1 00:02:01,420 --> 00:02:05,740 Council, roll call, public hearing, minutes, adjourned. 2 00:02:11,730 --> 00:02:25,650 Council, roll call, public hearing, minutes, 3 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:50,100 adjourned. 4 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,220 for this opportunity, Lord God, the Lord will save right now that the Holy Spirit will 5 00:02:56,220 --> 00:03:00,960 do welcome you in this place, over all of this as Lord that you could together with us, 6 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,260 Lord, and give us a man who is like you Lord, to do the right thing, Lord God. 7 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,300 When we bind the other series from the Lord, do something with Lord, we're going to be here 8 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:15,560 a series of your citizens, Lord, and we need you right now to help us to do those things 9 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,540 because we know that you're not the author of confusion, but we just thank you for your 10 00:03:20,540 --> 00:03:24,560 mercy and grace and Jesus made my way. I 11 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:45,440 will succeed. 12 00:07:17,780 --> 00:07:22,660 My question, and I know you guys probably can't answer it, but I submitted a bunch 13 00:07:22,660 --> 00:07:26,760 of information into you guys last year to counsel meeting. I haven't heard anything back 14 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,260 from anyone, so I just need to know what's the next step and do you guys ever was 15 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:36,620 getting on responding back or telling me anything. So I'm around in prayer, 16 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:39,000 I hope that you guys will reach out to me and say something. 17 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:47,000 I really hope that you will take some time. 18 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:48,600 I don't know. 19 00:08:26,910 --> 00:08:28,310 Sometime has a bullet. 20 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:30,290 I want a bullet. 21 00:08:31,250 --> 00:08:33,190 And I'm sure that it 22 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,500 has been a 23 00:08:39,020 --> 00:08:41,340 decades here for us for a long time. 24 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,660 And I think we've had some presentation before. 25 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:50,160 It relates to how water system and 26 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:59,900 meeting meetings and what have you so we invite this presentation to give us a 27 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:06,860 room site on a possible answer to our situation with our water system. Thank you. 28 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Turn it on. 29 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:12,140 I better. 30 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:13,540 All right. 31 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,580 Welcome to talk to you guys. 32 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:16,960 First I want to thank you all for letting me come up here and have this. I'm going to 33 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,340 tell you a lot of your time. The package is big. I'm going to kind of go over it. I let 34 00:09:20,340 --> 00:09:26,560 that for y'all for y'all to review. What I'm going to go over is essentially not 35 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:33,800 revenue water, water meter reading, funding, different types of, not revenue water, things 36 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,680 that we can provide for you. So if you look at the first page, basically 37 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:43,300 as you saw, an example of Ferguson being a nation wide, a country of being more 38 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:46,340 wide as far as their meters, how far as their camps are meter. 39 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,320 They're a 40 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:57,340 just north. They did open their brand of facility on 2024 where they sort of manufactured 41 00:09:57,340 --> 00:09:59,760 meters in Cumming, Georgia in 2013. 42 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:05,590 The meter I represent is an ultrasonic meter. 43 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:12,310 So in the past everybody was using mechanical meters or any taking disk and those, the 44 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:17,270 disks tend to wear out over time so your accuracy goes down. So you're looking at losing possibly 45 00:10:17,270 --> 00:10:22,950 5% accuracy over 5 to 10 year period. So if your meters are 20 years old you can look 46 00:10:22,950 --> 00:10:25,330 So you're going to have 15% in accuracy or 20%. 47 00:10:26,550 --> 00:10:31,930 Your mechanical meters will pick up flow starting at 0.08 gallons per AWW standards. 48 00:10:33,010 --> 00:10:35,090 Our meters pick up at 0.01. 49 00:10:35,630 --> 00:10:41,990 So you're basically almost 12% or 12 times more accurate than a mechanical meter. 50 00:10:45,610 --> 00:10:49,310 With a lot of meters, if you have like a drive-by system or an AMY system, you're going 51 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:49,870 to have an antenna. 52 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:55,750 It's going to have a wire connected, which sometimes if you were cutting grass, we'll suck 53 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:59,530 up the lid, break the water and knock it off so it doesn't not be communicating. Our meters 54 00:10:59,530 --> 00:11:06,010 are all integral. The endpoint is on it. It's no wires exposed. There's no way to knock 55 00:11:06,010 --> 00:11:07,630 it off unless you guys are trying to pry it off. 56 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:14,590 Our water meter body is a poly, polycyphaline. 57 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:20,410 It's a fiberglass reinforced. If the else is carrying like a glove, we're lifting them as 58 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:24,870 what our meters are made of, so they're not considered plastic. They are fiberglass reinforced. 59 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:29,810 so they are four times stronger than most brass meters as far as pressure. 60 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:36,280 So I'm just going to go through all of them. 61 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,240 I'm just going to give you all the high level flow. 62 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,080 Do you have any questions for us to stop in there? 63 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Well, you've got to pay so we're going to keep going through. 64 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:45,040 Okay. 65 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,460 Yes, sir. 66 00:11:47,260 --> 00:11:49,520 Okay, so once again we talked about low flow. 67 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,560 So we're on the initially leading low flow. 68 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:53,200 Yes, correct. 69 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:57,740 I got to say once again we are at 0.01 gallons of low flow pickup. 70 00:11:57,740 --> 00:12:04,640 up. So it's easily means you're going to not lose a lot of water seeping through. As water 71 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,080 tends to find a way we all know if you're a small lease of like that we'll get metal later. 72 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:11,880 We offer a constantly detection in our meters as well. Turn the page. 73 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:17,690 The batteries right now are 74 00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:23,050 designed to last 20 to 25 years. So if we put these meters in the ground, we're then likely you 75 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:31,670 will not touch as easily until 2050. So right now the way they're running is the first time they 76 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:36,250 We speak to our collector, they will speak loudly and the collector will give it the 77 00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:40,030 volume it needs to be at, that way it's not broadcasting more power and wasting energy 78 00:12:40,030 --> 00:12:40,830 from the battery. 79 00:12:42,610 --> 00:12:43,230 Turn the page. 80 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:48,970 We have one of the below it's return rates on meters right now. 81 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:56,990 Right now we're looking at 0.5% globally and 0.25% here in North America and that's about 82 00:12:56,990 --> 00:12:58,530 every three meters out of 1,000. 83 00:12:58,530 --> 00:13:05,590 and amtrak will give you that return list and they don't consider damage or, you know, 84 00:13:05,810 --> 00:13:08,790 hopefully anything returned to them is written down as a return. 85 00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:10,090 No matter what it is. 86 00:13:12,630 --> 00:13:13,330 Turn the page. 87 00:13:14,590 --> 00:13:16,370 We're going to do the explanation of what 88 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:25,690 is actually working to communicate. 89 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:46,430 So those of you those leaders will read and report every three hours, 90 00:13:47,190 --> 00:13:49,490 but they will repeat in 15-minute intervals. 91 00:13:49,490 --> 00:13:55,270 So whenever you get the reading from 7 to 10, it'll be 715, 735, 745. 92 00:13:55,450 --> 00:13:56,330 So he'll get the call 93 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,480 to the hotel, to the town's water. 94 00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:13,460 OK, so once you meet in those meters, we'll report. 95 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:17,130 Yeah. 96 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,700 We'll meet in the intervals. 97 00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:45,920 So I guess I'll want to begin. 