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[0:03] We'll have 30 more seconds. We'll keep talking.
[0:12] Okay,
[0:19] it is 9 o'clock. On Monday, August of 24th, 2020, six o'clock, all the part of the County Commissioner's court to order.
[0:27] Today, we have Allen Copeland, from the sinful Baptist, we'll do our invocation.
[0:30] People please stand for that. We're very, very standing for the pledges.
[0:38] Father, we love you today, and thank you all for your love and goodness to us.
[0:42] Thank you for Jesus.
[0:43] He shed blood that paid for our salvation, and I pray today, Lord, that you would take control
[0:48] of this courtroom, and your blessed Holy Spirit guide and direct each person, it's thought,
[0:54] each action, and Lord may you be honored, glorified, and all that we do, and say, in Christ
[1:00] name I pray.
[1:01] I
[1:04] play those reasons to do the five and United States of America.
[1:09] And you see everybody who are willing to stay in this one mission.
[1:13] I'm not indivisible with the opportunity to just as far off.
[1:18] I'm indivisible with the United States of America.
[1:21] I'm indivisible with the United States of America.
[1:23] I'm indivisible with the United States of America.
[1:25] I'm indivisible with the United States
[1:32] of America.
[1:32] Thank you everybody.
[1:34] Next up on the agenda is the recognition of minutes from the August of 10th
[1:38] and all of us the 12 auto county commissioners court.
[1:42] So, any changes to that, if not, so recognize.
[1:49] Number four, budget.
[1:50] I mean, must have considered our next opponent, budget,
[1:52] and then request for fiscal year 25 of these six.
[1:57] Yes, Judge.
[1:58] This just has to do with the properties walk.
[2:00] There were some closing costs that needed to be considered.
[2:05] This just allocates the funds to allow the closing costs.
[2:10] Any questions for Brandon?
[2:13] I need a motion,
[2:18] please.
[2:20] Have a motion in a second.
[2:21] All in favor, raise your hand.
[2:24] I'll go and send some of that.
[2:27] Number five vouchers to consider an act upon the approval
[2:30] of the vouchers is presented by the County Office.
[2:32] There's office check numbers 2, 2, 3, 4, 4,
[2:35] through 223,680 in our transfers to 534,32540 in a amount of 4,387,824 and 33 cents.
[2:48] I don't need a motion in a second to just go.
[2:58] Have a motion in a second. Any questions or comments?
[3:02] Okay, all in the paper, there's writing, and that passes, five, zero.
[3:09] Number six, insurance, and then you source duty, you have anything to do with it?
[3:17] Do you need to do it?
[3:20] I have that answer more than that is to you.
[3:22] Okay, I need a question.
[3:24] Anybody have any questions for duty?
[3:26] All right.
[3:27] We're working now.
[3:28] Thank you, ma'am.
[3:30] Number seven treasures, not smoothly before, good
[3:37] morning.
[3:39] Our general fund, as of July 31st,
[3:42] Emerald National Bank, had 3,900, 1,962 dollars and 63 cents,
[3:48] earning 3.89 percent.
[3:51] Logic had 2,320,049 dollars and 44 cents, earning 3.79 percent.
[3:58] Texas Class at 13 million, 799,386 dollars in 29 cents, earning 3.78 percent.
[4:07] Textful Prime had 14 million, 733,793,793,793,818 percent, and multivate securities had 20 million,
[4:19] 225,000 for a general fundamental of 54,890,192 dollars in the living sense.
[4:28] You may have any questions for Brooke.
[4:32] Thank you.
[4:32] Thank you, Brooke.
[4:34] So, we're going to have some more.
[4:36] Number eight, a discussion and possible action-related relative to eight, a tax income that
[4:43] can bring investments on number two.
[4:46] To receive a report and discuss the current east gateway, tier number two goals, boundary and
[4:51] acreage and discuss recent tiers two more directions to explore opportunities to increase the
[4:56] don't continue to go on city council approval as a layout budget.
[5:00] After 311 of the Texas tax point.
[5:03] Good morning, George. Good afternoon.
[5:09] That's okay.
[5:10] Drew Brassfield, Assistant Director of Planning for the City of Emerald,
[5:13] I appreciate the opportunity to be here and discuss
[5:15] with you the current research we are doing on the possibility of
[5:21] expanding the tears to the East Gateway tax increment
[5:24] that reinvestment is on the boundary.
[5:27] While we get the presentation up, I'll go ahead and continue on.
[5:33] This zone was created in 2016 by Ordinance 762, and then there was a small boundary expansion
[5:43] done back in 2020.
[5:46] This zone's goals are to relocate, redeveloped the big text and original goals were and
[5:53] add new retail and entertainment venues and RV park and several other things.
[5:57] Currently, the zone is bounded on the north side by east-third avenue on the east side by
[6:05] lakeside avenue on the south end and at a southernmost point in the south east-34th.
[6:11] And on the western side, ironically,
[6:17] is the eastern street.
[6:24] So the current zone is a mix of vacant undeveloped land retail.
[6:29] There's some hospitality and limited residential development.
[6:32] It's currently comprised by almost 1,400 acres and about 3,4 of that is undeveloped vacant land at this point.
[6:43] In 2025, the most recent tax year, the value of this zone was a little over 117 million, which was a 77.6 million increase over its 2016 value.
[6:55] On the positive side, we do have the big tax and state grants out there, several other
[7:00] anchor businesses, FedEx, Excel energy, the premier truck group, and several other
[7:05] things.
[7:06] But on the downside, we have numerous vacant tracks, closed businesses, blighted conditions,
[7:12] poor drainage, and undersized and lacking infrastructure.
[7:15] Those being the two biggest of the negatives.
[7:18] There's currently four outstanding or active commitments, the longest of these still remaining
[7:26] as nine years.
[7:29] And why are we looking at an expansion or the possibility of an expansion towards the end
[7:35] of 2025?
[7:35] We had several prospective developers approach the city interested in developing in this
[7:43] as part of AMROLO, primarily in the area of Airport Boulevard in I-40.
[7:50] Most of us have probably stopped at least once at the new Bucky's there, but as it should
[7:57] be development, it gets more development.
[8:00] So with Bucky's coming in, there's a lot of interest in developing around that area.
[8:05] And so because of those, we went to the terrorist board to discuss the possibility that
[8:14] of doing an expansion, and the direction from the board was to examine several different boundaries.
[8:23] So we went with this to kind of went back to the drawing board to look at what all is in this area.
[8:31] I know this map is a little hard to see because it contains a whole lot of information,
[8:35] but the red hashmarked areas, what the current zone is, the blue and the tan areas are the parcels
[8:43] that we are examining as potential to add to this zone. The east boundary on this would go all the way
[8:53] out to the east city limits. The north side would still remain southeast, third and the county line would
[9:00] the the bottom the southern boundary of this expansion research. So all in all we're looking
[9:08] at 211 parcels. So the potential if all of them were added would be almost 2100 more acres
[9:15] to the existing zone. For the parcels that we are examining the 2018 value of these parcels was
[9:24] almost 69 million and their 25 value was a little over 16 million.
[9:30] So there's been about a 47.8 million increase in that time frame between 2018 to 2025.
[9:39] There are three large projects that have occurred in this area.
[9:44] The utility trailer of Texas location, the road-ranger travel center and of course
[9:54] research studio. Um, of these parcels, uh, broken them down into...
[10:00] What their values, how we group those, we've got 38 of them that had negative or completely flat line growth during that time period, and I didn't want to point out to that part of county's current revenue off of the 211 parcels being researched is currently at 689,000 a year as of 2020.
[10:23] five. So if these parcels were to be added to the Tears Boundary,
[10:28] Potter County would still continue to collect that revenue based off of those parcels.
[10:33] Anything above and beyond that, that's part of that incremental growth,
[10:36] that portion would go only that portion would go into the tip,
[10:40] the tax increment front.
[10:43] And so, in conclusion, each parcel is being examined for its potential growth.
[10:50] Like I said, we have a lot of issues with utilities, water and sewer and drainage.
[10:58] The infrastructure extensions could be reimbursed by the tiers to the city, if the city
[11:07] you know, opted to go in and extend those utilities to that area.
[11:12] It would also aid in projects where interest has been expressed, it's already been expressed,
[11:17] It's not pure speculation at this point.
[11:23] We think that this area has a lot of potential for growth.
[11:26] It's become very stagnant on that end of I-40 and we have been going and talking to
[11:33] all the different taxing entities and I still have a presentation that I'll be giving tomorrow
[11:38] to the Emerald College Board of Regents.
[11:40] And so with that, I would welcome any feedback discussion on it.
[11:52] Well, I think it's a wonderful idea.
[11:55] So the city is going to vote on this council.
[11:58] Eventually, that's the plan.
[12:01] We will take it to the city council for a new ordinance to expand the boundary and then we would
[12:08] come back to each of the taxing entities to request a participation agreement similar to what
[12:13] was done in the past.
[12:15] So how long we tied to this, this Tiff?
[12:18] So in this expansion, we are not looking
[12:20] to extend any of the time the zone ends in 20, 46, I believe.
[12:32] When do you just say, what year was that?
[12:34] In your latest 20, 46, I could be.
[12:39] They got that, my nose.
[12:43] With the rail on this kind of hard to keep tracks sometimes.
[12:45] That's you?
[12:46] This little bit of a weird change.
[12:48] Well, how long does the tears of one that was over the last four?
[12:53] Really, that one goes till 2056.
[12:59] Can you give us an example or two of what has already been done with the tears too, like
[13:04] maybe the Whittaker piping where they added the pipeline underneath the Whittaker, there are
[13:09] operatives and things like that?
[13:11] Yes, sir.
[13:11] So the Tears 2 has reimbursed the city for, like you mentioned, Mr. Shafer, the water line
[13:20] extension that I believe went under I-40.
[13:23] And again, going back to the four commitments, there's a hotel, the home-to-sweets, premier
[13:31] truck group, and then there's a couple of two and totems that have been incentivized
[13:35] this area.
[13:39] I don't know prior to my arrival what smaller projects have been done. We did
[13:44] just recently incentivize, partially, the slug bug, roadside attraction for Route 66 out
[13:53] in that area as well. The work will look in the park line and landscaping, that kind of thing.
[13:58] What do you anticipate the cost of the council and the idea of the figure?
[14:03] The cost to the county?
[14:04] There would be no cost to the county, no sir.
[14:08] Now, the county, all the taxing entities would continue to collect the revenue that you're currently collecting.
[14:15] Anything above and beyond that would then be allocated to the tax increment fund to be reinvested back into that zone.
[14:24] We're right now that tears won't, we're losing about a million dollars in tears too, we're losing about 500,000, is that correct?
[14:37] Losing money in what way?
[14:39] Well, we're not getting those tax dollars.
[14:41] We're not getting the retain those tax dollars.
[14:44] We're not trying to use this cost in us a million five a year for both these bull tears won and tears too.
[14:54] I understand, it's a good thing for our area.
[14:56] I don't know how to guess that. I'm just saying that.
[15:00] As we move forward today, we've got a large tax increase coming, and so I just think we need to be mindful of that, and I hope that y'all will be too, and so it's a great part of our county. This is the only way we can fund our county through tax dollars.
[15:17] to see as other modes to do that, we do not.
[15:21] And so it's a difficult balance for the county
[15:24] and taxpayers on these adventures.
[15:34] I would say that it's a deferment on the collection
[15:39] of any of the incremental increase to any of those parcels
[15:43] in that zone, rather than losing it,
[15:45] you're deferring taking that revenue
[15:48] in to a later date.
[15:50] Well, that probably wasn't a good word, but I'll just
[15:53] talking about, as in today's dollars,
[15:56] and what we're looking at needing to do,
[16:00] I just, I just think we need to be mindful of that,
[16:03] and so with that, I'd ask that you do the same,
[16:07] and I know you're necessarily just basically
[16:10] making a statement that we're losing about a million,
[16:14] five and tax dollars each year.
[16:23] Thank you, Tweet.
[16:25] Is there anything we don't need to take action on this?
[16:27] This was strictly for discussion and feedback.
[16:31] Thanks, Tweet.
[16:32] Thank you, Tweet.
[16:33] Okay, thank you, sir.
[16:36] Okay, number eight, B elections to consider.
[16:38] Yes.
[16:39] I'd ask if you could skip to eight K.
[16:42] We did.
[16:43] Thank you for the reminder.
[16:46] Eight K fiscal year 2025 all that.
[16:48] I'm going to recognize that fiscal year 25 audit reports issued by Hankens in East
[16:54] App.
[16:56] I've got on the other way back up right here.
[16:59] Good morning.
[17:01] Good morning.
[17:02] Honorable County Judge Commissioners.
[17:05] Thank you for the opportunity for serving poor county.
[17:13] My name is Hanzan Tana, I'm an audit director of the firm Hankin Sista.
[17:23] So basically we're going to go over the annual Comprehensive Financial Report and a
[17:33] single audit report.
