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Board of the City of Port Orchard expressing support in plan for the Port Orchard Community Event Center project. Second. Motion by Council Member Orozepepi, second by Council Member Turnary, to add a business item, which is the resolution of support for the Community Event Center, and it's a funding plan, and I passed that resolution out to the City Council at the Dias. And that came as, as of yesterday, from the public, I have a litany of

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Questions the PFD wanted answered so I don't like to walk things under the agenda

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But I felt this was urgent and I didn't want to wait a couple of weeks to get answers back to the public facilities district board

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So Councilmember deadman go ahead. Yes, I would like to also have the agenda amended

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We'll hold on it. We have a motion and a second on the floor that we're about to vote on

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Yes, to amend the agenda for the resolution of support all on favor of adding that and please say aye

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Hi. Hi. Any post?

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Hearing none. Add has been added. Added is this business item F and you have a proposed amendment?

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Yes.

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I would like to amend the agenda to remove the public hearing on the issue of, oh wait,

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is this a new one? Has it already been taken off? Sorry. Let me look. Oh, sorry. Second page.

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It's different when you see things online.

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The public testimony on proposition number one, for November 3rd, 2026, General Election,

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Kitsap County Public Utilities District number one, Authorized Instruction on Acquisition

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of Electric Facilities.

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The reason I would like to have-

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You've made a motion.

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So I'll second for a sake of discussion.

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The reason I would like to have this public hearing removed from the agenda is because

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Port Orchard Municipal Code Section 2.04.235 states that City Council will not take

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a position on a ballot initiative. And so, while I think hearing from the people is very,

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it's important. It's nice to give people a venue in which to have their thoughts heard.

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It might give them the impression that City Council is able to do anything about that. So,

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So unfortunately by our own laws, we are not allowed to take a position on the ballot

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initiative put forth by KPUD or any ballot if for that matter.

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And you are correct that we are not allowed, the city is not allowed to take a position

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or the city council, but at our previous council meeting, more than one council member in the

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good or the order portion of the meeting directed me to put this on the agenda, so that's

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why it's here this evening.

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I think so. Yes, ma'am.

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Were they aware of because nothing that I saw let the public know or understand that

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the city council is not allowed to take a position on the ballot initiative?

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Were the

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of a public hearing on the issue.

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They should have been, so Councilmember Rosapetti.

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I'm well aware of the rules.

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I was the one to propose that when it was adopted by this,

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this is an informational meeting only,

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and there is no or action be taken by the Kille in accordance with the rules.

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Nothing precludes us from having a public hearing without acting.

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I have a question.

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question.

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Question's been called for.

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The motion on the floor.

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Remove the public hearing from the agenda.

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It has been seconded.

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All in favor of removing the public hearing, please say aye.

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Aye.

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All those opposed?

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Please say aye.

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If you're opposed.

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How would you say nay then?

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No, not in favor.

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Please say nay.

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Nay.

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Okay, okay, that motion fails, six to one.

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I have one more statement.

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Are you wishing to amend the agenda, Father?

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I wanted to, they called the question, but we, I wanted to make,

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oh, I'll bring it up and go to the order, that's fine.

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All right, are there amendments?

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The notice stated that we could make a decision,

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we might make a decision to notice.

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So if we weren't allowed to, people were noticed in some way.

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Now, so if I were for no order, yeah, please wait to be recognized.

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So are there any other amendments to this evening's agenda?

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Councillor Morose, Peppy.

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Mayor, I'd move to approve the agenda as amended.

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Second.

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There's a motion and a second to approve the agenda as amended.

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All in favour?

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Please say aye.

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Aye.

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Anyone opposed?

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Yes.

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You're opposed to the agenda as amended?

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You're opposed?

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Yes, because I didn't include it.

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I don't.

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All right.

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So the approval of the agenda passes 6 to 1.

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We have a published consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

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Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented.

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I'm sorry to interrupt.

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Yes, it is.

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I'll come back to your motion in a second for the consent agenda.

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but we will have our first citizen comment period before we approve the consent agenda.

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Anyone wishing to address the council, you have three minutes.

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And please be mindful of the flashing light for your three minutes.

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And step to the microphone and identify yourself for the record.

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Hello, I'm Heidi Fenton and I live here right in the city.

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All you stole my seat.

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You offered me no due process.

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Yes, because you orchestrated my resignation in order to install a candidate you chose.

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Not one, the people chose, because you unseen the council member, the people chose.

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You stole the people's vote.

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You denied me due process when you kept me out of the executive session in order to hide

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the allegations from me.

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You denied me due process when you ignored my repeated knows that I did not want to resign.

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You denied me due process when I asked for more time and council member Morrissey said,

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no, you have to decide right now.

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You threatened me and my family.

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I did write an email just like the city attorney wanted me to.

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However, I said sorry for the confusion but I am not resigning.

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I was still denied no due process.

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And then you use tax payer funds to pay for outside counsel to cover up your misdeeds.

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You stole my seat, you stole the people's vote, and because you have proven, you have no interest in an open and transparent government,

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the people need to ask the Kitsap County Prosecutor Chad Inwright to bring justice and a lawsuit from a friend of a judge to keep all you accountable.

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Why to preserve the people's vote and do process?

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Yes, this is much bigger than me.

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A resignation should be in an open public meeting, not behind closed doors with no accountability,

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no written statement, no due process, just words of alleged allegations, along with bullying

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and lies, the voters deserve better.

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Thank you.

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There are comments.

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Is there anyone else wishing to address the council this evening in our first citizen comment period?

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Hello.

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My name is Laura Rarrow.

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I am a Port Order resident.

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I am concerned about the Senior Day Center program at the Old Gibbons Community Center.

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The selling of a Kitsap County property next June, supposedly, is a great concern to our senior citizens

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of Port Orchard City. I attended the town hall last week and my takeaway wasn't what I had

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expected from my city council. I would expect the council to be more agreeable and willing

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to support our seniors. It sounds like the seniors have a temporary solution by using the

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on a temple and are asking for support to pay the rental fee.

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Ironically, tonight, we will hear about the efforts to raise $4.1 million for the

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Community Events Center.

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Obviously, the Council have community connections that could get this done.

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I heard the possibility of a work-study group to investigate these concerns.

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If the council is committed to serving our community, then all hands on deck should be conveyed

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to our seniors, not that these concern parties need to go to a county commissioner meeting

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to have their concerns addressed.

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The upcoming presentation even has a slide about how will the new facility be used throughout

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about the day and how many community members will it serve each year?

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The senior day center requirements better be addressed in this new facility.

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And the council should assist in finding the funds or grant money to pay for

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the Masonic Temple rental fees while we wait for the new center to be built.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And if you stand at the end of the meeting, I've got an update on this topic in my mayors

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report.

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Anyone else wishing to address the council?

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How about anybody online?

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If you use the raise your hand feature, the clerk would bring you into the meeting.

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Tony, you're able to speak now.

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Good evening, everyone.

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Tony, I want local journalists, so I want to speak tonight on here for the September 8th.

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at the special here. Again, I agree with council for dead men. Am I harder speaking about

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beginning of the meeting. The issue that I have right now is that you guys weren't supposed to

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talk about it being on the ballot at all. And City Attorney Archer let you know that back in the

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meeting before and you said, well, okay, we're just going to go ahead and put it on the minutes

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or on the future meeting to talk about the KPUD,

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but you all agreed in 2023,

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not to weigh in on anything on the ballot.

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And then you solidified that last year

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by not changing that city ordinance.

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And so I made a PDC complaint about you guys talking

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about the very issue even after attorney Archer had said,

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you guys need to stop talking about it. So I made a PDC complaint and which you guys responded

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that you knew that you probably shouldn't talk about it so you're not. We're going to have a

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public hearing on it. But the public hearing, even though it is legal by RCW, it is still against the

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city ordinance. It says that on your new thing, it says you'll conduct a public hearing to receive

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you testimony for consideration following the hearing that City Council may consider whether

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to support or oppose the ballot proposition. I would just like to remind you guys that

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the City Council will not endorse or oppose a campaign for election or any person to any

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office for the promotion or opposition to any ballot proposition placed on a ballot for

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the vote of the people. That's the municipal code. Please obey your

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own rules. I wrote an article about this. I will follow up after tonight's meeting. I feel

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people are expecting the council to weigh in and you really can't weigh in. That's against

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your own rules. And so I feel like you're just doing a little bit of a cleanup. I get it, but I

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think it waste people's time because people are expecting you guys to support their side of it

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against KPUD and you really can't.

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So I feel like it's disingenuous.

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If a mistake happens, just own the mistake.

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Don't continue down and double down on it, you know.

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I know you guys are trying really hard

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to do the right thing all the time.

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Sometimes some mistakes happen, just own it.

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But don't continue down the same path.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your comments.

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I will, since you brought up the public's disclosure

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commission complaint, I haven't had a chance

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Chancellor forwarded out to the council yet, but I have heard back from the public disclosure commission and they found that we did nothing wrong, so they didn't agree with the complaint.

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Anyone else address the convening in our first citizen comment period?

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I'm going to close the first citizen comment period and we have a motion on the floor related to our consent.

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agenda. Councillor Medina, I believe made that motion. Councillor Morsey made the second to approve the consent agenda as presented. All in favor, please say aye. I want to post. Hearing none, the consent agenda passes unanimously. We have two presentations tonight. Both of them are related to the community center. The first is by Brad Thomas, and he is going to give a presentation about the feasibility study.

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that he is conducted on the city's behalf, related to a fundraising campaign for the community center.

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So Brad, you have the floor.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Council members, you have an executive summary next to your laptops.

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It's kind of a combined executive summary.

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There's one in the feasibility study, there's a phase one report and a phase two proposal.

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And so just to kind of simplify it all, hey, this is on your desk, if you like to read it, if you haven't read all three proposals.

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I'm going to jump in with the presentation.

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Any event center on the front, the first significant in development?

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Maybe the second, and that we have a new apartment building on the waterfront in Port Orchard.

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So this really be the second in 50 years.

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The steering committee and thank you to the mayor for helping recruit the first nine steering committee members.

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You can see we have a nice variety of business owners, three downtown business owners, business leaders.

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And so just we have 14 additional five came from the steering committee interviews.

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And so, thank you, if you are on this list, it's a great group to help kind of, if we move forward with a full-camp capital campaign as a great group of community leaders to help us achieve the $4.1 million that was already mentioned.

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So, next slide please.

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Introductions, this kind of reminds me of begin with the end in mind.

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And so really referencing, hey, what really makes a capital campaign successful?

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And it's really our ability to go out and establish relationships with prospective donors.

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And so the steering committee will play a critical role with the city council.

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We have about 1,500 prospects, and really we've narrowed that list down to two different lists.

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125 potential donor prospects came from the 36 steering committee meetings.

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So people kind of suggesting who we might follow up with.

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And then we purchased a list of 1,500 names of people who are charitable here in Port Orchard in South Kitsap County.

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And then we just took the best, the strongest 100 from that list.

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So really, you have 225 potential donors who may give the next or two to this campaign.

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Next slide, please.

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So count capital campaigns work.

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The first year is a quiet phase where you're really focused on the top 66 prospects on the right over there,

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of 20th, who have the ability to give, but potential three year commitment of $25,000 or more,

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you kind of focus on them first.

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You want to go out, get their advice, and on the project, and see what their excitement is for this project.

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There's another 66 donors between 5,000 and 24,999 that are also very important.

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I mean, at the end of the day, everybody's important to a new community event center.

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The point is, most of this money will be raised from major donors.

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Some of it will be raised from companies in the foundations, and

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all these prospects we're talking about are all three constituent groups to make this thing wildly successful.

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And so next slide,

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oh, thank you.

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It looks so much like the last slide, I fooled myself.

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So, hey, the quiet phase, you go out and have those, and really out of the 225 prospects, if we could get 150, 140 meetings over the next six months, that would look like.

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And out of those 150, if it boils down to really 25 of those higher level donors and another 15 of the mid-level donors between five and 24,000, so that's where the initial focus is.

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And once we get to that 70% mark $2.8 million, that's the time when we really kind of broadcast

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a Imagine Port Orchard capital campaign to the public.

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And there initially would be kind of an update to the community in the next two or three

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months if we move forward with this capital campaign on the update and the timeline of construction.

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So people know what's going on, whether, you know, and we have a sign down there that kind of eludes to that.

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But really just, and you will see some of the findings from the study, so I won't get ahead of myself.

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But there's just a great need to update the community on this project in general.

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And kind of leave the fundraising part out of that, it's my community, so get to those 150 perspectives.

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Next slide please.

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Port Orchard's strong, strong sense of community, everybody, especially here for a

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generate two or three. Obviously, there's a lot of new people moving to

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Port Orchard, and we would count on their support for this capital campaign as

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well. Next slide. And if you see a quoted here, it came from somebody we

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interviewed. We didn't add their names because, you know, I, hey, that's just

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I want to let you know that's where these quotes came from is one of these 36 people.

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Out of the 36 people on this list that we interviewed on the left hand side,

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the local business owners and business leaders, nine of them were business owners,

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nine of them were business leaders.

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On the public officials, seven of them were, actually four, we interviewed four of you,

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two department heads, Orrin Rutt, our county commissioners area,

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other look official. Out of the community leaders, all of them are retired, two of them are still business leaders and one of them still a business owner.

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Next slide, please.

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Oh, if you think about 30x feasibility study interviews, we probably averaged four pays of meeting notes per interview, 144 pages of data that we had to kind of figure out, hey, what were the themes?

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What were the trends?

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And so these are the six philanthropic history, okay?

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The degree with South Kits app, business owners and people are

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charitable and inclined.

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So that rated a six, so fairly strong.

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You have South Kits app help line, go ahead.

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Is this on the, thank you, yeah, thank you, John, our Commissioner

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or Councilor Morrissey, yes, great point, yes, a scale 1 to 10.

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And so, project awareness is the second one there.

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How well does the community know about the project and where it's at?

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And so this rates the lowest just because this project was approved seven years ago.

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You, the City Council, and including the mayor and leaders here in the city have been

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working at generating 80% of the funding over those last six or seven years and so really that's why there hasn't been great communication.

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We have actually a plan to get this from a 5.4 to a 7.4 here in the next two or three months in our feasibility study report.

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Trust for civic leadership, this one scored a 6.1 so it's one of those that hey this is good.

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It's a solid score, obviously, you get 36 people.

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It doesn't matter if they're just ran.

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And we pick these people fairly randomly that we selected to interview.

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So this is a pretty good mix.

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Community enthusiasm, the level of genuine excitement for

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the Port Orchard Community Event Center at 6.5.

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That's, you know, you'll see some findings quoted here in just a second on the next slide.

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Goal, Achieveability, the likelihood of achieving the capital campaign success, raising

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4.1 and a C3.

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You know, sometimes you'd like to see a little bit higher than that, but Nate Hershey, my business

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partner and I just let it help lead a $4 million campaign in East Grace Harbor County,

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which is an area of 20,000 people and when we did the feasibility study coming out of that and then we began the campaign

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there was probably three or four people in the whole East Graves Harbor County that thought we could raise

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$3 million. Well less than two years later we had to raise $4 million and so in such a small rule area

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I am super confident that we can raise $4 million for an outstanding first-class community events center

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here in Port Orchard. In the last one, leadership readiness, steering committee, city council,

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and Northwest Philanthropic partners is 6.5. I adjusted this from the feasibility study

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just looking at and thinking about it. It's like, hey, we're ready, in my opinion, and so that's why

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that got adjusted here in the last week or two. So, next slide, please.

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97% of the interviews support the project, 65% of the interviews regarding the global is attainable, go ahead.

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37% of the interviews had concerns about how the building would be used during the day, outside of rentals.

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And so obviously lots of rentals in the evening, on the weekends, and some through the day, what else?

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I want to know what the building would be used for, next slide please.

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This is really important with those top tiered owners, let's say if they're going to think about giving $250,000 or more, they really want to know, and others want to know how this project would align with a 30 year vision for the city of Port Orchard, and how will it help transform downtown in the waterfront, and so they're just looking for a little more compelling vision.

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And that's some of Pacific Medical Center, their vision to give you an idea, is to help create the healthiest community in the nation.

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It's pretty bold, and so that's, I think people are looking for a bold vision, that in that way this would align with that, so we'll go ahead and next slide.

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And this is our comprehensive plan for the city of Port Orchard, and it's kind of an attempt at some form of a vision.

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But I think we can do a lot better, if we got all the business leaders, especially in downtown.

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community members, city councilors, all together for a couple hours, I know we could come up with a stronger, more compelling vision.

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Next slide, programs, we've kind of already alluded to this, how many people would be served by the community events and

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to kind of quantify that, both through rentals and hopefully programs for seniors and youth.

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Next slide, please.

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A committee chair, super important that we have kind of a committee chair who is a business

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and community leader who would lead by example, by being very generous and charitable, a unifying

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voice well known as a community leader who had gone on leaders work from individuals, companies

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and foundations. So it's super important to the success of this campaign slide, please.

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Committedly the steering committee I believe is 100% committed to city council, it's important

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that we have almost 100% if not 100% from the city council as well and the city directors

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and leaders.

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I was like we need everybody to be willing to help volunteer and hopefully give financially

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as well.

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So these are a key success for any good capital campaign, next slide.

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Port Orchard is a community with residents who genuinely believed this community event center and would want it to succeed.

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And the last slide is,

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let's bring a first class Port Orchard, hey, let's bring Port Orchard together to support our new community event center.

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And with that, are there any questions about the feasibility study, phase one report, or phase two?

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And just to Brad's point there, the community center has rooms available to use during the day.

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But there aren't any rooms dedicated to a specific group or entity.

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And so it's probably, well, there could be a yoga class in there, or other activities.

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And who knows what programs could be brought when we have a Parks and

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Ricks, levy supporting staff to do, to provide those staff.

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But there's nothing preventing the private sector from a yoga instructor,

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somebody renting a room down there.

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Because we have rooms in space, and I think much of the use is going to be in the evening's events.

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this weekend's weddings and things of that nature, so I just wanted to address that one image that's been poked at a couple of times there.

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And next steps really in this, this is Brad bringing the feasibility step forward and phase one.

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Right now, and Noah's going to follow Brad here with a presentation that the Finance Committee saw.

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Two months ago, ahead of the public facility's district meeting,

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no one I gave a presentation to the public facility's district.

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Update on the community center and the funding plan, our expectation was that the next meeting that they were going to draft an ILA. And they didn't have any questions that evening for NOAA and I, but they had a series of questions at that next meeting. And so in one of the points they made, they've never seen a formal resolution for nozzles in sports pro. So that's the item. I just leave that.

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Yeah, a weekend, those questions I work on the most of the day and I'm hopeful to get their questions answered by the end of the week.

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They're likely going to then hold a special meeting.

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We really have to have this funding agreement in place, and the ILA, that's step one before we can jump forward with a fundraising campaign to get us over the finish line.

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All right, so questions for Brad about his feasibility study or next steps, Kess, Council

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Moell.

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Yeah, not so much a question, Brad, but thank you for all the work you've been doing.

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I know I met with you with the amount of interviews that you've already spent time doing

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and whatnot, and it wasn't a five minute interview.

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Well, as long as we have like an August 15 deadline with definition of all, well, we actually

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He did five after the deadline, which is because a couple of you would like.

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And one of our steering, two of our steering committee members kind of contacted me after the deadline and said, hey, can you do a couple more, and then I met Orn wrote recently, recently, and so we interviewed him here last week and so yeah, thank you.

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I appreciate you for all the work and time that you put into it, so thank you.

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Councilmember Rose Peppie.

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Brad, Eric's comments.

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Thank you very much.

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What you're doing, we're just starting the race

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and we'll get to the finish line.

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I hadn't thought about this till now.

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Libraries going in down below.

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Are they running as similar?

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Are we running parallel with them?

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Are we keeping in touch?

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Or are we doing completely separate?

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It's a great question.

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There's a point towards the end on the new executive summary

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in front of you that kind of alludes to that.

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And so we met with Wendy and somebody helped me out.

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Hey, so we met with the Kitsap Regional Library Foundation twice, along with,

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and I know that this is kind of a similar partnership, the Kitsap Community Foundation

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would be the agency, physical agency for this project, and we met with them twice.

