1 00:00:03,060 --> 00:00:08,380 We'll have 30 more seconds. We'll keep talking. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,600 Okay, 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:26,520 it is 9 o'clock. On Monday, August of 24th, 2020, six o'clock, all the part of the County Commissioner's court to order. 4 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:30,400 Today, we have Allen Copeland, from the sinful Baptist, we'll do our invocation. 5 00:00:30,980 --> 00:00:33,260 People please stand for that. We're very, very standing for the pledges. 6 00:00:38,780 --> 00:00:41,940 Father, we love you today, and thank you all for your love and goodness to us. 7 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:43,020 Thank you for Jesus. 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,940 He shed blood that paid for our salvation, and I pray today, Lord, that you would take control 9 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:54,560 of this courtroom, and your blessed Holy Spirit guide and direct each person, it's thought, 10 00:00:54,700 --> 00:01:00,360 each action, and Lord may you be honored, glorified, and all that we do, and say, in Christ 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,180 name I pray. 12 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,440 I 13 00:01:04,460 --> 00:01:08,960 play those reasons to do the five and United States of America. 14 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,680 And you see everybody who are willing to stay in this one mission. 15 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,160 I'm not indivisible with the opportunity to just as far off. 16 00:01:18,790 --> 00:01:21,670 I'm indivisible with the United States of America. 17 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:23,550 I'm indivisible with the United States of America. 18 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:25,590 I'm indivisible with the United States of America. 19 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:26,390 I'm indivisible with the United States 20 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:32,270 of America. 21 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:33,270 Thank you everybody. 22 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:38,710 Next up on the agenda is the recognition of minutes from the August of 10th 23 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:41,910 and all of us the 12 auto county commissioners court. 24 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:47,840 So, any changes to that, if not, so recognize. 25 00:01:49,260 --> 00:01:50,240 Number four, budget. 26 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,240 I mean, must have considered our next opponent, budget, 27 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:55,280 and then request for fiscal year 25 of these six. 28 00:01:57,740 --> 00:01:58,380 Yes, Judge. 29 00:01:58,380 --> 00:02:00,480 This just has to do with the properties walk. 30 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:04,420 There were some closing costs that needed to be considered. 31 00:02:05,180 --> 00:02:08,920 This just allocates the funds to allow the closing costs. 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Any questions for Brandon? 33 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,260 I need a motion, 34 00:02:18,780 --> 00:02:18,780 please. 35 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:21,740 Have a motion in a second. 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,820 All in favor, raise your hand. 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,420 I'll go and send some of that. 38 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:30,680 Number five vouchers to consider an act upon the approval 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,780 of the vouchers is presented by the County Office. 40 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:35,480 There's office check numbers 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 41 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:47,920 through 223,680 in our transfers to 534,32540 in a amount of 4,387,824 and 33 cents. 42 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:50,220 I don't need a motion in a second to just go. 43 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:01,130 Have a motion in a second. Any questions or comments? 44 00:03:02,210 --> 00:03:07,890 Okay, all in the paper, there's writing, and that passes, five, zero. 45 00:03:09,490 --> 00:03:17,100 Number six, insurance, and then you source duty, you have anything to do with it? 46 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,460 Do you need to do it? 47 00:03:20,020 --> 00:03:22,680 I have that answer more than that is to you. 48 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:23,840 Okay, I need a question. 49 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,620 Anybody have any questions for duty? 50 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:27,180 All right. 51 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,500 We're working now. 52 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,260 Thank you, ma'am. 53 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,620 Number seven treasures, not smoothly before, good 54 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:37,860 morning. 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,840 Our general fund, as of July 31st, 56 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Emerald National Bank, had 3,900, 1,962 dollars and 63 cents, 57 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,460 earning 3.89 percent. 58 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Logic had 2,320,049 dollars and 44 cents, earning 3.79 percent. 59 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Texas Class at 13 million, 799,386 dollars in 29 cents, earning 3.78 percent. 60 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:18,620 Textful Prime had 14 million, 733,793,793,793,818 percent, and multivate securities had 20 million, 61 00:04:19,140 --> 00:04:26,560 225,000 for a general fundamental of 54,890,192 dollars in the living sense. 62 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,060 You may have any questions for Brooke. 63 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,460 Thank you. 64 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,220 Thank you, Brooke. 65 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:35,960 So, we're going to have some more. 66 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:43,660 Number eight, a discussion and possible action-related relative to eight, a tax income that 67 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:45,740 can bring investments on number two. 68 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,700 To receive a report and discuss the current east gateway, tier number two goals, boundary and 69 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:56,440 acreage and discuss recent tiers two more directions to explore opportunities to increase the 70 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,920 don't continue to go on city council approval as a layout budget. 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,100 After 311 of the Texas tax point. 72 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,220 Good morning, George. Good afternoon. 73 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:10,540 That's okay. 74 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:13,300 Drew Brassfield, Assistant Director of Planning for the City of Emerald, 75 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 I appreciate the opportunity to be here and discuss 76 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:21,100 with you the current research we are doing on the possibility of 77 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:24,020 expanding the tears to the East Gateway tax increment 78 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:25,300 that reinvestment is on the boundary. 79 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:33,690 While we get the presentation up, I'll go ahead and continue on. 80 00:05:33,690 --> 00:05:43,050 This zone was created in 2016 by Ordinance 762, and then there was a small boundary expansion 81 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:45,050 done back in 2020. 82 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:53,010 This zone's goals are to relocate, redeveloped the big text and original goals were and 83 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:57,490 add new retail and entertainment venues and RV park and several other things. 84 00:05:57,490 --> 00:06:05,970 Currently, the zone is bounded on the north side by east-third avenue on the east side by 85 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:11,050 lakeside avenue on the south end and at a southernmost point in the south east-34th. 86 00:06:11,370 --> 00:06:14,250 And on the western side, ironically, 87 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:19,140 is the eastern street. 88 00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:29,640 So the current zone is a mix of vacant undeveloped land retail. 89 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,560 There's some hospitality and limited residential development. 90 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:42,140 It's currently comprised by almost 1,400 acres and about 3,4 of that is undeveloped vacant land at this point. 91 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:54,740 In 2025, the most recent tax year, the value of this zone was a little over 117 million, which was a 77.6 million increase over its 2016 value. 92 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,080 On the positive side, we do have the big tax and state grants out there, several other 93 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,660 anchor businesses, FedEx, Excel energy, the premier truck group, and several other 94 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:06,000 things. 95 00:07:06,340 --> 00:07:11,980 But on the downside, we have numerous vacant tracks, closed businesses, blighted conditions, 96 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,040 poor drainage, and undersized and lacking infrastructure. 97 00:07:15,340 --> 00:07:18,760 Those being the two biggest of the negatives. 98 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:26,360 There's currently four outstanding or active commitments, the longest of these still remaining 99 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,020 as nine years. 100 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:35,220 And why are we looking at an expansion or the possibility of an expansion towards the end 101 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:35,840 of 2025? 102 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:43,320 We had several prospective developers approach the city interested in developing in this 103 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:49,420 as part of AMROLO, primarily in the area of Airport Boulevard in I-40. 104 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Most of us have probably stopped at least once at the new Bucky's there, but as it should 105 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,100 be development, it gets more development. 106 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:04,300 So with Bucky's coming in, there's a lot of interest in developing around that area. 107 00:08:05,380 --> 00:08:13,300 And so because of those, we went to the terrorist board to discuss the possibility that 108 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:21,500 of doing an expansion, and the direction from the board was to examine several different boundaries. 109 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:30,420 So we went with this to kind of went back to the drawing board to look at what all is in this area. 110 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,600 I know this map is a little hard to see because it contains a whole lot of information, 111 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:43,780 but the red hashmarked areas, what the current zone is, the blue and the tan areas are the parcels 112 00:08:43,780 --> 00:08:53,000 that we are examining as potential to add to this zone. The east boundary on this would go all the way 113 00:08:53,000 --> 00:09:00,560 out to the east city limits. The north side would still remain southeast, third and the county line would 114 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:08,260 the the bottom the southern boundary of this expansion research. So all in all we're looking 115 00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:15,880 at 211 parcels. So the potential if all of them were added would be almost 2100 more acres 116 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:24,040 to the existing zone. For the parcels that we are examining the 2018 value of these parcels was 117 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:30,200 almost 69 million and their 25 value was a little over 16 million. 118 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:37,780 So there's been about a 47.8 million increase in that time frame between 2018 to 2025. 119 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,380 There are three large projects that have occurred in this area. 120 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:54,020 The utility trailer of Texas location, the road-ranger travel center and of course 121 00:09:54,020 --> 00:09:59,980 research studio. Um, of these parcels, uh, broken them down into... 122 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:23,060 What their values, how we group those, we've got 38 of them that had negative or completely flat line growth during that time period, and I didn't want to point out to that part of county's current revenue off of the 211 parcels being researched is currently at 689,000 a year as of 2020. 123 00:10:23,060 --> 00:10:28,200 five. So if these parcels were to be added to the Tears Boundary, 124 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Potter County would still continue to collect that revenue based off of those parcels. 125 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,440 Anything above and beyond that, that's part of that incremental growth, 126 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:40,620 that portion would go only that portion would go into the tip, 127 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:41,780 the tax increment front. 128 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:50,380 And so, in conclusion, each parcel is being examined for its potential growth. 129 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:56,180 Like I said, we have a lot of issues with utilities, water and sewer and drainage. 130 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:07,680 The infrastructure extensions could be reimbursed by the tiers to the city, if the city 131 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:11,380 you know, opted to go in and extend those utilities to that area. 132 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:17,500 It would also aid in projects where interest has been expressed, it's already been expressed, 133 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:21,120 It's not pure speculation at this point. 134 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,460 We think that this area has a lot of potential for growth. 135 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:33,140 It's become very stagnant on that end of I-40 and we have been going and talking to 136 00:11:33,140 --> 00:11:38,680 all the different taxing entities and I still have a presentation that I'll be giving tomorrow 137 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,600 to the Emerald College Board of Regents. 138 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:48,660 And so with that, I would welcome any feedback discussion on it. 139 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,240 Well, I think it's a wonderful idea. 140 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:58,320 So the city is going to vote on this council. 141 00:11:58,980 --> 00:12:00,860 Eventually, that's the plan. 142 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:08,800 We will take it to the city council for a new ordinance to expand the boundary and then we would 143 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,860 come back to each of the taxing entities to request a participation agreement similar to what 144 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:15,140 was done in the past. 145 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:17,480 So how long we tied to this, this Tiff? 146 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:20,980 So in this expansion, we are not looking 147 00:12:20,980 --> 00:12:29,360 to extend any of the time the zone ends in 20, 46, I believe. 148 00:12:32,570 --> 00:12:34,190 When do you just say, what year was that? 149 00:12:34,190 --> 00:12:37,370 In your latest 20, 46, I could be. 150 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,500 They got that, my nose. 151 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,280 With the rail on this kind of hard to keep tracks sometimes. 152 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:45,880 That's you? 153 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:48,740 This little bit of a weird change. 154 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:52,580 Well, how long does the tears of one that was over the last four? 155 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,800 Really, that one goes till 2056. 156 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Can you give us an example or two of what has already been done with the tears too, like 157 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,200 maybe the Whittaker piping where they added the pipeline underneath the Whittaker, there are 158 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,780 operatives and things like that? 159 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:11,380 Yes, sir. 160 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:20,000 So the Tears 2 has reimbursed the city for, like you mentioned, Mr. Shafer, the water line 161 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,400 extension that I believe went under I-40. 162 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:31,620 And again, going back to the four commitments, there's a hotel, the home-to-sweets, premier 163 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:35,680 truck group, and then there's a couple of two and totems that have been incentivized 164 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:36,660 this area. 165 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,800 I don't know prior to my arrival what smaller projects have been done. We did 166 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:53,200 just recently incentivize, partially, the slug bug, roadside attraction for Route 66 out 167 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,660 in that area as well. The work will look in the park line and landscaping, that kind of thing. 168 00:13:58,660 --> 00:14:02,900 What do you anticipate the cost of the council and the idea of the figure? 169 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,360 The cost to the county? 170 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:07,500 There would be no cost to the county, no sir. 171 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:15,060 Now, the county, all the taxing entities would continue to collect the revenue that you're currently collecting. 172 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:22,900 Anything above and beyond that would then be allocated to the tax increment fund to be reinvested back into that zone. 173 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:34,450 We're right now that tears won't, we're losing about a million dollars in tears too, we're losing about 500,000, is that correct? 174 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Losing money in what way? 175 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,700 Well, we're not getting those tax dollars. 176 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,000 We're not getting the retain those tax dollars. 177 00:14:44,140 --> 00:14:53,300 We're not trying to use this cost in us a million five a year for both these bull tears won and tears too. 178 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,820 I understand, it's a good thing for our area. 179 00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:59,080 I don't know how to guess that. I'm just saying that. 180 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:17,250 As we move forward today, we've got a large tax increase coming, and so I just think we need to be mindful of that, and I hope that y'all will be too, and so it's a great part of our county. This is the only way we can fund our county through tax dollars. 181 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:20,490 to see as other modes to do that, we do not. 182 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:24,910 And so it's a difficult balance for the county 183 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:31,190 and taxpayers on these adventures. 184 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:39,020 I would say that it's a deferment on the collection 185 00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:43,260 of any of the incremental increase to any of those parcels 186 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:45,500 in that zone, rather than losing it, 187 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,200 you're deferring taking that revenue 188 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,280 in to a later date. 189 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Well, that probably wasn't a good word, but I'll just 190 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,400 talking about, as in today's dollars, 191 00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:59,380 and what we're looking at needing to do, 192 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,920 I just, I just think we need to be mindful of that, 193 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,180 and so with that, I'd ask that you do the same, 194 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,360 and I know you're necessarily just basically 195 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,760 making a statement that we're losing about a million, 196 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,220 five and tax dollars each year. 197 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:25,060 Thank you, Tweet. 198 00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:27,360 Is there anything we don't need to take action on this? 199 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,640 This was strictly for discussion and feedback. 200 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,020 Thanks, Tweet. 201 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Thank you, Tweet. 202 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:35,240 Okay, thank you, sir. 203 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:38,060 Okay, number eight, B elections to consider. 204 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:39,000 Yes. 205 00:16:39,460 --> 00:16:42,360 I'd ask if you could skip to eight K. 206 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,120 We did. 207 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,860 Thank you for the reminder. 