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if anybody would like to speak during
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just write your name down

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this one yeah it is 6:30 pm. on Monday
December 1st or excuse me December 11th

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uh 20123 I'm going to call the meeting
of the port tourist common Council to

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order before we do the pledge um 10
years ago when I was inaugurated um I

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had asked uh Mr seagull's grandchildren
um that were alive I should say or young

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or old enough old enough to be able to
do it Emma was seven and Johnny was four

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and since this is my last meeting I've
asked Emma and Johnny to come back to

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lead us in the pledge Emma is now 17 and
Johnny is now 14 so if you guys would

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like to come up and I really truly
appreciate

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it please rise for the

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pledge to the flag of the United States
of America and to the Republic for which

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it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all God Bless America it was very much
an honor guys thank you very much

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welcome
back don't stay away so long right are

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you inviting them to join the council no
they can leave

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now okay um roll call Mr Foster M Foster
first word council president

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Liz Miller first W council president
misser second councel presid Maria man

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second council president Stan s council
at large presid Kelly Decker mayor

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presid Tim Simmons fourth W council
president Melissa newuser fourth W

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Council
presor counil thank you uh we have three

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public hearings uh the first is a
continuance uh for the public hearing of

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local law 13 of 2023 decree article 3
chapter 4 430 of short-term rentals um

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I'll entertain a motion to open so Move
Motion by Mr Simmons second by Mr

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seagull discussion all in favor opposed
so carried um this is gone back to code

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I know that uh it has bounced back and
forth between Corporation Council and

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our building department um I spoke with
uh members of the new Council and the

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new mayor and uh they'll take it up in
um in January so what we're going to do

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is we're going to keep this do you want
to keep it open because we it's got to

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be discussed yes also I spoke with the
planning board attorney city planning

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board attorney they expect to have some
comments to us after December 19th

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perfect um so that actually will
probably fall as in uh in planning three

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of 2024 and I'll explain the what one
and two will be um I'll entertain a

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motion to keep the public uh meeting
open moot by Mr Mr Simmons second by Mr

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seagull discussion all public hearing
open yes all in favor opposed so carried

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thanks uh we have set a real property
exemption for First Responders I need a

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motion to open second motion by Mr
Simmons second by Mr seagull discussion

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all in favor opposed so carried um you
have all the paperwork on this in

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regards to
um this will be budgeted in the

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2025 budget um as we discussed this
we're having the public hearing tonight

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uh so to allow the coun the next Council
the um affordability of of the first

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meeting to pass this if they choose to
this is for a local law providing for

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partial tax exemption upon real property
based upon the owners uh volunteer

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membership in the port JIS fire
department or the port JIS ambulance

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pursuant to section
466a of the real property tax law uh

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anyone from the council with any
comments yes sir um I think this is a

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really good program for uh our local
fire departments and EMS workers because

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um a lot of other communities are able
to afford uh what's referred to as a

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lowp program where
um money is is is put away so that at a

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certain point in time uh there's like a
retirement benefit for lack of a better

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term to those uh to those individuals
who are First

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Responders um unfortunately we're not in
a financial position to establish such a

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thing here uh and I think this is the
next best thing to that uh a lot of

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people put in a lot of time um
to keep our community safe myself I know

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I've got s years in the fire department
Stan's got over 50 and uh Dennis is

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right up there although he's not here
tonight the mayor's been involved with

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the fire department and and the
Ambulance Corp um and it's just a small

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way to to get back I believe thank you
thank you anyone else yeah um Tim's

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right and this might be a great
opportunity for people in the community

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would like to get involved with the port
J Fire Department like to said we're

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we're
aging um I'll have 60 years next year

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getting tired but I love doing it um but
we need Young Blood we need people with

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more energy than us old people so if
there's anybody out there go to any

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Firehouse get an application they're
online you can email me text me I'll

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send you an application but we're really
desperate because we're losing more

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firefighters than we're getting in and
it's really important to provide that

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service um as a
volunteer group uh we can't afford a

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paid fire department so we need more
volunteers so I encourage anybody that's

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interested come to a firehouse see what
goes on we can explain um what you have

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to do unfortunately there's a lot of
training hours but once you get past

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those training hours you're fully
equipped to be a firefighter to help our

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community so once again if you're
interested please contact the firehouse

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or myself or any a firan and we will get
you an application thank you thank you

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anybody else from the council anybody
from the public that would like to speak

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on this matter sir come up to the podium
please state your

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name hi my name's Craig
fan uh I think it's a great idea to to

