1 00:23:10,366 --> 00:23:10,900 testing. 2 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:11,400 Caption test. 3 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,400 Testing. 4 00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:17,973 Caption test. 5 00:23:17,973 --> 00:23:18,474 Testing. 6 00:23:18,474 --> 00:23:18,741 Caption test. 7 00:23:18,741 --> 00:23:20,741 Testing. 8 00:25:11,887 --> 00:25:13,880 Caption. 9 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,488 >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone 10 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:18,794 please could find a seat. 11 00:25:18,794 --> 00:25:19,594 It is 2 o'clock tuesday, 12 00:25:19,594 --> 00:25:21,594 SEPTEMBER 1. Welcome back 13 00:25:25,868 --> 00:25:26,869 everyone. 14 00:25:26,869 --> 00:25:31,690 We are going to begin with a 15 00:25:40,783 --> 00:25:41,500 moment of silence. 16 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:43,500 Thank you. 17 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:44,820 I ask everyone 18 00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:46,820 , if you are 19 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:01,670 able, please stand for the 20 00:26:01,670 --> 00:26:02,605 pledge of allegiance. 21 00:26:02,605 --> 00:26:03,506 >>> I pledge allegiance to the 22 00:26:03,506 --> 00:26:04,240 flag of the united states of 23 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,174 america and to the republic for 24 00:26:05,174 --> 00:26:06,410 which it stands, one nation 25 00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:08,441 under GOD, indivisible, with 26 00:26:10,446 --> 00:26:11,514 liberty and justice for all. 27 00:26:11,514 --> 00:26:12,448 >> Chair Deshundra: before we 28 00:26:12,448 --> 00:26:13,480 get into the meat of the day I 29 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,383 would like to go over 30 00:26:14,383 --> 00:26:14,550 procedural matters 31 00:26:14,550 --> 00:26:16,180 . 32 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:19,618 We have a request to different 33 00:26:19,821 --> 00:26:20,756 discussion item 12. 34 00:26:20,756 --> 00:26:21,223 We also have a request differ 35 00:26:21,223 --> 00:26:23,623 to land use cases. 36 00:26:26,195 --> 00:26:27,620 One of them is 11 c and that is 37 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:27,963 have adjusted dates and the 38 00:26:27,963 --> 00:26:30,132 other is 14 be and that is 39 00:26:30,132 --> 00:26:31,801 project industry that is a part 40 00:26:31,801 --> 00:26:33,469 of our 7 o'clock meeting 41 00:26:33,469 --> 00:26:35,469 . 42 00:26:36,271 --> 00:26:37,273 You get a motion to defer? 43 00:26:37,273 --> 00:26:38,774 >> I moved to defer those three 44 00:26:38,774 --> 00:26:38,908 items 45 00:26:38,908 --> 00:26:39,875 . 46 00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:41,875 >> Chair Deshundra: properly 47 00:26:42,144 --> 00:26:42,244 moved and seconded 48 00:26:42,244 --> 00:26:43,212 . 49 00:26:43,212 --> 00:26:44,180 >> Andrea Bailey: could you 50 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:44,547 repeat again what you just 51 00:26:44,547 --> 00:26:46,547 said? 52 00:26:47,483 --> 00:26:48,517 >> Chair Deshundra: 11c which 53 00:26:48,517 --> 00:26:51,387 is savage estates under agency 54 00:26:51,387 --> 00:26:52,755 time. 55 00:26:52,755 --> 00:26:55,755 12n which is discussion under 56 00:26:55,958 --> 00:26:58,358 supervisors time in 14 be. 57 00:27:00,663 --> 00:27:01,297 This is hot off the presses is 58 00:27:01,297 --> 00:27:04,332 project industry and that is a 59 00:27:04,332 --> 00:27:05,301 part of our 7 o'clock meeting. 60 00:27:05,301 --> 00:27:05,568 >> Andrea Bailey: disney 61 00:27:05,568 --> 00:27:07,568 declivity. 62 00:27:08,838 --> 00:27:11,238 Thank you MADAM Chair. 63 00:27:32,294 --> 00:27:34,294 >> Chair Deshundra: 64 00:27:37,633 --> 00:27:37,766 >> but unanimous 65 00:27:37,766 --> 00:27:38,834 . 66 00:27:38,834 --> 00:27:39,268 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 67 00:27:39,268 --> 00:27:39,935 so very much. 68 00:27:39,935 --> 00:27:40,903 We are now going to move to 69 00:27:40,903 --> 00:27:41,504 agenda item for 70 00:27:41,504 --> 00:27:42,171 . 71 00:27:42,171 --> 00:27:46,142 And I get a motion to approve 72 00:27:46,142 --> 00:27:46,342 for a through c 73 00:27:46,342 --> 00:27:47,309 . 74 00:27:47,309 --> 00:27:47,576 >> Andrea Bailey: move for 75 00:27:47,576 --> 00:27:48,310 approval. 76 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:49,111 >> Tom Gordy: second. 77 00:27:49,111 --> 00:27:49,979 >> Chair Deshundra: and has 78 00:27:49,979 --> 00:27:52,181 been properly moved and 79 00:27:52,181 --> 00:27:52,681 seconded. 80 00:27:52,681 --> 00:27:54,681 Any discussion? 81 00:27:55,885 --> 00:27:59,485 Seeing none, let's go ahead and 82 00:28:12,334 --> 00:28:12,501 take our votes. 83 00:28:12,501 --> 00:28:14,501 The 84 00:28:18,941 --> 00:28:19,108 >> vote unanimous 85 00:28:19,108 --> 00:28:20,176 . 86 00:28:20,176 --> 00:28:21,110 >> Chair Deshundra: we are now 87 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:21,844 going to the fun part and that 88 00:28:21,844 --> 00:28:22,344 is commendations and 89 00:28:22,344 --> 00:28:24,344 proclamations. 90 00:28:24,446 --> 00:28:26,682 Can I get a motion to move five 91 00:28:26,682 --> 00:28:27,183 a through j forward? 92 00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:28,918 >> so moved. 93 00:28:28,918 --> 00:28:29,180 >> second 94 00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:29,984 . 95 00:28:29,984 --> 00:28:31,984 >> Chair Deshundra: any 96 00:28:31,987 --> 00:28:32,655 discussion? 97 00:28:32,655 --> 00:28:36,255 Let's go ahead and take our 98 00:28:39,228 --> 00:28:41,228 votes. 99 00:28:43,966 --> 00:28:44,166 >> vote unanimous 100 00:28:44,166 --> 00:28:45,201 . 101 00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:45,634 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 102 00:28:45,634 --> 00:28:46,635 so very much. 103 00:28:46,635 --> 00:28:47,269 Before I go down to the dais, 104 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:49,939 want to let people know because 105 00:28:49,939 --> 00:28:52,741 we have a large number of 106 00:28:52,741 --> 00:28:52,942 commendations and proclamations 107 00:28:52,942 --> 00:28:53,843 . 108 00:28:53,843 --> 00:28:57,746 We are going to hold all photos 109 00:28:57,746 --> 00:28:57,980 until the end 110 00:28:57,980 --> 00:28:58,848 . 111 00:28:58,848 --> 00:28:59,114 We will give it to you, say a 112 00:28:59,114 --> 00:29:01,114 few words. 113 00:29:02,117 --> 00:29:02,985 But I ask everyone remain 114 00:29:02,985 --> 00:29:05,540 seated so we could take photos 115 00:29:05,540 --> 00:29:06,210 at the end. 116 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:07,388 There might be some members who 117 00:29:07,388 --> 00:29:10,326 want to come down for some of 118 00:29:10,326 --> 00:29:10,926 these 119 00:29:10,926 --> 00:29:11,494 . 120 00:29:11,494 --> 00:29:13,496 Not just at the podium but 121 00:29:13,496 --> 00:29:16,496 actual for the photos prefer 122 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,202 the first one, we are going to 123 00:29:20,202 --> 00:29:21,236 give that one of the 7 o'clock. 124 00:29:21,236 --> 00:29:22,171 That is the principal boys 125 00:29:22,171 --> 00:29:22,705 soccer team. 126 00:29:22,705 --> 00:29:24,140 They are in school. 127 00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:26,140 We will 128 00:29:30,846 --> 00:29:31,547 let them stay there. 129 00:29:31,547 --> 00:29:35,147 Lisa, if you and your team 130 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:00,776 could meet me at the podium. 131 00:30:00,776 --> 00:30:01,343 >> Chair Deshundra: to proclaim 132 00:30:01,343 --> 00:30:02,411 SEPTEMBER 2026 as recovery 133 00:30:02,411 --> 00:30:03,145 month. 134 00:30:03,145 --> 00:30:06,745 If anyone else wants to come 135 00:30:06,982 --> 00:30:08,982 down and join. 136 00:30:10,853 --> 00:30:11,487 SEPTEMBER is recovery month. 137 00:30:11,487 --> 00:30:12,488 This year's theme, recover 138 00:30:12,488 --> 00:30:14,888 israel restoring every aspect 139 00:30:15,157 --> 00:30:15,291 of life 140 00:30:15,291 --> 00:30:16,292 . 141 00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:17,293 Reminds us recovery is not 142 00:30:17,293 --> 00:30:19,693 simply about overcoming a 143 00:30:21,964 --> 00:30:22,965 challenge. 144 00:30:22,965 --> 00:30:23,966 It's about restoring 145 00:30:23,966 --> 00:30:24,700 relationships, health, purpose, 146 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,503 stability and the many aspects 147 00:30:27,503 --> 00:30:28,504 of life that make us home. 148 00:30:28,504 --> 00:30:29,505 It is time to recognize family, 149 00:30:29,505 --> 00:30:30,539 friends, professionals, 150 00:30:30,539 --> 00:30:31,307 community organizations and 151 00:30:31,307 --> 00:30:33,707 individuals in recovery who 152 00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:38,180 make that journey possible. 153 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:39,215 Would like to recognize 154 00:30:39,215 --> 00:30:40,182 principal and community 155 00:30:40,182 --> 00:30:40,916 services and community partners 156 00:30:40,916 --> 00:30:41,584 for their continued commitment 157 00:30:41,584 --> 00:30:42,218 of the work 158 00:30:42,218 --> 00:30:43,219 , including the 159 00:30:43,219 --> 00:30:45,619 recovery israel event on 160 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,890 SEPTEMBER 16 update ajay for 161 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:49,489 lazo building more community 162 00:30:49,625 --> 00:30:50,626 members and people in recovery 163 00:30:50,626 --> 00:30:51,660 will have an opportunity to 164 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:52,161 share stories of resilience and 165 00:30:52,161 --> 00:30:52,862 hope. 166 00:30:52,862 --> 00:30:55,862 The message is simple but 167 00:30:58,167 --> 00:30:58,934 powerful changes possible, 168 00:30:58,934 --> 00:31:00,169 recovery is real, no one has to 169 00:31:00,169 --> 00:31:01,360 walk that journey alone pick on 170 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,872 behalf of the board of 171 00:31:02,872 --> 00:31:04,872 supervisors, we probably 172 00:31:05,708 --> 00:31:07,543 proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as a 173 00:31:07,543 --> 00:31:07,610 cover a month 174 00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:09,610 . 175 00:31:10,946 --> 00:31:11,180 Would you like to offer some 176 00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:13,180 remarks? 177 00:31:18,454 --> 00:31:19,522 >> thank you chair. 178 00:31:19,522 --> 00:31:20,389 I am behavior had program 179 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:22,789 manager with prince william 180 00:31:24,593 --> 00:31:25,494 county community services this 181 00:31:25,494 --> 00:31:26,161 is our third annual recovery 182 00:31:26,161 --> 00:31:26,328 month event tonight thank you 183 00:31:26,328 --> 00:31:27,290 for 184 00:31:27,290 --> 00:31:27,596 allowing us to have a 185 00:31:27,596 --> 00:31:29,596 proclamation this year. 186 00:31:30,566 --> 00:31:31,667 I want to invite you to our 187 00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:32,802 event wednesday, SEPTEMBER 16 188 00:31:32,802 --> 00:31:33,602 at the for lazo building. 189 00:31:33,602 --> 00:31:37,202 Weave a dynamic speaker who is 190 00:31:37,239 --> 00:31:40,839 a local virginia native who is 191 00:31:40,876 --> 00:31:41,876 a poet and does spoken word and 192 00:31:41,876 --> 00:31:45,476 does speeches about his path to 193 00:31:47,550 --> 00:31:48,350 recovery in his life using 194 00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:51,350 substance in the path regaining 195 00:31:51,987 --> 00:31:52,321 his life and having a family 196 00:31:52,321 --> 00:31:52,888 . 197 00:31:52,888 --> 00:31:53,722 We also of other speakers. 198 00:31:53,722 --> 00:31:56,192 We are providing free lunch to 199 00:31:56,192 --> 00:31:56,992 everyone who attends so we hope 200 00:31:56,992 --> 00:31:57,293 everyone will make it 201 00:31:57,293 --> 00:31:58,527 wednesday, 202 00:31:58,527 --> 00:32:00,527 SEPTEMBER 16. 203 00:32:02,832 --> 00:32:03,933 Thank you. 204 00:32:03,933 --> 00:32:06,568 >> Chair Deshundra: I will give 205 00:32:06,568 --> 00:32:07,690 this to you for safe keeping. 206 00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:09,405 Thank you so much. 207 00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:10,139 Next is phyllis jennings holt. 208 00:32:10,139 --> 00:32:11,740 If you and your team want to 209 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:11,808 come down for kinship care 210 00:32:11,808 --> 00:32:12,173 . 211 00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:14,173 And anyone else. 212 00:32:16,645 --> 00:32:17,346 Upervisor 213 00:32:17,346 --> 00:32:20,946 boddye, I don't know if you 214 00:32:34,196 --> 00:32:35,231 want to come down for this one? 215 00:32:35,231 --> 00:32:36,432 >> thank you MADAM Chair. 216 00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:38,432 Proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as 217 00:32:39,268 --> 00:32:42,268 kinship care awareness month to 218 00:32:42,505 --> 00:32:43,205 recruit recognize SEPTEMBER as 219 00:32:43,205 --> 00:32:44,440 kinship care awareness month 220 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,440 and we knowledge the extended 221 00:32:51,313 --> 00:32:52,314 family members who stepped 222 00:32:52,314 --> 00:32:52,748 forward to care for children 223 00:32:52,748 --> 00:32:54,116 when most needed. 224 00:32:54,116 --> 00:32:54,650 Across prince william county 225 00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:56,650 there 27 kinship families 226 00:32:58,186 --> 00:32:58,854 caring for 44 children in homes 227 00:32:58,854 --> 00:32:59,855 relative other than a parent 228 00:32:59,855 --> 00:33:00,689 serves as the head of household 229 00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:01,690 for every child deserves the 230 00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:02,358 opportunity to grow and learn 231 00:33:02,358 --> 00:33:03,225 in a safe supportive and loving 232 00:33:03,225 --> 00:33:05,625 home for kinship caregivers 233 00:33:08,964 --> 00:33:09,865 help make them possible while 234 00:33:09,865 --> 00:33:10,566 preserving the family 235 00:33:10,566 --> 00:33:11,367 connections I give children a 236 00:33:11,367 --> 00:33:11,634 sense of belonging and 237 00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:13,634 identity. 238 00:33:23,813 --> 00:33:24,847 Kinship care givers often step 239 00:33:24,847 --> 00:33:25,848 into the role unexpectedly but 240 00:33:25,848 --> 00:33:26,849 they do so because they believe 241 00:33:26,849 --> 00:33:27,650 in family giving children the 242 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:28,818 opportunity to remain connected 243 00:33:28,818 --> 00:33:29,852 to the people, traditions, 244 00:33:29,852 --> 00:33:30,351 cultures and communities 245 00:33:30,351 --> 00:33:31,387 important to them. 246 00:33:31,387 --> 00:33:32,540 The principal them board of 247 00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:32,922 supervisors proudly proclaims 248 00:33:32,922 --> 00:33:34,590 SEPTEMBER 26 as kinship care 249 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:35,590 awareness month. 250 00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:37,260 Spoke good afternoon madame 251 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:38,961 george jefferson, vice chair 252 00:33:38,961 --> 00:33:40,963 angry and members of the board. 253 00:33:40,963 --> 00:33:41,300 Director of social services 254 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:43,300 . 255 00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:48,971 Today with me and my team, van 256 00:33:48,971 --> 00:33:50,971 washington assistant director. 257 00:33:51,173 --> 00:33:52,675 Essica, assistant director: 258 00:33:52,675 --> 00:33:55,750 carolyn oliver acting program, 259 00:33:55,778 --> 00:33:57,546 and esa grant caseworker, 260 00:33:57,546 --> 00:33:59,546 candace human services 261 00:34:02,585 --> 00:34:02,718 caseworker 262 00:34:02,718 --> 00:34:03,385 . 263 00:34:03,385 --> 00:34:04,353 Also with a side of chrissy 264 00:34:04,353 --> 00:34:07,353 falls from the dss advisory 265 00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:08,224 board. 266 00:34:08,224 --> 00:34:09,910 Dss as part of the work done to 267 00:34:09,910 --> 00:34:10,626 keep our children safe with 268 00:34:10,626 --> 00:34:11,961 their families 269 00:34:11,961 --> 00:34:13,961 . 270 00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:15,531 When it isn't possible they do 271 00:34:15,531 --> 00:34:16,632 their best to make sure 272 00:34:16,632 --> 00:34:19,320 children can stay with 273 00:34:21,704 --> 00:34:22,371 relatives. 274 00:34:22,371 --> 00:34:23,272 Data shows children tended to 275 00:34:23,272 --> 00:34:26,800 better when they are able to 276 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,900 live in the home of a relative 277 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,279 if they are unable to be with 278 00:34:30,279 --> 00:34:31,247 their biological families are 279 00:34:31,247 --> 00:34:31,914 currently we have 27 kinship 280 00:34:31,914 --> 00:34:32,148 families providing care and 281 00:34:32,148 --> 00:34:33,749 support 282 00:34:33,749 --> 00:34:35,749 , which means there's 27 283 00:34:39,288 --> 00:34:39,789 or more less children in foster 284 00:34:39,789 --> 00:34:40,456 care. 285 00:34:40,456 --> 00:34:40,656 Kinship caregivers step forward 286 00:34:40,656 --> 00:34:42,656 with 287 00:34:47,263 --> 00:34:47,897 courage and compassion, 288 00:34:47,897 --> 00:34:48,764 provide stability during 289 00:34:48,764 --> 00:34:49,732 challenging times because staff 290 00:34:49,732 --> 00:34:50,766 and community partners work 291 00:34:50,766 --> 00:34:51,801 diligently to support families 292 00:34:51,801 --> 00:34:53,680 and strengthen community as a 293 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:53,768 whole big thank you for 294 00:34:53,768 --> 00:34:55,768 recognizing the remarkable 295 00:34:56,372 --> 00:34:57,740 efforts on the caregivers, 296 00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:59,875 community partners and staff 297 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,875 and continuing to champion the 298 00:35:03,746 --> 00:35:04,213 help and safety in prince 299 00:35:04,213 --> 00:35:04,480 william county. 300 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,480 Thank you. 301 00:35:22,798 --> 00:35:23,466 >> Chair Deshundra: all right. 302 00:35:23,466 --> 00:35:24,567 Chief, if he could come down 303 00:35:24,567 --> 00:35:24,767 for national preparedness 304 00:35:24,767 --> 00:35:26,767 month. 305 00:35:41,817 --> 00:35:42,818 Today we recognize 306 00:35:42,818 --> 00:35:43,452 SEPTEMBER as national 307 00:35:43,452 --> 00:35:44,353 preparedness month and the 308 00:35:44,353 --> 00:35:46,753 importance of making to 309 00:35:46,922 --> 00:35:47,890 residents and businesses are 310 00:35:47,890 --> 00:35:48,891 ready when emergencies occur. 311 00:35:48,891 --> 00:35:51,291 Emergency preparedness is a 312 00:35:51,861 --> 00:35:52,561 shared responsibility. 313 00:35:52,561 --> 00:35:53,395 Every household a business 314 00:35:53,395 --> 00:35:54,163 should have a plan to be 315 00:35:54,163 --> 00:35:56,298 prepared to be self-sufficient 316 00:35:56,298 --> 00:35:59,298 for 72 hours following a major 317 00:36:04,907 --> 00:36:05,908 emergency or disaster. 318 00:36:05,908 --> 00:36:06,942 Through the rady principal them 319 00:36:06,942 --> 00:36:07,943 camping, or office of emergency 320 00:36:07,943 --> 00:36:08,944 management is encouraging 321 00:36:08,944 --> 00:36:09,512 residents and businesses to 322 00:36:09,512 --> 00:36:09,712 take simple but important 323 00:36:09,712 --> 00:36:11,712 steps. 324 00:36:12,715 --> 00:36:13,616 Build an emergency kit, make 325 00:36:13,616 --> 00:36:16,616 and practice an emergency plan, 326 00:36:19,221 --> 00:36:19,922 stay informed and learn 327 00:36:19,922 --> 00:36:20,956 lifesaving skills pick the 328 00:36:20,956 --> 00:36:21,857 SEPTEMBER I encourage everyone 329 00:36:21,857 --> 00:36:22,791 to take a few minutes to ask do 330 00:36:22,791 --> 00:36:24,193 I have a plan. 331 00:36:24,193 --> 00:36:26,662 Do I have the supplies I need? 332 00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:31,462 And do I know what to do when 333 00:36:31,467 --> 00:36:32,468 an emergency happens? 334 00:36:32,468 --> 00:36:33,135 Preparedness is more than 335 00:36:33,135 --> 00:36:33,903 protecting ourselves. 336 00:36:33,903 --> 00:36:36,405 A prepared community is a 337 00:36:36,405 --> 00:36:37,720 stronger and more resilient 338 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:39,472 communities of the principal 339 00:36:40,776 --> 00:36:41,443 them board of supervisors 340 00:36:41,443 --> 00:36:43,443 proudly proclaims SEPTEMBER 341 00:36:46,148 --> 00:36:46,348 2026 as national preparedness 342 00:36:46,348 --> 00:36:47,449 month. 343 00:36:47,449 --> 00:36:47,917 Ould you like to offer 344 00:36:47,917 --> 00:36:49,917 some remarks? 345 00:36:54,223 --> 00:36:55,791 >> thank you chair jefferson. 346 00:36:55,791 --> 00:36:58,794 I'm actually going to turn it 347 00:36:58,794 --> 00:37:01,194 to the emergency management 348 00:37:01,897 --> 00:37:02,598 coordinator brian meisner. 349 00:37:02,598 --> 00:37:04,733 The fire department is focused 350 00:37:04,733 --> 00:37:04,867 on response and resiliency 351 00:37:04,867 --> 00:37:05,835 . 352 00:37:05,835 --> 00:37:08,938 We get to do that with a lot of 353 00:37:08,938 --> 00:37:09,438 great folks 354 00:37:09,438 --> 00:37:11,438 , including the 355 00:37:11,674 --> 00:37:12,675 emergency management. 356 00:37:12,675 --> 00:37:15,750 >> thank you chief venture 357 00:37:21,717 --> 00:37:22,751 jefferson. 358 00:37:22,751 --> 00:37:23,452 Brian meisner the emergency 359 00:37:23,452 --> 00:37:24,487 management coordinator. 360 00:37:24,487 --> 00:37:25,821 A couple things we would like 361 00:37:25,821 --> 00:37:26,754 to remind the community of. 362 00:37:26,754 --> 00:37:27,323 First and foremost is to be 363 00:37:27,323 --> 00:37:27,756 practicing pillars of 364 00:37:27,756 --> 00:37:27,990 preparedness chair 365 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:28,824 jefferson 366 00:37:28,824 --> 00:37:29,158 read with us for the 367 00:37:29,158 --> 00:37:31,930 proclamation. 368 00:37:31,930 --> 00:37:32,270 You can go to our website for 369 00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:33,295 the rady principal them can 370 00:37:33,295 --> 00:37:36,895 pain that has those colors of 371 00:37:38,334 --> 00:37:39,568 preparedness, which are making 372 00:37:39,568 --> 00:37:40,169 an emergency plan, building an 373 00:37:40,169 --> 00:37:41,700 emergency kit, staying 374 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:43,470 informed, getting involved in 375 00:37:44,339 --> 00:37:45,400 your community, learning on 376 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,841 lifesaving skill in knowing the 377 00:37:45,841 --> 00:37:46,542 threats and hazards in your 378 00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:48,177 neighborhood. 379 00:37:48,177 --> 00:37:49,440 We are going to be using 380 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,444 preparedness month for three 381 00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:58,354 new things pick first on the 382 00:37:58,354 --> 00:37:59,221 one we are excited about is 383 00:37:59,221 --> 00:38:00,189 going to be a community 384 00:38:00,189 --> 00:38:00,890 engagement window for our flood 385 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:03,890 resilience plan which is an 386 00:38:06,929 --> 00:38:08,300 effort underway in planning and 387 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:09,397 the implementation is finally 388 00:38:09,397 --> 00:38:11,567 kicked off in 2020 60 that will 389 00:38:11,567 --> 00:38:12,301 be up here shortly. 390 00:38:12,301 --> 00:38:13,102 The second has an opportunity 391 00:38:13,102 --> 00:38:14,236 for community facing 392 00:38:14,236 --> 00:38:15,271 presentations. 393 00:38:15,271 --> 00:38:16,705 Whether that is for a house of 394 00:38:16,705 --> 00:38:18,107 worship or an hoa. 395 00:38:18,107 --> 00:38:21,107 Whether it be templates for 396 00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:22,278 folks to self deliver or have 397 00:38:22,278 --> 00:38:22,611 one hour folks go out and 398 00:38:22,611 --> 00:38:24,611 deliver that 399 00:38:27,183 --> 00:38:27,850 presentation, we 400 00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:28,818 are going to be in a position 401 00:38:28,818 --> 00:38:29,685 to start supporting those big 402 00:38:29,685 --> 00:38:31,954 last but not least we want to 403 00:38:31,954 --> 00:38:32,922 start encouraging neighbors to 404 00:38:32,922 --> 00:38:33,756 be thinking about how they can 405 00:38:33,756 --> 00:38:35,491 be helping their neighbors out 406 00:38:35,491 --> 00:38:36,425 pick those same pillars of 407 00:38:36,425 --> 00:38:38,193 preparedness are applied at the 408 00:38:38,193 --> 00:38:40,763 most local level, which for 409 00:38:40,763 --> 00:38:40,963 many of us is our neighborhoods 410 00:38:40,963 --> 00:38:42,832 . 411 00:38:42,832 --> 00:38:45,134 Back and look like it informal 412 00:38:45,134 --> 00:38:47,169 conversation about the unique 413 00:38:47,169 --> 00:38:47,770 skills 414 00:38:47,770 --> 00:38:49,770 , perhaps someone in 415 00:38:50,439 --> 00:38:52,775 skilled trades, someone else in 416 00:38:52,775 --> 00:38:55,775 healthcare, someone is a camper 417 00:38:56,178 --> 00:38:57,179 knows how to purify water. 418 00:38:57,179 --> 00:38:59,181 Start thinking about the 419 00:38:59,181 --> 00:39:02,181 collective skills you can use 420 00:39:03,619 --> 00:39:04,520 to help each other out if you 421 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,488 should have a large emergency. 422 00:39:05,488 --> 00:39:07,723 When we have a robust public 423 00:39:07,723 --> 00:39:08,791 safety system in the county it 424 00:39:08,791 --> 00:39:09,692 could be overwhelmed and take a 425 00:39:09,692 --> 00:39:11,594 day or two to reach the whole 426 00:39:11,594 --> 00:39:12,461 community if we have feet of 427 00:39:12,461 --> 00:39:16,610 snow, lots of debris from a 428 00:39:16,999 --> 00:39:17,633 storm, etc. Really start 429 00:39:17,633 --> 00:39:18,501 thinking about how you can 430 00:39:18,501 --> 00:39:18,767 implement the steps with your 431 00:39:18,767 --> 00:39:20,767 neighbors. 432 00:39:24,673 --> 00:39:25,174 Thank you. 433 00:39:25,174 --> 00:39:26,575 >> stick around. 434 00:39:26,575 --> 00:39:28,410 We are taking photos later. 435 00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:29,345 Supervisor lacroix, if you can 436 00:39:29,345 --> 00:39:32,345 come down for this one 437 00:39:38,554 --> 00:39:40,554 ? 438 00:39:46,562 --> 00:39:46,662 If everyone associated 439 00:39:46,662 --> 00:39:47,663 . 440 00:39:47,663 --> 00:39:50,366 Of those associated want to 441 00:39:50,366 --> 00:39:54,566 come down or stay in the back, 442 00:40:03,478 --> 00:40:04,513 there is anyone else. 443 00:40:04,513 --> 00:40:05,481 's proclamation AUGUST 2026 is 444 00:40:05,481 --> 00:40:07,881 spinal muscular atrophy month. 445 00:40:08,350 --> 00:40:09,251 Today we recognize spinal 446 00:40:09,251 --> 00:40:10,286 muscular atrophy awareness 447 00:40:10,286 --> 00:40:12,354 month on the individuals and 448 00:40:12,354 --> 00:40:15,354 families who are living with 449 00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:18,910 spinal muscular atrophy. 450 00:40:19,462 --> 00:40:20,496 Sma is a serious neuromuscular 451 00:40:20,496 --> 00:40:22,896 disease that affects physical 452 00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:30,500 strength and can impact a 453 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:30,306 person's ability to walk, eat 454 00:40:30,306 --> 00:40:30,573 and breathe. 455 00:40:30,573 --> 00:40:31,207 For many 456 00:40:31,207 --> 00:40:33,809 years sma was a leading 457 00:40:33,809 --> 00:40:34,844 genetic cause of infant death. 458 00:40:34,844 --> 00:40:35,444 Advances in treatment and 459 00:40:35,444 --> 00:40:37,680 research if given many 460 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,882 individuals with sma greater 461 00:40:39,882 --> 00:40:41,882 opportunities for longer, 462 00:40:45,187 --> 00:40:46,222 healthier lives. 463 00:40:46,222 --> 00:40:47,223 We recognize the importance of 464 00:40:47,223 --> 00:40:49,223 access to healthcare, 465 00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:50,793 caregiving services 466 00:40:50,793 --> 00:40:52,940 , equipment 467 00:40:52,940 --> 00:40:55,940 and public programs that allow 468 00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:56,765 individuals to live as 469 00:40:56,765 --> 00:40:58,734 independently and fully as 470 00:40:58,734 --> 00:41:00,734 possible. 471 00:41:02,771 --> 00:41:03,806 Organizations play an important 472 00:41:03,806 --> 00:41:05,808 role in advancing research, 473 00:41:05,808 --> 00:41:07,808 supporting families, promoting 474 00:41:08,377 --> 00:41:08,943 best practices in advocating 475 00:41:08,943 --> 00:41:10,943 for accessibility and 476 00:41:13,449 --> 00:41:14,416 disability rights. 477 00:41:14,416 --> 00:41:15,551 On behalf of the principal them 478 00:41:15,551 --> 00:41:18,551 board of supervisors we proudly 479 00:41:18,654 --> 00:41:20,654 acknowledge spinal muscular 480 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600 atrophy awareness month. 481 00:41:30,232 --> 00:41:30,966 >> I am cassie. 482 00:41:30,966 --> 00:41:34,566 Want to thank the board agreed 483 00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:35,137 to bring forth the proclamation 484 00:41:35,137 --> 00:41:35,771 . 485 00:41:35,771 --> 00:41:36,405 I'm glued to spinal atrophy my 486 00:41:36,405 --> 00:41:38,405 entire life. 487 00:41:38,607 --> 00:41:39,642 For people like me awareness is 488 00:41:39,642 --> 00:41:43,842 more than knowing the name of a 489 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:44,280 disease 490 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,947 . 491 00:41:44,947 --> 00:41:45,881 It is about being seen. 492 00:41:45,881 --> 00:41:46,714 It's about recognizing people 493 00:41:46,714 --> 00:41:49,114 disabilities belong in our 494 00:41:49,351 --> 00:41:51,351 schools, workplaces, 495 00:41:51,586 --> 00:41:52,621 communities and every table 496 00:41:52,621 --> 00:41:52,788 where decisions are made about 497 00:41:52,788 --> 00:41:54,788 us. 498 00:41:55,224 --> 00:41:57,293 's proclamation MAY only be a 499 00:41:57,293 --> 00:42:00,796 piece of paper but what it 500 00:42:00,796 --> 00:42:01,330 represents to get rest of 501 00:42:01,330 --> 00:42:03,330 represents more. 502 00:42:06,836 --> 00:42:07,703 It tells people living with sma 503 00:42:07,703 --> 00:42:08,170 that our lives, voices and 504 00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:09,205 futures do matter. 505 00:42:09,205 --> 00:42:09,271 Thank you for seeing us 506 00:42:09,271 --> 00:42:11,271 , 507 00:42:12,274 --> 00:42:14,743 recognizing us, and help make 508 00:42:14,743 --> 00:42:17,143 our voices be heard. 509 00:42:23,652 --> 00:42:24,453 [Applause] 510 00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:25,855 >> jeannie is going to give it 511 00:42:25,855 --> 00:42:28,255 to you for safekeeping. 512 00:42:30,993 --> 00:42:31,727 Supervisor stuart and everyone 513 00:42:31,727 --> 00:42:32,628 associated with disability 514 00:42:32,628 --> 00:42:35,628 voting rights we, please come 515 00:42:52,314 --> 00:42:54,314 on down. 516 00:42:59,522 --> 00:43:00,489 >> thank you MADAM Chair. 517 00:43:00,489 --> 00:43:01,123 Today we recognize of number 14 518 00:43:01,123 --> 00:43:03,626 to the 18th is disability 519 00:43:03,626 --> 00:43:04,360 voting rights week. 520 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,261 Disability voting rights gives 521 00:43:05,261 --> 00:43:08,261 us an opportunity to raise 522 00:43:08,397 --> 00:43:09,131 awareness and barriers to 523 00:43:09,131 --> 00:43:10,990 voting recognize the importance 524 00:43:10,990 --> 00:43:12,499 of removing barriers wherever 525 00:43:13,435 --> 00:43:14,470 they exist. 526 00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:15,171 We also recognize the work of 527 00:43:15,171 --> 00:43:17,573 organization such as rev up, 528 00:43:17,573 --> 00:43:17,706 register, educate, vote 529 00:43:17,706 --> 00:43:19,706 , use 530 00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:24,513 your power 531 00:43:24,513 --> 00:43:25,481 . 532 00:43:25,481 --> 00:43:26,148 And the many disability 533 00:43:26,148 --> 00:43:26,949 advocates come election 534 00:43:26,949 --> 00:43:27,616 officials, community 535 00:43:27,616 --> 00:43:28,484 organizations and public 536 00:43:28,484 --> 00:43:30,419 agencies working to promote 537 00:43:30,419 --> 00:43:31,821 accessible and greater civic 538 00:43:31,821 --> 00:43:32,788 participation park in prince 539 00:43:32,788 --> 00:43:36,388 lynn county we are committed to 540 00:43:38,327 --> 00:43:39,361 fostering the inclusive 541 00:43:39,361 --> 00:43:40,610 community for people with 542 00:43:40,610 --> 00:43:42,610 disabilities can participate 543 00:43:42,665 --> 00:43:43,699 fully in civic life, engage 544 00:43:43,699 --> 00:43:44,500 with the local government and 545 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:47,803 help shape the future of our 546 00:43:47,803 --> 00:43:48,804 community. 547 00:43:48,804 --> 00:43:49,438 On behalf of the board of 548 00:43:49,438 --> 00:43:50,773 supervisors we proudly 549 00:43:50,773 --> 00:43:50,840 proclaims SEPTEMBER 14-18 550 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,840 , 551 00:43:55,444 --> 00:43:55,744 2026, is disability voting 552 00:43:55,744 --> 00:43:57,744 rights week. 553 00:44:00,182 --> 00:44:02,485 >> can everybody hear me all 554 00:44:02,485 --> 00:44:04,485 right? 555 00:44:09,391 --> 00:44:12,391 Good afternoon mehter for rev 556 00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:18,734 up virginia. 557 00:44:18,734 --> 00:44:19,368 Wanted to thank all of you for 558 00:44:19,368 --> 00:44:21,768 ensuring this proclamation is 559 00:44:25,608 --> 00:44:28,800 recognized by the vote. 560 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:31,130 Many people falsely believe the 561 00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:31,814 power of the disability 562 00:44:31,814 --> 00:44:34,116 community only existed in the 563 00:44:34,116 --> 00:44:36,516 90s where disability advocates 564 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,689 fall to pass the 88 walking up 565 00:44:40,689 --> 00:44:42,158 the steps of the capital, many 566 00:44:42,158 --> 00:44:45,158 of whom could not walk. 567 00:44:45,594 --> 00:44:46,428 When congress passed the ada, 568 00:44:46,428 --> 00:44:48,828 this became the american 569 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,832 disabilities act log russell 570 00:44:49,832 --> 00:44:52,832 and the guaranteed access for 571 00:44:56,572 --> 00:44:56,906 voting rights 572 00:44:56,906 --> 00:44:57,740 , education and 573 00:44:57,740 --> 00:45:00,376 all other public spaces here 574 00:45:00,376 --> 00:45:01,110 today, however, the disability 575 00:45:01,110 --> 00:45:04,413 community and our vote is alive 576 00:45:04,413 --> 00:45:05,447 and well. 577 00:45:05,447 --> 00:45:05,981 We are, according to some 578 00:45:05,981 --> 00:45:07,981 measurements, 22% of the 579 00:45:10,986 --> 00:45:13,386 american population and 28% of 580 00:45:15,357 --> 00:45:15,424 the american population 581 00:45:15,424 --> 00:45:16,392 . 582 00:45:16,392 --> 00:45:18,227 We are one in every four 583 00:45:18,227 --> 00:45:20,227 americans 584 00:45:20,596 --> 00:45:22,596 . 585 00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:25,498 Additionally we vote like 586 00:45:27,203 --> 00:45:27,837 everybody else in the 2022 587 00:45:27,837 --> 00:45:30,837 terms, the last time we 588 00:45:30,906 --> 00:45:34,276 received data we voted at the 589 00:45:34,276 --> 00:45:35,945 same rate as all other 590 00:45:35,945 --> 00:45:37,945 virginians. 591 00:45:39,849 --> 00:45:40,850 53.1 percent. 592 00:45:40,850 --> 00:45:43,850 However, despite our vote being 593 00:45:44,887 --> 00:45:45,788 alive and well, congress and 594 00:45:45,788 --> 00:45:48,188 many other institutions ignore 595 00:45:48,858 --> 00:45:49,725 the disability vote despite the 596 00:45:49,725 --> 00:45:50,693 promise of accessibility for 597 00:45:50,693 --> 00:45:53,930 all government programs to 598 00:45:56,799 --> 00:45:57,800 congress under funds many of 599 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,400 the provisions under the idea 600 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,502 including education which 601 00:45:59,502 --> 00:46:00,836 places a burden on local county 602 00:46:00,836 --> 00:46:03,236 governments like yourself to 603 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,639 fund the difference by 604 00:46:06,208 --> 00:46:07,243 supporting us today, you fight 605 00:46:07,243 --> 00:46:09,643 for prince william county's 606 00:46:10,946 --> 00:46:11,947 right to receive the funds from 607 00:46:11,947 --> 00:46:13,949 congress to ensure all disabled 608 00:46:13,949 --> 00:46:15,551 americans receive accessible 609 00:46:15,551 --> 00:46:17,551 services 610 00:46:17,753 --> 00:46:19,753 . 611 00:46:21,157 --> 00:46:24,930 Finally, I wanted to thank 612 00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:25,628 supervisor stuart meeting with 613 00:46:25,628 --> 00:46:26,562 region advocates 614 00:46:26,562 --> 00:46:28,562 . 615 00:46:34,103 --> 00:46:36,138 Rev up virginia is a statewide 616 00:46:36,138 --> 00:46:36,206 advocacy unit of organizations 617 00:46:36,206 --> 00:46:38,206 , 618 00:46:39,775 --> 00:46:41,775 disability rights organizations 619 00:46:41,944 --> 00:46:44,944 and voting rights to protect 620 00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:46,182 the disability vote and to 621 00:46:46,182 --> 00:46:48,250 ensure we keep voting the same 622 00:46:48,250 --> 00:46:50,850 rate as everybody else and 623 00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:51,787 protecting our right to the 624 00:46:51,787 --> 00:46:53,787 ballot. 625 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,224 Thank you so much and hope you 626 00:47:05,267 --> 00:47:06,100 have a wonderful day. 627 00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:06,168 And if I could on police chief 628 00:47:06,168 --> 00:47:06,869 and 629 00:47:06,869 --> 00:47:08,869 others associated with 630 00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:21,851 forensic science week. 631 00:47:21,851 --> 00:47:22,840 I knew the rest that you were 632 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,840 coming. 633 00:47:43,472 --> 00:47:44,140 My cure comes back up. 634 00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:44,807 We are here to recognize 635 00:47:44,807 --> 00:47:45,207 SEPTEMBER 2020 success 636 00:47:45,207 --> 00:47:47,207 forensic 637 00:47:52,715 --> 00:47:53,482 science week. 638 00:47:53,482 --> 00:47:54,250 Forensic science professionals 639 00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:55,184 play an essential role 640 00:47:55,184 --> 00:47:55,451 examining evidence and 641 00:47:55,451 --> 00:47:56,284 providing 642 00:47:56,284 --> 00:47:57,319 objective scientific 643 00:47:57,319 --> 00:47:58,200 information to investigators, 644 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:58,988 attorneys and the courts pick 645 00:47:58,988 --> 00:48:01,988 their work and help establish 646 00:48:08,798 --> 00:48:09,799 facts, identify individuals, 647 00:48:09,799 --> 00:48:10,833 connect evidence to cases and 648 00:48:10,833 --> 00:48:11,801 ultimately support unfair and 649 00:48:11,801 --> 00:48:12,434 effective justice system pick 650 00:48:12,434 --> 00:48:13,469 the prince william county 651 00:48:13,469 --> 00:48:14,403 police department is committed 652 00:48:14,403 --> 00:48:15,471 to using forensic science as a 653 00:48:15,471 --> 00:48:16,472 tool in investigating crime. 654 00:48:16,472 --> 00:48:17,339 The department works with 655 00:48:17,339 --> 00:48:19,739 local, state, and federal 656 00:48:22,211 --> 00:48:22,878 partners to build and maintain 657 00:48:22,878 --> 00:48:23,813 criminal databases involving 658 00:48:23,813 --> 00:48:25,614 dna, fingerprints and other 659 00:48:25,614 --> 00:48:26,615 forensic information. 660 00:48:26,615 --> 00:48:30,215 This week is an opportunity to 661 00:48:33,220 --> 00:48:34,230 recognize academic programs 662 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:35,240 researchers, scientists and 663 00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:36,250 professionals who continue to 664 00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:36,759 advance the many disciplines 665 00:48:36,759 --> 00:48:37,626 that make up forensic science 666 00:48:37,626 --> 00:48:38,727 with the principal them board 667 00:48:38,727 --> 00:48:41,127 of supervisors by proclaim 668 00:48:43,399 --> 00:48:45,399 SEPTEMBER 20 through SEPTEMBER 669 00:48:49,238 --> 00:48:49,905 26 as forensic science week. 670 00:48:49,905 --> 00:48:53,505 Would you or anyone else like 671 00:48:53,976 --> 00:48:55,976 to offer remarks? 672 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,749 >> captain heather Mclean. 673 00:49:00,749 --> 00:49:03,149 Thank you for recognizing 674 00:49:03,886 --> 00:49:05,886 SEPTEMBER 20 as forensic 675 00:49:08,357 --> 00:49:08,457 services week 676 00:49:08,457 --> 00:49:09,191 . 677 00:49:09,191 --> 00:49:12,791 With me today are members of 678 00:49:13,462 --> 00:49:14,163 our forensic services section. 679 00:49:14,163 --> 00:49:18,363 Members of the unit is not only 680 00:49:19,969 --> 00:49:20,102 respond to crime scenes 681 00:49:20,102 --> 00:49:20,569 , 682 00:49:20,569 --> 00:49:21,303 violent crimes. 683 00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:22,238 They investigate and evaluate 684 00:49:22,238 --> 00:49:23,720 and process evidence collected 685 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:23,806 by patrol officers and 686 00:49:23,806 --> 00:49:26,206 detectives and submitted to 687 00:49:26,475 --> 00:49:27,476 them. 688 00:49:27,476 --> 00:49:29,780 In JULY alone our fingerprint 689 00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:31,780 technicians evaluate 1500 690 00:49:32,615 --> 00:49:33,382 latent fingerprints. 691 00:49:33,382 --> 00:49:35,484 Our photo lab provided 692 00:49:35,484 --> 00:49:37,884 photographs for 200 cases for 693 00:49:38,687 --> 00:49:39,355 prosecution. 694 00:49:39,355 --> 00:49:42,355 Rcs I process 49 cases of 695 00:49:45,161 --> 00:49:46,950 evidence on spin 240 hours on 696 00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:46,729 processing and the respondent a 697 00:49:46,729 --> 00:49:49,729 major crime scenes as well 698 00:49:51,267 --> 00:49:52,334 regard to forensic examiners 699 00:49:52,334 --> 00:49:55,334 analyzed 13 tb the evidence and 700 00:49:56,806 --> 00:49:57,773 that is just in one month ago 701 00:49:57,773 --> 00:49:58,474 members are scientists pick 702 00:49:58,474 --> 00:49:59,308 they work in their labs, they 703 00:49:59,308 --> 00:50:00,743 conduct their research and the 704 00:50:00,743 --> 00:50:03,646 best practices and they work 705 00:50:03,646 --> 00:50:04,613 tirelessly to link evidence to 706 00:50:04,613 --> 00:50:07,130 crimes to support successful 707 00:50:10,352 --> 00:50:11,200 prosecution thank you for 708 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,788 recognizing their entire 709 00:50:12,788 --> 00:50:14,788 community 710 00:50:18,894 --> 00:50:20,620 . 711 00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:20,930 >> Chair Deshundra: a reminder 712 00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:22,832 we are going to be taking 713 00:50:22,832 --> 00:50:23,532 photos at the end. 714 00:50:23,532 --> 00:50:27,732 I have a couple of more love. 715 00:50:28,671 --> 00:50:29,371 I have three more left. 716 00:50:29,371 --> 00:50:30,372 Like for everyone associated 717 00:50:30,372 --> 00:50:32,772 with childhood cancer awareness 718 00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:40,783 to please step forward. 719 00:50:40,783 --> 00:50:43,183 >> thank you MADAM Chair. 720 00:50:45,187 --> 00:50:45,855 Us those involved make their 721 00:50:45,855 --> 00:50:46,522 way forward, I want to thank 722 00:50:46,522 --> 00:50:48,691 the chief of staff surge my 723 00:50:48,691 --> 00:50:50,691 colleagues corresponding 724 00:50:51,293 --> 00:50:53,693 offices for your compassion, 725 00:50:58,467 --> 00:50:59,200 collaboration pick many of you 726 00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,635 don't know, but chelsea is my 727 00:50:59,635 --> 00:51:00,469 chief of staff. 728 00:51:00,469 --> 00:51:04,690 And this little guy you see 729 00:51:06,942 --> 00:51:07,877 here is our beloved joshua who 730 00:51:07,877 --> 00:51:08,176 not only had cancer, fought it 731 00:51:08,176 --> 00:51:08,911 and beat it. 732 00:51:08,911 --> 00:51:11,311 Ain't that right, buddy? 733 00:51:11,714 --> 00:51:12,381 [Applause] 734 00:51:12,381 --> 00:51:13,382 Until they always that you 735 00:51:13,382 --> 00:51:14,283 truly don't know how something 736 00:51:14,283 --> 00:51:17,753 is going to impact you until it 737 00:51:17,753 --> 00:51:18,788 hits home. 738 00:51:18,788 --> 00:51:19,488 My staff are an extension of my 739 00:51:19,488 --> 00:51:21,323 family for and for a year and 740 00:51:21,323 --> 00:51:22,240 and a half chelsea and her 741 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,240 family have gone through so 742 00:51:25,895 --> 00:51:26,529 much. 743 00:51:26,529 --> 00:51:27,429 I one acknowledged chelsea 744 00:51:27,429 --> 00:51:29,765 because she is a rock star 745 00:51:29,765 --> 00:51:33,365 supermom not only was she an 746 00:51:33,803 --> 00:51:34,360 advocate for her child 747 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,370 , she was 748 00:51:35,370 --> 00:51:38,637 a researcher, she was a doctor, 749 00:51:39,241 --> 00:51:40,420 she was a nurse and a caregiver 750 00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:40,976 but through all of that she 751 00:51:40,976 --> 00:51:42,110 never once let anything in the 752 00:51:42,110 --> 00:51:45,110 office fall through the cracks. 753 00:51:46,182 --> 00:51:47,950 That is for you. 754 00:51:47,950 --> 00:51:50,950 So thank you for being 755 00:51:52,655 --> 00:51:53,589 steadfast in your faith. 756 00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:55,989 For representing our office 757 00:51:56,910 --> 00:51:58,491 with dignity throughout this 758 00:52:01,964 --> 00:52:02,965 entire ordeal into your 759 00:52:02,965 --> 00:52:03,632 colleagues and corresponding 760 00:52:03,632 --> 00:52:04,467 staff, thank you for your 761 00:52:04,467 --> 00:52:06,680 prayers throughout this 762 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,690 difficult time. 763 00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:07,736 We recognize SEPTEMBER as 764 00:52:07,736 --> 00:52:09,736 childhood cancer awareness 765 00:52:10,372 --> 00:52:11,373 month. 766 00:52:11,373 --> 00:52:12,374 Time to honor children and 767 00:52:12,374 --> 00:52:12,942 families whose lives have been 768 00:52:12,942 --> 00:52:14,643 affected by cancer and 769 00:52:14,643 --> 00:52:15,611 recognize the growing number of 770 00:52:15,611 --> 00:52:16,312 young survivors who continue to 771 00:52:16,312 --> 00:52:18,712 face challenges long after 772 00:52:19,982 --> 00:52:20,649 treatment ends for families a 773 00:52:20,649 --> 00:52:22,649 childhood cancer diagnosis 774 00:52:22,785 --> 00:52:22,885 changes everything 775 00:52:22,885 --> 00:52:23,619 . 776 00:52:23,619 --> 00:52:26,619 It brings fear and uncertainty 777 00:52:27,156 --> 00:52:27,723 but it reveals extraordinary 778 00:52:27,723 --> 00:52:28,390 courage, resilience and 779 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:30,390 strength. 780 00:52:32,962 --> 00:52:33,620 We recognize the parents 781 00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:34,196 , 782 00:52:34,196 --> 00:52:36,196 siblings, caregivers, doctors, 783 00:52:36,298 --> 00:52:37,233 nurses, researchers and 784 00:52:37,233 --> 00:52:37,900 advocates who stand beside the 785 00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:39,900 children and families 786 00:52:40,803 --> 00:52:40,870 throughout their journey 787 00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:42,870 . 788 00:52:43,806 --> 00:52:44,507 We also want to extend 789 00:52:44,507 --> 00:52:46,907 recognition to those who 790 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:47,843 continue to research into the 791 00:52:47,843 --> 00:52:49,778 causes of childhood cancer in 792 00:52:49,778 --> 00:52:50,646 the development of more 793 00:52:50,646 --> 00:52:52,646 effective treatments are 794 00:52:52,715 --> 00:52:56,315 essential so every child is a 795 00:52:56,385 --> 00:52:56,986 opportunity to grow up and live 796 00:52:56,986 --> 00:52:58,187 a long and healthy life. 797 00:52:58,187 --> 00:53:01,187 On behalf of the supervisors, 798 00:53:02,570 --> 00:53:03,325 we proudly proclaim some number 799 00:53:03,325 --> 00:53:05,325 20 success childhood cancer 800 00:53:05,327 --> 00:53:05,994 awareness month let us raise 801 00:53:05,994 --> 00:53:07,994 awareness, support affected 802 00:53:08,297 --> 00:53:10,800 families, honor those we lost 803 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,969 work toward a future where no 804 00:53:13,969 --> 00:53:16,969 child has to face cancer. 805 00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:28,751 Thank you. 806 00:53:28,751 --> 00:53:30,751 >> good afternoon. 807 00:53:31,921 --> 00:53:32,822 I want to echo everything said. 808 00:53:32,822 --> 00:53:34,757 I appreciate the love, prayers 809 00:53:34,757 --> 00:53:38,357 and support from each and every 810 00:53:39,261 --> 00:53:39,929 one of you all glass SEPTEMBER 811 00:53:39,929 --> 00:53:41,831 my family and I came for child 812 00:53:41,831 --> 00:53:44,231 cancer awareness month and 813 00:53:48,971 --> 00:53:49,972 joshua was in remission. 814 00:53:49,972 --> 00:53:50,973 We believe the hardest part of 815 00:53:50,973 --> 00:53:51,707 this battle was behind us pick 816 00:53:51,707 --> 00:53:52,575 three weeks later his cancer 817 00:53:52,575 --> 00:53:55,440 came back for the third time. 818 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:55,878 Joshua had leukemia. 819 00:53:55,878 --> 00:53:58,878 One of the most aggressive 820 00:53:58,948 --> 00:53:59,815 cancers a child can face when 821 00:53:59,815 --> 00:54:03,415 he relapsed there was no second 822 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,720 line treatment waiting for him 823 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:05,621 we were in uncharted territory 824 00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:06,221 with few options and no 825 00:54:06,221 --> 00:54:06,589 guarantee any of them would 826 00:54:06,589 --> 00:54:08,589 work. 827 00:54:10,759 --> 00:54:10,826 And yet here he is 828 00:54:10,826 --> 00:54:12,826 . 829 00:54:14,196 --> 00:54:14,997 [Applause] 830 00:54:14,997 --> 00:54:17,997 The little boy standing beside 831 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,900 me has endured more than most 832 00:54:22,505 --> 00:54:23,172 adults ever will. 833 00:54:23,172 --> 00:54:24,172 He is been told the treatment 834 00:54:24,172 --> 00:54:26,542 didn't work and face to relapse 835 00:54:26,542 --> 00:54:27,510 when there was no roadmap and 836 00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:28,277 he is undergone treatments that 837 00:54:28,277 --> 00:54:30,546 have never been used in this 838 00:54:30,546 --> 00:54:31,580 way for a child before pick in 839 00:54:31,580 --> 00:54:35,180 two days josh will have another 840 00:54:35,384 --> 00:54:36,719 scan pick last year taught me 841 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,486 how quickly life can change but 842 00:54:37,486 --> 00:54:38,454 it taught me to appreciate what 843 00:54:38,454 --> 00:54:40,322 we have including sitting in 844 00:54:40,322 --> 00:54:41,791 traffic or any other minor 845 00:54:41,791 --> 00:54:41,857 inconvenience 846 00:54:41,857 --> 00:54:43,793 . 847 00:54:43,793 --> 00:54:44,426 It's nothing. 848 00:54:44,426 --> 00:54:47,426 There been moments in this 849 00:54:48,731 --> 00:54:49,331 journey when medicine had no 850 00:54:49,331 --> 00:54:50,166 answers in those moments my 851 00:54:50,166 --> 00:54:50,432 faith wasn't just the 852 00:54:50,432 --> 00:54:52,432 platitude. 853 00:54:54,436 --> 00:54:55,437 It wasn't attending I wasn't 854 00:54:55,437 --> 00:54:56,438 afraid or convincing myself 855 00:54:56,438 --> 00:54:56,806 everything would turn out the 856 00:54:56,806 --> 00:54:57,573 way it I wanted. 857 00:54:57,573 --> 00:55:01,173 It was knowing GOD was still 858 00:55:01,877 --> 00:55:02,745 GOD even when I couldn't see 859 00:55:02,745 --> 00:55:03,646 what came next and today josh 860 00:55:03,646 --> 00:55:04,680 is standing beside me and I 861 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,347 thank GOD for that every single 862 00:55:05,347 --> 00:55:05,581 day but his story is also white 863 00:55:05,581 --> 00:55:07,449 we are 864 00:55:07,449 --> 00:55:08,450 doing here matters. 865 00:55:08,450 --> 00:55:12,650 His story is nothing short of a 866 00:55:13,122 --> 00:55:13,789 miracle. 867 00:55:13,789 --> 00:55:14,790 A few days ago a friend of 868 00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:15,691 ours, little boy named callan, 869 00:55:15,691 --> 00:55:18,691 passed away from the same 870 00:55:19,762 --> 00:55:20,763 cancer josh had. 871 00:55:20,763 --> 00:55:21,764 His loss is a heartbreaking 872 00:55:21,764 --> 00:55:22,765 reminder for too many childhood 873 00:55:22,765 --> 00:55:26,365 cancers but medicine is so much 874 00:55:26,669 --> 00:55:27,436 further to go so if you are 875 00:55:27,436 --> 00:55:28,370 wondering what you can do start 876 00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:29,205 by remembering our children 877 00:55:29,205 --> 00:55:29,839 beyond today's meeting. 878 00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:30,706 Pray for them, for their 879 00:55:30,706 --> 00:55:31,340 families, doctors and 880 00:55:31,340 --> 00:55:33,750 researchers working to give 881 00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:33,642 them another option. 882 00:55:33,642 --> 00:55:35,911 Go golden SEPTEMBER when 883 00:55:35,911 --> 00:55:36,111 someone asks you why, tell 884 00:55:36,111 --> 00:55:36,812 them. 885 00:55:36,812 --> 00:55:38,414 Support childhood cancer 886 00:55:38,414 --> 00:55:39,810 research. 887 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:41,750 Give blood, joined the bone 888 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:42,618 marrow transplant, support 889 00:55:42,618 --> 00:55:45,180 families whose lives have 890 00:55:50,626 --> 00:55:51,260 suddenly become hospital rooms, 891 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:52,161 appointments and scans. 892 00:55:52,161 --> 00:55:52,827 Don't look away simply because 893 00:55:52,827 --> 00:55:53,262 childhood cancer is difficult 894 00:55:53,262 --> 00:55:54,163 to talk about. 895 00:55:54,163 --> 00:55:54,897 Awareness matters because 896 00:55:54,897 --> 00:55:57,297 awareness matters quickly sale 897 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,334 the time that older and are our 898 00:55:58,334 --> 00:55:59,201 future and into days we will 899 00:55:59,201 --> 00:56:01,637 walk into another scan with 900 00:56:01,637 --> 00:56:01,770 confidence 901 00:56:01,770 --> 00:56:02,738 . 902 00:56:02,738 --> 00:56:03,372 I cannot control what it says 903 00:56:03,372 --> 00:56:04,373 but I know who carried us this 904 00:56:04,373 --> 00:56:08,573 far so we will pray we will 905 00:56:10,346 --> 00:56:10,980 walk in faith and be grateful 906 00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:11,514 of the tremendous gift of 907 00:56:11,514 --> 00:56:12,414 having josh here today. 908 00:56:12,414 --> 00:56:15,384 For talent, joshua and every 909 00:56:15,384 --> 00:56:16,850 child waiting for their 910 00:56:16,850 --> 00:56:16,952 miracle, thank you for making 911 00:56:16,952 --> 00:56:19,952 sure childhood cancer is not 912 00:56:39,675 --> 00:56:40,843 forgotten. 913 00:56:40,843 --> 00:56:43,243 >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone 914 00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:44,680 associated with item 5 I 915 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,648 , 916 00:56:45,648 --> 00:56:46,382 sickle cell awareness month, 917 00:56:46,382 --> 00:56:49,382 would you please come forward 918 00:57:30,659 --> 00:57:31,660 to. 919 00:57:31,660 --> 00:57:35,260 Spoon sickle cell disease is a 920 00:57:35,965 --> 00:57:36,866 chronic and deliberate dating 921 00:57:36,866 --> 00:57:37,867 condition that affects more 922 00:57:37,867 --> 00:57:37,932 than 100,000 americans 923 00:57:37,932 --> 00:57:39,932 . 924 00:57:41,437 --> 00:57:42,304 While they can affect people 925 00:57:42,304 --> 00:57:43,380 from any background that 926 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:45,438 impacts individuals of african 927 00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:47,810 descent as well as people of 928 00:57:47,810 --> 00:57:50,210 hispanic, south asian, southern 929 00:57:53,516 --> 00:57:54,150 european and middle eastern 930 00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:55,170 ancestry. 931 00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:55,718 Awareness and early testing are 932 00:57:55,718 --> 00:57:56,652 important because individuals 933 00:57:56,652 --> 00:57:59,652 who carried the sickle cell 934 00:57:59,789 --> 00:58:00,389 trait MAY pass the disease on 935 00:58:00,389 --> 00:58:01,190 to the children. 936 00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:03,159 Knowing your sickle cell trait 937 00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:04,393 status can help individuals 938 00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:06,793 make informed decisions about 939 00:58:08,497 --> 00:58:09,632 their health and futures we 940 00:58:09,632 --> 00:58:11,333 want to highlight the critical 941 00:58:11,333 --> 00:58:12,268 need for blood donations many 942 00:58:12,268 --> 00:58:14,668 individuals living with sickle 943 00:58:15,538 --> 00:58:17,938 cell require blood transfusions 944 00:58:20,176 --> 00:58:20,276 to manage serious conditions 945 00:58:20,276 --> 00:58:20,575 . 946 00:58:20,575 --> 00:58:21,143 I am sorry. 947 00:58:21,143 --> 00:58:24,143 If we could cut the 948 00:58:25,981 --> 00:58:27,981 noise. 949 00:58:30,986 --> 00:58:32,986 Excuse me. 950 00:58:33,456 --> 00:58:34,890 We also want to highlight the 951 00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:36,489 critical need for blood 952 00:58:41,664 --> 00:58:42,698 donations many individuals 953 00:58:42,698 --> 00:58:43,432 require blood transfusions to 954 00:58:43,432 --> 00:58:44,300 manage serious complications 955 00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:46,700 work sometimes multiple times 956 00:58:46,969 --> 00:58:47,636 each year throughout their 957 00:58:47,636 --> 00:58:48,971 lives by donating blood can 958 00:58:48,971 --> 00:58:49,738 make a direct and meaningful 959 00:58:49,738 --> 00:58:51,974 difference for these patients, 960 00:58:51,974 --> 00:58:54,310 therefore today the board of 961 00:58:54,310 --> 00:58:56,310 supervisors by proclaim 962 00:59:00,182 --> 00:59:00,683 SEPTEMBER 2026 sickle cell 963 00:59:00,683 --> 00:59:01,717 awareness month. 964 00:59:01,717 --> 00:59:04,117 For greater awareness and 965 00:59:04,453 --> 00:59:05,287 community support we can help 966 00:59:05,287 --> 00:59:08,287 improve the lives of those 967 00:59:08,557 --> 00:59:08,757 affected by sickle cell disease 968 00:59:08,757 --> 00:59:09,291 . 969 00:59:09,291 --> 00:59:12,291 Would you like to offer 970 00:59:14,263 --> 00:59:15,300 remarks? 971 00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:15,998 >> good afternoon and thank you 972 00:59:15,998 --> 00:59:17,998 MADAM Chair. 973 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,680 I would like to thank all of 974 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,468 the board members supporting 975 00:59:23,405 --> 00:59:25,805 this big supervisor angry, 976 00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:30,210 boddye, stuart and bailey. 977 00:59:30,379 --> 00:59:33,979 As well as standing with me. 978 00:59:34,450 --> 00:59:34,583 And community partners 979 00:59:34,583 --> 00:59:35,484 . 980 00:59:35,484 --> 00:59:36,318 Northern virginia medical 981 00:59:36,318 --> 00:59:38,718 center, prince william county 982 00:59:39,155 --> 00:59:42,155 delta sigma sorority inc., top 983 00:59:43,492 --> 00:59:44,393 ladies and distinction, dale 984 00:59:44,393 --> 00:59:46,362 said he prince william county 985 00:59:46,362 --> 00:59:48,864 chapter and our dear friend 986 00:59:48,864 --> 00:59:50,864 joshua king 987 00:59:53,669 --> 00:59:54,236 . 988 00:59:54,236 --> 00:59:56,636 Sickle cell disease has 989 00:59:56,704 --> 00:59:58,908 impacted many families they 990 00:59:58,908 --> 00:59:59,642 live with it every day. 991 00:59:59,642 --> 01:00:03,242 Today we carry forward of our 992 01:00:03,245 --> 01:00:06,845 late niece who passed away from 993 01:00:08,350 --> 01:00:09,318 sickle cell disease in 2021 and 994 01:00:09,318 --> 01:00:09,718 or vision to support families, 995 01:00:09,718 --> 01:00:09,952 raise awareness, 996 01:00:09,952 --> 01:00:10,820 provide 997 01:00:10,820 --> 01:00:12,820 education resources, 998 01:00:13,122 --> 01:00:15,522 encouraging genetic testing and 999 01:00:15,658 --> 01:00:16,559 advocate for better care 1000 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:18,559 . 1001 01:00:20,796 --> 01:00:21,664 prince wilden county virginia 1002 01:00:21,664 --> 01:00:22,665 ranks in the top three 1003 01:00:22,665 --> 01:00:23,299 jurisdictions in the state of 1004 01:00:23,299 --> 01:00:25,699 virginia for sickle cell 1005 01:00:26,902 --> 01:00:27,837 disease pick with the passage 1006 01:00:27,837 --> 01:00:28,804 of the queen candace hope for 1007 01:00:28,804 --> 01:00:30,606 sickle cell act, named in 1008 01:00:30,606 --> 01:00:33,606 memory of the late 15-year-old 1009 01:00:35,544 --> 01:00:36,579 candace king, a prince william 1010 01:00:36,579 --> 01:00:37,580 county resident who died from 1011 01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:39,515 complications of sickle cell 1012 01:00:39,515 --> 01:00:42,515 disease, we ask prince william 1013 01:00:42,785 --> 01:00:43,519 county to share awareness, 1014 01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:45,321 messages sent to partner with 1015 01:00:45,321 --> 01:00:48,524 the heart of gold to connect 1016 01:00:48,524 --> 01:00:50,924 residents and families with 1017 01:00:50,926 --> 01:00:51,894 information and resources 1018 01:00:51,894 --> 01:00:54,663 recall of you received a gift 1019 01:00:54,663 --> 01:00:58,263 back from us today that pretty 1020 01:00:59,340 --> 01:00:59,135 purple bag 1021 01:00:59,135 --> 01:00:59,869 . 1022 01:00:59,869 --> 01:01:00,769 Both in english and spanish for 1023 01:01:00,769 --> 01:01:03,769 the residents of prince william 1024 01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:05,107 county 1025 01:01:05,107 --> 01:01:05,841 . 1026 01:01:05,841 --> 01:01:06,675 Together prince william county 1027 01:01:06,675 --> 01:01:10,875 can be a model for what it 1028 01:01:11,213 --> 01:01:11,847 means to not only raise 1029 01:01:11,847 --> 01:01:13,849 awareness but take action, 1030 01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:14,850 stand with sickle cell warriors 1031 01:01:14,850 --> 01:01:16,452 and help change the future for 1032 01:01:16,452 --> 01:01:18,452 generations to come 1033 01:01:19,688 --> 01:01:20,389 . 1034 01:01:20,389 --> 01:01:21,290 Thank you for your leadership 1035 01:01:21,290 --> 01:01:23,192 in partnership and for this 1036 01:01:23,192 --> 01:01:25,192 proclamation. 1037 01:01:28,631 --> 01:01:30,598 [Applause] 1038 01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:32,598 >> good afternoon. 1039 01:01:35,370 --> 01:01:35,905 My name is joshua king pick up 1040 01:01:35,905 --> 01:01:36,472 one of think the chair and 1041 01:01:36,472 --> 01:01:39,472 board for giving me an 1042 01:01:39,742 --> 01:01:40,476 opportunity to speak. 1043 01:01:40,476 --> 01:01:41,442 On behalf of my wife it could 1044 01:01:41,442 --> 01:01:42,778 not be here in my candace who 1045 01:01:42,778 --> 01:01:45,314 passed away OCTOBER fourth of 1046 01:01:45,314 --> 01:01:48,314 last year from sickle cell. 1047 01:01:48,684 --> 01:01:50,418 I will be brief and say thank 1048 01:01:50,418 --> 01:01:52,421 you guys for this proclamation 1049 01:01:52,421 --> 01:01:55,421 thank you for the support 1050 01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:56,792 you've given my wife and i 1051 01:01:56,792 --> 01:01:59,792 candace birthdays this month on 1052 01:02:00,950 --> 01:02:03,950 the 20th we are still 1053 01:02:03,365 --> 01:02:03,432 struggling 1054 01:02:03,432 --> 01:02:05,432 . 1055 01:02:08,437 --> 01:02:09,104 We cry every day. 1056 01:02:09,104 --> 01:02:12,704 Sickle cell is real and there 1057 01:02:13,409 --> 01:02:18,209 are cures we need to do all we 1058 01:02:20,115 --> 01:02:20,749 can to help and instead of my 1059 01:02:20,749 --> 01:02:21,617 wife and I sitting in bed 1060 01:02:21,617 --> 01:02:22,284 crying every day, we are out 1061 01:02:22,284 --> 01:02:24,453 here standing with everyone 1062 01:02:24,453 --> 01:02:25,870 else who needs help. 1063 01:02:25,870 --> 01:02:27,656 Her daughter was a strong 1064 01:02:27,656 --> 01:02:30,659 sickle cell warrior and we are 1065 01:02:30,659 --> 01:02:31,594 doing it for her and us to get 1066 01:02:31,594 --> 01:02:35,194 hurts every time we speak about 1067 01:02:35,264 --> 01:02:36,198 this and stand up, but we know 1068 01:02:36,198 --> 01:02:36,732 there is a cure and that we can 1069 01:02:36,732 --> 01:02:36,799 do more 1070 01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:38,799 . 1071 01:02:39,335 --> 01:02:42,338 I want to thank the governor 1072 01:02:42,338 --> 01:02:42,938 for passing the laws and 1073 01:02:42,938 --> 01:02:44,206 everyone doing the work. 1074 01:02:44,206 --> 01:02:47,806 But we are not there yet. 1075 01:02:49,512 --> 01:02:50,479 We have a long way to go. 1076 01:02:50,479 --> 01:02:51,847 Please come out on the 26. 1077 01:02:51,847 --> 01:02:55,500 We will be at cogan high school 1078 01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:55,251 doing a sickle cell awareness 1079 01:02:55,251 --> 01:02:56,850 walk. 1080 01:02:56,850 --> 01:02:59,685 Come out and support and help 1081 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:01,190 friends and learn something 1082 01:03:01,190 --> 01:03:01,824 . 1083 01:03:01,824 --> 01:03:02,391 That is all I have. 1084 01:03:02,391 --> 01:03:03,192 Thank you for the time. 1085 01:03:03,192 --> 01:03:05,592 Keep us in prayer. 1086 01:03:20,509 --> 01:03:22,509 Thank you. 1087 01:03:22,978 --> 01:03:23,879 >> Chair Deshundra: we will 1088 01:03:23,879 --> 01:03:25,800 take photos everyone at the 1089 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,800 end. 1090 01:03:34,723 --> 01:03:35,658 We have one more left. 1091 01:03:35,658 --> 01:03:36,792 And people associated with 1092 01:03:36,792 --> 01:03:40,392 junior league and find the good 1093 01:04:30,312 --> 01:04:32,712 they can come down. 1094 01:04:34,850 --> 01:04:35,718 We are proud to recognize find 1095 01:04:35,718 --> 01:04:37,453 the good day, a celebration of 1096 01:04:37,453 --> 01:04:38,120 kindness, compassion, 1097 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,520 volunteerism and the many 1098 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,610 positive things happening 1099 01:04:46,610 --> 01:04:46,796 throughout our community. 1100 01:04:46,796 --> 01:04:47,696 Observed SEPTEMBER 17, find the 1101 01:04:47,696 --> 01:04:48,597 good day encourages each of us 1102 01:04:48,597 --> 01:04:52,197 to pause and recognize the good 1103 01:04:56,605 --> 01:04:57,239 around us pick whether it is a 1104 01:04:57,239 --> 01:04:58,174 neighbor lending a helping 1105 01:04:58,174 --> 01:04:59,241 hand, volunteer giving their 1106 01:04:59,241 --> 01:05:00,242 time or someone simply taking a 1107 01:05:00,242 --> 01:05:01,744 moment to make another person's 1108 01:05:01,744 --> 01:05:02,778 day brighter. 1109 01:05:02,778 --> 01:05:03,479 We are pleased to recognize the 1110 01:05:03,479 --> 01:05:04,446 important work of the junior 1111 01:05:04,446 --> 01:05:06,846 league of northern virginia 1112 01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:08,617 which has a long-standing 1113 01:05:08,617 --> 01:05:09,618 commitment to volunteerism 1114 01:05:09,618 --> 01:05:10,653 empower women commit a violent 1115 01:05:10,653 --> 01:05:11,253 community leadership, and 1116 01:05:11,253 --> 01:05:13,253 creating full meaningful 1117 01:05:14,256 --> 01:05:15,257 lasting change. 1118 01:05:15,257 --> 01:05:18,257 The board of supervisors hereby 1119 01:05:20,329 --> 01:05:20,696 proclaim SEPTEMBER 7 -- 17 is 1120 01:05:20,696 --> 01:05:20,996 find a good day. 1121 01:05:20,996 --> 01:05:22,231 Et's take 1122 01:05:22,231 --> 01:05:23,799 the opportunity to recognize 1123 01:05:23,799 --> 01:05:27,399 the good to come share the 1124 01:05:28,137 --> 01:05:29,237 good, most importantly to be 1125 01:05:29,237 --> 01:05:31,307 the good in our community. 1126 01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:34,307 Someone like to offer some 1127 01:05:36,912 --> 01:05:37,913 remarks? 1128 01:05:37,913 --> 01:05:40,382 >> my name is karen kennedy and 1129 01:05:40,382 --> 01:05:40,516 I'm the advocacy manager 1130 01:05:40,516 --> 01:05:41,150 . 1131 01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:44,750 We would like to thank the 1132 01:05:46,388 --> 01:05:46,922 chair members of the board or 1133 01:05:46,922 --> 01:05:49,322 honoring us with this 1134 01:05:50,693 --> 01:05:51,727 proclamation and remind folks 1135 01:05:51,727 --> 01:05:53,529 these times and especially now 1136 01:05:53,529 --> 01:05:54,196 it is so important to look 1137 01:05:54,196 --> 01:05:55,498 community and think of and do 1138 01:05:55,498 --> 01:05:56,198 all the things we can delve 1139 01:05:56,198 --> 01:05:57,233 each other. 1140 01:05:57,233 --> 01:06:01,433 With that being said, I want to 1141 01:06:01,537 --> 01:06:02,171 thank you on behalf of the 1142 01:06:02,171 --> 01:06:03,205 northern virginia league 1143 01:06:03,205 --> 01:06:05,205 . 