1 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:44,120 Committee. 2 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:40,560 Okay. 3 00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:52,810 Testing, testing, testing, testing. It looks like it is because of the live streaming. 4 00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:55,150 Okay, 5 00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:58,610 up or not, let's move forward. 6 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:21,320 Moving right along. Council, we have the consent agenda. 7 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:28,320 Four items, consider routine will be approved all at one time unless somebody would like to remove one for separate discussion. 8 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,120 I have a motion from Ron, for which no second is required to approve the consent agenda. 9 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,220 Roll call vote, Adam. 10 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,580 Ms. Bartelt. 11 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,040 Yes. 12 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,040 Mr. Vallett. 13 00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:41,100 Yes. 14 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,980 Mr. Aniel. 15 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:42,720 I. 16 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,780 Mr. Rodell. 17 00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:44,240 Yes. 18 00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:45,220 Ms. Lawrence. 19 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:45,580 Yes. 20 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,660 Mr. Graves. 21 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:47,180 I. 22 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:48,220 Mr. Sellers. 23 00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:48,900 I. 24 00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:49,800 Mr. Robinson. 25 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,380 Yes. 26 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,420 Mr. O'Toole. 27 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:52,340 Yes. 28 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,360 Sellers. 29 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,100 I. 30 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,080 Mr. Nelson. 31 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:55,460 Yes. 32 00:41:55,460 --> 00:42:03,460 Mr. Logan, that is unanimous all four items including our Mission Hills Police Contract 33 00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:05,880 are approved in the consent agenda. 34 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:14,120 Next committee reports, we have any committee reports, Nathan, and then Nick. 35 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:16,960 Thanks, Mayor. 36 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,040 I wanted to talk about team council. 37 00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:22,000 We are bringing it back. 38 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,200 we've talked about it a little bit before, but the application is live on the 39 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,300 city website. For those of you who are not aware of what team council is, the 40 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:35,500 mission of the council is to give local students an opportunity to learn and 41 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:40,300 actively participate in municipal government, develop as leaders, and impact our 42 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:51,980 community at the same time. The student must be a Prairie Village resident, or a 43 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:58,900 senior high school student, and so that program that, like I said, the application has started 44 00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:04,380 the application window will end on September 15th, so it actually opened on August 15th, 45 00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:09,520 so we've got one month there. There will be learning sessions with City Hall, Public 46 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:16,380 Safety, Public Works, Municipal Court, and more to come on all of that, but I encourage 47 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:20,960 everyone out there to, if you know any teenagers in the community, that might want some leadership 48 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,800 experience and get to work with some of us on council as well as staff and learn a little 49 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,300 bit more about the city and the process. Please encourage them to do the program. I'm glad 50 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:35,460 it's back. I'm really excited about it and people who used to take part in the program 51 00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:40,340 really did make an impact positively in Prairie Village and so I'd encourage that and you 52 00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:44,200 will start seeing some signs and things around town. So if you've already questions about 53 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,260 that, feel free to reach out to me directly or staff and we're excited to get it going. 54 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:50,980 So, there you go. 55 00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,500 Thanks, Nathan, for stepping up. 56 00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:56,200 That's been one of my favorite things we've done over the years. 57 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,780 We didn't do it last year, but we're resuming it. 58 00:43:58,900 --> 00:43:59,580 And you're right. 59 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,940 Some of these alumni from this program, they come back. 60 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,120 Now they're in college. They went to West Point. 61 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:07,480 They're starting jobs. Some in municipal government. 62 00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:09,860 And talking about what a great experience this was. 63 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040 So, look forward to welcoming them. Thank you, Nathan. 64 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,120 Nick. 65 00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:23,960 This is just more of an announcement for Ward 5, that's here and I have planned our Ward 5 Council meeting for the public for residents. 66 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,960 It's September 14, 630 to 730 at the Metabook Clubhouse. 67 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,100 So people should be receiving an invite if they have not already, but just FYI, everybody. 68 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,060 I don't know if you want anything. 69 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,980 All right, that's it. 70 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,600 Great. Thanks for doing that, you guys. 71 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:39,760 Yes. 72 00:44:40,220 --> 00:44:41,740 Any other committee reports? 73 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:43,540 Okay. 74 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:51,000 The mayor's report, since we last met folks, we had another ribbon cutting event. 75 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,740 I saw Nathan, probably others there, at the flower child restaurant open in the corn 76 00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:57,380 shops. 77 00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:59,860 A great well attended event. 78 00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:28,880 I encourage you to check out that healthy food offering in the shops. On Friday, I was able to attend the Mid-America Regional Council annual regional assembly lunch in awards downtown. We had a standing ovation there for outgoing executive director, David Warm, was his last meeting in that role. And look for a public farewell reception that would love to see some of you in attendance at in September, details coming. 79 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:36,700 on October 1st, David's replacement Geraldine Gardner will start and she's going to make the rounds 80 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:44,940 including to Prairie Village to say hi and introduce herself. I also since we last met with 81 00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:51,600 Mission Hills Mayor Weed as we've done regularly since he was elected as I did with the previous 82 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:57,920 mayor as well to discuss areas of cooperation. It's a great partnership we have with Mission Hills 83 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,660 and Prairie Village, and I'm happy to report that under Mayor Weeds leadership, that is continuing. 