[3:18] Okay, good evening everyone and uh
[3:20] welcome to the city council uh regular
[3:22] meeting. I'm calling this meeting to
[3:23] order. The time is now 6:30 p.m. Please
[3:26] stand and join us for the flag salute.
[3:29] Um council member Perez,
[3:32] » Right hand over your heart. Ready,
[3:34] begin.
[3:35] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[3:38] United States of America and to the
[3:40] republic for which it stands, one nation
[3:43] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[3:46] justice for all.
[3:51] Thank you, Madame Clerk, please take a
[3:53] role.
[3:54] » Council member GMA
[3:55] » Here.
[3:56] » Council member Lopez
[3:57] » Here.
[3:57] » Council member Perez
[3:59] » Here.
[3:59] » Mayor Prom Hernandez
[4:00] » Here. And Mayor McQueen Leon
[4:02] » Here. And we're going to have our
[4:04] inspiration tonight um by Council Member
[4:06] Lopez. Over to you.
[4:07] » Thank you.
[4:10] » Um council residents,
[4:14] » Little inspiration. Uh yesterday we had
[4:17] a day off. Um hope hopefully everybody
[4:19] got to enjoy Labor Day. Um I know some
[4:22] of us still had to work, but uh I I just
[4:26] wanted to recognize this. Uh every Labor
[4:28] Day, some of us fire up the grill, relax
[4:30] with family, enjoy a well-earned break,
[4:33] but this day has always meant more than
[4:35] just a long weekend. It is a debt of
[4:38] gratitude to the everyday people whose
[4:40] handle whose hands built this country
[4:42] and keep it standing.
[4:45] Labor Day honors the American labor
[4:46] movement and celebrates the social,
[4:48] economic, and cultural contributions of
[4:50] workers across the country. Right here
[4:53] in Mura County, that story, you can see
[4:55] it. You can feel it every single
[4:57] morning. Um, as I drive down Wayne Road,
[5:01] I see the uh
[5:04] I see the the farm workers working in
[5:06] the field
[5:08] bow down picking rolls of strawberries
[5:11] or tending to citrus orchards carrying a
[5:13] proud legacy of resilient hard work
[5:16] dignity. When Ventura County feeds our
[5:19] nation, it's the grit skill of the
[5:21] people in our fields. That same spirit
[5:24] runs through every corner of our
[5:25] community. We see it on the docks here
[5:27] at Port Wayani where ILwu long shoreman
[5:31] workers guide heavy cranes keep cargo
[5:33] moving across the Pacific. You see it in
[5:36] our building trades, the carpenters,
[5:38] pipe fitters, electricians, framing
[5:41] homes and rising skylines across
[5:43] Cameroon to Ventura. You feel it. You
[5:46] feel it. What really keeps uh makes it
[5:50] home is our own public works employees.
[5:52] SEIU keeping our parks clean,
[5:54] maintaining our roads and managing vital
[5:57] infrastructure. Our peace officers out
[5:59] in patrol keeping our neighborhoods safe
[6:01] and the nurses and healthc care staff
[6:03] pulling long shifts in our clinics. The
[6:06] teachers showing up for our kids every
[6:08] morning and the civilian mechanics and
[6:10] military personnel keeping operational
[6:13] mission ready across Point Magoo and
[6:15] Port Wayne. Labor Day is a simple truth.
[6:17] Every job has dignity and every worker
[6:20] deserves respect. Thank you.
[6:29] » Yes. Close session item A. There is no
[6:31] reportable action. Close session item B.
[6:34] There's no reportable action.
[6:36] » Great. Thank you. We'll now move to
[6:38] public comments not pertaining to the
[6:40] items uh on the agenda. Uh comments will
[6:43] be limited to three minutes. If you're
[6:44] participating via Zoom, please use the
[6:46] raise hand feature. Um, this process
[6:49] will be the same uh pertaining to each
[6:51] agenda item. Madame Clerk, are there any
[6:53] public comments?
[6:55] » Yes. Uh, first up is Martin Sanchez.
[7:04] » Good evening everyone. Um, my name is
[7:07] Martin Sanchez. I live on u on Scott
[7:11] Street on the 66tory block. And um
[7:16] as we may all be aware, a couple of
[7:19] years ago um we had extensive flooding.
[7:24] I attended a meeting such as this one at
[7:27] after the fact and I inquired um
[7:32] um about the contingencies that the city
[7:36] had
[7:38] to make sure that doesn't happen again.
[7:41] I inquired about the pump house that's
[7:44] on Surive Drive.
[7:46] I inquired if it had been retrofitted or
[7:50] if there was any plans to retrofited so
[7:52] that it could u accept
[7:55] additional power in the case of a power
[7:57] outage because without the pumps
[8:01] there's going to be flooding there.
[8:04] And at that time uh I was informed that
[8:07] uh someone would get me that information
[8:11] later on. Uh to this date I have not
[8:14] received anything and perhaps I was
[8:17] supposed to come and inquire personally.
[8:20] Is there any information about it?
[8:26] » And um yes I believe that our public
[8:30] works department actually had put some
[8:32] information together on that. So, we'll
[8:34] have the public works department get
[8:35] back to you.
[8:36] » I would really appreciate that. Uh as a
[8:40] me as personally as u quite a number of
[8:44] uh the residents on that block,
[8:46] » We suffered extensive damage
[8:50] in our household. We had over $30,000 in
[8:52] damage.
[8:54] Um
[8:56] the race foundation part of the house in
[8:59] the front uh the whole um race
[9:02] foundation was flooded.
[9:05] The addition in the back which was on a
[9:07] slab the water came in through the
[9:09] walls. So consequently all the drywall
[9:13] had to be replaced
[9:15] to a certain height. and uh I didn't
[9:19] inquire with all the other neighbors,
[9:20] but I'm assuming that they had similar
[9:23] damage as well. And um previous to that
[9:27] event,
[9:29] um
[9:32] my mistake was that I didn't take the
[9:34] name of the person that I talked to when
[9:36] they were cleaning up the creek. I did
[9:39] inquire at that time if um there were
[9:43] any what contingency plans the city had
[9:47] regarding that pump and regarding in
[9:51] case of a power outage what was the
[9:53] plan.
[9:55] I have um some knowledge on um on the
[10:00] issues of pumps because I used to work
[10:01] for the state of California, the
[10:03] department of transportation
[10:05] and I was in charge of the pump houses
[10:07] in the state highway system
[10:10] and I couldn't see any retrofit uh
[10:13] connections to for a a generator a
[10:17] three-phase generator which those pumps
[10:19] do require.
[10:21] » Great. Thank you. as our thank you. As
[10:23] our city manager said, someone will
[10:25] reach out to you from public works.
[10:26] » We really appreciate great to get back
[10:28] to you. And we also have some items
[10:29] coming up talking about some of the
[10:31] storm preparation we've done in the city
[10:33] as well. So, we'll also share some of
[10:35] that information
[10:36] » And thank you for your comment.
[10:39] » Bobby Martinez.
[10:46] Good evening, Mayor McQueen Leon, Mayor
[10:48] Pro Tim Hernandez, city council, me uh
[10:52] members of our community and our staff.
[10:54] I want to invite you all to our second
[10:57] annual fundraiser for the Wimi Sister
[10:59] Cities Committee. It's tacos, music, and
[11:01] games night. It's next Monday, September
[11:04] 14th, and it's from 5 to 8:00 p.m. at 6
[11:09] o'clock. We'll start the performance
[11:12] from the Weini High School Florico
[11:14] dance. And we're also going to have the
[11:17] oostas mariachi from the whole district
[11:20] perform. Right after that, we'll have
[11:22] games before and after and we'll have
[11:24] raffles. And I I want to invite you all
[11:27] and just let you know that as a way of
[11:29] saying thank you for letting us use the
[11:31] community center. I do have a ticket for
[11:33] all of you council members. Sorry, not
[11:35] the attorney or the city manager or city
[11:37] clerk. Sorry. Sorry. You guys will have
[11:39] to get your own. But um but hopefully
[11:41] you can all join us and it's for a great
[11:44] cause. Last year, we were able to
[11:47] put out scholarships or you want to
[11:49] think of them as prizes for the for the
[11:51] kids in our community that participated
[11:53] in the scholarship and we want to do it
[11:55] again and we want to do it bigger than
[11:57] we did it last year. So, um hopefully
[11:59] everyone can come out and support. I
[12:01] think it's a really good way to bring
[12:02] the community together and just en enjoy
[12:06] some of the great things that we're
[12:08] doing here in our city.
[12:10] » Thank you.
[12:11] » Great. Thank you
[12:14] » Ever Ariano and Steven GMA.
[12:24] » Thank you. Ever's going to make a
[12:26] request here and I just wanted to come
[12:27] and stand behind him. Had a
[12:29] long-standing relationship with his
[12:30] father, surfer, fisherman. Kind of don't
[12:33] quite see eye to eye, but uh his father
[12:36] was a beautiful person and I'm standing
[12:38] here behind him to support him.
[12:41] Hello. Uh, dear mayor and members of the
[12:44] Port Wayini City Council, my father,
[12:48] Romeo Oliggoni Ariano, passed away on
[12:51] March 14, 2025.
[12:53] Sorry, allergies.
[12:56] Prior to his passing, while in the end
[12:59] stage of his life, he asked to be taken
[13:01] to the Weini Pier for one last visit.
[13:06] While I was pushing him in his
[13:08] wheelchair on the pier, we came face to
[13:11] face with Mr. Gamma here.
[13:14] The interaction followed was priceless.
[13:17] My father had a long friendly
[13:19] relationship with Mr. Gamma going back
[13:21] many years.
[13:23] They had an ongoing discussion regarding
[13:26] the surfers
[13:28] who surfed near the pier. My father
[13:30] would say, "There's a whole beach.
[13:34] Why do they have to surf here where we
[13:37] fish?
[13:39] Mr. Gamble's response was
[13:42] um always the same because this waves
[13:45] are here.
[13:47] The relationships he had with pier and
[13:50] his fishing buddies personify
[13:54] the connections people have with the
[13:55] ocean.
[13:57] My father spent countless days fishing
[13:59] from the pier.
[14:01] For him, fishing was far more than a
[14:04] pastime.
[14:06] It was a meaningful expression of his
[14:08] Filipino culture and heritage.
[14:12] Each visit connected him to family
[14:14] traditions, treasured memories, and deep
[14:18] relationship with the Philipp Filipino
[14:20] community that has long been shared with
[14:23] the ocean here in the city of poor wine.
[14:28] My father became part of the life and
[14:30] character of Wine Pier. His familiar
[14:33] presence reflected the quiet beauty of
[14:36] our waterfront.
[14:38] People gathering across generations,
[14:41] sharing stories, practicing traditions,
[14:43] and finding peace beside the sea and
[14:47] interacting with surfers.
[14:50] A plaque honoring my father would
[14:52] recognize not only beloved local
[14:56] fishermen but also the cultural history
[14:59] and contributions of the Filipino
[15:02] community in the city of Porini.
[15:06] It would remind it would remind future
[15:09] generations that the story of our peer
[15:12] is written through way the lives of
[15:15] people who loved it and made it an
[15:18] integral part of their lives.
[15:22] Respectfully, I request that the city of
[15:24] Poor Wayne Oops.
[15:27] » Go ahead, finish your thought.
[15:28] » Allow or create a way to honor the
[15:31] memory and legacy of pure fishermen.
[15:36] Starting with my father by allowing our
[15:38] family to place a commemorative plaque
[15:42] on Wing Me Pier.
[15:47] » Great. Thank you. You done?
[15:49] » I s Sorry.
[15:50] » Okay. Go ahead.
[15:51] » Just one more paragraph.
[15:52] » One whole paragraph.
[15:54] » I sincerely hope the city will consider
[15:56] this heartfelt request and allow my
[15:58] father's memory to remain the in the
[16:01] place where he spent so many meaningful
[16:03] days, 40 years worth.
[16:05] uh such a tribute would provide comfort
[16:08] to his family and friends while
[16:10] preserving his connection to anime pier
[16:12] for generations to come. I note that
[16:15] there is a brick memorial near the
[16:18] entrance of the pier where families have
[16:19] bought a brick to honor their loved
[16:22] ones. My hope is that a similar program
[16:25] can be created so a uniform and improved
[16:28] method can be place in be in place to
[16:31] honor the many fishermen of
[16:33] » Okay pier. Okay.
[16:35] » Thank you.
[16:35] » Thank you so much. Thank you.
[16:37] » Can you just say your father's last
[16:39] name? You said Romero
[16:40] » Ariano.
[16:41] » Ariano. Thank you.
[16:46] » Thank you.
[16:47] » Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you.
[16:58] » Is that No more?
[17:00] » That concludes public comment.
[17:01] » Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, we're
[17:03] going to now move on to the agenda
[17:04] approval. Um, may I have a motion and a
[17:08] second to approve the agenda?
[17:10] » Move to approve.
[17:12] » There a second.
[17:13] » Second.
[17:14] » Great. Madame clerk, please make one.
[17:17] » All in favor?
[17:18] » All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes
[17:21] unanimous.
[17:22] » Thanks. Do we have any members of
[17:24] council uh that have a conflict of
[17:26] interest to disclose for any item on the
[17:28] agenda?
[17:30] Okay, we'll move on to the
[17:32] presentations. We'll start with the
[17:33] National Suicide Prevention uh month
[17:36] proclamation.
[17:37] And so I'd like to welcome Maya Zumaya
[17:41] to the podium while um Council Member
[17:44] Perez reads the proclamation.
[17:46] » Thank you. Proclamation is in honor of
[17:49] National Suicide Prevention Month.
[17:52] Whereas September is recognized as
[17:54] National Suicide Prevention Month,
[17:56] providing an opportunity to raise
[17:58] awareness, reduce stigma, promote hope,
[18:00] and support those affected by suicide.
[18:03] Whereas suicide is a serious and
[18:05] preventable public health issue
[18:07] affecting individuals, families, and
[18:09] communities throughout Ventura County
[18:11] and across the nation. And whereas
[18:13] according to the Center for Disease
[18:15] Control and Prevention, suicide is one
[18:17] of the leading causes of death in the
[18:18] United States. And every life lost
[18:21] represents a profound tragedy for loved
[18:23] ones and the community. And whereas
[18:25] Ventura County Behavioral Health through
[18:27] funding provided by the Mental Health
[18:29] Services Act is supporting
[18:30] community-based suicide prevention by
[18:33] making evidence-based trainings
[18:34] available at no cost to the public.
[18:37] Whereas community partners including MZ
[18:39] Independent Consulting help advance
[18:41] suicide prevention efforts by
[18:43] encouraging community members to
[18:45] participate in free suicide prevention
[18:47] training such as QPR question persuade
[18:50] refer or living work safe talk to
[18:53] recognize warning signs and learn how to
[18:55] take action to save lives. Whereas the
[18:57] city of Port Weini recognizes the
[19:00] importance of fostering a community in
[19:02] which individuals feel valued,
[19:04] supported, connected, and encouraged to
[19:06] help to seek help when facing mental
[19:08] health challenges. And therefore, be it
[19:11] proclaimed that the city council of the
[19:13] city of Port Wanimi hereby recognizes
[19:15] the month of September 2026 as National
[19:18] Suicide Prevention Month and encourages
[19:20] all to take part in suicide prevention
[19:22] efforts by becoming informed, offering
[19:24] support, and promoting mental wellness.
[19:27] The city council further recognizes MZ
[19:30] Independent Consulting for its efforts
[19:32] in raising awareness and offering hope,
[19:34] support, and resources to those who may
[19:36] be struggling. Would you like to have
[19:39] words?
[19:40] » Yes. Thank you. Good evening, um,
[19:42] council members. I just want to thank
[19:43] again the city of Pro Wayne for honoring
[19:46] such an important topic and like the
[19:49] proclamation says, we are offering these
[19:52] free trainings. Um we just did six
[19:56] trainings today almost 400 students uh
[19:58] Deloul High School and we would love to
[20:02] partner with your city um those who have
[20:04] businesses in this city um nonprofits we
[20:08] would like to partner with you so that
[20:09] we can also make an impact in the city
[20:12] of Port Wayne. So um we have saved lives
[20:16] through these uh classes and work with
[20:18] people to help prevent suicide. So, it
[20:20] is making a difference, but we do know
[20:23] 988 calls are increasing
[20:26] um as well as suicides in our county.
[20:28] So, we would love for as many community
[20:30] members as possible to uh take advantage
[20:33] of these free classes. There's several
[20:36] different types at several different
[20:37] levels. Um so, there's something that
[20:39] fits everybody. We also encourage um the
[20:43] school district to participate as well.
[20:45] So, we're doing classes all across uh
[20:48] Oxnar Unified School Districts and we
[20:50] want to encourage um the city of Portway
[20:52] to partake as well. Thank you again for
[20:54] um honoring this uh very important
[20:57] month.
[20:59] » Thank you.
[21:00] » Um would you all like to go down for a
[21:02] photo?
[21:32] One, two, three.
[21:36] I want to do one for my husband.
[21:49] Let me see just in case.
[21:55] You have like
[22:12] Okay.
[22:14] for our next um
[22:18] for next uh proclamation. I'm going to
[22:20] go ahead and read this. Doesn't look
[22:22] like we have anyone to accept it, but I
[22:24] know you're going to have words after.
[22:26] Okay, great. This is the proclamation
[22:29] national preparedness month and 911
[22:32] remembrance. Whereas September is
[22:34] National Preparedness Month and offers
[22:37] us the opportunity to reflect on
[22:38] significant disasters we have
[22:40] encountered, including the September
[22:42] 11th attacks and recent winter storms.
[22:45] And whereas during this month, our
[22:48] community honors and remembers the lives
[22:50] lost on September 11th and the brave
[22:53] Americans who displayed extraordinary
[22:55] acts of courage and sacrifice. And
[22:58] whereas severe storms and other hazards
[23:00] remind us that we live in a world of
[23:03] constant risk where the next emergency
[23:05] could occur at any moment. And
[23:08] preparedness can mean the difference
[23:10] between inconvenience and tragedy.
[23:13] And whereas National Preparedness Month
[23:15] is a crucial opportunity for the
[23:17] residents and businesses of Portini to
[23:19] prepare for all types of emergencies
[23:22] whether at home work or in recreational
[23:25] spaces. And whereas National
[23:27] Preparedness Month encourages
[23:29] individuals to take steps toward
[23:31] personal preparedness, ensuring that
[23:33] households, workplaces, schools,
[23:36] institutions of higher learning, houses
[23:38] of worship, and community- based
[23:40] organizations are equipped to handle
[23:42] disasters and reduce loss of lives and
[23:45] economic impact in the event of a
[23:47] crisis. And whereas part participation
[23:51] in community emergency response training
[23:54] empowers more citizens to take action,
[23:58] enhancing their preparedness and
[24:00] understanding of potential disasters,
[24:02] whether natural or man man-made
[24:06] and equipping them with the knowledge to
[24:08] stay safe and mitigate damage. And
[24:12] whereas emergency preparedness is the
[24:15] shared responsibility of every resident
[24:17] of Port Wine and all are encouraged to
[24:20] prioritize preparedness by working
[24:22] together to ensure our community is
[24:24] ready for any type of disaster or
[24:26] emergency.
