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Okay, good evening everyone and uh

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welcome to the city council uh regular

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meeting. I'm calling this meeting to

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order. The time is now 6:30 p.m. Please

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stand and join us for the flag salute.

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Um council member Perez,

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» Right hand over your heart. Ready,

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begin.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Thank you, Madame Clerk, please take a

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role.

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» Council member GMA

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» Here.

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» Council member Lopez

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» Here.

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» Council member Perez

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» Here.

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» Mayor Prom Hernandez

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» Here. And Mayor McQueen Leon

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» Here. And we're going to have our

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inspiration tonight um by Council Member

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Lopez. Over to you.

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» Thank you.

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» Um council residents,

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» Little inspiration. Uh yesterday we had

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a day off. Um hope hopefully everybody

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got to enjoy Labor Day. Um I know some

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of us still had to work, but uh I I just

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wanted to recognize this. Uh every Labor

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Day, some of us fire up the grill, relax

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with family, enjoy a well-earned break,

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but this day has always meant more than

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just a long weekend. It is a debt of

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gratitude to the everyday people whose

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handle whose hands built this country

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and keep it standing.

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Labor Day honors the American labor

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movement and celebrates the social,

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economic, and cultural contributions of

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workers across the country. Right here

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in Mura County, that story, you can see

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it. You can feel it every single

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morning. Um, as I drive down Wayne Road,

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I see the uh

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I see the the farm workers working in

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the field

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bow down picking rolls of strawberries

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or tending to citrus orchards carrying a

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proud legacy of resilient hard work

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dignity. When Ventura County feeds our

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nation, it's the grit skill of the

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people in our fields. That same spirit

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runs through every corner of our

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community. We see it on the docks here

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at Port Wayani where ILwu long shoreman

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workers guide heavy cranes keep cargo

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moving across the Pacific. You see it in

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our building trades, the carpenters,

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pipe fitters, electricians, framing

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homes and rising skylines across

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Cameroon to Ventura. You feel it. You

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feel it. What really keeps uh makes it

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home is our own public works employees.

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SEIU keeping our parks clean,

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maintaining our roads and managing vital

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infrastructure. Our peace officers out

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in patrol keeping our neighborhoods safe

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and the nurses and healthc care staff

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pulling long shifts in our clinics. The

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teachers showing up for our kids every

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morning and the civilian mechanics and

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military personnel keeping operational

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mission ready across Point Magoo and

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Port Wayne. Labor Day is a simple truth.

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Every job has dignity and every worker

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deserves respect. Thank you.

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» Yes. Close session item A. There is no

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reportable action. Close session item B.

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There's no reportable action.

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» Great. Thank you. We'll now move to

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public comments not pertaining to the

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items uh on the agenda. Uh comments will

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be limited to three minutes. If you're

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participating via Zoom, please use the

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raise hand feature. Um, this process

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will be the same uh pertaining to each

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agenda item. Madame Clerk, are there any

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public comments?

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» Yes. Uh, first up is Martin Sanchez.

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» Good evening everyone. Um, my name is

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Martin Sanchez. I live on u on Scott

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Street on the 66tory block. And um

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as we may all be aware, a couple of

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years ago um we had extensive flooding.

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I attended a meeting such as this one at

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after the fact and I inquired um

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um about the contingencies that the city

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to make sure that doesn't happen again.

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I inquired about the pump house that's

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on Surive Drive.

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I inquired if it had been retrofitted or

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if there was any plans to retrofited so

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that it could u accept

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additional power in the case of a power

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outage because without the pumps

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there's going to be flooding there.

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And at that time uh I was informed that

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uh someone would get me that information

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later on. Uh to this date I have not

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received anything and perhaps I was

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supposed to come and inquire personally.

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Is there any information about it?

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» And um yes I believe that our public

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works department actually had put some

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information together on that. So, we'll

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have the public works department get

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back to you.

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» I would really appreciate that. Uh as a

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me as personally as u quite a number of

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uh the residents on that block,

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» We suffered extensive damage

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in our household. We had over $30,000 in

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damage.

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the race foundation part of the house in

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the front uh the whole um race

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foundation was flooded.

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The addition in the back which was on a

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slab the water came in through the

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walls. So consequently all the drywall

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had to be replaced

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to a certain height. and uh I didn't

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inquire with all the other neighbors,

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but I'm assuming that they had similar

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damage as well. And um previous to that

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event,

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my mistake was that I didn't take the

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name of the person that I talked to when

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they were cleaning up the creek. I did

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inquire at that time if um there were

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any what contingency plans the city had

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regarding that pump and regarding in

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case of a power outage what was the

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plan.

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I have um some knowledge on um on the

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issues of pumps because I used to work

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for the state of California, the

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department of transportation

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and I was in charge of the pump houses

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in the state highway system

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and I couldn't see any retrofit uh

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connections to for a a generator a

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three-phase generator which those pumps

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do require.

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» Great. Thank you. as our thank you. As

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our city manager said, someone will

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reach out to you from public works.

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» We really appreciate great to get back

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to you. And we also have some items

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coming up talking about some of the

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storm preparation we've done in the city

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as well. So, we'll also share some of

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that information

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» And thank you for your comment.

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» Bobby Martinez.

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Good evening, Mayor McQueen Leon, Mayor

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Pro Tim Hernandez, city council, me uh

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members of our community and our staff.

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I want to invite you all to our second

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annual fundraiser for the Wimi Sister

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Cities Committee. It's tacos, music, and

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games night. It's next Monday, September

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14th, and it's from 5 to 8:00 p.m. at 6

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o'clock. We'll start the performance

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from the Weini High School Florico

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dance. And we're also going to have the

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oostas mariachi from the whole district

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perform. Right after that, we'll have

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games before and after and we'll have

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raffles. And I I want to invite you all

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and just let you know that as a way of

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saying thank you for letting us use the

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community center. I do have a ticket for

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all of you council members. Sorry, not

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the attorney or the city manager or city

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clerk. Sorry. Sorry. You guys will have

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to get your own. But um but hopefully

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you can all join us and it's for a great

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cause. Last year, we were able to

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put out scholarships or you want to

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think of them as prizes for the for the

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kids in our community that participated

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in the scholarship and we want to do it

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again and we want to do it bigger than

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we did it last year. So, um hopefully

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everyone can come out and support. I

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think it's a really good way to bring

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the community together and just en enjoy

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some of the great things that we're

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doing here in our city.

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» Thank you.

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» Great. Thank you

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» Ever Ariano and Steven GMA.

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» Thank you. Ever's going to make a

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request here and I just wanted to come

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and stand behind him. Had a

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long-standing relationship with his

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father, surfer, fisherman. Kind of don't

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quite see eye to eye, but uh his father

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was a beautiful person and I'm standing

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here behind him to support him.

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Hello. Uh, dear mayor and members of the

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Port Wayini City Council, my father,

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Romeo Oliggoni Ariano, passed away on

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March 14, 2025.

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Sorry, allergies.

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Prior to his passing, while in the end

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stage of his life, he asked to be taken

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to the Weini Pier for one last visit.

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While I was pushing him in his

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wheelchair on the pier, we came face to

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face with Mr. Gamma here.

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The interaction followed was priceless.

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My father had a long friendly

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relationship with Mr. Gamma going back

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many years.

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They had an ongoing discussion regarding

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the surfers

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who surfed near the pier. My father

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would say, "There's a whole beach.

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Why do they have to surf here where we

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fish?

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Mr. Gamble's response was

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um always the same because this waves

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are here.

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The relationships he had with pier and

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his fishing buddies personify

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the connections people have with the

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ocean.

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My father spent countless days fishing

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from the pier.

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For him, fishing was far more than a

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pastime.

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It was a meaningful expression of his

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Filipino culture and heritage.

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Each visit connected him to family

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traditions, treasured memories, and deep

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relationship with the Philipp Filipino

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community that has long been shared with

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the ocean here in the city of poor wine.

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My father became part of the life and

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character of Wine Pier. His familiar

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presence reflected the quiet beauty of

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our waterfront.

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People gathering across generations,

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sharing stories, practicing traditions,

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and finding peace beside the sea and

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interacting with surfers.

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A plaque honoring my father would

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recognize not only beloved local

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fishermen but also the cultural history

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and contributions of the Filipino

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community in the city of Porini.

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It would remind it would remind future

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generations that the story of our peer

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is written through way the lives of

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people who loved it and made it an

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integral part of their lives.

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Respectfully, I request that the city of

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Poor Wayne Oops.

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» Go ahead, finish your thought.

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» Allow or create a way to honor the

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memory and legacy of pure fishermen.

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Starting with my father by allowing our

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family to place a commemorative plaque

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on Wing Me Pier.

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» Great. Thank you. You done?

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» I s Sorry.

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» Okay. Go ahead.

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» Just one more paragraph.

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» One whole paragraph.

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» I sincerely hope the city will consider

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this heartfelt request and allow my

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father's memory to remain the in the

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place where he spent so many meaningful

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days, 40 years worth.

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uh such a tribute would provide comfort

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to his family and friends while

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preserving his connection to anime pier

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for generations to come. I note that

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there is a brick memorial near the

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entrance of the pier where families have

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bought a brick to honor their loved

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ones. My hope is that a similar program

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can be created so a uniform and improved

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method can be place in be in place to

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honor the many fishermen of

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» Okay pier. Okay.

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» Thank you.

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» Thank you so much. Thank you.

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» Can you just say your father's last

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name? You said Romero

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» Ariano.

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» Ariano. Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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» Is that No more?

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» That concludes public comment.

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» Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, we're

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going to now move on to the agenda

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approval. Um, may I have a motion and a

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second to approve the agenda?

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» Move to approve.

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» There a second.

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» Second.

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» Great. Madame clerk, please make one.

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» All in favor?

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» All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes

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unanimous.

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» Thanks. Do we have any members of

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council uh that have a conflict of

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interest to disclose for any item on the

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agenda?

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Okay, we'll move on to the

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presentations. We'll start with the

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National Suicide Prevention uh month

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proclamation.

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And so I'd like to welcome Maya Zumaya

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to the podium while um Council Member

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Perez reads the proclamation.

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» Thank you. Proclamation is in honor of

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National Suicide Prevention Month.

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Whereas September is recognized as

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National Suicide Prevention Month,

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providing an opportunity to raise

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awareness, reduce stigma, promote hope,

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and support those affected by suicide.

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Whereas suicide is a serious and

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preventable public health issue

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affecting individuals, families, and

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communities throughout Ventura County

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and across the nation. And whereas

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according to the Center for Disease

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Control and Prevention, suicide is one

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of the leading causes of death in the

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United States. And every life lost

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represents a profound tragedy for loved

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ones and the community. And whereas

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Ventura County Behavioral Health through

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funding provided by the Mental Health

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Services Act is supporting

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community-based suicide prevention by

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making evidence-based trainings

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available at no cost to the public.

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Whereas community partners including MZ

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Independent Consulting help advance

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suicide prevention efforts by

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encouraging community members to

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participate in free suicide prevention

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training such as QPR question persuade

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refer or living work safe talk to

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recognize warning signs and learn how to

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take action to save lives. Whereas the

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city of Port Weini recognizes the

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importance of fostering a community in

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which individuals feel valued,

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supported, connected, and encouraged to

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help to seek help when facing mental

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health challenges. And therefore, be it

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proclaimed that the city council of the

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city of Port Wanimi hereby recognizes

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the month of September 2026 as National

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Suicide Prevention Month and encourages

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all to take part in suicide prevention

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efforts by becoming informed, offering

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support, and promoting mental wellness.

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The city council further recognizes MZ

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Independent Consulting for its efforts

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in raising awareness and offering hope,

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support, and resources to those who may

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be struggling. Would you like to have

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words?

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» Yes. Thank you. Good evening, um,

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council members. I just want to thank

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again the city of Pro Wayne for honoring

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such an important topic and like the

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proclamation says, we are offering these

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free trainings. Um we just did six

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trainings today almost 400 students uh

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Deloul High School and we would love to

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partner with your city um those who have

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businesses in this city um nonprofits we

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would like to partner with you so that

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we can also make an impact in the city

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of Port Wayne. So um we have saved lives

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through these uh classes and work with

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people to help prevent suicide. So, it

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is making a difference, but we do know

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988 calls are increasing

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um as well as suicides in our county.

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So, we would love for as many community

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members as possible to uh take advantage

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of these free classes. There's several

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different types at several different

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levels. Um so, there's something that

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fits everybody. We also encourage um the

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school district to participate as well.

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So, we're doing classes all across uh

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Oxnar Unified School Districts and we

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want to encourage um the city of Portway

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to partake as well. Thank you again for

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um honoring this uh very important

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month.

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» Thank you.

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» Um would you all like to go down for a

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photo?

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One, two, three.

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I want to do one for my husband.

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Let me see just in case.

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You have like

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Okay.

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for our next um

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for next uh proclamation. I'm going to

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go ahead and read this. Doesn't look

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like we have anyone to accept it, but I

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know you're going to have words after.

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Okay, great. This is the proclamation

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national preparedness month and 911

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remembrance. Whereas September is

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National Preparedness Month and offers

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us the opportunity to reflect on

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significant disasters we have

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encountered, including the September

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11th attacks and recent winter storms.

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And whereas during this month, our

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community honors and remembers the lives

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lost on September 11th and the brave

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Americans who displayed extraordinary

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acts of courage and sacrifice. And

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whereas severe storms and other hazards

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remind us that we live in a world of

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constant risk where the next emergency

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could occur at any moment. And

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preparedness can mean the difference

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between inconvenience and tragedy.

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And whereas National Preparedness Month

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is a crucial opportunity for the

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residents and businesses of Portini to

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prepare for all types of emergencies

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whether at home work or in recreational

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spaces. And whereas National

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Preparedness Month encourages

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individuals to take steps toward

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personal preparedness, ensuring that

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households, workplaces, schools,

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institutions of higher learning, houses

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of worship, and community- based

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organizations are equipped to handle

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disasters and reduce loss of lives and

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economic impact in the event of a

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crisis. And whereas part participation

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in community emergency response training

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empowers more citizens to take action,

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enhancing their preparedness and

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understanding of potential disasters,

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whether natural or man man-made

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and equipping them with the knowledge to

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stay safe and mitigate damage. And

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whereas emergency preparedness is the

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shared responsibility of every resident

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of Port Wine and all are encouraged to

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prioritize preparedness by working

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together to ensure our community is

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ready for any type of disaster or

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emergency.

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And whereas engaging in National

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Preparedness Month activities will

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position Portini as a leader in

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preparedness and contribute to the

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overall resilience of our nation. Now

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therefore be it proclaimed that the city

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council of the city of Port Wimi does

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hereby proclaim the month of September

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2026 as national preparedness month in

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the city of Port Winei and encourages

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all residents, businesses and

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organizations to participate in

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preparedness activities and contribute

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to building a more resilient Portini and

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further encourages all to honor and

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remember the lives lost on September 11,

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20, 2001. And to recognize the courage,

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service, and sacrifice of those who

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responded. Proclaim this eighth day of

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September

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2026.

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Signed for our council members. Over to

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you, city manager.

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» Thank you, mayor. And uh yeah, when we

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were put this agenda together a couple

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weeks ago, we put the agenda out last

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Monday. We were thinking uh that we were

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being proactive and ahead of the curve

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and uh trying to be prepared and remind

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our community to be prepared. Um as I

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mentioned earlier, we are planning to

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have some items related to preparedness

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come to council in coming uh months. Uh

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but we're also we're looking ahead to

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what we're hearing is going to be a uh a

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potential super El Nino this year. And

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so I think uh we wanted to start

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reminding people early to start

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preparing uh this year is that it has

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potential to be particularly problematic

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for Port Wayne with um potential uh

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storm surges, king tides and uh and uh a

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lot of rain in a short time period which

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is a bad recipe for us here in Port

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Wayne. Um, so we thought we were being

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proactive and then right after we put

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the agenda out, we got a hurricane

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notice last week, right? And so, uh,

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luckily the hurricane ended up not, uh,

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hitting Southern California, but it just

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kind of reflects that idea that those

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extreme weather events that used to be

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once in a lifetime aren't once in a

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lifetime anymore. I think we've had two

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hurricane

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uh warnings in the last three years and

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then between those we had one in 10,000

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year level storms. So, so it's

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definitely uh you know reminding

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everybody to take preparation emergency

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preparedness seriously. Um our list of

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things we're doing for preparedness is

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long. Uh even just things behind the

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scenes that people may not know about is

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things like uh creating a um uh working

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with the Red Cross to create a local uh

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emergency shelter, which is something

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that we've never had um uh specific to

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uh the city of Portland previously. Um

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uh and uh some of the work mentioned

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earlier, even just uh uh things that may

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not seem like emergency related, but

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things like removing all the debris from

555
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:39,600
the creeks is done to ensure that the

556
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:41,039
creeks can then move water in an

557
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,039
emergency and that it's not going to

558
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,640
back up. So, we're really trying to

559
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,880
build emergency preparedness into

560
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,440
everything we do. But we want to remind

561
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,320
our residents as the as the uh

562
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,120
proclamation said, it is a joint effort

563
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:59,679
and it really requires everybody to be

564
00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:02,799
prepared uh and to take the steps to um

565
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:04,320
to prepare for the next emergency. So,

566
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,760
we wanted to give some reminders on

567
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,399
that. We've also put some of this

568
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,399
information recently in posts online and

569
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:12,480
we'll plan to do more during National

570
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:14,799
Preparedness Month. Uh but we wanted to

571
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,559
remind people to prepare. Um learn the

572
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,720
hazards where they live, work, and

573
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:21,440
attend school. Plan how to evacuate or

574
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,679
shelter safely. Uh include children,

575
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,000
older adults, people with disabilities,

576
00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:28,080
and pets in plans. Keep emergency

577
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,159
contacts current and written down and

578
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,279
practice before an emergency occurs. And

579
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:36,480
help your friends and neighbors prepare.

580
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:39,279
Um the uh communication plan, we have

581
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,399
some information here on on uh uh things

582
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,720
that should be included in the

583
00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:46,720
communication plans, uh things like

584
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:49,200
meeting places, uh evacuation routes, um

585
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:52,000
household needs such as uh med

586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,320
medication. And we hear every emergency

587
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,720
that one of the key things is people

588
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,320
realize that they need uh medication or

589
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,320
food for animals. So that's something

590
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:04,960
else to just be prepared for. um and uh

591
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:08,480
just uh keeping preparedness in mind and

592
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,399
practicing and and updating uh plans and

593
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,320
uh reviewing those every year. So, it's

594
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:14,799
part of why we do National Preparedness

595
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Month every September.

596
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:20,000
Um we also uh remind everybody to be

597
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,799
prepared by building a kit, having a go

598
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:26,880
bag, a stay box, uh water and food, um

599
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,960
health and safety equipment, uh power

600
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,640
and information. And I think that's

601
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,559
becoming more and more common now with

602
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,200
all the public safety power shut offs

603
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:37,279
too, but being prepared and having uh

604
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,919
you know uh phone chargers, battery

605
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:43,200
powered uh items, power banks, things

606
00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:44,799
like that. And then um having copies of

607
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,840
identification, insurance and contact

608
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,440
information, cash and keys uh and

609
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,720
comfort items for children and food and

610
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,559
supply for pets. Um we also just want to

611
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,080
take a moment to remind everybody of

612
00:29:54,559 --> 00:30:00,720
resources that are available. um uh for

613
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,559
information. Uh there's a new one, so we

614
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640
really wanted to highlight that. But um

615
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:06,080
VC Alert and VC Emergency, I know we've

616
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,159
really tried to get the word out on

617
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,240
those in recent years. I think a lot of

618
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:12,720
people have signed up for those. Uh

619
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,120
there's also Readyaccount.gov,

620
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,240
but the new one that is just being

621
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:21,120
released is Aware California, which can

622
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:25,120
be found at aare.ca.gov.

623
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:28,559
And uh I my understanding is our Ventura

624
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,799
County Fire Department across uh the

625
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:33,039
fire department across the county is

626
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:36,399
really kind of moving to putting a lot

627
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:39,279
of information on aware uh CA and so

628
00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:41,760
that's going to be a new key one. Um

629
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,279
there had been like a third-party

630
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,960
applications and things that were pretty

631
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,760
re pretty good and pretty reliable but

632
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,320
this is now going to be the the official

633
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,760
uh public safety app. And so we had uh a

634
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,679
lot of people on our team sign up for

635
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,760
this recently and there's already

636
00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:57,760
significant amount of notifications and

637
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,440
things on there.

