1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:07,286 We will begin the working 2 00:00:07,286 --> 00:00:08,768 session of the Council of the Association of 3 00:00:08,768 --> 00:00:09,719 Police 4 00:00:09,719 --> 00:00:10,593 Charities 5 00:00:10,593 --> 00:00:11,658 on 6 00:00:11,658 --> 00:00:13,026 Thursday, September 3, 7 00:00:13,026 --> 00:00:14,146 2026. Please 8 00:00:14,146 --> 00:00:19,237 stand for the oath. 9 00:00:19,237 --> 00:00:20,204 I pledge 10 00:00:20,204 --> 00:00:21,271 allegiance to the flag of the 11 00:00:21,271 --> 00:00:22,405 United States of 12 00:00:22,405 --> 00:00:23,073 America and to 13 00:00:23,073 --> 00:00:24,273 the republic it 14 00:00:24,273 --> 00:00:26,132 represents. One nation 15 00:00:26,132 --> 00:00:27,429 under God, indivisible 16 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:28,394 , with liberty and 17 00:00:28,394 --> 00:00:29,591 justice for 18 00:00:29,591 --> 00:00:33,931 all. 19 00:00:33,931 --> 00:00:35,159 Secretary, please 20 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,820 take a 21 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:36,582 roll call. 22 00:00:36,582 --> 00:00:37,741 Mayor John Cooper is 23 00:00:37,741 --> 00:00:38,163 here. 24 00:00:38,163 --> 00:00:39,669 Vice Mayor Chris Meyer is 25 00:00:39,669 --> 00:00:40,090 here. 26 00:00:40,090 --> 00:00:41,237 Councilman Robert 27 00:00:41,237 --> 00:00:41,781 Hubbard is 28 00:00:41,781 --> 00:00:43,276 here. Council member Lisa 29 00:00:43,276 --> 00:00:43,702 Burke is 30 00:00:43,702 --> 00:00:44,100 here. 31 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:45,333 Council member Christine 32 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:46,032 Sullivan is 33 00:00:46,032 --> 00:00:46,425 here. 34 00:00:46,425 --> 00:00:47,396 City Attorney 35 00:00:47,396 --> 00:00:48,377 Nancy Meyer is here. 36 00:00:48,377 --> 00:00:49,438 Acting 37 00:00:49,438 --> 00:00:50,417 City Manager 38 00:00:50,417 --> 00:00:50,953 Salikeri is 39 00:00:50,953 --> 00:00:51,363 here. 40 00:00:51,363 --> 00:00:52,734 Thank you. The first point 41 00:00:52,734 --> 00:00:53,436 is comments from 42 00:00:53,436 --> 00:00:54,303 the public. And 43 00:00:54,303 --> 00:00:55,360 we still don't have any 44 00:00:55,379 --> 00:00:55,984 public representatives at the 45 00:00:55,984 --> 00:00:56,617 meeting. So I'm 46 00:00:56,617 --> 00:00:57,509 closing the time for 47 00:00:57,526 --> 00:00:58,099 public comment. 48 00:00:58,099 --> 00:00:58,531 Let's move on to the 49 00:00:58,531 --> 00:00:59,164 city 50 00:00:59,164 --> 00:00:59,836 manager's comments. I'll give the 51 00:00:59,836 --> 00:01:00,450 floor to Mr. Carey for 52 00:01:00,450 --> 00:01:01,062 his comments. 53 00:01:01,062 --> 00:01:02,012 They are gone now. 54 00:01:02,012 --> 00:01:02,852 OK. Moving 55 00:01:02,852 --> 00:01:03,417 on to the 56 00:01:03,417 --> 00:01:04,099 city prosecutor's comments. 57 00:01:04,099 --> 00:01:04,754 Miss, do you have any 58 00:01:04,754 --> 00:01:05,334 comments? 59 00:01:05,334 --> 00:01:05,717 No. 60 00:01:05,717 --> 00:01:06,971 OK. Thank you. 61 00:01:06,971 --> 00:01:07,797 Next up is 62 00:01:07,797 --> 00:01:08,773 Council agenda item 63 00:01:08,773 --> 00:01:10,250 number one: an agreement between the 64 00:01:10,275 --> 00:01:10,901 Police 65 00:01:10,901 --> 00:01:11,477 Benevolent Association 66 00:01:11,477 --> 00:01:12,328 (PBA) and 67 00:01:12,328 --> 00:01:13,229 the City of Port Richey for 68 00:01:13,229 --> 00:01:14,336 2026-2029. I will hand it over to 69 00:01:14,336 --> 00:01:15,312 Mr. O'Carey for 70 00:01:15,312 --> 00:01:17,020 presentation. 71 00:01:17,057 --> 00:01:18,458 Port Richey Police Association, 72 00:01:18,458 --> 00:01:19,918 oh my god. 73 00:01:19,918 --> 00:01:21,079 Thank you, gentlemen, 74 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:22,195 the Association (PBA) 75 00:01:22,195 --> 00:01:23,847 has opened seven articles 76 00:01:23,847 --> 00:01:25,321 for discussion as 77 00:01:25,321 --> 00:01:26,929 part of negotiations 78 00:01:26,929 --> 00:01:27,911 for a new 79 00:01:27,911 --> 00:01:29,519 contract for 2026-2029 80 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:31,732 . The negotiations 81 00:01:31,732 --> 00:01:33,008 were conducted with the participation of myself 82 00:01:33,008 --> 00:01:34,251 , the city prosecutor, 83 00:01:34,251 --> 00:01:35,102 and the 84 00:01:35,102 --> 00:01:37,282 police chief. As 85 00:01:37,282 --> 00:01:38,298 a result of these 86 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:40,013 discussions, the 87 00:01:40,045 --> 00:01:40,553 city's negotiating team and 88 00:01:40,553 --> 00:01:41,474 PBA representatives 89 00:01:41,474 --> 00:01:42,680 reached a preliminary 90 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,950 agreement on a contract 91 00:01:43,950 --> 00:01:45,157 that would remain 92 00:01:45,157 --> 00:01:46,395 in effect without review 93 00:01:46,395 --> 00:01:48,269 until 2029 unless the 94 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:49,443 November 95 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:50,682 property tax measure is approved 96 00:01:50,682 --> 00:01:52,899 . So, we have a 97 00:01:52,899 --> 00:01:54,040 preliminary agreement for 98 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,659 three years with a 99 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:55,475 provision for 100 00:01:55,475 --> 00:01:59,619 increased payments. 101 00:01:59,619 --> 00:02:00,792 If this 102 00:02:00,792 --> 00:02:01,900 issue passes in November, we 103 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:02,943 will be able to open 104 00:02:02,943 --> 00:02:03,791 negotiations and 105 00:02:03,791 --> 00:02:05,029 discuss the next 106 00:02:05,029 --> 00:02:08,895 two years of the agreement. 107 00:02:08,895 --> 00:02:09,923 If the City Council 108 00:02:09,923 --> 00:02:10,787 agrees to the 109 00:02:10,787 --> 00:02:11,816 proposed 110 00:02:11,816 --> 00:02:13,010 terms, the agreement will be 111 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:14,006 submitted to 112 00:02:14,006 --> 00:02:15,135 Port Richey police officers, 113 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:16,031 represented by 114 00:02:16,031 --> 00:02:17,060 the union, for 115 00:02:17,060 --> 00:02:18,284 ratification. After 116 00:02:18,284 --> 00:02:18,965 ratification 117 00:02:18,965 --> 00:02:20,151 by the union, the contract 118 00:02:20,151 --> 00:02:21,219 will be presented to 119 00:02:21,219 --> 00:02:22,138 the city council for 120 00:02:22,138 --> 00:02:22,819 final 121 00:02:22,819 --> 00:02:25,866 approval. So, I 122 00:02:25,866 --> 00:02:26,932 can go through 123 00:02:26,932 --> 00:02:28,205 specific articles 124 00:02:28,205 --> 00:02:29,512 if you want me to 125 00:02:29,512 --> 00:02:32,267 point out the changes. Um, 126 00:02:32,267 --> 00:02:32,821 yes, 127 00:02:32,821 --> 00:02:33,901 please do that 128 00:02:33,901 --> 00:02:35,413 . Give me a 129 00:02:35,413 --> 00:02:40,861 minute. 