to build a concrete

2770
03:50:09,080 --> 03:50:16,200
plant in that vicinity, and they were given rezoning to facilitate that.

2771
03:50:16,200 --> 03:50:22,400
That's 62 acres is allowing us to help resolve our park's deficit.

2772
03:50:22,740 --> 03:50:26,580
So we talked about this two and a half years ago now.

2773
03:50:27,120 --> 03:50:31,780
As part of that, there's a desire to try to keep the heavy trucks

2774
03:50:31,780 --> 03:50:35,620
that go to that concrete plant off of city roads.

2775
03:50:36,460 --> 03:50:41,480
And so this is to build a access road from that concrete plant

2776
03:50:41,480 --> 03:50:44,780
directly out to Ubdike, which is a county road.

2777
03:50:44,780 --> 03:50:56,560
So as to keep those heavy trucks off of Meadow, drive off of Center Point Parkway and off of South Boulevard, all of which are city roads.

2778
03:50:57,000 --> 03:51:03,360
It's also designed to keep those concrete trucks away from the United whole-scale mortgage.

2779
03:51:04,740 --> 03:51:09,480
We were able to obtain a grant funding to pay for all of this.

2780
03:51:09,480 --> 03:51:30,180
So, this is at no charge to the city's general fund or our road funds and the grant that we receive has specific conditions associated with it about what it can be used for for roads and the clean river trail extension in that vicinity.

2781
03:51:30,180 --> 03:51:35,720
So, this is money that cannot be used to improve other roads in the city.

2782
03:51:35,900 --> 03:51:41,640
We heard concern about why are we using, why are we paying to improve these roads here and not fixing

2783
03:51:41,640 --> 03:51:42,800
paddock, for example.

2784
03:51:43,240 --> 03:51:48,640
Well, this is using money that's part of a state grant that is specific for this purpose.

2785
03:51:48,680 --> 03:51:55,360
It cannot be used to improve paddock or otherwise general streets in the city.

2786
03:51:55,360 --> 03:52:18,220
And so this is about trying to actually bring this to fruition to use the state grant dollars for the purpose that they're intended and for the purpose that they're restricted to in a way that make sure that we're keeping this heavy truck traffic from the concrete plant off of city roads so that they're not contributing to the deterioration of city roads while we also

2787
03:52:18,220 --> 03:52:23,960
extend and improve the Clinton River Trail with the state grant dollars and improve centerpoint

2788
03:52:23,960 --> 03:52:29,360
parkway with those state grant dollars. And with that I want to invite Alan Schneck who's been

2789
03:52:29,360 --> 03:52:33,860
the outside engineer who's been working on this to add any additional information.

2790
03:52:42,010 --> 03:52:48,310
Good evening, Council President, City Council, Mr. Mayor, Deputy Mayor. My name is Alan Schuck.

2791
03:52:48,730 --> 03:52:54,190
I work at no-ack in front of engineers and was part of the design team and putting this together.

2792
03:52:54,190 --> 03:52:57,270
and what the mayor stated is correct.

2793
03:52:58,610 --> 03:53:02,230
This is a Michigan Economic Development Corporation grant

2794
03:53:02,230 --> 03:53:05,950
in the amount of $7 and a half million dollars

2795
03:53:05,950 --> 03:53:08,530
for this scope of work.

2796
03:53:09,110 --> 03:53:16,430
The deadline to spend $7 is December 30th, 2025.

2797
03:53:20,500 --> 03:53:21,700
Well, that's coming quick.

2798
03:53:22,760 --> 03:53:30,540
So, just to break it down, this, the center point, Parkway pavement repair that will happen will be north of South Boulevard, correct?

2799
03:53:30,780 --> 03:53:35,900
That's correct. So, the deteriorating portions, especially as it comes north, there's chunks there.

2800
03:53:36,520 --> 03:53:39,560
Will it be a full-repeating or cutting out of the sections and repaving?

2801
03:53:39,740 --> 03:53:41,780
It'll be sectional pavement repairs.

2802
03:53:43,180 --> 03:53:50,620
But that's a public city road, so, although since it wasn't granted, we would have to be patching or paying for the...

2803
03:53:50,620 --> 03:53:52,640
if it's deemed as a priority.

2804
03:53:53,500 --> 03:53:56,840
But so the state funding will accomplish that.

2805
03:53:57,020 --> 03:53:59,900
Will accomplish this extension of Meadow Drive

2806
03:53:59,900 --> 03:54:02,460
to opt to act like the mayor already broke down.

2807
03:54:02,620 --> 03:54:04,540
Can you share for the council and community

2808
03:54:04,540 --> 03:54:08,280
what the Clinton River Trail extension will get us?

2809
03:54:08,280 --> 03:54:11,100
What it will be the repairs being improvements being made.

2810
03:54:11,460 --> 03:54:15,760
So essentially, the east side of updike

2811
03:54:15,760 --> 03:54:18,200
is where the city of Auburn Hills

2812
03:54:18,200 --> 03:54:21,160
of their Clinton River Trail extends easterly.

2813
03:54:21,740 --> 03:54:28,700
This will provide men, pedestrian users to connect to the trail in Pontiac and run it

2814
03:54:28,700 --> 03:54:36,880
up the existing rail corridor all the way up to where a future project along Pike Street

2815
03:54:36,880 --> 03:54:39,400
will connect the trail through the City of Pontiac.

2816
03:54:40,240 --> 03:54:45,640
So there will be trail improvements, there will be way finding some protective fence

2817
03:54:45,640 --> 03:54:55,980
the long, the overpass on Auburn Road, so really a great project for nine motorized trail users.

2818
03:54:57,000 --> 03:55:03,040
Okay. And no, I can browse, being a city of Pontiac located or at least partially located

2819
03:55:03,040 --> 03:55:09,700
community, our company, the next item on our agenda, it's related, but it's its own separate vote.

2820
03:55:10,120 --> 03:55:15,400
So you should, the council approve, you and your firm will be doing the construction and contract

2821
03:55:16,260 --> 03:55:20,360
Administrating, you'd be the Administrator to ensure that there would be compliance with

2822
03:55:20,360 --> 03:55:26,500
the city, state, any other requirements so that way this contractor should be approved

2823
03:55:26,500 --> 03:55:32,660
that the construction project is proceeding appropriately on time and within the funding constraints.

2824
03:55:33,560 --> 03:55:38,920
Absolutely. Okay. All right. Any other discussion on the resolution about this

2825
03:55:39,780 --> 03:55:44,440
grant funded? We already voted as a city council to receive the grant that we entered in the

2826
03:55:44,440 --> 03:55:50,840
grant agreement. We approve the funding coming in and now this is the completion part

2827
03:55:50,840 --> 03:55:55,500
and you're saying it's got to be done by the end of this calendar year. Should the council

2828
03:55:55,500 --> 03:56:00,340
give the green light tonight is there? Do you believe there's adequate window for the city

2829
03:56:00,340 --> 03:56:07,140
to fulfill that grant requirement? Yeah, yeah, I would say so. The only concern that I would

2830
03:56:07,140 --> 03:56:12,760
have is the restoration portion of it. Usually when the restoration is done in the fall,

2831
03:56:12,760 --> 03:56:18,200
It doesn't really germinate until the springtime, but that would be the only concern.

2832
03:56:18,660 --> 03:56:22,580
So the work could be done, but you're not able to do as direct quality control you're

2833
03:56:22,580 --> 03:56:25,300
saying because you got to wait for the growth of the restoration.

2834
03:56:25,840 --> 03:56:31,960
Right, usually when the seed and mulch in top soil are placed, it's usually dormant until the

2835
03:56:31,960 --> 03:56:34,020
springtime when it germinates.

2836
03:56:35,820 --> 03:56:36,700
Councilman James.

2837
03:56:37,320 --> 03:56:43,660
Yes, it's pretty much against, it says that the project was competitively bid through the

2838
03:56:43,660 --> 03:56:51,160
the money procurement process. Do you know, Colah was the little biter, but you know how

2839
03:56:51,160 --> 03:56:57,240
many bids came in for that? I don't recall this coming to us previously. So do you know

2840
03:56:57,240 --> 03:57:04,400
how many bids there were? Yeah, I believe there are three bids. Yeah, one was from a firm called

2841
03:57:04,400 --> 03:57:09,760
Mark Anthony, the other firm. I believe was Florence cement.

2842
03:57:13,120 --> 03:57:15,200
Okay. It is in our package way

2843
03:57:15,200 --> 03:57:17,160
back, but tabulation of bids.

2844
03:57:17,300 --> 03:57:18,740
I don't see it.

2845
03:57:18,900 --> 03:57:22,360
It's right after they've got the renderings to show proposed

2846
03:57:22,360 --> 03:57:23,900
quinder of a trail extension.

2847
03:57:24,860 --> 03:57:26,120
Centerpoint Parkway repairs.

2848
03:57:27,100 --> 03:57:29,000
I'm sorry there's no numbering.

2849
03:57:29,100 --> 03:57:30,560
But then it shows tabulation of the bids.

2850
03:57:30,660 --> 03:57:35,040
I see, but it just says that they were the low bidder.

2851
03:57:35,400 --> 03:57:36,340
I don't see another.

2852
03:57:36,380 --> 03:57:37,360
And they keep going.

2853
03:57:37,500 --> 03:57:38,840
So the first one is coality.

2854
03:57:39,160 --> 03:57:40,640
And then next up is second bidder.

2855
03:57:40,660 --> 03:57:44,300
Mark Anthony contracting ink out of millford, third bidder,

2856
03:57:44,300 --> 03:57:46,980
some company out of Shelby Township.

2857
03:57:51,680 --> 03:57:52,260
Mayor Rumble?

2858
03:57:53,680 --> 03:57:55,860
Yeah, just to follow up on that last question, Alan.

2859
03:57:56,080 --> 03:58:02,660
So all three of those bid, the all-through of those contractors bid to do general contracting work.

2860
03:58:03,700 --> 03:58:05,700
This is a total project.

2861
03:58:05,960 --> 03:58:10,440
It wasn't broken out by this is for meadow.

2862
03:58:11,460 --> 03:58:13,000
I guess I should say center point.

2863
03:58:13,080 --> 03:58:14,640
This is for the update connector.

2864
03:58:14,900 --> 03:58:16,360
This is for the Clean River Extension.

2865
03:58:16,360 --> 03:58:21,220
I mean, the Clinton River extension in particular seems very different to me than the

2866
03:58:21,220 --> 03:58:28,220
update connector and the centerpoint work, which is basic paving versus essentially a

2867
03:58:28,220 --> 03:58:28,820
park improvement.