1144 01:06:08,377 --> 01:06:09,445 Thank you. 1145 01:06:09,445 --> 01:06:10,146 >> Chair Deshundra: to my 1146 01:06:10,146 --> 01:06:11,480 colleagues on the dais, we are 1147 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,880 going to take roughly 10 1148 01:06:16,510 --> 01:06:16,218 minutes for recess 1149 01:06:16,218 --> 01:06:16,952 . 1150 01:06:16,952 --> 01:06:17,820 I say roughly because when we 1151 01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:21,420 are done with the last picture 1152 01:13:39,957 --> 01:13:41,957 recess. 1153 01:13:54,838 --> 01:13:55,939 Graduations in retirement. 1154 01:13:55,939 --> 01:13:58,575 >> Chair Deshundra: we love you 1155 01:13:58,575 --> 01:13:59,743 too. 1156 01:13:59,743 --> 01:14:02,143 We love you more. 1157 01:14:04,381 --> 01:14:07,584 But I want to talk about is the 1158 01:14:07,584 --> 01:14:09,984 neabsco greenway and completed. 1159 01:14:11,955 --> 01:14:12,723 Because we are saying for well, 1160 01:14:12,723 --> 01:14:15,726 we lost our great men, and 1161 01:14:15,726 --> 01:14:19,326 parks director who we are going 1162 01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:22,530 to give prince william county 1163 01:14:22,633 --> 01:14:23,300 is happening down here. 1164 01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:26,300 We built managers and city 1165 01:14:27,471 --> 01:14:28,172 managers everywhere. 1166 01:14:28,172 --> 01:14:31,441 He went on to be the city 1167 01:14:31,441 --> 01:14:33,441 manager there. 1168 01:14:34,778 --> 01:14:35,511 But he was able to get my 1169 01:14:35,511 --> 01:14:38,511 greenway come extended for the 1170 01:14:38,615 --> 01:14:40,517 10 miles and some beta see that 1171 01:14:40,517 --> 01:14:43,487 we been working on the since 1172 01:14:43,487 --> 01:14:44,521 2019. 1173 01:14:44,521 --> 01:14:48,721 We still love steps to go but 1174 01:14:49,660 --> 01:14:53,860 this is a great lead from when 1175 01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:55,799 I think the team in their parks 1176 01:14:55,799 --> 01:14:58,799 chief was there, chris shorter 1177 01:15:04,575 --> 01:15:07,575 was there we represented down 1178 01:15:09,313 --> 01:15:09,913 there to see our guy off pick 1179 01:15:09,913 --> 01:15:10,481 him want to thank him and his 1180 01:15:10,481 --> 01:15:10,848 team for pulling this last 1181 01:15:10,848 --> 01:15:12,848 piece 1182 01:15:15,819 --> 01:15:17,321 . 1183 01:15:17,321 --> 01:15:17,955 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 1184 01:15:17,955 --> 01:15:18,822 If we can go ahead and take our 1185 01:15:18,822 --> 01:15:21,222 vote on those items 1186 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,320 . 1187 01:15:32,169 --> 01:15:32,302 >> vote unanimous 1188 01:15:32,302 --> 01:15:33,470 . 1189 01:15:33,470 --> 01:15:35,239 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 1190 01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:37,974 boddye, you pulled off at 60 1191 01:15:37,974 --> 01:15:42,174 and are who do you have any 1192 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:43,212 questions? 1193 01:15:43,212 --> 01:15:46,212 >> Kenny Boddye: these are mou 1194 01:15:48,619 --> 01:15:49,586 with potomac mills one is about 1195 01:15:49,586 --> 01:15:50,487 the security cameras and images 1196 01:15:50,487 --> 01:15:51,155 on the other is about a drone 1197 01:15:51,155 --> 01:15:53,155 program. 1198 01:15:54,424 --> 01:15:54,525 Wanted to ask the chief 1199 01:15:54,525 --> 01:15:56,525 . 1200 01:16:03,367 --> 01:16:04,234 MRS. Binet quickly evolving 1201 01:16:04,234 --> 01:16:05,269 situation for both of the 1202 01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:05,836 community but in the broader 1203 01:16:05,836 --> 01:16:06,402 conversation around 1204 01:16:06,402 --> 01:16:06,637 surveillance versus public 1205 01:16:06,637 --> 01:16:08,637 safety. 1206 01:16:09,807 --> 01:16:12,442 I wanted to call the chief up 1207 01:16:12,442 --> 01:16:14,645 about some of these issues. 1208 01:16:14,645 --> 01:16:18,845 I wanted to ask you first about 1209 01:16:19,349 --> 01:16:21,349 60 first. 1210 01:16:22,186 --> 01:16:24,755 Can you explain what the 1211 01:16:24,755 --> 01:16:28,355 sharing of the cameras and what 1212 01:16:28,659 --> 01:16:29,293 have you and how it would be 1213 01:16:29,293 --> 01:16:31,693 protected with the public 1214 01:16:33,297 --> 01:16:35,566 safety benefit would be? 1215 01:16:35,566 --> 01:16:35,699 >> I'm unusual for police 1216 01:16:35,699 --> 01:16:37,699 . 1217 01:16:41,238 --> 01:16:42,239 Thank you for those questions. 1218 01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:43,273 Before I get begin 1 agree with 1219 01:16:43,273 --> 01:16:46,273 supervisor angry that month is 1220 01:16:49,246 --> 01:16:51,646 also my favorite chief. 1221 01:16:58,755 --> 01:16:59,522 >> shots fired in the chambers. 1222 01:16:59,522 --> 01:17:00,724 Spoke one of the things we have 1223 01:17:00,724 --> 01:17:01,558 is an excellent relationship 1224 01:17:01,558 --> 01:17:02,326 between the police department 1225 01:17:02,326 --> 01:17:05,926 and fire department in one of 1226 01:17:05,996 --> 01:17:06,864 those reasons is because on the 1227 01:17:06,864 --> 01:17:07,865 49 years of dedicated service 1228 01:17:07,865 --> 01:17:11,868 by that person and so I wish 1229 01:17:11,868 --> 01:17:12,503 him the best in his retirement. 1230 01:17:12,503 --> 01:17:14,903 Supervisor boddye, on the 1231 01:17:17,307 --> 01:17:17,975 digital images we are getting, 1232 01:17:17,975 --> 01:17:19,900 these are only live real-time 1233 01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:22,609 images from some of the cameras 1234 01:17:23,347 --> 01:17:24,181 here GOD for bid we had an 1235 01:17:24,181 --> 01:17:24,848 active violent situation. 1236 01:17:24,848 --> 01:17:28,919 We would be able to tap into 1237 01:17:28,919 --> 01:17:31,919 those for any historical camera 1238 01:17:33,423 --> 01:17:34,391 images we would have to still 1239 01:17:34,391 --> 01:17:35,325 go through the court process to 1240 01:17:35,325 --> 01:17:37,325 get those images. 1241 01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:40,197 >> Kenny Boddye: the video 1242 01:17:40,197 --> 01:17:41,310 sharing relies on software. 1243 01:17:41,310 --> 01:17:41,832 That the software platform 1244 01:17:41,832 --> 01:17:42,132 include automated license plate 1245 01:17:42,132 --> 01:17:44,132 recognition. 1246 01:17:45,936 --> 01:17:46,703 If so, do they talk about that. 1247 01:17:46,703 --> 01:17:50,303 And in talk about that balance? 1248 01:17:50,674 --> 01:17:53,674 >> we don't have any facial 1249 01:17:58,916 --> 01:18:00,217 recognition so no on that. 1250 01:18:00,217 --> 01:18:00,818 We have automated license plate 1251 01:18:00,818 --> 01:18:01,785 readers as you know. 1252 01:18:01,785 --> 01:18:03,387 And they have been a topic of 1253 01:18:03,387 --> 01:18:03,520 much discussion recently 1254 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:04,388 . 1255 01:18:04,388 --> 01:18:04,688 You and I had a lengthy 1256 01:18:04,688 --> 01:18:06,688 discussion. 1257 01:18:12,396 --> 01:18:13,630 >> Kenny Boddye: moving to the 1258 01:18:13,630 --> 01:18:13,931 drone pilot, would explain how 1259 01:18:13,931 --> 01:18:14,865 these are used and why it was 1260 01:18:14,865 --> 01:18:16,366 selected for the location of 1261 01:18:16,366 --> 01:18:17,134 the pilot program? 1262 01:18:17,134 --> 01:18:18,135 >> the drone as an enhancement 1263 01:18:18,135 --> 01:18:21,135 to our current drone program. 1264 01:18:24,675 --> 01:18:25,709 We have had drones in prince 1265 01:18:25,709 --> 01:18:26,310 william county since 2020 one 1266 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:29,910 from the way we deploy the 1267 01:18:31,615 --> 01:18:32,616 malice if it's an emergency 1268 01:18:32,616 --> 01:18:33,250 someone has it in the vehicle 1269 01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,151 and they drive to the scene. 1270 01:18:34,151 --> 01:18:35,853 This gives us the ability to 1271 01:18:35,853 --> 01:18:38,989 soon as the call is dispatched, 1272 01:18:38,989 --> 01:18:39,923 it only has a 2 mile radius so 1273 01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:44,723 this will be a pilot to see how 1274 01:18:45,429 --> 01:18:46,196 effective it is 1275 01:18:46,196 --> 01:18:46,830 . 1276 01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:47,397 What the drone does is gets on 1277 01:18:47,397 --> 01:18:48,198 the scene quickly and gives 1278 01:18:48,198 --> 01:18:49,233 information to the police 1279 01:18:49,233 --> 01:18:51,401 department and it could give 1280 01:18:51,401 --> 01:18:51,568 information about what is going 1281 01:18:51,568 --> 01:18:53,568 on. 1282 01:18:58,809 --> 01:18:59,743 It would significantly improve 1283 01:18:59,743 --> 01:19:00,444 officer safety is one of the 1284 01:19:00,444 --> 01:19:01,311 valve is giving information to 1285 01:19:01,311 --> 01:19:03,711 the first responders before 1286 01:19:04,314 --> 01:19:05,315 they get there. 1287 01:19:05,315 --> 01:19:05,983 As you know, a lot of other 1288 01:19:05,983 --> 01:19:06,483 jurisdictions I'm gone as a 1289 01:19:06,483 --> 01:19:08,483 first responder. 1290 01:19:12,322 --> 01:19:12,523 We are a little bit late in the 1291 01:19:12,523 --> 01:19:13,390 game. 1292 01:19:13,390 --> 01:19:16,990 And the reason we selected it 1293 01:19:18,128 --> 01:19:18,762 is because we looked at our 1294 01:19:18,762 --> 01:19:19,429 crime and that area is a 1295 01:19:19,429 --> 01:19:20,297 hotspot for crimes. 1296 01:19:20,297 --> 01:19:20,564 >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate 1297 01:19:20,564 --> 01:19:21,465 that. 1298 01:19:21,465 --> 01:19:22,399 You talked about how it would 1299 01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:24,399 be used. 1300 01:19:25,736 --> 01:19:26,804 Can you talk about cases. 1301 01:19:26,804 --> 01:19:29,273 are we talking about violent 1302 01:19:29,273 --> 01:19:29,439 crimes 1303 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:30,374 . 1304 01:19:30,374 --> 01:19:31,875 Would this be used for 1305 01:19:31,875 --> 01:19:32,910 shoplifting calls, loitering, 1306 01:19:32,910 --> 01:19:37,110 what type of cases would it be 1307 01:19:37,481 --> 01:19:38,482 deployed in. 1308 01:19:38,482 --> 01:19:39,183 >> virginia statute restricts 1309 01:19:39,183 --> 01:19:39,983 the times we could use it and 1310 01:19:39,983 --> 01:19:42,853 when we would be using the 1311 01:19:42,853 --> 01:19:43,687 drones on it is only currently 1312 01:19:43,687 --> 01:19:46,557 use them when it is an 1313 01:19:46,557 --> 01:19:47,191 emergency situation. 1314 01:19:47,191 --> 01:19:47,724 We could send it up in a 1315 01:19:47,724 --> 01:19:49,326 traffic crash to give 1316 01:19:49,326 --> 01:19:49,993 information to the public. 1317 01:19:49,993 --> 01:19:54,193 We could use it as a missing 1318 01:19:57,801 --> 01:19:58,569 person situation, but primarily 1319 01:19:58,569 --> 01:19:59,303 it's for emergencies. 1320 01:19:59,303 --> 01:20:00,237 >> Kenny Boddye: what is being 1321 01:20:00,237 --> 01:20:01,138 done to protect residents 1322 01:20:01,138 --> 01:20:01,572 privacy is drones fly to and 1323 01:20:01,572 --> 01:20:02,172 from scenes? 1324 01:20:02,172 --> 01:20:02,506 They get deployed 1325 01:20:02,506 --> 01:20:02,906 , they fly 1326 01:20:02,906 --> 01:20:04,906 back. 1327 01:20:06,143 --> 01:20:07,770 Are they going to be recording 1328 01:20:07,770 --> 01:20:11,277 to and from her only when they 1329 01:20:12,916 --> 01:20:13,951 get to a scene? 1330 01:20:13,951 --> 01:20:14,952 >> a lot of people learned the 1331 01:20:14,952 --> 01:20:15,519 misimpression that the drones 1332 01:20:15,519 --> 01:20:18,188 are taking images of the 1333 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:18,521 hallway and that's not true 1334 01:20:18,521 --> 01:20:19,523 . 1335 01:20:19,523 --> 01:20:20,157 The camera is not in the 1336 01:20:20,157 --> 01:20:21,240 position to take images as it 1337 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,624 travels to and from the scene 1338 01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:27,231 of an event. 1339 01:20:27,231 --> 01:20:27,731 >> Kenny Boddye: my last one, 1340 01:20:27,731 --> 01:20:28,899 thank you for your time. 1341 01:20:28,899 --> 01:20:29,666 With the drones be using facial 1342 01:20:29,666 --> 01:20:29,933 recognition or other ai driven 1343 01:20:29,933 --> 01:20:31,435 software? 1344 01:20:31,435 --> 01:20:32,102 >> they would not. 1345 01:20:32,102 --> 01:20:35,102 MAY have a camera access 1346 01:20:38,408 --> 01:20:39,409 information from the camera it 1347 01:20:39,409 --> 01:20:40,444 would be restricted. 1348 01:20:40,444 --> 01:20:41,178 It would be law enforcement 1349 01:20:41,178 --> 01:20:44,648 sensitive and we only use it if 1350 01:20:44,648 --> 01:20:44,915 we had a criminal case 1351 01:20:44,915 --> 01:20:45,983 . 1352 01:20:45,983 --> 01:20:46,949 >> Kenny Boddye: had one final 1353 01:20:46,949 --> 01:20:48,986 question logistically for you. 1354 01:20:48,986 --> 01:20:49,887 If we were to defer this drone 1355 01:20:49,887 --> 01:20:53,487 mou but move forward of the 1356 01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:54,892 other one, is there a time 1357 01:20:54,892 --> 01:20:55,492 sensitivity to it, what have 1358 01:20:55,492 --> 01:20:57,492 you? 1359 01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:59,963 >> for us there is 1360 01:20:59,963 --> 01:21:00,964 . 1361 01:21:00,964 --> 01:21:03,200 Anything that improves officer 1362 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,903 safety I am reluctant to delay 1363 01:21:05,903 --> 01:21:06,603 that. 1364 01:21:06,603 --> 01:21:10,700 Let me give you one example of 1365 01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:12,976 how it could make folks on the 1366 01:21:12,976 --> 01:21:13,110 fireside safe as well 1367 01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:14,578 . 1368 01:21:14,578 --> 01:21:18,778 We get a number of spoof calls 1369 01:21:20,517 --> 01:21:21,418 throughout the weeks when you 1370 01:21:21,418 --> 01:21:22,352 have a:it's an emergency and 1371 01:21:22,352 --> 01:21:23,200 some of the descriptions of 1372 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,755 people: and they say mass 1373 01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:26,790 shooting in that, GOD forbid, 1374 01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:26,957 could happen here 1375 01:21:26,957 --> 01:21:27,691 . 1376 01:21:27,691 --> 01:21:31,891 What we do is send the units 1377 01:21:33,397 --> 01:21:33,764 out there 1378 01:21:33,764 --> 01:21:34,765 . 1379 01:21:34,765 --> 01:21:35,399 If you were able to get a drone 1380 01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:36,233 and they were able to see from 1381 01:21:36,233 --> 01:21:39,233 the scene that there was 1382 01:21:44,441 --> 01:21:44,975 nothing going on, because lower 1383 01:21:44,975 --> 01:21:45,609 unit down pick the most 1384 01:21:45,609 --> 01:21:46,477 dangerous things police 1385 01:21:46,477 --> 01:21:49,790 officers and firefighters do is 1386 01:21:49,790 --> 01:21:49,913 drive an emergency status 1387 01:21:49,913 --> 01:21:50,647 ticket is the reason most 1388 01:21:50,647 --> 01:21:51,548 police officers get killed in 1389 01:21:51,548 --> 01:21:52,149 the line of duty is in car 1390 01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:55,749 crashes picked to be able to 1391 01:21:55,819 --> 01:21:58,219 get a drone there. 1392 01:22:00,570 --> 01:22:01,910 Answer your question, I would 1393 01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:05,291 be reluctant to delay it up at 1394 01:22:05,596 --> 01:22:06,830 all possible. 1395 01:22:06,830 --> 01:22:07,300 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 1396 01:22:07,300 --> 01:22:07,865 vegas. 1397 01:22:07,865 --> 01:22:08,966 >> Yesli Vega: thank you for 1398 01:22:08,966 --> 01:22:09,633 being here. 1399 01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:12,369 I also have those items I 1400 01:22:12,369 --> 01:22:14,769 wanted to talk about 1401 01:22:23,380 --> 01:22:24,140 . 1402 01:22:24,140 --> 01:22:24,848 Supervisor boddye is almost 1403 01:22:24,848 --> 01:22:25,516 asked all the questions I had 1404 01:22:25,516 --> 01:22:26,483 and I want to be clear as 1405 01:22:26,483 --> 01:22:27,885 someone connected to the world 1406 01:22:27,885 --> 01:22:28,819 a law enforcement, I understand 1407 01:22:28,819 --> 01:22:30,154 time is of the essence and when 1408 01:22:30,154 --> 01:22:30,721 it comes to officer safety and 1409 01:22:30,721 --> 01:22:31,755 ensuring we are keeping the 1410 01:22:31,755 --> 01:22:34,755 public safe, certain tools are 1411 01:22:40,597 --> 01:22:40,998 necessary 1412 01:22:40,998 --> 01:22:41,999 . 1413 01:22:41,999 --> 01:22:42,266 In order for officers to do 1414 01:22:42,266 --> 01:22:43,660 their job. 1415 01:22:43,660 --> 01:22:43,901 I want to be clear and on the 1416 01:22:43,901 --> 01:22:44,935 record that I understand 1417 01:22:44,935 --> 01:22:45,602 there's a legitimate concern 1418 01:22:45,602 --> 01:22:46,603 about public safety is there 1419 01:22:46,603 --> 01:22:48,105 are legitimate concerns about 1420 01:22:48,105 --> 01:22:49,139 independent by the sea. 1421 01:22:49,139 --> 01:22:51,675 As a body what we are trying to 1422 01:22:51,675 --> 01:22:55,875 do is how do we answer the 1423 01:22:59,383 --> 01:22:59,883 question in regards to 1424 01:22:59,883 --> 01:23:00,884 government entities 1425 01:23:00,884 --> 01:23:01,585 appropriately protecting both. 1426 01:23:01,585 --> 01:23:02,519 And so with that being said, 1427 01:23:02,519 --> 01:23:06,119 how does this impact for you? 1428 01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:08,892 There is language that states 1429 01:23:08,892 --> 01:23:09,193 footage will not be 1430 01:23:09,193 --> 01:23:09,493 distributed. 1431 01:23:09,493 --> 01:23:11,893 Can you walk us 1432 01:23:18,368 --> 01:23:19,369 through that? 1433 01:23:19,369 --> 01:23:20,103 >> generally because most of 1434 01:23:20,103 --> 01:23:21,400 the information we obtained by 1435 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:21,905 way of video was related to a 1436 01:23:21,905 --> 01:23:23,600 criminal case, it would be 1437 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:23,907 investigative in nature and 1438 01:23:23,907 --> 01:23:24,575 that is one of the exceptions 1439 01:23:24,575 --> 01:23:25,409 to a four-year request and that 1440 01:23:25,409 --> 01:23:29,900 is why we would not provide 1441 01:23:32,281 --> 01:23:33,283 that. 1442 01:23:33,283 --> 01:23:33,984 >> Yesli Vega: for those here 1443 01:23:33,984 --> 01:23:34,818 in chambers watching at home, a 1444 01:23:34,818 --> 01:23:35,752 lot of questions came from our 1445 01:23:35,752 --> 01:23:36,720 constituents and so we feel the 1446 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,320 need, the duty to ask those 1447 01:23:41,125 --> 01:23:41,859 questions publicly. 1448 01:23:41,859 --> 01:23:42,359 >> I am happy we are having 1449 01:23:42,359 --> 01:23:43,227 this discussion. 1450 01:23:43,227 --> 01:23:44,261 >> Yesli Vega: moving right 1451 01:23:44,261 --> 01:23:47,861 along in regards to the drone 1452 01:23:48,599 --> 01:23:49,566 request here, I want to say 1453 01:23:49,566 --> 01:23:50,300 when it comes to leading, 1454 01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:53,504 whether it's for these asks or 1455 01:23:53,504 --> 01:23:54,638 how the department conducts 1456 01:23:54,638 --> 01:23:58,238 itself, I don't say because I'm 1457 01:24:03,814 --> 01:24:04,381 bias but when we look at what 1458 01:24:04,381 --> 01:24:04,915 is transpired over the last 1459 01:24:04,915 --> 01:24:05,549 four or five years, our 1460 01:24:05,549 --> 01:24:06,450 department should be commended 1461 01:24:06,450 --> 01:24:07,451 for always taking the lead to. 1462 01:24:07,451 --> 01:24:08,652 Often times we see that things 1463 01:24:08,652 --> 01:24:11,540 are taking place in a different 1464 01:24:11,540 --> 01:24:13,454 manner across the nation. 1465 01:24:15,392 --> 01:24:16,393 When it comes to the department 1466 01:24:16,393 --> 01:24:17,394 think we are proactive rather 1467 01:24:17,394 --> 01:24:19,363 than reactive and we set the 1468 01:24:19,363 --> 01:24:21,363 standard. 1469 01:24:29,505 --> 01:24:30,541 Can these be used to portray 1470 01:24:30,541 --> 01:24:30,741 surveillance without an active 1471 01:24:30,741 --> 01:24:31,410 call? 1472 01:24:31,410 --> 01:24:31,942 >> no. 1473 01:24:31,942 --> 01:24:32,576 >> Yesli Vega: how long is the 1474 01:24:32,576 --> 01:24:33,760 footage retained and who can 1475 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:34,178 access or share in? 1476 01:24:34,178 --> 01:24:34,344 >> it's 30 days 1477 01:24:34,344 --> 01:24:35,312 . 1478 01:24:35,312 --> 01:24:39,512 It is a very short window of 1479 01:24:40,170 --> 01:24:40,951 time. 1480 01:24:40,951 --> 01:24:41,285 >> in terms of who can access 1481 01:24:41,285 --> 01:24:43,285 or share it? 1482 01:24:53,330 --> 01:24:53,864 >> let me retract the drone 1483 01:24:53,864 --> 01:24:54,731 footage answer. 1484 01:24:54,731 --> 01:24:55,399 Retention is based off of the 1485 01:24:55,399 --> 01:24:56,233 nature of what it captures. 1486 01:24:56,233 --> 01:24:57,267 It's it if it is a criminal 1487 01:24:57,267 --> 01:24:57,835 offense it would be continue to 1488 01:24:57,835 --> 01:24:58,735 be in the system until the 1489 01:24:58,735 --> 01:24:59,770 criminal case was disposed of. 1490 01:24:59,770 --> 01:25:03,370 If it is a non-criminal event 1491 01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:10,113 we would deleted after 30 days. 1492 01:25:10,113 --> 01:25:10,481 And I missed your second 1493 01:25:10,481 --> 01:25:11,582 question. 1494 01:25:11,582 --> 01:25:11,949 >> Yesli Vega: who can access 1495 01:25:11,949 --> 01:25:12,583 it or share it? 1496 01:25:12,583 --> 01:25:13,484 >> the police department. 1497 01:25:13,484 --> 01:25:14,985 >> Yesli Vega: can the drones 1498 01:25:14,985 --> 01:25:15,486 integrate with other tractive 1499 01:25:15,486 --> 01:25:15,953 technologies? 1500 01:25:15,953 --> 01:25:16,653 >> they do not. 1501 01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:17,488 >> Yesli Vega: those are all 1502 01:25:17,488 --> 01:25:18,388 the questions I have. 1503 01:25:18,388 --> 01:25:18,722 Thank you for your 1504 01:25:18,722 --> 01:25:19,490 transparency. 1505 01:25:19,490 --> 01:25:20,390 Really appreciate it. 1506 01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:22,790 >> Chair Deshundra: this is 1507 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,630 been a real big issue with 1508 01:25:26,630 --> 01:25:29,630 consist constituents and it's a 1509 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:30,234 brand and there is a lot I have 1510 01:25:30,234 --> 01:25:32,234 learned. 1511 01:25:33,137 --> 01:25:35,772 I went to the town hall could 1512 01:25:35,772 --> 01:25:35,973 you address these issues 1513 01:25:35,973 --> 01:25:36,940 . 1514 01:25:36,940 --> 01:25:37,541 There is a lot that we need to 1515 01:25:37,541 --> 01:25:39,941 talk about the differences 1516 01:25:43,130 --> 01:25:43,881 between red light cameras and 1517 01:25:43,881 --> 01:25:47,718 it is access and who has the 1518 01:25:47,718 --> 01:25:48,418 authority to pick them up. 1519 01:25:48,418 --> 01:25:52,618 Listen be a topic of a work 1520 01:25:54,910 --> 01:25:55,250 session coming up making sure 1521 01:25:55,250 --> 01:25:58,625 we have a work session around 1522 01:25:59,530 --> 01:26:00,197 this so we are being 1523 01:26:00,197 --> 01:26:01,265 transparent and big band to 1524 01:26:01,265 --> 01:26:04,265 stay with the police department 1525 01:26:07,136 --> 01:26:08,138 is doing and it gives everyone 1526 01:26:08,138 --> 01:26:08,972 a chance to ask more in-depth 1527 01:26:08,972 --> 01:26:11,972 questions and so with that, 1528 01:26:12,242 --> 01:26:13,243 supervisor bailey? 1529 01:26:13,243 --> 01:26:13,877 >> if I MAY, and I know you 1530 01:26:13,877 --> 01:26:14,778 were at the town hall meeting. 1531 01:26:14,778 --> 01:26:17,581 There is a couple of things I 1532 01:26:17,581 --> 01:26:18,482 would like to say here if I 1533 01:26:18,482 --> 01:26:21,482 could about the license plate 1534 01:26:25,756 --> 01:26:26,690 readers think the statute is 1535 01:26:26,690 --> 01:26:27,691 there a strict to begin with. 1536 01:26:27,691 --> 01:26:27,958 Retention on license plate 20 1537 01:26:27,958 --> 01:26:29,958 one days. 1538 01:26:32,162 --> 01:26:32,629 There are criminal penalties 1539 01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:34,629 for misuse. 1540 01:26:38,135 --> 01:26:38,836 Washington post recently did a 1541 01:26:38,836 --> 01:26:39,670 story about misuse across the 1542 01:26:39,670 --> 01:26:42,700 country by law enforcement 1543 01:26:43,407 --> 01:26:43,907 officers and what that was with 1544 01:26:43,907 --> 01:26:46,307 a failure to audit. 1545 01:26:48,445 --> 01:26:49,120 We audit our license plate hits 1546 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,120 every single day the caller 1547 01:26:53,217 --> 01:26:54,218 officers have to be trained 1548 01:26:54,218 --> 01:26:55,319 before they use it in the two 1549 01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:57,719 trainings emphasizes that there 1550 01:26:58,388 --> 01:26:59,323 is a criminal penalty for 1551 01:26:59,323 --> 01:27:00,457 misuse any of teva criminal 1552 01:27:00,457 --> 01:27:03,457 predicate before you enter a 1553 01:27:04,940 --> 01:27:06,494 tag into the system. 1554 01:27:08,799 --> 01:27:08,866 In policy is tight 1555 01:27:08,866 --> 01:27:10,866 . 1556 01:27:13,637 --> 01:27:13,904 The license plate readers are 1557 01:27:13,904 --> 01:27:15,904 critical. 1558 01:27:18,475 --> 01:27:19,443 In fact, we had 11 homicides in 1559 01:27:19,443 --> 01:27:20,760 the county in eight of the 1560 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,476 homicides I simply reader 1561 01:27:22,646 --> 01:27:23,580 information was extremely 1562 01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:25,980 helpful ensuring those cases 1563 01:27:26,717 --> 01:27:27,818 were closed. 1564 01:27:27,818 --> 01:27:30,818 >> Chair Deshundra: I do want 1565 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,920 to address this. 1566 01:27:34,158 --> 01:27:34,925 Information about our cameras 1567 01:27:34,925 --> 01:27:36,126 in public knowledge we have a 1568 01:27:36,126 --> 01:27:38,126 website, correct? 1569 01:27:40,564 --> 01:27:41,565 >> will 28 cameras fixed and 1570 01:27:41,565 --> 01:27:41,799 for that are mobile and those 1571 01:27:41,799 --> 01:27:43,799 on the 1572 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:45,803 website. 1573 01:27:45,803 --> 01:27:47,700 And we are being as transparent 1574 01:27:47,700 --> 01:27:49,700 as we can 1575 01:27:52,943 --> 01:27:53,944 . 1576 01:27:53,944 --> 01:27:56,413 The policy here if a police 1577 01:27:56,413 --> 01:27:57,214 officer was to misuse this data 1578 01:27:57,214 --> 01:27:58,480 , they would be charged 1579 01:27:58,480 --> 01:27:59,783 criminally and we make every 1580 01:27:59,783 --> 01:28:03,383 effort to make sure they were 1581 01:28:03,821 --> 01:28:04,822 removed from this department. 1582 01:28:04,822 --> 01:28:05,789 >> Chair Deshundra: I want 1583 01:28:05,789 --> 01:28:07,891 question about a camera out 1584 01:28:07,891 --> 01:28:08,559 there 1585 01:28:08,559 --> 01:28:09,159 . 1586 01:28:09,159 --> 01:28:09,726 Not every surveillance camera 1587 01:28:09,726 --> 01:28:12,726 is installed on their are 1588 01:28:18,569 --> 01:28:19,503 private cameras out there. 1589 01:28:19,503 --> 01:28:20,404 Split the license plate reader 1590 01:28:20,404 --> 01:28:21,405 technology is available and so 1591 01:28:21,405 --> 01:28:21,738 not every camera out there is a 1592 01:28:21,738 --> 01:28:23,738 police camera. 1593 01:28:24,942 --> 01:28:25,642 Our cameras on the 28 and the 1594 01:28:25,642 --> 01:28:27,444 four that we have in the way 1595 01:28:27,444 --> 01:28:30,444 that we deployed those cameras 1596 01:28:43,827 --> 01:28:44,595 is based off of a crime. 1597 01:28:44,595 --> 01:28:45,496 The way that we deploy them in 1598 01:28:45,496 --> 01:28:46,363 the county right now if I'm not 1599 01:28:46,363 --> 01:28:47,297 mistaken is nine in the western 1600 01:28:47,297 --> 01:28:47,564 district, 10 in the eastern 1601 01:28:47,564 --> 01:28:48,499 district. 1602 01:28:48,499 --> 01:28:48,999 > Chair Deshundra: I quickly 1603 01:28:48,999 --> 01:28:49,967 my last bit of time. 1604 01:28:49,967 --> 01:28:50,868 For the once private, do they 1605 01:28:50,868 --> 01:28:52,136 have access to that information 1606 01:28:52,136 --> 01:28:52,468 was that information feed into 1607 01:28:52,468 --> 01:28:53,700 your database. 1608 01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,470 >> they don't have access. 1609 01:29:01,645 --> 01:29:02,646 Our information is owned by us. 1610 01:29:02,646 --> 01:29:03,347 We do have access to 10 private 1611 01:29:03,347 --> 01:29:05,215 entities were we have access. 1612 01:29:05,215 --> 01:29:06,283 They cannot get hours. 1613 01:29:06,283 --> 01:29:07,317 >> Chair Deshundra: there are 1614 01:29:07,317 --> 01:29:10,917 so many questions in this is 1615 01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:14,491 such a hot topic. 1616 01:29:14,491 --> 01:29:14,925 With that I will go to 1617 01:29:14,925 --> 01:29:15,859 supervisor bailey. 1618 01:29:15,859 --> 01:29:16,627 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for 1619 01:29:16,627 --> 01:29:17,561 the detailed question. 1620 01:29:17,561 --> 01:29:19,961 I appreciate the in-depth 1621 01:29:23,367 --> 01:29:24,301 questions saying you wanted to 1622 01:29:24,301 --> 01:29:25,536 have this in terms of clarity. 1623 01:29:25,536 --> 01:29:29,736 For clarity sake in terms of as 1624 01:29:46,190 --> 01:29:46,457 we move forward with federal 1625 01:29:46,457 --> 01:29:47,191 agencies. 1626 01:29:47,191 --> 01:29:47,891 And you address that and 1627 01:29:47,891 --> 01:29:51,491 explain to us what that looks 1628 01:29:54,131 --> 01:29:54,364 like if for some reason that 1629 01:29:54,364 --> 01:29:55,232 changes? 1630 01:29:55,232 --> 01:29:58,232 >> I don't anticipate a change. 1631 01:30:01,872 --> 01:30:02,840 Virginia assembly passed a 1632 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:03,841 statute a year ago JULY which 1633 01:30:03,841 --> 01:30:04,875 restricted us from sharing your 1634 01:30:04,875 --> 01:30:07,875 license plate reader data with 1635 01:30:08,979 --> 01:30:09,480 federal agencies 1636 01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:10,800 . 1637 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:10,747 That is our data so I don't 1638 01:30:10,747 --> 01:30:13,747 think we could be compelled. 1639 01:30:14,818 --> 01:30:15,419 I 1640 01:30:15,419 --> 01:30:19,190 don't think that we could be 1641 01:30:19,823 --> 01:30:20,791 compelled to share that data. 1642 01:30:20,791 --> 01:30:23,191 >> Andrea Bailey: the type 1643 01:30:25,329 --> 01:30:25,829 reviewed retained the 1644 01:30:25,829 --> 01:30:27,829 information quick 1645 01:30:31,735 --> 01:30:32,769 >> by statute is this 21 days. 1646 01:30:32,769 --> 01:30:34,138 Spoke for the drone it is based 1647 01:30:34,138 --> 01:30:37,738 off of the criminal in nature. 1648 01:30:48,585 --> 01:30:50,120 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 1649 01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,155 stuart? 1650 01:30:51,155 --> 01:30:53,555 >> George Stewart: when it 1651 01:30:56,193 --> 01:30:57,260 comes to the private cameras, 1652 01:30:57,260 --> 01:30:57,795 are there any private cameras 1653 01:30:57,795 --> 01:31:01,965 that do not have the ability to 1654 01:31:01,965 --> 01:31:03,000 tie into? 1655 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,100 >> this is privately owned 1656 01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:06,100 cameras and homeowners 1657 01:31:10,974 --> 01:31:13,374 associations the footprints of 1658 01:31:21,418 --> 01:31:22,840 those 10 are generally within 1659 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:23,530 prince william county. 1660 01:31:23,530 --> 01:31:23,953 >> George Stewart: are they 1661 01:31:23,953 --> 01:31:24,688 subjected to the time period of 1662 01:31:24,688 --> 01:31:26,688 data deletion 1663 01:31:29,359 --> 01:31:30,600 ? 1664 01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:31,280 >> reached out to the vendor 1665 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,280 because I think the retention 1666 01:31:38,836 --> 01:31:39,236 schedule MAY be 30 days 1667 01:31:39,236 --> 01:31:40,204 . 1668 01:31:40,204 --> 01:31:40,971 We wouldn't be able to use 1669 01:31:40,971 --> 01:31:41,805 anything past the 21 days pick 1670 01:31:41,805 --> 01:31:42,406 if we were doing a search and 1671 01:31:42,406 --> 01:31:46,600 it came off one of those 1672 01:31:46,443 --> 01:31:46,944 private cameras 1673 01:31:46,944 --> 01:31:47,711 , we couldn't 1674 01:31:47,711 --> 01:31:48,712 use that information. 1675 01:31:48,712 --> 01:31:49,246 And I think that the vendor is 1676 01:31:49,246 --> 01:31:50,214 going to make within the 1677 01:31:50,214 --> 01:31:52,516 commonwealth they're going to 1678 01:31:52,516 --> 01:31:55,619 make it 21 days because of the 1679 01:31:55,619 --> 01:31:57,619 statute. 1680 01:31:59,957 --> 01:32:00,570 Lettuce my understanding 1681 01:32:00,570 --> 01:32:02,570 . 1682 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960 >> Andrea Bailey: I do. 1683 01:32:05,996 --> 01:32:08,996 I have five hours left. 1684 01:32:09,966 --> 01:32:10,968 I'm just kidding. 1685 01:32:10,968 --> 01:32:11,635 What you're basically saying 1686 01:32:11,635 --> 01:32:13,770 you have no control over those 1687 01:32:13,770 --> 01:32:16,770 cameras you know control of 1688 01:32:25,516 --> 01:32:26,517 that there are no statutes that 1689 01:32:26,517 --> 01:32:27,251 restrict the ability of a 1690 01:32:27,251 --> 01:32:28,118 privately owned entity to use 1691 01:32:28,118 --> 01:32:31,718 this cameras in any way that 1692 01:32:32,623 --> 01:32:33,724 they want. 1693 01:32:33,724 --> 01:32:34,124 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 1694 01:32:34,124 --> 01:32:35,125 very much. 1695 01:32:35,125 --> 01:32:36,260 There are no further questions. 1696 01:32:36,260 --> 01:32:36,360 Do you want to move 60 and are 1697 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,360 forward quick 1698 01:32:41,732 --> 01:32:42,533 >> I want to move 60. 1699 01:32:42,533 --> 01:32:42,766 I would like to move it forward 1700 01:32:42,766 --> 01:32:43,233 for 1701 01:32:43,233 --> 01:32:43,901 approval. 1702 01:32:43,901 --> 01:32:46,301 >> Chair Deshundra: is her 1703 01:32:53,343 --> 01:32:54,110 second. 1704 01:32:54,110 --> 01:32:54,978 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you for 1705 01:32:54,978 --> 01:32:57,881 the conversation we had last 1706 01:32:57,881 --> 01:32:59,183 week in your transparency 1707 01:32:59,183 --> 01:32:59,850 answering our questions. 1708 01:32:59,850 --> 01:33:02,586 We've two websites by the 1709 01:33:02,586 --> 01:33:05,189 principal them website where it 1710 01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:06,523 has the location and the 1711 01:33:06,523 --> 01:33:08,523 specific transparency piece 1712 01:33:12,610 --> 01:33:14,198 using the same platforms as 1713 01:33:14,198 --> 01:33:14,331 these entities 1714 01:33:14,331 --> 01:33:16,331 . 1715 01:33:16,934 --> 01:33:17,601 I wanted to commend the chief 1716 01:33:17,601 --> 01:33:20,601 and team as being transparent. 1717 01:33:24,274 --> 01:33:24,842 That is not the case throughout 1718 01:33:24,842 --> 01:33:25,275 the country 1719 01:33:25,275 --> 01:33:26,310 necessarily. 1720 01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:27,211 I know again that there's a lot 1721 01:33:27,211 --> 01:33:29,611 I community concern around 1722 01:33:32,983 --> 01:33:33,951 these cameras. 1723 01:33:33,951 --> 01:33:34,485 Operated by the county as I 1724 01:33:34,485 --> 01:33:34,651 wanted to highlight that 1725 01:33:34,651 --> 01:33:36,651 as well 1726 01:33:38,689 --> 01:33:39,690 . 1727 01:33:39,690 --> 01:33:40,724 I'm comfortable with the mou 1728 01:33:40,724 --> 01:33:41,658 between the police department 1729 01:33:41,658 --> 01:33:42,920 the potomac mills to move 1730 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,920 forward. 1731 01:33:55,606 --> 01:33:57,774 's wanted to come in the chief 1732 01:33:57,774 --> 01:34:00,174 again on that understanding 1733 01:34:03,380 --> 01:34:04,481 . 1734 01:34:04,481 --> 01:34:05,516 >> Chair Deshundra: there are 1735 01:34:05,516 --> 01:34:09,116 no other comments a let's take 1736 01:34:35,646 --> 01:34:36,780 our votes. 1737 01:34:36,780 --> 01:34:37,648 >> Chair Deshundra: let's move 1738 01:34:37,648 --> 01:34:40,818 to six are would you like to 1739 01:34:40,818 --> 01:34:41,685 move that one forward. 1740 01:34:41,685 --> 01:34:42,753 > Kenny Boddye: I hesitate. 1741 01:34:42,753 --> 01:34:45,753 I understand the chief's dance 1742 01:34:49,226 --> 01:34:50,260 on the safety of officers 1743 01:34:50,260 --> 01:34:50,928 having the first responder be a 1744 01:34:50,928 --> 01:34:52,229 drone but I would really love 1745 01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:52,729 for us to have a more robust 1746 01:34:52,729 --> 01:34:54,310 conversation. 1747 01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:54,631 Perhaps in the context of the 1748 01:34:54,631 --> 01:34:55,265 work session before we move 1749 01:34:55,265 --> 01:34:55,899 forward but want to see what my 1750 01:34:55,899 --> 01:34:58,368 colleagues have to say about 1751 01:34:58,368 --> 01:34:59,436 it. 1752 01:34:59,436 --> 01:35:02,436 >> Chair Deshundra: I prefer to 1753 01:35:13,116 --> 01:35:13,884 have discussion motion. 1754 01:35:13,884 --> 01:35:14,218 >> Yesli Vega: I'm supportive 1755 01:35:14,218 --> 01:35:15,118 of this. 1756 01:35:15,118 --> 01:35:15,819 It's not just a matter of 1757 01:35:15,819 --> 01:35:17,321 officer safety when you talk 1758 01:35:17,321 --> 01:35:18,388 about drone technology if you 1759 01:35:18,388 --> 01:35:19,289 have a missing child, somebody 1760 01:35:19,289 --> 01:35:20,224 of house autism for example or 1761 01:35:20,224 --> 01:35:20,958 somebody part of the elderly 1762 01:35:20,958 --> 01:35:23,358 committee and suffers from 1763 01:35:25,762 --> 01:35:26,330 dementia because at earlier 1764 01:35:26,330 --> 01:35:27,640 that you never know how 1765 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,432 something will impact you until 1766 01:35:28,432 --> 01:35:32,302 it hits home and I think this 1767 01:35:32,302 --> 01:35:33,270 is needed become satisfied of 1768 01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:34,710 the framework provided in the 1769 01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:36,540 safeguards that have been put 1770 01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:37,441 in place in them a bit of 1771 01:35:37,441 --> 01:35:39,441 further discussion work 1772 01:35:39,442 --> 01:35:43,420 session, but for the reasons I 1773 01:35:46,984 --> 01:35:47,351 will be supporting this today 1774 01:35:47,351 --> 01:35:48,485 >> I second it 1775 01:35:48,485 --> 01:35:50,854 nderstand the citizens and 1776 01:35:50,854 --> 01:35:55,540 concerns but I was there on the 1777 01:35:57,494 --> 01:35:59,494 side of caution. 1778 01:36:08,710 --> 01:36:09,390 To help our police and I rather 1779 01:36:09,390 --> 01:36:09,940 err on the side of putting this 1780 01:36:09,940 --> 01:36:10,574 in place to prevent something 1781 01:36:10,574 --> 01:36:10,874 from going on the missing 1782 01:36:10,874 --> 01:36:11,441 opportunity 1783 01:36:11,441 --> 01:36:11,708 something bad 1784 01:36:11,708 --> 01:36:13,708 happens. 1785 01:36:15,780 --> 01:36:18,780 I'm open for more discussion 1786 01:36:18,482 --> 01:36:22,820 but for that I support this. 1787 01:36:24,154 --> 01:36:25,189 >> supervisor bailey? 1788 01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:25,889 >> Andrea Bailey: there is 1789 01:36:25,889 --> 01:36:29,920 opportunity for us to talk to 1790 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:29,993 the community even more and to 1791 01:36:29,993 --> 01:36:33,593 make sure that they have a 1792 01:36:33,931 --> 01:36:35,931 sense of security. 1793 01:36:39,937 --> 01:36:40,871 And think we do need to air on 1794 01:36:40,871 --> 01:36:41,872 the side of caution to make 1795 01:36:41,872 --> 01:36:44,141 sure that we are putting public 1796 01:36:44,141 --> 01:36:44,908 safety employees in the best 1797 01:36:44,908 --> 01:36:47,277 light forward to ensure that we 1798 01:36:47,277 --> 01:36:50,277 are protecting them as well 1799 01:36:50,447 --> 01:36:51,682 . 1800 01:36:51,682 --> 01:36:51,915 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 1801 01:36:51,915 --> 01:36:53,915 lacroix? 1802 01:36:54,318 --> 01:36:56,718 >> Jeannie LaCroix: I'm going 1803 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,488 to be supporting it and I think 1804 01:36:57,488 --> 01:37:01,688 there needs to be a lot of 1805 01:37:02,993 --> 01:37:03,226 guardrails 1806 01:37:03,226 --> 01:37:03,894 . 1807 01:37:03,894 --> 01:37:04,828 It can be used either way. 1808 01:37:04,828 --> 01:37:07,197 I'm going to support it because 1809 01:37:07,197 --> 01:37:10,797 I think her officers need to 1810 01:37:12,436 --> 01:37:13,537 have the latest and greatest. 1811 01:37:13,537 --> 01:37:14,171 >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going 1812 01:37:14,171 --> 01:37:15,105 to say a few quick words. 1813 01:37:15,105 --> 01:37:15,806 I understand the security 1814 01:37:15,806 --> 01:37:16,406 issues 1815 01:37:16,406 --> 01:37:17,400 . 1816 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:18,509 I understand people are nervous 1817 01:37:18,509 --> 01:37:20,711 about the different types of 1818 01:37:20,711 --> 01:37:20,777 surveillance out there 1819 01:37:20,777 --> 01:37:22,777 . 1820 01:37:23,247 --> 01:37:23,647 And the policies and the 1821 01:37:23,647 --> 01:37:25,647 procedures 1822 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,540 . 1823 01:37:31,540 --> 01:37:34,654 Is keeping them when men and 1824 01:37:34,925 --> 01:37:35,926 women who chosen public service 1825 01:37:35,926 --> 01:37:39,960 to keep our community safe and 1826 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:40,630 secure making sure we are not 1827 01:37:40,630 --> 01:37:43,663 putting their lives at risk and 1828 01:37:56,513 --> 01:37:57,214 they are using the technology 1829 01:37:57,214 --> 01:37:59,183 that I would like to go ahead 1830 01:37:59,183 --> 01:38:02,183 and call for the votes. 1831 01:38:16,433 --> 01:38:18,433 >> but unanimous. 1832 01:38:21,771 --> 01:38:22,940 Supervisors 1833 01:38:22,940 --> 01:38:23,307 boddye and stewart abstaining 1834 01:38:23,307 --> 01:38:25,307 from the vote. 1835 01:38:25,676 --> 01:38:27,311 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 1836 01:38:27,311 --> 01:38:29,120 We are now moving to six us 1837 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:30,714 . 1838 01:38:30,714 --> 01:38:31,782 Supervisor vega. 1839 01:38:31,782 --> 01:38:34,651 >> Yesli Vega: I'm going to 1840 01:38:34,651 --> 01:38:35,519 direct my questions to eric on 1841 01:38:35,519 --> 01:38:38,519 executive and this is in 1842 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:41,658 regards to the transferring 1843 01:38:41,658 --> 01:38:42,526 request of $48,000 in the 1844 01:38:42,526 --> 01:38:43,193 police department animal 1845 01:38:43,193 --> 01:38:44,495 service bureau budget to 1846 01:38:44,495 --> 01:38:45,429 provide additional funding for 1847 01:38:45,429 --> 01:38:46,130 the expansion of the counties 1848 01:38:46,130 --> 01:38:47,498 trump a new to vaccinate 1849 01:38:47,498 --> 01:38:50,300 release program pick for the 1850 01:38:50,300 --> 01:38:52,236 sake of consistency, we are not 1851 01:38:52,236 --> 01:38:55,836 adding a new expense outside of 1852 01:39:07,651 --> 01:39:08,418 the budget cycle. 1853 01:39:08,418 --> 01:39:09,286 >> thank you for the question. 1854 01:39:09,286 --> 01:39:10,287 The funding for the item is 1855 01:39:10,287 --> 01:39:11,154 being reprogrammed funding. 1856 01:39:11,154 --> 01:39:11,221 It is being reprogrammed. 1857 01:39:11,221 --> 01:39:13,221 E 1858 01:39:13,423 --> 01:39:14,458 are not going to art reserve to 1859 01:39:14,458 --> 01:39:17,458 get the funding picket is 1860 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:20,300 coming is a report programming 1861 01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:22,300 request. 1862 01:39:24,234 --> 01:39:25,235 >> Yesli Vega: based on my 1863 01:39:25,235 --> 01:39:26,403 readings, correct me if I am 1864 01:39:26,403 --> 01:39:27,104 wrong 1865 01:39:27,104 --> 01:39:30,104 , we are going to seek 1866 01:39:30,207 --> 01:39:33,207 outside parties in order to 1867 01:39:39,283 --> 01:39:40,317 take care of this request. 1868 01:39:40,317 --> 01:39:40,918 >> as a reminder $48,000 is the 1869 01:39:40,918 --> 01:39:41,785 curtain budget the animal 1870 01:39:41,785 --> 01:39:42,753 services staff use for this 1871 01:39:42,753 --> 01:39:45,753 program based on the directive 1872 01:39:48,959 --> 01:39:49,159 from supervisor lacroix in 1873 01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:49,893 JULY. 1874 01:39:49,893 --> 01:39:51,495 We move forward to identify 1875 01:39:51,495 --> 01:39:53,895 $48,000 from within the police 1876 01:39:54,631 --> 01:39:54,798 department 1877 01:39:54,798 --> 01:39:55,766 . 1878 01:39:55,766 --> 01:39:58,402 If approved today we will be 1879 01:39:58,402 --> 01:39:59,102 working with third-party 1880 01:39:59,102 --> 01:40:01,102 organizations and nonprofits 1881 01:40:01,672 --> 01:40:04,508 who service the community here 1882 01:40:04,508 --> 01:40:06,908 in prince william county. 1883 01:40:07,611 --> 01:40:10,881 This will be a grant program 1884 01:40:10,881 --> 01:40:11,615 and am excited the police 1885 01:40:11,615 --> 01:40:12,916 department worked so quickly we 1886 01:40:12,916 --> 01:40:13,851 are. 1887 01:40:13,851 --> 01:40:14,818 You plan to put out an 1888 01:40:14,818 --> 01:40:14,885 announcement 1889 01:40:14,885 --> 01:40:16,885 . 1890 01:40:20,290 --> 01:40:20,958 If approved for us to push 1891 01:40:20,958 --> 01:40:21,825 information to the community 1892 01:40:21,825 --> 01:40:23,527 and hold an information session 1893 01:40:23,527 --> 01:40:26,527 based on the request from 1894 01:40:27,431 --> 01:40:27,731 supervisor lacroix 1895 01:40:27,731 --> 01:40:28,699 . 1896 01:40:28,699 --> 01:40:29,332 >> Yesli Vega: the last 1897 01:40:29,332 --> 01:40:32,200 question I have because it is 1898 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,538 in the form of a grant and we 1899 01:40:34,538 --> 01:40:35,272 are using third parties to help 1900 01:40:35,272 --> 01:40:37,741 us solve an issue, what metrics 1901 01:40:37,741 --> 01:40:42,541 or data are we going to have in 1902 01:40:43,213 --> 01:40:44,181 place that lets us as a county 1903 01:40:44,181 --> 01:40:45,150 know that the job is actually 1904 01:40:45,150 --> 01:40:47,415 being taken care of. 1905 01:40:52,220 --> 01:40:52,923 >> but we are planning to do 1906 01:40:52,923 --> 01:40:54,858 where we will review which 1907 01:40:54,858 --> 01:40:54,925 organizations ultimately apply 1908 01:40:54,925 --> 01:40:56,925 , 1909 01:40:56,927 --> 01:40:58,927 or qualifications they 1910 01:41:00,597 --> 01:41:00,798 currently have 1911 01:41:00,798 --> 01:41:01,765 . 1912 01:41:01,765 --> 01:41:04,234 We will make sure that they are 1913 01:41:04,234 --> 01:41:05,502 registered as a nonprofit 1914 01:41:05,502 --> 01:41:07,502 within the community. 1915 01:41:09,907 --> 01:41:10,541 We will lend that process about 1916 01:41:10,541 --> 01:41:14,141 the number of cats they served 1917 01:41:14,178 --> 01:41:15,450 in the past and we will have 1918 01:41:15,450 --> 01:41:17,450 reporting requirements 1919 01:41:17,915 --> 01:41:18,916 . 1920 01:41:18,916 --> 01:41:21,916 The one-year timeframe we would 1921 01:41:22,719 --> 01:41:25,119 be requesting the organizations 1922 01:41:34,364 --> 01:41:34,998 reports of what they've done I 1923 01:41:34,998 --> 01:41:35,666 will be looking at the reports 1924 01:41:35,666 --> 01:41:36,366 to make sure that the number of 1925 01:41:36,366 --> 01:41:37,000 cats that they neutered is 1926 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,303 consistent with what they 1927 01:41:39,303 --> 01:41:39,403 reported they would do 1928 01:41:39,403 --> 01:41:41,403 . 1929 01:41:45,375 --> 01:41:46,310 I would remind you on the board 1930 01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:47,211 the because this is a grant and 1931 01:41:47,211 --> 01:41:48,745 not a contract like once the 1932 01:41:48,745 --> 01:41:50,113 grant funding goes out we would 1933 01:41:50,113 --> 01:41:54,313 not be able to pull that grant 1934 01:41:54,885 --> 01:41:55,619 funding back in. 1935 01:41:55,619 --> 01:41:59,219 Once the money is approved and 1936 01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:01,910 it goes out it will be granted 1937 01:42:01,910 --> 01:42:04,691 and not people back into the 1938 01:42:05,896 --> 01:42:07,896 government. 1939 01:42:10,367 --> 01:42:10,567 >> understand when it comes to 1940 01:42:10,567 --> 01:42:11,401 this. 1941 01:42:11,401 --> 01:42:15,272 I asked for those on the county 1942 01:42:15,272 --> 01:42:16,305 side to be vigilant ensuring 1943 01:42:16,305 --> 01:42:18,705 these funds are adequately 1944 01:42:18,876 --> 01:42:19,877 being used so we can address 1945 01:42:19,877 --> 01:42:23,460 the issue we have and I will 1946 01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:26,460 anxiously be waiting for those 1947 01:42:28,852 --> 01:42:29,686 reports for granted not support 1948 01:42:29,686 --> 01:42:31,755 the initial request but MR. 1949 01:42:31,755 --> 01:42:32,623 Shorter provided answers to the 1950 01:42:32,623 --> 01:42:33,590 questions and doubts and so i 1951 01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:36,590 will be supporting this ask 1952 01:42:37,394 --> 01:42:38,462 here today. 1953 01:42:38,462 --> 01:42:39,960 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 1954 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:39,530 so much. 1955 01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:41,640 Supervisor lacroix? 1956 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,464 >> Jeannie LaCroix: thank you 1957 01:42:45,402 --> 01:42:46,690 for supporting it today 1958 01:42:46,690 --> 01:42:46,703 . 1959 01:42:46,703 --> 01:42:50,107 We have a kitty emergency going 1960 01:42:50,107 --> 01:42:52,750 on in prince william county. 1961 01:42:52,750 --> 01:42:55,211 I want to mention that this is 1962 01:42:55,211 --> 01:42:58,615 money we had for the because we 1963 01:42:58,615 --> 01:42:59,583 did not use because of 1964 01:42:59,583 --> 01:43:02,583 something going on with the 1965 01:43:08,292 --> 01:43:09,293 animal shelter. 1966 01:43:09,293 --> 01:43:09,526 It's really important to get 1967 01:43:09,526 --> 01:43:10,394 this up. 1968 01:43:10,394 --> 01:43:11,328 That is what chris has done for 1969 01:43:11,328 --> 01:43:12,262 me is to make sure that we get 1970 01:43:12,262 --> 01:43:15,862 the money out as quickly as 1971 01:43:18,735 --> 01:43:22,335 possible so the people that is 1972 01:43:24,274 --> 01:43:25,275 how they got the 48,000 to be a 1973 01:43:25,275 --> 01:43:27,911 yearly amount that goes towards 1974 01:43:27,911 --> 01:43:28,946 this program. 1975 01:43:28,946 --> 01:43:29,980 We to get those people together 1976 01:43:29,980 --> 01:43:33,580 and chris will speak more on 1977 01:43:34,151 --> 01:43:35,850 this later but thank you for 1978 01:43:35,850 --> 01:43:38,685 the questions on this is really 1979 01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,560 important because we missed the 1980 01:43:45,229 --> 01:43:45,863 meeting season 1981 01:43:45,863 --> 01:43:48,263 , we do have a 1982 01:43:54,705 --> 01:43:55,405 crisis on our hands. 1983 01:43:55,405 --> 01:43:56,440 Make a motion not go forward. 1984 01:43:56,440 --> 01:43:58,840 >> Chair Deshundra: were there 1985 01:44:05,182 --> 01:44:05,482 any other questions? 1986 01:44:05,482 --> 01:44:06,316 Or comments? 1987 01:44:06,316 --> 01:44:06,717 >> Kenny Boddye: I have a 1988 01:44:06,717 --> 01:44:07,718 question. 1989 01:44:07,718 --> 01:44:08,151 >> Chair Deshundra: okay. 1990 01:44:08,151 --> 01:44:08,785 You have a question. 1991 01:44:08,785 --> 01:44:10,220 I ask we vacate the motion and 1992 01:44:10,220 --> 01:44:10,320 the second 1993 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:11,321 . 1994 01:44:11,321 --> 01:44:13,721 Supervisor boddye has a 1995 01:44:16,226 --> 01:44:16,493 question 1996 01:44:16,493 --> 01:44:17,494 . 1997 01:44:17,494 --> 01:44:18,262 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you. 1998 01:44:18,262 --> 01:44:19,596 It goes along the same vein of 1999 01:44:19,596 --> 01:44:20,197 why supervisor vega was going 2000 01:44:20,197 --> 01:44:20,764 . 2001 01:44:20,764 --> 01:44:23,764 this is a reprogramming of 2002 01:44:26,690 --> 01:44:26,970 funds and the funds we weren't 2003 01:44:26,970 --> 01:44:29,970 able to allocate because of 2004 01:44:31,708 --> 01:44:32,743 issues at the animal services 2005 01:44:32,743 --> 01:44:33,430 for this year it is not a new 2006 01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:33,911 expenditure. 2007 01:44:33,911 --> 01:44:37,511 The only question is since we 2008 01:44:37,815 --> 01:44:38,480 are setting up a program 2009 01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:38,949 , when 2010 01:44:38,949 --> 01:44:42,152 you talk about what it looks 2011 01:44:42,152 --> 01:44:45,752 like and to the point that 2012 01:44:46,690 --> 01:44:46,957 supervisor vega made the review 2013 01:44:46,957 --> 01:44:47,791 criteria. 2014 01:44:47,791 --> 01:44:49,590 It is going to be open for 2015 01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:52,590 different folks to be awarded 2016 01:44:52,362 --> 01:44:55,362 different money to come with 2017 01:44:55,499 --> 01:44:56,660 outlook. 2018 01:44:56,660 --> 01:44:58,602 >> I want to make two 2019 01:44:58,602 --> 01:45:00,304 statements pick funding 2020 01:45:00,304 --> 01:45:03,304 programmed for the purpose is 2021 01:45:03,874 --> 01:45:05,874 no longer available. 2022 01:45:10,214 --> 01:45:12,482 They would be closed for fy 25. 2023 01:45:12,482 --> 01:45:14,482 Fy 26 2024 01:45:14,618 --> 01:45:16,618 . 2025 01:45:20,691 --> 01:45:21,625 He $48,000 animal services will 2026 01:45:21,625 --> 01:45:22,659 be using is what is budgeted 2027 01:45:22,659 --> 01:45:26,259 based on the approval for this 2028 01:45:26,263 --> 01:45:26,463 year 2029 01:45:26,463 --> 01:45:27,431 . 2030 01:45:27,431 --> 01:45:28,432 The $48,000 being considered 2031 01:45:28,432 --> 01:45:31,301 today would be $40,000 that the 2032 01:45:31,301 --> 01:45:33,701 police department would've used 2033 01:45:36,106 --> 01:45:36,840 but is being reprogrammed. 2034 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,440 For future years we would need 2035 01:45:42,913 --> 01:45:43,547 to come back as part of the 2036 01:45:43,547 --> 01:45:44,414 budget process to get the 2037 01:45:44,414 --> 01:45:46,414 board's approval or 2038 01:45:48,752 --> 01:45:49,419 consideration if the program 2039 01:45:49,419 --> 01:45:50,287 outside about the police 2040 01:45:50,287 --> 01:45:53,287 department does at the animal 2041 01:45:55,580 --> 01:45:55,559 service center 2042 01:45:55,559 --> 01:45:56,426 , we would need 2043 01:45:56,426 --> 01:45:57,294 the board's green light to move 2044 01:45:57,294 --> 01:45:59,290 this forward in a more 2045 01:45:59,290 --> 01:45:59,229 permanent program 2046 01:45:59,229 --> 01:46:00,230 . 2047 01:46:00,230 --> 01:46:01,932 And for so for this year it is 2048 01:46:01,932 --> 01:46:05,532 a grant program pick of the 2049 01:46:06,570 --> 01:46:07,504 board requests and improved 2050 01:46:07,504 --> 01:46:09,406 request to make the outside 2051 01:46:09,406 --> 01:46:09,740 funding permanent 2052 01:46:09,740 --> 01:46:11,740 , we would 2053 01:46:12,910 --> 01:46:13,911 have time to put this in the 2054 01:46:13,911 --> 01:46:18,111 form of a contract in of clear 2055 01:46:18,849 --> 01:46:19,160 performance metrics 2056 01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,217 . 2057 01:46:20,217 --> 01:46:20,651 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 2058 01:46:20,651 --> 01:46:22,520 bailey? 2059 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,520 >> Andrea Bailey: I would like 2060 01:46:26,824 --> 01:46:26,957 to have my turn 2061 01:46:26,957 --> 01:46:28,725 . 2062 01:46:28,725 --> 01:46:32,325 This is something in terms of 2063 01:46:35,365 --> 01:46:36,366 continuity we did at the 2064 01:46:36,366 --> 01:46:36,834 previous administration. 2065 01:46:36,834 --> 01:46:37,367 And supervisor 2066 01:46:37,367 --> 01:46:39,367 lacroix, good I. 2067 01:46:41,104 --> 01:46:41,872 Like in baseball you caught it 2068 01:46:41,872 --> 01:46:44,872 and brought it back and 2069 01:46:45,909 --> 01:46:47,811 reprogrammed to the funding of 2070 01:46:47,811 --> 01:46:50,811 the animal shelter, we talked 2071 01:46:52,483 --> 01:46:53,217 about this for no other reason 2072 01:46:53,217 --> 01:46:56,217 than as a reminder collectively 2073 01:46:59,690 --> 01:47:00,390 on the board because we built a 2074 01:47:00,390 --> 01:47:01,358 new animal shelter we have to 2075 01:47:01,358 --> 01:47:02,292 put things that have not been 2076 01:47:02,292 --> 01:47:04,895 put in place for a very long 2077 01:47:04,895 --> 01:47:06,895 time. 2078 01:47:07,865 --> 01:47:10,265 The question supervisor vega 2079 01:47:11,635 --> 01:47:12,569 you mentioned about is is it 2080 01:47:12,569 --> 01:47:14,104 new money or not is a very 2081 01:47:14,104 --> 01:47:14,705 appropriate question 2082 01:47:14,705 --> 01:47:16,705 . 2083 01:47:19,343 --> 01:47:20,277 Is headed earlier, but we 2084 01:47:20,277 --> 01:47:20,844 appreciate the reprogramming of 2085 01:47:20,844 --> 01:47:23,580 the funding to let the 2086 01:47:23,580 --> 01:47:27,180 community know we are not being 2087 01:47:28,852 --> 01:47:29,853 over excessive. 2088 01:47:29,853 --> 01:47:30,554 >> Chair Deshundra: I know a 2089 01:47:30,554 --> 01:47:33,230 couple other people are in the 2090 01:47:33,230 --> 01:47:33,257 queue 2091 01:47:33,257 --> 01:47:33,991 . 2092 01:47:33,991 --> 01:47:34,825 If we can keep our comments 2093 01:47:34,825 --> 01:47:35,893 until we go back and do the 2094 01:47:35,893 --> 01:47:37,893 motion. 2095 01:47:37,895 --> 01:47:40,895 Did you have a question? 2096 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:42,166 You have a statement 2097 01:47:42,166 --> 01:47:43,660 . 2098 01:47:43,660 --> 01:47:44,340 I want everyone who has a 2099 01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:45,669 question 2100 01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:47,669 . 2101 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,407 if you have, let's go ahead and 2102 01:47:50,407 --> 01:47:53,577 redo the motion so you can make 2103 01:47:53,577 --> 01:47:54,578 a statement. 2104 01:47:54,578 --> 01:47:54,845 >> Andrea Bailey: I do have a 2105 01:47:54,845 --> 01:47:56,845 question. 2106 01:47:57,548 --> 01:47:59,548 Is that okay? 2107 01:48:02,419 --> 01:48:03,353 What I would like to ask is as 2108 01:48:03,353 --> 01:48:05,753 we reprogrammed these funds 2109 01:48:06,223 --> 01:48:09,223 will it be brought back. 2110 01:48:11,728 --> 01:48:14,531 As we reprogram, we will be 2111 01:48:14,531 --> 01:48:14,731 brought back in the budget 2112 01:48:14,731 --> 01:48:15,566 cycle. 2113 01:48:15,566 --> 01:48:19,303 Does one of us have to initiate 2114 01:48:19,303 --> 01:48:20,704 that since it is reprogramming 2115 01:48:20,704 --> 01:48:22,704 funds? 2116 01:48:24,208 --> 01:48:25,609 >> we are hoping the 2117 01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:25,909 application process 2118 01:48:25,909 --> 01:48:27,909 , and I can 2119 01:48:29,612 --> 01:48:31,648 explain this later for the 2120 01:48:31,648 --> 01:48:31,782 benefit of supervisor lacroix 2121 01:48:31,782 --> 01:48:33,782 . 2122 01:48:36,453 --> 01:48:37,540 What we plan to do by 2123 01:48:37,540 --> 01:48:38,622 mid-SEPTEMBER and started the 2124 01:48:38,622 --> 01:48:41,220 application process and made 2125 01:48:43,193 --> 01:48:44,128 some selections will bring 2126 01:48:44,128 --> 01:48:44,328 those back to the board for the 2127 01:48:44,328 --> 01:48:45,929 board 2128 01:48:45,929 --> 01:48:47,297 awareness. 2129 01:48:47,297 --> 01:48:50,897 The funds would be issued via 2130 01:48:58,809 --> 01:48:59,276 grant to issue those funds by 2131 01:48:59,276 --> 01:49:01,676 way of a grant. 2132 01:49:04,140 --> 01:49:07,614 If the board decides is he 2133 01:49:09,653 --> 01:49:10,587 program similar to this in 2134 01:49:10,587 --> 01:49:12,550 addition to what the animal 2135 01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:15,259 services center does by way of 2136 01:49:15,259 --> 01:49:17,659 trap, neuter, vaccinate and 2137 01:49:17,828 --> 01:49:17,961 release 2138 01:49:17,961 --> 01:49:19,961 . 2139 01:49:21,665 --> 01:49:22,699 The board would consider it 2140 01:49:22,699 --> 01:49:25,699 along with the other budget 2141 01:49:26,203 --> 01:49:29,803 proposals and if it becomes a 2142 01:49:30,974 --> 01:49:31,842 permanent program we would work 2143 01:49:31,842 --> 01:49:32,609 toward a more permanent 2144 01:49:32,609 --> 01:49:34,609 contracting vehicle 2145 01:49:40,551 --> 01:49:41,552 . 2146 01:49:41,552 --> 01:49:43,620 >> I make a motion we move 2147 01:49:43,620 --> 01:49:43,687 forward 2148 01:49:43,687 --> 01:49:45,687 . 2149 01:49:49,590 --> 01:49:49,226 >> second 2150 01:49:49,226 --> 01:49:50,227 . 2151 01:49:50,227 --> 01:49:50,727 >> Chair Deshundra: properly 2152 01:49:50,727 --> 01:49:51,228 moved and seconded. 2153 01:49:51,228 --> 01:49:53,228 Upervisor 2154 01:49:55,799 --> 01:49:56,867 lacroix? 2155 01:49:56,867 --> 01:49:58,135 >> Jeannie LaCroix: it's my 2156 01:49:58,135 --> 01:49:58,769 understanding in the 2157 01:49:58,769 --> 01:50:00,769 understanding of animal 2158 01:50:07,845 --> 01:50:08,445 activists out there this is a 2159 01:50:08,445 --> 01:50:09,513 program that it will be taken 2160 01:50:09,513 --> 01:50:11,913 over completely and totally 2161 01:50:15,619 --> 01:50:16,320 buyer animal shelter. 2162 01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:17,254 We have had issues with the 2163 01:50:17,254 --> 01:50:20,854 heating and air system or their 2164 01:50:21,959 --> 01:50:22,920 system. 2165 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:22,960 . 2166 01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:24,828 That is my understanding but 2167 01:50:24,828 --> 01:50:26,964 until we get the we have people 2168 01:50:26,964 --> 01:50:27,531 willing to help out for the 2169 01:50:27,531 --> 01:50:29,531 time being. 2170 01:50:31,435 --> 01:50:33,835 That is only one 2171 01:50:38,742 --> 01:50:39,977 essay. 2172 01:50:39,977 --> 01:50:40,277 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 2173 01:50:40,277 --> 01:50:40,978 boddye. 2174 01:50:40,978 --> 01:50:41,778 >> Kenny Boddye: I wanted to 2175 01:50:41,778 --> 01:50:41,879 thank supervisor lacroix. 2176 01:50:41,879 --> 01:50:42,746 Nd 2177 01:50:42,746 --> 01:50:45,146 jumping on the opportunity 2178 01:50:47,651 --> 01:50:48,619 presented by the activists. 2179 01:50:48,619 --> 01:50:48,819 We got a bout of emails and 2180 01:50:48,819 --> 01:50:49,486 calls. 2181 01:50:49,486 --> 01:50:50,320 Our employees to the animal 2182 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,288 advisory board are inundated. 2183 01:50:51,288 --> 01:50:54,888 Wanted to thank you and commend 2184 01:51:07,371 --> 01:51:08,710 you for that. 2185 01:51:08,710 --> 01:51:11,710 And supplement what is offered 2186 01:51:13,911 --> 01:51:14,711 as a standup of the clinic and 2187 01:51:14,711 --> 01:51:15,712 the only reason I brought up 2188 01:51:15,712 --> 01:51:18,582 the question as we have folks 2189 01:51:18,582 --> 01:51:19,116 want to help the community and 2190 01:51:19,116 --> 01:51:19,416 so not not close the door 2191 01:51:19,416 --> 01:51:20,217 completely. 2192 01:51:20,217 --> 01:51:23,817 Maybe down the line we figure 2193 01:51:25,756 --> 01:51:26,723 out our vet clinic can't 2194 01:51:26,723 --> 01:51:27,657 respond to the demand alone and 2195 01:51:27,657 --> 01:51:28,826 be able to bring community 2196 01:51:28,826 --> 01:51:28,959 partners doing great work 2197 01:51:28,959 --> 01:51:29,927 . 2198 01:51:29,927 --> 01:51:32,229 Again, we will be supporting 2199 01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:34,565 this wholeheartedly and knowing 2200 01:51:34,565 --> 01:51:35,199 we have an opportunity and 2201 01:51:35,199 --> 01:51:37,599 subsequent use to supplement 2202 01:51:38,969 --> 01:51:42,569 this with a program that looks 2203 01:51:43,907 --> 01:51:44,908 at community as well. 2204 01:51:44,908 --> 01:51:45,943 >> I want to say when we can 2205 01:51:45,943 --> 01:51:46,844 leverage the volunteer 2206 01:51:46,844 --> 01:51:48,844 community 2207 01:51:53,450 --> 01:51:54,451 on something of this nature. 2208 01:51:54,451 --> 01:51:55,385 It is something worth doing 2209 01:51:55,385 --> 01:51:56,753 rather than trying to put this 2210 01:51:56,753 --> 01:52:00,353 completely on the backs of the 2211 01:52:02,590 --> 01:52:03,600 government officials when we 2212 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:03,961 have interested parties willing 2213 01:52:03,961 --> 01:52:08,161 to step up and take on the 2214 01:52:11,340 --> 01:52:11,702 challenge and do it. 2215 01:52:11,702 --> 01:52:13,702 Government can sometimes 2216 01:52:20,477 --> 01:52:21,378 provide the resources of the 2217 01:52:21,378 --> 01:52:22,379 work that can be done hubby 2218 01:52:22,379 --> 01:52:22,946 leverage more outside of the 2219 01:52:22,946 --> 01:52:23,380 government within the 2220 01:52:23,380 --> 01:52:25,380 community. 2221 01:52:26,350 --> 01:52:27,351 Thank you for your leadership 2222 01:52:27,351 --> 01:52:27,518 we have had many folks come 2223 01:52:27,518 --> 01:52:29,518 and. 2224 01:52:30,854 --> 01:52:31,855 >> Kenny Boddye: us and I live 2225 01:52:31,855 --> 01:52:33,855 in knoxville 2226 01:52:33,891 --> 01:52:34,591 . 2227 01:52:34,591 --> 01:52:36,994 Coyotes take care of the cats 2228 01:52:36,994 --> 01:52:37,940 out there 2229 01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:39,940 . 2230 01:52:40,664 --> 01:52:41,698 I'm just kidding. 2231 01:52:41,698 --> 01:52:44,698 There is natural selection that 2232 01:52:45,636 --> 01:52:46,637 takes place in some parts of 2233 01:52:46,637 --> 01:52:47,204 the county that doesn't take 2234 01:52:47,204 --> 01:52:50,804 place in other parts of the 2235 01:52:54,878 --> 01:52:55,913 county. 2236 01:52:55,913 --> 01:53:00,113 It's a problem that needs to be 2237 01:53:00,384 --> 01:53:01,418 addressed looking at a 2238 01:53:01,418 --> 01:53:04,254 community solution is the right 2239 01:53:04,254 --> 01:53:08,454 way to go and I appreciate the 2240 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:10,761 work that is been done. 2241 01:53:10,761 --> 01:53:11,361 >> Chair Deshundra: you know 2242 01:53:11,361 --> 01:53:14,640 how much I love cats. 2243 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:15,132 >> any dog people out there? 2244 01:53:15,132 --> 01:53:16,834 >> Chair Deshundra: let's move 2245 01:53:16,834 --> 01:53:16,900 on 2246 01:53:16,900 --> 01:53:17,633 . 2247 01:53:17,633 --> 01:53:21,833 I would like to call for the 2248 01:53:29,790 --> 01:53:30,147 vote. 2249 01:53:30,147 --> 01:53:33,147 >> Chair Deshundra: let's go to 2250 01:53:33,884 --> 01:53:34,510 public comment time 2251 01:53:34,510 --> 01:53:34,718 . 2252 01:53:34,718 --> 01:53:35,652 For those of you if this is 2253 01:53:35,652 --> 01:53:36,520 your first time speaking I will 2254 01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,222 call people up in groups of 2255 01:53:38,222 --> 01:53:38,288 five 2256 01:53:38,288 --> 01:53:40,288 . 2257 01:53:43,894 --> 01:53:44,595 He will go to the back. 2258 01:53:44,595 --> 01:53:45,629 You will do minutes to speak on 2259 01:53:45,629 --> 01:53:46,530 any item you are choosing pick 2260 01:53:46,530 --> 01:53:47,300 up the back screen is a timer. 2261 01:53:47,300 --> 01:53:49,300 Please watch it. 2262 01:53:53,370 --> 01:53:54,338 I ask that everyone begin by 2263 01:53:54,338 --> 01:53:56,640 stating your name and where you 2264 01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:57,174 reside. 2265 01:53:57,174 --> 01:53:58,809 I don't need your address 2266 01:53:58,809 --> 01:53:58,876 unless you want to give it 2267 01:53:58,876 --> 01:54:00,876 . 2268 01:54:08,118 --> 01:54:08,785 But where you the manchester 2269 01:54:08,785 --> 01:54:09,586 adjuster to where you reside. 2270 01:54:09,586 --> 01:54:10,420 First I will call up john 2271 01:54:10,420 --> 01:54:12,820 payne, chris brown, keith 2272 01:54:18,227 --> 01:54:19,229 snyder, sunny kofi. 2273 01:54:19,229 --> 01:54:19,729 Going to call up six people 2274 01:54:19,729 --> 01:54:22,729 because I only have six. 2275 01:54:23,700 --> 01:54:27,300 Kimberly and melanie if each of 2276 01:54:30,340 --> 01:54:31,341 you can go to the bank. 2277 01:54:31,341 --> 01:54:32,342 Start by saying your name in 2278 01:54:32,342 --> 01:54:32,576 magisterial district where you 2279 01:54:32,576 --> 01:54:34,576 reside. 2280 01:54:40,951 --> 01:54:42,951 You MAY begin. 2281 01:54:43,387 --> 01:54:45,387 >> adopted noon. 2282 01:54:48,125 --> 01:54:48,792 My name is john payne. 2283 01:54:48,792 --> 01:54:49,626 I live in the coles district 2284 01:54:49,626 --> 01:54:50,627 only jackson drive. 2285 01:54:50,627 --> 01:54:52,963 I've been a resident for 40 2286 01:54:52,963 --> 01:54:56,563 years and I've been a resident 2287 01:54:58,268 --> 01:54:59,100 all my life I wanted is your 2288 01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,472 history with you with respect 2289 01:55:01,472 --> 01:55:05,672 to what I'm asking when I came 2290 01:55:05,943 --> 01:55:08,110 back from college in 74, the 2291 01:55:08,110 --> 01:55:11,110 town of manassas was crippled 2292 01:55:13,917 --> 01:55:14,840 by economic decline 2293 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:14,718 . 2294 01:55:14,718 --> 01:55:15,619 My father was on the city 2295 01:55:15,619 --> 01:55:16,553 council and he and I worked on 2296 01:55:16,553 --> 01:55:17,988 the idea of creating a historic 2297 01:55:17,988 --> 01:55:20,657 district and I did a lotto leg 2298 01:55:20,657 --> 01:55:23,570 work creating a historic 2299 01:55:24,228 --> 01:55:24,361 district of manassas 2300 01:55:24,361 --> 01:55:25,362 . 2301 01:55:25,362 --> 01:55:26,263 it was not popular but it paid 2302 01:55:26,263 --> 01:55:29,863 its fruits today and you can 2303 01:55:30,467 --> 01:55:31,768 see what happened because of 2304 01:55:31,768 --> 01:55:34,904 the preservation of some of the 2305 01:55:34,904 --> 01:55:36,600 properties. 