1 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:56,360 We're going to call the order of the March 17th, 2025 Board of Mayor and Alderman. At this time, we're going to have our prayer and pledge if you can all stand. 2 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:19,740 If you would like, pray with me please. Father is, we're before you today. I just want to say thank you for who you are. Thank you, God, that you are a holy, eternal God. Lord, while we're gathered here this evening, our hearts go out to our neighbors and friends, not only in our state, but in the surrounding states. Lord, who suffered great loss and damage, 3 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:25,580 due to the recent storm, but at the same time, Father, we say thank you that we were spared. 4 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Lord here tonight, Lord as we liberate and do business in this city, I thank you for the city of Poland. 5 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:35,020 And I thank you for each one that's gathered here. 6 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:38,480 Lord to do the work, the employees, the citizens, the council, 7 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:40,660 bless all that we do here. 8 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:43,680 And thank you, Lord, most of all, for the gift of your Son, Jesus. 9 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:45,520 Thank you. 10 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:54,660 Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, which is 11 00:08:54,660 --> 00:09:01,660 the United States, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 12 00:09:07,490 --> 00:09:12,390 All right, Paul, guys, we've been in budget work study at ranover, so we're just getting 13 00:09:12,390 --> 00:09:16,630 the council meeting started here at six, instead of five, at this time we'll do row 14 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:19,630 All the materials, coals. 15 00:09:20,210 --> 00:09:20,270 Here. 16 00:09:20,270 --> 00:09:21,330 All the maintenance sailors. 17 00:09:22,390 --> 00:09:24,330 All of your money, coals. 18 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:25,250 All of your ingredients. 19 00:09:25,630 --> 00:09:25,810 Here. 20 00:09:26,250 --> 00:09:26,710 All of your junk. 21 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:27,550 Here. 22 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:29,330 Vice Mayor Megan Thompson. 23 00:09:30,510 --> 00:09:31,070 All of your money. 24 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:31,790 Here. 25 00:09:33,390 --> 00:09:38,370 Under the approval of the gender as was discussed in the budget work study. 26 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:41,110 We have two resolutions that will need to be added. 27 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:43,390 Resolution 25-26. 28 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:52,570 Resolution 25-27 and they'll be placed under legislative as somebody would like to make a motion to approve the agenda with those two 29 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:52,990 Resolution. 30 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:53,830 So motion approved. 31 00:09:54,810 --> 00:09:55,270 Second. 32 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:58,050 We have a motion and with second. 33 00:09:58,050 --> 00:10:01,550 Do we have any other discussions on the agenda? 34 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:04,090 All in favor say aye. 35 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:04,950 Aye. 36 00:10:04,950 --> 00:10:05,830 All opposed. 37 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:11,810 Nothing under presentation tonight under public hearing portion. 38 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:18,450 But we have a item certificate of compliance for Drupatale, a Portland line in Spears located 39 00:10:18,450 --> 00:10:23,990 at 144 West-Night Street, Portland, Tennessee, anyone that's here wishing to speak on 40 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:24,850 that item. 41 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:33,830 Then the next public hearing item is, uh, home premises beer permit for Sebastian Lanzo, 42 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:39,550 uh, Castanita at 105 North Broadway, Portland, Tennessee, anyone wishing to speak 43 00:10:39,550 --> 00:10:40,950 on that public hearing item. 44 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Seeing none, our public hearing is closed next. We'll go to our public comment period. 45 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,620 We have one person signed up. I believe it's Ashley Washington. 46 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:18,460 You would come to the podium, state your name and address, and the item that you want to speak on. 47 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,780 You'll have five minutes there to speak. 48 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Hello, my name is Ashley Washington. My address is 517 West Market Street. 49 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:42,120 I'm here to speak about Portland possibly allowing the sale and the popping, I guess, of fireworks inside the city limits for Juneteenth. 50 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:44,860 I'm just sharing with us whatever you want to share. 51 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:53,140 So basically, last year, I didn't know, I knew here, I didn't know that we weren't allowed to pop the firecrackers on Juneteenth. 52 00:11:53,140 --> 00:11:59,660 couple of officers was like hey you need to do this and that and then I was like I called the 53 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:06,480 city and they were like no you have to get in touch with you guys so here I am. I just want to be able to 54 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:14,600 pop the firecrackers and have the same opportunity for our black independence as our nation's independence. 55 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:20,460 That's it. That's all I got. Thank you. Thank you. All right that was the only item we had on the 56 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:26,780 comment period. Next we go to communications from council members. Have any council members 57 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:31,620 want to share anything tonight? Mayor, I missed during the agenda part of that. It was 58 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:37,540 going to ask if there was a reason why the compliance for the liquor store was on their 59 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:43,920 twice is why it's on legislative and beer well. Well I feel like we probably need to approve 60 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:50,360 which probably should be approving the strict compliance after the recommendation of that call 61 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,540 average board as a resolution. We haven't been doing that, but we keep saying it's approved. 62 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,620 You talking about this, too? You're going to buy this for a liquor store? 63 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,900 You put it where you want to, because the council doesn't have to approve as long as you do. 64 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:08,860 Well, that's why we asked other day, because it looks like that. It's showing that the council 65 00:13:08,860 --> 00:13:13,220 technically approved it, though they never voted on it. So if you don't want it there, we don't have to 66 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:17,640 do anything. We just wanted to do it. Yeah, because we're showing it as a resolution. The council 67 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,460 never voted it would say that for Albert Ford. So if you want it, how do you want us to write it? 68 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:28,040 I think it's fine to do with the resolution. I think you got to decide why the board 69 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,760 is even acting on ABC for a man. I mean, it's beers with city regulations. The city has no 70 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:39,260 regulation in the ABC. All we do is say it's zone properly. It's within our numerical limitation. 71 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,760 And we don't, you know, they're supposed to also provide us for the background check. 72 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,700 That's it. So the certificate applies. You just want to give a letter from 73 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:52,000 how a bearish board is then. It's a way to have a record that's finished. Somebody needs to 74 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,660 either vote to do it or you just do it on your own, but it can be the way. It could be the whole 75 00:13:55,660 --> 00:14:02,660 council. Well we wrote it as a recommendation and we looked back as we need a record going forward 76 00:14:02,660 --> 00:14:07,560 because when somebody looks back we need something. If the council is going to act on it needs to be 77 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:11,220 in the council meeting, not in the bear board meeting because the bear board has nothing to do with 78 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:16,260 this. So it should just be on the regular council business, not with the, but I can't 79 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:19,040 be able to call your app call of the work. 80 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,320 That's why it's so confusing after. 81 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:26,140 So what's your recommendation? 82 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:34,320 So if you want the council act on certificates of compliance for ABC permits, and he's 83 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,400 being an item on the agenda that the full council has nothing to do with the alcohol board. 84 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:40,720 Okay, we have an item on here tonight for that. 85 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:43,300 And we just need to take it off from the avenue. 86 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:46,120 but this is the moment of once. I think it was your case. 87 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,040 How does it secure the light? 88 00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:49,900 I'd never seen one shell of twice like that. That's why it was lost. 89 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Yeah. That takes care of it. I think it resolves it. 90 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,980 So when you get to alcohol beverage, you can remove it. 91 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:56,920 Okay. That's perfect. 92 00:14:57,420 --> 00:14:59,960 All right. Any other communications from Council members? 93 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:30,440 And then Mayor's report, a couple of things to share with you. We met with T-Dot, March 11th, construction on the I-65 widening from exit 96 to exit 98, Rivergate to Miller'sville. We'll start in a few weeks. So, heads up. Okay. So, there's going to be a little lengthy time there. So, once that gets into full swing, there'll be some delays. But also in that meeting, we discussed the Portland Bypass again. It is still on track. 94 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Anything they've told us, we've met in person wants, we've met virtually wants and by email that the Portland bypass the northern leg will go to be as August the 15th and the signs will go up to start construction on October 1st of this year. 95 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:55,180 So the Portland bypass and all the leg is starting this year, so we've met over and over with them 96 00:15:55,180 --> 00:16:00,080 So I just want to confirm that because I know there's been a little confusion about that. So 97 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Also gate view road extension. I'm going to be bringing you some information about this this project has lingered for years 98 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,700 Where we're supposed to extend that from the end of gate view at the school over to pain road 99 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:16,000 And we're going to have to have a real discussion to you. Are we still doing this? 100 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 We've had multiple engineers look at this. There's 101 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,540 a real issue out there to make this project move forward, but we're going to have to have 102 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,980 a discussion. So I'm bringing it to you. It'll be coming up soon. 103 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:36,340 The preserved Portland land use plan is Mars 27th, Russel in GM 530 to 7 PM. I think this may be the last 104 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:42,640 public opportunity. We've been meeting public meetings multiple times for almost two years now. 105 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,540 So we've done online surveys and everything. So hope you'll come to it and we'll be done the 106 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:53,900 And then our community cleanup day is Saturday, March the 29th. 107 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:57,220 A lot of times when civic groups call and ask what they can do, and I say, 108 00:16:57,260 --> 00:16:59,860 man, we don't encourage you to pick up trash on the side of the road. 109 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:00,960 It would always be a hell. 110 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,340 But we want to encourage our citizens, March the 29th. 111 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:08,680 Get signed up, look on the chambers, page, you can sign up as a volunteer, 112 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,260 we'll give you all the supplies you need, we'll go out in mass. 113 00:17:12,820 --> 00:17:17,820 And every time we do this, we'll pick up thousands of pounds of debris 114 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:21,720 trash along the sides of roads and so I hope that you'll get involved 115 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,760 March the 29th for that. 116 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:28,200 All right, this time I'm going to turn it over to our alcohol 117 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,880 beverage board chairman, I'll let him make down. 118 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,260 I'll call the alcoholic beverage board committee 119 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:37,360 core. We've got a core and for that. 120 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:41,460 The first item on our agenda is a certificate of compliance for group 121 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:44,380 to tell the pork and wine and spirits. At 144 west 122 00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:52,200 I'm going to move that we take that off the agenda and handle it under the legislative portion 123 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:59,720 if I can get a motion set, a dual motion set, a second motion and second all the time. 124 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:06,700 The next item will be for the new Mexican restaurant, it's in the old prescription shop 125 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:11,100 that 105 North Broadway, for Sebastian Castaneta, 126 00:18:14,940 --> 00:18:16,560 had the application process and made it 127 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,680 things to be in order on it, so I'll have a motion, second, second, second, second, 128 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:29,890 second, all in favor, like that carries, and that's all we've got on our colleague 129 00:18:29,890 --> 00:18:30,950 board tonight. 130 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:33,590 I'm going to turn that part of the meeting. 131 00:18:34,010 --> 00:18:34,790 Thank you, sir. 132 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:36,890 Next step is our consent calendar. 133 00:18:36,970 --> 00:18:37,810 Do we have a motion? 134 00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:39,450 So move. 135 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:40,210 Have a second. 136 00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:42,930 All in favor, say aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye. 137 00:18:42,930 --> 00:18:43,950 All opposed. 