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So yes, hey, and then to finish your question or to finish the answer to your question,

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And the answer is they're doing a $2 million capital campaign.

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They have started, I don't know, a year ago.

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And then they restarted here a few months ago.

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So they're trying to raise $2 million at the same time that we would be raising $4 million.

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We kind of committed to continuing meeting monthly for as long as these campaigns go.

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Just to make sure we are kind of working together and not competing.

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even sharing lead donors, and we'll ask some of their donors, but they'll know that, and we'll go into those meetings by thanking that donor first and then having a conversation.

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So anyway, it's a great question and thank you.

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No, I know sometimes double banging can be people don't like that, and doing that, I think it's the right way to go, so thank you.

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And we actually have a steering committee member who also sits on their committee, and she kind of looked at both prospect list.

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And there was only about 20 crossovers donors, and so out of 225, that's not very many, but we'll be really mindful of kind of working together.

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We purposely have three members that are on both committees because we know that we have to work together and not against each other.

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Yes.

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That was very purposeful.

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And before I added those members that were already on their committee, I met with Jason Driver and E and I are in lockstep on that.

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That it's important that we have overlap.

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So Councillor Mitchell.

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Thank you so much.

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I wanted to first again, as some others have said, thank you for all the work that you put in here.

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It was very instructive for me to read through all the materials because I, having never been

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a part of a capital campaign before, was just really fascinated at how meticulously planned

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a campaign can really be that will hopefully be successful. And because it's sort of a newer concept

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to me, phases are breaking it down into like the phase one, the quiet phase, and then the phase two.

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I wasn't quite sure where the prospects, especially our higher level donors, were those phase one or were those phase two where they will be proposition for those donations.

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So a great question and it will be in the beginning of phase one and so really that second steering committee will hopefully will be the beginning of October and that will be a good half hour conversation.

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Who could potentially give a quarter, half million, a million, to put a name on the building?

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There's been some conversations without me even saying anything to one of our partners who's had a couple conversations with a couple of their donors.

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So one of those things, there, after a E2 steering committee meeting, this thing will really get going in the first three, four months.

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But yeah, it's a great question.

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And for those of both of you, I put a case for support on your desk.

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And that case for support, we've got really good feedback in the feasibility study period.

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And so that will be updated.

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And so we had a couple of two community members who we interviewed in one spouse who gave us like professor English type of feedback.

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And so anyway, it will be updated and

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improved if we move forward with the campaign.

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And I just have like one more question.

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So just because I understand that sometimes who are able to

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give at the levels that are kind of pointed out in here,

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appreciate some privacy.

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And because this is a public process,

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I just wanted to just double check and make sure, like,

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Like do those donors become only publicly known once their name goes on a wall somewhere

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or like how are we protecting the privacy of the individuals who are potentially going

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into this and supporting this project.

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Hey, that's a great question.

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And we will make sure that these names don't get shared in a book meeting like this and

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And we'll work with the mayor and others to make sure that doesn't happen because you're right.

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Donor privacy is critically important for this.

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And yes, hopefully that will be the first time that you'll see a donor's name on no list,

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but really on the donor wall at the new community event center.

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So great, great call out and thank you for that.

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That's Bernardina.

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Yeah, I'll keep mine short.

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Thank you very much for meeting with me.

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Like others have said, it was very valuable.

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But for me, this is literally my first rodeo of something of this scale.

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And so I appreciate you taking the time and helping walk through that with me and breaking it down for me.

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So thank you very much for taking a firm out of time out of your day to do that.

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I appreciate it.

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Thank you for your presentation.

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All the work you've done so far.

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A couple of things for me, you can update that slide.

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Wendy Kyle, Jason Driver, those are community leaders that you're working with.

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Add those to the list as well as Tino, Brian, and all the people you're having conversations with in our county.

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So, I think this is a great start, a great place to go.

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When I total these all up, they are total more than there were goal in our, I assume you did that on purpose.

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Talk to me about how we as a whole might connect them.

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Are we planning on doing something on our website, do we need to get some cards and carrying for you?

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I want to be prepared to help this process in any way, shape, or form so that I can, how can we help you?

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Yeah, so that's a great question, so I'm going to answer that part.

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So right there, imagine Port Orchard.

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You guys did that work about six years ago, roughly.

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And so hey, if you don't know, there's an Imagine Port Orchard website.

433
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There's an Imagine Port Orchard video.

434
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:56,060
Hey, our proposal is all that will get updated in the next two to three months.

435
00:38:56,780 --> 00:39:00,200
And so that would be part of that communication plan to the community.

436
00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:07,060
And then I'm hoping that any and all city council members will join us at either the next

437
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,200
steering committee meeting at the beginning of October or the one following that and just

438
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,800
be of the process and help us find your friends, your neighbors, people who you may, and a lot

439
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,020
A lot of times we don't know if they're charitable and client.

440
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:25,460
We have to go meet with them, share the case for support, talk about the project,

441
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,180
and then we'll find out in a meeting or two.

442
00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:34,680
And so, introduction meetings, helping us with introduction meetings, and then even cultivation meetings after that.

443
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:40,200
And so, I just realized, hey, I don't know where the money's gonna come from.

444
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:47,900
That last campaign we did for $4 million, like here in rural America, I had no idea whether it's gonna be corporate,

445
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:53,420
foundation money, major donors, because when we started that last campaign, there were no major donors.

446
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,640
So kind of like this, you see the poor orchard has no donors, right?

447
00:39:57,740 --> 00:40:02,200
So this prospect list is super important to this success of this campaign.

448
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:07,160
So my guess is that we might get a million dollars from foundations and companies, and

449
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,920
another three million dollars from major donors.

450
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,020
I've been doing this for 38 years, so that's a pretty good educated estimate.

451
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:24,680
But hey, if we get an unusual state grant for a million dollars, obviously we're going to blow past what I just said.

452
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,820
I don't know where it's going to come from.

453
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:31,740
We got in rule, we got over a million dollars in corporate funding.

454
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:34,980
But some of it was managed from heaven.

455
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:40,540
And so, but so at the end of the day, I've done this, you know, to meet my fifth capital campaign.

456
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,760
So, I have a good idea where the money will come from.

457
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:46,760
I just, you know, I'm not sure exactly.

458
00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:47,340
So.

459
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:55,160
And it's kind of like a follow-up then on that I'm not going to get this term from leadership readiness.

460
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Yes.

461
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,920
6.5, right?

462
00:40:58,380 --> 00:40:58,460
Yes.

463
00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:00,060
So, tell me about that number.

464
00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:01,060
What is 6.5?

465
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,800
My interpretation sounds like we're 65% ready if we're on a scale.

466
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:13,200
of 10, and maybe that's not what it is, but give me some of that color, and if that's not what it is, how do we get that to a 10?

467
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,160
Yeah, and that's a great question.

468
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:21,780
So a couple things, you know, I need to meet with the City Council and numbers that I haven't met with.

469
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:29,940
As soon as we get that new contract for phase two signed, so that's number one, number two, getting that committee chair, right?

470
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:35,080
And so, over the next, hopefully, 30 days we'll get that right person to help lead this effort.

471
00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:38,160
I totally lost train of thought.

472
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,580
So, tell me the question again.

473
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,420
So, we're not at a 6.5.

474
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Oh, 6.5?

475
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:43,560
Yeah, thank you.

476
00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:44,780
A 6.5 for leadership.

477
00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:46,900
Steering committee, I feel, it was like an endane.

478
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:47,500
Yeah.

479
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,640
And when I say that, now go ahead, let's call them at 8.

480
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,720
Hey, they're at 8.

481
00:41:51,780 --> 00:41:54,040
Do I get recruit to be part of this?

482
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,820
And I think we, I need to go out and kind of solidify that, hey, this is a fund rate.

483
00:41:57,820 --> 00:42:08,040
I mean, they all know it's a $4 million capital campaign, but just to answer their questions like I'm answering your questions now, I need to do that with all of these steering committee members.

484
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:20,920
So that will get that score up a little higher, and then I think a Northwest philanthropist partners were at 10, we're ready to go, we're excited about this, so that's how we get that up to a 9.

485
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:28,380
Right, a couple of tools we have in our toolbox too, remember the naming rights, so we've got that available to us.

486
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,100
And Brianna and I met last week and I've already had conversations with our senator and

487
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:42,440
number, our legislative agenda that you guys will see in two weeks will have a million dollars asked from the capital.

488
00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:53,160
And if we get $7.50, I think that will be a wind and that will go into that $4 million that we're looking to raise.

489
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:59,720
So we got a couple of things out there that we're pretending to add to this process.

490
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:03,020
Any other questions for Brad?

491
00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:04,480
Thank you, Brad.

492
00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:05,060
Thank you.

493
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,140
Thanks, Brad.

494
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:36,000
Okay, NOAA is now going to give the finance committee as I alluded to earlier, saw this presentation, he's just updated the need on it, and then NOAA and I gave this same presentation to the public facilities district at their end of June, and so this is just, I know that Councillor Mitchell and Councillor Member Deadman, they in particular haven't been around in this process, so it's probably useful information

495
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,840
So this is a rendering of the community center, it's a 24,000 square foot facility.

496
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:47,300
The bottom floor is the new branch up regional library, and

497
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:51,400
the second floor is event space and meeting rooms.

498
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,680
And it's located where the current Kitsat Bank building sits.

499
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:06,060
and hopefully it'll be co-related, look, the Orchard Strait Pazzo will be co-located next to it.

500
00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:22,220
We've been in conversations and we've seen presented renderings of this two-story topographical map that shows Sinclair Inlet

501
00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:29,680
and it has a historic Native American sites on it and we're really excited about this

502
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,180
this art feature that you'll see at the entryway and from the second floor also.

503
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:40,220
And then the City Council was very passionate about having a

504
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:26,880
And so, that was a significant add, it's got about a half a million dollar price tag to that sculpture. But that is a rendering of what the cracken on the backside of the library on the water side. That's the pathway in front of the building. And the water is, we're standing in the water, I guess, or sitting in a boat, looking back at the community center.

505
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:35,200
So, and this is the master plan that we've been working on for years for downtown.

506
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:37,920
You've got the top left corner is the community center.

507
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,900
The Marina pump station has been built surrounding all of that is the orchard trade plaza,

508
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,580
which will be the home for our farmers market.

509
00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:53,260
It was envisioned that it was going to build their new headquarters in the right hand corner

510
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:55,240
of this rendering there.

511
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:57,940
And of course that isn't going to happen.

512
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,620
Heritage bank, they've sold the Heritage Bank.

513
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:07,240
But the entitlements are in place for that three story building.

514
00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:13,500
And they have value and the bank is marketing that property and

515
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:18,060
their property across the street, where our master prying effort

516
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:25,080
is envisions a two-story parking garage and residential towers sitting on top of that.

517
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:32,340
So, I'm not sure what else I've got, so this, as we all know, every November about March,

518
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,700
if we, when we have king tides, and if we get rain on that same day, we get water flooding

519
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:46,160
the roadway, and so next year we'll be constructing a new roadway, we're going to raise the road

520
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,980
a foot and a half, and actually I'm talking about the road, but this slide's about the

521
00:46:52,200 --> 00:47:01,120
So that happens when you're across the room, but now we've got the road project and so we're going to rebuild the road.

522
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:11,720
The underground, the power, replace all the utilities and build the road a foot and a half taller so that the flooding won't be an issue any longer.

523
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:17,680
So, and this is where NOAA is going to take over and talk about the funding plan that

524
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,540
we detailed with the Public Facilities District and hope to gain your support of.

525
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:23,640
Yeah, thank you Mayor.

526
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,540
So again, the following slides were provided to the BFD.

527
00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:28,920
We have nice presentation.

528
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,360
And I think what was important about the presentation is it's really investment in three large

529
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,540
major projects.

530
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:37,540
The community events there is SMA roughly 35 million.

531
00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:43,820
in the plaza with another $5.4 and then the base reconstruction $13.0 million for a total

532
00:47:43,820 --> 00:47:49,560
of roughly $55 million in this part of the city. So significant investment in downtown

533
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:56,360
poor orchard. When we met with the PFT part of the meeting was to give them update on the

534
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:02,280
project but also to make a poor additional ask as we finally got some updated project costs

535
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,540
and identified a funding gap where the PFT could step in and assist.

536
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,500
The request was roughly for $4.2 million of additional funding,

537
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:22,580
$3 million of which would be in cash, a part of this proposal would then have the city use its LTGO debt capacity to issue the bonds to fund the project.

538
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,700
The total commitment from the KPFT would be about $22.7 million.

539
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:34,400
Again, that's based on their ability to provide 60% of the toll bus.

540
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:47,580
I think it's something though, before you move on there Noah, while they're $7 million in debt being issued by the city, the public facilities district through our ILA will be making the payments on that debt.

541
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:55,720
And that's the same structure that Paul's Bo has put in place for their new perk project, where the Paul's Bo issued the debt.

542
00:48:55,720 --> 00:49:02,460
that public facilities district has a contract that for the payment of that debt.

543
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:08,760
Yes, the accountant against our bond and netted it, yes.

544
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,700
That's a very good point, Mayor, and it will count against our debt capacity.

545
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,260
And part of the calculation that they are doing is what kind of debt burden can their sales tax provide.

546
00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:26,760
So they're financial advisors doing that calculation to see if $17 million at a 20-year financing's

547
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,280
supportable by their tax source.

548
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,360
Again, all of that will be outlined with the ILA where they'll make the revenue commitment towards the debt.

549
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,840
Dr. Cacker, where'd we come up with $35.5?

550
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,320
That's a new number for this project at this point.

551
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:43,560
No, it's not.

552
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:47,080
It's the total for the design.

553
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:53,860
The building itself constructs is 25 million, which has been a number since 2023.

554
00:49:55,220 --> 00:50:00,480
It's actually went down 300,000, but we've got the construction cost, the design cost.

555
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:14,220
One major change from the very beginning was we thought when we started the design, that the sea wall that's there right now would stay.

556
00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:31,900
But the engineers determined that the seawall when the bank building is holding up the seawall when the bank building is in which this isn't new information that's been shared previously and probably not with everybody in the room, it won't stand by itself.

557
00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:43,020
So I think the numbers two and a half million dollars for the seawall replacement and then there was envisioned public art, but not a half a million dollar cracking.

558
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:49,540
And so that's an additional cost to get to that total of the 35.

559
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:55,480
Yeah, and your timing's perfect, Councilmember Morsi, because we have a project budget on the

560
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,060
same slide on the use of funds kind of detailing out exec that the mayor went through.

561
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,520
So we have multiple phases to this project.

562
00:51:01,820 --> 00:51:05,800
Again, the acquisition phase, acquiring the bank's site, roughly $3.5 million.

563
00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:08,340
Again, we're in this design phase at $2.5 million.

564
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:12,020
Then you get the construction of the facility, construction of the seawall.

565
00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:18,180
the public art and then a little bit for contingency as we've learned with all projects it's very

566
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:22,480
important to have a little contingency built into your toll project budget. So that's how we

567
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,680
round off to the total $35.5 million. Based on our, again, our engineers recent estimates.

568
00:51:34,340 --> 00:51:37,700
I'm just going to say you're not going to get a bigger fan of this project, right? You know I was on

569
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:44,160
the PFD. I helped get the additional funding, right? That's how we got from 12 million to 18 million

570
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,180
in PFD funding, and that's because price is escalated.

571
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,300
I've never seen a price tag with this with $35 million on it.

572
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:53,260
So that's the same slide we shared with the five committee.

573
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,540
I'm sure to say, I understand it's updating.

574
00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:00,820
I didn't get the question at the time, but at some point we got an update.

575
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,720
I don't know when we jumped from in the 20s to in the 30, because that would have been

576
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,140
the first time I saw it, I didn't ask that question at that time.

577
00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:08,340
I will admit to that.

578
00:52:08,740 --> 00:52:12,300
I just, I didn't think twice about it until I went.

579
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:16,100
the construction cost is $25 million and has been for about three years.

580
00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:21,320
And it might be, it depends on how you talk about the project, because if you ignore the initial acquisition phase,

581
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,240
you're ignoring $3.5 million that we've invested in the product.

582
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,220
You're only focused on the $25 million of construction.

583
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,560
I'm looking at as a total project, like what did this project?

584
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:38,160
I am too, that's, again, that's how I wanted, how we got to that number because our initial ask of the PFD was based off of the total number.

585
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,360
And so 66% to get us a 12 million, you know, we've grown, right?

586
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:50,440
Like this project, just so folks know, I know the folks are here for our Senior Center as well, right?

587
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,320
Like this has been on almost 10 year project and has now doubled in cost.

588
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:01,400
So it's just super tricky getting stuff done within government, it doesn't go fast.

589
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:11,660
I am super appalled that I had the decision and voted on funding for this completely on another end, years and years and years ago.

590
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Now here we are, so that's how these things, I was curious how we got to that point.

591
00:53:15,460 --> 00:53:18,460
One of the questions from the PFD is how we got to this number.

592
00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:29,440
Also, and part of that answer to that is, when a matching port orchard happened and the community went to there, we had an idea.

593
00:53:30,060 --> 00:53:43,500
Okay, we had no, and we didn't, they didn't, the community didn't know what a 24,000 square foot building and property acquisition and design was going to cost and we were way off.

594
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:57,340
And I will tell you while I wasn't on that decision phase, I came in directly after the project was written on the PFD, I think the PFD has since learned and would have done things differently, knowing what they know today.

595
00:53:57,340 --> 00:54:00,260
I don't know that we would be funded back then.

596
00:54:00,860 --> 00:54:05,140
I'm super happy we did, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm going to take advantage of that today.

597
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:06,800
I'm just curious on how we got there.

598
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,800
So I won't be able to remember, go ahead.

599
00:54:09,380 --> 00:54:14,580
I just had a quick question, looking at the cost as John has.

600
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:21,860
My concern is the contingency at a million dollar, the appropriate level, with way

601
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:29,720
construction costs go up and down I'm used to usually seeing about a 10% but I will defer to the

602
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:36,040
experts in this case. It's just something that is is of concern to me when we're looking for an

603
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:41,680
accurate number. Fair question. We aren't unlike City Hall, we're not remodeling, we're

604
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:50,160
and construction and so we hope it's enough and we don't have an unintended consequences.

605
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,260
Council member, go ahead.

606
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:56,260
Yeah, has the Dr. Ryan C-Wall ordered and designed and is it in permittance?

607
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:56,500
Yes.

608
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,420
Yep.

609
00:54:59,220 --> 00:54:59,520
It is.

610
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,260
We are waiting on Miss Archer.

611
00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:03,760
Have we gotten that final?

612
00:55:04,060 --> 00:55:04,200
No.

613
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:09,860
We're staying on one document from the Army Corps but all the permits have been applied for.

614
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,980
It's in to review with the Army Corps and we're very, they've extended it twice.

615
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,600
The Army Corps has just their backlog, but we're very close.

616
00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:24,390
Okay, let me go ahead Mr. Crowder.

617
00:55:25,130 --> 00:55:28,030
So moving on, I think it's important to review the funding sources.

618
00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:33,010
So when we look at the total project funding sources, we contributed roughly $1 million

619
00:55:33,010 --> 00:55:37,690
from the general fund, where we're relying heavily on our parking pack fees, $4 million.

620
00:55:38,610 --> 00:55:39,570
The kids asked for a parking packer.

621
00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:41,090
Can you make sure you're speaking in your microphone?

622
00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:42,850
We're not picking it up, be it real good.

623
00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:46,310
Just make sure you get your mind closer to it.

624
00:55:46,850 --> 00:55:47,650
All right, we'll try it this way.

625
00:55:48,790 --> 00:55:55,190
So the general fund, roughly a million dollars, again, park in fact fees, big contribution, $4.1 million.

626
00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:57,750
Kits out regional lab committed to $10 million.

627
00:55:58,470 --> 00:56:00,910
So that's a big effort that they're going to come through with.

628
00:56:01,670 --> 00:56:05,330
We have a state grant, recreation office for $500,000.

629
00:56:05,690 --> 00:56:10,090
Department of Commerce has already committed to the $1.2 million part of the purchase phase,

630
00:56:10,090 --> 00:56:21,770
the acquisition phase, and now we're looking with a KPFD for a combination of cash on hand as well as the revenue streamed issue of the debt to round out the risk of the project.

