1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,120 Good afternoon. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:10,400 » Good afternoon. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:12,719 » I am Shondaanda Taylor and this is our 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:16,080 planning commission work session agenda 5 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:18,880 for Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026 6 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:20,560 starting at 12:35 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,680 in the city council conference room, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,560 sixth floor of city hall. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,240 » Dr. Russell. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,240 » All right, doc. And I'm going to for the 11 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:30,640 rest I'm going to defer to Dr. Russell. 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,920 » Good afternoon. Uh and thank you. We 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,559 have one agenda item this afternoon. Um 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,399 and it is a use permit application. Mr. 15 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:43,840 Bill Landfair is going to provide the uh 16 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:47,039 staff report for that uh item. And then 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,520 we're going to follow that with an uh 18 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:54,480 brief review of our agenda items for our 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:56,480 board of zoning appeals meeting um 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,320 uh for March 25th. And then we're going 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,000 to provide a project update for our 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,160 comprehensive planning projects for the 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,879 department. Mr. Landfair, principal 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,879 planner. 25 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:06,080 » Thank you, Dr. Russell. Good afternoon, 26 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:07,360 planning commissioners. 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,439 » Good afternoon. 28 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,560 » Bill Lanfair, principal planner with the 29 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:15,040 city of Portsouth planning department. 30 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,119 The application before you today is a 31 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,680 request for a use permit for the 32 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:24,240 development of three townhouse units on 33 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:26,720 approximately. 61 acres located at 531 34 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Edward Street in the multifamily urban 35 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,079 residential zoning district. 36 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,400 The subject property is located adjacent 37 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:37,119 to the Southside Gardens and Portide 38 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Manor multifamily neighborhoods and is 39 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:41,520 also near the Port Center commercial 40 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,600 park. 41 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:47,439 The property is vacant, measuring 42 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:50,640 approximately 75 ft in length and 121 ft 43 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:54,720 in depth for a total of 9,075 44 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:58,240 square ft or.21 acres. It's located 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,560 within the AE8 special flood hazard area 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,920 and the resource management area of the 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Chesapeake Bay preservation area. 48 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,080 The surrounding neighborhood is 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,840 characterized by a mix of residential, 50 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,800 commercial, industrial, and 51 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,000 institutional land uses all within two 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,840 blocks of the subject property. 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,080 To the north and west, there are 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,400 multifamily developments containing town 55 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,000 houses, condominiums, and apartments 56 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,560 zoned multifamily urban residential. 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,879 To the east and south are detached 58 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,560 single family residences also zone 59 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:37,120 multifamily urban residential. 60 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,120 Additionally, two family and three to 61 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,280 four family dwellings can be found 62 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,000 within about one block of the subject 63 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,000 property. 64 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,440 The applicant is proposing to subdivide 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:53,280 the property into three townhouse lots. 66 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:56,239 Two will be end units 3,449 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:59,280 square ft in size and one will be an 68 00:02:56,239 --> 00:03:02,640 interior lot 2,178 69 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:05,280 square ft in size. Each townhouse will 70 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:09,120 measure 18 ft in width and 30 ft in 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:11,920 depth providing 1556 square ft of living 72 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,920 area. Each dwelling will have a driveway 73 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:16,319 accommodating two off- streetet vehicle 74 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:19,200 parking spaces which satisfies the 75 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:21,360 requirement for the use. 76 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,599 Each unit will also include a covered 77 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,879 front porch and a seconds story rear 78 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,360 balcony. The submitted elevations and 79 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:31,680 conceptual plans are incorporated into 80 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,080 the conditions of approval for the use 81 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,360 permit to ensure substantial conformity 82 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,760 with the recommended design standards. 