2868
03:58:29,380 --> 03:58:35,540
So they were all bid as one thing, or were they bid out as separate pieces with different

2869
03:58:35,540 --> 03:58:36,980
people submitting beds.

2870
03:58:37,480 --> 03:58:45,580
One total bid for all three components, but we did break out phase one, phase two, phase three,

2871
03:58:45,580 --> 03:58:48,880
So there was a bid tabulation for centerpoint,

2872
03:58:49,120 --> 03:58:51,720
a bid tabulation for Clinton River Trail,

2873
03:58:52,040 --> 03:58:53,940
and a bid tabulation for Meadow.

2874
03:58:54,580 --> 03:58:59,240
But the contract award intent is for one contractor.

2875
03:59:00,680 --> 03:59:02,980
Okay, and you would anticipate one contractor

2876
03:59:03,700 --> 03:59:08,020
having the skill set to do all of those projects,

2877
03:59:08,080 --> 03:59:09,920
both the roadways on the one hand,

2878
03:59:10,520 --> 03:59:12,400
and the park project on the other.

2879
03:59:13,060 --> 03:59:15,060
No, there'll be one prime contractor.

2880
03:59:15,060 --> 03:59:18,900
and they'll probably be other subcontractors.

2881
03:59:19,360 --> 03:59:21,960
There could be a subcontractor for pavement markings,

2882
03:59:22,480 --> 03:59:26,480
subcontractor for traffic control devices.

2883
03:59:28,240 --> 03:59:33,540
There will be a subcontractor to fabricate and install signage.

2884
03:59:34,320 --> 03:59:38,960
So there will be multiple subcontractors, but one prime contractor.

2885
03:59:42,120 --> 03:59:45,140
Councilman James, did you have a follow-up?

2886
03:59:45,500 --> 03:59:46,560
I thought I saw your hand.

2887
03:59:46,700 --> 03:59:47,360
I don't want to be surprised.

2888
03:59:48,260 --> 03:59:50,560
Any further discussion on the motion before us?

2889
03:59:50,840 --> 03:59:51,520
Any further discussion?

2890
03:59:52,620 --> 03:59:58,340
So this is approving the contract for the state grant funded work.

2891
03:59:58,860 --> 03:59:59,980
The contractor is co-wallet.

2892
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:00,420
15 minutes, the singularotom of the theme.

2893
04:00:03,020 --> 04:00:06,960
Everyone's clear on the motion, roll call, court, threatens the resolution.

2894
04:00:08,120 --> 04:00:09,800
Again, yes.

2895
04:00:10,620 --> 04:00:10,860
Yes,

2896
04:00:13,040 --> 04:00:13,040
Wisconsin.

2897
04:00:14,200 --> 04:00:15,880
Construction principles.

2898
04:00:15,880 --> 04:00:26,000
j Medellison Flint corroded.

2899
04:00:26,060 --> 04:00:26,900
balmgeon.

2900
04:00:26,900 --> 04:00:32,860
Number 13, resolution approving no-awken trials contract for construction and contract administration

2901
04:00:32,860 --> 04:00:40,180
on this state funded, same project, that contract for the administration is $610,000.

2902
04:00:41,200 --> 04:00:42,960
Is there a motion to adopt that for the region?

2903
04:00:43,180 --> 04:00:44,240
Is there a second?

2904
04:00:44,800 --> 04:00:45,120
Second?

2905
04:00:45,420 --> 04:00:48,980
It's been moved by President Kerrington, seconded by Councilman James, as a matter of

2906
04:00:48,980 --> 04:00:49,760
not before us.

2907
04:00:50,040 --> 04:00:51,400
Administration, anything further?

2908
04:00:52,820 --> 04:00:55,020
Mr. Shankan, you want to break down what that would involve?

2909
04:00:55,020 --> 04:01:01,140
Well, there are different components to administering a construction contract.

2910
04:01:01,840 --> 04:01:03,660
We'd be doing construction staking.

2911
04:01:03,840 --> 04:01:06,320
We'd be preparing the inspector daily reports.

2912
04:01:06,520 --> 04:01:13,420
We'd be performing any testing on the materials that are being placed, preparing pay estimates.

2913
04:01:14,060 --> 04:01:22,920
If there was any kind of change orders, if there were things encountered that were unforeseen.

2914
04:01:22,920 --> 04:01:28,600
So, general administration and inspection services for this project.

2915
04:01:30,160 --> 04:01:31,900
Any discussion on the motion?

2916
04:01:34,240 --> 04:01:37,140
Hearing no discussion, roll call, clerk Doyle on adoption of the resolution?

2917
04:01:38,960 --> 04:01:39,300
Parker?

2918
04:01:41,260 --> 04:01:41,760
Canaryton?

2919
04:01:42,080 --> 04:01:42,200
Yes.

2920
04:01:42,560 --> 04:01:43,020
Goodman?

2921
04:01:43,600 --> 04:01:43,880
Yes.

2922
04:01:44,220 --> 04:01:44,520
James?

2923
04:01:45,060 --> 04:01:45,340
Yes.

2924
04:01:45,660 --> 04:01:45,840
James?

2925
04:01:46,300 --> 04:01:46,540
Yes.

2926
04:01:48,340 --> 04:01:50,100
Six jays and on a hays.

2927
04:01:50,360 --> 04:01:50,860
Thank you, council.

2928
04:01:51,180 --> 04:01:51,580
Thank you.

2929
04:01:51,620 --> 04:01:53,840
Thank you for being here for a few hours till we got to it.

2930
04:01:53,840 --> 04:01:55,340
All right, we're at number 14.

2931
04:01:55,960 --> 04:02:00,520
Resolution of proving contract with Hubble Roth and Clark for citywide road signal

2932
04:02:00,520 --> 04:02:06,780
monetization and sign-up grades, and Kenneth Road comprehensive improvements, 128,960,000,

2933
04:02:07,100 --> 04:02:09,980
and 80 cents, and it comes from the city's major road funds.

2934
04:02:10,680 --> 04:02:12,920
Councilman Goodman has moved as there a second.

2935
04:02:14,440 --> 04:02:21,000
All right, move by Councilman Goodman, of the Kenneth Road Goodman's seconded by

2936
04:02:27,220 --> 04:02:38,240
I want to turn this over to our Deputy Mayor to walk through the purpose of this and the and the specific nature of it.

2937
04:02:40,310 --> 04:02:40,650
Thank you, Mayor.

2938
04:02:41,450 --> 04:02:42,150
Good evening, Council.

2939
04:02:43,310 --> 04:02:51,830
As the Mayor said, the director is at the APWA conference and this item is actually a slightly urgent timing

2940
04:02:51,830 --> 04:02:58,310
timing, as you heard, Mr. Schneck talk about the timing for the grant that he was working

2941
04:02:58,310 --> 04:02:58,970
on.

2942
04:02:59,210 --> 04:03:06,190
This one also has timing requirements, and so that's why we kept it on to a nice agenda instead

2943
04:03:06,190 --> 04:03:09,950
of asking to move it to the June 3rd agenda.

2944
04:03:10,570 --> 04:03:20,070
Essentially, we have been granite funds through our highway maintenance program to be able

2945
04:03:20,070 --> 04:03:23,770
to do signal modernization at several different sites

2946
04:03:23,770 --> 04:03:24,670
throughout the city.

2947
04:03:25,650 --> 04:03:29,450
And for this, we're looking at federal funding

2948
04:03:29,450 --> 04:03:35,970
of $750,000 for the first set of projects.

2949
04:03:36,270 --> 04:03:40,390
And then again, $750,000 for the second set of projects.

2950
04:03:41,610 --> 04:03:45,610
The total amount that the city will be putting in

2951
04:03:45,610 --> 04:03:50,670
is slightly over $300,000 on the construction of the projects.

2952
04:03:51,330 --> 04:03:52,650
But this is not for the construction.

2953
04:03:52,770 --> 04:03:54,390
This is for the oversight.

2954
04:03:54,650 --> 04:03:57,990
So just as you heard, Mr. Schneck talk about the oversight

2955
04:03:57,990 --> 04:04:02,370
that his company will be doing for the Meadow Drive Project.

2956
04:04:02,410 --> 04:04:05,250
This is for Hubble Ruff and Clark to do the oversight

2957
04:04:05,250 --> 04:04:09,330
of these projects, which includes improvement modernization

2958
04:04:09,330 --> 04:04:12,870
of traffic signals at centerpoint parkway,

2959
04:04:12,870 --> 04:04:39,970
The installation of a new hawk pedestrian signal with a refuge island on the Watton Boulevard between Colony Lane and Greenwood Lane and signage of grades at multiple intersections along Edison Street and all of those upgrades are secure funding through the Highway Safety Improvement Program for fiscal year 2026 and then the next set of funding is for

2960
04:04:39,970 --> 04:04:46,650
improvements along Kinnit Road. And here we're talking about signal modernization at the

2961
04:04:46,650 --> 04:04:52,230
intersections of Kinnit Road with the elementary school. And Stanley Avenue removal of the

2962
04:04:52,230 --> 04:04:58,470
old pedestrian bridge. Installation of what reflective payment markings from the Eastern

2963
04:04:58,470 --> 04:05:05,060
City Limit of Baldwin Road and signage of grades at several intersections of Sarah Soda and

2964
04:05:05,060 --> 04:05:07,180
Sherry Law and Drive.

2965
04:05:10,690 --> 04:05:13,510
This question on the matter, I'll give the floor to Councilman Goodman who represents the

2966
04:05:13,510 --> 04:05:16,270
thorough care that's most directly going to be getting the goods.

2967
04:05:17,170 --> 04:05:20,730
Yes, I'm going to say I'm very happy that this is kind of coming full circle because I've

2968
04:05:20,730 --> 04:05:26,610
actually complained to Councilperson to Deputy Mayor about the pedestrian walk that's been

2969
04:05:26,610 --> 04:05:30,030
arrested out since I've gotten an office and he knows that I have.

2970
04:05:31,290 --> 04:05:36,030
I'm happy to finally see you see you, because I can I live on can it, I find that I live

2971
04:05:36,030 --> 04:05:42,630
So I'm kind of arguably, I'd say, just under a majority of my life now, and I see kids

2972
04:05:42,630 --> 04:05:47,590
like walk up and down, kind of to go to and from school, that they're going to and from

2973
04:05:47,590 --> 04:05:52,690
Alcat as like actual small children who are walking to like older siblings who are, you know,

2974
04:05:52,730 --> 04:05:54,590
getting off the bus and then walking that direction.

2975
04:05:55,070 --> 04:06:01,070
And I think it's crucial and very important that we have that intersection, B.S.A.

2976
04:06:01,070 --> 04:06:01,530
was possible.

2977
04:06:01,730 --> 04:06:02,450
There's a school there.