208 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:48,540 Eight K fiscal year 2025 all that. 209 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:53,060 I'm going to recognize that fiscal year 25 audit reports issued by Hankens in East 210 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,040 App. 211 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,820 I've got on the other way back up right here. 212 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:00,500 Good morning. 213 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Good morning. 214 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Honorable County Judge Commissioners. 215 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:11,940 Thank you for the opportunity for serving poor county. 216 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,480 My name is Hanzan Tana, I'm an audit director of the firm Hankin Sista. 217 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:33,080 So basically we're going to go over the annual Comprehensive Financial Report and a 218 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,480 single audit report. 219 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:48,990 both of those you should have a copy this morning, if we go to page one of the financial 220 00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:49,750 report, 221 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,460 you would see the independent auditors report, which is the only piece of this report 222 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:09,840 that belongs solely to the auditor, you would see an modified or clean opinion, that means 223 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:17,780 that the figures included in this financial report are materially correct, and there were 224 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:29,200 no significant deviations at all. The only new item in the report would be in that very 225 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:37,720 page one, the fourth paragraph, it starts with the emphasis of the matter, changing accounting 226 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:46,460 principle, pertaining to compensated absences that was a new gas v or governmental accounting 227 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:57,400 standard board statement number 101, which require a prior period adjusting entry, 228 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,120 but 229 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:11,120 our opinion was not modified as to this respect. That gasping 101, what is faming and that 230 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:21,040 and all across the nation, to all governmental entities, it aims to lower the accrued compensation 231 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:30,320 amounts or liabilities included in the statement of net position to a more precise and accurate 232 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,380 number. 233 00:19:32,020 --> 00:19:33,100 That's basically what happened. 234 00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:59,960 If the rest of the report contains the very same sections as in prior year, it is comprised of the management discussion on analysis or the MDNA, which is basically a comparison of prior year with the... 235 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:11,740 Currently, in this case, 2024 and 2025, after the MDNA, the basic financial statements, which are comprised of the government 236 00:20:11,740 --> 00:20:15,900 why and the governmental funds statements. 237 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:24,380 After the governmental funds, the reporting includes the 238 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:33,880 territory phones and the fetishary phones. The next section would be the notes to the financial 239 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:42,740 statements. And after the notes, the reporting includes, as in prior year, the required 240 00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:45,520 supplementary information as required. 241 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:57,900 If we go to page 7 of the MDNA, 242 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,160 you would see the 243 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:15,480 components of the net position which includes the revenues and the expenses of the county, 244 00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:21,860 you would see that there was an increase in total revenues of approximately $2 million, 245 00:21:21,860 --> 00:21:29,340 which responds to a sliding increase in the property and the other taxes. 246 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:46,230 The expenses show an increase of approximately 3.7 million dollars from 91,581,000 247 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:58,410 in 24 to 95 million to 86 in 25 and that increased response to the net effect of ups and downs 248 00:21:58,410 --> 00:22:01,350 between those different categories. 249 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:11,450 But we have to point out that it looks quite similar to the 250 00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:20,230 increase in the judicial expenses line item, which increased by 3.7 million dollars. 251 00:22:20,890 --> 00:22:31,070 Those increases in the judicial and the other categories were risk or respond to increases 252 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:35,810 in salaries expenses incurred during the year. 253 00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:59,770 So at the bottom, you would see that the net position from 2024 increase approximately by 3.8 million to 160 million to 28,000 by the end of fiscal year 25. 254 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,140 If you could please turn back to page 6. 255 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:21,700 The most significant changes when we look at the assets and liabilities would be the line 256 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:25,120 labeled net pension and open liabilities. 257 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:35,020 You would see a significant decrease of 7.1 or 7.2 million dollars and that response to a better 258 00:23:35,020 --> 00:23:46,480 performance of the amounts invested in such in such line and also as per the amounts 259 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:56,620 determined by the actual report of the TEC, the IRS. So that decrease, it's a positive 260 00:23:56,620 --> 00:24:10,700 various for the county, which basically you would see that the total net position is 261 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:26,420 maintain and it is pretty solid for the year ended of September 30th of 2025. At $616 million. 262 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:49,460 You could please turn to page 14 to the statement of activities that's part of the 263 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:59,900 Over month wide statements you would see at the very bottom the beginning net position 264 00:25:00,430 --> 00:25:09,310 At October 1st, that would be the closing net position of fiscal year 24, and you will see a line that states 265 00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:24,310 restatement, that restatement of 1.2 million, which is also positive. It is comprised of both the prior 266 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:34,910 period adjustment for the compensated absences and change in the estimate of the depreciation 267 00:25:34,910 --> 00:25:44,310 expense for the year with resulted in that positive increase of the net position at Iran. 268 00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:53,210 The explanation for that and that would be the only addition to the notes to the financial 269 00:25:53,210 --> 00:26:01,770 statements if you could please turn to page 47 in 270 00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:08,990 page 47 you would see the note on the 271 00:26:08,990 --> 00:26:19,270 restamen and the explanation for the amounts that I have just mentioned. That will be the 272 00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:25,730 only part of the notes to the financial statements that would be new this year. 273 00:26:28,910 --> 00:26:30,390 The rest of the 274 00:26:31,530 --> 00:26:40,580 financial report is pretty much the same as in fiscal year 24, 275 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,140 the required schedules for the pension on OPEP, 276 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,520 the comparisons between budget and actual, 277 00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:56,320 the combining statements for the non-major governmental funds, 278 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,140 And another 279 00:27:05,910 --> 00:27:19,230 change from prior year would be the fiduciary funds if we could please turn 280 00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:19,590 to 281 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:24,520 page 282 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:57,850 23, page 23, you would see that the county received $5 million on behalf of the CDM 283 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,630 fiduciary funds for the year. 284 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,420 Any questions so far, regards to the information presented 285 00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:10,220 in the report, 286 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:22,840 if we could please then go to the single audit report. 287 00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:32,270 The single audit report 288 00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:41,350 includes two reports, one report deals with what we call ICFR, internal controls over financial 289 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:47,930 reporting and the second report deals with the compliance with major programs. 290 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:55,650 Both reports, as you can see, are on modify those opinions, are also clean. 291 00:28:57,130 --> 00:29:06,110 The findings that were coming in from prior year were addressed and eliminated from the report. 292 00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:16,190 As they were adequately taken care of during the year, and it's at the mid-2025. 293 00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:24,110 And just to remind you, that just happened to be back in the 2022-23 audit, 294 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,980 in the purchasing 295 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:46,980 departments documentation for the zero to 50,000 range, the prior purchasing agents requirements 296 00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:57,400 for how to handle multiple bids and to document that was an adequate for what we needed 297 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,160 to do to make sure that we could. 298 00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:10,610 Show that we were meeting our requirements underneath the purchasing policy of getting multiple bids from that $10,000 to $50,000 rain. 299 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:20,030 Allison, wholesale change the way that happened and we haven't had a single finding since that was implemented. 300 00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:28,530 And so it's certainly not a, I would say, a kudos on Madison's part of making the changes 301 00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:33,590 in her, in the department, you know, these were policies that were in place long before 302 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:34,850 she got there. 303 00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:40,660 Thank you. 304 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,440 In addition, 305 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,160 the singular report includes two separate schedules, one for the federal 306 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:58,880 works and the second one for the state awards, the federal awards show one increase from 307 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:07,760 prior year of approximately $1.8 million and that's basically the expenditures for the 308 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:21,140 upon funds. And on page 7, the expenditures for state awards also increased by approximately 309 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:22,760 $1.3 million, 310 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:33,900 and it's basically a combination of increases in the motor vehicle, crime 311 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:43,980 of authority and the public defender, which in both of those show a combined increase of 312 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:47,900 1.1 million dollars from fiscal year 24. 313 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 You could see in page 314 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:05,830 11 of the report that in the schedule of previous findings and 315 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:14,770 question cost, you would see that both of those previous findings appear as corrected and 316 00:32:14,770 --> 00:32:16,750 now out of the report. 317 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,940 So any questions with regards to the singularary report 318 00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:32,510 that would be 319 00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:40,250 the end of my presentation this morning for the financial results of poor county? 320 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:44,270 Again, thank you for the opportunity of starting the county, 321 00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:50,170 and how about a great 322 00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:50,890 result? 323 00:32:51,550 --> 00:32:51,790 Okay. 324 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:52,630 Thank you, sir. 325 00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:54,150 Appreciate you being here. 326 00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:03,040 Number eight, be elections to consider and approve the following for the November 3rd, 327 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,820 2026 general election, order reporting election officials and rate of pay in order 328 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,680 reporting officers for simple accounting situation. 329 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:12,800 The morning, Christy. 330 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:13,260 Good morning. 331 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,800 So we have, first, we have our order of pointing 332 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,400 election officials. 333 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,960 We have got these, we've got these lists from our 334 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,740 party chairs. 335 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,460 And they both approved all of these workers. 336 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,420 And then if you'll see on your third page, 337 00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:38,260 we also have backup judges listed here. 338 00:33:38,260 --> 00:33:41,280 case we did emergency replacements. We have central accounting 339 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,460 station judges and we have early voting ballot board judges here and this 340 00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:51,640 is something that we do every couple years and it will include this 341 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,340 election coming up. 342 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:57,110 You have any questions? 343 00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:07,150 Questions for Christie? Okay and then the next one we have will be the order 344 00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:12,730 appointing officers for the central accounting station and you do notice that I 345 00:34:12,730 --> 00:34:14,430 may be this morning your order of election. 346 00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:18,190 This order of election was already signed by the judge. 347 00:34:18,730 --> 00:34:20,510 It's something that's centrally required. 348 00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:23,390 And so the judge has already signed that for this election. 349 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:26,530 But we do have to go ahead and appoint the order 350 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:29,030 of point the officers for central accounting session. 351 00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:34,230 And so these officers, it is myself and then other members 352 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:35,150 of my staff. 353 00:34:35,530 --> 00:34:39,490 We always are appointed as the central accounting 354 00:34:39,490 --> 00:34:40,270 We have to go to the station officers. 355 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,260 In question. 356 00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:48,060 We don't 357 00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:52,680 have to be on it. 358 00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:53,040 I know. 359 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:54,800 I need a motion. 360 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:57,220 I'm moved to a program that's presented. 361 00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:58,960 Thank you. 362 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,820 We have a motion in a second, all in favor of raise your hand. 363 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,520 Opposites on that has to stop us here. 364 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,280 In number of H.C. elections to recognize early voting and election day polling locations for November 3, 365 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,820 2026 to an election. 366 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:21,840 Okay, so for early voting for the election, we have two weeks of early voting, which includes 367 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,720 week in voting. The Santa Fe building, our main location, will be open the last week of early voting 368 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:34,120 from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and the branches will be open 8 to 5 every day, the Monday through 369 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:40,860 Fridays, except for the last two days we're going to have those open from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. 370 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,340 that gives voters time to get off work and get their ballot cast before election day. 371 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,100 And then we will have the weekend voting, the Santa Fe building will be open 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. 372 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:56,520 on that Saturday and then the branches will be open 9 to 3 and the same hour is 9 to 3 373 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,000 for everyone on Sunday. 374 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,680 And then on election day, we do have a change to one of our vote 375 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,500 centers. 376 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Shaper Olheels Baptist Church decided that they did not 377 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,820 want to be a part of a vote center program any longer. 378 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,780 And so we looked, and if you've ever been in that area, 379 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,980 you know that there's not much there. 380 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:23,780 And so we finally were able to get a church called Behind the 381 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,520 It is 2.3 miles away from Chapel Hill's Church. 382 00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:32,400 It's not ideal, but there's nothing else in that area. 383 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,200 The school, we can't get in the school. 384 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:35,960 The fire station is too small. 385 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,400 So behind the shoes cabway church is what we have chose to go with. 386 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,780 It's not completely ADA compliant. 387 00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:47,400 But we don't have any other options in that area. 388 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,920 And they were very glad to have us. 389 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,420 And so that's what we're going to go in. 390 00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:55,640 Tell me in the name again. 391 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,240 Behind the Shoots Cowboy Church. 392 00:36:57,460 --> 00:36:57,900 Yes. 393 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:58,700 Yes. 394 00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:05,320 And we will post notices on Chevrolet Hills doors so that someone shows up there, which we know they 395 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,540 will. 396 00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:09,460 They'll show up there on a lecture night of vote, but there will be a notice there that they 397 00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,440 could go to behind the Shoots Cowboy Church. 398 00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:18,080 And then there's Willow Creek Church, which is a little over four miles away, if they chose 399 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,460 to go to that also. 400 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:26,140 Okay. All right. Any questions for Christy? Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. 401 00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:29,320 All right. 402 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,800 Number eight, D. Panhandle, Otto, Burberry, Thief, Unit, Pad 2, Senior Bill 2, 2, 4, 403 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:38,400 P. Burberry Grant. Mr. McBoy, how nice to see you again, sir. 404 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:44,400 What do you think, buddy? So, we're in the same underground award for the S. S. B. 2, 405 00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:52,080 4, 406 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,200 The question is for Patrick. 407 00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:06,990 Who to award? 408 00:38:07,470 --> 00:38:10,690 I can offer us just an accept that a grant award from state. 409 00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:11,350 That's presented. 410 00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:15,790 The motion and the second on the favor of engineering. 411 00:38:17,290 --> 00:38:19,150 I would like to send some of that past is not zero. 412 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:26,060 So the second one will be the puddle 50. 413 00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:29,320 Actually, the puddle theft ramp that we've had for the last 11 years. 