[24:28] And whereas engaging in National
[24:30] Preparedness Month activities will
[24:32] position Portini as a leader in
[24:35] preparedness and contribute to the
[24:37] overall resilience of our nation. Now
[24:40] therefore be it proclaimed that the city
[24:43] council of the city of Port Wimi does
[24:46] hereby proclaim the month of September
[24:49] 2026 as national preparedness month in
[24:53] the city of Port Winei and encourages
[24:55] all residents, businesses and
[24:57] organizations to participate in
[24:59] preparedness activities and contribute
[25:02] to building a more resilient Portini and
[25:05] further encourages all to honor and
[25:08] remember the lives lost on September 11,
[25:12] 20, 2001. And to recognize the courage,
[25:16] service, and sacrifice of those who
[25:18] responded. Proclaim this eighth day of
[25:22] September
[25:24] 2026.
[25:26] Signed for our council members. Over to
[25:28] you, city manager.
[25:29] » Thank you, mayor. And uh yeah, when we
[25:32] were put this agenda together a couple
[25:34] weeks ago, we put the agenda out last
[25:36] Monday. We were thinking uh that we were
[25:38] being proactive and ahead of the curve
[25:40] and uh trying to be prepared and remind
[25:43] our community to be prepared. Um as I
[25:45] mentioned earlier, we are planning to
[25:47] have some items related to preparedness
[25:49] come to council in coming uh months. Uh
[25:53] but we're also we're looking ahead to
[25:54] what we're hearing is going to be a uh a
[25:57] potential super El Nino this year. And
[25:59] so I think uh we wanted to start
[26:01] reminding people early to start
[26:03] preparing uh this year is that it has
[26:05] potential to be particularly problematic
[26:07] for Port Wayne with um potential uh
[26:12] storm surges, king tides and uh and uh a
[26:16] lot of rain in a short time period which
[26:18] is a bad recipe for us here in Port
[26:20] Wayne. Um, so we thought we were being
[26:23] proactive and then right after we put
[26:25] the agenda out, we got a hurricane
[26:27] notice last week, right? And so, uh,
[26:30] luckily the hurricane ended up not, uh,
[26:33] hitting Southern California, but it just
[26:36] kind of reflects that idea that those
[26:39] extreme weather events that used to be
[26:41] once in a lifetime aren't once in a
[26:43] lifetime anymore. I think we've had two
[26:45] hurricane
[26:47] uh warnings in the last three years and
[26:50] then between those we had one in 10,000
[26:53] year level storms. So, so it's
[26:56] definitely uh you know reminding
[26:59] everybody to take preparation emergency
[27:02] preparedness seriously. Um our list of
[27:04] things we're doing for preparedness is
[27:06] long. Uh even just things behind the
[27:08] scenes that people may not know about is
[27:10] things like uh creating a um uh working
[27:14] with the Red Cross to create a local uh
[27:17] emergency shelter, which is something
[27:18] that we've never had um uh specific to
[27:22] uh the city of Portland previously. Um
[27:25] uh and uh some of the work mentioned
[27:28] earlier, even just uh uh things that may
[27:30] not seem like emergency related, but
[27:32] things like removing all the debris from
[27:35] the creeks is done to ensure that the
[27:37] creeks can then move water in an
[27:39] emergency and that it's not going to
[27:41] back up. So, we're really trying to
[27:43] build emergency preparedness into
[27:44] everything we do. But we want to remind
[27:46] our residents as the as the uh
[27:49] proclamation said, it is a joint effort
[27:52] and it really requires everybody to be
[27:55] prepared uh and to take the steps to um
[27:59] to prepare for the next emergency. So,
[28:02] we wanted to give some reminders on
[28:04] that. We've also put some of this
[28:05] information recently in posts online and
[28:08] we'll plan to do more during National
[28:10] Preparedness Month. Uh but we wanted to
[28:12] remind people to prepare. Um learn the
[28:14] hazards where they live, work, and
[28:16] attend school. Plan how to evacuate or
[28:18] shelter safely. Uh include children,
[28:21] older adults, people with disabilities,
[28:23] and pets in plans. Keep emergency
[28:26] contacts current and written down and
[28:28] practice before an emergency occurs. And
[28:30] help your friends and neighbors prepare.
[28:33] Um the uh communication plan, we have
[28:36] some information here on on uh uh things
[28:39] that should be included in the
[28:40] communication plans, uh things like
[28:42] meeting places, uh evacuation routes, um
[28:46] household needs such as uh med
[28:49] medication. And we hear every emergency
[28:52] that one of the key things is people
[28:54] realize that they need uh medication or
[28:56] food for animals. So that's something
[28:58] else to just be prepared for. um and uh
[29:02] just uh keeping preparedness in mind and
[29:04] practicing and and updating uh plans and
[29:08] uh reviewing those every year. So, it's
[29:10] part of why we do National Preparedness
[29:12] Month every September.
[29:14] Um we also uh remind everybody to be
[29:18] prepared by building a kit, having a go
[29:20] bag, a stay box, uh water and food, um
[29:24] health and safety equipment, uh power
[29:26] and information. And I think that's
[29:28] becoming more and more common now with
[29:30] all the public safety power shut offs
[29:32] too, but being prepared and having uh
[29:35] you know uh phone chargers, battery
[29:37] powered uh items, power banks, things
[29:39] like that. And then um having copies of
[29:43] identification, insurance and contact
[29:44] information, cash and keys uh and
[29:47] comfort items for children and food and
[29:49] supply for pets. Um we also just want to
[29:52] take a moment to remind everybody of
[29:54] resources that are available. um uh for
[29:58] information. Uh there's a new one, so we
[30:00] really wanted to highlight that. But um
[30:02] VC Alert and VC Emergency, I know we've
[30:04] really tried to get the word out on
[30:06] those in recent years. I think a lot of
[30:08] people have signed up for those. Uh
[30:10] there's also Readyaccount.gov,
[30:12] but the new one that is just being
[30:15] released is Aware California, which can
[30:18] be found at aare.ca.gov.
[30:21] And uh I my understanding is our Ventura
[30:25] County Fire Department across uh the
[30:28] fire department across the county is
[30:30] really kind of moving to putting a lot
[30:33] of information on aware uh CA and so
[30:36] that's going to be a new key one. Um
[30:39] there had been like a third-party
[30:41] applications and things that were pretty
[30:43] re pretty good and pretty reliable but
[30:44] this is now going to be the the official
[30:47] uh public safety app. And so we had uh a
[30:50] lot of people on our team sign up for
[30:51] this recently and there's already
[30:53] significant amount of notifications and
[30:55] things on there.
[30:57] And then for some of these weather
[30:59] conditions that we're seeing, uh we
[31:01] remind everybody to check official
[31:03] sources for weather forecasts and
[31:05] warnings because you do see
[31:06] misinformation and um people some people
[31:09] seem to try to scare people. But um I
[31:12] know uh we had gotten an alert I think
[31:14] by Wednesday that there was no impact
[31:16] expected from the hurricane warning and
[31:19] then we saw that some people were still
[31:21] posting uh things which seem to try to
[31:23] scare people. But um having an official
[31:26] source like weather.gov is a good uh
[31:28] thing to bookmark so you can check
[31:30] during emergencies.
[31:32] Um, and as I said earlier, the key is,
[31:38] uh, really just getting preparedness in
[31:39] mind. Uh, and always trying to take
[31:42] steps to prepare and building those
[31:44] things into your plans. Um, and you
[31:48] know, just, uh, having thinking about
[31:50] being prepared every once in a while
[31:51] isn't really, um, doesn't really get you
[31:54] there. So, we remind everybody to take
[31:56] steps, uh, a step at a time. And uh
[32:00] every September, National Preparedness
[32:02] Month, um kind of check your checklists
[32:05] and uh your go bags and uh make sure
[32:08] you're getting uh you have accurate uh
[32:11] websites and things to get information
[32:13] from. So um I will just close with yeah
[32:17] with the uh we've had people ask are we
[32:19] concerned about the potential of the
[32:21] super El Nino? And the answer is yes.
[32:24] And uh what we would tell everybody you
[32:26] know is get prepared now. And we're also
[32:29] working on trying to get prepared now uh
[32:31] because uh the last super El Nino there
[32:34] were impacts to things like our
[32:36] infrastructure and things which just uh
[32:39] something like the pier is not built to
[32:41] withstand you know that those types of
[32:43] conditions. So, so, um, we're still
[32:46] we're trying to do the steps we need to
[32:48] do, but we also want to remind everybody
[32:49] to start preparing, uh, because right
[32:52] now it's still early being forecasted,
[32:54] but most people seem to agree that they
[32:55] think it will be, uh, impactful this
[32:58] year. So, we want to, uh, get prepared
[33:01] now. And, uh, our public works
[33:02] department has really, uh, taken um, uh,
[33:06] a lot of the effort of creating the the
[33:09] sandbags and distributing those
[33:10] sandbags. So, those are still available
[33:12] and people may want to get prepared and
[33:14] get some of those ahead of time as well
[33:15] in our public works yard. So, um and
[33:19] with that, uh that's all we have for
[33:21] preparedness month.
[33:22] » Can we have
[33:23] » Yes.
[33:24] » Okay. So, let's start. Um council member
[33:26] Lopez and Perez.
[33:27] » I know we're not supposed to uh we're
[33:29] not supposed to talk to public comments,
[33:31] but since we're talking about this, I
[33:33] want to direct my questions to you. Um
[33:37] would it be okay to um
[33:40] just to provide uh the city uh you know
[33:45] our maintenance upkeep plan and and the
[33:47] things that we're we're doing to prepare
[33:49] our you know the drainage. Uh
[33:53] just just a quick you know uh maybe
[33:56] public works can brief uh the city on
[33:58] the on the state of our drainage going
[34:01] out our our outflow. I think it would be
[34:04] good just you know so the residents can
[34:07] see what what uh what's what's been
[34:09] done.
[34:10] » Yeah. So like a um future presentation
[34:14] related to
[34:16] uh drainage
[34:18] » Work. Yeah. Yeah. We could do um or if
[34:23] the council
[34:24] uh would like that that's we could do a
[34:27] presentation on something like that. I
[34:29] can note that um for example, our teams
[34:32] went out and checked all the flood
[34:34] channels last week ahead of the hur you
[34:37] know the hurricane warning and that's
[34:38] something we typically do for each
[34:40] storm. Uh but if u the council could
[34:43] request a presentation on that.
[34:44] » Yeah. And then like let's let's talk
[34:46] about the areas that were flooded
[34:48] » Um and and things that we can do
[34:51] » Uh things any upkeep we can we can get
[34:54] in those areas as well. That's all I
[34:56] got. Thanks. So, regarding that to
[34:58] follow that, two of the issues that came
[35:00] up during the floodings were not our
[35:03] own. They were the pump station in
[35:06] Oxnard and then the channel for the
[35:08] county. Have any of those agencies have
[35:12] you been involved in conversations
[35:13] regarding those items since they were a
[35:15] problem the last time it flooded?
[35:18] » Yeah, I think um we've had several
[35:20] follow-up conversations with um with
[35:23] various agencies. the uh yeah, just to
[35:27] reiterate, the Channel Islands drainage
[35:29] and well, some of the other drainage as
[35:31] well are actually county um uh operated.
[35:36] Um, I think you may recall uh because
[35:40] you were the mayor at the time of uh
[35:42] that incident that um uh we had been
[35:45] told that the county uh drainage team
[35:47] would come uh do a presentation
[35:50] explaining a lot of you know what things
[35:52] that were done and things like that uh
[35:54] following the event. Um they ended up
[35:56] having a lot of staff turnover. So uh
[35:59] that never happened with that group. Um
[36:02] but uh we've had some meetings where we
[36:05] still initiated meetings to try to ha
[36:08] have the county to make sure that the
[36:10] county's aware of our concern. So we've
[36:11] had several meetings uh along those
[36:13] lines
[36:14] » And we were waiting on a report to
[36:15] actually
[36:16] » There's supposed to be a report and then
[36:17] they were going to come present it at
[36:18] council and that that ultimately did not
[36:21] happen.
[36:22] » And just a comment my husband was part
[36:24] of the rescue when that first El Nino
[36:26] came in. He remembers the water being
[36:28] waste deep in houses. So, it's if it's
[36:30] going to be worse than that, then
[36:34] » I think I recall us council being
[36:37] briefed about the the pump being
[36:40] replaced
[36:41] » And the mechanism on how it got um put
[36:45] out of service.
[36:47] » Um and I I think I even recall the
[36:49] photographs that were shown of us. So,
[36:51] » Yeah,
[36:52] » It was up there got stuck.
[36:54] » No, but we we had we had a pump station
[36:56] that Brian spoke. Is that correct?
[36:59] I I don't recall it's three years ago,
[37:01] but I know we we had um done some
[37:04] follow-up presentations on some of the
[37:05] items we had uh authority over, but
[37:08] there were some that the county was
[37:10] supposed to come back and present on as
[37:11] well.
[37:12] » Okay.
[37:14] » Did you have any comment?
[37:15] » I had comment and question. And I was in
[37:17] fact going to ask um during agenda
[37:19] review to um agendaize a discussion on
[37:22] what we can expect to happen
[37:25] um with this upcoming El Nino. Uh we
[37:29] hear it's going to be a super El Nino,
[37:30] but is it going to be super rain or it's
[37:32] going to be super drought? Um we don't
[37:35] really know, but I think we need to be
[37:36] prepared either way. And I appreciate
[37:38] the presentation that you did here
[37:40] tonight. Um James is uh very helpful.
[37:43] Um, but I think, you know, this talks
[37:45] about what the public should do. I think
[37:48] um to keep our public um reassured that
[37:52] the city's doing everything they can do.
[37:54] I I would like to hear that presentation
[37:56] on on our flood channels, what's being
[37:58] done, um where people can get sandbags
[38:01] and even how to place sandbags. And um
[38:04] FYI, the friends of the library and our
[38:08] um county library are going to be
[38:10] hosting on October 10th a community
[38:14] presentation on El Nino preparedness. So
[38:17] I think that uh and the city is going to
[38:19] be helping uh public works will be
[38:21] helping with that. So I think it's a
[38:22] good partnership and a good opportunity
[38:24] to get our our residents um better
[38:27] prepared. So more to come on that.
[38:30] » Great. Thank you. And mayor, um, we had
[38:33] one public comment regarding this
[38:35] presentation.
[38:35] » Okay.
[38:36] » Um,
[38:38] Mr. Martin Sanchez, you can go ahead and
[38:40] provide your public comment regarding
[38:42] the presentation.
[38:44] » Um, what I've heard is great. Um,
[38:48] however, you have to consider that no
[38:51] matter how much the homeowners prepare,
[38:55] it's going to overwhelm us if the main
[38:58] thing, the pump's not working.
[39:01] During the last time it flooded, I was
[39:04] personally out there and I noticed the
[39:06] big pump wasn't working. Only the 4-in
[39:10] one for the nuisance water.
[39:14] That's why I brought the issue about
[39:17] additional power. Why wasn't it working?
[39:21] I know that they have to cycle through
[39:23] it because they're not 100% cycle. And
[39:26] that's why they usually have two or
[39:28] three pumps. So there's complete cycle
[39:30] because they may be 33% cycle, 60%
[39:33] cycle, but they accumulate and there's
[39:36] at least one large pump working. A 4 in
[39:39] pump is not going to do anything. Keep
[39:41] in mind that that uh Scott Street is the
[39:44] lowest spot and it's the outfall for all
[39:47] the waterhed that comes from J Street,
[39:52] Pleasant Valley Road, Ventura, and Wimi
[39:55] Road. All the water heads there.
[40:00] All the water has to be handled by the
[40:02] pump into the creek.
[40:05] And if the pump's not working,
[40:08] how much uh no matter what you prepare,
[40:11] I had sandbags all the way around my
[40:13] house.
[40:19] » That's your comment. Thank you so much.
[40:24] And I think the um
[40:27] while you're preparing to speak, the
[40:28] council asked for an item to discuss
[40:30] city preparations to answer your
[40:32] question for a future meeting.
[40:34] » One last thing, if I may make one more
[40:36] comment.
[40:38] » Uh uh 10 seconds.
[40:41] » Okay. 10 seconds.
[40:41] » I I've lived this in this area since the
[40:44] early 60s.
[40:45] » I remember when there was nothing here.
[40:47] It was a flood plane. It was a wetland.
[40:52] » We took it over. We have to have serve
[40:54] the consequences. But at that time, the
[40:57] watershed was still existing.
[41:00] » Okay.
[41:00] » Now with all the buildings, the wershed
[41:03] is gone. So it has to go somewhere.
[41:05] » Yes. Thank you so much.
[41:06] » Yeah. So the the item that you're
[41:08] referring to would have to be a separate
[41:10] agendaized item. It can't be discussed
[41:11] on this agenda
[41:13] » By state law.
[41:14] » Yes.
[41:15] » Yes.
[41:15] » And we've discussed over the years, but
[41:17] we can schedule a future one.
[41:18] » Yeah. Someone's going to get get back to
[41:20] you. Thank you. Um so we are going to um
[41:24] we'll now recess from the city council
[41:26] meeting and call to order the housing
[41:28] authority regular meeting. The time is
[41:30] now 7:08.
[41:32] U madame clerk please take role.
[41:34] » Member GMA
[41:36] » Here.
[41:37] » Member Lopez
[41:40] » Here.
[41:40] » Member Perez
[41:41] » Here.
[41:42] » Vice Chair Hernandez
[41:43] » Here. Chair McQueen Leon
[41:45] » Here.
[41:45] » I'll let the record reflect that member
[41:46] Brown is absent.
[41:48] » Great. We will now hear public comments
[41:50] not pertaining to items on the agenda.
[41:52] Comments will be limited to three
[41:54] minutes. If you are participating via
[41:56] Zoom, please use the raise hand feature.
[41:58] This process will be the same for the
[42:00] agenda items. Madame clerk, are there
[42:02] any public comments?
[42:03] » No public comments.
[42:05] » Great. We'll now move to the housing
[42:07] authority consent calendar. Um, madame
[42:10] clerk, are there any public comments?