2978
04:06:02,830 --> 04:06:04,970
There's a bunch of apartments there with a bunch of kids who are walking.

2979
04:06:05,490 --> 04:06:09,470
and there is also a church in a daycare there, in that same vicinity.

2980
04:06:10,030 --> 04:06:15,710
So this is massively important, and the only thing that would be nicer than all these things

2981
04:06:15,710 --> 04:06:17,110
would be getting, can it be repaved?

2982
04:06:17,150 --> 04:06:22,510
Just since that will not happen at this moment, this is very exciting for me.

2983
04:06:22,670 --> 04:06:23,570
So thank you.

2984
04:06:24,290 --> 04:06:24,630
Good deal.

2985
04:06:24,790 --> 04:06:25,570
Any further discussion?

2986
04:06:25,890 --> 04:06:26,210
Good afternoon.

2987
04:06:26,550 --> 04:06:26,770
Yes.

2988
04:06:26,770 --> 04:06:27,990
Thank you, President Reganis.

2989
04:06:28,350 --> 04:06:32,550
I definitely welcome the new signage on the Edison Street in a six district, but I also

2990
04:06:32,550 --> 04:06:37,130
about a question concerning the pedestrian bridges over MLK.

2991
04:06:37,330 --> 04:06:41,550
I noticed something that the city spoke about a couple of years ago about getting removed.

2992
04:06:42,530 --> 04:06:45,030
So where are we at on that particular bridge getting removed?

2993
04:06:46,250 --> 04:06:50,990
Yeah, I think it's happened in this year but is there need new or additional council votes

2994
04:06:50,990 --> 04:06:55,630
or have we authorized adequately does the administration know or need to get back to us?

2995
04:06:55,790 --> 04:06:56,870
I need to get back to you.

2996
04:06:58,010 --> 04:07:01,490
But at least what was been shared previously, I can't remember the setting, but they shared

2997
04:07:01,490 --> 04:07:07,150
that comes out this year but so we need to find out if it's all in place or still to come.

2998
04:07:08,250 --> 04:07:11,390
No follow-up questions. Thank you for the discussion on the motion.

2999
04:07:12,530 --> 04:07:15,030
Here in Unroll Call Court, Doyle on adoption of that resolution,

3000
04:07:15,190 --> 04:07:19,170
approving the contract with Hubler Roth and Clark for citywide road signal

3001
04:07:19,170 --> 04:07:23,210
monetization and sign-up grades and tenant road comprehensive improvements.

3002
04:07:24,270 --> 04:07:25,030
Yes.

3003
04:07:26,530 --> 04:07:26,850
Yes.

3004
04:07:27,450 --> 04:07:27,670
Yes.

3005
04:07:29,890 --> 04:07:29,930
Yes.

3006
04:07:30,690 --> 04:07:30,950
Jones.

3007
04:07:32,390 --> 04:07:33,030
The Guinness.

3008
04:07:34,050 --> 04:07:34,230
Parker.

3009
04:07:35,490 --> 04:07:36,210
Sixieres.

3010
04:07:36,770 --> 04:07:39,250
Motion carries the resolutions adopted.

3011
04:07:39,430 --> 04:07:41,270
We're at number 15 on the agenda.

3012
04:07:41,810 --> 04:07:47,510
It's adoption of the City of Pontiac 2025-2026 General Appropriations Act Ordnance.

3013
04:07:47,830 --> 04:07:49,290
Is there a motion to approve?

3014
04:07:50,630 --> 04:07:54,670
It has been moved by the Secretary of the Council on the Jones.

3015
04:07:55,230 --> 04:07:56,870
It is now before us for consideration.

3016
04:07:58,070 --> 04:08:01,790
It had been read previously for a first time at the City Council.

3017
04:08:02,510 --> 04:08:09,110
The previous City Council meeting, we have held multiple budget sessions, review sessions,

3018
04:08:09,950 --> 04:08:13,590
and there was also a public hearing health earlier this afternoon.

3019
04:08:13,590 --> 04:08:20,030
So now we come to further consideration of that proposed annual budget.

3020
04:08:20,290 --> 04:08:23,790
This would run July 1st through June 30th.

3021
04:08:24,070 --> 04:08:30,650
Our current slash aka new city charter requires it to be done, improved, and in the

3022
04:08:30,650 --> 04:08:34,230
hopper by June 1st, which is rapidly approaching.

3023
04:08:34,970 --> 04:08:39,190
So I want to give the floor to Mayor and the administration feel free at any point to turn it over

3024
04:08:39,190 --> 04:08:44,450
finance director for broad overviews before we have more throughout deliberation from council.

3025
04:08:45,350 --> 04:08:46,130
Thank you.

3026
04:08:46,390 --> 04:08:51,410
So, as I've mentioned in the past and as council is aware, the past several years since

3027
04:08:51,410 --> 04:08:56,910
we've all taken office, the city has been running annual budget surpluses, meaning each

3028
04:08:56,910 --> 04:09:03,210
year the city has generated more revenue for the general fund than it has expanded in the

3029
04:09:03,210 --> 04:09:08,990
form of expenditures and so the general fund has had surpluses and the general fund

3030
04:09:08,990 --> 04:09:14,550
that has grown its fund balance each and every one of those years.

3031
04:09:15,510 --> 04:09:21,090
That's been in part because we've ended up with higher revenues than expected.

3032
04:09:21,450 --> 04:09:25,510
It's in part because we've had vacancies of certain positions throughout the year.

3033
04:09:26,170 --> 04:09:34,830
This budget that we've proposed has a proposed, from the outset, a proposed surplus.

3034
04:09:35,730 --> 04:09:43,510
Even if every single position is filled every single day of the year, it still projects a surplus.

3035
04:09:43,690 --> 04:09:44,630
This is a big deal.

3036
04:09:44,790 --> 04:09:52,930
It's been a long time since the city enacted a budget that at the outset had a projected surplus.

3037
04:09:53,470 --> 04:09:58,830
I want to make sure that we give an opportunity to both the Deputy Mayor and our finance team Raymond,

3038
04:09:58,830 --> 04:10:05,350
which is here to also speak to this, but this is just the latest demonstration of the very

3039
04:10:05,350 --> 04:10:10,910
healthy fiscal position that the city is in. And Deputy Mayor, why don't I turn it over to

3040
04:10:10,910 --> 04:10:16,170
you first, and then we can hear from Raymond. Thank you, Mayor. So just very, very briefly, I want

3041
04:10:16,170 --> 04:10:23,430
to thank all of the city departments for working diligently over the past three years to get us to

3042
04:10:23,430 --> 04:10:29,970
point where we could even contemplate this, and I want to thank the City Council for working

3043
04:10:29,970 --> 04:10:34,050
with the administration again over the course of the past few years to get us to a point

3044
04:10:34,050 --> 04:10:41,070
where we could even be talking realistically about saying, we think we can operate the

3045
04:10:41,070 --> 04:10:44,850
city on a daily basis without having to dip into fund balance.

3046
04:10:45,050 --> 04:10:48,350
And so with that, I will turn it over to the team at Raymond.

3047
04:11:03,010 --> 04:11:06,710
Good evening, council, mayor, administration.

3048
04:11:09,550 --> 04:11:17,370
Yes, we've had several meetings, have talked about all the different things that have been put into this budget.

3049
04:11:17,990 --> 04:11:29,350
As was stated by the mayor tonight, we are proposing a budget with a small surplus, which I know that was the goal this year and has been the goal.

3050
04:11:29,350 --> 04:11:34,150
So happy to stay back and happy to answer any questions.

3051
04:11:34,270 --> 04:11:36,790
I didn't really have anything further to add other than what was

3052
04:11:36,790 --> 04:11:37,590
already shared tonight.

3053
04:11:40,150 --> 04:11:40,490
So, okay.

3054
04:11:40,870 --> 04:11:42,350
So, what did you change?

3055
04:11:44,870 --> 04:11:47,770
Why do I have a new document that was just handed to me?

3056
04:11:48,030 --> 04:11:48,790
What has changed?

3057
04:11:53,410 --> 04:11:54,770
I don't have a red line copy.

3058
04:11:55,090 --> 04:11:55,910
What has changed?

3059
04:12:02,170 --> 04:12:03,190
I think there was.

3060
04:12:03,190 --> 04:12:07,890
Daniel, so these are all of the minor changes

3061
04:12:07,890 --> 04:12:14,170
that we have been collecting through the budget hearings, do you have a list of them?

3062
04:12:16,260 --> 04:12:16,900
I can,

3063
04:12:20,480 --> 04:12:21,460
if you give me one moment.

3064
04:12:26,270 --> 04:12:32,030
And the supplemental fiscal year of 2526 employer employee pay and benefit details

3065
04:12:32,030 --> 04:12:36,290
is this informational or binding an obligatory?

3066
04:12:37,070 --> 04:12:40,380
Yeah, how far I would you just give me this information?

3067
04:12:52,020 --> 04:12:54,760
Excuse me, Comrade President, why are you referring to?

3068
04:12:54,960 --> 04:12:58,920
Well, I think he's asking who distributed this latest document

3069
04:12:58,920 --> 04:13:01,720
and why was it just distributed? And that's a good question.

3070
04:13:02,200 --> 04:13:06,180
The clerk distributed, but there was a question about a different specific.

3071
04:13:07,760 --> 04:13:14,700
There was a secondary packet called Fiscal Year 2526 employee pay and benefit details.

3072
04:13:15,000 --> 04:13:17,800
It was received at the last council meeting as well.

3073
04:13:17,960 --> 04:13:20,520
It's just been provided again. My question is,

3074
04:13:20,560 --> 04:13:22,020
are you talking about the position control?

3075
04:13:23,580 --> 04:13:25,760
I am telling you what it is titled.

3076
04:13:25,760 --> 04:13:34,100
fiscal year 2526 employee pay in benefit details on department job tile is it binding in a

3077
04:13:34,100 --> 04:13:40,800
obligatory or is it merely an informational adentum is descriptive is that your assessment

3078
04:13:40,800 --> 04:13:41,200
as well.

3079
04:13:41,380 --> 04:13:42,080
Yes, yes.

3080
04:13:43,200 --> 04:13:48,100
So we are not voting on the employee pay in benefit details, are we?

3081
04:13:50,280 --> 04:13:54,480
Well, you are voting on the pay that was included in the budget, which you did as

3082
04:13:54,480 --> 04:13:57,520
to see where this is a expanding of what's as correct.

3083
04:13:58,120 --> 04:13:58,440
Yes.

3084
04:13:59,020 --> 04:14:06,780
So the change that was made on there, the clerk had noted that we had applied 3% to council and the mayor.

3085
04:14:07,340 --> 04:14:11,440
And that cannot be decided except through the separate commission.

