[1:28] All right, it is 5:50 p.m. as of my [1:31] time. Uh, we have a public hearing [1:33] notice for 5:50 for the intent to [1:36] exercise special assessment powers [1:39] relative to the replacement and [1:40] installation of sidewalks, driveway [1:42] approaches, and replacement of sanitary [1:44] sewers. [1:46] Please take notice that the common [1:47] council of the city of Portage will [1:48] conduct a public hearing to declare its [1:50] intent to exercise special assessment [1:52] powers relative to replacement and [1:53] installation of sidewalks, driveway [1:55] approaches, and replacement of sanitary [1:57] sewers as follows: sidewalk and or apron [2:00] replacement and or construction for the [2:02] following streets: East Pleasant Street [2:03] from Dwood Street to Hamilton Street. [2:05] Sidewalk and or apron replacement and or [2:07] construction for the following [2:09] addresses. 414 Adam Street, 413 Adam [2:12] Street, 508 Hamilton Street, 426 [2:14] Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson Street. [2:17] Sanitary sewer laterals for the [2:18] following streets. East Pleasant Street [2:20] from Dwit Street to Hamilton Street. [2:22] Sanitary sewer laterals for the [2:24] following addresses. 414 Adam Street, [2:27] 413 Adam Street, 508 Hamilton Street, [2:30] 426 Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson [2:32] Street. The public hearing will be held [2:34] on the 10th day of September, 2026 at [2:36] 5:50 PM in the common council chambers [2:39] at the city municipal building, Portage, [2:40] Columbia County, Wisconsin. All [2:42] interested persons may appear in person [2:44] or by their attorney or by agent for the [2:46] purpose of offering proof either for or [2:48] against the replacement and construction [2:50] of sidewalks and or aprons and [2:52] replacement of sanitary sewers dated [2:54] this 18th day of August, 2026. This has [2:57] been published according to law. [3:00] Before we jump into public uh comments [3:03] regarding that, um did just want to kind [3:05] of outline the process. Uh answer a [3:07] couple of probably would be questions [3:09] associated with it. Um ahead of that, um [3:12] assessments obviously are put in place [3:15] uh because they are a benefit to the [3:17] property. Um the assessments for the [3:20] sanitary sewer throughout um this [3:23] project um are in place because uh we've [3:27] found a number of uh different [3:29] deficiencies in relation to sanitary [3:31] service laterals. Um what a lot of [3:34] people don't realize is those sanitary [3:35] service laterals are the homeowner's [3:37] responsibility all the way from the home [3:40] to the main itself. Um, so when we do [3:42] these projects, we replace that portion [3:45] for the homeowner uh from the main to [3:47] behind the curb line. So if there was [3:49] ever an issue down the line, it would [3:51] likely be on the [3:53] um sidewalks and aprons are included in [3:55] the project scope um to primarily do [3:59] spot replacements uh where utility [4:02] laterals are in conflict as well as [4:03] locations to decrease trip hazards and [4:05] improve slopes. Um existing gravel [4:08] aprons are also upgraded in these uh [4:11] projects to meet city standards. Um [4:15] topics of assessments were brought [4:17] through in the municipal services and [4:18] utilities committee back in July. Um and [4:22] then a preliminary resolution was [4:23] adopted by the council in August. Um the [4:26] reason why this took place in July is we [4:29] have gone through uh this process a [4:32] number of times and we like to use [4:33] relevant information. Um in years past [4:37] um we've used engineer estimates for [4:40] those special assessments and then [4:41] there's been a wide range of whether or [4:44] not those engineers estimates are [4:46] correct. Um so we send out a preliminary [4:49] assessment role and say it's $400 or [4:50] $500 for a particular and then when we [4:53] do the final it comes back and it's [4:55] $1,500. we'd rather give you a a a real [4:59] number um that we think is going to be [5:01] adequate for those assessments before [5:03] then final assessment role is complete. [5:06] Um with the final assessment role that's [5:09] will be coming in the coming months. Um [5:12] how we do that is we take the um prices [5:16] that were provided to us through our [5:17] public bid opening and yield measure [5:20] each individual property. Um, so you [5:23] will only be assessed for the work that [5:25] took place in association. [5:30] With that said, I think we've [5:33] all right. Uh, if anyone would like to [5:34] speak, you can come up and state your [5:36] name and address into the microphone, [5:38] and you'll have five minutes to share [5:40] any concerns, feedback, questions. [5:56] Um, I'm from 229 East Pleasant Street. [6:01] I just got a couple questions. How come [6:03] some driveways did not have to be [6:05] replaced and some did? Been noticing up [6:08] the street that two or three driveways [6:11] got to stay. [6:13] There's nothing wrong with my driveway. [6:14] I don't know. [6:16] If if driveways were in conflict with [6:19] any of the utilities or if the curb line [6:23] uh changed elevation ever so slightly [6:25] throughout the project, that means that a [6:29] >> Okay. Um and I I used to live on a a [6:34] flat street. Now it's a kind of a hill [6:36] going to the Is that what was supposed [6:39] to be or [6:40] >> Yep. to improve drainage in the area. So [6:44] every time it rains, I got a lake in [6:46] front of my house. Now [6:47] >> we have [6:48] >> because of the it's not level yet. [6:50] >> Con the concrete is not yet complete [6:54] some of the the areas. [6:56] >> Then one more question. When are these [6:58] assessments due? So, is that going to be [7:00] at tax time all at once or [7:02] >> So, depending on the assessment uh [7:06] amount um if it's under $300, [7:11] » expect a lump sum payment [7:13] >> remain under [7:14] >> um if it's between 300 and 1500, you [7:18] have the option to add it to tax roll [7:20] and three installments. And then if it's [7:22] over 1500, have the option tax. [7:27] >> Perfect. [7:28] That's it. Thanks. [7:30] >> What was your name, please? [7:32] >> Thank you. [7:44] The [7:51] » Go ahead. [7:51] >> I'm Mike Pine at 221 East Pleasant [7:53] Street. I was looking forward to uh [7:56] Pleasant Street getting fixed and I [7:59] realized I think I talked to Aaron at [8:01] the public works and to me he said the [8:03] street went down because of that. I want [8:06] to do a little history and hopefully I [8:07] can get it done in five minutes. So I [8:09] apologize for that. I lived on a street. [8:11] I had old sidewalks. I replaced them [8:13] myself. Had the guy I think his name is [8:16] B something. He does the lifting where [8:19] he put the stuff under the concrete [8:20] lift. I had a couple of trip hazards. my [8:23] two sections that were my driveway. I [8:25] had an asphalt drive approach before [8:28] Pleasant Street was a little higher. I [8:30] had the sidewalk raised so people [8:31] wouldn't bump their feet on the ledges [8:34] that I had on my sidewalk. I did it a [8:36] couple of times. My sidewalk was raised [8:38] up. So, my driveway was actually below [8:40] the sidewalk. Now, it's even with the [8:42] sidewalk. I have what I call a mogul [8:44] hill. Now, my approach is quite [8:47] dangerous. It's a ramp up for me. I had [8:50] a nice flat one. Now, I have a ramp. I'm [8:52] hopefully I'm not exaggerating too much, [8:54] but my wife hates it. I have what's [8:56] called a Lincoln MKZ car. That's her [8:59] favorite car. It's a 217. It's a low [9:01] rider. It just barely hits the sidewalk [9:04] when I go up my approach and hit the [9:06] sidewalk. So, it's about this much [9:08] between my Lincoln and the sidewalk. So, [9:12] it also was too skinny at the top. They [9:14] said they gave me the same driveway. I [9:16] now drive on a corner of what'll be my [9:18] new grass because the approach at the [9:20] top is not as wide as it is at the [9:22] street. It did flare. I complained to [9:24] Aaron. He did do me a favor and the guy [9:26] from the cement company wasn't happy. He [9:28] did do the flare to give me the flare at [9:30] the street level because I had this odd [9:32] looking ramp thing and then they finally [9:34] put the flare on the one side. Looks [9:36] better. But my wife's totally concerned [9:38] about where we sit as hazard now. If I [9:41] have a kid that's walking to school that [9:43] now goes down my mogul hills, I'll call [9:45] it. My responsible is the city [9:47] responsible for that because I it's ice [9:49] and snow, I'm going to have a problem I [9:51] never had before that people are going [9:52] to slip down my approach now into [9:54] Pleasant Street. So that's all I want. I [9:56] just want to make sure you're aware of [9:58] it that when it comes insurance time, I [10:00] don't pay for somebody the mailman or [10:02] somebody falling into the Pleasant [10:03] Street or the Amazon man or something [10:05] like that because it's not flat anymore. [10:07] It's a nice slope. [10:10] I love the project. I love having the [10:13] terrace look the way it does. I'm glad [10:15] to see that it'll get paved and have a [10:16] decent street on Pleasant Street, but I [10:18] personally, I'm speaking for myself, the [10:19] mogul hill scares me. It's actually [10:21] higher on one side than is the other [10:23] side because contractor matched my [10:25] sidewalk, which had to, like I said, [10:27] when I first started, had to be raised [10:30] to get rid of a trip hazard a few years [10:31] ago. So, I'm not going to say you have [10:35] to change it. I just want you to be [10:36] aware that my responsible now for a [10:38] dangerous thing that wasn't there. in my [10:39] driveway before. I don't know if you [10:41] know that answer. [10:44] That's all I ask. Touch you guys. [10:58] There any uh any others that would like [11:00] to come up and speak? [11:13] Last call for any about the public [11:17] hearing for the special assessments [11:19] installation side. [11:25] » State your name and address for the [11:26] >> Yeah. Good evening. My name is Carrie [11:28] Nielsen. I'm at uh 413 uh East Pleasant [11:31] Street. Uh, I watched the I'm just [11:34] making an observation. I thought the [11:36] construction folks did a pretty good job [11:38] of laying all this work down and I'm [11:41] certain there was some uh issues that [11:43] come along, but specifically my concern [11:46] uh was this has probably been done [11:49] before. So, what decisions go into uh uh [11:54] allocating who pays for what? Is it a [11:56] standard operating procedure? Let's say [11:59] this was done at a different block a [12:00] year ago. Are the same standards uh [12:03] being applied as far as charging the [12:06] citizens? [12:07] You know, because it looks like [12:09] percentages, 100 50% of this, that kind [12:12] of thing. I I'm looking for an answer of [12:15] uh when it was done before, are you [12:17] applying the same standards or do you [12:20] have an open uh book to say we can go [12:23] here, go there? How do you determine [12:25] those costs for the citizens? Is it [12:28] consistent with the past? Sure. [12:32] Um, so what what that does is it goes [12:34] through our municipal services and [12:36] utilities committee first and then [12:38] obviously to the council for approval of [12:40] a preliminary resolution. Um, typically [12:44] the municipal services recommends what [12:46] items are going to be special assessed. [12:49] Um, what I can say for this project, it [12:51] is in comparison to projects of similar [12:53] nature in the past. uh primarily the uh [12:57] West Conan Street project as well as our [12:59] West Carol Street project that took [13:00] place [13:02] um which are similar kind of [13:03] neighborhood. [13:08] » Uh one more thing as far as that uh [13:12] assessment sheet that came in the mail. [13:14] So that's not the actual cost. Is this [13:18] being evaluated still? [13:19] >> Correct. That is correct. We field [13:21] measure everything that goes in and then [13:24] [clears throat] a final uh assessment [13:26] notice will be provided. [13:29] >> And can you recap uh if we can make [13:32] installments? I know you did do it [13:34] earlier. Can you recap again if we can [13:37] uh make installments? [13:38] >> Yep. So if it's $300 or less, the [13:41] expectation was would be that you would [13:43] pay in one lump sum. If it's between [13:45] $300 and $1,500, [13:48] you have the ability to add that to your [13:50] tax roll in three annual installments. [13:52] And if it's above $1,500, you have the [13:55] ability to add it to your tax ro in five [13:57] annual installments. [13:59] >> Okay, great. That's all I got. Thanks. [14:01] Thank you. [14:03] >> Before we close that out, just to [14:04] clarify, no action on these assessments [14:06] are taking place tonight. Uh that will [14:09] come by way of a final resolution coming [14:11] months. [14:25] Rachel Schmidt, I just have a curiosity [14:28] question. [14:28] >> What's your address? 