138 00:18:44,530 --> 00:18:49,530 Nothing under community development, anything you want to share under finance, 139 00:18:50,610 --> 00:18:55,430 ornamentalist, nothing under it's not nothing, the sports steady was pretty much it. 140 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:58,670 All right, any thing under fire, ornamentalistic balance? 141 00:18:58,870 --> 00:19:01,010 Stop coming up soon, probably be nothing behind. 142 00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:05,310 All right, and then next up is under H.O.R. 143 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:07,250 ornamentalist, you've got a discussion item. 144 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:12,130 His discussion for the personnel policy manual, 145 00:19:12,130 --> 00:19:18,070 I guess I would refer to Ms. Hazelol, man, most good for you. 146 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,500 But you don't have to, you don't have to. 147 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:23,400 You don't have to move in, yeah. 148 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:24,480 Where is he? 149 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Do you want to go here, okay? 150 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Okay. 151 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,060 I just... 152 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:29,040 Okay, she's not. 153 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,620 So this item, I wanted to put back on this agenda to discuss a few things. 154 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,180 And so the any questions that you get about, 155 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:43,060 we'll be doing the second rating of the personal policy next meeting, I guess. 156 00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:49,480 So, we want to see if you add any questions or thoughts after that class meeting. 157 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,080 Hazel, come on up. 158 00:19:53,290 --> 00:19:55,950 So, you've got any questions for Hazel. 159 00:19:56,110 --> 00:20:01,310 If not, we'll be moving on with the personnel policy to next meeting. 160 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:12,240 So, you know, as it's put it on the agenda. 161 00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:14,320 So, we're just going to add some questions. 162 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,000 You'd ask about that. 163 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,380 I did. I'd ask some questions. 164 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:21,220 I had already gotten word back from the directors on where they stood. 165 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:24,640 Any other questions, right? 166 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,680 But anything? 167 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,540 I think the only thing we're looking at is right now being 168 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:32,740 is just the updates to the personnel policy, 169 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:34,840 which I think we're going to talk about. 170 00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:36,260 We're going to go to the next time. 171 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,800 If you have any questions, please reach out to them. 172 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:43,860 If you have any questions, please reach out to them. 173 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:44,000 OK. 174 00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:46,360 And you'll have an opportunity to make any changes in that 175 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:46,680 security. 176 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:49,520 All right. 177 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Thank you. 178 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,200 All right. 179 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,860 All right under legislative ordinance 25 national ninth first reading an ordinance to repeal and replace 180 00:20:57,860 --> 00:21:02,860 Title 8 chapter one toxicating liquors on this will code of the city of Portland. I'm a motion to get on floor 181 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:10,940 And so we were doing a couple things on this one things. I brought up to you while by we were raising up the fees 182 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:16,240 We were also adding into this the previous amendments that were never pulled together 183 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,420 So we pulled it all together in one document 184 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:26,600 We're getting ready to codify the entire municipal code, so we want to get this out in front of you, so you can see it, see the adding questions in there. 185 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:34,690 And we're also, in the past, be reviewing all these things as well as we can make forward into that. 186 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:37,010 All in favor say aye. 187 00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:37,750 Aye. 188 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:38,330 All in favor. 189 00:21:41,530 --> 00:21:41,950 All in favor. 190 00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:42,650 All in favor. 191 00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:51,610 All in favor. 192 00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:57,670 to get on the floor. And a second, and based on the conversation, if the other meeting, once 193 00:21:57,670 --> 00:22:03,730 again, this is coming up dating of this particular chapter. One of the things that we did 194 00:22:03,730 --> 00:22:10,470 add was expand the time to shoot fireworks from June the 18th through July 5th. We added 195 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:17,410 Memorial Day weekend and then we have December 24th through January 1st. That's the time. Remember, 196 00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:23,570 we don't dictate the time to sail when it comes to that as a state. 197 00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:28,050 As far as I want to address this young lady, she had mentioned something about the 198 00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:29,730 land, the sail and the sheath you know of them. 199 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Unfortunately, the state dictates that sale time, and we're not allowed to sell it at the 20th, but there are some year-round retailers, like sad-sams, some of those other places they sell year-round, but for the local people in port, and we're not allowed to sell it at the 20th, so make sure you get them before you need them. 200 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:55,500 And also, be a makeup weekend, but I know just in there, there's a section that 201 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:59,240 refer to in the event that there's a drought out there, and there's a band that's been 202 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,500 overshoot them, yes, or on the 4th of July, as soon as the weather permits, it would 203 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:10,720 be a loud, that following weekend, while weather improves, and I noticed that it's a man 204 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,780 p.m. cut off on that weekend. 205 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:17,240 Can that be changed to tan because during that time of the year not a clock it's better to have this body 206 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Can dark anything they will make right here. What what is it on the normal if you go back? 207 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,160 Let's look at that real quick. So we're all clear there are a couple times yeah for that two week period 208 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,360 That you could cheat them that does cut off an anti-hum there's an exception for the fourth 209 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:36,700 Did you lie for that week into where it goes to T and PM it's just when they added their makeup 210 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:40,160 And there they went back to man PM on it that needs to change it in off so it's 211 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:51,240 Yeah, I didn't see the cut off date on the, or the, I mean, we don't list, so June the 19th 212 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:57,840 night listed as June 18th to July the 5th from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. with the exception of July 213 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:04,500 4th for the time shall be 10 a.m. to 11 p.m. so that's how it's written and that's how it 214 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:11,520 But previously, all we did was move the day back to the 18th base on the discussion at the last meeting. 215 00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:17,600 Well, I'd like to make a motion that we mirror the times that you have the forecast for every holiday. 216 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,160 For June 19th, for all of those, for everyone home. 217 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:26,040 Yeah, for all, not for the, you know, that two weeks up and forth as you lie, 218 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:28,620 that's pretty much people just play in around with them. 219 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,000 They in the middle, we don't allow the complaint from everyone saying they're shooting all night long. 220 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,880 the actual day of the night and forth more or the end of makeup than you referred for 221 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,260 makeup. Correct. Okay. If that makes sense. I do. Okay. We put that in a form of 222 00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:48,560 emotion. I do. Did you do it? Have a second. All right. Just so I'm clear that the 223 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:59,000 time shall be 10 a.m. to 11 p.m. on June the 19 July 4th, the Memorial Day weekend 224 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,960 Which compass is Saturday Sunday Monday we're doing the whole weekend or just I 225 00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:10,320 Just on the day just on the moral day 226 00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:18,570 Yeah, we'll do that and 227 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:25,490 Okay, and then the other set out because it's New Year's day and you had a 12 38 228 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:28,510 Okay, you want to still be a future firework. 229 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:30,710 All right. 230 00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:33,710 So we have a motion and a second on the amendment. 231 00:25:33,770 --> 00:25:35,430 We're voting on the amendment only. 232 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:37,330 All in favor of the amendment say aye. 233 00:25:37,810 --> 00:25:38,410 Aye. All opposed. 234 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:41,430 Now we're going to go back and vote on the first reading as amended. 235 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:45,250 So this is ordinance 25-10. 236 00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:46,250 The first reading. 237 00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:47,650 Title seven. 238 00:25:47,970 --> 00:25:48,730 Chapter six. 239 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:50,010 It's all in favor say aye. 240 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:51,150 Aye. All opposed. 241 00:25:51,730 --> 00:25:52,750 And we'll make those changes. 242 00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:58,170 have them ready for the second reading and then okay. And just as a reminder, the reason why these 243 00:25:58,170 --> 00:26:05,490 dates were strong in some of these times was kind of a back and forth over time. Some people, 244 00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:11,930 like fireworks, some people don't like fireworks, and it was kind of a compromise, right? So 245 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:17,310 that's why the dates and times are a little different. Okay. All right, sounds good. Thank you. 246 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:24,210 Resolution 25-20 a resolution offer us a certificate of compliance for Drew Patel 247 00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:28,650 a Portland line in spirit, located 144 West Knight Street for Nintendo C to have a motion 248 00:26:28,650 --> 00:26:29,490 get on the floor. 249 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:30,310 Some moods. 250 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:31,470 So do I have a second? 251 00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:32,730 Any discussion? 252 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:35,910 So this is something y'all are probably aware of this. 253 00:26:36,030 --> 00:26:44,190 This is an existing retail sport that we have now that young ladies have owned it. 254 00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:52,360 she dies unexpectedly. And Mr. Patel has the gentleman that has heard 255 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,460 us and it was left with it, had no desire. He didn't want anything to do with it. 256 00:26:55,540 --> 00:26:59,740 He wanted out of it. And Mr. Patel had actually came to us and asked for a lot of 257 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:05,820 songs on 52, a while back, but I think he's mentioned that he was a band in that 258 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:08,780 idea, and just use that in a sense, it's an establishment. 259 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:13,980 as a passing of this resolution would abandon the other one, okay? 260 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:18,860 And so he went through all of our approval process and everything for the last one, 261 00:27:18,860 --> 00:27:22,120 so I see no reason to leave it. 262 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,300 We don't really have an opportunity to transfer a license that has to be done this way. 263 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:32,060 And like the attorney said earlier, all we are doing with this resolution is just saying that he checks all of our boxes. 264 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:34,400 Then it's up to the state whether it's you or not. 265 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,500 And we track it because we have a limitation on the number of licenses in our city. 266 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,620 That was compromised made with the citizens based on our population. 267 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,060 Okay. 268 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,180 All in favor say aye. 269 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:48,740 Aye. 270 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:49,380 All opposed. 271 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,060 Next up is Resolution 25-26. 272 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,820 Resolution approving the intent of the city of Portland or fire and appropriateness 273 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,400 through funding to complete the competitive tea deck. 274 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:01,260 Our finalization grant. 275 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,920 Have a motion to approve. 276 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,920 Is that underled just please? 277 00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:05,940 Mm-hmm. 278 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:06,280 Nice to meet you. 279 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,300 All right. 280 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:09,140 So we have a motion. 281 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,960 We have a second. 282 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:13,180 So this is the resolution. 283 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:14,500 We don't send this in another. 284 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,880 We'll send them both to the city of Galton. 285 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,860 And they're getting ready to sign contracts. 286 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,020 On this grant, we've been working toward for over two years. 