3086
04:14:11,740 --> 04:14:13,420
So we removed that 3% change.

3087
04:14:14,000 --> 04:14:17,480
So that's the only change that you will see that that was taken out.

3088
04:14:17,480 --> 04:14:24,280
We'll have such a restrictive document be included in the ordinance as filed and adopted.

3089
04:14:25,420 --> 04:14:27,240
It can be on the submit, yes.

3090
04:14:27,940 --> 04:14:29,640
I'm not advocating for against.

3091
04:14:29,840 --> 04:14:34,620
I want to know definitely what the administration's plan is because I need to help

3092
04:14:34,620 --> 04:14:37,860
support the council's ability to know exactly what they're voting for.

3093
04:14:38,120 --> 04:14:41,360
So normally, that would not be part of the ordinance.

3094
04:14:41,360 --> 04:14:44,040
That is a descriptive document, a supporting piece.

3095
04:14:44,040 --> 04:14:55,380
I welcome the additional detail I just need to make it specifically clear that what you see that additional breakdown staff member by staff member that helps us understand which departments

3096
04:14:56,040 --> 04:14:59,780
what's all included in what's being approved, but we are not adopting

3097
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:07,020
This descriptive detail breakdown. That's right. That is not what's being voted on by city council this evening.

3098
04:15:08,960 --> 04:15:17,560
Additionally, council president, I know one of the larger changes is the anticipated change for the courts.

3099
04:15:17,840 --> 04:15:25,260
As you've heard us talk about, they are at a precipice for their union contract,

3100
04:15:25,380 --> 04:15:29,240
and so we have anticipated that other than that, I'm not sure.

3101
04:15:29,240 --> 04:15:35,960
The other one was the share of contract that you had emailed about the additional

3102
04:15:35,960 --> 04:15:43,040
of props, or I'm sorry, the fire to fire contract, that had come in since the last meeting

3103
04:15:43,040 --> 04:15:48,980
we had and based on the numbers that we were provided, we estimate about 150,000 more

3104
04:15:48,980 --> 04:15:53,180
in the fire contract than what was originally presented to you.

3105
04:15:58,640 --> 04:16:00,040
All right.

3106
04:16:00,040 --> 04:16:04,220
City Council has provided feedback, changes have been incorporated, what you see before

3107
04:16:04,220 --> 04:16:06,360
you is that incorporated changes.

3108
04:16:06,960 --> 04:16:12,420
What we need long-term are long-term strategies for late neighborhood and local roads.

3109
04:16:13,000 --> 04:16:18,020
What this budget does include is a greater investment in preventative maintenance in sealing

3110
04:16:18,020 --> 04:16:24,740
of the roads of cutting-out sections of making new pavement where there's too much deterioration

3111
04:16:24,740 --> 04:16:31,600
were patching. No longer works, but as residents rightfully identified, there is not in this budget

3112
04:16:31,600 --> 04:16:38,920
substantial funds that would see a lot of new engineering or construction of neighborhood

3113
04:16:38,920 --> 04:16:46,060
or local roads beyond what's already been budgeted and grant funded and state federal funds.

3114
04:16:46,720 --> 04:16:52,120
So that is a glaring need that we will have to look to beyond just this immediate question.

3115
04:16:52,120 --> 04:17:00,000
We have before us as the Council decision on a public work facility, whether we pursue that

3116
04:17:00,000 --> 04:17:04,160
or not, that is not incorporated in this budget because that's still a pending decision.

3117
04:17:04,480 --> 04:17:10,180
That would have to be an amendment to be made in the future budget if the community and

3118
04:17:10,180 --> 04:17:12,500
this council takes that action.

3119
04:17:12,840 --> 04:17:19,120
Similarly, investments in the youth recreation center from the general fund would have to be

3120
04:17:19,120 --> 04:17:22,880
correct me if I'm wrong in the administration, that would be a separate standalone decision

3121
04:17:22,880 --> 04:17:26,320
in coming months when that number is finalized.

3122
04:17:27,220 --> 04:17:28,780
But Councilman James, you had a hand?

3123
04:17:29,480 --> 04:17:39,020
I would wouldn't that be the purchase of some kind of a DPW facility, since we know that

3124
04:17:39,020 --> 04:17:44,780
that has to happen within this budget year, wouldn't that be a part of the capital improvement,

3125
04:17:44,780 --> 04:17:51,840
the projections there to say that of setting aside a certain amount within capital improvement

3126
04:17:51,840 --> 04:17:58,120
for that because even though we haven't made any decision about it we do know it is a

3127
04:17:58,120 --> 04:18:05,120
decision that has to be made in this fiscal year. So why wouldn't we some kind of way figure

3128
04:18:05,120 --> 04:18:11,840
out a way to incorporate that into this fiscal year's budget? Just a projection of it.

3129
04:18:11,840 --> 04:18:18,560
The current budget does not include a comprehensive capital improvement plan, where they're forecasting out.

3130
04:18:18,780 --> 04:18:24,120
All it includes is the capital improvement projects they know of this year for the fiscal year.

3131
04:18:24,460 --> 04:18:28,240
So that is something that's a still a deficiency in the current city operations

3132
04:18:28,240 --> 04:18:32,800
that in the coming months we're going to keep force in the matter,

3133
04:18:33,320 --> 04:18:39,260
because it's overdue. We expect it. It's a standard that needs to happen.

3134
04:18:39,260 --> 04:18:55,220
And you're absolutely right, that would be front and center, and the question is, where is it fall on the timeline and the priority status, and that needs to be true for all property, you know, property or capital improvements, we gotta have a comprehensive.

3135
04:18:56,200 --> 04:19:09,240
And so that was discussed a lot last week, not with finality, we do have facilities and property subcommittee meeting this Friday, where we hope to get a lot more candid direct answers on.

3136
04:19:09,240 --> 04:19:11,480
when it will come before the city council.

3137
04:19:12,200 --> 04:19:13,540
But at least with this current budget,

3138
04:19:13,800 --> 04:19:15,980
all we've got are the capital improvement projects

3139
04:19:15,980 --> 04:19:19,960
for this fiscal year that they know of that are baked

3140
04:19:19,960 --> 04:19:22,220
in already that they outlined last week.

3141
04:19:22,440 --> 04:19:26,580
It does not include the price tag of public works facility.

3142
04:19:27,340 --> 04:19:30,040
Well, I guess my next question would then be

3143
04:19:30,040 --> 04:19:34,980
to administration, what is the plan if you're not going to,

3144
04:19:34,980 --> 04:19:38,920
if it's not going to be a part of the 2025, 26

3145
04:19:38,920 --> 04:19:48,880
budget that we need to approve tonight. What is your plan for how this DPW facility,

3146
04:19:48,880 --> 04:19:55,060
however, that unfolds, how that's going to, what's the plan? Because this is what we're

3147
04:19:55,060 --> 04:20:02,860
trying to do with a fiscal budget is to incorporate all of the elements that are going to

3148
04:20:02,860 --> 04:20:07,420
be coming up within the next year. So what is the plan for how that's going to be handled

3149
04:20:10,200 --> 04:20:18,860
If it's not in this budget, how does administration plan to handle the purchase of a DPW facility?

3150
04:20:19,580 --> 04:20:20,460
Thank you, Councilwoman.

3151
04:20:21,540 --> 04:20:21,560
So,

3152
04:20:24,110 --> 04:20:30,190
it is on to Knightsagenda, which we have already determined will not be acted on tonight,

3153
04:20:30,230 --> 04:20:39,870
but it is on tonight's agenda to put forth the proposal to purchase a DPW facility at $12 million.

3154
04:20:41,430 --> 04:20:47,970
with out knowing if that is actually going to be the direction that we go in or not.

3155
04:20:48,290 --> 04:20:52,290
We did not include that particular capital investment.

3156
04:20:52,430 --> 04:20:58,150
If we decide to go in that direction, we would bring back an amendment for that.

3157
04:20:58,150 --> 04:21:04,830
If we don't decide to go in that direction, then that leaves us with a very interesting

3158
04:21:04,830 --> 04:21:26,410
because the temporary facility that we have the ability to go to would not last us very long and then we would have to really be looking at the cost of building a new facility from the ground up, which is estimated to be about $38 million.

3159
04:21:26,410 --> 04:21:36,390
So, because we have that wide swing from $12 million to $38 million, we did not include

3160
04:21:36,390 --> 04:21:39,230
a dollar figure until we know what direction we're moving in.

3161
04:21:41,460 --> 04:21:42,280
Mayor Grimwell.

3162
04:21:42,940 --> 04:21:49,300
Yeah, I think to try to answer the question as plainly as possible, Councilwoman, ideally we

3163
04:21:49,300 --> 04:21:54,080
would have a specific plan approved by City Council before adopting the budget.

3164
04:21:54,540 --> 04:21:58,380
We don't want to be presumptuous about what City Council is going to do in terms of

3165
04:21:58,380 --> 04:22:04,660
direction for a DPW facility. And we need to pass the budget as you know before the end of June.

3166
04:22:05,760 --> 04:22:10,840
So, excuse me, before the end of May, before June 1st. And so, we want to get the budget passed

3167
04:22:10,840 --> 04:22:19,300
to the extent that a decision by City Council regarding a DPW facility deviates from that budget.

3168
04:22:19,300 --> 04:22:22,340
We'll have to amend the budget as the short answer and we can do that.

3169
04:22:24,460 --> 04:22:25,140
For the discussion?

3170
04:22:26,660 --> 04:22:31,800
Taking a step back, people of Pontiac, this is not an exciting budget.

3171
04:22:32,260 --> 04:22:38,020
It does not include a lot of really dramatic, amazing, miraculous changes.

3172
04:22:38,760 --> 04:22:43,820
It is, for lack of better words, a very conservative, straightforward budget.

3173
04:22:44,340 --> 04:22:45,660
And that's in part by design.

3174
04:22:45,740 --> 04:22:49,620
The administration outlined that, that's what they were at their request was by design.

3175
04:22:49,960 --> 04:22:55,000
And the city council is receptive to that because a transition of leadership is inevitable.

3176
04:22:55,000 --> 04:23:06,980
We are at the conclusion the last six plus months of these current city council members in this current mayor that people of Pontiac will determine who their next leader is for four years to come.

3177
04:23:07,340 --> 04:23:17,380
Meaning, no matter what is adopted tonight and what is amended in the six months to come, there will be a new roster of leaders, though maybe some carry over might be a lot of carry over.

3178
04:23:17,380 --> 04:23:22,900
That's the voters to decide, but that there will have to be a reassessment of financial and

3179
04:23:22,900 --> 04:23:27,760
budget priorities at the beginning of the next calendar year, January and going forward.