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Staff is recommending approval of the 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,480 applicant's request with the recommended 85 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,319 conditions. The proposed residential use 86 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,799 will be consistent with the overall 87 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:52,000 intent and policies of the city's build 88 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:54,560 one portsmith comprehensive plan and the 89 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,799 citywide strategic housing plan 90 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,120 particularly relating to improved 91 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:01,680 housing quality and the provision of 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,319 mixed income housing. The development 93 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:07,360 will be appropriate at this location. It 94 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:09,599 provides compatible infill that improves 95 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,280 the appearance of the property and has 96 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,760 an architectural design that will 97 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,680 complement the surrounding area. The 98 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,160 planning department has not received any 99 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,239 public comments. This concludes my 100 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,479 presentation and I'll now stand by for 101 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:23,479 any questions. 102 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:34,960 » Commissioner is there any questions? No. 103 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,960 Okay. Thank you. 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,080 All right. 105 00:04:39,919 --> 00:04:43,360 » All right. 106 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,080 » The next agenda items um will be 107 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,240 presented by Mr. Travon Boon, our zone 108 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,639 administrator, and he's going to review 109 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,880 the uh board of zoning appeals agenda 110 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:54,400 items that will be considered on March 111 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,320 25th. 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,400 » Um good afternoon, commissioners. I say 113 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,479 that I am Son, zoning administrator for 114 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,160 the city of Portsouth. Um there are five 115 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:04,800 cases to be heard before the board of 116 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,680 voting appeals on March the 25th um at 117 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,720 our BCA meeting. Um those items include 118 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,560 1404 Center Avenue. Um they are 119 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,479 requesting a special exception to 120 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,639 authorize the reduction of the minimum 121 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:19,199 minimum required side yard setback from 122 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:20,960 7 ft to 3 ft and that's in order to 123 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:24,880 construct a detached single family 124 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:28,320 dwelling on a narrow lot. Um the next 125 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:31,759 item that we have is 316 High Street and 126 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,600 also 330 County Street. Um both are 127 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:36,400 requesting a special exception to 128 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,320 authorize a residential ground floor 129 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,039 conversion in accordance with section 130 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,400 40.2-535 131 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:46,880 subsection B subsection 2. 132 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,120 The next item that we have is 822 133 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,280 Garfield Street. They are requesting a 134 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,560 variance in or in accord in in 135 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:55,280 accordance excuse me with zoning 136 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,400 ordinance section 40.2534 137 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:01,280 subsection B subsection 6 to allow for a 138 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:04,000 deviation from the provisions of the 139 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:06,639 city code chapter 14.1 and the flood 140 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,759 protection area. And the last item that 141 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:11,600 we have is 1204 airline boulevard and 142 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:13,600 they're also requesting a variance to 143 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,560 reduce the side yard setbacks 144 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,080 requirements from 20 ft to 14 ft. and 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,080 they are all the items that we have by 146 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,880 our March the 25th meeting for the board 147 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,039 of zoning appeals. 148 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,000 » Commissioners, the um code of Virginia 149 00:06:25,039 --> 00:06:29,840 requires that um we share with the 150 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,919 planning commission those agenda items 151 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:34,240 for our board of zoning appeals meeting 152 00:06:31,919 --> 00:06:36,720 in the event that you have comments that 153 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,520 you would like for us to uh share with 154 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:43,400 board members or appear uh before the 155 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,400 board during their deliberations. 156 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:49,120 Okay, Madam Chair, that concludes the 157 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:51,440 formal agenda items for the meeting. I 158 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,199 do have an update on our planning 159 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,600 projects if I may share that with 160 00:06:53,199 --> 00:07:00,120 commissioners. Okay, 161 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,120 » Miss Jackson. Mrs. Jackson. 162 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,680 Thank you. 163 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Thank you. 164 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:29,400 » Thank you. 165 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Thank you. 166 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,599 I was hoping you save one for me. So 167 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,840 anyway, 168 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:36,840 » Thank you. 