638
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,360
And then for some of these weather

639
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,440
conditions that we're seeing, uh we

640
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,200
remind everybody to check official

641
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,960
sources for weather forecasts and

642
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,840
warnings because you do see

643
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,399
misinformation and um people some people

644
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,399
seem to try to scare people. But um I

645
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:16,559
know uh we had gotten an alert I think

646
00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:19,360
by Wednesday that there was no impact

647
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:21,039
expected from the hurricane warning and

648
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,760
then we saw that some people were still

649
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:26,159
posting uh things which seem to try to

650
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,640
scare people. But um having an official

651
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:30,240
source like weather.gov is a good uh

652
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,960
thing to bookmark so you can check

653
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:38,000
during emergencies.

654
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Um, and as I said earlier, the key is,

655
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,960
uh, really just getting preparedness in

656
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,640
mind. Uh, and always trying to take

657
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,240
steps to prepare and building those

658
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,320
things into your plans. Um, and you

659
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,919
know, just, uh, having thinking about

660
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,880
being prepared every once in a while

661
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:56,799
isn't really, um, doesn't really get you

662
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,399
there. So, we remind everybody to take

663
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:02,960
steps, uh, a step at a time. And uh

664
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:05,919
every September, National Preparedness

665
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Month, um kind of check your checklists

666
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:11,600
and uh your go bags and uh make sure

667
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,200
you're getting uh you have accurate uh

668
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,120
websites and things to get information

669
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,760
from. So um I will just close with yeah

670
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,919
with the uh we've had people ask are we

671
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,159
concerned about the potential of the

672
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:26,480
super El Nino? And the answer is yes.

673
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:29,120
And uh what we would tell everybody you

674
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,440
know is get prepared now. And we're also

675
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,640
working on trying to get prepared now uh

676
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,559
because uh the last super El Nino there

677
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,200
were impacts to things like our

678
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:41,600
infrastructure and things which just uh

679
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,600
something like the pier is not built to

680
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,320
withstand you know that those types of

681
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,000
conditions. So, so, um, we're still

682
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600
we're trying to do the steps we need to

683
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,480
do, but we also want to remind everybody

684
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,399
to start preparing, uh, because right

685
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,919
now it's still early being forecasted,

686
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:58,000
but most people seem to agree that they

687
00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:01,120
think it will be, uh, impactful this

688
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,640
year. So, we want to, uh, get prepared

689
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,640
now. And, uh, our public works

690
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:09,120
department has really, uh, taken um, uh,

691
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,399
a lot of the effort of creating the the

692
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,159
sandbags and distributing those

693
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:14,000
sandbags. So, those are still available

694
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:15,840
and people may want to get prepared and

695
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,360
get some of those ahead of time as well

696
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,200
in our public works yard. So, um and

697
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,559
with that, uh that's all we have for

698
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,519
preparedness month.

699
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,159
» Can we have

700
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:26,159
» Yes.

701
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:27,200
» Okay. So, let's start. Um council member

702
00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:29,440
Lopez and Perez.

703
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,679
» I know we're not supposed to uh we're

704
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,120
not supposed to talk to public comments,

705
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:37,279
but since we're talking about this, I

706
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:40,640
want to direct my questions to you. Um

707
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:45,039
would it be okay to um

708
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:47,279
just to provide uh the city uh you know

709
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:49,120
our maintenance upkeep plan and and the

710
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:53,840
things that we're we're doing to prepare

711
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:56,080
our you know the drainage. Uh

712
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,720
just just a quick you know uh maybe

713
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,600
public works can brief uh the city on

714
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,640
the on the state of our drainage going

715
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,039
out our our outflow. I think it would be

716
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,839
good just you know so the residents can

717
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,480
see what what uh what's what's been

718
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:14,000
done.

719
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,399
» Yeah. So like a um future presentation

720
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,639
related to

721
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:23,040
uh drainage

722
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,720
» Work. Yeah. Yeah. We could do um or if

723
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,280
the council

724
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,040
uh would like that that's we could do a

725
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,639
presentation on something like that. I

726
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,560
can note that um for example, our teams

727
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,200
went out and checked all the flood

728
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,960
channels last week ahead of the hur you

729
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,399
know the hurricane warning and that's

730
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,440
something we typically do for each

731
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:44,800
storm. Uh but if u the council could

732
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,399
request a presentation on that.

733
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,480
» Yeah. And then like let's let's talk

734
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:51,520
about the areas that were flooded

735
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,240
» Um and and things that we can do

736
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,079
» Uh things any upkeep we can we can get

737
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,240
in those areas as well. That's all I

738
00:34:56,079 --> 00:35:00,560
got. Thanks. So, regarding that to

739
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:03,680
follow that, two of the issues that came

740
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,000
up during the floodings were not our

741
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,720
own. They were the pump station in

742
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Oxnard and then the channel for the

743
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:13,280
county. Have any of those agencies have

744
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,760
you been involved in conversations

745
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,640
regarding those items since they were a

746
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,640
problem the last time it flooded?

747
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,520
» Yeah, I think um we've had several

748
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:27,040
follow-up conversations with um with

749
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,359
various agencies. the uh yeah, just to

750
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,200
reiterate, the Channel Islands drainage

751
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:36,320
and well, some of the other drainage as

752
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:40,480
well are actually county um uh operated.

753
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:42,160
Um, I think you may recall uh because

754
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,119
you were the mayor at the time of uh

755
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,359
that incident that um uh we had been

756
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:50,079
told that the county uh drainage team

757
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:52,800
would come uh do a presentation

758
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,640
explaining a lot of you know what things

759
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,960
that were done and things like that uh

760
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,599
following the event. Um they ended up

761
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,720
having a lot of staff turnover. So uh

762
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:05,119
that never happened with that group. Um

763
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:08,240
but uh we've had some meetings where we

764
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:10,000
still initiated meetings to try to ha

765
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,920
have the county to make sure that the

766
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,760
county's aware of our concern. So we've

767
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,160
had several meetings uh along those

768
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,839
lines

769
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,240
» And we were waiting on a report to

770
00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:17,599
actually

771
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,960
» There's supposed to be a report and then

772
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,440
they were going to come present it at

773
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,240
council and that that ultimately did not

774
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,400
happen.

775
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:26,800
» And just a comment my husband was part

776
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,320
of the rescue when that first El Nino

777
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,880
came in. He remembers the water being

778
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,920
waste deep in houses. So, it's if it's

779
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,920
going to be worse than that, then

780
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,160
» I think I recall us council being

781
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,359
briefed about the the pump being

782
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,760
replaced

783
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:47,280
» And the mechanism on how it got um put

784
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,599
out of service.

785
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,760
» Um and I I think I even recall the

786
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,079
photographs that were shown of us. So,

787
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
» Yeah,

788
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:56,240
» It was up there got stuck.

789
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,920
» No, but we we had we had a pump station

790
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,680
that Brian spoke. Is that correct?

791
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:04,400
I I don't recall it's three years ago,

792
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,839
but I know we we had um done some

793
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,480
follow-up presentations on some of the

794
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:10,079
items we had uh authority over, but

795
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,760
there were some that the county was

796
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,560
supposed to come back and present on as

797
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
well.

798
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,280
» Okay.

799
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,440
» Did you have any comment?

800
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,359
» I had comment and question. And I was in

801
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,880
fact going to ask um during agenda

802
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:25,920
review to um agendaize a discussion on

803
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:29,119
what we can expect to happen

804
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,880
um with this upcoming El Nino. Uh we

805
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,720
hear it's going to be a super El Nino,

806
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,119
but is it going to be super rain or it's

807
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:36,640
going to be super drought? Um we don't

808
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,800
really know, but I think we need to be

809
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,320
prepared either way. And I appreciate

810
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,520
the presentation that you did here

811
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,760
tonight. Um James is uh very helpful.

812
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Um, but I think, you know, this talks

813
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,480
about what the public should do. I think

814
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,400
um to keep our public um reassured that

815
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,640
the city's doing everything they can do.

816
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,960
I I would like to hear that presentation

817
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,920
on on our flood channels, what's being

818
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,880
done, um where people can get sandbags

819
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:08,240
and even how to place sandbags. And um

820
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,320
FYI, the friends of the library and our

821
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:14,400
um county library are going to be

822
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,680
hosting on October 10th a community

823
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,200
presentation on El Nino preparedness. So

824
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,119
I think that uh and the city is going to

825
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560
be helping uh public works will be

826
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,160
helping with that. So I think it's a

827
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,200
good partnership and a good opportunity

828
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,320
to get our our residents um better

829
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,520
prepared. So more to come on that.

830
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,040
» Great. Thank you. And mayor, um, we had

831
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,839
one public comment regarding this

832
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,400
presentation.

833
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:38,240
» Okay.

834
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,880
» Um,

835
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,320
Mr. Martin Sanchez, you can go ahead and

836
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,000
provide your public comment regarding

837
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:48,960
the presentation.

838
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:51,839
» Um, what I've heard is great. Um,

839
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,359
however, you have to consider that no

840
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:58,320
matter how much the homeowners prepare,

841
00:38:55,359 --> 00:39:01,520
it's going to overwhelm us if the main

842
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,079
thing, the pump's not working.

843
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,720
During the last time it flooded, I was

844
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:10,079
personally out there and I noticed the

845
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:14,200
big pump wasn't working. Only the 4-in

846
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,200
one for the nuisance water.

847
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:21,520
That's why I brought the issue about

848
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:23,680
additional power. Why wasn't it working?

849
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,400
I know that they have to cycle through

850
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,480
it because they're not 100% cycle. And

851
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,240
that's why they usually have two or

852
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,119
three pumps. So there's complete cycle

853
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:36,640
because they may be 33% cycle, 60%

854
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:39,520
cycle, but they accumulate and there's

855
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,760
at least one large pump working. A 4 in

856
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,240
pump is not going to do anything. Keep

857
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:47,520
in mind that that uh Scott Street is the

858
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:52,160
lowest spot and it's the outfall for all

859
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:55,359
the waterhed that comes from J Street,

860
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:59,760
Pleasant Valley Road, Ventura, and Wimi

861
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:59,760
Road. All the water heads there.

862
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,280
All the water has to be handled by the

863
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,640
pump into the creek.

864
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,599
And if the pump's not working,

865
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,440
how much uh no matter what you prepare,

866
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:16,440
I had sandbags all the way around my

867
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,440
house.

868
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,119
» That's your comment. Thank you so much.

869
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,560
And I think the um

870
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:30,400
while you're preparing to speak, the

871
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,079
council asked for an item to discuss

872
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,800
city preparations to answer your

873
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:36,880
question for a future meeting.

874
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,240
» One last thing, if I may make one more

875
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,040
comment.

876
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,920
» Uh uh 10 seconds.

877
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,079
» Okay. 10 seconds.

878
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,680
» I I've lived this in this area since the

879
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,599
early 60s.

880
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,320
» I remember when there was nothing here.

881
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:54,560
It was a flood plane. It was a wetland.

882
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,280
» We took it over. We have to have serve

883
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,560
the consequences. But at that time, the

884
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,960
watershed was still existing.

885
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,440
» Okay.

886
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,200
» Now with all the buildings, the wershed

887
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400
is gone. So it has to go somewhere.

888
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,880
» Yes. Thank you so much.

889
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,240
» Yeah. So the the item that you're

890
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,920
referring to would have to be a separate

891
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,359
agendaized item. It can't be discussed

892
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,720
on this agenda

893
00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:15,440
» By state law.

894
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:15,839
» Yes.

895
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,839
» Yes.

896
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:18,960
» And we've discussed over the years, but

897
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,720
we can schedule a future one.

898
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,480
» Yeah. Someone's going to get get back to

899
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:26,480
you. Thank you. Um so we are going to um

900
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,000
we'll now recess from the city council

901
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,079
meeting and call to order the housing

902
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,240
authority regular meeting. The time is

903
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,720
now 7:08.

904
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:36,800
U madame clerk please take role.

905
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,280
» Member GMA

906
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,319
» Here.

907
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,800
» Member Lopez

908
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:41,760
» Here.

909
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,160
» Member Perez

910
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,599
» Here.

911
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,119
» Vice Chair Hernandez

912
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,359
» Here. Chair McQueen Leon

913
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:46,880
» Here.

914
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:48,400
» I'll let the record reflect that member

915
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,319
Brown is absent.

916
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,800
» Great. We will now hear public comments

917
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:54,240
not pertaining to items on the agenda.

918
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,079
Comments will be limited to three

919
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:58,560
minutes. If you are participating via

920
00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:00,400
Zoom, please use the raise hand feature.

921
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,160
This process will be the same for the

922
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,839
agenda items. Madame clerk, are there

923
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,359
any public comments?

924
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:07,280
» No public comments.

925
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:10,079
» Great. We'll now move to the housing

926
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:13,200
authority consent calendar. Um, madame

927
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,880
clerk, are there any public comments?

928
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,319
So, I did that already.

929
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,960
» No public comments for the consent

930
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:19,200
calendar.

931
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,040
» Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So, these

932
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,800
items in the consent calendar will be

933
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,560
approved in one motion unless an

934
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,280
authority member would like to request

935
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,720
to remove an item from the agenda. Any

936
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,560
items to be removed?

937
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,680
» I'd like to pull item three.

938
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,480
» Item three.

939
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:40,079
Anyone else?

940
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:42,480
If not, is there a a motion and a second

941
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,880
for items one and two?

942
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,400
» Move to approve items one and two.

943
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,240
» Second.

944
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,599
Um, can we get a roll call, please?

945
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,000
» All in favor?

946
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,720
» I.

947
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,680
» All opposed. Hearing none. Motion passes

948
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,760
unanimously.

949
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,640
» Great. Uh, Council Member Lopez, you can

950
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,040
go ahead and talk about

951
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,160
» Yeah. So,

952
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,440
there there's um in in the

953
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,880
dispersements. Um, there is a uh a

954
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,960
catchall vendor account and it's um

955
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,319
99999

956
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:17,599
and it's it's all it's all Willbrook.

957
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:21,240
Um, is that like a catchall

958
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:21,240
uh account number?

959
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:30,839
» Can you say what page you're on?

960
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,839
» Three starts at threeish

961
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:38,520
of the

962
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,520
dispersement sheet.

963
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,200
» So you look at the vendor numbers.

964
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,720
» What page was that? What did you say?

965
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,200
» It just starts number three on the

966
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,640
dispers dispersement sheet

967
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,319
» For the housing.

968
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:55,200
» Okay. It'll say like Willowbrook

969
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:58,319
and they're just they're like 59s and

970
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,839
some is that like a catchall number

971
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:01,599
because what I noticed in the other

972
00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:05,920
dispersements

973
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:08,319
it it's uh it's they're uh

974
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,720
they're all nines as well for other

975
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:11,720
other things.

976
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,440
Yeah. Which um column? I see numbers

977
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,720
ending in 524.

978
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,920
» They're vendor numbers.

979
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:27,720
» Uh it's on page 27

980
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,720
of 74

981
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:34,599
and it's the vendor number

982
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,599
to the left

983
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,280
of the page.

984
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:41,920
» Okay.

985
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,599
Yeah, I believe those are um if there

986
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,359
isn't

987
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:48,319
so these are all uh all these credits

988
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:50,400
that show are like re uh refunds or uh

989
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:52,960
and so I think it's if it's not a vendor

990
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,760
with with a vendor number but a like a

991
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,240
refund to a customer. Yeah. Then they're

992
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,680
all categorized as 999999.

993
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:03,839
» Okay. Just wanted to make sure that's

994
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,240
» That that that's what I thought it was.

995
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:08,240
» Yeah. I'll confirm that and I'll let

996
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,240
everybody know if if uh there's some

997
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:12,880
other meaning to it, but I don't believe

998
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:15,839
so.

999
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,040
» Okay.

1000
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:19,040
» All right. That's all I got.

1001
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,720
» Okay. Can I get a motion and a second

1002
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,280
for item number three?

1003
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,839
» Second.

1004
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,640
» Okay. Um Madam Cler,

1005
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:27,200
» All in favor?

1006
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,680
» I

1007
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
» I.

1008
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,640
» All opposed?

1009
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,319
» Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

1010
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,480
» Okay. So, are there any um members any

1011
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:40,800
authority members uh have any reports or

1012
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,000
comments to make

1013
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,040
» This time?

1014
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,160
» No.

1015
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,760
» Go ahead.

1016
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,359
» Um

1017
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:53,359
I I received a letter from a resident of

1018
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:56,079
Mar Vista and uh I I forwarded the

1019
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:59,119
letter to a city manager to send over to

1020
00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:04,000
Housing Inc. And uh I was hoping that we

1021
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:08,720
could be presented in the future with

1022
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:11,680
how the voucher program is administered.

1023
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,200
Um because I don't have any knowledge of

1024
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,280
how it's administered. I just know that

1025
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,960
we do have a voucher program and and I'm

1026
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:22,000
kind of vague on how it works. So um

1027
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:25,040
maybe in the future we could have that.

1028
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,119
what I'll do um

1029
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,040
I think the answer sort of depends and I

1030
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:32,240
think the first question is uh if it's

1031
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:36,160
an HHI duty and responsibility so I have

1032
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:40,400
forwarded it to um HHI to to ask for

1033
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:42,560
their input on it and um uh if it's not

1034
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,400
then it would still be a city council

1035
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,599
responsibility so then we could have a

1036
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,599
future item on on that but uh I

1037
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,680
forwarded it uh earlier today so I don't

1038
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:52,400
know the answer to that yet so Okay,

1039
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,280
thank you.

1040
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:58,319
» Any other comments? Okay, let's move on

1041
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,400
to the next item. Uh, so the Port Wine

1042
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:02,640
Housing Authority regular meeting is

1043
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,359
adjourned. The next regular meeting is

1044
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,240
scheduled for Monday, October the 5th at

1045
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:10,480
6:30. We will now reconvene to the city

1046
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,560
council regular meeting. The time is

1047
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,560
7:14.

1048
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,440
And we will now move to the city

1049
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,880
council's consent calendar. Uh before we

1050
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,200
do that, madame clerk, do we have any

1051
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,240
public comments related to the uh

1052
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,839
consent calendar?

1053
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,880
» No public comments for city council

1054
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:26,960
consent.

1055
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,040
» Okay.

1056
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
So, these items will be approved in one

1057
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,240
motion unless a council member would

1058
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,319
like to pull an item. Are there any

1059
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:37,520
items uh that you would like to request

1060
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:41,040
to be pulled from the consent calendar?

1061
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,160
» I have item four.

1062
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:47,040
» Item four

1063
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:48,000
» And item six. and six.

1064
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,000
Okay. Anyone else?

1065
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,480
» I was going to ask for item five to be

1066
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,440
pulled for just a quick question and

1067
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,400
also six.

1068
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:00,240
» Okay, great. Anyone else?

1069
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,880
Okay. Um, so can we can I get a motion

1070
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,680
and a second for items one through

1071
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,560
three?

1072
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,200
» Move to approve items one, two, three.

1073
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,960
» Second.

1074
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,079
» Great. Madam clerk, please make a role.

1075
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,480
» All in favor?

1076
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,960
» I.

1077
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,960
» All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes

1078
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,800
unanimously. Great. Thank you. Uh,

1079
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Council Member Lopez, do you have any

1080
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,079
What do you have for number four?

1081
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,400
» Yeah. So, I was looking at the conflict

1082
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:26,240
of interests for the bianual review and

1083
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,520
adoption

1084
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:31,920
on page one of 15.

1085
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,640
Um, there's a modification to position

1086
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:38,160
title. Uh, all the way at the bottom,

1087
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,640
the confidential analysts management

1088
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,880
analyst disclosure category one of five

1089
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,839
through nine.

1090
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:48,559
Um,

1091
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:51,839
but when you read the resolution, it

1092
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:56,000
states that that the disclosures are one

1093
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:58,400
and two in on page five of 15. So, I I

1094
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:02,280
just wanted to make sure that we

1095
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,280
annotated this, right?

1096
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:09,760
Yeah. And I would say the staff report

1097
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:12,800
that shows five and nine is incorrect.