[17:34] both of those you should have a copy this morning, if we go to page one of the financial
[17:48] report,
[17:54] you would see the independent auditors report, which is the only piece of this report
[17:59] that belongs solely to the auditor, you would see an modified or clean opinion, that means
[18:09] that the figures included in this financial report are materially correct, and there were
[18:17] no significant deviations at all. The only new item in the report would be in that very
[18:29] page one, the fourth paragraph, it starts with the emphasis of the matter, changing accounting
[18:37] principle, pertaining to compensated absences that was a new gas v or governmental accounting
[18:46] standard board statement number 101, which require a prior period adjusting entry,
[18:59] but
[19:00] our opinion was not modified as to this respect. That gasping 101, what is faming and that
[19:11] and all across the nation, to all governmental entities, it aims to lower the accrued compensation
[19:22] amounts or liabilities included in the statement of net position to a more precise and accurate
[19:30] number.
[19:32] That's basically what happened.
[19:35] If the rest of the report contains the very same sections as in prior year, it is comprised of the management discussion on analysis or the MDNA, which is basically a comparison of prior year with the...
[20:00] Currently, in this case, 2024 and 2025, after the MDNA, the basic financial statements, which are comprised of the government
[20:11] why and the governmental funds statements.
[20:18] After the governmental funds, the reporting includes the
[20:24] territory phones and the fetishary phones. The next section would be the notes to the financial
[20:33] statements. And after the notes, the reporting includes, as in prior year, the required
[20:42] supplementary information as required.
[20:48] If we go to page 7 of the MDNA,
[21:04] you would see the
[21:07] components of the net position which includes the revenues and the expenses of the county,
[21:16] you would see that there was an increase in total revenues of approximately $2 million,
[21:21] which responds to a sliding increase in the property and the other taxes.
[21:32] The expenses show an increase of approximately 3.7 million dollars from 91,581,000
[21:46] in 24 to 95 million to 86 in 25 and that increased response to the net effect of ups and downs
[21:58] between those different categories.
[22:04] But we have to point out that it looks quite similar to the
[22:11] increase in the judicial expenses line item, which increased by 3.7 million dollars.
[22:20] Those increases in the judicial and the other categories were risk or respond to increases
[22:31] in salaries expenses incurred during the year.
[22:40] So at the bottom, you would see that the net position from 2024 increase approximately by 3.8 million to 160 million to 28,000 by the end of fiscal year 25.
[23:02] If you could please turn back to page 6.
[23:11] The most significant changes when we look at the assets and liabilities would be the line
[23:21] labeled net pension and open liabilities.
[23:25] You would see a significant decrease of 7.1 or 7.2 million dollars and that response to a better
[23:35] performance of the amounts invested in such in such line and also as per the amounts
[23:46] determined by the actual report of the TEC, the IRS. So that decrease, it's a positive
[23:56] various for the county, which basically you would see that the total net position is
[24:10] maintain and it is pretty solid for the year ended of September 30th of 2025. At $616 million.
[24:41] You could please turn to page 14 to the statement of activities that's part of the
[24:49] Over month wide statements you would see at the very bottom the beginning net position
[25:00] At October 1st, that would be the closing net position of fiscal year 24, and you will see a line that states
[25:09] restatement, that restatement of 1.2 million, which is also positive. It is comprised of both the prior
[25:24] period adjustment for the compensated absences and change in the estimate of the depreciation
[25:34] expense for the year with resulted in that positive increase of the net position at Iran.
[25:45] The explanation for that and that would be the only addition to the notes to the financial
[25:53] statements if you could please turn to page 47 in
[26:06] page 47 you would see the note on the
[26:08] restamen and the explanation for the amounts that I have just mentioned. That will be the
[26:19] only part of the notes to the financial statements that would be new this year.
[26:28] The rest of the
[26:31] financial report is pretty much the same as in fiscal year 24,
[26:42] the required schedules for the pension on OPEP,
[26:45] the comparisons between budget and actual,
[26:51] the combining statements for the non-major governmental funds,
[26:58] And another
[27:05] change from prior year would be the fiduciary funds if we could please turn
[27:19] to
[27:22] page
[27:30] 23, page 23, you would see that the county received $5 million on behalf of the CDM
[27:57] fiduciary funds for the year.
[28:03] Any questions so far, regards to the information presented
[28:09] in the report,
[28:16] if we could please then go to the single audit report.
[28:30] The single audit report
[28:32] includes two reports, one report deals with what we call ICFR, internal controls over financial
[28:41] reporting and the second report deals with the compliance with major programs.
[28:48] Both reports, as you can see, are on modify those opinions, are also clean.
[28:57] The findings that were coming in from prior year were addressed and eliminated from the report.
[29:06] As they were adequately taken care of during the year, and it's at the mid-2025.
[29:17] And just to remind you, that just happened to be back in the 2022-23 audit,
[29:30] in the purchasing
[29:31] departments documentation for the zero to 50,000 range, the prior purchasing agents requirements
[29:48] for how to handle multiple bids and to document that was an adequate for what we needed
[29:57] to do to make sure that we could.
[30:00] Show that we were meeting our requirements underneath the purchasing policy of getting multiple bids from that $10,000 to $50,000 rain.
[30:11] Allison, wholesale change the way that happened and we haven't had a single finding since that was implemented.
[30:20] And so it's certainly not a, I would say, a kudos on Madison's part of making the changes
[30:28] in her, in the department, you know, these were policies that were in place long before
[30:33] she got there.
[30:39] Thank you.
[30:42] In addition,
[30:44] the singular report includes two separate schedules, one for the federal
[30:50] works and the second one for the state awards, the federal awards show one increase from
[30:58] prior year of approximately $1.8 million and that's basically the expenditures for the
[31:07] upon funds. And on page 7, the expenditures for state awards also increased by approximately
[31:21] $1.3 million,
[31:25] and it's basically a combination of increases in the motor vehicle, crime
[31:33] of authority and the public defender, which in both of those show a combined increase of
[31:43] 1.1 million dollars from fiscal year 24.
[31:54] You could see in page
[31:59] 11 of the report that in the schedule of previous findings and
[32:05] question cost, you would see that both of those previous findings appear as corrected and
[32:14] now out of the report.
[32:20] So any questions with regards to the singularary report
[32:30] that would be
[32:33] the end of my presentation this morning for the financial results of poor county?
[32:41] Again, thank you for the opportunity of starting the county,
[32:46] and how about a great
[32:50] result?
[32:51] Okay.
[32:51] Thank you, sir.
[32:52] Appreciate you being here.
[32:58] Number eight, be elections to consider and approve the following for the November 3rd,
[33:03] 2026 general election, order reporting election officials and rate of pay in order
[33:08] reporting officers for simple accounting situation.
[33:12] The morning, Christy.
[33:12] Good morning.
[33:14] So we have, first, we have our order of pointing
[33:17] election officials.
[33:21] We have got these, we've got these lists from our
[33:24] party chairs.
[33:26] And they both approved all of these workers.
[33:29] And then if you'll see on your third page,
[33:32] we also have backup judges listed here.
[33:38] case we did emergency replacements. We have central accounting
[33:41] station judges and we have early voting ballot board judges here and this
[33:45] is something that we do every couple years and it will include this
[33:51] election coming up.
[33:56] You have any questions?
[34:00] Questions for Christie? Okay and then the next one we have will be the order
[34:07] appointing officers for the central accounting station and you do notice that I
[34:12] may be this morning your order of election.
[34:14] This order of election was already signed by the judge.
[34:18] It's something that's centrally required.
[34:21] And so the judge has already signed that for this election.
[34:23] But we do have to go ahead and appoint the order
[34:27] of point the officers for central accounting session.
[34:29] And so these officers, it is myself and then other members
[34:34] of my staff.
[34:35] We always are appointed as the central accounting
[34:39] We have to go to the station officers.
[34:44] In question.
[34:46] We don't
[34:51] have to be on it.
[34:53] I know.
[34:54] I need a motion.
[34:55] I'm moved to a program that's presented.
[34:58] Thank you.
[35:00] We have a motion in a second, all in favor of raise your hand.
[35:04] Opposites on that has to stop us here.
[35:07] In number of H.C. elections to recognize early voting and election day polling locations for November 3,
[35:13] 2026 to an election.
[35:15] Okay, so for early voting for the election, we have two weeks of early voting, which includes
[35:21] week in voting. The Santa Fe building, our main location, will be open the last week of early voting
[35:27] from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and the branches will be open 8 to 5 every day, the Monday through
[35:34] Fridays, except for the last two days we're going to have those open from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m.
[35:41] that gives voters time to get off work and get their ballot cast before election day.
[35:45] And then we will have the weekend voting, the Santa Fe building will be open 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
[35:50] on that Saturday and then the branches will be open 9 to 3 and the same hour is 9 to 3
[35:56] for everyone on Sunday.
[35:59] And then on election day, we do have a change to one of our vote
[36:02] centers.
[36:04] Shaper Olheels Baptist Church decided that they did not
[36:07] want to be a part of a vote center program any longer.
[36:12] And so we looked, and if you've ever been in that area,
[36:16] you know that there's not much there.
[36:18] And so we finally were able to get a church called Behind the
[36:24] It is 2.3 miles away from Chapel Hill's Church.
[36:29] It's not ideal, but there's nothing else in that area.
[36:32] The school, we can't get in the school.
[36:34] The fire station is too small.
[36:36] So behind the shoes cabway church is what we have chose to go with.
[36:40] It's not completely ADA compliant.
[36:43] But we don't have any other options in that area.
[36:47] And they were very glad to have us.
[36:49] And so that's what we're going to go in.
[36:54] Tell me in the name again.
[36:55] Behind the Shoots Cowboy Church.
[36:57] Yes.
[36:58] Yes.
[36:59] And we will post notices on Chevrolet Hills doors so that someone shows up there, which we know they
[37:05] will.
[37:05] They'll show up there on a lecture night of vote, but there will be a notice there that they
[37:09] could go to behind the Shoots Cowboy Church.
[37:11] And then there's Willow Creek Church, which is a little over four miles away, if they chose
[37:18] to go to that also.
[37:19] Okay. All right. Any questions for Christy? Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.
[37:29] All right.
[37:29] Number eight, D. Panhandle, Otto, Burberry, Thief, Unit, Pad 2, Senior Bill 2, 2, 4,
[37:34] P. Burberry Grant. Mr. McBoy, how nice to see you again, sir.
[37:38] What do you think, buddy? So, we're in the same underground award for the S. S. B. 2,
[37:52] 4,
[38:00] The question is for Patrick.
[38:06] Who to award?
[38:07] I can offer us just an accept that a grant award from state.
[38:11] That's presented.
[38:13] The motion and the second on the favor of engineering.
[38:17] I would like to send some of that past is not zero.
[38:23] So the second one will be the puddle 50.
[38:26] Actually, the puddle theft ramp that we've had for the last 11 years.
[38:30] We were awarded $490,000,000, $115 from the NVCBA.
[38:34] for 2527.
[38:38] Any questions for Patrick?
[38:44] Have a motion and a second on that one. All in favor.
[38:51] Thank you sir.
[38:55] Number eight F website hosting services to consider an active bond.
[39:00] Approving the updated pricing plan and quote for the Potter County website hosting services
[39:04] for fiscal year 20, 728 as provided by Tech,
[39:08] C-I-R-A, Julie Smith.
[39:11] This is just the Tech Sera website
[39:13] that we currently have new new fees to go into effect.
[39:18] So those need to be included into the budget for that
[39:22] coming year.
[39:27] Was it included in the budget, Brandon?
[39:32] No, do you just need to make a vote on it today?
[39:34] Okay.
[39:35] Yeah, it's rolled into the, or normally historically it's been rolled into the IT budget.
[39:41] Okay.
[39:43] Historically, is this still?
[39:46] It might be history.
[39:47] I don't know.
[39:49] Any questions for Julie on this?
[39:51] If not, I need a motion.
[39:53] It's either that or y'all can go and look for a new website.
[39:57] Well, it's not that.
[39:58] Well, it's that you hang onto it.
[39:59] We'll show you.
[40:09] Number 8G, rule, sheriff's grant to consider, and act upon a request from the sheriff's office to a plopper, the rules, sheriff's office grants, it's in a bill 22, fiscal year 27, and minister by the Texas Comptroller's office pursuant to a recent legislation, sheriff.
[40:25] It's the same one we've had last couple of years, we've taken all that money and been able to put it into
[40:31] hours with third employees.
[40:35] Okay, it's kind of handy, isn't it?
[40:37] That's good.
[40:40] Any questions for this year?
[40:42] No, no, no.
[40:46] Second.
[40:49] Second.
[40:49] I'm motion and a second, all in favor of this year.
[40:52] I'm going to pose in that passage side to zero.
[40:57] County Clerk to consider an act of honor for giving the County Clerk's records our count.
[41:05] This is just something I have to do every year.
[41:08] We collect our records our Kathy and we've put in that letter what we do with it.
[41:14] What we do with it, what we might plan to do with it.
[41:15] We have to get some beds from different vendors.
[41:18] So we try to utilize that as the best way that we can.
[41:26] Any questions for Julie?
[41:27] The motion please.
[41:33] Move to approve this.
[41:36] Second.
[41:37] Motion in a second.
[41:39] All in favor is behind.
[41:41] A little pose that passes five to zero.
[41:45] Number eight.
[41:46] Our tier is one and tier is two.
[41:48] Adjustment to consider an act upon approving an increase in cost for tier.
