1 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,360 All right, it is 5:50 p.m. as of my 2 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,520 time. Uh, we have a public hearing 3 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,799 notice for 5:50 for the intent to 4 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:39,040 exercise special assessment powers 5 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,640 relative to the replacement and 6 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,640 installation of sidewalks, driveway 7 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,320 approaches, and replacement of sanitary 8 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:46,159 sewers. 9 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:47,439 Please take notice that the common 10 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:48,720 council of the city of Portage will 11 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,320 conduct a public hearing to declare its 12 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,000 intent to exercise special assessment 13 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,840 powers relative to replacement and 14 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,520 installation of sidewalks, driveway 15 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,360 approaches, and replacement of sanitary 16 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,399 sewers as follows: sidewalk and or apron 17 00:02:00,399 --> 00:02:02,000 replacement and or construction for the 18 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,680 following streets: East Pleasant Street 19 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,680 from Dwood Street to Hamilton Street. 20 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Sidewalk and or apron replacement and or 21 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,119 construction for the following 22 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:12,319 addresses. 414 Adam Street, 413 Adam 23 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:14,640 Street, 508 Hamilton Street, 426 24 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,200 Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson Street. 25 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,879 Sanitary sewer laterals for the 26 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:20,879 following streets. East Pleasant Street 27 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:22,879 from Dwit Street to Hamilton Street. 28 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:24,800 Sanitary sewer laterals for the 29 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 following addresses. 414 Adam Street, 30 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,000 413 Adam Street, 508 Hamilton Street, 31 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,959 426 Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson 32 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:34,640 Street. The public hearing will be held 33 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,959 on the 10th day of September, 2026 at 34 00:02:36,959 --> 00:02:39,040 5:50 PM in the common council chambers 35 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,800 at the city municipal building, Portage, 36 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Columbia County, Wisconsin. All 37 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,560 interested persons may appear in person 38 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,879 or by their attorney or by agent for the 39 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:48,879 purpose of offering proof either for or 40 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:50,800 against the replacement and construction 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,560 of sidewalks and or aprons and 42 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,640 replacement of sanitary sewers dated 43 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,360 this 18th day of August, 2026. This has 44 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 been published according to law. 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Before we jump into public uh comments 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,200 regarding that, um did just want to kind 47 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,840 of outline the process. Uh answer a 48 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,519 couple of probably would be questions 49 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:12,720 associated with it. Um ahead of that, um 50 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,840 assessments obviously are put in place 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,840 uh because they are a benefit to the 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,560 property. Um the assessments for the 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,360 sanitary sewer throughout um this 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,280 project um are in place because uh we've 55 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,280 found a number of uh different 56 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 deficiencies in relation to sanitary 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,159 service laterals. Um what a lot of 58 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:35,840 people don't realize is those sanitary 59 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,680 service laterals are the homeowner's 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,159 responsibility all the way from the home 61 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:42,799 to the main itself. Um, so when we do 62 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:45,040 these projects, we replace that portion 63 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 for the homeowner uh from the main to 64 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,519 behind the curb line. So if there was 65 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:51,200 ever an issue down the line, it would 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 likely be on the 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 um sidewalks and aprons are included in 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,360 the project scope um to primarily do 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,159 spot replacements uh where utility 70 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:03,840 laterals are in conflict as well as 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,840 locations to decrease trip hazards and 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 improve slopes. Um existing gravel 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,120 aprons are also upgraded in these uh 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,360 projects to meet city standards. Um 75 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,280 topics of assessments were brought 76 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:18,880 through in the municipal services and 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,000 utilities committee back in July. Um and 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,680 then a preliminary resolution was 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 adopted by the council in August. Um the 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,840 reason why this took place in July is we 81 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:32,000 have gone through uh this process a 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,840 number of times and we like to use 83 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:37,600 relevant information. Um in years past 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 um we've used engineer estimates for 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,919 those special assessments and then 86 00:04:41,919 --> 00:04:44,720 there's been a wide range of whether or 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,479 not those engineers estimates are 88 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:49,040 correct. Um so we send out a preliminary 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,639 assessment role and say it's $400 or 90 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,840 $500 for a particular and then when we 91 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:55,600 do the final it comes back and it's 92 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,040 $1,500. we'd rather give you a a a real 93 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,280 number um that we think is going to be 94 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,600 adequate for those assessments before 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,639 then final assessment role is complete. 96 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,280 Um with the final assessment role that's 97 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,080 will be coming in the coming months. Um 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,080 how we do that is we take the um prices 99 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,600 that were provided to us through our 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,960 public bid opening and yield measure 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,280 each individual property. Um, so you 102 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,039 will only be assessed for the work that 103 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:30,310 took place in association. 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,600 With that said, I think we've 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,800 all right. Uh, if anyone would like to 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,400 speak, you can come up and state your 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,639 name and address into the microphone, 108 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,320 and you'll have five minutes to share 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:56,950 any concerns, feedback, questions. 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Um, I'm from 229 East Pleasant Street. 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,600 I just got a couple questions. How come 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,520 some driveways did not have to be 113 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,800 replaced and some did? Been noticing up 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,039 the street that two or three driveways 115 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:13,199 got to stay. 116 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:14,880 There's nothing wrong with my driveway. 117 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,880 I don't know. 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,759 If if driveways were in conflict with 119 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:23,199 any of the utilities or if the curb line 120 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:25,919 uh changed elevation ever so slightly 121 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:29,440 throughout the project, that means that a 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,800 >> Okay. Um and I I used to live on a a 123 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,720 flat street. Now it's a kind of a hill 124 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 going to the Is that what was supposed 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,400 to be or 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,000 >> Yep. to improve drainage in the area. So 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 every time it rains, I got a lake in 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,680 front of my house. Now 129 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,319 >> we have 130 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,800 >> because of the it's not level yet. 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,240 >> Con the concrete is not yet complete 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,560 some of the the areas. 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 >> Then one more question. When are these 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,560 assessments due? So, is that going to be 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 at tax time all at once or 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,560 >> So, depending on the assessment uh 137 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,909 amount um if it's under $300, 138 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:13,520 » expect a lump sum payment 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,720 >> remain under 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,240 >> um if it's between 300 and 1500, you 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,639 have the option to add it to tax roll 142 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:22,720 and three installments. And then if it's 143 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,360 over 1500, have the option tax. 144 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,800 >> Perfect. 145 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,160 That's it. Thanks. 146 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560 >> What was your name, please? 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:44,469 >> Thank you. 148 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:51,029 The 149 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:51,599 » Go ahead. 150 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:53,680 >> I'm Mike Pine at 221 East Pleasant 151 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,879 Street. I was looking forward to uh 152 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,520 Pleasant Street getting fixed and I 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 realized I think I talked to Aaron at 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,599 the public works and to me he said the 155 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:06,240 street went down because of that. I want 156 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,680 to do a little history and hopefully I 157 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,120 can get it done in five minutes. So I 158 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,520 apologize for that. I lived on a street. 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,759 I had old sidewalks. I replaced them 160 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,639 myself. Had the guy I think his name is 161 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:19,520 B something. He does the lifting where 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,960 he put the stuff under the concrete 163 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,759 lift. I had a couple of trip hazards. my 164 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:25,520 two sections that were my driveway. I 165 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,240 had an asphalt drive approach before 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Pleasant Street was a little higher. I 167 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,840 had the sidewalk raised so people 168 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,240 wouldn't bump their feet on the ledges 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,320 that I had on my sidewalk. I did it a 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 couple of times. My sidewalk was raised 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,560 up. So, my driveway was actually below 172 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,640 the sidewalk. Now, it's even with the 173 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,560 sidewalk. I have what I call a mogul 174 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,120 hill. Now, my approach is quite 175 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,480 dangerous. It's a ramp up for me. I had 176 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,560 a nice flat one. Now, I have a ramp. I'm 177 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,880 hopefully I'm not exaggerating too much, 178 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 but my wife hates it. I have what's 179 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,920 called a Lincoln MKZ car. That's her 180 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,839 favorite car. It's a 217. It's a low 181 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:04,640 rider. It just barely hits the sidewalk 182 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,720 when I go up my approach and hit the 183 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,959 sidewalk. So, it's about this much 184 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:12,640 between my Lincoln and the sidewalk. So, 185 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,480 it also was too skinny at the top. They 186 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,880 said they gave me the same driveway. I 187 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,640 now drive on a corner of what'll be my 188 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,480 new grass because the approach at the 189 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,160 top is not as wide as it is at the 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,240 street. It did flare. I complained to 191 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Aaron. He did do me a favor and the guy 192 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,880 from the cement company wasn't happy. He 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,880 did do the flare to give me the flare at 194 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,320 the street level because I had this odd 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,720 looking ramp thing and then they finally 196 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,320 put the flare on the one side. Looks 197 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,959 better. But my wife's totally concerned 198 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,760 about where we sit as hazard now. If I 199 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,040 have a kid that's walking to school that 200 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,279 now goes down my mogul hills, I'll call 201 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:47,680 it. My responsible is the city 202 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,600 responsible for that because I it's ice 203 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,519 and snow, I'm going to have a problem I 204 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:52,800 never had before that people are going 205 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,800 to slip down my approach now into 206 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Pleasant Street. So that's all I want. I 207 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,080 just want to make sure you're aware of 208 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,240 it that when it comes insurance time, I 209 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,320 don't pay for somebody the mailman or 210 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,760 somebody falling into the Pleasant 211 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Street or the Amazon man or something 212 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,920 like that because it's not flat anymore. 213 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,399 It's a nice slope. 214 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:13,279 I love the project. I love having the 215 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,040 terrace look the way it does. I'm glad 216 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,480 to see that it'll get paved and have a 217 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,399 decent street on Pleasant Street, but I 218 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:19,839 personally, I'm speaking for myself, the 219 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:21,519 mogul hill scares me. It's actually 220 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:23,519 higher on one side than is the other 221 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,680 side because contractor matched my 222 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,839 sidewalk, which had to, like I said, 223 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:30,160 when I first started, had to be raised 224 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,760 to get rid of a trip hazard a few years 225 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,040 ago. So, I'm not going to say you have 226 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,320 to change it. I just want you to be 227 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,320 aware that my responsible now for a 228 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,680 dangerous thing that wasn't there. in my 229 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,600 driveway before. I don't know if you 230 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,720 know that answer. 231 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:58,310 That's all I ask. Touch you guys. 232 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,480 There any uh any others that would like 233 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:13,910 to come up and speak? 234 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Last call for any about the public 235 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,440 hearing for the special assessments 236 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:25,509 installation side. 237 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:26,959 » State your name and address for the 238 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:28,399 >> Yeah. Good evening. My name is Carrie 239 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:31,839 Nielsen. I'm at uh 413 uh East Pleasant 240 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:34,480 Street. Uh, I watched the I'm just 241 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,320 making an observation. I thought the 242 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,800 construction folks did a pretty good job 243 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,360 of laying all this work down and I'm 244 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,760 certain there was some uh issues that 245 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 come along, but specifically my concern 246 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,279 uh was this has probably been done 247 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:54,079 before. So, what decisions go into uh uh 248 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:56,720 allocating who pays for what? Is it a 249 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,200 standard operating procedure? Let's say 250 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,959 this was done at a different block a 251 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,680 year ago. Are the same standards uh 252 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,240 being applied as far as charging the 253 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,920 citizens? 254 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,279 You know, because it looks like 255 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:12,720 percentages, 100 50% of this, that kind 256 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,680 of thing. I I'm looking for an answer of 257 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,920 uh when it was done before, are you 258 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,560 applying the same standards or do you 259 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,040 have an open uh book to say we can go 260 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,440 here, go there? How do you determine 261 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,320 those costs for the citizens? Is it 262 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,720 consistent with the past? Sure. 263 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Um, so what what that does is it goes 264 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,480 through our municipal services and 265 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,320 utilities committee first and then 266 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,880 obviously to the council for approval of 267 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,079 a preliminary resolution. Um, typically 268 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:46,800 the municipal services recommends what 269 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,040 items are going to be special assessed. 270 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,360 Um, what I can say for this project, it 271 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,760 is in comparison to projects of similar 272 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,360 nature in the past. uh primarily the uh 273 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,279 West Conan Street project as well as our 274 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:00,959 West Carol Street project that took 275 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:02,560 place 276 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:03,920 um which are similar kind of 277 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,790 neighborhood. 278 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,480 » Uh one more thing as far as that uh 279 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 assessment sheet that came in the mail. 280 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,000 So that's not the actual cost. Is this 281 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,760 being evaluated still? 282 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,680 >> Correct. That is correct. We field 283 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:24,349 measure everything that goes in and then 284 00:13:24,349 --> 00:13:26,639 [clears throat] a final uh assessment 285 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,839 notice will be provided. 286 00:13:29,839 --> 00:13:32,399 >> And can you recap uh if we can make 287 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:34,079 installments? I know you did do it 288 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:37,120 earlier. Can you recap again if we can 289 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,720 uh make installments? 290 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,519 >> Yep. So if it's $300 or less, the 291 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,279 expectation was would be that you would 292 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:45,839 pay in one lump sum. If it's between 293 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:48,480 $300 and $1,500, 294 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,240 you have the ability to add that to your 295 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,880 tax roll in three annual installments. 296 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,519 And if it's above $1,500, you have the 297 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,360 ability to add it to your tax ro in five 298 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,120 annual installments. 299 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,519 >> Okay, great. That's all I got. Thanks. 