then
good evening we're going to call the me
in the order the time is 6:
PM uh next item on the agenda is the
approval of the agenda so the motion
reads that the agenda for council
meeting of October 7th 2024 be approved
as presented mve in second here
please Council mccon no I would like
something added to the agenda to our in
camera
session it's a question that I have in
regards to something we've discussed in
Council
previously and I think it would be a
clarification based on what I've
seen in tonight's agenda as to whether
it is still a matter for in camera or
not and if I ask it in general it it's a
yes or a no it's a quick thing but it
would be to everybody's fa to know
so coun McConnell do you know what
section that close section for what
matters I haven't got a clue so it might
be something that we are going to
discuss tonight in which case I
don't okay I know it's it's a it's an
unusual thing but
I would have never asked it if I hadn't
seen something in tonight's that makes
me wonder whether it's still in camera
or not we should
know okay fine you can add like
a I just I just
find meetings that it could fall so I
can get
clarification uh purchase and sale or
identifiable
individual purchase and
sale I I should mention that yeah that
helps so okay as amended then we'll um
can I have a move in second or for
Council McConnell Council Kirkby all in
favor Carri thank
you duration of Interest
tonight being none we'll move
on no presentations tonight but we do
have a delegation tonight from the
Sunday Night concert series and the St
Lawrence shakes profess Valerie
Schultz floor is
yours what do you
think I'm here representing the Sunday
Night concerts we are not asking for
money but for your help for those of you
that might have attended our concerts
you will notice that our numbers are
increasing for instance when Eddie and
the sting race performed we had over 500
people
that is encountering the people that
would KN it in and were sitting
outside the Avery flight is between 250
and
350s our big concern is if we have to go
in the arena because of rain this summer
we had to go in twice and the second
time we lost money we did not bring in
enough to pay the performer the arena is
a great venue it's only something could
be done about the acoustic with it
Su we have already had one of our
entertainers come up and say if I have
to go in the arena I am
canceling what we would like the town to
do is number one give us a portable
stage that we can put up at a moment's
notice because we usually only have a
couple of hours between the time we make
the decision and letting the town
know when we ask whoever is on duty and
ask to have the stage put up they say
they cannot do it because they need more
man pound if it is a portable stage it's
e a lot
easier however the main thing is making
the Acoustics better we have spoken to
Randy oia La who as you know played in
The Arena New Year's Eve and for the
fire
student he suggested two things that
could improve the
acoustic first sound bounces off the
glass panels either remove them there
was no hockey plan anymore in the arena
or put a curtain up also he suggested
the stage be at the North End facing
south and curtains we've been put out
between East and West I've made a
diagram which I'll show you
later next summer we have engaged
another band which is as popular as the
sing race called Ambush and if they have
to go in the arena I don't think they
will want to come back as the fact we
won't make enough money to cover their
cost nothing is cheap these
days bill and I watch the radio from the
radio from the minute we get up in the
morning and we're watching the storms go
through and believe you
me sometimes where it's really
nerve-wracking we have to let the
entertainers know or the people know
around 4:30 and we also have to let the
town know if we want to use the
arena that's the bands are not going to
risk their equipment being out in the
ring and we also have to think of the
safety of the audiences if it's a
thunderstorm last year we had two bands
it did rain in the middle but it only a
springle which was fine they continue to
play Shakespeare I know would also like
to use arena in the case of rain outs
but again it all comes down to the
acis unfortunately ingry could not be
here this evening as they are having a
very important board meeting but she
asked me to also stress to you the
importance of the Acoustics being
addressed they would like to use the
arena for their out plus their Wednesday
afternoon
lday another another CL of having them
concerts at the arena and shapes to is
that there is Apple parking we have a
lot of people with on wheelchairs
motorized wheelchairs it's easy for them
to get into the arena but it wouldn't be
easy to get anywhere
else so we would appreciate it very much
if you consider our request we want
Sunday Night concerts to continue this
has to be addressed and fixed thank you
very
much it's
very is
suggestion questions if anybody has any
questions Justin through you mayor
Shankar you say there's no charge for
the to the people attending the concert
is that correct
not it's a free
will so with donations
only the average is
$5 some people put 20 in but the average
is five some people only put two in but
we make enough to cover our costs you
make enough to cover your cost as kind
of M right now right we have to keep
going in the arena they
von't the I guess the second part of
that question for for me is when you
cancel a band do they charge you a fee
anyways we've never had to cancel touch
okay there you go that answers we have
to pay a lot of the Bands require a
deposit right and then we pay them the
balance after they finish performing yep
so if they have to go into the arena and
we've already paid them a
deposit we Lo
money counc lock
um is a church out of the question for a
rain dat
yeah does not what accommodate people
plus the sets going up I know they have
an elevator but 500 people going in
wouldn't have okay and not only that the
performance they love the Ampitheater
know they really love it down
there like wean sting R this year it was
touch and
go and Lily the sky is cleared and they
were able
to Campbell after you Shankar um Valerie
um besides Eddie and the string rays
what kind of attendance are you getting
we had 530 people oh besides them like
on a on a reg not a
regular sorry my voice um what's your
average attendance with these really
around 300 300
okay yeah the most attendance we had
this year was when we went in the arena
with Marlin forcet that was terrible and
the Acoustics were terrible yeah I'm
just trying to think if there's
another venue just for Eddie and the
Stingrays you know you're going to get
so many people and whether it's raining
or not just planet for there and there
isn't anywhere El I wish there was
yeah I'm thinking we have another Arena
but I don't know what scheduling well
but the new arena is is great but you
start putting the ice in there in August
we don't finish until the end of
August right just thinking out
loud and the other hard part is it's
it's so weather dependent right like we
could go the next three years and you
never go into the arena I know like last
year we only had to go in once
but uh you never know and the weather's
changing so well thank you for coming
and we'll uh we'll talk with staff and
see thank you very much for
listening
app don't forget
[Laughter]
next I have
your you're wel
all right moving on we've got uh minutes
of the previous council meeting so under
item 6.1 we have approval of the council
meeting uh minutes of September 16
2024 can I get a moover and secondary to
accept these
minutes by Council Burton second
by Deputy Mayor Young any discussion on
the
minutes seeing none call the question
all in
favor car thank
you um no items under Communications and
petitions or there are items there are
no
items thank you uh consent reports item
8.1 is cons reports and we have the
information package is there anything
anyone would like to see pulled
out councilor Kirkby yes through you
mayor Shankar I'd like to uh remove
municipality St Charles regulation of