1098
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Uh, that's a typo. And um I'm guessing

1099
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,559
that was probably the prior categories

1100
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:23,119
uh and that one and two are were the

1101
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:26,480
intended changes. So um the idea being

1102
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:28,240
uh that uh similar to the senior planner

1103
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,440
position that was also created, but the

1104
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,000
management analyst and the senior

1105
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,680
planner work on very similar projects

1106
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,800
including with developers and things

1107
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:39,680
like that. And so um the highest levels

1108
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:43,760
of disclosure category level one and two

1109
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:48,079
would be appropriate for for those. So

1110
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:52,640
um so we'd recommend adopting the uh

1111
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:56,319
code and the resolution. Uh and we uh

1112
00:49:52,640 --> 00:50:00,319
the the staff report has the typo.

1113
00:49:56,319 --> 00:50:02,559
» Okay. So, will that change um the

1114
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:04,400
amendment checklist

1115
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:07,520
since we're revising disclosure

1116
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,240
categories because it's unchecked. So,

1117
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,400
» That that won't uh amend the checklist

1118
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:14,800
because the disclosure categories from

1119
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,000
the previous um conflict of interest

1120
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,400
code were one and two.

1121
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,680
» Okay.

1122
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,359
» So, they'll stay the same.

1123
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,240
» Got it.

1124
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:23,359
» That's all I got.

1125
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:25,599
» Thank you. Uh if no one else have any

1126
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:28,000
questions, um is there a motion and a

1127
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:29,119
second to approve item number four?

1128
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,119
» So move

1129
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,119
» Second.

1130
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,400
» All in favor?

1131
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,960
» I.

1132
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,079
» All oppose hearing. None. Motion passes

1133
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,559
unanimously.

1134
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:44,880
» Okay. Um mayor pro tip. Number five.

1135
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:48,000
» Item number five was approved coast snap

1136
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,240
cradle purchase and installation on the

1137
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:55,040
pier. Um I know it's a cost item. It's

1138
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:58,319
um the cost to our city is approximately

1139
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,960
$500. But I think this is incredibly

1140
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:02,800
exciting to me. It's I think it's a

1141
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,319
wonderful thing that's going to happen

1142
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:09,040
um for our residents to get involved in

1143
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:11,599
uh photographing our coastline and

1144
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,559
helping us track the movement of our

1145
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:16,319
coastline. And I'm just curious um

1146
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,839
James, Mr. City Manager, if you could

1147
00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:19,359
just elaborate a little bit about how

1148
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:21,200
this came about

1149
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:24,640
» And whether or not we'll be informing

1150
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:29,280
our our residents about um these um

1151
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,079
these cradle uh snaps appearing on our

1152
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
beach.

1153
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,920
» For sure. Thank you. Yeah, I think it

1154
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,119
was um roughly a year ago uh when the

1155
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:42,240
city had partnered with Surf Rider to on

1156
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:44,880
the dune restoration project which is

1157
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:47,119
still ongoing and I see volunteers out

1158
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,960
uh frequently working on uh trying to

1159
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,960
restore the dunes out at Wayne Beach.

1160
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,480
So, if anybody watching hasn't been out

1161
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,040
there and seen the work going on, it's

1162
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,200
good to check out. But um when we were

1163
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,640
working on that with the surf riders, a

1164
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,079
couple of the surf rider members came

1165
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,839
forward and said, you know, the other

1166
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:04,640
thing that would be really helpful would

1167
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:07,599
be uh this co-nap cradle with the idea

1168
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,400
that it is a tool that helps the public

1169
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:14,400
help us document the movement of sand on

1170
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:16,640
the beach. Um and so uh we were

1171
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,359
interested in that but then we also kind

1172
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,200
of it got our wheels turning for

1173
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:22,800
everybody knows our dredge project is

1174
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,960
really important and how that sand

1175
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,240
moves. So then we talked to them about

1176
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,640
well could we do that and actually sort

1177
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:31,599
of tweak it to be focused on the dredge

1178
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,000
and and they were supportive of that. So

1179
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:35,440
so alto together I think um it's just a

1180
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,400
good result of that partnership with

1181
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,839
surf rider on the dune restoration. So,

1182
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,240
uh, good, like you said, good

1183
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:43,920
opportunity for public awareness and

1184
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:46,720
yes, uh, once it's approved and

1185
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,760
installed, we plan to do a lot of, uh,

1186
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:51,920
PR around telling people what it is and

1187
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,520
how they can help, uh, do that. So,

1188
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,760
we'll we'll plan for that.

1189
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,839
» It's a great idea. Thank you so much for

1190
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,680
bringing this to the before council.

1191
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:01,839
» Great. Thank you, Council Member Gab.

1192
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,160
» Yeah. Um, it's funny when you go out

1193
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:07,280
there on a daily basis and particularly

1194
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,760
when you transition from south swells to

1195
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,599
north swells, there's a huge difference

1196
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,559
in the amount of sand that's moving in.

1197
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:16,800
And as when James and I walk the pier,

1198
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:18,559
we always like see where the sand is and

1199
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
kind of make a mental note. And then

1200
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:22,160
when we come back the next time and

1201
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,319
inevitably the sand is either moved back

1202
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,480
or moved forward and that's basically by

1203
00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:29,599
the water line. So, uh, yeah, this is

1204
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:32,240
good stuff. and uh really excited to to

1205
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:34,400
be able to share

1206
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:36,400
the differences between a north and a

1207
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,800
south swell.

1208
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,000
» Great.

1209
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,880
» I I have a question.

1210
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:47,200
» So, and I read through it. Great. Which

1211
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:48,800
is really great. Um but who's

1212
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,440
who's doing the like who's doing the

1213
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,559
surveys on this? Like is is it going to

1214
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,559
somebody?

1215
00:53:52,559 --> 00:54:00,640
» Yeah. So, it's uh Coast Snap. Coast Snap

1216
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:05,359
has a uh program where the uh data is

1217
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:08,400
collected and and um uh posted on a page

1218
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:10,720
9 of1. It shows their uh signage

1219
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,040
template and sort of how coap works and

1220
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,960
the co-nap website works. But we had

1221
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,240
talked to them about also, you know, we

1222
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,200
tal we talked to them about the dredge

1223
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:20,960
and talked to them about why we were

1224
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,160
really interested in it and, you know,

1225
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,920
would we be able to partner with them

1226
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,760
and use that data and then they

1227
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,640
indicated we could. So So that's

1228
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,000
something we

1229
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:34,160
» Do. So the day we install this is um who

1230
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,839
who's going to like you know what's the

1231
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,440
first photo that we're you know like

1232
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:41,040
that's they're going to collect.

1233
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,800
» Yeah. Well, might be us out there doing

1234
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,240
the ribbon cutting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We

1235
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,680
probably know it's going to be

1236
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,200
» It. It'll kind of be like what the

1237
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,920
baseline is. I guess what I'm trying to

1238
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,920
tell when I'm trying.

1239
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,559
» Yeah. So, it'll, you know, the idea is

1240
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,160
um we install it and you know, the hope

1241
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:56,400
is that every day you have a couple

1242
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,480
people go out and stop by and get

1243
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,720
interested and take pictures. And so, it

1244
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,000
starts with with that installation. We

1245
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:05,760
It's not the only thing we're doing

1246
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:08,559
because we also have worked on um uh we

1247
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,240
now have the ability to do some aerial

1248
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:13,440
aerial photographs. So, we're doing

1249
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:15,200
those like monthly, too. But it's it's

1250
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,119
just more data. You know, from the

1251
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,880
monthly photograph, you can see what's

1252
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,040
changed. And we're hoping with this, you

1253
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,640
literally can tell where it's moving and

1254
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,760
what's happening.

1255
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,760
» Last question is, uh,

1256
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,240
I'm It's going to be on the pier.

1257
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,200
» Yeah.

1258
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:35,720
» And is there any legal language to say

1259
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,720
if their phone drops in the water?

1260
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:41,200
» Use at your own risk.

1261
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:44,000
» Air at your own risk. I um I think we'll

1262
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,000
try to install it in a location where it

1263
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,599
doesn't fall off the side of the pier,

1264
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,599
but um if if if it ends up because it is

1265
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:53,520
the challenge is it has to be in the

1266
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:55,040
right spot to get the right photo. So if

1267
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,920
it ends up where that's the case, we'll

1268
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,040
put some signage up to uh use at your

1269
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,760
own risk.

1270
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,920
» Got it. That's all I got. Thanks.

1271
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,760
» Okay. So, let's let's uh Is there a

1272
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,599
motion and a second to approve number

1273
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,280
five? I make the motion to approve

1274
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:12,000
number five.

1275
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,119
» Second.

1276
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000
» All in favor?

1277
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,760
» I.

1278
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,240
» All opposed.

1279
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,760
» Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

1280
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,480
» Okay. We'll move to item number six.

1281
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:25,119
Soul source purchase of ultra ultraflow

1282
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,119
arch pipe from contact engineer

1283
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:29,760
solutions for the Pearson Avenue and 8th

1284
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:32,960
Street storm drain replacement.

1285
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:36,640
» Um your questions. So this this

1286
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:39,920
particular item had a lot of timelines

1287
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,760
associated with it. Um so if

1288
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,040
manufacturing or shipping go past

1289
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:48,240
October 9th, uh contact can invoke an 8%

1290
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,559
increase, which is roughly $27,000,

1291
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:52,400
which would consume about the entire 10%

1292
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:56,720
contingency before even the pipe

1293
00:56:52,400 --> 00:57:01,480
arrives. So uh the staff report states 8

1294
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:01,480
to 10 weeks. Um

1295
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,720
Are we are we going to sole purchase

1296
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,440
this Evan knowing that we're probably

1297
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:12,400
going to go into that

1298
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,720
that lead time issue

1299
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,920
» And conversations good evening mayor

1300
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:19,680
mayor council members of the audience um

1301
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,839
we've been in conversation with them

1302
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,880
already they they give that as a

1303
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:26,960
standard to get it but they don't

1304
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,720
believe it will even take that long to

1305
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:34,559
get that for our project. So, um there

1306
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,400
is the potential um but we don't believe

1307
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:41,359
that it's it's going to be something

1308
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:44,480
that is going to really impact that.

1309
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:48,240
» And with the with with everything now um

1310
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:51,760
it's not uh as it was in the past where

1311
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:53,280
a lot of uh companies kept stock on

1312
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,359
hand. Now a lot of times they don't keep

1313
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,720
anything until orders are coming in.

1314
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:58,720
However, they do have some of this

1315
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:02,400
available already. So,

1316
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:06,640
» Okay. And then there's uh 3,500 linear

1317
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:08,400
square feet of heavy arc pipe.

1318
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:12,640
Where are we putting this?

1319
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:17,200
» It's going to go down uh Pearson to 8th

1320
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:19,839
Street and make a right, go down uh 8th

1321
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:22,240
Street to McKon, make a left there by

1322
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:23,280
the school, and then a short piece on

1323
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,280
Eighth Place.

1324
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,040
» No, no. But where are we going to stage

1325
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,680
it while we're waiting on the manu?

1326
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,000
because we haven't even selected uh

1327
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,240
someone to put it in.

1328
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,920
» Oh. Um our thought was we would be

1329
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,400
staging it over at the by the port uh in

1330
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,280
the

1331
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,520
» At our Market Street

1332
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,839
» Market Street location

1333
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,680
» Because we're already taking heat for

1334
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:49,920
using that as a staging area, right? I

1335
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,240
let me answer it a little uh broadly,

1336
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:56,160
but I think we were getting uh

1337
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:58,240
complaints when it wasn't being it

1338
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,000
wasn't just the staging. It was other

1339
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,240
debris and things there and we've been

1340
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,240
cleaning it up. But we did receive a

1341
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,319
recent complaint, I would say, more

1342
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,799
focused on wanting to know what the

1343
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:10,000
long-term plan is. But in the meantime,

1344
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:11,440
because there isn't anything that can

1345
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,880
happen to that site in the next three

1346
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,599
months. So, I think using it as a

1347
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:18,160
staging for a critical storm drain

1348
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,440
project would be, you know, defensible.

1349
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,040
Defensible.

1350
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,520
» And then I assume we're going to as we

1351
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:29,280
receive this, we're going to inspect it

1352
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,559
prior to putting it there because what I

1353
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,319
think what I'm worried about right now

1354
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,839
is we're going to we're going to have

1355
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:35,200
this, no one's going to look at it. we

1356
00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:38,640
get ready to install it and there's a

1357
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:41,280
crack and then you know the person the

1358
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,280
contractor who's who we contract to put

1359
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,839
this in they're going to be no you this

1360
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,280
is crack I didn't do this you guys did

1361
00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:51,599
this and there's going to be some

1362
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:54,799
fingerpointing with this type of project

1363
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:57,440
um well the our intent is well we're

1364
00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:00,559
concerned about vandalism as well so um

1365
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:03,520
we'll fence it and try and protect it

1366
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:05,760
obviously we can't 100% guarantee that

1367
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,559
somebody's not going to get into it. Um,

1368
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,160
but since it is a steel pipe, too. Um,

1369
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:13,839
it won't necessarily the worry isn't

1370
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,280
about cracking, but it's more about if

1371
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:17,359
somebody were to take something and go

1372
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,920
and bash it because it's got a very

1373
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:22,240
particular shape. So, then it would roll

1374
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:25,280
the edges of the pipe down, which would

1375
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,079
make it more difficult to join. But, um,

1376
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,520
again, we they'd have to do something

1377
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:32,400
really hard in order to get it. It's

1378
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,319
very thick gauge pipe. So, so ho how

1379
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,799
soon do you think uh once we take

1380
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:37,599
custody of this having a contract to get

1381
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,040
it installed?

1382
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:41,040
» We're already working on that as well.

1383
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,119
So, we're hoping that the timing will

1384
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,839
all be there so we have a date set. So,

1385
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:47,359
when we have the pipe come in when we

1386
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:48,640
know that we'll know in advance of when

1387
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:49,920
it's going to be shipped out, then we

1388
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,280
can set that

1389
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,119
» Um with the contractor to start

1390
01:00:51,280 --> 01:01:00,000
immediately. So the Can you clarify the

1391
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:00,720
675 foot gap that uh that's on North 8th

1392
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Street?

1393
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:06,160
» Yes, that was a section that had been

1394
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,760
lined um previously. So it had a liner

1395
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,680
put in it because it had a it had a

1396
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,319
problem previous. So that has a liner in

1397
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:15,200
that. So rather than removing it because

1398
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:19,359
it's already been uh addressed with

1399
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:21,280
that, we skipped that section and we're

1400
01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:23,440
we'll be attaching to each side of that.

1401
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,319
Got it. All right. Thank you. That's all

1402
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,440
I got.

1403
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:28,079
» But you have any questions?

1404
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:31,280
» I did. Um

1405
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:33,920
» I'm sorry. I told you. Go ahead.

1406
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,640
» I'm just um thinking about everything we

1407
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:39,520
talked about, we have a potential big

1408
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:42,160
heavy rain season. Um what if we're so

1409
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,599
unlucky that as you begin to try and set

1410
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,400
this pipe that we're in the middle of a

1411
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:49,040
major storm? What happens?

1412
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,119
um we won't be digging it all up at

1413
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:54,480
once, but even if it has started, then

1414
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:56,240
we can uh go ahead and put bypasses in

1415
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,319
in order to be able to go around while

1416
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,240
that if an event were to be happening.

1417
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:03,200
We're hoping that we can get this all

1418
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,640
done. It's it's a very shallow pipe,

1419
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,319
shallow in depth. So, um, that's one

1420
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,839
particular reason why we did this

1421
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:13,680
because of the

1422
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:15,440
design of the pipe allows us to put it

1423
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,440
in because it's literally right

1424
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:22,480
underneath the street. So, um, from that

1425
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,400
end, because it's not a deep trench, um,

1426
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,119
it the work will be able to go much

1427
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,839
quicker than you would expect on a on

1428
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:31,760
something.

1429
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:34,400
» So, will will this uh um increase the

1430
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,400
flow rate of that section? it it's not

1431
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,960
going to increase the flow rate. It's

1432
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,000
going to keep the same characteristics

1433
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,319
that it was designed for. Um, but it'll

1434
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,960
be new. And we've had issues with

1435
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:48,559
sections of the pipe already. So, uh, we

1436
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:53,520
wanted to make sure we got this because

1437
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:56,559
this from Bryce Canyon between Ventura

1438
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:59,200
and Jay essentially all the way down

1439
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:01,760
that everything up there runs surface

1440
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,400
flow until it gets to Pearson and then

1441
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,319
Pearson is the first It has to get into

1442
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,359
catch basins and then get into the pipe

1443
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:12,559
underground and go. But then all of that

1444
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:15,599
runs to the Bubbling Springs

1445
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:17,520
uh creek which then is dependent upon

1446
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:19,599
the county's flood control station

1447
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,799
operating properly in order to make sure

1448
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:23,680
that water keeps moving.

1449
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:26,240
And

1450
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,839
» If I could just point out because yes,

1451
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,920
like there, you know, there's all these

1452
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:32,400
concerns, but earlier we had talked

1453
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,319
about how we've prioritized storm drain

1454
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,359
related projects to really try to do

1455
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:40,240
what we can to try to, you know, prepare

1456
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:41,599
as much as we can. So, um, you know, I

1457
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,119
want to thank the public works

1458
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:45,440
department for trying to make sure to

1459
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:48,480
get this done this year ahead of, you

1460
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,640
know, any potential future weather. So,

1461
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:53,280
» Thanks Tim.

1462
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,799
» Yeah, thank you. So, um I had a a number

1463
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,119
of questions, but I think they've been

1464
01:03:54,799 --> 01:03:59,680
answered. The one question um that I did

1465
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:02,720
want to ask was what caught my eye here

1466
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:05,680
is that you know the existing storm

1467
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:09,039
train drain pipe uh was originally in

1468
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:12,000
installed in the late7s. I'm imagine we

1469
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:14,720
have a lot of infrastructure that um was

1470
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,520
built and constructed in in those years.

1471
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:21,920
What does how does the city budget for m

1472
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:24,480
maintenance and replacement of our um of

1473
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,400
our pipelines and infrastructure? How do

1474
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,640
we we budget for that or prepare for

1475
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,319
that?

1476
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,559
» Yeah, it's been part of uh we've done

1477
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:32,960
some of those analyses over the last few

1478
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:36,480
years and started to try to prepare for

1479
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,920
like the conversation for upcoming uh

1480
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,520
needing to build these into future

1481
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:45,760
budgets. um they a lot of our

1482
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:49,680
infrastructure is from that period 60s7s

1483
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:52,079
which means it's now 50 60 years old

1484
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,559
which means it's now time to replace so

1485
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:56,400
so um we're we've been working on trying

1486
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,960
to build those things into the budget

1487
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,240
it's you know the council knows I don't

1488
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,799
need to repeat it but it's it's a

1489
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,799
challenge because I think um it is you

1490
01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:06,240
know we're trying to budget for these

1491
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:08,880
now at a time where we're having

1492
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,880
decreased revenues uh and so it's just,

1493
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,559
you know, challenge on top of challenge.

1494
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,119
But it's part of what we said is we need

1495
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:17,599
to know the true cost of what it's going

1496
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:19,039
to take to maintain all these things to

1497
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:22,400
then be able to know what our true

1498
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:27,520
budget is, you know. So, so that's all

1499
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:31,119
um in the works, but um uh there are

1500
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,640
there are more projects uh where we have

1501
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:34,559
50 year old infrastructure that we're

1502
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,640
going to have to deal with soon. Yeah.

1503
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:38,960
And uh I think uh we did the water

1504
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,760
presentation earlier with our you know

1505
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,599
um master plan that has you know several

1506
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,480
million dollars in water projects and I

1507
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:49,920
think um starting to build the uh storm

1508
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:52,079
drain or uh I'm sorry the wastewater uh

1509
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,119
uh lines in as well is is another key

1510
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:56,799
part of it. But the costs will there are

1511
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:59,520
costs out there still that we need to

1512
01:05:56,799 --> 01:06:01,200
start planning for. So

1513
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,319
» Thank you. That's all I had. Thank you.

1514
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,160
» I just have one question. And so, um, we

1515
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:10,000
talked about this before, James. And so,

1516
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:12,960
when we get to items that are, um, are,

1517
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:16,240
uh, out of our general fund and we have

1518
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,839
not, they were not, uh, initially part

1519
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,480
of the budget. You will be telling us

1520
01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:21,839
that, right?