211 East Pleasant. [14:30] >> What was that? [14:31] >> 211. [14:34] >> What's with the concrete, [14:37] whatever that goes across the end of the [14:40] 200 block? Why was that put there? [14:44] It was never there. [14:45] >> That's a drainage curb um to take water [14:48] from uh areas of higher elevation across [14:51] the roadway. [14:52] >> Okay. [14:53] >> Kind of an odd thing because it was [14:55] never there and several of us have [14:57] questioned. [14:58] >> Sure. Yep. It's a it's a standard kind [15:00] of design practice for watershed. [15:03] >> Okay. [15:08] Any [15:12] others? [15:17] for the final assessment or [15:20] the intent to exercise special [15:23] assessment public hearing? [15:27] All right, we'll close that at 6:04 p.m. [15:43] » All right, ging into the regular common [15:46] council meeting scheduled for 6 PM. [15:48] Becky, call the role, please. [15:51] >> Bernander, [15:52] >> here. [15:53] >> Crowley, [15:53] >> here. Dunahee here. Boss excused. Green [15:57] >> here. [15:58] >> Paul excused. Schlinkert [16:00] >> here. [16:01] >> Trento [16:02] >> here. [16:02] >> Wutzel. [16:03] >> We have a quorum. Pledge of allegiance. [16:10] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the [16:12] United States of America and to the [16:15] republic for which it stands. One nation [16:18] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [16:21] justice for all. [16:36] Approval of the agenda. [16:37] >> I have no changes. [16:39] >> Public comment. I have received none. [16:41] >> I have received none. [16:44] >> Proclamation for 2026 fire prevention. [16:47] >> All right. [16:50] Okay. City of Portage 2026 fire [16:53] prevention proclamation. Whereas the [16:55] city of Portage is committed to ensuring [16:57] the safety and security of all those [16:59] living in and visiting Portage. And [17:01] whereas fire remains a serious public [17:03] safety concern both locally and [17:05] nationally and the presence of lithium [17:07] ion batteries in many household devices [17:10] introduce fire risks. And most of the [17:12] rechargeable electronics used in homes [17:15] daily, including smartphones, tablets, [17:17] laptops, power tools, ebikes, e- [17:19] scooters, and toys are powered by [17:21] lithium ion batteries, which if misused, [17:24] damaged, or improperly charged can [17:26] overheat, start a fire, or explode. And [17:29] whereas the National Fire Protection [17:31] Association, NFPA, reports an increase [17:34] in battery related fires, underscoring [17:37] the need for public education on the [17:38] safe use of lithium ion batteries and [17:41] devices. And the way lithium ion battery [17:44] devices are charged can make a [17:46] difference in helping prevent home [17:49] fires. And whereas safe charging [17:52] includes using the cord and charger that [17:55] came with your device or when approved [17:57] by the manufacturer, charging on a hard [17:59] flat surface, watching for warning signs [18:02] like devices that are very hot or about [18:04] to swell, unplugging when fully charged, [18:07] charging larger devices like ebikes [18:09] outside and away from access. And [18:12] whereas residents are encouraged to [18:15] understand that safe charging means [18:16] making smart choices every time they [18:18] plug in and for portage fire rescue [18:21] remains dedicated to reducing the [18:24] occurrence of fires through prevention, [18:26] safety education, and community [18:27] outreach. And whereas the 2026 fire [18:31] prevention week theme, charge into fire [18:33] safety, safe charging is a superpower, [18:36] serves to remind all residents that safe [18:39] charging can help reduce the risk of [18:41] fires in homes and communities. Now [18:44] therefore, I, Matt Feny, mayor of the [18:46] city of Portage, do hereby proclaim [18:49] October 4th through 10th, 2026 as fire [18:53] prevention week throughout the city of [18:55] Portage and urge all residents to learn [18:57] about and practice safe charging habits. [19:00] Given under my hand this 10th day of [19:02] September, 2026 in the city of Portage. [19:26] Justin's in. [19:29] >> Good thing we got the official portage [19:31] photographer, you know, aka [19:35] [laughter] [19:36] one. [19:36] >> Yeah, exactly. [19:43] » Say fire. [laughter] [19:48] Try to get a little closer. [19:55] Hey, one more. [20:01] [laughter] [20:03] >> Yeah. [20:03] >> Bring your hand up like this. [20:06] [laughter] [20:16] » Say left or [laughter] right. They all [20:17] were. [20:20] Is that like a standard? [20:22] >> They literally were all left. [20:24] >> Absolutely. [20:25] >> I just like to thank the mayor, uh, city [20:27] council, all city staff members that [20:30] recognize, uh, fire prevention week and, [20:33] uh, with this proclamation. [20:35] Um, fire prevention is a, uh, very [20:38] integral component in life safety and we [20:41] as a department take it very seriously. [20:43] Um, so we really recognize or we really [20:46] want to thank you guys so much for this [20:48] and uh it means a lot to us. So I want [20:50] to remind everybody that uh open house [20:53] is going it's got a little bit of a [20:54] change this year. Uh we're going to go [20:56] on a Thursday night. Uh we're going to [20:58] stay away from uh a busy fall Saturday. [21:01] So it will be October 8th from 4 to 7. [21:05] So put it on your calendars. We'll be uh [21:08] pushing it out. What's that? [21:09] >> We'll be here. [21:12] >> Perfect. Great. [21:13] >> We'll make sure this gets done nice and [21:14] early so you guys can stop down. [21:17] >> Thank you again. We appreciate it. [21:23] » Resolution 26-018 relative to Theresa H. [21:26] Johnson, Sergeant. [21:28] >> So, this one is in recognition of all [21:30] the great work that Teresa Johnson has [21:32] done for the city of Portage Police [21:35] Department. I'll read this off. Uh [21:37] whereas Terresa Johnson served the [21:38] Portage Police Department and the city [21:40] of Portage from January 1999 until [21:42] September 2026. And during Terresa [21:45] Johnson's 27-year tenure with the city, [21:47] she was assigned to the detective [21:49] division, held the rank of sergeant, and [21:51] obtained her master's degree. Terresa [21:53] performed many roles within the [21:54] department and the Portage community, [21:56] including the triad officer, citizen [21:58] academy instructor, field training [22:00] officer, and Portage youth baseball [22:02] board member. And whereas Teresa Johnson [22:04] heightened the police department's [22:06] professionalism and image and touched [22:08] countless lives with her compassion [22:09] first approach and while also serving as [22:12] the past Wisconsin association of women [22:14] police president and current board [22:16] member. And whereas Terresa Johnson [22:18] dedicated her professional life to [22:20] service and excelled in mentorship and [22:22] leadership amongst our agency and the [22:25] law enforcement community partners. And [22:27] now, therefore, be it resolved that I, [22:29] Matt Feny, mayor of the city of Portage, [22:31] and on behalf of the common council, the [22:33] employees and citizens of Portage, do [22:35] hereby thank Teresa Johnson for her [22:37] commitment to protecting and serving the [22:39] city of Portage, recognize her many [22:41] years of service, and wish her a long [22:43] and joyful retirement. Dated this 10th [22:46] day of September, 2026. [22:50] [applause] [22:54] » [applause] [23:09] » Teresa prepared a 10-minute speech that [23:12] she's going to let [laughter] everyone. [23:13] If [23:14] >> you know me, that's not true. [23:15] >> Yeah. On behalf of Teresa, no. Um she's [23:18] a considerably huge loss for our [23:20] department uh in the way of experience, [23:23] in the way of being a mentor and a [23:24] leader in our department. Um it's going [23:26] to be hard to replace her. Um I've [23:28] worked my entire career with Teresa and [23:30] we have so many great memories to share [23:32] and uh a lot of trials and tribulations [23:35] along the way, but um she's such a a [23:38] wonderful member of our department. [23:40] Going to be very well missed and I hope [23:42] you have one heck of a retirement. [23:46] I have a picture up front. [23:47] >> Can we do a motion first, [23:50] >> please? [laughter] [23:51] >> Oh. Ah. [23:52] >> Go ahead. [23:53] >> All right. Other person green. [23:55] >> I'd like to make a motion to [24:00] accept resolution 26-018. [24:05] » All person. [24:07] >> I'll second. [24:09] >> Any further discussion? Becky, call the [24:11] roll, please. [24:12] >> Raleigh. [24:12] >> I. [24:13] >> Donny. Hi [24:14] >> Green. [24:14] >> Hi [24:15] >> Schlinkert. [24:16] >> Hi [24:16] >> Tanto. [24:17] >> Hi [24:17] >> Watzel. [24:18] >> Hi [24:18] >> Fernander. [24:19] >> Hi [24:24] » now. It's official. [24:51] » [laughter] [25:11] » The whole family up there. [25:22] [laughter] [25:45] I'd probably take better pictures over [25:47] here. [25:48] >> You probably [26:02] [applause] [26:10] » [laughter] [26:11] >> No [26:17] [clears throat] [26:22] approval of minutes of the common [26:24] council meeting August 13, 2026. [26:29] » Person Bordander. [26:30] >> I'll move to approve the meeting minutes [26:32] of August 13, 2026. [26:35] All person Wetszel, [26:36] >> I'll second it. [26:37] >> Any further discussion? [26:40] All [26:40] >> personinker. Can [26:42] >> I ask any questions about what happened [26:43] in those minutes? Follow-ups from things [26:46] that we talked about or No. [26:48] >> Yeah. I'm wondering if there is any [26:52] update on the park injury that we agreed [26:54] to ask the insurance carrier to do their [26:56] thing. [26:56] >> I've not heard anything. [26:57] >> Okay. Thanks. And then also um the [27:00] contract for the blood services. Did [27:02] that get completed? [27:04] Okay, [27:06] >> perfect. Okay, thanks. [27:09] >> Any further discussion? [27:13] » All right, Becky, call the roll, please. [27:15] >> Uh, [clears throat] Dunny, [27:16] >> hi. [27:17] >> Green, [27:17] >> hi. [27:18] >> Slinkert, [27:19] >> hi. [27:19] >> Tranto, [27:20] >> hi. [27:20] >> Wetzel, [27:21] >> hi. [27:21] >> Bernander, [27:22] >> hi. [27:22] >> Cwley, [27:23] >> hi. [27:23] >> Passes. [27:26] >> Consent agenda, Police and Fire [27:27] Commission, July 29th. Library Board, [27:29] August 11th. Business Improvement [27:31] District Board of Directors, August [27:32] 12th, Legislative and Regulatory, August [27:35] 13th, Park and Wreck, August 17th, Plan [27:37] Commission, August 17th, Municipal [27:39] Services and Utilities, August 27th. [27:42] Finance Personnel September 3rd. [27:44] >> All person Green. [27:45] >> Make a motion to approve the consent [27:47] agenda. [27:48] >> All the person wet. [27:49] >> Second it. [27:50] >> Any further discussion? All person. Um [27:54] I'm wondering there was a zoning um [27:57] change approved that requires a um [28:00] conditional use permit and an update to [28:01] the comprehensive plan. Will those be [28:03] coming back to full [28:06] council or will those be happening only [28:09] at municipal services [28:12] specifically the one at 341 Cemetery [28:14] Road? That's the one that started off at [28:17] plan commission. It will come before the [28:19] council before its approval and does [28:20] need a comprehensive plan as well. So, [28:22] that's in the works, but