the nicotine pouches PES sry all
right it's 12 number 12 oh there it
is all right anyone else
we'll take that one out um
oops so the motion reads that all items
except we just took out under the
consent report section of the agenda be
accepted as presented can I have a move
and seconder councelor Kirkby councelor
Campbell any
discussion
favor Gary thank you
um no committee reports this evening uh
mayor's comments uh busy few weeks the
last few weeks lots of lots of work
behind the scenes and um the town is
looking great lots of positive comments
from a lot of different people visitors
and family that come down to meet people
and haven't been here while they're
they're really
enjoying the looks of the town and and
lots of things going on I know we got uh
Halloween just around the corner and big
bash down at the pumpkin Inferno again
this year so lots of good things
happening Thanksgiving around the corner
hockey has started so we're in Full full
gear now but we're still cutting grass
and the leaves haven't fallen yet so we
got a bit of work ahead of us so I'm
going to go around the room and just let
people discuss any of the meetings and
committees that they went to we'll start
on this side councelor Lockett um
I I just want to Echo what You' said I
recently been visiting someone down at
the um the condos and I mentioned this
to Matthew when you look down on that
open Park area it's like a picture they
it's wellmaintained it's absolutely
beautiful it look like you're looking in
a a huge City and so they've done a
really good job everything is neat tidy
um the playground is busy um and lots of
families lots of out of town people and
so just hudos to the staff for having it
look so well thank you councelor
councelor McConnell thank you mayor
Shanker um I attended a cemetery board
meeting a week ago and we just discussed
a couple of things there's some trees
that large trees that needed to be
removed and um we were given permission
by the ass board to have that done it
was a matter of about
$2,600 I think and they were back there
doing that today I was back and had a
look they were doing a nice job very
careful Around The Monuments and that's
the why they're been removed because
they were danger to The Monuments if
they had
fallen um as well I was at the cemetery
this morning we had a permission from
the
board to start spending money the
anticipation is we're going going to do
this every year for uh repair of
monuments we have many many dozens of
monuments in the Sandy Hill Cemetery
that have been damaged over the years
that are in danger of falling over um
that are laying flat it's disrespectful
to the people that came before us in
this community and the cemetery board is
of the the feeling that is time we
started bringing these monuments back to
a suitable condition so um we are doing
a program starting hopefully Thursday
where we will be fixing some of these
monuments uh we're going to take a look
at that see how the repairs go and based
on that do a larger uh repair next year
so I'm looking forward to see how that
comes out V and putting the cemetery
into a condition that we can all be
proud of thank you thank
you SE Mary thank you mayor Shankar um
September 17th uh we had a Bia meeting
and we spent a lot of money that night
we spent uh ,000 towards the small
business week so small business week is
um going to be on October 22nd in the
new um room on the second floor in the
town hall
and uh the event is going to be
complimentary and uh we're going to have
guest speaker topics based on feedback
received from the businesses we did a
survey earlier this fall so that's good
we're also collaborating on October 26th
for Halloween Town we um have put $1,000
aside towards uh activations for
downtown so we're hoping to have a good
day that
day and uh from The Economic Development
Department the my my Main Street funding
was successful um the project falls
under the initiatives which were
supported by the grant um the Bia
contributed $5,000 and the town's
project budget include the following
it's the mural um Landscaping feature
for the clock tower the Waterfront patio
at the deep water dock wayfinding pools
and signage uh popups some prominade
improvements new traffic light pools
restaurant patios and Coast Guard
Gardens and I just wanted to to mention
too that uh the dive bench downtown by
the divers is it ever look good looks
really good so everybody check it out
and that's all for me thank you excuse
me can I just cut in here on the dive
bench I'm sorry but I forgot about this
last meeting and somebody mentioned it
to me down
street we have a new dive sign up as
well and whoever put the dive sign up
and the bench up did not get together
because you can't see part of the sign
for the top of the
bench uh you can from the side when
you're in the water but if you want to
look at the sign the sign is here and
the bench comes over it so I don't know
what we can do because it's a big
bench and we are having some
construction in that area
shortly so I I I don't know I'll leave
it with staff but something needs to be
done because people are losing and I
won't tell you the
uncomplimentary comment that I got but
um anyway I just pass that thank
you um Shankar just add to that I think
they they are looking at relocating that
sign for sure okay
yeah thank you counc Bron thank you
mayor Shankar um so there is a
Shakespeare meeting tonight fortunately
I will not be attending as I'm here um
Shakespeare is having a masquerade party
on November 2nd and it's we're hosting
it right here at Town Hall in our new
facility in the second floor there it's
going to be dinner and live music and
$75 per person and I have an upcoming
Library meeting as well thank
you Council Campbell I attended fired
meeting on October 1st uh upcoming this
weekend October 12th which is Saturday
uh there's an open house from 9 in the
morning till 1: in the afternoon lots of
kids activities uh hot dogs and treats
and the fire safety house will be there
so come one come all to that October 3rd
the fire department did a a Mayfield
evacuation drill so getting everyone out
Mayfield and that's safe and efficient
manner they're working on setting up
fire drills at the different
schools October 6 to 12 oh that's now is
Fire Prevention
Week um and then we had some great
anniversaries of volunteer firefighters
Paul arand 36 years Mike kocher 16 years
Ryan s 16 years Devin Burns one year
Steven Gilmore one year they have a new
recruit uh Nicholas butt he just started
off October 1st and George locky uh was
previously here and he came back from a
oneye absence so we've got him back
right thank you Council Campell Council
through you mayor Shankar uh I attended
a working group with h mayor Shankar and
lock it for uh naming policy and
complaint policies uh just some stuff on
operations uh the marina is now closed
splash pads shut down the camera's been
installed
down at the fire hall and I believe the
marina uh then the Queen's exhibit I
attended with councelor lock at Mar
Shankar which was well done at the new
facility up here and just a on a more
somber note a longtime uh Town employee
Mike Longton passed away last week so
I'm sure anybody that spent any time
around the Leo boan Community Center
would remember
Mike yes I'm glad you brought that up
they are doing a um
a celebration of life at the Leo boyman
Arena so do you know the date of that uh
in November in November so we'll be all
make sure we're there for that he was a
great great
guy okay thank you Council Kirkby well
done we're going to move on into our
staff reports we have a few of them
tonight the first one is item 73
-224 Community risk assessment from our
fire
Rainer recommendation reads that Council
approve the community risk assessment
for the town of Prescott in accordance
with regulation
37818 can mover and secondary for
discussion councelor Briton councelor uh
blet Chief floor is yours thank you
worship so in front of you is the staff
report and then the attachment is the
actual document which is 40 PS long so I
won't spend that much time going over