631
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:29,410
We have a little bit reserved here, the $879,000, a part of the fundraising efforts for the Community Vent Center portion of this project.

632
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:33,390
A larger portion of that fundraising efforts is going to go towards the plaza.

633
00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:39,090
So I guess before I move on from plaza, any questions on the funding sources here identified?

634
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:42,050
This is for the community center itself.

635
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:51,770
So I'm sure you covered this, but the foundation, the money that Brad's raising, where would

636
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:53,550
that be in here?

637
00:56:53,770 --> 00:56:54,650
It's a separate line.

638
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:59,050
It's the last row of fundraisers for roughly $880,000.

639
00:56:59,090 --> 00:56:59,290
Okay.

640
00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:00,650
And then we got the plaza.

641
00:57:00,710 --> 00:57:02,830
The plaza is the largest portion of the fundraisers effort.

642
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:03,510
Of that side.

643
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:03,970
Okay.

644
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:04,810
So as the-

645
00:57:04,810 --> 00:57:05,610
Another slide coming.

646
00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:06,190
Okay.

647
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:09,490
I've seen it, I just didn't know where it was at.

648
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:10,750
Thank you.

649
00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:20,990
And I just want to point here at the KPFD, they've very committed and paid out roughly $2.7 million in cash as a part of the design efforts and the acquisition phase.

650
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:25,830
So that $3 million of additional cash is shown up here in this $5.7 million proposal.

651
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:33,920
Again, the plazas estimate roughly $5.4 million for

652
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:42,960
4.1 million are for construction, we're done with design, so here are 40,000, and then a little bit for contingency for a $5.4 million project budget.

653
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:51,180
On the sourcing side, again, a big commitment from the general fund at $1.2 million, park impact fees are capped at $1.5 million.

654
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:59,460
With the, again, fundraising efforts, the $2.7 million, that's where the other big chunk of funding has come in from for this part project.

655
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:26,700
And it may not be realistic to go to a bid with the clause at the same time that that's our goal, and it'll really depend too on we're going to have an alternate and if we get good bids, then we'll figure this portion of that out, but it'd be unfortunate if we had to wait on that a couple of years and build the community's fraction cycles.

656
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:28,680
So, I don't remember, Dean, or did you?

657
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,320
You just answered my question, thank you.

658
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:31,780
Councilor Morsey.

659
00:58:31,940 --> 00:58:36,440
Yeah, what's the plaza score well for parks, grants,

660
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000
or anything like that since it's basically not that award?

661
00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:44,660
For the 500,000 earlier, 250, or 500, which wasn't no one.

662
00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:46,620
We have 500,000 for the community events center,

663
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,060
and I believe DCD did apply for grant

664
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:50,640
and did not receive it for the plaza.

665
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:52,380
Okay, so I don't think it scored well.

666
00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:54,040
Really?

667
00:58:55,180 --> 00:58:55,620
Okay.

668
00:58:55,620 --> 00:59:02,240
Yeah, maybe I'd say go back to that well, let's draw a couple of times again and see what else we can get in our bucket.

669
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:14,140
I'm asking the capital budget, but the parks grants have cycles to them and so I'm trying to say let's not give up on that because I think we could use those funds, you can move that around.

670
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,520
I would think we're trying every possible source imaginable and including a fundraising campaign.

671
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:29,240
I can move on to the, again, the third large project is the Bay Street Reconstruction.

672
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:40,060
I kind of identified all the different cost breakdowns, but essentially it's a $13.6 million project involving all our utilities, street, water, sewer, storm, construction management.

673
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
With joint utility trench work to be done as well with PSC. So significant project, we'll talk more in a second when we talk about the capital budget, because this project is included. But this is a 13-point million dollar project, big, big commitment by the city. Again, on the source of funding, we have a variety of sources here between the general fund using a significant amount of REIT, water operating funds, storm operating funds, sewer operating fund. The mayor was very successful in getting federal grant money for this project.

674
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:36,800
So, we got $6.5 million federal grant funds awarded, as well as another million dollars from the State Department of Commerce.

675
01:00:38,140 --> 01:00:43,960
Lastly, we will be relying upon our transportation impact fees to supplant the rest of the funding for the project.

676
01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:49,160
So, a lot of local dollars, a lot of federal money and a lot of grant money included in this project as well.

677
01:00:55,850 --> 01:00:57,430
Any questions on this particular project?

678
01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:58,170
Go ahead.

679
01:00:58,310 --> 01:00:58,710
Do I have any comments on that?

680
01:00:59,810 --> 01:01:01,530
Not so much question, statements.

681
01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:11,230
I find it problematic to see that we spent $4.1 million in park impact fees when we have a park that doesn't have a swing set.

682
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:17,870
And it has gravel, rubble, what do you call that pebbles underneath of the area that doesn't make it physically accessible.

683
01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:21,770
I have a problem when we keep talking about the state of our parks.

684
01:01:21,770 --> 01:01:28,610
And yet we poured 4.1 million dollars of park impact fees into this building that still doesn't exist.

685
01:01:29,370 --> 01:01:33,190
Like they said, this has been talked about for 10 years or whatever.

686
01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:43,310
I've been on this council for less than a year and I've already had to agree to budget amendments, contract amendment.

687
01:01:43,790 --> 01:01:50,730
This unity center, it's called a community center, has been a money pit for my perspective.

688
01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:59,390
And we call it a community center, and yet our seniors came here and said, here's a place for us, and then we punted.

689
01:02:00,210 --> 01:02:03,710
So is this a community center, or isn't it a community center?

690
01:02:03,850 --> 01:02:10,270
Especially if we are not only pouring money into it that the community could be using now.

691
01:02:10,990 --> 01:02:16,490
But then we're going to be asking them to increase their taxes as we keep talking about affordability.

692
01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:18,590
We keep giving lip service to affordability.

693
01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:24,350
But we're expecting them to take on more taxes to pay for the ongoing operationals.

694
01:02:24,730 --> 01:02:25,950
I have a problem with that.

695
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:30,590
Fair question, but the funding source,

696
01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:35,310
60% of the community center is coming from the public facilities district.

697
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:43,830
And then they imagine, or orchard campaign, it was defined specifically what the purpose of the facility is.

698
01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:47,610
to your concern about the maintenance of our parks.

699
01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:55,530
Unfortunately, we can get grants and we can use capital dollars only for capital construction.

700
01:02:55,850 --> 01:03:02,230
We can't use these dollars to buy swings and the things of that nature.

701
01:03:02,810 --> 01:03:13,230
These items, part of why we're going to be updating our parks plan is we have to have elements in our parks plan

702
01:03:13,230 --> 01:03:18,850
and to be able to utilize park impact fees to deploy those.

703
01:03:19,450 --> 01:03:25,090
We just can't spend, we're not allowed to spend them on things that aren't capital construction projects.

704
01:03:26,530 --> 01:03:28,190
Council Member Mitchell, go ahead.

705
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:35,310
Thank you, and I hate to like step in on here, because I know everybody has their own priorities.

706
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:42,830
But I think for the purposes of through presentation and to also just maybe go with

707
01:03:42,830 --> 01:03:43,890
That's what the mayor is saying.

708
01:03:45,230 --> 01:03:56,190
Unfortunately, as much as we do want to prioritize other things as well, as I understand it, the limitation is where those funding sources are coming from.

709
01:03:56,410 --> 01:04:05,730
The federal governments and state agencies unfortunately aren't going to kick in X amount of money for our swing sets.

710
01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:10,570
As upsetting as that is, they're not going to help us with that.

711
01:04:12,010 --> 01:04:23,470
They might help us with the community event center, but they will only do so if we also kick in money on our own to match some of that I'm guessing.

712
01:04:23,930 --> 01:04:33,690
And so this is a big collaborative project that I hope I can remind people that this doesn't mean that the other things aren't important.

713
01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:43,630
It's a way of essentially leveraging what assets we do have with the hope that down the line,

714
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:46,910
this will be a benefit to the community.

715
01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:53,210
Also, secondarily, also open up in other avenues that will allow us to hopefully find ways

716
01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:54,710
of supporting our existing parks.

717
01:04:55,170 --> 01:04:59,670
And I know something that has been talked about a lot is the creation of a parks department.

718
01:04:59,670 --> 01:05:06,030
Where if we get a district, a park's district, that might actually turn into something as well,

719
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:08,750
then the line to support those other needs.

720
01:05:09,170 --> 01:05:14,370
So I just hopefully can bring the temperature down a little bit on this discussion.

721
01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:18,990
That this is not about saying that our current parks are not important.

722
01:05:19,770 --> 01:05:26,610
It's trying to find what we can do within the box that we have.

723
01:05:26,610 --> 01:05:28,830
I hope I'm correcting that.

724
01:05:29,310 --> 01:05:30,070
That's a reward.

725
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:32,090
Yeah, I don't think you're correcting that.

726
01:05:32,350 --> 01:05:35,930
I have, if my neighbor had a house and they were falling in,

727
01:05:36,350 --> 01:05:39,530
and they pull up brand new Porsche, that's to serve.

728
01:05:39,930 --> 01:05:41,630
There's priorities that you're looking at that,

729
01:05:41,770 --> 01:05:45,390
and you're saying to yourself, where are there priorities

730
01:05:45,390 --> 01:05:48,850
and not fixing things that need to be fixed?

731
01:05:49,630 --> 01:05:52,890
This is a capital project when we redid CEO.

732
01:05:52,890 --> 01:05:56,310
Well, it's not, we didn't build a brand new building.

733
01:05:57,070 --> 01:05:59,490
We fixed an existing building.

734
01:06:00,750 --> 01:06:08,770
You don't have to, you don't have to construct a brand new park to fix a park.

735
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:16,030
You can use capital dollars and there's thresholds that make something a capital project.

736
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:19,110
And you can fix our local parks.

737
01:06:20,290 --> 01:06:23,290
You don't have to build a brand new park to use capital dollars.

738
01:06:23,550 --> 01:06:33,430
You use capital dollars to, or impact these, you use impact fees to renew lift stations to retrofit lines.

739
01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:37,750
Those aren't brand new, they're brand new when you redo them.

740
01:06:41,050 --> 01:06:44,350
There's a grain, there's a grain of truth in both of your statements and

741
01:06:44,350 --> 01:06:50,810
And the capital dollars have to be spent on things that are in our capital plans.

742
01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:57,750
And when the swing set breaks, I can't just go grab some capital dollars and replace the swing.

743
01:06:58,070 --> 01:07:04,770
So when we read, but you can read, but you can read, do a part for sure, if it's in our parks plan.

744
01:07:05,110 --> 01:07:07,350
And if it's in the parks part.

745
01:07:07,350 --> 01:07:11,430
And I would ask possibly a parliamentarian to weigh in.

746
01:07:12,350 --> 01:07:16,710
We're having a discussion, we're waiting for funding presentation.

747
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:20,430
And for specifics, so I'd ask that we go to that and

748
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:27,210
we will have a chance to talk these comments when we get to the motion forward.

749
01:07:27,570 --> 01:07:30,670
All right, let Mr. Pregner finish his presentation here.

750
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:34,490
So I know we start talking about the events center, but this lies about face street.

751
01:07:34,490 --> 01:07:37,630
And so I just want to clarify, there's no question on the base street construction.

752
01:07:40,210 --> 01:07:43,130
Okay, and then I think, you know, this is a good discussion, healthy discussion.

753
01:07:43,810 --> 01:07:48,010
I think what's important is that a part of this large investment that's doing the base street,

754
01:07:48,570 --> 01:07:51,710
community events center and the plaza, it builds a brand new library.

755
01:07:52,030 --> 01:07:55,310
It's a community events center, it's going to create a vibrant outdoor public space

756
01:07:55,810 --> 01:07:59,150
with as a welcoming gateway to Port Orchard's beautiful waterfront.

757
01:07:59,850 --> 01:08:03,210
Again, as we talk to the PFT, we talk about why this is important because it's a place where

758
01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:07,730
You know, we can get together, learn, connect with our community and life on the waterfront.

759
01:08:09,530 --> 01:08:11,210
A community united in commitment.

760
01:08:11,550 --> 01:08:18,110
If you look at all the different pieces of funding that we've had to cobble together for this project, it's been a big effort.

761
01:08:18,590 --> 01:08:23,770
And projects do take a long time, line out in advance, in place, to those funds, and that's what we've done.

762
01:08:23,890 --> 01:08:25,550
We have some 4.1 million to add.

763
01:08:25,890 --> 01:08:30,030
But we've taken the steps in which to get those fees in place and set that money aside.

764
01:08:30,030 --> 01:08:33,890
So when the project was ready, we'd have cash available to complete a project.

765
01:08:34,930 --> 01:08:40,210
And as you learn with all our transportation projects, it does take time to allow this fees to come in and mature.

766
01:08:41,670 --> 01:08:48,430
Lastly, I think we talked about the KFP that we really appreciate their partnership, because without them, this project couldn't go forward.

767
01:08:48,670 --> 01:08:52,210
There's such an important part of the human events center and the plaza in general.

768
01:08:52,530 --> 01:08:54,510
So thank you for your time.

769
01:08:54,750 --> 01:08:58,770
Listen to the presentation on the funding sources, and if you have questions on it, happy to take them.

770
01:08:58,770 --> 01:09:05,640
Any questions directly about Mr. Crocker's presentation?

771
01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:06,300
Councillor Dina?

772
01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:10,700
I just had a statement that the building will bring certain users for sure.

773
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,860
But it's the plaza and what we've contemplated that will bring back families time and time again.

774
01:09:15,980 --> 01:09:19,100
And I think that is important now for our downtown.

775
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,100
Thank you.

776
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:21,720
Councillor Devin.

777
01:09:24,850 --> 01:09:30,450
Is the current, do you happen to know the current square footage of the library right now?

778
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:32,190
I had no.

779
01:09:32,190 --> 01:09:35,710
It's, I'm 10,000 square feet probably.

780
01:09:36,330 --> 01:09:39,170
What is the new proposed square footage of the library?

781
01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:43,650
It's a 24,000 square foot building is probably around 12,000.

782
01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:46,410
So it's similar in size than what they have.

783
01:09:46,690 --> 01:09:47,310
Might be,

784
01:09:49,460 --> 01:09:51,760
yeah, it's about the same, but

785
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,960
I'm not exactly sure what the square footage on the other building is.

786
01:09:55,460 --> 01:10:00,020
So it's not likely to have sort of additional little,

787
01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:03,220
I don't believe they have significantly more space than

788
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:03,660
Yeah,

789
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:12,020
all right, are we ready to move on to our next item on our agenda, which is I think many of the people in the audience are here.

790
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:21,320
Thank you for your patience this evening, holding a public hearing on Proposition 1 for the November 3rd, 2026 general election.

791
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:30,880
Kitsap County Public Utility District is number one is authorizing a construction acquisition of electrical facility.

792
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:57,900
And so I'm going to open this puck hearing and I'm going to propose I've got a sign-up sheet and I'll call the folks on here, but we've got Angela Bennett, the executive director from the Kitsett Public Facilities District here, and I thought I would give her a little more time, and then I also am going to offer some additional time to Christine Nahn from Puget Sound Energy to follow, so Angela, please speak.

793
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:07,660
Great. Thank you. I just want to say thank you to Mayor Prutansu and the council for providing the opportunity for this discussion and inviting me to be here today.

794
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:25,000
My name is Angela Bennett and I am the general manager of Kitsap Public Utility District and I am here in my official capacity upon your request to provide factual information about Kitsap proposition number one and to answer your questions.

795
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:30,320
I want you to understand there are likely going to be a lot of questions that we can't

796
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,660
provide an answer to right now because it would be speculation.

797
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,760
I'm not here to advocate for or against Prop 1.

798
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:45,280
My goal is simply to make sure the council and the public have accurate information as you

799
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,320
have your discussion.

800
01:11:47,780 --> 01:11:52,840
Much like the City of Port-Archard, kids at PUD is a local government governed by elected

801
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:53,340
officials.

802
01:11:53,340 --> 01:12:06,180
They are Commissioner Debra Lester representing District 1, Commissioner Stacey Smith representing District 2, which includes this area, and Commissioner Heather Polly representing District 3.

803
01:12:06,660 --> 01:12:08,660
Commissioner Smith sends her regrets.

804
01:12:09,220 --> 01:12:13,800
She wanted to attend today, but had a prior travel obligation.

805
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:21,100
Kits up PUD currently provides water, waste water, broadband utility services.

806
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:34,360
We operate 52 water systems, two wastewater treatment plants, and serve more than 3,000 residential and business customers with telecommunication infrastructure throughout Kitsap County.

807
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,540
Okay, so why prong on the ballot?

808
01:12:38,540 --> 01:12:48,300
This should begin with members of the community who approach Kitsap PUD with questions and concerns about their electric bills, future costs.

809
01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:54,800
and whether a local public utility district could have a role in addressing those concerns.

810
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,040
One of our, one of KPUD's core values is community responsibility.

811
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,400
And our mission is to strengthen kids' app communities, their responsive and

812
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,260
sustainable utility services.

813
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:13,800
Part of that responsibility is listening when community members

814
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:20,720
rate significant utility issues and providing an appropriate public process to explore them.

815
01:13:21,580 --> 01:13:26,960
In response to that community interest, the Board of Public Listenation considered the

816
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,560
comments received and reviewed the process available under state law.

817
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:39,920
State law requires that a PUD-like kitsap to go to a vote of the public to obtain electric

818
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:40,680
Authority.

819
01:13:41,140 --> 01:13:51,600
Authority is not necessary to investigate providing electric utility services, but would be required to acquire or construct electric facilities.

820
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,600
So why authority before feasibility study?

821
01:13:56,460 --> 01:14:01,360
Comprehensive feasibility study is estimated to cost between $305,000.

822
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:12,500
The board considered whether it should spend those funds before asking voters whether they wanted to have KPUD to grant KPUD electric authority.

823
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:25,560
In considering, in that consideration, there was a high level view of costs and a consideration of Washington's history with similar ballot measures that normally fail.

824
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:32,860
Based on the anticipated costs of a comprehensive study and the history of similar measures,

825
01:14:33,140 --> 01:14:39,460
the poor determined that it would be most prudent to first ask voters, whether they wanted kids up to-

826
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
QD to have underlying authority. If the voters do not grant that authority, the district would not incur the cost of the comprehensive feasibility study contemplated by the board. If the voters grant the authority, the next step would be investigation, not acquisition or construction. To be clear, Proposition 1 asks voters whether KQD should have that authority. It does not determine

827
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:33,900
determine whether KPUD will provide electric service.

828
01:15:35,140 --> 01:15:40,540
If voters approve Prop 1, the next step would be a comprehensive feasibility study.

829
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:47,680
That study would examine the financial, operational, technical, and other considerations necessary

830
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:54,180
to understand whether providing electric service could be viable and beneficial to the community.

831
01:15:54,980 --> 01:15:57,820
Any decision to move forward would occur later.

832
01:15:57,820 --> 01:16:02,400
through a separate public process and action by the board.

833
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:09,300
This process reflects KQD's role as a community-owned public utility.

834
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:15,540
Listen to the community, provide factual information, create an opportunity for

835
01:16:15,540 --> 01:16:21,600
public participation, and allow the appropriate decision to be made at each step in the process.

836
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:28,920
us. So why is the vote happening now? As I mentioned earlier, state law requires voter

837
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:34,560
approval before QD may construct or require facilities for generation transmission or

838
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:41,200
distribution of electric power. State law also specifies that this question may only

839
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:49,060
be submitted to voters at a general election held in an even year. That gave a board a choice

840
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:53,120
between placing the question before voters in 2026,

841
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:59,000
waiting until at least 2028, or not placing the measure at all.

842
01:16:59,820 --> 01:17:03,000
As you are aware, based on community interest,

843
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,880
and the proposed rate increases, the KPUD Board of Commissioners

844
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,560
voted to place Proposition 1, author of 2020 Spallet.

845
01:17:12,380 --> 01:17:17,780
I want the council to know that the Board is committed to a feasibility study,

846
01:17:17,780 --> 01:17:33,140
Immediately after approving the resolution, placing Prop 1 on the ballot, the kids at PUD board passed a separate motion committing the district to conduct a feasibility study before taking action to exercise that authority.

847
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:45,880
That distinction is important. The ballot measure grants authority, the feasibility study would provide the information needed to determine whether exercising that authority makes sense.

