[0:08] Will you please stand and say the pledge
with us
[0:14] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[0:20] stands. One nation under God,
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:26] all.
[0:29] The record show members are present.
They got to read a public comment policy
[0:36] statement. If there's anybody from the
public that wants to make a comment to
[0:40] the board, they will need to go over to
the table over here and read the script
[0:46] and then fill out the form and make to
make a public comment. At the beginning
[0:51] of the meeting, we will reserve about 30
minutes for public comments, but you
[0:55] only get three minutes to speak on your
topic. The board will not respond.
[1:00] [clears throat]
>> Okay, everybody, look the consent agenda
[1:03] over.
>> I'll make the motion to approve the
[1:07] consent agenda.
>> Thank you. I'll second.
[1:15] » A motion by Miller, a second by
Jorgensson to approve the consent
[1:18] agenda. All in favor signify by saying
I.
[1:22] » I.
>> Those opposed? Motion carried.
[1:26] We got any public comments?
>> Not that I'm aware of.
[1:30] » I think there's some Yep.
[1:35] » Okay. Hold on. We'll bring that over.
Need to state your name and your
[1:41] address.
>> Okay.
[1:46] side.
>> Okay.
[1:52] » Go ahead.
>> Oh, yes. I'm here on behalf of
[1:56] speaking on behalf of Overland Mobile
Home Park and um
[2:03] we're having a lot of problems down
there. They're giving us new leases.
[2:06] They're trying to take our trailers away
from us. Um and my neighbor and I are
[2:10] disputed about property line and there's
never been any property line
[2:13] established. So, I'm looking something
like I call city and stuff, but nobody
[2:19] ever will come in and do property
lighting for us. So, and they tell me I
[2:23] can't use my back door and be able to
close my back door.
[2:27] » Is [snorts] that the one on South 24th
Street?
[2:30] » Right up um by Griffin Pipe. when you
pass right there.
[2:34] » Okay.
>> There's a letter Charles that
[2:40] » and that would be
>> a city issue is what that is,
[2:44] » right?
>> Okay. So, there's nothing we could we
[2:48] could do within the city.
>> Okay. So, this the city would be this.
[2:53] » Speak louder. You need you need to go to
the city council or or the mayor.
[2:58] » Okay.
>> Community development. I think you want
[3:01] to start a community development.
>> Community
[3:03] » community development office is in the
downstairs of city hall.
[3:06] » Okay.
Okay.
[3:09] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
[3:10] » Thank you.
>> Anybody else?
[3:15] » You don't wish to speak?
>> No, because
[3:18] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Well,
[3:20] » thanks for coming in. Thank you. Thank
you.
[3:24] » Next up, we got any new hires in here?
>> We do. Okay. Maria,
[3:31] » I want to introduce Brian. Brian comes
to public health with um over 20 years
[3:37] of experience and a considerable amount
from Douglas County Health Department.
[3:42] So, he has uh been with us a week and
we're getting him rolling on new
[3:46] projects and we're very excited to have
him.
[3:49] » Good deal. Welcome. Welcome aboard.
>> Happy to be here.
[3:53] » Thank you for coming in.
>> Thank you.
[3:55] » Nice to meet you, Brian.
>> Likewise. Got a good team over there.
[3:59] » Absolutely.
>> Okay, questions, comments.
[4:04] Thank you for coming in, Brian.
>> Thank you. Thanks, Maria.
[4:07] » Thank you.
>> We also have a new attorney in our
[4:11] office. This is Zach Joyce. Uh he will
be a criminal attorney um starting
[4:16] misdemeanors.
He just passed the bar. So, we're really
[4:21] excited to have him on.
He was an intern in our office for two
[4:25] different semesters. So, he already has
some good experience with uh with our
[4:30] office and he's proved to be an asset
already.
[4:34] » Welcome.
>> Thank you.
[4:36] » Yeah. Any questions, comments?
>> Forward to working with you.
[4:43] » Thanks for bringing him in, Kristen.
Appreciate it. Matt
[4:46] » would be here, but he is in trial today.
So, okay.
[4:53] Okay, first up, Matt Wyatt, director of
planning and development. Public hearing
[4:57] on proposed second amendment development
amended development agreement
[5:04] with JJHP
LLC
[5:08] and discussion and/or decision to
approve and authorize the board to sign
[5:13] resolution number 57-2026
entitled resolution approving second
[5:19] amendment amended development agreement
with JHP
[5:24] LLC.
Motion to go into
[5:29] » I'll make the motion to go into public
hearing.
[5:32] » I'll second it.
[5:36] » By Miller, second by Jorgensson to go
into public hearing. Maryanne, would you
[5:40] do roll call?
>> Chairman Shay
[5:41] » I.
>> Supervisor Miller.
[5:43] » I.
>> Supervisor Wickman.
[5:45] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Jones.
[5:46] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Jurgensson.
[5:48] » Hi.
So, for the past six years, we've been
[5:52] working with Mark, uh, John and Jason on
Legacy Ridge development on this. And,
[5:58] um, we're like, we've heard a little bit
of conversation beforehand. You know,
[6:02] they're getting ready for the roads to
be paved in there. and along with uh
[6:08] their recent milestones of where they're
at and the tiff law changes that have
[6:12] happened at the state, the development
agreement was amended to meet the terms
[6:16] that we previously talked about where
it's 15 years uh up to $5 million
[6:24] on there.
[6:29] They'll receive two payments per year
from the county. Um,
[6:35] » that really depends on how fast they
build out. Correct.
[6:39] » Correct. The time frame does depend on
that. Now that we're not having to hold
[6:42] back the LMI funding anymore, it's not
even allow. And just to make clear with
[6:47] everybody, it's not even an allowable
hold back anymore. So that frees up on
[6:52] the Pawani County side of it, it frees
up 46%
[6:55] of what the payments would have been.
So, they will their payback as long as
[7:01] they're building out the subdivision
fast enough, then their payback will be
[7:05] faster. And I would assume that it would
probably be quicker than the 15-year
[7:08] timeline that we have stated
[clears throat] in here.
[7:11] » And the total number of lots
88. First phase is 41. That's what we're
[7:18] working on right now.
[7:24] We're on a public hearing.
>> Is there
[7:28] anybody want to speak in favor of this?
[7:35] Does anybody want to speak against this?
[7:42] » Open for a motion.
>> I'll move close public hearing. I'll
[7:46] second the motion.
Motion by Wickman, a second by Jones to
[7:52] close public hearing. Would you do a
roll call, please?
[7:57] » Chairman Shay.
>> Hi.
[7:58] » Supervisor Jones.
>> Hi.
[8:00] » Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi.
[8:01] » Supervisor Miller.
>> Hi.
[8:03] » Supervisor Wig.
>> Hi.
[8:06] » I really appreciate all you do.
[8:10] Rolling housing.
[clears throat]
[8:14] Thank you.
I'll make the motion that we pass
[8:17] resolution number 57-2026.
[8:22] I'll second that for discussion.
>> Thank you. Motion by Jones, second by
[8:26] Wickman to approve resolution 57-2026.
[8:32] » Um Mark, you're still planning curb and
gutter on all those
[8:35] » Yes, sir.
>> roads, right?
[8:37] » Yep. Uh driver's almost done with all of
the installation of the source sewer in
[8:42] construction.
Have you um
[8:47] you have a contractor for the roads?
>> Yes, we're using Compass Utilities.
[8:52] » Sweet. Um
I'm sure you you know, especially
[8:57] listening to Matt, there's no LMI on
that anymore.
[9:01] » Understood. Um [clears throat]
[9:06] can we ex can we expect that to get paid
off before the 15 years? stemming demand
[9:13] meets our expectations. I mean, it's a
difficult thing for us to predict
[9:17] exactly how fast the lots will sell and
the homes will be built, but we do have
[9:23] uh some guidelines in the covenants that
require a lot owner to commence
[9:28] construction within 18 months of
purchasing the lot. So, and no longer
[9:32] than 12 months to complete construction.
So, that at least puts a leash, you
[9:37] know, prevents anybody from buying a lot
and just sitting on it. Uh we have quite
[9:43] a few people reaching out asking for
updates on when they'll be able to buy
[9:46] lots. Just trying to uh finalize
everything before we make any
[9:51] commitments and guarantees to everybody.
I think we'll be ready to
[9:55] [clears throat] set pricing and take
reservations here within the next 45 to
[9:59] 60 days.
>> Uh last question. Phase one you said was
[10:03] 41 lots.
>> Yes. Um, how many of those need to be
[10:08] spoken for or built on before you start
phase two?
[10:13] » I think it would be more an analysis of
just the absorption rate. You know, we
[10:18] want we don't want to run out of lots,
you know, but if if we're clipping them
[10:22] out fast, we'll probably pay the the
next culde-sac, you know, fairly
[10:27] promptly. We we are putting in the water
infrastructure for second phase actually
[10:33] during phase one construction. So, all
we'll have to do for phase two is the
[10:37] paving. Um, but yeah, if we've got
strong demand, we'll we'll put that out
[10:43] for a bit probably, you know.
>> Do we inspect that process, the road
[10:49] process, Andy, compaction, all that
stuff?
[10:52] » So, the developer pays a consultant to
do that and then we review the the
[10:58] consultants reports. So we are not boots
on the ground but the developer pays a
[11:03] consultant to handle inspection and then
we get that and yeah we are in monthly
[11:08] correspondence [clears throat] with with
our consultant.
[11:11] » Good
engineering overseeing the project and
[11:15] then we've got geotech contracted for
doing the
[11:19] » perfect
other questions comments.
[11:27] » Would you do a roll call? Marriott.
>> Chairman Shay.
[11:30] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Jorgensson.
[11:32] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Miller.
[11:33] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Wickman.
[11:35] » Hi.
>> Supervisor Jones.
[11:36] » Hi.
>> I like the names of the roads you've got
[11:40] on there, too.
>> They're named after my children and
[11:44] Jason.
>> I figured that.
[11:46] » Awesome. I mean, I like it.
Well, thank you all for your support.
[11:50] Legacy
long long coming, but yep, we're
[11:55] excited. Excellent.
Thanks Mark. Thanks.
[12:00] » Thank you very much.
>> Okay. Next up, Maryanne Hanusa, auditor.
[12:04] Discussion on her decision to approve
and sign proclamation
[12:09] designating the week of September 7th to
11th as National Payroll Week. See
[12:34] Thank you.
Ryan, I'll make the motion that we
[12:39] approve proclamation
um for National Payroll Week September
[12:45] 7th through the 11th 26. I'll second.
[12:54] » Got a motion by Miller, [clears throat]
a second by Jorgensson to approve
[12:59] proclamation
national payroll week. Maryanne,
[13:04] » uh, Chairman Shay,
>> hi.
[13:06] » Supervisor Miller.
>> I,
[13:08] » Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi,
[13:09] » Supervisor Jones. Hi,
>> Supervisor Wickham. Okay,
[13:14] agree.
>> Proclamation naming payroll week
[13:17] September 7th through 11th, 2026.
Whereas payroll professionals play a
[13:23] vital role in ensuring employees are
paid accurately and on time while
[13:28] maintaining compliance with federal,
state, and local laws and regulations.
[13:32] And whereas Padawani County payroll
professionals contribute significantly
[13:37] to the financial well-being of employees
and their families by ensuring the
[13:42] accurate and timely payment of wages,
benefits, taxes, and other deductions
[13:47] for over 500 employees. And whereas
payroll professionals serve as an
[13:52] important connection between employees
and employers and work diligently behind
[13:56] the scenes to support the effective
operation of organizations and public
[14:01] services.
And whereas National Payroll Week
[14:04] recognizes the dedication, knowledge,
professionalism, and commitment of
[14:09] payroll professionals and celebrates the
important role they play in our
[14:13] workforce and communities. And whereas
the 2026 National Payroll Week theme,
[14:20] every paycheck creates possibility,
recognizes that each paycheck helps
[14:25] employees meet their daily needs, plan
for the future, and pursue personal and
[14:30] financial goals.
Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the
[14:34] Podawani County Board of Supervisors
hereby recognizes September 7th through
[14:39] the 11th, 2026 as National Payroll Week
in Padawani County and extends its
[14:45] appreciation to the payroll
professionals who work diligently to
[14:49] ensure county employees are paid
accurately, timely, and in accordance
[14:53] with applicable laws and policies. Dated
this 8th day of September, 2026.
[15:02] And I believe we have we have some
payroll professionally.
[15:07] » Kelly and Angie head up our payroll
department for the county, an office
[15:11] that I think everybody here is
interested in because everybody likes to
[15:14] receive their paycheck on which uh they
do through the hard work, diligence, and
[15:21] untiring work of these people.
>> And um some of you have seen it
[15:26] firsthand. Some of you only know that
you get to cash your check. But um
[15:30] deposit your check, whatever. But um
thank you. Thank you both Kelly and
[15:37] Angie for your hard work.
>> Everybody loves you. Everybody's
[15:42] very relevant.
[laughter]
[15:46] » You don't have to.
[15:49] And and you work closely with payroll
administrators from the sheriff's office
[15:56] and roads and it takes a team to keep
track of everything.
[16:02] » Thank you, Maryanne.
>> Where do you want me? I I get off your
[16:06] symmetry here. [laughter]
Oh, wait a minute. Badge.
[16:18] All right.
Thank you.
[16:27] » Susan, thank you. Thanks.
>> Congratulations.
[16:33] [clears throat]
>> Oh, they're gonna go do payroll.
[16:40] » Where's that proclamation?
>> Okay. They're they're uh they're
[16:45] obviously very important people. Wait,
Kelly, Angie,
[16:48] » come back,
>> but professional.
[16:55] » Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you
very much.
[16:58] » Thank you. That was good.
[17:06] » Yay.
[17:10] Main director planning development
discussion under decision to approve
[17:14] roof replacement proposal from West
Central Roofing for the recycling center
[17:19] northern building.
[17:24] » Yes. Uh this year our building that's on
the north side of the property houses
[17:30] our compactor
um and our plastic storage along with
[17:36] our little maintenance room for the
minor equipment that we have out there.
[17:41] Uh the roof is in need of replacement.
It has some old skylights on it that
[17:45] need to come out and have some metal put
down on them. And then we would like to
[17:49] have the roof recotated like we did our
building that is runs the east side of
[17:56] the property on there. These buildings
are a little bit unique in shape and
[17:59] design for those that who've been out
there to see it. The guttering system is
[18:04] actually built into and sits on top of
the exterior walls. So they're bit it's
[18:08] not like a normal pull your metal off,
put new metal on, you got a new roof
[18:12] type of system. um West Central was able
to come up with a design that coats the
[18:18] building and then runs down into the
[clears throat] gutters to ensure that
[18:21] we don't have any continuing leaks on
the there on the property. So, um and
[18:27] the it's not a funding request. I'm not
asking for that. The funds were already
[18:30] budgeted for. It's just it's it's a
large expense. I wanted to make sure
[18:34] that I got the board's approval before
we move forward with it.
[18:37] » Matt, how old is that building?
>> 1980s.
[18:44] seen those gutters before and you just
always thought that was an odd
[18:50] replacement odd system, you know.
>> So, um Brian, I'll make the motion to
[18:56] approve the roof replacement proposal
from West Central Roofing for the
[19:01] recycling center's northern building in
the amount of $45,100.
[19:07] » I'll second the motion.
Uh Matt [clears throat]
[19:13] the I take it this is in your budget,
>> correct?
[19:16] » Um would you would you do the board a
favor when you have another project like
[19:21] this come to us so maybe we could fund
it out of gaming instead of
[19:26] um budgeting taxing for it?
Yes, I can. On the recycle center is
[19:32] where we have the the general fund line
item for the recycle center
[19:38] and a portion of those funds each year
go to the city of council bluffs for our
[19:44] household hazardous program and then the
other portion of the remaining funds we
[19:51] have been utilizing for capital expenses
out there like funding new recycle
[19:55] trailers. Um, the roof is just an online
item that we've used that way in the
[20:01] past. But yes, I can certainly do that
[20:07] » questions, comments. No.
Got a motion by Miller, a second by
[20:11] Jones to approve the roof replacement
from West Central Roofing Recycling
[20:16] Center. All in favor signify by saying
I. I.
[20:21] » Those opposed. Motion carry. Do you have
a timeline for that?
[20:27] » I believe Tom said they would start in
October.
[20:38] Okay. Matt Wy up again. Discussion under
decision on appointments to the zoning
[20:45] board adjustments.
>> Yes. So, first up, the zoning board of
[20:49] adjustment. Uh unfortunately Karen
Anderson has to step down. She has uh
[20:56] they have moved into town and uh so with
that then we needed to find a
[21:02] replacement for her. We did post it up
on the website. We received some
[21:06] applications in and through that
application process. Uh Angela Lipert
[21:11] came in and interviewed with us and
she's attended a couple of different
[21:14] meetings now to uh familiarize herself
with the board. She's been looking for a
[21:19] way to be more involved in the community
and serving on a spot like this. Uh so I
[21:25] think she has a uh she comes from a real
estate background. Karen was a real
[21:28] estate background. Uh so I think we're
it'll be a good swap for us. So Angela's
[21:35] first appointment on that then would be
to fulfill Karen's term. Karen's term
[21:40] currently ends on December 31st of 2027.
[21:46] » I'll move that for you, Matt. a second.
[22:02] Motion by Wickman, a second by
Jorgensson
[22:05] to approve Angela Liippard
to the zoning board of adjustment. All
[22:12] in favor signify by saying I. I. Those
opposed? Motion carried.
[22:18] » Is that L I P E R T?
>> Yes.
[22:25] » Okay.
Next up, Matt, you're up again. And we
[22:30] have a an appointment to the Board of
Appeals.
[22:35] And you
>> This will be for Tom Hol, Thomas Holm to
[22:39] the Board of Appeals.
And this would be for a term that would
[22:43] end on 1231
of 30. We have been we had been looking
[22:48] for uh plumbing background uh for the
board of appeals for some time now since
[22:54] uh Jim Sever stepped down from that. The
board of appeals is one that you don't
[22:59] hear of often. It's met one time in the
14 years that we've had building codes.
[23:05] So it's it's not a widely utilized
board, but it is a board that because we
[23:09] have building codes established and
permitting process that we have to have
[23:13] appointed in case somebody were to come
want to use it. It's not a board that
[23:16] people can go to to have uh code
varianced or overridden by them. It is
[23:24] merely, we'll just utilize plumbing as
an example of this. If somebody were to
[23:29] come in and they had a new technology
that they felt met the building code in
[23:34] in the plumbing code for its use, but it
had not been recognized um locally yet,
[23:41] then they could bring it before the
board of appeals and say, you know, they
[23:45] would like to utilize this technology
and this construction method and the
[23:49] board of appeals would be the ones who
would say, "Yeah, that's okay. You can
[23:52] you're okay to use that."
>> Do you remember what the one time was?
[23:56] The one time we met was actually for an
organizational meeting just to bring
[23:59] everybody together and talk about what
the board of appeals was and and why we
[24:03] were uh putting it together. So,
>> okay.
[24:06] » But Tom has an extensive background in
plumbing. Um I think, you know, he'll be
[24:11] a really great addition to the board. He
has kind of retired out from, I believe,
[24:16] doing the day-to-day plumbing. He's
doing some instructing and keeps himself
[24:20] active in that way. So, he stays up to
date on all the latest codes and things
[24:24] that are going on. Okay. I'll make the
motion that we appoint Tom Holm to the
[24:28] board of appeals.
