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[0:00] Thank you. Thank you.
[0:06] Thank
[0:14] you.
[0:40] we have.
[0:40] You know.
[0:52] That's the little turning board.
[0:55] That's the little turning board.
[0:56] Didn't I just say that I'm not being aware?
[1:01] All right, both of us.
[1:02] I feel opposed.
[1:16] Yeah, I'll pick up.
[1:17] We're enough to all three of us.
[1:18] Not really great big issues.
[1:19] Wrong.
[1:20] Thank you for the whole business that we kind of left off with.
[1:29] We also have a new extension. We're exploring the possibility of widening the road out.
[1:35] Tom Rosen of Request.
[1:37] I was looking through the traffic engineering report and the roadway with
[1:43] of each lane is actually supposed to be eight feet.
[1:46] If you recall, I had measured 13 feet,
[1:50] that narrowest and 15 feet at the widest and also 14 feet in simpleuses of over the course of
[1:58] the road. So we're not even actually at what the engineering report states.
[2:06] You'd asked for a quote, how much it would cost to widen it out, and I've got roughly six loads
[2:13] material, which would be 1,3233 dollars, not including any sort of trucking fees or anything,
[2:21] and then all right 300 gallons would be about 363 dollars, so that doesn't include the
[2:29] expensive equipment or labor rates or anything of that, and sure that's just strictly
[2:36] stricting material costs, sitting room.
[2:41] Still, that's what I'm at with that.
[2:43] It looks like we're already a little bit shy of what this engineering report states.
[2:51] We've got the me on the Senate.
[2:54] Anybody mentioned it?
[2:55] What a public comment, Jerry.
[2:57] Nothing.
[2:58] I'm not saying so.
[2:58] Not saying so.
[3:00] You've been in this book.
[3:01] We haven't changed the chocolate, but you haven't roomed the comments.
[3:03] Now we'll follow the meetings.
[3:05] As I always measuring, taking some different with the measurements, it's still over the course of
[3:11] the road.
[3:12] I wanted to land on her, it was outside, so I spoke to her, she said, do what you got to do,
[3:17] understand you got the right of way, wherever you guys feel like you need to do with that.
[3:21] So that's one of six joining land on her.
[3:27] So I don't think that one or two can speak for remainder of that.
[3:32] Maybe talk to this one.
[3:33] But I didn't go asking everybody until board gave me a direction to go, whether we want to proceed.
[3:42] I didn't mean this.
[3:42] I swear to the one.
[3:44] What's that?
[3:46] It's really not.
[3:48] It's all about part two.
[3:50] What do you think?
[3:51] Or I had to fail.
[3:54] Shoot to the board.
[3:55] I did not do.
[3:56] I did not.
[3:56] I did not.
[3:57] I could
[4:02] try.
[4:02] something you made me doing yourself? Yeah, we would do it. We're just basically going to
[4:07] add gravel to it and then grade it and then roll it and pull right up as needed. I think
[4:13] the shoulders are stiff enough on both sides of that road where we don't really have to go
[4:19] to crazy and excavate a bunch of material out to try to establish anything else in there.
[4:26] I think both, you know, any road should, I think both of you, that what you're planning.
[4:30] According to this town slash village, traffic engineering report,
[4:34] it says that the left side lane is eight feet, and it says the right side lane is eight feet.
[4:41] So we should be at 16 feet.
[4:44] And like I said, we're at 13 to 15 currently.
[4:49] Or what?
[4:51] And we monitor two people said they didn't run off the road and that's what?
[4:54] But it was one person that brought us to my attention, basically two vehicles for a fit, and then they were running off of the long.
[5:02] You know, adding the house down to the end, the business, some are down there, and then they're also having another house under construction down there too.
[5:12] So big vehicles going down.
[5:14] I mean, I haven't sat there to watch to see what's going on.
[5:18] I've actually known, we've only got a cash in mind, well not in real.
[5:21] Yeah, all right, all right.
[5:24] What are you engineering, where is this film from?
[5:28] Is this something we initiate or the state does?
[5:31] That's, honestly, that's a good question.
[5:34] I couldn't tell you who did this.
[5:39] This came from the town clerk's office,
[5:44] and this came from the town clerk's office.
[5:48] Prior to that, I'm not sure if it came from the state.
[5:53] Do we legally have to fulfill this?
[5:59] I have to look into that more, too, before I give it a solid answer.
[6:04] Yes.
[6:05] I send from a complaint that,
[6:09] blaming, had to go off into the water and water.
[6:12] Don't you blame us, you truck?
[6:13] We all know the conditions that it happened the most.
[6:16] Right, so like, this does state some other information as well.
[6:19] It's the legal speed limit of the road is 50 miles an hour because it's not posted otherwise.
[6:25] We know, possibly, safely, you 50 miles an hour down, it's not an air extension.
[6:30] There's no way.
[6:33] Yeah.
[6:34] It's safe.
[6:35] It's also going to see you.
[6:37] It's a traffic engineering study that the town commission at some point.
[6:45] I'm not sure.
[6:46] I mean, for us actually says, if you don't, if you don't find anything with the authority,
[6:51] saying how wide the road is, the road right away is three, right, a three-rad road right away.
[6:57] So I don't think the report that you're citing is a authority of source.
[7:04] I think it was just a, it's meant to me, and the error report that was commissioned.
[7:10] Right, and maybe at that time, they figured that they had eight feet per lane at that time.
[7:15] What do you always have?
[7:18] Another.
[7:20] It's over.
[7:21] 2000.
[7:22] It's going to be September of 2000.
[7:24] Is the date on it?
[7:25] Retriever Island is a recommendation by Robert.
[7:28] I'm going to throw it for anyways.
[7:32] I think that's what it was. I think that's what it was. We know it's not that now. But this is how it will be.
[7:47] Yeah, 2,000, so 26 years ago.
[7:51] I think it's pretty much much the same.
[7:53] Do you anticipate anybody else having this in the roads that we haven't the same issue?
[8:00] Inticipate what?
[8:01] Any other roads like this haven't the same issue or wanting it done?
[8:05] Well, I mean, I think that there's other gravel roads that have a higher...
[8:09] I shouldn't say they have a higher speed than that, because just the league will speed them in at a 50,
[8:13] but they have more blind spots on them and they're more traveled, I would say, and they also
[8:21] have passing issues on them, too. So, how do you-
[8:25] I mean, I mean, just by age at a starting point, this one-
[8:29] This one would be a good choice for your priority if there has to be.
[8:33] If it was my choice, this would not be the top of my purse.
[8:36] That's for us, for us, based off of what I see as I'm out in a battle with the amount of traffic
[8:43] there versus the, you know, what's the risk versus the reward?
[8:47] It takes me to even change that situation, even.
[8:51] Yeah, I mean, in this case, probably two feet, not.
[8:55] So I'm not going to make much of the difference or reality.
[9:00] But there's something that just, I mean, you're right, that road every year.
[9:03] He's very just about everything.
[9:04] Every year, there's something that's add, more material to every year, and just
[9:09] then it gradually build it out like they're trying to improve all the roads.
[9:12] Yeah, we could slowly, we could slowly do a, you know, over time and make it a little bit wider and put a little bit of a crown on the road for drainage.
[9:23] That's probably the same.
[9:24] Yeah.
[9:25] So I'm going out.
[9:27] Do the whole.
[9:30] Um, you, you know, and we'll get about three inches of, of, of, of compaction at a time in many ways.
[9:35] When the three of us that's not like we can just go dump two feet worth of material on the road.