[41:52] Number one in the amount of $16,945.
[41:55] The tier is number two.
[41:56] In the amount of $6,822.
[41:58] the total increase in $23,677.
[42:05] Yes, Judge.
[42:06] This came from the City of Emorollas
[42:09] other ones that collect all of the
[42:12] tiered money.
[42:16] They, when they sent the invoice earlier in the year,
[42:20] they made the calculation,
[42:24] not using the prior year.
[42:25] Tax rates as opposed to the correct adopted tax rates and so this is just a reflecting that we needed to pay a little bit more
[42:34] Based on the corrected the correct tax rates
[42:43] Any questions for Brandon on that?
[42:52] Make motion that we're prove as presented
[42:57] The motion in a second on the evaluation
[43:05] Do you think you need the information for me before we do our budget?
[43:10] Just, how do we, how do we know?
[43:12] I mean, the adjustment happens based on what the tax rate is adopted.
[43:21] So, I have a pretty good idea how close it would be prior to the adoption.
[43:33] I don't know if that answers your question, I mean, it does fluctuate based on how much
[43:40] you, how what the tax rate is, and so like our payments that I put into the budget for
[43:48] tiers one and tiers two, I calculate based on a, you know, if we're going to end up to 6.1
[43:54] effective increase. I take the prior year and then multiply at times 1.0615. That's how I got
[44:02] when it's in the budget today. If you all were to raise or lower that, I would raise or lower
[44:07] that to reflect that. It's a sliding scale and they just don't want to get adopted.
[44:15] But just be nice to somebody made an error in our favor for a change. To like we're always the ones
[44:22] that are making up the error.
[44:26] I'm agree.
[44:28] No fall for years, by the way.
[44:30] Right, and ultimately, this is money that we plan on spending,
[44:39] they just build us lower than what we plan on spending.
[44:42] So I mean, this just brings us up to where we should have been
[44:45] in the first place.
[44:50] I mean, I know some things.
[44:51] We'll try to prove this presented.
[44:54] I thought we'd love to hear that, and we'd just hear about it.
[44:57] Yeah, we'd probably hear about it.
[45:00] We already voted.
[45:07] Okay. Okay. I got you. I got that. I got it all right here. Put your hand in the air.
[45:17] Okay. So are we still okay. We're looking at the wire transfer now.
[45:23] AHA or a department F8WA to consider an iPhone allowing the treasure to issue wires to the FHA going forward.
[45:34] And so what this is is for the payments to go to the federal highway administration for the project is going on and we receive the funding from the Friends of Crossbar.
[45:46] Basically, they stopped allowing payments per their bike check, which is how we've always
[45:52] sent it in the past.
[45:54] Her, their payment instructions.
[45:57] They did advise this last week that they would take a check, but they're not going to
[46:03] amend their payment instructions.
[46:07] I would just feel more comfortable that we actually follow their payment instructions and not just
[46:12] to take something verbally over the phone, or by email, and that way we don't have.
[46:15] Potentially have a check floating around that somebody doesn't cash.
[46:22] That would be my preference on how we handle this.
[46:25] They publish how they want to be paid.
[46:29] The only two methods available are either log into a website or to send a wire.
[46:35] I would suggest that we follow their payment instructions and allow for wires.
[46:39] One more questions
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[46:42] please. Please, Mr.
[46:43] President. Check it. The
[46:46] question is second
[46:47] on the pay provision, ok? You may
[46:50] remember
[46:55] the
[46:56] ARP system change order, you
[46:59] consider an out____
[47:00] in the amount of 025
[47:01] ,000 for the ARP project data
[47:03] connection.
[47:08] Mar пару? Okay, so
[47:08] this has to
[47:09] do with the ERP system in the grant minutes of software
[47:13] we have, in order for
[47:16] those two softwares, best if we do these in
[47:17] to talk. Some development has to be done on the ERP system that I did not anticipate.
[47:26] So this is a legitimate change order. I feel, because this was not part of the original
[47:31] scope of work. So I will take the blame on that. I didn't foresee that we would have
[47:36] need some development but I guess call this less and more and when you're trying to get
[47:43] to two systems to talk together.
[47:47] But ultimately this is what it would cost. There's
[47:51] just not a way to what we've had both companies get together to see if there was a way that
[47:57] we could do this without some kind of development work and they can't get the two systems
[48:02] to talk without this intermediate step.
[48:06] Is this a one time increase or it's a one time payment yes I would prefer you
[48:20] didn't make a motion to prove the
[48:26] to pop 1,000 for the ERP Project Data Connection.
[48:31] I've been motion and a second-on favorite instrument.
[48:35] I'm closing that pass this time to zero.
[48:39] Brendan, do you want to skip down to Haskell County before we go to the budget?
[48:42] Yes, I would prefer that.
[48:44] So number eight in Haskell County,
[48:46] to consider an out-to-barned contract to Haskell County for housing enemies.
[48:50] Sure if you want to talk about that, are you the same as usual?
[49:00] We've heard a lot of times that all the same except for the amount of people that they're
[49:06] required to have, they've changed that the boy only have to pay for how many, however many
[49:11] people we put there.
[49:14] How many do you want to put there right now?
[49:17] It means I can get over there.
[49:19] Fifty.
[49:20] Fifty?
[49:20] Fifty?
[49:21] Fifty.
[49:26] Fifty.
[49:26] Fifty.
[49:26] Fifty.
[49:27] Fifty.
[49:29] Fifty.
[49:30] Fifty.
[49:32] What did they change there?
[49:34] It was part of the first original deal.
[49:37] Got to cut their costs.
[49:40] They'll still take them to TDC from there.
[49:43] But we have to take them to the house.
[49:46] A forest has to go down here.
[49:48] I haven't looked at it.
[49:50] Four hours.
[49:51] Something like that.
[49:58] Great. We haven't motioned on this.
[50:10] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, there are no employment items on accounting projects.
[50:29] Just a very, very quick update on where we stand with phase two across straight there.
[50:35] Last week I was able to work with the trice state.
[50:39] They have gotten me all the clothes out documents which included basically the oliatic stock for the tunnel.
[50:45] There's not much left over for edict stock as far as the stair tower itself.
[50:49] It's all basically tunnel ceiling tile, paint, whatnot.
[50:52] They got me oliatic stock stuff.
[50:54] They were also able to supply a hard copy, a digital copy as well as a hard copy, I requested that at no additional cost, a hard copy of the as-built drawings.
[51:06] They supplied the binder containing all the operation owner and operating manuals, binder with all the letters of warranty.
[51:13] So as far as the close-up documents, we've received them all, and that's a big step.
[51:18] Currently, like I reported a couple of courts ago, we're in the process of finalizing some missing handicap signage that was found during the task inspection for the parking lot project.
[51:31] We're just this morning checked in with Tri-State, got an update that basically the subcontractor that's going to be installing all the signage received that stuff on Friday, so by the end of the week today, I'm pushing for early if not today.
[51:45] This week, that stuff is going to get done, that's the additional hand-to-cap signage.
[51:50] One missing word and some stenciling there to complete that.
[51:54] Once they get that done, I will send the application to the same inspector that we've got those corrections.
[51:59] Made, he will follow up with the approval of the corrections and whatnot.
[52:03] We're going to be extremely close to being able to finalize the final pay request, which is releasing all the retainage.
[52:11] And we're basically going to walk away from the projects shortly after that.
[52:16] So, slow progress with this next step, because we're waiting on a company to manufacture the signs to bring up to us and whatnot, but we're getting real close.
[52:23] So, that's all I got down a bit on the project across the street.
[52:28] Okay, any questions for Chris?
[52:31] Thanks, Chris.
[52:32] Thank you, guys.
[52:35] Do you want to go ahead and go to the budget and then come back, do you all report?
[52:38] I'm going to go ahead and go through all that.
[52:40] I'll just go ahead and do everything and then that way we can finish with the budget.
[52:44] All right.
[52:44] The jail today we have 612 people in custody.
[52:51] Any of those are female, 31 are housed and outside facilities.
[52:55] So we have a total actually in our jail if I've had an 81.
[52:59] Lubbock has one male.
[53:01] Lynn County has four males.
[53:02] Deft Smith County has 26, 10 B male and 16 males and we have 523
[53:09] felons and 16 misdemeanor cases.
[53:15] All right, insurance.
[53:19] Nothing.
[53:20] No wrecks.
[53:23] There is no executive session.
[53:25] We'll come back to the public hearing on the proposed budget and make any changes necessary.
[53:35] vote to adopt the budget, propose of property tax rate, set the date time and place for the public hearing on the tax increase,
[53:43] set the date time and place for the meeting to vote on the tax rate and take any other action necessary.
[54:37] All right, good morning, Judge.
[54:41] You know, as of as I spoke last week or two weeks ago, whatever whatever that special session was,
[54:51] You know, we have three meetings that we need to get through to both adopt the budget and to set the tax rate.
[55:02] Today's goal is to adopt the budget formally and those attacks rate and come back at the first meeting in September to fully adopt that.
[55:17] So we're on our second step in our roadmap to get where we need to be for adopting the budget fiscal year 2627.
[55:30] So that does mean today, if y'all vote to adopt the budget, y'all will be setting at least the expenditures in stone.
[55:40] And so I do want y'all to take into consideration that if there's any changes that y'all want to make today,
[55:50] It's going to take a motion and it will take three of five of you voting to agree on that just like any other motion would.
[56:01] So that's the general guardrails that I'd like to provide for this meeting.
[56:09] I think we had a lot of discussion around salary and very little discussion around equipment
[56:18] And because, as I said last time, the general theme of this budget was, if it was an operational item, you got it, and if it was not an operational item, if it was a salary originally except for a few exceptions, that nobody got it.
[56:37] As of the last court, all the changes outside of the 2% polo were taken out, and so that really just left the 2% polo across the board for all the employees of the county.
[57:03] And so my suggestion would be, and we could run this meeting however you want, but my suggestion would be,
[57:13] unless there are some operational items that you all would like to discuss, and maybe education and travel for a couple of departments might be the only thing that I can recall.
[57:26] Maybe giving the departments an opportunity to speak about what they would like for the salaries and that seemed to be the source spot.
[57:39] But again, it's up to the court how they'd like to.
[57:42] But that would be my suggestion on how to handle today.
[57:49] So you want to let people get up and talk about the race that they want, even though we're
[57:55] going to a percent across the board.
[57:57] I think that in terms of what I've heard there are some people that would still like to advocate
[58:10] and I think giving them an opportunity to advocate would be valid, even if the court is
[58:15] is not going to make that change, but again, this is ultimately your budget and I'm just
[58:23] devising you and what I think would be the most transparent way of handling this, so
[58:29] nobody seems. So nobody doesn't feel slided that they were treated unfairly.
[58:35] The issue is that we've already heard from most everybody before, so is there anybody out in
[58:41] that didn't get to come speak on your stage.
[58:46] Come on out, Stacey.
[58:53] I'd like to reintroduce myself.
[58:56] I'm Stacey's Ebola.
[58:57] I am going into my 27th year practicing law.
[59:01] And currently, I am doing that as the Potter County Guardian Adlightam,
[59:05] which means I am the attorney for all of the children who have a CPS case
[59:11] that originates out of Potter County.
[59:14] Potter County is a little bit different because we, as you know, have both hospitals, so that also means that any time, a child is born, possibly drug addicted, has to have some sort of CPS intervention, that comes through Potter County, not we're able to count me.
[59:33] We are a relatively new department.
[59:36] It's myself and my certified paralegal,
[59:39] Kelly Deaton, Kelly keeps us from having to hire
[59:42] a second attorney.
[59:44] Attorneys are expensive and I believe I could be wrong,
[59:49] but I believe I'm the lowest paid attorney in the county.
[59:52] I may be wrong with that.
[59:56] So let me tell you a little bit about what I do.
[59:58] Um...
[59:59] I mean...
[1:00:00] We have about 300 clients. We have new cases that start all the time, cases that close, but pretty much I've got 300 clients on the daily basis. The law requires that I meet with those clients, my clients range from infant to actually I've got some young adults up to 21. That I meet with them, or speak with their caretakers if they're very young, every time before I hear you, every time. So, every few months.
[1:00:30] When our cases start we've got the adversary hearing 30 days later. We have another hearing a few months later
[1:00:38] We have another and then a few months later we have another so a lot of my time is spent in court
[1:00:44] I've got court Tuesdays and Thursdays
[1:00:47] But a lot of my time is spent meeting with the children and their caretakers and meeting with their teams at CPS who are advocating for them
[1:01:01] If there's any kind of termination decision in terms of parents, I have to make a recommendation on that.
[1:01:10] I am extremely proud of the work that we do in Potter County.
[1:01:14] We've got a very high case load higher than the surrounding counties.
[1:01:20] The last that I saw when I look in 2023, the Randall County position,
[1:01:28] that does the same thing that I do, was listed as 123,000.
[1:01:35] It also is important to note that we've got to have your workload than they do.
[1:01:43] And there's no getting around that luckily, the county attorney's office was not hit with
[1:01:49] some of these changes, but since this department was created, there have been some legislative
[1:01:54] of changes that required a whole new type of case.
[1:01:59] Those are family-based cases.