130 00:02:40,861 --> 00:02:41,848 So, let's start with 131 00:02:41,848 --> 00:02:42,737 article one, the 132 00:02:42,737 --> 00:02:43,790 preamble, we're 133 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:44,778 actually just 134 00:02:44,778 --> 00:02:47,118 changing a few words here. There's nothing there 135 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:48,361 that would actually 136 00:02:48,361 --> 00:02:49,158 affect the 137 00:02:49,158 --> 00:02:50,178 contract one way or the 138 00:02:50,178 --> 00:02:52,808 other. It's just that the PBA 139 00:02:52,808 --> 00:02:54,152 noticed that it 140 00:02:54,152 --> 00:02:55,359 said "Hillsboro County 141 00:02:55,359 --> 00:02:56,220 Police 142 00:02:56,220 --> 00:02:58,220 Benevolent Association 143 00:02:58,254 --> 00:02:59,392 " and they 144 00:02:59,392 --> 00:03:01,885 wanted to remove it. 145 00:03:01,885 --> 00:03:05,669 So, this is article one. 146 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:06,958 Was this in our contract all this time 147 00:03:06,958 --> 00:03:08,090 ? 148 00:03:08,090 --> 00:03:09,396 Yes. And they just, 149 00:03:09,396 --> 00:03:10,578 they noticed it. 150 00:03:10,578 --> 00:03:14,951 So, uh, same thing with 151 00:03:14,951 --> 00:03:16,100 article six, 152 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:17,948 basically wording changes. 153 00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:18,698 Um, they removed 154 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:19,774 Hillsborough County, 155 00:03:19,774 --> 00:03:20,883 maybe that's what they were 156 00:03:20,883 --> 00:03:21,894 known by 157 00:03:21,894 --> 00:03:23,157 . I actually, I do 158 00:03:23,157 --> 00:03:24,238 n't, I don't remember if 159 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:25,262 we asked about it or 160 00:03:25,262 --> 00:03:26,177 not. Were they, were 161 00:03:26,177 --> 00:03:27,729 they known as the 162 00:03:27,752 --> 00:03:28,417 Hillsborough County Association? That 163 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:29,315 has changed, or that's what they 164 00:03:29,315 --> 00:03:29,813 used to 165 00:03:29,813 --> 00:03:30,992 be called. Good. 166 00:03:30,992 --> 00:03:32,042 So, it wasn't 167 00:03:32,042 --> 00:03:32,760 always like this. 168 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,876 Official documents 169 00:03:33,876 --> 00:03:35,078 change. It was 170 00:03:35,078 --> 00:03:36,148 n't that long ago. So 171 00:03:36,148 --> 00:03:37,122 maybe this is the first 172 00:03:37,122 --> 00:03:38,154 time they've had the 173 00:03:38,154 --> 00:03:38,900 opportunity to 174 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:50,099 do this. Article 10 is 175 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:52,689 essentially their, uh, 176 00:03:52,728 --> 00:03:53,926 complaints procedures, and there were 177 00:03:53,926 --> 00:03:54,738 a few, uh, 178 00:03:54,738 --> 00:03:56,207 crossed out words that 179 00:03:56,207 --> 00:03:57,482 they pointed 180 00:03:57,482 --> 00:03:58,951 out, uh, that we 181 00:03:58,951 --> 00:04:03,087 completely agreed with. Um 182 00:04:03,087 --> 00:04:04,897 , the main addition 183 00:04:04,897 --> 00:04:06,659 starts, uh, on 184 00:04:06,659 --> 00:04:14,038 line 96, where, uh, during 185 00:04:14,038 --> 00:04:15,180 discussions with the 186 00:04:15,180 --> 00:04:16,529 city attorney, uh 187 00:04:16,529 --> 00:04:18,570 , and our 188 00:04:18,605 --> 00:04:19,989 arbitration procedure is much more 189 00:04:19,989 --> 00:04:21,338 efficient than what 190 00:04:21,338 --> 00:04:25,327 was before. Um, as 191 00:04:25,327 --> 00:04:26,675 you can see, what was 192 00:04:26,675 --> 00:04:27,989 crossed out, there was 193 00:04:27,989 --> 00:04:29,130 just, you know, there 194 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:29,891 wasn't a lot of 195 00:04:29,891 --> 00:04:31,274 wording regarding, uh, the 196 00:04:31,274 --> 00:04:32,550 arbitration process. 197 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:33,655 So we agreed to 198 00:04:33,655 --> 00:04:34,962 just spell out everything in 199 00:04:34,962 --> 00:04:36,201 detail: the number of 200 00:04:36,201 --> 00:04:37,407 arbitrators who should 201 00:04:37,407 --> 00:04:38,714 be present, uh, where 202 00:04:38,714 --> 00:04:40,020 it would take place, uh 203 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:40,523 , what the 204 00:04:40,523 --> 00:04:43,035 city would be responsible for, what 205 00:04:43,069 --> 00:04:44,007 the union would be responsible for, and 206 00:04:44,007 --> 00:04:45,045 basically all of it is 207 00:04:45,045 --> 00:04:46,368 clearly spelled out. 208 00:04:46,368 --> 00:04:47,616 Now, and this also 209 00:04:47,616 --> 00:04:49,187 continues in 210 00:04:49,187 --> 00:04:53,101 line 109. What was the 211 00:04:53,101 --> 00:04:54,959 justification for changing the 212 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:56,767 deadline from 5 to 10 and from 10 213 00:04:56,767 --> 00:04:58,689 to 15 days? 214 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:01,577 This is for appeal, 215 00:05:01,577 --> 00:05:01,958 right? 216 00:05:01,958 --> 00:05:02,844 Yes. Um, 217 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:03,779 just give me more 218 00:05:03,779 --> 00:05:04,661 time to write 219 00:05:04,661 --> 00:05:05,216 the appeal. 