>> I'll second that.
[24:32] » Matt, how many, if I can, how many
people serve on that?
[24:36] » Five.
>> Okay. You have to have a plumber,
[24:39] electrician, and a
HBAC person.
[24:44] » Yeah. Architecture and engineer.
>> That's four.
[24:50] What
>> What trades did you say? You have
[24:52] electrical, plumbing,
>> HVSE.
[24:56] electrical plumbing HVAC.
>> Okay. I didn't mean to put you on the
[24:59] spot. I
>> It's listed on the code.
[25:02] » So, he is filling the plumbers.
>> Okay.
[25:07] » And that is HOLM. Correct.
>> Holm. Yes.
[25:13] » Any other questions, comments?
Motion by Jones, second by Jurgensson to
[25:18] approve Thomas Holm to the board of
adjust or a board of appeals. I'm sorry.
[25:25] And uh all in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Those opposed. Motion carried.
[25:33] Thanks.
>> And that's for a term ending December 20
[25:36] 30
[25:40] » and the previous one was 27.
>> 27.
[25:43] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Mhm.
[25:46] » Thank you.
>> Yes.
[25:49] » Next up, Andy Wix, engineer. discussion
in our decision on funding for one-time
[25:54] road improvements for fiscal year 27.
Hi Andy, how's it going?
[26:03] » Hey, it's a good day. So,
um, we met a handful of times this past
[26:11] year talking about several different
locations to improve roads to spur on
[26:15] residential development. And the four we
ended up getting approval for were 400th
[26:20] Street just south of Carson, 240th
Street just south of Highway 92, 245th
[26:27] and additionally Hackberry near Westfair
and then Juniper Road. Um,
[26:36] however, oh, so we just finished 400th
Street. Um, we put asphalt down our HMA
[26:42] and so far good feedback from the
residents, but we got the invoice and I
[26:48] sent it to Stevie and Stevie said, "What
do you want me to do with it?" So, um,
[26:55] we wanted to come before the board and
get confirmation on where we would be
[26:59] paying for these roadway improvements. I
was under the impression that the board
[27:04] had um put aside money um in the general
fund to pay for these onetime roadway
[27:11] improvements one time.
>> That's what we agreed upon.
[27:15] » And I just wanted to get confirmation on
where that money was coming from.
[27:19] » That was that was the reserves.
>> Whose reserves?
[27:25] » The county's reserves. That's what we
talked about with those funds.
[27:29] » No. Um
We we made it part of his five-year road
[27:37] plan
and that those costs were included in
[27:41] his road plan.
>> Um and if uh it said um
[27:47] green green items, I don't know if you
guys probably don't have this, the green
[27:52] items would be excluded from his plan if
funded with planning dollars.
[27:58] I mean, those are our green ones. And
those I I keep all this stuff, Andy. And
[28:04] that included the 400th Street, Silo,
240th Street,
[28:10] um, Hecberry,
[28:14] uh, there was a bunch of them on here.
Jefferson, Climb Kils, Skihill Loop,
[28:21] um 290th Street,
those were all part of your fiveyear
[28:29] road plan
and they were going to come off your
[28:34] plan if it were going to be paid with
planning dollars.
[28:38] » So, yeah, to provide the timeline like
Tim is saying. So in February sat down
[28:44] and went through the my 5-year program
and I had 400 street on secondary roads
[28:51] 5-year program and then we also had
240th uh on the 5-year program. Then um
[28:57] in March we did a study session uh with
Mitch Kai and he determined or he said
[29:05] that we had some extra funds in the
general fund. Um at least that was our
[29:10] recollection. Um
and then
[29:16] in June we sat down and said, "Okay,
these are the four locations, Packberry,
[29:21] 240th, 400, uh and Juniper." And based
off of those four locations, I was still
[29:28] under the impression that we were using
the general fund dollars and not my
[29:32] secondary roads fund because in my
5-year program, the 240th and 400th
[29:38] Street were in years three and four and
not my year one. So even if they would
[29:43] have been funded out of secondary roads
funds, they would not have been out of
[29:47] this fiscal year.
>> Yeah, they were in your fiscal year 27,
[29:53] which is
And while we're in [clears throat] at
[29:57] the beginning of the year when it when
we began the planning sessions for this
[30:01] and the idea was proposed to Andy and I,
it was if you both if we were if the
[30:06] board were to give you two $2 million,
what roads would we pick and do to
[30:11] upgrade those to help spend down the
reserve balance that we had at the time?
[30:16] And so we went about planning together
to put together the different proposals
[30:21] and uh number of times that we came
before the board proposing the ideas.
[30:26] And then we kind of got it when we had
it whittleled down to the final four
[30:29] projects. We were like right at a
million dollars. We're actually we
[30:32] didn't even go with the two million, we
went to $1 million. So, um, and being in
[30:38] the study sessions with Mitch and stuff,
that's what it was always kind of
[30:40] planned to be. It was to spin down the
reserve to do these extra roads spur
[30:44] development on it.
>> That's how I thought we voted on it.
[30:48] » Yeah. Actually, I initiated this whole
thing with Mitch. We had talked at about
[30:52] the time of the radio upgrade that there
was some funds that were left over from
[30:56] diligence from the department heads of
not spending their full budgets for the
[31:00] last couple years. It was about $2
million. I sent an an email to both of
[31:05] you saying, "Could you please identify
some roads that would not only um help
[31:10] the county, but it would spur economic
development." You identified those those
[31:15] four projects. It was 1 million as
opposed to 2 million. And my thought
[31:20] after my talk with Mitch was that was
going to come from reserves.
[31:27] when
when we had the cap five-year cap
[31:31] five-year road plan, those funds were in
his plan, not coming from not coming
[31:37] from the county
um reserves.
[31:44] Uh
I think it's important that uh we um
[31:56] I think all all of us agreed on on those
four locations.
[32:00] » Yep. Um,
I just want to make sure that uh
[32:08] we have
those funds
[32:13] to spend.
And if not, um, how many have we
[32:19] started, Andy? We've started two of the
four. So, we've we've finished Carson,
[32:25] right? Yep. What other one have you
started? 245th and Hackberry.
[32:31] by Westfair.
>> Juniper
[32:35] started Juniper, too.
>> Yeah, we have our staff on Juniper.
[32:39] Correct. So, we have not paid the
contractor on Juniper yet or we have not
[32:44] paid to get the contractor on Juniper,
but my staff has been out there prepping
[32:47] Juniper as well.
>> What's the Hackberry? What's the
[32:50] Hackberry Shield Code cost?
>> Yeah, that
[32:55] » Yes, that will be
[33:00] roughly $200,000.
Okay.
[33:05] Is how about Juniper?
>> That is
[33:12] on on this sheet that I'm looking at.
You have it at $865,000.
[33:18] » That's asphalt costs, right?
>> Yeah. So, seal coat would only be
[33:21] $200,000. What are we doing? Seal coat.
We're looking at 200. Correct. 200 on
[33:27] Juniper, 200 on Hackberry.
[33:32] » What's the other one?
>> 240th Street. Um, however, that's going
[33:37] to be pushed to the spring at a minimum.
The hope was to get to it this fall, but
[33:41] just due to the contractor, we won't be
able to touch that till the spring.
[33:46] And that's $300,000 is what we
identified there.
[33:51] » That works out well for us on a dirt
moving project that's going to
[33:54] potentially happen in that area. We
don't want to ruin a new road.
[33:59] » So, that one won't happen till spring.
Um, if the board decides to add another
[34:08] section of road
and you get that done before it freezes
[34:16] on a seal coat project,
[34:20] I hope to. I depends on what the weather
does. Um
[34:27] the hope is yes that we can do all this
and more. Um but just depends on the
[34:33] contractor's workload. There's only one
contractor in the metro that does
[34:37] this type of seal cutting and
I need to talk to
[34:43] the
>> Did you lose the other contractor out of
[34:46] I think they were out of Harlem, weren't
they?
[34:49] » So we still work with that contractor.
They just only do half the work now.
[34:54] Okay.
>> So, 400 streets done. Is that uh is that
[35:00] budgeted number what you spent?
>> We spent 226,000 and some change. So,
[35:06] just about that 227.
>> Okay.
[35:10] » That's asphalt,
>> correct? That Yeah, that is the only of
[35:13] these four identified projects that is
asphalt.
[35:16] » Do we turn that over to the city at this
point?
[35:22] I believe that's going to be a
conversation between the board.
[35:24] » That's what we talked about to begin
with,
[35:28] » right? We had several different
agreements with Carson on that fact. I
[35:32] think with the number of they've had
some turnover there on staff and elected
[35:36] officials, and I think we'd have we're
going to have to go back out and have
[35:39] that conversation again with them. Yeah.
>> Okay. As we always talked about, once it
[35:44] was done, they're taking it.
>> That's the whole goal of it, right? Is
[35:46] to help those small towns. Yep. Okay.
So, at the at the top of uh the sheet,
[35:53] Matt, that Andy provided it, it says the
items in green would be excluded from
[36:00] the um
five-year plan for roads if funded with
[36:06] planning dollars. How many how much
planning dollars you got?
[36:09] » I believe in the conversations Mitch had
ideas was that the board would funnel
[36:13] some money into planning.
>> Oh, is that how we're doing?
[36:15] » Yeah. To pay for those invoices.
>> Okay.
[36:19] per from reserve discuss.
>> Sorry.
[36:22] » And I and I do
>> this is why I asked Andy to bring this
[36:25] because this is the confusion that I
have when I'm giving directions on where
[36:29] to pay these invoices from. So I've been
hearing different different answers from
[36:37] different people. So I just wanted us
all in the same room to decide how we
[36:42] are funding this. My impression
[clears throat]
[36:45] » was that there were going to be general
fund dollars, part of the 1 million and
[36:51] the extra two million from gaming that
Mitch had set aside to go into the
[36:56] capital improvements fund and to come
out to these other projects. My thought
[37:01] was that these projects were included in
there. However, there was nothing firm
[37:07] ever put down. So, I really would like
us to firm it up today so that we can
[37:12] all be on the same page.
>> Well, the the the capital plan or the
[37:17] capital projects fund
um was
[37:22] bond funds
and
[37:26] um
it came from the cash reserves or the
[37:30] general fund.
>> Yes.
[37:32] » No gaming went in there yet.
>> They have not been transferred into
[37:35] there yet. No. Yeah. But that was the
intent from what my understanding was
[37:41] the intent was that we were going to
move funds in there from gaming and the
[37:45] general fund. The transfers have not yet
been requested.
[37:50] » Fund is where we I thought we'd discuss
that coming from
[37:55] » and unfortunately I wasn't here when
this went with Mitch. So that's why I
[37:59] really need some clarity on the topic.
Ryan and I discussed a little bit about
[38:05] having a uh capital plan discussion at
next week's uh board meeting and I think
[38:11] that's imperative that we have that and
this we can continue this discussion for
[38:16] then for then um if you want to and
have all the projects that we know we
[38:23] have and figure out how we're going to
fund them all. I mean I don't have a
[38:27] problem with with the roads that were
working on sail coding. I just want to
[38:33] make sure we know where the money is
coming from because we really didn't
[38:36] decide any of that and my impression,
my thoughts, initial thoughts and still
[38:42] were my thoughts even today
>> that those projects were in Andy's
[38:48] five-year plan.
>> No.
[38:52] » So, you're saying you you want the money
to come from his
[38:55] » I'm not saying anything, Keith. All I'm
saying that that was my impression of
[38:59] the discussion we had with him. they
were included in his five-year plan. Um,
[39:04] I'm looking at his fiscal year 27
proposed.
[39:09] Um, and
uh,
[39:15] I don't have I was trying to find his he
sent us a uh, I think it was an Excel
[39:22] spreadsheet of each year where the funds
were going from his fiveyear plans. I
[39:31] can't find that. So, I think if you re
if you could resend that to the board,
[39:36] we can take another look at it, figure
out where we're going to go with this.
[39:40] » Yeah, the I can find that Excel
document. The board did approve um in
[39:47] May the 5-year program, and it did have
400 street. I just kept it in the
[39:53] five-year program as um a 2030 project.
um
[40:01] FY 2030, but
>> yeah, the the map Tim is referring to,
[40:06] we talked about March 30th at a a study
session, so it should be in the packet
[40:11] from from then, but obviously I did not
provide that today. So, I can resend
[40:16] that as well.
I think that uh
[40:22] I do remember that discussion and I
think Miss Miller and I spoke that we've
[40:28] been trying to get this project done for
six to eight years and wanted to get
[40:33] that moved up so far as we could um put
some more homes in there. So I think we
[40:39] moved that up if I recall.
>> I think it was you and Brian.
[40:44] » Which specific? 400 Street.
>> Yes. That's that's been going We've been
[40:50] talking about that forever.
>> Yeah.
[40:52] » And then transferring it to the city.
>> I don't want to go through the emails
[40:56] right now, but I was the one that
initiated all of this.
[40:58] » Well, I I remember the email.
>> Okay. And it was definitely based on
[41:04] excess reserve money. That's where the
money came from. Now, I understand your
[41:08] point. We have a big expense coming up
when it comes to the replacement of the
[41:12] jail HVAC system. Um
I I I don't want to raid his money to
[41:19] pay for
that budget out of a festival you're
[41:23] talking about. I mean the money is going
to come from us one way or another.
[41:27] » Was going to come from the county.
>> Correct.
[41:28] » Well, um you know that the discussion we
can we can certainly have next. We can
[41:33] have it right now if you want to. Um
when
[41:37] uh Steve Lynn came and told us uh that
our cash reserves are at 28%.
[41:43] And if the board is comfortable with
that, is that what it was? 28%.
[41:47] » Using that calculation. Yes.
>> Yes. Instead [clears throat] of the 35.
[41:52] So if the board's still comfortable at
28 or 25, I mean, we can we can take the
[41:56] reserves down as far as you want to. You
just have to be able to be comfortable
[42:00] with it. And there's so many factors
that come into play with that like uh
[42:06] your bond rating. Not not to say that
we're going to bond anything, but your
[42:09] you know your bond rating. um another
health disaster like COVID and you know
[42:16] those kind of things you or a flood I
mean so we want to be able to have some
[42:22] funds in there to um address those needs
too. [clears throat]
[42:31] » So what I provided you was a quick
breakdown of if we transferred the funds
[42:36] in from general fund and gaming
[42:42] and then projects that we have slated or
possibly slated to come out of that
[42:46] capital improvements plan this year.
Although looking at the most updated
[42:52] numbers that Andy's provided, I'm not
quite there. Um I used an older email
[42:58] estimate for some of his projects there.
Uh but that's putting us at 5.5 million.
[43:06] So it'll be a little less closer to 5
million um at the end of the fiscal year
[43:11] if we look at these specific projects
coming from that capital improvements
[43:16] fund.
>> And if we do that, we'll be at 25% of
[43:20] our fund balance or 28%.
>> So this is Yeah. Well, what's projected
[43:28] for the end of this year? Yes.
>> Yes. And this is again that one in two
[43:33] million that Mitch had on the plan for
the year that has not yet been
[43:37] transferred. So that has not been put
into action. It's just as far as my
[43:41] understanding is was the intent.
>> We need to go back and review this
[43:46] because we gave Andy specific
instructions to go ahead with these four
[43:51] projects
with that funding coming from us.
[43:56] And that's what we need. That's what we
need to do and I just assume this was an
[44:02] idea.
>> Yeah, we shouldn't hurt Andy's future
[44:04] projects based on what we did in the
middle of the fiscal year.
[44:09] » And I don't have any intent to do that.
No,
[44:11] » I'm only saying that this is basically
if we're saying it's coming from the
[44:15] general fund. This outlines how that
looks, we would still utilize that 1
[44:20] million that was set aside, put it into
capital projects and fund it that way.
[44:26] So, it's still coming from the general
fund. Basically, it's just running
[44:30] through that capital projects.
We are still covering our current year's
[44:36] bond payments from the capital projects
fund,
[44:40] » which is what was in the bond levy.
Um, as far as future levies, my most
[44:47] recent information, so what the final
bond levy went through says, we pay this
[44:54] current year's debt service from funds
on hand and we levy in future years.
[45:03] thoughts.
[45:08] » So those dollars that are in the capital
improvements fund are not specifically
[45:12] set to pay off those bond funds.
>> That's ex That's exactly what this board
[45:17] did. We when we got those bond funds, we
put them in that capital project fund to
[45:23] pay down that debt. Not to spend on
anything else, but to pay down that
[45:29] debt.
And um
[45:38] we've already had this discussion months
ago and it was not brought up that we
[45:43] were in
an adverse position to spend that money
[45:46] at that time and he acted on that
discussion. He spent the million dollars
[45:52] as we asked him to do.
[45:59] Where you going to get the money, Keith?
>> Well, we don't have the money for the
[46:03] Hback either.
>> No, we're working on that. I mean,
[46:05] that's that's part of the capital
discussion we're going to have next
[46:08] week,
>> but we told him to spend that million
[46:12] dollars months ago.
>> Well,
[46:15] » and now we're going to tell him that he
needs to find the money himself.
[46:19] » I I [clears throat] don't recall that
discussion. you know, I I kept the
[46:25] uh his five-year road plan. I mean, if
he send us sends us that um Excel
[46:32] spreadsheet
and
[46:37] uh you know, it's it says in there that
we're going to take it from the board.
[46:43] The board's paying for it. That's okay.
But it doesn't say that, Keith. But I
[46:48] don't recall that conversation or said
>> we don't want him to push back other
[46:52] projects that he already had planned
based on what we told him to do.
[46:56] » Other projects will be impacted.
>> It was part of his fiveyear plan.
[47:02] But
>> we asked them to move them up though,
[47:04] didn't we? Well, basically, yeah, we we
did actually
[47:08] for that if you had $2 million
>> and anything
[47:13] » is basically up in the air. Ain't it
>> said go
[47:16] » fiveyear planning is is up in the air. I
mean, it's just it's uh give or take,
[47:22] could be, not could be. I mean, I I
don't I don't see any fiveyear plan
[47:27] [clears throat]
being solid, period, for anything.
[47:33] It's it's a it's a requirement from the
state of Iowa that our second that our
[47:37] engineer provides a five-year plan to
the state.
[47:40] » All this is subject to change. Am I
right?
[47:42] » It can change.
>> The five-year plan one and two are rock
[47:45] solid. Years three, four, and five are
basically iffy. That's what the
[47:50] five-year plan is.
And that road that we're talking about
[47:54] was in year 2030.
>> Correct. That's the what was signed in
[48:00] May. Um, we asked him to do this and now
we have to finance it.
[48:05] » I agree. I agree too.
[48:10] » And the reason this is coming to a head
is we did get the invoice for 400 Street
[48:14] and we have 30 days to pay that invoice.
So, didn't you pay that already? I'd
[48:19] like to
>> I had sent that through. I will have to
[48:21] check and see if it has actually been
finalized.
[48:24] » I thought you mentioned 400,000.
[48:28] » 400,000.
That's under the
[48:33] » we did a good thing now that in place
>> and they did a lot of extra work on this
[48:39] which was directed by me. Um and Mitch
had told me the numbers were there and I
[48:45] acted on those numbers and I presented
it that way.