98 00:14:46,020 --> 00:14:48,760 He'll get four readings for every hour. 99 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:52,040 So you get 96 readings per day. 100 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:54,400 Turn on the page. 101 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:59,650 This is some of the equipment that we need is going to come to you. 102 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,580 If he was in a grant meter, or you do on both the street, on the meter, you can use the 103 00:15:06,580 --> 00:15:09,040 reading you can work. I 104 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,740 DJ as well, so my mic's always going on. 105 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,000 We have what's called a histogram. 106 00:15:29,260 --> 00:15:36,500 So what you can do is you can go out to the meter using our optimal I. You can pull the every bit of 107 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:42,420 of that went through that meter is measured in the buckets so you can see what flow went 108 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:52,620 through that 0.00 to 0.04, 0.04, 1 to 0.09. You can see how much water is being used in 109 00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:58,440 certain buckets and the low flow has been through the ocean with a lead detection. So it's 110 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,700 when the water does offer on the customer's side, every meter comes with a customer's 111 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:09,100 So if the customer is told it's running, and there's continuous flow for 24 hours in that meter, it will alert you. 112 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,660 And while I'm talking about the customer later, if they've done it for that, it will alert them as well. 113 00:16:13,820 --> 00:16:16,860 So both people will get alerts if there is a leak on the customer side. 114 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:25,560 So a reading platform is called reading manager. Basically what it is is all your readings will come into that software. 115 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:32,680 that software will then buy your clerks, will be put into a file and uploaded to your billing system, 116 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,240 and that's all that I have to do as far as billing goes. There's nobody going out reading meters, 117 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,780 there's nobody going out checking meters, most of our meters were poor. We've dropped for a 90, 118 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,560 90.5% accuracy across the system over three days. 119 00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:48,980 So that's our goal when it comes to putting a meter system in. 120 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,740 We don't want anybody to have to run out and check meters or have to go out and troubleshoot things. 121 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,420 So, turning the page, you notice how we have the meter located at the utility. 122 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:05,660 Now, there's a AM watch that's a which is dropped by, which I have to drop by. 123 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,680 We're not talking very well. We're talking about AMI, which is going to be the actual reporting of the meters every day. 124 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Like I said, eight times a day, every three hours, 15-minute intervals. 125 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,820 Turn the page. 126 00:17:25,770 --> 00:17:29,070 You can kind of advance it if you want to later on, but it's basically to give you everything. 127 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:31,730 All this up is crowd hosting by Camtrip. 128 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:34,390 What we'll do is install the meters. 129 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:35,190 We'll put a collector. 130 00:17:35,390 --> 00:17:36,910 That collector will have a SIM card. 131 00:17:37,530 --> 00:17:39,730 That will go off whatever service you use for the city, 132 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:41,790 AT&T or Verizon, whichever one you choose. 133 00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:44,430 And then that will report to the cloud, 134 00:17:44,890 --> 00:17:46,190 which you have at Camtrip. 135 00:17:46,330 --> 00:17:47,750 And that will be submitted to your reading manager. 136 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:49,450 So your readings are instant. 137 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:51,590 Once it hits that for three hours, it goes and goes. 138 00:17:52,090 --> 00:17:53,970 I mean, you won't see a mix of anything. 139 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,060 Now, whenever you do look at your meters, 140 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,340 like whenever we do installations on meters, 141 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:04,720 we do GPS every meter that way you can put the coordinates in and you can go right to 142 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,360 where a meter is. We're usually within 5 feet of where the meter is. Now we can go deeper 143 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:14,140 with the GIS system and do it unless you'll have like already and have GIS to all your 144 00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:17,160 valves and so we can do that for you as far as the meters go if you need to. 145 00:18:19,230 --> 00:18:19,990 Turn the page. 146 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Because I will get a list of all your addresses and capture for them and I'm not sure if you 147 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,720 run a propagation study. So what they'll do is they'll use your tower location, the height 148 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,380 and they'll cast out through software to determine how much coverage is going to be done by that. 149 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:44,100 I feel, with the high-thead tower, I think you're going to cover every meter in the utility. 150 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:48,320 There'll be no outliers that will need external antennas or anything like that. 151 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:54,130 Turn on the page. 152 00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:57,530 We offer a turnkey system. 153 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:03,550 We go from all the way from project management to installation to integration. 154 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,530 So anything that has to do with your building company, 155 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:11,090 We as Ferguson are going to take care of integrating with billing you have no you will know what's going on 156 00:19:11,090 --> 00:19:14,270 We'll have meetings every week to tell you how it is. How many have been integrated 157 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:20,590 But we will handle all the integration of the key I use Tyler if I'm not correct and we currently do work with Tyler a bunch 158 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:25,230 Maybe are okay, so ABR is the other one that we work with quite well 159 00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:28,850 We have a form already set up that will give to utility 160 00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:34,350 We'll show you how it goes things will be filled in by our workers using a work order management system 161 00:19:34,770 --> 00:19:39,110 So whenever they go to a meter pit to change the meter, they'll take a picture of the 162 00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:42,630 house, a picture of the old meter for the last reading, they'll take a picture of the 163 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:45,890 installation in the picture of the house again, and you'll get those files that way you 164 00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:47,430 know what house got one meter. 165 00:19:47,890 --> 00:19:50,270 But then we're going to put that into a file and we're going to put it into a billing. 166 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:54,570 So your billing vendor will then know exactly where the meters are. 167 00:19:54,790 --> 00:19:59,250 So the way I would somebody with a project, if billing is correct, your reading is going 168 00:19:59,250 --> 00:19:59,690 to be correct. 169 00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:01,730 Because your billing will drive your reading. 170 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:04,190 on the page. 171 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Something that Camtrip offers that another meter offers is we offer what is 172 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,360 called a cursive leak detection. So what we offer is every meter, oxygen meter, actually 173 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:28,840 will give you leak detection on the customer side. Our meter, once again, all in one, we 174 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,700 also manage the main lines. So we manage the actual trunks that the lines are running off 175 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:39,180 that the city owns. So we're monitoring city owned lines for leaks. What we'll do is it'll 176 00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:44,420 listen with ultrasonic waves bouncing back and forth. It'll pinpoint where a meter is, or 177 00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:50,100 where a line is leaking and give you between typically two houses and it'll be louder towards one house. 178 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,200 So then we'll come out with a ground mic. We'll go around your family and you'll be able to find it. 179 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,480 It'll be early route where basically what we'll leave you is. It gives you an idea as opposed to 180 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,460 having somebody drive around and look for water on the ground. You know, like if you had any 181 00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:05,680 meaning main lines like a six-inch main blow or something like that. With the 182 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,380 concealed detection, you would have taken that leak before it ever saw the ground. 