3180
04:23:28,560 --> 04:23:34,120
And then the new budget has to be gotten ready, like Pronto, so that way it's presented

3181
04:23:34,120 --> 04:23:38,860
by the charter mandate of April 15th, so that means the new mayor in Council has to come

3182
04:23:38,860 --> 04:23:45,480
up with a new request for the July through June to come in a matter of weeks, really.

3183
04:23:45,480 --> 04:23:51,700
And so we recognize that there will be some changes we have to make in the next six months to come.

3184
04:23:51,880 --> 04:23:57,620
If there's any final financial impacts that are carrying out that have been debated at length,

3185
04:23:58,020 --> 04:23:59,560
but aren't ready to be decided now.

3186
04:24:00,100 --> 04:24:04,860
We are required by the charter to have a budget in place by June 1st,

3187
04:24:05,100 --> 04:24:07,800
which gives a full month before the new fiscal year starts.

3188
04:24:07,800 --> 04:24:14,100
So, should this be adopted tonight, it satisfies that requirement, but it does not close the

3189
04:24:14,100 --> 04:24:19,680
door on the community through the council amending the budget for the next 12 months

3190
04:24:19,680 --> 04:24:20,200
to come.

3191
04:24:20,960 --> 04:24:24,660
Six, the next six months will be with the current cast of characters, and then will be

3192
04:24:24,660 --> 04:24:27,920
a new cast of characters starting July and moving forward.

3193
04:24:28,360 --> 04:24:32,180
And there might have to be some swift consideration of budget amendments should the future

3194
04:24:32,180 --> 04:24:38,580
Council receive requests from the future mayor that has any other budgetary priorities.

3195
04:24:40,600 --> 04:24:48,600
So, as much as we do want more proactive positive progress, this does include progress,

3196
04:24:48,920 --> 04:24:51,600
but it doesn't have dramatic departures.

3197
04:24:51,840 --> 04:24:53,820
It doesn't involve massive reorganization.

3198
04:24:54,300 --> 04:24:56,520
It does not involve massive hiring or firing.

3199
04:24:56,820 --> 04:25:00,800
It does not involve the massive ending or beginning of initiatives.

3200
04:25:00,800 --> 04:25:08,720
It's really sort of the final, I won't call it, I won't even use the C word, I was about to say coasting, that's not right.

3201
04:25:09,040 --> 04:25:30,660
But it's just like that final conclusion of this current leadership and the executive and legislative side, and it gives greater ability for the future leadership team to make any decisions that reflect the new, the next chapter, if you will.

3202
04:25:31,900 --> 04:25:33,740
So I capture that right, Council.

3203
04:25:33,860 --> 04:25:35,820
Do you think I summarize that right?

3204
04:25:36,620 --> 04:25:38,020
Protem and then Councilman Parker?

3205
04:25:40,780 --> 04:25:41,160
Yes.

3206
04:25:41,400 --> 04:25:42,040
Thank you, President.

3207
04:25:42,300 --> 04:25:46,960
I think definitely you, you summed it up very well of what we're expecting.

3208
04:25:47,420 --> 04:25:53,740
And I'd just like to commend the administration and make sure that we keep this budget

3209
04:25:55,790 --> 04:25:59,390
to the point and not to inflate it.

3210
04:25:59,390 --> 04:26:07,550
But, I do have one question about one line under department, two to eight information technology,

3211
04:26:08,670 --> 04:26:15,170
where it says, for professional service, BSNA, the request from the department was $80,000,

3212
04:26:15,390 --> 04:26:21,050
and that went up to $235,085,085, could you just give me a rationale for that increase?

3213
04:26:22,690 --> 04:26:34,430
Yes, sir. That is a change in the actual fundamental BSNA service. So currently we are on

3214
04:26:34,430 --> 04:26:39,190
their O-service and that is switching us to their web-based service.

3215
04:26:39,490 --> 04:26:41,130
All right. Thank you.

3216
04:26:41,630 --> 04:26:46,010
And currently is BSNA used charge to multiple different departments or different funds.

3217
04:26:46,010 --> 04:26:51,450
and this is going to localize it all in IT, or was IT will be IT going forward?

3218
04:26:53,530 --> 04:27:00,090
I cannot remember if last year we had finished the consolidation, but that is what

3219
04:27:00,090 --> 04:27:00,570
is happening.

3220
04:27:01,530 --> 04:27:04,150
Historically there was a little more fragmented charging.

3221
04:27:06,960 --> 04:27:07,740
Further discussion?

3222
04:27:09,540 --> 04:27:12,400
So you heard from the, I'm sorry, yes, Councilman Parker, you were next on the speakers list.

3223
04:27:12,400 --> 04:27:15,880
I just want to make sure that if we approve this budget tonight, we still have up to

3224
04:27:15,880 --> 04:27:17,200
to amend it.

3225
04:27:17,340 --> 04:27:17,860
Yes.

3226
04:27:18,160 --> 04:27:18,260
Yes.

3227
04:27:18,260 --> 04:27:23,740
Yet the charter just requires we post, we're required to post notice of amendments so that

3228
04:27:23,740 --> 04:27:25,500
same procedure will ring true.

3229
04:27:25,860 --> 04:27:31,320
We can and may still amend just like we did tonight for those two different grant money.

3230
04:27:31,520 --> 04:27:35,940
If something's going to change, we want to balance out the end of this current year, so we might

3231
04:27:35,940 --> 04:27:39,480
do a few more amendments just to make sure it aligns and meet state law.

3232
04:27:40,020 --> 04:27:43,940
And then starting July 1st with the new fiscal year, all throughout the year, the budget

3233
04:27:43,940 --> 04:27:50,680
can be amended to reflect higher revenues, lower or higher expenses, or other different initiatives

3234
04:27:50,680 --> 04:27:56,660
so that way more time can allow for it, more research review and community input.

3235
04:27:57,520 --> 04:27:58,700
Mayor Grimley, you had a hint?

3236
04:27:59,300 --> 04:28:07,540
Yeah, just to amplify what President McGinnis said, the goal of this budget is to provide

3237
04:28:07,540 --> 04:28:14,140
for the implementation of initiatives that have already been announced and launched.

3238
04:28:14,240 --> 04:28:22,820
It's not designed to facilitate new initiatives beyond many of those that are already in

3239
04:28:22,820 --> 04:28:26,780
process, and we want to make sure get off the ground and get across the finish line.

3240
04:28:27,400 --> 04:28:33,880
But more importantly, perhaps, I did just want to correct some misinformation from a previous

3241
04:28:33,880 --> 04:28:35,800
elected official who spoke on this.

3242
04:28:36,500 --> 04:28:40,820
She questioned whether there was funding for road projects in the budget.

3243
04:28:41,000 --> 04:28:46,300
And I just want to be clear that in terms of road repairs, in terms of all things roads,

3244
04:28:46,840 --> 04:28:51,520
those will not be found in the general budget, general fund budget, which is, of course, part of this budget.

3245
04:28:51,680 --> 04:28:57,680
It will be found in the major streets and local streets, the major roads and local roads, budgets.

3246
04:28:57,980 --> 04:28:59,180
They're also part of this budget.

3247
04:28:59,180 --> 04:29:07,700
But the funding is part of those funds to make sure that we can properly maintain the roads

3248
04:29:07,700 --> 04:29:08,940
and streets in the city.

3249
04:29:09,300 --> 04:29:13,380
And so I'm not sure what the previous mayor was referring to, but I do just want to reassure

3250
04:29:13,380 --> 04:29:19,020
the community that the major road funds, the local street fund, are part of this budget.

3251
04:29:19,540 --> 04:29:20,920
They do provide funding for us.

3252
04:29:23,730 --> 04:29:29,590
For the discussion on the proposed fiscal year, budget appropriations and ordinance.

3253
04:29:30,250 --> 04:29:32,750
It has been read multiple times.

3254
04:29:33,550 --> 04:29:37,970
Should Council want to have further amendments or changes or research and review.

3255
04:29:38,470 --> 04:29:41,410
We just need to pursue that special meeting.

3256
04:29:41,610 --> 04:29:46,130
We have scheduled for May 27th as that final opportunity.

3257
04:29:46,390 --> 04:29:49,470
We need to make sure that we do adopt it before June 1st.

3258
04:29:49,870 --> 04:29:54,030
So after this meeting, there is a regular meeting that occurs before that deadline.

3259
04:29:54,030 --> 04:29:59,510
So we have to do some scheduling to fulfill that charter mandated response

3260
04:29:59,510 --> 04:29:59,850
stability.

3261
04:30:00,590 --> 04:30:06,870
Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Any further discussion?

3262
04:30:08,310 --> 04:30:14,910
Hearing none, roll call, clerk Doyle on adoption of the City of Pontiac 20, fiscal year 2526,

3263
04:30:15,370 --> 04:30:21,470
general appropriations act ordinance. Jones? Yes.

3264
04:30:22,650 --> 04:30:23,310
Yes.

3265
04:30:24,070 --> 04:30:24,250
Yes.

3266
04:30:24,250 --> 04:30:24,310
Yes.

3267
04:30:26,130 --> 04:30:26,370
Yes.

3268
04:30:26,870 --> 04:30:27,170
Carrington?

3269
04:30:27,690 --> 04:30:27,850
Yes.

3270
04:30:28,430 --> 04:30:29,090
Goodman?

3271
04:30:29,630 --> 04:30:29,790
Yes.

3272
04:30:30,430 --> 04:30:30,790
James.

3273
04:30:31,910 --> 04:30:32,170
Yes.

3274
04:30:32,830 --> 04:30:33,450
Six jays.

3275
04:30:33,650 --> 04:30:33,970
No names.

3276
04:30:34,530 --> 04:30:36,370
Motion carries the ordinances adopted.

3277
04:30:36,610 --> 04:30:38,050
Number 16 on the agenda.

3278
04:30:38,630 --> 04:30:42,710
Resolution approving city of Paniac annual fee schedule for the upcoming fiscal year.

3279
04:30:43,070 --> 04:30:44,150
Is there a motion to approve?

3280
04:30:45,530 --> 04:30:45,990
Is there a second?

3281
04:30:45,990 --> 04:30:46,290
Support.

3282
04:30:47,010 --> 04:30:49,170
It's been moved and seconded.

3283
04:30:49,170 --> 04:30:58,870
It was previously reviewed, previously discussed, mostly it is maintaining the same fees that

3284
04:30:58,870 --> 04:31:05,310
are to your existence at the same rates, but it's a standalone document, so that way that it can

3285
04:31:05,310 --> 04:31:11,090
be amended without having to try and do a whole budget ordinance change.

3286
04:31:12,350 --> 04:31:16,370
Clerk Doyle, Deputy Mayor, I am not immediately showing the resolution in front of me.

