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Heat. 70 00:10:31,427 --> 00:10:54,342 [music] 71 00:10:54,352 --> 00:11:16,949 » [music] 72 00:11:16,959 --> 00:11:18,320 » Welcome to the board of works meeting. 73 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Will you please stand and join me for 74 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,269 the pledge of allegiance? 75 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:25,680 To the flag of the United States of 76 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,800 America and to the 77 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,839 stands, one nation under God, 78 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:34,320 indivisible, with liberty and justice 79 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,790 for all. 80 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,800 » All right, if we could do our uh roll 81 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,839 call. 82 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:45,120 >> Mayor Bont 83 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,079 >> here. 84 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:48,959 >> Member Newell. Member Lewis 85 00:11:48,959 --> 00:11:52,399 >> here. Member Farcus, member Mleta 86 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:54,000 >> here. 87 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,200 >> All right. Did everyone have a chance to 88 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,000 look at the minutes? Is there any uh 89 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,680 comments on the minutes or a motion to 90 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:00,480 approve? 91 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,160 >> Make a motion to approve the minutes. 92 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,600 >> I'll second the motion. 93 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,279 >> We have a motion and a second. All in 94 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,519 favor, please signify by saying I. 95 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,040 >> I. 96 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,519 >> All right. Now, we have uh no unfinished 97 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:12,959 business. We get to new business. We 98 00:12:12,959 --> 00:12:14,880 have solicitors permit for Great Lakes 99 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Contracting LLC. Would you like to come 100 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,760 up? 101 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:27,590 You don't have to, but it's up to you. 102 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,519 » Good morning. 103 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:31,519 Um, 104 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,200 I know the solicitor's permit thing has 105 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,360 been something that's come up on uh some 106 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,279 social media and stuff like that, but we 107 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,959 are requesting a solicitor's permit. Um, 108 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:44,480 we are a portage business. Um, we're 109 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,519 located right here on Mcool Road. Um, 110 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:50,800 and I guess there's a lot of things that 111 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,279 I can go over, but I guess the biggest 112 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:55,200 thing is are there specific like 113 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,680 questions that the board needs answered 114 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,600 other than the application that we 115 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,480 already provided as to what our business 116 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,959 is and how it conducts those business 117 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:06,000 practices. 118 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,600 >> I think my only question just for 119 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 clarification because a solicitor's 120 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,240 permit is about going just doortodoor. 121 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,600 Um, I don't know if the right word is 122 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,360 indiscriminately, but it's basically 123 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,040 just going to a neighborhood, knocking 124 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 on every door, and offering somebody the 125 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,279 services. I know that something that you 126 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:22,959 guys do, and I mean this because it's 127 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:24,000 part of what you do, is like if 128 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,600 somebody's had a fire or they've had 129 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,079 damage to the home, you going to a house 130 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:30,079 that's had a fire or damage as you do 131 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:32,000 now, just to clarify, is not in 132 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,079 violation of anything, nor has it ever 133 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:35,680 been, because you're coming to a 134 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:37,760 specific property to address a specific 135 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,519 thing. I just want to make sure that you 136 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,040 know that because what you're asking for 137 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,200 is the ability to just go doortodoor 138 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 offering services. Is that correct? 139 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,240 >> That is correct. Obviously, we're in a 140 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,639 unique situation that's come upon our 141 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:53,519 city right now, which makes it so that 142 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,000 we have vast amounts of damages 143 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,839 throughout a lot of areas, right? Um so, 144 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:02,000 um would I say going to every single 145 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,560 door? No. it would be identifying ones 146 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,839 that um appear that 147 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:11,199 something would need to be done. Um with 148 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:13,279 that um being said, I know it's been 149 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,519 kind of brought up on like other types 150 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,800 of solicitation efforts other than going 151 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 to someone's door, right? 152 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,199 Um, 153 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:25,760 so the biggest thing for us is, you 154 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,600 know, when we're doing social media um, 155 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,839 advertising, it's essentially impossible 156 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:31,440 to sit in front of a homeowner and 157 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 explain to them, you know, what is 158 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,760 necessary for temporary protection of a 159 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,360 home and what kind of would be required 160 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 um, from your insurance company for that 161 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,000 type of action. Also, it's hard to 162 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,440 explain to them, you know, how do you 163 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,360 explain to a homeowner on a on a 164 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,600 platform of like, hey, these are the 165 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,760 requirements to document personal 166 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,680 property correctly. These are the 167 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,480 requirements on how to um you know, 168 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 mitigate water damages or mitigate 169 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,360 microbial growth damages. Those things 170 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,800 are very hard to explain to people 171 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,279 without being in front of them. Um, 172 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:12,160 furthermore, the uh I brought the packet 173 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,839 that we literally give to homeowners 174 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:16,720 when we walk away from them, but about 175 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,800 80% of the information that we give to 176 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,480 homeowners is actually just general 177 