[42:13] So, I did that already.
[42:14] » No public comments for the consent
[42:16] calendar.
[42:16] » Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So, these
[42:19] items in the consent calendar will be
[42:21] approved in one motion unless an
[42:22] authority member would like to request
[42:24] to remove an item from the agenda. Any
[42:27] items to be removed?
[42:28] » I'd like to pull item three.
[42:30] » Item three.
[42:33] Anyone else?
[42:36] If not, is there a a motion and a second
[42:40] for items one and two?
[42:42] » Move to approve items one and two.
[42:44] » Second.
[42:46] Um, can we get a roll call, please?
[42:48] » All in favor?
[42:49] » I.
[42:50] » All opposed. Hearing none. Motion passes
[42:52] unanimously.
[42:53] » Great. Uh, Council Member Lopez, you can
[42:55] go ahead and talk about
[42:56] » Yeah. So,
[42:59] there there's um in in the
[43:02] dispersements. Um, there is a uh a
[43:05] catchall vendor account and it's um
[43:08] 99999
[43:10] and it's it's all it's all Willbrook.
[43:14] Um, is that like a catchall
[43:17] uh account number?
[43:22] » Can you say what page you're on?
[43:26] » Three starts at threeish
[43:31] of the
[43:34] dispersement sheet.
[43:39] » So you look at the vendor numbers.
[43:41] » What page was that? What did you say?
[43:43] » It just starts number three on the
[43:44] dispers dispersement sheet
[43:47] » For the housing.
[43:48] » Okay. It'll say like Willowbrook
[43:52] and they're just they're like 59s and
[43:55] some is that like a catchall number
[43:58] because what I noticed in the other
[43:59] dispersements
[44:01] it it's uh it's they're uh
[44:05] they're all nines as well for other
[44:08] other things.
[44:14] Yeah. Which um column? I see numbers
[44:18] ending in 524.
[44:19] » They're vendor numbers.
[44:20] » Uh it's on page 27
[44:23] of 74
[44:28] and it's the vendor number
[44:31] to the left
[44:35] of the page.
[44:37] » Okay.
[44:39] Yeah, I believe those are um if there
[44:41] isn't
[44:43] so these are all uh all these credits
[44:45] that show are like re uh refunds or uh
[44:48] and so I think it's if it's not a vendor
[44:50] with with a vendor number but a like a
[44:52] refund to a customer. Yeah. Then they're
[44:55] all categorized as 999999.
[44:58] » Okay. Just wanted to make sure that's
[45:01] » That that that's what I thought it was.
[45:03] » Yeah. I'll confirm that and I'll let
[45:06] everybody know if if uh there's some
[45:08] other meaning to it, but I don't believe
[45:10] so.
[45:12] » Okay.
[45:15] » All right. That's all I got.
[45:17] » Okay. Can I get a motion and a second
[45:19] for item number three?
[45:22] » Second.
[45:23] » Okay. Um Madam Cler,
[45:25] » All in favor?
[45:26] » I
[45:27] » I.
[45:27] » All opposed?
[45:29] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.
[45:32] » Okay. So, are there any um members any
[45:36] authority members uh have any reports or
[45:38] comments to make
[45:40] » This time?
[45:42] » No.
[45:43] » Go ahead.
[45:44] » Um
[45:45] I I received a letter from a resident of
[45:49] Mar Vista and uh I I forwarded the
[45:53] letter to a city manager to send over to
[45:56] Housing Inc. And uh I was hoping that we
[45:59] could be presented in the future with
[46:04] how the voucher program is administered.
[46:08] Um because I don't have any knowledge of
[46:11] how it's administered. I just know that
[46:13] we do have a voucher program and and I'm
[46:15] kind of vague on how it works. So um
[46:18] maybe in the future we could have that.
[46:22] what I'll do um
[46:25] I think the answer sort of depends and I
[46:27] think the first question is uh if it's
[46:29] an HHI duty and responsibility so I have
[46:32] forwarded it to um HHI to to ask for
[46:36] their input on it and um uh if it's not
[46:40] then it would still be a city council
[46:42] responsibility so then we could have a
[46:44] future item on on that but uh I
[46:47] forwarded it uh earlier today so I don't
[46:49] know the answer to that yet so Okay,
[46:51] thank you.
[46:52] » Any other comments? Okay, let's move on
[46:55] to the next item. Uh, so the Port Wine
[46:58] Housing Authority regular meeting is
[47:00] adjourned. The next regular meeting is
[47:02] scheduled for Monday, October the 5th at
[47:05] 6:30. We will now reconvene to the city
[47:08] council regular meeting. The time is
[47:10] 7:14.
[47:12] And we will now move to the city
[47:14] council's consent calendar. Uh before we
[47:17] do that, madame clerk, do we have any
[47:18] public comments related to the uh
[47:21] consent calendar?
[47:22] » No public comments for city council
[47:23] consent.
[47:24] » Okay.
[47:26] So, these items will be approved in one
[47:29] motion unless a council member would
[47:30] like to pull an item. Are there any
[47:32] items uh that you would like to request
[47:34] to be pulled from the consent calendar?
[47:37] » I have item four.
[47:41] » Item four
[47:42] » And item six. and six.
[47:47] Okay. Anyone else?
[47:48] » I was going to ask for item five to be
[47:50] pulled for just a quick question and
[47:52] also six.
[47:53] » Okay, great. Anyone else?
[47:56] Okay. Um, so can we can I get a motion
[48:00] and a second for items one through
[48:02] three?
[48:03] » Move to approve items one, two, three.
[48:06] » Second.
[48:07] » Great. Madam clerk, please make a role.
[48:08] » All in favor?
[48:10] » I.
[48:10] » All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes
[48:12] unanimously. Great. Thank you. Uh,
[48:14] Council Member Lopez, do you have any
[48:16] What do you have for number four?
[48:18] » Yeah. So, I was looking at the conflict
[48:22] of interests for the bianual review and
[48:24] adoption
[48:26] on page one of 15.
[48:29] Um, there's a modification to position
[48:31] title. Uh, all the way at the bottom,
[48:34] the confidential analysts management
[48:38] analyst disclosure category one of five
[48:40] through nine.
[48:42] Um,
[48:45] but when you read the resolution, it
[48:48] states that that the disclosures are one
[48:51] and two in on page five of 15. So, I I
[48:56] just wanted to make sure that we
[48:58] annotated this, right?
[49:02] Yeah. And I would say the staff report
[49:06] that shows five and nine is incorrect.
[49:09] Uh, that's a typo. And um I'm guessing
[49:12] that was probably the prior categories
[49:15] uh and that one and two are were the
[49:18] intended changes. So um the idea being
[49:23] uh that uh similar to the senior planner
[49:26] position that was also created, but the
[49:28] management analyst and the senior
[49:29] planner work on very similar projects
[49:32] including with developers and things
[49:33] like that. And so um the highest levels
[49:36] of disclosure category level one and two
[49:39] would be appropriate for for those. So
[49:43] um so we'd recommend adopting the uh
[49:48] code and the resolution. Uh and we uh
[49:52] the the staff report has the typo.
[49:56] » Okay. So, will that change um the
[50:00] amendment checklist
[50:02] since we're revising disclosure
[50:04] categories because it's unchecked. So,
[50:07] » That that won't uh amend the checklist
[50:10] because the disclosure categories from
[50:12] the previous um conflict of interest
[50:14] code were one and two.
[50:16] » Okay.
[50:16] » So, they'll stay the same.
[50:17] » Got it.
[50:19] » That's all I got.
[50:20] » Thank you. Uh if no one else have any
[50:23] questions, um is there a motion and a
[50:25] second to approve item number four?
[50:28] » So move
[50:29] » Second.
[50:32] » All in favor?
[50:33] » I.
[50:34] » All oppose hearing. None. Motion passes
[50:36] unanimously.
[50:38] » Okay. Um mayor pro tip. Number five.
[50:42] » Item number five was approved coast snap
[50:44] cradle purchase and installation on the
[50:48] pier. Um I know it's a cost item. It's
[50:52] um the cost to our city is approximately
[50:55] $500. But I think this is incredibly
[50:58] exciting to me. It's I think it's a
[51:00] wonderful thing that's going to happen
[51:02] um for our residents to get involved in
[51:06] uh photographing our coastline and
[51:09] helping us track the movement of our
[51:11] coastline. And I'm just curious um
[51:14] James, Mr. City Manager, if you could
[51:16] just elaborate a little bit about how
[51:17] this came about
[51:19] » And whether or not we'll be informing
[51:21] our our residents about um these um
[51:24] these cradle uh snaps appearing on our
[51:29] beach.
[51:30] » For sure. Thank you. Yeah, I think it
[51:32] was um roughly a year ago uh when the
[51:35] city had partnered with Surf Rider to on
[51:39] the dune restoration project which is
[51:42] still ongoing and I see volunteers out
[51:44] uh frequently working on uh trying to
[51:47] restore the dunes out at Wayne Beach.
[51:48] So, if anybody watching hasn't been out
[51:50] there and seen the work going on, it's
[51:52] good to check out. But um when we were
[51:55] working on that with the surf riders, a
[51:57] couple of the surf rider members came
[51:58] forward and said, you know, the other
[52:00] thing that would be really helpful would
[52:01] be uh this co-nap cradle with the idea
[52:04] that it is a tool that helps the public
[52:07] help us document the movement of sand on
[52:10] the beach. Um and so uh we were
[52:14] interested in that but then we also kind
[52:16] of it got our wheels turning for
[52:19] everybody knows our dredge project is
[52:21] really important and how that sand
[52:22] moves. So then we talked to them about
[52:24] well could we do that and actually sort
[52:26] of tweak it to be focused on the dredge
[52:28] and and they were supportive of that. So
[52:31] so alto together I think um it's just a
[52:34] good result of that partnership with
[52:35] surf rider on the dune restoration. So,
[52:38] uh, good, like you said, good
[52:39] opportunity for public awareness and
[52:42] yes, uh, once it's approved and
[52:43] installed, we plan to do a lot of, uh,
[52:46] PR around telling people what it is and
[52:49] how they can help, uh, do that. So,
[52:51] we'll we'll plan for that.
[52:53] » It's a great idea. Thank you so much for
[52:55] bringing this to the before council.
[52:57] » Great. Thank you, Council Member Gab.
[52:59] » Yeah. Um, it's funny when you go out
[53:01] there on a daily basis and particularly
[53:04] when you transition from south swells to
[53:07] north swells, there's a huge difference
[53:09] in the amount of sand that's moving in.
[53:11] And as when James and I walk the pier,
[53:14] we always like see where the sand is and
[53:16] kind of make a mental note. And then
[53:18] when we come back the next time and
[53:19] inevitably the sand is either moved back
[53:22] or moved forward and that's basically by
[53:24] the water line. So, uh, yeah, this is
[53:26] good stuff. and uh really excited to to
[53:29] be able to share
[53:32] the differences between a north and a
[53:34] south swell.
[53:36] » Great.
[53:36] » I I have a question.
[53:38] » So, and I read through it. Great. Which
[53:40] is really great. Um but who's
[53:47] who's doing the like who's doing the
[53:48] surveys on this? Like is is it going to
[53:51] somebody?
[53:52] » Yeah. So, it's uh Coast Snap. Coast Snap
[53:56] has a uh program where the uh data is
[54:00] collected and and um uh posted on a page
[54:05] 9 of1. It shows their uh signage
[54:08] template and sort of how coap works and
[54:10] the co-nap website works. But we had
[54:13] talked to them about also, you know, we
[54:14] tal we talked to them about the dredge
[54:16] and talked to them about why we were
[54:19] really interested in it and, you know,
[54:20] would we be able to partner with them
[54:22] and use that data and then they
[54:23] indicated we could. So So that's
[54:25] something we
[54:26] » Do. So the day we install this is um who
[54:30] who's going to like you know what's the
[54:34] first photo that we're you know like
[54:35] that's they're going to collect.
[54:37] » Yeah. Well, might be us out there doing
[54:41] the ribbon cutting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We
[54:42] probably know it's going to be
[54:44] » It. It'll kind of be like what the
[54:45] baseline is. I guess what I'm trying to
[54:47] tell when I'm trying.
[54:47] » Yeah. So, it'll, you know, the idea is
[54:49] um we install it and you know, the hope
[54:52] is that every day you have a couple
[54:54] people go out and stop by and get
[54:56] interested and take pictures. And so, it
[54:58] starts with with that installation. We
[55:00] It's not the only thing we're doing
[55:02] because we also have worked on um uh we
[55:05] now have the ability to do some aerial
[55:08] aerial photographs. So, we're doing
[55:10] those like monthly, too. But it's it's
[55:13] just more data. You know, from the
[55:15] monthly photograph, you can see what's
[55:17] changed. And we're hoping with this, you
[55:18] literally can tell where it's moving and
[55:21] what's happening.
[55:22] » Last question is, uh,
[55:25] I'm It's going to be on the pier.
[55:27] » Yeah.
[55:28] » And is there any legal language to say
[55:31] if their phone drops in the water?
[55:35] » Use at your own risk.
[55:37] » Air at your own risk. I um I think we'll
[55:41] try to install it in a location where it
[55:44] doesn't fall off the side of the pier,
[55:46] but um if if if it ends up because it is
[55:49] the challenge is it has to be in the
[55:51] right spot to get the right photo. So if
[55:53] it ends up where that's the case, we'll
[55:55] put some signage up to uh use at your
[55:57] own risk.
[55:59] » Got it. That's all I got. Thanks.
[56:01] » Okay. So, let's let's uh Is there a
[56:03] motion and a second to approve number
[56:05] five? I make the motion to approve
[56:07] number five.
[56:09] » Second.
[56:12] » All in favor?
[56:13] » I.
[56:14] » All opposed.
[56:15] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.
[56:18] » Okay. We'll move to item number six.
[56:19] Soul source purchase of ultra ultraflow
[56:22] arch pipe from contact engineer
[56:25] solutions for the Pearson Avenue and 8th
[56:27] Street storm drain replacement.
[56:29] » Um your questions. So this this
[56:32] particular item had a lot of timelines
[56:36] associated with it. Um so if
[56:39] manufacturing or shipping go past
[56:41] October 9th, uh contact can invoke an 8%
[56:45] increase, which is roughly $27,000,
[56:48] which would consume about the entire 10%
[56:50] contingency before even the pipe
[56:52] arrives. So uh the staff report states 8
[56:56] to 10 weeks. Um
[57:02] Are we are we going to sole purchase
[57:04] this Evan knowing that we're probably
[57:06] going to go into that
[57:09] that lead time issue
[57:12] » And conversations good evening mayor
[57:14] mayor council members of the audience um
[57:17] we've been in conversation with them
[57:19] already they they give that as a
[57:21] standard to get it but they don't
[57:24] believe it will even take that long to
[57:26] get that for our project. So, um there
[57:30] is the potential um but we don't believe
[57:34] that it's it's going to be something
[57:36] that is going to really impact that.
[57:41] » And with the with with everything now um
[57:44] it's not uh as it was in the past where
[57:48] a lot of uh companies kept stock on
[57:51] hand. Now a lot of times they don't keep
[57:53] anything until orders are coming in.
[57:55] However, they do have some of this
[57:56] available already. So,
[57:58] » Okay. And then there's uh 3,500 linear
[58:02] square feet of heavy arc pipe.
[58:06] Where are we putting this?
[58:08] » It's going to go down uh Pearson to 8th
[58:12] Street and make a right, go down uh 8th
[58:17] Street to McKon, make a left there by
[58:19] the school, and then a short piece on
[58:22] Eighth Place.
[58:23] » No, no. But where are we going to stage
[58:25] it while we're waiting on the manu?
[58:27] because we haven't even selected uh
[58:29] someone to put it in.
[58:32] » Oh. Um our thought was we would be
[58:34] staging it over at the by the port uh in
[58:37] the
[58:38] » At our Market Street
[58:39] » Market Street location
[58:41] » Because we're already taking heat for
[58:43] using that as a staging area, right? I
[58:47] let me answer it a little uh broadly,
[58:49] but I think we were getting uh
[58:52] complaints when it wasn't being it
[58:56] wasn't just the staging. It was other
[58:58] debris and things there and we've been
[59:00] cleaning it up. But we did receive a
[59:02] recent complaint, I would say, more
[59:04] focused on wanting to know what the
[59:06] long-term plan is. But in the meantime,
[59:08] because there isn't anything that can
[59:10] happen to that site in the next three
[59:11] months. So, I think using it as a
[59:12] staging for a critical storm drain
[59:15] project would be, you know, defensible.
[59:18] Defensible.
[59:19] » And then I assume we're going to as we
[59:23] receive this, we're going to inspect it
[59:25] prior to putting it there because what I
[59:29] think what I'm worried about right now
[59:30] is we're going to we're going to have
[59:32] this, no one's going to look at it. we
[59:33] get ready to install it and there's a
[59:35] crack and then you know the person the
[59:38] contractor who's who we contract to put
[59:41] this in they're going to be no you this
[59:43] is crack I didn't do this you guys did
[59:45] this and there's going to be some
[59:47] fingerpointing with this type of project
[59:51] um well the our intent is well we're
[59:54] concerned about vandalism as well so um
[59:57] we'll fence it and try and protect it
[1:00:00] obviously we can't 100% guarantee that
[1:00:03] somebody's not going to get into it. Um,
[1:00:05] but since it is a steel pipe, too. Um,
[1:00:10] it won't necessarily the worry isn't
[1:00:12] about cracking, but it's more about if
[1:00:13] somebody were to take something and go
[1:00:15] and bash it because it's got a very
[1:00:17] particular shape. So, then it would roll
[1:00:19] the edges of the pipe down, which would
[1:00:22] make it more difficult to join. But, um,
[1:00:25] again, we they'd have to do something
[1:00:28] really hard in order to get it. It's
[1:00:29] very thick gauge pipe. So, so ho how
[1:00:32] soon do you think uh once we take
[1:00:34] custody of this having a contract to get
[1:00:36] it installed?
[1:00:37] » We're already working on that as well.
[1:00:39] So, we're hoping that the timing will
[1:00:41] all be there so we have a date set. So,
[1:00:43] when we have the pipe come in when we
[1:00:45] know that we'll know in advance of when
[1:00:47] it's going to be shipped out, then we
[1:00:48] can set that
[1:00:49] » Um with the contractor to start
[1:00:51] immediately. So the Can you clarify the
[1:00:55] 675 foot gap that uh that's on North 8th
[1:01:00] Street?
[1:01:00] » Yes, that was a section that had been
[1:01:02] lined um previously. So it had a liner
[1:01:06] put in it because it had a it had a
[1:01:07] problem previous. So that has a liner in
[1:01:09] that. So rather than removing it because
[1:01:12] it's already been uh addressed with
[1:01:15] that, we skipped that section and we're
[1:01:19] we'll be attaching to each side of that.
