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Will you please stand and say the pledge
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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible with liberty and justice for

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The record show members are present.
They got to read a public comment policy

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statement. If there's anybody from the
public that wants to make a comment to

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the board, they will need to go over to
the table over here and read the script

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and then fill out the form and make to
make a public comment. At the beginning

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of the meeting, we will reserve about 30
minutes for public comments, but you

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only get three minutes to speak on your
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[clears throat]
>> Okay, everybody, look the consent agenda

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over.
>> I'll make the motion to approve the

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consent agenda.
>> Thank you. I'll second.

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» A motion by Miller, a second by
Jorgensson to approve the consent

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agenda. All in favor signify by saying
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» I.
>> Those opposed? Motion carried.

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We got any public comments?
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» I think there's some Yep.

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» Okay. Hold on. We'll bring that over.
Need to state your name and your

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address.
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side.
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» Go ahead.
>> Oh, yes. I'm here on behalf of

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speaking on behalf of Overland Mobile
Home Park and um

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we're having a lot of problems down
there. They're giving us new leases.

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They're trying to take our trailers away
from us. Um and my neighbor and I are

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disputed about property line and there's
never been any property line

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established. So, I'm looking something
like I call city and stuff, but nobody

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ever will come in and do property
lighting for us. So, and they tell me I

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can't use my back door and be able to
close my back door.

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» Is [snorts] that the one on South 24th
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» Right up um by Griffin Pipe. when you
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» Okay.
>> There's a letter Charles that

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» and that would be
>> a city issue is what that is,

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» right?
>> Okay. So, there's nothing we could we

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could do within the city.
>> Okay. So, this the city would be this.

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» Speak louder. You need you need to go to
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» Okay.
>> Community development. I think you want

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to start a community development.
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» community development office is in the
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» Okay.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.

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» Thank you.
>> Anybody else?

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» You don't wish to speak?
>> No, because

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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Well,

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» thanks for coming in. Thank you. Thank
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» Next up, we got any new hires in here?
>> We do. Okay. Maria,

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» I want to introduce Brian. Brian comes
to public health with um over 20 years

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of experience and a considerable amount
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So, he has uh been with us a week and
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projects and we're very excited to have
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» Good deal. Welcome. Welcome aboard.
>> Happy to be here.

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» Thank you for coming in.
>> Thank you.

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» Nice to meet you, Brian.
>> Likewise. Got a good team over there.

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» Absolutely.
>> Okay, questions, comments.

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Thank you for coming in, Brian.
>> Thank you. Thanks, Maria.

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» Thank you.
>> We also have a new attorney in our

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office. This is Zach Joyce. Uh he will
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misdemeanors.
He just passed the bar. So, we're really

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excited to have him on.
He was an intern in our office for two

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different semesters. So, he already has
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office and he's proved to be an asset
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» Welcome.
>> Thank you.

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» Yeah. Any questions, comments?
>> Forward to working with you.

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» Thanks for bringing him in, Kristen.
Appreciate it. Matt

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» would be here, but he is in trial today.
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Okay, first up, Matt Wyatt, director of
planning and development. Public hearing

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on proposed second amendment development
amended development agreement

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with JJHP
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and discussion and/or decision to
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resolution number 57-2026
entitled resolution approving second

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amendment amended development agreement
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LLC.
Motion to go into

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» I'll make the motion to go into public
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» I'll second it.

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» By Miller, second by Jorgensson to go
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do roll call?
>> Chairman Shay

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» I.
>> Supervisor Miller.

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» I.
>> Supervisor Wickman.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Jones.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Jurgensson.

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» Hi.
So, for the past six years, we've been

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working with Mark, uh, John and Jason on
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um, we're like, we've heard a little bit
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they're getting ready for the roads to
be paved in there. and along with uh

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their recent milestones of where they're
at and the tiff law changes that have

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happened at the state, the development
agreement was amended to meet the terms

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that we previously talked about where
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They'll receive two payments per year
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» that really depends on how fast they
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» Correct. The time frame does depend on
that. Now that we're not having to hold

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back the LMI funding anymore, it's not
even allow. And just to make clear with

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everybody, it's not even an allowable
hold back anymore. So that frees up on

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the Pawani County side of it, it frees
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of what the payments would have been.
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they're building out the subdivision
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faster. And I would assume that it would
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timeline that we have stated
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» And the total number of lots
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We're on a public hearing.
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anybody want to speak in favor of this?

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» Open for a motion.
>> I'll move close public hearing. I'll

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second the motion.
Motion by Wickman, a second by Jones to

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close public hearing. Would you do a
roll call, please?

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» Chairman Shay.
>> Hi.

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» Supervisor Jones.
>> Hi.

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» Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi.

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» Supervisor Miller.
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» Supervisor Wig.
>> Hi.

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» I really appreciate all you do.

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Rolling housing.
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Thank you.
I'll make the motion that we pass

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resolution number 57-2026.

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I'll second that for discussion.
>> Thank you. Motion by Jones, second by

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Wickman to approve resolution 57-2026.

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» Um Mark, you're still planning curb and
gutter on all those

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» Yes, sir.
>> roads, right?

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» Yep. Uh driver's almost done with all of
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construction.
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you have a contractor for the roads?
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» Sweet. Um
I'm sure you you know, especially

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listening to Matt, there's no LMI on
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can we ex can we expect that to get paid
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meets our expectations. I mean, it's a
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exactly how fast the lots will sell and
the homes will be built, but we do have

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uh some guidelines in the covenants that
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construction within 18 months of
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than 12 months to complete construction.
So, that at least puts a leash, you

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know, prevents anybody from buying a lot
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a few people reaching out asking for
updates on when they'll be able to buy

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lots. Just trying to uh finalize
everything before we make any

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commitments and guarantees to everybody.
I think we'll be ready to

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[clears throat] set pricing and take
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60 days.
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41 lots.
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spoken for or built on before you start
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» I think it would be more an analysis of
just the absorption rate. You know, we

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want we don't want to run out of lots,
you know, but if if we're clipping them

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out fast, we'll probably pay the the
next culde-sac, you know, fairly

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promptly. We we are putting in the water
infrastructure for second phase actually

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during phase one construction. So, all
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paving. Um, but yeah, if we've got
strong demand, we'll we'll put that out

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for a bit probably, you know.
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process, Andy, compaction, all that
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» So, the developer pays a consultant to
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consultants reports. So we are not boots
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consultant to handle inspection and then
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correspondence [clears throat] with with
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» Good
engineering overseeing the project and

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then we've got geotech contracted for
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» perfect
other questions comments.

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» Would you do a roll call? Marriott.
>> Chairman Shay.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Jorgensson.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Miller.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Wickman.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Jones.

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» Hi.
>> I like the names of the roads you've got

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on there, too.
>> They're named after my children and

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Jason.
>> I figured that.

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» Awesome. I mean, I like it.
Well, thank you all for your support.

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Legacy
long long coming, but yep, we're

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excited. Excellent.
Thanks Mark. Thanks.

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» Thank you very much.
>> Okay. Next up, Maryanne Hanusa, auditor.

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Discussion on her decision to approve
and sign proclamation

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designating the week of September 7th to
11th as National Payroll Week. See

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Thank you.
Ryan, I'll make the motion that we

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approve proclamation
um for National Payroll Week September

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7th through the 11th 26. I'll second.

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» Got a motion by Miller, [clears throat]
a second by Jorgensson to approve

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proclamation
national payroll week. Maryanne,

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» uh, Chairman Shay,
>> hi.

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» Supervisor Miller.
>> I,

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» Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi,

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» Supervisor Jones. Hi,
>> Supervisor Wickham. Okay,

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agree.
>> Proclamation naming payroll week

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September 7th through 11th, 2026.
Whereas payroll professionals play a

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vital role in ensuring employees are
paid accurately and on time while

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maintaining compliance with federal,
state, and local laws and regulations.

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And whereas Padawani County payroll
professionals contribute significantly

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to the financial well-being of employees
and their families by ensuring the

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accurate and timely payment of wages,
benefits, taxes, and other deductions

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for over 500 employees. And whereas
payroll professionals serve as an

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important connection between employees
and employers and work diligently behind

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the scenes to support the effective
operation of organizations and public

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services.
And whereas National Payroll Week

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recognizes the dedication, knowledge,
professionalism, and commitment of

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payroll professionals and celebrates the
important role they play in our

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workforce and communities. And whereas
the 2026 National Payroll Week theme,

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every paycheck creates possibility,
recognizes that each paycheck helps

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employees meet their daily needs, plan
for the future, and pursue personal and

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financial goals.
Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

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Podawani County Board of Supervisors
hereby recognizes September 7th through

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the 11th, 2026 as National Payroll Week
in Padawani County and extends its

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appreciation to the payroll
professionals who work diligently to

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ensure county employees are paid
accurately, timely, and in accordance

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with applicable laws and policies. Dated
this 8th day of September, 2026.

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And I believe we have we have some
payroll professionally.

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» Kelly and Angie head up our payroll
department for the county, an office

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that I think everybody here is
interested in because everybody likes to

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receive their paycheck on which uh they
do through the hard work, diligence, and

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untiring work of these people.
>> And um some of you have seen it

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firsthand. Some of you only know that
you get to cash your check. But um

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deposit your check, whatever. But um
thank you. Thank you both Kelly and

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Angie for your hard work.
>> Everybody loves you. Everybody's

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very relevant.
[laughter]

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» You don't have to.

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And and you work closely with payroll
administrators from the sheriff's office

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and roads and it takes a team to keep
track of everything.

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» Thank you, Maryanne.
>> Where do you want me? I I get off your

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symmetry here. [laughter]
Oh, wait a minute. Badge.

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All right.
Thank you.

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» Susan, thank you. Thanks.
>> Congratulations.

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[clears throat]
>> Oh, they're gonna go do payroll.

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» Where's that proclamation?
>> Okay. They're they're uh they're

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obviously very important people. Wait,
Kelly, Angie,

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» come back,
>> but professional.

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» Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you
very much.

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» Thank you. That was good.

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» Yay.

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Main director planning development
discussion under decision to approve

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roof replacement proposal from West
Central Roofing for the recycling center

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northern building.

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» Yes. Uh this year our building that's on
the north side of the property houses

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our compactor
um and our plastic storage along with

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our little maintenance room for the
minor equipment that we have out there.

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Uh the roof is in need of replacement.
It has some old skylights on it that

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need to come out and have some metal put
down on them. And then we would like to

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have the roof recotated like we did our
building that is runs the east side of

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the property on there. These buildings
are a little bit unique in shape and

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design for those that who've been out
there to see it. The guttering system is

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actually built into and sits on top of
the exterior walls. So they're bit it's

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not like a normal pull your metal off,
put new metal on, you got a new roof

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type of system. um West Central was able
to come up with a design that coats the

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building and then runs down into the
[clears throat] gutters to ensure that

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we don't have any continuing leaks on
the there on the property. So, um and

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the it's not a funding request. I'm not
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budgeted for. It's just it's it's a
large expense. I wanted to make sure

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that I got the board's approval before
we move forward with it.

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» Matt, how old is that building?
>> 1980s.

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seen those gutters before and you just
always thought that was an odd

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replacement odd system, you know.
>> So, um Brian, I'll make the motion to

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approve the roof replacement proposal
from West Central Roofing for the

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recycling center's northern building in
the amount of $45,100.

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» I'll second the motion.
Uh Matt [clears throat]

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the I take it this is in your budget,
>> correct?

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» Um would you would you do the board a
favor when you have another project like

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this come to us so maybe we could fund
it out of gaming instead of

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um budgeting taxing for it?
Yes, I can. On the recycle center is

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where we have the the general fund line
item for the recycle center

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and a portion of those funds each year
go to the city of council bluffs for our

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household hazardous program and then the
other portion of the remaining funds we

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have been utilizing for capital expenses
out there like funding new recycle

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trailers. Um, the roof is just an online
item that we've used that way in the

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past. But yes, I can certainly do that

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» questions, comments. No.
Got a motion by Miller, a second by

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Jones to approve the roof replacement
from West Central Roofing Recycling

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Center. All in favor signify by saying
I. I.

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» Those opposed. Motion carry. Do you have
a timeline for that?

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» I believe Tom said they would start in
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Okay. Matt Wy up again. Discussion under
decision on appointments to the zoning

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board adjustments.
>> Yes. So, first up, the zoning board of

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adjustment. Uh unfortunately Karen
Anderson has to step down. She has uh

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they have moved into town and uh so with
that then we needed to find a

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replacement for her. We did post it up
on the website. We received some

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applications in and through that
application process. Uh Angela Lipert

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came in and interviewed with us and
she's attended a couple of different

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meetings now to uh familiarize herself
with the board. She's been looking for a

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way to be more involved in the community
and serving on a spot like this. Uh so I

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think she has a uh she comes from a real
estate background. Karen was a real

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estate background. Uh so I think we're
it'll be a good swap for us. So Angela's

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first appointment on that then would be
to fulfill Karen's term. Karen's term

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currently ends on December 31st of 2027.

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» I'll move that for you, Matt. a second.

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Motion by Wickman, a second by
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to approve Angela Liippard
to the zoning board of adjustment. All

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in favor signify by saying I. I. Those
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» Is that L I P E R T?
>> Yes.

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» Okay.
Next up, Matt, you're up again. And we

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have a an appointment to the Board of
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And you
>> This will be for Tom Hol, Thomas Holm to

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the Board of Appeals.
And this would be for a term that would

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end on 1231
of 30. We have been we had been looking

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for uh plumbing background uh for the
board of appeals for some time now since

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uh Jim Sever stepped down from that. The
board of appeals is one that you don't

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hear of often. It's met one time in the
14 years that we've had building codes.

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So it's it's not a widely utilized
board, but it is a board that because we

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have building codes established and
permitting process that we have to have

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appointed in case somebody were to come
want to use it. It's not a board that

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people can go to to have uh code
varianced or overridden by them. It is

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merely, we'll just utilize plumbing as
an example of this. If somebody were to

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come in and they had a new technology
that they felt met the building code in

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in the plumbing code for its use, but it
had not been recognized um locally yet,

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then they could bring it before the
board of appeals and say, you know, they

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would like to utilize this technology
and this construction method and the

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board of appeals would be the ones who
would say, "Yeah, that's okay. You can

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you're okay to use that."
>> Do you remember what the one time was?

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The one time we met was actually for an
organizational meeting just to bring

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everybody together and talk about what
the board of appeals was and and why we

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were uh putting it together. So,
>> okay.

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» But Tom has an extensive background in
plumbing. Um I think, you know, he'll be

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a really great addition to the board. He
has kind of retired out from, I believe,

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doing the day-to-day plumbing. He's
doing some instructing and keeps himself

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active in that way. So, he stays up to
date on all the latest codes and things

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that are going on. Okay. I'll make the
motion that we appoint Tom Holm to the

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board of appeals.
>> I'll second that.

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» Matt, how many, if I can, how many
people serve on that?

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» Five.
>> Okay. You have to have a plumber,

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electrician, and a
HBAC person.

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» Yeah. Architecture and engineer.
>> That's four.

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What
>> What trades did you say? You have

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electrical, plumbing,
>> HVSE.

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electrical plumbing HVAC.
>> Okay. I didn't mean to put you on the

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spot. I
>> It's listed on the code.

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» So, he is filling the plumbers.
>> Okay.

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» And that is HOLM. Correct.
>> Holm. Yes.

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» Any other questions, comments?
Motion by Jones, second by Jurgensson to

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approve Thomas Holm to the board of
adjust or a board of appeals. I'm sorry.

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And uh all in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Those opposed. Motion carried.

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Thanks.
>> And that's for a term ending December 20

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» and the previous one was 27.
>> 27.

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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Mhm.

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» Thank you.
>> Yes.

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» Next up, Andy Wix, engineer. discussion
in our decision on funding for one-time

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road improvements for fiscal year 27.
Hi Andy, how's it going?

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» Hey, it's a good day. So,
um, we met a handful of times this past

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year talking about several different
locations to improve roads to spur on

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residential development. And the four we
ended up getting approval for were 400th

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Street just south of Carson, 240th
Street just south of Highway 92, 245th

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and additionally Hackberry near Westfair
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however, oh, so we just finished 400th
Street. Um, we put asphalt down our HMA

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and so far good feedback from the
residents, but we got the invoice and I

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sent it to Stevie and Stevie said, "What
do you want me to do with it?" So, um,

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we wanted to come before the board and
get confirmation on where we would be

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paying for these roadway improvements. I
was under the impression that the board

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had um put aside money um in the general
fund to pay for these onetime roadway

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improvements one time.
>> That's what we agreed upon.

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» And I just wanted to get confirmation on
where that money was coming from.

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» That was that was the reserves.
>> Whose reserves?

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» The county's reserves. That's what we
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» No. Um
We we made it part of his five-year road

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plan
and that those costs were included in

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his road plan.
>> Um and if uh it said um

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green green items, I don't know if you
guys probably don't have this, the green

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items would be excluded from his plan if
funded with planning dollars.

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I mean, those are our green ones. And
those I I keep all this stuff, Andy. And

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that included the 400th Street, Silo,
240th Street,

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um, Hecberry,

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uh, there was a bunch of them on here.
Jefferson, Climb Kils, Skihill Loop,

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um 290th Street,
those were all part of your fiveyear

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road plan
and they were going to come off your

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plan if it were going to be paid with
planning dollars.

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» So, yeah, to provide the timeline like
Tim is saying. So in February sat down

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and went through the my 5-year program
and I had 400 street on secondary roads

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5-year program and then we also had
240th uh on the 5-year program. Then um

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in March we did a study session uh with
Mitch Kai and he determined or he said

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that we had some extra funds in the
general fund. Um at least that was our

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recollection. Um
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in June we sat down and said, "Okay,
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240th, 400, uh and Juniper." And based
off of those four locations, I was still

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under the impression that we were using
the general fund dollars and not my

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secondary roads fund because in my
5-year program, the 240th and 400th

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Street were in years three and four and
not my year one. So even if they would

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have been funded out of secondary roads
funds, they would not have been out of

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this fiscal year.
>> Yeah, they were in your fiscal year 27,

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which is
And while we're in [clears throat] at

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the beginning of the year when it when
we began the planning sessions for this

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and the idea was proposed to Andy and I,
it was if you both if we were if the

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board were to give you two $2 million,
what roads would we pick and do to

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upgrade those to help spend down the
reserve balance that we had at the time?

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And so we went about planning together
to put together the different proposals

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and uh number of times that we came
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And then we kind of got it when we had
it whittleled down to the final four

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projects. We were like right at a
million dollars. We're actually we

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didn't even go with the two million, we
went to $1 million. So, um, and being in

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the study sessions with Mitch and stuff,
that's what it was always kind of

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planned to be. It was to spin down the
reserve to do these extra roads spur

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development on it.
>> That's how I thought we voted on it.

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» Yeah. Actually, I initiated this whole
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the time of the radio upgrade that there
was some funds that were left over from

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diligence from the department heads of
not spending their full budgets for the

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last couple years. It was about $2
million. I sent an an email to both of

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you saying, "Could you please identify
some roads that would not only um help

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the county, but it would spur economic
development." You identified those those

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four projects. It was 1 million as
opposed to 2 million. And my thought

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after my talk with Mitch was that was
going to come from reserves.

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when
when we had the cap five-year cap

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five-year road plan, those funds were in
his plan, not coming from not coming

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from the county
um reserves.

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Uh
I think it's important that uh we um

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I think all all of us agreed on on those
four locations.

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» Yep. Um,
I just want to make sure that uh

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we have
those funds

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to spend.
And if not, um, how many have we

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started, Andy? We've started two of the
four. So, we've we've finished Carson,

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right? Yep. What other one have you
started? 245th and Hackberry.

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by Westfair.
>> Juniper

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started Juniper, too.
>> Yeah, we have our staff on Juniper.

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Correct. So, we have not paid the
contractor on Juniper yet or we have not

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paid to get the contractor on Juniper,
but my staff has been out there prepping

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Juniper as well.
>> What's the Hackberry? What's the

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Hackberry Shield Code cost?
>> Yeah, that

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» Yes, that will be

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roughly $200,000.
Okay.

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Is how about Juniper?
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on on this sheet that I'm looking at.
You have it at $865,000.

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» That's asphalt costs, right?
>> Yeah. So, seal coat would only be

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$200,000. What are we doing? Seal coat.
We're looking at 200. Correct. 200 on

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Juniper, 200 on Hackberry.

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» What's the other one?
>> 240th Street. Um, however, that's going

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to be pushed to the spring at a minimum.
The hope was to get to it this fall, but

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just due to the contractor, we won't be
able to touch that till the spring.

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And that's $300,000 is what we
identified there.

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» That works out well for us on a dirt
moving project that's going to

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potentially happen in that area. We
don't want to ruin a new road.

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» So, that one won't happen till spring.
Um, if the board decides to add another

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section of road
and you get that done before it freezes

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on a seal coat project,

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I hope to. I depends on what the weather
does. Um

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the hope is yes that we can do all this
and more. Um but just depends on the

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contractor's workload. There's only one
contractor in the metro that does

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this type of seal cutting and
I need to talk to

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the
>> Did you lose the other contractor out of

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I think they were out of Harlem, weren't
they?

428
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:57,040
» So we still work with that contractor.
They just only do half the work now.

429
00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:02,720
Okay.
>> So, 400 streets done. Is that uh is that

430
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:08,160
budgeted number what you spent?
>> We spent 226,000 and some change. So,

431
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,760
just about that 227.
>> Okay.

432
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,760
» That's asphalt,
>> correct? That Yeah, that is the only of

433
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,520
these four identified projects that is
asphalt.

