1 00:00:29,015 --> 00:00:34,065 Today is October 13th, 2026. This is the Port of Kennewick Regular Commission business 2 00:00:34,065 --> 00:00:39,005 meeting. And I'd like to call this meeting of the Port of Kennewick Regular Commission 3 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:45,083 meeting on October 13th to order at 2 p.m. And I'd like to thank everybody for joining 4 00:00:45,083 --> 00:00:49,091 us today. Before we begin our meeting, I have a few procedural items to go over. 5 00:00:50,036 --> 00:00:53,055 The Port of Kennewick Commission chambers are open to the public during commission 6 00:00:53,055 --> 00:00:58,009 meetings. The port provides telephone, video access, and in-person options for the 7 00:00:58,009 --> 00:01:03,066 public. Commissioners are in person today, but some of the poor team will be attending 8 00:01:03,066 --> 00:01:08,014 remotely and some are currently in the room. Often people attend remotely and we 9 00:01:08,014 --> 00:01:11,005 appreciate your patience and understanding as we work our way through the meeting. 10 00:01:12,003 --> 00:01:15,098 If you're participating remotely, please make sure that you're accessing the meeting 11 00:01:15,098 --> 00:01:21,046 with only one device to reduce audio feedback, and please mute your microphone unless 12 00:01:21,046 --> 00:01:25,079 you're speaking. The agenda for this meeting may be viewed on our website if you'd 13 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:30,095 like to follow along. We'll also be using the share my screen feature today. There 14 00:01:30,095 --> 00:01:34,035 will be an opportunity for public comment at the beginning and at the end of the 15 00:01:34,035 --> 00:01:39,044 meeting. In addition, public comments will be received on each item if the commission 16 00:01:39,044 --> 00:01:43,079 may take action. When it's time for public comment, it may be difficult to determine 17 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:49,012 who is speaking if multiple people try at one time. So please be patient and respectful. 18 00:01:49,075 --> 00:01:53,079 Then again, as a friendly reminder, please mute your microphone unless you're speaking. 19 00:01:54,092 --> 00:01:59,051 To verify who's participating in today's meeting, I'd like to take roll call. I'll 20 00:01:59,051 --> 00:02:07,035 start with commissioners. I'm Commissioner Skip Novakovich. Mr. Present. Tim Arnson 21 00:02:07,051 --> 00:02:12,018 present and now I'd like to ask the port staff that's in the room to introduce themselves 22 00:02:12,018 --> 00:02:19,049 and their position, Lisa. Lisa Shoemaker, special projects coordinator. Uh, good 23 00:02:19,049 --> 00:02:24,096 afternoon, Nick Quaker. I'm the deputy CEO of the board. Thank you. Tammy Story, 24 00:02:25,005 --> 00:02:32,068 the CPA CFA CF CFP and um advisor. Hello, Mike Biny, director of operations. 25 00:02:32,097 --> 00:02:37,004 Rochelle Olson, director of governmental relations. Amber Handshay, director of real 26 00:02:37,004 --> 00:02:38,000 estate. 27 00:02:40,011 --> 00:02:44,098 That's it, I guess you already introduced. We got him. How about, um, who's online? 28 00:02:45,011 --> 00:02:47,082 Any staff online to introduce themselves, Bridget? 29 00:02:50,049 --> 00:02:54,091 Thank you, Commissioner. You're Bridget Scott, executive assistant. David, you have 30 00:02:54,091 --> 00:03:01,079 a couple other employees on the line. Hello David Puna, marketing and capital projects 31 00:03:01,079 --> 00:03:05,032 coordinator. Thank you, David. Who else is online this is now? 32 00:03:08,001 --> 00:03:13,012 Carolyn Lake at council. Thank you, Carolyn. I was gonna introduce you one more. 33 00:03:13,021 --> 00:03:13,071 Who is? 34 00:03:16,042 --> 00:03:21,098 Feline Go senior accountant. There we go. Great, thank you. Thank you all. Well, 35 00:03:22,003 --> 00:03:27,043 we'll go back to the agenda and could all rise for the pledge of allegiance, please. 36 00:03:27,051 --> 00:03:29,069 I'd like to ask my fellow commissioner to lead us. 37 00:03:31,095 --> 00:03:37,038 To pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 38 00:03:37,038 --> 00:03:43,023 for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for 39 00:03:43,023 --> 00:03:44,085 all. Thank you. 40 00:03:48,001 --> 00:03:55,073 And before we go on, I've got um a little trivia question. How many new jobs approximately 41 00:03:55,073 --> 00:04:00,095 were created in the Ports Finley area from 1952 to 1964? 42 00:04:05,047 --> 00:04:07,054 Anybody wanna take a wild guess? 43 00:04:10,024 --> 00:04:18,007 Nobody? 1000. 1000. OK, there's a guess. Not quite, but anyway. Anybody else? 999. 44 00:04:19,047 --> 00:04:21,009 This is not the Price is right. 45 00:04:23,011 --> 00:04:30,066 Teresa, you wanna take a guess? Huh, I don't know. Well, OK, there was 250 approximately. 46 00:04:30,098 --> 00:04:36,022 You should have spoken up. You should have. I said 203. Uh, you were close. All right, 47 00:04:36,038 --> 00:04:39,085 so now we're at our first session of public comment. It's an opportunity for any 48 00:04:39,085 --> 00:04:43,017 of the public to address the commission on anything on the agenda or anything you'd 49 00:04:43,017 --> 00:04:47,033 like to make us aware of. We just ask that you state your name, city of residence 50 00:04:47,033 --> 00:04:50,085 for the record, and limit your comments to 3 minutes. Would anyone like to make a 51 00:04:50,085 --> 00:04:52,003 public comment at this time? 52 00:04:55,043 --> 00:05:00,024 I don't see anybody online or in the room, so we'll move on to the consent agenda. 53 00:05:00,035 --> 00:05:04,022 These are items considered of a routine nature taken by one vote of the commission. 54 00:05:04,052 --> 00:05:08,033 Any item can be removed, placed further on down the agenda, or tabled for another 55 00:05:08,035 --> 00:05:12,095 meeting. Do we need to remove any item from the consent agenda? Uh, Commissioner 56 00:05:12,095 --> 00:05:19,000 Alvakovic, I motion to approve the consent agenda from October 13, 2027 as presented, 57 00:05:19,003 --> 00:05:24,028 I mean 2026. Thank you, I'm time traveling. Thank you. I'll, I'll second that motion. 58 00:05:24,005 --> 00:05:28,005 All those in favor of approving all items on the consent agenda signified by saying 59 00:05:28,005 --> 00:05:34,077 aye. Aye. Those opposed say no. The consent agenda is approved unanimously. Our next 60 00:05:34,077 --> 00:05:40,075 item is presentation WPP environmental seminar, Tim. Yes, thank you, commission. 61 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,047 Uh, we have some pictures. What I would like to do is just give the overview of this 62 00:05:46,047 --> 00:05:52,055 and then I see I have Ms. Lake and uh Commissioner Novakovich joining me in the presentation. 63 00:05:52,068 --> 00:05:57,043 So, I'll just kind of give the brief flyover and then I would like to turn it over 64 00:05:57,043 --> 00:06:01,005 maybe to Commissioner Novakovich to offer your comments and then perhaps Ms. Lake. 65 00:06:01,092 --> 00:06:06,075 And then if there's any follow-up, I'd be happy to jump back in. But this was the 66 00:06:06,075 --> 00:06:12,027 Washington Public Ports Association environmental seminar, and as you can see from 67 00:06:12,027 --> 00:06:17,074 the slide that's on the screen, it was on September 24th of this year. And we were 68 00:06:17,074 --> 00:06:25,058 asked to address the group. There's probably 250 people in attendance. Many of them 69 00:06:25,058 --> 00:06:31,065 were either attorneys or environmental employees of various port districts, consultants, 70 00:06:31,067 --> 00:06:37,062 and so forth, and they had an interest in many of the environmental and scientific 71 00:06:38,013 --> 00:06:43,074 activities that ports are going through. And uh while they had another presenter 72 00:06:43,074 --> 00:06:50,018 that talked about PFOS, which is the topic we talked about, much of the presentation 73 00:06:50,018 --> 00:06:55,005 that the prior presenter talked about was PFOS. These are what are known as forever 74 00:06:55,005 --> 00:07:01,001 chemicals, PFOS and drinking water, because that has been a hot topic across the 75 00:07:01,001 --> 00:07:06,009 country. But we were one of the first jurisdictions to have the honor of dealing 76 00:07:06,009 --> 00:07:12,042 with PFOS in soil. It is a very new activity that is just being regulated by the 77 00:07:12,042 --> 00:07:17,034 Environmental Protection Agency at the federal level and Department of Ecology at 78 00:07:17,034 --> 00:07:24,011 the Washington state level. So we were one of the first few that um had the opportunity 79 00:07:24,011 --> 00:07:30,047 to deal with PFOS in soil, and as far as I can tell, we are, if not the first out, 80 00:07:30,008 --> 00:07:36,031 we are one of the first out of the process, you know, we got in with uh some of the 81 00:07:36,031 --> 00:07:40,047 others, we were able to conclude our activities in about a year time frame, which 82 00:07:40,047 --> 00:07:45,047 is very quick for this. And I think the reason why we were asked to participate is 83 00:07:45,047 --> 00:07:50,038 that we did have an exit strategy, and that's kind of the key. In environmental matters 84 00:07:50,038 --> 00:07:56,056 is finding the exit strategy. Sometimes that takes, uh, not only years but decades. 85 00:07:56,083 --> 00:08:02,082 So this was a great opportunity for us to share our observations with the, uh, group 86 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:07,005 of people there. I felt that, um, our panel did very well. You can see we had Commissioner 87 00:08:07,005 --> 00:08:14,077 Novakovich that was the opener, uh. Then we had myself, Carolyn Lake, the port legal 88 00:08:14,077 --> 00:08:19,081 counsel. Then right next to Carolyn, you see John McCorkel. He is the principal for 89 00:08:19,081 --> 00:08:25,003 the Landau firm that did the um environmental work for us. And then on the far end, 90 00:08:25,006 --> 00:08:30,047 we had Richard Dubay, who's a An attorney that started his practice with the federal 91 00:08:30,077 --> 00:08:36,000 EPA and then did a lot of environmental law at a large firm in Seattle. We brought 92 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,068 Richard on board to provide expertise throughout the process. So again, I felt we 93 00:08:41,068 --> 00:08:47,073 had a really tight presentation. We had a lot of audience engagement afterwards. 94 00:08:47,078 --> 00:08:52,086 We had a lot of questions related to our presentation, so I felt it was a great opportunity. 95 00:08:53,018 --> 00:08:58,069 I do feel sorry for Commissioner Novakovich, however, because he had to ride over 96 00:08:58,069 --> 00:09:03,068 to Seattle with me. That's 4.5 hours away. I do it. He had to hear all my stories. 97 00:09:04,018 --> 00:09:08,008 Then we went down to Tacoma for other business. He had to hear those stories all 98 00:09:08,001 --> 00:09:12,097 over again. So you should get the Survivor Award, Novakovich. It was entertaining. 99 00:09:14,049 --> 00:09:18,051 Thank you, Tim. Carolyn, anything to, to add or comments? 100 00:09:24,003 --> 00:09:29,069 The only thing I'd add is that this picture really doesn't tell the story because 101 00:09:29,069 --> 00:09:36,009 I remember when we were on the panel, everyone was smiling and laughing. We had a 102 00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:41,006 great time doing it and I think because it just it was, it was a Good memory to look 103 00:09:41,006 --> 00:09:47,017 back on for all of us and a good memory to share with the audience about how everyone 104 00:09:47,017 --> 00:09:51,036 worked together as a team and that really was kind of the theme of the day that the 105 00:09:51,036 --> 00:09:56,084 teamwork and the respect shown amongst all the members of the team was really what 106 00:09:56,086 --> 00:10:04,074 um what made it a successful process, um, let alone the outcome. Um, and I 107 00:10:04,074 --> 00:10:08,094 was also really happy that we had tons of questions afterwards from the audience, 108 00:10:08,099 --> 00:10:13,022 and usually your presentation is boring. They just want to get out of there, but 109 00:10:13,055 --> 00:10:18,074 there were quite a few questions from the audience in general and then people randomly 110 00:10:18,074 --> 00:10:24,078 after the presentation. So, um, just can't say enough about what a great job the 111 00:10:24,078 --> 00:10:29,014 members of the panel did. So I was happy to be a part of it. Thank you. Thank you, 112 00:10:29,027 --> 00:10:33,018 Carolyn. We're glad you were there too. And I would just add that it was a great 113 00:10:33,018 --> 00:10:37,062 presentation. The, the panel, the people that put together the team that handled 114 00:10:37,062 --> 00:10:43,000 the PFOS did, did amazing and as Tim said, there was maybe 250 people there or so. 115 00:10:43,047 --> 00:10:48,067 And I heard a lot of comments. I, I think perhaps this was the finest panel that 116 00:10:48,067 --> 00:10:53,041 they had for this, for this seminar. So it was great. So thank you all for doing 117 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:57,009 this. Um, thank you to the team. Carolyn and Tim, you're here, so thank you very 118 00:10:57,092 --> 00:11:01,095 much for, for your job and what you did because I think it was excellent and I was 119 00:11:01,095 --> 00:11:08,048 proud to be a member of this team. So thank you. Tim, anything else to add? No, I 120 00:11:08,048 --> 00:11:14,006 think you, uh, you and Carolyn have, uh, summed it up very well. And again, um, you 121 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:19,023 know, the guidance from the Port commission was to be transparent throughout the 122 00:11:19,023 --> 00:11:23,097 process. We had a lot of meetings with the people that have bought, uh, ground from 123 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:27,041 us in Vista Field. They were concerned, even if it wasn't found on their property, 124 00:11:27,043 --> 00:11:32,038 they were concerned with the process. Uh, we interface with the media quite well. 125 00:11:32,044 --> 00:11:37,094 And again, this is a, uh, kind of a Pat on the back to the port commission because 126 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,069 you know the guidance that you gave me was to be. Thorough with the process, but 127 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:47,094 to make sure that transparency was at the top of our list. So, thank you for that. 128 00:11:48,026 --> 00:11:54,064 And then here's a picture of um myself at the luncheon that is uh Director Six Killer. 