287 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,700 So we're almost to the finish line. 288 00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:27,940 The hope is to get this thing completed and water flowing in a pipe. 289 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:29,820 So to speak, by the end of 26. 290 00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:37,940 Okay. And this is something that we are all on to the assumption of white houses considering 291 00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:43,740 taking our system that they give in their blessing to also say they think we should move forward. 292 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Yep. 293 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:54,920 All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Next up is Resolution 25-27. Resolution 294 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,100 off-Rise in the Mayor and Finance Director of the City of Portland to pursue financing options 295 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,100 for the cost of necessary improvements and extensions of the city water system. 296 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,040 We have a motion to approve and a second. 297 00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:11,080 And so once you pass this, she'll be reaching out. 298 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,460 She has already been reaching out and she'll be bringing to you. 299 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,880 And you'll approve the option that she brings. 300 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:18,720 Okay. 301 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,760 All in favor say aye. 302 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,380 Aye. 303 00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:20,900 All opposed. 304 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,580 All right. Thank you for that. 305 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,020 Nothing under airport, anything under parks and rail. 306 00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:32,940 No, it's from the wood all, and we'll go to planning and codes. 307 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Ordnance 25-11 is the first reading and ordinance authorized the mayor to enter into a developer's agreement with the Stephen Stags for the water improvements including the installation of a new ADN waterman through the development. 308 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:57,140 A new ADN waterman along college street and a new ADN sewerman throughout the development for the Ruby Springs development located at 7.8 college street Portland, can the sea do have a motion to get on the floor? 309 00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:58,400 No, no. 310 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,960 I'm gonna say- 311 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:14,540 And so this has been the developer approved of this and all the department has, and so once this is the approved on the second rating of the site, all in favor say aye, all opposed. 312 00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:28,180 The next one, if you get a motion in a second, I'll explain this one to you, resolution 25-21, a resolution to approve the order of presentations for playing unit developments to have a motion to get on the floor. 313 00:30:29,780 --> 00:30:36,400 So I thought this could be helpful, currently the way we're doing PUDs is that the developer holds their own community 314 00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:37,460 conceptual. 315 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:39,100 We don't have anything to do with that. 316 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,960 And then they hold a conceptual with planning. 317 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:43,240 And then they go into the official process. 318 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:49,780 I thought this would be helpful if once they get down to the community, they would come to the council and do their concept. 319 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:55,480 Go to the planning to their concept, like normal, and then they would see it at the beginning and you'd see it at the end. 320 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,920 Because all these zoning's, you're the last boat on these. 321 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:01,240 And any thing that you see at the front end, 322 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,180 because I think what the developers looking for, 323 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,680 they want as much input as they can get before they turn in their final plan 324 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,760 for approval, to understand a lot of money. 325 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,500 And so, anything that you could share on the front end, 326 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120 when you see it, I think they're going to bounce. 327 00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:17,220 That would probably help you in the last week. 328 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:18,940 Yes, and that's the reason why I thought, 329 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,880 let's, how about we, we're new on our new ordnets here, 330 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,200 and this don't take anything away from planning, 331 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,860 They're still going to do all their work, but if the body's going to review it all. 332 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:32,500 But also because you're going to vote only the last, you probably should see a concept. 333 00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:37,100 Remember a concept is not the full engineering, but you can imagine if by the time they 334 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:42,180 go to the community, time they go to the council, and time they go to planning, and everybody's 335 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,760 live, this is terrible. 336 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,480 They're not going to put all their money into it, the way they had it, and it saved 337 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,360 them time and ever. 338 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:50,800 So that's all we're asking. 339 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,880 You'll see this is being in good places, you know, it's been a role discussion place. 340 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:59,780 I think if you have a comment to make it would be a perfect time to do that. 341 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,520 I believe. 342 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,500 Because I think they want to hear it. I think they want to know. 343 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:07,900 I think the last situation they would love from the council's perspective. 344 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,060 They did discuss that at planning. 345 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,110 This body was like more adamant about, you know, it wouldn't happen. 346 00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:20,590 But you said I'm saying, but it's good input. 347 00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:31,970 So, all the drivers say aye, and all opposed, and then, so tonight, because they were in the perfect spot, we just asked them to come to represent their conceptual. 348 00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:38,690 Right? So, night, if you want to introduce how you want to introduce them, let them come to their concept. 349 00:32:39,170 --> 00:32:43,650 Yeah, so I'll give you an idea of where this concept put is going to be at. 350 00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:52,260 some of the zoom in on the map that's right behind the North Fire Hall in this location right here 351 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:57,080 where this is Jeff Farms Pud. We've got the project manager Rich. He's going to give a presentation 352 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,560 over the foot. 353 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Thank you. Nate said my name is Rich Speckman. I'm with M2 Group and I'm the project engineer 354 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:18,440 for jet and farms. Tonight we have the ownership group here at Chuck Woods, Eric Johnson and Wilhelm. 355 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,380 So, just focus on it. 356 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,080 As Nate said, we're kind of on the north side there by the fire station there. 357 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,560 Offwards road, just down from North Broadway. 358 00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:13,070 See if a keyboard works very well tonight so he can move. 359 00:34:13,290 --> 00:34:15,650 He shall be able to move it with a keyboard there. 360 00:34:15,650 --> 00:34:16,630 go through the screen. 361 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,960 I'll go to full screen and then use the, 362 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:13,170 yes, here. This is, well, 363 00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:16,790 also was in your packet. This is the concept plan for Jet and Farms. 364 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:22,550 And it's well-cated 365 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:30,510 at 115 Woods Road, just east north Broadway. We have a total project area of 43.65 acres. 366 00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:36,630 This 43.65 acres will consist of 85 single family homes. 367 00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:40,570 They're detached as the ones kind of shown gray here. 368 00:35:41,090 --> 00:35:44,690 And then we're going to have 18 town homes with zero bot lines, 369 00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:48,510 and those will be up by the west entrance that you see here. 370 00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:55,790 The average of lot size is 8,180 square feet for the single family detached. 371 00:35:55,790 --> 00:36:02,290 and then the town homes, each of those are going to be 30 by 55 and they'll have a rear 372 00:36:02,290 --> 00:36:07,570 access to those with dual garage behind underneath both of them. 373 00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:17,190 The open space required is 8.72 acres which is 20% of the site and the open space provided 374 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:24,070 is that we're providing is 21.61 acres which is 49.51% of the site. 375 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:31,850 The usable open space required is 10% of the site, which comes out to 4.4 acres, and our 376 00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:35,630 usable open space provided is 4.51 acres. 377 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:42,370 We worked with, we had the neighborhood meeting, and we met with staff in early January, 378 00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:50,830 and then we worked them between the neighborhood meeting and the planning commission concept 379 00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:57,830 discussion that we had with them back in February and this plan is a result of those comments. 380 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:03,610 We've been watching some of your meetings and here how you want a lot more amenities throughout 381 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:09,610 and so it's more of a useful community and not just checking the boxes in the ordinance and this plan really 382 00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:17,070 does reflect that. We've got walking paths that connect all the way up from the front to the very back 383 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:25,150 of the development and down in through here, we have some usable soccer fields and a field 384 00:37:25,150 --> 00:37:29,970 area with some benches we want to put in down through there and up by the front. 385 00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:37,070 We're talking about putting a couple covered bus stop areas for the kids, so that they want to walk up there and wait for the bus when it's storming. 386 00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:43,410 I have an area that they can sit in. I've also got a fire pit area down through here with some parking. 387 00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:51,570 People can come up and use this and look at the, we're actually using this basin for stormwater management. 388 00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:57,790 But when it's dry, they can go down there and kick the soccer ball around or whatever they want to do down there. 389 00:38:00,290 --> 00:38:09,470 We do have the pass connecting through here so that you can get into back here without cutting through people's yards. 390 00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:13,090 I don't know if you've ever seen that before. Kids want to get somewhere. 391 00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:15,950 They just find the hole in the back yard to get there quick. 392 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:23,050 So we're trying to alleviate that on some of the neighbors here by giving a nice walking path to get back to those many areas. 393 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:29,730 There is a natural gas pipeline that cuts through here, and there are some wetlands up 394 00:38:29,730 --> 00:38:30,570 and through here. 395 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:35,370 We're not counting the wetlands or any of those active open space. 396 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:43,630 We also, we do have a dog park in here, as well, and see if the growing pavilion, 397 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:45,110 we'll talk about. 398 00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:51,210 And then one thing we've noticed with a lot of multi-family sites, apartments, even, 399 00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:56,210 If you drive around sometimes, you see people park on the street because they can't, they can't 400 00:38:56,210 --> 00:39:00,590 get in their own house or they have visitors over for birthday party or family gathering. 401 00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:05,930 So we actually provided extra parking in the multifamily area. 402 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:11,690 So they'll have two spots on their own if their own house and then they'll be over full parking 403 00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:13,150 for guests and whatnot. 404 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:18,270 And we also strategically locate some of that on this side over by the fire pit area. 405 00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:22,170 So this extra area can also be used for overflow parking. 406 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:27,710 We also have a major central kiosk, which is also available in this area. 407 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,400 We have two entrances right here on the site. 408 00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:40,180 I guess before I get down to that. 409 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:45,180 These are some of the amenity pictures that we're looking at right now 410 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:49,040 that Jet and Farms development group is put together 411 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,900 just so you can kind of get a visual of what maybe some of those things might look like. 412 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,800 And then this is the T dot expansion for the 109 bypass. 413 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:06,460 It's kind of hard to see on this plan, but this is where the new wood's road connection will happen. 414 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,680 And then down here by the firehouse, there will be a cul-de-sac there. 415 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,740 You all might be all aware of this already since we've been working with T dot on this stuff. 416 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,700 So our development will come in through here. 417 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:32,220 And our entrance on the east side will line up directly with the new T dot was road bypass when it comes in. 418 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:38,620 Right now T dot does not have any signalization warranted for this intersection. 