it will be [28:24] coming here before it's it's done. Yeah. [28:28] >> Thank you. [28:29] >> Other questions. [28:37] » Becky, call the roll, please. [28:39] >> Green. [28:40] >> Hi. [28:40] >> Slinkert. [28:41] >> Hi. [28:42] >> Tranto. [28:42] >> Hi. [28:43] >> Wetszel. [28:44] >> Hi. [28:44] >> Bernander. [28:45] >> Hi. [28:46] >> Cwley. [28:46] >> Hi. [28:47] >> Donahe. [28:47] >> Hi. [clears throat] [28:50] >> New business. Finance Personnel [28:52] discussion and possible action on claims [28:54] for August. [28:56] >> All the person Bernander [28:57] >> move to approve 4,221,480.80 [29:01] in total paid claims and debt. [29:04] >> All the person green. [29:05] >> A second. [29:07] >> Any further discussion? [29:11] » Becky, color roll, please. [29:12] >> Slinkert. [29:13] >> Hi. [29:13] >> Tranto. [29:14] >> Hi. [29:15] >> Wetszel. [29:16] >> Hi. [29:16] >> Bernander. [29:17] >> Hi. [29:18] >> Cwley. [29:18] >> Hi. [29:19] >> Donahe. [29:19] >> Hi. [clears throat] I [29:21] >> passes discussion and possible action [29:23] ordinance 26-009 [29:26] relative to discontinuing the joint [29:27] municipal court between the city of [29:29] Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin and [29:31] the village of Endeavor, Marquette [29:32] County, Wisconsin. [29:35] >> So this is a request from the village [29:36] endeavor. We knew it may be coming for some time given how little they use [29:40] our court in a given year. There's only [29:43] a handful of cases that come from the [29:44] village of Endeavor to our joint court. [29:47] So this is um their request and um from [29:51] staff's perspect perspective there is no [29:53] concern with the request. What it [29:55] ultimately ends up doing is just [29:56] creating some administrative work for [29:57] the city of portage for the design [29:59] impact our court cases. Um we would have [30:02] to pass this ordinance amend our [30:04] ordinances instead of saying joint court [30:06] be a portage municipal court. Um we'll [30:09] have a court inspection complete a [30:11] couple other items and then um um have [30:14] our own court going forward. Um only [30:17] thing that could still impact us from [30:18] the village of Endeavor is past cases if [30:20] they need to come back to our court, but [30:22] that's would be a small impact if any. [30:26] And um financially it does not really [30:29] impact the city because they used our [30:30] court so little. We we always um bore [30:33] the majority if not all the costs [30:35] associated with our court because of [30:36] that. So staff would recommend [30:38] considering an approval of the villages [30:40] request. [30:42] >> That was the first reading. [30:44] Okay. too soon. [30:48] >> All person green. [30:49] >> I make a motion to suspend the rules and [30:51] read ordinance 26-009 [30:53] second reading. [30:58] » President Tranto. [30:59] >> Second. [31:01] >> Any further discussion? [31:03] Becky, call a roll, please. [31:04] >> Tranto. [31:06] Butel. Hi. [31:07] >> Bernander. Hi. [31:08] >> Cwley. Hi. [31:09] >> Dun. Hi. [31:10] >> Green. [31:11] >> Hi. Slinker. [31:12] >> Hi. [31:16] Uh, ordinance 26-009, [31:18] ordinance for discontinuing the joint [31:20] municipal court between the city of [31:21] Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin, and [31:23] the village of Endeavor, Marquette [31:24] County, Wisconsin. This is the second [31:25] reading. [31:27] >> All person green. [31:28] >> Make a motion to adopt ordinance 26-009. [31:32] >> All the person Bernander [31:33] >> second. [31:34] >> Any further discussion? [31:38] » Becky, call the role, please. [31:39] >> Wel, [31:40] >> I. [31:41] >> Bernander, [31:42] >> hi. Cwley [31:43] >> I [31:44] >> Dunny. [31:44] >> Hi [31:45] >> Green. [31:46] >> Hi [31:46] >> Schlinkert. [31:47] >> Hi [31:47] >> Tranto. [31:48] >> Hi. [31:52] » Discussion and possible action [31:54] resolution 26-019 [31:56] relative to exemption from county [31:58] library tax 2027. [32:08] » Person Green. I got a motion to adopt [32:10] resolution 26-009 [32:13] or 019 sorry [32:19] » person trying to [32:19] >> second [32:21] >> any further discussion [32:25] call the roll please [32:26] >> Bernander [32:27] >> hi [clears throat] [32:28] >> Cwley [32:28] >> I [32:29] >> Donnahe I [32:30] >> green [32:30] >> hi [32:31] >> Slinkert [32:31] >> hi [32:32] >> tranto [32:32] >> hi [32:33] >> Wzel [32:34] >> hi [32:34] >> yeses [32:36] legislative and regulatory discussion [32:37] and possible action on change of agent [32:39] foria LLC 125 WA trail class B [32:43] combination license to Jeremy [32:45] Santorelli. [32:51] So in the packet I have that um Mr. [32:55] Jeremy Centrelli he is here also he is [32:58] buying the entire LLC. So that's why [33:00] he's just required to be a change of [33:01] agent and he's changing the trade name [33:03] which also falls under it can just be a [33:06] change like this. We don't he does not [33:07] need to apply for the entire new [33:09] license. [33:11] So and he's had the background check and [33:13] everything is [33:15] >> all the person Bernierander [33:16] >> move to approve change of agent for [33:18] Rolandi LLC to Jeremy St. [33:22] Person Wetzel. [33:23] >> I'll second it. [33:24] >> Any [clears throat] further discussion? [33:28] » Becky color roll please. [33:30] >> Caleley [33:31] >> I [33:32] >> Dunny I [33:33] >> Green. [33:33] >> Hi. [33:34] >> Linkert. [33:35] >> Hi. [33:35] >> Trentto. Hi [33:36] >> Wel Ernander. [33:38] >> Hi [33:38] >> passes. [33:41] >> Municipal services and utilities [33:42] discussion and possible action [33:44] resolution number 26-020 [33:46] relative to Bureau of Aeronautics [33:48] airport layout plan project approval for [33:50] the fuel farm. [33:53] >> Uh so this resolution uh essentially [33:56] gives authorization to the BOA to move [33:58] forward with the fuel farm relocation [34:01] project. Um, back in 2023, we petitioned [34:04] the Secretary of Transportation for [34:06] airport improvement aid associated with [34:08] this project. And then in 204, [34:12] uh, we also passed a resolution that [34:14] gave approval, uh, for the VO8. [34:18] Planning and bidding processes [34:19] associated with that project. Um design [34:22] work wrapped up earlier this year and [34:25] there was a public bid opening held on [34:27] May 7th uh where Metco Fuel Systems [34:30] provided the low qualified bid for the [34:33] project. The total anticipated costs are [34:36] roughly $900,000 [34:39] uh which includes METCO's construction [34:40] contract as well as the design costs. [34:44] Um, the project has a planned cost [34:46] sharing of 95% federal, two and a half% [34:49] state, and two and a half% local, which [34:52] would come out to be roughly $22,000 to [34:55] the city. Um I will note that if state [34:58] funding is spent uh meaning that two and [35:00] a half% state share uh we will be [35:03] required to adopt two ordinances before [35:06] January 1st 2027 relating to height [35:10] limitation zoning around the airport as [35:13] well as uh vehicle and pedestrian [35:16] traffic ordinances as they relate to [35:19] surfaces of the that would just be for [35:22] their two and a half% [35:27] adopt those ordinances. We would just be [35:29] on the hook for that. [35:38] [laughter] [35:40] » Start lip syncing. [35:43] >> All the person lickered. [35:45] [laughter] [35:46] >> She could be way off those quite the [35:48] timing. [35:48] >> Be way off base. [35:51] it the those two ordinances are like in [35:53] the works yet for more discussion. [35:55] >> They are we've um briefly brought them [35:58] to the attention of municipal services [36:00] at our July meeting and then we had [36:02] preliminary discussions with the [36:04] representative [36:06] at our August municipal services [36:08] meeting. Our intent is to bring [36:09] something back in October um to discuss [36:12] it further. [36:15] President Cwley, [36:16] >> it was also brought to if I get it wrong [36:19] correctly, but I think it was also [36:21] brought to our attention that [36:24] >> with city [36:27] our decision to enforce [36:30] that's uh [36:32] >> correct. So that that's relative to the [36:34] ordinances itself. Um, yeah, the city [36:37] would have the the ability to enforce [36:39] the ordinances obviously much like any [36:42] of our other ordinances. [36:44] We then also have the ability to modify [36:47] the draft language that was [36:52] forward [36:55] over [37:09] Person Bernander [37:10] >> move to approve resolution. [37:14] » Other person Dunny. [37:16] >> I will uh second that motion. [37:19] >> Any further discussion? [37:22] Becky, call the roll, please. [37:24] >> Donny, [37:25] >> hi. [37:26] >> Green. [37:27] >> Hi. [37:28] >> Linkert. [37:28] >> Hi. [37:29] >> Trantow. [37:29] >> Hi. Wetzel. [37:32] >> Bernander. [37:33] >> Hi. [37:33] >> Crawley. [37:34] >> I [37:34] >> passes. [37:37] >> Discussion and possible action contract [37:38] award. New Pinery storm sewer. [37:42] >> Um so anybody that's lived in Portage [37:44] knows that when it rains we get standing [37:47] water on New Pinery in front of [37:48] Quicktrip. Um we've come up with a plan [37:52] um to relay some of that standing water [37:55] that sits in the lowlying curb to an [37:57] adjacent watershed. Um essentially we'll [38:00] be tying it into some of the existing [38:02] storm sewer in the area by adding a curb [38:05] inlet. Um we sought proposals from a [38:08] number of contractors to perform this [38:10] work with concrete solutions uh [38:13] providing the lowest and only qualified [38:15] quote at 22,3. [38:20] Um the 2026 capital expenditure plan [38:22] does have $40,000 budgeted for this and [38:25] we are recommending [38:27] approval of this work through concrete [38:30] solutions. Um additionally this work [38:32] will be done [38:34] their work associated property. Um so [38:37] they'll be utilizing some of the same [38:39] traffic control. [38:45] Other person Bernander [38:46] >> move to approve new pinary storm water [38:48] repairs contract to concrete solutions [38:50] $22,3131 [38:55] personel [38:56] >> I'll second it [38:57] >> any further discussion [39:02] call the roll please [39:03] >> green [39:03] >> hi [39:04] >> linkert [39:05] >> hi [39:05] >> trantow [39:06] >> hi [39:07] >> wetzel [39:08] >> hi [39:08] >> Bernander [39:09] >> hi [39:10] >> Cwley [39:10] >> hi [39:11] >> Dunah [39:11] >> hi's [39:13] discussion and possible action contract [39:15] award traffic signal upgrades design [39:17] services US highway 51 Hardle and US [39:20] Highway 51 state highway 16. [39:24] In 2024, we applied for two signal [39:27] upgrade projects under the uh Wisconsin [39:30] Department of Transportation's SISP [39:32] grant program. Um we were awarded this [39:35] grant uh which includes 90% funding for [39:40] full traffic signal upgrades. um no [39:43] different than what we're doing at the [39:45] intersections of Collins and Slifer [39:48] Street on New Pinery this year. Um [39:52] the two projects that are next up in [39:55] line for that grant cycle are the [39:57] intersection of US 51 and Hardle Street [40:01] and US 51 and 16 or McFarland and [40:04] Wisconsin Street. Um [40:07] we sought proposals for design from [40:10] traffic analysis and design [40:11] incorporated. uh for design services [40:13] associated with these projects. Um they [40:16] were contracted by the city for in 2024 [40:19] uh to submit the applications for this [40:22] grant funding cycle and have performed [40:24] for the city past. They provided pricing [40:27] of $76,1.50 [40:30] for both intersections and the capital [40:33] improvement plan includes $131,000 [40:38] associated with these [40:41] program. Um so we essentially pay the [40:44] full bill and then request reimbursement [40:52] green. I make a motion to award [40:56] contract design to traffic analysis and [41:01] design incorporated in the amount of [41:02] $76,154.50 [41:06] person wet. [41:07] >> I'll second it. [41:09] >> Any further discussion? [41:11] All person. [41:12] >> This is just for them to figure out [41:14] where the lights go, all of the wiring [41:17] and that not installing or sourcing of [41:20] new [41:21] >> correct. Um I think anticipated cost for [41:24] the installations