434
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:23,520
» Do we turn that over to the city at this
point?

435
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,400
I believe that's going to be a
conversation between the board.

436
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,320
» That's what we talked about to begin
with,

437
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:34,320
» right? We had several different
agreements with Carson on that fact. I

438
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:38,320
think with the number of they've had
some turnover there on staff and elected

439
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,680
officials, and I think we'd have we're
going to have to go back out and have

440
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,599
that conversation again with them. Yeah.
>> Okay. As we always talked about, once it

441
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,960
was done, they're taking it.
>> That's the whole goal of it, right? Is

442
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:58,000
to help those small towns. Yep. Okay.
So, at the at the top of uh the sheet,

443
00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Matt, that Andy provided it, it says the
items in green would be excluded from

444
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:07,839
the um
five-year plan for roads if funded with

445
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,680
planning dollars. How many how much
planning dollars you got?

446
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,320
» I believe in the conversations Mitch had
ideas was that the board would funnel

447
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,160
some money into planning.
>> Oh, is that how we're doing?

448
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,680
» Yeah. To pay for those invoices.
>> Okay.

449
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,440
per from reserve discuss.
>> Sorry.

450
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,040
» And I and I do
>> this is why I asked Andy to bring this

451
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:33,119
because this is the confusion that I
have when I'm giving directions on where

452
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:39,119
to pay these invoices from. So I've been
hearing different different answers from

453
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:45,410
different people. So I just wanted us
all in the same room to decide how we

454
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,599
are funding this. My impression
[clears throat]

455
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:54,000
» was that there were going to be general
fund dollars, part of the 1 million and

456
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,720
the extra two million from gaming that
Mitch had set aside to go into the

457
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:03,599
capital improvements fund and to come
out to these other projects. My thought

458
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:09,200
was that these projects were included in
there. However, there was nothing firm

459
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,000
ever put down. So, I really would like
us to firm it up today so that we can

460
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:20,079
all be on the same page.
>> Well, the the the capital plan or the

461
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:24,400
capital projects fund
um was

462
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,240
bond funds
and

463
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,760
um
it came from the cash reserves or the

464
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,480
general fund.
>> Yes.

465
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:39,119
» No gaming went in there yet.
>> They have not been transferred into

466
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:43,119
there yet. No. Yeah. But that was the
intent from what my understanding was

467
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,520
the intent was that we were going to
move funds in there from gaming and the

468
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:53,119
general fund. The transfers have not yet
been requested.

469
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:57,680
» Fund is where we I thought we'd discuss
that coming from

470
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:04,000
» and unfortunately I wasn't here when
this went with Mitch. So that's why I

471
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:08,480
really need some clarity on the topic.
Ryan and I discussed a little bit about

472
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:13,839
having a uh capital plan discussion at
next week's uh board meeting and I think

473
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:21,520
that's imperative that we have that and
this we can continue this discussion for

474
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:26,320
then for then um if you want to and
have all the projects that we know we

475
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:30,640
have and figure out how we're going to
fund them all. I mean I don't have a

476
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:34,560
problem with with the roads that were
working on sail coding. I just want to

477
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:40,079
make sure we know where the money is
coming from because we really didn't

478
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:46,000
decide any of that and my impression,
my thoughts, initial thoughts and still

479
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:49,839
were my thoughts even today
>> that those projects were in Andy's

480
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:54,160
five-year plan.
>> No.

481
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,599
» So, you're saying you you want the money
to come from his

482
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:02,079
» I'm not saying anything, Keith. All I'm
saying that that was my impression of

483
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:07,440
the discussion we had with him. they
were included in his five-year plan. Um,

484
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:13,520
I'm looking at his fiscal year 27
proposed.

485
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:18,720
Um, and
uh,

486
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:27,280
I don't have I was trying to find his he
sent us a uh, I think it was an Excel

487
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:34,640
spreadsheet of each year where the funds
were going from his fiveyear plans. I

488
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,680
can't find that. So, I think if you re
if you could resend that to the board,

489
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:44,160
we can take another look at it, figure
out where we're going to go with this.

490
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:50,560
» Yeah, the I can find that Excel
document. The board did approve um in

491
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:58,480
May the 5-year program, and it did have
400 street. I just kept it in the

492
00:39:53,359 --> 00:40:03,760
five-year program as um a 2030 project.
um

493
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:09,359
FY 2030, but
>> yeah, the the map Tim is referring to,

494
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:13,280
we talked about March 30th at a a study
session, so it should be in the packet

495
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:18,000
from from then, but obviously I did not
provide that today. So, I can resend

496
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:22,040
that as well.
I think that uh

497
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:30,960
I do remember that discussion and I
think Miss Miller and I spoke that we've

498
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:37,440
been trying to get this project done for
six to eight years and wanted to get

499
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:43,040
that moved up so far as we could um put
some more homes in there. So I think we

500
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:47,359
moved that up if I recall.
>> I think it was you and Brian.

501
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:51,359
» Which specific? 400 Street.
>> Yes. That's that's been going We've been

502
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,200
talking about that forever.
>> Yeah.

503
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:58,000
» And then transferring it to the city.
>> I don't want to go through the emails

504
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,640
right now, but I was the one that
initiated all of this.

505
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:06,800
» Well, I I remember the email.
>> Okay. And it was definitely based on

506
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:11,040
excess reserve money. That's where the
money came from. Now, I understand your

507
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:16,319
point. We have a big expense coming up
when it comes to the replacement of the

508
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:22,160
jail HVAC system. Um
I I I don't want to raid his money to

509
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,200
pay for
that budget out of a festival you're

510
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,480
talking about. I mean the money is going
to come from us one way or another.

511
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:32,240
» Was going to come from the county.
>> Correct.

512
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:36,240
» Well, um you know that the discussion we
can we can certainly have next. We can

513
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:40,560
have it right now if you want to. Um
when

514
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:45,040
uh Steve Lynn came and told us uh that
our cash reserves are at 28%.

515
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,800
And if the board is comfortable with
that, is that what it was? 28%.

516
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:53,920
» Using that calculation. Yes.
>> Yes. Instead [clears throat] of the 35.

517
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:58,720
So if the board's still comfortable at
28 or 25, I mean, we can we can take the

518
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,440
reserves down as far as you want to. You
just have to be able to be comfortable

519
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:07,839
with it. And there's so many factors
that come into play with that like uh

520
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:13,839
your bond rating. Not not to say that
we're going to bond anything, but your

521
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:20,240
you know your bond rating. um another
health disaster like COVID and you know

522
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:25,760
those kind of things you or a flood I
mean so we want to be able to have some

523
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:28,689
funds in there to um address those needs
too. [clears throat]

524
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:41,960
» So what I provided you was a quick
breakdown of if we transferred the funds

525
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:41,960
in from general fund and gaming

526
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:49,599
and then projects that we have slated or
possibly slated to come out of that

527
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:54,640
capital improvements plan this year.
Although looking at the most updated

528
00:42:52,960 --> 00:43:02,079
numbers that Andy's provided, I'm not
quite there. Um I used an older email

529
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:08,640
estimate for some of his projects there.
Uh but that's putting us at 5.5 million.

530
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:14,720
So it'll be a little less closer to 5
million um at the end of the fiscal year

531
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:18,400
if we look at these specific projects
coming from that capital improvements

532
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:25,119
fund.
>> And if we do that, we'll be at 25% of

533
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:31,040
our fund balance or 28%.
>> So this is Yeah. Well, what's projected

534
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:36,160
for the end of this year? Yes.
>> Yes. And this is again that one in two

535
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,680
million that Mitch had on the plan for
the year that has not yet been

536
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:44,319
transferred. So that has not been put
into action. It's just as far as my

537
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:49,040
understanding is was the intent.
>> We need to go back and review this

538
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,640
because we gave Andy specific
instructions to go ahead with these four

539
00:43:51,119 --> 00:44:00,319
projects
with that funding coming from us.

540
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,880
And that's what we need. That's what we
need to do and I just assume this was an

541
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:06,960
idea.
>> Yeah, we shouldn't hurt Andy's future

542
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:11,440
projects based on what we did in the
middle of the fiscal year.

543
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,000
» And I don't have any intent to do that.
No,

544
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,839
» I'm only saying that this is basically
if we're saying it's coming from the

545
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:23,440
general fund. This outlines how that
looks, we would still utilize that 1

546
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:28,560
million that was set aside, put it into
capital projects and fund it that way.

547
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:33,359
So, it's still coming from the general
fund. Basically, it's just running

548
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:39,119
through that capital projects.
We are still covering our current year's

549
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:44,319
bond payments from the capital projects
fund,

550
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:50,800
» which is what was in the bond levy.
Um, as far as future levies, my most

551
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:57,839
recent information, so what the final
bond levy went through says, we pay this

552
00:44:54,319 --> 00:45:06,119
current year's debt service from funds
on hand and we levy in future years.

553
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,119
thoughts.

554
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:14,960
» So those dollars that are in the capital
improvements fund are not specifically

555
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:20,319
set to pay off those bond funds.
>> That's ex That's exactly what this board

556
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:27,680
did. We when we got those bond funds, we
put them in that capital project fund to

557
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,280
pay down that debt. Not to spend on
anything else, but to pay down that

558
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,640
debt.
And um

559
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:44,960
we've already had this discussion months
ago and it was not brought up that we

560
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:49,839
were in
an adverse position to spend that money

561
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:55,960
at that time and he acted on that
discussion. He spent the million dollars

562
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,960
as we asked him to do.

563
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:04,079
Where you going to get the money, Keith?
>> Well, we don't have the money for the

564
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,119
Hback either.
>> No, we're working on that. I mean,

565
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:10,079
that's that's part of the capital
discussion we're going to have next

566
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:14,880
week,
>> but we told him to spend that million

567
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:17,119
dollars months ago.
>> Well,

568
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,880
» and now we're going to tell him that he
needs to find the money himself.

569
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:29,280
» I I [clears throat] don't recall that
discussion. you know, I I kept the

570
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:35,520
uh his five-year road plan. I mean, if
he send us sends us that um Excel

571
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:41,440
spreadsheet
and

572
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:46,319
uh you know, it's it says in there that
we're going to take it from the board.

573
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:50,560
The board's paying for it. That's okay.
But it doesn't say that, Keith. But I

574
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:53,359
don't recall that conversation or said
>> we don't want him to push back other

575
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,319
projects that he already had planned
based on what we told him to do.

576
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,880
» Other projects will be impacted.
>> It was part of his fiveyear plan.

577
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:06,720
But
>> we asked them to move them up though,

578
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,440
didn't we? Well, basically, yeah, we we
did actually

579
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:15,599
for that if you had $2 million
>> and anything

580
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:19,760
» is basically up in the air. Ain't it
>> said go

581
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:25,119
» fiveyear planning is is up in the air. I
mean, it's just it's uh give or take,

582
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:29,680
could be, not could be. I mean, I I
don't I don't see any fiveyear plan

583
00:47:27,972 --> 00:47:36,079
[clears throat]
being solid, period, for anything.

584
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,599
It's it's a it's a requirement from the
state of Iowa that our second that our

585
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,680
engineer provides a five-year plan to
the state.

586
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,520
» All this is subject to change. Am I
right?

587
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,319
» It can change.
>> The five-year plan one and two are rock

588
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,560
solid. Years three, four, and five are
basically iffy. That's what the

589
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:57,599
five-year plan is.
And that road that we're talking about

590
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:03,359
was in year 2030.
>> Correct. That's the what was signed in

591
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:09,800
May. Um, we asked him to do this and now
we have to finance it.

592
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,800
» I agree. I agree too.

593
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:17,280
» And the reason this is coming to a head
is we did get the invoice for 400 Street

594
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,079
and we have 30 days to pay that invoice.
So, didn't you pay that already? I'd

595
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,680
like to
>> I had sent that through. I will have to

596
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:28,599
check and see if it has actually been
finalized.

597
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,599
» I thought you mentioned 400,000.

598
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:37,200
» 400,000.
That's under the

599
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:42,880
» we did a good thing now that in place
>> and they did a lot of extra work on this

600
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:47,680
which was directed by me. Um and Mitch
had told me the numbers were there and I

601
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,079
acted on those numbers and I presented
it that way.

602
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:05,119
Well, I just I mean,
we just need to we need to fund them

603
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:09,920
from somewhere where we know we we're
going to have the funds and that capital

604
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:12,920
projects fund.
Um

605
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,640
those funds were set aside for that bond
because we didn't you're

606
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:24,640
» right
>> didn't let that so it out of there

607
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:30,000
taking a million
>> but in the future years based on the

608
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:33,680
bond documents we are supposed to be
levying.

609
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:38,319
» Not only that but we actually thought
about doing $2 million and they came in

610
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,760
at $1 million. So, we could be looking
at a $2 million price tag right right

611
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:44,559
now, which we're not.
>> Actually, I think we cut the project

612
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,440
back some.
>> We did. They brought us several roads.

613
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,599
» They brought us several different ideas
and we sat as a board and said, "Let's

614
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:57,160
do this one instead of that one."
>> And here we are.

615
00:49:59,934 --> 00:50:09,359
[clears throat]
Well, we got a bill due and

616
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:14,680
can't make the the motion, but I think
we got funding.

617
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:14,680
» What? Uh,

618
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:23,680
» Lind, do you have a recommendation?
>> Well, the 400 400th Street invoice I

619
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:31,200
paid out of the capital improvements
fund. I do suggest we continue with that

620
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:36,160
process and if it would make you guys
more comfortable, we can come next week

621
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:41,520
and suggest those transfers from the
general fund and gaming so that we know

622
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:46,920
those are in place and moving.
>> Uh or we can push those off if we want.

623
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,920
500.

624
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,200
» So, we have enough funds in there now
that doesn't need a transfer yet

625
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:02,400
» and we can talk about that more next
week if we prefer um about the extra one

626
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:06,240
and two million that Mitch had on the
current US plan.

627
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:10,760
» Well, we've got two other two other
projects we're in the middle of, right?

628
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,319
So I think either way transfer the funds
to 40th Street.

629
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:22,640
» Yeah, I would continue to utilize the
capital improvements fund. We have the

630
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:30,720
money in there as it is right now. We're
not in dire of putting that fund in a

631
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:34,000
negative position. Um but we can again
with the capital improvements that you

632
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,440
guys want to talk about next week, I
confirm that up and we can talk about

633
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,880
whether or not those additional
transfers will go through.

634
00:51:49,599 --> 00:52:00,000
So, we need a motion today to pay for
these three projects that are on the on

635
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:04,480
the board.
>> I would request that you guys consider

636
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:11,440
all four that he has. If the intent is
still for him to do all four,

637
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:18,640
» it was just a
I'll make a motion that we pay for the

638
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:25,079
four projects as decided months ago um
from general fund reserves and then the

639
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:25,079
200,000 from gaming.

640
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:32,480
» How much from gaming?
>> What is that what you said? 200 from

641
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:38,400
» We have Well, Mitch's plan had 1 million
from the general funds and 2 million

642
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:42,160
from gaming. 200,
>> not two million, right?

643
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:45,520
» I've got two million, but he had
suggested

644
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,079
» the four projects are going to be at
about how much?

645
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,760
» Just under a million total.
>> Yeah. So, we should be okay.

646
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,480
» 927,000
is what it's going to be.

647
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:59,119
» Okay. So, we should be fine without
touching gaming then at this point.

648
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:04,000
» At this point, we are. Yes.
>> In fact, we're we're looking at another

649
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,680
project today down the road that's on
the agenda.

650
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,079
And I assume that was coming from
reserves.

651
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:15,839
» Well,
>> okay. And yeah, we'll get into that. Uh,

652
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:19,800
» so $927,000
from excess

653
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:24,720
01 fund reserves.
>> Okay.

654
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,920
» We don't have any excess.
>> Well, we have money that was not spent

655
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:31,359
in the last three budget years. So,
that's the money that we're looking at.

656
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:35,440
» It goes right into
>> We took which goes right into general.

657
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:40,160
We took some of that
>> for 911.

658
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:45,839
» Exactly. Um I think the amount we took
from from that for 911 was close to six

659
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,440
or eight, right?
>> Yeah.

660
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,440
» No, about 10 million.

661
00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:56,720
What was your desire initially though
for that? Was it the whole thing?

662
00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:01,880
» Yeah.
>> Which means we had reserves left over.

663
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:11,040
We we had enough to keep us afloat
and we still do. The whole project was

664
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,119
what? 16.
>> Yes.

665
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:20,839
» And you wanted 16 million straight. If
we did 10, that means we have at least 6

666
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,839
million left over somewhere.

667
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:27,440
» That is the 8.6.
>> Spend $16 million off the the radio

668
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:32,480
project.
>> 8.8. But to move this forward, we got we

669
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:37,839
got four four different road projects
here. We can pay four. We just need to

670
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:42,720
to determine what on what fund. Right.
>> Right. I need to know if the come from

671
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:45,280
the general fund.
>> Okay.

672
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,559
» Then if they are coming from the general
fund

673
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:52,640
» where wherever it comes from, I want to
say these four projects went forward

674
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:57,280
like like I assume they were going to
>> Keith's motion was on the general

675
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,983
» uh the general. All right. I'll second
that.

676
00:54:57,963 --> 00:54:59,983
» [clears throat]

677
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:09,680
» Can I read it back, please? See
if [clears throat] you

678
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,079
» Okay.
>> Motion by Jones, second by Jorgensson to

679
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:17,839
fund all secondary roads projects
previously discussed in the amount of

680
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,839
927,000
from

681
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,160
» general
>> from general fund. Okay.

682
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:28,160
» You need to you need to put the roads in
there, Mary. I'm going to Can I get that

683
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:31,359
from you, Andy, after the meeting? This
project.

684
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:36,079
» Okay. No. U go ahead and name them,
Andy. So, she has

685
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:44,040
» So, 400th Street, just south of Carson,
uh 240th Street from Highway 92 to

686
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,040
Pioneer Trail,

687
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:52,559
245th Street, adjacent to Hackberry.
>> 245th.

688
00:55:50,960 --> 00:56:00,839
» Correct. 245th Street.
>> All right. adjacent to Hackberry. Um

689
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,839
that goes south to Highway 6.

690
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:08,240
And then the last one,
>> Juniper

691
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:11,720
» is Juniper [clears throat] from Weston A
to L34.

692
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:25,680
» Sorry, Juniper Road, not Juniper.
>> Andy, will you uh would please find that

693
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,440
uh Excel spreadsheet. Send it to the
board, please.

694
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,400
» Yes.
>> And it's 400th Street,

695
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:37,119
240th Street
from 92nd

696
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:44,880
» Highway 92
Pioneer Trail. Yep.

697
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:47,200
» 245th Street adjacent to Hackberry Road.
And

698
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,079
» there's some Hackberry Road on there,
isn't there?

699
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:55,280
» There is also some Hackberry. Yes. and
Juniper Road from Western Avenue to L34.

700
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,799
» Weston S. [clears throat]
>> Sorry, I have Weston written. I spoke

701
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,960
Western. Yes, Weston.
>> Yep.

702
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:07,359
» To L34. Correct.
>> Motion by Jones, second by Jorgensson to

703
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:14,079
approve funding for one-time road
improvement for fiscal year 27 for in

704
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:20,720
the $927,000.
All in favor signify by saying I. I. I.

705
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:23,440
Those opposed.
>> Would you um please

706
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,760
» Motion carried
>> send us a fund balance?

707
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:33,720
Becky [clears throat] used to send them
to us every week.

708
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,720
» Um

709
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,960
that's going to help for for next week
for sure.

710
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,480
» Sure. Absolutely.
Have a meeting with Josh this afternoon.

711
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:58,520
Okay. Andy Wix, engineer discussion and
their decision on seal coating of Snow

712
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,520
Hill plane.

713
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:09,119
» Yes. So I have a handout. I'm sorry I
did not include it in the packet,

714
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:13,000
but it is just clarifying the bounds
that we will be talking about.

715
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:19,319
Should have made it bigger. There you
go. Give me glasses.

716
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,760
» Thank you.

717
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:30,960
» Did you make this Andy?
>> Yes. This is not a formal. This was at

718
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:36,480
9:25 today. I put this together.
>> Your loops are a little off.

719
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:41,839
» Correct. So, high level, we're talking
about Snow Hill Lane.

720
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:48,720
It is a road adjacent to ski hill loop
that connects to the the ski hill at

721
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:53,839
Crescent
Nature area.

722
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:58,000
» Correct. So yeah, the to get your
bearings on the map, Old Lincoln Highway

723
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:05,119
is on the the right side of the map. It
runs north to south. uh Hitchcock Nature

724
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Center is on the north um
very very top of the the handout and

725
00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:17,839
then the the ski hill is kind of in the
bottom left.

726
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:22,400
And I um
yeah, I was talking with a couple board

727
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:27,520
members and we thought that it may be
beneficial to Seal Coat Snow Hill Lane.

728
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,079
» I have a series of questions. Was this
on your five-year plan?

729
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:36,000
» No.
>> Who asked you to do this specifically?

730
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,359
» I asked him for a price.
>> Where's this money coming from?

731
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:43,280
» It's coming from gaming, Keith.
>> Did you talk about this months ago?

732
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,200
» So,
>> we've talked about this for a couple

733
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,359
years.
>> I'm just trying to get my bearings with

734
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,119
this.
>> But, but thanks for calling me out on

735
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:57,680
that, Keith. I appreciate it very much.
>> I am all for this. uh economic

736
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,640
development.
>> Yes,

737
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:07,920
» it which it it is it's for economic
development.

738
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:13,319
Part of the discussion that I had with
um Andy was that um

739
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:29,599
all of our parks have silo rose.
There's one that doesn't.