[1:02:01] Those used to not have council.
[1:02:04] Now we've got these new family-based cases where I have to represent the children in those
[1:02:09] cases as well.
[1:02:12] Parents are also given attorneys in that point.
[1:02:15] Luckily, the county attorney's office didn't have to take that hit because internal DFPS
[1:02:22] Council cover those cases. I am still covering those cases on behalf of Potter County for the children.
[1:02:30] I do think that for the work that we do, our office is still underpaid.
[1:02:38] I am asking simply for a salary of 115,000, which I believe is a 7% increase.
[1:02:45] I would also like an increase for Kelly Dayton because she keeps us from having to hire another attorney, which is the bigger expense.
[1:02:55] Thank you very much.
[1:02:56] What is sort of Kelly's salary?
[1:02:59] I apologize, I do not have Kelly's salary.
[1:03:02] I'm sorry?
[1:03:02] 54,000.
[1:03:03] 54,000.
[1:03:08] So, say, what do you, what, what, what are, maybe you can tell me, what are other attorneys making?
[1:03:16] Why are she making so far under?
[1:03:19] I mean, the why just has to be, it's a function of where the position started in, you know, the colours that were given, and then there was a one time bomb.
[1:03:30] I mean, it's just a matter of the mouth.
[1:03:35] Ultimately, that is something that is within the quarks for augmenting, just like eating analysis salary.
[1:03:42] And so, you know, this is...
[1:03:46] This is one of the reason you ask the reason why I wanted to bring this up is just because I wanted to make sure that everybody came out of this meeting knowing that it's going to be locked in place with the opportunity to speak if they said choose.
[1:03:59] And again, it's up to the court the only year.
[1:04:02] So I think we gave you a bump.
[1:04:03] Was it last year or year before?
[1:04:04] I think it's the year before before.
[1:04:07] I believe I met one of five.
[1:04:09] I could be wrong on that number.
[1:04:12] Probably not.
[1:04:12] I believe that's correct.
[1:04:14] I'm a drug expert.
[1:04:16] I'm a drug expert.
[1:04:16] I'm a drug expert.
[1:04:17] I'm a drug expert.
[1:04:22] Then you go with the color of the color of the color of the color.
[1:04:26] So what is the, so many tell me what is the starting salary for a drug expert?
[1:04:30] Like a person you are a attorney.
[1:04:31] You're not a first year, but I mean what is the starting salary?
[1:04:33] It varies by department.
[1:04:36] Pick one.
[1:04:38] Accounting attorney.
[1:04:39] What is all, what is all, what is all, what is all,
[1:04:42] I don't
[1:04:53] believe there are two positions posted right now, I don't know what they're posted
[1:04:59] time.
[1:05:09] I can personally test about it. You guys are busy. I've never seen anything like that. I mean, you're very rarely
[1:05:15] that you're gone all the time. One of the things that's different about our kind of law is that it does require us to be out of the office very often.
[1:05:25] And because most of our kids are school age, in order to meet with them, that requires lots of nights and lots of weekends,
[1:05:32] unless I'm going to go and pull them out of school, and I try very hard not to do that. There are times when I do have to meet with children
[1:05:39] school. Summer is an easier time for us because we are a little bit we've got more flexibility
[1:05:45] in in meeting with the kids but with vacation schedule things like that there's no way to avoid
[1:05:52] nights and weekends two weekends ago I spent I did six visits in Amorillo on Saturday and 12 visits
[1:06:00] in Lubbock on Sunday. That's a pretty regular thing for me that I am in Lubbock at least once every
[1:06:07] two months, if not every month, and I pretty much work every weekend, maybe not all weekend,
[1:06:14] but every weekend when I'm in town.
[1:06:17] And to judge to answer your question, it's really hard because there's budgets on positions,
[1:06:23] but there's so many positions that are not at the full salary.
[1:06:29] And so I mean, it's a loaded question for me to speak on behalf of the three department
[1:06:36] I mean, what they start to people out, I can just tell you that a lot of, you know, none of them start their people
[1:06:45] seemingly at the, at the full budget for the position.
[1:06:52] So, I don't know.
[1:06:54] I mean, they've been practicing well again?
[1:06:56] 27 years.
[1:06:59] 27 years.
[1:06:59] Magna cum lock from Texas Tech.
[1:07:02] I'll offer you this for that.
[1:07:05] I don't care.
[1:07:05] I don't care.
[1:07:09] How long have you been doing this?
[1:07:11] This position.
[1:07:12] So this position was created in 21, and so I've been doing it since then.
[1:07:18] But I've been doing this type of work for probably about 14, 15 years.
[1:07:26] Stacey's in a unique position too.
[1:07:28] Her department is overseen by the commissioners court.
[1:07:32] like other legal departments that are headed by elected officials, so her positions a little
[1:07:37] unique in that respect and so my recommendation would be to look at you know to get apples
[1:07:44] apples it would be it would be a rental counting or another county's counterpart doing
[1:07:48] a similar position. And in a search from 23 before this change in law that increased the
[1:07:56] does show Randall County had it at 123, and that was in 2020, 2030.
[1:08:03] It was on my commotion, I believe she's correct, and I've also done some checking as well.
[1:08:08] And I think she is underpaid. I hate to open this, this can of her, but I think it's fair and equitable.
[1:08:14] We are paying other attorneys with less experience that are working in office.
[1:08:21] She's running off as we're doing all by herself and with her health, with her assistant.
[1:08:30] I may just, I see not asking for enough, so I appreciate you taking that into consideration.
[1:08:35] I make that motion that we increase her salary and 150 has asked.
[1:08:40] The garden at Lidham is very valuable.
[1:08:44] I work district court and from town to town, they just had to call out and find a
[1:08:51] gardener that lied to me if they could find one. Sometimes some of the VA guys would
[1:08:56] have to be the gardener that lied to me. And so I think it's such a valuable position.
[1:09:04] And I know she runs all over town, I've heard about you, I've seen some of your work,
[1:09:07] I'll come and tackle some of your children, so I know what you do, and I believe on a couple
[1:09:14] of Sundays I just missed you leaving for where you were leaving, so I think it's a very
[1:09:20] valuable position, and I think I think it's very undefeated, so I think we should.
[1:09:26] So, well, what was the amount against facing you as you want?
[1:09:30] One-fifteen.
[1:09:31] One-fifteen.
[1:09:32] George, I've laid a motion.
[1:09:33] I know, but I don't think it's-
[1:09:34] And I should suck in that.
[1:09:37] I'm going to have a very difficult time.
[1:09:39] I'm going to have some people come up here.
[1:09:45] I'm going to have some similar stories in deservedly places.
[1:09:49] However, I'm going to have to, I'm going to be on the other side.
[1:09:54] Because I think the two percent of everybody is already to go.
[1:09:57] And if we start, the peace and everything.
[1:10:02] I understand that this is a very unique situation. Just work in an opposite situation.
[1:10:11] I'm not saying that she doesn't, but I'm just going to be a problem.
[1:10:16] My opinion is I think that's something that we do have to look at.
[1:10:20] Is everybody individually? It's going to be hard.
[1:10:24] We're not going to make the right decisions on some of these people, but I think they all need to be heard on where they need to be paid.
[1:10:30] more we think they need to be paid. We need to make those decisions and hear each one individually
[1:10:36] if needed. Because 2% that's basically a pay cut by almost one and a half percent if you
[1:10:44] count inflation. So, and a lot of these people like said they've had job duties added onto them,
[1:10:51] trading more jobs have changed since the last time they have had pay raises or pay adjustments.
[1:10:58] And I think we do need to hear them and consider each one individually.
[1:11:03] And unless you'll have any more questions for me, I'll go ahead and sit down while you all discuss.
[1:11:17] Okay. I just think this is a unique situation.
[1:11:20] Do you release the one we have in motion in a second?
[1:11:26] I'm still talking.
[1:11:27] I'm still talking.
[1:11:28] And not to be greedy, but I would ask that Kelly be included in any kind of race.
[1:11:33] If we need to move my noun to move hers up, I wouldn't ask her.
[1:11:38] Joe Zell was, well first kind of cool, I was very interested in starting this position actually.
[1:11:46] We're looking to the bottom, I'll talk to you about it, and I thought it was necessary that we saved money by hiring calcium inside.
[1:11:55] And we did save a believer saved a look at like $100,000 by doing that.
[1:12:00] I agree with Mr. Kelly.
[1:12:07] We're in a quality where we're looking at a tax increase that I've never voted for before like that.
[1:12:15] And I think I don't think any of us have.
[1:12:20] But we've got a problem when we've got a problem when we've got a attorney not making.
[1:12:27] If she could work for Scott's office in the same job, she'd make probably 140.
[1:12:32] If it was open, if she went for the district attorney's office, I suspect she'd make her
[1:12:37] on the same thing, was her, was her, was her, was her, was her skills and abilities
[1:12:44] and having great, probably Randall County,
[1:12:50] like I just, that's why I'm supporting her.
[1:12:53] Okay, so we have a motion on a second, all in favor, raise your hand, pose, pass this
[1:13:01] one. Congratulations, Stacey. You deserve it. I know you did. I'll watch you. You're never there.
[1:13:08] You cross the hall from me, you're never there.
[1:13:12] Watch your left ear.
[1:13:18] But it appears this court has a month for the public defender's office. It's got money for the
[1:13:24] the guard in that line and which is great. I appreciate the fact that they have took
[1:13:28] jobs. So do my folks. I came here and asked you.
[1:13:32] So you don't have money for cops and you don't have money for prosecutors, but you have money for all the other lawyers in the county.
[1:13:39] Holy unfair and ridiculous.
[1:13:43] Thank you.
[1:13:45] Anybody else want to get out and speak?
[1:13:46] So I still want my three percent and a hundred thousand I asked for a place.
[1:13:54] How's your?
[1:13:56] I know where you stand, but I'd be remiss if I didn't come up here in five from people at that park for me.
[1:14:02] I've got four people in the process of looking for other jobs.
[1:14:07] They can go other agencies and make way more than what they're making with us.
[1:14:12] That's not counting, can't I?
[1:14:14] I can't.
[1:14:15] There's no way you can compete with that.
[1:14:17] That's a lot of money out there.
[1:14:18] But these are looking at other agencies that are right here in the city.
[1:14:23] And it's a huge pay you don't premium.
[1:14:25] So I've got four looking right now.
[1:14:28] Four short in the field.
[1:14:30] That's not even counting what's over in the jail. We've got about seven that are short in the jail. So
[1:14:35] Like I said, I would be remissed. I know where you guys have been. I said through this the other day. I all won't all day long. I understand
[1:14:42] And you got a tough decision. I'd be but I would be remissed if I didn't at least get up here in a in-five
[1:15:04] Well, I support what you're doing, looking out for employees at the same time. I'm making $20,000 less than any fire chief in the area. My guys are at the bottom of the pay scale on everything. And just retaining them is going to be very difficult in the future. I think I would be remiss if I didn't get up here and remind all of the same thing. I make a lot less than the range of the fire chief. We have higher call volume. We have more equipment. We have less people.
[1:15:33] That is one of the other things that we look at too.
[1:15:37] He is pretty much every fire chief in the Panhandle area that we're comparing us ourselves to
[1:15:42] has more staffs and less responsibility.
[1:15:46] So it's something to look at with every department.
[1:15:48] Appreciate it.
[1:15:50] Thank you.
[1:15:50] Thanks, Richard.
[1:15:55] Mr. Kelly was right.
[1:15:56] He's got up and up a can of worms.
[1:15:59] And I will agree with RDA in our share.
[1:16:05] If we're going to consider being the only one in office and never in office or whichever else
[1:16:10] and always out in the field, you're comfortable around the field.
[1:16:14] We're the lowest paid elected officials in this county.
[1:16:18] We only have for small rates to even get up to a probably, I think, a corporal deputy
[1:16:24] with the sheriff's office.
[1:16:26] We're not asking for 30,000 of the salary debt between us and the J.P.
[1:16:31] And the commissioners and every other elected official.
[1:16:36] So if we're going to look at that, please consider that as well as, you know, as a number
[1:16:40] of the official and law enforcement.
[1:16:45] Who else?
[1:16:48] Okay, I have someone in the audience, Alexa, Alexa, Ken, that would like to speak on the budget.
[1:17:02] Good morning.
[1:17:04] Yes, my name is Alexa, kid, I'm the executive director of the Department of Association
[1:17:07] of the Panhandle.
[1:17:09] I just don't think there's been a lot of appreciation that we could have been showing for
[1:17:14] the Constables, and I wanted to give that appreciation today.
[1:17:19] So we represent almost 400 members and over 21,000 rental units in the Panhandle, most of
[1:17:26] which are between Randall and Potter County.
[1:17:29] So I'm very recognized and expressed our appreciation for the Podger County Constables and
[1:17:34] essential role that they play in our community. For those who own and manage rental housing,
[1:17:39] consoles are not simply another government service, they are an important partner in helping
[1:17:43] us maintain safe and professional managed communities. Private rental housing providers interact
[1:17:48] with the public every single day, but that responsibility comes the educational situation that
[1:17:53] requires assistance. I want to emphasize that we understand these responsibilities are not always
[1:17:57] easy, and an eviction, for example, is just a legal process on cheaper. There are landlords
[1:18:03] to property managers residents and families involved, so motions can run high, and having
[1:18:09] trained professionals who know the law understand the process and know how to maintain
[1:18:13] order during those situations is incredibly important.