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,639 information. Um, even to the extent of 178 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,560 one of the documents that we give 179 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,120 homeowners is actually a document that 180 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,680 says their right to choose a contractor 181 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,639 after a loss. Right? So, even if they 182 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:36,720 don't choose our company, we don't 183 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 really care as long as they're informed 184 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,279 about this is what's going to happen 185 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,440 afterwards. And that's kind of the 186 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,880 biggest thing because most people don't 187 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 know. Um, and what Portage is going to 188 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,240 find out, like I've been to several 189 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,639 disaster areas. What we're going to find 190 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:55,199 out here in about the 60 to 90 day 191 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:58,880 period is that's when homeowners are 192 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,639 going to start getting frustrated and 193 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:02,560 they're not going to know what to do. 194 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,240 having information like this really 195 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,279 helps them with that. 196 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:09,920 >> So 197 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,079 my problem with with with it is first 198 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:14,160 off I commend you for coming in and 199 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,440 wanting to do it legally because right 200 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,040 now we're going through a problem. 201 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,639 There's a lot of companies coming from 202 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:20,079 all over the place that are out knocking 203 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,639 on doors that are not doing it legally. 204 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:24,800 Um but we've been very consistent in the 205 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,240 last couple of years unless it's a 206 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,079 school organization 207 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:30,000 um raising money for you know some 208 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,160 sports team or something. We've not 209 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,480 allowed door-to-door solicitation 210 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,600 because that's the people of Portage 211 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 don't want it. Um, which is why we've 212 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,399 not done it. And again, I think what 213 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:43,839 you're I think what you're offering is a 214 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:46,480 good service. Um, but I think you're 215 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,839 going to be mixed in there with a bunch 216 00:16:47,839 --> 00:16:49,440 of the others that are out there that 217 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,199 maybe are some of them might even 218 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:53,360 unscrupulous that are knocking on doors 219 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,800 and I think it's just going to frustrate 220 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,519 people. So for that reason I I 221 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:00,240 unfortunately I'd have to say no from my 222 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 standpoint to to this. 223 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,920 >> Yeah. Essentially though what is the 224 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,400 alternative? 225 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,480 >> So you have a you have a permitting. 226 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,919 >> You're an independent business. I'm sure 227 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:11,280 you don't understand that you can 228 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,520 advertise, you can through social media, 229 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,959 you can do mailers, and I know all those 230 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:17,679 things are expensive, but 231 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:20,559 um you know, we've denied this multiple 232 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,400 times to other companies, and I I think 233 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,160 it would 234 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,240 I I I don't I just doesn't make sense to 235 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,679 me. I we've been very consistent with 236 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:29,919 it, and we if we start making exceptions 237 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:31,520 in there, and then I'm not sure we'll be 238 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,160 able to deny anybody legally. 239 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,400 I think that you can have some written 240 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,919 standards and that's something that I 241 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:40,000 think we might want to explore. We used 242 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,919 to have vigorous debates about sidewalk 243 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:43,840 waivers and eventually we kind of came 244 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,000 around to a uniform policy on sidewalk 245 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,400 waivers. When I review the idea of like 246 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,520 what would it be to be a solicitor who'd 247 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,679 be approved? I mean to me my first 248 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:55,360 questions are is it a local company 249 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:56,880 which you are so that's like a check 250 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,679 mark you know for you. Um is advertising 251 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,919 a particular issue? Um, I don't mean any 252 00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:03,280 offense to some of the companies we've 253 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,799 turned down, but it's been like Surf, 254 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:07,039 Internet, Frontier, Comcast, companies 255 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:08,559 with like million-dollar budgets and 256 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:10,640 everyone's familiar with the product. To 257 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,240 your point, the different things offered 258 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,080 are often something that's easier 259 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,240 understood in person. I am a bit 260 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,679 concerned about though because of the 261 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:18,960 nature of the business. This is not 262 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,120 about you or the company. How many 263 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,960 people like you that maybe aren't local 264 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,039 could make the case of this is hard to 265 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,039 explain and now we've got a question of 266 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:28,720 what companies within the industry are 267 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,559 we approving and not? The other thing 268 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,240 I've always thought about too is is it a 269 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,520 new company, which I don't know if 270 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,679 that's fair, but it's always been on the 271 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,600 mind. That's why for me, I just wanted 272 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,440 to kind of make sure that you you guys 273 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,679 asking for this is not based on a 274 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:44,000 concern of not being able to reach 275 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,679 people who are damaged because certainly 276 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:47,760 if there's a damaged home in the area 277 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,840 right now, you do. And to be fair, 278 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,520 everyone has the ability to knock on the 279 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,880 door