848
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,840
The Board has not made that second determination.

849
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:57,380
A comprehensive fee of the ability study would need to answer substantially more questions than we can answer today.

850
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,820
And ultimately the study would need to address the central question.

851
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:09,240
Would kids at PUD construction, would kids at PUD constructing or

852
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:19,080
for electric facilities and perving electric service be financially and operationally feasible and in the best interest of the community.

853
01:18:19,980 --> 01:18:26,440
We cannot responsibly answer that question today because the detailed analysis has not yet been performed.

854
01:18:26,940 --> 01:18:29,960
However, we can give an idea of what the process may look like.

855
01:18:30,460 --> 01:18:38,080
If problem passes and the feasibility study is completed, the results would be presented publicly to the

856
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:43,160
FPUD Board of Commissioners, the Board has committed to an open and transparent process,

857
01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:47,200
and there is no pre-determined outcome of that process.

858
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:53,180
The public will have access to the information that the Board has as the process moves forward.

859
01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:57,940
Would proposition one change politics is?

860
01:18:58,380 --> 01:18:58,480
No.

861
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:06,000
Proposition one does not authorize an increase in property taxes and is not a levy lived lift.

862
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:11,320
A bond levy or a levy lid lift would require another vote of the public.

863
01:19:12,380 --> 01:19:14,860
Would Proposition 1 change electric rates?

864
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:15,740
No.

865
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:25,080
KPUD does not provide electric rates, or does not set electric rates and does not currently provide electric service, so electric rates would stay the same.

866
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:31,600
I recognize that there are strong opinions both for and against this issue.

867
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:37,900
So, and as the council considers this issue tonight, I would clarify what is being asked.

868
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:44,860
The decision before voters on November 3rd is should kids at PUD have the legal authority

869
01:19:44,860 --> 01:19:47,780
to construct or acquire electric facilities.

870
01:19:48,420 --> 01:19:56,320
The decision is not should KPUD conduct a feasibility study, nor is it should KPUD purchase the existing

871
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,000
electric system utility and begin providing electric service.

872
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,640
If voters approve Prop 1, KPUD received a legal authority to construct or acquire direct facilities.

873
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:15,180
The board has it to conducting a comprehensive feasibility study before deciding whether to exercise authority.

874
01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:20,900
If voters reject Prop 1, KPUD would not receive that authority through this election.

875
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,420
Either way, the voters of Kitsap County make the first decision.

876
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,320
And with that, I'm here to answer any questions you may have.

877
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:38,360
I'm going to hold questions for now and let everybody that signed up to speak speak and we'll come back to questions after all the testimony.

878
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:43,880
And I think it's in the office in the audience from Puget Sound Energy.

879
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:52,000
And can you be Christine a little bit of extended time to and then we're going to hold the other testimony to three minutes from everyone else.

880
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,180
Good

881
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:59,270
evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.

882
01:20:59,690 --> 01:21:04,210
My name is Christine Nahn, and I am the local government affairs manager at Puget Sound Energy.

883
01:21:04,690 --> 01:21:09,850
I'm just sharing a little bit about Puget Sound Energy, we're over 150 years old.

884
01:21:10,210 --> 01:21:15,450
We have 1.2 million customers, electric and gas is what we serve in our utility.

885
01:21:16,010 --> 01:21:19,170
And we have 10 county, we serve across Western Washington.

886
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:29,230
I'm here tonight to offer our percent on K-PUD-1, which, if passed, would hand control of the entire county's electric service, including transmission lines,

887
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:38,410
substations, maintenance, and operation facilities to a small government agency with no plan, no accountability, and no experience delivering electricity.

888
01:21:39,090 --> 01:21:44,150
This is not a vote authorizing the PUD to conduct a study to estimate cost to taxpayers.

889
01:21:44,630 --> 01:21:46,610
That could have been done without a vote.

890
01:21:46,610 --> 01:21:58,850
But for PSC, the primary driver of recent rate increases in the growing and the growing costs of providing energy to customers is meeting Washington State's Clean Energy Requirements.

891
01:21:59,290 --> 01:22:12,990
Since the Clean Energy Transformation Act, which is CEDA, was passed in 2019, PSC's power supply costs have more than tripled, going from about 750 million per year to more than 2 billion per year.

892
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:19,470
In addition to those rising power costs, we estimate that complying with CEDA added approximately

893
01:22:19,470 --> 01:22:24,670
820 million in costs between 2022 and 2025.

894
01:22:25,330 --> 01:22:31,690
That figure does not include additional investments needed to maintain reliability as coal was removed

895
01:22:31,690 --> 01:22:35,190
from our portfolio and in compliance with CEDA.

896
01:22:36,230 --> 01:22:41,090
Also public utilities can access low cost hydropower from the federal government.

897
01:22:41,090 --> 01:22:46,030
And they have not had to invest nearly the same amount of money into new renewable

898
01:22:46,030 --> 01:22:49,430
CEDA compliant resources as PSC has done.

899
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:54,570
However, the days of cheap federal hydropower are gone, and KPUD will not be able to

900
01:22:54,570 --> 01:22:57,310
access that like other PUDs have in the past.

901
01:22:58,230 --> 01:23:03,990
According to the General Manager of KPUD, their estimated cost of taking over PSC's existing

902
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:09,230
electrical infrastructure is about, is between 800 million and 1.2 billion.

903
01:23:09,230 --> 01:23:12,390
This information was disclosed in an internal email.

904
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:15,990
The actual value of our assets is going to be much higher.

905
01:23:16,530 --> 01:23:25,410
We are currently working with concentric advisors on an independent valuation study of our system in Kitsop County and that information will be public very soon.

906
01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:33,850
There is no doubt that this debt will fall on taxpayers through higher rates, service fees, property taxes, or some combination of all three.

907
01:23:33,850 --> 01:23:40,170
To pay for this, QUD would need to raise property taxes by at least 20 times what they are today.

908
01:23:40,690 --> 01:23:45,350
Again, this is to purchase infrastructure that customers are already served by today.

909
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:54,610
In 2008, Jefferson County voters were told the cost of taking over the electric service from PSC would cost about 47 million.

910
01:23:55,370 --> 01:23:58,950
Ultimately, the cost was more than double that over 100 million.

911
01:23:58,950 --> 01:24:03,550
Voters had no ability to weigh in again as a second vote was not required.

912
01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:07,890
The same is true here in Kitsap County, there is a vote required to preserve it.

913
01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:13,310
We believe that important voters have full information before making an important decision such as this.

914
01:24:13,890 --> 01:24:18,810
As I mentioned earlier, we look forward to bringing data forward to show what the true cost to customers would be.

915
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:22,590
Operating an electric utility today is highly complex.

916
01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:27,990
It requires specialized technical expertise around the clock operations and

917
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:32,150
in a relentless focus on safety for the public and our employees.

918
01:24:32,670 --> 01:24:33,810
As PSC customers,

919
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:36,810
port or to residents get access to energy saving programs,

920
01:24:37,190 --> 01:24:39,990
EV and solar options, and bill assistance programs.

921
01:24:40,630 --> 01:24:46,170
PSC is also making major investments in wildfire mitigation to keep community safe.

922
01:24:46,810 --> 01:24:49,730
We are proud to serve more than 130 customers,

923
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:54,670
hundreds in customers in Kitsab County, and many of my PSC call kits up their home.

924
01:24:54,670 --> 01:25:00,710
Our mission remains unchanged and we will continue to provide safe and reliable energy services under all conditions.

925
01:25:01,370 --> 01:25:02,490
Thank you so much for the opportunity.

926
01:25:03,330 --> 01:25:04,090
Thank you, Christine.

927
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:12,190
All right, I'm going to call on the people that have signed the list first, and then we will open it up to anyone else that wishes to speak.

928
01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:16,810
And please keep your comments to no more than three minutes if you may.

929
01:25:17,050 --> 01:25:19,090
And, Brandy, want to start the timer?

930
01:25:19,790 --> 01:25:20,470
Ms. Wallace?

931
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:20,630
Ms. Wallace?

932
01:25:22,230 --> 01:25:22,930
Ms. Wallace?

933
01:25:24,590 --> 01:25:25,110
Okay.

934
01:25:25,690 --> 01:25:28,250
And so I have Donna Branch Gilby.

935
01:25:28,650 --> 01:25:30,110
I has signed up to speak.

936
01:25:31,150 --> 01:25:32,230
And you have three minutes.

937
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:33,890
Ms. Wallace?

938
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:34,930
Two minutes.

939
01:25:35,930 --> 01:25:36,450
Three.

940
01:25:36,910 --> 01:25:37,250
Thank you.

941
01:25:37,970 --> 01:25:40,630
Mayor and council, thank you for this opportunity.

942
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:43,050
My name is Donna Branch Gilby.

943
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:46,610
I live at 15871 Glenwood Road, Southwest.

944
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:48,670
My family's farm.

945
01:25:48,670 --> 01:25:51,350
We've owned this property since 1952.

946
01:25:52,910 --> 01:25:59,430
I am speaking here today because I've noticed my electric bill has been going up.

947
01:25:59,930 --> 01:26:04,790
And yet my friends in Masony and Piersky were complaint about their bill.

948
01:26:05,170 --> 01:26:11,050
They never complain about the power being out during the winter months, whereas my husband and

949
01:26:11,050 --> 01:26:14,770
I experienced that every winter for several days.

950
01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:22,870
I wonder how this could be since we're being served by a big utility, a big corporation.

951
01:26:23,370 --> 01:26:27,550
How could our service not be as great as what they get?

952
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:32,690
And of course, it's because they're served by a public utility district.

953
01:26:33,230 --> 01:26:40,170
Now, the advantage of a PUD, there are several, I think, is one, they don't have to worry about stockholders.

954
01:26:40,170 --> 01:26:47,090
They have to let the voters, because commissioners are elected by the voters of Kitsip County.

955
01:26:48,050 --> 01:26:54,370
Whereas those who control decision-making in PSE are not even in the state of Washington.

956
01:26:55,290 --> 01:27:00,010
PSE was purchased in 2007 by an international consortium.

957
01:27:00,430 --> 01:27:02,690
So our money does not stay in the state.

958
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:06,390
When I pay my bill, that money goes out of the country.

959
01:27:06,830 --> 01:27:09,170
I would like it to stay in Kitsip County.

960
01:27:09,170 --> 01:27:13,270
where it can be circulated and we can all benefit from it.

961
01:27:19,090 --> 01:27:23,770
So, yet the question is, is this really financially feasible?

962
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:33,550
And that's why I'm asking you to show your support, to go on record, and say, let's look at the question.

963
01:27:34,530 --> 01:27:40,650
You know, if the voters don't like the decision that the commissioners make, we can vote them out.

964
01:27:40,930 --> 01:27:43,070
Thank you for your time, appreciate it.

965
01:27:43,070 --> 01:27:44,670
Excuse me, what say you lived on?

966
01:27:45,310 --> 01:27:46,130
On my road.

967
01:27:46,590 --> 01:27:46,810
Glenwood.

968
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:47,330
Glenwood.

969
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:47,670
Thank you.

970
01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:48,850
I've got the list here.

971
01:27:49,070 --> 01:27:49,810
Mr. Mayor, please order.

972
01:27:51,010 --> 01:27:55,310
Perhaps it would be worth how to explain our role in that we can't offer up the support

973
01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:56,490
of the future speakers.

974
01:27:56,670 --> 01:28:00,470
I think we addressed it earlier in the meeting, but the City Council, this is really just a listening

975
01:28:00,470 --> 01:28:01,550
session and questions.

976
01:28:02,130 --> 01:28:08,830
The City Council, the City Council cannot take a position on this matter, at least as a

977
01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:09,110
body.

978
01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:15,890
All right, I have Lorna for our own, the sign-ups for our own, okay.

979
01:28:21,700 --> 01:28:28,160
My name is Laura for our, I am a Port Orchard resident and PSE rate pair.

980
01:28:29,140 --> 01:28:32,800
I'm in favor of the KPUD Proposition 1.

981
01:28:33,540 --> 01:28:40,340
To be clear, this proposition is simply to initiate the process and call for a feasibility study to be formed.

982
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,420
That's it for now.

983
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:52,500
We are at the, let's get the data phase, big corporate money wants to keep their golden

984
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:56,260
goose by squashing these efforts at the outset.

985
01:28:57,740 --> 01:29:03,560
Even before customers are given the chance to look into our public own option.

986
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:11,220
23 of the 26 state PUDs provide electricity in Washington State.

987
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:18,360
Should have the opportunity to explore the option, obviously PSE customers are very concerned

988
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,000
about rate increases that are not slowing down anytime soon.

989
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:33,160
PSE reports huge executive bonuses and generous international stakeholder dividends that are generated

990
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,020
related from rape peers like us paying biorelectricity bills.

991
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:42,840
Why not require the profits stay within our community and

992
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,180
And be reinvested in the infrastructure as we grow. And make sure the infrastructure continues to become greener. A change in ownership from PSE to KPUD appears to have so many benefits for local power consumers. It will be hard not to consider moving away from the privately held corporation PSE. The Bonneville Power Administration BPA rule prioritizes

993
01:30:29,180 --> 01:30:42,720
public utility districts and the rate per kilowatt is much lower than it changes that charges a private utility such as PSE.

994
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:52,640
BPA also offers green energy while PSE uses other resources such as natural gas generators.

995
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,820
Consumers want to move to alternative green energy and away from possible fields.

996
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:12,140
Another argument for KESAP PUD is that KPUD would act on behalf of his constituents because we elect the KPUD commissioners.

997
01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:20,900
We will have a seat at the table, I believe this is a win for rates, a win for the environment, a win for control.

998
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:27,220
The feasibility study is a must, and I look forward to learning more about this possibility.

999
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,580
Vote yes for KPUD Proposition 1.

1000
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:32,840
Thank you.

1001
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:33,940
Thank you for your testimony.

1002
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,080
All right.

1003
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:43,180
We have Chris Beats, this next on list, if you could just identify yourself and for the record.

1004
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:47,300
Thank you.

1005
01:31:53,920 --> 01:32:08,180
I'm going to try to address as many things as I can in the short time that I've got.

1006
01:32:09,420 --> 01:32:15,940
I do want to do appreciate Eric responded to my wife actually in an email earlier today

1007
01:32:15,940 --> 01:32:18,020
So hopefully I can address that part two.

1008
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:24,480
First off, I want to talk about some of the PSE representative brought up.

1009
01:32:24,500 --> 01:32:26,540
Actually, I want to talk about the members she didn't bring up.

1010
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:35,440
So PSE right now has reported revenue of about $4.86 billion for 1.2 million customers.

1011
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:42,940
Out of that, it's estimated that their profit margins are only around 6% to 7%, that still

1012
01:32:42,940 --> 01:32:47,380
it equates to about $400 million a year, give or take.

1013
01:32:48,780 --> 01:32:56,080
In 2025, they paid out $62.9 million in dividends to their shareholders, which these

1014
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:00,180
are private shareholders, it's not a publicly held company, there's no stock ticket.

1015
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:08,180
In 2024, they paid out $175.9 million in dividends to their shareholders.

1016
01:33:08,180 --> 01:33:15,880
So, if I take Kitsap County's portion of that, it's around 10%, 130,000 customers.

1017
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:25,800
That means that we would roughly, you know, gave them about $30 million, just in shareholder

1018
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,940
dividends, not total revenue.

1019
01:33:28,500 --> 01:33:29,340
That's just dividends.

1020
01:33:30,140 --> 01:33:36,020
I don't know much you guys, but I think we in Kitsap County could probably do a lot more

1021
01:33:36,020 --> 01:33:38,760
with that $30 million then watch it go out the door.

1022
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,020
They have continually pushed for rate increases.

1023
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,740
They got a rate increase for 2025 and 2026

1024
01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:50,860
of around $600 million.

1025
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:56,760
They went next year and asked who increased their rate increases

1026
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,500
by almost $300 million.

1027
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,860
PSE has to meet regulations for green and all these other kinds

1028
01:34:05,860 --> 01:34:13,160
of things, and so does every other public utility district in the state. None of the

1029
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,740
rates have gone up as much. In fact, the shareholder dividends that they've paid out

1030
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:26,820
in the last year is more than every other PUD who provides electricity in the state. All

1031
01:34:26,820 --> 01:34:32,480
of their revenue combined isn't even as much as that shareholder dividend. We still have

1032
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:36,920
We have the highest outages rates of any place in the state.

1033
01:34:38,460 --> 01:34:42,900
We have the highest electric rates and we have the lowest service rate.

1034
01:34:45,620 --> 01:34:52,020
All the other things about the vote for this is at least we would have a voice.

1035
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:58,420
We would be able to go to an independent governing body, not part of the county, not part of anybody else.

1036
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,100
We could recall those people that we elect.

1037
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:07,460
We have a say right now the utility district doesn't allow us to have it in Eastay

1038
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:09,800
Thank you

1039
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:16,880
Request it. Thank you. Hey, and I've got Mike Johnson is the last person to sign up

1040
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:32,440
Good evening mayor and city council. My name is Mike Johnson. I live in an unincorporated portalshared off of horizon lane

1041
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:34,240
I

1042
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,480
I am an electrical engineer.

1043
01:35:37,620 --> 01:35:39,240
I used to work for a Puget Sound Energy

1044
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,460
out of their Brimmerton office.

1045
01:35:41,220 --> 01:35:44,000
Now I'm an engineering manager at a local public utility.

1046
01:35:45,020 --> 01:35:46,980
And I just wanted to kind of share some of the differences

1047
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:48,840
between public and private utilities,

1048
01:35:49,480 --> 01:35:52,240
just kind of for the benefit of you and the voters present.

1049
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,060
Probably the biggest benefit that most people will notice

1050
01:35:57,060 --> 01:35:59,360
between the public and private utilities,

1051
01:35:59,780 --> 01:36:01,060
at least locally, is the rates.

1052
01:36:01,060 --> 01:36:04,400
It's the rates for the public utilities are a lot lower.

1053
01:36:05,180 --> 01:36:12,280
And the reason for that isn't a coincidence and it's not a sinister conspiracy, either.

1054
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:17,080
But it's simply a function of the way the laws work in the state and the federal level.

1055
01:36:17,740 --> 01:36:22,140
Most of the dams on the Columbia River are owned by the federal government.

1056
01:36:22,460 --> 01:36:25,660
And the power from those dams is sold by the Bonneville Power Administration.

1057
01:36:25,660 --> 01:36:32,440
That power is sold as prioritized for public utilities over privates.

1058
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,160
So public utility purchase a same-pout PSC at a significant discount.

1059
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,640
On top of that, as the PSC representative was saying just a few minutes ago,

1060
01:36:42,980 --> 01:36:47,340
the renewable energy mandates in the state of Washington are a significant burden.

1061
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:55,800
Again, PSE is obligated to generate 80% of their power from renewable resources by 2030.

1062
01:36:56,740 --> 01:37:02,600
And that's without being able to rely on the BPA power generated by the federal dams.

1063
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:11,460
So as a result, pretty much every public utility in the area, there are about $500 a year,

1064
01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:16,700
to a thousand dollars a year cheaper than a PSE customer for the same power.

1065
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:24,840
So that's Mason County, Jefferson County, the city of Seattle and Big Harbor.

1066
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:31,020
All the people right next door, every family, saving quite a bit of money compared to us.

1067
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,660
That gap is not sustainable.

1068
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:40,320
For people to spend almost a thousand bucks a year extra on their power bills, that's

1069
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:45,780
massive dead weight dragging down the standard of living in our county and this gap is only

1070
01:37:45,780 --> 01:37:51,440
going to grow over time as additional renewable energy targets kick in and PSC will have to

1071
01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:57,980
continue to raise rates to meet those. Now these laws may not be fair but instead of

1072
01:37:57,980 --> 01:38:04,240
complaining about them, kids at county voters have an opportunity to adapt to this new environment

1073
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:11,640
in the state of Washington, and to pass Prop 1 to form a public utility for their electric service.

1074
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:12,860
Thank you.

1075
01:38:13,940 --> 01:38:14,520
Thank you.

1076
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,600
Anyone else wishing to address a test by on this matter, please step to the microphone.

1077
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:28,920
Thank you, Mayor.

1078
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,540
I guess I'll be out on the island tonight on this topic.