300 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:03,040 Thank you. 301 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,639 >> Before we close that out, just to 302 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,959 clarify, no action on these assessments 303 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:09,120 are taking place tonight. Uh that will 304 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,680 come by way of a final resolution coming 305 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:25,910 months. 306 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,079 Rachel Schmidt, I just have a curiosity 307 00:14:28,079 --> 00:14:28,639 question. 308 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:30,959 >> What's your address? 211 East Pleasant. 309 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:31,839 >> What was that? 310 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:34,399 >> 211. 311 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,279 >> What's with the concrete, 312 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:40,079 whatever that goes across the end of the 313 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:44,399 200 block? Why was that put there? 314 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:45,519 It was never there. 315 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,240 >> That's a drainage curb um to take water 316 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 from uh areas of higher elevation across 317 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,160 the roadway. 318 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,760 >> Okay. 319 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,360 >> Kind of an odd thing because it was 320 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,440 never there and several of us have 321 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,160 questioned. 322 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,560 >> Sure. Yep. It's a it's a standard kind 323 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,440 of design practice for watershed. 324 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,230 >> Okay. 325 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,949 Any 326 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:17,509 others? 327 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:20,720 for the final assessment or 328 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,040 the intent to exercise special 329 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,030 assessment public hearing? 330 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:43,189 All right, we'll close that at 6:04 p.m. 331 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:46,000 » All right, ging into the regular common 332 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,639 council meeting scheduled for 6 PM. 333 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,440 Becky, call the role, please. 334 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,240 >> Bernander, 335 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,120 >> here. 336 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,600 >> Crowley, 337 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,839 >> here. Dunahee here. Boss excused. Green 338 00:15:57,839 --> 00:15:58,639 >> here. 339 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,880 >> Paul excused. Schlinkert 340 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,440 >> here. 341 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,160 >> Trento 342 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,639 >> here. 343 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:03,680 >> Wutzel. 344 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:10,150 >> We have a quorum. Pledge of allegiance. 345 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,800 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the 346 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,440 United States of America and to the 347 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 republic for which it stands. One nation 348 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,920 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 349 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:36,470 justice for all. 350 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Approval of the agenda. 351 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,680 >> I have no changes. 352 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,920 >> Public comment. I have received none. 353 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,079 >> I have received none. 354 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:47,040 >> Proclamation for 2026 fire prevention. 355 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,470 >> All right. 356 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,199 Okay. City of Portage 2026 fire 357 00:16:53,199 --> 00:16:55,519 prevention proclamation. Whereas the 358 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:57,360 city of Portage is committed to ensuring 359 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,120 the safety and security of all those 360 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 living in and visiting Portage. And 361 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,920 whereas fire remains a serious public 362 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,439 safety concern both locally and 363 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,600 nationally and the presence of lithium 364 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,000 ion batteries in many household devices 365 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,319 introduce fire risks. And most of the 366 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:15,039 rechargeable electronics used in homes 367 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:17,280 daily, including smartphones, tablets, 368 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 laptops, power tools, ebikes, e- 369 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,360 scooters, and toys are powered by 370 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,079 lithium ion batteries, which if misused, 371 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,319 damaged, or improperly charged can 372 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,039 overheat, start a fire, or explode. And 373 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:31,039 whereas the National Fire Protection 374 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,160 Association, NFPA, reports an increase 375 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,120 in battery related fires, underscoring 376 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,960 the need for public education on the 377 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,520 safe use of lithium ion batteries and 378 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,480 devices. And the way lithium ion battery 379 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,799 devices are charged can make a 380 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,120 difference in helping prevent home 381 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,400 fires. And whereas safe charging 382 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,280 includes using the cord and charger that 383 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,120 came with your device or when approved 384 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,520 by the manufacturer, charging on a hard 385 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 flat surface, watching for warning signs 386 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,559 like devices that are very hot or about 387 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:07,840 to swell, unplugging when fully charged, 388 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,840 charging larger devices like ebikes 389 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,240 outside and away from access. And 390 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,120 whereas residents are encouraged to 391 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,799 understand that safe charging means 392 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:18,880 making smart choices every time they 393 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,840 plug in and for portage fire rescue 394 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,000 remains dedicated to reducing the 395 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,160 occurrence of fires through prevention, 396 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,840 safety education, and community 397 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,280 outreach. And whereas the 2026 fire 398 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,919 prevention week theme, charge into fire 399 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:36,559 safety, safe charging is a superpower, 400 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:39,679 serves to remind all residents that safe 401 00:18:39,679 --> 00:18:41,919 charging can help reduce the risk of 402 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:44,480 fires in homes and communities. Now 403 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,880 therefore, I, Matt Feny, mayor of the 404 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,280 city of Portage, do hereby proclaim 405 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,440 October 4th through 10th, 2026 as fire 406 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,120 prevention week throughout the city of 407 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,679 Portage and urge all residents to learn 408 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:00,720 about and practice safe charging habits. 409 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Given under my hand this 10th day of 410 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:26,950 September, 2026 in the city of Portage. 411 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,039 Justin's in. 412 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:31,039 >> Good thing we got the official portage 413 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:35,083 photographer, you know, aka 414 00:19:35,083 --> 00:19:36,000 [laughter] 415 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,799 one. 416 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:43,750 >> Yeah, exactly. 417 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,390 » Say fire. [laughter] 418 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,750 Try to get a little closer. 419 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,928 Hey, one more. 420 00:20:01,938 --> 00:20:03,039 [laughter] 421 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:03,520 >> Yeah. 422 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,523 >> Bring your hand up like this. 423 00:20:06,523 --> 00:20:16,470 [laughter] 424 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,919 » Say left or [laughter] right. They all 425 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:20,400 were. 426 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,160 Is that like a standard? 427 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,160 >> They literally were all left. 428 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,919 >> Absolutely. 429 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:27,919 >> I just like to thank the mayor, uh, city 430 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,480 council, all city staff members that 431 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,280 recognize, uh, fire prevention week and, 432 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,280 uh, with this proclamation. 433 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Um, fire prevention is a, uh, very 434 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,039 integral component in life safety and we 435 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,600 as a department take it very seriously. 436 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,559 Um, so we really recognize or we really 437 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:48,320 want to thank you guys so much for this 438 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,960 and uh it means a lot to us. So I want 439 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,280 to remind everybody that uh open house 440 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,720 is going it's got a little bit of a 441 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,320 change this year. Uh we're going to go 442 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,480 on a Thursday night. Uh we're going to 443 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 stay away from uh a busy fall Saturday. 444 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,679 So it will be October 8th from 4 to 7. 445 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:08,000 So put it on your calendars. We'll be uh 446 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,200 pushing it out. What's that? 447 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,080 >> We'll be here. 448 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,280 >> Perfect. Great. 449 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,960 >> We'll make sure this gets done nice and 450 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,440 early so you guys can stop down. 451 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,029 >> Thank you again. We appreciate it. 452 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:26,400 » Resolution 26-018 relative to Theresa H. 453 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Johnson, Sergeant. 454 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,799 >> So, this one is in recognition of all 455 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:32,880 the great work that Teresa Johnson has 456 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,120 done for the city of Portage Police 457 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,039 Department. I'll read this off. Uh 458 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:38,799 whereas Terresa Johnson served the 459 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,400 Portage Police Department and the city 460 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,720 of Portage from January 1999 until 461 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,360 September 2026. And during Terresa 462 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,840 Johnson's 27-year tenure with the city, 463 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,280 she was assigned to the detective 464 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,120 division, held the rank of sergeant, and 465 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,200 obtained her master's degree. Terresa 466 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,880 performed many roles within the 467 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,799 department and the Portage community, 468 00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:58,640 including the triad officer, citizen 469 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,320 academy instructor, field training 470 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,400 officer, and Portage youth baseball 471 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,799 board member. And whereas Teresa Johnson 472 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:06,240 heightened the police department's 473 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,240 professionalism and image and touched 474 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,919 countless lives with her compassion 475 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:12,400 first approach and while also serving as 476 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,640 the past Wisconsin association of women 477 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,559 police president and current board 478 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,640 member. And whereas Terresa Johnson 479 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,240 dedicated her professional life to 480 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,799 service and excelled in mentorship and 481 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,039 leadership amongst our agency and the 482 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,200 law enforcement community partners. And 483 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,039 now, therefore, be it resolved that I, 484 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,039 Matt Feny, mayor of the city of Portage, 485 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,039 and on behalf of the common council, the 486 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,039 employees and citizens of Portage, do 487 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,520 hereby thank Teresa Johnson for her 488 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760 commitment to protecting and serving the 489 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,760 city of Portage, recognize her many 490 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 years of service, and wish her a long 491 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:46,320 and joyful retirement. Dated this 10th 492 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,275 day of September, 2026. 493 00:22:50,275 --> 00:22:54,850 [applause] 494 00:22:54,860 --> 00:23:09,669 » [applause] 495 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:12,640 » Teresa prepared a 10-minute speech that 496 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,840 she's going to let [laughter] everyone. 497 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,000 If 498 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,200 >> you know me, that's not true. 499 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,320 >> Yeah. On behalf of Teresa, no. Um she's 500 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,400 a considerably huge loss for our 501 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,039 department uh in the way of experience, 502 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:24,559 in the way of being a mentor and a 503 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,400 leader in our department. Um it's going 504 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,960 to be hard to replace her. Um I've 505 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,960 worked my entire career with Teresa and 506 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,640 we have so many great memories to share 507 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,039 and uh a lot of trials and tribulations 508 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,720 along the way, but um she's such a a 509 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,000 wonderful member of our department. 510 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Going to be very well missed and I hope 511 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,400 you have one heck of a retirement. 512 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,679 I have a picture up front. 513 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,080 >> Can we do a motion first, 514 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,200 >> please? [laughter] 515 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,880 >> Oh. Ah. 516 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,280 >> Go ahead. 517 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,919 >> All right. Other person green. 518 00:23:55,919 --> 00:24:00,390 >> I'd like to make a motion to 519 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,830 accept resolution 26-018. 520 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,039 » All person. 521 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,039 >> I'll second. 522 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,520 >> Any further discussion? Becky, call the 523 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,000 roll, please. 524 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,559 >> Raleigh. 525 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:13,039 >> I. 526 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:14,480 >> Donny. Hi 527 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:14,960 >> Green. 528 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,520 >> Hi 529 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,240 >> Schlinkert. 530 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,640 >> Hi 531 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,279 >> Tanto. 532 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:17,760 >> Hi 533 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,400 >> Watzel. 534 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:18,799 >> Hi 535 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:19,520 >> Fernander. 536 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,630 >> Hi 537 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:51,442 » now. It's official. 538 00:24:51,452 --> 00:25:11,190 » [laughter] 539 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:22,882 » The whole family up there. 540 00:25:22,892 --> 00:25:45,830 [laughter] 541 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,919 I'd probably take better pictures over 542 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:48,080 here. 543 00:25:48,080 --> 00:26:02,182 >> You probably 544 00:26:02,192 --> 00:26:10,698 [applause] 545 00:26:10,708 --> 00:26:11,840 » [laughter] 546 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:17,903 >> No 547 00:26:17,913 --> 00:26:22,549 [clears throat] 548 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,000 approval of minutes of the common 549 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,510 council meeting August 13, 2026. 550 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,400 » Person Bordander. 551 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,559 >> I'll move to approve the meeting minutes 552 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,279 of August 13, 2026. 553 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:36,400 All person Wetszel, 554 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,760 >> I'll second it. 555 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240 >> Any further discussion? 556 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,480 All 557 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,000 >> personinker. Can 558 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,840 >> I ask any questions about what happened 559 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480 in those minutes? Follow-ups from things 560 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,799 that we talked about or No. 561 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,000 >> Yeah. I'm wondering if there is any 562 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,799 update on the park injury that we agreed 563 00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:56,480 to ask the insurance carrier to do their 564 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,640 thing. 565 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,760 >> I've not heard anything. 566 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,159 >> Okay. Thanks. And then also um the 567 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:02,320 contract for the blood services. Did 568 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,320 that get completed? 569 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,559 Okay, 570 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,039 >> perfect. Okay, thanks. 571 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:13,510 >> Any further discussion? 572 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440 » All right, Becky, call the roll, please. 573 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,400 >> Uh, [clears throat] Dunny, 574 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,360 >> hi. 575 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:17,840 >> Green, 576 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,480 >> hi. 577 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,039 >> Slinkert, 578 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:19,440 >> hi. 579 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,080 >> Tranto, 580 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,559 >> hi. 581 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:21,120 >> Wetzel, 582 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:21,600 >> hi. 583 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,240 >> Bernander, 584 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,720 >> hi. 585 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,279 >> Cwley, 586 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:23,840 >> hi. 587 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,000 >> Passes. 588 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,919 >> Consent agenda, Police and Fire 589 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,919 Commission, July 29th. Library Board, 590 00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,440 August 11th. Business Improvement 591 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,799 District Board of Directors, August 592 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,039 12th, Legislative and Regulatory, August 593 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,760 13th, Park and Wreck, August 17th, Plan 594 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Commission, August 17th, Municipal 595 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,000 Services and Utilities, August 27th. 596 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640 Finance Personnel September 3rd. 597 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,760 >> All person Green. 598 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,679 >> Make a motion to approve the consent 599 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:48,640 agenda. 600 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,840 >> All the person wet. 601 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,880 >> Second it. 602 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,640 >> Any further discussion? All person. Um 603 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200 I'm wondering there was a zoning um 604 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,320 change approved that requires a um 605 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,760 conditional use permit and an update to 606 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,919 the comprehensive plan. Will those be 607 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,720 coming back to full 608 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,440 council or will those be happening only 609 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,159 at municipal services 610 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:14,399 specifically the one at 341 Cemetery 611 00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:17,039 Road? That's the one that started off at 612 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,039 plan commission. It will come before the 613 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,640 council before its approval and does 614 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480 need a comprehensive plan as well. So, 615 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,159 that's in the works, but it will be 616 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:28,320 coming here before it's it's done. Yeah. 617 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,679 >> Thank you. 618 00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:37,190 >> Other questions. 619 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,679 » Becky, call the roll, please. 620 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:40,240 >> Green. 621 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,960 >> Hi. 622 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,600 >> Slinkert. 623 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,080 >> Hi. 624 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,880 >> Tranto. 