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Okay. Good evening everyone. Call the

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planning commission meeting to order. Is

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Monday, December 1st at 6 o'clock. We'll

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do a roll call. Steve

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>> here.

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>> Bailey

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>> here.

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>> Kate

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>> here.

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>> Mike

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>> here. Okay.

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>> Thank you. Uh

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I'll look for a motion to approve the

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planning commission minutes from

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November 3rd.

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>> Make the motion. Second. Second.

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>> Okay, we have a motion, second to

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approve plan commission minutes. Is

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there any discussion on the motion? Not

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all those in favor say I.

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>> Opposed? Okay. Next item on the agenda

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is facade improvement program

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recommendation of financing preferred

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projects to the city council. Matt,

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>> thank you, mayor, and commission

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members. So, um, last meeting we went

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over the the applicants. Um,

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we just have an overview up here. I

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won't walk it through again, but we

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asked you all to score them. We got six

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of you. Uh, applications were turned

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back in. I'll dive into or the scoring

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sheets, I should say, were turned back

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in of the seven um, plan commission

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members. So, uh, 115 Orange Street.

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Again, this project was installed LP

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site on stuckle face of building uh with

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the board and batten installing new

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windows and doors and painting the

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building. Total project cost was just

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over 26,000 and they were asking for

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just over 13,000 as a 50% match. They

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had [clears throat] estimated the start

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of their project on February 1st with an

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end date of May 31st. Um so with the

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scoring um that was turnin for 115

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Orange Street out of a 0 to 40 scale,

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the average from the plan commissioners

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was 32.8. eight. Uh the comments that we

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received from you was uh the project

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adds to improving the downtown. The

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owner has already done uh ready to start

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possible good bang for the money and add

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new business to the downtown. Hard to

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give the building a historic look. Um

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the opportunity for improvements using

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tax dollars in this programs will have a

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larger larger impact on Main Street

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considering the business owners that

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have applied this time. As we look ahead

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to the other opportunity the taxpayers

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will offer the business owners of our

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downtown, I would encourage

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reapplication.

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Uh 139 and 141 Broad Street, uh

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replacement of the upper level windows

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throughout the um both of the buildings.

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Uh the windows quote that we did receive

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was too full cuz the applicant is doing

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the work themselves. So it doesn't

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include contract labor um was from Home

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Depot and full windows that those

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windows came in pieces. the full windows

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and the custom size that had the arches

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came from Renewal by Anderson. As a

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result, to keep more of the historic

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look, the applicant was requesting um

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the Renewal by Anderson windows. Um

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total project cost is 42,419 for the for

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the replacement for a matching grant of

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$21,29.50.

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Uh based on your scores, the average

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score was 32.2 for this uh project. Uh

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the commissioner comments uh were will

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improve the look of the building. good

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investment. Keeps the downtown

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historical look and is starting this

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year would like to see all the window

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openings with arches to have the arch

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windows for the historical look. Uh and would be amazing

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to keep and maintain the tall curve

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glass windows on this building.

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And then for 144 Broad Street, uh this

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project replaces windows brick on north

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side of the building with LP smart

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sighting. Replaces the main street

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awning with new with new siding tuck

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pointing west and south siding of brick.

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Two quotes to receive for the work. Uh,

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one of the phases that is being pushed

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to a later port with sidewalk

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alterations. Uh, with this sidewalk

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being removed in the LP siding on the

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northwest side of the pro of the

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building, total project cost was $17,62.

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So, they requesting the full 50,000 or

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40 or 43% of the total project. So, uh,

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with that, the total score across the

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commissioners was 31. Uh commissioner

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[clears throat] comments was sounds like

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a great project as the building is in

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rough shape. Not going to start until

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spring of 2020 2026 should be moved to

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2026 program. Uh don't like the covering

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up removing of the historic brick look

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that's on the side facing Orange Street.

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Uh and project is great because it gives

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the building a fullscale facelift and

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seems to be the best value for taxpayers

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as property owners are putting in more

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than half the cost.

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So scoring overview uh 100 or 115 Orange

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Street scored at 32.8 8 139 and 141

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Broad Street scored at 32.2 and 144

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Broad Street scored at 31. Um as we

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mentioned 2024 program has 50,000 uh the

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top two score projects total 34,239.50

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with 21,29.50

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going to 139141 Broad Street and then

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13,30 going to 115 Orange Street. Uh if

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those two projects were approved that

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would leave a remaining balance of

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15,760.50

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50 cents to roll over to either 2026 or

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other future projects in future years.

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So, uh, with that, um, recommendation

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would be due to lack of funding, ask the

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property owners of 144 Broad Street to

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apply to the 2026 facade improvement

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program with final applicants being

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approved in April of 2026. We do already

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have another application that has come

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in for the 2026 pro pro project.

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Although it still has some missing

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pieces, but um those are due to the end

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of February of 2026

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>> Um so there would be two applicants that

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would be going at least for now,

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possibly more for the 2026 project. Uh,

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and then the re recommendation is

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consider recommending council approving

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the projects for 115 Orange Street and

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139 and 141 Broad Street for a total

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cost of $34,239.50.

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they would like to alter or make changes

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or any of the options are at your

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disposal. So, I'll turn it over to you

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guys for comments and questions.

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we have in the priority. Um, so then we

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then to roll over the 15,000 to 2026 or

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just future projects.

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when you want to use it. I would we

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don't really need a recommendation I

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guess for the first part. I can just

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when I talk to them I'll ask them if

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they would like to get their

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application. And I guess the one the one

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couple comments we did receive regarding

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this project was not only because it's

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not scheduled to start to the spring,

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but the other one was the brick um

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facade on the Orange Street side if

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>> that would be a bummer if they cover

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>> right, so right now they're proposing

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doing LP sighting on that side, removing

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the brick.

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I mean, that one needs it the most. So,

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hopefully the 2026 application, we can

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re-review it because that building is

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definitely in rough shape and it's on

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Main Street, so be nice. That's ours.

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>> So, are we going to make a motion to

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approve it the way for uh

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the 15760?

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>> I'll make the motion.

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>> I'll second it. I have a motion, a

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second to uh approve the projects for

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115 Orange Street and 139 131 Broad

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Street total cost 34 239

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and remainder go to future projects. Any

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discussion on the motion?

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If not, all those in favor say I.

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>> I opposed motion.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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plan updates

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part A, chapter 8, land uses and

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planning for future cur.

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>> I'm going to turn it over to Josh right

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away. Josh, do you want me to keep this

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map up or do you want me to go up to the

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chapter the draft?

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» All right. Let's see what he's got. So

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due to the setup, what I'm going to do

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of share, but this just this is just a

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zoomed in version of your packet. So

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it's just easier to look at

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this last time, but I thought it's it's

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just worth going over to make sure we

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all understand what it is we're we're

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this is going to be probably the most

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used map in your plan. Um, ultimately,

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it's going to help decide what resonings

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you approve and what what districts you

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allow them to go into. So, um, just

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wanted to start with, you know, we'll go

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through one by one. We didn't have the

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time to do it last time, but um and the

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other thing I included in your packet,

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it was the town of Clifton and Town of

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Oakrove comprehensive plans. So, we

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don't have to follow those necessarily,

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but I just wanted you to see what they

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were planning. And some of those I don't even know I don't recall the

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dates on those. I think those are all

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date on the Oakrove one, but I'm

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guessing that one's a little bit older,

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too. um maybe outdated even. So um I

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we get done with this plan is we have to

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share the plan with the other adjacent

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municipalities so they'll be able to see

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what is planned for from the city side

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of things. Ultimately your control is

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very limited besides extr territorial

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plat review without extr territorial

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zoning. Uh and plat review really you

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don't get to dictate what the use is.

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subdivision part of it. So, um, if you

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look at the first one, it's on the north

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side. Uh, and I know these were probably

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time, but I'll zoom in here.

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So, that whole west side of 35 really or

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right. Probably not. Um, but just wanted

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to this is the map that we have. So, I

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didn't want to make changes from what we

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talked about last time.