[9:40] And then say, oh, here you go.
[9:42] There's a new roadway, you know we get to build it up a little bit, compact it and then you know widen it out, or either
[9:54] Yeah, I'm just meeting just saying
[9:59] Default to the state speed limit of $59
[10:02] Would you even need like a more motion to just slowly add
[10:08] in the road that's air and floats closer to the appropriate.
[10:12] That's not really, and that's probably not even measurable as far as I think if you're
[10:17] creating it anymore.
[10:18] I think there's a good possibility that as people as landowners see that they're losing
[10:23] more of their long, they're going to, you know, they're going to question that.
[10:27] Nobody wants to lose word, it doesn't enough in life, so why are we taking it?
[10:30] I think they're like the board, we've got a unsafe passing complaint and we're trying to
[10:37] just...
[10:38] We're trying to take some of your land.
[10:40] Just as we have the right of way, we're going to have to write it on the side of the site.
[10:44] Yeah, it's out of a public safety concern.
[10:49] So, yeah, we could totally add to it over time.
[10:53] You know, I could pronounce make it wider, but we'll all crown them real, but not.
[11:02] Any questions?
[11:08] So, I guess there's not, there's probably a bit of a brief hint that anybody else can invite you about it.
[11:14] Yeah, okay.
[11:17] Barnum Road.
[11:19] I've looked through this book.
[11:20] I've looked on multiple different maps.
[11:22] It includes some of the maps that I used for road segments.
[11:25] There were road erosion in the Tori and the Colbert in the Tori.
[11:29] And everybody still has farmland at different lengths.
[11:32] You know, what the proper spelling of farm road is.
[11:35] I might favor called me.
[11:37] Probably it is the tell people has spelled it for either end of it.
[11:40] And it is if you look at road signs.
[11:43] And that's going to be one, one, and says.
[11:46] Say that on the farm name.
[11:49] So I've seen it.
[11:50] Farm them with a UM, we'll have seen it.
[11:53] Farm ham.
[11:54] And I've seen it.
[11:55] Farm ham.
[11:57] And really, a little back to find out what the owner of the original house
[12:00] is.
[12:00] Different maps.
[12:02] Everybody shows something different.
[12:04] I'll check things.
[12:05] This book shows it being spelled with a U.
[12:09] I think that's not likely.
[12:10] And then there's all I'm ever one house on that, I'm sure that family games far and I'll be
[12:16] going to try to look in the brand. That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah, it just seems silly.
[12:23] I was putting a sign over to the other and it seems silly to have a room that's like,
[12:27] if we don't know what we're doing then. It's probably part of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess so.
[12:36] Okay, let's start killing it. Yeah, or drivers I'd keep your told me that or actually I believe
[12:40] right down the road. So that was a light, a light-hurted question of mine. The roadside
[12:49] mallar is broken as a break in the rear axle, and the casting around the mallar deck is
[12:59] broken. We're looking at $17,000 worth of repairs on the roadside mallar, which if you
[13:09] When we bought the smaller, we set aside the remainder of the money from the previous sense
[13:16] and with the previous motor to use just for repairs or things that we need for this motor.
[13:24] This would be more than the window, not having to rob from any other portion of the budget,
[13:30] but it's also basically going to deplete that amount.
[13:32] So are these that wear and tear from some of it as you wear and tear and others as far as the crack of the axle, we're not sure if that's the design because it's right around where the cradle that holds the boom is we're not sure if it's if it's a core design or if the crack was pre existing and just over time going down the road with it in the cradle if if it's pronounced that crack a little bit more and you know
[14:02] We grease it pretty regularly or routinely and you could actually the reason that the guy's found it was because the grease is actually protruding out of the crackle of the cell
[14:14] Oh, the go-house and learn the ethics it's gonna go to capital tractor tomorrow
[14:19] capital tractor of green which they turn around there. I mean
[14:24] There's thinking a couple weeks, but also if you recall we did we did some favors for wells in the past
[14:32] So Wells has actually started today, roadside and the wing to get us back, just back in shape, and they're doing one pass and all the gravel roads right now.
[14:42] They actually get quite a few roads done today.
[14:46] So sometimes helping your neighbor out, you know, sometimes you do, sometimes you do get things back out of that.
[14:54] So how old is that more?
[14:55] R.S.A. 2012.
[15:00] And how much is, how much like, how much are they doing? Well, obviously a ton.
[15:07] It's well, around $100,000. It's still, because 14 years old, 17, 18, 18.
[15:14] And they don't know, you know, actual item, anything?
[15:18] That's, that's fixing the axle. It'll be the right thing side, because you can remove just the other thing inside.
[15:23] Like here, vehicle axle, where you get something's wrong with the axle,
[15:28] self-identire place the whole thing. You take that right hand inside of the axle off and put
[15:34] in it. And we don't believe that the actual axle is on.
[15:40] This would be the axle shaft of the
[15:42] axle itself. Can I don't believe that there's damage to the axle itself? Nothing that's bent. It's
[15:47] just a stress crack in the cast. It's cast iron. And it's like age. I don't know much about rules
[15:55] more stuff like it's appropriate for both of that and the
[15:58] bulletin here all along.
[16:04] I mean, I mean, I mean, all of the
[16:05] button to buy anything. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't
[16:08] pick things up. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I just mean, like,
[16:12] how soon is all you need to do when I'm okay? Yeah.
[16:17] I don't have a lot of
[16:17] experience for the roadside Morris. I mean, the roadside
[16:20] morning thing is this new to us. Okay. You know, if it is it
[16:25] is it something you can be out and in patch up? And then I know
[16:28] more water jackets that gets done fairly commonly, successfully, is something that can be
[16:36] detailed. Can you ask them when you drop it off to say? Yeah, I mean, I can ask them about it.
[16:42] They just came up with it, folks, since I came back from vacation, we haven't had a chance to speak
[16:47] about it early since I, since they emailed me a quote, I did just printed off to present to you
[16:53] what I have where I'm out. Maybe they'll say it's really good. No, I want you to fix it and it's good.
[16:57] Yeah.
[16:58] And the tendency of your question, I don't know that that might be possible.
[17:02] I don't have to have that kind of.
[17:03] It's a real outing type of the fact that it would be up and the flip of things.
[17:07] That's successful.
[17:08] Basically just a little.
[17:09] It's a little threase.
[17:10] If it wasn't cast, we would well, well, always.
[17:13] It's for sure but I don't, I don't want to do something that.
[17:18] But it falls into the same sort of the cast that our block actually got when it get fixed
[17:23] now.
[17:23] Okay.
[17:23] the same thing. It can be successful, cheaper, less than $1,000 for Ali.
[17:32] Yeah, I'll certainly ask him if it's a possibility for, so that's where I would
[17:37] run to the North and North and North and North. We're currently, we started grandson aid this week today.
[17:45] We got a calmer, at the, on Lewis Road, at the intersection of Lewis and Walker Road, we just
[17:51] of that intersection, most road, 54 feet of callover, 18 inch callover that replaced today.
[17:59] We've got a little bit more stuff to do on the east facing side of the list road, and
[18:05] our $35,500 worth of the grants and aid this year, only going into 2,100 meter road segments.
[18:13] Going to be at that, what we just did today, plus some road stabilization on the other side,
[18:19] where the road is really soft to do to some swampy wet land.
[18:24] And then the other one is over on Hillside Road,
[18:27] Vivekan Pond, Phenomit has been viler
[18:29] and seen the markings all over the asphalt and stuff.