183 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,840 So you could have fixed it before it was all the news. We all know the 184 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,320 all the news. 185 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,600 The camshaft ALD, our readers monitor looking over about 80% of 186 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,080 non-revenue water. So on the chart you can see different types of like leak on the 187 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,260 main leaks that service lines, non-meter meter and accuracy, which is typically 188 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:34,840 your older meters are going to be less accurate when it comes to it, so 189 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:40,100 that's where my 190 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:40,480 cutoff. 191 00:21:42,740 --> 00:21:46,560 So on the next page you'll see types of links on the first service line. So you'll 192 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,900 have the one that is on the ground that everybody sees that are customers are calling and talking 193 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:55,920 about water on the road. You'll have a leak in this place, but the ones you don't see are 194 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,800 the ones that are underground that you know all leaks start off typically as a small pinhole 195 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:05,540 and leaks don't get smaller they just get bigger. So as the pipe is stressed, as it works 196 00:22:05,540 --> 00:22:09,600 pushing water, at least going to grow and grow. With the cruise lead detection, you'll 197 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:16,320 be able to see that lead before anybody else. So, you know, you could be replacing a 198 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,160 leak and people think you're just near check-in lines, but you know where the leaks are going 199 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,420 to be at, and the software will kind of give you a top 10, which ones you should address 200 00:22:25,420 --> 00:22:30,700 first, which ones are louder, which ones are needed of service right now. So, therefore, you'll 201 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,780 be able to send crews out that may be at one point in time of reading meters. Now, they 202 00:22:34,780 --> 00:22:36,640 you'll have to fix water lines when you find those leaks. 203 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Next page. 204 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:44,480 Lead protection strategy essentially is the system will assess it. 205 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040 It'll give you all the data you need to see where the leaks are at. 206 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:50,800 You'll localize what neighborhood, between what houses, between 207 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,820 on one street. 208 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,740 You run and investigate. You'll find the leak. You'll confirm it with your ground mic, 209 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,680 or real-time corridor, or whatever you're going to detect it. 210 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,300 And then you can put a repair report. 211 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:08,580 So now send your fixing align before anybody knew it needed to be fixed on the next page. 212 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:15,860 On the left you'll see a typical setup for any other vendor that is going to offer lead detection. 213 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:24,060 That box is going to be just filled with sensors with leaders and cables. 214 00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:38,280 We have no wires unless we need to get a better signal because it's so far away from the collector. 215 00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:47,060 If it's within range, we usually don't need one. I say maybe 1% tops is what we see on external antennas. 216 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,940 But on the last few products I've used, I haven't had to use any because the collectors have been that strong. 217 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:59,890 on the next page. You'll see all the customers in Texas. Around here we have 218 00:23:59,890 --> 00:24:06,310 Magnolia, Porter-Saud, Crystal Clear, Goblin's Planner Build uses our system. 219 00:24:07,210 --> 00:24:11,670 So there's a lot of references around here. Once again, what I do is I'm not going to 220 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:14,690 pick my best three, I'm showing you a multi. I'm going to give you every reference you 221 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:21,150 call you on. I trust the system enough that I don't have to pick and choose who you 222 00:24:21,150 --> 00:24:25,170 talk to. You can talk to anybody you want. I'll give you a nation wide if you want. Whoever 223 00:24:25,170 --> 00:24:30,510 I can give you want to talk to, I can get you a reference form. On the next page, it's 224 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:36,070 kind of a summary of the discretion stuff, like the experience of an ultrasonic, the campus 225 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:41,270 have been in the meter business for 75 years. They would do an ultrasonic 61991, which is 226 00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:48,290 longer than anybody in the manufacturing space. They've been primarily oversees, yes, but 227 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:51,190 but they've been in the U.S. since 2013, 228 00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:52,590 so they've been in every 13 years 229 00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:54,450 making the meters in coming to Georgia. 230 00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:59,250 You'll see they believe in reinvesting in innovation. 231 00:24:59,890 --> 00:25:04,210 They put 13.5% of any kind of profit just into R&D. 232 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:07,090 That's why they're able to offer 233 00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:09,450 the accreditation built into the meter 234 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:10,790 more than anybody else. 235 00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:14,570 You'll see the return of investment is there 236 00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:16,810 because you're not going to be returning meters. 237 00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:20,070 I mean, like I said, out of 1,000, you might return three. 238 00:25:20,530 --> 00:25:23,230 I'll return two, and that's because so much of a hammer to it. 239 00:25:23,470 --> 00:25:25,470 It wasn't because it broke somebody either with a hammer. 240 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:30,280 So moving on to the other things I was talking about. 241 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:32,900 We're talking about the Aquana flow well, which 242 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:38,280 is an automated valve that can be shut off from the utility. 243 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,620 So a lot of utilities use those for habitual offenders, 244 00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:42,620 so you're not paying their bill. 245 00:25:43,340 --> 00:25:45,900 As opposed to rolling the truck, standing somebody out there, 246 00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:47,020 cutting it off. 247 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:53,380 If you can just shut it off from the office, it makes it easy and makes it safe. 248 00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:58,060 I spoke with the gentleman today with a quanta and it reports every eight hours. 249 00:25:58,820 --> 00:26:03,300 So if water was turned off on Tuesday, customer comes in at 9 o'clock on Wednesday, their water 250 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:04,700 is turned on by the end of the day Wednesday. 251 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,980 So that makes it easier as far as not having to send a truck out with two people or one person 252 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:14,820 and to try to meet her off and turn her back on. 253 00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:18,440 The next thing I'll talk about is a customer portal. 254 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,900 We work with a company called H2 Analytics. 255 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,280 What they do is they offer an app or a website 256 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,800 that any customer can download and see their raw uses 257 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,460 in real time, just like you see it. 258 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,960 So they're going to see every three hours you get, 259 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,360 they're going to get the same exact readings 260 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,820 and be able to see where they're at. 261 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,060 It's also a lovely user for a notification system 262 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:40,900 because you can also, whoever signs up, 263 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:45,520 You can see on a math takes message you have say there's a water bowl somewhere and you have to sit it out 264 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,720 You can geolocate that area and say it's in a Texas. Hey, you're under a water bowl until notified notification 265 00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:56,820 I've seen people use it for as much as hey trash is gonna run on Wednesday and not Tuesday this week 266 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:01,540 So it's it's a it's a way for the customer to stay connected to their 267 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,820 Bill as opposed to getting it on the 17 to wherever bills go out and be like I use that much water 268 00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:10,060 So the customer, if they want to, they can set limits. 