1079
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:39,180
Nobody's happy about watching their power bill go up, especially me and their frustrations,

1080
01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:40,000
super fair.

1081
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,680
But what a lot of what's driving those increases is on who owns the wire.

1082
01:38:44,820 --> 01:38:49,420
Regional power cost of projected rise up to 47% above inflation in the next few years,

1083
01:38:49,540 --> 01:38:50,860
no matter who's serving gets out.

1084
01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:56,140
Here's what the measure actually does though, the campaign supporting it in what you're

1085
01:38:56,140 --> 01:39:01,320
going to see in your ballot measures says a yes votes lets KUPUD conduct a feasibility study.

1086
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,320
That's not really accurate.

1087
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,860
The resolution grants PUD three commissioners permanent authority to buy or build an entire

1088
01:39:07,860 --> 01:39:08,700
electric system.

1089
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:14,200
No study is actually required, none required at all, and no second vote before the act.

1090
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,240
Whatever they decide, voters don't get to vote again.

1091
01:39:18,620 --> 01:39:21,940
I thought a public record request asking what KPUD actually knows.

1092
01:39:22,300 --> 01:39:27,200
These ability studies, rate analyses, cost estimates, risk assessments, nearly every category came

1093
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,300
back the same, no records identified.

1094
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:35,160
They don't have this information, and they're asking us to trust them anyway, and that is an issue

1095
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:35,540
for me.

1096
01:39:35,540 --> 01:39:40,280
But we do know they have a number because in an email that they haven't given to the public,

1097
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:45,600
KPD's only general manager wrote in June that purchasing PSC system would cost between

1098
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:51,480
$800 million and $1.2 billion in amount that would require a special property tax levy

1099
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:53,200
roughly 20 times today's rate.

1100
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,660
Now, that would take another vote for what someone said earlier, but maybe necessary.

1101
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:02,500
That number was known seven weeks before the public hearing and wasn't shared with those

1102
01:40:02,500 --> 01:40:04,720
people that they're hearing, and that's problematic for me.

1103
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:11,660
Compare that to Wacom, a member of Giant, who spent under $100,000 studying this question

1104
01:40:11,660 --> 01:40:13,060
before asking their voters.

1105
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:19,640
Wacom found $492 million costs with a projected $80 million loss over four years.

1106
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:26,200
Bayward Child cost up to $146 million, both said no, based on those real numbers.

1107
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:31,140
Before Washington communities had voted on this issue since 2008, only Jefferson County

1108
01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:36,140
We said yes and its voters were told 47 million for that project and they ended up paying

1109
01:40:36,140 --> 01:40:40,600
over 100 million once the authority was locked in and that's problematic.

1110
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:46,680
To be clear, I'm not here to defend PSE, their rate increases are real and it's fair to

1111
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,460
ask questions about how they spend rate-payer money as well.

1112
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:55,240
So don't just think I'm here to support PSE, I'm against how this ballot is coming to the

1113
01:40:55,240 --> 01:41:01,040
the public. They want to ask us for a feasibility study, then ask us for a feasibility study,

1114
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:07,680
not the ability to buy and construct these services. That is the cart ahead of the horse for

1115
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:07,840
me.

1116
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,500
I'm almost done here. To be clear, again,

1117
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:19,160
it's not about me, but their rates also go through PSC's death to a state review. They don't

1118
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:24,120
just get to apply these rates. KPUD would not. So it's on three commissioners would set them

1119
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,500
directly, with really not much of an outside check in the voter, but we don't get to vote

1120
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:33,100
on these things. We're not saying public power, me, I'm not saying public power is wrong

1121
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:38,460
for Kitsap, but what I'm saying is the voters haven't been given the numbers to know. Vote

1122
01:41:38,460 --> 01:41:44,180
no on this measure until pay Kitsap of the utility district to come back with real answers before

1123
01:41:44,180 --> 01:41:49,500
asking for that authority first. That is a much better way to treat and respect the public.

1124
01:41:49,860 --> 01:41:50,160
Thank you.

1125
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:56,660
Thank you for your testimony, so anyone online or anybody else, some guy have some online

1126
01:41:56,660 --> 01:42:01,420
with their hand raised and Clark is going to bring you in.

1127
01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:05,280
Hi, it's Bonnie again.

1128
01:42:05,940 --> 01:42:12,920
I just want to like, go ahead and say that kind of along the lines of what Robert just said,

1129
01:42:13,580 --> 01:42:19,680
it's not, it's not even a question of whether or not we can be four organs, KPUD.

1130
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:26,260
It's that we need to have those studies to know what we're signing up for.

1131
01:42:26,500 --> 01:42:32,940
If you go ahead and say, oh yes, yes, on this opposition, then when those studies come

1132
01:42:32,940 --> 01:42:41,240
back, if it increases the property taxes 20%, you've got three commissioners deciding

1133
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:41,500
it.

1134
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:43,840
The voters no longer get a choice.

1135
01:42:44,340 --> 01:42:48,300
I don't think it's unreasonable to say, hey, take this off the ballot.

1136
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:56,120
hold off on this and do these studies that you can afford that you can do without a ballot measure,

1137
01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:02,360
then come back with all that information and sell it to the voters. You know,

1138
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:08,900
not doing that and just saying, hey, give us all the power and give the three commissioners power

1139
01:43:09,580 --> 01:43:17,240
is really just putting a smoke screen up. People think, okay, I'm voting for KPUD to go ahead and

1140
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:23,600
take over. You're not. That's not what this vote's about. This vote is about, hey, let's

1141
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,400
give us the power, then we're going to go do all the studies and back up all the,

1142
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:34,240
and then take it to missioners. And if it costs an astronomical amount, you know,

1143
01:43:34,460 --> 01:43:40,680
ensure you can replace the commissioners, but it doesn't replace that vote. And so, if anybody

1144
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:47,160
listens to the public comments, please realize that they can do the feasibility study without

1145
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:54,020
out the vote. They can do the data collecting without a vote and I think that that's the way

1146
01:43:54,020 --> 01:44:00,740
it should go. KPUD might be the way to go after all that's done, but we just don't know

1147
01:44:00,740 --> 01:44:08,880
and the way the measure is worded, it's just, it's not good. You shouldn't be asking the

1148
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:13,940
voters to hand over all the power without all the information. That's my only comment.

1149
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,220
Thank you for your testimony.

1150
01:44:17,740 --> 01:44:21,200
Anyone else online wish to testify on this matter?

1151
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,780
Use the raise your hand feature or anybody in the room.

1152
01:44:26,910 --> 01:44:28,470
Get one bite at the apple.

1153
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:33,730
All right. I'm not seeing anybody else.

1154
01:44:34,270 --> 01:44:37,470
Council, do you have questions on this matter?

1155
01:44:39,210 --> 01:44:41,350
Council member Mitchell, go ahead.

1156
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:44,390
And are they if any in particular, buddy in particular?

1157
01:44:44,730 --> 01:44:49,450
I actually would love to talk to the general manager for K-Puts.

1158
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,620
First, just because I think, so let me begin by saying that I find this concept fascinating for many of the reasons that people have brought up tonight. I cannot say where I am for obvious reasons, but I do find it a fascinating concept. One thing that has been brought up by several individuals tonight, and this is my big thing. So, we've touched on the fact that the wording

1159
01:45:29,620 --> 01:45:36,140
of what measure the proposition is such, because there's an RCW statute that requires

1160
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:37,020
it to say that.

1161
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:41,840
I went and looked at the statute, and it is incredibly prescriptive.

1162
01:45:42,380 --> 01:45:50,080
But I do think that it is a fair question to ask, while I appreciate kind of like the

1163
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:55,220
rationale of wanting to ask voters here, are you willing to spend up to $500,000 on the

1164
01:45:55,220 --> 01:45:56,040
feasibility study?

1165
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:05,180
I appreciate that, but I guess I'm not understanding if there was a legal reason that it could not

1166
01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:10,300
have been put on the ballot, do we authorize a feasibility study?

1167
01:46:10,780 --> 01:46:17,100
Why do we have to ask now for the authority for K-PED to potentially do all of this?

1168
01:46:17,860 --> 01:46:24,120
Was there a legal reason why it could not have been a question first of would you authorize

1169
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:25,340
a feasibility study.

1170
01:46:27,950 --> 01:46:34,930
The PUD could have done some kind of polling of the residents or something like that.

1171
01:46:35,210 --> 01:46:40,330
We could have put some kind of measure on there, go forward, go and don't go forward.

1172
01:46:41,370 --> 01:46:48,330
Like I said in my statement, the 75% of these fail, right?

1173
01:46:49,130 --> 01:46:53,410
You heard from the gentleman who didn't identify himself, so I'm not sure his name,

1174
01:46:54,210 --> 01:47:03,530
that these have failed. They failed and welcome. They failed, you know, they failed. So, the board said they want to know,

1175
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:06,630
should, does the public want them to go forward?

1176
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:15,550
And that part I understand, and again, like I said, I appreciate being asked, hey, can we spend $500,000 for this?

1177
01:47:15,550 --> 01:47:24,450
I appreciate that. I guess where the issue is is that for some individuals it may feel like a

1178
01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:29,730
bait and switch sort of think like that's how it comes across. Even if that was not the intention,

1179
01:47:30,090 --> 01:47:33,170
it comes across that way. And that's what I'm concerned about.

1180
01:47:33,730 --> 01:47:42,450
Unfortunately, and there was a comment made to this. Unfortunately, the kitsapili, much like the

1181
01:47:42,450 --> 01:47:48,110
Council, we are not allowed to engage in any of the statements pro or against.

1182
01:47:48,830 --> 01:47:54,830
And so there was a statement about the pro stating it's for a feasibility study.

1183
01:47:55,230 --> 01:47:57,130
We were not able to review that.

1184
01:47:57,370 --> 01:47:59,330
We were not able to say it's good or bad.

1185
01:48:00,190 --> 01:48:07,450
Much like the con statement, we couldn't clarify the corrections in there, either.

1186
01:48:07,450 --> 01:48:20,190
So, you know, it's unfortunate we really have our hands tied in what we're able to do as a public, as a public, in any ballot measure.

1187
01:48:20,590 --> 01:48:24,390
Can I ask one last question, too? It just comes up just because I, oh.

1188
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:28,430
Just for the record, too. I assume everybody in the room knew Mr. McGee.

1189
01:48:28,530 --> 01:48:31,890
Robert McGee, he lives in the hardware area of South Gizeps.

1190
01:48:32,410 --> 01:48:33,070
Oh, thank you.

1191
01:48:33,130 --> 01:48:35,570
And my apologies for not making him identify himself.

1192
01:48:35,570 --> 01:48:41,370
And so my other question, I actually have a couple, but I want to make sure that my colleagues

1193
01:48:41,370 --> 01:48:46,190
have the opportunity to also ask their questions.

1194
01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:53,250
So one of the big things that I really want to understand is, so the internal email that

1195
01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:59,930
PSD sites, all of that, and then Jefferson County, maybe this is a combined question.

1196
01:48:59,930 --> 01:49:08,730
So that email that you were quoted from provides a range essentially and so my question is

1197
01:49:09,290 --> 01:49:16,830
The argument that PSC's materials brings out is like voters were told X and then it ended up being double

1198
01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:20,910
Well was very range provided and

1199
01:49:21,490 --> 01:49:29,910
The amount that was doubled actually went middle ground and then secondarily did Jefferson County voters and

1200
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:37,190
end up having a levy, and how much was that so that we might be able to get an idea of what would happen here?

1201
01:49:37,710 --> 01:49:39,850
Okay, so that's a lot of questions.

1202
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:41,090
I'm sorry, I know.

1203
01:49:41,390 --> 01:49:45,630
No, so let's first of all start how I got to that number.

1204
01:49:46,290 --> 01:49:54,090
There was not a feasibility study, there was not a record that was held back from the public records requests that we've received.

1205
01:49:54,090 --> 01:50:02,250
It was me looking at the cost of Jefferson's acquisition of the PSE assets they had agreed

1206
01:50:02,250 --> 01:50:07,750
to a value of $109 million for about 10 times their size now.

1207
01:50:09,050 --> 01:50:10,450
So what's 10 times 109?

1208
01:50:11,410 --> 01:50:11,670
Okay.

1209
01:50:11,970 --> 01:50:16,230
That's 1.09 at a little bit for inflation in there.

1210
01:50:16,630 --> 01:50:19,090
That's where I got the number from, okay.

1211
01:50:19,610 --> 01:50:20,330
It was a swag.

1212
01:50:20,330 --> 01:50:31,550
That swag was to determine, is there a roadblock? Should I tell my commission, hey, this is a roadblock, we can't go past this.

1213
01:50:32,090 --> 01:50:40,230
And that is why I reached out to bond council in that email to state, are we able to bond for this?

1214
01:50:40,430 --> 01:50:46,870
And really ask those questions. And I think that email is provided in links as well.

1215
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:58,670
And so that's our bond council, asking them, now I will say it turns out, yes, 109 million was what Jefferson PUD and PSE had agreed to.

1216
01:50:59,010 --> 01:51:09,990
But then the Washington Utility Transportation Commission found that PSE overcharged by $52.3 million and was forced to reimburse that.

1217
01:51:10,450 --> 01:51:13,670
And that is not something that's provided a lot.

1218
01:51:13,670 --> 01:51:17,450
and they were forced to reimburse that to their current rate payers.

1219
01:51:18,050 --> 01:51:24,590
So unfortunately Jefferson County was no longer current rate payers and they did not get that reimbursement.

1220
01:51:24,590 --> 01:51:30,590
So the secondary question of like what was their levy, what did they have to pay?

1221
01:51:30,610 --> 01:51:35,790
They did not have a levy, they did not have a levy, they paid for this through rates and

1222
01:51:35,790 --> 01:51:38,690
through USDA loans, they have now paid off those loans.

1223
01:51:38,690 --> 01:51:40,590
And did the rates increase?

1224
01:51:41,530 --> 01:51:43,470
The rates were, you know what?

1225
01:51:43,590 --> 01:51:44,710
I don't know what they were.

1226
01:51:45,230 --> 01:51:49,090
Immediately after in 2013, when Jefferson took over,

1227
01:51:49,650 --> 01:51:52,030
that I do know at this point,

1228
01:51:53,650 --> 01:51:56,410
depending on what you, how you operate,

1229
01:51:56,590 --> 01:51:59,490
how much power you use, they can be lower.

1230
01:51:59,830 --> 01:52:02,010
They have a higher base rate than PSE,

1231
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:04,670
but the cost per usage is lower.

1232
01:52:04,990 --> 01:52:07,690
So it's hard to say, if you were doing that metering,

1233
01:52:07,690 --> 01:52:08,790
you might be higher.

1234
01:52:09,470 --> 01:52:11,250
I'm going to move on to the council.

1235
01:52:11,390 --> 01:52:11,530
That's fine.

1236
01:52:11,790 --> 01:52:12,590
Council Member Morrissey?

1237
01:52:13,390 --> 01:52:14,210
Yes, Ms. Benick.

1238
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:15,710
Thank you for coming out tonight.

1239
01:52:16,090 --> 01:52:17,850
What's the largest PUD in our state?

1240
01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:20,410
The largest PUD is Clark PUD.

1241
01:52:20,750 --> 01:52:21,170
How many?

1242
01:52:21,170 --> 01:52:22,330
They are.

1243
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:27,010
How many electrical customers do they have?

1244
01:52:27,090 --> 01:52:28,710
You know, I don't know their electric customers,

1245
01:52:28,710 --> 01:52:34,170
but I do know their peak usage is 1,000 average megawatt hours.

1246
01:52:34,610 --> 01:52:37,590
And we're about 623 average megawatt hours here.

1247
01:52:39,630 --> 01:52:40,550
In our peak.

1248
01:52:41,230 --> 01:52:41,310
Okay.

1249
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:47,430
And by and large, there are how many, how many PUDs are there in the state?

1250
01:52:47,650 --> 01:52:52,750
So there are 28 PUDs total in the state, 24 of them provide electric service.

1251
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:57,370
Of those 24, how many of them are in an urban area versus rural?

1252
01:52:57,830 --> 01:53:00,530
You have Vancouver, so that's Clark PUD.

1253
01:53:00,990 --> 01:53:03,730
You have Snow-Homish PUD, Snow-Pud.

1254
01:53:04,230 --> 01:53:08,290
I would say cascaget PUD as well, but they're not providing electric.

1255
01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:13,270
So, of those large ones, right, let's look at Vancouver, how long have they been in existence?

1256
01:53:14,890 --> 01:53:17,410
That's a great question, I do not have that number.

1257
01:53:17,650 --> 01:53:21,530
I think that's how we get there, right, is I've done my research in some of it that I've learned.

1258
01:53:23,730 --> 01:53:30,810
PUDs thrive in a smaller environment as they grow, as opposed to being great, when there are already this size, right?

1259
01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:37,390
So, when I hear some of these comparisons, sometimes it's not even Apple staples,

1260
01:53:37,390 --> 01:53:43,870
We're not even playing with in fruit anymore, we're trying to compare fruits to vegetables, and I don't know that that always works either.

1261
01:53:45,770 --> 01:53:49,850
There's authorization that we're looking to gain in this vote in November.

1262
01:53:50,590 --> 01:53:59,290
How long do you guys have to construct your electricity grid before that authorization expires?

1263
01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:06,290
In 1969, the IOU's work put pleasure slager to change the law to allow that to be 10 years.

1264
01:54:07,570 --> 01:54:12,730
And that's still is today, because, okay, good, that's good to hear, because it actually

1265
01:54:13,530 --> 01:54:17,530
contradicts what I had found in that it doesn't ever expire.

1266
01:54:17,850 --> 01:54:18,830
So, help me understand this.

1267
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:23,510
Now, in fact, we were started as an electric PUD, so if it didn't expire, we wouldn't even be here.

1268
01:54:23,570 --> 01:54:27,890
Well, that's good enough, right, because I was working off some of that information.

1269
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:51,330
Now, get me back to how, in one of your core values, is community responsibility in about, I don't know, what 20% of the money that you're spending to put this on the ballot could have covered the feasibility study, how do we get to a poor authorizing's authorization, you're asking this authorization before doing any feasibility whatsoever?

1270
01:54:51,330 --> 01:55:14,950
We have talked and done some high-level discussions, I wouldn't call them feasibility studies, we have not done a feasibility study, but for example, we've talked with BPA, and we've provided all those records through the public records requests, we have done what I did on valuation of the asset.

1271
01:55:16,370 --> 01:55:21,930
We have done those kind of looks to determine can we finance this?

1272
01:55:22,570 --> 01:55:23,950
What is, what would it look like?

1273
01:55:24,490 --> 01:55:26,750
So we have done some due diligence.

1274
01:55:27,450 --> 01:55:33,810
The feasibility study being three to 500,000, it's not 20% of that to put that on the ballot.

1275
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:36,890
Because we already have one ballot measure on there.

1276
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:38,810
You got the discount for doing more than one.

1277
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:39,230
Yep, okay.

1278
01:55:39,250 --> 01:55:40,270
We get the discount for doing two.

1279
01:55:40,270 --> 01:55:44,850
Yeah, so actually it's cheaper than even sending out a survey.

1280
01:55:45,090 --> 01:55:50,530
It's cheaper than sending out even mailing something to all residents and kids at PUD.

1281
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:51,730
Kids at county.

1282
01:55:51,930 --> 01:55:55,490
And why was the choice made for the authorization as opposed to an advisory vote?

1283
01:55:55,850 --> 01:56:05,090
Because an advisory vote doesn't, it doesn't put the same obligations on the PUD.

1284
01:56:05,090 --> 01:56:12,910
And it doesn't bring out everybody to really voice their concerns.

1285
01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:15,410
And it doesn't really bring that.

1286
01:56:15,890 --> 01:56:17,430
If you see where that conflicts, right?

1287
01:56:17,530 --> 01:56:21,110
Where you say that we're not making that commitment to move forward.

1288
01:56:21,190 --> 01:56:25,870
And we won't use it if we're not going to, but you have that ability to do that.

1289
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:28,270
We have the ability right now without a vote.

1290
01:56:30,510 --> 01:56:33,050
I'm just asking a question, trying to find out why they went that way.

1291
01:56:33,150 --> 01:56:34,230
Did you go versus it?