[18:33] That's where it has changed that call,
[18:34] where it becomes, it's basically the overflow call
[18:37] for Vivekan Pond, goes on an East Hillside Road there.
[18:41] That's a 36 inch call, or I don't recall.
[18:45] Or I put it in Florida for length,
[18:47] but it does have to be sleigh low on her that currently has, because that culverts not great.
[18:54] So, and then you said, that'll wrap up, that'll ramp, wrap off this year's grants and
[19:00] aid. Yes. And we have till September 30th to complete that. I've everything submitted.
[19:08] Yes, it won't. That's okay. Yeah. So, um, I don't have a date. It will not be on a transfer
[19:16] station today. We're not going to do that. But next week, more than likely Monday, Wednesday,
[19:28] or month, it's going to be Monday, Wednesday, and that's where we're going to do night work.
[19:32] We're going to have to change that call over there so that portion of health side will be
[19:35] close. But we will put some signage up ahead of time, weather permitting, obviously.
[19:42] And then we'll also put on these healer and the other website as well and then wrap up the
[19:51] grass in aid and then if you follow, you follow the site route up just past the Lewis Road
[19:57] intersection. There's a call work that goes diagonally on any hillside road from that little
[20:02] V there and then it goes off to the east side of the road and trains out. It probably goes into
[20:09] that bait and pond, we're going to check the condition of that call work because if we're going
[20:14] to do all this work to do the fold-up for a pollination next year, I don't want to put fresh
[20:19] pavement down over a failing calmer and then have to dig it up two years later, that doesn't
[20:24] say to rip out 16 inches of material, put a bunch of fresh material in and say, it really
[20:31] should change the call work before. So this part of the proactive plan, and if we have to do that,
[20:39] will also try to get the word out ahead of time or post something, you know, put some signs out.
[20:47] So, let's see what we did with 140 last year, only did all that. We'll just put the signs out.
[20:55] Robably close here this date and kind of in a time frame,
[21:02] then everybody is aware of where to be.
[21:08] Unless anybody else has any questions that is what I've got for tonight.
[21:12] Thanks for going to the emergency management plan, we'll play after you get to this, we'll be able to sit down and talk conversation about that too.
[21:20] Thank you very much.
[21:22] Thank you very much.
[21:23] Thank you very much.
[21:26] Setting up a shelter for us.
[21:30] We get them out of the building.
[21:32] We get them out of the building.
[21:33] No, there was nobody else from home in there.
[21:37] It was held at the Castle of the American Legion.
[21:39] Basically it was, they changed this, they changed this,
[21:44] This month's emergency management meeting from next Wednesday is wanted to do that meeting this this past
[21:53] Lee can said so that everybody could kind of get some this idea is how we would go about setting up the shelter
[22:00] and with the legalities are of having a shelter whether it's warming, cooling, natural disaster, any sort of emergency even
[22:11] You know, if anybody's aware that building partially collapsed and very even right at the intersection of River Street, 228,
[22:19] and they had to contact through across for that.
[22:24] These are people who are relocated.
[22:26] So if anything, it could be anything small, shouldn't say small.
[22:30] All because it affects somebody's life, but as small as a partial collapse of a building, right up to a major disaster, so.
[22:37] That's a good thing.
[22:38] We'll go to any different things.
[22:40] Yeah, good to get into the whole place.
[22:43] Thank you, George.
[22:44] Thank you.
[22:47] Do.
[22:48] Yeah.
[22:51] All on a community's development.
[22:55] Got another meeting tomorrow with regional planning commission.
[22:59] And the contract is on the Merck project.
[23:04] We had a meeting with Vermont Polling General Services.
[23:08] Last week, they had some comments that they made on the scuffle work.
[23:14] And tomorrow, I think, we're going to...
[23:17] We have to have the contract, the final contract signed at the end of September.
[23:23] I think tomorrow we'll be meeting that and we'll have a contract for that and then we'll
[23:30] start being able to keep asking me you know once once I work and you get done you know
[23:37] I'm good at the clothes et cetera so we're going to start having those conversations after
[23:42] your flash tomorrow. It's going to take it in cold.
[23:47] Thanks.
[23:53] Thanks.
[23:54] You expect that to go fine? I guess it's just fine lining all of them.
[23:58] Yeah, yeah.
[23:59] Yeah, yeah.
[24:01] Everything looks good.
[24:02] I think so.
[24:03] Yep.
[24:06] I just kind of know here on the personal policy and the attorney's office did reach out to me
[24:11] last week, and they're working on getting us a model for our, you know, for our, to start a discussion on the update of the personal policy. I think they would, you know, this was summer, a lot of people were on vacation. So, we still are on the radar. I did put the notice out for this like word or agency, because of publishing and timing, I've given.
[24:41] the end of 14th of September 21st is related to have my English adventures, and then
[24:49] we're eating here after it one board will.
[24:54] You have to put the names on record of who
[25:01] had a lot of bits, some of the other interests in the point, someone. So, should be by the
[25:07] 20s to be in the 20s. If we have people that are interested, we'll be at the time when
[25:14] this board would make a decision on who don't want to.
[25:19] And remainder of bells, Karen was.
[25:23] Yeah, Mark, shut down. We saw them.
[25:33] Nothing yet.
[25:35] And we're seeing everything.
[25:36] And I was telling people that just because she had that term, they would finish her
[25:40] the government and they would still have to run in much without the corrects, is that we can question one of the best.
[25:46] Yeah.
[25:46] The same.
[25:49] Yeah.
[25:49] Yeah.
[25:49] Yeah.
[25:49] Question about
[25:56] that.
[26:00] Well, I do know that we discussed, I know the topic came up several times about the sidewalk and the elementary school, while it's not.
[26:13] You know, under this board's review review, let's see, I can't report where I found a board would like me to, I would.
[26:26] I'm biased, I gotta get into our business.
[26:29] Or on the other side of what?
[26:34] We're into the state,
[26:38] the person that you may have followed us, I don't know if he's an engineer, but he's in charge of the project.
[26:45] Let's see,
[26:48] if we see feedback from a couple of contractors on the last contract that no one bit on.
[26:56] And a couple of the contractors said it was due to the short completion date, they wanted
[27:03] to do the work.
[27:06] They wanted to have done before the returning to school, which I've seen it happen.
[27:11] I'm planning to re-actify this file for the work to be completed next summer.
[27:17] I'm going to try to bid.
[27:19] There's another project in Pittsburgh.
[27:21] I'm going to try to bid those together.
[27:26] Okay, specifically asked if there's an expiration date completion date that might be from this project.
[27:33] It's intended that he said there's no expiration date.
[27:37] Actually, no, he didn't answer that part of the question.
[27:39] He said, well, not hard dates intended to be prior to the end.
[27:43] The start of school in August of 2027.
[27:47] So they plan they hope they'll have contractives by August of 2027 and the project will be done by then.
[27:53] Cool.
[27:54] I asked the question came up a lot in the round with local contractors and the response was potential contractors will need to be pre-qualified for this type of work with V-trans through the ID IQ program and their local contractors will need to get pre-qualified and they are invited to do so and once approved, they would be welcome to be on this project once it's advertised.
[28:23] Thanks, Paul.
[28:27] Not like I just finished something, but maybe I have to clarify it.
[28:31] I'm happy with everything.
[28:32] I'll take it.
[28:32] The local guys if they need to have their V-chair on that lake.
[28:36] Okay.
[28:36] We'll do this.
[28:43] Again, I guess I'll just mention it.