419 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:41,900 And we did our analysis built on the T dot study. 420 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,920 And with the houses that we're adding, it still does not need a traffic light at that signal. 421 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,740 I thought there's a signal going in there, 422 00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:55,680 Carlton. 423 00:40:56,460 --> 00:41:00,820 Yes, so up here, I think that we were looking at two sections. 424 00:41:01,180 --> 00:41:04,300 We need to, we have to have an access to come out of the fire hall, 425 00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:07,040 directly onto the natto, so they're realigning the natto, 426 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,520 but that section right there for all that traffic. 427 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,900 We've had multiple conversations. 428 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,780 It's my understanding that T-DOT is including a signal there. 429 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,220 So we need to be aware of that. 430 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,800 And we're working on the last conference. 431 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,320 Because we met within the other day, 432 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:27,420 We talked about that area so we'll wait on those plans, but it's my understanding because we call for that for my offer almost four years 433 00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:34,660 We want that to be fully signalized when they build that out. So we'll take their no, but we're just for them and their purposes 434 00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:42,460 We're we're warning them to signalize that intersection. Oh, he got to do. It's just all the better for them. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that that would be better 435 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:48,000 Yeah, well, I guess we'll reach out to T dot and see if we don't reach out 436 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,780 We're waiting on them to send the plane in from our meeting the other day. 437 00:41:51,140 --> 00:41:51,700 Okay, terrific. 438 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,440 So, that would be great for our residents there, and see here, and we go back to that. 439 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,720 Our biggest concern is all the folks on the other side. 440 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,060 When you get all the people in the future, sharing that with, before this is dealt with 441 00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:13,140 they've been proposed, we were working the side that needs to be signal for those folks. 442 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:13,520 Sure. 443 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:14,180 Over there. 444 00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:15,000 So 445 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:32,120 that basically wraps up our presentation for this. 446 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,280 You might get questions or comments that they want to share. 447 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:36,680 Anything you want to share? 448 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:46,980 I do, you may not be the right one, but I know one of the issues that I'm seeing is asking for a lot of development to come into the city. 449 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:55,680 A lot of density is, I know the development out on Jim Courtney was able to give a monetary donation to the park. 450 00:42:56,260 --> 00:43:01,120 to help them do whatever they need to do. Sometimes they're specific things like 451 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,420 lights around a track or repair X-Wires a year. Sometimes it's a monetary donation 452 00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,960 because they can maybe split it across different ways or use it with their 453 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,900 impact fees. You may not be able to tell me but his jet and willing to do something 454 00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:18,540 along that lands for. I think at this point it depends on the way around a large 455 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:27,140 and connect, see what outside of the platform are going to be required there, and at that point we can look upon one, and see what we need to do. 456 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,120 Still a lot, Mayor, will you just want to? 457 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040 Yeah, I guess that brings me to another question. 458 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,200 Nathan, I don't know if you can confirm this. 459 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,200 We're still waiting on the utility sanitary water, which we did submit a couple of months ago. 460 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:52,880 We are coming up against the deadline for the ordinance for by April 9th to submit the preliminary master plan. 461 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,560 I believe we're still going to wait another two weeks before we get that report in. 462 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:01,640 Megan, we know where that model is at current. 463 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:08,360 We were saying the modeling which needs type of the capacity of the letter size, so I think maybe this way 464 00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:16,620 Into this week, okay, okay, okay, and that'll be with the details on the off-site 465 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:18,120 Okay 466 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:21,020 All right 467 00:44:21,020 --> 00:44:26,920 I was going to go with that as we didn't have for another two weeks. I'm not sure we could make that April 9 deadline to stay within the ordinance 468 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,420 Because we don't know what we're doing for you to let it go. They'll get you a letter out this week 469 00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:38,620 Okay. All right. Thank you very much for the question. Anybody else have a question or comment about the 85 single 470 00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:45,680 family animals are they all the same size? No, as a matter of fact, I'll let the developers answer the questions. 471 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,840 They're developing and building the halls and they've been working on the, you know, trying to up to the come up to the podium and 472 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,600 where is the dirt track going. 473 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,280 That's it, that's it, that's it. 474 00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:19,040 I'm Eric Johnson, general contractor, co-owner, jetting property group, most of you know, kind of over model of building the home is never been that first time home buyer, it's always kind of been that growing family, second time home buyer size. 475 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:25,420 So, what we want to bring with this development is a little bigger home, versus at 12, 14, 476 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:26,260 square foot home. 477 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:33,320 We want to be 1600 square foot minimum with a touch garage required on all homes. 478 00:45:35,020 --> 00:45:41,420 Now, 1600 square foot being the minimum, we'll probably push the envelope on some sections 479 00:45:41,420 --> 00:45:44,020 inside the subdivision to build a little bigger home. 480 00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:47,660 But yeah, we're gonna 16 out of square foot, ma'am, a task garage. 481 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,370 Thank you. 482 00:45:51,370 --> 00:45:55,050 I'm assuming you got to have HIV to take care of all the open spaces and all that, absolutely. 483 00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:58,840 Count home, say, is that the same size? 484 00:45:59,820 --> 00:46:01,540 Well, you said, it should be similar. 485 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:02,980 Yeah. 486 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,520 It would be close. 487 00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:08,320 I'm trying to get a picture of him, but... 488 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,360 Yeah, the Count home too will have, you know, 489 00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:12,580 garage parking in the rear. 490 00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:16,180 So, you know, with the garage attached parking, 491 00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:22,880 to keep vehicles out of, you know, out of the roadway and stuff, just like with the additional parking spaces that we added. 492 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:30,860 You know, that will restrict those on when we start to really pan those square closures down with the architect, 493 00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:34,160 to exactly where we can make work with the neurologist. 494 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,860 Because the neurologist is something I think it needs to happen. 495 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:37,620 For sure. 496 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,060 Is there an oversleep parking here or? 497 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,820 No, and that's what we've tried to avoid to have the two additional 498 00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:49,520 Overclock parking areas, and then also have at least two parking spurs. 499 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:54,460 Two parking spots per unit along with the private alleyway. 500 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:55,520 So the entrance of the garage. 501 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,460 Oh yeah, so if you look back behind it, they'll both have their own private alleyway, 502 00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,280 with their own private drives behind. 503 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,460 So again, this is to keep anything off the mainstream. 504 00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:16,260 You know, and two going into this prior, prior law enforcement, prior purpose, you know, I think it's important. 505 00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:19,720 Not only for, you know, school must have fought on. 506 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:21,520 That's what we're going to have to do, you know, be bust off. 507 00:47:22,140 --> 00:47:27,320 But it's important for, you know, emergency personnel to be able to get through there, in case it wasn't emergency. 508 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,920 You don't want to be able to start from running. 509 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120 So, you know, far truck apparatus is what not. 510 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:38,240 I don't want him to be able to navigate throughout that sub-business easily, so, and that's something 511 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,320 to like even our co-bus acts to make that requirement to where they can go in there and make a full turn with that, I haven't stopped. 512 00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:50,600 So, I don't know if I could possibly have all of the sub-business planning in and if I could hear is that it's a parking thing. 513 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,700 So, I don't know if you can drive the rhythm through this, can even add a few more parking spots. 514 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:59,640 I'm just going to never have like your lots and I drove out this morning and there were four people parked on the right, 515 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,440 even in, you know, and it's just people who are just going to do it. It's hard to boy, but 516 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,000 the more parking you can jam and even if you can just put a couple more parking spots in 517 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,620 that. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we didn't even talk about that too, you know, once you 518 00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:16,960 start getting boots on a ground, it's like, you know, throw out the concept, you know, you get 519 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,660 different things, but like we had the dog park area in the back. Well, said they wanted to drop 520 00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:26,680 back there, you know, we'd like to have a little park area even back there. You know, you know, 521 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,620 was having, you know, back your football game, we're talking 522 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:31,560 game, whatever they wanted to drop back there in the park. 523 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,660 I think that something is definitely doable. 524 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,340 If you look at the amount of open space that we have available 525 00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:41,960 throughout the celebration, I think that's something we can have. 526 00:48:42,260 --> 00:48:43,820 Because, too, like, even our walking pass, 527 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,820 we plan for those to be asphalt. 528 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,060 So, you know, we wanted to be nice for kids round 529 00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:51,600 bicycles, well, not, you know, 530 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:53,100 my they want to build track, you know. 531 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:07,260 So yeah, I can occur with Alderman Jenins about where the dog park is, where you have proposed multi-use field. 532 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:13,580 I think a lot of people will drag, take their dogs down there, and park, and it would serve well as overflow parking. 533 00:49:14,060 --> 00:49:18,520 It may not, all the pay even that you're doing, it probably will make a lot of difference. 534 00:49:18,820 --> 00:49:19,960 Oh, absolutely. Probably. 535 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:26,580 And the, the, the school bus stops. That's really a good thing for the, 536 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,240 I think it's just a good selling point too. 537 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,600 I think people see that. They're going to appreciate that as well. 538 00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:35,080 So I'm glad to see that. 539 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,960 Well, we use the post plan as a follow-up myself and, you know, 540 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:46,700 I'll turn around, BMX, black, and stuff, you know, if we think about, you know, one child safety 541 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:53,500 and, you know, somewhere safe and then build a play and, you know, two navigating throughout 542 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,620 subdivision and not actually being the rowways at a tone, you know, if they're trying to get 543 00:49:57,620 --> 00:50:02,840 from the back from their house to walk, it was also, you know, that is something that we, 544 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:09,720 again, we're pushing that second time home by that growing family, so we're assuming that, 545 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:14,320 of designing that forward neighborhood that people don't move into the children's 546 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,100 community. 547 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:19,660 Eric, how is the track take that lead a drift and they're just going to be city picking 548 00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:20,620 up at each house? 549 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,060 I imagine so. 550 00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:29,000 No, I think that would be the most beneficial for the home owners. 