that but um basically what we've done is
a community risk assessment uh
identifies analyze and evaluates
prioritize risk to the the public and
and the community so we use uh data from
the Census we use uh information from
The Mont Fire Marshals uh document that
we send uh to them uh based on those
risks and type of calls so when we have
uh nine profiles here so these were the
work sheets that we used to get this
document so that was everything from
geographical uh building stock critical
infrastructure uh demographic
profile Hazard profile public fire
safety uh economic profile and then loss
and events of History so some of these
documents are already in our uh
emergency plan for example Hazard
profile and the critical infrastructure
so there's some meat and potatoes in the
document where they are now so what
we've done is used these other
worksheets to to f fill all of those
areas we take all of that and then we
use uh risk based on likelihood or risk
of potential risks so the consequences
so there's an actual uh
map there a chart sorry so you can see
in some of them there's green areas
yellow areas red areas so the red areas
obviously are higher risk so what do we
do to mitigate that that could be
uh pre-planning inspections uh training
uh working with uh neighbors to assist
us at a call with required uh going out
to the industries the buildings uh just
in in town
is what we do so we look at all those
areas and what you have in front of you
is that document at the end uh you will
find that there's a lot of stats out of
that uh the census doc document for us
uh it Tak quite a long time to get
all together uh but at the end of the
day there really wasn't a lot there with
this community risk assessment a lot of
it is is what we see out in the public
uh and then the the stats we Ed from the
fire Marshall's office and as you can
see at the bottom of that document I
guess the last few pages there's dreams
of uh documentation from the fire
Marshall's office that just adds up to
at the end of the day it tells you uh
the dollar LW for whether it's structure
whether it's uh vehicles uh and then
other type of calls we have I think the
most uh important document there of of
the Fire Marshals uh documentation is
the first pie chart so for example it
says I think it's 29.4% of all calls we
get are medical calls you know I think
it's 22 23% are false alarm calls but
false alarm calls go in another category
as well right there's sometimes uh
people are doing testing they'll call
the alarm company uh versus could be a
Mr Mrs Smith call where they think
there's an issue but it's proceed
emergency um but we still when we roll
out the door we don't know that right we
go get a page and we go off to a call an
emergency call we don't know that till
after so that's where you see all of
those documentation numbers after and
the percentages there are so the reason
why I have all of that in front of you
is to say it's it's a very uh unique
document uh we will uh P it you will see
that there are annual years uh each year
moving forward where if we find
something that we want to change because
it's a living document we will do that
and then every five years we do the
whole thing over again so new census
information and and whatnot um but as
you can see as I said a lot of stats uh
in front of you um be more than happy to
answer any questions you may
have I just thought maybe if you can't
have a easy way of sleeping tonight that
again you'll be
[Laughter]
good any questions for the
Chief look Mar thank you may Shankar
just um this was great it's eye opening
and for me I really looked at the
business and personal service mertile
and the lack of fire extinguishers and
not only that but the lack of training
so I see a great opportunity for the Bia
to give you guys a call and say hey
let's set something up for the
businesses
because I know even in our business
we're an insurance business but we still
have a kitchen right and we still have
other things so I think that would be
great in the future if we could maybe
collaborate with the Bia I think it's a
perfect opportunity so for example on
the open house we have coming up next
Saturday we'll have a tutor there and a
tutor is just a way of using uh fire
extinguisher to put out a pretend fire
uh and a lot of time the parents bring
their kids and stuff but if it's the
it's we have it right so it's something
we could work with you right even if we
had at the fire hall right and find a
day where you could bring uh the Bia and
we can figure that out because it's uh
it's amazing I mean I have fire exites
in my house hope I never use them but
the average person buy them it's great
that they have them but would not know
how to use right so yeah we definitely
thank
you very good anyone else have a
question Council m i can speaking from
experience as you well know that a fire
extinguisher in your house comes in very
handy and you should know how to use it
and the difference between one for the
kitchen and one for your couch in the
recck room or something like that yeah
my my microwave caught fires as I think
I mentioned about a year
ago yeah you were lucky you're looking
and quickly just I wanted to also
mention that there is a typle on table
of contents uh it's a formatting issue I
it looks great when you look at it but
when I print it off it comes up uh and
there was two areas as well uh because
this document started in
221 to to finish so there's a couple of
uh types in there uh I added the ACCC
for Community Center uh and then we had
uh a building uh listed as a possible uh
occupant for departments as wiser I
removed that at this point in time so
you will see that but I finally saw that
was needed to be taken out so rookie was
safe it's a lot of work here Chief you
did a great job and it's a good document
it's a almost like a living document
that we can have that we can always
refer to and update and change each year
yes yeah there's a lot of stats in there
the one stat I noticed was there's more
more people over the age of 85 than
there are kids under the age of four so
that's kind of interesting but I
remember that from the Census before as
well thank you sir uh no other questions
I'm going to call the question all in
favor Carri thank
you
okay item 122 is Staff report 744-2242
the draft Municipal complaint policy
from our director of admin clerk sorry
director of administration and clerk
Lindsay velcamp as well as Sam but Sam's
not here today right so just and Deputy
clerk Caitlyn mallerie recommendation
reads that Council receive the draft
Municipal complaint policy and the staff
be directed to bring the municipal
complaint policy as outlined in staff
report 74-20 24 to the council meeting
of October 21st 202 4 for final review
and
consideration uh can I have a mve and
seconder just for discussion please
counc
Campbell thank
you sh um it is recommended that
municipalities have formal complaint
policies and as councelor kiry re
earlier the policy working group did
meet on October 2nd um that working
group is made up of hander for pocket
and they reviewed the first draft of the
content policy uh with the manager of
community services the deputy myself the
purpose of the policy is to enable the
municipality to promptly and effect
effectively address service and Service
delivery complaints raised by members of
the public and the appr where all
complaints are dealt with in a fair
respectful transparent manner quickly as
possible The graft policy outlines
different roles for different
individuals
um including members of council the
mayor CAO department heads and members
of
Thea uh the complaint policy will
provide a process for handling
complaints which included the assessment
and acknowledgement once complaints are
received uh how to handle a complaint
when it is received how it's transferred
the investigation process and decisions
and possible resolutions timelines are
also outlined and tring requirements as
well we are still currently working on a
system for tracking um but for for just
the first draft we do we we're putting
forward Council to review and provide a