1292
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:37,230
You can put your hand down.

1293
01:56:37,950 --> 01:56:41,110
If you were the expert, I'd be happy to.

1294
01:56:41,650 --> 01:56:41,650
So,

1295
01:56:44,260 --> 01:56:47,760
do you want to just start, like, the question again?

1296
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:53,500
Yeah, one on and on forever is why would you go for the authorization versus an advisory vote?

1297
01:56:54,340 --> 01:56:58,180
Yeah, the authorization is what gets fails.

1298
01:56:58,780 --> 01:57:00,220
It's not advisory votes that fail.

1299
01:57:00,700 --> 01:57:06,060
So an advisory vote says, yes, go ahead, do a feasibility study, which is not needed to

1300
01:57:06,060 --> 01:57:09,000
do a feasibility study, but let's say we chose to do that.

1301
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:16,760
But then the public came out and said, no, we don't support authority, then that is a waste of public funds.

1302
01:57:17,140 --> 01:57:21,180
It's a waste of time, it's a waste of our energy, and it's a waste of public funds.

1303
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:31,880
And so that is why the commission met, they discussed this, and they said, we want to know if the public will grant authority prior to doing this feasibility study.

1304
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,960
I understand chicken or egg, right?

1305
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:39,560
One is saying do the feasibility study first, but then you have this huge investment of funds

1306
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,160
prior to finding out if you have authority and it could be wasted.

1307
01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:49,220
The other is doing the authority first, and then the investment, which also may show that

1308
01:57:49,220 --> 01:57:52,820
it's not in the best interest of kids at PUD than it would be wasted.

1309
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:57,820
So here we have this challenge to say what comes first, the chicken or the egg.

1310
01:57:58,540 --> 01:58:03,600
I will tell you, I did not find any roadblocks leading up to this, and it could be a beneficial.

1311
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:05,680
That's for a dead end.

1312
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,380
Yes, I'd like to call for recess.

1313
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:09,340
It's 8.30.

1314
01:58:09,740 --> 01:58:15,940
We don't have the authority to deliberate on this issue, and we've given City Council time

1315
01:58:15,940 --> 01:58:17,080
a lot of time to this.

1316
01:58:17,660 --> 01:58:21,660
I really appreciate it, because I love being able to hear what everybody had to say, but

1317
01:58:21,660 --> 01:58:25,820
at this point, we still have business items, discussion item, report council committees, part

1318
01:58:25,820 --> 01:58:28,620
of a mayor on our agenda, and I have babies to get home to.

1319
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:34,480
Other council members wish to weigh on in this issue, asking questions?

1320
01:58:36,780 --> 01:58:40,280
I've just, I've got just one question for you.

1321
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:51,100
I'm all about local control, I lobby on that quite frequently down in Olympia, and I, my only concern

1322
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:56,480
here is if the feasibility says this doesn't make sense, and we should be doing this.

1323
01:58:57,060 --> 01:59:01,340
Can the board rescind that authority, or can only the voters?

1324
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:03,760
Again, it expires.

1325
01:59:04,180 --> 01:59:05,120
After 10 years?

1326
01:59:05,260 --> 01:59:06,740
Yeah, it expires after 10 years.

1327
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:10,600
So, should a feasibility show that it's not in the history of the public?

1328
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:16,040
I know my commissioners, they would not move forward with that.

1329
01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:24,100
Actually, I should say, I don't believe they would move forward with that, because I can't commit my commission to anything.

1330
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:33,140
But I would yeah, you could I don't know that anybody's ever recent 40 or assess that so that's a great question

1331
01:59:33,740 --> 01:59:37,320
Okay, all right if there aren't any further questions or comments

1332
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:42,220
Thank everybody for being here tonight. Thank you. This is a great conversation and

1333
01:59:43,540 --> 01:59:45,620
We're gonna move on to our business items

1334
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:08,780
I didn't know there was a motion. I would move to take a break until Council Member

1335
02:00:08,780 --> 02:00:09,960
Deadman comes back.

1336
02:00:15,770 --> 02:00:21,930
I made a motion. So is there a second, or do we move forward?

1337
02:00:22,670 --> 02:00:26,410
Can I amend your motion? We take a friendly 835. We reconvene.

1338
02:00:26,410 --> 02:00:27,250
four minutes.

1339
02:00:29,750 --> 02:00:36,610
There's a motion to second to take a break until 835. All in favor, please say aye.

1340
02:00:37,470 --> 02:00:41,250
Any opposed? Okay, we're in break for 3 more minutes.

1341
02:00:41,250 --> 02:00:41,290
Any comments?

1342
02:00:41,650 --> 02:00:42,250
Any questions?

1343
02:00:42,910 --> 02:00:43,030
Oh.

1344
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:50,130
They do.

1345
02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:51,130
Let me have a little.

1346
02:00:51,470 --> 02:00:54,130
I'd like to thank you.

1347
02:01:35,530 --> 02:01:36,930
.

1348
02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:40,370
.

1349
02:01:40,370 --> 02:01:42,870
.

1350
02:01:52,710 --> 02:01:54,110
.

1351
02:02:25,950 --> 02:02:28,630
I don't need to be part of it, I mean, the relevance of the colors.

1352
02:03:15,490 --> 02:03:16,890
.

1353
02:03:19,110 --> 02:03:20,510
.

1354
02:03:20,510 --> 02:03:20,590
.

1355
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:05,150
Oh

1356
02:04:23,570 --> 02:04:40,210
that we move forward okay he's coming we're Scott that goes the crowd oh Scott that's

1357
02:04:40,210 --> 02:04:40,950
twice, Charlie.

1358
02:04:46,550 --> 02:04:48,290
The penalty box.

1359
02:04:48,590 --> 02:04:49,170
I know it.

1360
02:04:50,410 --> 02:04:51,210
All right.

1361
02:04:51,550 --> 02:04:52,550
We're back in session.

1362
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:54,610
We are to our business items.

1363
02:04:55,030 --> 02:04:59,910
The first of which is approval of an item A, approval of a collective bargaining agreement

1364
02:04:59,910 --> 02:05:07,690
with the police, professional support guild for, with the guild.

1365
02:05:08,670 --> 02:05:13,270
There's a date on there that I don't think is relevant, so all right, Ms. Lendus is you.

1366
02:05:13,470 --> 02:05:15,970
All right, thank you Mayor and good evening, Council.

1367
02:05:16,850 --> 02:05:27,110
Before you tonight is a proposal, a tentative agreement with the newly formed police professional support group that was formed in of 2026.

1368
02:05:27,930 --> 02:05:33,910
The city and the guild have been negotiating their initial contract since that date.

1369
02:05:33,910 --> 02:05:38,490
This group had been previously represented by the teamster's local 589.

1370
02:05:39,310 --> 02:05:43,650
The party's reached a tentative agreement on August 3rd, the agreement has since been

1371
02:05:43,650 --> 02:05:48,210
ratified and signed by the guild and is now presented to you for consideration.

1372
02:05:49,010 --> 02:05:54,370
The contract is not public until adopted by the council, therefore you have seen this

1373
02:05:54,370 --> 02:06:01,370
under attorney client privilege and staff is asking you to authorize the mayor to sign the

1374
02:06:01,370 --> 02:06:04,450
I agree with it and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

1375
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:06,130
Members, you're an area.

1376
02:06:07,090 --> 02:06:20,290
Yeah, I move to authorize the mayor to sign the September 8, 2026 through December 31, 2028 collected bargaining amendment between the city for roger and the police professional support guild.

1377
02:06:20,890 --> 02:06:21,270
Second.

1378
02:06:22,050 --> 02:06:27,590
Motion by council, your second by council member Deener, council member, go ahead, give that a question.

1379
02:06:27,590 --> 02:06:37,930
No, I didn't have a question at a statement, you know, basically, I appreciate Debbie, you're working in your team, working to get this agreement finalized.

1380
02:06:38,650 --> 02:06:45,510
I know it's not probably what anybody, everybody thinks is perfect on either side.

1381
02:06:46,150 --> 02:06:53,990
I do like the fact that it ends with the other two teamsters agreement, which makes that a little bit more palatable moving forward with negotiations.

1382
02:06:54,830 --> 02:06:58,470
But I'm glad this is done, and thank you very much for getting it completed.

1383
02:07:00,010 --> 02:07:01,310
The comments or questions?

1384
02:07:01,630 --> 02:07:02,030
Councillor Perr dinner?

1385
02:07:02,370 --> 02:07:03,730
I'd just like to reiterate that.

1386
02:07:04,190 --> 02:07:06,390
Thank you for your support and getting us across the finish line.

1387
02:07:11,210 --> 02:07:17,550
You'll be voting on the approval of a collective bargaining agreement with the police, professional support guild.

1388
02:07:17,950 --> 02:07:19,370
All in favor, please say aye.

1389
02:07:19,710 --> 02:07:19,930
Aye.

1390
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:21,330
Opposed?

1391
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:24,730
The agreement passes unanimously.

1392
02:07:24,730 --> 02:07:30,350
Lastly, where our next business item, and it's a series of minutes here, we've got four of them.

1393
02:07:30,450 --> 02:07:35,570
The first of which is the approval of the minutes of July 28th, City Council, regular meeting minutes.

1394
02:07:35,690 --> 02:07:36,570
Is there a motion to approve?

1395
02:07:38,590 --> 02:07:43,950
Mayor, move to approve the July 28th, 2026 minutes has presented.

1396
02:07:44,570 --> 02:07:44,810
Second.

1397
02:07:46,650 --> 02:07:48,350
I'm going to second, I second.

1398
02:07:48,610 --> 02:07:50,090
We have a motion and a second.

1399
02:07:50,470 --> 02:07:54,010
Are you planning on voting or abstaining from these minutes?

1400
02:07:57,250 --> 02:07:57,730
No,

1401
02:08:00,050 --> 02:08:01,030
this is July 28th.

1402
02:08:01,030 --> 02:08:01,730
Never mind.

1403
02:08:01,970 --> 02:08:02,570
I'll second that.

1404
02:08:02,810 --> 02:08:02,930
Okay.

1405
02:08:03,370 --> 02:08:04,850
So I had Councillor Verdiener.

1406
02:08:04,990 --> 02:08:05,690
Did you make that motion?

1407
02:08:06,490 --> 02:08:07,390
I was going to have loads of peppy.

1408
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:09,310
Council Member Warden made the second.

1409
02:08:10,130 --> 02:08:11,910
Any discussion of the minutes?

1410
02:08:12,790 --> 02:08:14,150
I believe I'm going to get an abstention.

1411
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:15,510
I was going to ask.

1412
02:08:15,570 --> 02:08:17,070
I must abstain from this.

1413
02:08:17,210 --> 02:08:17,370
Correct.

1414
02:08:17,670 --> 02:08:19,070
So yes, I abstain.

1415
02:08:19,130 --> 02:08:19,850
Confirming that.

1416
02:08:20,050 --> 02:08:21,250
So all in favour?

1417
02:08:21,470 --> 02:08:22,030
Please say aye.

1418
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:22,630
Aye.

1419
02:08:23,170 --> 02:08:23,630
Any opposed?

1420
02:08:24,350 --> 02:08:25,250
And one abstention.

1421
02:08:25,250 --> 02:08:33,430
All right. I've got five yeas and one abstention. Let me go back. And now we have, Mr. Mayor, I move

1422
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:37,350
to approve the special meeting minutes from August 4th. Second.

1423
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:45,210
Councillor Mourci, a second by Councillor Membrose Pepe to approve the special meeting of August

1424
02:08:46,070 --> 02:08:52,110
4th. Is there any discussion or corrections in those minutes? All right. All in favour?

1425
02:08:52,110 --> 02:08:57,690
Please add. I want to post and I believe one abstention again.

1426
02:08:58,710 --> 02:08:59,830
All right.

1427
02:09:01,230 --> 02:09:01,790
Yep.

1428
02:09:01,950 --> 02:09:02,210
11.

1429
02:09:02,730 --> 02:09:03,430
It's coming up.

1430
02:09:04,290 --> 02:09:04,610
Mr. Mayor.

1431
02:09:04,990 --> 02:09:07,490
I move to approve the special meetings of August.

1432
02:09:07,830 --> 02:09:08,130
Second.

1433
02:09:08,810 --> 02:09:09,810
Motion by Councillor Romores.

1434
02:09:09,930 --> 02:09:10,950
Second by Councillor Mevers.

1435
02:09:11,070 --> 02:09:14,830
Turn it to approve the special meeting minutes of August 6.

1436
02:09:15,890 --> 02:09:17,450
Two of us and we have two abstentions.

1437
02:09:17,450 --> 02:09:20,470
And so we have any discussion?

1438
02:09:21,210 --> 02:09:22,390
Okay, all in favor?

1439
02:09:22,590 --> 02:09:23,150
Please say aye.

1440
02:09:23,490 --> 02:09:23,730
Aye.

1441
02:09:24,770 --> 02:09:25,290
Opposed?

1442
02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:27,810
And two abstentions, I'm hearing.

1443
02:09:28,570 --> 02:09:32,190
All right, now we're to the August 11th meeting minutes.

1444
02:09:32,190 --> 02:09:33,510
Is there a motion to approve?

1445
02:09:34,510 --> 02:09:37,810
Mayor, I move to approve of the minutes of August 11th, as presented.

1446
02:09:39,030 --> 02:09:39,270
Second.

1447
02:09:40,290 --> 02:09:43,390
Motion by Councillor Marose Pippie in that second was more significant.

1448
02:09:43,390 --> 02:09:44,050
My third.

1449
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:46,030
Oh, I'm a different to it.

1450
02:09:46,130 --> 02:09:46,550
Give it to her.

1451
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:52,590
Give it a second, I'm sorry, remember Mitchell, and who was absent here?

1452
02:09:52,930 --> 02:09:55,830
You were absent, okay, all right, any discussion?

1453
02:09:56,690 --> 02:10:00,950
All in favor of approving the August 11th meeting minutes, please say aye.

1454
02:10:01,310 --> 02:10:01,510
Aye.

1455
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:08,430
Opposed and one abstention, all right, we've got to vote on some minutes, so you go.

1456
02:10:08,890 --> 02:10:14,610
All right, we are to the item F now, which is a resolution of support for

1457
02:10:14,610 --> 02:10:20,850
For the Community Events Center, I'm going to read the document for the record since it wasn't published.

1458
02:10:21,650 --> 02:10:31,170
And this is the resolution of the City of Port Orchard, Washington, expressing support for funding plan for the Port Orchard Community Events Center project.

1459
02:10:31,470 --> 02:10:43,130
Whereas the City of Port Orchard continues efforts on the Port Orchard Community Events Center in partnership with the Kitsap Public Facilities District to advance economic development and opportunities for community gatherings.

1460
02:10:43,130 --> 02:10:48,290
in civic events, strengthen the downtown waterfront, and serve residents,

1461
02:10:48,290 --> 02:10:51,810
serve residents, visitors, and the broader South Getsap region.

1462
02:10:53,110 --> 02:10:59,390
This next whereas has a mistake, and I'll correct that, because the initial agreement was in 2019,

1463
02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:03,190
and it was amended a couple of times and extended also.

1464
02:11:03,830 --> 02:11:11,190
So whereas in 2019, the city and the CITSAT public facilities district executed in the Gretvo financing,

1465
02:11:11,190 --> 02:11:17,630
the based then current project cost and funding assumptions and whereas since the execution

1466
02:11:17,630 --> 02:11:23,090
of that agreement project cost estimates funding assumptions and related financing projections

1467
02:11:23,090 --> 02:11:29,690
have evolved as the project has advanced to design and permitting and whereas the city council

1468
02:11:29,690 --> 02:11:36,790
received a briefing on updated financial projections and funding as regular meaning of September 8,

1469
02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:50,150
from the city council reflecting these updates and the proposed increase in contribution by the public facilities district.

1470
02:11:50,730 --> 02:11:56,330
Now, therefore, the city council of the city of Port Orchard, Washington thereby resolves as follows.

1471
02:11:56,710 --> 02:12:05,950
The city council fully supports the community's event center project and the financial and the financial plan presented on September 8, 2026.

1472
02:12:07,490 --> 02:12:19,150
I move to approve resolution, doesn't have a number yet, whatever we're going to number this resolution in support of the funding and plan of our community event center.

1473
02:12:19,710 --> 02:12:20,110
Second.

1474
02:12:20,910 --> 02:12:30,750
Motion by Councillor Morsey and a second by Councillor Memberdini, Deener, any discussion of this resolution and the funding plan with the KBFD, Councillor Romeroza-Petti.

1475
02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:58,110
Yes, as you pointed out mayor, the initial funding plan was 2019, and I would remind folks that we had what I affectionately call the three year blip of COVID that disrupted numerous businesses and projects which caused the project cost to increase significantly.

1476
02:12:59,090 --> 02:13:11,550
I ask that we look at approving this not only because, you know, we've got the sign up there and imagine Port Orchard, but we are responsible for looking at Port Orchard in the future.

1477
02:13:13,070 --> 02:13:21,750
Most of us, some of us won't be here when we imagine that far into the future, and this is one thing that will bring the community together.

1478
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:25,730
we continually hear about downtown, how it can be better.

1479
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:31,390
One of our council members, and I will not do this justice,

1480
02:13:32,090 --> 02:13:36,510
that our waterfront is the best asset this set he has.

1481
02:13:36,830 --> 02:13:43,570
And anything that we can do to move it forward is to our benefit and to our citizens benefit.

1482
02:13:44,130 --> 02:13:46,510
So Scott, you can elaborate since that's your vision.

1483
02:13:46,510 --> 02:13:52,890
So I really think we need to move forward unanimously as that.

1484
02:13:53,230 --> 02:14:01,490
I know that we have a lot of ideas about where funds should go, and sometimes they conflict.

1485
02:14:02,290 --> 02:14:07,570
This is something that I think benefits everybody in the long run from the library on the ground floor.

1486
02:14:07,570 --> 02:14:14,410
Because God knows if you've been in that library, it's in serious need of a new facility.

1487
02:14:15,230 --> 02:14:21,350
And we don't know how people will utilize this building.

1488
02:14:21,630 --> 02:14:25,110
But there's the old saying in field of dreams, build it and they will come.

1489
02:14:25,550 --> 02:14:28,550
And I truly believe this is something that's going to happen.

1490
02:14:28,830 --> 02:14:35,250
I don't look at the bank leaving as a downfall.

1491
02:14:35,410 --> 02:14:40,490
I look at that as an opportunity to redevelop downtown in the waterfront.

1492
02:14:40,490 --> 02:14:48,150
And I fully support this ask of the, of the K, K, I keep missing that up.

1493
02:14:48,290 --> 02:14:48,730
APFD.

1494
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:28,700
FD, thank you very much, John. Thank you. That's for dinner. Did you have a remark? Yeah, I just wanted to say, I think everybody, or I shouldn't say everybody, I think a lot of people support the vision that this project would help facilitate. But it also will be a catalyst for major change. I personally believe in downtown Port Orchard. I think you'll see the nature of the services change. I think it'll be transformative. So this is just the first major step in a future Port Orchard.

1495
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:30,900
That's for Morrison.

1496
02:15:31,580 --> 02:15:33,480
I too will vote in favor of this resolution.

1497
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:38,940
I might ask the city attorney in the future to maybe add some more colorful language

1498
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:45,080
in there that might include thanking our partners at the KPFD for their investment in our

1499
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:46,640
projects and just things like that.

1500
02:15:46,780 --> 02:15:49,040
I don't want to go change it now because we're here to approve it.

1501
02:15:49,580 --> 02:15:52,600
So I don't want to do that but maybe just things for in the future.

1502
02:15:53,140 --> 02:15:53,380
Absolutely.

1503
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:55,380
The city attorney's defense.

1504
02:15:56,080 --> 02:15:57,160
It was probably last minute.

1505
02:15:57,160 --> 02:16:03,480
I might have called her about one o'clock today, and I said, I need a favor to choose with another client.

1506
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:10,580
I think I know that about this, and that's why I'm just saying, just things to think about maybe even if he didn't prompt you for that.

1507
02:16:11,220 --> 02:16:20,520
And really, I got this late yesterday, so it's in charge, in the attorney's defense, this was rushed work.

1508
02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:22,800
So Council member deaden.

