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That was
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I'll keep it.
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8:00.
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So, I to order this special council
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meeting of Thursday, May 17th.
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And we will start with the adoption of
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our agenda. I don't know if there's
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don't think there's any
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changes from the agenda.
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Nope, not seeing anything from staff.
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Councillor Wyatt.
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>> I'll move the agenda.
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» I'll move the agenda.
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>> Seconded by Councillor Southcott. Not
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» Seconded by Councillor Southcott. Not
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seeing any discussion, all in favor?
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That is unanimous.
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And I can get someone to do number three
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minutes.
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>> I move
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» I move
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I move that council move into a closed
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meeting to discuss matters covered by
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the community charter under Section 90
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1A, personal information about an
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identifiable individual who holds or is
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being considered for a position as an
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officer, employee, or agent of the
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municipality or another position
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appointed by the municipality.
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Um
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Is that I or L?
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L.
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Discussions with municipal officers and
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employees respecting municipal
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objectives, measures, and progress
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reports for the purposes of preparing an
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annual report under section 98, annual
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municipal report.
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>> Moved by Councillor Southcott.
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» Moved by Councillor Southcott.
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All in favor.
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That is unanimous. We
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reconvene at 3:30 for the rest of the
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open agenda.
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» Mhm.
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» Good to go, Carson?
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Yep.
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All right, we will resume our special
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council meeting for Monday, sorry
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Monday, Thursday May the 14th.
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Uh the mayor is away with leave today.
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Councillor Isaacson is tuning in
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remotely. I'd like to acknowledge that
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we're holding these meetings on the
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traditional territory of the Tla'amin
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people.
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Who have stewarded this land for
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thousands of years.
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And we already had our agenda cleared
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up, so that moves us to our public input
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period.
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Um there's nobody in the gallery. Mr.
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Sercia, do we have anyone online for
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public input?
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All right, wonderful.
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That moves us to 7.1, the draft 2025
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financial statements and related
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results. We'll turn it over to the
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uh interim chief financial officer, Mr.
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Beauregard.
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>> Thank you, uh Acting Mayor. Um
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» Thank you, uh Acting Mayor. Um
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in terms of sequence, uh
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our auditor, Brian Zabor, is going to
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present us audit finding report first.
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And then, [snorts] um
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Ryan will give a brief uh PowerPoint
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presentation on the statements and the
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highlights of those statements.
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And then, we'll ask uh
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entertain questions and then ask council
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to consider the motion to approve the
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draft financial statements. So, I'll
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turn things over to Brian first.
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>> Uh thank you very much. I appreciate the
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» Uh thank you very much. I appreciate the
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opportunity to be here,
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kind of here, with you today, uh
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presenting the financial or the audit
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report on the financial statements.
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Um so, if you are following along in in
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your package, uh and if there's a
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presentation up on the uh the board,
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it's uh I'm starting on page four of our
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report.
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And uh on page four, it's uh starts with
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uh at a glance and it describes
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uh the materiality levels that were
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applied uh to the city's audit.
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Um the overall materiality level that's
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applied to capital activities remained
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at 4.3 million. The uh consolidated
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materiality with respect to operating
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activities remained at 1.3 million. And
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then the specific component materiality
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that applies to the individual entities
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um the city as an individual entity, the
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Powell River Forest Limited, and the
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Powell River Public Library was 1.251
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million. Now, those specific materiality
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levels that were applied to those audits
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specifically may and well and and may
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well have been and in fact for the
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library was definitely lower than that,
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but we set that as kind of the highest
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um amount that can be set for
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materiality level at the component
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level.
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Um for on page five, we provide a
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snapshot of the status of the audit. Uh
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the audit was uh complete uh the
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fieldwork was completed a couple of
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weeks ago. We finished off getting some
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questions answered and going through
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some uh some final matters with uh
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management, but we are complete now and
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uh subject to approval of the financial
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statements by council, we will be ready
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to issue the auditor's report. We have
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received the signed management
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representation letter and we did perform
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our subsequent events questions up to
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today's date, so we are ready to issue
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upon council's approval of the financial
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statements.