269 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:12,440 Like if they want to use 3000 gallons every month, 270 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,980 they can set a limit, and the pool that will tell them 271 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:16,260 when they're getting close to that limit. 272 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,880 They can move it, they can slide it with it if they have to, 273 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:22,340 but the limits will help them as far as being able 274 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:23,860 to maintain their water bill. 275 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,840 That way they know every month this is what I'm going to get. 276 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,700 This is what I'm going to get. 277 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,540 That helps the customer, like I said, 278 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,060 stay in touch with their bill. 279 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:34,080 Next up is the funding aspect of it. 280 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,260 I work with a company called Government Capital. 281 00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:40,180 I've been working with land and I'm waiting on an updated list on all the measures that 282 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:42,820 way I can do an actual formal quote. 283 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:48,220 I've been working with them, on here you'll see things along with are going to need 284 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:52,280 the last three years on its incurring your budget. 285 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,480 That's all they need for approval if you move forward with us and with government capital. 286 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,540 It's a fairly easy process. 287 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,720 The best thing about government capital is your first payment isn't due until a year from 288 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,540 the time you sound the contract. So if you sound the contract on January 1, 2026, your 289 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:15,100 first bill is not due until January 1, 2027. So you have a year to recoup any kind of 290 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:19,980 residuals that you are missing out on with the ability to look at it. Right now I've been 291 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:25,080 I've been working with Landon who is my contact vehicle and the project will cost approximately 292 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,380 about a million dollars. They offer five, seven, and ten year loans. I've seen it right 293 00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:37,320 Right now, on what we have with you guys, I see the five years at 5.1%, the seven years 294 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,060 at 5.2, I believe, and then the 10 years at 5.3. 295 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,900 So if you were the 10-year-long, your first payment would be around $130,000. 296 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,140 So you can either, after four years, you can buy it out, you don't have to go the full 297 00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:51,320 10. 298 00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:54,160 If you make enough money, you want to buy it out right, you can do that any time. 299 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:59,520 but as it goes, your payment is going to stay the same until the end of the contract. 300 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,680 So, in essence, 301 00:29:06,650 --> 00:29:12,430 Ferguson is trying to be a kind of a one-stop shop when it comes to non-revenue water 302 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:16,650 because that's what is really pushing, especially in Texas, that non-revenue water 303 00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:20,450 or something they're really pushing on is making sure you maintain your water, water loss. 304 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:24,370 We work with the City of El Paso. There are 300,000 endpoints. 305 00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:29,110 Their non-revenue water was at 19 percent. 306 00:29:29,710 --> 00:29:34,010 We're about of a third of the way, if not halfway through with the project, and we drop it down to 9 percent. 307 00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:39,110 Just by changing the meters and picking up those low flows, finding those leaks, they're using ALD2. 308 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:44,230 So there's benefits to using everything that we have. 309 00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:46,010 We have anywhere from pressure monitoring. 310 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:50,050 We have predictive learning that will tell you about pipes that might break in seven years. 311 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:54,690 So we do a lot of things that are just, I focus on on it, non-revenue water. 312 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:58,550 That's all I do. I don't do anything else, but we do so by fills and fittings, obviously. 313 00:29:58,550 --> 00:29:59,670 Over there. 314 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:27,920 I mean, that's really what I got for you. I went a little longer than I wanted to. And so, uh, we'll have, I appreciate you staying here. Yes, sir. I'm going through it. But we do have a one or a presentation that did not. So we'll have you if you have this. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be questions in regards to what I said. You're going to welcome to ask me. I'll answer that's in my ability to take with me. We've come to ask some questions. Yeah. Any kind of question you got into 315 00:30:33,650 --> 00:30:34,290 your system. 316 00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:41,570 If we move forward, let's just say the cards fall online, we go this month by March, I've 317 00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:49,910 got your system fully deployed in the ground working, I guess once again, we don't leave 318 00:30:49,910 --> 00:30:53,350 a project until we're 98.5% accurate over a 3-day period. 319 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:57,870 So if all of those, all of them is report in 3-day period, we can say that they're success 320 00:30:58,430 --> 00:31:03,550 because if your meter does miss a reading, whenever that reading comes back through, all 321 00:31:03,550 --> 00:31:06,510 information in the backfill so you'll still have all that stuff. 322 00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:12,990 Yes sir. 323 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:21,820 I took your 324 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:23,500 mic. Sorry. We 325 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,500 will install the meters for you. Yeah. 326 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:38,940 Yes. 327 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,860 Yeah. We will install every 328 00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:48,000 meter that we sell to you through this project. We do all the way up to 12 inch meters. I'm 329 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,540 not sure if you have a thing. I think Florence might be the biggest one we talked about 330 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:55,400 maybe being in the system, but we do all the 12 inch. We will install every meter in the 331 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,680 contract. 332 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:05,210 Anybody? 333 00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:14,980 So those leaders will go in the same place that the leaders will listen in? 334 00:32:15,220 --> 00:32:15,540 Yes, ma'am. 335 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:17,380 Overdoers will go to the house. 336 00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:19,000 Take a picture of your old leader. 337 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,140 They'll be a picture of that. 338 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,860 With the serial number, this type of that house. 339 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,020 For the reading, they'll be a picture of the house. 340 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:25,260 So you know what, the same address. 341 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:28,600 They'll then take a picture of the new leader after it's installed. 342 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,800 And a picture of the house. 343 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,960 And all those five overs, all those pictures, will be in one file per every address. 344 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,600 So you'll be able to go through to verify that. 345 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,100 So you'll be able to tell that it was at that house. 346 00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:59,370 So what will happen is the readings will come in whenever you're ready to be building, 347 00:32:59,650 --> 00:33:04,910 you'll put all those readings into a file, you'll upload it to ABR and ABR does the rest. 348 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:08,820 No sir. 349 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:10,840 No sir. 350 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:16,260 Yeah, it's really streamlined. 351 00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:20,440 Like I said, you'll see all the readings on the computer and when it's time you're building, 352 00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:21,320 you literally click. 353 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,460 I think it's like three buttons. 354 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:23,640 It'll make a file. 355 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:30,080 You'll go to the AVR system, you'll upload that file, and then they'll disseminate them through the actual customers. 