[1:01:21] Got it. All right. Thank you. That's all
[1:01:23] I got.
[1:01:24] » But you have any questions?
[1:01:25] » I did. Um
[1:01:28] » I'm sorry. I told you. Go ahead.
[1:01:31] » I'm just um thinking about everything we
[1:01:33] talked about, we have a potential big
[1:01:36] heavy rain season. Um what if we're so
[1:01:39] unlucky that as you begin to try and set
[1:01:42] this pipe that we're in the middle of a
[1:01:43] major storm? What happens?
[1:01:46] um we won't be digging it all up at
[1:01:49] once, but even if it has started, then
[1:01:51] we can uh go ahead and put bypasses in
[1:01:54] in order to be able to go around while
[1:01:56] that if an event were to be happening.
[1:01:58] We're hoping that we can get this all
[1:02:00] done. It's it's a very shallow pipe,
[1:02:03] shallow in depth. So, um, that's one
[1:02:06] particular reason why we did this
[1:02:08] because of the
[1:02:11] design of the pipe allows us to put it
[1:02:13] in because it's literally right
[1:02:15] underneath the street. So, um, from that
[1:02:19] end, because it's not a deep trench, um,
[1:02:22] it the work will be able to go much
[1:02:24] quicker than you would expect on a on
[1:02:27] something.
[1:02:27] » So, will will this uh um increase the
[1:02:31] flow rate of that section? it it's not
[1:02:34] going to increase the flow rate. It's
[1:02:36] going to keep the same characteristics
[1:02:38] that it was designed for. Um, but it'll
[1:02:42] be new. And we've had issues with
[1:02:44] sections of the pipe already. So, uh, we
[1:02:46] wanted to make sure we got this because
[1:02:48] this from Bryce Canyon between Ventura
[1:02:53] and Jay essentially all the way down
[1:02:56] that everything up there runs surface
[1:02:59] flow until it gets to Pearson and then
[1:03:01] Pearson is the first It has to get into
[1:03:04] catch basins and then get into the pipe
[1:03:06] underground and go. But then all of that
[1:03:09] runs to the Bubbling Springs
[1:03:12] uh creek which then is dependent upon
[1:03:15] the county's flood control station
[1:03:17] operating properly in order to make sure
[1:03:19] that water keeps moving.
[1:03:22] And
[1:03:23] » If I could just point out because yes,
[1:03:26] like there, you know, there's all these
[1:03:27] concerns, but earlier we had talked
[1:03:29] about how we've prioritized storm drain
[1:03:32] related projects to really try to do
[1:03:34] what we can to try to, you know, prepare
[1:03:37] as much as we can. So, um, you know, I
[1:03:40] want to thank the public works
[1:03:41] department for trying to make sure to
[1:03:43] get this done this year ahead of, you
[1:03:45] know, any potential future weather. So,
[1:03:48] » Thanks Tim.
[1:03:50] » Yeah, thank you. So, um I had a a number
[1:03:53] of questions, but I think they've been
[1:03:54] answered. The one question um that I did
[1:03:57] want to ask was what caught my eye here
[1:03:59] is that you know the existing storm
[1:04:02] train drain pipe uh was originally in
[1:04:05] installed in the late7s. I'm imagine we
[1:04:09] have a lot of infrastructure that um was
[1:04:12] built and constructed in in those years.
[1:04:14] What does how does the city budget for m
[1:04:17] maintenance and replacement of our um of
[1:04:21] our pipelines and infrastructure? How do
[1:04:24] we we budget for that or prepare for
[1:04:26] that?
[1:04:26] » Yeah, it's been part of uh we've done
[1:04:28] some of those analyses over the last few
[1:04:30] years and started to try to prepare for
[1:04:32] like the conversation for upcoming uh
[1:04:36] needing to build these into future
[1:04:37] budgets. um they a lot of our
[1:04:41] infrastructure is from that period 60s7s
[1:04:45] which means it's now 50 60 years old
[1:04:49] which means it's now time to replace so
[1:04:52] so um we're we've been working on trying
[1:04:54] to build those things into the budget
[1:04:56] it's you know the council knows I don't
[1:04:58] need to repeat it but it's it's a
[1:05:00] challenge because I think um it is you
[1:05:02] know we're trying to budget for these
[1:05:04] now at a time where we're having
[1:05:06] decreased revenues uh and so it's just,
[1:05:08] you know, challenge on top of challenge.
[1:05:10] But it's part of what we said is we need
[1:05:12] to know the true cost of what it's going
[1:05:15] to take to maintain all these things to
[1:05:17] then be able to know what our true
[1:05:19] budget is, you know. So, so that's all
[1:05:22] um in the works, but um uh there are
[1:05:27] there are more projects uh where we have
[1:05:31] 50 year old infrastructure that we're
[1:05:32] going to have to deal with soon. Yeah.
[1:05:34] And uh I think uh we did the water
[1:05:36] presentation earlier with our you know
[1:05:38] um master plan that has you know several
[1:05:41] million dollars in water projects and I
[1:05:43] think um starting to build the uh storm
[1:05:46] drain or uh I'm sorry the wastewater uh
[1:05:49] uh lines in as well is is another key
[1:05:52] part of it. But the costs will there are
[1:05:55] costs out there still that we need to
[1:05:56] start planning for. So
[1:05:59] » Thank you. That's all I had. Thank you.
[1:06:01] » I just have one question. And so, um, we
[1:06:04] talked about this before, James. And so,
[1:06:06] when we get to items that are, um, are,
[1:06:10] uh, out of our general fund and we have
[1:06:12] not, they were not, uh, initially part
[1:06:16] of the budget. You will be telling us
[1:06:17] that, right?
[1:06:18] » Yes. And, uh, the good, you know, good
[1:06:21] news is that water and wastewater
[1:06:24] typically aren't general fund. Okay. Um
[1:06:27] so um you know so it's not necessarily
[1:06:31] you know competition with the other
[1:06:32] general fund items we want to do but I
[1:06:35] think um we're also working right now uh
[1:06:38] on our uh rate study utility rate study
[1:06:41] and I think that all of these we're
[1:06:43] trying to build as much as we can of
[1:06:44] these CIPs into those rates so that we
[1:06:47] know what actually has to be done to
[1:06:49] maintain all the systems uh into the
[1:06:52] future.
[1:06:54] Yeah. So, isn't this part of our
[1:06:56] drainage district?
[1:06:59] » It's part of our wastewater fund. Fred
[1:07:02] might know off hand.
[1:07:04] » The
[1:07:06] um drainage district itself isn't the
[1:07:11] standard storm drain pipe system. It's
[1:07:14] meant for the soft bottom portions of
[1:07:18] the channel
[1:07:19] » Bubbling springs.
[1:07:19] » Yes. So that's what it's for.
[1:07:22] » Got it.
[1:07:22] » And that's Oxards, right?
[1:07:24] » No, that's
[1:07:26] » There's a couple of sections that make
[1:07:27] under cross the bubbling springs is the
[1:07:30] cities.
[1:07:31] » Um there are a couple of portions that
[1:07:33] pass under um the streets that go over
[1:07:37] that the
[1:07:39] watershed protection district have
[1:07:42] jurisdiction over. So if something were
[1:07:43] to happen to these the underpasses, they
[1:07:46] have responsibility for those, but the
[1:07:48] rest of it is ours.
[1:07:50] » Yeah. I had a discussion with the
[1:07:51] library director last week and she
[1:07:53] mentioned something along Bubbling
[1:07:55] Springs belonging to Oxnar and I thought
[1:07:56] that was really weird. I had never heard
[1:07:58] that before.
[1:07:59] » I guess that's not correct.
[1:08:01] » No.
[1:08:01] » Okay, great.
[1:08:04] » There's a map in here and there's a
[1:08:05] little faint red line. Can you tell us
[1:08:07] what that faint red line goes?
[1:08:10] » That's the drainage.
[1:08:11] » Yes. Right.
[1:08:12] » That's where it currently runs. And
[1:08:14] we're just going to be replacing in the
[1:08:15] exact same place.
[1:08:17] » That that whole distance.
[1:08:18] » Yes. Except for where there's that
[1:08:20] separation that council member Lopez
[1:08:23] mentioned where it's already been lined
[1:08:25] in the past. We're skipping that
[1:08:27] section. So you see the red line going,
[1:08:28] it stops, and then it picks up down
[1:08:30] further.
[1:08:32] » That blank spot where there's no red
[1:08:33] line is the portion that we're not going
[1:08:36] to be replacing.
[1:08:40] » So this is a lot. more
[1:08:44] length than I thought.
[1:08:46] » It's a big project.
[1:08:47] » Yeah,
[1:08:47] » It's a big project.
[1:08:49] » Any other questions?
[1:08:52] » No. Okay. Um, can I get a motion and a
[1:08:55] second for item number six? Mo
[1:08:56] » Move to approve item number six.
[1:08:59] » Second,
[1:09:00] » Madam Clerk.
[1:09:01] » All in favor?
[1:09:03] » I.
[1:09:03] » All opposed?
[1:09:05] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.
[1:09:07] » Uh, thank you, Mr. Camaro. Appreciate
[1:09:09] I'm so glad we got that cleared up. When
[1:09:10] we first started talking about this, I
[1:09:12] thought we were talking about parking
[1:09:13] and I was so confused.
[1:09:15] » I'm like, does a pipe mean anything for
[1:09:18] parking?
[1:09:19] » Okay, so we're going to move to item
[1:09:20] number seven. Uh, consider approval of
[1:09:22] coastal development permit number CDP
[1:09:25] uh 2026-1
[1:09:27] and establishment of updated uh beach
[1:09:30] parking fees for Wanimi Beach Park.
[1:09:32] Madame Clerk, do we have proof of
[1:09:34] publication as required by law and a
[1:09:36] complete file of reports and exhibits?
[1:09:38] Yes, Madame Mayor.
[1:09:39] » Great. Will staff please present the
[1:09:41] report?
[1:09:41] » Yes, thank you.
[1:09:43] » There's a lot of uh technical jargon in
[1:09:45] this because um the California Coastal
[1:09:49] Commission has a lot of interest in
[1:09:51] making sure that beaches are accessible
[1:09:53] to the public. So, we have to go through
[1:09:55] a whole coastal commission process when
[1:09:57] we look at something like this. Um but
[1:10:00] uh so there's all that jargon in there,
[1:10:02] but really in short, what we're trying
[1:10:04] to do is we're recommending to the
[1:10:06] council that we finally increase
[1:10:08] increase our beach parking fees after I
[1:10:12] think it's been about 20 years or so, uh
[1:10:15] 18 years. Um so uh just to get that out
[1:10:19] of the way. Um, so just some background
[1:10:22] in history, uh, paid parking at Waynei
[1:10:25] Beach was initially authorized, uh,
[1:10:27] under a coastal development permit, uh,
[1:10:30] uh, in 1981.
[1:10:32] The last adjustment to the rates for,
[1:10:35] uh, beach parking was on August 6, 2008.
[1:10:40] So almost uh, almost 18 years to the
[1:10:43] date, pretty close. Um the uh 2008
[1:10:47] action increased hourly parking from at
[1:10:50] at that time from $1 to $2 an hour and
[1:10:52] all day parking from $5 to $8 per hour.
[1:10:56] Um the uh uh council the city had
[1:11:02] previously created a resident annual
[1:11:04] pass in 2002
[1:11:06] um uh and then a non-resident annual
[1:11:09] pass in 2008 and so those haven't been
[1:11:12] changed either.
[1:11:14] Uh so uh that means most of the uh rates
[1:11:19] have not changed over the last 18 years.
[1:11:21] Um we want to remind everybody that the
[1:11:24] uh beach parking fees are intended to
[1:11:26] help support beach operations,
[1:11:27] maintenance, repairs, and capital
[1:11:29] improvements. Uh ironically um people
[1:11:32] may have noticed we were out there uh
[1:11:34] our public works team was uh paving and
[1:11:37] restriping parking lots out at the
[1:11:39] beach. So, you know, those types of
[1:11:41] items are um paid for with these fees.
[1:11:45] And so, um uh we wanted to highlight the
[1:11:49] uh parking areas. So, where you can see
[1:11:51] the the teal letter P uh throughout
[1:11:55] there are the paid parking areas,
[1:11:56] parking lot A, B, C, E, and then in some
[1:11:59] of the um along Surfside Drive. Um, we
[1:12:04] also uh uh I think when we present our
[1:12:08] uh proposed parking increase to the
[1:12:09] coastal commission, there's typically a
[1:12:11] concern about having options for
[1:12:13] different levels of affordability. So,
[1:12:15] we have daily uh passes, but we also
[1:12:17] have the hourly pass, which is not
[1:12:19] always um typical in other cities to
[1:12:22] ensure that people have the ability to
[1:12:23] just drop in. But uh this map also shows
[1:12:26] that um there's also significant um
[1:12:30] areas still where somebody could park
[1:12:31] for one hour for free uh if they're
[1:12:34] further away from the beach. Uh but uh
[1:12:36] in other words, there's still plenty of
[1:12:38] public uh plenty of options for public
[1:12:40] access to our beach.
[1:12:43] Um the uh as proposed uh because it
[1:12:48] hasn't been uh or because it's been 18
[1:12:50] years since the last time the fees were
[1:12:52] increased, we did not um uh want to
[1:12:56] recommend adjusting completely for
[1:12:59] inflation and and seeing a larger
[1:13:01] increase than I think people would have
[1:13:03] anticipated. So, we propose um a uh
[1:13:07] increase to the hourly and all day
[1:13:08] parking rates of 25% which is pretty
[1:13:11] comparable to uh neighboring cities and
[1:13:13] we'll get we'll get to that or
[1:13:14] neighboring beaches. Um we also since
[1:13:17] the uh annual passes have haven't really
[1:13:20] been modified in the past, we
[1:13:21] recommended uh changing those but by a
[1:13:23] discounted 20% instead of 25 because we
[1:13:26] still want to encourage people to buy an
[1:13:28] annual pass and come visit our beach
[1:13:30] more often.
[1:13:32] uh and so um that would maintain the uh
[1:13:36] discount for uh the resident annual
[1:13:38] passes as well. So what that looks like
[1:13:41] you can see in the chart is currently
[1:13:43] today uh parking is $2 per hour, $8 per
[1:13:48] day or $50 for a resident annual pass or
[1:13:51] $100 for a non-resident annual pass. And
[1:13:54] so we're recommending modifying to 250
[1:13:57] an hour, $10 for the all day pass, uh
[1:14:01] $60 for the resident pass, and $120 for
[1:14:04] the non-resident pass.
[1:14:08] Um so obviously one question we get
[1:14:11] often is why would we need to increase
[1:14:13] it? And uh really it just comes down to
[1:14:15] the all the costs to uh maintain the the
[1:14:18] parking lots, but also the beach and the
[1:14:20] and the uh amenities we have at the
[1:14:22] beach. are increasing significantly.
[1:14:26] Um and so uh just we just completed some
[1:14:29] recent resurfacing work and it was
[1:14:32] significant uh cost. So um the uh
[1:14:36] parking lot or the parking fees would
[1:14:38] need to be increased to help balance
[1:14:40] those increase in costs. Um
[1:14:44] and uh we also confirmed that our
[1:14:47] existing parking machines can be updated
[1:14:49] to these new figures without the need to
[1:14:51] purchase additional or new equipment or
[1:14:54] other other items. Um and then just to
[1:14:57] look at uh we tried to also always keep
[1:15:00] in mind our you know uh nearby beaches
[1:15:03] and what those look like. I would say um
[1:15:06] that we were uh there's a couple of
[1:15:09] beaches and typically it's the beaches
[1:15:11] that don't have real like the amenities
[1:15:14] will have free parking or free street
[1:15:16] parking.
[1:15:17] Um probably one exception I think Silver
[1:15:19] Strand has amenities but a small parking
[1:15:22] lot and I think they have free parking
[1:15:24] but it's always full because it's a very
[1:15:25] small parking lot. Um and so uh those
[1:15:29] are the ones that are less than us. Uh
[1:15:32] but I would say other than that, most of
[1:15:34] the beaches in the area have increased
[1:15:35] to a higher cost uh at least in some
[1:15:38] way, whether it's the daily rate or the
[1:15:40] hourly rate. And so uh I think we're
[1:15:42] pretty middle of the pack. And then what
[1:15:44] what we're proposing being um minor
[1:15:47] increases, we're we kind of stay middle
[1:15:49] of the pack. Um and uh I would argue
[1:15:53] that with the amenities that we have
[1:15:55] being higher level, I would argue are
[1:15:57] higher level amenities than than other
[1:15:59] beaches in this uh price range
[1:16:00] typically. So,
[1:16:03] um,
[1:16:06] and, uh, we just wanted to show again,
[1:16:08] we mentioned that we didn't propose
[1:16:10] increasing it to in like to match
[1:16:12] inflation because we, um, uh, thought
[1:16:15] that that might be sort of sticker
[1:16:17] shock. Um, if we were to adjust for
[1:16:19] inflation, this chart shows that the
[1:16:21] hourly rate would be increased to $35,
[1:16:25] the all day rate would be over $12, and
[1:16:27] the annual uh rate rates would increase
[1:16:31] uh you know almost uh 50% from their
[1:16:33] current rates. Um but uh we didn't
[1:16:39] propose that and I just also want to
[1:16:41] note one reason we didn't propose that
[1:16:43] is also because typically the coastal
[1:16:44] commission also because their goal is to
[1:16:47] make sure that everybody has access to
[1:16:49] the beach they usually have a
[1:16:51] reasonableness standard. So we tried to
[1:16:53] kind of model ours after other increases
[1:16:56] that have been approved. Um and so uh as
[1:17:00] mentioned we we proposed not increasing
[1:17:02] it to that level.
[1:17:05] Um, and then what would this ultimately
[1:17:07] mean for the city? Um, just to give an
[1:17:09] example, uh, currently, uh, over the
[1:17:13] last three years, the beach parking
[1:17:15] generates about $300,000 a year. Uh,
[1:17:18] with these increases, it would likely
[1:17:21] generate increase to about four just
[1:17:24] under $400,000 a year. So, it's a good
[1:17:26] increase to cover some of the additional
[1:17:28] costs out at the beach, uh, which is
[1:17:30] really our goal. But um obviously we're
[1:17:33] trying to show that we're not trying to,
[1:17:35] you know, pass on fees to subsidize
[1:17:37] other costs. It really is related to the
[1:17:40] costs that we u are paying to to
[1:17:43] maintain the beach and the amenities in
[1:17:45] the parking at the beach.