[48:57] Well, I just I mean,
we just need to we need to fund them
[49:03] from somewhere where we know we we're
going to have the funds and that capital
[49:07] projects fund.
Um
[49:13] those funds were set aside for that bond
because we didn't you're
[49:18] » right
>> didn't let that so it out of there
[49:23] taking a million
>> but in the future years based on the
[49:26] bond documents we are supposed to be
levying.
[49:32] » Not only that but we actually thought
about doing $2 million and they came in
[49:35] at $1 million. So, we could be looking
at a $2 million price tag right right
[49:40] now, which we're not.
>> Actually, I think we cut the project
[49:43] back some.
>> We did. They brought us several roads.
[49:47] » They brought us several different ideas
and we sat as a board and said, "Let's
[49:51] do this one instead of that one."
>> And here we are.
[49:59] [clears throat]
Well, we got a bill due and
[50:06] can't make the the motion, but I think
we got funding.
[50:11] » What? Uh,
[50:15] » Lind, do you have a recommendation?
>> Well, the 400 400th Street invoice I
[50:21] paid out of the capital improvements
fund. I do suggest we continue with that
[50:27] process and if it would make you guys
more comfortable, we can come next week
[50:33] and suggest those transfers from the
general fund and gaming so that we know
[50:38] those are in place and moving.
>> Uh or we can push those off if we want.
[50:43] 500.
[50:50] » So, we have enough funds in there now
that doesn't need a transfer yet
[50:55] » and we can talk about that more next
week if we prefer um about the extra one
[51:00] and two million that Mitch had on the
current US plan.
[51:03] » Well, we've got two other two other
projects we're in the middle of, right?
[51:11] So I think either way transfer the funds
to 40th Street.
[51:16] » Yeah, I would continue to utilize the
capital improvements fund. We have the
[51:20] money in there as it is right now. We're
not in dire of putting that fund in a
[51:25] negative position. Um but we can again
with the capital improvements that you
[51:32] guys want to talk about next week, I
confirm that up and we can talk about
[51:36] whether or not those additional
transfers will go through.
[51:49] So, we need a motion today to pay for
these three projects that are on the on
[51:58] the board.
>> I would request that you guys consider
[52:02] all four that he has. If the intent is
still for him to do all four,
[52:06] » it was just a
I'll make a motion that we pay for the
[52:13] four projects as decided months ago um
from general fund reserves and then the
[52:20] 200,000 from gaming.
[52:26] » How much from gaming?
>> What is that what you said? 200 from
[52:29] » We have Well, Mitch's plan had 1 million
from the general funds and 2 million
[52:34] from gaming. 200,
>> not two million, right?
[52:39] » I've got two million, but he had
suggested
[52:43] » the four projects are going to be at
about how much?
[52:46] » Just under a million total.
>> Yeah. So, we should be okay.
[52:50] » 927,000
is what it's going to be.
[52:52] » Okay. So, we should be fine without
touching gaming then at this point.
[52:56] » At this point, we are. Yes.
>> In fact, we're we're looking at another
[53:00] project today down the road that's on
the agenda.
[53:05] And I assume that was coming from
reserves.
[53:09] » Well,
>> okay. And yeah, we'll get into that. Uh,
[53:13] » so $927,000
from excess
[53:19] 01 fund reserves.
>> Okay.
[53:22] » We don't have any excess.
>> Well, we have money that was not spent
[53:26] in the last three budget years. So,
that's the money that we're looking at.
[53:30] » It goes right into
>> We took which goes right into general.
[53:33] We took some of that
>> for 911.
[53:37] » Exactly. Um I think the amount we took
from from that for 911 was close to six
[53:44] or eight, right?
>> Yeah.
[53:46] » No, about 10 million.
[53:51] What was your desire initially though
for that? Was it the whole thing?
[53:56] » Yeah.
>> Which means we had reserves left over.
[54:02] We we had enough to keep us afloat
and we still do. The whole project was
[54:09] what? 16.
>> Yes.
[54:11] » And you wanted 16 million straight. If
we did 10, that means we have at least 6
[54:17] million left over somewhere.
[54:21] » That is the 8.6.
>> Spend $16 million off the the radio
[54:26] project.
>> 8.8. But to move this forward, we got we
[54:30] got four four different road projects
here. We can pay four. We just need to
[54:35] to determine what on what fund. Right.
>> Right. I need to know if the come from
[54:41] the general fund.
>> Okay.
[54:43] » Then if they are coming from the general
fund
[54:46] » where wherever it comes from, I want to
say these four projects went forward
[54:50] like like I assume they were going to
>> Keith's motion was on the general
[54:55] » uh the general. All right. I'll second
that.
[54:57] » [clears throat]
[55:02] » Can I read it back, please? See
if [clears throat] you
[55:09] » Okay.
>> Motion by Jones, second by Jorgensson to
[55:11] fund all secondary roads projects
previously discussed in the amount of
[55:16] 927,000
from
[55:20] » general
>> from general fund. Okay.
[55:22] » You need to you need to put the roads in
there, Mary. I'm going to Can I get that
[55:25] from you, Andy, after the meeting? This
project.
[55:29] » Okay. No. U go ahead and name them,
Andy. So, she has
[55:32] » So, 400th Street, just south of Carson,
uh 240th Street from Highway 92 to
[55:40] Pioneer Trail,
[55:44] 245th Street, adjacent to Hackberry.
>> 245th.
[55:50] » Correct. 245th Street.
>> All right. adjacent to Hackberry. Um
[55:55] that goes south to Highway 6.
[56:01] And then the last one,
>> Juniper
[56:04] » is Juniper [clears throat] from Weston A
to L34.
[56:17] » Sorry, Juniper Road, not Juniper.
>> Andy, will you uh would please find that
[56:23] uh Excel spreadsheet. Send it to the
board, please.
[56:26] » Yes.
>> And it's 400th Street,
[56:30] 240th Street
from 92nd
[56:34] » Highway 92
Pioneer Trail. Yep.
[56:39] » 245th Street adjacent to Hackberry Road.
And
[56:45] » there's some Hackberry Road on there,
isn't there?
[56:47] » There is also some Hackberry. Yes. and
Juniper Road from Western Avenue to L34.
[56:53] » Weston S. [clears throat]
>> Sorry, I have Weston written. I spoke
[56:57] Western. Yes, Weston.
>> Yep.
[56:59] » To L34. Correct.
>> Motion by Jones, second by Jorgensson to
[57:05] approve funding for one-time road
improvement for fiscal year 27 for in
[57:11] the $927,000.
All in favor signify by saying I. I. I.
[57:17] Those opposed.
>> Would you um please
[57:22] » Motion carried
>> send us a fund balance?
[57:26] Becky [clears throat] used to send them
to us every week.
[57:30] » Um
[57:36] that's going to help for for next week
for sure.
[57:40] » Sure. Absolutely.
Have a meeting with Josh this afternoon.
[57:49] Okay. Andy Wix, engineer discussion and
their decision on seal coating of Snow
[57:55] Hill plane.
[57:59] » Yes. So I have a handout. I'm sorry I
did not include it in the packet,
[58:07] but it is just clarifying the bounds
that we will be talking about.
[58:13] Should have made it bigger. There you
go. Give me glasses.
[58:19] » Thank you.
[58:22] » Did you make this Andy?
>> Yes. This is not a formal. This was at
[58:27] 9:25 today. I put this together.
>> Your loops are a little off.
[58:33] » Correct. So, high level, we're talking
about Snow Hill Lane.
[58:38] It is a road adjacent to ski hill loop
that connects to the the ski hill at
[58:46] Crescent
Nature area.
[58:51] » Correct. So yeah, the to get your
bearings on the map, Old Lincoln Highway
[58:55] is on the the right side of the map. It
runs north to south. uh Hitchcock Nature
[59:00] Center is on the north um
very very top of the the handout and
[59:08] then the the ski hill is kind of in the
bottom left.
[59:13] And I um
yeah, I was talking with a couple board
[59:20] members and we thought that it may be
beneficial to Seal Coat Snow Hill Lane.
[59:25] » I have a series of questions. Was this
on your five-year plan?
[59:29] » No.
>> Who asked you to do this specifically?
[59:34] » I asked him for a price.
>> Where's this money coming from?
[59:37] » It's coming from gaming, Keith.
>> Did you talk about this months ago?
[59:42] » So,
>> we've talked about this for a couple
[59:44] years.
>> I'm just trying to get my bearings with
[59:48] this.
>> But, but thanks for calling me out on
[59:51] that, Keith. I appreciate it very much.
>> I am all for this. uh economic
[59:57] development.
>> Yes,
[1:00:00] » it which it it is it's for economic
development.
[1:00:04] Part of the discussion that I had with
um Andy was that um
[1:00:14] all of our parks have silo rose.
There's one that doesn't.
[1:00:22] And um well although the entrance to
Hitchcock
[1:00:31] Lodge and and the nature area in general
is further north off of Highway.
[1:00:39] It's not a highway anymore.
[clears throat]
[1:00:42] » 183. It's sub highway, but it's
>> what's that?
[1:00:45] » 183 Lincoln Highway.
>> Old Lincoln Highway. Thanks for that,
[1:00:49] Andy. I appreciate report.
>> Okay. Thanks, man.
[1:00:52] um
old Lincoln Highway, [laughter]
[1:00:57] the other entrance to Hitchcock area and
a part of our recreational opportunity
[1:01:05] is to that skiill loop area.
We know that we got an estimate for
[1:01:14] $100,000 for
keyhill loop and aundred
[1:01:22] 000 estimate to take it to old um
Lincoln Highway and that would be part
[1:01:31] of Ski Hill Loop. Is that right, Andy?
>> So the the green portion on the map is
[1:01:35] Ski Hill Loop. Um but it would connect
to Snow Hill Lane. Correct. Um, yeah, my
[1:01:41] recommendation would be if we're going
to seal coat Snow Hill Lane, that blue
[1:01:46] bubbled section, we should also seal
coat the green section, which is ski
[1:01:52] hill, though.
>> I agree with you, Andy.
[1:01:54] » Agreed.
>> If the board covered 10 and half of
[1:01:57] that, could you cover the other 50,
Andy?
[1:02:00] » We could. That awesome.
[1:02:07] This is not part of the capital
improvements project bill. Correct.
[1:02:10] » Correct. It is not in our 5year program.
>> Trying to get some background.
[1:02:14] » Are
you confident it will happen this fall?
[1:02:19] » So that that I did have a little bit of
hesitation. We are already a little bit
[1:02:25] behind with our co-contractor. So the
hope if I get direction from the board
[1:02:30] today to move forward on this, the hope
is that we could get it done this fall.
[1:02:34] But
>> the the base the base you do yourself,
[1:02:38] right?
>> Correct. So, in-house we do base
[1:02:40] stabilization. The the board helped pay
for a piece of equipment that we can now
[1:02:45] do base stabilization inhouse. Um,
however, the actual seal coating or
[1:02:50] sealing the surface, we still need
outside contractor assistance with
[1:02:58] » you're asking for 150 to do this.
>> Correct. I'll make a motion that we do
[1:03:04] that. I think it's an excellent idea.
>> From what fund
[1:03:07] » uh gaming,
[1:03:11] » you're awesome, Keith. I'll I'll check
it. I'll second that for you. [laughter]
[1:03:19] » And specifically, I wanted to confirm
from Old Lincoln Highway to the
[1:03:25] to the ski hill. So, that's section A
and C hand out. Do do we uh Yes, it
[1:03:31] would be.
>> But we would not be doing section
[1:03:33] section B.
>> You're talking about the red the red
[1:03:36] lines.
>> Yeah. So, we would we would not go to
[1:03:40] Hitchcock. We would just do kind of the
east west portion.
[1:03:45] » Do you um do you plow that?
>> We do plow ski hill loop regularly and
[1:03:53] um we coordinate with conservation on
plowing snowill lane. Do you do you plow
[1:04:00] uh Snow Hill Lane, Jeff? You know
>> that was contracted out.
[1:04:09] » I didn't hear you, Jeff. Contracted out
>> that work is contracted out
[1:04:12] » by them, not us. Correct.
>> That by conservation and the enterprise
[1:04:16] fund to get snow.
Well, the part of that was because there
[1:04:23] was no need for us to bring
Don't you plow snow with separate
[1:04:28] vehicles versus seal coat versus gravel.
That's why.
[1:04:33] » So, [snorts] um
maybe you can work with roads and get
[1:04:38] that taken care of.
>> Yeah.
[1:04:41] » Save some money there, right?
>> Well, that's what you think, Jeeoff.
[1:04:46] Andy, what's the average cost per mile
of seal coating?
[1:04:53] » About $200,000.
150 to 200.
[1:04:58] » Really?
>> Well, if we're doing base stabilization
[1:05:02] in house.
>> Okay. The whole thing done
[1:05:07] about 250.
>> About 250. Okay.
[1:05:17] All right. Got a motion by Jones, a
second by Wickman to approve
[1:05:22] Seal Coding, Snow Hill Lane, proving
150,000
[1:05:28] » out of gaming.
[1:05:32] » All [clears throat] in favor signify by
saying I. I.
[1:05:36] » Those opposed
Oh.
[1:05:44] Carry
[1:05:50] decision for discussion decision
regarding the compensation board.
[1:05:55] This board
tried and
[1:06:00] kind of failed in the last year or so on
this compensation board.
[1:06:05] We really feel
[clears throat]
[1:06:09] wanted to bring it up. So
we feel we need to appoint some people
[1:06:15] to do this. Okay. So back in July 1st,
2024, the state dissolved the
[1:06:23] compensation board
>> and we had four study sessions in 2024
[1:06:29] to teach the board how we were going to
do it to determine what the elected
[1:06:34] official salary should be. And we did
fail miserably. Um I don't like being
[1:06:42] scolded and that's what I've been
scolded on more than anything.
[1:06:46] Um, we have several elected officials in
the room today.
[1:06:52] And if we were to stand back up the
compensation board, would you guys be
[1:06:59] all right with that or do you want the
board of supervisors to continue to
[1:07:04] flounder and try and get it right?
[1:07:11] Matt
sent me as his uh spokesperson on this
[1:07:15] since he's unavailable today and he
would be in favor of the compensation
[1:07:20] board. Obviously, the board has
struggled the board of supervisors has
[1:07:23] struggled with the um show your work
requirements that the compensation board
[1:07:28] usually takes over and I it's [snorts]
his opinion that that would be better
[1:07:35] done by compensation group.
I agree.
[1:07:39] » Yeah. I disagree.
>> You disagree? Yeah.
[1:07:43] » Because I like holding you guys
accountable instead of a compensation
[1:07:45] board. So,
>> yeah. Either way, either way you get
[1:07:49] » I just think it's a waste of their time
because every year that I've sat through
[1:07:52] the com board hearings, they recommend
one thing and you guys just do another
[1:07:55] anyway. So, it's like, do we buy them
pizza and listen to them talk for an
[1:07:59] hour for what reason? Besides doing your
homework, I guess that's why I think you
[1:08:03] guys should do the homework. And if you
keep failing, then you'll learn
[1:08:05] eventually, won't you? Well, we failed
twice. We have
[1:08:09] » We didn't fail the second time. We
failed the first time.
[1:08:14] Then I wouldn't call it fail. We just
didn't
[1:08:18] get enough
>> bases.
[1:08:20] » What?
>> We didn't cover all of our bases,
[1:08:23] » right?
I What's your thought,
[1:08:27] » Andrew? I'm sorry.
>> Andrew,
[1:08:30] » I mean, I think Andy makes good points,
but
[1:08:33] » I'm with Andy. [laughter] Well, there's
three Andies in the room here. Which
[1:08:36] one?
>> No. [laughter]
[1:08:41] And I never call it Andrew. Andy. I just
>> So, we need middle names. Is that what
[1:08:46] you're saying?
>> Well,
[1:08:49] » excuse me.
>> She's with Andrew Bugs.
[1:08:52] » There's a motion on the board.
>> No.
[1:08:54] » No. I'm asking Andrew had discussion.
Your thoughts?
[1:08:59] I like boards where I have
representation on there. But Andy, the
[1:09:02] sheriff Brown makes good points that
>> at the end of the day, you guys can do
[1:09:07] whatever you want and
>> it always happens that way.
[1:09:12] » Our our comp can go to lots of work to
supply you, but that doesn't
[1:09:20] always
happen. But it all matters about money.
[1:09:25] I understand. At the end of the day,
it's going to be 2%.
[1:09:29] » So, one of the things that Matt and I
talked about um in preparing preparing
[1:09:34] for this meeting was um I mean obviously
the first year that the board did not
[1:09:40] have a compensation board, there was no
work shown and so I won't use that one.
[1:09:44] This year it seemed like the approach
from the board of supervisors was
[1:09:50] the board had a number in mind for
raises and then they used that number to
[1:09:58] kind of
>> work backwards
[1:10:00] » work backwards to to what um you know to
show their work that way. That's the
[1:10:06] opposite approach of what should happen
or what the compensation board does. The
[1:10:10] the compensation board is designed to
look at all of the elected positions and
[1:10:17] determine what would be a a fair
compensation for those elected positions
[1:10:22] based on their office comparable, you
know, elected officials in the state in
[1:10:27] the area. I know some of our departments
have comparable in the private sector.
[1:10:33] Not all of them do. And so the
compensation board is tasked with
[1:10:37] looking at what a fair compensation rate
would be and presenting that to the
[1:10:42] board of supervisors. The board of
supervisors did it the exact opposite
[1:10:46] way. And I feel like that is the biggest
problem with the show your work
[1:10:49] requirement. And that has been the
biggest struggle to get across to you
[1:10:54] five when you're making that decision
because when you have a number in mind
[1:10:59] ahead of time and you're just trying to
fit, you know, that square peg into the
[1:11:02] rack hole, it doesn't work very well.
>> You know, real quick, before we got
[1:11:09] involved in this, you know, the
conversation building would come to us
[1:11:11] and they have they had a number a lot of
times there's like eight nine%, you
[1:11:16] know, we can only work with what what
what we have for revenue.
[1:11:19] » Absolutely. And that's where we're at.
That's where I'm coming from. I don't
[1:11:22] care what anybody says. I'm basing my
decisions on what we can what we can
[1:11:27] afford for salary increases. I don't
care what any other
[1:11:30] » county or whatever whatever they do. It
doesn't matter.
[1:11:34] » And and I understand that, Jeff. I'm
just saying what the what the law has
[1:11:37] required for the compensation board to
do or the board of supervisors when
[1:11:41] acting as compensation board is to do
that that work that
[1:11:46] would show an eight or nine% raise and
then review it even if the county can
[1:11:53] only provide a 2% raise you you still
have to do that work and and collect
[1:11:58] that data per the code. So, so that is
what what the problem has been. And it's
[1:12:03] it's clear that the board has a hard
time doing that because I I understand
[1:12:08] the county only has a a certain amount
of funds available. That doesn't change
[1:12:13] the code requirements for showing your
work. So, I
[1:12:17] » I have I'm not an elected official,
>> so I'm just speaking to what what the
[1:12:22] code says and what the concerns have
been in the past. And it it has been
[1:12:27] clear that the board struggles with
that. And and I think again I'm not the
[1:12:33] elected official in the room. That's
just from the legal perspective that has
[1:12:37] obviously been hard for the board of
supervisors to break out those two
[1:12:42] separate roles because when you are
acting as your own compensation board,
[1:12:46] you are acting in a different role than
when you are acting as a board of
[1:12:50] supervisor or a board of supervisors. um
in determining the actual
[1:12:54] » our role is to manage our county budget,
>> but this is county or this is state code
[1:13:00] is what's required of us.