220 00:05:05,216 --> 00:05:06,122 Yeah, we just, we 221 00:05:06,122 --> 00:05:07,255 just gave them more 222 00:05:07,255 --> 00:05:08,304 time, you know, 223 00:05:08,304 --> 00:05:09,239 weekdays, weekends, stuff like that 224 00:05:09,239 --> 00:05:10,372 . So we just 225 00:05:10,372 --> 00:05:11,556 extended the deadline, and 226 00:05:11,556 --> 00:05:12,802 we both agreed 227 00:05:12,802 --> 00:05:13,706 that it was better to provide 228 00:05:13,706 --> 00:05:14,858 more time, uh, for 229 00:05:14,858 --> 00:05:24,145 both parties. And that was the 230 00:05:24,145 --> 00:05:25,238 main section, 231 00:05:25,238 --> 00:05:26,543 really everything else— 232 00:05:26,543 --> 00:05:27,919 it's just, uh, simple 233 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:29,259 word substitutions or something 234 00:05:29,259 --> 00:05:30,459 like that that just 235 00:05:30,459 --> 00:05:32,549 caught my eye. It was 236 00:05:32,549 --> 00:05:47,450 Article 10. Uh, Article 14 237 00:05:47,450 --> 00:05:48,691 , which deals with 238 00:05:48,691 --> 00:05:50,055 the workweek and 239 00:05:50,055 --> 00:05:51,503 overtime, uh, 240 00:05:51,503 --> 00:05:52,991 just, essentially, uh, 241 00:05:52,991 --> 00:05:54,645 there were just some changes to 242 00:05:54,645 --> 00:05:55,927 the numbers, uh, actually, 243 00:05:55,927 --> 00:05:57,085 to write the number in 244 00:05:57,085 --> 00:05:58,071 words. Um, 245 00:05:58,071 --> 00:05:59,495 write this down. Uh, 246 00:05:59,495 --> 00:06:00,552 word changes, uh, 247 00:06:00,552 --> 00:06:01,761 you know, minimum 48 248 00:06:01,761 --> 00:06:03,272 hours, like in line 21, 249 00:06:03,272 --> 00:06:04,669 just to put 250 00:06:04,669 --> 00:06:07,517 it in words. Uh, 28. So there 251 00:06:07,517 --> 00:06:08,884 really wasn't 252 00:06:08,884 --> 00:06:11,252 any difference there. um, 253 00:06:11,252 --> 00:06:12,601 scrolling down the 254 00:06:12,601 --> 00:06:15,758 text, and the same thing as 255 00:06:15,758 --> 00:06:17,022 we get to 256 00:06:17,022 --> 00:06:18,152 the end of this article, 257 00:06:18,152 --> 00:06:19,316 just writing the number in 258 00:06:19,316 --> 00:06:20,527 words. So, there 259 00:06:20,527 --> 00:06:21,538 really 260 00:06:21,538 --> 00:06:22,671 weren't any significant 261 00:06:22,671 --> 00:06:26,429 changes to this article. 262 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:28,073 It looks like they shortened, uh, 263 00:06:28,073 --> 00:06:30,967 chapter six. 264 00:06:30,967 --> 00:06:32,460 Instead of eight hours of 265 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:33,991 compensatory time, 266 00:06:33,991 --> 00:06:35,064 they get 267 00:06:35,064 --> 00:06:36,404 four, and instead of 28 268 00:06:36,404 --> 00:06:37,629 days for each, it's 269 00:06:37,629 --> 00:06:40,475 now 14, right? 270 00:06:40,475 --> 00:06:41,575 What is my number? 271 00:06:41,575 --> 00:06:50,947 Uh, that's 142. Yeah, we 272 00:06:50,947 --> 00:06:52,960 went from 8 to 4, and 273 00:06:52,960 --> 00:07:13,650 then from 28 to 14. 274 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:14,446 Vacation and 275 00:07:14,446 --> 00:07:18,761 sick leave. Article 16. 276 00:07:18,761 --> 00:07:20,704 Uh, the same, uh, as in 277 00:07:20,704 --> 00:07:24,432 lines 13, 32, 34, just the 278 00:07:24,485 --> 00:07:29,874 wording was actually written out. Uh, 279 00:07:29,874 --> 00:07:31,063 one specific 280 00:07:31,063 --> 00:07:32,423 addition, uh, in 281 00:07:32,423 --> 00:07:33,867 lines 35 through 36—it's 282 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:35,014 just during the 283 00:07:35,014 --> 00:07:36,544 second pay 284 00:07:36,544 --> 00:07:40,859 period in October. Uh, 285 00:07:40,859 --> 00:07:42,148 previously, it did 286 00:07:42,148 --> 00:07:43,106 n't seem to specify a 287 00:07:43,106 --> 00:07:44,263 specific time of 288 00:07:44,263 --> 00:07:45,419 year, but we wanted to 289 00:07:45,419 --> 00:07:46,609 make sure it was 290 00:07:46,609 --> 00:07:47,832 done at the beginning of the 291 00:07:47,832 --> 00:07:49,734 fiscal year. So 292 00:07:49,734 --> 00:07:50,735 , since October 293 00:07:50,735 --> 00:07:51,820 is our fiscal year 294 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:52,821 , we extended this to the 295 00:07:52,821 --> 00:07:53,821 second pay 296 00:07:53,821 --> 00:07:54,782 period. Uh, so 297 00:07:54,782 --> 00:07:55,424 they don't 298 00:07:55,424 --> 00:07:56,188 expect it in the 299 00:07:56,188 --> 00:07:56,879 very first 300 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:57,766 payment period of the 301 00:07:57,766 --> 00:07:58,804 fiscal year. That 302 00:07:58,804 --> 00:07:59,841 gives us that month 303 00:07:59,841 --> 00:08:00,552 to actually 304 00:08:00,552 --> 00:08:01,678 pay off any, 305 00:08:01,678 --> 00:08:02,775 you know, time or anything 306 00:08:02,775 --> 00:08:03,871 like that that we have to 307 00:08:03,871 --> 00:08:05,173 do. So it was 308 00:08:05,173 --> 00:08:10,282 just an addition. 309 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:11,367 Uh, line 78—it's 310 00:08:11,367 --> 00:08:12,374 just added 311 00:08:12,374 --> 00:08:13,730 wording about, 312 00:08:13,730 --> 00:08:14,893 you know, a death in the 313 00:08:14,893 --> 00:08:17,557 family. Uh, lines 64-65 314 00:08:17,557 --> 00:08:19,771 — they just wrote 315 00:08:19,771 --> 00:08:26,089 the numbers in words. Uh, and 316 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:27,280 lines 79 through 81 are 317 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,731 simply a strikethrough with 318 00:08:28,731 --> 00:08:29,513 the addition of 319 00:08:29,513 --> 00:08:30,704 wording about 320 00:08:30,704 --> 00:08:31,746 organizing and 321 00:08:31,746 --> 00:08:32,676 attending a 322 00:08:32,676 --> 00:08:33,570 funeral for 323 00:08:33,570 --> 00:08:39,026 family events. Uh-huh. 324 00:08:39,026 --> 00:08:40,097 We were discussing, 325 00:08:40,097 --> 00:08:41,030 you know, just 326 00:08:41,030 --> 00:08:42,343 situations where someone 327 00:08:42,343 --> 00:08:43,346 dies and you can't 328 00:08:43,346 --> 00:08:45,661 , you know, we can't 329 00:08:45,696 --> 00:08:48,430 attend the event immediately. 330 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:49,443 Usually, a funeral 331 00:08:49,443 --> 00:08:50,583 is not organized 332 00:08:50,583 --> 00:08:51,904 in a few days. Sometimes 333 00:08:51,904 --> 00:08:52,971 it will be out of 334 00:08:52,971 --> 00:08:54,339 state or city. So 335 00:08:54,339 --> 00:08:55,666 we actually agreed on 336 00:08:55,666 --> 00:08:57,028 their, uh, allowed 337 00:08:57,028 --> 00:08:57,879 time, but they don't 338 00:08:57,879 --> 00:08:59,002 have to take 339 00:08:59,002 --> 00:09:00,295 it immediately, on the day, 340 00:09:00,295 --> 00:09:01,112 you know, or the 341 00:09:01,112 --> 00:09:02,440 day after 342 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,628 someone dies. We 343 00:09:03,628 --> 00:09:04,779 can, if, you know, 344 00:09:04,779 --> 00:09:05,537 agreements 345 00:09:05,537 --> 00:09:06,749 are reached, for example, 346 00:09:06,749 --> 00:09:07,930 next week 347 00:09:07,930 --> 00:09:09,142 or something, that's when it 348 00:09:09,142 --> 00:09:14,574 will start. And 349 00:09:14,574 --> 00:09:17,023 lines 93 through 99 were 350 00:09:17,023 --> 00:09:22,296 added. Uh-huh. Just 351 00:09:22,296 --> 00:09:23,229 clarifying, uh, 352 00:09:23,229 --> 00:09:24,576 maybe paid 353 00:09:24,576 --> 00:09:25,820 compensatory time 354 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:26,339 instead of 355 00:09:26,339 --> 00:09:28,526 overtime. 