129 00:11:54,066 --> 00:12:00,041 He is the uh head of Department of Ecology. And after his luncheon presentation, 130 00:12:00,043 --> 00:12:07,006 I was able to publicly thank him. Because he gave a little bit of nudge to his agency 131 00:12:07,006 --> 00:12:11,051 to kind of conclude things because they recognized we had all of our paperwork in, 132 00:12:11,009 --> 00:12:15,009 and that we wanted to get back to selling property and get things, you know, on the 133 00:12:15,009 --> 00:12:20,045 tax roll and so forth. So, Director Six Killer did a nice job of kind of helping 134 00:12:20,045 --> 00:12:25,041 us get across the finish line. We did make a little bit of a wager there. I'm a Ducks 135 00:12:25,041 --> 00:12:30,033 fan and he's a Huskies fan. So we've got a little bit of, uh, wager, not financial, 136 00:12:30,046 --> 00:12:35,053 but it will be maybe some level of public service or public humiliation based on 137 00:12:35,053 --> 00:12:38,097 who wins the Ducks or the Huskies. Right now, I'm thinking I might have to figure 138 00:12:38,097 --> 00:12:43,022 out what I gotta, I gotta do for him the way the Ducks have been playing. And didn't 139 00:12:43,022 --> 00:12:48,054 you invite him to come visit us? And yeah, we, we did. I invited him publicly to 140 00:12:48,054 --> 00:12:52,093 come join us to see the joint success we've got. So we'll see if we can get that 141 00:12:53,014 --> 00:12:57,002 worked out. But I will tell you this, that Director Six Killer is a very fun guy, 142 00:12:57,039 --> 00:13:02,082 and he wants to bring a practical approach to the Department of Ecology. So this 143 00:13:02,082 --> 00:13:07,001 was a really good opportunity for him to see how we worked closely with his agency. 144 00:13:07,094 --> 00:13:12,076 Yep, good job and thank you. All right, we'll move on then to Vistafield blue chart 145 00:13:12,076 --> 00:13:19,002 meeting. Amber? Yes, thank you, commissioners. So now that we have our PFOS, uh, 146 00:13:19,029 --> 00:13:25,044 pause in the rearview mirror, and, uh, just to follow up on our environmental seminar, 147 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:30,015 that was a twelve-month pause that we took. We took a, a pause on construction of 148 00:13:30,042 --> 00:13:37,034 some of our parking lots, so that, um, Uh, really was lightning speed and a record 149 00:13:37,054 --> 00:13:43,088 probably for any jurisdiction to get out of, um, that PFOS pause. So as we came out 150 00:13:43,094 --> 00:13:50,017 of, um, This period of time, we are now re-engaging with those builders and developers 151 00:13:50,027 --> 00:13:57,000 that took uh their time and their investment prior to that to work with us on a number 152 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:04,001 of projects in Vista Field. So, uh, prior to um putting on the pause, we had, um, 153 00:14:04,003 --> 00:14:11,087 contractual uh arrangements with Blue Chart. And Blue Chart is a uh partnership between 154 00:14:11,089 --> 00:14:17,048 uh Chartwell Land Company and Blue Fern Development to do this, uh, single-family 155 00:14:17,048 --> 00:14:23,044 home project just for Vista Field. Uh, they understand our urban concept of what 156 00:14:23,044 --> 00:14:28,071 we want to do that's different. Uh, they understood what the houses should look like. 157 00:14:29,005 --> 00:14:35,016 Uh, so they are, we are in an agreement with them to do, uh, several phases of single-family 158 00:14:35,016 --> 00:14:40,048 homes. And that would be attached or detached. So attached could be townhomes, maybe 159 00:14:40,048 --> 00:14:44,008 some townhomes sprinkled in there. Uh, we did this conceptual drawing, which I'm 160 00:14:44,008 --> 00:14:50,062 gonna speak to, um, A little bit early on, but at the end of September, we re-engaged 161 00:14:50,062 --> 00:14:56,086 with Blue Chart and met with them, uh, for a whole day of, uh, working because our 162 00:14:56,086 --> 00:15:03,018 next step is to come up with an approved development plan where both the port and 163 00:15:03,018 --> 00:15:08,088 Blue Chart agree on certain amenities, uh, that will come from the First phase. And 164 00:15:08,088 --> 00:15:14,056 if they do well on their first phase, and we like that, then they have uh takedown 165 00:15:14,056 --> 00:15:20,067 options for future phases. So, potentially 8 phases of um neighborhoods uh with, 166 00:15:20,085 --> 00:15:25,024 with homes sprinkled throughout. So actually, Bridget, if you could go back to the 167 00:15:25,024 --> 00:15:29,000 first one, there's a few things I wanted to share on that 1st, 1st slide. 168 00:15:34,052 --> 00:15:35,009 So the whole day. 169 00:15:37,048 --> 00:15:44,009 Like The whole day was. Spent on 3 key areas. 170 00:15:45,033 --> 00:15:52,039 This Wonerf, which is a quiet street, This part of the road is already constructed, 171 00:15:52,055 --> 00:15:57,039 so this would be an extension through that neighborhood. The second item that that 172 00:15:57,039 --> 00:16:02,047 we focused on a lot was this Half Moon Park, which is a public amenity. And then 173 00:16:02,047 --> 00:16:07,019 the third item that Blue Chart felt was very important was this um entry right off 174 00:16:07,019 --> 00:16:13,051 of Deschute. So this is Deschutes right here. So, um, the, the homes are very similar 175 00:16:13,064 --> 00:16:18,046 into what they're probably gonna do. This little area across will, will most likely 176 00:16:18,046 --> 00:16:24,059 be additional homes, but this Half Moon Park, uh, is an amenity. So the port has 177 00:16:24,061 --> 00:16:31,034 committed to the infrastructure. So putting in the roads, the little Half Moon Park, 178 00:16:31,007 --> 00:16:38,062 these roads, and delivering to them, uh, shovel-ready parcels. So they will pay us 179 00:16:38,062 --> 00:16:43,084 as they take down parcels and build homes, that's how we will recoup our investment. 180 00:16:44,075 --> 00:16:51,059 The distinct feature of the the quiet street here is that they really wanted a unique 181 00:16:51,059 --> 00:16:58,005 material. So we're coming in this as you have a, uh, you have a base price, right? 182 00:16:58,022 --> 00:17:04,093 In a custom home, you add on. Amenities or you add on nicer countertops or different 183 00:17:04,093 --> 00:17:11,048 carpet. So this is where our bases, if they want to come in and do a pavers or something 184 00:17:11,005 --> 00:17:17,001 like that, then their per parcel price will probably increase a little bit. Uh, this 185 00:17:17,001 --> 00:17:23,018 Half Moon Park is part of the amenities that we are committed to taking a portion 186 00:17:23,018 --> 00:17:29,034 of that, those dollars, uh, with each lot sale and putting it towards the amenities, 187 00:17:29,051 --> 00:17:34,056 towards those public spaces. We already have the pavilions. Uh, which is part of 188 00:17:34,056 --> 00:17:39,004 our public spaces. We have the great water feature, which is a, a public space, but 189 00:17:39,004 --> 00:17:43,034 for a neighborhood, uh, they wanted something where the neighbors could come in, 190 00:17:43,097 --> 00:17:48,082 throw a frisbee, or have a gathering area, or maybe part of this is where their, 191 00:17:49,009 --> 00:17:53,004 their mailbox cluster will be located, and then you might run into your neighbors 192 00:17:53,004 --> 00:17:58,003 at the mailbox cluster. So they're thinking about how you build community and how 193 00:17:58,003 --> 00:18:03,081 you congregate people together. So a lot of conversation was around potentially this 194 00:18:03,081 --> 00:18:10,076 is still drivable for um emergency, but maybe it's blocked off with bollards so that 195 00:18:10,076 --> 00:18:17,042 it really becomes walkable. And as you're working uh to spill out onto the, the pathway, 196 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:23,081 it almost becomes another amenity for that. Um, neighborhood, which they're trying 197 00:18:23,081 --> 00:18:28,004 to build community. You're, you know, getting out and you're exploring rather than 198 00:18:28,006 --> 00:18:31,057 just staying in your house and being in your backyard. You're spilling out into the 199 00:18:31,057 --> 00:18:37,073 front. Another aspect that was really important to Blue Chart is our manner of arrival. 200 00:18:37,094 --> 00:18:45,001 So, We have our Crosswind Boulevard manner of arrival, and that brings you into our 201 00:18:45,003 --> 00:18:50,084 more of our retail space and our restaurants and kind of our vibrancy core. This 202 00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:56,026 is, they're looking at a manner of arrival for the residential piece for that first 203 00:18:56,026 --> 00:19:00,054 neighborhood. Here's another way when you come through, you know, you've entered 204 00:19:00,054 --> 00:19:06,018 into kind of the residential area. Uh, so there was a lot of conversation about what 205 00:19:06,018 --> 00:19:12,096 will that look like. Uh, will it be something that has some, some more, um, plantains, 206 00:19:13,023 --> 00:19:17,005 maybe some unique use of our existing boulders that we have out there, which we have 207 00:19:17,005 --> 00:19:21,085 a lot of. We have a lot of boulders out there, that might be some landscape feature. 208 00:19:22,023 --> 00:19:27,026 So, uh, there was a lot of conversation on how this can look for coming into Vista 209 00:19:27,026 --> 00:19:34,006 Field. So those three. Ideas, those three concepts is what we need to agree on as 210 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:39,008 part of our approved, approved development plan, which is that next step. So, as 211 00:19:39,008 --> 00:19:43,036 a real estate person, I'm pushing that process because we want to get to the next 212 00:19:43,036 --> 00:19:48,056 step and the next step. So, uh, a lot of great work was done. They were in a room 213 00:19:48,056 --> 00:19:56,006 from 8:30 to 2 all day, just kind of re-engaging, um, but coming up with some definitive 214 00:19:56,006 --> 00:20:03,084 decisions because this is something that we need to produce and Larry needs to go 215 00:20:03,084 --> 00:20:07,072 out to bid and get all those infrastructure costs, get it in front of you for your 216 00:20:07,072 --> 00:20:12,006 approval. Uh, and they want to go through a plot process. We have a binding site 217 00:20:12,006 --> 00:20:17,039 plot process, so is OK with the city, but they want to go through the plot process. 218 00:20:17,048 --> 00:20:22,006 So we need to get those ducks in a row. So there's lots of parallel lines that we're 219 00:20:22,006 --> 00:20:26,014 running here. But I just wanted to show everybody that these three areas is what 220 00:20:26,014 --> 00:20:31,026 we spent all day on and made them eat lunch and work at the same time. So, well, 221 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:38,016 this worked out really well. OK, Bridget, next, next couple slides. This is collaborative 222 00:20:38,016 --> 00:20:46,016 design in action, ta da. So, um, This is all of us around one table for 223 00:20:46,016 --> 00:20:50,004 most of the day, and let's see if you could go to the next slide, and then I'll introduce 224 00:20:50,004 --> 00:20:56,008 who all the players are. We had from the port, we had myself, Tim, Bridget, and Larry. 225 00:20:57,013 --> 00:21:02,088 And then from the, and then, uh, Matt Lambert is our Vistafield town architect. So 226 00:21:02,088 --> 00:21:08,085 it was crucial that Matt was there. He kept the momentum going and he would, uh, 227 00:21:09,036 --> 00:21:15,008 look for things from the course perspective and how to simplify. Uh, something that 228 00:21:15,008 --> 00:21:19,052 was fun is that he used a pen when he drew. He didn't use a pencil that could be 229 00:21:19,052 --> 00:21:25,019 erased, so he's very confident in, uh, his feedback that he was giving. And then 230 00:21:25,019 --> 00:21:30,007 here is Darren. He's with Parametrics. He's also on our team. He's our civil uh engineer. 