740
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:36,000
And um well although the entrance to
Hitchcock

741
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:41,186
Lodge and and the nature area in general
is further north off of Highway.

742
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:44,400
It's not a highway anymore.
[clears throat]

743
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:47,920
» 183. It's sub highway, but it's
>> what's that?

744
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,200
» 183 Lincoln Highway.
>> Old Lincoln Highway. Thanks for that,

745
01:00:49,359 --> 01:00:54,400
Andy. I appreciate report.
>> Okay. Thanks, man.

746
01:00:52,720 --> 01:01:01,119
um
old Lincoln Highway, [laughter]

747
01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:10,559
the other entrance to Hitchcock area and
a part of our recreational opportunity

748
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:16,960
is to that skiill loop area.
We know that we got an estimate for

749
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:22,040
$100,000 for
keyhill loop and aundred

750
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:33,839
000 estimate to take it to old um
Lincoln Highway and that would be part

751
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:38,559
of Ski Hill Loop. Is that right, Andy?
>> So the the green portion on the map is

752
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:43,040
Ski Hill Loop. Um but it would connect
to Snow Hill Lane. Correct. Um, yeah, my

753
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:50,240
recommendation would be if we're going
to seal coat Snow Hill Lane, that blue

754
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,799
bubbled section, we should also seal
coat the green section, which is ski

755
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,680
hill, though.
>> I agree with you, Andy.

756
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:59,599
» Agreed.
>> If the board covered 10 and half of

757
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:05,720
that, could you cover the other 50,
Andy?

758
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,720
» We could. That awesome.

759
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:12,240
This is not part of the capital
improvements project bill. Correct.

760
01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:16,319
» Correct. It is not in our 5year program.
>> Trying to get some background.

761
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:23,119
» Are
you confident it will happen this fall?

762
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:28,960
» So that that I did have a little bit of
hesitation. We are already a little bit

763
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:32,720
behind with our co-contractor. So the
hope if I get direction from the board

764
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:35,839
today to move forward on this, the hope
is that we could get it done this fall.

765
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,280
But
>> the the base the base you do yourself,

766
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:42,960
right?
>> Correct. So, in-house we do base

767
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:47,599
stabilization. The the board helped pay
for a piece of equipment that we can now

768
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:51,680
do base stabilization inhouse. Um,
however, the actual seal coating or

769
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:56,359
sealing the surface, we still need
outside contractor assistance with

770
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:06,240
» you're asking for 150 to do this.
>> Correct. I'll make a motion that we do

771
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:11,079
that. I think it's an excellent idea.
>> From what fund

772
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:11,079
» uh gaming,

773
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,788
» you're awesome, Keith. I'll I'll check
it. I'll second that for you. [laughter]

774
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:27,359
» And specifically, I wanted to confirm
from Old Lincoln Highway to the

775
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:31,920
to the ski hill. So, that's section A
and C hand out. Do do we uh Yes, it

776
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:35,280
would be.
>> But we would not be doing section

777
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,359
section B.
>> You're talking about the red the red

778
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:44,240
lines.
>> Yeah. So, we would we would not go to

779
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:49,760
Hitchcock. We would just do kind of the
east west portion.

780
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:56,640
» Do you um do you plow that?
>> We do plow ski hill loop regularly and

781
01:03:53,599 --> 01:04:02,720
um we coordinate with conservation on
plowing snowill lane. Do you do you plow

782
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,760
uh Snow Hill Lane, Jeff? You know
>> that was contracted out.

783
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,640
» I didn't hear you, Jeff. Contracted out
>> that work is contracted out

784
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:20,880
» by them, not us. Correct.
>> That by conservation and the enterprise

785
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:26,400
fund to get snow.
Well, the part of that was because there

786
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:31,760
was no need for us to bring
Don't you plow snow with separate

787
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:36,640
vehicles versus seal coat versus gravel.
That's why.

788
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:39,119
» So, [snorts] um
maybe you can work with roads and get

789
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:43,680
that taken care of.
>> Yeah.

790
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:49,520
» Save some money there, right?
>> Well, that's what you think, Jeeoff.

791
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:53,160
Andy, what's the average cost per mile
of seal coating?

792
01:04:53,200 --> 01:05:00,880
» About $200,000.
150 to 200.

793
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,599
» Really?
>> Well, if we're doing base stabilization

794
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:09,359
in house.
>> Okay. The whole thing done

795
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,559
about 250.
>> About 250. Okay.

796
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:26,000
All right. Got a motion by Jones, a
second by Wickman to approve

797
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:32,200
Seal Coding, Snow Hill Lane, proving
150,000

798
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,200
» out of gaming.

799
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:39,039
» All [clears throat] in favor signify by
saying I. I.

800
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:42,039
» Those opposed
Oh.

801
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,480
Carry

802
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:57,839
decision for discussion decision
regarding the compensation board.

803
01:05:55,839 --> 01:06:03,200
This board
tried and

804
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:08,690
kind of failed in the last year or so on
this compensation board.

805
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:13,039
We really feel
[clears throat]

806
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:20,720
wanted to bring it up. So
we feel we need to appoint some people

807
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:25,839
to do this. Okay. So back in July 1st,
2024, the state dissolved the

808
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:31,760
compensation board
>> and we had four study sessions in 2024

809
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:38,400
to teach the board how we were going to
do it to determine what the elected

810
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:44,000
official salary should be. And we did
fail miserably. Um I don't like being

811
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:49,839
scolded and that's what I've been
scolded on more than anything.

812
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:57,200
Um, we have several elected officials in
the room today.

813
01:06:52,160 --> 01:07:02,000
And if we were to stand back up the
compensation board, would you guys be

814
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:09,160
all right with that or do you want the
board of supervisors to continue to

815
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,160
flounder and try and get it right?

816
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:18,319
Matt
sent me as his uh spokesperson on this

817
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,839
since he's unavailable today and he
would be in favor of the compensation

818
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,799
board. Obviously, the board has
struggled the board of supervisors has

819
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:32,799
struggled with the um show your work
requirements that the compensation board

820
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:38,160
usually takes over and I it's [snorts]
his opinion that that would be better

821
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:41,760
done by compensation group.
I agree.

822
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:44,559
» Yeah. I disagree.
>> You disagree? Yeah.

823
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,960
» Because I like holding you guys
accountable instead of a compensation

824
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,480
board. So,
>> yeah. Either way, either way you get

825
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,240
» I just think it's a waste of their time
because every year that I've sat through

826
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:58,000
the com board hearings, they recommend
one thing and you guys just do another

827
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,920
anyway. So, it's like, do we buy them
pizza and listen to them talk for an

828
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:04,640
hour for what reason? Besides doing your
homework, I guess that's why I think you

829
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,839
guys should do the homework. And if you
keep failing, then you'll learn

830
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:11,680
eventually, won't you? Well, we failed
twice. We have

831
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:17,040
» We didn't fail the second time. We
failed the first time.

832
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:19,759
Then I wouldn't call it fail. We just
didn't

833
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,960
get enough
>> bases.

834
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,640
» What?
>> We didn't cover all of our bases,

835
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,799
» right?
I What's your thought,

836
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,640
» Andrew? I'm sorry.
>> Andrew,

837
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:35,520
» I mean, I think Andy makes good points,
but

838
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:39,199
» I'm with Andy. [laughter] Well, there's
three Andies in the room here. Which

839
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:44,719
one?
>> No. [laughter]

840
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:47,920
And I never call it Andrew. Andy. I just
>> So, we need middle names. Is that what

841
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:50,480
you're saying?
>> Well,

842
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:54,000
» excuse me.
>> She's with Andrew Bugs.

843
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,120
» There's a motion on the board.
>> No.

844
01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:00,719
» No. I'm asking Andrew had discussion.
Your thoughts?

845
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:06,400
I like boards where I have
representation on there. But Andy, the

846
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:09,120
sheriff Brown makes good points that
>> at the end of the day, you guys can do

847
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:16,640
whatever you want and
>> it always happens that way.

848
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:21,839
» Our our comp can go to lots of work to
supply you, but that doesn't

849
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:27,359
always
happen. But it all matters about money.

850
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:32,159
I understand. At the end of the day,
it's going to be 2%.

851
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:38,719
» So, one of the things that Matt and I
talked about um in preparing preparing

852
01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:41,920
for this meeting was um I mean obviously
the first year that the board did not

853
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:47,120
have a compensation board, there was no
work shown and so I won't use that one.

854
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:54,239
This year it seemed like the approach
from the board of supervisors was

855
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:59,520
the board had a number in mind for
raises and then they used that number to

856
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,440
kind of
>> work backwards

857
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:08,239
» work backwards to to what um you know to
show their work that way. That's the

858
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:13,679
opposite approach of what should happen
or what the compensation board does. The

859
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:20,159
the compensation board is designed to
look at all of the elected positions and

860
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:25,040
determine what would be a a fair
compensation for those elected positions

861
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:30,480
based on their office comparable, you
know, elected officials in the state in

862
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:36,000
the area. I know some of our departments
have comparable in the private sector.

863
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:41,040
Not all of them do. And so the
compensation board is tasked with

864
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:44,560
looking at what a fair compensation rate
would be and presenting that to the

865
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:48,480
board of supervisors. The board of
supervisors did it the exact opposite

866
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:51,760
way. And I feel like that is the biggest
problem with the show your work

867
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:56,560
requirement. And that has been the
biggest struggle to get across to you

868
01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:00,880
five when you're making that decision
because when you have a number in mind

869
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:05,520
ahead of time and you're just trying to
fit, you know, that square peg into the

870
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:10,239
rack hole, it doesn't work very well.
>> You know, real quick, before we got

871
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:14,000
involved in this, you know, the
conversation building would come to us

872
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:18,159
and they have they had a number a lot of
times there's like eight nine%, you

873
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,480
know, we can only work with what what
what we have for revenue.

874
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:25,040
» Absolutely. And that's where we're at.
That's where I'm coming from. I don't

875
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:29,199
care what anybody says. I'm basing my
decisions on what we can what we can

876
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:33,840
afford for salary increases. I don't
care what any other

877
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:36,080
» county or whatever whatever they do. It
doesn't matter.

878
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:39,520
» And and I understand that, Jeff. I'm
just saying what the what the law has

879
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:44,480
required for the compensation board to
do or the board of supervisors when

880
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:49,840
acting as compensation board is to do
that that work that

881
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:55,840
would show an eight or nine% raise and
then review it even if the county can

882
01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:00,960
only provide a 2% raise you you still
have to do that work and and collect

883
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:06,080
that data per the code. So, so that is
what what the problem has been. And it's

884
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:11,120
it's clear that the board has a hard
time doing that because I I understand

885
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:15,520
the county only has a a certain amount
of funds available. That doesn't change

886
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,640
the code requirements for showing your
work. So, I

887
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:24,880
» I have I'm not an elected official,
>> so I'm just speaking to what what the

888
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:29,120
code says and what the concerns have
been in the past. And it it has been

889
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:34,719
clear that the board struggles with
that. And and I think again I'm not the

890
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:39,920
elected official in the room. That's
just from the legal perspective that has

891
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:44,239
obviously been hard for the board of
supervisors to break out those two

892
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:48,880
separate roles because when you are
acting as your own compensation board,

893
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:53,360
you are acting in a different role than
when you are acting as a board of

894
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:57,679
supervisor or a board of supervisors. um
in determining the actual

895
01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:02,719
» our role is to manage our county budget,
>> but this is county or this is state code

896
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:07,440
is what's required of us.
>> That that's what's hard to understand.

897
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:11,760
» Is talking about
handing off that off to another.

898
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:16,159
» You can't predetermine where we're at
per state code if we're the if we're the

899
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:22,080
compensation board. The spirit of the
law, if not the letter of the law, would

900
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:26,080
suggest that if not required, that if
you're acting as your own compensation

901
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:30,159
board, that then at least one member of
the board would visit with the elected

902
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:35,679
officials. That did not happen in the
case of the auditor's office, even

903
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:42,800
though an off tour was offered um to the
board member assigned. And um I I

904
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:47,360
completely agree with um Kristen's
assessment. You do you do have to step

905
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:54,800
outside your roles as board members and
act in a completely different capacity.

906
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:59,280
» And we we admitted we failed.
>> I mean, you know, we're not perfect.

907
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:07,679
We're human.
>> Well, and I I think we learned a lot and

908
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:12,640
we'll value the compensation board when
they come and speak to us. I mean, we

909
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:15,920
won't just discount what they're telling
us.

910
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:21,040
» I don't think we did a bad job last
year. The first year, I would agree that

911
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,560
um we didn't put our homework in
writing,

912
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:30,320
» right?
>> And you know, [clears throat] however,

913
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:36,480
however Christian wants to um
say [snorts] it, you know, when when

914
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:41,440
we get
I don't know 800 to $1.2 $2 million

915
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:47,800
worth of new money.
And we know a 1% raise for everybody in

916
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,800
the county cost $400,000.

917
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:55,440
If there's no money there, there's no
money. I mean, there we we can't we

918
01:14:53,440 --> 01:15:00,960
can't uh
make that up. It's

919
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:04,719
that's all there is.
Believe me, I think we have some elected

920
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:08,159
officials that deserve a little bit
more.

921
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:15,440
» I agree. I sure totally agree.
>> But when you when you look at them and

922
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:19,840
you rank them across the state in the
counties,

923
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:24,640
we are the 10th largest county and all
of our elected officials are in the top

924
01:15:21,679 --> 01:15:29,520
10. So, we're not doing everything
wrong.

925
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:33,360
Now, if you want to um there there's
some of our elected officials that make

926
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:40,880
more than
um statewide elected officials and um

927
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:46,000
there's
um high ranking state law enforcement

928
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:50,239
officers that make less than our
sheriff. I'm not [clears throat] putting

929
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:55,600
putting Andy down at all. I mean, I
think think that he has a huge

930
01:15:52,960 --> 01:16:00,560
responsibility. We've already started
that homework.

931
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:07,040
Um, and as
as Andy said, Andy Brown said, you know,

932
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:09,760
when when the compensation board comes
to us and says, gosh, we're going to

933
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:14,480
give them all an eight or nine 10%
raise. No, we don't have we don't have

934
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:19,440
the money. So then we say, gosh, we
can't we can't accept that

935
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:24,159
recommendation. Tim, when I say I
thought we failed when we didn't talk

936
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:28,719
» to them at the I believe it was the
first year.

937
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:33,360
» Yeah, we we learned
I think this board learned. So, it's

938
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:37,280
important and I think we have a study
session

939
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,960
and uh
bring them in and sit down and talk with

940
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:47,440
them at some point.
>> You know, the I know that um there were

941
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:51,120
some representatives
on the compensation board that were

942
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:56,480
pissed
because they do the work. They come in

943
01:16:52,880 --> 01:17:02,159
here and have pizza and they they
recommend 6 8 10 12% raises

944
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:07,040
and don't look at the financials
financials of the county or they don't

945
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:11,520
have them yet. They don't have the
information that uh this is all the

946
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:15,840
county has in new money and that's all
we have to spend. They don't have that

947
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:21,040
information. So when they when they make
that recommendation,

948
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:25,760
um,
we can't we can't agree with it. We

949
01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:30,719
don't have the money to do it.
>> If it's over, then we got to look at

950
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:35,840
cuts,
strong cuts, and they're not fun. And

951
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:39,080
that it's not easy for this board to
make cuts.

952
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:47,120
Hopefully, it won't come to that. I I
don't know what what the right thing to

953
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:54,480
do is. I don't think we did a bad job at
all last year. Um I think we done our we

954
01:17:51,600 --> 01:18:01,400
had our homework and whether it was
correct or not, I thought we worked on

955
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:01,400
it pretty good. So,

956
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:11,280
okay. So, what's the board want to do
here? We got discussion or no decision

957
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:15,440
decision regarding the compensation.
I will make a motion to approve

958
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:20,440
reinstatement of the compensation board
with the elected officials. Second that

959
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:34,800
» and I make that recommendation with or I
make that motion with the recommendation

960
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:39,000
that we u apply all of the lessons
learned since 2024.

961
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:48,320
Okay, I got a motion by Miller and a
second by Jorgensson

962
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:51,880
to reinstate the compensation board with
elected officials.

963
01:18:51,920 --> 01:19:00,360
» You will. I'll call that brand.
>> Yeah, I would. Please.

964
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,360
» Chairman Shay,

965
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:06,520
» can you start with someone else? Okay,
I'll go first. Uh N.

966
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:16,440
Mr. Chairman, do you want me to come
back to you?

967
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,159
» Hey, real quick. Sorry if it's even
>> Yes. Go ahead.

968
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:25,040
» Are you guys going to be appointing this
board or we need to go find our people

969
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:30,420
again? If if this passes,
>> you guys get to appoint a representative

970
01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:32,239
to the compensation board.
[clears throat]

971
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:36,480
» And
I do think we done an all right job last

972
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:40,320
year. Here's my thought, and I'm not
going to be here next year, so I'm just

973
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,199
saying this from as a disinterested
person. We're going to bring in a group

974
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:48,880
of people from the community. They're
going to do a lot of work, and because

975
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:52,960
of the 2% floor or ceiling, um, most of
their ideas are going to be negated. I

976
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:58,800
just feel bad doing that to a group of
people from the community. Um,

977
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,719
» was it 24 that a lot of them spoke out
that they weren't happy?

978
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:03,199
» Yeah.
>> I I mean, I get recumbent. My

979
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:07,679
understanding you guys don't have the
money. It's like but they come in here

980
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:09,920
and do recommendations and I think in 24
>> 2023

981
01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:14,239
» was it 23
>> in 23 none of the board showed up to the

982
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:20,320
hearing
>> and they all they did was essentially

983
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:23,040
speak their you know
I want to word this they weren't happy

984
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,760
with you guys because they would
recommend something do all this work and

985
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,520
then you guys would do what you needed
to do

986
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,520
» and that could happen again this year
>> it would happen again this year

987
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,080
» it will happen again
>> that's why I said why waste the time

988
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,640
just
>> I'm writing

989
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,719
Chairman [clears throat] Chairman Shay.
>> Nay.

990
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,960
» Uh, Supervisor Jones.
>> Hi.

991
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:45,040
» Supervisor Miller.
>> I.

992
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,040
» Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi.

993
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,440
» Hi.
>> So,

994
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:57,840
that means this board's going to be the
compensation board

995
01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:01,760
» and we're going to do our homework and
we're going to show our work.

996
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:07,800
» I like what you said, Andy.
Sheriff's

997
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:07,800
fine. I I think that's important.

998
01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:18,800
» Okay. We need a discussion decision on
appointment to fill vacancy on civil

999
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:23,600
service commission.
>> Okay. With the passing of Frank Package

1000
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:32,400
checkek, um we have an opening on the
civil service commission and I know that

1001
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:38,800
the requirements according to state code
require um have have specific

1002
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:44,640
requirements on party affiliation and
who appoints them. And Josh Goutah is

1003
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:51,199
currently on the Civil Service
Commission and he was appointed by the

1004
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:58,800
Attorney's Office and he is a Republican
and his term ends August 15, 2027.

1005
01:21:55,440 --> 01:22:06,639
Kim Preston um is a Democrat that the
board appointed

1006
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:12,960
and his term ends August 1531.
um when they actually had sitting down

1007
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:18,000
for the civil service testing that was
done in May,

1008
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:23,600
um
John Dalton, who was previously on the

1009
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:28,239
board on the commission, stepped up to
help with that testing because the

1010
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:34,400
others were not available.
And John has expressed interest in

1011
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:39,760
remaining being returned to this board.
And with the vacancy, I would make the

1012
01:22:36,639 --> 01:22:46,719
motion to appoint John Dalton to fill
the term that is left or fill the

1013
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:50,000
vacancy on the Civil Service Commission.
Are you in agreement with that, Andy?

1014
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:54,000
» Yes. And I've spoken with John and he's
willing to step up and help us. So,

1015
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,639
» is that [clears throat] your
appointment, Andy, or the board?

1016
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:58,800
» The boards. I don't have an appointment.
It's one for county attorney, two for

1017
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,639
board.
>> The board.

1018
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:05,520
» Okay.
Um,

1019
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:09,040
is he
a Republican?

1020
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:13,520
» He's independent. So, we would have one
of each party in the house. So,

1021
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:16,560
» I thought you said those other two were
Democrats.

1022
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:20,480
» No, Josh is a Republican.
>> Oh, okay.

1023
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:23,360
» And Kim did show up. Kim Preston did
show up. Oh, good. May. Okay.

1024
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,800
» But of course, that was his first
experience. And he I'm glad John helped

1025
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:34,560
us out because, you know, John's been
doing it for many years. So,

1026
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:39,040
» got a motion by Miller to appoint John
Dalton to the Civil Service Commission.

1027
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:45,360
I need a second.
>> I'll second that. [clears throat]

1028
01:23:42,639 --> 01:23:49,840
» All in favor signify by saying I
>> I.

1029
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:52,159
» Those opposed.
>> John will be good.

1030
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:57,520
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Next up, Jasmine Elmore, director

1031
01:23:55,440 --> 01:24:03,199
of human resources. discussion in our
decision to approve and authorize the

1032
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:07,760
board to sign the contract with WIQ
Spark for the employee wellness

1033
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:13,760
provider.
>> Um,

1034
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:19,360
as a a note from my office, uh, we I did
review the contract and we've reached

1035
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:25,440
out to Wix Spark with some concerns and
those have not been resolved yet. So,

1036
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:31,360
I'm working with the um their legal
team. I will be working with their legal

1037
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:36,320
team to get um some of issues resolved.
>> So, we should table it today.