356 00:09:28,526 --> 00:09:29,815 It used to be very 357 00:09:29,815 --> 00:09:32,383 blurry. So the union and I 358 00:09:32,415 --> 00:09:33,715 agreed to write down 359 00:09:33,715 --> 00:09:34,333 specific 360 00:09:34,333 --> 00:09:35,373 wording for 361 00:09:35,373 --> 00:09:36,348 this process, and 362 00:09:36,348 --> 00:09:37,615 now that it's there, you 363 00:09:37,615 --> 00:09:42,283 know, it's here. 364 00:09:42,283 --> 00:09:43,849 Does this, uh, repeat 365 00:09:43,849 --> 00:09:44,653 what, uh, non- 366 00:09:44,653 --> 00:09:45,657 union 367 00:09:45,657 --> 00:09:46,942 employees have 368 00:09:46,942 --> 00:09:48,509 regarding, uh, 369 00:09:48,509 --> 00:09:53,305 bereavement leave? Is 370 00:09:53,305 --> 00:09:54,004 it significantly 371 00:09:54,004 --> 00:09:56,107 different? 372 00:09:56,107 --> 00:09:57,229 Um, let me 373 00:09:57,229 --> 00:09:58,186 take a look at these 374 00:09:58,186 --> 00:10:00,513 wordings. 375 00:10:00,513 --> 00:10:01,505 Most of these 376 00:10:01,505 --> 00:10:02,465 formulations, um, 377 00:10:02,465 --> 00:10:03,585 you know, refer to 378 00:10:03,585 --> 00:10:04,973 family members. It's all pretty much the same thing 379 00:10:04,973 --> 00:10:06,424 , 380 00:10:06,424 --> 00:10:07,707 yes, one day for 381 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:10,903 everyone. I'm just 382 00:10:10,903 --> 00:10:12,190 wondering if the staff 383 00:10:12,190 --> 00:10:13,405 had it too or if it 384 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:17,992 was just for the PBA. 385 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:19,002 Um, I believe the 386 00:10:19,002 --> 00:10:19,869 staff has 387 00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:20,988 at least three non- 388 00:10:20,988 --> 00:10:27,090 contractual days. So 389 00:10:27,090 --> 00:10:28,164 but, of course, if they 390 00:10:28,164 --> 00:10:29,358 need to use the 391 00:10:29,358 --> 00:10:30,462 time, they have time off, 392 00:10:30,462 --> 00:10:31,059 they have 393 00:10:31,059 --> 00:10:32,163 compensatory time, 394 00:10:32,163 --> 00:10:33,327 you know, personal time 395 00:10:33,327 --> 00:10:34,561 , if they need it. 396 00:10:34,561 --> 00:10:35,598 So, the union 397 00:10:35,598 --> 00:10:36,903 only asked to, you know, 398 00:10:36,903 --> 00:10:37,940 keep the same 399 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:54,390 editorial as before. 400 00:10:54,390 --> 00:10:55,252 Article 19, which is 401 00:10:55,252 --> 00:10:56,474 included, um, in this 402 00:10:56,474 --> 00:10:57,839 document because I 403 00:10:57,839 --> 00:10:59,241 didn't highlight it separately, is 404 00:10:59,241 --> 00:11:00,247 essentially just a 405 00:11:00,247 --> 00:11:01,361 mimic of what we 406 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:02,762 had to go back to 407 00:11:02,762 --> 00:11:04,200 , um, the city manager had 408 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,356 previously added Emancipation Day 409 00:11:06,392 --> 00:11:07,542 , which 410 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:11,946 wasn't in the manual. Um, 411 00:11:11,946 --> 00:11:13,233 so we agreed on 412 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:14,424 this when Liberation Day happened 413 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:15,454 this 414 00:11:15,454 --> 00:11:16,709 year, but since we 415 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:17,900 were negotiating 416 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:18,865 this in the middle of the year, 417 00:11:18,865 --> 00:11:19,959 the union wanted to 418 00:11:19,959 --> 00:11:21,215 bring the article back to 419 00:11:21,215 --> 00:11:22,309 essentially bring the 420 00:11:22,309 --> 00:11:23,178 holidays into 421 00:11:23,178 --> 00:11:24,208 line with the 422 00:11:24,208 --> 00:11:27,330 manual. So, um, I'm 423 00:11:27,330 --> 00:11:28,567 trying to work 424 00:11:28,567 --> 00:11:29,837 with the city attorney and, 425 00:11:29,837 --> 00:11:30,977 um, personnel to 426 00:11:30,977 --> 00:11:32,084 put together a new 427 00:11:32,084 --> 00:11:33,223 personnel handbook 428 00:11:33,223 --> 00:11:34,395 that would move us 429 00:11:34,395 --> 00:11:35,307 to the federal 430 00:11:35,307 --> 00:11:37,042 calendar. It's just 431 00:11:37,042 --> 00:11:38,934 because, you know, I 432 00:11:38,968 --> 00:11:40,218 agreed to some extent with my 433 00:11:40,218 --> 00:11:41,570 predecessors that, um, 434 00:11:41,570 --> 00:11:42,922 they all noticed that, 435 00:11:42,922 --> 00:11:44,240 you know, Newport County 436 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,490 -Mitchie, a lot of 437 00:11:45,490 --> 00:11:46,673 our other institutions—they all 438 00:11:46,673 --> 00:11:47,518 follow the 439 00:11:47,518 --> 00:11:48,362 federal 440 00:11:48,362 --> 00:11:49,572 calendar. We have 441 00:11:49,572 --> 00:11:50,866 some holidays that aren't, 442 00:11:50,866 --> 00:11:52,088 um, you know, like the day 443 00:11:52,088 --> 00:11:53,238 after Thanksgiving, 444 00:11:53,238 --> 00:11:54,705 technically not a holiday. 445 00:11:54,705 --> 00:11:55,732 It's just, you know, you 446 00:11:55,732 --> 00:11:56,652 just do it on a 40- 447 00:11:56,652 --> 00:11:57,707 hour weekend, 448 00:11:57,707 --> 00:11:58,573 and it's right after 449 00:11:58,573 --> 00:11:59,861 that. So 450 00:11:59,861 --> 00:12:01,053 it's usually there. Um, here 451 00:12:01,053 --> 00:12:02,259 Good Friday is a 452 00:12:02,259 --> 00:12:03,397 holiday that has always 453 00:12:03,397 --> 00:12:04,435 been in the personnel 454 00:12:04,435 --> 00:12:05,774 handbook, but it is not a 455 00:12:05,774 --> 00:12:07,080 federal holiday. 456 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,860 So, moving 457 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:08,856 forward, I'm trying to, 458 00:12:08,856 --> 00:12:09,798 you know, work out a 459 00:12:09,798 --> 00:12:10,848 federal calendar 460 00:12:10,848 --> 00:12:11,898 , but I'll have to 461 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:12,651 present that to 462 00:12:12,651 --> 00:12:13,620 the union when it's 463 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:14,514 ready. But 464 00:12:14,514 --> 00:12:15,350 now we're just 465 00:12:15,350 --> 00:12:16,445 back to what we 466 00:12:16,445 --> 00:12:17,540 have in the current 467 00:12:17,540 --> 00:12:33,350 personnel handbook. 