84 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,380 I also had a chance to meet with Chief Chick of the Fire District number two and 85 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:19,460 several of his board members, as well as county commissioners to discuss their budget process. 86 00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:24,380 He's going to be here in person soon. I don't know if we have that scheduled yet or not, 87 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:28,380 West to talk about that budget, but come in soon. 88 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:36,380 We had a great, it was very hot, but a Corinth kickoff at the Corinth shops for the KU football 89 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:41,760 season, that rock chalk events, always a crowd favorite every year last weekend. 90 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:48,280 Some things coming up, Captain Porter is going to give us the details, love to see you at 91 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,100 the National Police Night Out coming up this Thursday evening in the 92 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:58,540 Prairie Village shops in front of the tavern there for all ages but especially for the kids, 93 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:04,960 that's always a thrill. I'd love to see you there. The Northeast Johnson County Mayors lunch, 94 00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:10,880 I'll be attending Friday, the Shawnee Mission School District annual lunch kickoff with the 95 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:18,540 the Northeast Johnson County Chamber Council, that's August 25th at the Shawnee Mission 96 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:26,260 School District Administration, B-strow to have that date right west, 25th. I don't have 97 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:34,340 that date right. It is the 25th, yep. So a great chance to hear about what's coming up for 98 00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:36,400 Shawnee Mission School District. Love to see you there. 99 00:47:38,740 --> 00:47:41,140 Golf, T.R.K., opening in the 100 00:47:41,140 --> 00:47:46,200 Peruvialage Shops September 11th. That will be one of those shops right next to Big 101 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:51,520 Grove as we continue to fill those in over the year. That should be an exciting opening. 102 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,220 And then we'll have a council meeting before then, but I want to continue to ask people 103 00:47:57,220 --> 00:48:04,320 to put on their calendars. This tremendous jazz fest lineup we have. We're looking forward to 104 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,760 that September 12th. A couple of new things. Well, one new thing this year is we're partnering 105 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,800 with the Jazz Museum at 18th and Vine. They're going to be there thanks to our diversity committee 106 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:24,480 to do some cultural component to that. And we're also going to have a Prairie Village Foundation booth 107 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:32,280 there at the Jazz Fest. I love to see you there. And then finally, Council, I want to point 108 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,520 out to you and the public that we have one of those coveted three-week breaks coming 109 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,600 up. And this is a bonus because it's three weeks and one day. We don't see those very often. 110 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,240 Our next meeting will be Tuesday, September 8, because the Monday is Labor Day, okay? 111 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:50,120 Okay, so we'll see you then. 112 00:48:50,340 --> 00:48:50,840 Thanks. 113 00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:52,160 Staff reports, West. 114 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,340 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 115 00:48:56,860 --> 00:48:58,680 We'll start with Cindy. 116 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,320 You know, start us off. 117 00:49:00,820 --> 00:49:02,300 And then I know Chief and Keith 118 00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:04,180 both have a couple items for you. 119 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:04,500 So. 120 00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:10,380 Good evening, Mayor, City Council. 121 00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:13,820 Cindy Volonte, I'm the Human Resource Manager here 122 00:49:13,820 --> 00:49:15,540 for the City of Prairie Village. 123 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:20,560 And wanted to give you an update of our upcoming RFP 124 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,480 for the compensation and benefit study. 125 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,060 A little bit of a background. 126 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:37,120 We did have a 2017 study that the city council at that time did direct staff to complete 127 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:44,280 a compensation and benefit study for every five years to ensure that the city continues 128 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,380 to offer competitive wages and benefits for the city employees. 129 00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:56,260 and market studies have been performed in 2017 and then in 2022. 130 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:05,940 So recently during the 2027 budget the council did approve within that budget a 131 00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:10,060 consultant fee for a salary survey of $30,000. 132 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,880 And we are anticipating this study to be completed in the spring of 2027. 133 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,680 and then that will be used to prepare the 2028 budget. 134 00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,960 So some key dates of our process that will be upcoming. 135 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:40,000 We will issue the RFP out for BIDs next Monday, I believe the 24th is next Monday already. 136 00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:48,640 Then we will prepare for recommendations of a consultant with a proposed agreement on 137 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:58,720 of November 16th of 2026. As we go through, we will present preliminary findings to the 138 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:07,940 Finance Committee and Jason for the 2028 budget that will be in March of 27. And then in April 139 00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:17,080 of 2027, that is when we will finalize the or start preparing, I should say, the 2028 budget 140 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:27,760 with those proposed salary adjustments, then that moves us to May of 2027, where we will do 141 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:34,580 a presentation of the consultant that has performed our study, and that will come before the 142 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:43,120 City Council. So as you can see, we're talking a long process, but then implementation will begin 143 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,240 in with our first payroll of the 2028, 144 00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:49,960 but the salary adjustments. 145 00:51:51,620 --> 00:51:53,260 So that's it, and in that shell, 146 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:57,640 if you have any questions, be free to answer this for you. 147 00:51:58,700 --> 00:51:59,140 That's it. 148 00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:02,600 I just have a quick question, and I'll probably see it in the RFP, 149 00:52:02,660 --> 00:52:04,080 but I'm assuming when you say salary, 150 00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,500 this is a comp and benefits, 151 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:07,480 but it'll also look at the whole benefit package. 152 00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:10,820 We are going to review the full benefit package 153 00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:12,400 that's what we did in 2022. 154 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,820 Okay, that's coming. 155 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,820 No action needed at this time, just an FYI. 156 00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:22,100 Yeah. Thanks, Cindy. 