themselves are roughly [41:29] >> for two stop lights. [41:31] >> It's the whole intersection. [41:33] So um it would be four four actual [41:36] apparatuses [41:38] >> two intersections [41:41] >> in the wrong business. [laughter] [41:49] First and second. Any further [41:51] discussion? [41:53] Becky, call please. [41:55] >> Linkert. [41:56] >> Hi. [41:56] >> Fantau. [41:58] >> Wutzel. [41:59] >> Bernander. [42:00] >> Hi. [42:01] >> Cwley. [42:01] >> I. [42:02] >> Dunny. [42:03] >> I. [42:03] >> Green. [42:04] >> Hi. [42:04] >> Passes. [42:06] Discussion and possible action contract [42:08] award. Well, six VFD replacement. [42:12] Um so earlier this year we had a [42:14] variable frequency drive or VFD um at [42:18] one of our wells go down due to [42:20] overheating. Um these VFDs control and [42:23] regulate pump operations in attempt to [42:25] ensure significant tear does not take [42:27] place on processes. Uh we were able to [42:31] reset that VFD. Um but h however in [42:34] order cooling of the unit had to add [42:38] some secondary equipment. um [42:42] plethora of fans blowing on it. [42:45] Unfortunately, [42:46] um this existing VFD is approximately 15 [42:49] plus years old and needs more. Um we did [42:53] receive quotes on this with municipal [42:55] well and pump out of rep providing the [42:58] lowest qualified quote in the amount of [43:02] um this project would be funding funded [43:04] through our six operational budget [43:07] though this project was not specifically [43:09] budgeted. uh funds are available. [43:14] » Person Greens [43:15] >> make a motion to award the contract to [43:17] municipal well and pump in the amount of [43:19] 17,9 $17,90. [43:23] All [43:24] >> person Tranto [43:24] >> second. [43:26] >> Any further discussion? [43:30] >> Becky call please. [43:31] >> Tranto. [43:32] >> Hi. [43:33] >> Wetzel. [43:33] >> Hi [43:34] >> Fernander. [43:35] >> Hi [43:35] >> Cwley. [43:36] >> Hi [43:36] >> Danahe. [43:37] >> Hi [43:38] >> Green. [43:38] >> Hi Flinkard [43:40] >> I [43:43] » appointment by the mayor confirmed by [43:45] council vote park and recreation board [43:47] school representative at large Terara [43:49] Syler to complete the three-year term [43:52] ending 4:30 2028 [44:10] person link. [44:10] >> I'll make a motion to approve the [44:12] appointment. All [44:13] >> person. [44:14] >> I will second. [44:16] >> Any further discussion? [44:18] >> Becky, color roll, please. [44:19] >> Wetzel. [44:20] >> Hi. [44:21] >> Bernander. [44:21] >> Hi. [44:22] >> Cwley. [44:23] >> Hi. [44:23] >> Dun. [44:24] >> Hi. [44:24] >> Green. [44:25] >> Hi. [44:26] >> Slinkert. [44:26] >> Hi. [44:27] >> Tranto. [44:27] >> Hi. [44:28] >> Passes. [44:32] discussion and possible action [44:34] reconsideration of operator license [44:35] application for Rebecca Crier. So if you [44:38] remember this was recommended for [44:39] denial. Uh so a letter went to Rebecca [44:41] and she has the chance to come and um [44:45] give her side and you can choose to [44:47] overturn the denial or to uphold the [44:50] denial. [44:57] » Hi my name is Rebecca Crier. Um, I've [45:00] never done something like this, but I [45:02] applied for my bartender's license. I am [45:04] currently the general manager of 1873 [45:06] Bar and Grill, Neil's Wine House, and [45:08] the 1873 Bar and Grill food trailer. Um, [45:11] I work roughly 60hour weeks. I am there [45:13] all the time, open to close, especially [45:15] on weekends and busy days or when we [45:17] have events. Um, I hold the food manager [45:20] um, certificate for all the places. I do [45:23] all the scheduling. I do everything [45:24] there. I applied for my bartender's [45:26] license, not to make cash tips or to be [45:29] the bartender so that I could hold the [45:30] license so I could train new people, get [45:32] new people in and working and save on [45:34] payroll costs so that we don't have five [45:37] people in the building. Me training [45:38] someone holding the license and the new [45:40] person working. I just wanted to hold [45:42] the license so I could train them. Um, I [45:44] wouldn't actually be bartending. I have [45:47] a letter of recommendation from my [45:49] employer. I don't know if you guys would [45:51] like to read. I have two copies I could [45:53] pass around or if you want me to read [45:56] it, I could. I don't necessarily like [45:59] speaking in front of all of you guys, [46:00] but I would. Um, [46:03] yeah, I'm just asking for [46:04] reconsideration. Um, in my letter, I was [46:06] denied from two or more drug or alcohol [46:10] convictions in the last 5 years. My [46:12] convictions are from September of 2023. [46:15] However, my charges were April, the most [46:18] recent one was April 6th of 2022. I had [46:21] a very premature baby after that who was [46:23] in the NICU and my court dates kept [46:25] getting pushed back and that's why I was [46:27] convicted so late. It's been almost five [46:29] years since I've been in trouble. I'm in [46:31] compliance with all of my AODA [46:33] treatment, my probation and parole. Um I [46:36] could pass UA at any time. I I don't [46:39] drink. I don't do drugs. I I work and I [46:42] go home to my baby. I just want to hold [46:44] that license so I can train staff and [46:46] save on our payroll. [46:48] Um, I don't really have anything else to [46:50] say. Do you guys want to read the letter [46:52] from my employer? [46:54] >> All right. [46:56] >> Pass it around. [47:09] » Slinker. So my concern is that um like [47:14] if I understand you don't plan to be [47:16] bartending but there's not a [47:18] differentiation in the license. [47:20] So like [47:21] >> I would hold the license so that [47:22] somebody there when we hire new people [47:24] who don't have it they could work under [47:26] my license. [47:27] >> I understand but there's nothing that [47:28] like if we give this to you then there's [47:30] my understanding is there's nothing that [47:31] stops you from doing that. So I know [47:33] that's not your intent but we don't have [47:35] a like trainer license. Correct. You're [47:39] correct, Amy. [47:40] >> So, so that that's my struggle with it [47:43] is like [47:45] it's [47:46] if we start making exceptions [47:50] like we don't have the ability to stop [47:52] that because we already gave you [47:54] permission. So, you could decide in a [47:58] week or a month or a year that you want [47:59] to do it and then you [48:01] >> Well, I'm a salary paid employee. They [48:03] don't allow me to make cash tips or work [48:06] like that. But I mean, I understand I [48:07] could take it some somewhere else, but [48:09] that's [48:11] not the intent. [48:15] » Person Green. [48:16] >> And that's my struggle with our our [48:19] liquor license as we hold it here. Um, [48:22] and I think it changed in the recent [48:24] time statewide is that you could take [48:28] the license even though not doing cash [48:31] tips, [48:32] you can go and work for another bar. Not [48:35] that you want to because you're working [48:36] 60 hours, but you could [48:39] or you could leave your employer in a [48:42] week and go work someplace else. Nothing [48:46] stopping us from doing citywide, not [48:48] just [48:51] >> I understand. I just wanted to make the [48:53] attempt. [48:57] » President Crowley, [48:58] >> I've had my own regrets in the past and [49:01] changed things. Uh, don't make me regret [49:04] this. I make a motion to approve her [49:06] liquor license. [49:08] >> The person wet. [49:10] >> Second it. [49:14] » All the person Bernander. [49:17] >> I think I'll I'll vote with um but yeah, [49:21] just don't don't screw up. [49:22] >> I won't. [49:22] >> Okay. [49:23] >> I won't. I promise I won't. [49:26] >> We've been we've been burnt in the [49:27] recent past on it. [49:30] You guys are making me cry and I don't [49:31] even know half of you. Close to [49:32] [laughter] you. Almost all of you. [49:34] >> Okay. [49:37] >> Thank you. [49:38] >> Other [49:40] uh other questions. [49:44] All right. Becky, call the role. [49:48] >> Bernander. [49:49] >> Hi. [49:50] >> Rwley. [49:50] >> Hi. [49:51] >> Dun. I [49:54] >> Green. [49:58] » Hi. [50:01] Blinkert. [50:02] >> No, [50:04] >> I [50:07] » passes. Thank you guys. [50:13] » No, you're good. Thank you. You're good. [50:19] » Discussion and possible action [50:21] reconsideration of operator license [50:23] application for Shaya Krebs. [50:30] Hi, my name is Shaya Cubs. Um, so I also [50:33] work at 1873. [50:37] Um, it's just me and my son. I'm I take [50:40] a pay cut when I don't have my liquor [50:42] license. Um, I filled what I did wrong [50:46] is I put I was assuming from Wisconsin. [50:49] I had no felonies. Um, I have one felony [50:52] from three years ago in Florida and I [50:55] have one. Now, my cases they're um [51:00] concluded and I just have a it is a [51:02] felony, but it's a bail jumping. No drug [51:04] charges, no anything like that. Um [51:08] so once I get my liquor license, I can [51:12] pay raise and then I can my son better. [51:16] Um just asking to reconsider. I've [51:19] really turned my life around um when [51:22] everything I'm supposed to. on [51:24] probation, but I'm complying with that. [51:26] I've never had any um [51:29] anything like that. [51:46] » Um I understand and appreciate you [51:48] coming. Um, but I'm in the same boat [51:50] where the rules are the rules. We have [51:54] reasons and rules [51:56] to I understand the issue with the [51:59] paperwork, but a felony from 23 in [52:02] Florida. Um, and another pending for [52:06] maintaining drug trafficking. Um, [52:09] >> that's all concluded. I I was not found [52:11] guilty of that. I just Yeah. So, I just [52:14] have the bail jumping. Okay. Yeah, [52:16] that's [52:17] >> okay. [52:20] Still, I appreciate that you've gotten [52:22] your life turned around, but I take [52:23] bartender licenses and being in that [52:26] position of having the ability to make [52:28] good choices for the rest of our [52:30] citizens. Very important. [52:36] » Person Bernander, [52:39] >> so you said you're on probation. [52:42] This that's for the methamphetamine and [52:44] the drug paraphernalia. [52:45] >> No, that that was from Florida. [52:48] That's That was [52:49] >> When was that? [52:52] >> 2023 with methamphetamine in Florida. [52:54] >> Yeah, that was Yeah. [52:57] >> That pretty hard drug. [53:03] » Yeah. [53:05] Be kind of a difficult decision. [53:18] person green. [53:20] >> I think this one's a little more [53:21] difficult for me because [53:25] previous [53:30] » Yeah. 2026. [53:35] » Um, [53:36] >> but I wasn't found guilty. [53:40] >> It's that wasn't was updated. My case [53:42] was concluded the beginning of August. [53:53] I just looked at uh [53:58] that key charge was read in [54:07] may be able to explain [54:10] I [54:25] does say charge dismissed but read in [54:33] drug trafficking please [54:38] jumping [55:24] All the person here. [55:25] >> Can I ask what the probation is for? [55:27] Which which offense? [55:29] >> Felony bail jumping. [55:30] >> And how long is the probation for? [55:32] >> Years. [55:38] » And how long are you into this now? [56:00] I carry a bartender's license and I [56:03] guess if [56:06] Mr. Green said that if you were like a [56:08] couple years outside of the probation, [56:16] » I could understand. But when you're just [56:18] right into starting the probation, [56:22] » I don't I don't I wouldn't recommend. [56:26] And again and again my my problem again [56:29] is that [56:40] I [56:46] Green. [56:46] >> I make a motion to deny this [56:49] application. [56:54] » Do we need to? [56:55] >> Yes, a motion is needed [57:03] » for the same reasons from the initial [57:04] denial. [57:09] » Bernander second. [57:12] >> Any further discussion? [57:16] Becky, color roll, please. [57:17] >> We're voting to deny her appeal. [57:19] >> Correct. [57:22] >> Becky, color roll, please. [57:23] >> Ryley, [57:23] >> I [57:25] >> Dan. [57:26] >> Hi, [57:27] >> Green. [57:27] >> Hi, [57:29] >> Linkert. [57:29] >> Hi, [57:30] >> Tranto. [57:31] >> Hi, [57:32] >> Wel [57:35] Bernander. [57:38] » Thank you. [57:43] discussion and possible action. Change [57:45] normal meeting date of Tuesday, November [57:47] 2020 20 sorry, November 