[0:55] Hey, everybody, we're gonna get started. It is 07:00 so
[1:02] I'm going to call the meeting to order. We start
[1:05] off in a good way with this territorial land acknowledgment,
[1:08] the City of Port Moody carries out our business on
[1:10] the ancestral and unseated homelands of the quake. Whitlam slail
[1:14] Wattooth Musquium squamish. Kate C. Quantlin, kikate and stolo peoples
[1:20] and extends. Appreciation for the opportunity to work on this
[1:23] territory. Next item is adoption of the agenda. Although I
[1:27] believe that, Madam Clerk, there is an amendment. For a
[1:32] title change for one of. The proposed motions. Thank you,
[1:36] Mary. Lady, we just request a motion that the agenda
[1:39] be amended by. Replacing the memo provided in the agenda
[1:42] package for item 11.2, which should be titled UBCM advocacy
[1:48] housing as a human right. And that the item title
[1:52] provides accordingly. Thank you. So, as amended, it's been moved
[1:57] and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Now, anyone who's
[2:02] here has probably been hearing the drum beats in the
[2:05] background. So at this point in time, before we move
[2:08] on with the rest, of the agenda we are actually
[2:10] going to take. A short recess to watch the Port
[2:13] Moody Secondary school blue thunder marching drum line and then
[2:17] they're going to come back and we'll have a little
[2:19] chat with them. So we'll recess at this point and
[2:21] everybody can go out and watch the drum line.
[11:37] Nice and loud. Yeah. Well.
[11:48] They wouldn't really have a spot.
[12:29] Just wait for everybody to come in and we'll get
[12:31] started.
[12:48] Right, so we're going to reconvene the meeting. So before
[12:52] we go. To the representative. From the blue Thunder marching
[12:58] drum line. I'm going to go to councilor Agtrap. Who's
[13:01] going to give us a little bit of information. And
[13:04] then you'll be welcomed up to the podium. Great. Thank
[13:07] you. We are very delighted to have Corey Smith and
[13:10] the Port Moody Secondary School blue. Thunder indoor march chain
[13:13] drum line here tonight, and we especially enjoyed the live
[13:16] performance in front of city hall just now. And for
[13:19] those of you online, you can check them out on
[13:21] YouTube. Founded in 2022, the Port Moody Blue Thunder Drum
[13:26] Line is a small group of students from Port Moody
[13:28] Secondary School, who are dedicated to exploring the marching arts
[13:31] and supporting the school. And community through Drumline, the Blue
[13:35] center drumline participates in a wide variety of events and
[13:38] competitions such as supporting centennial secondary football team, playing at
[13:41] school and music program, fundraising events around town competing at
[13:45] regional and provincial level competitions and performing for community events
[13:48] such as Port Moody Shuffle and the Canada Day celebrations.
[13:52] The drum line is one of. Only three drum lines
[13:54] in the province capable of competing at the premier class
[13:57] level in Canadian Drumline association competitions, making it one of
[14:01] the top groups in the province. Each year, the ensemble
[14:05] creates an original show and. That they compete with in
[14:08] the spring. This year. The show is titled. Witches and
[14:12] wizards and drums Omai and is a journey through the
[14:14] magical world of Harry Potter. The sorcerer's apprentice. And, of
[14:18] course, wizard of Oz. And wicked, welcome Corey in the
[14:21] blue. Thunder drum line. We look forward to learning more
[14:23] about your accomplishments. Thank you very much. Pleasure to come
[14:30] out and perform for you all today. The kids were
[14:33] looking forward to it for a long time. My name
[14:36] is Corey Smith, director of instrumental music over at Port
[14:39] Moody Secondary School, as well as the director of operations
[14:42] BC for the Canadian Drumline association. Drumline is a major
[14:47] passion of mine that I've developed over the years, having
[14:51] watched my grandfather run drum lines in California. I was
[14:55] able to bring it here to Port Moody after having
[14:58] one in West Vancouver for a number of years and
[15:02] very grateful that I did so that we can contribute
[15:04] to events like this. And all of our. Local activities
[15:09] that we do. So just a quick background. I know,
[15:13] actually, that covered a lot of what we do, which
[15:15] is. Great this year. The drum line. So this is
[15:18] our third year in operation. We finished third in the
[15:22] province out of 30 drum lines, which was. Pretty spectacular
[15:27] for us, considering the other two schools that beat us
[15:31] have been around for 2025. Years or more. So these
[15:35] kids. Thank you. So these kids have put in an
[15:39] exceptional amount of work to get to that level. What
[15:42] you saw today. It's taken them three years to develop.
[15:48] The skills. Just about every single one of those members
[15:50] started in grade nine, and now they're. In grade eleven,
[15:53] moving into grade twelve. We've got a couple of levels
[15:56] of marching. We've got a junior drum line that now
[15:58] feeds into this senior group. With the hope of expanding
[16:02] the whole program at Port Moody secondary to a full
[16:04] marching band program. Next year. So if there are any
[16:08] parades in town that you need a marching ensemble for,
[16:12] please. Think of us. And thank you again for having
[16:15] us. Please stay, because I see that there are some
[16:18] counselors that have their hands up. I just want to
[16:22] commend you for placing third that your organization, the kids,
[16:26] for coming. Third in the province. That's quite an accomplishment.
[16:30] I was so impressed. By. The, I guess, the choreography
[16:36] and just the rhythm that was provided. It was really
[16:39] enjoyable to watch. I'm a parent of kids that play
[16:42] in a drum line as well. And we can talk
[16:45] about that later, but. It was really fun. And congratulations
[16:50] again. So I'm going to go to councilor Knowles. Thank
[16:55] you so much for that. And it's such a lovely
[16:58] evening for it. I feel bad for anyone who was
[17:02] joining. Us online tonight because they really missed out. So
[17:04] this is the benefit of showing up to meetings. In
[17:06] person, people. Yeah. It's just. Got me all sorts of
[17:12] feelings here, and just about the work you do for
[17:14] our students and. For our youth that is so important.
[17:18] I have two daughters in middle school, and I'm already
[17:19] thinking, like, how can I get you to go to
[17:21] their school? Where do they need to go to school?
[17:25] So I really appreciate people like you who dedicate their
[17:27] time to arts like this. I just. Had a quick
[17:30] question, actually. On the side, there was a fellow playing
[17:34] a really long bunch of pipes, and I just want.
[17:37] To show what that's called. Chimes or tubular bells? Tubular
[17:42] belts. Yeah, tubular belt. I've never seen that before. Yeah,
[17:46] very common in a concert band. But we like to.
[17:49] Integrate as many strange instruments as we can in our
[17:51] drum line. To add to the texture. So my question
[17:55] was, you see these especially in american colleges. You see
[17:58] these gem lines that wander around. Would that be something
[18:02] that he could carry around or was not? Unfortunately not,
[18:05] no. There's two kinds of shows that will perform. There
[18:08] will be field shows. And what you saw today was
[18:11] actually what we call a small format show. Typically, our
[18:14] show will take up an entire basketball court. And so
[18:18] we had to work very hard to compress the essence.
[18:21] Of our show into a 25 by 25 foot square.
[18:25] But for a field show, you would have what's called
[18:27] the front ensemble. So you saw the whole slew of
[18:30] fibrophones. And marimbas and xylophones, and they would typically stay
[18:34] planted while the battery the snare tenor drums all do
[18:38] their walking around for a parade. Show those instrument. Instrumentalists
[18:42] all play either a battery instrument or an auxiliary that
[18:45] they can, or a window, actually. Most of them are
[18:47] wind instruments that they'll play very cool. Thank you for
[18:50] the indication. Yes, absolutely. I was particularly impressed with the
[18:54] young ladies in the front who had multiple batons. Or
[18:58] mallets. And playing several different keys at the same time.
[19:02] It was really formal. A technique is a very tricky
[19:05] thing to learn. Technique. Okay, I'll write that down. They
[19:09] took it upon themselves to learn it, and they asked
[19:11] me to write it into the show this year. So
[19:15] you get to see it in action. Proud we have
[19:18] councilor Dilworth next. Thank you. That was an outstanding performance.
[19:24] I wasn't sure where to look and what to look
[19:27] at and. I saw the keyboardists with their imagining three,
[19:33] four wands playing. There's a gentleman. Banging the hammer on
[19:36] the tube bells. There was the magical movement of the
[19:40] symbols off and it was just as much. I want
[19:44] to say a dance program as much as it was
[19:47] a music program. And hearing the reference afterwards to witches
[19:51] in Harry Potter. I get it even more now. Having
[19:55] heard that. I'm wondering. How long does it actually. Take
[20:01] to get one performance under the belt because. I really
[20:05] have to acknowledge the commitment of your students. There is
[20:09] not a single song sheet in place. These kids have
[20:13] memorized not only the music, their steps, the choreography, and
[20:17] I can only imagine the commitment that it takes to
[20:19] do that on top of part time jobs and studying
[20:22] and tests and all that other stuff. So what is
[20:25] that time? Commitment. And how long does it take your
[20:27] group to get, like, one number solid? It's a long
[20:32] time. We rehearse 3 hours a week. It's actually a
[20:36] course. That the students take. And. We do one large
[20:43] show like that per year. So we start writing next
[20:47] year. Show after our last performance, we start brainstorming what
[20:52] elements do we want? What themes do we want to
[20:54] pull from? And I'll take the summer. To rank the
[20:57] show, and in September I introduce it to the students,
[21:00] and we hope to have them. It's called being off
[21:02] book. So memorized by November ish. Playing the music, and
[21:06] then we set it to choreography. And it's a full
[21:10] year process. And we model it after. Obviously, it's marching
[21:16] culture in the states is very popular and. Our league
[21:21] is modeled after theirs, and that runs from September to
[21:24] April or May. To give the schools enough time to
[21:28] do it. It is very much like running a musical.
[21:31] Because of the dance and the motion and the music
[21:33] and the memorizing of the lines. And you're absolutely right.
[21:38] I even wrote the show. And sometimes I still notice
[21:41] things going. I didn't notice how. Well. Because they come
[21:45] up with their own choreography, really, and it's hard to
[21:48] keep track of. All of it. And seeing. I noticed
[21:51] today the symbol is doing something that I hadn't noticed
[21:53] for. And I noticed symbols today, right? They are fabulous.
[21:57] Well, do you know what? I hope this one performance
[22:00] here really brings a little bit more attention to your
[22:02] group, and I look forward to hearing more, perhaps about
[22:06] a first place performance at next year's competition. So thank
[22:10] you for bringing that down to us. That was really
[22:12] cool. Absolutely. I hope this becomes a tradition. Once you
[22:16] get your performance nailed, come on down. And. We'll get
[22:21] a good. We absolutely will. Thank you very much. We
[22:25] have councilor Morrison next. Thank you, mayor. And a lot
[22:28] of my colleagues have said the same things that I
[22:30] was going to mention. So excellent performance. I really enjoyed
[22:34] actually seeing a performing arts option here for our art
[22:37] at council. As much as we have some amazing artists.
[22:41] And pottery, et cetera, that we see. The council table
[22:44] and writers, oftentimes we don't get that. So that would
[22:49] be the first time I've seen that, I guess in
[22:51] my term on council and going outside. And actually watching
[22:53] a performance like that, so I'd love to get more
[22:55] of that, so. Whoever booked this, please keep your eye
[22:58] out for other options. I also wanted to recognize the
[23:02] choreography was excellent. The fact that there was the opportunity
[23:05] for even the back rows to be able to have
[23:06] their moment to shine was really nice as well with
[23:09] the kneeling down so you could see the players in
[23:11] the back. That was great and really on topic with
[23:15] your music selection between the Harry Potter and the revive
[23:18] of that show coming back soon. And also wicked naturally
[23:22] being pretty popular there. So thank you for presenting for
[23:25] us tonight and showcasing and thank all your students for
[23:28] me. Thank you. Thank you very much, councilor Becky. Thank
[23:32] you. If I feel my colleagues have said, when you
[23:36] say, I usually don't chime in. But I had to
[23:38] this time. That was absolutely incredible. That's one of the
[23:41] best things I've seen in a long time. I have
[23:43] to tell you. It's just absolutely mind blowing. I used
[23:47] to marking culture. I love that. Because you can see
[23:50] how you can see the commitment and the dedication must
[23:52] be part of your everyday life to be able to
[23:55] do that. So I just wanted to congratulate you, obviously.
[23:58] Being able to. Lead these young adults. I'll call them.
[24:03] And guide them to find their own talents. To do
[24:05] something like that is incredible. And congratulations to each and
[24:08] every one of you. And I hope those at home
[24:11] can Google and YouTube. I'm assuming and check you out
[24:14] because it honestly was absolutely incredible. So thank you so
[24:17] much. Thank you so much. And last but not least,
[24:21] I have Councilor Lubeck. Thank you so much. I won't
[24:25] go over what all of my colleagues have said. But
[24:29] it was magical, honestly. And. I was struck they shared
[24:34] talent. And amazing instruments to put together. But there's so
[24:41] much emotion, and that's that wonderful thing about music. Is
[24:46] that you can listen to something and it brings you
[24:48] joy. There's no. Words, but you just can't help but
[24:52] smile or laugh because it's brought that emotion out, and
[24:55] I really appreciate you bringing that to city hall today.
[24:59] Awesome. And best of luck coming in first next year.
[25:01] Thank you. Even if you don't. Place. Come to us.
[25:07] Definitely will. Thank you. Just pass on again. The good
[25:12] wishes from council. There are some pretty cool cats out
[25:15] there. Very much. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you
[25:20] very much. Bye bye. All right, next item on the
[25:24] agenda is public input. As a reminder to members of
[25:34] the public. While we encourage civic engagement and welcome your
[25:37] participation in the public portion of our meeting. There are
[25:40] expectations regarding appropriate conduct in decorum at council meetings. We
[25:44] ask all members of the public to ensure that matters
[25:46] raised with council are constructively focused on issues and not
[25:49] individuals and that any engagement with or about city staff
[25:52] or council is addressed in a manner that is consistent
[25:55] with these expectations so that we can all engage in
[25:58] this space in a manner that. Is respectful and constructive
[26:01] and abides by the city's respectful communications policy and respectful
[26:05] workplace. Policy. We have one name on the speaker's list
[26:08] at this time, and that is Sally. Common. So, Sally,
[26:13] if you can come down. And anybody else who wishes
[26:17] to address council. Can come up to the podium when
[26:22] Sally's completed, and I'm just checking online. I see that
[26:25] there is someone online that has or two people online
[26:27] that have their hands up. So, Sally, please just state
[26:31] your name and city of residence for the record. You
[26:33] have two minutes. Sally common coquitlam. I am here to
[26:39] support item 7.3, the special event support pay parking amendment.
[26:46] As you heard my name. I'm with the Golden Spike
[26:49] Days Festival Society. Our festival has been held at Rocky
[26:54] Point for approximately 40 years. For all of that time,
[26:58] we've been using the parking lot in front of the
[27:00] pool. For our directors, vips such as mps and mlas
[27:05] and also sponsors and entertainers. The purpose of using the
[27:09] lot for these people is not about not wanting to
[27:13] look for a parking, but for ease of use to
[27:16] be able to come and go as many of these
[27:19] people need to do. Directors often need to pop out
[27:22] and to get things. Our dignitaries often have many different
[27:25] events to. Attend in the same day. And need to
[27:31] be able to park quickly and leave conveniently. Entertainers quite
[27:35] often have the same need to be able to be
[27:38] conveniently parked and leave to go to another show, not
[27:42] to mention the musical equipment that they have to carry.
[27:46] Our sponsors deserve to be treated. To a special parking
[27:49] lot for their generosity as well. To have to pay
[27:53] to use for the use of the parking lot, for
[27:56] the extent of the festival would be quite cost prohibitive
[27:59] for our society. Money is already very tight in these
[28:04] uncertain economic times. We hope that. We would be exempt
[28:10] or grandfathered somehow. We support and ask that the pay
[28:14] parking management be amended as requested. Thank you. Thank you.
[28:20] We'll go to online. We have two people online. We'll
[28:27] go to Dr. Darren Jonesen. Please just unmute yourself. State
[28:31] your name and city of residence for the record, and
[28:34] you will. Have two minutes. Thank you, mayor and
[28:43] council. My name is Darren. Jonathan. This is my first
[28:46] time speaking. With city council. I am president elect of
[28:53] BC family doctors, which is. The main advocacy organization for
[28:57] family doctors in the province. I am a drummer myself.
[29:02] I was in pipe band. We didn't, unfortunately, have drumline,
[29:05] and I'm from. Chillowac. So started a secondary school as
[29:09] my alma mater, and they have a drum line. That
[29:13] does quite well as well. That's not the reason I'm
[29:16] here tonight. But I wanted to share just some points
[29:22] with regards to. The agenda item 11.3, which is coming
[29:27] later tonight. Specifically. I just want to thank you for
[29:33] even having this on the agenda. We know. That our
[29:38] health care is in crisis right now across the province.
[29:41] We know that patients are struggling to get access to
[29:46] healthcare resources, and we understand that. It's important that we
[29:51] remove barriers for healthcare access. I think. It's quite. Impressive
[29:58] as a city council. That. You are able to. Change
[30:05] bylaws for housing because you don't have a lot of
[30:08] say over health. Care in general, right? It's a provincially
[30:11] run thing, but as a municipality, to be able. To
[30:16] dedicate space in new builds for primary care clinics. I
[30:22] think. Is genius. I just want to thank you for
[30:26] considering that. I want to show my support as well.
[30:30] Just by letting you know that. In our PC family,
[30:33] doctors will continue to advocate. For. A better primary care
[30:39] system so that hopefully all communities in the province can
[30:43] benefit from. Thank you. For that. Dr. Jonathan, if you
[30:46] could just state your city of residence, please, for the
[30:49] record. Kilowatt BC. Kilowatt. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very
[30:53] much. We'll go to Rowan Burge. Same. Please. Just unmute
[30:59] yourself and state your name. In city of residence. For
[31:01] the record, you will have two minutes. Good evening, everyone.
[31:04] Can you hear me okay? Yes. Thank you so much
[31:08] for having me. I am also a former band person,
[31:11] so definitely going to go check out these dresses. Good
[31:15] evening, everyone. My name is Rowan. I'm a resident of
[31:17] Vancouver, and I'm. Also the provincial director of the BC
[31:20] poverty reduction coalition. We are a coalition of 80 plus
[31:24] member. Organizations across species that, at the fee for food
[31:26] security, adequate housing, and wider antique poverty measures for the
[31:30] province to ensure that everyone has their needs and rights
[31:33] met. I'm calling in support today of agenda item 11.2
[31:38] on the UBCM. Advocacy around housing is equal and right,
[31:41] which is a timely and common sense motion. As I'm
[31:44] sure all of you folks are already aware the housing
[31:46] crisis has profoundly impacted our communities, making it very difficult
[31:50] for people to access the affordable and appropriate housing. The
[31:53] affordability crisis. Is leading people very hard, and those at
[31:56] the lower end of the income spectrum need your leadership.
[31:59] To ensure safe housing for all. As a renter myself,
[32:02] I know firsthand how challenging it can be to find
[32:04] an affordable long term apartment. The housing crisis touches every
[32:08] level of government, but none more acutely. Assembly, I urge
[32:11] you to join your voice. To leverage your position, the
[32:15] policymakers at the forefront of housing decisions and call the
[32:18] new potential counterparts to treat housing as a human right.
