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[25:13] >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone
[25:18] please could find a seat.
[25:18] It is 2 o'clock tuesday,
[25:19] SEPTEMBER 1. Welcome back
[25:25] everyone.
[25:26] We are going to begin with a
[25:40] moment of silence.
[25:41] Thank you.
[25:44] I ask everyone
[25:44] , if you are
[26:01] able, please stand for the
[26:01] pledge of allegiance.
[26:02] >>> I pledge allegiance to the
[26:03] flag of the united states of
[26:04] america and to the republic for
[26:05] which it stands, one nation
[26:06] under GOD, indivisible, with
[26:10] liberty and justice for all.
[26:11] >> Chair Deshundra: before we
[26:12] get into the meat of the day I
[26:13] would like to go over
[26:14] procedural matters
[26:14] .
[26:16] We have a request to different
[26:19] discussion item 12.
[26:20] We also have a request differ
[26:21] to land use cases.
[26:26] One of them is 11 c and that is
[26:27] have adjusted dates and the
[26:27] other is 14 be and that is
[26:30] project industry that is a part
[26:31] of our 7 o'clock meeting
[26:33] .
[26:36] You get a motion to defer?
[26:37] >> I moved to defer those three
[26:38] items
[26:38] .
[26:39] >> Chair Deshundra: properly
[26:42] moved and seconded
[26:42] .
[26:43] >> Andrea Bailey: could you
[26:44] repeat again what you just
[26:44] said?
[26:47] >> Chair Deshundra: 11c which
[26:48] is savage estates under agency
[26:51] time.
[26:52] 12n which is discussion under
[26:55] supervisors time in 14 be.
[27:00] This is hot off the presses is
[27:01] project industry and that is a
[27:04] part of our 7 o'clock meeting.
[27:05] >> Andrea Bailey: disney
[27:05] declivity.
[27:08] Thank you MADAM Chair.
[27:32] >> Chair Deshundra:
[27:37] >> but unanimous
[27:37] .
[27:38] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[27:39] so very much.
[27:39] We are now going to move to
[27:40] agenda item for
[27:41] .
[27:42] And I get a motion to approve
[27:46] for a through c
[27:46] .
[27:47] >> Andrea Bailey: move for
[27:47] approval.
[27:48] >> Tom Gordy: second.
[27:49] >> Chair Deshundra: and has
[27:49] been properly moved and
[27:52] seconded.
[27:52] Any discussion?
[27:55] Seeing none, let's go ahead and
[28:12] take our votes.
[28:12] The
[28:18] >> vote unanimous
[28:19] .
[28:20] >> Chair Deshundra: we are now
[28:21] going to the fun part and that
[28:21] is commendations and
[28:22] proclamations.
[28:24] Can I get a motion to move five
[28:26] a through j forward?
[28:27] >> so moved.
[28:28] >> second
[28:29] .
[28:29] >> Chair Deshundra: any
[28:31] discussion?
[28:32] Let's go ahead and take our
[28:39] votes.
[28:43] >> vote unanimous
[28:44] .
[28:45] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[28:45] so very much.
[28:46] Before I go down to the dais,
[28:47] want to let people know because
[28:49] we have a large number of
[28:52] commendations and proclamations
[28:52] .
[28:53] We are going to hold all photos
[28:57] until the end
[28:57] .
[28:58] We will give it to you, say a
[28:59] few words.
[29:02] But I ask everyone remain
[29:02] seated so we could take photos
[29:05] at the end.
[29:06] There might be some members who
[29:07] want to come down for some of
[29:10] these
[29:10] .
[29:11] Not just at the podium but
[29:13] actual for the photos prefer
[29:19] the first one, we are going to
[29:20] give that one of the 7 o'clock.
[29:21] That is the principal boys
[29:22] soccer team.
[29:22] They are in school.
[29:24] We will
[29:30] let them stay there.
[29:31] Lisa, if you and your team
[29:59] could meet me at the podium.
[30:00] >> Chair Deshundra: to proclaim
[30:01] SEPTEMBER 2026 as recovery
[30:02] month.
[30:03] If anyone else wants to come
[30:06] down and join.
[30:10] SEPTEMBER is recovery month.
[30:11] This year's theme, recover
[30:12] israel restoring every aspect
[30:15] of life
[30:15] .
[30:16] Reminds us recovery is not
[30:17] simply about overcoming a
[30:21] challenge.
[30:22] It's about restoring
[30:23] relationships, health, purpose,
[30:24] stability and the many aspects
[30:27] of life that make us home.
[30:28] It is time to recognize family,
[30:29] friends, professionals,
[30:30] community organizations and
[30:31] individuals in recovery who
[30:37] make that journey possible.
[30:38] Would like to recognize
[30:39] principal and community
[30:40] services and community partners
[30:40] for their continued commitment
[30:41] of the work
[30:42] , including the
[30:43] recovery israel event on
[30:46] SEPTEMBER 16 update ajay for
[30:47] lazo building more community
[30:49] members and people in recovery
[30:50] will have an opportunity to
[30:51] share stories of resilience and
[30:52] hope.
[30:52] The message is simple but
[30:58] powerful changes possible,
[30:58] recovery is real, no one has to
[31:00] walk that journey alone pick on
[31:01] behalf of the board of
[31:02] supervisors, we probably
[31:05] proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as a
[31:07] cover a month
[31:07] .
[31:10] Would you like to offer some
[31:11] remarks?
[31:18] >> thank you chair.
[31:19] I am behavior had program
[31:20] manager with prince william
[31:24] county community services this
[31:25] is our third annual recovery
[31:26] month event tonight thank you
[31:26] for
[31:27] allowing us to have a
[31:27] proclamation this year.
[31:30] I want to invite you to our
[31:31] event wednesday, SEPTEMBER 16
[31:32] at the for lazo building.
[31:33] Weave a dynamic speaker who is
[31:37] a local virginia native who is
[31:40] a poet and does spoken word and
[31:41] does speeches about his path to
[31:47] recovery in his life using
[31:48] substance in the path regaining
[31:51] his life and having a family
[31:52] .
[31:52] We also of other speakers.
[31:53] We are providing free lunch to
[31:56] everyone who attends so we hope
[31:56] everyone will make it
[31:57] wednesday,
[31:58] SEPTEMBER 16.
[32:02] Thank you.
[32:03] >> Chair Deshundra: I will give
[32:06] this to you for safe keeping.
[32:07] Thank you so much.
[32:09] Next is phyllis jennings holt.
[32:10] If you and your team want to
[32:11] come down for kinship care
[32:11] .
[32:12] And anyone else.
[32:16] Upervisor
[32:17] boddye, I don't know if you
[32:34] want to come down for this one?
[32:35] >> thank you MADAM Chair.
[32:36] Proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as
[32:39] kinship care awareness month to
[32:42] recruit recognize SEPTEMBER as
[32:43] kinship care awareness month
[32:44] and we knowledge the extended
[32:51] family members who stepped
[32:52] forward to care for children
[32:52] when most needed.
[32:54] Across prince william county
[32:54] there 27 kinship families
[32:58] caring for 44 children in homes
[32:58] relative other than a parent
[32:59] serves as the head of household
[33:00] for every child deserves the
[33:01] opportunity to grow and learn
[33:02] in a safe supportive and loving
[33:03] home for kinship caregivers
[33:08] help make them possible while
[33:09] preserving the family
[33:10] connections I give children a
[33:11] sense of belonging and
[33:11] identity.
[33:23] Kinship care givers often step
[33:24] into the role unexpectedly but
[33:25] they do so because they believe
[33:26] in family giving children the
[33:27] opportunity to remain connected
[33:28] to the people, traditions,
[33:29] cultures and communities
[33:30] important to them.
[33:31] The principal them board of
[33:32] supervisors proudly proclaims
[33:32] SEPTEMBER 26 as kinship care
[33:34] awareness month.
[33:35] Spoke good afternoon madame
[33:37] george jefferson, vice chair
[33:38] angry and members of the board.
[33:40] Director of social services
[33:41] .
[33:47] Today with me and my team, van
[33:48] washington assistant director.
[33:51] Essica, assistant director:
[33:52] carolyn oliver acting program,
[33:55] and esa grant caseworker,
[33:57] candace human services
[34:02] caseworker
[34:02] .
[34:03] Also with a side of chrissy
[34:04] falls from the dss advisory
[34:07] board.
[34:08] Dss as part of the work done to
[34:09] keep our children safe with
[34:10] their families
[34:11] .
[34:14] When it isn't possible they do
[34:15] their best to make sure
[34:16] children can stay with
[34:21] relatives.
[34:22] Data shows children tended to
[34:23] better when they are able to
[34:26] live in the home of a relative
[34:27] if they are unable to be with
[34:30] their biological families are
[34:31] currently we have 27 kinship
[34:31] families providing care and
[34:32] support
[34:33] , which means there's 27
[34:39] or more less children in foster
[34:39] care.
[34:40] Kinship caregivers step forward
[34:40] with
[34:47] courage and compassion,
[34:47] provide stability during
[34:48] challenging times because staff
[34:49] and community partners work
[34:50] diligently to support families
[34:51] and strengthen community as a
[34:53] whole big thank you for
[34:53] recognizing the remarkable
[34:56] efforts on the caregivers,
[34:57] community partners and staff
[34:59] and continuing to champion the
[35:03] help and safety in prince
[35:04] william county.
[35:04] Thank you.
[35:22] >> Chair Deshundra: all right.
[35:23] Chief, if he could come down
[35:24] for national preparedness
[35:24] month.
[35:41] Today we recognize
[35:42] SEPTEMBER as national
[35:43] preparedness month and the
[35:44] importance of making to
[35:46] residents and businesses are
[35:47] ready when emergencies occur.
[35:48] Emergency preparedness is a
[35:51] shared responsibility.
[35:52] Every household a business
[35:53] should have a plan to be
[35:54] prepared to be self-sufficient
[35:56] for 72 hours following a major
[36:04] emergency or disaster.
[36:05] Through the rady principal them
[36:06] camping, or office of emergency
[36:07] management is encouraging
[36:08] residents and businesses to
[36:09] take simple but important
[36:09] steps.
[36:12] Build an emergency kit, make
[36:13] and practice an emergency plan,
[36:19] stay informed and learn
[36:19] lifesaving skills pick the
[36:20] SEPTEMBER I encourage everyone
[36:21] to take a few minutes to ask do
[36:22] I have a plan.
[36:24] Do I have the supplies I need?
[36:26] And do I know what to do when
[36:31] an emergency happens?
[36:32] Preparedness is more than
[36:33] protecting ourselves.
[36:33] A prepared community is a
[36:36] stronger and more resilient
[36:37] communities of the principal
[36:40] them board of supervisors
[36:41] proudly proclaims SEPTEMBER
[36:46] 2026 as national preparedness
[36:46] month.
[36:47] Ould you like to offer
[36:47] some remarks?
[36:54] >> thank you chair jefferson.
[36:55] I'm actually going to turn it
[36:58] to the emergency management
[37:01] coordinator brian meisner.
[37:02] The fire department is focused
[37:04] on response and resiliency
[37:04] .
[37:05] We get to do that with a lot of
[37:08] great folks
[37:09] , including the
[37:11] emergency management.
[37:12] >> thank you chief venture
[37:21] jefferson.
[37:22] Brian meisner the emergency
[37:23] management coordinator.
[37:24] A couple things we would like
[37:25] to remind the community of.
[37:26] First and foremost is to be
[37:27] practicing pillars of
[37:27] preparedness chair
[37:27] jefferson
[37:28] read with us for the
[37:29] proclamation.
[37:31] You can go to our website for
[37:32] the rady principal them can
[37:33] pain that has those colors of
[37:38] preparedness, which are making
[37:39] an emergency plan, building an
[37:40] emergency kit, staying
[37:41] informed, getting involved in
[37:44] your community, learning on
[37:45] lifesaving skill in knowing the
[37:45] threats and hazards in your
[37:46] neighborhood.
[37:48] We are going to be using
[37:49] preparedness month for three
[37:57] new things pick first on the
[37:58] one we are excited about is
[37:59] going to be a community
[38:00] engagement window for our flood
[38:00] resilience plan which is an
[38:06] effort underway in planning and
[38:08] the implementation is finally
[38:09] kicked off in 2020 60 that will
[38:11] be up here shortly.
[38:12] The second has an opportunity
[38:13] for community facing
[38:14] presentations.
[38:15] Whether that is for a house of
[38:16] worship or an hoa.
[38:18] Whether it be templates for
[38:21] folks to self deliver or have
[38:22] one hour folks go out and
[38:22] deliver that
[38:27] presentation, we
[38:27] are going to be in a position
[38:28] to start supporting those big
[38:29] last but not least we want to
[38:31] start encouraging neighbors to
[38:32] be thinking about how they can
[38:33] be helping their neighbors out
[38:35] pick those same pillars of
[38:36] preparedness are applied at the
[38:38] most local level, which for
[38:40] many of us is our neighborhoods
[38:40] .
[38:42] Back and look like it informal
[38:45] conversation about the unique
[38:47] skills
[38:47] , perhaps someone in
[38:50] skilled trades, someone else in
[38:52] healthcare, someone is a camper
[38:56] knows how to purify water.
[38:57] Start thinking about the
[38:59] collective skills you can use
[39:03] to help each other out if you
[39:04] should have a large emergency.
[39:05] When we have a robust public
[39:07] safety system in the county it
[39:08] could be overwhelmed and take a
[39:09] day or two to reach the whole
[39:11] community if we have feet of
[39:12] snow, lots of debris from a
[39:16] storm, etc. Really start
[39:17] thinking about how you can
[39:18] implement the steps with your
[39:18] neighbors.
[39:24] Thank you.
[39:25] >> stick around.
[39:26] We are taking photos later.
[39:28] Supervisor lacroix, if you can
[39:29] come down for this one
[39:38] ?
[39:46] If everyone associated
[39:46] .
[39:47] Of those associated want to
[39:50] come down or stay in the back,
[40:03] there is anyone else.
[40:04] 's proclamation AUGUST 2026 is
[40:05] spinal muscular atrophy month.
[40:08] Today we recognize spinal
[40:09] muscular atrophy awareness
[40:10] month on the individuals and
[40:12] families who are living with
[40:16] spinal muscular atrophy.
[40:19] Sma is a serious neuromuscular
[40:20] disease that affects physical
[40:29] strength and can impact a
[40:30] person's ability to walk, eat
[40:30] and breathe.
[40:30] For many
[40:31] years sma was a leading
[40:33] genetic cause of infant death.
[40:34] Advances in treatment and
[40:35] research if given many
[40:37] individuals with sma greater
[40:39] opportunities for longer,
[40:45] healthier lives.
[40:46] We recognize the importance of
[40:47] access to healthcare,
[40:50] caregiving services
[40:50] , equipment
[40:52] and public programs that allow
[40:56] individuals to live as
[40:56] independently and fully as
[40:58] possible.
[41:02] Organizations play an important
[41:03] role in advancing research,
[41:05] supporting families, promoting
[41:08] best practices in advocating
[41:08] for accessibility and
[41:13] disability rights.
[41:14] On behalf of the principal them
[41:15] board of supervisors we proudly
[41:18] acknowledge spinal muscular
[41:25] atrophy awareness month.
[41:30] >> I am cassie.
[41:30] Want to thank the board agreed
[41:34] to bring forth the proclamation
[41:35] .
[41:35] I'm glued to spinal atrophy my
[41:36] entire life.
[41:38] For people like me awareness is
[41:39] more than knowing the name of a
[41:44] disease
[41:44] .
[41:44] It is about being seen.
[41:45] It's about recognizing people
[41:46] disabilities belong in our
[41:49] schools, workplaces,
[41:51] communities and every table
[41:52] where decisions are made about
[41:52] us.
[41:55] 's proclamation MAY only be a
[41:57] piece of paper but what it
[42:00] represents to get rest of
[42:01] represents more.
[42:06] It tells people living with sma
[42:07] that our lives, voices and
[42:08] futures do matter.
[42:09] Thank you for seeing us
[42:09] ,
[42:12] recognizing us, and help make
[42:14] our voices be heard.
[42:23] [Applause]
[42:24] >> jeannie is going to give it
[42:25] to you for safekeeping.
[42:30] Supervisor stuart and everyone
[42:31] associated with disability
[42:32] voting rights we, please come
[42:52] on down.
[42:59] >> thank you MADAM Chair.
[43:00] Today we recognize of number 14
[43:01] to the 18th is disability
[43:03] voting rights week.
[43:04] Disability voting rights gives
[43:05] us an opportunity to raise
[43:08] awareness and barriers to
[43:09] voting recognize the importance
[43:10] of removing barriers wherever
[43:13] they exist.
[43:14] We also recognize the work of
[43:15] organization such as rev up,
[43:17] register, educate, vote
[43:17] , use
[43:24] your power
[43:24] .
[43:25] And the many disability
[43:26] advocates come election
[43:26] officials, community
[43:27] organizations and public
[43:28] agencies working to promote
[43:30] accessible and greater civic
[43:31] participation park in prince
[43:32] lynn county we are committed to
[43:38] fostering the inclusive
[43:39] community for people with
[43:40] disabilities can participate
[43:42] fully in civic life, engage
[43:43] with the local government and
[43:44] help shape the future of our
[43:47] community.
[43:48] On behalf of the board of
[43:49] supervisors we proudly
[43:50] proclaims SEPTEMBER 14-18
[43:50] ,
[43:55] 2026, is disability voting
[43:55] rights week.
[44:00] >> can everybody hear me all
[44:02] right?
[44:09] Good afternoon mehter for rev
[44:17] up virginia.
[44:18] Wanted to thank all of you for
[44:19] ensuring this proclamation is
[44:25] recognized by the vote.
[44:30] Many people falsely believe the
[44:31] power of the disability
[44:31] community only existed in the
[44:34] 90s where disability advocates
[44:37] fall to pass the 88 walking up
[44:40] the steps of the capital, many
[44:42] of whom could not walk.
[44:45] When congress passed the ada,
[44:46] this became the american
[44:49] disabilities act log russell
[44:49] and the guaranteed access for
[44:56] voting rights
[44:56] , education and
[44:57] all other public spaces here
[45:00] today, however, the disability
[45:01] community and our vote is alive
[45:04] and well.
[45:05] We are, according to some
[45:05] measurements, 22% of the
[45:10] american population and 28% of
[45:15] the american population
[45:15] .
[45:16] We are one in every four
[45:18] americans
[45:20] .
[45:23] Additionally we vote like
[45:27] everybody else in the 2022
[45:27] terms, the last time we
[45:30] received data we voted at the
[45:34] same rate as all other
[45:35] virginians.
[45:39] 53.1 percent.
[45:40] However, despite our vote being
[45:44] alive and well, congress and
[45:45] many other institutions ignore
[45:48] the disability vote despite the
[45:49] promise of accessibility for
[45:50] all government programs to
[45:56] congress under funds many of
[45:57] the provisions under the idea
[45:58] including education which
[45:59] places a burden on local county
[46:00] governments like yourself to
[46:03] fund the difference by
[46:06] supporting us today, you fight
[46:07] for prince william county's
[46:10] right to receive the funds from
[46:11] congress to ensure all disabled
[46:13] americans receive accessible
[46:15] services
[46:17] .
[46:21] Finally, I wanted to thank
[46:24] supervisor stuart meeting with
[46:25] region advocates
[46:26] .
[46:34] Rev up virginia is a statewide
[46:36] advocacy unit of organizations
[46:36] ,
[46:39] disability rights organizations
[46:41] and voting rights to protect
[46:45] the disability vote and to
[46:46] ensure we keep voting the same
[46:48] rate as everybody else and
[46:50] protecting our right to the
[46:51] ballot.
[46:55] Thank you so much and hope you
[47:05] have a wonderful day.
[47:06] And if I could on police chief
[47:06] and
[47:06] others associated with
[47:20] forensic science week.
[47:21] I knew the rest that you were
[47:22] coming.
[47:43] My cure comes back up.
[47:44] We are here to recognize
[47:44] SEPTEMBER 2020 success
[47:45] forensic
[47:52] science week.
[47:53] Forensic science professionals
[47:54] play an essential role
[47:55] examining evidence and
[47:55] providing
[47:56] objective scientific
[47:57] information to investigators,
[47:58] attorneys and the courts pick
[47:58] their work and help establish
[48:08] facts, identify individuals,
[48:09] connect evidence to cases and
[48:10] ultimately support unfair and
[48:11] effective justice system pick
[48:12] the prince william county
[48:13] police department is committed
[48:14] to using forensic science as a
[48:15] tool in investigating crime.
[48:16] The department works with
[48:17] local, state, and federal
[48:22] partners to build and maintain
[48:22] criminal databases involving
[48:23] dna, fingerprints and other
[48:25] forensic information.
[48:26] This week is an opportunity to
[48:33] recognize academic programs
[48:34] researchers, scientists and
[48:35] professionals who continue to
[48:36] advance the many disciplines
[48:36] that make up forensic science
[48:37] with the principal them board
[48:38] of supervisors by proclaim
[48:43] SEPTEMBER 20 through SEPTEMBER
[48:49] 26 as forensic science week.
[48:49] Would you or anyone else like
[48:53] to offer remarks?
[48:59] >> captain heather Mclean.
[49:00] Thank you for recognizing
[49:03] SEPTEMBER 20 as forensic
[49:08] services week
[49:08] .
[49:09] With me today are members of
[49:13] our forensic services section.
[49:14] Members of the unit is not only
[49:19] respond to crime scenes
[49:20] ,
[49:20] violent crimes.
[49:21] They investigate and evaluate
[49:22] and process evidence collected
[49:23] by patrol officers and
[49:23] detectives and submitted to
[49:26] them.
[49:27] In JULY alone our fingerprint
[49:29] technicians evaluate 1500
[49:32] latent fingerprints.
[49:33] Our photo lab provided
[49:35] photographs for 200 cases for
[49:38] prosecution.
[49:39] Rcs I process 49 cases of
[49:45] evidence on spin 240 hours on
[49:46] processing and the respondent a
[49:46] major crime scenes as well
[49:51] regard to forensic examiners
[49:52] analyzed 13 tb the evidence and
[49:56] that is just in one month ago
[49:57] members are scientists pick
[49:58] they work in their labs, they
[49:59] conduct their research and the
[50:00] best practices and they work
[50:03] tirelessly to link evidence to
[50:04] crimes to support successful
[50:10] prosecution thank you for
[50:11] recognizing their entire
[50:12] community
[50:18] .
[50:20] >> Chair Deshundra: a reminder
[50:20] we are going to be taking
[50:22] photos at the end.
[50:23] I have a couple of more love.
[50:28] I have three more left.
[50:29] Like for everyone associated
[50:30] with childhood cancer awareness
[50:40] to please step forward.
[50:40] >> thank you MADAM Chair.
[50:45] Us those involved make their
[50:45] way forward, I want to thank
[50:46] the chief of staff surge my
[50:48] colleagues corresponding
[50:51] offices for your compassion,
[50:58] collaboration pick many of you
[50:59] don't know, but chelsea is my
[50:59] chief of staff.
[51:00] And this little guy you see
[51:06] here is our beloved joshua who
[51:07] not only had cancer, fought it
[51:08] and beat it.
[51:08] Ain't that right, buddy?
[51:11] [Applause]
[51:12] Until they always that you
[51:13] truly don't know how something
[51:14] is going to impact you until it
[51:17] hits home.
[51:18] My staff are an extension of my
[51:19] family for and for a year and
[51:21] and a half chelsea and her
[51:22] family have gone through so
[51:25] much.
[51:26] I one acknowledged chelsea
[51:27] because she is a rock star
[51:29] supermom not only was she an
[51:33] advocate for her child
[51:34] , she was
[51:35] a researcher, she was a doctor,
[51:39] she was a nurse and a caregiver
[51:40] but through all of that she
[51:40] never once let anything in the
[51:42] office fall through the cracks.
[51:46] That is for you.
[51:47] So thank you for being
[51:52] steadfast in your faith.
[51:53] For representing our office
[51:56] with dignity throughout this
[52:01] entire ordeal into your
[52:02] colleagues and corresponding
[52:03] staff, thank you for your
[52:04] prayers throughout this
[52:06] difficult time.
[52:07] We recognize SEPTEMBER as
[52:07] childhood cancer awareness
[52:10] month.
[52:11] Time to honor children and
[52:12] families whose lives have been
[52:12] affected by cancer and
[52:14] recognize the growing number of
[52:15] young survivors who continue to
[52:16] face challenges long after
[52:19] treatment ends for families a
[52:20] childhood cancer diagnosis
[52:22] changes everything
[52:22] .
[52:23] It brings fear and uncertainty
[52:27] but it reveals extraordinary
[52:27] courage, resilience and
[52:28] strength.
[52:32] We recognize the parents
[52:33] ,
[52:34] siblings, caregivers, doctors,
[52:36] nurses, researchers and
[52:37] advocates who stand beside the
[52:37] children and families
[52:40] throughout their journey
[52:40] .
[52:43] We also want to extend
[52:44] recognition to those who
[52:47] continue to research into the
[52:47] causes of childhood cancer in
[52:49] the development of more
[52:50] effective treatments are
[52:52] essential so every child is a
[52:56] opportunity to grow up and live
[52:56] a long and healthy life.
[52:58] On behalf of the supervisors,
[53:02] we proudly proclaim some number
[53:03] 20 success childhood cancer
[53:05] awareness month let us raise
[53:05] awareness, support affected
[53:08] families, honor those we lost
[53:10] work toward a future where no
[53:13] child has to face cancer.
[53:28] Thank you.
[53:28] >> good afternoon.
[53:31] I want to echo everything said.
[53:32] I appreciate the love, prayers
[53:34] and support from each and every
[53:39] one of you all glass SEPTEMBER
[53:39] my family and I came for child
[53:41] cancer awareness month and
[53:48] joshua was in remission.
[53:49] We believe the hardest part of
[53:50] this battle was behind us pick
[53:51] three weeks later his cancer
[53:52] came back for the third time.
[53:55] Joshua had leukemia.
[53:55] One of the most aggressive
[53:58] cancers a child can face when
[53:59] he relapsed there was no second
[54:03] line treatment waiting for him
[54:04] we were in uncharted territory
[54:05] with few options and no
[54:06] guarantee any of them would
[54:06] work.
[54:10] And yet here he is
[54:10] .
[54:14] [Applause]
[54:14] The little boy standing beside
[54:18] me has endured more than most
[54:22] adults ever will.
[54:23] He is been told the treatment
[54:24] didn't work and face to relapse
[54:26] when there was no roadmap and
[54:27] he is undergone treatments that
[54:28] have never been used in this
[54:30] way for a child before pick in
[54:31] two days josh will have another
[54:35] scan pick last year taught me
[54:36] how quickly life can change but
[54:37] it taught me to appreciate what
[54:38] we have including sitting in
[54:40] traffic or any other minor
[54:41] inconvenience
[54:41] .
[54:43] It's nothing.
[54:44] There been moments in this
[54:48] journey when medicine had no
[54:49] answers in those moments my
[54:50] faith wasn't just the
[54:50] platitude.
[54:54] It wasn't attending I wasn't
[54:55] afraid or convincing myself
[54:56] everything would turn out the
[54:56] way it I wanted.
[54:57] It was knowing GOD was still
[55:01] GOD even when I couldn't see
[55:02] what came next and today josh
[55:03] is standing beside me and I
[55:04] thank GOD for that every single
[55:05] day but his story is also white
[55:05] we are
[55:07] doing here matters.
[55:08] His story is nothing short of a
[55:13] miracle.
[55:13] A few days ago a friend of
[55:14] ours, little boy named callan,
[55:15] passed away from the same
[55:19] cancer josh had.
[55:20] His loss is a heartbreaking
[55:21] reminder for too many childhood
[55:22] cancers but medicine is so much
[55:26] further to go so if you are
[55:27] wondering what you can do start
[55:28] by remembering our children
[55:29] beyond today's meeting.
[55:29] Pray for them, for their
[55:30] families, doctors and
[55:31] researchers working to give
[55:33] them another option.
[55:33] Go golden SEPTEMBER when
[55:35] someone asks you why, tell
[55:36] them.
[55:36] Support childhood cancer
[55:38] research.