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:45,039 Members of the commission, I um what you 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:47,280 uh traditionally see from um our agenda 171 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:49,199 items monthtomonth, you'll see resoning 172 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,400 applications, you'll see use permit 173 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:55,280 applications. Occasionally um over the 174 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,199 the 24 months that I have been on board, 175 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,759 you've seen a couple of zoning ordinance 176 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:01,440 text amendments, but I thought as we 177 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:04,160 were deliberating amongst our team 178 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,400 members uh about project assignments and 179 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,680 priorities of projects that it would be 180 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,840 beneficial to share with the 181 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,599 commissioners the comprehensive planning 182 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,520 projects or the long-term planning 183 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:15,120 projects that we're working on and then 184 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,759 to give you some status information 185 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:21,400 about those projects. I also think that 186 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:21,400 it's um 187 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:25,360 prudent to share this information with 188 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:26,960 you because we often get requests. I 189 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 received a request this morning from a 190 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,960 citizen that made an appointment to 191 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,719 speak to me about things that they think 192 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:36,399 we ought to be involved in and put on 193 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:39,680 our list of priorities. Um and so uh the 194 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:42,159 first item is the historic uh district 195 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:44,880 design guidelines review. Mr. Bill 196 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:47,839 Landfair uh coordinates and supports 197 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:51,680 both our uh uh historic preservation 198 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:55,200 commiss commission and our uh DDC our 199 00:08:51,680 --> 00:09:00,000 our downtown design um commission. And 200 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:03,680 what we have found um is that the design 201 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,160 guidelines for both districts really 202 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:10,000 don't take advantage of some of the new 203 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:14,480 opportunities for materials um that are 204 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:17,760 more costly. uh and more effective um in 205 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:20,080 terms of um uh energy efficiency and 206 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,000 other efficiencies. Um and because 207 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,560 they're not in the guidelines, they are 208 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,680 not ready opportunities for property 209 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:30,320 owners to use. So take for example slate 210 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:33,360 roofing. They're composite materials 211 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,040 that emulate that so that from the 212 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,279 untrained eye, they're 213 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,680 indistinguishable, especially if you're 214 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:42,399 looking at it from the ground level. and 215 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:44,880 our design guidelines don't um currently 216 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:47,200 permit that. Additionally, for window 217 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,160 treatments, composite window treatments 218 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,080 that resemble wood material um that 219 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,920 would be appropriate. Our design 220 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,800 guidelines in many instances don't 221 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:01,360 permit. And so um for at least a year uh 222 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:04,480 I have u been party to discussions about 223 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,720 when are we going to update the historic 224 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,200 uh preservation district uh design 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,519 guidelines and we are undertaking that 226 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:15,839 effort as we speak and so we want you to 227 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:18,959 be aware of that. In addition to um the 228 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:20,640 materials, we want to review the 229 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:22,160 administrative 230 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,600 um 231 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:28,240 allowances that would permit uh staff to 232 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,959 review and approve 233 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,920 uh work within our historic districts 234 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:35,839 and issue a certificate of occupancy 235 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,839 without having to go through board 236 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:41,279 review. And the reason why that's 237 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:43,760 important is in in most instances it 238 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:46,720 time is money. And if we can get a 239 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:51,600 project to construction four weeks 240 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:54,160 faster or eight weeks faster, we are um 241 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,279 uh improving the outcome from the 242 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,839 developer or the property owner just by 243 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:01,440 the nature of uh saving time and saving 244 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:03,760 money. 245 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,880 We've talked a lot about the link 246 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,160 district and uh you most recently 247 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:13,279 considered amendments to the uh 248 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,839 Portsmith zoning ordinance uh regarding 249 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:17,760 adoption of provisions um of the 250 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:20,640 ordinance to implement the 251 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,360 recommendations of the innovation plan. 252 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:26,079 You will recall that we propose that we 253 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,720 do that in two phases. Um that we put 254 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:31,839 forth those prescriptive recommendations 255 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,880 that are in the plan and we follow that 256 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:37,680 effort with a stakeholder engagement 257 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,600 process so that we readress some of the 258 