414 00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:34,220 We were awarded $490,000,000, $115 from the NVCBA. 415 00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:35,820 for 2527. 416 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:39,440 Any questions for Patrick? 417 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,700 Have a motion and a second on that one. All in favor. 418 00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:53,460 Thank you sir. 419 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:59,860 Number eight F website hosting services to consider an active bond. 420 00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:04,340 Approving the updated pricing plan and quote for the Potter County website hosting services 421 00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:08,400 for fiscal year 20, 728 as provided by Tech, 422 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,560 C-I-R-A, Julie Smith. 423 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,280 This is just the Tech Sera website 424 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,740 that we currently have new new fees to go into effect. 425 00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:22,700 So those need to be included into the budget for that 426 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:23,380 coming year. 427 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:30,170 Was it included in the budget, Brandon? 428 00:39:32,110 --> 00:39:34,810 No, do you just need to make a vote on it today? 429 00:39:34,810 --> 00:39:35,550 Okay. 430 00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:40,790 Yeah, it's rolled into the, or normally historically it's been rolled into the IT budget. 431 00:39:41,610 --> 00:39:41,690 Okay. 432 00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:45,010 Historically, is this still? 433 00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:47,170 It might be history. 434 00:39:47,310 --> 00:39:48,010 I don't know. 435 00:39:49,870 --> 00:39:51,610 Any questions for Julie on this? 436 00:39:51,710 --> 00:39:52,610 If not, I need a motion. 437 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:55,690 It's either that or y'all can go and look for a new website. 438 00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:58,270 Well, it's not that. 439 00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,570 Well, it's that you hang onto it. 440 00:39:59,570 --> 00:39:59,970 We'll show you. 441 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:24,600 Number 8G, rule, sheriff's grant to consider, and act upon a request from the sheriff's office to a plopper, the rules, sheriff's office grants, it's in a bill 22, fiscal year 27, and minister by the Texas Comptroller's office pursuant to a recent legislation, sheriff. 442 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,940 It's the same one we've had last couple of years, we've taken all that money and been able to put it into 443 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:33,300 hours with third employees. 444 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,560 Okay, it's kind of handy, isn't it? 445 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,040 That's good. 446 00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:42,340 Any questions for this year? 447 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,300 No, no, no. 448 00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:46,750 Second. 449 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:49,170 Second. 450 00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:51,590 I'm motion and a second, all in favor of this year. 451 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:54,630 I'm going to pose in that passage side to zero. 452 00:40:57,870 --> 00:41:01,850 County Clerk to consider an act of honor for giving the County Clerk's records our count. 453 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,560 This is just something I have to do every year. 454 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,380 We collect our records our Kathy and we've put in that letter what we do with it. 455 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:15,600 What we do with it, what we might plan to do with it. 456 00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:17,400 We have to get some beds from different vendors. 457 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,000 So we try to utilize that as the best way that we can. 458 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,980 Any questions for Julie? 459 00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:31,200 The motion please. 460 00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:34,290 Move to approve this. 461 00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:36,530 Second. 462 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:38,970 Motion in a second. 463 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:40,330 All in favor is behind. 464 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:43,490 A little pose that passes five to zero. 465 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:46,280 Number eight. 466 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Our tier is one and tier is two. 467 00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:51,520 Adjustment to consider an act upon approving an increase in cost for tier. 468 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,120 Number one in the amount of $16,945. 469 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,700 The tier is number two. 470 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,680 In the amount of $6,822. 471 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,680 the total increase in $23,677. 472 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:05,740 Yes, Judge. 473 00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:09,040 This came from the City of Emorollas 474 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,840 other ones that collect all of the 475 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680 tiered money. 476 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:19,040 They, when they sent the invoice earlier in the year, 477 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,420 they made the calculation, 478 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,820 not using the prior year. 479 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:34,040 Tax rates as opposed to the correct adopted tax rates and so this is just a reflecting that we needed to pay a little bit more 480 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,580 Based on the corrected the correct tax rates 481 00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:46,350 Any questions for Brandon on that? 482 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,320 Make motion that we're prove as presented 483 00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,960 The motion in a second on the evaluation 484 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:09,340 Do you think you need the information for me before we do our budget? 485 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:11,680 Just, how do we, how do we know? 486 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:20,640 I mean, the adjustment happens based on what the tax rate is adopted. 487 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:29,220 So, I have a pretty good idea how close it would be prior to the adoption. 488 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:39,340 I don't know if that answers your question, I mean, it does fluctuate based on how much 489 00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:48,340 you, how what the tax rate is, and so like our payments that I put into the budget for 490 00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:54,400 tiers one and tiers two, I calculate based on a, you know, if we're going to end up to 6.1 491 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:02,760 effective increase. I take the prior year and then multiply at times 1.0615. That's how I got 492 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,460 when it's in the budget today. If you all were to raise or lower that, I would raise or lower 493 00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:14,340 that to reflect that. It's a sliding scale and they just don't want to get adopted. 494 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,120 But just be nice to somebody made an error in our favor for a change. To like we're always the ones 495 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,700 that are making up the error. 496 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:26,600 I'm agree. 497 00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:29,980 No fall for years, by the way. 498 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:38,900 Right, and ultimately, this is money that we plan on spending, 499 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,000 they just build us lower than what we plan on spending. 500 00:44:42,940 --> 00:44:45,720 So I mean, this just brings us up to where we should have been 501 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:46,800 in the first place. 502 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,920 I mean, I know some things. 503 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,560 We'll try to prove this presented. 504 00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:57,540 I thought we'd love to hear that, and we'd just hear about it. 505 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:59,340 Yeah, we'd probably hear about it. 506 00:45:00,370 --> 00:45:01,970 We already voted. 507 00:45:07,610 --> 00:45:14,770 Okay. Okay. I got you. I got that. I got it all right here. Put your hand in the air. 508 00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:22,050 Okay. So are we still okay. We're looking at the wire transfer now. 509 00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:32,470 AHA or a department F8WA to consider an iPhone allowing the treasure to issue wires to the FHA going forward. 510 00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:45,460 And so what this is is for the payments to go to the federal highway administration for the project is going on and we receive the funding from the Friends of Crossbar. 511 00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:52,500 Basically, they stopped allowing payments per their bike check, which is how we've always 512 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,080 sent it in the past. 513 00:45:54,980 --> 00:45:56,420 Her, their payment instructions. 514 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:03,640 They did advise this last week that they would take a check, but they're not going to 515 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,940 amend their payment instructions. 516 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,080 I would just feel more comfortable that we actually follow their payment instructions and not just 517 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,660 to take something verbally over the phone, or by email, and that way we don't have. 518 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:21,480 Potentially have a check floating around that somebody doesn't cash. 519 00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:24,900 That would be my preference on how we handle this. 520 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,620 They publish how they want to be paid. 521 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,560 The only two methods available are either log into a website or to send a wire. 522 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,260 I would suggest that we follow their payment instructions and allow for wires. 523 00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:39,260 One more questions 524 00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:42,610 .忽ta, 525 00:46:42,910 --> 00:46:43,190 please. Please, Mr. 526 00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:46,250 President. Check it. The 527 00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:47,130 question is second 528 00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:50,490 on the pay provision, ok? You may 529 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:51,630 remember 530 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,640 the 531 00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:59,380 ARP system change order, you 532 00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:00,380 consider an out____ 533 00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:01,920 in the amount of 025 534 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,980 ,000 for the ARP project data 535 00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:04,520 connection. 536 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:08,800 Mar пару? Okay, so 537 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,400 this has to 538 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,960 do with the ERP system in the grant minutes of software 539 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,360 we have, in order for 540 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,600 those two softwares, best if we do these in 541 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:25,420 to talk. Some development has to be done on the ERP system that I did not anticipate. 542 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:31,280 So this is a legitimate change order. I feel, because this was not part of the original 543 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,480 scope of work. So I will take the blame on that. I didn't foresee that we would have 544 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:43,080 need some development but I guess call this less and more and when you're trying to get 545 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,380 to two systems to talk together. 546 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,100 But ultimately this is what it would cost. There's 547 00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:57,480 just not a way to what we've had both companies get together to see if there was a way that 548 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,120 we could do this without some kind of development work and they can't get the two systems 549 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,700 to talk without this intermediate step. 550 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:16,740 Is this a one time increase or it's a one time payment yes I would prefer you 551 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:26,160 didn't make a motion to prove the 552 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,780 to pop 1,000 for the ERP Project Data Connection. 553 00:48:31,460 --> 00:48:33,920 I've been motion and a second-on favorite instrument. 554 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,080 I'm closing that pass this time to zero. 555 00:48:39,020 --> 00:48:41,860 Brendan, do you want to skip down to Haskell County before we go to the budget? 556 00:48:42,260 --> 00:48:43,660 Yes, I would prefer that. 557 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,840 So number eight in Haskell County, 558 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,320 to consider an out-to-barned contract to Haskell County for housing enemies. 559 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,960 Sure if you want to talk about that, are you the same as usual? 560 00:49:00,790 --> 00:49:06,250 We've heard a lot of times that all the same except for the amount of people that they're 561 00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:11,570 required to have, they've changed that the boy only have to pay for how many, however many 562 00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:13,870 people we put there. 563 00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:16,770 How many do you want to put there right now? 564 00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:18,910 It means I can get over there. 565 00:49:19,530 --> 00:49:20,050 Fifty. 566 00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:20,650 Fifty? 567 00:49:20,810 --> 00:49:21,070 Fifty? 568 00:49:21,810 --> 00:49:22,130 Fifty. 569 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,640 Fifty. 570 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:26,760 Fifty. 571 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,040 Fifty. 572 00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:27,720 Fifty. 573 00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:30,260 Fifty. 574 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,480 Fifty. 575 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:33,500 What did they change there? 576 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,900 It was part of the first original deal. 577 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,000 Got to cut their costs. 578 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,780 They'll still take them to TDC from there. 579 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,640 But we have to take them to the house. 580 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:48,460 A forest has to go down here. 581 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,740 I haven't looked at it. 582 00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:51,380 Four hours. 583 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,740 Something like that. 584 00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,680 Great. We haven't motioned on this. 585 00:50:10,420 --> 00:50:24,250 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, there are no employment items on accounting projects. 586 00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:35,590 Just a very, very quick update on where we stand with phase two across straight there. 587 00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:39,550 Last week I was able to work with the trice state. 588 00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:45,250 They have gotten me all the clothes out documents which included basically the oliatic stock for the tunnel. 589 00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:49,150 There's not much left over for edict stock as far as the stair tower itself. 590 00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:51,850 It's all basically tunnel ceiling tile, paint, whatnot. 591 00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,150 They got me oliatic stock stuff. 592 00:50:54,850 --> 00:51:04,450 They were also able to supply a hard copy, a digital copy as well as a hard copy, I requested that at no additional cost, a hard copy of the as-built drawings. 593 00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:12,550 They supplied the binder containing all the operation owner and operating manuals, binder with all the letters of warranty. 594 00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:17,310 So as far as the close-up documents, we've received them all, and that's a big step. 595 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:31,330 Currently, like I reported a couple of courts ago, we're in the process of finalizing some missing handicap signage that was found during the task inspection for the parking lot project. 596 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:45,130 We're just this morning checked in with Tri-State, got an update that basically the subcontractor that's going to be installing all the signage received that stuff on Friday, so by the end of the week today, I'm pushing for early if not today. 597 00:51:45,130 --> 00:51:49,330 This week, that stuff is going to get done, that's the additional hand-to-cap signage. 598 00:51:50,250 --> 00:51:54,010 One missing word and some stenciling there to complete that. 599 00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:59,070 Once they get that done, I will send the application to the same inspector that we've got those corrections. 600 00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:03,110 Made, he will follow up with the approval of the corrections and whatnot. 601 00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:11,170 We're going to be extremely close to being able to finalize the final pay request, which is releasing all the retainage. 602 00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:14,810 And we're basically going to walk away from the projects shortly after that. 603 00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:23,490 So, slow progress with this next step, because we're waiting on a company to manufacture the signs to bring up to us and whatnot, but we're getting real close. 604 00:52:23,770 --> 00:52:27,910 So, that's all I got down a bit on the project across the street. 605 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:29,590 Okay, any questions for Chris? 606 00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:32,050 Thanks, Chris. 607 00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:32,810 Thank you, guys. 608 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,720 Do you want to go ahead and go to the budget and then come back, do you all report? 609 00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,240 I'm going to go ahead and go through all that. 610 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,100 I'll just go ahead and do everything and then that way we can finish with the budget. 611 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:44,700 All right. 612 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:50,400 The jail today we have 612 people in custody. 613 00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:54,620 Any of those are female, 31 are housed and outside facilities. 614 00:52:55,460 --> 00:52:59,040 So we have a total actually in our jail if I've had an 81. 615 00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:00,680 Lubbock has one male. 616 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,980 Lynn County has four males. 617 00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:09,940 Deft Smith County has 26, 10 B male and 16 males and we have 523 618 00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:13,320 felons and 16 misdemeanor cases. 619 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,600 All right, insurance. 620 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:19,920 Nothing. 621 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:20,960 No wrecks. 622 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,140 There is no executive session. 623 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:34,240 We'll come back to the public hearing on the proposed budget and make any changes necessary. 624 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:42,480 vote to adopt the budget, propose of property tax rate, set the date time and place for the public hearing on the tax increase, 625 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,960 set the date time and place for the meeting to vote on the tax rate and take any other action necessary. 626 00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:37,810 All right, good morning, Judge. 627 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:49,720 You know, as of as I spoke last week or two weeks ago, whatever whatever that special session was, 628 00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:59,880 You know, we have three meetings that we need to get through to both adopt the budget and to set the tax rate. 629 00:55:02,060 --> 00:55:17,000 Today's goal is to adopt the budget formally and those attacks rate and come back at the first meeting in September to fully adopt that. 630 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:27,840 So we're on our second step in our roadmap to get where we need to be for adopting the budget fiscal year 2627. 