[55:39] Give blood, joined the bone
[55:41] marrow transplant, support
[55:42] families whose lives have
[55:50] suddenly become hospital rooms,
[55:51] appointments and scans.
[55:52] Don't look away simply because
[55:52] childhood cancer is difficult
[55:53] to talk about.
[55:54] Awareness matters because
[55:54] awareness matters quickly sale
[55:57] the time that older and are our
[55:58] future and into days we will
[55:59] walk into another scan with
[56:01] confidence
[56:01] .
[56:02] I cannot control what it says
[56:03] but I know who carried us this
[56:04] far so we will pray we will
[56:10] walk in faith and be grateful
[56:10] of the tremendous gift of
[56:11] having josh here today.
[56:12] For talent, joshua and every
[56:15] child waiting for their
[56:16] miracle, thank you for making
[56:16] sure childhood cancer is not
[56:39] forgotten.
[56:40] >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone
[56:44] associated with item 5 I
[56:44] ,
[56:45] sickle cell awareness month,
[56:46] would you please come forward
[57:30] to.
[57:31] Spoon sickle cell disease is a
[57:35] chronic and deliberate dating
[57:36] condition that affects more
[57:37] than 100,000 americans
[57:37] .
[57:41] While they can affect people
[57:42] from any background that
[57:43] impacts individuals of african
[57:46] descent as well as people of
[57:47] hispanic, south asian, southern
[57:53] european and middle eastern
[57:54] ancestry.
[57:55] Awareness and early testing are
[57:55] important because individuals
[57:56] who carried the sickle cell
[57:59] trait MAY pass the disease on
[58:00] to the children.
[58:01] Knowing your sickle cell trait
[58:03] status can help individuals
[58:04] make informed decisions about
[58:08] their health and futures we
[58:09] want to highlight the critical
[58:11] need for blood donations many
[58:12] individuals living with sickle
[58:15] cell require blood transfusions
[58:20] to manage serious conditions
[58:20] .
[58:20] I am sorry.
[58:21] If we could cut the
[58:25] noise.
[58:30] Excuse me.
[58:33] We also want to highlight the
[58:34] critical need for blood
[58:41] donations many individuals
[58:42] require blood transfusions to
[58:43] manage serious complications
[58:44] work sometimes multiple times
[58:46] each year throughout their
[58:47] lives by donating blood can
[58:48] make a direct and meaningful
[58:49] difference for these patients,
[58:51] therefore today the board of
[58:54] supervisors by proclaim
[59:00] SEPTEMBER 2026 sickle cell
[59:00] awareness month.
[59:01] For greater awareness and
[59:04] community support we can help
[59:05] improve the lives of those
[59:08] affected by sickle cell disease
[59:08] .
[59:09] Would you like to offer
[59:14] remarks?
[59:15] >> good afternoon and thank you
[59:15] MADAM Chair.
[59:18] I would like to thank all of
[59:19] the board members supporting
[59:23] this big supervisor angry,
[59:27] boddye, stuart and bailey.
[59:30] As well as standing with me.
[59:34] And community partners
[59:34] .
[59:35] Northern virginia medical
[59:36] center, prince william county
[59:39] delta sigma sorority inc., top
[59:43] ladies and distinction, dale
[59:44] said he prince william county
[59:46] chapter and our dear friend
[59:48] joshua king
[59:53] .
[59:54] Sickle cell disease has
[59:56] impacted many families they
[59:58] live with it every day.
[59:59] Today we carry forward of our
[1:00:03] late niece who passed away from
[1:00:08] sickle cell disease in 2021 and
[1:00:09] or vision to support families,
[1:00:09] raise awareness,
[1:00:09] provide
[1:00:10] education resources,
[1:00:13] encouraging genetic testing and
[1:00:15] advocate for better care
[1:00:16] .
[1:00:20] prince wilden county virginia
[1:00:21] ranks in the top three
[1:00:22] jurisdictions in the state of
[1:00:23] virginia for sickle cell
[1:00:26] disease pick with the passage
[1:00:27] of the queen candace hope for
[1:00:28] sickle cell act, named in
[1:00:30] memory of the late 15-year-old
[1:00:35] candace king, a prince william
[1:00:36] county resident who died from
[1:00:37] complications of sickle cell
[1:00:39] disease, we ask prince william
[1:00:42] county to share awareness,
[1:00:43] messages sent to partner with
[1:00:45] the heart of gold to connect
[1:00:48] residents and families with
[1:00:50] information and resources
[1:00:51] recall of you received a gift
[1:00:54] back from us today that pretty
[1:00:59] purple bag
[1:00:59] .
[1:00:59] Both in english and spanish for
[1:01:00] the residents of prince william
[1:01:05] county
[1:01:05] .
[1:01:05] Together prince william county
[1:01:06] can be a model for what it
[1:01:11] means to not only raise
[1:01:11] awareness but take action,
[1:01:13] stand with sickle cell warriors
[1:01:14] and help change the future for
[1:01:16] generations to come
[1:01:19] .
[1:01:20] Thank you for your leadership
[1:01:21] in partnership and for this
[1:01:23] proclamation.
[1:01:28] [Applause]
[1:01:30] >> good afternoon.
[1:01:35] My name is joshua king pick up
[1:01:35] one of think the chair and
[1:01:36] board for giving me an
[1:01:39] opportunity to speak.
[1:01:40] On behalf of my wife it could
[1:01:41] not be here in my candace who
[1:01:42] passed away OCTOBER fourth of
[1:01:45] last year from sickle cell.
[1:01:48] I will be brief and say thank
[1:01:50] you guys for this proclamation
[1:01:52] thank you for the support
[1:01:56] you've given my wife and i
[1:01:56] candace birthdays this month on
[1:02:00] the 20th we are still
[1:02:03] struggling
[1:02:03] .
[1:02:08] We cry every day.
[1:02:09] Sickle cell is real and there
[1:02:13] are cures we need to do all we
[1:02:20] can to help and instead of my
[1:02:20] wife and I sitting in bed
[1:02:21] crying every day, we are out
[1:02:22] here standing with everyone
[1:02:24] else who needs help.
[1:02:25] Her daughter was a strong
[1:02:27] sickle cell warrior and we are
[1:02:30] doing it for her and us to get
[1:02:31] hurts every time we speak about
[1:02:35] this and stand up, but we know
[1:02:36] there is a cure and that we can
[1:02:36] do more
[1:02:36] .
[1:02:39] I want to thank the governor
[1:02:42] for passing the laws and
[1:02:42] everyone doing the work.
[1:02:44] But we are not there yet.
[1:02:49] We have a long way to go.
[1:02:50] Please come out on the 26.
[1:02:51] We will be at cogan high school
[1:02:55] doing a sickle cell awareness
[1:02:55] walk.
[1:02:56] Come out and support and help
[1:03:01] friends and learn something
[1:03:01] .
[1:03:01] That is all I have.
[1:03:02] Thank you for the time.
[1:03:03] Keep us in prayer.
[1:03:20] Thank you.
[1:03:22] >> Chair Deshundra: we will
[1:03:23] take photos everyone at the
[1:03:25] end.
[1:03:34] We have one more left.
[1:03:35] And people associated with
[1:03:36] junior league and find the good
[1:04:30] they can come down.
[1:04:34] We are proud to recognize find
[1:04:35] the good day, a celebration of
[1:04:37] kindness, compassion,
[1:04:38] volunteerism and the many
[1:04:45] positive things happening
[1:04:46] throughout our community.
[1:04:46] Observed SEPTEMBER 17, find the
[1:04:47] good day encourages each of us
[1:04:48] to pause and recognize the good
[1:04:56] around us pick whether it is a
[1:04:57] neighbor lending a helping
[1:04:58] hand, volunteer giving their
[1:04:59] time or someone simply taking a
[1:05:00] moment to make another person's
[1:05:01] day brighter.
[1:05:02] We are pleased to recognize the
[1:05:03] important work of the junior
[1:05:04] league of northern virginia
[1:05:07] which has a long-standing
[1:05:08] commitment to volunteerism
[1:05:09] empower women commit a violent
[1:05:10] community leadership, and
[1:05:11] creating full meaningful
[1:05:14] lasting change.
[1:05:15] The board of supervisors hereby
[1:05:20] proclaim SEPTEMBER 7 -- 17 is
[1:05:20] find a good day.
[1:05:20] Et's take
[1:05:22] the opportunity to recognize
[1:05:23] the good to come share the
[1:05:28] good, most importantly to be
[1:05:29] the good in our community.
[1:05:31] Someone like to offer some
[1:05:36] remarks?
[1:05:37] >> my name is karen kennedy and
[1:05:40] I'm the advocacy manager
[1:05:40] .
[1:05:41] We would like to thank the
[1:05:46] chair members of the board or
[1:05:46] honoring us with this
[1:05:50] proclamation and remind folks
[1:05:51] these times and especially now
[1:05:53] it is so important to look
[1:05:54] community and think of and do
[1:05:55] all the things we can delve
[1:05:56] each other.
[1:05:57] With that being said, I want to
[1:06:01] thank you on behalf of the
[1:06:02] northern virginia league
[1:06:03] .
[1:06:08] Thank you.
[1:06:09] >> Chair Deshundra: to my
[1:06:10] colleagues on the dais, we are
[1:06:11] going to take roughly 10
[1:06:16] minutes for recess
[1:06:16] .
[1:06:16] I say roughly because when we
[1:06:17] are done with the last picture
[1:13:39] recess.
[1:13:54] Graduations in retirement.
[1:13:55] >> Chair Deshundra: we love you
[1:13:58] too.
[1:13:59] We love you more.
[1:14:04] But I want to talk about is the
[1:14:07] neabsco greenway and completed.
[1:14:11] Because we are saying for well,
[1:14:12] we lost our great men, and
[1:14:15] parks director who we are going
[1:14:19] to give prince william county
[1:14:22] is happening down here.
[1:14:23] We built managers and city
[1:14:27] managers everywhere.
[1:14:28] He went on to be the city
[1:14:31] manager there.
[1:14:34] But he was able to get my
[1:14:35] greenway come extended for the
[1:14:38] 10 miles and some beta see that
[1:14:40] we been working on the since
[1:14:43] 2019.
[1:14:44] We still love steps to go but
[1:14:49] this is a great lead from when
[1:14:55] I think the team in their parks
[1:14:55] chief was there, chris shorter
[1:15:04] was there we represented down
[1:15:09] there to see our guy off pick
[1:15:09] him want to thank him and his
[1:15:10] team for pulling this last
[1:15:10] piece
[1:15:15] .
[1:15:17] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[1:15:17] If we can go ahead and take our
[1:15:18] vote on those items
[1:15:29] .
[1:15:32] >> vote unanimous
[1:15:32] .
[1:15:33] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:15:35] boddye, you pulled off at 60
[1:15:37] and are who do you have any
[1:15:42] questions?
[1:15:43] >> Kenny Boddye: these are mou
[1:15:48] with potomac mills one is about
[1:15:49] the security cameras and images
[1:15:50] on the other is about a drone
[1:15:51] program.
[1:15:54] Wanted to ask the chief
[1:15:54] .
[1:16:03] MRS. Binet quickly evolving
[1:16:04] situation for both of the
[1:16:05] community but in the broader
[1:16:05] conversation around
[1:16:06] surveillance versus public
[1:16:06] safety.
[1:16:09] I wanted to call the chief up
[1:16:12] about some of these issues.
[1:16:14] I wanted to ask you first about
[1:16:19] 60 first.
[1:16:22] Can you explain what the
[1:16:24] sharing of the cameras and what
[1:16:28] have you and how it would be
[1:16:29] protected with the public
[1:16:33] safety benefit would be?
[1:16:35] >> I'm unusual for police
[1:16:35] .
[1:16:41] Thank you for those questions.
[1:16:42] Before I get begin 1 agree with
[1:16:43] supervisor angry that month is
[1:16:49] also my favorite chief.
[1:16:58] >> shots fired in the chambers.
[1:16:59] Spoke one of the things we have
[1:17:00] is an excellent relationship
[1:17:01] between the police department
[1:17:02] and fire department in one of
[1:17:05] those reasons is because on the
[1:17:06] 49 years of dedicated service
[1:17:07] by that person and so I wish
[1:17:11] him the best in his retirement.
[1:17:12] Supervisor boddye, on the
[1:17:17] digital images we are getting,
[1:17:17] these are only live real-time
[1:17:19] images from some of the cameras
[1:17:23] here GOD for bid we had an
[1:17:24] active violent situation.
[1:17:24] We would be able to tap into
[1:17:28] those for any historical camera
[1:17:33] images we would have to still
[1:17:34] go through the court process to
[1:17:35] get those images.
[1:17:39] >> Kenny Boddye: the video
[1:17:40] sharing relies on software.
[1:17:41] That the software platform
[1:17:41] include automated license plate
[1:17:42] recognition.
[1:17:45] If so, do they talk about that.
[1:17:46] And in talk about that balance?
[1:17:50] >> we don't have any facial
[1:17:58] recognition so no on that.
[1:18:00] We have automated license plate
[1:18:00] readers as you know.
[1:18:01] And they have been a topic of
[1:18:03] much discussion recently
[1:18:03] .
[1:18:04] You and I had a lengthy
[1:18:04] discussion.
[1:18:12] >> Kenny Boddye: moving to the
[1:18:13] drone pilot, would explain how
[1:18:13] these are used and why it was
[1:18:14] selected for the location of
[1:18:16] the pilot program?
[1:18:17] >> the drone as an enhancement
[1:18:18] to our current drone program.
[1:18:24] We have had drones in prince
[1:18:25] william county since 2020 one
[1:18:26] from the way we deploy the
[1:18:31] malice if it's an emergency
[1:18:32] someone has it in the vehicle
[1:18:33] and they drive to the scene.
[1:18:34] This gives us the ability to
[1:18:35] soon as the call is dispatched,
[1:18:38] it only has a 2 mile radius so
[1:18:39] this will be a pilot to see how
[1:18:45] effective it is
[1:18:46] .
[1:18:46] What the drone does is gets on
[1:18:47] the scene quickly and gives
[1:18:48] information to the police
[1:18:49] department and it could give
[1:18:51] information about what is going
[1:18:51] on.
[1:18:58] It would significantly improve
[1:18:59] officer safety is one of the
[1:19:00] valve is giving information to
[1:19:01] the first responders before
[1:19:04] they get there.
[1:19:05] As you know, a lot of other
[1:19:05] jurisdictions I'm gone as a
[1:19:06] first responder.
[1:19:12] We are a little bit late in the
[1:19:12] game.
[1:19:13] And the reason we selected it
[1:19:18] is because we looked at our
[1:19:18] crime and that area is a
[1:19:19] hotspot for crimes.
[1:19:20] >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate
[1:19:20] that.
[1:19:21] You talked about how it would
[1:19:22] be used.
[1:19:25] Can you talk about cases.
[1:19:26] are we talking about violent
[1:19:29] crimes
[1:19:29] .
[1:19:30] Would this be used for
[1:19:31] shoplifting calls, loitering,
[1:19:32] what type of cases would it be
[1:19:37] deployed in.
[1:19:38] >> virginia statute restricts
[1:19:39] the times we could use it and
[1:19:39] when we would be using the
[1:19:42] drones on it is only currently
[1:19:43] use them when it is an
[1:19:46] emergency situation.
[1:19:47] We could send it up in a
[1:19:47] traffic crash to give
[1:19:49] information to the public.
[1:19:49] We could use it as a missing
[1:19:57] person situation, but primarily
[1:19:58] it's for emergencies.
[1:19:59] >> Kenny Boddye: what is being
[1:20:00] done to protect residents
[1:20:01] privacy is drones fly to and
[1:20:01] from scenes?
[1:20:02] They get deployed
[1:20:02] , they fly
[1:20:02] back.
[1:20:06] Are they going to be recording
[1:20:07] to and from her only when they
[1:20:12] get to a scene?
[1:20:13] >> a lot of people learned the
[1:20:14] misimpression that the drones
[1:20:15] are taking images of the
[1:20:18] hallway and that's not true
[1:20:18] .
[1:20:19] The camera is not in the
[1:20:20] position to take images as it
[1:20:21] travels to and from the scene
[1:20:26] of an event.
[1:20:27] >> Kenny Boddye: my last one,
[1:20:27] thank you for your time.
[1:20:28] With the drones be using facial
[1:20:29] recognition or other ai driven
[1:20:29] software?
[1:20:31] >> they would not.
[1:20:32] MAY have a camera access
[1:20:38] information from the camera it
[1:20:39] would be restricted.
[1:20:40] It would be law enforcement
[1:20:41] sensitive and we only use it if
[1:20:44] we had a criminal case
[1:20:44] .
[1:20:45] >> Kenny Boddye: had one final
[1:20:46] question logistically for you.
[1:20:48] If we were to defer this drone
[1:20:49] mou but move forward of the
[1:20:54] other one, is there a time
[1:20:54] sensitivity to it, what have
[1:20:55] you?
[1:20:59] >> for us there is
[1:20:59] .
[1:21:00] Anything that improves officer
[1:21:03] safety I am reluctant to delay
[1:21:05] that.
[1:21:06] Let me give you one example of
[1:21:10] how it could make folks on the
[1:21:12] fireside safe as well
[1:21:13] .
[1:21:14] We get a number of spoof calls
[1:21:20] throughout the weeks when you
[1:21:21] have a:it's an emergency and
[1:21:22] some of the descriptions of
[1:21:23] people: and they say mass
[1:21:24] shooting in that, GOD forbid,
[1:21:26] could happen here
[1:21:26] .
[1:21:27] What we do is send the units
[1:21:33] out there
[1:21:33] .
[1:21:34] If you were able to get a drone
[1:21:35] and they were able to see from
[1:21:36] the scene that there was
[1:21:44] nothing going on, because lower
[1:21:44] unit down pick the most
[1:21:45] dangerous things police
[1:21:46] officers and firefighters do is
[1:21:49] drive an emergency status
[1:21:49] ticket is the reason most
[1:21:50] police officers get killed in
[1:21:51] the line of duty is in car
[1:21:52] crashes picked to be able to
[1:21:55] get a drone there.
[1:22:00] Answer your question, I would
[1:22:01] be reluctant to delay it up at
[1:22:05] all possible.
[1:22:06] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:22:07] vegas.
[1:22:07] >> Yesli Vega: thank you for
[1:22:08] being here.
[1:22:09] I also have those items I
[1:22:12] wanted to talk about
[1:22:23] .
[1:22:24] Supervisor boddye is almost
[1:22:24] asked all the questions I had
[1:22:25] and I want to be clear as
[1:22:26] someone connected to the world
[1:22:27] a law enforcement, I understand
[1:22:28] time is of the essence and when
[1:22:30] it comes to officer safety and
[1:22:30] ensuring we are keeping the
[1:22:31] public safe, certain tools are
[1:22:40] necessary
[1:22:40] .
[1:22:41] In order for officers to do
[1:22:42] their job.
[1:22:43] I want to be clear and on the
[1:22:43] record that I understand
[1:22:44] there's a legitimate concern
[1:22:45] about public safety is there
[1:22:46] are legitimate concerns about
[1:22:48] independent by the sea.
[1:22:49] As a body what we are trying to
[1:22:51] do is how do we answer the
[1:22:59] question in regards to
[1:22:59] government entities
[1:23:00] appropriately protecting both.
[1:23:01] And so with that being said,
[1:23:02] how does this impact for you?
[1:23:08] There is language that states
[1:23:08] footage will not be
[1:23:09] distributed.
[1:23:09] Can you walk us
[1:23:18] through that?
[1:23:19] >> generally because most of
[1:23:20] the information we obtained by
[1:23:21] way of video was related to a
[1:23:21] criminal case, it would be
[1:23:23] investigative in nature and
[1:23:23] that is one of the exceptions
[1:23:24] to a four-year request and that
[1:23:25] is why we would not provide
[1:23:32] that.
[1:23:33] >> Yesli Vega: for those here
[1:23:33] in chambers watching at home, a
[1:23:34] lot of questions came from our
[1:23:35] constituents and so we feel the
[1:23:36] need, the duty to ask those
[1:23:41] questions publicly.
[1:23:41] >> I am happy we are having
[1:23:42] this discussion.
[1:23:43] >> Yesli Vega: moving right
[1:23:44] along in regards to the drone
[1:23:48] request here, I want to say
[1:23:49] when it comes to leading,
[1:23:50] whether it's for these asks or
[1:23:53] how the department conducts
[1:23:54] itself, I don't say because I'm
[1:24:03] bias but when we look at what
[1:24:04] is transpired over the last
[1:24:04] four or five years, our
[1:24:05] department should be commended
[1:24:06] for always taking the lead to.
[1:24:07] Often times we see that things
[1:24:08] are taking place in a different
[1:24:11] manner across the nation.
[1:24:15] When it comes to the department
[1:24:16] think we are proactive rather
[1:24:17] than reactive and we set the
[1:24:19] standard.
[1:24:29] Can these be used to portray
[1:24:30] surveillance without an active
[1:24:30] call?
[1:24:31] >> no.
[1:24:31] >> Yesli Vega: how long is the
[1:24:32] footage retained and who can
[1:24:33] access or share in?
[1:24:34] >> it's 30 days
[1:24:34] .
[1:24:35] It is a very short window of
[1:24:40] time.
[1:24:40] >> in terms of who can access
[1:24:41] or share it?
[1:24:53] >> let me retract the drone
[1:24:53] footage answer.
[1:24:54] Retention is based off of the
[1:24:55] nature of what it captures.
[1:24:56] It's it if it is a criminal
[1:24:57] offense it would be continue to
[1:24:57] be in the system until the
[1:24:58] criminal case was disposed of.
[1:24:59] If it is a non-criminal event
[1:25:09] we would deleted after 30 days.
[1:25:10] And I missed your second
[1:25:10] question.
[1:25:11] >> Yesli Vega: who can access
[1:25:11] it or share it?
[1:25:12] >> the police department.
[1:25:13] >> Yesli Vega: can the drones
[1:25:14] integrate with other tractive
[1:25:15] technologies?
[1:25:15] >> they do not.
[1:25:16] >> Yesli Vega: those are all
[1:25:17] the questions I have.
[1:25:18] Thank you for your
[1:25:18] transparency.
[1:25:19] Really appreciate it.
[1:25:20] >> Chair Deshundra: this is
[1:25:23] been a real big issue with
[1:25:26] consist constituents and it's a
[1:25:30] brand and there is a lot I have
[1:25:30] learned.
[1:25:33] I went to the town hall could
[1:25:35] you address these issues
[1:25:35] .
[1:25:36] There is a lot that we need to
[1:25:37] talk about the differences
[1:25:43] between red light cameras and
[1:25:43] it is access and who has the
[1:25:47] authority to pick them up.
[1:25:48] Listen be a topic of a work
[1:25:54] session coming up making sure
[1:25:55] we have a work session around
[1:25:59] this so we are being
[1:26:00] transparent and big band to
[1:26:01] stay with the police department
[1:26:07] is doing and it gives everyone
[1:26:08] a chance to ask more in-depth
[1:26:08] questions and so with that,
[1:26:12] supervisor bailey?
[1:26:13] >> if I MAY, and I know you
[1:26:13] were at the town hall meeting.
[1:26:14] There is a couple of things I
[1:26:17] would like to say here if I
[1:26:18] could about the license plate
[1:26:25] readers think the statute is
[1:26:26] there a strict to begin with.
[1:26:27] Retention on license plate 20
[1:26:27] one days.
[1:26:32] There are criminal penalties
[1:26:32] for misuse.
[1:26:38] Washington post recently did a
[1:26:38] story about misuse across the
[1:26:39] country by law enforcement
[1:26:43] officers and what that was with
[1:26:43] a failure to audit.
[1:26:48] We audit our license plate hits
[1:26:49] every single day the caller
[1:26:53] officers have to be trained
[1:26:54] before they use it in the two
[1:26:55] trainings emphasizes that there
[1:26:58] is a criminal penalty for
[1:26:59] misuse any of teva criminal
[1:27:00] predicate before you enter a
[1:27:04] tag into the system.
[1:27:08] In policy is tight
[1:27:08] .
[1:27:13] The license plate readers are
[1:27:13] critical.
[1:27:18] In fact, we had 11 homicides in
[1:27:19] the county in eight of the
[1:27:20] homicides I simply reader
[1:27:22] information was extremely
[1:27:23] helpful ensuring those cases
[1:27:26] were closed.
[1:27:27] >> Chair Deshundra: I do want
[1:27:30] to address this.
[1:27:34] Information about our cameras
[1:27:34] in public knowledge we have a
[1:27:36] website, correct?
[1:27:40] >> will 28 cameras fixed and
[1:27:41] for that are mobile and those
[1:27:41] on the
[1:27:45] website.
[1:27:45] And we are being as transparent
[1:27:47] as we can
[1:27:52] .
[1:27:53] The policy here if a police
[1:27:56] officer was to misuse this data
[1:27:57] , they would be charged
[1:27:58] criminally and we make every
[1:27:59] effort to make sure they were
[1:28:03] removed from this department.
[1:28:04] >> Chair Deshundra: I want
[1:28:05] question about a camera out
[1:28:07] there
[1:28:08] .
[1:28:09] Not every surveillance camera
[1:28:09] is installed on their are
[1:28:18] private cameras out there.
[1:28:19] Split the license plate reader
[1:28:20] technology is available and so
[1:28:21] not every camera out there is a
[1:28:21] police camera.
[1:28:24] Our cameras on the 28 and the
[1:28:25] four that we have in the way
[1:28:27] that we deployed those cameras
[1:28:43] is based off of a crime.
[1:28:44] The way that we deploy them in
[1:28:45] the county right now if I'm not
[1:28:46] mistaken is nine in the western
[1:28:47] district, 10 in the eastern
[1:28:47] district.
[1:28:48] > Chair Deshundra: I quickly
[1:28:48] my last bit of time.
[1:28:49] For the once private, do they
[1:28:50] have access to that information
[1:28:52] was that information feed into
[1:28:52] your database.
[1:28:53] >> they don't have access.
[1:29:01] Our information is owned by us.
[1:29:02] We do have access to 10 private
[1:29:03] entities were we have access.
[1:29:05] They cannot get hours.
[1:29:06] >> Chair Deshundra: there are
[1:29:07] so many questions in this is
[1:29:13] such a hot topic.
[1:29:14] With that I will go to
[1:29:14] supervisor bailey.
[1:29:15] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for
[1:29:16] the detailed question.
[1:29:17] I appreciate the in-depth
[1:29:23] questions saying you wanted to
[1:29:24] have this in terms of clarity.
[1:29:25] For clarity sake in terms of as
[1:29:46] we move forward with federal
[1:29:46] agencies.
[1:29:47] And you address that and
[1:29:47] explain to us what that looks
[1:29:54] like if for some reason that
[1:29:54] changes?
[1:29:55] >> I don't anticipate a change.
[1:30:01] Virginia assembly passed a
[1:30:02] statute a year ago JULY which
[1:30:03] restricted us from sharing your
[1:30:04] license plate reader data with
[1:30:08] federal agencies
[1:30:09] .
[1:30:10] That is our data so I don't
[1:30:10] think we could be compelled.
[1:30:14] I
[1:30:15] don't think that we could be
[1:30:19] compelled to share that data.
[1:30:20] >> Andrea Bailey: the type
[1:30:25] reviewed retained the
[1:30:25] information quick
[1:30:31] >> by statute is this 21 days.
[1:30:32] Spoke for the drone it is based
[1:30:34] off of the criminal in nature.
[1:30:48] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:30:50] stuart?
[1:30:51] >> George Stewart: when it
[1:30:56] comes to the private cameras,
[1:30:57] are there any private cameras
[1:30:57] that do not have the ability to
[1:31:01] tie into?
[1:31:03] >> this is privately owned
[1:31:04] cameras and homeowners
[1:31:10] associations the footprints of
[1:31:21] those 10 are generally within
[1:31:22] prince william county.
[1:31:23] >> George Stewart: are they
[1:31:23] subjected to the time period of
[1:31:24] data deletion
[1:31:29] ?
[1:31:30] >> reached out to the vendor
[1:31:31] because I think the retention
[1:31:38] schedule MAY be 30 days
[1:31:39] .