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>> I think it would make sense to have that

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be the whole thing be um what we have a

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commercial.

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>> So, number two is is a mix

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>> industrial commercial.

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>> Commercial, residential is the number

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two.

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>> Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay.

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>> That's a mix there. There's a little

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sliver

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about like what's going to go there. A

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gas station or something. So, it should

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be

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>> So, it should be residential then. So it

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should be part of that number two.

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[snorts]

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All right. And then number two up north of the highway and east of F.

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We're we're good with commercial

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residential mix of commercial and

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residential at the intersection. Um and

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that just again that gives you some

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flexibility. Doesn't tie you into one or

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the other and it gives you room to

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develop either. The only one I'm

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wondering about just for a discussion

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standpoint, so where we have the number

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one if that one would make sense to have

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that also maybe be the multifamily

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residential, but I don't know. I was

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just going to throw that out there

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just because of where it is. So you'd

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have number [clears throat]

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three.

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So underneath three is four and four is

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the I got to keep referencing this

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commercial. where we're like what I

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thought of immediately when I saw the

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three and the four next to like how we

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have it is kind of Woodberry. You get

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like the [clears throat] strip malls and

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then you get like the apartment

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buildings like right next to it.

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>> So with two being

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the industrial commercial

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>> well two would be residential commercial

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>> uh on the number two

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>> two would be resident commercial

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residential. So that's east of F and

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north of 35.

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>> Okay. Okay. Okay. So, all right. I'm

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seeing the colors just wrong. Um,

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>> I'll try to zoom in.

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>> No, no worries. I I got it on here. So,

328
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then the only thing I'm wondering is if

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um one should maybe be either

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multif family residential or residential

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commercial just because of like how that

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intersects right there. But I'm just

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throwing that out as a discussion point.

334
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>> Yeah. Great.

335
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>> I'm not like set on it. I just wanted to

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throw that out cuz it seems like it

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would make sense cuz it's kind of a busy

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area.

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>> Mhm.

340
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>> One includes all of this, right?

341
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>> I'm saying if we just if you only look

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at where the number one is, if we were

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to take that and either make it the

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orange, which is the multi- family

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residential or this.

346
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>> So, kind of how the map would work is

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the under the colors are the underlying

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area and then the numbers

349
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>> kind of specify the uses and the

350
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narrative a little bit more defined. So

351
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yeah, now I'm really talking about the

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square that the numbers in right now

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essentially. So that was the only thing

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I was wondering is in that box right

355
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there if that should be residential

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commercial or if it should also be

357
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>> multi- family residential

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and do we have a

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so when we have it as residential

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commercial can that also count as the

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multif family residential

362
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>> typically you want to identify it so you

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so what we have in here is the densities

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so we have high density

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And the ranges of density, low density,

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2 to three units, medium density, 3 to

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eight units per acre, and then high

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density is 9 plus units per acre. So,

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it's kind of we don't really say multif

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family, but in order to get high density

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or even medium density, you're going to

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have some multifamily.

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That was the only thing I was wondering

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is if that would make sense for

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>> that they have it for new apartments or

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condos.

377
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Just cuz if you look at where number

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five is, which is where we are right

379
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now, right?

380
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>> No, it's

381
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tractor. Is that tractor square?

382
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>> No, that's not.

383
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>> It's outside the city yet. So, we're

384
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just north of the city limits here.

385
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>> Okay.

386
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It's cornfield past [clears throat]

387
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river.

388
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>> I'm underground. Just kidding.

389
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>> Whatever the blue is

390
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>> cuz Okay. So, if that's future, then

391
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really all we have is like the Mary

392
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the town homes on 10 and then what we

393
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have around here. So, that's where I'm

394
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thinking like if based on the survey

395
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results that we had, if we wanted to

396
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reserve another section where that first

397
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number one box is, just the box

398
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to have that be um something with higher

399
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density. I don't know.

400
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>> Multi family. Yeah, that makes sense.

401
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Big apartment complex buffer on the

402
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highway. Yeah, that was kind of what I

403
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was thinking because if you work in

404
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Hudson, if you work in River Falls, if

405
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you guys are in the cities,

406
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[clears throat] you're right at that

407
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intersection. So, I don't know what

408
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anybody

409
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>> So, we could do like a single family,

410
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multifamily mix like the hatching and

411
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then kind of do a medium density.

412
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>> Yeah,

413
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that's yeah, just because of how that

414
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intersects there. But again, I don't

415
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know what others thought. And again,

416
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this is this may develop in 20 years, it

417
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may not, you know, but I mean, in 10

418
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years, you're going to be updating this

419
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plan again. So, this is out there a ways

420
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from,

421
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>> you know,

422
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but it's I mean, this is why we're

423
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talking about it because this is

424
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ultimately the growth direction. So,

425
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>> yeah. And those other neighborhoods, so

426
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up to like 640, I mean, those are kind

427
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of tucked

428
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>> back in there. And so I think if you had

429
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just in that first

430
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box along the highway where the number

431
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one circle is, it's not going to be like

432
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totally in their backyard essentially.

433
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Like there's tree coverage that's over

434
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there along. Is that cedar? No. What is

435
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it? Cedar. Uh

436
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>> you mean cedar St. Croy?

437
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>> Yeah. But there's multiple trees in

438
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there.

439
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>> But where that one is that's you're

440
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talking right in the middle of farmland.

441
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>> That's the farmland. But so then there's

442
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really a break between

443
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>> well there's about

444
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say [clears throat] 200 yards and then

445
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you go down where there used to be the

446
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apple orchard back in there and it's all

447
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trees in the backside.

448
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And same thing where that number one is

449
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if you go

450
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>> I don't know two 300 yards again and you

451
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start hitting the river part and it's

452
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got trees again.

453
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>> I think the only thing that would be

454
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tricky is if you look at the roads like

455
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so you have 640th that's going back. So,

456
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,799
I'm not sure how cuz those lots I'm

457
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guessing in the gray that are existing

458
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already.

459
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>> Those lots butt up to that. So, we'd

460
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obviously have to bring another

461
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>> road in or I'm not sure where it would

462
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go.

463
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>> I don't know what the terrain is over

464
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there, but

465
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>> it's pretty it's fairly flat.

466
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>> Small flat.

467
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>> Fairly flat.

468
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>> I think you'd have to have a drive off

469
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of this to build into here cuz I think

470
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that's private. Yeah, more than likely

471
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because of the size of this area, you'd

472
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have to have a at le a road network to

473
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get to this 40 if you're going to

474
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develop it. And then typically what you

475
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see is, you know, the higher speed

476
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traffic, you're going to have the higher

477
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density and then a lower density as you

478
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,120
go forward.

479
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,400
>> I like the idea of like where you could

480
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,600
have mixed like [clears throat] single

481
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200
family homes and then also if you have

482
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440
like row homes or like a higher density

483
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stuff and then you could have apartments

484
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basically across the street.

485
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,039
>> So those did really well in Rosemount.

486
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:15,440
Yep.

487
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,200
>> Really, really well.

488
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And uh I think man you had a bunch of

489
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those in Cottage Grove, didn't you? Row

490
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homes and then the Yeah. And those did

491
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pretty well.

492
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840
>> Rosemics exploding down there. Didn't

493
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matter what kind of home. They're just

494
00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:33,120
nuts in the last yards either. So a lot

495
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of people are. So, we're just talking

496
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just this first square would be where we

497
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have that mix of

498
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,200
>> That's thinking because then the back

499
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two squares you could break into lots

500
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which would align with the lots that are

501
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,159
already butdding up against it and make

502
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it kind of sectioned off and

503
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,440
>> no makes sense. Everybody else kind of

504
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,280
agree with that general

505
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200
>> good idea.

506
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,679
>> So,

507
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>> and then change that little piece into

508
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>> where the number two is.

509
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,400
back going to the

510
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,000
>> we'll catch that sliver here that's

511
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residential. We'll make that into

512
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,120
>> this commercial residential area.