feedback and then whenever feedback is
collected will'll be brought forward to
the council meeting at the first for
further discussion and attached to the
uh report is the draft policy as well as
um a draft mockup of the Complaint Form
that would be available in hard copy and
also online on the website
and there's any
questions thank you missam any questions
from miss
mcam counc you mayor
Shanker I thought about this question
later and I think you just touched on it
so right now we're just this is the
draft and going to collect information
from fellow counselors or questions and
bring it forward to them first meeting
is that correct yeah through you shank
if there's discussion on the table we
can incorporate it based on discussion
this evening
afterward you can send an email we can
incorporate that as
well
questions um I'm reading through this
I'm just a
little just bit unclear to
me are the individual department
heads the final say as far as
um result a complaint irregardless of
whether it comes from staff
or that I I couldn't I've got gone
through this about three times and it's
it's you can it different ways it
waffles a little bit I think that needs
to
be firmed up B
[Music]
I believe our discussions we felt that
it would it would
be public or anybody can to uh if you
feel it's not clear though let let me
know how we can tighten that up to make
to provide that
Clarity but as of right now
because they do more than then it's the
obvious stuff that they do around town
if uh somebody's complaining about a
flower bed will say um then the actual
head of the public works
department right now we don't have one I
don't think um and Nathan left this this
week
uh that department head would look after
the
complaint and if the complaintant was
not satisfied with the solution that was
offered you're saying that it it goes to
the utsman from there for you so that
that's an option if they feel like the
result isn't what they want for
something like a flower bit though I
think the policy outlines an informal
and a formal complaint so it's the first
time you complain as a FL but it's not
readed that makes sense to rise the
director of operations so then make sure
that staff go up and clean up the flower
but if it's repeatedly requested over
and over again then it becomes a formal
complaint and there's more of an
investigation so then we look into it
and then the the result is to deal with
it internally so there's there's not
really an appeal
process but it would be the expectation
per head would be able to resolve that
issue okay okay well um
I've there was something else came
before Council a while ago and I made
the same comment and I'm going to make
the same comment about this one I can't
support something that does not give our
Town's people the
option of as a final Resort before going
to the
utsman to appealing directly for or to
council we're elected by the people in
the community they expect us to provide
good government we do the best that we
can but when there is a complaint if
they're not satisfied with how the
complaint is
handled I believe they should have the
ability to launch a final appeal to
this
group before they have to go through a
whole bunch of work which could take God
only knows how long and take it out of
this community to the
udman so uh
personally I can't
support anything of this ilk if it did
not contain that
option thank
you one
second in in preparation for this I
don't mind if we talked about it is that
Avenue used by any
municipalities so through you for this
policy I believe we quite a bit at
Northville stor North stor Stormont um
none of the ones that we looked at had
cancel as the final
appeal it's always up to
cancel I just don't want to turn Council
into hearing complaints all day long or
are appealed
complaints I don't want that to happen
and by you know in all respect if you
want to put that
in you know we have
to we have to trust our staff to do to
make the right
call you understand what I'm
saying yeah uh I do understand what
you're saying I don't agree with it
though I believe as I said that we are
elected not staff we represent the
people in the
community staff represents us but if the
people who are in the community have a
complaint and I use a flower bed as a
very poor example and I will admit it
but um if somebody in the community does
have a complaint I believe that they
should have the ability to complain to
council as the final result because you
know darn well they're going to complain
to all of us individually or out when
you're walking your dog
anyway and then we really can't respond
to it in an individual way it's it's
it's not within our power to do so and
we shouldn't so bringing it before
Council for a decision I believe it's
the proper way to do it the fact that
nobody else does it doesn't really
matter it's not going to change my
opinion on it so that is um that's the
way I feel about it thank you anyone
else oh sorry yes um a couple things I
know we went over most of this but I'm
just trying to clarify again so under
the complaints it's saying that um it
needs to be submitted in writing we're
considering email writing correct okay
and then under the formal um complaint
process it says um
it's going to be uh acknowledged in five
days is
um acknowledged and uh receipt of does
that mean we're just documenting it but
we're not letting them know like are we
letting the complaint person know within
five days that we received it and we're
looking into it or whatever so sh when
the form comes to whether it's handed in
in person or online it comes directly to
K myself we review it assess it figure
what to send it through to
then then they know where it's going and
then they also have that
first K through you mayor Shanker I kind
of agree with councelor McConnell but
not on every complaint I mean there
seems there almost needs to be like a
threshold of where Council would be
aware one for me is the unreasonable
Behavior right that there I feel like
should come to council or some kind of
information on that decision that maybe
you know we're going to trespass
somebody or something like that that for
me is kind of one or something where
staff really isn't sure on what the next
direction is you know they may feel that
you know there is a bit of uh legitimacy
to the complaint but there's also you
know a side of it that's not you know I
don't think Council we want to be like
you said bogged down with every
complaint that comes through staff
because staff is here to deal with that
but I do feel you know when we get to
that upper level of complaints that
Council should have some vision and
maybe even possibly some say on the
final decision of that matter and I
guess the the last question I'm sure
that was actually called in the the
handling you know for some of the staff
because we do have staff that has family
right connections I'm sure that would be
dealt with separately I.E if one of your
sons worked here and you were the
department head you're not going to
resolve that issue right that's going to
be moved to a conflict of interest and
moved to another department head is that
correct and should that be called out in
this document as far as the conflict of
interest
I mean it's something we can take into
consideration right like if it is a
conflict of interest well I don't think
honestly for myself comforable with any
family member making a decision on
another family
member as a councel okay Deputy clerk
sorry cler
sorry we're kind of getting into like an
matter at that point which would be
addressed when the person's on board and
hired they're not going to be reporting
to a family member we have certain
policies in place that kind of govern
that I don't see that kind of falling
under the compl policy as an HR matter
uh the COO and other department have
would be definitely be involved in doing
that so Ral
conflict through you mayor Shanker but
we do have current staff that reports to
family doing not
right I just yeah I mean that's that's
something we can do I mean you know
there something we can put in here in
event of a conflict a different