[1:31:40] We wouldn't be able to use
[1:31:40] anything past the 21 days pick
[1:31:41] if we were doing a search and
[1:31:42] it came off one of those
[1:31:46] private cameras
[1:31:46] , we couldn't
[1:31:47] use that information.
[1:31:48] And I think that the vendor is
[1:31:49] going to make within the
[1:31:50] commonwealth they're going to
[1:31:52] make it 21 days because of the
[1:31:55] statute.
[1:31:59] Lettuce my understanding
[1:32:00] .
[1:32:03] >> Andrea Bailey: I do.
[1:32:05] I have five hours left.
[1:32:09] I'm just kidding.
[1:32:10] What you're basically saying
[1:32:11] you have no control over those
[1:32:13] cameras you know control of
[1:32:25] that there are no statutes that
[1:32:26] restrict the ability of a
[1:32:27] privately owned entity to use
[1:32:28] this cameras in any way that
[1:32:32] they want.
[1:32:33] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[1:32:34] very much.
[1:32:35] There are no further questions.
[1:32:36] Do you want to move 60 and are
[1:32:36] forward quick
[1:32:41] >> I want to move 60.
[1:32:42] I would like to move it forward
[1:32:42] for
[1:32:43] approval.
[1:32:43] >> Chair Deshundra: is her
[1:32:53] second.
[1:32:54] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you for
[1:32:54] the conversation we had last
[1:32:57] week in your transparency
[1:32:59] answering our questions.
[1:32:59] We've two websites by the
[1:33:02] principal them website where it
[1:33:05] has the location and the
[1:33:06] specific transparency piece
[1:33:12] using the same platforms as
[1:33:14] these entities
[1:33:14] .
[1:33:16] I wanted to commend the chief
[1:33:17] and team as being transparent.
[1:33:24] That is not the case throughout
[1:33:24] the country
[1:33:25] necessarily.
[1:33:26] I know again that there's a lot
[1:33:27] I community concern around
[1:33:32] these cameras.
[1:33:33] Operated by the county as I
[1:33:34] wanted to highlight that
[1:33:34] as well
[1:33:38] .
[1:33:39] I'm comfortable with the mou
[1:33:40] between the police department
[1:33:41] the potomac mills to move
[1:33:42] forward.
[1:33:55] 's wanted to come in the chief
[1:33:57] again on that understanding
[1:34:03] .
[1:34:04] >> Chair Deshundra: there are
[1:34:05] no other comments a let's take
[1:34:35] our votes.
[1:34:36] >> Chair Deshundra: let's move
[1:34:37] to six are would you like to
[1:34:40] move that one forward.
[1:34:41] > Kenny Boddye: I hesitate.
[1:34:42] I understand the chief's dance
[1:34:49] on the safety of officers
[1:34:50] having the first responder be a
[1:34:50] drone but I would really love
[1:34:52] for us to have a more robust
[1:34:52] conversation.
[1:34:54] Perhaps in the context of the
[1:34:54] work session before we move
[1:34:55] forward but want to see what my
[1:34:55] colleagues have to say about
[1:34:58] it.
[1:34:59] >> Chair Deshundra: I prefer to
[1:35:13] have discussion motion.
[1:35:13] >> Yesli Vega: I'm supportive
[1:35:14] of this.
[1:35:15] It's not just a matter of
[1:35:15] officer safety when you talk
[1:35:17] about drone technology if you
[1:35:18] have a missing child, somebody
[1:35:19] of house autism for example or
[1:35:20] somebody part of the elderly
[1:35:20] committee and suffers from
[1:35:25] dementia because at earlier
[1:35:26] that you never know how
[1:35:27] something will impact you until
[1:35:28] it hits home and I think this
[1:35:32] is needed become satisfied of
[1:35:33] the framework provided in the
[1:35:34] safeguards that have been put
[1:35:36] in place in them a bit of
[1:35:37] further discussion work
[1:35:39] session, but for the reasons I
[1:35:46] will be supporting this today
[1:35:47] >> I second it
[1:35:48] nderstand the citizens and
[1:35:50] concerns but I was there on the
[1:35:57] side of caution.
[1:36:08] To help our police and I rather
[1:36:09] err on the side of putting this
[1:36:09] in place to prevent something
[1:36:10] from going on the missing
[1:36:10] opportunity
[1:36:11] something bad
[1:36:11] happens.
[1:36:15] I'm open for more discussion
[1:36:18] but for that I support this.
[1:36:24] >> supervisor bailey?
[1:36:25] >> Andrea Bailey: there is
[1:36:25] opportunity for us to talk to
[1:36:29] the community even more and to
[1:36:29] make sure that they have a
[1:36:33] sense of security.
[1:36:39] And think we do need to air on
[1:36:40] the side of caution to make
[1:36:41] sure that we are putting public
[1:36:44] safety employees in the best
[1:36:44] light forward to ensure that we
[1:36:47] are protecting them as well
[1:36:50] .
[1:36:51] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:36:51] lacroix?
[1:36:54] >> Jeannie LaCroix: I'm going
[1:36:56] to be supporting it and I think
[1:36:57] there needs to be a lot of
[1:37:02] guardrails
[1:37:03] .
[1:37:03] It can be used either way.
[1:37:04] I'm going to support it because
[1:37:07] I think her officers need to
[1:37:12] have the latest and greatest.
[1:37:13] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going
[1:37:14] to say a few quick words.
[1:37:15] I understand the security
[1:37:15] issues
[1:37:16] .
[1:37:17] I understand people are nervous
[1:37:18] about the different types of
[1:37:20] surveillance out there
[1:37:20] .
[1:37:23] And the policies and the
[1:37:23] procedures
[1:37:30] .
[1:37:31] Is keeping them when men and
[1:37:34] women who chosen public service
[1:37:35] to keep our community safe and
[1:37:39] secure making sure we are not
[1:37:40] putting their lives at risk and
[1:37:56] they are using the technology
[1:37:57] that I would like to go ahead
[1:37:59] and call for the votes.
[1:38:16] >> but unanimous.
[1:38:21] Supervisors
[1:38:22] boddye and stewart abstaining
[1:38:23] from the vote.
[1:38:25] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[1:38:27] We are now moving to six us
[1:38:29] .
[1:38:30] Supervisor vega.
[1:38:31] >> Yesli Vega: I'm going to
[1:38:34] direct my questions to eric on
[1:38:35] executive and this is in
[1:38:41] regards to the transferring
[1:38:41] request of $48,000 in the
[1:38:42] police department animal
[1:38:43] service bureau budget to
[1:38:44] provide additional funding for
[1:38:45] the expansion of the counties
[1:38:46] trump a new to vaccinate
[1:38:47] release program pick for the
[1:38:50] sake of consistency, we are not
[1:38:52] adding a new expense outside of
[1:39:07] the budget cycle.
[1:39:08] >> thank you for the question.
[1:39:09] The funding for the item is
[1:39:10] being reprogrammed funding.
[1:39:11] It is being reprogrammed.
[1:39:11] E
[1:39:13] are not going to art reserve to
[1:39:14] get the funding picket is
[1:39:19] coming is a report programming
[1:39:20] request.
[1:39:24] >> Yesli Vega: based on my
[1:39:25] readings, correct me if I am
[1:39:26] wrong
[1:39:27] , we are going to seek
[1:39:30] outside parties in order to
[1:39:39] take care of this request.
[1:39:40] >> as a reminder $48,000 is the
[1:39:40] curtain budget the animal
[1:39:41] services staff use for this
[1:39:42] program based on the directive
[1:39:48] from supervisor lacroix in
[1:39:49] JULY.
[1:39:49] We move forward to identify
[1:39:51] $48,000 from within the police
[1:39:54] department
[1:39:54] .
[1:39:55] If approved today we will be
[1:39:58] working with third-party
[1:39:59] organizations and nonprofits
[1:40:01] who service the community here
[1:40:04] in prince william county.
[1:40:07] This will be a grant program
[1:40:10] and am excited the police
[1:40:11] department worked so quickly we
[1:40:12] are.
[1:40:13] You plan to put out an
[1:40:14] announcement
[1:40:14] .
[1:40:20] If approved for us to push
[1:40:20] information to the community
[1:40:21] and hold an information session
[1:40:23] based on the request from
[1:40:27] supervisor lacroix
[1:40:27] .
[1:40:28] >> Yesli Vega: the last
[1:40:29] question I have because it is
[1:40:32] in the form of a grant and we
[1:40:34] are using third parties to help
[1:40:35] us solve an issue, what metrics
[1:40:37] or data are we going to have in
[1:40:43] place that lets us as a county
[1:40:44] know that the job is actually
[1:40:45] being taken care of.
[1:40:52] >> but we are planning to do
[1:40:52] where we will review which
[1:40:54] organizations ultimately apply
[1:40:54] ,
[1:40:56] or qualifications they
[1:41:00] currently have
[1:41:00] .
[1:41:01] We will make sure that they are
[1:41:04] registered as a nonprofit
[1:41:05] within the community.
[1:41:09] We will lend that process about
[1:41:10] the number of cats they served
[1:41:14] in the past and we will have
[1:41:15] reporting requirements
[1:41:17] .
[1:41:18] The one-year timeframe we would
[1:41:22] be requesting the organizations
[1:41:34] reports of what they've done I
[1:41:34] will be looking at the reports
[1:41:35] to make sure that the number of
[1:41:36] cats that they neutered is
[1:41:37] consistent with what they
[1:41:39] reported they would do
[1:41:39] .
[1:41:45] I would remind you on the board
[1:41:46] the because this is a grant and
[1:41:47] not a contract like once the
[1:41:48] grant funding goes out we would
[1:41:50] not be able to pull that grant
[1:41:54] funding back in.
[1:41:55] Once the money is approved and
[1:42:00] it goes out it will be granted
[1:42:01] and not people back into the
[1:42:05] government.
[1:42:10] >> understand when it comes to
[1:42:10] this.
[1:42:11] I asked for those on the county
[1:42:15] side to be vigilant ensuring
[1:42:16] these funds are adequately
[1:42:18] being used so we can address
[1:42:19] the issue we have and I will
[1:42:23] anxiously be waiting for those
[1:42:28] reports for granted not support
[1:42:29] the initial request but MR.
[1:42:31] Shorter provided answers to the
[1:42:32] questions and doubts and so i
[1:42:33] will be supporting this ask
[1:42:37] here today.
[1:42:38] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[1:42:39] so much.
[1:42:39] Supervisor lacroix?
[1:42:41] >> Jeannie LaCroix: thank you
[1:42:45] for supporting it today
[1:42:46] .
[1:42:46] We have a kitty emergency going
[1:42:50] on in prince william county.
[1:42:52] I want to mention that this is
[1:42:55] money we had for the because we
[1:42:58] did not use because of
[1:42:59] something going on with the
[1:43:08] animal shelter.
[1:43:09] It's really important to get
[1:43:09] this up.
[1:43:10] That is what chris has done for
[1:43:11] me is to make sure that we get
[1:43:12] the money out as quickly as
[1:43:18] possible so the people that is
[1:43:24] how they got the 48,000 to be a
[1:43:25] yearly amount that goes towards
[1:43:27] this program.
[1:43:28] We to get those people together
[1:43:29] and chris will speak more on
[1:43:34] this later but thank you for
[1:43:35] the questions on this is really
[1:43:39] important because we missed the
[1:43:45] meeting season
[1:43:45] , we do have a
[1:43:54] crisis on our hands.
[1:43:55] Make a motion not go forward.
[1:43:56] >> Chair Deshundra: were there
[1:44:05] any other questions?
[1:44:05] Or comments?
[1:44:06] >> Kenny Boddye: I have a
[1:44:06] question.
[1:44:07] >> Chair Deshundra: okay.
[1:44:08] You have a question.
[1:44:08] I ask we vacate the motion and
[1:44:10] the second
[1:44:10] .
[1:44:11] Supervisor boddye has a
[1:44:16] question
[1:44:16] .
[1:44:17] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you.
[1:44:18] It goes along the same vein of
[1:44:19] why supervisor vega was going
[1:44:20] .
[1:44:20] this is a reprogramming of
[1:44:26] funds and the funds we weren't
[1:44:26] able to allocate because of
[1:44:31] issues at the animal services
[1:44:32] for this year it is not a new
[1:44:33] expenditure.
[1:44:33] The only question is since we
[1:44:37] are setting up a program
[1:44:38] , when
[1:44:38] you talk about what it looks
[1:44:42] like and to the point that
[1:44:46] supervisor vega made the review
[1:44:46] criteria.
[1:44:47] It is going to be open for
[1:44:49] different folks to be awarded
[1:44:52] different money to come with
[1:44:55] outlook.
[1:44:56] >> I want to make two
[1:44:58] statements pick funding
[1:45:00] programmed for the purpose is
[1:45:03] no longer available.
[1:45:10] They would be closed for fy 25.
[1:45:12] Fy 26
[1:45:14] .
[1:45:20] He $48,000 animal services will
[1:45:21] be using is what is budgeted
[1:45:22] based on the approval for this
[1:45:26] year
[1:45:26] .
[1:45:27] The $48,000 being considered
[1:45:28] today would be $40,000 that the
[1:45:31] police department would've used
[1:45:36] but is being reprogrammed.
[1:45:36] For future years we would need
[1:45:42] to come back as part of the
[1:45:43] budget process to get the
[1:45:44] board's approval or
[1:45:48] consideration if the program
[1:45:49] outside about the police
[1:45:50] department does at the animal
[1:45:55] service center
[1:45:55] , we would need
[1:45:56] the board's green light to move
[1:45:57] this forward in a more
[1:45:59] permanent program
[1:45:59] .
[1:46:00] And for so for this year it is
[1:46:01] a grant program pick of the
[1:46:06] board requests and improved
[1:46:07] request to make the outside
[1:46:09] funding permanent
[1:46:09] , we would
[1:46:12] have time to put this in the
[1:46:13] form of a contract in of clear
[1:46:18] performance metrics
[1:46:19] .
[1:46:20] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:46:20] bailey?
[1:46:22] >> Andrea Bailey: I would like
[1:46:26] to have my turn
[1:46:26] .
[1:46:28] This is something in terms of
[1:46:35] continuity we did at the
[1:46:36] previous administration.
[1:46:36] And supervisor
[1:46:37] lacroix, good I.
[1:46:41] Like in baseball you caught it
[1:46:41] and brought it back and
[1:46:45] reprogrammed to the funding of
[1:46:47] the animal shelter, we talked
[1:46:52] about this for no other reason
[1:46:53] than as a reminder collectively
[1:46:59] on the board because we built a
[1:47:00] new animal shelter we have to
[1:47:01] put things that have not been
[1:47:02] put in place for a very long
[1:47:04] time.
[1:47:07] The question supervisor vega
[1:47:11] you mentioned about is is it
[1:47:12] new money or not is a very
[1:47:14] appropriate question
[1:47:14] .
[1:47:19] Is headed earlier, but we
[1:47:20] appreciate the reprogramming of
[1:47:20] the funding to let the
[1:47:23] community know we are not being
[1:47:28] over excessive.
[1:47:29] >> Chair Deshundra: I know a
[1:47:30] couple other people are in the
[1:47:33] queue
[1:47:33] .
[1:47:33] If we can keep our comments
[1:47:34] until we go back and do the
[1:47:35] motion.
[1:47:37] Did you have a question?
[1:47:42] You have a statement
[1:47:42] .
[1:47:43] I want everyone who has a
[1:47:44] question
[1:47:45] .
[1:47:49] if you have, let's go ahead and
[1:47:50] redo the motion so you can make
[1:47:53] a statement.
[1:47:54] >> Andrea Bailey: I do have a
[1:47:54] question.
[1:47:57] Is that okay?
[1:48:02] What I would like to ask is as
[1:48:03] we reprogrammed these funds
[1:48:06] will it be brought back.
[1:48:11] As we reprogram, we will be
[1:48:14] brought back in the budget
[1:48:14] cycle.
[1:48:15] Does one of us have to initiate
[1:48:19] that since it is reprogramming
[1:48:20] funds?
[1:48:24] >> we are hoping the
[1:48:25] application process
[1:48:25] , and I can
[1:48:29] explain this later for the
[1:48:31] benefit of supervisor lacroix
[1:48:31] .
[1:48:36] What we plan to do by
[1:48:37] mid-SEPTEMBER and started the
[1:48:38] application process and made
[1:48:43] some selections will bring
[1:48:44] those back to the board for the
[1:48:44] board
[1:48:45] awareness.
[1:48:47] The funds would be issued via
[1:48:58] grant to issue those funds by
[1:48:59] way of a grant.
[1:49:04] If the board decides is he
[1:49:09] program similar to this in
[1:49:10] addition to what the animal
[1:49:12] services center does by way of
[1:49:15] trap, neuter, vaccinate and
[1:49:17] release
[1:49:17] .
[1:49:21] The board would consider it
[1:49:22] along with the other budget
[1:49:26] proposals and if it becomes a
[1:49:30] permanent program we would work
[1:49:31] toward a more permanent
[1:49:32] contracting vehicle
[1:49:40] .
[1:49:41] >> I make a motion we move
[1:49:43] forward
[1:49:43] .
[1:49:49] >> second
[1:49:49] .
[1:49:50] >> Chair Deshundra: properly
[1:49:50] moved and seconded.
[1:49:51] Upervisor
[1:49:55] lacroix?
[1:49:56] >> Jeannie LaCroix: it's my
[1:49:58] understanding in the
[1:49:58] understanding of animal
[1:50:07] activists out there this is a
[1:50:08] program that it will be taken
[1:50:09] over completely and totally
[1:50:15] buyer animal shelter.
[1:50:16] We have had issues with the
[1:50:17] heating and air system or their
[1:50:21] system.
[1:50:22] .
[1:50:22] That is my understanding but
[1:50:24] until we get the we have people
[1:50:26] willing to help out for the
[1:50:27] time being.
[1:50:31] That is only one
[1:50:38] essay.
[1:50:39] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[1:50:40] boddye.
[1:50:40] >> Kenny Boddye: I wanted to
[1:50:41] thank supervisor lacroix.
[1:50:41] Nd
[1:50:42] jumping on the opportunity
[1:50:47] presented by the activists.
[1:50:48] We got a bout of emails and
[1:50:48] calls.
[1:50:49] Our employees to the animal
[1:50:50] advisory board are inundated.
[1:50:51] Wanted to thank you and commend
[1:51:07] you for that.
[1:51:08] And supplement what is offered
[1:51:13] as a standup of the clinic and
[1:51:14] the only reason I brought up
[1:51:15] the question as we have folks
[1:51:18] want to help the community and
[1:51:19] so not not close the door
[1:51:19] completely.
[1:51:20] Maybe down the line we figure
[1:51:25] out our vet clinic can't
[1:51:26] respond to the demand alone and
[1:51:27] be able to bring community
[1:51:28] partners doing great work
[1:51:28] .
[1:51:29] Again, we will be supporting
[1:51:32] this wholeheartedly and knowing
[1:51:34] we have an opportunity and
[1:51:35] subsequent use to supplement
[1:51:38] this with a program that looks
[1:51:43] at community as well.
[1:51:44] >> I want to say when we can
[1:51:45] leverage the volunteer
[1:51:46] community
[1:51:53] on something of this nature.
[1:51:54] It is something worth doing
[1:51:55] rather than trying to put this
[1:51:56] completely on the backs of the
[1:52:02] government officials when we
[1:52:03] have interested parties willing
[1:52:03] to step up and take on the
[1:52:11] challenge and do it.
[1:52:11] Government can sometimes
[1:52:20] provide the resources of the
[1:52:21] work that can be done hubby
[1:52:22] leverage more outside of the
[1:52:22] government within the
[1:52:23] community.
[1:52:26] Thank you for your leadership
[1:52:27] we have had many folks come
[1:52:27] and.
[1:52:30] >> Kenny Boddye: us and I live
[1:52:31] in knoxville
[1:52:33] .
[1:52:34] Coyotes take care of the cats
[1:52:36] out there
[1:52:37] .
[1:52:40] I'm just kidding.
[1:52:41] There is natural selection that
[1:52:45] takes place in some parts of
[1:52:46] the county that doesn't take
[1:52:47] place in other parts of the
[1:52:54] county.
[1:52:55] It's a problem that needs to be
[1:53:00] addressed looking at a
[1:53:01] community solution is the right
[1:53:04] way to go and I appreciate the
[1:53:09] work that is been done.
[1:53:10] >> Chair Deshundra: you know
[1:53:11] how much I love cats.
[1:53:14] >> any dog people out there?
[1:53:15] >> Chair Deshundra: let's move
[1:53:16] on
[1:53:16] .
[1:53:17] I would like to call for the
[1:53:29] vote.
[1:53:30] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go to
[1:53:33] public comment time
[1:53:34] .
[1:53:34] For those of you if this is
[1:53:35] your first time speaking I will
[1:53:36] call people up in groups of
[1:53:38] five
[1:53:38] .
[1:53:43] He will go to the back.
[1:53:44] You will do minutes to speak on
[1:53:45] any item you are choosing pick
[1:53:46] up the back screen is a timer.
[1:53:47] Please watch it.
[1:53:53] I ask that everyone begin by
[1:53:54] stating your name and where you
[1:53:56] reside.
[1:53:57] I don't need your address
[1:53:58] unless you want to give it
[1:53:58] .
[1:54:08] But where you the manchester
[1:54:08] adjuster to where you reside.
[1:54:09] First I will call up john
[1:54:10] payne, chris brown, keith
[1:54:18] snyder, sunny kofi.
[1:54:19] Going to call up six people
[1:54:19] because I only have six.
[1:54:23] Kimberly and melanie if each of
[1:54:30] you can go to the bank.
[1:54:31] Start by saying your name in
[1:54:32] magisterial district where you
[1:54:32] reside.
[1:54:40] You MAY begin.
[1:54:43] >> adopted noon.
[1:54:48] My name is john payne.
[1:54:48] I live in the coles district
[1:54:49] only jackson drive.
[1:54:50] I've been a resident for 40
[1:54:52] years and I've been a resident
[1:54:58] all my life I wanted is your
[1:54:59] history with you with respect
[1:55:01] to what I'm asking when I came
[1:55:05] back from college in 74, the
[1:55:08] town of manassas was crippled
[1:55:13] by economic decline
[1:55:14] .
[1:55:14] My father was on the city
[1:55:15] council and he and I worked on
[1:55:16] the idea of creating a historic
[1:55:17] district and I did a lotto leg
[1:55:20] work creating a historic
[1:55:24] district of manassas
[1:55:24] .
[1:55:25] it was not popular but it paid
[1:55:26] its fruits today and you can
[1:55:30] see what happened because of
[1:55:31] the preservation of some of the
[1:55:34] properties.
[1:55:36] There is one gentleman who was
[1:55:39] a historian vicki said I don't
[1:55:40] know why you're doing this
[1:55:41] because everything worth saving
[1:55:44] is gone
[1:55:44] .
[1:55:45] I don't want that to be the
[1:55:48] case my father was a city
[1:55:51] COUNCILMAN Responsible for
[1:55:56] location of the manassas
[1:55:57] airport instrumental in
[1:56:00] beginning like manassas on that
[1:56:01] counsel spent money in a way
[1:56:03] fully visioned in the future
[1:56:08] they understood the need and
[1:56:09] our accounting as a result of
[1:56:10] that.
[1:56:14] Was a resident there were 1800
[1:56:14] people.
[1:56:18] I think there were 190,000+
[1:56:28] that have manassas as an area.
[1:56:28] As we go down the parkway there
[1:56:33] are two barns that been saved
[1:56:33] and asked you what would to
[1:56:35] silos be without the barn
[1:56:39] .
[1:56:40] My request is he reconsider the
[1:56:41] task of looking up bennett
[1:56:44] school
[1:56:44] .
[1:56:45] When I was taught as an
[1:56:50] architect, you never drew more
[1:56:51] in the morning they did you
[1:56:52] could raise in the afternoon
[1:56:53] this is an opportunity to look
[1:56:57] up what its importance this to
[1:57:02] the residence and the culture
[1:57:03] of prince william county.
[1:57:03] A lotta people of talked about
[1:57:07] the with previous speeches.
[1:57:10] I was present when it took
[1:57:17] place at the school and I think
[1:57:18] the architectural character can
[1:57:19] be incorporated into the new
[1:57:20] courthouse so if someone was
[1:57:23] asking direction they would not
[1:57:24] see the big building that down
[1:57:25] there.
[1:57:28] Looks think education epic part
[1:57:30] of the courthouse.
[1:57:35] Thank you very much.
[1:57:36] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[1:57:49] Next speaker, please.
[1:57:50] >> my speech is stuck in the
[1:57:51] computer so I will read it from
[1:57:54] here
[1:57:54] .
[1:57:55] I've come to speak about the
[1:58:09] proposed lodges proposed for
[1:58:09] the corner of tarp and then 55
[1:58:17] in gainesville
[1:58:17] .
[1:58:18] My reasons opposing the project
[1:58:21] are twofold.
[1:58:22] The first of which is the
[1:58:23] traffic it will bring to my
[1:58:27] neighborhood we are to have the
[1:58:28] congestion caused by the
[1:58:31] construction across the street
[1:58:31] .
[1:58:34] If this is approved we would
[1:58:37] have a will more traffic.
[1:58:37] Who up to contend with the
[1:58:39] daily truck traffic by the
[1:58:39] warehouse.
[1:58:44] Across the street
[1:58:44] .
[1:58:45] >> Chair Deshundra: hold on.
[1:58:46] E are actually going to have
[1:58:52] a public hearing on the topic
[1:58:52] vicki will have a chance to
[1:58:53] speak in the public hearing
[1:58:55] rather than public comment time
[1:58:56] .
[1:58:56] During the public hearing same
[1:59:02] rules, but better captures your
[1:59:03] comments on there might be
[1:59:07] other people speaking about
[1:59:07] particular issues I wanted to
[1:59:08] give you the opportunity to
[1:59:18] speak then.
[1:59:19] >> you don't want me to finish.
[1:59:20] >> Chair Deshundra: you can but
[1:59:21] it would be better for you to
[1:59:21] speak in the public hearing.
[1:59:22] >> is that hours from now?
[1:59:23] Be when it is next on the
[1:59:24] agenda we will see if we have
[1:59:25] anyone virtual and then we go
[1:59:29] to the public hearing.
[1:59:32] It's not going to take forever.
[1:59:35] >> will be the second speaker
[1:59:35] quick.
[1:59:36] >> Chair Deshundra: keith, are
[1:59:37] you also here for that or what
[1:59:42] are you here for?
[1:59:43] >> I'm here to request we start
[1:59:44] looking at sanitizing data
[1:59:46] centers
[1:59:46] .
[1:59:47] >> Chair Deshundra: go on.
[1:59:48] State your name and where you
[1:59:51] reside.
[1:59:52] >> and we use the overhead
[1:59:52] projector?
[1:59:56] >> Chair Deshundra: you can.
[1:59:57] It is going to take us a
[2:00:11] minute.
[2:00:15] >> my name is stevie.
[2:00:16] I live in the gainesville
[2:00:20] district.
[2:00:21] With no proactive measures in
[2:00:22] place
[2:00:26] , ai pornography will do
[2:00:31] our datacenter to man
[2:00:31] .
[2:00:38] And answer exists.
[2:00:39] This is the official federal
[2:00:41] standards for disposing of data
[2:00:46] storage media.
[2:00:50] Members of the board, we have
[2:00:51] 300 datacenter is constructed
[2:00:51] in our state that are without
[2:00:52] power.
[2:00:57] Not sure how much tax revenue
[2:00:57] those are generating.
[2:00:58] We allowed the clearcutting of
[2:00:59] our forests and destruction of
[2:01:03] watersheds to build monuments
[2:01:07] to grid failure and for what.
[2:01:08] If you analyze the server
[2:01:09] demand driving this endless
[2:01:10] expansion, you will find it is
[2:01:11] bloated by the hoarding of
[2:01:13] illicit
[2:01:13] , degrading and illegal
[2:01:17] content
[2:01:17] .
[2:01:18] We are sacrificing our
[2:01:19] commonwealth to act as a
[2:01:21] digital landfill think it's
[2:01:25] time to serve the scrub clean
[2:01:34] and digital waste before we
[2:01:35] think about approving another
[2:01:39] permit to poor mass of hot
[2:01:39] footprint on our beloved
[2:01:42] virginia to grieve a choice but
[2:01:43] to protect the dignity and
[2:01:46] integrity of this land or be
[2:01:47] the architects of a disposable
[2:01:50] planet
[2:01:50] .