631 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:39,320 So that does mean today, if y'all vote to adopt the budget, y'all will be setting at least the expenditures in stone. 632 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:49,400 And so I do want y'all to take into consideration that if there's any changes that y'all want to make today, 633 00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:59,780 It's going to take a motion and it will take three of five of you voting to agree on that just like any other motion would. 634 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:07,720 So that's the general guardrails that I'd like to provide for this meeting. 635 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:18,580 I think we had a lot of discussion around salary and very little discussion around equipment 636 00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:35,960 And because, as I said last time, the general theme of this budget was, if it was an operational item, you got it, and if it was not an operational item, if it was a salary originally except for a few exceptions, that nobody got it. 637 00:56:37,760 --> 00:57:01,180 As of the last court, all the changes outside of the 2% polo were taken out, and so that really just left the 2% polo across the board for all the employees of the county. 638 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:13,240 And so my suggestion would be, and we could run this meeting however you want, but my suggestion would be, 639 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:25,160 unless there are some operational items that you all would like to discuss, and maybe education and travel for a couple of departments might be the only thing that I can recall. 640 00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:38,400 Maybe giving the departments an opportunity to speak about what they would like for the salaries and that seemed to be the source spot. 641 00:57:39,460 --> 00:57:41,700 But again, it's up to the court how they'd like to. 642 00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:45,800 But that would be my suggestion on how to handle today. 643 00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:55,320 So you want to let people get up and talk about the race that they want, even though we're 644 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,740 going to a percent across the board. 645 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:10,080 I think that in terms of what I've heard there are some people that would still like to advocate 646 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:15,780 and I think giving them an opportunity to advocate would be valid, even if the court is 647 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:23,280 is not going to make that change, but again, this is ultimately your budget and I'm just 648 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:29,260 devising you and what I think would be the most transparent way of handling this, so 649 00:58:29,260 --> 00:58:33,860 nobody seems. So nobody doesn't feel slided that they were treated unfairly. 650 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:41,100 The issue is that we've already heard from most everybody before, so is there anybody out in 651 00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:45,260 that didn't get to come speak on your stage. 652 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,420 Come on out, Stacey. 653 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,340 I'd like to reintroduce myself. 654 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:57,140 I'm Stacey's Ebola. 655 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,760 I am going into my 27th year practicing law. 656 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,800 And currently, I am doing that as the Potter County Guardian Adlightam, 657 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:11,120 which means I am the attorney for all of the children who have a CPS case 658 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,500 that originates out of Potter County. 659 00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:31,800 Potter County is a little bit different because we, as you know, have both hospitals, so that also means that any time, a child is born, possibly drug addicted, has to have some sort of CPS intervention, that comes through Potter County, not we're able to count me. 660 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,060 We are a relatively new department. 661 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,960 It's myself and my certified paralegal, 662 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,820 Kelly Deaton, Kelly keeps us from having to hire 663 00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:43,880 a second attorney. 664 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,960 Attorneys are expensive and I believe I could be wrong, 665 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,740 but I believe I'm the lowest paid attorney in the county. 666 00:59:52,940 --> 00:59:55,080 I may be wrong with that. 667 00:59:56,380 --> 00:59:58,560 So let me tell you a little bit about what I do. 668 00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,200 Um... 669 00:59:59,200 --> 00:59:59,820 I mean... 670 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,840 We have about 300 clients. We have new cases that start all the time, cases that close, but pretty much I've got 300 clients on the daily basis. The law requires that I meet with those clients, my clients range from infant to actually I've got some young adults up to 21. That I meet with them, or speak with their caretakers if they're very young, every time before I hear you, every time. So, every few months. 671 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:38,100 When our cases start we've got the adversary hearing 30 days later. We have another hearing a few months later 672 01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:44,440 We have another and then a few months later we have another so a lot of my time is spent in court 673 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,600 I've got court Tuesdays and Thursdays 674 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:59,980 But a lot of my time is spent meeting with the children and their caretakers and meeting with their teams at CPS who are advocating for them 675 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:08,680 If there's any kind of termination decision in terms of parents, I have to make a recommendation on that. 676 01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:13,980 I am extremely proud of the work that we do in Potter County. 677 01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:19,960 We've got a very high case load higher than the surrounding counties. 678 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:28,120 The last that I saw when I look in 2023, the Randall County position, 679 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:34,160 that does the same thing that I do, was listed as 123,000. 680 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:43,060 It also is important to note that we've got to have your workload than they do. 681 01:01:43,340 --> 01:01:49,560 And there's no getting around that luckily, the county attorney's office was not hit with 682 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,480 some of these changes, but since this department was created, there have been some legislative 683 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,400 of changes that required a whole new type of case. 684 01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:00,720 Those are family-based cases. 685 01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:03,700 Those used to not have council. 686 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,960 Now we've got these new family-based cases where I have to represent the children in those 687 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,580 cases as well. 688 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,860 Parents are also given attorneys in that point. 689 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:22,820 Luckily, the county attorney's office didn't have to take that hit because internal DFPS 690 01:02:22,820 --> 01:02:28,960 Council cover those cases. I am still covering those cases on behalf of Potter County for the children. 691 01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:37,680 I do think that for the work that we do, our office is still underpaid. 692 01:02:38,140 --> 01:02:45,560 I am asking simply for a salary of 115,000, which I believe is a 7% increase. 693 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:54,680 I would also like an increase for Kelly Dayton because she keeps us from having to hire another attorney, which is the bigger expense. 694 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,220 Thank you very much. 695 01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:57,880 What is sort of Kelly's salary? 696 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,760 I apologize, I do not have Kelly's salary. 697 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,200 I'm sorry? 698 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,200 54,000. 699 01:03:03,340 --> 01:03:04,280 54,000. 700 01:03:08,990 --> 01:03:15,610 So, say, what do you, what, what, what are, maybe you can tell me, what are other attorneys making? 701 01:03:16,310 --> 01:03:18,730 Why are she making so far under? 702 01:03:19,410 --> 01:03:30,450 I mean, the why just has to be, it's a function of where the position started in, you know, the colours that were given, and then there was a one time bomb. 703 01:03:30,850 --> 01:03:33,510 I mean, it's just a matter of the mouth. 704 01:03:35,950 --> 01:03:41,910 Ultimately, that is something that is within the quarks for augmenting, just like eating analysis salary. 705 01:03:42,370 --> 01:03:45,730 And so, you know, this is... 706 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:58,830 This is one of the reason you ask the reason why I wanted to bring this up is just because I wanted to make sure that everybody came out of this meeting knowing that it's going to be locked in place with the opportunity to speak if they said choose. 707 01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:01,330 And again, it's up to the court the only year. 708 01:04:02,030 --> 01:04:03,250 So I think we gave you a bump. 709 01:04:03,490 --> 01:04:04,530 Was it last year or year before? 710 01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:06,390 I think it's the year before before. 711 01:04:07,210 --> 01:04:08,900 I believe I met one of five. 712 01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:11,510 I could be wrong on that number. 713 01:04:12,290 --> 01:04:12,810 Probably not. 714 01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:14,370 I believe that's correct. 715 01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:15,610 I'm a drug expert. 716 01:04:16,370 --> 01:04:16,750 I'm a drug expert. 717 01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:17,890 I'm a drug expert. 718 01:04:17,890 --> 01:04:19,210 I'm a drug expert. 719 01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:24,610 Then you go with the color of the color of the color of the color. 720 01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:29,690 So what is the, so many tell me what is the starting salary for a drug expert? 721 01:04:30,070 --> 01:04:30,950 Like a person you are a attorney. 722 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:33,590 You're not a first year, but I mean what is the starting salary? 723 01:04:33,810 --> 01:04:35,310 It varies by department. 724 01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:37,490 Pick one. 725 01:04:38,030 --> 01:04:38,670 Accounting attorney. 726 01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:42,790 What is all, what is all, what is all, what is all, 727 01:04:42,790 --> 01:04:49,310 I don't 728 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,400 believe there are two positions posted right now, I don't know what they're posted 729 01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,700 time. 730 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:15,750 I can personally test about it. You guys are busy. I've never seen anything like that. I mean, you're very rarely 731 01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:24,530 that you're gone all the time. One of the things that's different about our kind of law is that it does require us to be out of the office very often. 732 01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:32,270 And because most of our kids are school age, in order to meet with them, that requires lots of nights and lots of weekends, 733 01:05:32,890 --> 01:05:39,350 unless I'm going to go and pull them out of school, and I try very hard not to do that. There are times when I do have to meet with children 734 01:05:39,350 --> 01:05:45,570 school. Summer is an easier time for us because we are a little bit we've got more flexibility 735 01:05:45,570 --> 01:05:52,430 in in meeting with the kids but with vacation schedule things like that there's no way to avoid 736 01:05:52,430 --> 01:06:00,870 nights and weekends two weekends ago I spent I did six visits in Amorillo on Saturday and 12 visits 737 01:06:00,870 --> 01:06:07,550 in Lubbock on Sunday. That's a pretty regular thing for me that I am in Lubbock at least once every 738 01:06:07,550 --> 01:06:13,570 two months, if not every month, and I pretty much work every weekend, maybe not all weekend, 739 01:06:14,050 --> 01:06:16,150 but every weekend when I'm in town. 740 01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:22,230 And to judge to answer your question, it's really hard because there's budgets on positions, 741 01:06:23,530 --> 01:06:29,430 but there's so many positions that are not at the full salary. 742 01:06:29,790 --> 01:06:36,990 And so I mean, it's a loaded question for me to speak on behalf of the three department 743 01:06:36,990 --> 01:06:45,010 I mean, what they start to people out, I can just tell you that a lot of, you know, none of them start their people 744 01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:50,470 seemingly at the, at the full budget for the position. 745 01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:53,770 So, I don't know. 746 01:06:54,750 --> 01:06:56,150 I mean, they've been practicing well again? 747 01:06:56,610 --> 01:06:57,290 27 years. 748 01:06:59,030 --> 01:06:59,810 27 years. 749 01:06:59,890 --> 01:07:02,410 Magna cum lock from Texas Tech. 750 01:07:02,410 --> 01:07:04,990 I'll offer you this for that. 751 01:07:05,070 --> 01:07:05,550 I don't care. 752 01:07:05,810 --> 01:07:06,410 I don't care. 753 01:07:09,050 --> 01:07:11,750 How long have you been doing this? 754 01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:12,450 This position. 755 01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:17,370 So this position was created in 21, and so I've been doing it since then. 756 01:07:18,530 --> 01:07:22,610 But I've been doing this type of work for probably about 14, 15 years. 757 01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:28,460 Stacey's in a unique position too. 758 01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:32,340 Her department is overseen by the commissioners court. 759 01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:37,960 like other legal departments that are headed by elected officials, so her positions a little 760 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:44,380 unique in that respect and so my recommendation would be to look at you know to get apples 761 01:07:44,380 --> 01:07:48,800 apples it would be it would be a rental counting or another county's counterpart doing 762 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:56,200 a similar position. And in a search from 23 before this change in law that increased the 763 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:02,240 does show Randall County had it at 123, and that was in 2020, 2030. 764 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:08,260 It was on my commotion, I believe she's correct, and I've also done some checking as well. 765 01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:14,580 And I think she is underpaid. I hate to open this, this can of her, but I think it's fair and equitable. 766 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:21,680 We are paying other attorneys with less experience that are working in office. 767 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:27,100 She's running off as we're doing all by herself and with her health, with her assistant. 768 01:08:30,260 --> 01:08:34,960 I may just, I see not asking for enough, so I appreciate you taking that into consideration. 769 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,120 I make that motion that we increase her salary and 150 has asked. 770 01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:43,540 The garden at Lidham is very valuable. 771 01:08:44,780 --> 01:08:51,540 I work district court and from town to town, they just had to call out and find a 772 01:08:51,540 --> 01:08:56,000 gardener that lied to me if they could find one. Sometimes some of the VA guys would 773 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:01,500 have to be the gardener that lied to me. And so I think it's such a valuable position. 774 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,860 And I know she runs all over town, I've heard about you, I've seen some of your work, 775 01:09:07,860 --> 01:09:14,180 I'll come and tackle some of your children, so I know what you do, and I believe on a couple 776 01:09:14,180 --> 01:09:20,020 of Sundays I just missed you leaving for where you were leaving, so I think it's a very 777 01:09:20,020 --> 01:09:26,320 valuable position, and I think I think it's very undefeated, so I think we should. 778 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,940 So, well, what was the amount against facing you as you want? 779 01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:30,920 One-fifteen. 780 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:31,780 One-fifteen. 781 01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:33,500 George, I've laid a motion. 782 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,960 I know, but I don't think it's- 783 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,780 And I should suck in that. 784 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,700 I'm going to have a very difficult time. 785 01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:45,160 I'm going to have some people come up here. 786 01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:48,940 I'm going to have some similar stories in deservedly places. 787 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:54,080 However, I'm going to have to, I'm going to be on the other side. 788 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,720 Because I think the two percent of everybody is already to go. 789 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,900 And if we start, the peace and everything. 790 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:09,840 I understand that this is a very unique situation. Just work in an opposite situation. 791 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:14,720 I'm not saying that she doesn't, but I'm just going to be a problem. 792 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,000 My opinion is I think that's something that we do have to look at. 793 01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:23,780 Is everybody individually? It's going to be hard. 794 01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:30,960 We're not going to make the right decisions on some of these people, but I think they all need to be heard on where they need to be paid. 795 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:36,020 more we think they need to be paid. We need to make those decisions and hear each one individually 796 01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:44,260 if needed. Because 2% that's basically a pay cut by almost one and a half percent if you 797 01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:49,820 count inflation. So, and a lot of these people like said they've had job duties added onto them, 798 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:57,660 trading more jobs have changed since the last time they have had pay raises or pay adjustments. 799 01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:01,100 And I think we do need to hear them and consider each one individually. 800 01:11:03,370 --> 01:11:06,530 And unless you'll have any more questions for me, I'll go ahead and sit down while you all discuss. 801 01:11:17,260 --> 01:11:19,440 Okay. I just think this is a unique situation. 802 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,920 Do you release the one we have in motion in a second? 803 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,140 I'm still talking. 804 01:11:27,500 --> 01:11:28,180 I'm still talking. 805 01:11:28,740 --> 01:11:33,600 And not to be greedy, but I would ask that Kelly be included in any kind of race. 806 01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:37,380 If we need to move my noun to move hers up, I wouldn't ask her. 807 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:46,140 Joe Zell was, well first kind of cool, I was very interested in starting this position actually. 808 01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:54,500 We're looking to the bottom, I'll talk to you about it, and I thought it was necessary that we saved money by hiring calcium inside. 809 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,880 And we did save a believer saved a look at like $100,000 by doing that. 810 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,320 I agree with Mr. Kelly. 811 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:14,970 We're in a quality where we're looking at a tax increase that I've never voted for before like that. 812 01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:17,330 And I think I don't think any of us have. 813 01:12:20,570 --> 01:12:26,430 But we've got a problem when we've got a problem when we've got a attorney not making. 814 01:12:27,190 --> 01:12:32,250 If she could work for Scott's office in the same job, she'd make probably 140. 815 01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:37,650 If it was open, if she went for the district attorney's office, I suspect she'd make her 816 01:12:37,650 --> 01:12:44,210 on the same thing, was her, was her, was her, was her, was her skills and abilities 817 01:12:44,210 --> 01:12:47,070 and having great, probably Randall County, 818 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,300 like I just, that's why I'm supporting her. 819 01:12:53,900 --> 01:13:01,850 Okay, so we have a motion on a second, all in favor, raise your hand, pose, pass this 820 01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:07,790 one. Congratulations, Stacey. You deserve it. I know you did. I'll watch you. You're never there. 821 01:13:08,290 --> 01:13:09,670 You cross the hall from me, you're never there. 822 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:13,210 Watch your left ear. 823 01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:24,990 But it appears this court has a month for the public defender's office. It's got money for the 824 01:13:24,990 --> 01:13:28,190 the guard in that line and which is great. I appreciate the fact that they have took 825 01:13:28,190 --> 01:13:32,630 jobs. So do my folks. I came here and asked you. 826 01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:38,290 So you don't have money for cops and you don't have money for prosecutors, but you have money for all the other lawyers in the county. 