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help the firewor they're doing a service
to the community and I think that's

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great unfortunately I I don't think this
is the greatest way to do it because it

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has no connection it's a it's reward
that has no connection to their service

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so you say you need young people there
might young people might be renting they

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won't get any benefit from this at all
um and a person that's been here a long

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time maybe isn't contributing as much
might have a big house he going to

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benefit a lot so it seems like that
disconnect bothers me a little bit and

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and um I know this is prompted by the
state law that allows this and you're

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sort of limited to the 10% that that's
the specification of state law um my one

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suggestion maybe would be to partially
uh address those concerns maybe to put a

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cap on it at uh 10% of the median
assessment value that way the the

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wealthy person that maybe doesn't need
it as much wouldn't get as much benefit

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and then you could keep the tax rate a
little bit lower so the people that

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weren't getting as much benefit that's
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um that's that's my main point I I again
I wish there was a better way that you

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you could just pay them directly and
that would most corre Fairway but um

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again that's my
comment so uh thank you very much just

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uh so you know under our assess value uh
it would come out to for all the all the

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firefighters and ambulance um by the way
I believe you had to you have to be two

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years yeah that's part I guess I don't
know I haven't seen the actual text of

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the requirements but the total amount
cost to the city is $32,400 okay okay I

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figured it was fairly modest amount but
I thank you to and it has to be primary

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residence correct anyone else from the
public not hearing I'll entertain a

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motion to close the public hearing
motion by Mr Simmons second by Mr

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seagull discussion all in favor opposed
so carried uh our last public hearing is

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on the 2024 budget as many people may
have seen that we went ahead and passed

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the budget uh last last uh last meeting
not realizing that we did have um

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assigned public comment and public
hearing during the workshops but it

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wasn't technically correct so we had to
make sure that we we did it so we're

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having a public hearing now on the 2024
budget and then it'll be presented to

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the council again uh for a vote so I'll
entertain a motion to open the public

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hearing motion by Miss Miller and second
by Mr Simmons discussion

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all in favor opposed so carried is
anybody from this this budget is

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um this was a presented to them as a
four the council as a

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4.23% uh tax levy on the general fund uh
it is now a

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4.16 which is being presented to them
tonight um is there anybody from the

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council that like to

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comment not hearing is there anybody
from the public that would like to

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comment yeah
one please come up to the microphone

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please state your

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name hi I'm Joan McBride I'm sure you
all remember me I've been here

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before um just so that you know there is
somebody that's

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watching um
this budget hearing does not follow the

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city
Charter according to the city

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Charter um honored before the 10th day
of November in each year the common

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Council shall give notice of a public
hearing on the proposed budget such

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notice shall be published in the
official City newspaper once at least 5

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days before such public hearing is held
in no event shall the public hearing on

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the tenative budget be held later than
the 30th day of November in each

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year so far you're ahead of the rest of
it but that one you didn't

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follow um also there were a lot of
questions at the last

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Workshop there was a lot of it about the
revenue and as far as I know it the

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budget has been passed away is and none
of the questions that the lady asked

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about the revenue has been

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answered thank you thank
you you want make any comments on that

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technically that's what the charter says
um unfortunately there was mix up

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everyone thought that the public hearing
notice had been published and the public

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hearing was held in time I believe in
past years this is just anecdotal

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information times when the public
hearing notice was not presented byv I

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can tell most of the years lot of the
years so what MCB said about the timing

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on that aspect of it is technically
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no although it is technically not up to
what the charter says the budget being

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passed before the you know within
December is is generally accepted as far

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as the revenue questions know if they
were

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addressed you know if they were
addressed yeah they were addressed with

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the individual um I had a conversation
with her separately and they were

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addressed and
amended thank you anybody else from the

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public not hearing any I'll entertain a
motion to close the public hearing on

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the 2024
budget motion by Miss Miller second

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second by Mr Simmons discussion all in
favor opposed so carried

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we have before us tonight our Orange
County Clerk Kelly escu and she's here

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to talk about our DMV and then give us
an update good Flo's yours thank you

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good evening first I wanted to um
congratulate mayor dear on his uh 10

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years of service to uh the city of Port
JIS I have a certificate of appreciation

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signed by myself and legislator F oh
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you

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and then I wanted to just update you on
how the mobile unit has been doing and

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then the new brick and mortar that we'll
be opening so the the mobile has been in

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service since April of um this year and
to date we have done

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1,717 transactions we average about 200
a month you know give or take sometimes