[2:01:53] We the people are pleading to
[2:01:59] elected officials everywhere.
[2:02:00] Please clean up the data
[2:02:00] centers and stop cutting down
[2:02:07] the cherry trees.
[2:02:08] Thank you.
[2:02:09] I found the guidelines for
[2:02:09] media sanitization in last 24
[2:02:13] hours
[2:02:13] .
[2:02:13] I thought it was encouraging
[2:02:17] that to be creative
[2:02:17] .
[2:02:18] It is quite enlightening to
[2:02:23] find that exists.
[2:02:29] Their processes
[2:02:29] .
[2:02:29] It is something that hasn't
[2:02:30] been implemented because nobody
[2:02:31] demanded it to be proactively
[2:02:34] implemented.
[2:02:37] This would really help a lot of
[2:02:38] things take place with a lot
[2:02:41] more sanity.
[2:02:41] Thank you.
[2:02:46] We can do this.
[2:02:47] Our name is prince will im for
[2:02:47] a reason.
[2:02:47] Thank you.
[2:02:50] Will im, will we
[2:02:59] are.
[2:03:01] >> Chair Deshundra: next
[2:03:21] speaker, please.
[2:03:22] could you put the timer back
[2:03:22] on?
[2:03:23] My name is doctor kimberly.
[2:03:27] I am a resident of gainesville.
[2:03:28] Last time I was here and I
[2:03:28] spoke to you all I told you
[2:03:33] about how their systematic
[2:03:33] violation occurring in prince
[2:03:36] william county virginia m. I
[2:03:36] didn't hear back from anyone of
[2:03:37] you.
[2:03:42] Not one of you I heard
[2:03:43] back from and that's
[2:03:44] interesting because I told you
[2:03:44] about how there was a
[2:03:46] whistleblower teacher contacted
[2:03:53] me on my cell phone saying they
[2:03:54] are violating so much laws your
[2:03:55] daughter civil rights are being
[2:03:56] violated and they're trying to
[2:03:59] sweep it under the rug.
[2:03:59] My speech, one of them went
[2:04:04] viral with 5 million views
[2:04:04] .
[2:04:05] And thankfully there are audio
[2:04:06] recordings being posted for
[2:04:08] anybody who wants to hear the
[2:04:09] audio recordings go to insured
[2:04:12] of help on costs.
[2:04:13] The other interesting thing
[2:04:15] happened that even though I
[2:04:17] didn't hear back from you, I
[2:04:18] did hear back from other
[2:04:21] whistleblower teachers procure
[2:04:28] is an email dated MAY 26.
[2:04:29] You MAY want to dig into all of
[2:04:30] the complaints including eye
[2:04:31] level administrative people who
[2:04:32] left because of the unethical
[2:04:34] and illegal practices in
[2:04:35] schools and central offices
[2:04:35] would estimate in the hundreds
[2:04:36] of
[2:04:36] people.
[2:04:41] This person emailed again but
[2:04:42] they said they would only hire
[2:04:43] young people who people who say
[2:04:48] what they are told even though
[2:04:49] it is unethical and illegal and
[2:04:52] not right for kids.
[2:04:53] submitted a request.
[2:04:54] You talked about transparency.
[2:04:55] I paid over $1000 this
[2:04:56] whistleblower told me what to
[2:04:59] ask for your internal documents
[2:05:00] pick people talking about
[2:05:03] restraint of disabled kids,
[2:05:05] disk termination, seclusion,
[2:05:05] very serious civil rights
[2:05:09] violations to get paid over
[2:05:10] $1000 and it is still being
[2:05:11] withheld
[2:05:11] .
[2:05:14] I have to go to court to try to
[2:05:15] get it.
[2:05:17] I'm asking for the federal
[2:05:20] government to investigate this
[2:05:21] school district board for what
[2:05:25] they are allowing because it is
[2:05:26] a civil rights abuse like no
[2:05:27] other we have seen.
[2:05:28] I ask you to put this up here
[2:05:31] because we also talked about
[2:05:31] money.
[2:05:32] You are quibbling over how to
[2:05:36] spend 3 to 5 grand piglets look
[2:05:37] at the invoices of what your
[2:05:38] school district, mind you I
[2:05:41] mentioned that wade anderson
[2:05:41] ,
[2:05:42] former employee.
[2:05:43] Let's see what he is paying
[2:05:43] for.
[2:05:45] And here is one invoice for
[2:05:52] $55,000 in one month.
[2:05:53] Is another one for 37,000.
[2:05:54] Is another one for $99,000 a
[2:05:57] month figure is another one for
[2:05:59] $34,000 in one month that goes
[2:06:01] on and on and on.
[2:06:02] What else do they have.
[2:06:03] You're paying for these
[2:06:07] attorneys to eat and stay at a
[2:06:13] residence in that's where our
[2:06:14] tax dollars are going.
[2:06:15] The level of fraud, corruption,
[2:06:18] abuse of our funds is
[2:06:19] astronomical and if you don't
[2:06:19] do anything musky for the
[2:06:21] federal government to
[2:06:22] investigate because it is
[2:06:29] disgusting.
[2:06:31] >> Chair Deshundra: I want to
[2:06:32] acknowledge we don't have the
[2:06:32] authority to investigate the
[2:06:35] school board.
[2:06:36] They are a separately elected
[2:06:37] body you are still welcome to
[2:06:38] come and speak.
[2:06:42] Next speaker, please.
[2:06:46] >> my name is sonny.
[2:06:52] I'm in the burnsville district.
[2:06:53] I am here to talk about senate
[2:07:02] bill sb 45 the past the
[2:07:04] legislature and it involves the
[2:07:09] implementation of the
[2:07:09] comprehensive plan
[2:07:10] .
[2:07:14] It says to all the next is will
[2:07:16] a subsequent comprehensive
[2:07:21] plans and the opportunities are
[2:07:22] there to identify environmental
[2:07:27] justice in communities.
[2:07:30] That's it.
[2:07:34] Thank you for your time.
[2:07:37] >> thank you very much.
[2:07:43] Next speaker, please.
[2:07:44] >> my name is melody.
[2:07:46] I've spoken a billion times
[2:07:46] .
[2:07:47] I wanted to take a quick
[2:07:53] moment.
[2:07:54] And since all of you enjoy an
[2:07:55] email and I appreciate you guys
[2:07:56] bringing some of the questions
[2:08:03] forward
[2:08:03] .
[2:08:04] I do want to state as a first
[2:08:05] responder I do actually support
[2:08:06] the underlying public safety
[2:08:06] intent but I read the actual
[2:08:09] mou and I had really grave
[2:08:14] concerns
[2:08:14] .
[2:08:15] If it is not written, it's not
[2:08:15] real.
[2:08:16] You can say whatever you want
[2:08:17] in the form like the chief of
[2:08:19] police said we don't do them.
[2:08:24] Not we can do that or we
[2:08:26] haven't done that, not we can't
[2:08:27] do that.
[2:08:28] There are wordings that worry
[2:08:32] me because it's a really broad
[2:08:33] road you can drive a lot of
[2:08:37] trucks through there.
[2:08:40] Before we implement the pilots
[2:08:40] and finalize some of this
[2:08:47] stuff, everybody in the room
[2:08:48] has heard ben franklin say
[2:08:49] those who sacrifice liberty for
[2:08:52] safety deserve neither liberty
[2:08:53] or safety.
[2:08:56] Public safety is a valid
[2:08:57] concern but so is the right to
[2:09:01] privacy weeks was the right to
[2:09:02] move around this county doing
[2:09:06] whatever you want to do within
[2:09:07] the boundaries of the law and
[2:09:08] not be observed for somebody
[2:09:11] else to judge those actions.
[2:09:12] The other thing I want to point
[2:09:14] out someone who works with
[2:09:14] facial recognition fairly
[2:09:18] regularly
[2:09:19] .
[2:09:19] Because you don't in your
[2:09:22] contract of access to all the
[2:09:23] data the cameras collect, there
[2:09:26] are many companies and this has
[2:09:32] borne out nationally.
[2:09:33] What they sell to you is not
[2:09:34] often the sum total of what
[2:09:37] their devices actually collect.
[2:09:38] Just because principal them
[2:09:45] doesn't have access
[2:09:46] , if they
[2:09:46] contract to a company where
[2:09:47] their devices are capable of
[2:09:48] facial recognition they MAY be
[2:09:50] collecting facial recognition
[2:09:51] and you were not paying for it.
[2:09:52] That your point, there are
[2:09:53] plenty of facial recognition
[2:09:54] things going on but the
[2:09:58] argument everybody is doing it
[2:09:59] is juvenile and I think that we
[2:10:06] can do better.
[2:10:07] Would recommend or I would
[2:10:08] respectfully ask the board hold
[2:10:09] public comment sessions before
[2:10:09] we start rolling this out
[2:10:12] permanently
[2:10:12] .
[2:10:13] I would ask you amend some of
[2:10:14] these to narrow what
[2:10:15] circumstances are defined as a.
[2:10:17] Emergency means a lot of things
[2:10:19] to a lot of different people
[2:10:20] there big laws about what
[2:10:24] public rights those have.
[2:10:28] I would ask you require some
[2:10:29] level of independently review
[2:10:31] of how these programs are used
[2:10:38] in put public notice and
[2:10:39] signage at the mall with
[2:10:39] deletion policies publicly
[2:10:39] posted.
[2:10:41] I would ask you to establish it
[2:10:44] complaint process
[2:10:44] .
[2:10:45] I have plenty more to say so
[2:10:46] thank you so much for your
[2:10:46] time.
[2:10:51] I appreciate it.
[2:10:52] >> Chair Deshundra: we are
[2:10:53] going to move to remote public
[2:10:53] comment time.
[2:10:57] To be have anyone?
[2:10:58] >> I have a list of 10 but do
[2:10:58] we have any online?
[2:11:01] >> we do not have anybody on
[2:11:05] line.
[2:11:07] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[2:11:10] so very much.
[2:11:15] We are now moving to agenda
[2:11:16] item number eight practices
[2:11:17] including consolidated land use
[2:11:20] cases.
[2:11:24] Before I move on, I want to see
[2:11:25] if anyone had anything that
[2:11:26] they wanted to pull her public
[2:11:29] hearings under agenda item
[2:11:30] number eight
[2:11:39] .
[2:11:43] If it is for purposes.
[2:11:48] I'm going to do public hearings
[2:11:49] .
[2:11:50] If it is for purposes of you
[2:11:51] wanting to vote something down,
[2:11:54] we can get to that.
[2:11:55] But I see that you are in the
[2:11:56] queue so what did you have,
[2:11:56] supervisor stewart?
[2:12:02] >> George Stewart: for item 8f
[2:12:03] wanted to make clear it is
[2:12:04] going to be the proper
[2:12:08] statement dated 1/SEPTEMBER and
[2:12:10] a copy has been provided to
[2:12:21] everyone here on the dais and I
[2:12:22] ask the applicant include two
[2:12:23] proffers as it relates to
[2:12:24] landscaping that is on the
[2:12:24] second and third page proffer
[2:12:28] three a and b. Three a is the
[2:12:29] applicant will coordinate for
[2:12:31] supplemental plantings within
[2:12:32] the buffer of the adjacent
[2:12:35] school property.
[2:12:36] Coordination will be with the
[2:12:38] county arborist prior to the
[2:12:39] final site plan approval.
[2:12:45] And
[2:12:46] three become the applicant
[2:12:47] committed to included plant
[2:12:48] species identified through
[2:12:48] hollow ground living legacy
[2:12:52] treeplanting as permitted by
[2:12:53] the county and the buffers
[2:12:54] along arpin road and john
[2:12:59] marshall highway
[2:12:59] .
[2:13:00] I also wanted to make it clear
[2:13:01] the county would not be
[2:13:03] responsible to fulfill any of
[2:13:08] the proffer obligations
[2:13:08] .
[2:13:09] >> Andrea Bailey: I would like
[2:13:15] to pull item 8n.
[2:13:16] >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm
[2:13:17] going to do is I'm going to go
[2:13:18] ahead and open the public
[2:13:18] hearing for item eight a
[2:13:22] through 8m.
[2:13:24] And we had a gentlemen who was
[2:13:27] speaking earlier and he said he
[2:13:28] could come back to the
[2:13:35] microphone.
[2:13:36] I believe it is MR. Chris
[2:13:37] brown.
[2:13:41] i will let you go first MR.
[2:13:41] Chris brown.
[2:13:47] I have melody miller that you
[2:13:48] would like to speak on three of
[2:13:52] the items
[2:13:52] .
[2:13:57] You can go to the back.
[2:13:57] It is arpin.
[2:14:01] There you go pick start with
[2:14:02] saying your name and where you
[2:14:08] reside.
[2:14:09] >> this is take two.
[2:14:10] Chris brown, gainesville
[2:14:15] district.
[2:14:17] I am opposed to this truck
[2:14:23] terminal for several reasons.
[2:14:24] The first of which the traffic
[2:14:25] it will bring to my
[2:14:27] neighborhood.
[2:14:28] Weirded the congestion caused
[2:14:29] by the data construction across
[2:14:35] the street to get this is
[2:14:36] approved we would have a more
[2:14:36] more traffic.
[2:14:37] Once the project is finished we
[2:14:38] would have to contend with the
[2:14:39] truck traffic caused by this
[2:14:42] warehouse back across the
[2:14:43] street they have refused to
[2:14:45] honor the proffers they
[2:14:46] promised five years ago
[2:14:46] including a traffic light
[2:14:46] ,
[2:14:52] turning lane
[2:14:52] , sidewalks and
[2:14:53] landscaping.
[2:14:53] Because the county failed to
[2:14:55] enforce these proffers, it's
[2:14:58] unconscionable for the county
[2:15:01] to consider adding more traffic
[2:15:02] to an already congested area
[2:15:08] with this warehouse project.
[2:15:09] In addition there is a loss of
[2:15:10] 23 green forested acres in the
[2:15:11] ecosystem that exists for the
[2:15:12] developers along with the
[2:15:13] planning commission and
[2:15:14] possibly the board of
[2:15:18] supervisors seemed determined
[2:15:22] .
[2:15:23] and developers should choose a
[2:15:24] vacant industrial site in the
[2:15:29] county for the project
[2:15:29] .
[2:15:30] We would not have to rely on
[2:15:31] ugly wind and solar farms to
[2:15:41] fight climate change directly
[2:15:43] across from the site years ago
[2:15:49] we lost 103 acres of forest to
[2:15:50] what is now the hyper school
[2:15:53] datacenter in virginia
[2:15:53] .
[2:15:54] This 103 acres generate enough
[2:15:57] heat on a summer day to fry an
[2:15:59] egg.
[2:15:59] There's no truth the site must
[2:16:03] be developed with something
[2:16:11] that is the least worse
[2:16:12] alternative in these 23 acres
[2:16:13] are best left in haiti.
[2:16:14] Please do the right thing and
[2:16:14] vote against this project.
[2:16:15] Thank you.
[2:16:16] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[2:16:19] so very much.
[2:16:20] Melody, I know that you want
[2:16:21] three things to speak on.
[2:16:24] Will give you your three
[2:16:24] minutes for 8/81.
[2:16:25] Although we know who you are,
[2:16:29] state your name pick
[2:16:32] >> and I actually ask because
[2:16:35] they are both on vacating trees
[2:16:36] picket is a general statement
[2:16:41] on the effect of the.
[2:16:41] Can you combine those two?
[2:16:42] Am trying to make this short
[2:16:42] .
[2:16:49] >> Chair Deshundra: I thought
[2:16:49] it would be cleaner to give you
[2:16:50] discrete, but you can take for
[2:16:51] the three items you have you
[2:16:54] can take you nine minutes.
[2:16:55] Spoke I wanted to speak on a,
[2:17:03] becoming g: f, k. It sexually
[2:17:06] e, f and g.
[2:17:07] >> Chair Deshundra: you want to
[2:17:07] do five items?
[2:17:08] Seven.
[2:17:12] >> can we combine them?
[2:17:13] >> Chair Deshundra: hold on
[2:17:15] .
[2:17:20] I will combine everything
[2:17:20] .
[2:17:24] That will be up to 21 minutes.
[2:17:38] >> I will be quicker.
[2:17:44] >> thank you melody.
[2:17:45] >> my name is melody miller
[2:17:47] from neabsco.
[2:17:49] The first time is a and the
[2:17:52] which is the tree vacation.
[2:17:59] The high level that means
[2:18:00] actions but the devitis
[2:18:01] represent a fundamental
[2:18:02] question about whether we honor
[2:18:06] the commitments the public
[2:18:06] sacrifice them.
[2:18:07] Let me remind everybody the
[2:18:08] land we are talking about was
[2:18:09] supposed to be a proffer
[2:18:10] agreement for the linear park.
[2:18:14] That dedication stated it was
[2:18:15] the intent that existing
[2:18:18] non-native invasive vegetation
[2:18:22] will remain undisturbed in any
[2:18:23] construction would minimize the
[2:18:24] amount of impact of the tca and
[2:18:26] avoid removal the maximum
[2:18:27] amount visible.
[2:18:30] .
[2:18:31] Malan is dedicated for uses
[2:18:33] open space conservation and are
[2:18:34] passive recreation is only.
[2:18:38] That was the deal to protect
[2:18:39] trees in exchange for the
[2:18:44] development we are not honoring
[2:18:45] proffers and that we are being
[2:18:46] asked to vacate that her
[2:18:47] protected tree conservation
[2:18:52] area to serve private, not
[2:18:53] public utilities for the
[2:18:54] infrastructure datacenter this
[2:18:56] developer is been different a
[2:18:57] couple of times supervisor
[2:19:04] gordy noted it requested time
[2:19:05] to address community feedback.
[2:19:05] He project is over dependably
[2:19:10] while they work to address
[2:19:11] concerns but we are not seeing
[2:19:11] options that don't result in
[2:19:12] the developers financial
[2:19:16] interest in the loss of tree
[2:19:17] canopy to the citizens of the
[2:19:18] impact of the watershed is not
[2:19:21] in the county interest
[2:19:21] .
[2:19:25] All possibilities should be
[2:19:26] explored before we vacate the
[2:19:29] conservation area pick I'm not
[2:19:34] a post-it development.
[2:19:35] Am opposed to using public
[2:19:36] assets without adequate
[2:19:36] mitigation.
[2:19:40] Staff reports report that no
[2:19:41] cost to be incurred beyond
[2:19:42] staff time to execute the deed,
[2:19:44] but lack accounting direct
[2:19:46] expenditures does not mean a
[2:19:47] lack of public cost.
[2:19:48] Those two things are not the
[2:19:51] same.
[2:19:52] The cost there is significant.
[2:19:54] The armor moving tree canopy on
[2:20:06] public parkland.
[2:20:07] Over 72% are impaired.
[2:20:10] Of the 93 assessed waterways 68
[2:20:11] of them fail state standards
[2:20:14] .
[2:20:14] Stream flows or monitoring
[2:20:18] sites
[2:20:22] , as if quantico was 31%
[2:20:22] and salinity levels are
[2:20:26] steadily rising and so every
[2:20:27] tree we remove makes that
[2:20:30] worse.
[2:20:31] They trap pollutants and they
[2:20:33] slow runoff for the first thing
[2:20:35] I would ask is I would say
[2:20:38] explore the alternative routing
[2:20:39] that avoids negating it
[2:20:45] entirely the proffer requires
[2:20:46] them and remove avoidable
[2:20:47] maximum but we have not
[2:20:49] exhausted all the alternatives
[2:20:49] pick I would ask the board
[2:20:50] condition the approval on 2 to
[2:20:55] 3 times the tree canopy to
[2:20:56] compensate for what is removed
[2:20:59] if you decide to approve this
[2:21:00] for 2 to 1 ratio is reasonable
[2:21:04] but the us forestry service in
[2:21:10] most urban arborists will savor
[2:21:11] every 40 foot canopy tree you
[2:21:15] need 260 92 inch caliber trees
[2:21:19] to get the same effect pick 2
[2:21:23] to 1 is reasonable at that
[2:21:24] level because he will not get
[2:21:25] the same effect but you would
[2:21:27] make a good-faith effort sort
[2:21:33] of becoming a bigger tree
[2:21:33] replacement ratio it
[2:21:37] acknowledges that picket think
[2:21:38] it is important that we insist
[2:21:39] much more firmly replacement
[2:21:45] trees and not just the actual
[2:21:48] physical count.
[2:21:53] When damaging the watershed
[2:21:53] .
[2:21:54] I would urge the board to do a
[2:21:57] deeper exploration viable
[2:21:58] alternatives and if not
[2:21:59] impossible the adoption of the
[2:22:01] minimum of 2/1 replacement
[2:22:05] ratio.
[2:22:05] The county is not going hasn't
[2:22:10] done in county but I would like
[2:22:11] to remind the board that growth
[2:22:12] for the sake of growth is the
[2:22:14] ideology of the cancer cell
[2:22:15] think you guys.
[2:22:19] That was my a and b
[2:22:20] .
[2:22:20] If we can move to e, f and g
[2:22:24] which is the pro-lodges
[2:22:24] .
[2:22:26] I'm trying my best to go fast
[2:22:27] .
[2:22:32] Understand the appeal pick we
[2:22:34] had a lot of talk about the
[2:22:38] density and so we had the
[2:22:39] ground a lot of decisions in a
[2:22:40] reality that exist pick
[2:22:44] reclassifying 24 acres to
[2:22:45] accommodate heavy logistics
[2:22:49] facility is in my opinion a
[2:22:52] profound planning mistake in of
[2:22:53] violations of the county
[2:22:58] environment plan which the
[2:22:58] county staff explicitly
[2:22:59] confirmed in their report.
[2:23:04] Through the requests explicitly
[2:23:08] and profoundly violate not one,
[2:23:08] not two but eight of the
[2:23:11] categories addressed
[2:23:16] .
[2:23:17] Undermine the hot policies of
[2:23:20] forestry source as well as our
[2:23:21] actions on tree preservation
[2:23:22] stormwater management of stream
[2:23:22] restoration
[2:23:39] .
[2:23:40] If this is approved the board
[2:23:40] would be responsible for
[2:23:41] greenlight incoming
[2:23:42] irreversible ecological damage
[2:23:44] to the bull run watershed.
[2:23:52] The applicant plans on 100%
[2:23:52] clearcutting.
[2:23:53] Removing all four identified
[2:23:57] specimen trees and destroying
[2:23:58] the critical habitat for the
[2:23:59] tricolored and northern long
[2:24:00] eared bat pick one of which is
[2:24:01] endangered and one is on the
[2:24:01] list.
[2:24:03] It will remove the
[2:24:06] currently functional water
[2:24:07] reclamation and filtration
[2:24:09] resource pick there are no
[2:24:13] replacement measures that come
[2:24:13] close.
[2:24:17] The project would eliminate 1.3
[2:24:18] acres of mapped wetlands with
[2:24:20] 2200 linear feet from a
[2:24:31] hydrological -- sonata
[2:24:32] hydrologist but add water
[2:24:33] wetlands and streams regulate
[2:24:34] streamflow come in they trump
[2:24:34] sediments and transform
[2:24:35] nutrients such as nitrogen and
[2:24:36] phosphorus replacing natural
[2:24:44] buffers with 15.6., 16 acres
[2:24:45] and shift the entire essay from
[2:24:45] a high of the ideological
[2:24:46] sponge into an accelerated
[2:24:50] runoff generator.
[2:24:50] Pavement doesn't absorb water
[2:24:51] and it doesn't absorb
[2:24:52] pollutants which you will get
[2:24:56] from logistics think we are
[2:24:57] going to lose 24 acres and we
[2:25:00] would replace it with 15 acres
[2:25:06] of asphalt and roofing.
[2:25:07] This contradicts our energy and
[2:25:08] sustainability master plan.
[2:25:09] Stormwater chambers can't
[2:25:14] replicate think they can't
[2:25:15] replicate sequestration and
[2:25:16] they do not provide groundwater
[2:25:17] recharge provided by the
[2:25:23] current natural forested
[2:25:23] wetlands.
[2:25:24] They can clean the water which
[2:25:25] leads to an increase in water
[2:25:26] treatment cost that they can't
[2:25:27] replenish existing ecological
[2:25:32] systems for vacant clean the
[2:25:33] particulates the site would
[2:25:36] generate and so the citizens
[2:25:37] are going to suffer a market
[2:25:42] degradation in air quality.
[2:25:43] Also we are going to shift the
[2:25:45] long-term environment accosts
[2:25:46] from a private developer done
[2:25:47] at the prince william county
[2:25:53] taxpayers the property contains
[2:25:54] soils classify was severe
[2:25:57] irritability stripping soils
[2:25:57] heightens the risk of
[2:26:00] downstream sediment patient
[2:26:01] which threatens the occoquan
[2:26:03] reservoir we taxpayers will
[2:26:07] absorb flood mitigation which
[2:26:08] the developer is going to offer
[2:26:12] you 1700 bucks in water
[2:26:13] quality.
[2:26:17] I don't know if you know this
[2:26:17] ,
[2:26:18] but the operational current
[2:26:23] cost runs $10-$35,000 a linear
[2:26:30] foot and so I am not sure where
[2:26:31] except that's what it will cost
[2:26:35] for them to print the invoice.
[2:26:36] Again, prince william county
[2:26:42] router rights are impaired on
[2:26:43] the salinity levels on the
[2:26:47] reservoir is steadily rising.
[2:26:48] Every single tree we take out
[2:26:53] just makes this worse.
[2:26:54] if you get away from the
[2:26:55] environment you will go and
[2:27:02] introduce heavy freight traffic
[2:27:03] right next to the two schools
[2:27:03] over there and so you're going
[2:27:04] to put safety hazards and
[2:27:05] diesel admissions under great
[2:27:07] air quality wiki would create
[2:27:08] traffic hazards between every
[2:27:20] freight haulers in school bus
[2:27:21] routing because that is not
[2:27:21] rated for that.
[2:27:22] New morning arrival and
[2:27:23] afternoon dismissal periods you
[2:27:24] will sanction clearcutting the
[2:27:25] trees that would clean all of
[2:27:26] that so the kids would be
[2:27:26] breathing it on fire station
[2:27:27] for this there in gainesville
[2:27:31] at max capacity
[2:27:31] .
[2:27:32] I don't know if you know this
[2:27:33] but heavy truck incidents
[2:27:36] require specialized skills and
[2:27:36] first responders and it takes a
[2:27:39] little bit longer to train them
[2:27:44] in some proffers are not even
[2:27:45] touching the true cost of what
[2:27:50] that looks like a. That's going
[2:27:51] to be shifted entirely to the
[2:27:55] taxpayers and citizens pick we
[2:27:56] don't have to choose between a
[2:27:57] vacant lot and heavy industrial
[2:27:59] destruction.
[2:28:00] Under the designations of land
[2:28:01] is intended to serve as a
[2:28:05] transition between iron density
[2:28:06] uses and environmental
[2:28:08] resources.
[2:28:10] Have lower impact alternatives
[2:28:16] that do not require rezoning
[2:28:17] this pic I'm not in favor of
[2:28:18] clearcutting at all, but there
[2:28:19] are other alternatives let it
[2:28:21] integrate that aquatic
[2:28:25] resources and open space that
[2:28:26] would be far better for the
[2:28:30] county residents here.
[2:28:31] What I would ask the board to
[2:28:32] do in these particular items
[2:28:36] it's offered the incentives
[2:28:36] directing heavy logistics
[2:28:38] facility to pre-existing
[2:28:39] degraded invest industrial
[2:28:43] sites would encourage the
[2:28:50] development which we could use
[2:28:51] without stripping the
[2:28:55] environmental resources that we
[2:28:55] need to.
[2:28:56] We need to build the climate
[2:29:01] resilience.
[2:29:02] If you want to be
[2:29:03] environmentally terrified look
[2:29:07] up the effects of a super ni?O
[2:29:07] pic but I do urge you to uphold
[2:29:08] the integrity of prince william
[2:29:10] county and deny these requests
[2:29:11] or offer significant
[2:29:15] alternatives
[2:29:15] .