513
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,320
>> I did I caught it. [clears throat]

514
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,559
>> So number three and we've just got

515
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mainly it's medium high density single

516
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,039
family and multif family. So it's kind

517
00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:20,480
of similar to what we'd have in number

518
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,120
one now but we've got it

519
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:27,029
all on the southeast

520
00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:30,000
side of this intersection here. Is that

521
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,600
still pretty?

522
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840
>> I mean, we we'll find out in 10 years or

523
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,159
better.

524
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,400
>> Yeah. Yep.

525
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,520
>> It's an idea for now.

526
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,960
>> Yeah.

527
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,559
>> And number four, we just have as

528
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commercial.

529
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600
We also kind of have this sliver here of

530
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,440
residential,

531
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,039
a little bit bigger sliver, but I didn't

532
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,280
know if we wanted to this would more

533
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,360
than likely be commercial or

534
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,080
>> Yeah, I think you'd make it the same as

535
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,320
the four. Okay, that's what makes sense

536
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,990
to me.

537
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,029
All right,

538
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:07,840
got another

539
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,840
>> and the one below it. So, six is the

540
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,440
industrial commercial, right?

541
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000
>> Yeah, six is just north of the

542
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,960
industrial park now,

543
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,840
which makes sense. But we have five yet

544
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,440
across the highway which we have as

545
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,279
commercial residential and then this

546
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,120
larger lot chunk. But this isn't as bad

547
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,400
of a sliver because it's connected to

548
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,559
this other residential to the north.

549
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:33,919
>> Okay.

550
00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:35,520
>> I was just kind of surprised though that

551
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,240
you aren't planning to go down 10 at all

552
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,240
basically compared to what we have

553
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,120
already.

554
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,559
>> Well, we're not quite. Yeah. I mean, we

555
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:45,919
we'll get there. If we need to go out

556
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:48,080
further, we certainly can. Well, I just

557
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,360
was kind of surprised he didn't have

558
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,120
part of that as the game plan too with

559
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,520
the industrial park right there.

560
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,200
>> Isn't that what seven and eight is?

561
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,320
>> That's the industrial park, but I'm just

562
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960
saying there's no residential bon

563
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,360
eight's residential. Seven would be

564
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,360
>> continuation of the industrial park.

565
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:06,880
>> 50.

566
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,240
>> Is that the Sears?

567
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,120
>> Yeah, that's Sears.

568
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,480
>> Sears. Yeah.

569
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,159
So, I guess to go back, are we good with

570
00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:16,400
five and six then? Other than

571
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,120
>> Yeah. Yeah.

572
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,279
>> Okay. All right.

573
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,320
So, now we're on to seven

574
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,720
north of 10 east of the industrial park.

575
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,120
>> Yep.

576
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,400
>> That's still within this. Now that now

577
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,000
we're getting into the city limits

578
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,600
and [clears throat] we have that area as

579
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,880
commercial industrial.

580
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,159
>> Mhm.

581
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,200
>> Makes sense.

582
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,840
>> Great.

583
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,640
>> Okay. And then eight is now south of 10.

584
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Now, are you are you talking about going

585
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,400
further east of what we have?

586
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,320
>> No, I just thought you would have it

587
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,760
east about equal amount that you're

588
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,120
going up to the north.

589
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,559
>> Yeah, we can do that. I mean, we

590
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:55,520
certainly

591
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,120
>> cuz I I would assume that's going to be

592
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,320
with the hills and whatever. It's kind

593
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240
of more residential type look going to

594
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240
be down there anyway,

595
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,440
>> I would think. Anyway.

596
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,679
>> Mhm. Now, yeah, the town of Oak Creek

597
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:09,679
doesn't quite have it. They have more

598
00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:12,640
>> reserved by Riley Tommy and

599
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480
>> yeah run right right up to the Raleighs

600
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,640
which is about here and then after that

601
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,559
is uh Denny uh Filkins and his brother

602
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,400
Doug's land. So it would go all the way

603
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,120
down to almost

604
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,960
>> you mean past the

605
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,320
>> past uh Mike's Riley's place and

606
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,679
>> and past the uh

607
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:32,640
gravel pit.

608
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,159
>> No, it would be just getting to the

609
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:35,840
gravel pit.

610
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,400
There's a couple houses that some of the

611
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Riley's have. They're up in the woods

612
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600
already. [clears throat]

613
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,279
>> So, how far do you want the eight to go?

614
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:44,799
I mean, do you want to go past the city

615
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,440
limits eastern boundary or

616
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,200
>> I was just thinking that just thought

617
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,120
that you would have all this going to

618
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,320
the north that you would have something

619
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,520
going to the east at the same time off

620
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000
the main drag. So, I guess it could go

621
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
all the way down to almost to the end of

622
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,640
your block

623
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,000
>> maybe to the next square.

624
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,320
>> Next square. So up to here like to this

625
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,360
line.

626
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,400
>> Yeah.

627
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,240
>> Okay.

628
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,159
So the next 40 essentially,

629
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:16,630
>> right?

630
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,960
» Cuz I mean what your got to mention

631
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,039
there that's 20 years plus.

632
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,320
>> Oh yeah.

633
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,679
>> And the one thing we didn't touch on

634
00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,120
last and actually Matt is the one that

635
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,120
made me aware of this is this possible

636
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,360
legislation about future land use

637
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,000
mapping and having every five years the

638
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,080
density that you're going to allow. And

639
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,679
uh it's still not very clear to me how

640
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:37,760
they want us to do that. So I mean we

641
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,240
still have some time before we adopt the

642
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,679
comprehensive plan. So we may be

643
00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:44,000
revisiting this before if they if they

644
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,840
do I don't I don't think they've passed

645
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,614
it yet. Um if they do end up passing it

646
00:27:49,614 --> 00:27:49,679
>> [snorts]

647
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:51,919
>> um there's going to be some difficulty

648
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,600
with it because it's confusing. But

649
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240
there there's some requirement that you

650
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,080
have to have every the density

651
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760
allocation every 5 years that you're

652
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,360
going to project for future growth and

653
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,840
it has to you have to give a density. So

654
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,039
we we are covering that with the

655
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,559
density. We don't have the 5year growth

656
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,480
projections but we we can we can add

657
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,240
that later but certainly we've got

658
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,440
enough more than enough acreage to

659
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840
handle future development in the next 20

660
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399
years plus. So

661
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,080
um so yeah we'll extend that number

662
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,640
eight.

663
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,200
>> Yeah. The only thing I'm wondering is if

664
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,200
um so right below the eight you

665
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960
obviously have a property line where if

666
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,640
you were to take just the square and

667
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,480
split it is on the

668
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120
side closer to 10 if you'd also maybe

669
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,600
want to have that be

670
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,200
multi.

671
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,799
>> Oh

672
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,480
and then your back portion would be your

673
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960
like butdding up to the park

674
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,520
>> nice single family residential homes.

675
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,480
>> Mhm. That sounds

676
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,399
>> because this is like feedback I feel

677
00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:54,080
like we just keep getting is like that

678
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440
like more apartments where we're people

679
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,640
out. So

680
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,799
>> that to me seems like it would make

681
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,600
sense. And then they'd be facing an

682
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,200
industrial commercial park. So I'm like

683
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
if you're going to buy a single family

684
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,559
home

685
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,640
>> No, that makes So you're saying like

686
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,240
half of this 40 the north half of this

687
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,399
these 240s essentially would be

688
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:18,480
>> Yeah. at least match it up with where

689
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,720
that commercial industrial part goes. So

690
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600
then that would be like multi- family

691
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,919
apartments that are facing that and then

692
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,240
the back side of it could be the single

693
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,720
family that butts up against

694
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,880
>> the the park and whatnot

695
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,600
>> this much.

696
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,880
>> Yeah.

697
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,640
>> Cuz I if I was going to do a single

698
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,679
family home, I'm like I don't want to

699
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:40,720
stare at a commercial park.