[32:21] The urgency of a rights based approach has a potential
[32:23] to spur investment, cut Redsk and its full frost jurisdictional
[32:27] collaboration to ensure that everybody has a fully and affordable
[32:31] placement. I urge you to support the motion as presented
[32:34] and support to EBC for a more closed discussion encouraging
[32:38] the province to recognize housing rights that substantial to offer
[32:41] profound benefit to the people of Port Moody and also
[32:44] our province as a whole. It is the province. There's
[32:47] public support for housing and. Right, which helps us does
[32:49] housing. Justice defense. Poverty advocates continue critically advocating for better
[32:54] living conditions. Thank you so much for your consideration and
[32:57] leadership on this critical matter. Really appreciate your time. Thank
[33:00] you. Thank you. All right, at this time. We have
[33:08] another person online, Mr. Mark Coonsley. Please just state your
[33:13] name and city of residence for the record, Mr. Coonsley.
[33:17] Mark Kunsley, Port Moody. I'm out of town tonight, so
[33:21] sorry to join virtually you missed the drum line. I
[33:26] do want to speak in support of 11.7. I do
[33:30] feel a town hall for the official community plan doesn't
[33:32] make sense. I was not able to join the session
[33:36] with staff because I do work out of town. And
[33:39] I think just in general, the official community plan. It
[33:42] represents the community. We should be able to accommodate as
[33:45] many voices as possible. And many formats as possible. Shapes
[33:50] the future of our city grows. They spend a lot
[33:54] of discussion on it at multiple council meetings. And this
[33:58] plan, now that it's been drafted and having that opportunity
[34:01] for input, the back and forth with counselors I think
[34:05] is valuable. There's not really opportunities for two way communication
[34:10] such as this public input. I'm speaking to you, but
[34:12] I don't get to ask questions that get answers. I
[34:15] do appreciate that I did have a good conversation with
[34:17] Amir earlier today, so thank you for that, Merrick. And
[34:20] I think a lot of that information would be a
[34:22] benefit to the community. And the form, like a town
[34:26] hall, would allow a lot of it to come to
[34:28] light, so. Yeah, I hope to see the council of
[34:31] Abscess, and I hope to be able to. Participate in
[34:34] town hall on the OCP. Thank you very much. Thank
[34:36] you. At this point, I'm going to open up for
[34:39] anybody who wishes to provide input to council. Good evening.
[34:45] Please just state your name and city of residence for
[34:48] the boy. Report Moody. Counselors and mayor. I do not
[34:55] play the drums. I do not play any instrument. However,
[34:58] I am a huge supporter. Of live local music. So,
[35:02] having said that, I just want to talk about two
[35:05] events I attended recently. The Triacity's writers festival was amazing
[35:11] this year. I was fortunate enough to be able to
[35:14] attend. The cocktail party at the Evergreen Theater in Coquitlam.
[35:20] It was a fabulous event. $20. Oh, my gosh. They
[35:24] could have charged double that. I should have said that.
[35:26] I guess, but it was wonderful. It was Jen. I
[35:32] can never say her name. Probably Jen Sukfung Lee that
[35:35] took. Me. There she was on a panel with two
[35:37] other gentlemen, moderated by. Another author. Comedian. It was just
[35:44] a wonderful evening. And then right here. At the inlet
[35:48] theater. We unfortunately had one third hall full for an
[35:54] award winning Canada, Reed's author. Danny Ram and Dan, a
[36:00] syrian refugee. A wonderful personal story. He was playing and
[36:06] he was brought tears to our eyes. He made us
[36:09] laugh. He was interesting. He had it all rolled into
[36:13] one thing, and he came to us on his birthday.
[36:17] They were both wonderful. Advance. I encourage you to attend
[36:21] next year. Certainly. All right. Is there anybody else that
[36:26] wishes to speak to council? Please just state your name.
[36:31] Let me just restart that name and city of residence
[36:34] for the record. Bruce Gibson, resident of Coquitlam, and I
[36:37] work quite a bit in Port Moody. I can address
[36:41] a couple of items in backwards order to end with
[36:43] the one that drew me. Down this evening, 11.6 on
[36:46] your agenda, outdoor viewing parties for FIFA. That's awesome. That's
[36:51] going to be so much fun. I hope that that
[36:52] passes. The three ubcm. Advocacy motions. I'm probably the greatest
[36:59] cynic of advocate motions at UBCM, but I read through
[37:02] each one of those, and my compliments to your authors.
[37:05] I can simply see how each one of those. Benefits
[37:08] people in the local community, and so thank you for
[37:11] bringing that forward. 7.3 the golden spike, folks, with the
[37:15] parking relaxation. During your discussion. If the conversation of. Are
[37:20] they seeking private sponsorship from private sector, I can assure
[37:24] you, Ms. Van Ass and the Wild Spike Society are
[37:27] seeking private sponsorship. Absolutely. They are seeking private sponsorship and
[37:32] the one that brought me down is 7.2. The very
[37:35] exciting conversation of property. Tax. Much to Mr. Rockwood's consternation.
[37:40] I probably know way too much about the property tax.
[37:43] I'm a delayed cocktail parties. The second bullet amendment to
[37:48] property tax regulations to allow variable property tax rates and
[37:52] allow progressive property taxation by tax, class value and use.
[37:56] I have to confess, I don't understand that. I know
[37:59] that we have different tax rates for different tax classes.
[38:01] I live it, breathe it way. Too much. I'd love
[38:05] to learn. I'm excited to learn something new about what
[38:08] that means. We'll make sure we ask that question. Thank
[38:12] you. Thank you. I'll make sure somebody asked that question,
[38:14] Mr. Rockwood. Be prepared. To answer that. All right. Anybody
[38:17] else wishes to speak? Thank you. Come on down. Yes.
[38:21] You know the drill. Two minutes. State your name and
[38:24] city residence. I'm just going. To restart the mic because
[38:26] I don't want it to turn off for you. Okay?
[38:28] All right. Go ahead. Okay. My name is Tracy Schaefer.
[38:31] I live in Port Moody. Wow. You guys packed the
[38:35] schedule today. And I want to talk about a bunch
[38:37] of things, so buckle your seatbelts, okay? Number one item
[38:43] 11.3. Support, please. Yes, we need more doctors. In fact.
[38:49] I don't know if you know this. We barely have
[38:51] a walk in clinic at all. In Port Moody. It's
[38:54] not a dedicated clinic. The doctor has patience, and sometimes
[38:59] it's. Not open at all, so, yes, anything we can
[39:01] do to bring doctors to this city, please. Thank you.
[39:06] Item 11.8. Yes, I agree that we should be making
[39:12] our city walkable. We should be bringing people out. Onto
[39:15] the streets. And yes, ground level businesses should be more
[39:20] hands on businesses for people to go. To. We want
[39:24] to bring people to our sidewalks, and we want to
[39:26] bring people spending money, so let's keep our doctors, keep
[39:29] our law. Lawyers, keep our cosmetic doctors in the second
[39:33] floor and let our people walk around and experience our
[39:37] stores. That would be awesome. And 11.7. I actually very
[39:42] much support this. I am always. For open and transparent
[39:47] government. And I do believe that everybody has a right
[39:51] to hear their government. Officials speak about their events. I
[39:56] would only ask that we be very careful in how
[39:58] these are communicated. I have participated in these kinds of
[40:01] events, and I have felt intimidated when my point of
[40:05] view wasn't exactly what the majority. Wanted to express. So
[40:10] I actually liked the way that the talk was done
[40:13] last time, and I'd like to sort of see a
[40:15] hybrid, and maybe if we can try to figure out
[40:18] a way to. Do it in a way that everybody
[40:20] feels safe. I think that would be excellent. Thank you
[40:23] very. Much. Thank you. All right. Please just state your
[40:29] name and city of residence. John Grassy poor moody. First
[40:35] of all, I'd like to congratulate city manager. And. Staff
[40:41] for bringing forward. The. I think it's the final stage
[40:44] of the Parkland strategy. I watched the meeting this afternoon
[40:49] and. It was good to see get that far. And
[40:53] congratulations to council for bringing it along. I'm still going
[40:58] to ask that we get focused on some of the
[41:03] small neighborhood parks. Especially in Moody center. And I want
[41:06] to speak more on that another time. I must say
[41:11] I'm a little perplexed on the open communication on the
[41:17] OCP. I think there's always been hope and communication. I
[41:22] think what's lacked quite often is an understanding of how
[41:25] the OCP works. That it is a living document. And
[41:30] it's flexible. It's a plan, after all. I remember asking
[41:35] probably ten years ago that we have some public service.
[41:40] Sessions for the public. On what it is about and
[41:44] how it fits into the regional context and how it's
[41:47] different from zone in anyway. I'll drop that one. And
[41:52] I really wanted to make mention of item 11.8, and
[41:56] I. For the past year, I've been walking almost daily
[42:00] through Moody Center. And one of the things which is
[42:05] very obvious is that. There's lots and lots and lots
[42:09] of services offered in Port Moody. Unfortunately, we don't. Offer
[42:13] the goods in the retail outlets and therefore. It's very
[42:17] uninteresting and it's why we do not get put traffic
[42:21] and why it's not a destination. So I think 11.8
[42:26] is a step towards addressing that type of issue. Thank
[42:28] you. Thank you. Good timing. Is there anybody else that
[42:34] wishes to speak to council at this time? A second
[42:38] time. Is there anybody else that wants to come down
[42:42] the first time? Come on down, Jackie. Jackie boy report
[42:47] Moody. I do want to speak strongly in support of
[42:50] 11.7. I think it's absolutely essential that we have such
[42:56] a meeting. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anybody else
[42:59] that wishes to speak to council at this time, I'll
[43:02] call a. Second time. Is there anybody that wishes to
[43:04] speak to council? Checking online. No one online. Third and
[43:07] final time. Thank you, everybody. That. Closes the verbal submissions.
[43:14] Madam Clerk. Are there any written submissions? Not for the
[43:17] regular agenda. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Which takes
[43:20] us to the next item, which is adoption of the
[43:22] minutes. So we have three sets. Of minutes. As a
[43:25] block. Moved for a seconder. Moved and seconded. All in
[43:29] favor? Post carried. Thank you. We'll move to the consent
[43:33] agenda. Okay, councilor hagged your app. I'd like to pull
[43:39] 7.2, please. Okay, that's a good choice. Otherwise, can somebody
[43:48] move? The rest. I think we usually move it and
[43:54] then we pull. Councilor Loreki has. I will pull 7.1
[44:00] the summary of 2025 public engagement for the OCP. Okay,
[44:07] so 7.1 and 7.2. So that leaves us with 7.3
[44:10] is. There a mover for that? Moved and seconded. All
[44:14] in favor? Opposed? Carried. So we'll go to item 7.1
[44:18] which is councilor Lurbecki. I'll go to you, councilor. Thank
[44:22] you so. This is the summary of the OCP engagement
[44:27] results that just happened, that recently happened in the last
[44:30] month. So I just have some comments. Not really any
[44:34] questions right now, but thank you very much to staff.
[44:36] I think it's a great summary report. And really captures,
[44:41] well, at least what I had heard from the things
[44:43] that I had listened to. Or attended. But I did
[44:47] want to provide some comments and context related to the
[44:50] attached engagement summary because I did notice that the max
[44:53] number of people attending. And that's attending sitting. In the
[44:59] chamber here, not necessarily providing input at these events. The
[45:02] Max number was 50 people. The online survey had about
[45:05] 350 people completed just this recent round. So I understand
[45:12] that this was just intended, I believe, to provide the
[45:14] 2025 results, not all. The previous results. I do hope
[45:18] that when council gets COCP officially that we have attached
[45:23] all of the engagement results because I think they're very
[45:26] important. I just wanted to provide a little bit of
[45:29] comparison. I went back. To the OCP household surveys that
[45:33] went out last counsel with the intention to inform the
[45:36] current draft that we have today. So survey two, in
[45:39] comparison, was 1802 individual survey responses with 1139 hard copy
[45:47] mail in responses survey three, that was a very specific
[45:50] land use. Survey that went out to every household had
[45:53] 1271 responses, 644 hard copy. For additional reference, just to
[46:00] put those into context. When I looked up the number
[46:02] of survey respondents that are used to draw conclusions, for
[46:06] example, about how Canadians feel like as a country we're
[46:09] I think we're about 35 million people or more now,
[46:11] maybe. Such as regarding the recent federal election. The number
[46:16] of respondents by looking down at the bottom there, about
[46:18] 1500. Right. And they made statements. Such as, quote, half
[46:23] of Canadians are blah, blah, blah. So I just want
[46:27] to draw attention to those surveys again. They are absolutely
[46:31] incredible response rates for a city of our side. Like,
[46:33] just a mind blowing response. Rate. And I want to
[46:37] let the community know that they still matter. They're still
[46:39] there. To date, just given those numbers and how in
[46:44] depth they were. I consider them the most important piece
[46:47] of feedback we have received and. When I'm reviewing the
[46:51] OCP. It is online for council. You can go and
[46:53] review. It now. I know we want to get it
[46:55] officially here. That's what I'm especially going to be looking
[46:59] for, and I think the community is going to be
[47:01] asking, where are those surveys? And. How are they reflected
[47:05] in the OCP? So I understand. That wasn't included here.
[47:08] I just wanted to ask, I guess mention or assume
[47:11] that we'll. Be getting a bundle of all the engagement
[47:14] results. And throw those numbers out there because. They're quite
[47:17] staggering when you really compare them. But, yeah. Thank you
[47:21] very much. It was a great report that was attached
[47:23] tonight. Are you going to move receipt. Okay, move. Receipt.
[47:27] Is there a second? Any other. Councilor Knowles. Thank you,
[47:32] mayor. Yeah, I'm glad this got pulled, because I've been
[47:36] ruminating on a lot of what we read and viewed.
[47:41] While I don't necessarily agree with my colleague, That the
[47:45] surveys from Afreas Council are relevant for reasons we've discussed
[47:48] at this table several times. And as relate to us
[47:53] by a survey expert. I would like to say that
[47:56] there were a few themes that arose from the comments
[48:00] that were made on this engagement, and I just wanted
[48:02] to address a few of those themes here. I did
[48:05] want to assure a lot of the comments you can
[48:08] tell. They're not regular council watchers, and I know that
[48:12] sounds like such a weird thing. To say? Because why
[48:14] would they be? But I think for those of us
[48:17] who do this day in and day out and are
[48:19] at all these meetings. It's difficult for us to read
[48:22] some comments to go. Oh, but we're already doing that.
[48:23] Oh, we're already doing this. So I just want to
[48:25] assure a lot of folks out there that we are
[48:28] working on bringing forward. Response, emergency response plans, traffic plans,
[48:35] master transportation plans. Things like that. We are doing a
[48:41] lot of this work already. And yeah, unless you were
[48:46] a regular council washer, you wouldn't know I wanted to.
[48:49] Address a couple of specific comments that I agree with
[48:52] and. We'll be raising with my council colleagues. And that
[48:56] is the need for additional washrooms. The fact that we
[49:00] could do better in terms of mentioning the economy, business.
[49:06] Commerce, tree canopy and reconciliation in our OCP accessibility for
[49:11] all people. That was a recurring theme. And I wanted
[49:15] to address this comment that it's not like we're trying
[49:17] to get rid of cars. We're not saying that cars
[49:19] don't exist. I understand as a mother of two myself,
[49:22] man. I do. I am a chauffeur. I am driving.
[49:24] My kids all over the tri cities for their events.
[49:26] I know we need cards. The idea of a transit
[49:31] oriented area. Around our two sky trains is that if
[49:35] you don't need to take a car, you won't have
[49:37] to anymore. If we can put these services and amenities
[49:41] and stores and commercial storefronts rate where people live, people
[49:44] are less likely to get in their cars. So it's
[49:47] not as if we're trying to eliminate cars. We're trying
[49:49] to eliminate the need for cars for future residents if.
[49:54] At all possible. I assure you, we're looking at taxes
[49:57] and stability and trying to find ways to reduce. The
[50:01] stressors to our residents. That is a big concern of
[50:04] mine. And lastly, I just wanted to kind of talk
[50:07] about the city of the arts because there were a
[50:09] lot of comments about this and a lot of people.
[50:12] Not seeing how the city of the arts is being
[50:15] reflected in the city. And that actually made me very
[50:18] sad, those comments, because. For me. Artists everywhere I look
[50:23] in this city, we have pomore arts. I do realize
[50:26] pomo. Arts isn't on our website, and that is something
[50:28] that I've brought up. In the past, but I can
[50:30] assure you, we have so many arts activities, events. We've
[50:35] got like 90 pieces of public art at this time.
[50:38] We've got a whole new arts and business council starting.
[50:41] We had a task force on arts and business last
[50:43] year. We are living that title, and if you have
[50:48] any questions. About how we are living, that and where
[50:53] you can find this art. Please reach out to us
[50:56] because we'd be glad to point you in the right
[50:58] direction. That's it for me. Thank you, councilor. All right,
[51:02] this has been moved and seconded. I will call the
[51:05] question. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Thank you very much.
[51:08] We move to 7.2. I think that was Councilor Agtra.
[51:13] Hopefully, you get the answers we're looking for. Well, I
[51:17] will ask the question, but I also have a small
[51:20] amendment and. I think what I understand bullet two to
[51:24] be asking or talking about is the land value tax.
[51:27] Or the way of. But I will turn it over
[51:30] to staff to actually answer the question because they. Wrote
[51:35] this excellent resolution. What I'm happy to support with a
[51:38] small amendment. So do you want to make your amendment.
[51:41] Yeah. The only thing I would say is the end,
[51:43] that we send a copy of this resolution to all
[51:46] UBCM municipalities. Okay, very simple. That's been seconded, okay? So
[51:53] it's been moved and seconded with that and that. And
[51:58] if staff could please answer the residents question from the
[52:02] previous. For sure. And Chen, social Planner. I'm the author
[52:06] of this report, so from what I understood from the
[52:08] question from the residents. It's about the point number two,
[52:11] about the progressive. Property taxation and what it means. So
[52:15] from my understanding about the property taxes coming through, looking
[52:19] at PC assessment. DC assessment does not do taxation, but
[52:22] it's the cities that will. Do it. But DC assessment
[52:26] assesses properties based on class value and use. But at
[52:30] this time. There's no explicit subcategory for different types of
[52:34] uses and classes, which may be beneficial if we're looking
[52:37] at creating subcategories, categories for market rental and affordable housing.
[52:41] So in that case, we are looking at available tax,
[52:45] proper taxation based on different classes. And uses and value.
[52:49] Okay, so including. The use. May I ask a follow
[52:54] up? Yeah, go ahead. So then, for what I am
[52:56] understanding, you saying. So right now we have residential, we
[53:00] have commercial classes, but we have no ability to split
[53:02] residential. Into different classes that would be, say, residential, but
[53:08] then there would be, like, nonprofit residential, and that's. Kind
[53:10] of what you're asking. Okay, thank you. I think Mr.