[1:17:48] Um and as I mentioned a minute ago, uh
[1:17:51] one of the goals of the coastal
[1:17:52] commission is maintaining public coastal
[1:17:53] access. And so this would do so. And we
[1:17:56] wanted to highlight that free park free
[1:17:58] public street parking is still
[1:18:00] available. City walking and bicycling
[1:18:02] access is still available and the
[1:18:04] bubbling springs corridor still is
[1:18:07] accessible. Uh also there's still Gold
[1:18:09] Coast Transit District stops near the
[1:18:11] beach. So uh there's plenty of free or
[1:18:14] lower cost options to visit the beach.
[1:18:17] And then uh if somebody does want to
[1:18:19] utilize paid parking, I think our costs
[1:18:21] are still reasonable compared to
[1:18:23] neighboring beaches. So with that, like
[1:18:26] I said, there's some extra jargon uh
[1:18:29] that we don't typically have related to
[1:18:31] the coastal commission and the coastal
[1:18:33] review. So we recommend uh approving
[1:18:35] this and then that would uh our next
[1:18:38] step after that would be to then work
[1:18:40] with coastal commission to um confirm
[1:18:42] that it's u approved uh by coastal
[1:18:45] commission and uh
[1:18:49] there's a uh 10-day appeal period that
[1:18:52] coastal commission has has uh if it's
[1:18:55] not appealed the rates would take effect
[1:18:57] at the end of that 10day appeal period.
[1:19:00] Um, so, uh, we would announce, you know,
[1:19:03] we we would make sure to announce that
[1:19:05] and publicize it, uh, uh, before we
[1:19:08] implement it, but there is that 10-day
[1:19:10] appeal period where the coastal
[1:19:12] commission could appeal it. So, and with
[1:19:15] that, we recommend approving the uh,
[1:19:19] updated beach parking fees.
[1:19:21] » Great. Are there questions?
[1:19:24] » Um, go ahead. So what's the likelihood
[1:19:27] of coastal commission coming back and
[1:19:29] appealing this within within 10 days?
[1:19:32] You never know because uh you know it
[1:19:34] could be you know um this so let me take
[1:19:38] a step back and say uh this permit is
[1:19:41] relatively minor for Coastal Commission
[1:19:43] and that's why it's just this 10-day
[1:19:45] appeal period versus some of like our
[1:19:47] ordinance changes actually have to go
[1:19:48] through like a review with Coastal
[1:19:51] Commission. With this essentially if
[1:19:52] nobody appeals it, it's approved. Um, so
[1:19:56] it's lower odds, but you also just never
[1:19:59] know. And, uh, I think Ventura this year
[1:20:02] approved theirs and got appealed, but I
[1:20:05] think what we had had heard was that it
[1:20:07] might have been appealed because they
[1:20:09] didn't go through the normal coastal
[1:20:11] commission process. So, it was almost
[1:20:12] more just appealed to make sure they
[1:20:14] were going through the process. So, um,
[1:20:16] we we we're trying to make sure we nip
[1:20:18] all that uh, in the bud up front and go
[1:20:21] through that process. So, we I would say
[1:20:23] we're pretty confident on on this, but
[1:20:26] you just never know. So, that's all I
[1:20:28] have. Thank you.
[1:20:29] » Thank you. Anyone else?
[1:20:31] » Yeah, I just wanted to add that uh $60
[1:20:34] for our annual pass is a really good
[1:20:36] deal. Every fisherman at the pier has
[1:20:39] one and uh I have three of them for our
[1:20:42] three cars and uh it it's the best deal
[1:20:44] in town. It still will be the best deal
[1:20:46] in town after this gets approved. So,
[1:20:50] » Mayor pro tip. Yeah. Thank you for um
[1:20:52] the presentation and I just just had one
[1:20:56] um question about the uh the fee
[1:20:59] increase covering our costs. Um how
[1:21:01] comfortable are you
[1:21:03] » Um because I I didn't see any mention of
[1:21:04] what those costs are?
[1:21:06] » Um but are you comfortable that the 415k
[1:21:10] is going to cover our annual costs and
[1:21:12] does that include the restrooms as well?
[1:21:14] » Yeah, I think uh it gets us closer to
[1:21:16] it. I think uh one of the challenges is
[1:21:19] like um some things we have to do
[1:21:22] regularly, sometimes we some things we
[1:21:24] do periodically. We don't uh you know
[1:21:26] pave and stripe the parking lots every
[1:21:28] year for example. So a year like this
[1:21:30] year it probably won't cover the costs
[1:21:33] but I think we're think on a yearly
[1:21:35] basis that that we're pretty close. Um
[1:21:39] but I also think you know one thing that
[1:21:42] um like we said we didn't increase it to
[1:21:45] the level of inflation but I think as we
[1:21:50] kind of keep getting that data and we
[1:21:52] know all the true costs that it's
[1:21:55] probably not going to be 18 years before
[1:21:57] we're talking about another increase.
[1:22:00] Um, so, uh, so I think we're getting
[1:22:02] closer to covering all the costs and
[1:22:04] then it's just something we we expect to
[1:22:06] continue to monitor, uh, more closely.
[1:22:09] » Okay, great. Thank you.
[1:22:11] » Any other questions? No.
[1:22:13] » Um, so um, I'll now open the public
[1:22:17] hearing and take comments. It's 7:49.
[1:22:23] You already public comments. Uh, 49. U
[1:22:27] Madame Clerk, do we have any public
[1:22:28] comments? No public comments.
[1:22:30] » Great. I'll now close the public public
[1:22:33] hearing. Um, and now the time is 7:49
[1:22:36] still.
[1:22:38] » Okay. So, we have before us the
[1:22:40] recommendation to Is that on in your
[1:22:43] That's not on your slide deck, is it?
[1:22:45] » Oh, let me I hope so because I know it's
[1:22:48] lengthy.
[1:22:56] » Uh, I'll have it. Uh, I think you could
[1:22:59] note unless the city attorney tells me
[1:23:01] uh know that it's as drafted.
[1:23:04] » Can I Can I just refer to it rather than
[1:23:06] read the whole thing?
[1:23:06] » I think so.
[1:23:07] » That's correct.
[1:23:08] » Okay, great. Thank you. We have before
[1:23:10] us the re recommendation um items number
[1:23:13] three, four, and five. May I have a
[1:23:16] motion and a second to approve item
[1:23:20] number seven?
[1:23:21] » Move to approve. Second.
[1:23:24] » Madame clerk, please take role. Council
[1:23:27] member GMA.
[1:23:29] » Yes.
[1:23:30] » Council member Lopez.
[1:23:31] » My apologies. I apologize for the
[1:23:32] interruption. I believe there should be
[1:23:34] a discussion on the motion now that we
[1:23:36] had public uh comments along with the
[1:23:38] » Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.
[1:23:39] » Before the voting.
[1:23:40] » You're right. Thank you. Sorry y'all. Uh
[1:23:42] was there any further discussion? I
[1:23:44] think we we got to a no. I think it's
[1:23:47] long overdue and um
[1:23:50] for what it's worth um some of the more
[1:23:52] successful landlords I know they
[1:23:55] increase their rent every year which you
[1:23:57] know and I don't know if that's
[1:23:59] something that we should consider in our
[1:24:00] parking but um I think uh waiting 18
[1:24:03] years might be a little too long
[1:24:05] » Agreed
[1:24:07] » Great ahead comment in speaking to some
[1:24:10] of the residents along uh Surf Side and
[1:24:12] we were talking about um our our budget
[1:24:15] situation
[1:24:16] and discussing economic um
[1:24:19] opportunities, economic development
[1:24:21] opportunities. They recommended this.
[1:24:24] They said, "Let's increase. Why don't we
[1:24:26] just increase the the parking fees?"
[1:24:27] They probably haven't been um raised in
[1:24:30] some time. So, I think the public um our
[1:24:33] residents will also support this.
[1:24:35] » Some will, some won't. Some will make
[1:24:37] comments that we're trying to get rich.
[1:24:40] » Yeah. Definitely not getting rich, but
[1:24:42] it's it's helping us keep the beach the
[1:24:44] jewel it is.
[1:24:46] » Okay. So that we stay on track. Can I
[1:24:49] get the motion again and the second?
[1:24:51] » Move to approve.
[1:24:53] » Second.
[1:24:54] » Second.
[1:24:55] » Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk,
[1:24:57] please.
[1:24:58] » Okay. Council member GM.
[1:25:00] » Yes.
[1:25:01] » Council member Lopez.
[1:25:02] » Yes.
[1:25:03] » Council member Perez.
[1:25:04] » Yes.
[1:25:05] » Mayor Prom Hernandez.
[1:25:06] » Yes.
[1:25:06] » Mayor McQueen Leon.
[1:25:08] » Yes.
[1:25:08] » Motion passes unanimously.
[1:25:10] » Great. Thank you. We'll move to the
[1:25:11] business item number uh eight uh second
[1:25:13] reading and adoption of the ordinance
[1:25:15] adding chapter 10 to article five of the
[1:25:18] Port Wayne Municipal Code regulating
[1:25:20] short-term rentals. Staff, please
[1:25:23] present the report. That be our city
[1:25:25] manager again.
[1:25:27] » Yes, thank you. So, I know we've talked
[1:25:30] about the um short-term rental ordinance
[1:25:33] uh many times over the last couple
[1:25:35] years, and I everybody's probably tired
[1:25:36] of seeing some of these slides, so I
[1:25:38] won't go over them in in a lot of
[1:25:40] detail. I'll note this is the second
[1:25:42] reading. Typically, the second reading
[1:25:44] can be a consent item, and we usually
[1:25:47] don't even really talk about it again,
[1:25:48] but we wanted to talk about it because
[1:25:51] we had gotten questions about the
[1:25:52] implementation of it. So, we just wanted
[1:25:54] to try to be transparent about that. But
[1:25:56] uh I'll go over the rest of it briefly
[1:25:59] for that uh for that reason. Um but uh
[1:26:02] as we've discussed um we initially
[1:26:05] started receiving uh complaints and
[1:26:06] inquiries about short-term rentals back
[1:26:08] in October of 2024. We've had many
[1:26:11] public conversations and I think uh you
[1:26:13] know we said last meeting that both
[1:26:15] proponents and opponents I think that
[1:26:17] the city council really made an effort
[1:26:20] to be responsive to and um recommended
[1:26:25] or directed that staff make some changes
[1:26:28] over the year. Uh both
[1:26:31] uh some good points that the opponents
[1:26:33] made and good good points that the
[1:26:34] proponents made. So, I think we got to a
[1:26:37] point uh not to jinx it, but I don't
[1:26:39] think anybody's here tonight. So, I
[1:26:41] think that means we got to a point that
[1:26:43] everybody can live with the ordinance,
[1:26:44] and that's a uh a good sign. Um, and so,
[1:26:49] uh, what the ordinance includes is, uh,
[1:26:52] I think what we heard from everybody is
[1:26:54] everybody was on board with some, uh,
[1:26:56] city regulations, some city oversight
[1:26:59] with the goal being really to ensure
[1:27:02] that the owners, um, are just being
[1:27:05] responsible and accountable and um,
[1:27:08] managing their um, rentals and not, you
[1:27:11] know, having party houses or other uh,
[1:27:13] issues like that. And so the ordinance
[1:27:16] uh requires um uh a few things. It
[1:27:20] requires an annual permit uh a valid uh
[1:27:23] business license. Um it the permits are
[1:27:27] uh one-year non-transfer transfer
[1:27:29] non-transferable permits that expire
[1:27:31] upon a change in ownership. So if a new
[1:27:34] owner buys the property, they have to
[1:27:35] come in and go through the same process
[1:27:36] and and confirm that they're going to
[1:27:38] follow all these requirements. Um, it
[1:27:42] requires uh ownership disclosure and has
[1:27:45] eligibility requirements. Um, and then
[1:27:48] uh it uh by state law, short-term
[1:27:52] rentals are prohibited in accessory
[1:27:53] dwelling units, affordable housing
[1:27:55] units, and mobile homes. So, it includes
[1:27:56] that prohibition. Um, and then uh we
[1:27:59] include a 10% citywide cap um of uh 10%
[1:28:05] of all city housing units. uh maximum of
[1:28:08] 10% of all city housing units. It
[1:28:10] includes a uh program review
[1:28:12] approximately one year after
[1:28:14] implementation
[1:28:15] and uh everybody may recall it's really
[1:28:19] focused on what we call good neighbor
[1:28:20] standards. It we tried not to go
[1:28:23] overboard with all the require
[1:28:24] requirements but really focus on the
[1:28:26] complaints we were hearing and the
[1:28:28] concerns that people would have where
[1:28:29] they just want to make sure that
[1:28:30] neighbors are being good neighbors. And
[1:28:32] so some of the things that includes is
[1:28:34] things like quiet hours so that there's
[1:28:36] not parties in the middle of the night.
[1:28:38] Um that there's u parking provided uh on
[1:28:43] the property for guests, whether that's
[1:28:45] a garage or a driveway. U but that
[1:28:47] there's parking so that the uh a
[1:28:49] short-term rental tenant isn't taking up
[1:28:51] all the parking off the street. Um trash
[1:28:54] management requirements. Um information
[1:28:57] provided so that uh tenants can call the
[1:29:00] landlord with any questions or concerns.
[1:29:03] um life safety requirements.
[1:29:06] A 24-hour local contact and city
[1:29:08] approved nuisance response plan is is
[1:29:10] also required. Notification of owners
[1:29:13] and occupants within 200 feet uh and
[1:29:16] applicable homeowners associations so
[1:29:18] that people know who's doing it and know
[1:29:21] to how to contact them. Uh and then
[1:29:24] requirements that the landlords respond
[1:29:26] or landlords or property managers
[1:29:28] responsible respond within uh certain
[1:29:30] time frames of of complaints. Um, and
[1:29:33] then the last two pieces here are more
[1:29:35] on the back end of it allows for
[1:29:37] different ways for the city to monitor
[1:29:39] online listings uh and uh allows for
[1:29:42] fines if people violate those
[1:29:44] requirements. Um, so one of the reasons
[1:29:48] why this wasn't just a consent uh item
[1:29:50] today is because we did get some calls
[1:29:53] and it led to some conversations where
[1:29:55] we started to realize that the messaging
[1:29:59] is going to be very complicated or
[1:30:01] confusing if we try to have two separate
[1:30:05] start dates based on whether you're in
[1:30:07] coastal comm uh coastal commission zone
[1:30:09] or not. And we realized it, you know,
[1:30:12] it's doable and we've done it in the
[1:30:15] past on different things, but in this
[1:30:16] case, what we realized is that there's a
[1:30:19] possibility that coastal commission if
[1:30:21] they have changes that we might then it
[1:30:24] might change something that we're
[1:30:25] already trying to enforce on somebody
[1:30:27] else and that might cause more confusion
[1:30:30] and then you know, do we have two
[1:30:32] separate set of rules or would we want
[1:30:33] to come back and talk about one set of
[1:30:35] rules? So, we just really talked about
[1:30:38] that confusion and uh I know I sent an
[1:30:41] email to council on this but you know
[1:30:43] and then we realized that even some of
[1:30:45] our messaging we started to put out
[1:30:46] where we said you know if you're in the
[1:30:48] coastal zone this if you're outside this
[1:30:50] and the first question we got is am I in
[1:30:52] the coastal zone and uh sort of
[1:30:55] realizing that not everybody pays
[1:30:57] attention to whe whether they're in that
[1:30:59] zone. So, we just um you know, we talked
[1:31:03] about it and it's it could be done, but
[1:31:05] we just think it's going to cause more
[1:31:06] problems than it solves, especially I
[1:31:09] think we all talked about this
[1:31:10] throughout the process, but uh right now
[1:31:13] 99% of our short-term rentals are in the
[1:31:15] coastal zone. So, and I would say all
[1:31:18] the complaints that we have ever
[1:31:19] received are within the coastal zone.
[1:31:22] So, it's really would confuse people who
[1:31:24] are outside of it without much benefit.
[1:31:26] So, so we proposed and we included in
[1:31:29] the ordinance language basically saying
[1:31:31] that it would become effective upon
[1:31:33] coastal commission approval and if there
[1:31:36] was a significant change or
[1:31:38] modification, we'd come back to council
[1:31:40] » And you know and and make sure that we
[1:31:42] have that conversation, but that we uh
[1:31:45] would recommend sort of um keeping them
[1:31:48] consistent and uh holding off on
[1:31:51] enforcement until we hear back from
[1:31:53] Coastal Commission.
[1:31:55] Uh and so this this reiterates some of
[1:31:58] those points I just made about trying to
[1:31:59] be consistent and clear and not cause
[1:32:02] confusion amongst amongst groups. So
[1:32:05] um and so uh with that all being said uh
[1:32:10] we also uh included the information and
[1:32:12] laid out the process for that uh for the
[1:32:14] coastal commission review. So following
[1:32:16] adoption, the ordinance would be
[1:32:18] submitted to California Coastal
[1:32:19] Commission as an amendment to the city's
[1:32:21] local coastal program. And so I
[1:32:23] mentioned earlier, you know, we actually
[1:32:25] we haven't had a whole lot of uh items
[1:32:28] that go through coastal commission
[1:32:29] recently, but today we have, you know,
[1:32:31] two with the beach parking fees and
[1:32:33] this, but the beach parking fees is like
[1:32:35] a lower level where it's essentially
[1:32:37] just uh if coastal commission doesn't
[1:32:39] appeal our action, then it takes effect.
[1:32:42] This is a higher level because it's
[1:32:44] actually a change to our local coastal
[1:32:45] program. And so we expect a little bit
[1:32:49] more interaction and uh we could have
[1:32:52] you know modifications or amendments
[1:32:55] come back from coastal commission. So um
[1:32:58] again that's where we just you know we
[1:33:00] see uh the treatment of the beach
[1:33:04] parking fees as simpler than uh this
[1:33:08] will likely be. So, so while the coastal
[1:33:12] commission review is pending, we still
[1:33:13] will require the business license uh
[1:33:16] because that should have been something
[1:33:17] that we've been requiring all along uh
[1:33:20] for operators, the uh toot payment
[1:33:23] requirements will remain in effect in
[1:33:25] effect. And then uh we will um prepare
[1:33:29] uh we're already working on getting the
[1:33:31] application materials, the permit forms,
[1:33:33] the notification templates and uh uh
[1:33:36] public outreach ready for so that when
[1:33:38] coastal commission does approve it,
[1:33:40] we're ready to launch everything pretty
[1:33:42] quickly there there from. So, um, so,
[1:33:46] uh, the key thing after all that is said
[1:33:49] and done is really the only change from
[1:33:51] the last meeting and the reason why we
[1:33:52] wanted to verbalize it is we're
[1:33:55] recommending not making it effective
[1:33:58] until Coastal Commission approves. So,
[1:34:01] with that, uh, we recommend council
[1:34:03] adopt it and, uh, with that
[1:34:05] modification.