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Uh on page six
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we describe uh what we call group
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matters because uh there are two
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entities that are consolidated into the
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financial statements being the forestry
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company
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and uh the library. We do consider this
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to be a group audit. Um we do audit the
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library as well, so that part of it is
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uh fairly straightforward. But, because
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there's another firm of auditors that
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audits the Powell River Community Forest
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Company,
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we do have to communicate with them and
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ensure that their procedures are being
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undertaken as though we are doing the
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audit. So, we really oversee their audit
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work. And we are in communication with
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them. We do confirm with them that they
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are adhering to the same standards that
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we do. And then we do use their audit
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opinion in in the incorporation of of
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the results of operations of the
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forestry company into the cities.
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And so, based on the above,
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an unmodified audit opinion was issued
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by MNP. And we do use that as audit
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evidence for the cities' financial
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statements.
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The next several pages, 7, 8, and 9
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cover our audit findings. And this
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should be read in conjunction
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with
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the planning report that was presented
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in January.
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The first page covers management
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override of internal controls. We do
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perform procedures to address that risk
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and did not note any instances of
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override of internal controls, including
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in journal entries,
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risk of fraudulent revenue recognition.
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We have rebutted that risk just due to
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the nature of the revenue streams at the
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city. However, there is still a
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complexity to the revenue recognition at
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the city. So, we do
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confirm grant funding and we do ensure
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that any funding received and other
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transactions that are recorded for
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revenue are recorded properly in
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accordance with the standards.
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Page 8 covers employee future benefits
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and development cost charges. Again, two
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areas that that entail some complexity.
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And so, we do spend a fair amount of
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time
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examining these areas and all the
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procedures that were performed were done
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so without any issues noted.
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And then finally on page nine we address
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the contingent liability with respect to
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the wastewater treatment plant. This is
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an item that carries over from the prior
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year and the litigation is ongoing
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remains unresolved. At this time there
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have been no amounts recorded in the
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financial statements in respect of this
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item
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simply because the ability to predict
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the outcome is not there and any amounts
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if any that might be payable in respect
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of this cannot be estimated at this
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time.
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And at the time that this becomes more
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clear in terms of its resolution and the
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amount payable if any
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it will be recorded in the financial
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statements.
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The next page 10 covers internal control
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matters. We did not note any
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deficiencies in internal controls.
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If we did we would be required to
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communicate those to you
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but the fact that we are not
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communicating any significant
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deficiencies doesn't mean there are no
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deficiencies. We do not test all
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internal controls nor all instances of
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internal controls.
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We test the the controls that we deem
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relevant to the audit so those are the
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significant controls that management
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performs that impact our audit work.
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The next page 11 adjusted and unadjusted
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differences. There were no adjustments
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made during the course of the audit as a
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result of the audit procedures and there
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are no
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misstatements that we detected that
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remain uncorrected in the financial
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statements.
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The next two pages 12 and 13 cover a
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number of matters that if they were to
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occur or noted by us, we would be
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required to report them to you. The
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first three items are responsibilities
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under auditing standards, our audit
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strategy and scope, and fraud risk
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factors applicable to the city were
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included in our planning report. And uh
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there were no other matters that were
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required to be reported to you other
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than the fact that we do use uh Georgian
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Bell, the uh firm of actuaries in
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determining the uh amount of the
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employee future benefits, and of course
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our reliance on MNP's report on the
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forestry company.
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Um the next page outlines a number of
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recommended resources for you. The red
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boxes are all links to our website and
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uh include a num- a bunch of uh really
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very interesting information, and the
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one on the right there is probably
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something that uh I think uh management
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and uh council might want to to uh
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explore is uh the prevention of
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procurement fraud risks.
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Um this is something that we we do see
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now and then on the increase, and and
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just with uh today's kind of economic
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environment, um probably warrants
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another look just to ensure that uh all
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your controls are in place.
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Uh the next page covers a a new
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accounting standard that will be
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effective for your fiscal 2027 year.