157 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:22,660 Thank you. 158 00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:30,310 Chief, you're going to go first. Thank you. 159 00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:33,550 There we go. 160 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:36,330 Yeah, just briefly wanted to mention a couple of opportunities 161 00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:39,830 for the community to connect with our staff coming up. 162 00:52:40,550 --> 00:52:44,170 Mayor mentioned this Thursday evening, the 20th, 163 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:46,430 at the shops at Prairie Village, 164 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:48,650 we'll be doing our national night out event 165 00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:53,830 from six o'clock to eight o'clock PM. This year we're actually going to be just north of 166 00:52:53,830 --> 00:53:00,930 the Clementine's Einstein Village Flower shop area in the parking lot. We have vehicles and 167 00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:05,770 other equipment set up for display and other activities. We'll be running a grill with some burgers 168 00:53:05,770 --> 00:53:12,750 and hot dogs, so please come out and enjoy some time getting to know our staff at that event. 169 00:53:12,750 --> 00:53:18,150 And then just wanted to do another plug for our upcoming fall citizens academy. 170 00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:23,310 That will be starting up on Wednesday September 2nd. 171 00:53:24,030 --> 00:53:30,470 It will run for 10 straight weeks on the Wednesday evening from 6.30 to 9 o'clock PM. 172 00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:35,470 Think November 4th would end up being the last class. 173 00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:40,950 This is a great opportunity for people to learn the kind of more nuts and bolts of what we 174 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:44,750 be on a day-to-day basis and everything that we do in service to the community. 175 00:53:45,050 --> 00:53:48,310 So, great opportunity to meet our staff through that program as well. 176 00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:55,170 Always a lot of fun for us as we get to do those classes and connect with the people that 177 00:53:55,170 --> 00:53:55,910 attend that as well. 178 00:53:56,230 --> 00:54:02,010 So, looking for applicants for that class this year, you can do so from the city's website 179 00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:08,510 and then any other questions that you may have, Sergeant Travis Gray is the person responsible 180 00:54:08,510 --> 00:54:13,410 for that program at this time and please feel free to call or email him if interested. 181 00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:15,270 So that's all I have. 182 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:18,680 Thanks. 183 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,480 I think Wes gave you a promotion, Mike. 184 00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:22,480 What did I say? 185 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:23,680 I didn't say chief today. 186 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,000 Sorry. 187 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,020 It's what I saw. 188 00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:26,560 Are you? 189 00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:27,760 Gosh, you got me, Mayor. 190 00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:35,270 Any other staff reports, Wes? 191 00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:36,510 Oh, Keith, go ahead. 192 00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:40,330 Just a real quick update on the municipal complex project. 193 00:54:41,130 --> 00:54:44,950 The NPR wing over here is things are going well with it. 194 00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:48,270 but we're looking at probably mid-October completion for that. 195 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:55,330 The main level is a reminder is going to be a new property room and then the animal 196 00:54:55,330 --> 00:54:58,090 control and traffic offices will be moved into that space. 197 00:54:58,470 --> 00:55:02,470 The basement will be of the new fitness facility will be down there. 198 00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:10,010 One of the next things they're going to start, it's looking like there's smaller renovations 199 00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:12,890 done to the dispatch area that we're looking to start in September. 200 00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:19,010 It's a shorter term amount of work, but they're going to start that in the first part 201 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:19,590 of September. 202 00:55:20,310 --> 00:55:23,870 But once everybody gets moved into the NPR wing over here, that's from the basement 203 00:55:23,870 --> 00:55:26,310 renovations and the police department will start. 204 00:55:27,290 --> 00:55:31,330 So that's an update on what's going on over here, the new city hall building itself. 205 00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:36,410 All the subgrade is in and complete, and we're starting footings and foundations now, and 206 00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:37,130 that's all going well. 207 00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:39,690 There aren't really any surprises in that whole process. 208 00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:45,790 There was a minor asbestos surprises that we had with the floor and the church removed 209 00:55:45,790 --> 00:55:49,410 building, but as far as building it we haven't had any real surprises, so that's good. 210 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:57,490 So probably late October or in December you'll start seeing steel start going up, so the 211 00:55:57,490 --> 00:56:00,590 building will be coming out of the ground and going vertical and then it gets a little 212 00:56:00,590 --> 00:56:02,370 more exciting when you start seeing things happen. 213 00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:09,170 The parking lot and asphalt work is also doing drainage work now, anticipation of having 214 00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:13,710 the base level of asphalt in the middle of October, late October as well. So a lot of 215 00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:18,390 things are going to start changing and looking a lot differently here soon. So, so far things 216 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:23,570 gone. I would say very, very well reasonable things to expect in construction that we're managing 217 00:56:23,570 --> 00:56:25,110 and working through, but all good. 218 00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:31,630 That's great. Exciting progress. Progress to hear about, Keith. 219 00:56:31,770 --> 00:56:36,930 Thank you, Betsy. Yeah, I took a quick question on timing. I know you and I exchange and we have some 220 00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:43,010 resident interest in the contract requirements in terms of the handling of the demolition material 221 00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:49,590 and the requirements that that be recycled and properly disposed of. When do we get that 222 00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:53,630 kind of report back from the contractor? Is that at the end of the project or at the end of 223 00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:59,490 demolition? I don't know the exact timing of it. They probably already are developing that or have 224 00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:03,770 all of that. I know that it was going to be much higher than what our once they started that process 225 00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:07,670 us it ended up being a lot higher than say the 50% that was required by the platinum. 226 00:57:08,410 --> 00:57:12,950 But there'll be a number that I can, I don't know the exact timing, but I will, I'll have 227 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:13,970 a bit of life here I will soon. 228 00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:17,830 Yeah, I would appreciate a report out, and I'm sure the Environmental Committee will as well. 229 00:57:17,890 --> 00:57:20,190 I know some residents were interested in ensuring that. 230 00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:21,050 I'll check on timing. 231 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:21,770 Yeah, that's awesome. 232 00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:22,330 Thanks. 233 00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:24,740 Terry? 234 00:57:26,730 --> 00:57:27,090 Yes. 235 00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:27,810 Yeah. 236 00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:28,650 Please. 237 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:31,600 Yeah. 238 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,040 Good point. 