and say, "Hey, I see that your home 280 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,200 is damaged. My company does that." And 281 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,120 by doing that, you're not in violation 282 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,600 of any solicitor rules. as as ironic or 283 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,120 weird as it might sound, it's when 284 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:02,960 you're knocking on doortodoor going to 285 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,799 every place, but that's what falls under 286 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,440 the realm of doortodoor solicitation. I 287 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,039 guess I'm trying to get at is individual 288 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,360 solicitation is not against the city 289 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,320 ordinance. Similar to man, I don't even 290 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,320 know if uh I guess hypothetically the 291 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,160 Comcast guy could be driving around and 292 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,240 someone could be kicking his TV or 293 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,919 throwing it out and say, "Hey, I saw you 294 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:23,679 throwing your TV out. Are you mad about 295 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:25,840 your TV service?" I happen to be the 296 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,360 Comcast guy. 297 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,840 He's not breaking our rules in in that 298 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,240 very not probably going to happen 299 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 example because he's introducing himself 300 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,760 and he's identifying that there's 301 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 somebody needing something. That's why I 302 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,679 wanted to ask if you felt that there was 303 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,280 a concern that your rules don't allow 304 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,200 you currently to go to damaged homes 305 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,520 because I mean they certainly do. 306 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,120 >> Well, I guess that's definitely 307 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,919 something that I didn't perceive within 308 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:53,360 the policy was that like I'm not looking 309 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,760 to go to every single house in Portage, 310 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,320 right? If there's places that are not 311 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,080 damaged, I wouldn't go there. 312 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000 >> Yeah. So, that's that's the that's the 313 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,160 doortodoor. And again, I'm I'm in a spot 314 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,160 where on one hand, I absolutely get what 315 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,360 you're saying and about some of the 316 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,200 uniqueness of your company and on the 317 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,640 other hand, I get Andy's point, but 318 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,559 that's why I want to check to make sure, 319 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,400 let's say that it was a bright sunny day 320 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,160 and there appear to be no homes damaged 321 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,720 in a neighborhood. you uh with your 322 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 information knocking on doors just to 323 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,760 tell people that your company exists and 324 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,760 these are the services you offer. 325 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080 >> That's door-to-door solicitation. You 326 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,760 going to a home that you think is in 327 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,960 need? And again, I you ask me like whose 328 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,039 definition is a home in need? Really, 329 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:36,720 the only thing we can go by is two 330 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,480 things, of course. One, if you're 331 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,080 knocking on every door and somebody's 332 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,280 concerned because you're knocking on 333 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,960 every door, you know, going around a 334 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,480 whole neighborhood. And to be fair, if 335 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,799 every house has holes in it or damage on 336 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:48,400 it, that's still not door-to-door 337 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,480 solicitation. The other thing, of 338 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,080 course, is just it allows somebody to 339 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,840 say, "Hey, this person won't leave my 340 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,600 property or I'd like this person to go 341 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,360 when they're not, which there's a 342 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,720 threshold for that, even without 343 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,480 solicitation." 344 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,559 I guess my question, yeah, to you is is 345 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,039 um if you're concerned that our current 346 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:06,880 rules don't allow you to go to homes 347 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,960 that are damaged after the storm, it 348 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,720 does. You're within your right to go to 349 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,320 homes that are damaged by the storm 350 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,640 right now. The issue would be just going 351 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,640 indiscriminately to homes just to let 352 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,799 them know what you offer. And if you 353 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,159 still want that, then you're still in 354 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:21,280 the right place to apply for the 355 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,320 petition. I just want to make sure that 356 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,679 you understood the difference. 357 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:24,240 >> Okay. Yeah, 358 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,520 >> it sounds like the mayor might be giving 359 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,520 you an out here. 360 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,320 >> I think so. 361 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,240 >> Close. I just want to make sure that 362 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,679 everyone's kind of in agreement with 363 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:32,960 that. 364 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,200 >> Definitely my view. Um, and again, just 365 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,880 speaking as a board of works member, 366 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,039 that's kind of my call. Now, again, in 367 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,679 the event that you're Now, to be fair, I 368 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:42,799 I'm trying to think of a neighborhood 369 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,320 that doesn't have damage right now. 370 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,799 Cardinal Crossings, maybe. 371 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:48,159 Say you were walking around Cardinal 372 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:49,760 Crossings and you're knocking on every 373 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,360 door. And every time somebody answers 374 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,720 the door, you're just giving them 375 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 information and the person says, "Well, 376 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,240 my house isn't damaged." And you were to 377 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,520 say, "Well, I know your house isn't 378 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,799 damaged. I just want you to know that 379 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,280 we're around." That's solicitation 380 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,000 doortodoor, what we regulate. But if 381 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 you're approaching a home because 382 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,600 there's damage on it and you want them 383 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,720 to let you know that you're a company 384 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,640 that does the damage, that's not 385 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,320 door-to-door solicitation that we 386 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,840 regulate. Now, if that person still 387 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,679 tells you to leave and you don't, then 388 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:17,200 there's a separate issue. But I think 389 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,799 you know that already. 