[2:29:16] Thank you for your time on that
[2:29:19] one
[2:29:19] .
[2:29:20] Could you set the timer to six
[2:29:22] and I will do the last one.
[2:29:35] Rather than stop in the middle.
[2:29:41] My name is melody miller picked
[2:29:42] this one is about 8j and k
[2:29:42] which is the rezoning
[2:29:44] .
[2:29:47] This is the data center campus
[2:29:51] .
[2:29:53] When you are reading this you
[2:29:53] know I speak against data
[2:29:54] centers this represents a
[2:29:57] critical failure and it
[2:30:01] violates the spirit and the
[2:30:01] letter of our energy and
[2:30:03] sustainability master plan.
[2:30:04] We are being asked to sacrifice
[2:30:08] stability for short-term pic I
[2:30:11] want to focus on the two major
[2:30:14] areas for the project fills our
[2:30:17] community pick the first is the
[2:30:18] burden and the second is the
[2:30:20] irreversible destruction this
[2:30:24] will engender.
[2:30:29] 200 mw facility demands 1.7 5
[2:30:33] million mwh annually
[2:30:33] .
[2:30:34] original grid operator has
[2:30:36] already issued warnings about
[2:30:43] capacity shortage in strain and
[2:30:44] the regulatory commission is
[2:30:45] owed them to overhaul its rules
[2:30:49] of massive large load customers
[2:30:50] must secure their own power
[2:30:50] supply or fund dedicated
[2:30:51] generation before connecting to
[2:30:52] the grid
[2:30:52] .
[2:30:55] Those rules have not changed
[2:30:56] yet and would not apply to this
[2:30:57] development.
[2:31:03] Those guys and this person is
[2:31:04] proposing to add a massive
[2:31:09] unrelenting to the systems and
[2:31:10] so this also contradicts
[2:31:15] strategy one which sets a
[2:31:16] transition to 92% clean energy
[2:31:17] and 50% reduction in greenhouse
[2:31:17] gases by 23.
[2:31:22] You cannot approve facility of
[2:31:23] the scale powered by fossil
[2:31:24] fuel relying grid energy and
[2:31:24] diesel generators and still
[2:31:29] claim you are working toward
[2:31:30] our stated climate goals pic
[2:31:31] and neutralizes the county
[2:31:37] mitigation efforts the massive
[2:31:38] transmission upgrades: cost.
[2:31:39] As I stated earlier, the
[2:31:45] citizens should not be forced
[2:31:46] to fund this when it is a
[2:31:47] private developer and the
[2:31:47] prophets are there.
[2:31:48] In the
[2:31:52] immortal words of billy MAY
[2:31:53] speak equally devastating to us
[2:31:56] is the destruction of our local
[2:31:57] environment.
[2:32:00] Talked about watershed and air
[2:32:01] quality a lot.
[2:32:03] The applicant's request the
[2:32:04] mandatory 50 foot environmental
[2:32:09] buffers to a mere 10 feet pick
[2:32:10] the biggest offer was 30 feet
[2:32:11] is absolutely unacceptable
[2:32:11] able.
[2:32:14] It destroys tree canopy
[2:32:15] .
[2:32:17] Asphalt doesn't absorb water
[2:32:21] .
[2:32:22] Replacing forests with
[2:32:24] impervious concrete surface is
[2:32:32] going to guarantee degradation.
[2:32:33] It $75 per acre
[2:32:39] .
[2:32:40] Real life, we are talking 10 to
[2:32:41] 25,000 is the area's cost per
[2:32:43] linear foot
[2:32:48] .
[2:32:49] The total profit of $3700 total
[2:32:55] cost to be 1.5 to $2 million.
[2:32:56] We are not going to be able to
[2:32:58] get them to cover the pollution
[2:32:59] and degradation to local
[2:33:03] streams and their own plans
[2:33:04] flooding and water should
[2:33:07] compromise with the biggest
[2:33:08] threat to prince william county
[2:33:12] environment.
[2:33:13] We will not be able to handle
[2:33:19] that with 3500 bucks.
[2:33:20] In addition this would bring a
[2:33:21] severe threat to the air
[2:33:21] quality.
[2:33:26] A campus of the size
[2:33:27] , everybody
[2:33:28] is well-educated it requires
[2:33:29] dozens of massive diesel backup
[2:33:31] generators.
[2:33:32] The biweekly testing and
[2:33:32] emergency operation of the
[2:33:34] generators is going to pump
[2:33:36] particulate matter, green
[2:33:38] gases, greenhouse gases into
[2:33:39] the communities there.
[2:33:44] Residents living nearby,
[2:33:45] correct me if I'm totally off
[2:33:46] on that one.
[2:33:48] They would be subjected
[2:33:51] .
[2:33:52] They have been subjected to
[2:33:58] localized low-frequency noise
[2:33:58] .
[2:33:59] I think it is somewhere between
[2:34:01] 65 and 85 db on a continual
[2:34:01] basis
[2:34:01] .
[2:34:02] there has been plenty of solid
[2:34:06] research coming out the noise
[2:34:06] levels produce because
[2:34:12] residents damage.
[2:34:13] There needs to be a stronger
[2:34:14] consideration of resident
[2:34:21] impact and it needs to be
[2:34:22] guarantee nearby residents
[2:34:23] would have medications if this
[2:34:23] is approved.
[2:34:28] In conclusion on this one,
[2:34:29] inadequate sustainability and
[2:34:30] demands maximum
[2:34:31] concessions:community.
[2:34:36] It squanders designated land on
[2:34:37] low implement facility that
[2:34:38] destroys our buffers and
[2:34:38] pollutes air and water.
[2:34:39] I don't think it's worth it and
[2:34:43] I rejected reject these items
[2:34:44] and deny the rezoning
[2:34:45] .
[2:34:50] That is the end and the last
[2:35:06] one is l.
[2:35:07] >> Chair Deshundra: we reset
[2:35:08] your time.
[2:35:09] >> I used 10 minutes and then
[2:35:09] six minutes so I still have
[2:35:10] three minutes pic I wanted to
[2:35:11] put the time together for the
[2:35:11] group to one's.
[2:35:13] >> Chair Deshundra: next time
[2:35:13] we will not clear.
[2:35:14] We will give you the last three
[2:35:14] minutes
[2:35:17] .
[2:35:18] >> I wanted to separate them.
[2:35:25] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go.
[2:35:26] >> melody miller.
[2:35:26] Gain, I
[2:35:30] appreciate your forbearance
[2:35:32] .
[2:35:36] The data in the staff reports
[2:35:36] ,
[2:35:40] there are really big flaws
[2:35:42] .
[2:35:43] They get the environmental
[2:35:47] impact of a giant red f. To
[2:35:51] squeeze 24 high density
[2:35:52] townhomes this project will
[2:35:57] destroy existing forced wetland
[2:35:58] this violates the environmental
[2:36:02] policy the 2400 conference and
[2:36:03] plan which mandates preserving
[2:36:07] natural wetlands over off-site
[2:36:13] developer mitigation.
[2:36:14] What I want to focus on is the
[2:36:15] true cost all heavily on the
[2:36:16] residence across multiple
[2:36:17] areas.
[2:36:21] .
[2:36:22] For financial cost the
[2:36:26] developer is offering $450 for
[2:36:30] water quality mitigation.
[2:36:35] Real-world municipal cost run
[2:36:37] tens of thousands of dollars
[2:36:40] per linear foot.
[2:36:41] This leaves taxpayers to fund
[2:36:42] the downstream restoration of
[2:36:42] the structure repairs
[2:36:49] .
[2:36:52] This unsupported with the
[2:36:58] contribution to public safety.
[2:36:59] When fire truck is $150,000 and
[2:37:00] can be well over $1 million so
[2:37:01] if that number doesn't have a
[2:37:04] couple of numbers on it, it's
[2:37:06] probably inadequate for the
[2:37:07] environment or cost is
[2:37:12] devastating.
[2:37:13] We are going to guarantee
[2:37:14] thermal pollution, we are going
[2:37:15] to guarantee increased
[2:37:28] stormwater runoff
[2:37:28] .
[2:37:29] We are going to guarantee heat
[2:37:30] island effect.
[2:37:30] He will destroy a natural
[2:37:31] carbon sink, which further
[2:37:32] degrades county shingles.
[2:37:37] 2030, 2030 build a heat island
[2:37:37] .
[2:37:38] Academy 53 seconds to expend on
[2:37:39] the wetlands, but this proposal
[2:37:40] violates multiple core policies
[2:37:45] about the environment and the
[2:37:46] 24 discount plan.
[2:37:46] Muslim going to close with
[2:37:53] opportunity and social costs
[2:37:53] .
[2:37:54] the county will forfeit build
[2:37:55] people ecologically intact land
[2:37:56] that imposes significant
[2:37:56] benefit to our county air
[2:37:59] quality watershed research were
[2:38:00] being offered 45 foot tall
[2:38:00] townhome clusters packed
[2:38:02] tightly with leaved environment
[2:38:05] buffer protections.
[2:38:05] They're going to degrade the
[2:38:10] quality of life for adjacent
[2:38:11] residents into irreversible
[2:38:12] permanent damage to the two
[2:38:13] things we were required to
[2:38:13] exist
[2:38:13] .
[2:38:21] Air and water.
[2:38:22] Please get creative on space
[2:38:23] use, uphold the 20 foot in
[2:38:24] principal income and protect
[2:38:24] taxpayers from externalized
[2:38:25] costs and vote number thank you
[2:38:28] so much.
[2:38:29] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[2:38:30] I believe we have another
[2:38:31] speaker who signed up in person
[2:38:33] becoming, signed up remote and
[2:38:34] wants to comment.
[2:38:37] You have three minutes for each
[2:38:44] topic of the public hearings
[2:38:44] .
[2:38:45] If you look up at the timer
[2:38:46] state your name and generally
[2:38:47] where you reside at the w
[2:38:51] remarks and that you MAY begin.
[2:38:52] >> I'm kathleen and I am a
[2:38:52] resident of the gainesville
[2:38:57] magisterial district.
[2:38:58] Like most citizens I'm
[2:38:59] concerned about what happens in
[2:39:02] my county.
[2:39:03] But I'm also extremely
[2:39:03] concerned about our country
[2:39:04] being competitive in the global
[2:39:08] ai race in the coming years ai
[2:39:09] will solve many of the most
[2:39:13] serious health
[2:39:13] , environmental,
[2:39:17] farming, food shortages, other
[2:39:18] challenges and outright
[2:39:20] problems that face our country.
[2:39:20] It would develop the new
[2:39:22] medicines and curious for the
[2:39:24] terrible diseases we lost loved
[2:39:28] ones to me while I do not
[2:39:29] support alden dissenters,
[2:39:31] especially those that don't
[2:39:32] shea borges national parks and
[2:39:37] homes
[2:39:37] .
[2:39:38] I strongly believe data centers
[2:39:39] are necessary and play in
[2:39:41] important role in ensuring
[2:39:42] these technical logical
[2:39:50] advances are achieved.
[2:39:51] Further, if the manassas tech
[2:39:52] center is approved it would
[2:39:53] create hundreds of high-paying
[2:39:54] construction jobs for two or
[2:39:57] three years
[2:39:57] .
[2:39:58] That the significant work for
[2:39:59] people who decide learning a
[2:40:00] trade is the right path for
[2:40:03] them rather than going to
[2:40:04] college and being saddled with
[2:40:08] tens of thousands, if not
[2:40:08] 100,000+ dollars of student
[2:40:14] loans to get a college degree.
[2:40:15] Those whom the data center
[2:40:16] employees directly are blessed
[2:40:18] with good stable jobs to
[2:40:19] contribute to our tax base in
[2:40:25] prince william county
[2:40:25] .
[2:40:26] I believe in the electrician
[2:40:27] can earn a salary of 100,000 or
[2:40:29] more
[2:40:30] , well above the average in
[2:40:33] the county.
[2:40:35] This project aligns with the
[2:40:37] county governance and plan.
[2:40:41] It's recommended for approval
[2:40:41] by the staff in its recently
[2:40:48] received a positive vote from
[2:40:49] the clint pant planning
[2:40:49] commission.
[2:40:49] As
[2:40:50] such, I encourage you to vote
[2:40:51] for approval.
[2:40:54] thank you.
[2:40:55] >> Chair Deshundra: to we do
[2:40:57] not have anyone else in person
[2:40:57] .
[2:40:58] I will turn it to you
[2:41:04] supervisor angry.
[2:41:21] >> our speaker is craig.
[2:41:22] >> I want to touch on how
[2:41:23] important the data center
[2:41:24] industry is to the principal
[2:41:29] and county regional economy to
[2:41:30] provide the infrastructure
[2:41:33] needed for the digital services
[2:41:37] residents and residents rely on
[2:41:47] every day.
[2:41:48] Response to community concerns
[2:41:52] and designed to reduce impacts
[2:42:16] on nearby properties.
[2:42:17] Needs to be a significant part
[2:42:18] of our future and projects like
[2:42:19] the manassas tech center show
[2:42:20] that I can happen in a way that
[2:42:21] balances economic benefits with
[2:42:22] community
[2:42:26] priorities.
[2:42:27] I support rezoning application.
[2:42:28] Thank you all for your time in
[2:42:36] the service to our community.
[2:42:37] Spoke to be of any other
[2:42:37] speakers?
[2:42:44] Spoke we do not.
[2:42:45] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[2:42:45] everyone.
[2:42:46] Will go ahead and
[2:42:47] close the public hearings for
[2:42:54] eight a through for eight ms a
[2:42:54] mary berg I did not do the
[2:42:55] public hearing because
[2:42:56] supervisor billy wanted to
[2:42:56] defer that item but before we
[2:42:59] go on to everything else
[2:42:59] .
[2:43:06] I'm sorry.
[2:43:07] >> Andrea Bailey: I just want
[2:43:10] to give comments
[2:43:11] .
[2:43:12] >> Chair Deshundra: I will open
[2:43:12] the public hearing for that
[2:43:18] item.
[2:43:19] This book I would like to open
[2:43:19] the public hearing.
[2:43:19] Is there anyone who
[2:43:20] wants to
[2:43:30] speak?
[2:43:31] Open the public hearing.
[2:43:31] Is there anyone?
[2:43:32] We will close the public
[2:43:32] hearing
[2:43:38] .
[2:43:39] They should be contained in the
[2:43:50] motion.
[2:43:51] If they comments they should be
[2:43:57] contained in the motion.
[2:43:57] I'm not going to vote on
[2:44:00] everything on this
[2:44:01] .
[2:44:02] I'm going to pull it off
[2:44:12] separately.
[2:44:13] Does anyone have anything of
[2:44:13] questions on?
[2:44:14] Not comments but questions are
[2:44:15] something you MAY abstain or
[2:44:15] want to vote against?
[2:44:17] If not I will ask for a motion
[2:44:27] for eight a through m.
[2:44:28] Supervisor stuart, did you have
[2:44:28] anything.
[2:44:29] >> George Stewart: I wanted to
[2:44:34] pull off 8j and k.
[2:44:35] >> Chair Deshundra: anyone
[2:44:37] else?
[2:44:37] I'm sorry.
[2:44:40] MADAM County attorney?
[2:44:42] >> I want to make clear that on
[2:44:48] 8f and g it includes the
[2:44:49] proffers dated 9/1 a supervisor
[2:44:56] stuart mentioned before
[2:44:56] .
[2:44:57] >> Chair Deshundra: I would
[2:44:58] like to get a motion for eight
[2:45:08] a through I, 8l through m.
[2:45:09] >> so moved in with the
[2:45:13] proffers dated as said by the
[2:45:13] county attorney.
[2:45:14] >> Chair Deshundra: is there a
[2:45:16] second?
[2:45:18] Your comments
[2:45:18] .
[2:45:20] Are you going to get in there
[2:45:21] or stare at me
[2:45:30] ?
[2:45:30] It has been a long afternoon.
[2:45:33] Any discussion on those items?
[2:45:38] If not let's go ahead and vote
[2:45:46] on those items.
[2:45:49] >> vote unanimous.
[2:45:57] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[2:45:58] We are going to go to 8j and k.
[2:46:01] Do you want to separate that
[2:46:08] out?
[2:46:08] >> I want to make a motion to
[2:46:09] deny
[2:46:11] .
[2:46:19] Motion that we deny rezoning
[2:46:29] 2025 item 8j and 2025 32 and
[2:46:33] rezoning 2026 22
[2:46:40] .
[2:46:41] >> Chair Deshundra: is there a
[2:46:44] second?
[2:46:45] Does not seem there is a second
[2:46:47] so that fails
[2:46:47] .
[2:46:48] Would you like to make a motion
[2:46:52] to move this forward?
[2:46:53] >> I move that we approve item
[2:47:06] j and k MADAM Chair this is a
[2:47:07] buy write data center.
[2:47:11] It is going to get built what
[2:47:16] this is doing is aligning which
[2:47:17] are different of one single
[2:47:19] zoning
[2:47:23] .
[2:47:27] In the same time we are getting
[2:47:28] buffers against the apartments
[2:47:28] that help protect the
[2:47:32] residential community
[2:47:32] .
[2:47:33] I would point out much of the
[2:47:37] land cleared.
[2:47:38] There is already some stations
[2:47:42] being built on the site that
[2:47:47] they will plug into this is a
[2:47:47] buy write data center.
[2:47:49] It's not a matter of voting for
[2:47:51] or against a data center
[2:47:52] .
[2:47:56] It is aligning the different
[2:47:57] zonings of the land so they are
[2:47:58] all one zoning in the
[2:48:02] development.
[2:48:03] is the intent is to kill a data
[2:48:06] center, this is not what is
[2:48:09] happening pickets by right
[2:48:11] getting built pick this is just
[2:48:16] a matter of a technical change
[2:48:17] to align it to a single thing
[2:48:19] and so for that simple reason I
[2:48:27] will be supporting
[2:48:27] .
[2:48:28] >> I wanted to reinforce what
[2:48:29] he said and I appreciate
[2:48:31] supervisor stuart your thought
[2:48:32] and spirit behind it but this
[2:48:36] is in the overly and if we
[2:48:37] don't approve it they could
[2:48:39] build the data's centers) So
[2:48:46] folks have concerns about the
[2:48:47] residential impact, they could
[2:48:48] build the data centers close to
[2:48:49] the existing residential and so
[2:48:51] that is one
[2:48:51] .
[2:48:52] I had a good discussion of the
[2:48:57] applicant.
[2:48:57] This is one of the first to
[2:48:58] utilize the high energy his
[2:49:03] facility so that should be
[2:49:04] highlighted in another reason
[2:49:05] we should be supporting this
[2:49:11] pickle wanted to highlight that
[2:49:11] .
[2:49:12] They also took some of the
[2:49:13] recommendations around proffers
[2:49:17] and green infrastructure
[2:49:17] .
[2:49:18] Again, would not be done by a
[2:49:21] buy write development pickle
[2:49:22] sought a good conversation with
[2:49:23] them around power utilization
[2:49:31] efficiency
[2:49:31] .
[2:49:32] Knowing they are doing as much
[2:49:33] as they can to make the
[2:49:34] datacenter as it will be built
[2:49:40] out as efficient as possible in
[2:49:41] understood scoring there'd be a
[2:49:42] substation that it will draw
[2:49:45] from and by the way it will not
[2:49:49] max out the substation pickle
[2:49:49] we are not dealing with the
[2:49:50] situation where we are going to
[2:49:52] make them in somewhere else
[2:49:53] .
[2:49:57] Again, understanding his
[2:49:57] concern around for the
[2:50:00] development of data centers not
[2:50:00] only in prince william county
[2:50:02] but that the commonwealth
[2:50:05] .
[2:50:05] This one goes a long way
[2:50:08] answering the concerns and
[2:50:09] another reason why I look
[2:50:15] forward to sunsetting the
[2:50:15] overlay and being able to eat
[2:50:18] be you said by right.
[2:50:23] Thank you MADAM Chair.
[2:50:24] >> I get the whole thing about
[2:50:25] the overlay district but moving
[2:50:28] something from someone's porch
[2:50:28] that their lawn doesn't make a
[2:50:29] difference.
[2:50:32] I think we do constituents
[2:50:33] dirty when we build data
[2:50:34] centers next to their homes
[2:50:35] .
[2:50:37] >> Chair Deshundra: going to
[2:50:39] pick up on that.
[2:50:40] We are not doing the
[2:50:45] constituents dirty.
[2:50:46] I'm not a fan of the industry
[2:50:49] but I go through the packets
[2:50:50] and I read and meet with the
[2:50:51] applicant and asked them
[2:50:53] questions we are not moving
[2:50:57] from the porch to their loan.
[2:50:58] That is the only reason why I
[2:50:59] would support this in this got
[2:51:01] a unanimous vote
[2:51:06] .
[2:51:06] Some of the people are
[2:51:11] passionate but the fact that I
[2:51:14] got a unanimous vote gives me a
[2:51:20] lot of confidence but it would
[2:51:20] literally be in their back
[2:51:21] yard.
[2:51:21] E are moving it from
[2:51:28] the porch and we have to do
[2:51:29] this because we don't want it
[2:51:30] right next to homes pick him
[2:51:35] going to break protocol.
[2:51:35] you are not going to present
[2:51:36] but I want you to bring up the
[2:51:38] slide because I want people to
[2:51:43] see what we are doing
[2:51:43] .
[2:51:44] I will have a little bit more
[2:51:45] say, but I want to give you the
[2:51:48] time to do that.
[2:51:48] You are just going to pull up
[2:51:52] the slide
[2:51:52] .
[2:51:53] What by right would look like
[2:51:57] versus if we approved at this
[2:51:58] project and I want the visual
[2:51:59] on the screen so everyone
[2:52:01] understands what we are doing
[2:52:01] .
[2:52:04] I don't want people to play to
[2:52:06] an audience
[2:52:06] .
[2:52:09] I don't want to stoke fear
[2:52:14] where no fear exists pick
[2:52:15] that's where I break protocol.
[2:52:17] I don't want people alarmed
[2:52:17] .
[2:52:18] I don't want people writing
[2:52:25] into us.
[2:52:26] I don't recall getting any
[2:52:29] concern for part of the reason
[2:52:34] is you see by right development
[2:52:37] , that is different zoning that
[2:52:38] would not allow for a
[2:52:41] datacenter to go on that that's
[2:52:48] where you're making the change
[2:52:48] in so they could move the
[2:52:50] datacenter a little further
[2:52:52] over
[2:52:52] .
[2:53:01] By right they can still build
[2:53:02] but I don't understand why
[2:53:03] anyone thinks the by rightist
[2:53:04] the proposed.
[2:53:08] I don't like data centers
[2:53:08] .
[2:53:09] I'm not a friend of the
[2:53:14] industry but I will be damned
[2:53:15] if I allow a project to move
[2:53:18] forward that could be worse
[2:53:20] than if we worked with the
[2:53:27] applicant got something better.
[2:53:28] >> Tom Gordy: when we are
[2:53:29] dealing with something by right
[2:53:30] we have the opportunity to make
[2:53:31] it better.
[2:53:32] We owe it to do what we can to
[2:53:39] make it better.
[2:53:40] We are going to vote on
[2:53:41] eliminating the opportunity for
[2:53:46] by right development not as
[2:53:47] something I've been working on.
[2:53:49] I voted to do that by the
[2:53:55] previous gainesville supervisor
[2:53:57] .
[2:53:58] We are trying to make for a
[2:54:01] better product
[2:54:01] .
[2:54:05] We owe it to our citizens this
[2:54:06] is in the middle of the horn
[2:54:09] baker industrial area.
[2:54:10] All of the land is already in
[2:54:12] the industrial area.
[2:54:13] This area was design a plan for
[2:54:15] industrial activities and it
[2:54:16] can be any number of things and
[2:54:20] there are things from an
[2:54:21] industrial perspective are a
[2:54:28] lot heavier and impactful from
[2:54:29] a transportation emissions in
[2:54:32] all sorts of things
[2:54:32] .
[2:54:33] If we can have a situation
[2:54:36] where we can make a better
[2:54:37] product to better protect
[2:54:41] citizens that something we will
[2:54:44] continue to support as long as
[2:54:45] the by right opportunities
[2:54:45] continues to exist.
[2:54:47] We work to
[2:54:53] try to identify and solve the
[2:54:56] issues to make the situations
[2:55:00] better
[2:55:00] .
[2:55:04] Again, I get where you are
[2:55:10] coming from but again, I have
[2:55:11] to fight for my citizens to try
[2:55:12] to improve the quality of life
[2:55:15] as long as the current
[2:55:18] ordinances are the way they are
[2:55:21] we are trying to fix that so
[2:55:27] the by right no longer exists.
[2:55:28] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[2:55:29] angry.
[2:55:29] >> Victor Angry: I normally
[2:55:33] don't chime in on these but
[2:55:34] that comment was a lot about
[2:55:39] from the porch to the yard to.
[2:55:40] I want to remind the board and
[2:55:45] remind the audience supervisor
[2:55:45] gordy said 2 to 3 months ago
[2:55:46] that we were going to have
[2:55:50] cases like this, for rent it's
[2:55:51] by right and we have an
[2:55:52] opportunity to make that
[2:55:55] product better picked this is
[2:55:55] that project.
[2:55:57] Maybe there is another one.
[2:55:59] I listen to you when you said
[2:56:01] it and I listened to the
[2:56:06] applicant as I came to this
[2:56:10] conclusion pick we have to get
[2:56:13] away from trying to stir up my
[2:56:13] group and get the folks in
[2:56:18] think this is doing wrong.
[2:56:19] This is far better and it
[2:56:20] would've been exactly what the
[2:56:23] by right development has.
[2:56:24] I appreciate the effort of what
[2:56:26] you have done.
[2:56:27] You did what you said and here
[2:56:31] it is
[2:56:31] .
[2:56:31] I am supporting this.
[2:56:34] Thanks a lot.
[2:56:35] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[2:56:37] vega
[2:56:37] .
[2:56:41] >> Yesli Vega: I want to vote.
[2:56:42] >> Chair Deshundra: can we
[2:57:04] please vote?
[2:57:09] >> motion passes 6/1 supervisor
[2:57:10] stuart voting no and supervisor
[2:57:15] bailey absent from vote.
[2:57:16] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[2:57:16] so much.
[2:57:21] We are now going to move to
[2:57:21] eight.
[2:57:22] Supervisor bailey, would you
[2:57:26] like to make the motion?
[2:57:30] >> MADAM Chair, I move we
[2:57:31] approve item 8n.
[2:57:35] >> Chair Deshundra: it has been
[2:57:35] moved and seconded.
[2:57:40] Any discussion?
[2:57:41] Let's go ahead and take our
[2:57:55] votes.
[2:58:08] 8n.
[2:58:10] >> let's start over.
[2:58:13] I thought it was good but eat n
[2:58:18] park is that on your screens
[2:58:23] now?
[2:58:24] How about now?
[2:58:28] Okay.
[2:58:29] No, but if the item
[2:58:30] .
[2:58:36] Okay.
[2:58:37] Supervisor bailey, second by
[2:58:42] supervisor boddye.
[2:58:42] Record.
[2:58:49] How about now
[2:58:53] .. Motion passes
[2:58:54] 7/1.
[2:59:00] Chair jefferson voting number
[2:59:00] .
[2:59:01] >> Chair Deshundra: we are now
[2:59:02] going to move to agenda item
[2:59:03] number nine in the discounting
[2:59:04] executive time.
[2:59:05] The floor is yours.
[2:59:10] >> first will come back.
[2:59:13] I have a few updates and I will
[2:59:15] jump right in.
[2:59:17] My office has worked to
[2:59:20] complete an audit of the board
[2:59:21] directive tracking records
[2:59:23] which identified 17 directives
[2:59:26] marked or closed after the
[2:59:32] requested work had been done
[2:59:33] but had not received a separate
[2:59:33] closure notice to provide
[2:59:35] transparent accounting.
[2:59:35] You received a memo identifying
[2:59:40] 17 directives, subjects, dates
[2:59:41] and actions taken on the basis
[2:59:46] for closure this included
[2:59:47] directives such as funding for
[2:59:48] additional noise testing, the
[2:59:49] adoption of an ordinance
[2:59:49] related to tax relief for
[2:59:50] elderly
[2:59:53] , the adoption of the
[2:59:57] ordinance regarding the three
[2:59:57] year dog licenses and other
[3:00:01] land-use matters
[3:00:01] .