239 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,840 Anything else for Keith on the City Hall Municipal Center project? 240 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,840 questions, comments, keep up the great work, Keith. 241 00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:40,340 Thanks, Terry. 242 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,600 Thank you, Mayor. 243 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:45,680 I actually want to give a testimonial and say Captain Porter. 244 00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:49,180 It was a fantastic event when we did the Citizens Academy. 245 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,080 And I think it's sort of neat that right now sitting 246 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,640 in this room are three people that were in the class with me. 247 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,600 Leon was in that class, Cindy was in that class. 248 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,100 So three other 12 people are sitting in the room tonight 249 00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:01,680 with us. 250 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,800 And I know that the other people have stayed active in politics and I can't say anything 251 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,420 more than if you are sitting home on many Monday nights watching the city council meeting, 252 00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:14,960 you will greatly enjoy this process. 253 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,740 It doesn't take a lot of time. 254 00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:19,220 It's a short 12 weeks and you will learn a lot. 255 00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:20,740 So it's not full. 256 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,720 Should be full. 257 00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:25,620 If you're sitting home watching this, go ahead and check in tomorrow and sign up if you have 258 00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:25,840 time. 259 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:26,460 Thank you. 260 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:39,520 I second that. It was a great program. It made me and I think all of you who went through it, better governing body, better citizens. And it was, it was fun too. I mean, it was just really interesting and fun. 261 00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:46,060 Check it out if you have any interest at all. Thanks, Cherry. It's free and there are good snacks. 262 00:58:47,180 --> 00:58:55,840 two bonuses, right? Also, Council, Tim is going to arrange a time that if you like to 263 00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:01,900 tour the construction area that's underway, we're probably getting close to that. Probably 264 00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:06,980 one of our off-mundays to do it. The entire you were at the meeting probably 265 00:59:06,980 --> 00:59:13,080 bitten be good for taking a tour, but we're proud of what we're seeing and we'd like for 266 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:18,600 you have a chance to look at it behind the scenes and preparation for it being done to 267 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:24,960 see what everything is undertaken on a daily basis. So, look for that in the near future. 268 00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:31,030 Then that's all I have from staff unless anybody has any questions. 269 00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:36,770 Comments? Council? No. Okay. Move right along then. 270 00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:43,510 Thanks, Wes. We don't have any old business or new business on the main council agenda. 271 00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:48,770 And so with a motion, we can move right to CCOW from Nathan, second by Piler. 272 00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:52,150 All in favor, please say aye, raise your hand, any opposed? 273 00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:53,030 Please say nay. 274 00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:53,990 President Robinson. 275 00:59:54,730 --> 00:59:54,850 All right. 276 00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:55,370 Thank you, Mayor. 277 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:55,990 Thank you, Council. 278 00:59:56,810 --> 00:59:59,970 Just one item on our agenda tonight, and that is with... 279 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,500 Johnson County wastewater in regard to their pump station adjacent to Porter Park. I see some wastewater 280 01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:10,760 folks isn't precaric in her team here and Keith will be the item. Thank you, Keith. Yeah, just 281 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,540 real quick. Johnson County wastewater is here to talk about some improvements that they're going 282 01:00:14,540 --> 01:00:19,380 to be making in Prairie Village and in their system in the northeast part of Johnson County. We've 283 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:23,220 been having conversations with them about some of the things they're going to be needing to do 284 01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:44,860 for several years now and some of the potential impacts to specifically Porter Park is what there's going to be some modifications to that facility there now that they're going to have to rebuild so they're here tonight to kind of talk about globally what all they're facing and what they have to do in the area and also a little specifically about what we're doing at Porter Park what some of the needs are going to be there with easements and such. 285 01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:52,820 This is just a discussion tonight and it is the topic to everybody or we're thinking the September 21st meeting probably bring back the item with 286 01:00:52,820 --> 01:01:01,020 some easements and stuff attached to it that they would need to continue kind of developing their project. So with that, I'll turn it over to Patrick Dennings. 287 01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:10,370 Thank you, Keith. 288 01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:17,670 Mayor and City Council, I appreciate your time this evening. My name is Patrick Denning. I'm the Assistant Chief Engineer for Johnson County Voicewater. 289 01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:26,610 with me tonight is Susan Picarek, our general manager as well as Alex Lewinsky, the Managing Engineer for Treatment and Pumping for John's County Wastewater. 290 01:01:27,070 --> 01:01:36,910 I'm here tonight to talk about Wastewater Infrastructure Improvement Project at our Brush Creek pump station, which is at 74th and Roe at the very southern end of Porter Park. 291 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:45,020 Just a quick background on who we are, John's County Wastewater is a department of Johnson County Government. 292 01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:50,600 We provide wastewater service to 16 municipalities in the area, including Prairie Village, 293 01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:53,660 all the ones that are great out in that map. 294 01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:01,880 The area in question this evening is part of the sewer system that includes the Prairie Village area 295 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:08,600 that ultimately ends up at our Nelson Wastewater Treatment Facility, which is up in Mission right at the Johnson County Wine Dot County Line on NALL. 296 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:16,200 It's depicted as the water drop in the upper right corner of the figure, which is right under my head in the screen. 297 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:32,120 Just can't waste water and the Kansas Department of Health and Environment have agreed to a consent order to improve water quality or treatment facilities and also handle our wet weather flows differently. 298 01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:42,140 To achieve this, JCW has presented to KDHE a 25 year integrated plan, which is like a long CIP or schedule of projects, 299 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,860 which will help us achieve the goals of this consent order over time. 300 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,400 This project is a key part of that plan, and I'll explain that a little bit more on the next slide. 301 01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:56,580 All right, so here's a little wastewater engineering. 