1509
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:25,220
So I have one question in the statement.

1510
02:16:26,660 --> 02:16:31,560
Why do we have to decide on this resolution now being that we just got it?

1511
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:42,620
The, I am attempting to satisfy a series of questions that I worked on most of the day today from the Kitsett Public Facilities District.

1512
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:50,000
This, their funding is part of our budget process that's coming to you guys next week.

1513
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:53,240
And we need our agreement with them.

1514
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:58,220
I was led to, no, and I presented in late June.

1515
02:16:58,620 --> 02:17:00,060
They meet every other month.

1516
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:08,640
And it's been indicated they're going to hold a special meeting to address this.

1517
02:17:08,900 --> 02:17:15,080
But I did not want to wait to our next council meeting in two weeks to respond to the questions.

1518
02:17:15,080 --> 02:17:23,700
And one of their questions was, or statements, there were questions and statements they wanted a resolution of support from this body.

1519
02:17:24,260 --> 02:17:29,860
I've come and given numerous presentations, I go two or three times a year and

1520
02:17:29,860 --> 02:17:33,660
get presentations to the public facilities board.

1521
02:17:34,060 --> 02:17:38,920
And so anyway, that's the rationale.

1522
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:46,620
But we are meeting next week and I know that this body has made decisions, has deliberated in work studies.

1523
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:54,540
So we do have another week to have this language before us, before making a decision, deliberating.

1524
02:17:55,620 --> 02:18:02,560
Also, I guess like a concern I have, especially with this kind of, you know, with signing up for

1525
02:18:02,560 --> 02:18:10,480
This kind of language and understanding the amount of money that we continue to pour into the event center, is that

1526
02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:19,120
one of the things that you mentioned today, for instance, you said this is like you mentioned it being a wedding venue.

1527
02:18:19,860 --> 02:18:28,820
And I remember seeing community engagement survey that was done in terms of uses for the event center.

1528
02:18:28,820 --> 02:18:34,920
And it stated that the least amount of support was for a wedding venue.

1529
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:47,580
And so as we move forward, and we're thinking about the actual point of a community center that we are hamstring community to our infinity.

1530
02:18:48,140 --> 02:18:54,860
I just want to know that it's actually valuable before I'm signing on to important resolutions like this.

1531
02:18:57,180 --> 02:18:57,820
Thank you.

1532
02:18:57,820 --> 02:19:03,260
The public facilities district with this request is funding 66% of the project.

1533
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:05,900
Other questions or comments?

1534
02:19:07,300 --> 02:19:11,340
You'll be voting on a resolution of support for the community event center.

1535
02:19:12,080 --> 02:19:12,640
All in favor?

1536
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:13,600
Please say aye.

1537
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:14,340
Aye.

1538
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:15,800
Is there anyone opposed?

1539
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:17,560
I'm opposed because I want more time.

1540
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:18,480
All right.

1541
02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:19,740
That passes 6 to 1.

1542
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:20,860
All right.

1543
02:19:20,860 --> 02:19:25,340
All right, we have one discussion item, the clerk's office.

1544
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:30,360
We have bricks and tiles around City Hall, and it's gotten to a point.

1545
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:32,880
We don't urge very much to one of those brick cells.

1546
02:19:33,300 --> 02:19:38,520
We have the cost to have them engraved as exceeding what we're charging for said bricks.

1547
02:19:38,940 --> 02:19:45,160
So I think, I don't mean to steal too much of your thunder, but I think that's the nexus of it.

1548
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:53,420
And is the clerk have a recommendation, tell us, I think there's 75 for a brick, is that correct?

1549
02:19:53,960 --> 02:19:57,200
$100 for brick and $75 for a tile.

1550
02:19:57,440 --> 02:19:58,180
Other way around.

1551
02:19:58,500 --> 02:19:58,980
Oh, sorry.

1552
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:00,300
The tiles are bigger.

1553
02:20:00,580 --> 02:20:00,800
Correct.

1554
02:20:01,420 --> 02:20:05,580
Yep, so $100 for the tiles and 75 for the bricks, did I say that right?

1555
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:13,940
Okay, and they are estimating to be $6 to engrave them no matter the size of the bricks.

1556
02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:21,300
And so we kind of can't visit other jurisdictions to see what other jurisdictions are charging for bricks and tiles.

1557
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:23,420
It's anywhere from $100 to $500.

1558
02:20:24,300 --> 02:20:29,360
A couple of them charge $125, so we are recommending $125 for both.

1559
02:20:29,940 --> 02:20:35,480
This is a hard code, so we can't just administratively do it, so we're looking for a recommendation.

1560
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:39,140
Councillor Murmore, see you have a spot.

1561
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:40,760
What do you want?

1562
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:41,280
You want Jada?

1563
02:20:41,360 --> 02:20:42,000
Jada have a thought.

1564
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:47,240
Well, I want to have a thought, but I want to read the motion because we can't talk about it till we have a motion on the table.

1565
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:50,780
Is there's not a motion, no, it's a discussion.

1566
02:20:51,900 --> 02:20:54,220
We're just given direction and then we'll bring back.

1567
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:59,240
Thank you, I'm sorry, I thought this is a, this is a, this is a, okay, where does the money go?

1568
02:21:00,900 --> 02:21:03,860
So, it goes into, I believe, the general fund.

1569
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:09,460
There was a previous motion in the past when they raised the increase of the bricks and

1570
02:21:09,460 --> 02:21:14,920
tiles, the leftover funds would go towards purchasing garland for

1571
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:17,120
the festival of times and lights.

1572
02:21:18,420 --> 02:21:23,180
So is there a fund out there with a balance in it because we've been collecting this over time?

1573
02:21:24,280 --> 02:21:32,340
Usually, every other time we're over in or over cost and sometimes we're under cost, it's been a wash.

1574
02:21:33,060 --> 02:21:37,340
So we may have, sometimes we'll have, we'll advertise it and

1575
02:21:37,340 --> 02:21:43,720
And we'll have 18 people want to do bricks and tiles, and it costs $1,000 to do it.

1576
02:21:44,220 --> 02:21:48,700
Other times we have five people, and it's going to cost $600 to do it.

1577
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:59,920
And so we've been directed by the finance director or the treasurer at the time to go ahead and move forward because it's been paid for, and it'll offset for the general fund, so it's been a gamut over the years.

1578
02:22:00,220 --> 02:22:02,380
This isn't a money making scheme.

1579
02:22:02,820 --> 02:22:03,020
Correct.

1580
02:22:04,540 --> 02:22:05,720
What is it?

1581
02:22:06,340 --> 02:22:14,200
It is the original creation of it was to help promote the special times and lights.

1582
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:16,960
Because it was a money-making scheme at the time, right?

1583
02:22:17,060 --> 02:22:21,720
Yeah, so they raised the funds to hold festival times and lights and it carried on.

1584
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,620
Yeah, Christmas decorations and things.

1585
02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:24,060
I get it.

1586
02:22:24,320 --> 02:22:24,880
That's my point.

1587
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:25,360
I'm trying to get it.

1588
02:22:25,540 --> 02:22:27,660
It's some point in money-making which is longer.

1589
02:22:28,020 --> 02:22:30,060
It's so fun to fix that or make a goal.

1590
02:22:30,060 --> 02:22:38,320
Well, and if we're not going to use those funds for those funding, to me, it sounds like why do we continue the program?

1591
02:22:38,740 --> 02:22:42,900
Because we still have bricks and tiles that have the ability to be engraved.

1592
02:22:43,660 --> 02:22:46,260
So, so that's what I'm trying to get at.

1593
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:53,100
If that's what we really want to do, and that is the purpose of this, why don't we just make it reflect the actual cost

1594
02:22:55,310 --> 02:22:57,370
or repurpose the program.

1595
02:22:57,370 --> 02:23:01,730
But I think we're about to do a program like that across the way in it.

1596
02:23:02,430 --> 02:23:03,910
I'm just saying I'm in agreement.

1597
02:23:04,330 --> 02:23:05,990
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said anything for a recommendation.

1598
02:23:06,210 --> 02:23:09,690
I would too, which is why I'm trying to say like either we discontinue it or

1599
02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:14,290
we make it at the cost, it takes to do it because if we're not making money,

1600
02:23:14,890 --> 02:23:16,390
why are we still trying to make money?

1601
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:22,390
It makes my head hurt thinking that those government dollars are sitting in there somewhere in our budget and

1602
02:23:22,390 --> 02:23:25,130
Noah can't track that and are we using them right?

1603
02:23:25,130 --> 02:23:27,450
So, that's my two cents on all.

1604
02:23:27,450 --> 02:23:31,250
We haven't made it, we haven't made a more than an effort, any time.

1605
02:23:31,250 --> 02:23:34,930
But even where are those few dollars, because all those dollars go somewhere?

1606
02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:38,690
They went in the General Fund and they got spent somehow.

1607
02:23:39,190 --> 02:23:40,210
So Council Member Rosebethy.

1608
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:42,650
John, I think you got a nickel out of that.

1609
02:23:43,690 --> 02:23:49,410
Just real quickly, I'm all in favor of continuing the program because it does give some exposure.

1610
02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:58,770
And also, I would agree that it covered costs, but not just engraving, also putting, assuming the engraving is not just done in place, or is it?

1611
02:23:59,350 --> 02:24:00,470
Oh, it is done in place, okay.

1612
02:24:00,890 --> 02:24:03,650
Yeah, just as long as we're covering in our cost, I'd be perfectly happy with that.

1613
02:24:03,830 --> 02:24:05,330
You have to count for staff time, too.

1614
02:24:05,810 --> 02:24:06,950
Like a round number.

1615
02:24:06,970 --> 02:24:08,250
That's what you guys have in the thing in mind.

1616
02:24:08,970 --> 02:24:16,010
It's at 175, should it go to 200 and 150 for the other one?

1617
02:24:16,190 --> 02:24:16,650
I don't know.

1618
02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:19,090
We didn't say the number?

1619
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:23,130
It's at 125, 100 times Ann Briggs.

1620
02:24:23,350 --> 02:24:23,450
Yeah.

1621
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:26,290
Okay, she has a recommendation in there.

1622
02:24:26,570 --> 02:24:26,670
Yep.

1623
02:24:28,650 --> 02:24:29,230
Wow.

1624
02:24:29,510 --> 02:24:29,730
All right.

1625
02:24:29,810 --> 02:24:30,590
It was 175.

1626
02:24:31,170 --> 02:24:34,190
So, 125, you can cover our cost with that?

1627
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:35,850
Okay.

1628
02:24:36,470 --> 02:24:36,730
All right.

1629
02:24:37,570 --> 02:24:38,150
Yep.

1630
02:24:38,610 --> 02:24:39,550
All right.

1631
02:24:39,730 --> 02:24:42,430
So we'll bring a resolution back on the consent agenda.

1632
02:24:42,850 --> 02:24:43,430
Hopefully.

1633
02:24:44,130 --> 02:24:44,450
All right.

1634
02:24:44,450 --> 02:24:44,490
All right.

1635
02:24:44,830 --> 02:24:47,030
Good night, expect everybody's name to be out there.

1636
02:24:47,490 --> 02:24:47,670
All right.

1637
02:24:48,290 --> 02:24:49,310
Was that the consensus?

1638
02:24:49,650 --> 02:24:50,090
125?

1639
02:24:50,330 --> 02:24:50,830
You're fine with that?

1640
02:24:51,570 --> 02:24:53,450
Not being passionate.

1641
02:24:53,450 --> 02:24:54,910
Let's go into committee reports.

1642
02:24:56,330 --> 02:24:57,770
Economic Development Tourism.

1643
02:24:57,970 --> 02:24:59,490
You meet on September 14.

1644
02:25:00,370 --> 02:25:02,710
It looks like a new time of 11 a.m.

1645
02:25:03,570 --> 02:25:05,770
And utilities meet met today.

1646
02:25:06,030 --> 02:25:06,150
We did.

1647
02:25:06,630 --> 02:25:07,430
Got a report?

1648
02:25:07,750 --> 02:25:08,090
I do.

1649
02:25:08,590 --> 02:25:13,610
And for brevity's sake, Dennis gave us a great update on all the progress

1650
02:25:13,610 --> 02:25:29,750
So we're going online, the biggest positive news was in Alette Dennis or Noah Sherrett was well-eleven budget versus construction.

1651
02:25:30,050 --> 02:25:33,110
I'll let them talk about it, and that's my report for today.

1652
02:25:34,290 --> 02:25:40,150
Okay, on finance, you meet next Tuesday, and it's going to be all about the budget.

1653
02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:56,710
And then that budget conversation comes to the work study and that'll be most of that meeting evening to transportation mates on September 22nd land use on September 16 and lodging tax likely it's sometime in October on to the

1654
02:25:56,710 --> 02:26:01,390
a quarter of the mayor. I facilitated a meeting with the other three

1655
02:26:01,390 --> 02:26:08,230
mayors and the county commissioners around the county's 1-10th-1% public safety measure.

1656
02:26:08,850 --> 02:26:15,070
As I spoke previously, that councilmatic action by the commissioners would generate $7.5

1657
02:26:15,070 --> 02:26:20,710
million in revenue. New revenue and approximately $5 million of these funds are generated in

1658
02:26:20,710 --> 02:26:26,390
the cities, but the cities receive none of these funds. After our meeting, I gained a

1659
02:26:26,390 --> 02:26:34,450
The biggest driver in this, after our meeting, I gained a better understanding of how the jail is funded.

1660
02:26:35,010 --> 02:26:39,830
And the jail costs $27 million a year to operate.

1661
02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:52,370
And the dead day charges that we pay, roughly $400,000 a year, coupled with the other cities, total $4.8 million a year.

1662
02:26:52,370 --> 02:27:05,990
So, I was backhandedly offered our $1 million, but then the county would like to divide $27 million, $5 ways, and that didn't seem like a very good deal.

1663
02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:16,590
So, while I don't like the county's tax being imposed in our city, they are allowed to do it.

1664
02:27:16,590 --> 02:27:28,750
And there are needs at the county that we benefit from as a city, in particular the operation of the jail that we incarcerate people in.

1665
02:27:29,170 --> 02:27:31,030
So, wish I had better news.

1666
02:27:31,810 --> 02:27:37,290
The public health board next week, I was going to have Dr. Duber come and talk about cratum.

1667
02:27:38,670 --> 02:27:45,930
Since that time, or a matter of a couple of weeks ago, the DEA has made cratum a schedule one substance.

1668
02:27:45,930 --> 02:27:50,030
and it is no longer available, so I have canceled that presentation next week.

1669
02:27:50,990 --> 02:27:59,750
The senior center, I don't have the silver bullet, but I did have a meeting on Friday with Commissioner Rude on another matter.

1670
02:28:00,510 --> 02:28:12,030
And I talked to him about the senior center, and while he's written, the county's written the seniors group a letter that really hasn't been a sit down and to talk about this.

1671
02:28:12,030 --> 02:28:22,310
And so, I facilitated and I've reached out to Nancy and Fran, who are the President and the Vice President.

1672
02:28:22,450 --> 02:28:28,830
I talked to them today, and we're going to meet in Commissioner Root's office on September 18th.

1673
02:28:28,890 --> 02:28:34,310
I briefed our representative Richards on this situation today.

1674
02:28:34,310 --> 02:28:57,430
I think short-term solutions and talking to Commissioner Walters and it sounds like our senior group is on this path, is forming their own legal entities so that they can solicit grants and donations and have some way to put those into a bank account and open a bank account and do those things.

1675
02:28:57,430 --> 02:29:02,670
The group in Silverdale has done something similar to that according to Commissioner Walters.

1676
02:29:03,410 --> 02:29:07,310
And our senior group is on that path right now.

1677
02:29:09,870 --> 02:29:15,190
And I think the long-term solution is our parks and wrecks levy.

1678
02:29:15,430 --> 02:29:22,510
And I've already seen a rendering of what a rebuilt active club up at Gibbons looks like.

1679
02:29:22,510 --> 02:29:33,150
It's $5 million, but that's going to take a vote of our citizens or grants from the state, or it's a long-term solution.

1680
02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:42,590
It's not a tomorrow solution, and we've got to find some solutions and some fundraising opportunities for these folks to rent something somewhere.

1681
02:29:42,590 --> 02:29:48,310
And so that's Commissioner Root did say that while everybody's been given

1682
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:28,780
Given that June date, and that's when they intend to market the building, and that's when the end of the school year is when the Montessori needs to be out of there, that just because they're going to market it doesn't mean it's sold. Everybody needs to plan for the worst case scenario, but that isn't a drop dead date. When the building sells, that's when people are actually going to have to be out. That's what he communicated to me.

1683
02:30:28,780 --> 02:30:34,740
And that's what he needs to communicate to these individuals, and hopefully we have a good

1684
02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:39,340
meeting here in a couple of weeks. So, is that Councilmember Morrissey motion? Nope. Councilmember

1685
02:30:39,340 --> 02:30:39,600
Devin?

1686
02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:42,480
Have the lease holders been given a first-right-of-fusel?

1687
02:30:44,500 --> 02:30:44,620
Yes.

1688
02:30:45,240 --> 02:30:46,960
I'm certain anybody could buy the building.

1689
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:49,040
That's what I'm saying. Is that on the table?

1690
02:30:49,860 --> 02:30:50,160
I don't know.

1691
02:30:50,180 --> 02:30:51,440
You'd have to ask. I'm not showing the building.

1692
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:53,940
I'm not showing the building.

1693
02:30:55,180 --> 02:30:57,940
I'm not showing the building. So, anyone could buy that?

1694
02:30:57,940 --> 02:31:00,840
You were having conversations, I didn't know if you had had a conversation about that.

1695
02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:05,200
I haven't seen what the terms are, what the sale price are.

1696
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:10,300
I have no knowledge of that, so I just, so.

1697
02:31:11,780 --> 02:31:21,680
And lastly, last Friday, the Kitsap Transit every four years is required to hold a board composition committee.

1698
02:31:22,260 --> 02:31:24,660
And we met Friday for a few hours.

1699
02:31:24,660 --> 02:31:31,280
members discussed different options around board structure, and at the end of the day,

1700
02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:39,900
no changes to the Board of Commissioners Board.

1701
02:31:40,520 --> 02:31:42,200
And that ends my report.

1702
02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:48,680
And I've got Department Directors, Mr. Go ahead, sir.

1703
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:52,340
Mr. Ryan, it's been a long night.

1704
02:31:52,340 --> 02:31:57,520
Good evening, everybody. Just a couple brief updates. Councilmember Rosa Pepe mentioned

1705
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:04,040
well 11 and Director Crocker gave a final report tonight. The final budget was, and as

1706
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:07,920
you saw tonight when we're talking about the community event center, we have a total

1707
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:12,880
project budget. So the well 11 came in just under a million dollars with the total project

1708
02:32:12,880 --> 02:32:18,080
budget. So even though we had change orders, as often as the case, we still come below our

1709
02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:20,240
our total project budget, so that was good news.

1710
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:25,000
And I also wanted to talk tonight, we are about a week away from wrapping up with our

1711
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:28,500
localized paving that the Kitsap County is conducting throughout town.

1712
02:32:28,980 --> 02:32:30,040
That's going very, very well.

1713
02:32:30,460 --> 02:32:34,160
We're also going to start back up with the Sydney Project where that private contractor is going

1714
02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:35,100
to mobilize out.

1715
02:32:35,540 --> 02:32:37,580
I've reached out to the principals of both schools.

1716
02:32:37,880 --> 02:32:41,920
I made it myself and staff available to a weekly meeting if they want to.

1717
02:32:42,440 --> 02:32:47,700
If anybody hears of any questions, concerns, tell them to please reach out to our office and

1718
02:32:47,700 --> 02:32:49,180
and we'll try to mitigate those questions.

1719
02:32:49,460 --> 02:32:50,920
I've answered a lot of those emails today.

1720
02:32:51,920 --> 02:32:55,120
I think they mobilized this end of this week, I believe,

1721
02:32:55,340 --> 02:32:56,480
start on that project, so.

1722
02:32:56,740 --> 02:32:57,200
Mr. Crocker.

1723
02:32:57,260 --> 02:32:58,900
Oh, can I ask a question, Director Rain?