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Uh it's really a a revision to the
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presentation of the financial
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statements, particularly the statement
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of financial position. Um for those of
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you who are are used to private company
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financial statements that usually have a
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balance sheet rather than the uh city's
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uh statement of financial position, uh
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this will be more familiar to you. It is
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going back more to a a balance sheet
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format, and uh introduces the concept of
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financial liabilities as well. So, there
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will be some changes, and and there will
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be a fair bit of work
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involved in in getting to that place and
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we'll be communicating with management
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over the course of the next year and a
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half or so to to ensure that
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they're on track and and if they have
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any questions on application we're happy
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to to help with those.
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And then finally in the appendices the
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representation letter I mentioned that
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we have received this already signed
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from management. We are required to
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obtain this in writing a number of
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matters that we ask about during the
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course of our audit and just telling us
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that they've provided us with all the
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material that we've asked for anything
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relevant to the financial statements and
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to the city's operation that they're not
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aware of any additional fraud risk
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factors or specific fraud
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and just a number of other general
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representations
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that that we request and there's nothing
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in in particular in this year's letter
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that is a standout that would not be
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included in other years letters or other
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local government letters so it's all
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it's all fairly standard.
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And then finally our independence letter
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which provides you with confirmation
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that we are independent from the city
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there is
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five criteria there that that we note in
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terms of what we look to to ensure that
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we are
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with the last bullet point really being
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the the one that's most
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common in in the public sector
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the provision of services that are
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incompatible with with our role as
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auditors that might put us into a
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position of auditing our own work or if
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there's
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things that we are doing services that
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we are providing that that might be
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multiples of our our audit fee and I can
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assure you that there's no such
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activities like that. So we do confirm
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that that we are independent from the
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city.
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So, I'm happy to respond to any
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questions.
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» Questions, Council?
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Wow, you have Oh, I thought you were
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going to set a record, Mr. Zabel.
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Counselor Dought.
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>> I don't want to be accused of coming to
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» I don't want to be accused of coming to
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a 3-minute meeting, so
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>> [laughter]
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» [laughter]
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>> going to maybe stretch it out a little
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» going to maybe stretch it out a little
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bit here. But, I just you know, I got an
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email this week from a from a taxpayer
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who was telling me that the city is
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bankrupt. And since the auditors are
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here, I thought that might be a good
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question to ask the auditors. Do you
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think we're the city's anywhere close to
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being bankrupt?
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>> Well, I I think that's probably a
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» Well, I I think that's probably a
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question that should be answered during
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the presentation of the financial
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statements. I'm not I'm not sure what
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you know, bankrupt can mean a lot of
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different things. Um I don't certainly
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don't see the city as as being
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bankrupt,
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but I think what you'll you'll find is
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when the financial statements are
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presented that the city has adequate
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resources to continue operations.
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>> Thank you. I thought that was what you
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» Thank you. I thought that was what you
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would say.
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» Thank you, Counselor Dought. Anyone
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else?
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Seeing none, thank you, Mr. Zabel for
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your presentation.
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>> Thank you. I will just I'll hang on the
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» Thank you. I will just I'll hang on the
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meeting until Council has an opportunity
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to approve the statements.
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>> Sounds good.
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» Sounds good.
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>> Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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>> Um Mr. Youngman, I believe you're next.
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» Thank you.
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I always have to adjust this microphone
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here.
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So, the purpose of this report is to
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summarize the city's financial results
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and to present the draft 2025 financial
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statements for Council's approval, which
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is required for the auditors to sign off
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on the audit.
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>> [clears throat]
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» [clears throat]
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>> So, the report goes into quite a bit of
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» So, the report goes into quite a bit of
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detail, so I'm just going to focus on
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the key points, but if there's any
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questions on the presentation, the
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report, or any part of the financial
[44:17]
statements, I'll be happy to answer them
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at the end of the presentation.
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So, starting with some background
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information, the financial statements
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and the audit are being big undertaking
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by staff, um
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but uh ultimately the financial
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statements are prepared by management in
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accordance with public sector accounting
[44:32]
standards.
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As we've heard from the city's external
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auditor, BDO, the auditors have
[44:37]
substantially completed their audit and
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have scrutinized the city's accounts,
[44:41]
processes, and financial statements and
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have a draft clean audit opinion, which
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is called an unmodified opinion, so
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we're pleased about that.