>> That that's what's hard to understand.
[1:13:05] » Is talking about
handing off that off to another.
[1:13:08] » You can't predetermine where we're at
per state code if we're the if we're the
[1:13:14] compensation board. The spirit of the
law, if not the letter of the law, would
[1:13:19] suggest that if not required, that if
you're acting as your own compensation
[1:13:23] board, that then at least one member of
the board would visit with the elected
[1:13:27] officials. That did not happen in the
case of the auditor's office, even
[1:13:31] though an off tour was offered um to the
board member assigned. And um I I
[1:13:39] completely agree with um Kristen's
assessment. You do you do have to step
[1:13:45] outside your roles as board members and
act in a completely different capacity.
[1:13:50] » And we we admitted we failed.
>> I mean, you know, we're not perfect.
[1:13:57] We're human.
>> Well, and I I think we learned a lot and
[1:14:03] we'll value the compensation board when
they come and speak to us. I mean, we
[1:14:10] won't just discount what they're telling
us.
[1:14:14] » I don't think we did a bad job last
year. The first year, I would agree that
[1:14:19] um we didn't put our homework in
writing,
[1:14:21] » right?
>> And you know, [clears throat] however,
[1:14:25] however Christian wants to um
say [snorts] it, you know, when when
[1:14:34] we get
I don't know 800 to $1.2 $2 million
[1:14:39] worth of new money.
And we know a 1% raise for everybody in
[1:14:43] the county cost $400,000.
[1:14:48] If there's no money there, there's no
money. I mean, there we we can't we
[1:14:53] can't uh
make that up. It's
[1:14:58] that's all there is.
Believe me, I think we have some elected
[1:15:03] officials that deserve a little bit
more.
[1:15:06] » I agree. I sure totally agree.
>> But when you when you look at them and
[1:15:12] you rank them across the state in the
counties,
[1:15:16] we are the 10th largest county and all
of our elected officials are in the top
[1:15:21] 10. So, we're not doing everything
wrong.
[1:15:26] Now, if you want to um there there's
some of our elected officials that make
[1:15:31] more than
um statewide elected officials and um
[1:15:38] there's
um high ranking state law enforcement
[1:15:44] officers that make less than our
sheriff. I'm not [clears throat] putting
[1:15:48] putting Andy down at all. I mean, I
think think that he has a huge
[1:15:52] responsibility. We've already started
that homework.
[1:15:57] Um, and as
as Andy said, Andy Brown said, you know,
[1:16:04] when when the compensation board comes
to us and says, gosh, we're going to
[1:16:08] give them all an eight or nine 10%
raise. No, we don't have we don't have
[1:16:11] the money. So then we say, gosh, we
can't we can't accept that
[1:16:16] recommendation. Tim, when I say I
thought we failed when we didn't talk
[1:16:22] » to them at the I believe it was the
first year.
[1:16:25] » Yeah, we we learned
I think this board learned. So, it's
[1:16:31] important and I think we have a study
session
[1:16:34] and uh
bring them in and sit down and talk with
[1:16:38] them at some point.
>> You know, the I know that um there were
[1:16:44] some representatives
on the compensation board that were
[1:16:49] pissed
because they do the work. They come in
[1:16:52] here and have pizza and they they
recommend 6 8 10 12% raises
[1:17:00] and don't look at the financials
financials of the county or they don't
[1:17:04] have them yet. They don't have the
information that uh this is all the
[1:17:09] county has in new money and that's all
we have to spend. They don't have that
[1:17:13] information. So when they when they make
that recommendation,
[1:17:18] um,
we can't we can't agree with it. We
[1:17:23] don't have the money to do it.
>> If it's over, then we got to look at
[1:17:28] cuts,
strong cuts, and they're not fun. And
[1:17:33] that it's not easy for this board to
make cuts.
[1:17:40] Hopefully, it won't come to that. I I
don't know what what the right thing to
[1:17:45] do is. I don't think we did a bad job at
all last year. Um I think we done our we
[1:17:51] had our homework and whether it was
correct or not, I thought we worked on
[1:17:57] it pretty good. So,
[1:18:02] okay. So, what's the board want to do
here? We got discussion or no decision
[1:18:08] decision regarding the compensation.
I will make a motion to approve
[1:18:13] reinstatement of the compensation board
with the elected officials. Second that
[1:18:26] » and I make that recommendation with or I
make that motion with the recommendation
[1:18:31] that we u apply all of the lessons
learned since 2024.
[1:18:40] Okay, I got a motion by Miller and a
second by Jorgensson
[1:18:45] to reinstate the compensation board with
elected officials.
[1:18:51] » You will. I'll call that brand.
>> Yeah, I would. Please.
[1:18:56] » Chairman Shay,
[1:19:00] » can you start with someone else? Okay,
I'll go first. Uh N.
[1:19:11] Mr. Chairman, do you want me to come
back to you?
[1:19:17] » Hey, real quick. Sorry if it's even
>> Yes. Go ahead.
[1:19:20] » Are you guys going to be appointing this
board or we need to go find our people
[1:19:23] again? If if this passes,
>> you guys get to appoint a representative
[1:19:27] to the compensation board.
[clears throat]
[1:19:30] » And
I do think we done an all right job last
[1:19:34] year. Here's my thought, and I'm not
going to be here next year, so I'm just
[1:19:38] saying this from as a disinterested
person. We're going to bring in a group
[1:19:41] of people from the community. They're
going to do a lot of work, and because
[1:19:44] of the 2% floor or ceiling, um, most of
their ideas are going to be negated. I
[1:19:51] just feel bad doing that to a group of
people from the community. Um,
[1:19:55] » was it 24 that a lot of them spoke out
that they weren't happy?
[1:20:00] » Yeah.
>> I I mean, I get recumbent. My
[1:20:02] understanding you guys don't have the
money. It's like but they come in here
[1:20:04] and do recommendations and I think in 24
>> 2023
[1:20:08] » was it 23
>> in 23 none of the board showed up to the
[1:20:13] hearing
>> and they all they did was essentially
[1:20:17] speak their you know
I want to word this they weren't happy
[1:20:22] with you guys because they would
recommend something do all this work and
[1:20:24] then you guys would do what you needed
to do
[1:20:26] » and that could happen again this year
>> it would happen again this year
[1:20:28] » it will happen again
>> that's why I said why waste the time
[1:20:31] just
>> I'm writing
[1:20:35] Chairman [clears throat] Chairman Shay.
>> Nay.
[1:20:39] » Uh, Supervisor Jones.
>> Hi.
[1:20:41] » Supervisor Miller.
>> I.
[1:20:43] » Supervisor Jorgensson.
>> Hi.
[1:20:48] » Hi.
>> So,
[1:20:51] that means this board's going to be the
compensation board
[1:20:56] » and we're going to do our homework and
we're going to show our work.
[1:20:59] » I like what you said, Andy.
Sheriff's
[1:21:03] fine. I I think that's important.
[1:21:11] » Okay. We need a discussion decision on
appointment to fill vacancy on civil
[1:21:17] service commission.
>> Okay. With the passing of Frank Package
[1:21:21] checkek, um we have an opening on the
civil service commission and I know that
[1:21:27] the requirements according to state code
require um have have specific
[1:21:35] requirements on party affiliation and
who appoints them. And Josh Goutah is
[1:21:42] currently on the Civil Service
Commission and he was appointed by the
[1:21:46] Attorney's Office and he is a Republican
and his term ends August 15, 2027.
[1:21:55] Kim Preston um is a Democrat that the
board appointed
[1:22:00] and his term ends August 1531.
um when they actually had sitting down
[1:22:09] for the civil service testing that was
done in May,
[1:22:15] um
John Dalton, who was previously on the
[1:22:20] board on the commission, stepped up to
help with that testing because the
[1:22:25] others were not available.
And John has expressed interest in
[1:22:31] remaining being returned to this board.
And with the vacancy, I would make the
[1:22:36] motion to appoint John Dalton to fill
the term that is left or fill the
[1:22:43] vacancy on the Civil Service Commission.
Are you in agreement with that, Andy?
[1:22:48] » Yes. And I've spoken with John and he's
willing to step up and help us. So,
[1:22:53] » is that [clears throat] your
appointment, Andy, or the board?
[1:22:55] » The boards. I don't have an appointment.
It's one for county attorney, two for
[1:22:58] board.
>> The board.
[1:22:59] » Okay.
Um,
[1:23:03] is he
a Republican?
[1:23:06] » He's independent. So, we would have one
of each party in the house. So,
[1:23:11] » I thought you said those other two were
Democrats.
[1:23:14] » No, Josh is a Republican.
>> Oh, okay.
[1:23:18] » And Kim did show up. Kim Preston did
show up. Oh, good. May. Okay.
[1:23:22] » But of course, that was his first
experience. And he I'm glad John helped
[1:23:25] us out because, you know, John's been
doing it for many years. So,
[1:23:31] » got a motion by Miller to appoint John
Dalton to the Civil Service Commission.
[1:23:38] I need a second.
>> I'll second that. [clears throat]
[1:23:42] » All in favor signify by saying I
>> I.
[1:23:46] » Those opposed.
>> John will be good.
[1:23:51] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Next up, Jasmine Elmore, director
[1:23:55] of human resources. discussion in our
decision to approve and authorize the
[1:23:59] board to sign the contract with WIQ
Spark for the employee wellness
[1:24:05] provider.
>> Um,
[1:24:09] as a a note from my office, uh, we I did
review the contract and we've reached
[1:24:16] out to Wix Spark with some concerns and
those have not been resolved yet. So,
[1:24:21] I'm working with the um their legal
team. I will be working with their legal
[1:24:27] team to get um some of issues resolved.
>> So, we should table it today.
[1:24:32] » I I would request that. I'm because I
didn't really get to dig into it until
[1:24:38] um Tuesday last week. I am a little
behind on this one. So, I I would
[1:24:43] request that we table it so that we can
get some on those issues fall. there
[1:24:47] there seem to be some inconsistencies
between um there's there are there are
[1:24:52] kind of two contracts and the like price
sheet and there are some inconsistencies
[1:24:58] among all three of those things
I I don't think that we should be
[1:25:03] signing a contract that has that
inconsistencies
[1:25:07] and I I believe that was they were
inconsistent as given to us from the
[1:25:13] » question um I reviewed a little bit of
Can
[1:25:19] can you help me or do you with where
where's the cost?
[1:25:25] » So
>> cost were 17,000 and I could only find
[1:25:28] like nine in the contract. I mean what's
going on with that
[1:25:32] or did I miss something?
>> That might be more of a Jasmine
[1:25:36] question. Um, I know that there's a
separate like cost sheet which was um
[1:25:42] like the I think the order form is how
it's laid out with some of the costs in
[1:25:47] it. Um, and then they did update the
compensation part. It's on the the first
[1:25:54] page of the contract um near the bottom.
Uh they updated that uh to show the
[1:26:02] correct fees I believe.
>> Correct. what
[1:26:05] » the correct TVs. Um, which I don't have
the newest one in front of me. My laptop
[1:26:09] died, so I don't
I have the old contract with my notes on
[1:26:14] it, but not the the new version that we
got sent,
[1:26:20] » but we're going to put it off till next
week.
[1:26:22] » I would request that we do. I I'm hoping
that um early this week I'll be able to
[1:26:27] get the the things that I needed resolve
resolved with them. Um there are a few
[1:26:32] questions that I had because like I said
there are some inconsistencies
[1:26:35] um that are not clear. I I'm assuming
they have a form contract and they for
[1:26:41] everybody and they don't generally have
um questions on it and so I think that
[1:26:46] it'll take a little bit of time to get
this ironed out.
[1:26:48] » Okay.
>> I I apologize uh for for any delay that
[1:26:52] I have caused on this one.
>> Any other questions?
[1:26:56] Um, no. I think that didn't I see 9,000
in here somewhere soon.
[1:27:02] » 9,900.
>> It's seven. It's 17. I mean, it was
[1:27:07] 6,000 last week. It's [snorts] 9,000
this week. I mean, I
[1:27:11] » So, so what you're what you're actually
seeing, sorry. Um what you're actually
[1:27:16] seeing is um we got we got some original
numbers for the um for the on-site
[1:27:21] screenings which would have been the 52
to 50 to 52 um per participant. So they
[1:27:27] overshot and gave us the highest number
in case we wanted to have some of the
[1:27:30] on-site screening. So, because we're
going to um essentially review um and go
[1:27:36] through I I mean, if somebody wants to
go, you know, to the to their provider
[1:27:40] as opposed to us having the screenings
here on site, um that's causing the
[1:27:45] difference in the cost. Um we also
quoted them the approximate number of
[1:27:50] people who were on the plan. Now, um so
that brought down the cost as well. Um
[1:27:55] originally we I think they used a number
of like 500 participants which would
[1:27:59] have been I think a $130. Um but when
you drop that number down um it
[1:28:06] increases their number per participant
to like $160. So that's why you're
[1:28:10] seeing the difference in the discrepancy
between what was originally quoted for
[1:28:14] like the 17,000. and they wanted to give
us the highest possible number uh just
[1:28:19] in case depending on what we chose as a
county um to what's closer to what's
[1:28:24] more realistically uh what we can take.
>> Can you spell that out for us next week
[1:28:30] so we can understand that a little
better?
[1:28:33] » Sure.
>> All right. The the the one just real
[1:28:37] quick I I really can't follow any of
this. the the plan the three-year plan
[1:28:43] as uh Spark quoted us was 17,868.
[1:28:50] A one-year cost is now from them 9,948.
So if one would just do the math and
[1:28:58] figure that's a three, you're going to
do that for three years, right? That's
[1:29:01] what they quoted here. That takes it to
30,000. That's that's $13,000 more than
[1:29:06] what they quoted here. I don't get it.
dependent on the services that we decide
[1:29:12] to utilize.
>> I'm a little confused with some of it. I
[1:29:16] know that there's the the per member
rate is the $160 per member per month.
[1:29:23] And so I think that was the estimated
$4,600.
[1:29:27] I know that there's an imple
implementation fee for $1,500. And I
[1:29:32] understand that that's a onetime fee.
>> Yes.
[1:29:34] » So those two would be
part of it. That's $6,100.
[1:29:41] And then from what I understand from
Jasmine,
[1:29:44] there is another fee that they charge
per person per or for um the individual
[1:29:51] employees to have their um workups,
their blood work done at the courthouse.
[1:29:58] It was my understanding we weren't going
to do that for most people because with
[1:30:02] our prior program we you know most
people went to their doctor got their
[1:30:07] screening at their doctor's office and
then that is wrapped up into their like
[1:30:10] annual physical fee and so
I don't see that
[1:30:17] on this sheet anywhere and so that I
think is leading to some of the
[1:30:21] confusion.
>> Do we have time this week?
[1:30:26] » Well, I'm sorry. Is that right?
>> You will have time this week.
[1:30:28] » Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
>> Okay.
[1:30:30] » And I I think
>> then get it spelled out for us a little
[1:30:33] clearer for us if you would.
>> All right. Thank you. Next up, committee
[1:30:38] appointments. Jeff,
>> uh I have not, but I was at the uh uh
[1:30:43] days yesterday.
[1:30:48] Appreciated
[1:30:56] had some appointments with uh
unleash council bluffs
[1:31:03] the uh loss hills
[1:31:08] um
I was gone for the weekend so that was
[1:31:14] it
[1:31:18] » I attended the east pot soil and water
tour bus tour and it was
[1:31:25] it was very informative and eye opening.
I enjoyed it very much. Um I had
[1:31:31] pancakes at Botna Bend on Saturday
morning and I got a phone call at 4:00
[1:31:38] on Friday afternoon to let us know that
our occupational health
[1:31:44] » provider had
quit providing effective immediately.
[1:31:50] And that's really concerning and I'm
sure it'll be an agenda item for next
[1:31:54] week.
[1:31:58] » Okay. Okay. We're going to go into
some study sessions here.
[1:32:05] Um,
we take a break for a minute.
[1:32:16] [clears throat]
[1:38:11] a portionment of lime kiln per road
improvement policy. Andy,
[1:38:16] » yes. So,
[1:38:21] » in the five-year program, we've had the
last this fiscal year, we have
[1:38:26] identified reconfiguring limekilm as it
ties into Old Lincoln Highway, and
[1:38:32] there's a safety concern there. We've
had crashes there and years ago,
[1:38:36] residents came to the county and said,
"We want Limekil seal coated." And the
[1:38:42] county said, "We can't seal coat it
because this intersection is unsafe. We
[1:38:46] need to get the tie in to Old Lincoln
Highway reconfigured. Currently, it ties
[1:38:51] in at a a gnarly Y and we're going to
the hope was to reconfigure it to tee
[1:38:56] into Old Lincoln Highway. Um and then we
can seal code limekill. We have met with
[1:39:02] land owners. John met with land owners.
I've met with land owners. We finally
[1:39:06] are in agreement with the land owners to
um acquire a little bit of two parcels
[1:39:13] and
tie in lime retie in Limekill into Old
[1:39:17] Lincoln Highway so it's safer, better
sight distance. Um that paperwork has
[1:39:24] started. We haven't actually acquired
the land yet, but we're in we've had
[1:39:28] discussions and we're in agreement
um with the land owners. So the next
[1:39:33] step is if we want to seal coat lime
kill road next calendar year. So
[1:39:40] calendar 2027
um most likely it'll be paid for out of
[1:39:44] my fiscal 28 not fiscal 27 but calendar
year 27.
[1:39:50] Um we need to get this petition to the
residents and I need to get signatures
[1:39:56] back from the residents by October 1st
according to county code or sorry state
[1:39:59] code and county um policy.
In order for a seal code petition to be
[1:40:05] approved for the next year, it needs to
be signed by October 1st, the prior
[1:40:10] year.
So, I'm I should have had my ducks in a
[1:40:14] little bit better. Um, in order to seal
coat lime kiln in calendar year 2027,
[1:40:19] we need to get signatures by the
residents by October 1st of this year.
[1:40:24] So, that gives us three weeks basically.
So, I wanted to bring the draft um
[1:40:32] petition to you all so that we are in
agreement before I push that out to the
[1:40:37] the residents and it should be in the
your packets. But basically,
[1:40:44] I know you should have brought handouts,
but I want your thoughts on three items.
[1:40:51] one, what kind of interest rate should
we set for this petition? Two, how costs
[1:40:57] should be assessed per parcel? And
three, is my parcel map accurate? Um, I
[1:41:04] think in past petitions, parcels were
included or excluded, and I want to make
[1:41:10] sure we're all on the same page so that
when it gets pushed out to the public,
[1:41:13] there aren't residents that say, "Hey,
my parcel is included and it shouldn't
[1:41:17] be." Or vice versa. If you come off the
road and your access is from that road,
[1:41:22] you're on the petition.
>> So, that is how I proceeded with that.
[1:41:26] If you have a driveway on Limekill or if
you own a pri if you have access through
[1:41:30] a private driveway, uh, which would be
Imperial Lane, um, then I include an
[1:41:36] Imperial Lane as well.
