1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the meeting of Council of March 18. It is 7 p.m. 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:24,000 I'll call the meeting to order. Council, you've seen the agenda, of course. I note, Councillor McLACHLAN is online virtually 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:36,000 with us and any concerns or conflicts, not in the amendments or on the agenda. Not motion to adopt, please. 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:44,000 And seconded, all in favor. We are adopted. Without further ado, we'll go to page 4. 5 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:53,000 And this is the swerney lands, also known as Silverstone Heights public hearing report. 6 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000 And I guess we'll turn it over to you, Mr. Allen, acting chief administrative officer, Allen. 7 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Thank you. Thank you for your shift. 8 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,000 As described in the report, the intent here is to separate the event of the public hearing and the correspondence leading up to it 9 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 from the actual decision on how to proceed with the official community plan. 10 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It's a large volume of detail for both of those reports. And so we wanted to present this to council for review for receipt 11 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:27,000 and officially close the engagement process, a period of this application pursuant to council policy. 12 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,000 It's best practice for us to do it this way, particularly the large application. 13 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,000 We're still waiting on information from the applicants in terms of the specific phasing that we need to describe in the upcoming report. 14 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:48,000 So the timeline is on them, but there are aware of having constraints generally in terms of having left in this term, time left or time spent after public hearing can be vulnerable. 15 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:55,000 But nonetheless, we wanted to present this. So I'm happy to answer any of the questions that you may have arising from public hearing. 16 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:02,000 We can talk about that tonight. If you like, but the intent here is not to make a decision on how to proceed with the development application. 17 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:14,000 It's to receive the information in front of you. And then you have it and you'll have some time between also now and when we do ask for a decision at some point this spring to continue to digest the information. 18 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Thank you. 19 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Thank you. 20 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Yeah, that was sort of the question I had that we can't be discussing this at this point and we certainly don't want to discuss new information. 21 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,000 So council. 22 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Anybody got questions or concerns? 23 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 I did want to ask one thing in respect to recommendation two. 24 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:46,000 I thought we concluded as part of the process we conclude the public hearing at the end of the public hearing. 25 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:53,000 So I wasn't clear why we have the second recommendation. 26 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 I'll be doing assist. 27 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,000 We council adopted a policy approximately four years ago, which is referred to in that recommendation. 28 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 And it's based on just the formality of concluding the process. 29 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 You are correct at the close of public hearing. 30 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 We cannot receive any more documentation. Council cannot receive any further delegation or input. 31 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,000 But having this officially as council resolution allows the engagement process for an OCP or an OCP amendment to be opened up by a council 32 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:31,000 resolution and close by council resolution and just providing need parameters around it. 33 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Okay, we're in something new. 34 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Thank you. 35 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Other comments council. 36 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Council. 37 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 I'm going to log on please. 38 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 You're muted. 39 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Are we heard from council rings here? 40 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 I'm part of me yes. 41 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Just moments before meeting or receiving the email indicating you couldn't make it. 42 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Thank you. 43 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Thank you. 44 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Thank you. 45 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Thank you. 46 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Thank you. 47 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Thank you. 48 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 I'm just wondering for clarification. 49 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:10,000 That means the OCP amendment here will not be discussed in our future discussions of the OCP. 50 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 It's basically wrapped up here. 51 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:20,000 So the issues that are not addressed currently in this area of OCP will be closed. 52 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Is that the point? 53 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 I'll certainly let Mr. Ellen add to it. 54 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 But no, that's certainly that's not my understanding. 55 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 This is just the package of public. 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 The information that we've received from the public engagement. 57 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 It stops. 58 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Correct. 59 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 This is a submission of the entire package and you've been able to ask questions about 60 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 of this evening or the next time the report comes through what we're doing. 61 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Here's the information package. 62 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,000 We're submitting it to council formally and closing off that process. 63 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:56,000 But you can ask questions this evening or when we bring the detailed technical report about how to proceed 64 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 forward on the application. 65 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 So there are there are opportunities. 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 We'll talk about asking questions on the information that we do have and staff not providing new information 67 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 or applicants or public as well as just. 68 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Here's our, here's our scope of information. 69 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:18,000 If I compare phrase so if we don't understand something, I don't know, there's a word in here that we don't understand. 70 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,000 That's okay. 71 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:26,000 We can't be moving forward with the substantive discussion of the merits of this application. 72 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Not this evening because we'll write a proper report when it's ready. 73 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Yeah. 74 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Thank you. 75 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Councilor Bel? 76 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Is that an answer to your question? 77 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Councilor Bel? 78 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Yes. 79 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Through the trial. 80 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Make a motion. 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 To move recommendations. 82 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Thank you. 83 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Your second. 84 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Second. 85 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Any other questions? 86 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Please. 87 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Thank you. 88 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Just a quick one. 89 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Recognizing we're not really digging into the technical aspects of moving. 90 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Moving forward here, but. 91 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Are there components of this feedback that we did collect that staff know the applicant will be trying to find a way to incorporate or. 92 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Think, yeah, just incorporate into the next time we see the proposal. 93 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 I can say the applicant will have this entire package. 94 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,000 We touched base that even though it's been six weeks or so we have not yet. 95 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:35,000 That's probably heard back from them, so it's walls of their court, but they will have this information and just to be extra sure we'll send this report again as a package to them. 96 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Okay. 97 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Please. 98 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Thank you. 99 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Councilor McGillacum. 100 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Thanks. 101 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Through the chair. 102 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:52,000 I just wanted to get a little clarification on page 7 of 28 where it talks about the covenant for a master development. 103 00:06:52,000 --> 00:07:00,000 The master development agreement was placed on title on in 2021 implementation of the covenant was deferred. 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 For the second phase of silverstone height residential. 105 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Development and again for telesilverstone facility in 2020. 106 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,000 So I'm just wondering what was that process for deferment? 107 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Is there anything written? 108 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Was there any public acknowledgement of it being deferred? 109 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Because on the surface of it it looks like the covenant. 110 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Like so many covenants says these are the rules of the covenant. 111 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And there's no other paperwork or anything to back up any changes. 