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>> [clears throat and cough]
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» [clears throat and cough]
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>> So, the first statement that I'd like to
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» So, the first statement that I'd like to
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bring to your attention is the
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consolidated statement of financial
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position, which provides a snapshot of
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the city's finances at a point in time.
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So, we're looking at December 31st of
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2025 compared to the previous year.
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So, the first line item I'd like to
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bring to your attention is cash and cash
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equivalents, which increased by 5.2
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million to 69.1 million, primarily due
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to the 2024 dividend from the Powell
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River Community Forest of 3.7 million
[45:19]
that was deposited during the year.
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Dividends receivable from the Powell
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River Community Forest fluctuate
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depending on the activity in the
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corporation, and the dividend receivable
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increased decreased by 2 million to 1.7
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million, which is larger than the
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budgeted dividend of $1 million.
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The investment in Powell River Community
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Forest, which is the equity the city
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owns of the entity, increased by $2
[45:42]
million to $3 million, primarily due to
[45:44]
higher net income in the company.
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So, overall, the net financial assets
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came in at 23.9 million.
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Looking at the non-financial assets, um
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the tangible capital assets decreased by
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$1 million, primarily due to
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amortization, but uh is pretty
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consistent with the prior year.
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Resulting in accumulated surplus of 240
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million.
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The next statement I'd like to bring to
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your attention is the consolidated
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statement of operations. So, this
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provides a summary of the financial
[46:19]
results from uh the year ended December
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31st of 2025 as compared to the prior
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year.
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So, taxation came in pretty much as
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expected at 30.2 million. The minor
[46:31]
variance is due to the
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you know, to the budget is due to the
[46:34]
supplementary assessment from BC
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Assessment that it that are issued.
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Government transfers was 3.3 million,
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which was 5.2 million below budget
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primarily due to actual grant revenue
[46:48]
recognized being lower as there are
[46:50]
projects that did not progress as
[46:51]
planned for various reasons.
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Uh the most significant was the complex
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thermal ice heat plant recovery project
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that had a grant budget of 1.8 million,
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but didn't proceed during the year.
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And then also, when we look at the prior
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year, there was a large portion of grant
[47:06]
funding that was recognized due to the
[47:08]
airport rehabilitation project.
[47:11]
So, overall revenue came in at 54.2
[47:13]
million, which is lower due to the
[47:15]
government transfers from the prior
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year.
[47:20]
So, looking at the expenses, uh one
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thing to note is we're required on the
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financial statements to report the
[47:27]
original budget that was adopted. So,
[47:29]
any budget amendments that were made
[47:30]
during the year are not in the budget
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column here.
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So, [clears throat] uh budget amendments
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like the CUPE collective agreement, for
[47:38]
example, which was signed in 2025 is not
[47:41]
in here.
[47:43]
Um so, protective [clears throat]
[47:44]
services increased by 1.2 million to 9.4
[47:47]
million primarily due to police costs
[47:49]
increasing almost 1 million as RCMP
[47:52]
contract costs increased and there were
[47:53]
more members year over year.
[47:56]
The protective services overall was over
[47:58]
budget by 429,000
[48:00]
due to the fire department incurring
[48:02]
overtime to cover long-term injury and
[48:04]
illness for a significant portion of the
[48:06]
year.
[48:08]
Recreation parks and cultural services
[48:10]
increased to 7.4 million and was 239,000
[48:14]
over the original budget primarily due
[48:16]
to higher wages driven by the new KIP
[48:18]
wage agreement or the collective
[48:20]
agreement. But having said that, if we
[48:22]
look at the budget amendments that were
[48:24]
um
[48:25]
uh approved during the year, that they
[48:27]
were actually under budget.
[48:30]
So, there was a loss on disposal on
[48:32]
disposal of tangible capital assets of
[48:34]
723,000
[48:36]
which was primarily related to the
[48:37]
disposal of old asphalt pavement that
[48:40]
was replaced during the airport paving
[48:42]
project.
[48:43]
And overall, the annual surplus was 4.5
[48:47]
million which was lower than the prior
[48:48]
year and budget primarily due to lower
[48:51]
government transfers.
[48:53]
Thank you. If there's any questions or
[48:55]
comments, I'd be happy to answer them.