625 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,520 >> Hi. 626 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,159 >> Wetszel. 627 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:44,640 >> Hi. 628 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,440 >> Bernander. 629 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,080 >> Hi. 630 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,640 >> Cwley. 631 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,200 >> Hi. 632 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,840 >> Donahe. 633 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480 >> Hi. [clears throat] 634 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,480 >> New business. Finance Personnel 635 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,399 discussion and possible action on claims 636 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,080 for August. 637 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,279 >> All the person Bernander 638 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:01,350 >> move to approve 4,221,480.80 639 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,720 in total paid claims and debt. 640 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,760 >> All the person green. 641 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,039 >> A second. 642 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,510 >> Any further discussion? 643 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,720 » Becky, color roll, please. 644 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,360 >> Slinkert. 645 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,919 >> Hi. 646 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:14,720 >> Tranto. 647 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,200 >> Hi. 648 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,000 >> Wetszel. 649 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,799 >> Hi. 650 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:17,440 >> Bernander. 651 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,000 >> Hi. 652 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,559 >> Cwley. 653 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:19,039 >> Hi. 654 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:19,679 >> Donahe. 655 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,440 >> Hi. [clears throat] I 656 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,919 >> passes discussion and possible action 657 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:26,000 ordinance 26-009 658 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,760 relative to discontinuing the joint 659 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,200 municipal court between the city of 660 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,360 Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin and 661 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,880 the village of Endeavor, Marquette 662 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,279 County, Wisconsin. 663 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,960 >> So this is a request from the village 664 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,960 endeavor. We knew it may be coming for some time given how little they use 665 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,039 our court in a given year. There's only 666 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,720 a handful of cases that come from the 667 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,039 village of Endeavor to our joint court. 668 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,279 So this is um their request and um from 669 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,360 staff's perspect perspective there is no 670 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,120 concern with the request. What it 671 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,240 ultimately ends up doing is just 672 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,440 creating some administrative work for 673 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,279 the city of portage for the design 674 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,640 impact our court cases. Um we would have 675 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640 to pass this ordinance amend our 676 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,480 ordinances instead of saying joint court 677 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,279 be a portage municipal court. Um we'll 678 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,440 have a court inspection complete a 679 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880 couple other items and then um um have 680 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,120 our own court going forward. Um only 681 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,480 thing that could still impact us from 682 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,559 the village of Endeavor is past cases if 683 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,720 they need to come back to our court, but 684 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,480 that's would be a small impact if any. 685 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200 And um financially it does not really 686 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,799 impact the city because they used our 687 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,200 court so little. We we always um bore 688 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,279 the majority if not all the costs 689 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:36,799 associated with our court because of 690 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,799 that. So staff would recommend 691 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,559 considering an approval of the villages 692 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,320 request. 693 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,880 >> That was the first reading. 694 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,559 Okay. too soon. 695 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:49,600 >> All person green. 696 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,360 >> I make a motion to suspend the rules and 697 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600 read ordinance 26-009 698 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,950 second reading. 699 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,679 » President Tranto. 700 00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:01,039 >> Second. 701 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,520 >> Any further discussion? 702 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,880 Becky, call a roll, please. 703 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,559 >> Tranto. 704 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:07,600 Butel. Hi. 705 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,799 >> Bernander. Hi. 706 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:09,760 >> Cwley. Hi. 707 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,880 >> Dun. Hi. 708 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,440 >> Green. 709 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,640 >> Hi. Slinker. 710 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,070 >> Hi. 711 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,559 Uh, ordinance 26-009, 712 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,320 ordinance for discontinuing the joint 713 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,679 municipal court between the city of 714 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,200 Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin, and 715 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,480 the village of Endeavor, Marquette 716 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,919 County, Wisconsin. This is the second 717 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:27,600 reading. 718 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,640 >> All person green. 719 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,240 >> Make a motion to adopt ordinance 26-009. 720 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,279 >> All the person Bernander 721 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:34,480 >> second. 722 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,389 >> Any further discussion? 723 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:39,840 » Becky, call the role, please. 724 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,720 >> Wel, 725 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,760 >> I. 726 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,399 >> Bernander, 727 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:43,760 >> hi. Cwley 728 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,159 >> I 729 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:44,799 >> Dunny. 730 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:45,519 >> Hi 731 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:46,000 >> Green. 732 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,559 >> Hi 733 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:47,120 >> Schlinkert. 734 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,600 >> Hi 735 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,159 >> Tranto. 736 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:52,549 >> Hi. 737 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,000 » Discussion and possible action 738 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480 resolution 26-019 739 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,240 relative to exemption from county 740 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:08,230 library tax 2027. 741 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880 » Person Green. I got a motion to adopt 742 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120 resolution 26-009 743 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,029 or 019 sorry 744 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:19,840 » person trying to 745 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,200 >> second 746 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,350 >> any further discussion 747 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,720 call the roll please 748 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,519 >> Bernander 749 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:28,080 >> hi [clears throat] 750 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,640 >> Cwley 751 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,120 >> I 752 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,320 >> Donnahe I 753 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,720 >> green 754 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,279 >> hi 755 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:31,840 >> Slinkert 756 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,399 >> hi 757 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:32,960 >> tranto 758 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,440 >> hi 759 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,080 >> Wzel 760 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,720 >> hi 761 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,240 >> yeses 762 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,919 legislative and regulatory discussion 763 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:39,519 and possible action on change of agent 764 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,600 foria LLC 125 WA trail class B 765 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,600 combination license to Jeremy 766 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,509 Santorelli. 767 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:55,679 So in the packet I have that um Mr. 768 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:58,159 Jeremy Centrelli he is here also he is 769 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,159 buying the entire LLC. So that's why 770 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:01,679 he's just required to be a change of 771 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:03,600 agent and he's changing the trade name 772 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 which also falls under it can just be a 773 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,760 change like this. We don't he does not 774 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,279 need to apply for the entire new 775 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,440 license. 776 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,279 So and he's had the background check and 777 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,200 everything is 778 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,399 >> all the person Bernierander 779 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:18,399 >> move to approve change of agent for 780 00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:22,480 Rolandi LLC to Jeremy St. 781 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,279 Person Wetzel. 782 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:24,799 >> I'll second it. 783 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,789 >> Any [clears throat] further discussion? 784 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,799 » Becky color roll please. 785 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:31,440 >> Caleley 786 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,080 >> I 787 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,279 >> Dunny I 788 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:33,760 >> Green. 789 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,480 >> Hi. 790 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,039 >> Linkert. 791 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:35,440 >> Hi. 792 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,559 >> Trentto. Hi 793 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,320 >> Wel Ernander. 794 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,880 >> Hi 795 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120 >> passes. 796 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880 >> Municipal services and utilities 797 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,320 discussion and possible action 798 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,799 resolution number 26-020 799 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,480 relative to Bureau of Aeronautics 800 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,559 airport layout plan project approval for 801 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,600 the fuel farm. 802 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000 >> Uh so this resolution uh essentially 803 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,640 gives authorization to the BOA to move 804 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,039 forward with the fuel farm relocation 805 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,399 project. Um, back in 2023, we petitioned 806 00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:06,240 the Secretary of Transportation for 807 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,320 airport improvement aid associated with 808 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,159 this project. And then in 204, 809 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,399 uh, we also passed a resolution that 810 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:18,399 gave approval, uh, for the VO8. 811 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:19,919 Planning and bidding processes 812 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,560 associated with that project. Um design 813 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,280 work wrapped up earlier this year and 814 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,280 there was a public bid opening held on 815 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,399 May 7th uh where Metco Fuel Systems 816 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:33,200 provided the low qualified bid for the 817 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,159 project. The total anticipated costs are 818 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,200 roughly $900,000 819 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,960 uh which includes METCO's construction 820 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000 contract as well as the design costs. 821 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,320 Um, the project has a planned cost 822 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,760 sharing of 95% federal, two and a half% 823 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,240 state, and two and a half% local, which 824 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:55,040 would come out to be roughly $22,000 to 825 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,560 the city. Um I will note that if state 826 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,960 funding is spent uh meaning that two and 827 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,839 a half% state share uh we will be 828 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:06,720 required to adopt two ordinances before 829 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,800 January 1st 2027 relating to height 830 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680 limitation zoning around the airport as 831 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,720 well as uh vehicle and pedestrian 832 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,359 traffic ordinances as they relate to 833 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:22,720 surfaces of the that would just be for 834 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,510 their two and a half% 835 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,359 adopt those ordinances. We would just be 836 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:38,589 on the hook for that. 837 00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,630 [laughter] 838 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520 » Start lip syncing. 839 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,804 >> All the person lickered. 840 00:35:45,804 --> 00:35:46,640 [laughter] 841 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,160 >> She could be way off those quite the 842 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,640 timing. 843 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,119 >> Be way off base. 844 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,920 it the those two ordinances are like in 845 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,680 the works yet for more discussion. 846 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,720 >> They are we've um briefly brought them 847 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,720 to the attention of municipal services 848 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,640 at our July meeting and then we had 849 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,320 preliminary discussions with the 850 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,079 representative 851 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,000 at our August municipal services 852 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,920 meeting. Our intent is to bring 853 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,400 something back in October um to discuss 854 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,829 it further. 855 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:16,880 President Cwley, 856 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440 >> it was also brought to if I get it wrong 857 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,040 correctly, but I think it was also 858 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000 brought to our attention that 859 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,440 >> with city 860 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880 our decision to enforce 861 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,400 that's uh 862 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640 >> correct. So that that's relative to the 863 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,599 ordinances itself. Um, yeah, the city 864 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,839 would have the the ability to enforce 865 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:42,160 the ordinances obviously much like any 866 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,160 of our other ordinances. 867 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,599 We then also have the ability to modify 868 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,710 the draft language that was 869 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,040 forward 870 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:09,589 over 871 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:10,640 Person Bernander 872 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,950 >> move to approve resolution. 873 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,400 » Other person Dunny. 874 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,280 >> I will uh second that motion. 875 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,880 >> Any further discussion? 876 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,240 Becky, call the roll, please. 877 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,040 >> Donny, 878 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,400 >> hi. 879 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,040 >> Green. 880 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,079 >> Hi. 881 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:28,640 >> Linkert. 882 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,119 >> Hi. 883 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:29,839 >> Trantow. 884 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:32,320 >> Hi. Wetzel. 885 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,040 >> Bernander. 886 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,760 >> Hi. 887 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,320 >> Crawley. 888 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,800 >> I 889 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,040 >> passes. 890 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,880 >> Discussion and possible action contract 891 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,960 award. New Pinery storm sewer. 892 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,880 >> Um so anybody that's lived in Portage 893 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 knows that when it rains we get standing 894 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960 water on New Pinery in front of 895 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,480 Quicktrip. Um we've come up with a plan 896 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520 um to relay some of that standing water 897 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680 that sits in the lowlying curb to an 898 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,800 adjacent watershed. Um essentially we'll 899 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,400 be tying it into some of the existing 900 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,040 storm sewer in the area by adding a curb 901 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,320 inlet. Um we sought proposals from a 902 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400 number of contractors to perform this 903 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,119 work with concrete solutions uh 904 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,359 providing the lowest and only qualified 905 00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:20,150 quote at 22,3. 906 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,800 Um the 2026 capital expenditure plan 907 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440 does have $40,000 budgeted for this and 908 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,839 we are recommending 909 00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,079 approval of this work through concrete 910 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,560 solutions. Um additionally this work 911 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,640 will be done 912 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,839 their work associated property. Um so 913 00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:39,359 they'll be utilizing some of the same 914 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:45,030 traffic control. 915 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Other person Bernander 916 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,400 >> move to approve new pinary storm water 917 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 repairs contract to concrete solutions 918 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,190 $22,3131 919 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,160 personel 920 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,760 >> I'll second it 921 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,310 >> any further discussion 922 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,200 call the roll please 923 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,839 >> green 924 00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:04,800 >> hi 925 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,440 >> linkert 926 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:05,920 >> hi 927 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,640 >> trantow 928 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,040 >> hi 929 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,079 >> wetzel 930 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:08,800 >> hi 931 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,440 >> Bernander 932 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,160 >> hi 933 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,720 >> Cwley 934 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:11,200 >> hi 935 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,839 >> Dunah 936 00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:13,920 >> hi's 937 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,760 discussion and possible action contract 938 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,760 award traffic signal upgrades design 939 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,560 services US highway 51 Hardle and US 940 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,880 Highway 51 state highway 16. 