2306 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,606 There is one gentleman who was 2307 01:55:39,910 --> 01:55:40,878 a historian vicki said I don't 2308 01:55:40,878 --> 01:55:41,545 know why you're doing this 2309 01:55:41,545 --> 01:55:43,945 because everything worth saving 2310 01:55:44,248 --> 01:55:44,348 is gone 2311 01:55:44,348 --> 01:55:45,282 . 2312 01:55:45,282 --> 01:55:48,886 I don't want that to be the 2313 01:55:48,886 --> 01:55:51,188 case my father was a city 2314 01:55:51,188 --> 01:55:53,188 COUNCILMAN Responsible for 2315 01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:57,995 location of the manassas 2316 01:55:57,995 --> 01:55:59,995 airport instrumental in 2317 01:56:00,297 --> 01:56:01,298 beginning like manassas on that 2318 01:56:01,298 --> 01:56:03,934 counsel spent money in a way 2319 01:56:03,934 --> 01:56:06,934 fully visioned in the future 2320 01:56:08,772 --> 01:56:09,706 they understood the need and 2321 01:56:09,706 --> 01:56:10,400 our accounting as a result of 2322 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,400 that. 2323 01:56:14,411 --> 01:56:14,645 Was a resident there were 1800 2324 01:56:14,645 --> 01:56:16,645 people. 2325 01:56:18,882 --> 01:56:21,282 I think there were 190,000+ 2326 01:56:28,125 --> 01:56:28,959 that have manassas as an area. 2327 01:56:28,959 --> 01:56:33,159 As we go down the parkway there 2328 01:56:33,330 --> 01:56:33,997 are two barns that been saved 2329 01:56:33,997 --> 01:56:35,399 and asked you what would to 2330 01:56:35,399 --> 01:56:38,399 silos be without the barn 2331 01:56:39,503 --> 01:56:40,270 . 2332 01:56:40,270 --> 01:56:41,138 My request is he reconsider the 2333 01:56:41,138 --> 01:56:44,138 task of looking up bennett 2334 01:56:44,408 --> 01:56:44,508 school 2335 01:56:44,508 --> 01:56:45,442 . 2336 01:56:45,442 --> 01:56:49,420 When I was taught as an 2337 01:56:50,614 --> 01:56:51,281 architect, you never drew more 2338 01:56:51,281 --> 01:56:52,149 in the morning they did you 2339 01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:53,116 could raise in the afternoon 2340 01:56:53,116 --> 01:56:56,716 this is an opportunity to look 2341 01:56:57,387 --> 01:57:00,987 up what its importance this to 2342 01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:03,293 the residence and the culture 2343 01:57:03,293 --> 01:57:03,927 of prince william county. 2344 01:57:03,927 --> 01:57:07,527 A lotta people of talked about 2345 01:57:07,931 --> 01:57:10,331 the with previous speeches. 2346 01:57:10,767 --> 01:57:14,367 I was present when it took 2347 01:57:17,574 --> 01:57:18,675 place at the school and I think 2348 01:57:18,675 --> 01:57:19,576 the architectural character can 2349 01:57:19,576 --> 01:57:20,444 be incorporated into the new 2350 01:57:20,444 --> 01:57:23,444 courthouse so if someone was 2351 01:57:23,881 --> 01:57:24,815 asking direction they would not 2352 01:57:24,815 --> 01:57:25,820 see the big building that down 2353 01:57:25,820 --> 01:57:27,820 there. 2354 01:57:28,519 --> 01:57:30,454 Looks think education epic part 2355 01:57:30,454 --> 01:57:32,454 of the courthouse. 2356 01:57:35,580 --> 01:57:36,126 Thank you very much. 2357 01:57:36,126 --> 01:57:38,526 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 2358 01:57:49,540 --> 01:57:50,574 Next speaker, please. 2359 01:57:50,574 --> 01:57:51,608 >> my speech is stuck in the 2360 01:57:51,608 --> 01:57:54,411 computer so I will read it from 2361 01:57:54,411 --> 01:57:54,511 here 2362 01:57:54,511 --> 01:57:55,479 . 2363 01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:59,790 I've come to speak about the 2364 01:58:09,159 --> 01:58:09,893 proposed lodges proposed for 2365 01:58:09,893 --> 01:58:13,493 the corner of tarp and then 55 2366 01:58:17,267 --> 01:58:17,334 in gainesville 2367 01:58:17,334 --> 01:58:18,435 . 2368 01:58:18,435 --> 01:58:21,435 My reasons opposing the project 2369 01:58:21,705 --> 01:58:22,372 are twofold. 2370 01:58:22,372 --> 01:58:23,240 The first of which is the 2371 01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,840 traffic it will bring to my 2372 01:58:27,211 --> 01:58:28,145 neighborhood we are to have the 2373 01:58:28,145 --> 01:58:30,545 congestion caused by the 2374 01:58:31,140 --> 01:58:31,810 construction across the street 2375 01:58:31,810 --> 01:58:33,810 . 2376 01:58:34,418 --> 01:58:37,154 If this is approved we would 2377 01:58:37,154 --> 01:58:37,855 have a will more traffic. 2378 01:58:37,855 --> 01:58:39,389 Who up to contend with the 2379 01:58:39,389 --> 01:58:39,790 daily truck traffic by the 2380 01:58:39,790 --> 01:58:41,790 warehouse. 2381 01:58:44,428 --> 01:58:44,561 Across the street 2382 01:58:44,561 --> 01:58:45,496 . 2383 01:58:45,496 --> 01:58:46,563 >> Chair Deshundra: hold on. 2384 01:58:46,563 --> 01:58:50,163 E are actually going to have 2385 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:52,936 a public hearing on the topic 2386 01:58:52,936 --> 01:58:53,537 vicki will have a chance to 2387 01:58:53,537 --> 01:58:55,839 speak in the public hearing 2388 01:58:55,839 --> 01:58:56,600 rather than public comment time 2389 01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:56,907 . 2390 01:58:56,907 --> 01:58:59,907 During the public hearing same 2391 01:59:02,546 --> 01:59:03,413 rules, but better captures your 2392 01:59:03,413 --> 01:59:06,413 comments on there might be 2393 01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:07,985 other people speaking about 2394 01:59:07,985 --> 01:59:08,952 particular issues I wanted to 2395 01:59:08,952 --> 01:59:11,952 give you the opportunity to 2396 01:59:18,428 --> 01:59:19,196 speak then. 2397 01:59:19,196 --> 01:59:20,164 >> you don't want me to finish. 2398 01:59:20,164 --> 01:59:21,131 >> Chair Deshundra: you can but 2399 01:59:21,131 --> 01:59:21,965 it would be better for you to 2400 01:59:21,965 --> 01:59:22,866 speak in the public hearing. 2401 01:59:22,866 --> 01:59:23,467 >> is that hours from now? 2402 01:59:23,467 --> 01:59:24,200 Be when it is next on the 2403 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:25,502 agenda we will see if we have 2404 01:59:25,502 --> 01:59:29,720 anyone virtual and then we go 2405 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,472 to the public hearing. 2406 01:59:32,342 --> 01:59:35,479 It's not going to take forever. 2407 01:59:35,479 --> 01:59:35,879 >> will be the second speaker 2408 01:59:35,879 --> 01:59:36,613 quick. 2409 01:59:36,613 --> 01:59:37,447 >> Chair Deshundra: keith, are 2410 01:59:37,447 --> 01:59:41,647 you also here for that or what 2411 01:59:42,753 --> 01:59:43,787 are you here for? 2412 01:59:43,787 --> 01:59:44,788 >> I'm here to request we start 2413 01:59:44,788 --> 01:59:46,657 looking at sanitizing data 2414 01:59:46,657 --> 01:59:46,790 centers 2415 01:59:46,790 --> 01:59:47,758 . 2416 01:59:47,758 --> 01:59:48,425 >> Chair Deshundra: go on. 2417 01:59:48,425 --> 01:59:51,495 State your name and where you 2418 01:59:51,495 --> 01:59:52,162 reside. 2419 01:59:52,162 --> 01:59:52,596 >> and we use the overhead 2420 01:59:52,596 --> 01:59:54,596 projector? 2421 01:59:56,433 --> 01:59:57,301 >> Chair Deshundra: you can. 2422 01:59:57,301 --> 02:00:01,501 It is going to take us a 2423 02:00:11,482 --> 02:00:13,482 minute. 2424 02:00:15,853 --> 02:00:16,720 >> my name is stevie. 2425 02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,720 I live in the gainesville 2426 02:00:20,657 --> 02:00:21,358 district. 2427 02:00:21,358 --> 02:00:22,826 With no proactive measures in 2428 02:00:22,826 --> 02:00:24,826 place 2429 02:00:26,530 --> 02:00:28,930 , ai pornography will do 2430 02:00:31,340 --> 02:00:31,101 our datacenter to man 2431 02:00:31,101 --> 02:00:33,101 . 2432 02:00:38,542 --> 02:00:39,510 And answer exists. 2433 02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:41,211 This is the official federal 2434 02:00:41,211 --> 02:00:44,211 standards for disposing of data 2435 02:00:46,115 --> 02:00:48,115 storage media. 2436 02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:51,210 Members of the board, we have 2437 02:00:51,210 --> 02:00:51,922 300 datacenter is constructed 2438 02:00:51,922 --> 02:00:52,855 in our state that are without 2439 02:00:52,855 --> 02:00:54,855 power. 2440 02:00:57,940 --> 02:00:57,661 Not sure how much tax revenue 2441 02:00:57,661 --> 02:00:58,729 those are generating. 2442 02:00:58,729 --> 02:00:59,962 We allowed the clearcutting of 2443 02:00:59,962 --> 02:01:02,962 our forests and destruction of 2444 02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,000 watersheds to build monuments 2445 02:01:07,571 --> 02:01:08,205 to grid failure and for what. 2446 02:01:08,205 --> 02:01:09,206 If you analyze the server 2447 02:01:09,206 --> 02:01:10,707 demand driving this endless 2448 02:01:10,707 --> 02:01:11,408 expansion, you will find it is 2449 02:01:11,408 --> 02:01:13,277 bloated by the hoarding of 2450 02:01:13,277 --> 02:01:13,944 illicit 2451 02:01:13,944 --> 02:01:15,944 , degrading and illegal 2452 02:01:17,748 --> 02:01:17,881 content 2453 02:01:17,881 --> 02:01:18,782 . 2454 02:01:18,782 --> 02:01:19,817 We are sacrificing our 2455 02:01:19,817 --> 02:01:21,885 commonwealth to act as a 2456 02:01:21,885 --> 02:01:24,285 digital landfill think it's 2457 02:01:25,656 --> 02:01:29,256 time to serve the scrub clean 2458 02:01:34,498 --> 02:01:35,498 and digital waste before we 2459 02:01:35,498 --> 02:01:37,898 think about approving another 2460 02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:39,970 permit to poor mass of hot 2461 02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:42,370 footprint on our beloved 2462 02:01:42,539 --> 02:01:43,774 virginia to grieve a choice but 2463 02:01:43,774 --> 02:01:46,477 to protect the dignity and 2464 02:01:46,477 --> 02:01:47,478 integrity of this land or be 2465 02:01:47,478 --> 02:01:50,478 the architects of a disposable 2466 02:01:50,681 --> 02:01:50,747 planet 2467 02:01:50,747 --> 02:01:52,747 . 2468 02:01:53,917 --> 02:01:57,517 We the people are pleading to 2469 02:01:59,323 --> 02:02:00,257 elected officials everywhere. 2470 02:02:00,257 --> 02:02:00,858 Please clean up the data 2471 02:02:00,858 --> 02:02:03,858 centers and stop cutting down 2472 02:02:07,965 --> 02:02:08,632 the cherry trees. 2473 02:02:08,632 --> 02:02:09,199 Thank you. 2474 02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:09,967 I found the guidelines for 2475 02:02:09,967 --> 02:02:12,367 media sanitization in last 24 2476 02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:13,137 hours 2477 02:02:13,137 --> 02:02:13,804 . 2478 02:02:13,804 --> 02:02:16,804 I thought it was encouraging 2479 02:02:17,241 --> 02:02:17,307 that to be creative 2480 02:02:17,307 --> 02:02:18,308 . 2481 02:02:18,308 --> 02:02:21,308 It is quite enlightening to 2482 02:02:23,460 --> 02:02:25,460 find that exists. 2483 02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:29,186 Their processes 2484 02:02:29,186 --> 02:02:29,853 . 2485 02:02:29,853 --> 02:02:30,787 It is something that hasn't 2486 02:02:30,787 --> 02:02:31,622 been implemented because nobody 2487 02:02:31,622 --> 02:02:34,223 demanded it to be proactively 2488 02:02:34,223 --> 02:02:36,223 implemented. 2489 02:02:37,528 --> 02:02:38,428 This would really help a lot of 2490 02:02:38,428 --> 02:02:41,265 things take place with a lot 2491 02:02:41,265 --> 02:02:41,532 more sanity. 2492 02:02:41,532 --> 02:02:43,532 Thank you. 2493 02:02:46,569 --> 02:02:47,271 We can do this. 2494 02:02:47,271 --> 02:02:47,704 Our name is prince will im for 2495 02:02:47,704 --> 02:02:47,971 a reason. 2496 02:02:47,971 --> 02:02:49,971 Thank you. 2497 02:02:50,374 --> 02:02:52,774 Will im, will we 2498 02:02:59,490 --> 02:03:01,180 are. 2499 02:03:01,180 --> 02:03:03,180 >> Chair Deshundra: next 2500 02:03:21,872 --> 02:03:22,539 speaker, please. 2501 02:03:22,539 --> 02:03:22,706 could you put the timer back 2502 02:03:22,706 --> 02:03:23,841 on? 2503 02:03:23,841 --> 02:03:26,841 My name is doctor kimberly. 2504 02:03:27,344 --> 02:03:28,345 I am a resident of gainesville. 2505 02:03:28,345 --> 02:03:28,912 Last time I was here and I 2506 02:03:28,912 --> 02:03:33,112 spoke to you all I told you 2507 02:03:33,217 --> 02:03:33,884 about how their systematic 2508 02:03:33,884 --> 02:03:36,153 violation occurring in prince 2509 02:03:36,153 --> 02:03:36,887 william county virginia m. I 2510 02:03:36,887 --> 02:03:37,540 didn't hear back from anyone of 2511 02:03:37,540 --> 02:03:39,540 you. 2512 02:03:42,226 --> 02:03:43,127 Not one of you I heard 2513 02:03:43,127 --> 02:03:44,128 back from and that's 2514 02:03:44,128 --> 02:03:44,595 interesting because I told you 2515 02:03:44,595 --> 02:03:46,497 about how there was a 2516 02:03:46,497 --> 02:03:48,497 whistleblower teacher contacted 2517 02:03:53,303 --> 02:03:54,238 me on my cell phone saying they 2518 02:03:54,238 --> 02:03:55,239 are violating so much laws your 2519 02:03:55,239 --> 02:03:56,273 daughter civil rights are being 2520 02:03:56,273 --> 02:03:59,109 violated and they're trying to 2521 02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:59,776 sweep it under the rug. 2522 02:03:59,776 --> 02:04:03,376 My speech, one of them went 2523 02:04:04,448 --> 02:04:04,581 viral with 5 million views 2524 02:04:04,581 --> 02:04:05,582 . 2525 02:04:05,582 --> 02:04:06,250 And thankfully there are audio 2526 02:04:06,250 --> 02:04:08,650 recordings being posted for 2527 02:04:08,919 --> 02:04:09,987 anybody who wants to hear the 2528 02:04:09,987 --> 02:04:12,550 audio recordings go to insured 2529 02:04:12,550 --> 02:04:13,900 of help on costs. 2530 02:04:13,900 --> 02:04:15,192 The other interesting thing 2531 02:04:15,192 --> 02:04:17,294 happened that even though I 2532 02:04:17,294 --> 02:04:18,295 didn't hear back from you, I 2533 02:04:18,295 --> 02:04:21,295 did hear back from other 2534 02:04:21,865 --> 02:04:23,865 whistleblower teachers procure 2535 02:04:28,806 --> 02:04:29,540 is an email dated MAY 26. 2536 02:04:29,540 --> 02:04:30,574 You MAY want to dig into all of 2537 02:04:30,574 --> 02:04:31,542 the complaints including eye 2538 02:04:31,542 --> 02:04:32,509 level administrative people who 2539 02:04:32,509 --> 02:04:34,211 left because of the unethical 2540 02:04:34,211 --> 02:04:35,145 and illegal practices in 2541 02:04:35,145 --> 02:04:35,879 schools and central offices 2542 02:04:35,879 --> 02:04:36,460 would estimate in the hundreds 2543 02:04:36,460 --> 02:04:36,847 of 2544 02:04:36,847 --> 02:04:38,847 people. 2545 02:04:41,919 --> 02:04:42,953 This person emailed again but 2546 02:04:42,953 --> 02:04:43,954 they said they would only hire 2547 02:04:43,954 --> 02:04:47,554 young people who people who say 2548 02:04:48,192 --> 02:04:49,258 what they are told even though 2549 02:04:49,258 --> 02:04:52,858 it is unethical and illegal and 2550 02:04:52,930 --> 02:04:53,564 not right for kids. 2551 02:04:53,564 --> 02:04:54,665 submitted a request. 2552 02:04:54,665 --> 02:04:55,999 You talked about transparency. 2553 02:04:55,999 --> 02:04:56,667 I paid over $1000 this 2554 02:04:56,667 --> 02:04:59,667 whistleblower told me what to 2555 02:04:59,670 --> 02:05:00,270 ask for your internal documents 2556 02:05:00,270 --> 02:05:02,670 pick people talking about 2557 02:05:03,340 --> 02:05:05,275 restraint of disabled kids, 2558 02:05:05,275 --> 02:05:05,909 disk termination, seclusion, 2559 02:05:05,909 --> 02:05:08,309 very serious civil rights 2560 02:05:09,460 --> 02:05:10,470 violations to get paid over 2561 02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:11,448 $1000 and it is still being 2562 02:05:11,448 --> 02:05:11,515 withheld 2563 02:05:11,515 --> 02:05:13,515 . 2564 02:05:14,852 --> 02:05:15,185 I have to go to court to try to 2565 02:05:15,185 --> 02:05:17,200 get it. 2566 02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:20,200 I'm asking for the federal 2567 02:05:20,524 --> 02:05:21,258 government to investigate this 2568 02:05:21,258 --> 02:05:24,258 school district board for what 2569 02:05:25,863 --> 02:05:26,763 they are allowing because it is 2570 02:05:26,763 --> 02:05:27,297 a civil rights abuse like no 2571 02:05:27,297 --> 02:05:28,232 other we have seen. 2572 02:05:28,232 --> 02:05:31,368 I ask you to put this up here 2573 02:05:31,368 --> 02:05:31,568 because we also talked about 2574 02:05:31,568 --> 02:05:32,402 money. 2575 02:05:32,402 --> 02:05:36,200 You are quibbling over how to 2576 02:05:36,206 --> 02:05:37,207 spend 3 to 5 grand piglets look 2577 02:05:37,207 --> 02:05:38,142 at the invoices of what your 2578 02:05:38,142 --> 02:05:41,142 school district, mind you I 2579 02:05:41,645 --> 02:05:41,778 mentioned that wade anderson 2580 02:05:41,778 --> 02:05:42,279 , 2581 02:05:42,279 --> 02:05:43,247 former employee. 2582 02:05:43,247 --> 02:05:43,413 Let's see what he is paying 2583 02:05:43,413 --> 02:05:45,413 for. 2584 02:05:45,949 --> 02:05:49,549 And here is one invoice for 2585 02:05:52,723 --> 02:05:53,357 $55,000 in one month. 2586 02:05:53,357 --> 02:05:54,224 Is another one for 37,000. 2587 02:05:54,224 --> 02:05:57,161 Is another one for $99,000 a 2588 02:05:57,161 --> 02:05:59,696 month figure is another one for 2589 02:05:59,696 --> 02:06:01,465 $34,000 in one month that goes 2590 02:06:01,465 --> 02:06:02,699 on and on and on. 2591 02:06:02,699 --> 02:06:03,700 What else do they have. 2592 02:06:03,700 --> 02:06:06,100 You're paying for these 2593 02:06:07,171 --> 02:06:11,371 attorneys to eat and stay at a 2594 02:06:13,877 --> 02:06:14,511 residence in that's where our 2595 02:06:14,511 --> 02:06:15,612 tax dollars are going. 2596 02:06:15,612 --> 02:06:18,348 The level of fraud, corruption, 2597 02:06:18,348 --> 02:06:19,160 abuse of our funds is 2598 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:19,950 astronomical and if you don't 2599 02:06:19,950 --> 02:06:21,118 do anything musky for the 2600 02:06:21,118 --> 02:06:22,520 federal government to 2601 02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:24,452 investigate because it is 2602 02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:31,610 disgusting. 2603 02:06:31,610 --> 02:06:32,290 >> Chair Deshundra: I want to 2604 02:06:32,290 --> 02:06:32,996 acknowledge we don't have the 2605 02:06:32,996 --> 02:06:35,396 authority to investigate the 2606 02:06:35,532 --> 02:06:36,533 school board. 2607 02:06:36,533 --> 02:06:37,234 They are a separately elected 2608 02:06:37,234 --> 02:06:38,502 body you are still welcome to 2609 02:06:38,502 --> 02:06:40,502 come and speak. 2610 02:06:42,639 --> 02:06:44,639 Next speaker, please. 2611 02:06:46,376 --> 02:06:48,776 >> my name is sonny. 2612 02:06:52,716 --> 02:06:53,450 I'm in the burnsville district. 2613 02:06:53,450 --> 02:06:57,650 I am here to talk about senate 2614 02:07:02,126 --> 02:07:04,128 bill sb 45 the past the 2615 02:07:04,128 --> 02:07:07,128 legislature and it involves the 2616 02:07:09,366 --> 02:07:09,967 implementation of the 2617 02:07:09,967 --> 02:07:10,330 comprehensive plan 2618 02:07:10,330 --> 02:07:12,330 . 2619 02:07:14,905 --> 02:07:16,730 It says to all the next is will 2620 02:07:16,730 --> 02:07:18,730 a subsequent comprehensive 2621 02:07:21,378 --> 02:07:22,813 plans and the opportunities are 2622 02:07:22,813 --> 02:07:25,213 there to identify environmental 2623 02:07:27,651 --> 02:07:29,651 justice in communities. 2624 02:07:30,454 --> 02:07:32,454 That's it. 2625 02:07:34,558 --> 02:07:37,600 Thank you for your time. 2626 02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:39,460 >> thank you very much. 2627 02:07:43,734 --> 02:07:44,601 Next speaker, please. 2628 02:07:44,601 --> 02:07:46,670 >> my name is melody. 2629 02:07:46,670 --> 02:07:46,737 I've spoken a billion times 2630 02:07:46,737 --> 02:07:47,337 . 2631 02:07:47,337 --> 02:07:50,937 I wanted to take a quick 2632 02:07:53,644 --> 02:07:54,378 moment. 2633 02:07:54,378 --> 02:07:55,312 And since all of you enjoy an 2634 02:07:55,312 --> 02:07:56,313 email and I appreciate you guys 2635 02:07:56,313 --> 02:07:59,313 bringing some of the questions 2636 02:08:03,860 --> 02:08:03,220 forward 2637 02:08:03,220 --> 02:08:04,221 . 2638 02:08:04,221 --> 02:08:05,222 I do want to state as a first 2639 02:08:05,222 --> 02:08:06,223 responder I do actually support 2640 02:08:06,223 --> 02:08:06,924 the underlying public safety 2641 02:08:06,924 --> 02:08:09,226 intent but I read the actual 2642 02:08:09,226 --> 02:08:12,826 mou and I had really grave 2643 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:14,231 concerns 2644 02:08:14,231 --> 02:08:15,199 . 2645 02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:15,399 If it is not written, it's not 2646 02:08:15,399 --> 02:08:16,200 real. 2647 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:17,634 You can say whatever you want 2648 02:08:17,634 --> 02:08:19,903 in the form like the chief of 2649 02:08:19,903 --> 02:08:23,503 police said we don't do them. 2650 02:08:24,608 --> 02:08:26,977 Not we can do that or we 2651 02:08:26,977 --> 02:08:27,211 haven't done that, not we can't 2652 02:08:27,211 --> 02:08:28,745 do that. 2653 02:08:28,745 --> 02:08:31,745 There are wordings that worry 2654 02:08:32,249 --> 02:08:33,450 me because it's a really broad 2655 02:08:33,450 --> 02:08:37,650 road you can drive a lot of 2656 02:08:37,688 --> 02:08:39,688 trucks through there. 2657 02:08:40,570 --> 02:08:40,891 Before we implement the pilots 2658 02:08:40,891 --> 02:08:43,891 and finalize some of this 2659 02:08:47,998 --> 02:08:48,866 stuff, everybody in the room 2660 02:08:48,866 --> 02:08:49,600 has heard ben franklin say 2661 02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:52,136 those who sacrifice liberty for 2662 02:08:52,136 --> 02:08:53,670 safety deserve neither liberty 2663 02:08:53,670 --> 02:08:55,670 or safety. 2664 02:08:56,273 --> 02:08:57,274 Public safety is a valid 2665 02:08:57,274 --> 02:09:01,474 concern but so is the right to 2666 02:09:01,979 --> 02:09:02,913 privacy weeks was the right to 2667 02:09:02,913 --> 02:09:05,913 move around this county doing 2668 02:09:06,316 --> 02:09:07,684 whatever you want to do within 2669 02:09:07,684 --> 02:09:08,352 the boundaries of the law and 2670 02:09:08,352 --> 02:09:11,352 not be observed for somebody 2671 02:09:11,555 --> 02:09:12,289 else to judge those actions. 2672 02:09:12,289 --> 02:09:14,570 The other thing I want to point 2673 02:09:14,570 --> 02:09:14,725 out someone who works with 2674 02:09:14,725 --> 02:09:16,725 facial recognition fairly 2675 02:09:18,896 --> 02:09:19,463 regularly 2676 02:09:19,463 --> 02:09:19,997 . 2677 02:09:19,997 --> 02:09:22,990 Because you don't in your 2678 02:09:22,990 --> 02:09:23,567 contract of access to all the 2679 02:09:23,567 --> 02:09:26,567 data the cameras collect, there 2680 02:09:26,703 --> 02:09:30,303 are many companies and this has 2681 02:09:32,442 --> 02:09:33,177 borne out nationally. 2682 02:09:33,177 --> 02:09:34,444 What they sell to you is not 2683 02:09:34,444 --> 02:09:37,514 often the sum total of what 2684 02:09:37,514 --> 02:09:38,549 their devices actually collect. 2685 02:09:38,549 --> 02:09:40,949 Just because principal them 2686 02:09:45,489 --> 02:09:46,399 doesn't have access 2687 02:09:46,399 --> 02:09:46,622 , if they 2688 02:09:46,622 --> 02:09:47,658 contract to a company where 2689 02:09:47,658 --> 02:09:48,292 their devices are capable of 2690 02:09:48,292 --> 02:09:50,594 facial recognition they MAY be 2691 02:09:50,594 --> 02:09:51,628 collecting facial recognition 2692 02:09:51,628 --> 02:09:52,429 and you were not paying for it. 2693 02:09:52,429 --> 02:09:53,130 That your point, there are 2694 02:09:53,130 --> 02:09:54,231 plenty of facial recognition 2695 02:09:54,231 --> 02:09:57,231 things going on but the 2696 02:09:58,302 --> 02:09:59,360 argument everybody is doing it 2697 02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:03,236 is juvenile and I think that we 2698 02:10:06,410 --> 02:10:07,411 can do better. 2699 02:10:07,411 --> 02:10:08,412 Would recommend or I would 2700 02:10:08,412 --> 02:10:09,413 respectfully ask the board hold 2701 02:10:09,413 --> 02:10:09,980 public comment sessions before 2702 02:10:09,980 --> 02:10:12,716 we start rolling this out 2703 02:10:12,716 --> 02:10:12,883 permanently 2704 02:10:12,883 --> 02:10:13,584 . 2705 02:10:13,584 --> 02:10:14,351 I would ask you amend some of 2706 02:10:14,351 --> 02:10:15,385 these to narrow what 2707 02:10:15,385 --> 02:10:17,554 circumstances are defined as a. 2708 02:10:17,554 --> 02:10:19,490 Emergency means a lot of things 2709 02:10:19,490 --> 02:10:20,190 to a lot of different people 2710 02:10:20,190 --> 02:10:23,190 there big laws about what 2711 02:10:24,270 --> 02:10:26,427 public rights those have. 2712 02:10:28,665 --> 02:10:29,800 I would ask you require some 2713 02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:31,680 level of independently review 2714 02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:34,668 of how these programs are used 2715 02:10:38,108 --> 02:10:39,760 in put public notice and 2716 02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:39,643 signage at the mall with 2717 02:10:39,643 --> 02:10:39,877 deletion policies publicly 2718 02:10:39,877 --> 02:10:41,780 posted. 2719 02:10:41,780 --> 02:10:44,448 I would ask you to establish it 2720 02:10:44,448 --> 02:10:44,615 complaint process 2721 02:10:44,615 --> 02:10:45,582 . 2722 02:10:45,582 --> 02:10:46,250 I have plenty more to say so 2723 02:10:46,250 --> 02:10:46,550 thank you so much for your 2724 02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:48,550 time. 2725 02:10:51,221 --> 02:10:52,222 I appreciate it. 2726 02:10:52,222 --> 02:10:53,257 >> Chair Deshundra: we are 2727 02:10:53,257 --> 02:10:53,590 going to move to remote public 2728 02:10:53,590 --> 02:10:55,590 comment time. 2729 02:10:57,361 --> 02:10:58,950 To be have anyone? 2730 02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:58,929 >> I have a list of 10 but do 2731 02:10:58,929 --> 02:11:01,329 we have any online? 2732 02:11:01,632 --> 02:11:05,232 >> we do not have anybody on 2733 02:11:05,903 --> 02:11:07,400 line. 2734 02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:09,404 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 2735 02:11:10,140 --> 02:11:12,140 so very much. 2736 02:11:15,512 --> 02:11:16,180 We are now moving to agenda 2737 02:11:16,180 --> 02:11:17,114 item number eight practices 2738 02:11:17,114 --> 02:11:19,514 including consolidated land use 2739 02:11:20,830 --> 02:11:22,830 cases. 2740 02:11:24,555 --> 02:11:25,422 Before I move on, I want to see 2741 02:11:25,422 --> 02:11:26,924 if anyone had anything that 2742 02:11:26,924 --> 02:11:29,993 they wanted to pull her public 2743 02:11:29,993 --> 02:11:30,561 hearings under agenda item 2744 02:11:30,561 --> 02:11:32,561 number eight 2745 02:11:39,736 --> 02:11:41,736 . 2746 02:11:43,106 --> 02:11:46,106 If it is for purposes. 2747 02:11:48,879 --> 02:11:49,146 I'm going to do public hearings 2748 02:11:49,146 --> 02:11:50,130 . 2749 02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:51,480 If it is for purposes of you 2750 02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:54,480 wanting to vote something down, 2751 02:11:54,718 --> 02:11:55,419 we can get to that. 2752 02:11:55,419 --> 02:11:56,253 But I see that you are in the 2753 02:11:56,253 --> 02:11:56,787 queue so what did you have, 2754 02:11:56,787 --> 02:11:58,787 supervisor stewart? 2755 02:12:02,392 --> 02:12:03,894 >> George Stewart: for item 8f 2756 02:12:03,894 --> 02:12:04,795 wanted to make clear it is 2757 02:12:04,795 --> 02:12:07,795 going to be the proper 2758 02:12:08,966 --> 02:12:10,200 statement dated 1/SEPTEMBER and 2759 02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:13,800 a copy has been provided to 2760 02:12:21,678 --> 02:12:22,679 everyone here on the dais and I 2761 02:12:22,679 --> 02:12:23,614 ask the applicant include two 2762 02:12:23,614 --> 02:12:24,248 proffers as it relates to 2763 02:12:24,248 --> 02:12:24,948 landscaping that is on the 2764 02:12:24,948 --> 02:12:27,948 second and third page proffer 2765 02:12:28,852 --> 02:12:29,853 three a and b. Three a is the 2766 02:12:29,853 --> 02:12:31,822 applicant will coordinate for 2767 02:12:31,822 --> 02:12:32,689 supplemental plantings within 2768 02:12:32,689 --> 02:12:35,159 the buffer of the adjacent 2769 02:12:35,159 --> 02:12:36,193 school property. 2770 02:12:36,193 --> 02:12:38,729 Coordination will be with the 2771 02:12:38,729 --> 02:12:39,563 county arborist prior to the 2772 02:12:39,563 --> 02:12:41,963 final site plan approval. 2773 02:12:45,102 --> 02:12:46,360 And 2774 02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:47,700 three become the applicant 2775 02:12:47,700 --> 02:12:48,370 committed to included plant 2776 02:12:48,370 --> 02:12:48,705 species identified through 2777 02:12:48,705 --> 02:12:51,105 hollow ground living legacy 2778 02:12:52,909 --> 02:12:53,811 treeplanting as permitted by 2779 02:12:53,811 --> 02:12:54,678 the county and the buffers 2780 02:12:54,678 --> 02:12:57,678 along arpin road and john 2781 02:12:59,683 --> 02:12:59,817 marshall highway 2782 02:12:59,817 --> 02:13:00,517 . 2783 02:13:00,517 --> 02:13:01,285 I also wanted to make it clear 2784 02:13:01,285 --> 02:13:03,821 the county would not be 2785 02:13:03,821 --> 02:13:06,821 responsible to fulfill any of 2786 02:13:08,292 --> 02:13:08,392 the proffer obligations 2787 02:13:08,392 --> 02:13:09,460 . 2788 02:13:09,460 --> 02:13:12,460 >> Andrea Bailey: I would like 2789 02:13:15,699 --> 02:13:16,700 to pull item 8n. 2790 02:13:16,700 --> 02:13:17,401 >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm 2791 02:13:17,401 --> 02:13:18,202 going to do is I'm going to go 2792 02:13:18,202 --> 02:13:18,902 ahead and open the public 2793 02:13:18,902 --> 02:13:21,902 hearing for item eight a 2794 02:13:22,172 --> 02:13:24,172 through 8m. 2795 02:13:24,208 --> 02:13:27,845 And we had a gentlemen who was 2796 02:13:27,845 --> 02:13:28,444 speaking earlier and he said he 2797 02:13:28,444 --> 02:13:31,444 could come back to the 2798 02:13:35,918 --> 02:13:36,520 microphone. 2799 02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:37,855 I believe it is MR. Chris 2800 02:13:37,855 --> 02:13:39,855 brown. 2801 02:13:41,157 --> 02:13:41,458 i will let you go first MR. 2802 02:13:41,458 --> 02:13:43,458 Chris brown. 2803 02:13:47,698 --> 02:13:48,632 I have melody miller that you 2804 02:13:48,632 --> 02:13:52,832 would like to speak on three of 2805 02:13:52,836 --> 02:13:52,936 the items 2806 02:13:52,936 --> 02:13:54,936 . 2807 02:13:57,508 --> 02:13:57,808 You can go to the back. 2808 02:13:57,808 --> 02:13:59,808 It is arpin. 2809 02:14:01,812 --> 02:14:02,813 There you go pick start with 2810 02:14:02,813 --> 02:14:06,413 saying your name and where you 2811 02:14:08,752 --> 02:14:09,319 reside. 2812 02:14:09,319 --> 02:14:10,254 >> this is take two. 2813 02:14:10,254 --> 02:14:12,254 Chris brown, gainesville 2814 02:14:15,659 --> 02:14:17,361 district. 2815 02:14:17,361 --> 02:14:20,961 I am opposed to this truck 2816 02:14:23,634 --> 02:14:24,601 terminal for several reasons. 2817 02:14:24,601 --> 02:14:25,502 The first of which the traffic 2818 02:14:25,502 --> 02:14:27,738 it will bring to my 2819 02:14:27,738 --> 02:14:28,739 neighborhood. 2820 02:14:28,739 --> 02:14:29,740 Weirded the congestion caused 2821 02:14:29,740 --> 02:14:32,740 by the data construction across 2822 02:14:35,450 --> 02:14:36,460 the street to get this is 2823 02:14:36,460 --> 02:14:36,380 approved we would have a more 2824 02:14:36,380 --> 02:14:37,114 more traffic. 2825 02:14:37,114 --> 02:14:38,480 Once the project is finished we 2826 02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:39,490 would have to contend with the 2827 02:14:39,490 --> 02:14:42,490 truck traffic caused by this 2828 02:14:42,419 --> 02:14:43,120 warehouse back across the 2829 02:14:43,120 --> 02:14:45,656 street they have refused to 2830 02:14:45,656 --> 02:14:46,256 honor the proffers they 2831 02:14:46,256 --> 02:14:46,890 promised five years ago 2832 02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:46,957 including a traffic light 2833 02:14:46,957 --> 02:14:48,957 , 2834 02:14:52,620 --> 02:14:52,663 turning lane 2835 02:14:52,663 --> 02:14:53,163 , sidewalks and 2836 02:14:53,163 --> 02:14:53,997 landscaping. 2837 02:14:53,997 --> 02:14:55,598 Because the county failed to 2838 02:14:55,598 --> 02:14:57,998 enforce these proffers, it's 2839 02:14:58,802 --> 02:15:01,202 unconscionable for the county 2840 02:15:01,505 --> 02:15:02,272 to consider adding more traffic 2841 02:15:02,272 --> 02:15:05,272 to an already congested area 2842 02:15:08,779 --> 02:15:09,513 with this warehouse project. 2843 02:15:09,513 --> 02:15:10,781 In addition there is a loss of 2844 02:15:10,781 --> 02:15:11,548 23 green forested acres in the 2845 02:15:11,548 --> 02:15:12,382 ecosystem that exists for the 2846 02:15:12,382 --> 02:15:13,684 developers along with the 2847 02:15:13,684 --> 02:15:14,251 planning commission and 2848 02:15:14,251 --> 02:15:16,651 possibly the board of 2849 02:15:18,922 --> 02:15:20,922 supervisors seemed determined 2850 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:23,961 . 2851 02:15:23,961 --> 02:15:24,661 and developers should choose a 2852 02:15:24,661 --> 02:15:27,661 vacant industrial site in the 2853 02:15:29,266 --> 02:15:29,399 county for the project 2854 02:15:29,399 --> 02:15:30,367 . 2855 02:15:30,367 --> 02:15:31,340 We would not have to rely on 2856 02:15:31,340 --> 02:15:34,634 ugly wind and solar farms to 2857 02:15:41,278 --> 02:15:43,678 fight climate change directly 2858 02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:47,280 across from the site years ago 2859 02:15:49,253 --> 02:15:50,187 we lost 103 acres of forest to 2860 02:15:50,187 --> 02:15:53,490 what is now the hyper school 2861 02:15:53,490 --> 02:15:53,557 datacenter in virginia 2862 02:15:53,557 --> 02:15:54,558 . 2863 02:15:54,558 --> 02:15:56,958 This 103 acres generate enough 2864 02:15:57,327 --> 02:15:59,960 heat on a summer day to fry an 2865 02:15:59,960 --> 02:15:59,863 egg. 2866 02:15:59,863 --> 02:16:03,000 There's no truth the site must 2867 02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:05,400 be developed with something 2868 02:16:11,909 --> 02:16:12,810 that is the least worse 2869 02:16:12,810 --> 02:16:13,410 alternative in these 23 acres 2870 02:16:13,410 --> 02:16:14,344 are best left in haiti. 2871 02:16:14,344 --> 02:16:14,945 Please do the right thing and 2872 02:16:14,945 --> 02:16:15,512 vote against this project. 2873 02:16:15,512 --> 02:16:16,613 Thank you. 2874 02:16:16,613 --> 02:16:19,130 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 2875 02:16:19,783 --> 02:16:20,450 so very much. 2876 02:16:20,450 --> 02:16:21,285 Melody, I know that you want 2877 02:16:21,285 --> 02:16:24,221 three things to speak on. 2878 02:16:24,221 --> 02:16:24,721 Will give you your three 2879 02:16:24,721 --> 02:16:25,823 minutes for 8/81. 2880 02:16:25,823 --> 02:16:29,423 Although we know who you are, 2881 02:16:29,460 --> 02:16:31,860 state your name pick 2882 02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:35,299 >> and I actually ask because 2883 02:16:35,299 --> 02:16:36,300 they are both on vacating trees 2884 02:16:36,300 --> 02:16:39,300 picket is a general statement 2885 02:16:41,104 --> 02:16:41,772 on the effect of the. 2886 02:16:41,772 --> 02:16:42,840 Can you combine those two? 2887 02:16:42,840 --> 02:16:42,906 Am trying to make this short 2888 02:16:42,906 --> 02:16:44,906 . 2889 02:16:49,460 --> 02:16:49,947 >> Chair Deshundra: I thought 2890 02:16:49,947 --> 02:16:50,881 it would be cleaner to give you 2891 02:16:50,881 --> 02:16:51,547 discrete, but you can take for 2892 02:16:51,547 --> 02:16:54,510 the three items you have you 2893 02:16:54,510 --> 02:16:55,986 can take you nine minutes. 2894 02:16:55,986 --> 02:17:00,186 Spoke I wanted to speak on a, 2895 02:17:03,460 --> 02:17:06,530 becoming g: f, k. It sexually 2896 02:17:06,530 --> 02:17:07,598 e, f and g. 2897 02:17:07,598 --> 02:17:07,931 >> Chair Deshundra: you want to 2898 02:17:07,931 --> 02:17:08,132 do five items? 2899 02:17:08,132 --> 02:17:10,132 Seven. 2900 02:17:12,669 --> 02:17:13,637 >> can we combine them? 2901 02:17:13,637 --> 02:17:15,472 >> Chair Deshundra: hold on 2902 02:17:15,472 --> 02:17:17,472 . 2903 02:17:20,844 --> 02:17:20,911 I will combine everything 2904 02:17:20,911 --> 02:17:22,911 . 2905 02:17:24,681 --> 02:17:28,281 That will be up to 21 minutes. 2906 02:17:38,829 --> 02:17:41,229 >> I will be quicker. 2907 02:17:44,535 --> 02:17:45,502 >> thank you melody. 2908 02:17:45,502 --> 02:17:47,404 >> my name is melody miller 2909 02:17:47,404 --> 02:17:49,273 from neabsco. 2910 02:17:49,273 --> 02:17:52,910 The first time is a and the 2911 02:17:52,910 --> 02:17:55,910 which is the tree vacation. 2912 02:17:59,817 --> 02:18:00,450 The high level that means 2913 02:18:00,450 --> 02:18:01,318 actions but the devitis 2914 02:18:01,318 --> 02:18:02,319 represent a fundamental 2915 02:18:02,319 --> 02:18:05,319 question about whether we honor 2916 02:18:06,456 --> 02:18:06,957 the commitments the public 2917 02:18:06,957 --> 02:18:07,691 sacrifice them. 2918 02:18:07,691 --> 02:18:08,625 Let me remind everybody the 2919 02:18:08,625 --> 02:18:09,460 land we are talking about was 2920 02:18:09,460 --> 02:18:10,294 supposed to be a proffer 2921 02:18:10,294 --> 02:18:13,294 agreement for the linear park. 2922 02:18:14,364 --> 02:18:15,332 That dedication stated it was 2923 02:18:15,332 --> 02:18:17,732 the intent that existing 2924 02:18:18,302 --> 02:18:20,302 non-native invasive vegetation 2925 02:18:22,940 --> 02:18:23,707 will remain undisturbed in any 2926 02:18:23,707 --> 02:18:24,608 construction would minimize the 2927 02:18:24,608 --> 02:18:26,710 amount of impact of the tca and 2928 02:18:26,710 --> 02:18:27,444 avoid removal the maximum 2929 02:18:27,444 --> 02:18:29,444 amount visible. 2930 02:18:30,581 --> 02:18:31,248 . 2931 02:18:31,248 --> 02:18:33,684 Malan is dedicated for uses 2932 02:18:33,684 --> 02:18:34,585 open space conservation and are 2933 02:18:34,585 --> 02:18:36,985 passive recreation is only. 2934 02:18:38,689 --> 02:18:39,490 That was the deal to protect 2935 02:18:39,490 --> 02:18:42,490 trees in exchange for the 2936 02:18:44,895 --> 02:18:45,629 development we are not honoring 2937 02:18:45,629 --> 02:18:46,762 proffers and that we are being 2938 02:18:46,762 --> 02:18:47,397 asked to vacate that her 2939 02:18:47,397 --> 02:18:49,397 protected tree conservation 2940 02:18:52,136 --> 02:18:53,700 area to serve private, not 2941 02:18:53,700 --> 02:18:54,710 public utilities for the 2942 02:18:54,710 --> 02:18:56,600 infrastructure datacenter this 2943 02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:57,908 developer is been different a 2944 02:18:57,908 --> 02:19:00,308 couple of times supervisor 2945 02:19:04,114 --> 02:19:05,115 gordy noted it requested time 2946 02:19:05,115 --> 02:19:05,949 to address community feedback. 2947 02:19:05,949 --> 02:19:08,949 He project is over dependably 2948 02:19:10,420 --> 02:19:11,121 while they work to address 2949 02:19:11,121 --> 02:19:11,989 concerns but we are not seeing 2950 02:19:11,989 --> 02:19:12,589 options that don't result in 2951 02:19:12,589 --> 02:19:14,589 the developers financial 2952 02:19:16,293 --> 02:19:17,294 interest in the loss of tree 2953 02:19:17,294 --> 02:19:18,162 canopy to the citizens of the 2954 02:19:18,162 --> 02:19:21,265 impact of the watershed is not 2955 02:19:21,265 --> 02:19:21,331 in the county interest 2956 02:19:21,331 --> 02:19:23,331 . 2957 02:19:25,469 --> 02:19:26,370 All possibilities should be 2958 02:19:26,370 --> 02:19:29,370 explored before we vacate the 2959 02:19:29,740 --> 02:19:32,740 conservation area pick I'm not 2960 02:19:34,778 --> 02:19:35,746 a post-it development. 2961 02:19:35,746 --> 02:19:36,280 Am opposed to using public 2962 02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:36,580 assets without adequate 2963 02:19:36,580 --> 02:19:38,580 mitigation. 2964 02:19:40,417 --> 02:19:41,318 Staff reports report that no 2965 02:19:41,318 --> 02:19:42,286 cost to be incurred beyond 2966 02:19:42,286 --> 02:19:44,321 staff time to execute the deed, 2967 02:19:44,321 --> 02:19:46,390 but lack accounting direct 2968 02:19:46,390 --> 02:19:47,891 expenditures does not mean a 2969 02:19:47,891 --> 02:19:48,592 lack of public cost. 2970 02:19:48,592 --> 02:19:51,895 Those two things are not the 2971 02:19:51,895 --> 02:19:52,896 same. 2972 02:19:52,896 --> 02:19:54,431 The cost there is significant. 2973 02:19:54,431 --> 02:19:58,310 The armor moving tree canopy on 2974 02:20:06,809 --> 02:20:07,478 public parkland. 2975 02:20:07,478 --> 02:20:09,478 Over 72% are impaired. 2976 02:20:10,747 --> 02:20:11,915 Of the 93 assessed waterways 68 2977 02:20:11,915 --> 02:20:14,184 of them fail state standards 2978 02:20:14,184 --> 02:20:14,885 . 2979 02:20:14,885 --> 02:20:17,285 Stream flows or monitoring 2980 02:20:18,655 --> 02:20:20,655 sites 2981 02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:22,659 , as if quantico was 31% 2982 02:20:22,659 --> 02:20:25,590 and salinity levels are 2983 02:20:26,964 --> 02:20:27,865 steadily rising and so every 2984 02:20:27,865 --> 02:20:30,100 tree we remove makes that 2985 02:20:30,100 --> 02:20:31,135 worse. 2986 02:20:31,135 --> 02:20:33,137 They trap pollutants and they 2987 02:20:33,137 --> 02:20:35,806 slow runoff for the first thing 2988 02:20:35,806 --> 02:20:38,675 I would ask is I would say 2989 02:20:38,675 --> 02:20:39,710 explore the alternative routing 2990 02:20:39,710 --> 02:20:42,110 that avoids negating it 2991 02:20:45,682 --> 02:20:46,550 entirely the proffer requires 2992 02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:47,417 them and remove avoidable 2993 02:20:47,417 --> 02:20:49,153 maximum but we have not 2994 02:20:49,153 --> 02:20:49,953 exhausted all the alternatives 2995 02:20:49,953 --> 02:20:50,821 pick I would ask the board 2996 02:20:50,821 --> 02:20:53,821 condition the approval on 2 to 2997 02:20:55,492 --> 02:20:56,193 3 times the tree canopy to 2998 02:20:56,193 --> 02:20:59,193 compensate for what is removed 2999 02:20:59,730 --> 02:21:00,464 if you decide to approve this 3000 02:21:00,464 --> 02:21:03,464 for 2 to 1 ratio is reasonable 3001 02:21:04,201 --> 02:21:07,801 but the us forestry service in 3002 02:21:10,707 --> 02:21:11,575 most urban arborists will savor 3003 02:21:11,575 --> 02:21:14,575 every 40 foot canopy tree you 3004 02:21:15,979 --> 02:21:18,379 need 260 92 inch caliber trees 3005 02:21:19,483 --> 02:21:23,830 to get the same effect pick 2 3006 02:21:23,821 --> 02:21:24,822 to 1 is reasonable at that 3007 02:21:24,822 --> 02:21:25,422 level because he will not get 3008 02:21:25,422 --> 02:21:27,958 the same effect but you would 3009 02:21:27,958 --> 02:21:30,958 make a good-faith effort sort 3010 02:21:33,300 --> 02:21:33,931 of becoming a bigger tree 3011 02:21:33,931 --> 02:21:35,931 replacement ratio it 3012 02:21:37,801 --> 02:21:38,702 acknowledges that picket think 3013 02:21:38,702 --> 02:21:39,770 it is important that we insist 3014 02:21:39,770 --> 02:21:42,170 much more firmly replacement 3015 02:21:45,742 --> 02:21:48,111 trees and not just the actual 3016 02:21:48,111 --> 02:21:50,111 physical count. 3017 02:21:53,116 --> 02:21:53,217 When damaging the watershed 3018 02:21:53,217 --> 02:21:54,184 . 3019 02:21:54,184 --> 02:21:57,955 I would urge the board to do a 3020 02:21:57,955 --> 02:21:58,856 deeper exploration viable 3021 02:21:58,856 --> 02:21:59,857 alternatives and if not 3022 02:21:59,857 --> 02:22:01,191 impossible the adoption of the 3023 02:22:01,191 --> 02:22:03,191 minimum of 2/1 replacement 3024 02:22:05,129 --> 02:22:05,863 ratio. 3025 02:22:05,863 --> 02:22:09,463 The county is not going hasn't 3026 02:22:10,601 --> 02:22:11,502 done in county but I would like 3027 02:22:11,502 --> 02:22:12,369 to remind the board that growth 3028 02:22:12,369 --> 02:22:14,538 for the sake of growth is the 3029 02:22:14,538 --> 02:22:15,380 ideology of the cancer cell 3030 02:22:15,380 --> 02:22:17,380 think you guys. 3031 02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:20,110 That was my a and b 3032 02:22:20,110 --> 02:22:20,711 . 3033 02:22:20,711 --> 02:22:24,882 If we can move to e, f and g 3034 02:22:24,882 --> 02:22:24,948 which is the pro-lodges 3035 02:22:24,948 --> 02:22:26,316 . 3036 02:22:26,316 --> 02:22:27,885 I'm trying my best to go fast 3037 02:22:27,885 --> 02:22:29,885 . 3038 02:22:32,256 --> 02:22:34,658 Understand the appeal pick we 3039 02:22:34,658 --> 02:22:38,562 had a lot of talk about the 3040 02:22:38,562 --> 02:22:39,563 density and so we had the 3041 02:22:39,563 --> 02:22:40,970 ground a lot of decisions in a 3042 02:22:40,970 --> 02:22:42,497 reality that exist pick 3043 02:22:44,735 --> 02:22:45,736 reclassifying 24 acres to 3044 02:22:45,736 --> 02:22:47,736 accommodate heavy logistics 3045 02:22:49,390 --> 02:22:52,242 facility is in my opinion a 3046 02:22:52,242 --> 02:22:53,177 profound planning mistake in of 3047 02:22:53,177 --> 02:22:55,577 violations of the county 3048 02:22:58,810 --> 02:22:58,916 environment plan which the 3049 02:22:58,916 --> 02:22:59,716 county staff explicitly 3050 02:22:59,716 --> 02:23:02,116 confirmed in their report. 3051 02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:06,487 Through the requests explicitly 3052 02:23:08,125 --> 02:23:08,959 and profoundly violate not one, 3053 02:23:08,959 --> 02:23:11,228 not two but eight of the 3054 02:23:11,228 --> 02:23:13,228 categories addressed 3055 02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:17,200 . 3056 02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:20,200 Undermine the hot policies of 3057 02:23:20,504 --> 02:23:21,472 forestry source as well as our 3058 02:23:21,472 --> 02:23:22,573 actions on tree preservation 3059 02:23:22,573 --> 02:23:22,873 stormwater management of stream 3060 02:23:22,873 --> 02:23:24,873 restoration 3061 02:23:39,423 --> 02:23:40,424 . 3062 02:23:40,424 --> 02:23:40,958 If this is approved the board 3063 02:23:40,958 --> 02:23:41,425 would be responsible for 3064 02:23:41,425 --> 02:23:42,826 greenlight incoming 3065 02:23:42,826 --> 02:23:44,940 irreversible ecological damage 3066 02:23:44,940 --> 02:23:47,940 to the bull run watershed. 3067 02:23:52,469 --> 02:23:52,803 The applicant plans on 100% 3068 02:23:52,803 --> 02:23:53,403 clearcutting. 3069 02:23:53,403 --> 02:23:55,803 Removing all four identified 3070 02:23:57,274 --> 02:23:58,142 specimen trees and destroying 3071 02:23:58,142 --> 02:23:59,900 the critical habitat for the 3072 02:23:59,900 --> 02:24:00,744 tricolored and northern long 3073 02:24:00,744 --> 02:24:01,411 eared bat pick one of which is 3074 02:24:01,411 --> 02:24:01,711 endangered and one is on the 3075 02:24:01,711 --> 02:24:03,711 list. 3076 02:24:03,881 --> 02:24:06,281 It will remove the 3077 02:24:06,884 --> 02:24:07,618 currently functional water 3078 02:24:07,618 --> 02:24:09,190 reclamation and filtration 3079 02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:12,190 resource pick there are no 3080 02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:13,257 replacement measures that come 3081 02:24:13,257 --> 02:24:15,257 close. 3082 02:24:17,594 --> 02:24:18,262 The project would eliminate 1.3 3083 02:24:18,262 --> 02:24:20,430 acres of mapped wetlands with 3084 02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:22,830 2200 linear feet from a 3085 02:24:31,542 --> 02:24:32,142 hydrological -- sonata 3086 02:24:32,142 --> 02:24:33,430 hydrologist but add water 3087 02:24:33,430 --> 02:24:34,110 wetlands and streams regulate 3088 02:24:34,110 --> 02:24:34,678 streamflow come in they trump 3089 02:24:34,678 --> 02:24:35,612 sediments and transform 3090 02:24:35,612 --> 02:24:36,547 nutrients such as nitrogen and 3091 02:24:36,547 --> 02:24:38,547 phosphorus replacing natural 3092 02:24:44,288 --> 02:24:45,880 buffers with 15.6., 16 acres 3093 02:24:45,880 --> 02:24:45,989 and shift the entire essay from 3094 02:24:45,989 --> 02:24:46,790 a high of the ideological 3095 02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:49,190 sponge into an accelerated 3096 02:24:50,930 --> 02:24:50,828 runoff generator. 3097 02:24:50,828 --> 02:24:51,595 Pavement doesn't absorb water 3098 02:24:51,595 --> 02:24:52,296 and it doesn't absorb 3099 02:24:52,296 --> 02:24:55,296 pollutants which you will get 3100 02:24:56,433 --> 02:24:57,334 from logistics think we are 3101 02:24:57,334 --> 02:25:00,471 going to lose 24 acres and we 3102 02:25:00,471 --> 02:25:03,471 would replace it with 15 acres 3103 02:25:06,610 --> 02:25:07,644 of asphalt and roofing. 3104 02:25:07,644 --> 02:25:08,612 This contradicts our energy and 3105 02:25:08,612 --> 02:25:09,146 sustainability master plan. 3106 02:25:09,146 --> 02:25:11,146 Stormwater chambers can't 3107 02:25:14,451 --> 02:25:15,452 replicate think they can't 3108 02:25:15,452 --> 02:25:16,453 replicate sequestration and 3109 02:25:16,453 --> 02:25:17,387 they do not provide groundwater 3110 02:25:17,387 --> 02:25:19,787 recharge provided by the 3111 02:25:23,594 --> 02:25:23,927 current natural forested 3112 02:25:23,927 --> 02:25:24,628 wetlands. 3113 02:25:24,628 --> 02:25:25,529 They can clean the water which 3114 02:25:25,529 --> 02:25:26,530 leads to an increase in water 3115 02:25:26,530 --> 02:25:27,798 treatment cost that they can't 3116 02:25:27,798 --> 02:25:29,798 replenish existing ecological 3117 02:25:32,302 --> 02:25:33,300 systems for vacant clean the 3118 02:25:33,300 --> 02:25:35,403 particulates the site would 3119 02:25:36,940 --> 02:25:37,941 generate and so the citizens 3120 02:25:37,941 --> 02:25:41,541 are going to suffer a market 3121 02:25:42,179 --> 02:25:43,180 degradation in air quality. 3122 02:25:43,180 --> 02:25:45,749 Also we are going to shift the 3123 02:25:45,749 --> 02:25:46,517 long-term environment accosts 3124 02:25:46,517 --> 02:25:47,384 from a private developer done 3125 02:25:47,384 --> 02:25:50,384 at the prince william county 3126 02:25:53,923 --> 02:25:54,558 taxpayers the property contains 3127 02:25:54,558 --> 02:25:56,958 soils classify was severe 3128 02:25:57,161 --> 02:25:57,728 irritability stripping soils 3129 02:25:57,728 --> 02:26:00,128 heightens the risk of 3130 02:26:00,297 --> 02:26:01,331 downstream sediment patient 3131 02:26:01,331 --> 02:26:03,100 which threatens the occoquan 3132 02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:05,500 reservoir we taxpayers will 3133 02:26:07,400 --> 02:26:08,380 absorb flood mitigation which 3134 02:26:08,380 --> 02:26:11,638 the developer is going to offer 3135 02:26:12,609 --> 02:26:13,110 you 1700 bucks in water 3136 02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:15,110 quality. 3137 02:26:17,514 --> 02:26:17,581 I don't know if you know this 3138 02:26:17,581 --> 02:26:18,549 , 3139 02:26:18,549 --> 02:26:20,949 but the operational current 3140 02:26:23,120 --> 02:26:26,120 cost runs $10-$35,000 a linear 3141 02:26:30,327 --> 02:26:31,610 foot and so I am not sure where 3142 02:26:31,610 --> 02:26:34,661 except that's what it will cost 3143 02:26:35,399 --> 02:26:36,433 for them to print the invoice. 3144 02:26:36,433 --> 02:26:38,833 Again, prince william county 3145 02:26:42,806 --> 02:26:43,774 router rights are impaired on 3146 02:26:43,774 --> 02:26:46,774 the salinity levels on the 3147 02:26:47,945 --> 02:26:48,679 reservoir is steadily rising. 3148 02:26:48,679 --> 02:26:52,279 Every single tree we take out 3149 02:26:53,984 --> 02:26:54,985 just makes this worse. 3150 02:26:54,985 --> 02:26:55,953 if you get away from the 3151 02:26:55,953 --> 02:26:58,953 environment you will go and 3152 02:27:02,259 --> 02:27:03,260 introduce heavy freight traffic 3153 02:27:03,260 --> 02:27:03,894 right next to the two schools 3154 02:27:03,894 --> 02:27:04,461 over there and so you're going 3155 02:27:04,461 --> 02:27:05,362 to put safety hazards and 3156 02:27:05,362 --> 02:27:07,762 diesel admissions under great 3157 02:27:07,865 --> 02:27:08,866 air quality wiki would create 3158 02:27:08,866 --> 02:27:11,266 traffic hazards between every 3159 02:27:20,544 --> 02:27:21,512 freight haulers in school bus 3160 02:27:21,512 --> 02:27:21,879 routing because that is not 3161 02:27:21,879 --> 02:27:22,513 rated for that. 3162 02:27:22,513 --> 02:27:23,213 New morning arrival and 3163 02:27:23,213 --> 02:27:24,515 afternoon dismissal periods you 3164 02:27:24,515 --> 02:27:25,516 will sanction clearcutting the 3165 02:27:25,516 --> 02:27:26,830 trees that would clean all of 3166 02:27:26,830 --> 02:27:26,750 that so the kids would be 3167 02:27:26,750 --> 02:27:27,718 breathing it on fire station 3168 02:27:27,718 --> 02:27:30,718 for this there in gainesville 3169 02:27:31,688 --> 02:27:31,788 at max capacity 3170 02:27:31,788 --> 02:27:32,489 . 3171 02:27:32,489 --> 02:27:33,422 I don't know if you know this 3172 02:27:33,422 --> 02:27:35,822 but heavy truck incidents 3173 02:27:36,930 --> 02:27:36,727 require specialized skills and 3174 02:27:36,727 --> 02:27:39,960 first responders and it takes a 3175 02:27:39,960 --> 02:27:42,696 little bit longer to train them 3176 02:27:44,301 --> 02:27:45,350 in some proffers are not even 3177 02:27:45,350 --> 02:27:48,635 touching the true cost of what 3178 02:27:50,541 --> 02:27:51,375 that looks like a. That's going 3179 02:27:51,375 --> 02:27:54,975 to be shifted entirely to the 3180 02:27:55,345 --> 02:27:56,280 taxpayers and citizens pick we 3181 02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:57,247 don't have to choose between a 3182 02:27:57,247 --> 02:27:59,650 vacant lot and heavy industrial 3183 02:27:59,650 --> 02:28:00,784 destruction. 3184 02:28:00,784 --> 02:28:01,652 Under the designations of land 3185 02:28:01,652 --> 02:28:05,155 is intended to serve as a 3186 02:28:05,155 --> 02:28:06,230 transition between iron density 3187 02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:08,230 uses and environmental 3188 02:28:08,625 --> 02:28:10,930 resources. 3189 02:28:10,930 --> 02:28:12,493 Have lower impact alternatives 3190 02:28:16,366 --> 02:28:17,234 that do not require rezoning 3191 02:28:17,234 --> 02:28:18,100 this pic I'm not in favor of 3192 02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:19,102 clearcutting at all, but there 3193 02:28:19,102 --> 02:28:21,605 are other alternatives let it 3194 02:28:21,605 --> 02:28:23,605 integrate that aquatic 3195 02:28:25,642 --> 02:28:26,276 resources and open space that 3196 02:28:26,276 --> 02:28:29,876 would be far better for the 3197 02:28:30,948 --> 02:28:31,682 county residents here. 3198 02:28:31,682 --> 02:28:32,549 What I would ask the board to 3199 02:28:32,549 --> 02:28:35,549 do in these particular items 3200 02:28:36,119 --> 02:28:36,787 it's offered the incentives 3201 02:28:36,787 --> 02:28:38,787 directing heavy logistics 3202 02:28:38,856 --> 02:28:39,556 facility to pre-existing 3203 02:28:39,556 --> 02:28:41,556 degraded invest industrial 3204 02:28:43,694 --> 02:28:46,940 sites would encourage the 3205 02:28:50,534 --> 02:28:51,101 development which we could use 3206 02:28:51,101 --> 02:28:53,101 without stripping the 3207 02:28:55,539 --> 02:28:55,939 environmental resources that we 3208 02:28:55,939 --> 02:28:56,707 need to. 3209 02:28:56,707 --> 02:29:00,307 We need to build the climate 3210 02:29:01,845 --> 02:29:02,346 resilience. 3211 02:29:02,346 --> 02:29:03,113 If you want to be 3212 02:29:03,113 --> 02:29:05,113 environmentally terrified look 3213 02:29:07,500 --> 02:29:07,784 up the effects of a super ni?O 3214 02:29:07,784 --> 02:29:08,685 pic but I do urge you to uphold 3215 02:29:08,685 --> 02:29:10,988 the integrity of prince william 3216 02:29:10,988 --> 02:29:11,755 county and deny these requests 3217 02:29:11,755 --> 02:29:13,755 or offer significant 3218 02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:15,159 alternatives 3219 02:29:15,159 --> 02:29:16,126 . 3220 02:29:16,126 --> 02:29:19,296 Thank you for your time on that 3221 02:29:19,296 --> 02:29:19,429 one 3222 02:29:19,429 --> 02:29:20,397 . 3223 02:29:20,397 --> 02:29:22,650 Could you set the timer to six 3224 02:29:22,650 --> 02:29:26,265 and I will do the last one. 3225 02:29:35,412 --> 02:29:39,120 Rather than stop in the middle. 3226 02:29:41,318 --> 02:29:42,219 My name is melody miller picked 3227 02:29:42,219 --> 02:29:42,920 this one is about 8j and k 3228 02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:44,788 which is the rezoning 3229 02:29:44,788 --> 02:29:46,788 . 3230 02:29:47,958 --> 02:29:51,558 This is the data center campus 3231 02:29:51,995 --> 02:29:53,300 . 3232 02:29:53,300 --> 02:29:53,997 When you are reading this you 3233 02:29:53,997 --> 02:29:54,898 know I speak against data 3234 02:29:54,898 --> 02:29:57,298 centers this represents a 3235 02:29:57,433 --> 02:29:59,833 critical failure and it 3236 02:30:01,710 --> 02:30:01,972 violates the spirit and the 3237 02:30:01,972 --> 02:30:03,140 letter of our energy and 3238 02:30:03,140 --> 02:30:04,942 sustainability master plan. 3239 02:30:04,942 --> 02:30:08,479 We are being asked to sacrifice 3240 02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:11,479 stability for short-term pic I 3241 02:30:11,647 --> 02:30:14,518 want to focus on the two major 3242 02:30:14,518 --> 02:30:17,488 areas for the project fills our 3243 02:30:17,488 --> 02:30:18,188 community pick the first is the 3244 02:30:18,188 --> 02:30:20,824 burden and the second is the 3245 02:30:20,824 --> 02:30:22,824 irreversible destruction this 3246 02:30:24,461 --> 02:30:26,461 will engender. 3247 02:30:29,433 --> 02:30:31,433 200 mw facility demands 1.7 5 3248 02:30:33,303 --> 02:30:33,370 million mwh annually 3249 02:30:33,370 --> 02:30:34,371 . 3250 02:30:34,371 --> 02:30:36,607 original grid operator has 3251 02:30:36,607 --> 02:30:39,700 already issued warnings about 3252 02:30:43,514 --> 02:30:44,214 capacity shortage in strain and 3253 02:30:44,214 --> 02:30:45,149 the regulatory commission is 3254 02:30:45,149 --> 02:30:48,749 owed them to overhaul its rules 3255 02:30:49,419 --> 02:30:50,870 of massive large load customers 3256 02:30:50,870 --> 02:30:50,920 must secure their own power 3257 02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:51,655 supply or fund dedicated 3258 02:30:51,655 --> 02:30:52,489 generation before connecting to 3259 02:30:52,489 --> 02:30:52,589 the grid 3260 02:30:52,589 --> 02:30:54,589 . 3261 02:30:55,359 --> 02:30:56,360 Those rules have not changed 3262 02:30:56,360 --> 02:30:57,828 yet and would not apply to this 3263 02:30:57,828 --> 02:30:59,828 development. 3264 02:31:03,500 --> 02:31:04,134 Those guys and this person is 3265 02:31:04,134 --> 02:31:07,134 proposing to add a massive 3266 02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:10,730 unrelenting to the systems and 3267 02:31:10,730 --> 02:31:12,473 so this also contradicts 3268 02:31:15,712 --> 02:31:16,446 strategy one which sets a 3269 02:31:16,446 --> 02:31:17,414 transition to 92% clean energy 3270 02:31:17,414 --> 02:31:17,781 and 50% reduction in greenhouse 3271 02:31:17,781 --> 02:31:19,781 gases by 23. 3272 02:31:22,386 --> 02:31:23,720 You cannot approve facility of 3273 02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:24,321 the scale powered by fossil 3274 02:31:24,321 --> 02:31:24,888 fuel relying grid energy and 3275 02:31:24,888 --> 02:31:27,288 diesel generators and still 3276 02:31:29,359 --> 02:31:30,600 claim you are working toward 3277 02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:31,280 our stated climate goals pic 3278 02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:33,428 and neutralizes the county 3279 02:31:37,568 --> 02:31:38,335 mitigation efforts the massive 3280 02:31:38,335 --> 02:31:39,636 transmission upgrades: cost. 3281 02:31:39,636 --> 02:31:42,636 As I stated earlier, the 3282 02:31:45,809 --> 02:31:46,443 citizens should not be forced 3283 02:31:46,443 --> 02:31:47,311 to fund this when it is a 3284 02:31:47,311 --> 02:31:47,878 private developer and the 3285 02:31:47,878 --> 02:31:48,412 prophets are there. 3286 02:31:48,412 --> 02:31:50,412 In the 3287 02:31:52,382 --> 02:31:53,383 immortal words of billy MAY 3288 02:31:53,383 --> 02:31:56,119 speak equally devastating to us 3289 02:31:56,119 --> 02:31:57,287 is the destruction of our local 3290 02:31:57,287 --> 02:31:59,287 environment. 3291 02:32:00,757 --> 02:32:01,910 Talked about watershed and air 3292 02:32:01,910 --> 02:32:03,910 quality a lot. 3293 02:32:03,660 --> 02:32:04,628 The applicant's request the 3294 02:32:04,628 --> 02:32:06,628 mandatory 50 foot environmental 3295 02:32:09,399 --> 02:32:10,300 buffers to a mere 10 feet pick 3296 02:32:10,300 --> 02:32:11,602 the biggest offer was 30 feet 3297 02:32:11,602 --> 02:32:11,802 is absolutely unacceptable 3298 02:32:11,802 --> 02:32:13,802 able. 3299 02:32:14,972 --> 02:32:15,380 It destroys tree canopy 3300 02:32:15,380 --> 02:32:17,380 . 3301 02:32:17,174 --> 02:32:19,574 Asphalt doesn't absorb water 3302 02:32:21,645 --> 02:32:22,246 . 3303 02:32:22,246 --> 02:32:24,246 Replacing forests with 3304 02:32:24,948 --> 02:32:27,348 impervious concrete surface is 3305 02:32:32,689 --> 02:32:33,724 going to guarantee degradation. 3306 02:32:33,724 --> 02:32:35,724 It $75 per acre 3307 02:32:39,630 --> 02:32:40,597 . 3308 02:32:40,597 --> 02:32:41,632 Real life, we are talking 10 to 3309 02:32:41,632 --> 02:32:43,333 25,000 is the area's cost per 3310 02:32:43,333 --> 02:32:45,333 linear foot 3311 02:32:48,639 --> 02:32:49,339 . 3312 02:32:49,339 --> 02:32:52,339 The total profit of $3700 total 3313 02:32:55,345 --> 02:32:56,460 cost to be 1.5 to $2 million. 3314 02:32:56,460 --> 02:32:58,848 We are not going to be able to 3315 02:32:58,848 --> 02:32:59,783 get them to cover the pollution 3316 02:32:59,783 --> 02:33:02,183 and degradation to local 3317 02:33:03,921 --> 02:33:04,555 streams and their own plans 3318 02:33:04,555 --> 02:33:06,955 flooding and water should 3319 02:33:07,858 --> 02:33:08,859 compromise with the biggest 3320 02:33:08,859 --> 02:33:11,859 threat to prince william county 3321 02:33:12,162 --> 02:33:13,163 environment. 3322 02:33:13,163 --> 02:33:17,363 We will not be able to handle 3323 02:33:19,403 --> 02:33:20,471 that with 3500 bucks. 3324 02:33:20,471 --> 02:33:21,710 In addition this would bring a 3325 02:33:21,710 --> 02:33:21,305 severe threat to the air 3326 02:33:21,305 --> 02:33:23,305 quality. 3327 02:33:26,944 --> 02:33:27,211 A campus of the size 3328 02:33:27,211 --> 02:33:28,245 , everybody 3329 02:33:28,245 --> 02:33:29,145 is well-educated it requires 3330 02:33:29,145 --> 02:33:31,148 dozens of massive diesel backup 3331 02:33:31,148 --> 02:33:32,149 generators. 3332 02:33:32,149 --> 02:33:32,816 The biweekly testing and 3333 02:33:32,816 --> 02:33:34,160 emergency operation of the 3334 02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:36,653 generators is going to pump 3335 02:33:36,653 --> 02:33:38,422 particulate matter, green 3336 02:33:38,422 --> 02:33:39,923 gases, greenhouse gases into 3337 02:33:39,923 --> 02:33:41,923 the communities there. 3338 02:33:44,962 --> 02:33:45,662 Residents living nearby, 3339 02:33:45,662 --> 02:33:46,697 correct me if I'm totally off 3340 02:33:46,697 --> 02:33:48,132 on that one. 3341 02:33:48,132 --> 02:33:50,532 They would be subjected 3342 02:33:51,135 --> 02:33:52,169 . 3343 02:33:52,169 --> 02:33:55,169 They have been subjected to 3344 02:33:58,308 --> 02:33:58,408 localized low-frequency noise 3345 02:33:58,408 --> 02:33:59,376 . 3346 02:33:59,376 --> 02:34:01,512 I think it is somewhere between 3347 02:34:01,512 --> 02:34:01,712 65 and 85 db on a continual 3348 02:34:01,712 --> 02:34:01,812 basis 3349 02:34:01,812 --> 02:34:02,779 . 3350 02:34:02,779 --> 02:34:06,379 there has been plenty of solid 3351 02:34:06,383 --> 02:34:06,884 research coming out the noise 3352 02:34:06,884 --> 02:34:08,884 levels produce because 3353 02:34:12,356 --> 02:34:13,357 residents damage. 3354 02:34:13,357 --> 02:34:14,570 There needs to be a stronger 3355 02:34:14,570 --> 02:34:16,570 consideration of resident 3356 02:34:21,431 --> 02:34:22,990 impact and it needs to be 3357 02:34:22,990 --> 02:34:23,330 guarantee nearby residents 3358 02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:23,400 would have medications if this 3359 02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:25,400 is approved. 3360 02:34:28,772 --> 02:34:29,773 In conclusion on this one, 3361 02:34:29,773 --> 02:34:30,541 inadequate sustainability and 3362 02:34:30,541 --> 02:34:31,800 demands maximum 3363 02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:33,800 concessions:community. 3364 02:34:36,313 --> 02:34:37,470 It squanders designated land on 3365 02:34:37,470 --> 02:34:38,315 low implement facility that 3366 02:34:38,315 --> 02:34:38,949 destroys our buffers and 3367 02:34:38,949 --> 02:34:39,883 pollutes air and water. 3368 02:34:39,883 --> 02:34:43,253 I don't think it's worth it and 3369 02:34:43,253 --> 02:34:44,588 I rejected reject these items 3370 02:34:44,588 --> 02:34:45,923 and deny the rezoning 3371 02:34:45,923 --> 02:34:47,923 . 3372 02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:54,360 That is the end and the last 3373 02:35:06,877 --> 02:35:07,744 one is l. 3374 02:35:07,744 --> 02:35:08,412 >> Chair Deshundra: we reset 3375 02:35:08,412 --> 02:35:09,146 your time. 3376 02:35:09,146 --> 02:35:09,746 >> I used 10 minutes and then 3377 02:35:09,746 --> 02:35:10,914 six minutes so I still have 3378 02:35:10,914 --> 02:35:11,515 three minutes pic I wanted to 3379 02:35:11,515 --> 02:35:11,915 put the time together for the 3380 02:35:11,915 --> 02:35:13,160 group to one's. 3381 02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:13,784 >> Chair Deshundra: next time 3382 02:35:13,784 --> 02:35:14,651 we will not clear. 3383 02:35:14,651 --> 02:35:14,885 We will give you the last three 3384 02:35:14,885 --> 02:35:16,885 minutes 3385 02:35:17,588 --> 02:35:18,589 . 3386 02:35:18,589 --> 02:35:21,589 >> I wanted to separate them. 3387 02:35:25,629 --> 02:35:26,130 >> Chair Deshundra: let's go. 3388 02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:26,563 >> melody miller. 3389 02:35:26,563 --> 02:35:28,563 Gain, I 3390 02:35:30,567 --> 02:35:32,567 appreciate your forbearance 3391 02:35:32,936 --> 02:35:34,936 . 3392 02:35:36,507 --> 02:35:36,573 The data in the staff reports 3393 02:35:36,573 --> 02:35:38,573 , 3394 02:35:40,144 --> 02:35:42,779 there are really big flaws 3395 02:35:42,779 --> 02:35:43,813 . 3396 02:35:43,813 --> 02:35:46,213 They get the environmental 3397 02:35:47,885 --> 02:35:51,889 impact of a giant red f. To 3398 02:35:51,889 --> 02:35:52,890 squeeze 24 high density 3399 02:35:52,890 --> 02:35:55,290 townhomes this project will 3400 02:35:57,628 --> 02:35:58,662 destroy existing forced wetland 3401 02:35:58,662 --> 02:36:01,620 this violates the environmental 3402 02:36:02,466 --> 02:36:03,433 policy the 2400 conference and 3403 02:36:03,433 --> 02:36:05,833 plan which mandates preserving 3404 02:36:07,638 --> 02:36:10,380 natural wetlands over off-site 3405 02:36:13,911 --> 02:36:14,912 developer mitigation. 3406 02:36:14,912 --> 02:36:15,913 What I want to focus on is the 3407 02:36:15,913 --> 02:36:16,580 true cost all heavily on the 3408 02:36:16,580 --> 02:36:17,181 residence across multiple 3409 02:36:17,181 --> 02:36:19,181 areas. 3410 02:36:21,819 --> 02:36:22,386 . 3411 02:36:22,386 --> 02:36:24,786 For financial cost the 3412 02:36:26,590 --> 02:36:28,990 developer is offering $450 for 3413 02:36:30,294 --> 02:36:32,294 water quality mitigation. 3414 02:36:35,999 --> 02:36:37,670 Real-world municipal cost run 3415 02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:40,670 tens of thousands of dollars 3416 02:36:40,404 --> 02:36:41,405 per linear foot. 3417 02:36:41,405 --> 02:36:42,172 This leaves taxpayers to fund 3418 02:36:42,172 --> 02:36:42,940 the downstream restoration of 3419 02:36:42,940 --> 02:36:44,940 the structure repairs 3420 02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:51,680 . 3421 02:36:52,115 --> 02:36:54,515 This unsupported with the 3422 02:36:58,489 --> 02:36:59,223 contribution to public safety. 3423 02:36:59,223 --> 02:37:00,190 When fire truck is $150,000 and 3424 02:37:00,190 --> 02:37:01,225 can be well over $1 million so 3425 02:37:01,225 --> 02:37:04,227 if that number doesn't have a 3426 02:37:04,227 --> 02:37:06,730 couple of numbers on it, it's 3427 02:37:06,730 --> 02:37:07,631 probably inadequate for the 3428 02:37:07,631 --> 02:37:10,310 environment or cost is 3429 02:37:12,769 --> 02:37:13,437 devastating. 3430 02:37:13,437 --> 02:37:14,371 We are going to guarantee 3431 02:37:14,371 --> 02:37:15,806 thermal pollution, we are going 3432 02:37:15,806 --> 02:37:17,806 to guarantee increased 3433 02:37:28,519 --> 02:37:28,752 stormwater runoff 3434 02:37:28,752 --> 02:37:29,753 . 3435 02:37:29,753 --> 02:37:30,870 We are going to guarantee heat 3436 02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:30,854 island effect. 3437 02:37:30,854 --> 02:37:31,722 He will destroy a natural 3438 02:37:31,722 --> 02:37:32,389 carbon sink, which further 3439 02:37:32,389 --> 02:37:34,389 degrades county shingles. 3440 02:37:37,394 --> 02:37:37,561 2030, 2030 build a heat island 3441 02:37:37,561 --> 02:37:38,595 . 3442 02:37:38,595 --> 02:37:39,530 Academy 53 seconds to expend on 3443 02:37:39,530 --> 02:37:40,564 the wetlands, but this proposal 3444 02:37:40,564 --> 02:37:42,964 violates multiple core policies 3445 02:37:45,569 --> 02:37:46,690 about the environment and the 3446 02:37:46,690 --> 02:37:46,970 24 discount plan. 3447 02:37:46,970 --> 02:37:49,970 Muslim going to close with 3448 02:37:53,644 --> 02:37:53,777 opportunity and social costs 3449 02:37:53,777 --> 02:37:54,778 . 3450 02:37:54,778 --> 02:37:55,478 the county will forfeit build 3451 02:37:55,478 --> 02:37:56,280 people ecologically intact land 3452 02:37:56,280 --> 02:37:56,980 that imposes significant 3453 02:37:56,980 --> 02:37:59,349 benefit to our county air 3454 02:37:59,349 --> 02:38:00,250 quality watershed research were 3455 02:38:00,250 --> 02:38:00,884 being offered 45 foot tall 3456 02:38:00,884 --> 02:38:02,853 townhome clusters packed 3457 02:38:02,853 --> 02:38:05,155 tightly with leaved environment 3458 02:38:05,155 --> 02:38:05,856 buffer protections. 3459 02:38:05,856 --> 02:38:08,856 They're going to degrade the 3460 02:38:10,794 --> 02:38:11,628 quality of life for adjacent 3461 02:38:11,628 --> 02:38:12,229 residents into irreversible 3462 02:38:12,229 --> 02:38:13,960 permanent damage to the two 3463 02:38:13,960 --> 02:38:13,330 things we were required to 3464 02:38:13,330 --> 02:38:13,397 exist 3465 02:38:13,397 --> 02:38:15,397 . 3466 02:38:21,572 --> 02:38:22,206 Air and water. 3467 02:38:22,206 --> 02:38:23,140 Please get creative on space 3468 02:38:23,140 --> 02:38:24,740 use, uphold the 20 foot in 3469 02:38:24,740 --> 02:38:24,808 principal income and protect 3470 02:38:24,808 --> 02:38:25,742 taxpayers from externalized 3471 02:38:25,742 --> 02:38:28,245 costs and vote number thank you 3472 02:38:28,245 --> 02:38:29,346 so much. 3473 02:38:29,346 --> 02:38:30,247 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 3474 02:38:30,247 --> 02:38:31,248 I believe we have another 3475 02:38:31,248 --> 02:38:33,750 speaker who signed up in person 3476 02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:34,318 becoming, signed up remote and 3477 02:38:34,318 --> 02:38:36,318 wants to comment. 3478 02:38:37,287 --> 02:38:40,887 You have three minutes for each 3479 02:38:44,795 --> 02:38:44,995 topic of the public hearings 3480 02:38:44,995 --> 02:38:45,696 . 