551 00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:36,260 Just hope long as we have a sanitation plan that people are wearing the HOA's aware, how 552 00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:39,700 you can go see here, that's how it goes because it gets out of whack, we want to 553 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:45,060 come through with a side arm, being as efficient as we can, if there's cars and things in 554 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:49,960 the way we can't pick the can up right. So having that dedicated spot where they, everybody 555 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,440 will be understanding that's where you ought to be putting it. In some places, if you have a 556 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,620 bigger home with a bigger family, they're going to have two cans. I mean, myself, we have two cans. 557 00:50:59,020 --> 00:51:04,200 But I will say this to new cans that, you know, Carl's and then got here recently over the past 558 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:09,180 of years, they had the diagram, you know, on the track of the trash cans, says how far 559 00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:12,880 far, how far off the road, everything else should be. So again, that's something we can 560 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,860 include into the HLA, the big gravy, met at, you know, the city requirements of the track 561 00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:29,620 there. Big gravy. At your lift station, you've got gravel on the road. I guess that would be. 562 00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:32,940 All to access the lift station, yeah, for maintenance purposes. 563 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:35,920 So it would be gravel not a lot of dustless surface. 564 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,300 We'll have a problem as it's a busy coast, too. 565 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:39,820 Okay. 566 00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:47,820 Any other questions or comments? 567 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,720 I think it's been productive. 568 00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:53,960 And so hopefully we'll do more of these in the front end. 569 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,500 So appreciate you guys, Tom. 570 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,740 Thank you. 571 00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:58,580 Thank you guys for bringing a nice panel. 572 00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,220 Thank you. 573 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,520 But we've had a lot of help from the city. 574 00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:04,080 And next we have the neighborhood meeting. 575 00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:05,580 A lot of good comments. 576 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,520 That's what this plan reflects. 577 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:07,680 Thanks. 578 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:09,280 Thank you. 579 00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:12,780 Next, we'll go to police, Alderman Jinx. 580 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:14,900 Yeah. 581 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:14,960 Yeah. 582 00:52:14,980 --> 00:52:17,640 We got a first resolution, 25.22. 583 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,840 Some drive. 584 00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:19,480 This one? 585 00:52:20,980 --> 00:52:21,300 Hey. 586 00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:22,600 You need your thumb drive. 587 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:23,800 Here. 588 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:48,260 For the resolution of October I was five change orders and a net amount of 30,000, 192, 11, work contract, and then the construction eat for the purchase and installation of a still main goal frame, brick facade, and attend circuits for temporary office space, new bathroom and shower, and flooring, changing, two, three. 589 00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:57,980 We have motion, we have seconds. I think these were the ones that Chief brought to you the other day. I think he brought the only didn't bring to you was the brick facade, maybe, but it's a note charge. 590 00:52:57,980 --> 00:53:02,160 I don't think we discussed that the other day but it's a swap out on that one. 591 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:05,140 So. Any questions? 592 00:53:05,260 --> 00:53:07,140 I don't need a bathroom in there, do you? 593 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:09,560 We've got four positive in there. 594 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,680 All in favor say aye. 595 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,080 All opposed. 596 00:53:17,810 --> 00:53:19,550 Next one is resolution number 20. 597 00:53:19,690 --> 00:53:21,090 23. A resolution of the purchase. 598 00:53:21,350 --> 00:53:25,430 A certain idea five withdrawal items needed to enhance security and the parking 599 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:26,170 ready to move. 600 00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:28,530 We have a motion. We have a second. 601 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:34,290 Second and these relied on if we brought up, but I think you're cutting back on some of the some of you going to put in the budget 602 00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:36,690 That would you say in her yes a root cutting back on 603 00:53:37,630 --> 00:53:38,510 27 rifles 604 00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:40,210 27 optics and 605 00:53:40,750 --> 00:53:44,690 27 stop sticks going won't them now and then the other one you're going to put in the budget 606 00:53:44,690 --> 00:53:47,450 Yeah, that will that will just take three away from 607 00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:51,890 Art detective so hold control happens the tactics and have it and we'll get them 608 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:54,970 So we wrote the resolution it said 609 00:53:54,970 --> 00:54:00,090 It had an estimated call, so it would be less than that because we're taking out them out. 610 00:54:00,290 --> 00:54:00,950 They'll put them in the budget. 611 00:54:01,050 --> 00:54:02,410 Do we want to pull the flop too? 612 00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:03,410 We're going to leave it there. 613 00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:06,790 And then we kind of went back and forth on that and we talked about that. 614 00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:08,970 They might be a lot on the annual contract on that. 615 00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:10,170 Oh, no. 616 00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:11,450 Let's check it out. 617 00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:14,310 I'm going to tell you. 618 00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:14,650 I'm going to tell you. 619 00:54:14,650 --> 00:54:15,730 Well, Joji Denny. 620 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:18,070 Where are you at now, Joji? 621 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:19,290 Talk to us. 622 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:23,310 I'm just excited. 623 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:25,150 Well, I mean, 624 00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:30,090 I'm not going to drive a microman with the cheap he knows what he wants and what he needs 625 00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:30,730 there for it. 626 00:54:31,470 --> 00:54:36,370 To me it's thing like it would make more sense for that company to rent those things out 627 00:54:36,370 --> 00:54:36,790 on the special. 628 00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:38,010 Then that's when you might need them. 629 00:54:38,690 --> 00:54:41,630 Then to see you spend 25,000 a year for that freight ride. 630 00:54:41,970 --> 00:54:44,310 If that's something he thinks that he needs it is what it is. 631 00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:45,810 He runs it's part of that. 632 00:54:46,050 --> 00:54:50,190 But good news on this is you could do it for a year to see how he used it. 633 00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:54,310 And if he felt like he can ask for a re-up or not, maybe. 634 00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:55,470 So, absolutely. 635 00:54:56,570 --> 00:54:57,770 Yes, we'll test it out. 636 00:54:58,070 --> 00:54:59,210 See if it works. 637 00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:01,710 It could be used 24-7 and just move it all over the place. 638 00:55:01,730 --> 00:55:03,610 Maybe the best thing he ever purchased, I don't know. 639 00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:04,270 It could be. 640 00:55:04,270 --> 00:55:07,690 It could be something we get back up for the first year. 641 00:55:07,830 --> 00:55:11,510 And you may, you may, after a year, say it with more 25 grand from what we got out of it. 642 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:12,450 You know, I don't know. 643 00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:12,870 Yes, sure. 644 00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:18,910 I would rather say you put five more flock cameras throughout the CD for what that's going to call. 645 00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:24,950 Also, yeah, my mom the thing is it's a what a third of my office or roughly 646 00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:29,050 I'll show a benefits to everything we're looking at one or maybe not we may not still be able to do that 647 00:55:29,050 --> 00:55:32,630 But we're looking at one of the officers and it's like what we're going to you know, just a recurring experience 648 00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:36,690 That's what I'm going to do 649 00:55:36,690 --> 00:55:39,010 Mom depends on you 650 00:55:39,010 --> 00:55:41,010 Speak your piece 651 00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:48,620 But, you know, on the man to do something as you can, sir, we're fixing about this. 652 00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:53,000 Well, on pro-flocum, my question is, just simply, do we need to remove those three items, 653 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:59,120 only stop sticks, patrol rifles, and optics, to make sure this meets all requirements. 654 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,560 They'll even requirements that we've been needed for, what, to purchase them? 655 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,180 Chief Arnold. 656 00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:09,400 Well, he'll only be purchased in his meanies he needs. 657 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,140 I mean, is that he's saying that he needs to be reduced, or that he's not purchased in all of them? 658 00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:17,360 Right. I think what you're asking, does it need to be amended? 659 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,000 This, yeah, do we need to amend this from 30 to 27 to make sure that the numbers? 660 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:23,560 I'm with you, which you're saying. 661 00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:29,760 So, this per clarification, say, you're only one in 27 stop sticks. 662 00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,980 Yes, 27 rifles and 27 optics. Yes, okay. 663 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,220 So, let's, is that an amendment? 664 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,160 That's an amendment. 665 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,560 All right, so we've got a motion to amend 666 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,640 from 30, 30, 30, 30, 20, 7, 8, do I have a second? 667 00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:46,140 Second. 668 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,260 Any discussion on the Mending 25, 23 on those? 669 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:51,900 What's the cost difference? 670 00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:53,540 What if our cost goes down? 671 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:56,560 I'll have to calculate it out, but... 672 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:57,240 What? 673 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,080 I've tried to pull a PDF up on these things. 674 00:56:59,180 --> 00:57:00,440 Any one of those mobile PDFs? 675 00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:01,940 A couple thousand, not. 676 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,740 It's not, you know, but it's a little leech. 677 00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:06,520 I mean, when you look at it, you can divide it out. 678 00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:07,780 It's 30, get to that. 679 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,640 It ain't very much. 680 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:18,280 that's $1,500 stopsticks, $2,500 for the optics. That's $6,000 for ourselves. 681 00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:21,160 He's trying to get these orders so he can have them ready for the strawberry. 682 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,700 We're looking at save and angry and I mean, he's not the save and it's just being able to order him quickly. 683 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,580 Say who? It's not the savings as much as it is to be able to order quickly. 684 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,020 Trying to get him in quicker and then the other ones are going to budget. 685 00:57:35,020 --> 00:58:03,940 The stop sticks and the optics get pretty quick. The rifles are, it's just, it's, I mean, we get in bulk at one time, it's, it's out of the air, get them wholesale, it's what we'll have to do, uh, quotes and, I mean, 686 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:07,260 was we're back to 25-23 as amended. 687 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Chief Arnold, the block driver, is that something you want to go for? 688 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,460 We're at there. 689 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,080 It's something you'd rather say that you'd for. 690 00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:16,400 That money. 691 00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:18,240 It is a lot of money. 692 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,040 And I agree with you. 693 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,620 The sticker shock was rough. 694 00:58:23,260 --> 00:58:28,020 I'm for at least a year, just to see how it could be, because I think it'd be great 695 00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:28,600 for festivals. 696 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,940 We could put it in the parks throughout the year. 697 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,980 We could move it to the high, high, high, high, high. 698 00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:34,640 There is stuff that's popping up. 699 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:35,700 We can put out there. 700 00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,840 It's, until we use it and see what its capabilities are, 701 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,280 it'd be hard to say. 702 00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:45,480 Can't use it. 703 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,580 I'm like, Dodo, I wish we could rent them. 704 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:48,880 I think it's a great market. 705 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,520 I think it's a company's miss and a boat. 706 00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:51,080 How'd they go? 707 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:52,480 That's my question immediately. 708 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,260 I'll let you rent them. 709 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:54,780 Because we could rent for them. 710 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,760 I mean, for a festival. 711 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,100 I mean, we'd just rent them off a good, but... 712 00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,820 Is that the problem with the cameras? 