941 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,760 In 2024, we applied for two signal 942 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,800 upgrade projects under the uh Wisconsin 943 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,880 Department of Transportation's SISP 944 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680 grant program. Um we were awarded this 945 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,079 grant uh which includes 90% funding for 946 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,839 full traffic signal upgrades. um no 947 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,839 different than what we're doing at the 948 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:48,640 intersections of Collins and Slifer 949 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,560 Street on New Pinery this year. Um 950 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,359 the two projects that are next up in 951 00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,760 line for that grant cycle are the 952 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,040 intersection of US 51 and Hardle Street 953 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,480 and US 51 and 16 or McFarland and 954 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,680 Wisconsin Street. Um 955 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,240 we sought proposals for design from 956 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,839 traffic analysis and design 957 00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:13,920 incorporated. uh for design services 958 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,560 associated with these projects. Um they 959 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,920 were contracted by the city for in 2024 960 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,000 uh to submit the applications for this 961 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640 grant funding cycle and have performed 962 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,119 for the city past. They provided pricing 963 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,630 of $76,1.50 964 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,359 for both intersections and the capital 965 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:38,310 improvement plan includes $131,000 966 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,839 associated with these 967 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:44,160 program. Um so we essentially pay the 968 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:52,710 full bill and then request reimbursement 969 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,400 green. I make a motion to award 970 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,040 contract design to traffic analysis and 971 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,640 design incorporated in the amount of 972 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,710 $76,154.50 973 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:07,440 person wet. 974 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,280 >> I'll second it. 975 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,599 >> Any further discussion? 976 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:12,800 All person. 977 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960 >> This is just for them to figure out 978 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,599 where the lights go, all of the wiring 979 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,640 and that not installing or sourcing of 980 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,200 new 981 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,079 >> correct. Um I think anticipated cost for 982 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,200 the installations themselves are roughly 983 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440 >> for two stop lights. 984 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,680 >> It's the whole intersection. 985 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,960 So um it would be four four actual 986 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,079 apparatuses 987 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:41,040 >> two intersections 988 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:49,349 >> in the wrong business. [laughter] 989 00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:51,440 First and second. Any further 990 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,760 discussion? 991 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,440 Becky, call please. 992 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,160 >> Linkert. 993 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,960 >> Hi. 994 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,560 >> Fantau. 995 00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,839 >> Wutzel. 996 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:00,720 >> Bernander. 997 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,200 >> Hi. 998 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,920 >> Cwley. 999 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,400 >> I. 1000 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,040 >> Dunny. 1001 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,599 >> I. 1002 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:04,000 >> Green. 1003 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,560 >> Hi. 1004 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,480 >> Passes. 1005 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,240 Discussion and possible action contract 1006 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,960 award. Well, six VFD replacement. 1007 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Um so earlier this year we had a 1008 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,400 variable frequency drive or VFD um at 1009 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,160 one of our wells go down due to 1010 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,119 overheating. Um these VFDs control and 1011 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,440 regulate pump operations in attempt to 1012 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,599 ensure significant tear does not take 1013 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:31,440 place on processes. Uh we were able to 1014 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,960 reset that VFD. Um but h however in 1015 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,319 order cooling of the unit had to add 1016 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:42,560 some secondary equipment. um 1017 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,200 plethora of fans blowing on it. 1018 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,720 Unfortunately, 1019 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,440 um this existing VFD is approximately 15 1020 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,200 plus years old and needs more. Um we did 1021 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,440 receive quotes on this with municipal 1022 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,319 well and pump out of rep providing the 1023 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:02,720 lowest qualified quote in the amount of 1024 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,720 um this project would be funding funded 1025 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,119 through our six operational budget 1026 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,040 though this project was not specifically 1027 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,710 budgeted. uh funds are available. 1028 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:15,599 » Person Greens 1029 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,440 >> make a motion to award the contract to 1030 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,680 municipal well and pump in the amount of 1031 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,829 17,9 $17,90. 1032 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:24,079 All 1033 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:24,960 >> person Tranto 1034 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,560 >> second. 1035 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,319 >> Any further discussion? 1036 00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:31,680 >> Becky call please. 1037 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,480 >> Tranto. 1038 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,119 >> Hi. 1039 00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:33,760 >> Wetzel. 1040 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,480 >> Hi 1041 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,119 >> Fernander. 1042 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:35,680 >> Hi 1043 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,319 >> Cwley. 1044 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:36,800 >> Hi 1045 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,440 >> Danahe. 1046 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,079 >> Hi 1047 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:38,720 >> Green. 1048 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,160 >> Hi Flinkard 1049 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,829 >> I 1050 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:45,520 » appointment by the mayor confirmed by 1051 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,760 council vote park and recreation board 1052 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,839 school representative at large Terara 1053 00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:52,319 Syler to complete the three-year term 1054 00:43:52,319 --> 00:44:10,150 ending 4:30 2028 1055 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,880 person link. 1056 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,319 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 1057 00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:13,839 appointment. All 1058 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:14,560 >> person. 1059 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,000 >> I will second. 1060 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,480 >> Any further discussion? 1061 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,839 >> Becky, color roll, please. 1062 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:20,640 >> Wetzel. 1063 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,200 >> Hi. 1064 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,920 >> Bernander. 1065 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,480 >> Hi. 1066 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,040 >> Cwley. 1067 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,680 >> Hi. 1068 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,319 >> Dun. 1069 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:24,880 >> Hi. 1070 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,359 >> Green. 1071 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:26,000 >> Hi. 1072 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,720 >> Slinkert. 1073 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:27,200 >> Hi. 1074 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,839 >> Tranto. 1075 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:28,319 >> Hi. 1076 00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:32,630 >> Passes. 1077 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,000 discussion and possible action 1078 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,839 reconsideration of operator license 1079 00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:38,400 application for Rebecca Crier. So if you 1080 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,920 remember this was recommended for 1081 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,920 denial. Uh so a letter went to Rebecca 1082 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,200 and she has the chance to come and um 1083 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,839 give her side and you can choose to 1084 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:50,079 overturn the denial or to uphold the 1085 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:57,349 denial. 1086 00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:00,079 » Hi my name is Rebecca Crier. Um, I've 1087 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,560 never done something like this, but I 1088 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640 applied for my bartender's license. I am 1089 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,720 currently the general manager of 1873 1090 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,400 Bar and Grill, Neil's Wine House, and 1091 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,359 the 1873 Bar and Grill food trailer. Um, 1092 00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:13,760 I work roughly 60hour weeks. I am there 1093 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,680 all the time, open to close, especially 1094 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,839 on weekends and busy days or when we 1095 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:20,880 have events. Um, I hold the food manager 1096 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,280 um, certificate for all the places. I do 1097 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,880 all the scheduling. I do everything 1098 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,880 there. I applied for my bartender's 1099 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040 license, not to make cash tips or to be 1100 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,720 the bartender so that I could hold the 1101 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,880 license so I could train new people, get 1102 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,720 new people in and working and save on 1103 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,359 payroll costs so that we don't have five 1104 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:38,880 people in the building. Me training 1105 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,480 someone holding the license and the new 1106 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,000 person working. I just wanted to hold 1107 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,319 the license so I could train them. Um, I 1108 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:47,440 wouldn't actually be bartending. I have 1109 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,520 a letter of recommendation from my 1110 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,200 employer. I don't know if you guys would 1111 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,920 like to read. I have two copies I could 1112 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,800 pass around or if you want me to read 1113 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,280 it, I could. I don't necessarily like 1114 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,800 speaking in front of all of you guys, 1115 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,359 but I would. Um, 1116 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:04,480 yeah, I'm just asking for 1117 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,720 reconsideration. Um, in my letter, I was 1118 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,640 denied from two or more drug or alcohol 1119 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,480 convictions in the last 5 years. My 1120 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,920 convictions are from September of 2023. 1121 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,560 However, my charges were April, the most 1122 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,440 recent one was April 6th of 2022. I had 1123 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,520 a very premature baby after that who was 1124 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,760 in the NICU and my court dates kept 1125 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,440 getting pushed back and that's why I was 1126 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,680 convicted so late. It's been almost five 1127 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,680 years since I've been in trouble. I'm in 1128 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,280 compliance with all of my AODA 1129 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,160 treatment, my probation and parole. Um I 1130 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,119 could pass UA at any time. I I don't 1131 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,079 drink. I don't do drugs. I I work and I 1132 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,319 go home to my baby. I just want to hold 1133 00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,240 that license so I can train staff and 1134 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,640 save on our payroll. 1135 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,640 Um, I don't really have anything else to 1136 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,800 say. Do you guys want to read the letter 1137 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,720 from my employer? 1138 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,000 >> All right. 1139 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:09,030 >> Pass it around. 1140 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:14,560 » Slinker. So my concern is that um like 1141 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,640 if I understand you don't plan to be 1142 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,000 bartending but there's not a 1143 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,400 differentiation in the license. 1144 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,359 So like 1145 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:22,800 >> I would hold the license so that 1146 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,560 somebody there when we hire new people 1147 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,480 who don't have it they could work under 1148 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,200 my license. 1149 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,720 >> I understand but there's nothing that 1150 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,560 like if we give this to you then there's 1151 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,760 my understanding is there's nothing that 1152 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,760 stops you from doing that. So I know 1153 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,839 that's not your intent but we don't have 1154 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:39,680 a like trainer license. Correct. You're 1155 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,400 correct, Amy. 1156 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,200 >> So, so that that's my struggle with it 1157 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,040 is like 1158 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,800 it's 1159 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,000 if we start making exceptions 1160 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880 like we don't have the ability to stop 1161 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,400 that because we already gave you 1162 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,079 permission. So, you could decide in a 1163 00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,839 week or a month or a year that you want 1164 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:01,680 to do it and then you 1165 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,520 >> Well, I'm a salary paid employee. They 1166 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,079 don't allow me to make cash tips or work 1167 00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:07,599 like that. But I mean, I understand I 1168 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,520 could take it some somewhere else, but 1169 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,200 that's 1170 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,430 not the intent. 1171 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,240 » Person Green. 1172 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,599 >> And that's my struggle with our our 1173 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,559 liquor license as we hold it here. Um, 1174 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,720 and I think it changed in the recent 1175 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,480 time statewide is that you could take 1176 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040 the license even though not doing cash 1177 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,640 tips, 1178 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,359 you can go and work for another bar. Not 1179 00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:36,880 that you want to because you're working 1180 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,839 60 hours, but you could 1181 00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,400 or you could leave your employer in a 1182 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,079 week and go work someplace else. Nothing 1183 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:48,880 stopping us from doing citywide, not 1184 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,760 just 1185 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,839 >> I understand. I just wanted to make the 1186 00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:57,910 attempt. 1187 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,640 » President Crowley, 1188 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,280 >> I've had my own regrets in the past and 1189 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,640 changed things. Uh, don't make me regret 1190 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,960 this. I make a motion to approve her 1191 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,960 liquor license. 1192 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,400 >> The person wet. 1193 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,630 >> Second it. 1194 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,680 » All the person Bernander. 1195 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,119 >> I think I'll I'll vote with um but yeah, 1196 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:22,400 just don't don't screw up. 1197 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,960 >> I won't. 1198 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,200 >> Okay. 1199 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,079 >> I won't. I promise I won't. 1200 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,839 >> We've been we've been burnt in the 1201 00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:30,160 recent past on it. 1202 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,359 You guys are making me cry and I don't 1203 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:32,424 even know half of you. Close to 1204 00:49:32,424 --> 00:49:34,640 [laughter] you. Almost all of you. 1205 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,440 >> Okay. 1206 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,000 >> Thank you. 1207 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,880 >> Other 1208 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,800 uh other questions. 1209 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,400 All right. Becky, call the role. 1210 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,280 >> Bernander. 1211 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,319 >> Hi. 1212 00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:50,800 >> Rwley. 1213 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,599 >> Hi. 1214 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,240 >> Dun. I 1215 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,390 >> Green. 1216 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,430 » Hi. 1217 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,079 Blinkert. 1218 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,559 >> No, 1219 00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,829 >> I 1220 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:13,190 » passes. Thank you guys. 1221 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:19,510 » No, you're good. Thank you. You're good. 1222 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,119 » Discussion and possible action 1223 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,119 reconsideration of operator license 1224 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:30,549 application for Shaya Krebs. 1225 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,920 Hi, my name is Shaya Cubs. Um, so I also 1226 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,119 work at 1873. 1227 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,880 Um, it's just me and my son. I'm I take 1228 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,800 a pay cut when I don't have my liquor 1229 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400 license. Um, I filled what I did wrong 1230 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,599 is I put I was assuming from Wisconsin. 1231 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,559 I had no felonies. Um, I have one felony 1232 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,599 from three years ago in Florida and I 1233 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,160 have one. Now, my cases they're um 1234 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,240 concluded and I just have a it is a 1235 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,240 felony, but it's a bail jumping. No drug 1236 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:08,160 charges, no anything like that. Um 1237 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,000 so once I get my liquor license, I can 1238 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,480 pay raise and then I can my son better. 1239 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,520 Um just asking to reconsider. I've 1240 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,079 really turned my life around um when 1241 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,000 everything I'm supposed to. on 1242 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000 probation, but I'm complying with that. 1243 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,760 I've never had any um 1244 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:46,150 anything like that. 1245 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,240 » Um I understand and appreciate you 1246 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,720 coming. Um, but I'm in the same boat 1247 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,079 where the rules are the rules. We have 1248 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,559 reasons and rules 1249 00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:59,119 to I understand the issue with the 1250 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,400 paperwork, but a felony from 23 in 1251 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,559 Florida. Um, and another pending for 1252 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,359 maintaining drug trafficking. Um, 1253 00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:11,760 >> that's all concluded. I I was not found 1254 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,160 guilty of that. I just Yeah. So, I just 1255 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,400 have the bail jumping. Okay. Yeah, 1256 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,839 that's 1257 00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:20,160 >> okay. 1258 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,000 Still, I appreciate that you've gotten 1259 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,920 your life turned around, but I take 1260 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,559 bartender licenses and being in that 1261 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,720 position of having the ability to make 1262 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,160 good choices for the rest of our 1263 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,870 citizens. Very important. 1264 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,359 » Person Bernander, 1265 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:42,079 >> so you said you're on probation. 1266 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,480 This that's for the methamphetamine and 1267 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,839 the drug paraphernalia. 1268 00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:48,240 >> No, that that was from Florida. 1269 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,359 That's That was 1270 00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:52,240 >> When was that? 1271 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,880 >> 2023 with methamphetamine in Florida. 