1521
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:24,799
» Yes. And, uh, the good, you know, good

1522
01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:27,280
news is that water and wastewater

1523
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:31,359
typically aren't general fund. Okay. Um

1524
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,720
so um you know so it's not necessarily

1525
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:35,200
you know competition with the other

1526
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:38,319
general fund items we want to do but I

1527
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:41,280
think um we're also working right now uh

1528
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:43,039
on our uh rate study utility rate study

1529
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,720
and I think that all of these we're

1530
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:47,920
trying to build as much as we can of

1531
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,680
these CIPs into those rates so that we

1532
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,000
know what actually has to be done to

1533
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,400
maintain all the systems uh into the

1534
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,400
future.

1535
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,839
Yeah. So, isn't this part of our

1536
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:02,160
drainage district?

1537
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:04,160
» It's part of our wastewater fund. Fred

1538
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,240
might know off hand.

1539
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:11,359
» The

1540
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,559
um drainage district itself isn't the

1541
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:18,559
standard storm drain pipe system. It's

1542
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:19,039
meant for the soft bottom portions of

1543
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:19,920
the channel

1544
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:22,160
» Bubbling springs.

1545
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,640
» Yes. So that's what it's for.

1546
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,319
» Got it.

1547
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,160
» And that's Oxards, right?

1548
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:27,760
» No, that's

1549
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,640
» There's a couple of sections that make

1550
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,520
under cross the bubbling springs is the

1551
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,440
cities.

1552
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,760
» Um there are a couple of portions that

1553
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:39,680
pass under um the streets that go over

1554
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,240
that the

1555
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,680
watershed protection district have

1556
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,799
jurisdiction over. So if something were

1557
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:48,799
to happen to these the underpasses, they

1558
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:50,079
have responsibility for those, but the

1559
01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:51,280
rest of it is ours.

1560
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:53,440
» Yeah. I had a discussion with the

1561
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,280
library director last week and she

1562
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,960
mentioned something along Bubbling

1563
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,400
Springs belonging to Oxnar and I thought

1564
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,599
that was really weird. I had never heard

1565
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,440
that before.

1566
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,839
» I guess that's not correct.

1567
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,240
» No.

1568
01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:05,599
» Okay, great.

1569
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,599
» There's a map in here and there's a

1570
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:10,160
little faint red line. Can you tell us

1571
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:11,920
what that faint red line goes?

1572
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,640
» That's the drainage.

1573
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,079
» Yes. Right.

1574
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,680
» That's where it currently runs. And

1575
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,040
we're just going to be replacing in the

1576
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,400
exact same place.

1577
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,799
» That that whole distance.

1578
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:23,520
» Yes. Except for where there's that

1579
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:25,679
separation that council member Lopez

1580
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,120
mentioned where it's already been lined

1581
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:28,640
in the past. We're skipping that

1582
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,799
section. So you see the red line going,

1583
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,159
it stops, and then it picks up down

1584
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:33,920
further.

1585
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:36,080
» That blank spot where there's no red

1586
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,480
line is the portion that we're not going

1587
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,480
to be replacing.

1588
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:46,640
» So this is a lot. more

1589
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,679
length than I thought.

1590
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,920
» It's a big project.

1591
01:08:47,679 --> 01:08:49,839
» Yeah,

1592
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,239
» It's a big project.

1593
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:55,040
» Any other questions?

1594
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:56,560
» No. Okay. Um, can I get a motion and a

1595
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,279
second for item number six? Mo

1596
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,480
» Move to approve item number six.

1597
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,679
» Second,

1598
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:03,040
» Madam Clerk.

1599
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:03,520
» All in favor?

1600
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,440
» I.

1601
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,520
» All opposed?

1602
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:09,199
» Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

1603
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,640
» Uh, thank you, Mr. Camaro. Appreciate

1604
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:12,239
I'm so glad we got that cleared up. When

1605
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,600
we first started talking about this, I

1606
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,920
thought we were talking about parking

1607
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:18,319
and I was so confused.

1608
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,600
» I'm like, does a pipe mean anything for

1609
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:20,960
parking?

1610
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,560
» Okay, so we're going to move to item

1611
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,920
number seven. Uh, consider approval of

1612
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,839
coastal development permit number CDP

1613
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,400
uh 2026-1

1614
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:32,960
and establishment of updated uh beach

1615
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,319
parking fees for Wanimi Beach Park.

1616
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,159
Madame Clerk, do we have proof of

1617
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:38,239
publication as required by law and a

1618
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:39,359
complete file of reports and exhibits?

1619
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,120
Yes, Madame Mayor.

1620
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,839
» Great. Will staff please present the

1621
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,040
report?

1622
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:45,759
» Yes, thank you.

1623
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:49,679
» There's a lot of uh technical jargon in

1624
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:51,600
this because um the California Coastal

1625
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:53,279
Commission has a lot of interest in

1626
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,360
making sure that beaches are accessible

1627
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:57,199
to the public. So, we have to go through

1628
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,960
a whole coastal commission process when

1629
01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:02,640
we look at something like this. Um but

1630
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,880
uh so there's all that jargon in there,

1631
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,480
but really in short, what we're trying

1632
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,800
to do is we're recommending to the

1633
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:12,080
council that we finally increase

1634
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:15,120
increase our beach parking fees after I

1635
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:19,280
think it's been about 20 years or so, uh

1636
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:22,320
18 years. Um so uh just to get that out

1637
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:25,040
of the way. Um, so just some background

1638
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,120
in history, uh, paid parking at Waynei

1639
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:30,320
Beach was initially authorized, uh,

1640
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:32,640
under a coastal development permit, uh,

1641
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,920
uh, in 1981.

1642
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:40,080
The last adjustment to the rates for,

1643
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:43,440
uh, beach parking was on August 6, 2008.

1644
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:47,280
So almost uh, almost 18 years to the

1645
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:50,000
date, pretty close. Um the uh 2008

1646
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,880
action increased hourly parking from at

1647
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:56,640
at that time from $1 to $2 an hour and

1648
01:10:52,880 --> 01:11:02,000
all day parking from $5 to $8 per hour.

1649
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:04,159
Um the uh uh council the city had

1650
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,400
previously created a resident annual

1651
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:09,199
pass in 2002

1652
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:12,159
um uh and then a non-resident annual

1653
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:14,560
pass in 2008 and so those haven't been

1654
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:19,120
changed either.

1655
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:21,679
Uh so uh that means most of the uh rates

1656
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,080
have not changed over the last 18 years.

1657
01:11:21,679 --> 01:11:26,080
Um we want to remind everybody that the

1658
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,679
uh beach parking fees are intended to

1659
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,120
help support beach operations,

1660
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:32,080
maintenance, repairs, and capital

1661
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:34,239
improvements. Uh ironically um people

1662
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:37,920
may have noticed we were out there uh

1663
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:39,760
our public works team was uh paving and

1664
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,440
restriping parking lots out at the

1665
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:45,679
beach. So, you know, those types of

1666
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:49,120
items are um paid for with these fees.

1667
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:51,280
And so, um uh we wanted to highlight the

1668
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:55,120
uh parking areas. So, where you can see

1669
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,880
the the teal letter P uh throughout

1670
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,840
there are the paid parking areas,

1671
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:04,239
parking lot A, B, C, E, and then in some

1672
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:08,000
of the um along Surfside Drive. Um, we

1673
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:09,760
also uh uh I think when we present our

1674
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,360
uh proposed parking increase to the

1675
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,040
coastal commission, there's typically a

1676
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,199
concern about having options for

1677
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,600
different levels of affordability. So,

1678
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:19,440
we have daily uh passes, but we also

1679
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,159
have the hourly pass, which is not

1680
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,760
always um typical in other cities to

1681
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:26,960
ensure that people have the ability to

1682
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:30,080
just drop in. But uh this map also shows

1683
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:31,760
that um there's also significant um

1684
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,159
areas still where somebody could park

1685
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,640
for one hour for free uh if they're

1686
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:38,239
further away from the beach. Uh but uh

1687
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,320
in other words, there's still plenty of

1688
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:43,360
public uh plenty of options for public

1689
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:48,239
access to our beach.

1690
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:50,960
Um the uh as proposed uh because it

1691
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:52,400
hasn't been uh or because it's been 18

1692
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:56,400
years since the last time the fees were

1693
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:59,120
increased, we did not um uh want to

1694
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,760
recommend adjusting completely for

1695
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,440
inflation and and seeing a larger

1696
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:07,360
increase than I think people would have

1697
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:08,800
anticipated. So, we propose um a uh

1698
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,199
increase to the hourly and all day

1699
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,280
parking rates of 25% which is pretty

1700
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:14,640
comparable to uh neighboring cities and

1701
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,840
we'll get we'll get to that or

1702
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:20,080
neighboring beaches. Um we also since

1703
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,600
the uh annual passes have haven't really

1704
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,920
been modified in the past, we

1705
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,960
recommended uh changing those but by a

1706
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,800
discounted 20% instead of 25 because we

1707
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,560
still want to encourage people to buy an

1708
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,480
annual pass and come visit our beach

1709
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:36,080
more often.

1710
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:38,800
uh and so um that would maintain the uh

1711
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:41,120
discount for uh the resident annual

1712
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,440
passes as well. So what that looks like

1713
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:48,000
you can see in the chart is currently

1714
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:51,520
today uh parking is $2 per hour, $8 per

1715
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:54,239
day or $50 for a resident annual pass or

1716
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:57,360
$100 for a non-resident annual pass. And

1717
01:13:54,239 --> 01:14:01,440
so we're recommending modifying to 250

1718
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:04,800
an hour, $10 for the all day pass, uh

1719
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:08,480
$60 for the resident pass, and $120 for

1720
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:11,199
the non-resident pass.

1721
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:13,280
Um so obviously one question we get

1722
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:15,600
often is why would we need to increase

1723
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:18,560
it? And uh really it just comes down to

1724
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,800
the all the costs to uh maintain the the

1725
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,960
parking lots, but also the beach and the

1726
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,239
and the uh amenities we have at the

1727
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:29,679
beach. are increasing significantly.

1728
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:32,239
Um and so uh just we just completed some

1729
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:36,880
recent resurfacing work and it was

1730
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:38,880
significant uh cost. So um the uh

1731
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,480
parking lot or the parking fees would

1732
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,320
need to be increased to help balance

1733
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:47,199
those increase in costs. Um

1734
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:49,360
and uh we also confirmed that our

1735
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:51,120
existing parking machines can be updated

1736
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,159
to these new figures without the need to

1737
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:57,040
purchase additional or new equipment or

1738
01:14:54,159 --> 01:15:00,320
other other items. Um and then just to

1739
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:03,440
look at uh we tried to also always keep

1740
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:06,159
in mind our you know uh nearby beaches

1741
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:09,360
and what those look like. I would say um

1742
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:11,760
that we were uh there's a couple of

1743
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:14,000
beaches and typically it's the beaches

1744
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:16,000
that don't have real like the amenities

1745
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,679
will have free parking or free street

1746
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,920
parking.

1747
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:22,159
Um probably one exception I think Silver

1748
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,159
Strand has amenities but a small parking

1749
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:25,920
lot and I think they have free parking

1750
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:29,199
but it's always full because it's a very

1751
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:32,480
small parking lot. Um and so uh those

1752
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:34,159
are the ones that are less than us. Uh

1753
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,920
but I would say other than that, most of

1754
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:38,719
the beaches in the area have increased

1755
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,640
to a higher cost uh at least in some

1756
01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:42,960
way, whether it's the daily rate or the

1757
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,960
hourly rate. And so uh I think we're

1758
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,679
pretty middle of the pack. And then what

1759
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,840
what we're proposing being um minor

1760
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:53,040
increases, we're we kind of stay middle

1761
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:55,199
of the pack. Um and uh I would argue

1762
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,280
that with the amenities that we have

1763
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:59,120
being higher level, I would argue are

1764
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,960
higher level amenities than than other

1765
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,920
beaches in this uh price range

1766
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:06,239
typically. So,

1767
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,560
um,

1768
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:10,400
and, uh, we just wanted to show again,

1769
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,480
we mentioned that we didn't propose

1770
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,920
increasing it to in like to match

1771
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:17,760
inflation because we, um, uh, thought

1772
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,600
that that might be sort of sticker

1773
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,840
shock. Um, if we were to adjust for

1774
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:25,199
inflation, this chart shows that the

1775
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:27,920
hourly rate would be increased to $35,

1776
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:31,360
the all day rate would be over $12, and

1777
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:33,840
the annual uh rate rates would increase

1778
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:39,120
uh you know almost uh 50% from their

1779
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:41,199
current rates. Um but uh we didn't

1780
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,040
propose that and I just also want to

1781
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:44,960
note one reason we didn't propose that

1782
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:47,520
is also because typically the coastal

1783
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:49,040
commission also because their goal is to

1784
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,679
make sure that everybody has access to

1785
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,760
the beach they usually have a

1786
01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:56,880
reasonableness standard. So we tried to

1787
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:00,239
kind of model ours after other increases

1788
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:02,719
that have been approved. Um and so uh as

1789
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:05,280
mentioned we we proposed not increasing

1790
01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:07,440
it to that level.

1791
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,840
Um, and then what would this ultimately

1792
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:13,280
mean for the city? Um, just to give an

1793
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,520
example, uh, currently, uh, over the

1794
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,719
last three years, the beach parking

1795
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,440
generates about $300,000 a year. Uh,

1796
01:17:18,719 --> 01:17:24,000
with these increases, it would likely

1797
01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:26,960
generate increase to about four just

1798
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,800
under $400,000 a year. So, it's a good

1799
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,880
increase to cover some of the additional

1800
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,040
costs out at the beach, uh, which is

1801
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,360
really our goal. But um obviously we're

1802
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,679
trying to show that we're not trying to,

1803
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:40,000
you know, pass on fees to subsidize

1804
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:43,120
other costs. It really is related to the

1805
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,120
costs that we u are paying to to

1806
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:48,400
maintain the beach and the amenities in

1807
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:51,280
the parking at the beach.

1808
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,320
Um and as I mentioned a minute ago, uh

1809
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,920
one of the goals of the coastal

1810
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,880
commission is maintaining public coastal

1811
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,560
access. And so this would do so. And we

1812
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,080
wanted to highlight that free park free

1813
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,640
public street parking is still

1814
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,320
available. City walking and bicycling

1815
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,120
access is still available and the

1816
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,760
bubbling springs corridor still is

1817
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,360
accessible. Uh also there's still Gold

1818
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,640
Coast Transit District stops near the

1819
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:17,199
beach. So uh there's plenty of free or

1820
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,840
lower cost options to visit the beach.

1821
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:21,679
And then uh if somebody does want to

1822
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,120
utilize paid parking, I think our costs

1823
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:26,800
are still reasonable compared to

1824
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,440
neighboring beaches. So with that, like

1825
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,440
I said, there's some extra jargon uh

1826
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:33,040
that we don't typically have related to

1827
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:35,840
the coastal commission and the coastal

1828
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:38,320
review. So we recommend uh approving

1829
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,159
this and then that would uh our next

1830
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,480
step after that would be to then work

1831
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:45,920
with coastal commission to um confirm

1832
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:49,280
that it's u approved uh by coastal

1833
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,080
commission and uh

1834
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:55,920
there's a uh 10-day appeal period that

1835
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:57,840
coastal commission has has uh if it's

1836
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,400
not appealed the rates would take effect

1837
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:03,440
at the end of that 10day appeal period.

1838
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:05,120
Um, so, uh, we would announce, you know,

1839
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:08,480
we we would make sure to announce that

1840
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:10,880
and publicize it, uh, uh, before we

1841
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:12,480
implement it, but there is that 10-day

1842
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,920
appeal period where the coastal

1843
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:19,120
commission could appeal it. So, and with

1844
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,760
that, we recommend approving the uh,

1845
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:24,719
updated beach parking fees.

1846
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,520
» Great. Are there questions?

1847
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:29,440
» Um, go ahead. So what's the likelihood

1848
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:32,159
of coastal commission coming back and

1849
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:34,320
appealing this within within 10 days?

1850
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:38,800
You never know because uh you know it

1851
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:41,840
could be you know um this so let me take

1852
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,760
a step back and say uh this permit is

1853
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,600
relatively minor for Coastal Commission

1854
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,280
and that's why it's just this 10-day

1855
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,880
appeal period versus some of like our

1856
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,520
ordinance changes actually have to go

1857
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,719
through like a review with Coastal

1858
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,320
Commission. With this essentially if

1859
01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:59,280
nobody appeals it, it's approved. Um, so

1860
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:02,000
it's lower odds, but you also just never

1861
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:05,520
know. And, uh, I think Ventura this year

1862
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,679
approved theirs and got appealed, but I

1863
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,280
think what we had had heard was that it

1864
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:11,280
might have been appealed because they

1865
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,880
didn't go through the normal coastal

1866
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,159
commission process. So, it was almost

1867
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,800
more just appealed to make sure they

1868
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:18,960
were going through the process. So, um,

1869
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,520
we we we're trying to make sure we nip

1870
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,920
all that uh, in the bud up front and go

1871
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:26,400
through that process. So, we I would say

1872
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,560
we're pretty confident on on this, but

1873
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,440
you just never know. So, that's all I

1874
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,840
have. Thank you.

1875
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,640
» Thank you. Anyone else?

1876
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,800
» Yeah, I just wanted to add that uh $60

1877
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:39,679
for our annual pass is a really good

1878
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:42,719
deal. Every fisherman at the pier has

1879
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:44,560
one and uh I have three of them for our

1880
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:46,800
three cars and uh it it's the best deal

1881
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:50,560
in town. It still will be the best deal

1882
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:52,800
in town after this gets approved. So,

1883
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:56,000
» Mayor pro tip. Yeah. Thank you for um

1884
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:59,600
the presentation and I just just had one

1885
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:01,520
um question about the uh the fee

1886
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,120
increase covering our costs. Um how

1887
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,800
comfortable are you

1888
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,560
» Um because I I didn't see any mention of

1889
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:10,080
what those costs are?

1890
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:12,239
» Um but are you comfortable that the 415k

1891
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,159
is going to cover our annual costs and

1892
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:16,719
does that include the restrooms as well?

1893
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:19,679
» Yeah, I think uh it gets us closer to

1894
01:21:16,719 --> 01:21:22,320
it. I think uh one of the challenges is

1895
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:24,239
like um some things we have to do

1896
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,400
regularly, sometimes we some things we

1897
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:28,159
do periodically. We don't uh you know

1898
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,800
pave and stripe the parking lots every

1899
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:33,440
year for example. So a year like this

1900
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,679
year it probably won't cover the costs

1901
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:39,440
but I think we're think on a yearly

1902
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:42,320
basis that that we're pretty close. Um

1903
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:45,600
but I also think you know one thing that

1904
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:50,080
um like we said we didn't increase it to

1905
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:52,480
the level of inflation but I think as we

1906
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:55,679
kind of keep getting that data and we

1907
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:57,280
know all the true costs that it's

1908
01:21:55,679 --> 01:22:00,080
probably not going to be 18 years before

1909
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:02,560
we're talking about another increase.

1910
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,400
Um, so, uh, so I think we're getting

1911
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,560
closer to covering all the costs and

1912
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,199
then it's just something we we expect to

1913
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,760
continue to monitor, uh, more closely.

1914
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:13,360
» Okay, great. Thank you.

1915
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:17,760
» Any other questions? No.

1916
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:22,840
» Um, so um, I'll now open the public

1917
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:22,840
hearing and take comments. It's 7:49.

1918
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:28,880
You already public comments. Uh, 49. U

1919
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,719
Madame Clerk, do we have any public

1920
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,040
comments? No public comments.

1921
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:36,400
» Great. I'll now close the public public

1922
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:38,480
hearing. Um, and now the time is 7:49

1923
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,800
still.

1924
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:43,440
» Okay. So, we have before us the

1925
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,679
recommendation to Is that on in your

1926
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:48,400
That's not on your slide deck, is it?

1927
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:51,400
» Oh, let me I hope so because I know it's

1928
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,400
lengthy.

1929
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:01,679
» Uh, I'll have it. Uh, I think you could

1930
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:04,159
note unless the city attorney tells me

1931
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:06,159
uh know that it's as drafted.

1932
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,880
» Can I Can I just refer to it rather than

1933
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:07,679
read the whole thing?