356 00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:32,420 Yes, ma'am. 357 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:37,390 Right now it's about a million dollars for the entire project. 358 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:46,170 Installation, meters, everything that entails us through the meters in will cost about a million. 359 00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:51,030 I'm waiting on the actual numbers of addresses. I'll be running and I'll give back with a million on a price. 360 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:51,150 Yes. 361 00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:54,130 Yes, ma'am. 362 00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,240 Yeah, y'all will approve if we do anything. 363 00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:03,200 We don't move forward until we're in. 364 00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:05,320 So, unless you have a contract of your own, you'd like to use. 365 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:11,360 There is. 366 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:12,560 Yes, ma'am. 367 00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:13,460 That is true. 368 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,880 If we did a pilot program with you guys and put meters in the ground, then you would be 369 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160 adding to current city stock and you wouldn't have to go off or bid. 370 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,420 Yes, ma'am. 371 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,980 As far as making the payment, you would have to put it in the budget to make that payment 372 00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:45,440 every year. 373 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:29,270 Ten years. 374 00:35:29,850 --> 00:35:30,330 Yes, ma'am. 375 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:31,010 Yes, ma'am. 376 00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:31,630 Ten years. 377 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,760 I would talk with government cabinet to get that information, I haven't seen anybody have 378 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,780 to do that, but I mean, typically a system, once you're moving away from, I'm not exactly 379 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:50,820 sure how old your meters are, but if they're 20 years old, the system is probably going 380 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:55,860 to pay for itself in the first three or four years, as far as just recouping lost revenues. 381 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,060 Yes, sir. 382 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:01,440 Yes, sir. 383 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:02,080 Yes, sir. 384 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,060 As you know, sir. 385 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,780 Our customers complained about what they're paying now. 386 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:06,200 Yes, sir. 387 00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:12,300 We talked about your version of the increase based on the use of data 388 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:13,180 across the region. 389 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:14,120 Yes, sir. 390 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,680 Yes, sir. 391 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:15,620 Yes, sir. 392 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:15,700 Yes, sir. 393 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:15,920 Yes, sir. 394 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,360 Yes, sir. 395 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,660 Yes, sir. 396 00:36:29,490 --> 00:36:35,470 So when you made that determination of the cost, you did take into consideration that 397 00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:41,950 you looked at not enough people who actually lived here and the rest of the students, 398 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:46,250 and just look at that when you made a determination on what the cost was. 399 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:56,110 What I've done is I took an estimated cost and estimated size of the utility. I don't know exactly how many meters are in this. I'll quote it by meter. However many meters aren't that's how it'll be quoted. 400 00:36:56,650 --> 00:37:03,650 If there's 1200 meters, I think right now I put it at like 1600 meters. I'm not exactly sure how many meters you have in the system. 401 00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:09,070 It'll be lower than a million for the pocket. 402 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:11,750 Right, that's the point. 403 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:12,790 Yes. 404 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:13,410 That's one billion. 405 00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:20,150 The citizens were thinking, well, if they can do that. 406 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:22,850 That's part of the community. 407 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:26,030 So, I'm assuming... 408 00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:26,870 It's called the community there. 409 00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:29,030 It's called the place going in. 410 00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:31,370 And so... 411 00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:32,230 Just a meter size. 412 00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:36,890 like if there's one meter going through the apartment complex I'm sure the 413 00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:40,850 tennis gets charged and all right you'll be charged you just that one meter 414 00:37:40,850 --> 00:37:43,070 that one meter going on the ground anything that's reading 415 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:08,210 I'm certainly. 416 00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:11,390 Yes. 417 00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:12,270 Yes. 418 00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:12,790 Yes. 419 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:12,870 Yes. 420 00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:16,710 Other initiatives that I would like to see for for you. 421 00:38:16,930 --> 00:38:18,690 Or to make it into ways of my. 422 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:20,650 I want to make sure that it's not. 423 00:38:24,590 --> 00:38:27,050 To understand that and the way I usually express it. 424 00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:32,770 Council is, we all know that typically the water department is the cash 425 00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:39,770 register for the utility. That's how you make money. So I would say as you're 426 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:43,770 making money, I'm sure as you're saving money, you're getting this in and 427 00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:47,250 we're creating a living there, you'll be able to invest more in the community. 428 00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:48,450 Yes, ma'am. 429 00:38:58,510 --> 00:38:59,330 Yes, ma'am. 430 00:38:59,350 --> 00:38:59,850 Yes, ma'am. 431 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,120 Your first name. 432 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,780 Your first name. 433 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,820 Every year. 434 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:13,700 Every year. 435 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:13,960 Every year. 436 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,560 I'm the same day. 437 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,800 So how will we be able to make a large deal of it? 438 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680 Again, we take it all into consideration. 439 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,380 A whole operation on a system itself. 440 00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:31,260 Well, maybe before we go, 441 00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:32,600 and that's what we're adding here, 442 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:40,580 I just kind of ran some numbers for it for a year and told him I was 530 or so, it'll 443 00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:40,920 be less. 444 00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:44,360 Right now I have, I elevated the meter so I have more meters voted. 445 00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:47,440 I can take about 500 meters off of there so that's going to drop the price. 446 00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:49,680 I just put out 130 pounds. 447 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,200 Yes sir. 448 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,340 And if the slope, what you do is you put your budget together, you add another 130,000 to it 449 00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:57,320 to the cost. 450 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,240 Now, can we, can we evolve another hundred thirty thousand cups? 451 00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:04,620 Well, we're going to look at the overall system. 452 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:06,180 We're going to look at the revenue. 453 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,160 Well, that's what we're going to need at the beginning. 454 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,740 Well, yeah, you're going to take that the second year, not the first year. 455 00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:15,800 Because it won't be a part of your budget. 456 00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:19,920 It's the second year when you have to start making the payments. 457 00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:26,660 But as mayor stated, we can look at the first year in different hundred thirty thousand. 458 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:34,060 I can say 130,000 by 10 years, and that will decrease the amount of pain over 10-year 459 00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:34,360 periods. 