1038
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:41,440
» I I would request that. I'm because I
didn't really get to dig into it until

1039
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:44,719
um Tuesday last week. I am a little
behind on this one. So, I I would

1040
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:48,800
request that we table it so that we can
get some on those issues fall. there

1041
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:56,400
there seem to be some inconsistencies
between um there's there are there are

1042
01:24:52,560 --> 01:25:02,080
kind of two contracts and the like price
sheet and there are some inconsistencies

1043
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:04,719
among all three of those things
I I don't think that we should be

1044
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:09,520
signing a contract that has that
inconsistencies

1045
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:18,159
and I I believe that was they were
inconsistent as given to us from the

1046
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:23,120
» question um I reviewed a little bit of
Can

1047
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,600
can you help me or do you with where
where's the cost?

1048
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:30,080
» So
>> cost were 17,000 and I could only find

1049
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:35,199
like nine in the contract. I mean what's
going on with that

1050
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:38,560
or did I miss something?
>> That might be more of a Jasmine

1051
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:45,280
question. Um, I know that there's a
separate like cost sheet which was um

1052
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:52,480
like the I think the order form is how
it's laid out with some of the costs in

1053
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:58,159
it. Um, and then they did update the
compensation part. It's on the the first

1054
01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:04,159
page of the contract um near the bottom.
Uh they updated that uh to show the

1055
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:07,840
correct fees I believe.
>> Correct. what

1056
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:13,120
» the correct TVs. Um, which I don't have
the newest one in front of me. My laptop

1057
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:16,560
died, so I don't
I have the old contract with my notes on

1058
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,719
it, but not the the new version that we
got sent,

1059
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,000
» but we're going to put it off till next
week.

1060
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:29,199
» I would request that we do. I I'm hoping
that um early this week I'll be able to

1061
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:33,920
get the the things that I needed resolve
resolved with them. Um there are a few

1062
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:38,560
questions that I had because like I said
there are some inconsistencies

1063
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:43,920
um that are not clear. I I'm assuming
they have a form contract and they for

1064
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:47,840
everybody and they don't generally have
um questions on it and so I think that

1065
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:50,080
it'll take a little bit of time to get
this ironed out.

1066
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:54,719
» Okay.
>> I I apologize uh for for any delay that

1067
01:26:52,719 --> 01:27:00,880
I have caused on this one.
>> Any other questions?

1068
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:04,800
Um, no. I think that didn't I see 9,000
in here somewhere soon.

1069
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:09,679
» 9,900.
>> It's seven. It's 17. I mean, it was

1070
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:13,280
6,000 last week. It's [snorts] 9,000
this week. I mean, I

1071
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:18,719
» So, so what you're what you're actually
seeing, sorry. Um what you're actually

1072
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:23,199
seeing is um we got we got some original
numbers for the um for the on-site

1073
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:29,120
screenings which would have been the 52
to 50 to 52 um per participant. So they

1074
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:32,960
overshot and gave us the highest number
in case we wanted to have some of the

1075
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:39,040
on-site screening. So, because we're
going to um essentially review um and go

1076
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:43,280
through I I mean, if somebody wants to
go, you know, to the to their provider

1077
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:48,320
as opposed to us having the screenings
here on site, um that's causing the

1078
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:52,960
difference in the cost. Um we also
quoted them the approximate number of

1079
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:57,600
people who were on the plan. Now, um so
that brought down the cost as well. Um

1080
01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:03,520
originally we I think they used a number
of like 500 participants which would

1081
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:08,080
have been I think a $130. Um but when
you drop that number down um it

1082
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:12,400
increases their number per participant
to like $160. So that's why you're

1083
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:16,480
seeing the difference in the discrepancy
between what was originally quoted for

1084
01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:21,600
like the 17,000. and they wanted to give
us the highest possible number uh just

1085
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:27,120
in case depending on what we chose as a
county um to what's closer to what's

1086
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:32,960
more realistically uh what we can take.
>> Can you spell that out for us next week

1087
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:34,400
so we can understand that a little
better?

1088
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:40,639
» Sure.
>> All right. The the the one just real

1089
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:50,199
quick I I really can't follow any of
this. the the plan the three-year plan

1090
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:50,199
as uh Spark quoted us was 17,868.

1091
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:59,679
A one-year cost is now from them 9,948.
So if one would just do the math and

1092
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:03,679
figure that's a three, you're going to
do that for three years, right? That's

1093
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:10,320
what they quoted here. That takes it to
30,000. That's that's $13,000 more than

1094
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:14,400
what they quoted here. I don't get it.
dependent on the services that we decide

1095
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:20,239
to utilize.
>> I'm a little confused with some of it. I

1096
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:25,360
know that there's the the per member
rate is the $160 per member per month.

1097
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,800
And so I think that was the estimated
$4,600.

1098
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:34,080
I know that there's an imple
implementation fee for $1,500. And I

1099
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:38,480
understand that that's a onetime fee.
>> Yes.

1100
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:43,040
» So those two would be
part of it. That's $6,100.

1101
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:46,800
And then from what I understand from
Jasmine,

1102
01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:54,639
there is another fee that they charge
per person per or for um the individual

1103
01:29:51,440 --> 01:30:00,080
employees to have their um workups,
their blood work done at the courthouse.

1104
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:05,679
It was my understanding we weren't going
to do that for most people because with

1105
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:09,120
our prior program we you know most
people went to their doctor got their

1106
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:14,480
screening at their doctor's office and
then that is wrapped up into their like

1107
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:20,080
annual physical fee and so
I don't see that

1108
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:23,360
on this sheet anywhere and so that I
think is leading to some of the

1109
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:27,120
confusion.
>> Do we have time this week?

1110
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,840
» Well, I'm sorry. Is that right?
>> You will have time this week.

1111
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:31,199
» Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
>> Okay.

1112
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:35,679
» And I I think
>> then get it spelled out for us a little

1113
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:40,639
clearer for us if you would.
>> All right. Thank you. Next up, committee

1114
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:48,280
appointments. Jeff,
>> uh I have not, but I was at the uh uh

1115
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:48,280
days yesterday.

1116
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:51,480
Appreciated

1117
01:30:56,480 --> 01:31:08,520
had some appointments with uh
unleash council bluffs

1118
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:08,520
the uh loss hills

1119
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:17,000
um
I was gone for the weekend so that was

1120
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,000
it

1121
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:28,320
» I attended the east pot soil and water
tour bus tour and it was

1122
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:34,000
it was very informative and eye opening.
I enjoyed it very much. Um I had

1123
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:41,280
pancakes at Botna Bend on Saturday
morning and I got a phone call at 4:00

1124
01:31:38,639 --> 01:31:47,280
on Friday afternoon to let us know that
our occupational health

1125
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:52,560
» provider had
quit providing effective immediately.

1126
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:57,320
And that's really concerning and I'm
sure it'll be an agenda item for next

1127
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,320
week.

1128
01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:08,159
» Okay. Okay. We're going to go into
some study sessions here.

1129
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:12,280
Um,
we take a break for a minute.

1130
01:32:16,123 --> 01:32:18,143
[clears throat]

1131
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:20,440
a portionment of lime kiln per road
improvement policy. Andy,

1132
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,440
» yes. So,

1133
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:29,920
» in the five-year program, we've had the
last this fiscal year, we have

1134
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:33,520
identified reconfiguring limekilm as it
ties into Old Lincoln Highway, and

1135
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:38,080
there's a safety concern there. We've
had crashes there and years ago,

1136
01:38:36,639 --> 01:38:44,239
residents came to the county and said,
"We want Limekil seal coated." And the

1137
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:49,040
county said, "We can't seal coat it
because this intersection is unsafe. We

1138
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:54,560
need to get the tie in to Old Lincoln
Highway reconfigured. Currently, it ties

1139
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:59,199
in at a a gnarly Y and we're going to
the hope was to reconfigure it to tee

1140
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:04,719
into Old Lincoln Highway. Um and then we
can seal code limekill. We have met with

1141
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:09,760
land owners. John met with land owners.
I've met with land owners. We finally

1142
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:15,040
are in agreement with the land owners to
um acquire a little bit of two parcels

1143
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:20,320
and
tie in lime retie in Limekill into Old

1144
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:25,600
Lincoln Highway so it's safer, better
sight distance. Um that paperwork has

1145
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:31,520
started. We haven't actually acquired
the land yet, but we're in we've had

1146
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:37,119
discussions and we're in agreement
um with the land owners. So the next

1147
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:42,400
step is if we want to seal coat lime
kill road next calendar year. So

1148
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:48,719
calendar 2027
um most likely it'll be paid for out of

1149
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:53,920
my fiscal 28 not fiscal 27 but calendar
year 27.

1150
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:58,239
Um we need to get this petition to the
residents and I need to get signatures

1151
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:03,760
back from the residents by October 1st
according to county code or sorry state

1152
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:08,239
code and county um policy.
In order for a seal code petition to be

1153
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:11,920
approved for the next year, it needs to
be signed by October 1st, the prior

1154
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:16,719
year.
So, I'm I should have had my ducks in a

1155
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:21,760
little bit better. Um, in order to seal
coat lime kiln in calendar year 2027,

1156
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:26,639
we need to get signatures by the
residents by October 1st of this year.

1157
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:35,119
So, that gives us three weeks basically.
So, I wanted to bring the draft um

1158
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:41,040
petition to you all so that we are in
agreement before I push that out to the

1159
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:46,080
the residents and it should be in the
your packets. But basically,

1160
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:53,840
I know you should have brought handouts,
but I want your thoughts on three items.

1161
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:59,440
one, what kind of interest rate should
we set for this petition? Two, how costs

1162
01:40:57,679 --> 01:41:06,960
should be assessed per parcel? And
three, is my parcel map accurate? Um, I

1163
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:12,480
think in past petitions, parcels were
included or excluded, and I want to make

1164
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:15,199
sure we're all on the same page so that
when it gets pushed out to the public,

1165
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:19,119
there aren't residents that say, "Hey,
my parcel is included and it shouldn't

1166
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:24,159
be." Or vice versa. If you come off the
road and your access is from that road,

1167
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:28,960
you're on the petition.
>> So, that is how I proceeded with that.

1168
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:32,960
If you have a driveway on Limekill or if
you own a pri if you have access through

1169
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:38,719
a private driveway, uh, which would be
Imperial Lane, um, then I include an

1170
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:45,760
Imperial Lane as well.
The code I believe says that a half mile

1171
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:51,280
on either side of the road. Anybody who
owns property, if it's a farm and

1172
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:55,760
doesn't have
a an entrance

1173
01:41:53,440 --> 01:42:01,360
off of Limekill on that farm is still
part of

1174
01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:04,760
the petition. Correct. You don't have to
have a driveway.

1175
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:14,159
Correct. And it's
It's your it's the resident's

1176
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:19,520
responsibility to get that petition
signed, not yours. Correct. Yeah. I will

1177
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:22,800
not be out there doornocking. It's the
residents will run with the petition and

1178
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:27,360
if they get signatures, I just want to
make sure that we are of the same

1179
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:31,440
accord. Um if the residents get the
signatures, so it's not on me, it's not

1180
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:36,960
on you as a board to go get the
signatures. It is on the residents along

1181
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:42,560
Lime. Um, I've identified so and going
to the code that Tim referenced, it's

1182
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:48,000
state code section 311.2.
Um, you can't include a parcel. I'll

1183
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:52,239
just read it. Any such secondary road
assessment district shall be not more

1184
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:57,119
than one half mile wide on either side
of the road or roads to be improved by

1185
01:42:54,159 --> 01:43:04,560
said district. So up to a half mile,
can't go past that. Um,

1186
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:07,920
so I excluded parcels on Hillsboro
North. Um, because that's a separate

1187
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:13,800
road.
>> Did you get that map, please?

1188
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,800
» Matthew

1189
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,080
weird.
>> So Stevie is going to put it up on the

1190
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:22,480
screen as well.
>> I'm gonna give it a shot.

1191
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:26,480
» That would be helpful. We're all the
same thing.

1192
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:30,880
» I I see the list of names, but I don't
see the map.

1193
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:33,760
Maybe as I got done two blank pages
while

1194
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:38,800
» that's what I said. It is loading weird
and I had struggled with it all weekend.

1195
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:44,320
» So I I finally took the board's advice
and worked with GIS. So GIS provided a

1196
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:51,040
really good map and that's what this uh
so Steve is going to be pulling up a

1197
01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:55,400
parcel map. It follows L road.
That's why I have three blank spaces.

1198
01:43:56,159 --> 01:44:02,080
» Lined up beautifully.
>> We have it sufficient.

1199
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:08,800
» Stretch it as big as you can.
>> Joslyn Avenue

1200
01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:13,360
29's over here. Um, all these Shelberg
parcels for Midwest products have a

1201
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:16,800
driveway right here. None of these
parcels

1202
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:25,280
go to Joslin and they're within the half
mile. So that's why I included them.

1203
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:28,400
» And he also said he would participate.
>> I have not talked with her.

1204
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:31,520
» I said I did.
>> And they're going to run their rock

1205
01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:37,119
trucks down.
>> No, we passed an ordinance

1206
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,760
for Limekill that there can be no rock
trucks up and down there.

1207
01:44:39,557 --> 01:44:42,960
» [clears throat]
>> So, as far as I'm concerned, that

1208
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:47,119
ordinance should continue to stay in
effect. We should not have rock trucks.

1209
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:51,520
» I think we passed it. Was it four or
five years ago, Tim? I

1210
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:56,880
» I don't recall that. I mean,
>> I remember we, you know, I think John

1211
01:44:54,800 --> 01:45:00,880
put something up there says no rock
trucks. And the guy says, "Well, I'm not

1212
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,520
hauling rock. I'm hauling dirt. It's a
dirt truck."

1213
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:06,719
» Yeah. Well,
>> so I don't remember. may be something we

1214
01:45:05,119 --> 01:45:13,040
need to look into because I don't
remember if the ordinance referenced at

1215
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:17,520
the road or gravel road
but

1216
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:22,560
» we will have time to go that
>> so I mentioned Imperial Lane I'll just

1217
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:28,239
go down so we're on sheet two of your
handout Imperial Lane is a private road

1218
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:34,320
the city or the county does not maintain
Imperial Road and therefore

1219
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:39,600
that is why I included parcel of wat
they have to use a private driveway. I

1220
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:45,199
did not include a Hillsboro Lane North
um parcels on that because

1221
01:45:42,719 --> 01:45:49,920
it is a public county maintain road.
Yes, it ties into Lfield and that's the

1222
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:54,000
only way out. Um but
I didn't think that these people should

1223
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:58,440
be on the hook for improving a road that
they that their house doesn't abide.

1224
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:04,800
If the board would like me to include
those, I can.

1225
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:08,080
But I excluded those because it's a
public and

1226
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:12,320
it's not
>> I think that's the right thing because I

1227
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:16,400
think they want to bring a petition and
you talked about it not being 22 foot

1228
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:23,119
wide.
>> So we line is a fairly easy seal coat

1229
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:28,800
process. Basically um toughen up the
soil and then add seal coat on top.

1230
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:35,600
Hillsboro, we will have to widen the
road, um add ditches. It'll be a much

1231
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:40,920
more expensive process and so Hillsboro
residents are excluded because they're

1232
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,920
not getting direct benefit.

1233
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:49,760
So with that and like this parcel right
here, they have a driveway over here. So

1234
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:53,239
I excluded them and you can scroll down
to the last sheet.

1235
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:04,880
There's really nothing else from us,
Andy.

1236
01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:09,840
» So, I want a rough idea of or your
blessing to say, is this parcel map

1237
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:16,000
sufficient? Is there any glaring, hey,
you forgot to include this piece?

1238
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:20,560
Andy added, and again, I would say this
piece is owned by one of these two

1239
01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:24,719
property owners and not one of these.
So, I thought this piece

1240
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:28,639
comes off. Yeah.
>> So, anywhere you look, I think I

1241
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:34,239
excluded this piece because they have a
driveway on Hillsboro Lane North. So,

1242
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:38,880
» I did not include everybody within the
half mile. State code says you can

1243
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:42,239
include everybody within a half a mile.
Um,

1244
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:45,920
so
>> can you bring that map down to the

1245
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:48,320
entrance of the highway?
>> Yeah, it's a good call.

1246
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:52,239
» Do you show that?
>> So, that I did not show that actual

1247
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:57,679
reconfiguration. We're straightening
this S-curve out and then tying in

1248
01:47:55,040 --> 01:48:04,239
roughly right here.
So, we're acquiring

1249
01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:08,800
um some of her parcel and her parcel.
>> And how are we paying for that?

1250
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:12,960
» That'll come out of secondary roads. Um
that's in the five-year program or in

1251
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:18,159
this fiscal year of the five-year
program is to acquire right away and

1252
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:21,520
then do some regrading. It's pretty
steep through here. There's some large

1253
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:25,920
embankments that we're going to cut down
to allow for better sight distance these

1254
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:30,880
driveways to for those residents to get
on limekilm.

1255
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:37,840
» There is a couple sharp curves there and
buses during the winter have slid off

1256
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:42,719
into ditches with children in them and
it's just it's always a mess there.

1257
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:48,000
» What are you going to do with your right
away?

1258
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:51,920
So are you saying on this piece we get
>> the

1259
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:57,199
I would leave that up to the board but
one thought is we sell it to this

1260
01:48:55,040 --> 01:49:03,040
partial owner this partial owner we
allow this partial owner too

1261
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:06,080
» even even Mike Wick or uh Sandberg
>> yeah am I allowed to say names is that

1262
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:10,000
okay
>> yeah that's all I'm

1263
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:17,760
» so we would either sell it to the
sandbergs sell it to the let Joan Elman

1264
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:23,280
maintain ownership or the county could
retain ownership of it. I think it is

1265
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:30,840
worthwhile to sell to
probably Sandberg's or to to

1266
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:30,840
» if we do offer it for sale to

1267
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:40,000
Sandbergs. Do we ask Miss Olman
if she's okay with that?

1268
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:42,239
» I think we have to put it up for like
public hearing.

1269
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:45,840
» Okay. if we're going to sell the
property.

1270
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:48,800
» I I can't off top my head, but I I feel
like

1271
01:49:46,639 --> 01:49:50,880
» I say we get the project going first,
then worry about that.

1272
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,119
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think that's a secondary issue.

1273
01:49:52,639 --> 01:49:57,440
So,
>> I think it would be wise for the county

1274
01:49:54,639 --> 01:50:00,800
to not maintain that right of way if
you're not using it for road anymore

1275
01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:05,840
because we've run into that problem a
few times where the county has some

1276
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:11,440
weird right ofway parcels that we have
to maintain and we don't need them or

1277
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:14,480
want them.
Yes,

1278
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:18,880
I should have started this conversation
by saying if we don't get 75% of the

1279
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:23,520
signatures, this is is all kind of a
muga point until next year anyways, but

1280
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:25,920
I think it's worth all us all being on
the same page if we do get the

1281
01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:30,800
signatures.
>> Andy, if you you're still going to do

1282
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:35,199
the end piece no matter what.
>> Correct. This is happening regardless of

1283
01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:41,040
seal code.
>> Is it going to tee up with Holly Lane?

1284
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:47,440
So, we initially wanted it to. It will
not um we would have the house it's we'd

1285
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:52,400
have to move the house. Oh,
>> so we would were not able to get it to

1286
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:56,320
to we wanted it to, but no, we're not
able to.

1287
01:50:54,159 --> 01:51:00,639
» My sixth grade teacher.
>> So, that was question one. Is there And

1288
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:04,560
again, we don't have to decide. This is
a study session. You don't have to

1289
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:08,880
decide completely today, but I'd like to
push this out to the requesting

1290
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:11,760
residents.
So, if there's any parcels that you're

1291
01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:17,600
like, hey, why isn't this added or can
we add this? Let me know. The second

1292
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:22,080
question is on the interest rate that we
should set. So, for the last seal code

1293
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:26,400
petition that was approved, we set a 0%
interest rate. Um, according to state

1294
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:30,800
code, I think we can set up to a nine or
14%.

1295
01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:34,960
I'm fine with any. I think it either
makes sense to do zero or what we could

1296
01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:42,080
get in the market. And so Steve and I
talked and that's about 4% is what the

1297
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:47,440
county borrows money at. Sorry. So if we
want to get a flat return for our money,

1298
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:52,480
I'd say we do a 4% interest rate um
amortized over the the 10-year period.

1299
01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:54,800
But does the board have a preference?
The last one we did was zero. So maybe

1300
01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:00,480
it makes sense that
>> I think for the taxpayers, I think it

1301
01:51:56,719 --> 01:52:04,199
ought to be 4%. They really do.
I don't think the zero's

1302
01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:11,679
» I think it's better for
>> the reason I I don't know why why the

1303
01:52:09,679 --> 01:52:17,360
nobody was on that board but me and you
Brian that made that call. Well, Jeff

1304
01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:23,920
and Susan came in at the very last part
of it. That that's the only one we've

1305
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:31,480
ever done and that was a total disaster
from the beginning to the end.

1306
01:52:27,599 --> 01:52:31,480
And um

1307
01:52:32,639 --> 01:52:39,199
» what's the cost of a project roughly?
I'm sorry.

1308
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:44,080
» So it is a 7030 split. The total cost
upfront cost $900,000. I would have to

1309
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:47,280
come at it. Secondary roads would pay
the upfront cost and then secondary

1310
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:53,199
roads would get reimbursed over a
10-year period 70% of that. So overall

1311
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:59,320
the county would be on the hook 100
minus 70. So, we'd be on hook 30%. Which

1312
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,320
is roughly $270,000.