700
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,159
>> Well, you don't probably want on Highway

701
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:43,279
10 either. So,

702
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:47,440
>> so that's where I'm thinking again if we do that we stick with kind of like

703
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,279
apartments or commercial. I feel like

704
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:50,880
it'll do better.

705
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,559
>> Yeah, that makes sense. And and yeah. Um

706
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,360
so we'll we'll split that top 40 in

707
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,679
half.

708
00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,200
>> It doesn't need to be like an exact top

709
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,279
40 if we were to replat it, right? You

710
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:01,679
know.

711
00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:04,480
>> Yep. Exactly. all the we're not going to

712
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880
go exactly on property lines or some

713
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,000
>> I don't know like if you were to

714
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,399
actually take that and go like what that

715
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:13,200
density number is it might not match

716
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,799
>> right so you might actually want

717
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,000
>> no I'm just saying that's where we

718
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,640
should

719
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320
>> Okay

720
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,880
go across like

721
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,559
>> we'll find we'll find a good what makes

722
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:21,279
make sense

723
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,279
>> yeah

724
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,039
I'm guessing it's going to there

725
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,240
>> so nine where's my cursor here nine we

726
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,520
have a park

727
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,919
>> for ball fields parks, athletic fields.

728
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:34,880
>> Yeah.

729
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,760
>> That's helping the most development.

730
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,640
>> Nine is

731
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,440
>> Yeah.

732
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,559
>> What's 10? Okay.

733
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,000
>> 10 is an expansion of the school

734
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960
property. It's parks and rec

735
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:51,590
parks. No, institutional.

736
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520
» So, it's part of the school district

737
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,159
>> as a school wanting to put the running

738
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:58,399
switch 9 and 10. The nine should be

739
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:00,640
institutional, 10 should be

740
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,279
>> cuz that's your national banks park uh

741
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:06,080
fields there isn't

742
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,640
>> the fields. So it's like the field or

743
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,840
the park or the school then the fields

744
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,080
and then kind of like a parking thing.

745
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,159
>> I would love if we flip-flop those cuz

746
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:17,840
then you actually get your entrance and

747
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
>> I think that's your access in.

748
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,399
>> So the school propertyy's up here. So,

749
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:23,440
we're going to make this into

750
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,960
institutional and then this would be

751
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,039
park.

752
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,760
>> That's what I would do

753
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,919
>> cuz we've been trying to get access to

754
00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:33,120
the backside.

755
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,149
>> Okay.

756
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:38,559
» Street.

757
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,480
>> So, do we Yeah, do athletic fields are

758
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880
still where nine are. So, right.

759
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,159
>> So, we're just changing that first part

760
00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:44,480
right

761
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000
>> but then there's like a little

762
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,240
>> there's a street part eventually. So the

763
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120
net will butt up against uh

764
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:59,430
>> or not.

765
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440
» And then 11, we just have low density

766
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,200
residential. Kind of matching up what's

767
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960
there. Uh 12, same thing, single family,

768
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,440
low density residential.

769
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,000
13, single family, low low density

770
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,360
residential. And that again, as we're

771
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,640
getting away from the highways, you're

772
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,399
kind of expanding, extending off your

773
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:20,799
existing subdivisions. So 14 we have

774
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,039
parks and recre a park for parks and

775
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,440
recreation and 15 again is kind of

776
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,080
infill from existing subdivision that's

777
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,750
there.

778
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,320
16 we have commercial commercial

779
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240
businesses serving the area. I think

780
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,000
that's just as a storage sheds right

781
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,679
now. I don't know if there's other

782
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,720
developable space on there, but

783
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,919
>> there's something else.

784
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:47,519
>> Okay.

785
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,279
>> So,

786
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:53,760
19 is that the landmark

787
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240
land that was just acquired.

788
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,440
>> Yep. Yes, it is.

789
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,440
>> So, we have to have as residential cuz

790
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,919
uh the house is in there. I'm guessing

791
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:03,519
there's one house that's

792
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,679
>> 19 is just off

793
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:07,919
>> on the other side of Landmark. So that's

794
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:10,640
still where like Kim Christ owns partial

795
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,279
land.

796
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:12,000
>> Got it.

797
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,200
>> Oh, okay.

798
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,640
>> Wait, sorry. No, that you No, you're

799
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,080
right. It is that Marcus.

800
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,960
>> Yeah.

801
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,799
>> The Kim Hold on. Yeah. So, the house is

802
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,559
still there, though. So, it's got to be

803
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,000
park and recre. Uh,

804
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480
>> where's the the house?

805
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,519
>> Millie and St.

806
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,240
I didn't think we went that far. Is the

807
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,440
>> 19.

808
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,120
>> Oh, 19. Okay. 18.

809
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Okay. Kim's house is here.

810
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,919
>> Yeah,

811
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:40,640
>> Kim's house is here. So, this you I

812
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,039
would actually say that 19 would be park

813
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,080
only.

814
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,480
>> Okay.

815
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,200
>> Yeah, cuz there's

816
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,039
>> if there's no house in there.

817
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:47,840
>> There's no house

818
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600
>> because there's a lot of rules that they

819
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,159
got to play by for that landmark thing

820
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:53,760
for acquiring that land. I don't think a

821
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,039
house can go in there.

822
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,640
>> Okay. And that's all outside the city

823
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,159
limits, right? So, that's

824
00:33:58,159 --> 00:33:58,720
>> right.

825
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,159
>> Okay. Is that Matt? Any changing that to

826
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:05,200
parks make sense?

827
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,600
The only I mean most of his landmark the

828
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
one portion that's still is owned by Mr.

829
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,839
Christensen is 18 acres.

830
00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:16,240
>> I mean the one concern that I have as

831
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,159
we're looking forward to like our sewer

832
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:19,359
treatment plant

833
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:20,560
>> we have no space.

834
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,520
>> Got it. Well

835
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,359
>> I'm not saying it has to go there but

836
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,000
>> where the cows are.

837
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,119
>> Oh the bottom section that work for the

838
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,280
plant to be down in that bowl. You'd

839
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,800
want it to be as low as possible so

840
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,960
everything flow to it.

841
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,520
>> And that's in 19 right now.

842
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,440
>> This 18 acres that's just off the

843
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,879
landmark. You can kind of see the

844
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:41,280
parcel.

845
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,639
>> It's like a Is that the little section

846
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:43,200
that's like

847
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,399
>> No, just the one that's Yeah. Right.

848
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:50,069
>> Yeah. Where they just kind

849
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,520
» Yeah, you can you control the mouse

850
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:51,839
there.

851
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:53,760
>> See how this this line is the parcel

852
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,760
line right here. So this 18 acres is not

853
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,200
owned by Landmark. It's still owned by

854
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,119
Mr. Christensen.

855
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,720
Do we want to take that out of this

856
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,240
parks and wreck? Because right now we

857
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,079
have it as residential and parks which

858
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,160
if it's going to be waste water would be

859
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,000
>> I'm not Yeah, I don't want to like cause

860
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,599
any because that's not anything that's

861
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:11,119
been discussed. But I'm just saying

862
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:12,240
>> for now.

863
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,200
>> Wouldn't you remove it for now then?

864
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,720
>> Yeah, change it.

865
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:17,920
>> So,

866
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,480
>> right.

867
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,119
>> For sure.

868
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,960
>> The only thing Yeah.

869
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040
>> Didn't we get past the railroad though?

870
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,119
The little two bumpers. Didn't those go

871
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,119
with landmark though?

872
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,200
>> So it's just

873
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,550
>> on the one side of the railroad

874
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,944
» like on the river side. Didn't

875
00:35:37,944 --> 00:35:39,200
[clears throat] both of those go with

876
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,560
landmark property? I thought they did.

877
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,720
>> There's a property that landmark got

878
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:45,760
south of the railroad.

879
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,000
>> Yeah,

880
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,680
>> that little peninsula there.

881
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,079
>> Yeah, that little

882
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:50,720
>> over there.

883
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,030
Oh.