302 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,220 More than you wanted to know, probably, but here we go. 303 01:02:59,660 --> 01:03:03,220 Currently, the Brush Creek pump station, which is shown in the upper right, that's off. 304 01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:08,820 That's the one we're talking about tonight, conveys up to five and a half million gallons per day. 305 01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:15,100 Okay, gravity sewers, which flow towards brush creek, the large ones of which are shown 306 01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:21,980 in green, are intercepted by the pump station, and flow is conveyed north, up, row, or the 307 01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:27,140 Nelson Waysfar treatment facility, through a pressure pipe, which is shown by that dark 308 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,720 black line there, that dashed line that runs up row. 309 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:38,800 When it rains, defects in the JCW sewer system, but also private sewer laterals from all 310 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:45,040 homes, leak water into the system. Brush Creek works with another facility, located at 311 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,120 75th and Noll in Overland Park, which is shown on the left. It kind of looks like a house. You've 312 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:54,580 driven by it. It may not realize it's a pump station. And when the capacity of Brush Creek is 313 01:03:54,580 --> 01:04:00,880 reached, this sister facility activates. It pumps flow into an adjacent below ground holding tank. 314 01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:08,280 It's a nice yard next to it. That's the below ground holding tank. It also has the ability to settle 315 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,060 solids, chlorinate water, de-chlorinate the water, and discharge the treated flow to brush 316 01:04:13,060 --> 01:04:18,520 creek. While studies have shown that this effluent that we discharge is as good or better 317 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:23,420 than the water quality in brush creek during storm events, the U.S. EPA wants us to eliminate 318 01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:29,280 these wet weather discharges over time. We are currently upgrading the Nelson wastewater 319 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:35,120 treatment facility to accept future increased wet weather flows. The next step in this wet 320 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,860 weather plan is to improve our pumping stations to be able to convey that additional wet weather flow 321 01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:42,240 to the treatment facility. 322 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,880 So since we cannot discharge the treated flow at 75th and all in the 323 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:55,960 future, our two options are to convey all of that flow to the treatment plant as it arrives. So in 324 01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:04,040 real time, or store it and pump it back to the treatment plant at a reduced rate once the pump state 325 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:09,520 We worked with HDR engineering to model the system and used optimization modeling to 326 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,860 understand what the most cost-effective solution was to achieving this. 327 01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:20,040 Optimization modeling runs thousands of scenarios and tries to optimize the best set of solutions 328 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,920 presented to the model, so it's like a little bit of a precursor to like an AI type thing 329 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,440 trying to figure out what the most cost-effective solution part rate pairs would be. 330 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:34,420 The model determined that the most cost-effective solution was to construct a storage tank at 331 01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:39,520 Porter Park and send flow to our Nelson wastewater treatment facility at a reduced rate 332 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,820 once the storm passed, so that's depicted in like that red triangle would be like a four 333 01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:47,460 and a half million gallon storage facility. 334 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,960 However, this would cause significant impact to the park and the adjacent residents, and in 335 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,860 consultation with Prairie Village staff and our own analysis. 336 01:05:57,340 --> 01:06:01,600 We have instead decided to upgrade the pump station to convey all the flows to the Nelson 337 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,880 wastewater treatment facility. 338 01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:06,340 So we don't want to pursue the storage tank. 339 01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:12,340 We're going to need to rather upgrade the pump station at the site to a larger pump station 340 01:06:12,340 --> 01:06:14,720 to build and convey that flow in real time. 341 01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:20,930 It's just a real quick map of the facility. 342 01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:26,710 The area in blue is the existing site that's owned by the county, obviously to the north 343 01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:28,150 that's the Porter Park. 344 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:37,320 So the existing pump station was constructed in the 1950s to serve the 345 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,220 area. So when that area started to develop needed sewer services, pump station was constructed. 346 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,620 The infrastructure in the pump station is at the end of its useful life. To get up to modern 347 01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:53,440 codes, a new pump station structure is needed. We can't rehab what's there and meet modern codes. 348 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:59,580 And then we would also construct a new facility at this time with the increased at least 349 01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:03,000 structure to support future wet weather flows in the future. 350 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,880 So the drivers for this project in summary are, we have aging assets that need to be replaced. 351 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,320 This equipment runs 24.7, 365, and it's at the end of its useful life. 352 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,420 So we need to do something. 353 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,720 We can't rehab the existing station due to modern codes and having electrical and wastewater 354 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,980 water things in the same areas, it's not okay anymore, like it was in the 50s. 355 01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:29,220 And we know that there's wet weather component is coming as well, and so if we're going to 356 01:07:29,220 --> 01:07:33,340 build a new pump station, we should plan for the future and do it one time. 357 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:42,520 We plan on starting the design for this new facility in 2027, and construction will begin 358 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,980 likely in 2028 and into 2029. 359 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,860 In the future, 15 years from now, and once we are ready to bring wet weather flow to the 360 01:07:50,860 --> 01:07:55,940 and facility will install the equipment in the pump station and will also need to do piping 361 01:07:55,940 --> 01:08:00,940 improvements around the pump station and up row to the treatment facility to get the water 362 01:08:00,940 --> 01:08:06,600 to the facility and then up to the treatment facility. Those improvements are like I mentioned 363 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,980 about 15 years in the future. That will be a large project and will need to be coordinated 364 01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:14,020 with all the impacted cities. 365 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,660 So we have moved this pump station as close as we can to the existing 366 01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:27,260 facility, so as far south as we can, and we stretched it out to try to take as much 367 01:08:27,260 --> 01:08:33,540 advantage of the small site that we have to the best that we can. This is just a preliminary 368 01:08:33,540 --> 01:08:37,740 floor plan, but it gives an idea of the size and kind of what we're looking at. 369 01:08:39,420 --> 01:08:43,960 The old facility will need to operate for the duration of the construction project into the new 370 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,080 pump station can take over, and at that time we would then demolish the old facility. 