[53:14] Rockwood also wanted to jim hin on this. Yeah. Thank
[53:18] you, madam. So there's two approaches that are discussed in
[53:21] the report. The first one. Is councilor egg drop just
[53:25] mentioned is the split assessment. So class one would be
[53:28] split into. Two classes, essentially, so there'd be. Market value
[53:35] homes, and then there'd be an affordable map of rental.
[53:40] Home classification, so. This was tried a few years ago
[53:43] on the business class where they were trying to do
[53:45] a split assessment, because what happens is BC assessment. Assesses
[53:50] on the highest and best use. Which could be commercial,
[53:53] that grade, but then residential above it, but the whole
[53:56] property gets assessed. At class six. So the approach here
[54:01] is to split the assessment. The second methodology is the
[54:05] land. Value taxation. So what happens on a vacant piece
[54:09] of land? It's assessed at a certain value, but. As
[54:11] you build on it, you added a building on it,
[54:14] it increases in value. And then, obviously the taxes go
[54:18] up under the Lvt the land value taxation, it would
[54:21] remain at the value of the land. So there would
[54:24] be an incentive to build affordable housing because it wouldn't
[54:28] change the tax. So those are the two approaches being
[54:31] discussed. Does that answer your question? Okay. Thank you, Mr.
[54:36] Rockwood. All right. Has this been moved? Councilor. Yes. All
[54:44] right, then. Councilor lubic. Honestly, I just wanted to say
[54:49] that I was so happy. When I read this report.
[54:53] It's brilliant. And I love that our social planners are
[54:57] so forward thinking and trying to do this and also
[55:00] that our finance committee is like, how can we do.
[55:04] Finance. Lovely folks are like, how can we do affordable
[55:06] housing? Staff are amazing. Thank you so much for this.
[55:11] They are amazing. And the question was, when does this
[55:15] ever happen? When does a staff person bring forward a
[55:16] UVCM advocacy motion? But I'll tell you what it reminded
[55:20] me of not too long ago, when we had. I
[55:24] think it was Laura Sampler, who brought forward a UBCM
[55:28] adv. Advocacy motion around zero emissions, which then ultimately became
[55:33] a provincial legislative requirement through the new building code. So
[55:39] thank you for this. Thank you very much. I don't
[55:42] see any other comments, so I'll call the question. All
[55:43] in favor? Opposed. Carried. Thank you. So we'll need to
[55:47] get. Good speaking notes from when we go to speak
[55:52] to our mlas on this. Okay, so that takes us.
[55:59] To new business. So we are at 11.1. That is
[56:07] the ecom agm voting delegate appointment. Who are you? Can
[56:14] make that recommendation. I will make it, okay. All right.
[56:27] Any been moved and seconded? Any comments or questions? Should
[56:30] we have an alternate? How about, do we have to
[56:32] appoint an alternate? Or can we say, it's the acting
[56:34] we have in the past. Okay. All right. Myself and
[56:40] the acting mayor as the alternate. We will call the
[56:44] question then. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Thanks, everyone. Now
[56:47] we're going. To go to 11.2, which is housing as
[56:49] a human right, and I will hand the table over
[56:53] to councilor Lubeck. Thank you so much, and I look
[56:58] forward to hearing councilor. Dillard's remarks as well. I was
[57:01] glad to work on this together. So the motion is
[57:05] whereas recognizing housing as a human right fundamentally shifts government
[57:08] motivations by adding critical urgency and responsibility to ensure access
[57:12] to affordable housing through policies that prevent homelessness. Address the
[57:16] escalating housing costs and homelessness crisis, eliminate discrimination and prioritize
[57:21] the needs of vulnerable and marginalized, pop. Populations. And whereas
[57:25] the government of CANADA affirmed the right to housing as
[57:27] a matter of international law, in, enshrined and domestically. In
[57:32] domestic law through the National Housing Strategy act, recognizing it
[57:36] as a human right and establishing mechanisms for accountability and
[57:40] inclusion. Therefore, be it resolved that UBCM call and the
[57:43] BC government to enshrine housing as a human right in
[57:45] legislation and forthcoming housing and homelessness strategies to ensure that
[57:49] housing policy in British Columbia is grounded in the princi.
[57:52] Principles of equity, accessibility, accountability. And inherent dignity to all
[57:57] people. So you've made that motion. Is there a second
[57:59] or. Seconded. Seconded. Would you like to speak to it,
[58:02] councilor Lubic? Thank you very. Much. We are joining a
[58:07] number of municipalities across the province. In this advocacy. As
[58:13] well as the poverty reduction coalition. We know the housing
[58:18] is more than just four walls and a roof. It's
[58:20] a place to live in security, peace and dignity. And
[58:25] essential the physical and mental health, community and sustainability. And
[58:29] having an affordable. Suitable and safe place to live. Helps
[58:33] people and their families succeed and thrive. Everyone should have
[58:37] access to housing that meets their needs without discrimination or
[58:40] harassment. Using humans rights based approach to housing reinforces the
[58:46] expectation that legislation, policies, and programs affecting housing will emphasize
[58:49] participation, empowerment, accountability, and nondiscrimination while fulfilling the human right
[58:54] to adequate housing human rightsbased approach focuses on groups with
[58:58] the greatest need, including people who. With lived experience. Of
[59:04] housing need and homelessness. Now, how things a human right
[59:07] doesn't mean that governments must provide housing. Although I think
[59:12] it should. Instead, it means governments must ensure that housing
[59:17] systems enable everyone to live somewhere in security and peace.
[59:22] So Canada is in the middle, midst of an ongoing
[59:26] housing crisis from skyrocketing rents to expanding encampments and the
[59:30] failure to provide adequate and affordable housing. Has become one
[59:37] of the most pressing human rights issues. So while the
[59:40] federal government hasn't spined this as in the whereas as
[59:43] clauses, it's not in the provincial legislation, and it's critical
[59:47] that it be so we can actually move forward on
[59:49] these things. And we have seen that Manitoba's move to
[59:55] enshrine housing first policies and housing as a human, right?
[1:00:00] Has really, actually made progress. In clarity, in red tape
[1:00:03] removal, and in ensuring that all policies meet this need.
[1:00:09] Thank you. Thank you. Councilor. Councilor Dilworth. Thank you. I
[1:00:14] want to say this is. A long time coming. It's
[1:00:17] been well over ten years since I heard that word
[1:00:20] housing. As a human right. And it was when I
[1:00:23] worked with a coalition of nonprofit and co op housing
[1:00:27] providers. And we're finally seeing some action, and I don't
[1:00:31] know if it's. Because we've had an affordability crisis, because
[1:00:35] we've had a cost of home. Delivery crisis. But what
[1:00:38] I do see happening is that local governments are taking
[1:00:42] action and the federal government has identified some action, and
[1:00:45] we really need to prompt our province to come. As
[1:00:49] board as well. When I look at the successes that
[1:00:52] we've seen in addressing these two separate crises. What I've
[1:00:55] seen is a partnership of all levels of government and
[1:00:58] quite often community organizations and associations that participate. As well.
[1:01:05] And I also want to reiterate councilor Lubig's point. This
[1:01:10] is not an isolated conversation that we're having. It's one
[1:01:13] that is taking place with those non market housing providers,
[1:01:16] with co ops, with our peers across city halls across
[1:01:20] the province, and there's no doubt in my mind we're
[1:01:23] going to see a number of very similar motions come
[1:01:26] forward at UBCM and I think that just speaks to
[1:01:29] a louder collection of voices agreeing that this is the
[1:01:32] right thing. To do. And it might be one of
[1:01:34] those pieces that actually helps us garner traction on additional
[1:01:39] initiatives actions. And even funding to help address the housing
[1:01:44] crisis that we're facing. So. I'm looking forward to support
[1:01:47] from all of our colleagues here and taking it and
[1:01:51] beating our drums at UBCM. Looking forward to that. Thank
[1:01:56] you, councilor. We've got Councilor Eggtrap. Thank you. And thank
[1:02:01] you to my colleagues for. Bringing this forward. I absolutely
[1:02:03] believe that this is the direction that we need to
[1:02:05] be going. When you think of people. Without safe and
[1:02:11] secure housing. It's really better as a society as a
[1:02:15] whole, and I think it's a mark of society on.
[1:02:18] How we help the most vulnerable people amongst us. And
[1:02:21] I do believe that homelessness can be eliminated through the
[1:02:25] coordination of all levels of government, sort of rowing the
[1:02:28] boat in the same direction. And supporting each other. Not
[1:02:32] only through funding, but through aligned policy. So I'm hoping
[1:02:36] that with I know this, a similar motion is that
[1:02:39] other councils. I think a couple of already passed something
[1:02:43] like this, and I hope that collectively I think there's
[1:02:47] about ten local governments. That are discussing this that I
[1:02:51] hope that collectively. This gets the attention of the province,
[1:02:56] and then. The attention of the federal government so that
[1:02:59] we can continue to work on this together in a
[1:03:02] manner that suits each of our individual communities needs. So
[1:03:07] looking forward to the continued advocacy at UBCM thank you,
[1:03:11] councilor. Councilor Lebecki. Thank you. I greatly appreciate this. I
[1:03:17] agree with everything it says. Absolutely. Housing needs to be
[1:03:19] human, right? I will share that. Why I appreciate us
[1:03:24] going and advocating on this. Sometimes. Maybe these advocacy motions.
[1:03:29] The first thing that pops into my mind is, yes,
[1:03:32] we can ask. The province. But we control so much,
[1:03:35] we can make sure we have an affordable housing bylaw.
[1:03:38] And then we can enforce it. We can make sure
[1:03:40] we don't make planning decisions that cause land speculation or.
[1:03:45] Increases land value. That are unnecessary. We can make sure
[1:03:49] that we only approve housing developments that truly meet our
[1:03:52] housing needs and not ones, for example, that have zero
[1:03:54] affordable housing. So I appreciate this. I just want to
[1:03:59] remind our council, all councils. So much still lies with
[1:04:02] us. So much responsibility. Is right here at this table,
[1:04:05] and we have a lot of control still. So, yes,
[1:04:08] let's. Advocate to the province, but let's make sure that
[1:04:10] we're doing these things. And treating housing like a human
[1:04:13] right at this table. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. I
[1:04:17] don't see any other hand, so I'm going to call
[1:04:20] the question all in favor? Opposed? Carried. Thank you. Which
[1:04:23] takes us to 11.3. What do you want to do?
[1:04:30] Coin toss. You can start us off. Councilor lubic. This
[1:04:35] is a joint advocacy motion from the councillor. And myself.
[1:04:40] Thank you so much. So I'll skip the whereas this
[1:04:42] time. But therefore be it result that the province work
[1:04:47] with local governments. The province provincial and local divisions. Of
[1:04:51] family practice and developers to encourage or require considerations of
[1:04:56] community health clinic spaces in new development including, but not
[1:05:00] limited to providing provincial health infrastructure funding and subsid. Subsidies,
[1:05:05] provincially leased spaces, and connections between physicians and healthcare workers
[1:05:09] to understand and address community needs. Within new spaces and
[1:05:13] that the province explicitly include funding for community health spaces
[1:05:17] in eligible amenity cost charge benefits. Thank you. So I'll
[1:05:24] speak a little, and then I'll come back to you,
[1:05:26] councilor. First of all, I want to thank councilor Lubic.
[1:05:33] For bringing this to my attention and for asking me.
[1:05:37] To co sponsor this. I think that what we're talking
[1:05:41] about really is a space bottleneck, and I know that
[1:05:44] the province has been doing a lot of work. Around
[1:05:47] the longitudinal family physician payment model, fee enhancements, team based
[1:05:54] funding. These have really helped to improve the issues that
[1:05:59] we have because. It's multifaceted, but. This is really sort
[1:06:05] of to address that, what has been described as the
[1:06:08] space bottleneck. And we have over 700,000 British Columbians who
[1:06:13] lack a family physician and part of the problem is
[1:06:16] that there is no place for these doctors to open
[1:06:19] up a practice. It's. Too expensive. There's. A number of
[1:06:24] myriad of. Different reasons why. But. I think that it
[1:06:29] starts here advocating for that, and also it puts it
[1:06:32] on the radar for us to consider when we are
[1:06:34] talking to developers that come forward. And. The motion that's
[1:06:39] following, I believe is around. There's a motion coming up
[1:06:44] around that councilor Agtrap has brought forward. Around. Businesses and
[1:06:52] placing those types of businesses on the second floor, and
[1:06:54] those conversations continue to take place. But it really kind
[1:06:57] of elevates it to a point where it's like, We're
[1:07:03] taking a stand publicly. So, councilor lubic. I'll give you
[1:07:08] an opportunity to speak to it as well. Thank you
[1:07:10] so much. Van and mayor so a few months ago,
[1:07:14] I had the opportunity to be at quality forum on
[1:07:17] a panel. With someone that was talking about how do
[1:07:21] cities. And health providers work together, and it was really
[1:07:26] interesting. I was also surprised that the room was full.
[1:07:30] But it was great to see how much engagement there
[1:07:33] was and how much interest there was in working together
[1:07:35] and people actually being like, I think this would help.
[1:07:37] I think that would help. And so myself and the
[1:07:41] mayor had the opportunity to meet with some folks from
[1:07:43] the BC divisions. Of family practice, and it's been really
[1:07:46] helpful to help us just start understanding each other's. Needs,
[1:07:50] how we can work together, what we could do. And
[1:07:53] we're facing the same challenges from different angles. So we
[1:07:56] are living in a world with complex problems where we
[1:07:59] don't have simple solutions. But we can start somewhere and
[1:08:02] we can understand where some of the bottlenecks are. As
[1:08:05] the mayor said, we are facing a primary care crisis.
[1:08:10] The provincial population is growing at 1.7% a year and
[1:08:14] without a regular family. Doctor patients turn to walk in
[1:08:18] clinics, which we don't always have. Emergency departments or virtual
[1:08:23] providers, and none of that is. Continuous on the continuum
[1:08:26] of care, and so it doesn't provide preventative care, it
[1:08:29] doesn't provide chronic disease management, and this can lead to
[1:08:33] delayed diagnosis and unmanaged conditions. At the same time, municipalities
[1:08:38] are facing infrastructure challenges, and we've had this conversation around
[1:08:41] the table a lot as we are growing. We hear
[1:08:45] from our residents. That we have a lack of health
[1:08:48] infrastructure, and so how can we face those challenges together?
[1:08:54] And we know that through our provincial mandates, we're going
[1:08:57] to be having more density and we are going to
[1:08:59] be having more density anyway, so it's important to be
[1:09:02] looking for. Those ways that we can work together to
[1:09:06] find those spaces and. We do have been working. We
[1:09:09] have been directing our economic development staff to look for
[1:09:14] to work. With some of the developers. On. Trying to
[1:09:19] find health anchor tenants. But this is another but. Again.
[1:09:25] It's that funding piece and the space piece that we
[1:09:27] keep coming up against when we talk to the doctors.
[1:09:29] It's just very expensive to find spaces. And the final
[1:09:33] part of this motion. Is, as we have these new
[1:09:39] mechanisms, the acc. They're supposed to be used to help
[1:09:43] fund a variety of community amenities in response to population
[1:09:46] growth and development, such as community centers, recreation facilities, libraries,
[1:09:51] and a big grab bag of things. That says support
[1:09:54] livable and complete communities. In areas of growth. But it
[1:09:58] doesn't specifically talk about health spaces. And so that would
[1:10:02] be a really important tool to have as well. Thank
[1:10:04] you, councilor. I don't see any of their hands up,
[1:10:08] so. This has been moved and seconded. I'll call the
[1:10:11] question. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Thank you. Which brings
[1:10:14] us to item 11.4, request for provincial reform on school
[1:10:18] planning. I think this is you, Councilor Morrison. Thank you,
[1:10:22] mayor. I'm going to read the whole thing just because
[1:10:23] it's a short one, if that's all right, that the
[1:10:25] following resolution be submitted to 2025 UPCm. I'll skip to
[1:10:30] the next part. Whereas the province has mandated significant increases
[1:10:33] in housing, provisions as of 2024 to address the housing
[1:10:37] availability and affordability crisis requiring growth in areas beyond. Municipality's
[1:10:42] original density plans. And whereas schools across British Columbia are
[1:10:46] at capacity with enrollment based planning, failing to account for
[1:10:49] future growth, resulting in delayed school infrastructure despite municipalities being
[1:10:54] required to complete housing units under the Housing Supply act
[1:10:58] without corresponding adjustments to school planning timelines. Therefore, be it
[1:11:02] resolved that the BC government amend their school planning and
[1:11:05] funding policies so that schools are built and ready for
[1:11:08] occupancy based on projected population numbers and or legislated. Growth
[1:11:13] targets ensuring timely school infrastructure development in municipalities affected by
[1:11:18] rapid housing growth, including but not limited. To communities with
[1:11:23] transit oriented areas and Housing Supply act requirements and that
[1:11:27] staff be directed to forward a copy of this resolution
[1:11:30] to the provincial ministers involved in education and municipal affairs.
[1:11:34] I'd like to move that if possible there. Seconder. Thank
[1:11:38] you, council. So. Yes, I would. Very much so. Thank
[1:11:41] you. This is not the first time I've brought up
[1:11:45] the challenges that we have with the fact that port
[1:11:47] moody, amongst many, many other communities across the province, not
[1:11:51] just once the sky train stations, but even ones with
[1:11:53] small transit hubs are facing in regards to density. And
[1:11:58] I certainly hope that this is not the only version
[1:12:01] of this motion being put forward by our fellow cities.
[1:12:04] Across the province to the upcoming UBCM convention in Victoria
[1:12:07] because it does affect so many I believe this motion
[1:12:10] speaks clearly and highlights the extreme challenges that residents of
[1:12:13] our community. And communities like ours are going to have
[1:12:17] as part of the unexpected and forced densification. That the
[1:12:20] provincial government has pushed on cities with transit hubs. This
[1:12:24] motion is written to highlight just one of the challenges
[1:12:27] that cities like ours, with two sky train stations and
[1:12:29] minimum densities mandated by the province, by the provincial government
[1:12:33] around these stations. The province ruled bills 44 and 47
[1:12:38] out. With really no consultation with local municipalities to hear
[1:12:42] what issues would be experienced by making. These density areas.
[1:12:48] And making sure that they're able to provide what they
[1:12:50] need to provide. And that would be, of course, inclusive
[1:12:52] of things like schools, hospitals, extend housing as needed for
[1:12:58] supportive housing. So for the cities, we have to do
[1:13:02] things like. Park spaces, an appropriate amount of park spaces,
[1:13:05] which we just talked about earlier this evening. Roads, recreation
[1:13:10] centers are going to be needed, fields, arenas, et cetera.