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:45,519 design guidelines that uh are outlined 259 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:48,079 in the innovation plan to model um some 260 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:51,279 of the observations that we've made in 261 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:55,040 other areas. main street downtown areas 262 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:57,920 that have reinvented themselves. Um that 263 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,760 effort where we are is developing or 264 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,959 identifying stakeholders who would be 265 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:05,680 involved in that process. Uh we have 266 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:08,079 intentionally sought to observe the 267 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:11,680 stakeholder engagement process around 268 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:15,680 the Crawford Bay um 269 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:18,399 um uh stakeholder public engagement 270 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:21,200 efforts that have just includ concluded 271 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:24,160 and and I'll share with you that um I 272 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:27,920 actually registered as a participant uh 273 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:32,079 in the um Porsmith um it was on our the 274 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:35,519 Porsche website and I just marveled how 275 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:38,079 that uh the updates for real time for 276 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:40,639 both of the community engagement efforts 277 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:43,120 uh were sent to me by text message, by 278 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:45,600 email uh and by phone. So, it would have 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,079 been impossible to forget uh that both 280 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,120 of those activities were occurring and 281 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:52,720 then what we were being asked to do as 282 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,880 stakeholders 283 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,360 uh in the process in in our 284 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:01,279 participation. And so we're going to as 285 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,120 closely as possible mimic that process 286 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:06,000 uh in the development of the link 287 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:10,880 district design guidelines. 288 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,240 So our short-term rental ordinance, we 289 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,839 don't know if we presented this to the 290 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,200 planning commission or not, but in 291 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:20,560 September we did present to uh the city 292 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,480 council in a work session uh information 293 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,839 about our short-term rental ordinance 294 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,000 and the provisions of the code of 295 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:30,880 Virginia. And so just in a quick 296 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:33,440 summary, um the code permits by right uh 297 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:36,560 a property owner to use their property 298 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,880 for short-term rentals as long as they 299 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:41,519 are residing in the property at least 300 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,200 50% of the time. Okay? So that could 301 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,639 mean to, you know, if you take six 302 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,480 months out of the year, say they they're 303 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:48,079 living in the property six months and 304 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,399 then they're using it as a short-term 305 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:54,079 rental six months or they're residing at 306 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:56,639 the in the property at the same time or 307 00:13:54,079 --> 00:14:01,279 portion of the time that it is also um 308 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:04,959 being leased as a short-term rental. Um 309 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:07,120 we had committed to um well we have 310 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:10,000 committed to to have this process 311 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:13,040 complete by summer 2026. 312 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Um the the 313 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,240 challenge with this one is that the the 314 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,800 stakeholders aren't readily 315 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,360 identifiable, you know, because I mean 316 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:27,040 in general they're property owners. Uh 317 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:29,680 we think that the um the uh real estate 318 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,760 brokerage industry would would also be 319 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,959 stakeholders uh involved in this 320 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 process. 321 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:37,600 uh property managers. There are all 322 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,560 kinds of uh levels of expertise that we 323 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:43,199 want to bring to the table in uh vetting 324 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,920 and developing an ordinance uh for 325 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:49,199 short-term rentals. Uh I noticed over 326 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,440 the weekend um 327 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:53,760 a community is very different from from 328 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Portmith. Uh but it's the town of 329 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Smithville. There's an article that said 330 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,240 they have very few uh short-term rentals 331 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:04,320 and their ordinance only requires the 332 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:07,360 registration um of the uh property as a 333 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:11,680 short-term rental and uh a business 334 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,279 license. And so uh we are uh also 335 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,360 responsible for benchmarking and and 336 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,959 just finding out you know what what our 337 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,680 neighboring localities are doing and 338 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:22,800 what's working uh what's not working and 339 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:26,399 then try to launch our ordinance process 340 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,800 in a way that avoids those uh regulatory 341 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:30,639 practices that that did not work for our 342 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,720 neighbors. 