1313
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,800
» Well, you're on the hook for
>> We're on the hook for 9

1314
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,639
» 900,000
>> up front.

1315
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,040
» Up front.
>> Correct.

1316
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:11,119
» But do you have a ring leader that's
going to run this petition?

1317
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:15,199
» So, I've been talking to the Sandbergs
and yeah, give it to them. They run with

1318
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:19,760
it. And then
>> we got we got two two others that will

1319
01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:24,000
take it on too. So, whatever we got to
do. Um,

1320
01:53:22,239 --> 01:53:31,960
and you know, we've talked about
improving roads for homes and stuff, and

1321
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,960
there's several along there.

1322
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:42,560
I've heard up to 16 that could possibly
go in over time.

1323
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:48,639
» Yeah, I think that there's opportunity
with some of these larger parcels, but I

1324
01:53:46,239 --> 01:53:51,599
have not discussion. That's up to the
residents.

1325
01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:59,760
So, so
everybody okay? I'm going to include 4%

1326
01:53:56,719 --> 01:54:04,960
on the the document I give to the
residents. And again, if they voted

1327
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:10,159
down, that's their prerogative. Um, and
then the last question is, how do we

1328
01:54:06,639 --> 01:54:15,360
want to assess the increase to their
taxes? So, they're on the hook for 70%

1329
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:18,880
of the increase. Um, there's basically
three options that I laid out. Do we do

1330
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:24,880
it proportionally based off of property
value? So say this person's property

1331
01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:28,400
value is $700,000. So they'd pay a
higher

1332
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:34,560
overall cost. And say this person's
property is $1,000 assessed value. So

1333
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:39,920
they'd pay pennies extra a year in their
property tax. Um that's one option.

1334
01:54:37,599 --> 01:54:46,000
Another option is we divide the cost
evenly amongst all residents. So, if

1335
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:50,560
they're on the hook for $700,000,
then we'd subdivide it equally. Each

1336
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:56,320
parcel would pay the exact same amount.
Um, I think that there's a handful of

1337
01:54:53,599 --> 01:55:00,880
parcels that are only $200 assessed
value. I think that one's one of them.

1338
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:08,239
And then there's one on the first sheet.
But if we assess it evenly across

1339
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:11,760
everybody, I think that that really
inhibits some of the residents from

1340
01:55:09,679 --> 01:55:18,320
wanting to sign off. So, say their
assessed value is $200, but they're on

1341
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:21,840
the hook for a $700 a year increase,
they

1342
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:26,800
would almost immediately say no.
Whereas, if it's a $200 value, but

1343
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:30,159
they're assessed proportionally. They'd
be on the hook for a buck or two

1344
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:35,840
increase a year. Um,
>> I'd say we do it proportionately.

1345
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:38,800
» Is that a buildable lot?
>> I don't think it is, Tim.

1346
01:55:37,599 --> 01:55:42,960
» I don't know.
>> I don't. It needs to be at least two

1347
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:48,159
acres. So, I don't believe so. Let's
Stevie, can you scroll? Oh, 11. It's

1348
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:54,639
only one acre. So, no, it's not
buildable, but I believe they own Yeah,

1349
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:59,360
they can't. That can't That's not even
buildable.

1350
01:55:55,760 --> 01:56:07,360
» Yeah, they could share a well,
which [clears throat] turns into a mess.

1351
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:13,360
Well, I don't think it's fair
that if somebody

1352
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:18,719
is a millionaire and has a $700,000
house,

1353
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:22,719
um,
pays

1354
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:27,440
I don't know, let's just call it $500 a
year.

1355
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:34,239
And the next door neighbor has a
$150,000 house

1356
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:39,679
and he only pays
$100 a year. They're both getting the

1357
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:43,840
same benefit
regardless of this the cost of their

1358
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:50,159
home or how much money they make or how
much money they have. I think when the

1359
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:53,199
board we we this
it's important for Annie to have that

1360
01:56:51,679 --> 01:56:56,000
information on which way the board wants
to go.

1361
01:56:56,080 --> 01:57:03,800
whether these people even sign a
petition, but um I don't

1362
01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:12,159
uh in my opinion, property tax is the
worst tax there is because it's very

1363
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:16,320
unfair for everybody.
U you just you pay based on the on the

1364
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:21,280
value of your home, not for the services
you get, but the value of your home

1365
01:57:18,239 --> 01:57:24,960
because we all get the same service.
somebody lives in a more expensive

1366
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:31,440
house, you just pay more for it. Is that
fair?

1367
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:36,480
So, if we we put them
there's I don't know how many lots there

1368
01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:41,520
are, how many parcels, but if if it cost
uh let's see, it's 30%. I don't have

1369
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:47,880
that in front of me. What is it? 560,000
that the residents have to pay. That was

1370
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,880
darn close here.

1371
01:57:51,599 --> 01:57:58,719
» I didn't scroll down.
>> We have a mixture, don't we? We've got

1372
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:02,560
some corporate land, we've got some
farmland, and we got some residential

1373
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:06,000
land.
>> Correct. And so the the third

1374
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:14,800
alternative is we assess it depending on
the type of property that is there. And

1375
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:19,760
that could get subjective or
>> it is subjective. So

1376
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:27,199
» there's not a lot of farmland back
there. It it is on paper, but not many

1377
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:35,520
people farm back in there. I think we do
it proportionately because

1378
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:41,840
» it truly for someone to pay the same as
someone who's got a $700,000 house as a

1379
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:48,639
$150,000 house. I think that's unfair,
too. I really do. I think the only way

1380
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:58,239
to get these petitions through is to do
it proportionately and let let that road

1381
01:58:54,080 --> 01:59:04,560
uh come to f fruition. It needs to there
would be possibly up to 16 more homes

1382
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:08,000
that road
that there's people that are you can't

1383
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:12,880
you can't base
>> I'm not that uh you're [clears throat]

1384
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:15,280
it's part of your opinion. I mean,
whatever this board is going to put

1385
01:59:14,159 --> 01:59:20,639
together, I mean, it needs to be
something that can withstand the next

1386
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:25,599
project and the next project and the
next board and

1387
01:59:22,159 --> 01:59:30,000
» which we done proportionately last time,
>> which nobody agreed to.

1388
01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:34,480
» I
I thought it was the way to go.

1389
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:38,880
» I I don't think any way you do it is
going to be fair because it's not

1390
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:43,679
there's no way to be completely fair on
something like this. Um, I think there

1391
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:49,599
there are ways that are slightly more
equitable than others. Um, I think all

1392
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:56,320
three of the the methods that Annie's
presented have some matter of equity in

1393
01:59:53,280 --> 02:00:00,000
them. So,
it's up to the board, but I don't think

1394
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:05,679
I don't think anybody's going to say
it's fair for any of them. I mean, I you

1395
02:00:03,599 --> 02:00:09,840
can't we don't really have a great
method to get it exactly truly fair for

1396
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:16,960
these people.
I want the project to go through. So my

1397
02:00:12,239 --> 02:00:20,159
my votes proportionate and 0%.
>> Proportionate. Explain what you mean by

1398
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:25,440
that.
>> The proportionate taxation of the person

1399
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:31,119
» based on assessed value. Yes.
>> Yeah. And Andy's got a column on here.

1400
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:37,360
» So yeah, proportionally would be against
the 2026 assess value.

1401
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:42,320
» So the Kemps their assessed value it's
253,000.

1402
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:46,239
at a 4%
interest rate over a 10-year

1403
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:51,119
amortization, they'd have an additional
976,000,

1404
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:54,239
sorry, $976 added to their property tax
bill

1405
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:57,920
» per year.
>> Per year.

1406
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:02,400
You need to scroll down. Would you
scroll down on that just a little bit

1407
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:08,239
for me and find uh
a couple of couple of parcels where it's

1408
02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:13,840
land only?
If you look at the property tax,

1409
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:20,480
» yeah, like this one, 12 acres assessed
at $15,000.

1410
02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:23,360
If we did it um based off of
what if we did it based off of just

1411
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:26,719
their acres.
>> What's the name? What's the name

1412
02:01:24,993 --> 02:01:30,320
[clears throat] on that?
>> Patricia D.

1413
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:35,840
» I don't care about that one.
>> Uh

1414
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:40,719
we could do Carl. They have 36 acres.
>> Duplicate names. Is there one with

1415
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:44,960
duplicate names?
>> Joplain's on here. David. Okay. What

1416
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:48,480
does he got?
>> I mean, he has some that are four

1417
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:53,679
tankers for $4,000.
>> So, he's right up against

1418
02:01:52,159 --> 02:02:00,560
another one.
>> Okay. So, if he would he would he be

1419
02:01:57,199 --> 02:02:01,760
paying on both of those parcels?
>> Yes.

1420
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:06,080
» Yeah. So,
>> so does he get two votes? So he would

1421
02:02:03,599 --> 02:02:09,280
get two votes is how I would propose it
to the board.

1422
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:13,280
» Um and just so everybody's aware,
there's a hundred parcels that I've

1423
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:17,760
identified. So it's fairly easy.
>> So he would sign the petition twice,

1424
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:20,880
three times, four times.
>> And he actually owns, I think, seven

1425
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:24,320
total parcels.
>> And then he's got a sister there, too.

1426
02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:29,320
And I can't remember her name.
>> Um that means he'll carry the vote all

1427
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:29,320
by himself.

1428
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:35,440
» He'll carry the vote all by himself.
He'll make this determination for us.

1429
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:38,639
» He could easily. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1430
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:44,480
» Cuz how many do we need? 75%.
>> So the Yep. The county's um Yeah.

1431
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:49,000
minimum of 75%
sign the petition for it to get

1432
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:49,000
approved.

1433
02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:57,679
So I think one of the last petitions we
only had just over 50% and so those have

1434
02:02:54,320 --> 02:03:00,679
been revised to a 75% threshold to get
approved.

1435
02:03:02,239 --> 02:03:07,560
I'm comfortable. I would recommend
proportionally.

1436
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:15,719
» There's no way to be equitable, but
>> I'm with you. I think that's the way to

1437
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:15,719
go for us.

1438
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:23,440
» And the other option is I provide
basically this whole thing to to the

1439
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:26,960
petitioners and then they decide evenly
based off of acreage or proportionally.

1440
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:30,080
But
>> Tim Tim, [clears throat] you said the

1441
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:35,520
last time this was this happened, it was
a disaster.

1442
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:38,480
This was before Susan and I were what
made it a disaster. Can you explain a

1443
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:42,960
little bit?
>> You want me to go? We really don't have

1444
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:47,679
time to go back into that.
>> A lot of issues.

1445
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:50,400
» There was It was It was terrible.
>> Primary.

1446
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:53,520
» People were splitting land to get more
votes.

1447
02:03:51,199 --> 02:03:59,840
» I think that we've developed a little
simpler process. Um I think part of the

1448
02:03:56,719 --> 02:04:04,400
problem was our threshold was lower so
that there was a lot more discourse

1449
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:09,280
amongst the land owners. Putting the
threshold up at 75%

1450
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:13,679
gets you a lot more buy in from the
individuals who are going to be

1451
02:04:10,159 --> 02:04:17,119
involved. So I think that helped. Um
I I think that there were there were

1452
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:21,599
lots of inconsistencies in the process
because we didn't really have a laid out

1453
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:26,159
process and now we do. So I think it
should be a little smoother. Yeah,

1454
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:29,679
» the petitioner was a problem. The
petitioner wanted to decide what parcels

1455
02:04:28,159 --> 02:04:32,000
were in and which ones were out.
>> Yeah,

1456
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:34,320
» it was it was just there was nothing.
>> No, they're either all in or they're all

1457
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:37,679
out.
>> It was just there's nothing right about

1458
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:42,960
any of it.
>> You got a good basis to start with.

1459
02:04:40,719 --> 02:04:45,920
» We don't have a basis. S we're working
on the basis. Unfortunately,

1460
02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:51,840
» I thought you were talking about the
previous Let's go. I'm saying Andy has

1461
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:57,520
learned from that and what he's
presenting here kind of speaks to all of

1462
02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:04,400
those concerns.
>> Do we need to determine the

1463
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:08,639
taxation part of it before
the petition goes to the people?

1464
02:05:06,719 --> 02:05:12,000
» That's what he's got up there in the
right hand column. talked to the

1465
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:17,360
treasures department and they said they
didn't need anything until

1466
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:22,080
it's we get board approval to move
forward with it. So that would be after

1467
02:05:19,679 --> 02:05:25,679
we get signatures, I come to the board
and say, "Hey, we got 80% by hand. Is

1468
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:29,760
the board comfortable moving forward
with that?" And then at that time, the

1469
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:33,360
board would vote yes, we're interested.
>> We should give them full disclosure

1470
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:38,080
before they vote, though.
>> I think it would be hard to give them.

1471
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:42,320
» You don't have this, do you?
>> They they need a number. Like if I were

1472
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:44,560
» right here, isn't that on there?
>> Yeah.

1473
02:05:43,199 --> 02:05:49,520
» I I would want to know what
>> I've got that sheet right here.

1474
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:52,080
» Yeah. It puts it proportionately.
>> So I would hand

1475
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:55,080
» or zero.
>> Yeah.

1476
02:05:55,360 --> 02:06:02,480
» I mean it has to be on there when they
we sign. They don't want to sign not

1477
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:04,800
knowing what they're going to pay every
year.

1478
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:10,239
» We're going to make people mad no matter
what. My vote is proportionate 0%.

1479
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:14,400
» I'm with you Keith.
>> I'll go along with that.

1480
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:17,400
Sounds good. Mr. Wman, what do you
think?

1481
02:06:18,159 --> 02:06:26,560
We're not going to make people happy no
matter what. And it may not pass.

1482
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:31,040
» Well, the the only thing I would I would
say

1483
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:37,199
is that
Andy is going to spend,

1484
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:42,520
let's just call it a million dollars,
and it's going to take him 10 years to

1485
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:42,520
get paid back.

1486
02:06:42,719 --> 02:06:48,400
And
that

1487
02:06:46,719 --> 02:06:54,079
100
just conversationwise at $100,000 a

1488
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:59,199
year.
Uh 4%

1489
02:06:56,159 --> 02:07:05,440
» 4,000 a year.
>> I think that uh

1490
02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:10,960
we're going to which we have to we have
to front the money.

1491
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:15,119
We should we probably should have some
sort of a return,

1492
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:21,520
» right? But it's $4,000 a year. We want
to do the project anyway. It may hinge

1493
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:25,520
on the project for being voted upon and
it's economic development if we get 16

1494
02:07:23,599 --> 02:07:30,719
more houses on this.
>> Well, the residents want to do the road

1495
02:07:29,679 --> 02:07:34,320
some.
>> Yeah, it may be not enough.

1496
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:38,320
» We may not get 75.
>> We may not get it. the the only thing

1497
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:42,480
that I shouldn't say the only thing
because

1498
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:48,960
um I think the major thing that needs to
happen here is we need to straighten the

1499
02:07:44,639 --> 02:07:54,000
road. If we straighten the road,
I'm good with that. Whether it gets seal

1500
02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:58,800
coated or it doesn't, I don't care. But
they care that they brought the bike,

1501
02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:01,920
» they brought the petition to us. the
road straight city,

1502
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:05,599
» right?
>> And the biggest return on investment for

1503
02:08:03,599 --> 02:08:11,840
us will be the improved property values
from them having paved roadways. Their

1504
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:17,840
home valuations are going to increase
>> and the possibility of 16 more houses.

1505
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:23,440
» Jim, that 205th Street
since it's been sealed, there's a lot of

1506
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:28,079
new homes on that. Lots.
>> A lot of poor people live on that road.

1507
02:08:26,818 --> 02:08:33,760
» [clears throat]
>> Well, but [laughter]

1508
02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:39,760
just one, [clears throat]
but it's uh I think that's re been a

1509
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:43,119
good return for us.
And the

1510
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:50,400
» and that was that was done in the '9s.
>> I I get it. But it really has come

1511
02:08:46,719 --> 02:08:56,480
about. I think this will too. And I'm
not banking on that or anything, but I

1512
02:08:53,199 --> 02:09:04,000
do think these people have been wanting
this for 30 years since since 2005th

1513
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:11,040
Street was and uh Badger Avenue was seal
coated and Mud Hollow. Mud Hollow has

1514
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:15,040
really come alive after that, too.
There's a lot of valuation there.

1515
02:09:13,119 --> 02:09:19,119
» We can go back and forth all day. Let's
just come up with an idea. We're looking

1516
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:24,079
to grow this county and I think the
roads are key to

1517
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:27,840
getting these getting our county to
grow.

1518
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:32,560
» Well, it looks like a consensus is no no
interest and and uh and

1519
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:38,560
proportionally.
>> I can go either way on the interest, but

1520
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:42,560
I do I do want to see the
>> have a return.

1521
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:48,239
» Okay, I'll go 4% then.
I [clears throat] I uh

1522
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:53,520
» I I think $4,000 a year or whatever it
is, you know,

1523
02:09:50,639 --> 02:10:01,960
I think it ain't going to matter much.
You get a credit card, it's what? 30% or

1524
02:09:56,960 --> 02:10:01,960
25 or whatever it is.

1525
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:08,760
» Yeah.
>> Most prudent people don't.

1526
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:19,040
» Susan, please calibrate it. You okay
with 4% proportion?

1527
02:10:15,679 --> 02:10:23,239
» Yeah, I can live with it.
>> I'm always looking for the middle worst.

1528
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:30,400
» You know what? He's already put I agree
with Tim. It's We need a little bit of

1529
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:35,119
return.
>> Be careful.

1530
02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:37,520
» Okay, I'll stop. Okay, we have
>> Tim. I got enough. I've used enough case

1531
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:41,199
time.
>> You okay with that?

1532
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:44,560
I um you know
>> 4%

1533
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:48,320
» seems to be okay with it. He's going to
spend a million dollars

1534
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:56,840
» and he's going to get
>> $100,000 a year back in property tax

1535
02:10:51,599 --> 02:10:56,840
from that which he virtually pays for

1536
02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:05,239
maintenance on a couple of road graders.
That's it.

1537
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:05,239
» And he has to front a million dollars.

1538
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:11,119
And good. And thankfully that'll be out
of FY28's budget, so it give me a little

1539
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:13,679
bit of time, but that is a valid
concern.

1540
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:17,119
» Okay.
All right. You got our nod.

1541
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:19,280
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Andy.

1542
02:11:18,079 --> 02:11:23,280
» And Kristen, you'll look at the
ordinance about the gravel trucks and

1543
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:27,119
trucks.
>> Well, I thought we passed one.

1544
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:32,400
» I think there is an ordinance out there.
I don't know what it says or how it's

1545
02:11:30,159 --> 02:11:39,520
worded. I before this is done.
>> No material hauling

1546
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:43,679
trucks to use the road.
>> That's the sec that's the second or

1547
02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:46,079
third sign that's been up there though.
The first sign that went up was said no

1548
02:11:45,599 --> 02:11:51,199
rock
>> no rock trucks and people also passed

1549
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:55,920
some legislation between when we did the
ordinance and now that might affect it a

1550
02:11:53,679 --> 02:12:00,480
little bit because there there are some
>> she'll look into it. John and I talked

1551
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:05,280
about this when I first started here
because I'm filming was coming up then

1552
02:12:02,639 --> 02:12:09,920
and so this was kind of on Marator
already. Um, but I'll look into it and

1553
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:14,800
see I if we are able to and we need to
update our ordinance, then we can do

1554
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:17,040
that once this has been.
>> We I would like for

1555
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:21,760
» it's on the list
>> for the board to

1556
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:27,040
either put an ordinance or a policy or
procedure together

1557
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:31,760
that spells out how we're how we do
this. I I don't think it should be a

1558
02:12:30,639 --> 02:12:34,480
» case by case scenario.
>> I don't I think it should

1559
02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:37,760
» I think you're right. You're right. So,
we have a really nicely written policy.

1560
02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:41,199
I think maybe did you bring that in
front of the board

1561
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:42,719
back in the spring or was that
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1562
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:47,679
» in April.
>> Um I don't think that the the percentage

1563
02:12:46,079 --> 02:12:52,159
was included in there and I don't think
that the the way that we assess was

1564
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:56,719
included because we wanted to leave it
up to the board. So, if the board wants

1565
02:12:53,760 --> 02:13:00,960
to update that policy with those two
>> pieces of information, I think that's

1566
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:05,599
appropriate. I mean, I I if you're going
to have a interest rate, I wouldn't give

1567
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:10,880
it a percent interest rate. I think I
would do like a market to

1568
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:15,599
» tie it to the market.
>> Yeah. 2 to 10%.

1569
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:23,199
» I think right now it's zero.
>> But wouldn't we set the percentage when

1570
02:13:18,239 --> 02:13:26,880
we come in? I mean, look at the Tim, we
remember years ago when it was 18%.

1571
02:13:26,239 --> 02:13:28,800
You know,
>> yeah,

1572
02:13:27,199 --> 02:13:32,880
» I think that's appropriate. And so the
current funds rate is 4% basically.

1573
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:38,239
» That's our most recent coupon rate for
the bond issuance was that 4%.

1574
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,480
» So I think that makes sense.
>> Andy, thank you.

1575
02:13:39,599 --> 02:13:44,960
» Yeah, thank you for your time.
>> When will you get the petition to them?

1576
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:50,800
» I got to get a little bit more in
writing and then yeah, I'll send it out

1577
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:55,280
tomorrow or this week. Yeah, this week
for sure. [clears throat]

1578
02:13:53,599 --> 02:13:58,239
» I'm sorry. Can I add one more thing
here?