112 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,000 So I'm just wondering do you a little clarification on that if I could please. 113 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Thank you. 114 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 You worship I will attempt, but admittedly some of it will be speculation. 115 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,000 The first time it was prior to any of the current planning staff working here. 116 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,000 So I was a state of flux for a period of time when the director of finance was also acting as a director of planning. 117 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 And there were no flatters here in the district. 118 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000 So each other than a planning technician for a period of time. 119 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:06,000 So the the first of the world might have been then the second deferred dating back to roughly 2019 or 2020. 120 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,000 When cancelled decided it was within the public interest to move forward with the trellis silverstone care facility. 121 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000 The covenant entitled there was a decision made at the council table that they wish to proceed with that application. 122 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Thank you. 123 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Thank you. 124 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Thank you. 125 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Um. 126 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 That's what got. 127 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Yeah, thank you. 128 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,000 It is a little gray, but I think I mean the facts are what they are. 129 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Things have happened as they've happened. 130 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 We can't really change that. 131 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:47,000 But I think it, you know, it is a little bit confusing for from a planning point of view and from the public point of view about the public interest here. 132 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:54,000 But if the council actually made a resolution or a motion to move ahead with trellis. 133 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Obviously there was some agreement with the developer and the municipality to do so. 134 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 So I guess that's where it sets things. 135 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 We're good. Thank you. 136 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Anything else, council? 137 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 I'll call the question all in favor. 138 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 I'm sorry. 139 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Councilor McDonald. 140 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 You're in favor? 141 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Favorite? 142 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Go ahead. 143 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Yep. 144 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Yep. 145 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Okay. Motion carries. 146 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Also then can go to item 5.2 starting on 130, page 130. 147 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,000 And this is the DVP for 5570 saltgrass lane. 148 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:37,000 I guess we have Mr. Baker in virtual land. 149 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Let's see, there he is. 150 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Welcome. 151 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Thank you. 152 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Thank you. 153 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Thank you. 154 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Mr. Baker. 155 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Is there. 156 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Stuff you want to. 157 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 I later. 158 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Nothing beyond. 159 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 What's in the report? 160 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Just that. 161 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 The applicants are asking for a very. 162 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Very soon. 163 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 A lot for a second. 164 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Freestanding sign. 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 A hearted saltgrass lane. 166 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Okay. 167 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Thank you. 168 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Council. 169 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Is. 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Councilor. 171 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Tempered. 172 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Thanks through through the chair. 173 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Just a question on the sign itself. 174 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 So it's. 175 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 It's backlit. 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 It's an LED sign. 177 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Is that true? 178 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 It's a lit sign. 179 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Is that. 180 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 You're understanding? 181 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Hello. 182 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Good evening. 183 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Yeah. 184 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Sorry for giving me. 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 I'm just. 186 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I'm just. 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,000 I'm just checking here. 188 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 I may have to confirm. 189 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 But I believe it may be. 190 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Yes. 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Yes. 192 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 It would be. 193 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Okay. 194 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 And does it face? 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 I guess it doesn't face. 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 The housing that it faces is the side of the house over an edge water. 197 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 It's no one's going to be staring straight into a sign. 198 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Which else. 199 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,000 You talking about the one that they're asking for the variance of. 200 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Okay. 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 XB ID2. 202 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 ID3. 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,000 So that sign is perpendicular to the streets. 204 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 So the lighting would be facing up and down. 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Saltgrass lane. 206 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Not across. 207 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Okay. 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Saltgrass lane. 209 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Great. 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Thank you. 211 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Okay. 212 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Okay. 213 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Absolutely. 214 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 My God. 215 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Please. 216 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Yes. 217 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Thank you to the chair. 218 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 I'm just wondering. 219 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Now I don't think they're going head with the full development. 220 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Only the the front part. 221 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,000 So I'm just wondering if they need to have signage that extensive or whether we could. 222 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Put it off till they actually need it when the second part of the development starts. 223 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Because to me, it's going to be like a half-filled site with all the signage pointing to things that probably are going to be there for 10 years. 224 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 So I'm just a little concerned about that. 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Thanks. 226 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Okay. 227 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Perhaps. 228 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Is there any indication that there is a phase two at any stage in the plans? 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Mr. Allen. 230 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 The original proposal included a phase two. 231 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,000 But that's been deferred due to the increased costs of the development of the site in particular. 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 The site development. 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,000 But this particular sign refers to the restaurants, sweets, and events face. 234 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 I'm parking in the mortgage, which are a part of the present proposal. 235 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Okay. 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Sorry. 237 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Thanks. 238 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 The Council of McLaughlin. 239 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 They see your hand up, is it? 240 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Yep. 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Okay. 242 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Council. 243 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 We have a recommendation in front of us. 244 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Anybody want to pick it up? 245 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Sorry. 246 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 That's a room? 247 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,000 No. 248 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:59,000 I will move the recommendation. 249 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Page 130? 250 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Yes. 251 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Ms. McLaughlin. 252 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Thank you. 253 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Great. 254 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000 The DBP 202601 be approved. 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Seconded Councillor Bell. 256 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Hey. 257 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 All in favor? 258 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Very opposed? 259 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Very. 260 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Councillor McLaughlin. 