[48:59]
» I just noticed you didn't highlight it
[49:00]
there, but the development planning and
[49:02]
building services was higher than 24 but
[49:05]
a million lower than what the budget
[49:07]
was. Are those just development and
[49:09]
permit fees and things?
[49:12]
>> Uh so, for the uh environmental and
[49:14]
» Uh so, for the uh environmental and
[49:14]
public health, which sorry, which one
[49:15]
were you looking at there?
[49:16]
>> The development planning and building
[49:17]
» The development planning and building
[49:17]
services right under the recs and parks.
[49:20]
>> Yeah, so that's 1.9 million that it came
[49:22]
» Yeah, so that's 1.9 million that it came
[49:22]
in at versus uh
[49:24]
2.9 million and um it's primarily
[49:27]
related to
[49:28]
uh lower staff levels than than
[49:30]
budgeted. So,
[49:31]
makes sense.
[49:33]
Does that really help?
[49:34]
>> So, we're talking about government
[49:35]
» So, we're talking about government
[49:35]
transfers and and projects we didn't
[49:37]
start. So, does that mean we didn't
[49:39]
receive grants we expected to receive
[49:41]
and they're gone now or we will receive
[49:43]
them in a different year or did I
[49:45]
misunderstand you?
[49:46]
>> Yeah, I know, it's a good question. So,
[49:47]
» Yeah, I know, it's a good question. So,
[49:47]
basically um
[49:49]
how how it works is as projects proceed,
[49:52]
that's when we recognize grant revenue
[49:54]
cuz as we spend eligible grant money,
[49:57]
that's when we recognize the grant
[49:58]
revenue. So, uh it doesn't mean that
[50:00]
we've um releasing grants. In some
[50:03]
cases, we might have grants, but we have
[50:05]
to record them as deferred revenue until
[50:06]
the project starts. Uh in some cases, we
[50:09]
put um
[50:11]
you know, government transfers grant
[50:12]
revenue or not grant revenue, but we
[50:14]
budget for that grant revenue. Um and we
[50:17]
haven't even actually been approved for
[50:18]
the grant yet, but we're just putting in
[50:20]
the budget hoping that it's going to get
[50:21]
approved. So, yeah, there's it doesn't
[50:23]
mean that we're losing out on grant
[50:25]
opportunities. It's just projects are
[50:26]
not proceeding as planned.
[50:28]
>> So, we haven't turned back grants.
[50:31]
» So, we haven't turned back grants.
[50:31]
It's not grants that we turned back cuz
[50:33]
we couldn't do the project in time or
[50:35]
something.
[50:36]
>> Um I mean, I can think of one situation
[50:40]
» Um I mean, I can think of one situation
[50:40]
where that's that's happened um where
[50:42]
basically the project couldn't
[50:45]
uh couldn't proceed. So, um the it just
[50:47]
didn't happen and then the grant the
[50:49]
grant money uh will be returned to the
[50:51]
granter. Yeah.
[50:54]
Mr. Shelton?
[50:58]
» Just two more questions.
[51:00]
I'm specifically curious about the
[51:03]
Rec Complex [clears throat]
[51:04]
uh thermal facilities uh grant federal
[51:06]
grant. Was that the one that was
[51:08]
returned
[51:09]
or expired?
[51:11]
>> Yeah, so my understanding with that
[51:12]
» Yeah, so my understanding with that
[51:13]
project is uh there are some funding
[51:15]
challenges with that project and so um
[51:18]
it's in the budget for 2027. So, it's
[51:20]
still you know, hope to proceed, but
[51:23]
it's just uh yeah, there there's been a
[51:25]
bit of delay on it. So,
[51:26]
>> So, that money that federal money is
[51:27]
» So, that money that federal money is
[51:27]
still waiting to
[51:29]
be applied. Is it?
[51:31]
>> Um
[51:33]
» Um
[51:33]
to be honest, I can't remember the exact
[51:35]
status of it, but I just know yeah, it's
[51:36]
in the 2027 budget and it was the
[51:38]
project was going to cost more than was
[51:40]
uh anticipated.
[51:42]
>> Right.
[51:43]
» Right.
[51:43]
Okay, thank you.