1934
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,320
» I think so.

1935
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:10,080
» That's correct.

1936
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:13,520
» Okay, great. Thank you. We have before

1937
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:16,639
us the re recommendation um items number

1938
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:20,239
three, four, and five. May I have a

1939
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:21,199
motion and a second to approve item

1940
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:24,560
number seven?

1941
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:27,280
» Move to approve. Second.

1942
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,360
» Madame clerk, please take role. Council

1943
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,000
member GMA.

1944
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,120
» Yes.

1945
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,880
» Council member Lopez.

1946
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,560
» My apologies. I apologize for the

1947
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,560
interruption. I believe there should be

1948
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,880
a discussion on the motion now that we

1949
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,920
had public uh comments along with the

1950
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,719
» Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.

1951
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,880
» Before the voting.

1952
01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:44,639
» You're right. Thank you. Sorry y'all. Uh

1953
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,040
was there any further discussion? I

1954
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:50,480
think we we got to a no. I think it's

1955
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:52,480
long overdue and um

1956
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:55,280
for what it's worth um some of the more

1957
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:57,199
successful landlords I know they

1958
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,040
increase their rent every year which you

1959
01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:00,719
know and I don't know if that's

1960
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,679
something that we should consider in our

1961
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:05,840
parking but um I think uh waiting 18

1962
01:24:03,679 --> 01:24:07,120
years might be a little too long

1963
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,080
» Agreed

1964
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:12,560
» Great ahead comment in speaking to some

1965
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:15,679
of the residents along uh Surf Side and

1966
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,639
we were talking about um our our budget

1967
01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:19,679
situation

1968
01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:21,440
and discussing economic um

1969
01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:24,480
opportunities, economic development

1970
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:26,239
opportunities. They recommended this.

1971
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:27,840
They said, "Let's increase. Why don't we

1972
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:30,080
just increase the the parking fees?"

1973
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,040
They probably haven't been um raised in

1974
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:35,440
some time. So, I think the public um our

1975
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,440
residents will also support this.

1976
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:40,239
» Some will, some won't. Some will make

1977
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:42,080
comments that we're trying to get rich.

1978
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:44,560
» Yeah. Definitely not getting rich, but

1979
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,320
it's it's helping us keep the beach the

1980
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:49,120
jewel it is.

1981
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:51,360
» Okay. So that we stay on track. Can I

1982
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:53,520
get the motion again and the second?

1983
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,560
» Move to approve.

1984
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,840
» Second.

1985
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,679
» Second.

1986
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,080
» Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk,

1987
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:00,960
please.

1988
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,440
» Okay. Council member GM.

1989
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,639
» Yes.

1990
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:03,199
» Council member Lopez.

1991
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,480
» Yes.

1992
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,199
» Council member Perez.

1993
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:06,639
» Yes.

1994
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:06,960
» Mayor Prom Hernandez.

1995
01:25:06,639 --> 01:25:08,080
» Yes.

1996
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,480
» Mayor McQueen Leon.

1997
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,000
» Yes.

1998
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:11,280
» Motion passes unanimously.

1999
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,600
» Great. Thank you. We'll move to the

2000
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:15,199
business item number uh eight uh second

2001
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:18,320
reading and adoption of the ordinance

2002
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:20,960
adding chapter 10 to article five of the

2003
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:23,199
Port Wayne Municipal Code regulating

2004
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,520
short-term rentals. Staff, please

2005
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:27,520
present the report. That be our city

2006
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:30,560
manager again.

2007
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:33,600
» Yes, thank you. So, I know we've talked

2008
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:35,199
about the um short-term rental ordinance

2009
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,880
uh many times over the last couple

2010
01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:38,800
years, and I everybody's probably tired

2011
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,800
of seeing some of these slides, so I

2012
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,719
won't go over them in in a lot of

2013
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,880
detail. I'll note this is the second

2014
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:47,040
reading. Typically, the second reading

2015
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,880
can be a consent item, and we usually

2016
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,040
don't even really talk about it again,

2017
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,480
but we wanted to talk about it because

2018
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,320
we had gotten questions about the

2019
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:56,960
implementation of it. So, we just wanted

2020
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:59,199
to try to be transparent about that. But

2021
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:02,639
uh I'll go over the rest of it briefly

2022
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:05,360
for that uh for that reason. Um but uh

2023
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:06,880
as we've discussed um we initially

2024
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,480
started receiving uh complaints and

2025
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,280
inquiries about short-term rentals back

2026
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:13,840
in October of 2024. We've had many

2027
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,679
public conversations and I think uh you

2028
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,840
know we said last meeting that both

2029
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:20,239
proponents and opponents I think that

2030
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:25,040
the city council really made an effort

2031
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:28,080
to be responsive to and um recommended

2032
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:31,280
or directed that staff make some changes

2033
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:33,040
over the year. Uh both

2034
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,960
uh some good points that the opponents

2035
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,440
made and good good points that the

2036
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,679
proponents made. So, I think we got to a

2037
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:41,600
point uh not to jinx it, but I don't

2038
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:43,120
think anybody's here tonight. So, I

2039
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,880
think that means we got to a point that

2040
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:49,440
everybody can live with the ordinance,

2041
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:52,560
and that's a uh a good sign. Um, and so,

2042
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:54,080
uh, what the ordinance includes is, uh,

2043
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,800
I think what we heard from everybody is

2044
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:59,280
everybody was on board with some, uh,

2045
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:02,239
city regulations, some city oversight

2046
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:05,120
with the goal being really to ensure

2047
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:08,000
that the owners, um, are just being

2048
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:11,040
responsible and accountable and um,

2049
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:13,520
managing their um, rentals and not, you

2050
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:16,719
know, having party houses or other uh,

2051
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:20,320
issues like that. And so the ordinance

2052
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:23,920
uh requires um uh a few things. It

2053
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:27,679
requires an annual permit uh a valid uh

2054
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:29,840
business license. Um it the permits are

2055
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:31,679
uh one-year non-transfer transfer

2056
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:34,239
non-transferable permits that expire

2057
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:35,600
upon a change in ownership. So if a new

2058
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:36,960
owner buys the property, they have to

2059
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,800
come in and go through the same process

2060
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:42,320
and and confirm that they're going to

2061
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:45,440
follow all these requirements. Um, it

2062
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:48,800
requires uh ownership disclosure and has

2063
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:52,159
eligibility requirements. Um, and then

2064
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,679
uh it uh by state law, short-term

2065
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:55,120
rentals are prohibited in accessory

2066
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:56,800
dwelling units, affordable housing

2067
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:59,840
units, and mobile homes. So, it includes

2068
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:05,199
that prohibition. Um, and then uh we

2069
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:08,480
include a 10% citywide cap um of uh 10%

2070
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:10,960
of all city housing units. uh maximum of

2071
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:12,719
10% of all city housing units. It

2072
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,159
includes a uh program review

2073
01:28:12,719 --> 01:28:15,840
approximately one year after

2074
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:19,120
implementation

2075
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,800
and uh everybody may recall it's really

2076
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:23,040
focused on what we call good neighbor

2077
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,480
standards. It we tried not to go

2078
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,480
overboard with all the require

2079
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,000
requirements but really focus on the

2080
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:29,440
complaints we were hearing and the

2081
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,960
concerns that people would have where

2082
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:32,560
they just want to make sure that

2083
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,480
neighbors are being good neighbors. And

2084
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,239
so some of the things that includes is

2085
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:38,639
things like quiet hours so that there's

2086
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:43,040
not parties in the middle of the night.

2087
01:28:38,639 --> 01:28:45,120
Um that there's u parking provided uh on

2088
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,679
the property for guests, whether that's

2089
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,679
a garage or a driveway. U but that

2090
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:51,440
there's parking so that the uh a

2091
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:54,320
short-term rental tenant isn't taking up

2092
01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:57,600
all the parking off the street. Um trash

2093
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:00,639
management requirements. Um information

2094
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:03,679
provided so that uh tenants can call the

2095
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:06,239
landlord with any questions or concerns.

2096
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:08,400
um life safety requirements.

2097
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:10,800
A 24-hour local contact and city

2098
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:13,520
approved nuisance response plan is is

2099
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:16,400
also required. Notification of owners

2100
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,320
and occupants within 200 feet uh and

2101
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:21,280
applicable homeowners associations so

2102
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:24,080
that people know who's doing it and know

2103
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:26,239
to how to contact them. Uh and then

2104
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,000
requirements that the landlords respond

2105
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:30,480
or landlords or property managers

2106
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:33,600
responsible respond within uh certain

2107
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:35,760
time frames of of complaints. Um, and

2108
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,760
then the last two pieces here are more

2109
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,520
on the back end of it allows for

2110
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:42,880
different ways for the city to monitor

2111
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,639
online listings uh and uh allows for

2112
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:48,000
fines if people violate those

2113
01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:50,560
requirements. Um, so one of the reasons

2114
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,120
why this wasn't just a consent uh item

2115
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,840
today is because we did get some calls

2116
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:59,520
and it led to some conversations where

2117
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:01,840
we started to realize that the messaging

2118
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:05,600
is going to be very complicated or

2119
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:07,840
confusing if we try to have two separate

2120
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,920
start dates based on whether you're in

2121
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,800
coastal comm uh coastal commission zone

2122
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:15,040
or not. And we realized it, you know,

2123
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,719
it's doable and we've done it in the

2124
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:19,199
past on different things, but in this

2125
01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:21,199
case, what we realized is that there's a

2126
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:24,480
possibility that coastal commission if

2127
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:25,760
they have changes that we might then it

2128
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:27,679
might change something that we're

2129
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,480
already trying to enforce on somebody

2130
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:32,320
else and that might cause more confusion

2131
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,840
and then you know, do we have two

2132
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,280
separate set of rules or would we want

2133
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:38,080
to come back and talk about one set of

2134
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:41,120
rules? So, we just really talked about

2135
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:43,600
that confusion and uh I know I sent an

2136
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,120
email to council on this but you know

2137
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,639
and then we realized that even some of

2138
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,159
our messaging we started to put out

2139
01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:50,960
where we said you know if you're in the

2140
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:52,960
coastal zone this if you're outside this

2141
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,360
and the first question we got is am I in

2142
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,280
the coastal zone and uh sort of

2143
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,120
realizing that not everybody pays

2144
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:03,360
attention to whe whether they're in that

2145
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:05,440
zone. So, we just um you know, we talked

2146
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,880
about it and it's it could be done, but

2147
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:09,840
we just think it's going to cause more

2148
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,960
problems than it solves, especially I

2149
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,760
think we all talked about this

2150
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,840
throughout the process, but uh right now

2151
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:18,480
99% of our short-term rentals are in the

2152
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,760
coastal zone. So, and I would say all

2153
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:22,239
the complaints that we have ever

2154
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:24,239
received are within the coastal zone.

2155
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:26,480
So, it's really would confuse people who

2156
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:29,360
are outside of it without much benefit.

2157
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:31,360
So, so we proposed and we included in

2158
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,600
the ordinance language basically saying

2159
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:36,159
that it would become effective upon

2160
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,000
coastal commission approval and if there

2161
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:40,880
was a significant change or

2162
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,560
modification, we'd come back to council

2163
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:45,040
» And you know and and make sure that we

2164
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,719
have that conversation, but that we uh

2165
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:51,760
would recommend sort of um keeping them

2166
01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:53,679
consistent and uh holding off on

2167
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,760
enforcement until we hear back from

2168
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:58,239
Coastal Commission.

2169
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,679
Uh and so this this reiterates some of

2170
01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:02,000
those points I just made about trying to

2171
01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:05,679
be consistent and clear and not cause

2172
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:10,239
confusion amongst amongst groups. So

2173
01:32:05,679 --> 01:32:12,000
um and so uh with that all being said uh

2174
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:14,560
we also uh included the information and

2175
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,719
laid out the process for that uh for the

2176
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,000
coastal commission review. So following

2177
01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:19,520
adoption, the ordinance would be

2178
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,199
submitted to California Coastal

2179
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,920
Commission as an amendment to the city's

2180
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:25,920
local coastal program. And so I

2181
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,159
mentioned earlier, you know, we actually

2182
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,600
we haven't had a whole lot of uh items

2183
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:31,440
that go through coastal commission

2184
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,040
recently, but today we have, you know,

2185
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:35,360
two with the beach parking fees and

2186
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:37,440
this, but the beach parking fees is like

2187
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,440
a lower level where it's essentially

2188
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:42,480
just uh if coastal commission doesn't

2189
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:44,159
appeal our action, then it takes effect.

2190
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,920
This is a higher level because it's

2191
01:32:44,159 --> 01:32:49,120
actually a change to our local coastal

2192
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:52,320
program. And so we expect a little bit

2193
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:55,280
more interaction and uh we could have

2194
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:58,480
you know modifications or amendments

2195
01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:00,960
come back from coastal commission. So um

2196
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:04,880
again that's where we just you know we

2197
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:08,239
see uh the treatment of the beach

2198
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:12,239
parking fees as simpler than uh this

2199
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:13,679
will likely be. So, so while the coastal

2200
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:16,480
commission review is pending, we still

2201
01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:17,760
will require the business license uh

2202
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:20,320
because that should have been something

2203
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:23,199
that we've been requiring all along uh

2204
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:25,520
for operators, the uh toot payment

2205
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:29,679
requirements will remain in effect in

2206
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:31,600
effect. And then uh we will um prepare

2207
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:33,600
uh we're already working on getting the

2208
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:36,719
application materials, the permit forms,

2209
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:38,800
the notification templates and uh uh

2210
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:40,239
public outreach ready for so that when

2211
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,320
coastal commission does approve it,

2212
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:46,960
we're ready to launch everything pretty

2213
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:49,120
quickly there there from. So, um, so,

2214
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:51,520
uh, the key thing after all that is said

2215
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,960
and done is really the only change from

2216
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,440
the last meeting and the reason why we

2217
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:58,239
wanted to verbalize it is we're

2218
01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:01,520
recommending not making it effective

2219
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:03,120
until Coastal Commission approves. So,

2220
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,280
with that, uh, we recommend council

2221
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,120
adopt it and, uh, with that

2222
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:10,440
modification.

2223
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,440
» Any questions?

2224
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:16,639
Um, I just have one one comment. Um, it

2225
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,040
might be nice. I don't know if we've if

2226
01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:19,360
we

2227
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,520
» I apologize for interrupting. Um, but

2228
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,840
that the comments will come after public

2229
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:26,320
comments later. This portion is just

2230
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,000
reserved for questions.

2231
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,040
» Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I It is

2232
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,000
going to be a question, I think.

2233
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,840
» Okay. Thank you.

2234
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:36,880
» Have we have we I don't recall at any

2235
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:39,600
time that that we have communicated out

2236
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,280
to the community

2237
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:44,280
what part of our city is within the

2238
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,280
coastal.

2239
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,520
Have we ever done that?

2240
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,199
» Um

2241
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,120
I was going through my mind and I'm like

2242
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:53,199
we we've talked about it here a lot but

2243
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:55,120
no we've never done like a posting.

2244
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:57,120
Yeah. And

2245
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,440
» Might be an interesting idea of just you

2246
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,040
know educating people on what that means

2247
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:02,639
to you. So

2248
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,719
» Yeah and the map. Yeah.

2249
01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:06,719
» Yeah. That's you know for me it was

2250
01:35:04,719 --> 01:35:08,880
something that hit me because we talk

2251
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:10,639
about it, we look at it. we show it on

2252
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,480
screen and then when we started getting

2253
01:35:10,639 --> 01:35:14,000
people asking and we were like well if

2254
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:14,400
you're in the coastal zone no

2255
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,159
» Right

2256
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,480
» And then uh they were like am I and it's

2257
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:20,159
like oh oh that's right and I will

2258
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:22,080
always remind everybody and admit

2259
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:24,639
» I lived right down the street uh for

2260
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,560
many years I assumed I was in the

2261
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:29,360
coastal zone but I guess I never checked

2262
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:31,679
that so like I we realize we can't

2263
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:34,080
expect everybody to you know know that

2264
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:35,679
» But that's something we could do is

2265
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,239
» Do some sort of outreach on that

2266
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:40,000
» Because I know in addition to the

2267
01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:42,800
question I'm asking

2268
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:47,040
» Uh because I I think that I am in the

2269
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:49,520
coastal area but the condos next to me

2270
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:53,040
are not so it's cut really

2271
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:55,440
» Yeah there's a there's a confusing line

2272
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:58,639
and uh I think you are correct and I

2273
01:35:55,440 --> 01:36:00,000
think it it's one of the uh associations

2274
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:02,320
is in and the other is out.

2275
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:06,000
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any other any other

2276
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:09,120
questions? Oh go right ahead. So,

2277
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:12,560
um what do you expect the um designated

2278
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:15,600
reporting method to look like um for a

2279
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:18,239
complaint? How is that going to work?

2280
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:21,040
» So, uh we are currently working with the

2281
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:24,320
community development on uh getting all

2282
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:26,159
the templates ready. Um,

2283
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:28,159
it's funny because last meeting I had

2284
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:31,040
said that uh we don't have like

2285
01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:33,360
standalone software for for short-term

2286
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:36,159
rentals, but our community development

2287
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,679
team actually has been launching open

2288
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:39,520
gov and they actually think there's

2289
01:36:37,679 --> 01:36:42,560
going to be the capability to do a lot

2290
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:45,600
of these functions in open gov. So it

2291
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:47,199
could I don't know. I guess the short

2292
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,119
answer is I don't know yet, but the

2293
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:51,840
longer answer is we're looking at trying

2294
01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:53,600
to create like the portal that that I I

2295
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,760
think the council was interested in the

2296
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:58,080
prior meeting in open gov and as much of

2297
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,440
the things that we can do in there uh

2298
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,199
you know the complaint form the

2299
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:05,440
application process we will try to do

2300
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:07,440
that and have like one um you know uh

2301
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:10,000
link for people to be able to access and

2302
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:12,480
and report these different things.

2303
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:15,360
» Uh second question do we know how much

2304
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:16,719
revenue that this potentially might

2305
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,040
bring in

2306
01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:21,119
» Yeah additional revenue. I mean, it's um

2307
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,280
it's a tough question because the

2308
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:24,880
question becomes,

2309
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,320
you know, and we had the numbers in the

2310
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,679
last report. Every time I try to do it

2311
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,560
off the top of my head,

2312
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:29,600
» 57,000.

2313
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,119
» I was going to say I thought it was

2314
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:33,600
50,000ish,

2315
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:36,480
you know. So, um we're up to 50,000,

2316
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,920
which I will also point out. We've

2317
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:41,040
actually been increasing that each year.

2318
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:43,119
Whether that's because we're enforcing,

2319
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:45,600
you know, the requirements for toot or

2320
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:47,520
whether there's actually more operating,

2321
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,440
you know, it's probably a combination of

2322
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,800
the two. But, um, you know, there's

2323
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:52,400
always the question like, are there

2324
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,639
others operating that we don't know yet

2325
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:56,800
and when we do this big, you know, roll

2326
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:59,440
out, maybe some of those start, you

2327
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,520
know, either somebody turns them in or

2328
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:04,239
they just voluntarily start complying

2329
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:06,080
once they get informed of this. So, you

2330
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:08,239
know, I would estimate I think we'd

2331
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:10,560
always be well, in the short term, we'll

2332
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:11,040
be in the $50 to $100,000 range. That's

2333
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,639
my guess.

2334
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,600
» Great. Thank you. That's all I said.

2335
01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:16,560
» In the short term, rental.

2336
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,080
» I do.

2337
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,480
» You have a question for Yeah. Council

2338
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,920
member

2339
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:24,400
» Parking. Um, so public parking in front

2340
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:26,000
of a house is, you know, you can't get

2341
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,760
angry when someone parks in front of

2342
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:32,480
your house. And so I'm wondering how are

2343
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:34,320
we going to address the STR parking

2344
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:35,840
rules?

2345
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,800
» So

2346
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:41,840
council already did theoretically,

2347
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:44,080
right, with the ordinance. Um the uh

2348
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:47,600
ordinance includes the requirement that

2349
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:49,840
they provide uh a minimal number of

2350
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:52,400
parking spaces. And the only reason I'm

2351
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,960
hesitating is because I think we changed

2352
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,520
that a couple times. So, it's

2353
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,280
» Section

2354
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,320
» Two. Yeah. Section

2355
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,040
» 5665.