468 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:34,567 Article 20 essentially 469 00:12:34,567 --> 00:12:35,860 covers 470 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:37,001 wages for both, um, 471 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:38,333 officers and 472 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:42,752 dispatchers. So, for the 473 00:12:42,752 --> 00:12:44,154 first year, um, for the 474 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:45,031 first year of 475 00:12:45,031 --> 00:12:46,171 the raise, we 476 00:12:46,171 --> 00:12:47,398 agreed on a 477 00:12:47,398 --> 00:12:49,019 3.7% increase for 478 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:50,729 officers and a 3% increase for, um 479 00:12:50,729 --> 00:12:54,977 , dispatchers. Um, this is 480 00:12:54,977 --> 00:12:56,178 all within your 481 00:12:56,178 --> 00:12:57,237 budget that you 482 00:12:57,237 --> 00:13:00,110 just approved. Um, 483 00:13:00,110 --> 00:13:01,286 this was discussed 484 00:13:01,286 --> 00:13:02,530 during the negotiations 485 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:03,236 between me and the 486 00:13:03,236 --> 00:13:04,648 union. Um, we, I 487 00:13:04,648 --> 00:13:05,715 mean, the city 488 00:13:05,715 --> 00:13:06,889 attorney and the 489 00:13:06,889 --> 00:13:08,276 police chief, you know, we both 490 00:13:08,276 --> 00:13:09,663 discussed it back and forth 491 00:13:09,663 --> 00:13:11,054 . Um, and we got 492 00:13:11,054 --> 00:13:12,060 to this, um, we 493 00:13:12,060 --> 00:13:12,959 got to these 494 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:16,932 negotiations. Ahem. I 495 00:13:16,932 --> 00:13:18,274 think this is another step 496 00:13:18,274 --> 00:13:19,582 in what we're doing with the 497 00:13:19,582 --> 00:13:20,421 police 498 00:13:20,421 --> 00:13:21,916 department. So, 499 00:13:21,916 --> 00:13:23,256 this is where we 500 00:13:23,256 --> 00:13:25,985 are now. 501 00:13:25,985 --> 00:13:29,195 is that... is that 3%-- is 502 00:13:29,195 --> 00:13:30,691 that a straight 503 00:13:30,691 --> 00:13:32,315 3% hourly increase, because I 504 00:13:32,315 --> 00:13:33,341 just did a quick 505 00:13:33,341 --> 00:13:34,837 calculation, taking 506 00:13:34,837 --> 00:13:36,291 23.22, which was the first 507 00:13:36,291 --> 00:13:37,915 increment of the hourly 508 00:13:37,915 --> 00:13:39,540 rate on October 1, 509 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:42,768 2025. With a 510 00:13:42,768 --> 00:13:45,210 3% increase, it should be 511 00:13:45,210 --> 00:13:54,114 23.9166 or 23.92, but here it is 24.07. 512 00:13:54,114 --> 00:13:55,340 Maybe this refers to the 513 00:13:55,340 --> 00:13:56,190 annual amount? 514 00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:58,582 You start from the number 515 00:13:58,582 --> 00:13:59,081 23.22. 516 00:13:59,081 --> 00:14:00,294 Yes. Let me take a 517 00:14:00,294 --> 00:14:01,384 quick look at the 518 00:14:01,384 --> 00:14:10,412 annual amount. 519 00:14:10,412 --> 00:14:12,346 Yes, it's not 3%, it's more 520 00:14:12,346 --> 00:14:12,496 . It 521 00:14:12,496 --> 00:14:14,612 should be 3.7%. 522 00:14:14,612 --> 00:14:16,404 Oh, 3.7%. 523 00:14:16,404 --> 00:14:18,119 Yes, 3.7% for officers 524 00:14:18,119 --> 00:14:19,411 for the first year. 525 00:14:19,411 --> 00:14:20,687 Good. So, for the 526 00:14:20,687 --> 00:14:22,280 first stage, for the 527 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,832 first year, for 528 00:14:23,832 --> 00:14:25,341 2026, it will be 3.7%, and for the 529 00:14:25,341 --> 00:14:26,976 next two years of 530 00:14:26,976 --> 00:14:29,213 this contract—3%. 531 00:14:29,213 --> 00:14:31,013 So, these 3.7% bring the 532 00:14:31,013 --> 00:14:32,664 first degree to a 533 00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,515 salary level of 534 00:14:34,515 --> 00:14:37,192 $50,000. Um, 535 00:14:37,192 --> 00:14:38,696 the union originally 536 00:14:38,696 --> 00:14:39,883 wanted a lot 537 00:14:39,883 --> 00:14:41,347 more, but this is what 538 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:42,534 we came to as a 539 00:14:42,534 --> 00:14:43,365 result of 540 00:14:43,365 --> 00:14:44,632 negotiations, and for the 541 00:14:44,632 --> 00:14:46,215 next two years, the 27th 542 00:14:46,215 --> 00:14:49,480 and the 28th, it's just 3%. 543 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,369 Now, if the 544 00:14:50,369 --> 00:14:51,344 November 545 00:14:51,344 --> 00:14:52,869 vote is 546 00:14:52,869 --> 00:14:54,310 successful, then 2027 and 2028 547 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:55,242 will be 548 00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:56,852 put on hold until we can come to an 549 00:14:56,852 --> 00:14:58,335 agreement on 550 00:14:58,335 --> 00:15:18,120 those two years. 551 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,566 Of course, Article 27 552 00:15:19,566 --> 00:15:21,012 only concerns 553 00:15:21,012 --> 00:15:22,266 the duration and 554 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:24,146 termination of this 555 00:15:24,146 --> 00:15:25,255 particular 556 00:15:25,255 --> 00:15:27,039 contract, changing 557 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,802 it from 2026 to 2029. Um 558 00:15:30,802 --> 00:15:32,383 , but lines 17-22 559 00:15:32,383 --> 00:15:42,423 basically describe... 560 00:15:42,423 --> 00:15:43,529 We both 561 00:15:43,529 --> 00:15:44,099 agreed on 562 00:15:44,099 --> 00:15:45,374 the wording that 563 00:15:45,374 --> 00:15:46,715 in the event that we 564 00:15:46,715 --> 00:15:50,205 need to... 565 00:15:50,205 --> 00:15:51,504 revise the agreement 566 00:15:51,504 --> 00:15:53,033 or in the event that 567 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:54,447 any disputes arise 568 00:15:54,447 --> 00:15:55,900 or anything like that, 569 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:57,276 we both agreed on that 570 00:15:57,276 --> 00:15:58,346 wording in 571 00:15:58,346 --> 00:16:11,615 lines 19-22. 572 00:16:11,615 --> 00:16:12,958 Where exactly is it written down that what 573 00:16:12,958 --> 00:16:13,889 will happen in 574 00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:16,276 November? 575 00:16:16,276 --> 00:16:17,195 Go back, 576 00:16:17,195 --> 00:16:18,037 I'm sorry, 577 00:16:18,037 --> 00:16:19,110 go back to 578 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:21,213 article 20. 579 00:16:21,213 --> 00:16:23,527 And then on the last 580 00:16:23,527 --> 00:16:31,227 page, lines 122-129. 