261 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Yeah. 262 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 There it is. 263 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Good. 264 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Thank you. 265 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Your hand is down again. 266 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Oops. 267 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Okay. 268 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 You're muted. 269 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Council. 270 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 McLaughlin. 271 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 I think you're saying you're okay. 272 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Yeah. 273 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 You're in favor. 274 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Okay. 275 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:46,000 So without further ado, we go to 5.3 on 152. 276 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 I want to talk about your appointment. 277 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Ms. Paulson. 278 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Go ahead, please. 279 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Councillor Tom. 280 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Thank you. 281 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Realizing that, you know, we're not going to try and choose somebody else to be the chief election officer here. 282 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 So on the flight. 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 I'm going to move the recommendation as it appears on page 152. 284 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Hey. 285 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 And I have a seconder from Councillor Shepherd. 286 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 It's interesting. 287 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I had occurred to me and I wanted to flag this perhaps for staff to think about it. 288 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 It was just, I don't know, driving over today. 289 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:32,000 There's so many issues in the last couple of years around balladding and voting as any consideration being given to swapping chief election officers from one municipality to another. 290 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:44,000 You know, I can see, you know, it's unusual in, I think, election VC and election Canada that, you know, it's somebody quite independent. 291 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 So, that was one idea. 292 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 It was swap with Gibson and they swap with us. 293 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Oh, I'm not proposing any amendments, but I'm proposing, you know, the staff take that away and think about it. 294 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Thank you. 295 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Anything, any other, rules of wisdom? A, a call of vote, or sorry, I didn't get a, yes, I did get a motion. All in favor? 296 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:34,000 All right, then we can go to 5.2. Nope, how about we go to 6.1. That's what everybody's here for. 297 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:43,000 For, um, it's awesome. Anything, any, any, itifications? 298 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Excuse me, and I know I believe the report summarizes the substantial changes that are recommended for the bylaw. 299 00:15:51,000 --> 00:16:00,000 And then we've included a track changes version of the consolidation just so that it's easy for everybody to see exactly where those changes are made. 300 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:09,000 The, the track changes document does look a little bit messy, but I find that's the easiest way to to see exactly for for the best transparency. 301 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,000 And then, of course, we have the actual amendment bylaw attached as well for council's consideration. 302 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 And we're happy to answer any questions. 303 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Thank you. 304 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:29,000 With the proposal to cancel the 7th and 14th meetings. 305 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:40,000 I'm wondering if we should, you know, tentatively schedule a council meeting for the end of September because we'll have a council meeting on the second of September. 306 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:46,000 And then a committee of the whole on the night and then we're at UBCM for what would have been the second council meeting. 307 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 And then we've got another committee of the whole on the 23rd. 308 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,000 So our last ability to actually make decisions will be September 2nd. 309 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:02,000 And I'm wondering if it'd be for us to schedule a one for like the 29th of September just, you know, it's not our usual day. 310 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 But the 30th being a statutory holiday. 311 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Curious to know what other councilor thoughts are on it. 312 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Okay, and I had something similar. 313 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 I was curious. 314 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 I understand cancelling the 14th. 315 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,000 But what, why are you recommending we cancelled the 7th of the ties in it? 316 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 The 7th being an advanced voting day. 317 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,000 We've traditionally always held advanced voting opportunities in the council chambers room here. 318 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:37,000 So any of the polling hours are open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. 319 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:43,000 And the 10 days ahead is consistent with Gibson's and elsewhere. 320 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 The first advanced voting day is a requirement in the legislation. 321 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 The local government act. 322 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,000 The second advanced voting day is optional and can be determined by our by law. 323 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 So it is that one that's you. 324 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Okay. 325 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 All right, council. 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Because I didn't thought of the 30 of the 29th. 327 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 The 29th. 328 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Please. 329 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Yeah. 330 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Thank you. 331 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 I mean Tuesday is not our usual day, which would be the 29th. 332 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,000 The other option would be to make the 23rd of council meeting instead of a committee to hold. 333 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Just so that we can close off any decisions that need to be processed. 334 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Because otherwise with the August break before that September 2nd meeting. 335 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And nothing at like that's going to be a monster of a meeting. 336 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 An advanced full needs to be in this room. 337 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Because I had question that going wrong. 338 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 No, we just keep the 7th. 339 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,000 It's our final meeting. 340 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Please. 341 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,000 No, we could certainly coordinate it in a different location. 342 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Excuse me. 343 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 It counts over. 344 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 What are your thoughts? 345 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 No, I'm through Shepherd. 346 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 You know, you end up earlier. 347 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:06,000 I hadn't thought about that about the lack of meetings earlier on what the implication was. 348 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I mean, if it isn't a problem holding the advanced voting in another location. 349 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000 I'm happy to agree to that. 350 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 I had a separate question over the hours. 351 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I was going through the the the marked up version of the document. 352 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 And notice that the hours of the advanced polling were deleted. 353 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000 The EDM, the PM, and wondered why that was so. 354 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Thanks. 355 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Please. 356 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Those hours are specified in the local government act. 357 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 So it's not really necessary for us to include them in the bylaw. 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,000 There are several other sections that were duplicated in the local government act that we had removed. 359 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:57,000 And instead we have inserted some parameters that help with the ballot counting and some of the different factors that. 360 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Can be prescribed by the chief election officer or through the bylaw rather than just repeating the local government act sections. 361 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Please. 362 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,000 So I threw the chair just to follow up to that as I think about this changing of the meeting dates. 363 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:21,000 You know, if you're holding an advanced polling day, it's people are going to assume it's going to be a municipal hall. 364 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,000 So I had actually I'm going to bounce back and forth here and say, no, I think we should. 365 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Keep the date as suggested and add the extra meeting date in September as counselor to all suggested. 366 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Thank you. 367 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 You're welcome. 368 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Yeah, I would just agree with that. 369 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 I think this is where people have been coming for years to vote. 370 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:50,000 So I'm in support of adding in September 29th. 371 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 And that's Tuesday. 372 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 My right. 373 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Yeah. 374 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 There's a 30 of this is a stat. 375 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Am I right? 