[1:34:07] » Any questions?
[1:34:11] Um, I just have one one comment. Um, it
[1:34:14] might be nice. I don't know if we've if
[1:34:16] we
[1:34:17] » I apologize for interrupting. Um, but
[1:34:19] that the comments will come after public
[1:34:21] comments later. This portion is just
[1:34:23] reserved for questions.
[1:34:26] » Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I It is
[1:34:28] going to be a question, I think.
[1:34:29] » Okay. Thank you.
[1:34:30] » Have we have we I don't recall at any
[1:34:33] time that that we have communicated out
[1:34:36] to the community
[1:34:39] what part of our city is within the
[1:34:41] coastal.
[1:34:44] Have we ever done that?
[1:34:46] » Um
[1:34:47] I was going through my mind and I'm like
[1:34:49] we we've talked about it here a lot but
[1:34:51] no we've never done like a posting.
[1:34:53] Yeah. And
[1:34:55] » Might be an interesting idea of just you
[1:34:57] know educating people on what that means
[1:34:59] to you. So
[1:35:01] » Yeah and the map. Yeah.
[1:35:02] » Yeah. That's you know for me it was
[1:35:04] something that hit me because we talk
[1:35:06] about it, we look at it. we show it on
[1:35:08] screen and then when we started getting
[1:35:10] people asking and we were like well if
[1:35:12] you're in the coastal zone no
[1:35:14] » Right
[1:35:14] » And then uh they were like am I and it's
[1:35:16] like oh oh that's right and I will
[1:35:18] always remind everybody and admit
[1:35:20] » I lived right down the street uh for
[1:35:22] many years I assumed I was in the
[1:35:24] coastal zone but I guess I never checked
[1:35:26] that so like I we realize we can't
[1:35:29] expect everybody to you know know that
[1:35:31] » But that's something we could do is
[1:35:34] » Do some sort of outreach on that
[1:35:35] » Because I know in addition to the
[1:35:38] question I'm asking
[1:35:40] » Uh because I I think that I am in the
[1:35:42] coastal area but the condos next to me
[1:35:47] are not so it's cut really
[1:35:49] » Yeah there's a there's a confusing line
[1:35:53] and uh I think you are correct and I
[1:35:55] think it it's one of the uh associations
[1:35:58] is in and the other is out.
[1:36:00] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any other any other
[1:36:02] questions? Oh go right ahead. So,
[1:36:06] um what do you expect the um designated
[1:36:09] reporting method to look like um for a
[1:36:12] complaint? How is that going to work?
[1:36:15] » So, uh we are currently working with the
[1:36:18] community development on uh getting all
[1:36:21] the templates ready. Um,
[1:36:24] it's funny because last meeting I had
[1:36:26] said that uh we don't have like
[1:36:28] standalone software for for short-term
[1:36:31] rentals, but our community development
[1:36:33] team actually has been launching open
[1:36:36] gov and they actually think there's
[1:36:37] going to be the capability to do a lot
[1:36:39] of these functions in open gov. So it
[1:36:42] could I don't know. I guess the short
[1:36:45] answer is I don't know yet, but the
[1:36:47] longer answer is we're looking at trying
[1:36:49] to create like the portal that that I I
[1:36:51] think the council was interested in the
[1:36:53] prior meeting in open gov and as much of
[1:36:55] the things that we can do in there uh
[1:36:58] you know the complaint form the
[1:36:59] application process we will try to do
[1:37:01] that and have like one um you know uh
[1:37:05] link for people to be able to access and
[1:37:07] and report these different things.
[1:37:10] » Uh second question do we know how much
[1:37:12] revenue that this potentially might
[1:37:15] bring in
[1:37:16] » Yeah additional revenue. I mean, it's um
[1:37:19] it's a tough question because the
[1:37:21] question becomes,
[1:37:23] you know, and we had the numbers in the
[1:37:24] last report. Every time I try to do it
[1:37:26] off the top of my head,
[1:37:27] » 57,000.
[1:37:28] » I was going to say I thought it was
[1:37:29] 50,000ish,
[1:37:31] you know. So, um we're up to 50,000,
[1:37:33] which I will also point out. We've
[1:37:36] actually been increasing that each year.
[1:37:37] Whether that's because we're enforcing,
[1:37:41] you know, the requirements for toot or
[1:37:43] whether there's actually more operating,
[1:37:45] you know, it's probably a combination of
[1:37:47] the two. But, um, you know, there's
[1:37:49] always the question like, are there
[1:37:50] others operating that we don't know yet
[1:37:52] and when we do this big, you know, roll
[1:37:54] out, maybe some of those start, you
[1:37:56] know, either somebody turns them in or
[1:37:59] they just voluntarily start complying
[1:38:01] once they get informed of this. So, you
[1:38:04] know, I would estimate I think we'd
[1:38:06] always be well, in the short term, we'll
[1:38:08] be in the $50 to $100,000 range. That's
[1:38:10] my guess.
[1:38:11] » Great. Thank you. That's all I said.
[1:38:12] » In the short term, rental.
[1:38:15] » I do.
[1:38:16] » You have a question for Yeah. Council
[1:38:18] member
[1:38:18] » Parking. Um, so public parking in front
[1:38:21] of a house is, you know, you can't get
[1:38:24] angry when someone parks in front of
[1:38:26] your house. And so I'm wondering how are
[1:38:27] we going to address the STR parking
[1:38:32] rules?
[1:38:34] » So
[1:38:35] council already did theoretically,
[1:38:38] right, with the ordinance. Um the uh
[1:38:41] ordinance includes the requirement that
[1:38:44] they provide uh a minimal number of
[1:38:47] parking spaces. And the only reason I'm
[1:38:49] hesitating is because I think we changed
[1:38:52] that a couple times. So, it's
[1:38:54] » Section
[1:38:55] » Two. Yeah. Section
[1:38:57] » 5665.
[1:38:58] » Yep. Yep. Section C. Operators shall
[1:39:01] maintain sufficient off- streetet
[1:39:02] parking for short-term rental use. One
[1:39:04] off- streetet parking space is required
[1:39:06] for a short-term rental consisting of a
[1:39:08] onebedroom and two or more will be
[1:39:10] required for an STR consisting of two or
[1:39:12] more bedrooms. Um, if you recall, uh,
[1:39:16] initially we said basically if you you
[1:39:18] need to have your two-car garage
[1:39:20] available.
[1:39:22] um our a resident who uh came and spoke
[1:39:25] a few times uh on this had said, "Well,
[1:39:29] I have the whole driveway available with
[1:39:31] more than enough parking. Why do I have
[1:39:33] to have the garage available?" So, I
[1:39:35] think the council ended up agreeing that
[1:39:38] it didn't necessarily need to be
[1:39:39] garages, but it's there needs to be off-
[1:39:42] streetet parking, garage or driveway in
[1:39:44] those numbers
[1:39:45] » Or tandem parking.
[1:39:46] » Yeah, it could be tandem parking, garage
[1:39:48] parking, driveway spaces. Um,
[1:39:51] » But but not the street parking.
[1:39:53] » Well, and so to to answer your question,
[1:39:56] is it possible that the tenant
[1:39:58] short-term renter has more than two
[1:40:00] cars? Yes. And so, like you said, you
[1:40:04] know, public parking is public parking,
[1:40:07] but the ordinance tries to make sure
[1:40:09] that it tries to minimize it by
[1:40:10] requiring them to at least have enough
[1:40:12] spaces to cover most of their parking
[1:40:14] spaces.
[1:40:15] » Right.
[1:40:16] » And something
[1:40:18] » Yeah. Yeah.
[1:40:19] » And then the other question just came to
[1:40:20] mind is like um
[1:40:23] additional dwelling units could be in
[1:40:25] the vicinity of STRs.
[1:40:28] » Mhm.
[1:40:28] » Right. And so parking
[1:40:32] again, is there a way to distinguish
[1:40:34] between
[1:40:36] parking on the property, public parking?
[1:40:40] Um,
[1:40:41] » The way we would enforce this is when
[1:40:43] they come in and get their permit, we
[1:40:46] would require them to show us that they
[1:40:48] at least have two parking spaces.
[1:40:50] » Uh, or if it's a one-bedroom, one
[1:40:52] parking space, but you know, typically
[1:40:54] two.
[1:40:55] » And, um, you know, does that mean that
[1:40:58] they won't rent to a family that ends up
[1:41:00] having four cars for two days? you know,
[1:41:04] that's possible, but the goal is really
[1:41:07] uh it's like minimizing the impact and
[1:41:09] trying to make sure that it doesn't
[1:41:10] become a habitual problem that you know,
[1:41:13] one house that's being operated as a
[1:41:15] short-term rental is taking up all of
[1:41:17] the parking from the whole neighborhood
[1:41:19] in perpetuity. So, so that's that's what
[1:41:23] the ordinance really protects against.
[1:41:32] Uh, no more questions. Okay. Do we have
[1:41:35] any public comments?
[1:41:36] » No public comments.
[1:41:41] » Okay. So, um,
[1:41:44] we have our recommendation.
[1:41:47] Uh, the recommendation is to well, we
[1:41:50] have our recommendation. Um, is to adopt
[1:41:53] the second reading by title only.
[1:41:55] Awaiting further reading ordinance
[1:41:56] entitled the ordinance of the city
[1:41:58] council of the city of Portini
[1:42:00] adding article 5 chapter 10 to the
[1:42:03] municipal code pertaining to shortterm
[1:42:06] rentals. May I have a motion and a
[1:42:08] second?
[1:42:09] » Move to approve.
[1:42:11] » Second.
[1:42:12] » Okay. Any discussion?
[1:42:16] » Right.
[1:42:17] » So I I did I did the math. I'm just you
[1:42:20] know I I just 50 units. If there's just
[1:42:24] 50 units, um 99.95 permitting, that's
[1:42:28] 50K and then a 45% occupancy rate,
[1:42:33] uh
[1:42:35] probably looking somewhere between
[1:42:37] 160,000. Um at a high peak demand,
[1:42:41] probably up to 300,000. That's if we
[1:42:43] have 50 units.
[1:42:44] » Conservatively, I I would lean to the
[1:42:47] 160,000.
[1:42:49] Um, but of course, um, I did do a search
[1:42:53] and
[1:42:56] AirDNA shows up to 100, but you know, it
[1:43:00] can be misleading because we don't know
[1:43:03] if uh, VRMO, Airbnb are they're on the
[1:43:07] same platform. So, that, you know, we
[1:43:10] won't know until we get the just of the
[1:43:13] SB uh, 386
[1:43:16] um, later.
[1:43:18] Uh but this has been long overdue. Um
[1:43:22] and I think we did a good job, you know,
[1:43:24] getting the community here with the
[1:43:26] community uh brief. Um and it's it's I
[1:43:32] you know, we we gave a little and we
[1:43:35] pushed a little and I thought together
[1:43:37] as a council staff presented a good good
[1:43:40] options to us and uh just want to tell
[1:43:43] uh thank staff. Uh, I think we we
[1:43:46] finally got to the finish line on this.
[1:43:48] So, we'll see how the Coastal Commission
[1:43:50] views this and uh and if we got to make
[1:43:53] any adjustments, of course, we will
[1:43:56] continue to do do the work. That's all I
[1:43:58] got. Thanks.
[1:44:00] » Anyone else?
[1:44:02] Yes,
[1:44:04] » So I'm hoping that we could communicate
[1:44:07] upstate that
[1:44:10] there's destined to be a conflict
[1:44:12] between additional dwelling units and
[1:44:15] STRs. And the the reason why I say that
[1:44:17] is because of there is no parking
[1:44:20] component with an additional dwelling
[1:44:22] unit. So, if there's a ADU over here and
[1:44:25] a short-term rental over here, um you're
[1:44:28] going to see parking problems and and I
[1:44:30] think uh I'm going to make a prediction
[1:44:32] that down the road um there's there's
[1:44:34] going to be a convergence of of these
[1:44:36] issues because as you know, ADUs aren't
[1:44:40] required to have a parking spot. And um
[1:44:44] I see more and more popping up around
[1:44:46] town and um you know, parking is the
[1:44:48] issue. So, we'll just have to take a
[1:44:52] step back, watch and and wait and see
[1:44:53] what develops. But I do think can we
[1:44:56] communicate ask to whoever it who is it?
[1:44:59] How come there's no parking component
[1:45:00] with ADUs?
[1:45:03] » I I know the answer. I know I know it's
[1:45:06] » Doesn't mean you'll like the answer you
[1:45:07] know
[1:45:08] » But I mean it's the you know even with
[1:45:10] this too the uh you know short answer
[1:45:13] because it's not on the agenda is uh the
[1:45:16] decision to prioritize accessory
[1:45:18] dwelling units is to impact affordable
[1:45:20] housing and the state has decided that
[1:45:22] is priority one parking is priority two
[1:45:25] or maybe three or four or five um so um
[1:45:29] you know not everybody has to agree with
[1:45:31] it I heard from a lot of resident our
[1:45:32] residents who don't feel that way, but
[1:45:34] that's that's the way the state's gone.
[1:45:37] And uh I will say that, you know, the
[1:45:40] STR ordinance essentially notes that you
[1:45:43] can't build an ADU to run it as a
[1:45:45] short-term rental. So, that's one
[1:45:47] attempt we're making. Well, and that is
[1:45:49] state law anyway, too. So, that I guess
[1:45:50] that's one attempt to sort of make sure
[1:45:52] that it's not just like bringing all
[1:45:53] these cars and it actually is helping
[1:45:55] with affordable housing. So,
[1:45:57] » But could could a ADU try to transition
[1:46:00] to a STR? No,
[1:46:02] » They just cannot do it.
[1:46:04] » No, per state law and we put it in our
[1:46:06] ordinance.
[1:46:06] » Okay,
[1:46:06] » So the goal we're trying to keep ADUs
[1:46:08] for affordable housing.
[1:46:09] » Great. Anyone else?
[1:46:11] » If not, madam clerk, please take role.
[1:46:13] » All in favor?
[1:46:15] » I.
[1:46:16] » All opposed?
[1:46:17] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.
[1:46:20] » Okay, great. We'll move to item number
[1:46:22] nine, a response to civil gr uh civil
[1:46:24] grand jury fireworks report. Over to
[1:46:27] you.
[1:46:28] » Thank you. So, um, gonna talk out of
[1:46:31] both sides of my mouth here and say that
[1:46:33] I know fireworks are always a hot topic
[1:46:36] and so I wasn't going to try to sneak
[1:46:39] this item through on consent uh because
[1:46:41] I know we we get a lot of questions
[1:46:44] about fireworks, but I am also going to
[1:46:46] say at the same time that this item is
[1:46:48] not a general fireworks discussion. It's
[1:46:51] an item that's intended to respond to
[1:46:53] the grand civil grand jury's finding
[1:46:55] that all the cities and and the county
[1:46:59] need to work together sort of more
[1:47:01] consistently and strategically on
[1:47:03] fireworks. Um so
[1:47:07] uh so I'll try to limit you know the the
[1:47:10] item to really that grand jury response.
[1:47:13] And so, um, I think council's aware, but
[1:47:17] for public benefit, we did receive a,
[1:47:19] uh, all cities in the county received a,
[1:47:21] uh, grand jury report on June 23rd that,
[1:47:26] um, as I paraphrased, and it's obviously
[1:47:28] the report's a lot longer, but the
[1:47:30] paraphrasing is, well, actually, it
[1:47:32] could be restated in recommendation
[1:47:34] four, which is what we responded to,
[1:47:36] which is the Ventura County Civil Grand
[1:47:37] Jury recommends that the Ventura County
[1:47:40] Fire Department interface regularly with
[1:47:42] Ventura County law enforcement ment
[1:47:43] coordinating committee to inform the
[1:47:45] committee about recommendations from
[1:47:47] CalFire's fireworks enforcement task
[1:47:50] force. So the outcome of this uh grand
[1:47:54] jury investigation was that and so uh
[1:47:58] maybe a couple of the phrases that
[1:47:59] aren't familiar but it says Ventura
[1:48:01] County Fire Department uh interface
[1:48:04] regularly with Ventura County Law
[1:48:06] Enforcement Coordinating Committee. So
[1:48:07] that's um there's a committee VCL if
[1:48:10] anybody's ever heard that and it's
[1:48:12] essentially all the police chiefs and
[1:48:14] the sheriff in our county meet regularly
[1:48:17] and work together on uh issues that
[1:48:20] impact all of the agencies, all the law
[1:48:23] enforcement agencies. So, the grand jury
[1:48:27] report was essentially if the fire
[1:48:29] department works with all of our police
[1:48:31] uh chiefs and our law enforcement
[1:48:33] leadership teams and comes up with
[1:48:36] strategic actions and recommendations
[1:48:39] like that. That's what needs to happen,
[1:48:41] not just have every city go out and do
[1:48:43] its own thing that's completely
[1:48:44] different from the other cities. So, um
[1:48:47] so our response to that grand grand jury
[1:48:50] finding is we think that's a good
[1:48:52] recommendation. We aren't opposing the
[1:48:55] recommendation or challenging it any in
[1:48:57] any way. We think it's a good
[1:48:58] recommendation and we think that um uh
[1:49:02] that VCL can get together and make
[1:49:06] recommendations and then we can all
[1:49:08] bring them back and then we can have
[1:49:09] fireworks conversations. Um I'll note uh
[1:49:14] you know one of the things like I had
[1:49:15] been talking to PD about recently was
[1:49:17] increasing the penalties for example.
[1:49:19] So, like I want to have that
[1:49:21] conversation, but I think to the grand
[1:49:24] jury's point, it's the thought right now
[1:49:26] is have all the agencies talk about that
[1:49:29] and like, you know, uniformly do that so
[1:49:32] that it's makes our whole county um uh
[1:49:36] firmer on fireworks.
[1:49:39] So, so again um so this item today is to
[1:49:43] accept that grand jury finding, send
[1:49:45] that recommendation that we agree to
[1:49:47] meet with to have our team uh meet as
[1:49:50] part of those VCL meetings uh and with
[1:49:53] the fire fire department and uh to um
[1:49:56] strategize accordingly. Um and so with
[1:50:01] that um I think that is about it. Like I
[1:50:04] said, I know fireworks is a broad topic,
[1:50:06] but this item is focused on that grand
[1:50:09] jury report, and we recommend accepting
[1:50:11] that response and sending our responses
[1:50:13] drafted here.