827 01:13:39,250 --> 01:13:40,690 Holy unfair and ridiculous. 828 01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:44,010 Thank you. 829 01:13:45,540 --> 01:13:46,800 Anybody else want to get out and speak? 830 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,260 So I still want my three percent and a hundred thousand I asked for a place. 831 01:13:54,620 --> 01:13:55,060 How's your? 832 01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:02,560 I know where you stand, but I'd be remiss if I didn't come up here in five from people at that park for me. 833 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,760 I've got four people in the process of looking for other jobs. 834 01:14:07,820 --> 01:14:12,240 They can go other agencies and make way more than what they're making with us. 835 01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:14,600 That's not counting, can't I? 836 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,260 I can't. 837 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,980 There's no way you can compete with that. 838 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,580 That's a lot of money out there. 839 01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:22,440 But these are looking at other agencies that are right here in the city. 840 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,220 And it's a huge pay you don't premium. 841 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,240 So I've got four looking right now. 842 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,160 Four short in the field. 843 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:35,440 That's not even counting what's over in the jail. We've got about seven that are short in the jail. So 844 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:41,680 Like I said, I would be remissed. I know where you guys have been. I said through this the other day. I all won't all day long. I understand 845 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:48,000 And you got a tough decision. I'd be but I would be remissed if I didn't at least get up here in a in-five 846 01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:33,130 Well, I support what you're doing, looking out for employees at the same time. I'm making $20,000 less than any fire chief in the area. My guys are at the bottom of the pay scale on everything. And just retaining them is going to be very difficult in the future. I think I would be remiss if I didn't get up here and remind all of the same thing. I make a lot less than the range of the fire chief. We have higher call volume. We have more equipment. We have less people. 847 01:15:33,930 --> 01:15:36,990 That is one of the other things that we look at too. 848 01:15:37,290 --> 01:15:41,890 He is pretty much every fire chief in the Panhandle area that we're comparing us ourselves to 849 01:15:42,670 --> 01:15:45,270 has more staffs and less responsibility. 850 01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:48,590 So it's something to look at with every department. 851 01:15:48,970 --> 01:15:50,170 Appreciate it. 852 01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:50,630 Thank you. 853 01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:51,230 Thanks, Richard. 854 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:56,720 Mr. Kelly was right. 855 01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:58,520 He's got up and up a can of worms. 856 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,960 And I will agree with RDA in our share. 857 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:10,080 If we're going to consider being the only one in office and never in office or whichever else 858 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,400 and always out in the field, you're comfortable around the field. 859 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,540 We're the lowest paid elected officials in this county. 860 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:24,200 We only have for small rates to even get up to a probably, I think, a corporal deputy 861 01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:26,260 with the sheriff's office. 862 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,620 We're not asking for 30,000 of the salary debt between us and the J.P. 863 01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:34,820 And the commissioners and every other elected official. 864 01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:40,780 So if we're going to look at that, please consider that as well as, you know, as a number 865 01:16:40,780 --> 01:16:42,240 of the official and law enforcement. 866 01:16:45,580 --> 01:16:46,300 Who else? 867 01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:56,970 Okay, I have someone in the audience, Alexa, Alexa, Ken, that would like to speak on the budget. 868 01:17:02,670 --> 01:17:03,050 Good morning. 869 01:17:04,210 --> 01:17:07,770 Yes, my name is Alexa, kid, I'm the executive director of the Department of Association 870 01:17:07,770 --> 01:17:08,690 of the Panhandle. 871 01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:14,710 I just don't think there's been a lot of appreciation that we could have been showing for 872 01:17:14,710 --> 01:17:17,650 the Constables, and I wanted to give that appreciation today. 873 01:17:19,450 --> 01:17:26,570 So we represent almost 400 members and over 21,000 rental units in the Panhandle, most of 874 01:17:26,570 --> 01:17:28,350 which are between Randall and Potter County. 875 01:17:29,530 --> 01:17:34,150 So I'm very recognized and expressed our appreciation for the Podger County Constables and 876 01:17:34,150 --> 01:17:38,670 essential role that they play in our community. For those who own and manage rental housing, 877 01:17:39,070 --> 01:17:43,350 consoles are not simply another government service, they are an important partner in helping 878 01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:48,670 us maintain safe and professional managed communities. Private rental housing providers interact 879 01:17:48,670 --> 01:17:53,410 with the public every single day, but that responsibility comes the educational situation that 880 01:17:53,410 --> 01:17:57,990 requires assistance. I want to emphasize that we understand these responsibilities are not always 881 01:17:57,990 --> 01:18:03,830 easy, and an eviction, for example, is just a legal process on cheaper. There are landlords 882 01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:09,290 to property managers residents and families involved, so motions can run high, and having 883 01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:13,690 trained professionals who know the law understand the process and know how to maintain 884 01:18:13,690 --> 01:18:16,910 order during those situations is incredibly important. 885 01:18:17,810 --> 01:18:21,850 For property owners and managers knowing that we have the Constables as a resource provides 886 01:18:21,850 --> 01:18:25,450 the level of security and confidence that's difficult to put a dollar value on. 887 01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:31,630 But perhaps just as important as a serviceism sells as the relationship to be able to develop 888 01:18:31,630 --> 01:18:36,930 with the Constables. They help us provide education to our members, become and speak to our 889 01:18:36,930 --> 01:18:43,590 members, and they really show how valuable their office is to us. I have so many members 890 01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:48,730 come to me which just praises about our Constables and how they help handle situations with 891 01:18:48,730 --> 01:18:54,170 tenants. Someone asked the Commission to recognize the importance of the Potter County 892 01:18:54,170 --> 01:18:58,390 Constables in the work that they do for our community and encourage them to continue to support 893 01:18:58,390 --> 01:19:01,310 and their services by providing their necessary funding. 894 01:19:02,110 --> 01:19:02,450 Thank you. 895 01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:03,310 Thank you, man. 896 01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:07,070 Also, Kristen McClure wants to speak on the budget. 897 01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:17,490 Good morning. 898 01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:17,890 Good morning. 899 01:19:17,890 --> 01:19:18,250 Good morning. 900 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:19,250 I'm Kristen McClure. 901 01:19:19,330 --> 01:19:21,630 I'm a property manager at Rock Island Apartments. 902 01:19:21,650 --> 01:19:26,150 So I oversee 360 units roughly about 700 residents. 903 01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:29,850 And here's to speak on the behalf of our rental housing community. 904 01:19:30,370 --> 01:19:34,870 And again, why the constables are so important to our industry and to the communities that we serve. 905 01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:39,550 As property managers, my job is not simply to manage buildings or collect rent. 906 01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:45,290 We are responsible for maintaining safe, stable communities for getting my roughly 700 people. 907 01:19:45,870 --> 01:19:50,750 Every day we deal with situations involving recent forcements, civil processes, evictions 908 01:19:50,750 --> 01:19:53,810 and residents who may be experiencing difficult situations. 909 01:19:54,490 --> 01:19:59,210 Having dependable constables available to assist with these matters is incredibly important. 910 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:13,200 All schools provide a service that directly impacts the rental housing industry. They help execute civil processes and enforce lawful court orders in situations that myself as a property manager can always safely do. 911 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:23,680 So, their presence provides a level of professionalism, authority, and safety that is necessary when dealing with difficult or potentially confrontational situations. 912 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:28,340 For property managers, an eviction is never just a business transaction. 913 01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:31,700 There are people involved, and emotions can run high. 914 01:20:32,340 --> 01:20:34,620 Having a considerable air to carry out a poor order, 915 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,240 ensures that the process is handled, accordingly, to the law, 916 01:20:38,420 --> 01:20:42,880 and helps protect everyone involved, including the resident and my staff. 917 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,500 Constables also serve as an important bridge between the courts, 918 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,320 property owners, and our communities. 919 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:55,020 They're working as the court decision, actually carried out in a timely and appropriate manner. 920 01:20:55,460 --> 01:20:58,920 When the process works efficiently, we all benefit from that. 921 01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:04,140 I understand that the county commissioners don't have a difficult decision to make when it comes to public 922 01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:05,920 to budgets and public resources. 923 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,860 But I would ask you to consider the broader impact of the Constables roles. 924 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:16,180 Their work supports not only property owners and management companies, but also represents 925 01:21:16,180 --> 01:21:19,900 neighborhoods and the overall stability of our rental housing district. 926 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:29,060 Here in Amarillo, we need constables who are available, properly supported, and equipped to continue to provide these essential services for us. 927 01:21:29,260 --> 01:21:30,840 I mean, half of the rental housing industry. 928 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:38,740 I want to say thank you to our constables for what they do and we truly value them and all the health they give us in our industry. 929 01:21:39,340 --> 01:21:41,040 And you all thank you for letting us speak. 930 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:41,900 Thank you. 931 01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:46,760 Alright, the next one is the Christine Euphor. 932 01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:48,440 I've heard of her. 933 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,460 I don't want to. 934 01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,740 I don't want to. 935 01:21:58,780 --> 01:21:59,620 I don't want to. 936 01:21:59,620 --> 01:22:03,100 I just wanted to also visit about the. 937 01:22:03,140 --> 01:22:05,600 Constables and speak from experience. 938 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,500 On evictions that I. 939 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,160 I can't. 940 01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:12,540 Tell you. 941 01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:14,880 What a crap shoot it is. 942 01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:17,780 You never know what you're going to get with an eviction. 943 01:22:17,780 --> 01:22:25,700 And when we have to enforce one, we may have a totally compliant person that is willing to move out, 944 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:33,480 but we also have squatters that are on meth and who knows what else and there's no telling what they do. 945 01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:35,060 And I haven't countered this. 946 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:45,660 And having that constables as a command presence diffuses a lot more than just, you know, showing up. 947 01:22:49,730 --> 01:22:58,950 They've helped me personally, not be injured, when I'm trying to protect the owners I represent and their property. 948 01:23:00,490 --> 01:23:06,770 They've kept me from getting bit by animals that are allowed on the property, but are there anyway. 949 01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:14,850 And so, you know, it's very personal to me as a property manager. 950 01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:21,890 And as a resident of Potter County, that we keep these people, we keep these good people 951 01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:28,110 who protect us, who protect our property owners, rights, and protect the neighbors, 952 01:23:28,630 --> 01:23:34,710 and helping us evict, you know, those who would do us harm. 953 01:23:35,290 --> 01:23:41,590 So, I would advocate that they need a raise, we need to keep what we got, we actually need 954 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:50,250 more than what we have, the homeless population has just exploded around here, and our eviction 955 01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:57,770 rate, they can tell you has exploded by the same amount. It's gotten crazy, and I do appreciate 956 01:23:57,770 --> 01:24:02,690 you guys letting us come and speak for them. Thank you, thank you. Judge, we have another one 957 01:24:02,690 --> 01:24:06,210 that just came in Melanie Scott. Okay, Melanie, right here? 958 01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:10,700 Good morning. Good morning. 959 01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:17,480 My name is Melanie Scott, I am a real turpinning, the business since 94, I'm a property manager, I'm also a landlord. 960 01:24:18,660 --> 01:24:25,240 And what I want to speak to you all about is not in disregard to our sheriff's office, our police department. 961 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,280 They do have phenomenal job. 962 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,900 However, they're limited with their resources, just like everybody else. 963 01:24:32,620 --> 01:24:36,460 When we need them as constables, and this is in the city limits. 964 01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:42,480 For evictions, for rits, for well checks, sometimes our police department, our sheriff's 965 01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:43,620 department can't get to it. 966 01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:45,220 They have too many other duties. 967 01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:50,380 If you're familiar with Senate Bill 38, we have a limited number of days to serve these 968 01:24:50,380 --> 01:24:50,980 rents now. 969 01:24:52,020 --> 01:24:53,680 Our constables is who we call. 970 01:24:54,140 --> 01:24:59,500 We rely on them for safety, for holding things in a timely manner and getting it done. 971 01:24:59,500 --> 01:24:59,980 And it's... 972 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:28,900 We want any disregard to any of our other departments. But in Potter County, that is who they go to and they get the job done. I am very concerned that if we were to not have our constables or have less of our constables, fewer number, this wouldn't be happening. And investors and Emma Rowland, people from all over, I can't tell you how important you talk, Montana. I have investors and investing in Amirilin. 973 01:25:28,900 --> 01:25:33,760 because they respect the law enforcement that we have. 974 01:25:34,180 --> 01:25:37,100 They respect, they keep these people out in a timely manner. 975 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,940 They respect that things are done safely and we're on top of it. 976 01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:45,880 I'm afraid, if you reduce the number of Constables, that is not going to be the case. 977 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,660 And we're going to be in a position where Senate Bill 38, we're going to be refiling and refiling. 978 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,060 And that's just because the main power shall be there. 979 01:25:54,060 --> 01:26:01,860 We have more population outside of the city limits now that our sheriff's are responsible for. 980 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:02,900 We see them patrolling. 981 01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:04,020 They're doing a great job. 982 01:26:04,220 --> 01:26:04,940 They're at the schools. 983 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,440 It's a fire department. 984 01:26:06,620 --> 01:26:07,560 That's another one. 985 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,720 They're out and they're busy. 986 01:26:10,180 --> 01:26:14,520 And it's because our populations have grown by leaps and bounds. 987 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,920 And it's not stopping. 988 01:26:17,420 --> 01:26:23,460 So my plea to you is really consider our customer's positions and understand what their duties are. 989 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,240 Thank you. 990 01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:27,100 Thank you. 991 01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:27,240 Thank you. 992 01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:27,720 Anybody else? 993 01:26:33,140 --> 01:26:33,280 Thank you. 994 01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:33,600 Good morning. 995 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,420 Good morning. 996 01:26:35,140 --> 01:26:41,560 I told y'all at the last budget meeting that I would have an update for you. 997 01:26:42,340 --> 01:26:50,420 So we had our TIDC quarterly meeting and we received word on Friday so it was not an 998 01:26:50,420 --> 01:26:50,700 agenda. 999 01:26:50,900 --> 01:26:51,380 I don't know. 1000 01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:54,100 I will bring this and put it as an agenda item coming forward. 1001 01:26:54,100 --> 01:27:03,560 But we were granted $341,800 for dollars as a county offset for this coming fiscal year. 1002 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:12,900 Now, that will be divided up amongst our six counties by the same percentage of the budget that each county puts in. 1003 01:27:13,340 --> 01:27:19,780 And just so that anyway, I'm aware, Brandon, the April 13 vote on our budget is still intact as well as correct. 1004 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:20,580 Yes. 1005 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:27,660 But how does this offset affect your budget? 1006 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:33,640 Does it just increases the amount that TIGC will reimburse part of the county? 1007 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,980 About 341,000. 1008 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,300 You're not talking about additional spending. 1009 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,020 No, I'm not talking about additional spending. 1010 01:27:39,380 --> 01:27:42,560 I just told that the court that I would update them. 1011 01:27:43,780 --> 01:27:45,240 And I will set this for another agenda. 1012 01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:47,500 I don't forget all the approval if you all want that money. 1013 01:27:53,070 --> 01:27:54,970 Anybody else? 1014 01:27:59,070 --> 01:27:59,170 Right. 1015 01:28:00,030 --> 01:28:05,480 So, right then, let's continue on with the welcome back to all of that. 1016 01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:08,260 I'm not asking for anything. 1017 01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:08,840 We're going to go. 1018 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,440 David, can you... 1019 01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:13,860 So, we're going to go all this by office. 1020 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,060 I asked for 2% coal in this old, I asked. 1021 01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:23,900 Correct. 1022 01:28:26,670 --> 01:28:32,010 So, like we said last time, there's really no changes here. 1023 01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:34,690 And there's just the 2% COLA, 1024 01:28:36,830 --> 01:28:42,470 the same thing for the commissioners, there's just 2% COLA, nobody wanted anything additional, 1025 01:28:44,710 --> 01:28:49,010 human resources, it's the same as last time. 1026 01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:03,100 I, the IT budget, 1027 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:11,400 I did check, or at least I've pulled it up, I haven't had a chance to double check, Julie. 1028 01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:30,210 Yes, the tech website's already included. 1029 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,400 No, it's, it was in here for 6,000. 1030 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:47,540 So we, we would need, we would need an additional 7,000 added to the IT budget. 1031 01:29:47,540 --> 01:29:53,740 And I'm sorry Brandon, did we get added those Azure licenses from the last school last time? 1032 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:54,940 Yes. Okay. Thank you. 1033 01:30:04,210 --> 01:30:13,590 Do you want me to keep a running telly of things that you want to add and do one motion at the end, or how do you want to handle that? 1034 01:30:13,850 --> 01:30:17,490 I think maybe the running telly, and then we can decide, 1035 01:30:19,540 --> 01:30:22,220 I don't know if we're going to misgo over every step of it today. 