371 01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:52,220 The city also uses the site to access brush creek for maintenance. 372 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,780 We'll be establishing a new way for the city to get access to the creek through the site. 373 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:06,040 So I want to talk a little bit about what our easement and property request is for the city. 374 01:09:06,940 --> 01:09:11,020 So because the pump station is in a new location, like Keith mentioned, 375 01:09:11,180 --> 01:09:15,560 we'll be bringing agreement before you likely in September for your consideration on land acquisition. 376 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,760 position, easements, and some other logistical items between Prairie Village and JCW, mostly 377 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,120 permitting and things how that process would go between the two governmental entities. 378 01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:30,120 Just walking through this, the yellow that you see is existing sewer easements. 379 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,700 That's sewer we already had that was put in in the 50s. 380 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,480 The light blue is the acquisition of five feet of property north of the site. 381 01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:43,400 The idea here is that the building straddles that property line right now, and the idea would 382 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,980 be that then the building would all be on county property as opposed to having a building 383 01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:50,380 that straddles different properties. 384 01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:56,620 A 20-foot permanent easement will be requested to the north of that so that the sanitary 385 01:09:56,620 --> 01:10:01,360 sewer lines can be routed in and out of the pump station and then we show a 10-foot permanent 386 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,980 easement being requested on the side of the creek so that building occurrences will all be 387 01:10:06,980 --> 01:10:10,600 within that easement, mostly fencing and things like that. 388 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:21,610 The permanent easement will be restored following construction and will work with the city as there may be some trail modifications needed right along that that southern end of Porter Park. 389 01:10:22,190 --> 01:10:26,070 The city will be running a permanent access easement through the site. We haven't shown that yet. 390 01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:34,290 A little bit of it depends on how the design unfolds on the best way for the city to access that to get access into the creek. 391 01:10:36,370 --> 01:10:41,610 And because the site is so small, we'll have the new facility, we'll have the existing facility running. 392 01:10:42,370 --> 01:10:50,330 It will be very difficult to construct this without some temporary location to store materials equipment and give the contractor some room to work. 393 01:10:50,870 --> 01:11:01,130 We are requesting the use of the ball field on the south end of Porter Park for the construction period, which again is likely 28 and 2029 potentially restoration in 2030. 394 01:11:01,130 --> 01:11:09,370 We'll see exactly how that schedule unfolds, but we would then restore the ball field after the construction period. 395 01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:16,390 So those are the easement asks to construct this facility. 396 01:11:18,860 --> 01:11:28,040 So the next action is to come before you again and for you to consider the property acquisition and easement agreement. 397 01:11:29,780 --> 01:11:36,160 Once we have the property acquisitions, easements figured out, we can procure our design builder team. 398 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:41,320 We're going to do this project as a design builder, our intent is to do that. 399 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,740 To try to minimize the time we're on site, minimize the impacts to their surrounding area. 400 01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:52,140 And then we'll continue to coordinate with the city on the park, the access, easement, and others. 401 01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:58,460 There's also have a big public outreach component here, because this is directly adjacent to a lot of residents. 402 01:11:59,020 --> 01:12:05,280 So we'll need to get ahead, we'll need to message this, why are we doing this project, what people can expect, etc. 403 01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:11,460 We've done a lot of these before, we'll put up a website so people know how to get in contact with us. 404 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,440 And we've done projects like this, pumping stations and residential areas and things. 405 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,620 And we've learned some things about how to message things to the public and 406 01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:24,620 make sure that their feelings are heard and we understand where they're coming from as well. 407 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,800 So, that's a real high-level overview of what we've got coming there. 408 01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:33,880 Is there any questions that I can answer for you for this time? 409 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:34,660 Thank you, Patrick. 410 01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:35,720 Appreciate the presentation. 411 01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,840 Keith, is there anything you want to add before we open it up for comments? 412 01:12:39,060 --> 01:12:39,180 Okay. 413 01:12:39,540 --> 01:12:39,740 Inga. 414 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,460 Yeah, so I live right across the street from this on Tomahawk Road. 415 01:12:44,940 --> 01:12:49,720 I mean, over the years since my family's on this home, every four or five years, 416 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,980 we have a major sewage backup in our basement and I just want to make sure as things are moving 417 01:12:54,980 --> 01:12:59,360 along that there's studies done on the homes that on that side of the street that this is not 418 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,620 going to impact that any further. Correct, yes. So part of our integrated plan and why we're not 419 01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:10,380 like doing all of this at once is we're trying to get that water that's getting into the system during 420 01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:14,920 storm events we're trying to reduce that. So we have several programs that we're working on to 421 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,700 reduce that. Once we've had a chance to get through all that and then we can really size the 422 01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:25,700 facilities for wet weather flows but yeah we're not we're not going to impact in a negative fashion 423 01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:31,100 current sewer service. The sewers are very shallow in that area 424 01:13:32,180 --> 01:13:36,660 and and it was the whole system was made to operate with this wet weather facility so 425 01:13:36,660 --> 01:13:40,200 being able to take it out of services is a long-term project. 426 01:13:40,660 --> 01:13:44,920 Okay and then the building itself is not going to wind up getting demolished and replaced. 427 01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:49,180 All right so I just have a little bit of resident feedback. They like the style of the building 428 01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:56,460 and the mid-century modern look, so as the design moves forward maybe a little homage to that moving forward on the new design? 429 01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:04,640 Yes, I think that's the kind of thing that we're looking for matching the other park architecture and things like that to try to make it blend in the community. 430 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,180 Okay, thank you. 431 01:14:07,180 --> 01:14:07,420 Andy? 432 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:08,620 Yes. 433 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,080 Thank you. 434 01:14:09,940 --> 01:14:14,140 74th Street crosses the creek, just a little ways down to the north. 435 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:19,520 To what extent does this affect the flow of water, or the increased frequency of having 436 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,520 to close the street, things like that down there, if at all? 437 01:14:25,390 --> 01:14:32,470 As far as closing, because of the creek coming up, I do not think that would be stormwater. 