884
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,800
all the kids are coming down here

885
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,240
and fishing. That's funny.

886
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:01,520
I would almost think you'd want to

887
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,800
remove it if we're going to even think

888
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,800
about doing a wastewater treatment plant

889
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,000
there.

890
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,440
>> Yeah, I don't think it fits as a park

891
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,240
and housing. Um,

892
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,160
but I get not wanting to ruffle feathers

893
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000
at this point without having

894
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,119
>> Yeah, I don't I'm not saying that's

895
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:18,560
don't want to make it seem like that's a

896
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,240
thing that's happening or anything. I'm

897
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,720
just saying as you're exploring options

898
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,800
>> for long-term growth within the city.

899
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160
>> Can we just make it gray?

900
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,280
>> Yeah.

901
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,480
>> Just a gray area.

902
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,599
>> Gray area. Yeah. Great.

903
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,760
>> Well, cuz if we don't know, right? If

904
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,359
it's like really undeciding, we got to

905
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:36,800
come back and look at densities.

906
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,240
>> You're going to You'd probably have to

907
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,760
No matter what you do, you might be

908
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,960
wrong. So, you might you're going to

909
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,400
have to update your comp plan.

910
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,920
>> Well, why don't we just put it parks and

911
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,560
recck um institutional government?

912
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
>> Okay. Just at 18 acres.

913
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,400
>> Yeah.

914
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
>> So, not all of 19, just a little portion

915
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:54,960
of it.

916
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,160
>> Yeah. Just the southern portion.

917
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,200
>> Yeah. Okay. Where that blindness is.

918
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,000
>> And then the rest of the 19 would still

919
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,520
be parks and wreck and residential or

920
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,480
just get rid of residential.

921
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,800
>> I think it would just end because the

922
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,040
landmarks ruled for now buying that

923
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,760
property.

924
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,400
>> Okay. Yeah.

925
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,000
>> Or however they acquired it. I can't

926
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,109
remember.

927
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:16,480
» Like I know the property they own in

928
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400
May. I mean it's going to be a natural

929
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:27,190
area for

930
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,960
» okay

931
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,880
18 we were finally this is all load or

932
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,839
17

933
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:33,280
>> cemetery 18

934
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,560
>> 18 is

935
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,960
>> cemetery

936
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,720
>> institutional expansion of the cemetery

937
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,359
>> and 20 we have as institutional

938
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:49,670
expansion of the wastewater treatment

939
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,589
between

940
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,040
» what falls underneath mixed use again.

941
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,400
>> Well, it depends on how we have it in

942
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,920
the narrative. So, we have mixed use

943
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,359
which can be either commercial,

944
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:04,720
residential, it could be industrial,

945
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,040
commercial, it could be residential,

946
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,839
commercial

947
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:10,320
>> cuz we have that for I think the condos

948
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,760
are falling underneath that. Yeah. Is

949
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,079
that 21? Is that mixed use then?

950
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,960
>> Oh, for mixed use. Yeah. Um commercial.

951
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,440
So that in this case we're using it as

952
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,760
kind of mixeduse buildings. So

953
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,359
commercial on the lower level,

954
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,280
residential up above.

955
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,320
>> I'm going to throw another thing out

956
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
there then. Uh since that is potentially

957
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,200
an option is if you go back to the one

958
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,839
and um three.

959
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:34,560
>> Yep.

960
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,320
>> Is if you want to have that option like

961
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,000
in Woodbury where they have the first

962
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,359
floor that's the stores and then they

963
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:40,880
have the apartment buildings above. if

964
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,880
we'd have to have that as mixed use.

965
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,320
>> I like that actually.

966
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,119
>> Okay.

967
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,359
>> Um

968
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:50,079
>> cuz then you can do something like that.

969
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,520
We should do that,

970
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,880
>> too.

971
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,079
>> As long as there's no more Dollar

972
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,880
Generals or Dollar Storage.

973
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,839
>> Yeah, storage unit.

974
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:00,240
>> Well, have a storage unit underneath the

975
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:00,880
potential.

976
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,960
>> I think that would I don't know. They

977
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,760
would

978
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,359
>> I think that would be a

979
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:07,760
>> But I think more of a small

980
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000
>> It doesn't have to be mixed use, right?

981
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,040
Like it could just end up being

982
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680
>> or Jimmy Johns like apartment building

983
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,240
or it Yeah. Whatever whatever we decide

984
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,640
in this narrative is what we can.

985
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,920
>> So you can give yourself some

986
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,440
flexibility. I mean that's what we're

987
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,280
doing here is by having a narrative. A

988
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,040
lot of some future land use maps are

989
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,800
strictly here's your residential, here's

990
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,400
your commercial, here's your industrial,

991
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,599
and that's all they look at.

992
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,359
>> I feel like that's a prime intersection

993
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,440
to do that [clears throat] on. Um and

994
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,200
then the only other one I'm wondering

995
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,440
about maybe not. I was thinking about

996
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,839
over here on this eight.

997
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:41,440
>> I don't but I don't think so. I think

998
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,280
that one should just be multi.

999
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:43,680
>> Yeah.

1000
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,359
>> So, I would just say on that corner if

1001
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,119
we could have that be mixed use.

1002
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:47,599
>> Okay.

1003
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,359
>> I do like that too with the box that has

1004
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:53,359
the one on it right now. And then

1005
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:54,960
>> Oh, you want one to be that way or

1006
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,359
three?

1007
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:56,240
>> One and three.

1008
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,240
>> Yeah. So, we have the one box that we're

1009
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,240
going to change on the left side of the

1010
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,760
highway.

1011
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,000
>> So, if that one was mixed juice and then

1012
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
three was mixed juice. I Yeah, I think

1013
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,720
so, too.

1014
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:07,119
>> Right.

1015
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:08,160
>> You would almost have to give yourself

1016
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,760
another number then, wouldn't you?

1017
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
>> We We'll be updating the numbers.

1018
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,200
There's We've We've had some splits and

1019
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,079
some

1020
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,920
>> I'm using just locating stuff on the map

1021
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,200
right now. I'm not using it as like

1022
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,119
>> No, that's fine. But

1023
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:20,400
>> yeah, we're going to have to add some

1024
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,599
numbers, I think.

1025
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,800
>> Sorry, Josh. To go back to 19. I forgot

1026
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,800
that 20. We were looking at We ended up

1027
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,440
going with 20 as the expansion of the

1028
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,520
>> Yeah, that's just as low as 19. So maybe

1029
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,440
all of 19 should just be parks and wreck

1030
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,040
and not any single family.

1031
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,240
>> Okay.

1032
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,160
>> Yeah, we had we did remove residential,

1033
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,960
but we were adding institutional.

1034
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,480
>> Yeah, I say get rid of that since it's

1035
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,839
the thing I was thinking about is

1036
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:48,640
actually

1037
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,680
>> So get rid of that.

1038
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,720
>> Yeah. Okay.

1039
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,040
>> So just remove get rid of the non

1040
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
landmark area or keep it all the keep it

1041
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,880
this way. Exact. Just get rid of

1042
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,920
residential. Yeah,

1043
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,560
>> that's outside the city limits if

1044
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,720
they're looking at that. So in circles

1045
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:03,359
yet?

1046
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,280
>> No, this is good. That's all.

1047
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,319
>> So he's treating the plan.

1048
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:07,440
>> Why? Yeah,

1049
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,040
>> Matt saying he's thinking here as long

1050
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,800
as I can.

1051
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,280
>> Yeah,

1052
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520
>> you're saying where the number 20 is on

1053
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,119
the map. That's where you're thinking of

1054
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:16,720
the future. That's where we ended up

1055
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,480
putting unless you guys have I guess

1056
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,000
issues with that. But the idea was that

1057
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,119
it was more

1058
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,440
>> is that where the current is that where

1059
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,240
we have the

1060
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,240
>> it would buffer where the public works

1061
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,560
facility is and also where Johnson

1062
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,440
construction is.

1063
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,880
>> That'd be convenient to have it right

1064
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,040
there.