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it's 300 sometimes it's 100 but never
less than 160 so it's been very well

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received
um the residents are very happy to have

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us back in Port Jervis and during this
time we've been working on the um the

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brook and mortar which is in the
government center on Sussex Street so

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that has been a big a big lift so we are
ready to open except we are waiting for

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equipment so I just wanted to let you
know and the equipment is beyond my

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control it's New York State DMV has to
go through procurement process which we

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all know how long that can take we were
hoping to be open um by January 1st I'm

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that's not going to happen but it will
be shortly thereafter I can't give you a

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date because you know how that is oh
Kelly said we'd be open and we're not so

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I just wanted to let you know that um
the mobile unit no one Waits outside in

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the cold they wait in their cars and the
security guard calls them over when it's

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their turn to go into the unit because I
know we're getting into uh cold weather

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also they can wait inside the building
there's a Lobby in a hallway it's not

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huge but if someone walks and doesn't
have a car they would be able to wait

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inside the building so um I just want to
say this has been a big project we've

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worked very hard we're very proud to be
coming back to Port JIS I know there is

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the need here and um we've been working
hard on it and I want to thank members

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of the city council that have worked
with me to bring this back here it's

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been uh it's been a great project so
Madam clerk I want to thank you and

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thank you for keeping me appraised of
everything along the way and I we really

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do appreciate it and we appreciate it
coming back to Port chis have any

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questions any questions yeah um I
contacted the state commissioner about

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the equipment I didn't get an answer yet
but I went

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there oh God a month ago after I had a
stroke and had difficulty navigating

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steps no one told me that I could sit in
my car stood out in the rain uh people

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that were there also stood out in the
rain there's no signage there to tell

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anybody they could go in the building
it's getting cold I think there should

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be some sort of a canopy or a popup or
something to provide for the people that

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are waiting to go in there and some
accommodation needs to be made for

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accessibility for this disabled there is
a handicap onap well no I didn't know

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that the guy just said come on up come
on up and I'm like there's a big sign

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kep blue sign I didn't see it like an
elevator lifts you up just it's just

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very awkward it's hard to believe it
could take this long for the equipment

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to come I I get a lot of complaints
about it um and and not much we can do

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if you're waiting for equipment and the
state hasn't gotten back we don't even

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know when that's going to be I just
think it's I think we could do better

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for our residen here you have to take
New York State and her hands are tied

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yor we could do
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on the building there's amount on the
building on the unit that can come out

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when it's windy it retracts it's for a
safety reason there's all sorts of

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things built into the unit I have not
had one complaint except for you Mr seel

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about the mobile unit not because
they're coming to me that's why well I

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go all over Orange County if no one's
complaining to me not any other

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municipality because it doesn't just go
here it goes all over I get it and but

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the thing is here twice a week the the
thing the problem is that here we had a

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we had an indoor
facility and people were accustomed to

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that and we don't have that we but
they're working on it we're we're

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getting it her hands are tied but it's
I'm not blaming anybody I'm just

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bringing for the complaints concerns
that I get called into me it's that

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simple and I will contact the
commissioner tomorrow cler that Orange

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County's ever had so I have that's
absolutely true than thank you very much

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thank
you okay I have no appointments uh we

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have executive session uh oh I'm sorry
public comment uh public

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comment she doesn't trust them send it
back send it to her tomorrow sometimes I

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well sometimes I forget to send it to
her after I take Miss McBride I already

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did that okay thank

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you
Craig I don't know how you say your last

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name FIA FIA fan okay are you here go
okay Mr

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Cox five minutes
right

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time okay good evening everyone my name
is Michael Cox ladies and gentlemen and

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count common Council Ste Mike you can
push that mik up

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citizens

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won congratulations mayor Decker on your
years of service to our city while

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acknowledging your dedication it is
essential to highlight that it came at

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the expense of the taxpayers you've made
may have done what you think is a lot

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for the city but in reality it has been
more for yourself family and friends

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rather than the taxpayers and those who
have helped you get in this position

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along the way you've made nepotism
disguised bribes as raises and favor ISM

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for friends including protecting
individuals who have lied under oath the

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norm and common practice I'm here to
advocate for my grandmother who damages

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to her home caused the city of Port
Jervis an exceed of

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$250,000 and remained unaddressed
leaving her nearly bankrupt and indebted

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to loans to repair her property a broken
pipe at her home is concealed beneath a

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mere temporary bandage and yet to be
addressed and is still leaking the issue

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is particularly disheartening for my
grandmother who as an immigrant arriving