The code I believe says that a half mile
[1:41:42] on either side of the road. Anybody who
owns property, if it's a farm and
[1:41:49] doesn't have
a an entrance
[1:41:53] off of Limekill on that farm is still
part of
[1:41:58] the petition. Correct. You don't have to
have a driveway.
[1:42:04] Correct. And it's
It's your it's the resident's
[1:42:11] responsibility to get that petition
signed, not yours. Correct. Yeah. I will
[1:42:17] not be out there doornocking. It's the
residents will run with the petition and
[1:42:21] if they get signatures, I just want to
make sure that we are of the same
[1:42:24] accord. Um if the residents get the
signatures, so it's not on me, it's not
[1:42:29] on you as a board to go get the
signatures. It is on the residents along
[1:42:33] Lime. Um, I've identified so and going
to the code that Tim referenced, it's
[1:42:39] state code section 311.2.
Um, you can't include a parcel. I'll
[1:42:46] just read it. Any such secondary road
assessment district shall be not more
[1:42:50] than one half mile wide on either side
of the road or roads to be improved by
[1:42:54] said district. So up to a half mile,
can't go past that. Um,
[1:43:00] so I excluded parcels on Hillsboro
North. Um, because that's a separate
[1:43:06] road.
>> Did you get that map, please?
[1:43:10] » Matthew
[1:43:14] weird.
>> So Stevie is going to put it up on the
[1:43:17] screen as well.
>> I'm gonna give it a shot.
[1:43:20] » That would be helpful. We're all the
same thing.
[1:43:24] » I I see the list of names, but I don't
see the map.
[1:43:28] Maybe as I got done two blank pages
while
[1:43:31] » that's what I said. It is loading weird
and I had struggled with it all weekend.
[1:43:36] » So I I finally took the board's advice
and worked with GIS. So GIS provided a
[1:43:41] really good map and that's what this uh
so Steve is going to be pulling up a
[1:43:46] parcel map. It follows L road.
That's why I have three blank spaces.
[1:43:56] » Lined up beautifully.
>> We have it sufficient.
[1:43:59] » Stretch it as big as you can.
>> Joslyn Avenue
[1:44:05] 29's over here. Um, all these Shelberg
parcels for Midwest products have a
[1:44:11] driveway right here. None of these
parcels
[1:44:15] go to Joslin and they're within the half
mile. So that's why I included them.
[1:44:20] » And he also said he would participate.
>> I have not talked with her.
[1:44:26] » I said I did.
>> And they're going to run their rock
[1:44:30] trucks down.
>> No, we passed an ordinance
[1:44:34] for Limekill that there can be no rock
trucks up and down there.
[1:44:39] » [clears throat]
>> So, as far as I'm concerned, that
[1:44:41] ordinance should continue to stay in
effect. We should not have rock trucks.
[1:44:44] » I think we passed it. Was it four or
five years ago, Tim? I
[1:44:49] » I don't recall that. I mean,
>> I remember we, you know, I think John
[1:44:54] put something up there says no rock
trucks. And the guy says, "Well, I'm not
[1:44:59] hauling rock. I'm hauling dirt. It's a
dirt truck."
[1:45:02] » Yeah. Well,
>> so I don't remember. may be something we
[1:45:05] need to look into because I don't
remember if the ordinance referenced at
[1:45:08] the road or gravel road
but
[1:45:14] » we will have time to go that
>> so I mentioned Imperial Lane I'll just
[1:45:20] go down so we're on sheet two of your
handout Imperial Lane is a private road
[1:45:25] the city or the county does not maintain
Imperial Road and therefore
[1:45:31] that is why I included parcel of wat
they have to use a private driveway. I
[1:45:36] did not include a Hillsboro Lane North
um parcels on that because
[1:45:42] it is a public county maintain road.
Yes, it ties into Lfield and that's the
[1:45:46] only way out. Um but
I didn't think that these people should
[1:45:51] be on the hook for improving a road that
they that their house doesn't abide.
[1:45:58] If the board would like me to include
those, I can.
[1:46:02] But I excluded those because it's a
public and
[1:46:07] it's not
>> I think that's the right thing because I
[1:46:09] think they want to bring a petition and
you talked about it not being 22 foot
[1:46:15] wide.
>> So we line is a fairly easy seal coat
[1:46:19] process. Basically um toughen up the
soil and then add seal coat on top.
[1:46:25] Hillsboro, we will have to widen the
road, um add ditches. It'll be a much
[1:46:32] more expensive process and so Hillsboro
residents are excluded because they're
[1:46:37] not getting direct benefit.
[1:46:41] So with that and like this parcel right
here, they have a driveway over here. So
[1:46:47] I excluded them and you can scroll down
to the last sheet.
[1:46:58] There's really nothing else from us,
Andy.
[1:47:01] » So, I want a rough idea of or your
blessing to say, is this parcel map
[1:47:07] sufficient? Is there any glaring, hey,
you forgot to include this piece?
[1:47:13] Andy added, and again, I would say this
piece is owned by one of these two
[1:47:18] property owners and not one of these.
So, I thought this piece
[1:47:23] comes off. Yeah.
>> So, anywhere you look, I think I
[1:47:27] excluded this piece because they have a
driveway on Hillsboro Lane North. So,
[1:47:32] » I did not include everybody within the
half mile. State code says you can
[1:47:36] include everybody within a half a mile.
Um,
[1:47:40] so
>> can you bring that map down to the
[1:47:43] entrance of the highway?
>> Yeah, it's a good call.
[1:47:46] » Do you show that?
>> So, that I did not show that actual
[1:47:50] reconfiguration. We're straightening
this S-curve out and then tying in
[1:47:55] roughly right here.
So, we're acquiring
[1:48:00] um some of her parcel and her parcel.
>> And how are we paying for that?
[1:48:06] » That'll come out of secondary roads. Um
that's in the five-year program or in
[1:48:11] this fiscal year of the five-year
program is to acquire right away and
[1:48:14] then do some regrading. It's pretty
steep through here. There's some large
[1:48:20] embankments that we're going to cut down
to allow for better sight distance these
[1:48:23] driveways to for those residents to get
on limekilm.
[1:48:27] » There is a couple sharp curves there and
buses during the winter have slid off
[1:48:34] into ditches with children in them and
it's just it's always a mess there.
[1:48:40] » What are you going to do with your right
away?
[1:48:44] So are you saying on this piece we get
>> the
[1:48:49] I would leave that up to the board but
one thought is we sell it to this
[1:48:55] partial owner this partial owner we
allow this partial owner too
[1:48:58] » even even Mike Wick or uh Sandberg
>> yeah am I allowed to say names is that
[1:49:05] okay
>> yeah that's all I'm
[1:49:07] » so we would either sell it to the
sandbergs sell it to the let Joan Elman
[1:49:14] maintain ownership or the county could
retain ownership of it. I think it is
[1:49:19] worthwhile to sell to
probably Sandberg's or to to
[1:49:25] » if we do offer it for sale to
[1:49:30] Sandbergs. Do we ask Miss Olman
if she's okay with that?
[1:49:36] » I think we have to put it up for like
public hearing.
[1:49:40] » Okay. if we're going to sell the
property.
[1:49:43] » I I can't off top my head, but I I feel
like
[1:49:46] » I say we get the project going first,
then worry about that.
[1:49:50] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think that's a secondary issue.
[1:49:52] So,
>> I think it would be wise for the county
[1:49:54] to not maintain that right of way if
you're not using it for road anymore
[1:49:59] because we've run into that problem a
few times where the county has some
[1:50:02] weird right ofway parcels that we have
to maintain and we don't need them or
[1:50:09] want them.
Yes,
[1:50:13] I should have started this conversation
by saying if we don't get 75% of the
[1:50:16] signatures, this is is all kind of a
muga point until next year anyways, but
[1:50:21] I think it's worth all us all being on
the same page if we do get the
[1:50:25] signatures.
>> Andy, if you you're still going to do
[1:50:28] the end piece no matter what.
>> Correct. This is happening regardless of
[1:50:33] seal code.
>> Is it going to tee up with Holly Lane?
[1:50:38] So, we initially wanted it to. It will
not um we would have the house it's we'd
[1:50:45] have to move the house. Oh,
>> so we would were not able to get it to
[1:50:49] to we wanted it to, but no, we're not
able to.
[1:50:54] » My sixth grade teacher.
>> So, that was question one. Is there And
[1:50:59] again, we don't have to decide. This is
a study session. You don't have to
[1:51:02] decide completely today, but I'd like to
push this out to the requesting
[1:51:06] residents.
So, if there's any parcels that you're
[1:51:10] like, hey, why isn't this added or can
we add this? Let me know. The second
[1:51:14] question is on the interest rate that we
should set. So, for the last seal code
[1:51:20] petition that was approved, we set a 0%
interest rate. Um, according to state
[1:51:24] code, I think we can set up to a nine or
14%.
[1:51:28] I'm fine with any. I think it either
makes sense to do zero or what we could
[1:51:33] get in the market. And so Steve and I
talked and that's about 4% is what the
[1:51:37] county borrows money at. Sorry. So if we
want to get a flat return for our money,
[1:51:44] I'd say we do a 4% interest rate um
amortized over the the 10-year period.
[1:51:50] But does the board have a preference?
The last one we did was zero. So maybe
[1:51:54] it makes sense that
>> I think for the taxpayers, I think it
[1:51:56] ought to be 4%. They really do.
I don't think the zero's
[1:52:04] » I think it's better for
>> the reason I I don't know why why the
[1:52:09] nobody was on that board but me and you
Brian that made that call. Well, Jeff
[1:52:15] and Susan came in at the very last part
of it. That that's the only one we've
[1:52:20] ever done and that was a total disaster
from the beginning to the end.
[1:52:27] And um
[1:52:32] » what's the cost of a project roughly?
I'm sorry.
[1:52:35] » So it is a 7030 split. The total cost
upfront cost $900,000. I would have to
[1:52:42] come at it. Secondary roads would pay
the upfront cost and then secondary
[1:52:45] roads would get reimbursed over a
10-year period 70% of that. So overall
[1:52:51] the county would be on the hook 100
minus 70. So, we'd be on hook 30%. Which
[1:52:55] is roughly $270,000.
[1:52:59] » Well, you're on the hook for
>> We're on the hook for 9
[1:53:01] » 900,000
>> up front.
[1:53:03] » Up front.
>> Correct.
[1:53:05] » But do you have a ring leader that's
going to run this petition?
[1:53:08] » So, I've been talking to the Sandbergs
and yeah, give it to them. They run with
[1:53:13] it. And then
>> we got we got two two others that will
[1:53:17] take it on too. So, whatever we got to
do. Um,
[1:53:22] and you know, we've talked about
improving roads for homes and stuff, and
[1:53:27] there's several along there.
[1:53:32] I've heard up to 16 that could possibly
go in over time.
[1:53:40] » Yeah, I think that there's opportunity
with some of these larger parcels, but I
[1:53:46] have not discussion. That's up to the
residents.
[1:53:52] So, so
everybody okay? I'm going to include 4%
[1:53:56] on the the document I give to the
residents. And again, if they voted
[1:54:01] down, that's their prerogative. Um, and
then the last question is, how do we
[1:54:06] want to assess the increase to their
taxes? So, they're on the hook for 70%
[1:54:12] of the increase. Um, there's basically
three options that I laid out. Do we do
[1:54:16] it proportionally based off of property
value? So say this person's property
[1:54:22] value is $700,000. So they'd pay a
higher
[1:54:26] overall cost. And say this person's
property is $1,000 assessed value. So
[1:54:31] they'd pay pennies extra a year in their
property tax. Um that's one option.
[1:54:37] Another option is we divide the cost
evenly amongst all residents. So, if
[1:54:43] they're on the hook for $700,000,
then we'd subdivide it equally. Each
[1:54:48] parcel would pay the exact same amount.
Um, I think that there's a handful of
[1:54:53] parcels that are only $200 assessed
value. I think that one's one of them.
[1:54:58] And then there's one on the first sheet.
But if we assess it evenly across
[1:55:04] everybody, I think that that really
inhibits some of the residents from
[1:55:09] wanting to sign off. So, say their
assessed value is $200, but they're on
[1:55:14] the hook for a $700 a year increase,
they
[1:55:19] would almost immediately say no.
Whereas, if it's a $200 value, but
[1:55:24] they're assessed proportionally. They'd
be on the hook for a buck or two
[1:55:28] increase a year. Um,
>> I'd say we do it proportionately.
[1:55:32] » Is that a buildable lot?
>> I don't think it is, Tim.
[1:55:37] » I don't know.
>> I don't. It needs to be at least two
[1:55:40] acres. So, I don't believe so. Let's
Stevie, can you scroll? Oh, 11. It's
[1:55:45] only one acre. So, no, it's not
buildable, but I believe they own Yeah,
[1:55:51] they can't. That can't That's not even
buildable.
[1:55:55] » Yeah, they could share a well,
which [clears throat] turns into a mess.
[1:56:02] Well, I don't think it's fair
that if somebody
[1:56:10] is a millionaire and has a $700,000
house,
[1:56:16] um,
pays
[1:56:20] I don't know, let's just call it $500 a
year.
[1:56:24] And the next door neighbor has a
$150,000 house
[1:56:31] and he only pays
$100 a year. They're both getting the
[1:56:36] same benefit
regardless of this the cost of their
[1:56:42] home or how much money they make or how
much money they have. I think when the
[1:56:47] board we we this
it's important for Annie to have that
[1:56:51] information on which way the board wants
to go.
[1:56:56] whether these people even sign a
petition, but um I don't
[1:57:04] uh in my opinion, property tax is the
worst tax there is because it's very
[1:57:08] unfair for everybody.
U you just you pay based on the on the
[1:57:14] value of your home, not for the services
you get, but the value of your home
[1:57:18] because we all get the same service.
somebody lives in a more expensive
[1:57:22] house, you just pay more for it. Is that
fair?
[1:57:27] So, if we we put them
there's I don't know how many lots there
[1:57:33] are, how many parcels, but if if it cost
uh let's see, it's 30%. I don't have
[1:57:39] that in front of me. What is it? 560,000
that the residents have to pay. That was
[1:57:44] darn close here.
[1:57:51] » I didn't scroll down.
>> We have a mixture, don't we? We've got
[1:57:55] some corporate land, we've got some
farmland, and we got some residential
[1:58:01] land.
>> Correct. And so the the third
[1:58:04] alternative is we assess it depending on
the type of property that is there. And
[1:58:11] that could get subjective or
>> it is subjective. So
[1:58:17] » there's not a lot of farmland back
there. It it is on paper, but not many
[1:58:24] people farm back in there. I think we do
it proportionately because
[1:58:31] » it truly for someone to pay the same as
someone who's got a $700,000 house as a
[1:58:38] $150,000 house. I think that's unfair,
too. I really do. I think the only way
[1:58:45] to get these petitions through is to do
it proportionately and let let that road
[1:58:54] uh come to f fruition. It needs to there
would be possibly up to 16 more homes
[1:59:02] that road
that there's people that are you can't
[1:59:06] you can't base
>> I'm not that uh you're [clears throat]
[1:59:11] it's part of your opinion. I mean,
whatever this board is going to put
[1:59:14] together, I mean, it needs to be
something that can withstand the next
[1:59:18] project and the next project and the
next board and
[1:59:22] » which we done proportionately last time,
>> which nobody agreed to.
[1:59:28] » I
I thought it was the way to go.
[1:59:32] » I I don't think any way you do it is
going to be fair because it's not
[1:59:36] there's no way to be completely fair on
something like this. Um, I think there
[1:59:41] there are ways that are slightly more
equitable than others. Um, I think all
[1:59:47] three of the the methods that Annie's
presented have some matter of equity in
[1:59:53] them. So,
it's up to the board, but I don't think
[1:59:58] I don't think anybody's going to say
it's fair for any of them. I mean, I you
[2:00:03] can't we don't really have a great
method to get it exactly truly fair for
[2:00:08] these people.
I want the project to go through. So my
[2:00:12] my votes proportionate and 0%.
>> Proportionate. Explain what you mean by
[2:00:19] that.
>> The proportionate taxation of the person
[2:00:23] » based on assessed value. Yes.
>> Yeah. And Andy's got a column on here.
[2:00:28] » So yeah, proportionally would be against
the 2026 assess value.
[2:00:33] » So the Kemps their assessed value it's
253,000.
[2:00:39] at a 4%
interest rate over a 10-year
[2:00:43] amortization, they'd have an additional
976,000,
[2:00:47] sorry, $976 added to their property tax
bill
[2:00:53] » per year.
>> Per year.
[2:00:56] You need to scroll down. Would you
scroll down on that just a little bit
[2:00:59] for me and find uh
a couple of couple of parcels where it's
[2:01:05] land only?
If you look at the property tax,
[2:01:11] » yeah, like this one, 12 acres assessed
at $15,000.
[2:01:16] If we did it um based off of
what if we did it based off of just
[2:01:22] their acres.
>> What's the name? What's the name
[2:01:24] [clears throat] on that?
>> Patricia D.
[2:01:27] » I don't care about that one.
>> Uh
[2:01:32] we could do Carl. They have 36 acres.
>> Duplicate names. Is there one with
[2:01:37] duplicate names?
>> Joplain's on here. David. Okay. What
[2:01:43] does he got?
>> I mean, he has some that are four
[2:01:46] tankers for $4,000.
>> So, he's right up against
[2:01:52] another one.
>> Okay. So, if he would he would he be
[2:01:57] paying on both of those parcels?
>> Yes.
[2:02:01] » Yeah. So,
>> so does he get two votes? So he would
[2:02:03] get two votes is how I would propose it
to the board.
[2:02:07] » Um and just so everybody's aware,
there's a hundred parcels that I've
[2:02:10] identified. So it's fairly easy.
>> So he would sign the petition twice,
[2:02:16] three times, four times.
>> And he actually owns, I think, seven
[2:02:19] total parcels.
>> And then he's got a sister there, too.
[2:02:22] And I can't remember her name.
>> Um that means he'll carry the vote all
[2:02:26] by himself.
[2:02:29] » He'll carry the vote all by himself.
He'll make this determination for us.
[2:02:33] » He could easily. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[2:02:36] » Cuz how many do we need? 75%.
>> So the Yep. The county's um Yeah.
[2:02:42] minimum of 75%
sign the petition for it to get
[2:02:46] approved.
[2:02:49] So I think one of the last petitions we
only had just over 50% and so those have
[2:02:54] been revised to a 75% threshold to get
approved.
[2:03:02] I'm comfortable. I would recommend
proportionally.
[2:03:08] » There's no way to be equitable, but
>> I'm with you. I think that's the way to
[2:03:12] go for us.
[2:03:15] » And the other option is I provide
basically this whole thing to to the
[2:03:21] petitioners and then they decide evenly
based off of acreage or proportionally.
[2:03:26] But
>> Tim Tim, [clears throat] you said the
[2:03:28] last time this was this happened, it was
a disaster.
[2:03:31] This was before Susan and I were what
made it a disaster. Can you explain a
[2:03:37] little bit?
>> You want me to go? We really don't have
[2:03:40] time to go back into that.
>> A lot of issues.
[2:03:43] » There was It was It was terrible.
>> Primary.
[2:03:48] » People were splitting land to get more
votes.