343 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:36,800 Uh comprehensive plan update. So we did 344 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,639 an audit of the comprehensive plan that 345 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:42,639 we presented to the PL our planning 346 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:45,600 commissioners and council. Uh we have 347 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:48,560 actually out on EVA which is the state's 348 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,720 uh procurement website uh a request for 349 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,360 proposals where we're seeking consultant 350 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,160 support to help us in the development of 351 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:59,040 our 2040 comprehensive plan. We 352 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:04,240 anticipate that that is going to be uh 353 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:07,279 about a a a 24 to 30month effort. Uh we 354 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,880 are uh well aware of the best practices 355 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:11,120 uh Commissioner Melvin that you have 356 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,000 asked us to consider uh in the 357 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,399 development of that plan. Along the way, 358 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,759 you will uh as commissioners will 359 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:23,040 receive periodic reports uh on the 360 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:24,480 status of our plan development uh as 361 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,399 well as information about our 362 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,560 stakeholder and public engagement um uh 363 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:34,240 activities so that you can participate 364 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,160 if you'd like. And then the last item um 365 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,920 we should mark that as complete. We did 366 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,720 a overhaul of our Chesapeake Bay 367 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:45,440 uh preservation district ordinance uh 368 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,720 and uh reaffirmation of the maps 369 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,600 designating our RPA, RMA 370 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,240 um and intensely developed area features 371 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,000 uh on our map. And so just want um 372 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,639 commissioners to be aware, you know, in 373 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,480 tandem as we're processing these uh land 374 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:02,399 use applications and our site plans and 375 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,720 our subdivisions and supporting our five 376 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:07,679 boards and commissions, we are also 377 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:14,799 working on those long-term projects that 378 00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:17,600 really um will change the uh physical um 379 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:20,079 appearance, the physical uh plant of the 380 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,760 community. Uh and those efforts take 381 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:23,360 time. 382 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,160 I'm happy to answer. I'm looking at this 383 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:28,559 is usually y'all are surprised. So, I 384 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,160 have an audience of three today. 385 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,679 » Do you have any questions? I'd be more 386 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,960 than happy to answer them. 387 00:17:31,679 --> 00:17:37,440 » Um I think it's just one that is not on 388 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,440 this sheet, but it's up there. The code 389 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,600 enforcement for entertainment venues. 390 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,320 » We took that off. You know why? Cuz we 391 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,320 we we are for the most part done with 392 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,280 that. We have to tweak that ordinance 393 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,360 that was adopted in August 2026. 394 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,280 » Um 395 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,440 relative to implementation because we 396 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,880 had some some challenges that I I don't 397 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,880 want to discuss um in public because I'd 398 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,200 be identifying the specific properties. 399 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,360 Okay. 400 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:09,120 » Um but with respect to uh enforcement 401 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:11,039 and um mitigation of of the the two 402 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:13,039 properties that were a challenge, those 403 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,840 issues were resolved on February 25th. 404 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:16,840 » Yes. 405 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,840 » Okay. 406 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:25,280 I definitely like the historic district 407 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:28,240 design guideline review. Thank you so 408 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:31,120 much. Um I learned about that the hard 409 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,120 way by actually going through it. Um but 410 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:36,080 everybody was great, especially Phil and 411 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:39,520 Miss Rhonda. Um, but I do like that it 412 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:42,400 was uh even a thought um Sean I think 413 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:46,160 his name is who is the president of uh 414 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,760 the HPC to like once in a while have a 415 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,400 meeting of the minds for everybody 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,480 involved like from 417 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,559 historical to planning commission to 418 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,720 zoning just so that like we make sure 419 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:59,840 we're all on one page about some of the 420 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:03,200 changes that come down the pipeline. Um, 421 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:05,760 I'm excited for the link district and 422 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:10,080 short-term rental ordinance. That's 423 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,240 going to be um a project. A project and 424 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,840 a challenge, but I know you guys can get 425 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,520 it done. So, I'm excited about 426 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,080 everything that's on the list for the 427 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,600 city. 428 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,200 » Wonderful. Are you interested in being a 429 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,160 stakeholder on any of those? 