[1:13:15] And unfortunately, there is no provision or change that I've
[1:13:17] heard of from the province in how they're going to
[1:13:19] plan to provide these school spaces based on the timelines
[1:13:23] that they've put, especially for cities like ours that are
[1:13:26] part of the Housing Supply act, where we have a
[1:13:28] certain amount of population we need to accommodate by a
[1:13:30] certain date, and they do. Not have a plan in
[1:13:33] place to be able to make sure that school. Schools
[1:13:35] are provided to meet that target on the date in
[1:13:37] which those targets are due. So I'm hoping that they
[1:13:40] will change their planning process. This is not out of
[1:13:42] the in ordinary. This is how things have been done
[1:13:44] for the longest. Time. They wait until there's a need
[1:13:46] and they're at capacity, then they build. A school at
[1:13:48] that point if they're going to force and mandate housing
[1:13:51] numbers upon our cities. They need to make sure they're
[1:13:53] providing all the provisions, health care as well as schools
[1:13:57] by the time those are due. That's my report on
[1:13:59] that. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor. We'll go to Councilor
[1:14:03] Knowles. Thank you. Just wanted to thank my colleague for
[1:14:06] bringing this forward. He mentioned at one point that. This
[1:14:11] is not the first time he's brought this forward. It's
[1:14:13] certainly not the first time this council has even brought
[1:14:15] this forward. I think we've brought it forward at every
[1:14:17] UBCM. We've met twice with education ministers. Two different education
[1:14:20] ministers about this. We are meeting regularly with our local,
[1:14:25] our district school board. I can tell you they are
[1:14:27] just as frustrated as we are, and we are in
[1:14:29] this together. And we are working, trying to work the
[1:14:33] problem. But we need provincial. Support here. I struggle a
[1:14:37] bit. With. How the province allocates. Allocates funding. I mean,
[1:14:46] I'm sure anyone who's been paying attention to the news
[1:14:49] knows that the NDP is currently defending itself about new
[1:14:53] reports and the dramatic increase in public sector employees and
[1:14:55] the cost of payroll right now. And it's really hard.
[1:15:01] When communities like ours are struggling to provide affordable housing,
[1:15:03] we're struggling to provide sufficient doctors in health care and
[1:15:06] schools. So I appreciate the fact that councilor Morrison. Has
[1:15:13] kind of further targeted this ask by mentioning the specific
[1:15:17] transit oriented areas in housing supply act. Requirements. And if
[1:15:21] we have to keep beating this drum every year, then
[1:15:23] so be it, because. We're students, and our kids deserve
[1:15:28] the best. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Councilor eichra. Thank
[1:15:36] you. I appreciate the tenacity in bringing this forward. I'm
[1:15:41] right there with you on another matter. But we'll get
[1:15:45] there. But. I think the answer that we had in
[1:15:50] the past is like, this is, or at least from
[1:15:51] the school board because. Their hands are tied in a
[1:15:56] sense of like, well, it's always being done this way.
[1:15:58] Is no longer good enough and. There's a lot of
[1:16:02] technology has changed. There's a lot of ways, I think,
[1:16:04] that. We in the school board? And the Ministry of
[1:16:08] Education can be more proactive. In planning. For that need.
[1:16:15] And I understand the concern that there has been in
[1:16:18] the past of building things. And then the associated influx
[1:16:24] of residents. Haven't materialized. And so my understanding is there
[1:16:28] hesitation around building things. But I do think that there
[1:16:32] is opportunity. To move forward in such a way that.
[1:16:41] We're not behind the eight ball always and that we're
[1:16:43] not always having schools. Open or even schools under construction,
[1:16:48] knowing that there will be full capacity the day they
[1:16:50] open. So I appreciate councilor Morrison, bringing this forward and.
[1:16:56] I hope. And I was just thinking about this. For
[1:16:57] all our UBCM resolutions, it's. Too late to make the
[1:17:02] amendment for some of them, but. Can we package them
[1:17:04] up and share them with other municipalities? Because I don't
[1:17:08] think that we're not alone in this. We're not alone
[1:17:11] in any of the UBCM. Resolutions. There's all of the
[1:17:14] communities in BC are facing the same, if not similar
[1:17:19] or similar, if not the same, challenges. And I think
[1:17:23] there is. Power in collectively going forward and having joint
[1:17:28] sponsors of motion. So if there's an opportunity to do
[1:17:32] joint advocacy. I think we should take it. Thank you.
[1:17:36] I guess what we'll do is we'll find out when
[1:17:38] we get to LMLGA. Or. Not lmlj. They've already had
[1:17:45] it. When we get to ubcm. What other municipalities have
[1:17:50] submitted. Similar advocacy because. There's always a number of them,
[1:17:55] so we can also join forces there. Okay.
[1:18:07] Yeah. I don't know if we have time for that
[1:18:11] to do a joint sponsored resolution, but. We'll give it
[1:18:14] a shot. All right? Yeah. LMLJ is coming on. Okay,
[1:18:19] so there aren't any other questions? Or any other hands
[1:18:22] up. So I'll call the question. All in favor? Opposed?
[1:18:24] Carried. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Morrison, for that. Which
[1:18:30] brings us to the next item, which is my motion.
[1:18:34] I'm going to move that the city establish a pilot
[1:18:37] program for a local transit service. To run a shuttle
[1:18:40] bus to connect the inlet center and parts of Moody
[1:18:43] center to Rocky Point. Park on Fridays, Saturday and Sunday
[1:18:46] afternoons evenings, with additional services for potential FIFA games that
[1:18:50] are identified and that this service run from June 1,
[1:18:54] 2020. Six to August 31, 2026. Did I? This is
[1:19:03] 11.5. That's what I'm on. And. That.
[1:19:14] Status. Okay, staff, report back by September 2025. With a
[1:19:19] project plan and cost estimates for establishing this pilot shoreline
[1:19:22] shuttle service and that this service be paid for from
[1:19:25] a portion of the pay parking revenues and that staff
[1:19:28] report back in October. 2026 with a report outlining this
[1:19:32] service, including ridership. So this is after the fact. To
[1:19:35] determine if this pilot project is to be made permanent.
[1:19:39] Okay. Thank you. So I'm going to just provide a
[1:19:44] little bit of background. And. Some of the conversations that
[1:19:49] I've been having. My conversations with staff. On the understanding
[1:19:56] that these types of things take time to get up
[1:19:59] and running. So if there was a possibility to get
[1:20:02] it going earlier. I'm sure if this was approved by
[1:20:05] council. For next year. I'm sure council would be open
[1:20:08] to that, but at this point, wanting to give staff
[1:20:11] enough time to get their project plan together. In my
[1:20:15] conversations with staff, there are a lot of things that
[1:20:18] have already been done. We already have signage. We've already
[1:20:21] got, so a lot of the main costs have already.
[1:20:24] Been covered in the previous project. There may be some
[1:20:27] tweaking done to do here and there, but. They basically
[1:20:32] have got the sort of, I guess, template for a
[1:20:34] plan. So I think that it's reasonable. And stuff, in
[1:20:37] my conversations with them, thought it was reasonable. To take
[1:20:43] this approach. And if there are any other questions. Around
[1:20:47] this item. I'd be happy to answer them, but I
[1:20:52] will go to. I've got lots. Of people. Councilor Dillworth,
[1:20:56] thank you. And thank you for bringing this forward. Merlotti.
[1:20:59] I've been waiting for this to come back to the
[1:21:01] table. We did a one year project a number of
[1:21:05] years ago, and I've had some successes. And it had
[1:21:08] some challenges, and I think as a community now, We're
[1:21:13] much more better established to bring back a shuttle. I've
[1:21:16] been talking to people as recently as. The town hall
[1:21:20] meeting that we had on parks. I was talking with
[1:21:22] a younger couple that said, I remember that. Is that
[1:21:24] going to come back soon? So I'm excited to see
[1:21:27] this. If my recollection is correct. The last time that
[1:21:31] we undertook this, there was up to 1000 people on
[1:21:35] a weekend utilizing that. Shuttle. I mean, that's not insignificant
[1:21:40] when you think of how many cars those people would.
[1:21:42] Be taking up. I also want to ask, in your
[1:21:46] conversations with staff, Excuse me. Part of the success of
[1:21:50] our previous shuttle service was that of private sponsorship, and
[1:21:55] there was a significant chunk of money that was donated
[1:21:59] to the city to provide for things like vehicular maintenance
[1:22:03] fuel paying a driver. I'm wondering if you can tell
[1:22:07] us, mayor, if you've had discussions with staff. Or if
[1:22:10] the concept of private sponsorship has been raised as well.
[1:22:14] Yes, and of course. If those opportunities present themselves and.
[1:22:22] If I have the opportunity to actually secure some of
[1:22:24] that. We can use those things as well. My feeling.
[1:22:30] Going forward was we need to at least have a
[1:22:33] source of payment in case those funds don't come through.
[1:22:37] Okay, what we're hearing right now around sponsorship for events
[1:22:41] and for different things in the city. Is that that
[1:22:43] money? Is not as forthcoming as it was five or
[1:22:47] six years ago. Understandable. I think it's important that. We
[1:22:53] have the ability to pay for this service. And. It's
[1:22:58] not a lot of money. It's about $8,000. Once, and
[1:23:02] the original one was about. 40 and 50,000, but. A
[1:23:08] lot of that money has already been spent, and that
[1:23:10] was on signage and things like that. So we wouldn't
[1:23:12] be expending that much. That much in terms of. 50,000.
[1:23:18] There will likely be a portion of that that would
[1:23:20] have to be reinvested, but. We're talking less than 10,000.
[1:23:24] That's great. Thank you. Councilor Agtrap. Thank you. Some of
[1:23:31] my questions have been answered. Like partnerships, one, and then
[1:23:35] just about the success of the shuttle in the past
[1:23:37] and. It sounds like we have information on that. I'm
[1:23:42] just curious. Can that be shared with us? And sort
[1:23:46] of what were the past challenges? That shuttle experience that
[1:23:50] you alluded to. Great. Sorry. What was the challenge? It
[1:23:55] sounds like it was pretty successful, but there were still
[1:23:57] challenges. I think that only having a very short period
[1:24:02] of time. The challenge, I think, was. Getting. The increase
[1:24:07] in ridership that we were hoping for. The awareness of
[1:24:10] it. Yeah, the awareness of it. So I think that,
[1:24:13] but in retrospect, when sort of getting the comments back
[1:24:18] from the community around. When are you going to bring
[1:24:20] that back? And during the election, there was a lot
[1:24:23] of discussion. Like, at the doorstep about this. I really
[1:24:26] want that. I think that the awareness is there, and
[1:24:30] I think that people, I think that hopefully will have
[1:24:32] a good uptake on this. This doesn't in any way
[1:24:35] preclude encouraging other modes of transportation, of course, like getting
[1:24:39] people to take sky trains, for instance. That's there. Already,
[1:24:43] right? And just remind me, the loop was, like, from
[1:24:48] here, like, from city hall area to Rocky Point. And
[1:24:52] then did it go to Moody center sky train as
[1:24:54] well? It looped through Moody center, so, yeah, I mean,
[1:24:58] staff will come back with a plan on what the
[1:25:00] route might look like. It'll probably be different than the
[1:25:03] original one because the original one, I think went up
[1:25:05] to pleasant side, so I think it's going to be
[1:25:07] a little shorter of a route where people will have
[1:25:09] to find their way here. And then make their way
[1:25:13] down there. So it's going to be basically or potentially
[1:25:15] a loop. From this area down. Through to Rocky Point
[1:25:21] and then up through Moody center and back. Okay, great.
[1:25:23] I look forward to seeing whatever the next steps are.
[1:25:26] Thank you. So we would get something back from staff
[1:25:28] in September. On that. Councilor Lebecki. Thank you. So I
[1:25:36] definitely appreciate the intention here, but I do want to
[1:25:39] talk a little bit more about what I could see
[1:25:41] as some of the challenges, the past challenges, and what
[1:25:43] we could be facing. So back in 2018, as Amir
[1:25:46] indicated, the cost was $50,000. And I think it actually
[1:25:50] had run for three months. At the time. And with
[1:25:55] that ridership, that worked out to $13.50 a ride. And
[1:25:59] when I look up Uber. It's $11 to go to
[1:26:01] the park, so I think that's. Important I'm hearing, which
[1:26:03] makes me feel quite a bit better. A claim of
[1:26:06] $10,000. If that is in fact the case, I would
[1:26:11] bring that cost down. But in 2018, my understanding is
[1:26:15] it wasn't, though ended just because of lack of funding.
[1:26:18] I believe when I went back and looked into that,
[1:26:20] and that conversation was actually ended, though, because it was
[1:26:22] not considered a good value for the money at the
[1:26:26] time. Except for just hoping. I haven't seen any information
[1:26:31] provided to me or to the community. In the memo
[1:26:34] that would make me think I just don't have the
[1:26:37] information to know. That it just wouldn't be the same.
[1:26:42] I'm trying to hope it would be a higher usership,
[1:26:45] but if it costs that. Much, then there's been major
[1:26:48] inflationary costs since 2018, so we really need to get
[1:26:52] down to how much is this going to cost per
[1:26:55] ride? I also think. The distance from Inlet center to
[1:27:00] Rocky Point park is flat, is walkable, it's bikable there's
[1:27:05] two transit forms that you can take, bus and sky
[1:27:07] trade, and I do wonder if people are not doing
[1:27:09] those options right now. Then why is that? And who
[1:27:14] then is going to be motivated to use this free
[1:27:16] shuttle? I honestly believe what is more likely to occur
[1:27:20] is the shuttle will really be a transit subsidy paid
[1:27:23] for by our residents. Through this pay parking instead of
[1:27:28] serving to reduce car trips. Because if you don't have
[1:27:32] to drive right now from the rec center to the
[1:27:35] park. I don't think you're probably doing that. And if
[1:27:38] you do have to drive, I don't think this shuttle
[1:27:40] is necessarily going to fix that for you, like mobility
[1:27:44] issues or lagging tons of gear, because. I would assume
[1:27:47] you could consider the bus already. That does leave just
[1:27:50] out on Ioco there. Parking at the rec center is
[1:27:54] also a huge consideration, especially on the weekends. Another problem
[1:27:59] is a big problem for me with this, honestly, is
[1:28:02] the use of paid parking fees. For a project like
[1:28:04] this without a broader conversation having occurred on the strategic
[1:28:08] use of these funds. I don't think councils received the
[1:28:10] information received in this report. On those available funds until
[1:28:14] today, so I was a bit surprised to see that
[1:28:17] preemptively in this report before we talk about it. And
[1:28:21] we really need to talk about those use of those
[1:28:23] funds. What about park improvements and park expansion. For example,
[1:28:27] if you go to Rocky Point park on a rainy
[1:28:29] day right now, you're. Going to go through a puddle
[1:28:31] on the sidewalks. Is that a bigger priority maybe, than
[1:28:35] the shuttle? I don't know, but I think we need
[1:28:37] to have those conversations before we make decisions. I know
[1:28:41] this is a feel good initiative, and I know people
[1:28:44] in the community like, oh, those start to show up
[1:28:46] before elections. And look, things like this can sound great.
[1:28:49] They can look great. And maybe some of them are
[1:28:51] actually great, but I do think we need to dig
[1:28:53] deeper and. Make sure we are making long term good
[1:28:55] choices for our community. That makes sense. Parking revenue is
[1:28:59] not free money. It's hard earned money from our residents
[1:29:02] that they now have to spend to visit a public
[1:29:04] park. I didn't support that because I didn't. Think it
[1:29:06] was fair. There's been recognition that not everyone can afford
[1:29:10] pay parking in kind of this conversation, but. Then I'm
[1:29:13] wondering. So we're using the money to make a shuttle
[1:29:15] that maybe. We don't need. And the people will pay.
[1:29:17] That can't take the shuttle anyway. Maybe we should just
[1:29:20] remove the pay parking for our residents. That's where I
[1:29:23] kind of land back with this thinking. So I would
[1:29:28] like to see a report back from staff in this
[1:29:30] motion, because to be comfortable I mean, if it really
[1:29:34] is $10,000, and that obviously is a big difference for
[1:29:36] me than $50,000. So I am going to call for
[1:29:40] separation, though, because I'm not prepared to endorse kind of
[1:29:42] the other things said here before I have that information.
[1:29:45] So I look to just support that third bullet. And.
[1:29:51] I'm possibly thinking on a motion arising after this, so
[1:29:53] if you come back to me. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:29:56] Councilor. Councilor Noel. Thank you. Actually. Councilor lure. Becky said
[1:30:02] a lot of what I was going to say. So
[1:30:06] on the surface, I like this idea. I think it
[1:30:08] is a good feel good motion. I do have some
[1:30:11] concerns. One of my concerns was also about spending the
[1:30:15] pay parking revenues. To fund this. I feel like that
[1:30:21] is a conversation that needs to take place. Either. With
[1:30:27] the public or among this council first. Firstly, I think
[1:30:31] we all have different ideas about how these finished bees.
[1:30:33] Personally, I would like to use them for tax relief
[1:30:35] for our residents. So I don't know how I feel
[1:30:39] about that. I'm glad we're going to move separation on
[1:30:42] these. I do have some concerns that the points between
[1:30:46] let center Moody Center Rocky Point park are already very
[1:30:50] accessible by transit. So I'm not sure how necessary. The
[1:30:57] shuttle is, although. For me. I'm okay with the staff
[1:31:02] report coming back, and let's take a look at what
[1:31:05] it's going to say, but for me, the final decision
[1:31:08] is going to be based on receiving information that shows
[1:31:10] that there's going to be an acceptable roi to the
[1:31:12] city. With an acceptable RoI to the city so that
[1:31:17] the use needs to match the value and the costs.
[1:31:20] I would actually like to. Move an amendment to the
[1:31:25] third bullet. To explicitly add that we should be looking
[1:31:30] at private sponsorships first before. Breaking into our pay parking
[1:31:34] revenues. And I also just want to comment that. If
[1:31:40] we do proceed with this, the communications piece has to
[1:31:42] be robust. It has to really get out that we
[1:31:46] can't afford to spend this money and make this big,
[1:31:49] even pilot commitment without making sure people are aware it
[1:31:52] exists. So for now, I will move the amendment to
[1:31:55] the third bullet. And the amendment would be. And that
[1:32:00] this service be paid. For through corporate sponsorships. Paid for,
[1:32:09] actually. Sorry. Doing this on the fly. Paid for through
[1:32:17] corporate sponsorships, if possible. And otherwise.
[1:32:27] Look at a different funding source. Okay, so you're striking
[1:32:32] the third bullet and you're saying that it be paid.
[1:32:34] For by corporate sponsorship, if possible, or other funding sources.
[1:32:39] Or other funding sources. Is my, is there a secondary
[1:32:42] for that. The fourth bullet, the third. Mdet the fourth
[1:32:47] bullet, the third. And is there a secondary for that.
[1:32:53] Okay. Do you have anything else you want to add
[1:32:58] to that? Yeah. Again. I think that instead of first
[1:33:04] diving right into our pay parking revenues to fund this,
[1:33:06] we need to be looking at other funding options. I
[1:33:08] think we should be looking outside of the city for
[1:33:10] corporate opportunities. We are developing our city. There's some significant
[1:33:16] density going in Moody Center. And I think we need
[1:33:21] to leverage some of the relationships we have to see
[1:33:23] if we can get some support to pay for this.
[1:33:25] If we can't, we can look at other funding. Options,
[1:33:28] including pay parking revenues. But I think just to immediately
[1:33:32] say. Let's use that. Money is a little problematic to
[1:33:35] me. Anybody else on this? On the amendment, councilor. Thank
[1:33:44] you. I appreciate what everybody said so far, and so
[1:33:48] it just sounds like. And the amendment that was made,
[1:33:51] but it sounds like maybe we'd all be more comfortable.