3287
04:31:16,370 --> 04:31:17,870
do you have it at your disposal?

3288
04:31:21,180 --> 04:31:25,340
Okay, here we go. Resolution to adopt the 2025-26 fee

3289
04:31:25,340 --> 04:31:30,060
schedule, whereas the city of Paniac must pass a yearly fee schedule, and whereas the

3290
04:31:30,060 --> 04:31:34,440
city of Paniac is actually and has reviewed the former fee schedule, and whereas the city

3291
04:31:34,440 --> 04:31:38,100
of Paniac is actually and has made suggested changes to the schedule based on the cost provided

3292
04:31:38,100 --> 04:31:42,280
services and services to be provided, and whereas the city of Paniac City Council has reviewed

3293
04:31:42,280 --> 04:31:46,940
those changes, and whereas the city of Paniac City Council has made additional changes, and

3294
04:31:46,940 --> 04:31:48,240
as the proposed fees schedules

3295
04:31:48,240 --> 04:31:50,420
complying with the requirements of state law.

3296
04:31:50,800 --> 04:31:51,580
Now, therefore, it'd be resolved

3297
04:31:51,580 --> 04:31:52,880
that the Pontiac City Council here

3298
04:31:52,880 --> 04:31:55,080
by adopts the attached proposed

3299
04:31:55,080 --> 04:31:56,280
fees scheduled to be in effect

3300
04:31:56,280 --> 04:31:59,860
for the 2526 this year from July 1, 2025

3301
04:31:59,860 --> 04:32:01,580
through June 30th, 2026.

3302
04:32:02,600 --> 04:32:06,580
It's a type of graphical, but in the final resolved,

3303
04:32:06,820 --> 04:32:10,500
the word hereby needs to be H-E-R-E-B-Y.

3304
04:32:11,060 --> 04:32:13,100
Clerk, are we okay with having that just

3305
04:32:13,100 --> 04:32:14,720
grammatically being corrected,

3306
04:32:14,860 --> 04:32:15,820
or does it need a motion?

3307
04:32:15,820 --> 04:32:16,720
Okay.

3308
04:32:21,300 --> 04:32:28,700
The clerk seems cool with correct in it. All right, so it the spelling error has been corrected

3309
04:32:28,700 --> 04:32:35,800
with what's before us. It was moved in second, correct clerk? All right, so now it's before us

3310
04:32:35,800 --> 04:32:37,020
for discussion, any discussion?

3311
04:32:40,170 --> 04:32:45,290
Hearing no discussion, roll call, and just like the budget, it could be changed mid year.

3312
04:32:45,370 --> 04:32:51,930
So if we find that there's something that we want to modify or additional changes, roll call and adoption

3313
04:32:51,930 --> 04:32:53,830
of that resolution, Court Doyle.

3314
04:32:54,010 --> 04:32:54,550
The Guinness.

3315
04:32:55,510 --> 04:32:55,850
Parker.

3316
04:32:57,590 --> 04:32:57,690
Carrington.

3317
04:32:58,910 --> 04:32:59,150
Yes.

3318
04:32:59,570 --> 04:33:00,130
Goodman.

3319
04:33:00,770 --> 04:33:01,070
Yes.

3320
04:33:01,330 --> 04:33:01,730
James.

3321
04:33:03,490 --> 04:33:03,730
Yes.

3322
04:33:04,110 --> 04:33:04,370
Jones.

3323
04:33:04,990 --> 04:33:05,010
Yes.

3324
04:33:05,490 --> 04:33:06,050
Six Jays.

3325
04:33:06,390 --> 04:33:10,340
And motion carries the resolutions adapted.

3326
04:33:10,900 --> 04:33:11,800
We're at number 17.

3327
04:33:12,000 --> 04:33:13,960
This was before City Council previously.

3328
04:33:14,220 --> 04:33:15,980
And we postponed it from a previous meeting.

3329
04:33:16,560 --> 04:33:19,380
Resolution approving to purchase agreement for 300 West Shear-On

3330
04:33:19,380 --> 04:33:21,560
Street property for public works operations.

3331
04:33:21,560 --> 04:33:23,960
and authorizing the Mayor to execute the agreement,

3332
04:33:24,260 --> 04:33:26,540
initiating the due diligence periods for structural

3333
04:33:26,540 --> 04:33:27,780
and site assessment.

3334
04:33:28,620 --> 04:33:31,800
This is the former Pontiac Central High School,

3335
04:33:31,860 --> 04:33:36,620
now privately owned and substantially upgraded and modified.

3336
04:33:38,160 --> 04:33:40,120
Deputy Mayor, I'm seeing what's on the screen.

3337
04:33:40,300 --> 04:33:42,220
Was there some overviews that you were trying to make

3338
04:33:42,220 --> 04:33:45,780
before we likely postpone until the June 3rd meeting?

3339
04:33:45,800 --> 04:33:48,740
I am happy to wait until June 3rd.

3340
04:33:49,340 --> 04:33:53,640
So, again, we want to postpone this to June 3rd, so that with a community can

3341
04:33:53,640 --> 04:33:57,840
deliberate and discuss more, we will be having a thorough presentation to the community

3342
04:33:57,840 --> 04:34:02,920
at that council meeting and a public hearing to follow so people can raise more questions

3343
04:34:02,920 --> 04:34:04,380
asked offer feedback.

3344
04:34:04,900 --> 04:34:07,020
Our council members, comfortable with that approach.

3345
04:34:08,600 --> 04:34:10,520
I have moved to postpone to June.

3346
04:34:12,120 --> 04:34:18,160
So, the program, Carrington has moved and Councilman Jones is seconded that this item be postponed

3347
04:34:18,160 --> 04:34:23,160
once more to the June 3rd, or at least that first June meeting, I hope I'm not getting

3348
04:34:23,160 --> 04:34:23,640
the date wrong.

3349
04:34:23,680 --> 04:34:28,860
But the first June meeting of the Paniac City Council, which can be in tandem with the

3350
04:34:28,860 --> 04:34:31,380
public hearing and special presentation on the same topic.

3351
04:34:32,480 --> 04:34:34,600
Any further discussion on the motion of post-pone?

3352
04:34:35,860 --> 04:34:37,840
Hearing on roll call, court, Doyle on post-pone,

3353
04:34:37,840 --> 04:34:49,580
Chairman, Harker, yes, Harrington, yes, goodman, yes, James, yes, Jones, yes, McGinnis,

3354
04:34:49,800 --> 04:34:52,000
yes, six shades, no names.

3355
04:34:53,020 --> 04:34:53,760
That motion carries.

3356
04:34:55,000 --> 04:34:56,120
The resolution has been postponed.

3357
04:34:56,240 --> 04:34:57,060
We're at number 18.

3358
04:34:57,380 --> 04:34:59,340
Resolution to approve the budget amendment.

3359
04:34:59,400 --> 04:35:01,380
We've previously posted notice of this.

3360
04:35:01,800 --> 04:35:06,260
For the down payment should the council make this decision before the end of the fiscal year.

3361
04:35:06,260 --> 04:35:10,340
We would want to do a budget amendment so we can do the down payment, which is refundable.

3362
04:35:10,800 --> 04:35:14,260
We want to postpone that, too, because we're not going to do that if we don't take the action.

3363
04:35:15,260 --> 04:35:21,360
It's been moved by Councilman Jones, seconded by Councilman Goodman, that this resolution, the current number 18,

3364
04:35:21,560 --> 04:35:25,340
be postponed as well to the June 1st June City Council meeting.

3365
04:35:25,900 --> 04:35:28,440
Anyone need clarity on that motion of postpone?

3366
04:35:29,320 --> 04:35:33,160
Hearing none, roll call, clerk Doyle on postponement.

3367
04:35:34,580 --> 04:35:35,220
Yes.

3368
04:35:35,760 --> 04:35:36,300
Goodman.

3369
04:35:36,660 --> 04:35:36,680
Yes.

3370
04:35:38,900 --> 04:35:39,000
Jones.

3371
04:35:39,500 --> 04:35:39,580
Yes.

3372
04:35:39,920 --> 04:35:40,560
McGinnis.

3373
04:35:40,860 --> 04:35:41,080
Yes.

3374
04:35:41,620 --> 04:35:41,820
Parker.

3375
04:35:43,920 --> 04:35:44,380
Six shades.

3376
04:35:44,600 --> 04:35:45,160
No names.

3377
04:35:45,740 --> 04:35:45,980
All right.

3378
04:35:46,500 --> 04:35:47,960
That motion to postpone carries.

3379
04:35:48,000 --> 04:35:50,500
It will be back before us in early June.

3380
04:35:51,380 --> 04:35:52,820
We are now at communications.

3381
04:35:53,040 --> 04:35:53,840
The first item.

3382
04:35:54,200 --> 04:35:56,880
I'm going to use that to prompt a motion to suspend the rules.

3383
04:35:57,440 --> 04:36:01,980
We have currently scheduled a budget special meeting for next Tuesday.

3384
04:36:01,980 --> 04:36:09,980
But we do not need it because the budget has been adopted. Could I please have a motion to suspend the rules to take up a resolution canceling that meeting?

3385
04:36:10,440 --> 04:36:20,100
All right, it's been moved by Councilman Goodman, second by Councilman Jones, that we suspend the rules to take up a resolution not currently on the previously adopted agenda.

3386
04:36:21,720 --> 04:36:25,540
So, any discussion on suspending the rules, just allowing us to take up this new item?

3387
04:36:26,480 --> 04:36:29,280
Hearing unroll call clerk, do I on the motion to suspend the rules?

3388
04:36:31,160 --> 04:36:31,940
Yes.

3389
04:36:32,640 --> 04:36:33,160
Goodman?

3390
04:36:33,980 --> 04:36:34,400
James?

3391
04:36:34,720 --> 04:36:35,380
Yes.

3392
04:36:35,380 --> 04:36:35,820
Yes.

3393
04:36:36,460 --> 04:36:36,860
Yes.

3394
04:36:37,260 --> 04:36:37,720
McGinnis?

3395
04:36:38,020 --> 04:36:38,360
Yes.

3396
04:36:38,800 --> 04:36:38,900
Parker.

3397
04:36:40,160 --> 04:36:41,260
Six jays in the name.

3398
04:36:41,800 --> 04:36:43,940
That motion carries the rules suspended.

3399
04:36:44,800 --> 04:36:50,240
Now, I would like to entertain a resolution that reads that be it hereby resolve the

3400
04:36:50,240 --> 04:36:58,060
Connie Exity Council officially cancels the previously scheduled special meeting for Tuesday, May

3401
04:36:58,060 --> 04:36:59,680
27, 2025.