[28:47] Even though it's in the village,
[28:48] Julie Cookoff is 26th of September.
[28:53] And like every year, with the cooperation of the assistance of the village,
[28:59] DVW streets will be closed,
[29:03] the Main Street will be closed, like it has been in the fast.
[29:11] I've communicated with the Roland County Sheriff's Office to make sure we have the deputy.
[29:19] For us had to come back to remember, but quickly it will be turned around times sufficient for them.
[29:27] Um, I think Alan is, if you can know, maybe you're ready to go for that.
[29:35] Oh, good.
[29:35] But I'll be to you later.
[29:36] Like when they last year, four or two, so that's the, that's all to tell you.
[29:41] You're going to say, Alan's been chilling.
[29:43] I think you'd want to begin.
[29:45] If you see events signs that we had to have a focus, the road.
[29:50] You took a meal last year.
[29:51] You could go to a couple of times a year.
[29:52] But we have a pre-made sign that are kind of special to that.
[29:55] and then faster, they're harder to trust, not to come down that way.
[30:06] A little bit just a touch face on the storm bridge, thank you for the member that we have put a temporary
[30:14] second there. We're still waiting to hear back from the Federation Trust on a plan on the forward for a
[30:23] permanent solution. We also found some a little bit of roof work that needs to be done.
[30:34] And while I try to find someone in the past to address the shutters, the shutters are getting a little quite bad shave.
[30:46] So I was hoping to find someone to dip them,
[30:51] but company in Vermont that used to do it doesn't do it anymore.
[30:54] But I'm going to have to be screened, that's the first something.
[30:56] Well, I think if these tips, I'm going to say come up to the back,
[31:00] basically, you know, think you'll go off.
[31:03] But it was a place in our own team that used to do it.
[31:06] They don't do it anymore.
[31:10] I've considered seeing, you can find huge shoulders.
[31:14] But things like, why are people looking at the shows?
[31:17] They're like built up, they're like, there's a layer of paint on there.
[31:20] Like probably because paint and all the things that didn't change for more.
[31:23] It's more of a society that I wouldn't love, it's just, but you know what I'm talking about.
[31:29] I haven't talked about it, they might let us pop all the ones I have.
[31:34] I can't even do like vinyl.
[31:35] No, I don't think I can.
[31:38] No, I can't.
[31:39] No, I can't.
[31:39] I don't think I can do that.
[31:40] I don't think I can do that.
[31:41] I don't think I can.
[31:41] I don't think I can do that.
[31:42] I don't think I can do that.
[31:43] over there.
[31:47] You know, I was that, you know, now they would, um, if I found some that were the same
[31:53] that are there, that were worried that aren't covered in, you know, 800 years, we have to
[31:59] like replicate the, oh yeah, yeah, that's quite a few, but it's not like it's just a fun
[32:03] quite a few years ago.
[32:06] I actually adore it, right? I think something done. I was told with that.
[32:10] We made a screen door, we're working on finding a period, I guess, a period that I'm
[32:18] now I'm going to reduce the number of other screen doors.
[32:21] That's way more intense than I would have thought.
[32:23] Yeah, I have. I think we found one of the, I don't know if he's, if he's had a chance to look
[32:28] at that, yeah, that one that I basically pulled out the smallest truck that they're going to
[32:34] So that's not what we can work on.
[32:37] We're going to use it for.
[32:40] Just go over and do that.
[32:42] Like, who did a approval date?
[32:45] She worked from the preservation process.
[32:47] We have a yearly inspection.
[32:50] And then she generates a report on the system.
[32:54] That doesn't happen.
[32:54] Yeah.
[32:55] It's good.
[32:56] I like it.
[32:57] The other thing that maybe I told the board about is sort of in conjunction with
[33:03] of the steps is those pillars on the side of the front porch on the snow sensor.
[33:10] Yeah, just full of water on the view.
[33:14] And I've asked the start of the society because they based on migration trust
[33:19] for me, if I find historical pictures, because we think maybe it was either slay or marble,
[33:30] There are those cappers on the things in a picture of a program. Right. So, I don't know if they look, the circle side did look. I have that I do have a vintage photo from
[33:42] You know, they start before the new office. You're right. I just can't see. You can't tell what's there.
[33:47] You're amazing things will be awesome. I'm not saying that. Okay, but yeah, so I mean, they are worth it. That's an issue and it's every, I mean,
[33:58] every year every other year you have to do something because it would brought to me so it's
[34:02] is there any sort of like hey we get it's like this you know there's a reason we do
[34:06] things a little different to a hundred years later than life well you know there's some you
[34:11] know there I think I've had my duty I think we had especially about using when we talked about that
[34:19] be woods I think I think say I'm writing I think day three that that is an
[34:29] approach and we could take or I think there's another seat or like another
[34:35] article or I mean for the fall lock I got it I was like
[34:40] what is pretty much pretty pretty a six minutes okay pretty past year
[34:45] would. That's the thing and can be composite, can be pressure treated, can be natural in general
[34:53] or it has to be sunny a little. It has to be wood. Yeah. There's a nice morale product that's
[34:58] actually made out of organic ash. That stuff is almost a little instructible. Yeah, from
[35:02] probably if you want to share it with me, I didn't, unless not wood, it's a volcanic ash product,
[35:08] but it's a natural. Yeah, I can get different. I'm happy to try to, you know, get more size,
[35:14] I'm trying to get some options as I should say.
[35:17] Well, just look at the piece of it.
[35:19] And I just think a nice, I think it would look nice too.
[35:22] I don't have to be that.
[35:24] You wouldn't put money into that every two years.
[35:27] You know, painting, hiding stuff.
[35:29] Yes, this is great.
[35:30] Someone put a piece of slate on there from the slate company.
[35:33] And had their name with that deep possible since it's historic.
[35:36] And sweet.
[35:37] Don't eat it.
[35:38] I think you had a comment to me.
[35:42] Not long, comment, regarding the standards.
[35:45] Just like donation.
[35:47] Thank you, Debbie.
[35:53] System of the largest and words regarding the steps on the stomach.
[35:56] I mean, we can just ask you a link swine in there.
[35:58] Wait, Dr. Ms. Swine.
[36:00] When we do this now.
[36:02] We have no place for years about steps.
[36:04] Lines on that during the years they lived there.
[36:06] The steps were wooden.
[36:08] Okay, thank you, Dennis.
[36:10] I have this hard to see the top of it. You can't see it from a distance, but you can't see it like I think it is just one
[36:18] If you want to live in Laos later pieces don't fix it without a lot, you know, we also need to see it
[36:24] In the lane swing here lives in California. She probably has four rows
[36:29] Yeah, yes, I was just going to comment that she spoke to Lane and the lane said while they live there was always wood
[36:35] Yeah, so
[36:37] I mean, it's just, I think it was a historic sign, hasn't, but they're just so far with
[36:41] it's nothing like, so you can't really see what it's made of, because it's changed a little bit.
[36:47] So it's really hard to keep, like, was there something on there?
[36:49] Well, they can only have, just fine, fine, fine ones that paint about every five years.
[36:56] I don't like every two years.
[36:58] Yeah, I mean, the route is not a structural product, but I mean, in a transit situation,
[37:02] on the hemlocks almost last forever. Like he said, the locusts is almost better than
[37:09] cedar, but yeah, fine, it's definitely definitely not a thing. That's what they want, apparently.
[37:17] Wow, what is going to mean there? I think they're one of these here. You have to waste your money on this.