[1:33:54] If we just did the staff report back before committing
[1:33:58] to. The other bullets. I can't really make an amendment
[1:34:03] on an amendment. But I would just say we defer
[1:34:07] the other ones and just do the second and that
[1:34:11] the third statement. Okay, so we're speaking to an amendment,
[1:34:15] so if you don't. Support it, it fails, then we
[1:34:17] can bring another motion arising, another amendment, and just remove
[1:34:22] that bullet. And then have and determine a funding source
[1:34:25] at a later. Date, or depending on what happens with
[1:34:28] this amendment. Okay, so. Council. Yeah. So we're voting on
[1:34:33] the amendment, and then we also separate, and if it
[1:34:36] fails. Then we can move separation. Or we can move
[1:34:41] an amendment to this motion to just remove that bullet.
[1:34:46] Okay. Okay. I'll be moving deferral afterwards, I think. Okay.
[1:34:52] But. Let's just handle this one first. Councilor lubic. I
[1:34:57] was just going to say that I think I feel
[1:34:58] more comfortable having a conversation about how we're going to
[1:35:01] pay for it once. The staff will get back. Okay.
[1:35:05] Thank you, councilor. Morrison. Thank you for that. I appreciate
[1:35:09] that little extra clarity that I got from councilor Knowles
[1:35:11] after seconding it. And if that third bullet had been
[1:35:15] written. Paid for with a portion of as opposed to
[1:35:20] from a portion of. Then that leaves it more open
[1:35:23] to than just using that one source. So I agree
[1:35:26] with my colleagues. I won't. Support the amendment just for
[1:35:29] the interest of. Preferably just having staff report back with
[1:35:34] funding source. Options, et cetera. Everything that. We need. And
[1:35:39] I know it might not be able to be done
[1:35:40] sooner than September, but appreciate that. Thank you. All right.
[1:35:47] I'm not going to support the amendment, but. If it
[1:35:54] does fail, then I think the cleanest way to deal
[1:35:55] with this is to just. Remove that bullet, and then
[1:35:59] when. We get to in September. When we get the
[1:36:02] cost estimates and the plan, we can then determine the
[1:36:05] funding source. So I'll call the question on the amendment.
[1:36:10] All in favor? Opposed. Okay, it is. Opposed. Councilor Lubic
[1:36:19] Knowles, Morrison, myself, Agtrap, and Rebecca Post. Thank you for
[1:36:25] that support. Councilor. Tilworth. I'm going to move that bullet
[1:36:31] be removed. Seconded. And so that we don't have to
[1:36:36] be addressing. The source of payment at this time. All
[1:36:41] in favor? Opposed? Carrie. Thank you. So we are down
[1:36:44] to a main motion that. Has now only got three,
[1:36:50] and that. On that. I think everyone's had a chance.
[1:36:56] Oh, pardon. Councilor lubic. I'm sorry. I just wanted to
[1:37:02] ask. So I do think that this is a good
[1:37:04] thing to explore. Given what others have said about. Since
[1:37:12] the last time we had a pilot. We now have
[1:37:15] sky train and things like that, so. I'm wondering if
[1:37:19] there's an opportunity first after court back if there are
[1:37:22] areas of Port Moody. Where that are less served by
[1:37:29] transit. I know some of those may be more. What
[1:37:33] I'm trying to get at is are there some people
[1:37:35] in Port Moody that really have to drive and then
[1:37:37] park. Is there an opportunity for the shell to serve
[1:37:41] those neighborhoods? You could make a motion, or you could
[1:37:44] make an amendment to the last bullet to say when
[1:37:48] it says to determine if this pilot project is to
[1:37:50] be made permanent. And to recommend any potential expansion of
[1:37:55] the service to underserved portion of the community. To
[1:38:05] recommend potential expansion of the service team. Underserved portions of
[1:38:09] the community. So that is an amendment that's been seconded
[1:38:14] on the amendment. I'll just see a show of hands
[1:38:16] if anyone wants to speak to the amendment councilor. Morrison.
[1:38:21] Yes. And then I'll keep you in the queue. You're
[1:38:22] second in line after. Councilor Eggtrap. I appreciate that aspect
[1:38:26] of it. It seems really early for that when we
[1:38:30] don't have the report back to how that's not until
[1:38:32] October of 26. Yeah, so that's. Why we're kind of
[1:38:35] building it into a decision process right now before we've
[1:38:38] gotten the report back. It almost seems like it should
[1:38:39] be built into the report. After we get the report
[1:38:41] back. I want to be really clear. The motion is
[1:38:45] to establish the service. Yes, I'm aware. Of that, but
[1:38:48] it's just about the underserved aspect of it, because that
[1:38:50] report wouldn't come back until 2026. So I'll support it.
[1:38:55] It just seems like it's a little early for it.
[1:38:57] When we don't have the main report. Thank you. Thank
[1:38:59] you. Anyone else on the amendment? Who said yes. Councilor
[1:39:05] Knowles. Yeah, I agree. Perhaps I'm just not understanding the
[1:39:10] wording of this correctly. But the second bullet says. And
[1:39:13] that staff report back by September 2025 with a project
[1:39:16] plan and cost estimates for establishing this pilot, shoreline shuttle
[1:39:20] service. And then if we jump down to the last
[1:39:23] bullet and that staff. Report back with report outlining how
[1:39:26] it's already proceeded, including ridership, et cetera. Et cetera. So
[1:39:30] I also thought that was premature once I read it
[1:39:31] and once we removed the pay parking revenues item because
[1:39:35] I would prefer that we get a staff report on
[1:39:38] whether we want to even for me. There needs to
[1:39:40] be an Roi before I'm going to even agree to
[1:39:42] this. So I think what you're saying, Mayor Lottie, is
[1:39:44] that if we vote for this, is happening? Yes. The
[1:39:49] motion says that the city established a pilot program. Okay,
[1:39:53] in that case. We're on an amendment. I understand. That
[1:39:57] changes things for me in terms of the amendment, and
[1:40:00] I will speak to that, I suppose. Next. Okay. I
[1:40:04] will call the question on the amendment. All in favor?
[1:40:07] Opposed? Councilor Knowles and councilor Morrison are opposed to the
[1:40:11] amendment. And councilor Dilworth. Okay. All right. It passes. All
[1:40:18] right, so we're back to the main motion. And now
[1:40:24] I have a speaking lesson. Counselor. Agtrop and then councillor
[1:40:29] Morrison and then councilor Dilworth. All right? So we'll go
[1:40:34] to Councilor Agtrap first. Thank you. I think. Personally, and
[1:40:40] I think from what I'm hearing, is that we would
[1:40:42] all feel more comfortable that staff report back on this
[1:40:46] before we commit to establishing the pilot program or commit
[1:40:50] to running the service from any length of time or
[1:40:54] even the last bullet. Could we defer? Those other clauses
[1:41:01] until staff have reported back. Is that possible? I think
[1:41:07] the best. Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, you could
[1:41:14] do that. Then I'll move that. We defer the first
[1:41:19] clause, the second clause and the last clause until we
[1:41:24] get the third. Clause back. Is there a secondary? All
[1:41:29] right. There's no thank you debate on deferral. I'll call
[1:41:32] the question on deferral. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Okay,
[1:41:36] so now we're just down to reporting back. Councilor Eichrap,
[1:41:42] do you still have the floor? You're good, councilor. Morrison.
[1:41:46] On the motion, which is just to have the report
[1:41:48] back. Thank you. Thank you for that. I appreciate it,
[1:41:52] Councilor Eggcraft. And Petra, I just want. To say thanks
[1:41:54] to Mayor Lottie for thinking about this when I'm bringing
[1:41:57] this forward. Again. I know. We're going to get the
[1:41:59] report back on it. It's going to be an ROI,
[1:42:00] the whole thing. Staff are going to be good to
[1:42:01] go and we're going to get a chance to talk
[1:42:03] about it again, but I think that it's a creative
[1:42:06] way of providing a transport. Transportation option to people that
[1:42:10] may get them to actually come down now that there
[1:42:13] is paid parking. At Rocky Point park. There's no need
[1:42:15] to circle around. There is a cost to taking the
[1:42:18] bus. I get it. And there's a cost to parking
[1:42:20] down there. I get it. But this is a way
[1:42:21] to remove another barrier that has a cost. And I
[1:42:24] think that if it's going to get the ridership and
[1:42:27] its advertised properly, I think. It's a good thing to
[1:42:30] try as a pilot, so thank you for bringing it
[1:42:32] forward. And I'm looking forward to the report back. Thank
[1:42:36] you, council Dilwart. I'm going to step back my enthusiasm
[1:42:39] a little bit after having heard from my colleagues, and
[1:42:42] I totally get that there is a lack of information.
[1:42:46] And I have that information in my brain. That doesn't
[1:42:49] mean it automatically transfers to everyone. Else. So I'm very
[1:42:52] supportive of this. I'm very supportive of this process. Noting
[1:42:57] that. Well, sky train was in place. While the previous
[1:43:02] shuttle. Was in use, pay parking wasn't. And my antidotal
[1:43:09] memory is the people that use that shuttle were people
[1:43:11] that were walking from inlet center or they were coming
[1:43:14] down. Either the noon's creek corridor or heritage Mountain Boulevard.
[1:43:20] Parking at the rec center. And taking the shuttle to
[1:43:23] Rocky Point park or wherever else they were going. Maybe
[1:43:26] hard bean brunch who knows? But they were taking that
[1:43:29] shuttle because they didn't want to have to drive around
[1:43:32] the parking lot at Rocky Point park or even pay
[1:43:35] the $3 at the sky train, so that's. The primary
[1:43:41] audience that I remember. And I think with pay parking
[1:43:43] in place now, this is going to be a bigger
[1:43:45] incentive for people to park somewhere else and then jump
[1:43:49] on the shuttle. Thank you. There aren't any other comments.
[1:43:54] Yeah, I agree with a lot. And. I guess my
[1:43:58] enthusiasm is around. Similar to Councilor Dilworth. In that. This
[1:44:04] isn't. About. Not encouraging people to take transit or. Not
[1:44:12] recognizing that people have the ability to walk down. They
[1:44:17] do already. There are people in this community who will
[1:44:21] use it. I think that at peak times, when parking.
[1:44:29] Is demand is high. This is a reliable mode of
[1:44:32] transportation that they will become familiar with. It is a
[1:44:36] short period of time during the busy season, I guess.
[1:44:40] And that sort of mitigates the stress of finding parking.
[1:44:44] And. This service also. I think while I do appreciate
[1:44:50] the comments around that there is a bus. This is.
[1:44:55] Having our own service allows us to be able. To.
[1:44:59] Sort of, I guess, adapt it to specific community needs.
[1:45:03] And if there are areas or spots in the community
[1:45:06] that we think need to be addressed. We have the
[1:45:08] flexibility to do that. I know that families and seniors
[1:45:13] have, those are the main groups that have reached out
[1:45:15] and said that this is something that they would really
[1:45:17] like to see happen. So I'm really hoping that council
[1:45:20] will ultimately support this. So the motion is to have
[1:45:25] staff report back in September. So we look forward to
[1:45:28] having that report come back. I will call the question.
[1:45:31] All in favor? Opposed? Carrie? Thank you, everybody. Next item
[1:45:36] is the FIFA. Item, Councilor Knowles. Oh, councilor. Sure. Councilor
[1:45:42] Lebecki. Thank you. Listening to the discussion, I would like
[1:45:48] to move that staff report back with potential priority uses
[1:45:52] of paid parking reserves her review and discussion by council.
[1:45:56] So hoping we can move up that would that be.
[1:46:00] Would that be a council thing or a finance committee
[1:46:03] issue? Yeah, maybe at a finance committee, yeah. Let's have
[1:46:07] them report back to finance so councilor Knowles can handle
[1:46:10] that conversation. I think there's not an issue with that.
[1:46:14] Is there a second case been seconded? All in favor?
[1:46:17] Opposed? Carried. Thank you very much, councilor. We'll move on
[1:46:20] to the. Next item that I served, which is kind
[1:46:23] of a fun thing. That the city of Port Moody
[1:46:27] host public viewing opportunities for up to ten games at
[1:46:30] Rocky Point. Park during FIFA 2026 World cup between June
[1:46:34] 13 and July 19, and that these opportunities include any
[1:46:37] games played by Canada, as well as all quarterfinal, semifinal
[1:46:41] and final games. Staff report backed by September with a
[1:46:45] project. Plan and a budget that includes the communication and
[1:46:48] audiovisual equipment requirements. Security considerations, staffing requirements, as well as
[1:46:53] costs associated with FIFA licensing and the installation of a
[1:46:57] large, temporary east facing. Now, that could be amended depending
[1:47:01] on what they think, stage, screen and that. Staff investigate
[1:47:05] diverse options for funding these FIFA viewing opportunities, including sources
[1:47:09] from one time funding surplus. Funds, grants and sponsorships and
[1:47:13] that the Golden Spike Day Society summer Sunday concert series
[1:47:17] organizers and the Rotary Club of Port Moody be notified
[1:47:19] of the intention to utilize a portion of the park.
[1:47:22] For this purpose during these dates and events. Seconder and
[1:47:27] seconded. Councilor Knowles. Thank you. Almost no notes for me
[1:47:33] on this one. The only question I had. And it's
[1:47:38] more of a question through to. I don't know if
[1:47:39] it's. Through to staff. Would there be an opportunity even
[1:47:43] at just asking folks for a donation? I'm not necessarily
[1:47:49] trying to turn this into a revenue generating operation for
[1:47:52] us, although that wouldn't be the worst thing in the
[1:47:53] world. But just yes, in terms of diverse options for
[1:47:58] funding these opportunities, something like a tap. Like what? Golden
[1:48:02] spike uses at the entrance just to help cover costs.
[1:48:05] Anything that we can do? To. Lessen the cost to
[1:48:11] the city, I think. We can certainly. This doesn't preclude
[1:48:16] that from being an action, then I would just like
[1:48:18] to. Make those comments and have staff take those back.
[1:48:22] Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Morrison. Thank you. I'm
[1:48:25] in support of this. I just wanted to ask a
[1:48:27] question. If there's. The opportunity for any of our local
[1:48:29] charity, whether it be Crossroads hospice, et cetera, to be
[1:48:32] able to set up some sort of small booth for.
[1:48:35] Beverages, popcorn, snacks, et cetera, as part of this event
[1:48:38] as well. In the park as opposed to. Charity side.
[1:48:45] This kind of is handing it over to staff to
[1:48:46] say, what do you think we can do? There may
[1:48:48] be, like at some of the larger games or some
[1:48:51] of the more sort of the games that there will
[1:48:53] be more people, because I don't anticipate that there's, going
[1:48:55] to be a lot of people at all the games,
[1:48:58] but there might be that'd. Be kind of fun, but,
[1:49:01] yeah, I think that it's an opportunity to really think.
[1:49:04] Outside the box on how to support our community and
[1:49:07] how to bring the community together. Okay. The only other
[1:49:09] thing I would mention is the provision of shade, et
[1:49:13] cetera, to be. Mentioned there because it could be very
[1:49:16] hot and the ability to have some way of offering
[1:49:19] that. Ability. If possible. You have to have people encouraging
[1:49:23] people to bring umbrellas and to bring. Their own shade
[1:49:27] tents as well, because I know we have the bleacher
[1:49:30] stands that have been used previously and stuff like that,
[1:49:32] and there's the ability to shade those towards the back
[1:49:35] so you don't block everybody's view? Because I've had people
[1:49:38] set. Up tents for summers, Sundays. And it blocks your
[1:49:41] view all the way back if somebody sets up. A
[1:49:43] big dent for it. So I think it does need
[1:49:45] to be thought through, especially on those busy events. On
[1:49:47] how we can get people in there comfortably, but as
[1:49:49] well, make sure we're maximizing the amount of people that
[1:49:51] can view it. I'm going to sort of say that.
[1:49:56] The reason that I'm bringing this forward now is to
[1:49:57] give staff an opportunity to really think about this and
[1:50:00] to come back with something. That's ultimately going to be
[1:50:05] the best case scenario for the community. Okay? So I'm.
[1:50:08] In support of it. I think it's going to be
[1:50:10] a great community gathering opportunity. And of course, everybody gets
[1:50:13] around those international events, whether it be Olympics or FIFA,
[1:50:16] et cetera. To get behind Team Canada. Thank you. Thank
[1:50:20] you, councilor Lebecki. Thank you. I think this is. A
[1:50:28] very cool idea. I mean, party is like, well, what's
[1:50:29] it going to cost? But I think. A comfortable moving,
[1:50:33] supporting this as it is and assuming we'll move ahead
[1:50:36] with this, I guess. My first thought was, and I'm
[1:50:39] not sure if it sued a staff was like a
[1:50:41] screen in the middle of the day. If you've gone
[1:50:45] to any outdoor movies and it hasn't gone dark yet
[1:50:47] and you can't see anything. That's why I've got it.
[1:50:49] That's. Why I put the east facing. So that the
[1:50:52] sun's behind. Yeah. I'm not a professional technician or whatever,
[1:50:57] but I'm just trying to envision. Does that still work?
[1:50:59] If it does, great. I just can think of instances
[1:51:02] where I couldn't. See screens in the day. So just
[1:51:04] throwing that out there, maybe staff can confirm the angle.
[1:51:09] Obviously, Rocky Point park is very busy and there's competing
[1:51:12] interests, and some people are super. Into soccer. And some
[1:51:15] people are like, what's going on with soccer? And I'm
[1:51:18] mindful of this location in the summer. I think I
[1:51:22] have a little bit of worry about that. I think
[1:51:24] it's a special occasion, like the Olympics and people will
[1:51:27] be accepting that this is going on there and it's
[1:51:29] busier than normal and it's just like a fun short
[1:51:31] term thing. Yeah, so I support this. Just wanting to
[1:51:36] hear those kind of technical details back from staff, so.
[1:51:39] That we can make sure. It is what it is
[1:51:41] supposed to be. And people can see and they have
[1:51:42] a good time. And they have shade and they bring
[1:51:45] their umbrellas and all the rest. For sure. You don't
[1:51:49] want to spend money, set up something and have people
[1:51:52] not be able to. See the screen. That would be
[1:51:55] terrible waste. Thank you for that. Councilor. Councilor Dilworth. Thank
[1:52:01] you. I just have one brief question. Have we had
[1:52:04] any discussions with the Port Moody Soccer Club, or if
[1:52:07] we envision some ways that the soccer club might be
[1:52:10] involved in the provision of this. Because. These are, like,
[1:52:14] hardcore soccer fans, and I'm sure that they would love
[1:52:17] to be a part of it. Down, so I wanted
[1:52:20] to make sure that that was on our radar. What
[1:52:22] a wonderful idea. I'm sure staff is listening. Great. Thank
[1:52:26] you. I mean, there's lots of time between now and
[1:52:28] then to organize little things and demonstrations and even mini
[1:52:33] games. If potentially that's something that they want to do.
[1:52:36] All right. Councilor Eggtrap. Thank you. Just following on the
[1:52:43] rocky point sort of theme, I guess. And as you
[1:52:46] were saying, we're not sure who's going to show up
[1:52:49] or. How many people or who's playing. And because different
[1:52:53] teams draw different amounts of crowds. Right. If it's Canada,
[1:52:56] then it's. Going to be a totally different story, but
[1:52:58] I'm just wondering if there would be. Opportunity when staff
[1:53:01] was exploring this to look at potentially different locations depend.