3402
04:37:01,260 --> 04:37:06,420
It's been moved by Councilman Goodman, seconded by Councilman Jones, that we adopt that

3403
04:37:06,420 --> 04:37:06,980
resolution.

3404
04:37:08,980 --> 04:37:10,740
Did you get it sufficiently clerked oil?

3405
04:37:11,280 --> 04:37:11,800
Thank you, sir.

3406
04:37:12,380 --> 04:37:13,520
And the discussion at motion?

3407
04:37:14,280 --> 04:37:19,220
Again, to recap, we no longer need to have a meeting next Tuesday because the budget has been

3408
04:37:19,220 --> 04:37:21,300
to put to bed until we amend it further?

3409
04:37:27,670 --> 04:37:33,770
Yes, if correct, if this resolution is adopted, I mean I could still say, hey, no reason to

3410
04:37:33,770 --> 04:37:37,950
meet, but I'm just trying to make a clear cut to reflect the will of this body.

3411
04:37:38,270 --> 04:37:41,290
If you still want to have a special meeting, we'll have a special meeting.

3412
04:37:41,690 --> 04:37:42,910
Your vote, your choice.

3413
04:37:44,750 --> 04:37:46,830
Here I know for the discussion, roll call,

3414
04:37:46,830 --> 04:37:52,970
I've worked with the resolution canceling the special meeting for next Tuesday that had previously been scheduled.

3415
04:37:53,850 --> 04:37:58,070
Good, yes. James Jones. Yes.

3416
04:37:58,670 --> 04:37:59,030
Yes.

3417
04:38:01,050 --> 04:38:01,690
Marker.

3418
04:38:02,330 --> 04:38:05,330
I mean, Karen, too. Yes. Six.

3419
04:38:06,570 --> 04:38:13,430
That motion carries. The resolution is adopted. There will no longer be a meeting the day after Memorial Day.

3420
04:38:13,430 --> 04:38:17,290
So happy Memorial Day to the city, the citizens, and the city council.

3421
04:38:18,470 --> 04:38:22,570
All right, closing comments, Mayor Vribal.

3422
04:38:25,240 --> 04:38:28,920
Well, I want to try to help us get out of here

3423
04:38:28,920 --> 04:38:29,620
to reasonable hours.

3424
04:38:29,940 --> 04:38:34,020
I'll keep it brief since I think this will be one of our earlier meetings.

3425
04:38:34,820 --> 04:38:38,960
But I did just want to respond because it's been brought up repeatedly,

3426
04:38:39,900 --> 04:38:41,540
meeting, after meeting, after meeting.

3427
04:38:41,540 --> 04:38:50,680
And I really didn't want to have to address it because it's nonsense, but given that the previous

3428
04:38:50,680 --> 04:38:57,280
mayor continues to harp on this demolition list, I just want to set the record straight.

3429
04:38:57,420 --> 04:39:05,100
When we came into office, we inherited a demolition list with hundreds of properties on it.

3430
04:39:05,100 --> 04:39:12,800
And we did a lot of due diligence on those properties to the best of our ability to determine

3431
04:39:12,800 --> 04:39:18,760
do these many hundreds of structures really have to be demolished, and it became clear

3432
04:39:18,760 --> 04:39:20,840
that most of them didn't.

3433
04:39:21,060 --> 04:39:26,560
Maybe some were questionable, and we needed to do some additional due diligence, including

3434
04:39:26,560 --> 04:39:29,180
going out to the property or going inside the property.

3435
04:39:29,700 --> 04:39:34,740
And so we sent letters to those property owners, saying and explaining to them that they're

3436
04:39:34,740 --> 04:39:38,760
property ended up on a demolition list, we wanted to check out the property.

3437
04:39:39,360 --> 04:39:40,560
It's as simple as that.

3438
04:39:41,140 --> 04:39:46,040
And the vast majority of these properties got on the demolition list under the previous

3439
04:39:46,040 --> 04:39:46,580
mayor.

3440
04:39:46,880 --> 04:39:52,120
And so for her to come to these meetings and be in dignity about these properties being on

3441
04:39:52,120 --> 04:39:56,380
the demolition list, when they were put on the demolition list, under her administration

3442
04:39:57,720 --> 04:40:01,160
is really absurd, frankly.

3443
04:40:01,160 --> 04:40:13,420
And so all we're doing is trying to appropriately remove properties from the old demolition list from her time as mayor that don't need to be on the demolition list, and that's what we've been doing.

3444
04:40:13,980 --> 04:40:25,940
And so the letters that were sent to property owners was just part of that due diligence to ensure that we're not demolishing properties that do not need to be demolished and that we're getting them off of the demolition list.

3445
04:40:28,820 --> 04:40:30,960
I guess that's your closing comment, anything further?

3446
04:40:32,440 --> 04:40:32,800
Thank you.

3447
04:40:32,860 --> 04:40:33,580
Do you have any mayor?

3448
04:40:34,460 --> 04:40:35,180
Clerk Doyle.

3449
04:40:36,500 --> 04:40:36,520
Okay.

3450
04:40:37,200 --> 04:40:41,120
We are entering the season on which those three gentlemen have their birthdays.

3451
04:40:42,200 --> 04:40:47,120
June is hot and heavy for Parker Grimell, Stephens and Doyle.

3452
04:40:48,500 --> 04:40:52,120
But it is the season of Catholic.

3453
04:40:53,260 --> 04:40:57,880
So now that she's trying to make it a public spectacle, but I just want to say happy birthday,

3454
04:40:57,880 --> 04:41:01,220
and thank you for sacrificing sharing.

3455
04:41:01,700 --> 04:41:05,240
So much of your valuable time to move the city of Pontiac forward.

3456
04:41:05,700 --> 04:41:06,880
It's made a great difference.

3457
04:41:07,120 --> 04:41:08,900
There's still much more difference to be made.

3458
04:41:09,480 --> 04:41:10,380
Happy, happy, happy birthday.

3459
04:41:10,580 --> 04:41:12,500
You are a blessing to this council in this community.

3460
04:41:13,540 --> 04:41:16,560
And with that, you get to have your closing comment first.

3461
04:41:16,680 --> 04:41:17,320
What a treat.

3462
04:41:17,780 --> 04:41:19,300
I got a ton of things.

3463
04:41:19,860 --> 04:41:22,460
I'm glad we're finishing fairly early tonight.

3464
04:41:23,100 --> 04:41:26,920
But our district council meeting is this Thursday.

3465
04:41:26,920 --> 04:41:36,420
It actually falls on my birthday and I decided not to cancel it so I'm going to go ahead and have a birthday district council meeting.

3466
04:41:37,240 --> 04:41:39,080
This Thursday evening at 6 p.m.

3467
04:41:40,420 --> 04:41:44,380
So come out and help me enjoy my birthday.

3468
04:41:45,020 --> 04:41:47,960
This meeting is going to be at New Mount Mariah International Church.

3469
04:41:48,240 --> 04:41:52,320
Our special guests will be what a resource director, Jim Nash,

3470
04:41:52,320 --> 04:42:02,440
And also our city of Pontiac events coordinator Rob and see you to talk about all the great things that are happening in the city, so we hope to see you there.

3471
04:42:03,020 --> 04:42:18,800
Also, this week is, this weekend is going to be the last weekend for our spring cleanup, so we have a number of dumpsters that are going to be deployed in the end district four, we have dumpsters on first and third street.

3472
04:42:18,800 --> 04:42:29,300
And we also have two dumpsters that will be deployed at the Oakland Hope in the CBS parking lot.

3473
04:42:29,420 --> 04:42:43,360
This weekend so if there's if you didn't finish your cleanup in District 4 and you know when we had in previous weekends you can bring whatever you have out this weekend.

3474
04:42:43,360 --> 04:42:50,460
And this will be the last weekend for this report that we will have dumpsters in the community.

3475
04:42:51,320 --> 04:42:57,140
My final comment is just in looking at all of the things that were approved tonight.

3476
04:42:57,600 --> 04:43:04,220
We approved a number of contracts for work in the city on tonight.

3477
04:43:04,220 --> 04:43:18,320
And I am concerned that, you know, we have asked for a community benefits ordinance to be approved and put in place.

3478
04:43:18,520 --> 04:43:29,560
I do know that we're working on that, but we need to make this happen, because looking at the contracts that we approve tonight,

3479
04:43:29,560 --> 04:43:49,520
If we, many of them would come under a community benefits program and you know, we also had a suggestion from a member of the public about getting a local preference clause in our procurement policies that we, you know, where we prefer

3480
04:43:51,180 --> 04:43:56,040
Ponyac residents, businesses that are originate in the city of Ponyac.

3481
04:43:56,620 --> 04:44:02,600
We've got a long way to go to make these things happen, but we just can't go to sleep on

3482
04:44:02,600 --> 04:44:02,880
them.

3483
04:44:03,300 --> 04:44:05,320
We need a community benefits program.

3484
04:44:06,320 --> 04:44:12,400
We need one, and we've been working on it, and everything takes so long, but I just want

3485
04:44:12,400 --> 04:44:21,540
go on record to say that we need to get a community benefits ordinance approved in this city

3486
04:44:21,540 --> 04:44:28,020
as soon as possible, because we really need to take the action that we should take to

3487
04:44:28,020 --> 04:44:34,900
allow Pontiac residents to be a part of the progress and the wonderful things that are

3488
04:44:34,900 --> 04:44:36,440
happening in our city.

3489
04:44:37,180 --> 04:44:38,040
Thank you.

3490
04:44:38,800 --> 04:44:45,720
Thank you. I do want to make a point that Pontiac Resident Prince Car had submitted a written

3491
04:44:46,720 --> 04:44:52,100
comments to the city council. I've shared that with the council members, but I shouldn't

3492
04:44:52,100 --> 04:44:56,480
have assumed he wanted to speak publicly during public comment, but that I should have

3493
04:44:56,480 --> 04:44:59,300
read it. So I want to apologize for my misunderstanding.

3494
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:08,160
I'll work to correct that at the next city council meeting where we read his remarks during the public comment, as well, so I apologize about that.

3495
04:45:08,460 --> 04:45:09,280
We'll get that fixed.

3496
04:45:10,500 --> 04:45:13,260
All right. Continuing on closing comments, Councilman Parker.

3497
04:45:16,070 --> 04:45:23,970
Thank you both, President. Just want to remind everybody about the district five meeting June 12th at 5 p.m. in the Shrine Room downstairs.

3498
04:45:24,210 --> 04:45:29,150
So looking forward to seeing everybody there. Want to remind everybody about the music in the park, June 5th.

3499
04:45:29,150 --> 04:45:32,610
In Galaway Park, please everybody come out and have a good time with us.