[2:03:51] » I think that we've developed a little
simpler process. Um I think part of the
[2:03:56] problem was our threshold was lower so
that there was a lot more discourse
[2:04:01] amongst the land owners. Putting the
threshold up at 75%
[2:04:06] gets you a lot more buy in from the
individuals who are going to be
[2:04:10] involved. So I think that helped. Um
I I think that there were there were
[2:04:15] lots of inconsistencies in the process
because we didn't really have a laid out
[2:04:18] process and now we do. So I think it
should be a little smoother. Yeah,
[2:04:23] » the petitioner was a problem. The
petitioner wanted to decide what parcels
[2:04:28] were in and which ones were out.
>> Yeah,
[2:04:30] » it was it was just there was nothing.
>> No, they're either all in or they're all
[2:04:33] out.
>> It was just there's nothing right about
[2:04:36] any of it.
>> You got a good basis to start with.
[2:04:40] » We don't have a basis. S we're working
on the basis. Unfortunately,
[2:04:44] » I thought you were talking about the
previous Let's go. I'm saying Andy has
[2:04:50] learned from that and what he's
presenting here kind of speaks to all of
[2:04:55] those concerns.
>> Do we need to determine the
[2:05:00] taxation part of it before
the petition goes to the people?
[2:05:06] » That's what he's got up there in the
right hand column. talked to the
[2:05:10] treasures department and they said they
didn't need anything until
[2:05:14] it's we get board approval to move
forward with it. So that would be after
[2:05:19] we get signatures, I come to the board
and say, "Hey, we got 80% by hand. Is
[2:05:24] the board comfortable moving forward
with that?" And then at that time, the
[2:05:27] board would vote yes, we're interested.
>> We should give them full disclosure
[2:05:31] before they vote, though.
>> I think it would be hard to give them.
[2:05:34] » You don't have this, do you?
>> They they need a number. Like if I were
[2:05:40] » right here, isn't that on there?
>> Yeah.
[2:05:43] » I I would want to know what
>> I've got that sheet right here.
[2:05:46] » Yeah. It puts it proportionately.
>> So I would hand
[2:05:51] » or zero.
>> Yeah.
[2:05:55] » I mean it has to be on there when they
we sign. They don't want to sign not
[2:06:00] knowing what they're going to pay every
year.
[2:06:03] » We're going to make people mad no matter
what. My vote is proportionate 0%.
[2:06:08] » I'm with you Keith.
>> I'll go along with that.
[2:06:12] Sounds good. Mr. Wman, what do you
think?
[2:06:18] We're not going to make people happy no
matter what. And it may not pass.
[2:06:23] » Well, the the only thing I would I would
say
[2:06:28] is that
Andy is going to spend,
[2:06:34] let's just call it a million dollars,
and it's going to take him 10 years to
[2:06:39] get paid back.
[2:06:42] And
that
[2:06:46] 100
just conversationwise at $100,000 a
[2:06:52] year.
Uh 4%
[2:06:56] » 4,000 a year.
>> I think that uh
[2:07:02] we're going to which we have to we have
to front the money.
[2:07:08] We should we probably should have some
sort of a return,
[2:07:12] » right? But it's $4,000 a year. We want
to do the project anyway. It may hinge
[2:07:17] on the project for being voted upon and
it's economic development if we get 16
[2:07:23] more houses on this.
>> Well, the residents want to do the road
[2:07:29] some.
>> Yeah, it may be not enough.
[2:07:32] » We may not get 75.
>> We may not get it. the the only thing
[2:07:36] that I shouldn't say the only thing
because
[2:07:40] um I think the major thing that needs to
happen here is we need to straighten the
[2:07:44] road. If we straighten the road,
I'm good with that. Whether it gets seal
[2:07:51] coated or it doesn't, I don't care. But
they care that they brought the bike,
[2:07:56] » they brought the petition to us. the
road straight city,
[2:08:01] » right?
>> And the biggest return on investment for
[2:08:03] us will be the improved property values
from them having paved roadways. Their
[2:08:09] home valuations are going to increase
>> and the possibility of 16 more houses.
[2:08:14] » Jim, that 205th Street
since it's been sealed, there's a lot of
[2:08:20] new homes on that. Lots.
>> A lot of poor people live on that road.
[2:08:26] » [clears throat]
>> Well, but [laughter]
[2:08:31] just one, [clears throat]
but it's uh I think that's re been a
[2:08:37] good return for us.
And the
[2:08:40] » and that was that was done in the '9s.
>> I I get it. But it really has come
[2:08:46] about. I think this will too. And I'm
not banking on that or anything, but I
[2:08:53] do think these people have been wanting
this for 30 years since since 2005th
[2:08:59] Street was and uh Badger Avenue was seal
coated and Mud Hollow. Mud Hollow has
[2:09:07] really come alive after that, too.
There's a lot of valuation there.
[2:09:13] » We can go back and forth all day. Let's
just come up with an idea. We're looking
[2:09:16] to grow this county and I think the
roads are key to
[2:09:21] getting these getting our county to
grow.
[2:09:24] » Well, it looks like a consensus is no no
interest and and uh and
[2:09:31] proportionally.
>> I can go either way on the interest, but
[2:09:35] I do I do want to see the
>> have a return.
[2:09:39] » Okay, I'll go 4% then.
I [clears throat] I uh
[2:09:44] » I I think $4,000 a year or whatever it
is, you know,
[2:09:50] I think it ain't going to matter much.
You get a credit card, it's what? 30% or
[2:09:56] 25 or whatever it is.
[2:10:03] » Yeah.
>> Most prudent people don't.
[2:10:09] » Susan, please calibrate it. You okay
with 4% proportion?
[2:10:15] » Yeah, I can live with it.
>> I'm always looking for the middle worst.
[2:10:23] » You know what? He's already put I agree
with Tim. It's We need a little bit of
[2:10:28] return.
>> Be careful.
[2:10:33] » Okay, I'll stop. Okay, we have
>> Tim. I got enough. I've used enough case
[2:10:36] time.
>> You okay with that?
[2:10:39] I um you know
>> 4%
[2:10:42] » seems to be okay with it. He's going to
spend a million dollars
[2:10:46] » and he's going to get
>> $100,000 a year back in property tax
[2:10:51] from that which he virtually pays for
[2:10:57] maintenance on a couple of road graders.
That's it.
[2:11:00] » And he has to front a million dollars.
[2:11:05] And good. And thankfully that'll be out
of FY28's budget, so it give me a little
[2:11:09] bit of time, but that is a valid
concern.
[2:11:12] » Okay.
All right. You got our nod.
[2:11:15] » Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Andy.
[2:11:18] » And Kristen, you'll look at the
ordinance about the gravel trucks and
[2:11:22] trucks.
>> Well, I thought we passed one.
[2:11:25] » I think there is an ordinance out there.
I don't know what it says or how it's
[2:11:30] worded. I before this is done.
>> No material hauling
[2:11:35] trucks to use the road.
>> That's the sec that's the second or
[2:11:41] third sign that's been up there though.
The first sign that went up was said no
[2:11:45] rock
>> no rock trucks and people also passed
[2:11:48] some legislation between when we did the
ordinance and now that might affect it a
[2:11:53] little bit because there there are some
>> she'll look into it. John and I talked
[2:11:57] about this when I first started here
because I'm filming was coming up then
[2:12:02] and so this was kind of on Marator
already. Um, but I'll look into it and
[2:12:07] see I if we are able to and we need to
update our ordinance, then we can do
[2:12:11] that once this has been.
>> We I would like for
[2:12:16] » it's on the list
>> for the board to
[2:12:19] either put an ordinance or a policy or
procedure together
[2:12:24] that spells out how we're how we do
this. I I don't think it should be a
[2:12:30] » case by case scenario.
>> I don't I think it should
[2:12:33] » I think you're right. You're right. So,
we have a really nicely written policy.
[2:12:36] I think maybe did you bring that in
front of the board
[2:12:39] back in the spring or was that
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[2:12:41] » in April.
>> Um I don't think that the the percentage
[2:12:46] was included in there and I don't think
that the the way that we assess was
[2:12:50] included because we wanted to leave it
up to the board. So, if the board wants
[2:12:53] to update that policy with those two
>> pieces of information, I think that's
[2:12:58] appropriate. I mean, I I if you're going
to have a interest rate, I wouldn't give
[2:13:03] it a percent interest rate. I think I
would do like a market to
[2:13:09] » tie it to the market.
>> Yeah. 2 to 10%.
[2:13:12] » I think right now it's zero.
>> But wouldn't we set the percentage when
[2:13:18] we come in? I mean, look at the Tim, we
remember years ago when it was 18%.
[2:13:26] You know,
>> yeah,
[2:13:27] » I think that's appropriate. And so the
current funds rate is 4% basically.
[2:13:30] » That's our most recent coupon rate for
the bond issuance was that 4%.
[2:13:36] » So I think that makes sense.
>> Andy, thank you.
[2:13:39] » Yeah, thank you for your time.
>> When will you get the petition to them?
[2:13:43] » I got to get a little bit more in
writing and then yeah, I'll send it out
[2:13:48] tomorrow or this week. Yeah, this week
for sure. [clears throat]
[2:13:53] » I'm sorry. Can I add one more thing
here?
[2:13:55] » Yes.
Did you notify everybody on Amarak?
[2:14:03] I have all the I haven't sent it out,
but I have all the addresses. I just
[2:14:07] need to get them added
>> uh to letters and sent out. So, we are
[2:14:13] notifying all the Tamarak residents. Um
that construction is going to start
[2:14:18] Monday.
>> It's starting next Monday,
[2:14:21] » the 14th.
>> That is Yeah, it is the last we got
[2:14:25] contractor. So,
>> well, they're more than ready. I can
[2:14:29] tell you. Yeah.
>> Do what you can to get those out today,
[2:14:32] tomorrow at the latest so they can get
that. Yeah.
[2:14:35] » And maybe put a couple signs out there.
Construction.
[2:14:39] » Yeah. That is priority number one.
>> Send it to the
[2:14:41] » They'll spread it amongst themselves.
>> Y please remember to do that. You make
[2:14:46] the board look bad when all of a sudden
the road gets shut down. There's flagmen
[2:14:50] out there and and nobody knows anything
about it. And remember Andy, we can make
[2:14:56] ourselves look bad pretty easy. So
[laughter]
[2:14:59] » I will try to keep you guys out of the
>> social media.
[2:15:02] » And they had it closed down today for
working on.
[2:15:07] Yes.
>> Okay.
[2:15:09] » Yeah. City of Minton did that.
>> Thanks, Andy. Tate, you're up next.
[2:15:12] [clears throat]
[2:15:15] It's going. I sat here long enough.
>> Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't think it was
[2:15:18] going to be
[2:15:21] » um
[2:15:27] I'm getting fixed because I think
Lindsette
[2:15:33] second
[2:15:42] county
>> this is at pace correct
[2:15:46] » yes and So, if you're familiar with that
space on the main floor when you walk in
[2:15:50] to the left, they do receptions and
other um notary and things like that.
[2:15:57] And that's where we will be. So, not in
the theater space to the right. So, uh,
[2:16:03] the main objective for today's final
study session, because it's officially
[2:16:08] next Monday, so we can't have a study
study session about it next week, is to
[2:16:14] make sure that we have a good flow um,
and that we're not kind of not
[2:16:19] necessarily stepping on each other's
toes, but that we're not repeating
[2:16:23] information that's being covered in
another section and that, um, it's
[2:16:27] fitting into the most logical places.
Um, I think all of you in the various
[2:16:34] pieces that you've shared with me,
whether it's through notes or kind of
[2:16:39] your speaker portions or through actual
slide outlines,
[2:16:44] um, have a pretty solid idea of what you
want to speak about, but I just want to
[2:16:48] make sure that um, we're not all hitting
on the same few things and that it looks
[2:16:54] like we all actually had a conversation
together.
[2:16:57] » Have you seen overlap with our slides? I
do feel like there's a little bit of
[2:17:01] overlap on a couple of topics. Um, and
so I just want to make sure we're
[2:17:04] putting those in the most logical
buckets, I guess. And some of it I think
[2:17:09] is okay. Um,
for my computer's going to die. Um,
[2:17:15] but some of it I think we want to be a
little bit more intentional about where
[2:17:18] we speak to things. So, um, Brian shared
with me some of his notes about
[2:17:24] preparing for growth. And Brian, I don't
you don't need to read through it all
[2:17:29] right now, but um do you have your notes
with you by chance?
[2:17:34] » My written notes,
>> the printed out ones that you showed me
[2:17:37] this morning?
>> I do.
[2:17:38] » Okay. Can you kind of share with the
group some of the the main kind of
[2:17:42] highle things that you want to speak to
since I don't have any of that in the
[2:17:45] slides yet?
[2:17:50] And just as a reminder for everybody,
Brian,
[2:17:52] » I go into a deal about roads and they're
the backbone of our economy and their
[2:17:56] our county.
Um
[2:18:00] they connect families to schools, jobs,
farmers, businesses, markets,
[2:18:07] residents
are major. Then I go into major
[2:18:11] subdivisions,
minor subdivisions, which of course
[2:18:15] would be
what we were just talking about kind of
[2:18:18] if there was more housing put on some of
these roads.
[2:18:23] Matt Wyatt and I looked over some of
that line kill and the way it kind of
[2:18:28] angles allows some to put two or three
homes on properties in the future and
[2:18:35] there are people looking for that. um
strong planning
[2:18:41] uh planning zoning department
uh momentum are our subdivisions
[2:18:49] that are common Legacy Ridge and Pioneer
Meadows
[2:18:53] and
Bob Ming's lot. Do you remember the name
[2:18:58] of his
>> Stony Brook?
[2:19:00] » Stony Brook.
>> Two or three.
[2:19:06] He's got 12 out there.
>> No, I meant Stony Brook has got one
[2:19:11] edition or
>> Oh, this is second,
[2:19:14] » but Stony Brook two
has new 12 and like 10 of them are
[2:19:21] some are being built
and there's a handful of them that are
[2:19:26] built. I can't remember the guy's name
over there on McFersonson east of the
[2:19:32] airport.
>> Peterson.
[2:19:34] » Peterson.
[2:19:38] What's the name of that project? Do you
remember?
[2:19:41] Peterson's project.
>> I don't recall.
[2:19:45] » And it was a 10 home.
>> And it has a stony brook in its
[2:19:50] driveway, too.
>> Stony
[2:19:56] Haven.
>> Not bitter about that.
[2:20:01] » Uh then I go into our little towns a
little bit. what we helped and one thing
[2:20:07] I needed help was didn't we we helped
Crescent Trainer and didn't we help
[2:20:12] Carter Lake with the project over there
with ARPA funds?
[2:20:17] » I sent a list to
uh
[2:20:22] Jeff, do you have that email list that I
sent to you that had all the different
[2:20:28] small towns where you had helped? get I
mean this my laptop here now is is
[2:20:34] battery's dead. All right. I might be
able to find it on my phone. Okay.
[2:20:38] » Then I want to go into how the schools
because each of our schools out in the
[2:20:44] county,
Trainer, AOKA,
[2:20:48] Oakland, uh, Tri Center and Underwood
attract a lot of people. and I go into
[2:20:57] what they've added in each little town
and how they're working on more land
[2:21:04] for development.
Um
[2:21:13] then I just touched base on
um
[2:21:18] people want a good quality of life. They
want safe place for their children to
[2:21:22] play, trails where families can walk and
bike and parks where they can enjoy the
[2:21:27] outdoors. That's where our conservation
department plays an important role. Um,
[2:21:33] a better place to live.
[2:21:38] They're not extras. They're just
amenities that we get to live with.
[2:21:44] healthy connected communities where
people put down roads, roots,
[2:21:50] uh,
[2:21:54] quality of life, private,
and then I talk about
[2:22:01] the
commercial development down south of uh,
[2:22:06] Lewis Central. I just touched base on
that how that's filled up and we there's
[2:22:13] more coming
and hopefully we continue to fill that
[2:22:18] spot
and grow the road
[2:22:25] viably
a piece at a time.
[2:22:30] » Great.
>> That's the overview. Okay.
[2:22:33] » Yep. And so this is the preparing for
growth section just as a reminder to
[2:22:36] everybody. Um,
so obviously responsible population,
[2:22:41] housing, economic growth, um,
development, race sites, which I really
[2:22:44] think that touches on all of that. Um,
does anybody have any questions for
[2:22:49] Brian on any of those points?
[2:22:56] » That was quick. That was easy.
>> Great.
[2:23:02] » What was that?
>> Said he's not done yet.
[2:23:05] » I'm not. Well, we don't know. We're
doing this, I guess.
[2:23:09] » Oh, okay.
>> Okay. So, then we go to Susan's section
[2:23:12] on investing responsibly. Um Susan
walked through her presentation with
[2:23:18] myself um and Matt Walsh on is that just
Friday?
[2:23:23] » Friday.
>> Um
[2:23:24] » and also with Tim.
>> Oh, great.
[2:23:26] » And then I've got a meeting with Stevie
on Thursday so that she can help me with
[2:23:30] the data behind some of the tables. And
so Susan's section um is definitely more
[2:23:37] chart focused and graphs and because
obviously there's a lot of data
[2:23:40] supporting this um and obviously Susan
I'll let you kind of take it away from
[2:23:46] there but
basically it's just talking about the
[2:23:50] levy rates and how they were pretty
stagnant back in 2021 and that they
[2:23:57] truly have been coming down.
And if you go on to the next slide
[2:24:02] where we could be
charging property taxes but we're not.
[2:24:09] And the next slide
>> the bottom one's us correct.
[2:24:13] » Yes. The bottom one's us.
>> What's the top one? The green one.
[2:24:17] » The average in the state
>> estimated what we could collect.
[2:24:20] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[2:24:21] » And that average of the state.
>> No, this is estimated based on uh our
[2:24:28] » No, the green one. Yeah, that's based on
what we could be asking for from the
[2:24:34] » growth of the values of correct
>> based on that and changes in levy rates
[2:24:40] of what we can collect.
[2:24:45] Then just some photos of what's going on
with the counties and I've got some
[2:24:49] speaking points to recorder's office and
[clears throat]
[2:24:54] I don't have my slides in or my material
in front of me. That's fine. I just
[2:24:59] wanted you to be able to touch on a few
of the main points in your section so
[2:25:03] that again as we go through if we start
to feel like we're hearing things
[2:25:06] multiple times um or anything like that
that we can adjust.
[2:25:11] » Are you going to change that one
picture?
[2:25:13] » Yes. The one on the very front.
>> Yeah.
[2:25:16] » Yeah.
>> Which one? Yeah. Which one?
[2:25:19] » The deputy's car. Oh.
>> Oh, yeah. I was wondering what that why
[2:25:23] was that up there? Well, Kate was
helping me find
[2:25:27] » It's hard to find some photos that work
for some of these topics, Tim. I'll be
[2:25:30] honest. Um, I was trying to find
something that was communicating, you
[2:25:36] know, some of the investment in 911 and
things and we don't have a lot of
[2:25:40] photos.
>> Shiny Chrome is easier than 911 tower.
[2:25:45] » Yeah.