713 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,640 Is they can't, can't position them exactly where you 714 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,980 and you may have a camera, but it's not necessarily covering the area that it's going to be. 715 00:59:08,140 --> 00:59:12,700 So the flock cameras that are stationary actually are only designed to read last flights and vehicles. 716 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,900 Oh, okay. 717 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,200 These monsters. 718 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,820 These monitor for all these people in an area that they're distributed to. 719 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,880 And I haven't just read cameras like they're triggered. 720 00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:24,460 Yeah. 721 00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:24,780 I'm sorry. 722 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,060 You could put them up before. 723 00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:27,640 You know, anywhere. 724 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:32,420 And the camera system you can actually put it in LPR. 725 00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:37,560 camera on that system of course that's more fun. Yeah, you have a lot to even I've had 726 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,260 whatever your life thoughts or whatever all the time you've been logging to the 727 00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:43,860 app and I'm just a full access to the camera system where do we go? 728 00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:51,020 Yes, there's with our current system and any of our officers can log in and we can 729 00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:55,380 log in out to others and I believe as well and be able to look and see what's going on 730 00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:59,480 any given time. It's somebody going to be monitoring these cameras at all time. 731 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,440 B is if you spend 25 rent on the trailer, do you think it's a more nobody looks at it? Two or three times a day, what happened when you weren't looking at it? 732 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:14,640 And it's more for one, it's a deterrent, and another, if something does happen, we can, in that area, it's hard to pull it back. 733 01:00:15,460 --> 01:00:25,560 It's always recording, it's not sure how long that video lasts, I know if you are records, it's about 30 days, so something that's happened. 734 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,880 We can see what we're getting in their video and pull a video. 735 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:29,320 Well, I'm kind of the way you describe the two. 736 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,740 You've got a station that's a version of Parker 1A and somebody else goes to be there. 737 01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:35,940 It gets to send them to another page and somebody's walking from the camera, 738 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,960 knocks to the ball, or whatever. 739 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,240 It picks up people. 740 01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:40,840 So it would like send them to the page to an officer and they could be like, 741 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,160 okay, somebody's in an area that not goes to be there or whatever. 742 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,680 If you get a call, you can look at it, you can see what's going on before you get there, too. 743 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,560 That's another thing. 744 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:55,080 There's also integrity in the flock system like any time I log in to check 745 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,140 for tags or whatever owner, it knows I'm a line. 746 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,160 It logs that I'm the one looking at it. 747 01:01:00,380 --> 01:01:02,120 So the same way that they had it would keep up, 748 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,900 but you know, it's somebody who's trying to be a spy 749 01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:05,560 and just looks at what's going on. 750 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:08,360 It shows an hour trail, who's on and what they're looking at. 751 01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:09,140 That's what they're looking at. 752 01:01:09,220 --> 01:01:10,140 So this, 753 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,540 I'm gonna trust, it's even knows what it wants to. 754 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,640 Well actually, we try for a year. 755 01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:19,440 You don't, you don't turn out. 756 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,360 You don't have to re-up it, but we're going to get our okay to vote. 757 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,420 We can vote like well. 758 01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,420 All right, so 25, 23 as amended. 759 01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:31,260 All in favor say aye. 760 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:31,980 All opposed. 761 01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:32,880 Okay. 762 01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:34,480 Thank you. 763 01:01:34,660 --> 01:01:34,860 Thank you. 764 01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:35,060 Thank you. 765 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,020 Next up, Public Works. 766 01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:37,760 I'll move it. 767 01:01:37,780 --> 01:01:39,860 We've got a resolution number 25-24. 768 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,820 It's a resolution authorizing the city of Portland. 769 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,560 Participate in safety partners. 770 01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:45,040 Matching grant program. 771 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,680 Move to approve. 772 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,080 We have a motion of a second. 773 01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:49,660 And so we do this on a regular basis. 774 01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:51,980 And how much money was in this one? 775 01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:52,600 Six thousand. 776 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:53,320 Six thousand. 777 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,600 Six thousand. 778 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,400 So then we. 779 01:01:55,820 --> 01:01:58,060 What was your purchase in on that one? 780 01:01:58,060 --> 01:02:04,400 We got beer case for strawberry festival. We got a few light bars for free trucks. I think we got four of those 781 01:02:05,660 --> 01:02:11,420 We got to take the cabinet for the stormwater department for chemicals and gasoline 782 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,520 All right 783 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,720 All of every say yeah 784 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:21,140 All opposed and then you got a discussion item. I think Carlton's so 785 01:02:21,140 --> 01:02:22,120 So discussion item is 786 01:02:22,780 --> 01:02:25,980 for the two properties that's located on the west 787 01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:33,620 West McLaughlin, yes, three hundred and four one, West McLaughlin. It's the 788 01:02:33,620 --> 01:02:40,140 Sinistery area down there would we've done several engineer studies on that area right 789 01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:44,860 there by the church, the Emmanuel thing to see me about this if I'm not mistaken, but 790 01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:49,700 that area is in service for having a lot of water coming out of the hill. Two 791 01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:54,900 properties are up for auction. I don't know that's the right word now, Miss Bradley. 792 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,780 But they went auction and didn't sell, but now we want to try to get them. 793 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,020 So if I got a bunch of lanes up there and calling them that the city's been moan or something 794 01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:09,200 for years, what's the nut is the next sale? 795 01:03:09,580 --> 01:03:15,280 Well they've been sued for property tax every year, I also tell them that they only have a 796 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,400 delinquent tax sale every few years, and then when we had was in December, so they will not 797 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,400 be another many times. 798 01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:24,720 So one of these was purchased, went to the delinquent tax committee. 799 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,900 When that's something that we can bid on that, we can buy from the New England tax pay. 800 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,500 The other one we'd like for it to go to the New England tax pay, if they can do that or not. 801 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,560 We wouldn't want to have to have a special tax sale for a report. 802 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,020 How long expensive are you going to do? 803 01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:42,100 How does the purchase work come in? 804 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,760 The lanes are to us. 805 01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:48,720 How do we can always foreclose on a lane? 806 01:03:50,610 --> 01:03:57,550 soon to see all her leads and then take the land of the president's potential you don't have a picture where this is okay 807 01:03:59,890 --> 01:04:03,090 What did you do terrible struck her down to make the attention partner? 808 01:04:03,550 --> 01:04:09,190 It's no structures. Yeah, so this goes back a long time. We've already torn down the structure 809 01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:11,450 That was one of the links 810 01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:14,950 So the structure was torn down back in 811 01:04:15,970 --> 01:04:19,430 I can't remember what year it was, but it's been over 10 years 812 01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:25,910 What I mean is anybody are top of the land over there. I think they try to make contact in the park 813 01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:29,310 We keep sending lanes because we're the maintenance, but I know one area 814 01:04:29,310 --> 01:04:33,570 He wanted to have a little detention area to slow some of that flow of water in that area 815 01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:43,400 It was assumed we owned it long time, but we pulled record. We didn't own it. We just had a bunch of loans on that side 816 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,460 We miles along it. We've been 817 01:04:45,460 --> 01:04:47,260 Maintenance in it forever 818 01:04:47,260 --> 01:04:51,520 So here's the first lot which is at inner end of center street 819 01:04:54,040 --> 01:05:02,540 So right behind the church, they may be able to do a little bit of home, they built the new homes, the crosses, all that they're down in the street. 820 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,940 You think they could ever build the home? 821 01:05:04,780 --> 01:05:06,040 That's probably that. 822 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,300 Now I saw the issue with that property is the lowest point, so it holds water. 823 01:05:10,580 --> 01:05:12,980 So it's natural to touch upon and it's in itself. 824 01:05:13,660 --> 01:05:17,440 We would just dig it out more to try to slide it water down before it gets. 825 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,440 Across this road. 826 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:25,440 So, I don't know if you guys have ever driven down the street to see this home that was built here, 827 01:05:25,820 --> 01:05:31,720 but we had them build that up about four blocks high, because the water was coming at it so fast, it's so much. 828 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:38,560 And then on the other side of that, it's the manual Baptist Church, and that's where they have the materials used with the flood, as well. 829 01:05:38,740 --> 01:05:39,400 Getting to the buildings. 830 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,940 And then the second property, 831 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,980 the second property is owned down the street, 832 01:05:49,060 --> 01:05:50,300 which is this lot as well. 833 01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:54,320 And I believe this is the one that we had toward down, if I'm not mistaken. 834 01:05:55,540 --> 01:06:00,500 Mouse isn't working, but it's just cornered a lot right here in the same situation where 835 01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:01,660 it just holds water. 836 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,800 And actually, the home next to it, in terms of it took kind of a lake as well, whenever it rains 837 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,780 heavily, because it's just a low point, and it's built so low. 838 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,800 So how do we pursue something like that, because if we've got all the lanes, is there a way 839 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,680 that we could get in there? 840 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,840 The county also has, I mean, the county checks is about three times the city checks. 841 01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:25,600 They've got a much bigger stake in this than we do. 842 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,600 And from talking to Crop, I was going to check, but we're going to talk about tonight. 843 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,280 But you can only go back 10 years old taxes. 844 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,000 Some of these have been paying over 10 years. 845 01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:39,000 So the county, the county, should have been the link with tax, 846 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,300 and maybe they should take ownership. 847 01:06:40,660 --> 01:06:43,560 But these lots of anything is over 10 years old. 848 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:50,280 But I'm out of it, I've got people with certain people who get that done and good luck with that. 849 01:06:52,650 --> 01:06:59,950 Maybe we can pursue that and you kind of show us how this whole world know, I mean, if it's, well, an option that has to get it. 850 01:07:01,270 --> 01:07:11,310 We could even, I suppose, we could foreclose on our tax line, but out of the county, there's nothing that nobody ever does, and the county really discouraged that, and I don't think the change for what's to do that. 851 01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:13,370 I don't want different cities going on different directions. 852 01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:14,710 I want them to have these taxis. 853 01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:17,050 There's a lot involved in the taxis. 854 01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:18,990 They did tile searches and they advertised 855 01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:21,370 and it's a pretty big process. 856 01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:23,530 That's why they don't do it every year. 857 01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:25,210 Because it's sorry. 858 01:07:25,330 --> 01:07:26,710 I mean, most jurisdictions don't. 859 01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:29,970 I mean, they want to in Knoxville and that taxis. 860 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:40,500 7 years, and pay tax. Well, I wanted these properties. It didn't get up for, like I said, it went for option back in December. Nobody being on it. It's, it's the lowest point in the neighborhood. 861 01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:45,560 In the reason I didn't, but the other one owns that sales, because they didn't think about it by the back, because the one was piece of profit. 