390 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:19,679 >> Okay. 391 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:21,919 >> But Dan, he doesn't need the solicitor's 392 00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:24,480 permit to do what the mayor suggested he 393 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,039 do. So hearing the issue framed, I mean, 394 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:28,640 I think the mayor's articulated that 395 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,240 well. The only other caveat I would put 396 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,919 on is just make sure that you're not 397 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:34,799 entering like active disaster scenes, 398 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:36,880 active fire scenes, active police 399 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,640 scenes. As long as it's, you know, as 400 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,320 long as the pathway is clear and there's 401 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,480 no tape around it or anything like that, 402 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880 then yes, you're 403 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600 as the mayor outlined, it's this is a 404 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,840 different case. So it would be okay. 405 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,520 >> You're talking about like an act of fire 406 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,440 or like an act of, you know, something 407 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:53,760 going on. 408 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,799 >> Yeah. Because like the fire department, 409 00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:56,799 the police department have the ability, 410 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:59,200 you know, under law to like to lock down 411 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,559 a scene while they're conducting their 412 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,159 investigation. But once that is 413 00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:04,000 released, then companies can come 414 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,480 forward and start talking to homeowners 415 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,720 when there is a need for that service. 416 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,760 So this is not doortodoor. This is just 417 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,440 being there for people to let them know 418 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 what you do. And we've, you as the mayor 419 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,960 articulated, that's what we're allowed. 420 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440 >> That's not what Chris Crayle told me. 421 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,640 >> We're not going to get into that right 422 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:20,960 now. 423 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840 >> I'm joking. I'm joking. But yeah, I mean 424 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 I know you. I know what you guys do. I 425 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,919 appreciate what you do. My understanding 426 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:29,679 is that what you guys do as I've seen it 427 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:31,520 would never be a violation of our 428 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,919 doortodoor policy. It would be if you 429 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:35,520 were just going on every single door 430 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520 just given information as long as you 431 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 are, I guess the way I would say it, 432 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,840 identifying a home that's in need and 433 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000 offering it. You know, it's not really a 434 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,600 door-to-d dooror solicitation. Again, 435 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,360 you're welcome to apply for doortodoor. 436 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,720 I just don't know if this board's going 437 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,400 to pass it or at least Andy doesn't 438 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,240 sound like he's going to pass it. But I 439 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,520 wanted to make sure you know what you 440 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,720 can do regardless. 441 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000 >> Okay. Um, no, that makes sense. I guess 442 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,559 that's that's the only reason why we 443 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:01,919 applied for it because we wanted to 444 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:03,679 follow the rules and I don't 445 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:04,960 >> we totally appreciate that. 446 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,640 >> Yeah. I didn't I didn't realize that 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,640 that's how they would be essentially 448 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,080 interpreted, I guess. But 449 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,120 >> gets a little bit weird because you got 450 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,039 to even ask yourself legally speaking 451 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:15,440 what counts as anything, right? But 452 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,440 essentially, it's just if there's five 453 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,679 houses on a street and you're just 454 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:21,440 knocking on their door to let them know 455 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,039 that you exist and here's what you 456 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,400 offer. You know, that's doortodoor 457 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,279 solicitation. 458 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:25,600 >> Okay? 459 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600 >> If there's five houses on the street and 460 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,760 they all have a tree on the roof or they 461 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,159 all have been burned down, you going 462 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:33,840 door to door, even if you are going from 463 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,200 one to the other, that's not 464 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,440 solicitation because you are identifying 465 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,600 a particular need. 466 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,679 >> Okay? I'm sure eventually some Comcast 467 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:43,600 guy or some company is going to claim it 468 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,880 doesn't look like this house has cable. 469 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,212 I better knock on the door. But 470 00:24:46,212 --> 00:24:49,200 [laughter] yeah, right. Okay. 471 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 >> Cross that bridge we get there. 472 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600 >> And again, I think we all appreciate the 473 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,960 fact that they're coming in to ask to do 474 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,320 this legally because most don't. 475 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,799 >> Okay. I mean, I think if that's the 476 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,159 case, I mean, I think at this time we 477 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,400 can rescend our 478 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,080 request because it doesn't it doesn't 479 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,159 fit our business model if that's how 480 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:08,960 it's defined. 481 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,480 >> Gotcha. And again, you've got us, you 482 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,840 know, and if you'd like anything like 483 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520 defined, you know, by you I don't even 484 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,880 know if you ever need something from us 485 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,640 just to clarify, hey, this is not the 486 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,320 same thing. Happy to do that, too. 487 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,240 >> Okay. Appreciate it. 488 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,870 >> Thank you. 489 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,200 And that gets us to lifeline collection 490 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,559 contract approval. 