1065
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,150
>> Yeah.

1066
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,800
» Got to find my cursor.

1067
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,119
All right. So, back to 21. Oops.

1068
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,000
>> Okay. 21. 21's the

1069
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,589
>> So 21 is on on a river.

1070
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,119
» Just that's what your downtown is is

1071
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,520
typically mixeduse style. So

1072
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,720
>> commercial buildings.

1073
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,680
>> Yeah. Commercial and residential on top.

1074
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,950
>> Yeah.

1075
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,109
» Then 22

1076
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,000
up on top.

1077
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,720
>> The only other thing I'm wondering.

1078
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,000
>> Maybe not. So, next to the mixed use on

1079
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,160
the north side where it's green where

1080
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,200
there's a park,

1081
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,240
>> then there's also a

1082
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:21,200
>> what number?

1083
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,720
>> Uh, 21.

1084
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,240
>> All right.

1085
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,200
>> Sorry, I'm jumping.

1086
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,240
>> No, you're fine.

1087
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,000
>> So,

1088
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,880
go

1089
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,839
>> park here.

1090
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:34,000
>> Yeah. So, you got the park there.

1091
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,040
>> Mhm.

1092
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,839
>> If any of that needs to be

1093
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,359
mixed,

1094
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:40,640
>> that's where

1095
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,359
>> I know.

1096
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:43,839
>> Okay. I don't that's why I'm wondering

1097
00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:48,160
if for us though or if it's Anyways, I'm

1098
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,160
just wondering if that needs to be mixed

1099
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,000
use because if you look at like uh

1100
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,560
the Bill and Rosie stuff is it's mixed

1101
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,800
use.

1102
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,720
>> That's the only if it's actually park or

1103
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,400
if it's

1104
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:02,880
good.

1105
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,119
>> Thanks.

1106
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,760
>> Sorry, say that again.

1107
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
with the plans that we have been talking

1108
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,000
about for years with that if it is a

1109
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,640
park technically or if it needs to be

1110
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,720
slash blue or slashmixed use with it or

1111
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,200
>> I think parks and would fit

1112
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,920
>> as long as it's public space and open

1113
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
>> what if we want if you want to ever in

1114
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,400
the future charge for overnight docking

1115
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,920
>> transit dock as long as they're public

1116
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,359
docks so it's still

1117
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:36,480
>> cool okay

1118
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,240
>> I don't think

1119
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:42,079
Okay, that was my only question really

1120
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,079
>> cuz it it wouldn't trigger a res I'm

1121
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:45,599
assuming it wouldn't trigger reszoning

1122
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,040
so it's not

1123
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,440
>> Yeah,

1124
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,160
>> should be fine.

1125
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,640
>> Okay.

1126
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,640
>> All right. 22. We've got um this is

1127
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,480
again commercial residential opportunity

1128
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,440
for redevelopment opportunity.

1129
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,880
>> 22.

1130
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,079
>> That must be uh

1131
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,760
>> hotel. the hotel and Flanders and gas

1132
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,870
station.

1133
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,150
» We have it.

1134
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,599
» I'll be surprised if it goes

1135
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:18,079
residential.

1136
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,640
>> It's industrial and commercial.

1137
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,599
>> It is

1138
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:22,240
>> 22.

1139
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,880
>> 2022 is cuz that's where the like you

1140
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,920
said the hotel and Flanders and

1141
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,000
>> the gas station is right in that corner.

1142
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,599
>> It's like pink and brown though, isn't

1143
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:32,640
it? I don't know, mate.

1144
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,319
>> Pink and orange.

1145
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:37,599
>> It's pink and orange. And then the

1146
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,920
I don't remember. Langel's uh apartments

1147
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,079
are on the orange part of it just across

1148
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:47,990
the street.

1149
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,720
» So that's why there's a mix there.

1150
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,720
>> And we didn't do it mixed use because we

1151
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,079
had

1152
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:54,480
>> Yeah.

1153
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,400
>> So

1154
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,839
>> I don't have any questions.

1155
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:01,280
>> Number good there with 22. Number 23,

1156
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,480
just multif family

1157
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,640
residential/commercial.

1158
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560
Um, it's really more of a redevelopment

1159
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,839
opportunity, redevelopment plan

1160
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:08,800
opportunity.

1161
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,920
>> Is that where the industrial

1162
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,240
used to be?

1163
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:14,640
>> Yeah.

1164
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,640
>> In the yard and whatever that other

1165
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,720
building is.

1166
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,000
>> Caught on fire.

1167
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,960
>> Yeah.

1168
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,720
>> Haven't fixed it.

1169
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,000
>> It's been just kind of an oddity. You

1170
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,440
know, it's an industrial park in the

1171
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,599
middle of a residential area. Well, at

1172
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,200
the time it was away from everything

1173
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:31,920
when it was built,

1174
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,359
>> right? No, that makes sense. Yep.

1175
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:37,680
Um, and then we have 24 here, which I

1176
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,200
don't have on my sheet for some reason,

1177
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,280
so I don't know what it is, but I know

1178
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,680
>> that's 445 Court Street that we have

1179
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,839
been looking at for like assisted

1180
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:47,920
living.

1181
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,839
It just says the opportunity for

1182
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:52,720
>> uh that's where you tease

1183
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,480
>> or pants or whatever. What is it? The

1184
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:54,800
old

1185
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,640
>> used to be the old ventilator.

1186
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,440
>> That's where that is.

1187
00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,760
Yeah,

1188
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,400
>> it it's kind of tight to the road, but

1189
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,079
that's

1190
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:04,800
are below it.

1191
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,720
>> Oh, sorry. It's supposed to be further

1192
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,839
north,

1193
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:09,599
>> isn't it? I was like, wait a minute.

1194
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,240
>> Oh, this orange that bigger orange one.

1195
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,440
>> Yeah, it's

1196
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,520
>> it's a little big, but not terrible.

1197
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,720
>> And then isn't the blue and the So, are

1198
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,839
the government Isn't that the

1199
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:27,040
swap stuff or the water runoff stuff?

1200
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,480
institutional governmental yet is blue.

1201
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,230
>> So what should number 24 say?

1202
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,400
So, this right here should be commercial

1203
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:36,880
>> 24,

1204
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,720
>> but 24 should be technically pointing up

1205
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:40,000
to this.

1206
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240
>> There's a house on that block of 24,

1207
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,000
too, right? The smoke shop and then the

1208
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,640
house. Yeah.

1209
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,400
>> Used to be.

1210
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,119
>> Yeah.

1211
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,359
>> So, this is is that a redevelopment site

1212
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,200
then? the smoke shop and just above it

1213
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,760
used to be LB2

1214
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,440
years ago when he he's the one that

1215
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,680
built this

1216
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,599
>> and then I don't know who's there now

1217
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:09,589
but

1218
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,119
» okay there any other areas that we

1219
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,000
didn't touch on that you feel we should

1220
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
look at or consider

1221
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,839
feel like we've

1222
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:25,750
>> I think covered a lot it really good.

1223
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:32,870
» You know what else you do with that?

1224
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,560
» Good. Well, we'll we'll update that map

1225
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,880
and like I said, we may be revisiting

1226
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,920
some of the land use stuff again. Um,

1227
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,040
>> thanks, Josh.

1228
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,960
>> Yeah. Um, I guess you you have How long

1229
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,520
is your update, Matt, for the courtyard

1230
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,160
thing or the

1231
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,319
>> This is like a couple minutes. So, we'll

1232
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:52,319
just touch on I don't know that we went

1233
00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:54,000
through these last time. I think we

1234
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,040
didn't quite get to the goals,

1235
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,560
objectives, and policies for the land

1236
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,920
use chapter. Um,

1237
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,599
so this is these goals I think are kind

1238
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,280
of written more aspirationally rather

1239
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,680
than just this is our goal. Um, so the

1240
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,359
city of Prescott will promote

1241
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:11,040
supportable growth and development and

1242
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,960
develop strategies to support energy and

1243
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,319
food independence, enhance the

1244
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:17,119
environmental quality, encourage diverse

1245
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,880
housing, provide transportation options,

1246
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,720
and support a diverse economy to advance

1247
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,720
the health, safety, and well-being of

1248
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:27,589
its residents.