2356
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:02,480
» Yep. Yep. Section C. Operators shall

2357
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,480
maintain sufficient off- streetet

2358
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:06,239
parking for short-term rental use. One

2359
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:08,000
off- streetet parking space is required

2360
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:10,239
for a short-term rental consisting of a

2361
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,719
onebedroom and two or more will be

2362
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:16,400
required for an STR consisting of two or

2363
01:39:12,719 --> 01:39:18,800
more bedrooms. Um, if you recall, uh,

2364
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,400
initially we said basically if you you

2365
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,000
need to have your two-car garage

2366
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:25,679
available.

2367
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:29,440
um our a resident who uh came and spoke

2368
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:31,679
a few times uh on this had said, "Well,

2369
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:33,199
I have the whole driveway available with

2370
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:35,280
more than enough parking. Why do I have

2371
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:38,239
to have the garage available?" So, I

2372
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,520
think the council ended up agreeing that

2373
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:42,080
it didn't necessarily need to be

2374
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,639
garages, but it's there needs to be off-

2375
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,520
streetet parking, garage or driveway in

2376
01:39:44,639 --> 01:39:46,639
those numbers

2377
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,719
» Or tandem parking.

2378
01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:51,199
» Yeah, it could be tandem parking, garage

2379
01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:53,280
parking, driveway spaces. Um,

2380
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:56,000
» But but not the street parking.

2381
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:58,639
» Well, and so to to answer your question,

2382
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,560
is it possible that the tenant

2383
01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:04,800
short-term renter has more than two

2384
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:07,040
cars? Yes. And so, like you said, you

2385
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,119
know, public parking is public parking,

2386
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,800
but the ordinance tries to make sure

2387
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:12,320
that it tries to minimize it by

2388
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,639
requiring them to at least have enough

2389
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,440
spaces to cover most of their parking

2390
01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:16,320
spaces.

2391
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:18,400
» Right.

2392
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,119
» And something

2393
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,719
» Yeah. Yeah.

2394
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:23,040
» And then the other question just came to

2395
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:25,920
mind is like um

2396
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:28,320
additional dwelling units could be in

2397
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,800
the vicinity of STRs.

2398
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,560
» Mhm.

2399
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:34,639
» Right. And so parking

2400
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:36,960
again, is there a way to distinguish

2401
01:40:34,639 --> 01:40:40,480
between

2402
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,119
parking on the property, public parking?

2403
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:43,679
Um,

2404
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:46,000
» The way we would enforce this is when

2405
01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:48,159
they come in and get their permit, we

2406
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:50,800
would require them to show us that they

2407
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:52,480
at least have two parking spaces.

2408
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,480
» Uh, or if it's a one-bedroom, one

2409
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:55,440
parking space, but you know, typically

2410
01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:58,239
two.

2411
01:40:55,440 --> 01:41:00,400
» And, um, you know, does that mean that

2412
01:40:58,239 --> 01:41:04,080
they won't rent to a family that ends up

2413
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:07,360
having four cars for two days? you know,

2414
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:09,199
that's possible, but the goal is really

2415
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,400
uh it's like minimizing the impact and

2416
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:13,600
trying to make sure that it doesn't

2417
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:15,840
become a habitual problem that you know,

2418
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,600
one house that's being operated as a

2419
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,600
short-term rental is taking up all of

2420
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:23,360
the parking from the whole neighborhood

2421
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:27,880
in perpetuity. So, so that's that's what

2422
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,880
the ordinance really protects against.

2423
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,639
Uh, no more questions. Okay. Do we have

2424
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:40,280
any public comments?

2425
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:40,280
» No public comments.

2426
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:47,520
» Okay. So, um,

2427
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:50,719
we have our recommendation.

2428
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:53,360
Uh, the recommendation is to well, we

2429
01:41:50,719 --> 01:41:55,040
have our recommendation. Um, is to adopt

2430
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,560
the second reading by title only.

2431
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:58,080
Awaiting further reading ordinance

2432
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,400
entitled the ordinance of the city

2433
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:03,040
council of the city of Portini

2434
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:06,239
adding article 5 chapter 10 to the

2435
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:08,560
municipal code pertaining to shortterm

2436
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:09,440
rentals. May I have a motion and a

2437
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,280
second?

2438
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:12,560
» Move to approve.

2439
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:16,000
» Second.

2440
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:17,040
» Okay. Any discussion?

2441
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,239
» Right.

2442
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:24,159
» So I I did I did the math. I'm just you

2443
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:28,639
know I I just 50 units. If there's just

2444
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:33,679
50 units, um 99.95 permitting, that's

2445
01:42:28,639 --> 01:42:35,360
50K and then a 45% occupancy rate,

2446
01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:37,199
uh

2447
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:41,040
probably looking somewhere between

2448
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:43,520
160,000. Um at a high peak demand,

2449
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,880
probably up to 300,000. That's if we

2450
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,280
have 50 units.

2451
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:49,040
» Conservatively, I I would lean to the

2452
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:53,920
160,000.

2453
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:56,239
Um, but of course, um, I did do a search

2454
01:42:53,920 --> 01:43:00,320
and

2455
01:42:56,239 --> 01:43:03,199
AirDNA shows up to 100, but you know, it

2456
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:07,440
can be misleading because we don't know

2457
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:10,880
if uh, VRMO, Airbnb are they're on the

2458
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:13,360
same platform. So, that, you know, we

2459
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:16,480
won't know until we get the just of the

2460
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:18,320
SB uh, 386

2461
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:22,239
um, later.

2462
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:24,880
Uh but this has been long overdue. Um

2463
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:26,560
and I think we did a good job, you know,

2464
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:32,880
getting the community here with the

2465
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:35,520
community uh brief. Um and it's it's I

2466
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:37,760
you know, we we gave a little and we

2467
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:40,880
pushed a little and I thought together

2468
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:43,520
as a council staff presented a good good

2469
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:46,719
options to us and uh just want to tell

2470
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:48,400
uh thank staff. Uh, I think we we

2471
01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:50,800
finally got to the finish line on this.

2472
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:53,760
So, we'll see how the Coastal Commission

2473
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:56,000
views this and uh and if we got to make

2474
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,800
any adjustments, of course, we will

2475
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:00,080
continue to do do the work. That's all I

2476
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,719
got. Thanks.

2477
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,960
» Anyone else?

2478
01:44:02,719 --> 01:44:07,760
Yes,

2479
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:10,880
» So I'm hoping that we could communicate

2480
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,719
upstate that

2481
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,119
there's destined to be a conflict

2482
01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:17,760
between additional dwelling units and

2483
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:20,480
STRs. And the the reason why I say that

2484
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:22,239
is because of there is no parking

2485
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:25,760
component with an additional dwelling

2486
01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:28,480
unit. So, if there's a ADU over here and

2487
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:30,480
a short-term rental over here, um you're

2488
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:32,320
going to see parking problems and and I

2489
01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:34,639
think uh I'm going to make a prediction

2490
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,560
that down the road um there's there's

2491
01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:40,159
going to be a convergence of of these

2492
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:44,000
issues because as you know, ADUs aren't

2493
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:46,080
required to have a parking spot. And um

2494
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,960
I see more and more popping up around

2495
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:52,000
town and um you know, parking is the

2496
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:53,920
issue. So, we'll just have to take a

2497
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,400
step back, watch and and wait and see

2498
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:59,199
what develops. But I do think can we

2499
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,800
communicate ask to whoever it who is it?

2500
01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:03,760
How come there's no parking component

2501
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:06,159
with ADUs?

2502
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:07,840
» I I know the answer. I know I know it's

2503
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:08,480
» Doesn't mean you'll like the answer you

2504
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,960
know

2505
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:13,600
» But I mean it's the you know even with

2506
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:16,320
this too the uh you know short answer

2507
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:18,159
because it's not on the agenda is uh the

2508
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:20,639
decision to prioritize accessory

2509
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:22,639
dwelling units is to impact affordable

2510
01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:25,520
housing and the state has decided that

2511
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:29,600
is priority one parking is priority two

2512
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:31,199
or maybe three or four or five um so um

2513
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,960
you know not everybody has to agree with

2514
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:34,800
it I heard from a lot of resident our

2515
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,119
residents who don't feel that way, but

2516
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:40,080
that's that's the way the state's gone.

2517
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:43,040
And uh I will say that, you know, the

2518
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:45,520
STR ordinance essentially notes that you

2519
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:47,199
can't build an ADU to run it as a

2520
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,199
short-term rental. So, that's one

2521
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:50,960
attempt we're making. Well, and that is

2522
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:52,239
state law anyway, too. So, that I guess

2523
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,760
that's one attempt to sort of make sure

2524
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:55,280
that it's not just like bringing all

2525
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,040
these cars and it actually is helping

2526
01:45:55,280 --> 01:46:00,560
with affordable housing. So,

2527
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:02,880
» But could could a ADU try to transition

2528
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:04,000
to a STR? No,

2529
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,080
» They just cannot do it.

2530
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,560
» No, per state law and we put it in our

2531
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:06,880
ordinance.

2532
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,560
» Okay,

2533
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,920
» So the goal we're trying to keep ADUs

2534
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,760
for affordable housing.

2535
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,920
» Great. Anyone else?

2536
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,199
» If not, madam clerk, please take role.

2537
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,159
» All in favor?

2538
01:46:15,199 --> 01:46:17,760
» I.

2539
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:20,239
» All opposed?

2540
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:22,239
» Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

2541
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:24,719
» Okay, great. We'll move to item number

2542
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:27,760
nine, a response to civil gr uh civil

2543
01:46:24,719 --> 01:46:28,159
grand jury fireworks report. Over to

2544
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,840
you.

2545
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:33,920
» Thank you. So, um, gonna talk out of

2546
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,000
both sides of my mouth here and say that

2547
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:39,040
I know fireworks are always a hot topic

2548
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,520
and so I wasn't going to try to sneak

2549
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:44,159
this item through on consent uh because

2550
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:46,480
I know we we get a lot of questions

2551
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:48,800
about fireworks, but I am also going to

2552
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:51,600
say at the same time that this item is

2553
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:53,840
not a general fireworks discussion. It's

2554
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,840
an item that's intended to respond to

2555
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:59,040
the grand civil grand jury's finding

2556
01:46:55,840 --> 01:47:01,440
that all the cities and and the county

2557
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:03,199
need to work together sort of more

2558
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:07,119
consistently and strategically on

2559
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:10,480
fireworks. Um so

2560
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:13,760
uh so I'll try to limit you know the the

2561
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:17,040
item to really that grand jury response.

2562
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:19,280
And so, um, I think council's aware, but

2563
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:21,440
for public benefit, we did receive a,

2564
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:26,239
uh, all cities in the county received a,

2565
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:28,880
uh, grand jury report on June 23rd that,

2566
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:30,560
um, as I paraphrased, and it's obviously

2567
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,719
the report's a lot longer, but the

2568
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,560
paraphrasing is, well, actually, it

2569
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:36,000
could be restated in recommendation

2570
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,760
four, which is what we responded to,

2571
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,080
which is the Ventura County Civil Grand

2572
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:42,159
Jury recommends that the Ventura County

2573
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,920
Fire Department interface regularly with

2574
01:47:42,159 --> 01:47:45,840
Ventura County law enforcement ment

2575
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,520
coordinating committee to inform the

2576
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:50,320
committee about recommendations from

2577
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:54,719
CalFire's fireworks enforcement task

2578
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:58,400
force. So the outcome of this uh grand

2579
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:59,840
jury investigation was that and so uh

2580
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,840
maybe a couple of the phrases that

2581
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:04,000
aren't familiar but it says Ventura

2582
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:06,320
County Fire Department uh interface

2583
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,760
regularly with Ventura County Law

2584
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:10,639
Enforcement Coordinating Committee. So

2585
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:12,320
that's um there's a committee VCL if

2586
01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:14,080
anybody's ever heard that and it's

2587
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:17,280
essentially all the police chiefs and

2588
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:20,800
the sheriff in our county meet regularly

2589
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:23,280
and work together on uh issues that

2590
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:27,280
impact all of the agencies, all the law

2591
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:29,360
enforcement agencies. So, the grand jury

2592
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:31,920
report was essentially if the fire

2593
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,760
department works with all of our police

2594
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:36,400
uh chiefs and our law enforcement

2595
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:39,440
leadership teams and comes up with

2596
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:41,280
strategic actions and recommendations

2597
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:43,440
like that. That's what needs to happen,

2598
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,719
not just have every city go out and do

2599
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:47,760
its own thing that's completely

2600
01:48:44,719 --> 01:48:50,400
different from the other cities. So, um

2601
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:52,960
so our response to that grand grand jury

2602
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:55,360
finding is we think that's a good

2603
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:57,280
recommendation. We aren't opposing the

2604
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,800
recommendation or challenging it any in

2605
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:02,560
any way. We think it's a good

2606
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:06,719
recommendation and we think that um uh

2607
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:08,159
that VCL can get together and make

2608
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:09,760
recommendations and then we can all

2609
01:49:08,159 --> 01:49:14,080
bring them back and then we can have

2610
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:15,520
fireworks conversations. Um I'll note uh

2611
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,679
you know one of the things like I had

2612
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:19,760
been talking to PD about recently was

2613
01:49:17,679 --> 01:49:21,119
increasing the penalties for example.

2614
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:24,000
So, like I want to have that

2615
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:26,480
conversation, but I think to the grand

2616
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:29,040
jury's point, it's the thought right now

2617
01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:32,560
is have all the agencies talk about that

2618
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:36,880
and like, you know, uniformly do that so

2619
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:39,119
that it's makes our whole county um uh

2620
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:43,520
firmer on fireworks.

2621
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:45,600
So, so again um so this item today is to

2622
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:47,679
accept that grand jury finding, send

2623
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:50,639
that recommendation that we agree to

2624
01:49:47,679 --> 01:49:53,199
meet with to have our team uh meet as

2625
01:49:50,639 --> 01:49:56,880
part of those VCL meetings uh and with

2626
01:49:53,199 --> 01:50:01,600
the fire fire department and uh to um

2627
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:04,960
strategize accordingly. Um and so with

2628
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:06,880
that um I think that is about it. Like I

2629
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:09,280
said, I know fireworks is a broad topic,

2630
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:11,199
but this item is focused on that grand

2631
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,920
jury report, and we recommend accepting

2632
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:15,360
that response and sending our responses

2633
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,880
drafted here.

2634
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,360
» Great. Thank you. Any questions for our

2635
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:20,560
city manager?

2636
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,239
» I have a question.

2637
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,639
» Council member Lopez,

2638
01:50:22,239 --> 01:50:27,920
» I I know VClack collected all this this

2639
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:31,280
data. Um

2640
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:33,920
so looking at Oxnard they they issued 59

2641
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:38,320
um citations

2642
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:41,520
or you know 59 50 59 and then uh we had

2643
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:43,920
you know we had zero for 23 24 and 25.

2644
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:47,360
Is there any lessons learned that we

2645
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:50,239
they could bring back on on how um how

2646
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:52,880
how they were successful in in in you

2647
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:55,679
know getting getting to that. I think

2648
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:57,920
this speaks and uh I had meant to get to

2649
01:50:55,679 --> 01:51:00,480
that and knew I forgot something, but I

2650
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:02,639
think this speaks to why the first step

2651
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:07,119
is to standardize how everybody

2652
01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:10,800
approaches it. Um because the feedback

2653
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:12,400
we've gotten from everybody is that

2654
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:17,440
everybody

2655
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:20,320
handles their calls differently. So the

2656
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:23,360
grand jury ended up reporting on the way

2657
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:27,040
that Oxnard handles theirs, you know. So

2658
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:28,880
then Oxnard has the most responses. But

2659
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:32,719
you'll note when you look, Santa Paula

2660
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:34,159
had blanks because they don't respond

2661
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:35,760
or, you know, they don't track that data

2662
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:39,360
because that's not what they use.

2663
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:41,199
» And then on our end, for example, um,

2664
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,960
and I always get it mixed up, but

2665
01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:44,719
there's like a civil code section and

2666
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:47,520
then there's a criminal code section.

2667
01:51:44,719 --> 01:51:49,840
And so they wrote the report based on

2668
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:52,400
one and where the other. So it's not

2669
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:55,199
that we haven't ever cited anybody, it's

2670
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:57,760
that we haven't used that that code to

2671
01:51:55,199 --> 01:51:59,760
site people. So I think that just goes

2672
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,760
back to where the grand jury said the

2673
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,920
one of the first steps is standardize

2674
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:07,679
how everybody does it so that everybody

2675
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:10,239
can see apples to apples. Um

2676
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:11,679
uh but having said that, I guess the

2677
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:13,119
other answer to your question is I do

2678
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:16,239
think that's going to be part of what

2679
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:18,080
VCL does though too is they will look at

2680
01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:20,480
what works for the cities and what

2681
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,639
doesn't and the lessons learned. Um

2682
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:24,880
Oxnard uh like three years ago I think

2683
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:27,920
was the first city that used uh like

2684
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:30,639
drones to see the fireworks and then we

2685
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,280
followed that um I think the following

2686
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:32,480
year.

2687
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,480
» Another county.

2688
01:52:32,480 --> 01:52:37,760
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the county and and

2689
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:40,000
everything. So, so it's like, you know,

2690
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,599
um I think they're we're doing it right

2691
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,119
now, but it's a little more like, hey,

2692
01:52:41,599 --> 01:52:45,760
look, the city just did something cool

2693
01:52:43,119 --> 01:52:49,199
and that that's honestly, you know, with

2694
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:50,480
the the raising the um penalties, I saw

2695
01:52:49,199 --> 01:52:52,239
Oxnard did it, and I was like, why

2696
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:54,320
haven't we done that yet, you know? So,

2697
01:52:52,239 --> 01:52:55,760
it is sort of like that's how we're

2698
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,440
doing it now. And I think the grand

2699
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,719
jury's point is why don't why doesn't

2700
01:52:57,440 --> 01:53:00,320
everybody get in the room and put a plan

2701
01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:03,920
together so everybody's doing the same

2702
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:05,840
thing. So, so, um, but we would expect

2703
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:08,159
the charts to look different in the

2704
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,760
future when it's sort of more apples to

2705
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:10,639
apples and everybody's doing it the same

2706
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,520
way.

2707
01:53:10,639 --> 01:53:15,360
» To go off of that, that is exactly why

2708
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:17,760
there's such a difference between us and

2709
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,520
Oxnard or or Oxnard or everyone else is

2710
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:21,760
because everyone else goes by the same

2711
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,520
standard for penalties, but by the time

2712
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,040
it gets to the court, the judge reduces

2713
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,560
it to a hundred bucks. So, it doesn't

2714
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:29,119
stick and it's pretty much worthless

2715
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:32,400
even though the fine is $1,000. Well,

2716
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:35,040
Oxnard did an internal um rate increase,

2717
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:36,320
which is a a fine from the city. I think

2718
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,760
it put it up to

2719
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,400
» What was the increase? We talked about

2720
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:42,320
this. It was like

2721
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:44,159
» It was another00 $2,500 and that

2722
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,199
actually stick and it can't be reduced.

2723
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:46,159
So that's why it's

2724
01:53:45,199 --> 01:53:48,719
» Yeah.

2725
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:50,400
» So So I do think there's a few things

2726
01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:52,159
like that that we were already eyeing

2727
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,920
that I have a feeling BCLE is going to

2728
01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:56,000
get in the room and say we should all do

2729
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:58,000
this thing. So, I think there's going to

2730
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:59,280
be some future recommendations coming

2731
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,599
from it.

2732
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:03,760
» Any other questions? Do we have any

2733
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:04,960
public comments?

2734
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,599
» No public comments.

2735
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:10,320
» Okay. Is there a motion and a second to

2736
01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:11,360
approve staff's recommendation one

2737
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,400
through three?

2738
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,760
» Move to approve.

2739
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,440
» Second.

2740
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,040
» Any additional discussion?

2741
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:19,920
» I just want to say I'm all for

2742
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:22,000
standardizing our our approach. I think

2743
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:24,800
Oxart's a great model. Um, I'd like to

2744
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,760
see us do more of what Hogart's doing.

2745
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,520
Sure.