3500
04:45:32,870 --> 04:45:38,970
I also want to remind everybody that May, I said this so it may appear at Mount Park's cemetery

3501
04:45:38,970 --> 04:45:46,210
Memorial Day ceremony, May 26 at 11 a.m. Please come back and help us to celebrate all of those

3502
04:45:46,210 --> 04:45:55,450
who gave their lives Memorial Day. It's 11 a.m. in Paramount Park, we do a celebration for the veterans

3503
04:45:55,450 --> 04:45:59,470
if y'all would please come. I'll be out there. I'm sure all the veterans would be out there,

3504
04:45:59,610 --> 04:46:03,930
me and me and Pat, but the care will be out there, celebrate. And so we look forward to seeing

3505
04:46:03,930 --> 04:46:08,010
you, and I'll just say, you know, as we approve this, but there's a lot of things that you

3506
04:46:08,010 --> 04:46:13,210
probably did not see, but I'm sure it will be addressed in some way, shape, or form, in the coming weeks.

3507
04:46:13,330 --> 04:46:23,570
Thank you very much, and have a great day. Thank you, Councilman Jones. No comment. Thank you.

3508
04:46:23,570 --> 04:46:30,470
I'm very excited, and there will be a number of community people helping

3509
04:46:30,470 --> 04:46:35,530
center events happening this summer in District 3, of course, one of them being

3510
04:46:35,530 --> 04:46:36,330
safe with me now.

3511
04:46:36,590 --> 04:46:40,290
The pullover prevention clinic happening in July on the 13th.

3512
04:46:40,790 --> 04:46:43,270
But also separate of that, just a quick little thing.

3513
04:46:43,630 --> 04:46:46,010
For those of you who remember how old I am, I'm 25.

3514
04:46:46,770 --> 04:46:53,350
I have never been to a P-D-D or R-K-L-E-Concent, because unfortunately,

3515
04:46:53,350 --> 04:46:59,850
or very fortunately, I was too young when they were popular and probably from my safety.

3516
04:47:00,070 --> 04:47:02,050
It was pretty good thing that I was not old enough to be there.

3517
04:47:02,950 --> 04:47:08,110
So as a 25-year-old resident of this council, I was a happily-go-on record and say that

3518
04:47:08,110 --> 04:47:13,490
I've never been to a concert start by single-letter last name.

3519
04:47:14,610 --> 04:47:15,350
Have a good night, everyone.

3520
04:47:18,350 --> 04:47:18,650
Council.

3521
04:47:19,450 --> 04:47:23,230
Thank you President McGinnis, first and foremost, I would like to thank everybody for coming

3522
04:47:23,230 --> 04:47:23,910
out tonight.

3523
04:47:24,350 --> 04:47:27,710
I know sometimes I mean it's a long but we definitely move the need on a lot of different

3524
04:47:27,710 --> 04:47:28,250
items.

3525
04:47:29,270 --> 04:47:34,330
I just want to thank everybody who came out to my STEM event, which was held at Pontiac Academy

3526
04:47:34,330 --> 04:47:35,250
Excellence.

3527
04:47:35,850 --> 04:47:40,590
It was a great event with kids first initiative and Pontiac High robotics team was there

3528
04:47:40,590 --> 04:47:41,710
as well.

3529
04:47:41,950 --> 04:47:47,550
Especially shout out to the Michigan dolphins, you football team that brought some of their team

3530
04:47:47,550 --> 04:47:54,310
members out to that event. Also, a special thank you for James McQueen who make things happen

3531
04:47:54,310 --> 04:47:58,990
for our city council. So again, I can thank you for the work that he done.

3532
04:48:00,670 --> 04:48:05,810
Our district's sixth meeting is this Thursday at 6 p.m. at Ruth Peterson. Please come out

3533
04:48:05,810 --> 04:48:12,210
and find out what the city is doing. We also have our neighborhood awards night for the

3534
04:48:12,210 --> 04:48:16,530
sixth district. That's the same night. That's the same night and that's where we're going

3535
04:48:16,530 --> 04:48:19,510
that's been put in the work in the sixth district.

3536
04:48:19,910 --> 04:48:22,370
Those on song heroes that don't get the name called a lot,

3537
04:48:22,470 --> 04:48:26,030
but actually day-to-day every day is doing

3538
04:48:26,030 --> 04:48:29,290
something positive in neighborhoods across the sixth district.

3539
04:48:30,150 --> 04:48:33,310
This event means a lot to me because I've seen people work

3540
04:48:33,310 --> 04:48:37,630
for years and years without any recognition.

3541
04:48:39,610 --> 04:48:42,070
And sometimes those that go out and do it one time

3542
04:48:42,070 --> 04:48:45,270
feel they deserve a resolution by the City Council.

3543
04:48:45,270 --> 04:48:53,390
But we got people doing this stuff year by year and never come down here and demand anything from the city council.

3544
04:48:54,110 --> 04:48:57,990
So I'm honored to get those wars Thursday.

3545
04:48:58,650 --> 04:49:07,390
Also, the first ever man's business expo city of Pontiac, June 7th, downtown Pontiac at the Volk.

3546
04:49:08,450 --> 04:49:14,310
If you know any man that have businesses in the city of Pontiac, or vendors, please contact us.

3547
04:49:14,310 --> 04:49:16,710
It's no feet of getting in.

3548
04:49:16,950 --> 04:49:23,090
They just got to show up and want to sell their goods to the residents of City of Pontiac

3549
04:49:23,090 --> 04:49:23,950
in their friends.

3550
04:49:24,970 --> 04:49:26,690
So again, this is unheard of.

3551
04:49:27,030 --> 04:49:28,990
No registration fee to get in.

3552
04:49:29,410 --> 04:49:33,010
And we know when we had these events, it's usually costs $100 fee.

3553
04:49:33,650 --> 04:49:38,030
And sometime more depend on this event for vendors to get in.

3554
04:49:38,350 --> 04:49:42,770
So we offer this free to the community if you mail vendor in this city.

3555
04:49:42,770 --> 04:49:50,170
Please contact me or James McQueen for the City Council when we will make sure this happens for us.

3556
04:49:50,530 --> 04:49:53,990
Also, Brothers United for change has actually been working on this for with me.

3557
04:49:54,650 --> 04:49:57,210
So again, thank that organization as well and good night.

3558
04:49:58,870 --> 04:49:59,050
Thank you.

3559
04:49:59,170 --> 04:49:59,370
Good evening.

3560
04:49:59,550 --> 04:50:05,070
I'm Mike McGinnis, President of the City Council, but representative on the District 7 East Side.

3561
04:50:05,330 --> 04:50:08,870
Prince Car is a resident of our District 7 on the East Side.

3562
04:50:08,870 --> 04:50:12,350
the Prince of the East Side living on North East Way.

3563
04:50:12,830 --> 04:50:16,390
He's been for many years carrying for a landlocked,

3564
04:50:16,650 --> 04:50:18,430
meaning, you know, it can't get to it from the street.

3565
04:50:18,670 --> 04:50:22,850
It's landlocked, parcel parcel in his neighborhood

3566
04:50:22,850 --> 04:50:25,410
that the city owns for many years.

3567
04:50:25,950 --> 04:50:30,970
And so what he is proposing to the city is a way for to finalize

3568
04:50:30,970 --> 04:50:33,150
what has already been practically happening,

3569
04:50:33,330 --> 04:50:37,050
which is him as a private citizen, maintaining it.

3570
04:50:37,050 --> 04:50:44,250
So that's what will continue to share and amplify out so that way his request could be considered by the city of Pontiac.

3571
04:50:44,910 --> 04:50:49,510
I really want to take a few moments just to say thank you to the city council.

3572
04:50:50,390 --> 04:50:59,050
A lot of folks are sacrificing a lot of time, but also there are personal discomfort dealing with illnesses dealing with a lot of scheduling challenges and stripes.

3573
04:50:59,050 --> 04:51:05,390
So thank you for bearing with it so that way the citizens can have decisions made and they

3574
04:51:05,390 --> 04:51:08,670
can have the answers inverted and we keep moving as a city.

3575
04:51:09,170 --> 04:51:14,490
And finally, thank you to the City Council staff to Shureka Hawkins, our Chief of Staff,

3576
04:51:14,750 --> 04:51:20,150
to James McQueen, our outreach specialist, and Anjali to Santiago are administrative assistant.

3577
04:51:20,410 --> 04:51:26,110
We also have interns that internship opportunities with the Paniac City Council, including

3578
04:51:26,110 --> 04:51:32,090
stipends available. So if you know of a student or a community member that you think would be

3579
04:51:32,090 --> 04:51:37,550
a great for that, please have them reach out to our City Council Chief of Staff, or I can help you

3580
04:51:37,550 --> 04:51:41,890
connect with that opportunity to just want to amplify that. With the adoption of this budget,

3581
04:51:42,670 --> 04:51:48,870
the City Council operations will continue with increased engagement, increased district projects,

3582
04:51:49,510 --> 04:51:55,070
increased responsiveness and services. This branch of your City Government has worked very hard

3583
04:51:55,070 --> 04:52:02,890
to grow with the demands and expectations of the residents of all sites of town with all seven districts,

3584
04:52:03,090 --> 04:52:08,730
and we'll work in these final six, well, now seven months, seven months, right?

3585
04:52:09,550 --> 04:52:15,070
The rest of the year, to finish strong and continue to deliver for plenty of residents.

3586
04:52:15,770 --> 04:52:16,610
Okay, please have a motion.

3587
04:52:17,910 --> 04:52:21,090
It's been moved by Councilman Goodman, seconded by Councilman Jones,

3588
04:52:21,090 --> 04:52:22,610
that we during this evening's meeting.

3589
04:52:23,190 --> 04:52:25,730
Any discussion on the motion hearing on roll call,

3590
04:52:25,810 --> 04:52:26,530
clerk Doyle.

3591
04:52:26,750 --> 04:52:27,310
Hearings in?

3592
04:52:27,530 --> 04:52:27,790
Yes.

3593
04:52:28,750 --> 04:52:29,130
Good evening.

3594
04:52:30,050 --> 04:52:30,490
James?

3595
04:52:31,250 --> 04:52:31,690
Yes.

3596
04:52:33,950 --> 04:52:34,410
McGinnis?

3597
04:52:34,670 --> 04:52:35,010
Yes.

3598
04:52:35,330 --> 04:52:35,490
Parker?

3599
04:52:35,950 --> 04:52:36,170
Yes.

3600
04:52:36,750 --> 04:52:37,370
Six jays.

3601
04:52:37,670 --> 04:52:38,590
That motion carries.

3602
04:52:38,790 --> 04:52:40,510
We stand adjourned at 951 PM.

3603
04:52:40,650 --> 04:52:41,270
Please be safe.