[37:23] I mean, it's probably taking it to some, it's like, follow some U.S., that's where I go by the side.
[37:30] for one of the meetings.
[37:31] All right. Well, thank you. Well, there's one thing you want to hear.
[37:35] And I still have certain coverage in it.
[37:39] We might check it on that.
[37:40] Oh, I don't think.
[37:41] That's good.
[37:42] That's good.
[37:44] Great. Thank you.
[37:47] I'll ask you anything else.
[37:48] Thank you.
[37:55] I continue to look for your appointment.
[37:59] It's good to have a conversation.
[38:02] I had a couple of interviews, a couple of board members joined the interview, and we had hired somebody, and they were offered another job, some were full-time patients, and so yeah.
[38:16] Before they even start the quick, basically.
[38:21] There have been a couple of war that I'm trying to learn about, where this lead, Jeremy from the village has been covering,
[38:31] I'm only also on vacation last week.
[38:38] His supervisor talked to him, and we'll talk to him in a minute, which is how
[38:42] I want to help him.
[38:45] And I need to just to talk with Jeremy, because I think he's wanted to sort of
[38:49] at least we are here.
[38:51] We need to cover guy.
[38:53] If we, professionally, do find someone much better we do.
[38:57] You know, he's willing to continue to cover where we don't have someone out there.
[39:02] a safe set of AIDS things. Special service, yeah. And even on Tuesday,
[39:06] Ferris A, you've loaned it. And the village is willing to let him, you know,
[39:11] run up and something needs to be compacted and giving me that or to this
[39:15] third of the day. And this is posted on indeed,
[39:19] stuff like this. It is. What was the safer path?
[39:22] It's a variable. Yeah. I think it's like 20,
[39:26] I mean, you know, there's some five or something on the background, but you know, I've had a couple of this weekend as a guy would go through.
[39:36] I think, I mean,
[39:41] I'm trying to find some of the, well, that at least my paper looks like, let's say they're for a while because I got lots of.
[39:49] You know, three of my theater, two of my Sarah,
[39:51] Republicans.
[39:54] So, I mean, with Jeremy helping us think,
[39:58] I feel like we're not desperate until I.
[40:03] And a lot of people have to ask me,
[40:05] why can we just swoop for the adjourning,
[40:07] to hear from the answer that I have again?
[40:10] Because, you know, he's a good knowledge and quality too,
[40:12] so.
[40:13] Absolutely.
[40:13] We're talking like some sort of hybrid position.
[40:17] Or like,
[40:18] we did talk about. We could help Joel on. That's nice to talk about. That's nice to talk about.
[40:24] The years now.
[40:29] It seems like it's the three days a week, so it's scared of people.
[40:32] Like no one wants to commit it full time to our time job. Some people don't go retired or
[40:37] go into it. Yeah, we just wanted to protest like. The sky was kind of... I mean,
[40:50] He had no idea that he did a bunch of jobs.
[40:53] So he thought, let him work out, which is fun.
[40:57] I understand, I can totally understand.
[40:59] Oh, thank you.
[41:00] It was supposed to, but I know it's becoming,
[41:03] someone was going to ask me, so,
[41:07] it's going to be more sure.
[41:09] And I'm going to ask you one more year.
[41:10] I would leave with Texas coming.
[41:12] Head of Paul with the attorney's office
[41:14] Thanks for asking, um, stuff new. Um, the, the apparently goes down here last week, maybe they'll be before and I'll time them players. Um, because right stage now or they do what they call it.
[41:34] So, you know, if it's taxpayer A, and if they have a more age, you know, a more
[41:42] company A, now, before the taxpayer got to notice a letter saying, hey, you know, you
[41:49] got to hear your option to do payment plan. Now let's say a letter of your, now you're moving
[41:56] on the next page, as far as the tax sales, with a layer to go not only taxpayer, but also
[42:04] to any of the leanholders. And in the past, I've seen that be effective for the leanholder
[42:11] to set up. So, you know, there's a couple that we have, we have to massage a little bit,
[42:23] But I wanted to protect it that we had in the size of a little bit, so I had a conversation
[42:30] with the attorney this afternoon and late morning about that particular one.
[42:37] So we're moving along into the next phase.
[42:41] Um,
[42:43] the, the, the, the, what was done to date was on, um, the town was on my
[42:54] dime, basically, in the town's time, from here on now, uh, if it's, you know, if it's, let's
[42:59] say, you know, if it, you're the taxpayer, now it's, if it's gone to the attorney, now it's,
[43:05] your obligation to pay a certain percentage,
[43:08] turkeys, these, if you want to remove yourself
[43:12] from the process, oh,
[43:17] it's not, and that cost isn't born
[43:20] by the time, per se, born by the taxpayer that is
[43:23] called you the next phase of it, every sense.
[43:29] Right, we have, we've had a few kind of plan,
[43:32] I think that wanting to think of fulfill their obligations and a couple of them that we've had that work with and I think I said that I've been trying to work in that order in good faith.
[43:45] There are trying, it's, you know, the struggle for everybody, I think.
[43:51] Do we know?
[43:52] How do we compare to like, for anyone casting something like that?
[43:56] Is it a big, boldly, for all of them?
[43:58] Do you know anything about like, wrong counting numbers?
[44:00] I don't know, I should ask you attorney in a dark anecdotally today because if you recall from
[44:08] conversations with me, please I hear that the laws regarding tax don't want to go into tax
[44:15] collection change in the last couple of years and he feels I agree with him that it's the way
[44:27] the law is written now is vague enough that it's what someone in the legal world would say is
[44:35] right for a litigation for someone maybe a taxpayer to say that wasn't a reasonable offer
[44:43] or you know that that wasn't a language used as like reasonable and so like it's opinion made
[44:51] So, you know, I mean, and I agree with the attorney that some point probably some tax
[44:56] magazine to say, this wasn't reasonable.
[45:00] What they offer me, and then they're going to say, of course, can you just tell us what the law makes you from what's a law in the end?
[45:13] So, it's a working part, but it's sort of like the storm bridge steps, it's like it's not that over the big thing, unfortunately.
[45:19] one step or a cost of $1.00, but if you go into it too, we're rather than
[45:25] getting to the turning like every year.
[45:28] Well, so if you remember, you have to be at least two years to 11.00 now.
[45:36] So, I mean, there's a bunch of people that have not gone to 11.00 or the
[45:40] fifth year that just ended, that's their only limit here, then the
[45:46] The rest of the taxpayers have to carry that for, you know, until they're two years
[45:51] left and so, you know, I don't really know how to answer that question.
[45:54] It's really based on, it was like, like, that would be a weird other talent, probably.
[45:59] Why is not, when the last time they did attack, so it was, it was probably.
[46:04] Yeah, I swear.
[46:05] I haven't done it.
[46:08] I haven't done it.
[46:09] I haven't done it.
[46:10] I don't know.
[46:10] I don't know the answer to that.
[46:11] Yeah, it was curious.
[46:12] Like everybody's dealing with this.
[46:15] We're going to do a lot more of this in the last five or six years, but I would assume more of the legalties.
[46:23] No, thanks.
[46:24] I think it's, I mean, if you ask for my perspective,
[46:33] is it, um,
[46:42] It's short, which couldn't clear and create border, it couldn't seize easier.
[46:46] It's trying to balance.