376 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Yeah. 377 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Angled web. 378 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,000 We've. 379 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:27,000 How many, I mean, how many people off typically vote in the advanced fall and to counselor Sheppard's point if it's. 380 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 You know, we moved it upstairs. 381 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 People coming here wouldn't told you're leaving. 382 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 You know, to go cross town. 383 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,000 I don't have the exact numbers or even a very good rough estimate in my head. 384 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,000 But I do recall it being fairly substantial for each day. 385 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 I want to say it in the range of four to five hundred voters. 386 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 In total. 387 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Anyways, okay. 388 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 I think it could be 400 each. 389 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 I'm not sure. 390 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000 I'd have to get back to you on that. 391 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 But it's it would be a lot of people to talk through this. 392 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Yeah. 393 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:09,000 We could we could meet out in the playground. 394 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000 I also, I mean, your hands. 395 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000 A motion. 396 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Yeah. 397 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000 I'm going to move the recommendations as they're presented. 398 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 And I'm going to add a recommendation. 399 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:28,000 That a regular counsel meeting be scheduled for September 29. 400 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Okay. 401 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Seconded. 402 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,000 So it's a one comprehensive motion one two and a new three. 403 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Okay. 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Can we go back to the report then? 405 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Just there are other questions. 406 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Folks about the details. 407 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 We've got new sign by laws. 408 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 And of course. 409 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 So anything. 410 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 I mean, I see that. 411 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 And I did want to ask when we say, for example, on page 156. 412 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Signs are prohibited on district facilities. 413 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 Structures parks and playing fields. 414 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Those are our parks and playing fields. 415 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 That'd be correct. 416 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 So school district parks are available still. 417 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000 That's correct. 418 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:20,000 We can only require signage on related to our property or municipal grounds. 419 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Whereas the school district would be responsible for their own rules around signage on their lands. 420 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Thank you. 421 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Yeah. 422 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 We administer their election. 423 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 All right. 424 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000 I don't think I have anything else. 425 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Councils. 426 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Oh, yeah. 427 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 It's not just another thought. 428 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Have you given any thought to some sort of, I don't know, 429 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,000 an event where we ask the school kids to come and see what it's like to vote. 430 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 I'm kind between the first. 431 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,000 So we've got the systems in place. 432 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,000 We hadn't started considering any advanced events like that. 433 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,000 However, we are still in the process of our sort of engagement process planning for that. 434 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 So we could certainly take it under consideration. 435 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Yep. 436 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 I think that would be worthwhile. 437 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Some older kids might like to show up and see how it's done. 438 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Great. 439 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Okay. 440 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Council. 441 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000 We've got the motion. 442 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 One, two, and the new three. 443 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Okay. 444 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Call the question. 445 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 All in favor. 446 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Period. 447 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Very good. 448 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Council. 449 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 We can then go to the minutes. 450 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000 By law. 451 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Thank you. 452 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 172. 453 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:05,000 So this is a little more complex. 454 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:11,000 So we've got to vote on the by law and one and yes. 455 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 We can and be. 456 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,000 It's also, yeah, we're not voting on the third item. 457 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 It's just a stand-alone. 458 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000 The new meeting date. 459 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Yeah. 460 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Okay. 461 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 So this is before us for three readings. 462 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Council. 463 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 You can do them all at once. 464 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Or we. 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 That's a third for. 466 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000 One. 467 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 A first for one, two, and three. 468 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000 And a second for one. 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Two and three. 470 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Okay. 471 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Anybody got concerns. 472 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Not all in favor. 473 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Period. 474 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,000 We're like. 475 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Now we can go to the minutes. 476 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 That right. 477 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:05,000 And I'm tracked. 478 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 So the meeting of March 4th. 479 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Also meeting. 480 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 That's over shepherd. 481 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Yeah. 482 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Move a adoption of the minutes. 483 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Eight. 484 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Second. 485 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Great. 486 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 All in favor. 487 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 The adoption. 488 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Thank you. 489 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Councilor McLaughlin. 490 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 It's okay if you wish. 491 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 You can put your hand up. 492 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 I can. 493 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 I can see it. 494 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Okay. 495 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Then we'll go to the council meeting. 496 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 March 11th. 497 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 And. 498 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Three. 499 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Forward. 500 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Motion. 501 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Seconded. 502 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 All in favor. 503 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Period. 504 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Committee of the whole. 505 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:04,000 March 11th. 506 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Yeah. 507 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Move to endorse. 508 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Thank you. 509 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Seconded. 510 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 All in favor. 511 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And. 512 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,000 I'm going to come back to. 513 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Page 192. 514 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Your matters. 515 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 I'm. 516 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 I'm. 517 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000 If we'll come back now. 518 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 So could we could. 519 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000 I see clarification. 520 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Page 192. 521 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Recommendation six. 522 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 References. 523 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Staff be directed to a symbol. 524 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Councilor. 525 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Immuneration. 526 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Task force. 527 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 How is that. 528 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:49,000 How was that, what was done the last time, and assume you anticipating doing it the same? 529 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Thank you for the question. 