2746
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:32,000
» If there's nothing else,

2747
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:34,159
» I would just add that, um, every year

2748
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:39,119
from the vantage point of my backyard,

2749
01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:42,239
we see the unauthorized Oxnard fireworks

2750
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:44,239
show going on over there in Oxnard. And

2751
01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:48,080
and it's visible from my backyard. It's

2752
01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:50,880
the same place every year. So, you know,

2753
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:52,719
the people that shoot off fireworks in

2754
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,639
my neighborhood, they're really stealthy

2755
01:54:52,719 --> 01:54:56,320
about it. They light it, they run, and

2756
01:54:54,639 --> 01:54:58,400
they hide, and then they don't come back

2757
01:54:56,320 --> 01:55:01,280
for a couple days. Whereas what I see

2758
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:03,679
over there in Oxnard is just a barrage,

2759
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:05,920
a non-stop

2760
01:55:03,679 --> 01:55:08,880
releasing of these things, and I'm

2761
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:11,679
becoming becoming anti-fires as a

2762
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:13,840
result.

2763
01:55:11,679 --> 01:55:15,119
» Great. Madame Clerk, please take.

2764
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,159
» All in favor? I

2765
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:19,199
» I

2766
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:20,159
» All opposed hearing none. Motion passes

2767
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:22,000
unanimously.

2768
01:55:20,159 --> 01:55:24,560
» Great. Thank you. We'll move to item uh

2769
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:27,760
number 10. That's future agenda item uh

2770
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:31,360
request. And we have one uh request that

2771
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:33,040
was received by or submitted by uh

2772
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:36,960
Council Member Lopez.

2773
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:38,560
» And so we have the item. Um

2774
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,040
Council Member Lopez, do you want to

2775
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:44,880
give us

2776
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:47,440
» Yeah, sure. Mayor, colleagues, staff, um

2777
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:50,639
I'm I'm here asking the council to

2778
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:52,560
support uh tonight to schedule a formal

2779
01:55:50,639 --> 01:55:55,360
item on our next agenda to consider

2780
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:57,119
allocating $10,000 for all for our

2781
01:55:55,360 --> 01:56:01,199
available prior year community benefit

2782
01:55:57,119 --> 01:56:03,040
fund for uh for 10,000 from the comm the

2783
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:04,800
prior year community benefit fund

2784
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:08,960
unprogrammed balance to support our

2785
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:12,080
military banner under under category B.

2786
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:13,760
Tonight isn't about debating the full ex

2787
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:16,400
execution is simply agreeing that

2788
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:18,239
honoring our local service members uh

2789
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:20,400
using designated community benefit funds

2790
01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:24,639
meets our criterion for our future

2791
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:26,400
agenda policy. Uh this approving uh

2792
01:56:24,639 --> 01:56:28,080
appropriations under the unprogrammed

2793
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,840
community benefit fund balance is

2794
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:32,960
explicit city council policy and

2795
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:35,280
budgetary power not administrative task.

2796
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:39,119
Staff directions required to amend the

2797
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:42,560
formal CBF expenditure plan. Category B,

2798
01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:44,239
community development, uh, explicitly

2799
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:46,239
authorized funding initiatives that

2800
01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:48,719
foster community, social, cultural,

2801
01:56:46,239 --> 01:56:51,760
well-being, and support civic

2802
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:54,080
organizations benefiting residents.

2803
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:56,239
Um, there is a direct council precedent.

2804
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:58,400
CBF funds uh have been consistently

2805
01:56:56,239 --> 01:57:01,599
supported for cultural, visual, and

2806
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:04,960
civic identity projects, including the

2807
01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:06,239
the mural project and the Bard Monument.

2808
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,400
That's all I got.

2809
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:10,880
» Okay. So, as a reminder at this time,

2810
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:13,599
this is uh for clarification only. So,

2811
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,360
the council uh and staff clearly

2812
01:57:13,599 --> 01:57:17,920
understand what's being requested, not

2813
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:19,599
for in-depth discussion or debate. Um

2814
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,760
so, after clarification, the council

2815
01:57:19,599 --> 01:57:24,239
will vote on whether to direct staff to

2816
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:26,239
place the item on future agenda. Uh

2817
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:28,719
please keep in mind that each request

2818
01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:32,320
requires staff time and resources to

2819
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:34,480
prepare. Um so, are there any questions

2820
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:37,920
for clarification

2821
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,920
uh around this item?

2822
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:44,080
Council member Gama.

2823
01:57:42,719 --> 01:57:47,040
» So, we're going to put this on the

2824
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:49,119
agenda to have a discussion

2825
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:52,560
solely on whether or not to allocate

2826
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:56,000
$10,000 or can we add

2827
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:58,480
add items to be discussed

2828
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:01,119
or are we going to have it? I guess if I

2829
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:03,040
could because that's the only question I

2830
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:06,560
have maybe kind of goes back to that is

2831
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:09,520
is it an item to discuss the CBF

2832
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:12,800
the full CBF including this allocation

2833
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:15,040
or only to discuss this allocation. So

2834
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:17,520
does it matter? I I think my initial

2835
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:20,800
thought was that it would be discuss all

2836
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:23,440
the CBF but include information on this

2837
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:24,080
specific $10,000 allocation. So,

2838
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:25,360
» Right.

2839
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:28,159
» But my thought process is if you're

2840
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:32,400
going to bring something um at least

2841
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:36,480
does it meet the categories? Um and give

2842
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:38,800
a I mean you discussed something the

2843
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:41,440
previous meeting but you didn't bring it

2844
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:43,599
you didn't bring it to the council for

2845
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:48,960
» Uh for consideration. So

2846
01:58:43,599 --> 01:58:51,199
» Okay. So I think it would be a CBF item,

2847
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:53,280
but this would be one of the like

2848
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:56,000
proposed projects that we could do a

2849
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:59,040
little like uh you know vetting on and

2850
01:58:56,000 --> 01:59:01,199
include the information on. I think uh

2851
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:03,440
based on the prior discussion, I think

2852
01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:04,880
it was going to be the other item that

2853
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,000
we were going to try to get more

2854
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,440
information on and bring back which

2855
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,719
we're we're working on. We're trying to

2856
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:13,280
get u from the group, but the EDCVC loan

2857
01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:17,119
program. So essentially it would be the

2858
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:20,239
CBF item with those two items already

2859
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:21,920
sort of like vetted out. Um and then

2860
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:23,920
that still gives the council the ability

2861
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,199
to talk about any other projects

2862
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,679
desired, but those are the two that

2863
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:31,840
would be included with some detail.

2864
01:59:27,679 --> 01:59:34,719
» So question I have is will we be able to

2865
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:38,880
for example discuss the banner placement

2866
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:41,040
program top to bottom?

2867
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,360
» Is this agenda item? because I I talked

2868
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,280
to

2869
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:45,760
» I don't think that's this agenda item,

2870
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:47,760
but that could be another request. What

2871
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,520
you're saying is can we discuss like the

2872
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,719
actual banner

2873
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,679
» Program,

2874
01:59:50,719 --> 01:59:55,199
» Where the banners are placed, you know,

2875
01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:57,760
the look of the banners, things like

2876
01:59:55,199 --> 02:00:00,400
that. Is that what you're asking? you

2877
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:03,760
kind of I talked to council member Lopez

2878
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:04,560
about what I s I think we could adjust.

2879
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,400
So

2880
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:09,040
» I think the banner program there might

2881
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:10,960
be some adjustments that we could all

2882
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:12,400
come to agreement on if we have the

2883
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:14,639
opportunity to talk about it. So I think

2884
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:18,080
is this part of this project if the

2885
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:21,840
council were to say for example we would

2886
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:24,239
approve this to be you know $10,000 CBF

2887
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:26,880
funding however we want to change it

2888
02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:29,520
where the banner has our logo on it or

2889
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:31,840
whatever it is right like I think that

2890
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:34,560
could be discussed under here but if you

2891
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:36,639
just want a like a full like debrief on

2892
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,159
the banner program and changes to the

2893
02:00:36,639 --> 02:00:39,280
banner program then that's a separate

2894
02:00:38,159 --> 02:00:40,800
item so it just

2895
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:42,960
» But it couldn't be included on this

2896
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,320
request this with this. I think you give

2897
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:46,639
you can give some direction. We'll

2898
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:50,400
approve this if the banners are like

2899
02:00:46,639 --> 02:00:56,880
this. It's just not a full banner.

2900
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:59,760
» So, can I just say real quick? So, um

2901
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:02,560
it feels it just feels like it's we're

2902
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:04,880
we're peacemealing a discussion around

2903
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:07,599
the $190,000

2904
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:09,119
» That needs to be more encompassing.

2905
02:01:07,599 --> 02:01:11,199
So, it's it's like we have this

2906
02:01:09,119 --> 02:01:13,520
$190,000. We're talking about $10,000

2907
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:16,560
here now. We have another $180,000. So,

2908
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:18,960
I we really need to be talking about

2909
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:21,599
uh projects period.

2910
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:23,599
And um because

2911
02:01:21,599 --> 02:01:24,320
we we haven't had that conversation. Do

2912
02:01:23,599 --> 02:01:26,480
you know what I mean?

2913
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:28,400
» Yeah, that's sort of where I was going

2914
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:30,320
where I was saying, is it just only

2915
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:33,679
talking about the one item or is it

2916
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:36,000
talking about the whole 190,000? But by

2917
02:01:33,679 --> 02:01:40,000
doing this, the council's authorizing

2918
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,320
staff to vet this project already, you

2919
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:40,719
know.

2920
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,840
» Yeah.

2921
02:01:40,719 --> 02:01:45,119
» So, um, these are all I mean, the

2922
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:46,560
question is just for council and if you

2923
02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:48,960
want to schedule the future items. So,

2924
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,320
these are all, you know, uh, the council

2925
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,400
could decide what the item is.

2926
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:55,760
» Yeah. But if we go down memory lane,

2927
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:57,520
like we had a situation where every

2928
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:59,599
council member could potentially request

2929
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:01,760
an agenda item, we'd all vote for it and

2930
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:04,320
boom, there's five items to come up on a

2931
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:06,560
future agenda. Now we've narrowed it

2932
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:08,639
down to be very tight and you know, now

2933
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:10,880
we're hung up on one such item which

2934
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:13,840
could lead to three important

2935
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:15,760
conversations. So we're kind of

2936
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:17,599
» This is supposed to be discussing the

2937
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:18,800
CBF fund is what he's recommending.

2938
02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:19,599
» Yeah, that's what that is. CBF

2939
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:22,159
» Literally what it is.

2940
02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:23,520
» Yeah. And so we're already working on

2941
02:02:22,159 --> 02:02:24,639
EDCVC.

2942
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:27,040
» It's from the CBF.

2943
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:28,880
» We're already working on EDC. The EDCVC.

2944
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:30,800
So there already is an item in the

2945
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:31,920
pipeline to talk CV. Yeah. I think the

2946
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:34,960
question is Okay, that's good.

2947
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:37,599
» Yeah. So the question would just be, you

2948
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:40,560
know, do we want to make sure to include

2949
02:02:37,599 --> 02:02:41,840
detail on this um the banner program

2950
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,760
request

2951
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:44,639
» In that in that discussion? Yeah, I

2952
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,520
think that's

2953
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:46,000
» Are you okay with that?

2954
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:51,280
» Yeah.

2955
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:53,119
» Yeah. Um, so when uh so usually when we

2956
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:55,199
present like a future agenda item, so

2957
02:02:53,119 --> 02:02:57,280
for when we talk CBF, are we going to

2958
02:02:55,199 --> 02:02:59,520
get to we get to look at what

2959
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:01,360
everybody's requesting right before the

2960
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:03,520
meeting?

2961
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:06,080
So that's that's the iffy part. Right

2962
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:10,880
now there hasn't really been any council

2963
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:12,000
direction on specific items, right? like

2964
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:13,520
uh all we've said is we're going to

2965
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,159
schedule a future discussion to let

2966
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,639
everybody come up with their projects.

2967
02:03:16,159 --> 02:03:18,800
Got it.

2968
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:20,800
» So I think the item right now the item

2969
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:23,920
that we were working on for next week is

2970
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:26,880
essentially like you know there's

2971
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:28,960
190,000 here's what the categories are

2972
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:30,639
and then the only project that we had

2973
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,159
you know council direction on. So we

2974
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:36,080
were trying to get them to come present

2975
02:03:32,159 --> 02:03:38,480
was EDC on the the economic development

2976
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:40,880
program they run. So that was going to

2977
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:42,639
be the item. We could add, you know,

2978
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,480
information about this banner program

2979
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:45,520
request to that and have that as part of

2980
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:47,440
the item.

2981
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,400
» I think that that was like how I was

2982
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:51,119
hearing it, right?

2983
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:52,560
» Um the challenge with what you were

2984
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:56,080
saying and it's it's up to the council,

2985
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:58,080
but you know, like uh usually I can't

2986
02:03:56,080 --> 02:04:00,000
just send an email to everybody saying

2987
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:01,119
everybody any ideas you have, send them

2988
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:03,920
to me and I'll include them in the

2989
02:04:01,119 --> 02:04:05,280
packet because well because of the Brown

2990
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:07,360
Act really, right? because then it's

2991
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:10,960
like we're all brainstorming ideas

2992
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:13,920
outside of a council meeting. So um so

2993
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:15,360
that session would be looking at EDCVC

2994
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,040
the banner program but also

2995
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,000
brainstorming you know that's when we

2996
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:20,320
could talk about those things

2997
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,719
» And also discussing a process.

2998
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,960
» Yeah the process how we want to do it

2999
02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:27,280
and yeah how much of the funds we want

3000
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:29,360
to utilize for each category you know

3001
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:31,280
all that stuff could be discussed it

3002
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:35,280
would be a bigger picture

3003
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:38,000
» And then if you want to send in a future

3004
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:39,920
agenda item request to discuss the full

3005
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,960
banner program.

3006
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:41,760
That's what you were just talking about

3007
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,719
earlier.

3008
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:43,920
» Well, we have

3009
02:04:42,719 --> 02:04:46,159
» What

3010
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:49,040
» Well, can can I say something?

3011
02:04:46,159 --> 02:04:51,040
We have um we have the veterans ad hoc.

3012
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:56,480
Um

3013
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:58,400
we're going to present um a uh

3014
02:04:56,480 --> 02:05:00,400
they're going to present basically what

3015
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:03,920
where the the current status of the of

3016
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:05,840
the banner program and a phase two. Um

3017
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:09,360
and we're we we're getting a lot of

3018
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:12,080
inputs from from uh you know residents

3019
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:13,920
and so and like council member GMA,

3020
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:15,840
we're we're listening to everybody's

3021
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:20,000
recommendations. So, we're we're kind of

3022
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:21,520
pivoting a little bit. So, uh and we had

3023
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:22,560
discussed I had discussed maybe putting

3024
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:25,840
that on the agenda.

3025
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:27,599
» Yeah, we were we were uh I think the

3026
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:30,400
council at one point too had said sort

3027
02:05:27,599 --> 02:05:32,560
of after the first round, you know, have

3028
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:34,560
a debrief item on the banner program,

3029
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:37,599
how it went, any changes, all that kind

3030
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:40,480
of stuff. So, that can be an item too. I

3031
02:05:37,599 --> 02:05:43,360
think it's, you know, um

3032
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:44,880
» Without it being written up. Well, I

3033
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:46,880
mean, I think it already was, right?

3034
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,360
Like it was already uh the council had

3035
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:52,880
already said, you know, the council have

3036
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:54,320
agreed to fund that program initially

3037
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:56,400
and then the idea was going to be and

3038
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:58,080
then come back at some point and do a

3039
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,239
debrief and talk about what worked and

3040
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:02,960
didn't work. So, so that's a that's an

3041
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:04,719
item two. I think I think that's really

3042
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,719
and we were talking about doing

3043
02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:08,800
something like that before Veterans Day

3044
02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:10,639
coming up. So, I think it could be both

3045
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:12,719
of like both of those. Well, let me

3046
02:06:10,639 --> 02:06:17,199
answer it this way. that item was

3047
02:06:12,719 --> 02:06:19,840
already on like the the list and then

3048
02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:22,320
this would be just including it with the

3049
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:24,159
CVF item that was on the list. So, we

3050
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:26,880
can do both of those things.

3051
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:30,800
» So, I have a question regarding that. We

3052
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:34,480
weren't the one to initially really

3053
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:35,760
discuss and put in the categories and

3054
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:37,520
everything for the banner program. It

3055
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:39,840
was ad hoc committee who created the

3056
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:41,840
process. So, are we now coming in now to

3057
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:43,599
make decisions on it or shouldn't it

3058
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,159
still be an ad hoc committee

3059
02:06:43,599 --> 02:06:46,960
» Program?

3060
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:47,360
» So, you you set the ad hoc,

3061
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,040
» Right?

3062
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,400
» And then the ad ad hoc committee is the

3063
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,360
one who develops the process.

3064
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,159
» Yeah.

3065
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:54,480
» One of the banners.

3066
02:06:52,159 --> 02:06:56,800
» So, typically what I recommend and it's

3067
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:58,079
one of those things not to have an ego,

3068
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:59,599
but it's always the reminder that the

3069
02:06:58,079 --> 02:07:01,280
commissions and ad hoc committees work

3070
02:06:59,599 --> 02:07:03,920
for the council and they don't work for

3071
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:05,760
me, right? like uh they're not my

3072
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,679
employee so I don't really give them

3073
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,440
direction but the council as a whole

3074
02:07:07,679 --> 02:07:11,199
gives them direction on what their job

3075
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:14,239
is, what their missions are, all that

3076
02:07:11,199 --> 02:07:17,040
kind of thing. So um so what I usually

3077
02:07:14,239 --> 02:07:19,119
recommend is when you create a committee

3078
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:21,280
and then usually like six months or a

3079
02:07:19,119 --> 02:07:22,719
year in doing a review of what they're

3080
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:24,239
doing to make sure they're doing the

3081
02:07:22,719 --> 02:07:26,960
thing that the council wanted them to

3082
02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:29,119
do, you know. So I think it's more of

3083
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:31,440
that. It would be like a review of the

3084
02:07:29,119 --> 02:07:33,360
banner like you know uh the work that

3085
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:35,840
the committee's done so far which is the

3086
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:37,760
banner program you know and then the

3087
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:39,520
council could potentially decide we like

3088
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:43,360
this and we want to keep it up and we

3089
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:44,880
want to do more or you know it uh we

3090
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:46,800
didn't like it and do we want to change

3091
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:50,000
it to this you know all that is within

3092
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:50,560
the council's uh scope.

3093
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,400
» Okay. So

3094
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:55,040
» Yeah, and and also the veterans ad hoc

3095
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:56,480
have a group email. Um if you send it to

3096
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:58,719
Brian

3097
02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:00,880
» Uh it'll Brian will direct that email to

3098
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:02,800
the veterans ad hoc and you know they're

3099
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,199
not bound by the Brown Act.

3100
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:04,400
» So

3101
02:08:03,199 --> 02:08:06,079
» Oh, they're an ad hoc.

3102
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:07,760
» They're ad hoc. So you guys can fire

3103
02:08:06,079 --> 02:08:09,360
away at them. Any recommendations? Do

3104
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:11,760
you guys send them to Brian?

3105
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:13,840
» Yeah. So, so let's get back to the item

3106
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:16,320
and does anyone have a motion based on

3107
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:18,800
what we've talked about as it relates to

3108
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:21,440
a motion for this action and moving

3109
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:24,480
forward with the CBF discussion

3110
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:25,040
» With confused. I think it's already in

3111
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:28,079
the pipeline.

3112
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:30,560
» Well, with the so the note that uh

3113
02:08:28,079 --> 02:08:32,000
veterans ad hoc committee update on the

3114
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:35,760
banner program is already in the

3115
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:37,760
pipeline. So the question is, do we want

3116
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:40,079
to include the ME military banner

3117
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:42,560
program in the community benefit fund

3118
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:45,920
discussion we were planning

3119
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:47,679
» As a potential item

3120
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:49,920
» And if you say yes now it doesn't mean

3121
02:08:47,679 --> 02:08:51,599
you have to fund it, right? Like that

3122
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:53,280
that's what you will discuss.

3123
02:08:51,599 --> 02:08:55,040
» Just a future it'll just be an agenda

3124
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,639
item. Agendaized the item.

3125
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:58,480
» That's correct. Yes. Thank you.

3126
02:08:56,639 --> 02:09:00,719
» So moved.