[46:49] You know, when I started, whatever it was, almost 10 years ago, it was that town was
[46:55] carrying a lot of talented taxes and we tackled it and you know, I think we had to go
[47:03] it for our,
[47:06] but you, I don't know if you've seen some of the minutes, but I think in a recent
[47:11] meeting, I think, certainly for you to come, you know, you came to a meeting. I mean, I was going through
[47:19] some old records in high-solve. I saw at least one name in the 1970s. I just wonder if this has
[47:27] hard to do with why we've seen the increases, the lack of tax face that we're collecting,
[47:32] of those two sides that was called, you know, I haven't done any analysis. I mean, to me,
[47:40] if you look at the trend, it's been a pretty consistent sense. I've been here at least
[47:45] how many dollars was? Yeah. Yeah. And the problem is, some of them say we came to a place that
[47:51] just never get caught up, they were consistently. Yeah. I mean, when I started, there was some
[47:57] people that said, well, I have a panic plan and, you know, I said this table with them
[48:03] and said that you paying $100 a month, it's not a payment plan, you know, I'm not laughing
[48:12] to make a little of it just a little through. Just it's, you know, there's what I remember
[48:17] vividly, there was one lady that said, well, Jonas said, if I made this payment, I said,
[48:22] You want, well, sit down and do the math.
[48:25] You want to take you six years to pay off.
[48:28] You don't want to pay taxes.
[48:30] Just, which is whatever fine.
[48:32] But if you don't pay them as we don't do your own business,
[48:35] then a little bit of credit for your pay.
[48:38] So it's difficult.
[48:41] And I understand, you know, it's a bill that's
[48:45] that's difficult for you to look at, you know,
[48:48] we all have to hurry and guess.
[48:51] Thanks, Paul.
[48:53] Thank you.
[48:53] I'll be a little further.
[48:56] And it's good, Paul.
[48:58] I'm late.
[48:59] Come on, man.
[49:00] Where do you look at these?
[49:00] I'll mind first.
[49:03] There's no more hands up.
[49:05] No, there's no chat.
[49:07] Thanks.
[49:07] Whatever the call.
[49:08] Chat bubbles.
[49:09] Anybody here?
[49:11] Comments?
[49:13] It's it.
[49:14] Thanks for coming.
[49:15] Questions from me?
[49:16] With the links, I'll let you leave too.
[49:17] Thank you.
[49:18] I guess I'll stay here guys.
[49:20] I'm not petitioned, I showed you last week. There's 270,000, I'm sure, probably about 15,000, I'm
[49:27] terrified, but still a bit of Mount property owners,
[49:33] Karen Bolich and I filled the
[49:36] mechanics commission in on Wednesday. I know that I'd ask to be guys for a year, but
[49:43] for this, I'd love a short-term run. I'd like to know, honestly, because I know the slight
[49:49] or keeps when commissioner and check, you guys oversee them.
[49:53] I think we always see them.
[49:54] I can't say that we can give you our opinion now.
[49:56] I think we have to wait.
[49:57] They go to complain in commission.
[49:58] Obviously, it has to look at all the things that you brought to them, having discussion
[50:02] about it, and what they do is they come to us with what they feel is the best, and then would
[50:05] weigh it and say, OK, this is it, and then would make a decision.
[50:09] So it's not something we can just say, that's my decision.
[50:11] I think you're right, you're wrong.
[50:12] I don't feel comfortable that the work could do that.
[50:14] I think for planning commission, you'll meet with them.
[50:16] You'll have that discussion about maybe they'll say,
[50:19] we, you know, we're going to put on hold. Maybe we'll say this is what we're going to do.
[50:23] They bring Matt to us and talk to us about it. And then we would make a, I mean, I don't know,
[50:28] maybe part of our response to what you're asking me is, they did pay here. Here's a,
[50:35] here's a process. If you want, we'll need to thank. Yeah, we gave him IML Jamie before, I probably
[50:43] month or so ago. So she has, I know they said they're collecting like written a feed
[50:48] that. So I can't remember if my exact word.
[50:51] And then I say they can certainly help things like that pop up. I made a couple of people
[50:56] across my yard and kind of like with the complaining or the dirt, road widening. I mean,
[51:02] one lady got ran off her own. I mean, that's those words are highly interpretable and, you
[51:07] know, that we have engineers being involved in giving you know auto reports and it's just
[51:13] funny how these things can really take quite a bit of our time and resources if it's a
[51:18] you happen the way you put it on. What is the answer to you as a little thing? We have
[51:21] spent any money off. Well no, no, just how it pops up from a complaint like some
[51:25] make complaints and then we got people measuring your own. Yeah, but how much money is it cost us
[51:30] to discuss it tonight? Well no, but just you know obviously some of these like I've got
[51:36] ran off the road perhaps. That's part of the process is that people come to us and we're like
[51:41] Okay, we have to have to have a discussion, and then we have a discussion about it, see, okay, a degree, a disagree, and then we have a vote on it. So that's a whole nice thing about the planning commission. We'll do all that and have that, then we'll come to us and we'll have it saying this.
[51:53] Is there a plan where some things are interchangeable, or we just kind of entertain any crazy, you know, because of our footsteps spreading with that thing.
[52:01] I mean, I think that if you look at this body, we're here for the people, that's if you get on the board like this, you're here to hear the concerns from
[52:12] I trip over a little pebble on the rock to, you know, I'm having these major issues that are
[52:18] really concerning.
[52:19] Right now.
[52:20] And, you know, I know sometimes it can feel like a drug so I can have all these discussions,
[52:24] but that's, that's what public service is.
[52:28] Yeah.
[52:28] There's definitely, there's a threshold.
[52:30] If it was like Joel was like, it's gonna cost us 30 grand a new engineer study on Wilson Aft. We would probably not. We'd nipped in the bottom of that.
[52:37] Yeah. But like at this point, it's just discussion. He's even doing diligence.
[52:40] No, no, no. I mean, I feel like somebody already did that for us.
[52:45] Oh, yeah, whatever.
[52:46] Right. That's what I'm referring to.
[52:47] Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.
[52:48] Well, I mean, if you're talking about this, your part of Joel was referring to, I mean,
[52:54] Well, I was changed in 25 years since that part was done, as far as just how many houses you're on the road now.
[53:03] So what maybe makes sense.
[53:08] I mean, one thing I've heard Joel say that it's concerning to me is that we don't have a post.
[53:13] It speaks to me on that road.
[53:15] for a long time. Yeah, I can count five and far enough three days and five and five.
[53:20] So that one is, you know, that's in my mind from what he just said earlier.
[53:25] That that's really shouldn't be something that.
[53:28] Of course, like, why, nor is it all keeps the lead walls out.
[53:31] Why, but I know, I know, but, you know, in theory, you could drive down that road and say, well,
[53:38] I'm not posted.
[53:39] I was like, yeah, sure.
[53:40] I'm going to go on 15.
[53:46] There's that angle to it.
[53:47] Who is like, once it becomes stated, it's like, okay, well, the roads technically
[53:53] not for a supposed to be too lame.
[53:55] It's technically narrow.
[53:57] So like, who's the blame of two cars, both?
[53:59] It's like that.
[54:00] So there's some of this kind of, kind of, of, of, of trying to protect everybody.
[54:03] or liability and stuff.
[54:06] Oh, I just read.
[54:09] Hey, Joel.
[54:11] Do you want to know or not?
[54:13] Yeah.
[54:13] Okay.
[54:14] So I just read more recommended by Robert R. King back in 2000.
[54:20] The traffic engineers studied for this runway indicates the speed limit should be the same
[54:24] as the speed limit.
[54:25] I'm probably villages will also have a new.
[54:27] Since this is merely an extension of the villages will also have a new.