491 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:31,919 >> Sure. If anyone's speaking on that or if 492 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:32,640 that's just you, Dan, 493 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,240 >> I'll uh I'll go ahead and get started 494 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600 and Roy, if you want to head up. Um 495 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,400 so a month or two ago the fire 496 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,760 department approached me to start 497 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,480 discussing um consolidating 498 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,559 um the contract for 499 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,320 collecting 500 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,440 uh delinquent ambulance collections and 501 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,640 unifying it with our actual uh existing 502 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,080 contract that runs the actual billing 503 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960 software. And so what was presented was 504 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,480 that um through the good work of the 505 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,400 fire department, they've determined that 506 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320 unifying the two contracts is going to 507 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,000 save the city a significant amount of 508 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,200 money, be a lot smoother, and so what Royy's going to describe a little 509 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,360 bit more in detail is this unification 510 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,919 of the contracts. What I have before you 511 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,360 is something that we were thinking 512 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,799 about. It's a resolution permitting the 513 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,600 signing of this contract to unify the 514 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080 two contracts. And then at some point in 515 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,080 the future when, you know, I can get 516 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240 with the the fire department to do this, 517 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,559 we're going to actually release an RFP 518 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,000 for a combined uh billing and collection 519 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,919 service. But right now, for the 520 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:43,679 convenience of the city and to save 521 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:45,360 significant amounts of money, we're 522 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,120 going to unify the two contracts. So, 523 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,039 you know, if you want to go through some 524 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:50,559 of the some of the savings that you've 525 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:51,919 discovered, Roy, and all that, that'd be 526 00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:53,440 I think it'd be instructive to the 527 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,919 board. 528 00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:56,480 >> Sure. So, [clears throat] the the 529 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,320 previous contract was under Eagle 530 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Collections, which does a lot of uh 531 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,120 different government uh collections, and 532 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,120 they don't necessarily concentrate on 533 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,279 medical collections per se. They can do 534 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,240 it. Uh but with our ambulance billing 535 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,000 company and the separate collections 536 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,520 contract 537 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 uh there were a lot of different hiccups 538 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 that that go along. One would be just 539 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,600 the fact that the collections company uh 540 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,880 and has a 30% fee. Whatever they 541 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,760 collect, they get 30% of it currently. 542 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Uh where this uh company or the 543 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000 subsidiary of our billing company is 544 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,799 only 20%. So, right off the bat, that's 545 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,840 10% uh savings for that. The other thing 546 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,400 is if somebody was to say uh they go by 547 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,240 ambulance, they don't provide insurance 548 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960 information, the they don't respond to 549 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960 the billing company for whatever reason, 550 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,559 and it goes to collections, and then 551 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,120 they respond back and they say that 552 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,720 we're filing for a hardship because 553 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,399 we're we're down our luck. We don't have 554 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:01,919 the money. if we do that to withdraw it 555 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:05,520 from collections is a 15% fee against 556 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240 the city. So by by being generous and 557 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,679 waving off that ambulance bill uh we 558 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:14,320 would actually be owing this collections 559 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,120 company uh 15% where if we do it through 560 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,799 the ambulance billing company we won't 561 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,279 have that. The other challenges that you 562 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:24,240 run into with the ambulance billing is 563 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,919 people have a certain time to respond 564 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:27,200 with their insurance and they don't 565 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,919 respond within a timely manner to the 566 00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:32,880 bill itself and it goes to collections. 567 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,279 There was no way when it was submitted 568 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,360 to the other collections agency to pull 569 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,360 it back and then try to resubmit it to 570 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,679 insurance. It was like a oneanddone 571 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:43,840 deal. this gives us an avenue to 572 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,279 withdraw that and uh try to do what's 573 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,760 best for the uh patients on there and 574 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,600 also opens up for hardship uh and other 575 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640 potential changes down the line for for 576 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,559 uh the community. 577 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,360 >> So again, as part of the review, you um 578 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,720 you Roy and I have personally been 579 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240 working on this for quite a while. Um, I just absolutely have to compliment the 580 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640 fire department for discovering all of 581 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,960 this, um, sifting through a lot of 582 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,279 complicated collections work, uh, 583 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,360 identifying savings, identifying 584 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,440 efficiency. And so a a motion uh to 585 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,320 approve this resolution would be a 586 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,600 motion to allow us to transition to this 587 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640 new contract, unify the two contracts, 588 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,679 and then get started on a follow-on 589 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:33,440 request for proposals to see if there's 590 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,120 additional savings that we could get by 591 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440 doing a unified uh billing and 592 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,200 collections contract. So that's that's 593 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,720 what's going on here. But again, a lot 594 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,240 of a lot of compliments going out to the 595 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760 fire department for figuring out all of 596 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,600 these savings. 