231 00:21:30,016 --> 00:21:35,048 He worked with us on all those first improvements with um Vista Field on Crossroad 232 00:21:35,048 --> 00:21:41,051 Boulevard, the, uh, water feature. He's been with us for a very long time. And then 233 00:21:41,051 --> 00:21:48,047 from the blue chart team, this is Levi Holmes, and this is Brad Callover. Um, he 234 00:21:48,047 --> 00:21:53,023 is a landscape architect that is also on Levi's team. And he's the one who's giving 235 00:21:53,023 --> 00:21:58,023 some different perspective and ideas on what those spaces could look like. So it's, 236 00:21:58,032 --> 00:22:03,051 it's very interesting to have him there in an outside, uh, viewpoint. And then Lawrence 237 00:22:03,051 --> 00:22:09,047 Kumar, who has worked with the port quite a bit, um, on our charette process, and 238 00:22:09,047 --> 00:22:13,074 he's, he's a friend and he's familiar to us. He's actually on the Blue Chart team. 239 00:22:13,088 --> 00:22:19,002 So, uh, we know that there will be some continuity there between our master plan 240 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:23,075 and what Blue Chart is doing. Uh, next slide, I think Bridget's got one more. 241 00:22:27,075 --> 00:22:33,028 And then this is just another. Yup, another viewpoint of everybody sitting around 242 00:22:33,028 --> 00:22:38,026 the table, um, and we literally when, when Levi got there with all his big papers, 243 00:22:38,089 --> 00:22:43,033 we started because he was, he was wanting to get going and he's very serious about 244 00:22:43,033 --> 00:22:47,098 getting this all started for us. And then, uh, just another little note from Levi. 245 00:22:48,018 --> 00:22:53,018 He and his family were here on this weekend, uh, and they just wanted to experience 246 00:22:53,018 --> 00:22:59,013 the Tri-Cities. He's got 4 little kids and 1 on the way. So they went to Middleton's. 247 00:22:59,018 --> 00:23:03,051 I was texting him ideas and examples, and he said, oh yeah, we went up to Middleton's 248 00:23:03,051 --> 00:23:08,058 and then Uh, they, they spent a lot of time walking around Vista Fields, just being 249 00:23:08,058 --> 00:23:13,009 in the space, going over to Lawrence Scott Park. So, so they're serious, they're 250 00:23:13,009 --> 00:23:18,009 serious about continuing this project with us, but that's all I had. Tim, you got 251 00:23:18,009 --> 00:23:23,004 anything you wanna back line up? Well, let's see. Oh, there's my favorite slide, 252 00:23:23,082 --> 00:23:30,035 um, as Amber mentioned the guy in the white shirt is Lawrence Kamar, and we remember 253 00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:35,085 him. He's one of the DPZ disciples helped us with our Uh, Charette process helped 254 00:23:35,085 --> 00:23:41,001 us with our master plan. He's now on the other side of the table, figuratively and 255 00:23:41,001 --> 00:23:47,066 literally. And, um, Lawrence has got a lot of really fabulous ideas. The guy is a 256 00:23:47,066 --> 00:23:54,001 dreamer, he's a creator, and he comes up with a lot of really interesting attributes 257 00:23:54,001 --> 00:24:01,012 for a project, so I'm glad he's involved. But we were able to kind of Um, with Lawrence, 258 00:24:01,019 --> 00:24:04,003 you have to kind of give him some of the parameters. We have to talk a little bit 259 00:24:04,003 --> 00:24:07,099 about affordability and, you know, we tell him that there's time frames on things, 260 00:24:08,012 --> 00:24:11,006 but if you let him go, he'll keep designing. He'd still be down there if we let him 261 00:24:11,006 --> 00:24:16,019 go. But, uh, even though he's, he was on their payroll, we said we do have to wrap 262 00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:22,047 up at what, 2:30. So I wanted this picture of Lawrence, uh, actively drawing something 263 00:24:22,047 --> 00:24:27,027 very creative. So whatever we're able to bring back to you, commission. Hopefully, 264 00:24:27,031 --> 00:24:32,086 there will be a lot of creativity left in it, but we'll have to also put, um, you 265 00:24:32,086 --> 00:24:37,038 know, our, uh, pencils into it as far as the columns and the numbers to make sure 266 00:24:37,038 --> 00:24:41,026 that what we're gonna bring to you, we don't get you excited about, we'd love to 267 00:24:41,026 --> 00:24:45,006 have this, and we haven't done some rough math on it. So, what you're likely gonna 268 00:24:45,006 --> 00:24:51,071 see is something that has Lawrence's creativity into it, but a little bit of fiscal 269 00:24:51,071 --> 00:24:57,013 responsibility into it as well. And that was the benefit. Of this group because, 270 00:24:57,023 --> 00:25:02,022 you know, when we first started out in the morning, we were able to just throw out 271 00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:06,074 all of the ideas and then we kind of work some of them back. We, you know, like Amber 272 00:25:06,074 --> 00:25:12,017 brought in uh the concept of, OK, for the wounder if the narrow street. We could 273 00:25:12,017 --> 00:25:15,073 do some of these pavers, but we also have to have the alternative. Maybe we do the 274 00:25:15,073 --> 00:25:20,017 concrete, the stained concrete like we did in some of the other stuff that's already 275 00:25:20,017 --> 00:25:24,069 out there. So as we got working through it, we kind of dialed back some of the really 276 00:25:24,069 --> 00:25:30,052 nice to have things as we put some of the financial perspective on it. And what we've 277 00:25:30,052 --> 00:25:35,057 left it with is that our team is going to talk to their team now as we're going to 278 00:25:35,057 --> 00:25:39,076 crunch some numbers and then like I said, hopefully when we come back and show you 279 00:25:39,076 --> 00:25:44,067 something. We've at least got some order of magnitude to it number-wise, you know, 280 00:25:44,087 --> 00:25:48,027 because again, we don't want to show you something fantastic that we could just never 281 00:25:48,027 --> 00:25:55,095 pay for. But great process. And early on, I was, um, I don't want to say admonished, 282 00:25:56,006 --> 00:26:00,003 but I was advised by Amber and Larry that if I got to a place where I thought it 283 00:26:00,003 --> 00:26:04,067 was too boring, that I could go take a break. And I remember Bridget went out with 284 00:26:04,067 --> 00:26:08,051 me one time, we walked around a little bit. And they were quarreling over how wide 285 00:26:08,051 --> 00:26:13,027 a parking lane should be, 8 ft or 10 ft. And that's when Bridget and I decided, we'll 286 00:26:13,027 --> 00:26:17,035 just take a walk for a while, and then when we came back, they had it solved. And 287 00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:21,031 I don't know whether it was 8 or 10 or anything in between, and frankly, I don't 288 00:26:21,031 --> 00:26:27,021 care, but it got solved. Well, thank you, Amber, that was a, a wonderful presentation. 289 00:26:27,046 --> 00:26:33,008 Thank you for that a lot of information. A couple, maybe a few questions. Three improvements 290 00:26:33,008 --> 00:26:36,074 that they want us to make. Is there any ballpark idea what that's going to cost? 291 00:26:37,052 --> 00:26:43,035 You know, that was part of uh this process was identifying what it is, and then we 292 00:26:43,035 --> 00:26:48,011 need to put the numbers to it, uh, which is this next little piece of the puzzle, 293 00:26:48,028 --> 00:26:52,008 putting the numbers to it and then saying, OK, well, this is what it's gonna cost, 294 00:26:53,008 --> 00:26:58,009 and this is what we had agreed upon you paying. Uh, if you want all these things, 295 00:26:59,001 --> 00:27:02,076 then you're gonna have to pay more, you know, we're gonna have to increase the price 296 00:27:02,084 --> 00:27:06,021 of the parcel in order to have these amenities. If that's, if they're that important 297 00:27:06,021 --> 00:27:10,019 to you, then we need to make some adjust adjustments to price. So we don't have all 298 00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:16,033 the details quite yet on what those areas are gonna cost, but that's our next step 299 00:27:16,054 --> 00:27:21,061 is to put price to it. We need that for, um, construction of the improvements too, 300 00:27:21,007 --> 00:27:26,085 you know, we need to know what that is. So, would we have to finance those? Improve 301 00:27:26,085 --> 00:27:32,013 those 3 improvements upfront, or would they be buying lots first and then pay, that's 302 00:27:32,013 --> 00:27:36,012 how we would pay for the improvements. So we're providing them with shovel-ready 303 00:27:36,026 --> 00:27:42,021 parcels and those roads and those improvements. So it's almost like while we're doing 304 00:27:42,021 --> 00:27:47,093 our construction, they're gonna be pre-selling and then they have timelines, so we 305 00:27:47,093 --> 00:27:53,095 will have You know, we'll be paying bills and as they're taking down we'll have some 306 00:27:53,095 --> 00:27:58,061 upfront costs and then we'll be recovering those as they take down parcels. Perfect, 307 00:27:58,084 --> 00:28:01,054 yeah, perfect. commissioners, any questions, comments? 308 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:09,047 Thank you, Kim. Yeah, my understanding, and Nick is here to correct me, but my my 309 00:28:09,047 --> 00:28:13,023 understanding is that this is already in your budget. We've kind of put in the phase 310 00:28:13,023 --> 00:28:18,019 one in the budget. So again, we have to keep, make sure that we keep within the budget 311 00:28:18,045 --> 00:28:23,003 with this. So unless I'm mistaken, Nick, we've already put this in your budget, so 312 00:28:23,003 --> 00:28:27,031 the phase one would be funded. And then like I say, like Amber said, if they want 313 00:28:27,031 --> 00:28:32,015 to upgrade a little bit. And that goes above our budget, then we say, OK, let's negotiate 314 00:28:32,015 --> 00:28:36,023 up the lot price. So Nick, how did I do on that one? Yes, no, Tim is correct on that 315 00:28:36,023 --> 00:28:41,014 one. Great, thank you. Again, great job, great presentation. This is kind of exciting. 316 00:28:41,006 --> 00:28:45,011 Uh, we're finally getting closer to that, so I'd like to, I'd like to see that happen. 317 00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:51,043 That's awesome. OK, how about, uh, Nick, how about the draft budget workshop? Yep, 318 00:28:51,006 --> 00:28:58,007 just one second here. Perfect. They're gonna let me control. OK. What's that? What 319 00:28:58,007 --> 00:28:59,009 do you mean? Can I just collect that? 320 00:29:01,061 --> 00:29:06,099 OK, so it's October, and you're all thinking exactly what I am, right? What hockey 321 00:29:06,099 --> 00:29:12,074 season started and it's budget time. Budget is even more important than hockey season 322 00:29:12,074 --> 00:29:17,038 to me, believe it or not, but, um, it's always a difficult, um, process. It takes 323 00:29:17,038 --> 00:29:23,021 a lot of time. Um, the one thing I will say is say we're gonna review the 27-28 budget, 324 00:29:23,063 --> 00:29:27,003 and then we're gonna do all the legal, uh, publications over the next couple of weeks 325 00:29:27,003 --> 00:29:33,014 and bring it back on the 27th for final approval. Um There are no surprises in this 326 00:29:33,014 --> 00:29:38,054 budget. I want to get that out there. And um everything in here, it's taken staff 327 00:29:38,054 --> 00:29:42,014 a lot of time. It's basically everything we've heard from the commission in the current 328 00:29:42,014 --> 00:29:45,062 budget cycle about, you know, what, what needs to be in this one. So, direction we've 329 00:29:45,062 --> 00:29:51,026 received from you guys um is what's in here. So there's no surprises. Um, the last 330 00:29:51,026 --> 00:29:57,019 thing, I know it sounds um cliche, but I do. This was a staff effort across the board, 331 00:29:57,041 --> 00:30:01,096 and I really mean that, and everybody, um, we've had probably more of this budget 332 00:30:01,096 --> 00:30:07,037 cycle than others, but um A lot of meetings that were um trying to get the right 333 00:30:07,037 --> 00:30:12,056 word, but, um, you know, we were looking at ways we could trim some expenses back. 334 00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:15,045 And that's always kind of one of those things that's hard for people to do because 335 00:30:15,045 --> 00:30:20,075 they've been doing the same thing for so long. Um, but everybody contributed, um, 336 00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:25,071 and it was a very successful process, although it was, um, stressful at times, right? 