[1:53:08] Can we be nimble enough that, depending on who's playing,
[1:53:12] maybe the semifinals and. Quarterfinal. Semifinal final games are at
[1:53:16] Rocky Point. I think that the reason that, yeah, I
[1:53:19] did put a lot of thought into that. It's going
[1:53:23] to be something that's semi permanent, so I don't think
[1:53:25] it's going to be something that's not part of going
[1:53:27] to be able to pick up and move from one
[1:53:29] part to the next, okay? Because. If there's other games.
[1:53:35] That are, I don't know that Canada or favorite teams
[1:53:37] are in. Is there a way we can utilize. Out
[1:53:41] back here for games that may be less popular. I
[1:53:46] don't know, just. Shining right on the screen. It's an
[1:53:49] unfortunate way. Ideally, that would be my first. I would
[1:53:54] think would be a great, because it'd be kind of
[1:53:55] a fun. It's. Already tiered, but your son is going
[1:53:58] to be right on the screen. We need a shade.
[1:54:02] I know something. About that. That has come and gone,
[1:54:07] my friend. All right. Thank you, Councilor Knowles. Come on.
[1:54:16] I did that to myself. I'm sorry. Yeah, councilor egg
[1:54:19] chop kind of beat me to it the more I
[1:54:21] was thinking about it. This might be a really good
[1:54:23] opportunity to kind of highlight and showcase some of our
[1:54:27] other parks. Rather than doing this at Rocky Point park.
[1:54:29] And I'm specifically thinking of, and I was just looking.
[1:54:32] I'm trying to find the name. The one by across
[1:54:34] from Glenair is. Huge. It has tons of shade and
[1:54:37] trees. It's got. A big area, and then there's also
[1:54:41] west hills, so. I just want to encourage. Us because
[1:54:46] Rocky Point is, Biggie is busy with big events. Can
[1:54:51] we just keep an open mind in terms of where
[1:54:53] I understand these are going to be? Semi permanent. But
[1:54:56] we have other parks. Yeah, I totally understand where you're
[1:55:00] coming from, okay? We want it to be central so
[1:55:05] that people can take transit, so people can take the
[1:55:07] shuttle. If they want to. People. Can access it. And,
[1:55:13] yes, we do have other parks, and I put lots
[1:55:16] of thought into perhaps West Hill because it's a covered
[1:55:19] area and it would be, but it's just. Not as
[1:55:21] accessible and if. You're actually drawing a few hundred people.
[1:55:27] It's probably not a good idea to be having that
[1:55:31] many vehicles because it's just not accessible. Okay. Right. So.
[1:55:36] Yeah, I totally understand where you're coming from. If there's
[1:55:40] any issue. No, sorry. That's okay. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:55:43] Yes, but. Yes, I'm sure. Staff. Will be considering all
[1:55:47] of that. All right, so I will call the question
[1:55:51] then. All in favor? Opposed? Carrie. Thanks, everybody. The next
[1:55:55] item is councilor. Lebecki's motion, and I will go to
[1:56:01] you. Councilor Becky, thank you so. I'm just going to
[1:56:04] go ahead. Everyone's reading tonight. I'll remind. That a meeting
[1:56:09] called a council town hall on the official committee plan
[1:56:12] is scheduled after first reading. And before second reading of
[1:56:14] the draft OCP and that the meeting serves as an
[1:56:17] open space. For residents who had feedback and questions for
[1:56:19] council regarding the draft OCP with the purpose to inform
[1:56:22] any council initiated changes to be tabled during second reading
[1:56:25] of the draft OCP and that this meeting be in.
[1:56:29] Person and live streamed with Zoom participation recorded, amended with
[1:56:33] counsel on the stage with support from senior staff chaired
[1:56:36] by the mayor, an open mic format allowed to be
[1:56:38] extended to support hearing from each resident who wishes to
[1:56:41] speak. And the designated sorry. A designed invitation is sent
[1:56:45] to every household. Thank you, councilor. Is there a second?
[1:56:50] Seconded by Councilor Newbeck. Thank you. So it's important when
[1:56:56] we're having this discussion tonight, I would like council to
[1:57:00] consider that we did have two discussions on this already.
[1:57:04] And in those discussions when I went back and I
[1:57:05] listened to the full discussions of both at the time.
[1:57:08] We did very clearly agree, and I believe, vote on
[1:57:11] having an open mic town hall. For whatever reason, this
[1:57:15] has not happened. I still believe it can, and I
[1:57:20] believe it must occur. Asking our community what they think
[1:57:24] and offering them direct access to freely express themselves and
[1:57:28] share their thoughts with us, with their elected officials. It's
[1:57:31] not adversarial or negative and I've heard these thrown out
[1:57:35] there lately, and I find it very perplexing. As a
[1:57:40] council, we may not agree with or like what we
[1:57:42] hear to town hall or people. Out of town hall
[1:57:44] might not agree with each other. But that is literally
[1:57:47] democracy. Right, creating spaces for respectful disagreement. And to be
[1:57:53] frank, we have people here every week. Very rarely is
[1:57:57] someone disrespectful at that mic. Extremely rare. So I really
[1:58:02] think. We need to honor that. And not make folks
[1:58:08] feel if they come and don't agree with something, we're
[1:58:11] doing or with each other that somehow they're being negative
[1:58:14] or adversarial or. They shouldn't feel good about being able
[1:58:17] to speak their mind. Town halls are a bedrock of
[1:58:22] our engagement processes in Port Moody for years and years.
[1:58:26] Literally, the creation of Bert Flynn park. Imagine if we
[1:58:28] didn't have an open mic. We wouldn't. Have for Flim
[1:58:30] Park. We've created these spaces through history. In our community.
[1:58:35] And they've had a difference because having that mic, having
[1:58:39] people be able to speak to the decision makers up
[1:58:41] here. It matters. 2011, 2014, OCPS 2018. I mean, honestly,
[1:58:47] there were hundreds and hundreds of people showing up. In
[1:58:51] the past to some of these meetings, whether it's council
[1:58:54] meetings, public hearings, and, yes, town halls because councils of
[1:58:58] the day created those spaces for people to come because
[1:59:02] they felt safe. And they felt empowered to do so.
[1:59:05] And I really do wonder why this is not happening
[1:59:08] under this council. And it means something is not working
[1:59:13] properly under our poaches. When we see 50 people. I'm
[1:59:17] sorry. That is not acceptable to me. That is not
[1:59:19] a high enough number of people to be acceptable. For
[1:59:22] an OCP engagement. Town hall. Something we're doing is just
[1:59:26] not working. Less engagement is a bad thing. It's not
[1:59:29] a good thing. And when I hear from people in
[1:59:32] the community that stop me in a coffee shop, and
[1:59:35] they're so passionate, they share their thoughts with me about
[1:59:38] the future of our community. I'm like, hey, why don't
[1:59:40] you come into council? I haven't seen you. Why don't
[1:59:41] you come? On down. All too often I hear, because
[1:59:45] what does it matter? And that breaks my heart. And
[1:59:48] I think, we should be doing everything we can to
[1:59:51] change that narrative that is existing in our community, because
[1:59:54] I'm hearing it on the ground all the time. So
[1:59:58] this doesn't need to be adversarial. This doesn't need to.
[2:00:01] Be political. We've already had this conversation, and there seemed
[2:00:04] to be immense agreement around this. Table. At the time,
[2:00:08] just over. A year ago, and I just don't know.
[2:00:13] What possibly could have changed since then, except for a
[2:00:16] feeling that people are not as happy as they were.
[2:00:19] And that should not be a reason we don't open
[2:00:21] up that mic. We've heard support in the cuny to
[2:00:24] have this town hall like we've always had town. Halls.
[2:00:27] We've already tried the other way. We've had the Slido
[2:00:30] app and. The facilitator kind of rounding out questions and
[2:00:32] summarizing things for people. Again, 50 people showed up and
[2:00:36] took advantage of that. If at a town hall, we
[2:00:39] want to throw in an app as well somehow, then
[2:00:42] sure. But it needs to be open mic. It needs
[2:00:44] to be documented. It needs to be recorded. It needs
[2:00:47] to be accessible. Everyone should be invited and we should
[2:00:49] stay here as long as it takes. I'll stay here
[2:00:51] all night long to hear from people, and very importantly,
[2:00:55] Very importantly. The public hearing is not enough time to
[2:00:59] do what I'm asking for, so I'm. Hoping for council
[2:01:01] support. Thank you, councilor. I will just point out we
[2:01:06] never had a town hall on Bert Flynn park, but
[2:01:08] we did. Have a very robust and long. Public hearing
[2:01:12] that went till two in the morning. Councilor dilworth. Town
[2:01:19] hall meetings. We've had different formats here, Mayor Lottie, I.
[2:01:24] Don't you remember there was. One meeting, we were sitting
[2:01:26] on pillows on the bleachers, the steps down below, talking
[2:01:31] to youth. We've had town hall meetings that our staff
[2:01:34] led. We've had town hall meetings that have been developer
[2:01:37] led out in the galleria. So I went down a
[2:01:40] little bit. Of. A rabbit hole. And there's no one
[2:01:44] succinct definition of what a town. Hall meeting is. It's
[2:01:48] one group of people listening to another group of people.
[2:01:52] And I would totally support an OCP. On. Sorry. A
[2:01:57] town hall meeting on the OCP. What I've been struggling
[2:02:00] against is. The timing. We have not had to draft
[2:02:03] OCP come to council table yet. We have nothing. To
[2:02:06] respond. To. I also. Look at going back to what
[2:02:12] does the provincial government do for town hall meetings? Mlas.
[2:02:15] Quite often do independent telephone town hall meetings. What a
[2:02:22] nonprofit organizations do? What do private companies do? Everyone does
[2:02:26] something a little bit different and I want to acknowledge
[2:02:29] that as councilor Lebecki said, port Moody is a leader.
[2:03:07] Nobody is afraid of hearing what our public has. To
[2:03:13] say it's how we do it. And when I note
[2:03:16] that local government there's, no definition in the community charter
[2:03:20] or. In Local Government act about having a town hall
[2:03:25] meeting. It's something that's grown. A little bit organically. And
[2:03:28] as I said earlier, if it's a marriage, town hall
[2:03:30] meeting, the mayor gets to define what that town hall
[2:03:33] meeting looks like. If council is going to have a
[2:03:35] town hall council gets to define. What that looks like.
[2:03:41] I'm certainly not afraid, and I don't think there should
[2:03:43] be any insinuation that we are. It's part of a
[2:03:47] process, and I'll just close by. Saying, one of the
[2:03:49] reasons that I think we've got away from doing town
[2:03:51] hall meetings is because. The online engagement tools are growing
[2:03:59] faster and quicker and providing. More access than we've ever
[2:04:03] had. With our residents before online. And I would say
[2:04:08] certainly going through Covid and looking at the challenge of
[2:04:10] just getting our committee meetings back in person. People don't
[2:04:14] want to come to city hall. They want to. Sit
[2:04:17] at home in their living room from the comfort of
[2:04:19] their computer or their laptop or even their tv. To
[2:04:24] see what's going on at town hall. There's not a
[2:04:28] one size fit all approach. And certainly it's not the
[2:04:32] end all and be all, but it's certainly one. Tool
[2:04:34] in the toolbox. That we have on discussing any issue,
[2:04:37] whether it's the OCP, whether it's public safety, whether it's
[2:04:41] snow. It's one tool in the toolbox. So. Yeah, I'm
[2:04:46] looking forward to it. I want to reference something councillor
[2:04:50] Lubecki said earlier. She said, I hope we get everything.
[2:04:53] And all the consultation. Council. Rebecca, you're going to get
[2:04:58] that 2500 page binder. It's coming. So having been through
[2:05:05] that before, Careful what you ask for. Sometimes you'll be
[2:05:08] reading for days. So. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Councilor
[2:05:14] Eggtrap. Thank you. I do strongly support meaningful public engagement
[2:05:19] on these OCP. I think it's really important. To also
[2:05:22] recognize staff's engagement. On all the staff's effort in all
[2:05:26] the engagement conducted today, I feel that this has been
[2:05:29] quite extensive and. This process started back in 2021. So
[2:05:37] multiple years of engagement with multiple formats. And as was
[2:05:43] referenced, It seems like. The engagement for different forms was
[2:05:51] higher in the past. But this spring, we've had seven
[2:05:54] OCP related events, and including working with youth, which I
[2:05:58] greatly appreciate that staff has done that. And I believe
[2:06:03] that this is all being done in good faith to
[2:06:05] ensure that the public's. Voices have been heard. And are
[2:06:10] reflected. I believe that's reflected in the document. In item
[2:06:15] 7.1, and I believe that staff will reflect that. In
[2:06:19] the draft. OCP. But I do wonder. If people are
[2:06:23] tired. And why. Are we not seeing sort of what
[2:06:29] the engagement levels were on, like, paper surveys? What is
[2:06:33] the difference. I'm not necessarily opposed to this, but. I
[2:06:41] want to make sure that we are spending time and
[2:06:44] effort in eliciting. Responses from people we haven't heard from.
[2:06:50] And how do we do that and how do we
[2:06:52] do this in a good way? Where we are seeking
[2:06:56] to create. Mutual understanding. Learning about things. That, like a
[2:07:04] two way learning? So I just have some reservations about
[2:07:08] this format. And I would rather refer this to staff
[2:07:12] and not. Be dogmatic about the format itself, but how
[2:07:18] do we do this? In a way. That. We're collectively
[2:07:23] well served, that we have clear outcomes and clear objectives
[2:07:27] defined so that we're ensuring that the feedback from this
[2:07:31] engagement process. Is not only transparently shared. But. The outcomes
[2:07:38] are clearly articulated and how we are going to use
[2:07:41] that and how that is going to be reflected. And
[2:07:44] I think perhaps one of the things. That is not
[2:07:47] missing, but maybe just not. The lines aren't so clearly
[2:07:50] drawn is like when we get feedback and when it
[2:07:54] summarize, how does that relate? Can people see the clear
[2:07:58] lines between their feedback and how is that reflected in
[2:08:02] the document? And so. I don't really have an answer
[2:08:06] to this, but I do think. Where we are right
[2:08:09] now in this conversation does speak to a need for
[2:08:12] better communication and. Better just drawing more clear lines so
[2:08:21] that people understand when they give feedback. Where is that
[2:08:24] reflected? In the OCP, so I'll just leave it there.
[2:08:28] Thanks. Okay. Thank you. Councilor Lubeck. Thank you so much.
[2:08:36] So as we saw tonight, The 2025 engagement report. And
[2:08:42] we know that that's been done. For years now. Staff
[2:08:46] have been doing an amazing job, and I'm really looking
[2:08:48] forward to what they bring. Together and present to council.
[2:08:52] I actually, as one of our residents said, really enjoyed
[2:08:55] the last OCP town hall. I did hear some frustration
[2:08:59] that the questions were rewarded or not accurately. Interpreted. And
[2:09:06] I was also a little bit disappointed, if I'm honest,
[2:09:09] that we didn't. Have enough time for that dialogue portion,
[2:09:11] but it was great that we got everyone's questions. Answered
[2:09:14] as best as we could. I am supportive of having
[2:09:19] a town hall once that OCP has been actually presented,
[2:09:22] so we have something to talk about. But I think
[2:09:29] it's really important. And Councilor Eggcraft stole all my words.
[2:09:34] But I think it's really important that we articulate why
[2:09:37] we're doing the engagement and help people understand. What? Nobody's
[2:09:45] vision of the ocp. Is going to be exactly reflected
[2:09:49] in what we get back. It won't be everything that
[2:09:52] I want. It won't be everything that my neighbors want,
[2:09:54] but it will be somewhere in the middle of what
[2:09:56] if staff have tried to done to incorporate everybody's feedback
[2:10:00] and everybody's input, and so I think it's really important
[2:10:03] that we have a town hall where people can really
[2:10:05] articulate where they don't. See their don't or do see
[2:10:09] their. Visions articulated. And I think that we did that
[2:10:13] really well with the park town hall. What we heard
[2:10:16] back. Staff were able to take that, make some amendments,
[2:10:21] and also articulate where maybe it wasn't. So clear that
[2:10:24] that was the plan. But I also think. The way.
[2:10:31] And I think that public engagement is always important. I
[2:10:33] think back a lot to there was a mayor that
[2:10:35] I was on a panel on depolarization on. And he
[2:10:40] said that when their OCP came out, this was some
[2:10:43] small town. In the us. But he said when their
[2:10:46] ocp came out, Everyone. It's not that everybody agreed, but
[2:10:51] it was that they understood. How their comments had been
[2:10:56] reflected in that document. So they had very little pushback
[2:10:59] in the community. And I think it's really important that
[2:11:02] people do see that we have listened and how? So
[2:11:06] I'm happy to have a town hall. I do think
[2:11:09] that. We should potentially refer this. I'm not going to
[2:11:12] make the motion because I won't. Hear from my colleagues,
[2:11:14] but I do think we should potentially refer this to
[2:11:16] strategic initiatives and rather meaning to talk about what kind
[2:11:20] of format? Open mic online hybrid. Tables. What would help
[2:11:29] us elicit what we need to make sure everyone feels
[2:11:32] heard but also safe. And is encouraged to provide, to
[2:11:37] take part in whatever way makes sense to them. Well.
[2:11:44] The motion is very prescriptive on that, so. If you're
[2:11:48] wanting to refer this. To. A committee meeting for further
[2:11:54] discussion. You can make that motion. Or amend this motion.
[2:12:03] To remove that and just say that it be referred
[2:12:06] to a committee meeting. To determine the format, the exact
[2:12:10] format. So it's up to you how you would like
[2:12:16] to do on that. Sounds good. I will wait because
[2:12:18] I know that. Thank you. Put that out there to
[2:12:21] council for consideration. Councilor Knowles. Thank you. I essentially want
[2:12:28] to echo a lot of what councilor Eggtrap said. We've
[2:12:33] had several discussions about this already. Seven OCP events. My
[2:12:37] concern is that exactly what you said. Maryland, this is
[2:12:40] a very prescriptive motion that has already been seconded in
[2:12:43] front of us without any information. About cost. Even this
[2:12:49] designed invitation. I don't know what that means. Perhaps. The
[2:12:53] mover can clarify what that means as opposed to what
[2:12:57] we normally send to households, but yes. For me, the
[2:13:01] major concern. Is. There's no discussion about costs here. And
[2:13:07] considering we've had so many OCP events and we plan
[2:13:10] to have more and we've already received so much information.
[2:13:14] I cannot support the motion as it is currently. On
[2:13:19] the table. I would be willing to support referring this
[2:13:21] back to staff to bring back report. Regarding feasibility, resources,
[2:13:25] timeline, et cetera. Thank you. Okay, so what I'm hearing
[2:13:29] is question. About cost, question about format or concern. About.
[2:13:36] Maybe not. Having nailed down the correct. Way to gather
[2:13:41] that information. And I will add in. My concern around
[2:13:47] the timing and stuff. So whatever we decide and listen,
[2:13:52] I'm going to. Support whatever council wants to do here.