581 00:16:31,227 --> 00:16:52,259 Good. So, as I 582 00:16:52,259 --> 00:16:53,480 said, Nancy Meyer, 583 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,701 Rob Ashenfelder, myself, and the 584 00:16:54,701 --> 00:16:55,958 police chief— 585 00:16:55,958 --> 00:16:57,214 we all agree that these are 586 00:16:57,214 --> 00:16:59,203 acceptable terms for 587 00:16:59,238 --> 00:17:01,795 moving forward. As I 588 00:17:01,795 --> 00:17:02,798 said, this is within 589 00:17:02,798 --> 00:17:03,769 our budget 590 00:17:03,769 --> 00:17:05,223 parameters. Um, 591 00:17:05,223 --> 00:17:06,671 you know, 592 00:17:06,671 --> 00:17:09,853 it was mostly changes. Um, the 593 00:17:09,886 --> 00:17:11,736 raise negotiations were all within the 594 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:13,940 planned range. So, 595 00:17:13,940 --> 00:17:14,947 if you don't have 596 00:17:14,947 --> 00:17:16,087 any specific 597 00:17:16,087 --> 00:17:17,396 questions, I've included the entire 598 00:17:17,396 --> 00:17:18,604 agreement as an attachment 599 00:17:18,604 --> 00:17:19,510 in case you wanted to 600 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:20,852 discuss anything else, 601 00:17:20,852 --> 00:17:21,791 but none of those 602 00:17:21,791 --> 00:17:24,539 articles will change. 603 00:17:24,539 --> 00:17:25,983 The ones I read to 604 00:17:25,983 --> 00:17:27,427 you tonight are the 605 00:17:27,427 --> 00:17:28,655 only ones that will 606 00:17:28,655 --> 00:17:42,660 change. Have a question? 607 00:17:42,660 --> 00:17:49,535 Tom? That was good. 608 00:17:49,535 --> 00:17:50,736 Just wanted to be 609 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:56,456 aware. 610 00:17:56,456 --> 00:17:57,452 Good. So, do 611 00:17:57,452 --> 00:17:58,190 we need 612 00:17:58,190 --> 00:17:59,050 a vote of 613 00:17:59,050 --> 00:17:59,919 approval? 614 00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:01,325 This is a working meeting. This 615 00:18:01,325 --> 00:18:03,101 issue will return to the 616 00:18:03,948 --> 00:18:04,767 agenda for formal approval in 617 00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:05,931 the near future. Yes 618 00:18:05,931 --> 00:18:06,595 , they will have a 619 00:18:06,595 --> 00:18:07,543 vote on 620 00:18:07,543 --> 00:18:08,270 ratification by 621 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:09,850 officials. 622 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:11,133 If it passes, we 623 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:12,521 will prepare a final 624 00:18:12,521 --> 00:18:13,805 agreement and present 625 00:18:13,805 --> 00:18:15,123 it to the council at the 626 00:18:15,123 --> 00:18:16,837 September meeting. I hope 627 00:18:16,837 --> 00:18:17,536 we can 628 00:18:17,536 --> 00:18:18,807 wrap this up by the end of 629 00:18:18,807 --> 00:18:19,856 this month, and it 630 00:18:19,856 --> 00:18:20,619 will be a closed 631 00:18:20,619 --> 00:18:21,323 session. 632 00:18:21,323 --> 00:18:21,799 No. 633 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:23,896 So there is no 634 00:18:23,896 --> 00:18:25,221 closed session, 635 00:18:25,221 --> 00:18:26,172 since the agreements 636 00:18:26,172 --> 00:18:27,531 have been signed, even if they are 637 00:18:27,531 --> 00:18:28,379 preliminary. 638 00:18:28,379 --> 00:18:29,497 Good. So, 639 00:18:29,497 --> 00:18:30,557 this never happens to us 640 00:18:30,557 --> 00:18:31,949 . No. Of course. I 641 00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:32,922 spoke to both 642 00:18:32,922 --> 00:18:33,954 attorneys about this 643 00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:35,103 , and we could, you 644 00:18:35,103 --> 00:18:36,135 know, we probably should have 645 00:18:36,135 --> 00:18:37,226 held a 646 00:18:37,226 --> 00:18:41,217 closed session. 647 00:18:41,217 --> 00:18:42,368 But the fact that we 648 00:18:42,368 --> 00:18:43,385 have a preliminary 649 00:18:43,385 --> 00:18:44,502 agreement means that 650 00:18:44,502 --> 00:18:45,519 if you disagree with something 651 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:46,806 now, I 652 00:18:46,806 --> 00:18:48,059 can still go back to 653 00:18:48,059 --> 00:18:49,279 negotiations, but we have 654 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:50,126 almost everything 655 00:18:50,126 --> 00:18:54,657 agreed. But they have 656 00:18:54,657 --> 00:18:55,333 n't held a 657 00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:56,416 vote on 658 00:18:56,416 --> 00:18:57,667 ratification or anything yet 659 00:18:57,667 --> 00:18:58,902 . So if we 660 00:18:58,902 --> 00:19:00,043 needed to 661 00:19:00,043 --> 00:19:01,248 discuss something, I could 662 00:19:01,248 --> 00:19:01,933 notify 663 00:19:01,933 --> 00:19:03,204 the union and do 664 00:19:03,204 --> 00:19:05,597 it. But it was the 665 00:19:05,597 --> 00:19:06,830 lawyer's suggestion 666 00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:07,829 to hold it as a 667 00:19:07,829 --> 00:19:08,929 working meeting or 668 00:19:08,929 --> 00:19:10,549 closed session. 669 00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:11,707 I think last time 670 00:19:11,707 --> 00:19:12,896 we held a closed 671 00:19:12,896 --> 00:19:14,116 meeting because the issue 672 00:19:14,116 --> 00:19:15,091 was controversial and not 673 00:19:15,091 --> 00:19:15,832 agreed upon. 674 00:19:15,832 --> 00:19:16,933 Right. 675 00:19:16,933 --> 00:19:18,315 I think there 676 00:19:18,315 --> 00:19:19,414 was more 677 00:19:19,414 --> 00:19:21,625 debate last time. Yes. We could 678 00:19:21,625 --> 00:19:22,856 do the same this 679 00:19:22,856 --> 00:19:24,989 time. But again 680 00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:26,007 , since many of 681 00:19:26,007 --> 00:19:27,026 the changes concerned 682 00:19:27,026 --> 00:19:28,045 wording, not 683 00:19:28,045 --> 00:19:32,086 substance. I thought this was the 684 00:19:32,086 --> 00:19:33,170 best way to 685 00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:36,168 move forward. 686 00:19:36,168 --> 00:19:37,674 Good. I mean, 687 00:19:37,674 --> 00:19:38,892 just my thoughts for the 688 00:19:38,892 --> 00:19:40,294 future. Um, I think 689 00:19:40,294 --> 00:19:41,471 that before—I mean, 690 00:19:41,471 --> 00:19:42,786 of course, 691 00:19:42,786 --> 00:19:44,171 if an agreement is reached, 692 00:19:44,171 --> 00:19:45,175 that's great, but I 693 00:19:45,175 --> 00:19:46,525 think that before we 694 00:19:46,525 --> 00:19:47,598 , the city side, 695 00:19:47,598 --> 00:19:48,776 agree, it should 696 00:19:48,776 --> 00:19:50,057 go back to the council 697 00:19:50,057 --> 00:19:51,441 in closed session 698 00:19:51,441 --> 00:19:52,238 so we can 699 00:19:52,238 --> 00:19:53,242 discuss it and 700 00:19:53,242 --> 00:19:54,315 make sure, because right 701 00:19:54,315 --> 00:19:55,423 now we... if we 702 00:19:55,423 --> 00:19:56,773 want to open up 703 00:19:56,773 --> 00:19:58,712 or discuss something, it's in 704 00:19:58,746 --> 00:19:59,819 public, and we can't have 705 00:19:59,819 --> 00:20:00,962 those 706 00:20:00,962 --> 00:20:01,920 discussions. So