862 01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:50,360 This one, the ones that put the tax sale, the ones that the hopes of my will come in and pay the back tax. 863 01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:53,680 Some of them, they're just giving up on it and this, this is what this is. 864 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,780 Well, I think that we could probably get, we could probably make an offer to the Lincoln Tax Committee 865 01:07:58,780 --> 01:08:01,100 to where they clear out all the back taxes. 866 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:01,980 That's part of the county. 867 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,200 So, thanks for that. 868 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,560 And that's something to talk to them about. 869 01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:07,020 Okay. 870 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,400 It just came up a few days ago. 871 01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:09,020 No, I know. 872 01:08:09,460 --> 01:08:12,840 But we spend a lot of maintenance on where we're sending crews. 873 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:15,020 The mob calls when we don't know. 874 01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:17,700 Everybody's complaining about the file grown-up. 875 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,900 So we're maintenance. 876 01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:23,560 And so, but you just dig it out and use it as a like a retention patch, what you want. 877 01:08:23,740 --> 01:08:27,360 That's what we've done engineers studies on this whole area. 878 01:08:28,340 --> 01:08:32,720 And that is one of the identified areas for a potential home department. 879 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,520 Even if it only holds the common right event, it helps more than nothing. 880 01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:41,580 But we already have spent money on engineering. 881 01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:46,780 And if the city goes ahead and does this project after a year, city can only, 882 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,220 What did they have bottled to it or not? They have first kind of nature. That's all of the way. 883 01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:51,940 We don't need anything. 884 01:08:52,580 --> 01:08:53,540 We don't need anything. 885 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,740 We don't want to go out there without a deed or something you dig apart. 886 01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:59,240 It's the last worst thing you can tell about. 887 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:00,600 He's got to think it. 888 01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:01,260 He has to think it to be the answer. 889 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,020 I do like it. 890 01:09:04,020 --> 01:09:05,520 I'll give it some guidance on that. 891 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,700 I think the answer is bad. 892 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,780 I think that's the reason we have everything. 893 01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:12,220 Nobody knows who knows his name and the discipline because of his answer. 894 01:09:12,740 --> 01:09:13,500 We'll pursue it. 895 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:13,780 Okay. 896 01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:15,140 Thank you. 897 01:09:16,620 --> 01:09:18,160 Anything else on the public work? 898 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:18,920 That's it sir. 899 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,640 Now utilities are on the code. 900 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,540 I've got a discussion about water maintenance. 901 01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:28,400 So Brian has some information about water maintenance, but we also had 902 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,920 Communication with what else utility they're like. 903 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,780 Kind of encourages maybe. 904 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,180 We might want to rethink that a little bit. 905 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,180 They could have us a Brian come share what you got there. 906 01:09:50,290 --> 01:09:53,550 So basically it was a mixture of what we had talked about before. 907 01:09:53,550 --> 01:10:02,030 but I added something because there's two parts to the meter you get the transmitter and the 908 01:10:02,030 --> 01:10:06,870 meter itself. The transmitters are what's going on. That's what the meter meters are. I have 909 01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:11,770 to read the actual meter by hand. Now the old meters are old and worn out need to be placed anyways, 910 01:10:12,110 --> 01:10:17,550 but to give you an idea how quickly they're failing. On February 14th you had 451 that needed 911 01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:23,990 replacement, March 11th, he had 591, it's up close to 600 now. You could see how many 912 01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:31,310 atrons that is the transmitter we have in stock. We've got some coming and then the meter 913 01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:39,210 itself is a cam shrub meter. We have over 1,400 to them. And then from the bid price that 914 01:10:39,210 --> 01:10:47,790 got, that's orders 24.57 you can see the cost of replace it's 75.5 bucks a meter. It was 915 01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:53,130 asked to look at like 300 or 500 so I gave you the cost for those. And then we also broke 916 01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:59,950 it down here as far as a city employees doing it. And if you look at the average overtime cost, 917 01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:04,350 the individual meters for us do, it's about 48 bucks a meter. So it's cheaper for us to do it. 918 01:11:04,410 --> 01:11:09,090 You get more done if you get somebody in, so in my recommendation here was since 919 01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:15,630 We're losing around 100 meters per month now, move forward with G&C and stalling 500, but 920 01:11:15,630 --> 01:11:19,330 we'll also continue using the water department to replace meters as part of the scheduled 921 01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:22,950 overtime, and Tom and I had already talked about getting that done. 922 01:11:23,370 --> 01:11:24,830 That's a short term to solution. 923 01:11:24,970 --> 01:11:31,250 A long term solution, you have about another 5,000 meters that need to be replaced. 924 01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:38,870 You get the 500 done as part of the short term, and then you've got these quoted prices 925 01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:47,670 and you could see the dates when I got the quotes in it was after our last meeting, and the total to do all this to do the overall would be about $2 million. 926 01:11:48,490 --> 01:11:53,050 Well, you currently got a meter base to you that generates $60,000 of revenue a year. 927 01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:59,150 You could not have to increase any rates and you could do this by just using your meter base fee revenue. 928 01:11:59,310 --> 01:12:07,110 You'd have to go and get a loan for it, and the life of these meters or 20 years you get a loan over 10, maybe 15 years. 929 01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:14,150 Rachel and I actually had it don't go over 15 but whatever the $360,000 would cover in debt 930 01:12:14,150 --> 01:12:17,650 service. No right increase would be required to do this. 931 01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:21,970 What was the email we got from the White House YouTube District saying they could do this 932 01:12:21,970 --> 01:12:25,530 cheaper than we could. So what did they say? They do it themselves. 933 01:12:25,890 --> 01:12:30,730 Well we were having this conversation last meeting so I asked bringing back and then we just shared 934 01:12:30,730 --> 01:12:36,970 be able to say, hey, I want to consider that we're doing a meter change out. We might be able 935 01:12:36,970 --> 01:12:40,770 to do this better for you. So that was the comment. We just got that email. So sure, 936 01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:45,610 I had this line done. If I was curious, do we need to move on that or like I think we better 937 01:12:45,610 --> 01:12:50,950 off having a conversation with him and just in more in depth about short, near-term and long-term. 938 01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:55,570 That's only if they take us over, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not totally sober, but they take us over. 939 01:12:56,110 --> 01:12:59,950 With this new grand and the particular one on my own, I'm not much a week. We hand over anything. 940 01:12:59,950 --> 01:13:02,690 Come on the one-on-one now, what was the one-on-one thing? 941 01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:04,950 I have to get to the grand need run. 942 01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:08,530 You know, a few years down the road, you have to run one-on-one. 943 01:13:09,710 --> 01:13:10,330 Good man, Brian. 944 01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:13,210 That's something that we had discussed coming out of the gap. 945 01:13:14,430 --> 01:13:16,910 I think what we were looking at over here was the fact 946 01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:19,950 that I hate to use the word so far behind, 947 01:13:20,090 --> 01:13:22,670 but we've got so many that need to be replaced right now. 948 01:13:23,170 --> 01:13:25,910 And when I see over time, I'm just, I'm starting to wonder, 949 01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:28,630 how many do our guys put in a... 950 01:13:31,150 --> 01:13:35,570 But what Rachel and I did was go and look at the overtime budget for the year and that department 951 01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:40,530 sixty-four thousand dollars, we spent right now around thirty thousand dollars, so you're still 952 01:13:40,530 --> 01:13:44,230 less than fifty percent of the overtime budget for the year and we're over halfway. 953 01:13:44,350 --> 01:13:48,190 They're not putting them in overtime, they're putting them in the regular duty day, right? 954 01:13:48,350 --> 01:13:50,470 Yes, right now, we have not done any scheduled overtime. 955 01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:55,410 Based off how many years have and go back a month, it just seemed, I don't want to talk for anybody 956 01:13:55,410 --> 01:14:01,550 It's not here, but I think a group of us, we're looking at it just be easier to give him. 957 01:14:01,570 --> 01:14:07,070 Let him put the 500 in now, catch him up while the guys continue to work forward on these 958 01:14:07,070 --> 01:14:11,070 hundred that keep going out. I have a concern, though, about how many we haven't stock. 959 01:14:12,130 --> 01:14:19,270 If we're not able to put him out, and we're ordering 600, and we've got 1,400 stock 2,000, 960 01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:23,530 and we're barely getting them out. That's a little concerning because that's money. 961 01:14:24,710 --> 01:14:27,690 We were ordering and put them out, that's why you had those in stock. 962 01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:30,790 You have $1400 on hand with $600 on order? 963 01:14:31,210 --> 01:14:31,390 Yes. 964 01:14:31,810 --> 01:14:35,190 $2,000, $2,000 coming in or on hand. 965 01:14:36,370 --> 01:14:37,690 We don't know how many people have put out of that. 966 01:14:37,710 --> 01:14:40,010 We have $1,400 meters, I had to pull them back up. 967 01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:42,110 But you have $300 on your stock. 968 01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:43,290 $300 is $3,000. 969 01:14:43,290 --> 01:14:43,770 $3,000 is $3,000. 970 01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:47,070 And then you have another $300 on your stock. 971 01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:49,450 And then you have another $300 off of that. 972 01:14:50,050 --> 01:14:53,690 There's a difference between the transmitter and the meter. 973 01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:59,790 Still seems like a lot of 1,500 if we can't keep up with what we currently have 1,500. 974 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,360 Stocks seems like quite a bit. Each one of those items has a call to it. 975 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:11,300 Yeah, and the last bit that we bought was because they went to KGB, which is not so utility board. 976 01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:14,500 And Knoxville did not meet them, and we were able to get them at a discounted rate. 977 01:15:17,130 --> 01:15:21,370 If I remember, did you say that your guys were doing like 18 or 20 a day? Is that right? 978 01:15:21,710 --> 01:15:25,290 They can get up to 20 a day and they wouldn't do it every day. 979 01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:28,970 No, because they got other duties, but also we have been cutting back on overtime. 980 01:15:28,970 --> 01:15:31,270 we have not done any schedule in the other time. 981 01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:35,830 I don't need any action from the committee to be able to do the 500 and do the other 982 01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:36,050 time. 983 01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:37,450 It's already built into the budget. 984 01:15:37,710 --> 01:15:39,270 That's what the body wants to do. 985 01:15:39,410 --> 01:15:40,210 We do that. 986 01:15:40,530 --> 01:15:45,270 We've already purchased the meters and we've already purchased the transmitters. 987 01:15:59,580 --> 01:16:00,980 The questions for Brian? 988 01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:05,920 You don't need anything for what else to say, what you said. 989 01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,360 The wheels for me to move four meters. 990 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,100 I don't need anything. 991 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:09,780 There you go. 992 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,540 Because the budget, it's already in the budget. 993 01:16:12,540 --> 01:16:28,020 We've already purchased the majors, we've already purchased the transmeters, and there's enough money in the budget to pay G and C, and the body is already approved the ordinance that allowed G and C to do this is $75 a meter, the money is already there. 994 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,820 It needs an action from this body if you're allocating money to it that's not already budgeted. 995 01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:35,080 Well, what house statements is it? 996 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,340 The approaches, the leaders we already have to be doing right. 997 01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:41,960 Where White House will say you is not paying the $75 per meter for installed because they 998 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,540 have their own staff and they average about 1,500 a year and they said, so what they would 999 01:16:46,540 --> 01:16:51,180 do would be to absorb this in and they do about 1,500 a year and just go through their whole 1000 01:16:51,180 --> 01:16:51,880 system manual. 1001 01:16:52,460 --> 01:16:56,580 When they get to the end of the system, they've made it to the, usually, the life of that 1002 01:16:56,580 --> 01:16:57,840 leader and they start back over. 1003 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,380 I just keep going to circle, they have a group of guys that do this. 1004 01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:09,570 So the savings is in the installation. Now they also apparently have a different 1005 01:17:10,410 --> 01:17:16,350 Transmitter. It's a still an eye trombid. They use a slightly different transmitter, which has a slightly different cost difference as well 1006 01:17:16,350 --> 01:17:17,950 We use a cellular transmitter 1007 01:17:17,950 --> 01:17:18,770 And 1008 01:17:24,690 --> 01:17:31,670 I think we're going to have to ask them I mean you all been getting the communication and why not should you do the districts many many times 1009 01:17:31,670 --> 01:17:37,830 We moving forward we're moving forward and we keep saying we're moving forward and they're expanding a lot of time and money 1010 01:17:38,690 --> 01:17:46,410 going over this system. And because we've said, we've not indicated anything. I'll 1011 01:17:46,410 --> 01:17:51,510 see in all the communications that we're moving forward. They are in the middle 1012 01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:58,090 of this thing. GIS, water modeling. I mean, this is, this thing's up we just, why I'm 1013 01:17:58,090 --> 01:18:00,870 concerned about this, make your change out if we don't need to just let them do it. 1014 01:18:00,890 --> 01:18:04,930 Well, that's what I'm saying. We need to figure out what we are here because they don't know. 1015 01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:10,110 He's asked me any time after we moving forward and I said nobody's ever indicated me that we're not 1016 01:18:11,330 --> 01:18:12,790 Because this is an opportunity 1017 01:18:14,450 --> 01:18:19,290 I get it nobody likes to lose control with nothing I get to what we just took both to see if they would do it 1018 01:18:19,290 --> 01:18:24,670 If we haven't really took the vote to say yeah, we're going to hand it over and I think we we may need to well the vote 1019 01:18:28,450 --> 01:18:28,850 Tom 1020 01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:33,510 But now we have this on a contract like a formal contract 1021 01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:37,870 we're getting real close to that, as far as I would think, right, as far as 1022 01:18:37,870 --> 01:18:38,430 on in that. 1023 01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:42,750 Some sort of a ten or contract, where we're not going back, you know, 1024 01:18:42,890 --> 01:18:43,650 once in a while. 