597 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760 I I'll second that. Thank you for taking 598 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,440 the time, making the effort to find 599 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,440 that. And I'll certainly make a motion 600 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,640 to approve resolution number 26. 601 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,070 >> I'll second. 602 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,679 » We have a motion and a second. All in 603 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,840 favor, please signify by saying I 604 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,960 >> I And uh for the record, um Carrie will 605 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120 have to figure out what what resolution 606 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,640 number I just couldn't remember what 607 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,320 number we were on, so that's my fault. I 608 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,200 apologize. 609 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,840 >> That's fine. I just texted uh Liz, too, 610 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,440 so maybe I'll get it by the end of the 611 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:15,840 meeting. 612 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,120 >> Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, we'll we'll 613 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,950 announce that when we when we get it. 614 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120 » All right, that'll get us to the FEMA 615 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,200 reimburseable work contracts. Uh Dan, 616 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,840 did you want to explain this one? 617 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,760 >> Yes. All right, so um you you may know 618 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 that uh a rather sign significant storm 619 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200 hit Portage recently. um we are still 620 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,240 under a city and state declared 621 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480 emergency and so one of the things we're 622 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,919 sorting out is how long these 623 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:47,760 emergencies last and what our 624 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,679 flexibility is in terms of procurement. 625 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:54,480 So, uh, one of the things that we have 626 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,919 discovered is that there are a lot of folks out there that 627 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,279 assist with, uh, with FEMA paperwork, 628 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,840 with monitoring services, with tree and 629 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,399 debris removal services. And these 630 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:10,240 services kind of create a three-legged 631 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600 stool. And so, what what cities, 632 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,679 municipalities, what counties are are 633 00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:18,240 looking to do is to put together three 634 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,919 companies to do all three legs of the 635 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:23,760 stool. Um, our team has done a whole lot 636 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,159 of work and and and collected and 637 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:29,039 reviewed a lot of pamphlets and so we 638 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,520 have what we feel are are three very 639 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000 qualified organizations that can do all 640 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,799 three legs of this stool. Um, what we're 641 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:38,960 unclear right now is how the FEMA 642 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,679 reimbursement is going to work. So what 643 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:43,679 you have before you are three separate 644 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:46,960 contracts that we feel if the FEMA 645 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,720 reimbursement comes through like we 646 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,039 think and pending some additional 647 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,039 research I'd like to do on some 648 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,000 procurement procedures during emergency 649 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,720 you know operations uh the contracts in 650 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,919 front of you we are looking to discuss 651 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:04,640 those and possibly approve today with a 652 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,960 caveat. So I will I will state this 653 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 right now. So, what we're looking to do 654 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240 right now is have a motion to approve 655 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,720 the awarding to the three contractors 656 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,399 that are that that are in front of you 657 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:18,960 and those contracts pending legal review 658 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,080 and clarification of the state and FEMA 659 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,720 emergency purchasing procedures and 660 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,640 pending clarification of funding 661 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,679 reimbursement and payment schedules. So, 662 00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:31,039 that's going to be the motion that 663 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,960 someone can make. But right now, I'd 664 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,039 like to open up to additional questions 665 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,640 because this is a this is a confusing um 666 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760 and sometimes uh uh difficult to parse 667 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,760 through time because this is new to a 668 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360 whole lot of counties and cities up here 669 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,640 in Northwest Indiana. 670 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,320 >> Yeah. To put it simply, I mean, this is 671 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,760 something I know the team spent a great 672 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,440 deal, one vetting the companies 673 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,080 involved, and two, we made sure that as 674 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,679 far as we know, like legally speaking, 675 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,519 we got all ducks in a row. I think it 676 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,880 makes sense that we want to do 677 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,640 definitely a check to make sure that 678 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,159 what we're doing is consistent with the 679 00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:04,720 FEMA, you know, policies. And also, I 680 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,919 think that it's important that we have a 681 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:07,519 payment schedule that works for the city 682 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,039 because even if we get reimbursed by 683 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:10,399 FEMA, we need to make sure that we're 684 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:12,240 negotiating a payment schedule that 685 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000 matches the cash on hand, which is where 686 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,840 I think Dan articulated the motion 687 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:24,389 perfectly there. 688 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:27,679 So Dan, I just want to make sure I see 689 00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:29,360 you say three contracts. 