337 00:30:26,054 --> 00:30:31,013 Um, and then I also want to recognize Tammy. She's right next to me, and you, I don't 338 00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:36,037 know if everybody knows Tammy, but, uh, she's been here for longer than me. Um, her 339 00:30:36,037 --> 00:30:44,009 job titles have changed, and some we can't publicly talk about. But, uh, to me, she's 340 00:30:44,009 --> 00:30:49,093 my right hand in terms of very detail-oriented, and she did the legwork on the budget 341 00:30:49,093 --> 00:30:55,037 for the most part. Um, and to me, her, the name of her position is Director of Financial 342 00:30:55,037 --> 00:30:59,061 Reporting, which is a very important job for the port. So she helps with budgets 343 00:30:59,061 --> 00:31:06,048 and audits and things like that, and state audits when they come visit us. So, um, 344 00:31:07,001 --> 00:31:10,061 before we start, I think I should pass off to Tim and see if he has anything he would 345 00:31:10,061 --> 00:31:16,076 like to add. Well, just wanna say Nick hit it, you know, out of the park with this. 346 00:31:16,085 --> 00:31:22,007 It was quite a team effort. And again, you know, not to repeat too much what Nick 347 00:31:22,007 --> 00:31:27,081 said, but when we roll out the draft of the budget to the commission, there really 348 00:31:27,081 --> 00:31:32,000 should be no surprises because it's things that you've said, we've jotted down notes 349 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,081 throughout the year prior to this on things that the commission feels is important. 350 00:31:37,037 --> 00:31:43,016 Um, but it's always good that We shared the draft with you, so in case we've missed 351 00:31:43,016 --> 00:31:47,006 something completely, it's nice for you to catch it in the first draft rather than 352 00:31:47,032 --> 00:31:52,027 us getting this far along. But you know, and I said this earlier, I said it's a paradox 353 00:31:52,027 --> 00:31:56,047 because it might be one of your easiest budgets because you've already committed 354 00:31:56,073 --> 00:32:00,076 a lot of the funding. For example, blue chart phase one, there's a nice chunk of 355 00:32:00,076 --> 00:32:05,052 money. So in that sense, it was easier because there wasn't a lot of other discretionary 356 00:32:05,052 --> 00:32:09,058 funding to go around. But on the other side of the coin, it was more challenging 357 00:32:09,058 --> 00:32:14,086 because then you say with the scant resources we have left, how do we allocate that? 358 00:32:15,015 --> 00:32:18,007 I know you put some money in your opportunity fund for things that could come along 359 00:32:18,007 --> 00:32:24,026 that are either anticipated or unanticipated. So, it was really, like Nick says, 360 00:32:24,031 --> 00:32:28,054 it was a tough budget, but you have to look at it from, in a sense, it was easy because 361 00:32:28,054 --> 00:32:33,018 a lot of your big projects had already been defined. But then again, sometimes it's 362 00:32:33,018 --> 00:32:37,077 like when I go out on my property on a Saturday with an easy project, it turns into 363 00:32:37,091 --> 00:32:41,054 3 weeks, you know, I thought it'd be 15 minutes, but that's kind of how this budget 364 00:32:41,054 --> 00:32:45,001 was, even though you had some of the bigger items out of the way, then there was 365 00:32:45,003 --> 00:32:49,086 the jockeying of the other things, you know, perhaps your discretionary funds. But 366 00:32:49,086 --> 00:32:54,051 again, staff effort, I remember we had a lot of meetings at one point. You know, 367 00:32:54,064 --> 00:32:58,059 Tammy likes to project out what we might look like in a few years. I remember one 368 00:32:58,059 --> 00:33:02,007 day Larry thought that his job was going to be cut, so I had to take him down to 369 00:33:02,007 --> 00:33:05,055 Ice Harbor and buy him a sandwich and tell him that wasn't the case. And then as 370 00:33:05,055 --> 00:33:10,015 the budget cleared up a little bit, Larry became the happiest guy around, and I don't 371 00:33:10,015 --> 00:33:15,041 know how he Up with that, but sometimes, when you have planners and financial people 372 00:33:15,041 --> 00:33:20,032 talking, there's a little bit of a disconnect. But there was a lot of scary times 373 00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:25,041 in our staff negotiations. There's a lot of fruitful times, there was actually a 374 00:33:25,041 --> 00:33:30,049 lot of comical times. I got a couple of laughs along the way, but here we are, and 375 00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:34,087 I think it's a great budget. And I do appreciate Nick and Tammy and everybody else 376 00:33:34,087 --> 00:33:38,095 that cooperated, but I do have a grin on my face right now because I was remembering 377 00:33:38,095 --> 00:33:44,031 some of the stuff we had to get through to get to this point. So, after this presentation, 378 00:33:44,033 --> 00:33:50,013 commission, it's all yours, right? It's your budget, but we did have some fun with 379 00:33:50,013 --> 00:33:56,061 the process, and I hope you guys did too. Thanks Tim. Thanks, Tim. Reporting pyramid. 380 00:33:56,065 --> 00:34:01,016 We found this probably about 10 years ago and we really liked it. Um, and so really 381 00:34:01,016 --> 00:34:05,016 what it does is describes everyone's roles in the budgeting process. Uh, the leaderships 382 00:34:05,016 --> 00:34:09,028 of the elected officials are at the top of the pyramid. That means we give them summary 383 00:34:09,028 --> 00:34:14,016 level, um, information to work with, and they can make policy decisions and guide 384 00:34:14,016 --> 00:34:19,024 us. I'm at the bottom. Tammy's at the bottom. We're in every line by line. We're 385 00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:25,076 looking at insurance costs. Um, landscaping costs, very high level of detail. Tim's 386 00:34:25,076 --> 00:34:30,028 more in the green in the middle of the pyramid. Um, we try to pull him down to the 387 00:34:30,028 --> 00:34:33,092 lower part, but he doesn't like that. So we first stay a little bit higher up, higher 388 00:34:33,092 --> 00:34:39,019 level oversight of things. Um, but anyways, we found this to be very valuable, uh, 389 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:42,008 just kind of showing where people should be in their roles in the budgeting process. 390 00:34:44,025 --> 00:34:50,062 Um, economic data, we like to start with some economic data. I like that. Glad you 391 00:34:50,062 --> 00:34:56,078 came. So, this does affect the poor, believe it or not, and unemployment, I found 392 00:34:56,078 --> 00:35:01,034 it is interesting. Washington State unemployment went up and Benton County went down. 393 00:35:01,051 --> 00:35:04,009 And I'm not sure what the reason was, but I found that to be a very positive thing. 394 00:35:05,066 --> 00:35:10,041 Um, and we're more, uh, the national unemployment rate went down as well. So we're 395 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:14,077 more on track with the national unemployment rate than the state of Washington. So 396 00:35:14,077 --> 00:35:20,081 that's very positive for the poor. Inflation, and we all know this has been Really 397 00:35:20,081 --> 00:35:26,062 difficult to deal with in the last 5 years, um. And this is finally starting to stabilize, 398 00:35:26,067 --> 00:35:31,012 and this does directly affect the port. It really does. I mean, all of our projects, 399 00:35:31,048 --> 00:35:36,008 um, well, and in 2021, I think was the only year. Since I've been here and Amber 400 00:35:36,008 --> 00:35:41,088 and I've been here 13 years that we actually considered doing a cost of living salary 401 00:35:41,088 --> 00:35:48,001 adjustment mid-year because I mean, the same bag of groceries was almost double the 402 00:35:48,001 --> 00:35:53,021 price. Um, so, 2021, 2022, massive inflation and it's kind of leveled out a little 403 00:35:53,021 --> 00:35:55,037 bit. So that'll really be advantageous to the port. 404 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,007 Any good budget starts with the question of where are we now? And this is where we're 405 00:36:02,007 --> 00:36:08,003 at now. We have about $11 million in cash, which is about standard for every other 406 00:36:08,003 --> 00:36:14,026 budget cycle. The second one, our original $5 million loan, we owe about $2.8 million 407 00:36:14,036 --> 00:36:21,002 on that loan. Um, the thing I love about this is our interest rate is 3.45%. 408 00:36:22,068 --> 00:36:30,029 And our investment earnings are 3.5%. So we actually have an arbitrage, uh, situation 409 00:36:30,043 --> 00:36:37,014 advantage to the port, um, although our rate is gonna reset at the end of 2028, so 410 00:36:37,014 --> 00:36:41,027 that's something we'll have to be thinking about. Our revenues are higher than we 411 00:36:41,027 --> 00:36:45,071 expected, our expenses are lower, and our net position, so the port's net worth is 412 00:36:45,071 --> 00:36:49,079 about $67 million. And then the last one is our levy rate. It's actually under 20 413 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:57,027 cents. Uh, it's 0.198. Um, I actually just rounded it up to 20 cents, but, um, that's 414 00:36:57,027 --> 00:37:04,016 really, so if you have a $400,000 house, that's about $80 a year. That's what you 415 00:37:04,016 --> 00:37:07,048 pay the poor Kennewick. Uh, so you're getting a lot of bang for your buck. And then 416 00:37:07,048 --> 00:37:15,006 you can see the left, that's the 2001 tax levy. And That's the maximum capacity a 417 00:37:15,006 --> 00:37:21,008 port can levy, 44 cents per 1000. So, the spread, the difference, 44 to 20, that's 418 00:37:21,008 --> 00:37:25,052 what we call our bank capacity. So, we have a lot of levy capacity and what's going 419 00:37:25,052 --> 00:37:28,008 to happen is this is going to continue to go down at 20 cents per 1000. 420 00:37:32,004 --> 00:37:38,015 All right. So, the, we call it the BFOP. It's the budgeting philosophy. We passed 421 00:37:38,015 --> 00:37:42,087 this, the commission passed it, I want to say in 2017. And it's kind of a guiding 422 00:37:42,087 --> 00:37:48,076 document. I find, we found it really valuable, in my opinion, at least. Um Couple 423 00:37:48,076 --> 00:37:51,006 of things here, I'm not gonna talk about all of them, but the very bottom one, the 424 00:37:51,006 --> 00:37:57,032 reserve fund. OK, environmental pollution claims against the port, and we had that 425 00:37:57,034 --> 00:38:03,019 money set aside before PFOS happened. And so this is the fund we use to fund the 426 00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:07,067 approximate $700,000 we paid. Um, and it could have been more, it could have been 427 00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:13,077 way worse than it was. Um, so, If you can get out one thing in this presentation, 428 00:38:14,026 --> 00:38:20,093 the $700,000 we funded it out of the current budget. So, the way the budget philosophy 429 00:38:20,093 --> 00:38:24,029 document reads is that you can either fund it at a current budget or the next one. 430 00:38:25,001 --> 00:38:28,071 But the way we saw it was we want to pay for it right away because we will be fiscally 431 00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:34,036 responsible. Um, and we've all I don't think any media is here, but we've seen the 432 00:38:34,036 --> 00:38:38,099 news lately with all the other various entities that are having budgeting problems, 433 00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:43,064 and we don't want to be in that situation. We budget conservatively, and so we've 434 00:38:43,064 --> 00:38:48,008 actually um paid that upfront, so we don't have to worry about it in the future. 435 00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:49,025 Just put it behind us. 436 00:38:51,043 --> 00:38:55,086 Budget assumptions and then really, these are kind of a given, but the far right 437 00:38:55,086 --> 00:39:00,000 one maintaining poor investments. This has always been a value. Um, one thing we 438 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,095 could sacrifice is our properties. You know, if you're walking around Clover Island 439 00:39:03,095 --> 00:39:09,069 and you want to see weeds that are growing, etc. It would be cheaper for us if we 440 00:39:09,069 --> 00:39:13,038 did that. But that's one thing we've never wanted to sacrifice, and that's what we've 441 00:39:13,038 --> 00:39:19,062 heard from the commission. And so this um budget doesn't sacrifice anything. So maintaining 442 00:39:19,062 --> 00:39:27,000 our investments. Tammy, do you have anything? Yeah, OK. Any, any questions up to 443 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,016 this point? Well, it's great, Nick. Thank you. OK, so we have really 3 categories 444 00:39:31,016 --> 00:39:36,087 the operating expenses, the non-operating ones, and capital. So, and then from there, 445 00:39:36,095 --> 00:39:40,078 we further divide them into divisions. So, our first operating division, which means 446 00:39:40,078 --> 00:39:45,023 the day to day operations of the port, is the marine division. So, this is our marina, 447 00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:52,075 field dock, and um Boat hall out And so this division, um, you can see there's a 448 00:39:52,075 --> 00:39:56,067 little bit of a spread there, about 20,000 bucks, but, um, I would forecast or I 449 00:39:56,067 --> 00:40:01,055 would assume because we budget conservatively, our expenses of 783 are going to be 450 00:40:01,055 --> 00:40:07,052 lower. I would like to think they will be. I'm very positive they will be. Um, so 451 00:40:07,052 --> 00:40:11,023 really the best. The scenario we can have in the marina is that this is a complete 452 00:40:11,023 --> 00:40:15,015 wash. So that means that everybody in the marina is paying for the services they're 453 00:40:15,015 --> 00:40:20,001 providing, getting