430 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,039 » I can be. 431 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,559 » Okay. Any all 432 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,160 » Can be. So, 433 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,280 » So 434 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,919 » Maybe one or two. 435 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,039 » Okay. 436 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:28,000 » But I got you. 437 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,080 » Thank you. Yeah, thank you for the 438 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,080 update. I definitely interested being a 439 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,039 stakeholder for the link district 440 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,280 ordinance and the uh comprehensive plan. 441 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:39,360 » Um, thank you for 442 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,000 um considering my feedback for the 443 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:43,520 comprehensive plan. I know uh doing a 444 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,240 great job here with including smart 445 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,080 goals which are very important. Um but 446 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,640 also including like a capability matrix 447 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,880 for each department will help out 448 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,280 because you'll find yourself in the same 449 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:58,640 predicament as last year with uh 450 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,480 departments not um doing certain you 451 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,080 know objectives cuz they just might not 452 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,799 have the capability such as you know 453 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,960 funding or the amount of people. So the 454 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:08,720 capability matrix gives Mr. Carter the 455 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:13,200 opportunity to see where each department 456 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:15,280 is at and be able to fund or plan out so 457 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,880 that they can reach that objective. So 458 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,960 just just something to to note there so 459 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,280 that we can 460 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,440 show action with a comprehensive plan. 461 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:30,320 » Okay. Can you help me with how is the 462 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:32,799 capability metrics um different than uh 463 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,520 a task an assignment? 464 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:39,760 » Yeah. So you can um provide you can give 465 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,799 any task right but if the department per 466 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,559 se can't meet that task 467 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:45,840 then it's just it's just out there it's 468 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:48,720 not going to be done. So with the 469 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:52,080 capability matrix matrix it shows you 470 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,919 there's like a a taxonomy out there that 471 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,760 shows you like uh from levels one to 472 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:57,600 five 473 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,640 um where you can meet at. And like 474 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,240 usually typically when companies do this 475 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,600 they want to be at level three or four. 476 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,360 That means that their pro processes are 477 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,200 in place. They have the right amount of 478 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,120 people that can do the job. They have 479 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,000 the funding so that they can meet that 480 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:14,159 task. Now, if you're under level three, 481 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,440 if you're at one or two, that means you 482 00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:16,480 don't have the processes in place, you 483 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 don't have the funding, you don't have 484 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,799 the people, so you can't meet that 485 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,400 objective. And there's nothing to do 486 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:24,159 with, you know, the department itself. 487 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,760 It's just that there's some there's a 488 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:28,880 shortage somewhere. And with the 489 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:32,400 capability matrix, it gives you the city 490 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:35,039 manager the um the ability to see like, 491 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,760 okay, I see where my shortfalls are at 492 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:41,200 now. I can uh strategically 493 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,440 um allocate resources to that department 494 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,080 so that they can meet that objective if 495 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,919 that's your priority. So that's how 496 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,760 capability matrix will will help out 497 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:51,679 with the task. Because if you just have 498 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,240 a task and smart goals, it's nice to 499 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:55,840 have on paper, 500 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,000 but you need the people, you need the 501 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,280 funding, you need the processes in order 502 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:04,000 to actually execute. And that's where I 503 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,720 realized that a lot of, you know, 504 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,400 companies uh go wrong is that they don't 505 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,679 have the means to execute. I know we're 506 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,760 in a resource constraint environment 507 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:16,799 and this allows you to see on paper 508 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,760 where we're at and then prioritize um 509 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:22,080 based off of that. Right. So, you know, 510 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,480 we always say like the the hard thing is 511 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,640 not what you're going to do, it's what 512 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,360 you're not going to do. And capability 513 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,039 matrix helps you plan that. So, 514 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,960 » Thank you. 515 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:34,640 » All right, Madam Chair. 