department head absolutely that's all
I'm looking for there that's an
easy councilor Camp uh Shankar um so in
the definitions it says complaint what
it is informal complaint shall made a
complaint communicated informally to
Municipal staff or
specific
department and then a formal complaint
it's submitted on this tracking form so
would the the process start with someone
being able to say their informal
complaint and if that's not dealt with
properly they would go to the form
thenal would
be call said calling in and saying that
Garden is not weed take that as being an
inform formal complaint or um there's a
pole outside my house that needs to be
filled inal point if it's
so you know it's been recorded three or
four times and the individual doesn't
feel like it's being resolved then we
would recommend a formal complaint and
it is put on the form and then there's
more of a process
involved just to put out there we we've
never really had anything really rise to
that we staff are quite good to deal
with our complaint informally um but it
is good practice pass
just in Cas oh I'm not not quite
done um so it says in this document that
all complainants will be treated with
respect and will not receive adverse
treatment or any form of reprisal so if
we're going to be saying that then we
need to be meaning that it's just I
ready Ela
I first of all
um we have enough complaints that we
hear on a regular basis as
Council um we we weren't
elected to be a complaint
board around this table we were elected
to make policies and
procedures um and help our town grow
and we have enough on our plate
that you know I don't want 15 people
showing up here one night and we're here
until
midnight um our staff is quite qualified
to
handle all of our
complaints will they inform us
absolutely when we need to be informed
we don't need to know that there's a
pole that hasn't been filled in two
weeks right
our staff is quite qualified to handle
all of our
complaints thank you thank you Council
bton thank you mayor Shanker I just
wanted to uh comment on a couple things
that you said and Justin said over there
and
actually coun Burton touched on it as
well
um in the time that I've been here which
I know a couple of you hate me to say
but staff has been well able to look
after the complaints that have come our
way well aable we are not and we would
never be a wash in complaints here these
are the very odd exceptions that might
rise to a
council a couple of times during a term
in my expectations
and as to counselor Burton's comments
about being here all night we used to
meet four times a month we meet two now
we're not short of time to be meeting so
um being a washing complaints it's just
not going to happen our staff is quite
capable of handing the vast majority
this would be an
extremely unusual situation where it
would come to Council in
my experience thank you thank
you all right seeing no further comments
we're
gonna I'll just reread the
recommendation we receive the draft
Municipal complaint policy and that
staff be directed to bring the municipal
complaint policy as outlined in the
report to the council meeting of October
21st for final review and consideration
all in
favor
V It's the final thing that as a slow
still discuss it though
yeah favor no favor okay you got it Gary
thank
you
okay item 123 is Staff report 75- 2024
the draft Municipal asset naming
from our director of men and clerk
Lindsay
Vamp Community Services semantha Jan
Miller and Deputy clerk Caitlyn mallerie
the recommendation reads that Council
receive the draft Municipal asset naming
policy and that
St be directed to bring the municipal
asset naming policy as outline FL the
council meeting of October 21st for
final review and
cons in second for discussion councel
Burton counc
Kirkby got this one thank
you following discussions of upcoming
meeting commities I felt it was a good
time to bring forward any Poli C Council
to help guide coun staff with a fair and
consistent process for ning any assets
SCH assets that may come up as I st
previously the policy working the group
consisting of mar sh care counselors
kiry and M met on October 2nd and they
also reviewed this draft report um so
the policy would provide the
establishment of naming Reserve list
this would be a place to uh keep all
names that are that are brought forward
during naming opportunities living
document that as BL commes arve we TR to
councel to take
from um it would set the procedure for
gaining Municipal facilities and as well
it provides clear guidance to council
staff and the public for naming of
facilities of the town of Prescott
and the form which is attached to the
report uh would only be made available
when Council decides there are naming
opportunities
foral
assets the policy outlines naming
criteria for the assets it explains
what's considered an asset and touches
upon the renaming of
asset as I said previously the naming
reserved list would track all submitted
suggestions um that meet the listed
criteria that are in the policy and
meing opport are to be identified by
Council and on naming anding of
Municipal assets are to be approved by
Council um it is suggested that this
policy be reviewed once per term of
cancel so it'll come back the next time
and attached to the report is the policy
including the draft form
which available will be available online
to submit electronically and can be
printed out and hanged out in hard copy
and as a recommendation read the policy
will come back to counc final
consideration next
thank you m
famp questions for her counc kir he you
Mar Shanker uh the only one that I kind
of disagreed with was waiting till the
person's deceased and I kind of get the
idea of why that was recommended but at
the same time you know if councelor
McConnell is 99 years old and we decide
to name a Street or building after him I
don't think we have to wait till he's
deceased do you know what I mean I just
feel like that might it
might you know I think uh the deceased
part I know why it's there but I feel
like if we ever had to go back and
change something then we would change it
uh but I just feel like you know when we
named the Leo boan Community Center he
was still alive the elae chartran
that was a little bit different uh but I
just feel like waiting till somebody's
deceased is kind doesn't give them that
moment of Celebration to acknowledge the
work or the impact they've had on the
community so that's that's the only one
kind of for me
that's is that under prominent citizens
being relased or both and Council right
it could be I think it's I know it's
only called out for them to here but it
could be really applied if you thought
about it could be applied to anybody in
theory right I mean you could take
a a monetary donation and name something
after somebody and then 10 years from
now that person could be in the negative
Spotlight and you would want to rename
it because of that also right so just
kind of you know if that's what we're
worried
about then maybe you know we don't name
anything after people if we really want
to be
safe Council Burton thank you I just
want to know what the the train of
thought about the former elected members
of council like the deceased same as the
kind of on the same uh line as councilor
Kirkby was saying what's the train of
thought like like why do they have to be
deceased
and to me I just take right out of there
and not
name anything after like former elected
members of council scratch that whole
line yeah I would just scratch that
whole line really we do have some past
prominent uh Council officials right
like Don Don irvan was one that was
mentioned a few times a lot for this
town right and and Sandra La too yes I
mean going back further than that I I
don't recollect anyone past
Onan even the pictures they're
G oh yeah Pat Kingston yes but so I mean
we we have done it right yeah I think
we're just trying to avoid
that Declaration of interest and stuff
like that right like we don't want to
name it the the Kirk B soccer field or
whatever like that right you I think the
other the other wor if you name