1579
02:13:55,679 --> 02:14:06,000
» Yes.
Did you notify everybody on Amarak?

1580
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:10,320
I have all the I haven't sent it out,
but I have all the addresses. I just

1581
02:14:07,679 --> 02:14:16,400
need to get them added
>> uh to letters and sent out. So, we are

1582
02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:20,159
notifying all the Tamarak residents. Um
that construction is going to start

1583
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:23,920
Monday.
>> It's starting next Monday,

1584
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:27,440
» the 14th.
>> That is Yeah, it is the last we got

1585
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:30,400
contractor. So,
>> well, they're more than ready. I can

1586
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:34,400
tell you. Yeah.
>> Do what you can to get those out today,

1587
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:37,760
tomorrow at the latest so they can get
that. Yeah.

1588
02:14:35,679 --> 02:14:40,880
» And maybe put a couple signs out there.
Construction.

1589
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:43,599
» Yeah. That is priority number one.
>> Send it to the

1590
02:14:41,599 --> 02:14:48,560
» They'll spread it amongst themselves.
>> Y please remember to do that. You make

1591
02:14:46,159 --> 02:14:54,000
the board look bad when all of a sudden
the road gets shut down. There's flagmen

1592
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:59,168
out there and and nobody knows anything
about it. And remember Andy, we can make

1593
02:14:56,639 --> 02:15:01,520
ourselves look bad pretty easy. So
[laughter]

1594
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:04,719
» I will try to keep you guys out of the
>> social media.

1595
02:15:02,239 --> 02:15:08,719
» And they had it closed down today for
working on.

1596
02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:10,880
Yes.
>> Okay.

1597
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:14,943
» Yeah. City of Minton did that.
>> Thanks, Andy. Tate, you're up next.

1598
02:15:12,923 --> 02:15:14,943
[clears throat]

1599
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:21,719
It's going. I sat here long enough.
>> Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't think it was

1600
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,719
going to be

1601
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,840
» um

1602
02:15:27,199 --> 02:15:31,320
I'm getting fixed because I think
Lindsette

1603
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,760
second

1604
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:48,639
county
>> this is at pace correct

1605
02:15:46,159 --> 02:15:54,800
» yes and So, if you're familiar with that
space on the main floor when you walk in

1606
02:15:50,639 --> 02:15:59,679
to the left, they do receptions and
other um notary and things like that.

1607
02:15:57,599 --> 02:16:06,719
And that's where we will be. So, not in
the theater space to the right. So, uh,

1608
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:11,119
the main objective for today's final
study session, because it's officially

1609
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:17,599
next Monday, so we can't have a study
study session about it next week, is to

1610
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:21,280
make sure that we have a good flow um,
and that we're not kind of not

1611
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:24,480
necessarily stepping on each other's
toes, but that we're not repeating

1612
02:16:23,199 --> 02:16:31,040
information that's being covered in
another section and that, um, it's

1613
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:36,639
fitting into the most logical places.
Um, I think all of you in the various

1614
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:42,080
pieces that you've shared with me,
whether it's through notes or kind of

1615
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:47,040
your speaker portions or through actual
slide outlines,

1616
02:16:44,319 --> 02:16:52,160
um, have a pretty solid idea of what you
want to speak about, but I just want to

1617
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:56,960
make sure that um, we're not all hitting
on the same few things and that it looks

1618
02:16:54,960 --> 02:17:00,319
like we all actually had a conversation
together.

1619
02:16:57,599 --> 02:17:03,920
» Have you seen overlap with our slides? I
do feel like there's a little bit of

1620
02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:07,040
overlap on a couple of topics. Um, and
so I just want to make sure we're

1621
02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:11,519
putting those in the most logical
buckets, I guess. And some of it I think

1622
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:17,519
is okay. Um,
for my computer's going to die. Um,

1623
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:23,120
but some of it I think we want to be a
little bit more intentional about where

1624
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:27,599
we speak to things. So, um, Brian shared
with me some of his notes about

1625
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:32,319
preparing for growth. And Brian, I don't
you don't need to read through it all

1626
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:35,760
right now, but um do you have your notes
with you by chance?

1627
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:37,439
» My written notes,
>> the printed out ones that you showed me

1628
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:39,840
this morning?
>> I do.

1629
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:44,319
» Okay. Can you kind of share with the
group some of the the main kind of

1630
02:17:42,559 --> 02:17:48,840
highle things that you want to speak to
since I don't have any of that in the

1631
02:17:45,519 --> 02:17:48,840
slides yet?

1632
02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:54,880
And just as a reminder for everybody,
Brian,

1633
02:17:52,639 --> 02:17:58,719
» I go into a deal about roads and they're
the backbone of our economy and their

1634
02:17:56,960 --> 02:18:04,319
our county.
Um

1635
02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:09,760
they connect families to schools, jobs,
farmers, businesses, markets,

1636
02:18:07,519 --> 02:18:13,439
residents
are major. Then I go into major

1637
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:17,120
subdivisions,
minor subdivisions, which of course

1638
02:18:15,679 --> 02:18:21,439
would be
what we were just talking about kind of

1639
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:25,920
if there was more housing put on some of
these roads.

1640
02:18:23,599 --> 02:18:31,840
Matt Wyatt and I looked over some of
that line kill and the way it kind of

1641
02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:39,280
angles allows some to put two or three
homes on properties in the future and

1642
02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:45,040
there are people looking for that. um
strong planning

1643
02:18:41,599 --> 02:18:52,240
uh planning zoning department
uh momentum are our subdivisions

1644
02:18:49,679 --> 02:18:55,280
that are common Legacy Ridge and Pioneer
Meadows

1645
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:59,760
and
Bob Ming's lot. Do you remember the name

1646
02:18:58,080 --> 02:19:03,120
of his
>> Stony Brook?

1647
02:19:00,880 --> 02:19:06,840
» Stony Brook.
>> Two or three.

1648
02:19:06,960 --> 02:19:12,639
He's got 12 out there.
>> No, I meant Stony Brook has got one

1649
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:17,599
edition or
>> Oh, this is second,

1650
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:23,840
» but Stony Brook two
has new 12 and like 10 of them are

1651
02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:29,840
some are being built
and there's a handful of them that are

1652
02:19:26,399 --> 02:19:33,280
built. I can't remember the guy's name
over there on McFersonson east of the

1653
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:37,399
airport.
>> Peterson.

1654
02:19:34,399 --> 02:19:37,399
» Peterson.

1655
02:19:38,319 --> 02:19:44,240
What's the name of that project? Do you
remember?

1656
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:48,800
Peterson's project.
>> I don't recall.

1657
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:54,000
» And it was a 10 home.
>> And it has a stony brook in its

1658
02:19:50,479 --> 02:19:58,560
driveway, too.
>> Stony

1659
02:19:56,160 --> 02:20:04,640
Haven.
>> Not bitter about that.

1660
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:09,760
» Uh then I go into our little towns a
little bit. what we helped and one thing

1661
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:15,359
I needed help was didn't we we helped
Crescent Trainer and didn't we help

1662
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:21,040
Carter Lake with the project over there
with ARPA funds?

1663
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:26,479
» I sent a list to
uh

1664
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:31,200
Jeff, do you have that email list that I
sent to you that had all the different

1665
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:36,720
small towns where you had helped? get I
mean this my laptop here now is is

1666
02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:42,160
battery's dead. All right. I might be
able to find it on my phone. Okay.

1667
02:20:38,479 --> 02:20:46,319
» Then I want to go into how the schools
because each of our schools out in the

1668
02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:54,319
county,
Trainer, AOKA,

1669
02:20:48,399 --> 02:21:00,000
Oakland, uh, Tri Center and Underwood
attract a lot of people. and I go into

1670
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:05,840
what they've added in each little town
and how they're working on more land

1671
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:08,840
for development.
Um

1672
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:20,399
then I just touched base on
um

1673
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:25,200
people want a good quality of life. They
want safe place for their children to

1674
02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:29,200
play, trails where families can walk and
bike and parks where they can enjoy the

1675
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:37,640
outdoors. That's where our conservation
department plays an important role. Um,

1676
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:37,640
a better place to live.

1677
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:47,200
They're not extras. They're just
amenities that we get to live with.

1678
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:53,479
healthy connected communities where
people put down roads, roots,

1679
02:21:50,479 --> 02:21:53,479
uh,

1680
02:21:54,399 --> 02:22:01,160
quality of life, private,
and then I talk about

1681
02:22:01,439 --> 02:22:09,680
the
commercial development down south of uh,

1682
02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:15,680
Lewis Central. I just touched base on
that how that's filled up and we there's

1683
02:22:13,439 --> 02:22:20,560
more coming
and hopefully we continue to fill that

1684
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:24,600
spot
and grow the road

1685
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:31,120
viably
a piece at a time.

1686
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:34,720
» Great.
>> That's the overview. Okay.

1687
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:39,040
» Yep. And so this is the preparing for
growth section just as a reminder to

1688
02:22:36,479 --> 02:22:43,200
everybody. Um,
so obviously responsible population,

1689
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:47,520
housing, economic growth, um,
development, race sites, which I really

1690
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:54,439
think that touches on all of that. Um,
does anybody have any questions for

1691
02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:54,439
Brian on any of those points?

1692
02:22:56,720 --> 02:23:01,800
» That was quick. That was easy.
>> Great.

1693
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:08,319
» What was that?
>> Said he's not done yet.

1694
02:23:05,439 --> 02:23:10,160
» I'm not. Well, we don't know. We're
doing this, I guess.

1695
02:23:09,439 --> 02:23:16,640
» Oh, okay.
>> Okay. So, then we go to Susan's section

1696
02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:22,399
on investing responsibly. Um Susan
walked through her presentation with

1697
02:23:18,479 --> 02:23:23,840
myself um and Matt Walsh on is that just
Friday?

1698
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:25,760
» Friday.
>> Um

1699
02:23:24,319 --> 02:23:28,399
» and also with Tim.
>> Oh, great.

1700
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:34,319
» And then I've got a meeting with Stevie
on Thursday so that she can help me with

1701
02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:39,600
the data behind some of the tables. And
so Susan's section um is definitely more

1702
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:43,680
chart focused and graphs and because
obviously there's a lot of data

1703
02:23:40,960 --> 02:23:48,880
supporting this um and obviously Susan
I'll let you kind of take it away from

1704
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:54,560
there but
basically it's just talking about the

1705
02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:59,920
levy rates and how they were pretty
stagnant back in 2021 and that they

1706
02:23:57,200 --> 02:24:05,760
truly have been coming down.
And if you go on to the next slide

1707
02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:11,280
where we could be
charging property taxes but we're not.

1708
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:14,960
And the next slide
>> the bottom one's us correct.

1709
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:18,399
» Yes. The bottom one's us.
>> What's the top one? The green one.

1710
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:21,280
» The average in the state
>> estimated what we could collect.

1711
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:23,840
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1712
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:31,439
» And that average of the state.
>> No, this is estimated based on uh our

1713
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:36,800
» No, the green one. Yeah, that's based on
what we could be asking for from the

1714
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:44,520
» growth of the values of correct
>> based on that and changes in levy rates

1715
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:44,520
of what we can collect.

1716
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:53,915
Then just some photos of what's going on
with the counties and I've got some

1717
02:24:49,600 --> 02:24:57,280
speaking points to recorder's office and
[clears throat]

1718
02:24:54,479 --> 02:25:01,439
I don't have my slides in or my material
in front of me. That's fine. I just

1719
02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:05,120
wanted you to be able to touch on a few
of the main points in your section so

1720
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:08,800
that again as we go through if we start
to feel like we're hearing things

1721
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:12,720
multiple times um or anything like that
that we can adjust.

1722
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:15,760
» Are you going to change that one
picture?

1723
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:18,000
» Yes. The one on the very front.
>> Yeah.

1724
02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:21,120
» Yeah.
>> Which one? Yeah. Which one?

1725
02:25:19,439 --> 02:25:25,680
» The deputy's car. Oh.
>> Oh, yeah. I was wondering what that why

1726
02:25:23,439 --> 02:25:28,800
was that up there? Well, Kate was
helping me find

1727
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:34,160
» It's hard to find some photos that work
for some of these topics, Tim. I'll be

1728
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:38,960
honest. Um, I was trying to find
something that was communicating, you

1729
02:25:36,479 --> 02:25:41,040
know, some of the investment in 911 and
things and we don't have a lot of

1730
02:25:40,319 --> 02:25:48,920
photos.
>> Shiny Chrome is easier than 911 tower.

1731
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:48,920
» Yeah.

1732
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:57,359
And then when we go to this real busy
slide, it's got a whole bunch of

1733
02:25:53,680 --> 02:26:05,280
information in there. And I'm planning
to have handouts made of my slides with

1734
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:10,800
some of the definitions that speak to
it'll have narrative that explains what

1735
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:18,399
capital projects are, each of those
categories, what's bucketed into it. And

1736
02:26:14,880 --> 02:26:23,600
Tim wants me to be able to answer
questions when they say, "Well, your

1737
02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:30,080
capital projects went from 3% to 18%.
Why? What is that? How did that happen?"

1738
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:37,280
So, I've got to be prepared for all of
that. But basically, that's

1739
02:26:34,319 --> 02:26:40,280
that's how the county is funded and
operated.

1740
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:55,520
And then for 2026 27 this is how our
budget is and over 50% is between

1741
02:26:50,720 --> 02:27:00,720
um this public safety and legal services
>> louder public safety and legal services

1742
02:26:58,960 --> 02:27:04,479
is the biggest blue one.
>> Well we should cut that legal service

1743
02:27:03,359 --> 02:27:08,560
deal. [laughter]
>> Yeah and roads and transportation is

1744
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:14,520
your next biggest blue one there.
>> Yeah. So over 50% fall into both of

1745
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:14,520
those categories

1746
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:21,120
there. Again, it's just a high level.
>> Be interesting to see them broken up

1747
02:27:19,439 --> 02:27:24,640
though. Public service and legal
services.

1748
02:27:23,120 --> 02:27:30,240
» I'm really hoping that somebody doesn't
want to call out to have us explain what

1749
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:34,880
we spend our legal services for.
But this is the budget.

1750
02:27:33,439 --> 02:27:39,520
This is the budget we're currently
operating under.

1751
02:27:37,439 --> 02:27:44,560
And then I think the rest of my slide,
yeah, we go back and we talk more about

1752
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:49,200
the capital projects, specifically the
911 communications

1753
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:52,319
and
>> Oh, yeah.

1754
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:55,920
» Then I've got some more photos I need to
put in.

1755
02:27:53,680 --> 02:28:01,439
» Um, one of the things I talk about is
cyber security and how that's something

1756
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:05,920
that's relatively new in the last five
years that we never had to fund for

1757
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:10,800
before.
And then the 911 communications, how

1758
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:16,479
that's going to set us up for success
for at least the next 15, 20 years and

1759
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:23,319
how it interacts with all of the other
counties around us.

1760
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:23,319
And then

1761
02:28:23,680 --> 02:28:28,640
yeah, when we're speaking to how we're
investing the county's future, did I

1762
02:28:27,439 --> 02:28:33,760
have a slide after that one?
>> You do have this slide.

1763
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:41,520
Oh, and then I want to talk about GIS
and the importance of keeping track of

1764
02:28:38,399 --> 02:28:48,720
addresses and making sure that we are
set up for a good census in 2030 because

1765
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:56,479
every person helps fund.
I mean, the census numbers do a lot and

1766
02:28:52,560 --> 02:29:00,800
I just explained that and how our GIS
works with all of the small cities to

1767
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:04,399
make sure that their addressing is all
correct and that we're counting for

1768
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:10,560
everybody.
And then we talk about Tamarak Road and

1769
02:29:06,960 --> 02:29:15,920
how it's starting that day.
um our process for budget and how we

1770
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:21,120
work with the department heads and we
have multiple study sessions

1771
02:29:19,359 --> 02:29:25,560
we just determine how we're going to
move forward. So

1772
02:29:26,479 --> 02:29:32,319
how we're investing is that mine
>> I think that at this point is just a

1773
02:29:30,479 --> 02:29:34,720
duplicate slide now because I feel like
you've essentially answered that on the

1774
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:38,880
previous slide.
>> Brian, do you cover Tamarak in your

1775
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:43,760
section or is it okay for Susan to have
that? I would prefer you did it.

1776
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:48,640
» Okay, that's fine.
>> No, I I I have not touched base on that.

1777
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:51,760
» The two slides are a little different.
One says, "How are we investing in the

1778
02:29:50,479 --> 02:29:56,160
county's future?" The other one says,
"How are we investing the county's

1779
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:58,720
future?"
>> So, you need

1780
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:01,120
» I know you're going to pull one of them,
but pull the one that doesn't have the N

1781
02:30:00,399 --> 02:30:05,200
in it.
>> Yeah. I I've got some clean up to do,

1782
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:11,680
but I've got my narrative all written.
>> Yep.

1783
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:16,479
» Okay. Um, any questions for Susan's
section from any of you right now?

1784
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:19,920
» And I can I can send you my talking
points.

1785
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:26,000
» Bye.
>> You got them.

1786
02:30:21,359 --> 02:30:30,720
» Um, so then we go to Keith. Um, I know
you had asked for the photo of Jeff. Um,

1787
02:30:28,479 --> 02:30:36,560
I don't know that I love having it on
this divider slide because I feel like

1788
02:30:34,479 --> 02:30:41,680
instead of it's about people behind
county government and this is very much

1789
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:45,280
a person singular. Um, so
>> I'm going to talk about Jeff and his

1790
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:48,960
importance with economic development
through the parks. So there's a reason

1791
02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:52,319
why I wanted Jeff.
>> Okay.

1792
02:30:50,479 --> 02:30:56,479
» If you want a different picture of Jeff,
I completely understand. There's a

1793
02:30:54,240 --> 02:31:00,560
reason why I want Jeff.
>> Okay.

1794
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:04,240
and not like more from his
>> and here's why. I'm going to introduce

1795
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:08,720
the picture say this is Jeff. He's our
director of uh conservation for Paw

1796
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:11,520
County. Believe it or not, he might be
one of the most important people in this

1797
02:31:10,319 --> 02:31:15,439
room when it comes to economic
development and we will talk more about

1798
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:18,960
that later. My name is Keith Jones. I
have the pleasure of talking with you

1799
02:31:16,960 --> 02:31:23,040
today about the amazing people of
Padawani County. I'm going to do that on

1800
02:31:20,960 --> 02:31:28,479
two different levels. One are the
amazing citizens that we serve. one are

1801
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:32,880
the um the public employees who give the
services to me. That's how I'm going to

1802
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:38,160
start.
The concept is simple. We have a cycle

1803
02:31:36,399 --> 02:31:42,240
of service that starts with our
residents who vote for the board of

1804
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:46,399
supervisors. I can't I'm sorry. I should
be looking at my own. Um the most

1805
02:31:45,439 --> 02:31:50,000
important thing that we do as
supervisors is spend other people's

1806
02:31:48,080 --> 02:31:54,960
money. We do so by putting together a
budget and loving your tax dollars. Um

1807
02:31:53,359 --> 02:31:59,040
and then the second most important thing
that we do is surround ourselves with

1808
02:31:56,479 --> 02:32:04,479
amazing people who are department heads.
Those people will then employ over 500

1809
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:11,040
employees who give back essential
services to our employees. Next slide.

1810
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:16,560
Here are some of the things that we
provide as a county. Most of those

1811
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:22,240
things you will see are pretty basic.
Next one.

1812
02:32:18,560 --> 02:32:26,000
And this is yours, Kate. Um, you know, I
guess I can further say that our

1813
02:32:24,319 --> 02:32:29,760
services are broken down in four
different ways. We protect and respond.

1814
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:35,920
» Yeah. Basically, I just took your
information and tried to format it in a

1815
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:38,479
way that was more visual and um a little
more categorized instead of just being

1816
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:45,280
like one long list.
>> Right. Okay. Next slide.

1817
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:48,800
Um,
>> and this is as far as I'd gotten, so I

1818
02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:52,720
have not reformatted from here. But also
with some of these, I wanted to make

1819
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:57,120
sure we talked through some of this to
make sure that we weren't repeating a

1820
02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:59,680
lot of the tax levy things that Susan
would have just talked about.

1821
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:07,120
» All right, hold on for a second. If you
go back to her slide,

1822
02:33:02,399 --> 02:33:11,359
go back. No, go back again.
Okay, I'm Did you take out a bunch of my

1823
02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:17,040
slides? This is all the information that
you had just reformatted and anything

1824
02:33:14,880 --> 02:33:20,319
that I did reformat I hid. I didn't
delete. So, it's all still there. We

1825
02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:23,120
could go back and reference it if we
need to.

1826
02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:27,200
» Right. So, I have our functions and our
mandates by Iowa code. That's important

1827
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:32,000
for me.
>> Um,

1828
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:36,280
» so on I have all my original slides.
>> Can you flip to the next? Sorry, Stevie.

1829
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:44,640
Not I don't even have that on my slide
deck.

1830
02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:47,680
» Well, this was the one about the talent
with the new detention officers and

1831
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:51,800
everything. So, this was your content
just reformatted. Um,

1832
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:58,640
I can't pull up my computer because it
died. So,

1833
02:33:56,479 --> 02:34:01,520
» um,
okay. So, I'm going to talk about our

1834
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:05,520
functions. We have to have a courthouse
and it's mandated by Iowa State Code. We

1835
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:10,399
have to have a sheriff and is mandated
by Iowa code. We have to have a jail, a

1836
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:15,040
recorder, an attorney, so forth and so
on. Most of that stuff is pretty basic.