[3:00:02] In addition to those directives
[3:00:07] , three other directives have
[3:00:14] been closed including review in
[3:00:15] the county current practices in
[3:00:16] authority related to angled
[3:00:20] parking and cul-de-sacs.
[3:00:21] And how the board could
[3:00:22] prohibit angled parking if it
[3:00:27] is to do so.
[3:00:28] You received an update on the
[3:00:29] expansion of the trap neuter
[3:00:30] vaccinate return program which
[3:00:31] we talked about today and they
[3:00:38] visibility study for deploying
[3:00:41] solar parking canopies at other
[3:00:44] publicly owned rooftops.
[3:00:49] Over the last month I sent
[3:00:50] several updates to the board
[3:00:51] this includes messages about
[3:00:54] the 2026 community survey that
[3:00:58] will launch this month with a
[3:01:00] mailing to randomly select also
[3:01:00] for all residents to
[3:01:04] participate beginning OCTOBER
[3:01:09] 12.
[3:01:09] As a county we have been doing
[3:01:12] this since 1993 so appreciate
[3:01:17] the tradition that has been
[3:01:17] established on the way in which
[3:01:18] we give feedback and use of
[3:01:20] that feedback for programs and
[3:01:21] services here in prince william
[3:01:24] county.
[3:01:25] He also received an update on
[3:01:27] panhandling signage.
[3:01:32] The update included timing and
[3:01:33] the placement of signs of the
[3:01:34] commitment of meeting with each
[3:01:37] board option office
[3:01:37] .
[3:01:38] You received an update on
[3:01:39] boards, committees, commissions
[3:01:44] or bcc in term details this
[3:01:45] work was requested and included
[3:01:49] a summary of the applicable
[3:01:50] term lengths as well as the
[3:01:57] completed audit reports and so
[3:01:58] I'm happy to answer any
[3:01:59] questions related to the audit
[3:02:02] and the report that followed.
[3:02:03] You received a consultant
[3:02:10] report for the planning update.
[3:02:11] The board asked for the update
[3:02:11] during the JULY work session
[3:02:12] with the planning office
[3:02:13] provided the board with an
[3:02:16] update on their workload
[3:02:17] .
[3:02:17] Specifically the board
[3:02:18] requested information regarding
[3:02:19] the level of spending on
[3:02:27] consultant services, which was
[3:02:28] provided to you for the current
[3:02:29] orders for professional
[3:02:30] assistance for the department
[3:02:30] projects and initiatives funded
[3:02:31] by the planning office's
[3:02:36] budget.
[3:02:36] The board said it earlier.
[3:02:37] I want to acknowledge chief
[3:02:38] matt.
[3:02:44] He, as you have said to, has
[3:02:45] been that the county since 1997
[3:02:46] and has made his way through
[3:02:50] the ranks in the fire and
[3:02:52] rescue service over the 49
[3:02:56] years ago want to take the
[3:02:57] opportunity not just a prince
[3:02:57] william county but our
[3:03:04] organization and to the
[3:03:05] generations of public servants
[3:03:05] he
[3:03:05] impacted.
[3:03:06] Thank you chief, thank you matt
[3:03:08] .
[3:03:09] Wanted to use the opportunity
[3:03:14] to thank him for his service.
[3:03:14] 49 years is absolutely
[3:03:15] remarkable and so thank you
[3:03:21] chief.
[3:03:22] I also want to recognize the
[3:03:23] department of economic
[3:03:26] development and tourism.
[3:03:27] Each of the international did
[3:03:33] abundant economic counsel does
[3:03:33] a survey of all the economic
[3:03:40] development organizations
[3:03:40] .
[3:03:41] In 2026 the economic
[3:03:46] development tourism team in
[3:03:47] prince william county was
[3:03:48] ranked number one received the
[3:03:49] economic development
[3:03:50] organization of the year for
[3:03:51] populations over 500,000.
[3:03:55] This is remarkable here because
[3:04:04] as the most populated county
[3:04:04] .
[3:04:05] Because it we are part of the
[3:04:06] most populated county category,
[3:04:07] we are competing against
[3:04:07] montr?Al
[3:04:11] , new orleans
[3:04:11] , detroit,
[3:04:16] phoenix, all of these big
[3:04:17] organizations and it really
[3:04:19] means the world and it really
[3:04:21] speaks to the board's
[3:04:22] commitment and the investment
[3:04:24] in the team and the team itself
[3:04:26] that they have done the work of
[3:04:32] being recognized
[3:04:32] .
[3:04:33] A big shout out to the economic
[3:04:34] development tourism team for
[3:04:36] the recognition.
[3:04:39] I also wanted to thank the
[3:04:40] board as we are closing out
[3:04:45] that year and opening up the
[3:04:47] current year that the board
[3:04:50] first invested in an increase
[3:04:52] in the communities program and
[3:04:57] really wanted to show the board
[3:04:58] the communications team
[3:04:59] interviewed a few of the
[3:05:00] community partners that have
[3:05:03] received awards as part of the
[3:05:12] fy 27 program wanted to take a
[3:05:12] pause and show the board a
[3:05:13] video of a few of the
[3:05:15] organizations and what the
[3:05:17] program means to the community.
[3:05:22] Please come and jump in.
[3:05:26] >> services, resources and
[3:05:27] support that make a meaningful
[3:05:29] difference in their lives pick
[3:05:29] prince william county community
[3:05:32] partner program I'm
[3:05:33] strengthened network the
[3:05:34] commercial ships with local
[3:05:37] nonprofit organizations
[3:05:37] .
[3:05:38] Teacher funding is awarded
[3:05:39] their competitive process with
[3:05:40] applications evaluated based on
[3:05:43] their alignment with the county
[3:05:43] strategic planning key
[3:05:47] performance indicators
[3:05:47] .
[3:05:48] In fiscal year 26 prince
[3:05:48] william county provided more
[3:05:52] than $570,000 to support 50
[3:05:55] nonprofit organizations this
[3:05:56] fiscal year the board of county
[3:05:58] supervisors increased that
[3:05:59] investment to one moment I'll
[3:06:01] discuss expanding support to 32
[3:06:07] organizations
[3:06:07] .
[3:06:08] Each organization brings its
[3:06:09] trusty relationships and
[3:06:10] understanding of the people it
[3:06:11] serves pick together the
[3:06:14] partnerships will extend the
[3:06:15] recent reaches services
[3:06:16] throughout prince william
[3:06:16] county and the impact of that
[3:06:18] partnership is best told by the
[3:06:21] organizations doing the work.
[3:06:22] 's become separate dental the
[3:06:22] founder and executive
[3:06:28] director.
[3:06:28] Here we provide a season
[3:06:29] wardrobe to local children in
[3:06:30] need that are experiencing
[3:06:36] clothing and security
[3:06:36] .
[3:06:37] Every box is everything a child
[3:06:38] needs to thrive in thank you
[3:06:42] from everyone here, we have had
[3:06:43] over 1000 volunteers walk
[3:06:48] through our front door in the
[3:06:49] past year and our friends
[3:06:50] through the community
[3:06:55] partnership program a been
[3:06:55] amazing standing alongside us
[3:06:56] and it allowed us to provide
[3:07:02] seasonal wardrobes to thin
[3:07:03] thousand local children helping
[3:07:04] us impact the lives of kids in
[3:07:06] prince william county.
[3:07:07] >> my name is shannon.
[3:07:08] Of the program director for
[3:07:09] pink space theory.
[3:07:14] Pink space there is a stem
[3:07:15] education program.
[3:07:16] We are operating afterschool
[3:07:19] programs
[3:07:19] .
[3:07:20] What we are trying to do is get
[3:07:23] kids excited about science,
[3:07:25] math, technology.
[3:07:28] >> last year we were able to
[3:07:31] hold our families night with
[3:07:36] which reached over 100 students
[3:07:36] quickly brought and county
[3:07:37] agencies as well as other local
[3:07:42] businesses and have a great
[3:07:43] night where they are learning
[3:07:44] how science affects their
[3:07:46] community
[3:07:46] .
[3:07:47] Through the community programs
[3:07:48] we are able to do with the
[3:07:56] funding, we are looking to
[3:07:57] connect students and families
[3:07:58] to local resources, career
[3:07:58] opportunities and hopefully
[3:08:00] connect them to future
[3:08:01] employers within their own
[3:08:08] community.
[3:08:09] >> a medicament executive
[3:08:10] director of rambo therapeutic
[3:08:11] riding center's rainbow serves
[3:08:12] individuals that have special
[3:08:15] needs or unique challenges that
[3:08:15] need additional support pick we
[3:08:16] work with students with mental
[3:08:21] health challenges, learning
[3:08:22] disabilities pick
[3:08:22] anyone who
[3:08:23] would not thrive in a
[3:08:23] traditional writing environment
[3:08:27] .
[3:08:28] We provide the services don't
[3:08:29] work on mental health, physical
[3:08:33] strength, anxiety and a myriad
[3:08:34] of other challenges and so this
[3:08:35] has been a real game changer
[3:08:37] for us
[3:08:37] .
[3:08:41] At 7% but it impacts 500
[3:08:44] students were 17 percent of our
[3:08:45] lessons.
[3:08:48] This allows us to not otherwise
[3:08:52] be able to access services
[3:08:52] .
[3:08:53] We subsidize 50% of our
[3:08:54] lessons.
[3:08:56] It was able to serve so many
[3:09:01] more people this is helping
[3:09:02] students the MAY not access the
[3:09:06] services anywhere else but with
[3:09:07] the help of the county we can
[3:09:11] provide that for them.
[3:09:11] >> they are three examples
[3:09:12] through the community partners
[3:09:14] program.
[3:09:15] Each of the 32 organization
[3:09:16] brings something different
[3:09:20] helping meet important needs
[3:09:20] and serve residents across the
[3:09:24] prince william county pick
[3:09:25] together the partnerships help
[3:09:32] make a lasting difference.
[3:09:33] >> a big thank you to the
[3:09:34] communications team does video
[3:09:37] will live on the website and we
[3:09:43] will continue to shout as loud
[3:09:46] as we can pick how many of the
[3:09:48] residents are being helped the
[3:09:52] partnerships and the programs
[3:09:52] and organizations being
[3:09:56] supported.
[3:09:57] Finally, I would like to remind
[3:09:58] everyone we are having our 9/11
[3:10:02] remembrance ceremony
[3:10:02] .
[3:10:08] This is the 20th anniversary
[3:10:09] and actually, the 25th
[3:10:09] anniversary for our ceremony
[3:10:15] .
[3:10:16] This is going to be a special
[3:10:22] ceremony we are bringing a
[3:10:26] number of families impacted and
[3:10:28] we are holding our event
[3:10:29] september 10 because many of
[3:10:34] the families participating in
[3:10:36] 9/11 ceremonies at the pentagon
[3:10:39] pick everyone is invited and we
[3:10:40] will have osborne park high
[3:10:45] school with this celebrating
[3:10:46] for that event and we
[3:10:51] appreciate the support and with
[3:10:53] that, that is all fort meade.
[3:10:57] >> thank you chris for the long
[3:10:59] but needed update pick even
[3:11:02] without it being AUGUST recess
[3:11:03] you and your staff have done a
[3:11:08] law so wanted to highlight that
[3:11:08] we went back on different
[3:11:09] requests for information
[3:11:12] .
[3:11:13] I wanted to thank you for
[3:11:19] helping me get straight on the
[3:11:20] different water studies we have
[3:11:23] going on
[3:11:24] .
[3:11:25] That is been a public and
[3:11:25] community concern and I don't
[3:11:27] think everyone realizes how
[3:11:29] much we have going on.
[3:11:31] I wanted to commend you and the
[3:11:35] team on the communities
[3:11:36] partners program.
[3:11:37] There's a lot of great partners
[3:11:39] doing great work
[3:11:39] .
[3:11:40] There are some things the
[3:11:44] community sometimes does better
[3:11:45] and if we are able to help
[3:11:46] empower them with resources it
[3:11:49] helps us to better too.
[3:11:50] Wanted to commend and highlight
[3:11:53] the planning department.
[3:11:56] Director washington, on the
[3:12:01] work that you are doing but we
[3:12:02] are responding to requests for
[3:12:03] information we have been
[3:12:05] fielding because it helps us
[3:12:08] get more transparency but
[3:12:09] helping the community
[3:12:13] understand just all that is
[3:12:14] going on in the great
[3:12:16] transformational things
[3:12:16] happening and so I wanted to
[3:12:18] say that
[3:12:21] .
[3:12:26] As we continue to audit look at
[3:12:27] directives and appreciate you
[3:12:31] going through that audit.
[3:12:32] There was a directive they gave
[3:12:33] about the transfer development
[3:12:35] rights program
[3:12:35] .
[3:12:38] I wanted to hear from you if
[3:12:43] you had an update on that.
[3:12:44] >> that directive I would
[3:12:49] divide into two parts.
[3:12:53] We have ongoing work marine
[3:12:55] corps quantico base that
[3:12:57] directive related and so the
[3:13:04] program and our pdr program we
[3:13:05] are providing ongoing
[3:13:07] communication and navigation
[3:13:08] .
[3:13:12] That said, the board acted
[3:13:14] JANUARY of this year to update
[3:13:20] the ordinance pick with it
[3:13:21] updated on an ongoing come of
[3:13:26] that work is ongoing pick I
[3:13:27] would say that part two is
[3:13:28] related to the comprehensive
[3:13:30] zoning ordinance and I would
[3:13:31] ask planning to provide an
[3:13:32] update on that part of the
[3:13:39] directive.
[3:13:40] >> tonya washington planning
[3:13:43] director pick with regards to
[3:13:49] that directive, as I shared
[3:13:49] when we are here in JULY to
[3:13:52] give an update on the zoning
[3:13:53] ordinance update
[3:13:53] , as part of
[3:13:56] our approach will be looking at
[3:14:02] the agriculture zones not in
[3:14:03] the first batch but the second
[3:14:06] batch and so we will be in
[3:14:07] breeding and taking a look into
[3:14:10] the pieces from the directives
[3:14:11] that relate to that as part of
[3:14:13] that effort.
[3:14:20] In addition, we are partnering
[3:14:21] in supporting the department of
[3:14:21] public works as they are
[3:14:24] working on a pdr program and
[3:14:26] seeing what pieces that we
[3:14:27] would need to support as well
[3:14:34] as the agri-tourism study.The
[3:14:35] department of economic
[3:14:35] development and tourism are
[3:14:39] working on now
[3:14:39] .
[3:14:40] There is a portion that relates
[3:14:41] to the agriculture and orcs
[3:14:45] overlay district and their
[3:14:46] consultants and our consultants
[3:14:49] had been in communications so
[3:14:50] they would be handed off.
[3:14:56] It is and we are looking
[3:14:57] forward to being able to focus
[3:14:59] on the
[3:15:03] .
[3:15:09] >> the transfer development
[3:15:18] rights program done to make it
[3:15:20] on enhancement for today and we
[3:15:21] will be appointing folks on the
[3:15:33] committee.
[3:15:34] And then supervisor give his
[3:15:36] directive on it last OCTOBER
[3:15:37] doing this interest in both
[3:15:39] programs
[3:15:41] .
[3:15:44] Knowing that all of us have
[3:15:45] places that could absorb the
[3:15:48] growth that needs to be done on
[3:15:49] so that is more what I was
[3:15:50] looking at
[3:15:56] .
[3:15:57] >> anyone else has anything for
[3:16:00] the county executive?
[3:16:04] When you are finished?
[3:16:07] >> if you could talk about the
[3:16:11] groundwater studies we talked
[3:16:11] about the presentation on the
[3:16:12] land-use
[3:16:18] .
[3:16:18] I sent an update to the board
[3:16:23] on the groundwater study
[3:16:24] connected to a directive from
[3:16:28] 2024
[3:16:28] .
[3:16:29] We are working with us
[3:16:33] geological survey
[3:16:33] .
[3:16:34] They provide a six-month and
[3:16:41] annual presentations
[3:16:41] .
[3:16:42] I am happy to have public
[3:16:43] works, but if there specific
[3:16:45] questions about it, but we are
[3:16:50] on our way in the partnership
[3:16:51] the work of the study is on
[3:16:54] track.
[3:16:59] Fall of 2028 we expect the
[3:17:02] final product.
[3:17:04] >> follower APRIL.
[3:17:07] >> I believe it is fall but we
[3:17:08] can follow up based on what we
[3:17:12] sent in the memo.
[3:17:13] >> Chair Deshundra: we are
[3:17:15] going to agenda item tendinitis
[3:17:17] county attorney time.
[3:17:22] The floor is yours.
[3:17:22] >> this afternoon in session we
[3:17:23] will have consultation with
[3:17:27] legal counsel and briefings by
[3:17:28] staff members regarding legal
[3:17:29] matters requiring the provision
[3:17:32] of legal advice by such counsel
[3:17:33] pertaining to energy regulatory
[3:17:33] lawn proceedings over the
[3:17:36] commission for such
[3:17:37] consultation discussion or
[3:17:39] improving an open meeting would
[3:17:40] affect the bargaining position
[3:17:44] in negotiating strategy
[3:17:44] litigating posture the public
[3:17:45] body in this item is
[3:17:48] appropriate for close session
[3:17:49] pursuant to do.2-37 1188 of the
[3:17:54] code of virginia
[3:17:54] .
[3:17:55] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go
[3:17:59] ahead and take our votes
[3:18:05] .
[3:18:11] >> vote unanimous.
[3:18:11] We are moving to agenda item
[3:18:12] 11.
[3:18:16] MR. Shorter?
[3:18:23] >> I got a text note from the
[3:18:24] team.
[3:18:25] You are correct, it is APRIL 28
[3:18:25] consistent with the memo sent
[3:18:27] out.
[3:18:34] Item 11 a for quantico memorial
[3:18:35] chapter and I will turn it to
[3:18:35] the office aplenty for the
[3:18:39] presentation.
[3:18:44] >> thank you
[3:18:44] .
[3:18:47] My name is eric
[3:18:47] .
[3:18:48] Bringing you today the
[3:18:51] initiation for consideration of
[3:18:54] a cpa 2025 002 quantico
[3:18:55] memorial chapel
[3:19:39] .
[3:19:45] Let's try this again.
[3:19:46] This is a request to amend the
[3:19:47] comprehensive plan long-range
[3:19:54] land-use of 4.23 acres of parks
[3:19:55] and open space to hamlet
[3:19:57] mixed-use.
[3:19:58] For the development of the
[3:19:59] funeral home and the site is
[3:20:00] chosen because it is a crossed
[3:20:03] the joplin road from quantico
[3:20:07] national cemetery.
[3:20:08] Staff recommends initiation of
[3:20:12] this cpa.
[3:20:16] If this project looks familiar
[3:20:18] it is because it is not a new
[3:20:19] project
[3:20:22] .
[3:20:23] We were before you in OCTOBER
[3:20:25] 2024 to initiate the smaller
[3:20:26] area for the same consideration
[3:20:28] .
[3:20:31] But two different land-use.
[3:20:31] So why are we back.
[3:20:38] The
[3:20:39] supervisor had several concerns
[3:20:44] about this being a little bit
[3:20:45] too upscale for this particular
[3:20:50] area.
[3:20:51] What is being proposed about
[3:20:53] the rezoning was office low
[3:21:01] rise.
[3:21:02] There are other possible
[3:21:07] considerations that would allow
[3:21:13] for a funeral home by right not
[3:21:18] an as intense and encourage the
[3:21:19] requester to look into the
[3:21:20] considerations on that is
[3:21:22] exactly what the requester did
[3:21:26] .
[3:21:27] The eventually settled on the
[3:21:30] b3 convenience retail district
[3:21:37] better fit for rural areas
[3:21:37] .
[3:21:38] In doing so, that district is
[3:21:43] not compatible vote was
[3:21:49] initiated and so they rethought
[3:21:50] , they are rethinking on the
[3:21:51] thought process to find a
[3:21:52] compatible land-use
[3:21:54] .
[3:21:56] They found his hamlet mixed-use
[3:21:59] and in many respects is a
[3:22:04] better fit back the other thing
[3:22:08] they did was they added land
[3:22:08] .
[3:22:09] During the review of the
[3:22:14] initial applications they were
[3:22:15] buffer management issues and we
[3:22:17] encourage them to expand the
[3:22:24] site to address those issues
[3:22:24] .
[3:22:25] They added some acreage and
[3:22:29] change
[3:22:29] .
[3:22:30] That is help with the buffer
[3:22:34] issues but it is those two
[3:22:35] considerations that require us
[3:22:38] to come back to you to
[3:22:42] reinitiate this cpa.
[3:22:43] Talking about the rezoning, the
[3:22:50] area are largely zone today
[3:22:52] .
[3:22:57] The proposed zoning with a
[3:23:00] retail.
[3:23:02] Again
[3:23:05] , most of the land use is
[3:23:06] parks and open space and that
[3:23:14] is largely because of the
[3:23:14] location of prince william
[3:23:15] forest park.
[3:23:16] We have a county registered
[3:23:19] historic site that the park
[3:23:22] required lattice to the east of
[3:23:22] the site
[3:23:28] .
[3:23:30] And discussing but park it is
[3:23:38] important understand the park
[3:23:43] was formed in 1948 the congress
[3:23:44] authorized the boundary as
[3:23:53] possible areas the park service
[3:23:54] has not been supportive of the
[3:23:59] project from beginning with
[3:23:59] concerns about the
[3:24:00] environmental impacts but the
[3:24:06] cost.
[3:24:12] Was it virginia senior by way
[3:24:13] it is been designated that as
[3:24:18] well.
[3:24:20] He submitted last week almonds
[3:24:23] regarding this objecting it for
[3:24:30] those reasons and also
[3:24:31] basically stay with the
[3:24:31] statement that they don't
[3:24:39] believe the land-use would
[3:24:40] serve the residents of the area
[3:24:43] land concerns about potential
[3:24:48] impacts that would have
[3:24:50] changing the nature of the area
[3:24:51] .
[3:24:58] As far as one thing to note
[3:24:58] .
[3:24:59] When thinking about how the
[3:25:02] proposed development will be
[3:25:06] compatible with the area, the
[3:25:08] national cemetery.
[3:25:12] That is a neighboring resource.
[3:25:14] That is one of the things would
[3:25:23] benefit as well.
[3:25:29] Was is also in the marine corps
[3:25:29] quantico special planning area.
[3:25:43] And that special planning areas
[3:25:50] we met with the marine base
[3:25:51] pick me share some of the
[3:25:52] concerns on environmental
[3:25:56] impacts in the area but they
[3:25:57] are not concerned about what
[3:25:57] the impacts would be on their
[3:26:05] operation.
[3:26:05] Mentioned before when we want
[3:26:06] to look at this in terms of
[3:26:11] where we are now
[3:26:12] , what was
[3:26:12] proposed in 2024 what is being
[3:26:13] proposed now, this is a good
[3:26:19] graphic that shows we are
[3:26:20] trying to get into a better
[3:26:21] place in terms of what is being
[3:26:24] proposed in the land-use
[3:26:25] supervisor had legitimate
[3:26:27] concerns.
[3:26:30] It's more of a suburban
[3:26:32] capacity and you can see this
[3:26:36] from the plans
[3:26:36] .
[3:26:39] And that t1 be is better fit
[3:26:40] for rural area and you can see
[3:26:46] that from the numbers and as
[3:26:49] well as job areas.
[3:26:50] The funeral homes will not
[3:26:54] employ a lot of people.
[3:26:57] You will not be an employment
[3:26:57] resource.
[3:27:02] Stop does recommend board
[3:27:06] approve initiations that they
[3:27:11] would provide opportunities to
[3:27:11] support quantico national
[3:27:13] cemetery that the proposed
[3:27:18] hamlet mixed uses are more
[3:27:18] compatible with the proposed
[3:27:19] convenient retail zoning
[3:27:24] designation
[3:27:24] .
[3:27:25] Amount proposed hamlet
[3:27:26] mixed-use is more compatible
[3:27:30] with the context of the area
[3:27:31] than the office mixed-use and
[3:27:32] that is what I have for you so
[3:27:34] I will open it up for questions
[3:27:34] now.
[3:27:35] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[3:27:39] bailey?
[3:27:41] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for
[3:27:47] your presentation
[3:27:47] .
[3:27:48] I want to highlight the
[3:27:48] positive.
[3:27:52] Supervisor and I, GOD rest his
[3:27:53] soul commit interesting
[3:27:59] conversations.
[3:28:00] Not a lot of cocktails but
[3:28:01] conversations and one thing I
[3:28:04] enjoy about working with the
[3:28:05] supervisor's we could agree to
[3:28:06] disagree and then we would come
[3:28:08] to the middle of the road and
[3:28:11] so I say that because I did
[3:28:12] enjoy working with them but I
[3:28:14] also said what you said about
[3:28:19] this being complementary to the
[3:28:20] quantico base and not only
[3:28:24] that, it is needed on the
[3:28:25] eastern corridor because we
[3:28:26] don't have a lot of services as
[3:28:28] a relates to veterans and
[3:28:30] civilians
[3:28:30] .
[3:28:37] A combination of both did have
[3:28:38] a conversation with the park
[3:28:39] and it was an amicable
[3:28:42] conversation as well so you are
[3:28:49] speaking truth.
[3:28:50] This project is needed as it
[3:28:53] extends to the marine corps
[3:28:54] cemetery, which is part of the
[3:28:57] plan
[3:28:57] .
[3:28:58] You neglected to say that but
[3:29:03] it is a part of that.
[3:29:04] And the re-initiation, the
[3:29:04] changes are due to
[3:29:07] transportation as well
[3:29:07] .
[3:29:10] There's a highlight we had a
[3:29:14] discussion about that as well
[3:29:14] .
[3:29:18] I wanted to bring that forward.
[3:29:19] And has been a long time but I
[3:29:23] am going to support it because
[3:29:27] it is needed.
[3:29:27] It's needed for the community
[3:29:34] in the county to have
[3:29:35] additional access when people
[3:29:37] lose their loved ones
[3:29:37] .
[3:29:39] I appreciate how you presented
[3:29:41] it.
[3:29:42] It is needed and I said that in
[3:29:44] the beginning that is all I
[3:29:51] have
[3:29:51] .
[3:29:52] I don't have any questions.
[3:29:52] It is in my district.
[3:29:55] I will be supporting it and I
[3:30:05] welcome any comments.
[3:30:06] >> from a transportation
[3:30:07] perspective
[3:30:09] , I been down
[3:30:09] .
[3:30:13] i travel quite a bit to get to
[3:30:16] 95 and I've gotten behind a
[3:30:19] funeral procession pick if
[3:30:21] you've driven down joplin road
[3:30:26] you understand it is narrow and
[3:30:31] curvy hilly road to.
[3:30:32] There's no passing, there are
[3:30:37] no shoulders and if you get a
[3:30:38] good wind storm you will find a
[3:30:40] couple of trees down across the
[3:30:43] road.
[3:30:51] Looking at this is a relates to
[3:30:52] funerals, one of the positive
[3:30:54] benefits of having this located
[3:30:58] next to the cemetery rather
[3:30:59] than having the funeral
[3:31:00] processions come from the other
[3:31:08] points into the cemetery.
[3:31:10] >> one of the benefits
[3:31:10] , I don't
[3:31:15] have a good graphic to show you
[3:31:15] but it will have a direct
[3:31:19] access from the site into the
[3:31:20] cemetery.
[3:31:24] That would alleviate those
[3:31:25] traffic procession issues you
[3:31:28] talk about
[3:31:30] .
[3:31:31] And the going to butte funerals
[3:31:40] to other locations?
[3:31:40] Sure.
[3:31:42] As part of the rezoning there
[3:31:42] are ongoing considerations in
[3:31:43] working with the transportation
[3:31:45] department with the applicant
[3:31:48] team and making sure the access
[3:31:53] issues will be sorted out to
[3:32:03] mitigate any potential impacts.
[3:32:05] We are encouraged by what she
[3:32:09] was seeing and listening to the
[3:32:12] counties concerns and
[3:32:13] addressing the consistent
[3:32:14] moving in the right direction
[3:32:21] .