530 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,000 So when we did the council room iteration task for us last time, public notice find out. 531 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:05,000 So people could apply in and then staff reviewed the applicants and then we created task for us from there. 532 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:14,000 So I lead the task for us in that I provide meeting times and any resources they might need, but then they just moderate the conversation themselves. 533 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:20,000 So after we've chosen the folks that will be part of the independent task force, nobody else knows about that. 534 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,000 And then they come up with a report and then that report is presented to council. 535 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Right. So we don't approve who's on that task force? 536 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Nope. I don't believe the previous council even knows who's the last task force. 537 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 But you do, I mean. 538 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 I do, and I mean yes. 539 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000 No, that will be possible. 540 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 The council is happy that I can provide that information now. 541 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000 If you were to ask or if you'd like them to report it more than happy to share that at that time. 542 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Yeah. 543 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Thank you. 544 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Hey. 545 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Hey council, anything else? 546 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Matters arising? 547 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000 No. 548 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,000 We'll go to the regional district representatives and we'll ask council rings here for the Wilson report. 549 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Well, conveniently, there hasn't been any regional district meetings since our last council meeting because everyone was away at LGLA last week. 550 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,000 So meetings last week scheduled tomorrow. 551 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,000 However, I did listen into a webinar. 552 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:33,000 E-com was doing a webinar with all the regional districts, chairs and CIOs and emergency planning staff. 553 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000 We have talking about next-gen 911. 554 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Some of the service delays in rolling that out. 555 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,000 And then some possible upcoming changes to service standards. 556 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:58,000 E-com has a higher quality, a higher level of service standard for answer times than apparently like the rest of the country has. 557 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 And so... 558 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,720 They've promised to actually do some proper engagement in July, because there was some frustration raised 559 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:16,000 both in the call and, you know, previously, where e-contents to just dictate what it's going 560 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:23,120 to be in local governments that are kind of tired of that. That's that's the regional district report. 561 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:33,120 I have a moment, just a roll straight down the council. The only thing I've got for council in the last two weeks, planning has started for candidate day. 562 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:43,120 So, you know, early plans are sounding very similar to previous years, you know, parade, packet park, just bringing people downtown. 563 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:50,120 There has, there was some talk about trying to wrap in the 40th anniversary of the district this year. 564 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:58,120 It's also the 30th anniversary of the car club this year. So, they're looking to celebrate as much as they can as well. 565 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:07,120 Last year, there was some conflicts in the upper field between vendors, vendor parking, fire department, and the car club. 566 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:17,120 So, the car club didn't get to have as much of a presence as they wanted. So, hopefully starting early, we can make sure that there's proper room for everybody up there. 567 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:28,120 And I know that John Burns who coordinates the market is going to be talking about a couple of other places for vendor parking that aren't the upper field. 568 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,120 So, that the upper field can be used more for programming. 569 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,120 That's really all I got. Thank you. 570 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Thank you. Councilor Bell, go to you and then Councilor McDonald. 571 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:46,120 I think the one thing, just to report that the community investment program, we have completed our meeting 572 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,120 in terms of determining who will be receiving grant grants this year. 573 00:31:52,120 --> 00:32:01,120 A rigorous process, a great committee, and they put a lot of time and effort into it and both up the meeting and prior to that. 574 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:10,120 One of the most difficult decisions always to make, and a lot of people depend on this money, but very pretty is what the way it went. 575 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:23,120 And committee that was involved. Well, you'll be hearing very shortly about Maria who will be bringing the applicants or the applications or reviewed council and sign-off. 576 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Do you have a date or staff as a date? 577 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120 It's going to be midday, as far as I know. 578 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,120 I'm sure that she wanted to do it earlier this year. 579 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:40,120 Well, that's great for the donors or the applicants rather are hanging waiting on beta breath. 580 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,120 So, yeah. Thank you, Councilor Bell, Councilor McDonald. 581 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Yes. Thank you. Through the chair. 582 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:55,120 I did attend the LG LA conference. I had a good company there with quite a few RG directors. 583 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:01,120 And I think it was much less attended than they typically are because it is kind of the final year. 584 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,120 But I think also, because I think it's been kind of a rough goal for a lot of councilors. 585 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:21,120 A lot of municipalities with all the international issues and the political polarization and housing policy and all the issues we ended up dealing with it. 586 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120 We didn't really imagine, I think, when we started. 587 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,120 So, it was quite an interesting get together and to everybody tell the kind of, I look there wounds together. 588 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120 I guess a little bit. 589 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,120 But we had a interesting, you know, speaker, Bill Baker's name. 590 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:49,120 And he's kind of an ad guy. He's into getting P.E. does a lot of, of course, conferences gets people interested in telling their story. 591 00:33:49,120 --> 00:34:00,120 So his message was to, in order to finish strong, which was the theme of the conference, is to put maybe think and put up your own experience into a story. 592 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:17,120 A short story, almost like a little TED talk really, to communicate and to synthesize what you've been through and to compress it in a way that is a kind of a good way to communicate to the public because we're communicating with the public a lot. 593 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:25,120 So I guess learning some of these skills, it would have been nice if they told us that for years ago, but it's really interesting to go through that process. 594 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:40,120 So I think that was the main focus of the conference is just talking to people about their experiences and how they communicate them and what they did right and what they did wrong, which is really learning about. 595 00:34:40,120 --> 00:35:01,120 And then the other thing was about stewardship, asset management was really the focus of the stewardship and how you steward your, your, not your governance, not so much your operations, but of course you need your operations staff to help you stewardship things that are really critical right now like infrastructure. 596 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:12,120 It's not about financing new infrastructure. It's about realizing that a lot of your existing infrastructure takes a lot of money to upgrade it for the next 25 years. 597 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:27,120 So I think it gives us this quite well on that starting to look at their natural assets as part of that equation, which I think is not an excellent idea obviously, but so that was really insightful. 598 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:45,120 And then the it ended up really talking about the new training that the agency is going to use in terms of using like a 1940 small about how to teach people things and my classroom setting and and structured learning they're going to move to a much more fluid approach. 599 00:35:46,120 --> 00:36:04,120 The open to more than just people in local government through UBC they're going to be revamping it entirely and doing a lot more of it online even though they realize a lot of personal interaction meeting people these events is really critical for talking about burden issues. 600 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:20,120 They realize it's getting harder and harder to get people together. So they're and they also want to engage a lot more people into getting it to politics. So I think they'll be quite interesting transition and they're going to start doing that next year. 601 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:29,120 I think they're working on it quite a bit so that was a lot to to take in three days sitting on a dining room chair which they give you but. 602 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:41,120 So yeah it was it was good to go to but challenging in terms of the the content it was you know quite personalized I guess thanks. 603 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Thank you that's interesting. Elsewhere wrote. 604 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Thank you not much attended the community services master planning group with the consultants. 605 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:05,120 I've connected with nation's new house and finding on getting our. 606 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,120 You know, leading scheduled out with the new council. 607 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,120 And himself and working with Kelly. 608 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,120 Allie with our vulnerable populations working group. 609 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Together we can. Who does recovery housing all over BC is very. 610 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,120 Excited to expand to the south coast. 