[1:18:17] For property owners and managers knowing that we have the Constables as a resource provides
[1:18:21] the level of security and confidence that's difficult to put a dollar value on.
[1:18:27] But perhaps just as important as a serviceism sells as the relationship to be able to develop
[1:18:31] with the Constables. They help us provide education to our members, become and speak to our
[1:18:36] members, and they really show how valuable their office is to us. I have so many members
[1:18:43] come to me which just praises about our Constables and how they help handle situations with
[1:18:48] tenants. Someone asked the Commission to recognize the importance of the Potter County
[1:18:54] Constables in the work that they do for our community and encourage them to continue to support
[1:18:58] and their services by providing their necessary funding.
[1:19:02] Thank you.
[1:19:02] Thank you, man.
[1:19:04] Also, Kristen McClure wants to speak on the budget.
[1:19:17] Good morning.
[1:19:17] Good morning.
[1:19:17] Good morning.
[1:19:18] I'm Kristen McClure.
[1:19:19] I'm a property manager at Rock Island Apartments.
[1:19:21] So I oversee 360 units roughly about 700 residents.
[1:19:26] And here's to speak on the behalf of our rental housing community.
[1:19:30] And again, why the constables are so important to our industry and to the communities that we serve.
[1:19:34] As property managers, my job is not simply to manage buildings or collect rent.
[1:19:39] We are responsible for maintaining safe, stable communities for getting my roughly 700 people.
[1:19:45] Every day we deal with situations involving recent forcements, civil processes, evictions
[1:19:50] and residents who may be experiencing difficult situations.
[1:19:54] Having dependable constables available to assist with these matters is incredibly important.
[1:20:00] All schools provide a service that directly impacts the rental housing industry. They help execute civil processes and enforce lawful court orders in situations that myself as a property manager can always safely do.
[1:20:13] So, their presence provides a level of professionalism, authority, and safety that is necessary when dealing with difficult or potentially confrontational situations.
[1:20:24] For property managers, an eviction is never just a business transaction.
[1:20:28] There are people involved, and emotions can run high.
[1:20:32] Having a considerable air to carry out a poor order,
[1:20:34] ensures that the process is handled, accordingly, to the law,
[1:20:38] and helps protect everyone involved, including the resident and my staff.
[1:20:43] Constables also serve as an important bridge between the courts,
[1:20:47] property owners, and our communities.
[1:20:49] They're working as the court decision, actually carried out in a timely and appropriate manner.
[1:20:55] When the process works efficiently, we all benefit from that.
[1:20:59] I understand that the county commissioners don't have a difficult decision to make when it comes to public
[1:21:04] to budgets and public resources.
[1:21:06] But I would ask you to consider the broader impact of the Constables roles.
[1:21:11] Their work supports not only property owners and management companies, but also represents
[1:21:16] neighborhoods and the overall stability of our rental housing district.
[1:21:20] Here in Amarillo, we need constables who are available, properly supported, and equipped to continue to provide these essential services for us.
[1:21:29] I mean, half of the rental housing industry.
[1:21:31] I want to say thank you to our constables for what they do and we truly value them and all the health they give us in our industry.
[1:21:39] And you all thank you for letting us speak.
[1:21:41] Thank you.
[1:21:41] Alright, the next one is the Christine Euphor.
[1:21:47] I've heard of her.
[1:21:51] I don't want to.
[1:21:57] I don't want to.
[1:21:58] I don't want to.
[1:21:59] I just wanted to also visit about the.
[1:22:03] Constables and speak from experience.
[1:22:06] On evictions that I.
[1:22:09] I can't.
[1:22:11] Tell you.
[1:22:13] What a crap shoot it is.
[1:22:15] You never know what you're going to get with an eviction.
[1:22:17] And when we have to enforce one, we may have a totally compliant person that is willing to move out,
[1:22:26] but we also have squatters that are on meth and who knows what else and there's no telling what they do.
[1:22:33] And I haven't countered this.
[1:22:35] And having that constables as a command presence diffuses a lot more than just, you know, showing up.
[1:22:49] They've helped me personally, not be injured, when I'm trying to protect the owners I represent and their property.
[1:23:00] They've kept me from getting bit by animals that are allowed on the property, but are there anyway.
[1:23:07] And so, you know, it's very personal to me as a property manager.
[1:23:14] And as a resident of Potter County, that we keep these people, we keep these good people
[1:23:21] who protect us, who protect our property owners, rights, and protect the neighbors,
[1:23:28] and helping us evict, you know, those who would do us harm.
[1:23:35] So, I would advocate that they need a raise, we need to keep what we got, we actually need
[1:23:41] more than what we have, the homeless population has just exploded around here, and our eviction
[1:23:50] rate, they can tell you has exploded by the same amount. It's gotten crazy, and I do appreciate
[1:23:57] you guys letting us come and speak for them. Thank you, thank you. Judge, we have another one
[1:24:02] that just came in Melanie Scott. Okay, Melanie, right here?
[1:24:09] Good morning. Good morning.
[1:24:10] My name is Melanie Scott, I am a real turpinning, the business since 94, I'm a property manager, I'm also a landlord.
[1:24:18] And what I want to speak to you all about is not in disregard to our sheriff's office, our police department.
[1:24:25] They do have phenomenal job.
[1:24:27] However, they're limited with their resources, just like everybody else.
[1:24:32] When we need them as constables, and this is in the city limits.
[1:24:37] For evictions, for rits, for well checks, sometimes our police department, our sheriff's
[1:24:42] department can't get to it.
[1:24:43] They have too many other duties.
[1:24:46] If you're familiar with Senate Bill 38, we have a limited number of days to serve these
[1:24:50] rents now.
[1:24:52] Our constables is who we call.
[1:24:54] We rely on them for safety, for holding things in a timely manner and getting it done.
[1:24:59] And it's...
[1:25:00] We want any disregard to any of our other departments. But in Potter County, that is who they go to and they get the job done. I am very concerned that if we were to not have our constables or have less of our constables, fewer number, this wouldn't be happening. And investors and Emma Rowland, people from all over, I can't tell you how important you talk, Montana. I have investors and investing in Amirilin.
[1:25:28] because they respect the law enforcement that we have.
[1:25:34] They respect, they keep these people out in a timely manner.
[1:25:37] They respect that things are done safely and we're on top of it.
[1:25:42] I'm afraid, if you reduce the number of Constables, that is not going to be the case.
[1:25:46] And we're going to be in a position where Senate Bill 38, we're going to be refiling and refiling.
[1:25:51] And that's just because the main power shall be there.
[1:25:54] We have more population outside of the city limits now that our sheriff's are responsible for.
[1:26:02] We see them patrolling.
[1:26:03] They're doing a great job.
[1:26:04] They're at the schools.
[1:26:05] It's a fire department.
[1:26:06] That's another one.
[1:26:08] They're out and they're busy.
[1:26:10] And it's because our populations have grown by leaps and bounds.
[1:26:15] And it's not stopping.
[1:26:17] So my plea to you is really consider our customer's positions and understand what their duties are.
[1:26:24] Thank you.
[1:26:25] Thank you.
[1:26:27] Thank you.
[1:26:27] Anybody else?
[1:26:33] Thank you.
[1:26:33] Good morning.
[1:26:33] Good morning.
[1:26:35] I told y'all at the last budget meeting that I would have an update for you.
[1:26:42] So we had our TIDC quarterly meeting and we received word on Friday so it was not an
[1:26:50] agenda.
[1:26:50] I don't know.
[1:26:51] I will bring this and put it as an agenda item coming forward.
[1:26:54] But we were granted $341,800 for dollars as a county offset for this coming fiscal year.
[1:27:03] Now, that will be divided up amongst our six counties by the same percentage of the budget that each county puts in.
[1:27:13] And just so that anyway, I'm aware, Brandon, the April 13 vote on our budget is still intact as well as correct.
[1:27:20] Yes.
[1:27:21] But how does this offset affect your budget?
[1:27:28] Does it just increases the amount that TIGC will reimburse part of the county?
[1:27:34] About 341,000.
[1:27:36] You're not talking about additional spending.
[1:27:37] No, I'm not talking about additional spending.
[1:27:39] I just told that the court that I would update them.
[1:27:43] And I will set this for another agenda.
[1:27:45] I don't forget all the approval if you all want that money.
[1:27:53] Anybody else?
[1:27:59] Right.
[1:28:00] So, right then, let's continue on with the welcome back to all of that.
[1:28:07] I'm not asking for anything.
[1:28:08] We're going to go.
[1:28:09] David, can you...
[1:28:11] So, we're going to go all this by office.
[1:28:19] I asked for 2% coal in this old, I asked.
[1:28:23] Correct.
[1:28:26] So, like we said last time, there's really no changes here.
[1:28:32] And there's just the 2% COLA,
[1:28:36] the same thing for the commissioners, there's just 2% COLA, nobody wanted anything additional,
[1:28:44] human resources, it's the same as last time.
[1:29:01] I, the IT budget,
[1:29:05] I did check, or at least I've pulled it up, I haven't had a chance to double check, Julie.
[1:29:28] Yes, the tech website's already included.
[1:29:34] No, it's, it was in here for 6,000.
[1:29:38] So we, we would need, we would need an additional 7,000 added to the IT budget.
[1:29:47] And I'm sorry Brandon, did we get added those Azure licenses from the last school last time?
[1:29:54] Yes. Okay. Thank you.
[1:30:04] Do you want me to keep a running telly of things that you want to add and do one motion at the end, or how do you want to handle that?
[1:30:13] I think maybe the running telly, and then we can decide,
[1:30:19] I don't know if we're going to misgo over every step of it today.
[1:30:22] Well, I thought you had just said, we're going to go over every line I don't want to do that.
[1:30:27] We've done that.
[1:30:29] Okay. I thought that's what you had said.
[1:30:30] I mean, I don't know what you wanted to do because you put this together, so do you want to do that again or no?
[1:30:39] No, no, that's typically not what I would recommend in this situation.
[1:30:44] And it's not normally what we do with this.
[1:30:47] Normally what at the second meeting is we resolve any discrepancies from the first meeting where there were people who wanted to ask
[1:31:00] advocate, again, give them another chance that things of that nature is usually what happens
[1:31:09] at our second meeting because we've spent the entire day discussing this last time.
[1:31:16] And so the going back to my point, my point really was in terms of operational items,
[1:31:28] that
[1:31:29] That was, you know, if they asked for it, they pretty much got it, and so I didn't think
[1:31:38] we needed a really long discussion today about going through the operational line items again,
[1:31:43] unless there's something somebody from the court wanted to bring up.
[1:31:47] I do know last time there was some discussion about the travel and education for a couple
[1:31:58] of departments, I think the tax office was one that was not here and talked about it.
[1:32:05] Maybe they could talk about that would be one line item that I do recall that was kind
[1:32:10] it was a $6,000 increase from $11,000 to $17,000 that was from the coffee you that wanted
[1:32:18] to bring back.
[1:32:23] So, did you all want to go ahead and talk about that?
[1:32:25] I'm happy to do that.
[1:32:31] Morning Judge, missioners, hope you all are having a wonderful Monday. It's been a lot of fun.
[1:32:38] He would like for that.
[1:32:41] Yes, ma'am.
[1:32:42] So our proposal, I think you've seen, we tried to make several reductions in line items
[1:32:47] this year, because in our meeting with the judge, she said something that kind of stuck
[1:32:53] with me.
[1:32:54] She said, you know, if you want something, you're going to have to give something back, and
[1:32:58] we're really aware of that, and so we tried to give back.
[1:33:03] We are kind of, unfortunately, at the mercy of the increases on our postage and our stationary
[1:33:09] unit and that supplies, and so we weren't able to reduce quite as much as we wanted,
[1:33:14] but the only thing that we're asking for is kind of a want more than a need is the increase
[1:33:20] in our education travel.
[1:33:22] But the primary reason we wanted to do that is we wanted to send a couple of our book
[1:33:28] to the property tax conference that's going to be held later this year, but that was primarily the other thing as we'd like to have the flexibility to reimburse mileage for some of our staff when they go out and inspect properties for the share of sales.
[1:33:44] But that's primarily the reason. If the court would feel more comfortable with a lower number, we could maybe massage our budget a little bit to make a lower number work.
[1:33:55] We just want the flexibility to be able to provide more opportunities for education for our staff and to reimburse them when they go out to inspect properties.
[1:34:06] So I'd be happy to answer any questions.
[1:34:09] Well, I'd certainly be interested in what you'd be willing to lower to.
[1:34:13] Well, we, I don't know.
[1:34:15] When we had nine hours, six point, what?
[1:34:17] That actually increased.
[1:34:18] We're in it.
[1:34:18] It's about six point one and a half.
[1:34:21] And so, well, $6,000 isn't going to do really anything.
[1:34:27] I'll also find that other people have asked for things that we said no.
[1:34:32] And that's stated there, and I had some questions about it.
[1:34:36] So would you be happy that with the $2,000 increase?