24th, 2026 to [57:51] Monday, November 23rd, 2026. [57:54] This is for budget passing the week of [57:57] Thanksgiving. [58:01] » Person Berner, I'll move to approve the [58:03] change of date. [58:05] Hello, [58:06] >> personel. [58:08] Any further discussion? [58:11] Changing. [58:12] >> Call the roll, please. [58:13] >> Donny, [58:14] >> hi. [58:14] >> Green. [58:15] >> Hi. [58:16] >> Slinkert. [58:16] >> Hi. [58:17] >> Trantow. [58:18] >> Hi. [58:18] >> Wetszel. [58:19] >> Hi. [58:19] >> Bernander. [58:20] >> Hi. [58:21] >> Cwley. [58:21] >> Hi. [58:22] >> Passes. So, put that on your calendar, [58:24] please. [58:28] » Uh, department head reports. Q&A with [58:30] department heads. [58:52] I'll ask a question. [58:53] >> Yes. [58:54] >> Prove I did my homework. [58:55] >> Um I have a question on the you have [58:58] shifts A [59:01] are those what what kind of shifts are [59:02] they working? Are they like out like [59:04] second third or is it [59:11] just three cohorts? [59:14] Okay, [59:16] >> I was trying to correlate some things. [59:24] » Other questions for our department [59:26] heads? [59:31] » I was going to ask one otherwise. Uh I [59:33] was going to ask Debbie. Uh so I know [59:34] that we have the our big read book [59:36] coming up with uh the America's 250th [59:39] Women in the Revolutionary War. Do we [59:42] know how many people have signed up for [59:43] that and like what the usual numbers for that is [1:00:13] Other [1:00:37] questions? [1:00:46] discussion common council and committee [1:00:48] process. [1:00:50] >> Everyone, I'll jump on here to kick off [1:00:53] the conversation. [1:00:55] Um, for the last couple years, the [1:00:57] common council has had a temporary [1:00:59] resolution governing how the standing [1:01:01] committee common council process works. [1:01:03] Uh the prior resolution that was in [1:01:05] place um uh created a council kind of [1:01:09] driven process. Two meetings per month, [1:01:11] items started at the council um unless [1:01:14] otherwise required by an ordinance or [1:01:16] others um statute and then um discussion [1:01:20] and action could take place at the [1:01:22] council level um through the process. On [1:01:25] the memo tried to make a little bit of a [1:01:26] flowchart that kind of outlaid a process [1:01:29] an item would follow. Uh then earlier [1:01:33] this year um cuz that resolution [1:01:35] expired, we had a conversation about it [1:01:37] and adopted a new one that um took the [1:01:41] very similar type approach the end of [1:01:43] the day and has one council meeting per [1:01:46] month versus two. Originally we had a [1:01:49] discussion about general items like this [1:01:51] on the front end. We've moved to the [1:01:53] back of the agenda and some other items [1:01:55] around. So now it's one agenda packet [1:01:58] and items start the council discussion [1:02:00] and action unless otherwise referred to [1:02:03] committee then ultimately come back to [1:02:04] the council. So we're here tonight [1:02:07] because this um resolution was temporary [1:02:09] last six months which is October. So [1:02:12] check in and see how you like this [1:02:14] process um and what direction you may [1:02:17] have for staff as we work to bring back [1:02:19] something for October to help navigate [1:02:22] what comes forward from staff's [1:02:24] perspective. are happy to work any way [1:02:26] you guys wish. Um the one meeting a [1:02:28] month does give us a substantial [1:02:31] administrative [1:02:32] savings in terms of time in a given [1:02:35] packing week takes about a half or 50% [1:02:38] of someone's time to prep and push a [1:02:41] council packet out. So um for us it is a [1:02:45] time saving allows you to work on other [1:02:47] items that we bring forward. But if you [1:02:49] guys wish to go back to two meetings or [1:02:50] a different structure, happy to take [1:02:52] your feedback um and bring it forward in [1:02:55] October. [1:03:03] » Person Cwley, [1:03:04] >> I don't like changing things back and [1:03:06] forth. I'm fine keeping it the way it [1:03:07] is. [laughter] [1:03:12] » Want to go back? I don't want to change [1:03:13] it. [cough] [1:03:15] [clears throat] [1:03:17] Other thing to point out this resolution [1:03:19] does did it combine finance, [1:03:20] administration and personnel into one [1:03:22] committee or HR into one committee. Um [1:03:24] so that's a part of it as well. [1:03:31] » Um I think that we ask you guys to do a [1:03:34] lot with a little um and if having one [1:03:38] meeting helps alleviate burden and we [1:03:42] can get everything done in one [1:03:45] I like it. I also get more done because [1:03:48] I prepare once for what we're going to [1:03:50] talk about rather than multiple times a [1:03:52] month. I like it. [1:03:57] » Well, person Bernander, [1:03:58] >> I feel like we're losing a little bit of [1:03:59] touch with the department heads by a [1:04:03] month, but I understand [1:04:06] the the struggle the balance here. [1:04:10] I guess that's my feedback. [1:04:13] I guess my my question when you say that [1:04:14] we we lose like touch with department [1:04:16] heads, do you mean like we have less [1:04:17] time to question them or like just that [1:04:19] we don't see them as often or like I [1:04:21] guess what do you mean by that? [1:04:23] >> Yeah, I miss them. No, [laughter] [1:04:27] » no, I it's it's you know things do come [1:04:29] up and need timely answers and so I [1:04:32] think that's another part that we're [1:04:34] missing. [1:04:36] Quick feedback, but [1:04:39] I don't know. Not that you're going to [1:04:40] go, you know, rogue or anything, do [1:04:44] anything crazy while we're gone for 30 [1:04:47] days out of 31, but [1:04:50] I do feel like having more contact [1:04:53] creates better rapport and uh better [1:04:57] check-ins. But I understand building [1:04:59] packet is the time. [1:05:04] It's a a resource [1:05:07] losing out on [1:05:12] the resolution though or the way we're [1:05:14] operating does allow like if something [1:05:16] did need to get discussed even and I [1:05:18] think that's I think we're all open to [1:05:21] if we need to have a meeting next week [1:05:23] or we need to have a meeting the week [1:05:24] like if we need a meeting like we should [1:05:27] have a meeting but I don't like the idea [1:05:29] of having two on the calendar just for [1:05:30] the sake of having two on the calendar [1:05:32] either right so it's like do we have one [1:05:34] on knowing we could have another like [1:05:37] more impromptu one versus scheduling two [1:05:40] when we really only needed one. [1:05:47] The good thing is it's temporary. So [1:05:49] let's say something big happened or [1:05:52] somebody new came on, [1:05:55] I don't know, you just never know. So [1:05:57] it's good to have [1:06:00] in case [1:06:02] we all start to disagree with somebody [1:06:04] or something. [laughter] [1:06:06] I mean, we all pay taxes and everybody's [1:06:09] big complaint in the in the community is [1:06:11] we pay too much taxes [1:06:14] and you guys have very little to work [1:06:16] with. [laughter] [1:06:18] I don't know. We're supposed to [1:06:19] represent those people who are paying. [1:06:22] We should have [1:06:26] connection. [1:06:30] I'm doing a nice segment video segment [1:06:32] coming up for the budget on where [1:06:34] exactly tax money is going because that [1:06:37] way when people say we're spending too [1:06:38] much on this like well here's how many [1:06:41] dollars going to police here's how many [1:06:42] are going to fire here's how many are [1:06:44] going to public works and parks so that [1:06:45] way like well if if we were to remove [1:06:48] this you'd lose like garbage if we [1:06:50] remove this you'd lose whatever so that [1:06:52] way people can see exactly where [1:06:54] everything's going [1:06:57] like a lot of people don't realize that [1:06:58] they they think it's all going somewhere [1:07:02] a lot of people Becky if I'm wrong let [1:07:04] me But I don't think a lot of people [1:07:06] come and request copies of our budget to [1:07:08] look through. So [laughter] [1:07:10] >> that'd be true. That'd be true. [cough] [1:07:12] >> So I just figure like [1:07:14] >> it's on the website. They might It is [1:07:16] right. [1:07:16] >> They might. [1:07:18] >> Fortunately, it's not. [1:07:22] » So what I can do going into next month [1:07:24] is I can work to bring forward um an [1:07:28] ordinance that that governs this and at [1:07:31] any time the council can bring it back [1:07:32] to an agenda. can amend it in the [1:07:34] future. Um, I think our city attorney [1:07:38] would want us to work our way out from a [1:07:40] temporary resolution to have something [1:07:42] just that's in place, but there's [1:07:44] nothing to say an older person or the [1:07:45] mayor can't call it back in a future [1:07:47] meeting and have changes made. [1:07:53] » I mean, it's it's to have something [1:07:57] temporary resolution. [1:08:01] So I think it seems to me that [1:08:08] working well [1:08:14] » sure I can bring attempt to extend it [1:08:16] and then later this year we can [1:08:25] next or meeting. Okay, [1:08:30] got it. [1:08:32] Sounds good to me. [1:08:35] >> Else I got what I need. Thank you [1:08:37] everyone. [1:08:40] >> Discussion electronic mobility devices. [1:08:43] >> Hey. Um, so Justin, I think I emailed. [1:08:47] >> Perfect. So, I just wanted to touch base [1:08:49] with you guys because, uh, ebikes. So, [1:08:52] that's a thing. Um, that's what I'll say [1:08:55] right now. When when Justin and uh Sam [1:08:58] and I were at the chief's executive [1:09:00] conference, there was quite a bit of [1:09:02] debate about this. Uh I don't know if [1:09:04] you guys saw the latest edition from the [1:09:06] municipality, but there was a segment in [1:09:08] there about ebikes. And I know that some [1:09:11] people have brought up different things. [1:09:13] And so I have kind of talked a little [1:09:15] bit to um administration. I've talked a [1:09:17] little bit uh to you know, Chief Klafky [1:09:20] a little bit about, you know, his [1:09:21] thoughts on it. And so I kind of wanted [1:09:23] to very briefly line out like what [1:09:26] options we do have versus what options [1:09:28] we don't have and see kind of where you [1:09:31] want to go from there and that way we [1:09:32] can get Chief Hassi and um Chief [1:09:35] Klafky's kind of input right here. So [1:09:38] one of the things that the league was [1:09:41] telling us that we should try to stay [1:09:42] away from is anything where you're just [1:09:44] saying nope we're not going to allow [1:09:46] these just ban them. Right? So they've [1:09:48] advised us like there's regulations here [1:09:51] in state statutes. So don't try to sit [1:09:53] and prohibit and certain things here. Um [1:09:57] and then trying to create age [1:09:59] requirements. They they've also told us [1:10:01] to not go for that. That also creates a [1:10:04] issue for police because if you're [1:10:06] seeing somebody riding an ebike like are [1:10:09] they 15, are they 17 like that if you [1:10:12] try to throw an age number on that that [1:10:14] becomes kind of a nightmare to enforce. [1:10:17] um if you're driving by there and then [1:10:19] trying to license some of these ebikes, [1:10:21] they've also kind of steered us away [1:10:22] from that um because with some of these [1:10:26] regulations that are in the state code [1:10:30] um those might get challenged in court [1:10:32] and might not hold up. So they've [1:10:34] generally recommended uh we avoid those [1:10:37] options there on the right. So that's [1:10:40] their guidance for us. Um, one of the [1:10:44] things that we have seen other [1:10:45] municipalities do that are totally [1:10:50] okay that have worked. So up like Nino [1:10:52] Manasha up in the Fox Valley, a lot of [1:10:56] um those cities have banned things like [1:10:59] stunt driving, trick driving, towing [1:11:01] riders, things like that. So anything [1:11:04] where you're trying to have unsafe [1:11:06] riding and they have their definitions [1:11:08] for that, that's something that is okay. [1:11:11] We also have the power to decide where [1:11:13] we want these. So