something and then that person commits a
crime or something that's kind of the
okay you know what I mean yeah that one
okay but I I think too in in my in my
opinion we're in a modern society now
right we want to keep things mod
modernized know how am I saying that be
modern and to name
something like you said Mar Shankar like
some of the people up here yes we don't
we know a few of them but we don't know
90% of those people up there and we need
to move forward and be Forward Thinking
people so as a
council we'll give give everyone else
you're good councelor M first of all I'd
like to thank councelor Kirkby for his
kind thoughts on my 99 years over there
but I'm not as close as some other
members of the council
understand you're I I agree completely
with everything that he said um I don't
believe you should have to be dead to be
acknowledged and again I don't think
we're we've got a lot of people that
because I can only think I think of
three things that we've named since s
years so it's not doesn't happen often
and I know when we name those things
they picked around there was a lot of
thought went into it
and but I don't think you have to be you
shouldn't have to be
G it's nice if you're here and you can
be acknowledged I think what we're
trying to do here is just you know make
up some rules and stuff like that so
it's a little easier to pick a name I
think going forward if we have to name
something I can see us being here till
midnight on that night you know
one of those things you never know but
we can have a policy that we put
together whether they're deceased or not
we can we can vote on that or we can
talk about that some more but we you
know we still have two weeks between our
next meeting we have any ideas or
suggestions I would emphasize that we
send it in Miss famp so she
knows anyone else oh sorry you're back
to you so three shank last one and I
know I mentioned this in the working
group and I think the reason why I
requested the deceased going is because
I'd like that to be removed but I'd also
like to add I know staff won't be
comfortable with this but the inclusion
of staff that could possibly have
something named after them and it could
be you know I just think if we don't
call it out in here it could never
happen right and I know staff doesn't
want that but I think if Council decided
to recognize a staff
member in a naming policy then so be it
as long as they're alive they can say
yes or
no maybe they shouldn't be working at
down at that time
but anyway thank
you just a quick one it does say and I
think I miss this to be be honest with
you uh it does say including but not
limited to
which certainly would include Town staff
or
anybody
really not to catch all phrase right so
yeah the only problem with lists is
they're they're they're they're not
infinite right they could could just
have they could be changed in the next
term okay anyone
else so I'm going to call the question
then all in favor
cared thank
you
okay item 124 is Staff report
76202 Community emergency preparedness
Grant 2024 25 intake uh this report is
from our Treasurer and CAO Matthew
Armstrong the recommendation read that
Council direct staff to submit an
application for the community emergency
preparedness Grant
2024 25 intake in the amount of $50,000
as outlined in staff report
76-
2024 mover and secondary for discussion
is councelor lock councelor McConnell
Matthew the floor is
yours so this is probably reminiscent of
a previous report that we brought last
year and in
2324 the first intake of of this
particular Grant there were 113
applications
approved as part of that initial intake
and now they're opening up again for
another intake and I believe there's one
more intake for 2526 that will come out
next year so going through uh really
it's to help communities be prepared for
emergencies and what we identified in
last year is outfitting the Leo
Community uh Community Center as a
emergency shelter so that includes uh
preparing it so that it can accept
mobile generator uh to be able to uh run
if the there is no electricity and then
also outfitting it with uh cops blankets
ory supplies on hand so that uh in the
event that we have to evacuate a certain
number of people or a certain portion of
town that we be able to uh take them
right the community center so U really
that's what it's based on again uh the
one thing that we did remove is just the
basic training uh we have budget for
that in the oper AAL budget and so
really it's just focusing on creating
that uh preparedness for the venue to be
used as an emergency evacuation Center
um nothing more than that really no
other changes um and it's just seeking
to uh submit that Grant under the
same kind of context once again yes
remember that questions from Mr
Armstrong councelor Campbell you mayor
Shanker I'm just curious to know if they
told you why at all that we didn't get
it they did not um other than that there
was a lot of applications and uh they
did not offer any response in terms of
uh information we did go through um a
number of the other to see what was
supported and what wasn't um this seemed
to fit well within it but at the same
time um we understand that there's only
a limited I believe it's $5 million a
year uh that is going through the Grant
and there's over 400 municipalities so
yeah I just wonder if it would be a good
idea to add something a little different
in case they just thought well we're not
going to fund that that's that's not a
good idea I don't know if we could add
anything a little bit different or just
try again so my suggestion is try again
if it doesn't work then uh certainly
taking a look at what they funded this
time and then going through that to
determine um if there's something more
or different that we should apply for in
the the third round okay thank thank
you through you m Shanker Matthew could
uh I'm thinking of an ice storm so you
got the generator there is the Leo Bo
Community Center in a position to be
used in the winter to create heat enough
heat to House people if there was an ice
storm yeah so there's the stand heaters
that that are there and and pickle balls
play through to Wi currently um really
one of the things that we would do and I
can't remember who did or not last year
but actually just turn the heat shields
away from he stands into the center so
that's one way that able to do that also
bringing in large industrial heaters uh
would be able to to do that as well and
then one more question if you don't mind
through you Mar Shankar Matthew let's
say there's a forest fire up north and
we take
residents from the north into the Leo
boan Community Center is there
compensation provided to the town for
each resident that's brought into the
Leo boen Community Center generally yes
and so once in a while depending on the
the rate of forest fires in the the
northern part of the province um they
will put out a Clea for asking
municipalities to uh to volunteer for
that and there is a reimbursement
process uh that that's attached to that
uh we haven't had it in the last two
years um what they have done is equipped
some of the larger more Northern
municipalities with uh with equipment to
be able to support those and so now they
have a certain base to be able to work
with but if they go beyond that then
they ask for a general uh support from
from all
municipalities because I could imagine
there would be some cost to housing IE
food water
right that the town would have to if
it's outside of town then then
absolutely when we're supporting those
Norman communities then it's certainly
they reimburse if it's for doing an
emergency within the the town borders
then then certainly a
first amount that's equivalent to 3% of
your property tax intake is adored by
the town and then amounts after that uh
is supported by the
profits last one okay uh and then as far
as the accessible uh washroom I know
that we had talked about transferring
the old first aid room down there to be
accessible are is that in process or
would this money could maybe be used I
don't think we could use it necessarily
for that we do
have an idea that we' like to bring