690 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,679 >> Well, there there will be three 691 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:33,840 contracts. Um, 692 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,600 >> this was uh the one that Lean just put 693 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,919 in front of the one 694 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:41,840 >> the one I got here. Yeah, 695 00:33:41,840 --> 00:34:03,750 >> hold on. I'll I'll be right there. 696 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080 repeat. 697 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,599 >> No, absolutely. So the the motion I'm 698 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,000 suggesting is to pro uh is to approve 699 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,720 the award to the three contractors 700 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,800 um representing the three contracts in 701 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,320 front of the board of works pending 702 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,800 legal review and clarification of state 703 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 and FEMA emergency purchasing procedures 704 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440 and pending clarification of funding 705 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,280 reimbursement and payment schedules. 706 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,240 Okay, full stop. So, if during 707 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,760 additional legal review we discover that 708 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,720 um we're not within our emergency 709 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:38,480 purchasing procedures, which typically 710 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,040 last about 30 days or depending on if 711 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,520 these declarations had an ending date. 712 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,760 Also, what we have to consider is is 713 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,159 there actually a state of emergency? 714 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,599 Because even though the streets are 715 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,760 clear, um I believe today is the first 716 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,839 day for kids in Portage Township schools 717 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:55,599 to go back to school. Well, how many 718 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,920 limbs are still hanging and dangling 719 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,480 from wires? How many piles of wood are 720 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,800 drying and subject to falling down? And 721 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,880 we've got kids walking past. I mean, 722 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,800 there's there are many many ways to 723 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,560 define emergency. Um, I I I'm not going 724 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,400 to offer an opinion, but again, there 725 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160 are there are so many different ways to 726 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520 define an emergency. Um there is a lot 727 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,320 of findings here that show that we may 728 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,640 still be in such an emergency which 729 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,320 opens up different procedures for 730 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,359 procurement. So again like I I'm the 731 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,599 stuff is fluid. Um we're literally 732 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,320 debating this and the team of uh but the 733 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,079 team of consultants involved here they 734 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,320 absolutely believe we are and they are 735 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,160 showing how we are. There's no confusion 736 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,920 there on their part and I don't think 737 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,359 that there's really confusion on our 738 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:43,520 part. We just want to make sure that our 739 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,480 numbers and make sure that our language 740 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,480 matches the one that they're providing 741 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,760 because I think that as long as what 742 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680 they presented to us holds up 743 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,040 completely, we're good with these 744 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,320 contracts, but we want to have the 745 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,280 ability to hold off if there is a 746 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,160 problem presented by the state or the 747 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,119 And we also believe 748 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,240 >> completely understand. I just wanted to 749 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,119 know how to word that. 750 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,560 >> Yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah. You I mean, 751 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,920 so 752 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920 >> Oh, you could you you could just say so 753 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,599 moved because I've already articulated 754 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,839 the motion. Um, so that that would be my 755 00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:15,119 recommend. But, uh, again, like we there 756 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,280 there's so much research and work going 757 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,359 into this behind the scenes. We don't 758 00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:21,359 want to wait. The last thing we need is 759 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,280 to wait two weeks to the next board of 760 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,440 works meeting and having all of this 761 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,359 debris and, you know, and and things 762 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,359 dangling when we could have people 763 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,040 starting work within the next day or 764 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,280 two. 765 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,880 >> So, Dan, I think someone's about to say 766 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,320 probably so moved or something to that 767 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,349 effect. 768 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:38,720 » So moved. 769 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,480 >> Seconded. So, we have a motion and a 770 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,400 second. All in favor, please signify by 771 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,119 saying I. 772 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,480 >> I. 773 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,349 >> Thank you. 774 00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:53,520 » I lost my agenda. Here it is. 775 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Oh, that gets us to the uh board of 776 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,560 works claims for 82526. Did everyone 777 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,160 have a chance to read? And was there any 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:10,630 questions for him? 779 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,480 Make a motion we approve the claims in 780 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,910 the amount of $525,116. 781 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,480 » Second. 782 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,079 >> We have a motion and a second. All in 783 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,000 favor, please signify by saying I. 784 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,800 >> I. 785 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:33,750 Payroll claims for 8726. 786 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,520 Make a motion. We approve the payroll 787 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,400 claims for 8726 788 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,069 in the amount of $2,76,4101. 789 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:45,040 » Second. 790 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,640 >> We have a motion in a second. All in 791 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,880 favor, please signify by saying I. 792 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,119 >> I. 793 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,680 Any other uh matters to come before Oh, 794 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,359 do we have any bulk appeals? 795 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:56,079 >> No, mayor. 796 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:57,599 >> Okay. Any other matters to come before 797 00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,560 this board? Mr. Cherry, how 798 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,880 >> you're on a roll, Tom? not 799 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,359 >> oddly enough. 