[54:32] speed limit is 30 miles per hour. However, a study for the village is recommending 25 miles
[54:38] mile an hour zones. Be established for Wilson Avenue, Wheeler Avenue, Failing Terrace,
[54:44] North and Avenue. They are floored to Pultney. The time of Pultney should establish legal
[54:49] 25 mile per hour zones on Wilson Avenue, Extension, Failing Terrace, Extension, and Northern
[54:55] Avenue, Extension, North and Avenue. North and Avenue, Extension is also referred to as
[55:03] whatever the resolution of the town receiving this is, if there's anything documented, stating that the select board at the time decided to
[55:14] That's check the minutes from that.
[55:16] We do. That's eight.
[55:18] It's order 25.
[55:20] I don't know if I saw him stick it up for the day.
[55:23] I mean, it's not.
[55:24] I mean, it's not. I mean, it's not.
[55:25] I mean, it's not. I mean, it's not.
[55:25] It's not.
[55:26] It's not.
[55:26] That, you know, that was a.
[55:28] The conclusion from that study and we do that,
[55:30] and we've.
[55:32] Well, the village has been discussing it recently about this.
[55:35] The.
[55:35] The son of his roles.
[55:38] It.
[55:39] It's not.
[55:42] It's not.
[55:43] It's not.
[55:44] It's not.
[55:44] I know no but legal from from what Jay said does cross legal barriers if there is so oh well it could have been more 50 legally
[55:52] Well you probably shouldn't have been the whole because that somebody died
[55:58] Right now I wouldn't say or I have a motion for the
[56:05] Can we could touch back on the short term or we're gonna real go after the tiny mission
[56:09] Just real quick
[56:11] Yeah, they've been asking you guys, I wasn't telling the past once, and I know you guys
[56:16] are getting, and this seems like they're pushing a kind of hard, and they don't even think
[56:22] there's better things they can be doing. I know, or direct them to stop pursuing those,
[56:28] you guys, I have the power to do that. I mean, a lot of it's also coming down from the state. I
[56:33] think it's appropriate to explore it. I don't think that, I'm sure. I said we're at a point where
[56:39] there's any opinion on what should be done, you know, yes or no, any of that.
[56:44] But it may be look across the state of Vermont.
[56:47] Whole things is not the only time to talk about.
[56:49] That's not the only time to have issues with it.
[56:52] I don't know whether or not there's something that is happening.
[56:55] I suppose to board and I think that, like with the road,
[56:59] when people bring up complaints and bring up things,
[57:02] I think it's important to look at it and just understand.
[57:05] And what was the deal with all majority of the voice, you know, and here that's the deal.
[57:11] But that's the thing you're exploring it.
[57:13] Right? This isn't where not the point where anything's going into effect.
[57:17] We're not, you know, like you're saying, like you're doing a subjectivity, right?
[57:20] You're understanding what the majority's asked for if it gets a point.
[57:24] Does it go to a vote? Does it get implemented? I frankly don't know what that process is.
[57:30] But we're at the point where they're exploring and they're putting it out from public opinion.
[57:34] they're hearing the feedback and no gene is really taking everything else in us being said and
[57:41] and that's the process of it. But yeah, I do side with him while they do probably have better
[57:47] things to do and I mean ultimately, these are completely understand that you're not going to have
[57:54] multi-villian dollar real estate companies coming up here to try to buy up half of Lake St.
[57:59] out them because we only have a two to three week seasonal rental, you know. I do have to
[58:05] I do have to say that we really do trust in the blank mission because they they, um,
[58:10] do you want a great job? There's a lot of things they have done for us. So I think this is something
[58:13] like, she said that they're exploring, they're seeing, so I think they're going to hear you,
[58:17] um, and they're, you know, they're going to listen and then they'll make it.
[58:19] Yeah, we kind of just want them like, I just good that you guys are calling. Right.
[58:23] Go to the, go to the, go to the streets and ask for you guys. Yeah.
[58:26] I know you guys didn't give me more.
[58:27] Well, a lot of town said employ SDRs because I mean a lot of people are fearful of big companies,
[58:33] come and go real estate couples like they do on a coast, buying up in several properties
[58:37] of lemonade, full-term residents, and like I'm trying to say, you know, with a two-month vacation
[58:43] season, you know, South Carolina, they, you know, the, you know, the, you know, return out of
[58:47] investment for the companies that is just not what it is here versus down there when you
[58:52] can rent a place for 10 months.
[58:53] So, the fact that they're looking was something that's ultimately negligible in the reasoning behind it is kind of concerning.
[59:02] It's kind of the same reason we're looking into Wilson Ab, like they got a link similar.
[59:07] It can end up in like if the majority of people have a voice.
[59:10] Because you never know, it seems like everybody agrees, but there might be a big group of kind of silent majority.
[59:16] It's just good.
[59:17] Law the SCR thing is to keep big companies from, we all keep them from all the way to
[59:22] law this.
[59:23] But it's also, there's young people that like, like, don't like seeing rich people by
[59:28] all the late houses, you know.
[59:29] So you know, you've got four of it.
[59:31] I guess we've got it all in.
[59:32] It's complicated.
[59:33] We've got to lose some of us at those places.
[59:34] There's a lot of things.
[59:35] We don't have a bank in it.
[59:36] There's a lot of things.
[59:37] People that you shouldn't do, both of you should get on the foreign and contact those two
[59:42] because that's what you need to.
[59:43] We have two state representatives.
[59:44] And if all of that, it should also work in there.
[59:50] So I think there's a couple of things.
[59:51] Part of this conversation, I think there's a couple of points
[59:54] that probably should be clarified by the record.
[59:58] Mr. Sun's keeps saying.
[1:00:30] To it that this panel looking into the short-term rental is in response to a particular complaint.
[1:00:39] And I don't think that is happening. I know it's not accurate, because the board was looking at in short-term rental.
[1:00:47] of this issue before someone actually came and made a complaint.
[1:00:56] So people believe that someone
[1:00:58] complained about a shared driveway, or whatever,
[1:01:01] it's going out there.
[1:01:02] If you're reading the complaint and read their draft,
[1:01:05] you'll see how closely it mayors,
[1:01:07] because they'd recommend it.
[1:01:08] I can tell them, because I was in those meetings.
[1:01:12] At the time, I was a zoning administrator,
[1:01:14] and I was in those meetings and when they started looking at the short-term rental was not in response to some of them playing.
[1:01:24] I was before my time.
[1:01:26] So, in fact, the person that you're referring to actually called me because, you know,
[1:01:33] to highlight some of their issues.
[1:01:34] And I said, it's interesting that you just call all because the plan and commission
[1:01:39] rather than as many months ago, started looking into this issue.
[1:01:45] So it was not in response to someone's individual complaint.
[1:01:49] But I think that's worth noting.
[1:01:51] I think like, yeah.
[1:01:56] What are they?
[1:01:57] Nothing.
[1:01:58] And even if they're what?
[1:02:00] Just like Wilson Avenue Extension is in response to somebody's complaint.
[1:02:05] I mean, yeah.
[1:02:06] Okay.
[1:02:06] That's on the stomach was in response to someone complaining to me about the steps on the
[1:02:10] sandwich.
[1:02:11] Yeah, sure.
[1:02:12] It's part of your private property and you're clearly going to call the state police or
[1:02:15] somebody's trespassing.
[1:02:16] You would be surprised how many people call here with complaints.
[1:02:20] You think you direct them to the state police or 911?
[1:02:23] Of course I do.