3481 02:38:45,696 --> 02:38:46,630 If you look up at the timer 3482 02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:47,463 state your name and generally 3483 02:38:47,463 --> 02:38:51,630 where you reside at the w 3484 02:38:51,435 --> 02:38:52,136 remarks and that you MAY begin. 3485 02:38:52,136 --> 02:38:52,936 >> I'm kathleen and I am a 3486 02:38:52,936 --> 02:38:55,336 resident of the gainesville 3487 02:38:57,407 --> 02:38:58,408 magisterial district. 3488 02:38:58,408 --> 02:38:59,420 Like most citizens I'm 3489 02:38:59,420 --> 02:39:02,420 concerned about what happens in 3490 02:39:02,379 --> 02:39:03,460 my county. 3491 02:39:03,460 --> 02:39:03,881 But I'm also extremely 3492 02:39:03,881 --> 02:39:04,915 concerned about our country 3493 02:39:04,915 --> 02:39:07,915 being competitive in the global 3494 02:39:08,619 --> 02:39:09,253 ai race in the coming years ai 3495 02:39:09,253 --> 02:39:12,853 will solve many of the most 3496 02:39:13,357 --> 02:39:13,891 serious health 3497 02:39:13,891 --> 02:39:15,891 , environmental, 3498 02:39:17,461 --> 02:39:18,395 farming, food shortages, other 3499 02:39:18,395 --> 02:39:20,364 challenges and outright 3500 02:39:20,364 --> 02:39:20,998 problems that face our country. 3501 02:39:20,998 --> 02:39:22,666 It would develop the new 3502 02:39:22,666 --> 02:39:24,340 medicines and curious for the 3503 02:39:24,340 --> 02:39:27,340 terrible diseases we lost loved 3504 02:39:28,939 --> 02:39:29,940 ones to me while I do not 3505 02:39:29,940 --> 02:39:31,175 support alden dissenters, 3506 02:39:31,175 --> 02:39:32,176 especially those that don't 3507 02:39:32,176 --> 02:39:35,176 shea borges national parks and 3508 02:39:37,347 --> 02:39:37,447 homes 3509 02:39:37,447 --> 02:39:38,582 . 3510 02:39:38,582 --> 02:39:39,516 I strongly believe data centers 3511 02:39:39,516 --> 02:39:41,585 are necessary and play in 3512 02:39:41,585 --> 02:39:42,386 important role in ensuring 3513 02:39:42,386 --> 02:39:44,386 these technical logical 3514 02:39:50,561 --> 02:39:51,595 advances are achieved. 3515 02:39:51,595 --> 02:39:52,563 Further, if the manassas tech 3516 02:39:52,563 --> 02:39:53,597 center is approved it would 3517 02:39:53,597 --> 02:39:54,331 create hundreds of high-paying 3518 02:39:54,331 --> 02:39:57,331 construction jobs for two or 3519 02:39:57,367 --> 02:39:57,534 three years 3520 02:39:57,534 --> 02:39:58,534 . 3521 02:39:58,534 --> 02:39:59,503 That the significant work for 3522 02:39:59,503 --> 02:40:00,170 people who decide learning a 3523 02:40:00,170 --> 02:40:03,770 trade is the right path for 3524 02:40:03,807 --> 02:40:04,741 them rather than going to 3525 02:40:04,741 --> 02:40:07,741 college and being saddled with 3526 02:40:08,110 --> 02:40:08,645 tens of thousands, if not 3527 02:40:08,645 --> 02:40:10,645 100,000+ dollars of student 3528 02:40:14,418 --> 02:40:15,385 loans to get a college degree. 3529 02:40:15,385 --> 02:40:16,386 Those whom the data center 3530 02:40:16,386 --> 02:40:18,786 employees directly are blessed 3531 02:40:18,822 --> 02:40:19,756 with good stable jobs to 3532 02:40:19,756 --> 02:40:23,356 contribute to our tax base in 3533 02:40:25,729 --> 02:40:25,829 prince william county 3534 02:40:25,829 --> 02:40:26,797 . 3535 02:40:26,797 --> 02:40:27,531 I believe in the electrician 3536 02:40:27,531 --> 02:40:29,133 can earn a salary of 100,000 or 3537 02:40:29,133 --> 02:40:30,200 more 3538 02:40:30,200 --> 02:40:33,200 , well above the average in 3539 02:40:33,337 --> 02:40:35,337 the county. 3540 02:40:35,571 --> 02:40:37,741 This project aligns with the 3541 02:40:37,741 --> 02:40:40,141 county governance and plan. 3542 02:40:41,110 --> 02:40:41,945 It's recommended for approval 3543 02:40:41,945 --> 02:40:45,545 by the staff in its recently 3544 02:40:48,519 --> 02:40:49,419 received a positive vote from 3545 02:40:49,419 --> 02:40:49,720 the clint pant planning 3546 02:40:49,720 --> 02:40:49,887 commission. 3547 02:40:49,887 --> 02:40:50,621 As 3548 02:40:50,621 --> 02:40:51,880 such, I encourage you to vote 3549 02:40:51,880 --> 02:40:53,880 for approval. 3550 02:40:54,658 --> 02:40:55,626 thank you. 3551 02:40:55,626 --> 02:40:57,561 >> Chair Deshundra: to we do 3552 02:40:57,561 --> 02:40:57,628 not have anyone else in person 3553 02:40:57,628 --> 02:40:58,495 . 3554 02:40:58,495 --> 02:41:02,950 I will turn it to you 3555 02:41:04,735 --> 02:41:06,735 supervisor angry. 3556 02:41:21,485 --> 02:41:22,486 >> our speaker is craig. 3557 02:41:22,486 --> 02:41:23,120 >> I want to touch on how 3558 02:41:23,120 --> 02:41:24,688 important the data center 3559 02:41:24,688 --> 02:41:27,688 industry is to the principal 3560 02:41:29,920 --> 02:41:30,600 and county regional economy to 3561 02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:32,600 provide the infrastructure 3562 02:41:33,564 --> 02:41:36,564 needed for the digital services 3563 02:41:37,901 --> 02:41:40,901 residents and residents rely on 3564 02:41:47,945 --> 02:41:48,946 every day. 3565 02:41:48,946 --> 02:41:51,346 Response to community concerns 3566 02:41:52,649 --> 02:41:55,649 and designed to reduce impacts 3567 02:42:16,373 --> 02:42:17,207 on nearby properties. 3568 02:42:17,207 --> 02:42:18,375 Needs to be a significant part 3569 02:42:18,375 --> 02:42:19,109 of our future and projects like 3570 02:42:19,109 --> 02:42:20,878 the manassas tech center show 3571 02:42:20,878 --> 02:42:21,879 that I can happen in a way that 3572 02:42:21,879 --> 02:42:22,146 balances economic benefits with 3573 02:42:22,146 --> 02:42:24,146 community 3574 02:42:26,984 --> 02:42:27,718 priorities. 3575 02:42:27,718 --> 02:42:28,652 I support rezoning application. 3576 02:42:28,652 --> 02:42:32,852 Thank you all for your time in 3577 02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:37,161 the service to our community. 3578 02:42:37,161 --> 02:42:37,594 Spoke to be of any other 3579 02:42:37,594 --> 02:42:39,594 speakers? 3580 02:42:44,301 --> 02:42:45,302 Spoke we do not. 3581 02:42:45,302 --> 02:42:45,636 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 3582 02:42:45,636 --> 02:42:46,203 everyone. 3583 02:42:46,203 --> 02:42:47,137 Will go ahead and 3584 02:42:47,137 --> 02:42:50,137 close the public hearings for 3585 02:42:54,440 --> 02:42:54,845 eight a through for eight ms a 3586 02:42:54,845 --> 02:42:55,412 mary berg I did not do the 3587 02:42:55,412 --> 02:42:56,246 public hearing because 3588 02:42:56,246 --> 02:42:56,947 supervisor billy wanted to 3589 02:42:56,947 --> 02:42:59,917 defer that item but before we 3590 02:42:59,917 --> 02:42:59,983 go on to everything else 3591 02:42:59,983 --> 02:43:01,983 . 3592 02:43:06,990 --> 02:43:07,724 I'm sorry. 3593 02:43:07,724 --> 02:43:10,724 >> Andrea Bailey: I just want 3594 02:43:10,894 --> 02:43:11,280 to give comments 3595 02:43:11,280 --> 02:43:12,950 . 3596 02:43:12,950 --> 02:43:12,996 >> Chair Deshundra: I will open 3597 02:43:12,996 --> 02:43:15,996 the public hearing for that 3598 02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:19,690 item. 3599 02:43:19,690 --> 02:43:19,503 This book I would like to open 3600 02:43:19,503 --> 02:43:19,970 the public hearing. 3601 02:43:19,970 --> 02:43:20,204 Is there anyone who 3602 02:43:20,204 --> 02:43:22,204 wants to 3603 02:43:30,814 --> 02:43:31,448 speak? 3604 02:43:31,448 --> 02:43:31,949 Open the public hearing. 3605 02:43:31,949 --> 02:43:32,783 Is there anyone? 3606 02:43:32,783 --> 02:43:32,950 We will close the public 3607 02:43:32,950 --> 02:43:34,950 hearing 3608 02:43:38,522 --> 02:43:39,556 . 3609 02:43:39,556 --> 02:43:43,156 They should be contained in the 3610 02:43:50,767 --> 02:43:51,768 motion. 3611 02:43:51,768 --> 02:43:55,368 If they comments they should be 3612 02:43:57,141 --> 02:43:57,774 contained in the motion. 3613 02:43:57,774 --> 02:44:00,911 I'm not going to vote on 3614 02:44:00,911 --> 02:44:01,110 everything on this 3615 02:44:01,110 --> 02:44:02,120 . 3616 02:44:02,120 --> 02:44:05,612 I'm going to pull it off 3617 02:44:12,189 --> 02:44:13,190 separately. 3618 02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:13,524 Does anyone have anything of 3619 02:44:13,524 --> 02:44:14,691 questions on? 3620 02:44:14,691 --> 02:44:15,392 Not comments but questions are 3621 02:44:15,392 --> 02:44:15,926 something you MAY abstain or 3622 02:44:15,926 --> 02:44:17,728 want to vote against? 3623 02:44:17,728 --> 02:44:22,528 If not I will ask for a motion 3624 02:44:27,103 --> 02:44:28,138 for eight a through m. 3625 02:44:28,138 --> 02:44:28,405 Supervisor stuart, did you have 3626 02:44:28,405 --> 02:44:29,273 anything. 3627 02:44:29,273 --> 02:44:32,273 >> George Stewart: I wanted to 3628 02:44:34,344 --> 02:44:35,345 pull off 8j and k. 3629 02:44:35,345 --> 02:44:37,247 >> Chair Deshundra: anyone 3630 02:44:37,247 --> 02:44:37,514 else? 3631 02:44:37,514 --> 02:44:39,514 I'm sorry. 3632 02:44:40,350 --> 02:44:42,119 MADAM County attorney? 3633 02:44:42,119 --> 02:44:46,319 >> I want to make clear that on 3634 02:44:48,424 --> 02:44:49,393 8f and g it includes the 3635 02:44:49,393 --> 02:44:51,793 proffers dated 9/1 a supervisor 3636 02:44:56,333 --> 02:44:56,467 stuart mentioned before 3637 02:44:56,467 --> 02:44:57,468 . 3638 02:44:57,468 --> 02:44:58,268 >> Chair Deshundra: I would 3639 02:44:58,268 --> 02:45:02,468 like to get a motion for eight 3640 02:45:08,378 --> 02:45:09,460 a through I, 8l through m. 3641 02:45:09,460 --> 02:45:12,460 >> so moved in with the 3642 02:45:13,417 --> 02:45:13,951 proffers dated as said by the 3643 02:45:13,951 --> 02:45:14,918 county attorney. 3644 02:45:14,918 --> 02:45:16,987 >> Chair Deshundra: is there a 3645 02:45:16,987 --> 02:45:18,689 second? 3646 02:45:18,689 --> 02:45:18,789 Your comments 3647 02:45:18,789 --> 02:45:20,290 . 3648 02:45:20,290 --> 02:45:21,225 Are you going to get in there 3649 02:45:21,225 --> 02:45:23,625 or stare at me 3650 02:45:30,234 --> 02:45:30,901 ? 3651 02:45:30,901 --> 02:45:33,737 It has been a long afternoon. 3652 02:45:33,737 --> 02:45:36,737 Any discussion on those items? 3653 02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:42,208 If not let's go ahead and vote 3654 02:45:46,150 --> 02:45:48,150 on those items. 3655 02:45:49,753 --> 02:45:51,753 >> vote unanimous. 3656 02:45:57,961 --> 02:45:58,762 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 3657 02:45:58,762 --> 02:46:01,532 We are going to go to 8j and k. 3658 02:46:01,532 --> 02:46:05,132 Do you want to separate that 3659 02:46:08,500 --> 02:46:08,772 out? 3660 02:46:08,772 --> 02:46:09,972 >> I want to make a motion to 3661 02:46:09,972 --> 02:46:11,575 deny 3662 02:46:11,575 --> 02:46:13,575 . 3663 02:46:19,917 --> 02:46:22,917 Motion that we deny rezoning 3664 02:46:29,159 --> 02:46:31,559 2025 item 8j and 2025 32 and 3665 02:46:33,430 --> 02:46:35,430 rezoning 2026 22 3666 02:46:40,370 --> 02:46:41,438 . 3667 02:46:41,438 --> 02:46:44,438 >> Chair Deshundra: is there a 3668 02:46:44,641 --> 02:46:45,342 second? 3669 02:46:45,342 --> 02:46:47,511 Does not seem there is a second 3670 02:46:47,511 --> 02:46:47,644 so that fails 3671 02:46:47,644 --> 02:46:48,712 . 3672 02:46:48,712 --> 02:46:52,816 Would you like to make a motion 3673 02:46:52,816 --> 02:46:53,550 to move this forward? 3674 02:46:53,550 --> 02:46:57,150 >> I move that we approve item 3675 02:47:06,763 --> 02:47:07,231 j and k MADAM Chair this is a 3676 02:47:07,231 --> 02:47:09,631 buy write data center. 3677 02:47:11,168 --> 02:47:15,368 It is going to get built what 3678 02:47:16,874 --> 02:47:17,774 this is doing is aligning which 3679 02:47:17,774 --> 02:47:19,910 are different of one single 3680 02:47:19,910 --> 02:47:21,910 zoning 3681 02:47:23,213 --> 02:47:25,213 . 3682 02:47:27,384 --> 02:47:28,850 In the same time we are getting 3683 02:47:28,850 --> 02:47:28,919 buffers against the apartments 3684 02:47:28,919 --> 02:47:31,319 that help protect the 3685 02:47:32,322 --> 02:47:32,422 residential community 3686 02:47:32,422 --> 02:47:33,389 . 3687 02:47:33,389 --> 02:47:37,589 I would point out much of the 3688 02:47:37,761 --> 02:47:38,796 land cleared. 3689 02:47:38,796 --> 02:47:41,796 There is already some stations 3690 02:47:42,633 --> 02:47:46,233 being built on the site that 3691 02:47:47,304 --> 02:47:47,871 they will plug into this is a 3692 02:47:47,871 --> 02:47:49,173 buy write data center. 3693 02:47:49,173 --> 02:47:51,909 It's not a matter of voting for 3694 02:47:51,909 --> 02:47:52,900 or against a data center 3695 02:47:52,900 --> 02:47:54,900 . 3696 02:47:56,814 --> 02:47:57,514 It is aligning the different 3697 02:47:57,514 --> 02:47:58,315 zonings of the land so they are 3698 02:47:58,315 --> 02:48:01,315 all one zoning in the 3699 02:48:02,619 --> 02:48:03,654 development. 3700 02:48:03,654 --> 02:48:06,123 is the intent is to kill a data 3701 02:48:06,123 --> 02:48:09,326 center, this is not what is 3702 02:48:09,326 --> 02:48:11,726 happening pickets by right 3703 02:48:11,895 --> 02:48:15,495 getting built pick this is just 3704 02:48:16,633 --> 02:48:17,534 a matter of a technical change 3705 02:48:17,534 --> 02:48:19,503 to align it to a single thing 3706 02:48:19,503 --> 02:48:23,703 and so for that simple reason I 3707 02:48:27,177 --> 02:48:27,411 will be supporting 3708 02:48:27,411 --> 02:48:28,145 . 3709 02:48:28,145 --> 02:48:29,379 >> I wanted to reinforce what 3710 02:48:29,379 --> 02:48:31,140 he said and I appreciate 3711 02:48:31,140 --> 02:48:32,150 supervisor stuart your thought 3712 02:48:32,150 --> 02:48:35,615 and spirit behind it but this 3713 02:48:36,620 --> 02:48:37,588 is in the overly and if we 3714 02:48:37,588 --> 02:48:39,790 don't approve it they could 3715 02:48:39,790 --> 02:48:42,790 build the data's centers) So 3716 02:48:46,730 --> 02:48:47,664 folks have concerns about the 3717 02:48:47,664 --> 02:48:48,699 residential impact, they could 3718 02:48:48,699 --> 02:48:49,699 build the data centers close to 3719 02:48:49,699 --> 02:48:51,902 the existing residential and so 3720 02:48:51,902 --> 02:48:51,969 that is one 3721 02:48:51,969 --> 02:48:52,803 . 3722 02:48:52,803 --> 02:48:57,300 I had a good discussion of the 3723 02:48:57,740 --> 02:48:57,975 applicant. 3724 02:48:57,975 --> 02:48:58,575 This is one of the first to 3725 02:48:58,575 --> 02:49:01,575 utilize the high energy his 3726 02:49:03,780 --> 02:49:04,548 facility so that should be 3727 02:49:04,548 --> 02:49:05,949 highlighted in another reason 3728 02:49:05,949 --> 02:49:08,949 we should be supporting this 3729 02:49:11,555 --> 02:49:11,755 pickle wanted to highlight that 3730 02:49:11,755 --> 02:49:12,656 . 3731 02:49:12,656 --> 02:49:13,423 They also took some of the 3732 02:49:13,423 --> 02:49:15,423 recommendations around proffers 3733 02:49:17,528 --> 02:49:17,694 and green infrastructure 3734 02:49:17,694 --> 02:49:18,494 . 3735 02:49:18,494 --> 02:49:21,331 Again, would not be done by a 3736 02:49:21,331 --> 02:49:22,299 buy write development pickle 3737 02:49:22,299 --> 02:49:23,901 sought a good conversation with 3738 02:49:23,901 --> 02:49:26,301 them around power utilization 3739 02:49:31,575 --> 02:49:31,775 efficiency 3740 02:49:31,775 --> 02:49:32,543 . 3741 02:49:32,543 --> 02:49:33,310 Knowing they are doing as much 3742 02:49:33,310 --> 02:49:34,278 as they can to make the 3743 02:49:34,278 --> 02:49:37,878 datacenter as it will be built 3744 02:49:40,350 --> 02:49:41,317 out as efficient as possible in 3745 02:49:41,317 --> 02:49:42,190 understood scoring there'd be a 3746 02:49:42,190 --> 02:49:45,190 substation that it will draw 3747 02:49:45,189 --> 02:49:49,590 from and by the way it will not 3748 02:49:49,590 --> 02:49:49,726 max out the substation pickle 3749 02:49:49,726 --> 02:49:50,660 we are not dealing with the 3750 02:49:50,660 --> 02:49:52,963 situation where we are going to 3751 02:49:52,963 --> 02:49:53,300 make them in somewhere else 3752 02:49:53,300 --> 02:49:55,300 . 3753 02:49:57,167 --> 02:49:57,668 Again, understanding his 3754 02:49:57,668 --> 02:50:00,680 concern around for the 3755 02:50:00,270 --> 02:50:00,971 development of data centers not 3756 02:50:00,971 --> 02:50:02,773 only in prince william county 3757 02:50:02,773 --> 02:50:05,750 but that the commonwealth 3758 02:50:05,750 --> 02:50:05,742 . 3759 02:50:05,742 --> 02:50:08,879 This one goes a long way 3760 02:50:08,879 --> 02:50:09,513 answering the concerns and 3761 02:50:09,513 --> 02:50:12,513 another reason why I look 3762 02:50:15,520 --> 02:50:15,752 forward to sunsetting the 3763 02:50:15,752 --> 02:50:18,550 overlay and being able to eat 3764 02:50:18,550 --> 02:50:21,550 be you said by right. 3765 02:50:23,930 --> 02:50:24,228 Thank you MADAM Chair. 3766 02:50:24,228 --> 02:50:25,950 >> I get the whole thing about 3767 02:50:25,950 --> 02:50:28,950 the overlay district but moving 3768 02:50:28,265 --> 02:50:28,999 something from someone's porch 3769 02:50:28,999 --> 02:50:29,833 that their lawn doesn't make a 3770 02:50:29,833 --> 02:50:31,833 difference. 3771 02:50:32,669 --> 02:50:33,437 I think we do constituents 3772 02:50:33,437 --> 02:50:34,605 dirty when we build data 3773 02:50:34,605 --> 02:50:35,639 centers next to their homes 3774 02:50:35,639 --> 02:50:37,608 . 3775 02:50:37,608 --> 02:50:39,610 >> Chair Deshundra: going to 3776 02:50:39,610 --> 02:50:40,511 pick up on that. 3777 02:50:40,511 --> 02:50:43,511 We are not doing the 3778 02:50:45,682 --> 02:50:46,517 constituents dirty. 3779 02:50:46,517 --> 02:50:49,686 I'm not a fan of the industry 3780 02:50:49,686 --> 02:50:50,354 but I go through the packets 3781 02:50:50,354 --> 02:50:51,188 and I read and meet with the 3782 02:50:51,188 --> 02:50:53,588 applicant and asked them 3783 02:50:53,991 --> 02:50:56,991 questions we are not moving 3784 02:50:57,261 --> 02:50:58,280 from the porch to their loan. 3785 02:50:58,280 --> 02:50:59,596 That is the only reason why I 3786 02:50:59,596 --> 02:51:01,598 would support this in this got 3787 02:51:01,598 --> 02:51:03,598 a unanimous vote 3788 02:51:06,170 --> 02:51:06,770 . 3789 02:51:06,770 --> 02:51:09,770 Some of the people are 3790 02:51:11,475 --> 02:51:14,978 passionate but the fact that I 3791 02:51:14,978 --> 02:51:19,178 got a unanimous vote gives me a 3792 02:51:20,184 --> 02:51:20,851 lot of confidence but it would 3793 02:51:20,851 --> 02:51:21,118 literally be in their back 3794 02:51:21,118 --> 02:51:21,718 yard. 3795 02:51:21,718 --> 02:51:24,718 E are moving it from 3796 02:51:28,425 --> 02:51:29,126 the porch and we have to do 3797 02:51:29,126 --> 02:51:30,127 this because we don't want it 3798 02:51:30,127 --> 02:51:33,727 right next to homes pick him 3799 02:51:35,320 --> 02:51:35,999 going to break protocol. 3800 02:51:35,999 --> 02:51:36,899 you are not going to present 3801 02:51:36,899 --> 02:51:38,902 but I want you to bring up the 3802 02:51:38,902 --> 02:51:42,502 slide because I want people to 3803 02:51:43,340 --> 02:51:43,574 see what we are doing 3804 02:51:43,574 --> 02:51:44,508 . 3805 02:51:44,508 --> 02:51:45,275 I will have a little bit more 3806 02:51:45,275 --> 02:51:48,110 say, but I want to give you the 3807 02:51:48,110 --> 02:51:48,745 time to do that. 3808 02:51:48,745 --> 02:51:52,583 You are just going to pull up 3809 02:51:52,583 --> 02:51:52,716 the slide 3810 02:51:52,716 --> 02:51:53,717 . 3811 02:51:53,717 --> 02:51:57,317 What by right would look like 3812 02:51:57,921 --> 02:51:58,755 versus if we approved at this 3813 02:51:58,755 --> 02:51:59,456 project and I want the visual 3814 02:51:59,456 --> 02:52:01,925 on the screen so everyone 3815 02:52:01,925 --> 02:52:01,992 understands what we are doing 3816 02:52:01,992 --> 02:52:03,992 . 3817 02:52:04,761 --> 02:52:06,530 I don't want people to play to 3818 02:52:06,530 --> 02:52:06,597 an audience 3819 02:52:06,597 --> 02:52:08,597 . 3820 02:52:09,333 --> 02:52:12,933 I don't want to stoke fear 3821 02:52:14,571 --> 02:52:15,506 where no fear exists pick 3822 02:52:15,506 --> 02:52:17,508 that's where I break protocol. 3823 02:52:17,508 --> 02:52:17,608 I don't want people alarmed 3824 02:52:17,608 --> 02:52:18,342 . 3825 02:52:18,342 --> 02:52:21,342 I don't want people writing 3826 02:52:25,549 --> 02:52:26,917 into us. 3827 02:52:26,917 --> 02:52:29,219 I don't recall getting any 3828 02:52:29,219 --> 02:52:32,819 concern for part of the reason 3829 02:52:34,525 --> 02:52:37,961 is you see by right development 3830 02:52:37,961 --> 02:52:38,762 , that is different zoning that 3831 02:52:38,762 --> 02:52:41,762 would not allow for a 3832 02:52:41,932 --> 02:52:45,532 datacenter to go on that that's 3833 02:52:48,500 --> 02:52:48,672 where you're making the change 3834 02:52:48,672 --> 02:52:50,274 in so they could move the 3835 02:52:50,274 --> 02:52:52,509 datacenter a little further 3836 02:52:52,509 --> 02:52:52,576 over 3837 02:52:52,576 --> 02:52:54,576 . 3838 02:53:01,418 --> 02:53:02,419 By right they can still build 3839 02:53:02,419 --> 02:53:03,120 but I don't understand why 3840 02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:04,988 anyone thinks the by rightist 3841 02:53:04,988 --> 02:53:06,988 the proposed. 3842 02:53:08,525 --> 02:53:08,625 I don't like data centers 3843 02:53:08,625 --> 02:53:09,493 . 3844 02:53:09,493 --> 02:53:13,930 I'm not a friend of the 3845 02:53:14,398 --> 02:53:15,399 industry but I will be damned 3846 02:53:15,399 --> 02:53:18,735 if I allow a project to move 3847 02:53:18,735 --> 02:53:20,337 forward that could be worse 3848 02:53:20,337 --> 02:53:23,937 than if we worked with the 3849 02:53:27,878 --> 02:53:28,612 applicant got something better. 3850 02:53:28,612 --> 02:53:29,513 >> Tom Gordy: when we are 3851 02:53:29,513 --> 02:53:30,414 dealing with something by right 3852 02:53:30,414 --> 02:53:31,582 we have the opportunity to make 3853 02:53:31,582 --> 02:53:32,549 it better. 3854 02:53:32,549 --> 02:53:37,949 We owe it to do what we can to 3855 02:53:39,823 --> 02:53:40,457 make it better. 3856 02:53:40,457 --> 02:53:41,325 We are going to vote on 3857 02:53:41,325 --> 02:53:43,725 eliminating the opportunity for 3858 02:53:46,196 --> 02:53:47,131 by right development not as 3859 02:53:47,131 --> 02:53:49,500 something I've been working on. 3860 02:53:49,500 --> 02:53:53,700 I voted to do that by the 3861 02:53:55,806 --> 02:53:57,608 previous gainesville supervisor 3862 02:53:57,608 --> 02:53:58,308 . 3863 02:53:58,308 --> 02:54:01,111 We are trying to make for a 3864 02:54:01,111 --> 02:54:01,211 better product 3865 02:54:01,211 --> 02:54:03,211 . 3866 02:54:05,482 --> 02:54:06,350 We owe it to our citizens this 3867 02:54:06,350 --> 02:54:09,119 is in the middle of the horn 3868 02:54:09,119 --> 02:54:10,200 baker industrial area. 3869 02:54:10,200 --> 02:54:12,189 All of the land is already in 3870 02:54:12,189 --> 02:54:13,223 the industrial area. 3871 02:54:13,223 --> 02:54:15,491 This area was design a plan for 3872 02:54:15,491 --> 02:54:16,894 industrial activities and it 3873 02:54:16,894 --> 02:54:20,931 can be any number of things and 3874 02:54:20,931 --> 02:54:21,799 there are things from an 3875 02:54:21,799 --> 02:54:24,199 industrial perspective are a 3876 02:54:28,572 --> 02:54:29,673 lot heavier and impactful from 3877 02:54:29,673 --> 02:54:32,730 a transportation emissions in 3878 02:54:32,509 --> 02:54:32,609 all sorts of things 3879 02:54:32,609 --> 02:54:33,243 . 3880 02:54:33,243 --> 02:54:36,843 If we can have a situation 3881 02:54:36,847 --> 02:54:37,714 where we can make a better 3882 02:54:37,714 --> 02:54:40,114 product to better protect 3883 02:54:41,418 --> 02:54:44,540 citizens that something we will 3884 02:54:44,540 --> 02:54:45,550 continue to support as long as 3885 02:54:45,550 --> 02:54:45,689 the by right opportunities 3886 02:54:45,689 --> 02:54:47,357 continues to exist. 3887 02:54:47,357 --> 02:54:49,357 We work to 3888 02:54:53,697 --> 02:54:56,330 try to identify and solve the 3889 02:54:56,330 --> 02:54:59,330 issues to make the situations 3890 02:55:00,337 --> 02:55:00,404 better 3891 02:55:00,404 --> 02:55:02,404 . 3892 02:55:04,740 --> 02:55:07,674 Again, I get where you are 3893 02:55:10,581 --> 02:55:11,448 coming from but again, I have 3894 02:55:11,448 --> 02:55:12,348 to fight for my citizens to try 3895 02:55:12,348 --> 02:55:15,185 to improve the quality of life 3896 02:55:15,185 --> 02:55:18,185 as long as the current 3897 02:55:18,422 --> 02:55:21,258 ordinances are the way they are 3898 02:55:21,258 --> 02:55:25,458 we are trying to fix that so 3899 02:55:27,698 --> 02:55:28,899 the by right no longer exists. 3900 02:55:28,899 --> 02:55:29,299 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 3901 02:55:29,299 --> 02:55:29,932 angry. 3902 02:55:29,932 --> 02:55:32,332 >> Victor Angry: I normally 3903 02:55:33,403 --> 02:55:34,720 don't chime in on these but 3904 02:55:34,720 --> 02:55:37,672 that comment was a lot about 3905 02:55:39,209 --> 02:55:40,210 from the porch to the yard to. 3906 02:55:40,210 --> 02:55:44,410 I want to remind the board and 3907 02:55:45,249 --> 02:55:45,983 remind the audience supervisor 3908 02:55:45,983 --> 02:55:46,783 gordy said 2 to 3 months ago 3909 02:55:46,783 --> 02:55:50,220 that we were going to have 3910 02:55:50,220 --> 02:55:51,540 cases like this, for rent it's 3911 02:55:51,540 --> 02:55:52,220 by right and we have an 3912 02:55:52,220 --> 02:55:54,422 opportunity to make that 3913 02:55:55,292 --> 02:55:55,659 product better picked this is 3914 02:55:55,659 --> 02:55:57,427 that project. 3915 02:55:57,427 --> 02:55:59,196 Maybe there is another one. 3916 02:55:59,196 --> 02:56:01,765 I listen to you when you said 3917 02:56:01,765 --> 02:56:05,365 it and I listened to the 3918 02:56:06,703 --> 02:56:10,303 applicant as I came to this 3919 02:56:10,706 --> 02:56:13,377 conclusion pick we have to get 3920 02:56:13,377 --> 02:56:13,944 away from trying to stir up my 3921 02:56:13,944 --> 02:56:17,544 group and get the folks in 3922 02:56:18,916 --> 02:56:19,783 think this is doing wrong. 3923 02:56:19,783 --> 02:56:20,751 This is far better and it 3924 02:56:20,751 --> 02:56:23,587 would've been exactly what the 3925 02:56:23,587 --> 02:56:24,388 by right development has. 3926 02:56:24,388 --> 02:56:26,690 I appreciate the effort of what 3927 02:56:26,690 --> 02:56:27,457 you have done. 3928 02:56:27,457 --> 02:56:31,161 You did what you said and here 3929 02:56:31,161 --> 02:56:31,261 it is 3930 02:56:31,261 --> 02:56:31,829 . 3931 02:56:31,829 --> 02:56:34,229 I am supporting this. 3932 02:56:34,364 --> 02:56:35,599 Thanks a lot. 3933 02:56:35,599 --> 02:56:37,134 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 3934 02:56:37,134 --> 02:56:37,234 vega 3935 02:56:37,234 --> 02:56:39,234 . 3936 02:56:41,405 --> 02:56:42,439 >> Yesli Vega: I want to vote. 3937 02:56:42,439 --> 02:56:44,839 >> Chair Deshundra: can we 3938 02:57:04,761 --> 02:57:06,761 please vote? 3939 02:57:09,833 --> 02:57:10,834 >> motion passes 6/1 supervisor 3940 02:57:10,834 --> 02:57:13,834 stuart voting no and supervisor 3941 02:57:15,370 --> 02:57:16,106 bailey absent from vote. 3942 02:57:16,106 --> 02:57:16,539 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 3943 02:57:16,539 --> 02:57:18,539 so much. 3944 02:57:21,778 --> 02:57:21,979 We are now going to move to 3945 02:57:21,979 --> 02:57:22,813 eight. 3946 02:57:22,813 --> 02:57:25,213 Supervisor bailey, would you 3947 02:57:26,783 --> 02:57:29,783 like to make the motion? 3948 02:57:30,187 --> 02:57:31,421 >> MADAM Chair, I move we 3949 02:57:31,421 --> 02:57:33,421 approve item 8n. 3950 02:57:35,259 --> 02:57:35,792 >> Chair Deshundra: it has been 3951 02:57:35,792 --> 02:57:37,792 moved and seconded. 3952 02:57:40,464 --> 02:57:41,131 Any discussion? 3953 02:57:41,131 --> 02:57:44,731 Let's go ahead and take our 3954 02:57:55,780 --> 02:57:57,780 votes. 3955 02:58:08,258 --> 02:58:10,258 8n. 3956 02:58:10,794 --> 02:58:12,794 >> let's start over. 3957 02:58:13,630 --> 02:58:17,863 I thought it was good but eat n 3958 02:58:18,402 --> 02:58:22,200 park is that on your screens 3959 02:58:23,941 --> 02:58:24,441 now? 3960 02:58:24,441 --> 02:58:26,441 How about now? 3961 02:58:28,645 --> 02:58:29,780 Okay. 3962 02:58:29,780 --> 02:58:30,781 No, but if the item 3963 02:58:30,781 --> 02:58:32,781 . 3964 02:58:36,386 --> 02:58:37,421 Okay. 3965 02:58:37,421 --> 02:58:39,821 Supervisor bailey, second by 3966 02:58:42,726 --> 02:58:42,960 supervisor boddye. 3967 02:58:42,960 --> 02:58:44,960 Record. 3968 02:58:49,133 --> 02:58:51,133 How about now 3969 02:58:53,837 --> 02:58:54,104 .. Motion passes 3970 02:58:54,104 --> 02:58:56,104 7/1. 3971 02:59:00,410 --> 02:59:00,577 Chair jefferson voting number 3972 02:59:00,577 --> 02:59:01,612 . 3973 02:59:01,612 --> 02:59:02,546 >> Chair Deshundra: we are now 3974 02:59:02,546 --> 02:59:03,547 going to move to agenda item 3975 02:59:03,547 --> 02:59:04,581 number nine in the discounting 3976 02:59:04,581 --> 02:59:05,149 executive time. 3977 02:59:05,149 --> 02:59:07,549 The floor is yours. 3978 02:59:10,870 --> 02:59:12,487 >> first will come back. 3979 02:59:13,190 --> 02:59:15,159 I have a few updates and I will 3980 02:59:15,159 --> 02:59:17,270 jump right in. 3981 02:59:17,270 --> 02:59:20,270 My office has worked to 3982 02:59:20,731 --> 02:59:21,331 complete an audit of the board 3983 02:59:21,331 --> 02:59:23,331 directive tracking records 3984 02:59:23,867 --> 02:59:25,867 which identified 17 directives 3985 02:59:26,537 --> 02:59:29,537 marked or closed after the 3986 02:59:32,750 --> 02:59:33,760 requested work had been done 3987 02:59:33,760 --> 02:59:33,710 but had not received a separate 3988 02:59:33,710 --> 02:59:35,212 closure notice to provide 3989 02:59:35,212 --> 02:59:35,913 transparent accounting. 3990 02:59:35,913 --> 02:59:38,913 You received a memo identifying 3991 02:59:40,784 --> 02:59:41,685 17 directives, subjects, dates 3992 02:59:41,685 --> 02:59:45,285 and actions taken on the basis 3993 02:59:46,190 --> 02:59:47,191 for closure this included 3994 02:59:47,191 --> 02:59:48,192 directives such as funding for 3995 02:59:48,192 --> 02:59:49,259 additional noise testing, the 3996 02:59:49,259 --> 02:59:49,993 adoption of an ordinance 3997 02:59:49,993 --> 02:59:50,794 related to tax relief for 3998 02:59:50,794 --> 02:59:52,794 elderly 3999 02:59:53,664 --> 02:59:56,640 , the adoption of the 4000 02:59:57,201 --> 02:59:57,768 ordinance regarding the three 4001 02:59:57,768 --> 03:00:00,768 year dog licenses and other 4002 03:00:01,338 --> 03:00:01,405 land-use matters 4003 03:00:01,405 --> 03:00:02,439 . 4004 03:00:02,439 --> 03:00:05,439 In addition to those directives 4005 03:00:07,611 --> 03:00:10,110 , three other directives have 4006 03:00:14,485 --> 03:00:15,486 been closed including review in 4007 03:00:15,486 --> 03:00:16,153 the county current practices in 4008 03:00:16,153 --> 03:00:18,553 authority related to angled 4009 03:00:20,457 --> 03:00:21,580 parking and cul-de-sacs. 4010 03:00:21,580 --> 03:00:22,250 And how the board could 4011 03:00:22,250 --> 03:00:25,250 prohibit angled parking if it 4012 03:00:27,464 --> 03:00:28,499 is to do so. 4013 03:00:28,499 --> 03:00:29,500 You received an update on the 4014 03:00:29,500 --> 03:00:30,234 expansion of the trap neuter 4015 03:00:30,234 --> 03:00:31,935 vaccinate return program which 4016 03:00:31,935 --> 03:00:35,535 we talked about today and they 4017 03:00:38,542 --> 03:00:40,942 visibility study for deploying 4018 03:00:41,245 --> 03:00:44,245 solar parking canopies at other 4019 03:00:44,548 --> 03:00:46,548 publicly owned rooftops. 4020 03:00:49,753 --> 03:00:50,420 Over the last month I sent 4021 03:00:50,420 --> 03:00:51,355 several updates to the board 4022 03:00:51,355 --> 03:00:53,755 this includes messages about 4023 03:00:54,725 --> 03:00:57,125 the 2026 community survey that 4024 03:00:58,562 --> 03:01:00,197 will launch this month with a 4025 03:01:00,197 --> 03:01:00,764 mailing to randomly select also 4026 03:01:00,764 --> 03:01:03,164 for all residents to 4027 03:01:04,434 --> 03:01:06,434 participate beginning OCTOBER 4028 03:01:09,239 --> 03:01:09,939 12. 4029 03:01:09,939 --> 03:01:12,176 As a county we have been doing 4030 03:01:12,176 --> 03:01:14,576 this since 1993 so appreciate 4031 03:01:17,140 --> 03:01:17,748 the tradition that has been 4032 03:01:17,748 --> 03:01:18,649 established on the way in which 4033 03:01:18,649 --> 03:01:20,551 we give feedback and use of 4034 03:01:20,551 --> 03:01:21,552 that feedback for programs and 4035 03:01:21,552 --> 03:01:24,552 services here in prince william 4036 03:01:24,655 --> 03:01:25,655 county. 4037 03:01:25,655 --> 03:01:27,591 He also received an update on 4038 03:01:27,591 --> 03:01:29,591 panhandling signage. 4039 03:01:32,863 --> 03:01:33,797 The update included timing and 4040 03:01:33,797 --> 03:01:34,765 the placement of signs of the 4041 03:01:34,765 --> 03:01:37,601 commitment of meeting with each 4042 03:01:37,601 --> 03:01:37,701 board option office 4043 03:01:37,701 --> 03:01:38,367 . 4044 03:01:38,367 --> 03:01:39,403 You received an update on 4045 03:01:39,403 --> 03:01:41,403 boards, committees, commissions 4046 03:01:44,441 --> 03:01:45,509 or bcc in term details this 4047 03:01:45,509 --> 03:01:48,509 work was requested and included 4048 03:01:49,413 --> 03:01:50,280 a summary of the applicable 4049 03:01:50,280 --> 03:01:53,880 term lengths as well as the 4050 03:01:57,855 --> 03:01:58,722 completed audit reports and so 4051 03:01:58,722 --> 03:01:59,456 I'm happy to answer any 4052 03:01:59,456 --> 03:02:02,456 questions related to the audit 4053 03:02:02,793 --> 03:02:03,494 and the report that followed. 4054 03:02:03,494 --> 03:02:05,894 You received a consultant 4055 03:02:10,200 --> 03:02:11,680 report for the planning update. 4056 03:02:11,680 --> 03:02:11,835 The board asked for the update 4057 03:02:11,835 --> 03:02:12,703 during the JULY work session 4058 03:02:12,703 --> 03:02:13,670 with the planning office 4059 03:02:13,670 --> 03:02:16,573 provided the board with an 4060 03:02:16,573 --> 03:02:17,174 update on their workload 4061 03:02:17,174 --> 03:02:17,674 . 4062 03:02:17,674 --> 03:02:18,342 Specifically the board 4063 03:02:18,342 --> 03:02:19,176 requested information regarding 4064 03:02:19,176 --> 03:02:22,176 the level of spending on 4065 03:02:27,484 --> 03:02:28,485 consultant services, which was 4066 03:02:28,485 --> 03:02:29,386 provided to you for the current 4067 03:02:29,386 --> 03:02:30,870 orders for professional 4068 03:02:30,870 --> 03:02:30,988 assistance for the department 4069 03:02:30,988 --> 03:02:31,855 projects and initiatives funded 4070 03:02:31,855 --> 03:02:34,255 by the planning office's 4071 03:02:36,260 --> 03:02:36,660 budget. 4072 03:02:36,660 --> 03:02:37,528 The board said it earlier. 4073 03:02:37,528 --> 03:02:38,428 I want to acknowledge chief 4074 03:02:38,428 --> 03:02:40,428 matt. 4075 03:02:44,334 --> 03:02:45,302 He, as you have said to, has 4076 03:02:45,302 --> 03:02:46,737 been that the county since 1997 4077 03:02:46,737 --> 03:02:50,337 and has made his way through 4078 03:02:50,340 --> 03:02:52,543 the ranks in the fire and 4079 03:02:52,543 --> 03:02:54,943 rescue service over the 49 4080 03:02:56,280 --> 03:02:57,214 years ago want to take the 4081 03:02:57,214 --> 03:02:57,781 opportunity not just a prince 4082 03:02:57,781 --> 03:03:00,181 william county but our 4083 03:03:04,588 --> 03:03:05,389 organization and to the 4084 03:03:05,389 --> 03:03:05,556 generations of public servants 4085 03:03:05,556 --> 03:03:05,756 he 4086 03:03:05,756 --> 03:03:06,790 impacted. 4087 03:03:06,790 --> 03:03:08,625 Thank you chief, thank you matt 4088 03:03:08,625 --> 03:03:09,359 . 4089 03:03:09,359 --> 03:03:12,359 Wanted to use the opportunity 4090 03:03:14,310 --> 03:03:14,832 to thank him for his service. 4091 03:03:14,832 --> 03:03:15,532 49 years is absolutely 4092 03:03:15,532 --> 03:03:18,532 remarkable and so thank you 4093 03:03:21,405 --> 03:03:22,406 chief. 4094 03:03:22,406 --> 03:03:23,407 I also want to recognize the 4095 03:03:23,407 --> 03:03:25,407 department of economic 4096 03:03:26,430 --> 03:03:27,377 development and tourism. 4097 03:03:27,377 --> 03:03:30,377 Each of the international did 4098 03:03:33,116 --> 03:03:33,984 abundant economic counsel does 4099 03:03:33,984 --> 03:03:37,584 a survey of all the economic 4100 03:03:40,157 --> 03:03:40,557 development organizations 4101 03:03:40,557 --> 03:03:41,225 . 4102 03:03:41,225 --> 03:03:43,225 In 2026 the economic 4103 03:03:46,196 --> 03:03:47,640 development tourism team in 4104 03:03:47,640 --> 03:03:48,980 prince william county was 4105 03:03:48,980 --> 03:03:49,990 ranked number one received the 4106 03:03:49,990 --> 03:03:50,901 economic development 4107 03:03:50,901 --> 03:03:51,534 organization of the year for 4108 03:03:51,534 --> 03:03:53,534 populations over 500,000. 4109 03:03:55,305 --> 03:03:58,305 This is remarkable here because 4110 03:04:04,381 --> 03:04:04,515 as the most populated county 4111 03:04:04,515 --> 03:04:05,482 . 4112 03:04:05,482 --> 03:04:06,283 Because it we are part of the 4113 03:04:06,283 --> 03:04:07,718 most populated county category, 4114 03:04:07,718 --> 03:04:07,985 we are competing against 4115 03:04:07,985 --> 03:04:09,985 montr?Al 4116 03:04:11,755 --> 03:04:11,989 , new orleans 4117 03:04:11,989 --> 03:04:13,989 , detroit, 4118 03:04:16,126 --> 03:04:17,270 phoenix, all of these big 4119 03:04:17,270 --> 03:04:19,620 organizations and it really 4120 03:04:19,620 --> 03:04:21,532 means the world and it really 4121 03:04:21,532 --> 03:04:22,232 speaks to the board's 4122 03:04:22,232 --> 03:04:24,434 commitment and the investment 4123 03:04:24,434 --> 03:04:26,970 in the team and the team itself 4124 03:04:26,970 --> 03:04:31,170 that they have done the work of 4125 03:04:32,576 --> 03:04:32,709 being recognized 4126 03:04:32,709 --> 03:04:33,644 . 4127 03:04:33,644 --> 03:04:34,344 A big shout out to the economic 4128 03:04:34,344 --> 03:04:36,744 development tourism team for 4129 03:04:36,980 --> 03:04:38,980 the recognition. 4130 03:04:39,850 --> 03:04:40,517 I also wanted to thank the 4131 03:04:40,517 --> 03:04:44,117 board as we are closing out 4132 03:04:45,289 --> 03:04:47,691 that year and opening up the 4133 03:04:47,691 --> 03:04:50,259 current year that the board 4134 03:04:50,259 --> 03:04:52,162 first invested in an increase 4135 03:04:52,162 --> 03:04:55,162 in the communities program and 4136 03:04:57,901 --> 03:04:58,635 really wanted to show the board 4137 03:04:58,635 --> 03:04:59,570 the communications team 4138 03:04:59,570 --> 03:05:00,804 interviewed a few of the 4139 03:05:00,804 --> 03:05:03,204 community partners that have 4140 03:05:03,340 --> 03:05:06,940 received awards as part of the 4141 03:05:12,249 --> 03:05:12,883 fy 27 program wanted to take a 4142 03:05:12,883 --> 03:05:13,750 pause and show the board a 4143 03:05:13,750 --> 03:05:15,619 video of a few of the 4144 03:05:15,619 --> 03:05:17,387 organizations and what the 4145 03:05:17,387 --> 03:05:20,387 program means to the community. 4146 03:05:22,192 --> 03:05:25,192 Please come and jump in. 4147 03:05:26,330 --> 03:05:27,364 >> services, resources and 4148 03:05:27,364 --> 03:05:29,333 support that make a meaningful 4149 03:05:29,333 --> 03:05:29,967 difference in their lives pick 4150 03:05:29,967 --> 03:05:32,367 prince william county community 4151 03:05:32,736 --> 03:05:33,704 partner program I'm 4152 03:05:33,704 --> 03:05:34,705 strengthened network the 4153 03:05:34,705 --> 03:05:37,105 commercial ships with local 4154 03:05:37,574 --> 03:05:37,708 nonprofit organizations 4155 03:05:37,708 --> 03:05:38,375 . 4156 03:05:38,375 --> 03:05:39,276 Teacher funding is awarded 4157 03:05:39,276 --> 03:05:40,177 their competitive process with 4158 03:05:40,177 --> 03:05:42,577 applications evaluated based on 4159 03:05:43,113 --> 03:05:43,680 their alignment with the county 4160 03:05:43,680 --> 03:05:45,680 strategic planning key 4161 03:05:47,170 --> 03:05:47,116 performance indicators 4162 03:05:47,116 --> 03:05:48,850 . 4163 03:05:48,850 --> 03:05:48,685 In fiscal year 26 prince 4164 03:05:48,685 --> 03:05:51,850 william county provided more 4165 03:05:52,220 --> 03:05:54,220 than $570,000 to support 50 4166 03:05:55,759 --> 03:05:56,660 nonprofit organizations this 4167 03:05:56,660 --> 03:05:58,729 fiscal year the board of county 4168 03:05:58,729 --> 03:05:59,663 supervisors increased that 4169 03:05:59,663 --> 03:06:01,298 investment to one moment I'll 4170 03:06:01,298 --> 03:06:03,698 discuss expanding support to 32 4171 03:06:07,204 --> 03:06:07,337 organizations 4172 03:06:07,337 --> 03:06:08,372 . 4173 03:06:08,372 --> 03:06:09,306 Each organization brings its 4174 03:06:09,306 --> 03:06:10,306 trusty relationships and 4175 03:06:10,306 --> 03:06:11,308 understanding of the people it 4176 03:06:11,308 --> 03:06:13,708 serves pick together the 4177 03:06:14,578 --> 03:06:15,379 partnerships will extend the 4178 03:06:15,379 --> 03:06:16,130 recent reaches services 4179 03:06:16,130 --> 03:06:16,880 throughout prince william 4180 03:06:16,880 --> 03:06:18,749 county and the impact of that 4181 03:06:18,749 --> 03:06:21,585 partnership is best told by the 4182 03:06:21,585 --> 03:06:22,286 organizations doing the work. 4183 03:06:22,286 --> 03:06:22,853 's become separate dental the 4184 03:06:22,853 --> 03:06:24,853 founder and executive 4185 03:06:28,325 --> 03:06:28,959 director. 4186 03:06:28,959 --> 03:06:29,827 Here we provide a season 4187 03:06:29,827 --> 03:06:30,828 wardrobe to local children in 4188 03:06:30,828 --> 03:06:33,228 need that are experiencing 4189 03:06:36,667 --> 03:06:36,800 clothing and security 4190 03:06:36,800 --> 03:06:37,801 . 4191 03:06:37,801 --> 03:06:38,469 Every box is everything a child 4192 03:06:38,469 --> 03:06:42,690 needs to thrive in thank you 4193 03:06:42,104 --> 03:06:43,106 from everyone here, we have had 4194 03:06:43,106 --> 03:06:45,106 over 1000 volunteers walk 4195 03:06:48,412 --> 03:06:49,279 through our front door in the 4196 03:06:49,279 --> 03:06:50,280 past year and our friends 4197 03:06:50,280 --> 03:06:52,280 through the community 4198 03:06:55,118 --> 03:06:55,853 partnership program a been 4199 03:06:55,853 --> 03:06:56,753 amazing standing alongside us 4200 03:06:56,753 --> 03:07:00,353 and it allowed us to provide 4201 03:07:02,159 --> 03:07:03,160 seasonal wardrobes to thin 4202 03:07:03,160 --> 03:07:04,940 thousand local children helping 4203 03:07:04,940 --> 03:07:06,697 us impact the lives of kids in 4204 03:07:06,697 --> 03:07:07,564 prince william county. 4205 03:07:07,564 --> 03:07:08,265 >> my name is shannon. 4206 03:07:08,265 --> 03:07:09,800 Of the program director for 4207 03:07:09,800 --> 03:07:11,800 pink space theory. 4208 03:07:14,638 --> 03:07:15,172 Pink space there is a stem 4209 03:07:15,172 --> 03:07:16,540 education program. 4210 03:07:16,540 --> 03:07:18,940 We are operating afterschool 4211 03:07:19,743 --> 03:07:19,877 programs 4212 03:07:19,877 --> 03:07:20,844 . 4213 03:07:20,844 --> 03:07:23,914 What we are trying to do is get 4214 03:07:23,914 --> 03:07:25,382 kids excited about science, 4215 03:07:25,382 --> 03:07:27,382 math, technology. 4216 03:07:28,552 --> 03:07:31,989 >> last year we were able to 4217 03:07:31,989 --> 03:07:34,989 hold our families night with 4218 03:07:36,260 --> 03:07:36,894 which reached over 100 students 4219 03:07:36,894 --> 03:07:37,794 quickly brought and county 4220 03:07:37,794 --> 03:07:41,394 agencies as well as other local 4221 03:07:42,966 --> 03:07:43,967 businesses and have a great 4222 03:07:43,967 --> 03:07:44,567 night where they are learning 4223 03:07:44,567 --> 03:07:46,770 how science affects their 4224 03:07:46,770 --> 03:07:46,870 community 4225 03:07:46,870 --> 03:07:47,838 . 4226 03:07:47,838 --> 03:07:48,505 Through the community programs 4227 03:07:48,505 --> 03:07:52,705 we are able to do with the 4228 03:07:56,460 --> 03:07:57,800 funding, we are looking to 4229 03:07:57,800 --> 03:07:58,480 connect students and families 4230 03:07:58,480 --> 03:07:58,749 to local resources, career 4231 03:07:58,749 --> 03:08:00,551 opportunities and hopefully 4232 03:08:00,551 --> 03:08:01,351 connect them to future 4233 03:08:01,351 --> 03:08:03,751 employers within their own 4234 03:08:08,826 --> 03:08:09,893 community. 4235 03:08:09,893 --> 03:08:10,561 >> a medicament executive 4236 03:08:10,561 --> 03:08:11,862 director of rambo therapeutic 4237 03:08:11,862 --> 03:08:12,463 riding center's rainbow serves 4238 03:08:12,463 --> 03:08:14,863 individuals that have special 4239 03:08:15,320 --> 03:08:15,666 needs or unique challenges that 4240 03:08:15,666 --> 03:08:16,700 need additional support pick we 4241 03:08:16,700 --> 03:08:19,700 work with students with mental 4242 03:08:21,638 --> 03:08:22,390 health challenges, learning 4243 03:08:22,390 --> 03:08:22,339 disabilities pick 4244 03:08:22,339 --> 03:08:23,140 anyone who 4245 03:08:23,140 --> 03:08:23,840 would not thrive in a 4246 03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:25,840 traditional writing environment 4247 03:08:27,678 --> 03:08:28,445 . 4248 03:08:28,445 --> 03:08:29,346 We provide the services don't 4249 03:08:29,346 --> 03:08:32,346 work on mental health, physical 4250 03:08:33,830 --> 03:08:34,840 strength, anxiety and a myriad 4251 03:08:34,840 --> 03:08:35,185 of other challenges and so this 4252 03:08:35,185 --> 03:08:37,621 has been a real game changer 4253 03:08:37,621 --> 03:08:37,687 for us 4254 03:08:37,687 --> 03:08:39,687 . 4255 03:08:41,570 --> 03:08:43,457 At 7% but it impacts 500 4256 03:08:44,895 --> 03:08:45,128 students were 17 percent of our 4257 03:08:45,128 --> 03:08:47,128 lessons. 4258 03:08:48,699 --> 03:08:52,299 This allows us to not otherwise 4259 03:08:52,736 --> 03:08:52,803 be able to access services 4260 03:08:52,803 --> 03:08:53,403 . 4261 03:08:53,403 --> 03:08:54,371 We subsidize 50% of our 4262 03:08:54,371 --> 03:08:56,140 lessons. 4263 03:08:56,140 --> 03:09:00,340 It was able to serve so many 4264 03:09:01,812 --> 03:09:02,846 more people this is helping 4265 03:09:02,846 --> 03:09:06,446 students the MAY not access the 4266 03:09:06,450 --> 03:09:07,351 services anywhere else but with 4267 03:09:07,351 --> 03:09:11,540 the help of the county we can 4268 03:09:11,540 --> 03:09:11,721 provide that for them. 4269 03:09:11,721 --> 03:09:12,723 >> they are three examples 4270 03:09:12,723 --> 03:09:14,591 through the community partners 4271 03:09:14,591 --> 03:09:15,359 program. 4272 03:09:15,359 --> 03:09:16,560 Each of the 32 organization 4273 03:09:16,560 --> 03:09:18,560 brings something different 4274 03:09:20,264 --> 03:09:20,998 helping meet important needs 4275 03:09:20,998 --> 03:09:23,998 and serve residents across the 4276 03:09:24,701 --> 03:09:25,602 prince william county pick 4277 03:09:25,602 --> 03:09:28,200 together the partnerships help 4278 03:09:32,420 --> 03:09:33,420 make a lasting difference. 4279 03:09:33,420 --> 03:09:34,711 >> a big thank you to the 4280 03:09:34,711 --> 03:09:37,111 communications team does video 4281 03:09:37,114 --> 03:09:41,314 will live on the website and we 4282 03:09:43,530 --> 03:09:46,653 will continue to shout as loud 4283 03:09:46,790 --> 03:09:48,580 as we can pick how many of the 4284 03:09:48,580 --> 03:09:51,580 residents are being helped the 4285 03:09:52,162 --> 03:09:52,763 partnerships and the programs 4286 03:09:52,763 --> 03:09:54,763 and organizations being 4287 03:09:56,467 --> 03:09:57,501 supported. 4288 03:09:57,501 --> 03:09:58,902 Finally, I would like to remind 4289 03:09:58,902 --> 03:10:01,902 everyone we are having our 9/11 4290 03:10:02,500 --> 03:10:02,720 remembrance ceremony 4291 03:10:02,720 --> 03:10:04,720 . 4292 03:10:08,211 --> 03:10:09,112 This is the 20th anniversary 4293 03:10:09,112 --> 03:10:09,713 and actually, the 25th 4294 03:10:09,713 --> 03:10:12,113 anniversary for our ceremony 4295 03:10:15,619 --> 03:10:16,620 . 4296 03:10:16,620 --> 03:10:20,820 This is going to be a special 4297 03:10:22,493 --> 03:10:25,493 ceremony we are bringing a 4298 03:10:26,960 --> 03:10:28,999 number of families impacted and 4299 03:10:28,999 --> 03:10:29,733 we are holding our event 4300 03:10:29,733 --> 03:10:32,133 september 10 because many of 4301 03:10:34,538 --> 03:10:36,373 the families participating in 4302 03:10:36,373 --> 03:10:38,773 9/11 ceremonies at the pentagon 4303 03:10:39,743 --> 03:10:40,711 pick everyone is invited and we 4304 03:10:40,711 --> 03:10:43,711 will have osborne park high 4305 03:10:45,816 --> 03:10:46,617 school with this celebrating 4306 03:10:46,617 --> 03:10:49,617 for that event and we 4307 03:10:51,488 --> 03:10:53,657 appreciate the support and with 4308 03:10:53,657 --> 03:10:57,257 that, that is all fort meade. 4309 03:10:57,961 --> 03:10:59,797 >> thank you chris for the long 4310 03:10:59,797 --> 03:11:02,266 but needed update pick even 4311 03:11:02,266 --> 03:11:03,300 without it being AUGUST recess 4312 03:11:03,300 --> 03:11:07,500 you and your staff have done a 4313 03:11:08,380 --> 03:11:08,705 law so wanted to highlight that 4314 03:11:08,705 --> 03:11:09,807 we went back on different 4315 03:11:09,807 --> 03:11:11,807 requests for information 4316 03:11:12,609 --> 03:11:13,477 . 4317 03:11:13,477 --> 03:11:17,770 I wanted to thank you for 4318 03:11:19,349 --> 03:11:20,350 helping me get straight on the 4319 03:11:20,350 --> 03:11:23,350 different water studies we have 4320 03:11:23,987 --> 03:11:24,121 going on 4321 03:11:24,121 --> 03:11:25,880 . 4322 03:11:25,880 --> 03:11:25,989 That is been a public and 4323 03:11:25,989 --> 03:11:27,570 community concern and I don't 4324 03:11:27,570 --> 03:11:29,457 think everyone realizes how 4325 03:11:29,459 --> 03:11:31,161 much we have going on. 4326 03:11:31,161 --> 03:11:35,361 I wanted to commend you and the 4327 03:11:35,599 --> 03:11:36,990 team on the communities 4328 03:11:36,990 --> 03:11:37,100 partners program. 4329 03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:39,603 There's a lot of great partners 4330 03:11:39,603 --> 03:11:39,703 doing great work 4331 03:11:39,703 --> 03:11:40,671 . 4332 03:11:40,671 --> 03:11:43,671 There are some things the 4333 03:11:44,875 --> 03:11:45,876 community sometimes does better 4334 03:11:45,876 --> 03:11:46,510 and if we are able to help 4335 03:11:46,510 --> 03:11:49,510 empower them with resources it 4336 03:11:49,813 --> 03:11:50,848 helps us to better too. 4337 03:11:50,848 --> 03:11:53,784 Wanted to commend and highlight 4338 03:11:53,784 --> 03:11:55,784 the planning department. 4339 03:11:56,386 --> 03:11:58,786 Director washington, on the 4340 03:12:01,492 --> 03:12:02,426 work that you are doing but we 4341 03:12:02,426 --> 03:12:03,427 are responding to requests for 4342 03:12:03,427 --> 03:12:05,229 information we have been 4343 03:12:05,229 --> 03:12:08,229 fielding because it helps us 4344 03:12:08,632 --> 03:12:09,600 get more transparency but 4345 03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:11,600 helping the community 4346 03:12:13,337 --> 03:12:14,338 understand just all that is 4347 03:12:14,338 --> 03:12:16,240 going on in the great 4348 03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:16,940 transformational things 4349 03:12:16,940 --> 03:12:18,809 happening and so I wanted to 4350 03:12:18,809 --> 03:12:20,809 say that 4351 03:12:21,979 --> 03:12:23,979 . 4352 03:12:26,783 --> 03:12:27,651 As we continue to audit look at 4353 03:12:27,651 --> 03:12:30,510 directives and appreciate you 4354 03:12:31,822 --> 03:12:32,723 going through that audit. 4355 03:12:32,723 --> 03:12:33,390 There was a directive they gave 4356 03:12:33,390 --> 03:12:35,759 about the transfer development 4357 03:12:35,759 --> 03:12:35,826 rights program 4358 03:12:35,826 --> 03:12:37,826 . 4359 03:12:38,629 --> 03:12:42,829 I wanted to hear from you if 4360 03:12:43,432 --> 03:12:44,101 you had an update on that. 4361 03:12:44,101 --> 03:12:46,501 >> that directive I would 4362 03:12:49,973 --> 03:12:52,373 divide into two parts. 4363 03:12:53,143 --> 03:12:55,112 We have ongoing work marine 4364 03:12:55,112 --> 03:12:57,347 corps quantico base that 4365 03:12:57,347 --> 03:13:00,347 directive related and so the 4366 03:13:04,855 --> 03:13:05,789 program and our pdr program we 4367 03:13:05,789 --> 03:13:07,789 are providing ongoing 4368 03:13:07,991 --> 03:13:08,580 communication and navigation 4369 03:13:08,580 --> 03:13:10,580 . 4370 03:13:12,896 --> 03:13:14,731 That said, the board acted 4371 03:13:14,731 --> 03:13:18,331 JANUARY of this year to update 4372 03:13:20,370 --> 03:13:21,371 the ordinance pick with it 4373 03:13:21,371 --> 03:13:24,971 updated on an ongoing come of 4374 03:13:26,577 --> 03:13:27,144 that work is ongoing pick I 4375 03:13:27,144 --> 03:13:28,111 would say that part two is 4376 03:13:28,111 --> 03:13:30,447 related to the comprehensive 4377 03:13:30,447 --> 03:13:31,314 zoning ordinance and I would 4378 03:13:31,314 --> 03:13:32,216 ask planning to provide an 4379 03:13:32,216 --> 03:13:35,816 update on that part of the 4380 03:13:39,623 --> 03:13:40,624 directive. 4381 03:13:40,624 --> 03:13:42,624 >> tonya washington planning 4382 03:13:43,627 --> 03:13:46,627 director pick with regards to 4383 03:13:49,233 --> 03:13:49,867 that directive, as I shared 4384 03:13:49,867 --> 03:13:52,169 when we are here in JULY to 4385 03:13:52,169 --> 03:13:53,403 give an update on the zoning 4386 03:13:53,403 --> 03:13:53,670 ordinance update 4387 03:13:53,670 --> 03:13:55,670 , as part of 4388 03:13:56,974 --> 03:14:00,574 our approach will be looking at 4389 03:14:02,212 --> 03:14:03,213 the agriculture zones not in 4390 03:14:03,213 --> 03:14:06,783 the first batch but the second 4391 03:14:06,783 --> 03:14:07,484 batch and so we will be in 4392 03:14:07,484 --> 03:14:10,387 breeding and taking a look into 4393 03:14:10,387 --> 03:14:11,540 the pieces from the directives 4394 03:14:11,540 --> 03:14:13,557 that relate to that as part of 4395 03:14:13,557 --> 03:14:15,557 that effort. 4396 03:14:20,297 --> 03:14:21,298 In addition, we are partnering 4397 03:14:21,298 --> 03:14:21,932 in supporting the department of 4398 03:14:21,932 --> 03:14:24,134 public works as they are 4399 03:14:24,134 --> 03:14:26,336 working on a pdr program and 4400 03:14:26,336 --> 03:14:27,204 seeing what pieces that we 4401 03:14:27,204 --> 03:14:30,804 would need to support as well 4402 03:14:34,278 --> 03:14:35,278 as the agri-tourism study.The 4403 03:14:35,278 --> 03:14:35,979 department of economic 4404 03:14:35,979 --> 03:14:38,379 development and tourism are 4405 03:14:39,650 --> 03:14:39,783 working on now 4406 03:14:39,783 --> 03:14:40,918 . 4407 03:14:40,918 --> 03:14:41,852 There is a portion that relates 4408 03:14:41,852 --> 03:14:44,852 to the agriculture and orcs 4409 03:14:45,956 --> 03:14:46,657 overlay district and their 4410 03:14:46,657 --> 03:14:49,570 consultants and our consultants 4411 03:14:49,560 --> 03:14:50,227 had been in communications so 4412 03:14:50,227 --> 03:14:53,227 they would be handed off. 4413 03:14:56,733 --> 03:14:57,468 It is and we are looking 4414 03:14:57,468 --> 03:14:59,360 forward to being able to focus 4415 03:14:59,360 --> 03:15:01,360 on the 4416 03:15:03,640 --> 03:15:05,640 . 4417 03:15:09,313 --> 03:15:11,313 >> the transfer development 4418 03:15:18,489 --> 03:15:20,524 rights program done to make it 4419 03:15:20,524 --> 03:15:21,558 on enhancement for today and we 4420 03:15:21,558 --> 03:15:25,158 will be appointing folks on the 4421 03:15:33,537 --> 03:15:34,538 committee. 4422 03:15:34,538 --> 03:15:36,840 And then supervisor give his 4423 03:15:36,840 --> 03:15:37,508 directive on it last OCTOBER 4424 03:15:37,508 --> 03:15:39,420 doing this interest in both 4425 03:15:39,420 --> 03:15:41,110 programs 4426 03:15:41,110 --> 03:15:43,110 . 4427 03:15:44,848 --> 03:15:45,549 Knowing that all of us have 4428 03:15:45,549 --> 03:15:48,549 places that could absorb the 4429 03:15:48,919 --> 03:15:49,586 growth that needs to be done on 4430 03:15:49,586 --> 03:15:50,621 so that is more what I was 4431 03:15:50,621 --> 03:15:52,621 looking at 4432 03:15:56,590 --> 03:15:57,940 . 4433 03:15:57,940 --> 03:16:00,940 >> anyone else has anything for 4434 03:16:00,764 --> 03:16:02,764 the county executive? 4435 03:16:04,668 --> 03:16:07,400 When you are finished? 4436 03:16:07,400 --> 03:16:10,604 >> if you could talk about the 4437 03:16:11,800 --> 03:16:11,842 groundwater studies we talked 4438 03:16:11,842 --> 03:16:12,976 about the presentation on the 4439 03:16:12,976 --> 03:16:14,976 land-use 4440 03:16:18,810 --> 03:16:18,749 . 4441 03:16:18,749 --> 03:16:22,949 I sent an update to the board 4442 03:16:23,787 --> 03:16:24,588 on the groundwater study 4443 03:16:24,588 --> 03:16:27,588 connected to a directive from 4444 03:16:28,559 --> 03:16:28,659 2024 4445 03:16:28,659 --> 03:16:29,526 . 4446 03:16:29,526 --> 03:16:32,526 We are working with us 4447 03:16:33,797 --> 03:16:33,897 geological survey 4448 03:16:33,897 --> 03:16:34,865 . 4449 03:16:34,865 --> 03:16:37,865 They provide a six-month and 4450 03:16:41,605 --> 03:16:41,738 annual presentations 4451 03:16:41,738 --> 03:16:42,439 . 4452 03:16:42,439 --> 03:16:43,407 I am happy to have public 4453 03:16:43,407 --> 03:16:45,809 works, but if there specific 4454 03:16:45,809 --> 03:16:49,409 questions about it, but we are 4455 03:16:50,414 --> 03:16:51,114 on our way in the partnership 4456 03:16:51,114 --> 03:16:54,170 the work of the study is on 4457 03:16:54,170 --> 03:16:56,170 track. 4458 03:16:59,220 --> 03:17:02,220 Fall of 2028 we expect the 4459 03:17:02,459 --> 03:17:04,228 final product. 4460 03:17:04,228 --> 03:17:06,228 >> follower APRIL. 4461 03:17:07,598 --> 03:17:08,999 >> I believe it is fall but we 4462 03:17:08,999 --> 03:17:12,703 can follow up based on what we 4463 03:17:12,703 --> 03:17:13,704 sent in the memo. 4464 03:17:13,704 --> 03:17:15,239 >> Chair Deshundra: we are 4465 03:17:15,239 --> 03:17:17,341 going to agenda item tendinitis 4466 03:17:17,341 --> 03:17:19,341 county attorney time. 4467 03:17:22,146 --> 03:17:22,913 The floor is yours. 4468 03:17:22,913 --> 03:17:23,714 >> this afternoon in session we 4469 03:17:23,714 --> 03:17:26,114 will have consultation with 4470 03:17:27,751 --> 03:17:28,685 legal counsel and briefings by 4471 03:17:28,685 --> 03:17:29,419 staff members regarding legal 4472 03:17:29,419 --> 03:17:31,819 matters requiring the provision 4473 03:17:32,156 --> 03:17:33,230 of legal advice by such counsel 4474 03:17:33,230 --> 03:17:33,924 pertaining to energy regulatory 4475 03:17:33,924 --> 03:17:36,324 lawn proceedings over the 4476 03:17:36,894 --> 03:17:37,861 commission for such 4477 03:17:37,861 --> 03:17:39,329 consultation discussion or 4478 03:17:39,329 --> 03:17:40,230 improving an open meeting would 4479 03:17:40,230 --> 03:17:42,630 affect the bargaining position 4480 03:17:44,670 --> 03:17:44,768 in negotiating strategy 4481 03:17:44,768 --> 03:17:45,569 litigating posture the public 4482 03:17:45,569 --> 03:17:48,569 body in this item is 4483 03:17:48,739 --> 03:17:49,540 appropriate for close session 4484 03:17:49,540 --> 03:17:53,140 pursuant to do.2-37 1188 of the 4485 03:17:54,812 --> 03:17:54,912 code of virginia 4486 03:17:54,912 --> 03:17:55,879 . 4487 03:17:55,879 --> 03:17:58,279 >> Chair Deshundra: let's go 4488 03:17:59,160 --> 03:18:02,160 ahead and take our votes 4489 03:18:05,389 --> 03:18:07,389 . 4490 03:18:11,128 --> 03:18:11,829 >> vote unanimous. 4491 03:18:11,829 --> 03:18:12,129 We are moving to agenda item 4492 03:18:12,129 --> 03:18:14,129 11. 4493 03:18:16,266 --> 03:18:18,266 MR. Shorter? 4494 03:18:23,607 --> 03:18:24,341 >> I got a text note from the 4495 03:18:24,341 --> 03:18:25,800 team. 4496 03:18:25,800 --> 03:18:25,642 You are correct, it is APRIL 28 4497 03:18:25,642 --> 03:18:27,440 consistent with the memo sent 4498 03:18:27,440 --> 03:18:29,440 out. 4499 03:18:34,117 --> 03:18:35,180 Item 11 a for quantico memorial 4500 03:18:35,180 --> 03:18:35,953 chapter and I will turn it to 4501 03:18:35,953 --> 03:18:38,953 the office aplenty for the 4502 03:18:39,890 --> 03:18:41,890 presentation. 4503 03:18:44,194 --> 03:18:44,294 >> thank you 4504 03:18:44,294 --> 03:18:46,294 . 4505 03:18:47,164 --> 03:18:47,297 My name is eric 4506 03:18:47,297 --> 03:18:48,265 . 4507 03:18:48,265 --> 03:18:50,665 Bringing you today the 4508 03:18:51,401 --> 03:18:53,801 initiation for consideration of 4509 03:18:54,705 --> 03:18:55,405 a cpa 2025 002 quantico 4510 03:18:55,405 --> 03:18:57,405 memorial chapel 4511 03:19:39,650 --> 03:19:41,650 . 4512 03:19:45,355 --> 03:19:46,356 Let's try this again. 4513 03:19:46,356 --> 03:19:47,570 This is a request to amend the 4514 03:19:47,570 --> 03:19:49,570 comprehensive plan long-range 4515 03:19:54,364 --> 03:19:55,299 land-use of 4.23 acres of parks 4516 03:19:55,299 --> 03:19:57,968 and open space to hamlet 4517 03:19:57,968 --> 03:19:58,602 mixed-use. 4518 03:19:58,602 --> 03:19:59,470 For the development of the 4519 03:19:59,470 --> 03:20:00,304 funeral home and the site is 4520 03:20:00,304 --> 03:20:03,707 chosen because it is a crossed 4521 03:20:03,707 --> 03:20:06,707 the joplin road from quantico 4522 03:20:07,611 --> 03:20:08,712 national cemetery. 4523 03:20:08,712 --> 03:20:11,112 Staff recommends initiation of 4524 03:20:12,983 --> 03:20:14,983 this cpa. 4525 03:20:16,153 --> 03:20:18,188 If this project looks familiar 4526 03:20:18,188 --> 03:20:19,156 it is because it is not a new 4527 03:20:19,156 --> 03:20:21,156 project 4528 03:20:22,726 --> 03:20:23,727 . 4529 03:20:23,727 --> 03:20:25,863 We were before you in OCTOBER 4530 03:20:25,863 --> 03:20:26,930 2024 to initiate the smaller 4531 03:20:26,930 --> 03:20:28,866 area for the same consideration 4532 03:20:28,866 --> 03:20:30,866 . 4533 03:20:31,201 --> 03:20:31,768 But two different land-use. 4534 03:20:31,768 --> 03:20:34,768 So why are we back. 4535 03:20:38,709 --> 03:20:39,643 The 4536 03:20:39,643 --> 03:20:42,430 supervisor had several concerns 4537 03:20:44,615 --> 03:20:45,616 about this being a little bit 4538 03:20:45,616 --> 03:20:48,616 too upscale for this particular 4539 03:20:50,654 --> 03:20:51,688 area. 4540 03:20:51,688 --> 03:20:53,757 What is being proposed about 4541 03:20:53,757 --> 03:20:56,757 the rezoning was office low 4542 03:21:01,431 --> 03:21:02,466 rise. 4543 03:21:02,466 --> 03:21:04,866 There are other possible 4544 03:21:07,504 --> 03:21:09,904 considerations that would allow 4545 03:21:13,243 --> 03:21:17,443 for a funeral home by right not 4546 03:21:18,515 --> 03:21:19,516 an as intense and encourage the 4547 03:21:19,516 --> 03:21:20,150 requester to look into the 4548 03:21:20,150 --> 03:21:22,550 considerations on that is 4549 03:21:22,653 --> 03:21:25,653 exactly what the requester did 4550 03:21:26,323 --> 03:21:27,900 . 4551 03:21:27,900 --> 03:21:30,900 The eventually settled on the 4552 03:21:30,561 --> 03:21:32,961 b3 convenience retail district 4553 03:21:37,434 --> 03:21:37,568 better fit for rural areas 4554 03:21:37,568 --> 03:21:38,535 . 4555 03:21:38,535 --> 03:21:42,135 In doing so, that district is 4556 03:21:43,841 --> 03:21:46,241 not compatible vote was 4557 03:21:49,413 --> 03:21:50,581 initiated and so they rethought 4558 03:21:50,581 --> 03:21:51,248 , they are rethinking on the 4559 03:21:51,248 --> 03:21:52,449 thought process to find a 4560 03:21:52,449 --> 03:21:54,449 compatible land-use 4561 03:21:54,518 --> 03:21:56,518 . 4562 03:21:56,820 --> 03:21:59,556 They found his hamlet mixed-use 4563 03:21:59,556 --> 03:22:03,156 and in many respects is a 4564 03:22:04,528 --> 03:22:08,128 better fit back the other thing 4565 03:22:08,599 --> 03:22:08,732 they did was they added land 4566 03:22:08,732 --> 03:22:09,733 . 4567 03:22:09,733 --> 03:22:12,733 During the review of the 4568 03:22:14,304 --> 03:22:15,272 initial applications they were 4569 03:22:15,272 --> 03:22:17,441 buffer management issues and we 4570 03:22:17,441 --> 03:22:20,441 encourage them to expand the 4571 03:22:24,214 --> 03:22:24,347 site to address those issues 4572 03:22:24,347 --> 03:22:25,150 . 4573 03:22:25,150 --> 03:22:28,150 They added some acreage and 4574 03:22:29,586 --> 03:22:29,753 change 4575 03:22:29,753 --> 03:22:30,721 . 4576 03:22:30,721 --> 03:22:34,321 That is help with the buffer 4577 03:22:34,858 --> 03:22:35,558 issues but it is those two 4578 03:22:35,558 --> 03:22:37,958 considerations that require us 4579 03:22:38,495 --> 03:22:42,950 to come back to you to 4580 03:22:42,432 --> 03:22:43,567 reinitiate this cpa. 4581 03:22:43,567 --> 03:22:46,567 Talking about the rezoning, the 4582 03:22:50,400 --> 03:22:52,209 area are largely zone today 4583 03:22:52,209 --> 03:22:54,209 . 4584 03:22:57,815 --> 03:23:00,450 The proposed zoning with a 4585 03:23:00,450 --> 03:23:02,186 retail. 4586 03:23:02,186 --> 03:23:04,186 Again 4587 03:23:05,455 --> 03:23:06,290 , most of the land use is 4588 03:23:06,290 --> 03:23:09,890 parks and open space and that 4589 03:23:14,310 --> 03:23:14,965 is largely because of the 4590 03:23:14,965 --> 03:23:15,265 location of prince william 4591 03:23:15,265 --> 03:23:16,200 forest park. 4592 03:23:16,200 --> 03:23:19,200 We have a county registered 4593 03:23:19,369 --> 03:23:22,272 historic site that the park 4594 03:23:22,272 --> 03:23:22,840 required lattice to the east of 4595 03:23:22,840 --> 03:23:24,840 the site 4596 03:23:28,450 --> 03:23:30,450 . 4597 03:23:30,147 --> 03:23:33,747 And discussing but park it is 4598 03:23:38,822 --> 03:23:41,222 important understand the park 4599 03:23:43,994 --> 03:23:44,728 was formed in 1948 the congress 4600 03:23:44,728 --> 03:23:47,128 authorized the boundary as 4601 03:23:53,537 --> 03:23:54,571 possible areas the park service 4602 03:23:54,571 --> 03:23:58,171 has not been supportive of the 4603 03:23:59,176 --> 03:23:59,910 project from beginning with 4604 03:23:59,910 --> 03:24:00,744 concerns about the 4605 03:24:00,744 --> 03:24:03,144 environmental impacts but the 4606 03:24:06,150 --> 03:24:08,150 cost. 4607 03:24:12,723 --> 03:24:13,690 Was it virginia senior by way 4608 03:24:13,690 --> 03:24:17,290 it is been designated that as 4609 03:24:18,228 --> 03:24:20,228 well. 4610 03:24:20,430 --> 03:24:23,430 He submitted last week almonds 4611 03:24:23,901 --> 03:24:26,901 regarding this objecting it for 4612 03:24:30,741 --> 03:24:31,308 those reasons and also 4613 03:24:31,308 --> 03:24:31,942 basically stay with the 4614 03:24:31,942 --> 03:24:34,342 statement that they don't 4615 03:24:39,917 --> 03:24:40,651 believe the land-use would 4616 03:24:40,651 --> 03:24:43,453 serve the residents of the area 4617 03:24:43,453 --> 03:24:45,853 land concerns about potential 4618 03:24:48,192 --> 03:24:50,592 impacts that would have 4619 03:24:50,593 --> 03:24:51,228 changing the nature of the area 4620 03:24:51,228 --> 03:24:53,228 . 4621 03:24:58,569 --> 03:24:58,735 As far as one thing to note 4622 03:24:58,735 --> 03:24:59,703 . 4623 03:24:59,703 --> 03:25:02,703 When thinking about how the 4624 03:25:02,806 --> 03:25:05,206 proposed development will be 4625 03:25:06,510 --> 03:25:08,645 compatible with the area, the 4626 03:25:08,645 --> 03:25:10,645 national cemetery. 4627 03:25:12,349 --> 03:25:14,585 That is a neighboring resource. 4628 03:25:14,585 --> 03:25:18,785 That is one of the things would 4629 03:25:23,494 --> 03:25:25,494 benefit as well. 4630 03:25:29,133 --> 03:25:29,866 Was is also in the marine corps 4631 03:25:29,866 --> 03:25:32,266 quantico special planning area. 4632 03:25:43,747 --> 03:25:46,747 And that special planning areas 4633 03:25:50,787 --> 03:25:51,455 we met with the marine base 4634 03:25:51,455 --> 03:25:52,322 pick me share some of the 4635 03:25:52,322 --> 03:25:54,322 concerns on environmental 4636 03:25:56,160 --> 03:25:57,940 impacts in the area but they 4637 03:25:57,940 --> 03:25:57,995 are not concerned about what 4638 03:25:57,995 --> 03:26:01,595 the impacts would be on their 4639 03:26:05,235 --> 03:26:05,936 operation. 4640 03:26:05,936 --> 03:26:06,903 Mentioned before when we want 4641 03:26:06,903 --> 03:26:11,103 to look at this in terms of 4642 03:26:11,608 --> 03:26:12,420 where we are now 4643 03:26:12,420 --> 03:26:12,943 , what was 4644 03:26:12,943 --> 03:26:13,844 proposed in 2024 what is being 4645 03:26:13,844 --> 03:26:17,444 proposed now, this is a good 4646 03:26:19,383 --> 03:26:20,500 graphic that shows we are 4647 03:26:20,500 --> 03:26:21,180 trying to get into a better 4648 03:26:21,180 --> 03:26:24,421 place in terms of what is being 4649 03:26:24,421 --> 03:26:25,455 proposed in the land-use 4650 03:26:25,455 --> 03:26:27,570 supervisor had legitimate 4651 03:26:27,570 --> 03:26:29,570 concerns. 4652 03:26:30,861 --> 03:26:32,596 It's more of a suburban 4653 03:26:32,596 --> 03:26:36,330 capacity and you can see this 4654 03:26:36,330 --> 03:26:36,133 from the plans 4655 03:26:36,133 --> 03:26:38,133 . 4656 03:26:39,736 --> 03:26:40,370 And that t1 be is better fit 4657 03:26:40,370 --> 03:26:44,570 for rural area and you can see 4658 03:26:46,343 --> 03:26:49,913 that from the numbers and as 4659 03:26:49,913 --> 03:26:50,581 well as job areas. 4660 03:26:50,581 --> 03:26:53,581 The funeral homes will not 4661 03:26:54,184 --> 03:26:57,184 employ a lot of people. 4662 03:26:57,654 --> 03:26:57,921 You will not be an employment 4663 03:26:57,921 --> 03:26:59,921 resource. 4664 03:27:02,392 --> 03:27:04,792 Stop does recommend board 4665 03:27:06,630 --> 03:27:09,300 approve initiations that they 4666 03:27:11,368 --> 03:27:11,969 would provide opportunities to 4667 03:27:11,969 --> 03:27:13,504 support quantico national 4668 03:27:13,504 --> 03:27:15,904 cemetery that the proposed 4669 03:27:18,242 --> 03:27:18,909 hamlet mixed uses are more 4670 03:27:18,909 --> 03:27:19,776 compatible with the proposed 4671 03:27:19,776 --> 03:27:21,776 convenient retail zoning 4672 03:27:24,615 --> 03:27:24,848 designation 4673 03:27:24,848 --> 03:27:25,449 . 4674 03:27:25,449 --> 03:27:26,316 Amount proposed hamlet 4675 03:27:26,316 --> 03:27:28,716 mixed-use is more compatible 4676 03:27:30,454 --> 03:27:31,488 with the context of the area 4677 03:27:31,488 --> 03:27:32,156 than the office mixed-use and 4678 03:27:32,156 --> 03:27:34,725 that is what I have for you so 4679 03:27:34,725 --> 03:27:34,892 I will open it up for questions 4680 03:27:34,892 --> 03:27:35,959 now. 4681 03:27:35,959 --> 03:27:37,959 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 4682 03:27:39,229 --> 03:27:41,229 bailey? 4683 03:27:41,899 --> 03:27:44,899 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for 4684 03:27:47,204 --> 03:27:47,337 your presentation 4685 03:27:47,337 --> 03:27:48,305 . 4686 03:27:48,305 --> 03:27:48,972 I want to highlight the 4687 03:27:48,972 --> 03:27:50,972 positive. 4688 03:27:52,209 --> 03:27:53,210 Supervisor and I, GOD rest his 4689 03:27:53,210 --> 03:27:55,210 soul commit interesting 4690 03:27:59,216 --> 03:28:00,217 conversations. 4691 03:28:00,217 --> 03:28:01,218 Not a lot of cocktails but 4692 03:28:01,218 --> 03:28:04,218 conversations and one thing I 4693 03:28:04,588 --> 03:28:05,556 enjoy about working with the 4694 03:28:05,556 --> 03:28:06,290 supervisor's we could agree to 4695 03:28:06,290 --> 03:28:08,926 disagree and then we would come 4696 03:28:08,926 --> 03:28:11,728 to the middle of the road and 4697 03:28:11,728 --> 03:28:12,629 so I say that because I did 4698 03:28:12,629 --> 03:28:14,965 enjoy working with them but I 4699 03:28:14,965 --> 03:28:18,565 also said what you said about 4700 03:28:19,970 --> 03:28:20,537 this being complementary to the 4701 03:28:20,537 --> 03:28:23,537 quantico base and not only 4702 03:28:24,808 --> 03:28:25,509 that, it is needed on the 4703 03:28:25,509 --> 03:28:26,510 eastern corridor because we 4704 03:28:26,510 --> 03:28:28,278 don't have a lot of services as 4705 03:28:28,278 --> 03:28:30,214 a relates to veterans and 4706 03:28:30,214 --> 03:28:30,280 civilians 4707 03:28:30,280 --> 03:28:32,280 . 