1036 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:27,580 Well, I thought you had just said, we're going to go over every line I don't want to do that. 1037 01:30:27,740 --> 01:30:28,640 We've done that. 1038 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,740 Okay. I thought that's what you had said. 1039 01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:39,360 I mean, I don't know what you wanted to do because you put this together, so do you want to do that again or no? 1040 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:44,440 No, no, that's typically not what I would recommend in this situation. 1041 01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:47,640 And it's not normally what we do with this. 1042 01:30:47,800 --> 01:31:00,720 Normally what at the second meeting is we resolve any discrepancies from the first meeting where there were people who wanted to ask 1043 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:09,180 advocate, again, give them another chance that things of that nature is usually what happens 1044 01:31:09,180 --> 01:31:16,000 at our second meeting because we've spent the entire day discussing this last time. 1045 01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:25,580 And so the going back to my point, my point really was in terms of operational items, 1046 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:29,100 that 1047 01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:38,120 That was, you know, if they asked for it, they pretty much got it, and so I didn't think 1048 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:43,860 we needed a really long discussion today about going through the operational line items again, 1049 01:31:43,860 --> 01:31:47,460 unless there's something somebody from the court wanted to bring up. 1050 01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:58,880 I do know last time there was some discussion about the travel and education for a couple 1051 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:04,320 of departments, I think the tax office was one that was not here and talked about it. 1052 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,500 Maybe they could talk about that would be one line item that I do recall that was kind 1053 01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:18,740 it was a $6,000 increase from $11,000 to $17,000 that was from the coffee you that wanted 1054 01:32:18,740 --> 01:32:20,620 to bring back. 1055 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,100 So, did you all want to go ahead and talk about that? 1056 01:32:25,220 --> 01:32:26,240 I'm happy to do that. 1057 01:32:31,490 --> 01:32:38,970 Morning Judge, missioners, hope you all are having a wonderful Monday. It's been a lot of fun. 1058 01:32:38,970 --> 01:32:40,690 He would like for that. 1059 01:32:41,190 --> 01:32:41,830 Yes, ma'am. 1060 01:32:42,770 --> 01:32:47,570 So our proposal, I think you've seen, we tried to make several reductions in line items 1061 01:32:47,570 --> 01:32:53,050 this year, because in our meeting with the judge, she said something that kind of stuck 1062 01:32:53,050 --> 01:32:53,850 with me. 1063 01:32:54,010 --> 01:32:58,230 She said, you know, if you want something, you're going to have to give something back, and 1064 01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:01,870 we're really aware of that, and so we tried to give back. 1065 01:33:03,630 --> 01:33:09,430 We are kind of, unfortunately, at the mercy of the increases on our postage and our stationary 1066 01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:13,770 unit and that supplies, and so we weren't able to reduce quite as much as we wanted, 1067 01:33:14,570 --> 01:33:20,490 but the only thing that we're asking for is kind of a want more than a need is the increase 1068 01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:22,090 in our education travel. 1069 01:33:22,350 --> 01:33:27,630 But the primary reason we wanted to do that is we wanted to send a couple of our book 1070 01:33:28,450 --> 01:33:43,750 to the property tax conference that's going to be held later this year, but that was primarily the other thing as we'd like to have the flexibility to reimburse mileage for some of our staff when they go out and inspect properties for the share of sales. 1071 01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:55,070 But that's primarily the reason. If the court would feel more comfortable with a lower number, we could maybe massage our budget a little bit to make a lower number work. 1072 01:33:55,070 --> 01:34:04,770 We just want the flexibility to be able to provide more opportunities for education for our staff and to reimburse them when they go out to inspect properties. 1073 01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:08,330 So I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1074 01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:13,330 Well, I'd certainly be interested in what you'd be willing to lower to. 1075 01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:15,210 Well, we, I don't know. 1076 01:34:15,230 --> 01:34:17,330 When we had nine hours, six point, what? 1077 01:34:17,690 --> 01:34:18,310 That actually increased. 1078 01:34:18,410 --> 01:34:18,670 We're in it. 1079 01:34:18,770 --> 01:34:20,110 It's about six point one and a half. 1080 01:34:21,010 --> 01:34:25,650 And so, well, $6,000 isn't going to do really anything. 1081 01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:31,590 I'll also find that other people have asked for things that we said no. 1082 01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:35,650 And that's stated there, and I had some questions about it. 1083 01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:38,810 So would you be happy that with the $2,000 increase? 1084 01:34:39,310 --> 01:34:39,650 Would that work? 1085 01:34:39,690 --> 01:34:42,350 Will that get your trainings that we keep my two in take four? 1086 01:34:42,650 --> 01:34:45,450 I was actually going to suggest cutting it by half, 1087 01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:48,990 so whatever the court's interest would be. 1088 01:34:48,990 --> 01:34:51,730 Well, certainly you've sent two people of $1,000 each piece. 1089 01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:53,050 I think we probably could. 1090 01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:56,050 It would still provide some difficulties 1091 01:34:56,050 --> 01:34:59,950 on reimbursing the mileage, but I think that we could definitely make. 1092 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,100 The tax conference work were too. 1093 01:35:04,660 --> 01:35:09,020 If you will tell the motion, I would like to do stand-out by a few of that by a ten minutes question. 1094 01:35:09,660 --> 01:35:10,200 Oh, I'm sorry? 1095 01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:16,900 To tell the public what they're going to get, for us $2,000. 1096 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:23,280 As far as what we specifically intend to do with that, what you don't have to conference, right? 1097 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,600 Yes, sir. What are we going to get from that? 1098 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:33,160 So, we want to get more training on the property tax law for our staff, particularly as it seems 1099 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:38,060 like it's kind of a moving target every year, you know, things get changed in the legislative 1100 01:35:38,060 --> 01:35:43,100 sessions and then they don't go into effect maybe a year or two later on a lot of the 1101 01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:43,760 property tax stuff. 1102 01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:48,780 So we just want people in our office who are knowledgeable about those things because having 1103 01:35:48,780 --> 01:35:53,940 people in our office who are knowledgeable about the changing field of property taxes and 1104 01:35:53,940 --> 01:35:59,440 along the mechanisms that we have to work with means that that's less time that we have 1105 01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:06,300 to waste going out and acquiring it all at depth of the fact or having to bother the county 1106 01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:13,720 attorneys office for opinions or having to bother Purdue Branden for opinions. So having 1107 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:18,380 that knowledge in our office, I think, is helpful. Does that answer your question? Yes, 1108 01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,320 You have any other questions I'd be happy to answer? 1109 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:26,760 All right. 1110 01:36:27,020 --> 01:36:27,520 Thank you. 1111 01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:32,320 I think it's good to allow the Department of Health, 1112 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,020 Electric Fisher, Assistant, your employees to training, 1113 01:36:35,420 --> 01:36:37,220 and also kind of directs up the amount of the job. 1114 01:36:38,740 --> 01:36:39,860 I've benefited from that. 1115 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,860 I think most people would. 1116 01:36:43,660 --> 01:36:45,140 And so my most important thing is to reduce 1117 01:36:45,140 --> 01:36:52,920 is asked for training and budget from 6,000 to 2,000, so reduce about 4,000. 1118 01:36:54,200 --> 01:37:03,020 It went from 11,000 to 17,000, so if you want to reduce it by 2,000 from his ask, 1119 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:09,380 you would reduce it from 17,000 to 15,000, or if you want to only give him an additional 1120 01:37:09,380 --> 01:37:12,160 2,000, you would go from 11,000 to 13,000. 1121 01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:18,320 Then my motion is for him to have 13,000 for his 20 budget. 1122 01:37:22,780 --> 01:37:23,800 13,000 total. 1123 01:37:24,580 --> 01:37:25,280 So what did you say? 1124 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,040 That's the moment of correct, right? 1125 01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:28,460 Yes, 13,000. 1126 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:35,640 If you're wanting to give him 2,000 more the last year, then yes, the correct number is 13,000. 1127 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,900 It's still warm with that help you, already go. 1128 01:37:38,180 --> 01:37:38,840 Yeah, there you are. 1129 01:37:39,660 --> 01:37:40,240 I have a motion. 1130 01:37:40,420 --> 01:37:41,320 I have a second. 1131 01:37:43,190 --> 01:37:44,030 I don't have a second. 1132 01:37:47,150 --> 01:37:50,350 So, have a motion and a second, all in favor of each year? 1133 01:37:53,070 --> 01:37:55,430 Oh, yeah, past five is a rule. 1134 01:37:58,610 --> 01:38:00,310 Okay, anybody else? 1135 01:38:01,070 --> 01:38:07,150 Would you like to go ahead and vote on the tech website to, to, to, to, 1136 01:38:07,390 --> 01:38:11,910 what we had in the budget was for 6000 and what was on the agenda today was for 1137 01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:17,210 of $15,200, we would need that increase into the IT's budget as well. 1138 01:38:25,570 --> 01:38:29,070 Huge point, why that is, let's talk about one more time. 1139 01:38:29,330 --> 01:38:32,630 You might just want to let you get a lot of the increase. 1140 01:38:33,910 --> 01:38:41,590 I have to think there are a lot more work that we have to kind of think of as a new problem. 1141 01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:49,190 We're on the DOJ in 237, we have to be an ADA compliant on our website. 1142 01:38:49,190 --> 01:38:53,770 They extended that from this year and so text just offering some different services. 1143 01:38:54,690 --> 01:38:58,830 I can almost guarantee you if you went out to somebody like Civic Plus. 1144 01:38:59,270 --> 01:39:03,010 Those other ones you're going to be paying a lot more than 13-2. 1145 01:39:03,230 --> 01:39:05,390 So they're the ones from 6 to 13? 1146 01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:06,350 Yes. 1147 01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:10,010 And all counties that have the tech server website, 1148 01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:13,650 they're facing this challenge as well, 1149 01:39:14,150 --> 01:39:18,750 and they've actually gone out to other vendors and they're coming back to tech. 1150 01:39:21,650 --> 01:39:51,290 I would say the attack has been a good partner in terms of sport, pricing compared to the open market and who things that I've seen, so they are not for profitability and I think that gives them an advantage in terms of, they're not trying to, you know, they don't have investors that they're trying to increase the investment on, they're simply exiting the tries to help Texas counties. 1151 01:39:52,090 --> 01:39:59,010 So I'm not advocating for them, but in terms of pricing, I would say that that's a reasonable thing to assume. 1152 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,380 If you're getting your service from the non-profit entity, it's probably going to be cheaper than going out on the market. 1153 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,880 Do you need a motion for that? 1154 01:40:09,540 --> 01:40:21,770 Yes, just because we need an additional $7,200 in the budget for the ITs, 1155 01:40:27,050 --> 01:40:28,890 let me give you the exact name. 1156 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:46,620 While he's looking at up to you, same question, what are the constituents in part of county going to get for this? 1157 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,620 Website that's easily accessible. 1158 01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:53,880 I think that we do a really good job of keeping everything up to date. 1159 01:40:56,420 --> 01:41:01,180 It's easier to use than it was whenever we first migrated over to this particular website. 1160 01:41:01,180 --> 01:41:07,940 We've paired it down from hundreds of pages down to what we currently have now, so just the 1161 01:41:07,940 --> 01:41:14,520 ease of access and everybody that the great thing about the tech website is that I'm 1162 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,040 the, you know, Courtney and I are the administrator on our page. 1163 01:41:17,220 --> 01:41:22,220 I'm the administrator for the whole county county attorneys offices, the administrator, you 1164 01:41:22,220 --> 01:41:25,940 know, who ever else wants to be the administrator for their webpage, so they actually get 1165 01:41:25,940 --> 01:41:31,160 to maintain that and have it look how they want and so they have been just a, or putting 1166 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:37,660 out there what they want instead of having to rely on somebody else and it's Texas 1167 01:41:37,660 --> 01:41:41,940 base too. I'll have to put that out there. We have a lot of we currently have a 1168 01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:46,980 system right now that we we try to talk to people and they're not within this 1169 01:41:46,980 --> 01:41:52,560 country. So it is interesting to have a Texas-based website owner. 1170 01:41:57,180 --> 01:42:01,140 What was 1171 01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:09,800 Department of Software or Maintenance Account from 785,585 to 712,785. 1172 01:42:10,700 --> 01:42:12,180 What's the, what's the actual number for this? 1173 01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:12,600 What was it? 1174 01:42:12,620 --> 01:42:13,240 6,000. 1175 01:42:13,300 --> 01:42:14,800 11,200. 1176 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,100 I'll make that motion. 1177 01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:19,320 Okay. 1178 01:42:19,660 --> 01:42:19,800 I have a second. 1179 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,220 I have a motion in a second. 1180 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,920 The only favor is your hand. 1181 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,300 I suppose that pass is found to zero. 1182 01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:33,270 The lock was slowly making that text straight. 1183 01:42:33,450 --> 01:42:33,830 Go up. 1184 01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:41,850 Okay, I have two more people. Do you want people that want to speak? 1185 01:42:42,410 --> 01:42:45,190 So there's some questions about my power like $5,000. 1186 01:42:45,190 --> 01:42:47,430 $5,000 is fine and costable for. 1187 01:42:48,690 --> 01:42:52,410 I rounded up, because I always look, well, you know, it's come in fully rigged, 1188 01:42:52,630 --> 01:42:54,430 but there's other things that have to be done. 1189 01:42:55,230 --> 01:42:57,770 I'm assuming the shares also be able to do those things. 1190 01:42:58,290 --> 01:43:03,430 So that's $5,000 you put mine equal to what Constable Jackson's vehicle is. 1191 01:43:03,450 --> 01:43:04,950 But there are $5,000 that. 1192 01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:05,250 Yes. 1193 01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:11,130 Yeah, just take that out and put it equal to what here's is and I think with a new car if I get it 1194 01:43:11,890 --> 01:43:17,010 It'll be covered out of the warranty and I'll have to spend anything big problem is my car is having problems again 1195 01:43:17,010 --> 01:43:19,290 So I'll make it last 1196 01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:21,930 So if that'll help out any 1197 01:43:21,930 --> 01:43:28,990 I don't know how a certain paper Saturday didn't do a check engine line died in the middle of an intercession 1198 01:43:28,990 --> 01:43:36,610 So, but at times, it started back up that there's, you know, $5,000 to help out. 1199 01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:37,830 It should take off in mind. 1200 01:43:39,090 --> 01:43:51,210 This will come out of the capital outlayed for the constable, for constable one. 1201 01:43:51,210 --> 01:44:05,370 And it will go from 96,000 to 91,000 and the reduction is $5,000 and that will put it in line with constable force purchases. 1202 01:44:07,060 --> 01:44:08,900 You did a motion on that? 1203 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,120 Yes. I'll change his need of motion. 1204 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,060 I moved to approve that. That's presented. 1205 01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:14,360 Second. 1206 01:44:14,980 --> 01:44:16,840 The motion in a second on a favor, right? 1207 01:44:17,540 --> 01:44:18,020 Yeah. 1208 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,100 What was that past this time, Super? 1209 01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:25,700 All right, I have a couple more people, Tiffany Billflower, I want to speak. 1210 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,440 Tiffany, come on up 1211 01:44:30,610 --> 01:44:32,330 or come on bail, whatever. 1212 01:44:33,390 --> 01:44:34,470 How are you today, ma'am? 1213 01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:36,250 Good, how are you guys this morning? 1214 01:44:36,830 --> 01:44:41,270 I came in a little bit late and trying to play a little bit of catch-up of what's going on 1215 01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:43,610 as far as the consumables go. 1216 01:44:43,950 --> 01:44:46,810 So, my I really just have a basic thing to say. 1217 01:44:46,810 --> 01:44:50,210 the work that they do for me as a property manager. 1218 01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:52,270 They help us a lot. 1219 01:44:52,530 --> 01:44:55,030 We deal with a lot of interesting characters 1220 01:44:55,610 --> 01:44:56,690 in property management. 1221 01:44:56,810 --> 01:44:59,910 Some tenants in the way that they respond to evictions. 1222 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,860 And things like that. And I can say these consumables have had our back and helped me with some pretty unique situations. 1223 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:15,280 And I'm just really grateful for the work that they do. I don't know if our community really understands what they have to do with day in and day out. 1224 01:45:16,260 --> 01:45:22,740 And some of the videos that I've seen with houses that they've had to go in and clear out and things are worse than some of the ones that I've seen. 1225 01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:26,000 So I just really want to say how much I respect our 1226 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,700 Constables and I think the work that they do is 1227 01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:30,920 Inmeasurable and I could not do the things that they do 1228 01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,680 So I just really appreciate them and just wanted to make sure that 1229 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,960 That it's known that what they do for us is property managers 1230 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,460 It matters and we're just grateful for that. 1231 01:45:39,820 --> 01:45:40,940 Thank you guys. 1232 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:42,940 Ray, great house. 1233 01:45:49,180 --> 01:45:49,900 Good morning. 1234 01:45:50,140 --> 01:45:52,240 It's hard to follow up after that because she 1235 01:45:52,780 --> 01:45:54,540 Pretty much said everything I was going to say 1236 01:45:54,540 --> 01:45:57,840 Even better but literally two weeks ago I had a 1237 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,880 of possession and these two wonderful Constables showed up and the guy was very aggressive 1238 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,880 and so as a female property manager that has to manage her own properties and a few 1239 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:11,860 others, it is very, very well received that they show up for us. 1240 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:16,960 So I just wanted to be known as well that they are very needed in the real estate world 1241 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:21,640 and property management and rentals for us because they support us getting the homes back 1242 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:22,700 and keeping it safe. 1243 01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:24,620 So thank you guys for what you do. 1244 01:46:24,620 --> 01:46:24,920 And 1245 01:46:32,410 --> 01:46:33,790 where are we now bringing it? 1246 01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:56,820 The judge, there was one other small item that was brought to my attention. 1247 01:46:58,180 --> 01:47:07,420 There was a request for a B3s to the awards and recognition line of 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. 1248 01:47:23,340 --> 01:47:27,420 I think it's the employee appreciation committee is Berks still here. 1249 01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:29,940 Yeah, they had a meeting, I wouldn't have the meeting. 1250 01:47:30,540 --> 01:47:30,760 Okay. 1251 01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:32,640 Bro, do you mind explaining that to us? 1252 01:47:32,900 --> 01:47:35,220 I mean, I know you want to increase, but can you tell me? 1253 01:47:35,220 --> 01:47:40,820 So we're wanting to go from an evening event to that time event and it's my understanding that 1254 01:47:40,820 --> 01:47:46,100 the course Calboy Club won't cook for us during the day, so we're going to have to have a little 1255 01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:50,580 bit of extra money to feed the employees. We feel like we'll have a better turn out during the 1256 01:47:50,580 --> 01:48:05,200 day than we have in the evening. It's kind of dwindling. It would be a week later. Yeah, it'll be 1257 01:48:13,500 --> 01:48:15,360 Just an idea we're tossing around. 