611 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,120 And they're senior executive team is going to be coming over sometime in April. 612 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:43,120 And so Kelly and I are going to be setting up some leadership leadership roundtable just to. 613 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,120 So everybody can get a better understanding of their programs. 614 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:55,120 Um, etc. So that is very exciting news. 615 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,120 Um, and we'll help to fill that. 616 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,120 A little missing gap and that housing continuum. 617 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,120 Um. 618 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120 I think that's it. 619 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120 Great. Thank you. 620 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Um, nothing this last week. 621 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Just a reminder though that last week the community safety technical working group met. 622 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,120 And sort of just to remind the public that. 623 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,120 Um, their. 624 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,120 Uh, rain city have done a fabulous job with the unhoused tent community. 625 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,120 Uh, by the shelter and I've found housing for all but three or four people. 626 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,120 So, uh, that's dramatically different than it was a year ago. 627 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,120 Um, everyone knows I think is aware that. 628 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:53,120 The, the servicing is going to be built within the next sort of two or three weeks or started for the community services building. 629 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,120 So there's discussion about how to help the remaining people. 630 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Uh, and that's ongoing. Thanks. 631 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,120 Hey. Thank you. 632 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:09,120 Um, I guess for me, the big thing dominated the last couple of weeks is the work. 633 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,120 Uh, I, a number of people have been doing including our MP. 634 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,120 Patrick Wiler on the temporary foreign workers. 635 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,120 Uh, issue. 636 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,120 Uh, culminated in a media event on Monday and a number of things in publicity. 637 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120 Probably heard in the last couple of days. 638 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120 I can tell counselors, lots going on. 639 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:37,120 Both in Ottawa and Victoria and across the rural parts of BC and the rest of the country. 640 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,120 Uh, attended these purpose. 641 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120 Uh, the temporary socials in A. G. M. last night. 642 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,120 Um, surprising, but everybody in East purpose phase getting older. 643 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,120 A lot of the same old faces. 644 00:39:47,120 --> 00:40:02,120 So we're, we're, we're looking for, uh, and, and I think this would probably true for all the community associations and appeal to those younger in our community to step up and get involved and have a bit of fun. 645 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:08,120 Uh, sad thing, just acknowledge the passing of Mark Pearson on January 9th, those who know Mark. 646 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,120 Uh, she was a passionate, long standing, uh, advocate for Davis Bay. 647 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:19,120 Wilson Creek Summer Park for the Davis Bay Parkway, which we still call a highway. 648 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,120 And, uh, so our thoughts are with her family. 649 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:33,120 And, uh, early shout-out, perhaps the rotary is again organizing what they're calling this year community connections event on April 18th. 650 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,120 And they're looking for volunteer and other community groups to participate. 651 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:46,120 If you've been there at the seniors activity center, it's a great day for, uh, people to come and learn what else is going on. 652 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:52,120 Maybe they want to volunteer, maybe they want to learn about what's going on or maybe they just want to meet some new people. 653 00:40:52,120 --> 00:41:07,120 So, if anybody out there wants to, uh, become, uh, be a participant or an exhibitor, I guess you'd call them, uh, reach out to rotary or I believe the senior center, uh, soon they're filling up fast. 654 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120 So, that is my report. 655 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120 Also, there's nothing else. 656 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:25,120 We're then go to page 193, and this is the Solar Waste Management Plan update letter from our D, or receipt. 657 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,120 And, what do we want to do with it? 658 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,120 Please. 659 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,120 And sign this one, so I feel a little bit into it. 660 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:42,120 Don't we have the Solar Waste Management Plan on our draft agenda for next week? 661 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,120 It is. 662 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,120 Yes, yes. 663 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,120 So, uh, I think as far as I'm concerned for letters. 664 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,120 It's been working, I guess. 665 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,120 It's coming next week. 666 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,120 This is my thoughts. 667 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,120 I don't know. 668 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Right. 669 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,120 Is there anything to do with it? 670 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,120 So, they've been invited. 671 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,120 We can assume there. 672 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,120 Okay. 673 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,120 So, no letter required. 674 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120 It's a rhetorical question. 675 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,120 Yeah. 676 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Right. 677 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:12,120 So, we will, uh, give us then the motion is to receive the letter. 678 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,120 Okay. 679 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,120 Second. 680 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,120 Anything else? 681 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,120 All in favor of receipt? 682 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,120 Erried. 683 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:29,120 Uh, then 10.2 is, uh, the stirps on 195, but the substantive is the letter from your, uh, you, uh, Prince George, 684 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:36,120 regarding the petition and an appeal to, uh, individuals for sure to sign the petition. 685 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,120 Uh, if they so wish. 686 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:45,120 And I think the way I read this, he was, uh, when the beginning, I'm writing task for your support. 687 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:52,120 Uh, I'm not sure if the district itself could sign, but that's sort of the way I read this. 688 00:42:52,120 --> 00:43:00,120 And we wanted to, as a council, be signifying, support or otherwise. 689 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120 These councilor Shepherd. 690 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,120 Yeah. 691 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:13,120 I mean, all, all make a motion that, uh, council, um, sign the petition, um, on behalf of the community. 692 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:20,120 I think a lot of those points, uh, this council has been advocating for at UBCM meeting with ministers. 693 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:26,120 So, uh, unless any other councilor should agree with individual points, okay? 694 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,120 Well, we'll follow. 695 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:33,120 So, yeah, there's a motion to, uh, for district to sign. 696 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,120 Oops. 697 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,120 No, apparently. 698 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,120 And we'll take a, your phone. 699 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,120 Okay. 700 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,120 Okay. 701 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120 Well, find out of his phone as waterproof. 702 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Um, was that a second concert? 703 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,120 No, not in the second meeting. 704 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,120 I've actually got a point of order. 705 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,120 Okay. 706 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,120 All right. 707 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,120 Point of order? 708 00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,120 The, uh, the commons petition site actually requires it to be a Canadian citizen or a resident of Canada. 709 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,120 That sign sign petition. 710 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,120 So, I don't know that we as an organization can sign this petition. 711 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,120 Um, I mean, it personally speaking, I'm, I'm supportive of because of it. 712 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,120 Because I think it's a lot of the work that's already being undertaken for bail reform. 713 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120 I don't think we as an organization can sign this petition. 714 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,120 No. 715 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,120 And, um, I was, I agree with you. 716 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:29,120 Um, I was thinking of a letter that would work in sway through the system, but would not be part of the electronic. 717 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,120 Um, so, your, your point of order was to clarify that. 718 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:41,120 So, I don't think we can, yeah, I guess I would throw that motion. 719 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,120 Okay. 720 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,120 You cleaned up yet? 721 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,120 Good. 722 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120 Um, okay. 723 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,120 So, counsel is there any appetite to provide an indication to, uh, 724 00:44:54,120 --> 00:45:00,120 instords that we are supportive to follow the form of, uh, getting better. 