4708 03:28:37,321 --> 03:28:38,322 A combination of both did have 4709 03:28:38,322 --> 03:28:39,623 a conversation with the park 4710 03:28:39,623 --> 03:28:42,559 and it was an amicable 4711 03:28:42,559 --> 03:28:46,159 conversation as well so you are 4712 03:28:49,333 --> 03:28:50,366 speaking truth. 4713 03:28:50,366 --> 03:28:53,804 This project is needed as it 4714 03:28:53,804 --> 03:28:54,505 extends to the marine corps 4715 03:28:54,505 --> 03:28:57,808 cemetery, which is part of the 4716 03:28:57,808 --> 03:28:57,941 plan 4717 03:28:57,941 --> 03:28:58,642 . 4718 03:28:58,642 --> 03:29:02,242 You neglected to say that but 4719 03:29:03,447 --> 03:29:04,481 it is a part of that. 4720 03:29:04,481 --> 03:29:04,982 And the re-initiation, the 4721 03:29:04,982 --> 03:29:07,382 changes are due to 4722 03:29:07,918 --> 03:29:07,985 transportation as well 4723 03:29:07,985 --> 03:29:09,985 . 4724 03:29:10,287 --> 03:29:13,887 There's a highlight we had a 4725 03:29:14,625 --> 03:29:14,691 discussion about that as well 4726 03:29:14,691 --> 03:29:16,691 . 4727 03:29:18,462 --> 03:29:19,496 I wanted to bring that forward. 4728 03:29:19,496 --> 03:29:23,267 And has been a long time but I 4729 03:29:23,267 --> 03:29:26,867 am going to support it because 4730 03:29:27,204 --> 03:29:27,838 it is needed. 4731 03:29:27,838 --> 03:29:30,838 It's needed for the community 4732 03:29:34,378 --> 03:29:35,245 in the county to have 4733 03:29:35,245 --> 03:29:37,114 additional access when people 4734 03:29:37,114 --> 03:29:37,181 lose their loved ones 4735 03:29:37,181 --> 03:29:39,181 . 4736 03:29:39,683 --> 03:29:41,451 I appreciate how you presented 4737 03:29:41,451 --> 03:29:42,219 it. 4738 03:29:42,219 --> 03:29:44,955 It is needed and I said that in 4739 03:29:44,955 --> 03:29:48,555 the beginning that is all I 4740 03:29:51,280 --> 03:29:51,161 have 4741 03:29:51,161 --> 03:29:52,950 . 4742 03:29:52,950 --> 03:29:52,563 I don't have any questions. 4743 03:29:52,563 --> 03:29:55,299 It is in my district. 4744 03:29:55,299 --> 03:29:59,499 I will be supporting it and I 4745 03:30:05,800 --> 03:30:06,430 welcome any comments. 4746 03:30:06,430 --> 03:30:07,244 >> from a transportation 4747 03:30:07,244 --> 03:30:09,244 perspective 4748 03:30:09,813 --> 03:30:09,880 , I been down 4749 03:30:09,880 --> 03:30:11,880 . 4750 03:30:13,350 --> 03:30:16,520 i travel quite a bit to get to 4751 03:30:16,520 --> 03:30:19,520 95 and I've gotten behind a 4752 03:30:19,656 --> 03:30:21,992 funeral procession pick if 4753 03:30:21,992 --> 03:30:24,992 you've driven down joplin road 4754 03:30:26,930 --> 03:30:30,530 you understand it is narrow and 4755 03:30:31,602 --> 03:30:32,269 curvy hilly road to. 4756 03:30:32,269 --> 03:30:35,269 There's no passing, there are 4757 03:30:37,407 --> 03:30:38,108 no shoulders and if you get a 4758 03:30:38,108 --> 03:30:40,577 good wind storm you will find a 4759 03:30:40,577 --> 03:30:43,380 couple of trees down across the 4760 03:30:43,380 --> 03:30:45,380 road. 4761 03:30:51,121 --> 03:30:52,550 Looking at this is a relates to 4762 03:30:52,550 --> 03:30:54,958 funerals, one of the positive 4763 03:30:54,958 --> 03:30:57,958 benefits of having this located 4764 03:30:58,395 --> 03:30:59,229 next to the cemetery rather 4765 03:30:59,229 --> 03:31:00,297 than having the funeral 4766 03:31:00,297 --> 03:31:03,297 processions come from the other 4767 03:31:08,639 --> 03:31:10,774 points into the cemetery. 4768 03:31:10,774 --> 03:31:10,974 >> one of the benefits 4769 03:31:10,974 --> 03:31:12,974 , I don't 4770 03:31:15,780 --> 03:31:15,879 have a good graphic to show you 4771 03:31:15,879 --> 03:31:19,479 but it will have a direct 4772 03:31:19,817 --> 03:31:20,150 access from the site into the 4773 03:31:20,150 --> 03:31:22,150 cemetery. 4774 03:31:24,154 --> 03:31:25,155 That would alleviate those 4775 03:31:25,155 --> 03:31:27,555 traffic procession issues you 4776 03:31:28,392 --> 03:31:30,392 talk about 4777 03:31:30,661 --> 03:31:31,428 . 4778 03:31:31,428 --> 03:31:35,280 And the going to butte funerals 4779 03:31:40,637 --> 03:31:40,971 to other locations? 4780 03:31:40,971 --> 03:31:42,500 Sure. 4781 03:31:42,500 --> 03:31:42,973 As part of the rezoning there 4782 03:31:42,973 --> 03:31:43,974 are ongoing considerations in 4783 03:31:43,974 --> 03:31:45,742 working with the transportation 4784 03:31:45,742 --> 03:31:48,110 department with the applicant 4785 03:31:48,110 --> 03:31:51,611 team and making sure the access 4786 03:31:53,500 --> 03:31:56,650 issues will be sorted out to 4787 03:32:03,393 --> 03:32:05,429 mitigate any potential impacts. 4788 03:32:05,429 --> 03:32:09,290 We are encouraged by what she 4789 03:32:09,732 --> 03:32:12,903 was seeing and listening to the 4790 03:32:12,903 --> 03:32:13,570 counties concerns and 4791 03:32:13,570 --> 03:32:14,872 addressing the consistent 4792 03:32:14,872 --> 03:32:17,872 moving in the right direction 4793 03:32:21,111 --> 03:32:22,112 . 4794 03:32:22,112 --> 03:32:24,512 >> most of the transportation 4795 03:32:25,582 --> 03:32:25,749 impacts are going to be handled 4796 03:32:25,749 --> 03:32:27,749 . 4797 03:32:29,419 --> 03:32:30,454 We have already gone out there 4798 03:32:30,454 --> 03:32:33,454 to walk the corridor work 4799 03:32:35,659 --> 03:32:36,693 taking inventory. 4800 03:32:36,693 --> 03:32:39,662 line of sight distance and ways 4801 03:32:39,662 --> 03:32:40,364 to improve the intersection 4802 03:32:40,364 --> 03:32:41,999 pick especially with more 4803 03:32:41,999 --> 03:32:44,301 traffic pick people making a 4804 03:32:44,301 --> 03:32:47,871 left turn out of there it is 4805 03:32:47,871 --> 03:32:48,872 safe with them. 4806 03:32:48,872 --> 03:32:51,272 There might be right-of-way 4807 03:32:53,310 --> 03:32:53,977 constraints we work through. 4808 03:32:53,977 --> 03:32:54,812 Live commented the same and 4809 03:32:54,812 --> 03:32:56,130 there is suggesting doing 4810 03:32:56,130 --> 03:32:56,213 something like a traffic circle 4811 03:32:56,213 --> 03:32:58,213 . 4812 03:32:58,582 --> 03:33:01,385 I don't want to set any 4813 03:33:01,385 --> 03:33:03,385 unrealistic expectations, but 4814 03:33:05,355 --> 03:33:06,256 that comment was made but we 4815 03:33:06,256 --> 03:33:06,523 are proactively working through 4816 03:33:06,523 --> 03:33:08,523 all that 4817 03:33:15,699 --> 03:33:16,667 with the applicant. 4818 03:33:16,667 --> 03:33:19,667 >> I think this benefit but 4819 03:33:20,771 --> 03:33:21,104 given its location and that is 4820 03:33:21,104 --> 03:33:21,972 a curvy area. 4821 03:33:21,972 --> 03:33:23,240 I look forward to seeing what 4822 03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:25,640 the transportation solution is 4823 03:33:30,848 --> 03:33:31,982 . 4824 03:33:31,982 --> 03:33:33,500 >> Chair Deshundra: did anyone 4825 03:33:33,500 --> 03:33:35,450 else have any questions 4826 03:33:36,886 --> 03:33:37,421 ? 4827 03:33:37,421 --> 03:33:37,988 Thank you so much. 4828 03:33:37,988 --> 03:33:38,889 I would like to go ahead. 4829 03:33:38,889 --> 03:33:42,489 Would you like to move this 4830 03:33:45,996 --> 03:33:47,970 forward? 4831 03:33:47,970 --> 03:33:48,599 >> Chair Deshundra: I wondered 4832 03:33:48,599 --> 03:33:49,600 if the second had anything to 4833 03:33:49,600 --> 03:33:51,602 do with the traffic circle big 4834 03:33:51,602 --> 03:33:52,690 supervisor trying to 4835 03:33:52,690 --> 03:33:52,803 . 4836 03:33:52,803 --> 03:33:55,803 >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I 4837 03:33:58,308 --> 03:33:59,209 wanted to thank staff doing 4838 03:33:59,209 --> 03:34:00,210 more work on this become a 4839 03:34:00,210 --> 03:34:02,450 highlight and reinforcement 4840 03:34:02,450 --> 03:34:02,913 supervisor bailey was saying 4841 03:34:02,913 --> 03:34:04,381 big supervisor weir, GOD rest 4842 03:34:04,381 --> 03:34:04,448 his soul 4843 03:34:04,448 --> 03:34:06,448 . 4844 03:34:08,252 --> 03:34:10,354 I want to highlight how we do 4845 03:34:10,354 --> 03:34:13,857 with the new comp plan of 4846 03:34:13,857 --> 03:34:14,725 nuanced than fit an area like 4847 03:34:14,725 --> 03:34:16,725 this 4848 03:34:18,495 --> 03:34:19,196 . 4849 03:34:19,196 --> 03:34:23,100 Wanted to say as we continue to 4850 03:34:23,100 --> 03:34:24,100 have conversations not only on 4851 03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:25,502 this project but folks that 4852 03:34:25,502 --> 03:34:28,137 come in and request things we 4853 03:34:28,137 --> 03:34:29,106 work with you all to get sharp 4854 03:34:29,106 --> 03:34:33,306 when it comes to the right lung 4855 03:34:35,145 --> 03:34:36,146 range land-use designations 4856 03:34:36,146 --> 03:34:36,780 pick analysis and all the other 4857 03:34:36,780 --> 03:34:37,581 reviewing agencies and the 4858 03:34:37,581 --> 03:34:40,450 public perception about what we 4859 03:34:40,450 --> 03:34:42,850 are doing to develop. 4860 03:34:43,220 --> 03:34:43,353 I will be supporting this 4861 03:34:43,353 --> 03:34:44,521 . 4862 03:34:44,521 --> 03:34:46,521 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 4863 03:34:47,124 --> 03:34:48,158 bailey? 4864 03:34:48,158 --> 03:34:49,960 >> Andrea Bailey: I want to 4865 03:34:49,960 --> 03:34:50,460 acknowledge they client sitting 4866 03:34:50,460 --> 03:34:52,460 to the back. 4867 03:34:53,797 --> 03:34:56,333 Thank you for your cooperation 4868 03:34:56,333 --> 03:34:56,933 working through the hard stuff. 4869 03:34:56,933 --> 03:34:59,837 The small business is a 4870 03:34:59,837 --> 03:35:01,538 resident for a long time until 4871 03:35:01,538 --> 03:35:03,941 been watching the needs and how 4872 03:35:03,941 --> 03:35:06,910 do we partner to make things 4873 03:35:06,910 --> 03:35:09,310 happen we respect and 4874 03:35:09,346 --> 03:35:11,415 appreciate that to the planning 4875 03:35:11,415 --> 03:35:13,415 department. 4876 03:35:14,451 --> 03:35:14,585 You all rock 4877 03:35:14,585 --> 03:35:15,285 . 4878 03:35:15,285 --> 03:35:18,789 It's good to see you in sitting 4879 03:35:18,789 --> 03:35:18,922 at the end of the home 4880 03:35:18,922 --> 03:35:19,923 . 4881 03:35:19,923 --> 03:35:21,240 You identified if there were 4882 03:35:21,240 --> 03:35:21,325 burial opportunities we need to 4883 03:35:21,325 --> 03:35:21,391 acknowledge 4884 03:35:21,391 --> 03:35:23,391 . 4885 03:35:23,627 --> 03:35:25,627 That is important. 4886 03:35:26,290 --> 03:35:29,290 Not just the traveling circle 4887 03:35:33,504 --> 03:35:35,504 . 4888 03:35:37,207 --> 03:35:37,641 Not just military history but 4889 03:35:37,641 --> 03:35:38,408 family history. 4890 03:35:38,408 --> 03:35:40,408 Hank you to 4891 03:35:44,214 --> 03:35:44,848 the planning department for all 4892 03:35:44,848 --> 03:35:45,682 the work you've done. 4893 03:35:45,682 --> 03:35:46,550 It's been almost 5 years. 4894 03:35:46,550 --> 03:35:48,950 Thank you so much. 4895 03:35:51,488 --> 03:35:52,456 >> alright thank you very much. 4896 03:35:52,456 --> 03:35:54,791 Let's go ahead, since there is 4897 03:35:54,791 --> 03:35:58,991 no one else here to take a 4898 03:36:06,470 --> 03:36:07,471 vote. 4899 03:36:07,471 --> 03:36:09,471 >> vote is unanimous. 4900 03:36:14,244 --> 03:36:14,878 >> thank you. 4901 03:36:14,878 --> 03:36:17,614 >> thank you, MADAM Chair. With 4902 03:36:17,614 --> 03:36:20,614 item 11 b zoning map amendment 4903 03:36:23,420 --> 03:36:23,921 turning it over to planning. 4904 03:36:23,921 --> 03:36:25,856 >> that afternoon. 4905 03:36:25,856 --> 03:36:26,356 Tonya washington, planning 4906 03:36:26,356 --> 03:36:28,356 director. 4907 03:36:31,395 --> 03:36:32,129 She could not make it here. 4908 03:36:32,129 --> 03:36:32,996 David will be here to provide 4909 03:36:32,996 --> 03:36:35,996 the presentation on the request 4910 03:36:37,501 --> 03:36:37,901 to initiate zoning map ing map 4911 03:36:37,901 --> 03:36:39,901 amendment 2027 b 4912 03:36:43,373 --> 03:36:43,640 ndment 2027 b 4913 03:36:43,640 --> 03:36:45,640 0001. 4914 03:36:45,876 --> 03:36:46,310 > thank you MS. 4915 03:36:46,310 --> 03:36:48,310 Washington. 4916 03:36:49,847 --> 03:36:50,414 David from the planning office. 4917 03:36:50,414 --> 03:36:52,115 Members of the board. 4918 03:36:52,115 --> 03:36:53,617 Glad to present to you on this 4919 03:36:53,617 --> 03:36:55,617 zoning map amendment. 4920 03:36:58,188 --> 03:36:59,156 This is a different than maybe 4921 03:36:59,156 --> 03:37:02,756 some other things you have seen 4922 03:37:03,794 --> 03:37:05,329 and not this is a proactive 4923 03:37:05,329 --> 03:37:08,231 rezoning by the board of land 4924 03:37:08,231 --> 03:37:08,432 to further the comprehensive 4925 03:37:08,432 --> 03:37:10,432 plan. 4926 03:37:11,101 --> 03:37:14,701 As was directed by the board. 4927 03:37:15,672 --> 03:37:17,672 In JUNE 19, 2026. 4928 03:37:19,176 --> 03:37:21,645 This location was subject o a 4929 03:37:21,645 --> 03:37:24,450 previous rezoning and special 4930 03:37:24,948 --> 03:37:27,840 use permit for a data center 4931 03:37:27,840 --> 03:37:30,654 that was denied by the board. 4932 03:37:30,654 --> 03:37:33,654 There is not much industrial 4933 03:37:35,926 --> 03:37:40,126 land in the area left that is 4934 03:37:40,831 --> 03:37:41,832 not data center claims. 4935 03:37:41,832 --> 03:37:42,833 It's an economic development 4936 03:37:42,833 --> 03:37:43,801 opportunity to use this land 4937 03:37:43,801 --> 03:37:46,201 and encourage development that 4938 03:37:46,937 --> 03:37:51,137 is not going to be at the 4939 03:37:51,642 --> 03:37:52,609 center and by proactively 4940 03:37:52,609 --> 03:37:53,177 rezoning and make the way 4941 03:37:53,177 --> 03:37:55,779 better for it and have more 4942 03:37:55,779 --> 03:37:56,814 land that christina, the 4943 03:37:56,814 --> 03:37:57,281 award-winning economic 4944 03:37:57,281 --> 03:37:59,281 development team. 4945 03:38:02,519 --> 03:38:03,520 So to potential applicants. 4946 03:38:03,520 --> 03:38:04,822 We are recommending initiation 4947 03:38:04,822 --> 03:38:05,722 of this. 4948 03:38:05,722 --> 03:38:08,625 Again it's just initiation of 4949 03:38:08,625 --> 03:38:10,494 the zoning map amendment. 4950 03:38:10,494 --> 03:38:11,161 we will come back with public 4951 03:38:11,161 --> 03:38:12,129 hearing to the planning 4952 03:38:12,129 --> 03:38:14,631 commission and the board to 4953 03:38:14,631 --> 03:38:16,631 approve this rezoning. 4954 03:38:17,935 --> 03:38:20,370 So, just for location wise, 4955 03:38:20,370 --> 03:38:21,905 this is west of manassas on 4956 03:38:21,905 --> 03:38:23,905 route 28. 4957 03:38:26,776 --> 03:38:28,512 West of innovation park. 4958 03:38:28,512 --> 03:38:29,413 North side of the road near the 4959 03:38:29,413 --> 03:38:31,413 airport. 4960 03:38:32,182 --> 03:38:34,582 Near use for tomorrow. 4961 03:38:38,655 --> 03:38:41,625 The broad run linear trail. 4962 03:38:41,625 --> 03:38:43,727 It's s mostly industrial tech 4963 03:38:43,727 --> 03:38:46,727 flex which is the medium 4964 03:38:48,650 --> 03:38:49,660 intensity industrial 4965 03:38:49,660 --> 03:38:49,933 appropriate long-range land use 4966 03:38:49,933 --> 03:38:52,933 for data centers and the 4967 03:38:53,804 --> 03:38:56,440 proposed zoning which will be 4968 03:38:56,440 --> 03:38:58,840 planned business district with 4969 03:39:05,115 --> 03:39:07,718 an office high and office and m 4970 03:39:07,718 --> 03:39:09,718 to land designation. 4971 03:39:13,490 --> 03:39:15,890 The variety for his. 4972 03:39:19,396 --> 03:39:20,970 With that, if I can answer any 4973 03:39:20,970 --> 03:39:22,970 questions. 4974 03:39:27,370 --> 03:39:29,437 >> supervisor gordie you are 4975 03:39:31,708 --> 03:39:32,608 and now you are out. 4976 03:39:32,608 --> 03:39:33,277 >> I just have some comments. 4977 03:39:33,277 --> 03:39:33,544 > does anyone have any 4978 03:39:33,544 --> 03:39:34,845 questions? 4979 03:39:34,845 --> 03:39:36,845 >> dave, this might 4980 03:39:37,140 --> 03:39:37,247 be the easiest time at the 4981 03:39:37,247 --> 03:39:39,247 podium. 4982 03:39:40,884 --> 03:39:41,451 Run while you can. 4983 03:39:41,451 --> 03:39:43,320 Supervisor gordie? 4984 03:39:43,320 --> 03:39:43,754 >> MADAM Chair move we approve 4985 03:39:43,754 --> 03:39:45,754 item 11 b. 4986 03:39:47,991 --> 03:39:48,625 >> moved and 4987 03:39:48,625 --> 03:39:49,226 seconded. 4988 03:39:49,226 --> 03:39:49,726 Supervisor gordie I will turn 4989 03:39:49,726 --> 03:39:51,895 to you for discussion. 4990 03:39:51,895 --> 03:39:54,895 >> MADAM Chair, just a little 4991 03:39:57,100 --> 03:39:58,469 bit of background nd here. 4992 03:39:58,469 --> 03:39:59,470 In working with economic 4993 03:39:59,470 --> 03:40:03,700 development we have come to the 4994 03:40:03,173 --> 03:40:04,107 realization that innovation 4995 03:40:04,107 --> 03:40:05,175 park is running out of land. 4996 03:40:05,175 --> 03:40:08,775 We are looking, running out of 4997 03:40:10,347 --> 03:40:11,181 opportunities s to have land 4998 03:40:11,181 --> 03:40:11,815 that is this close to being 4999 03:40:11,815 --> 03:40:12,820 shovel ready. 5000 03:40:12,820 --> 03:40:14,482 e have lost a 5001 03:40:14,685 --> 03:40:15,652 couple of opportunities because 5002 03:40:15,652 --> 03:40:16,620 the land that we had to offer 5003 03:40:16,620 --> 03:40:19,156 had to go through rezoning and 5004 03:40:19,156 --> 03:40:19,690 then I had to go through 5005 03:40:19,690 --> 03:40:20,591 development services. 5006 03:40:20,591 --> 03:40:23,591 We are looking at 5 b 5007 03:40:25,629 --> 03:40:26,530 6 year 5008 03:40:26,530 --> 03:40:27,564 window and the company says we 5009 03:40:27,564 --> 03:40:29,199 don't have that kind of time so 5010 03:40:29,199 --> 03:40:29,833 if we can identify areas in the 5011 03:40:29,833 --> 03:40:32,233 strategy behind this to 5012 03:40:32,469 --> 03:40:33,103 identify areas, land 5013 03:40:33,103 --> 03:40:35,503 opportunities where we don't 5014 03:40:38,909 --> 03:40:39,810 need a lot of improvements. 5015 03:40:39,810 --> 03:40:40,711 The roads already exist. 5016 03:40:40,711 --> 03:40:41,345 The water, the sewer and 5017 03:40:41,345 --> 03:40:42,346 everything already exists. 5018 03:40:42,346 --> 03:40:45,946 The land just does not align, 5019 03:40:46,416 --> 03:40:47,251 currently with -- in terms of 5020 03:40:47,251 --> 03:40:49,586 zoning to the comprehensive 5021 03:40:49,586 --> 03:40:50,287 plan. 5022 03:40:50,287 --> 03:40:54,487 We take a look, try to identify 5023 03:40:57,494 --> 03:40:58,262 the opportunities, this will 5024 03:40:58,262 --> 03:40:58,896 give us the chance to offer up 5025 03:40:58,896 --> 03:41:01,296 more opportunities for the 5026 03:41:03,167 --> 03:41:04,334 economic development. 5027 03:41:04,334 --> 03:41:05,100 So the proactive rezoning that 5028 03:41:05,100 --> 03:41:05,435 we are doing here is sort of a 5029 03:41:05,435 --> 03:41:06,136 test. 5030 03:41:06,136 --> 03:41:07,971 It's really that we are 5031 03:41:07,971 --> 03:41:10,371 pressure testing the approach 5032 03:41:11,375 --> 03:41:14,975 to proactive rezoning was and I 5033 03:41:14,978 --> 03:41:15,179 really appreciate the planning 5034 03:41:15,179 --> 03:41:15,979 staff. 5035 03:41:15,979 --> 03:41:16,280 I appreciate economic 5036 03:41:16,280 --> 03:41:18,280 development. 5037 03:41:18,816 --> 03:41:19,650 We have had numerous meetings 5038 03:41:19,650 --> 03:41:20,284 about how do we do this? 5039 03:41:20,284 --> 03:41:22,953 Where we need to do to move 5040 03:41:22,953 --> 03:41:23,887 this forward? 5041 03:41:23,887 --> 03:41:26,223 This is sort of the test case 5042 03:41:26,223 --> 03:41:26,557 to figure out how we do this 5043 03:41:26,557 --> 03:41:27,900 going forward. 5044 03:41:27,900 --> 03:41:28,625 Here might be 5045 03:41:28,625 --> 03:41:31,625 some bumps along the way. 5046 03:41:33,964 --> 03:41:34,531 We've already had one bump and 5047 03:41:34,531 --> 03:41:34,598 realized there was 2 b 5048 03:41:34,598 --> 03:41:35,399 3 5049 03:41:35,399 --> 03:41:36,767 parcels that we failed to 5050 03:41:36,767 --> 03:41:36,967 include that need to be part of 5051 03:41:36,967 --> 03:41:37,801 this. 5052 03:41:37,801 --> 03:41:40,904 We will be bringing those back 5053 03:41:40,904 --> 03:41:44,504 later on to provide the access 5054 03:41:45,476 --> 03:41:47,377 to the site. 5055 03:41:47,377 --> 03:41:50,377 In order to maintain momentum 5056 03:41:52,816 --> 03:41:53,851 with what we currently have 5057 03:41:53,851 --> 03:41:54,551 ongoing, I am asking us to move 5058 03:41:54,551 --> 03:41:56,887 forward and we will address the 5059 03:41:56,887 --> 03:41:59,887 other parcels here this month 5060 03:42:00,757 --> 03:42:01,658 or next month. 5061 03:42:01,658 --> 03:42:04,580 >> thank you MADAM Chair. 5062 03:42:10,868 --> 03:42:11,535 >> supervisor bodie? 5063 03:42:11,535 --> 03:42:12,436 >> again, not many people here 5064 03:42:12,436 --> 03:42:16,636 in the audience but I will say 5065 03:42:17,474 --> 03:42:18,750 it anyway. 5066 03:42:18,750 --> 03:42:18,976 We said no to the campus. 5067 03:42:18,976 --> 03:42:19,843 We have an opportunity now to 5068 03:42:19,843 --> 03:42:21,843 highlight and increase 5069 03:42:25,150 --> 03:42:26,283 employment and not activity 5070 03:42:26,283 --> 03:42:27,317 that is in the brownsville 5071 03:42:27,317 --> 03:42:27,985 district because we decided to 5072 03:42:27,985 --> 03:42:28,318 go into a different direction 5073 03:42:28,318 --> 03:42:29,860 on that. 5074 03:42:29,860 --> 03:42:29,686 Earlier today, the approval, 5075 03:42:29,686 --> 03:42:31,288 there is another opportunity 5076 03:42:31,288 --> 03:42:31,522 where we said no to the data 5077 03:42:31,522 --> 03:42:33,522 center. 5078 03:42:37,227 --> 03:42:37,594 We said no in various other 5079 03:42:37,594 --> 03:42:38,228 ways. 5080 03:42:38,228 --> 03:42:38,862 We have employment 5081 03:42:38,862 --> 03:42:39,796 opportunities there as well. 5082 03:42:39,796 --> 03:42:40,697 I say that to say there is 5083 03:42:40,697 --> 03:42:43,970 momentum behind looking at 5084 03:42:45,736 --> 03:42:46,336 these areas in different ways. 5085 03:42:46,336 --> 03:42:47,171 Saying no to data where it 5086 03:42:47,171 --> 03:42:48,500 makes sense and in order to 5087 03:42:48,500 --> 03:42:50,500 have more opportunities. 5088 03:42:58,348 --> 03:42:58,949 I also see this as a broad 5089 03:42:58,949 --> 03:43:00,250 scape around green tape. 5090 03:43:00,250 --> 03:43:00,951 We talk about red taping and 5091 03:43:00,951 --> 03:43:01,919 regulations and how they get a 5092 03:43:01,919 --> 03:43:02,786 way of allowing folks to create 5093 03:43:02,786 --> 03:43:03,754 more job opportunities or 5094 03:43:03,754 --> 03:43:04,454 housing opportunities. 5095 03:43:04,454 --> 03:43:04,655 More opportunities to begin 5096 03:43:04,655 --> 03:43:06,655 with. 5097 03:43:07,690 --> 03:43:07,891 I see it as a great step and a 5098 03:43:07,891 --> 03:43:08,792 pilot. 5099 03:43:08,792 --> 03:43:09,726 Green tape where it makes sense 5100 03:43:09,726 --> 03:43:13,230 to the county to allow folks to 5101 03:43:13,230 --> 03:43:13,463 get through the process a lot 5102 03:43:13,463 --> 03:43:13,831 quicker. 5103 03:43:13,831 --> 03:43:15,831 Time is money. 5104 03:43:16,330 --> 03:43:18,330 Money is time. 5105 03:43:22,606 --> 03:43:23,207 In situation where you have 5106 03:43:23,207 --> 03:43:23,507 people that need land now. 5107 03:43:23,507 --> 03:43:24,740 24 b 5108 03:43:24,740 --> 03:43:26,474 36 month cycle to go 5109 03:43:29,913 --> 03:43:30,814 through a entitlement and the 5110 03:43:30,814 --> 03:43:31,148 development services and all 5111 03:43:31,148 --> 03:43:31,815 those things. 5112 03:43:31,815 --> 03:43:32,816 They don't have time. 5113 03:43:32,816 --> 03:43:33,484 There is other localities that 5114 03:43:33,484 --> 03:43:37,684 will allow that to be a much 5115 03:43:37,688 --> 03:43:38,550 more streamlined, shorter 5116 03:43:38,550 --> 03:43:39,560 timeframe. 5117 03:43:39,560 --> 03:43:39,389 We are losing out on these 5118 03:43:39,389 --> 03:43:41,389 opportunities. 5119 03:43:42,326 --> 03:43:42,759 I just say that to say, this is 5120 03:43:42,759 --> 03:43:43,594 the first one. 5121 03:43:43,594 --> 03:43:44,628 I hope it's not the last. 5122 03:43:44,628 --> 03:43:45,229 I really look forward to seeing 5123 03:43:45,229 --> 03:43:46,730 how this is tested out and 5124 03:43:46,730 --> 03:43:50,330 pressure tested so we can begin 5125 03:43:53,437 --> 03:43:54,438 looking at ways to incorporate 5126 03:43:54,438 --> 03:43:55,239 that into other strategies that 5127 03:43:55,239 --> 03:43:56,173 we have two green tape the 5128 03:43:56,173 --> 03:43:56,740 development as it makes sense 5129 03:43:56,740 --> 03:43:56,974 to create more jobs in the 5130 03:43:56,974 --> 03:43:57,508 county. 5131 03:43:57,508 --> 03:43:58,208 Thank you, MADAM Chair. 5132 03:43:58,208 --> 03:43:58,909 >> alright I don't have anyone 5133 03:43:58,909 --> 03:44:01,309 else in the queue. 5134 03:44:02,450 --> 03:44:03,747 Let's go ahead. 5135 03:44:03,747 --> 03:44:03,947 Wait, we have a motion on this, 5136 03:44:03,947 --> 03:44:05,947 right? 5137 03:44:15,826 --> 03:44:18,226 Let's take the vote. 5138 03:44:18,395 --> 03:44:20,395 >> vote is unanimous. 5139 03:44:21,198 --> 03:44:22,166 >> thank you so very much. 5140 03:44:22,166 --> 03:44:25,166 As we mentioned earlier, we 5141 03:44:26,203 --> 03:44:29,439 voted to defer 11 item c to a 5142 03:44:29,439 --> 03:44:31,439 day uncertain. 5143 03:44:32,900 --> 03:44:32,176 We will go ray into agenda item 5144 03:44:32,176 --> 03:44:34,176 12. 5145 03:44:36,380 --> 03:44:36,580 I first would like to take some 5146 03:44:36,580 --> 03:44:38,580 votes. 5147 03:44:39,249 --> 03:44:42,849 Let's go ahead and move letter 5148 03:44:46,924 --> 03:44:47,925 12 a. 5149 03:44:47,925 --> 03:44:50,325 >> properly moved and seconded. 5150 03:44:59,203 --> 03:45:02,803 let's go ahead and take the 5151 03:45:05,476 --> 03:45:07,476 >> is it working? 5152 03:45:13,817 --> 03:45:14,117 Jeannie is a yes. 5153 03:45:14,117 --> 03:45:14,818 [Laughter] 5154 03:45:14,818 --> 03:45:15,919 >> the vote is unanimous. 5155 03:45:15,919 --> 03:45:20,119 >> we are going to move on now 5156 03:45:22,626 --> 03:45:23,360 to letter 12 do you want to 5157 03:45:23,360 --> 03:45:26,360 keep it up for us? 5158 03:45:26,462 --> 03:45:29,462 Please turn on the microphone. 5159 03:45:30,434 --> 03:45:32,336 >> MADAM Chair -- I promise you 5160 03:45:32,336 --> 03:45:34,336 this will happen. 5161 03:45:34,404 --> 03:45:36,807 I want to take this opportunity 5162 03:45:36,807 --> 03:45:39,807 to introduce the director that 5163 03:45:43,947 --> 03:45:44,815 I shared with you all before 5164 03:45:44,815 --> 03:45:45,849 and I'm bringing it back 5165 03:45:45,849 --> 03:45:46,416 because governor has passed the 5166 03:45:46,416 --> 03:45:47,384 bill in reference to this. 5167 03:45:47,384 --> 03:45:48,418 As we know there has been a lot 5168 03:45:48,418 --> 03:45:49,453 of discussion and proposed 5169 03:45:49,453 --> 03:45:51,453 legislation regarding marijuana 5170 03:45:52,422 --> 03:45:53,220 and cannabis. 5171 03:45:53,220 --> 03:45:56,622 I like to explore the ability 5172 03:45:58,562 --> 03:45:59,563 of establishing local marijuana 5173 03:45:59,563 --> 03:46:00,197 task force and prince william 5174 03:46:00,197 --> 03:46:00,831 county. 5175 03:46:00,831 --> 03:46:03,000 Without objection I would like 5176 03:46:03,000 --> 03:46:03,967 to direct the county executive 5177 03:46:03,967 --> 03:46:04,835 to work with staff to review 5178 03:46:04,835 --> 03:46:05,869 the counties legal authority 5179 03:46:05,869 --> 03:46:07,700 under current federal and state 5180 03:46:07,700 --> 03:46:10,707 law to implement such a tax to 5181 03:46:10,707 --> 03:46:12,707 include 2026 general assembly 5182 03:46:13,676 --> 03:46:13,944 legislation signed by our 5183 03:46:13,944 --> 03:46:15,944 governor. 5184 03:46:16,480 --> 03:46:19,480 An assessment of the azur-HGAzurcc 5185 03:46:20,584 --> 03:46:22,219 administrative requirements 5186 03:46:22,219 --> 03:46:23,220 associated with such tax. 5187 03:46:23,220 --> 03:46:24,254 Consideration of how pure 5188 03:46:24,254 --> 03:46:26,654 jurisdiction of the virginia 5189 03:46:27,191 --> 03:46:28,158 are approaching this issue on 5190 03:46:28,158 --> 03:46:30,558 any policy consideration or 5191 03:46:36,990 --> 03:46:37,100 implementation challenges the 5192 03:46:37,100 --> 03:46:37,334 board should be aware of going 5193 03:46:37,334 --> 03:46:37,501 forward. 5194 03:46:37,501 --> 03:46:38,635 The 5195 03:46:38,635 --> 03:46:39,236 county executive is directed 5196 03:46:39,236 --> 03:46:40,137 to bring back an appropriate 5197 03:46:40,137 --> 03:46:40,604 regulation for the board 5198 03:46:40,604 --> 03:46:41,772 consideration. 5199 03:46:41,772 --> 03:46:42,639 Such recommendation should, 5200 03:46:42,639 --> 03:46:44,639 where applicable, should 5201 03:46:45,275 --> 03:46:46,143 include timelines, physical 5202 03:46:46,143 --> 03:46:46,610 impacts and other pertinent 5203 03:46:46,610 --> 03:46:48,610 impacts for board 5204 03:46:48,912 --> 03:46:49,780 consideration. 5205 03:46:49,780 --> 03:46:50,714 The county attorney's office is 5206 03:46:50,714 --> 03:46:52,549 directed to review the 5207 03:46:52,549 --> 03:46:54,949 information regulations for any 5208 03:46:59,189 --> 03:47:00,224 legal issues keeping us safe 5209 03:47:00,224 --> 03:47:00,858 when the researcher work are 5210 03:47:00,858 --> 03:47:01,792 completed the county executive 5211 03:47:01,792 --> 03:47:02,860 should report back to the board 5212 03:47:02,860 --> 03:47:04,261 with his recommendations during 5213 03:47:04,261 --> 03:47:07,261 board meetings or by memorandum 5214 03:47:09,933 --> 03:47:10,868 as they determine 5215 03:47:10,868 --> 03:47:11,568 appropriately. 5216 03:47:11,568 --> 03:47:13,968 >> Chair Deshundra: we don't 5217 03:47:17,207 --> 03:47:17,508 need to read anymore 5218 03:47:17,508 --> 03:47:18,308 . 5219 03:47:18,308 --> 03:47:18,909 You want to make sure. 5220 03:47:18,909 --> 03:47:19,476 If there are no objections, 5221 03:47:19,476 --> 03:47:19,776 does anyone have any 5222 03:47:19,776 --> 03:47:20,811 objections? 5223 03:47:20,811 --> 03:47:22,811 All right 5224 03:47:25,516 --> 03:47:26,416 . 5225 03:47:26,416 --> 03:47:26,650 There is no one jumping. 5226 03:47:26,650 --> 03:47:28,650 Do you 5227 03:47:32,823 --> 03:47:34,900 want to jump? 5228 03:47:34,900 --> 03:47:36,900 All right. 5229 03:47:39,563 --> 03:47:40,364 And so that moves forward it. 5230 03:47:40,364 --> 03:47:40,898 I will let you go ahead. 5231 03:47:40,898 --> 03:47:41,980 Keep that light on. 5232 03:47:41,980 --> 03:47:42,266 E will go 5233 03:47:42,266 --> 03:47:44,266 around the horn 5234 03:47:51,410 --> 03:47:51,975 . 5235 03:47:51,975 --> 03:47:54,975 I am just saying yes 5236 03:47:55,120 --> 03:47:57,120 . 5237 03:47:58,215 --> 03:47:58,782 Everyone has 5238 03:47:58,782 --> 03:48:00,782 , I know kidneys 5239 03:48:03,187 --> 03:48:04,870 and their own stuff because 5240 03:48:04,870 --> 03:48:04,688 long as everyone sends it to 5241 03:48:04,688 --> 03:48:07,791 the board it will get on the 5242 03:48:07,791 --> 03:48:08,525 next agenda so if anyone is 5243 03:48:08,525 --> 03:48:12,125 anything to pass out, email is 5244 03:48:13,397 --> 03:48:13,597 a better option pick with that 5245 03:48:13,597 --> 03:48:14,264 , 5246 03:48:14,264 --> 03:48:17,864 are you ready for your five 5247 03:48:22,239 --> 03:48:24,239 minutes of fame? 5248 03:48:31,181 --> 03:48:32,150 [Inaudible] 5249 03:48:32,150 --> 03:48:34,415 To reappoint millicent greene 5250 03:48:36,320 --> 03:48:39,656 to the cda borden point seth to 5251 03:48:39,656 --> 03:48:39,823 the housing board 5252 03:48:39,823 --> 03:48:40,791 . 5253 03:48:40,791 --> 03:48:41,992 With that I participated in 5254 03:48:41,992 --> 03:48:45,295 national night out and had a 5255 03:48:45,295 --> 03:48:45,496 great time with my colleagues 5256 03:48:45,496 --> 03:48:46,129 . 5257 03:48:46,129 --> 03:48:46,964 Thanks to the chief and 5258 03:48:46,964 --> 03:48:49,364 corridor for the amazing 5259 03:48:50,501 --> 03:48:51,101 evening minute ride. 5260 03:48:51,101 --> 03:48:53,237 On the fifth I have a youth 5261 03:48:53,237 --> 03:48:56,237 form with my interns and 5262 03:48:56,440 --> 03:48:58,440 captain carter came 5263 03:49:03,780 --> 03:49:04,648 , along with 5264 03:49:04,648 --> 03:49:05,582 three other youth leaders and 5265 03:49:05,582 --> 03:49:06,583 they talked about community 5266 03:49:06,583 --> 03:49:07,251 safety and youth engagement, 5267 03:49:07,251 --> 03:49:08,850 mental health and emotional 5268 03:49:08,850 --> 03:49:09,860 wellness for preparing 5269 03:49:09,860 --> 03:49:09,653 challenges for youth in the 5270 03:49:09,653 --> 03:49:10,487 community. 5271 03:49:10,487 --> 03:49:14,870 On the sixth I attended the 5272 03:49:14,858 --> 03:49:15,859 adult recovery court 5273 03:49:15,859 --> 03:49:17,859 graduations and congratulation 5274 03:49:18,428 --> 03:49:21,428 to supervisor angry for your 5275 03:49:22,399 --> 03:49:25,399 presentation and then on the 5276 03:49:26,970 --> 03:49:29,970 eighth I attended the american 5277 03:49:34,110 --> 03:49:35,450 revolution memorial dedication 5278 03:49:35,450 --> 03:49:36,130 thanks to rob, parks and 5279 03:49:36,130 --> 03:49:37,470 recreation for a beautiful 5280 03:49:37,470 --> 03:49:39,447 presentation and finalizing our 5281 03:49:40,417 --> 03:49:40,651 museum 5282 03:49:40,651 --> 03:49:41,840 . 5283 03:49:41,840 --> 03:49:41,718 It's beautiful. 5284 03:49:41,718 --> 03:49:42,452 If you haven't gone there, 5285 03:49:42,452 --> 03:49:44,852 please take a look. 5286 03:49:45,823 --> 03:49:48,223 Fire rescue graduation class 5287 03:49:49,593 --> 03:49:49,860 xxvi one bird dogs they 5288 03:49:49,860 --> 03:49:51,860 graduated. 5289 03:49:52,290 --> 03:49:52,129 On the 13th through the 15th 5290 03:49:52,129 --> 03:49:54,129 , 5291 03:49:55,320 --> 03:49:55,833 supervisor angry for a great 5292 03:49:55,833 --> 03:49:58,233 powerful summit where our 5293 03:49:59,636 --> 03:50:01,605 governor makino speaker came 5294 03:50:01,605 --> 03:50:05,805 and talked to us and us chair 5295 03:50:07,440 --> 03:50:07,711 and how the human resources 5296 03:50:07,711 --> 03:50:08,579 came and talked to us about 5297 03:50:08,579 --> 03:50:10,979 snap on medicaid programs 5298 03:50:12,616 --> 03:50:12,716 within our region 5299 03:50:12,716 --> 03:50:14,716 . 5300 03:50:15,185 --> 03:50:17,120 on the 15th participated in the 5301 03:50:17,120 --> 03:50:19,520 foundation annual back to 5302 03:50:21,290 --> 03:50:21,859 school backpack were 5303 03:50:21,859 --> 03:50:22,826 contributed to my stuff 5304 03:50:22,826 --> 03:50:24,826 attended 5305 03:50:27,664 --> 03:50:29,664 . 5306 03:50:32,569 --> 03:50:33,504 The 10th annual anniversary for 5307 03:50:33,504 --> 03:50:35,872 the jr realtor association. 5308 03:50:35,872 --> 03:50:36,874 Congratulations to them. 5309 03:50:36,874 --> 03:50:39,874 And then the 25th anniversary 5310 03:50:41,245 --> 03:50:44,245 wrap up buses in person. 5311 03:50:46,717 --> 03:50:49,286 And then condolences to one of 5312 03:50:49,286 --> 03:50:49,520 our great leaders 5313 03:50:49,520 --> 03:50:51,520 , doctor 5314 03:50:57,661 --> 03:50:58,662 howard passed away she was the 5315 03:50:58,662 --> 03:50:59,396 PRESIDENT Of the national board 5316 03:50:59,396 --> 03:51:00,330 member with the coalition of 5317 03:51:00,330 --> 03:51:00,831 100 black women in prince 5318 03:51:00,831 --> 03:51:02,831 william county. 5319 03:51:04,434 --> 03:51:04,735 We will MISS Her advocacy and 5320 03:51:04,735 --> 03:51:05,502 support. 5321 03:51:05,502 --> 03:51:10,302 On the 27th I did the back to 5322 03:51:10,674 --> 03:51:11,809 school to her and shook hands 5323 03:51:11,809 --> 03:51:12,576 with the parents and high-fived 5324 03:51:12,576 --> 03:51:15,412 with the kids and we had a 5325 03:51:15,412 --> 03:51:15,679 great time 5326 03:51:15,679 --> 03:51:16,380 . 5327 03:51:16,380 --> 03:51:17,281 Visas on the 27th as well. 5328 03:51:17,281 --> 03:51:19,283 We had a good time and then on 5329 03:51:19,283 --> 03:51:22,486 the 30th I participated in the 5330 03:51:22,486 --> 03:51:23,487 maternal health summit 2026 5331 03:51:23,487 --> 03:51:26,487 more program thanks to kristin 5332 03:51:26,557 --> 03:51:28,957 's who honored and 5333 03:51:34,465 --> 03:51:36,330 participated. 5334 03:51:36,330 --> 03:51:37,600 My mert derek would for the 5335 03:51:37,600 --> 03:51:40,000 summit to support maternal 5336 03:51:48,245 --> 03:51:49,279 health care congratulations to 5337 03:51:49,279 --> 03:51:51,679 the washington manassas airport 5338 03:51:53,160 --> 03:51:55,160 authority ceremony. 5339 03:51:57,588 --> 03:51:59,790 We have finally gotten a formal 5340 03:51:59,790 --> 03:51:59,923 certification 5341 03:51:59,923 --> 03:52:01,923 . 5342 03:52:06,395 --> 03:52:07,640 We can operate as a commercial 5343 03:52:07,640 --> 03:52:07,931 airport and we need that on 5344 03:52:07,931 --> 03:52:08,866 this end of the county so 5345 03:52:08,866 --> 03:52:09,433 congratulations to all that is 5346 03:52:09,433 --> 03:52:11,433 all I have. 5347 03:52:13,270 --> 03:52:13,804 >> Chair Deshundra: all right. 5348 03:52:13,804 --> 03:52:15,804 Supervisor stewart? 5349 03:52:17,107 --> 03:52:17,541 >> George Stewart: thank you 5350 03:52:17,541 --> 03:52:19,541 madam chair. 5351 03:52:22,813 --> 03:52:22,980 Welcome back for what remains 5352 03:52:22,980 --> 03:52:24,980 . 5353 03:52:25,482 --> 03:52:27,518 I trust everybody had a good 5354 03:52:27,518 --> 03:52:30,518 healthy summer and will enjoy 5355 03:52:30,687 --> 03:52:30,854 what remains 5356 03:52:30,854 --> 03:52:31,522 . 5357 03:52:31,522 --> 03:52:34,522 Just to mention some things 5358 03:52:39,229 --> 03:52:39,396 that happened since we last 5359 03:52:39,396 --> 03:52:40,330 met. 5360 03:52:40,330 --> 03:52:43,330 I also attended national night 5361 03:52:44,234 --> 03:52:44,968 out in haymarket. 5362 03:52:44,968 --> 03:52:47,968 On AUGUST 21 I attended with 5363 03:52:52,676 --> 03:52:52,910 MADAM Chair the ribbon-cutting 5364 03:52:52,910 --> 03:52:53,644 . 5365 03:52:53,644 --> 03:52:56,346 The del webb the community and 5366 03:52:56,346 --> 03:52:56,613 also in haymarket close to the 5367 03:52:56,613 --> 03:52:58,613 hospital. 5368 03:52:59,882 --> 03:53:02,286 I attended the summer concert 5369 03:53:02,286 --> 03:53:02,386 series in haymarket 5370 03:53:02,386 --> 03:53:04,188 . 5371 03:53:04,188 --> 03:53:07,788 Haymarket is doing a law and 5372 03:53:08,192 --> 03:53:10,994 also participated in A.M. Dc 5373 03:53:10,994 --> 03:53:11,995 zip line to work. 5374 03:53:11,995 --> 03:53:13,363 Everybody have a great 5375 03:53:13,363 --> 03:53:15,999 remaining of summer we will see 5376 03:53:15,999 --> 03:53:17,340 you in two weeks. 5377 03:53:17,340 --> 03:53:19,434 >> Chair Deshundra: are you 5378 03:53:24,274 --> 03:53:25,800 ready supervisor gordy? 5379 03:53:25,800 --> 03:53:27,678 >> Tom Gordy: I don't have a 5380 03:53:27,678 --> 03:53:27,811 whole lot to share 5381 03:53:27,811 --> 03:53:29,811 . 5382 03:53:38,188 --> 03:53:38,755 I did take the opportunity on 5383 03:53:38,755 --> 03:53:39,389 the AUGUST recess to travel 5384 03:53:39,389 --> 03:53:40,624 with my family across the 5385 03:53:40,624 --> 03:53:41,191 country to take a road trip to 5386 03:53:41,191 --> 03:53:43,930 do something my family has 5387 03:53:43,930 --> 03:53:44,940 never done. 5388 03:53:44,940 --> 03:53:46,940 Seen 22 states traveling 8000 5389 03:53:46,263 --> 03:53:47,364 miles 5390 03:53:47,364 --> 03:53:49,364 , visiting national parks. 5391 03:53:52,836 --> 03:53:53,837 Visiting you lotta communities 5392 03:53:53,837 --> 03:53:54,838 and seeing what's happening 5393 03:53:54,838 --> 03:53:55,806 across the country in terms of 5394 03:53:55,806 --> 03:53:58,806 how they are managing housing, 5395 03:53:58,842 --> 03:54:01,242 how they are managing 5396 03:54:04,470 --> 03:54:05,480 transportation. 5397 03:54:05,480 --> 03:54:06,490 As well as come amazingly how 5398 03:54:06,490 --> 03:54:07,840 many say no to datacenter signs 5399 03:54:07,840 --> 03:54:09,484 across the country in 5400 03:54:09,786 --> 03:54:09,887 communities 5401 03:54:09,887 --> 03:54:11,887 . 5402 03:54:13,423 --> 03:54:17,230 The issues we are dealing with 5403 03:54:19,863 --> 03:54:20,970 are not isolated to us 5404 03:54:20,970 --> 03:54:21,640 . 5405 03:54:21,640 --> 03:54:22,650 Clearly we are seeing many 5406 03:54:22,650 --> 03:54:24,465 communities across the country 5407 03:54:24,935 --> 03:54:25,636 dealing with affordable housing 5408 03:54:25,636 --> 03:54:28,636 they are dealing with other 5409 03:54:28,939 --> 03:54:29,907 life affordability issues. 5410 03:54:29,907 --> 03:54:32,142 It's really interesting to see 5411 03:54:32,142 --> 03:54:33,177 what life is like. 5412 03:54:33,177 --> 03:54:37,247 All I can say is I'm glad that 5413 03:54:37,247 --> 03:54:40,684 we are not paying $6.90 per gas 5414 03:54:40,684 --> 03:54:43,684 like they are in california. 5415 03:54:44,922 --> 03:54:45,556 I do want to let the community 5416 03:54:45,556 --> 03:54:48,759 know chair jefferson and I are 5417 03:54:48,759 --> 03:54:49,560 working on a date and should 5418 03:54:49,560 --> 03:54:53,760 have a date set soon as a 5419 03:54:56,467 --> 03:54:57,167 follow-up to power meetings on 5420 03:54:57,167 --> 03:54:58,680 electrical power and so we will 5421 03:54:58,680 --> 03:55:00,504 be getting those dates out very 5422 03:55:00,504 --> 03:55:01,538 shortly and look forward to 5423 03:55:01,538 --> 03:55:03,938 conversations about meeting the 5424 03:55:05,909 --> 03:55:06,577 challenges concerning the 5425 03:55:06,577 --> 03:55:07,511 burnsville district. 5426 03:55:07,511 --> 03:55:11,248 Other than that, that is all I 5427 03:55:11,248 --> 03:55:12,382 have. 5428 03:55:12,382 --> 03:55:12,649 >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going 5429 03:55:12,649 --> 03:55:13,417 to go to 5430 03:55:13,417 --> 03:55:14,840 supervisor boddye. 5431 03:55:14,840 --> 03:55:16,484 >> Kenny Boddye: thank you 5432 03:55:25,796 --> 03:55:26,797 MADAM Chair. 5433 03:55:26,797 --> 03:55:27,731 First, a housekeeping item. 5434 03:55:27,731 --> 03:55:28,432 I would like to provide my 5435 03:55:28,432 --> 03:55:29,299 notice of intent to appoint 5436 03:55:29,299 --> 03:55:29,500 owen meyer to the library 5437 03:55:29,500 --> 03:55:31,301 board. 5438 03:55:31,301 --> 03:55:31,902 The clerks have his resume he's 5439 03:55:31,902 --> 03:55:33,300 going to be one our youngest 5440 03:55:33,300 --> 03:55:33,700 appointees 5441 03:55:33,700 --> 03:55:35,700 . 5442 03:55:37,474 --> 03:55:38,800 He has come to our meeting 5443 03:55:38,800 --> 03:55:41,608 quite a few times and is 5444 03:55:42,279 --> 03:55:43,247 enthusiastic about working with 5445 03:55:43,247 --> 03:55:44,214 the community and helping and 5446 03:55:44,214 --> 03:55:45,649 so I appreciate being able to 5447 03:55:45,649 --> 03:55:45,782 appoint him 5448 03:55:45,782 --> 03:55:47,782 . 5449 03:55:49,186 --> 03:55:49,453 I'm not going to belabor this 5450 03:55:49,453 --> 03:55:50,220 too much. 5451 03:55:50,220 --> 03:55:51,355 I went to the same events 5452 03:55:51,355 --> 03:55:52,823 everyone else did. 5453 03:55:52,823 --> 03:55:52,923 It's a great opportunity 5454 03:55:52,923 --> 03:55:54,923 . 5455 03:55:55,959 --> 03:55:59,559 There are some folks in the 5456 03:56:00,797 --> 03:56:02,990 business community that think 5457 03:56:02,990 --> 03:56:02,866 that AUGUST recess means less 5458 03:56:02,866 --> 03:56:04,868 work on the dais or for the 5459 03:56:04,868 --> 03:56:06,868 county government. 5460 03:56:08,205 --> 03:56:08,338 It does not mean that 5461 03:56:08,338 --> 03:56:10,274 . 5462 03:56:10,274 --> 03:56:13,874 I want to highlight the work 5463 03:56:15,212 --> 03:56:18,115 they did with the team and off 5464 03:56:18,115 --> 03:56:18,248 of the table 5465 03:56:18,248 --> 03:56:20,248 . 5466 03:56:21,785 --> 03:56:22,753 And to all my colleagues we 5467 03:56:22,753 --> 03:56:26,953 continue to show up at each and 5468 03:56:28,325 --> 03:56:29,259 every day in various ways and 5469 03:56:29,259 --> 03:56:30,394 so I wanted to highlight doctor 5470 03:56:30,394 --> 03:56:30,761 guide to resolutions I wanted 5471 03:56:30,761 --> 03:56:32,761 to discuss. 5472 03:56:32,896 --> 03:56:33,230 When I sent out to folks a week 5473 03:56:33,230 --> 03:56:34,665 and half ago. 5474 03:56:34,665 --> 03:56:34,898 I'm sorry but I did print this 5475 03:56:34,898 --> 03:56:36,898 one out. 5476 03:56:41,438 --> 03:56:43,838 Some folks like paper 5477 03:56:45,342 --> 03:56:46,376 this day and age. 5478 03:56:46,376 --> 03:56:48,879 Most onto opportunity to be 5479 03:56:48,879 --> 03:56:52,479 brief I principal them water in 5480 03:56:54,170 --> 03:56:55,180 regards to interest of the city 5481 03:56:55,180 --> 03:56:57,418 of manassas on consumptive 5482 03:57:01,425 --> 03:57:02,292 reuse and diverting some of the 5483 03:57:02,292 --> 03:57:02,626 treated wastewater out of the 5484 03:57:02,626 --> 03:57:03,227 system to buy 5485 03:57:03,227 --> 03:57:03,494 used by industrial 5486 03:57:03,494 --> 03:57:05,494 uses. 5487 03:57:06,463 --> 03:57:09,600 He highlighted why there is a 5488 03:57:09,600 --> 03:57:12,600 concern a principal them water. 5489 03:57:13,103 --> 03:57:13,704 Fairfax county and our very own 5490 03:57:13,704 --> 03:57:14,638 fairfax water board of 5491 03:57:14,638 --> 03:57:17,380 directors is concerned about 5492 03:57:18,308 --> 03:57:20,308 this. 5493 03:57:21,478 --> 03:57:23,614 That we take a stance as we 5494 03:57:23,614 --> 03:57:26,140 continue to have conversation 5495 03:57:28,852 --> 03:57:29,720 on water scarcity of our water 5496 03:57:29,720 --> 03:57:31,121 comes from treated water that 5497 03:57:31,121 --> 03:57:34,240 is put back in the system 5498 03:57:34,240 --> 03:57:37,624 having it go away was probably 5499 03:57:40,297 --> 03:57:40,664 not a good idea 5500 03:57:40,664 --> 03:57:41,231 . 5501 03:57:41,231 --> 03:57:42,199 That's going to be on the 5502 03:57:42,199 --> 03:57:45,199 SEPTEMBER 15 agenda so I wanted 5503 03:57:45,302 --> 03:57:47,137 to handed out to folks to have. 5504 03:57:47,137 --> 03:57:50,137 The resolution out to folks. 5505 03:57:50,474 --> 03:57:51,842 Long story short 5506 03:57:51,842 --> 03:57:53,842 , there was a 5507 03:57:56,413 --> 03:57:58,810 house bill that asked for a 5508 03:57:58,810 --> 03:58:01,810 groundwater study to look up 5509 03:58:01,318 --> 03:58:04,318 western loud in falk your 5510 03:58:06,690 --> 03:58:07,391 counties in the watershed there 5511 03:58:07,391 --> 03:58:09,391 for groundwater concerns, 5512 03:58:12,290 --> 03:58:13,630 possible mitigations, 5513 03:58:13,630 --> 03:58:13,764 groundwater management 5514 03:58:13,764 --> 03:58:15,980 strategies and is everyone on 5515 03:58:15,980 --> 03:58:18,980 the board and the community 5516 03:58:19,403 --> 03:58:20,404 will knows, watershed and 5517 03:58:20,404 --> 03:58:21,338 basins don't respect boundaries 5518 03:58:21,338 --> 03:58:23,720 and so we were left out of 5519 03:58:23,720 --> 03:58:23,807 that. 5520 03:58:23,807 --> 03:58:24,708 The bill died in committee in 5521 03:58:24,708 --> 03:58:27,708 qu?Bec and resurrected through 5522 03:58:28,846 --> 03:58:29,446 the budget amendment was 5523 03:58:29,446 --> 03:58:31,446 ultimately passed. 5524 03:58:34,251 --> 03:58:35,285 Deq was conducting the study 5525 03:58:35,285 --> 03:58:36,320 and it's going to be delivered 5526 03:58:36,320 --> 03:58:37,154 sometime later this year in the 5527 03:58:37,154 --> 03:58:37,421 NOVEMBER and DECEMBER 5528 03:58:37,421 --> 03:58:38,550 timeframe. 5529 03:58:38,550 --> 03:58:40,550 My second 5530 03:58:44,962 --> 03:58:45,596 resolution requests that has us 5531 03:58:45,596 --> 03:58:49,796 request can we be added to the 5532 03:58:51,902 --> 03:58:52,202 study 5533 03:58:52,202 --> 03:58:53,170 . 5534 03:58:53,170 --> 03:58:54,138 Groundwater impacts also would 5535 03:58:54,138 --> 03:58:57,341 impact us as well so I wanted 5536 03:58:57,341 --> 03:58:58,275 us to be included in the study. 5537 03:58:58,275 --> 03:58:59,176 Going on that is a lot for us 5538 03:58:59,176 --> 03:59:02,176 to consider some not formally 5539 03:59:02,646 --> 03:59:03,247 requesting that be only for 5540 03:59:03,247 --> 03:59:03,680 SEPTEMBER 16 agenda but I 5541 03:59:03,680 --> 03:59:05,680 wanted to. 5542 03:59:07,551 --> 03:59:08,485 >> Kenny Boddye: it now so 5543 03:59:08,485 --> 03:59:09,419 folks know that's coming in 5544 03:59:09,419 --> 03:59:10,287 evokes of questions about 5545 03:59:10,287 --> 03:59:13,287 resolutions I more than happy 5546 03:59:16,260 --> 03:59:17,361 to approach me in my office. 5547 03:59:17,361 --> 03:59:18,262 >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going 5548 03:59:18,262 --> 03:59:18,829 to mix it up and go to 5549 03:59:18,829 --> 03:59:20,697 supervisor lacroix. 5550 03:59:20,697 --> 03:59:22,697 >> Jeannie LaCroix: welcome 5551 03:59:22,866 --> 03:59:24,866 back everyone. 5552 03:59:31,275 --> 03:59:32,242 I have a handout. 5553 03:59:32,242 --> 03:59:32,910 I was a national night out as 5554 03:59:32,910 --> 03:59:34,211 well and I was in the car with 5555 03:59:34,211 --> 03:59:36,611 andrea and captain carter. 5556 03:59:45,622 --> 03:59:46,456 With so much fun I joined the 5557 03:59:46,456 --> 03:59:47,991 unity in the community at the 5558 03:59:47,991 --> 03:59:50,593 unity church that was a good 5559 03:59:50,593 --> 03:59:53,593 event when they had free 5560 03:59:56,633 --> 03:59:59,633 screening they were doing all 5561 04:00:00,804 --> 04:00:01,438 kinds of things and so I want 5562 04:00:01,438 --> 04:00:02,306 the whole word to get out 5563 04:00:02,306 --> 04:00:04,306 throughout the woodbridge 5564 04:00:10,800 --> 04:00:10,781 district we also went to bel 5565 04:00:10,781 --> 04:00:11,648 air mobile homes and that's 5566 04:00:11,648 --> 04:00:12,549 where I was able to bring the 5567 04:00:12,549 --> 04:00:13,250 welcome the woodbridge 5568 04:00:13,250 --> 04:00:14,685 community resource guide to. 5569 04:00:14,685 --> 04:00:18,285 I gave you all the completed 5570 04:00:24,394 --> 04:00:27,297 one it's bilingual on we tried 5571 04:00:27,297 --> 04:00:30,297 to make it woodbridge ringling. 5572 04:00:35,205 --> 04:00:35,739 It stays in woodbridge and if 5573 04:00:35,739 --> 04:00:37,474 you look in it and see we 5574 04:00:37,474 --> 04:00:38,142 missed something we will added 5575 04:00:38,142 --> 04:00:39,143 to it. 5576 04:00:39,143 --> 04:00:41,445 I hope it's a growing document 5577 04:00:41,445 --> 04:00:44,445 that stays local in emperor 5578 04:00:44,715 --> 04:00:45,382 folks 5579 04:00:45,382 --> 04:00:46,160 . 5580 04:00:46,160 --> 04:00:49,616 I visited the senior center and 5581 04:00:53,724 --> 04:00:54,391 the crisis center we had been 5582 04:00:54,391 --> 04:00:57,991 knocking on doors to ask of 5583 04:01:00,864 --> 04:01:01,765 them even though he was asking 5584 04:01:01,765 --> 04:01:03,834 him if we could take care of 5585 04:01:03,834 --> 04:01:05,202 picking up trash can help with 5586 04:01:05,202 --> 04:01:07,202 mowing the grass 5587 04:01:08,906 --> 04:01:09,606 , doing stuff 5588 04:01:09,606 --> 04:01:10,407 in front of them and on the 5589 04:01:10,407 --> 04:01:14,700 side of them so they been 5590 04:01:14,912 --> 04:01:15,913 really good at that. 5591 04:01:15,913 --> 04:01:19,183 The lacroix team went to the 5592 04:01:19,183 --> 04:01:19,883 beach. 5593 04:01:19,883 --> 04:01:20,617 I think all good supervisors 5594 04:01:20,617 --> 04:01:20,818 should bring their stock 5595 04:01:20,818 --> 04:01:22,818 to the 5596 04:01:29,693 --> 04:01:30,727 beach. 5597 04:01:30,727 --> 04:01:31,461 They were alone really good 5598 04:01:31,461 --> 04:01:32,329 spirited and they are young and 5599 04:01:32,329 --> 04:01:35,650 I'm trying to keep up with 5600 04:01:35,650 --> 04:01:37,650 them. 5601 04:01:38,735 --> 04:01:39,703 We were in lot of fun. 5602 04:01:39,703 --> 04:01:43,903 We have a new member of our 5603 04:01:45,242 --> 04:01:48,842 staff and it is the jamie 5604 04:01:48,846 --> 04:01:50,948 lacroix ice cream freezer. 5605 04:01:50,948 --> 04:01:52,948 Insupportable. 5606 04:01:56,453 --> 04:01:57,488 We go and we do town halls 5607 04:01:57,488 --> 04:02:00,220 because we know I don't draw as 5608 04:02:00,220 --> 04:02:00,157 many people as I screamed does 5609 04:02:00,157 --> 04:02:01,124 . 5610 04:02:01,124 --> 04:02:03,961 We will try to have something 5611 04:02:03,961 --> 04:02:04,895 there so we can help them and 5612 04:02:04,895 --> 04:02:08,495 talk to them and keep them 5613 04:02:09,833 --> 04:02:10,834 updated. 5614 04:02:10,834 --> 04:02:11,368 We have also done the ho a 5615 04:02:11,368 --> 04:02:12,236 roundtable with the 5616 04:02:12,236 --> 04:02:13,303 neighborhood services 5617 04:02:13,303 --> 04:02:15,303 transportation came. 5618 04:02:15,606 --> 04:02:17,606 Police came. 5619 04:02:17,974 --> 04:02:21,478 I don't know, did I appoint 5620 04:02:21,478 --> 04:02:25,780 will lorenz to the purchase and 5621 04:02:25,382 --> 04:02:26,830 development rights committee? 5622 04:02:26,830 --> 04:02:29,830 Finally we adopted trashy the 5623 04:02:30,621 --> 04:02:31,355 raccoon 5624 04:02:31,355 --> 04:02:31,955 . 5625 04:02:31,955 --> 04:02:32,556 It is something that is been 5626 04:02:32,556 --> 04:02:35,425 going on and we needed in the 5627 04:02:35,425 --> 04:02:35,659 woodbridge district 5628 04:02:35,659 --> 04:02:36,627 . 5629 04:02:36,627 --> 04:02:39,830 We went to the crab feast and 5630 04:02:39,830 --> 04:02:40,664 had a great time and finally, I 5631 04:02:40,664 --> 04:02:44,264 got back from vermont where I 5632 04:02:44,701 --> 04:02:45,736 was canoeing and hiking and 5633 04:02:45,736 --> 04:02:48,736 mountain biking in the mountain 5634 04:02:49,807 --> 04:02:50,841 biking did me in. 5635 04:02:50,841 --> 04:02:53,610 But it was a great time and I'm 5636 04:02:53,610 --> 04:02:54,611 going back to mountain biking. 5637 04:02:54,611 --> 04:02:55,145 >> Kenny Boddye: have a 5638 04:02:55,145 --> 04:02:55,378 question for supervisor 5639 04:02:55,378 --> 04:02:57,378 lacroix. 5640 04:02:57,948 --> 04:03:00,948 Did you name him MR. 5641 04:03:02,553 --> 04:03:05,553 Freeze because you need to. 5642 04:03:12,563 --> 04:03:13,697 >> what was the name again? 5643 04:03:13,697 --> 04:03:15,899 >> Chair Deshundra: I will go 5644 04:03:15,899 --> 04:03:16,967 to supervisor vega. 5645 04:03:16,967 --> 04:03:19,367 >> Yesli Vega: everyone has 5646 04:03:19,403 --> 04:03:20,436 missed me tremendously. 5647 04:03:20,436 --> 04:03:21,505 You can laugh now 5648 04:03:21,505 --> 04:03:22,473 . 5649 04:03:22,473 --> 04:03:24,473 Gosh. 5650 04:03:27,176 --> 04:03:28,378 i don't have anything. 5651 04:03:28,378 --> 04:03:28,645 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 5652 04:03:28,645 --> 04:03:29,913 angry. 5653 04:03:29,913 --> 04:03:32,883 >> Victor Angry: AUGUST was a 5654 04:03:32,883 --> 04:03:37,830 law so I won't go through all 5655 04:03:37,287 --> 04:03:42,870 that her what I will do is I 5656 04:03:43,727 --> 04:03:44,728 want to give my testimony. 5657 04:03:44,728 --> 04:03:45,729 There are two things I did in 5658 04:03:45,729 --> 04:03:47,731 AUGUST of that tie to what we 5659 04:03:47,731 --> 04:03:49,933 did in our proclamation today. 5660 04:03:49,933 --> 04:03:50,200 First of all, the adult 5661 04:03:50,200 --> 04:03:52,200 recovery. 5662 04:03:54,671 --> 04:03:55,639 That was significant for 5663 04:03:55,639 --> 04:03:58,639 congratulations to the six that 5664 04:03:58,809 --> 04:03:59,710 graduated from that. 5665 04:03:59,710 --> 04:04:00,310 We know everybody makes 5666 04:04:00,310 --> 04:04:01,780 mistakes on the fact that we 5667 04:04:01,780 --> 04:04:04,780 can recover through the court 5668 04:04:05,849 --> 04:04:06,783 process that allows you to be 5669 04:04:06,783 --> 04:04:09,183 law-abiding angry businesses is 5670 04:04:09,253 --> 04:04:09,386 fabulous 5671 04:04:09,386 --> 04:04:11,321 . 5672 04:04:11,321 --> 04:04:13,524 The second was on AUGUST 10 I 5673 04:04:13,524 --> 04:04:14,491 went and gave blood. 5674 04:04:14,491 --> 04:04:16,627 There is still a national 5675 04:04:16,627 --> 04:04:18,627 shortage. 5676 04:04:19,830 --> 04:04:20,531 Interestingly enough I can't 5677 04:04:20,531 --> 04:04:24,131 give blood because I'm a sickle 5678 04:04:26,103 --> 04:04:26,870 say it trait carrier. 5679 04:04:26,870 --> 04:04:28,138 As we did this proclamation 5680 04:04:28,138 --> 04:04:28,672 today want to tell my story why 5681 04:04:28,672 --> 04:04:31,408 that is so very important. 5682 04:04:31,408 --> 04:04:34,511 When I married my wife 36 years 5683 04:04:34,511 --> 04:04:35,445 ago, the united states army, 5684 04:04:35,445 --> 04:04:37,247 the first thing we did was we 5685 04:04:37,247 --> 04:04:40,847 have to take this test because 5686 04:04:41,919 --> 04:04:42,786 you heard in the data, sickle 5687 04:04:42,786 --> 04:04:45,255 cell is a high rate in 5688 04:04:45,255 --> 04:04:46,890 african-american or africans of 5689 04:04:46,890 --> 04:04:48,890 american dissent. 5690 04:04:48,392 --> 04:04:48,559 Birth rate 5691 04:04:48,559 --> 04:04:50,559 . 5692 04:04:52,629 --> 04:04:53,664 What does that really mean? 5693 04:04:53,664 --> 04:04:54,364 We are talking about two people 5694 04:04:54,364 --> 04:04:57,364 getting together and making a 5695 04:05:01,171 --> 04:05:01,839 baby. 5696 04:05:01,839 --> 04:05:02,873 My journey through that as I 5697 04:05:02,873 --> 04:05:04,741 have a 36-year-old son and 5698 04:05:04,741 --> 04:05:06,741 26-year-old daughter 5699 04:05:07,711 --> 04:05:09,711 . 5700 04:05:12,382 --> 04:05:13,830 my message here is simply this 5701 04:05:13,830 --> 04:05:16,683 week this is how we re-monitor 5702 04:05:17,788 --> 04:05:18,222 sickle cell anemia because you 5703 04:05:18,222 --> 04:05:20,222 get tested. 5704 04:05:21,225 --> 04:05:21,892 If you are a trait carrier you 5705 04:05:21,892 --> 04:05:23,600 cannot get with a trait 5706 04:05:23,600 --> 04:05:24,962 carrier. 5707 04:05:24,962 --> 04:05:27,865 My wife thankfully is not a 5708 04:05:27,865 --> 04:05:28,732 trait carrier. 5709 04:05:28,732 --> 04:05:30,701 It is important you get 5710 04:05:30,701 --> 04:05:33,701 yourself tested for sickle cell 5711 04:05:35,672 --> 04:05:35,906 trait 5712 04:05:35,906 --> 04:05:36,907 . 5713 04:05:36,907 --> 04:05:37,975 Lastly, the american red cross 5714 04:05:37,975 --> 04:05:41,575 is at a national shortage of 5715 04:05:41,912 --> 04:05:42,913 blood to. 5716 04:05:42,913 --> 04:05:43,113 If you can give blood, give 5717 04:05:43,113 --> 04:05:43,914 blood. 5718 04:05:43,914 --> 04:05:44,815 Platelets are just as important 5719 04:05:44,815 --> 04:05:45,749 because it helps fight off the 5720 04:05:45,749 --> 04:05:47,584 lot of the immunity you don't 5721 04:05:47,584 --> 04:05:50,530 have and so my message here is 5722 04:05:50,530 --> 04:05:50,254 simple 5723 04:05:50,254 --> 04:05:51,255 . 5724 04:05:51,255 --> 04:05:55,455 Go out and donate and go out 5725 04:06:00,163 --> 04:06:01,198 and get yourselves green. 5726 04:06:01,198 --> 04:06:02,199 >> Chair Deshundra: I would 5727 04:06:02,199 --> 04:06:03,233 like to appoint allison to the 5728 04:06:03,233 --> 04:06:05,633 social services advisory board. 5729 04:06:05,903 --> 04:06:07,838 You tigre town hall we attended 5730 04:06:07,838 --> 04:06:08,500 bricktown halls 5731 04:06:08,500 --> 04:06:08,972 . 5732 04:06:08,972 --> 04:06:13,110 There's going to be a lot of 5733 04:06:13,110 --> 04:06:13,243 them coming up in the fall 5734 04:06:13,243 --> 04:06:14,344 . 5735 04:06:14,344 --> 04:06:17,314 Supervisor notably on the pulse 5736 04:06:17,314 --> 04:06:18,282 is a discussions about setting 5737 04:06:18,282 --> 04:06:19,516 up a town hall in the proposed 5738 04:06:19,516 --> 04:06:20,417 transmission routes coming to 5739 04:06:20,417 --> 04:06:22,386 the principal district. 5740 04:06:22,386 --> 04:06:22,986 I'm 5741 04:06:22,986 --> 04:06:25,986 also doing a town hall 5742 04:06:26,857 --> 04:06:27,570 SEPTEMBER 28 5743 04:06:27,570 --> 04:06:28,580 . 5744 04:06:28,580 --> 04:06:29,590 We are still finalizing the 5745 04:06:29,590 --> 04:06:29,893 details of reimagining prince 5746 04:06:29,893 --> 04:06:32,293 william to facilitate a 5747 04:06:34,498 --> 04:06:34,731 discussion 5748 04:06:34,731 --> 04:06:35,499 . 5749 04:06:35,499 --> 04:06:38,499 Hearing from the community some 5750 04:06:39,303 --> 04:06:40,337 of the things they want to see 5751 04:06:40,337 --> 04:06:41,138 because the people of expressed 5752 04:06:41,138 --> 04:06:43,507 interest to go into work with 5753 04:06:43,507 --> 04:06:44,441 board members to get this teed 5754 04:06:44,441 --> 04:06:47,441 up and 91 echo what supervisor 5755 04:06:48,212 --> 04:06:49,120 bailey said. 5756 04:06:49,120 --> 04:06:49,746 She was a local legend and she 5757 04:06:49,746 --> 04:06:53,346 had done so much in our 5758 04:06:56,119 --> 04:06:57,870 community. 5759 04:06:57,870 --> 04:06:57,621 She was one of the founding 5760 04:06:57,621 --> 04:06:58,322 members of the national 5761 04:06:58,322 --> 04:06:59,256 coalition of 100 black woman 5762 04:06:59,256 --> 04:07:00,157 prince william county chapter 5763 04:07:00,157 --> 04:07:00,491 and she was a force to be 5764 04:07:00,491 --> 04:07:01,291 reckoned with. 5765 04:07:01,291 --> 04:07:04,891 And so that was a passing. 5766 04:07:06,163 --> 04:07:07,197 Some people think I will stay 5767 04:07:07,197 --> 04:07:09,700 with us forever but sadly that 5768 04:07:09,700 --> 04:07:11,768 is not true looking at her and 5769 04:07:11,768 --> 04:07:12,436 her service to the community, I 5770 04:07:12,436 --> 04:07:16,360 hope it continues to guide us 5771 04:07:56,114 --> 04:07:59,714 let's go ahead and take our 5772 04:08:09,928 --> 04:08:11,928 vote. 5773 04:10:26,528 --> 04:10:29,528 We are resuming our evening 5774 04:10:32,330 --> 04:10:32,801 session. 5775 04:10:32,801 --> 04:10:33,702 We don't want our young people 5776 04:10:33,702 --> 04:10:35,303 to MISS School so the principal 5777 04:10:35,303 --> 04:10:35,937 tigers were not able to come in 5778 04:10:35,937 --> 04:10:39,537 the 2 o'clock meeting so we are 5779 04:10:44,179 --> 04:10:44,813 going to begin with them we are 5780 04:10:44,813 --> 04:10:45,790 going to do a commendation for 5781 04:10:45,790 --> 04:10:45,780 this team. 5782 04:10:45,780 --> 04:10:46,348 And so if the students can join 5783 04:10:46,348 --> 04:10:46,982 us 5784 04:10:46,982 --> 04:10:47,549 . 5785 04:10:47,549 --> 04:10:51,749 If you could line up on the 5786 04:10:51,753 --> 04:10:55,353 side and the coaches, we will 5787 04:11:19,548 --> 04:11:20,315 begin with you all. 5788 04:11:20,315 --> 04:11:22,500 >> good evening. 5789 04:11:22,500 --> 04:11:23,180 Thank you MADAM Chair. 5790 04:11:23,180 --> 04:11:26,888 I am trying so hard not to 5791 04:11:26,888 --> 04:11:27,322 smile but I am very proud to 5792 04:11:27,322 --> 04:11:29,322 nine. 5793 04:11:31,560 --> 04:11:32,894 Not just to because these young 5794 04:11:32,894 --> 04:11:33,461 men represented principal high 5795 04:11:33,461 --> 04:11:35,861 school with pride and 5796 04:11:41,303 --> 04:11:42,303 integrity, but because my baby 5797 04:11:42,303 --> 04:11:42,938 who does not want me to 5798 04:11:42,938 --> 04:11:43,772 embarrass them but I am trying 5799 04:11:43,772 --> 04:11:47,972 so hard as a part of this 5800 04:11:49,100 --> 04:11:49,778 amazing group of human 5801 04:11:49,778 --> 04:11:50,278 . 5802 04:11:50,278 --> 04:11:50,979 Let me get right to it. 5803 04:11:50,979 --> 04:11:51,780 The board of county supervisors 5804 04:11:51,780 --> 04:11:52,514 would like to issue the 5805 04:11:52,514 --> 04:11:53,415 following proclamation. 5806 04:11:53,415 --> 04:11:56,415 The rental district I school 5807 04:11:57,719 --> 04:11:58,420 boys team demonstrated 5808 04:11:58,420 --> 04:11:59,254 exceptional skills going to 5809 04:11:59,254 --> 04:12:00,121 diminish, teamwork and 5810 04:12:00,121 --> 04:12:02,121 sportsmanship throughout the 5811 04:12:03,658 --> 04:12:04,326 2026 season. 5812 04:12:04,326 --> 04:12:06,726 The tigers capture diverse 5813 04:12:14,369 --> 04:12:15,403 regional championship since 5814 04:12:15,403 --> 04:12:16,104 1998 and earned their place in 5815 04:12:16,104 --> 04:12:17,380 the virginia high school league 5816 04:12:17,380 --> 04:12:18,373 class iii statement advancing 5817 04:12:18,373 --> 04:12:18,940 their postseason competition to 5818 04:12:18,940 --> 04:12:20,940 the state championship. 5819 04:12:23,311 --> 04:12:24,450 Principal advanced to the 2026 5820 04:12:24,450 --> 04:12:26,445 class iii state championship 5821 04:12:27,949 --> 04:12:28,817 game competing and finishing 5822 04:12:28,817 --> 04:12:32,417 the season of the class iii 5823 04:12:35,724 --> 04:12:36,391 state runner-up. 5824 04:12:36,391 --> 04:12:37,759 The accomplishments of the 5825 04:12:37,759 --> 04:12:38,293 students reflect the dedication 5826 04:12:38,293 --> 04:12:40,693 of the players, coaches, 5827 04:12:40,829 --> 04:12:41,563 families, school community and 5828 04:12:41,563 --> 04:12:42,330 supporters who contributed to 5829 04:12:42,330 --> 04:12:44,330 an outstanding season. 5830 04:12:49,400 --> 04:12:49,905 Be it 5831 04:12:49,905 --> 04:12:50,906 resolved the prince william 5832 04:12:50,906 --> 04:12:51,907 board of supervisors air by 5833 04:12:51,907 --> 04:12:52,841 commencing congratulates the 5834 04:12:52,841 --> 04:12:54,442 rental district boys high 5835 04:12:54,442 --> 04:12:55,710 school team for its outstanding 5836 04:12:55,710 --> 04:12:58,110 2026 season unremarkable run to 5837 04:13:00,882 --> 04:13:01,349 the class three state 5838 04:13:01,349 --> 04:13:02,150 championship game. 5839 04:13:02,150 --> 04:13:05,750 This achievement will be a part 5840 04:13:10,358 --> 04:13:10,659 of principal history and one 5841 04:13:10,659 --> 04:13:11,493 layer memo. 5842 04:13:11,493 --> 04:13:11,860 With pride for the rest of 5843 04:13:11,860 --> 04:13:12,527 their lives. 5844 04:13:12,527 --> 04:13:13,361 The board extends its best 5845 04:13:13,361 --> 04:13:14,329 wishes for continued success 5846 04:13:14,329 --> 04:13:14,529 bought both on and off the 5847 04:13:14,529 --> 04:13:15,497 field. 5848 04:13:15,497 --> 04:13:18,497 If you could please come 5849 04:13:19,367 --> 04:13:21,367 forward to. 5850 04:13:22,804 --> 04:13:24,804 [Applause] 5851 04:13:26,575 --> 04:13:30,775 Which one of you two would like 5852 04:13:36,251 --> 04:13:38,251 to speak? 5853 04:13:44,192 --> 04:13:44,926 >> I prepared something be 5854 04:13:44,926 --> 04:13:46,228 before we talked about winds 5855 04:13:46,228 --> 04:13:47,229 and championships anything that 5856 04:13:47,229 --> 04:13:47,896 happened on the field I want to 5857 04:13:47,896 --> 04:13:51,496 take a moment to talk about 5858 04:13:53,635 --> 04:13:54,669 what made the season special. 5859 04:13:54,669 --> 04:13:55,337 It was all the people behind us 5860 04:13:55,337 --> 04:13:55,971 all the way. 5861 04:13:55,971 --> 04:13:56,671 To our players want you to know 5862 04:13:56,671 --> 04:13:57,272 how proud I am. 5863 04:13:57,272 --> 04:13:58,140 He showed up every day, he 5864 04:13:58,140 --> 04:14:00,876 believed in each other and most 5865 04:14:00,876 --> 04:14:01,910 importantly we learned what it 5866 04:14:01,910 --> 04:14:04,513 means to be a part of something 5867 04:14:04,513 --> 04:14:05,447 bigger than yourself and you 5868 04:14:05,447 --> 04:14:08,447 give hope and believed upcoming 5869 04:14:11,860 --> 04:14:11,620 players for next year and the 5870 04:14:11,620 --> 04:14:12,254 future. 5871 04:14:12,254 --> 04:14:15,560 What you accomplished will be 5872 04:14:15,560 --> 04:14:18,656 remembered for a long time but 5873 04:14:24,332 --> 04:14:24,900 when you look back remember -- 5874 04:14:24,900 --> 04:14:25,834 you don't just remember the 5875 04:14:25,834 --> 04:14:26,835 trophies or scoreboard the gopi 5876 04:14:26,835 --> 04:14:28,436 remember the bus ride scuba 5877 04:14:28,436 --> 04:14:29,437 practices, locker room, 5878 04:14:29,437 --> 04:14:30,472 celebrations, difficult moments 5879 04:14:30,472 --> 04:14:32,374 and the people standing beside 5880 04:14:32,374 --> 04:14:33,408 you. 5881 04:14:33,408 --> 04:14:35,343 To our parents with in the late 5882 04:14:35,343 --> 04:14:35,544 nights, the rights to practice 5883 04:14:35,544 --> 04:14:36,444 , 5884 04:14:36,444 --> 04:14:40,440 the meals on the go and 5885 04:14:44,286 --> 04:14:44,986 everything else nobody else 5886 04:14:44,986 --> 04:14:45,453 sees thank you for trusting us 5887 04:14:45,453 --> 04:14:46,288 with your sons. 5888 04:14:46,288 --> 04:14:47,289 Be in a coaches incredible 5889 04:14:47,289 --> 04:14:49,689 responsibility and we never 5890 04:14:50,250 --> 04:14:51,260 take that lightly. 5891 04:14:51,260 --> 04:14:52,600 Your support allowed these 5892 04:14:52,600 --> 04:14:52,693 young men did she something 5893 04:14:52,693 --> 04:14:56,293 special and we are grateful for 5894 04:14:57,565 --> 04:14:58,500 that. 5895 04:14:58,500 --> 04:15:00,135 Let me skip some of this. 5896 04:15:00,135 --> 04:15:03,735 I wanted to thank coach rich. 5897 04:15:05,707 --> 04:15:06,374 Without him he made a special 5898 04:15:06,374 --> 04:15:09,144 for me to enjoy the game and 5899 04:15:09,144 --> 04:15:10,178 enjoy these young men. 5900 04:15:10,178 --> 04:15:10,812 i'm very proud of them and this 5901 04:15:10,812 --> 04:15:11,460 is the beginning of something 5902 04:15:11,460 --> 04:15:13,460 special 5903 04:15:14,349 --> 04:15:16,349 . 5904 04:15:19,200 --> 04:15:21,200 Go tigers. 5905 04:15:22,524 --> 04:15:24,893 >> for those wondering, rental 5906 04:15:24,893 --> 04:15:27,893 high school is in supervisor 5907 04:15:31,666 --> 04:15:32,667 gordy district him however, my 5908 04:15:32,667 --> 04:15:33,335 son lives in the coles district 5909 04:15:33,335 --> 04:15:34,636 and redistricting caused some 5910 04:15:34,636 --> 04:15:35,700 of my constituents 5911 04:15:35,700 --> 04:15:35,937 , some of my 5912 04:15:35,937 --> 04:15:37,806 kids to go to principal high 5913 04:15:37,806 --> 04:15:40,442 school so that's why we are 5914 04:15:40,442 --> 04:15:41,143 doing this together. 5915 04:15:41,143 --> 04:15:41,510 I see that they brought the 5916 04:15:41,510 --> 04:15:43,510 trophy. 5917 04:15:44,579 --> 04:15:46,979 Can you lifted up? 5918 04:15:49,518 --> 04:15:50,418 All right. 5919 04:15:50,418 --> 04:15:51,190 When we do have special 5920 04:15:51,190 --> 04:15:53,155 teammates not here with us 5921 04:15:53,155 --> 04:15:55,223 today because they are our 5922 04:15:55,223 --> 04:15:58,223 seniors actually now in college 5923 04:15:58,260 --> 04:15:59,294 . 5924 04:15:59,294 --> 04:16:03,494 Before we wrap up I would like 5925 04:16:04,166 --> 04:16:07,766 nick and nikki to come forward 5926 04:16:14,376 --> 04:16:15,430 . 5927 04:16:15,430 --> 04:16:18,430 This couple is noah kaufman's 5928 04:16:20,649 --> 04:16:21,650 parents and know what is not 5929 04:16:21,650 --> 04:16:22,584 here with us because he's away 5930 04:16:22,584 --> 04:16:25,987 at college doing what he loves, 5931 04:16:25,987 --> 04:16:26,954 which is playing soccer. 5932 04:16:26,954 --> 04:16:27,589 I want to brag about noah 5933 04:16:27,589 --> 04:16:27,989 because he accomplish so much 5934 04:16:27,989 --> 04:16:29,989 the season. 5935 04:16:36,865 --> 04:16:37,866 Senior midfielder noah coughlin 5936 04:16:37,866 --> 04:16:38,533 kicked off an outstanding high 5937 04:16:38,533 --> 04:16:39,501 school career with this best 5938 04:16:39,501 --> 04:16:41,901 season scoring 21 goals and 12 5939 04:16:44,773 --> 04:16:45,607 assists while demonstrating 5940 04:16:45,607 --> 04:16:46,341 exceptional leadership 5941 04:16:46,341 --> 04:16:46,842 determination and 5942 04:16:46,842 --> 04:16:47,642 sportsmanship. 