forward to council at the next meeting
there is uh Recreation funding for
rehabilitation of sites and we have a
few ideas of what we could uh do at the
real board Community Center and one of
those is our biggest issue is that the
uh waste pipe is much deeper under the
concrete than we thought it was going to
be so uh that our original estimate is
shy of of what it's going to actually so
we're looking at other options in terms
of being able to support uh an
accessible washroom I don't think this
would necessarily be the the Avenue but
I think there are a couple of other
avenues that we explore perfect thank
you thank you
Council thank you mayor shanar um
storage I think you mentioned the last
time we discussed this last year that
these and blankets and what all um
storage could be a bit of a problem down
there you talked about possibly a
container or
something uh is that part of this I
didn't see it anywhere so part of that
um the five I think there was about
5,000 or 2500 that we uh moved and
removed from the basic training and we
could be able to use part of that a a
container the most recent container we
bought I think was 5500 or 6,000 and
absolutely I think that's could
absolutely be something that we'd be
able to support we would also make it so
that uh if Augusta or cardal need it
that it is then transportable by just
putting it on a forklift on the back of
a truck and then moving it along so so
yeah uh in that we would include the
storage to be able to to move it around
to what we need
to yeah um do you really think though
that a steel storage container
is going to prevent dampness or some of
these blankets things like that uh I
don't want to sweep with the D blanket
Bey honest with you so some of the
things like the blankets and whatnot we
would find places like underneath the
stands that sort of thing and then uh
put them in something that's going to be
uh keeping it from uh load and damage
anything like that so anything that does
have the ability to have um you know
that sort of issue uh where it could be
eaten away or that sort of thing then
definitely would make other arrangements
the the Cs tend to be a little bit more
collapsible those types of things and
then you're able to slip on the cover so
again it's I'm not saying that we would
necessarily buy the container but it is
an option if we wanted to to be able to
say this is kind of how we would be able
to move around if we had to okay thank
you all right
s yeah so sharing between the
municipalities this is only us that is
applying for this money correct so um so
we would it would only be in case of
emergency so so let's say um you know
something happened in Spencerville and
they they needed CS that sort of thing
then certainly I think you know they
would put out a general plea to say does
anyone have anything we can help and
support and in which case we take to
there but our first and foremost
priority would be president pra and
helping out where we are able to so
obviously if these units were used by
any neighboring Township the neighboring
Township would be on the hook to I
either replace
or uh
clean the items before The Returned
absolutely we expect it to be returned
in the same condition that it's went out
and if it's not then replaced at that
time reson for you that's
good all
right okay so
um I won't read the question again
because it's just the same as one last
year
we have a move in second or all in favor
carried thank
you okay the I the next one which is our
last one is Staff report 77-20 24 the
housing enabling core servicing stream
join
application support is from our CAO and
Treasurer Matthew Armstrong the
recommendation reads that Council direct
staff to submit a joint application with
adjusted Township for the house housing
enabling core servicing stream for road
infrastructure as outlined in staff
report
77- 2024 mover and secondary for
discussion councelor Burton councelor
Lockett Matthew the floor is yours thank
you very much Mr so this was uh
announced recently it differs from the
how enabling water system infrastructure
and that particular application will be
presenting a report at our next meting
uh to discuss that application but this
is really focused on Bridges and Roads
and how it could possibly uh enable
housing so if you remember kind of in
our strategic plan or in our well
strategic plan is very focused on
housing our official plan already
envisioned a road uh running from
industrial over to safaya and eventually
over into aesta Township as well as the
joint need study talked about running
along that area as well so really this
came along uh Augusta is interested in
submitting an application they invited
us if we would like to uh to to tag
along uh on their application they would
be the primary we would be a supporter
of it and and really it's trying to
expand their network uh between safia
and Merin Lane and this seemed to fit
quite well in um you know what we talked
about St strategic standpoint as well as
our connections into to austa so um with
that we we had the engineers kind of
take a look to say if we're not talking
about water and sewer or anything else
we're just talking about uh kind of the
road then uh to bring it from industrial
across the the northern uh side of next
polymers and then down by the Operation
Center um we're talking somewhere in the
million dollar range and that's
basically to to clear it from where it
is today there's not a lot of tree
removal things like that if you remember
it's a dirt path as it is today so and
really runs pretty much exactly where
the road right way is and so You' be
kind of clearing that air putting your
granular A and B down as well as two
this of B sh uh really the the overall
width will be 6 and half meters plus a
meter on either side for a shoulder and
then from a stormline management
perspective there would be dites along
both sides so um you know a lot more of
a a road as opposed to a street is what
we would be looking at and then it also
provides another way to get to the
semour Recreation Complex as opposed to
using Church shells so um we thought it
was a good fit um as I mentioned Augusta
is the lead uh on the location and
thought that this might be an
opportunity for us to to take along with
them and be able to uh really look at
one of those roads that we've envisioned
uh being expanded in the future and this
actually provides us an opportunity to
do
that very good thank you Mr Armstrong
any questions for Mr
armr all right oh almost got through I'm
always here for you sir you Matthew what
is the cost difference uh because I
imagine that shoulder is not paved that
shoulder would be paav yes that shoulder
would be paav that meter okay and then I
guess my question is I know we don't
want to add sewer and water due to the
cost but lighting Street lighting would
that not that couldn't fall under this
request or
the it didn't specifically say Street
Lighting in the uh information now what
we do know is there's already RSL poles
that run from Industrial
uh across the back of of pretty much
right in the right way that that we're
talking about and so adding Street
linting would be relatively simple um
because if we're not adding polls we
would just use the polls that are
already there that sort of thing then um
and certainly I think it's we could
perhaps include as part of the
contingency um that that we have there
um but as soon as we started adding
polls things like that then that number
grows exponentially so we're trying to
to keep it at a reasonable level and it
doesn't preclude Water and Sewer uh
being under those roads it's just that
this grant would not fall so it was
strictly road infrastructure and and
that's where we we kind of looked at
from that perspective and there's
there's nothing to say that couldn't
kind of put a half meter on one side two
meters on the other uh from a shoulder
perspective to be able to then provide
the multi-use path those types of things
but overall 8 and 1/2 meter WID and then
we can work with it that so the 8 and a
half meter is paved okay yeah perfect
thank
you Campbell Shar um not knowing about