[51:45]
>> Mr. Palm.
[51:46]
» Mr. Palm.
[51:46]
>> Mr. Chair, just for further
[51:48]
» Mr. Chair, just for further
[51:48]
clarification, you were talking about
[51:49]
the the roof replacement.
[51:52]
Which fund Which funding were you to uh
[51:58]
The the
[51:59]
That wasn't Community Forest funds in
[52:01]
old was it?
[52:03]
>> No.
[52:04]
» No.
[52:04]
It's a
[52:05]
federal grant.
[52:06]
>> For the uh the heat exchanger projects,
[52:08]
» For the uh the heat exchanger projects,
[52:08]
I I can't remember what the funding
[52:10]
source was uh for that. I'm not sure if
[52:12]
uh CFO Bajergaard remembers, um but I I
[52:15]
can speak to the uh the
[52:17]
uh complex the pool roof. I I remember
[52:19]
that one. So, that's uh
[52:21]
that's partially Community Forest funded
[52:23]
and uh we're waiting on that one for um
[52:25]
to determine whether or not uh the grant
[52:28]
application was successful for the
[52:29]
Strategic Priorities Fund, which I
[52:31]
believe we're uh supposed to expect in a
[52:34]
couple months.
[52:36]
>> Yep.
[52:36]
» Yep.
[52:36]
>> Councillor Isaacson.
[52:40]
» Thank you, Chair. Um I'm wondering if
[52:41]
you can speak to I think it's always a
[52:43]
curiosity different organizations treat
[52:46]
um annual surpluses. And so, when I look
[52:49]
at our statement of operations, the
[52:50]
annual surplus this year was um
[52:54]
um over $4 million. And so, that feels
[52:58]
like a lot of money that was taxed for
[53:00]
that wasn't put to use. And so, can you
[53:03]
speak to how how we
[53:07]
um what we do with those funds and ways
[53:10]
to tax to the levels that we expect to
[53:14]
to spend operationally annually.
[53:18]
» Yeah, through the chair. So, there
[53:20]
actually will be a report coming forward
[53:21]
in the near future um discussing
[53:23]
surplus. So, it'll go into more detail,
[53:26]
but uh yeah, surplus is used to put into
[53:29]
reserves to save for the future, um and
[53:32]
it's also used to you know, fund
[53:34]
tangible capital assets as well. So, um
[53:37]
you know, you see a $4 million
[53:39]
surplus there, but uh it you know, it's
[53:41]
it's being allocated and saved for the
[53:43]
future, right?
[53:45]
>> Through the chair, maybe I could just
[53:47]
» Through the chair, maybe I could just
[53:47]
address that question in part.
[53:50]
We have to be careful to distinguish
[53:53]
between the accrued surplus versus cash
[53:55]
surplus.
[53:57]
So, that figure that you're noting is
[53:59]
based on an accrual and it includes
[54:02]
non-cash items such as amortization,
[54:06]
things like that. So, a truer picture is
[54:09]
when you look at the cash surplus, which
[54:11]
is identified in the financial
[54:13]
statements.
[54:14]
And there's a surplus related to the
[54:17]
water fund,
[54:18]
the sewer fund, and the general fund.
[54:21]
And the overall cash surplus went down
[54:23]
by $400,000.
[54:28]
» Thank you for the clarification, Mr.
[54:30]
Berglund.
[54:31]
Any further questions from council?
[54:36]
Being none, anything else on the
[54:38]
presentation, Mr. Youngren?
[54:43]
» That's it for me.
[54:46]
Actually, one thing I'll just mention
[54:47]
just about the question about
[54:49]
bankruptcy. I mean, one of the things
[54:51]
that we have to answer every year is
[54:53]
going concern, right? So, is the city
[54:55]
operating on a going concern basis,
[54:56]
which means that we believe that it's
[54:58]
going to continue operating into the
[54:59]
future, and the auditors have to assess
[55:01]
that as well. So, there's no concern on
[55:04]
my end about the city's ability to
[55:05]
continue operating as a going concern.
[55:08]
>> Through the chair, maybe I could address
[55:10]
» Through the chair, maybe I could address
[55:10]
that question as well.