5943 04:16:47,642 --> 04:16:48,176 Know what earned recognition as 5944 04:16:48,176 --> 04:16:51,176 a two-time first team all 5945 04:16:55,150 --> 04:16:56,117 district of first time all 5946 04:16:56,117 --> 04:16:57,185 region selection and concluded 5947 04:16:57,185 --> 04:16:58,487 his principal career with 38 to 5948 04:16:58,487 --> 04:16:59,488 goals and 24 assists. 5949 04:16:59,488 --> 04:17:00,621 Establishing himself as one of 5950 04:17:00,621 --> 04:17:01,490 the most accomplished players 5951 04:17:01,490 --> 04:17:02,900 in history of the tiger soccer 5952 04:17:02,900 --> 04:17:02,757 season. 5953 04:17:02,757 --> 04:17:04,926 Lead them to the first champion 5954 04:17:04,926 --> 04:17:05,927 ship since 1998. 5955 04:17:05,927 --> 04:17:06,561 It's first day tournament 5956 04:17:06,561 --> 04:17:08,561 appearances 2008 and an 5957 04:17:16,710 --> 04:17:17,500 appearance in the 2026 class 5958 04:17:17,500 --> 04:17:17,973 iii state championship game. 5959 04:17:17,973 --> 04:17:18,607 Intruding crucibles and assist 5960 04:17:18,607 --> 04:17:19,474 throughout the entire 5961 04:17:19,474 --> 04:17:20,475 postseason run begin 5962 04:17:20,475 --> 04:17:21,476 recognition of his outstanding 5963 04:17:21,476 --> 04:17:22,377 performance, leadership know 5964 04:17:22,377 --> 04:17:23,778 what was named the 2026 5965 04:17:23,778 --> 04:17:26,178 virginia high school league 5966 04:17:27,215 --> 04:17:30,815 class iii soccer player of the 5967 04:17:32,988 --> 04:17:34,489 year distinguishing himself 5968 04:17:34,489 --> 04:17:35,123 among the student-athletes but 5969 04:17:35,123 --> 04:17:35,724 the board of county supervisors 5970 04:17:35,724 --> 04:17:37,658 recognizes and congratulates 5971 04:17:37,658 --> 04:17:40,658 noah on being named the 2026 5972 04:17:40,829 --> 04:17:41,196 class iii boys player of the 5973 04:17:41,196 --> 04:17:43,196 year. 5974 04:17:44,332 --> 04:17:46,332 Ongratulations mom and 5975 04:17:54,743 --> 04:17:55,710 dad. 5976 04:17:55,710 --> 04:17:56,311 >> Chair Deshundra: we are 5977 04:17:56,311 --> 04:17:56,611 going to go outside 5978 04:17:56,611 --> 04:17:56,812 for the 5979 04:17:56,812 --> 04:17:57,412 photo. 5980 04:17:57,412 --> 04:18:01,120 If anyone else would like to 5981 04:18:29,763 --> 04:18:32,163 >> Chair Deshundra: we are 5982 04:18:32,900 --> 04:18:33,867 back. 5983 04:18:33,867 --> 04:18:34,568 That was such a heartwarming 5984 04:18:34,568 --> 04:18:36,568 moment. 5985 04:18:36,670 --> 04:18:37,404 Congratulations to your son. 5986 04:18:37,404 --> 04:18:38,237 We can't wait to see what they 5987 04:18:38,237 --> 04:18:39,473 do this soccer season. 5988 04:18:39,473 --> 04:18:41,473 Is a 5989 04:18:43,177 --> 04:18:44,378 reminder for people not here 5990 04:18:44,378 --> 04:18:46,778 for the 2 o'clock, 14 b 5991 04:18:49,810 --> 04:18:49,716 rezoning proffer amendment for 5992 04:18:49,716 --> 04:18:51,518 project industry. 5993 04:18:51,518 --> 04:18:51,618 That has been deferred 5994 04:18:51,618 --> 04:18:53,618 . 5995 04:18:55,322 --> 04:18:59,522 And so we will only be hearing 5996 04:19:00,930 --> 04:19:00,761 14 a tonight. 5997 04:19:00,761 --> 04:19:02,462 With that I'm going to invite 5998 04:19:02,462 --> 04:19:02,996 the applicant's representative 5999 04:19:02,996 --> 04:19:05,232 up to the podium for the 6000 04:19:05,232 --> 04:19:07,232 presentation. 6001 04:19:09,536 --> 04:19:11,536 >> MADAM Chair, supervisor 6002 04:19:14,241 --> 04:19:14,975 gordy, thank you for being here 6003 04:19:14,975 --> 04:19:19,175 to hear this case and I hope 6004 04:19:22,916 --> 04:19:26,516 you had a great summer break. 6005 04:19:27,287 --> 04:19:28,322 Wrong one. 6006 04:19:28,322 --> 04:19:28,489 I think I prefer not to do that 6007 04:19:28,489 --> 04:19:30,489 one. 6008 04:22:28,468 --> 04:22:29,369 >> Chair Deshundra: I'm sorry. 6009 04:22:29,369 --> 04:22:30,504 Is the problem with the 6010 04:22:30,504 --> 04:22:33,440 applicant's -- were is the 6011 04:22:33,440 --> 04:22:34,408 problem? 6012 04:22:34,408 --> 04:22:36,808 >> we didn't get the 6013 04:22:47,788 --> 04:22:48,822 presentation. 6014 04:22:48,822 --> 04:22:49,523 >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm 6015 04:22:49,523 --> 04:22:54,323 going to do is give the board a 6016 04:23:37,265 --> 04:23:37,865 >> Chair Deshundra: if the 6017 04:23:37,865 --> 04:23:41,435 applicant is ready, we can be 6018 04:23:41,435 --> 04:23:41,969 back to minutes early. 6019 04:23:41,969 --> 04:23:44,369 The floor is yours. 6020 04:23:47,441 --> 04:23:48,242 >> think you MADAM Chair. 6021 04:23:48,242 --> 04:23:52,442 I'm cory stupid on behalf of my 6022 04:23:53,714 --> 04:23:53,948 client 6023 04:23:53,948 --> 04:23:54,916 . 6024 04:23:54,916 --> 04:23:55,783 It is in the introduction that 6025 04:23:55,783 --> 04:23:58,783 is 23 acres give or take. 6026 04:24:02,990 --> 04:24:03,958 It's on warrington road. 6027 04:24:03,958 --> 04:24:06,600 Will show you the details. 6028 04:24:06,600 --> 04:24:09,660 It was re-planned by the board 6029 04:24:09,764 --> 04:24:10,765 to light industrial and it is 6030 04:24:10,765 --> 04:24:13,165 located in the burnsville 6031 04:24:14,969 --> 04:24:16,370 district. 6032 04:24:16,370 --> 04:24:17,905 And if you would indulge us for 6033 04:24:17,905 --> 04:24:22,105 a moment, I would like to the 6034 04:24:23,770 --> 04:24:23,678 applicant come forward and talk 6035 04:24:23,678 --> 04:24:26,678 about their business a little 6036 04:24:28,449 --> 04:24:29,183 bit, if that is okay. 6037 04:24:29,183 --> 04:24:31,583 >> good evening everyone and 6038 04:24:31,852 --> 04:24:32,887 thank you for your time. 6039 04:24:32,887 --> 04:24:36,123 My name is elder? They can see 6040 04:24:36,123 --> 04:24:36,491 I have six kids 6041 04:24:36,491 --> 04:24:37,124 . 6042 04:24:37,124 --> 04:24:37,959 I grew up in the area, but in 6043 04:24:37,959 --> 04:24:38,593 prince william county for 6044 04:24:38,593 --> 04:24:39,460 middle school, high school and 6045 04:24:39,460 --> 04:24:41,860 attended college around here 6046 04:24:41,863 --> 04:24:43,300 currently helping different 6047 04:24:43,300 --> 04:24:45,233 high schools with rustling. 6048 04:24:45,233 --> 04:24:47,902 All of my kids are going to 6049 04:24:47,902 --> 04:24:48,135 prince william county for their 6050 04:24:48,135 --> 04:24:50,135 schools. 6051 04:24:53,975 --> 04:24:54,976 We basically do screened 6052 04:24:54,976 --> 04:24:56,677 porches and we service the 6053 04:24:56,677 --> 04:24:56,811 community around here 6054 04:24:56,811 --> 04:24:58,811 . 6055 04:25:00,982 --> 04:25:01,682 I'm trying to be brief. 6056 04:25:01,682 --> 04:25:05,882 My wife is with me tonight and 6057 04:25:07,421 --> 04:25:08,422 so my dad is helping us my mom 6058 04:25:08,422 --> 04:25:09,323 was helping us deal with the 6059 04:25:09,323 --> 04:25:11,323 practices for tonight. 6060 04:25:14,950 --> 04:25:14,762 It's a family owned business 6061 04:25:14,762 --> 04:25:15,363 . 6062 04:25:15,363 --> 04:25:16,164 With my side of my family and 6063 04:25:16,164 --> 04:25:16,230 in-laws, everybody is involved 6064 04:25:16,230 --> 04:25:18,230 . 6065 04:25:20,268 --> 04:25:23,671 We do how to use, decks, 6066 04:25:23,671 --> 04:25:25,671 screened porches. 6067 04:25:27,800 --> 04:25:27,608 We work with composite decking 6068 04:25:27,608 --> 04:25:30,800 and things like that. 6069 04:25:30,678 --> 04:25:31,546 We also do stone masonry. 6070 04:25:31,546 --> 04:25:33,546 Exterior wood burning 6071 04:25:41,856 --> 04:25:42,223 fireplaces and stamped concrete 6072 04:25:42,223 --> 04:25:42,857 . 6073 04:25:42,857 --> 04:25:43,724 You can remember with us about 6074 04:25:43,724 --> 04:25:48,524 what we did it with the deck on 6075 04:25:49,597 --> 04:25:51,597 the patio. 6076 04:25:53,501 --> 04:25:54,902 And tilt you more, the main 6077 04:25:54,902 --> 04:25:58,502 reason was the way I believe 6078 04:25:58,940 --> 04:25:59,841 was to continue to grow if you 6079 04:25:59,841 --> 04:26:00,808 are not growing you are 6080 04:26:00,808 --> 04:26:01,409 shrinking and if you were not 6081 04:26:01,409 --> 04:26:03,809 shrinking you were dying. 6082 04:26:04,178 --> 04:26:07,778 We are required to store the 6083 04:26:07,815 --> 04:26:08,549 materials in their own property 6084 04:26:08,549 --> 04:26:11,549 to buy everything in service 6085 04:26:13,120 --> 04:26:14,210 our customers faster but in 6086 04:26:14,210 --> 04:26:17,621 concrete is going to take me 6087 04:26:17,892 --> 04:26:18,159 three weeks 6088 04:26:18,159 --> 04:26:19,126 . 6089 04:26:19,126 --> 04:26:19,794 I am not big enough for some 6090 04:26:19,794 --> 04:26:23,994 people and I am too small for 6091 04:26:25,566 --> 04:26:26,534 others picked the builders and 6092 04:26:26,534 --> 04:26:27,680 other things taking place, I'm 6093 04:26:27,680 --> 04:26:29,871 not priority so I can 6094 04:26:29,871 --> 04:26:30,872 officially run my business 6095 04:26:30,872 --> 04:26:31,572 picked being in but I meant to 6096 04:26:31,572 --> 04:26:33,674 materials on site I am able to 6097 04:26:33,674 --> 04:26:36,978 get to my work faster and thus 6098 04:26:36,978 --> 04:26:39,978 the reason we bought it. 6099 04:26:43,351 --> 04:26:46,921 I just didn't know the rules. 6100 04:26:46,921 --> 04:26:47,822 that's pretty much everything. 6101 04:26:47,822 --> 04:26:48,456 >> better than me. 6102 04:26:48,456 --> 04:26:49,157 They wanted to hear more from 6103 04:26:49,157 --> 04:26:51,157 you than me. 6104 04:26:53,227 --> 04:26:56,827 This site is close to the 6105 04:26:56,964 --> 04:26:57,865 county line and one thing -- I 6106 04:26:57,865 --> 04:27:01,465 have another slide but in order 6107 04:27:04,138 --> 04:27:04,972 to get to this site from 28, 6108 04:27:04,972 --> 04:27:05,439 you don't go through prince 6109 04:27:05,439 --> 04:27:07,439 william county. 6110 04:27:08,109 --> 04:27:08,743 You take a left out of the site 6111 04:27:08,743 --> 04:27:09,710 and it is a mile and 1/2. 6112 04:27:09,710 --> 04:27:12,680 That is how you access the site 6113 04:27:12,680 --> 04:27:16,280 for most people through an exit 6114 04:27:17,952 --> 04:27:19,952 on 28. 6115 04:27:20,540 --> 04:27:20,154 So this is the site 6116 04:27:20,154 --> 04:27:22,154 . 6117 04:27:24,926 --> 04:27:25,927 On the left not as though 6118 04:27:25,927 --> 04:27:28,327 prince william county public 6119 04:27:29,730 --> 04:27:29,931 safety training center 6120 04:27:29,931 --> 04:27:30,932 . 6121 04:27:30,932 --> 04:27:31,699 That is the truck were 6122 04:27:31,699 --> 04:27:33,734 supervisor vegas spent a little 6123 04:27:33,734 --> 04:27:35,734 bit of time. 6124 04:27:37,104 --> 04:27:37,371 To give you an idea 6125 04:27:37,371 --> 04:27:38,239 , before 6126 04:27:38,239 --> 04:27:41,239 this was re-planned by the 6127 04:27:43,440 --> 04:27:44,450 board, it was a perfect place 6128 04:27:44,450 --> 04:27:44,946 to put industrial and I will 6129 04:27:44,946 --> 04:27:46,347 show you the whole space in a 6130 04:27:46,347 --> 04:27:47,415 minute. 6131 04:27:47,415 --> 04:27:47,615 But you are right on the county 6132 04:27:47,615 --> 04:27:49,615 line. 6133 04:27:55,456 --> 04:27:55,723 Right over here 6134 04:27:55,723 --> 04:27:57,723 , right 6135 04:28:05,166 --> 04:28:05,533 down here is the solar farm 6136 04:28:05,533 --> 04:28:06,501 . 6137 04:28:06,501 --> 04:28:06,734 You will see this part of the 6138 04:28:06,734 --> 04:28:08,200 county. 6139 04:28:08,200 --> 04:28:08,603 There's a lot of nonconforming 6140 04:28:08,603 --> 04:28:09,370 uses because this whole area 6141 04:28:09,370 --> 04:28:10,370 hasn't been used for 6142 04:28:10,370 --> 04:28:12,740 agriculture in a long time and 6143 04:28:12,740 --> 04:28:15,740 so what happened overtime is 6144 04:28:16,844 --> 04:28:17,745 people are putting light 6145 04:28:17,745 --> 04:28:18,779 industrial uses in their and 6146 04:28:18,779 --> 04:28:22,979 you have that here and you have 6147 04:28:25,186 --> 04:28:26,187 it back here as well. 6148 04:28:26,187 --> 04:28:26,554 Here is the space, here is your 6149 04:28:26,554 --> 04:28:28,554 training center 6150 04:28:29,423 --> 04:28:30,391 . 6151 04:28:30,391 --> 04:28:32,791 Logan and heidelberg are 6152 04:28:33,761 --> 04:28:34,762 related. 6153 04:28:34,762 --> 04:28:37,162 Is a huge multinational 6154 04:28:38,466 --> 04:28:41,466 corporation now owned we are 6155 04:28:43,471 --> 04:28:44,438 located in germany. 6156 04:28:44,438 --> 04:28:47,438 Leah been holding onto this 6157 04:28:49,343 --> 04:28:49,577 property since the late 60s 6158 04:28:49,577 --> 04:28:50,545 . 6159 04:28:50,545 --> 04:28:50,711 Most of it is owned in what 6160 04:28:50,711 --> 04:28:52,711 one. 6161 04:28:53,481 --> 04:28:55,783 The biggest chunk of it the 6162 04:28:55,783 --> 04:28:58,783 reason they're holding onto it 6163 04:28:58,919 --> 04:29:02,557 is they try to get the sep to 6164 04:29:02,557 --> 04:29:04,959 do the when I first entered the 6165 04:29:04,959 --> 04:29:07,359 board in the early 2004. 6166 04:29:08,663 --> 04:29:12,263 But they are sitting on and 6167 04:29:12,800 --> 04:29:13,568 someday they will try it again. 6168 04:29:13,568 --> 04:29:16,604 You can see the space that we 6169 04:29:16,604 --> 04:29:17,338 are dealing with. 6170 04:29:17,338 --> 04:29:19,907 Gdp is simple and the reason is 6171 04:29:19,907 --> 04:29:24,107 there is no sewer, there is no 6172 04:29:25,120 --> 04:29:25,913 water right there is not a lot 6173 04:29:25,913 --> 04:29:28,483 that you can do with it but for 6174 04:29:28,483 --> 04:29:28,616 industrial that's okay 6175 04:29:28,616 --> 04:29:29,617 . 6176 04:29:29,617 --> 04:29:31,752 I am sure you are hearing about 6177 04:29:31,752 --> 04:29:31,919 this 6178 04:29:31,919 --> 04:29:32,487 . 6179 04:29:32,487 --> 04:29:35,487 There's a lot of small 6180 04:29:37,225 --> 04:29:37,892 contractors and businesses that 6181 04:29:37,892 --> 04:29:38,920 need a place to put their 6182 04:29:38,920 --> 04:29:38,759 stuff. 6183 04:29:38,759 --> 04:29:41,159 Nd the problem with 6184 04:29:42,960 --> 04:29:45,696 them to which is the light 6185 04:29:47,935 --> 04:29:48,569 industrial zoning category, 6186 04:29:48,569 --> 04:29:49,437 doesn't allow for outdoor 6187 04:29:49,437 --> 04:29:51,837 storage and equipment and 6188 04:29:52,807 --> 04:29:53,741 materials as a primary use but 6189 04:29:53,741 --> 04:29:54,408 out here that is pretty much 6190 04:29:54,408 --> 04:29:58,179 the only thing that you can do 6191 04:29:58,179 --> 04:29:59,130 and you set forth your stuff is 6192 04:29:59,130 --> 04:30:01,480 working on a zoning text 6193 04:30:01,480 --> 04:30:03,480 amendment 6194 04:30:06,454 --> 04:30:07,388 , but for now there's 6195 04:30:07,388 --> 04:30:08,322 a lotta people like this who 6196 04:30:08,322 --> 04:30:10,791 want to be able to store things 6197 04:30:10,791 --> 04:30:12,791 . 6198 04:30:12,927 --> 04:30:13,161 Some properties can use them to 6199 04:30:13,161 --> 04:30:15,161 . 6200 04:30:15,630 --> 04:30:16,230 it works for data centers but 6201 04:30:16,230 --> 04:30:19,100 it doesn't work for most 6202 04:30:19,100 --> 04:30:22,100 businesses give a smaller piece 6203 04:30:23,171 --> 04:30:26,171 of properties anyone to do 6204 04:30:26,874 --> 04:30:29,874 outdoor storage as an ancillary 6205 04:30:30,211 --> 04:30:31,112 use, it works for most 6206 04:30:31,112 --> 04:30:34,712 businesses it does not work and 6207 04:30:36,184 --> 04:30:36,417 that is the case 6208 04:30:36,417 --> 04:30:37,840 . 6209 04:30:37,840 --> 04:30:38,520 The m3 yard cites here. 6210 04:30:38,520 --> 04:30:42,252 This is the one they intend to 6211 04:30:44,826 --> 04:30:45,827 use this is warrington road. 6212 04:30:45,827 --> 04:30:48,227 They have additional yard 6213 04:30:48,729 --> 04:30:50,729 cites. 6214 04:30:51,532 --> 04:30:55,132 As a huge demand for outdoor 6215 04:30:55,536 --> 04:30:56,103 storage 6216 04:30:56,103 --> 04:30:58,103 , and absolute huge 6217 04:30:59,974 --> 04:31:00,975 demand. 6218 04:31:00,975 --> 04:31:02,877 Now they have an opportunity to 6219 04:31:02,877 --> 04:31:05,277 provide a solution for 6220 04:31:05,279 --> 04:31:06,214 themselves and they won't have 6221 04:31:06,214 --> 04:31:09,160 any problem trying to lease 6222 04:31:09,160 --> 04:31:11,416 this out further light 6223 04:31:14,789 --> 04:31:17,189 industrial humors or contract. 6224 04:31:17,925 --> 04:31:18,826 I'm colorblind so tell me if I 6225 04:31:18,826 --> 04:31:22,426 am wrong but in the turquoise 6226 04:31:23,331 --> 04:31:25,731 you will see it. 6227 04:31:29,971 --> 04:31:30,938 This is the industrial land you 6228 04:31:30,938 --> 04:31:32,373 re-planned in 2022 and here is 6229 04:31:32,373 --> 04:31:35,973 the pl, the public land you 6230 04:31:36,744 --> 04:31:37,478 public safety training center. 6231 04:31:37,478 --> 04:31:40,478 We went to the planning 6232 04:31:40,681 --> 04:31:40,915 commission 6233 04:31:40,915 --> 04:31:41,916 . 6234 04:31:41,916 --> 04:31:42,917 At that time the staff had some 6235 04:31:42,917 --> 04:31:43,451 concerns and we worked through 6236 04:31:43,451 --> 04:31:43,551 those 6237 04:31:43,551 --> 04:31:45,551 . 6238 04:31:48,656 --> 04:31:49,557 We made several changes on as a 6239 04:31:49,557 --> 04:31:51,957 result the staff is 6240 04:31:52,894 --> 04:31:53,794 recommending approval and it is 6241 04:31:53,794 --> 04:31:56,194 consistent with every chapter 6242 04:31:57,265 --> 04:31:59,265 the comprehensive plan. 6243 04:31:59,800 --> 04:32:02,200 This is the staff 6244 04:32:04,105 --> 04:32:07,105 recommendation we did all that. 6245 04:32:08,309 --> 04:32:11,379 We were consistent with I to in 6246 04:32:11,379 --> 04:32:12,380 reality. 6247 04:32:12,380 --> 04:32:12,647 We are adhering to the 6248 04:32:12,647 --> 04:32:14,647 standards. 6249 04:32:18,319 --> 04:32:21,556 This is de facto, but because 6250 04:32:21,556 --> 04:32:23,658 the zoning category doesn't 6251 04:32:23,658 --> 04:32:25,658 work 6252 04:32:28,629 --> 04:32:31,629 , 80 uses in emmett one we 6253 04:32:31,632 --> 04:32:35,832 have no use for those are going 6254 04:32:37,972 --> 04:32:41,309 to happen that is why with I 6255 04:32:41,309 --> 04:32:43,309 to. 6256 04:32:45,146 --> 04:32:45,480 We excluded data centers 6257 04:32:45,480 --> 04:32:46,800 . 6258 04:32:46,800 --> 04:32:47,715 We know that is a concern of 6259 04:32:47,715 --> 04:32:49,715 the community. 6260 04:32:52,320 --> 04:32:52,887 We proffered that out. 6261 04:32:52,887 --> 04:32:55,287 We updated the gdp. 6262 04:32:57,458 --> 04:32:58,459 There was 6263 04:32:58,459 --> 04:32:59,590 uncertainty the staff 6264 04:32:59,590 --> 04:33:02,590 identified that we wanted to 6265 04:33:06,801 --> 04:33:08,801 correct that. 6266 04:33:08,936 --> 04:33:09,700 All right 6267 04:33:09,700 --> 04:33:10,738 . 6268 04:33:10,738 --> 04:33:14,938 I wanted to end on, I know 6269 04:33:15,910 --> 04:33:16,944 christina is here but I wanted 6270 04:33:16,944 --> 04:33:18,212 to end on the recommendation 6271 04:33:18,212 --> 04:33:20,612 from economic development and 6272 04:33:23,317 --> 04:33:24,285 tourism this is the reason why. 6273 04:33:24,285 --> 04:33:27,622 There is a huge shortage in 6274 04:33:27,622 --> 04:33:31,222 omsk data center and is going 6275 04:33:32,693 --> 04:33:34,610 to keep those businesses more 6276 04:33:34,610 --> 04:33:36,731 than anything it keeps it in 6277 04:33:36,731 --> 04:33:37,865 the county in the job base 6278 04:33:37,865 --> 04:33:40,865 otherwise they have no choice 6279 04:33:42,203 --> 04:33:44,203 . 6280 04:33:46,674 --> 04:33:46,908 Have no choice 6281 04:33:46,908 --> 04:33:47,875 . 6282 04:33:47,875 --> 04:33:48,876 They park their equipment and 6283 04:33:48,876 --> 04:33:49,877 materials on the property in 6284 04:33:49,877 --> 04:33:50,878 residential neighborhoods where 6285 04:33:50,878 --> 04:33:53,614 they move out to the county. 6286 04:33:53,614 --> 04:33:56,614 This helps balance your tax 6287 04:33:58,219 --> 04:34:01,819 base and is consistent with the 6288 04:34:02,290 --> 04:34:03,291 strategic plan. 6289 04:34:03,291 --> 04:34:07,491 That's it and we are open for 6290 04:34:08,162 --> 04:34:09,263 any questions you might have. 6291 04:34:09,263 --> 04:34:09,763 >> Chair Deshundra: it looks 6292 04:34:09,763 --> 04:34:11,532 like my screen is down. 6293 04:34:11,532 --> 04:34:13,568 I can't even reloaded her 6294 04:34:13,568 --> 04:34:15,568 . 6295 04:34:16,404 --> 04:34:17,405 I'm going to look over here 6296 04:34:17,405 --> 04:34:18,506 first big supervisor, did you 6297 04:34:18,506 --> 04:34:22,430 have any thing you wanted to 6298 04:34:22,430 --> 04:34:22,977 say? 6299 04:34:22,977 --> 04:34:25,120 >> Tom Gordy: I will hold 6300 04:34:25,120 --> 04:34:26,130 questions for staff. 6301 04:34:26,130 --> 04:34:28,130 >> Chair Deshundra: does 6302 04:34:28,783 --> 04:34:29,317 anybody else have anything? 6303 04:34:29,317 --> 04:34:30,618 I am still down. 6304 04:34:30,618 --> 04:34:32,353 If you would like to come up 6305 04:34:32,353 --> 04:34:34,353 and present 6306 04:35:11,692 --> 04:35:12,426 . 6307 04:35:12,426 --> 04:35:13,227 >> good evening MADAME Turn 6308 04:35:13,227 --> 04:35:15,463 members of the board of 6309 04:35:15,463 --> 04:35:16,497 supervisors. 6310 04:35:16,497 --> 04:35:17,565 Do you want to finish resolving 6311 04:35:17,565 --> 04:35:21,200 the tech issue first would you 6312 04:35:21,200 --> 04:35:21,702 like me to begin? 6313 04:35:21,702 --> 04:35:24,102 My name is harrison. 6314 04:35:26,240 --> 04:35:26,841 I am the case planner for this 6315 04:35:26,841 --> 04:35:27,608 case and am going to go over 6316 04:35:27,608 --> 04:35:30,144 with you guys the history of 6317 04:35:30,144 --> 04:35:33,744 the case, what happened at the 6318 04:35:35,683 --> 04:35:36,551 planning commissioner level, 6319 04:35:36,551 --> 04:35:37,652 what issue they had, the 6320 04:35:37,652 --> 04:35:40,652 applicant interested in how we 6321 04:35:41,889 --> 04:35:45,489 got to where we are today. 6322 04:35:49,330 --> 04:35:50,264 Moving right along. 6323 04:35:50,264 --> 04:35:50,865 This is a rezoning for me one 6324 04:35:50,865 --> 04:35:51,766 agriculture to m1 heavy 6325 04:35:51,766 --> 04:35:54,766 industrial to allow for future 6326 04:35:57,605 --> 04:35:58,639 industrial uses in that 6327 04:35:58,639 --> 04:35:59,640 category and significant 6328 04:35:59,640 --> 04:36:00,308 portions will be leased out to 6329 04:36:00,308 --> 04:36:01,800 other industrial users will the 6330 04:36:01,800 --> 04:36:03,411 applicant is only going using a 6331 04:36:03,411 --> 04:36:05,179 small portion of the site. 6332 04:36:05,179 --> 04:36:08,179 's 23 acre properties stated on 6333 04:36:09,217 --> 04:36:12,217 more intent road.6 miles west 6334 04:36:12,587 --> 04:36:15,256 of the intersection with the 6335 04:36:15,256 --> 04:36:17,656 carriage ford road with 94? 07 6336 04:36:18,993 --> 04:36:21,393 ? 8472 and is addressed is 13 6337 04:36:22,129 --> 04:36:25,129 505 warrington road this is a 6338 04:36:25,500 --> 04:36:25,666 rounding site 6339 04:36:25,666 --> 04:36:26,767 . 6340 04:36:26,767 --> 04:36:29,767 Subject is surrounded by single 6341 04:36:31,339 --> 04:36:31,606 family residences 6342 04:36:31,606 --> 04:36:32,573 . 6343 04:36:32,573 --> 04:36:33,241 The north's undeveloped forest 6344 04:36:33,241 --> 04:36:36,841 in the east is the training 6345 04:36:37,612 --> 04:36:38,613 academy and solar farm. 6346 04:36:38,613 --> 04:36:39,213 The planning commission did 6347 04:36:39,213 --> 04:36:40,140 recommend approval with 6348 04:36:40,140 --> 04:36:42,140 specific recommendations, which 6349 04:36:44,418 --> 04:36:45,453 I will be covering in the 6350 04:36:45,453 --> 04:36:47,522 moment and stuff does recommend 6351 04:36:47,522 --> 04:36:47,622 approval 6352 04:36:47,622 --> 04:36:49,622 . 6353 04:36:50,591 --> 04:36:52,991 For full transparency, there 6354 04:36:53,528 --> 04:36:54,529 were public comments of the 6355 04:36:54,529 --> 04:36:56,297 planning commission hearing and 6356 04:36:56,297 --> 04:36:59,297 we received public comments as 6357 04:37:01,435 --> 04:37:04,435 well over email and other 6358 04:37:05,439 --> 04:37:06,140 submitted methods. 6359 04:37:06,140 --> 04:37:08,176 Going real quick on the future 6360 04:37:08,176 --> 04:37:10,110 land use map of the subject 6361 04:37:10,110 --> 04:37:13,611 property with a one zoning with 6362 04:37:14,315 --> 04:37:15,249 the inlet one vulcan land to 6363 04:37:15,249 --> 04:37:16,884 the north because he can see in 6364 04:37:16,884 --> 04:37:17,451 the future land use map it's 6365 04:37:17,451 --> 04:37:19,851 all surrounded by light 6366 04:37:20,121 --> 04:37:22,156 industrial the right next to 6367 04:37:22,156 --> 04:37:23,240 the public lands in the 6368 04:37:23,240 --> 04:37:25,424 training center is already 6369 04:37:27,695 --> 04:37:27,895 established 6370 04:37:27,895 --> 04:37:28,863 . 6371 04:37:28,863 --> 04:37:29,798 Moving along to the planning 6372 04:37:29,798 --> 04:37:31,798 commission hearing, staff 6373 04:37:33,234 --> 04:37:33,901 recommended denial due to the 6374 04:37:33,901 --> 04:37:34,969 following conflict of the 6375 04:37:34,969 --> 04:37:35,903 long-range land-use designation 6376 04:37:35,903 --> 04:37:37,672 due to the proposed use zoning 6377 04:37:37,672 --> 04:37:38,372 designation and hot and 6378 04:37:38,372 --> 04:37:41,142 omissions of the elements of 6379 04:37:41,142 --> 04:37:43,311 the gdp that prevented staff 6380 04:37:43,311 --> 04:37:43,411 conducting an analysis 6381 04:37:43,411 --> 04:37:45,411 . 6382 04:37:46,214 --> 04:37:46,948 Specifically with the last 6383 04:37:46,948 --> 04:37:49,948 part, it was considered a 6384 04:37:50,985 --> 04:37:51,752 bubble plan or doesn't show the 6385 04:37:51,752 --> 04:37:53,454 location of any structures or 6386 04:37:53,454 --> 04:37:54,155 uses are. 6387 04:37:54,155 --> 04:37:57,755 Just here is the land debate 6388 04:37:58,659 --> 04:37:59,627 and that's it. 6389 04:37:59,627 --> 04:38:00,228 When it was brought up to the 6390 04:38:00,228 --> 04:38:02,228 planning commission APRIL 2, 6391 04:38:02,296 --> 04:38:04,165 2026, the proposal was 6392 04:38:04,165 --> 04:38:05,199 recommended approval 6393 04:38:05,199 --> 04:38:07,199 . 6394 04:38:09,437 --> 04:38:09,704 These accommodations are the 6395 04:38:09,704 --> 04:38:10,270 following. 6396 04:38:10,270 --> 04:38:13,270 The applicant had to work 6397 04:38:13,708 --> 04:38:14,642 regarding the buffer system and 6398 04:38:14,642 --> 04:38:17,345 wind of the roads are laid out 6399 04:38:17,345 --> 04:38:18,120 regarding tree removal 6400 04:38:18,120 --> 04:38:18,579 , removal 6401 04:38:18,579 --> 04:38:19,847 of coal from the coal would 6402 04:38:19,847 --> 04:38:23,918 lumber yards as a use of the 6403 04:38:23,918 --> 04:38:24,585 application. 6404 04:38:24,585 --> 04:38:25,486 To work with the board of 6405 04:38:25,486 --> 04:38:26,487 county supervisors between the 6406 04:38:26,487 --> 04:38:28,389 planning commission meeting in 6407 04:38:28,389 --> 04:38:29,190 today's board of supervisors 6408 04:38:29,190 --> 04:38:30,825 meeting to see if there are 6409 04:38:30,825 --> 04:38:31,492 other items on the allowed uses 6410 04:38:31,492 --> 04:38:34,495 that are by right only and 6411 04:38:34,495 --> 04:38:36,998 allowed uses that would only 6412 04:38:36,998 --> 04:38:37,632 need a special use permit if 6413 04:38:37,632 --> 04:38:40,701 any of those need to be 6414 04:38:40,701 --> 04:38:41,335 removed. 6415 04:38:41,335 --> 04:38:42,336 Removing the silo for the 6416 04:38:42,336 --> 04:38:43,371 proffer statement and having 6417 04:38:43,371 --> 04:38:46,600 the locations of the buildings 6418 04:38:46,600 --> 04:38:47,410 were clearly stated. 6419 04:38:47,410 --> 04:38:49,243 Following up with the applicant 6420 04:38:49,243 --> 04:38:50,178 over the next few months, the 6421 04:38:50,178 --> 04:38:52,380 applicant made a significant 6422 04:38:52,380 --> 04:38:53,614 update to the application that 6423 04:38:53,614 --> 04:38:54,615 adequately addressed the 6424 04:38:54,615 --> 04:38:57,150 recommendations of the planning 6425 04:38:57,685 --> 04:39:00,354 commission as well as staff 6426 04:39:00,354 --> 04:39:00,521 identified weaknesses 6427 04:39:00,521 --> 04:39:01,455 . 6428 04:39:01,455 --> 04:39:03,324 Specifically they did remove 6429 04:39:03,324 --> 04:39:07,461 coal yards as a use, they were 6430 04:39:07,461 --> 04:39:08,496 quite substantial conformance 6431 04:39:08,496 --> 04:39:11,866 to the gdp, replace the 20 foot 6432 04:39:11,866 --> 04:39:12,667 landscape strip with the 50 6433 04:39:12,667 --> 04:39:13,701 foot buffer, clarify the 6434 04:39:13,701 --> 04:39:16,701 construction of a concrete silo 6435 04:39:20,141 --> 04:39:20,374 requires a future special use 6436 04:39:20,374 --> 04:39:21,275 permit. 6437 04:39:21,275 --> 04:39:22,243 The maximum building height 6438 04:39:22,243 --> 04:39:25,843 would be capped at 45 feet and 6439 04:39:26,800 --> 04:39:26,814 60 feet for a future silo. 6440 04:39:26,814 --> 04:39:27,682 The reason we are talking about 6441 04:39:27,682 --> 04:39:29,350 that hypothetical future silo 6442 04:39:29,350 --> 04:39:30,585 now is so they don't have to 6443 04:39:30,585 --> 04:39:32,752 come back for proper amendment 6444 04:39:32,752 --> 04:39:33,254 as well as for a special use 6445 04:39:33,254 --> 04:39:35,254 permit. 6446 04:39:35,456 --> 04:39:36,390 Limitations are added the 6447 04:39:36,390 --> 04:39:38,292 number and square footage of 6448 04:39:38,292 --> 04:39:38,392 any buildings 6449 04:39:38,392 --> 04:39:39,393 . 6450 04:39:39,393 --> 04:39:41,793 added maximum building location 6451 04:39:41,963 --> 04:39:44,265 envelope that I will point out 6452 04:39:44,265 --> 04:39:44,832 on the g bead the. 6453 04:39:44,832 --> 04:39:47,232 Required coronation on tree 6454 04:39:48,350 --> 04:39:50,435 removal and added minor 6455 04:39:53,740 --> 04:39:54,410 modification language. 6456 04:39:54,410 --> 04:39:55,376 Then as shown by the applicant, 6457 04:39:55,376 --> 04:39:55,943 we determined it is consistent 6458 04:39:55,943 --> 04:39:58,179 with all aspects of the 6459 04:39:58,179 --> 04:40:00,579 comprehensive plan pick moving 6460 04:40:01,582 --> 04:40:02,617 to the long-range land-use 6461 04:40:02,617 --> 04:40:05,170 committee updates the applicant 6462 04:40:07,221 --> 04:40:08,222 later consistent with the 6463 04:40:08,222 --> 04:40:09,223 land-use long-range land-use 6464 04:40:09,223 --> 04:40:10,691 designation which aligns with 6465 04:40:10,691 --> 04:40:12,930 land-use policy to an action 6466 04:40:12,930 --> 04:40:14,930 strategy 2.2. 6467 04:40:20,668 --> 04:40:21,636 Specifically it is meeting the 6468 04:40:21,636 --> 04:40:22,336 target building height, the 6469 04:40:22,336 --> 04:40:23,571 minimum open space expected, 6470 04:40:23,571 --> 04:40:25,971 the target nonresidential floor 6471 04:40:31,913 --> 04:40:32,146 to air ratio of up to 0.23 6472 04:40:32,146 --> 04:40:33,800 . 6473 04:40:33,800 --> 04:40:33,781 And then you could argue 6474 04:40:33,781 --> 04:40:36,250 outside the primary uses they 6475 04:40:36,250 --> 04:40:39,850 are asking for would fit under 6476 04:40:40,454 --> 04:40:41,455 the primary uses desired. 6477 04:40:41,455 --> 04:40:44,455 There still not doing the 6478 04:40:44,525 --> 04:40:44,692 implementation zoning seen 6479 04:40:44,692 --> 04:40:45,193 , 6480 04:40:45,193 --> 04:40:48,193 which would be in two. 6481 04:40:50,131 --> 04:40:51,650 However, they are proffering to 6482 04:40:51,650 --> 04:40:54,665 all the other aspects that we 6483 04:40:59,474 --> 04:41:00,475 would expect from that zone. 6484 04:41:00,475 --> 04:41:02,475 Just for clarification, 6485 04:41:03,440 --> 04:41:04,110 land-use policy states 6486 04:41:04,110 --> 04:41:05,120 densities and intensities that 6487 04:41:05,120 --> 04:41:07,412 promote patterns throughout the 6488 04:41:08,483 --> 04:41:09,417 county and tilt 2.2 states new 6489 04:41:09,417 --> 04:41:11,417 development application should 6490 04:41:13,200 --> 04:41:13,955 have densities appropriate to 6491 04:41:13,955 --> 04:41:14,956 the character and reason are 6492 04:41:14,956 --> 04:41:15,122 consistent with those reflected 6493 04:41:15,122 --> 04:41:15,957 on 6494 04:41:15,957 --> 04:41:18,192 the long-range land-use map. 6495 04:41:18,192 --> 04:41:18,960 Moving to next side to come I'm 6496 04:41:18,960 --> 04:41:22,560 not going to read through ever 6497 04:41:23,998 --> 04:41:25,320 use this is a list of all the 6498 04:41:25,320 --> 04:41:28,436 uses the property would be able 6499 04:41:28,436 --> 04:41:29,470 to do under the rezoning. 6500 04:41:29,470 --> 04:41:31,500 i segmented it out to different 6501 04:41:31,500 --> 04:41:32,390 categories for ease of analysis 6502 04:41:32,390 --> 04:41:35,639 pick the first section or uses 6503 04:41:36,177 --> 04:41:36,777 allowed both in the light 6504 04:41:36,777 --> 04:41:39,177 industrial and m1 heavy 6505 04:41:41,782 --> 04:41:42,717 industrial by right so even if 6506 04:41:42,717 --> 04:41:45,717 they decided they would still 6507 04:41:46,487 --> 04:41:47,155 be allowed to do all these uses 6508 04:41:47,155 --> 04:41:47,989 the following section are 6509 04:41:47,989 --> 04:41:50,389 allowed uses allowed a 6510 04:41:51,592 --> 04:41:54,428 secondary uses in the m2 and 6511 04:41:54,428 --> 04:41:55,129 that would be equipment 6512 04:41:55,129 --> 04:41:57,598 material which is the desired 6513 04:41:57,598 --> 04:41:59,998 use of the applicant. 6514 04:42:01,669 --> 04:42:02,670 This is called outside storage. 6515 04:42:02,670 --> 04:42:03,271 Moving along to the next 6516 04:42:03,271 --> 04:42:06,271 section we have allowed uses 6517 04:42:07,308 --> 04:42:10,908 that of a special use permit 6518 04:42:10,945 --> 04:42:11,479 one of them the fleet parking 6519 04:42:11,479 --> 04:42:15,790 which is a desired use of 6520 04:42:16,751 --> 04:42:18,386 applicant. 6521 04:42:18,386 --> 04:42:21,986 Arborough right in the m1 and 6522 04:42:23,491 --> 04:42:24,250 allowed uses in the m1 heavy 6523 04:42:24,250 --> 04:42:26,250 industrial. 6524 04:42:33,167 --> 04:42:34,167 The applicant has stated that 6525 04:42:34,167 --> 04:42:34,969 he plans to submit a future use 6526 04:42:34,969 --> 04:42:36,470 permit for a concrete 6527 04:42:36,470 --> 04:42:37,104 plan:property. 6528 04:42:37,104 --> 04:42:39,273 Lisa bill the uses allowed to 6529 04:42:39,273 --> 04:42:41,673 occur whether through the 6530 04:42:43,544 --> 04:42:44,345 business through another 6531 04:42:44,345 --> 04:42:47,345 business that leases out part 6532 04:42:53,421 --> 04:42:53,921 of the site. 6533 04:42:53,921 --> 04:42:54,121 Moving right along. 6534 04:42:54,121 --> 04:42:55,423 Oving to 6535 04:42:55,423 --> 04:42:56,424 a community design, the updates 6536 04:42:56,424 --> 04:42:57,458 addressed previously stated 6537 04:42:57,458 --> 04:42:58,493 omissions and uncertainty 6538 04:42:58,493 --> 04:43:02,930 providing a gdp that allows for 6539 04:43:03,998 --> 04:43:04,999 proper staff analysis. 6540 04:43:04,999 --> 04:43:05,666 The provision of additional 6541 04:43:05,666 --> 04:43:06,634 details includes the provision 6542 04:43:06,634 --> 04:43:08,536 of a building envelope, which I 6543 04:43:08,536 --> 04:43:10,137 will show you when I bring up 6544 04:43:10,137 --> 04:43:13,137 the gdp which restricts any 6545 04:43:15,710 --> 04:43:16,477 future building MAY be placed 6546 04:43:16,477 --> 04:43:17,378 maximum building square footage 6547 04:43:17,378 --> 04:43:20,378 is where only three buildings 6548 04:43:20,681 --> 04:43:21,716 can be 16,000 ft.? Smaller than 6549 04:43:21,716 --> 04:43:24,716 the mom picked it maximum 6550 04:43:26,954 --> 04:43:27,855 industrial square footage would 6551 04:43:27,855 --> 04:43:28,489 be restricted to the the 6552 04:43:28,489 --> 04:43:31,489 florida aired the ratio allowed 6553 04:43:34,795 --> 04:43:35,663 on the entire state does 6554 04:43:35,663 --> 04:43:37,663 encourage site architectural 6555 04:43:38,466 --> 04:43:39,467 signage and landscape designs 6556 04:43:39,467 --> 04:43:40,000 that complement the scale and 6557 04:43:40,000 --> 04:43:40,568 plan development in the 6558 04:43:40,568 --> 04:43:42,968 development area the rural 6559 04:43:44,172 --> 04:43:46,172 area. 6560 04:43:46,207 --> 04:43:50,407 There is the gdp I'm going to 6561 04:43:52,313 --> 04:43:56,513 zoom in because it is vain the 6562 04:44:01,956 --> 04:44:02,991 dotted line you see that is the 6563 04:44:02,991 --> 04:44:05,359 building envelope that they are 6564 04:44:05,359 --> 04:44:07,228 prophesying their activity they 6565 04:44:07,228 --> 04:44:10,828 can do can occur within the 6566 04:44:14,468 --> 04:44:16,468 dotted line envelope. 6567 04:44:16,470 --> 04:44:20,700 All wetlands areas are not in 6568 04:44:23,511 --> 04:44:24,212 limits a disturbance the 50 6569 04:44:24,212 --> 04:44:26,280 foot boundary line surrounding 6570 04:44:26,280 --> 04:44:29,280 the property and then moving 6571 04:44:30,651 --> 04:44:31,719 right along in the 6572 04:44:31,719 --> 04:44:34,119 recommendation of the planning 6573 04:44:39,494 --> 04:44:41,494 commission planning officer 6574 04:44:41,963 --> 04:44:44,363 commence approval of rezoning 6575 04:44:47,535 --> 04:44:48,469 24 001 subject of the proffer 6576 04:44:48,469 --> 04:44:51,469 is dated JULY 15, 2026 for the 6577 04:44:51,939 --> 04:44:52,607 following reasons 6578 04:44:52,607 --> 04:44:53,241 . 6579 04:44:53,241 --> 04:44:54,142 One update stuff determine the 6580 04:44:54,142 --> 04:44:55,143 applicant updates adhere to the 6581 04:44:55,143 --> 04:44:55,843 recommendations made as well as 6582 04:44:55,843 --> 04:44:57,843 sufficiently addressing 6583 04:44:58,246 --> 04:45:00,246 concerns stuff outlined 6584 04:45:01,816 --> 04:45:02,850 long-range end-use alignment 6585 04:45:02,850 --> 04:45:06,450 with the updates made make the 6586 04:45:08,589 --> 04:45:09,423 rezoning consistent with the 6587 04:45:09,423 --> 04:45:10,424 industrial the extrinsic to 6588 04:45:10,424 --> 04:45:11,920 when long-range land-use 6589 04:45:11,920 --> 04:45:11,926 designation that lies with 6590 04:45:11,926 --> 04:45:14,926 land-use policy to an action 6591 04:45:16,964 --> 04:45:17,965 strategy to not to pick 6592 04:45:17,965 --> 04:45:18,666 industrial development, 6593 04:45:18,666 --> 04:45:19,967 development of the industry is 6594 04:45:19,967 --> 04:45:22,967 is exclusive of data centers 6595 04:45:29,744 --> 04:45:30,778 aligns with 12.3 uncertainty 6596 04:45:30,778 --> 04:45:33,778 providing a gdp which allows 6597 04:45:36,717 --> 04:45:37,585 for proper staff analysis. 6598 04:45:37,585 --> 04:45:38,452 As well as an updated proffer 6599 04:45:38,452 --> 04:45:39,320 statement provide clarity 6600 04:45:39,320 --> 04:45:40,453 regarding the project 6601 04:45:40,453 --> 04:45:41,289 aspirations and commitments to 6602 04:45:41,289 --> 04:45:41,689 orderly development. 6603 04:45:41,689 --> 04:45:43,689 This aligns with 6604 04:45:44,959 --> 04:45:45,960 glenn policy enough to stop 6605 04:45:45,960 --> 04:45:48,960 presentation on them here to 6606 04:45:50,498 --> 04:45:50,865 answer any questions 6607 04:45:50,865 --> 04:45:51,833 . 6608 04:45:51,833 --> 04:45:52,867 >> Chair Deshundra: is this 6609 04:45:52,867 --> 04:45:53,100 your first time in front of us? 6610 04:45:53,100 --> 04:45:53,835 Boykin. 6611 04:45:53,835 --> 04:45:54,869 >> Chair Deshundra: 6612 04:45:54,869 --> 04:45:55,603 congratulations. 6613 04:45:55,603 --> 04:45:56,604 Spoke first on presenting. 6614 04:45:56,604 --> 04:45:59,400 I was here for a consolidated 6615 04:45:59,400 --> 04:46:01,440 case a while ago. 6616 04:46:03,978 --> 04:46:05,120 >> Chair Deshundra: tom? 6617 04:46:05,120 --> 04:46:05,346 >> Tom Gordy: thank you for the 6618 04:46:05,346 --> 04:46:07,346 presentation. 6619 04:46:08,950 --> 04:46:09,984 Good job will not. 6620 04:46:09,984 --> 04:46:14,184 Could you go back to the sleigh 6621 04:46:22,290 --> 04:46:22,697 were dark so the comparisons it 6622 04:46:22,697 --> 04:46:23,698 upsets understand the nature of 6623 04:46:23,698 --> 04:46:27,298 the complexity of how we are 6624 04:46:28,102 --> 04:46:29,170 trying to get to the intent is 6625 04:46:29,170 --> 04:46:32,770 was stein designed in the comp 6626 04:46:35,343 --> 04:46:35,543 plan because the limitations 6627 04:46:35,543 --> 04:46:36,177 , 6628 04:46:36,177 --> 04:46:38,412 the fact it does not allow 6629 04:46:38,412 --> 04:46:41,412 outdoor storage, it really does 6630 04:46:41,449 --> 04:46:44,449 adversely affect the ability to 6631 04:46:46,454 --> 04:46:47,421 meet the comp plan to allow 6632 04:46:47,421 --> 04:46:49,323 outdoor storage as a primary 6633 04:46:49,323 --> 04:46:49,423 use 6634 04:46:49,423 --> 04:46:51,423 . 6635 04:46:59,300 --> 04:47:03,500 If you don't mind this is a 6636 04:47:04,205 --> 04:47:07,805 great slide to show there are 6637 04:47:11,780 --> 04:47:12,460 pretty intense uses makinde 6638 04:47:12,460 --> 04:47:12,947 been utilized but this is a 6639 04:47:12,947 --> 04:47:15,716 much, would you describe this 6640 04:47:15,716 --> 04:47:18,716 activity is much less intensive 6641 04:47:19,854 --> 04:47:20,488 and industrial use in some of 6642 04:47:20,488 --> 04:47:24,880 the things that can be allowed 6643 04:47:25,626 --> 04:47:26,661 to by right? 6644 04:47:26,661 --> 04:47:27,361 >> if you're looking at 6645 04:47:27,361 --> 04:47:27,829 distribution fulfillment 6646 04:47:27,829 --> 04:47:28,290 centers I would say. 6647 04:47:28,290 --> 04:47:30,290 That 6648 04:47:30,865 --> 04:47:31,899 would be a great example. 6649 04:47:31,899 --> 04:47:32,366 >> in terms of the 6650 04:47:32,366 --> 04:47:33,501 transportation aspect 6651 04:47:33,501 --> 04:47:35,501 : can you 6652 04:47:40,241 --> 04:47:42,241 explain describe the 6653 04:47:43,444 --> 04:47:45,444 transportation requirements as 6654 04:47:49,250 --> 04:47:50,250 it relates to activities 6655 04:47:50,250 --> 04:47:51,285 >> what we have on the proffer 6656 04:47:51,285 --> 04:47:51,352 statement 6657 04:47:51,352 --> 04:47:53,352 . 6658 04:47:56,230 --> 04:47:56,491 Proffer 23 they have or intend 6659 04:47:56,491 --> 04:47:58,491 road application. 6660 04:47:59,930 --> 04:48:00,610 The applicant shall be required 6661 04:48:00,610 --> 04:48:02,830 to pave warrington road but 6662 04:48:02,830 --> 04:48:03,664 after construction is complete 6663 04:48:03,664 --> 04:48:04,665 or at the request of the 6664 04:48:04,665 --> 04:48:06,665 department transportation 6665 04:48:08,536 --> 04:48:09,470 restore warrington road equal 6666 04:48:09,470 --> 04:48:10,471 to the preconstruction 6667 04:48:10,471 --> 04:48:12,871 condition compliance shall be 6668 04:48:12,907 --> 04:48:13,608 devastated prior to final 6669 04:48:13,608 --> 04:48:14,542 inspection required approval by 6670 04:48:14,542 --> 04:48:16,942 the prince william county 6671 04:48:18,613 --> 04:48:18,846 department of transportation 6672 04:48:18,846 --> 04:48:19,847 . 6673 04:48:19,847 --> 04:48:20,848 And I am not sure if there is 6674 04:48:20,848 --> 04:48:23,248 anyone from transportation here 6675 04:48:27,822 --> 04:48:28,589 tonight. 6676 04:48:28,589 --> 04:48:29,157 >> Tom Gordy: warrington road 6677 04:48:29,157 --> 04:48:31,259 is a dirt road. 6678 04:48:31,259 --> 04:48:33,659 It is fairly wide. 6679 04:48:37,265 --> 04:48:38,232 I can't remember what we call 6680 04:48:38,232 --> 04:48:38,933 the pave in-place program, but 6681 04:48:38,933 --> 04:48:41,933 there are some issues related 6682 04:48:47,474 --> 04:48:48,376 to that for warrington road to. 6683 04:48:48,376 --> 04:48:51,976 In terms of the ingress and 6684 04:48:53,147 --> 04:48:54,182 egress as it compares to 28 6685 04:48:54,182 --> 04:48:57,182 because the applicant made any 6686 04:49:00,655 --> 04:49:01,355 commitments to use the 28 6687 04:49:01,355 --> 04:49:04,355 ingress egress as opposed to 6688 04:49:05,293 --> 04:49:05,993 carriage road? 6689 04:49:05,993 --> 04:49:08,993 >> not to my knowledge they 6690 04:49:11,132 --> 04:49:12,165 proffer access on their gdp and 6691 04:49:12,165 --> 04:49:14,165 they have right-of-way 6692 04:49:15,203 --> 04:49:15,736 dedication they are going to be 6693 04:49:15,736 --> 04:49:17,736 providing a 20 foot 6694 04:49:18,940 --> 04:49:21,742 right-of-way at no cost to 6695 04:49:21,742 --> 04:49:21,843 prince william county 6696 04:49:21,843 --> 04:49:23,843 . 6697 04:49:25,780 --> 04:49:26,714 But in terms of proffering to 6698 04:49:26,714 --> 04:49:27,148 only of trucks go in and out 6699 04:49:27,148 --> 04:49:29,148 the other route 28 6700 04:49:29,650 --> 04:49:32,500 intersection, to my knowledge 6701 04:49:35,523 --> 04:49:36,424 there is no discussion and I 6702 04:49:36,424 --> 04:49:37,580 don't believe that was 6703 04:49:37,580 --> 04:49:38,426 discussed by our transportation 6704 04:49:38,426 --> 04:49:39,527 department. 6705 04:49:39,527 --> 04:49:40,161 >> Tom Gordy: do we know what 6706 04:49:40,161 --> 04:49:42,561 the transportation counts look 6707 04:49:43,964 --> 04:49:45,964 like 6708 04:49:46,330 --> 04:49:48,330 ? 6709 04:49:49,300 --> 04:49:52,603 >> I think we do have it 62 6710 04:49:56,511 --> 04:49:57,245 daily trips. 6711 04:49:57,245 --> 04:49:57,645 >> Tom Gordy: that is all I 6712 04:49:57,645 --> 04:49:58,646 have for now. 6713 04:49:58,646 --> 04:49:59,747 >> Chair Deshundra: I want to 6714 04:49:59,747 --> 04:50:00,515 jump in because one of the 6715 04:50:00,515 --> 04:50:03,500 questions I've gotten is why is 6716 04:50:03,500 --> 04:50:06,500 there no cpa for this 6717 04:50:07,822 --> 04:50:08,489 application? 6718 04:50:08,489 --> 04:50:09,290 >> that decision was made 6719 04:50:09,290 --> 04:50:12,290 before I inherited this case 6720 04:50:14,495 --> 04:50:19,295 and I would like to send it to 6721 04:50:20,835 --> 04:50:21,836 MR. Mcgettigan to explain the 6722 04:50:21,836 --> 04:50:24,236 >> david Mcgettigan from the 6723 04:50:24,705 --> 04:50:24,839 planning office 6724 04:50:24,839 --> 04:50:26,839 . 6725 04:50:36,651 --> 04:50:39,651 Harrison is a tall guy. 6726 04:50:40,955 --> 04:50:41,823 When we came with the 6727 04:50:41,823 --> 04:50:43,823 long-range land-use 6728 04:50:45,560 --> 04:50:45,893 classification 6729 04:50:45,893 --> 04:50:46,828 , it was 6730 04:50:46,828 --> 04:50:50,428 recognized that the time and we 6731 04:50:51,232 --> 04:50:52,266 had the board initiate zoning 6732 04:50:52,266 --> 04:50:54,902 text amendment to look at the 6733 04:50:54,902 --> 04:50:57,902 zoning to better match zoning 6734 04:51:06,614 --> 04:51:07,582 with the intent of the eye to. 6735 04:51:07,582 --> 04:51:08,616 That is included in the zoning 6736 04:51:08,616 --> 04:51:11,180 ordinance that we are going to 6737 04:51:11,180 --> 04:51:11,117 provide that zoning ordinance 6738 04:51:11,117 --> 04:51:13,117 . 6739 04:51:13,588 --> 04:51:17,188 As an interim use the mount 6740 04:51:19,627 --> 04:51:20,161 dora storage is a perfect 6741 04:51:20,161 --> 04:51:22,161 land-use out here. 6742 04:51:26,300 --> 04:51:27,301 It is lower intensity. 6743 04:51:27,301 --> 04:51:30,338 It doesn't have a law that 6744 04:51:30,338 --> 04:51:33,338 buildings and impacts to water 6745 04:51:36,811 --> 04:51:37,512 and sewer infrastructure. 6746 04:51:37,512 --> 04:51:38,446 This is the sort of use we are 6747 04:51:38,446 --> 04:51:42,460 wanting but it is not allowed 6748 04:51:44,485 --> 04:51:45,152 in the district and we are only 6749 04:51:45,152 --> 04:51:46,200 limited to that when you're 6750 04:51:46,200 --> 04:51:49,200 putting together the chart to 6751 04:51:56,831 --> 04:51:57,832 what zoning districts much. 6752 04:51:57,832 --> 04:51:58,432 We wanted something else and 6753 04:51:58,432 --> 04:51:59,366 that's what we had the board 6754 04:51:59,366 --> 04:52:00,368 initiate the text amendment and 6755 04:52:00,368 --> 04:52:00,535 at the same time they approved 6756 04:52:00,535 --> 04:52:02,535 the 6757 04:52:04,472 --> 04:52:05,473 competency plan. 6758 04:52:05,473 --> 04:52:09,673 How we are handling it is use 6759 04:52:13,481 --> 04:52:17,510 the use of proffering out what 6760 04:52:17,510 --> 04:52:19,587 we intend them to do through 6761 04:52:19,587 --> 04:52:21,587 the rezoning. 6762 04:52:25,226 --> 04:52:29,564 That is why this is the path to 6763 04:52:29,564 --> 04:52:30,598 implement a comprehensive plan 6764 04:52:30,598 --> 04:52:33,167 the conference a plan amendment 6765 04:52:33,167 --> 04:52:33,267 isn't necessary 6766 04:52:33,267 --> 04:52:35,267 . 6767 04:52:38,506 --> 04:52:40,140 This is not going, we wouldn't 6768 04:52:40,140 --> 04:52:40,241 want to change it away 6769 04:52:40,241 --> 04:52:42,109 . 6770 04:52:42,109 --> 04:52:45,109 It's what we want their 6771 04:52:46,682 --> 04:52:47,682 . 6772 04:52:47,682 --> 04:52:48,983 That's why we want a low fa are 6773 04:52:48,983 --> 04:52:50,983 in here. 6774 04:52:57,925 --> 04:52:58,910 No data centers recommended 6775 04:52:58,910 --> 04:52:59,600 . 6776 04:52:59,600 --> 04:52:59,494 We don't want data centers out 6777 04:52:59,494 --> 04:53:01,494 here. 6778 04:53:06,434 --> 04:53:07,368 The kind of use we want, the 6779 04:53:07,368 --> 04:53:08,302 kind of use we want under our 6780 04:53:08,302 --> 04:53:10,702 current zoning ordinance that 6781 04:53:12,173 --> 04:53:12,373 best matches 6782 04:53:12,373 --> 04:53:13,407 . 6783 04:53:13,407 --> 04:53:13,875 We don't want to change the 6784 04:53:13,875 --> 04:53:14,375 comprehensive plan. 6785 04:53:14,375 --> 04:53:15,276 His is 6786 04:53:15,276 --> 04:53:17,276 implementing the comprehensive 6787 04:53:22,450 --> 04:53:22,950 plan we are just having to do 6788 04:53:22,950 --> 04:53:23,484 it with the old zoning 6789 04:53:23,484 --> 04:53:25,884 ordinance to meet the 6790 04:53:29,223 --> 04:53:29,724 comprehensive plan requirements 6791 04:53:29,724 --> 04:53:30,591 . 6792 04:53:30,591 --> 04:53:31,592 >> Chair Deshundra: are you 6793 04:53:31,592 --> 04:53:32,360 concerned at all about setting 6794 04:53:32,360 --> 04:53:33,194 precedents or is this something 6795 04:53:33,194 --> 04:53:34,362 that you think in future land 6796 04:53:34,362 --> 04:53:37,962 use cases you MAY be waving 6797 04:53:38,766 --> 04:53:39,567 that with what is envisioned in 6798 04:53:39,567 --> 04:53:41,567 the comprehensive plan. 6799 04:53:47,308 --> 04:53:48,420 >> I think the way that they 6800 04:53:48,420 --> 04:53:48,910 proffer the uses and that they 6801 04:53:48,910 --> 04:53:49,760 sort of met the intent 6802 04:53:49,760 --> 04:53:50,440 . 6803 04:53:50,440 --> 04:53:53,281 I don't think it would set a 6804 04:53:53,281 --> 04:53:56,281 precedent until it MAY be 6805 04:53:58,219 --> 04:53:59,530 something that occurs between 6806 04:53:59,530 --> 04:54:01,220 now and when we fix the 6807 04:54:01,220 --> 04:54:01,656 industrial zoning district. 6808 04:54:01,656 --> 04:54:05,256 But once we get the zoning 6809 04:54:07,161 --> 04:54:07,795 district fix 6810 04:54:07,795 --> 04:54:09,795 , there shouldn't 6811 04:54:10,531 --> 04:54:10,765 be any more need to do this 6812 04:54:10,765 --> 04:54:11,766 . 6813 04:54:11,766 --> 04:54:13,340 >> Chair Deshundra: so it is a 6814 04:54:13,340 --> 04:54:13,768 one off? 6815 04:54:13,768 --> 04:54:15,570 Supervisor boddye. 6816 04:54:15,570 --> 04:54:18,570 >> Kenny Boddye: go into follow 6817 04:54:19,340 --> 04:54:22,443 the same beat thank you dave or 6818 04:54:22,443 --> 04:54:23,177 how you described that. 6819 04:54:23,177 --> 04:54:26,777 I will restate my question to 6820 04:54:29,830 --> 04:54:29,617 what you just said. 6821 04:54:29,617 --> 04:54:30,351 You are looking at 6822 04:54:30,351 --> 04:54:31,185 compatibility coming to you 6823 04:54:31,185 --> 04:54:31,819 only look at use or did you 6824 04:54:31,819 --> 04:54:35,419 look at a wider variety of 6825 04:54:39,994 --> 04:54:40,995 factors 6826 04:54:40,995 --> 04:54:41,629 >> we do have recommendations 6827 04:54:41,629 --> 04:54:44,290 and therefore zoning districts 6828 04:54:46,566 --> 04:54:47,268 that would they be compatible 6829 04:54:47,268 --> 04:54:48,169 but we are working with an old 6830 04:54:48,169 --> 04:54:49,700 zoning ordinance on new ideas 6831 04:54:49,700 --> 04:54:51,470 and the comprehensive plan. 6832 04:54:52,673 --> 04:54:55,443 Hat is an imperfect match we 6833 04:54:55,443 --> 04:54:56,410 had to make at the time. 6834 04:54:56,410 --> 04:55:00,100 We look at other things and 6835 04:55:00,470 --> 04:55:02,447 they are including very 6836 04:55:03,251 --> 04:55:04,151 importantly the height of the 6837 04:55:04,151 --> 04:55:07,751 fa are the transect in the 6838 04:55:09,824 --> 04:55:10,658 conference a plan they have a 6839 04:55:10,658 --> 04:55:13,658 low fa are in height 6840 04:55:15,129 --> 04:55:15,830 requirement. 6841 04:55:15,830 --> 04:55:16,797 >> to your point as harrison 6842 04:55:16,797 --> 04:55:17,899 said, there was a decision 6843 04:55:17,899 --> 04:55:21,499 point whither should we go with 6844 04:55:22,170 --> 04:55:23,104 the cp or should we not based 6845 04:55:23,104 --> 04:55:26,941 on what the vision was of not 6846 04:55:26,941 --> 04:55:27,542 only the board but you were 6847 04:55:27,542 --> 04:55:29,942 planning commissioner of the 6848 04:55:30,144 --> 04:55:30,278 time 6849 04:55:30,278 --> 04:55:31,450 . 6850 04:55:31,450 --> 04:55:31,312 the thought of what this would 6851 04:55:31,312 --> 04:55:33,312 be. 6852 04:55:37,385 --> 04:55:38,119 Like you just said, the 6853 04:55:38,119 --> 04:55:41,719 decision was this what I want 6854 04:55:42,230 --> 04:55:43,724 to be a comp plan because that 6855 04:55:43,724 --> 04:55:46,124 goes against the lighter 6856 04:55:47,160 --> 04:55:47,795 industrial envisioned by the 6857 04:55:47,795 --> 04:55:50,195 planning commission and the 6858 04:55:51,265 --> 04:55:54,865 board when you adopted the comp 6859 04:55:55,236 --> 04:55:56,404 plan. 6860 04:55:56,404 --> 04:55:58,804 Wanted to ask christina 6861 04:56:03,377 --> 04:56:04,378 . 6862 04:56:04,378 --> 04:56:05,980 If christina wanted to add 6863 04:56:05,980 --> 04:56:07,980 anything. 6864 04:56:09,484 --> 04:56:10,840 MR. Stewart spoke to the high 6865 04:56:10,840 --> 04:56:13,840 points with economic need and 6866 04:56:15,890 --> 04:56:16,557 to the point on the fact that 6867 04:56:16,557 --> 04:56:17,492 these types the yards were you 6868 04:56:17,492 --> 04:56:19,892 have contractors and other 6869 04:56:20,761 --> 04:56:21,395 businesses that don't have 6870 04:56:21,395 --> 04:56:21,629 places to go in the county. 6871 04:56:21,629 --> 04:56:23,629 And you. 6872 04:56:26,501 --> 04:56:27,100 > Kenny Boddye: that? 6873 04:56:27,100 --> 04:56:28,200 >> absolutely. 6874 04:56:28,200 --> 04:56:30,402 Christina, director of economic 6875 04:56:32,473 --> 04:56:33,740 development and tourism. 6876 04:56:33,740 --> 04:56:35,676 This is exactly the type of 6877 04:56:35,676 --> 04:56:38,676 project and use we are 6878 04:56:41,482 --> 04:56:43,584 desperately in need of. 6879 04:56:43,584 --> 04:56:44,552 We are getting inquiries and 6880 04:56:44,552 --> 04:56:46,952 leads from small contractor 6881 04:56:48,220 --> 04:56:49,230 businesses that need the 6882 04:56:49,230 --> 04:56:52,560 outdoor storage and it is very 6883 04:56:52,560 --> 04:56:53,600 challenging to find them a 6884 04:56:53,600 --> 04:56:55,600 saint affordable. 6885 04:56:55,229 --> 04:56:58,229 It was great speaking with 6886 04:56:58,432 --> 04:57:01,432 elder and his family because 6887 04:57:02,300 --> 04:57:03,400 one of the things is to 6888 04:57:03,400 --> 04:57:06,400 understand as a small business 6889 04:57:12,380 --> 04:57:13,314 owner, 6890 04:57:13,314 --> 04:57:14,182 , they are always looking 6891 04:57:14,182 --> 04:57:15,216 for land to purchase because if 6892 04:57:15,216 --> 04:57:19,416 they are going to invest in the 6893 04:57:21,956 --> 04:57:22,590 site they will the surety that 6894 04:57:22,590 --> 04:57:23,257 if they make the investment 10 6895 04:57:23,257 --> 04:57:24,492 years from now it's not going 6896 04:57:24,492 --> 04:57:26,260 to flip over the owner is going 6897 04:57:26,260 --> 04:57:27,295 to sell to a data center and so 6898 04:57:27,295 --> 04:57:28,462 the fact that this is proffered 6899 04:57:28,462 --> 04:57:32,662 out data centers and this is a 6900 04:57:35,690 --> 04:57:36,300 lease opportunity pick another 6901 04:57:36,300 --> 04:57:36,671 challenge with the small 6902 04:57:36,671 --> 04:57:39,671 business owners is having the 6903 04:57:39,907 --> 04:57:43,507 capital to buy the land for 6904 04:57:44,345 --> 04:57:45,313 this makes it ideal for other 6905 04:57:45,313 --> 04:57:47,713 businesses to co-locate and 6906 04:57:49,383 --> 04:57:49,483 grow their business in scale 6907 04:57:49,483 --> 04:57:51,483 . 6908 04:57:53,754 --> 04:57:54,755 I appreciate the applicant is 6909 04:57:54,755 --> 04:57:56,755 making adjacent properties 6910 04:57:59,360 --> 04:58:00,261 available to give this were to 6911 04:58:00,261 --> 04:58:02,530 go through would be able to 6912 04:58:02,530 --> 04:58:03,197 send potential applicants 6913 04:58:03,197 --> 04:58:03,865 . 6914 04:58:03,865 --> 04:58:04,465 >> Kenny Boddye: I have one 6915 04:58:04,465 --> 04:58:06,465 minute 15 left. 6916 04:58:06,734 --> 04:58:08,970 I appreciate you saying that. 6917 04:58:08,970 --> 04:58:09,504 That's the other part 6918 04:58:09,504 --> 04:58:10,972 . 6919 04:58:10,972 --> 04:58:11,720 He is not just doing this 6920 04:58:11,720 --> 04:58:13,720 . 6921 04:58:14,342 --> 04:58:14,842 Is also putting up land for 6922 04:58:14,842 --> 04:58:16,842 other contractors and 6923 04:58:19,280 --> 04:58:20,147 businesses to move in and start 6924 04:58:20,147 --> 04:58:20,948 the first time being able to 6925 04:58:20,948 --> 04:58:23,985 lease a space versus having to 6926 04:58:23,985 --> 04:58:26,985 the point workers trying to 6927 04:58:28,689 --> 04:58:29,690 find helter-skelter places 6928 04:58:29,690 --> 04:58:30,725 throughout the county to store 6929 04:58:30,725 --> 04:58:31,425 their stuff and small storage 6930 04:58:31,425 --> 04:58:33,825 containers and things like 6931 04:58:36,731 --> 04:58:37,731 that. 6932 04:58:37,731 --> 04:58:38,332 Can you talk about thought of 6933 04:58:38,332 --> 04:58:39,232 what that looks like in the 6934 04:58:39,232 --> 04:58:42,370 future if you are able to use 6935 04:58:42,370 --> 04:58:42,870 that in the model? 6936 04:58:42,870 --> 04:58:43,971 >> you said it. 6937 04:58:43,971 --> 04:58:45,273 It is an opportunity for them 6938 04:58:45,273 --> 04:58:47,475 to have the look in the way of 6939 04:58:47,475 --> 04:58:48,509 the older has described it 6940 04:58:48,509 --> 04:58:51,612 think they are using it for the 6941 04:58:51,612 --> 04:58:54,115 storage so they can get more 6942 04:58:54,115 --> 04:58:56,115 business and scale 6943 04:59:00,210 --> 04:59:00,655 . 6944 04:59:00,655 --> 04:59:03,257 We understand a lot of the 6945 04:59:03,257 --> 04:59:06,857 folks storing it other house or 6946 04:59:10,264 --> 04:59:11,265 in storage units having a 6947 04:59:11,265 --> 04:59:13,265 legitimate appropriate land-use 6948 04:59:14,602 --> 04:59:15,636 where they can utilize the site 6949 04:59:15,636 --> 04:59:19,236 and as the business grows and 6950 04:59:19,507 --> 04:59:21,907 skills they cannot operational 6951 04:59:24,445 --> 04:59:25,346 headquarters on site and it 6952 04:59:25,346 --> 04:59:28,946 becomes a model that could be 6953 04:59:30,318 --> 04:59:30,418 replicated to other areas 6954 04:59:30,418 --> 04:59:32,418 . 6955 04:59:33,287 --> 04:59:34,856 >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for 6956 04:59:34,856 --> 04:59:36,157 questioning 6957 04:59:36,157 --> 04:59:36,424 . 6958 04:59:36,424 --> 04:59:38,424 Harrison 6959 04:59:43,631 --> 04:59:44,765 , great job. 6960 04:59:44,765 --> 04:59:46,765 He ran away 6961 04:59:55,376 --> 04:59:56,110 . 6962 04:59:56,110 --> 04:59:57,245 This is a great project and I 6963 04:59:57,245 --> 05:00:00,245 say that from a perspective 6964 05:00:00,448 --> 05:00:01,148 give. 6965 05:00:01,148 --> 05:00:04,748 It shows us they are growing 6966 05:00:05,686 --> 05:00:06,420 and moving pickets 6967 05:00:06,420 --> 05:00:08,420 diversification with land's, 6968 05:00:11,580 --> 05:00:11,792 tax base and small business. 6969 05:00:11,792 --> 05:00:12,590 You can't get any better than 6970 05:00:12,590 --> 05:00:14,590 that. 6971 05:00:15,163 --> 05:00:15,496 Away they navigated harrison 6972 05:00:15,496 --> 05:00:17,496 was 6973 05:00:22,300 --> 05:00:24,300 perfect. 6974 05:00:25,773 --> 05:00:29,373 Like the standpoint of you took 6975 05:00:30,845 --> 05:00:35,450 away the big bear in the big 6976 05:00:38,686 --> 05:00:39,387 bear, you know what it was. 6977 05:00:39,387 --> 05:00:39,687 We don't have to worry about 6978 05:00:39,687 --> 05:00:41,687 that. 6979 05:00:42,190 --> 05:00:42,890 You took that out our toolbox 6980 05:00:42,890 --> 05:00:43,257 so you can make a wholesome 6981 05:00:43,257 --> 05:00:45,257 decision. 6982 05:00:46,227 --> 05:00:48,162 When you came in and 6983 05:00:48,162 --> 05:00:52,333 talked about this was it a year 6984 05:00:52,333 --> 05:00:54,333 and half ago? 6985 05:00:57,405 --> 05:00:58,873 Explaining to our communities 6986 05:00:58,873 --> 05:01:02,777 the way they lead this out for 6987 05:01:02,777 --> 05:01:03,544 us and now you worked with us 6988 05:01:03,544 --> 05:01:06,130 not for your own game but where 6989 05:01:06,130 --> 05:01:07,815 you live is critical. 6990 05:01:07,815 --> 05:01:09,815 So christina 6991 05:01:13,120 --> 05:01:13,888 , proud economic 6992 05:01:13,888 --> 05:01:14,622 development are working 6993 05:01:14,622 --> 05:01:17,622 together because that is the 6994 05:01:18,259 --> 05:01:18,392 collaboration we need to see 6995 05:01:18,392 --> 05:01:20,194 . 6996 05:01:20,194 --> 05:01:24,394 It's a win-win and it is not 6997 05:01:26,200 --> 05:01:28,336 perfect but it is good. 6998 05:01:28,336 --> 05:01:30,738 Want to complement you by how 6999 05:01:30,738 --> 05:01:33,608 you work through apricot you 7000 05:01:33,608 --> 05:01:34,475 use the tool we created that 7001 05:01:34,475 --> 05:01:38,750 gives us a sense of comfort 7002 05:01:39,981 --> 05:01:40,982 . 7003 05:01:40,982 --> 05:01:41,682 >> I could not have done it 7004 05:01:41,682 --> 05:01:43,751 without the rest of management 7005 05:01:43,751 --> 05:01:44,785 behind me. 7006 05:01:44,785 --> 05:01:45,286 Not only did they hire me but 7007 05:01:45,286 --> 05:01:47,286 then great experience 7008 05:01:50,858 --> 05:01:51,859 . 7009 05:01:51,859 --> 05:01:54,259 >> Chair Deshundra: that's a 7010 05:01:56,630 --> 05:01:57,640 very good answer. 7011 05:01:57,640 --> 05:02:00,640 >> I am still on probation 7012 05:02:03,571 --> 05:02:04,672 technically. 7013 05:02:04,672 --> 05:02:05,640 >> Chair Deshundra: there are 7014 05:02:05,640 --> 05:02:06,107 no more questions in q. I'm 7015 05:02:06,107 --> 05:02:06,841 going to go ahead. 7016 05:02:06,841 --> 05:02:08,843 I have all these papers on my 7017 05:02:08,843 --> 05:02:09,477 desk 7018 05:02:09,477 --> 05:02:10,770 . 7019 05:02:10,770 --> 05:02:11,879 I will call people up for the 7020 05:02:11,879 --> 05:02:12,613 public hearing. 7021 05:02:12,613 --> 05:02:14,749 For those of you who have not 7022 05:02:14,749 --> 05:02:15,416 done this before 7023 05:02:15,416 --> 05:02:17,416 , I'm going to 7024 05:02:18,686 --> 05:02:19,387 start with the people on this 7025 05:02:19,387 --> 05:02:20,288 page and then we will go to 7026 05:02:20,288 --> 05:02:22,990 virtual and then I will go bask 7027 05:02:22,990 --> 05:02:27,190 in ask the applicant and co. To 7028 05:02:29,397 --> 05:02:30,164 address any questions raised. 7029 05:02:30,164 --> 05:02:30,932 In three minutes except if you 7030 05:02:30,932 --> 05:02:33,332 are an organization of 7031 05:02:34,101 --> 05:02:35,690 501(C)(3) You get five minutes. 7032 05:02:35,690 --> 05:02:35,269 You will see the screen up 7033 05:02:35,269 --> 05:02:36,604 there. 7034 05:02:36,604 --> 05:02:39,640 That's the count down but make 7035 05:02:39,640 --> 05:02:42,640 sure you adjust the microphone 7036 05:02:44,111 --> 05:02:45,790 quickly say your name the 7037 05:02:45,790 --> 05:02:47,479 magisterial district where you 7038 05:02:47,882 --> 05:02:49,882 reside. 7039 05:02:50,952 --> 05:02:54,552 I see someone signed up to. 7040 05:02:58,659 --> 05:02:59,694 14 b has been deferred. 7041 05:02:59,694 --> 05:03:00,261 >> part of the reason any of 7042 05:03:00,261 --> 05:03:01,762 the gdp in front of you is 7043 05:03:01,762 --> 05:03:01,829 there was an update 7044 05:03:01,829 --> 05:03:03,231 . 7045 05:03:03,231 --> 05:03:06,831 Would you like to say with 7046 05:03:08,903 --> 05:03:09,537 updates were real quick? 7047 05:03:09,537 --> 05:03:11,272 This is meant to be stated 7048 05:03:11,272 --> 05:03:13,672 earlier and we apologize. 7049 05:03:19,647 --> 05:03:22,647 >> there is a slight revision 7050 05:03:23,417 --> 05:03:24,352 to relabel the yard sites or to 7051 05:03:24,352 --> 05:03:27,952 make it more clear what is 7052 05:03:30,658 --> 05:03:31,225 allowed to be done there. 7053 05:03:31,225 --> 05:03:32,260 Elder informed us a lot at 7054 05:03:32,260 --> 05:03:33,261 times when he is building a 7055 05:03:33,261 --> 05:03:35,661 chimney, and outdoor chimney 7056 05:03:37,431 --> 05:03:39,330 needs a sheet metal sleeve and 7057 05:03:39,330 --> 05:03:42,703 so you would like to do that on 7058 05:03:42,703 --> 05:03:45,703 the property rather than inside 7059 05:03:47,108 --> 05:03:47,809 a neighborhood. 7060 05:03:47,809 --> 05:03:48,442 And so we want to remove that 7061 05:03:48,442 --> 05:03:50,842 from the prohibited list 7062 05:03:50,912 --> 05:03:52,912 pickett's sheet metal 7063 05:03:55,817 --> 05:03:56,450 fabrication that's the only 7064 05:03:56,450 --> 05:03:58,850 change to the proffer 7065 05:04:00,540 --> 05:04:02,540 statement. 7066 05:04:03,624 --> 05:04:04,592 >> staff did read over that and 7067 05:04:04,592 --> 05:04:08,229 we send that over to the board 7068 05:04:08,229 --> 05:04:10,229 clerks as well. 7069 05:04:10,431 --> 05:04:14,631 I believe it is in my office 7070 05:04:14,902 --> 05:04:15,937 . 7071 05:04:15,937 --> 05:04:18,337 >> for future reference that 7072 05:04:20,241 --> 05:04:21,242 would be great to get changes 7073 05:04:21,242 --> 05:04:23,110 well before the date of the 7074 05:04:23,110 --> 05:04:23,811 meeting. 7075 05:04:23,811 --> 05:04:26,314 Some people are working on 7076 05:04:26,314 --> 05:04:27,315 stuff of the last minute 7077 05:04:27,315 --> 05:04:30,751 pickett would be great if we 7078 05:04:30,751 --> 05:04:30,918 got the changes with the said 7079 05:04:30,918 --> 05:04:31,886 , 7080 05:04:31,886 --> 05:04:36,860 I'm going to move to the public 7081 05:04:36,624 --> 05:04:37,658 hearing. 7082 05:04:37,658 --> 05:04:38,292 I normally call it in groups of 7083 05:04:38,292 --> 05:04:41,280 five but we only have four so 7084 05:04:41,280 --> 05:04:43,280 that is easy. 7085 05:04:45,799 --> 05:04:46,534 Travis plummer, susan, marianne 7086 05:04:46,534 --> 05:04:51,334 we are going to be doing a town 7087 05:04:52,607 --> 05:04:53,407 hall and melody miller. 7088 05:04:53,407 --> 05:04:54,108 Those four people. 7089 05:04:54,108 --> 05:04:56,508 Travis plummer, marianne and 7090 05:05:01,749 --> 05:05:02,783 melody. 7091 05:05:02,783 --> 05:05:03,383 Please adjust the microphone 7092 05:05:03,383 --> 05:05:03,784 because I know I will not be 7093 05:05:03,784 --> 05:05:06,184 able to hear you 7094 05:05:06,854 --> 05:05:07,622 . 7095 05:05:07,622 --> 05:05:10,591 If we can have quiet on the 7096 05:05:10,591 --> 05:05:14,191 dais start by saying the name, 7097 05:05:14,896 --> 05:05:17,265 were you reside and -- let's 7098 05:05:17,265 --> 05:05:19,200 go. 7099 05:05:19,200 --> 05:05:20,701 >> my name is susan. 7100 05:05:20,701 --> 05:05:21,769 i live around the corner of the 7101 05:05:21,769 --> 05:05:23,769 property 7102 05:05:25,439 --> 05:05:25,573 . 7103 05:05:25,573 --> 05:05:26,174 . 7104 05:05:26,174 --> 05:05:29,174 The discussion we had here 7105 05:05:32,480 --> 05:05:34,880 tonight was interesting and 7106 05:05:38,219 --> 05:05:38,786 informative and interactive. 7107 05:05:38,786 --> 05:05:41,186 And I appreciate the 7108 05:05:43,891 --> 05:05:46,127 opportunity to the residential 7109 05:05:46,127 --> 05:05:46,227 community response 7110 05:05:46,227 --> 05:05:48,227 . 7111 05:05:49,564 --> 05:05:53,164 Some of the things in the 7112 05:05:54,100 --> 05:05:56,337 characterizations of the area. 7113 05:05:56,337 --> 05:05:56,437 And is an agricultural area 7114 05:05:56,437 --> 05:05:58,437 . 7115 05:05:58,773 --> 05:06:00,141 These are families, these are 7116 05:06:00,141 --> 05:06:02,141 small farms 7117 05:06:02,177 --> 05:06:04,177 , livestock. 7118 05:06:07,982 --> 05:06:08,349 We have already the public 7119 05:06:08,349 --> 05:06:09,183 safety academy. 7120 05:06:09,183 --> 05:06:10,151 We have fire trucks and police 7121 05:06:10,151 --> 05:06:10,952 and everyone coming back and 7122 05:06:10,952 --> 05:06:11,840 forth 7123 05:06:11,840 --> 05:06:13,840 . 7124 05:06:13,554 --> 05:06:17,240 It is quite a busy road. 7125 05:06:17,240 --> 05:06:17,792 You will see a nice tractor 7126 05:06:17,792 --> 05:06:20,528 because they've gone into the 7127 05:06:20,528 --> 05:06:20,928 ditch to get out of the way the 7128 05:06:20,928 --> 05:06:22,928 fire truck. 7129 05:06:24,832 --> 05:06:25,660 It is barely a 2 7130 05:06:25,660 --> 05:06:26,701 lane rd. 7131 05:06:26,701 --> 05:06:29,101 T has no lane 7132 05:06:30,904 --> 05:06:33,574 markers because I will could be 7133 05:06:33,574 --> 05:06:35,574 extreme. 7134 05:06:36,410 --> 05:06:36,511 It has no shoulder 7135 05:06:36,511 --> 05:06:38,511 . 7136 05:06:40,515 --> 05:06:40,982 There is no margin or nothing 7137 05:06:40,982 --> 05:06:42,383 there. 7138 05:06:42,383 --> 05:06:44,850 This is an area that has 7139 05:06:44,850 --> 05:06:46,850 virtually no infrastructure. 7140 05:06:46,220 --> 05:06:46,287 We live with the wells 7141 05:06:46,287 --> 05:06:48,287 . 7142 05:06:50,291 --> 05:06:50,357 We have small country roads 7143 05:06:50,357 --> 05:06:52,293 . 7144 05:06:52,293 --> 05:06:55,293 The road itself where the 7145 05:06:57,865 --> 05:07:00,101 applicant property is stated a 7146 05:07:00,101 --> 05:07:02,101 gravel road. 7147 05:07:05,173 --> 05:07:05,973 It leads to 28 the 28th side 7148 05:07:05,973 --> 05:07:07,973 there is significant 7149 05:07:08,743 --> 05:07:09,443 development there is massive 7150 05:07:09,443 --> 05:07:12,443 construction on the side which 7151 05:07:15,116 --> 05:07:18,716 would push traffic back as well 7152 05:07:19,353 --> 05:07:20,287 and so I would ask for 7153 05:07:20,287 --> 05:07:22,223 consideration there needs to be 7154 05:07:22,223 --> 05:07:24,223 infrastructure supporting and 7155 05:07:26,327 --> 05:07:26,994 on the other things happening 7156 05:07:26,994 --> 05:07:27,628 . 7157 05:07:27,628 --> 05:07:30,628 There needs to be enhancements 7158 05:07:33,768 --> 05:07:34,669 to make this livable so we can 7159 05:07:34,669 --> 05:07:35,570 maintain our investment in the 7160 05:07:35,570 --> 05:07:36,170 growth we put into our 7161 05:07:36,170 --> 05:07:37,380 properties at the same time. 7162 05:07:37,380 --> 05:07:39,438 Thank you very much. 7163 05:07:40,541 --> 05:07:40,775 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 7164 05:07:40,775 --> 05:07:42,775 so much. 7165 05:07:43,844 --> 05:07:45,844 Next speaker, please. 7166 05:07:53,654 --> 05:07:54,355 >> my name is travis plummer. 7167 05:07:54,355 --> 05:07:54,555 Warrington road is a gravel 7168 05:07:54,555 --> 05:07:56,555 road. 7169 05:07:57,358 --> 05:08:00,270 We have the county putting 7170 05:08:00,270 --> 05:08:00,495 gravel on an overtime 7171 05:08:00,495 --> 05:08:02,495 . 