516 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 » That completes the 517 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,559 » I don't know if your other audience 518 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,200 members have questions or comments. All 519 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:44,440 right. This concludes our work session. 520 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,440 Work session. 521 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,679 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I 522 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,840 would like to welcome you all to this 523 00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:01,280 very important meeting today, Tuesday, 524 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:06,280 March 3rd, 2026 in the city of 525 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Portsmouth City Council Chambers. 526 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:13,280 » Thank you, Madam Chairman. 527 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,520 Commissioners, we will now have roll 528 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,520 call. Please indicate your presence 529 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,520 electronically. 530 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,240 Four members of the planning commission 531 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,200 are present. Commissioners, before you 532 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,120 are the minutes of February 3rd, 2026 533 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:35,480 public hearing. If there are any 534 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:35,480 changes, we are in need of a motion. 535 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:42,080 » I so move to approve. 536 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:44,880 Second. 537 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,400 We have a second and a motion, 538 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,919 Madam Secretary. 539 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,679 » Thank you, Madam Chairman. We have a 540 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:52,960 motion and a second to approve the 541 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:54,480 minutes from the February 3rd, 2026 542 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Planning Commission meeting, and you 543 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,280 will be voting electronically. 544 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,520 The minutes are approved by a vote of 545 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520 420. 546 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,799 Announcements of future meetings and 547 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,200 conferences. 548 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:21,600 Our next scheduled work session is 549 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Tuesday, April the 7th, 2026 at 12:30 550 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:27,039 p.m. City Council conference room 551 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,840 followed by public hearing at 1:30 p.m. 552 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:32,640 City Council Chamber. Planning 553 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:35,200 Commission rules limit a speaker up to 5 554 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,279 minutes to speak. We also ask that 555 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,760 everyone please silence your cell phones 556 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:42,559 at this time if you have not already 557 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,279 done so. Items reviewed today will be 558 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:48,960 presented to city council for action at 559 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:52,720 their April the 14, 2026 public hearing 560 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:55,720 or as otherwise noted. Our first item, 561 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720 UP-25-16 562 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,760 West Kredo Community Housing Partners 563 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,640 request a use permit to construct 564 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:10,240 multifamily dwelling on approximately 565 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:14,799 2.3 combined acres located at 2216 566 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:18,400 and 2220 Wen Avenue in the multifamily 567 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:20,640 urban residential URM zoning district. 568 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,720 The properties are owned by Portsmouth 569 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Afton Square LP and are further 570 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:32,799 identified as tax map 465 parcels 38 and 571 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,520 39. The future land use map of the build 572 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:38,000 one portsmith comprehensive plan 573 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,080 designates this property for low to 574 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,679 medium density single family 575 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,799 residential. 576 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:47,200 The staff coordinator is Bill Landfair. 577 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:50,159 Will the applicant or representative for 578 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:55,159 this application please come forward and 579 00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:55,159 present your application at this time? 580 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,960 » Yeah, Miss Jackson, I think that was uh 581 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:04,279 I don't think that was correct public 582 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,279 hearing item. 583 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Huh? 584 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:30,279 My apologies. 585 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,279 The case is UP-26-01 586 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,320 Oakton. TB Baker and T. Williams 587 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,480 requests a use permit for the 588 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:45,279 development of three townhouse units on 589 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:47,840 approximately 0.21 acres located at 531 590 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:51,279 Edward Street in the multif family urban 591 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,720 residential URM zoning district. The 592 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:58,880 property is further identified as tax 593 00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,720 map 39 parcel 51. The future land use 594 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,360 map of the build on poresmith 595 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:07,039 comprehensive plan designates this 596 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:09,600 property for mixeduse employment. 