1258 01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:19,160 We used to have more money in that one item, I believe, than it got lowered. 1259 01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:26,580 No, it was at $5,000, and then it got lowered to $1,000, and now it got raised back to $5,000. 1260 01:48:27,340 --> 01:48:32,700 So I think we're just requesting $2,000 more. 1261 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:39,720 That's true, but this is for the employees and so this is something that 1262 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:45,860 We try to be every year to offer to the employees, you know, to the employee appreciation dinner. 1263 01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:51,940 So that was just something that, again, like I said, I wasn't at this meeting, but I've been on the committee for a long time. 1264 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:56,640 And it's just a way to show the employees that they're appreciated. 1265 01:49:18,940 --> 01:49:23,040 We just discussed that a lot of people can't come because they can't bring their children. 1266 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,980 We feel like we'd have a better turn out during the day because employees are already at work. 1267 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,180 Our office is at close for just a little offer. 1268 01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:40,080 So maybe a better opportunity for them to attend rather than an evening event. 1269 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:41,960 I get that. 1270 01:49:44,230 --> 01:49:44,470 Okay. 1271 01:49:45,470 --> 01:49:47,810 We need a vote on this too. 1272 01:49:48,650 --> 01:49:52,190 Is there a motion for changing the budget? 1273 01:49:53,670 --> 01:49:57,590 I mean, that's, that's, I don't think if you want to, someone has to make motion. 1274 01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:59,970 I mean, at this point, any chance. 1275 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,890 All right, do I have a motion on this? 1276 01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:16,750 Do I have a motion? 1277 01:50:19,290 --> 01:50:20,010 Do I have a motion? Do I have a motion? 1278 01:50:20,270 --> 01:50:20,770 Do I have a motion? Do I have a motion? 1279 01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:24,340 Sorry, Brooke. 1280 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:31,100 Okay, what else? 1281 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:35,860 David, can you help me out? 1282 01:51:17,380 --> 01:51:23,700 I do know that there was at least a point to bring up a warning to discuss. 1283 01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:30,760 I was brought up to me this week to discuss the request of Constantine III in wanting to add a position 1284 01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:34,900 the force of security out of JP III. 1285 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:40,680 Dennis here. 1286 01:51:42,250 --> 01:51:46,650 You're not discussing the other day and you said, I see that you said no and I said, yeah, because 1287 01:51:46,650 --> 01:51:47,310 okay. 1288 01:51:50,930 --> 01:51:54,550 So the piece here, we can talk to him again, but he's not here right now. 1289 01:51:54,690 --> 01:51:56,070 It's going to go past that one. 1290 01:51:58,650 --> 01:52:00,750 Does Jackson, do you want to talk about it? 1291 01:52:00,870 --> 01:52:03,690 I don't know if you're very interested in it. 1292 01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:05,630 I mean, I'm here. 1293 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,600 I'm going to have to say a couple of things. 1294 01:52:10,780 --> 01:52:12,820 I don't know if you're going to have to hear it. 1295 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,220 I mean, if you're sitting, 1296 01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:27,450 I can just try to do that. 1297 01:52:46,850 --> 01:52:55,730 The next department then is the sheriff's department, I mean, that's the, that would be the, 1298 01:52:55,730 --> 01:53:04,090 um, is there any interest in entertaining this from the console over the sheriff's department? 1299 01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,700 who's still talking about the courasqueer. 1300 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,520 I would have a cave in the sheriff's office to do that. 1301 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,180 The problem is this is money. 1302 01:53:18,060 --> 01:53:23,060 And if we allow a constable to hire a deputy, 1303 01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:28,040 the deputy for courasqueer is going to make more than the castle. 1304 01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:34,760 It gets some issues with that, but I don't think we can fix that today. 1305 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:40,590 I certainly wouldn't advocate for us to do that, and I think it's the size of that, the 1306 01:53:40,590 --> 01:53:44,350 fear of solstice responsible for courthouse security, and that's a courthouse. 1307 01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:48,670 Sure, you've got up and said you would do that, 1308 01:53:51,490 --> 01:53:52,330 and we got to find a person. 1309 01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:00,080 So, okay, so Judge Jackson, do you have court every day? 1310 01:54:00,460 --> 01:54:04,980 We have a court on a ad in the three to four times a week. 1311 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:06,480 All day? 1312 01:54:09,940 --> 01:54:14,420 And that's enough for the act of conflict, and that's enough for the act of conflict. 1313 01:54:14,420 --> 01:54:16,120 It's not for the court security. 1314 01:54:16,460 --> 01:54:17,820 It's for our security. 1315 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:18,440 I don't know. 1316 01:54:18,980 --> 01:54:20,380 It's for his office. 1317 01:54:20,620 --> 01:54:24,740 Well, but it's, but the cost was required, but it's responsible. 1318 01:54:25,260 --> 01:54:25,940 It's here in the court. 1319 01:54:26,620 --> 01:54:28,640 And the court has to be responsible for the court. 1320 01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:29,140 I know. 1321 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,340 That's why I was asking how many times it happened. 1322 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:32,920 Well, I'm sorry. 1323 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:34,000 I thought you were trying to do it. 1324 01:54:34,020 --> 01:54:34,780 No, no. 1325 01:54:34,780 --> 01:54:39,680 If we could do less math, I heard him. 1326 01:54:40,340 --> 01:54:43,860 Sheriff, she had somebody that could help out with that. 1327 01:54:44,220 --> 01:54:46,920 Or is that something they even know? 1328 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:48,320 Yes or no? 1329 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:51,880 So you would have to hire somebody. 1330 01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,580 And what's the starting pay? 1331 01:54:54,580 --> 01:54:55,860 What's the starting pay for him? 1332 01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:19,320 Okay, I want to let you all think on that. Sure, if we're going to take a 10 minute break. 1333 01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:46,100 All right, 1334 01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:50,900 bring it. I'll let you one, say which we're going to say. 1335 01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:57,050 Well, Judge, I just really wanted to actually 1336 01:55:57,050 --> 01:56:07,870 give it back to the court. We have talked about the whole budget. And I really just would like to know if the court has any 1337 01:56:07,870 --> 01:56:15,530 questions about the budget, anything that the court wants to bring up rather than try to, 1338 01:56:15,530 --> 01:56:20,630 you know, try to figure something out from my side. 1339 01:56:20,990 --> 01:56:26,950 Because ultimately this is the budget that you all need to load on and adopt. 1340 01:56:27,690 --> 01:56:37,850 So, between the meetings we've had and the conversations and the last commissioner court 1341 01:56:37,850 --> 01:56:43,550 where we have a special court, and we focus today on this, and the discussions today, is there 1342 01:56:43,550 --> 01:56:50,710 anything that the court wants to bring up any member of the court wants to bring up to be added 1343 01:56:50,710 --> 01:56:52,970 to the budget or to take away from the budget? 1344 01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,540 Yes, I'd like to bring up what we're doing with the 1345 01:56:59,540 --> 01:57:00,500 firemen. 1346 01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:09,180 And we're talked about trying to keep up or even move with the civilian market or other 1347 01:57:09,180 --> 01:57:13,160 agencies like how we're trying to pay the lawyers, at least keep them within the reasonable 1348 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:13,960 pay range. 1349 01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:20,360 We need to desperately look at our prior department, pulled up some members since we 1350 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:21,400 had our last meeting. 1351 01:57:22,380 --> 01:57:27,880 Right now, starting pay for Putter County, is $49,148. 1352 01:57:28,940 --> 01:57:35,280 Randall County, which is our closest person, is $49,552. 1353 01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:42,720 So about $400 difference, but then you start looking at Emorello if you're looking at $13,171 difference. 1354 01:57:43,180 --> 01:57:47,480 If you go to somebody like Lubbock, which is still within our range for where people are going to go 1355 01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:55,920 be working for, you're looking at $20,000 difference. The fireman's job doesn't change just because 1356 01:57:55,920 --> 01:58:01,120 you change the white letters on the truck. You whether it goes from Randall County to Potter County, 1357 01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:07,600 city of Marello. They're still doing the same jobs and the hiring base of what they're doing is 1358 01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:15,980 still the same. The fireman really hadn't gotten pay raises for say in a long time as it even 1359 01:58:15,980 --> 01:58:22,240 trying to keep up and I know we can't compete with the city but we need to keep moving that direction. 1360 01:58:22,580 --> 01:58:29,100 Right now the city is talking about doing a 3% pay raise so you're taking that $13,000. We're looking 1361 01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:35,400 And maybe a 2% they're looking at 3% so let's about there's up to $14,000 difference now. 1362 01:58:35,780 --> 01:58:36,620 And that's just the beginning. 1363 01:58:36,740 --> 01:58:42,380 You move up to where compared to Randall County, which I don't like doing, but let's go 1364 01:58:42,380 --> 01:58:43,420 and do it just for the numbers. 1365 01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:51,580 An assistant chief with Randall County is making $22,094 more than we are here at Carter County. 1366 01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:57,920 And when you're trying to replace these chiefs out here, assistant chiefs, even captains, 1367 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,760 Lieutenant's, Lieutenant's are making almost $10,000 more in rental county. 1368 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:09,420 We're not going to be able to replace our staff when they're retired or leave to go to 1369 01:59:09,420 --> 01:59:10,140 these other places. 1370 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:14,300 And we're not going to be able to hire the new people to move on up in the ranks. 1371 01:59:15,300 --> 01:59:19,680 You know, if you're a young person 22, 23 years old, or you're going to go to Potter County, 1372 01:59:20,140 --> 01:59:26,400 or you're going to go to Lubbock that's paying $20,000 more for the same job, same skills, 1373 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:31,040 These guys and ladies are extremely highly skilled with the training they'll have to do. 1374 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:36,620 This isn't back in the 80s and 90s where you'll just take somebody that wants to volunteer for the fire department 1375 01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:40,480 thrown through two-weeking classes and throw them on a truck. 1376 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:45,580 The training that these people have to go to now, the hours they have to work, 1377 01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:53,480 on average, the fireman's work in an extra, they're working about 58-hour weeks compared to the normal person to 40-hour week. 1378 01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:57,320 and we're paying a lot less than most, 1379 01:59:58,020 --> 02:00:00,000 something even just a regular day. 1380 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,960 Great time job in an office. These guys in ladies are making considerable bit less, and they're risking 1381 02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:12,180 their lives. They're doing CPR on your grandma that's about to pass away. They're out there in the fires. 1382 02:00:13,260 --> 02:00:20,960 They're real tribune just did a great article on our Putter County Fire Department, how good they were doing on fire recently. 1383 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:30,300 And it was the experience that they were talking about on how well it was handled and it could have been a lot different if we wouldn't have that experience chief out there or 1384 02:00:30,300 --> 02:00:31,900 Assistant chief out there 1385 02:00:31,900 --> 02:00:33,380 Handling that fire 1386 02:00:33,380 --> 02:00:33,900 I 1387 02:00:34,660 --> 02:00:42,360 Think we should do a 5% pay raise for the fire department and that's going to be no more close to even breaking even with the city 1388 02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:46,560 It would get us even with Randall County for the beginning fire fighter 1389 02:00:47,460 --> 02:00:49,440 we would still be 1390 02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:58,820 be $18,000 behind on a chief, would be $1,000 behind on a captain, and would be over $6,000 1391 02:00:58,820 --> 02:01:04,700 behind on a lieutenant. But at least they would get the beginning person the same pay. So 1392 02:01:04,700 --> 02:01:11,120 at least we could compete on the beginning bottom level. And move up there, there's something 1393 02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:17,800 that's going to take multiple years to adjust. Like I said, coming up $22,000, and that's 1394 02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:23,040 to rent a car stop comparing to the city or anything like that. The city would be looking at 1395 02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:28,400 $37,000 behind when you start looking at the captain's pet. I mean that's a whole 1396 02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:37,880 other paycheck for a lot of people. But I think we need to look at 5% that would take for the general 1397 02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:47,100 budget, it would add about $81,314 and to the CAD it would add about $78,395 approximately. 1398 02:01:47,980 --> 02:01:53,540 Um, Brandon can maybe crunch the numbers better here to many if we do discuss this, but 1399 02:01:53,540 --> 02:01:56,900 I think that's something we're greatly need to look at, or we're just not going to have 1400 02:01:56,900 --> 02:02:01,620 a fire department, surely because we're not going to be able to compete, we're just going to 1401 02:02:01,620 --> 02:02:03,140 keep following further and further behind. 1402 02:02:07,780 --> 02:02:07,940 Brandon, yes. 1403 02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:10,980 Brandon, what's the current tax rate that we're at right now? 1404 02:02:10,980 --> 02:02:12,200 What's the first half? 1405 02:02:12,540 --> 02:02:13,000 Six more. 1406 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:27,760 Um, we are looking at about a 6.1% tax rate increase. 1407 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:28,120 yes. 1408 02:02:30,620 --> 02:02:30,900 So, 1409 02:02:34,740 --> 02:02:39,660 I think that is, I don't know who said it, but we're not, we're definitely not 1410 02:02:39,660 --> 02:02:40,680 keeping up with inflation, 1411 02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:48,760 but you haven't. We've got a huge tax increase, we're looking 1412 02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:55,840 at, but if we were right now we're in a 2% across the board, what would a 3% mean? What 1413 02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,180 would that be? 1414 02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:06,360 I don't know if you could even do a 3% across the board at this point right now. 1415 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,140 Well, okay, let me phrase everything properly. 1416 02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:17,460 When you're talking about the various, no 1417 02:03:19,660 --> 02:03:23,620 new revenue rate, the voter approval rate, the 1418 02:03:23,620 --> 02:03:32,580 to implement, you know, our voter approval rate with the unused increment, with all of 1419 02:03:32,580 --> 02:03:36,660 our unused increment, is about 6.8 percent effective. 1420 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:48,120 And so that is only about another 479,000 dollars that you can go up to without from where 1421 02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:54,840 currently are without triggering an election. 1422 02:03:55,460 --> 02:03:58,980 And so you could go above that voter approval rate 1423 02:03:58,980 --> 02:04:03,720 that you would need to hold an election to do it. 1424 02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:10,880 And so that's historically, we haven't ever gotten to that point. 1425 02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:19,600 you know. But it is within the courts prerogative to do that. The mechanics of it, I'll be 1426 02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:25,780 honest, since we haven't done it before, I don't know what the next steps of actually holding 1427 02:04:25,780 --> 02:04:31,600 the election and all the, it's in statute, so it's obviously something that you can do, 1428 02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:37,700 but it is something we would need to consider to, that you'd have to take it to the taxpayer. 1429 02:04:37,700 --> 02:04:43,100 Well, the reason I asked that is because I understand that the Randall County, our counterparts, 1430 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,500 is giving a 2% with a 1% discretionary. 1431 02:04:50,370 --> 02:04:51,270 And so, 1432 02:04:53,830 --> 02:04:56,790 I mean, they're also not doing a 6% tax increase either. 1433 02:04:58,710 --> 02:04:59,830 But so. 1434 02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,200 Thank you for answering my 1435 02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:06,520 question. 1436 02:05:06,700 --> 02:05:08,060 Anybody else have any remarks? 1437 02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:11,040 We're talking about 1438 02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,480 where I appreciate you talking about that. 1439 02:05:15,740 --> 02:05:18,060 But I'm not appreciate what you guys do. 1440 02:05:18,260 --> 02:05:18,800 The fire department. 1441 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:25,820 I'm just afraid if we don't do something to at least move that direction. 1442 02:05:26,620 --> 02:05:28,960 They are going to be coming back and asking for that $30,000. 1443 02:05:30,900 --> 02:05:33,340 It may not be next year, but it's going to be very soon. 1444 02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:40,300 We're not even, we're not even staying close, even with our closest neighbor of Randall County. 1445 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:48,900 Twenty-two thousand dollars difference in the same job, and the only thing we did was change an R and a P on the truck. 1446 02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,660 They both still say county, and there's a big difference. 1447 02:05:55,640 --> 02:06:03,760 The jobs say the same, the skills say the same, and what they have to do with the emergency medical training they have to require 1448 02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:11,880 The lot wild land certifications, the structural certifications is just getting more and more each year on their skills that they're requiring. 1449 02:06:12,620 --> 02:06:18,820 And if we don't compensate them for their skills, knowledge and experience, we're going to lose them to other departments and quickly. 1450 02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:25,080 And I'm not asking to even get remotely close to the same pay even as Randall County. 1451 02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:30,020 I'm just asking that we move and not fall further and further behind. 1452 02:06:30,020 --> 02:06:30,720 Anybody 1453 02:06:39,490 --> 02:06:41,930 have anything else to say about that? 1454 02:06:44,780 --> 02:06:45,780 I understand what you're saying. 1455 02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:46,480 Where are I? 1456 02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:47,380 I really do. 1457 02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,320 I wish we could do it. 1458 02:06:49,700 --> 02:06:51,000 I can't do it. 1459 02:06:51,140 --> 02:06:52,540 I cannot raise taxes 6. 1460 02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:54,800 Right now, 6.1. 1461 02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:55,700 I'm going to have. 1462 02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:59,180 We're just going to go out to 6.7 if we get everybody with the one. 1463 02:06:59,380 --> 02:07:00,340 I can't do that. 1464 02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:01,900 It's just not feasible. 1465 02:07:05,340 --> 02:07:12,280 So, Sheriff, can you come up and tell me one more time about the person that works in my courthouse? 1466 02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:19,740 that we could use on those deputies to be a security at the TIP-3. 1467 02:07:20,180 --> 02:07:22,460 We're still one short in our courthouse security. 1468 02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:26,820 We have in our budget to have two in the old courthouse. 1469 02:07:27,820 --> 02:07:35,240 We could take that position and move that out to JPE-3, but we still have to find that position. 1470 02:07:36,740 --> 02:07:40,160 As I said, there's a great job over there, and I don't think he has any problem to handle 1471 02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,780 and that kind of thing, plus he's right down here down town, 1472 02:07:43,140 --> 02:07:44,580 he could have back up pretty quick, 1473 02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,100 even if somebody had to run from here over there. 1474 02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:48,920 They've got a lot of enforcement upstairs 1475 02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:50,680 if they needed to come down. 1476 02:07:51,140 --> 02:07:52,380 They may be outrun, and I'm not saying 1477 02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:54,240 that they're always up there on the board, 1478 02:07:54,660 --> 02:07:56,360 but they could help if they needed to, 1479 02:07:56,420 --> 02:07:59,360 but I think we could be able to take care of that if we need it. 1480 02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:02,720 But that just saves you, but given another person, 1481 02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:04,180 we could move that one out there. 