7172 05:08:04,599 --> 05:08:05,533 Outing heavy equipment 60 two 7173 05:08:05,533 --> 05:08:07,368 trips a day would add an 7174 05:08:07,368 --> 05:08:08,102 additional burden to it. 7175 05:08:08,102 --> 05:08:10,938 With them about the waited for 7176 05:08:10,938 --> 05:08:11,506 the patient place program. 7177 05:08:11,506 --> 05:08:14,506 The ditches don't meet the 7178 05:08:15,209 --> 05:08:16,177 requirements so that's not a 7179 05:08:16,177 --> 05:08:18,913 possibility and of the heavy 7180 05:08:18,913 --> 05:08:21,313 equipment traffic regardless if 7181 05:08:21,649 --> 05:08:25,249 you are traveling for half a 7182 05:08:28,189 --> 05:08:28,623 mile to the paved interface to 7183 05:08:28,623 --> 05:08:29,824 get up to 28. 7184 05:08:29,824 --> 05:08:32,824 It is a well-worn road 7185 05:08:34,795 --> 05:08:36,795 . 7186 05:08:41,802 --> 05:08:42,570 It is rural farmland. 7187 05:08:42,570 --> 05:08:43,171 Were you thinking MAY meet the 7188 05:08:43,171 --> 05:08:43,371 intent of it by proffering 7189 05:08:43,371 --> 05:08:45,371 out 7190 05:08:48,643 --> 05:08:49,309 the things. 7191 05:08:49,309 --> 05:08:52,309 Leave the committee has been 7192 05:08:55,820 --> 05:08:55,917 working on this to meet the 7193 05:08:55,917 --> 05:08:56,117 intent of, why is that in 7194 05:08:56,117 --> 05:08:57,485 place. 7195 05:08:57,485 --> 05:08:59,120 There are challenges with that 7196 05:08:59,120 --> 05:09:02,720 and so going alternate route to 7197 05:09:04,458 --> 05:09:05,920 meet the intent to commit seems 7198 05:09:05,920 --> 05:09:08,162 like what you said setting a 7199 05:09:08,162 --> 05:09:09,597 precedent of going to the m1, 7200 05:09:09,597 --> 05:09:11,597 m2 level 7201 05:09:11,666 --> 05:09:13,666 . 7202 05:09:16,571 --> 05:09:16,804 We had to fix our language 7203 05:09:16,804 --> 05:09:17,238 . 7204 05:09:17,238 --> 05:09:18,172 Readdress this. 7205 05:09:18,172 --> 05:09:18,372 I recommend deferring or 7206 05:09:18,372 --> 05:09:20,372 denying 7207 05:09:26,380 --> 05:09:28,380 . 7208 05:09:28,916 --> 05:09:31,916 >> my name is mary ann. 7209 05:09:40,661 --> 05:09:41,362 And princeville district. 7210 05:09:41,362 --> 05:09:43,564 Wasn't certain what I wanted to 7211 05:09:43,564 --> 05:09:45,833 say this evening because what I 7212 05:09:45,833 --> 05:09:46,801 would like to say would be 7213 05:09:46,801 --> 05:09:48,801 considered inappropriate and 7214 05:09:53,808 --> 05:09:54,175 disrespectful 7215 05:09:54,175 --> 05:09:55,142 . 7216 05:09:55,142 --> 05:09:55,776 That is a bit much considering 7217 05:09:55,776 --> 05:09:56,643 either tom gordy, george 7218 05:09:56,643 --> 05:09:57,645 everson were any of any respect 7219 05:09:57,645 --> 05:10:00,645 for me, the residence and 7220 05:10:04,452 --> 05:10:04,752 principal on more specifically 7221 05:10:04,752 --> 05:10:05,520 noakes will. 7222 05:10:05,520 --> 05:10:06,487 What you're proposing is not 7223 05:10:06,487 --> 05:10:06,988 only disrespectful but 7224 05:10:06,988 --> 05:10:07,622 irresponsible. 7225 05:10:07,622 --> 05:10:08,523 Your constituents will be 7226 05:10:08,523 --> 05:10:11,523 greatly harmed by voting for 7227 05:10:12,226 --> 05:10:13,494 the application pickett will 7228 05:10:13,494 --> 05:10:14,495 set a precedent that overrides 7229 05:10:14,495 --> 05:10:15,897 protections to safeguard our 7230 05:10:15,897 --> 05:10:17,632 community from unwanted 7231 05:10:17,632 --> 05:10:18,166 disasters motivated actions 7232 05:10:18,166 --> 05:10:20,535 that will have dire 7233 05:10:20,535 --> 05:10:22,935 consequences for our property 7234 05:10:24,500 --> 05:10:24,172 communities and environment 7235 05:10:24,172 --> 05:10:24,906 . 7236 05:10:24,906 --> 05:10:28,209 In the case of the application 7237 05:10:28,209 --> 05:10:28,910 no plans 7238 05:10:28,910 --> 05:10:29,477 , no encumbrance of 7239 05:10:29,477 --> 05:10:31,877 plan amendments are being 7240 05:10:32,747 --> 05:10:33,781 required to. 7241 05:10:33,781 --> 05:10:34,782 Where does cory stewart get to 7242 05:10:34,782 --> 05:10:37,182 forgo the regulation that 7243 05:10:41,956 --> 05:10:42,590 protect us? 7244 05:10:42,590 --> 05:10:43,524 Who's going to talk about 7245 05:10:43,524 --> 05:10:44,125 progress industry but since it 7246 05:10:44,125 --> 05:10:45,260 is different I won't go. 7247 05:10:45,260 --> 05:10:49,226 And so what I'm going to say 7248 05:10:49,730 --> 05:10:50,731 was I suspect the beneficiaries 7249 05:10:50,731 --> 05:10:52,834 of other box members are mode 7250 05:10:52,834 --> 05:10:53,867 invited by self-interested. 7251 05:10:53,867 --> 05:10:56,137 The board of supervisors have 7252 05:10:56,137 --> 05:10:58,537 blatantly disregarding the rule 7253 05:10:58,573 --> 05:10:59,507 set in place to protect the 7254 05:10:59,507 --> 05:11:02,507 people they swore to represent 7255 05:11:07,448 --> 05:11:08,810 an im waiting for when the town 7256 05:11:08,810 --> 05:11:09,830 hall will be announced because 7257 05:11:09,830 --> 05:11:10,384 you are among the behind and we 7258 05:11:10,384 --> 05:11:13,384 could sure use your help. 7259 05:11:14,188 --> 05:11:15,923 Thank you. 7260 05:11:15,923 --> 05:11:17,923 >> Chair Deshundra: next 7261 05:11:21,429 --> 05:11:22,430 speaker, please. 7262 05:11:22,430 --> 05:11:26,630 >> could I try elmo out for the 7263 05:11:27,368 --> 05:11:30,938 first time if you don't mind? 7264 05:11:30,938 --> 05:11:31,105 No worries 7265 05:11:31,105 --> 05:11:32,730 . 7266 05:11:32,730 --> 05:11:36,273 If you don't mind I will start 7267 05:11:37,411 --> 05:11:38,412 talking. 7268 05:11:38,412 --> 05:11:40,548 Can't really say that at all. 7269 05:11:40,548 --> 05:11:41,149 That's the property on the 7270 05:11:41,149 --> 05:11:43,149 national wetlands inventory. 7271 05:11:45,520 --> 05:11:47,452 Sorry pick melody miller, 7272 05:11:48,222 --> 05:11:50,222 neabsco district. 7273 05:11:52,360 --> 05:11:53,528 I got enthusiastic for a second 7274 05:11:53,528 --> 05:11:54,795 . 7275 05:11:54,795 --> 05:11:56,564 On the alamo you can see the 7276 05:11:56,564 --> 05:11:57,498 green is wetlands 7277 05:11:57,498 --> 05:11:59,498 . 7278 05:12:03,971 --> 05:12:04,906 The blue, these tube blue lines 7279 05:12:04,906 --> 05:12:05,840 are intermittent streams. 7280 05:12:05,840 --> 05:12:08,840 2026 is record rainfall by the 7281 05:12:10,611 --> 05:12:11,646 way. 7282 05:12:11,646 --> 05:12:12,280 While the former supervisors to 7283 05:12:12,280 --> 05:12:13,481 rid us of the wetlands aren't 7284 05:12:13,481 --> 05:12:15,249 in the daunted line boundary, 7285 05:12:15,249 --> 05:12:18,849 if you are intending to put 20 7286 05:12:20,254 --> 05:12:21,222 acres of impervious surfaces, 7287 05:12:21,222 --> 05:12:23,958 you are absolutely going to 7288 05:12:23,958 --> 05:12:24,725 effect that. 7289 05:12:24,725 --> 05:12:28,325 This board is not indicated in 7290 05:12:30,164 --> 05:12:31,132 the willingness to deny this 7291 05:12:31,132 --> 05:12:31,799 even though the 20/40 plan 7292 05:12:31,799 --> 05:12:32,667 mandates preserving wetlands to 7293 05:12:32,667 --> 05:12:35,670 the extent possible this 7294 05:12:35,870 --> 05:12:37,870 proposal directly contradicts 7295 05:12:39,440 --> 05:12:40,141 to give the zoning authority 7296 05:12:40,141 --> 05:12:42,141 under 15.2.Demand substantial 7297 05:12:46,614 --> 05:12:46,881 impact based offers 7298 05:12:46,881 --> 05:12:47,849 . 7299 05:12:47,849 --> 05:12:48,516 I would say starting with a 7300 05:12:48,516 --> 05:12:50,916 hydrological study because I 7301 05:12:54,989 --> 05:12:55,857 couldn't find anywhere actual 7302 05:12:55,857 --> 05:12:56,457 hydrological expert who came 7303 05:12:56,457 --> 05:12:57,358 out a look at this and said 7304 05:12:57,358 --> 05:12:57,859 this is what the watershed 7305 05:12:57,859 --> 05:12:59,859 impact will be. 7306 05:13:02,296 --> 05:13:03,130 And so I would say actually 7307 05:13:03,130 --> 05:13:04,131 talking to someone housing 7308 05:13:04,131 --> 05:13:04,565 someone who knows how that is 7309 05:13:04,565 --> 05:13:04,799 affected would come 7310 05:13:04,799 --> 05:13:06,799 out to be 7311 05:13:07,330 --> 05:13:07,735 the first step in mitigation. 7312 05:13:07,735 --> 05:13:09,770 I will say is somebody 7313 05:13:09,770 --> 05:13:12,770 regularly uses the fire and 7314 05:13:15,476 --> 05:13:15,943 rescue complex and noakes will 7315 05:13:15,943 --> 05:13:16,811 is my first do. 7316 05:13:16,811 --> 05:13:19,811 I staff station five every 7317 05:13:20,348 --> 05:13:21,349 single week. 7318 05:13:21,349 --> 05:13:24,652 We don't turn our sirens on 7319 05:13:24,652 --> 05:13:26,486 because it spooks the horses 7320 05:13:26,486 --> 05:13:27,221 bequeath run silent at night 7321 05:13:27,221 --> 05:13:27,622 because it spooks the residence 7322 05:13:27,622 --> 05:13:29,457 and horses. 7323 05:13:29,457 --> 05:13:31,559 Carriage forward is not a road 7324 05:13:31,559 --> 05:13:33,559 for heavy industrial. 7325 05:13:36,964 --> 05:13:37,231 Carriage forward as a lots of 7326 05:13:37,231 --> 05:13:39,330 horses on. 7327 05:13:39,330 --> 05:13:39,600 If you are going to build 7328 05:13:39,600 --> 05:13:41,836 chimney sleeves, you can't 7329 05:13:41,836 --> 05:13:41,936 mitigate that noise 7330 05:13:41,936 --> 05:13:43,936 . 7331 05:13:44,172 --> 05:13:45,973 That is tremendously 7332 05:13:45,973 --> 05:13:47,973 environmentally damaging your 7333 05:13:53,413 --> 05:13:54,415 taking down the trees but the 7334 05:13:54,415 --> 05:13:55,316 fire department already burns a 7335 05:13:55,316 --> 05:13:56,317 lotta stuff that we are 7336 05:13:56,317 --> 05:13:56,918 surrounded by trees that filter 7337 05:13:56,918 --> 05:14:00,518 a lot of that particulate out. 7338 05:14:00,855 --> 05:14:01,556 You are not going to be able to 7339 05:14:01,556 --> 05:14:02,423 do that if you are cutting down 7340 05:14:02,423 --> 05:14:06,561 the trees to put a pad there 7341 05:14:06,561 --> 05:14:07,261 for light industrial. 7342 05:14:07,261 --> 05:14:08,296 Is he rethinking to the impacts 7343 05:14:08,296 --> 05:14:10,970 I haven't heard anybody talk 7344 05:14:10,970 --> 05:14:13,697 about the noise because that is 7345 05:14:14,669 --> 05:14:15,703 not a noisy road. 7346 05:14:15,703 --> 05:14:16,404 We operate during the business 7347 05:14:16,404 --> 05:14:18,404 day 7348 05:14:19,240 --> 05:14:20,675 . 7349 05:14:20,675 --> 05:14:22,710 If you are going to take away a 7350 05:14:22,710 --> 05:14:26,310 lot of the things that move 7351 05:14:27,215 --> 05:14:27,381 pollutants from the air 7352 05:14:27,381 --> 05:14:27,815 , we 7353 05:14:27,815 --> 05:14:29,815 breathe that. 7354 05:14:31,152 --> 05:14:34,752 We can't train for fire inside 7355 05:14:36,457 --> 05:14:37,391 and so you have a lot of 7356 05:14:37,391 --> 05:14:38,920 legislative options and zoning 7357 05:14:38,920 --> 05:14:41,920 options to demand studies and 7358 05:14:44,599 --> 05:14:45,500 look at what the impacts going 7359 05:14:45,500 --> 05:14:46,200 to be rather than rely on the 7360 05:14:46,200 --> 05:14:47,680 applicant when you think they 7361 05:14:47,680 --> 05:14:47,268 are and I encourage you to use 7362 05:14:47,268 --> 05:14:47,702 them. 7363 05:14:47,702 --> 05:14:49,437 Thank you so much. 7364 05:14:49,437 --> 05:14:50,338 >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going 7365 05:14:50,338 --> 05:14:51,539 to turn to see purveyors are 7366 05:14:51,539 --> 05:14:51,873 angrily for remote public 7367 05:14:51,873 --> 05:14:51,939 comment time 7368 05:14:51,939 --> 05:14:52,974 . 7369 05:14:52,974 --> 05:14:55,420 >> Victor Angry: to be of 7370 05:14:55,420 --> 05:14:57,420 anyone remote? 7371 05:15:00,648 --> 05:15:00,848 >> first speaker is rachel 7372 05:15:00,848 --> 05:15:02,848 alice. 7373 05:15:05,486 --> 05:15:07,555 >> Victor Angry: MISS Rachel, 7374 05:15:07,555 --> 05:15:08,556 go ahead. 7375 05:15:08,556 --> 05:15:08,823 >> rachel alice gainesville 7376 05:15:08,823 --> 05:15:10,823 district. 7377 05:15:12,660 --> 05:15:12,927 I request you deny this 7378 05:15:12,927 --> 05:15:14,462 rezoning. 7379 05:15:14,462 --> 05:15:16,862 I received supervisors news 7380 05:15:18,933 --> 05:15:20,340 letter. 7381 05:15:20,340 --> 05:15:21,903 >> Chair Deshundra: can I pause 7382 05:15:21,903 --> 05:15:23,838 you for one second? 7383 05:15:23,838 --> 05:15:24,872 Can we turn that up? 7384 05:15:24,872 --> 05:15:25,439 If he could speak up a little 7385 05:15:25,439 --> 05:15:27,439 more 7386 05:15:28,142 --> 05:15:30,142 . 7387 05:15:32,460 --> 05:15:33,800 Thank you. 7388 05:15:33,800 --> 05:15:36,800 >> I will try screaming louder. 7389 05:15:36,617 --> 05:15:37,585 Today received the newsletter 7390 05:15:37,585 --> 05:15:40,585 which was extremely timely as 7391 05:15:42,123 --> 05:15:43,124 it contained a commissioner 7392 05:15:43,124 --> 05:15:43,825 corner in which commissioner 7393 05:15:43,825 --> 05:15:44,292 justice explained encumbrance 7394 05:15:44,292 --> 05:15:46,292 of plan amendment. 7395 05:15:48,196 --> 05:15:51,132 She stated cpa is needed when a 7396 05:15:51,132 --> 05:15:52,166 proposed change does not align 7397 05:15:52,166 --> 05:15:52,834 with accounting current and 7398 05:15:52,834 --> 05:15:55,770 long-term vision for how a 7399 05:15:55,770 --> 05:15:56,470 property should be used for 7400 05:15:56,470 --> 05:15:59,472 this property is owned a one 7401 05:15:59,472 --> 05:16:00,541 agriculture. 7402 05:16:00,541 --> 05:16:02,376 Letter requesting to change it 7403 05:16:02,376 --> 05:16:04,376 to heavy industrial. 7404 05:16:05,980 --> 05:16:06,848 Everything is owned agriculture 7405 05:16:06,848 --> 05:16:08,716 including the residence around 7406 05:16:08,716 --> 05:16:09,484 the property. 7407 05:16:09,484 --> 05:16:11,884 The comprehensive plan outlines 7408 05:16:15,223 --> 05:16:15,857 the property is industrial use 7409 05:16:15,857 --> 05:16:16,858 transit to come and not in that 7410 05:16:16,858 --> 05:16:17,424 one. 7411 05:16:17,424 --> 05:16:19,560 I consider it to be a more 7412 05:16:19,560 --> 05:16:21,960 intensive step up regarding 7413 05:16:24,499 --> 05:16:24,665 uses 7414 05:16:24,665 --> 05:16:25,366 . 7415 05:16:25,366 --> 05:16:26,200 If this proposed rezoning plan 7416 05:16:26,200 --> 05:16:26,501 is consistent with the 7417 05:16:26,501 --> 05:16:28,501 designation 7418 05:16:30,872 --> 05:16:31,506 , planning, where 7419 05:16:31,506 --> 05:16:33,906 they not just requesting. 7420 05:16:35,943 --> 05:16:37,178 Why does it have to be in one 7421 05:16:37,178 --> 05:16:40,448 and why is the applicant not 7422 05:16:40,448 --> 05:16:41,820 submitting a cpa 7423 05:16:41,820 --> 05:16:41,816 ? 7424 05:16:41,816 --> 05:16:42,450 It does not align with the 7425 05:16:42,450 --> 05:16:45,450 county long-term vision on how 7426 05:16:45,586 --> 05:16:46,521 the property should be used and 7427 05:16:46,521 --> 05:16:47,655 undermines the county planning 7428 05:16:47,655 --> 05:16:50,124 process to allow the change 7429 05:16:50,124 --> 05:16:52,727 without filing a cpa and it 7430 05:16:52,727 --> 05:16:55,127 sets a precedent replications 7431 05:16:55,730 --> 05:16:59,330 wishing to rezone them with the 7432 05:17:00,668 --> 05:17:01,269 comprehensive plan allows all 7433 05:17:01,269 --> 05:17:01,935 planning staff stated is eta 7434 05:17:01,935 --> 05:17:04,935 was initiated but not finalized 7435 05:17:06,400 --> 05:17:07,341 , cpa should then be followed 7436 05:17:07,341 --> 05:17:09,741 for several residence spoke 7437 05:17:12,280 --> 05:17:15,880 about how worldly area is pick 7438 05:17:22,456 --> 05:17:23,357 my concern is I would like the 7439 05:17:23,357 --> 05:17:26,227 language to be clarified as to 7440 05:17:26,227 --> 05:17:26,394 what happens after they restore 7441 05:17:26,394 --> 05:17:28,394 it. 7442 05:17:30,798 --> 05:17:31,799 Especially as people are going 7443 05:17:31,799 --> 05:17:32,660 to use it as an industrial road 7444 05:17:32,660 --> 05:17:34,660 to. 7445 05:17:35,570 --> 05:17:37,505 For me the application 7446 05:17:37,505 --> 05:17:39,774 takes transparency and the true 7447 05:17:39,774 --> 05:17:40,374 intent of future uses pickett 7448 05:17:40,374 --> 05:17:42,210 reads as if he would cover a 7449 05:17:42,210 --> 05:17:44,212 variety of uses without 7450 05:17:44,212 --> 05:17:46,481 actually committing to the 7451 05:17:46,481 --> 05:17:48,483 board with the uses are what 7452 05:17:48,483 --> 05:17:50,883 possible consequences MAY have 7453 05:17:55,656 --> 05:17:56,357 had the surrounding neighbors. 7454 05:17:56,357 --> 05:17:57,158 They should've made to the 7455 05:17:57,158 --> 05:17:57,959 public and I actually want to 7456 05:17:57,959 --> 05:18:00,261 thank the residents of the 7457 05:18:00,261 --> 05:18:00,828 community coming out to speak 7458 05:18:00,828 --> 05:18:03,228 because without their voice 7459 05:18:04,532 --> 05:18:05,399 deny anyone listening to the 7460 05:18:05,399 --> 05:18:06,330 applicant of the board would 7461 05:18:06,330 --> 05:18:09,330 think the whole area is 7462 05:18:09,904 --> 05:18:10,204 industrial and people do not 7463 05:18:10,204 --> 05:18:10,972 live there. 7464 05:18:10,972 --> 05:18:11,739 I'm asking you to deny this 7465 05:18:11,739 --> 05:18:11,806 application 7466 05:18:11,806 --> 05:18:13,806 . 7467 05:18:13,941 --> 05:18:14,575 Thank you 7468 05:18:14,575 --> 05:18:15,243 . 7469 05:18:15,243 --> 05:18:17,643 >> Victor Angry: thank you. 7470 05:18:21,449 --> 05:18:23,449 Next speaker. 7471 05:18:30,910 --> 05:18:33,910 >> our next speaker is alayna. 7472 05:18:36,630 --> 05:18:36,731 >> alayna with the coalition to 7473 05:18:36,731 --> 05:18:37,665 protect prince william county 7474 05:18:37,665 --> 05:18:37,932 so would like five minutes, 7475 05:18:37,932 --> 05:18:39,932 please. 7476 05:18:42,103 --> 05:18:42,670 Might not use it all 7477 05:18:42,670 --> 05:18:43,271 . 7478 05:18:43,271 --> 05:18:46,673 First of all I want to thank 7479 05:18:46,673 --> 05:18:47,608 all the wonderful resident who 7480 05:18:47,608 --> 05:18:49,510 came out to share about what it 7481 05:18:49,510 --> 05:18:50,278 is like living in that area. 7482 05:18:50,278 --> 05:18:53,278 It is important understand this 7483 05:18:56,250 --> 05:18:57,318 is not an industrialized area. 7484 05:18:57,318 --> 05:18:57,952 There are homes and horses and 7485 05:18:57,952 --> 05:18:58,786 it's a rural area we are still 7486 05:18:58,786 --> 05:19:01,186 trying to have compatibility. 7487 05:19:01,355 --> 05:19:03,324 Look 7488 05:19:03,324 --> 05:19:06,324 , I'm not trying to be 7489 05:19:06,661 --> 05:19:08,620 difficult although I can you my 7490 05:19:08,620 --> 05:19:08,796 husband behind me saying you 7491 05:19:08,796 --> 05:19:08,896 don't have to try 7492 05:19:08,896 --> 05:19:10,896 . 7493 05:19:12,500 --> 05:19:13,267 It happens naturally. 7494 05:19:13,267 --> 05:19:16,267 I'm so confused because david 7495 05:19:17,371 --> 05:19:18,239 got up and explained they are 7496 05:19:18,239 --> 05:19:19,607 not rezoning 7497 05:19:19,607 --> 05:19:21,607 . 7498 05:19:24,412 --> 05:19:25,646 We are rezoning. 7499 05:19:25,646 --> 05:19:27,615 I believe this is dangerous 7500 05:19:27,615 --> 05:19:28,115 . 7501 05:19:28,115 --> 05:19:30,151 I'm not opposed to this 7502 05:19:30,151 --> 05:19:30,284 application 7503 05:19:30,284 --> 05:19:32,284 . 7504 05:19:32,386 --> 05:19:35,790 What I am opposed to is 7505 05:19:35,790 --> 05:19:38,790 changing the long range ladies 7506 05:19:39,930 --> 05:19:43,293 via what I would describe as a 7507 05:19:44,999 --> 05:19:47,101 staff because I staff decision. 7508 05:19:47,101 --> 05:19:50,101 Going to read the application 7509 05:19:52,907 --> 05:19:53,674 itself. 7510 05:19:53,674 --> 05:19:56,674 The applicant is requesting to 7511 05:19:57,145 --> 05:19:57,912 amend the underlying used 7512 05:19:57,912 --> 05:19:59,280 designation from a1 to m1. 7513 05:19:59,280 --> 05:20:01,680 And the industrial the 7514 05:20:04,218 --> 05:20:05,186 application deviates from the 7515 05:20:05,186 --> 05:20:07,186 expectations regarding the 7516 05:20:08,823 --> 05:20:09,490 implemented zoning district and 7517 05:20:09,490 --> 05:20:11,192 the inclusion of a few uses 7518 05:20:11,192 --> 05:20:13,961 only allowed in m1, however, 7519 05:20:13,961 --> 05:20:14,729 the applicant is proffering the 7520 05:20:14,729 --> 05:20:16,729 expectations regarding target 7521 05:20:16,831 --> 05:20:16,931 height 7522 05:20:16,931 --> 05:20:18,931 . 7523 05:20:19,700 --> 05:20:22,700 As such, the proposal is 7524 05:20:23,371 --> 05:20:23,437 consistent 7525 05:20:23,437 --> 05:20:25,437 . 7526 05:20:28,876 --> 05:20:31,379 It makes no sense there's not a 7527 05:20:31,379 --> 05:20:31,445 cpa 7528 05:20:31,445 --> 05:20:33,445 . 7529 05:20:34,882 --> 05:20:36,882 Everything dated describes 7530 05:20:41,422 --> 05:20:42,560 proffering should have happened 7531 05:20:42,560 --> 05:20:44,560 . 7532 05:20:46,194 --> 05:20:46,360 You could've done it that way 7533 05:20:46,360 --> 05:20:47,328 . 7534 05:20:47,328 --> 05:20:47,895 Then you would have other 7535 05:20:47,895 --> 05:20:49,895 companion rezoning. 7536 05:20:52,990 --> 05:20:54,990 What this 7537 05:20:56,304 --> 05:20:59,507 does is it allows first of to 7538 05:20:59,507 --> 05:21:02,507 make changes behind the scenes 7539 05:21:04,612 --> 05:21:05,680 that citizens might not always 7540 05:21:05,680 --> 05:21:07,680 catch 7541 05:21:09,617 --> 05:21:11,617 . 7542 05:21:12,453 --> 05:21:13,387 These are exceptions pick they 7543 05:21:13,387 --> 05:21:16,387 are exceptions to the comp 7544 05:21:18,526 --> 05:21:19,594 plan. 7545 05:21:19,594 --> 05:21:20,194 We need a long range land use 7546 05:21:20,194 --> 05:21:21,280 designation not in the comp 7547 05:21:21,280 --> 05:21:23,664 plan that you would like the 7548 05:21:23,664 --> 05:21:26,200 way you do it is you initiate a 7549 05:21:26,200 --> 05:21:28,600 conference plan amendment they 7550 05:21:29,570 --> 05:21:29,704 companion rezoning 7551 05:21:29,704 --> 05:21:30,671 . 7552 05:21:30,671 --> 05:21:34,271 I would like someone from staff 7553 05:21:34,375 --> 05:21:34,909 to explain why they did not 7554 05:21:34,909 --> 05:21:37,110 just to do that with the 7555 05:21:37,110 --> 05:21:39,110 associated proffers. 7556 05:21:39,130 --> 05:21:42,130 You can proffer everything else 7557 05:21:47,755 --> 05:21:50,558 not you would like m1. 7558 05:21:50,558 --> 05:21:52,994 It was more confusing pickett 7559 05:21:52,994 --> 05:21:54,994 is being rezoned 7560 05:21:55,496 --> 05:21:57,496 . 7561 05:21:57,865 --> 05:22:02,665 What else do I have to say look 7562 05:22:03,700 --> 05:22:03,938 , I sent you my email become 7563 05:22:03,938 --> 05:22:04,672 reading from the comprehensive 7564 05:22:04,672 --> 05:22:07,720 plan consistency long range 7565 05:22:10,611 --> 05:22:11,212 land use plan consistency. 7566 05:22:11,212 --> 05:22:14,812 We have guard rails for a 7567 05:22:15,183 --> 05:22:15,249 reason everybody has to plan 7568 05:22:15,249 --> 05:22:17,180 . 7569 05:22:17,180 --> 05:22:19,120 If you want a rezoning to land 7570 05:22:19,120 --> 05:22:22,720 use resignation not on the comp 7571 05:22:26,961 --> 05:22:29,730 plan you have to do a cpa. 7572 05:22:29,730 --> 05:22:31,232 The applicant because cory 7573 05:22:31,232 --> 05:22:33,232 knows 7574 05:22:35,903 --> 05:22:36,771 . 7575 05:22:36,771 --> 05:22:40,371 If you are changing the long 7576 05:22:40,608 --> 05:22:42,543 range land use designation to a 7577 05:22:42,543 --> 05:22:43,945 different use, if to change the 7578 05:22:43,945 --> 05:22:45,945 comprehensive plan. 7579 05:22:47,148 --> 05:22:50,117 I would like someone to explain 7580 05:22:50,117 --> 05:22:51,819 why they didn't just do that. 7581 05:22:51,819 --> 05:22:54,188 Sets a terrible precedent 7582 05:22:54,188 --> 05:22:56,188 . 7583 05:22:57,558 --> 05:23:01,158 And setup for abuse in the 7584 05:23:01,462 --> 05:23:05,620 future and I think this board 7585 05:23:05,466 --> 05:23:05,967 cannot afford to allow these 7586 05:23:05,967 --> 05:23:07,967 inconsistencies. 7587 05:23:08,870 --> 05:23:12,240 It is like saying long range 7588 05:23:12,240 --> 05:23:14,240 land uses residential. 7589 05:23:16,677 --> 05:23:17,678 Milledge, hamlet, rn, r4, r 12. 7590 05:23:17,678 --> 05:23:20,470 It's all the same comments just 7591 05:23:20,470 --> 05:23:20,781 residential. 7592 05:23:20,781 --> 05:23:22,583 He would allow an applicant to 7593 05:23:22,583 --> 05:23:22,650 come in 7594 05:23:22,650 --> 05:23:24,650 . 7595 05:23:25,853 --> 05:23:28,253 Let's say it confirmation 7596 05:23:31,250 --> 05:23:33,250 residential. 7597 05:23:37,640 --> 05:23:37,765 Just give us our four. 7598 05:23:37,765 --> 05:23:41,365 Think you should deny it or 7599 05:23:41,569 --> 05:23:42,403 defer it become the applicant 7600 05:23:42,403 --> 05:23:45,206 come back and do it the right 7601 05:23:45,206 --> 05:23:45,907 way with the cpa and companion 7602 05:23:45,907 --> 05:23:48,907 rezoning and then you would 7603 05:23:51,646 --> 05:23:53,646 have less pushback. 7604 05:24:01,923 --> 05:24:04,923 >> our next speaker is vita. 7605 05:24:07,195 --> 05:24:07,829 >> vita carol rental district. 7606 05:24:07,829 --> 05:24:10,229 I support outdoor storage 7607 05:24:11,766 --> 05:24:11,866 materials here 7608 05:24:11,866 --> 05:24:12,533 . 7609 05:24:12,533 --> 05:24:13,668 11 the business holder to 7610 05:24:13,668 --> 05:24:16,668 support outdoor storage is well 7611 05:24:16,971 --> 05:24:19,971 within its property rights and 7612 05:24:23,311 --> 05:24:24,110 it makes sense for this parcel 7613 05:24:24,110 --> 05:24:24,946 of what I am having a hard time 7614 05:24:24,946 --> 05:24:27,615 with and what doesn't make 7615 05:24:27,615 --> 05:24:31,215 sense is allowing a rezoning to 7616 05:24:33,855 --> 05:24:34,889 take place think it is 7617 05:24:34,889 --> 05:24:35,857 reasonable to residence expect 7618 05:24:35,857 --> 05:24:37,925 developers in the county on the 7619 05:24:37,925 --> 05:24:38,626 county itself develop lending 7620 05:24:38,626 --> 05:24:41,626 procedures set in place which 7621 05:24:43,197 --> 05:24:43,397 is the cpa process and comp 7622 05:24:43,397 --> 05:24:44,198 plan. 7623 05:24:44,198 --> 05:24:47,100 A special exception for any 7624 05:24:47,100 --> 05:24:49,401 applicant for any project 7625 05:24:50,771 --> 05:24:51,439 rightfully raises eyebrows 7626 05:24:51,439 --> 05:24:52,306 because this applicant 7627 05:24:52,306 --> 05:24:53,474 receiving special treatment 7628 05:24:53,474 --> 05:24:54,750 because their legal team is a 7629 05:24:54,750 --> 05:24:55,376 former county chair? 7630 05:24:55,376 --> 05:24:58,779 If the county wants to allow 7631 05:24:58,779 --> 05:24:59,380 outdoor storage 7632 05:24:59,380 --> 05:25:01,380 , the county has 7633 05:25:02,783 --> 05:25:03,751 the ability to initiate a 7634 05:25:03,751 --> 05:25:03,951 county text amendment to do 7635 05:25:03,951 --> 05:25:04,819 that. 7636 05:25:04,819 --> 05:25:07,819 Bypassing the protection set in 7637 05:25:07,822 --> 05:25:10,222 place and zoning ordinance 7638 05:25:10,224 --> 05:25:13,224 undermines our comp plan and 7639 05:25:14,795 --> 05:25:15,663 undermines the integrity of the 7640 05:25:15,663 --> 05:25:16,397 process and undermines the 7641 05:25:16,397 --> 05:25:16,597 community that you all claim to 7642 05:25:16,597 --> 05:25:18,990 serve. 7643 05:25:18,990 --> 05:25:20,990 I appreciate the 7644 05:25:20,434 --> 05:25:21,402 applicant proffering out data 7645 05:25:21,402 --> 05:25:22,537 centers 7646 05:25:22,537 --> 05:25:24,537 . 7647 05:25:24,839 --> 05:25:27,809 You know what else the 7648 05:25:27,809 --> 05:25:28,408 community doesn't want? 7649 05:25:28,408 --> 05:25:31,408 A concrete plant in the 7650 05:25:34,810 --> 05:25:34,682 applicant has not been honest 7651 05:25:34,682 --> 05:25:35,616 that it is exactly the 7652 05:25:35,616 --> 05:25:36,184 long-term intention for this 7653 05:25:36,184 --> 05:25:38,184 parcel 7654 05:25:39,453 --> 05:25:40,121 . 7655 05:25:40,121 --> 05:25:41,222 In an act of good faith the 7656 05:25:41,222 --> 05:25:44,222 applicant should proffer out a 7657 05:25:46,494 --> 05:25:47,495 concrete plant. 7658 05:25:47,495 --> 05:25:48,228 They should put it in as an 7659 05:25:48,228 --> 05:25:49,163 unpermitted use like they've 7660 05:25:49,163 --> 05:25:51,299 done for data centers on the 7661 05:25:51,299 --> 05:25:52,200 applicant in the act good faith 7662 05:25:52,200 --> 05:25:54,101 should remove the height 7663 05:25:54,101 --> 05:25:56,501 allowance to further prevent 7664 05:25:58,500 --> 05:25:58,673 any loophole that could allow 7665 05:25:58,673 --> 05:25:59,600 for a tower or a silo in the 7666 05:25:59,600 --> 05:26:01,600 future. 7667 05:26:01,576 --> 05:26:02,410 Esidents no longer 7668 05:26:02,410 --> 05:26:06,100 expect the board to do the 7669 05:26:08,349 --> 05:26:09,183 right thing we expect the board 7670 05:26:09,183 --> 05:26:09,884 to do the wrong thing and it 7671 05:26:09,884 --> 05:26:10,785 feels pointless to be wasting 7672 05:26:10,785 --> 05:26:12,320 our time speaking and I think 7673 05:26:12,320 --> 05:26:15,220 that is why there 75% less 7674 05:26:15,220 --> 05:26:17,422 speakers tonight than there 7675 05:26:17,592 --> 05:26:19,992 were at planning commission. 7676 05:26:26,670 --> 05:26:26,400 This community deserves 7677 05:26:26,400 --> 05:26:27,535 transparency. 7678 05:26:27,535 --> 05:26:28,536 We deserve transparency from 7679 05:26:28,536 --> 05:26:29,337 the board of proper planning 7680 05:26:29,337 --> 05:26:31,405 procedure and if a concrete 7681 05:26:31,405 --> 05:26:31,506 plant is being discussed 7682 05:26:31,506 --> 05:26:32,507 , 7683 05:26:32,507 --> 05:26:34,241 residents and neighbors should 7684 05:26:34,241 --> 05:26:34,809 know that. 7685 05:26:34,809 --> 05:26:36,811 That should be in the 7686 05:26:36,811 --> 05:26:39,811 application and it is not. 7687 05:26:42,383 --> 05:26:43,251 This board is three ethical 7688 05:26:43,251 --> 05:26:46,251 choices per deny the rezoning, 7689 05:26:47,755 --> 05:26:48,756 defer until a cpa submitted 7690 05:26:48,756 --> 05:26:49,257 consider rezoning to an sep for 7691 05:26:49,257 --> 05:26:50,791 outdoor storage. 7692 05:26:50,791 --> 05:26:51,859 Thank you very much. 7693 05:26:51,859 --> 05:26:54,259 >> Victor Angry: next speaker. 7694 05:26:57,498 --> 05:26:58,633 >> our next speaker is jessica 7695 05:26:58,633 --> 05:26:59,600 grove. 7696 05:26:59,600 --> 05:27:01,569 >> Victor Angry: go ahead. 7697 05:27:01,569 --> 05:27:02,470 >> Public Speaker: jessica 7698 05:27:02,470 --> 05:27:04,870 grove from the gainesville 7699 05:27:09,143 --> 05:27:09,944 district. 7700 05:27:09,944 --> 05:27:10,845 i would like to thank the board 7701 05:27:10,845 --> 05:27:12,880 for recognizing that burnsville 7702 05:27:12,880 --> 05:27:13,915 soccer team first. 7703 05:27:13,915 --> 05:27:14,582 And appreciate the recognition 7704 05:27:14,582 --> 05:27:16,217 for all of the hard work. 7705 05:27:16,217 --> 05:27:18,217 Second of all 7706 05:27:22,356 --> 05:27:23,224 , I don't disagree 7707 05:27:23,224 --> 05:27:26,824 this would be a suitable place 7708 05:27:31,320 --> 05:27:34,320 for outdoor storage the problem 7709 05:27:39,473 --> 05:27:40,341 that I have is not doing a cpa 7710 05:27:40,341 --> 05:27:41,209 on the applicant them if they 7711 05:27:41,209 --> 05:27:44,779 knew they were going to be 7712 05:27:44,779 --> 05:27:45,513 wanting a cement plant they 7713 05:27:45,513 --> 05:27:46,414 should a start about purchasing 7714 05:27:46,414 --> 05:27:47,748 a piece of property that would 7715 05:27:47,748 --> 05:27:48,616 allow for the work on the belt 7716 05:27:48,616 --> 05:27:51,160 this the right way 7717 05:27:52,253 --> 05:27:53,287 . 7718 05:27:53,287 --> 05:27:56,230 In the planning commission one 7719 05:27:56,230 --> 05:27:56,891 of the first things as we are 7720 05:27:56,891 --> 05:28:00,491 not going to talk about a 7721 05:28:01,620 --> 05:28:03,620 cement plant tonight. 7722 05:28:06,200 --> 05:28:07,168 That is very indicative of 7723 05:28:07,168 --> 05:28:07,435 hiding what the true purpose of 7724 05:28:07,435 --> 05:28:09,435 this for. 7725 05:28:11,272 --> 05:28:12,673 I agree that should absolutely 7726 05:28:12,673 --> 05:28:16,177 be proffered out that it is not 7727 05:28:16,177 --> 05:28:16,544 an allowed use for this 7728 05:28:16,544 --> 05:28:18,544 property. 7729 05:28:18,646 --> 05:28:20,882 If that is the plan, which 7730 05:28:20,882 --> 05:28:23,818 obviously it is if that's the 7731 05:28:23,818 --> 05:28:26,287 first thing they bring up and 7732 05:28:26,287 --> 05:28:28,723 it is also showing up tonight 7733 05:28:28,723 --> 05:28:31,580 with no notice for the 7734 05:28:31,580 --> 05:28:33,458 neighbors who live there 7735 05:28:36,731 --> 05:28:37,431 . 7736 05:28:37,431 --> 05:28:38,399 I also think it's indicative 7737 05:28:38,399 --> 05:28:39,233 that nobody brought up anything 7738 05:28:39,233 --> 05:28:41,200 about the residents that live 7739 05:28:41,200 --> 05:28:41,680 nearby 7740 05:28:41,680 --> 05:28:43,680 . 7741 05:28:45,273 --> 05:28:46,273 When cory stewart talked about 7742 05:28:46,273 --> 05:28:46,941 the surrounding areas he was 7743 05:28:46,941 --> 05:28:49,341 dismissive about who lives 7744 05:28:51,679 --> 05:28:52,814 there one resident is this is 7745 05:28:52,814 --> 05:28:55,214 basically a dog kennel 7746 05:28:56,684 --> 05:28:57,685 . 7747 05:28:57,685 --> 05:29:01,222 Was a people who live there. 7748 05:29:01,222 --> 05:29:01,956 That they family. 7749 05:29:01,956 --> 05:29:04,458 There are horses, farms, we are 7750 05:29:04,458 --> 05:29:05,459 all community. 7751 05:29:05,459 --> 05:29:08,620 You need to be listening to the 7752 05:29:08,620 --> 05:29:11,662 residence in this needs to be 7753 05:29:12,660 --> 05:29:12,767 gone about the right way 7754 05:29:12,767 --> 05:29:16,367 through cpa and that is not 7755 05:29:18,500 --> 05:29:18,139 been addressed 7756 05:29:18,139 --> 05:29:19,140 . 7757 05:29:19,140 --> 05:29:19,807 I am afraid that if you do this 7758 05:29:19,807 --> 05:29:21,242 tonight it shows the many 7759 05:29:21,242 --> 05:29:23,642 developers coming forward to 7760 05:29:24,946 --> 05:29:27,215 change anyone they want in the 7761 05:29:27,215 --> 05:29:27,949 county. 7762 05:29:27,949 --> 05:29:30,784 I don't know who would want to 7763 05:29:30,784 --> 05:29:32,820 move to western prince william 7764 05:29:32,820 --> 05:29:35,990 county when I have zero faith 7765 05:29:35,990 --> 05:29:36,457 what is in the comp plan will 7766 05:29:36,457 --> 05:29:37,725 stay. 7767 05:29:37,725 --> 05:29:40,725 You should be following the 7768 05:29:43,297 --> 05:29:44,232 comp plan as it is because that 7769 05:29:44,232 --> 05:29:46,100 is what holds us to a standard 7770 05:29:46,100 --> 05:29:46,801 for our quality of life. 7771 05:29:46,801 --> 05:29:50,401 And if you keep taking them 7772 05:29:50,571 --> 05:29:51,772 away 7773 05:29:51,772 --> 05:29:52,373 , nobody will want to live 7774 05:29:52,373 --> 05:29:54,373 here anymore. 7775 05:29:55,576 --> 05:29:55,710 Thank you very much 7776 05:29:55,710 --> 05:29:56,844 . 7777 05:29:56,844 --> 05:29:57,178 >> Victor Angry: next speaker, 7778 05:29:57,178 --> 05:29:59,178 please. 7779 05:30:02,183 --> 05:30:02,383 >> the next speaker is chris 7780 05:30:02,383 --> 05:30:03,151 grove. 7781 05:30:03,151 --> 05:30:04,685 >> Victor Angry: go ahead. 7782 05:30:04,685 --> 05:30:05,686 >> Public Speaker: chris grove 7783 05:30:05,686 --> 05:30:07,686 gainesville district hanging 7784 05:30:07,788 --> 05:30:08,789 out on the principal district 7785 05:30:08,789 --> 05:30:11,789 for football tonight so pardon 7786 05:30:13,594 --> 05:30:15,594 my location. 7787 05:30:16,230 --> 05:30:19,230 I would like to go 7788 05:30:19,400 --> 05:30:21,400 . 7789 05:30:23,471 --> 05:30:23,804 Using the parcel long good for 7790 05:30:23,804 --> 05:30:25,804 that. 7791 05:30:35,183 --> 05:30:36,500 The real problem setting 7792 05:30:36,500 --> 05:30:39,500 a precedent I'm not going 7793 05:30:39,619 --> 05:30:43,219 through a cpa and doing it 7794 05:30:43,424 --> 05:30:44,592 around for the property. 7795 05:30:44,592 --> 05:30:48,192 If we are continuing to hollow 7796 05:30:55,336 --> 05:30:56,300 out the 2030 comp plan pushing 7797 05:30:56,300 --> 05:30:56,838 cpas that don't align with what 7798 05:30:56,838 --> 05:30:59,507 we set forth in the comp plan, 7799 05:30:59,507 --> 05:31:00,441 it's a bad precedent to set and 7800 05:31:00,441 --> 05:31:02,143 it is a bad message to 7801 05:31:02,143 --> 05:31:03,770 overdevelopment were 7802 05:31:03,770 --> 05:31:06,770 development in the wrong areas 7803 05:31:09,484 --> 05:31:10,251 of the county. 7804 05:31:10,251 --> 05:31:11,185 I am concerned because one of 7805 05:31:11,185 --> 05:31:13,721 the parties of this application 7806 05:31:13,721 --> 05:31:15,323 is doing similar in the 7807 05:31:15,323 --> 05:31:17,723 gainesville district where they 7808 05:31:20,328 --> 05:31:21,262 might be doing it the cpa but 7809 05:31:21,262 --> 05:31:21,929 they are pushing for 7810 05:31:21,929 --> 05:31:23,929 development outside the 20/40 7811 05:31:26,400 --> 05:31:27,340 comp plan. 7812 05:31:27,340 --> 05:31:28,436 There are multiple levels 7813 05:31:28,436 --> 05:31:30,436 raising alarms 7814 05:31:31,272 --> 05:31:31,973 . 7815 05:31:31,973 --> 05:31:32,840 I don't think that the board 7816 05:31:32,840 --> 05:31:34,800 should move forward as is. 7817 05:31:34,800 --> 05:31:34,975 It 7818 05:31:34,975 --> 05:31:36,777 either needs to be deferred or 7819 05:31:36,777 --> 05:31:38,746 denied. 7820 05:31:38,746 --> 05:31:42,946 If we have to fix the comp 7821 05:31:45,319 --> 05:31:46,187 plan, fix the zoning ordinance, 7822 05:31:46,187 --> 05:31:47,880 do it the right way but don't 7823 05:31:47,880 --> 05:31:48,890 do the end around for this. 7824 05:31:48,890 --> 05:31:50,890 Thank you. 7825 05:31:51,259 --> 05:31:53,659 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you. 7826 05:31:59,600 --> 05:32:01,600 Next speaker, please. 7827 05:32:01,602 --> 05:32:02,870 >> I'm sorry. 7828 05:32:02,870 --> 05:32:05,870 We have no more speakers. 7829 05:32:07,508 --> 05:32:08,309 >> Victor Angry: thanks chris. 7830 05:32:08,309 --> 05:32:09,900 Back to you. 7831 05:32:09,900 --> 05:32:10,645 >> Chair Deshundra: thank you 7832 05:32:10,645 --> 05:32:11,279 so very much. 7833 05:32:11,279 --> 05:32:14,279 We finally got the updated 7834 05:32:14,582 --> 05:32:14,916 proffer statement 7835 05:32:14,916 --> 05:32:15,950 , which I have 7836 05:32:15,950 --> 05:32:18,319 been trying to compare against 7837 05:32:18,319 --> 05:32:21,919 lost one to see what changes 7838 05:32:23,624 --> 05:32:23,791 have been made 7839 05:32:23,791 --> 05:32:24,525 . 7840 05:32:24,525 --> 05:32:25,393 I want to see if the applicant 7841 05:32:25,393 --> 05:32:28,993 wants to respond any of the 7842 05:32:34,680 --> 05:32:35,102 comments you heard. 7843 05:32:35,102 --> 05:32:35,703 Speak I would be happy to 7844 05:32:35,703 --> 05:32:36,470 respond to any questions you 7845 05:32:36,470 --> 05:32:38,470 have concerning that. 7846 05:32:43,911 --> 05:32:47,511 We did make clear any future 7847 05:32:47,615 --> 05:32:48,616 concrete facility smallbatch 7848 05:32:48,616 --> 05:32:50,184 concrete plant requires sep 7849 05:32:50,184 --> 05:32:52,184 approval. 7850 05:32:59,227 --> 05:33:00,294 by this board. 7851 05:33:00,294 --> 05:33:00,995 >> Chair Deshundra: it is not 7852 05:33:00,995 --> 05:33:01,562 the intent to at some point 7853 05:33:01,562 --> 05:33:02,997 have a concrete plant? 7854 05:33:02,997 --> 05:33:03,898 > it's possible in the 7855 05:33:03,898 --> 05:33:04,966 future elder would need to do 7856 05:33:04,966 --> 05:33:05,566 that. 7857 05:33:05,566 --> 05:33:08,566 Again explained that if you 7858 05:33:10,370 --> 05:33:10,238 would like to explain that 7859 05:33:10,238 --> 05:33:11,104 more. 7860 05:33:11,104 --> 05:33:14,704 MR. Ramos, if you wouldn't mind 7861 05:33:15,760 --> 05:33:17,760 coming forward. 7862 05:33:19,213 --> 05:33:19,947 >> to enter the question, 7863 05:33:19,947 --> 05:33:22,947 eventually to have a concrete 7864 05:33:24,352 --> 05:33:24,752 plant you would have the vote 7865 05:33:24,752 --> 05:33:25,453 to do so. 7866 05:33:25,453 --> 05:33:29,530 It's not something I'm able to 7867 05:33:31,926 --> 05:33:32,493 do by right through this 7868 05:33:32,493 --> 05:33:33,394 process current fleet. 7869 05:33:33,394 --> 05:33:34,280 And part of the challenges for 7870 05:33:34,280 --> 05:33:36,428 small business to obtain 7871 05:33:38,599 --> 05:33:39,567 concrete is not big enough to 7872 05:33:39,567 --> 05:33:43,167 get it directly at the right 7873 05:33:44,505 --> 05:33:45,540 times for our customers. 7874 05:33:45,540 --> 05:33:45,773 I have it on my schedule for 7875 05:33:45,773 --> 05:33:47,773 tuesday. 7876 05:33:49,410 --> 05:33:50,444 The weather is not good and so 7877 05:33:50,444 --> 05:33:51,813 we canceled the concrete but I 7878 05:33:51,813 --> 05:33:51,878 might reschedule 7879 05:33:51,878 --> 05:33:53,878 . 7880 05:33:55,650 --> 05:33:58,953 I am about three weeks out so I 7881 05:33:58,953 --> 05:33:59,200 can't run a business that way 7882 05:33:59,200 --> 05:34:01,200 . 7883 05:34:06,294 --> 05:34:06,961 Be 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock agree a 7884 05:34:06,961 --> 05:34:07,461 divine her own way to service 7885 05:34:07,461 --> 05:34:07,895 our customers. 7886 05:34:07,895 --> 05:34:10,131 And so that is 7887 05:34:10,131 --> 05:34:12,500 , I would love to 7888 05:34:12,500 --> 05:34:16,700 have an idea concrete so I can 7889 05:34:19,400 --> 05:34:20,410 do my own jobs. 7890 05:34:20,410 --> 05:34:22,441 >> Chair Deshundra: how much 7891 05:34:25,613 --> 05:34:28,130 would you be producing? 7892 05:34:30,117 --> 05:34:33,187 >> we can pour 3 to 4 patios a 7893 05:34:33,187 --> 05:34:33,254 week 7894 05:34:33,254 --> 05:34:34,288 . 7895 05:34:34,288 --> 05:34:36,688 That would be 40 yards 7896 05:34:36,791 --> 05:34:37,859 . 7897 05:34:37,859 --> 05:34:39,859 40 yards a concrete 7898 05:34:42,830 --> 05:34:43,898 . 7899 05:34:43,898 --> 05:34:46,634 >> Chair Deshundra: if you can 7900 05:34:46,634 --> 05:34:47,368 step back. 7901 05:34:47,368 --> 05:34:49,837 I am trying to look at the old 7902 05:34:49,837 --> 05:34:52,237 proffer statement looking at 7903 05:34:53,407 --> 05:34:54,842 what I was giving us. 7904 05:34:54,842 --> 05:34:56,842 Dated JULY 15 7905 05:35:01,482 --> 05:35:02,250 . 7906 05:35:02,250 --> 05:35:02,617 You said you are adding any use 7907 05:35:02,617 --> 05:35:04,617 here 7908 05:35:06,888 --> 05:35:08,888 . 7909 05:35:10,491 --> 05:35:14,280 >> the data is updated and take 7910 05:35:14,280 --> 05:35:17,280 a look at the next-to-last 7911 05:35:19,267 --> 05:35:20,101 it refers to the gdp dated 7912 05:35:20,101 --> 05:35:22,501 AUGUST 24 and the only 7913 05:35:24,105 --> 05:35:26,340 difference between that gdp and 7914 05:35:26,340 --> 05:35:30,540 the one in your packet, it is 7915 05:35:33,781 --> 05:35:33,915 just relabeling on the gdp 7916 05:35:33,915 --> 05:35:34,882 . 7917 05:35:34,882 --> 05:35:36,951 To be clear what it is allowed 7918 05:35:36,951 --> 05:35:38,820 and we added the language that 7919 05:35:38,820 --> 05:35:41,789 said and any other use is 7920 05:35:41,789 --> 05:35:41,856 allowed 7921 05:35:41,856 --> 05:35:43,856 . 7922 05:35:47,195 --> 05:35:47,295 That is that 7923 05:35:47,295 --> 05:35:48,262 . 7924 05:35:48,262 --> 05:35:52,462 If you take a look under the 7925 05:35:52,900 --> 05:35:53,501 property uses 7926 05:35:53,501 --> 05:35:53,968 , goes through 80 7927 05:35:53,968 --> 05:35:54,635 of them. 7928 05:35:54,635 --> 05:35:56,635 Originally there were 81 7929 05:35:59,674 --> 05:35:59,774 prohibited 7930 05:35:59,774 --> 05:36:00,741 . 7931 05:36:00,741 --> 05:36:01,742 It was fabrication of 7932 05:36:01,742 --> 05:36:04,742 sheet-metal and that is been 7933 05:36:06,247 --> 05:36:06,981 removed from the prohibited 7934 05:36:06,981 --> 05:36:07,648 uses and that is the extent of 7935 05:36:07,648 --> 05:36:09,648 the changes 7936 05:36:10,685 --> 05:36:11,853 . 7937 05:36:11,853 --> 05:36:14,253 >> Chair Deshundra: I believe 7938 05:36:14,422 --> 05:36:14,506 that was a discussion I had 7939 05:36:14,506 --> 05:36:16,506 . 7940 05:36:17,825 --> 05:36:18,125 Can you explain or about 7941 05:36:18,125 --> 05:36:19,994 fabrication. 7942 05:36:19,994 --> 05:36:21,229 What is it I want to do on the 7943 05:36:21,229 --> 05:36:23,229 scene 7944 05:36:28,469 --> 05:36:29,270 . 7945 05:36:29,270 --> 05:36:29,804 >> I might bring a backup he is 7946 05:36:29,804 --> 05:36:31,804 the professional 7947 05:36:32,440 --> 05:36:33,608 . 7948 05:36:33,608 --> 05:36:36,177 >> to give a quick explanation 7949 05:36:36,177 --> 05:36:39,680 why we need to fabricate the 7950 05:36:39,680 --> 05:36:40,114 metal is to give technical data 7951 05:36:40,114 --> 05:36:42,183 day in my world. 7952 05:36:42,183 --> 05:36:45,386 When someone hires me to build 7953 05:36:45,386 --> 05:36:45,620 an outdoor fireplace 7954 05:36:45,620 --> 05:36:47,555 , he wanted 7955 05:36:47,555 --> 05:36:48,689 to be a wood burning fireplace 7956 05:36:48,689 --> 05:36:50,689 . 7957 05:36:51,192 --> 05:36:54,792 I also have inspectors to meet 7958 05:36:55,290 --> 05:36:55,930 with the county inspectors pick 7959 05:36:55,930 --> 05:36:56,663 one of the inspections is to 7960 05:36:56,663 --> 05:36:57,665 make sure that the fireplace is 7961 05:36:57,665 --> 05:36:58,633 not combustible so I had to 7962 05:36:58,633 --> 05:37:02,233 make it out of the metal 7963 05:37:02,503 --> 05:37:03,304 . 7964 05:37:03,304 --> 05:37:06,304 We will create everything out 7965 05:37:08,142 --> 05:37:12,342 of a 2 x 4 metal frame it it's 7966 05:37:17,318 --> 05:37:19,318 already premade. 7967 05:37:20,588 --> 05:37:21,589 Which could bother the 7968 05:37:21,589 --> 05:37:22,824 neighbors and make him a 7969 05:37:22,824 --> 05:37:24,824 . 7970 05:37:26,561 --> 05:37:28,229 In addition to that we need 7971 05:37:28,229 --> 05:37:30,310 them for the outdoor kitchens 7972 05:37:30,310 --> 05:37:32,310 . 7973 05:37:34,702 --> 05:37:34,836 Also do it for those items 7974 05:37:34,836 --> 05:37:35,903 . 7975 05:37:35,903 --> 05:37:37,804 >> Chair Deshundra: I did not 7976 05:37:37,804 --> 05:37:37,905 familiar with sheet-metal 7977 05:37:37,905 --> 05:37:38,906 . 7978 05:37:38,906 --> 05:37:40,906 And their environmental 7979 05:37:42,944 --> 05:37:43,611 concerns? 7980 05:37:43,611 --> 05:37:46,611 >> on buying the metal and 7981 05:37:51,180 --> 05:37:51,619 bending it the way we need to 7982 05:37:51,619 --> 05:37:52,353 . 7983 05:37:52,353 --> 05:37:55,823 >> Yesli Vega: if he could stay 7984 05:37:55,823 --> 05:37:56,491 there because you're the one I 7985 05:37:56,491 --> 05:37:57,291 want to elaborate and expand 7986 05:37:57,291 --> 05:37:58,590 more. 7987 05:37:58,590 --> 05:38:01,659 Thank you for coming to my 7988 05:38:03,300 --> 05:38:03,731 office we were able to go over 7989 05:38:03,731 --> 05:38:06,131 the questions and concerns 7990 05:38:12,406 --> 05:38:13,140 raised in how you made right in 7991 05:38:13,140 --> 05:38:13,941 and undermine the colleagues 7992 05:38:13,941 --> 05:38:16,941 were talking about a small 7993 05:38:18,120 --> 05:38:21,415 business for us to not confuse 7994 05:38:21,415 --> 05:38:21,549 things or to MISS Lead 7995 05:38:21,549 --> 05:38:22,283 . 7996 05:38:22,283 --> 05:38:27,830 When you are in my office I did 7997 05:38:30,258 --> 05:38:30,825 ask you to explain to me the 7998 05:38:30,825 --> 05:38:31,359 guy wouldn't even call it a 7999 05:38:31,359 --> 05:38:34,359 plan because the way you 8000 05:38:35,163 --> 05:38:37,965 explained it to me was maybe a 8001 05:38:37,965 --> 05:38:38,310 concrete truck loaded 8002 05:38:38,310 --> 05:38:40,310 . 8003 05:38:42,236 --> 05:38:43,137 Another thing was is it safe to 8004 05:38:43,137 --> 05:38:47,337 say if the weld to a certain 8005 05:38:47,441 --> 05:38:48,442 extent? 8006 05:38:48,442 --> 05:38:49,100 We don't want anybody welding 8007 05:38:49,100 --> 05:38:51,100 outside the garage. 8008 05:38:51,712 --> 05:38:52,580 But to be 8009 05:38:52,580 --> 05:38:53,481 fair to say that your work 8010 05:38:53,481 --> 05:38:55,881 involves that somebody is 8011 05:38:57,752 --> 05:38:58,519 asking for a custom kitchen and 8012 05:38:58,519 --> 05:38:59,530 you need metal framing. 8013 05:38:59,530 --> 05:38:59,654 S 8014 05:38:59,654 --> 05:39:00,121 that the type of work you are 8015 05:39:00,121 --> 05:39:01,622 doing? 8016 05:39:01,622 --> 05:39:01,756 >> yes, ma'am 8017 05:39:01,756 --> 05:39:02,523 . 8018 05:39:02,523 --> 05:39:02,957 >> Yesli Vega: I think the 8019 05:39:02,957 --> 05:39:04,957 facts are important. 8020 05:39:06,594 --> 05:39:07,295 We are at a point where 8021 05:39:07,295 --> 05:39:08,729 land-use can be in emotionally 8022 05:39:08,729 --> 05:39:12,329 charged issue but I don't want 8023 05:39:13,601 --> 05:39:14,569 to lose sight of your business 8024 05:39:14,569 --> 05:39:17,238 and what exactly you are asking 8025 05:39:17,238 --> 05:39:17,338 of the board here tonight 8026 05:39:17,338 --> 05:39:18,306 . 8027 05:39:18,306 --> 05:39:21,306 Thank you for elaborating on 8028 05:39:22,276 --> 05:39:24,276 those two items. 8029 05:39:25,179 --> 05:39:27,179 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 8030 05:39:27,648 --> 05:39:28,649 stuart? 8031 05:39:28,649 --> 05:39:30,649 >> George Stewart: this 8032 05:39:33,421 --> 05:39:35,389 question is also for elder. 8033 05:39:35,389 --> 05:39:37,625 When it comes to sheet metal 8034 05:39:37,625 --> 05:39:38,326 fabrication you say you don't 8035 05:39:38,326 --> 05:39:41,796 necessarily want to do that on 8036 05:39:41,796 --> 05:39:41,864 site 8037 05:39:41,864 --> 05:39:43,798 . 8038 05:39:43,798 --> 05:39:46,198 How loud is that? 8039 05:39:47,768 --> 05:39:48,369 Would it disturb the neighbors 8040 05:39:48,369 --> 05:39:51,500 where your facility would be 8041 05:39:51,500 --> 05:39:53,500 located? 8042 05:39:54,842 --> 05:39:58,442 >> it is nearly 24 acres in the 8043 05:40:00,248 --> 05:40:01,215 area around me as I trained 8044 05:40:01,215 --> 05:40:01,616 facility and the other is 15 8045 05:40:01,616 --> 05:40:03,616 acres away 8046 05:40:05,453 --> 05:40:07,453 . 8047 05:40:08,222 --> 05:40:08,422 Is probably children and people 8048 05:40:08,422 --> 05:40:10,422 . 8049 05:40:11,859 --> 05:40:14,428 It is a lot more limited 8050 05:40:14,428 --> 05:40:15,563 . 8051 05:40:15,563 --> 05:40:19,163 If I am working there was 8052 05:40:23,437 --> 05:40:25,173 nobody. 8053 05:40:25,173 --> 05:40:27,573 >> George Stewart: I'm sorry, 8054 05:40:31,345 --> 05:40:32,513 go ahead. 8055 05:40:32,513 --> 05:40:33,114 >> part of what you were saying 8056 05:40:33,114 --> 05:40:35,449 is that is not only the thing 8057 05:40:35,449 --> 05:40:36,117 that we do. 8058 05:40:36,117 --> 05:40:39,717 How to buy 10 jobs we might 8059 05:40:39,854 --> 05:40:40,922 need a fireplace. 8060 05:40:40,922 --> 05:40:43,922 Every customer has a different 8061 05:40:48,362 --> 05:40:49,263 needs and not everybody is 8062 05:40:49,263 --> 05:40:50,264 getting the fireplace on 8063 05:40:50,264 --> 05:40:51,299 outdoor kitchens and all those 8064 05:40:51,299 --> 05:40:53,433 things but we are being upfront 8065 05:40:53,433 --> 05:40:54,235 on what we do and so I don't 8066 05:40:54,235 --> 05:40:55,102 want to be looking over my 8067 05:40:55,102 --> 05:40:55,736 shoulder doing something 8068 05:40:55,736 --> 05:40:58,390 illegal and they be like you 8069 05:40:58,390 --> 05:41:01,639 should've told us we are being 8070 05:41:03,845 --> 05:41:06,845 upfront to maximize orlando me 8071 05:41:08,883 --> 05:41:10,883 truthful. 8072 05:41:11,853 --> 05:41:14,853 >> you said 40 yards a week 8073 05:41:16,290 --> 05:41:16,991 . 8074 05:41:16,991 --> 05:41:17,625 I know that we are not at the 8075 05:41:17,625 --> 05:41:20,625 spot yet but I'm thinking 8076 05:41:21,329 --> 05:41:22,597 forward. 8077 05:41:22,597 --> 05:41:25,597 Limit? Yards does a typical 8078 05:41:26,330 --> 05:41:27,368 concrete truck hold? 8079 05:41:27,368 --> 05:41:29,368 >> three different 8080 05:41:31,639 --> 05:41:33,639 measurements. 8081 05:41:33,908 --> 05:41:34,675 You can get an already mixed 8082 05:41:34,675 --> 05:41:38,275 truck that will be 10 yards and 8083 05:41:40,448 --> 05:41:41,349 there is a 12 yard truck. 8084 05:41:41,349 --> 05:41:42,917 You are talking about four 8085 05:41:42,917 --> 05:41:45,510 trips with a mixer 8086 05:41:45,510 --> 05:41:46,120 . 8087 05:41:46,120 --> 05:41:46,587 >> Jeannie LaCroix: four trips 8088 05:41:46,587 --> 05:41:48,587 a week? 8089 05:41:51,492 --> 05:41:52,527 Split correct. 8090 05:41:52,527 --> 05:41:53,528 >> George Stewart: got you. 8091 05:41:53,528 --> 05:41:53,895 And the next question is for 8092 05:41:53,895 --> 05:41:55,895 staff 8093 05:41:59,834 --> 05:42:01,736 . 8094 05:42:01,736 --> 05:42:05,336 Kind of something that is just 8095 05:42:06,607 --> 05:42:06,707 kind of stuck 8096 05:42:06,707 --> 05:42:07,508 . 8097 05:42:07,508 --> 05:42:10,440 I know it was said that this 8098 05:42:10,440 --> 05:42:11,179 was a one-off 8099 05:42:11,179 --> 05:42:13,179 . 8100 05:42:15,783 --> 05:42:16,417 what is to keep someone 8101 05:42:16,417 --> 05:42:19,417 proffering around the cpa going 8102 05:42:23,858 --> 05:42:24,892 forward? 8103 05:42:24,892 --> 05:42:26,270 >> every case is unique. 8104 05:42:26,270 --> 05:42:28,427 Every case is situational. 8105 05:42:30,131 --> 05:42:31,232 We look at that and is the same 8106 05:42:31,232 --> 05:42:33,232 mentality 8107 05:42:44,479 --> 05:42:45,146 . 8108 05:42:45,146 --> 05:42:45,980 That's what we like to say 8109 05:42:45,980 --> 05:42:48,380 regardless of the application. 8110 05:42:52,520 --> 05:42:52,954 Every parcel land is 8111 05:42:52,954 --> 05:42:53,955 different. 8112 05:42:53,955 --> 05:42:55,289 Different uses, different 8113 05:42:55,289 --> 05:42:55,356 considerations 8114 05:42:55,356 --> 05:42:57,356 . 8115 05:42:59,460 --> 05:43:00,161 That is on the staff side and 8116 05:43:00,161 --> 05:43:02,561 it's how the planning 8117 05:43:03,397 --> 05:43:04,265 commission would interpret such 8118 05:43:04,265 --> 05:43:07,865 future cases if they were to 8119 05:43:14,141 --> 05:43:15,376 occur in the board as well. 8120 05:43:15,376 --> 05:43:16,100 >> George Stewart: I'm still 8121 05:43:16,100 --> 05:43:19,100 worried about this setting as 8122 05:43:22,283 --> 05:43:23,251 certain type of precedent. 8123 05:43:23,251 --> 05:43:25,190 >> I wanted to make a general 8124 05:43:25,190 --> 05:43:26,200 comment. 8125 05:43:26,200 --> 05:43:28,156 The comprehensive plan is 8126 05:43:28,156 --> 05:43:29,657 policy guidance help inform the 8127 05:43:29,657 --> 05:43:31,657 board decision-making 8128 05:43:31,792 --> 05:43:33,394 . 8129 05:43:33,394 --> 05:43:35,794 They are not requirements. 8130 05:43:38,166 --> 05:43:38,933 They are requests the go to the 8131 05:43:38,933 --> 05:43:39,300 board to consider making 8132 05:43:39,300 --> 05:43:39,934 changes to the 8133 05:43:39,934 --> 05:43:41,934 land-use 8134 05:43:42,470 --> 05:43:44,470 designations. 8135 05:43:46,107 --> 05:43:46,707 The processes dependent upon 8136 05:43:46,707 --> 05:43:47,608 the request are in the 8137 05:43:47,608 --> 05:43:50,800 applications and the proposed 8138 05:43:50,578 --> 05:43:50,645 development is 8139 05:43:50,645 --> 05:43:52,645 . 8140 05:43:56,500 --> 05:43:57,180 If there is a determination 8141 05:43:57,180 --> 05:43:58,553 through the requester who feels 8142 05:43:58,553 --> 05:44:01,289 that they would like to request 8143 05:44:01,289 --> 05:44:01,389 encumbrance a plan amendment 8144 05:44:01,389 --> 05:44:02,356 . 8145 05:44:02,356 --> 05:44:06,360 If we can look on burns a plan 8146 05:44:06,360 --> 05:44:08,763 amendment would be needed to 8147 05:44:08,763 --> 05:44:09,430 support what the proposed 8148 05:44:09,430 --> 05:44:11,320 voluminous 8149 05:44:11,320 --> 05:44:12,133 . 8150 05:44:12,133 --> 05:44:15,133 not the complication we have 8151 05:44:16,370 --> 05:44:18,370 with applicants. 8152 05:44:19,473 --> 05:44:20,174 There are a number of projects 8153 05:44:20,174 --> 05:44:22,574 where the county received 8154 05:44:22,577 --> 05:44:23,377 multiple cupboards a plan 8155 05:44:23,377 --> 05:44:25,377 amendment requests. 8156 05:44:27,248 --> 05:44:29,248 Mother not 8157 05:44:29,817 --> 05:44:31,817 initiate them. 8158 05:44:31,853 --> 05:44:32,587 They are legal requirements 8159 05:44:32,587 --> 05:44:35,587 they requested the board to 8160 05:44:37,580 --> 05:44:40,580 consider making changes to the 8161 05:44:41,950 --> 05:44:43,495 board encumbrance and plan. 8162 05:44:43,865 --> 05:44:44,665 As harrison noted to come in 8163 05:44:44,665 --> 05:44:48,265 every case is unique and has 8164 05:44:49,303 --> 05:44:49,437 its own considerations 8165 05:44:49,437 --> 05:44:50,371 . 8166 05:44:50,371 --> 05:44:51,105 There isn't necessarily 8167 05:44:51,105 --> 05:44:54,208 everything has to go the same 8168 05:44:54,208 --> 05:44:54,876 way for every case and so this 8169 05:44:54,876 --> 05:44:56,177 incident would this create a 8170 05:44:56,177 --> 05:44:57,612 precedent dealing with a 8171 05:44:57,612 --> 05:45:00,120 particular situation not only 8172 05:45:00,715 --> 05:45:01,582 with the site conditions but 8173 05:45:01,582 --> 05:45:05,182 the requests in terms of the 8174 05:45:06,420 --> 05:45:09,390 future use in a consideration 8175 05:45:09,390 --> 05:45:12,390 on the land-use designations in 8176 05:45:13,728 --> 05:45:14,328 the current zoning an idea 8177 05:45:14,328 --> 05:45:15,730 doing a conference a plan 8178 05:45:15,730 --> 05:45:18,730 amendment to a higher density 8179 05:45:20,100 --> 05:45:22,470 level is not something that the 8180 05:45:22,470 --> 05:45:23,471 staff that was warranted. 8181 05:45:23,471 --> 05:45:26,807 We felt the approach that we 8182 05:45:26,807 --> 05:45:27,708 took to address back there is 8183 05:45:27,708 --> 05:45:30,411 an issue of how do we address 8184 05:45:30,411 --> 05:45:31,813 the outdoor storage situation 8185 05:45:31,813 --> 05:45:34,813 with regard to the zoning 8186 05:45:35,216 --> 05:45:36,184 ordinance but looking at the 8187 05:45:36,184 --> 05:45:36,951 full picture of what is being 8188 05:45:36,951 --> 05:45:38,586 proposed of the application we 8189 05:45:38,586 --> 05:45:39,520 felt that the approach we 8190 05:45:39,520 --> 05:45:41,920 determined were giving the 8191 05:45:46,861 --> 05:45:46,994 applicant is one that staff 8192 05:45:46,994 --> 05:45:48,620 . 8193 05:45:48,620 --> 05:45:49,463 When the application first came 8194 05:45:49,463 --> 05:45:50,164 to the planning commission, the 8195 05:45:50,164 --> 05:45:50,998 planning office recommended 8196 05:45:50,998 --> 05:45:51,866 denial because there were a 8197 05:45:51,866 --> 05:45:54,866 number of issues with the 8198 05:45:56,704 --> 05:45:57,738 applicant at work with staff 8199 05:45:57,738 --> 05:46:00,308 with the board as well into 8200 05:46:00,308 --> 05:46:00,907 consideration planning 8201 05:46:00,907 --> 05:46:01,576 commission recommendations to 8202 05:46:01,576 --> 05:46:04,576 address those issues and so 8203 05:46:05,580 --> 05:46:06,547 that is why we recommend 8204 05:46:06,547 --> 05:46:08,516 approval and support this 8205 05:46:08,516 --> 05:46:10,916 application but again, every 8206 05:46:11,719 --> 05:46:13,521 situation is case specific but 8207 05:46:13,521 --> 05:46:16,924 we did not see this in terms of 8208 05:46:16,924 --> 05:46:18,924 addressing particular elements 8209 05:46:21,429 --> 05:46:22,296 of this particular application 8210 05:46:22,296 --> 05:46:25,399 where we felt a concern about 8211 05:46:25,399 --> 05:46:27,399 creating a precedent. 8212 05:46:28,202 --> 05:46:29,700 >> George Stewart: I get all of 8213 05:46:29,700 --> 05:46:29,804 that but my concern is about 8214 05:46:29,804 --> 05:46:29,871 the process 8215 05:46:29,871 --> 05:46:31,871 . 8216 05:46:33,730 --> 05:46:37,873 I get that it is not a legal 8217 05:46:42,917 --> 05:46:43,550 requirement, but there are 8218 05:46:43,550 --> 05:46:44,619 protocols and a process 8219 05:46:44,619 --> 05:46:47,619 followed and so when something 8220 05:46:48,890 --> 05:46:50,124 steps outside of that, for me 8221 05:46:50,124 --> 05:46:53,124 it gets my spidey sentences 8222 05:46:53,661 --> 05:46:54,295 tingling 8223 05:46:54,295 --> 05:46:54,896 . 8224 05:46:54,896 --> 05:46:58,496 This is a discussion to have 8225 05:46:59,200 --> 05:47:00,134 between myself and staff and 8226 05:47:00,134 --> 05:47:02,837 some other time, but I wanted 8227 05:47:02,837 --> 05:47:04,710 to ask about that not so much 8228 05:47:04,710 --> 05:47:05,573 as it pertains to this case but 8229 05:47:05,573 --> 05:47:07,573 overall process. 8230 05:47:07,842 --> 05:47:09,430 Thank you. 8231 05:47:09,430 --> 05:47:11,430 >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor 8232 05:47:12,213 --> 05:47:12,313 gordy 8233 05:47:12,313 --> 05:47:13,347 . 8234 05:47:13,347 --> 05:47:16,617 >> Tom Gordy: if you don't mind 8235 05:47:16,617 --> 05:47:18,186 staying. 8236 05:47:18,186 --> 05:47:21,186 When this application was filed 8237 05:47:26,930 --> 05:47:26,961 , it was early in 2024 and it 8238 05:47:26,961 --> 05:47:27,628 was a case I first looked at it 8239 05:47:27,628 --> 05:47:28,496 and said there's no way I'm 8240 05:47:28,496 --> 05:47:31,496 going to support this case 8241 05:47:34,602 --> 05:47:34,902 because number one, left 8242 05:47:34,902 --> 05:47:36,804 everything. 8243 05:47:36,804 --> 05:47:36,904 It was sinking in one zoning 8244 05:47:36,904 --> 05:47:37,872 . 8245 05:47:37,872 --> 05:47:40,740 It left everything on the 8246 05:47:40,740 --> 05:47:42,740 table. 8247 05:47:45,546 --> 05:47:48,546 I was planning commission when 8248 05:47:52,220 --> 05:47:53,200 we did that, plan update. 8249 05:47:53,200 --> 05:47:55,256 There was an attempt to do 8250 05:47:55,256 --> 05:47:57,656 heavy industrial in knoxville. 8251 05:47:59,560 --> 05:48:00,127 I attended the business 8252 05:48:00,127 --> 05:48:01,620 meetings. 8253 05:48:01,620 --> 05:48:04,620 Businesses from noakes hill in 8254 05:48:06,167 --> 05:48:06,300 knoxville who were complaining 8255 05:48:06,300 --> 05:48:07,268 . 8256 05:48:07,268 --> 05:48:07,869 There's no place for them to do 8257 05:48:07,869 --> 05:48:10,370 the work in prince william 8258 05:48:10,370 --> 05:48:12,370 county. 8259 05:48:15,776 --> 05:48:16,444 They said I need a place to 8260 05:48:16,444 --> 05:48:17,512 place to go compete with data 8261 05:48:17,512 --> 05:48:17,578 centers 8262 05:48:17,578 --> 05:48:19,578 . 8263 05:48:21,115 --> 05:48:23,818 We can't go to wellington road 8264 05:48:23,818 --> 05:48:26,530 for quicken for the rents so 8265 05:48:26,530 --> 05:48:28,530 what's happening. 8266 05:48:31,626 --> 05:48:33,227 Go out anywhere and guess what. 8267 05:48:33,227 --> 05:48:36,227 People are already doing this 8268 05:48:40,340 --> 05:48:42,434 stuff illegally mulder is 8269 05:48:43,704 --> 05:48:46,704 trying to follow the law 8270 05:48:48,176 --> 05:48:48,242 vicki's trying to do it right 8271 05:48:48,242 --> 05:48:50,242 . 8272 05:48:53,514 --> 05:48:57,714 And 2022 if we are going to do 8273 05:48:58,553 --> 05:48:58,853 any industrial it must be light 8274 05:48:58,853 --> 05:48:59,720 industrial. 8275 05:48:59,720 --> 05:49:02,723 We must preserve the area for 8276 05:49:02,723 --> 05:49:04,910 our small businesses 8277 05:49:04,910 --> 05:49:06,910 . 8278 05:49:06,494 --> 05:49:09,494 They are going to culpeper. 8279 05:49:10,640 --> 05:49:10,131 Gases form dollars a gallon 8280 05:49:10,131 --> 05:49:12,131 . 8281 05:49:12,967 --> 05:49:16,567 By the way, you have people 8282 05:49:16,871 --> 05:49:17,772 sitting in trucks not working 8283 05:49:17,772 --> 05:49:20,241 for 45 minutes each way not 8284 05:49:20,241 --> 05:49:22,241 making profit. 8285 05:49:24,445 --> 05:49:26,681 It is hurting our business is. 8286 05:49:26,681 --> 05:49:29,150 If we did a cpa, what would 8287 05:49:29,150 --> 05:49:30,985 that take us to? 8288 05:49:30,985 --> 05:49:31,750 Spoke to and I three 8289 05:49:31,750 --> 05:49:32,453 . 8290 05:49:32,453 --> 05:49:34,453 >> George Stewart: describe 8291 05:49:36,224 --> 05:49:37,225 what we can do and what that is 8292 05:49:37,225 --> 05:49:40,225 truly compatible with what we 8293 05:49:41,496 --> 05:49:41,896 are trying to accomplish in 8294 05:49:41,896 --> 05:49:43,896 noakes hill. 8295 05:49:48,736 --> 05:49:49,504 >> for one thing they are our 8296 05:49:49,504 --> 05:49:52,504 primary use the 93 until that 8297 05:49:53,274 --> 05:49:57,474 would be an issue and also the 8298 05:49:57,845 --> 05:49:58,412 I3 has intensity and height use 8299 05:49:58,412 --> 05:50:00,412 . 8300 05:50:00,615 --> 05:50:04,215 even though this is not one 8301 05:50:07,655 --> 05:50:08,623 zoning in the label, irregular 8302 05:50:08,623 --> 05:50:09,590 in one would allow.5 fa are 8303 05:50:09,590 --> 05:50:12,493 inherently going to dock to 8304 05:50:12,493 --> 05:50:16,930 three, they are only going to 8305 05:50:17,465 --> 05:50:21,650 45 feet as opposed to what is 8306 05:50:22,837 --> 05:50:24,837 allowed to. 8307 05:50:29,476 --> 05:50:32,476 And they are proffering out 80 8308 05:50:36,651 --> 05:50:36,751 uses 8309 05:50:36,751 --> 05:50:37,752 . 8310 05:50:37,752 --> 05:50:40,188 It is trying to fit a zoning 8311 05:50:40,188 --> 05:50:42,188 ordinance into this 8312 05:50:43,858 --> 05:50:44,525 classification we have. 8313 05:50:44,525 --> 05:50:46,460 The comprehensive plan is a 8314 05:50:46,460 --> 05:50:46,527 guide 8315 05:50:46,527 --> 05:50:48,527 . 8316 05:50:48,863 --> 05:50:51,863 We are trying to implement 8317 05:50:53,634 --> 05:50:56,634 policies is by doing this 8318 05:50:58,873 --> 05:50:59,807 heavily proffered zoning like 8319 05:50:59,807 --> 05:51:01,843 it's it down to the intensity 8320 05:51:01,843 --> 05:51:05,443 and the height and that uses 8321 05:51:05,646 --> 05:51:08,646 that we want to see. 8322 05:51:09,283 --> 05:51:09,350 >> my house taller than 45 8323 05:51:09,350 --> 05:51:11,350 . 8324 05:51:13,588 --> 05:51:15,456 Most houses in noakes miller 8325 05:51:15,456 --> 05:51:17,910 over 45 feet in height. 8326 05:51:17,910 --> 05:51:20,910 Just to point that out. 8327 05:51:21,295 --> 05:51:24,895 This is keeping it below if 8328 05:51:25,533 --> 05:51:28,836 they are two stories with a 8329 05:51:28,836 --> 05:51:30,171 1212 pitch roof 8330 05:51:30,171 --> 05:51:30,938 . 8331 05:51:30,938 --> 05:51:35,138 What I would also offer is I'm 8332 05:51:35,476 --> 05:51:36,177 not, will going to I3. 8333 05:51:36,177 --> 05:51:39,177 I'm not comfortable with that 8334 05:51:41,349 --> 05:51:42,350 at all. 8335 05:51:42,350 --> 05:51:42,950 This is a case in be careful 8336 05:51:42,950 --> 05:51:43,518 what you ask for because now 8337 05:51:43,518 --> 05:51:46,921 what we are doing is we are 8338 05:51:46,921 --> 05:51:47,555 opening up the noakes hill 8339 05:51:47,555 --> 05:51:50,124 corridor work to have your 8340 05:51:50,124 --> 05:51:50,725 intense use them what we want. 8341 05:51:50,725 --> 05:51:51,125 Because they want to be 8342 05:51:51,125 --> 05:51:53,125 technical. 8343 05:51:56,970 --> 05:51:56,998 At the end of the day this is 8344 05:51:56,998 --> 05:52:00,340 an eye to plan area which is a 8345 05:52:00,340 --> 05:52:02,236 light industrial what we are 8346 05:52:02,236 --> 05:52:05,236 getting is a light industrial. 8347 05:52:05,439 --> 05:52:07,575 Let me ask this question. 8348 05:52:07,575 --> 05:52:10,575 Can I have another five? 8349 05:52:12,280 --> 05:52:12,380 Mental fabrication 8350 05:52:12,380 --> 05:52:13,314 . 8351 05:52:13,314 --> 05:52:16,914 Does that fit the definition of 8352 05:52:20,288 --> 05:52:21,321 m2? 8353 05:52:21,321 --> 05:52:23,691 >> holding up the definitions 8354 05:52:23,691 --> 05:52:25,691 right now 8355 05:52:25,927 --> 05:52:27,280 . 8356 05:52:27,280 --> 05:52:30,280 >> Tom Gordy: they would need 8357 05:52:32,867 --> 05:52:35,867 an sep for concrete mixing. 8358 05:52:38,806 --> 05:52:39,640 That's what we are looking up. 8359 05:52:39,640 --> 05:52:40,541 >> they would need a special 8360 05:52:40,541 --> 05:52:43,678 use permit so they would have 8361 05:52:43,678 --> 05:52:44,712 to come back to the board. 8362 05:52:44,712 --> 05:52:48,912 Limit have to come back and get 8363 05:52:58,226 --> 05:52:58,559 a special use permit. 8364 05:52:58,559 --> 05:52:59,260 >> yes. 8365 05:52:59,260 --> 05:53:01,229 Is sheet metal fabrication 8366 05:53:01,229 --> 05:53:01,929 would fall under light assembly 8367 05:53:01,929 --> 05:53:03,970 , which is part of light 8368 05:53:03,970 --> 05:53:05,970 industrial. 8369 05:53:07,268 --> 05:53:07,635 >> I do metal fabrication at my 8370 05:53:07,635 --> 05:53:07,701 house 8371 05:53:07,701 --> 05:53:09,701 . 8372 05:53:15,476 --> 05:53:16,210 I make birdhouses. 8373 05:53:16,210 --> 05:53:19,800 Now I would ask if you could 8374 05:53:19,800 --> 05:53:19,714 come up. 8375 05:53:19,714 --> 05:53:23,500 Can you talk about what is 8376 05:53:23,500 --> 05:53:23,117 involved in the process 8377 05:53:23,117 --> 05:53:25,117 . 8378 05:53:25,887 --> 05:53:26,821 What are the tools that we are 8379 05:53:26,821 --> 05:53:30,421 using and what are the noises 8380 05:53:31,659 --> 05:53:34,590 generated from those tools 8381 05:53:34,829 --> 05:53:35,796 . 8382 05:53:35,796 --> 05:53:37,365 >> we have our goggles and we 8383 05:53:37,365 --> 05:53:40,670 use a grinder and we cut two by 8384 05:53:40,670 --> 05:53:43,667 fours and then we put it 8385 05:53:44,380 --> 05:53:46,340 together and weld it. 8386 05:53:46,340 --> 05:53:46,407 We created the fireplace 8387 05:53:46,407 --> 05:53:48,407 . 8388 05:53:48,943 --> 05:53:51,343 But a legos together 8389 05:53:53,548 --> 05:53:55,349 . 8390 05:53:55,349 --> 05:53:58,553 You can hear it in a small area 8391 05:53:58,553 --> 05:54:02,753 but when you're in the open -- 8392 05:54:04,892 --> 05:54:07,892 that is pretty much everything. 8393 05:54:08,290 --> 05:54:10,498 >> in terms of the noise levels 8394 05:54:10,498 --> 05:54:12,333 in you are using a circular saw 8395 05:54:12,333 --> 05:54:15,333 ricky raising grinders to cut 8396 05:54:16,571 --> 05:54:19,400 metal and nail guns to attach 8397 05:54:19,400 --> 05:54:19,140 things 8398 05:54:19,140 --> 05:54:19,807 . 8399 05:54:19,807 --> 05:54:22,777 Maybe even using an air 8400 05:54:22,777 --> 05:54:25,713 compressor or other types of 8401 05:54:25,713 --> 05:54:27,482 things MAY be a generator to 8402 05:54:27,482 --> 05:54:28,683 help support your tools 8403 05:54:28,683 --> 05:54:30,683 . 8404 05:54:31,819 --> 05:54:36,190 Are those the things on site he 8405 05:54:37,592 --> 05:54:38,392 would be utilizing? 8406 05:54:38,392 --> 05:54:39,160 That is all I have for now. 8407 05:54:39,160 --> 05:54:42,160 >> Chair Deshundra: I have one 8408 05:54:42,263 --> 05:54:42,430 thing 8409 05:54:42,430 --> 05:54:43,397 . 8410 05:54:43,397 --> 05:54:47,597 I said this earlier and I want 8411 05:54:47,935 --> 05:54:48,669 to say it again. 8412 05:54:48,669 --> 05:54:51,380 If we need to get our proffers 8413 05:54:51,380 --> 05:54:51,205 we need to get everything ready 8414 05:54:51,205 --> 05:54:52,707 . 8415 05:54:52,707 --> 05:54:56,907 We did it earlier and I'm tired 8416 05:54:57,111 --> 05:54:57,645 of this practice is for the 8417 05:54:57,645 --> 05:54:59,645 applicant and stop. 8418 05:55:03,117 --> 05:55:04,180 Why is it 8419 05:55:04,180 --> 05:55:06,687 a date is SEPTEMBER 1 and why 8420 05:55:06,687 --> 05:55:09,687 are we getting it today? 8421 05:55:09,757 --> 05:55:13,357 Why are we getting this today 8422 05:55:14,896 --> 05:55:17,296 during the board meeting? 8423 05:55:17,532 --> 05:55:18,299 >> we provided this to the 8424 05:55:18,299 --> 05:55:18,366 staff 8425 05:55:18,366 --> 05:55:19,200 . 