460 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,040 Well, we have to, I can't just sit at the night, but we'll go for it. 461 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,160 Well, based on what you've given us, we don't sit down and we'll do a determination. 462 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:57,860 We'll get back in, we can let you know if you please. 463 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:05,020 Maybe I'll look at this incorrectly, but also since we know that there is a new format and 464 00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:08,940 that we want you to do, it's coming in, you will take that into consideration. 465 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,760 And so, yeah. 466 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,900 So, when you look at other opportunities, you'll have that in mind as you consider what 467 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:26,080 Yes, like I told you, we will sit down and now say when you don't do your budget price. 468 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:32,280 We'll do that now to see if we can work this in. 469 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,120 And now the way we figure out how to work, as you say, is anything you can buy in the money. 470 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,560 Okay, so let's just leave this. 471 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360 Yeah, for sure. 472 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,420 Installing these meters, as you've indicated, 473 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,560 we've been wanting to be sure before where there had to be 474 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,040 a physical determination of where the leak was, 475 00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:56,380 and then, of course, we find that in things of this nature. 476 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,180 But while it's leaking, the citizen is paying more money 477 00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:03,400 because the leak is there and the water is wet, 478 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,760 but now with this, you can be terminated very quickly, 479 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,060 which would ultimately save the citizens money. 480 00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:11,500 And more of the day. 481 00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:14,800 The way, the way ALD will accuse the detection works 482 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,640 through the meter for the customer side. 483 00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:19,040 If there's continuous flow of the meter for 24 hours, 484 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,300 a leak alarm is going to alert. 485 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:22,500 If they're not signed up for the customer formal, 486 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:24,380 the utility will get that alert. 487 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,340 So if a leak started yesterday at this time, 488 00:42:27,580 --> 00:42:29,000 right now, reading you would pop off 489 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,940 and a leak alarm for an address, 490 00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,260 you'll be able to say, you had a call and say, 491 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,480 I believe you have a toilet running 492 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,620 or you may be able to leak at your house, 493 00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:43,220 Maybe you want to investigate. So you'll be able to tell if it's on the citizen side with the with ALD through the meter on 494 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:46,680 The main line you'll be able to wear yearly surat on your side 495 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,300 So you'll be able to determine which side of the meter the link is on 496 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,960 Yes, correct 497 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,280 right. Also as far as the bill and you get you going to bill so when there's a complaint 498 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:06,920 will they call you. Anything with this as far as the bill. As far as going to the customer 499 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,320 that'll be that'll be on the city. I will help where I can but but you're going to charge 500 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,280 them yourself. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What are you going to do? 501 00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:20,820 That's okay. 502 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,300 as far as as far as the building goes we work with the building vendor to make 503 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,740 sure the bill goes out correctly so the bill is still coming from the utility 504 00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:34,580 just like it does now so they'll be paying the city the bill my bill is only 505 00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:38,380 for the contract that we have signed as far as the installation and the 506 00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:45,560 meters. Yes ma'am. I understand that. That's why I almost brought a screen to put up and yeah. 507 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,260 One other question. Yes ma'am. 508 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,360 Yes. 509 00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:56,880 10-year-old. 10-year-old. 10-year-old. Yes ma'am. 510 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:04,640 And you are located. I have a branch in South Houston and one in Umbul. My meter depot is located in 511 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,420 I'm local. This is my area. I cover this area. If you go to this project, you will see 512 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:16,680 me probably every two months asking how things are going, what I can do. Like we're talking 513 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,260 about with the customers having leaks on their side. A lot of utilities who have a ground 514 00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:25,120 mic will go out and assist the customer. Like with their mic, found the leaks. Hey, you 515 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,360 have a leak right here. That way they're not digging out the entire yard trying to find 516 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:28,620 a leak. 517 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,880 Yes sir. 518 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:57,200 The meaters right now the meaters come they're hermetically sealed so they're food grade sealed so you can't get into them. 519 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960 So if one's busted what will happen is you'll get 520 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:18,960 I'm going to get with me. We'll do a warranty return. Cameras will give a yay or a nay and then they'll send you a replacement. I've never seen them say nay. Because I said that I said, when you're going with three out of every thousand, it's pretty. Yes, yes, yes. And that's the one thing like you will be able to see. 521 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:29,840 I can say, I don't want to have sent back a minute with hammer. It was still reading, you just couldn't read. It was still sending the readings. 522 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480 things every day, just like normal. You just couldn't read the screen. There's only 523 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,060 thing you couldn't do. 524 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,280 Right now, our batteries are lasting 20 to 25 years. 525 00:45:49,450 --> 00:45:50,390 Now, we can do, 526 00:45:51,010 --> 00:45:56,130 if you need like other things like, if the meter box is needed to replace, I can do that 527 00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:59,510 as well during the contract. We can go out and look at it and see if you don't want to 528 00:45:59,510 --> 00:46:04,030 add any of that stuff to there. But we can do everything around that meter box we can take 529 00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:06,990 You all said you all did a little on survey, so we're going to worry about that 530 00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:17,230 To the tower 531 00:46:27,590 --> 00:46:33,270 Money as far as truck rolls as far as employees hourly like you said you can now retrain those employees to be 532 00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:36,410 working on things like that if you find stuff like that 533 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:49,300 we have a help desk that 534 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:59,860 you can call any time no no sir right now we do is because we we are the only 535 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:04,520 distributor in Texas for campship so we own the entire thing so if you have we 536 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,820 have a help desk set up like if you have information with billing or if a 537 00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:10,980 meter is doing something weird you can contact our help desk and they will 538 00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:14,180 they will walk you through what you need to do though they can tap into your 539 00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:18,100 computer and show you where to go to fix things so we take care of everything 540 00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:24,940 yes 541 00:47:30,890 --> 00:47:34,410 yeah what I can do I can always I can always come back and speak to you one 542 00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:37,950 on one I don't mind come back doing a larger presentation yes we got 543 00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:41,350 question? Yes sir, it would not be in any room for 544 00:47:41,350 --> 00:47:45,370 local participation as far as installations. Right, 545 00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:48,830 we can talk to our installation vendors and see if they 546 00:47:48,830 --> 00:47:51,710 want to maybe get some higher some local help you. I can 547 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:55,030 talk to them. I usually use the same crews, but right now we 548 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:57,590 have a lot of them that are I have jobs going on where 549 00:47:57,590 --> 00:48:00,050 they're like I have one vendor that has three installers, but 550 00:48:00,050 --> 00:48:02,670 he has three jobs going on so we split those guys off and 551 00:48:02,670 --> 00:48:07,930 they typically do the higher local. The job I get to the 552 00:48:08,650 --> 00:48:15,430 three months and then it'll be done, but then at the same time you have you know 553 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:19,890 some kind of help as far as but those guys once again those guys pick up people 554 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:23,450 and they become part of their crews too and so they're traveling and stuff like that 555 00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:28,370 so there's one other question. Yes sir. You mentioned the initial payment. Yes sir. 556 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:32,270 That payment is required to be all. 557 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,640 We'll do the job your payment is not due for the 558 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,420 first year. Once you sound the contract your first payment is not due to a year 559 00:48:39,420 --> 00:48:39,720 from that. 560 00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:45,960 No deposit. 561 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,000 One year from that day. 562 00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:06,250 Now what you can do is also I've seen 563 00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:12,230 other utilities when they're in the process of working this out they'll ask for 564 00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:15,590 extended period like I've seen people get 15 months because you've got three 565 00:49:15,590 --> 00:49:19,550 months for installation so you're not actually using the meters so if you say 566 00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:22,510 if you ask if you said this when you in government capital but I would say some 567 00:49:22,510 --> 00:49:25,530 online is like you know can we make our first payment when the system goes live 568 00:49:27,330 --> 00:49:31,210 yeah because then then then you're you're keeping the the the the loss 569 00:49:31,210 --> 00:49:34,490 revenue you weren't getting now you're recouping it to put towards that payment 570 00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:34,970 in here. 571 00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:47,940 You can you can do a pilot program and then you're adding 572 00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:51,040 inventory to cities already stock. 573 00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:55,680 Usually we usually run a pilot three 574 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,800 months but that's up to y'all y'all can determine if you're gonna move forward 575 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,160 with it and you want to put a pilot on the ground you can put a pilot on the ground 576 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,780 for a month and then move forward. 577 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,920 What we'll do is, what we'll do is, it depends on how many meters we put in the ground. 578 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000 We'll put a collector up, we'll give you access to READY. 579 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:19,040 So you'll have a system that it'll be monitoring anywhere from 40 to 100 meters and then once 580 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,040 that goes, we'll come and install and we'll do all that. 581 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,840 That means if there's a pilot program, then that's kind of something that's the bidding problem. 582 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,540 Yes, ma'am. 583 00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:32,670 And I guess we'll talk about circumventing the pilot process. 584 00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:33,770 Yes. 585 00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:39,510 At the end of the pilot, are you coming back and bringing data that helps you in the next week? 586 00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:40,950 I'll talk to you every week. 587 00:50:41,350 --> 00:50:48,490 But what I'm saying is, it seems like by rules, we still need to maintain this from other companies. 588 00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:53,790 And from my understanding, no, I can verify that and get you documentation that says that. 589 00:50:54,330 --> 00:51:01,090 But that's what a lot of people, a lot of other customers have done is put a pilot 590 00:51:01,090 --> 00:51:05,410 in the ground and then you're just adding meters to, you know, already on stock for the 591 00:51:05,410 --> 00:51:05,830 utility. 592 00:51:07,450 --> 00:51:11,610 So there's a pilot program, of course, it does not rub, 593 00:51:14,730 --> 00:51:15,950 okay, it does under the threshold, 594 00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:18,410 but it does not obligate the city to move forward. 595 00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:19,790 Not at all. 596 00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:21,670 Not at all. 597 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:23,490 I want to prove a concept. 598 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:31,430 Like I like the pilot because I can prove a proof of concept. 599 00:51:31,650 --> 00:51:32,590 I can show you that it works. 600 00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:34,250 I can show you what you're going to find. 601 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:39,790 You know, I can do a full-scale AMI with acoustic detection and pilot or just an AMI pilot. 602 00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:40,570 It shows you the readings. 603 00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:45,570 So we could do both at the same time and then you're going to get the data as far as, 604 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:49,490 you know, seeing what acoustic detection can do as far as finding leaks. 605 00:51:49,550 --> 00:51:53,130 So you're probably going to, if we go for three months, more than likely with acoustic detection, 606 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:54,270 you're going to find leaks in the ground. 607 00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:55,850 Yes. 608 00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:56,570 Yes. 609 00:51:57,130 --> 00:52:01,690 There is another company in Texas that is doing the same program. 610 00:52:02,370 --> 00:52:02,670 No. 611 00:52:03,310 --> 00:52:06,310 But we are the only ones that offer AMI with the facility protection. 612 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:07,330 We are the only ones. 613 00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:11,690 So pretty much it would be without you guys that you know the company that will come back with 614 00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:12,290 me to that. 615 00:52:12,810 --> 00:52:13,130 Yes. 616 00:52:13,350 --> 00:52:20,450 You could have another vendor bid at just AMI but most vendors aren't going to bid AMI with 617 00:52:20,450 --> 00:52:23,850 ALD because they are having to go to a second source for the ALD. 618 00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:57,750 I'll get back with the government capital once I have the numbers and have an actual 619 00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:00,950 proposal from the government capital that way you can look at the actual numbers. 620 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,600 Okay? 621 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480 I didn't hear the answer to the question about the company. 622 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,520 There are other... 623 00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:14,420 No, no, they don't, the way we have ours built into the meter. 624 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,560 You have one unit that does AMI and AOD altogether. 625 00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:21,160 Like you can go with another one, like you can go with a badger, but they'll have to get 626 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,980 here next to do the accouture detection. So there's not a one-stop shop. It's all in one meter. 627 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,180 Yes. All that clues have been used out one meter. 628 00:53:38,740 --> 00:53:43,680 Did they have automatic leak detection in the main? 629 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,400 Yeah, I have no wires. You'll see in the end of the package you'll see is a little stubby 630 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,080 antenna that's all it is. And then normally with another AMI system you have to drill 631 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,560 a hole in the lid hanging antenna from it. So now you've got a three foot wire somebody 632 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,480 How many grabs that too? Or they can rip the wires apart. 633 00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:19,200 Yes. 634 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,140 We can come out and install them, or we can teach you how to do them. 635 00:54:26,140 --> 00:54:26,420 Okay. 636 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,600 I appreciate you allowing me to come. 637 00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:34,780 Thank you. 638 00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:35,760 I'll deal with that. 639 00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:36,500 We'll get together. 