[1:34:39] Would that work?
[1:34:39] Will that get your trainings that we keep my two in take four?
[1:34:42] I was actually going to suggest cutting it by half,
[1:34:46] so whatever the court's interest would be.
[1:34:48] Well, certainly you've sent two people of $1,000 each piece.
[1:34:51] I think we probably could.
[1:34:53] It would still provide some difficulties
[1:34:56] on reimbursing the mileage, but I think that we could definitely make.
[1:35:00] The tax conference work were too.
[1:35:04] If you will tell the motion, I would like to do stand-out by a few of that by a ten minutes question.
[1:35:09] Oh, I'm sorry?
[1:35:11] To tell the public what they're going to get, for us $2,000.
[1:35:17] As far as what we specifically intend to do with that, what you don't have to conference, right?
[1:35:23] Yes, sir. What are we going to get from that?
[1:35:25] So, we want to get more training on the property tax law for our staff, particularly as it seems
[1:35:33] like it's kind of a moving target every year, you know, things get changed in the legislative
[1:35:38] sessions and then they don't go into effect maybe a year or two later on a lot of the
[1:35:43] property tax stuff.
[1:35:43] So we just want people in our office who are knowledgeable about those things because having
[1:35:48] people in our office who are knowledgeable about the changing field of property taxes and
[1:35:53] along the mechanisms that we have to work with means that that's less time that we have
[1:35:59] to waste going out and acquiring it all at depth of the fact or having to bother the county
[1:36:06] attorneys office for opinions or having to bother Purdue Branden for opinions. So having
[1:36:13] that knowledge in our office, I think, is helpful. Does that answer your question? Yes,
[1:36:20] You have any other questions I'd be happy to answer?
[1:36:26] All right.
[1:36:27] Thank you.
[1:36:28] I think it's good to allow the Department of Health,
[1:36:32] Electric Fisher, Assistant, your employees to training,
[1:36:35] and also kind of directs up the amount of the job.
[1:36:38] I've benefited from that.
[1:36:40] I think most people would.
[1:36:43] And so my most important thing is to reduce
[1:36:45] is asked for training and budget from 6,000 to 2,000, so reduce about 4,000.
[1:36:54] It went from 11,000 to 17,000, so if you want to reduce it by 2,000 from his ask,
[1:37:03] you would reduce it from 17,000 to 15,000, or if you want to only give him an additional
[1:37:09] 2,000, you would go from 11,000 to 13,000.
[1:37:13] Then my motion is for him to have 13,000 for his 20 budget.
[1:37:22] 13,000 total.
[1:37:24] So what did you say?
[1:37:25] That's the moment of correct, right?
[1:37:27] Yes, 13,000.
[1:37:28] If you're wanting to give him 2,000 more the last year, then yes, the correct number is 13,000.
[1:37:36] It's still warm with that help you, already go.
[1:37:38] Yeah, there you are.
[1:37:39] I have a motion.
[1:37:40] I have a second.
[1:37:43] I don't have a second.
[1:37:47] So, have a motion and a second, all in favor of each year?
[1:37:53] Oh, yeah, past five is a rule.
[1:37:58] Okay, anybody else?
[1:38:01] Would you like to go ahead and vote on the tech website to, to, to, to,
[1:38:07] what we had in the budget was for 6000 and what was on the agenda today was for
[1:38:11] of $15,200, we would need that increase into the IT's budget as well.
[1:38:25] Huge point, why that is, let's talk about one more time.
[1:38:29] You might just want to let you get a lot of the increase.
[1:38:33] I have to think there are a lot more work that we have to kind of think of as a new problem.
[1:38:42] We're on the DOJ in 237, we have to be an ADA compliant on our website.
[1:38:49] They extended that from this year and so text just offering some different services.
[1:38:54] I can almost guarantee you if you went out to somebody like Civic Plus.
[1:38:59] Those other ones you're going to be paying a lot more than 13-2.
[1:39:03] So they're the ones from 6 to 13?
[1:39:05] Yes.
[1:39:07] And all counties that have the tech server website,
[1:39:11] they're facing this challenge as well,
[1:39:14] and they've actually gone out to other vendors and they're coming back to tech.
[1:39:21] I would say the attack has been a good partner in terms of sport, pricing compared to the open market and who things that I've seen, so they are not for profitability and I think that gives them an advantage in terms of, they're not trying to, you know, they don't have investors that they're trying to increase the investment on, they're simply exiting the tries to help Texas counties.
[1:39:52] So I'm not advocating for them, but in terms of pricing, I would say that that's a reasonable thing to assume.
[1:40:00] If you're getting your service from the non-profit entity, it's probably going to be cheaper than going out on the market.
[1:40:06] Do you need a motion for that?
[1:40:09] Yes, just because we need an additional $7,200 in the budget for the ITs,
[1:40:27] let me give you the exact name.
[1:40:36] While he's looking at up to you, same question, what are the constituents in part of county going to get for this?
[1:40:47] Website that's easily accessible.
[1:40:50] I think that we do a really good job of keeping everything up to date.
[1:40:56] It's easier to use than it was whenever we first migrated over to this particular website.
[1:41:01] We've paired it down from hundreds of pages down to what we currently have now, so just the
[1:41:07] ease of access and everybody that the great thing about the tech website is that I'm
[1:41:14] the, you know, Courtney and I are the administrator on our page.
[1:41:17] I'm the administrator for the whole county county attorneys offices, the administrator, you
[1:41:22] know, who ever else wants to be the administrator for their webpage, so they actually get
[1:41:25] to maintain that and have it look how they want and so they have been just a, or putting
[1:41:31] out there what they want instead of having to rely on somebody else and it's Texas
[1:41:37] base too. I'll have to put that out there. We have a lot of we currently have a
[1:41:41] system right now that we we try to talk to people and they're not within this
[1:41:46] country. So it is interesting to have a Texas-based website owner.
[1:41:57] What was
[1:42:01] Department of Software or Maintenance Account from 785,585 to 712,785.
[1:42:10] What's the, what's the actual number for this?
[1:42:12] What was it?
[1:42:12] 6,000.
[1:42:13] 11,200.
[1:42:15] I'll make that motion.
[1:42:18] Okay.
[1:42:19] I have a second.
[1:42:19] I have a motion in a second.
[1:42:21] The only favor is your hand.
[1:42:25] I suppose that pass is found to zero.
[1:42:31] The lock was slowly making that text straight.
[1:42:33] Go up.
[1:42:38] Okay, I have two more people. Do you want people that want to speak?
[1:42:42] So there's some questions about my power like $5,000.
[1:42:45] $5,000 is fine and costable for.
[1:42:48] I rounded up, because I always look, well, you know, it's come in fully rigged,
[1:42:52] but there's other things that have to be done.
[1:42:55] I'm assuming the shares also be able to do those things.
[1:42:58] So that's $5,000 you put mine equal to what Constable Jackson's vehicle is.
[1:43:03] But there are $5,000 that.
[1:43:04] Yes.
[1:43:05] Yeah, just take that out and put it equal to what here's is and I think with a new car if I get it
[1:43:11] It'll be covered out of the warranty and I'll have to spend anything big problem is my car is having problems again
[1:43:17] So I'll make it last
[1:43:20] So if that'll help out any
[1:43:21] I don't know how a certain paper Saturday didn't do a check engine line died in the middle of an intercession
[1:43:28] So, but at times, it started back up that there's, you know, $5,000 to help out.
[1:43:36] It should take off in mind.
[1:43:39] This will come out of the capital outlayed for the constable, for constable one.
[1:43:51] And it will go from 96,000 to 91,000 and the reduction is $5,000 and that will put it in line with constable force purchases.
[1:44:07] You did a motion on that?
[1:44:09] Yes. I'll change his need of motion.
[1:44:11] I moved to approve that. That's presented.
[1:44:14] Second.
[1:44:14] The motion in a second on a favor, right?
[1:44:17] Yeah.
[1:44:18] What was that past this time, Super?
[1:44:20] All right, I have a couple more people, Tiffany Billflower, I want to speak.
[1:44:27] Tiffany, come on up
[1:44:30] or come on bail, whatever.
[1:44:33] How are you today, ma'am?
[1:44:34] Good, how are you guys this morning?
[1:44:36] I came in a little bit late and trying to play a little bit of catch-up of what's going on
[1:44:41] as far as the consumables go.
[1:44:43] So, my I really just have a basic thing to say.
[1:44:46] the work that they do for me as a property manager.
[1:44:51] They help us a lot.
[1:44:52] We deal with a lot of interesting characters
[1:44:55] in property management.
[1:44:56] Some tenants in the way that they respond to evictions.
[1:45:00] And things like that. And I can say these consumables have had our back and helped me with some pretty unique situations.
[1:45:07] And I'm just really grateful for the work that they do. I don't know if our community really understands what they have to do with day in and day out.
[1:45:16] And some of the videos that I've seen with houses that they've had to go in and clear out and things are worse than some of the ones that I've seen.
[1:45:22] So I just really want to say how much I respect our
[1:45:26] Constables and I think the work that they do is
[1:45:28] Inmeasurable and I could not do the things that they do
[1:45:30] So I just really appreciate them and just wanted to make sure that
[1:45:33] That it's known that what they do for us is property managers
[1:45:36] It matters and we're just grateful for that.
[1:45:39] Thank you guys.
[1:45:42] Ray, great house.
[1:45:49] Good morning.
[1:45:50] It's hard to follow up after that because she
[1:45:52] Pretty much said everything I was going to say
[1:45:54] Even better but literally two weeks ago I had a
[1:45:57] of possession and these two wonderful Constables showed up and the guy was very aggressive
[1:46:02] and so as a female property manager that has to manage her own properties and a few
[1:46:06] others, it is very, very well received that they show up for us.
[1:46:12] So I just wanted to be known as well that they are very needed in the real estate world
[1:46:16] and property management and rentals for us because they support us getting the homes back
[1:46:21] and keeping it safe.
[1:46:23] So thank you guys for what you do.
[1:46:24] And
[1:46:32] where are we now bringing it?
[1:46:50] The judge, there was one other small item that was brought to my attention.
[1:46:58] There was a request for a B3s to the awards and recognition line of 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
[1:47:23] I think it's the employee appreciation committee is Berks still here.
[1:47:27] Yeah, they had a meeting, I wouldn't have the meeting.
[1:47:30] Okay.
[1:47:31] Bro, do you mind explaining that to us?
[1:47:32] I mean, I know you want to increase, but can you tell me?
[1:47:35] So we're wanting to go from an evening event to that time event and it's my understanding that
[1:47:40] the course Calboy Club won't cook for us during the day, so we're going to have to have a little
[1:47:46] bit of extra money to feed the employees. We feel like we'll have a better turn out during the
[1:47:50] day than we have in the evening. It's kind of dwindling. It would be a week later. Yeah, it'll be
[1:48:13] Just an idea we're tossing around.
[1:48:15] We used to have more money in that one item, I believe, than it got lowered.
[1:48:19] No, it was at $5,000, and then it got lowered to $1,000, and now it got raised back to $5,000.
[1:48:27] So I think we're just requesting $2,000 more.
[1:48:35] That's true, but this is for the employees and so this is something that
[1:48:39] We try to be every year to offer to the employees, you know, to the employee appreciation dinner.
[1:48:46] So that was just something that, again, like I said, I wasn't at this meeting, but I've been on the committee for a long time.
[1:48:52] And it's just a way to show the employees that they're appreciated.
[1:49:18] We just discussed that a lot of people can't come because they can't bring their children.
[1:49:24] We feel like we'd have a better turn out during the day because employees are already at work.
[1:49:28] Our office is at close for just a little offer.
[1:49:33] So maybe a better opportunity for them to attend rather than an evening event.
[1:49:40] I get that.
[1:49:44] Okay.
[1:49:45] We need a vote on this too.
[1:49:48] Is there a motion for changing the budget?
[1:49:53] I mean, that's, that's, I don't think if you want to, someone has to make motion.
[1:49:57] I mean, at this point, any chance.
[1:50:07] All right, do I have a motion on this?
[1:50:16] Do I have a motion?
[1:50:19] Do I have a motion? Do I have a motion?
[1:50:20] Do I have a motion? Do I have a motion?
[1:50:23] Sorry, Brooke.
[1:50:30] Okay, what else?
[1:50:34] David, can you help me out?
[1:51:17] I do know that there was at least a point to bring up a warning to discuss.
[1:51:24] I was brought up to me this week to discuss the request of Constantine III in wanting to add a position
[1:51:31] the force of security out of JP III.
[1:51:39] Dennis here.
[1:51:42] You're not discussing the other day and you said, I see that you said no and I said, yeah, because
[1:51:46] okay.
[1:51:50] So the piece here, we can talk to him again, but he's not here right now.
[1:51:54] It's going to go past that one.
[1:51:58] Does Jackson, do you want to talk about it?
[1:52:00] I don't know if you're very interested in it.
[1:52:04] I mean, I'm here.
[1:52:08] I'm going to have to say a couple of things.
[1:52:10] I don't know if you're going to have to hear it.
[1:52:17] I mean, if you're sitting,
[1:52:25] I can just try to do that.