1837
02:34:13,280 --> 02:34:18,240
But what you don't know is the fact that
we have to have a health department. We

1838
02:34:16,640 --> 02:34:21,920
also have to give behavioral health
services. And then here's something that

1839
02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:26,479
you probably never thought about. We
also have to offer rent assistance by

1840
02:34:24,560 --> 02:34:31,120
the Iowa code.
>> Um, and then what I'm going to say is

1841
02:34:28,960 --> 02:34:34,960
our functions are statutory. We are not
a business. And here's a hard

1842
02:34:32,800 --> 02:34:39,439
conversation. Most of the people in this
room live very good lives. They don't

1843
02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:45,439
live like kings or queens or rock stars,
but we can, you know, we have cars to

1844
02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:50,000
drive. We have roofs over our houses,
but there are many people in Padawani

1845
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:54,160
County that need our services.
Which takes me to the next slide, which

1846
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:57,760
that's the one that had your picture on
it.

1847
02:34:55,840 --> 02:35:03,840
» That's this. No.
>> All right. Stop right there. It says

1848
02:35:00,880 --> 02:35:07,040
county property taxes are about 20%.
That's only if you live in the corporate

1849
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:09,680
limits of a city.
>> Correct. Or most of us.

1850
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:14,800
» Okay.
>> So, don't Yeah, that's not true.

1851
02:35:12,319 --> 02:35:21,120
» Right. Okay. So, for most of us, which
is 66% of the county, that is that is

1852
02:35:19,359 --> 02:35:25,280
correct. And I'll explain it when I get
there. If you don't feel good about it,

1853
02:35:23,600 --> 02:35:30,399
then I'll take it out. But we're going
to have a lot of people who say, "I pay

1854
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:35,040
all these taxes when in fact most of the
taxes are the schools in the city."

1855
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:39,439
And I'd like to touch on that without
making people mad.

1856
02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:44,880
» But did we cover that enough in how
Susan broke out the levy and the

1857
02:35:42,880 --> 02:35:50,800
property tax or do you feel like this is
>> I don't think she really did break out

1858
02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:56,080
there. shoot our that levy breakout is
really just the different areas of our

1859
02:35:52,800 --> 02:36:00,640
levy. We really didn't touch on
connecting jurisdictions.

1860
02:35:58,560 --> 02:36:03,840
» Okay, before this slide, this is the
slide I actually have. I I'm going to

1861
02:36:02,479 --> 02:36:07,680
talk about the personal highlights this
year. We added a department head and

1862
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:12,240
that is Kate Gerber. We added four new
jailers. We are added a sheriff's

1863
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:16,240
department process server who also does
things for

1864
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:20,080
the sex abuse registry. And believe it
or not, we have 315 people on that

1865
02:36:18,479 --> 02:36:24,800
registry that she has to help keep track
of. I think that'll be good for people

1866
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:29,600
to know that she stays very busy. Andy
Wixs also reorganized secondary roads

1867
02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:32,160
for greater efficiency. Dr. Elliot will
be leaving soon. We need to finance a

1868
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:35,439
replacement.
>> Actually,

1869
02:36:34,479 --> 02:36:37,520
he [clears throat] said he would
continue on.

1870
02:36:36,319 --> 02:36:41,920
» Okay. Well, then I'll take that.
>> I thought I'd mention that to everybody.

1871
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:46,200
He called me and
told me he would continue on.

1872
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:50,880
There's still long-term succession
planning with him though, right? Because

1873
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:55,200
isn't it only for a year or is he
continuing on inevit definitely

1874
02:36:53,439 --> 02:36:59,200
» years I think is what I was going to
say. I think it's we should start

1875
02:36:57,680 --> 02:37:02,160
looking for somebody because it will
probably take a while to get something.

1876
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:07,280
» I think you can still refer to it as
succession planning.

1877
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:12,000
Um, and then like I said on my other
slide that I had before, employee

1878
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:17,399
turnover is always a significant issue,
especially when it comes to the

1879
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:17,399
sheriff's department and the jail.

1880
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:25,200
Okay. And then I get to this one. Okay.
This is a hard conversation. The board

1881
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:31,280
of supervisors can reduce your property
taxes. Keeping in mind that about 20% of

1882
02:37:28,319 --> 02:37:36,399
your taxes of the people here comes from
the county. That means cutting employees

1883
02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:40,319
who provide services. 80% of our budget
is personnel. County employees only

1884
02:37:38,080 --> 02:37:47,600
received a 3% raise this year. The
consumer price index was 2.8%.

1885
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:51,760
So if we cut your property taxes, we
have to ask ourselves, what services do

1886
02:37:49,439 --> 02:37:55,600
we cut?
If that's too blatant, I'll take it out.

1887
02:37:54,479 --> 02:37:58,640
But I think it's something
>> I think that's important for people to

1888
02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:02,560
realize.
>> You know, we we get this conversation

1889
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:07,040
quite often. I want my property taxes
lowered. Great. What do we cut? Because

1890
02:38:04,880 --> 02:38:10,479
it's literally to that point. And I
think we need to frame it that way. We

1891
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:15,040
need to be straight with these people.
They're business people and they're

1892
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:19,439
prominent people in our community.
They're going to understand

1893
02:38:17,920 --> 02:38:24,080
there's a trade-off.
>> I think it's huge. You show the

1894
02:38:21,439 --> 02:38:29,520
percentage
of schools,

1895
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:31,840
your city taxes, and the county taxes.
Well, I don't want to get into a fight

1896
02:38:30,960 --> 02:38:35,280
because I know we're going to have
people from the city and probably even

1897
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:39,760
the schools there, too. I don't want to
get into a shouting match, pointing

1898
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:45,439
match, or whatever you want to call it.
But when you look at the property taxes,

1899
02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:49,200
we're not as big as the city or the
schools, and people need to know that.

1900
02:38:48,800 --> 02:38:52,720
» Okay,
>> my schools are 62.

1901
02:38:50,479 --> 02:38:56,880
» And then be negligent of me not to talk
about artificial intelligence. I'll

1902
02:38:54,319 --> 02:39:02,399
touch about that real fast. And then I
get into this whole thing with if you go

1903
02:38:59,359 --> 02:39:05,760
to the next slide,
county does have a problem. It's

1904
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:12,240
something you probably never thought of.
No, it's not muppet vampires. It's

1905
02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:16,479
stagnant population. I'll talk about the
census over the last six times and how

1906
02:39:14,960 --> 02:39:20,560
we really [clears throat] haven't moved.
And even the state of Iowa had a decline

1907
02:39:18,319 --> 02:39:24,240
of 3%.
Next one.

1908
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:29,680
And without population growth, we don't
have economic development or an

1909
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:33,120
expansion of the tax base.
Basically, the same people, the same

1910
02:39:31,600 --> 02:39:39,760
property owners have been paying our
property taxes for the last 50 years.

1911
02:39:37,760 --> 02:39:44,800
Okay. So then as a community, we need
innovative solutions to uh attract and

1912
02:39:42,640 --> 02:39:48,640
retain people, preferably younger
people, and that's because they're going

1913
02:39:47,120 --> 02:39:57,840
to be our workforce and our future
leaders. Next slide. Our

1914
02:39:54,160 --> 02:40:03,720
goal is to set an environment
um so that we can attract and retain um

1915
02:40:00,720 --> 02:40:03,720
businesses

1916
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:10,640
uh which will bring a workforce here.
That means we should try to worry about

1917
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:15,359
low property taxes and fees, better
infrastructure, better services, and

1918
02:40:13,120 --> 02:40:17,520
maintaining public safety. And we have a
real problem with that that maybe

1919
02:40:16,479 --> 02:40:23,520
haven't thought about it, and that's
rural EMT coverage.

1920
02:40:20,479 --> 02:40:29,280
Young people seek experiences.
My final slide. I come back to Jeff.

1921
02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:34,560
That my final slide. No, I don't I have
one more. When young families relocate,

1922
02:40:32,479 --> 02:40:39,040
they look at this school systems,
recreational opportunities, and the the

1923
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:43,280
economics of the move. And that brings
us back to Jeff Franco. Believe it or

1924
02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:47,120
not,
our county conservation can separate us

1925
02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:52,000
from other communities. We have Botna
Bend, Air Park, Hitchcock, the trail

1926
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:58,800
centers, and even the ski hill.
>> Old old town. Don't forget Oldtown in

1927
02:40:55,600 --> 02:41:02,160
there. Okay.
>> Then finally, even the governor thinks

1928
02:41:00,960 --> 02:41:08,600
that we're moving in the right
direction. I encourage you today to go

1929
02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:08,600
outside and enjoy your parks

1930
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:17,040
» right now.
>> Well, let's wait for a couple minutes.

1931
02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:20,080
Thoughts?
Have I strayed too much from what you

1932
02:41:19,280 --> 02:41:26,720
guys thought?
>> I I think a lot of what you're talking

1933
02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:33,040
about strategically about cutting cost
and stuff is kind of what I've already

1934
02:41:29,359 --> 02:41:36,720
touched in with the narrative that I
didn't tell you about. But

1935
02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:40,960
» well, keep in mind I'm only going to
talk for a second about cutting costs,

1936
02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:45,280
and that is there's a trade-off. We can
cut your property levy, but we're going

1937
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:48,920
to lose services. That's literally as
far as I'm going to go.

1938
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:53,680
» That needs to be said somewhere in this
presentation.

1939
02:41:52,319 --> 02:41:59,120
» It's a hard conversation that people
don't want to hear, but I mean, they're

1940
02:41:56,240 --> 02:42:02,240
all professionals.
>> Yeah, I think connecting it back to the

1941
02:42:00,560 --> 02:42:07,680
people who provide the services helps
keep it relevant to your section. Um,

1942
02:42:05,280 --> 02:42:13,520
the AI slide threw me a little bit as
kind of a like random topic shift. Um,

1943
02:42:12,160 --> 02:42:17,920
so I don't know, part of that might just
be that it didn't have as much context

1944
02:42:16,479 --> 02:42:21,359
as I'm, you know, just clicking through
slides and everything

1945
02:42:19,040 --> 02:42:25,840
» of the workforce to AI. We don't know
when that's going to happen. My guess is

1946
02:42:22,880 --> 02:42:30,560
the time arises two to five years. But
for, I mean, the treasurer's office and

1947
02:42:28,240 --> 02:42:35,520
the auditor's office, if the auditor
does 600,000 payments a year, at some

1948
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:39,600
time or another,
deficiencies will take over and we will

1949
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:44,880
lose people from that office. Do you
want to also mention anything about the

1950
02:42:42,160 --> 02:42:49,840
county having an AI policy or an AI
committee or anything like that? Or

1951
02:42:46,960 --> 02:42:55,120
» the AI policy at this point basically
says we're not going to we're not going

1952
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:59,280
to use let AI come up with our ideas. I
don't know how that's going to affect

1953
02:42:56,720 --> 02:43:02,520
the community as a large
>> at large.

1954
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:10,800
Right. Does anybody else have any
question? I'm trying to be careful and

1955
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:15,120
I'm not going to say
>> we're going to step on each other just a

1956
02:43:13,439 --> 02:43:19,840
smidge human.
>> I just wanted to look intentional, I

1957
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:24,160
guess, and as if you're reinforcing each
other's points versus if you're trying

1958
02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:27,840
to remake someone's point or as if you
think you're the one who's making it for

1959
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:32,000
the first time when someone has just
heard it. Like, I just don't want it to

1960
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:38,560
look like four completely distinct
presentations that never met each other

1961
02:43:35,040 --> 02:43:42,640
before 11:30 a.m. on Monday. the 14th.
That's really what I'm hoping for at

1962
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:46,560
this point.
>> Okay.

1963
02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:53,439
» So, does anybody else have any other
questions or I'm just kind of looking

1964
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:58,560
back through to see so because
people behind county government. I mean,

1965
02:43:55,439 --> 02:44:01,279
we're on topic here. That's
>> and I've got to update the employee

1966
02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:05,359
number because I want to make sure that
we're using the same number throughout

1967
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:08,960
as well, which is 500 plus. So, anytime
you're referencing the number of

1968
02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:13,200
employees, we're saying 500 plus or more
than 500, however you feels comfortable

1969
02:44:11,120 --> 02:44:16,960
for you to say that um because we had it
mentioned in like three different

1970
02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:21,200
numbers in everyone's p section of the
presentation. So, we pulled that

1971
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:23,760
directly from our wonderful payroll team
uh to make sure that we're using the

1972
02:44:22,319 --> 02:44:29,520
most accurate number possible
>> and over 80% goes for wages. Correct.

1973
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:34,160
» Where did that come from?
>> What directly from Kelly?

1974
02:44:30,880 --> 02:44:37,439
» 80% of being the personnel cost. What's
the actual number?

1975
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:42,560
» Because I had Becky run it twice in
within about three months before she

1976
02:44:39,920 --> 02:44:46,479
left and it's from her and you know
she's wrong. She's wrong. That's fine.

1977
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:53,040
But what she kept came up with
consistently was about 48 49%.

1978
02:44:50,319 --> 02:44:57,840
Which
I mean if you think about it 80 I heard

1979
02:44:55,200 --> 02:45:02,000
I heard one of you say 83%. That leaves
17% of the budget to buy all the

1980
02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:07,120
sheriff's cars, to do all the paving to
I mean that's I don't know. I I just And

1981
02:45:04,960 --> 02:45:09,200
maybe there's a Stevie, have you run
those?

1982
02:45:07,520 --> 02:45:14,760
» I haven't run it, but I'm making a note.
I will run it and we'll get some firmer

1983
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:14,760
numbers up there.

1984
02:45:16,399 --> 02:45:25,040
» Yeah, the jail's $20 million, although a
lot of that is personnel.

1985
02:45:22,080 --> 02:45:29,680
Roads is $20 million.
A lot of that's personnel. I don't know.

1986
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:35,680
» Yeah, I couldn't quote it for you right
now, but yeah, I'll get you something

1987
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:39,760
» more backed up. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, Stevie, sorry. You were saying

1988
02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:43,359
» um I do agree this one does feel very
different and just looking at the fates

1989
02:45:41,920 --> 02:45:47,200
of it, it doesn't really tie it back
directly to people, but I think you can

1990
02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:52,399
tweak it. So, you can say
>> artificial intelligence might be um

1991
02:45:50,874 --> 02:45:56,960
[snorts] you might feel like it's
jeopardizing our employees or something.

1992
02:45:55,040 --> 02:46:00,720
» Let me ask you this. If I don't bring up
AI, who will? Somebody needs

1993
02:45:59,120 --> 02:46:01,600
» That's a good question.
>> Uh,

1994
02:46:01,279 --> 02:46:05,040
» yeah,
>> it's gonna be a very relevant issue and

1995
02:46:03,439 --> 02:46:08,240
somebody should at least touch on it.
>> Yeah, and I think I think you're on the

1996
02:46:06,880 --> 02:46:12,640
right track. I think it just needs to be
tweaked because we're talking about

1997
02:46:09,520 --> 02:46:17,520
we're bringing in new talent. Um, we're
mainly up to this point talking about

1998
02:46:14,720 --> 02:46:21,760
our employees. So I think if you kind of
just tweak it a little bit and say our

1999
02:46:19,120 --> 02:46:26,160
employees, you know, we're putting in
steps to make sure that our employees

2000
02:46:23,439 --> 02:46:30,560
are not going to face the challenges of
artificial intelligence replacing a lot

2001
02:46:28,479 --> 02:46:33,520
of their duties.
>> We're not

2002
02:46:31,680 --> 02:46:36,399
» we're not doing that yet. We don't know
how it's going to affect us. It

2003
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:37,840
certainly will affect us in the next two
to five years.

2004
02:46:37,279 --> 02:46:41,040
» Yeah.
>> And that's all I'm going to say. We

2005
02:46:39,439 --> 02:46:46,240
don't know how it's going to affect us,
but it will. And it will affect us when

2006
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:50,960
it comes to employees. There's no doubt.
Yes. Okay. Uh

2007
02:46:49,120 --> 02:46:56,880
» and correct me if I'm wrong on that.
>> And then this moves to population.

2008
02:46:53,680 --> 02:47:01,359
I think the unknown is what's true. I I
agree with that.

2009
02:46:59,359 --> 02:47:05,520
So you shift from county employees to
population. I think that's a good shift

2010
02:47:03,279 --> 02:47:11,520
because it's still
what we're looking at people

2011
02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:15,439
always dealt with.
And I did like

2012
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:17,920
» and you're saying it ironically that
it's a problem that no one has thought

2013
02:47:16,880 --> 02:47:20,399
of, right?
>> Well, the chamber has thought about it,

2014
02:47:19,920 --> 02:47:24,880
» right?
>> But the [clears throat] audiences at

2015
02:47:23,200 --> 02:47:30,479
large probably hasn't.
>> You know, they probably audience at a

2016
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:33,640
chamber event has been forced to think
about it.

2017
02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:41,439
» You guys talk about it all the time. Um,
I mean, at the midyear meeting, um,

2018
02:47:39,040 --> 02:47:45,760
Chris Lefera introduced himself as, "My
name is Chris Lefera and I care about

2019
02:47:43,920 --> 02:47:48,080
population growth and council bluffs.
It's nice to meet you." And if you

2020
02:47:46,960 --> 02:47:50,240
haven't heard me say that, then we've
never met.

2021
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:53,920
» The state of the county is for the
public. It happens to be hosted by the

2022
02:47:52,479 --> 02:47:56,640
Chamber of Commerce.
>> But it's not a public event. It's a

2023
02:47:55,200 --> 02:47:59,200
ticketed event still through the
Chamber. Is it?

2024
02:47:57,439 --> 02:48:04,479
» It'll be covered by media outlets.
Hopefully, there will be a story from

2025
02:48:01,760 --> 02:48:09,840
the Napil. And will there be news
stations there or not?

2026
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:13,920
» Um, I don't know how much news coverage
this one typically gets.

2027
02:48:11,040 --> 02:48:16,800
» Probably not. Probably not cameras.
>> So, you're saying [clears throat] this

2028
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:21,439
should all be patterned toward the
Chamber of Commerce?

2029
02:48:18,160 --> 02:48:25,359
» No, not necessarily. I just knowing how
of the 92 people that are registered for

2030
02:48:23,920 --> 02:48:28,000
this event right now, because those are
the ones that you know you have are the

2031
02:48:26,880 --> 02:48:33,120
ones who are going to be in the room.
There's no guarantee for any visibility

2032
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:38,240
beyond that. um making sure that we are
not coming across as

2033
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:42,080
believing that we're saying something
for the first time that this room has

2034
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:45,680
likely heard many times because it is
often

2035
02:48:43,439 --> 02:48:50,000
» a very repetitive
>> observation could be a part of the

2036
02:48:47,680 --> 02:48:54,800
economic development of this town or
this area. They probably never thought

2037
02:48:52,479 --> 02:48:58,399
of that connection before.
They think in terms of hey we want more

2038
02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:01,680
businesses. We can't have more
businesses if we don't have young

2039
02:48:59,760 --> 02:49:06,160
people. And the young people deserve or
they I'm sorry, they seek experiences

2040
02:49:04,319 --> 02:49:09,359
which will be satisfied in our
conservation.

2041
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:13,927
» I mean, I don't know if they ever heard
of that twist before, which I'm going to

2042
02:49:12,240 --> 02:49:16,240
be bringing.
[clears throat]

2043
02:49:14,880 --> 02:49:21,439
Help me.
>> No, I think that's fine. Like I said, I

2044
02:49:17,840 --> 02:49:27,040
just I I don't want us to try and
deliver a message that

2045
02:49:24,399 --> 02:49:32,319
they have heard. Obviously, there's
elements of it that they haven't

2046
02:49:28,399 --> 02:49:35,520
necessarily, but
I guess part of it when I was trying to

2047
02:49:33,840 --> 02:49:38,960
clean up slides and make edits and
things is I couldn't quite tell the tone

2048
02:49:37,279 --> 02:49:44,880
with certain things and what direction
you wanted that to go like with the

2049
02:49:42,479 --> 02:49:48,960
Muppet or the Sesame Street character.
>> I'll take that out. I was just trying to

2050
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:50,800
think of something scary.
We don't even

2051
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,640
» Okay,
>> we have a problem and you have a

2052
02:49:53,760 --> 02:49:57,359
» because I was like trying to figure out
I was like is it specifically about it

2053
02:49:56,000 --> 02:50:00,080
being count? Like are we talking about
counting things?

2054
02:49:58,000 --> 02:50:03,200
» So that's the ironic is he's also a
counterhu

2055
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:07,520
» you know what I mean?
>> Okay.

2056
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:11,359
» I'm challenging the minds as well as
and again if you want it out I'll take

2057
02:50:09,359 --> 02:50:18,800
it out. I'm just trying to think of
something scary.

2058
02:50:13,680 --> 02:50:22,560
» Sure. But ironically, it's it counts.
And we're talking about population.

2059
02:50:22,048 --> 02:50:24,880
[clears throat]
>> Get it now that you explain it.

2060
02:50:24,668 --> 02:50:30,319
[laughter]
>> Like I said, I'm trying to be uh cutting

2061
02:50:27,359 --> 02:50:31,600
edge.
>> You are, Keith.

2062
02:50:31,200 --> 02:50:35,840
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Anything else for this section?

2063
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:39,760
» If you want me to tweak it, let me know
now.

2064
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:43,040
» Yeah. And we can talk about I'll go back
and look at the hidden slides and make

2065
02:50:41,359 --> 02:50:46,080
sure that everything is
>> I'll do my own slides. I don't mind

2066
02:50:44,560 --> 02:50:51,359
that. I thought you wanted to format
slides so they all look the same, but I

2067
02:50:49,359 --> 02:50:53,920
want to use my slides.
>> Okay.