I 707 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,414 think in 708 00:20:02,414 --> 00:20:03,267 the future, if we 709 00:20:03,267 --> 00:20:03,828 do 710 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:04,681 contracts, we should 711 00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:05,444 have closed 712 00:20:05,444 --> 00:20:06,253 meetings where before the 713 00:20:06,253 --> 00:20:07,083 city... I mean, 714 00:20:07,083 --> 00:20:07,510 you could 715 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:08,296 work together 716 00:20:08,296 --> 00:20:09,194 to prepare something, 717 00:20:09,194 --> 00:20:09,957 but I think it 718 00:20:09,957 --> 00:20:10,743 should go back to the 719 00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:11,483 council so we can have 720 00:20:11,483 --> 00:20:12,359 our say 721 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,122 before it's 722 00:20:13,122 --> 00:20:13,998 finally agreed to, those are 723 00:20:13,998 --> 00:20:14,682 my thoughts. 724 00:20:14,682 --> 00:20:15,591 And we could 725 00:20:15,591 --> 00:20:16,932 do it. It's just, um, 726 00:20:16,932 --> 00:20:18,373 as I've said in my 727 00:20:18,373 --> 00:20:19,778 discussions with Nancy 728 00:20:19,778 --> 00:20:22,989 and Rob...in their 729 00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:25,634 opinion, since I'm essentially the 730 00:20:25,668 --> 00:20:26,799 negotiating representative, 731 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:27,634 and I signed the 732 00:20:27,634 --> 00:20:29,013 preliminary agreements that 733 00:20:29,013 --> 00:20:30,469 I submitted there. Um, like I 734 00:20:30,469 --> 00:20:31,956 said, they're still 735 00:20:31,956 --> 00:20:33,231 preliminary. So 736 00:20:33,231 --> 00:20:34,183 if there's anything we 737 00:20:34,183 --> 00:20:35,343 should bring back for 738 00:20:35,343 --> 00:20:36,206 discussion, we 739 00:20:36,206 --> 00:20:36,693 can. 740 00:20:36,693 --> 00:20:38,129 Um, but in their opinion, 741 00:20:38,129 --> 00:20:39,485 it was just... 742 00:20:39,485 --> 00:20:40,588 not to hold a closed 743 00:20:40,588 --> 00:20:41,607 session, but to just 744 00:20:41,607 --> 00:20:42,484 hold it as a 745 00:20:42,484 --> 00:20:43,437 working session. So that's why 746 00:20:43,437 --> 00:20:44,183 we're here tonight 747 00:20:44,183 --> 00:20:45,078 . 748 00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:46,179 And it works both 749 00:20:46,179 --> 00:20:47,168 ways. As a council, we 750 00:20:47,168 --> 00:20:48,163 say we want 751 00:20:48,163 --> 00:20:49,394 more than 3%, right? Or 752 00:20:49,394 --> 00:20:50,282 we may want to... 753 00:20:50,282 --> 00:20:51,097 So I think it's 754 00:20:51,097 --> 00:20:51,793 good practice 755 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:52,584 because we have the 756 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:53,088 appropriate 757 00:20:53,088 --> 00:20:53,688 authority 758 00:20:53,688 --> 00:20:54,647 to hold these sessions, 759 00:20:54,647 --> 00:20:55,199 and we should 760 00:20:55,199 --> 00:20:56,014 take advantage of this 761 00:20:56,014 --> 00:20:56,906 discussion because 762 00:20:56,906 --> 00:20:57,590 it's part of the 763 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:58,992 discussion, I think. 764 00:20:58,992 --> 00:21:00,153 Yes. Longevity bonus 765 00:21:00,153 --> 00:21:01,036 , how long has it 766 00:21:01,036 --> 00:21:01,716 existed in this 767 00:21:01,716 --> 00:21:02,447 form? And was 768 00:21:02,447 --> 00:21:03,619 this discussed? 769 00:21:03,619 --> 00:21:04,933 This was not discussed. 770 00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:05,576 This was already in 771 00:21:05,576 --> 00:21:06,706 the contracts before. Um 772 00:21:06,706 --> 00:21:07,709 , and they didn't ask for 773 00:21:07,709 --> 00:21:08,458 any changes. 774 00:21:08,458 --> 00:21:09,313 They didn't...they didn't 775 00:21:09,313 --> 00:21:10,411 want any changes. 776 00:21:10,411 --> 00:21:11,386 Yes. 777 00:21:11,386 --> 00:21:12,699 And actually, we just 778 00:21:12,699 --> 00:21:13,742 performed it for 779 00:21:13,742 --> 00:21:14,893 Sergeant S. 780 00:21:14,893 --> 00:21:16,834 Sergeant Cox. He has been with 781 00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:18,428 us for 15 years. 782 00:21:18,428 --> 00:21:23,028 So, are there any more questions? 783 00:21:23,028 --> 00:21:24,623 Good. If not, then I'll move on 784 00:21:24,623 --> 00:21:25,614 . Are there any 785 00:21:25,614 --> 00:21:26,313 comments from the 786 00:21:26,313 --> 00:21:27,271 public? I don't 787 00:21:27,271 --> 00:21:28,303 see it, then I'll move on to 788 00:21:28,303 --> 00:21:29,230 the comments from the mayor and 789 00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:30,223 city council. Uh, 790 00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:31,621 let's start with Councilman 791 00:21:31,621 --> 00:21:32,925 Burke. That is, with Councilwoman 792 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:34,080 Burke. 793 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,406 Let's go back to the 794 00:21:35,406 --> 00:21:36,792 council member. I got it all 795 00:21:36,792 --> 00:21:38,110 mixed up again. I will do 796 00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:39,176 everything right. I'll 797 00:21:39,176 --> 00:21:40,958 talk to the 798 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:41,886 council member. 799 00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:42,963 Now, I wish 800 00:21:42,963 --> 00:21:44,012 we could pay them 801 00:21:44,012 --> 00:21:44,491 more. 802 00:21:44,491 --> 00:21:45,394 Yes, I hope 803 00:21:45,394 --> 00:21:46,489 we can someday. 