provided. That means other taxpayers aren't supplementing them 454 00:40:20,064 --> 00:40:24,087 as marina tenants. Uh, so I find that to be a really good number. We made a lot of 455 00:40:24,087 --> 00:40:29,079 really good changes in the marina for 2027, and there's various different ones, but 456 00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:34,075 the biggest one we went to was we actually reduced the insurance requirements, uh, 457 00:40:34,088 --> 00:40:41,023 for tenants because it became too onerous for poor staff to audit it. Um So actually 458 00:40:41,023 --> 00:40:47,044 reduce the cost for marine attendants, um. And then, uh, what else? Oh, we moved 459 00:40:47,044 --> 00:40:52,069 to a flat electricity billing. So, one thing that's been difficult is we have 150 460 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:57,021 marina pedestals, power pedestals. You have to go manually read them every month 461 00:40:57,021 --> 00:41:01,093 and try to calculate how much electricity they use. And it's been a real headache 462 00:41:01,093 --> 00:41:07,013 for my department and for, I guess it's Mike's department, the operations division 463 00:41:07,013 --> 00:41:12,034 to read them. And uh so we went to a flat rate. So based upon your slip size, we're 464 00:41:12,034 --> 00:41:16,081 gonna charge somebody like 10 bucks a month. And so that's all there is to it. And 465 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:20,062 so I think there's a lot of good improvements we made that are gonna take effect 466 00:41:20,062 --> 00:41:25,089 in January. Um So Nick, just a little on the process of the utilities to be fair, 467 00:41:25,098 --> 00:41:30,001 we did a two-year rate study so we went back through all of our 150 marina tenants 468 00:41:30,001 --> 00:41:34,048 plus our boat houses and analyzed the last two years of what we're charging them 469 00:41:34,007 --> 00:41:38,012 and then we kind of forecast out what we should be charging them currently and then 470 00:41:38,003 --> 00:41:45,001 that'll be effective January 1st, 2027. So, and then we'll reevaluate it to um every 471 00:41:45,001 --> 00:41:49,072 year so we won't be going out there every quarter to go read 150 marine attendance 472 00:41:49,072 --> 00:41:54,089 utilities and then And then sometimes they leave before the quarter's ended so we 473 00:41:54,089 --> 00:41:59,073 won't get to, we weren't able to recap the utility from them. So this time will be 474 00:41:59,073 --> 00:42:03,002 happening in real time. So and there's a few other ports that have been doing this 475 00:42:03,022 --> 00:42:08,082 pretty successfully too. We put a lot of time and effort into that, not just Tammy 476 00:42:08,082 --> 00:42:12,086 and I was a lot of team effort, our marina committee or at the port, uh, to make 477 00:42:12,086 --> 00:42:19,046 that positive change. The other thing too is our insurance costs. I mean, I, I looked, 478 00:42:19,055 --> 00:42:25,045 I, I mean, in detail here a few weeks ago, and we spent almost $500,000 on insurance 479 00:42:26,011 --> 00:42:31,062 last year. And it's much, it's very painful, but um we've met with our insurance 480 00:42:31,062 --> 00:42:37,012 providers and we're very well covered. So, we don't want to sacrifice that either. 481 00:42:37,027 --> 00:42:41,042 So, there's a cost of being conservative. And the problem is, is if we have a massive 482 00:42:41,042 --> 00:42:45,017 claim, you know, we don't necessarily, we have our reserve fund, but we don't have 483 00:42:45,017 --> 00:42:49,009 enough. Capital to cover a massive event at the marina, for example. 484 00:42:51,056 --> 00:42:55,003 OK, let's move on to the property management division. So you see more of a spread 485 00:42:55,003 --> 00:43:01,013 here. This is The cost of maintaining what we have. So this is, you see Anthony there 486 00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:06,081 working down the boat ramp. Uh, this is Clover Island, the lighthouse, Vista Field, 487 00:43:06,094 --> 00:43:12,001 I mean, these are maintaining our properties and Columbia Gardens. Um, the revenues 488 00:43:12,001 --> 00:43:15,031 are lease revenues we have associated with all of our properties, the expenses are 489 00:43:15,031 --> 00:43:18,057 all the, uh, various different costs and whether they go along with them. 490 00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:25,083 OK, let's scroll down. This is the corporate cost, the corporate division. This is 491 00:43:25,083 --> 00:43:29,054 overhead for the port. This is the cost of doing business. This is our cost right 492 00:43:29,056 --> 00:43:34,061 now as we sit here, uh, cost, um, salary, commissions, uh, for the commissioners, 493 00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:39,071 benefits. Um, also, there's insurance, liability insurance in here as well, uh, cause 494 00:43:39,071 --> 00:43:45,026 we have various kinds of insurance and that's all, a big part of that factor. One 495 00:43:45,026 --> 00:43:50,008 thing too we should probably reference um well I copiers and office supplies etc. 496 00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:58,049 um what's that insurance insurance yeah um we went through expenses line by line 497 00:43:58,049 --> 00:44:03,081 but most of them have a 5% inflation factor on uh but unless we had a reason to believe 498 00:44:03,081 --> 00:44:09,008 otherwise, which there was a few that we overrode but um we're Assuming that inflation 499 00:44:09,008 --> 00:44:13,044 is going to be 5% on our expense side, which we feel is very conservative, and we 500 00:44:13,044 --> 00:44:17,032 kind of do a linear regression analysis where we look back 3 or 4 years and then 501 00:44:17,032 --> 00:44:20,008 project it forward to see kind of what it would look like on a trend analysis and 502 00:44:20,008 --> 00:44:25,073 then we also take our Current contracts in place and we um add all those up and try 503 00:44:25,073 --> 00:44:30,005 to take the higher of the two and then mark it up with a 5%. So we're pretty conservative 504 00:44:30,005 --> 00:44:33,065 in this number so we don't like coming back to the commissioner and say we need more 505 00:44:33,065 --> 00:44:37,025 money. We want to make sure that we have enough money and we can afford the staff 506 00:44:37,025 --> 00:44:41,006 and not have all these budget cuts um like City of Pasco is doing right now, so. 507 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:45,064 Um, yeah, so it's pretty conservative budget and like with the revenues too like 508 00:44:45,064 --> 00:44:50,053 Nick was saying, we, we only put the contracts that are the leases that are in place 509 00:44:50,074 --> 00:44:54,071 through 2028 unless they're highly likely to renew. So we work with Amber on that 510 00:44:54,073 --> 00:44:58,004 to make sure that these guys are going to highly like renew. So usually we're always 511 00:44:58,004 --> 00:45:02,028 going to exceed our revenues and go under expenditures on these budget processes. 512 00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:07,067 Yeah, and that, and that protects us from issues like you're seeing at school districts, 513 00:45:07,072 --> 00:45:12,078 cities, probably counties, and other ports. So we like to be insulated from that. 514 00:45:13,059 --> 00:45:18,006 Um, this is a non-operating division, the expense side of things, and you see that 515 00:45:18,006 --> 00:45:25,002 number 1,081,000. This is, um, Rochelle, this is her division, and this, that's not 516 00:45:25,002 --> 00:45:30,008 her salary, I promise you. Um, but there's so many things that go into that. I mean, 517 00:45:30,013 --> 00:45:35,052 our tri-ech dues, our big one visit Tri-Cities, um, our ribbon cuttings, as you can 518 00:45:35,052 --> 00:45:39,067 see a picture here, um, there are so many things that go in here. And then the third 519 00:45:39,067 --> 00:45:44,083 bar, elections, regulatory, and other. I always find it funny because elections, 520 00:45:45,021 --> 00:45:49,028 we have to pay for those, even if we don't have a commissioner up for election. We're 521 00:45:49,028 --> 00:45:53,061 always paying our share of elections. And then audits, you know, we actually pay 522 00:45:53,061 --> 00:45:58,005 them to come harass us for 3 months, which I always find kind of funny. Um, but the 523 00:45:58,005 --> 00:46:02,011 state auditor's office sends us a big bill, uh, anytime they spend time with us. 524 00:46:02,026 --> 00:46:08,098 So that's what those primary costs are. Anything on that one, Tammy, um, we, we did 525 00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:13,021 reduce the state audit costs because we went to a 2-year audit cycle instead, so 526 00:46:13,021 --> 00:46:17,001 we did some cost savings there trying to save as much as we can as we went through 527 00:46:17,001 --> 00:46:20,073 this budget process. That's a really a point. I think I briefed the commission on 528 00:46:20,073 --> 00:46:26,073 that, uh, that we switched to a 2-year budget or a 2 year, um, audit, um, which I 529 00:46:26,073 --> 00:46:30,077 thought would save us. They actually gave us a 3-year choice, but the problem with 530 00:46:30,077 --> 00:46:36,088 the 3 years, it's a long time window. And your recollection of events is less than 531 00:46:36,088 --> 00:46:40,044 3 years and 2 years is what we did before, so we really like the thought of 2 years. 532 00:46:40,053 --> 00:46:42,001 We thought it was a good middle ground. 533 00:46:44,042 --> 00:46:49,001 OK, so let's do non-operating revenue side. OK, property taxes, you see the big bar, 534 00:46:49,003 --> 00:46:54,081 11.1 million over a two-year period, about 5.5 million per year. It goes up about 535 00:46:54,081 --> 00:47:00,095 60,000 per year with the 1% increase that we're allowed by statute. And then the 536 00:47:01,033 --> 00:47:07,056 interest income 1 $365,000 we've actually never been able to budget for that. Because 537 00:47:07,059 --> 00:47:12,062 interest rates were near 0 for so long. Uh, so now it's really nice. That's a really 538 00:47:12,062 --> 00:47:20,041 nice extra revenue for us. Um, so, Any questions up to this point? Commissioners, 539 00:47:20,083 --> 00:47:25,008 how you doing? Yup. All right, let's move on to the real estate division. This is 540 00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:32,044 Amber's division. Um, Revenues almost 3 million. Um, this is obviously estimated 541 00:47:32,044 --> 00:47:36,044 and that number is comprised of blue chart assuming we sell a bunch of lots of blue 542 00:47:36,044 --> 00:47:42,049 chart and that uh Dulo Foster is that the right name and we're the five-story building 543 00:47:43,053 --> 00:47:49,054 batique, OK, um, and the expenses, the blue bar is what we estimate will be the time 544 00:47:49,054 --> 00:47:54,076 allowed um it's, it's really hard to predict obviously, but We all code our time 545 00:47:54,076 --> 00:47:58,024 when we're working on these projects. So that would be like an expense related to 546 00:47:58,024 --> 00:48:05,052 the sale. And transaction costs, etc. um. To Tammy's point, we only put in here what 547 00:48:05,052 --> 00:48:09,063 we have under contract. I mean, obviously the next couple of years. Amber is really 548 00:48:09,063 --> 00:48:15,006 good at her job, obviously, and she'll probably drum up other land sales aside from 549 00:48:15,008 --> 00:48:20,052 those. So those will go in here as well. So, but we just budget for what we had in 550 00:48:20,052 --> 00:48:20,088 hand. 551 00:48:23,037 --> 00:48:28,044 OK, Economic Development division, the revenues here, the $3 million that's RCCF 552 00:48:28,044 --> 00:48:34,058 funds. Um, in the current budget cycle, we received a grant from HF, um, I think 553 00:48:34,058 --> 00:48:41,092 that was 150,000. Is that right, Tammy? Or was it 175? Well, OK, and that, 554 00:48:42,036 --> 00:48:47,072 that, um, paid for the pavilion parking lot, all the A&E design work at the pavilion 555 00:48:47,072 --> 00:48:51,071 parking lot, and the other 3 million here is for the remainder of that parking lot, 556 00:48:51,081 --> 00:48:55,012 and that's what we get reimbursed for. And it's been approved by the county. Tim 557 00:48:55,012 --> 00:49:01,015 and I went and got approved from the county. Um, and then the 10.5 million, that's 558 00:49:01,015 --> 00:49:05,047 all our capital expenses, which will match your work plan that you approved at the 559 00:49:05,047 --> 00:49:06,019 end of September. 560 00:49:09,023 --> 00:49:13,074 OK. The other thing we have to do is, like I said, we actually code our time to projects 561 00:49:13,074 --> 00:49:18,006 we're working on. And we do that because we want to make sure our financial records 562 00:49:18,006 --> 00:49:21,078 are more accurate, right? It makes sense to code your time to what you're working 563 00:49:21,078 --> 00:49:27,007 on. You can make yourself more effective as a business. And so, uh, the problem with 564 00:49:27,007 --> 00:49:30,094 that is when you're doing a tier budget, you have to forecast this out to put it 565 00:49:30,094 --> 00:49:37,043 in the budget. So that's what we did here. Um, that's an estimated Um, staff costs 566 00:49:37,043 --> 00:49:42,059 that includes pensions and benefits and federal taxes, all the stuff nobody wants 567 00:49:42,059 --> 00:49:49,027 to hear about. Um, but that's our estimate there. And then capital projects, a few 568 00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:57,005 notes here. Um, I, I'll put my cursor over here. Infrastructure West construction. 