[1:02:24] Oh, okay.
[1:02:24] It's attractive to me.
[1:02:25] Do I think it's the agency that, right, and you know what I think I get?
[1:02:30] Response was really told me to call you, but that's not our job here.
[1:02:33] So, you think that you go into them?
[1:02:36] You guys went to the meeting about it.
[1:02:38] You think they're not listening and pushing and turning.
[1:02:41] Oh, that's not.
[1:02:42] They're listening.
[1:02:44] But, you know, this is a bit of an axon.
[1:02:45] It seems to me, I don't care the way because the other house I don't have or also
[1:02:49] I didn't even have it in this town.
[1:02:50] But the point is, is it seems like everybody offered from, doesn't really seem
[1:02:55] like you should get pushed?
[1:02:57] I don't see the factual basis of what I said big companies buying up, late for
[1:03:03] up.
[1:03:03] So I just, and as people working for the taxpayers over the word for playing a commission,
[1:03:11] I mean I feel like they should be listening to the majority of the people. I mean we do,
[1:03:14] you know, no, this is good. No doubt. I'd say if the majority speaks.
[1:03:19] And if they're sure we're about to pass a lift to you and stuff like that, I mean,
[1:03:24] that's not my job they're looking for. No, but it is important for the record that that
[1:03:31] the draft mirrors that complaint in the same way was just proposed in that complaint that they proposed.
[1:03:38] I also think if you look at their job, you look at a lot of other short term rentals, specifically in Vermont,
[1:03:45] and in their ordinances, it actually mirrors a lot of those out there.
[1:03:49] And so I think that the complaint was likely happens to answer a similar to what a lot of areas are experiencing.
[1:03:57] and I don't think that it's, you can let me draw that completely, that's what I want to say.
[1:04:02] Absolutely, you guys can pair and you can see it, that can play.
[1:04:05] I mean, you don't mean to make worse for getting into it.
[1:04:08] Yeah, that's not it.
[1:04:09] For getting into it, it's too weak of like, why does it, you know,
[1:04:12] I mean, someone can easily say, maybe the thing,
[1:04:16] and I'm not suggesting this at all.
[1:04:18] I mean, just saying that maybe the people that made a complaint,
[1:04:22] looked at someone else's audience and said,
[1:04:24] Huh, this happens to me. Another town dealt with it in their ordinance. Maybe I put my letter and see if only can, so maybe I don't know if that's true, but you know what we're doing.
[1:04:36] And I know on the internet and say that's what happened, does it make a true?
[1:04:41] Does it?
[1:04:42] Well if you compare language, absolutely.
[1:04:43] If I go on the internet and say that happened, if you don't know the real facts of something, if you say it, that doesn't make it true.
[1:04:51] necessarily. So you find the direct on the internet. You find the complain on the internet. They're both official.
[1:04:56] What if I said, what if I said, which is not even the case? What I just said? What if people said, huh?
[1:05:03] What if what other times are doing? Look at this. How did he just exactly what's happening to me? Let me put it in my letter.
[1:05:10] So now, if you're actually following your logic, the time the time of police finish commission is being influenced by that.
[1:05:19] when they were influenced by it, another regulation.
[1:05:22] So I think in the end, you guys go to the end of the night.
[1:05:25] Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's important at all.
[1:05:27] But if you go to the end of the night,
[1:05:29] well, I don't think that it's important, I don't think it's important.
[1:05:34] I'm just saying that's a fact.
[1:05:35] But here's like the brass tax.
[1:05:36] If you guys all go to the end of the night,
[1:05:38] in physicians, and everybody's not for this.
[1:05:42] By the time it gets us, we're not going to be like,
[1:05:44] you know what, it really hates us, but we're going to ignore it.
[1:05:47] like, I feel like everybody including the planning commissions
[1:05:50] reasonable people.
[1:05:52] I'm just worried if this gets passed, you know,
[1:05:55] does this open up a door for other things
[1:05:56] that are fully supported by the community
[1:05:58] to be kind of ushered through to, you know,
[1:06:01] that type of stuff.
[1:06:02] Has that been a pattern?
[1:06:03] I haven't really paid attention, so I don't know.
[1:06:05] And, and the other thing is, there were a lot of,
[1:06:10] I know because I looked and learned
[1:06:11] there were a lot of good questions that were brought
[1:06:13] to the blank mission.
[1:06:14] There were a whole list of them.
[1:06:15] So those are take time to go through them
[1:06:17] really look at them. I know you for me, it didn't. You need to look at all the questions
[1:06:20] because some of them are like, that's interesting to think of that.
[1:06:22] So there are a lot of questions that I think it takes time and they need to have that discussion.
[1:06:29] So that's why I said, I'm not going to go either way until I get the information and
[1:06:33] understand it and I do have trust in the planning commission that they will look at everything.
[1:06:39] They'll listen to all of you and they'll come up with a great decision.
[1:06:41] You say so for them one of them says that they do buy a thing to be better. I mean, that's kind of that trust for him
[1:06:48] I'll turn back. I think my I'm here to paraphrase my feedback. I think I knew it was before all this. I said
[1:06:56] I don't pose a basic fire and safety checklist without any fees to residents or something like that. Like I'm sure you'll see it
[1:07:05] But I'm just saying like they're getting feedback. They'll look at over that piece of paper. They have isn't
[1:07:10] They're not going to shove it down people's throat, you know, like they will listen to it
[1:07:13] But I think like just going to the meetings and like just talking to them and the listen
[1:07:18] But I work out like I just said and when he was on I'm very you know, if I'm paying
[1:07:22] Mission we are biased. I'm going to worry about coming like that and see that
[1:07:26] But yeah, I'm worried we have to worry about coming to play tonight
[1:07:30] It's on. The sport in one person, any people? Well, sure, I told you.
[1:07:34] You could say yes, I could say yes. I could say yes. If an act of violence more than one, right, that's what they have.
[1:07:38] That's what I was biased. Alright, that's, that's.
[1:07:41] Yeah, I mean, you come in to you guys. Well, a ten of sure, we'll get feedback.
[1:07:45] Yeah, pretty side, I must have been given up from that. But now they're, they're, they're looking at what we're sidewalks in.
[1:07:51] They're just, we got a brand. We've got a brand of policy. We're getting a new stop.
[1:07:56] We didn't get a grant for the final school.
[1:07:59] Yeah, school.
[1:08:00] Yeah, that's nothing to do with us.
[1:08:02] No money.
[1:08:03] No money.
[1:08:04] No money.
[1:08:06] I mean, I'm not.
[1:08:08] I need to sign.
[1:08:09] I need to sign.
[1:08:10] I need to sign.
[1:08:11] Okay.
[1:08:13] Four nerds.
[1:08:14] I have emotions.
[1:08:15] He signed the board.
[1:08:16] Order.
[1:08:16] I think that's.
[1:08:17] I'll be in the budget.
[1:08:18] Second, my avi, I'll be on favor.
[1:08:21] All right.
[1:08:21] And it goes.
[1:08:23] It makes sure you do sign the board.
[1:08:25] We can, he's like, you session tonight.
[1:08:27] We know.
[1:08:28] That will be a good one.
[1:08:32] Hangouts, or members.
[1:08:35] Maybe we can be on the scene.
[1:08:36] Well, thank you for coming.
[1:08:37] I'm sure it's good to go.
[1:08:39] Second, and second, by Allen Beaver.
[1:08:41] Talk, try to see everybody know that.
[1:08:44] Bye.
[1:08:45] Bye.