800 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:07,920 Um, so this was kind of last minute 801 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,320 because of ticket sales, but Ready to 802 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,480 Live Entertainment, who does the Founder 803 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,000 Square, the bigger concerts, um, they're 804 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,640 doing a concert Saturday night, August 805 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,640 29th, this coming Saturday. Um because 806 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,960 ticket sales have gone well, they'd like 807 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880 to get permission from the board of 808 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,440 works to close PFC Steven Circle Way 809 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,720 just north of the fire station and just 810 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,359 north of South Founder Square. So it'll 811 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:39,200 still be accessible, the square will be 812 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,079 accessible from Main Street north of 813 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,400 that. So Rolley and everybody, you know, 814 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,920 everyone's going to have access to the 815 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,400 square. So, just that little strip to 816 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,440 the east of Founder Square. Uh, I have 817 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400 verified with police and and fire. Have 818 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,000 they Okay, police and fire have been um 819 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320 notified. Everyone's okay with the plans 820 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,800 and just need that little road closure 821 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,640 for Saturday night. 822 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,160 >> I make a motion we approve the road 823 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,030 closure for Saturday, August 29th. 824 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,680 » Second. 825 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,520 >> All in favor, please signify by saying 826 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,920 I. 827 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,280 >> I. 828 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,119 >> Any motion? Oh, Tracy, do you need 829 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:17,760 something? 830 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,400 >> Mhm. 831 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,470 >> Oh, yes. 832 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,640 » Hello. Um, so with the storm that we've 833 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,119 all been talking about, there's been um 834 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,280 several residents who have been calling 835 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,839 the clerk treasures office. Their homes 836 00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,560 have been destroyed, so trees down on 837 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,960 them. They're unlivable. 838 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,920 um they're requesting trash um to be 839 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,960 stopped and sanitary which is not 840 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960 involved here. That'll be in another 841 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,880 meeting. But they're asking for their 842 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520 dash trash to be halted. What we're kind 843 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,200 of thinking on this, it's more on the 844 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,960 sanitary way than the trash way, is if 845 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,359 we can halt them for like the snowbirds, 846 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:04,079 like we what we do with the snowbirds to 847 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,240 stop them for four months and then they 848 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,640 come back and request show their 849 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,880 contractors 850 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,800 work and what it's doing because trash 851 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,400 is a little easier. Trash starts showing 852 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,599 up there. We know people are living 853 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,599 there for the sanitary. It's a little 854 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,119 more difficult. I can't see through the 855 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,160 wall to see if they got a toilet. So, 856 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,839 um, that's what I'm asking to be 857 00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:28,400 approved, that these residents that call 858 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,480 in and we verify that their house is 859 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800 destroyed, they bring in photos, that 860 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,400 kind of stuff, that we're allowed to 861 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,280 suspend their trash fee for four months 862 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,000 and then they have to request it again. 863 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,280 >> I think that makes sense to me, 864 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,040 especially because I mean, and again, 865 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480 they don't have to be present here just 866 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,079 as they're not present here right now. 867 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,160 They several of them I spoke to had 868 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,760 medical emergencies and stuff they had 869 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,880 to do today. 870 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,320 >> I think the fourmonth is a good policy 871 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,920 because it gives us a way to check. 872 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,520 Again, it's like Tracy said, it's 873 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,280 important that we have a cut off date 874 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520 even if it's renewed. So that you know, 875 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,800 you want to believe of course that 876 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,640 everybody and I'm sure almost if not 877 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,319 everybody is really in the situation, 878 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:06,160 but in the event somebody, you know, 879 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,760 starts, you know, coming back to the 880 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,280 house and putting trash out, you want to 881 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,119 make sure that we're watching that. 882 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,480 >> Is there a motion? one made. 883 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240 >> I make a motion that we approve a 884 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,520 fourmonth forgiveness or a delay. What 885 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,480 do you want to call that? 886 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,680 >> I think it's a vacate. 887 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,760 >> It's a vacate. Like vacate. 888 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,359 >> I make a motion we approve a four-month 889 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,079 vacate like we do for snowbirds. So 890 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,000 people whose homes were destroyed um 891 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,599 have a reprieve until they get back in 892 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,359 their home. 893 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:38,160 >> Second. 894 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,839 >> We have a motion and a second. All in 895 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:42,000 favor, please signify by saying I. 896 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,720 >> I. Thank you. 897 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,880 >> Thank you. Any other matters to bring 898 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,599 before the board hearing? None. Is there 899 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,599 a motion to adjurnn? A 900 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:50,880 >> motion to adjurnn. 901 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,280 >> Second. 902 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,960 >> All in favor say I. I. 903 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960 >> I.