438 01:14:32,930 --> 01:14:33,070 Yes. 439 01:14:33,190 --> 01:14:37,550 Brush Creek would just be the stormwater that is flowing from Overland Park through Prairie 440 01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:41,910 knowledge and that low water crossing is just pure rain water when it's when it's flowing 441 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:46,850 not not sanitary. I didn't affect that at all. And nothing during the construction either 442 01:14:46,850 --> 01:14:51,810 in terms of how it's all going to go. We would stay out of the floodway at all. Yeah, 443 01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:59,550 we can't be in the floodway. A couple of questions from me. I think I heard you say you're looking at the 444 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,820 The southern ball field being occupied for two years, is that what you said? So we don't have the design builder on board yet. So I don't know their exact schedule, you know, I think 2029 is pretty certain that we'll be in construction. We probably start sometime in 2028. I think we could work with the city on when that is and when that easement would begin potentially after the uses in 2028. And then, you know, in 2030, we've got to restore it. We're not going to be able to get grass and stuff to grow in the winter. 445 01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:33,880 obviously. So there's going to be some spring, but we're going to have to restore the wall field. 446 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:41,560 Missing in this is any sort of discussion around renumeration for the city. So I don't know, 447 01:15:41,820 --> 01:15:45,980 is that something you bring at the next meeting, or is that part of this conversation, or how do you 448 01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:51,180 how do you want to talk about that part of all of this? 449 01:15:51,820 --> 01:15:55,860 Yeah, we've been discussing that with city staff, and we can work that out at that level, 450 01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:57,920 or we can discuss it here if you'd like. 451 01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:59,480 That's it. 452 01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:04,220 I had sort of just some similar questions. 453 01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:10,940 Is there any way to consider not having such an expansive? 454 01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:12,520 I mean, the loss of the ball diamond, 455 01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:15,740 that's a pretty significant area. 456 01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:17,740 And I think it's pretty heavily used. 457 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,660 Is that the only option from construction? 458 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,100 Is there a way to pull it back? 459 01:16:23,420 --> 01:16:26,100 And then my other question in conjunction with that is, 460 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:31,400 I don't know if there's any loss of trees or anything that is in that area. 461 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,820 And I think I'm not close to that area, but I think there's a shelter house nearby, too. 462 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,920 So what are their impacts? 463 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,560 I believe the shelter house is like, oh, I keep far enough away. 464 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,180 The shelter house, I believe, is north of the ball field. 465 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,300 There are some trees along that southern end. 466 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,900 There's five trees kind of in that permanent easement. 467 01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:01,420 and a few of them probably won't survive 468 01:17:01,420 --> 01:17:04,280 because a pump station is a very deep structure. 469 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,760 We've got to go 20 plus deep in the ground. 470 01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:09,520 So there are some trees along that southern end 471 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,400 that would not survive and would have to be replaced. 472 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,900 Okay, so that would be part of the restoration plan 473 01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:16,280 is replaning trees. 474 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,940 And then to Inga's point, I do think some residents 475 01:17:19,940 --> 01:17:23,000 have some nostalgia about that current pump station. 476 01:17:23,420 --> 01:17:25,520 Is there any way to repurpose that 477 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,140 not as an open shelter, or is it just pass it's? 478 01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:31,940 I think it's a pass that's useful life. 479 01:17:32,140 --> 01:17:34,800 There's, it's a wastewater pump station inside. 480 01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:35,960 It looks nice outside. 481 01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:36,940 Yeah, yeah. 482 01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:39,520 And then, and then I was glad to hear you say 483 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,860 that you do neighborhood outreach. 484 01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:43,000 Well, you do that soon enough so that they, 485 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,360 especially the abutting neighbors, 486 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:49,140 will have some input on what the design looks like. 487 01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:54,600 Yeah, well, we'll engage them in the design phase, 488 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,220 for sure I think it always works better when you give them something to see though and then they can 489 01:17:59,740 --> 01:18:04,280 say if they like it or not or what things they're looking for so that's what we've done in the past. 490 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:10,960 Well I would just strongly and I don't know if everybody else agrees but if there's any way to reduce or 491 01:18:12,260 --> 01:18:18,020 reconfigure the need by the construction contractor that's a big ask for a couple years I think to be 492 01:18:18,020 --> 01:18:19,740 without that ballpark. 493 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:26,980 One of the things on that, as we've talked about this in the past, once you start, we want 494 01:18:26,980 --> 01:18:31,340 to stay to the east of that, because of the trees are there, and you start getting into 495 01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:33,120 where you're taking up a good part of the outfield. 496 01:18:33,740 --> 01:18:37,840 I think our thoughts where we might as well discover, take the whole ballfield, and then 497 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:43,580 we end up kind of having a, you know, I won't say an improved ballfield, but maybe an improved 498 01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:46,440 ballfield when we're done when it's being used for that. 499 01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:52,880 So it's almost going to be rendered, you know, yeah, not usable whether that boundary is pulled down or not. 500 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,180 So it's been some of our thoughts on it. 501 01:18:57,140 --> 01:18:58,380 All right, West want to jump into. 502 01:18:58,860 --> 01:19:04,020 Yeah, one of the things is this conversation has been going on for probably two or three years. 503 01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:11,400 Johnson County wastewater has been trying to find compromises to staff telling them no. 504 01:19:12,440 --> 01:19:17,300 They were looking at a very large underground 505 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,640 I don't, how many gallons was it you remember off top of your head? 506 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,360 It was about 4.5 million gallons. 507 01:19:24,460 --> 01:19:30,600 4.5 million gallons of sanitary water, so we said no. 508 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,040 We didn't think we needed to bring that to council to us. 509 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:35,000 That was a no-brainer. 