we can say they need [1:11:16] to operate in the roadway. We can say [1:11:18] they need to be on the sidewalk. Uh we [1:11:21] can say they can be in park trails or [1:11:23] they can't be in park trails. So we have [1:11:26] options on where we would like to see [1:11:27] these. Um we could require helmets. Um [1:11:32] if you're riding one of these, that is [1:11:34] an option. Um I know that that can be [1:11:37] problematic. Um, if somebody repeatedly [1:11:40] violates, we we could look at a possible [1:11:43] impound. Obviously, I'd like to defer to [1:11:46] kind of Chief Klafky's um thoughts on [1:11:48] that. If we have someone repeatedly [1:11:51] violating um something like that, then [1:11:54] we could look at at that. But, um I I [1:11:57] just figured I'd bring this up so that [1:11:58] we could have a full council [1:11:59] conversation. we get input from police [1:12:02] and fire chiefs on kind of what they [1:12:04] think because some of this enforcement [1:12:06] might be difficult or you know in terms [1:12:08] of like EMS related stuff. I know that a [1:12:11] lot of mayors in the Milwaukee area have [1:12:13] good relationships with Children's [1:12:14] Hospital and there's just been a [1:12:16] insanely [1:12:18] rapid rise in the amount of injuries [1:12:20] Children's is seeing because of ebikes. [1:12:23] Um, and I think it's also important to [1:12:25] note too that [1:12:27] there's limits to, you know, government [1:12:29] action, too, because a lot of, you know, [1:12:31] kids and a lot of people that work on [1:12:33] these, they can do modifications to [1:12:34] these things to make them go faster. Um, [1:12:37] so we we do have options. That's not, [1:12:40] you know, going to be everything, of [1:12:42] course, but I wanted to just kind of [1:12:44] have this conversation. I've had a few [1:12:47] residents that have reached out to me. I [1:12:48] know a few of you guys have also reached [1:12:50] out to me with some ideas. There's some [1:12:52] good ordinances from like the village of [1:12:54] Weston, from uh, you know, Manasha and [1:12:56] Nenina that that have some of these. So, [1:12:58] there's different options. Um, and I [1:13:00] just kind of wanted to kind of give you [1:13:02] guys the opportunity. What have you [1:13:04] heard? What things would you like to [1:13:05] see? And then questions for the chiefs [1:13:08] if they wanted to get their input. Um [1:13:16] other person done he [1:13:17] >> you know that they uh are at the skate [1:13:21] park with some of them [1:13:26] » look into signage skate [1:13:34] they're not a skateboard so I've seen [1:13:37] him riding around on the skate park um [1:13:39] and also on the splash pad in that area. [1:13:42] And I just if we can look into signage [1:13:45] that they know that they can't use [1:14:04] regular bikes are not allowed. [1:14:19] other slicker. [1:14:20] >> And so are we specifically only talking [1:14:22] about actual ebikes right now or are we [1:14:24] talking about all things E? [1:14:27] >> I [laughter] think I I think I think [1:14:29] before that I just kind of wanted to get [1:14:30] a temperature before because it we could [1:14:32] if we go down a rabbit hole of well [1:14:33] which E do we want to talk about? Like I [1:14:36] think we should first like take a look [1:14:38] at what options do we kind of prefer. [1:14:41] >> So we're talking about ebikes, the ones [1:14:43] with pedals, classes one, two, and three [1:14:45] that the state has already defined for [1:14:47] us and these are our limits. So in my [1:14:51] mind, the only one that we should [1:14:53] probably worry about is number two, [1:14:55] which goes to like where they can be, [1:14:57] but that should be consistent with where [1:14:59] bicycles can be. um is my understanding [1:15:03] from what I've read. [1:15:05] >> Well, the person Bernander, [1:15:06] >> I'd like two maybe three things. One, [1:15:09] when I walk my dog early in the morning, [1:15:11] there's one that whizzes by me, got no [1:15:13] lights on, so I think they should have [1:15:14] lights on when it's dark out. And two, I [1:15:18] don't want them on the trails because [1:15:20] they go super fast and my dog's going to [1:15:22] get run over by it [1:15:25] and she's stupid, so it's going to [1:15:26] happen. [laughter] [1:15:28] >> But wouldn't that be the same thing for [1:15:30] bikes? themsel like the lights would be [1:15:32] right. [1:15:33] >> They go 30 miles an hour on the path [1:15:35] though. I mean, and they're silent. So, [1:15:37] there's no warning when they're behind [1:15:38] you. Unlike a bicycle that's maybe going [1:15:41] 12, 15 miles an hour. This thing's going [1:15:43] twice as fast with no light and my dog Barks. [1:15:48] >> I have a litany of things. [1:15:50] >> Um, [laughter] [1:15:52] >> so, so Fondelac and Westbend. Um, if you [1:15:56] haven't seen, I think I sent you [1:15:57] Westbends. It's really good. Um, no [1:16:01] passengers. No passengers. No passengers on bikes, [1:16:04] scooters, anything. No passengers. It's [1:16:06] built for one. It gets one. Done. No [1:16:09] passengers. That's going to stop kids [1:16:10] getting hurt. The second thing, they [1:16:13] take your bike. In Westben, is it [1:16:15] Westbend or Fondelac? If you're in [1:16:17] violation and you're a child, they take [1:16:20] your bike and a guardian has to get it. [1:16:22] It's it's a oneandone, at least [1:16:23] according to their ordinance. Um, I [1:16:26] think helmet requirements [1:16:29] would do a lot just to keep kids off of [1:16:31] them because helmets aren't cool if [1:16:32] you're a kid. Um, I think helmets under [1:16:34] 16 should be mandatory. Um, if that can [1:16:38] happen. Um, but that falls against the [1:16:41] sort of age requirements thing. Um, as [1:16:44] far as where they can and can't ride. I [1:16:46] get to see downtown every day. I don't [1:16:48] think there should be any ridden bicycle [1:16:50] traffic, motorized or otherwise, between [1:16:53] um Lock Street and Adams and Conan and [1:16:57] um [1:16:59] I guess it would be Cook. I think it [1:17:02] should be walking in that area. In the [1:17:04] downtown area, no riding your bicycle in [1:17:07] any way. [1:17:09] >> Is that [1:17:12] » Yeah, [1:17:13] >> in the bid district there's no bikes. [1:17:16] Well, [1:17:16] >> well, [1:17:18] are there signs up the [1:17:20] >> No, [1:17:21] >> I'm just because I see a lot of people [1:17:23] doing it. A lot of lot of kids, [1:17:24] especially this time of year. Uh, [1:17:26] emotos. [1:17:29] » We're talking about just [1:17:30] >> they can't run. Well, okay. Well, I'm on [1:17:33] it. Um, but the helmets, uh, no [1:17:36] passengers. I think, uh, if you're [1:17:39] operating under pedal power, um, [1:17:42] sidewalk and trails is okay. That's my [1:17:43] opinion. If you're operating under pedal [1:17:45] power, if you're on throttle or a or if [1:17:48] you're on throttle, you've got to be on [1:17:50] the road. So, for example, if an officer [1:17:52] was driving and they saw somebody going [1:17:54] up, maybe under the train tracks and [1:17:55] they were on the sidewalk without moving [1:17:57] their legs. [1:18:02] Um, so pedal power gets you on the [1:18:05] sidewalks. If you're going to do [1:18:06] anything else, you got to be on the [1:18:07] street, but it's still got to be legal. [1:18:09] and deferring to the other laws. You're [1:18:12] supposed to have a b a light on your [1:18:13] bicycle anyway. That's just a that's [1:18:16] already a thing. So that's [1:18:19] >> Yeah. Well, and you'd think the ebike [1:18:21] would just have like a USB is it's just [1:18:23] there. [1:18:25] >> Yeah, [1:18:27] >> um [1:18:29] >> can't take a picture, [1:18:31] >> of course. Yeah, banning the stunt [1:18:33] driving and all of that. But yeah, those [1:18:35] are my my things. [1:18:37] All person [1:18:38] >> I like the idea like how we have the [1:18:40] semis they need to follow a route that [1:18:42] is yellow posts. I think we should do [1:18:45] that to the bikes. Need to have a route [1:18:48] mapped around town [1:18:50] off the city streets, follow the street [1:18:53] rules. And [1:18:55] >> I I guess my my question I think to [1:18:58] Chief Klafky would be because I think my curiosity is how easy some of that [1:19:04] would be doing a force because my [1:19:05] concern is cuz like I have to teach [1:19:07] teenagers all day and that's hard enough [1:19:09] but trying to get them to like because [1:19:13] if we start having well you can ride [1:19:15] this on the sidewalks here here and here [1:19:17] but you can't do it there there and [1:19:19] there I think that becomes kind of a [1:19:21] nightmare to try to help people [1:19:24] understand where I it might be easier if [1:19:26] it's like it's all or nothing, right? [1:19:28] Like we're either putting them on the [1:19:29] sidewalks, [1:19:32] you know, here and that's it because if [1:19:35] the more that you try to make exceptions [1:19:37] or say, well, here they can't hear the worse that's going to be, I think, [1:19:41] for everybody. Um, so I guess [1:19:45] that's kind of what what I'm looking at. [1:19:47] >> Well, I don't think the route would [1:19:48] work. So the reason a semi route works [1:19:50] is because they're passing through our [1:19:52] city. So I don't know how you would [1:19:54] enforce like if I don't live on the bike [1:19:56] route, I have to still get to the bike [1:19:58] route. So what am I going to do? I'm [1:19:59] going to ride my bike. So then you're [1:20:01] still going to have people riding their [1:20:02] bikes not on the bike route because you [1:20:03] have to get to the bike route versus a [1:20:05] semi route which is for thoroughfare [1:20:08] purposes. So I don't know that that [1:20:10] would work. But I I mean I agree. it. I [1:20:13] like the if you're going to ride your [1:20:15] bike um with your own feet, you can ride [1:20:18] it on the sidewalk and otherwise you [1:20:19] have to ride it in the street. If you're [1:20:21] going to use assist, if you're going to [1:20:22] be moving the speed of traffic, you [1:20:23] should be with the traffic. [1:20:31] » That probably does get harder, too. [1:20:34] >> Yeah, that gets really tough. [1:20:36] >> Oh, person green. Um well I guess my [1:20:39] sorry my question would be for the chief [1:20:42] um bike helmets [1:20:45] we don't [1:20:51] I didn't think we did but we do stop and [1:20:54] talk to kids that do it if they're not [1:20:56] wearing a helmet you guys will stop and [1:20:58] hey [1:21:03] yeah I know do they do the same thing [1:21:04] with like the ebikes try to teach Um second thing is is with the lights. [1:21:10] There is state or state law that they [1:21:13] have to have working lights on. [1:21:18] Um I guess that's my [1:21:22] doubt who that is so that get them. [1:21:26] But I I struggle with where the ebikes [1:21:31] should be [1:21:32] because [1:21:35] on the sidewalk, yes, they're going fast [1:21:37] and they're going somebody is walking on [1:21:40] the road. Now you're putting them with [1:21:41] traffic. That's where I [1:21:44] car is much bigger than a bike and they [1:21:46] don't look they just turn [1:21:49] front of a car or a truck. So [1:21:52] struggle with where to put them. [1:21:56] Oh, the person crawly. [1:21:57] >> We don't have bike lanes. [1:21:58] >> The ATV, UTV. I don't think we were able [1:22:00] to limit where they travel either. So, I [1:22:02] don't think that's that's a non-starter. [1:22:05] Um, I do think we should impound the [1:22:07] bikes for reckless and danger dangerous [1:22:10] riding and mandate that they have lights [1:22:13] on them. Don't have a light, you're [1:22:14] going to lose your bike. [1:22:16] You get a a warning. [1:22:22] But we do have bike lanes. [1:22:25] >> We do. [1:22:26] >> Yeah. On [1:22:27] >> Elbert Street. I have a bike lane my [1:22:30] house. [1:22:30] >> One street. [1:22:31] >> No, that's not the only street. There [1:22:32] are other streets. There's [1:22:33] >> opponent or Carol does not. That's so [1:22:36] they'll be weaving in and out. [1:22:38] >> But they do have we do have bike lanes [1:22:39] throughout the town and they are still [1:22:42] riding on the sidewalk even with that [1:22:44] bike lane right there. [1:22:46] But I mean, if they're able to do 25 [1:22:50] miles an hour, then I agree they should [1:22:52] be on the road. But if [1:22:55] instead of on the sidewalk [1:22:59] » and it's just common sense, like we're [1:23:02] telling saying something about the kids [1:23:04] being common sense that um they need to, [1:23:08] you know, watch out for people. I think [1:23:10] as car drivers, we should also use our [1:23:13] common sense that if we see somebody [1:23:15] going down the road, we know that we [1:23:17] need to either pull over, avoid them, [1:23:20] because it's not just the kids on the [1:23:21] bike, it's not just the adults on the [1:23:22] bike, it's also people driving cars or [1:23:24] people walking on the sidewalk. It's [1:23:26] everybody. [1:23:27] >> So, do that. But we know that a lot of [1:23:29] motorists don't pay attention. That's [1:23:32] the problem. [1:23:32] >> It doesn't matter what they're driving. [1:23:34] >> I I see it. I see it all the time out on [1:23:36] the road, [1:23:38] >> living during the summer. and they don't [1:23:40] pay attention to a big truck, let alone [1:23:42] a bike. Um, but that brings another [1:23:45] question for the chief. Um, if they're [1:23:48] out violating like road rules, I know [1:23:51] you're supposed to use like hand signals [1:23:53] if you're turning or whatever and [1:23:56] looking, but if they're violating any [1:23:58] hand or any road rules when they're on [1:24:01] the road, not stopping for stop signs, [1:24:04] stuff like that. Is there any ticket [1:24:05] process or anything that [1:24:12] » I see them all the time. They they blow [1:24:14] right through stop signs. [1:24:16] state [1:24:17] >> or state laws all that they could. [1:24:26] » I see it all the time that they bike [1:24:28] will just blow right through a stop [1:24:30] sign. It's like you didn't even look [1:24:31] either direction. [1:24:32] >> So, but and I guess to that point, [1:24:34] that's my issue with them being on the [1:24:35] sidewalks. I think when they're on the [1:24:38] sidewalk, they think they somehow don't [1:24:40] have to follow the rest of the rules of [1:24:41] the road. So, if they come through a [1:24:43] sidewalk, they're not really by the stop [1:24:45] sign. That's for the cars. Like, I [1:24:47] actually had a kid in my neighborhood [1:24:49] tell me that they didn't have to use [1:24:51] signals because they don't have them [1:24:52] like a car does. And I'm like, then you [1:24:55] if you don't know the rules, you really [1:24:57] shouldn't be riding on the Yes. Didn't [1:24:59] know that, you know, and it's like they [1:25:00] don't think they have to stop at those [1:25:02] stop signs. And like and I know that's [1:25:04] both all of the devices, but for ebikes, [1:25:07] if they're to me, if they're in the [1:25:08] street, they should be more cautious [1:25:10] because they should recognize that's [1:25:12] they're less safe, right? And they [1:25:14] should be following the stop. Like it [1:25:16] makes it should make them feel like a [1:25:18] vehicle to follow the appropriate [1:25:20] things, not just off the sidewalk, [1:25:22] across the road, right into the next [1:25:24] one. Because my my understanding from [1:25:27] what what I have read, my understanding [1:25:28] is that unless we specifically say these [1:25:31] can go on the sidewalk, it defaults to [1:25:34] these can only be on the road for [1:25:35] ebikes. That is my understanding. And [1:25:39] if I'm wrong, that means we because part [1:25:43] of why we we haven't I don't think have [1:25:45] pushed that as much is because wanted to [1:25:48] have this conversation and but if we [1:25:51] want them to be allowed on sidewalks, [1:25:54] then we would need to, I believe, make [1:25:57] an an ordinance change for that. [1:25:58] Otherwise, my understanding is state law [1:26:00] defaults these two. They they're on the [1:26:02] road. [1:26:28] Never mind. [1:26:32] Typically, they're allowed on [1:26:44] Currently [1:26:51] they're not allowed [1:26:54] [clears throat] [1:26:59] over nextto. [laughter] [1:27:04] » Um what are some of the successes? This [1:27:07] is really just for the chiefs. What are [1:27:10] some of the successes that you guys have [1:27:12] been seeing through, you know, the [1:27:14] public safety side of these? So, not [1:27:17] just enforcement, but also citizen [1:27:19] safety um from, you know, your peers. [1:27:22] >> Yeah. So we haven't had too many knock [1:27:25] on the thick wood that we haven't [1:27:32] really comes down to, you know, guys [1:27:34] trying to balance [1:27:41] school. [1:27:44] You guys already talked a little bit [1:27:49] trying to ban it one. [1:28:03] Some of the things that I've seen is [1:28:09] part [1:28:11] we really didn't have any issues. We've [1:28:12] had ebikes for years. We [1:28:15] But it's popping up. Mostly what you're [1:28:17] seeing now is about the motor. [1:28:20] >> That's where your concerns. [1:28:28] » Those over 30, that's a completely [1:28:30] different story. That's [1:28:34] so the e- motorbikes that you guys are [1:28:35] seeing is what's really generating. [1:28:39] Not so much ebikes. [1:28:43] Um emotals most municipalities are [1:28:46] banning them [1:28:50] emot [1:28:51] They put them on put them only on [1:28:53] private property, [1:28:56] but they're not allowed on street [1:28:59] leg. They were going back and forth [1:29:01] about that wanted to allow them. [1:29:08] That gets really tricky when you start [1:29:10] put on it. [1:29:20] So easy things we can do [1:29:24] ban an e- motor bike. We can take care [1:29:26] of that. The e the ebikes themselves [1:29:29] class one two and three [1:29:33] bikes [1:29:38] bicycle here. have any [1:29:42] realize on that. [1:29:46] It should be allowed on the [1:29:50] [laughter] [1:29:53] It's really hard to tell. Like you say, [1:29:55] they modify stuff. It's hard to tell [1:29:57] when a bike passes [1:30:02] because of the speeds. [1:30:04] They're coasting down a hill and they're [1:30:06] not using [1:30:10] So many things that [1:30:15] first hurdle is where you want [1:30:23] sidewalk use. agree. [1:30:28] Do we really want kids that are [1:30:37] » Yeah. I I I think the from what I've [1:30:40] looked at and from what I've talked to [1:30:42] with some of the mayors that I looked [1:30:43] at, the thing that I think is is a [1:30:45] pretty easy thing to do is kind of like [1:30:47] what Alder person Tranto was saying, [1:30:49] like the towing riders or getting [1:30:51] passengers, that kind of thing. That's pretty straightforward. That's a [1:30:55] simple thing to do, right? Um because [1:30:57] then you're not trying to fight helmets. [1:30:59] You're not trying to fight ages. Um and [1:31:01] then if you want to impound a, you know, [1:31:04] egregious violations, [1:31:06] you know, I I think those are relatively [1:31:08] easy. And then personally for me, like I understand the the concern about being [1:31:14] on sidewalks, but being I know, you [1:31:17] know, we have kids going, you know, on [1:31:19] Slifer on New Pinery getting to school [1:31:21] with these, I really don't want [1:31:23] elementary school kids that are going to [1:31:26] be on New Pinery Road. I think that [1:31:28] would be a a big problem. Even Sliper in [1:31:31] the mornings can get relatively um busy. [1:31:33] So, personally, I don't have an issue if [1:31:36] they're on the levy trail or on these [1:31:38] multi-use paths or or sidewalks. Um, I [1:31:41] would I'd be a little more concerned [1:31:42] with young kids going down new pinery [1:31:45] because the second we say you can't be [1:31:46] on any sidewalks, new pinery, I think, [1:31:50] becomes a nightmare. Um, that's kind of [1:31:52] the way I I see it. So if if I was [1:31:55] looking at it, I would say like you want [1:31:56] to ban the passengers or stunt or [1:31:59] whatever towing people because that's [1:32:01] something that was happening is it take [1:32:02] rope and they'd be towing like none of [1:32:04] that, right? Um and then saying formally [1:32:08] yes or no to sidewalks and then [1:32:11] impoundment I think would be [1:32:15] >> other person Crowley [1:32:16] >> might be a Jesse question. I'm not sure. [1:32:18] um your situation. A 12-year-old's [1:32:21] flying down the road with no headlights [1:32:22] on and runs into Kyle. Who's liable for [1:32:24] that? [1:32:25] >> The dog. [laughter] [1:32:30] » The parents of the bike owner be be [1:32:32] liable for it or is it going to be [1:32:34] processed like well this is a juvenile [1:32:35] kid and we're not going to do anything? [1:32:39] >> Possible that they're [1:32:47] Starting [1:32:54] to get a little [1:32:55] >> I know things breaking, [1:32:56] >> but I mean Kyle definitely [1:33:04] » he's wearing all black. [1:33:06] >> You're Are you talking about C? Because [1:33:08] he could still civily sue for whatever [1:33:10] and then [1:33:11] >> Right. I mean [1:33:21] I I guess as a community if we're going [1:33:23] to allow them more and more um and not [1:33:26] really have an age limit on there, [1:33:27] Wisconsin bike fed does have an ebike [1:33:30] safety course that you can take. Also, [1:33:32] AAA also has online courses that allow [1:33:35] you to um learn more in regards to [1:33:38] safety on these ebikes. [1:33:46] Well, if you do the ebike, it's online [1:33:49] and and then also if we wanted to do a [1:33:53] program, there is also a bike rodeo, [1:33:56] which is where you can have somebody [1:33:58] come in. Kids can come in with their [1:34:00] bikes or whatever, go over the course, [1:34:02] have a pamphlet or something, and let [1:34:06] them know what the rules are going to be [1:34:07] or ordinances are going to be in this um [1:34:09] community, whether they're kids or [1:34:11] adults, and what they need to do. I [1:34:14] mean, if if we're going to allow it, we [1:34:16] might as well welcome it and let them [1:34:18] know that, you know, we do have rules [1:34:20] and stipulations. And if we're going to [1:34:22] tell them that they can't do this, then [1:34:24] we need to explain to them why and what [1:34:26] they can do. [1:34:29] be safe. [1:34:30] >> All the person. [1:34:31] >> Yeah. If I can I address the emoto stuff [1:34:33] now. Somebody moved on to pass bikes. Um [1:34:37] so um that I think we should ban them [1:34:40] entirely. I also think we should ban the [1:34:43] electric scooters um that the kids [1:34:46] terrorize, as far as I know, every [1:34:48] neighborhood in the city with um on and [1:34:50] off of curbs, into the street, back on [1:34:53] the curb, in the middle of the street. [1:34:55] Um I know other communities have done [1:34:58] that. Um I get that there's I an ebike I [1:35:01] can understand that it's being used as a [1:35:03] transportation device for people that [1:35:05] are not you know don't have another [1:35:07] option or it's a convenient option. I [1:35:11] think the motorcycles the ones that [1:35:13] classify as motorcycles if that's the c [1:35:16] if it's a cost issue and the person can [1:35:18] afford that and they want to drive it [1:35:20] they should be 16 in license. So I think [1:35:21] that is already covered but I do not [1:35:24] think we should be allowing like the mo [1:35:27] little motori any little motorized thing [1:35:29] other than like the mobility devices for [1:35:34] people who have um disabled type. [1:35:38] Weston has a very strong I loved [1:35:41] Weston's little thing that they put out [1:35:42] with the red X's of where you can't ride [1:35:45] things and those are just no you may not [1:35:47] ride these all these other e things [1:35:49] anywhere on our stuff. go to your [1:35:50] private yard and do it. [1:35:52] >> So, if I just to move things along, just [1:35:54] kind of want to just take a very quick [1:35:56] rapid fire temperature check. Um, just [1:35:59] so that we can kind of get a quick [1:36:01] temperature check and move on here. Like [1:36:04] in terms of would we be okay with like [1:36:07] no passengers or stunt driving trick [1:36:10] racing? We kind of on board with that. [1:36:12] That's okay. Um, are we thinking okay on [1:36:17] sidewalks for ebikes? peding only [1:36:21] or at a relative