1025 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:47,110 Well, my concern is if we reusing this grant and burning the money, we 1026 01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:54,810 run that 3MGD all the way through up here, do we need what else? 1027 01:18:57,310 --> 01:18:59,410 Well, I've gone by, I don't know if we're going to be doing an hour long 1028 01:18:59,410 --> 01:19:04,990 discussion tonight, or two hour or three hour hour, or one of those 1029 01:19:04,990 --> 01:19:07,170 of riots, stuff down multiple people on it. 1030 01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:09,810 And let's still go back to that they probably got 1031 01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:12,050 capacity to run our system better than we can run our system, 1032 01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:16,310 provide better long-term sustainability and we can't. 1033 01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:18,670 We could certainly have as weeks to have to maintain 1034 01:19:18,670 --> 01:19:19,390 our society. 1035 01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:21,830 You know, they get to control it and we still have to spend the money. 1036 01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:23,090 No, no, no, no. 1037 01:19:23,170 --> 01:19:23,510 There's there. 1038 01:19:23,730 --> 01:19:23,930 There's there. 1039 01:19:24,650 --> 01:19:25,550 We're done there. 1040 01:19:26,430 --> 01:19:28,570 It's literally all the upgrades and that's literally. 1041 01:19:28,690 --> 01:19:30,050 It's like C.M.T. 1042 01:19:30,230 --> 01:19:31,590 At this point there. 1043 01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:41,750 And we would position, and as I said early on, and I've been trying to be as transparent, I was a little concerned. 1044 01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:50,150 But my goal is to settle it in the city of Portland for water, and not worry about it. 1045 01:19:50,150 --> 01:19:54,070 We would have an opportunity to have a major transmission line on the east. 1046 01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:58,410 We would have a connection running if they want house utility district going south. 1047 01:19:58,830 --> 01:20:00,110 We would tie to their system. 1048 01:20:00,830 --> 01:20:04,250 They would manage the inside of the system where the water needs to move. 1049 01:20:04,330 --> 01:20:07,250 How to do the upgrades along turn plan. 1050 01:20:08,150 --> 01:20:09,930 And we wouldn't be worrying about water. 1051 01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:11,150 We would have three sources. 1052 01:20:11,150 --> 01:20:12,910 You would be coming out of the east. 1053 01:20:13,070 --> 01:20:13,830 You would be coming out of the water. 1054 01:20:14,190 --> 01:20:15,870 You would be coming out of the plan. 1055 01:20:16,810 --> 01:20:18,890 We would be in actually better position. 1056 01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:20,150 We would have been in our lives. 1057 01:20:21,710 --> 01:20:25,850 And, uh, let's have it up here on the summer. You can't wash your cars, 1058 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:27,770 who are your laws, and all that will be over there. 1059 01:20:27,930 --> 01:20:28,710 Because of the drought? 1060 01:20:29,410 --> 01:20:34,370 We need to get to a point, where we, but they have some sort of a ten-and-tall money, 1061 01:20:34,630 --> 01:20:37,510 and how this actually looks, you know, is, did we decide, by, 1062 01:20:37,630 --> 01:20:39,490 do we figure out, like, the meat out there, we don't? 1063 01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:44,890 Let's make sure the rates are comparable to other regions, and it's safe for citizens. 1064 01:20:44,890 --> 01:20:52,010 that's what we don't. We have trouble rates. Well that's part of the negotiation what I'm saying. 1065 01:20:54,330 --> 01:20:59,970 They have the ability in greater value on the moon than just the way it is. 1066 01:21:00,330 --> 01:21:03,230 I would think the only thing that you could really do at that point, like I've said, 1067 01:21:03,390 --> 01:21:06,930 there was a project that you really wanted to sit in. 1068 01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:09,790 It was going to create a massive tax base, some sort of big development, 1069 01:21:10,370 --> 01:21:13,090 Walmart, Dixport, whatever. They were putting a bunch of stuff in. 1070 01:21:13,090 --> 01:21:17,010 I would think you could say, you could go up because I want one kick in two million or whatever 1071 01:21:17,010 --> 01:21:17,450 in the cities. 1072 01:21:17,770 --> 01:21:18,410 We really want that. 1073 01:21:18,610 --> 01:21:22,370 I mean, if this committee might be right, we're willing to kick in 500,000 or whatever. 1074 01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:24,870 I would think you'd probably kick in the bottom of that point. 1075 01:21:25,550 --> 01:21:25,990 That would be good. 1076 01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:27,250 We'll forget it all done. 1077 01:21:27,690 --> 01:21:28,330 But now we wouldn't. 1078 01:21:28,610 --> 01:21:31,190 I mean, it would probably be, you know, it's a White House water at that point. 1079 01:21:31,290 --> 01:21:37,310 You could take, you could take general fund money to support a retail action if you need 1080 01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:37,950 to. 1081 01:21:38,050 --> 01:21:41,770 If you were trying to land something major, we would be like the developer. 1082 01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:56,830 One thing I wanted to point out is that if they're subject to the same kind of state regulations with rate setting that the city is to, I mean, they're not a pride at utility, they are a public utility, just like if the Portland doesn't have public utility. 1083 01:21:57,510 --> 01:22:03,850 So it's not like they can just set the rates out and they won't do for Portland, you know, to subsidize everybody else and they can't do that. 1084 01:22:04,210 --> 01:22:08,930 They have to go by the same rules of the city of Portland, and that the district's have to go by. 1085 01:22:08,930 --> 01:22:13,390 I mean it may be higher, I'm going to say it wouldn't be higher, but they start to go through the same process. 1086 01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:21,130 But what we were initially given was doing it our sail can run in the water line and us maintain it. 1087 01:22:21,190 --> 01:22:26,930 It was going as a 300% mark at the water rates and that is when we said that came up. 1088 01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:29,970 And so just from a historic... 1089 01:22:31,660 --> 01:22:57,980 We are landing a 40 million dollar project for 10, we've worked on this thing for, remember this entire grant for Portland, let's just be honest. Other people are benefiting from it, but we have worked this thing for over two years and they have come through for us here in the city of Portland and we're getting a 40 million dollar transmission line for 10 million dollars. 1090 01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:00,440 I mean, that's, that's, that's amazing. 1091 01:23:02,060 --> 01:23:04,780 And, um, so I don't want to overlook that. 1092 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,140 And we may even be able to figure out how to, 1093 01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:09,800 maybe see more reductions to that, that number, 1094 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,800 which it benefits us, 1095 01:23:11,860 --> 01:23:13,120 or what, how should you tell the district, 1096 01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:14,880 who ever is operating it? 1097 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,760 Because the less number that goes into that service 1098 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,180 is better off with the right player, 1099 01:23:19,180 --> 01:23:20,400 no matter who it is. 1100 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:21,660 And then the appreciation. 1101 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,060 And even, you know, one of our recent meetings and dons in, 1102 01:23:25,220 --> 01:23:26,860 and I said, you know, this is, 1103 01:23:26,860 --> 01:23:30,400 It's a good deal. You don't want to pass a deal up, right? Because of the money. 1104 01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:38,260 Do we do we know if it's a call saving or a higher calls volume for us to get what house was to 1105 01:23:38,260 --> 01:23:44,200 assume the system? I'm not sure that I could answer that. I don't know that they could at this point, 1106 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:51,560 but their goal is to have everyone their customers have the exact same right. That's what we were 1107 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:59,340 don't know about for a city like what we spend now that's gonna go away but we still 1108 01:23:59,340 --> 01:24:03,420 have the employees. Well I'm going to umbrella it up so you know one of the things 1109 01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:06,120 that we need to do is figure out just like we were talking about the billing 1110 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:12,600 person. Are we moving what's the timing on that we help out hiring somebody because 1111 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,660 we may not need to hire them we just move somebody. So you're taking one of the 1112 01:24:16,660 --> 01:24:21,080 largest accounts is over 8,000 meters that's a lot of activity on the 1113 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:32,780 financing in on the billing in and all that as with but we'd have other employees to that I think we can move inside of our own system because we're always hiring or moving people 1114 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:37,940 So we have some valuable people if they didn't want to if they didn't want to move to someone else 1115 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:45,560 I'm sure we could figure out how to move them inside of our organization and keep them there because we've got some great employees there, right? 1116 01:24:50,140 --> 01:24:50,680 And 1117 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,840 whatever whatever they decided to work out and I think they might that all 1118 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,760 because I don't I don't think those people are concerned I think they because they would keep the 1119 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:04,060 plants what we were told they would keep the plant right so but we're right now they're they're 1120 01:25:04,060 --> 01:25:09,560 they're expanding a lot of energy and money they've been they've had engineers going over 1121 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:16,700 doing a full GIS model a full hydraulic model and they're going to understand how this system 1122 01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:20,760 really works. Remember, we've been saying we haven't hit it, we've been saying two things. We 1123 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:27,120 need either capacity and treated water or all water available to us. And then we got 1124 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,780 also figured out once we have it, how do we move it to the system? That's really why we've been 1125 01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:35,720 doing these multi-grants. So we did the transmission line, the Oak Hill tank, that's part of moving 1126 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:41,100 it into the system. But the other is how do we get water available to pull in? It's right now 1127 01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:48,280 we got about 800,000 gallons per day over promised. What plant can do now? Sure, some 1128 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:53,240 of those projects may not build tomorrow, but they could, we're seeing a lot of projects 1129 01:25:53,240 --> 01:26:02,260 start. So we need that plus, we need drought management. So that line will provide what we need 1130 01:26:02,260 --> 01:26:07,280 now plus and drought management if we need to do that. And then if we were to go through 1131 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,740 how she tells the district they have more availability and they have sent us water 1132 01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:15,780 in quantities when we needed it. No doubt about it. We've got a contract that's 1133 01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:20,460 smaller daily contract but we needed it and they had it fourth they sent us 1134 01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:25,460 large quantities when we were in drought conditions and they could manage their 1135 01:26:25,460 --> 01:26:31,900 entire system and just like this savings they were talking about quite a bit 1136 01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:38,100 and saving his own leaders versus what we could do but I don't know because there is 1137 01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:43,020 scale and it's what the government now brought up. I think we're getting close to 1138 01:26:43,020 --> 01:26:48,040 there going to be presenting us their plan and then we'll go through it so we'll 1139 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,000 see which is the right line so we'll speak completely in the 2020 series. Yeah, September 1140 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,720 30 is 2026. They tell us that all things need to be fully expanded. Yeah, and 1141 01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,140 of T-day time to send their paperwork into the federal government. 1142 01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:06,000 So we're going to 20-day drag it out five years later, don't do it. 1143 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:11,460 Now, let's say they can't even say, they're going to make sure all the pieces are together 1144 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:15,000 and all the money is expanded by September 30 to 2026. 1145 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,460 I'm actually trying to cool, but I mean, this is March, middle of March, that's 25. 1146 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:25,380 So this thing is, listen, I can't listen, we are staff, our consultants, 1147 01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:27,700 people, 1148 01:27:27,700 --> 01:27:32,540 pulling for us down to general assembly. People pulling for us and regulatory boards. I mean, 1149 01:27:34,500 --> 01:27:38,440 this just didn't happen by accident. This is a lot of hard work. And here y'all just 1150 01:27:39,260 --> 01:27:44,400 y'all are making it happen for the first time in my lifetime. And the first time in many people's 1151 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:49,860 lifetime, we're in one of the best positions that have water in the city of Portland. We've ever 1152 01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:54,020 seen. I can tell y'all might have calaced as long as not to sleep over this. It's been a several years 1153 01:27:54,020 --> 01:28:01,120 He's been, he's been hours and hours of his day working in nothing but this trying to make this a close, close 1154 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,320 So, anyway 1155 01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:09,880 Alright, anybody want to talk about anything else or want to make a new joint? 1156 01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:11,900 Motion second, favor eye