1482 02:08:04,660 --> 02:08:06,780 He's got a machine out there that has been there 1483 02:08:06,780 --> 02:08:09,520 for over a year that, good lord, 1484 02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:15,200 I don't even know if it'll work, but I have to send somebody out here to make it work, and that's their extraordinary machine. 1485 02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:20,520 It's just sitting there, and you gotta have somebody that's certified to be able to work on that, or even you. 1486 02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:22,760 Well, it's not working yet, you don't have to work. 1487 02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:23,520 No. 1488 02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:23,860 Okay. 1489 02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:25,020 Why don't you work through it? 1490 02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:25,920 Okay. 1491 02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:28,200 But they have to calibrate it in order. 1492 02:08:28,340 --> 02:08:30,660 Does it make, does it make trust that they have a gun? 1493 02:08:32,340 --> 02:08:32,540 Okay. 1494 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:34,160 So, so we can do that. 1495 02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:38,400 That was saying, that would give him what he needs, and that would say. 1496 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,820 I mean, we only need one at the courthouse, and we've got- 1497 02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:44,000 You've been running with one over there for a long time. 1498 02:08:44,660 --> 02:08:46,740 Yeah. So let's do that. That's one thing. 1499 02:08:46,820 --> 02:08:50,400 I mean, this is another way of saving and helping you. 1500 02:08:51,580 --> 02:08:54,040 Like I said, it's, I just think it's a good idea, 1501 02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,460 but again, it's one way to take care of that. 1502 02:08:58,020 --> 02:09:00,180 And like I said, these guys downstairs, if they need a two, 1503 02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,600 they could run over and be all our pre-quick two. 1504 02:09:04,620 --> 02:09:06,700 All right. Judge, are you okay with that? 1505 02:09:06,700 --> 02:09:12,120 I don't cost this anything, okay? 1506 02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:13,460 All right, what else? 1507 02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:25,150 I mean, ultimately, my question still stands. 1508 02:09:25,450 --> 02:09:31,030 I think it's really up to the court, at this point, say if there's anything else 1509 02:09:31,850 --> 02:09:37,030 to address about this year's budget for the upcoming fiscal year. 1510 02:09:39,660 --> 02:09:49,800 Is there a way to move that 6.1 down? Is there anything that you see that you'd make a 1511 02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:56,280 recommendation to the court that you could take something out, maybe there's too much 1512 02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,960 If you don't lie to Adam, there's something more... 1513 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,540 I'm not thinking about this. 1514 02:10:04,540 --> 02:10:04,560 Well, 1515 02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:15,100 the only thing that I can think of that will move the needle in some 1516 02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:19,940 appreciative way is we 1517 02:10:27,650 --> 02:10:37,730 added $1.8 million to the line item. We also took, because the original 1518 02:10:37,730 --> 02:10:44,630 presentation was going to be for there to be a Haskell contract because it was, it really 1519 02:10:44,630 --> 02:10:51,130 operated differently than all of our daily rate housing. And so to kind of fit that 1520 02:10:51,130 --> 02:10:57,590 into the budget, we added the 1.8 million, which is the annualized amount for the Haskell 1521 02:10:57,590 --> 02:11:05,150 contract and the judge and I discussed reducing that daily rate line from the 1.2 million 1522 02:11:05,150 --> 02:11:12,330 down to about 500,000, because the thought would be that they would probably still need some 1523 02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:23,030 housing outside of Haskell, but where my issue is, I don't know necessarily how much, because 1524 02:11:23,030 --> 02:11:31,390 it varies so much. Because the year before we were looking at almost a million dollars of housing 1525 02:11:31,390 --> 02:12:00,730 And, you know, this year or today without the Haskell contract were around 500,000, so you would think that with 50 additional people in Haskell, you wouldn't need the entire amount, which is why we reduced it from 1.2 million to about 500,000, there could be an opportunity to reduce this line item some, because we won't need all of those contracts. 1526 02:12:03,470 --> 02:12:18,990 But it's hard to give you a what will our future prisoner demands needs be, because it just fluctuates so much. 1527 02:12:19,470 --> 02:12:29,150 And so I could say that we could move maybe maybe another 100 or 200,000 out of this line. 1528 02:12:29,150 --> 02:12:37,330 I don't know, that would, that would, you know, for every 80, 85,000 dollars you take out 1529 02:12:37,330 --> 02:12:46,790 you're looking at about a, you know, a 0.1% roughly, that's a ballpark figure. 1530 02:12:48,090 --> 02:12:50,050 So if you, you know, you could take, 1531 02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:56,120 if you took 100,000 out of this, you could take 0.1% 1532 02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:57,140 out of that increase. 1533 02:12:57,140 --> 02:13:07,920 and if you took 200, he'd really take about like 0.2, 2, 2, 3 somewhere in that range. 1534 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,680 But we could be at 6% or 5%. 1535 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:15,460 Yeah, you could be about 6% to 5.9 depending if you took it. 1536 02:13:16,060 --> 02:13:17,480 But it's a risk. 1537 02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:25,880 I can't tell you for certain that even if we move 50 people, I don't know sure. 1538 02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:31,340 if you could even at this point talk, not from dollar figure, but just from numbers, how 1539 02:13:31,340 --> 02:13:38,120 many people you need above 50 people on a monthly basis, because I know it fluctuates 1540 02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:40,440 with, you know, with the winner and with the summer. 1541 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:49,880 But that's in terms of something that is going to have an appreciable impact on the budget. 1542 02:13:49,880 --> 02:14:02,940 And this number was a sliding scale move by the judge and meeting to facilitate the 1543 02:14:02,940 --> 02:14:06,500 Haskell contract and offset a line item to get us to this number. 1544 02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:09,580 I can't guarantee you that we'll spend all of it. 1545 02:14:09,740 --> 02:14:14,260 We'll spend at least 1.8 million if we keep the Haskell contract and all 50 people. 1546 02:14:14,260 --> 02:14:26,320 But there's somewhere about $500,000 in there that is for additional housing that we may not need. 1547 02:14:27,380 --> 02:14:34,520 And that could be $200,000 we need, it could be $300,000 we need. 1548 02:14:35,540 --> 02:14:42,600 And that would be a question that, again, I'm kind of saying the same thing over and over. 1549 02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:47,180 But it's a variable I can't give you at this point in time and August. 1550 02:14:49,060 --> 02:14:51,020 500,000 is a cushion. 1551 02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:59,980 You could push it down to 300,000 and see what we need to do next year with. 1552 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:17,460 With a budget amendment or something like that, if we, if we have to. But that if, if you're asking me, what line item, this is, this is the one because it's, it's, it's, it's got a bunch of, it's got some estimates that we, that we put together. 1553 02:15:18,260 --> 02:15:28,000 Okay, so for the 6.1 tax increase, and what, what's your, what's the medium value home property that you, you got the sheet you put out? 1554 02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:33,460 What you mean idea what that number is is a 200,000 in what the tax increases for a 1555 02:15:33,460 --> 02:15:34,320 200,000 dollar. 1556 02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:45,460 So for the median home value, the median home value is 154,889 dollars and that comes from 1557 02:15:50,710 --> 02:16:08,190 The annualized increase for the median home value this year would be at a 6.1 percent effective increase would be $55 and 73 cents annually. 1558 02:16:08,190 --> 02:16:09,050 And 1559 02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:26,160 so, if you're looking at somebody's escrow, like just to put it into, if someone's making a monthly mortgage and they have to pay their property tax in the escrow, 1560 02:16:27,940 --> 02:16:40,150 at that value, the monthly increase, attributable to Potter County's portion of the property taxes would be $4.64 per year. 1561 02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:51,290 for months because it's 5573 anyway okay that's on 154,000 I'll have 154,889 because 1562 02:16:51,290 --> 02:16:57,970 that is the that is the the median home value in Potter County. 1563 02:17:03,710 --> 02:17:03,870 Sierra 1564 02:17:03,870 --> 02:17:08,250 can I see one more question are you planning on since we're doing the high school 1565 02:17:08,250 --> 02:17:11,690 contract are you planning on keeping the contracts with the estimate and 1566 02:17:11,690 --> 02:17:13,810 in everybody too. 1567 02:17:17,390 --> 02:17:20,950 We're not going to do a way with them, but we don't have to pay for anything. 1568 02:17:22,550 --> 02:17:27,470 We would try to feel as many as those beds in the hospital as possible. 1569 02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:38,710 We would like to use that for our TDC ones, because once we get them there, they take them on to TDC. 1570 02:17:38,710 --> 02:17:40,950 I don't know how to worry about that. 1571 02:17:41,270 --> 02:17:42,930 Now, I didn't look to see what the number was, 1572 02:17:43,070 --> 02:17:45,190 but it was like 36 last week 1573 02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:46,770 that we had that were paper ready, 1574 02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:48,810 but we have another 67 million. 1575 02:17:49,490 --> 02:17:49,770 So. 1576 02:17:49,770 --> 02:17:52,270 Well, what is the useful weight champion to take them? 1577 02:17:52,370 --> 02:17:52,750 Come get them. 1578 02:17:53,710 --> 02:17:55,370 Well, I have 45 days to come pick them up. 1579 02:17:55,370 --> 02:17:55,890 Or five days. 1580 02:17:56,650 --> 02:17:57,670 They're pretty good about that. 1581 02:17:57,670 --> 02:17:57,990 Okay. 1582 02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:58,670 Move them out. 1583 02:17:59,170 --> 02:18:00,870 But we're the hub for their paint handle. 1584 02:18:01,090 --> 02:18:01,290 Let's see now. 1585 02:18:03,010 --> 02:18:03,370 Okay. 1586 02:18:05,470 --> 02:18:06,270 Thank you. 1587 02:18:15,470 --> 02:18:16,790 Anybody else have anything else? 1588 02:18:20,390 --> 02:18:22,190 So, Brandon, what do you want to do? 1589 02:18:25,250 --> 02:18:27,830 We're putting everything together in heaven at the meeting. 1590 02:18:28,490 --> 02:18:29,570 Say that one more time? 1591 02:18:29,630 --> 02:18:29,890 One more time? 1592 02:18:29,890 --> 02:18:29,910 One more time? 1593 02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:30,050 One more time? 1594 02:18:31,150 --> 02:18:31,430 One more time? 1595 02:18:35,370 --> 02:18:36,650 Anyone do it today? 1596 02:18:37,430 --> 02:18:38,210 Do it all today? 1597 02:18:39,490 --> 02:18:45,710 Well, I mean, the traditional route that we do is, again, the road map that 1598 02:18:45,710 --> 02:18:50,230 be historically, we've voted to adopt the budget at this meeting. 1599 02:18:50,230 --> 02:18:58,650 If the court is ready to, unless the court is ready to make any other changes or wants to 1600 02:18:58,650 --> 02:19:06,550 consider anything, I mean, the only other thing that I would say in Commissioner Coffee, you brought this up, 1601 02:19:06,610 --> 02:19:14,470 but the last meeting, you know, there's some cleanup costs that are not included in this budget, 1602 02:19:14,690 --> 02:19:16,670 and they're not included in last year's budget. 1603 02:19:16,670 --> 02:19:25,150 I don't know if we even have specifications yet of any idea of what that cost. 1604 02:19:26,490 --> 02:19:34,230 If we're looking at a large number, that would need to come out of the county contingency. 1605 02:19:34,570 --> 02:19:43,830 My suggestion or not contingency, but we have a cleanup line item already prepared to take care 1606 02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:49,690 Anything that would come up and that would just need to come out of fun balance because it's a one-time emergency expenditure 1607 02:19:50,810 --> 02:19:53,490 You wouldn't want to affect the tax rate on that 1608 02:19:56,350 --> 02:19:56,830 Okay 1609 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,840 But the problem with that is, I still don't have any idea what that is going to cost. 1610 02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:15,560 We, I can't make any movement into that 911 deadline because that's where we're going to have all the piles that are going to be removed. 1611 02:20:15,940 --> 02:20:21,480 That's when our deadline is. So I can't even have anybody give us an estimate until that deadline comes and goes. 1612 02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:31,100 So we know, and OEMs can go mark the pile from there we can move forward, but I can't have any movement on that to after that deadline comes and goes. 1613 02:20:33,430 --> 02:20:40,270 So if we were to go off the 6.1 budget today, we still have money in front balance. 1614 02:20:40,970 --> 02:20:44,150 Yeah, but you have to have it on a line item to spend, it does my point. 1615 02:20:44,690 --> 02:20:53,010 And so just because you have, you know, you have $45 million left at the end of the year, you can't spend any of it if you don't have a appropriated line item. 1616 02:20:53,010 --> 02:21:00,350 And so my suggestion is before we adopt the budget that we have some kind of number there 1617 02:21:00,350 --> 02:21:07,270 because once you look that in, I mean, I'm just saying if clean up cost $1,000,000 and you ask me 1618 02:21:07,270 --> 02:21:12,110 where it's going to come from, I'm not going to be able to tell, I'm not going to be able to pull 1619 02:21:12,110 --> 02:21:16,630 that number out of thin air because our county contingency, you need a motion to prove the 1620 02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:45,130 It would need to be an additional line item to, I would say, you know, that you need a motion for a certain amount of money to cover some clean up out in the county related to the stinking fire, and it would be a new line item that would be created, and you need to do it now, not after the budget is adopted. 1621 02:21:45,130 --> 02:21:49,810 So, what would you propose $500,000 or a million? 1622 02:21:50,450 --> 02:21:56,850 I would propose, because it's going to come out of fun balance anyways, that you just put a million dollars there. 1623 02:21:58,510 --> 02:22:01,410 And if you don't spend it, you don't spend it. 1624 02:22:01,850 --> 02:22:03,710 It doesn't affect your tax rate calculation. 1625 02:22:04,310 --> 02:22:11,450 It literally just allows you to pull into your savings for what you need. 1626 02:22:13,130 --> 02:22:19,230 I guess my only concern is that if it ends up even being more than that, I mean, I know 1627 02:22:19,910 --> 02:22:26,290 we've, there's, there are concerns about some, some hazmat material, and there's what could 1628 02:22:26,290 --> 02:22:31,310 drive the price up on that, and that's why I was, I was hopeful by this meeting, we would 1629 02:22:31,310 --> 02:22:38,610 have some kind of, one of my trying to say, all part figure, estimate. 1630 02:22:42,400 --> 02:22:51,640 And so that's the only other, I guess, big item is that, well, you know, if we're going to 1631 02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:58,140 have to be responsible for this, we really do need some kind of a line item to take care 1632 02:22:58,140 --> 02:23:05,000 the cleanup out of flood balance and we need that in the budget before you adopt it. 1633 02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:08,460 Does your work that motion? 1634 02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:08,880 Okay. 1635 02:23:09,620 --> 02:23:12,920 I mean, we take a million dollars out of the fund balance and add it to a line out of 1636 02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:16,420 the budget for this year for cleanup for the station fire. 1637 02:23:17,140 --> 02:23:17,460 Second. 1638 02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:23,960 Have a motion and a second on favoration and on post that passes five to zero. 1639 02:23:23,960 --> 02:23:30,080 The action, do you think there's any way that, because of the ongoing investigation 1640 02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:35,940 on this, that the city may be not the best I'm talking about, this was not I'm happy 1641 02:23:35,940 --> 02:23:41,700 with you saying we'll talk about later, but for us to recover any of these funds, obviously 1642 02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:43,320 the... 1643 02:23:44,220 --> 02:23:49,680 It's a possibility, but it'll just be speculating at this point, and it is probably something 1644 02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:54,480 better if there's a claim that we take that up in executive session. 1645 02:24:01,720 --> 02:24:07,020 So right now, we have the proposed budget to keep the ball moving forward. 1646 02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:10,000 We need to adopt it today, I think that's Brandon's goal. 1647 02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:16,020 So if we can either vote on it or if there are other changes that the court wants to discuss, 1648 02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:18,620 we can take those out. 1649 02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:31,230 Do you have a motion for it to accept the proposed budget 6.1? 1650 02:24:32,350 --> 02:24:32,690 Correct. 1651 02:24:33,110 --> 02:24:38,610 The number the budget at amount would be 94 million 901-273. 1652 02:24:40,820 --> 02:24:41,600 To that again. 1653 02:24:42,180 --> 02:24:45,100 94 million 901-273. 1654 02:24:58,250 --> 02:24:59,110 That's your motion duration. 1655 02:25:06,260 --> 02:25:12,100 I'm moved there. We accept the budget. 94 million, not a one, two, 73. 1656 02:25:14,620 --> 02:25:20,940 So, have a motion and a second. All in favor. Raise your hand. 1657 02:25:22,300 --> 02:25:23,200 SS5-0. 1658 02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:25,420 All right. 1659 02:25:27,990 --> 02:25:44,670 The second item would be to propose a property tax rate. Again, we're going to have 1660 02:25:55,540 --> 02:25:59,260 I would like you to propose a M&O rate. 1661 02:26:00,300 --> 02:26:03,460 I'm going to ask you to propose three numbers. 1662 02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:14,520 Maintenance and operations rate of 5.5, 8.5, 9.0. 1663 02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:19,280 So that again, 4.585. 1664 02:26:19,880 --> 02:26:20,200 90. 1665 02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:27,670 A debt service rate of 0.03. 1666 02:26:28,990 --> 02:26:30,440 6.7.8. 1667 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:46,920 4.0. 1668 02:26:47,380 --> 02:26:50,600 0.585.90. 1669 02:26:56,510 --> 02:26:57,370 You should 9.0. 1670 02:26:58,050 --> 02:26:58,610 Yes, sir. 1671 02:26:59,470 --> 02:27:04,190 And then the total tax rate is just the sum of those two. 1672 02:27:04,190 --> 02:27:08,690 and it's 0.6226-8. 1673 02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:22,380 Good job, I need a motion of that. 1674 02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:28,720 I'm moved to approve of the proposed maintenance rate at 0.58593. 1675 02:27:29,380 --> 02:27:32,980 In an old rate at 0.58590, 1676 02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:36,900 desk service rate at 0.03678. 1677 02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:41,400 For effective tax rate at 0.62628. 1678 02:27:42,440 --> 02:27:44,760 Correction, that's 0.62268. 1679 02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:45,420 One more time. 1680 02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:47,600 Six, two, two, six, eight. 1681 02:27:47,900 --> 02:27:48,760 Oh, sorry. 1682 02:27:50,200 --> 02:27:52,660 Six, two, two, six, eight. 1683 02:27:52,660 --> 02:27:53,140 That's right. 1684 02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:02,900 And I just want to make sure that we got this for the record. 1685 02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:07,580 So your motionless to approve the MNO at 0.58590, 1686 02:28:08,500 --> 02:28:13,580 debt service 0.03670 for a total tax rate of 0.62268. 1687 02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:15,180 Is that correct? 1688 02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:15,740 Correct. 1689 02:28:15,740 --> 02:28:18,280 Okay. Did you want to know? 1690 02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:21,220 Is that the, oh yeah? 1691 02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:21,920 Yeah, I got the imminent. 1692 02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:26,940 Okay. Have a motion. Do I have a second? 1693 02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:28,480 Second? 1694 02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:31,460 Have a motion. Second? All in favor. 1695 02:28:31,900 --> 02:28:32,400 Raise your hand. 1696 02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:35,640 Move in that passes. 1697 02:28:37,180 --> 02:28:37,480 Okay. 1698 02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:44,760 The next thing that we have to do is just announce that we have to set the 1699 02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:55,840 date time in place for the public hearing on the tax rate, the tax increase, and then set the date time in place for the vote on the tax rate. 1700 02:28:58,300 --> 02:29:01,680 And we typically both do these at the same meeting. 1701 02:29:02,580 --> 02:29:09,160 The, that would be September 14th official report at 9 a.m. 1702 02:29:09,760 --> 02:29:19,340 If you do not vote on, at this, at the public hearing that we hope to have the tax rate, 1703 02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:23,580 we would have to re-post the meeting. 1704 02:29:25,500 --> 02:29:26,420 So just be aware. 1705 02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:27,500 Okay. 1706 02:29:36,130 --> 02:29:38,230 Is there anything else we need to do today, Brandon? 1707 02:29:40,190 --> 02:29:42,390 Nope, that's all I had. 1708 02:29:47,530 --> 02:29:48,950 So if we're done, we're done. 1709 02:29:50,750 --> 02:29:52,310 We are adjourned.