[1:50:15] » Great. Thank you. Any questions for our
[1:50:16] city manager?
[1:50:19] » I have a question.
[1:50:20] » Council member Lopez,
[1:50:22] » I I know VClack collected all this this
[1:50:24] data. Um
[1:50:27] so looking at Oxnard they they issued 59
[1:50:31] um citations
[1:50:33] or you know 59 50 59 and then uh we had
[1:50:38] you know we had zero for 23 24 and 25.
[1:50:41] Is there any lessons learned that we
[1:50:43] they could bring back on on how um how
[1:50:47] how they were successful in in in you
[1:50:50] know getting getting to that. I think
[1:50:52] this speaks and uh I had meant to get to
[1:50:55] that and knew I forgot something, but I
[1:50:57] think this speaks to why the first step
[1:51:00] is to standardize how everybody
[1:51:02] approaches it. Um because the feedback
[1:51:07] we've gotten from everybody is that
[1:51:10] everybody
[1:51:12] handles their calls differently. So the
[1:51:17] grand jury ended up reporting on the way
[1:51:20] that Oxnard handles theirs, you know. So
[1:51:23] then Oxnard has the most responses. But
[1:51:27] you'll note when you look, Santa Paula
[1:51:28] had blanks because they don't respond
[1:51:32] or, you know, they don't track that data
[1:51:34] because that's not what they use.
[1:51:35] » And then on our end, for example, um,
[1:51:39] and I always get it mixed up, but
[1:51:41] there's like a civil code section and
[1:51:42] then there's a criminal code section.
[1:51:44] And so they wrote the report based on
[1:51:47] one and where the other. So it's not
[1:51:49] that we haven't ever cited anybody, it's
[1:51:52] that we haven't used that that code to
[1:51:55] site people. So I think that just goes
[1:51:57] back to where the grand jury said the
[1:51:59] one of the first steps is standardize
[1:52:01] how everybody does it so that everybody
[1:52:03] can see apples to apples. Um
[1:52:07] uh but having said that, I guess the
[1:52:10] other answer to your question is I do
[1:52:11] think that's going to be part of what
[1:52:13] VCL does though too is they will look at
[1:52:16] what works for the cities and what
[1:52:18] doesn't and the lessons learned. Um
[1:52:20] Oxnard uh like three years ago I think
[1:52:22] was the first city that used uh like
[1:52:24] drones to see the fireworks and then we
[1:52:27] followed that um I think the following
[1:52:30] year.
[1:52:31] » Another county.
[1:52:32] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the county and and
[1:52:34] everything. So, so it's like, you know,
[1:52:37] um I think they're we're doing it right
[1:52:40] now, but it's a little more like, hey,
[1:52:41] look, the city just did something cool
[1:52:43] and that that's honestly, you know, with
[1:52:45] the the raising the um penalties, I saw
[1:52:49] Oxnard did it, and I was like, why
[1:52:50] haven't we done that yet, you know? So,
[1:52:52] it is sort of like that's how we're
[1:52:54] doing it now. And I think the grand
[1:52:55] jury's point is why don't why doesn't
[1:52:57] everybody get in the room and put a plan
[1:52:58] together so everybody's doing the same
[1:53:00] thing. So, so, um, but we would expect
[1:53:03] the charts to look different in the
[1:53:05] future when it's sort of more apples to
[1:53:08] apples and everybody's doing it the same
[1:53:09] way.
[1:53:10] » To go off of that, that is exactly why
[1:53:13] there's such a difference between us and
[1:53:15] Oxnard or or Oxnard or everyone else is
[1:53:17] because everyone else goes by the same
[1:53:19] standard for penalties, but by the time
[1:53:21] it gets to the court, the judge reduces
[1:53:23] it to a hundred bucks. So, it doesn't
[1:53:25] stick and it's pretty much worthless
[1:53:26] even though the fine is $1,000. Well,
[1:53:29] Oxnard did an internal um rate increase,
[1:53:32] which is a a fine from the city. I think
[1:53:35] it put it up to
[1:53:36] » What was the increase? We talked about
[1:53:37] this. It was like
[1:53:38] » It was another00 $2,500 and that
[1:53:42] actually stick and it can't be reduced.
[1:53:44] So that's why it's
[1:53:45] » Yeah.
[1:53:46] » So So I do think there's a few things
[1:53:48] like that that we were already eyeing
[1:53:50] that I have a feeling BCLE is going to
[1:53:52] get in the room and say we should all do
[1:53:53] this thing. So, I think there's going to
[1:53:56] be some future recommendations coming
[1:53:58] from it.
[1:53:59] » Any other questions? Do we have any
[1:54:01] public comments?
[1:54:03] » No public comments.
[1:54:04] » Okay. Is there a motion and a second to
[1:54:07] approve staff's recommendation one
[1:54:10] through three?
[1:54:11] » Move to approve.
[1:54:12] » Second.
[1:54:13] » Any additional discussion?
[1:54:15] » I just want to say I'm all for
[1:54:17] standardizing our our approach. I think
[1:54:19] Oxart's a great model. Um, I'd like to
[1:54:22] see us do more of what Hogart's doing.
[1:54:24] Sure.
[1:54:25] » If there's nothing else,
[1:54:27] » I would just add that, um, every year
[1:54:32] from the vantage point of my backyard,
[1:54:34] we see the unauthorized Oxnard fireworks
[1:54:39] show going on over there in Oxnard. And
[1:54:42] and it's visible from my backyard. It's
[1:54:44] the same place every year. So, you know,
[1:54:48] the people that shoot off fireworks in
[1:54:50] my neighborhood, they're really stealthy
[1:54:52] about it. They light it, they run, and
[1:54:54] they hide, and then they don't come back
[1:54:56] for a couple days. Whereas what I see
[1:54:58] over there in Oxnard is just a barrage,
[1:55:01] a non-stop
[1:55:03] releasing of these things, and I'm
[1:55:05] becoming becoming anti-fires as a
[1:55:08] result.
[1:55:11] » Great. Madame Clerk, please take.
[1:55:13] » All in favor? I
[1:55:15] » I
[1:55:16] » All opposed hearing none. Motion passes
[1:55:19] unanimously.
[1:55:20] » Great. Thank you. We'll move to item uh
[1:55:22] number 10. That's future agenda item uh
[1:55:24] request. And we have one uh request that
[1:55:27] was received by or submitted by uh
[1:55:31] Council Member Lopez.
[1:55:33] » And so we have the item. Um
[1:55:36] Council Member Lopez, do you want to
[1:55:38] give us
[1:55:39] » Yeah, sure. Mayor, colleagues, staff, um
[1:55:44] I'm I'm here asking the council to
[1:55:47] support uh tonight to schedule a formal
[1:55:50] item on our next agenda to consider
[1:55:52] allocating $10,000 for all for our
[1:55:55] available prior year community benefit
[1:55:57] fund for uh for 10,000 from the comm the
[1:56:01] prior year community benefit fund
[1:56:03] unprogrammed balance to support our
[1:56:04] military banner under under category B.
[1:56:08] Tonight isn't about debating the full ex
[1:56:12] execution is simply agreeing that
[1:56:13] honoring our local service members uh
[1:56:16] using designated community benefit funds
[1:56:18] meets our criterion for our future
[1:56:20] agenda policy. Uh this approving uh
[1:56:24] appropriations under the unprogrammed
[1:56:26] community benefit fund balance is
[1:56:28] explicit city council policy and
[1:56:29] budgetary power not administrative task.
[1:56:32] Staff directions required to amend the
[1:56:35] formal CBF expenditure plan. Category B,
[1:56:39] community development, uh, explicitly
[1:56:42] authorized funding initiatives that
[1:56:44] foster community, social, cultural,
[1:56:46] well-being, and support civic
[1:56:48] organizations benefiting residents.
[1:56:51] Um, there is a direct council precedent.
[1:56:54] CBF funds uh have been consistently
[1:56:56] supported for cultural, visual, and
[1:56:58] civic identity projects, including the
[1:57:01] the mural project and the Bard Monument.
[1:57:04] That's all I got.
[1:57:06] » Okay. So, as a reminder at this time,
[1:57:08] this is uh for clarification only. So,
[1:57:10] the council uh and staff clearly
[1:57:13] understand what's being requested, not
[1:57:15] for in-depth discussion or debate. Um
[1:57:17] so, after clarification, the council
[1:57:19] will vote on whether to direct staff to
[1:57:21] place the item on future agenda. Uh
[1:57:24] please keep in mind that each request
[1:57:26] requires staff time and resources to
[1:57:28] prepare. Um so, are there any questions
[1:57:32] for clarification
[1:57:34] uh around this item?
[1:57:40] Council member Gama.
[1:57:42] » So, we're going to put this on the
[1:57:44] agenda to have a discussion
[1:57:47] solely on whether or not to allocate
[1:57:49] $10,000 or can we add
[1:57:52] add items to be discussed
[1:57:56] or are we going to have it? I guess if I
[1:57:58] could because that's the only question I
[1:58:01] have maybe kind of goes back to that is
[1:58:03] is it an item to discuss the CBF
[1:58:06] the full CBF including this allocation
[1:58:09] or only to discuss this allocation. So
[1:58:12] does it matter? I I think my initial
[1:58:15] thought was that it would be discuss all
[1:58:17] the CBF but include information on this
[1:58:20] specific $10,000 allocation. So,
[1:58:23] » Right.
[1:58:24] » But my thought process is if you're
[1:58:25] going to bring something um at least
[1:58:28] does it meet the categories? Um and give
[1:58:32] a I mean you discussed something the
[1:58:36] previous meeting but you didn't bring it
[1:58:38] you didn't bring it to the council for
[1:58:41] » Uh for consideration. So
[1:58:43] » Okay. So I think it would be a CBF item,
[1:58:48] but this would be one of the like
[1:58:51] proposed projects that we could do a
[1:58:53] little like uh you know vetting on and
[1:58:56] include the information on. I think uh
[1:58:59] based on the prior discussion, I think
[1:59:01] it was going to be the other item that
[1:59:03] we were going to try to get more
[1:59:04] information on and bring back which
[1:59:06] we're we're working on. We're trying to
[1:59:07] get u from the group, but the EDCVC loan
[1:59:10] program. So essentially it would be the
[1:59:13] CBF item with those two items already
[1:59:17] sort of like vetted out. Um and then
[1:59:20] that still gives the council the ability
[1:59:21] to talk about any other projects
[1:59:23] desired, but those are the two that
[1:59:25] would be included with some detail.
[1:59:27] » So question I have is will we be able to
[1:59:31] for example discuss the banner placement
[1:59:34] program top to bottom?
[1:59:38] » Is this agenda item? because I I talked
[1:59:41] to
[1:59:41] » I don't think that's this agenda item,
[1:59:43] but that could be another request. What
[1:59:45] you're saying is can we discuss like the
[1:59:47] actual banner
[1:59:49] » Program,
[1:59:50] » Where the banners are placed, you know,
[1:59:53] the look of the banners, things like
[1:59:55] that. Is that what you're asking? you
[1:59:57] kind of I talked to council member Lopez
[2:00:00] about what I s I think we could adjust.
[2:00:03] So
[2:00:04] » I think the banner program there might
[2:00:06] be some adjustments that we could all
[2:00:09] come to agreement on if we have the
[2:00:10] opportunity to talk about it. So I think
[2:00:12] is this part of this project if the
[2:00:14] council were to say for example we would
[2:00:18] approve this to be you know $10,000 CBF
[2:00:21] funding however we want to change it
[2:00:24] where the banner has our logo on it or
[2:00:26] whatever it is right like I think that
[2:00:29] could be discussed under here but if you
[2:00:31] just want a like a full like debrief on
[2:00:34] the banner program and changes to the
[2:00:36] banner program then that's a separate
[2:00:38] item so it just
[2:00:39] » But it couldn't be included on this
[2:00:40] request this with this. I think you give
[2:00:42] you can give some direction. We'll
[2:00:44] approve this if the banners are like
[2:00:46] this. It's just not a full banner.
[2:00:50] » So, can I just say real quick? So, um
[2:00:56] it feels it just feels like it's we're
[2:00:59] we're peacemealing a discussion around
[2:01:02] the $190,000
[2:01:04] » That needs to be more encompassing.
[2:01:07] So, it's it's like we have this
[2:01:09] $190,000. We're talking about $10,000
[2:01:11] here now. We have another $180,000. So,
[2:01:13] I we really need to be talking about
[2:01:16] uh projects period.
[2:01:18] And um because
[2:01:21] we we haven't had that conversation. Do
[2:01:23] you know what I mean?
[2:01:24] » Yeah, that's sort of where I was going
[2:01:26] where I was saying, is it just only
[2:01:28] talking about the one item or is it
[2:01:30] talking about the whole 190,000? But by
[2:01:33] doing this, the council's authorizing
[2:01:36] staff to vet this project already, you
[2:01:40] know.
[2:01:40] » Yeah.
[2:01:40] » So, um, these are all I mean, the
[2:01:43] question is just for council and if you
[2:01:45] want to schedule the future items. So,
[2:01:46] these are all, you know, uh, the council
[2:01:48] could decide what the item is.
[2:01:50] » Yeah. But if we go down memory lane,
[2:01:52] like we had a situation where every
[2:01:55] council member could potentially request
[2:01:57] an agenda item, we'd all vote for it and
[2:01:59] boom, there's five items to come up on a
[2:02:01] future agenda. Now we've narrowed it
[2:02:04] down to be very tight and you know, now
[2:02:06] we're hung up on one such item which
[2:02:08] could lead to three important
[2:02:10] conversations. So we're kind of
[2:02:13] » This is supposed to be discussing the
[2:02:15] CBF fund is what he's recommending.
[2:02:17] » Yeah, that's what that is. CBF
[2:02:18] » Literally what it is.
[2:02:19] » Yeah. And so we're already working on
[2:02:22] EDCVC.
[2:02:23] » It's from the CBF.
[2:02:24] » We're already working on EDC. The EDCVC.
[2:02:27] So there already is an item in the
[2:02:28] pipeline to talk CV. Yeah. I think the
[2:02:30] question is Okay, that's good.
[2:02:31] » Yeah. So the question would just be, you
[2:02:34] know, do we want to make sure to include
[2:02:37] detail on this um the banner program
[2:02:40] request
[2:02:41] » In that in that discussion? Yeah, I
[2:02:43] think that's
[2:02:44] » Are you okay with that?
[2:02:45] » Yeah.
[2:02:46] » Yeah. Um, so when uh so usually when we
[2:02:51] present like a future agenda item, so
[2:02:53] for when we talk CBF, are we going to
[2:02:55] get to we get to look at what
[2:02:57] everybody's requesting right before the
[2:02:59] meeting?
[2:03:01] So that's that's the iffy part. Right
[2:03:03] now there hasn't really been any council
[2:03:06] direction on specific items, right? like
[2:03:10] uh all we've said is we're going to
[2:03:12] schedule a future discussion to let
[2:03:13] everybody come up with their projects.
[2:03:16] Got it.
[2:03:16] » So I think the item right now the item
[2:03:18] that we were working on for next week is
[2:03:20] essentially like you know there's
[2:03:23] 190,000 here's what the categories are
[2:03:26] and then the only project that we had
[2:03:28] you know council direction on. So we
[2:03:30] were trying to get them to come present
[2:03:32] was EDC on the the economic development
[2:03:36] program they run. So that was going to
[2:03:38] be the item. We could add, you know,
[2:03:40] information about this banner program
[2:03:42] request to that and have that as part of
[2:03:44] the item.
[2:03:45] » I think that that was like how I was
[2:03:47] hearing it, right?
[2:03:48] » Um the challenge with what you were
[2:03:51] saying and it's it's up to the council,
[2:03:52] but you know, like uh usually I can't
[2:03:56] just send an email to everybody saying
[2:03:58] everybody any ideas you have, send them
[2:04:00] to me and I'll include them in the
[2:04:01] packet because well because of the Brown
[2:04:03] Act really, right? because then it's
[2:04:05] like we're all brainstorming ideas
[2:04:07] outside of a council meeting. So um so
[2:04:10] that session would be looking at EDCVC
[2:04:13] the banner program but also
[2:04:15] brainstorming you know that's when we
[2:04:17] could talk about those things
[2:04:18] » And also discussing a process.
[2:04:20] » Yeah the process how we want to do it
[2:04:22] and yeah how much of the funds we want
[2:04:24] to utilize for each category you know
[2:04:27] all that stuff could be discussed it
[2:04:29] would be a bigger picture
[2:04:31] » And then if you want to send in a future
[2:04:35] agenda item request to discuss the full
[2:04:38] banner program.
[2:04:39] That's what you were just talking about
[2:04:40] earlier.
[2:04:41] » Well, we have
[2:04:42] » What
[2:04:43] » Well, can can I say something?
[2:04:46] We have um we have the veterans ad hoc.
[2:04:49] Um
[2:04:51] we're going to present um a uh
[2:04:56] they're going to present basically what
[2:04:58] where the the current status of the of
[2:05:00] the banner program and a phase two. Um
[2:05:03] and we're we we're getting a lot of
[2:05:05] inputs from from uh you know residents
[2:05:09] and so and like council member GMA,
[2:05:12] we're we're listening to everybody's
[2:05:13] recommendations. So, we're we're kind of
[2:05:15] pivoting a little bit. So, uh and we had
[2:05:20] discussed I had discussed maybe putting
[2:05:21] that on the agenda.
[2:05:22] » Yeah, we were we were uh I think the
[2:05:25] council at one point too had said sort
[2:05:27] of after the first round, you know, have
[2:05:30] a debrief item on the banner program,
[2:05:32] how it went, any changes, all that kind
[2:05:34] of stuff. So, that can be an item too. I
[2:05:37] think it's, you know, um
[2:05:40] » Without it being written up. Well, I
[2:05:43] mean, I think it already was, right?
[2:05:44] Like it was already uh the council had
[2:05:46] already said, you know, the council have
[2:05:49] agreed to fund that program initially
[2:05:52] and then the idea was going to be and
[2:05:54] then come back at some point and do a
[2:05:56] debrief and talk about what worked and
[2:05:58] didn't work. So, so that's a that's an
[2:06:00] item two. I think I think that's really
[2:06:02] and we were talking about doing
[2:06:04] something like that before Veterans Day
[2:06:06] coming up. So, I think it could be both
[2:06:08] of like both of those. Well, let me
[2:06:10] answer it this way. that item was
[2:06:12] already on like the the list and then
[2:06:17] this would be just including it with the
[2:06:19] CVF item that was on the list. So, we
[2:06:22] can do both of those things.