1272 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,200 >> Yeah, that was Yeah. 1273 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:03,349 >> That pretty hard drug. 1274 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:05,760 » Yeah. 1275 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:18,870 Be kind of a difficult decision. 1276 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,160 person green. 1277 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,440 >> I think this one's a little more 1278 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,910 difficult for me because 1279 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,870 previous 1280 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,670 » Yeah. 2026. 1281 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,960 » Um, 1282 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,079 >> but I wasn't found guilty. 1283 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,400 >> It's that wasn't was updated. My case 1284 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:53,510 was concluded the beginning of August. 1285 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,710 I just looked at uh 1286 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:07,829 that key charge was read in 1287 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:10,640 may be able to explain 1288 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:25,589 I 1289 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:33,109 does say charge dismissed but read in 1290 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:37,990 drug trafficking please 1291 00:54:38,000 --> 00:55:24,309 jumping 1292 00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:25,280 All the person here. 1293 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,760 >> Can I ask what the probation is for? 1294 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,119 Which which offense? 1295 00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:30,880 >> Felony bail jumping. 1296 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,960 >> And how long is the probation for? 1297 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:38,470 >> Years. 1298 00:55:38,480 --> 00:56:00,150 » And how long are you into this now? 1299 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,359 I carry a bartender's license and I 1300 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:06,240 guess if 1301 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,640 Mr. Green said that if you were like a 1302 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:15,990 couple years outside of the probation, 1303 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000 » I could understand. But when you're just 1304 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,950 right into starting the probation, 1305 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,720 » I don't I don't I wouldn't recommend. 1306 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,280 And again and again my my problem again 1307 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:40,309 is that 1308 00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:46,390 I 1309 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,880 Green. 1310 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,200 >> I make a motion to deny this 1311 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,789 application. 1312 00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:55,839 » Do we need to? 1313 00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:03,109 >> Yes, a motion is needed 1314 00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:04,720 » for the same reasons from the initial 1315 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:09,589 denial. 1316 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,240 » Bernander second. 1317 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,069 >> Any further discussion? 1318 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:17,040 Becky, color roll, please. 1319 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,599 >> We're voting to deny her appeal. 1320 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:22,000 >> Correct. 1321 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,280 >> Becky, color roll, please. 1322 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,839 >> Ryley, 1323 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:25,520 >> I 1324 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,160 >> Dan. 1325 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,200 >> Hi, 1326 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,839 >> Green. 1327 00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,280 >> Hi, 1328 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:29,920 >> Linkert. 1329 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,880 >> Hi, 1330 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,599 >> Tranto. 1331 00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:32,480 >> Hi, 1332 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,119 >> Wel 1333 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,870 Bernander. 1334 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,270 » Thank you. 1335 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,440 discussion and possible action. Change 1336 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,680 normal meeting date of Tuesday, November 1337 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,280 2020 20 sorry, November 24th, 2026 to 1338 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,960 Monday, November 23rd, 2026. 1339 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,920 This is for budget passing the week of 1340 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,030 Thanksgiving. 1341 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,119 » Person Berner, I'll move to approve the 1342 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,680 change of date. 1343 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:06,000 Hello, 1344 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,319 >> personel. 1345 00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:11,359 Any further discussion? 1346 00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:12,160 Changing. 1347 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,119 >> Call the roll, please. 1348 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:14,160 >> Donny, 1349 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:14,960 >> hi. 1350 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,599 >> Green. 1351 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:16,400 >> Hi. 1352 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:16,960 >> Slinkert. 1353 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,520 >> Hi. 1354 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,240 >> Trantow. 1355 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,720 >> Hi. 1356 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,440 >> Wetszel. 1357 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:19,839 >> Hi. 1358 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:20,480 >> Bernander. 1359 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,119 >> Hi. 1360 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:21,599 >> Cwley. 1361 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:22,160 >> Hi. 1362 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,240 >> Passes. So, put that on your calendar, 1363 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,150 please. 1364 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,160 » Uh, department head reports. Q&A with 1365 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:52,309 department heads. 1366 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:53,359 I'll ask a question. 1367 00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:54,319 >> Yes. 1368 00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:55,839 >> Prove I did my homework. 1369 00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:58,079 >> Um I have a question on the you have 1370 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:01,040 shifts A 1371 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,559 are those what what kind of shifts are 1372 00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:04,480 they working? Are they like out like 1373 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:11,910 second third or is it 1374 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,880 just three cohorts? 1375 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,319 Okay, 1376 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:24,789 >> I was trying to correlate some things. 1377 00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:26,079 » Other questions for our department 1378 00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:31,190 heads? 1379 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,040 » I was going to ask one otherwise. Uh I 1380 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,640 was going to ask Debbie. Uh so I know 1381 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,240 that we have the our big read book 1382 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,760 coming up with uh the America's 250th 1383 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,079 Women in the Revolutionary War. Do we 1384 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:43,280 know how many people have signed up for 1385 00:59:43,280 --> 01:00:13,109 that and like what the usual numbers for that is 1386 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:37,349 Other 1387 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:46,309 questions? 1388 01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:48,559 discussion common council and committee 1389 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,960 process. 1390 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,280 >> Everyone, I'll jump on here to kick off 1391 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,200 the conversation. 1392 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,119 Um, for the last couple years, the 1393 01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:59,359 common council has had a temporary 1394 01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:01,040 resolution governing how the standing 1395 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680 committee common council process works. 1396 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,920 Uh the prior resolution that was in 1397 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,520 place um uh created a council kind of 1398 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,760 driven process. Two meetings per month, 1399 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,640 items started at the council um unless 1400 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,960 otherwise required by an ordinance or 1401 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,960 others um statute and then um discussion 1402 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,720 and action could take place at the 1403 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,200 council level um through the process. On 1404 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,640 the memo tried to make a little bit of a 1405 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,599 flowchart that kind of outlaid a process 1406 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:33,359 an item would follow. Uh then earlier 1407 01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:35,920 this year um cuz that resolution 1408 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,839 expired, we had a conversation about it 1409 01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:41,920 and adopted a new one that um took the 1410 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,760 very similar type approach the end of 1411 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,480 the day and has one council meeting per 1412 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,200 month versus two. Originally we had a 1413 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,520 discussion about general items like this 1414 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,200 on the front end. We've moved to the 1415 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,359 back of the agenda and some other items 1416 01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:58,000 around. So now it's one agenda packet 1417 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,960 and items start the council discussion 1418 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,119 and action unless otherwise referred to 1419 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,799 committee then ultimately come back to 1420 01:02:04,799 --> 01:02:07,280 the council. So we're here tonight 1421 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,440 because this um resolution was temporary 1422 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,720 last six months which is October. So 1423 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,400 check in and see how you like this 1424 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,440 process um and what direction you may 1425 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,119 have for staff as we work to bring back 1426 01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,000 something for October to help navigate 1427 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,079 what comes forward from staff's 1428 01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:26,240 perspective. are happy to work any way 1429 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,960 you guys wish. Um the one meeting a 1430 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,200 month does give us a substantial 1431 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,960 administrative 1432 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,920 savings in terms of time in a given 1433 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,880 packing week takes about a half or 50% 1434 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,200 of someone's time to prep and push a 1435 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,520 council packet out. So um for us it is a 1436 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,119 time saving allows you to work on other 1437 01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:49,040 items that we bring forward. But if you 1438 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,640 guys wish to go back to two meetings or 1439 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,400 a different structure, happy to take 1440 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,839 your feedback um and bring it forward in 1441 01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:03,190 October. 1442 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,000 » Person Cwley, 1443 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,160 >> I don't like changing things back and 1444 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,839 forth. I'm fine keeping it the way it 1445 01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:12,390 is. [laughter] 1446 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,599 » Want to go back? I don't want to change 1447 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:15,113 it. [cough] 1448 01:03:15,113 --> 01:03:17,349 [clears throat] 1449 01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:19,039 Other thing to point out this resolution 1450 01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:20,799 does did it combine finance, 1451 01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:22,400 administration and personnel into one 1452 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,799 committee or HR into one committee. Um 1453 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:31,670 so that's a part of it as well. 1454 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,720 » Um I think that we ask you guys to do a 1455 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,400 lot with a little um and if having one 1456 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,480 meeting helps alleviate burden and we 1457 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,359 can get everything done in one 1458 01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,160 I like it. I also get more done because 1459 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,400 I prepare once for what we're going to 1460 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,480 talk about rather than multiple times a 1461 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,270 month. I like it. 1462 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,400 » Well, person Bernander, 1463 01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,920 >> I feel like we're losing a little bit of 1464 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,280 touch with the department heads by a 1465 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,400 month, but I understand 1466 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,950 the the struggle the balance here. 1467 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,280 I guess that's my feedback. 1468 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,960 I guess my my question when you say that 1469 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,640 we we lose like touch with department 1470 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,920 heads, do you mean like we have less 1471 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,760 time to question them or like just that 1472 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,599 we don't see them as often or like I 1473 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:23,359 guess what do you mean by that? 1474 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:27,430 >> Yeah, I miss them. No, [laughter] 1475 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,839 » no, I it's it's you know things do come 1476 01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:32,960 up and need timely answers and so I 1477 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,799 think that's another part that we're 1478 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:36,319 missing. 1479 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:39,440 Quick feedback, but 1480 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,799 I don't know. Not that you're going to 1481 01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:44,000 go, you know, rogue or anything, do 1482 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,119 anything crazy while we're gone for 30 1483 01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:50,559 days out of 31, but 1484 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,200 I do feel like having more contact 1485 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,119 creates better rapport and uh better 1486 01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,839 check-ins. But I understand building 1487 01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:04,789 packet is the time. 1488 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:07,280 It's a a resource 1489 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,950 losing out on 1490 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,960 the resolution though or the way we're 1491 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,960 operating does allow like if something 1492 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,880 did need to get discussed even and I 1493 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,760 think that's I think we're all open to 1494 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,280 if we need to have a meeting next week 1495 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,720 or we need to have a meeting the week 1496 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,039 like if we need a meeting like we should 1497 01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,359 have a meeting but I don't like the idea 1498 01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:30,960 of having two on the calendar just for 1499 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,480 the sake of having two on the calendar 1500 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,960 either right so it's like do we have one 1501 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,200 on knowing we could have another like 1502 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,160 more impromptu one versus scheduling two 1503 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:47,029 when we really only needed one. 1504 01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,280 The good thing is it's temporary. So 1505 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,000 let's say something big happened or 1506 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,520 somebody new came on, 1507 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,680 I don't know, you just never know. So 1508 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,559 it's good to have 1509 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,480 in case 1510 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,400 we all start to disagree with somebody 1511 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,950 or something. [laughter] 1512 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,200 I mean, we all pay taxes and everybody's 1513 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,359 big complaint in the in the community is 1514 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:14,240 we pay too much taxes 1515 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,000 and you guys have very little to work 1516 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,400 with. [laughter] 1517 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,359 I don't know. We're supposed to 1518 01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:22,480 represent those people who are paying. 1519 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,309 We should have 1520 01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:30,309 connection. 1521 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:32,799 I'm doing a nice segment video segment 1522 01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,799 coming up for the budget on where 1523 01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:37,599 exactly tax money is going because that 1524 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:38,799 way when people say we're spending too 1525 01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:41,200 much on this like well here's how many 1526 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,799 dollars going to police here's how many 1527 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:44,160 are going to fire here's how many are 1528 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,920 going to public works and parks so that 1529 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,319 way like well if if we were to remove 1530 01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:50,799 this you'd lose like garbage if we 1531 01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:52,720 remove this you'd lose whatever so that 1532 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,880 way people can see exactly where 1533 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,200 everything's going 1534 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,880 like a lot of people don't realize that 1535 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,240 they they think it's all going somewhere 1536 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,880 a lot of people Becky if I'm wrong let 1537 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,079 me But I don't think a lot of people 1538 01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:08,160 come and request copies of our budget to 1539 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,559 look through. So [laughter] 1540 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,319 >> that'd be true. That'd be true. [cough] 1541 01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:14,079 >> So I just figure like 1542 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,000 >> it's on the website. They might It is 1543 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,319 right. 1544 01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:18,559 >> They might. 1545 01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:22,710 >> Fortunately, it's not. 1546 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,880 » So what I can do going into next month 1547 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,160 is I can work to bring forward um an 1548 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,039 ordinance that that governs this and at 1549 01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:32,559 any time the council can bring it back 1550 01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,720 to an agenda. can amend it in the 1551 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,079 future. Um, I think our city attorney 1552 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,480 would want us to work our way out from a 1553 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,319 temporary resolution to have something 1554 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:44,240 just that's in place, but there's 1555 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,680 nothing to say an older person or the 1556 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,680 mayor can't call it back in a future 1557 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:53,029 meeting and have changes made. 1558 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:57,599 » I mean, it's it's to have something 1559 01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:01,109 temporary resolution. 1560 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:07,990 So I think it seems to me that 1561 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:14,230 working well 1562 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,239 » sure I can bring attempt to extend it 1563 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:25,910 and then later this year we can 1564 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,080 next or meeting. Okay, 1565 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080 got it. 1566 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,759 Sounds good to me. 1567 01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:37,359 >> Else I got what I need. Thank you 1568 01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,000 everyone. 1569 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,920 >> Discussion electronic mobility devices. 1570 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,520 >> Hey. Um, so Justin, I think I emailed. 1571 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,839 >> Perfect. So, I just wanted to touch base 1572 01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:52,400 with you guys because, uh, ebikes. So, 1573 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,279 that's a thing. Um, that's what I'll say 1574 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,880 right now. When when Justin and uh Sam 1575 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,480 and I were at the chief's executive 1576 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:02,080 conference, there was quite a bit of 1577 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,159 debate about this. Uh I don't know if 1578 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,239 you guys saw the latest edition from the 1579 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:08,560 municipality, but there was a segment in 1580 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,679 there about ebikes. And I know that some 1581 01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:13,440 people have brought up different things. 