[2:13:56] But we need to make sure that. We're not interfering
[2:14:01] with a process that has a timeline. And not to
[2:14:05] say that we cannot delay it if we choose to,
[2:14:08] but we do have a timeline. We are required to
[2:14:12] have this wrapped up at a certain point, so we
[2:14:15] just want to make sure that staff can confirm that
[2:14:17] this. Is not going to. In any way or how
[2:14:22] we can make this happen. Without. Sort of threatening or
[2:14:27] in any way putting. Any creating a problem for staff.
[2:14:36] Councilor morrison. Thank you, mayor. I appreciate the motion. And
[2:14:44] the attempt to try to have a more concrete design
[2:14:47] of. What council Lebecki is trying to see at one
[2:14:50] of these town halls. Where I agree with my colleagues,
[2:14:55] including councilor Lubic and councilor Agtrap, is around the gap
[2:15:00] in information. What are we missing? What are we trying
[2:15:02] to get? And I appreciate that because. I actually thought
[2:15:08] that the way that we did our last. Town hall
[2:15:11] engagement process. Council was accessible. We were here. Or most
[2:15:15] of us were here. I don't think all of us
[2:15:16] came in person, but most of us were here in
[2:15:19] person. Could be accessed before or. After the meeting. We
[2:15:23] had staff, the professionals of. These particular documents, answering questions
[2:15:27] from the public that council may not be able to
[2:15:30] answer anyways. And we would just be saying, hey, can
[2:15:33] you answer this for us? Staff member x. And they
[2:15:38] had an open mic session at the OCP portion where
[2:15:40] people could raise their hand. And actually speak. If they
[2:15:42] wanted to speak with the open mic, they had the
[2:15:45] opportunity to submit. Something online, anonymously, up on a board
[2:15:49] that everybody could see and help vote. And we could
[2:15:53] answer. And all the questions were answered online as much
[2:15:55] as possible after the fact. So I'm just wondering what
[2:16:00] different group of people is going to come out to
[2:16:03] another one of these town halls that hasn't already been
[2:16:05] represented. It just feels like. We're trying to redo the
[2:16:10] same thing over and over again to get a different
[2:16:12] result? We have 50 people show up. Each time and
[2:16:18] say the same sort of things, and I'm not hearing
[2:16:20] a ton of different concerns, and I'm wondering what another
[2:16:23] town hall is going to do. Now, perhaps, like my
[2:16:27] colleagues have mentioned, Having. That the draft, full draft version
[2:16:33] come out and be able to really dig into it
[2:16:35] first, would be helpful and maybe there are some concerns
[2:16:39] and things that come up, and that's the whole idea
[2:16:41] of having the multiple readings to the OCP, including a
[2:16:46] public hearing. In regards to the OCP, that would happen
[2:16:49] as well. So I agree that we want to be
[2:16:53] as accessible and make this as open as possible for
[2:16:56] people to communicate with. Council we have two opportunities every
[2:16:59] single meeting for people to tell us their thoughts on
[2:17:01] anything, not just what's on the agenda. We're very fluid,
[2:17:05] as Councilor Dilworth mentioned, in regards to how much public
[2:17:07] input we accept. And they can talk about the OCP
[2:17:11] every single time they want to call in. If they
[2:17:13] want to, but they don't. So. I'm always, always happy
[2:17:19] to hear from the public. And I was standing outside
[2:17:23] waiting for people to come up and chat with me
[2:17:24] about my thoughts on it if they really wanted to.
[2:17:26] Be directly speaking to a counselor or a counsel. And
[2:17:31] one or two people maybe came up to me afterwards,
[2:17:33] and I'm not sure if that's the same experience that
[2:17:35] my other colleagues had in regards to it, but it
[2:17:38] was typically single issues, questions and. Easy, straightforward answers that
[2:17:43] I could give if I had the ability to give
[2:17:45] it or refer to the right department to get more
[2:17:48] information if they didn't, but. I want this to be
[2:17:52] effective for the purpose of the public input, not to
[2:17:54] just be another. Opportunity for the same people to come
[2:17:56] out and say the same thing that we've heard. Two
[2:17:59] or three times because a lot of the same people
[2:18:01] came to both of those town halls. Around the same
[2:18:05] issue. And I think that our normal process that we
[2:18:08] have for this with the seven engagement sess. Sessions. That
[2:18:12] councilor Ektrap mentioned and councilor Knowles mentioned. Is great. Plus
[2:18:17] the remaining stages we still have to go through. And
[2:18:19] if at that point we feel that we do need
[2:18:22] to have this town hall. I am absolutely happy to
[2:18:25] do that. If there's that many questions coming up that
[2:18:27] was completely out of left field that we need. To
[2:18:30] really hone in on, but unless we're getting different information
[2:18:33] from groups that haven't been represented. I don't know if
[2:18:35] it's going to be val. Valuable to the same extent.
[2:18:38] Thank you. I think, to be fair, to date. The
[2:18:46] engagement. Has been. On collecting input on what the potential
[2:18:52] plan would be. What councilor Larbecci is referring to. Is
[2:18:59] actually after that document has the draft document has been
[2:19:02] received. To then have that be discussed. As a document
[2:19:08] as opposed to. Seeking an opportunity for engagement, so I
[2:19:14] see value in that. But I don't disagree. With. Many
[2:19:20] of the comments around the fact that perhaps maybe we
[2:19:23] want to talk a little bit more. About what we
[2:19:25] want that to look like because. Obviously, what I'm hearing
[2:19:29] around the table is a desire to have transparency. To
[2:19:34] have counsel. Hear from the community, and most importantly, I
[2:19:40] think the most important aspect of Councilor Becky's motion is.
[2:19:47] That. The purpose is to inform counsel initiated changes to
[2:19:51] the document not dissimilar to the changes that occurred. After.
[2:19:59] The town hall that we just received, that we just
[2:20:03] held on park expansion, which did as councilor. Lubic stated
[2:20:08] lead to changes to that potential document. So I do
[2:20:13] see value in receiving that input. I don't disagree, though,
[2:20:18] that perhaps, maybe we want to have a further discussion.
[2:20:22] About what that looks like so that we can really
[2:20:24] take advantage of. Really making this a meaningful. Interaction with
[2:20:32] our community and. What we really want to try and
[2:20:36] do is create an atmosphere where people can provide their
[2:20:39] input. We can answer questions that we have the ability
[2:20:42] to answer. You're right. We may be. Referring a lot
[2:20:45] of it to staff. But it's an opportunity, another opportunity
[2:20:49] for the community. Now, again, my biggest concern is timing.
[2:20:54] And. How? We would roll that out. And so I'm
[2:21:02] going to go to councilor Dilworth, because I see she
[2:21:04] has her hand up for a second time, and then
[2:21:07] I'm going to ask staff if they can sort of
[2:21:10] give us a little bit of information or some advice
[2:21:14] on, if we wanted to. Have another opportunity after the
[2:21:18] document has been received, what the timing might look like
[2:21:21] for something like that. So, Councilor Dorwood, do you have
[2:21:23] something new to add? Through to Ms. Lamb. Do we
[2:21:27] know exactly how much time I have left of my
[2:21:30] five minute speaking. Okay. I'll be really quick. I just
[2:21:35] want to pick up on some of the things I've
[2:21:37] heard from my colleagues, and it's about where are the
[2:21:39] gaps in information? That we're not getting. Who aren't we
[2:21:43] hearing from? And how can we better? Support and incentivize.
[2:21:47] And I'll use three examples. Youth focus committee. Bringing pizza
[2:21:53] to those meetings got those kids to come out and
[2:21:56] serve on committees. When we used to have our budget
[2:21:59] town hall meetings every year, we'd have a budget. Town
[2:22:01] hall meeting, and we would have an iPad as a
[2:22:04] raffle, and we could fill this. Theater with people. But
[2:22:07] are they coming for the chance of winning an iPad,
[2:22:09] or are they actually. Coming down to provide input or
[2:22:13] hear what we had to say about the budget and
[2:22:15] the taxes. And the third one is we have large
[2:22:20] ethnic communities in Port Moody. How do we hear from
[2:22:24] them. Is it something as simple as providing a translator?
[2:22:28] I'm not looking to rework the process. I'm not looking
[2:22:32] at adding extra work to staff, but I think it's
[2:22:34] a conversation that we have, and if it means a
[2:22:38] referral to the strategic initiatives committee where staff will come
[2:22:42] prepared with some information, maybe some answers to the questions
[2:22:45] that we've raised tonight. Why don't I do that right
[2:22:49] now? Why don't I just make a motion? To refer
[2:22:50] this to the strategic initiative committee at the soonest possible
[2:22:55] time. To have a further discussion. On. The well served
[2:23:01] outcomes that we're looking for. How do we meet them
[2:23:04] and define further? What the process might look like. Thank
[2:23:07] you. Can I ask? That. Thank you for that, councilor.
[2:23:15] That staff. When is the next meeting that this could
[2:23:20] be? I know these things take time, so. I don't
[2:23:26] want us to be in any way interfering with staff.
[2:23:31] Timelines. If we don't have to, but. We may be
[2:23:36] doing that inadvertently, Ms. Smith. Go
[2:23:46] ahead. Through the chair. Currently, what staff have queued up
[2:23:50] is based on the endorsement of the community. Engagement summary.
[2:23:54] Tonight we are bringing the draft of the OCP to
[2:23:57] the July 15 committee. Then if that was supported there,
[2:24:04] the next step would be bringing it forward. For first
[2:24:06] reading in September. Okay, so July. Okay. So. For September.
[2:24:15] Okay. For first reading. First reading September and then referral
[2:24:19] for public hearing, which would be later in the fall
[2:24:21] with adoption by the end of the year. So it
[2:24:24] seems like this. Is. A doable. Something we can achieve.
[2:24:30] With this motion. It could be on the strategic initiatives
[2:24:34] committee on July 15 at the same night. That we
[2:24:38] receive it and then we can have the conversation. Okay.
[2:24:46] If this is endorsed. Okay. So this is being referred
[2:24:51] to a committee so we can have a discussion. Is
[2:24:54] there anybody that wishes to speak to this. Just put
[2:24:57] your hand up. Councilor Lebecki. Thank you. So my understanding
[2:25:02] is this motion. Is being referred to committee, so I
[2:25:04] can support that. I hesitantly support that. And the reason
[2:25:08] is what I described, which is we talk about this
[2:25:11] twice. The reason I'm so prescriptive is what I said,
[2:25:14] which is we talked about. It and talked about it
[2:25:16] in minute detail, past motions that didn't have those details
[2:25:21] and then nothing like that happens. So again, I'm not.
[2:25:24] What happened was, well. Done. Absolutely. But it did not
[2:25:28] align with the council conversation. Again, I don't know how.
[2:25:30] That happened. Anyway, let's move on. But I would be
[2:25:33] curious. Which of these exactly, council? Would disagree with, right?
[2:25:38] I don't want to move away from the intention, and
[2:25:40] the community is watching. And how clear this is. What
[2:25:45] the goals are that have not been achieved. Is that
[2:25:47] open free space? So sure, let's. Talk about it. I'm
[2:25:50] a little gun shy of going down the same path
[2:25:53] where we think we blended on something and it doesn't
[2:25:55] happen that way. So I will strongly be advocating for
[2:25:58] the goals that are outlined here, but if we want
[2:26:00] to send it to comedian, make sure that we get
[2:26:02] this exactly perfect. Absolutely right. With the most people possible,
[2:26:05] then. That's awesome. Thank you. I'm envisioning something that actually
[2:26:10] adds to this. It? Perhaps, maybe additional. Something additional I'm
[2:26:16] not taking away. Okay, anyone else that wants to speak
[2:26:19] to this? Okay, I've got councilor Lubic and then councilor
[2:26:23] Knowles in order. Go ahead, Councilor Lubic. Thank you very
[2:26:29] much. I think I'm just going to. Echo for now.
[2:26:31] What? Councilor Diller said. And two things that came through
[2:26:35] my mind, like translation services. I don't know how expensive
[2:26:38] that is. I think that is a really good idea.
[2:26:40] Or even just like, specific outreach, because we know, we
[2:26:43] do have some community organizations. And the other thing was,
[2:26:47] I know that pizza is sometimes just a way to
[2:26:50] get people here. That maybe don't care as much. But
[2:26:54] food is also what brings us together. And when our
[2:26:57] bellies are full, we're happier and we make better decisions,
[2:27:00] and we're also nicer to each other. So I would
[2:27:04] strongly advocate for food to be available. Food. And child
[2:27:09] care. Okay, well, we can have those conversations at that
[2:27:12] meeting. Thank you, councilor. Councilor. Knowles. Yeah. So, again, to
[2:27:18] reiterate my primary concern, although I do agree the timing
[2:27:21] is an issue, especially since we have already delayed this
[2:27:26] to give extra time to the park lounge. Strategy is.
[2:27:29] Again costs. So I'm hoping that. If we vote to
[2:27:33] refer this to strategic committee meeting, if we could also
[2:27:36] get some information at that regarding potential costs. I would
[2:27:41] personally appreciate that. That's going to be the information that
[2:27:44] I'm looking for. Thank you. Do you need direction on
[2:27:47] that? Staff will have that for us. Okay, I don't
[2:27:51] see any other comments or questions here. So this is
[2:27:56] a good thing. We're not voting this down. We're actually,
[2:28:00] I think, promoting this. To further conversation so that we
[2:28:03] can get it right. So on the motion to refer
[2:28:06] to strategic priorities to further discuss. The format. I'll call
[2:28:12] the question. All in favor? Opposed? Carried unanimously. Thank you
[2:28:16] for that. And thank you, Councilor Becky, for bringing that
[2:28:18] forward. We'll go to councilor. Sorry. We'll go to item
[2:28:24] 11.8, which. Is councilor Agtarap's motion. Thank you. And in
[2:28:28] the interest of time, I. Will buck the trend. I
[2:28:30] will not read it. I'm assuming you all have. Second.
[2:28:35] Moved and seconded. Okay. Just some general remarks on it.
[2:28:40] We all know that businesses are facing rising costs, shifting
[2:28:43] consumer habits, and intense pressure from circumstances beyond their control.
[2:28:47] And in times of economic uncertainty, commercial landlords may default
[2:28:51] to safe tenants. So those anchor. Tenants. That are like
[2:28:57] banks and other things like that. That may be lower
[2:29:01] risk but also have lower impact on. Employment generation, foot
[2:29:05] traffic, and streetscape interaction. So I believe that city policy
[2:29:10] can be a tool to ensure that we foster the
[2:29:13] port Moody's diverse and dynamic economy that I know we
[2:29:15] all support. Ground level commercial spaces play a critical role
[2:29:20] in advocating streetscapes, drawing people to interesting spaces. And supporting
[2:29:26] local economic diversity. This motion is about exploring options to
[2:29:29] ensure our policies and zoning support a diverse mix of
[2:29:32] retail, service and cultural spaces. The toas are growing hubs,
[2:29:36] and as we densify in these areas, we need to
[2:29:39] signal our desire for intentional placemaking. So that we don't
[2:29:43] default to passive low interaction uses. That, while important, don't
[2:29:46] necessarily support neighborhood vitality and don't necessarily need to be
[2:29:51] located on the street front. This motion is not about
[2:29:54] restricting, but about creating. Intentional space for better outcomes. For
[2:29:59] example, understanding the barriers to subdivision of larger spaces into
[2:30:03] smaller ones. Could provide much needed flexibility and support local
[2:30:07] and small scale and startup businesses that are currently priced
[2:30:09] out of larger and newer spaces. Similarly, mapping existing health
[2:30:14] services allows us to plan proactively. Understanding service gaps and
[2:30:19] align with broader equity and access. Schools. This supports, not
[2:30:23] replaces, provincial planning and our UBCM advocacy. From 11.3 young
[2:30:27] primary care clinics in general. This motion is asking for
[2:30:31] the Economic Development and Tourism Committee feedback before proceeding. Down
[2:30:34] a path that takes up too much staff time. This
[2:30:37] exploratory work with the committee is intended to inform future
[2:30:40] steps and aligns with the committee's current work plan. I
[2:30:43] believe this motion also supports our collective vision and aligns
[2:30:47] with our desire for vibrant and prosperous community. So I
[2:30:50] hope everyone can support this. Thank you. Thank you, councilor.
[2:30:53] Any feedback, councilor? Morrison. Thank you. I appreciate this motion
[2:30:58] by councilor egg trap because I know that this discussion
[2:31:00] has come up at council about. What do we want?
[2:31:04] Our toas and our denser areas and our evolving new.
[2:31:09] Hubs to look like as far as commercial services go.
[2:31:12] And what other things have we seen? In other municipalities
[2:31:14] that have been challenges, and we talk about North Road,
[2:31:18] Clark Road, et cetera. And the distribution of certain types
[2:31:21] of services. Being represented or overrepresented in those areas. So
[2:31:27] I appreciate this being referred to the economic development tourism
[2:31:30] committee. We have discussed a little bit, not as much
[2:31:34] in depth as that this is requesting about ways in
[2:31:37] which we can try to encourage certain. Commercial uses, specifically
[2:31:42] on ground level to create that vibrancy, et cetera, in
[2:31:46] those areas. To encourage more pedestrian friendly and higher turnover
[2:31:52] that helps those smaller shops with their ability to survive.
[2:31:56] As opposed to professional services such as dentists or nail
[2:32:00] salons, et cetera, that may not have that same amount,
[2:32:04] but can charge higher dollar amounts to survive. Banks is
[2:32:07] another example. They're usually quite well established anchor tenants. That
[2:32:12] landlords look for because they pay well and they are
[2:32:15] there forever. So I appreciate this. The one thing that
[2:32:21] did come up, though, in the committee was the fact
[2:32:23] that a lot of times. By the time even a
[2:32:25] project gets the first reading with us, they've almost already.
[2:32:29] Determined their anchor tenants. We're talking years in advance of
[2:32:33] being even built. So that's. One thing that there was
[2:32:36] a little bit of discussion about our sustainability report card
[2:32:39] trying to get more information in advance, perhaps different ways
[2:32:42] of scoring through that to try to encourage local small
[2:32:45] business and the diversity of businesses, and it's a lot
[2:32:48] easier when you have a master plan. Community like what
[2:32:50] we have in Newport village with one developer doing it
[2:32:52] all, or in Suterbrook with one developer doing it all
[2:32:56] where they can balance their tenant mixes to make sure
[2:32:58] that everybody can survive, as opposed to individual landowners having
[2:33:03] control over one small lot and there being seven. 8910
[2:33:06] of them. So I am supportive of this. I don't
[2:33:10] know what some of the legal context will be, but
[2:33:11] I'm hoping that our manager of economic development. Will be
[2:33:15] able to provide that information to us if we have
[2:33:19] the power to be able to. Do anything about that
[2:33:22] and restrict anything like that. I hope we'll get those
[2:33:24] answers at the committee when it does come to it,
[2:33:26] if it is supported by the rest of my colleagues.
[2:33:28] But thank you for bringing it forward. Thank you. Councilor.