725 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Firstly, I already signed it. So, I mean, you know, six or seven signatures, I think is probably more effective than any ways. 726 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Yep. 727 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Okay. 728 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:24,000 And I think people that are watching will understand that council, I believe, is generally supportive, so we'll just take it for a receipt. 729 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000 Yes, you may the splash. 730 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Well, okay. So we'll take this as received and certainly I've already signed it. 731 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:49,000 And we will do talk to Mayor, you are quite often, so I'll convey our general support. Next, we talk. 732 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:58,000 Okay. So, that brings us to the seed funding proposal for a cultural center feasibility study. 733 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:16,000 And council, we have this, and I should, if it's not clear from those that are remaining in the gallery, we have John down and Brian Baxter with us to answer any questions, but council, I wish to proceed. 734 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:28,000 And I'm sorry, we had an amended version of this that was sent around. I don't think it's materially different. 735 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:37,000 So, okay. So, but it's fine, it's crafting rather than substantive changes. I think it's fair. 736 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,000 Yeah. 737 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Councilor Shepherd. Yeah, to the chair. So we're just being asked to, to receive the documents on the proposal. 738 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Well, it's, it's before us for consideration, which is a nice term for, okay. So, what do any thoughts on what we want to do with it? 739 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,000 How did you receive the document? 740 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Oh, let other council, please. 741 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,000 Okay. Please. 742 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:26,000 Thank you. I guess I'm, I'm generally supportive of an independent sort of organization working on this concept in terms of providing supportive funding. 743 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,000 I mean, we've finished our budgeting process. 744 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,000 We were pretty tight in terms of money for things. 745 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:45,000 So, I'm not sure if or how we could fund anything towards this, but, I mean, certainly, I think the district decision could provide a letter of support towards this project. 746 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000 But I don't know if that's what all is being asked for here. 747 00:47:50,000 --> 00:48:01,000 So, I mean, given that we have the room, I would welcome them to come forward and give us a couple minutes, right, overview of what they're envisioning here, just for more context and community awareness. 748 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,000 Okay, we'll just do that in a second, but Councilor Bell. 749 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,000 I would support that as well. I'd like to hear more about the vision. 750 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:17,000 And certainly, at this point, the funding, I think it's not something I would like to discuss, isn't what we want to hear more. 751 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,000 Okay. 752 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000 So, oops, thank you. Councilor McDonald. 753 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000 Yes, through the chair. 754 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,000 I do have some questions a bit about it, so I thought I'd bring them up before they speak. 755 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:43,000 I'm a little concerned that we don't really have the critical mass to support such a venue here, the way it seems to be described. 756 00:48:43,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Maybe in 20 years, maybe, but also, in terms of if it's going to be a tourism attraction, et cetera, I'm concerned that we might have more people wanting to come in the great weather, which, again, adds to our, our various issues in our issues that we know don't have any comfortable medium to long term solutions. 757 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:26,000 So, if they could just keep that in mind in their comments, and I need some convincing that way, because, you know, sometimes in an effort to provide some nice services, special cultural and arts services, who doesn't like that, I'm very in support of that. 758 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:34,000 We end up making trade-offs that cause some problems in other areas, so I'm just trying to be strategic about it. Thank you. 759 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:45,000 And I think, as a general rule, feasibility study is exactly to assess those sort of things, so I certainly agree with the general comments. 760 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Mr. Down Mr. Baxter, if you want to come up, because the only way we can hear you or come from a clock, and can hear you is to use the microphone. 761 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:02,000 I think, though, just to anchor this, you know, this is, as you've heard, there's certainly no money now. 762 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:09,000 I want to relate for this year. There's perhaps a curiosity of what is possible. 763 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:18,000 And, okay, no, no, well, by the way, two minutes, and you, and you get to press the button on the microphone. 764 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Just, and just so, just before you start, so I'm offering you this, because just so that we get some questions answered that the council is indicated. 765 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:48,000 But this is just to start a discussion, I think, out of which, I think you're hopeful that maybe it's fair to say you'd like, and this is never going to work, would be a better answer than we don't really know what we want to do. 766 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,000 You've got to still press the button there. 767 00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Yeah, that was really the intent of this was to just, you know, to begin a conversation, dialogue about the possibility of something like this happening in the future. 768 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:16,000 I mean, this would be a major undertaking that would be maybe 10 years away, but just given my participation in the art community here, this is something that keeps coming up. 769 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:22,000 So, I didn't make a little note here if that's okay to read from. 770 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,000 So, first, you know, thank you for the opportunity to let us speak this evening. 771 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,000 What we were proposing is not simply a building, but the beginning of a conversation. 772 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,000 And one grounded in years of a community dialogue across the lower Sunshine Coast. 773 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:46,000 And again, again, we keep hearing the same thing. 774 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,000 We have an extraordinary creative capacity here, but our cultural infrastructure has not had pace. 775 00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:08,000 So, you know, with the, um, if you wanted to look at the recital society in this and that and so on, that was our idea was to maybe put this concept forward that might bring people together. 776 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,000 To help figure out how to do it. 777 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,000 The proposed ask for something very modest in scale, but significant in impact. 778 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,000 Support for the feasibility study. 779 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:29,000 A careful professional process that allows us to listen properly, engage broadly and determine what is both needed and achievable. 780 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:37,000 At its core, this is about creating a shared space, one that brings together the visual and performing arts education. 781 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:47,000 Food, gathering, and community life while respecting the autonomy and contributions of the many organizations already doing important work. 782 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:56,000 We see this not as a replacement for anything that exists, but as an opportunity to strengthen the entire cultural ecosystem. 783 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:06,000 With the right partnership, including the Salish Nation, local organizations and all levels of government, we believe this project can become a meaningful long-term public asset. 784 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:16,000 And we are simply asking to take the first responsible step, and so that's, um, we're not looking for funding. 785 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:31,000 Actually, what would be wonderful is if just putting this forward now, if, because it's just been sort of the two of us trying to put this together, which is taken a bit of effort. 786 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:40,000 It's a very good question to have some very good people to edit and make their points made. 787 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,000 So that's kind of where we're at. 788 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,000 And, like I say, I wasn't expecting this at all. 789 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,000 But, um, yeah, it's a beginning, if that's okay. 790 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:59,000 And I understand the concerns of, you know, whether in the future with Barry and this, or maybe it has to be a hotel, 791 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,000 or whatever it might be that, um, yeah, we're just starting. 792 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,000 So, if that's okay, um, great. 793 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,000 No, thank you. 794 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:19,000 I think, you know, I counsel, I mean, any follow-ups or, that's why I preface it in these sort of things. 795 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000 If you get a lot of people saying, no, don't bother. 796 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000 It's in some ways more helpful. 797 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000 You don't spend time on something that nobody's interested in. 798 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000 Well, I don't think you're hearing that from us. 799 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Right. Okay. 800 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:45,000 And if anybody has any suggestions over time, it's certainly like to learn how to keep going forward. 801 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:53,000 And I'm not sure we have two architects that are helping us when we're guiding us through this process. 