[55:12]
Um
[55:13]
>> Go ahead.
[55:14]
» Go ahead.
[55:14]
>> You know, the
[55:16]
» You know, the
[55:16]
the city has
[55:18]
fairly healthy reserves that went up by
[55:20]
3 million during the year.
[55:22]
You know, a good percentage of those
[55:23]
reserves, of course, are the community
[55:25]
forest money says well.
[55:27]
And as we know, you know, they are
[55:29]
designated more for capital
[55:32]
and cannot be used for operations, but
[55:34]
overall, I think the city's financial
[55:37]
picture from a reserve point of view is
[55:40]
has improved from 2024 to 2025.
[55:44]
And um
[55:46]
you know, at the end of the day um
[55:50]
you know, a surplus and reserves will
[55:53]
grow over time if we have a disciplined
[55:56]
approach
[55:57]
to saving money.
[55:59]
Um
[55:59]
and I think that's what long-term
[56:01]
financial planning does for you. It
[56:03]
allows you to set aside money is on a
[56:06]
disciplined basis to get into a better
[56:08]
financial position over time.
[56:13]
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You're good.
[56:14]
Counselor Doep.
[56:16]
>> Now, I'm going to move the motion that
[56:18]
» Now, I'm going to move the motion that
[56:18]
council approve
[56:20]
the City of Powell River's draft 2025
[56:23]
financial statements as presented. And
[56:25]
if there's a second here, I'll speak on
[56:27]
it momentarily.
[56:28]
>> Okay, Counselor Doep. Go ahead,
[56:29]
» Okay, Counselor Doep. Go ahead,
[56:29]
Counselor Doep.
[56:30]
>> Well, I'm I appreciate the presentation
[56:32]
» Well, I'm I appreciate the presentation
[56:32]
of staff and the auditors today. I'm
[56:34]
glad uh that we're in a a reasonably
[56:37]
strong financial position as a city to
[56:39]
go forward. I appreciate that. And it's
[56:42]
the work of a lot of people on staff and
[56:45]
council to try to make sure that we have
[56:47]
a plan going forward in the future to
[56:49]
take care
[56:51]
of the services that council hopes to
[56:53]
provide. So, I'm in favor of accepting
[56:56]
this and I think it's a good report.
[57:00]
>> Counselor Elliott.
[57:01]
» Counselor Elliott.
[57:01]
>> Thank you. I'm in favor of the motion. I
[57:03]
» Thank you. I'm in favor of the motion. I
[57:03]
just wanted to comment on um
[57:06]
the financial position that the city is
[57:08]
um if if someone is worried about taxes
[57:12]
continuing to increase, a disciplined
[57:14]
model of savings has, you know, a
[57:17]
certain percentage of increase each
[57:18]
year. So, we're not looking at decreases
[57:21]
in any time soon in order to get our
[57:23]
reserves to where they're meant to be to
[57:26]
support a city with the infrastructure
[57:28]
of the size that we have. And so, that
[57:30]
is um the reality of having a city such
[57:34]
as ours with lots of
[57:36]
infrastructure that's aging. So um I I
[57:40]
am in favor of the motion. I don't
[57:43]
believe our city is going bankrupt, but
[57:45]
I do believe it is um requiring extra
[57:48]
savings to deal with the assets that we
[57:50]
have. Thanks.
[57:53]
>> It's a problem.
[57:54]
» It's a problem.
[57:54]
>> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate
[57:56]
» Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate
[57:56]
all the information that has been uh
[57:58]
discussed
[57:59]
uh
[58:00]
today and the work by staff and our
[58:03]
auditor.
[58:04]
I guess the one major concern on a
[58:06]
go-forward basis in terms of the uh
[58:08]
comment that Councillor Doughty received
[58:10]
is
[58:12]
um
[58:13]
the condition of our roads and what's
[58:14]
underneath uh the pavement in terms of
[58:17]
uh
[58:18]
our infrastructure.
[58:20]
That is going to be something that uh
[58:23]
is has to be dealt with sooner or later
[58:25]
and it's uh long overdue.
[58:28]
I don't think our reserves are anywhere
[58:30]
near the where they should be in that
[58:31]
regard and uh
[58:33]
that's something that we have to keep in
[58:35]
in mind uh as the city goes forward.