[2:06:24] » So, I have a question regarding that. We
[2:06:26] weren't the one to initially really
[2:06:30] discuss and put in the categories and
[2:06:34] everything for the banner program. It
[2:06:35] was ad hoc committee who created the
[2:06:37] process. So, are we now coming in now to
[2:06:39] make decisions on it or shouldn't it
[2:06:41] still be an ad hoc committee
[2:06:43] » Program?
[2:06:44] » So, you you set the ad hoc,
[2:06:46] » Right?
[2:06:47] » And then the ad ad hoc committee is the
[2:06:49] one who develops the process.
[2:06:50] » Yeah.
[2:06:51] » One of the banners.
[2:06:52] » So, typically what I recommend and it's
[2:06:54] one of those things not to have an ego,
[2:06:56] but it's always the reminder that the
[2:06:58] commissions and ad hoc committees work
[2:06:59] for the council and they don't work for
[2:07:01] me, right? like uh they're not my
[2:07:03] employee so I don't really give them
[2:07:05] direction but the council as a whole
[2:07:07] gives them direction on what their job
[2:07:09] is, what their missions are, all that
[2:07:11] kind of thing. So um so what I usually
[2:07:14] recommend is when you create a committee
[2:07:17] and then usually like six months or a
[2:07:19] year in doing a review of what they're
[2:07:21] doing to make sure they're doing the
[2:07:22] thing that the council wanted them to
[2:07:24] do, you know. So I think it's more of
[2:07:26] that. It would be like a review of the
[2:07:29] banner like you know uh the work that
[2:07:31] the committee's done so far which is the
[2:07:33] banner program you know and then the
[2:07:35] council could potentially decide we like
[2:07:37] this and we want to keep it up and we
[2:07:39] want to do more or you know it uh we
[2:07:43] didn't like it and do we want to change
[2:07:44] it to this you know all that is within
[2:07:46] the council's uh scope.
[2:07:50] » Okay. So
[2:07:50] » Yeah, and and also the veterans ad hoc
[2:07:52] have a group email. Um if you send it to
[2:07:55] Brian
[2:07:56] » Uh it'll Brian will direct that email to
[2:07:58] the veterans ad hoc and you know they're
[2:08:00] not bound by the Brown Act.
[2:08:02] » So
[2:08:03] » Oh, they're an ad hoc.
[2:08:04] » They're ad hoc. So you guys can fire
[2:08:06] away at them. Any recommendations? Do
[2:08:07] you guys send them to Brian?
[2:08:09] » Yeah. So, so let's get back to the item
[2:08:11] and does anyone have a motion based on
[2:08:13] what we've talked about as it relates to
[2:08:16] a motion for this action and moving
[2:08:18] forward with the CBF discussion
[2:08:21] » With confused. I think it's already in
[2:08:24] the pipeline.
[2:08:25] » Well, with the so the note that uh
[2:08:28] veterans ad hoc committee update on the
[2:08:30] banner program is already in the
[2:08:32] pipeline. So the question is, do we want
[2:08:35] to include the ME military banner
[2:08:37] program in the community benefit fund
[2:08:40] discussion we were planning
[2:08:42] » As a potential item
[2:08:45] » And if you say yes now it doesn't mean
[2:08:47] you have to fund it, right? Like that
[2:08:49] that's what you will discuss.
[2:08:51] » Just a future it'll just be an agenda
[2:08:53] item. Agendaized the item.
[2:08:55] » That's correct. Yes. Thank you.
[2:08:56] » So moved.
[2:08:58] » Does anyone have a motion?
[2:09:00] » So moved. So what are you so moving?
[2:09:03] » Let's move forward with the request
[2:09:05] » To have it on the agenda so we can have
[2:09:07] a discuss request
[2:09:08] » With the CBF.
[2:09:09] » Yeah, CBF.
[2:09:10] » CBF.
[2:09:11] » Thank you. Thank you.
[2:09:13] » Um do we have any uh public comments?
[2:09:16] » Okay, great. Um any further discussion?
[2:09:22] No. Um Madame Clerk, please take role.
[2:09:25] » All in favor?
[2:09:26] » I.
[2:09:27] » All oppose?
[2:09:29] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.
[2:09:31] » Okay, great. Thank you. Uh we'll move on
[2:09:33] to city manager comments and report.
[2:09:35] » We're still on this item agenda
[2:09:37] requests.
[2:09:38] » No,
[2:09:38] » No,
[2:09:39] » No, that was the only item.
[2:09:40] » That was the only one.
[2:09:41] » Can I ask a question?
[2:09:42] » Oh, we went through it.
[2:09:44] » Oh, it has nothing to do with the CBF
[2:09:46] fund though.
[2:09:47] » So, I apologize. Okay, that was a
[2:09:51] question that I had from the city
[2:09:53] attorney, but Paul left was I just
[2:09:57] wanted to know is flock cameras an item
[2:10:00] that's going to be coming up on the
[2:10:01] agenda at some point. Okay, thank you.
[2:10:03] » Yeah.
[2:10:05] » Okay. Um, city manager Oh, comments.
[2:10:09] » Yeah, I kind of want to skip right to
[2:10:12] that, but I'll go through these other
[2:10:13] slates first. Um, I will answer that
[2:10:17] question in a moment, though. Um, so we
[2:10:20] wanted to highlight uh I think it's the
[2:10:21] last movie park movie in the park of the
[2:10:23] year and it I think it's a pretty good
[2:10:25] one at Wimi Beach Park. It'll be Pirates
[2:10:28] of the uh car. Now I'm thinking too much
[2:10:30] about how to say Caribbean Caribbean.
[2:10:35] Uh the Pirates of the Caribbean at Wimi
[2:10:38] Beach Park uh this Saturday at 7:15 p.m.
[2:10:42] So the ones at Wayne Beach Park are
[2:10:44] pretty popular. So, we wanted to remind
[2:10:47] everybody to come out and uh get there
[2:10:49] early to get a spot uh a nice spot on
[2:10:51] the sand. So,
[2:10:54] uh we also wanted to highlight uh in our
[2:10:56] partnership with the Western Ventura
[2:10:58] County uh business alliance, the West
[2:11:00] Ventura County Business Alliance. Um
[2:11:02] this year, uh they're creating a
[2:11:05] category new this year, which is the
[2:11:07] Port Wayne Legacy Award, which is a new
[2:11:09] award under their 2026 business awards
[2:11:12] program. Um and it'll recognize an
[2:11:15] outstanding individual who has
[2:11:16] demonstrated long-term dedication and
[2:11:18] made a transformative economic and
[2:11:20] community impact to the betterment of
[2:11:21] Port Wayne. And so this is new and uh
[2:11:25] we're trying to make sure we get the
[2:11:27] word out because I have a feeling if the
[2:11:28] word was out that there'd be some
[2:11:31] applications that people would want to
[2:11:32] submit. So we wanted to just let
[2:11:34] everybody know that the application
[2:11:36] process is open till Friday, September
[2:11:38] 18th.
[2:11:39] » Well, that's not
[2:11:42] » Yeah. And um we also made sure to
[2:11:46] clarify that uh because they now
[2:11:48] represent Camrio Oxnard and Weini, you
[2:11:50] also could nominate Weani uh residents,
[2:11:54] community members for all the other
[2:11:56] categories, too. But we just want to
[2:11:58] really highlight that there's a Port
[2:11:59] Wimi legacy award that we really want to
[2:12:02] make sure that somebody gets uh
[2:12:04] recognition for.
[2:12:07] Then uh next the following week uh we
[2:12:10] have uh California Coastal Cleanup Day
[2:12:12] on Saturday, September 19th from 9:00 am
[2:12:14] to noon. Um this is always a good event
[2:12:17] with lots of volunteers. So we we invite
[2:12:19] everybody to come join us this year and
[2:12:21] we meet at the Alaska Flight 261
[2:12:23] Memorial and spend the morning uh uh
[2:12:27] participating in coastal cleanup day. So
[2:12:29] wanted to invite everybody to that
[2:12:31] coming up as well.
[2:12:34] And then uh um for the September 21st
[2:12:37] agenda, we have three presentations
[2:12:39] scheduled. National Hispanic Heritage
[2:12:41] Month. Um we have a presentation uh from
[2:12:44] United Water Conservation District that
[2:12:47] uh we uh council had requested and then
[2:12:50] the uh US 101 improvement program
[2:12:52] presentation by the uh Ventura County
[2:12:55] Transportation Commission as well. So
[2:12:57] three interesting presentations.
[2:12:59] For business items, we have the note
[2:13:02] there about um uh I think we're planning
[2:13:06] to bring the community benefit fund item
[2:13:08] back and I think with the the future
[2:13:10] item today, we'll definitely bring it
[2:13:12] back. We haven't gotten a a a
[2:13:15] presentation date yet from EDCVC, but I
[2:13:18] think we'll plan to start the
[2:13:19] conversation regardless and then uh
[2:13:22] we'll try to get them to join us when
[2:13:23] they can rather than hold it up for
[2:13:26] that. So, we'll try to get them there
[2:13:28] the 21st, but if not, we'll we'll bring
[2:13:30] the CBF item back regardless.
[2:13:34] Um, I guess I had on here I didn't
[2:13:36] remember the banner program. So, I guess
[2:13:38] that answers that. So, to council member
[2:13:41] GMA's question, you'll be able to
[2:13:43] provide uh feedback on the banner
[2:13:45] program on that item. I I guess now
[2:13:47] Yeah, I should have remembered that, but
[2:13:49] I didn't. Um, and then uh we did get the
[2:13:52] Cal's conference resolution packet. for
[2:13:55] the first time in probably years, we got
[2:13:56] that ahead of the conference. So, we'll
[2:13:59] bring that to council for approval as
[2:14:01] well. And then um the uh answer to the
[2:14:05] question a moment ago is we have
[2:14:07] received two future agenda item
[2:14:08] requests. I don't normally list the
[2:14:11] future agenda item requests, but I knew
[2:14:13] that the um flock question is a question
[2:14:16] on a lot of people's minds. So, uh one
[2:14:19] of the requests is for automated lo
[2:14:20] license plate reader options. I will
[2:14:22] note um that
[2:14:25] uh our um our department our police
[2:14:29] department and I have been talking about
[2:14:32] trying to change from flock for a few
[2:14:35] reasons. So
[2:14:38] uh we may actually try to bring a change
[2:14:42] um sooner rather than later. Um uh but
[2:14:45] uh we we did receive the feature
[2:14:47] request. Um, so one way or another,
[2:14:49] we'll talk about that on the on the 20
[2:14:51] or we'll be able to talk about that a
[2:14:52] little bit on the 21st. And then the
[2:14:55] there was a second request for ebike
[2:14:57] safety and regulationsformational
[2:14:59] report. So that'll be a a future request
[2:15:02] with the license plate reader option
[2:15:04] maybe becoming a business item if uh
[2:15:07] we're able to to get a hold of a couple
[2:15:10] key people on that. Yep.
[2:15:12] So, those are going to be on an that
[2:15:14] we'll vote to put on an agenda or
[2:15:16] they're already coming.
[2:15:17] » The ebike one is going to be a vote. The
[2:15:21] license plate reader may be a a vote on
[2:15:24] whether to put it on agenda or we might
[2:15:26] actually already have an option we want
[2:15:28] to recommend changing to.
[2:15:30] » Okay. So, we've been uh for the last few
[2:15:33] weeks, we were contacting some
[2:15:35] alternative options and trying to find
[2:15:36] some some different options after, you
[2:15:39] know, I think everybody knows like Flock
[2:15:41] had their um leak and then policy or you
[2:15:45] know, privacy concerns on Flock as a
[2:15:47] whole. So, we started to look at
[2:15:49] alternative options and this morning we
[2:15:51] had a good conversation about one. So,
[2:15:53] we'll try to we we might be able to
[2:15:55] bring that back by September 21st.
[2:15:58] » And then we'll also have
[2:16:01] We'll have El Nino um at this point. I
[2:16:04] don't want to commit to that on the 21st
[2:16:07] yet
[2:16:07] » Just for the future.
[2:16:08] » But for future Yeah.
[2:16:11] And just because uh there's a few
[2:16:14] departments that we probably have to
[2:16:16] include in that. So I'm not sure what
[2:16:17] the timing is. All right. But that's the
[2:16:20] plan for the 21st and that's all I have.
[2:16:26] If not, we'll move on to council member
[2:16:27] reports comments.
[2:16:31] » Um, Wayne Housing, Inc. Um, we we did
[2:16:35] purchase a property um in a gated
[2:16:38] community and did all cash offer for
[2:16:41] low-income housing. Um, what we're not
[2:16:44] doing, you know, the goal is to to
[2:16:48] provide low-inccome housing. And I think
[2:16:49] this this really helps this council as
[2:16:52] well as meeting our our reign of
[2:16:54] numbers. Um, so it was good to to to be
[2:16:58] able to purchase a a property and uh
[2:17:02] immediately offer up for section 8. Uh,
[2:17:04] there's going to be a little bit of work
[2:17:05] that needs to be done by that, but u uh
[2:17:09] we do have a uh
[2:17:12] a five-year visioning uh program or um
[2:17:15] meeting that we're going to be having
[2:17:16] here soon. and uh and we'll be
[2:17:19] presenting back to the council what what
[2:17:22] the goals are for Wayne Housing Inc. and
[2:17:25] uh specifically like Willowbrook um and
[2:17:30] how Wayne Housing Inc. is uh is viewed,
[2:17:33] you know, like what how how our
[2:17:35] structure is and uh so looking forward
[2:17:37] to that meeting and and you know and
[2:17:39] brainstorming with the other board
[2:17:41] members and bringing all that back to
[2:17:42] council. That's all I have.
[2:17:45] » Yes. And to follow on that, we're
[2:17:47] planning our first fundraiser for Wayne
[2:17:49] Housing, Inc. We're going to try to have
[2:17:51] one fundraiser a year to try to increase
[2:17:54] revenue so that we can have plenty of
[2:17:56] income to improve our properties that we
[2:17:58] have and to add more properties to our
[2:18:01] our profile. Um, also we had our first
[2:18:04] food share Salvation Army uh at Marv
[2:18:07] Vista with the in conjunction with the
[2:18:10] Wayne Housing Inc. Alliance Club and
[2:18:12] that was very successful and that is on
[2:18:14] the third Thursday of the month from now
[2:18:17] it'll be from 1 to 2 at Mar Vista for
[2:18:19] anybody who wants to come and volunteer
[2:18:22] but that was very successful and the
[2:18:24] residents were very thankful
[2:18:31] » In um in a beach cleanup we noticed that
[2:18:36] the trash cans at the beach are very
[2:18:37] stinky and I'm wondering if we've ever
[2:18:40] used that service that cleans out the
[2:18:42] trash cans. Um, it's just a question
[2:18:45] maybe you could look into, but um,
[2:18:47] they're pretty pretty nasty. Um, and
[2:18:50] then earlier this week on September 1st,
[2:18:52] I got a phone call from a friend of mine
[2:18:54] that lives closer to the port for me and
[2:18:55] he thought, "Hey, I I think I smell
[2:18:57] natural gas." And I'm like, "Well, call
[2:18:59] this number and report report the the
[2:19:01] matter." And I was sitting up in my
[2:19:03] bedroom and then suddenly I began to
[2:19:05] smell natural gas. So, I phoned the gas
[2:19:08] company and the gas company came out and
[2:19:10] investigated it and I think 10 people
[2:19:12] may have called in and um the fire
[2:19:15] department got involved. Eventually, the
[2:19:18] investigator for the Southern California
[2:19:20] Gas came to my doorstep and said, "We
[2:19:22] traced it back to the port. It's not
[2:19:24] natural gas." And uh I think the harbor
[2:19:28] master informed them that um it's a
[2:19:33] fueling operation that goes on every
[2:19:35] Tuesday. So the message that the
[2:19:37] investigated me was get used to it and
[2:19:42] » Made my husband sick.
[2:19:43] » Yeah. And and you know numerous people
[2:19:47] were spelling it. Didn't didn't phone it
[2:19:49] in. But uh but the bottom line is they
[2:19:52] traced it back to the port. Apparently
[2:19:53] it has to do with diesel fuel transfers.
[2:19:56] Um and this whole idea of get used to it
[2:20:00] on Tuesday nights. I think that's
[2:20:02] completely inadequate. So I don't know.
[2:20:04] We're still waiting to hear from the
[2:20:06] port. So, I wish they would give us
[2:20:08] information because it literally blanket
[2:20:10] blanketed the area right here on the
[2:20:13] left side of Wayne Road. So, we're still
[2:20:16] looking for answers. So, if the port, if
[2:20:17] you're listening, could you please let
[2:20:19] us residents know what what's going on?
[2:20:23] That's it.
[2:20:26] Um, I don't have any uh reports on
[2:20:28] meetings, but I do want to share with
[2:20:30] you that I had the pleasure of attending
[2:20:32] the uh grand opening of the new Filipino
[2:20:35] Cultural Center that's over here on um
[2:20:38] Wanimi Road. What a beautiful place and
[2:20:40] what a a nice addition to our city. I
[2:20:43] was so excited to see the potential that
[2:20:46] that's going to bring um of to our to
[2:20:49] our city, not only culturally, but just
[2:20:52] um it's it's a new it's a community that
[2:20:55] um is going to grow and um they have
[2:20:59] murals, they have history um and it's I
[2:21:02] I'm just so excited to have this um this
[2:21:05] center now in in our city and I think
[2:21:07] it's something we can definitely build
[2:21:09] upon. So, if you haven't seen it yet, um
[2:21:12] definitely go check it out. I don't know
[2:21:14] the hours that it's open, but um it's
[2:21:17] just a beautiful facility. The uh
[2:21:20] association bought it. They bought the
[2:21:22] building and uh the uh the board has
[2:21:27] apparently been entrusted with the money
[2:21:29] to keep it going and they've certainly
[2:21:31] if you look at it, you they've invested
[2:21:33] a lot in it already. So, uh I think it's
[2:21:36] going to be around for a long time. So,
[2:21:37] just wanted to share that. ini
[2:21:40] » Right here on Yeah.
[2:21:42] » Is it Isn't it near Anna Capuccino?
[2:21:44] » Yeah, it's in that Ana Cappuccino.
[2:21:50] » Okay,
[2:21:50] » That's all I have. Thank you.
[2:21:51] » Great. Thank you. And I don't have
[2:21:53] anything to add. Um I've been attending
[2:21:54] my monthly meetings and nothing to
[2:21:56] report out specifically for Port Wine.
[2:21:59] Um so is there anything else? If not
[2:22:02] nothing else, we're we're going to
[2:22:04] adjourn uh this meeting to our next
[2:22:06] scheduled meeting September 21st at
[2:22:08] 6:30. So the meeting is now adjourned.
[2:22:11] It's 8:49.