[1:52:46] The next department then is the sheriff's department, I mean, that's the, that would be the,
[1:52:55] um, is there any interest in entertaining this from the console over the sheriff's department?
[1:53:08] who's still talking about the courasqueer.
[1:53:11] I would have a cave in the sheriff's office to do that.
[1:53:15] The problem is this is money.
[1:53:18] And if we allow a constable to hire a deputy,
[1:53:23] the deputy for courasqueer is going to make more than the castle.
[1:53:29] It gets some issues with that, but I don't think we can fix that today.
[1:53:34] I certainly wouldn't advocate for us to do that, and I think it's the size of that, the
[1:53:40] fear of solstice responsible for courthouse security, and that's a courthouse.
[1:53:44] Sure, you've got up and said you would do that,
[1:53:51] and we got to find a person.
[1:53:55] So, okay, so Judge Jackson, do you have court every day?
[1:54:00] We have a court on a ad in the three to four times a week.
[1:54:06] All day?
[1:54:09] And that's enough for the act of conflict, and that's enough for the act of conflict.
[1:54:14] It's not for the court security.
[1:54:16] It's for our security.
[1:54:17] I don't know.
[1:54:18] It's for his office.
[1:54:20] Well, but it's, but the cost was required, but it's responsible.
[1:54:25] It's here in the court.
[1:54:26] And the court has to be responsible for the court.
[1:54:28] I know.
[1:54:29] That's why I was asking how many times it happened.
[1:54:32] Well, I'm sorry.
[1:54:32] I thought you were trying to do it.
[1:54:34] No, no.
[1:54:34] If we could do less math, I heard him.
[1:54:40] Sheriff, she had somebody that could help out with that.
[1:54:44] Or is that something they even know?
[1:54:47] Yes or no?
[1:54:50] So you would have to hire somebody.
[1:54:53] And what's the starting pay?
[1:54:54] What's the starting pay for him?
[1:55:15] Okay, I want to let you all think on that. Sure, if we're going to take a 10 minute break.
[1:55:45] All right,
[1:55:46] bring it. I'll let you one, say which we're going to say.
[1:55:53] Well, Judge, I just really wanted to actually
[1:55:57] give it back to the court. We have talked about the whole budget. And I really just would like to know if the court has any
[1:56:07] questions about the budget, anything that the court wants to bring up rather than try to,
[1:56:15] you know, try to figure something out from my side.
[1:56:20] Because ultimately this is the budget that you all need to load on and adopt.
[1:56:27] So, between the meetings we've had and the conversations and the last commissioner court
[1:56:37] where we have a special court, and we focus today on this, and the discussions today, is there
[1:56:43] anything that the court wants to bring up any member of the court wants to bring up to be added
[1:56:50] to the budget or to take away from the budget?
[1:56:57] Yes, I'd like to bring up what we're doing with the
[1:56:59] firemen.
[1:57:02] And we're talked about trying to keep up or even move with the civilian market or other
[1:57:09] agencies like how we're trying to pay the lawyers, at least keep them within the reasonable
[1:57:13] pay range.
[1:57:15] We need to desperately look at our prior department, pulled up some members since we
[1:57:20] had our last meeting.
[1:57:22] Right now, starting pay for Putter County, is $49,148.
[1:57:28] Randall County, which is our closest person, is $49,552.
[1:57:35] So about $400 difference, but then you start looking at Emorello if you're looking at $13,171 difference.
[1:57:43] If you go to somebody like Lubbock, which is still within our range for where people are going to go
[1:57:47] be working for, you're looking at $20,000 difference. The fireman's job doesn't change just because
[1:57:55] you change the white letters on the truck. You whether it goes from Randall County to Potter County,
[1:58:01] city of Marello. They're still doing the same jobs and the hiring base of what they're doing is
[1:58:07] still the same. The fireman really hadn't gotten pay raises for say in a long time as it even
[1:58:15] trying to keep up and I know we can't compete with the city but we need to keep moving that direction.
[1:58:22] Right now the city is talking about doing a 3% pay raise so you're taking that $13,000. We're looking
[1:58:29] And maybe a 2% they're looking at 3% so let's about there's up to $14,000 difference now.
[1:58:35] And that's just the beginning.
[1:58:36] You move up to where compared to Randall County, which I don't like doing, but let's go
[1:58:42] and do it just for the numbers.
[1:58:44] An assistant chief with Randall County is making $22,094 more than we are here at Carter County.
[1:58:52] And when you're trying to replace these chiefs out here, assistant chiefs, even captains,
[1:58:58] Lieutenant's, Lieutenant's are making almost $10,000 more in rental county.
[1:59:03] We're not going to be able to replace our staff when they're retired or leave to go to
[1:59:09] these other places.
[1:59:10] And we're not going to be able to hire the new people to move on up in the ranks.
[1:59:15] You know, if you're a young person 22, 23 years old, or you're going to go to Potter County,
[1:59:20] or you're going to go to Lubbock that's paying $20,000 more for the same job, same skills,
[1:59:26] These guys and ladies are extremely highly skilled with the training they'll have to do.
[1:59:31] This isn't back in the 80s and 90s where you'll just take somebody that wants to volunteer for the fire department
[1:59:37] thrown through two-weeking classes and throw them on a truck.
[1:59:41] The training that these people have to go to now, the hours they have to work,
[1:59:46] on average, the fireman's work in an extra, they're working about 58-hour weeks compared to the normal person to 40-hour week.
[1:59:53] and we're paying a lot less than most,
[1:59:58] something even just a regular day.
[2:00:00] Great time job in an office. These guys in ladies are making considerable bit less, and they're risking
[2:00:05] their lives. They're doing CPR on your grandma that's about to pass away. They're out there in the fires.
[2:00:13] They're real tribune just did a great article on our Putter County Fire Department, how good they were doing on fire recently.
[2:00:20] And it was the experience that they were talking about on how well it was handled and it could have been a lot different if we wouldn't have that experience chief out there or
[2:00:30] Assistant chief out there
[2:00:31] Handling that fire
[2:00:33] I
[2:00:34] Think we should do a 5% pay raise for the fire department and that's going to be no more close to even breaking even with the city
[2:00:42] It would get us even with Randall County for the beginning fire fighter
[2:00:47] we would still be
[2:00:49] be $18,000 behind on a chief, would be $1,000 behind on a captain, and would be over $6,000
[2:00:58] behind on a lieutenant. But at least they would get the beginning person the same pay. So
[2:01:04] at least we could compete on the beginning bottom level. And move up there, there's something
[2:01:11] that's going to take multiple years to adjust. Like I said, coming up $22,000, and that's
[2:01:17] to rent a car stop comparing to the city or anything like that. The city would be looking at
[2:01:23] $37,000 behind when you start looking at the captain's pet. I mean that's a whole
[2:01:28] other paycheck for a lot of people. But I think we need to look at 5% that would take for the general
[2:01:37] budget, it would add about $81,314 and to the CAD it would add about $78,395 approximately.
[2:01:47] Um, Brandon can maybe crunch the numbers better here to many if we do discuss this, but
[2:01:53] I think that's something we're greatly need to look at, or we're just not going to have
[2:01:56] a fire department, surely because we're not going to be able to compete, we're just going to
[2:02:01] keep following further and further behind.
[2:02:07] Brandon, yes.
[2:02:08] Brandon, what's the current tax rate that we're at right now?
[2:02:10] What's the first half?
[2:02:12] Six more.
[2:02:22] Um, we are looking at about a 6.1% tax rate increase.
[2:02:27] yes.
[2:02:30] So,
[2:02:34] I think that is, I don't know who said it, but we're not, we're definitely not
[2:02:39] keeping up with inflation,
[2:02:44] but you haven't. We've got a huge tax increase, we're looking
[2:02:48] at, but if we were right now we're in a 2% across the board, what would a 3% mean? What
[2:02:55] would that be?
[2:02:57] I don't know if you could even do a 3% across the board at this point right now.
[2:03:06] Well, okay, let me phrase everything properly.
[2:03:11] When you're talking about the various, no
[2:03:19] new revenue rate, the voter approval rate, the
[2:03:23] to implement, you know, our voter approval rate with the unused increment, with all of
[2:03:32] our unused increment, is about 6.8 percent effective.
[2:03:38] And so that is only about another 479,000 dollars that you can go up to without from where
[2:03:48] currently are without triggering an election.
[2:03:55] And so you could go above that voter approval rate
[2:03:58] that you would need to hold an election to do it.
[2:04:05] And so that's historically, we haven't ever gotten to that point.
[2:04:10] you know. But it is within the courts prerogative to do that. The mechanics of it, I'll be
[2:04:19] honest, since we haven't done it before, I don't know what the next steps of actually holding
[2:04:25] the election and all the, it's in statute, so it's obviously something that you can do,
[2:04:32] but it is something we would need to consider to, that you'd have to take it to the taxpayer.
[2:04:37] Well, the reason I asked that is because I understand that the Randall County, our counterparts,
[2:04:43] is giving a 2% with a 1% discretionary.
[2:04:50] And so,
[2:04:53] I mean, they're also not doing a 6% tax increase either.
[2:04:58] But so.
[2:05:00] Thank you for answering my
[2:05:06] question.
[2:05:06] Anybody else have any remarks?
[2:05:09] We're talking about
[2:05:13] where I appreciate you talking about that.
[2:05:15] But I'm not appreciate what you guys do.
[2:05:18] The fire department.
[2:05:21] I'm just afraid if we don't do something to at least move that direction.
[2:05:26] They are going to be coming back and asking for that $30,000.
[2:05:30] It may not be next year, but it's going to be very soon.
[2:05:34] We're not even, we're not even staying close, even with our closest neighbor of Randall County.
[2:05:41] Twenty-two thousand dollars difference in the same job, and the only thing we did was change an R and a P on the truck.
[2:05:51] They both still say county, and there's a big difference.
[2:05:55] The jobs say the same, the skills say the same, and what they have to do with the emergency medical training they have to require
[2:06:03] The lot wild land certifications, the structural certifications is just getting more and more each year on their skills that they're requiring.
[2:06:12] And if we don't compensate them for their skills, knowledge and experience, we're going to lose them to other departments and quickly.
[2:06:21] And I'm not asking to even get remotely close to the same pay even as Randall County.
[2:06:25] I'm just asking that we move and not fall further and further behind.
[2:06:30] Anybody
[2:06:39] have anything else to say about that?
[2:06:44] I understand what you're saying.
[2:06:46] Where are I?
[2:06:46] I really do.
[2:06:47] I wish we could do it.
[2:06:49] I can't do it.
[2:06:51] I cannot raise taxes 6.
[2:06:53] Right now, 6.1.
[2:06:55] I'm going to have.
[2:06:55] We're just going to go out to 6.7 if we get everybody with the one.
[2:06:59] I can't do that.
[2:07:00] It's just not feasible.
[2:07:05] So, Sheriff, can you come up and tell me one more time about the person that works in my courthouse?
[2:07:12] that we could use on those deputies to be a security at the TIP-3.
[2:07:20] We're still one short in our courthouse security.
[2:07:23] We have in our budget to have two in the old courthouse.
[2:07:27] We could take that position and move that out to JPE-3, but we still have to find that position.
[2:07:36] As I said, there's a great job over there, and I don't think he has any problem to handle
[2:07:40] and that kind of thing, plus he's right down here down town,
[2:07:43] he could have back up pretty quick,
[2:07:44] even if somebody had to run from here over there.
[2:07:47] They've got a lot of enforcement upstairs
[2:07:48] if they needed to come down.
[2:07:51] They may be outrun, and I'm not saying
[2:07:52] that they're always up there on the board,
[2:07:54] but they could help if they needed to,
[2:07:56] but I think we could be able to take care of that if we need it.
[2:07:59] But that just saves you, but given another person,
[2:08:02] we could move that one out there.
[2:08:04] He's got a machine out there that has been there
[2:08:06] for over a year that, good lord,
[2:08:09] I don't even know if it'll work, but I have to send somebody out here to make it work, and that's their extraordinary machine.
[2:08:15] It's just sitting there, and you gotta have somebody that's certified to be able to work on that, or even you.
[2:08:20] Well, it's not working yet, you don't have to work.
[2:08:23] No.
[2:08:23] Okay.
[2:08:24] Why don't you work through it?
[2:08:25] Okay.
[2:08:26] But they have to calibrate it in order.
[2:08:28] Does it make, does it make trust that they have a gun?
[2:08:32] Okay.
[2:08:33] So, so we can do that.
[2:08:34] That was saying, that would give him what he needs, and that would say.
[2:08:38] I mean, we only need one at the courthouse, and we've got-
[2:08:41] You've been running with one over there for a long time.
[2:08:44] Yeah. So let's do that. That's one thing.
[2:08:46] I mean, this is another way of saving and helping you.
[2:08:51] Like I said, it's, I just think it's a good idea,
[2:08:55] but again, it's one way to take care of that.
[2:08:58] And like I said, these guys downstairs, if they need a two,
[2:09:00] they could run over and be all our pre-quick two.
[2:09:04] All right. Judge, are you okay with that?
[2:09:06] I don't cost this anything, okay?
[2:09:12] All right, what else?
[2:09:21] I mean, ultimately, my question still stands.