[3:32:22] >> most of the transportation
[3:32:25] impacts are going to be handled
[3:32:25] .
[3:32:29] We have already gone out there
[3:32:30] to walk the corridor work
[3:32:35] taking inventory.
[3:32:36] line of sight distance and ways
[3:32:39] to improve the intersection
[3:32:40] pick especially with more
[3:32:41] traffic pick people making a
[3:32:44] left turn out of there it is
[3:32:47] safe with them.
[3:32:48] There might be right-of-way
[3:32:53] constraints we work through.
[3:32:53] Live commented the same and
[3:32:54] there is suggesting doing
[3:32:56] something like a traffic circle
[3:32:56] .
[3:32:58] I don't want to set any
[3:33:01] unrealistic expectations, but
[3:33:05] that comment was made but we
[3:33:06] are proactively working through
[3:33:06] all that
[3:33:15] with the applicant.
[3:33:16] >> I think this benefit but
[3:33:20] given its location and that is
[3:33:21] a curvy area.
[3:33:21] I look forward to seeing what
[3:33:23] the transportation solution is
[3:33:30] .
[3:33:31] >> Chair Deshundra: did anyone
[3:33:33] else have any questions
[3:33:36] ?
[3:33:37] Thank you so much.
[3:33:37] I would like to go ahead.
[3:33:38] Would you like to move this
[3:33:45] forward?
[3:33:47] >> Chair Deshundra: I wondered
[3:33:48] if the second had anything to
[3:33:49] do with the traffic circle big
[3:33:51] supervisor trying to
[3:33:52] .
[3:33:52] >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I
[3:33:58] wanted to thank staff doing
[3:33:59] more work on this become a
[3:34:00] highlight and reinforcement
[3:34:02] supervisor bailey was saying
[3:34:02] big supervisor weir, GOD rest
[3:34:04] his soul
[3:34:04] .
[3:34:08] I want to highlight how we do
[3:34:10] with the new comp plan of
[3:34:13] nuanced than fit an area like
[3:34:14] this
[3:34:18] .
[3:34:19] Wanted to say as we continue to
[3:34:23] have conversations not only on
[3:34:24] this project but folks that
[3:34:25] come in and request things we
[3:34:28] work with you all to get sharp
[3:34:29] when it comes to the right lung
[3:34:35] range land-use designations
[3:34:36] pick analysis and all the other
[3:34:36] reviewing agencies and the
[3:34:37] public perception about what we
[3:34:40] are doing to develop.
[3:34:43] I will be supporting this
[3:34:43] .
[3:34:44] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[3:34:47] bailey?
[3:34:48] >> Andrea Bailey: I want to
[3:34:49] acknowledge they client sitting
[3:34:50] to the back.
[3:34:53] Thank you for your cooperation
[3:34:56] working through the hard stuff.
[3:34:56] The small business is a
[3:34:59] resident for a long time until
[3:35:01] been watching the needs and how
[3:35:03] do we partner to make things
[3:35:06] happen we respect and
[3:35:09] appreciate that to the planning
[3:35:11] department.
[3:35:14] You all rock
[3:35:14] .
[3:35:15] It's good to see you in sitting
[3:35:18] at the end of the home
[3:35:18] .
[3:35:19] You identified if there were
[3:35:21] burial opportunities we need to
[3:35:21] acknowledge
[3:35:21] .
[3:35:23] That is important.
[3:35:26] Not just the traveling circle
[3:35:33] .
[3:35:37] Not just military history but
[3:35:37] family history.
[3:35:38] Hank you to
[3:35:44] the planning department for all
[3:35:44] the work you've done.
[3:35:45] It's been almost 5 years.
[3:35:46] Thank you so much.
[3:35:51] >> alright thank you very much.
[3:35:52] Let's go ahead, since there is
[3:35:54] no one else here to take a
[3:36:06] vote.
[3:36:07] >> vote is unanimous.
[3:36:14] >> thank you.
[3:36:14] >> thank you, MADAM Chair. With
[3:36:17] item 11 b zoning map amendment
[3:36:23] turning it over to planning.
[3:36:23] >> that afternoon.
[3:36:25] Tonya washington, planning
[3:36:26] director.
[3:36:31] She could not make it here.
[3:36:32] David will be here to provide
[3:36:32] the presentation on the request
[3:36:37] to initiate zoning map ing map
[3:36:37] amendment 2027 b
[3:36:43] ndment 2027 b
[3:36:43] 0001.
[3:36:45] > thank you MS.
[3:36:46] Washington.
[3:36:49] David from the planning office.
[3:36:50] Members of the board.
[3:36:52] Glad to present to you on this
[3:36:53] zoning map amendment.
[3:36:58] This is a different than maybe
[3:36:59] some other things you have seen
[3:37:03] and not this is a proactive
[3:37:05] rezoning by the board of land
[3:37:08] to further the comprehensive
[3:37:08] plan.
[3:37:11] As was directed by the board.
[3:37:15] In JUNE 19, 2026.
[3:37:19] This location was subject o a
[3:37:21] previous rezoning and special
[3:37:24] use permit for a data center
[3:37:27] that was denied by the board.
[3:37:30] There is not much industrial
[3:37:35] land in the area left that is
[3:37:40] not data center claims.
[3:37:41] It's an economic development
[3:37:42] opportunity to use this land
[3:37:43] and encourage development that
[3:37:46] is not going to be at the
[3:37:51] center and by proactively
[3:37:52] rezoning and make the way
[3:37:53] better for it and have more
[3:37:55] land that christina, the
[3:37:56] award-winning economic
[3:37:57] development team.
[3:38:02] So to potential applicants.
[3:38:03] We are recommending initiation
[3:38:04] of this.
[3:38:05] Again it's just initiation of
[3:38:08] the zoning map amendment.
[3:38:10] we will come back with public
[3:38:11] hearing to the planning
[3:38:12] commission and the board to
[3:38:14] approve this rezoning.
[3:38:17] So, just for location wise,
[3:38:20] this is west of manassas on
[3:38:21] route 28.
[3:38:26] West of innovation park.
[3:38:28] North side of the road near the
[3:38:29] airport.
[3:38:32] Near use for tomorrow.
[3:38:38] The broad run linear trail.
[3:38:41] It's s mostly industrial tech
[3:38:43] flex which is the medium
[3:38:48] intensity industrial
[3:38:49] appropriate long-range land use
[3:38:49] for data centers and the
[3:38:53] proposed zoning which will be
[3:38:56] planned business district with
[3:39:05] an office high and office and m
[3:39:07] to land designation.
[3:39:13] The variety for his.
[3:39:19] With that, if I can answer any
[3:39:20] questions.
[3:39:27] >> supervisor gordie you are
[3:39:31] and now you are out.
[3:39:32] >> I just have some comments.
[3:39:33] > does anyone have any
[3:39:33] questions?
[3:39:34] >> dave, this might
[3:39:37] be the easiest time at the
[3:39:37] podium.
[3:39:40] Run while you can.
[3:39:41] Supervisor gordie?
[3:39:43] >> MADAM Chair move we approve
[3:39:43] item 11 b.
[3:39:47] >> moved and
[3:39:48] seconded.
[3:39:49] Supervisor gordie I will turn
[3:39:49] to you for discussion.
[3:39:51] >> MADAM Chair, just a little
[3:39:57] bit of background nd here.
[3:39:58] In working with economic
[3:39:59] development we have come to the
[3:40:03] realization that innovation
[3:40:04] park is running out of land.
[3:40:05] We are looking, running out of
[3:40:10] opportunities s to have land
[3:40:11] that is this close to being
[3:40:11] shovel ready.
[3:40:12] e have lost a
[3:40:14] couple of opportunities because
[3:40:15] the land that we had to offer
[3:40:16] had to go through rezoning and
[3:40:19] then I had to go through
[3:40:19] development services.
[3:40:20] We are looking at 5 b
[3:40:25] 6 year
[3:40:26] window and the company says we
[3:40:27] don't have that kind of time so
[3:40:29] if we can identify areas in the
[3:40:29] strategy behind this to
[3:40:32] identify areas, land
[3:40:33] opportunities where we don't
[3:40:38] need a lot of improvements.
[3:40:39] The roads already exist.
[3:40:40] The water, the sewer and
[3:40:41] everything already exists.
[3:40:42] The land just does not align,
[3:40:46] currently with -- in terms of
[3:40:47] zoning to the comprehensive
[3:40:49] plan.
[3:40:50] We take a look, try to identify
[3:40:57] the opportunities, this will
[3:40:58] give us the chance to offer up
[3:40:58] more opportunities for the
[3:41:03] economic development.
[3:41:04] So the proactive rezoning that
[3:41:05] we are doing here is sort of a
[3:41:05] test.
[3:41:06] It's really that we are
[3:41:07] pressure testing the approach
[3:41:11] to proactive rezoning was and I
[3:41:14] really appreciate the planning
[3:41:15] staff.
[3:41:15] I appreciate economic
[3:41:16] development.
[3:41:18] We have had numerous meetings
[3:41:19] about how do we do this?
[3:41:20] Where we need to do to move
[3:41:22] this forward?
[3:41:23] This is sort of the test case
[3:41:26] to figure out how we do this
[3:41:26] going forward.
[3:41:27] Here might be
[3:41:28] some bumps along the way.
[3:41:33] We've already had one bump and
[3:41:34] realized there was 2 b
[3:41:34] 3
[3:41:35] parcels that we failed to
[3:41:36] include that need to be part of
[3:41:36] this.
[3:41:37] We will be bringing those back
[3:41:40] later on to provide the access
[3:41:45] to the site.
[3:41:47] In order to maintain momentum
[3:41:52] with what we currently have
[3:41:53] ongoing, I am asking us to move
[3:41:54] forward and we will address the
[3:41:56] other parcels here this month
[3:42:00] or next month.
[3:42:01] >> thank you MADAM Chair.
[3:42:10] >> supervisor bodie?
[3:42:11] >> again, not many people here
[3:42:12] in the audience but I will say
[3:42:17] it anyway.
[3:42:18] We said no to the campus.
[3:42:18] We have an opportunity now to
[3:42:19] highlight and increase
[3:42:25] employment and not activity
[3:42:26] that is in the brownsville
[3:42:27] district because we decided to
[3:42:27] go into a different direction
[3:42:28] on that.
[3:42:29] Earlier today, the approval,
[3:42:29] there is another opportunity
[3:42:31] where we said no to the data
[3:42:31] center.
[3:42:37] We said no in various other
[3:42:37] ways.
[3:42:38] We have employment
[3:42:38] opportunities there as well.
[3:42:39] I say that to say there is
[3:42:40] momentum behind looking at
[3:42:45] these areas in different ways.
[3:42:46] Saying no to data where it
[3:42:47] makes sense and in order to
[3:42:48] have more opportunities.
[3:42:58] I also see this as a broad
[3:42:58] scape around green tape.
[3:43:00] We talk about red taping and
[3:43:00] regulations and how they get a
[3:43:01] way of allowing folks to create
[3:43:02] more job opportunities or
[3:43:03] housing opportunities.
[3:43:04] More opportunities to begin
[3:43:04] with.
[3:43:07] I see it as a great step and a
[3:43:07] pilot.
[3:43:08] Green tape where it makes sense
[3:43:09] to the county to allow folks to
[3:43:13] get through the process a lot
[3:43:13] quicker.
[3:43:13] Time is money.
[3:43:16] Money is time.
[3:43:22] In situation where you have
[3:43:23] people that need land now.
[3:43:23] 24 b
[3:43:24] 36 month cycle to go
[3:43:29] through a entitlement and the
[3:43:30] development services and all
[3:43:31] those things.
[3:43:31] They don't have time.
[3:43:32] There is other localities that
[3:43:33] will allow that to be a much
[3:43:37] more streamlined, shorter
[3:43:38] timeframe.
[3:43:39] We are losing out on these
[3:43:39] opportunities.
[3:43:42] I just say that to say, this is
[3:43:42] the first one.
[3:43:43] I hope it's not the last.
[3:43:44] I really look forward to seeing
[3:43:45] how this is tested out and
[3:43:46] pressure tested so we can begin
[3:43:53] looking at ways to incorporate
[3:43:54] that into other strategies that
[3:43:55] we have two green tape the
[3:43:56] development as it makes sense
[3:43:56] to create more jobs in the
[3:43:56] county.
[3:43:57] Thank you, MADAM Chair.
[3:43:58] >> alright I don't have anyone
[3:43:58] else in the queue.
[3:44:02] Let's go ahead.
[3:44:03] Wait, we have a motion on this,
[3:44:03] right?
[3:44:15] Let's take the vote.
[3:44:18] >> vote is unanimous.
[3:44:21] >> thank you so very much.
[3:44:22] As we mentioned earlier, we
[3:44:26] voted to defer 11 item c to a
[3:44:29] day uncertain.
[3:44:32] We will go ray into agenda item
[3:44:32] 12.
[3:44:36] I first would like to take some
[3:44:36] votes.
[3:44:39] Let's go ahead and move letter
[3:44:46] 12 a.
[3:44:47] >> properly moved and seconded.
[3:44:59] let's go ahead and take the
[3:45:05] >> is it working?
[3:45:13] Jeannie is a yes.
[3:45:14] [Laughter]
[3:45:14] >> the vote is unanimous.
[3:45:15] >> we are going to move on now
[3:45:22] to letter 12 do you want to
[3:45:23] keep it up for us?
[3:45:26] Please turn on the microphone.
[3:45:30] >> MADAM Chair -- I promise you
[3:45:32] this will happen.
[3:45:34] I want to take this opportunity
[3:45:36] to introduce the director that
[3:45:43] I shared with you all before
[3:45:44] and I'm bringing it back
[3:45:45] because governor has passed the
[3:45:46] bill in reference to this.
[3:45:47] As we know there has been a lot
[3:45:48] of discussion and proposed
[3:45:49] legislation regarding marijuana
[3:45:52] and cannabis.
[3:45:53] I like to explore the ability
[3:45:58] of establishing local marijuana
[3:45:59] task force and prince william
[3:46:00] county.
[3:46:00] Without objection I would like
[3:46:03] to direct the county executive
[3:46:03] to work with staff to review
[3:46:04] the counties legal authority
[3:46:05] under current federal and state
[3:46:07] law to implement such a tax to
[3:46:10] include 2026 general assembly
[3:46:13] legislation signed by our
[3:46:13] governor.
[3:46:16] An assessment of the azur-HGAzurcc
[3:46:20] administrative requirements
[3:46:22] associated with such tax.
[3:46:23] Consideration of how pure
[3:46:24] jurisdiction of the virginia
[3:46:27] are approaching this issue on
[3:46:28] any policy consideration or
[3:46:36] implementation challenges the
[3:46:37] board should be aware of going
[3:46:37] forward.
[3:46:37] The
[3:46:38] county executive is directed
[3:46:39] to bring back an appropriate
[3:46:40] regulation for the board
[3:46:40] consideration.
[3:46:41] Such recommendation should,
[3:46:42] where applicable, should
[3:46:45] include timelines, physical
[3:46:46] impacts and other pertinent
[3:46:46] impacts for board
[3:46:48] consideration.
[3:46:49] The county attorney's office is
[3:46:50] directed to review the
[3:46:52] information regulations for any
[3:46:59] legal issues keeping us safe
[3:47:00] when the researcher work are
[3:47:00] completed the county executive
[3:47:01] should report back to the board
[3:47:02] with his recommendations during
[3:47:04] board meetings or by memorandum
[3:47:09] as they determine
[3:47:10] appropriately.
[3:47:11] >> Chair Deshundra: we don't
[3:47:17] need to read anymore
[3:47:17] .
[3:47:18] You want to make sure.
[3:47:18] If there are no objections,
[3:47:19] does anyone have any
[3:47:19] objections?
[3:47:20] All right
[3:47:25] .
[3:47:26] There is no one jumping.
[3:47:26] Do you
[3:47:32] want to jump?
[3:47:34] All right.
[3:47:39] And so that moves forward it.
[3:47:40] I will let you go ahead.
[3:47:40] Keep that light on.
[3:47:41] E will go
[3:47:42] around the horn
[3:47:51] .
[3:47:51] I am just saying yes
[3:47:55] .
[3:47:58] Everyone has
[3:47:58] , I know kidneys
[3:48:03] and their own stuff because
[3:48:04] long as everyone sends it to
[3:48:04] the board it will get on the
[3:48:07] next agenda so if anyone is
[3:48:08] anything to pass out, email is
[3:48:13] a better option pick with that
[3:48:13] ,
[3:48:14] are you ready for your five
[3:48:22] minutes of fame?
[3:48:31] [Inaudible]
[3:48:32] To reappoint millicent greene
[3:48:36] to the cda borden point seth to
[3:48:39] the housing board
[3:48:39] .
[3:48:40] With that I participated in
[3:48:41] national night out and had a
[3:48:45] great time with my colleagues
[3:48:45] .
[3:48:46] Thanks to the chief and
[3:48:46] corridor for the amazing
[3:48:50] evening minute ride.
[3:48:51] On the fifth I have a youth
[3:48:53] form with my interns and
[3:48:56] captain carter came
[3:49:03] , along with
[3:49:04] three other youth leaders and
[3:49:05] they talked about community
[3:49:06] safety and youth engagement,
[3:49:07] mental health and emotional
[3:49:08] wellness for preparing
[3:49:09] challenges for youth in the
[3:49:09] community.
[3:49:10] On the sixth I attended the
[3:49:14] adult recovery court
[3:49:15] graduations and congratulation
[3:49:18] to supervisor angry for your
[3:49:22] presentation and then on the
[3:49:26] eighth I attended the american
[3:49:34] revolution memorial dedication
[3:49:35] thanks to rob, parks and
[3:49:36] recreation for a beautiful
[3:49:37] presentation and finalizing our
[3:49:40] museum
[3:49:40] .
[3:49:41] It's beautiful.
[3:49:41] If you haven't gone there,
[3:49:42] please take a look.
[3:49:45] Fire rescue graduation class
[3:49:49] xxvi one bird dogs they
[3:49:49] graduated.
[3:49:52] On the 13th through the 15th
[3:49:52] ,
[3:49:55] supervisor angry for a great
[3:49:55] powerful summit where our
[3:49:59] governor makino speaker came
[3:50:01] and talked to us and us chair
[3:50:07] and how the human resources
[3:50:07] came and talked to us about
[3:50:08] snap on medicaid programs
[3:50:12] within our region
[3:50:12] .
[3:50:15] on the 15th participated in the
[3:50:17] foundation annual back to
[3:50:21] school backpack were
[3:50:21] contributed to my stuff
[3:50:22] attended
[3:50:27] .
[3:50:32] The 10th annual anniversary for
[3:50:33] the jr realtor association.
[3:50:35] Congratulations to them.
[3:50:36] And then the 25th anniversary
[3:50:41] wrap up buses in person.
[3:50:46] And then condolences to one of
[3:50:49] our great leaders
[3:50:49] , doctor
[3:50:57] howard passed away she was the
[3:50:58] PRESIDENT Of the national board
[3:50:59] member with the coalition of
[3:51:00] 100 black women in prince
[3:51:00] william county.
[3:51:04] We will MISS Her advocacy and
[3:51:04] support.
[3:51:05] On the 27th I did the back to
[3:51:10] school to her and shook hands
[3:51:11] with the parents and high-fived
[3:51:12] with the kids and we had a
[3:51:15] great time
[3:51:15] .
[3:51:16] Visas on the 27th as well.
[3:51:17] We had a good time and then on
[3:51:19] the 30th I participated in the
[3:51:22] maternal health summit 2026
[3:51:23] more program thanks to kristin
[3:51:26] 's who honored and
[3:51:34] participated.
[3:51:36] My mert derek would for the
[3:51:37] summit to support maternal
[3:51:48] health care congratulations to
[3:51:49] the washington manassas airport
[3:51:53] authority ceremony.
[3:51:57] We have finally gotten a formal
[3:51:59] certification
[3:51:59] .
[3:52:06] We can operate as a commercial
[3:52:07] airport and we need that on
[3:52:07] this end of the county so
[3:52:08] congratulations to all that is
[3:52:09] all I have.
[3:52:13] >> Chair Deshundra: all right.
[3:52:13] Supervisor stewart?
[3:52:17] >> George Stewart: thank you
[3:52:17] madam chair.
[3:52:22] Welcome back for what remains
[3:52:22] .
[3:52:25] I trust everybody had a good
[3:52:27] healthy summer and will enjoy
[3:52:30] what remains
[3:52:30] .
[3:52:31] Just to mention some things
[3:52:39] that happened since we last
[3:52:39] met.
[3:52:40] I also attended national night
[3:52:44] out in haymarket.
[3:52:44] On AUGUST 21 I attended with
[3:52:52] MADAM Chair the ribbon-cutting
[3:52:52] .
[3:52:53] The del webb the community and
[3:52:56] also in haymarket close to the
[3:52:56] hospital.
[3:52:59] I attended the summer concert
[3:53:02] series in haymarket
[3:53:02] .
[3:53:04] Haymarket is doing a law and
[3:53:08] also participated in A.M. Dc
[3:53:10] zip line to work.
[3:53:11] Everybody have a great
[3:53:13] remaining of summer we will see
[3:53:15] you in two weeks.
[3:53:17] >> Chair Deshundra: are you
[3:53:24] ready supervisor gordy?
[3:53:25] >> Tom Gordy: I don't have a
[3:53:27] whole lot to share
[3:53:27] .
[3:53:38] I did take the opportunity on
[3:53:38] the AUGUST recess to travel
[3:53:39] with my family across the
[3:53:40] country to take a road trip to
[3:53:41] do something my family has
[3:53:43] never done.
[3:53:44] Seen 22 states traveling 8000
[3:53:46] miles
[3:53:47] , visiting national parks.
[3:53:52] Visiting you lotta communities
[3:53:53] and seeing what's happening
[3:53:54] across the country in terms of
[3:53:55] how they are managing housing,
[3:53:58] how they are managing
[3:54:04] transportation.
[3:54:05] As well as come amazingly how
[3:54:06] many say no to datacenter signs
[3:54:07] across the country in
[3:54:09] communities
[3:54:09] .
[3:54:13] The issues we are dealing with
[3:54:19] are not isolated to us
[3:54:20] .
[3:54:21] Clearly we are seeing many
[3:54:22] communities across the country
[3:54:24] dealing with affordable housing
[3:54:25] they are dealing with other
[3:54:28] life affordability issues.
[3:54:29] It's really interesting to see
[3:54:32] what life is like.
[3:54:33] All I can say is I'm glad that
[3:54:37] we are not paying $6.90 per gas
[3:54:40] like they are in california.
[3:54:44] I do want to let the community
[3:54:45] know chair jefferson and I are
[3:54:48] working on a date and should
[3:54:49] have a date set soon as a
[3:54:56] follow-up to power meetings on
[3:54:57] electrical power and so we will
[3:54:58] be getting those dates out very
[3:55:00] shortly and look forward to
[3:55:01] conversations about meeting the
[3:55:05] challenges concerning the
[3:55:06] burnsville district.
[3:55:07] Other than that, that is all I
[3:55:11] have.
[3:55:12] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going
[3:55:12] to go to
[3:55:13] supervisor boddye.
[3:55:14] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you
[3:55:25] MADAM Chair.
[3:55:26] First, a housekeeping item.
[3:55:27] I would like to provide my
[3:55:28] notice of intent to appoint
[3:55:29] owen meyer to the library
[3:55:29] board.
[3:55:31] The clerks have his resume he's
[3:55:31] going to be one our youngest
[3:55:33] appointees
[3:55:33] .
[3:55:37] He has come to our meeting
[3:55:38] quite a few times and is
[3:55:42] enthusiastic about working with
[3:55:43] the community and helping and
[3:55:44] so I appreciate being able to
[3:55:45] appoint him
[3:55:45] .
[3:55:49] I'm not going to belabor this
[3:55:49] too much.
[3:55:50] I went to the same events
[3:55:51] everyone else did.
[3:55:52] It's a great opportunity
[3:55:52] .
[3:55:55] There are some folks in the
[3:56:00] business community that think
[3:56:02] that AUGUST recess means less
[3:56:02] work on the dais or for the
[3:56:04] county government.
[3:56:08] It does not mean that
[3:56:08] .
[3:56:10] I want to highlight the work
[3:56:15] they did with the team and off
[3:56:18] of the table
[3:56:18] .
[3:56:21] And to all my colleagues we
[3:56:22] continue to show up at each and
[3:56:28] every day in various ways and
[3:56:29] so I wanted to highlight doctor
[3:56:30] guide to resolutions I wanted
[3:56:30] to discuss.
[3:56:32] When I sent out to folks a week
[3:56:33] and half ago.
[3:56:34] I'm sorry but I did print this
[3:56:34] one out.
[3:56:41] Some folks like paper
[3:56:45] this day and age.
[3:56:46] Most onto opportunity to be
[3:56:48] brief I principal them water in
[3:56:54] regards to interest of the city
[3:56:55] of manassas on consumptive
[3:57:01] reuse and diverting some of the
[3:57:02] treated wastewater out of the
[3:57:02] system to buy
[3:57:03] used by industrial
[3:57:03] uses.
[3:57:06] He highlighted why there is a
[3:57:09] concern a principal them water.
[3:57:13] Fairfax county and our very own
[3:57:13] fairfax water board of
[3:57:14] directors is concerned about
[3:57:18] this.
[3:57:21] That we take a stance as we
[3:57:23] continue to have conversation
[3:57:28] on water scarcity of our water
[3:57:29] comes from treated water that
[3:57:31] is put back in the system
[3:57:34] having it go away was probably
[3:57:40] not a good idea
[3:57:40] .
[3:57:41] That's going to be on the
[3:57:42] SEPTEMBER 15 agenda so I wanted
[3:57:45] to handed out to folks to have.
[3:57:47] The resolution out to folks.
[3:57:50] Long story short
[3:57:51] , there was a
[3:57:56] house bill that asked for a
[3:57:58] groundwater study to look up
[3:58:01] western loud in falk your
[3:58:06] counties in the watershed there
[3:58:07] for groundwater concerns,
[3:58:12] possible mitigations,
[3:58:13] groundwater management
[3:58:13] strategies and is everyone on
[3:58:15] the board and the community
[3:58:19] will knows, watershed and
[3:58:20] basins don't respect boundaries
[3:58:21] and so we were left out of
[3:58:23] that.
[3:58:23] The bill died in committee in
[3:58:24] qu?Bec and resurrected through
[3:58:28] the budget amendment was
[3:58:29] ultimately passed.
[3:58:34] Deq was conducting the study
[3:58:35] and it's going to be delivered
[3:58:36] sometime later this year in the
[3:58:37] NOVEMBER and DECEMBER
[3:58:37] timeframe.
[3:58:38] My second
[3:58:44] resolution requests that has us
[3:58:45] request can we be added to the
[3:58:51] study
[3:58:52] .
[3:58:53] Groundwater impacts also would
[3:58:54] impact us as well so I wanted
[3:58:57] us to be included in the study.
[3:58:58] Going on that is a lot for us
[3:58:59] to consider some not formally
[3:59:02] requesting that be only for
[3:59:03] SEPTEMBER 16 agenda but I
[3:59:03] wanted to.
[3:59:07] >> Kenny Boddye: it now so
[3:59:08] folks know that's coming in
[3:59:09] evokes of questions about
[3:59:10] resolutions I more than happy
[3:59:16] to approach me in my office.
[3:59:17] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going
[3:59:18] to mix it up and go to
[3:59:18] supervisor lacroix.
[3:59:20] >> Jeannie LaCroix: welcome
[3:59:22] back everyone.
[3:59:31] I have a handout.
[3:59:32] I was a national night out as
[3:59:32] well and I was in the car with
[3:59:34] andrea and captain carter.
[3:59:45] With so much fun I joined the
[3:59:46] unity in the community at the
[3:59:47] unity church that was a good
[3:59:50] event when they had free
[3:59:56] screening they were doing all
[4:00:00] kinds of things and so I want
[4:00:01] the whole word to get out
[4:00:02] throughout the woodbridge
[4:00:10] district we also went to bel
[4:00:10] air mobile homes and that's
[4:00:11] where I was able to bring the
[4:00:12] welcome the woodbridge
[4:00:13] community resource guide to.