569 00:49:58,031 --> 00:50:06,003 Um, $2 million. That is an RCCF candidate. So if we decide to I'm 570 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:09,075 assuming the commission will approve this, uh, capital budget because this matches 571 00:50:09,075 --> 00:50:15,038 the work plan that was approved. Um, at some point, Tim will have to go to the county 572 00:50:15,044 --> 00:50:19,065 and get this approved by them. We currently have about $1.6 million in our fund. 573 00:50:20,016 --> 00:50:24,015 As you can see, you can't go to them until you have $2 million and request it. So 574 00:50:24,015 --> 00:50:28,095 we'll probably be to $2 million in the spring, I'd say March or April. And so at 575 00:50:28,095 --> 00:50:33,095 that point, we can have Rochelle put together an application and we can go present 576 00:50:33,095 --> 00:50:38,067 to the county and I wouldn't expect any problems, um, but that's gonna be an RCCF 577 00:50:38,067 --> 00:50:44,085 candidate uh project. The other thing is, one thing we didn't necessarily expect 578 00:50:44,085 --> 00:50:52,076 was the $350,000 for marina pairs. And that is a fairly recent thing, um, and 579 00:50:52,076 --> 00:50:58,023 Amber's hired a consultant, um, actually the company that designed our marina. We've 580 00:50:58,023 --> 00:51:01,094 worked with them quite a bit and come up with the improvements we need to make to 581 00:51:01,094 --> 00:51:06,057 the marina. And the marina now, I mean, what do you think, Amber's 25 to $30 million 582 00:51:06,059 --> 00:51:13,033 to rebuild it? Oh, and we wouldn't be able to rebuild this, uh, as covered mortgage 583 00:51:13,064 --> 00:51:16,071 along the river. That was one thing our consultant said you would never be able to 584 00:51:16,071 --> 00:51:24,005 rebuild this marina as covered because of the fish, you know, restrictions, um, and 585 00:51:24,013 --> 00:51:30,083 what was it, $9 million when we originally constructed almost 20 years ago. Uh, so 586 00:51:30,083 --> 00:51:36,009 yes, so it's, it's in our best interest to Make improvements to it to keep it um 587 00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:43,093 nicely maintained in those maintenance, um, repairs are treated differently under 588 00:51:43,093 --> 00:51:48,049 our, our permit. So you can do repairs. You do, would not wanna take something out 589 00:51:48,049 --> 00:51:53,029 and try and put it back in. Um, so we have some repairs that need to be made from 590 00:51:53,054 --> 00:51:59,007 wear and tear, um, you know. The otters eating, you know, a float or something like 591 00:51:59,007 --> 00:52:05,086 that. We've, we've, we've got, um, a consultant that's helping us with a dive team 592 00:52:05,086 --> 00:52:10,082 came in and did some dive for us. We're looking at some things that he inspected 593 00:52:10,082 --> 00:52:15,084 on the boat launch and potentially our field docks. So these improvements to maintain 594 00:52:15,084 --> 00:52:21,032 our asset, which is obviously valuable, um, just from what Amber said, then the cost 595 00:52:21,032 --> 00:52:25,086 to rebuild it. I mean, that consultant said it would be, um, it's a beautiful marina. 596 00:52:25,089 --> 00:52:30,056 It's the most beautiful one I've ever seen. Obviously, I'm biased, but, um, This 597 00:52:30,056 --> 00:52:34,039 $350,000 would just be in this budget and then probably in the next one as well, 598 00:52:34,041 --> 00:52:39,006 because $350,000 won't cover the repairs in entirety. We need to make some repairs 599 00:52:39,006 --> 00:52:45,044 to the floats on the dock and some concrete uh decking. Um, so, this is gonna be 600 00:52:45,044 --> 00:52:50,044 one that you're probably gonna see in the 2930 budget as well. Potentially beyond 601 00:52:50,044 --> 00:52:55,004 that, I'm not really sure, we'll have to figure that out. But, um, The last one I 602 00:52:55,004 --> 00:53:00,052 want to bring up is the $100,000 for the opportunity fund right here. Um, I want 603 00:53:00,052 --> 00:53:06,076 to highlight the commission's already obligated that to the CTUIR Powwow event. I 604 00:53:06,076 --> 00:53:10,044 believe it's gonna be next summer at sometime. Uh, so I just want to make sure the 605 00:53:10,044 --> 00:53:15,021 commission's aware that that's not, um, Can't go elsewhere at this point. It's committed 606 00:53:15,021 --> 00:53:20,052 to that project. And then, you know, my last slide is really just summary budget. 607 00:53:21,042 --> 00:53:26,037 And this looks very simple. It's a very simplified version of a lot of detail, right, 608 00:53:26,053 --> 00:53:31,033 Tammy? I mean, there's a lot of different lines that summit into these, but, uh, 609 00:53:31,046 --> 00:53:34,053 this is a summary budget that the commission will pass, and this will go to Benton 610 00:53:34,053 --> 00:53:41,027 County, um, and so we can establish our tax levy in January. Um, that's all I have. 611 00:53:41,036 --> 00:53:47,015 I, you know, I really, again, appreciate everyone's time. And, um, you know, this 612 00:53:47,015 --> 00:53:51,071 budget I think is very sustainable and I think um we're setting ourselves up for 613 00:53:51,071 --> 00:53:57,063 success. So, any questions from the commission? Questions, commissioner. 614 00:53:59,043 --> 00:54:03,001 Um, I just wrote a couple of notes down. Um, no, I just wanna say thank you guys 615 00:54:03,001 --> 00:54:07,065 for enduring these headaches, uh, and creating this great communication between all 616 00:54:07,065 --> 00:54:13,061 the programs here, um, taking in national and state level stats into our budget, 617 00:54:13,074 --> 00:54:20,043 you know, always staying ahead of the what ifs. Um, yeah, just focusing on making 618 00:54:20,043 --> 00:54:25,023 sure the operations are at full staff here, um, and that our projects keep continuing. 619 00:54:25,052 --> 00:54:29,091 So just thank you for all the numbers and thoughts that you guys put into this. Welcome. 620 00:54:31,002 --> 00:54:35,007 Nick, I do have some questions. You mentioned the RCCF fund, and we've got a balance 621 00:54:35,072 --> 00:54:40,008 there. How much does that balance grow a month? It's about 50,000. It does, yeah, 622 00:54:40,016 --> 00:54:44,011 it's based upon sales tax revenue, OK. And that, that'll continue. Do we have to 623 00:54:44,011 --> 00:54:47,091 do anything with that? Is that automatic? No, actually, the county, um, was that 624 00:54:47,091 --> 00:54:51,009 last year, Tim? They actually hired a lobbyist to make sure that funding kept coming 625 00:54:51,092 --> 00:54:58,055 to the cities. And uh ports and so there was some discussion at some point of legislator 626 00:54:58,055 --> 00:55:05,003 swiping that money from the counties um but they, they went to, I mean to battle 627 00:55:05,003 --> 00:55:09,042 for us is the way I view it so really helpful because that money is valuable for 628 00:55:09,042 --> 00:55:13,005 us. We did a lot. The loop road at Columbia Drive was our CCF. That was our first 629 00:55:13,007 --> 00:55:18,017 one. It was actually the first county project, I believe. Um, so yeah, that, that 630 00:55:18,017 --> 00:55:23,092 should continue on. There's some new agreement in place for, it was like 30 years, 631 00:55:24,046 --> 00:55:30,047 longer than I'll be working, hopefully, hopefully, we'll see. We'll talk about that. 632 00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:36,054 And then what about um because you had the levy rates that were, I don't know what 633 00:55:36,054 --> 00:55:41,005 year it was 2001, 2001, and then you had the current one. Any comparison to other 634 00:55:41,005 --> 00:55:45,094 ports, especially the local ones, about what their levy rates are, um, off the top 635 00:55:45,094 --> 00:55:50,033 of my head I'm not sure. I do think we're lower. Yeah, well, a while back I did a 636 00:55:50,047 --> 00:55:54,092 rate study and we were one of the lower ones, really. Because that's, that's pretty 637 00:55:54,092 --> 00:55:59,004 amazing. I mean, I just like to brag on that one, you know, the levy rates go down, 638 00:55:59,013 --> 00:56:03,032 but the value of what the port has for the public goes up. It's just great management 639 00:56:03,032 --> 00:56:07,067 of funds. Thank you, and I, I like the fact that you're talking about maintenance 640 00:56:07,097 --> 00:56:12,047 and keeping things in order of what we have. Um, I think that's awesome, you know, 641 00:56:12,068 --> 00:56:16,038 especially after Amber's talking about the marina and the possibility you could never 642 00:56:16,004 --> 00:56:19,083 build that again. So yeah, let's take, let's take good care of things. You guys are 643 00:56:19,083 --> 00:56:26,074 doing great. So thank you very much. Any other questions or comments? Great, thanks, 644 00:56:26,082 --> 00:56:33,029 Nick. Great. OK, we'll move on to, uh, commissioner appointment update, and that's 645 00:56:33,029 --> 00:56:38,053 Carolyn and I. And as I mentioned on behalf of the board of commissioners at our 646 00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:43,007 last meeting, all the applicants were, were required to fill out a district one commission 647 00:56:43,007 --> 00:56:48,065 seat vacancy would be accepted until the final deadline of October 8th at 4 p.m. 648 00:56:50,015 --> 00:56:54,002 With that deadline now behind us today, we're announcing the names of all applicants 649 00:56:54,002 --> 00:56:59,024 who are registered voters and live in Port District 1. As confirmed by Benton County 650 00:56:59,024 --> 00:57:07,019 Election Division, these are Matt Binke, Don Britton, Barry Bush, Van Cummings, 651 00:57:07,004 --> 00:57:13,099 Nicholas Haberling, James Hempstead, Marie Moseley, and Robert Rob Welsh. 652 00:57:14,096 --> 00:57:18,063 And as we've said multiple times, there's no advantage of when these individuals 653 00:57:18,063 --> 00:57:23,068 applied because it was during our first um invitation for nominees or this current 654 00:57:23,068 --> 00:57:28,019 one. And they're all eligible to be considered on equal basis for the important role 655 00:57:28,019 --> 00:57:32,042 to serve our community. You know, and I find it very, very interesting with these 656 00:57:32,044 --> 00:57:36,014 people. If you look at them, if you know who they are or did any research on them. 657 00:57:37,028 --> 00:57:41,094 The Port of Kennewick is in a very, very unique position of what we do and how people 658 00:57:42,024 --> 00:57:47,011 view what we do. We have an awesome staff, um, that's just done quality work as we're 659 00:57:47,011 --> 00:57:50,035 talking about the marina, you know, it's, it's just, you'll never find another one 660 00:57:50,035 --> 00:57:56,076 like it. And there's, I think these people that applied. Really want to be part of 661 00:57:56,009 --> 00:58:01,052 the success that Port of Kennewick's enjoyed and be part of this team. So I just 662 00:58:01,054 --> 00:58:06,001 did a little bit and just think about this. We've got 8 applicants, 5 of them have 663 00:58:06,001 --> 00:58:12,001 held elected positions previously, 3 served on the Kennewick City council, 2 of them 664 00:58:12,001 --> 00:58:17,081 have served as mayor, 1 is a former city manager, 1's a school administrator, and 665 00:58:17,081 --> 00:58:22,041 1 is serving in the Washington State legislature. Legislation. So just think about 666 00:58:22,043 --> 00:58:25,066 the quality of people that applied and why do we have this quality? Because like 667 00:58:25,066 --> 00:58:29,034 I said, I think it's the Port of Kennewick, and I think we've got a reputation for 668 00:58:29,034 --> 00:58:33,014 doing good things and that people want to jump on board and be part of what we have. 669 00:58:33,097 --> 00:58:38,047 So, with that said, um, I'd like to invite Carolyn Lake to share the next steps in 670 00:58:38,047 --> 00:58:41,035 our appointment process. Carolyn 671 00:58:43,098 --> 00:58:49,009 Thank you, Commissioner. Yes, we have a couple more steps in this very important 672 00:58:49,009 --> 00:58:55,025 process. Now that you've announced who the applicants are, the commissioners will 673 00:58:55,025 --> 00:59:02,094 independently review the applicants' applications, and then at the October 27th 674 00:59:02,099 --> 00:59:08,068 regular public meeting, you commissioners will determine if you want to. Finalists 675 00:59:08,068 --> 00:59:14,044 to interview or if you want to interview all the qualified applicants that um commissioner 676 00:59:14,044 --> 00:59:20,075 you just named. Then on November 4th, the court will hold a special meeting open 677 00:59:20,075 --> 00:59:27,019 to the public at 5 p.m. at the Tri-Cities Business and Visitors Center boardroom 678 00:59:27,019 --> 00:59:32,001 in Kennewick, and the purpose of that meeting is to interview finalists for the vacant 679 00:59:32,012 --> 00:59:37,083 position. And all this is posted on the port's website in case you're frantically 680 00:59:37,083 --> 00:59:43,035 taking notes at that November 4th meeting, in addition to answering questions, each 681 00:59:43,035 --> 00:59:48,007 applicant interviewed will be asked to speak up to 3 minutes about the value they 682 00:59:48,007 --> 00:59:53,046 would bring to the commission. And the special public meeting will also include a 683 00:59:53,046 --> 00:59:59,048 public comment period after the interviews and applicant remarks are concluded, uh, 684 00:59:59,063 --> 01:00:03,086 so that the commissioners can have the benefit of hearing from community members 685 01:00:03,086 --> 01:00:10,014 on various applicants, um. The commissioners may choose to discuss the qualifications 686 01:00:10,014 --> 01:00:16,038 of the of the applicants at the special meeting or most likely defer that until November 687 01:00:16,038 --> 01:00:21,064 10th, um, which is the, uh, following regular public meeting of the commissioner. 