safe speed. [1:36:25] >> Okay. [1:36:26] >> Yeah. [1:36:28] I was going to say that one would [1:36:29] probably be difficult, but generally [1:36:31] okay with the on sidewalks because if [1:36:33] kids want to get to school, we don't [1:36:34] want them on the roads, [1:36:35] >> right? [1:36:36] >> Okay. And then [1:36:39] impounding possibly if we have someone [1:36:42] who consistently is would you be okay [1:36:44] with that or are we on that one? [1:36:50] Yeah. I mean, if you have someone who [1:36:51] recklessly, there's an option there. It [1:36:53] would probably be work, but you [1:36:55] >> give the officer some. [1:36:57] >> Yeah. [1:36:58] >> Um, [1:36:58] >> yeah. I mean, having the ordinance is [1:37:00] like, did I choose to enforce it? Right. [1:37:03] Do I right now think that this is [1:37:05] something I need to enforce? Oh, this is [1:37:06] the third time I've talked to you in [1:37:08] three days about what you're doing is [1:37:10] dangerous. Then at least it gives an [1:37:11] option and it it gives some teeth to the [1:37:14] ordinance, right? Like this is the last [1:37:17] stance you your bike will be impounded. [1:37:20] >> Traffic. [1:37:21] >> Yep. Yep. [1:37:22] >> And then [1:37:23] >> three in the first week. [1:37:24] >> Yeah. [1:37:25] >> What's that? [1:37:25] >> Take three in the first week. [1:37:27] >> Yeah. Right. [1:37:28] >> And then uh [1:37:28] >> well I have a theory to share with you. [1:37:30] And then uh [laughter] and then I guess [1:37:33] uh the last one emot you know not the [1:37:36] you know not ebikes but emot okay with [1:37:38] just saying no to those because those I [1:37:41] believe are [1:37:43] >> motorcycles [1:37:46] » property [1:37:46] >> we we okay with saying no no entirely to [1:37:48] emot [1:37:49] >> only on private property. [1:37:52] >> Oh they can go 30 plus right? [1:37:59] Yeah, [1:38:06] » it's the ones that don't have pedals. [1:38:08] They don't they're not bikes anymore. [1:38:10] >> They're like dirt bikes terrorizes our [1:38:12] neighborhood. [1:38:12] >> So basically they're So basically [1:38:14] they're a scooter. [1:38:16] >> No, they're electric dirt bike. [1:38:18] >> Yeah, [1:38:18] >> they they some of them [1:38:20] >> those little ones running around like [1:38:22] little dirt bike things. [1:38:24] >> Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, [1:38:25] >> they look like pit bikes. [1:38:27] >> I I don't I don't know what they are. I [1:38:28] was trying to look up what they were. [1:38:30] >> That one that has like that huffy seat [1:38:31] belt or seat [1:38:33] >> know that wide seat. [1:38:35] >> They got bigger bigger tires on them. [1:38:37] >> Mhm. [1:38:38] >> Yeah. I think I've seen a couple running [1:38:39] around my [1:38:40] >> No. No. We don't want those on the [1:38:42] street. [1:38:42] >> So, it basically So, to basically quick [1:38:45] recap before I move on, it sounds like [1:38:47] we're okay with getting rid of the stunt [1:38:49] trick racing, you know, pulling [1:38:51] passengers around that. We're okay with them being on [1:38:55] sidewalks and we can impound and no to [1:38:58] emotos. Is that a summary of kind of [1:39:00] where we are? [1:39:06] » Most scooters. [1:39:07] >> That's only a one person device. Anyway, [1:39:09] we do we have a problem with electric [1:39:11] scooters. [1:39:12] >> They do the same thing. They go like 30 [1:39:13] miles an hour. [1:39:14] >> Are you talking standup scooter or sit [1:39:15] down scooter? [1:39:16] >> Both. [1:39:16] >> They go that fast. I know I see them zip [1:39:19] by me, but they're zip by my house, but [1:39:20] I think [1:39:22] >> so. I guess I'll say emotos and e- [1:39:24] scooters. We okay with saying if there's [1:39:26] no pedals on it. [1:39:27] >> No pedals and [1:39:28] >> no pedals, no dice. [1:39:30] >> Exactly. [1:39:31] >> Well, but then that muddies the water [1:39:33] because then you have one wheels and [1:39:35] electricity. [1:39:37] >> There's a boat [clears throat] [1:39:41] in town. [1:39:46] » Yep. [1:39:47] aren't going to tear up a yard like [1:39:49] those tires are only what [1:39:52] >> you get literally six-year-old kids on [1:39:54] them like just zoom right across the [1:39:56] street. [1:39:57] >> I mean I do think [1:39:58] >> Oh, I see it. [1:39:59] >> The I think the e scooters are way more [1:40:03] dangerous than the other things because [1:40:05] the kids are standing and you just [1:40:07] backed up. [1:40:12] And I think some of them do have age [1:40:14] limits on it, but parents do for their [1:40:17] kids. [1:40:21] » But I still think not on the streets or [1:40:23] the sidewalks like ride it around your [1:40:25] yard. [1:40:26] >> Okay. With an e scooter. [1:40:34] I mean, I guess I'd rather have kids be [1:40:36] on ebikes on the levey trail than going [1:40:38] down 16 or 51. [1:40:42] >> That's a bike, though. Those are [1:40:43] covered. [1:40:45] >> All right. Um, so that I think got some [1:40:49] clarification there. So, we'll go ahead [1:40:51] and move around to the next one. [1:40:55] >> Administrator report. [1:40:58] >> One second while I switch PowerPoints if [1:41:00] it wants to listen. [1:41:04] We hear Jeopardy music [1:41:08] lost connectivity. So [1:41:11] I'll do a quick highlight summary. Road [1:41:13] projects, sidewalks projects are all [1:41:15] coming to the end. Is that time of year [1:41:17] that fund is drawing to a close? Um so [1:41:21] um Calip bathroom Hey, there it goes. [1:41:28] Health uh Warden bathroom projects is [1:41:31] slated to begin after park bathrooms [1:41:34] closed for the season which is October [1:41:36] 5. Goals being completed largely in [1:41:39] March but no later than April 15th. Is [1:41:41] it Toby? [1:41:42] >> Ha. [1:41:46] » Perfect. [1:41:48] And then um in terms Hey, there we go. [1:41:52] In terms of the finances year to date, [1:41:53] the city's budget is good. We're in the [1:41:55] green. Um, we're very close. We're [1:41:58] running with sub% um of more revenue [1:42:02] than expenses to date. Some revenue [1:42:05] lines are a little behind than they were [1:42:06] last year. Uh, but uh, also there's been [1:42:10] cost impacts along the way. Gas is [1:42:13] really expensive. Diesel has gone up a [1:42:15] lot. Inflation's hit us just like any [1:42:17] other employer. So, we're watching it [1:42:18] closely. Um, again, that's just through [1:42:20] July. That's up on the screen. And once [1:42:22] we go through August numbers, we'll have [1:42:24] a better understanding where we're [1:42:26] standing for the remainder of the year. [1:42:28] Should any changes need to happen, we'll [1:42:29] let you guys know. But our goal is to [1:42:31] maintain in the positive. [1:42:34] Um, a reminder, the water utility rate [1:42:36] increase will happen in October while a [1:42:38] 3% increase. Uh, it is roughly an 80 [1:42:42] cent increase on the average monthly [1:42:43] bill for a resident. Um, and this is [1:42:45] again driven by PSC requirements needing [1:42:48] us to bring in more revenues per their [1:42:51] standards. [1:42:52] Then the 2027 budget process is [1:42:54] underway. The finance personnel [1:42:56] committees met once already and [1:42:58] department heads are plugging away. They [1:43:01] were once again given the 0% budget [1:43:03] increase directive. And we tossed two [1:43:06] new things in this cycle. Um we are [1:43:08] developing a sheet on the side. So if a [1:43:10] department can't maintain zero and what [1:43:12] has to come out to get them to stay in [1:43:15] zero, we're tracking it. So, as we go [1:43:17] through, we find um ways to save if [1:43:20] something go needs to go back in, we [1:43:22] have that running list. Additionally, um [1:43:24] we're asking staff to look closer at our [1:43:27] capital plan. Usually, we just look at [1:43:30] next year's closely, then the rest are [1:43:32] more of a forecast. We're asking staff [1:43:34] to look very closely at 27 and 28. So, [1:43:37] we start planning a little further out. [1:43:39] Um um from from just the planning [1:43:42] perspective also because we have kids [1:43:43] who have some positive fund balances we [1:43:45] need to plan to spend out down and close [1:43:48] it and all comes out of the same [1:43:50] employees managing and doing. So [1:43:52] thinking ahead is going to help us [1:43:54] address those at the same time. And our [1:43:56] goal will be next year to look at the [1:43:58] remainder three years of our financial [1:44:00] uh our TID dang I can say the right word [1:44:02] sometimes um capital plan to make it um [1:44:06] a little more um realistic long term. So [1:44:09] that's that that's that one. Last but [1:44:12] not least is general updates. I know we [1:44:14] just had an election and next one's just [1:44:16] around the corner. Absentee ballots go [1:44:18] out next week and Becky is looking at [1:44:20] already about 515 to be mailed on out. [1:44:24] Engineering department is growing by [1:44:26] one. The public works department [1:44:28] promoted Aaron to the deputy director [1:44:31] role and they were on the hunt for a new [1:44:33] um engineering tech and we're able to [1:44:36] hire an intern who fun fact was actually [1:44:38] a seasonal employee in the parks [1:44:39] department for a while too and he is [1:44:41] finishing up his college degree down in [1:44:43] Platville right now. He was gone, but [1:44:46] he'll be coming back January part-time, [1:44:48] then full-time after graduation. So, [1:44:51] we're able to take our intern who has [1:44:52] shown improvement and welcome him [1:44:54] full-time to the city. So, that's a nice [1:44:56] win. [1:44:58] Um Walmart, just an FYI, um during the [1:45:01] open book process and most recently, [1:45:03] they their attorneys reach out to our [1:45:04] attorney. They plan on challenging their [1:45:07] assessment. That's nothing specific to [1:45:10] portage. This is what part of Walmart's [1:45:12] MO. they go around um and select some of [1:45:16] their stores to challenge their [1:45:17] assessment to lower their tax liability [1:45:20] and we're next up on the list. So, our [1:45:23] insurance has coverage should they [1:45:24] choose to continue to go forward um with [1:45:27] that process. So, just an FOI if it ever [1:45:30] hits um a a public channel. [1:45:33] Additionally, one thing we have our eyes [1:45:35] on as we start to look towards next year [1:45:37] are some new accessibility requirements [1:45:40] uh for public local government websites. [1:45:44] Our site is largely compliant, but we do [1:45:46] have work to go through to ensure we're [1:45:48] compliant. And then there's a large [1:45:49] amount of documents and images on our [1:45:51] website we have to go through and tag [1:45:53] and structure in specific ways to be [1:45:55] compliant. So that'll start to become a timeconsuming lift next year, but [1:46:01] we're aware of the requirement and we'll [1:46:03] start working on it in advance of April [1:46:05] 28th because it'll just take time. [1:46:08] >> Would that be something that um you [1:46:11] could hire an intern to do? [1:46:14] >> Or attemp like [1:46:15] >> Yep. [1:46:16] >> It seems like a good winter project for [1:46:19] a college student. [1:46:21] >> Yeah, potentially if we fit in the 27 [1:46:23] budget potential intern. Winter's [1:46:25] January. [1:46:28] » Oh, 27. That is 27. Dang. [laughter] [1:46:33] >> That's four months away. Yeah. [1:46:38] » That's my update for tonight. [1:46:44] » Possible action, recruitment, selection, [1:46:46] and compensation for the position [1:46:48] director, including common council. [1:46:52] Sure. [1:47:00] So, um we're I've requested to go in [1:47:02] close session reg uh discussing our [1:47:05] finance director and her compensation [1:47:07] and uh future employment. [1:47:12] » All the person Bernie [1:47:13] >> move to go into close session pursuant [1:47:15] to Wisconsin state statutes 19.85 8 by [1:47:18] parent one parent C for considering [1:47:20] employment promotion compensation or [1:47:22] performance evaluation data of any [1:47:24] public employee over which the [1:47:25] governmental body has jurisdiction or [1:47:27] exercises responsibility finance [1:47:30] director. [1:47:31] All the person.