8426 05:55:19,200 --> 05:55:22,200 The dispatch had already gone 8427 05:55:24,639 --> 05:55:26,639 out. 8428 05:55:28,509 --> 05:55:29,410 What you have is the one change 8429 05:55:29,410 --> 05:55:33,748 in as soon as you are aware of 8430 05:55:33,748 --> 05:55:34,849 it we sent it to the staff. 8431 05:55:34,849 --> 05:55:37,840 >> you been working with the 8432 05:55:37,840 --> 05:55:37,752 applicant. 8433 05:55:37,752 --> 05:55:39,287 You just decided that was 8434 05:55:39,287 --> 05:55:42,287 something that you wanted to 8435 05:55:45,920 --> 05:55:45,893 allow for? 8436 05:55:45,893 --> 05:55:49,493 >> that is pretty much the gist 8437 05:55:52,500 --> 05:55:54,500 of it. 8438 05:55:54,735 --> 05:55:57,471 >> we have got to do better. 8439 05:55:57,471 --> 05:56:01,420 It might be a minor change that 8440 05:56:01,420 --> 05:56:02,800 we have got to do better. 8441 05:56:02,800 --> 05:56:05,800 Especially for cases worked on 8442 05:56:05,346 --> 05:56:05,480 for a while 8443 05:56:05,480 --> 05:56:06,414 . 8444 05:56:06,414 --> 05:56:08,683 There's a lot of staff time and 8445 05:56:08,683 --> 05:56:11,953 money and things that go into 8446 05:56:11,953 --> 05:56:12,860 this 8447 05:56:12,860 --> 05:56:13,540 . 8448 05:56:13,540 --> 05:56:13,721 I'm tired of proffers coming to 8449 05:56:13,721 --> 05:56:16,624 us during a board meeting. 8450 05:56:16,624 --> 05:56:17,525 that is not acceptable. 8451 05:56:17,525 --> 05:56:19,861 If there are no more questions 8452 05:56:19,861 --> 05:56:23,461 I would like to go ahead. 8453 05:56:25,333 --> 05:56:28,870 Would you like to do a motion. 8454 05:56:28,870 --> 05:56:29,504 >> George Stewart: want to 8455 05:56:29,504 --> 05:56:32,273 thank everyone who has spoken 8456 05:56:32,273 --> 05:56:32,940 out on this for all the work 8457 05:56:32,940 --> 05:56:34,575 that has been done this has 8458 05:56:34,575 --> 05:56:34,642 been a long process 8459 05:56:34,642 --> 05:56:36,642 . 8460 05:56:37,912 --> 05:56:38,212 This has been nearly 4 years in 8461 05:56:38,212 --> 05:56:40,212 the making. 8462 05:56:43,551 --> 05:56:44,485 It has gone through efforts to 8463 05:56:44,485 --> 05:56:46,187 get this thing to the right 8464 05:56:46,187 --> 05:56:48,422 place and to meet the intent to 8465 05:56:48,422 --> 05:56:52,220 meet the intent of the noakes 8466 05:56:56,197 --> 05:56:56,964 hill industrial. 8467 05:56:56,964 --> 05:56:58,964 Lane working with 8468 05:56:59,600 --> 05:57:00,568 transportation to deal with the 8469 05:57:00,568 --> 05:57:02,568 issues 8470 05:57:02,737 --> 05:57:04,737 . 8471 05:57:06,374 --> 05:57:07,375 I have a meeting on thursday we 8472 05:57:07,375 --> 05:57:09,775 will be having this 8473 05:57:11,712 --> 05:57:12,613 conversation because we have a 8474 05:57:12,613 --> 05:57:14,682 current existing problem and I 8475 05:57:14,682 --> 05:57:17,682 think the county needs to 8476 05:57:20,121 --> 05:57:21,880 address the challenges the 8477 05:57:21,880 --> 05:57:23,570 county itself is creating the 8478 05:57:23,570 --> 05:57:26,657 problem we need to work on 8479 05:57:28,663 --> 05:57:30,663 that. 8480 05:57:30,832 --> 05:57:34,432 Then working to try to resolve 8481 05:57:36,737 --> 05:57:38,737 warrington road. 8482 05:57:40,641 --> 05:57:41,475 Again 8483 05:57:41,475 --> 05:57:42,810 , my view I don't want to 8484 05:57:42,810 --> 05:57:46,280 open this up to a cpa because 8485 05:57:46,280 --> 05:57:47,281 we open up the door to intense 8486 05:57:47,281 --> 05:57:49,450 uses and that's not the intent 8487 05:57:49,450 --> 05:57:49,550 of what we want to accomplish 8488 05:57:49,550 --> 05:57:50,518 . 8489 05:57:50,518 --> 05:57:51,719 We want to keep it light 8490 05:57:51,719 --> 05:57:53,254 industrial. 8491 05:57:53,254 --> 05:57:56,854 That is what a comp plan 8492 05:57:58,326 --> 05:57:59,327 amendment would do. 8493 05:57:59,327 --> 05:58:00,995 And this does accomplish the 8494 05:58:00,995 --> 05:58:01,620 intent 8495 05:58:01,620 --> 05:58:03,620 . 8496 05:58:05,199 --> 05:58:05,733 It is for small businesses to 8497 05:58:05,733 --> 05:58:06,300 have a place to put their 8498 05:58:06,300 --> 05:58:09,300 storage and to have outdoor 8499 05:58:10,538 --> 05:58:11,305 storage and to keep the small 8500 05:58:11,305 --> 05:58:13,705 businesses in prince william 8501 05:58:16,477 --> 05:58:17,430 county continuing to do their 8502 05:58:17,430 --> 05:58:17,678 work and have a place where 8503 05:58:17,678 --> 05:58:17,945 they are not having to compete 8504 05:58:17,945 --> 05:58:19,945 with data 8505 05:58:21,149 --> 05:58:21,916 centers for land. 8506 05:58:21,916 --> 05:58:22,649 That's why we do everything to 8507 05:58:22,649 --> 05:58:25,649 keep data centers out of 8508 05:58:29,389 --> 05:58:31,389 knoxville. 8509 05:58:31,659 --> 05:58:34,659 MADAM Chair, I move for 8510 05:58:36,264 --> 05:58:39,264 approval of 14 a. With proffers 8511 05:58:42,300 --> 05:58:43,104 dated SEPTEMBER 1, 2026. 8512 05:58:43,104 --> 05:58:43,504 >> Chair Deshundra: any 8513 05:58:43,504 --> 05:58:44,500 discussion? 8514 05:58:44,500 --> 05:58:45,600 Supervisor boddye. 8515 05:58:45,600 --> 05:58:45,673 >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I 8516 05:58:45,673 --> 05:58:47,108 wanted to thank the folks again 8517 05:58:47,108 --> 05:58:48,576 not understanding your concerns 8518 05:58:48,576 --> 05:58:50,576 . 8519 05:58:51,312 --> 05:58:54,312 Event semi rural world dirt 8520 05:58:54,447 --> 05:58:55,516 road and you are the abuses 8521 05:58:55,516 --> 05:58:57,916 there and introducing another 8522 05:58:59,520 --> 05:59:01,520 use. 8523 05:59:03,240 --> 05:59:03,558 What is going to come next with 8524 05:59:03,558 --> 05:59:06,558 the impacts what have you. 8525 05:59:07,795 --> 05:59:11,995 I also want to thank staff this 8526 05:59:12,333 --> 05:59:13,100 is been going on since pick 8527 05:59:13,100 --> 05:59:13,401 that should not be lost unless 8528 05:59:13,401 --> 05:59:15,401 either. 8529 05:59:17,605 --> 05:59:18,206 I want to thank the 8530 05:59:18,206 --> 05:59:20,206 applicant first altering 8531 05:59:20,775 --> 05:59:22,343 through all this cannot be 8532 05:59:22,343 --> 05:59:25,343 overstated enough that you are 8533 05:59:28,150 --> 05:59:28,816 a small business sector the 8534 05:59:28,816 --> 05:59:29,817 business week retain and 8535 05:59:29,817 --> 05:59:30,510 attract the prince william 8536 05:59:30,510 --> 05:59:32,510 county. 8537 05:59:35,560 --> 05:59:37,240 And so4 in some cases the right 8538 05:59:37,240 --> 05:59:37,692 reasons but wanting to get this 8539 05:59:37,692 --> 05:59:40,920 as technically sound as 8540 05:59:42,563 --> 05:59:43,464 possible we will make a small 8541 05:59:43,464 --> 05:59:45,132 business to go back and go 8542 05:59:45,132 --> 05:59:46,330 through a cpa process which 8543 05:59:46,330 --> 05:59:47,435 could have unintended 8544 05:59:47,435 --> 05:59:50,435 consequences to me since the 8545 05:59:51,205 --> 05:59:52,390 wrong message that you want to 8546 05:59:52,390 --> 05:59:53,207 keep it here but we want to 8547 05:59:53,207 --> 05:59:55,710 make you spend more money more 8548 05:59:55,710 --> 05:59:57,440 time and effort to go through a 8549 05:59:57,440 --> 06:00:00,440 much larger process than what 8550 06:00:01,781 --> 06:00:02,683 should be designed from a small 8551 06:00:02,683 --> 06:00:05,520 business I wanted to say that. 8552 06:00:05,520 --> 06:00:07,452 Wanted do something supervisor 8553 06:00:08,322 --> 06:00:09,390 gordy said. 8554 06:00:09,390 --> 06:00:09,590 I see it under the new hat I 8555 06:00:09,590 --> 06:00:11,590 have. 8556 06:00:12,927 --> 06:00:16,527 Folks are trying to keep their 8557 06:00:16,731 --> 06:00:17,765 businesses, their contractors, 8558 06:00:17,765 --> 06:00:18,833 other equipment yards of two 8559 06:00:18,833 --> 06:00:20,168 options. 8560 06:00:20,168 --> 06:00:23,204 You do it illegally or go 8561 06:00:23,204 --> 06:00:26,204 somewhere else they are going 8562 06:00:30,511 --> 06:00:31,445 to culpeper, they are going to 8563 06:00:31,445 --> 06:00:32,246 further places out because they 8564 06:00:32,246 --> 06:00:32,814 can't do it here. 8565 06:00:32,814 --> 06:00:33,548 They don't like traffic and 8566 06:00:33,548 --> 06:00:34,215 impacts and all the things that 8567 06:00:34,215 --> 06:00:37,215 come up during the development 8568 06:00:38,586 --> 06:00:39,320 but as a cost of inaction we 8569 06:00:39,320 --> 06:00:42,320 are constantly saying no to 8570 06:00:42,857 --> 06:00:44,692 things people are complaining 8571 06:00:44,692 --> 06:00:45,493 about traffic on 28. 8572 06:00:45,493 --> 06:00:49,693 If these guys had to go further 8573 06:00:51,531 --> 06:00:55,731 out enough to drive in not only 8574 06:00:56,904 --> 06:00:57,972 is that a cost of the business 8575 06:00:57,972 --> 06:00:58,506 that since people driving on 8576 06:00:58,506 --> 06:00:59,407 roads because we have the 8577 06:00:59,407 --> 06:01:01,742 capability to have them housed 8578 06:01:01,742 --> 06:01:02,477 in prince william county. 8579 06:01:02,477 --> 06:01:06,770 But also, what is the statement 8580 06:01:07,281 --> 06:01:07,448 to our businesses 8581 06:01:07,448 --> 06:01:08,549 . 8582 06:01:08,549 --> 06:01:09,183 We say that we don't want to be 8583 06:01:09,183 --> 06:01:10,840 all eggs in one basket kinda 8584 06:01:10,840 --> 06:01:12,353 county but if we make it harder 8585 06:01:12,353 --> 06:01:15,353 for small businesses to grow 8586 06:01:16,991 --> 06:01:18,159 and scale, we are telling them 8587 06:01:18,159 --> 06:01:18,826 that we don't want them here. 8588 06:01:18,826 --> 06:01:22,426 We are saying one thing and 8589 06:01:25,466 --> 06:01:25,600 doing another 8590 06:01:25,600 --> 06:01:26,567 . 8591 06:01:26,567 --> 06:01:29,837 We have to continue to have 8592 06:01:29,837 --> 06:01:31,837 tough conversations 8593 06:01:32,773 --> 06:01:36,373 more friendly to have the small 8594 06:01:38,880 --> 06:01:39,914 businesses. I appreciate the 8595 06:01:39,914 --> 06:01:41,482 conversation when you wrap your 8596 06:01:41,482 --> 06:01:43,882 christina, has anyone working 8597 06:01:44,986 --> 06:01:45,653 with tonya and her team would 8598 06:01:45,653 --> 06:01:46,587 go through the zoning ordinance 8599 06:01:46,587 --> 06:01:47,889 update make sure we don't keep 8600 06:01:47,889 --> 06:01:48,489 all these pitfalls were folks 8601 06:01:48,489 --> 06:01:49,560 who have lived in legitimate 8602 06:01:49,560 --> 06:01:51,456 concerns because they're so 8603 06:01:56,898 --> 06:01:57,865 concerned about how it happens 8604 06:01:57,865 --> 06:01:58,766 in this zoning ordinance, they 8605 06:01:58,766 --> 06:01:59,400 are saying no to businesses. 8606 06:01:59,400 --> 06:01:59,767 Businesses that we want to 8607 06:01:59,767 --> 06:02:00,768 have. 8608 06:02:00,768 --> 06:02:01,402 So I want to appreciate and 8609 06:02:01,402 --> 06:02:04,402 highlight that you will stop 8610 06:02:04,672 --> 06:02:05,473 the last thing I will say is I 8611 06:02:05,473 --> 06:02:09,673 know that in a line of work 8612 06:02:10,812 --> 06:02:11,846 that elder is talking about and 8613 06:02:11,846 --> 06:02:14,846 that tendencies he's looking to 8614 06:02:22,957 --> 06:02:23,958 attract, there always will not 8615 06:02:23,958 --> 06:02:24,959 be a one-size-fits-all party 8616 06:02:24,959 --> 06:02:25,960 type structure box is folks can 8617 06:02:25,960 --> 06:02:26,594 volunteer. You MAY not even 8618 06:02:26,594 --> 06:02:27,461 know the types of tenants you 8619 06:02:27,461 --> 06:02:28,462 have a point. I'm sure there's 8620 06:02:28,462 --> 06:02:32,300 some in the room that MAY be 8621 06:02:32,300 --> 06:02:33,434 interested. 8622 06:02:33,434 --> 06:02:34,680 As you continue to have 8623 06:02:34,680 --> 06:02:34,802 conversations about the laydown 8624 06:02:34,802 --> 06:02:35,403 yard, equipment notes, parking, 8625 06:02:35,403 --> 06:02:36,270 we talked a lot about parking 8626 06:02:36,270 --> 06:02:37,271 fleets and where people park 8627 06:02:37,271 --> 06:02:38,272 their commercial vehicles, we 8628 06:02:38,272 --> 06:02:39,207 continue to find the balance it 8629 06:02:39,207 --> 06:02:40,241 would be good neighbors to 8630 06:02:40,241 --> 06:02:40,975 people that currently exist and 8631 06:02:40,975 --> 06:02:43,375 also saying there's businesses 8632 06:02:48,349 --> 06:02:49,283 we don't even know exist or 8633 06:02:49,283 --> 06:02:49,984 don't even know your tenants at 8634 06:02:49,984 --> 06:02:50,785 but we don't want to say no and 8635 06:02:50,785 --> 06:02:51,819 slam the door on them before 8636 06:02:51,819 --> 06:02:52,820 they even had a chance to apply 8637 06:02:52,820 --> 06:02:53,521 portable stop that's the way we 8638 06:02:53,521 --> 06:02:57,721 find a good way forward in an 8639 06:02:59,627 --> 06:03:00,628 area we said 8640 06:03:00,628 --> 06:03:01,362 , we want more 8641 06:03:01,362 --> 06:03:02,630 rural industrial uses because 8642 06:03:02,630 --> 06:03:06,830 the f ar and intensity pose a 8643 06:03:07,201 --> 06:03:08,169 heck of a lot farther into the 8644 06:03:08,169 --> 06:03:09,360 eye to versus I3 and that's 8645 06:03:09,360 --> 06:03:12,636 where were trying to land and 8646 06:03:26,420 --> 06:03:27,321 so at the end of the day we do 8647 06:03:27,321 --> 06:03:28,255 have these tough conversations 8648 06:03:28,255 --> 06:03:28,856 and do it's right by the 8649 06:03:28,856 --> 06:03:29,824 residence and also understand 8650 06:03:29,824 --> 06:03:30,791 there's also businesses we want 8651 06:03:30,791 --> 06:03:31,425 to continue to attract and 8652 06:03:31,425 --> 06:03:31,959 retain in this county, thank 8653 06:03:31,959 --> 06:03:32,860 you mdm. Chair. 8654 06:03:32,860 --> 06:03:34,950 >> supervisor angry. 8655 06:03:34,950 --> 06:03:35,329 >> let me try to be brief. I 8656 06:03:35,329 --> 06:03:35,630 have questions as you noticed 8657 06:03:35,630 --> 06:03:36,397 all of this. 8658 06:03:36,397 --> 06:03:37,398 Waiting through this part just 8659 06:03:37,398 --> 06:03:38,299 make my statement. My chief of 8660 06:03:38,299 --> 06:03:39,267 staff because these bible 8661 06:03:39,267 --> 06:03:40,835 exercises. Let's talk about 8662 06:03:40,835 --> 06:03:41,536 this michael exercise. 8663 06:03:41,536 --> 06:03:42,703 Two issues we have, always land 8664 06:03:42,703 --> 06:03:44,539 use. Everything is always land 8665 06:03:44,539 --> 06:03:45,173 use but the other is we need to 8666 06:03:45,173 --> 06:03:47,800 have a company, a family hair 8667 06:03:47,800 --> 06:03:50,800 was law-abiding and trying to 8668 06:03:54,982 --> 06:03:55,783 follow a process to be legal to 8669 06:03:55,783 --> 06:03:56,683 what they're doing in their 8670 06:03:56,683 --> 06:03:57,718 business. Let me do this in a 8671 06:03:57,718 --> 06:04:00,922 don't mean to be funny about 8672 06:04:00,922 --> 06:04:01,889 it. 8673 06:04:01,889 --> 06:04:02,590 This model here on the east 8674 06:04:02,590 --> 06:04:04,990 county, bracey mobile mechanics 8675 06:04:08,629 --> 06:04:09,497 working in every autozone 8676 06:04:09,497 --> 06:04:10,398 parking lot. Fixing cars. I 8677 06:04:10,398 --> 06:04:11,132 have so many oil stains splc 8678 06:04:11,132 --> 06:04:11,432 all over the place because 8679 06:04:11,432 --> 06:04:12,166 guess what? 8680 06:04:12,166 --> 06:04:15,166 Starting to think if these 8681 06:04:17,471 --> 06:04:18,439 folks at this meeting right now 8682 06:04:18,439 --> 06:04:19,373 they don't want to legalize 8683 06:04:19,373 --> 06:04:20,341 their business because it's 8684 06:04:20,341 --> 06:04:21,142 very tough because we are 8685 06:04:21,142 --> 06:04:21,741 having unnecessary 8686 06:04:21,741 --> 06:04:22,143 conversations about how do we 8687 06:04:22,143 --> 06:04:22,910 clean up 8688 06:04:22,910 --> 06:04:24,910 , trying to legalize 8689 06:04:25,613 --> 06:04:28,549 businesses which is what we and 8690 06:04:28,549 --> 06:04:29,484 I'm not even saying a business 8691 06:04:29,484 --> 06:04:31,884 was illegal. Literally trying 8692 06:04:35,289 --> 06:04:35,923 to streamline the process, grow 8693 06:04:35,923 --> 06:04:36,858 your company, do things that 8694 06:04:36,858 --> 06:04:41,580 are done on site where you are 8695 06:04:58,450 --> 06:04:59,130 working in a facility that is 8696 06:04:59,130 --> 06:05:00,140 clearly out of the way and I'm 8697 06:05:00,140 --> 06:05:00,748 sorry because I know this will 8698 06:05:00,748 --> 06:05:01,582 affect if you homeowners, I 8699 06:05:01,582 --> 06:05:02,550 know that academy well and i 8700 06:05:02,550 --> 06:05:03,151 expand a year there entire 8701 06:05:03,151 --> 06:05:03,985 school's one of the area very 8702 06:05:03,985 --> 06:05:05,190 well. It seemed to me a 8703 06:05:05,190 --> 06:05:05,987 no-brainer this would be that. 8704 06:05:05,987 --> 06:05:06,621 Without it being the regular 8705 06:05:06,621 --> 06:05:07,488 conversation we are always 8706 06:05:07,488 --> 06:05:08,956 having about big business in 8707 06:05:08,956 --> 06:05:09,557 that word data center. I really 8708 06:05:09,557 --> 06:05:10,158 felt this was something that 8709 06:05:10,158 --> 06:05:10,992 would be simple to do and I 8710 06:05:10,992 --> 06:05:11,692 appreciate everything we say 8711 06:05:11,692 --> 06:05:12,493 because literally once again 8712 06:05:12,493 --> 06:05:13,494 you said this before in the 8713 06:05:13,494 --> 06:05:16,597 past, and it goes with what 8714 06:05:16,597 --> 06:05:17,565 you're saying now. 8715 06:05:17,565 --> 06:05:18,231 And even talked about the fact 8716 06:05:18,231 --> 06:05:21,135 we went to that small business 8717 06:05:21,135 --> 06:05:21,769 meeting and found out folks 8718 06:05:21,769 --> 06:05:22,837 wanted it and here we are today 8719 06:05:22,837 --> 06:05:25,837 having this conversation but it 8720 06:05:25,940 --> 06:05:28,340 was kind of long. 8721 06:05:33,800 --> 06:05:33,981 Who enter this michael exercise 8722 06:05:33,981 --> 06:05:34,749 to really see small business 8723 06:05:34,749 --> 06:05:35,583 have an opportunity for others 8724 06:05:35,583 --> 06:05:39,783 to want to move forward and be 8725 06:05:40,646 --> 06:05:41,880 a part of the county by moving 8726 06:05:41,880 --> 06:05:42,230 their business into 8727 06:05:42,230 --> 06:05:42,657 brick-and-mortar in the process 8728 06:05:42,657 --> 06:05:46,257 so I really thank you, thank 8729 06:05:47,610 --> 06:05:47,995 you all for bringing this to 8730 06:05:47,995 --> 06:05:48,696 grow in the county and not 8731 06:05:48,696 --> 06:05:52,296 leave that county and doing it 8732 06:05:58,673 --> 06:05:59,540 the right way. So thank you. 8733 06:05:59,540 --> 06:06:00,341 >> supervisor bailey. 8734 06:06:00,341 --> 06:06:01,342 >> thank you mdm. Chair. I'll 8735 06:06:01,342 --> 06:06:02,677 take the baton from supervisor 8736 06:06:02,677 --> 06:06:03,611 angry. Thank you for passing it 8737 06:06:03,611 --> 06:06:03,845 to me. And I will start with 8738 06:06:03,845 --> 06:06:04,412 growth. 8739 06:06:04,412 --> 06:06:08,516 And we do have to learn and 8740 06:06:08,516 --> 06:06:09,116 grow together as community, the 8741 06:06:09,116 --> 06:06:13,316 first thing I want to say is 8742 06:06:16,157 --> 06:06:17,910 elder, thank you for deciding 8743 06:06:17,910 --> 06:06:18,590 to live here. And to establish 8744 06:06:18,590 --> 06:06:20,590 your business here. 8745 06:06:21,863 --> 06:06:23,231 Because we, all communities, 8746 06:06:23,231 --> 06:06:25,631 small business emulate the 8747 06:06:28,836 --> 06:06:29,837 economy. 8748 06:06:29,837 --> 06:06:30,338 Wherever people live. And so, 8749 06:06:30,338 --> 06:06:32,738 for your vision and 8750 06:06:34,775 --> 06:06:35,643 understanding that and not 8751 06:06:35,643 --> 06:06:36,344 leaving and working through 8752 06:06:36,344 --> 06:06:37,512 from the time you came to my 8753 06:06:37,512 --> 06:06:38,913 office and talked about this 8754 06:06:38,913 --> 06:06:42,513 and that times were like this, 8755 06:06:47,188 --> 06:06:47,955 but, you did not give up. 8756 06:06:47,955 --> 06:06:48,823 It's what I'm saying so thank 8757 06:06:48,823 --> 06:06:49,690 you for living here and raising 8758 06:06:49,690 --> 06:06:52,994 your family here. As a family 8759 06:06:52,994 --> 06:06:53,928 unit, as a father-in-law, you 8760 06:06:53,928 --> 06:06:55,196 are all doing it together. So 8761 06:06:55,196 --> 06:06:56,164 that trust is there. 8762 06:06:56,164 --> 06:06:57,798 And we want to help you build 8763 06:06:57,798 --> 06:06:59,798 that trust. 8764 06:07:00,701 --> 06:07:04,901 And so to my colleague tom, we 8765 06:07:05,106 --> 06:07:06,700 learn from you all the time. 8766 06:07:06,700 --> 06:07:09,544 And you don't say much but when 8767 06:07:09,544 --> 06:07:10,511 you say it is pointed. 8768 06:07:10,511 --> 06:07:11,179 You are on the planning 8769 06:07:11,179 --> 06:07:13,579 commission, that helps is 8770 06:07:14,649 --> 06:07:15,682 making decisions. 8771 06:07:15,682 --> 06:07:19,882 We MAY not agree. But it helps 8772 06:07:20,254 --> 06:07:21,122 us make a decision so you are 8773 06:07:21,122 --> 06:07:21,789 here with all of this and 8774 06:07:21,789 --> 06:07:22,623 constantly show us different 8775 06:07:22,623 --> 06:07:24,692 ways and how we can support 8776 06:07:24,692 --> 06:07:28,292 staff, and the client. And say 8777 06:07:34,168 --> 06:07:35,135 yes or no. Or not now. 8778 06:07:35,135 --> 06:07:36,370 So for staff, economic 8779 06:07:36,370 --> 06:07:37,300 development and planning, 8780 06:07:37,300 --> 06:07:37,705 again, this is an example of a 8781 06:07:37,705 --> 06:07:38,139 collaborate together and from 8782 06:07:38,139 --> 06:07:40,539 the past you in. 8783 06:07:42,443 --> 06:07:43,377 Not in a negative sense, you 8784 06:07:43,377 --> 06:07:45,480 were but not like you are now. 8785 06:07:45,480 --> 06:07:45,680 That helps us make a decision 8786 06:07:45,680 --> 06:07:47,680 also. 8787 06:07:51,850 --> 06:07:51,953 And MR. Stewart, you're going 8788 06:07:51,953 --> 06:07:54,689 to be the gift that keeps on 8789 06:07:54,689 --> 06:07:57,689 giving. Because you will be 8790 06:07:57,992 --> 06:07:58,993 transitioning consistently. 8791 06:07:58,993 --> 06:08:00,862 Your role in the past is not 8792 06:08:00,862 --> 06:08:01,896 what your role is now. 8793 06:08:01,896 --> 06:08:05,496 Just call that growth. Take the 8794 06:08:05,933 --> 06:08:06,834 punches, we give them. We will 8795 06:08:06,834 --> 06:08:07,667 give them but we need answers 8796 06:08:07,667 --> 06:08:09,667 from you. 8797 06:08:14,809 --> 06:08:15,343 So prep as an primus to be able 8798 06:08:15,343 --> 06:08:16,310 to say as to the client. 8799 06:08:16,310 --> 06:08:19,910 Always. But it is growth. And 8800 06:08:29,390 --> 06:08:30,910 then to our wonderful 8801 06:08:30,910 --> 06:08:31,250 constituents they came out and 8802 06:08:31,250 --> 06:08:31,959 gave your views on how you feel 8803 06:08:31,959 --> 06:08:32,860 about this. We appreciate your 8804 06:08:32,860 --> 06:08:34,362 voices. We have to make these 8805 06:08:34,362 --> 06:08:36,762 decisions collectively. And it 8806 06:08:41,369 --> 06:08:42,236 is hard. Because when -- we 8807 06:08:42,236 --> 06:08:42,970 want status by everybody 8808 06:08:42,970 --> 06:08:43,871 always. But it's hard. That's 8809 06:08:43,871 --> 06:08:44,739 why he passed out big bucks. 8810 06:08:44,739 --> 06:08:45,406 You pay us to serve and serve 8811 06:08:45,406 --> 06:08:46,440 everybody not just the spot. 8812 06:08:46,440 --> 06:08:47,241 So I say that not any negative 8813 06:08:47,241 --> 06:08:49,241 sense at all. 8814 06:08:49,977 --> 06:08:53,447 But you say that the process 8815 06:08:53,447 --> 06:08:56,447 that harrison took us through 8816 06:08:57,385 --> 06:08:58,152 was tough. Two years. 8817 06:08:58,152 --> 06:08:59,887 Which has stayed the course and 8818 06:08:59,887 --> 06:09:01,887 you fed us. 8819 06:09:05,526 --> 06:09:07,926 So I appreciate that. 8820 06:09:09,564 --> 06:09:10,464 But that's kind of how I say 8821 06:09:10,464 --> 06:09:10,731 this to you. I'm sorry mdm. 8822 06:09:10,731 --> 06:09:12,731 Chair. 8823 06:09:17,438 --> 06:09:18,406 His every community is 8824 06:09:18,406 --> 06:09:19,730 important to me. So appreciate 8825 06:09:19,730 --> 06:09:21,473 the presentation tonight. I 8826 06:09:23,344 --> 06:09:24,245 agree with mdm. Chair, last 8827 06:09:24,245 --> 06:09:25,913 minute. You been up here. 8828 06:09:25,913 --> 06:09:28,913 That's a transition, just set 8829 06:09:30,351 --> 06:09:31,919 us up a little bit. 8830 06:09:31,919 --> 06:09:34,922 I want to say to elder, the 8831 06:09:34,922 --> 06:09:37,322 community, the business owner. 8832 06:09:42,630 --> 06:09:43,970 Help us in diversifying, and 8833 06:09:43,970 --> 06:09:44,866 that's important as we build a 8834 06:09:44,866 --> 06:09:46,267 tax base. 8835 06:09:46,267 --> 06:09:48,703 So the county is not writing on 8836 06:09:48,703 --> 06:09:51,703 the citizens back to support 8837 06:09:53,907 --> 06:09:54,809 it. 8838 06:09:54,809 --> 06:09:56,809 >> supervisor lacroix. 8839 06:09:58,112 --> 06:09:59,800 >> I reset it when I met you. 8840 06:09:59,800 --> 06:09:59,247 You make me want to help you. 8841 06:09:59,247 --> 06:10:01,247 I'm 8842 06:10:01,516 --> 06:10:03,951 thinking who needs a deck? 8843 06:10:03,951 --> 06:10:04,118 I'm dying to give your name 8844 06:10:04,118 --> 06:10:06,118 out. 8845 06:10:07,355 --> 06:10:08,956 But so often times the county 8846 06:10:08,956 --> 06:10:11,826 makes it hard for people. 8847 06:10:11,826 --> 06:10:13,394 And it does my heart good when 8848 06:10:13,394 --> 06:10:15,794 people are showing grace. 8849 06:10:17,310 --> 06:10:19,000 So you were denied and then our 8850 06:10:19,000 --> 06:10:21,802 staff kept working with you. 8851 06:10:21,802 --> 06:10:24,204 And you know, you don't have 8852 06:10:24,204 --> 06:10:25,173 that kind of success. 8853 06:10:25,173 --> 06:10:28,173 Somebody's really not on the 8854 06:10:36,170 --> 06:10:36,917 other side or on the side. This 8855 06:10:36,917 --> 06:10:37,919 was a success story. We showed 8856 06:10:37,919 --> 06:10:40,919 grace. And you showed grace. 8857 06:10:42,990 --> 06:10:43,691 And it's a winner in my view. 8858 06:10:43,691 --> 06:10:44,625 But again, I will be calling 8859 06:10:44,625 --> 06:10:45,593 you because I will get people 8860 06:10:45,593 --> 06:10:49,193 to go to your business. Thank 8861 06:10:49,363 --> 06:10:50,464 you. 8862 06:10:50,464 --> 06:10:51,465 >> I want to say a few things, 8863 06:10:51,465 --> 06:10:51,999 first of all we came to my 8864 06:10:51,999 --> 06:10:52,834 office, I appreciated the 8865 06:10:52,834 --> 06:10:55,834 conversation and I want to 8866 06:10:57,871 --> 06:10:58,873 support small businesses, and I 8867 06:10:58,873 --> 06:10:59,774 support process. I will vote 8868 06:10:59,774 --> 06:11:00,700 for this because it's a good 8869 06:11:00,700 --> 06:11:01,275 project. 8870 06:11:01,275 --> 06:11:04,875 But also going to keep harping 8871 06:11:06,414 --> 06:11:07,415 on process because people who 8872 06:11:07,415 --> 06:11:08,150 sat in his seat know better 8873 06:11:08,150 --> 06:11:11,150 because when you know better 8874 06:11:13,721 --> 06:11:14,755 you do better. 8875 06:11:14,755 --> 06:11:15,356 Let me make myself very clear, 8876 06:11:15,356 --> 06:11:16,224 process matters. I will not 8877 06:11:16,224 --> 06:11:16,557 hold of a project because of 8878 06:11:16,557 --> 06:11:18,557 process, yet. 8879 06:11:24,999 --> 06:11:25,867 There MAY come a time when I 8880 06:11:25,867 --> 06:11:26,868 decided one vote for something 8881 06:11:26,868 --> 06:11:27,568 because people are skirting the 8882 06:11:27,568 --> 06:11:28,870 process. I don't like that. 8883 06:11:28,870 --> 06:11:29,537 Because transparency matters. 8884 06:11:29,537 --> 06:11:33,737 It's not fair to come here with 8885 06:11:34,575 --> 06:11:35,476 a last-minute change while were 8886 06:11:35,476 --> 06:11:36,143 on the dais. It happened once 8887 06:11:36,143 --> 06:11:37,712 today and he said something, 8888 06:11:37,712 --> 06:11:38,346 say something again. 8889 06:11:38,346 --> 06:11:39,280 Because they keep saying 8890 06:11:39,280 --> 06:11:42,280 something and again there comes 8891 06:11:46,420 --> 06:11:47,540 a point where it won't be as 8892 06:11:47,540 --> 06:11:47,688 gracious. But I want to heard a 8893 06:11:47,688 --> 06:11:48,689 small business owner, I don't 8894 06:11:48,689 --> 06:11:49,290 want to hurt somebody who's 8895 06:11:49,290 --> 06:11:49,690 been earnest trying to work 8896 06:11:49,690 --> 06:11:50,658 with the county. 8897 06:11:50,658 --> 06:11:54,428 I don't want to do that. I know 8898 06:11:54,428 --> 06:11:55,950 you've been through a lot elder 8899 06:11:55,950 --> 06:11:58,132 and been through a lot with 8900 06:11:58,132 --> 06:11:59,167 this process. 8901 06:11:59,167 --> 06:12:02,767 It gets ugly sometimes. I do 8902 06:12:06,400 --> 06:12:07,740 appreciate -- I appreciate 8903 06:12:07,740 --> 06:12:07,675 greatly. It shows you are a man 8904 06:12:07,675 --> 06:12:09,277 of integrity. 8905 06:12:09,277 --> 06:12:14,770 And if you want to be an asset 8906 06:12:14,816 --> 06:12:15,483 to this community. 8907 06:12:15,483 --> 06:12:16,416 But I will say to everyone 8908 06:12:16,416 --> 06:12:19,416 else, process matters. I want 8909 06:12:22,590 --> 06:12:23,324 to get another last-minute 8910 06:12:23,324 --> 06:12:24,192 proper adjustment. I don't know 8911 06:12:24,192 --> 06:12:27,792 how to make that anymore clear 8912 06:12:31,265 --> 06:12:32,333 to anyone. 8913 06:12:32,333 --> 06:12:32,934 This part needs to stop. Again, 8914 06:12:32,934 --> 06:12:33,768 I don't want to hurt a small 8915 06:12:33,768 --> 06:12:36,168 business process because of 8916 06:12:40,875 --> 06:12:41,409 other people sloppiness but 8917 06:12:41,409 --> 06:12:42,376 perhaps it's laziness or 8918 06:12:42,376 --> 06:12:42,844 perhaps I don't know what it 8919 06:12:42,844 --> 06:12:43,411 is. But that I do not 8920 06:12:43,411 --> 06:12:45,411 appreciate. Especially from 8921 06:12:47,348 --> 06:12:48,490 people who have sat on this day 8922 06:12:48,490 --> 06:12:49,217 is. I take this role seriously. 8923 06:12:49,217 --> 06:12:49,917 And for them to make decisions, 8924 06:12:49,917 --> 06:12:53,517 we need to make decisions we 8925 06:12:54,956 --> 06:12:55,823 need to redo everything because 8926 06:12:55,823 --> 06:12:58,823 that's what the public expects 8927 06:13:00,194 --> 06:13:01,162 from us. 8928 06:13:01,162 --> 06:13:03,164 There are a lot of people who 8929 06:13:03,164 --> 06:13:04,198 are upset. 8930 06:13:04,198 --> 06:13:07,100 About this project. We've heard 8931 06:13:07,100 --> 06:13:08,200 them out. 8932 06:13:08,200 --> 06:13:08,536 I've read their emails and 8933 06:13:08,536 --> 06:13:10,738 listen to their concerns. 8934 06:13:10,738 --> 06:13:14,338 I want to do anything that 8935 06:13:14,575 --> 06:13:16,975 undermines the integrity and 8936 06:13:20,848 --> 06:13:21,616 the trust of people placing us 8937 06:13:21,616 --> 06:13:22,216 in place in our 8938 06:13:22,216 --> 06:13:23,170 decision-making, that's why 8939 06:13:23,170 --> 06:13:24,352 process also really matters. 8940 06:13:24,352 --> 06:13:27,952 But again, I'm not going to 8941 06:13:28,389 --> 06:13:29,290 hold up a good project because 8942 06:13:29,290 --> 06:13:33,490 of a sloppy process. I won't do 8943 06:13:35,129 --> 06:13:36,960 that. 8944 06:13:36,960 --> 06:13:36,664 We have a business that's 8945 06:13:36,664 --> 06:13:37,498 needed. You have a business 8946 06:13:37,498 --> 06:13:37,798 that employs people and brings 8947 06:13:37,798 --> 06:13:39,798 more jobs. 8948 06:13:40,334 --> 06:13:41,680 That a data center. 8949 06:13:41,680 --> 06:13:42,737 And we do have a problem in 8950 06:13:42,737 --> 06:13:45,737 this county with having enough 8951 06:13:47,975 --> 06:13:48,676 land for businesses like yours. 8952 06:13:48,676 --> 06:13:49,577 That's a common thing I hear 8953 06:13:49,577 --> 06:13:52,713 from a lot of business owners 8954 06:13:52,713 --> 06:13:53,347 and economic development. 8955 06:13:53,347 --> 06:13:55,416 We also know we need to 8956 06:13:55,416 --> 06:13:56,830 diversify our local economy. 8957 06:13:56,830 --> 06:13:59,683 And so that is very important 8958 06:14:00,655 --> 06:14:01,656 to me. 8959 06:14:01,656 --> 06:14:02,657 So that is another reason I'm 8960 06:14:02,657 --> 06:14:04,657 supporting this application. 8961 06:14:06,260 --> 06:14:06,961 But to keep beating the dead 8962 06:14:06,961 --> 06:14:10,464 horse and bringing up after I 8963 06:14:10,464 --> 06:14:11,980 boarded, process matters so for 8964 06:14:11,980 --> 06:14:12,800 everyone on this day is. Other 8965 06:14:12,800 --> 06:14:14,800 land-use attorneys, process 8966 06:14:16,637 --> 06:14:17,405 matters. 8967 06:14:17,405 --> 06:14:18,706 Okay process matters. I will 8968 06:14:18,706 --> 06:14:20,706 get a t-shirt. 8969 06:14:22,777 --> 06:14:23,478 Put a hashtag on it. 8970 06:14:23,478 --> 06:14:26,478 Process matters. I don't want 8971 06:14:27,548 --> 06:14:28,916 another sloppy process like we 8972 06:14:28,916 --> 06:14:32,516 had tonight. So with that, I 8973 06:14:41,262 --> 06:14:44,262 will call for a vote. 8974 06:14:46,834 --> 06:14:48,834 Vote unanimous. 8975 06:14:48,903 --> 06:14:51,903 >> okay thank you very much. 8976 06:14:54,108 --> 06:14:54,809 We are going to move on to 8977 06:14:54,809 --> 06:14:55,610 public comment on. We can let 8978 06:14:55,610 --> 06:14:58,100 the other people leave. 8979 06:15:40,621 --> 06:15:41,589 All 8980 06:15:41,589 --> 06:15:42,256 right. We are moving on to 8981 06:15:42,256 --> 06:15:43,124 agenda item number 15 and that 8982 06:15:43,124 --> 06:15:44,125 is public comment on. I have 8983 06:15:44,125 --> 06:15:47,725 two people signed up to speak. 8984 06:15:50,965 --> 06:15:51,966 In person. 8985 06:15:51,966 --> 06:15:52,600 I have again, the rules are you 8986 06:15:52,600 --> 06:15:53,601 go to the back, please adjust 8987 06:15:53,601 --> 06:15:56,871 the microphone so we hear you 8988 06:15:56,871 --> 06:15:57,839 again by stating your name and 8989 06:15:57,839 --> 06:15:58,406 the magisterial district where 8990 06:15:58,406 --> 06:15:59,307 you reside. You have three 8991 06:15:59,307 --> 06:16:00,473 minutes and there will be a 8992 06:16:00,473 --> 06:16:04,673 timer so please go to the back 8993 06:16:16,791 --> 06:16:19,694 I have greg, and melody miller. 8994 06:16:19,694 --> 06:16:23,894 I am greg matherne I think it 8995 06:16:27,335 --> 06:16:28,336 is we are losing supervisors 8996 06:16:28,336 --> 06:16:29,337 and that's incredibly 8997 06:16:29,337 --> 06:16:29,904 disrespectful. But besides 8998 06:16:29,904 --> 06:16:31,706 that, I want to talk today 8999 06:16:31,706 --> 06:16:32,607 about cameras another oddity 9000 06:16:32,607 --> 06:16:34,607 automated license plate 9001 06:16:37,578 --> 06:16:38,579 readers. 9002 06:16:38,579 --> 06:16:39,247 The police department website 9003 06:16:39,247 --> 06:16:41,749 spoke to the agency briefly 9004 06:16:41,749 --> 06:16:42,650 regarding the use of alp ours. 9005 06:16:42,650 --> 06:16:46,530 I take them at their word and 9006 06:16:46,530 --> 06:16:47,540 they tell us they are useful to 9007 06:16:47,540 --> 06:16:47,622 solve and prevent crime. The 9008 06:16:47,622 --> 06:16:51,222 reality though is is not a 9009 06:16:53,261 --> 06:16:54,950 question of when, medical or 9010 06:16:54,950 --> 06:16:54,962 not a question of if but a 9011 06:16:54,962 --> 06:16:55,563 question of when that 9012 06:16:55,563 --> 06:16:56,664 information will be used 9013 06:16:56,664 --> 06:16:56,998 improperly by folks. I work for 9014 06:16:56,998 --> 06:16:58,998 a federal 9015 06:17:01,200 --> 06:17:01,869 agency, I criminal 9016 06:17:01,869 --> 06:17:04,869 offense punishable by year in 9017 06:17:12,713 --> 06:17:13,281 jail thousand dollar fine to 9018 06:17:13,281 --> 06:17:14,348 lick improperly look up a 9019 06:17:14,348 --> 06:17:15,282 citizens information. That does 9020 06:17:15,282 --> 06:17:16,170 not exist for the use of these 9021 06:17:16,170 --> 06:17:16,818 cameras. We have seen time and 9022 06:17:16,818 --> 06:17:19,218 time again throughout the 9023 06:17:19,887 --> 06:17:20,822 country at law enforcement and 9024 06:17:20,822 --> 06:17:21,889 others who have access to these 9025 06:17:21,889 --> 06:17:22,223 cameras improperly use them to 9026 06:17:22,223 --> 06:17:22,824 track people. 9027 06:17:22,824 --> 06:17:26,424 We have seen them use these 9028 06:17:29,397 --> 06:17:30,364 cameras to stock former 9029 06:17:30,364 --> 06:17:31,265 romantic acquaintances, to stop 9030 06:17:31,265 --> 06:17:32,567 people they just randomly not. 9031 06:17:32,567 --> 06:17:34,967 We've seen this information 9032 06:17:36,904 --> 06:17:37,605 used to track women seeking 9033 06:17:37,605 --> 06:17:39,605 healthcare because somebody 9034 06:17:40,374 --> 06:17:41,342 decided a women didn't deserve 9035 06:17:41,342 --> 06:17:44,342 healthcare. We have seen a 9036 06:17:44,579 --> 06:17:45,613 systems fail and result in 9037 06:17:45,613 --> 06:17:46,547 people pulled over on the side 9038 06:17:46,547 --> 06:17:50,147 of the road at gunpoint because 9039 06:17:50,685 --> 06:17:52,186 there was an error in the 9040 06:17:52,186 --> 06:17:52,787 system in prince william county 9041 06:17:52,787 --> 06:17:55,187 is employing and contributing 9042 06:18:04,432 --> 06:18:05,433 to the problem. 9043 06:18:05,433 --> 06:18:06,400 Flock to both its camera has an 9044 06:18:06,400 --> 06:18:07,340 accuracy rate over 90%. But 9045 06:18:07,340 --> 06:18:07,902 even at 97%, in our county if 9046 06:18:07,902 --> 06:18:08,903 every citizen went by one of 9047 06:18:08,903 --> 06:18:09,470 those cameras, just once, we 9048 06:18:09,470 --> 06:18:09,670 would have 15,000 errors a 9049 06:18:09,670 --> 06:18:11,670 month. 9050 06:18:12,138 --> 06:18:12,240 flock is scanning billions 9051 06:18:12,240 --> 06:18:13,274 , 9052 06:18:13,274 --> 06:18:15,543 billions of license plates 9053 06:18:15,543 --> 06:18:17,543 every year. 9054 06:18:23,885 --> 06:18:24,886 Resulting in tens of millions 9055 06:18:24,886 --> 06:18:25,887 of incorrect reports. These 9056 06:18:25,887 --> 06:18:26,554 errors are going to get someone 9057 06:18:26,554 --> 06:18:30,154 killed. And, if you continue to 9058 06:18:30,625 --> 06:18:31,359 allow flock to be used in this 9059 06:18:31,359 --> 06:18:32,627 county, you all, every single 9060 06:18:32,627 --> 06:18:33,227 one of you up on that guys will 9061 06:18:33,227 --> 06:18:34,128 have personal culpability in 9062 06:18:34,128 --> 06:18:37,128 the death of someone. Flock 9063 06:18:43,437 --> 06:18:44,238 might be a tool that can solve 9064 06:18:44,238 --> 06:18:44,839 some crimes coming at the 9065 06:18:44,839 --> 06:18:45,673 expense of our rights as 9066 06:18:45,673 --> 06:18:46,674 citizens to be free of the 9067 06:18:46,674 --> 06:18:47,674 constant surveillance of the 9068 06:18:47,674 --> 06:18:48,276 state. The systems were in 9069 06:18:48,276 --> 06:18:48,876 coprincipal 80 years ago but 9070 06:18:48,876 --> 06:18:51,112 they were the very basis of 9071 06:18:51,112 --> 06:18:52,113 george orwell. 9072 06:18:52,113 --> 06:18:54,382 Big brother when he wrote about 9073 06:18:54,382 --> 06:18:55,149 that in 1984. 1984 was not a 9074 06:18:55,149 --> 06:18:58,190 roadmap. It was a warning. 9075 06:18:58,190 --> 06:19:00,788 And you should all be very 9076 06:19:00,788 --> 06:19:01,756 cognizant of that. 9077 06:19:01,756 --> 06:19:05,356 I'm calling on this board to 9078 06:19:08,329 --> 06:19:09,363 require the prince william 9079 06:19:09,363 --> 06:19:10,331 county police department to 9080 06:19:10,331 --> 06:19:13,331 remove all flock cameras and 9081 06:19:17,705 --> 06:19:18,573 prohibit the use of such 9082 06:19:18,573 --> 06:19:19,574 cameras in the future. You 9083 06:19:19,574 --> 06:19:20,541 engage in during our lives and 9084 06:19:20,541 --> 06:19:21,420 surveilling the people, it is 9085 06:19:21,420 --> 06:19:22,476 unacceptable. 9086 06:19:22,476 --> 06:19:24,476 >> next speaker please. 9087 06:19:28,416 --> 06:19:28,950 >> thanks again, I will make a 9088 06:19:28,950 --> 06:19:29,116 quick close-up my name is 9089 06:19:29,116 --> 06:19:31,116 melody 9090 06:19:47,368 --> 06:19:48,402 miller. 9091 06:19:48,402 --> 06:19:48,970 I was prepared on 14b but I 9092 06:19:48,970 --> 06:19:49,570 want take a moment say I'm 9093 06:19:49,570 --> 06:19:50,872 disappointed in the approval 9094 06:19:50,872 --> 06:19:51,439 you just gave you that after we 9095 06:19:51,439 --> 06:19:51,973 set it for 90 minutes talk 9096 06:19:51,973 --> 06:19:52,874 about how they follow the 9097 06:19:52,874 --> 06:19:53,541 process. You actually have the 9098 06:19:53,541 --> 06:19:54,375 option to deferred after 30 9099 06:19:54,375 --> 06:19:55,375 days, give the public the 9100 06:19:55,375 --> 06:19:56,377 opportunity to review those 9101 06:19:56,377 --> 06:19:57,378 properties that came today 9102 06:19:57,378 --> 06:19:57,979 because I haven't seen them, 9103 06:19:57,979 --> 06:19:58,913 the public hasn't seen them, 9104 06:19:58,913 --> 06:20:02,550 and do this the right way even 9105 06:20:02,550 --> 06:20:03,384 if is not a cpa, you absolutely 9106 06:20:03,384 --> 06:20:04,318 have the opportunity to give 9107 06:20:04,318 --> 06:20:05,286 the public that information 9108 06:20:05,286 --> 06:20:07,686 interactively chose not to. 9109 06:20:10,358 --> 06:20:11,250 Citizens in this county have a 9110 06:20:11,250 --> 06:20:12,260 right to know what the board is 9111 06:20:12,260 --> 06:20:12,560 approving. You extensively work 9112 06:20:12,560 --> 06:20:13,361 for us. So I just want to 9113 06:20:13,361 --> 06:20:16,961 remind you guys they did have 9114 06:20:19,567 --> 06:20:20,268 an option to differ 9115 06:20:20,268 --> 06:20:21,102 interactively chose not to. 30 9116 06:20:21,102 --> 06:20:22,690 days would not made a 9117 06:20:22,690 --> 06:20:22,737 difference to a small business. 9118 06:20:22,737 --> 06:20:23,571 As a small business owner, I 9119 06:20:23,571 --> 06:20:24,572 can say that very truly. 9120 06:20:24,572 --> 06:20:26,908 What I wanted to address my 9121 06:20:26,908 --> 06:20:30,508 last two minutes is to the 9122 06:20:34,150 --> 06:20:34,916 early admission about data 9123 06:20:34,916 --> 06:20:35,817 center development for 14 b. I 9124 06:20:35,817 --> 06:20:39,860 totally get that. I want to 9125 06:20:39,860 --> 06:20:39,987 remind the board again that 9126 06:20:39,987 --> 06:20:40,988 even though you can't require 9127 06:20:40,988 --> 06:20:43,388 certain things under virginia 9128 06:20:59,207 --> 06:20:59,807 code, you do retain full cite 9129 06:20:59,807 --> 06:21:00,441 authority over the site plan 9130 06:21:00,441 --> 06:21:01,309 subdivision plot and building 9131 06:21:01,309 --> 06:21:02,343 permit approval so when they do 9132 06:21:02,343 --> 06:21:03,177 come back since you've differed 9133 06:21:03,177 --> 06:21:03,878 it, I urge you to use that 9134 06:21:03,878 --> 06:21:04,679 power, urge you to impose the 9135 06:21:04,679 --> 06:21:05,680 maximum allowable physical 9136 06:21:05,680 --> 06:21:06,380 conditions or site plan review. 9137 06:21:06,380 --> 06:21:07,715 Conditions imposed must relate 9138 06:21:07,715 --> 06:21:08,315 to public health safety and 9139 06:21:08,315 --> 06:21:10,715 welfare fully authorized and 9140 06:21:14,322 --> 06:21:15,323 include environmental impacts 9141 06:21:15,323 --> 06:21:16,357 on citizens. I asked that you 9142 06:21:16,357 --> 06:21:16,991 demand the full of the 9143 06:21:16,991 --> 06:21:17,859 structure analysis, this is 150 9144 06:21:17,859 --> 06:21:18,920 mw data center. Two new codes, 9145 06:21:18,920 --> 06:21:18,425 15.2 b 9146 06:21:18,425 --> 06:21:19,930 20.904 which the 9147 06:21:19,930 --> 06:21:21,930 high-energy's facility 9148 06:21:26,133 --> 06:21:26,400 assessment law in virginia code 9149 06:21:26,400 --> 06:21:26,901 is 62.1 b 9150 06:21:26,901 --> 06:21:28,135 4438 which is the 9151 06:21:28,135 --> 06:21:28,803 data center use six closure 9152 06:21:28,803 --> 06:21:31,803 also another 64 that came out 9153 06:21:36,210 --> 06:21:36,878 but you can't and you should 9154 06:21:36,878 --> 06:21:37,712 full analysis on capacity 9155 06:21:37,712 --> 06:21:38,412 especially tmj warning a full 9156 06:21:38,412 --> 06:21:39,313 disclosure of water consumption 9157 06:21:39,313 --> 06:21:40,181 impacts on the reservoir which 9158 06:21:40,181 --> 06:21:42,150 is 8 inches full or normal. 9159 06:21:42,150 --> 06:21:45,750 And the great cost that will 9160 06:21:48,156 --> 06:21:48,890 fall on ratepayers. 9161 06:21:48,890 --> 06:21:50,158 I would urge you to bid beveled 9162 06:21:50,158 --> 06:21:51,893 nature on the public record 9163 06:21:51,893 --> 06:21:52,793 environmental financial social 9164 06:21:52,793 --> 06:21:53,361 before any approval goes 9165 06:21:53,361 --> 06:21:54,829 forward also as you demand 9166 06:21:54,829 --> 06:21:55,696 voluntary commitments and put 9167 06:21:55,696 --> 06:21:57,640 them on record. You can't 9168 06:21:57,640 --> 06:22:00,640 require proffers and by rectum 9169 06:22:01,636 --> 06:22:02,537 a I understand that. But you 9170 06:22:02,537 --> 06:22:05,537 can request a public document 9171 06:22:09,343 --> 06:22:10,344 commitments and hold them 9172 06:22:10,344 --> 06:22:10,912 accountable. So I can't require 9173 06:22:10,912 --> 06:22:11,846 them to offer it, you can 9174 06:22:11,846 --> 06:22:15,149 certainly ask them and then you 9175 06:22:15,149 --> 06:22:16,150 can hold them to what they 9176 06:22:16,150 --> 06:22:17,150 promised. Can create a public 9177 06:22:17,150 --> 06:22:20,750 record of what an applicant was 9178 06:22:22,523 --> 06:22:23,524 unwilling to commit to. 9179 06:22:23,524 --> 06:22:24,192 And protect county citizens 9180 06:22:24,192 --> 06:22:25,493 from brainwashing. Again, by 9181 06:22:25,493 --> 06:22:26,194 right does not need direct to 9182 06:22:26,194 --> 06:22:28,729 the community so I encourage 9183 06:22:28,729 --> 06:22:29,630 you to use the tools at your 9184 06:22:29,630 --> 06:22:32,630 review, the power vested you 9185 06:22:40,741 --> 06:22:41,742 under the authority and protect 9186 06:22:41,742 --> 06:22:42,710 our watersheds and citizens and 9187 06:22:42,710 --> 06:22:43,444 future. Thank you so much. 9188 06:22:43,444 --> 06:22:44,445 >> thank you so much, I'll turn 9189 06:22:44,445 --> 06:22:45,213 to supervisor angry for remote 9190 06:22:45,213 --> 06:22:45,913 public comment time. 9191 06:22:45,913 --> 06:22:46,247 >> do we have any remote 9192 06:22:46,247 --> 06:22:47,810 speakers? 9193 06:22:47,810 --> 06:22:47,515 >> yes we do. Our first speaker 9194 06:22:47,515 --> 06:22:49,515 is chris growth. 9195 06:22:50,718 --> 06:22:52,718 >> go ahead. 9196 06:22:53,955 --> 06:22:54,455 >> sorry chris, can you do for 9197 06:22:54,455 --> 06:22:57,455 me to the next person. 9198 06:23:01,462 --> 06:23:04,699 >> okay. I believe we can do 9199 06:23:04,699 --> 06:23:05,666 that. 9200 06:23:05,666 --> 06:23:07,802 >> 'ssecond speaker our next 9201 06:23:07,802 --> 06:23:10,802 speaker will be MISS Jessica 9202 06:23:11,806 --> 06:23:12,707 grove. 9203 06:23:12,707 --> 06:23:14,509 >> this grove go-ahead. 9204 06:23:14,509 --> 06:23:17,509 >> this is jessica grove, I 9205 06:23:19,514 --> 06:23:21,983 just want to say that it was 9206 06:23:21,983 --> 06:23:24,983 mentioned before with the hydro 9207 06:23:25,353 --> 06:23:28,890 property that is difficult to 9208 06:23:28,890 --> 06:23:30,424 find properties within prince 9209 06:23:30,424 --> 06:23:33,424 william county and that they 9210 06:23:38,766 --> 06:23:39,834 are moving 9211 06:23:39,834 --> 06:23:40,568 , businesses are 9212 06:23:40,568 --> 06:23:41,536 moving out, small businesses 9213 06:23:41,536 --> 06:23:42,703 are moving out because they can 9214 06:23:42,703 --> 06:23:43,337 afford to be here and I want to 9215 06:23:43,337 --> 06:23:43,938 remind the board that the 9216 06:23:43,938 --> 06:23:44,872 decisions that have been made 9217 06:23:44,872 --> 06:23:46,274 by this board are what is 9218 06:23:46,274 --> 06:23:49,874 causing that to happen and it 9219 06:23:51,411 --> 06:23:54,411 has been said by christina 9220 06:23:56,317 --> 06:23:57,510 when, several times, before, 9221 06:23:57,510 --> 06:23:57,885 that because of all these data 9222 06:23:57,885 --> 06:24:00,285 center approvals, because you 9223 06:24:02,156 --> 06:24:03,591 are proving cpa initiations, 9224 06:24:03,591 --> 06:24:07,791 the cost of land in this area 9225 06:24:11,566 --> 06:24:11,799 has skyrocketed to levels 9226 06:24:11,799 --> 06:24:12,732 , the 9227 06:24:12,732 --> 06:24:15,132 normal homeowner or normal 9228 06:24:17,538 --> 06:24:19,538 business cannot afford. 9229 06:24:22,610 --> 06:24:23,211 The problems that we are seeing 9230 06:24:23,211 --> 06:24:24,679 in the county for small 9231 06:24:24,679 --> 06:24:26,614 businesses you guys have 9232 06:24:26,614 --> 06:24:27,448 caused. 9233 06:24:27,448 --> 06:24:30,251 And I would like some 9234 06:24:30,251 --> 06:24:32,251 acknowledgment towards that. 9235 06:24:33,855 --> 06:24:35,156 For future cpas that you guys 9236 06:24:35,156 --> 06:24:38,756 seem to be allowing to come 9237 06:24:44,499 --> 06:24:46,899 forward that are troublesome. 9238 06:24:47,680 --> 06:24:50,638 I know I've said this before 9239 06:24:50,638 --> 06:24:51,305 and I'm going to say it again. 9240 06:24:51,305 --> 06:24:53,841 In the western and we are 9241 06:24:53,841 --> 06:24:56,241 dealing with predatory land 9242 06:24:59,112 --> 06:24:59,847 developers that it is 9243 06:24:59,847 --> 06:25:01,315 impossible, the decisions you 9244 06:25:01,315 --> 06:25:04,519 guys have made in the past are 9245 06:25:04,519 --> 06:25:05,486 causing people to flee and they 9246 06:25:05,486 --> 06:25:09,860 are causing people to take what 9247 06:25:09,157 --> 06:25:10,158 they can get and screw the rest 9248 06:25:10,158 --> 06:25:13,758 of the community while they are 9249 06:25:15,530 --> 06:25:16,264 added. 9250 06:25:16,264 --> 06:25:17,630 and I will say it over and over 9251 06:25:17,630 --> 06:25:18,320 and over again. This is a 9252 06:25:18,320 --> 06:25:19,834 community, you guys are 9253 06:25:19,834 --> 06:25:21,669 representing us as homeowners, 9254 06:25:21,669 --> 06:25:23,803 as residents, and as humans and 9255 06:25:23,803 --> 06:25:26,803 the decisions that you make 9256 06:25:31,679 --> 06:25:32,313 should not always be based on 9257 06:25:32,313 --> 06:25:33,181 money or profits for certain 9258 06:25:33,181 --> 06:25:33,848 people. It should be based on 9259 06:25:33,848 --> 06:25:34,715 the quality of life and the 9260 06:25:34,715 --> 06:25:37,840 health and well-being of the 9261 06:25:37,840 --> 06:25:37,985 residents who are here. 9262 06:25:37,985 --> 06:25:42,185 And made it what it is. Thank 9263 06:25:42,824 --> 06:25:43,858 you. 9264 06:25:43,858 --> 06:25:44,225 >> thank you ma'am. Next 9265 06:25:44,225 --> 06:25:46,225 speaker please. 9266 06:25:47,261 --> 06:25:47,962 >> next speaker is MR. Grove. 9267 06:25:47,962 --> 06:25:49,962 >> appreciate that. Chris 9268 06:25:57,306 --> 06:26:01,506 grove, also, vp of the hoa. But 9269 06:26:02,376 --> 06:26:05,376 I want take much time. 9270 06:26:08,816 --> 06:26:09,150 I appreciate your comment 9271 06:26:09,150 --> 06:26:10,151 , you 9272 06:26:10,151 --> 06:26:11,850 don't necessarily want to ask a 9273 06:26:11,850 --> 06:26:13,488 question or go to the cpa 9274 06:26:13,488 --> 06:26:14,555 process as it could open you up 9275 06:26:14,555 --> 06:26:17,158 to more things I do appreciate 9276 06:26:17,158 --> 06:26:18,920 that. 9277 06:26:18,920 --> 06:26:21,562 One thing I am pleased that you 9278 06:26:21,562 --> 06:26:22,430 did 9279 06:26:22,430 --> 06:26:23,764 , while considering this, he 9280 06:26:23,764 --> 06:26:26,764 listens to your planning staff. 9281 06:26:28,736 --> 06:26:29,437 That's great. 9282 06:26:29,437 --> 06:26:33,370 The planning staff you need to 9283 06:26:33,400 --> 06:26:33,975 listen to the citizens, the 9284 06:26:33,975 --> 06:26:36,544 residents of the district. I am 9285 06:26:36,544 --> 06:26:37,245 pleased that you actually 9286 06:26:37,245 --> 06:26:39,347 showed deference to supervisor 9287 06:26:39,347 --> 06:26:41,649 gordie as the district 9288 06:26:41,649 --> 06:26:44,649 supervisor letting him lead the 9289 06:26:46,487 --> 06:26:48,189 way and how that decision went. 9290 06:26:48,189 --> 06:26:50,424 Conversely, I would like to say 9291 06:26:50,424 --> 06:26:54,240 from the last meeting when men 9292 06:26:54,629 --> 06:26:54,795 assess preserve estates 9293 06:26:54,795 --> 06:26:56,795 , I'm 9294 06:26:57,598 --> 06:26:59,998 very disappointed in the 9295 06:27:04,205 --> 06:27:05,172 board's unwillingness to listen 9296 06:27:05,172 --> 06:27:05,806 to the planning staff. He 9297 06:27:05,806 --> 06:27:06,674 listened, paid and really give 9298 06:27:06,674 --> 06:27:09,674 them much respect and value 9299 06:27:11,245 --> 06:27:11,913 their opinions. 9300 06:27:11,913 --> 06:27:12,747 their professional opinions 9301 06:27:12,747 --> 06:27:13,748 because they do this for a 9302 06:27:13,748 --> 06:27:15,820 living. And I also, I would've 9303 06:27:15,820 --> 06:27:16,830 appreciated if you had shown 9304 06:27:16,830 --> 06:27:18,483 deference to supervisor stewart 9305 06:27:20,121 --> 06:27:20,922 because he is the district 9306 06:27:20,922 --> 06:27:23,322 supervisor for gainesville. And 9307 06:27:24,910 --> 06:27:26,127 he was certainly not willing to 9308 06:27:26,127 --> 06:27:26,260 put his thumb about approval 9309 06:27:26,260 --> 06:27:28,260 , 9310 06:27:32,900 --> 06:27:33,967 his stamp of approval -- as we 9311 06:27:33,967 --> 06:27:36,637 go through the cpa process with 9312 06:27:36,637 --> 06:27:39,400 those, I hope you do show him 9313 06:27:39,400 --> 06:27:42,400 some deference on what he 9314 06:27:43,611 --> 06:27:44,312 believes is right for his 9315 06:27:44,312 --> 06:27:46,712 constituents in his district 9316 06:27:50,585 --> 06:27:51,519 because you will have a lot of 9317 06:27:51,519 --> 06:27:52,487 us peeking out from a personal 9318 06:27:52,487 --> 06:27:54,155 side and from a professional 9319 06:27:54,155 --> 06:27:54,856 side. 9320 06:27:54,856 --> 06:27:56,491 So I just, I want you to keep 9321 06:27:56,491 --> 06:27:58,491 that in mind. 9322 06:27:59,927 --> 06:28:00,728 The job. 9323 06:28:00,728 --> 06:28:04,328 I'm not really pleased with how 9324 06:28:04,365 --> 06:28:06,365 it went. 9325 06:28:11,572 --> 06:28:12,707 The gentleman that's really 9326 06:28:12,707 --> 06:28:13,374 well with his business. But 9327 06:28:13,374 --> 06:28:14,800 also respects his neighbors and 9328 06:28:14,800 --> 06:28:14,175 keep that in mind. Thank you 9329 06:28:14,175 --> 06:28:16,175 all. 9330 06:28:23,518 --> 06:28:24,519 >> thank you sir. Next speaker. 9331 06:28:24,519 --> 06:28:25,190 >> that was our last speaker. 9332 06:28:25,190 --> 06:28:25,820 Thank you very much. 9333 06:28:25,820 --> 06:28:26,420 >> thank you chris. 9334 06:28:26,420 --> 06:28:29,420 >> thank you so very much, 9335 06:28:29,857 --> 06:28:30,240 let's move on to agenda item 9336 06:28:30,240 --> 06:28:30,892 16. 9337 06:28:30,892 --> 06:28:31,859 >> manager, before we motion to 9338 06:28:31,859 --> 06:28:34,695 adjourn, I just quickly, I want 9339 06:28:34,695 --> 06:28:35,830 ali denied 9340 06:28:35,830 --> 06:28:36,831 , I want to know 9341 06:28:36,831 --> 06:28:37,398 which direction you want to go 9342 06:28:37,398 --> 06:28:40,998 and get the opinion of the 9343 06:28:44,872 --> 06:28:45,573 county attorney. 9344 06:28:45,573 --> 06:28:46,507 I understand your frustration 9345 06:28:46,507 --> 06:28:47,375 and a shift to a certain extent 9346 06:28:47,375 --> 06:28:48,750 but I think that people that 9347 06:28:48,750 --> 06:28:48,943 conduct business in this county 9348 06:28:48,943 --> 06:28:49,877 also need clarity. Is this 9349 06:28:49,877 --> 06:28:50,845 something that we are going to 9350 06:28:50,845 --> 06:28:54,415 take on and are there any legal 9351 06:28:54,415 --> 06:28:55,383 considerations mdm. County 9352 06:28:55,383 --> 06:28:56,417 attorney when it comes to 9353 06:28:56,417 --> 06:28:56,984 last-minute proffers because it 9354 06:28:56,984 --> 06:28:59,384 happens all the time. 9355 06:29:05,293 --> 06:29:06,930 And so you know, to single out 9356 06:29:06,930 --> 06:29:06,861 somebody here tonight, I think 9357 06:29:06,861 --> 06:29:07,895 is to an extent unfair if 9358 06:29:07,895 --> 06:29:08,830 that's the message we will send 9359 06:29:08,830 --> 06:29:09,764 I'm fine with sending it but I 9360 06:29:09,764 --> 06:29:10,398 just want to know what the 9361 06:29:10,398 --> 06:29:13,340 process is if there is one or 9362 06:29:13,340 --> 06:29:13,801 if legally 9363 06:29:13,801 --> 06:29:15,801 , applicants are 9364 06:29:16,537 --> 06:29:19,537 within the right to provide 9365 06:29:21,420 --> 06:29:21,542 last-minute proffers changes to 9366 06:29:21,542 --> 06:29:23,542 this board? 9367 06:29:24,712 --> 06:29:26,647 >> manager members of the 9368 06:29:26,647 --> 06:29:27,315 board, when the agenda is 9369 06:29:27,315 --> 06:29:28,749 published, all the documents 9370 06:29:28,749 --> 06:29:29,383 need to be available. 9371 06:29:29,383 --> 06:29:30,318 But the law the code of 9372 06:29:30,318 --> 06:29:33,421 virginia does allow at a public 9373 06:29:33,421 --> 06:29:37,210 hearing for changes to be made 9374 06:29:38,559 --> 06:29:39,527 so they can be made. 9375 06:29:39,527 --> 06:29:41,950 But I understand the board's 9376 06:29:41,950 --> 06:29:43,950 frustration. 9377 06:29:44,650 --> 06:29:44,832 That it has become more of a 9378 06:29:44,832 --> 06:29:46,300 rule of changes right at the 9379 06:29:46,300 --> 06:29:48,302 last minute instead of the 9380 06:29:48,302 --> 06:29:49,303 exception. 9381 06:29:49,303 --> 06:29:52,903 You are at this time currently 9382 06:29:56,377 --> 06:29:57,110 allowed to accept changes at a 9383 06:29:57,110 --> 06:29:57,879 public hearing. But once they 9384 06:29:57,879 --> 06:30:00,279 advertisement is made, the 9385 06:30:02,984 --> 06:30:03,851 documents need to be ready. 9386 06:30:03,851 --> 06:30:04,619 >> manager, if I MAY. 9387 06:30:04,619 --> 06:30:05,520 >> it did. Thank you. How would 9388 06:30:05,520 --> 06:30:06,721 you suggest to my colleagues at 9389 06:30:06,721 --> 06:30:09,721 if it matters within our 9390 06:30:12,192 --> 06:30:13,194 district that we do our very 9391 06:30:13,194 --> 06:30:17,394 best to try to work to ensure 9392 06:30:17,398 --> 06:30:18,399 we are prepared. And we avoid 9393 06:30:18,399 --> 06:30:19,000 having last-minute proffers 9394 06:30:19,000 --> 06:30:19,901 changes because it does get a 9395 06:30:19,901 --> 06:30:22,901 little dicey and difficult to 9396 06:30:35,783 --> 06:30:36,684 try to make decisions sort of 9397 06:30:36,684 --> 06:30:37,385 on-the-fly. I'll be honest, 9398 06:30:37,385 --> 06:30:38,319 rely on the county attorney and 9399 06:30:38,319 --> 06:30:39,153 her office to be thorough 9400 06:30:39,153 --> 06:30:40,154 examining these last-minute 9401 06:30:40,154 --> 06:30:40,822 changes in appreciate when a 9402 06:30:40,822 --> 06:30:41,656 document has every docket in 9403 06:30:41,656 --> 06:30:42,256 red and the new language 9404 06:30:42,256 --> 06:30:43,157 because it makes it a lot 9405 06:30:43,157 --> 06:30:43,858 easier than flipping through 9406 06:30:43,858 --> 06:30:44,659 seven pages but I think it's 9407 06:30:44,659 --> 06:30:45,359 good practice for us to 9408 06:30:45,359 --> 06:30:46,627 independently take on to make 9409 06:30:46,627 --> 06:30:47,495 sure when it comes to primetime 9410 06:30:47,495 --> 06:30:48,496 land-use applications in 9411 06:30:48,496 --> 06:30:49,197 addition. Thank you manager. 9412 06:30:49,197 --> 06:30:52,466 >> I want to respond to that. 9413 06:30:52,466 --> 06:30:53,467 Redlines, that's because the 9414 06:30:53,467 --> 06:30:54,101 changes. It makes it a lot 9415 06:30:54,101 --> 06:30:57,701 easier to read and picture. And 9416 06:31:00,141 --> 06:31:01,142 that's appreciate it. 9417 06:31:01,142 --> 06:31:01,876 And I know not picking on one 9418 06:31:01,876 --> 06:31:02,643 specific person because I said 9419 06:31:02,643 --> 06:31:03,611 this before. I've been 9420 06:31:03,611 --> 06:31:04,450 irritated other times, with 9421 06:31:04,450 --> 06:31:06,450 this, you remember. 9422 06:31:14,789 --> 06:31:15,756 I was irritated earlier. 9423 06:31:15,756 --> 06:31:16,791 It makes us look really bad 9424 06:31:16,791 --> 06:31:17,558 when this happened. It makes us 9425 06:31:17,558 --> 06:31:18,726 look sloppy, makes us look like 9426 06:31:18,726 --> 06:31:19,293 were not transparent in making 9427 06:31:19,293 --> 06:31:20,294 decisions that at the last 9428 06:31:20,294 --> 06:31:20,795 moment. I understand things 9429 06:31:20,795 --> 06:31:20,962 happen. I get that. 9430 06:31:20,962 --> 06:31:21,863 Ut how 9431 06:31:21,863 --> 06:31:22,797 often is this happening and why 9432 06:31:22,797 --> 06:31:23,531 does it need to keep having? 9433 06:31:23,531 --> 06:31:25,600 And when something comes up and 9434 06:31:25,600 --> 06:31:28,600 at the podium and they're 9435 06:31:30,938 --> 06:31:31,772 making me feel like they should 9436 06:31:31,772 --> 06:31:35,420 not be a big deal, I take 9437 06:31:35,420 --> 06:31:35,976 exception to that because I 9438 06:31:35,976 --> 06:31:36,978 take this role seriously. We 9439 06:31:36,978 --> 06:31:38,679 have people with legitimate 9440 06:31:38,679 --> 06:31:39,714 concerns. 9441 06:31:39,714 --> 06:31:42,490 And so when we get these 9442 06:31:42,490 --> 06:31:44,449 last-minute changes, how does 9443 06:31:50,558 --> 06:31:51,559 it look to the community? 9444 06:31:51,559 --> 06:31:52,160 And I get everyone is working 9445 06:31:52,160 --> 06:31:53,600 with the applicants. But I 9446 06:31:53,600 --> 06:31:53,494 don't want to just put on the 9447 06:31:53,494 --> 06:31:55,290 district supervisor. 9448 06:31:55,290 --> 06:31:59,800 I also want to put it on the 9449 06:31:59,800 --> 06:32:00,701 land-use attorney's and not 9450 06:32:00,701 --> 06:32:03,701 everyone is a land-use attorney 9451 06:32:04,338 --> 06:32:05,373 who comes before us. 9452 06:32:05,373 --> 06:32:06,400 It's also on them. And this is 9453 06:32:06,400 --> 06:32:09,400 something I was planning to 9454 06:32:09,977 --> 06:32:10,978 address with some industry 9455 06:32:10,978 --> 06:32:11,712 groups that represent people 9456 06:32:11,712 --> 06:32:12,113 who bring randy's cases before 9457 06:32:12,113 --> 06:32:14,113 us. 9458 06:32:15,160 --> 06:32:16,184 Because it's something I really 9459 06:32:16,184 --> 06:32:18,184 am frustrated about. 9460 06:32:20,721 --> 06:32:21,722 I'm absolutely frustrated about 9461 06:32:21,722 --> 06:32:25,322 this. I read through the packet 9462 06:32:32,660 --> 06:32:32,700 I trust that everything's there 9463 06:32:32,700 --> 06:32:33,501 and when me with the applicant, 9464 06:32:33,501 --> 06:32:34,168 I like to think we are going 9465 06:32:34,168 --> 06:32:35,136 through everything. And then 9466 06:32:35,136 --> 06:32:36,370 having the last-minute changes 9467 06:32:36,370 --> 06:32:36,704 sprung up even if it's just 9468 06:32:36,704 --> 06:32:39,640 adding more foliage to a buffer 9469 06:32:39,640 --> 06:32:40,274 or native plants. 9470 06:32:40,274 --> 06:32:41,242 We should be doing it at the 9471 06:32:41,242 --> 06:32:44,645 last minute that should be the 9472 06:32:44,645 --> 06:32:45,613 only one calling this out and 9473 06:32:45,613 --> 06:32:48,516 irritated over this. I really 9474 06:32:48,516 --> 06:32:49,183 should be. And so, it's in all 9475 06:32:49,183 --> 06:32:51,918 of us think it is something 9476 06:32:51,918 --> 06:32:52,887 like that I will address 9477 06:32:52,887 --> 06:32:55,887 individually with some of the 9478 06:32:58,826 --> 06:32:59,861 attorneys and industry 9479 06:32:59,861 --> 06:33:00,795 organizations. Because we 9480 06:33:00,795 --> 06:33:03,195 shouldn't keep coming, we 9481 06:33:05,533 --> 06:33:06,400 should keep coming to the well 9482 06:33:06,400 --> 06:33:07,340 , 9483 06:33:07,340 --> 06:33:07,668 everything's ready to go, it's 9484 06:33:07,668 --> 06:33:08,569 been advertised and the public 9485 06:33:08,569 --> 06:33:08,870 hasn't had a chance to look at 9486 06:33:08,870 --> 06:33:10,471 this. 9487 06:33:10,471 --> 06:33:12,707 It is still a change. 9488 06:33:12,707 --> 06:33:15,707 It is still something that 9489 06:33:16,143 --> 06:33:19,947 people need to be able to look 9490 06:33:19,947 --> 06:33:20,948 at the question. 9491 06:33:20,948 --> 06:33:23,718 So I do get tired of the 9492 06:33:23,718 --> 06:33:24,285 last-minute changes. 9493 06:33:24,285 --> 06:33:27,155 I get very tired of the 9494 06:33:27,155 --> 06:33:28,189 last-minute changes. 9495 06:33:28,189 --> 06:33:29,557 And I won't apologize for that 9496 06:33:29,557 --> 06:33:33,157 because it doesn't seem like it 9497 06:33:33,594 --> 06:33:34,128 will stop. 9498 06:33:34,128 --> 06:33:36,128 Supervisor gordy. 9499 06:33:38,266 --> 06:33:38,933 >> mdm. Chair, I appreciate 9500 06:33:38,933 --> 06:33:40,434 the discussion and appreciate 9501 06:33:40,434 --> 06:33:42,434 the frustration. 9502 06:33:45,405 --> 06:33:46,400 I would just point out it's 9503 06:33:46,400 --> 06:33:47,608 usually not until the agenda is 9504 06:33:47,608 --> 06:33:48,809 posted that the applicant's go 9505 06:33:48,809 --> 06:33:50,611 meet with 9506 06:33:50,611 --> 06:33:53,110 , let's say they will 9507 06:33:54,480 --> 06:33:58,248 go meet with the rest of you 9508 06:34:05,493 --> 06:34:06,360 guys. 9509 06:34:06,360 --> 06:34:06,994 So in a lot of those 9510 06:34:06,994 --> 06:34:08,290 conversations where things get 9511 06:34:08,290 --> 06:34:08,696 pulled out saying hey, we need 9512 06:34:08,696 --> 06:34:09,497 to fix this or that or whatever 9513 06:34:09,497 --> 06:34:10,463 so it ends up resulting in 9514 06:34:10,463 --> 06:34:11,320 last-minute changes. 9515 06:34:11,320 --> 06:34:11,766 After the agenda is posted 9516 06:34:11,766 --> 06:34:13,401 which is where everybody gets 9517 06:34:13,401 --> 06:34:14,669 to actually pull down the 9518 06:34:14,669 --> 06:34:16,669 application. 9519 06:34:16,771 --> 06:34:18,771 From the agenda. 9520 06:34:18,973 --> 06:34:21,973 So maybe, there's gotta be 9521 06:34:23,511 --> 06:34:24,479 , I 9522 06:34:24,479 --> 06:34:25,480 would say we probably need to 9523 06:34:25,480 --> 06:34:27,880 meet with these applicants 9524 06:34:29,150 --> 06:34:30,151 earlier rather than waiting 9525 06:34:30,151 --> 06:34:31,285 until the agenda is posted so 9526 06:34:31,285 --> 06:34:32,920 we can try to get these things 9527 06:34:32,920 --> 06:34:35,920 changed before they get put 9528 06:34:36,491 --> 06:34:38,491 into the agenda. 9529 06:34:45,766 --> 06:34:46,801 I just make that point. 9530 06:34:46,801 --> 06:34:47,368 And because that's where lot of 9531 06:34:47,368 --> 06:34:48,236 the last-minute changes are 9532 06:34:48,236 --> 06:34:51,836 coming is out of the meetings 9533 06:35:00,148 --> 06:35:00,848 with us. 9534 06:35:00,848 --> 06:35:01,816 Which are usually done after 9535 06:35:01,816 --> 06:35:02,917 the posting of the agenda so 9536 06:35:02,917 --> 06:35:04,118 thank you for the conversation. 9537 06:35:04,118 --> 06:35:04,685 >> and that is something, 9538 06:35:04,685 --> 06:35:05,386 patients are coming around 9539 06:35:05,386 --> 06:35:06,287 earlier else are asking people 9540 06:35:06,287 --> 06:35:09,287 to come around sooner. Because 9541 06:35:14,280 --> 06:35:14,929 I feel like it's a disservice. 9542 06:35:14,929 --> 06:35:15,496 The week before is a true 9543 06:35:15,496 --> 06:35:15,997 disservice. To all of us. 9544 06:35:15,997 --> 06:35:16,931 Supervisor lacroix. 9545 06:35:16,931 --> 06:35:17,598 >> I agree that if it is 9546 06:35:17,598 --> 06:35:18,499 possible to do them, but I do 9547 06:35:18,499 --> 06:35:19,200 go back to belmont today and 9548 06:35:19,200 --> 06:35:20,568 right before we all voted on 9549 06:35:20,568 --> 06:35:24,168 that, we had because of a 9550 06:35:26,874 --> 06:35:27,808 speaker, requesting an elevator 9551 06:35:27,808 --> 06:35:30,808 in the community center, they 9552 06:35:33,414 --> 06:35:34,810 did a last-minute grace for the 9553 06:35:34,810 --> 06:35:34,882 community and offer to do it 9554 06:35:34,882 --> 06:35:37,685 and it had to be through a 9555 06:35:37,685 --> 06:35:38,286 proffer. 9556 06:35:38,286 --> 06:35:39,153 So it's a case by case 9557 06:35:39,153 --> 06:35:42,153 situation. But I do understand 9558 06:35:50,531 --> 06:35:51,465 if it is able to be here early 9559 06:35:51,465 --> 06:35:52,466 and I guess you're talking 9560 06:35:52,466 --> 06:35:53,670 about tonight specifically. 9561 06:35:53,670 --> 06:35:53,968 Apparently it never made it 9562 06:35:53,968 --> 06:35:58,168 here in time for this. But I 9563 06:36:03,344 --> 06:36:04,780 think it's case-by-case. 9564 06:36:04,780 --> 06:36:05,346 And that's all I have to say. 9565 06:36:05,346 --> 06:36:06,380 >> I'll stick with belmont bay 9566 06:36:06,380 --> 06:36:07,348 appreciate the developer for 9567 06:36:07,348 --> 06:36:08,349 making that last-minute 9568 06:36:08,349 --> 06:36:08,950 adjustment based on what they 9569 06:36:08,950 --> 06:36:09,484 heard in the board chambers. 9570 06:36:09,484 --> 06:36:10,485 That doesn't happen often. 9571 06:36:10,485 --> 06:36:11,352 That doesn't happen often. 9572 06:36:11,352 --> 06:36:13,752 That's a different situation 9573 06:36:17,825 --> 06:36:18,860 entirely. 9574 06:36:18,860 --> 06:36:19,794 They are hearing something like 9575 06:36:19,794 --> 06:36:20,428 there like you know what we 9576 06:36:20,428 --> 06:36:21,280 should make a change. I respect 9577 06:36:21,280 --> 06:36:21,896 that because that to me shows 9578 06:36:21,896 --> 06:36:24,296 how responsive someone is 9579 06:36:31,272 --> 06:36:32,273 trying to be. 9580 06:36:32,273 --> 06:36:33,274 The only way we get better is 9581 06:36:33,274 --> 06:36:33,875 be hold people accountable and 9582 06:36:33,875 --> 06:36:34,775 we demand better. That's it. 9583 06:36:34,775 --> 06:36:35,810 That's it. I've said before 9584 06:36:35,810 --> 06:36:36,811 previously I don't like it when 9585 06:36:36,811 --> 06:36:39,811 we do last-minute changes from 9586 06:36:40,140 --> 06:36:40,648 the day us. 9587 06:36:40,648 --> 06:36:41,516 They have been less but they 9588 06:36:41,516 --> 06:36:44,516 are still having to certain 9589 06:36:51,125 --> 06:36:51,425 examples the stock based on 9590 06:36:51,425 --> 06:36:52,126 constituent 9591 06:36:52,126 --> 06:36:53,127 feedback. And if 9592 06:36:53,127 --> 06:36:54,128 it's based on board feedback, 9593 06:36:54,128 --> 06:36:58,928 get it to us sooner. Get it to 9594 06:37:05,973 --> 06:37:06,841 us sooner. Today's tuesday. 9595 06:37:06,841 --> 06:37:07,475 I don't want to look at 9596 06:37:07,475 --> 06:37:08,209 something at 7 o'clock. I 9597 06:37:08,209 --> 06:37:08,943 really don't. When it should 9598 06:37:08,943 --> 06:37:09,710 have been to us sooner. It's 9599 06:37:09,710 --> 06:37:10,945 not fair to us. It's not fair 9600 06:37:10,945 --> 06:37:11,579 to our constituents, it's not 9601 06:37:11,579 --> 06:37:12,613 fair to staff. It is not fair. 9602 06:37:12,613 --> 06:37:13,800 People who can do better should 9603 06:37:13,800 --> 06:37:15,800 be doing better. 9604 06:37:16,617 --> 06:37:17,518 And with that, unless anyone 9605 06:37:17,518 --> 06:37:19,253 has anything us, we could stay 9606 06:37:19,253 --> 06:37:19,887 here till 10:00 P.M., 9607 06:37:19,887 --> 06:37:20,454 >> moved to injured. 9608 06:37:20,454 --> 06:37:22,454 >> second. 9609 06:37:24,625 --> 06:37:27,250 >> it's not debatable, let's 9610 06:37:30,765 --> 06:37:32,765 take a vote. 9611 06:37:34,402 --> 06:37:38,200 >> I'm voting no to some still 9612 06:39:11,299 --> 06:39:13,299 on my soapbox.