1249
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,839
Try objectives. Increase housing

1250
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:32,000
diversity and efficiency. Promote

1251
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,319
alternative energy options, promote

1252
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:36,400
small market farms and the local food

1253
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,880
economy, increase transportation

1254
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040
options, promote a diver diversified

1255
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,119
local economy, and create a healthy

1256
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,950
community.

1257
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,839
» Bailey, you want to get rid of the

1258
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,119
alternative energy options?

1259
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,760
>> Yeah. [clears throat]

1260
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,839
>> I mean, it's really not driven by us.

1261
00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:56,079
It's driven at a a state level a lot of

1262
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,400
the time. and then you know managed by

1263
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,400
the utility companies. The only other

1264
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,040
one is the

1265
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,359
increased transportation options. That's

1266
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,359
not I mean we looked at it a long time

1267
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,200
ago even before I think I got on

1268
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,720
council.

1269
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,760
And I think at the time we didn't move

1270
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,520
forward with it then. So it was about

1271
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,400
bringing the buses over and having a bus

1272
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,400
route.

1273
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,839
>> I mean it could it could mean you know

1274
00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:24,000
you've got your golf carts. So it could

1275
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,280
mean electric cars,

1276
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,160
>> sidewalk,

1277
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,880
>> sidewalks, trails, other walkability.

1278
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,599
>> Okay.

1279
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:32,960
>> But you're right. Yeah. Like you we're

1280
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
not looking at kind of a transit system

1281
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,160
probably anytime soon.

1282
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,400
>> Yeah.

1283
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,319
>> Well, we can't have buses for kids to go

1284
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:40,480
out of school. Yeah. Pretty hard to

1285
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,920
prove that we need buses for everybody

1286
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,319
else.

1287
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:44,480
>> Stay over on that side.

1288
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,079
>> All right. So, some of the Oh, jeez.

1289
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,920
policies. We have coordinate,

1290
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,680
collaborate, and market to residential

1291
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,280
developers, nonprofits, and government

1292
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,040
agencies to provide housing options such

1293
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,200
as senior housing, senior campus

1294
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
housing, eco village concepts, low to

1295
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,599
moderate income housing, or accessory

1296
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:02,960
housing to meet the needs of all

1297
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,829
residents.

1298
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,280
» I mean, there's so many things in there

1299
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,800
that I'm just like, it's just real

1300
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,880
wordy, you know?

1301
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,440
>> Uh, we're doing a lot of things in

1302
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,240
there. senior housing and campus

1303
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,559
housing. I don't Is that the same thing?

1304
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:20,960
Basically,

1305
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,720
>> I think like campus style housing and

1306
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,319
sometimes Yeah. I mean, you could have

1307
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:25,920
that with senior housing.

1308
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,319
>> Yeah.

1309
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:29,280
>> Um we we could break it up into to make

1310
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,280
it more palatable.

1311
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,040
>> When was this written? Just out of just

1312
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,880
pure curiosity like what year was the

1313
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,720
last time this thing was edited?

1314
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,240
>> 2014.

1315
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,559
2015.

1316
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:40,880
>> Okay.

1317
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,520
>> Was it?

1318
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,000
>> Yeah. 2015. This year we're under 10

1319
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,240
year. So

1320
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,440
>> we can we can

1321
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,200
>> build concept. I don't know where we're

1322
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,960
really trying to push that right now.

1323
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,599
That's up to developers. I mean we would

1324
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:54,960
have to either have that

1325
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,599
>> encourage it.

1326
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:57,040
>> You encourage. We don't have anything in

1327
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,000
zoning on it to say go do an eco village

1328
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,440
in these areas. I mean

1329
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,280
>> it's open for an option.

1330
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,680
>> Yeah.

1331
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,280
>> Mhm.

1332
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,630
>> Um

1333
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,880
yeah, that that to me was just kind of

1334
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,800
an odd one, but

1335
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:20,549
I can work look at rewarding it somehow.

1336
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,240
Number two, identify locations within

1337
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,839
the city for redevelopment or infill

1338
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:26,160
development for residential dwellings.

1339
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,680
And that could really be for beyond

1340
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,880
residential as well. So um I think

1341
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,030
probably residential and commercial

1342
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,400
collaborate with surrounding surrounding

1343
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,000
towns to identify and preserve prime

1344
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,760
farmland that can be used for various

1345
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,680
size agricultural enterprises to promote

1346
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,839
food self-sufficiency, security and

1347
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:47,520
entrepreneurial opportunity. So

1348
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,599
um I think in the previous plan there

1349
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,440
was a little more focus on kind of more

1350
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,280
agricultural protection and things like

1351
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
that. If that's still of interest, this

1352
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,119
one makes sense.

1353
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:57,599
>> Yes.

1354
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,119
>> Okay.

1355
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,040
Number four, calculate the amount of

1356
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,559
land that would be required to feed the

1357
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:08,961
population of the community. Yeah.

1358
00:52:08,971 --> 00:52:09,680
[clears throat]

1359
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,599
>> Number five, rev revise the city's

1360
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:12,960
parkland dedication requirements to

1361
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,480
include the land set aside for small

1362
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,839
entrepreneurial farming that can be

1363
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:19,430
rented out.

1364
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,440
» Is that redundant of three

1365
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,559
>> a little bit or no?

1366
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:26,880
>> It's a little bit more detail on that or

1367
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,160
little

1368
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,319
Um, I don't think it's redundant. I

1369
00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:32,400
think what I would probably do is maybe

1370
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,160
use a word like consider because I don't

1371
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,200
know that that's to say revise is kind

1372
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,119
of implying that you're going to do it.

1373
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:39,599
Um,

1374
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:40,319
>> yeah.

1375
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:41,040
>> So,

1376
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,720
>> kind of seems more like community

1377
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:44,720
gardening almost.

1378
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,079
>> Yeah.

1379
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:47,440
>> For five that is.

1380
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,549
>> Yep. Agreed.

1381
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,319
» I mean I mean I don't think it needs to

1382
00:52:54,319 --> 00:52:55,920
change. You think you can leave it if

1383
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,920
people if we have a park area where

1384
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,640
someone's like, "Hey, can we put in some

1385
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,240
plants in the neighborhood?" wants to

1386
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,920
manage it.

1387
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,069
>> Sure.

1388
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:08,720
» Manage it [clears throat]

1389
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,240
>> at the food shelf.

1390
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:11,359
>> Yeah.

1391
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:12,720
>> There's more wheats than there was food

1392
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:12,960
there.

1393
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,160
>> Didn't really set it up.

1394
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:19,839
>> Yeah. I think it this should be more passive because it talks about, you

1395
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:22,960
know, um requirements to include land

1396
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,800
set aside. I mean, I think you could

1397
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,240
have options for that if that's part of

1398
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,000
your parkland dedication to do like a

1399
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
community garden or something, but to

1400
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,359
mandate it, I don't think is what you

1401
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:32,000
want to do.

1402
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640
>> Uh, yeah. Consider.

1403
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,119
>> Yeah.

1404
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,079
>> Number six, require planning any the

1405
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:41,200
planning and evaluation of all

1406
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,440
transportation options when designing

1407
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,119
street reconstruction projects and

1408
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:48,790
building new streets.

1409
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,280
» Um,

1410
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,359
>> hey, we just did number seven.

1411
00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:53,200
Promote land use mixed land use patterns

1412
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,920
that do not conflict with promote mixed

1413
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,920
land use. Yeah, we are doing that. Um

1414
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,599
mixed land use patterns that do not

1415
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,119
create land use conflicts, complent

1416
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,040
adjacent uses and promote community

1417
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:09,990
wellness.