640 00:54:58,490 --> 00:54:59,210 Thank you. 641 00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:02,570 Thank you. 642 00:55:07,710 --> 00:55:08,670 I don't 643 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:29,800 know if Mr. Gerrard is here, she was gone back to front of the place, but if she dies, I can tell you, in Bill Capri, she requested speaking back, speaking back again, I thought I'd talk a lot about Bill Capri, didn't you? 644 00:55:33,980 --> 00:55:39,380 and the citizens in the bill to pre-requested speed bumps to be put in. 645 00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:47,360 She says that there is a lot of speeding and they have children and they are afraid that something could possibly happen. 646 00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:58,860 So at this time, the request has been evaluated along with possibly having one-way streets only because of the narrow width of the roads there. 647 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:07,880 And also, the one-way streets would allow, according to our engineer, allow us to get a longer 648 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,740 life out of the road because, again, it's narrow, we'd recommend that we do one-way streets. 649 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,540 Now, I've asked Chief White to also evaluate the requests based on the proposed speed limits 650 00:56:22,540 --> 00:56:23,840 that they're requesting. 651 00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:31,230 In addition to that, the roads itself, they are still in dispute. 652 00:56:32,310 --> 00:56:37,510 So at this time, we would have to get legal advice, because if we place speed bumps, 653 00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:40,410 it may create an issue with warranty on the road. 654 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:55,700 The issue is about the one way of a family, about, and that's the road that is in dispute, 655 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,340 the end of the entire day, could it? 656 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,500 Those streets, it's more than one. 657 00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:05,620 We almost have to do that because it's right not to live potential liability issue for the city 658 00:57:05,620 --> 00:57:11,760 and to minimize that, Mr. Provider, would you say that that would be the thing that helped you minimize that issue 659 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:18,080 because of the way the road was, because it was the narrowness of the road, 660 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:25,420 it's prohibited for two cars to go down and so it almost is a necessity to do the one way 661 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,620 minimum so that there won't be liability on us because of the work that was done on the 662 00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:33,700 That's correct. 663 00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:45,840 So I'm going to call for a speaking 664 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:53,440 that's in September 22nd of the Council and saying that they were no longer going to work in cooperation with the community. 665 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,600 I'm going to suggest that it was a private organization with its own community. 666 01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:15,460 Any documentation on the staff, so it is a no-no-no-no-no-no-no 667 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:26,340 -no-no-no 668 01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:29,780 -no. 669 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:16,500 I have to accept, right, that the national race for the United States is bigger than I am. 670 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:18,840 You have to have this. 671 01:06:20,380 --> 01:06:24,500 What the, well, I met with a non-developed being. 672 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:28,300 And if non-developed being developed is better. 673 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,760 But my attitude is better. 674 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,520 What happened is not to go with what you said. 675 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:44,180 I'm not going to come, but if you were to, not ask if you could fly with me or leave, I ask if you could. 676 01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:44,820 If 677 01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:52,440 you're leaving, you're not going to let me show you how to do that. 678 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,400 No, I don't have any reason why I shouldn't do that. 679 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,300 Because this was developed using the best way that we had, 680 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,800 at the time before the budget together, since the year 25. 681 01:07:55,180 --> 01:08:05,360 I'm just saying that my understanding is that the Council movement wants to make sure 682 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:17,360 after all information is turned in on the previous year, but I'm not sure what, you know, 683 01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:22,500 that's going to be all around this year's operation, that she's operating. 684 01:08:27,230 --> 01:08:30,990 I would have been a question. 685 01:08:34,190 --> 01:08:34,790 Well, 686 01:08:38,210 --> 01:08:42,030 that's in process in the current year's actual activity. 687 01:08:42,830 --> 01:08:50,850 There is a month, and I still try to maintain that month, so I can come forward to be an accountant 688 01:08:50,850 --> 01:08:52,690 for the prior year. 689 01:08:54,530 --> 01:09:00,850 This is a matter of getting copies of that information to be able to complete the account. 690 01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:49,560 How do you learn it at the county to mention that, okay, so all of us are trying to make sure that there's a lot of regulation. 691 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,120 You didn't have one, so that's why I didn't have one. 692 01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:09,180 I've requested the information, so I'm waiting to get that information, so there's an 693 01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:09,680 item to build. 694 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:16,520 But for the budget, it has really no bearing on it. 695 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,420 All right, I'm going to have to go to the dean. 696 01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:25,260 There's any questions whether or not you stay with my service. 697 01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:27,260 Excuse me. 698 01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:29,200 All right. 699 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,540 I'm going to go right up on whether or not I can tie my accounting system 700 01:10:34,540 --> 01:10:36,040 to the bank and what I have to do. 701 01:10:36,140 --> 01:10:38,800 Which has nothing to do with current year process. 702 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:38,920 Yes. 703 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:39,940 Okay. 704 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,540 The officer wants to know, and it's true, because it's an open forum where people can 705 01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:45,900 now include human rights. 706 01:10:46,660 --> 01:10:51,840 Because, you know, the people can just ask questions of you while counsel is here. 707 01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:58,480 And so, for security purposes, you'd like to know whether it's just an open forum. 708 01:10:59,020 --> 01:10:59,500 No, no. 709 01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:07,440 I do this in relation to the relationship that is close to the deal that is not good enough. 710 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,660 It is not good enough. 711 01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:11,200 It is not good enough. 712 01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:13,440 It is not good enough. 713 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,420 It is not good enough. 714 01:11:16,820 --> 01:11:18,620 I don't want to talk about it. 715 01:11:18,780 --> 01:11:18,960 What? 716 01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:23,500 And what did you ask the question of the person that is not good enough? 717 01:12:58,140 --> 01:13:12,520 Okay, because it's just like one time it says, y'all did the food and y'all retained the information that passed out to you tonight, because that will be the budget that's going to be the budget. 718 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,280 It's okay, you're ready? 719 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,500 I can start the round. 720 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,600 Pardon? 721 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:21,280 I can't see if I get the information. 722 01:13:24,410 --> 01:13:25,910 I can't see all the details. 723 01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:26,650 I can't see the information. 724 01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:28,410 It's okay. 725 01:13:29,010 --> 01:13:29,610 I 726 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:32,540 can start the round. 727 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,150 I can't see the information. 728 01:13:54,710 --> 01:13:58,470 You ask him, wouldn't he be ready by the people in the next two days? 729 01:13:58,710 --> 01:14:00,170 He said, as long as he gets the document. 730 01:14:01,010 --> 01:14:06,550 If you get the document and we're going to find you, instead of putting something on the agenda, 731 01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:13,890 and it's not ready, it's ready, so it's ready, and if you actually know it's ready, 732 01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:21,070 Then we can put it on the agenda, because it can't control third parties, you know, so that just continues to bog down the agenda 733 01:14:21,070 --> 01:14:23,310 where we're sitting here to talk about it. 734 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:26,990 When the issue may not be with, that's to talk about. 735 01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:30,430 He's waiting for information to come. 736 01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:31,430 Yeah.