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in this country almost 60 years ago and
have worked tirelessly with their

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husband to say for a secure
future who have worked tirelessly to

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secure a a secure future now almost all
their hard-earned savings are on the

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verge of depletion due to this ongoing
predicament in response to my concerns

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which I posted on the mayor's Facebook
page expressing my wish that the mayor

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would advocate for my grandmother like
he has done for others the mayor has

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offered a private response on his
Facebook St and Michael not on my

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personal Facebook page you have part of
a story and have no idea what I've done

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or what I have or haven't done as City
administrator on the situation but Mr

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Mayor there has been countless insurance
claims made and no denial letter

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received which goes against New York
state law Laura quick even told my

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mother City Hall will deny any claims
moving forward Mr Mayor is this the norm

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it was also stated by you that you
brought this to the common Council years

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ago everyone I spoke to denies that and
as has no recol recollection of even

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this but Mr may you are correct I may
not have all the details but what I do

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know is that as the leader of our city
you bear the responsibility for the

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welfare of its citizens my grandmother a
model taxpayer and homeowner is left

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practically bankrupt and both you and
the DPW have done nothing this has gone

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on for years now have you instructed
them to back off what I do know is that

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it appears mayor that you're committing
a d elction of Duty leaving my

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grandmother to handle everything on her
own with the assistance of my mother it

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raises the question are you truly
helping or are you protecting

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individuals who may have lied on sworn
affidavits given that you are the DP you

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and the DPW were on our property even
after behind it I've even included

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photos on your Facebook post that I made
as proof these photos interestingly

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enough were taken by the city and
attained by foiling mayor you're the

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driving force behind the wheel here and
the buck stops with you after countless

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pleas to you and the DPW no efforts on
your end have been made this rebuttal is

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easy for you to say since you have done
nothing and are so Adept to diverging

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from the
truth who have you helped besides

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yourself in a Selected Few Mr may you
forgotten those who help you along the

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way most importantly the taxpayers and
those who voted voted for you like my

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elderly grandmother in the past what I
now know is that you're the definition

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of corrupt people see through your
disingenuous AC

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actions as we welcome mayor elect ciss I
extend my congratulations on your

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Victory I hope you can learn for Mr
Decker's wrongdoings and in particular

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assist in mediating the current problem
my grandmother has been battling myn I

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acknowledging her and many others in the
city that have been duped by the current

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mayor it would mean a lot after all it
would be the right thing to do it would

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also help restore faith and trust back
into our local government something that

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has been lost and only known to those
who have been in the only know to those

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who have been in the orbit of Mayor deer
as the new mayor I believe if you remain

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honest and prior prioritize the
well-being of the taxpayers you'll be

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met with success corruption ER erodes
the very fabric of our community and I

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trust you will uphold the values that
poor JIS deserves by putting the city

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before yourself family and friends I
wish you the best of luck Mr CES now Mr

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Mayor I'm sure you will say the Court
ruled in the city's favor since there is

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no notice a claim filed or incident
report made within 3 months of the

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city's city of Port J doing its initial
work on it upon our property on my

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grandmother's property in which the
corrugated pipe was attached to very old

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clay in which the corrugated pipe was
attached to the Very Old Clay pipe that

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was found snapped and drained eight
after eight years of rainwater ran into

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my grandmother's property thus far it
has not been permanently repaired

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we do know that prior that prior to the
city coming on the property and

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completing this work eight years ago
there was never any kind of existing

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damage or existing problem of any kind
we also know that you were on the we

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also know that you were on the property
along with the DPW and could have told

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my grandmother to file a notice of claim
there is even documentation from 2012

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made by Mr Mr Fuller our engineer
stating the property was in good

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standing when a roof was being rebuilt
ultimately it takes more than 3 months

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for erosion to present itself due to
water over the last two years there have

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been additional two more notice of claim
submitted by Toral quick for ongoing

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water damages from the unrepaired pipe
there has been no response it is sad

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that no City official comes until you're
leening the problem yourself and

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uncovering the damage and uncovering the
damaged utilities what are your ulterior

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motives Mr Mayor because we know the
problem exists but we're left to be

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blamed for damages is this how we run
our city as an esteemed administrator Mr

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Mayor thank you

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everyone okay uh we will move into
executive session I have five Personnel

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matters two
contractual um I'd like to invite in the

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police chief as as well as any member of
the new Council what's your pleasure

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motion by M Miller seconded by Mr
Simmons discussion all in favor opposed

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so carried we shouldn't be too

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long

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oh