688 01:00:21,099 --> 01:00:27,002 At that time, the commissioners will deliberate and actually appoint their selection 689 01:00:27,002 --> 01:00:32,057 to fill the vacant district one position. Then that appointed commissioner will then 690 01:00:32,057 --> 01:00:40,013 serve in that capacity until certification of the 2027 election. During the November 691 01:00:40,013 --> 01:00:47,077 2027 election, voters in District 1 will then elect an individual to serve as a representative 692 01:00:48,006 --> 01:00:54,054 on the board of commissioners for the full six-year term. And a little bit unusual. 693 01:00:55,007 --> 01:01:01,009 The candidate that's elected will take place immediately after the certification 694 01:01:01,009 --> 01:01:07,088 of the vote. They won't wait until January. They'll assume the position after. Um, 695 01:01:08,017 --> 01:01:14,064 the vote in 2027 is certified and of course, whoever is selected by the commission 696 01:01:14,064 --> 01:01:20,064 as the appointee, uh, this year, uh, is free to decide whether to run in that election 697 01:01:20,064 --> 01:01:27,018 or not. Thank you, commissioner. Thank you, Carolyn. Any questions of the appointment 698 01:01:27,018 --> 01:01:27,074 process? 699 01:01:29,081 --> 01:01:37,076 Nothing. Snap, any comments or questions or? I just, Tim. Sorry, earlier 700 01:01:37,076 --> 01:01:41,004 I told you I wasn't gonna say anything, and Rochelle gave me my script, which was 701 01:01:41,004 --> 01:01:46,071 a blank piece of paper, but you know me, I can't resist. Um, from my point of view, 702 01:01:47,005 --> 01:01:52,092 as your executive, this is kind of a sad time. We saw a great commissioner retire 703 01:01:52,092 --> 01:01:58,096 that left a, you know, a big hole to fill. But it's an exciting time, as, as Commissioner 704 01:01:58,096 --> 01:02:02,092 Novakovich mentioned, we have some great applicants. I mean, this is, this is an 705 01:02:02,092 --> 01:02:08,075 all-star field. But from my perspective, And I've said this a number of times. My 706 01:02:08,075 --> 01:02:14,051 job is to learn. Who the new commissioner is, what he or she likes, what their thoughts 707 01:02:14,051 --> 01:02:19,051 might be on moving forward with the port. So, I've got some learning to do. But also 708 01:02:19,051 --> 01:02:24,071 another thing that I've said repeatedly is, I have to learn the entire commission, 709 01:02:25,012 --> 01:02:30,032 because as you get another person to join you, it's likely gonna influence how you 710 01:02:30,032 --> 01:02:36,057 approach things and, you know, I've always said it's 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. But as a group, 711 01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:42,018 I'm looking forward to some new dynamics. It will give us a new recharge of energy. 712 01:02:42,055 --> 01:02:47,056 There will be opportunities for interesting debates. So my job, not only is to learn 713 01:02:47,087 --> 01:02:51,054 the likes and dislikes of the new commissioner, but I've got to relearn this entire 714 01:02:51,054 --> 01:02:55,095 board. And although I've been here 24 years, I do have some background saying that 715 01:02:55,095 --> 01:03:00,005 because when we get a new commissioner, You know, it's kind of like scrambling the 716 01:03:00,005 --> 01:03:04,078 deck a little bit, and it'll be fun. It will really be fun. This is a great opportunity, 717 01:03:05,015 --> 01:03:10,054 not only for the commission, the staff, but the public. And, you know, I think that 718 01:03:10,054 --> 01:03:16,068 uh you're seeing people that are energized, that want to be a part of this organization, 719 01:03:16,099 --> 01:03:22,006 and they will likely have some interesting insights and views on how we should go 720 01:03:22,006 --> 01:03:28,083 forward. So, it's gonna be a fun time. Thank you, Tim. Anybody else comments? Carolyn, 721 01:03:29,008 --> 01:03:29,095 anything else to add? 722 01:03:33,054 --> 01:03:38,005 Uh, I do not. Thank you. Thank you. Just thanks to the support team, um, that put 723 01:03:38,005 --> 01:03:43,049 together, um, the, the great process and, and supporting that process along the way. 724 01:03:43,058 --> 01:03:47,057 Thank you. And to add to that, you know, I just wanna thank Rochelle and Bridget 725 01:03:47,057 --> 01:03:53,046 and anybody else that, uh, prepared all this information for us because they prepared 726 01:03:53,046 --> 01:03:57,069 a binder that's full of information with notes and everything on what happens at 727 01:03:57,069 --> 01:04:01,094 every meeting and it's just You guys have done a great job, so I just want to thank 728 01:04:01,094 --> 01:04:05,003 you for that because I don't know how in the world we would have done that. And that's 729 01:04:05,003 --> 01:04:08,038 what I always say, kind of, kind of listen to these people because they know what 730 01:04:08,038 --> 01:04:11,085 to do and then they've done it and they do a better job than we do. So thank you 731 01:04:12,014 --> 01:04:12,007 very much. 732 01:04:14,022 --> 01:04:20,016 Anything else to add to? Appointment process. OK, seeing then we'll move on to uh 733 01:04:20,016 --> 01:04:26,022 CEO report if needed. Yeah, thank you. I've got a couple of items. Start off with 734 01:04:26,022 --> 01:04:31,059 the, um, an update on the passenger boat. Uh, I had worked a little bit earlier in 735 01:04:31,059 --> 01:04:38,037 the summer to get a letter that would come from Triports that would have some support 736 01:04:38,064 --> 01:04:44,043 for the passenger boat concept, and we got um support from our two sister ports, 737 01:04:44,052 --> 01:04:49,017 Port of Pasco, Port of Benton. And not only just support in the form of a letter, 738 01:04:49,025 --> 01:04:55,004 but when I talked with each of the CEO's very enthusiastic support for the concept. 739 01:04:55,073 --> 01:05:01,064 And then, um, as we were talking with um the city of Kennewick folks during our normal 740 01:05:01,064 --> 01:05:07,038 monthly meetings, we brought this up and we learned that The Kennewick Fire Department 741 01:05:07,038 --> 01:05:12,095 would love to have access to a vessel like this that they could use for emergencies, 742 01:05:13,012 --> 01:05:17,071 not firefighting, because that would be a specialized boat with pumps and firefighting 743 01:05:17,071 --> 01:05:21,063 equipment, but they mentioned that they don't even have a way to get on the water 744 01:05:21,063 --> 01:05:25,059 in case there was an emergency. Remember the plane that hit the power lines recently. 745 01:05:26,018 --> 01:05:31,033 That was a good example for them because they could have come down here, got in the 746 01:05:31,033 --> 01:05:36,022 boat, gone out there, and if there were people in the water, survivors and so forth, 747 01:05:36,058 --> 01:05:40,068 they could have picked them up using this vessel. And again, the vessel would be 748 01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:45,085 small enough that it could be maneuverable. It'd likely be a jet drive boat, so you 749 01:05:45,085 --> 01:05:49,041 don't have props in the water if you're trying to pick people up. It's better to 750 01:05:49,041 --> 01:05:53,081 have, you know, no props in the water that could be of danger to people that are 751 01:05:53,081 --> 01:06:00,022 in the water needing to be rescued. And looking at it, I'm quite confident that the 752 01:06:00,022 --> 01:06:05,046 vessel we would need for our purposes, primarily passenger capacity, with a couple 753 01:06:05,046 --> 01:06:11,098 of modifications could be very helpful for the fire department, and it would be styled 754 01:06:11,098 --> 01:06:16,066 somewhat off of the new Coast Guard boats that are off the Oregon Washington coast 755 01:06:16,066 --> 01:06:20,099 where they have drop down areas on the sides where they can pick up people from the 756 01:06:20,099 --> 01:06:26,079 water that could easily be modified into a passenger boat. And it could then be very 757 01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:31,087 useful for the fire department. So the Kennewick City manager working in conjunction 758 01:06:31,087 --> 01:06:37,027 with the fire chief, wrote us a fabulous letter that we attached to our packet. And 759 01:06:37,027 --> 01:06:43,007 then we also included a write-up about the vessel in the Journal of Business. When 760 01:06:43,007 --> 01:06:47,007 Rochelle and I were talking to the Journal of Business reporter just about various 761 01:06:47,007 --> 01:06:52,023 port projects, we did not mention the passenger boat to the writer, and she brought 762 01:06:52,023 --> 01:06:56,099 it up. She said, what about the passenger boat? And then on her own, she did a side 763 01:06:56,099 --> 01:07:02,005 story about that, showing that there was at least enthusiasm from the Journal of 764 01:07:02,005 --> 01:07:07,002 Business about the vessel. So we included that with our packet. I turned it into 765 01:07:07,002 --> 01:07:12,086 Carl Dye at Trideck, and Carl has the opportunity to maybe help us with some funding 766 01:07:13,019 --> 01:07:18,005 for the vessel. So I met with Carl last week, and he's gonna kind of move it up the, 767 01:07:18,035 --> 01:07:22,089 up the incline, so to speak, within the organization to see if there'd be an opportunity 768 01:07:23,002 --> 01:07:28,018 for some funding. So, that was very positive, and I'll go over my last two thoughts 769 01:07:28,018 --> 01:07:32,041 here with you and then I'll pause, see if you have any questions. Uh, towards the 770 01:07:32,041 --> 01:07:37,072 end of this week, on Friday, Commissioner Novakovich and myself are making the journey 771 01:07:37,072 --> 01:07:43,066 to Lewiston, Idaho. We will be staying there for a couple of days. We will be attending 772 01:07:43,066 --> 01:07:50,044 the Powwow, and I believe it's the Nez Perce tribe that um has it at the casino that's 773 01:07:50,044 --> 01:07:56,091 just a few miles from Lewiston. And well, we have seen a powwow about this time last 774 01:07:56,093 --> 01:08:02,066 year in Pendleton. We wanted to see another one, maybe in a slightly smaller venue. 775 01:08:03,025 --> 01:08:08,068 Because if we are being asked by the Confederated tribes to help them plan their 776 01:08:08,068 --> 01:08:14,036 first ever powwow in Tri-Cities, we figured it'd be a great opportunity to see another 777 01:08:14,036 --> 01:08:20,067 one in action and get a chance to interface with the promoters and the folks that, 778 01:08:20,069 --> 01:08:27,033 uh, implement the event. So that'll be an opportunity for us as well. And, um, Then 779 01:08:27,033 --> 01:08:34,096 my final point on my CEO report is that um we used to have something called Triports 780 01:08:34,096 --> 01:08:38,092 where the three directors would get together, we'd meet monthly and we just kind 781 01:08:38,092 --> 01:08:43,068 of talk about things that are going on in the ports, maybe nothing that rises to 782 01:08:43,068 --> 01:08:48,041 the level of a public meeting or media attention, you know, something. That might 783 01:08:48,041 --> 01:08:52,097 be a little bit more mundane, we get a chance to just kinda chew the fat, so to speak, 784 01:08:53,002 --> 01:08:58,008 on what happens internally in the ports, any new ideas we could share. When I, uh, 785 01:08:58,001 --> 01:09:04,081 broached the topic with Adam Lincoln, the CEO for Port of Pasco, he asked if, if 786 01:09:04,081 --> 01:09:09,065 he thought it would be prudent that we joined 1/4 port with us, Port of Walla Walla. 