[2:33:31] Councilor lubic. Thank you so. Much. I'll be very brief,
[2:33:34] as I know. It's late, but I just wanted to
[2:33:36] say I really appreciate this being brought forward. And I
[2:33:40] think for me, one of the critical pieces is really
[2:33:42] that activation of the pedestrian realm. And understanding that foot
[2:33:47] track that businesses need and that really. Is how the
[2:33:51] business ecosystems can thrive. And we've talked a lot about
[2:33:57] in the tod area, those small businesses that are going
[2:34:01] to be struggling or are struggling. Because of some of
[2:34:04] the rents that they're facing. So I think I know
[2:34:08] the Economic Development Committee is very passionate about this, as
[2:34:11] this committee. So I look forward to hearing what the
[2:34:15] results are. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. My only comment
[2:34:18] is going to be sort of like I look at
[2:34:21] the motion that was served by councilor. Councilor Lubic and
[2:34:25] I earlier this evening around primary care clinic space and
[2:34:29] the fact that we don't have a lot of it.
[2:34:31] And if there was a doctor's office. That wanted to
[2:34:34] open up in fort Mooney, and it happened to be
[2:34:36] on the ground floor. I would certainly hope that we
[2:34:39] aren't discouraging them from doing that because we have to
[2:34:43] balance it out. I get. That I understand the intention
[2:34:46] of this and I support it for the most part,
[2:34:48] but I don't like the idea of restricting. Extended health
[2:34:52] services as a permitted use on ground level across the
[2:34:56] board. I think we need to be looking at encouraging
[2:34:59] it on the second floors, and we need to be
[2:35:01] really putting that out. To developers at the outset of
[2:35:05] these conversations when they are first coming to us so
[2:35:08] that they're designing these spaces. With the right. Sort of
[2:35:14] the right, I guess, buildable space for those services because
[2:35:18] we have a dearth. Of these in Port Mooney, so
[2:35:22] I don't want to be doing one that is going
[2:35:24] to in any way compromise the other. So. I have
[2:35:31] an issue with the word restricting it. I don't mind
[2:35:33] exploring it, but I really want to put it out
[2:35:35] there that we do not want to be. On the
[2:35:38] one hand, saying? We need primary clinic space. And then
[2:35:42] on the other hand, saying, let's respect, let's. Restrict it
[2:35:45] on the ground level. I just think we need to
[2:35:47] be careful. Okay? Yes, councilor. Thank you. And I totally
[2:35:53] understand that. And that is not the intent, and that's
[2:35:56] why if you read the rest of the sentence, I
[2:35:59] see it where upper stories exist or within limited areas,
[2:36:03] and it's really about signaling. Signaling at an early stage.
[2:36:07] These are the type of things that we want. And
[2:36:11] then. Just one other point that isn't in here, but.
[2:36:18] Is something that we've heard is that new commercial spaces,
[2:36:21] if we want restaurants and things. So new commercial spaces
[2:36:24] aren't being built. With ventilation built in. And so I
[2:36:30] think that's also something. That. Whether I'll leave it to
[2:36:34] Councilor Morrison and chairing the economic development Committee. Is that
[2:36:37] something that needs to be communicated because. The amount of
[2:36:42] money to retrofit and to add ventilation afterwards is astronomical.
[2:36:46] So we need to make sure that not only are
[2:36:49] we creating spaces, For doctor's office, and that's why it
[2:36:54] says extended health services, not primary health. For doctors to
[2:36:59] be in areas where we need them. But we also
[2:37:02] need to make sure that when we are building or
[2:37:04] when we're approving. Developments. We also need to make sure
[2:37:08] that the other requirements for other businesses like restaurants and
[2:37:11] food services are in there prior. To when the building
[2:37:16] is being built and not having to retroactively add them.
[2:37:18] Yeah, I think these are great conversations. I just wanted
[2:37:21] to put that out there. Around, sort of. The. Seeming
[2:37:27] contradiction, but, yeah, I do appreciate that, and I recognize
[2:37:31] that. This is intended for new buildings. Mainly in Toa
[2:37:36] and Tod area. And that we want to keep it
[2:37:40] at the forefront. And as something to be considered. So,
[2:37:45] seeing no other hands, I will call the question on
[2:37:48] this motion. All in favor? Opposed. Carrie. Thanks, everybody. Which
[2:37:53] brings us to verbal reports. Councilor Morrison thank you, mayor.
[2:38:00] I just wanted to say that. I was very honored
[2:38:03] to be able to. Stand. In place of you because
[2:38:08] you were not available on. This past weekend at the
[2:38:12] Jewish Culture Festival. It was a wonderful get together of
[2:38:17] our jewish community from across the tricities. They had wonderful
[2:38:22] music. Things for kids to do. Art being showcased and
[2:38:27] sold and jewelry being sold, including delicious food items. That
[2:38:32] one of my fellow counselors might mention that she picked
[2:38:34] up. I don't know. What it's called, but it looked
[2:38:36] delicious. Okay, a chocolate bobca. And I had councilor Knowles
[2:38:40] and councilor lubic there at. The event as well that
[2:38:43] day. So it was wonderful and a great opportunity and
[2:38:47] just a beautiful peaceful place to be at Rocky Point
[2:38:51] park, so thank you for allowing me to attend that
[2:38:54] one. Thank you for doing that. I will mention as
[2:38:59] well before our next regular council meeting, there is national
[2:39:03] indigenous Peoples day on Saturday, June 21. It's at Rocky
[2:39:08] Point park, and it starts at 01:00 p.m. everything kicks
[2:39:11] off at 01:00 p.m. so get there early. If you
[2:39:12] can, and it's about 2 hours long. Everything goes from
[2:39:16] one to three at the performance stage. I will try
[2:39:20] my best to be there for the beginning of it,
[2:39:22] but. I will be off as acting mayor to. The
[2:39:26] graduation ceremony for heritage woods. That happens at basically 02:00
[2:39:31] that same day. So I'll try to see if I
[2:39:33] can squeeze both in. But if I can't, please. Know
[2:39:36] that. I wish I could have been there, but I
[2:39:37] will be up at the heritage wood. Secondary graduation. And
[2:39:42] you will be there. So we're going to be able
[2:39:43] to get them both covered. But I just want to
[2:39:47] make sure that everybody knows that I wish I could
[2:39:49] do both, and. If I can. I'll try my best.
[2:39:51] All right. Thank you very much. Thank you, councilor. Councilor
[2:39:55] Dilworth. Following up on that same theme, I had the
[2:39:59] great pleasure. It's been the first time in a long
[2:40:01] time. As acting mayor, participate as a ceremonial review officer
[2:40:07] for the Port Moody Naval cadets and the mayor. Is
[2:40:11] aware. Going to air cadet reviews. And navy cadet reviews.
[2:40:18] It is really cool. And I have to acknowledge that
[2:40:22] this was the 60th anniversary of grills. I can't remember
[2:40:25] the number of Port Moody's cadet group that they have.
[2:40:30] They have one of the largest. Groups in the province.
[2:40:33] There was over 120 cadets participating in events this Sunday.
[2:40:38] They also have a phenomenal band that came second. In
[2:40:44] provincial competitions, and it was just so inspiring. We had
[2:40:49] the larger walkouts, we had the bands, and then we
[2:40:51] had the opportunity. To speak to the cadets in smaller
[2:40:55] groups where they were working as working groups on flags,
[2:41:01] on first aid on the history. And I'm one year
[2:41:07] older than the cadets are. That was pointed out to
[2:41:11] me. I know. Go figure. It was just a tremendous
[2:41:17] celebration for those kids who've put a full year into.
[2:41:22] Committing to military training, committing to personal growth, committing to
[2:41:27] new friendships that they made so mayor in future years.
[2:41:31] If you're busy, I will always take up the opportunity
[2:41:34] to attend and pretend. I know what I'm doing when
[2:41:37] I'm walking around inspecting all of nodding nice. Shoes. My
[2:41:43] second item I want to report out on is the
[2:41:46] fact that councilors knows Morrison Lobeki. And myself, we all
[2:41:50] attended the Federation of Canadian Municipalities recently in Ottawa. These
[2:41:58] are great opportunities for learning. And networking and having the
[2:42:02] opportunity to talk to our federal leaders and other local
[2:42:07] leaders from across Canada. I want to talk about two
[2:42:10] tours that they had. One of the tours that I
[2:42:12] attended. Was on the Byward market, and this is like
[2:42:15] a massive Granville island market type, and. It is intentional
[2:42:22] place making, as Councilor Agtrap referred to earlier. And it's
[2:42:26] a fusion of. Hospitality, restaurants, pubs. A tremendous art
[2:42:36] component with. Little galleries, a lot of pop up for
[2:42:41] artists in small storage containers throughout and the market. Is
[2:42:46] based on a grid where streets going one way or
[2:42:48] pedestrian and all the other streets going the other way
[2:42:51] are for vehicular traffic. There's also the opportunity to open
[2:42:55] up. An entire block, and they do it pretty regularly
[2:42:59] on weekends for any community group to come and host
[2:43:02] a celebration. We had the experience of having one of
[2:43:06] the largest Schwarma festivals I've ever experienced in my life
[2:43:10] taking place right in front of our hotel. It was
[2:43:12] 8 hours long. It was very loud, but. It was
[2:43:17] just teeming with people that were out enjoying the weather
[2:43:19] and enjoying the market. I took a lot of pictures
[2:43:23] only because. I loved how they used pop up opportunities.
[2:43:27] Such as? These small storage containers that artists could use
[2:43:31] once a month or once every two months. Some of
[2:43:34] the art installations. The advertisement or the promotion of who's
[2:43:38] in the market and what's taking place. It was just
[2:43:40] phenomenal. They also had a tour on the Ottawa hub,
[2:43:45] which is the innovation center. I didn't. Go on the
[2:43:48] tour this time, and I have gone on it previously,
[2:43:51] and I came back to council with a PowerPoint presentation
[2:43:54] for council and for the economic development committee, and I
[2:43:56] might dig that out. The innovation center is very much
[2:44:02] a vibrant space to support new small businesses. Technology they
[2:44:07] had a film studio in there. They had a radio
[2:44:09] studio in there. They have innovative technology around agriculture in
[2:44:15] there. It was just a huge welcome spot for people
[2:44:18] in the community. To come and get advice, to come
[2:44:21] and get mentorship or to actually. Have access to space
[2:44:26] and technology to help advance. Their concepts and their business
[2:44:30] plans, and maybe I will grab that out again. And
[2:44:33] these are just two really great outcomes from FCM. I
[2:44:36] know. I think all of us have posted something on
[2:44:38] social media about our takeaways from the event. I just
[2:44:42] wanted to share those at this time. And I'm hoping
[2:44:46] someone else who might be speaking next might talk about
[2:44:48] the children's. Art festival taking place out in the Galleria.
[2:44:51] Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Councilor Knowles. I wasn't going
[2:44:57] to speak about the children's art festival, but I will
[2:44:59] because. I actually already posted about it on my council
[2:45:01] page a couple of days ago. It is running until
[2:45:04] June 12. So another couple of days. Is art made
[2:45:10] by all the students of I think her name is
[2:45:11] Avelia Spinoza. If I remember correctly. So I apologize. I've
[2:45:19] forgotten that name wrong. But yes, do come and see.
[2:45:21] There's. So many fun and whimsical things. You can tell
[2:45:24] there are certain themes. So looking at how different students.
[2:45:28] Have approached doing lemons and limes versus cats versus a
[2:45:31] bunch of other things. It's. Really wonderful. So it's also
[2:45:35] cool and air conditioned in the galleria. So I recommend
[2:45:39] it as a fun thing to do. I was actually
[2:45:41] going to speak to quickly. The art shuffle. It's taking
[2:45:45] place on June 20. I thought someone else would have
[2:45:48] mentioned it, but. This is an annual event that we
[2:45:51] have. Where? A lot of our businesses throughout the city,
[2:45:56] and particularly along St. John's, participate in kind of an
[2:45:58] open evening where you can go in and look at
[2:46:00] the art and perhaps buy as well, and it's a
[2:46:04] great event for community, and again, This is something that
[2:46:09] doesn't happen in a lot of other communities. This is
[2:46:12] very special and unique to port Modi as the city
[2:46:15] of the arts and. I highly recommend it. And you
[2:46:18] know what? I did, like, half of my Christmas shopping
[2:46:21] last year at this. It's just great opportunity. To buy
[2:46:24] some local art that you can't buy anywhere else. That's
[2:46:26] it for me. Thank you. Thank you, councilor. Yeah, I
[2:46:30] was going to mention, to remind everybody, remind the community
[2:46:33] about the art shuffle, so thank you for that. I
[2:46:36] have a couple of things. To report on. It's been
[2:46:40] a really busy last few weeks. I. Wanted to just
[2:46:47] share a couple of highlights. I got to attend the
[2:46:50] girl guys of Canada youth. Achievement awards here in the
[2:46:52] theater. And that's another one I know. Councilor Dilworth. Likes
[2:46:56] to attend. I had the honor of being their guest
[2:47:00] speaker. And it was very near and dear to me,
[2:47:04] but it was amazing. To hear about all these young
[2:47:08] women. And their achievements and all of their accomplishments. They
[2:47:13] received the highest award. That a youth member of girl
[2:47:17] guys in Canada can achieve and. It was really a
[2:47:21] wonderful event. Also got to attend the arrogant ceremonial review
[2:47:27] for the 754 Phoenix. Which I'm not going to. Go
[2:47:32] on at great length. But similar to councilor Dillworth's experience,
[2:47:38] It was really a wonderful event, and it was so
[2:47:41] lovely. To see all of these youth. It was a
[2:47:45] very large group, I think over 120 air cadets. At
[2:47:51] this event and some really phenomenal skills that they shared.
[2:47:57] So there was that. We also had the first CPKC
[2:48:01] Rail community advisory panel meeting. I think that was that
[2:48:06] last week. Which I think. We've been a long time
[2:48:12] in the making, and I was really pleased we had
[2:48:14] representatives. There from pct. From IOCo refinery as well as
[2:48:20] CPKC, the superintendent as well as their representative. Their national
[2:48:28] representative. So I think that that meeting was quite productive.
[2:48:33] And thinking that once the minutes come out, we can
[2:48:36] share them with council. I had the pleasure of going
[2:48:41] to the belong center. Indoor skate park yesterday. And. This
[2:48:49] is something. That. Has. I'm not sure if everyone's familiar
[2:48:54] with the location, but it is the location. Where? Right
[2:48:57] next to a and w. Where the old pub used
[2:49:01] to be, and it's the largest indoor skate facility in
[2:49:06] the lower mainland. It is destined to be that, apparently.
[2:49:12] The next closest one. There's only two other ones. And.
[2:49:16] Are half the size. So they have some great ambitions
[2:49:19] about how to utilize that space because. It's going to
[2:49:22] take a combination of different revenue streams to keep it
[2:49:26] afloat. But I was really impressed with their passion. And
[2:49:31] encourage counselors. Like if you're walking through that part of
[2:49:34] town, if you're, walking down the street and you see
[2:49:36] the door open. Go on in. They welcome members of
[2:49:40] the community to come in and have a look at
[2:49:41] what they're doing, and I think that they are hoping
[2:49:45] to be up and running. In the next little while,
[2:49:48] so they're working with staff on that. With all that
[2:49:52] said, I have a notice of motion. Sorry, folks. And
[2:49:56] I will just read it. Off, and I will provide
[2:49:57] it to staff. And the motion is as follows. Whereas
[2:50:01] the city of Port Moody holds the lease for the
[2:50:04] intertitle mud flats and foreshore of the public. Harbor in
[2:50:07] the eastern end of broad inlet from the port of
[2:50:10] Vancouver. For 60 years with the option to extend and
[2:50:14] whereas the entered title these intertidal mud flats are an
[2:50:17] important estuaran habitat for salmonids, migratory and overwintering waterfowl and
[2:50:23] shorebirds, providing a much needed nutrient rich biofilm as well
[2:50:27] as resting and nesting. Habitat. And whereas the ecological benefits
[2:50:31] on. The site also provide a high carbon sequestration capacity
[2:50:35] as well as opportunities for research and protection. I'm almost
[2:50:39] there. And whereas there are no other urban marine protected
[2:50:42] areas within municipal boundaries in North America. Therefore, be it
[2:50:47] resolved at the City of Port Moody designate these intertidal
[2:50:50] flats in foreshore lands as an urban marine protected area.
[2:50:55] And further apply for UNESCO urban marine protected area status.
[2:51:00] So that's my motion, which will come to the next
[2:51:02] council meeting. And I will go to staff. Does staff
[2:51:06] have any reports? No reports from staff. Which brings us.
[2:51:12] To public input. At last, public input. I'm going to
[2:51:17] read again the disclaimer in case anybody wants to speak
[2:51:21] to us. I see Mr. Coomsley's online, so I see
[2:51:25] his hand up. Okay. As a reminder to members of
[2:51:27] the public. While we encourage civic engagement and welcome your
[2:51:30] participation in the public, portion of our meeting. There are
[2:51:33] expectations regarding appropriate conduct in decorum at council meetings. We
[2:51:37] ask all members of the public to ensure that matters
[2:51:39] raised with council are constructively focused on issues and not
[2:51:42] individuals and that any engagement with or about city staff
[2:51:46] or council is addressed in a manner that is consistent
[2:51:49] with these expectations so that we can all engage in
[2:51:51] this space in a manner that. Is respectful and constructive
[2:51:55] and abides by the city's respectful communication policy and respectful
[2:51:59] workplace. Policy. Having said that, we will go into public
[2:52:03] input. And I see we have Mr. Coonsley. Online with
[2:52:07] his hand up. Thank you for being so patient. I
[2:52:09] know this has been a long meeting. You have two
[2:52:12] minutes, Mr. Coonsley. Please state your name in city of
[2:52:14] residence for the. Record. Yeah. Mark Kunzley Pormody. Just allow
[2:52:18] to say great meeting. I made the comment. When I
[2:52:21] haven't felt it reflected the city. Well, I thought everybody
[2:52:23] did a great job. To lay a lot of good
[2:52:24] business. I just wanted to provide a couple of closing
[2:52:26] thoughts on. The town hall. I've always thought the town
[2:52:29] hall is where residents can get feedback directly. And ask
[2:52:32] questions and get answers of their elected officials. I appreciate
[2:52:36] that other formats may work, but they got slick more
[2:52:38] of it. I do think that after Covid. We've all
[2:52:41] got accustomed to doing things online, but I do feel
[2:52:44] like face to face. There is things that come out
[2:52:47] of that that are more beneficial. And with respect to
[2:52:51] cost and timing. As a resident. I don't want to
[2:52:55] see the tailwag and the dog here. I think it's
[2:52:57] really important to have this. Just to delineate a public
[2:53:01] hearing. I don't see that as a town hall. Or
[2:53:05] fulfill the same purpose because statements are written ahead of
[2:53:07] time. There's no back and forth. And then the public
[2:53:14] input. It's not a Q and A. Through the comment
[2:53:18] about the same people saying the same things. I get
[2:53:21] that, but maybe it's because they're not getting a response,
[2:53:24] and so. I would like to see maybe potentially opening
[2:53:26] up this public input to a q and a. And
[2:53:29] to councilor Lubrick's point about connecting input to the OCP,
[2:53:33] maybe that's a way to do it is if I
[2:53:36] can ask questions, get answers, then okay, now we can
[2:53:40] see how it all connects. So. Yeah, I really like
[2:53:44] the discussion. Looking forward to participating in the town hall,
[2:53:46] and. Thanks. Thank you. All right. Is there anybody else
[2:53:51] that wishes to provide input to council? I'll call a
[2:53:58] second time. Is there anybody that wishes to provide input
[2:54:01] to council?