[2:25:49] And then when we go to this real busy
slide, it's got a whole bunch of
[2:25:53] information in there. And I'm planning
to have handouts made of my slides with
[2:26:01] some of the definitions that speak to
it'll have narrative that explains what
[2:26:07] capital projects are, each of those
categories, what's bucketed into it. And
[2:26:14] Tim wants me to be able to answer
questions when they say, "Well, your
[2:26:20] capital projects went from 3% to 18%.
Why? What is that? How did that happen?"
[2:26:27] So, I've got to be prepared for all of
that. But basically, that's
[2:26:34] that's how the county is funded and
operated.
[2:26:40] And then for 2026 27 this is how our
budget is and over 50% is between
[2:26:50] um this public safety and legal services
>> louder public safety and legal services
[2:26:58] is the biggest blue one.
>> Well we should cut that legal service
[2:27:03] deal. [laughter]
>> Yeah and roads and transportation is
[2:27:06] your next biggest blue one there.
>> Yeah. So over 50% fall into both of
[2:27:11] those categories
[2:27:15] there. Again, it's just a high level.
>> Be interesting to see them broken up
[2:27:19] though. Public service and legal
services.
[2:27:23] » I'm really hoping that somebody doesn't
want to call out to have us explain what
[2:27:26] we spend our legal services for.
But this is the budget.
[2:27:33] This is the budget we're currently
operating under.
[2:27:37] And then I think the rest of my slide,
yeah, we go back and we talk more about
[2:27:41] the capital projects, specifically the
911 communications
[2:27:46] and
>> Oh, yeah.
[2:27:50] » Then I've got some more photos I need to
put in.
[2:27:53] » Um, one of the things I talk about is
cyber security and how that's something
[2:27:58] that's relatively new in the last five
years that we never had to fund for
[2:28:04] before.
And then the 911 communications, how
[2:28:08] that's going to set us up for success
for at least the next 15, 20 years and
[2:28:13] how it interacts with all of the other
counties around us.
[2:28:20] And then
[2:28:23] yeah, when we're speaking to how we're
investing the county's future, did I
[2:28:27] have a slide after that one?
>> You do have this slide.
[2:28:31] Oh, and then I want to talk about GIS
and the importance of keeping track of
[2:28:38] addresses and making sure that we are
set up for a good census in 2030 because
[2:28:45] every person helps fund.
I mean, the census numbers do a lot and
[2:28:52] I just explained that and how our GIS
works with all of the small cities to
[2:28:58] make sure that their addressing is all
correct and that we're counting for
[2:29:02] everybody.
And then we talk about Tamarak Road and
[2:29:06] how it's starting that day.
um our process for budget and how we
[2:29:13] work with the department heads and we
have multiple study sessions
[2:29:19] we just determine how we're going to
move forward. So
[2:29:26] how we're investing is that mine
>> I think that at this point is just a
[2:29:30] duplicate slide now because I feel like
you've essentially answered that on the
[2:29:33] previous slide.
>> Brian, do you cover Tamarak in your
[2:29:36] section or is it okay for Susan to have
that? I would prefer you did it.
[2:29:41] » Okay, that's fine.
>> No, I I I have not touched base on that.
[2:29:47] » The two slides are a little different.
One says, "How are we investing in the
[2:29:50] county's future?" The other one says,
"How are we investing the county's
[2:29:53] future?"
>> So, you need
[2:29:57] » I know you're going to pull one of them,
but pull the one that doesn't have the N
[2:30:00] in it.
>> Yeah. I I've got some clean up to do,
[2:30:03] but I've got my narrative all written.
>> Yep.
[2:30:07] » Okay. Um, any questions for Susan's
section from any of you right now?
[2:30:14] » And I can I can send you my talking
points.
[2:30:18] » Bye.
>> You got them.
[2:30:21] » Um, so then we go to Keith. Um, I know
you had asked for the photo of Jeff. Um,
[2:30:28] I don't know that I love having it on
this divider slide because I feel like
[2:30:34] instead of it's about people behind
county government and this is very much
[2:30:37] a person singular. Um, so
>> I'm going to talk about Jeff and his
[2:30:43] importance with economic development
through the parks. So there's a reason
[2:30:47] why I wanted Jeff.
>> Okay.
[2:30:50] » If you want a different picture of Jeff,
I completely understand. There's a
[2:30:54] reason why I want Jeff.
>> Okay.
[2:30:58] and not like more from his
>> and here's why. I'm going to introduce
[2:31:02] the picture say this is Jeff. He's our
director of uh conservation for Paw
[2:31:06] County. Believe it or not, he might be
one of the most important people in this
[2:31:10] room when it comes to economic
development and we will talk more about
[2:31:13] that later. My name is Keith Jones. I
have the pleasure of talking with you
[2:31:16] today about the amazing people of
Padawani County. I'm going to do that on
[2:31:20] two different levels. One are the
amazing citizens that we serve. one are
[2:31:25] the um the public employees who give the
services to me. That's how I'm going to
[2:31:31] start.
The concept is simple. We have a cycle
[2:31:36] of service that starts with our
residents who vote for the board of
[2:31:40] supervisors. I can't I'm sorry. I should
be looking at my own. Um the most
[2:31:45] important thing that we do as
supervisors is spend other people's
[2:31:48] money. We do so by putting together a
budget and loving your tax dollars. Um
[2:31:53] and then the second most important thing
that we do is surround ourselves with
[2:31:56] amazing people who are department heads.
Those people will then employ over 500
[2:32:02] employees who give back essential
services to our employees. Next slide.
[2:32:09] Here are some of the things that we
provide as a county. Most of those
[2:32:13] things you will see are pretty basic.
Next one.
[2:32:18] And this is yours, Kate. Um, you know, I
guess I can further say that our
[2:32:24] services are broken down in four
different ways. We protect and respond.
[2:32:28] » Yeah. Basically, I just took your
information and tried to format it in a
[2:32:31] way that was more visual and um a little
more categorized instead of just being
[2:32:37] like one long list.
>> Right. Okay. Next slide.
[2:32:43] Um,
>> and this is as far as I'd gotten, so I
[2:32:47] have not reformatted from here. But also
with some of these, I wanted to make
[2:32:49] sure we talked through some of this to
make sure that we weren't repeating a
[2:32:54] lot of the tax levy things that Susan
would have just talked about.
[2:32:58] » All right, hold on for a second. If you
go back to her slide,
[2:33:02] go back. No, go back again.
Okay, I'm Did you take out a bunch of my
[2:33:09] slides? This is all the information that
you had just reformatted and anything
[2:33:14] that I did reformat I hid. I didn't
delete. So, it's all still there. We
[2:33:18] could go back and reference it if we
need to.
[2:33:21] » Right. So, I have our functions and our
mandates by Iowa code. That's important
[2:33:25] for me.
>> Um,
[2:33:28] » so on I have all my original slides.
>> Can you flip to the next? Sorry, Stevie.
[2:33:38] Not I don't even have that on my slide
deck.
[2:33:41] » Well, this was the one about the talent
with the new detention officers and
[2:33:46] everything. So, this was your content
just reformatted. Um,
[2:33:53] I can't pull up my computer because it
died. So,
[2:33:56] » um,
okay. So, I'm going to talk about our
[2:33:59] functions. We have to have a courthouse
and it's mandated by Iowa State Code. We
[2:34:04] have to have a sheriff and is mandated
by Iowa code. We have to have a jail, a
[2:34:08] recorder, an attorney, so forth and so
on. Most of that stuff is pretty basic.
[2:34:13] But what you don't know is the fact that
we have to have a health department. We
[2:34:16] also have to give behavioral health
services. And then here's something that
[2:34:20] you probably never thought about. We
also have to offer rent assistance by
[2:34:24] the Iowa code.
>> Um, and then what I'm going to say is
[2:34:28] our functions are statutory. We are not
a business. And here's a hard
[2:34:32] conversation. Most of the people in this
room live very good lives. They don't
[2:34:36] live like kings or queens or rock stars,
but we can, you know, we have cars to
[2:34:43] drive. We have roofs over our houses,
but there are many people in Padawani
[2:34:47] County that need our services.
Which takes me to the next slide, which
[2:34:52] that's the one that had your picture on
it.
[2:34:55] » That's this. No.
>> All right. Stop right there. It says
[2:35:00] county property taxes are about 20%.
That's only if you live in the corporate
[2:35:06] limits of a city.
>> Correct. Or most of us.
[2:35:09] » Okay.
>> So, don't Yeah, that's not true.
[2:35:12] » Right. Okay. So, for most of us, which
is 66% of the county, that is that is
[2:35:19] correct. And I'll explain it when I get
there. If you don't feel good about it,
[2:35:23] then I'll take it out. But we're going
to have a lot of people who say, "I pay
[2:35:27] all these taxes when in fact most of the
taxes are the schools in the city."
[2:35:33] And I'd like to touch on that without
making people mad.
[2:35:36] » But did we cover that enough in how
Susan broke out the levy and the
[2:35:42] property tax or do you feel like this is
>> I don't think she really did break out
[2:35:47] there. shoot our that levy breakout is
really just the different areas of our
[2:35:52] levy. We really didn't touch on
connecting jurisdictions.
[2:35:58] » Okay, before this slide, this is the
slide I actually have. I I'm going to
[2:36:02] talk about the personal highlights this
year. We added a department head and
[2:36:05] that is Kate Gerber. We added four new
jailers. We are added a sheriff's
[2:36:09] department process server who also does
things for
[2:36:14] the sex abuse registry. And believe it
or not, we have 315 people on that
[2:36:18] registry that she has to help keep track
of. I think that'll be good for people
[2:36:22] to know that she stays very busy. Andy
Wixs also reorganized secondary roads
[2:36:27] for greater efficiency. Dr. Elliot will
be leaving soon. We need to finance a
[2:36:31] replacement.
>> Actually,
[2:36:34] he [clears throat] said he would
continue on.
[2:36:36] » Okay. Well, then I'll take that.
>> I thought I'd mention that to everybody.
[2:36:39] He called me and
told me he would continue on.
[2:36:46] There's still long-term succession
planning with him though, right? Because
[2:36:49] isn't it only for a year or is he
continuing on inevit definitely
[2:36:53] » years I think is what I was going to
say. I think it's we should start
[2:36:57] looking for somebody because it will
probably take a while to get something.
[2:37:00] » I think you can still refer to it as
succession planning.
[2:37:05] Um, and then like I said on my other
slide that I had before, employee
[2:37:09] turnover is always a significant issue,
especially when it comes to the
[2:37:12] sheriff's department and the jail.
[2:37:18] Okay. And then I get to this one. Okay.
This is a hard conversation. The board
[2:37:23] of supervisors can reduce your property
taxes. Keeping in mind that about 20% of
[2:37:28] your taxes of the people here comes from
the county. That means cutting employees
[2:37:33] who provide services. 80% of our budget
is personnel. County employees only
[2:37:38] received a 3% raise this year. The
consumer price index was 2.8%.
[2:37:43] So if we cut your property taxes, we
have to ask ourselves, what services do
[2:37:49] we cut?
If that's too blatant, I'll take it out.
[2:37:54] But I think it's something
>> I think that's important for people to
[2:37:58] realize.
>> You know, we we get this conversation
[2:38:00] quite often. I want my property taxes
lowered. Great. What do we cut? Because
[2:38:04] it's literally to that point. And I
think we need to frame it that way. We
[2:38:08] need to be straight with these people.
They're business people and they're
[2:38:12] prominent people in our community.
They're going to understand
[2:38:17] there's a trade-off.
>> I think it's huge. You show the
[2:38:21] percentage
of schools,
[2:38:26] your city taxes, and the county taxes.
Well, I don't want to get into a fight
[2:38:30] because I know we're going to have
people from the city and probably even
[2:38:33] the schools there, too. I don't want to
get into a shouting match, pointing
[2:38:37] match, or whatever you want to call it.
But when you look at the property taxes,
[2:38:43] we're not as big as the city or the
schools, and people need to know that.
[2:38:48] » Okay,
>> my schools are 62.
[2:38:50] » And then be negligent of me not to talk
about artificial intelligence. I'll
[2:38:54] touch about that real fast. And then I
get into this whole thing with if you go
[2:38:59] to the next slide,
county does have a problem. It's
[2:39:04] something you probably never thought of.
No, it's not muppet vampires. It's
[2:39:09] stagnant population. I'll talk about the
census over the last six times and how
[2:39:14] we really [clears throat] haven't moved.
And even the state of Iowa had a decline
[2:39:18] of 3%.
Next one.
[2:39:22] And without population growth, we don't
have economic development or an
[2:39:26] expansion of the tax base.
Basically, the same people, the same
[2:39:31] property owners have been paying our
property taxes for the last 50 years.
[2:39:37] Okay. So then as a community, we need
innovative solutions to uh attract and
[2:39:42] retain people, preferably younger
people, and that's because they're going
[2:39:47] to be our workforce and our future
leaders. Next slide. Our
[2:39:54] goal is to set an environment
um so that we can attract and retain um
[2:40:00] businesses
[2:40:04] uh which will bring a workforce here.
That means we should try to worry about
[2:40:07] low property taxes and fees, better
infrastructure, better services, and
[2:40:13] maintaining public safety. And we have a
real problem with that that maybe
[2:40:16] haven't thought about it, and that's
rural EMT coverage.
[2:40:20] Young people seek experiences.
My final slide. I come back to Jeff.
[2:40:27] That my final slide. No, I don't I have
one more. When young families relocate,
[2:40:32] they look at this school systems,
recreational opportunities, and the the
[2:40:36] economics of the move. And that brings
us back to Jeff Franco. Believe it or
[2:40:41] not,
our county conservation can separate us
[2:40:45] from other communities. We have Botna
Bend, Air Park, Hitchcock, the trail
[2:40:50] centers, and even the ski hill.
>> Old old town. Don't forget Oldtown in
[2:40:55] there. Okay.
>> Then finally, even the governor thinks
[2:41:00] that we're moving in the right
direction. I encourage you today to go
[2:41:04] outside and enjoy your parks
[2:41:10] » right now.
>> Well, let's wait for a couple minutes.
[2:41:14] Thoughts?
Have I strayed too much from what you
[2:41:19] guys thought?
>> I I think a lot of what you're talking
[2:41:23] about strategically about cutting cost
and stuff is kind of what I've already
[2:41:29] touched in with the narrative that I
didn't tell you about. But
[2:41:34] » well, keep in mind I'm only going to
talk for a second about cutting costs,
[2:41:38] and that is there's a trade-off. We can
cut your property levy, but we're going
[2:41:43] to lose services. That's literally as
far as I'm going to go.
[2:41:49] » That needs to be said somewhere in this
presentation.
[2:41:52] » It's a hard conversation that people
don't want to hear, but I mean, they're
[2:41:56] all professionals.
>> Yeah, I think connecting it back to the
[2:42:00] people who provide the services helps
keep it relevant to your section. Um,
[2:42:05] the AI slide threw me a little bit as
kind of a like random topic shift. Um,
[2:42:12] so I don't know, part of that might just
be that it didn't have as much context
[2:42:16] as I'm, you know, just clicking through
slides and everything
[2:42:19] » of the workforce to AI. We don't know
when that's going to happen. My guess is
[2:42:22] the time arises two to five years. But
for, I mean, the treasurer's office and
[2:42:28] the auditor's office, if the auditor
does 600,000 payments a year, at some
[2:42:33] time or another,
deficiencies will take over and we will
[2:42:37] lose people from that office. Do you
want to also mention anything about the
[2:42:42] county having an AI policy or an AI
committee or anything like that? Or
[2:42:46] » the AI policy at this point basically
says we're not going to we're not going
[2:42:51] to use let AI come up with our ideas. I
don't know how that's going to affect
[2:42:56] the community as a large
>> at large.
[2:43:06] Right. Does anybody else have any
question? I'm trying to be careful and
[2:43:09] I'm not going to say
>> we're going to step on each other just a
[2:43:13] smidge human.
>> I just wanted to look intentional, I
[2:43:17] guess, and as if you're reinforcing each
other's points versus if you're trying
[2:43:21] to remake someone's point or as if you
think you're the one who's making it for
[2:43:25] the first time when someone has just
heard it. Like, I just don't want it to
[2:43:29] look like four completely distinct
presentations that never met each other
[2:43:35] before 11:30 a.m. on Monday. the 14th.
That's really what I'm hoping for at
[2:43:41] this point.
>> Okay.
[2:43:44] » So, does anybody else have any other
questions or I'm just kind of looking
[2:43:49] back through to see so because
people behind county government. I mean,
[2:43:55] we're on topic here. That's
>> and I've got to update the employee
[2:44:00] number because I want to make sure that
we're using the same number throughout
[2:44:02] as well, which is 500 plus. So, anytime
you're referencing the number of
[2:44:06] employees, we're saying 500 plus or more
than 500, however you feels comfortable
[2:44:11] for you to say that um because we had it
mentioned in like three different
[2:44:14] numbers in everyone's p section of the
presentation. So, we pulled that
[2:44:18] directly from our wonderful payroll team
uh to make sure that we're using the
[2:44:22] most accurate number possible
>> and over 80% goes for wages. Correct.
[2:44:27] » Where did that come from?
>> What directly from Kelly?
[2:44:30] » 80% of being the personnel cost. What's
the actual number?
[2:44:35] » Because I had Becky run it twice in
within about three months before she
[2:44:39] left and it's from her and you know
she's wrong. She's wrong. That's fine.
[2:44:44] But what she kept came up with
consistently was about 48 49%.
[2:44:50] Which
I mean if you think about it 80 I heard
[2:44:55] I heard one of you say 83%. That leaves
17% of the budget to buy all the
[2:44:59] sheriff's cars, to do all the paving to
I mean that's I don't know. I I just And
[2:45:04] maybe there's a Stevie, have you run
those?
[2:45:07] » I haven't run it, but I'm making a note.
I will run it and we'll get some firmer
[2:45:11] numbers up there.
[2:45:16] » Yeah, the jail's $20 million, although a
lot of that is personnel.
[2:45:22] Roads is $20 million.
A lot of that's personnel. I don't know.
[2:45:27] » Yeah, I couldn't quote it for you right
now, but yeah, I'll get you something
[2:45:33] » more backed up. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, Stevie, sorry. You were saying
[2:45:37] » um I do agree this one does feel very
different and just looking at the fates
[2:45:41] of it, it doesn't really tie it back
directly to people, but I think you can
[2:45:44] tweak it. So, you can say
>> artificial intelligence might be um
[2:45:50] [snorts] you might feel like it's
jeopardizing our employees or something.
[2:45:55] » Let me ask you this. If I don't bring up
AI, who will? Somebody needs
[2:45:59] » That's a good question.
>> Uh,
[2:46:01] » yeah,
>> it's gonna be a very relevant issue and
[2:46:03] somebody should at least touch on it.
>> Yeah, and I think I think you're on the
[2:46:06] right track. I think it just needs to be
tweaked because we're talking about
[2:46:09] we're bringing in new talent. Um, we're
mainly up to this point talking about
[2:46:14] our employees. So I think if you kind of
just tweak it a little bit and say our
[2:46:19] employees, you know, we're putting in
steps to make sure that our employees
[2:46:23] are not going to face the challenges of
artificial intelligence replacing a lot
[2:46:28] of their duties.
>> We're not
[2:46:31] » we're not doing that yet. We don't know
how it's going to affect us. It
[2:46:34] certainly will affect us in the next two
to five years.
[2:46:37] » Yeah.