2068
02:50:51,840 --> 02:50:58,080
» So,
if you want I mean I'll I'll clean up my

2069
02:50:56,080 --> 02:51:01,120
slides, but like I said, I thought you
wanted all four.

2070
02:50:59,840 --> 02:51:04,479
» Yeah, I was trying to give it like I
said more like the visual element with

2071
02:51:02,560 --> 02:51:08,640
like the cycle versus it just being like
this this this this like bullet points

2072
02:51:06,479 --> 02:51:12,399
and so but I felt like I retained the
content. If you don't feel like it's

2073
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:17,359
there, then we can look at it. I want to
keep it real to the point. Um, and then

2074
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:20,359
I'll give the narrative.
>> Okay.

2075
02:51:20,640 --> 02:51:24,560
» Okay. Anything else on that?
>> I introduce Jeff. Correct.

2076
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:28,720
» Yep.
>> Yeah. You guys all introduce the next

2077
02:51:26,240 --> 02:51:31,760
person who follows you.
>> Put your hands together for Jeff

2078
02:51:29,840 --> 02:51:35,359
Jorgensson.
>> A lot of feedback on that one, Keith.

2079
02:51:33,359 --> 02:51:39,040
Thanks for thanks for listening to us.
So then we go to Jeff with one county

2080
02:51:37,600 --> 02:51:42,720
connected communities talking about
connecting and serving a geographically

2081
02:51:41,120 --> 02:51:46,800
diverse county.
>> Yeah. [clears throat] Uh you know I

2082
02:51:45,439 --> 02:51:51,040
don't I'm not going to have a lot of
slides period. The one slide that I

2083
02:51:48,960 --> 02:51:55,920
would suggest adding is the list of
communities that are in water county. I

2084
02:51:52,800 --> 02:52:00,319
think there's 14 maybe 15 if uh if you
count BBtown as an unincorporated

2085
02:51:58,240 --> 02:52:06,479
community. Uh but I'm just going to
basically come out and

2086
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:10,319
» come out and u uh just just explain I
guess Ottawa County how the supervisors

2087
02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:14,399
interact with you know the different
residents and businesses in Baltimore

2088
02:52:13,120 --> 02:52:18,399
County and you know there's a whole
plethora of ways that we do that. Uh,

2089
02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:22,560
one of the things that I was amazed at
when I first got on the board was the

2090
02:52:20,560 --> 02:52:27,120
the number of
organizations [clears throat]

2091
02:52:23,359 --> 02:52:32,319
and and u and uh those kinds of things
that that we were asked all of us were

2092
02:52:28,880 --> 02:52:38,640
asked to sit on and you know counseling
governing boards for instance you know

2093
02:52:35,120 --> 02:52:42,880
or whatever uh observers uh you know
there's there's [clears throat] a whole

2094
02:52:39,439 --> 02:52:48,880
plethora of those uh those uh agencies
that were in and asked to get involved.

2095
02:52:46,240 --> 02:52:54,960
with and also um you know the residents
come into the to the courthouse and and

2096
02:52:51,439 --> 02:52:58,399
uh do presentations before the board and
that's another thing that you know I was

2097
02:52:56,560 --> 02:53:06,560
going to be mentioning uh as a way to
interact. Um also um the different uh

2098
02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:12,880
departments and that we have that uh uh
that that go out into the county. Uh,

2099
02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:17,840
one of them is our uh, veterans services
organization, you know, that service all

2100
02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:22,080
the uh, military veterans in Baltimore
County and get them involved, get them

2101
02:53:20,080 --> 02:53:28,000
registered, uh, you know, whatever
services that that they uh, they have

2102
02:53:24,399 --> 02:53:34,160
coming to them. Uh also uh different
ways that we interact uh our elections

2103
02:53:30,960 --> 02:53:38,720
office, you know, we got 40 different
precincts in Pawatami County and uh we

2104
02:53:37,200 --> 02:53:44,560
we
do the do the ballot counting for all of

2105
02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:48,080
those precincts. Uh so that's that's
basically touching base with the with

2106
02:53:46,560 --> 02:53:55,439
the
people who are voters in order county.

2107
02:53:51,200 --> 02:54:00,720
uh the waterway um
linkage whatever you know introducing uh

2108
02:53:58,880 --> 02:54:05,920
the different things are going on in the
county you know to to the rest of us in

2109
02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:10,560
the county that might not know uh what's
happening in trainer Iowa hudoo days or

2110
02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:16,160
whatever you know I mean just an
interaction

2111
02:54:12,080 --> 02:54:23,920
take out those those things and um I'm g
say it again no there's a I mean are you

2112
02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:30,120
okay with with as as a few uh
slides as possible.

2113
02:54:25,600 --> 02:54:30,120
» Yeah, I think that's fine. Um

2114
02:54:30,399 --> 02:54:36,880
» we had talked a little bit about the
funding not including that including

2115
02:54:34,800 --> 02:54:39,120
that. Um so I don't know if you wanted
to talk to the group about that to get

2116
02:54:38,479 --> 02:54:44,880
their thoughts.
>> I was just mentioning the the funding.

2117
02:54:42,240 --> 02:54:47,840
Uh I'm going to say you recommended we
not mentioned that. I I would

2118
02:54:46,399 --> 02:54:52,319
» at least not the specific dollar amounts
would be my opinion.

2119
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:56,560
» But but how
whatever businesses or whatever

2120
02:54:53,840 --> 02:54:59,840
charities come to before the board, you
know, they're they're out in the county.

2121
02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:04,800
They come before the board, do their
presentation, and then you find a way to

2122
02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:11,200
respond. Uh sometimes that's, you know,
a dollar donation or dollar, you know,

2123
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:14,000
financial assistance, which is great. Uh
I I think it'd be worth mentioning

2124
02:55:12,880 --> 02:55:17,840
yourself.
>> Maybe use the word nonprofit

2125
02:55:16,880 --> 02:55:22,640
instead of
>> Well, I there's there's a whole there's

2126
02:55:20,160 --> 02:55:27,520
always there's a list. Um you do you
have that?

2127
02:55:23,680 --> 02:55:34,479
» Yeah, my computer is dead. Um but it was
uh Swida Sco um I don't know that if

2128
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:37,040
Wida was on the list or not. Um Pace was
on there. That was one of the things

2129
02:55:36,479 --> 02:55:40,319
that was
>> I was gonna

2130
02:55:38,479 --> 02:55:45,439
» since I'm on those boards I was going to
do

2131
02:55:41,840 --> 02:55:48,319
that's on my other notes I didn't
>> um it's not in the slides yet because I

2132
02:55:46,960 --> 02:55:54,800
want that was one that I wanted us to
talk about as a group to get thoughts on

2133
02:55:51,359 --> 02:55:57,800
how to include that or what to include.
Um,

2134
02:55:59,680 --> 02:56:07,760
» uh, yeah, I've got a list of of
the agencies. I was going to mention

2135
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:12,960
veteran services, the Council of Gloss
Conservation and Visitors Bureau, uh,

2136
02:56:09,920 --> 02:56:19,279
the Pond County Elections Office, uh,
Recorders Traveling Office hours, and

2137
02:56:15,279 --> 02:56:23,840
911 operations, which all has to deal
with Ottawa Countyy's big county. That's

2138
02:56:21,760 --> 02:56:29,439
what kind of the theme I was going on.
you know, how do we get out into the

2139
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:32,560
county uh with uh with services and and
whatever needs to be attended to for

2140
02:56:31,359 --> 02:56:36,160
county residents and our county
business.

2141
02:56:33,520 --> 02:56:41,359
» Then also I was going to mention uh
public hearings. You know, the county

2142
02:56:38,319 --> 02:56:45,439
has been out or the county supervisors
have been out into the county to do town

2143
02:56:43,359 --> 02:56:50,240
hall meetings.
Big one was of course the windmill

2144
02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:55,760
issue. you know, we went out and did uh
did uh town hall meetings and you know,

2145
02:56:53,359 --> 02:56:59,520
kind of getting people's feedback, you
know, and which is which I think is a

2146
02:56:58,399 --> 02:57:02,560
great way to
>> Thanks, Kristen.

2147
02:57:01,520 --> 02:57:05,840
» And uh
>> Oh, I thought you were leaving.

2148
02:57:04,080 --> 02:57:11,279
» And so that and and so that's where I
was I was just going to have an open

2149
02:57:07,120 --> 02:57:17,439
discussion of how we interact with our
with our county residents and our fans

2150
02:57:13,439 --> 02:57:22,960
that seem like a workable workable plan.
>> Yeah. And I want to get this group's

2151
02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:26,720
opinion as well because I've seen the
list of organizations and everything,

2152
02:57:24,880 --> 02:57:31,240
but I want to make sure that everyone
else up here is on board as well.

2153
02:57:32,319 --> 02:57:38,960
» Are you mentioning Southwest Iowa and
Wida

2154
02:57:36,319 --> 02:57:41,680
» as my section? No, I think
>> Okay. Because that was one of the

2155
02:57:40,399 --> 02:57:44,560
things. Are you
>> No, I think that falls into Jeff's

2156
02:57:43,680 --> 02:57:50,479
category.
>> Okay. I was trying to steer clear, but

2157
02:57:46,560 --> 02:57:54,640
it could be in mine also.
>> Well, I just I just mentioned it as as

2158
02:57:53,120 --> 02:57:58,319
you know.
>> I think Advanced Southwest Iowa very

2159
02:57:56,479 --> 02:58:03,680
much does still fit into yours
specifically in terms of growth. Um

2160
02:58:01,279 --> 02:58:07,680
that's their whole mission especially in
terms of the rural part of the county.

2161
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:11,359
So I would not not mention them and same
with Wida obviously as the rural

2162
02:58:09,439 --> 02:58:14,479
chamber. Uh I think that's very
important for you to include. Yes. those

2163
02:58:13,279 --> 02:58:20,880
two specifically
>> and then with unleash CB and Pawatami

2164
02:58:17,520 --> 02:58:23,840
County Tourism I'm also on those
and I

2165
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:27,040
» le I think it's less about whether
you're on the board and whether it

2166
02:58:25,359 --> 02:58:30,160
connects back to growth.
>> Okay.

2167
02:58:28,640 --> 02:58:35,120
» I was going to mention that because
again it's an interaction

2168
02:58:31,359 --> 02:58:37,120
» then I'll do advance southwest Iowa.
>> Yeah.

2169
02:58:35,520 --> 02:58:40,880
» Yeah. And again that's where I think
it's okay because you're reinforcing

2170
02:58:38,800 --> 02:58:44,240
something and you're talking about it
from a growth angle. You're talking

2171
02:58:42,399 --> 02:58:48,000
about it from a we're a big county.
We're geographically spread out. We need

2172
02:58:46,319 --> 02:58:51,600
these organizations and that's why the
county engages with them is because they

2173
02:58:49,760 --> 02:58:54,319
help support the work that the county is
wants to do and that the county believes

2174
02:58:53,600 --> 02:58:59,840
in.
>> I know I know 911's part of the

2175
02:58:56,399 --> 02:59:05,520
sheriff's department, but 911 and they
they are in contact with all the fire

2176
02:59:02,800 --> 02:59:10,240
and rescue uh operations that are out
there. uh and they got contact

2177
02:59:08,160 --> 02:59:15,279
information, contact numbers, you know,
they know who they know who to call if

2178
02:59:13,359 --> 02:59:20,960
something is going on out there. And
that again, that's an interaction with

2179
02:59:16,960 --> 02:59:23,520
the county and residents of counties.
>> You have all this written down

2180
02:59:22,160 --> 02:59:30,289
somewhere, Jeff,
>> in my mind. I I I took I took uh uh

2181
02:59:26,960 --> 02:59:33,439
Brian's suggestion. I said, "Wing it,
[laughter]

2182
02:59:32,000 --> 02:59:37,279
» but you got to write something down."
>> Well, yeah. Well, I'm gonna have notes.

2183
02:59:34,960 --> 02:59:40,399
I mean, uh, you know, I I I'm just going
to go up there. Just

2184
02:59:38,800 --> 02:59:46,240
» The other thing I wanted to ask about
was wind and [clears throat]

2185
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:48,160
data centers.
>> You want me to give you some help with

2186
02:59:47,439 --> 02:59:51,680
that?
>> Do we mention it or not?

2187
02:59:49,520 --> 02:59:55,760
» No, it's going to be a question though.
With with data centers,

2188
02:59:54,160 --> 02:59:57,840
um, they are not permitted in this
county.

2189
02:59:56,080 --> 02:59:59,840
» I got that. All you have to say, but I
haven't

2190
02:59:58,479 --> 03:00:01,760
» Don't say anything else.
>> Okay.

2191
03:00:00,160 --> 03:00:07,279
» Well, there's a second part to that.
There are absolutely no projects slated

2192
03:00:04,800 --> 03:00:13,040
for the county.
And then if they ask about when you we

2193
03:00:10,640 --> 03:00:17,120
have an ordinance
that um

2194
03:00:15,520 --> 03:00:21,880
» determines
where a wind farm can be located.

2195
03:00:22,560 --> 03:00:26,399
» I just want to touch on it briefly.
>> I wouldn't even touch on it unless they

2196
03:00:25,520 --> 03:00:30,080
ask a question.
>> Okay. That's why I wanted to ask

2197
03:00:29,120 --> 03:00:34,479
» they're going to answer. would be
prepared that if that question arises

2198
03:00:31,760 --> 03:00:36,499
that you will be the one who answers it.
[laughter]

2199
03:00:38,240 --> 03:00:45,279
» If you bring it up, they're going to
say, "Well, Brian, what about what about

2200
03:00:41,200 --> 03:00:48,880
the aquafer and what about our water?"
Then you're getting a then you're

2201
03:00:46,399 --> 03:00:55,920
getting a pissing match with a skunk
lose. am going and I won't be there yet,

2202
03:00:53,840 --> 03:01:00,240
but
I leave

2203
03:00:57,200 --> 03:01:06,439
» but Texas for that symposium
and everything I've been reading they're

2204
03:01:02,000 --> 03:01:06,439
really going to the closed loop cooling

2205
03:01:06,479 --> 03:01:10,279
minimizing water.

2206
03:01:10,960 --> 03:01:18,399
» Okay, Kate, what's in your section?
>> Um, so my section is the informed and

2207
03:01:15,439 --> 03:01:21,840
engaged community. Uh, I focus on I
still have a couple slides that I need

2208
03:01:19,600 --> 03:01:26,479
to add in to mine, but the first one
being that we obviously want to make

2209
03:01:24,319 --> 03:01:30,399
county government understandable and
accessible. That's part of why we do

2210
03:01:28,640 --> 03:01:35,359
presentations like this and events like
this. Um, and then the main bulk of my

2211
03:01:33,200 --> 03:01:40,880
presentation. Um, and you can click
ahead at least. Yeah, this one is about

2212
03:01:38,160 --> 03:01:46,080
six key ways that residents um, and
citizens can engage with the county. Um,

2213
03:01:43,520 --> 03:01:51,120
I walk through examples of all six of
these. Um, my thought is to add in a few

2214
03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:55,279
photo examples of what these kind of
look like in action. Um, I kind of

2215
03:01:53,520 --> 03:01:57,920
talked through my notes about this
section last week, so I don't

2216
03:01:56,479 --> 03:02:01,680
necessarily feel like I need to fully
repeat it because not a lot has changed

2217
03:01:59,279 --> 03:02:05,760
here. Um, but then the last slide that
I'll put in is that we're not just

2218
03:02:03,760 --> 03:02:09,680
pushing it out onto the citizens. We
know that the county has responsibility

2219
03:02:07,439 --> 03:02:14,399
in all of this as well and that we want
to make it accessible, understandable.

2220
03:02:12,319 --> 03:02:18,399
We strive to use plain language whenever
possible. We try to get out into the

2221
03:02:16,640 --> 03:02:22,720
county. We know it's a big county and
kind of again reinforcing some of the

2222
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:28,640
things that all of you have said. Um and
that ultimately we want it to be a

2223
03:02:25,600 --> 03:02:32,160
two-way conversation and that one of the
first ways that we can do that is to

2224
03:02:30,560 --> 03:02:36,640
answer any questions that they have and
then we just tee it straight into

2225
03:02:33,520 --> 03:02:42,000
questions after my section. Um, and then
my plan during questions is to try and

2226
03:02:39,920 --> 03:02:46,479
as much as possible direct them to
whichever one of you is best suited to

2227
03:02:44,560 --> 03:02:51,200
answer that question. Uh, I'm going to
rely on hopefully you all giving me a

2228
03:02:48,560 --> 03:02:55,920
little bit of verbal cue or some sort of
inclination that this is a question that

2229
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:59,760
you're ready and willing to respond to.
Obviously, if relates directly to

2230
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:04,319
information that you presented, I'm
going to assume that that's going to be

2231
03:03:01,680 --> 03:03:08,960
a question that will fall to you. But if
it's something that we did not address

2232
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:14,080
like the wind or data centers, then
having a bit of a plan is helpful. Um,

2233
03:03:11,840 --> 03:03:18,399
are there any other kind of hot button
topics, questions that any of you

2234
03:03:16,080 --> 03:03:21,800
anticipate or think we should be
prepared for?

2235
03:03:23,600 --> 03:03:30,080
» Probably property taxes. Somebody might
come up with a

2236
03:03:27,600 --> 03:03:33,840
» valuations. Valuation might be a big
one.

2237
03:03:30,399 --> 03:03:37,200
» That that would be a big deal.
What are you going to say if they ask

2238
03:03:35,040 --> 03:03:42,160
that, Brian?
>> I'm going to say that the board of

2239
03:03:38,560 --> 03:03:48,080
supervisors only has control of the levy
and that the assessor does that with per

2240
03:03:46,399 --> 03:03:52,319
state code.
>> Sounds good to me.

2241
03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:58,560
» And they have to do it every two years.
And if they don't revalue your home,

2242
03:03:55,200 --> 03:04:04,240
they can put a blanket
valuation on all I'm not going to get

2243
03:04:01,840 --> 03:04:09,760
into that, but
>> that's that if they don't do their job,

2244
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:15,040
the state does an equalization order,
>> not the not the assessor.

2245
03:04:11,520 --> 03:04:18,399
» Okay. That's your the state assessor. I
got a question for you. And so, uh, you

2246
03:04:16,960 --> 03:04:23,680
know, I mentioned, for instance, our
veteran services. You know, I I was just

2247
03:04:21,520 --> 03:04:25,840
going to talk about it. Should there be
a slide?

2248
03:04:24,399 --> 03:04:30,880
» Yeah, I have photos of
>> you. You have those photos. Okay.

2249
03:04:29,040 --> 03:04:34,760
So, I don't have to you
>> I'm going to drop that in there.

2250
03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:43,680
» And I And then a list of the of our, you
know, 14 or 15

2251
03:04:41,840 --> 03:04:48,160
uh committee small town
>> the ones. Oh, the cities. Yeah.

2252
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:51,520
» Small towns part list.
>> Do you want that as a list or as a map?

2253
03:04:50,319 --> 03:04:56,000
» I would say list.
>> Okay.

2254
03:04:54,399 --> 03:05:01,840
» Then I'll mention I will just mention a
big part of what we can't hit.

2255
03:04:59,439 --> 03:05:07,520
» Marian, were you gonna ask something?
>> No. No.

2256
03:05:05,120 --> 03:05:12,240
» All right. Anything else?
>> Yeah, we should ordered pizza.

2257
03:05:10,237 --> 03:05:13,920
[laughter]
>> Yeah.

2258
03:05:12,720 --> 03:05:20,040
» Nope. That'll do it.
>> Okay. Hey, thank you.

2259
03:05:15,359 --> 03:05:20,040
» We won't let you down. Thank you.

2260
03:05:22,880 --> 03:05:31,253
» We won't let her.
>> That's Susan.

2261
03:05:29,233 --> 03:05:31,253
[clears throat]

2262
03:05:33,359 --> 03:05:38,000
» He's on his way over to take the rest of
the meeting. I had to go to my therapy

2263
03:05:37,040 --> 03:05:43,040
appointment. So,
>> okay. Thank you.

2264
03:05:40,640 --> 03:05:47,840
This long.
Yep. Am

2265
03:05:45,600 --> 03:05:50,960
I okay to end this?
>> Yes, we are. Going to

2266
03:05:49,200 --> 03:05:55,760
» Well, we have to do it.
>> We up to the point we vote for going in

2267
03:05:54,640 --> 03:05:59,840
close session.
>> They take the vote. You keep it running

2268
03:05:57,840 --> 03:06:02,080
and then once they voted to go into
close session, then you stop the

2269
03:06:01,200 --> 03:06:04,640
recording.
>> Okay. And since we're on recess, I'm

2270
03:06:03,680 --> 03:06:08,840
going to mute for a little bit.
>> I'm sorry.

2271
03:06:05,359 --> 03:06:08,840
» I'm going to

2272
03:09:49,680 --> 03:09:52,680
Let's

2273
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:06,359
let's get going here.

2274
03:10:07,680 --> 03:10:16,399
one again.
>> I'll make a motion we go into close

2275
03:10:11,680 --> 03:10:22,399
session pursuant to Iowa code 21.5
number one pair I for discussion

2276
03:10:20,080 --> 03:10:26,720
andor decision on personnel matters.
>> I'll second that motion.

2277
03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:32,080
» Chairman Shay
>> I supervisor Jorgensson. Hi. Supervisor

2278
03:10:29,520 --> 03:10:36,120
Jones. Hi. Supervisor Miller. Hi.
Supervisor. Hi.