1582 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:15,359 And so I have kind of talked a little 1583 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,679 bit to um administration. I've talked a 1584 01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:20,480 little bit uh to you know, Chief Klafky 1585 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:21,839 a little bit about, you know, his 1586 01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:23,920 thoughts on it. And so I kind of wanted 1587 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,799 to very briefly line out like what 1588 01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:28,960 options we do have versus what options 1589 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,440 we don't have and see kind of where you 1590 01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:32,799 want to go from there and that way we 1591 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:35,520 can get Chief Hassi and um Chief 1592 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,159 Klafky's kind of input right here. So 1593 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:41,199 one of the things that the league was 1594 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:42,640 telling us that we should try to stay 1595 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,960 away from is anything where you're just 1596 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,319 saying nope we're not going to allow 1597 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,719 these just ban them. Right? So they've 1598 01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:51,520 advised us like there's regulations here 1599 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,600 in state statutes. So don't try to sit 1600 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,679 and prohibit and certain things here. Um 1601 01:09:57,679 --> 01:09:59,199 and then trying to create age 1602 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,920 requirements. They they've also told us 1603 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,800 to not go for that. That also creates a 1604 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,640 issue for police because if you're 1605 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,840 seeing somebody riding an ebike like are 1606 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,640 they 15, are they 17 like that if you 1607 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,400 try to throw an age number on that that 1608 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,199 becomes kind of a nightmare to enforce. 1609 01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:19,199 um if you're driving by there and then 1610 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:21,520 trying to license some of these ebikes, 1611 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,960 they've also kind of steered us away 1612 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,480 from that um because with some of these 1613 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:30,719 regulations that are in the state code 1614 01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:32,719 um those might get challenged in court 1615 01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:34,080 and might not hold up. So they've 1616 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,280 generally recommended uh we avoid those 1617 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,880 options there on the right. So that's 1618 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,080 their guidance for us. Um, one of the 1619 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,679 things that we have seen other 1620 01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:50,320 municipalities do that are totally 1621 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,880 okay that have worked. So up like Nino 1622 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,800 Manasha up in the Fox Valley, a lot of 1623 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,440 um those cities have banned things like 1624 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,440 stunt driving, trick driving, towing 1625 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,000 riders, things like that. So anything 1626 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,640 where you're trying to have unsafe 1627 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,800 riding and they have their definitions 1628 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,760 for that, that's something that is okay. 1629 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,520 We also have the power to decide where 1630 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,320 we want these. So we can say they need 1631 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,640 to operate in the roadway. We can say 1632 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,360 they need to be on the sidewalk. Uh we 1633 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,520 can say they can be in park trails or 1634 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,159 they can't be in park trails. So we have 1635 01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:27,840 options on where we would like to see 1636 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,800 these. Um we could require helmets. Um 1637 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,320 if you're riding one of these, that is 1638 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,040 an option. Um I know that that can be 1639 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,800 problematic. Um, if somebody repeatedly 1640 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,520 violates, we we could look at a possible 1641 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,400 impound. Obviously, I'd like to defer to 1642 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,640 kind of Chief Klafky's um thoughts on 1643 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,360 that. If we have someone repeatedly 1644 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,000 violating um something like that, then 1645 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,040 we could look at at that. But, um I I 1646 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,400 just figured I'd bring this up so that 1647 01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,760 we could have a full council 1648 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,159 conversation. we get input from police 1649 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:04,560 and fire chiefs on kind of what they 1650 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,640 think because some of this enforcement 1651 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,960 might be difficult or you know in terms 1652 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,440 of like EMS related stuff. I know that a 1653 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,280 lot of mayors in the Milwaukee area have 1654 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,719 good relationships with Children's 1655 01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:16,880 Hospital and there's just been a 1656 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,560 insanely 1657 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,560 rapid rise in the amount of injuries 1658 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,520 Children's is seeing because of ebikes. 1659 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,040 Um, and I think it's also important to 1660 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,440 note too that 1661 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,199 there's limits to, you know, government 1662 01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:31,679 action, too, because a lot of, you know, 1663 01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:33,120 kids and a lot of people that work on 1664 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,640 these, they can do modifications to 1665 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,120 these things to make them go faster. Um, 1666 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,960 so we we do have options. That's not, 1667 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,400 you know, going to be everything, of 1668 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,719 course, but I wanted to just kind of 1669 01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:47,120 have this conversation. I've had a few 1670 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,640 residents that have reached out to me. I 1671 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,320 know a few of you guys have also reached 1672 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,400 out to me with some ideas. There's some 1673 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,080 good ordinances from like the village of 1674 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,159 Weston, from uh, you know, Manasha and 1675 01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:58,159 Nenina that that have some of these. So, 1676 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,239 there's different options. Um, and I 1677 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,640 just kind of wanted to kind of give you 1678 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,080 guys the opportunity. What have you 1679 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,920 heard? What things would you like to 1680 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,239 see? And then questions for the chiefs 1681 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:16,229 if they wanted to get their input. Um 1682 01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:17,679 other person done he 1683 01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:21,679 >> you know that they uh are at the skate 1684 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:26,550 park with some of them 1685 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:34,709 » look into signage skate 1686 01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:37,199 they're not a skateboard so I've seen 1687 01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:39,679 him riding around on the skate park um 1688 01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:42,880 and also on the splash pad in that area. 1689 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,280 And I just if we can look into signage 1690 01:13:45,280 --> 01:14:04,390 that they know that they can't use 1691 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:19,750 regular bikes are not allowed. 1692 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,800 other slicker. 1693 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,880 >> And so are we specifically only talking 1694 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,880 about actual ebikes right now or are we 1695 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,120 talking about all things E? 1696 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,120 >> I [laughter] think I I think I think 1697 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,560 before that I just kind of wanted to get 1698 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,320 a temperature before because it we could 1699 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,840 if we go down a rabbit hole of well 1700 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,560 which E do we want to talk about? Like I 1701 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,880 think we should first like take a look 1702 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,920 at what options do we kind of prefer. 1703 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,920 >> So we're talking about ebikes, the ones 1704 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,600 with pedals, classes one, two, and three 1705 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,920 that the state has already defined for 1706 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,280 us and these are our limits. So in my 1707 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,120 mind, the only one that we should 1708 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,199 probably worry about is number two, 1709 01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,760 which goes to like where they can be, 1710 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,760 but that should be consistent with where 1711 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,600 bicycles can be. um is my understanding 1712 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,120 from what I've read. 1713 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:06,400 >> Well, the person Bernander, 1714 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,360 >> I'd like two maybe three things. One, 1715 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,600 when I walk my dog early in the morning, 1716 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,280 there's one that whizzes by me, got no 1717 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,960 lights on, so I think they should have 1718 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,640 lights on when it's dark out. And two, I 1719 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,159 don't want them on the trails because 1720 01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:22,320 they go super fast and my dog's going to 1721 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,199 get run over by it 1722 01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:26,640 and she's stupid, so it's going to 1723 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,640 happen. [laughter] 1724 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,239 >> But wouldn't that be the same thing for 1725 01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,880 bikes? themsel like the lights would be 1726 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,199 right. 1727 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,280 >> They go 30 miles an hour on the path 1728 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,520 though. I mean, and they're silent. So, 1729 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,880 there's no warning when they're behind 1730 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,280 you. Unlike a bicycle that's maybe going 1731 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,280 12, 15 miles an hour. This thing's going 1732 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,640 twice as fast with no light and my dog Barks. 1733 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,640 >> I have a litany of things. 1734 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,080 >> Um, [laughter] 1735 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,320 >> so, so Fondelac and Westbend. Um, if you 1736 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,920 haven't seen, I think I sent you 1737 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,600 Westbends. It's really good. Um, no 1738 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,880 passengers. No passengers. No passengers on bikes, 1739 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,960 scooters, anything. No passengers. It's 1740 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,600 built for one. It gets one. Done. No 1741 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:10,960 passengers. That's going to stop kids 1742 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,360 getting hurt. The second thing, they 1743 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,760 take your bike. In Westben, is it 1744 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,600 Westbend or Fondelac? If you're in 1745 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,000 violation and you're a child, they take 1746 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,080 your bike and a guardian has to get it. 1747 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,840 It's it's a oneandone, at least 1748 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,960 according to their ordinance. Um, I 1749 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,360 think helmet requirements 1750 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,199 would do a lot just to keep kids off of 1751 01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:32,480 them because helmets aren't cool if 1752 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,960 you're a kid. Um, I think helmets under 1753 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,719 16 should be mandatory. Um, if that can 1754 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:41,760 happen. Um, but that falls against the 1755 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,560 sort of age requirements thing. Um, as 1756 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,800 far as where they can and can't ride. I 1757 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,719 get to see downtown every day. I don't 1758 01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:50,960 think there should be any ridden bicycle 1759 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,840 traffic, motorized or otherwise, between 1760 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,760 um Lock Street and Adams and Conan and 1761 01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,920 um 1762 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,000 I guess it would be Cook. I think it 1763 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,880 should be walking in that area. In the 1764 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,360 downtown area, no riding your bicycle in 1765 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,280 any way. 1766 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,709 >> Is that 1767 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:13,199 » Yeah, 1768 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:16,239 >> in the bid district there's no bikes. 1769 01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:16,960 Well, 1770 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,800 >> well, 1771 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,159 are there signs up the 1772 01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:21,199 >> No, 1773 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,199 >> I'm just because I see a lot of people 1774 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:24,640 doing it. A lot of lot of kids, 1775 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,400 especially this time of year. Uh, 1776 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,590 emotos. 1777 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,400 » We're talking about just 1778 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,280 >> they can't run. Well, okay. Well, I'm on 1779 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,560 it. Um, but the helmets, uh, no 1780 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,840 passengers. I think, uh, if you're 1781 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,159 operating under pedal power, um, 1782 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:43,920 sidewalk and trails is okay. That's my 1783 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,600 opinion. If you're operating under pedal 1784 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,320 power, if you're on throttle or a or if 1785 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,239 you're on throttle, you've got to be on 1786 01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:52,480 the road. So, for example, if an officer 1787 01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,080 was driving and they saw somebody going 1788 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,840 up, maybe under the train tracks and 1789 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,280 they were on the sidewalk without moving 1790 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:02,149 their legs. 1791 01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:05,040 Um, so pedal power gets you on the 1792 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,640 sidewalks. If you're going to do 1793 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:07,760 anything else, you got to be on the 1794 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,280 street, but it's still got to be legal. 1795 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,159 and deferring to the other laws. You're 1796 01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:13,840 supposed to have a b a light on your 1797 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,719 bicycle anyway. That's just a that's 1798 01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:19,120 already a thing. So that's 1799 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,040 >> Yeah. Well, and you'd think the ebike 1800 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,440 would just have like a USB is it's just 1801 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:25,840 there. 1802 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,440 >> Yeah, 1803 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:29,679 >> um 1804 01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:31,600 >> can't take a picture, 1805 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,440 >> of course. Yeah, banning the stunt 1806 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:35,199 driving and all of that. But yeah, those 1807 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:37,920 are my my things. 1808 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,960 All person 1809 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,640 >> I like the idea like how we have the 1810 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,480 semis they need to follow a route that 1811 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:45,120 is yellow posts. I think we should do 1812 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,000 that to the bikes. Need to have a route 1813 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,320 mapped around town 1814 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,679 off the city streets, follow the street 1815 01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:55,840 rules. And 1816 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,480 >> I I guess my my question I think to 1817 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:04,320 Chief Klafky would be because I think my curiosity is how easy some of that 1818 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,679 would be doing a force because my 1819 01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,679 concern is cuz like I have to teach 1820 01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:09,679 teenagers all day and that's hard enough 1821 01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:13,040 but trying to get them to like because 1822 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,440 if we start having well you can ride 1823 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:17,520 this on the sidewalks here here and here 1824 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,120 but you can't do it there there and 1825 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,040 there I think that becomes kind of a 1826 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,159 nightmare to try to help people 1827 01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:26,320 understand where I it might be easier if 1828 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,400 it's like it's all or nothing, right? 1829 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,920 Like we're either putting them on the 1830 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,000 sidewalks, 1831 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,840 you know, here and that's it because if 1832 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,520 the more that you try to make exceptions 1833 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,120 or say, well, here they can't hear the worse that's going to be, I think, 1834 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,760 for everybody. Um, so I guess 1835 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,679 that's kind of what what I'm looking at. 1836 01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:48,800 >> Well, I don't think the route would 1837 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,480 work. So the reason a semi route works 1838 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,000 is because they're passing through our 1839 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,080 city. So I don't know how you would 1840 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,159 enforce like if I don't live on the bike 1841 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,080 route, I have to still get to the bike 1842 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,520 route. So what am I going to do? I'm 1843 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,040 going to ride my bike. So then you're 1844 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,000 still going to have people riding their 1845 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,920 bikes not on the bike route because you 1846 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,760 have to get to the bike route versus a 1847 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,800 semi route which is for thoroughfare 1848 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,400 purposes. So I don't know that that 1849 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,040 would work. But I I mean I agree. it. I 1850 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,760 like the if you're going to ride your 1851 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,320 bike um with your own feet, you can ride 1852 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:19,920 it on the sidewalk and otherwise you 1853 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,120 have to ride it in the street. If you're 1854 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,239 going to use assist, if you're going to 1855 01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:23,920 be moving the speed of traffic, you 1856 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:31,910 should be with the traffic. 1857 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,000 » That probably does get harder, too. 1858 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,239 >> Yeah, that gets really tough. 1859 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:39,920 >> Oh, person green. Um well I guess my 1860 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,560 sorry my question would be for the chief 1861 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,280 um bike helmets 1862 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:51,669 we don't 1863 01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:54,560 I didn't think we did but we do stop and 1864 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,480 talk to kids that do it if they're not 1865 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,480 wearing a helmet you guys will stop and 1866 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:03,110 hey 1867 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,800 yeah I know do they do the same thing 1868 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:10,320 with like the ebikes try to teach Um second thing is is with the lights. 1869 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,520 There is state or state law that they 1870 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,080 have to have working lights on. 1871 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,480 Um I guess that's my 1872 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:26,640 doubt who that is so that get them. 1873 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,120 But I I struggle with where the ebikes 1874 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,960 should be 1875 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,360 because 1876 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,040 on the sidewalk, yes, they're going fast 1877 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,080 and they're going somebody is walking on 1878 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,679 the road. Now you're putting them with 1879 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,800 traffic. That's where I 1880 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,719 car is much bigger than a bike and they 1881 01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:49,600 don't look they just turn 1882 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,880 front of a car or a truck. So 1883 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,080 struggle with where to put them. 1884 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,040 Oh, the person crawly. 