597 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,760 Will the applicant or the representative 598 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,240 for this application please come forward 599 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,240 and present your application at this 600 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,240 time? 601 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:23,120 Chairman Taylor, may I speak? 602 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,279 » Sure. 603 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:29,440 It appears that the applicant is not 604 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:32,720 present, which gives us um one of of of 605 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:35,120 two maybe three choices. We could wait 606 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,080 uh a few minutes to see if the applicant 607 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:40,960 is delayed by traffic or some other uh 608 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,120 means and reach out to them um by phone. 609 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,799 We could defer consideration of the item 610 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,720 until your next planning commission 611 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,400 meeting or in the absence of the 612 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,240 applicant, the commission could always 613 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,679 deny the request. I 614 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,679 » Think we should defer 615 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,919 or or as Mr. Miller has suggested al or 616 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:01,200 approve 617 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,440 » Uh do we want to give them the 618 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,720 opportunity to get here? 619 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240 » Have we tried to 620 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,240 » We can give them a few minutes. 621 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240 » Okay. 622 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:15,520 » Take take a recess for five minutes. 623 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,240 » Yes. 624 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Recess for five minutes. 625 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520 All 626 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,399 right, we will resume. 627 00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:38,159 Okay. 628 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:43,159 Uh, ladies and gentlemen, this is a 629 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:43,159 public hearing on item 26-01. 630 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:50,880 The applicant is not here. 631 00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:56,159 Commissioners, uh, Madame Chair Erson, 632 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:59,360 we need a um motion and a second to for 633 00:28:56,159 --> 00:29:04,200 to defer. If that's your pleasure, 634 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,200 » I so move to defer to our next meeting. 635 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,480 » We need a second. 636 00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:12,120 » Second. 637 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,120 » We're going to defer it. 638 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000 » Meeting. 639 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,799 No, it's important that we defer to next 640 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 meeting. 641 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,559 » You say that 642 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,720 » But the council said it's probably most 643 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,960 important that we defer to next meeting. 644 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,799 We were comparing to any other incident 645 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,799 that this happened before. So 646 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:37,120 » I think we should wait till they hear 647 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,120 before we go. I think it would be more 648 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000 beautiful. 649 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,440 » Second. 650 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,440 » All right. We have a motion and a 651 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,919 second. 652 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,919 We have a motion and a second to defer 653 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:48,919 UP-26-01 654 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,080 and you will be voting electronically. 655 00:29:54,799 --> 00:30:00,200 This item is approved by a vote of 321. 656 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,799 » No business. 657 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:08,960 » All right. Madam Secretary, I believe 658 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:09,520 that concludes our agenda for today. Is 659 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,480 that correct? 660 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,480 » That is correct. Madame Chairman, may I 661 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,320 make a comment under director's 662 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960 comments, please? 663 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,279 » Yes. 664 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:23,200 » Okay. The um believe Miss Jackson, or it 665 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,919 might already be in front of you, a QR 666 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,000 code for the planning commissioner um 667 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:30,640 satisfaction survey that we discussed 668 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,640 last month. We would appreciate if 669 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,360 commissioners would at this time or at 670 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,520 some point within the next um couple of 671 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,720 hours complete the survey just to 672 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:44,159 provide feedback on um the staff report 673 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,640 and your um how we've helped prepare you 674 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:49,679 um for your deliberations regarding land 675 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,159 use cases and we'll provide that um 676 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:55,919 summary of your feedback and use this 677 00:30:52,159 --> 00:31:00,080 data set as the benchmark um for um how 678 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:02,880 we have improved over time. Thank you. 679 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,880 All right, 680 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,880 » Commissioners. Will there be any further 681 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880 business? 682 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:11,039 No. All 683 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,720 » Right, Dr. Russell, is there any further 684 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,440 business? 685 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:19,279 All right. You're welcome. Hearing none, 686 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,279 this meeting is now adjourned.