>> And that's all I'm going to say. We
[2:46:39] don't know how it's going to affect us,
but it will. And it will affect us when
[2:46:43] it comes to employees. There's no doubt.
Yes. Okay. Uh
[2:46:49] » and correct me if I'm wrong on that.
>> And then this moves to population.
[2:46:53] I think the unknown is what's true. I I
agree with that.
[2:46:59] So you shift from county employees to
population. I think that's a good shift
[2:47:03] because it's still
what we're looking at people
[2:47:08] always dealt with.
And I did like
[2:47:13] » and you're saying it ironically that
it's a problem that no one has thought
[2:47:16] of, right?
>> Well, the chamber has thought about it,
[2:47:19] » right?
>> But the [clears throat] audiences at
[2:47:23] large probably hasn't.
>> You know, they probably audience at a
[2:47:27] chamber event has been forced to think
about it.
[2:47:33] » You guys talk about it all the time. Um,
I mean, at the midyear meeting, um,
[2:47:39] Chris Lefera introduced himself as, "My
name is Chris Lefera and I care about
[2:47:43] population growth and council bluffs.
It's nice to meet you." And if you
[2:47:46] haven't heard me say that, then we've
never met.
[2:47:48] » The state of the county is for the
public. It happens to be hosted by the
[2:47:52] Chamber of Commerce.
>> But it's not a public event. It's a
[2:47:55] ticketed event still through the
Chamber. Is it?
[2:47:57] » It'll be covered by media outlets.
Hopefully, there will be a story from
[2:48:01] the Napil. And will there be news
stations there or not?
[2:48:07] » Um, I don't know how much news coverage
this one typically gets.
[2:48:11] » Probably not. Probably not cameras.
>> So, you're saying [clears throat] this
[2:48:14] should all be patterned toward the
Chamber of Commerce?
[2:48:18] » No, not necessarily. I just knowing how
of the 92 people that are registered for
[2:48:23] this event right now, because those are
the ones that you know you have are the
[2:48:26] ones who are going to be in the room.
There's no guarantee for any visibility
[2:48:29] beyond that. um making sure that we are
not coming across as
[2:48:36] believing that we're saying something
for the first time that this room has
[2:48:40] likely heard many times because it is
often
[2:48:43] » a very repetitive
>> observation could be a part of the
[2:48:47] economic development of this town or
this area. They probably never thought
[2:48:52] of that connection before.
They think in terms of hey we want more
[2:48:56] businesses. We can't have more
businesses if we don't have young
[2:48:59] people. And the young people deserve or
they I'm sorry, they seek experiences
[2:49:04] which will be satisfied in our
conservation.
[2:49:08] » I mean, I don't know if they ever heard
of that twist before, which I'm going to
[2:49:12] be bringing.
[clears throat]
[2:49:14] Help me.
>> No, I think that's fine. Like I said, I
[2:49:17] just I I don't want us to try and
deliver a message that
[2:49:24] they have heard. Obviously, there's
elements of it that they haven't
[2:49:28] necessarily, but
I guess part of it when I was trying to
[2:49:33] clean up slides and make edits and
things is I couldn't quite tell the tone
[2:49:37] with certain things and what direction
you wanted that to go like with the
[2:49:42] Muppet or the Sesame Street character.
>> I'll take that out. I was just trying to
[2:49:46] think of something scary.
We don't even
[2:49:50] » Okay,
>> we have a problem and you have a
[2:49:53] » because I was like trying to figure out
I was like is it specifically about it
[2:49:56] being count? Like are we talking about
counting things?
[2:49:58] » So that's the ironic is he's also a
counterhu
[2:50:00] » you know what I mean?
>> Okay.
[2:50:04] » I'm challenging the minds as well as
and again if you want it out I'll take
[2:50:09] it out. I'm just trying to think of
something scary.
[2:50:13] » Sure. But ironically, it's it counts.
And we're talking about population.
[2:50:22] [clears throat]
>> Get it now that you explain it.
[2:50:24] [laughter]
>> Like I said, I'm trying to be uh cutting
[2:50:27] edge.
>> You are, Keith.
[2:50:31] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Anything else for this section?
[2:50:34] » If you want me to tweak it, let me know
now.
[2:50:37] » Yeah. And we can talk about I'll go back
and look at the hidden slides and make
[2:50:41] sure that everything is
>> I'll do my own slides. I don't mind
[2:50:44] that. I thought you wanted to format
slides so they all look the same, but I
[2:50:49] want to use my slides.
>> Okay.
[2:50:51] » So,
if you want I mean I'll I'll clean up my
[2:50:56] slides, but like I said, I thought you
wanted all four.
[2:50:59] » Yeah, I was trying to give it like I
said more like the visual element with
[2:51:02] like the cycle versus it just being like
this this this this like bullet points
[2:51:06] and so but I felt like I retained the
content. If you don't feel like it's
[2:51:09] there, then we can look at it. I want to
keep it real to the point. Um, and then
[2:51:15] I'll give the narrative.
>> Okay.
[2:51:20] » Okay. Anything else on that?
>> I introduce Jeff. Correct.
[2:51:24] » Yep.
>> Yeah. You guys all introduce the next
[2:51:26] person who follows you.
>> Put your hands together for Jeff
[2:51:29] Jorgensson.
>> A lot of feedback on that one, Keith.
[2:51:33] Thanks for thanks for listening to us.
So then we go to Jeff with one county
[2:51:37] connected communities talking about
connecting and serving a geographically
[2:51:41] diverse county.
>> Yeah. [clears throat] Uh you know I
[2:51:45] don't I'm not going to have a lot of
slides period. The one slide that I
[2:51:48] would suggest adding is the list of
communities that are in water county. I
[2:51:52] think there's 14 maybe 15 if uh if you
count BBtown as an unincorporated
[2:51:58] community. Uh but I'm just going to
basically come out and
[2:52:03] » come out and u uh just just explain I
guess Ottawa County how the supervisors
[2:52:08] interact with you know the different
residents and businesses in Baltimore
[2:52:13] County and you know there's a whole
plethora of ways that we do that. Uh,
[2:52:16] one of the things that I was amazed at
when I first got on the board was the
[2:52:20] the number of
organizations [clears throat]
[2:52:23] and and u and uh those kinds of things
that that we were asked all of us were
[2:52:28] asked to sit on and you know counseling
governing boards for instance you know
[2:52:35] or whatever uh observers uh you know
there's there's [clears throat] a whole
[2:52:39] plethora of those uh those uh agencies
that were in and asked to get involved.
[2:52:46] with and also um you know the residents
come into the to the courthouse and and
[2:52:51] uh do presentations before the board and
that's another thing that you know I was
[2:52:56] going to be mentioning uh as a way to
interact. Um also um the different uh
[2:53:03] departments and that we have that uh uh
that that go out into the county. Uh,
[2:53:09] one of them is our uh, veterans services
organization, you know, that service all
[2:53:15] the uh, military veterans in Baltimore
County and get them involved, get them
[2:53:20] registered, uh, you know, whatever
services that that they uh, they have
[2:53:24] coming to them. Uh also uh different
ways that we interact uh our elections
[2:53:30] office, you know, we got 40 different
precincts in Pawatami County and uh we
[2:53:37] we
do the do the ballot counting for all of
[2:53:41] those precincts. Uh so that's that's
basically touching base with the with
[2:53:46] the
people who are voters in order county.
[2:53:51] uh the waterway um
linkage whatever you know introducing uh
[2:53:58] the different things are going on in the
county you know to to the rest of us in
[2:54:03] the county that might not know uh what's
happening in trainer Iowa hudoo days or
[2:54:09] whatever you know I mean just an
interaction
[2:54:12] take out those those things and um I'm g
say it again no there's a I mean are you
[2:54:19] okay with with as as a few uh
slides as possible.
[2:54:25] » Yeah, I think that's fine. Um
[2:54:30] » we had talked a little bit about the
funding not including that including
[2:54:34] that. Um so I don't know if you wanted
to talk to the group about that to get
[2:54:38] their thoughts.
>> I was just mentioning the the funding.
[2:54:42] Uh I'm going to say you recommended we
not mentioned that. I I would
[2:54:46] » at least not the specific dollar amounts
would be my opinion.
[2:54:49] » But but how
whatever businesses or whatever
[2:54:53] charities come to before the board, you
know, they're they're out in the county.
[2:54:58] They come before the board, do their
presentation, and then you find a way to
[2:55:02] respond. Uh sometimes that's, you know,
a dollar donation or dollar, you know,
[2:55:07] financial assistance, which is great. Uh
I I think it'd be worth mentioning
[2:55:12] yourself.
>> Maybe use the word nonprofit
[2:55:16] instead of
>> Well, I there's there's a whole there's
[2:55:20] always there's a list. Um you do you
have that?
[2:55:23] » Yeah, my computer is dead. Um but it was
uh Swida Sco um I don't know that if
[2:55:31] Wida was on the list or not. Um Pace was
on there. That was one of the things
[2:55:36] that was
>> I was gonna
[2:55:38] » since I'm on those boards I was going to
do
[2:55:41] that's on my other notes I didn't
>> um it's not in the slides yet because I
[2:55:46] want that was one that I wanted us to
talk about as a group to get thoughts on
[2:55:51] how to include that or what to include.
Um,
[2:55:59] » uh, yeah, I've got a list of of
the agencies. I was going to mention
[2:56:06] veteran services, the Council of Gloss
Conservation and Visitors Bureau, uh,
[2:56:09] the Pond County Elections Office, uh,
Recorders Traveling Office hours, and
[2:56:15] 911 operations, which all has to deal
with Ottawa Countyy's big county. That's
[2:56:21] what kind of the theme I was going on.
you know, how do we get out into the
[2:56:25] county uh with uh with services and and
whatever needs to be attended to for
[2:56:31] county residents and our county
business.
[2:56:33] » Then also I was going to mention uh
public hearings. You know, the county
[2:56:38] has been out or the county supervisors
have been out into the county to do town
[2:56:43] hall meetings.
Big one was of course the windmill
[2:56:47] issue. you know, we went out and did uh
did uh town hall meetings and you know,
[2:56:53] kind of getting people's feedback, you
know, and which is which I think is a
[2:56:58] great way to
>> Thanks, Kristen.
[2:57:01] » And uh
>> Oh, I thought you were leaving.
[2:57:04] » And so that and and so that's where I
was I was just going to have an open
[2:57:07] discussion of how we interact with our
with our county residents and our fans
[2:57:13] that seem like a workable workable plan.
>> Yeah. And I want to get this group's
[2:57:20] opinion as well because I've seen the
list of organizations and everything,
[2:57:24] but I want to make sure that everyone
else up here is on board as well.
[2:57:32] » Are you mentioning Southwest Iowa and
Wida
[2:57:36] » as my section? No, I think
>> Okay. Because that was one of the
[2:57:40] things. Are you
>> No, I think that falls into Jeff's
[2:57:43] category.
>> Okay. I was trying to steer clear, but
[2:57:46] it could be in mine also.
>> Well, I just I just mentioned it as as
[2:57:53] you know.
>> I think Advanced Southwest Iowa very
[2:57:56] much does still fit into yours
specifically in terms of growth. Um
[2:58:01] that's their whole mission especially in
terms of the rural part of the county.
[2:58:05] So I would not not mention them and same
with Wida obviously as the rural
[2:58:09] chamber. Uh I think that's very
important for you to include. Yes. those
[2:58:13] two specifically
>> and then with unleash CB and Pawatami
[2:58:17] County Tourism I'm also on those
and I
[2:58:22] » le I think it's less about whether
you're on the board and whether it
[2:58:25] connects back to growth.
>> Okay.
[2:58:28] » I was going to mention that because
again it's an interaction
[2:58:31] » then I'll do advance southwest Iowa.
>> Yeah.
[2:58:35] » Yeah. And again that's where I think
it's okay because you're reinforcing
[2:58:38] something and you're talking about it
from a growth angle. You're talking
[2:58:42] about it from a we're a big county.
We're geographically spread out. We need
[2:58:46] these organizations and that's why the
county engages with them is because they
[2:58:49] help support the work that the county is
wants to do and that the county believes
[2:58:53] in.
>> I know I know 911's part of the
[2:58:56] sheriff's department, but 911 and they
they are in contact with all the fire
[2:59:02] and rescue uh operations that are out
there. uh and they got contact
[2:59:08] information, contact numbers, you know,
they know who they know who to call if
[2:59:13] something is going on out there. And
that again, that's an interaction with
[2:59:16] the county and residents of counties.
>> You have all this written down
[2:59:22] somewhere, Jeff,
>> in my mind. I I I took I took uh uh
[2:59:26] Brian's suggestion. I said, "Wing it,
[laughter]
[2:59:32] » but you got to write something down."
>> Well, yeah. Well, I'm gonna have notes.
[2:59:34] I mean, uh, you know, I I I'm just going
to go up there. Just
[2:59:38] » The other thing I wanted to ask about
was wind and [clears throat]
[2:59:43] data centers.
>> You want me to give you some help with
[2:59:47] that?
>> Do we mention it or not?
[2:59:49] » No, it's going to be a question though.
With with data centers,
[2:59:54] um, they are not permitted in this
county.
[2:59:56] » I got that. All you have to say, but I
haven't
[2:59:58] » Don't say anything else.
>> Okay.
[3:00:00] » Well, there's a second part to that.
There are absolutely no projects slated
[3:00:04] for the county.
And then if they ask about when you we
[3:00:10] have an ordinance
that um
[3:00:15] » determines
where a wind farm can be located.
[3:00:22] » I just want to touch on it briefly.
>> I wouldn't even touch on it unless they
[3:00:25] ask a question.
>> Okay. That's why I wanted to ask
[3:00:29] » they're going to answer. would be
prepared that if that question arises
[3:00:31] that you will be the one who answers it.
[laughter]
[3:00:38] » If you bring it up, they're going to
say, "Well, Brian, what about what about
[3:00:41] the aquafer and what about our water?"
Then you're getting a then you're
[3:00:46] getting a pissing match with a skunk
lose. am going and I won't be there yet,
[3:00:53] but
I leave
[3:00:57] » but Texas for that symposium
and everything I've been reading they're
[3:01:02] really going to the closed loop cooling
[3:01:06] minimizing water.
[3:01:10] » Okay, Kate, what's in your section?
>> Um, so my section is the informed and
[3:01:15] engaged community. Uh, I focus on I
still have a couple slides that I need
[3:01:19] to add in to mine, but the first one
being that we obviously want to make
[3:01:24] county government understandable and
accessible. That's part of why we do
[3:01:28] presentations like this and events like
this. Um, and then the main bulk of my
[3:01:33] presentation. Um, and you can click
ahead at least. Yeah, this one is about
[3:01:38] six key ways that residents um, and
citizens can engage with the county. Um,
[3:01:43] I walk through examples of all six of
these. Um, my thought is to add in a few
[3:01:49] photo examples of what these kind of
look like in action. Um, I kind of
[3:01:53] talked through my notes about this
section last week, so I don't
[3:01:56] necessarily feel like I need to fully
repeat it because not a lot has changed
[3:01:59] here. Um, but then the last slide that
I'll put in is that we're not just
[3:02:03] pushing it out onto the citizens. We
know that the county has responsibility
[3:02:07] in all of this as well and that we want
to make it accessible, understandable.
[3:02:12] We strive to use plain language whenever
possible. We try to get out into the
[3:02:16] county. We know it's a big county and
kind of again reinforcing some of the
[3:02:20] things that all of you have said. Um and
that ultimately we want it to be a
[3:02:25] two-way conversation and that one of the
first ways that we can do that is to
[3:02:30] answer any questions that they have and
then we just tee it straight into
[3:02:33] questions after my section. Um, and then
my plan during questions is to try and
[3:02:39] as much as possible direct them to
whichever one of you is best suited to
[3:02:44] answer that question. Uh, I'm going to
rely on hopefully you all giving me a
[3:02:48] little bit of verbal cue or some sort of
inclination that this is a question that
[3:02:53] you're ready and willing to respond to.
Obviously, if relates directly to
[3:02:58] information that you presented, I'm
going to assume that that's going to be
[3:03:01] a question that will fall to you. But if
it's something that we did not address
[3:03:06] like the wind or data centers, then
having a bit of a plan is helpful. Um,
[3:03:11] are there any other kind of hot button
topics, questions that any of you
[3:03:16] anticipate or think we should be
prepared for?
[3:03:23] » Probably property taxes. Somebody might
come up with a
[3:03:27] » valuations. Valuation might be a big
one.
[3:03:30] » That that would be a big deal.
What are you going to say if they ask
[3:03:35] that, Brian?
>> I'm going to say that the board of
[3:03:38] supervisors only has control of the levy
and that the assessor does that with per
[3:03:46] state code.
>> Sounds good to me.
[3:03:49] » And they have to do it every two years.
And if they don't revalue your home,
[3:03:55] they can put a blanket
valuation on all I'm not going to get
[3:04:01] into that, but
>> that's that if they don't do their job,
[3:04:06] the state does an equalization order,
>> not the not the assessor.
[3:04:11] » Okay. That's your the state assessor. I
got a question for you. And so, uh, you
[3:04:16] know, I mentioned, for instance, our
veteran services. You know, I I was just
[3:04:21] going to talk about it. Should there be
a slide?
[3:04:24] » Yeah, I have photos of
>> you. You have those photos. Okay.
[3:04:29] So, I don't have to you
>> I'm going to drop that in there.
[3:04:36] » And I And then a list of the of our, you
know, 14 or 15
[3:04:41] uh committee small town
>> the ones. Oh, the cities. Yeah.
[3:04:46] » Small towns part list.
>> Do you want that as a list or as a map?
[3:04:50] » I would say list.
>> Okay.
[3:04:54] » Then I'll mention I will just mention a
big part of what we can't hit.
[3:04:59] » Marian, were you gonna ask something?
>> No. No.
[3:05:05] » All right. Anything else?
>> Yeah, we should ordered pizza.
[3:05:10] [laughter]
>> Yeah.
[3:05:12] » Nope. That'll do it.
>> Okay. Hey, thank you.
[3:05:15] » We won't let you down. Thank you.
[3:05:22] » We won't let her.
>> That's Susan.
[3:05:29] [clears throat]
[3:05:33] » He's on his way over to take the rest of
the meeting. I had to go to my therapy
[3:05:37] appointment. So,
>> okay. Thank you.
[3:05:40] This long.
Yep. Am
[3:05:45] I okay to end this?
>> Yes, we are. Going to
[3:05:49] » Well, we have to do it.
>> We up to the point we vote for going in
[3:05:54] close session.
>> They take the vote. You keep it running
[3:05:57] and then once they voted to go into
close session, then you stop the
[3:06:01] recording.
>> Okay. And since we're on recess, I'm
[3:06:03] going to mute for a little bit.
>> I'm sorry.
[3:06:05] » I'm going to
[3:09:49] Let's
[3:10:02] let's get going here.
[3:10:07] one again.
>> I'll make a motion we go into close
[3:10:11] session pursuant to Iowa code 21.5
number one pair I for discussion
[3:10:20] andor decision on personnel matters.
>> I'll second that motion.
[3:10:25] » Chairman Shay
>> I supervisor Jorgensson. Hi. Supervisor
[3:10:29] Jones. Hi. Supervisor Miller. Hi.
Supervisor. Hi.