1885 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,159 >> We don't have bike lanes. 1886 01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,560 >> The ATV, UTV. I don't think we were able 1887 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,880 to limit where they travel either. So, I 1888 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,760 don't think that's that's a non-starter. 1889 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,920 Um, I do think we should impound the 1890 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,480 bikes for reckless and danger dangerous 1891 01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:13,120 riding and mandate that they have lights 1892 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,960 on them. Don't have a light, you're 1893 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,960 going to lose your bike. 1894 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:22,550 You get a a warning. 1895 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,520 But we do have bike lanes. 1896 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,800 >> We do. 1897 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,440 >> Yeah. On 1898 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,080 >> Elbert Street. I have a bike lane my 1899 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:30,480 house. 1900 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:31,199 >> One street. 1901 01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:32,480 >> No, that's not the only street. There 1902 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:33,920 are other streets. There's 1903 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,480 >> opponent or Carol does not. That's so 1904 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,000 they'll be weaving in and out. 1905 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,760 >> But they do have we do have bike lanes 1906 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,320 throughout the town and they are still 1907 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,159 riding on the sidewalk even with that 1908 01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:46,800 bike lane right there. 1909 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,000 But I mean, if they're able to do 25 1910 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,480 miles an hour, then I agree they should 1911 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,440 be on the road. But if 1912 01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:59,590 instead of on the sidewalk 1913 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,880 » and it's just common sense, like we're 1914 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,719 telling saying something about the kids 1915 01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:08,480 being common sense that um they need to, 1916 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:10,719 you know, watch out for people. I think 1917 01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:13,520 as car drivers, we should also use our 1918 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,120 common sense that if we see somebody 1919 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,520 going down the road, we know that we 1920 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,080 need to either pull over, avoid them, 1921 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,440 because it's not just the kids on the 1922 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:22,800 bike, it's not just the adults on the 1923 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,800 bike, it's also people driving cars or 1924 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,400 people walking on the sidewalk. It's 1925 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,760 everybody. 1926 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,920 >> So, do that. But we know that a lot of 1927 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,080 motorists don't pay attention. That's 1928 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:32,880 the problem. 1929 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,159 >> It doesn't matter what they're driving. 1930 01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:36,560 >> I I see it. I see it all the time out on 1931 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,080 the road, 1932 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,400 >> living during the summer. and they don't 1933 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,639 pay attention to a big truck, let alone 1934 01:23:42,639 --> 01:23:45,360 a bike. Um, but that brings another 1935 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,320 question for the chief. Um, if they're 1936 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,840 out violating like road rules, I know 1937 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,840 you're supposed to use like hand signals 1938 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,480 if you're turning or whatever and 1939 01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,480 looking, but if they're violating any 1940 01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:01,360 hand or any road rules when they're on 1941 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,000 the road, not stopping for stop signs, 1942 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,840 stuff like that. Is there any ticket 1943 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:12,470 process or anything that 1944 01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,000 » I see them all the time. They they blow 1945 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,400 right through stop signs. 1946 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,120 state 1947 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:26,470 >> or state laws all that they could. 1948 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,800 » I see it all the time that they bike 1949 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,000 will just blow right through a stop 1950 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,199 sign. It's like you didn't even look 1951 01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:32,800 either direction. 1952 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,480 >> So, but and I guess to that point, 1953 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:35,920 that's my issue with them being on the 1954 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,000 sidewalks. I think when they're on the 1955 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,080 sidewalk, they think they somehow don't 1956 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,760 have to follow the rest of the rules of 1957 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,600 the road. So, if they come through a 1958 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,440 sidewalk, they're not really by the stop 1959 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,120 sign. That's for the cars. Like, I 1960 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,040 actually had a kid in my neighborhood 1961 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,199 tell me that they didn't have to use 1962 01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:52,960 signals because they don't have them 1963 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,120 like a car does. And I'm like, then you 1964 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,199 if you don't know the rules, you really 1965 01:24:57,199 --> 01:24:59,040 shouldn't be riding on the Yes. Didn't 1966 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,639 know that, you know, and it's like they 1967 01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:02,000 don't think they have to stop at those 1968 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,400 stop signs. And like and I know that's 1969 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,120 both all of the devices, but for ebikes, 1970 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,800 if they're to me, if they're in the 1971 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,880 street, they should be more cautious 1972 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,800 because they should recognize that's 1973 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,800 they're less safe, right? And they 1974 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,400 should be following the stop. Like it 1975 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,800 makes it should make them feel like a 1976 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,800 vehicle to follow the appropriate 1977 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,639 things, not just off the sidewalk, 1978 01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:24,159 across the road, right into the next 1979 01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:27,199 one. Because my my understanding from 1980 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:28,800 what what I have read, my understanding 1981 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,920 is that unless we specifically say these 1982 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,080 can go on the sidewalk, it defaults to 1983 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,440 these can only be on the road for 1984 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:39,600 ebikes. That is my understanding. And 1985 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,760 if I'm wrong, that means we because part 1986 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,600 of why we we haven't I don't think have 1987 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,960 pushed that as much is because wanted to 1988 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,679 have this conversation and but if we 1989 01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:54,159 want them to be allowed on sidewalks, 1990 01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:57,040 then we would need to, I believe, make 1991 01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,480 an an ordinance change for that. 1992 01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,400 Otherwise, my understanding is state law 1993 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,719 defaults these two. They they're on the 1994 01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:28,229 road. 1995 01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:32,870 Never mind. 1996 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:44,470 Typically, they're allowed on 1997 01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:51,830 Currently 1998 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,515 they're not allowed 1999 01:26:54,515 --> 01:26:59,590 [clears throat] 2000 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:04,070 over nextto. [laughter] 2001 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,120 » Um what are some of the successes? This 2002 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,400 is really just for the chiefs. What are 2003 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,639 some of the successes that you guys have 2004 01:27:12,639 --> 01:27:14,480 been seeing through, you know, the 2005 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:17,440 public safety side of these? So, not 2006 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,280 just enforcement, but also citizen 2007 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,719 safety um from, you know, your peers. 2008 01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:25,199 >> Yeah. So we haven't had too many knock 2009 01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:32,470 on the thick wood that we haven't 2010 01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:34,239 really comes down to, you know, guys 2011 01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:41,669 trying to balance 2012 01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:44,790 school. 2013 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,350 You guys already talked a little bit 2014 01:27:49,360 --> 01:28:03,430 trying to ban it one. 2015 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:09,030 Some of the things that I've seen is 2016 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,120 part 2017 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,480 we really didn't have any issues. We've 2018 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:15,520 had ebikes for years. We 2019 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,840 But it's popping up. Mostly what you're 2020 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,800 seeing now is about the motor. 2021 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:28,470 >> That's where your concerns. 2022 01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,480 » Those over 30, that's a completely 2023 01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:34,000 different story. That's 2024 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,920 so the e- motorbikes that you guys are 2025 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,440 seeing is what's really generating. 2026 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:43,030 Not so much ebikes. 2027 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,880 Um emotals most municipalities are 2028 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,629 banning them 2029 01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:51,600 emot 2030 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,840 They put them on put them only on 2031 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,159 private property, 2032 01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:59,760 but they're not allowed on street 2033 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,760 leg. They were going back and forth 2034 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:08,070 about that wanted to allow them. 2035 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,159 That gets really tricky when you start 2036 01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:20,470 put on it. 2037 01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:24,159 So easy things we can do 2038 01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:26,239 ban an e- motor bike. We can take care 2039 01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:29,280 of that. The e the ebikes themselves 2040 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,669 class one two and three 2041 01:29:33,679 --> 01:29:38,070 bikes 2042 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,950 bicycle here. have any 2043 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,639 realize on that. 2044 01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:50,702 It should be allowed on the 2045 01:29:50,712 --> 01:29:53,510 [laughter] 2046 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,520 It's really hard to tell. Like you say, 2047 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,440 they modify stuff. It's hard to tell 2048 01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:02,550 when a bike passes 2049 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,800 because of the speeds. 2050 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,080 They're coasting down a hill and they're 2051 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,990 not using 2052 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:15,510 So many things that 2053 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:23,430 first hurdle is where you want 2054 01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:28,070 sidewalk use. agree. 2055 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:37,750 Do we really want kids that are 2056 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,560 » Yeah. I I I think the from what I've 2057 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,080 looked at and from what I've talked to 2058 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,520 with some of the mayors that I looked 2059 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,440 at, the thing that I think is is a 2060 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:47,120 pretty easy thing to do is kind of like 2061 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,280 what Alder person Tranto was saying, 2062 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,520 like the towing riders or getting 2063 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,280 passengers, that kind of thing. That's pretty straightforward. That's a 2064 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,760 simple thing to do, right? Um because 2065 01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,440 then you're not trying to fight helmets. 2066 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:01,760 You're not trying to fight ages. Um and 2067 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,639 then if you want to impound a, you know, 2068 01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:06,719 egregious violations, 2069 01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:08,560 you know, I I think those are relatively 2070 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:14,560 easy. And then personally for me, like I understand the the concern about being 2071 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,120 on sidewalks, but being I know, you 2072 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,679 know, we have kids going, you know, on 2073 01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:21,440 Slifer on New Pinery getting to school 2074 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:23,840 with these, I really don't want 2075 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,800 elementary school kids that are going to 2076 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,960 be on New Pinery Road. I think that 2077 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,360 would be a a big problem. Even Sliper in 2078 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,920 the mornings can get relatively um busy. 2079 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,880 So, personally, I don't have an issue if 2080 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,320 they're on the levy trail or on these 2081 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,440 multi-use paths or or sidewalks. Um, I 2082 01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:42,880 would I'd be a little more concerned 2083 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,360 with young kids going down new pinery 2084 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,960 because the second we say you can't be 2085 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,000 on any sidewalks, new pinery, I think, 2086 01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,320 becomes a nightmare. Um, that's kind of 2087 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,360 the way I I see it. So if if I was 2088 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:56,880 looking at it, I would say like you want 2089 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,120 to ban the passengers or stunt or 2090 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,120 whatever towing people because that's 2091 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,719 something that was happening is it take 2092 01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:04,639 rope and they'd be towing like none of 2093 01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:08,560 that, right? Um and then saying formally 2094 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,440 yes or no to sidewalks and then 2095 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:15,199 impoundment I think would be 2096 01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:16,080 >> other person Crowley 2097 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,000 >> might be a Jesse question. I'm not sure. 2098 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,120 um your situation. A 12-year-old's 2099 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:22,560 flying down the road with no headlights 2100 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,560 on and runs into Kyle. Who's liable for 2101 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:25,360 that? 2102 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:30,310 >> The dog. [laughter] 2103 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,800 » The parents of the bike owner be be 2104 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,239 liable for it or is it going to be 2105 01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:35,840 processed like well this is a juvenile 2106 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,520 kid and we're not going to do anything? 2107 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:47,189 >> Possible that they're 2108 01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:54,149 Starting 2109 01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:55,679 to get a little 2110 01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:56,960 >> I know things breaking, 2111 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:04,149 >> but I mean Kyle definitely 2112 01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:06,880 » he's wearing all black. 2113 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,159 >> You're Are you talking about C? Because 2114 01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:10,560 he could still civily sue for whatever 2115 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:11,679 and then 2116 01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:21,189 >> Right. I mean 2117 01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:23,199 I I guess as a community if we're going 2118 01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:26,000 to allow them more and more um and not 2119 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,760 really have an age limit on there, 2120 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,639 Wisconsin bike fed does have an ebike 2121 01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:32,719 safety course that you can take. Also, 2122 01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:35,679 AAA also has online courses that allow 2123 01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:38,960 you to um learn more in regards to 2124 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:46,310 safety on these ebikes. 2125 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,760 Well, if you do the ebike, it's online 2126 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,840 and and then also if we wanted to do a 2127 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,159 program, there is also a bike rodeo, 2128 01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:58,000 which is where you can have somebody 2129 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,080 come in. Kids can come in with their 2130 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,560 bikes or whatever, go over the course, 2131 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,080 have a pamphlet or something, and let 2132 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:07,920 them know what the rules are going to be 2133 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,920 or ordinances are going to be in this um 2134 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:11,760 community, whether they're kids or 2135 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,320 adults, and what they need to do. I 2136 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,480 mean, if if we're going to allow it, we 2137 01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,000 might as well welcome it and let them 2138 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,159 know that, you know, we do have rules 2139 01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:22,800 and stipulations. And if we're going to 2140 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,560 tell them that they can't do this, then 2141 01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,639 we need to explain to them why and what 2142 01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:29,040 they can do. 2143 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,639 be safe. 2144 01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:31,679 >> All the person. 2145 01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:33,920 >> Yeah. If I can I address the emoto stuff 2146 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,840 now. Somebody moved on to pass bikes. Um 2147 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,639 so um that I think we should ban them 2148 01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:43,360 entirely. I also think we should ban the 2149 01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,400 electric scooters um that the kids 2150 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,400 terrorize, as far as I know, every 2151 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,400 neighborhood in the city with um on and 2152 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,040 off of curbs, into the street, back on 2153 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,760 the curb, in the middle of the street. 2154 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,080 Um I know other communities have done 2155 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,840 that. Um I get that there's I an ebike I 2156 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,600 can understand that it's being used as a 2157 01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,679 transportation device for people that 2158 01:35:05,679 --> 01:35:07,840 are not you know don't have another 2159 01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,120 option or it's a convenient option. I 2160 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,679 think the motorcycles the ones that 2161 01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:16,800 classify as motorcycles if that's the c 2162 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,480 if it's a cost issue and the person can 2163 01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:20,080 afford that and they want to drive it 2164 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,840 they should be 16 in license. So I think 2165 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,719 that is already covered but I do not 2166 01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:27,520 think we should be allowing like the mo 2167 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,760 little motori any little motorized thing 2168 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,000 other than like the mobility devices for 2169 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,400 people who have um disabled type. 2170 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,120 Weston has a very strong I loved 2171 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,880 Weston's little thing that they put out 2172 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,120 with the red X's of where you can't ride 2173 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,600 things and those are just no you may not 2174 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,360 ride these all these other e things 2175 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:50,880 anywhere on our stuff. go to your 2176 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,560 private yard and do it. 2177 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,560 >> So, if I just to move things along, just 2178 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,480 kind of want to just take a very quick 2179 01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:59,360 rapid fire temperature check. Um, just 2180 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,440 so that we can kind of get a quick 2181 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:04,239 temperature check and move on here. Like 2182 01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:07,120 in terms of would we be okay with like 2183 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,400 no passengers or stunt driving trick 2184 01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,320 racing? We kind of on board with that. 2185 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:17,280 That's okay. Um, are we thinking okay on 2186 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:21,280 sidewalks for ebikes? peding only 2187 01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,360 or at a relative safe speed. 