787 01:09:10,004 --> 01:09:14,011 And as you remember, they have property now that is just across the Snake River, 788 01:09:14,002 --> 01:09:20,067 so really almost a member of the Tri-Cities community. So we invited our good friend 789 01:09:20,067 --> 01:09:26,057 Pat Ray and, the executive from Porta Walla Walla. We met over at Puerto Pasco. No 790 01:09:26,057 --> 01:09:31,029 agenda. We just started talking and it was a lot of fun and we were there for probably 791 01:09:31,029 --> 01:09:35,097 an hour and a half talking about some ideas and it was so positive that we thought 792 01:09:35,097 --> 01:09:40,028 that we would do it again. So that is my report and I'll pause, see if you have any 793 01:09:40,003 --> 01:09:45,098 questions or comments. Yeah, that, that is awesome. Any questions? Well, I think 794 01:09:45,098 --> 01:09:51,022 it's great too, you know, the passenger boats started a conversations about uh the 795 01:09:51,022 --> 01:09:55,051 trip ports, and I think it's just great to have Walla Walla join in. Yeah, I think 796 01:09:55,051 --> 01:09:59,089 it's all these opportunities of working together. I think it's gonna be good. Yeah, 797 01:09:59,094 --> 01:10:04,061 I totally agree. Passenger boat or the boat is just a great idea. I mean, we Talked 798 01:10:04,061 --> 01:10:09,014 about the marina. We have all the facilities to take care of that boat and to make 799 01:10:09,014 --> 01:10:13,001 sure it's, it's taken care of well, a place for it to, I don't know what you call 800 01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:18,017 it, harbor it or store it or whatever, but anyway, we've got everything. So I think 801 01:10:18,017 --> 01:10:22,005 it's great and the fact that the city and the and the fire chief are excited about 802 01:10:22,005 --> 01:10:28,044 it. I think this is great. Good job. Good job. All right, we'll move on then to, 803 01:10:28,055 --> 01:10:30,092 uh, Commissioner meetings. 804 01:10:35,056 --> 01:10:39,031 Um, we went to the reception, the elected leader's reception. I went with, uh, Rochelle 805 01:10:39,031 --> 01:10:44,021 and, uh, Tim, I think was that 2 weeks ago now, yeah, and then, uh, also I was invited 806 01:10:44,024 --> 01:10:48,026 to the, um, women helping women in, uh, luncheon, so I attended that as a commissioner, 807 01:10:48,084 --> 01:10:56,071 and I think that was it for me. OK. And as Tim talked about, I attended the WPP environmental 808 01:10:56,071 --> 01:11:03,002 meeting and, um. Uh, virtually, I attended a WPPA legislative committee meeting. 809 01:11:04,097 --> 01:11:06,095 OK, we'll move on then to nonscheduled. 810 01:11:09,073 --> 01:11:15,097 Lisa, anything? Nick I do have just one item. Rochelle slipped me a note, and I want 811 01:11:15,097 --> 01:11:22,093 to correct the record. The HIF grant was $325,000 and that paid for the A&E at the 812 01:11:22,093 --> 01:11:27,053 pavilion parking lot, and the RCCF will pay for the construction part. Great, thank 813 01:11:27,053 --> 01:11:28,017 you for that. 814 01:11:30,019 --> 01:11:36,079 Like anything? I just have one quick thing, this is Rochelle. On, I guess last Monday, 815 01:11:36,096 --> 01:11:41,007 October 5th, the Tri-City Rivershore Enhancement Council held a field tour for the 816 01:11:42,018 --> 01:11:45,097 US Army Corps of Engineer Walla Walla District new commander, Lieutenant Colonel 817 01:11:45,097 --> 01:11:51,085 Doug Dresch. And part of the tour included a stop at Clover Island, as well as a 818 01:11:51,085 --> 01:11:56,021 lighthouse inspection that, to talk about the incredible partnership that we had 819 01:11:56,021 --> 01:12:01,069 with the COR, the, the CTUIR, the City of Kennewick, and Benton County, um, as well 820 01:12:01,069 --> 01:12:06,002 as Washington State. To, um, enhance and restore the shoreline on the north side. 821 01:12:06,007 --> 01:12:10,081 They were, um, impressed with what had been done and that the plantings have continued 822 01:12:10,081 --> 01:12:15,078 to thrive. Um, and we had representatives from all the cities, all the ports, Benton 823 01:12:15,078 --> 01:12:20,022 County, uh, Tri-Dec, and Visit Tri-Cities on that tour. And so there's a few pictures 824 01:12:20,022 --> 01:12:24,022 you can see of them at the top of the lighthouse as well. So, um, it was a good tour 825 01:12:24,022 --> 01:12:31,058 and, and good to meet him. But thank you. Amber, anything? Kim? Anything non-scheduled? 826 01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:36,006 Yeah, I just want to, uh, say it's nice to see our good friend Cal Cooy in here, 827 01:12:36,011 --> 01:12:40,018 and Cal has probably been coming in here for what, at least 30 years? Yeah, pretty 828 01:12:40,018 --> 01:12:46,003 close, OK. OK, thank you. Uh, how about Bridget? Anything unscheduled? 829 01:12:49,025 --> 01:12:54,032 Thank you, Commissioner. Um, just a reminder for you to discuss your, uh, Ben Franklin 830 01:12:54,032 --> 01:13:00,053 Council of Government meeting coming up on Friday. Thank you. Celine, anything unscheduled? 831 01:13:04,005 --> 01:13:07,012 I have nothing, Skip. Thank you. Thank you, David. 832 01:13:10,007 --> 01:13:14,017 Nothing for me today, thank you. Thank you. How about Carolyn? Anything unscheduled? 833 01:13:20,034 --> 01:13:24,055 I do not. Thank you. Thank you, Carolyn. Commissioner, is anything unscheduled? 834 01:13:27,023 --> 01:13:31,075 OK, well, I, I have a, probably a bunch of stuff here. One of them is, I will be 835 01:13:31,075 --> 01:13:35,018 gone on Friday when the Ben Franklin Council of Governments is having their board 836 01:13:35,018 --> 01:13:40,074 meeting and, and, uh, our fellow commissioner will be attending. And there's several 837 01:13:40,074 --> 01:13:47,027 action items on there. I don't know if you've reviewed any of them. Um They're probably 838 01:13:47,027 --> 01:13:51,099 pretty routine things. You can, you can review them. There's, uh, oh jeez, there 839 01:13:51,099 --> 01:13:58,068 must be 200 pages in this. Packet that went out Um, I, if I were you, I would just 840 01:13:58,007 --> 01:14:05,036 take a look at the resolution 0826. 09 26, 1026 and 841 01:14:05,036 --> 01:14:10,096 1126. Those would be the, the resolutions that you'd have to take action on. And 842 01:14:10,096 --> 01:14:14,072 from what I can read in those uh resolutions, I think they're just fine. If I was 843 01:14:14,072 --> 01:14:19,096 there, I would vote positive on, on all of those. But you can take a look at it. 844 01:14:20,005 --> 01:14:25,076 The other thing is we got an email from uh Michelle Holt who says that there's some 845 01:14:25,076 --> 01:14:29,087 group that got message of the Council of Governments meeting and it's, it's about 846 01:14:29,089 --> 01:14:35,008 the, oh, they're the anti, um, what, what is that called, the media things that are 847 01:14:35,008 --> 01:14:41,008 coming data centers, yeah, data centers, and, and they sent out some notice and said 848 01:14:41,017 --> 01:14:46,087 stack that meeting with people. So this morning I talked to Michelle about that and 849 01:14:47,015 --> 01:14:54,091 actually wrote um. Some script for their presiding officer to govern public 850 01:14:54,091 --> 01:14:59,082 comments, but they might have a stack room, and I'm, they're a little worried about 851 01:14:59,084 --> 01:15:05,007 that, but uh I'm sure my fellow commissioner can take care of it just fine. The other 852 01:15:05,007 --> 01:15:11,003 thing I've got is, um, we need to, or I would like to schedule a meeting on the powwow 853 01:15:11,003 --> 01:15:15,027 committee with Fred Hill. He's currently in Norway, but when he comes back, and I 854 01:15:15,046 --> 01:15:20,046 think he said November 6th might be a good date. I don't have it with me, but, uh, 855 01:15:20,059 --> 01:15:24,082 it would be nice if we could have the meeting in the Tri-Cities instead of Pendleton, 856 01:15:24,091 --> 01:15:30,028 but that's gonna kind of depend on Fred. And then a long time ago, I talked about 857 01:15:30,028 --> 01:15:34,079 my good friend Les Minthorne and how he, uh, before he passed, said he'd like to 858 01:15:35,016 --> 01:15:39,012 have me write some kind of publication about how he and I got along and how the board 859 01:15:39,012 --> 01:15:44,043 and the CQI got along. Well, I read a book by a guy named Fred, I think, Fred, no, 860 01:15:44,065 --> 01:15:50,044 Rick Stebert, I think. He's from Prineville, Oregon. He's an author, a pretty recognized 861 01:15:50,044 --> 01:15:54,009 author, and I read this really good book, so I congratulate him on the book. Well, 862 01:15:54,014 --> 01:15:59,034 we got to talking quite a bit and he's very, very interested in taking on this project 863 01:15:59,034 --> 01:16:03,061 and writing this book, and we'd like information. I know you guys have gathered a 864 01:16:03,061 --> 01:16:09,029 lot. I've got a lot, and he said maybe I could take a trip down there with information 865 01:16:09,029 --> 01:16:14,029 and meet him if you guys are willing to move forward with that. But he also told 866 01:16:14,029 --> 01:16:18,069 me in the phone call yesterday that he lost everything in a fire, lost his house, 867 01:16:18,082 --> 01:16:24,007 lost absolutely everything, and he was living in a tent. So he does have a a commercial 868 01:16:24,007 --> 01:16:27,066 building in Prineville, uh some kind of a retail store. I'm not sure what he does, 869 01:16:27,076 --> 01:16:32,086 but um he's he's pretty interested, but he says he wants a lot more information. 870 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,078 So anyway, that's what I've got. Anybody else? Anything, Tim? Yeah, just to follow 871 01:16:38,078 --> 01:16:45,045 up on your data center, and I, I, I'm not speaking with 100% accuracy on this, but 872 01:16:45,098 --> 01:16:51,046 you know, the data center controversy is heating up and we might see these people 873 01:16:51,046 --> 01:16:56,054 come to other jurisdictions. And just wanted to get this out here in advance. My 874 01:16:56,054 --> 01:17:03,097 recollection is that the Port of Kennewick really isn't in the hunt for data centers. 875 01:17:04,019 --> 01:17:08,007 I remember a number of months ago getting a phone call to see from somebody saying, 876 01:17:08,083 --> 01:17:15,003 do we have any property that could be available. And while we have some acreage mainly 877 01:17:15,003 --> 01:17:19,031 in the Finley area that potentially could be available, when I had a chance to visit 878 01:17:19,031 --> 01:17:24,099 with Larry, our planner, and Amber Real Estate, found out that it likely would not 879 01:17:24,099 --> 01:17:29,031 work because the data centers require a lot of electricity. I think the limiting 880 01:17:29,031 --> 01:17:34,051 factor was this property that we have wouldn't have the availability of electricity. 881 01:17:34,006 --> 01:17:39,001 So when I shared that with the person that had interest, you know, the lead went 882 01:17:39,001 --> 01:17:44,021 dead. So I think if people came in here to talk about it. You know, we might save 883 01:17:44,021 --> 01:17:48,041 a little bit of time by letting them know that we likely don't have properties for 884 01:17:48,041 --> 01:17:53,053 this within, you know, in Port of Kennewick Holdings, and I know it's never been 885 01:17:53,053 --> 01:17:56,097 talked about at the commission level, so I would assume that we don't have any interest 886 01:17:56,097 --> 01:18:01,053 in pursuing this, even if we did have property, but again, I don't think we have 887 01:18:01,053 --> 01:18:07,058 property available, uh, and as you see from our budget, our interests in financial. 888 01:18:07,096 --> 01:18:12,061 Um, interests are pledged to other projects, so might save people some time, but 889 01:18:12,061 --> 01:18:15,051 if people want to come in and talk, you know, I suppose you got to let them talk. 890 01:18:15,006 --> 01:18:20,041 But you know, I, I find it a little bit amusing that they're going to talk to Heath 891 01:18:20,008 --> 01:18:24,059 and Heath doesn't have a dog in the fight on the data centers, but it sounds like 892 01:18:24,059 --> 01:18:28,035 they're just wanting to make the rounds. But I want to get a little bit ahead of 893 01:18:28,035 --> 01:18:33,051 this to let folks know that we're not looking in any way, shape or form for data 894 01:18:33,051 --> 01:18:38,005 centers because. A, I don't think there's interest from the commission, and B, I 895 01:18:38,005 --> 01:18:41,057 don't think we have property that would be suitable for that. Tim, thank you for 896 01:18:41,057 --> 01:18:44,069 getting that on the record and putting that out there. And, and you're right, council 897 01:18:44,069 --> 01:18:51,051 of governments that they're, they're going to um Attack maybe Friday has no dog in 898 01:18:51,051 --> 01:18:55,009 the fight either. So I think you're exactly correct. I think they're just trying 899 01:18:55,009 --> 01:18:59,043 to make the rounds everywhere they can. Sure, and just an observation from the peanut 900 01:18:59,043 --> 01:19:05,099 gallery is I don't think Commissioner Novakovic intended to have Commissioner Contreras 901 01:19:05,099 --> 01:19:10,019 take the arrows on this one. I really do think he had an obligation to go to Lewiston 902 01:19:10,019 --> 01:19:13,018 with me, right? That is correct, because I want to hear some more of your stories 903 01:19:13,018 --> 01:19:18,012 or the same ones over again. I'm not sure. Great. Thank you. All right, then we're 904 01:19:18,012 --> 01:19:21,076 in our last session of public comment. If anyone would like to address the commission 905 01:19:21,076 --> 01:19:25,079 on anything, um, we just ask us to state your name, state your residence for the 906 01:19:25,079 --> 01:19:29,071 record, and limit your comments to 3 minutes. Would anyone like to make a public 907 01:19:29,073 --> 01:19:30,006 comment at this time? 908 01:19:33,076 --> 01:19:38,023 All right, I'm seeing none. I don't see anything online. Uh, is there any other business 909 01:19:38,023 --> 01:19:40,044 that needs to come before the commission at this meeting? 910 01:19:43,054 --> 01:19:46,009 Seeing none, then this meeting is adjourned at 3:19. Thank you. 911 01:19:49,007 --> 01:19:50,017 Cal did,