804 00:21:46,489 --> 00:21:47,789 Me too. I wish 805 00:21:47,789 --> 00:21:48,709 we could pay them 806 00:21:48,709 --> 00:21:49,450 more, but, uh, 807 00:21:49,450 --> 00:21:50,215 nothing more. 808 00:21:50,215 --> 00:21:51,654 Good. Vice Mayor, 809 00:21:51,654 --> 00:21:52,651 I just want to say 810 00:21:52,651 --> 00:21:53,394 that they are doing a great 811 00:21:53,394 --> 00:21:54,238 job in their 812 00:21:54,238 --> 00:21:55,100 city. The police are 813 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,284 constantly everywhere, and you 814 00:21:56,284 --> 00:21:57,288 see them. They are 815 00:21:57,288 --> 00:21:58,602 present. Cars on 816 00:21:58,602 --> 00:21:59,558 the streets, just 817 00:21:59,558 --> 00:22:00,961 great work. 818 00:22:00,961 --> 00:22:04,576 Okay, Card. 819 00:22:04,576 --> 00:22:06,778 No, it's just that the seniority bonus 820 00:22:06,812 --> 00:22:08,146 seems too small, but 821 00:22:08,146 --> 00:22:09,014 they didn't ask for it 822 00:22:09,014 --> 00:22:11,865 and no, they're 823 00:22:11,865 --> 00:22:12,827 doing a great 824 00:22:12,827 --> 00:22:13,911 job. They 825 00:22:13,911 --> 00:22:14,920 deserve the 826 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,894 best too. They 827 00:22:15,894 --> 00:22:16,970 do a great 828 00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:19,697 job. What is, is what is. 829 00:22:19,697 --> 00:22:23,007 Gladly. Yes, and that's an apt 830 00:22:23,007 --> 00:22:24,361 observation, since 831 00:22:24,361 --> 00:22:25,540 we've worked it out. It would be 832 00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:26,195 good 833 00:22:26,195 --> 00:22:27,336 to meet as a council in 834 00:22:27,336 --> 00:22:28,448 closed session 835 00:22:28,448 --> 00:22:29,218 to be able to 836 00:22:29,218 --> 00:22:30,372 discuss things. So 837 00:22:30,372 --> 00:22:31,252 I definitely think that 838 00:22:31,252 --> 00:22:32,303 depending on what 839 00:22:32,303 --> 00:22:32,928 happens in 840 00:22:32,928 --> 00:22:33,921 November, let's 841 00:22:33,921 --> 00:22:35,000 make sure that we 842 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,937 all have a say on 843 00:22:35,937 --> 00:22:37,045 this so that we 844 00:22:37,045 --> 00:22:37,523 can 845 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:38,554 I think, uh, then in 846 00:22:38,554 --> 00:22:39,676 November we'll 847 00:22:39,676 --> 00:22:40,890 keep an eye on it, and if 848 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:41,739 we have to 849 00:22:41,739 --> 00:22:42,831 reopen the contract 850 00:22:42,831 --> 00:22:43,741 , we can as well 851 00:22:43,741 --> 00:22:44,743 , and the thing is, 852 00:22:44,743 --> 00:22:45,865 the review doesn't 853 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:46,532 necessarily 854 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:47,442 just have to be about 855 00:22:47,442 --> 00:22:48,555 salaries. We can 856 00:22:48,555 --> 00:22:49,267 review 857 00:22:49,267 --> 00:22:50,389 almost anything. 858 00:22:50,389 --> 00:22:51,773 So I'll do this, and this will 859 00:22:51,773 --> 00:22:52,554 become our 860 00:22:52,554 --> 00:22:53,832 practice, I'll just 861 00:22:53,832 --> 00:22:54,968 call a closed 862 00:22:54,968 --> 00:22:56,205 session right away. 863 00:22:56,205 --> 00:22:57,426 That way, since 864 00:22:57,426 --> 00:22:58,586 the contract is in front of us, 865 00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,777 we can discuss 866 00:22:59,777 --> 00:23:00,785 anything we 867 00:23:00,785 --> 00:23:02,076 want to move forward on. 868 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:02,765 So, and then 869 00:23:02,765 --> 00:23:03,914 move on from this 870 00:23:03,914 --> 00:23:04,858 point. So before 871 00:23:04,858 --> 00:23:05,803 I sit down with them 872 00:23:05,803 --> 00:23:06,725 at the negotiating table, 873 00:23:06,725 --> 00:23:07,258 we will first 874 00:23:07,258 --> 00:23:08,083 hold a closed 875 00:23:08,083 --> 00:23:08,644 meeting. 876 00:23:08,644 --> 00:23:09,927 And you guys did a 877 00:23:09,927 --> 00:23:11,211 great job. So don't 878 00:23:11,211 --> 00:23:11,971 get this 879 00:23:11,971 --> 00:23:13,987 wrong. As I 880 00:23:13,987 --> 00:23:15,455 said, you know, I think 881 00:23:15,455 --> 00:23:16,536 that myself, the chief, and our 882 00:23:16,536 --> 00:23:17,888 city lawyers—they all 883 00:23:17,888 --> 00:23:19,047 did a great 884 00:23:19,047 --> 00:23:22,021 job. The union 885 00:23:22,021 --> 00:23:23,259 was very open 886 00:23:23,259 --> 00:23:24,530 to our proposals, 887 00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:27,881 and we were very open to theirs. So I 888 00:23:27,881 --> 00:23:29,217 think we were able to 889 00:23:29,217 --> 00:23:30,244 negotiate a good 890 00:23:30,244 --> 00:23:31,511 contract and move 891 00:23:31,511 --> 00:23:35,869 on. So, 892 00:23:35,869 --> 00:23:37,929 I guess the 893 00:23:37,962 --> 00:23:39,144 fire department salary structure and so on 894 00:23:39,144 --> 00:23:40,394 also need to be 895 00:23:40,394 --> 00:23:41,925 reviewed. It would be possible to 896 00:23:41,925 --> 00:23:43,099 do both 897 00:23:43,099 --> 00:23:43,965 things at the same time 898 00:23:43,965 --> 00:23:46,227 next year. 899 00:23:46,227 --> 00:23:47,518 Well, actually, I'm 900 00:23:47,518 --> 00:23:48,617 in the process of working with 901 00:23:48,617 --> 00:23:49,424 our new HR 902 00:23:49,424 --> 00:23:50,587 person right now, we're going to 903 00:23:50,587 --> 00:23:51,911 look at 904 00:23:51,943 --> 00:23:53,041 doing a new 905 00:23:53,041 --> 00:23:54,301 salary survey, 906 00:23:54,301 --> 00:23:55,237 because the last 907 00:23:55,237 --> 00:23:56,142 survey we 908 00:23:56,142 --> 00:23:57,143 did was four or 909 00:23:57,143 --> 00:23:58,370 five years ago, so it's 910 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:00,653 time to do a new one. And, 911 00:24:00,653 --> 00:24:01,472 of course, I will 912 00:24:01,472 --> 00:24:02,573 coordinate with 913 00:24:02,573 --> 00:24:02,919 all 914 00:24:02,919 --> 00:24:04,146 employees to move forward 915 00:24:04,146 --> 00:24:05,185 with this 916 00:24:05,185 --> 00:24:06,648 issue. So, um, that's what 917 00:24:06,648 --> 00:24:08,226 I told her 918 00:24:08,226 --> 00:24:09,646 as soon as she came in, 919 00:24:09,646 --> 00:24:10,751 actually, what I 920 00:24:10,751 --> 00:24:12,289 recommended doing 921 00:24:12,289 --> 00:24:14,811 . Um, but of course, Gee, 922 00:24:14,811 --> 00:24:15,840 given our 923 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,199 scale, given 924 00:24:17,199 --> 00:24:18,412 our situation, um, 925 00:24:18,412 --> 00:24:19,735 of course, 926 00:24:19,735 --> 00:24:20,764 we're going to have to 927 00:24:20,764 --> 00:24:22,013 make some serious 928 00:24:22,013 --> 00:24:23,116 decisions in November if this 929 00:24:23,116 --> 00:24:24,688 goes through. But, um, 930 00:24:24,688 --> 00:24:25,970 regardless, 931 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:27,118 if we can 932 00:24:27,118 --> 00:24:27,995 do it, we'll 933 00:24:27,995 --> 00:24:30,479 do it. Good. 934 00:24:30,479 --> 00:24:32,083 OK. Nothing more 935 00:24:32,083 --> 00:24:32,921 . So I make a 936 00:24:32,921 --> 00:24:34,466 suggestion. 937 00:24:34,466 --> 00:24:35,387 Motion to 938 00:24:35,387 --> 00:24:36,932 close the meeting. I 939 00:24:36,932 --> 00:24:37,718 support. 940 00:24:37,718 --> 00:24:38,974 The offer is accepted. 941 00:24:38,974 --> 00:24:40,274 Second proposal. Those who are 942 00:24:40,274 --> 00:24:41,364 "in favor", please say " 943 00:24:41,364 --> 00:24:44,197 yes". Yes. Yes. Yes. You.