1418
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,359
I guess in um coordinate with utility

1419
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:15,119
area utility providers to plan and

1420
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:16,880
implement local renewable energy systems

1421
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,280
and micro grids for emergency services

1422
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,440
which are then broadened to

1423
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,040
neighborhoods, commercial and industrial

1424
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,710
areas of the city.

1425
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:34,950
» I mean I'm mixing like emergency with

1426
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,720
» I mean we're not really coordinating

1427
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,280
with them. I mean, they kind of come and

1428
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,880
tell us, right, if we're going to do

1429
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,280
development, we're like, "Hey, Excel."

1430
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,559
They're like, "Hey, we have this

1431
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,920
option." But again, I mean, a lot of

1432
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,680
this utility stuff, I feel like you can

1433
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,960
do things at your local home. If you

1434
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,319
want to throw some solar panels on your

1435
00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:53,520
roof, go for it.

1436
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,640
>> Mhm. But when you're talking major

1437
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,960
utility, it's a little hard for us to

1438
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,559
>> Well, it's only if the city would have

1439
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:07,119
their own solar panel farm someplace.

1440
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,920
That's pretty much what they're saying.

1441
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,599
>> Not saying we should, but I'm saying

1442
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,200
that's what they're talking here.

1443
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,800
>> Bad bad idea.

1444
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,599
>> Do you want to get rid of this one?

1445
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:19,200
>> I think so.

1446
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,040
>> I think it's a little more It's There's

1447
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,359
It's not very clear. So I don't know

1448
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:26,720
what we would do with that if

1449
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,319
>> I mean the only thing that's coming into

1450
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:29,839
my mind the only thing that stuck out to

1451
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:32,000
me at all was the micro grids for

1452
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,319
emergency services. It's not micro grids

1453
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:36,319
though. It's basically an emergency

1454
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:37,839
communication but that's pretty much

1455
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:40,240
done through the state now I feel like.

1456
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,599
Um but there is like local stuff like

1457
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,160
when the Ohio issue happened and the

1458
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,240
train derailed people didn't know

1459
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:49,839
>> right away to shelter in place and

1460
00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:51,280
there's stuff like that. We do run

1461
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,760
hazmat on that railroad. That has been

1462
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,079
my thing that I've just been like

1463
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:57,680
focused on. So, we sit on the emergency

1464
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,920
management committee. So, I don't think

1465
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,160
that's the right way to do that one.

1466
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:02,559
>> Yeah.

1467
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:06,000
>> But like I think there should be some

1468
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,480
level of communication, but I don't

1469
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,400
think it's here.

1470
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:10,799
>> It's probably

1471
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:12,640
>> I don't think it's a micro grid.

1472
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,000
>> Yeah, probably either in the next

1473
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,359
chapter or utilities and community

1474
00:56:15,359 --> 00:56:16,400
facilities.

1475
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,319
>> Issue something on a ham radio if you

1476
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:22,150
are ham radio certified.

1477
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,309
Otherwise, I

1478
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:27,839
» we'll clear we'll clean it up a little

1479
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:29,440
bit and then we probably can move it to

1480
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,400
a different chapter.

1481
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,839
Support mixeduse development in the

1482
00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:35,520
downtown to create a mix of residential

1483
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,200
and commercial businesses in a safe

1484
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,359
walkable setting.

1485
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:40,799
Consult the city's wildhead protection

1486
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:42,400
ordinance when evaluating redevelopment

1487
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,680
and future development projects to

1488
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,280
ensure the protection of the city's

1489
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,440
aquafer

1490
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,200
and support the development of eco and

1491
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,280
agro tourism capacity and business

1492
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
services.

1493
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,319
Two more, I guess. Um,

1494
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:57,440
>> you want to leave that in there for

1495
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,240
grants?

1496
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:01,440
>> Yeah. Mhm. Develop metrics to track the

1497
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,040
city self-sufficiency objectives.

1498
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,520
>> What?

1499
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,319
>> Delete it.

1500
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:07,280
>> Huh? Delete it.

1501
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,200
>> Delete it. We're not

1502
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,440
What are do we track it today? Are we

1503
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:11,920
making

1504
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,839
>> Well, I think in the community utilities

1505
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,119
and community facilities, we have

1506
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:16,640
something similar that talks about kind

1507
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,520
of uh tracking different, you know,

1508
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,920
equipment usage and maintenance things

1509
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
and other I forget what we called it,

1510
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,119
but we did

1511
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,680
>> this is like self-sufficiency.

1512
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,040
>> Yeah. I don't know if it really applies

1513
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:29,920
to land use.

1514
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,720
>> No, I would agree. So I will get rid of

1515
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,119
that one and consider developing a

1516
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,640
statutory redevelopment plan for the

1517
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,079
industrial area between Hope Street,

1518
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:39,599
Canton Street, Henry Street, and St.

1519
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:42,480
Croy Street. So that's I think number 23

1520
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,319
that we were looking at.

1521
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:49,990
>> So

1522
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,359
very good. So we will not get to the

1523
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:54,960
intergovernmental cooperation, but you

1524
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,200
have that. Um I don't know if we'll

1525
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,559
update it, but we'll probably resend it

1526
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:02,319
out for January's meeting.

1527
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:03,680
be a good one to look at.

1528
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,079
>> What's that?

1529
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:05,839
>> It's the intergovernmental one. So, like

1530
00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:08,079
working with those that would be a good

1531
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:09,040
one to look at.

1532
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,920
>> Yeah, we'll talk about that next time.

1533
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,440
>> Okay. All right. Thanks, Josh.

1534
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,760
>> Thank you very much.

1535
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,720
>> Okay. Next item is other business update

1536
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,559
on assisted living facility at 445 Court

1537
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:24,079
Street.

1538
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:26,640
>> So, we had a submission for the 445

1539
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,319
Court Street. We approved this concept

1540
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,960
plan. I think it was

1541
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,559
September.

1542
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,160
Sorry, my dates are but um the

1543
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,520
developers come forward and said they

1544
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:38,799
want to make some changes specifically

1545
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:42,079
to parking. Um so

1546
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,040
it's looking like the initial um review

1547
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,359
will come to plan commission next month.

1548
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:48,960
One thing that we have been discussing

1549
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,839
with our city attorney is he is

1550
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:54,000
recommending that all PUDs go forward

1551
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,440
going forward should have a public

1552
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,079
hearing. So basically the next meeting

1553
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,079
we'd have you review it and approve a

1554
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:03,119
public hearing assuming everything is to

1555
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:05,599
your standards and then February would

1556
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,599
be the public hearing for approval for

1557
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,240
that for consideration. So we'd be

1558
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,160
bringing it to review for next month and

1559
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,160
then February bring it to public

1560
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:14,559
hearing.

1561
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:15,760
>> You want to cut down the number of

1562
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,119
parking spots.

1563
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:17,599
>> What's that?

1564
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:18,799
>> They want to cut down the number of

1565
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:20,960
parking spots. uh they're looking at uh

1566
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,640
the revisions is putting some of the

1567
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,640
basement level turning that into

1568
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,960
actually like a underground parking.

1569
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,520
>> So that's something we had discussed um

1570
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,839
as well as part of the concept plan. So

1571
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:33,359
>> okay.

1572
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:35,119
>> So that would cut cut down their number

1573
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,119
of units then too, wouldn't it?

1574
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:38,961
>> No, there wouldn't be any

1575
00:59:38,961 --> 00:59:39,200
[clears throat] Oh,

1576
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,480
>> there wasn't any in basement. Oh, okay.

1577
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,400
It be it would be just that was just for

1578
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,359
like storage and for their kitchen and

1579
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:46,240
all that stuff.

1580
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,150
>> Okay.

1581
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,280
Then next meeting is Monday,

1582
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,119
January 5th at 6 o'clock. Any other

1583
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:58,000
business? Motion

1584
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,680
>> to second.

1585
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,079
>> Second.

1586
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,319
>> A motion second to adjurnn. All in favor

1587
01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:08,040
say I. Opposed. Okay, we're turn