roads do we have to do any kind of
environmental assessment that there
absolutely anytime you build a road uh
it's you have to do environmental
assessment um and then uh when depending
on the materials that you're taking out
uh that will dictate what you can reuse
or what would you put that into the
grant um it's not something that's
permitted in there again it' be covered
by the 125,000 but in terms of the uh
actual
um studies and things like that then
then it wouldn't be included in there
and this is the town of Prescott's
road so we'd be maintaining it correct
and if we had this huge bill from an
environmental assessment we'd be paying
for that or would Augusta share with
them uh so roads that are in prto um we
would pay
for so regardless of of what uh road
that you build even when we when we
replace roads there's a process that we
go through from an environmental
standpoint okay thank
you coun con thank you mayor Shanker uh
given the fact that this a buts cuts
through whatever way you want to look at
it are Southern Industrial Park this
would be engineered to heavy Road
standards
for cic and presenting it would correct
it would be engineered to uh kind of the
exactly as you're saying it kind of a
road perspective that would allow for
heavy trucks thank
you okay so everyone's good with that I
call the question all in favor okay
good thank you sir okay we're going to
move on to uh we have a res resolution
tonight um the rec recommendation reads
that Council appoint Rob somalo to the
Augusta Township Township of Edwards
Cardinal and town of Prescott op
Detachment board for the remainder of
the term of council mover and Secor
councel B and councel McConnell any
discussion on this all in
favor carried thank
you we also have two bylaws this evening
uh first one is bylaw
41224 being a bylaw to authorize the
submission of an
application Ontario infrastructure and
lands Corporation for financing of
certain ongoing Capital works and in
corporation of the town of Prescott to
authorize temporary borrowing from oilc
to need expenditures in connection with
such Capital works and to authorize
long-term for such Capital works through
the issues of Adventures to oilc be read
and pass signed by the mayor and Clerk
and sealed by the Seal of
Corporation mover and second for this
Deputy mayy young any discussion on this
all in favor car thank
you better sign
okay the second one is bylaw
42-22 being a bylaw to approve the
submission of an application to the
interior infrastructure and lands
Corporation for the long-term financing
of the certain Capital works of the
corporation of the town of Prescott and
to authorize the entering into a rate
offer letter agreement pursuant to which
the municipality will issue debentures
to O be read and pass sign by the mayor
and Clerk and sealed by the Seal of
Corporation this is for the fire rescue
truck the last one was for the water
tower mover and
seconder mooved by councelor Kirkby
second by councelor Campbell all in
favor car thank
you does that mean the truck is here or
close going to be the parade
Willet think so you sp this way
worship uh we are working on it but I
think we will probably be the end of
November but
obvious for the
we I gonna say I didn't know here was
coming in okay uh no new business this
evening no notice of the motion there
are two proclamations this
evening first one is the annual child
care worker and early childhood educator
Appreciation Day whereas your years of
research confirms the benefits of high
quality Early Learning and child care
for young children's intellectual
emotional social and physical
development and later life outcomes and
whereas Child Care promotes the
well-being of children and responds to
the needs of families and the broader
Community by supporting quality of life
so that citizens can fully participate
in and contribute to the econ economic
and social life of their community and
whereas train and knowledgeable
registered Early Childhood educators
and Child Care staff are the key to
Quality in early learning and child care
programs and whereas registered Early
Childhood Educators and child care
workers will be vital to the success of
the Canada wide Early Learning and child
care system therefore be it resolved
that the town of Prescott does hereby
Proclaim October 24th 2024 as the 24th
annual child care worker and early
childhood educator appreciation Daye in
recognition of the education dedication
and commitment of childcare workers to
Children their families and quality of
life in the
community next Proclamation is uh this
week's October 5th to 11th is the
Ontario Cadets week whereas Canada has a
dynamic Cadet program with numerous
Cadet cores and squadrons across Ontario
and whereas these Cadet cores provide
programs for air Army and SE Cadets 12
to 18 years of age and whereas all Cadet
programs assist young people to develop
skills that serve them well in their
transition to adulthood and whereas
Cadet programs focus on physical fitness
leadership citizenship and teamwork
skills providing experiences not found
anywhere else and whereas Cadets are
active members of their communities and
make valuable contributions to Society
on a daily basis and whereas Ontario
Cadet weeks honors the outstanding young
Canadians whose unique personal and
Collective development through Cadet
programs will help them be successful in
Canadian society as well as recognize
those who support the programs directly
and
indirectly therefore be it resolved that
the corporation of the town of Prescott
does hereby proclaim the week of October
5th to 11th 2024 as Ontario Cadets week
in the town of
Prescott thank you if I may yeah sure if
I may
you questionable it's not a question
it's just to add to the cadets uh
tomorrow kicks off their uh parade in
jimc at the high school so they'll be
performing their uh it's here kicks off
their third annual Cadet week please
join us Tuesday for the CO's Parade
starting at 6:30 p.m. at Jim C at South
Grenville District High School if any
guests that would like to attend please
arrive by
6:15 you're going I might be there
good you want to pick me
up we have a
b uh any media no media okay so item 19
is closed session the recommended motion
reads that Council move into closed
session at 7:24 p.m. to discuss matters
pertaining to approval of closed session
minutes and purchase and sale sale of
property under Section 2 3 92c of the
municipal act a proposed or pending
acquisition or disposition of land by
the municipality or local board and at
the CAO Treasurer director of admin
clerk Economic Development officer
Deputy clerk remain in the room for
items 19.1 and
19.2 and representatives from Leonard
commercial realy remain in the room for
item
19.2 that's you guys mve in secondary
please councelor kby councelor
Mar any discussion all in favor
car just take a few minutes and then
we'll uh be ready to go thanks
great back uh rise and Report during the
closed session Council approved close
session minutes dated from September
16th under item 19.1 and received
information and provided staff Direction
on item 19.2 purchase and sale we also
have a recommendation that reads that
counc ccil direct staff to prepare the
bylaw to sell approximately 33 Acres of
surplus land to the northeast of the
Town operations building and that the
bylaw be brought forward to the council
meeting of October 21st 2024 for
discussion and consideration can I have
a move and seconder councelor Burton
Deputy Mayor Young all in
favor Carri thank
you item 21 is the confirming bylaw the
recommendation reads that byw
43224 being a bylaw to confirm the
proceedings of the council meeting held
on September
16th thank you October 7th be read and
pass signed by the mayor and Clerk and
sealed by the seal the corporation M and
secondary councelor Campbell councelor
Lockett all in favor thank you item 22
is adjournment the recommendation reads
that the meeting be adjourned to Monday
October 21st at 6 pm the time is now
9:07 PM moved by councelor Kirkby
seconded by councelor burton all in
favor carried thank you everyone