[58:38]
Thank you, Chair.
[58:41]
>> Okay. Well, before I call the vote,
[58:43]
» Okay. Well, before I call the vote,
[58:43]
because I might forget if I don't do
[58:44]
this now, I want to thank staff and
[58:47]
especially thank uh Mr. Beauregard who's
[58:50]
uh served as our interim CFO for the
[58:51]
last uh 6 7 months. Today is his uh
[58:54]
final day and his final duty here. So,
[58:56]
thank you for uh your service to our
[58:58]
city for this brief period of time in
[59:00]
this transition. We welcome our new CFO
[59:02]
and uh we wish you the best in your
[59:04]
future endeavors.
[59:06]
>> Thank you.
[59:08]
» Thank you.
[59:08]
>> And I'll call the question. All in
[59:09]
» And I'll call the question. All in
[59:09]
favor.
[59:11]
That is unanimous.
[59:13]
>> Through the chair, could I just provide
[59:15]
» Through the chair, could I just provide
[59:15]
a few remarks?
[59:16]
>> Sounds good.
[59:18]
» Sounds good.
[59:18]
>> I just like to acknowledge uh the work
[59:20]
» I just like to acknowledge uh the work
[59:20]
of staff in completing year end and the
[59:23]
financial statements. Um
[59:26]
throughout the year um
[59:28]
there were staff shortages in finance,
[59:30]
but they persevered and produced the
[59:33]
financial statements
[59:35]
in a fairly timely manner.
[59:38]
And under Ryan's leadership, they
[59:41]
gelled together to produce the
[59:43]
statements and to provide a clean audit
[59:46]
opinion, which I think is to be
[59:47]
commended.
[59:51]
» Good to hear.
[59:52]
We have a great team.
[59:54]
So.
[59:55]
>> Uh, moving into public clarification,
[59:57]
» Uh, moving into public clarification,
[59:57]
Mr. Glinsky.
[1:00:10]
» Uh, good afternoon, Chair. Thank you for
[1:00:12]
the opportunity. Um, I was watching Mr.
[1:00:15]
Youngman's presentation and
[1:00:17]
with great interest and I was looking in
[1:00:20]
the agenda package and I did not see it
[1:00:22]
there. Am I missing something?
[1:00:26]
>> Well, the presentation, yeah, the slides
[1:00:27]
» Well, the presentation, yeah, the slides
[1:00:27]
weren't part of the package, so.
[1:00:31]
» Uh, that would be wonderful, Chair. I'll
[1:00:33]
make arrangements with Mr. Youngman.
[1:00:34]
Yes.
[1:00:35]
>> Councillor Elliott has some comments.
[1:00:36]
» Councillor Elliott has some comments.
[1:00:36]
>> Thank you. So, I was following along in
[1:00:39]
» Thank you. So, I was following along in
[1:00:39]
um, slides that were a part of appendix
[1:00:43]
of the BDO presentation. And so, maybe
[1:00:48]
that's where it's at.
[1:00:49]
>> He's referring to Mr. Youngman's
[1:00:51]
» He's referring to Mr. Youngman's
[1:00:51]
presentation.
[1:00:51]
>> Oh, okay.
[1:00:52]
» Oh, okay.
[1:00:52]
>> I believe most of the data was in
[1:00:53]
» I believe most of the data was in
[1:00:54]
appendix A, but not in the slide format,
[1:00:56]
so.
[1:00:57]
>> Right. Okay, yeah, they're part of the
[1:00:58]
» Right. Okay, yeah, they're part of the
[1:00:58]
finance, yeah.
[1:01:03]
» That's awesome. Thank you, Chair. I
[1:01:05]
appreciate the opportunity.
[1:01:06]
>> Okay, Mr. Glinsky.
[1:01:09]
» Okay, Mr. Glinsky.
[1:01:09]
Uh, any callers online, Mr. Sian?
[1:01:14]
There's no one online and seeing that, I
[1:01:15]
believe I can just adjourn.
[1:01:18]
Yeah, meeting is adjourned. Thank you,
[1:01:19]
everyone.