3127
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:03,199
» Does anyone have a motion?

3128
02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:05,599
» So moved. So what are you so moving?

3129
02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:07,440
» Let's move forward with the request

3130
02:09:05,599 --> 02:09:08,320
» To have it on the agenda so we can have

3131
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:09,119
a discuss request

3132
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,400
» With the CBF.

3133
02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:11,679
» Yeah, CBF.

3134
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:13,040
» CBF.

3135
02:09:11,679 --> 02:09:16,480
» Thank you. Thank you.

3136
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:22,719
» Um do we have any uh public comments?

3137
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:25,599
» Okay, great. Um any further discussion?

3138
02:09:22,719 --> 02:09:26,960
No. Um Madame Clerk, please take role.

3139
02:09:25,599 --> 02:09:27,599
» All in favor?

3140
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,360
» I.

3141
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:31,679
» All oppose?

3142
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:33,599
» Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

3143
02:09:31,679 --> 02:09:35,679
» Okay, great. Thank you. Uh we'll move on

3144
02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:37,440
to city manager comments and report.

3145
02:09:35,679 --> 02:09:38,480
» We're still on this item agenda

3146
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:38,800
requests.

3147
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:39,040
» No,

3148
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:40,320
» No,

3149
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,280
» No, that was the only item.

3150
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,960
» That was the only one.

3151
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:44,639
» Can I ask a question?

3152
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,480
» Oh, we went through it.

3153
02:09:44,639 --> 02:09:47,520
» Oh, it has nothing to do with the CBF

3154
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:51,520
fund though.

3155
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:53,520
» So, I apologize. Okay, that was a

3156
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:57,360
question that I had from the city

3157
02:09:53,520 --> 02:10:00,000
attorney, but Paul left was I just

3158
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:01,840
wanted to know is flock cameras an item

3159
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,840
that's going to be coming up on the

3160
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:05,840
agenda at some point. Okay, thank you.

3161
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:09,599
» Yeah.

3162
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:12,079
» Okay. Um, city manager Oh, comments.

3163
02:10:09,599 --> 02:10:13,840
» Yeah, I kind of want to skip right to

3164
02:10:12,079 --> 02:10:17,040
that, but I'll go through these other

3165
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:20,079
slates first. Um, I will answer that

3166
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:21,840
question in a moment, though. Um, so we

3167
02:10:20,079 --> 02:10:23,760
wanted to highlight uh I think it's the

3168
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:25,679
last movie park movie in the park of the

3169
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:28,000
year and it I think it's a pretty good

3170
02:10:25,679 --> 02:10:30,719
one at Wimi Beach Park. It'll be Pirates

3171
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:35,280
of the uh car. Now I'm thinking too much

3172
02:10:30,719 --> 02:10:38,880
about how to say Caribbean Caribbean.

3173
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:42,320
Uh the Pirates of the Caribbean at Wimi

3174
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:44,560
Beach Park uh this Saturday at 7:15 p.m.

3175
02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:47,440
So the ones at Wayne Beach Park are

3176
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:49,199
pretty popular. So, we wanted to remind

3177
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:51,760
everybody to come out and uh get there

3178
02:10:49,199 --> 02:10:54,320
early to get a spot uh a nice spot on

3179
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:56,719
the sand. So,

3180
02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:58,239
uh we also wanted to highlight uh in our

3181
02:10:56,719 --> 02:11:00,239
partnership with the Western Ventura

3182
02:10:58,239 --> 02:11:02,400
County uh business alliance, the West

3183
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:05,119
Ventura County Business Alliance. Um

3184
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:07,199
this year, uh they're creating a

3185
02:11:05,119 --> 02:11:09,920
category new this year, which is the

3186
02:11:07,199 --> 02:11:12,560
Port Wayne Legacy Award, which is a new

3187
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:15,199
award under their 2026 business awards

3188
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,480
program. Um and it'll recognize an

3189
02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:18,480
outstanding individual who has

3190
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:20,320
demonstrated long-term dedication and

3191
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,840
made a transformative economic and

3192
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:25,920
community impact to the betterment of

3193
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:27,119
Port Wayne. And so this is new and uh

3194
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,960
we're trying to make sure we get the

3195
02:11:27,119 --> 02:11:31,119
word out because I have a feeling if the

3196
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:32,880
word was out that there'd be some

3197
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:34,320
applications that people would want to

3198
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:36,159
submit. So we wanted to just let

3199
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:38,079
everybody know that the application

3200
02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:39,679
process is open till Friday, September

3201
02:11:38,079 --> 02:11:42,000
18th.

3202
02:11:39,679 --> 02:11:46,000
» Well, that's not

3203
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:48,400
» Yeah. And um we also made sure to

3204
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:50,800
clarify that uh because they now

3205
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:54,880
represent Camrio Oxnard and Weini, you

3206
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:56,400
also could nominate Weani uh residents,

3207
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:58,320
community members for all the other

3208
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,520
categories, too. But we just want to

3209
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:02,320
really highlight that there's a Port

3210
02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:04,639
Wimi legacy award that we really want to

3211
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:07,840
make sure that somebody gets uh

3212
02:12:04,639 --> 02:12:10,320
recognition for.

3213
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:12,400
Then uh next the following week uh we

3214
02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:14,560
have uh California Coastal Cleanup Day

3215
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:17,520
on Saturday, September 19th from 9:00 am

3216
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:19,760
to noon. Um this is always a good event

3217
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:21,360
with lots of volunteers. So we we invite

3218
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:23,920
everybody to come join us this year and

3219
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:27,280
we meet at the Alaska Flight 261

3220
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:29,679
Memorial and spend the morning uh uh

3221
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:31,599
participating in coastal cleanup day. So

3222
02:12:29,679 --> 02:12:34,320
wanted to invite everybody to that

3223
02:12:31,599 --> 02:12:37,920
coming up as well.

3224
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:39,679
And then uh um for the September 21st

3225
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:41,599
agenda, we have three presentations

3226
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:44,719
scheduled. National Hispanic Heritage

3227
02:12:41,599 --> 02:12:47,520
Month. Um we have a presentation uh from

3228
02:12:44,719 --> 02:12:50,400
United Water Conservation District that

3229
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:52,800
uh we uh council had requested and then

3230
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:55,199
the uh US 101 improvement program

3231
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:57,440
presentation by the uh Ventura County

3232
02:12:55,199 --> 02:12:59,840
Transportation Commission as well. So

3233
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:02,480
three interesting presentations.

3234
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:06,079
For business items, we have the note

3235
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:08,079
there about um uh I think we're planning

3236
02:13:06,079 --> 02:13:10,719
to bring the community benefit fund item

3237
02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:12,079
back and I think with the the future

3238
02:13:10,719 --> 02:13:15,440
item today, we'll definitely bring it

3239
02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:18,079
back. We haven't gotten a a a

3240
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:19,599
presentation date yet from EDCVC, but I

3241
02:13:18,079 --> 02:13:22,239
think we'll plan to start the

3242
02:13:19,599 --> 02:13:23,920
conversation regardless and then uh

3243
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:26,880
we'll try to get them to join us when

3244
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:28,719
they can rather than hold it up for

3245
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,560
that. So, we'll try to get them there

3246
02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:34,079
the 21st, but if not, we'll we'll bring

3247
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:36,639
the CBF item back regardless.

3248
02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:38,320
Um, I guess I had on here I didn't

3249
02:13:36,639 --> 02:13:41,840
remember the banner program. So, I guess

3250
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:43,280
that answers that. So, to council member

3251
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:45,280
GMA's question, you'll be able to

3252
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:47,920
provide uh feedback on the banner

3253
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:49,679
program on that item. I I guess now

3254
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:52,079
Yeah, I should have remembered that, but

3255
02:13:49,679 --> 02:13:55,040
I didn't. Um, and then uh we did get the

3256
02:13:52,079 --> 02:13:56,639
Cal's conference resolution packet. for

3257
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:59,280
the first time in probably years, we got

3258
02:13:56,639 --> 02:14:01,440
that ahead of the conference. So, we'll

3259
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:05,360
bring that to council for approval as

3260
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:07,280
well. And then um the uh answer to the

3261
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:08,800
question a moment ago is we have

3262
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:11,040
received two future agenda item

3263
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:13,280
requests. I don't normally list the

3264
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:16,639
future agenda item requests, but I knew

3265
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:19,119
that the um flock question is a question

3266
02:14:16,639 --> 02:14:20,719
on a lot of people's minds. So, uh one

3267
02:14:19,119 --> 02:14:22,800
of the requests is for automated lo

3268
02:14:20,719 --> 02:14:25,760
license plate reader options. I will

3269
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:29,840
note um that

3270
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:32,079
uh our um our department our police

3271
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:35,520
department and I have been talking about

3272
02:14:32,079 --> 02:14:38,400
trying to change from flock for a few

3273
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:42,159
reasons. So

3274
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:45,840
uh we may actually try to bring a change

3275
02:14:42,159 --> 02:14:47,280
um sooner rather than later. Um uh but

3276
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:49,599
uh we we did receive the feature

3277
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:51,679
request. Um, so one way or another,

3278
02:14:49,599 --> 02:14:52,880
we'll talk about that on the on the 20

3279
02:14:51,679 --> 02:14:55,199
or we'll be able to talk about that a

3280
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:57,119
little bit on the 21st. And then the

3281
02:14:55,199 --> 02:14:59,280
there was a second request for ebike

3282
02:14:57,119 --> 02:15:02,800
safety and regulationsformational

3283
02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:04,880
report. So that'll be a a future request

3284
02:15:02,800 --> 02:15:07,520
with the license plate reader option

3285
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:10,079
maybe becoming a business item if uh

3286
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:12,639
we're able to to get a hold of a couple

3287
02:15:10,079 --> 02:15:14,480
key people on that. Yep.

3288
02:15:12,639 --> 02:15:16,480
So, those are going to be on an that

3289
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:17,360
we'll vote to put on an agenda or

3290
02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:21,199
they're already coming.

3291
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:24,560
» The ebike one is going to be a vote. The

3292
02:15:21,199 --> 02:15:26,560
license plate reader may be a a vote on

3293
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:28,560
whether to put it on agenda or we might

3294
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:30,159
actually already have an option we want

3295
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:33,199
to recommend changing to.

3296
02:15:30,159 --> 02:15:35,360
» Okay. So, we've been uh for the last few

3297
02:15:33,199 --> 02:15:36,960
weeks, we were contacting some

3298
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:39,599
alternative options and trying to find

3299
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:41,280
some some different options after, you

3300
02:15:39,599 --> 02:15:45,280
know, I think everybody knows like Flock

3301
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:47,760
had their um leak and then policy or you

3302
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:49,599
know, privacy concerns on Flock as a

3303
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:51,520
whole. So, we started to look at

3304
02:15:49,599 --> 02:15:53,520
alternative options and this morning we

3305
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:55,199
had a good conversation about one. So,

3306
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:58,639
we'll try to we we might be able to

3307
02:15:55,199 --> 02:16:01,520
bring that back by September 21st.

3308
02:15:58,639 --> 02:16:04,800
» And then we'll also have

3309
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:07,119
We'll have El Nino um at this point. I

3310
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:07,360
don't want to commit to that on the 21st

3311
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:08,239
yet

3312
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:11,599
» Just for the future.

3313
02:16:08,239 --> 02:16:14,480
» But for future Yeah.

3314
02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:16,000
And just because uh there's a few

3315
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:17,440
departments that we probably have to

3316
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:20,239
include in that. So I'm not sure what

3317
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:24,679
the timing is. All right. But that's the

3318
02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:24,679
plan for the 21st and that's all I have.

3319
02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:31,320
If not, we'll move on to council member

3320
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:31,320
reports comments.

3321
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:38,639
» Um, Wayne Housing, Inc. Um, we we did

3322
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:41,439
purchase a property um in a gated

3323
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:44,559
community and did all cash offer for

3324
02:16:41,439 --> 02:16:48,160
low-income housing. Um, what we're not

3325
02:16:44,559 --> 02:16:49,760
doing, you know, the goal is to to

3326
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:52,479
provide low-inccome housing. And I think

3327
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:54,639
this this really helps this council as

3328
02:16:52,479 --> 02:16:58,639
well as meeting our our reign of

3329
02:16:54,639 --> 02:17:02,399
numbers. Um, so it was good to to to be

3330
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:04,479
able to purchase a a property and uh

3331
02:17:02,399 --> 02:17:05,519
immediately offer up for section 8. Uh,

3332
02:17:04,479 --> 02:17:09,040
there's going to be a little bit of work

3333
02:17:05,519 --> 02:17:12,000
that needs to be done by that, but u uh

3334
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:15,439
we do have a uh

3335
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:16,719
a five-year visioning uh program or um

3336
02:17:15,439 --> 02:17:19,920
meeting that we're going to be having

3337
02:17:16,719 --> 02:17:22,719
here soon. and uh and we'll be

3338
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:25,519
presenting back to the council what what

3339
02:17:22,719 --> 02:17:30,240
the goals are for Wayne Housing Inc. and

3340
02:17:25,519 --> 02:17:33,920
uh specifically like Willowbrook um and

3341
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:35,439
how Wayne Housing Inc. is uh is viewed,

3342
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:37,679
you know, like what how how our

3343
02:17:35,439 --> 02:17:39,519
structure is and uh so looking forward

3344
02:17:37,679 --> 02:17:41,359
to that meeting and and you know and

3345
02:17:39,519 --> 02:17:42,960
brainstorming with the other board

3346
02:17:41,359 --> 02:17:45,679
members and bringing all that back to

3347
02:17:42,960 --> 02:17:47,359
council. That's all I have.

3348
02:17:45,679 --> 02:17:49,920
» Yes. And to follow on that, we're

3349
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:51,439
planning our first fundraiser for Wayne

3350
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:54,000
Housing, Inc. We're going to try to have

3351
02:17:51,439 --> 02:17:56,160
one fundraiser a year to try to increase

3352
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:58,800
revenue so that we can have plenty of

3353
02:17:56,160 --> 02:18:01,519
income to improve our properties that we

3354
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:04,800
have and to add more properties to our

3355
02:18:01,519 --> 02:18:07,920
our profile. Um, also we had our first

3356
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:10,240
food share Salvation Army uh at Marv

3357
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:12,000
Vista with the in conjunction with the

3358
02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:14,319
Wayne Housing Inc. Alliance Club and

3359
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:17,439
that was very successful and that is on

3360
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:19,840
the third Thursday of the month from now

3361
02:18:17,439 --> 02:18:22,719
it'll be from 1 to 2 at Mar Vista for

3362
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:24,240
anybody who wants to come and volunteer

3363
02:18:22,719 --> 02:18:28,599
but that was very successful and the

3364
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:28,599
residents were very thankful

3365
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:37,679
» In um in a beach cleanup we noticed that

3366
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:40,240
the trash cans at the beach are very

3367
02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:42,160
stinky and I'm wondering if we've ever

3368
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:45,040
used that service that cleans out the

3369
02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:47,280
trash cans. Um, it's just a question

3370
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:50,800
maybe you could look into, but um,

3371
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,639
they're pretty pretty nasty. Um, and

3372
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:54,160
then earlier this week on September 1st,

3373
02:18:52,639 --> 02:18:55,920
I got a phone call from a friend of mine

3374
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:57,599
that lives closer to the port for me and

3375
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:59,200
he thought, "Hey, I I think I smell

3376
02:18:57,599 --> 02:19:01,599
natural gas." And I'm like, "Well, call

3377
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:03,519
this number and report report the the

3378
02:19:01,599 --> 02:19:05,200
matter." And I was sitting up in my

3379
02:19:03,519 --> 02:19:08,000
bedroom and then suddenly I began to

3380
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:10,000
smell natural gas. So, I phoned the gas

3381
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:12,880
company and the gas company came out and

3382
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:15,840
investigated it and I think 10 people

3383
02:19:12,880 --> 02:19:18,319
may have called in and um the fire

3384
02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:20,399
department got involved. Eventually, the

3385
02:19:18,319 --> 02:19:22,319
investigator for the Southern California

3386
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:24,479
Gas came to my doorstep and said, "We

3387
02:19:22,319 --> 02:19:28,960
traced it back to the port. It's not

3388
02:19:24,479 --> 02:19:33,040
natural gas." And uh I think the harbor

3389
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:35,439
master informed them that um it's a

3390
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:37,920
fueling operation that goes on every

3391
02:19:35,439 --> 02:19:42,240
Tuesday. So the message that the

3392
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:43,840
investigated me was get used to it and

3393
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:47,439
» Made my husband sick.

3394
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:49,840
» Yeah. And and you know numerous people

3395
02:19:47,439 --> 02:19:52,240
were spelling it. Didn't didn't phone it

3396
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:53,600
in. But uh but the bottom line is they

3397
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:56,560
traced it back to the port. Apparently

3398
02:19:53,600 --> 02:20:00,160
it has to do with diesel fuel transfers.

3399
02:19:56,560 --> 02:20:02,160
Um and this whole idea of get used to it

3400
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:04,800
on Tuesday nights. I think that's

3401
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:06,000
completely inadequate. So I don't know.

3402
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:08,240
We're still waiting to hear from the

3403
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:10,800
port. So, I wish they would give us

3404
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:13,359
information because it literally blanket

3405
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:16,000
blanketed the area right here on the

3406
02:20:13,359 --> 02:20:17,439
left side of Wayne Road. So, we're still

3407
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:19,600
looking for answers. So, if the port, if

3408
02:20:17,439 --> 02:20:23,040
you're listening, could you please let

3409
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:26,240
us residents know what what's going on?

3410
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:28,560
That's it.

3411
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:30,160
Um, I don't have any uh reports on

3412
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:32,240
meetings, but I do want to share with

3413
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:35,359
you that I had the pleasure of attending

3414
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:38,000
the uh grand opening of the new Filipino

3415
02:20:35,359 --> 02:20:40,720
Cultural Center that's over here on um

3416
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:43,520
Wanimi Road. What a beautiful place and

3417
02:20:40,720 --> 02:20:46,479
what a a nice addition to our city. I

3418
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:49,520
was so excited to see the potential that

3419
02:20:46,479 --> 02:20:52,479
that's going to bring um of to our to

3420
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:55,680
our city, not only culturally, but just

3421
02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:59,120
um it's it's a new it's a community that

3422
02:20:55,680 --> 02:21:02,880
um is going to grow and um they have

3423
02:20:59,120 --> 02:21:05,760
murals, they have history um and it's I

3424
02:21:02,880 --> 02:21:07,920
I'm just so excited to have this um this

3425
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:09,520
center now in in our city and I think

3426
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:12,479
it's something we can definitely build

3427
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:14,240
upon. So, if you haven't seen it yet, um

3428
02:21:12,479 --> 02:21:17,439
definitely go check it out. I don't know

3429
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:20,000
the hours that it's open, but um it's

3430
02:21:17,439 --> 02:21:22,399
just a beautiful facility. The uh

3431
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:27,200
association bought it. They bought the

3432
02:21:22,399 --> 02:21:29,600
building and uh the uh the board has

3433
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:31,920
apparently been entrusted with the money

3434
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:33,600
to keep it going and they've certainly

3435
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:36,319
if you look at it, you they've invested

3436
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:37,840
a lot in it already. So, uh I think it's

3437
02:21:36,319 --> 02:21:40,880
going to be around for a long time. So,

3438
02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:42,080
just wanted to share that. ini

3439
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:44,479
» Right here on Yeah.

3440
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:48,359
» Is it Isn't it near Anna Capuccino?

3441
02:21:44,479 --> 02:21:48,359
» Yeah, it's in that Ana Cappuccino.

3442
02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:51,680
» Okay,

3443
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:53,040
» That's all I have. Thank you.

3444
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:54,880
» Great. Thank you. And I don't have

3445
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:56,720
anything to add. Um I've been attending

3446
02:21:54,880 --> 02:21:59,680
my monthly meetings and nothing to

3447
02:21:56,720 --> 02:22:02,880
report out specifically for Port Wine.

3448
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:04,640
Um so is there anything else? If not

3449
02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:06,720
nothing else, we're we're going to

3450
02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:08,960
adjourn uh this meeting to our next

3451
02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:11,680
scheduled meeting September 21st at

3452
02:22:08,960 --> 02:22:14,840
6:30. So the meeting is now adjourned.

3453
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:14,840
It's 8:49.