2188 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:26,960 >> Okay. 2189 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,080 >> Yeah. 2190 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,360 I was going to say that one would 2191 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,360 probably be difficult, but generally 2192 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,360 okay with the on sidewalks because if 2193 01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:34,480 kids want to get to school, we don't 2194 01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:35,360 want them on the roads, 2195 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,080 >> right? 2196 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:39,840 >> Okay. And then 2197 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,320 impounding possibly if we have someone 2198 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,960 who consistently is would you be okay 2199 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:50,310 with that or are we on that one? 2200 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:51,679 Yeah. I mean, if you have someone who 2201 01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:53,679 recklessly, there's an option there. It 2202 01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:55,520 would probably be work, but you 2203 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,199 >> give the officer some. 2204 01:36:57,199 --> 01:36:58,320 >> Yeah. 2205 01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:58,719 >> Um, 2206 01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:00,639 >> yeah. I mean, having the ordinance is 2207 01:37:00,639 --> 01:37:03,520 like, did I choose to enforce it? Right. 2208 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,040 Do I right now think that this is 2209 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,800 something I need to enforce? Oh, this is 2210 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,080 the third time I've talked to you in 2211 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,080 three days about what you're doing is 2212 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,760 dangerous. Then at least it gives an 2213 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,239 option and it it gives some teeth to the 2214 01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:17,119 ordinance, right? Like this is the last 2215 01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:20,320 stance you your bike will be impounded. 2216 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:21,520 >> Traffic. 2217 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:22,800 >> Yep. Yep. 2218 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:23,280 >> And then 2219 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,560 >> three in the first week. 2220 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:25,119 >> Yeah. 2221 01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:25,920 >> What's that? 2222 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,520 >> Take three in the first week. 2223 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,000 >> Yeah. Right. 2224 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:28,800 >> And then uh 2225 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,320 >> well I have a theory to share with you. 2226 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,199 And then uh [laughter] and then I guess 2227 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:36,000 uh the last one emot you know not the 2228 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,560 you know not ebikes but emot okay with 2229 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,520 just saying no to those because those I 2230 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,040 believe are 2231 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,149 >> motorcycles 2232 01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:46,560 » property 2233 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,800 >> we we okay with saying no no entirely to 2234 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,840 emot 2235 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,080 >> only on private property. 2236 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:59,669 >> Oh they can go 30 plus right? 2237 01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:06,950 Yeah, 2238 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,639 » it's the ones that don't have pedals. 2239 01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:10,080 They don't they're not bikes anymore. 2240 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,000 >> They're like dirt bikes terrorizes our 2241 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:12,639 neighborhood. 2242 01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:14,800 >> So basically they're So basically 2243 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,560 they're a scooter. 2244 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,400 >> No, they're electric dirt bike. 2245 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:18,880 >> Yeah, 2246 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,320 >> they they some of them 2247 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,320 >> those little ones running around like 2248 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,480 little dirt bike things. 2249 01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:25,760 >> Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, 2250 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,199 >> they look like pit bikes. 2251 01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:28,800 >> I I don't I don't know what they are. I 2252 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,159 was trying to look up what they were. 2253 01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:31,920 >> That one that has like that huffy seat 2254 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,840 belt or seat 2255 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,760 >> know that wide seat. 2256 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,840 >> They got bigger bigger tires on them. 2257 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:38,239 >> Mhm. 2258 01:38:38,239 --> 01:38:39,679 >> Yeah. I think I've seen a couple running 2259 01:38:39,679 --> 01:38:40,719 around my 2260 01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,239 >> No. No. We don't want those on the 2261 01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:42,719 street. 2262 01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:45,360 >> So, it basically So, to basically quick 2263 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,040 recap before I move on, it sounds like 2264 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,280 we're okay with getting rid of the stunt 2265 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,360 trick racing, you know, pulling 2266 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,440 passengers around that. We're okay with them being on 2267 01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,080 sidewalks and we can impound and no to 2268 01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,239 emotos. Is that a summary of kind of 2269 01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:06,390 where we are? 2270 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:07,119 » Most scooters. 2271 01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:09,920 >> That's only a one person device. Anyway, 2272 01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,679 we do we have a problem with electric 2273 01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:12,080 scooters. 2274 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,440 >> They do the same thing. They go like 30 2275 01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:14,080 miles an hour. 2276 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:15,679 >> Are you talking standup scooter or sit 2277 01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:16,400 down scooter? 2278 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:16,880 >> Both. 2279 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,280 >> They go that fast. I know I see them zip 2280 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:20,800 by me, but they're zip by my house, but 2281 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,080 I think 2282 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,159 >> so. I guess I'll say emotos and e- 2283 01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:26,080 scooters. We okay with saying if there's 2284 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,440 no pedals on it. 2285 01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:28,639 >> No pedals and 2286 01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:30,080 >> no pedals, no dice. 2287 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,520 >> Exactly. 2288 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,920 >> Well, but then that muddies the water 2289 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,440 because then you have one wheels and 2290 01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:37,760 electricity. 2291 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,040 >> There's a boat [clears throat] 2292 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:46,629 in town. 2293 01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:47,679 » Yep. 2294 01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:49,199 aren't going to tear up a yard like 2295 01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:52,480 those tires are only what 2296 01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,480 >> you get literally six-year-old kids on 2297 01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:56,239 them like just zoom right across the 2298 01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:57,520 street. 2299 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,560 >> I mean I do think 2300 01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,520 >> Oh, I see it. 2301 01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,040 >> The I think the e scooters are way more 2302 01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,119 dangerous than the other things because 2303 01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:07,040 the kids are standing and you just 2304 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:12,790 backed up. 2305 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,480 And I think some of them do have age 2306 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:17,760 limits on it, but parents do for their 2307 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,510 kids. 2308 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,280 » But I still think not on the streets or 2309 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,440 the sidewalks like ride it around your 2310 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:26,560 yard. 2311 01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:33,990 >> Okay. With an e scooter. 2312 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,000 I mean, I guess I'd rather have kids be 2313 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,239 on ebikes on the levey trail than going 2314 01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:42,000 down 16 or 51. 2315 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:43,840 >> That's a bike, though. Those are 2316 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,280 covered. 2317 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:49,280 >> All right. Um, so that I think got some 2318 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,280 clarification there. So, we'll go ahead 2319 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,760 and move around to the next one. 2320 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,800 >> Administrator report. 2321 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,960 >> One second while I switch PowerPoints if 2322 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,639 it wants to listen. 2323 01:41:04,639 --> 01:41:08,790 We hear Jeopardy music 2324 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,679 lost connectivity. So 2325 01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:13,679 I'll do a quick highlight summary. Road 2326 01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:15,920 projects, sidewalks projects are all 2327 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,760 coming to the end. Is that time of year 2328 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,920 that fund is drawing to a close? Um so 2329 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:28,470 um Calip bathroom Hey, there it goes. 2330 01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:31,280 Health uh Warden bathroom projects is 2331 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,320 slated to begin after park bathrooms 2332 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,000 closed for the season which is October 2333 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,040 5. Goals being completed largely in 2334 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,360 March but no later than April 15th. Is 2335 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:42,320 it Toby? 2336 01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:46,070 >> Ha. 2337 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,080 » Perfect. 2338 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:52,159 And then um in terms Hey, there we go. 2339 01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:53,920 In terms of the finances year to date, 2340 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,920 the city's budget is good. We're in the 2341 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,800 green. Um, we're very close. We're 2342 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,320 running with sub% um of more revenue 2343 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,280 than expenses to date. Some revenue 2344 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:06,719 lines are a little behind than they were 2345 01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:10,560 last year. Uh, but uh, also there's been 2346 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,199 cost impacts along the way. Gas is 2347 01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,679 really expensive. Diesel has gone up a 2348 01:42:15,679 --> 01:42:17,280 lot. Inflation's hit us just like any 2349 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:18,960 other employer. So, we're watching it 2350 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,880 closely. Um, again, that's just through 2351 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,960 July. That's up on the screen. And once 2352 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,960 we go through August numbers, we'll have 2353 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,560 a better understanding where we're 2354 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,080 standing for the remainder of the year. 2355 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,520 Should any changes need to happen, we'll 2356 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,600 let you guys know. But our goal is to 2357 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,239 maintain in the positive. 2358 01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:36,320 Um, a reminder, the water utility rate 2359 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,800 increase will happen in October while a 2360 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,239 3% increase. Uh, it is roughly an 80 2361 01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:43,840 cent increase on the average monthly 2362 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,840 bill for a resident. Um, and this is 2363 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,719 again driven by PSC requirements needing 2364 01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:51,040 us to bring in more revenues per their 2365 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:52,560 standards. 2366 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,639 Then the 2027 budget process is 2367 01:42:54,639 --> 01:42:56,960 underway. The finance personnel 2368 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,960 committees met once already and 2369 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,040 department heads are plugging away. They 2370 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:03,360 were once again given the 0% budget 2371 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,320 increase directive. And we tossed two 2372 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,960 new things in this cycle. Um we are 2373 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,960 developing a sheet on the side. So if a 2374 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,800 department can't maintain zero and what 2375 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,040 has to come out to get them to stay in 2376 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,679 zero, we're tracking it. So, as we go 2377 01:43:17,679 --> 01:43:20,159 through, we find um ways to save if 2378 01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:22,000 something go needs to go back in, we 2379 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,719 have that running list. Additionally, um 2380 01:43:24,719 --> 01:43:27,360 we're asking staff to look closer at our 2381 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,239 capital plan. Usually, we just look at 2382 01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:32,880 next year's closely, then the rest are 2383 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,560 more of a forecast. We're asking staff 2384 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,280 to look very closely at 27 and 28. So, 2385 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,360 we start planning a little further out. 2386 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,000 Um um from from just the planning 2387 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,840 perspective also because we have kids 2388 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,679 who have some positive fund balances we 2389 01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:48,880 need to plan to spend out down and close 2390 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,480 it and all comes out of the same 2391 01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:52,639 employees managing and doing. So 2392 01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:54,320 thinking ahead is going to help us 2393 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,320 address those at the same time. And our 2394 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,480 goal will be next year to look at the 2395 01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:00,320 remainder three years of our financial 2396 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,800 uh our TID dang I can say the right word 2397 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,159 sometimes um capital plan to make it um 2398 01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:09,760 a little more um realistic long term. So 2399 01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,480 that's that that's that one. Last but 2400 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:14,719 not least is general updates. I know we 2401 01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:16,719 just had an election and next one's just 2402 01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,639 around the corner. Absentee ballots go 2403 01:44:18,639 --> 01:44:20,880 out next week and Becky is looking at 2404 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:24,480 already about 515 to be mailed on out. 2405 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:26,639 Engineering department is growing by 2406 01:44:26,639 --> 01:44:28,960 one. The public works department 2407 01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,040 promoted Aaron to the deputy director 2408 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,840 role and they were on the hunt for a new 2409 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,480 um engineering tech and we're able to 2410 01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:38,080 hire an intern who fun fact was actually 2411 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,440 a seasonal employee in the parks 2412 01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,679 department for a while too and he is 2413 01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:43,679 finishing up his college degree down in 2414 01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:46,159 Platville right now. He was gone, but 2415 01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,639 he'll be coming back January part-time, 2416 01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:51,119 then full-time after graduation. So, 2417 01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:52,880 we're able to take our intern who has 2418 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,800 shown improvement and welcome him 2419 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,800 full-time to the city. So, that's a nice 2420 01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,320 win. 2421 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,600 Um Walmart, just an FYI, um during the 2422 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,440 open book process and most recently, 2423 01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:04,960 they their attorneys reach out to our 2424 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,520 attorney. They plan on challenging their 2425 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,000 assessment. That's nothing specific to 2426 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,560 portage. This is what part of Walmart's 2427 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,400 MO. they go around um and select some of 2428 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:17,920 their stores to challenge their 2429 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,000 assessment to lower their tax liability 2430 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,040 and we're next up on the list. So, our 2431 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,800 insurance has coverage should they 2432 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,360 choose to continue to go forward um with 2433 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,400 that process. So, just an FOI if it ever 2434 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,520 hits um a a public channel. 2435 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,440 Additionally, one thing we have our eyes 2436 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:37,760 on as we start to look towards next year 2437 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,800 are some new accessibility requirements 2438 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,400 uh for public local government websites. 2439 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,560 Our site is largely compliant, but we do 2440 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,080 have work to go through to ensure we're 2441 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,840 compliant. And then there's a large 2442 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,760 amount of documents and images on our 2443 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,840 website we have to go through and tag 2444 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,840 and structure in specific ways to be 2445 01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:01,280 compliant. So that'll start to become a timeconsuming lift next year, but 2446 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,119 we're aware of the requirement and we'll 2447 01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:05,119 start working on it in advance of April 2448 01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:08,719 28th because it'll just take time. 2449 01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:11,040 >> Would that be something that um you 2450 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,159 could hire an intern to do? 2451 01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:15,280 >> Or attemp like 2452 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:16,400 >> Yep. 2453 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,679 >> It seems like a good winter project for 2454 01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:21,679 a college student. 2455 01:46:21,679 --> 01:46:23,840 >> Yeah, potentially if we fit in the 27 2456 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,679 budget potential intern. Winter's 2457 01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:28,870 January. 2458 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,040 » Oh, 27. That is 27. Dang. [laughter] 2459 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:38,149 >> That's four months away. Yeah. 2460 01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:44,870 » That's my update for tonight. 2461 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,480 » Possible action, recruitment, selection, 2462 01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:48,880 and compensation for the position 2463 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,480 director, including common council. 2464 01:46:52,480 --> 01:47:00,310 Sure. 2465 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,719 So, um we're I've requested to go in 2466 01:47:02,719 --> 01:47:05,600 close session reg uh discussing our 2467 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,679 finance director and her compensation 2468 01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:12,229 and uh future employment. 2469 01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:13,760 » All the person Bernie 2470 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,840 >> move to go into close session pursuant 2471 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,080 to Wisconsin state statutes 19.85 8 by 2472 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,000 parent one parent C for considering 2473 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,000 employment promotion compensation or 2474 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,480 performance evaluation data of any 2475 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:25,760 public employee over which the 2476 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,600 governmental body has jurisdiction or 2477 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,320 exercises responsibility finance 2478 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:31,840 director. 2479 01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,320 All the person.