510 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:45,620 But they are certainly in a predicament with getting those lines enlarged and taking it to. 511 01:19:45,620 --> 01:19:53,260 is at the Nelson Center up north Rowland Park area. And so they are in quite a pickle here. 512 01:19:54,260 --> 01:20:00,480 And while I'm not crazy about this, they really don't have a choice. And I think it's going to be 513 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:09,140 very, very beneficial to our residents due to that improvement and the narrow easement that's being 514 01:20:09,140 --> 01:20:17,860 asked for. We as staff we're going to recommend that this just be given to the county because 515 01:20:17,860 --> 01:20:24,680 of the benefits to us. And we think that ball field can be approved. Sorry, Cole, it may 516 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:33,040 not be turf, but as as previously requested. So there's going to be some benefit to our 517 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:39,120 citizens. We looked at this about trying to get around some of that staging. I know that 518 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:47,100 they will work with us, but I think the county is here tonight with hat in hand because 519 01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:53,280 of those limitations and they have certainly listened to us and they gave the large 520 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:59,140 tank of valiant try and they had to make the ask and we said no. 521 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:06,220 So some of this is a byproduct of us saying no and that pump station need to be replaced 522 01:21:06,220 --> 01:21:06,680 anyway. 523 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:25,260 Okay, so there is some background, it's gone back two or three years prior to some of you being elected and what we felt was the most minimal impact to our residents, especially those living close and overall improvements to the flow. 524 01:21:27,250 --> 01:21:30,690 Thank you for putting my request for turf fields into the public domain. 525 01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:39,070 I did ask if we could, I did make that request public works and they ran me through the numbers 526 01:21:39,070 --> 01:21:42,210 and we're like, and also they didn't want to do it. 527 01:21:42,370 --> 01:21:42,530 Terry. 528 01:21:43,730 --> 01:21:44,290 Thank you. 529 01:21:44,590 --> 01:21:45,530 Thanks for the presentation. 530 01:21:46,210 --> 01:21:50,530 And I'm going to have, I've got two things to sort of, I think, clarify to be honest with you. 531 01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:56,650 And Keith, this might be for you, on that, on that last rendition, it almost looks larger 532 01:21:56,650 --> 01:21:58,490 than I think it does on Google Maps. 533 01:21:59,350 --> 01:22:01,530 and it might just be the way I'm looking at it. 534 01:22:01,610 --> 01:22:04,490 But is the intention to stay inside the sidewalks 535 01:22:05,070 --> 01:22:09,270 that sort of about the field if I'm looking at Google Maps? 536 01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:13,950 I believe that's what's shown on the drawing. 537 01:22:14,290 --> 01:22:15,870 Yeah, that's why it's kind of got the curves. 538 01:22:16,290 --> 01:22:18,790 And that's just kind of what it doesn't have to be exactly 539 01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:22,990 that shape that was just where we would get rid of that whole area 540 01:22:22,990 --> 01:22:26,070 would be reestablished at one time when we got done with the project. 541 01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:27,710 So it would all be consistently done the same. 542 01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:34,610 Yeah, I'm just pointing out that if you look at on Google Maps, it almost looks like pretty natural break points 543 01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:39,650 that sort of work for everybody, even though it is a long period of time, I agree with that, but it is what it is. 544 01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:45,690 And then I did not understand Cole's comment about being paid for some way. 545 01:22:46,190 --> 01:22:51,950 You're comment about that's part of the discussion. Did you say that's not part of the discussion that we're giving it to him? 546 01:22:51,950 --> 01:23:03,950 I mean, I'm just, I mean, I think that's what we've kind of been thinking on this due to the narrow the narrow width and the added benefit to our community. 547 01:23:06,670 --> 01:23:07,890 Okay. Thank you. 548 01:23:08,210 --> 01:23:10,810 I'll go with Ian first just because he hasn't spoken and then Betsy. 549 01:23:11,710 --> 01:23:18,450 Just since there's going to be a five foot, there's going to be a land acquisition or a conveyance in this whole arrangement. 550 01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:23,350 So I assume that means we're going to have to make sure we're on the up and up with the sale or 551 01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:31,250 advance of parkland and do the adequate notifications accordingly so we don't end up in a situation that 552 01:23:31,250 --> 01:23:33,990 happened recently nearby. So just leave it at that. 553 01:23:37,570 --> 01:23:44,090 Well in a follow-on to Terry's, when I look at this I do see it on this side but I just want to flag now and keep on 554 01:23:44,090 --> 01:23:50,190 the radar. We do not want to, we just planted the tree in honor of Sarah Milgram and I believe it's just on the 555 01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:54,690 other side of that sidewalk so everything we need to do to protect that I think will be important. 556 01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:01,980 Any other comments? And I will just very gently push back on the 557 01:24:03,460 --> 01:24:07,880 modifying the ball field. I'm not aware of any real inadequacies with the baseball field so it 558 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,700 just seems like it's going to be restored versus unless you have some sort of suggested improvements 559 01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:16,740 that are coming because of this process or just going to basically restore it. Okay, so I don't 560 01:24:17,460 --> 01:24:21,380 necessarily attribute value to that. It's just a disruption. Ron? 561 01:24:22,780 --> 01:24:31,420 On that point, the current baseball field does flood, so any improvement would be good for that. 562 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,800 Thank you, Ron. Any other comments? 563 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,320 Okay, looks like we'll leave it there. Thank you very much coming tonight. 564 01:24:39,620 --> 01:24:39,920 Thank you. 565 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,540 That's the only item we have on community of the whole, so I will accept a motion to adjourn 566 01:24:44,540 --> 01:24:50,240 back to City Council from Jim, second from Nick. All in favor adjournment, please raise your hand. 567 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,560 That carries unanimously. Mayor, it's yours. 568 01:24:53,300 --> 01:24:54,360 Thank you, President. 569 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,320 But do you have a motion for me, President Robinson? 570 01:24:58,380 --> 01:25:00,060 I do. One 571 01:25:06,140 --> 01:25:06,600 of my tabs. 572 01:25:09,380 --> 01:25:13,220 All right, Mayor, I move that the City Council recess into an executive session for a period 573 01:25:13,220 --> 01:25:15,220 of 20 minutes. 574 01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:20,760 Alex was trying to negotiate for 15, but for a period of 20 minutes on the subject of consultations 575 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,880 with the city attorney, which would be deemed privileged in the attorney-client relationship 576 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,140 that pursuant to KSA 75-4319 B2, the governing body, 577 01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:31,200 city administrator, deputy city administrator, 578 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,080 assistant city administrators, and city attorney, 579 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:34,780 will be present. 580 01:25:35,180 --> 01:25:42,220 The open meeting will resume at 744, okay, 744 PM mayor. 581 01:25:43,300 --> 01:25:44,220 Is there a second? 582 01:25:45,020 --> 01:25:48,000 Second by Nathan, any discussion council? 583 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,960 All in favor, please say aye and raise your hand. 584 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,100 Any opposed, please say nay and raise your hand. 585 01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:53,120 And we'll remain here. 586 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,720 We'd ask our residents to give us the room. 587 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,960 Thanks for being here tonight. 588 01:25:58,260 --> 01:25:59,080 Appreciate you. 589 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,540 There will be no further business after this executive session 590 01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:05,960 other than to adjourn. 591 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,600 And we will not take any binding action 592 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,280 at this executive session.