802 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Yeah. 803 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,000 That, um, maybe what we could do after this is, um, you're hoping to maybe hold a, um, maybe something like that, 804 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:09,000 with a stakeholders meeting, maybe in the summer, um, at Bonnie Grud, just to bring some people together in the community, 805 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:17,000 expressed interest in maybe supporting such a thing, or, um, um, um, 806 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000 I think that's a good idea. 807 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,000 And let us know. 808 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,000 Yeah. 809 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000 So that some of us perhaps can participate as well. 810 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000 Yeah. 811 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000 Okay. 812 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000 Well, thank you all very much. 813 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,000 Okay. 814 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,000 Yep. 815 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,000 Please go to the room. 816 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,000 One question. 817 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,000 I just wanted to comment. 818 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,000 Thank you. 819 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000 Um, this comes up every three to four years. 820 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,000 And, you know, I mean, it is a gap in our community for sure, for sure. 821 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:47,000 But what we haven't seen in my eight years here is actually the arts community come together itself, 822 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,000 and come to us and get behind it and say, um, this is what we need. 823 00:55:52,000 --> 00:56:03,000 And it is always whenever we hear about it's generally the same, you know, mixed kind of concept that could be used by multiple, you know, different types of art. 824 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:10,000 Um, but I, you know, for something like this to be successful, you're going to have to be committed, even if people say no. 825 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:18,000 And like it's almost got to be a passion that, you know, you have to ask 18 times before you get anything close to, yes, the data shows that. 826 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Yeah. 827 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:29,000 And so I would want to see you come back like in an organized fashion that's not just YouTube guys, not that you can't do it by yourself. 828 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:39,000 But, you know, you'd want to have because all your applications to grants and anything is going to depend on, you know, 829 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,000 the type of work you can show. 830 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,000 We just wanted to get the pressure. 831 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,000 Yeah. 832 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:52,000 And I applied, I applied the effort because I do think it's a gap in the community. 833 00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:00,000 But certainly some sort of non-profit kind of organization is going to have your, 834 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,000 probably going to have the best chances success in my experience. 835 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,000 Yeah. 836 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:14,000 And I guess what we sort of, we're thinking too is with the feasibility study if we can apply here and there to get some money. 837 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,000 And then, you know, raise money within the community as well. 838 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:28,000 But that the, the actual, you know, complex facility would be, that would probably be mostly private money. 839 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:34,000 Well, and there's a lot, there's, I would say, from my experience, there is lots of that around. 840 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:42,000 And the community is, like, it'll come out and support lots of different endeavors. 841 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,000 So I don't think it's a pipe dream. 842 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,000 Just, and I think it's a good, a great start of conversation. 843 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000 Yeah. 844 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Okay. 845 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000 Thanks. 846 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000 So I want to go to the council for the question and then wrap this up. 847 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,000 Council. 848 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,000 Yes. 849 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,000 Thank you to the chair. 850 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000 I mean, I also have a background in architecture. 851 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:10,000 I was working in Victoria and a group that came forward with a similar type proposal for right down on the waterfront. 852 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,000 And it looked great. 853 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000 Like, this is why you get architects involved. 854 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,000 Sometimes it's they design something and you see the dream, right? 855 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000 And it's like, oh, yes. 856 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,000 Look at it. 857 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,000 We want it, which is nice. 858 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,000 But usually what you need in a case like this is a very wealthy patron. 859 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:34,000 I know in Calgary also the whole art scene was solely transformed with one major patron who just decided she wanted to have 860 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,000 Opera and ballet and Calgary and et cetera, et cetera. 861 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,000 And that really helped a lot. 862 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,000 And it is great to see it come together. 863 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,000 And I do think there is a lot of disparate groups here. 864 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:55,000 It would be really nice to have some coordinating kind of overarching agency or place or 865 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:04,000 group that would kind of, you know, get us working together and advertising this together and coordinating it together. 866 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:10,000 Getting a synergy of all these groups working together because there's a lot of good intentions local groups, 867 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:19,000 but it's hard to get them to, you know, gel together and raise, you know, get that kind of critical mass that we need locally. 868 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,000 But also the quality that you need to attract people. 869 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000 It could be a good tourism thing. 870 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000 If we could get it over the shoulder season. 871 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000 So these types of things if they're very done well. 872 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:35,000 You will come in the rain to see the best pianists and all of Canada. 873 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,000 I did. 874 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,000 So we're good. 875 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:47,000 I mean, with the architects, it was not, well, one has done many civic buildings across Canada and places. 876 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:53,000 But it was more about what what do we need to do in the plant and so they came back with information. 877 00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:00,000 And then also, I'd like to, my work is a CPA and so we had a meeting with. 878 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,000 And then we brought the proposal and he said, well, let's get it. Now you've got to put some meat on the bone. I didn't mean like, yeah, why? 879 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:15,000 Yeah, yeah. That came back with like a whole host of things. So we're just, yeah, we're just trying to get it going and hopefully from something like this. 880 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,000 Then someone else in the community can be joined on and because it's going to take everybody. 881 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,000 Yeah, they could have. 882 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000 I agree. Go to Councilor Bill. 883 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:29,000 Yeah, one final question or a comment. Your first paragraph is those probably the critical paragraphs. 884 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,000 Your feasibility study. That is one of the primary pieces that you need to get together. 885 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:44,000 Not as quickly as you can, but no, it's got to be a priority because I know that there's some projects that are happening here right now. 886 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:50,000 And that is their sticking point is their feasibility study and they're looking for money for feasibility studies. 887 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,000 So that's how you get the support that you need for funding from all kinds of areas. 888 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000 Yeah, critical point. Yeah, great. 889 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000 And good luck. And it's great. That will even feel there's a need for it. 890 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,000 Yeah. Thank you for being here. 891 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,000 Great. Thank you, John. 892 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,000 Okay. Great. 893 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,000 Okay. Well, thank you all very much. 894 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:17,000 Okay. Council one last item should take all of 30 seconds. 895 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,000 Release from closed item 11.1 on page 227. 896 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:29,000 Oh, your worship, if I may. And requesting a slightly different procedure for the receipt of the release from closed. 897 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:39,000 We are transitioning from a manually built resolution tracker to an automated one in order to accurately capture motions that are released from closed. 898 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:47,000 I will ask that you make a motion to see if Council has an appetite to formally receive this item through a vote. 899 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,000 So to be automated we're going to involve humans. Excellent. 900 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,000 That is correct. 901 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:02,000 All right. So moved to release from closed and seconded all in favor. 902 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,000 Released, are we released? 903 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,000 Okay. Council, anything else? 904 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,000 If not, the motion to adjourn all in favor. 905 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,000 We are adjourned. And now, chance for questions. 906 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:25,000 And we have one familiar name in the gallery in the zoom. 907 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000 We stopped. 908 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000 So Lynn, don't know if you have any questions. 909 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,000 But anybody here, if you have questions of us, this is your chance.