[2:09:25] I think it's really up to the court, at this point, say if there's anything else
[2:09:31] to address about this year's budget for the upcoming fiscal year.
[2:09:39] Is there a way to move that 6.1 down? Is there anything that you see that you'd make a
[2:09:49] recommendation to the court that you could take something out, maybe there's too much
[2:09:56] If you don't lie to Adam, there's something more...
[2:10:00] I'm not thinking about this.
[2:10:04] Well,
[2:10:07] the only thing that I can think of that will move the needle in some
[2:10:15] appreciative way is we
[2:10:27] added $1.8 million to the line item. We also took, because the original
[2:10:37] presentation was going to be for there to be a Haskell contract because it was, it really
[2:10:44] operated differently than all of our daily rate housing. And so to kind of fit that
[2:10:51] into the budget, we added the 1.8 million, which is the annualized amount for the Haskell
[2:10:57] contract and the judge and I discussed reducing that daily rate line from the 1.2 million
[2:11:05] down to about 500,000, because the thought would be that they would probably still need some
[2:11:12] housing outside of Haskell, but where my issue is, I don't know necessarily how much, because
[2:11:23] it varies so much. Because the year before we were looking at almost a million dollars of housing
[2:11:31] And, you know, this year or today without the Haskell contract were around 500,000, so you would think that with 50 additional people in Haskell, you wouldn't need the entire amount, which is why we reduced it from 1.2 million to about 500,000, there could be an opportunity to reduce this line item some, because we won't need all of those contracts.
[2:12:03] But it's hard to give you a what will our future prisoner demands needs be, because it just fluctuates so much.
[2:12:19] And so I could say that we could move maybe maybe another 100 or 200,000 out of this line.
[2:12:29] I don't know, that would, that would, you know, for every 80, 85,000 dollars you take out
[2:12:37] you're looking at about a, you know, a 0.1% roughly, that's a ballpark figure.
[2:12:48] So if you, you know, you could take,
[2:12:52] if you took 100,000 out of this, you could take 0.1%
[2:12:56] out of that increase.
[2:12:57] and if you took 200, he'd really take about like 0.2, 2, 2, 3 somewhere in that range.
[2:13:08] But we could be at 6% or 5%.
[2:13:10] Yeah, you could be about 6% to 5.9 depending if you took it.
[2:13:16] But it's a risk.
[2:13:20] I can't tell you for certain that even if we move 50 people, I don't know sure.
[2:13:25] if you could even at this point talk, not from dollar figure, but just from numbers, how
[2:13:31] many people you need above 50 people on a monthly basis, because I know it fluctuates
[2:13:38] with, you know, with the winner and with the summer.
[2:13:42] But that's in terms of something that is going to have an appreciable impact on the budget.
[2:13:49] And this number was a sliding scale move by the judge and meeting to facilitate the
[2:14:02] Haskell contract and offset a line item to get us to this number.
[2:14:07] I can't guarantee you that we'll spend all of it.
[2:14:09] We'll spend at least 1.8 million if we keep the Haskell contract and all 50 people.
[2:14:14] But there's somewhere about $500,000 in there that is for additional housing that we may not need.
[2:14:27] And that could be $200,000 we need, it could be $300,000 we need.
[2:14:35] And that would be a question that, again, I'm kind of saying the same thing over and over.
[2:14:42] But it's a variable I can't give you at this point in time and August.
[2:14:49] 500,000 is a cushion.
[2:14:52] You could push it down to 300,000 and see what we need to do next year with.
[2:15:00] With a budget amendment or something like that, if we, if we have to. But that if, if you're asking me, what line item, this is, this is the one because it's, it's, it's, it's got a bunch of, it's got some estimates that we, that we put together.
[2:15:18] Okay, so for the 6.1 tax increase, and what, what's your, what's the medium value home property that you, you got the sheet you put out?
[2:15:28] What you mean idea what that number is is a 200,000 in what the tax increases for a
[2:15:33] 200,000 dollar.
[2:15:34] So for the median home value, the median home value is 154,889 dollars and that comes from
[2:15:50] The annualized increase for the median home value this year would be at a 6.1 percent effective increase would be $55 and 73 cents annually.
[2:16:08] And
[2:16:14] so, if you're looking at somebody's escrow, like just to put it into, if someone's making a monthly mortgage and they have to pay their property tax in the escrow,
[2:16:27] at that value, the monthly increase, attributable to Potter County's portion of the property taxes would be $4.64 per year.
[2:16:40] for months because it's 5573 anyway okay that's on 154,000 I'll have 154,889 because
[2:16:51] that is the that is the the median home value in Potter County.
[2:17:03] Sierra
[2:17:03] can I see one more question are you planning on since we're doing the high school
[2:17:08] contract are you planning on keeping the contracts with the estimate and
[2:17:11] in everybody too.
[2:17:17] We're not going to do a way with them, but we don't have to pay for anything.
[2:17:22] We would try to feel as many as those beds in the hospital as possible.
[2:17:30] We would like to use that for our TDC ones, because once we get them there, they take them on to TDC.
[2:17:38] I don't know how to worry about that.
[2:17:41] Now, I didn't look to see what the number was,
[2:17:43] but it was like 36 last week
[2:17:45] that we had that were paper ready,
[2:17:46] but we have another 67 million.
[2:17:49] So.
[2:17:49] Well, what is the useful weight champion to take them?
[2:17:52] Come get them.
[2:17:53] Well, I have 45 days to come pick them up.
[2:17:55] Or five days.
[2:17:56] They're pretty good about that.
[2:17:57] Okay.
[2:17:57] Move them out.
[2:17:59] But we're the hub for their paint handle.
[2:18:01] Let's see now.
[2:18:03] Okay.
[2:18:05] Thank you.
[2:18:15] Anybody else have anything else?
[2:18:20] So, Brandon, what do you want to do?
[2:18:25] We're putting everything together in heaven at the meeting.
[2:18:28] Say that one more time?
[2:18:29] One more time?
[2:18:29] One more time?
[2:18:29] One more time?
[2:18:31] One more time?
[2:18:35] Anyone do it today?
[2:18:37] Do it all today?
[2:18:39] Well, I mean, the traditional route that we do is, again, the road map that
[2:18:45] be historically, we've voted to adopt the budget at this meeting.
[2:18:50] If the court is ready to, unless the court is ready to make any other changes or wants to
[2:18:58] consider anything, I mean, the only other thing that I would say in Commissioner Coffee, you brought this up,
[2:19:06] but the last meeting, you know, there's some cleanup costs that are not included in this budget,
[2:19:14] and they're not included in last year's budget.
[2:19:16] I don't know if we even have specifications yet of any idea of what that cost.
[2:19:26] If we're looking at a large number, that would need to come out of the county contingency.
[2:19:34] My suggestion or not contingency, but we have a cleanup line item already prepared to take care
[2:19:43] Anything that would come up and that would just need to come out of fun balance because it's a one-time emergency expenditure
[2:19:50] You wouldn't want to affect the tax rate on that
[2:19:56] Okay
[2:20:00] But the problem with that is, I still don't have any idea what that is going to cost.
[2:20:08] We, I can't make any movement into that 911 deadline because that's where we're going to have all the piles that are going to be removed.
[2:20:15] That's when our deadline is. So I can't even have anybody give us an estimate until that deadline comes and goes.
[2:20:21] So we know, and OEMs can go mark the pile from there we can move forward, but I can't have any movement on that to after that deadline comes and goes.
[2:20:33] So if we were to go off the 6.1 budget today, we still have money in front balance.
[2:20:40] Yeah, but you have to have it on a line item to spend, it does my point.
[2:20:44] And so just because you have, you know, you have $45 million left at the end of the year, you can't spend any of it if you don't have a appropriated line item.
[2:20:53] And so my suggestion is before we adopt the budget that we have some kind of number there
[2:21:00] because once you look that in, I mean, I'm just saying if clean up cost $1,000,000 and you ask me
[2:21:07] where it's going to come from, I'm not going to be able to tell, I'm not going to be able to pull
[2:21:12] that number out of thin air because our county contingency, you need a motion to prove the
[2:21:16] It would need to be an additional line item to, I would say, you know, that you need a motion for a certain amount of money to cover some clean up out in the county related to the stinking fire, and it would be a new line item that would be created, and you need to do it now, not after the budget is adopted.
[2:21:45] So, what would you propose $500,000 or a million?
[2:21:50] I would propose, because it's going to come out of fun balance anyways, that you just put a million dollars there.
[2:21:58] And if you don't spend it, you don't spend it.
[2:22:01] It doesn't affect your tax rate calculation.
[2:22:04] It literally just allows you to pull into your savings for what you need.
[2:22:13] I guess my only concern is that if it ends up even being more than that, I mean, I know
[2:22:19] we've, there's, there are concerns about some, some hazmat material, and there's what could
[2:22:26] drive the price up on that, and that's why I was, I was hopeful by this meeting, we would
[2:22:31] have some kind of, one of my trying to say, all part figure, estimate.
[2:22:42] And so that's the only other, I guess, big item is that, well, you know, if we're going to
[2:22:51] have to be responsible for this, we really do need some kind of a line item to take care
[2:22:58] the cleanup out of flood balance and we need that in the budget before you adopt it.
[2:23:07] Does your work that motion?
[2:23:08] Okay.
[2:23:09] I mean, we take a million dollars out of the fund balance and add it to a line out of
[2:23:12] the budget for this year for cleanup for the station fire.
[2:23:17] Second.
[2:23:18] Have a motion and a second on favoration and on post that passes five to zero.
[2:23:23] The action, do you think there's any way that, because of the ongoing investigation
[2:23:30] on this, that the city may be not the best I'm talking about, this was not I'm happy
[2:23:35] with you saying we'll talk about later, but for us to recover any of these funds, obviously
[2:23:42] the...
[2:23:44] It's a possibility, but it'll just be speculating at this point, and it is probably something
[2:23:49] better if there's a claim that we take that up in executive session.
[2:24:01] So right now, we have the proposed budget to keep the ball moving forward.
[2:24:07] We need to adopt it today, I think that's Brandon's goal.
[2:24:11] So if we can either vote on it or if there are other changes that the court wants to discuss,
[2:24:16] we can take those out.
[2:24:23] Do you have a motion for it to accept the proposed budget 6.1?
[2:24:32] Correct.
[2:24:33] The number the budget at amount would be 94 million 901-273.
[2:24:40] To that again.
[2:24:42] 94 million 901-273.
[2:24:58] That's your motion duration.
[2:25:06] I'm moved there. We accept the budget. 94 million, not a one, two, 73.
[2:25:14] So, have a motion and a second. All in favor. Raise your hand.
[2:25:22] SS5-0.
[2:25:25] All right.
[2:25:27] The second item would be to propose a property tax rate. Again, we're going to have
[2:25:55] I would like you to propose a M&O rate.
[2:26:00] I'm going to ask you to propose three numbers.
[2:26:06] Maintenance and operations rate of 5.5, 8.5, 9.0.
[2:26:16] So that again, 4.585.
[2:26:19] 90.
[2:26:22] A debt service rate of 0.03.
[2:26:28] 6.7.8.
[2:26:46] 4.0.
[2:26:47] 0.585.90.
[2:26:56] You should 9.0.
[2:26:58] Yes, sir.
[2:26:59] And then the total tax rate is just the sum of those two.
[2:27:04] and it's 0.6226-8.
[2:27:20] Good job, I need a motion of that.
[2:27:22] I'm moved to approve of the proposed maintenance rate at 0.58593.
[2:27:29] In an old rate at 0.58590,
[2:27:33] desk service rate at 0.03678.
[2:27:37] For effective tax rate at 0.62628.
[2:27:42] Correction, that's 0.62268.
[2:27:45] One more time.
[2:27:45] Six, two, two, six, eight.
[2:27:47] Oh, sorry.
[2:27:50] Six, two, two, six, eight.
[2:27:52] That's right.
[2:28:00] And I just want to make sure that we got this for the record.
[2:28:03] So your motionless to approve the MNO at 0.58590,
[2:28:08] debt service 0.03670 for a total tax rate of 0.62268.
[2:28:14] Is that correct?
[2:28:15] Correct.
[2:28:15] Okay. Did you want to know?
[2:28:20] Is that the, oh yeah?
[2:28:21] Yeah, I got the imminent.
[2:28:24] Okay. Have a motion. Do I have a second?
[2:28:28] Second?
[2:28:29] Have a motion. Second? All in favor.
[2:28:31] Raise your hand.
[2:28:34] Move in that passes.
[2:28:37] Okay.
[2:28:39] The next thing that we have to do is just announce that we have to set the
[2:28:44] date time in place for the public hearing on the tax rate, the tax increase, and then set the date time in place for the vote on the tax rate.
[2:28:58] And we typically both do these at the same meeting.
[2:29:02] The, that would be September 14th official report at 9 a.m.
[2:29:09] If you do not vote on, at this, at the public hearing that we hope to have the tax rate,
[2:29:20] we would have to re-post the meeting.
[2:29:25] So just be aware.
[2:29:27] Okay.
[2:29:36] Is there anything else we need to do today, Brandon?
[2:29:40] Nope, that's all I had.
[2:29:47] So if we're done, we're done.
[2:29:50] We are adjourned.