1724
02:32:59,060 --> 02:33:02,140
Sorry, Director Rain, who was doing the work outside on,

1725
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:04,800
I don't know if it's Beach Drive, Bay Street right out there,

1726
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:06,200
in front of Whiskey-Gulps, just wanted.

1727
02:33:06,780 --> 02:33:07,380
That is the county.

1728
02:33:07,780 --> 02:33:11,300
Would you give them feedback that their folks are probably

1729
02:33:11,720 --> 02:33:14,560
some of the best flaggers I've ever been a part of?

1730
02:33:15,020 --> 02:33:17,560
We had our rotary meeting getting out right as they were doing

1731
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:21,000
right there, they couldn't have had more chaotic of a mess.

1732
02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:25,360
And for two people to handle that the way they did, they nailed it.

1733
02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:27,160
So please pass that along.

1734
02:33:27,400 --> 02:33:29,700
Thank you, Mr. Cracker.

1735
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:37,340
I'll just be brief, I wanted to answer Rose Peppie's question, the director of our answer to it, savings of $1.1 million.

1736
02:33:37,860 --> 02:33:41,680
Total project cost was $8.4 million, we came in right to about $7.3 million.

1737
02:33:41,880 --> 02:33:45,080
So great project, great success story, great job, how it works.

1738
02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:47,880
But we don't have a million dollars in found money.

1739
02:33:48,200 --> 02:33:51,060
We had a loan and we reduced the obligation of the loans.

1740
02:33:51,580 --> 02:33:57,740
Yeah, so financially it was a lot more than 1.1 million dollars because it would have been a borrowing that we would have had to repay or a time.

1741
02:33:57,980 --> 02:33:59,340
So even more savings.

1742
02:34:02,330 --> 02:34:03,870
Ms. Lein, do you have anything to report?

1743
02:34:04,930 --> 02:34:05,530
I do.

1744
02:34:06,530 --> 02:34:13,130
As you know, I need to report to you anytime we make a change in the job description or a city policy.

1745
02:34:13,850 --> 02:34:15,950
Last reported to you three months ago.

1746
02:34:15,950 --> 02:34:20,150
We have updated one policy, that is the bilingual pay policy.

1747
02:34:20,370 --> 02:34:23,490
We added a clarification as to when that would be effective.

1748
02:34:24,510 --> 02:34:28,050
And we have updated 14 job descriptions.

1749
02:34:28,510 --> 02:34:31,630
If you want to buckle up, I can go through the list, or

1750
02:34:31,630 --> 02:34:35,530
I can just let you know that it's all housekeeping in nature, and

1751
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:39,650
no substantial changes, just a constant continual process.

1752
02:34:40,090 --> 02:34:40,730
So thank you.

1753
02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:47,640
I just wanted to thank you all for accommodating me these past few months.

1754
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:52,820
I'm happy to be back in person and looking forward to diving back in in person.

1755
02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:57,980
So I will be here next Tuesday, not next Tuesday, but the following Tuesday all day for office hours.

1756
02:34:57,980 --> 02:35:01,480
If anyone wanted to chat about anything, I should be here at to be all day.

1757
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:02,360
Thanks so much.

1758
02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:03,600
Deputy Chief Brande.

1759
02:35:04,940 --> 02:35:08,200
Yeah, we've had one officer just get off of his training phase.

1760
02:35:08,400 --> 02:35:09,620
So he's on his own now in the street.

1761
02:35:09,620 --> 02:35:10,200
So that's great.

1762
02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:16,220
Great, we got another one, hopefully doing that soon, and we got two graduating academy in the beginning of next month, and then one at the end of the month.

1763
02:35:16,380 --> 02:35:19,160
So we're still busy with our training, but we're seeing some progress.

1764
02:35:20,260 --> 02:35:21,800
Thank you, Ms. Wallace.

1765
02:35:22,820 --> 02:35:28,780
Just a couple of things, just a reminder that we are opening up for committee members for lodging tax.

1766
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:35,660
So we're trying to get the wrapped up and brought before you to confirm the mayor's appointment, probably the end of September.

1767
02:35:35,660 --> 02:35:44,260
hoping to get the community together in October to provide you recommendations for your approval for the next biennial of lodging tax dollars.

1768
02:35:45,480 --> 02:36:00,340
The other thing is I did confirm with the Kitsette Community Society Animal Control, they will be at the Land Use Committee to bring forth some additional code modifications based on some recent activities that has occurred in the city limits.

1769
02:36:00,340 --> 02:36:12,680
as well as the proposal to handle the licensing of pets solely from them versus half the city in our mix of the city and animal control.

1770
02:36:13,060 --> 02:36:19,680
So they should be there, and then hopefully before you guys for final approval, they're contract for the next meeting.

1771
02:36:20,460 --> 02:36:23,800
Do we know which land use committee meeting they will be at?

1772
02:36:23,980 --> 02:36:26,520
At the September one, the 15th, next week I think.

1773
02:36:26,880 --> 02:36:27,720
Okay, next week, yeah.

1774
02:36:35,670 --> 02:36:40,470
If we can get the contract ready together by then, but I suspect probably not until October.

1775
02:36:42,730 --> 02:36:43,850
Yeah, okay.

1776
02:36:45,190 --> 02:36:52,590
Code was a different track than the contract for services, so but we need to update our code and

1777
02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:59,130
that's going to go through a process through land use first and probably make a stop at work study in October and November.

1778
02:36:59,130 --> 02:37:04,810
All right. With that, I'm going to go to our second citizen comment period. If there's

1779
02:37:04,810 --> 02:37:09,770
anyone wishing to address the council, anybody online use the Raise Your Hand Feature and

1780
02:37:09,770 --> 02:37:15,170
the clerk would bring you into the meeting. All right. I'm not saying anybody rushing the

1781
02:37:15,170 --> 02:37:21,270
podium, so I'm going to close this in comment period. And anything for the good of the order?

1782
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:26,670
Council member Warden, go ahead. I do. I would really like to entertain

1783
02:37:28,850 --> 02:37:33,910
council by committee that John mentioned. I'd like to just maybe have a

1784
02:37:33,910 --> 02:37:40,010
during a work study to consider that discuss it and maybe come January we give it a

1785
02:37:40,010 --> 02:37:45,390
shot. We cancel a lot of a lot of meetings. There's a lot of meetings that I

1786
02:37:45,390 --> 02:37:53,770
turn on I watch online. I watch online, to be honest with you, but I think

1787
02:37:53,770 --> 02:38:01,030
be productive for us all to gain the knowledge that everyone is gaining, not watch the presentation

1788
02:38:01,030 --> 02:38:05,390
during a committee, then turn around how the presentation in the work study, then

1789
02:38:05,390 --> 02:38:10,970
how the presentation up here as well. It's pretty redundant. But I would like to possibly

1790
02:38:10,970 --> 02:38:17,210
give it a shot. Showing up here today at 6 o'clock wasn't a big deal. 5.30. We do that two

1791
02:38:17,210 --> 02:38:21,530
times a week, two times a month anyhow, that we're on Zoom, and then we rushed to get here.

1792
02:38:22,190 --> 02:38:24,950
I went at my start in a little bit earlier.

1793
02:38:25,410 --> 02:38:30,910
I talked to John and I went and brought it up and I spoke to Paul's bill a couple of

1794
02:38:30,910 --> 02:38:34,650
people over there and they enjoyed doing that.

1795
02:38:36,170 --> 02:38:38,090
One more thing is-

1796
02:38:38,090 --> 02:38:38,630
So I'll pull on that.

1797
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:39,310
Put that one.

1798
02:38:40,730 --> 02:38:44,330
We're going to be immersed in budget here for the next couple of months.

1799
02:38:45,470 --> 02:38:48,850
How about potentially the November work study?

1800
02:38:48,850 --> 02:38:58,970
If it's not too busy, we dive into that, and then that could meet your timeline, if there's going to be changes, because then we've got to amend our code and do a few things to make that layout.

1801
02:38:59,110 --> 02:39:06,210
I don't have a timeline, right? I just kind of want to throw it out there that we'll see if we can get on there and just to entertain it, see how it looks.

1802
02:39:06,490 --> 02:39:13,130
Hopefully we can get there in November. We typically take a Christmas break and don't have a December work study, but no later in January.

1803
02:39:13,130 --> 02:39:13,350
Sure.

1804
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:16,750
The question regarding the cracker.

1805
02:39:18,610 --> 02:39:25,330
Now does our contractor, do they, do you out and find the artist to do that, and whatnot?

1806
02:39:25,570 --> 02:39:27,930
Or who goes out and finds the artist for that?

1807
02:39:28,570 --> 02:39:32,010
Their question, it won't be the general contractor.

1808
02:39:32,270 --> 02:39:40,330
Not the contractor, I apologize, our architects, our design team, that we will commission that

1809
02:39:40,330 --> 02:39:48,170
that piece of art and same way with somebody will build that and then our general likely, the scenario is,

1810
02:39:48,290 --> 02:39:54,450
or could be having the order to contract yet, then they will install that with help from the artist.

1811
02:39:54,710 --> 02:40:03,730
And same way with that two-story art piece inside, same way we're going to commission a piece of art.

1812
02:40:04,310 --> 02:40:09,190
And there's probably not a ton of places that can do either one of those things.

1813
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:15,350
So I, you know, life is, I've bought somebody, they're talking about what his mom does for

1814
02:40:15,350 --> 02:40:16,330
living because little Stan wants.

1815
02:40:17,270 --> 02:40:25,910
And I'm going to give Miss Wallace a link to send out, literally it's what she does,

1816
02:40:26,550 --> 02:40:29,750
all over the country, and it is amazing.

1817
02:40:30,230 --> 02:40:34,130
She works from Stan Wands, but Colorado and Utah is where they have to advocate it.

1818
02:40:35,250 --> 02:40:37,930
It is, her work is just unbelievable.

1819
02:40:37,930 --> 02:40:42,290
I was jaw-dropped, and the only my mind was that crack in.

1820
02:40:43,730 --> 02:40:50,930
So, remember when we do government work, they need to be on the MSRC, is it MSRC?

1821
02:40:51,050 --> 02:40:53,570
It's something, it's an acronym, what's the list they have to be on?

1822
02:40:53,950 --> 02:40:54,450
Or did it go on?

1823
02:40:54,450 --> 02:40:58,530
The rosters, but there are deviations we can do for our, like we've done with the mural projects.

1824
02:40:58,930 --> 02:41:03,050
So, again, don't know where, I just want to, I'll send out the link,

1825
02:41:05,390 --> 02:41:06,570
and

1826
02:41:06,570 --> 02:41:12,890
You know, as someone that does it, that is, I don't know, maybe take a trip and once, and go meet somebody.

1827
02:41:13,250 --> 02:41:20,810
But it's pretty cool to see that, and so I'm going to share that information with Brandy and she gets it though.

1828
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:26,630
Okay, so just if I can follow on that, what is the materials that are contemplated for this?

1829
02:41:27,930 --> 02:41:33,790
It's cast deal, I don't know, I don't know yet, I mean, I don't have the specifications for it.

1830
02:41:33,790 --> 02:41:39,830
Or there's going to be a process for us to just elicit the artwork I think.

1831
02:41:39,850 --> 02:41:40,790
Yeah, I want it to be a nice.

1832
02:41:40,830 --> 02:41:45,010
And he's got to be durable, because while it's not designed to be climbed on,

1833
02:41:45,430 --> 02:41:46,750
it gets him climb on it, it's right outside.

1834
02:41:46,930 --> 02:41:47,950
Oh, for sure, for sure.

1835
02:41:49,170 --> 02:41:50,910
All right, anything else for the good of the order?

1836
02:41:51,230 --> 02:41:52,170
Can comes by Rose Beppie.

1837
02:41:52,310 --> 02:41:56,790
A couple things, we're not obviously not doing a procedure's review tonight.

1838
02:41:57,350 --> 02:42:02,130
I have asked the mayor for 30 minutes that next week's work study, so.

1839
02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:13,050
I'm asking for it if you have on that, Scott sent out coffee with Council notes from Saturday.

1840
02:42:13,390 --> 02:42:15,670
We had a very robust discussion and a couple items.

1841
02:42:15,950 --> 02:42:21,090
I have to put my comments together, a couple people I talked to separately from that.

1842
02:42:21,730 --> 02:42:28,390
And most importantly, just a reminder for the public that the election is Tuesday, November 3rd.

1843
02:42:28,390 --> 02:42:34,090
And please register to vote if you haven't, and you can go on live to the auditor's office.

1844
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:36,810
Kitsap County and check your registration.

1845
02:42:37,530 --> 02:42:46,370
The last time there was a non-presidential election, only 66.4% of the eligible voters voted and we can do better.

1846
02:42:46,970 --> 02:42:48,970
So please vote.

1847
02:42:49,610 --> 02:42:49,930
Thank you.

1848
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:50,790
Okay.

1849
02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:52,230
Council Member Deena.

1850
02:42:52,230 --> 02:43:01,750
So back in April, Nick sent out an email on SmartGov implementation and it had some milestones

1851
02:43:01,750 --> 02:43:03,130
including in September.

1852
02:43:05,340 --> 02:43:10,550
So are we slated to get an update on where DCD is and it's permitting improvements?

1853
02:43:10,750 --> 02:43:14,690
I'm certainly going to give you one at the end of the month.

1854
02:43:14,690 --> 02:43:20,630
I know that we're close to going live on the new, on the smart gov updates, but

1855
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:31,170
I'm not sure, it's very close, it's in October, at some point, where we go live with the new system provided everything.

1856
02:43:32,430 --> 02:43:35,150
Yeah, portal, it says portal live in September.

1857
02:43:35,910 --> 02:43:41,230
Okay, but so there's some global changes of which this is just a part of that.

1858
02:43:41,230 --> 02:43:43,890
Yes, I would like to hear more about the global improvement.

1859
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:50,490
Mr. Bond has gone at a conference this week, so I'm just going to go ahead.

1860
02:43:50,970 --> 02:43:51,970
Going to go very here.

1861
02:43:52,270 --> 02:43:58,370
So, as we all know, Ms. Deli Parton died a couple of weeks ago.

1862
02:43:58,670 --> 02:44:06,050
And one of the things that I have just always admired about her, at least once I found out about it,

1863
02:44:06,130 --> 02:44:08,990
was her commitment to community service and others.

1864
02:44:08,990 --> 02:44:12,450
and especially the Dolly Parton Imagination Library.

1865
02:44:13,740 --> 02:44:18,110
I remember seeing a Facebook meme circulating around kind of joking,

1866
02:44:18,470 --> 02:44:27,990
but also serious, that like Star Wars fans claim May 4th as a way of celebrating Star Wars fandom,

1867
02:44:28,610 --> 02:44:34,470
that September 25th or 9 to 5, like the movie The Dolly Parton, start in,

1868
02:44:34,470 --> 02:44:40,390
would actually be a wonderful day to celebrate, not only her life and legacy, but the things

1869
02:44:40,390 --> 02:44:46,850
that she really stood for. And it kind of germinated an idea for me of, like, wouldn't

1870
02:44:46,850 --> 02:44:54,190
it be great for the city to kind of just support that same sort of idea, especially

1871
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,140
I'm actually around childhood literacy. And so I'm in the process right now of trying to figure out how the city might be able to put, you know, some, some, at least name behind that. I don't want to use any other kind of, like, three sources. I touched with the Ahmed Library at this over some other ideas. I know I sent one to you, Mayor Rob, Mayor Robbotton, possibly a proclamation down the road. So, haven't heard back, well, haven't checked my email.

1872
02:45:29,140 --> 02:45:32,820
So I apologize for that, but I guess we'll just see where that goes.

1873
02:45:33,020 --> 02:45:40,080
I wanted to put that out there that I hope it is a win-win for everyone to honor not only that legacy, but to make our community better.

1874
02:45:41,280 --> 02:45:43,140
Mr. Mayor, if I may follow on to that.

1875
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:54,140
One of the things I'd like to talk about at some point, work study, or maybe even retreat is more regular proclamations of certain issues and events that we know other jurisdictions celebrate.

1876
02:45:54,140 --> 02:46:02,860
And I think some people in the audience tonight said, you know, we speak to DEI, but we don't necessarily live it or talk it the way we should.

1877
02:46:03,060 --> 02:46:08,840
So I'd like to pull the bandaid off and get that discussion underway.

1878
02:46:10,840 --> 02:46:13,800
I'd like to piggyback off of that because I wanted to bring that back up.

1879
02:46:15,200 --> 02:46:22,500
Right now we tabled inclusion to talk to a committee that doesn't deal with it.

1880
02:46:22,500 --> 02:46:28,580
It was an employee committee that isn't made to deal with city policies.

1881
02:46:28,780 --> 02:46:30,180
That's what city council is for.

1882
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:36,720
And so, if that was like a motion, I'll second that wherever you want to put that, that

1883
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:37,460
we put that back.

1884
02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:46,980
We have a discussion in the work study to start following up on, I said there's a term

1885
02:46:46,980 --> 02:46:48,360
I'm putting in here with money when all this.

1886
02:46:50,340 --> 02:46:56,120
Also, to talk about that too, is that there were concerns at the town hall

1887
02:46:56,120 --> 02:46:59,880
took place at a church.

1888
02:47:00,780 --> 02:47:04,840
And I feel like these are things that if we took inclusion a little bit more seriously,

1889
02:47:05,160 --> 02:47:07,260
we would have had a conversation about that earlier on.

1890
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:15,040
And so, yeah, and then the other things I wanted to bring up were,

1891
02:47:17,340 --> 02:47:25,860
I know that I am not this body's favorite person, but I was really disturbed that in the Utilities Committee today.

1892
02:47:26,680 --> 02:47:32,300
Last week, I asked for an agenda item to be put on the Utilities Committee agenda.

1893
02:47:32,920 --> 02:47:38,520
And it was something that further rules we have discussed in person via email.

1894
02:47:38,520 --> 02:47:54,460
very clearly it was within the rules to be on the agenda and there was pushback on put on me and I didn't appreciate that because we keep taught we I don't like for people to tell me the rules reiterate the rules and then somehow they don't apply to me and then the second part is

1895
02:47:55,460 --> 02:48:06,200
about rules that apply to me but not to other people. Let's talk about Roberts rules because people love to get on me about talking over people and you see time and time again others doing the same

1896
02:48:06,200 --> 02:48:09,640
to the point that I couldn't even understand what was happening earlier.

1897
02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:14,580
It's too many people talking at me for a question when I was seeking response to a question.

1898
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:22,140
So I would just ask for fairness when we hold my knee to a standard that the body holds themselves to that standard.

1899
02:48:22,980 --> 02:48:32,520
And then last, when I mentioned earlier today, the issue of the public hearing, you saw that that wasn't taken well.

1900
02:48:33,360 --> 02:48:50,540
However, I hope that you notice that the fact that we did not notice that public hearing correctly that we did not make it clear, that we did not have as a body of the authority to deliberate on whether we would support, support, initiative, the most confusion.

1901
02:48:50,540 --> 02:49:05,200
And to evidence the confusion, we saw the general manager of KPUD say multiple times as you make your decision consider, as you, City Council, make your decision consider.

1902
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:15,820
So again, if when I bring these things up, they are not to embarrass, they are just to make us better as a body, thank you.

1903
02:49:20,170 --> 02:49:30,050
Yeah, so this weekend you have a great opportunity in front of you to a 10-night market.

1904
02:49:30,930 --> 02:49:32,450
It's the last one of the year.

1905
02:49:33,230 --> 02:49:40,750
It's right down here on the, I don't remember all the great adjectives that Jay used in describing our waterfront that Scott gave in.

1906
02:49:41,410 --> 02:49:45,670
Down here on our waterfront, we're going to put that to use even before we make it beautiful.

1907
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:50,650
And I'm super excited, because I love to see the people in our spaces.

1908
02:49:51,370 --> 02:49:56,890
No matter what our spaces look like, they always look vibrant with the people in them.

1909
02:49:57,490 --> 02:50:02,990
So come and join that with me this weekend, and that's what I have to say.

1910
02:50:03,170 --> 02:50:06,470
Go Hawks, more beautiful, it's already beautiful.

1911
02:50:06,590 --> 02:50:08,530
Yes, more beautiful, more beautiful.

1912
02:50:08,970 --> 02:50:10,510
All right, that meeting is adjourned.

1913
02:50:13,420 --> 02:50:14,820
Recording stopped.