[4:00:14] I gave you all the completed
[4:00:24] one it's bilingual on we tried
[4:00:27] to make it woodbridge ringling.
[4:00:35] It stays in woodbridge and if
[4:00:35] you look in it and see we
[4:00:37] missed something we will added
[4:00:38] to it.
[4:00:39] I hope it's a growing document
[4:00:41] that stays local in emperor
[4:00:44] folks
[4:00:45] .
[4:00:46] I visited the senior center and
[4:00:53] the crisis center we had been
[4:00:54] knocking on doors to ask of
[4:01:00] them even though he was asking
[4:01:01] him if we could take care of
[4:01:03] picking up trash can help with
[4:01:05] mowing the grass
[4:01:08] , doing stuff
[4:01:09] in front of them and on the
[4:01:10] side of them so they been
[4:01:14] really good at that.
[4:01:15] The lacroix team went to the
[4:01:19] beach.
[4:01:19] I think all good supervisors
[4:01:20] should bring their stock
[4:01:20] to the
[4:01:29] beach.
[4:01:30] They were alone really good
[4:01:31] spirited and they are young and
[4:01:32] I'm trying to keep up with
[4:01:35] them.
[4:01:38] We were in lot of fun.
[4:01:39] We have a new member of our
[4:01:45] staff and it is the jamie
[4:01:48] lacroix ice cream freezer.
[4:01:50] Insupportable.
[4:01:56] We go and we do town halls
[4:01:57] because we know I don't draw as
[4:02:00] many people as I screamed does
[4:02:00] .
[4:02:01] We will try to have something
[4:02:03] there so we can help them and
[4:02:04] talk to them and keep them
[4:02:09] updated.
[4:02:10] We have also done the ho a
[4:02:11] roundtable with the
[4:02:12] neighborhood services
[4:02:13] transportation came.
[4:02:15] Police came.
[4:02:17] I don't know, did I appoint
[4:02:21] will lorenz to the purchase and
[4:02:25] development rights committee?
[4:02:26] Finally we adopted trashy the
[4:02:30] raccoon
[4:02:31] .
[4:02:31] It is something that is been
[4:02:32] going on and we needed in the
[4:02:35] woodbridge district
[4:02:35] .
[4:02:36] We went to the crab feast and
[4:02:39] had a great time and finally, I
[4:02:40] got back from vermont where I
[4:02:44] was canoeing and hiking and
[4:02:45] mountain biking in the mountain
[4:02:49] biking did me in.
[4:02:50] But it was a great time and I'm
[4:02:53] going back to mountain biking.
[4:02:54] >> Kenny Boddye: have a
[4:02:55] question for supervisor
[4:02:55] lacroix.
[4:02:57] Did you name him MR.
[4:03:02] Freeze because you need to.
[4:03:12] >> what was the name again?
[4:03:13] >> Chair Deshundra: I will go
[4:03:15] to supervisor vega.
[4:03:16] >> Yesli Vega: everyone has
[4:03:19] missed me tremendously.
[4:03:20] You can laugh now
[4:03:21] .
[4:03:22] Gosh.
[4:03:27] i don't have anything.
[4:03:28] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[4:03:28] angry.
[4:03:29] >> Victor Angry: AUGUST was a
[4:03:32] law so I won't go through all
[4:03:37] that her what I will do is I
[4:03:43] want to give my testimony.
[4:03:44] There are two things I did in
[4:03:45] AUGUST of that tie to what we
[4:03:47] did in our proclamation today.
[4:03:49] First of all, the adult
[4:03:50] recovery.
[4:03:54] That was significant for
[4:03:55] congratulations to the six that
[4:03:58] graduated from that.
[4:03:59] We know everybody makes
[4:04:00] mistakes on the fact that we
[4:04:01] can recover through the court
[4:04:05] process that allows you to be
[4:04:06] law-abiding angry businesses is
[4:04:09] fabulous
[4:04:09] .
[4:04:11] The second was on AUGUST 10 I
[4:04:13] went and gave blood.
[4:04:14] There is still a national
[4:04:16] shortage.
[4:04:19] Interestingly enough I can't
[4:04:20] give blood because I'm a sickle
[4:04:26] say it trait carrier.
[4:04:26] As we did this proclamation
[4:04:28] today want to tell my story why
[4:04:28] that is so very important.
[4:04:31] When I married my wife 36 years
[4:04:34] ago, the united states army,
[4:04:35] the first thing we did was we
[4:04:37] have to take this test because
[4:04:41] you heard in the data, sickle
[4:04:42] cell is a high rate in
[4:04:45] african-american or africans of
[4:04:46] american dissent.
[4:04:48] Birth rate
[4:04:48] .
[4:04:52] What does that really mean?
[4:04:53] We are talking about two people
[4:04:54] getting together and making a
[4:05:01] baby.
[4:05:01] My journey through that as I
[4:05:02] have a 36-year-old son and
[4:05:04] 26-year-old daughter
[4:05:07] .
[4:05:12] my message here is simply this
[4:05:13] week this is how we re-monitor
[4:05:17] sickle cell anemia because you
[4:05:18] get tested.
[4:05:21] If you are a trait carrier you
[4:05:21] cannot get with a trait
[4:05:23] carrier.
[4:05:24] My wife thankfully is not a
[4:05:27] trait carrier.
[4:05:28] It is important you get
[4:05:30] yourself tested for sickle cell
[4:05:35] trait
[4:05:35] .
[4:05:36] Lastly, the american red cross
[4:05:37] is at a national shortage of
[4:05:41] blood to.
[4:05:42] If you can give blood, give
[4:05:43] blood.
[4:05:43] Platelets are just as important
[4:05:44] because it helps fight off the
[4:05:45] lot of the immunity you don't
[4:05:47] have and so my message here is
[4:05:50] simple
[4:05:50] .
[4:05:51] Go out and donate and go out
[4:06:00] and get yourselves green.
[4:06:01] >> Chair Deshundra: I would
[4:06:02] like to appoint allison to the
[4:06:03] social services advisory board.
[4:06:05] You tigre town hall we attended
[4:06:07] bricktown halls
[4:06:08] .
[4:06:08] There's going to be a lot of
[4:06:13] them coming up in the fall
[4:06:13] .
[4:06:14] Supervisor notably on the pulse
[4:06:17] is a discussions about setting
[4:06:18] up a town hall in the proposed
[4:06:19] transmission routes coming to
[4:06:20] the principal district.
[4:06:22] I'm
[4:06:22] also doing a town hall
[4:06:26] SEPTEMBER 28
[4:06:27] .
[4:06:28] We are still finalizing the
[4:06:29] details of reimagining prince
[4:06:29] william to facilitate a
[4:06:34] discussion
[4:06:34] .
[4:06:35] Hearing from the community some
[4:06:39] of the things they want to see
[4:06:40] because the people of expressed
[4:06:41] interest to go into work with
[4:06:43] board members to get this teed
[4:06:44] up and 91 echo what supervisor
[4:06:48] bailey said.
[4:06:49] She was a local legend and she
[4:06:49] had done so much in our
[4:06:56] community.
[4:06:57] She was one of the founding
[4:06:57] members of the national
[4:06:58] coalition of 100 black woman
[4:06:59] prince william county chapter
[4:07:00] and she was a force to be
[4:07:00] reckoned with.
[4:07:01] And so that was a passing.
[4:07:06] Some people think I will stay
[4:07:07] with us forever but sadly that
[4:07:09] is not true looking at her and
[4:07:11] her service to the community, I
[4:07:12] hope it continues to guide us
[4:07:56] let's go ahead and take our
[4:08:09] vote.
[4:10:26] We are resuming our evening
[4:10:32] session.
[4:10:32] We don't want our young people
[4:10:33] to MISS School so the principal
[4:10:35] tigers were not able to come in
[4:10:35] the 2 o'clock meeting so we are
[4:10:44] going to begin with them we are
[4:10:44] going to do a commendation for
[4:10:45] this team.
[4:10:45] And so if the students can join
[4:10:46] us
[4:10:46] .
[4:10:47] If you could line up on the
[4:10:51] side and the coaches, we will
[4:11:19] begin with you all.
[4:11:20] >> good evening.
[4:11:22] Thank you MADAM Chair.
[4:11:23] I am trying so hard not to
[4:11:26] smile but I am very proud to
[4:11:27] nine.
[4:11:31] Not just to because these young
[4:11:32] men represented principal high
[4:11:33] school with pride and
[4:11:41] integrity, but because my baby
[4:11:42] who does not want me to
[4:11:42] embarrass them but I am trying
[4:11:43] so hard as a part of this
[4:11:49] amazing group of human
[4:11:49] .
[4:11:50] Let me get right to it.
[4:11:50] The board of county supervisors
[4:11:51] would like to issue the
[4:11:52] following proclamation.
[4:11:53] The rental district I school
[4:11:57] boys team demonstrated
[4:11:58] exceptional skills going to
[4:11:59] diminish, teamwork and
[4:12:00] sportsmanship throughout the
[4:12:03] 2026 season.
[4:12:04] The tigers capture diverse
[4:12:14] regional championship since
[4:12:15] 1998 and earned their place in
[4:12:16] the virginia high school league
[4:12:17] class iii statement advancing
[4:12:18] their postseason competition to
[4:12:18] the state championship.
[4:12:23] Principal advanced to the 2026
[4:12:24] class iii state championship
[4:12:27] game competing and finishing
[4:12:28] the season of the class iii
[4:12:35] state runner-up.
[4:12:36] The accomplishments of the
[4:12:37] students reflect the dedication
[4:12:38] of the players, coaches,
[4:12:40] families, school community and
[4:12:41] supporters who contributed to
[4:12:42] an outstanding season.
[4:12:49] Be it
[4:12:49] resolved the prince william
[4:12:50] board of supervisors air by
[4:12:51] commencing congratulates the
[4:12:52] rental district boys high
[4:12:54] school team for its outstanding
[4:12:55] 2026 season unremarkable run to
[4:13:00] the class three state
[4:13:01] championship game.
[4:13:02] This achievement will be a part
[4:13:10] of principal history and one
[4:13:10] layer memo.
[4:13:11] With pride for the rest of
[4:13:11] their lives.
[4:13:12] The board extends its best
[4:13:13] wishes for continued success
[4:13:14] bought both on and off the
[4:13:14] field.
[4:13:15] If you could please come
[4:13:19] forward to.
[4:13:22] [Applause]
[4:13:26] Which one of you two would like
[4:13:36] to speak?
[4:13:44] >> I prepared something be
[4:13:44] before we talked about winds
[4:13:46] and championships anything that
[4:13:47] happened on the field I want to
[4:13:47] take a moment to talk about
[4:13:53] what made the season special.
[4:13:54] It was all the people behind us
[4:13:55] all the way.
[4:13:55] To our players want you to know
[4:13:56] how proud I am.
[4:13:57] He showed up every day, he
[4:13:58] believed in each other and most
[4:14:00] importantly we learned what it
[4:14:01] means to be a part of something
[4:14:04] bigger than yourself and you
[4:14:05] give hope and believed upcoming
[4:14:11] players for next year and the
[4:14:11] future.
[4:14:12] What you accomplished will be
[4:14:15] remembered for a long time but
[4:14:24] when you look back remember --
[4:14:24] you don't just remember the
[4:14:25] trophies or scoreboard the gopi
[4:14:26] remember the bus ride scuba
[4:14:28] practices, locker room,
[4:14:29] celebrations, difficult moments
[4:14:30] and the people standing beside
[4:14:32] you.
[4:14:33] To our parents with in the late
[4:14:35] nights, the rights to practice
[4:14:35] ,
[4:14:36] the meals on the go and
[4:14:44] everything else nobody else
[4:14:44] sees thank you for trusting us
[4:14:45] with your sons.
[4:14:46] Be in a coaches incredible
[4:14:47] responsibility and we never
[4:14:50] take that lightly.
[4:14:51] Your support allowed these
[4:14:52] young men did she something
[4:14:52] special and we are grateful for
[4:14:57] that.
[4:14:58] Let me skip some of this.
[4:15:00] I wanted to thank coach rich.
[4:15:05] Without him he made a special
[4:15:06] for me to enjoy the game and
[4:15:09] enjoy these young men.
[4:15:10] i'm very proud of them and this
[4:15:10] is the beginning of something
[4:15:11] special
[4:15:14] .
[4:15:19] Go tigers.
[4:15:22] >> for those wondering, rental
[4:15:24] high school is in supervisor
[4:15:31] gordy district him however, my
[4:15:32] son lives in the coles district
[4:15:33] and redistricting caused some
[4:15:34] of my constituents
[4:15:35] , some of my
[4:15:35] kids to go to principal high
[4:15:37] school so that's why we are
[4:15:40] doing this together.
[4:15:41] I see that they brought the
[4:15:41] trophy.
[4:15:44] Can you lifted up?
[4:15:49] All right.
[4:15:50] When we do have special
[4:15:51] teammates not here with us
[4:15:53] today because they are our
[4:15:55] seniors actually now in college
[4:15:58] .
[4:15:59] Before we wrap up I would like
[4:16:04] nick and nikki to come forward
[4:16:14] .
[4:16:15] This couple is noah kaufman's
[4:16:20] parents and know what is not
[4:16:21] here with us because he's away
[4:16:22] at college doing what he loves,
[4:16:25] which is playing soccer.
[4:16:26] I want to brag about noah
[4:16:27] because he accomplish so much
[4:16:27] the season.
[4:16:36] Senior midfielder noah coughlin
[4:16:37] kicked off an outstanding high
[4:16:38] school career with this best
[4:16:39] season scoring 21 goals and 12
[4:16:44] assists while demonstrating
[4:16:45] exceptional leadership
[4:16:46] determination and
[4:16:46] sportsmanship.
[4:16:47] Know what earned recognition as
[4:16:48] a two-time first team all
[4:16:55] district of first time all
[4:16:56] region selection and concluded
[4:16:57] his principal career with 38 to
[4:16:58] goals and 24 assists.
[4:16:59] Establishing himself as one of
[4:17:00] the most accomplished players
[4:17:01] in history of the tiger soccer
[4:17:02] season.
[4:17:02] Lead them to the first champion
[4:17:04] ship since 1998.
[4:17:05] It's first day tournament
[4:17:06] appearances 2008 and an
[4:17:16] appearance in the 2026 class
[4:17:17] iii state championship game.
[4:17:17] Intruding crucibles and assist
[4:17:18] throughout the entire
[4:17:19] postseason run begin
[4:17:20] recognition of his outstanding
[4:17:21] performance, leadership know
[4:17:22] what was named the 2026
[4:17:23] virginia high school league
[4:17:27] class iii soccer player of the
[4:17:32] year distinguishing himself
[4:17:34] among the student-athletes but
[4:17:35] the board of county supervisors
[4:17:35] recognizes and congratulates
[4:17:37] noah on being named the 2026
[4:17:40] class iii boys player of the
[4:17:41] year.
[4:17:44] Ongratulations mom and
[4:17:54] dad.
[4:17:55] >> Chair Deshundra: we are
[4:17:56] going to go outside
[4:17:56] for the
[4:17:56] photo.
[4:17:57] If anyone else would like to
[4:18:29] >> Chair Deshundra: we are
[4:18:32] back.
[4:18:33] That was such a heartwarming
[4:18:34] moment.
[4:18:36] Congratulations to your son.
[4:18:37] We can't wait to see what they
[4:18:38] do this soccer season.
[4:18:39] Is a
[4:18:43] reminder for people not here
[4:18:44] for the 2 o'clock, 14 b
[4:18:49] rezoning proffer amendment for
[4:18:49] project industry.
[4:18:51] That has been deferred
[4:18:51] .
[4:18:55] And so we will only be hearing
[4:19:00] 14 a tonight.
[4:19:00] With that I'm going to invite
[4:19:02] the applicant's representative
[4:19:02] up to the podium for the
[4:19:05] presentation.
[4:19:09] >> MADAM Chair, supervisor
[4:19:14] gordy, thank you for being here
[4:19:14] to hear this case and I hope
[4:19:22] you had a great summer break.
[4:19:27] Wrong one.
[4:19:28] I think I prefer not to do that
[4:19:28] one.
[4:22:28] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm sorry.
[4:22:29] Is the problem with the
[4:22:30] applicant's -- were is the
[4:22:33] problem?
[4:22:34] >> we didn't get the
[4:22:47] presentation.
[4:22:48] >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm
[4:22:49] going to do is give the board a
[4:23:37] >> Chair Deshundra: if the
[4:23:37] applicant is ready, we can be
[4:23:41] back to minutes early.
[4:23:41] The floor is yours.
[4:23:47] >> think you MADAM Chair.
[4:23:48] I'm cory stupid on behalf of my
[4:23:53] client
[4:23:53] .
[4:23:54] It is in the introduction that
[4:23:55] is 23 acres give or take.
[4:24:02] It's on warrington road.
[4:24:03] Will show you the details.
[4:24:06] It was re-planned by the board
[4:24:09] to light industrial and it is
[4:24:10] located in the burnsville
[4:24:14] district.
[4:24:16] And if you would indulge us for
[4:24:17] a moment, I would like to the
[4:24:23] applicant come forward and talk
[4:24:23] about their business a little
[4:24:28] bit, if that is okay.
[4:24:29] >> good evening everyone and
[4:24:31] thank you for your time.
[4:24:32] My name is elder? They can see
[4:24:36] I have six kids
[4:24:36] .
[4:24:37] I grew up in the area, but in
[4:24:37] prince william county for
[4:24:38] middle school, high school and
[4:24:39] attended college around here
[4:24:41] currently helping different
[4:24:43] high schools with rustling.
[4:24:45] All of my kids are going to
[4:24:47] prince william county for their
[4:24:48] schools.
[4:24:53] We basically do screened
[4:24:54] porches and we service the
[4:24:56] community around here
[4:24:56] .
[4:25:00] I'm trying to be brief.
[4:25:01] My wife is with me tonight and
[4:25:07] so my dad is helping us my mom
[4:25:08] was helping us deal with the
[4:25:09] practices for tonight.
[4:25:14] It's a family owned business
[4:25:14] .
[4:25:15] With my side of my family and
[4:25:16] in-laws, everybody is involved
[4:25:16] .
[4:25:20] We do how to use, decks,
[4:25:23] screened porches.
[4:25:27] We work with composite decking
[4:25:27] and things like that.
[4:25:30] We also do stone masonry.
[4:25:31] Exterior wood burning
[4:25:41] fireplaces and stamped concrete
[4:25:42] .
[4:25:42] You can remember with us about
[4:25:43] what we did it with the deck on
[4:25:49] the patio.
[4:25:53] And tilt you more, the main
[4:25:54] reason was the way I believe
[4:25:58] was to continue to grow if you
[4:25:59] are not growing you are
[4:26:00] shrinking and if you were not
[4:26:01] shrinking you were dying.
[4:26:04] We are required to store the
[4:26:07] materials in their own property
[4:26:08] to buy everything in service
[4:26:13] our customers faster but in
[4:26:14] concrete is going to take me
[4:26:17] three weeks
[4:26:18] .
[4:26:19] I am not big enough for some
[4:26:19] people and I am too small for
[4:26:25] others picked the builders and
[4:26:26] other things taking place, I'm
[4:26:27] not priority so I can
[4:26:29] officially run my business
[4:26:30] picked being in but I meant to
[4:26:31] materials on site I am able to
[4:26:33] get to my work faster and thus
[4:26:36] the reason we bought it.
[4:26:43] I just didn't know the rules.
[4:26:46] that's pretty much everything.
[4:26:47] >> better than me.
[4:26:48] They wanted to hear more from
[4:26:49] you than me.
[4:26:53] This site is close to the
[4:26:56] county line and one thing -- I
[4:26:57] have another slide but in order
[4:27:04] to get to this site from 28,
[4:27:04] you don't go through prince
[4:27:05] william county.
[4:27:08] You take a left out of the site
[4:27:08] and it is a mile and 1/2.
[4:27:09] That is how you access the site
[4:27:12] for most people through an exit
[4:27:17] on 28.
[4:27:20] So this is the site
[4:27:20] .
[4:27:24] On the left not as though
[4:27:25] prince william county public
[4:27:29] safety training center
[4:27:29] .
[4:27:30] That is the truck were
[4:27:31] supervisor vegas spent a little
[4:27:33] bit of time.
[4:27:37] To give you an idea
[4:27:37] , before
[4:27:38] this was re-planned by the
[4:27:43] board, it was a perfect place
[4:27:44] to put industrial and I will
[4:27:44] show you the whole space in a
[4:27:46] minute.
[4:27:47] But you are right on the county
[4:27:47] line.
[4:27:55] Right over here
[4:27:55] , right
[4:28:05] down here is the solar farm
[4:28:05] .
[4:28:06] You will see this part of the
[4:28:06] county.
[4:28:08] There's a lot of nonconforming
[4:28:08] uses because this whole area
[4:28:09] hasn't been used for
[4:28:10] agriculture in a long time and
[4:28:12] so what happened overtime is
[4:28:16] people are putting light
[4:28:17] industrial uses in their and
[4:28:18] you have that here and you have
[4:28:25] it back here as well.
[4:28:26] Here is the space, here is your
[4:28:26] training center
[4:28:29] .
[4:28:30] Logan and heidelberg are
[4:28:33] related.
[4:28:34] Is a huge multinational
[4:28:38] corporation now owned we are
[4:28:43] located in germany.
[4:28:44] Leah been holding onto this
[4:28:49] property since the late 60s
[4:28:49] .
[4:28:50] Most of it is owned in what
[4:28:50] one.
[4:28:53] The biggest chunk of it the
[4:28:55] reason they're holding onto it
[4:28:58] is they try to get the sep to
[4:29:02] do the when I first entered the
[4:29:04] board in the early 2004.
[4:29:08] But they are sitting on and
[4:29:12] someday they will try it again.
[4:29:13] You can see the space that we
[4:29:16] are dealing with.
[4:29:17] Gdp is simple and the reason is
[4:29:19] there is no sewer, there is no
[4:29:25] water right there is not a lot
[4:29:25] that you can do with it but for
[4:29:28] industrial that's okay
[4:29:28] .
[4:29:29] I am sure you are hearing about
[4:29:31] this
[4:29:31] .
[4:29:32] There's a lot of small
[4:29:37] contractors and businesses that
[4:29:37] need a place to put their
[4:29:38] stuff.
[4:29:38] Nd the problem with
[4:29:42] them to which is the light
[4:29:47] industrial zoning category,
[4:29:48] doesn't allow for outdoor
[4:29:49] storage and equipment and
[4:29:52] materials as a primary use but
[4:29:53] out here that is pretty much
[4:29:54] the only thing that you can do
[4:29:58] and you set forth your stuff is
[4:29:59] working on a zoning text
[4:30:01] amendment
[4:30:06] , but for now there's
[4:30:07] a lotta people like this who
[4:30:08] want to be able to store things
[4:30:10] .
[4:30:12] Some properties can use them to
[4:30:13] .
[4:30:15] it works for data centers but
[4:30:16] it doesn't work for most
[4:30:19] businesses give a smaller piece
[4:30:23] of properties anyone to do
[4:30:26] outdoor storage as an ancillary
[4:30:30] use, it works for most
[4:30:31] businesses it does not work and
[4:30:36] that is the case
[4:30:36] .
[4:30:37] The m3 yard cites here.
[4:30:38] This is the one they intend to
[4:30:44] use this is warrington road.
[4:30:45] They have additional yard
[4:30:48] cites.
[4:30:51] As a huge demand for outdoor
[4:30:55] storage
[4:30:56] , and absolute huge
[4:30:59] demand.
[4:31:00] Now they have an opportunity to
[4:31:02] provide a solution for
[4:31:05] themselves and they won't have
[4:31:06] any problem trying to lease
[4:31:09] this out further light
[4:31:14] industrial humors or contract.
[4:31:17] I'm colorblind so tell me if I
[4:31:18] am wrong but in the turquoise
[4:31:23] you will see it.
[4:31:29] This is the industrial land you
[4:31:30] re-planned in 2022 and here is
[4:31:32] the pl, the public land you
[4:31:36] public safety training center.
[4:31:37] We went to the planning
[4:31:40] commission
[4:31:40] .
[4:31:41] At that time the staff had some
[4:31:42] concerns and we worked through
[4:31:43] those
[4:31:43] .
[4:31:48] We made several changes on as a
[4:31:49] result the staff is
[4:31:52] recommending approval and it is
[4:31:53] consistent with every chapter
[4:31:57] the comprehensive plan.
[4:31:59] This is the staff
[4:32:04] recommendation we did all that.
[4:32:08] We were consistent with I to in
[4:32:11] reality.
[4:32:12] We are adhering to the
[4:32:12] standards.
[4:32:18] This is de facto, but because
[4:32:21] the zoning category doesn't
[4:32:23] work
[4:32:28] , 80 uses in emmett one we
[4:32:31] have no use for those are going
[4:32:37] to happen that is why with I
[4:32:41] to.
[4:32:45] We excluded data centers
[4:32:45] .
[4:32:46] We know that is a concern of
[4:32:47] the community.
[4:32:52] We proffered that out.
[4:32:52] We updated the gdp.
[4:32:57] There was
[4:32:58] uncertainty the staff
[4:32:59] identified that we wanted to
[4:33:06] correct that.
[4:33:08] All right
[4:33:09] .
[4:33:10] I wanted to end on, I know
[4:33:15] christina is here but I wanted
[4:33:16] to end on the recommendation
[4:33:18] from economic development and
[4:33:23] tourism this is the reason why.
[4:33:24] There is a huge shortage in
[4:33:27] omsk data center and is going
[4:33:32] to keep those businesses more
[4:33:34] than anything it keeps it in
[4:33:36] the county in the job base
[4:33:37] otherwise they have no choice
[4:33:42] .
[4:33:46] Have no choice
[4:33:46] .
[4:33:47] They park their equipment and
[4:33:48] materials on the property in
[4:33:49] residential neighborhoods where
[4:33:50] they move out to the county.
[4:33:53] This helps balance your tax
[4:33:58] base and is consistent with the
[4:34:02] strategic plan.
[4:34:03] That's it and we are open for
[4:34:08] any questions you might have.
[4:34:09] >> Chair Deshundra: it looks
[4:34:09] like my screen is down.
[4:34:11] I can't even reloaded her
[4:34:13] .
[4:34:16] I'm going to look over here
[4:34:17] first big supervisor, did you
[4:34:18] have any thing you wanted to
[4:34:22] say?
[4:34:22] >> Tom Gordy: I will hold
[4:34:25] questions for staff.
[4:34:26] >> Chair Deshundra: does
[4:34:28] anybody else have anything?
[4:34:29] I am still down.
[4:34:30] If you would like to come up
[4:34:32] and present
[4:35:11] .
[4:35:12] >> good evening MADAME Turn
[4:35:13] members of the board of
[4:35:15] supervisors.
[4:35:16] Do you want to finish resolving
[4:35:17] the tech issue first would you
[4:35:21] like me to begin?
[4:35:21] My name is harrison.
[4:35:26] I am the case planner for this
[4:35:26] case and am going to go over
[4:35:27] with you guys the history of
[4:35:30] the case, what happened at the
[4:35:35] planning commissioner level,
[4:35:36] what issue they had, the
[4:35:37] applicant interested in how we
[4:35:41] got to where we are today.
[4:35:49] Moving right along.
[4:35:50] This is a rezoning for me one
[4:35:50] agriculture to m1 heavy
[4:35:51] industrial to allow for future
[4:35:57] industrial uses in that
[4:35:58] category and significant
[4:35:59] portions will be leased out to
[4:36:00] other industrial users will the
[4:36:01] applicant is only going using a
[4:36:03] small portion of the site.
[4:36:05] 's 23 acre properties stated on
[4:36:09] more intent road.6 miles west
[4:36:12] of the intersection with the
[4:36:15] carriage ford road with 94? 07
[4:36:18] ? 8472 and is addressed is 13
[4:36:22] 505 warrington road this is a
[4:36:25] rounding site
[4:36:25] .
[4:36:26] Subject is surrounded by single
[4:36:31] family residences
[4:36:31] .
[4:36:32] The north's undeveloped forest
[4:36:33] in the east is the training
[4:36:37] academy and solar farm.
[4:36:38] The planning commission did
[4:36:39] recommend approval with
[4:36:40] specific recommendations, which
[4:36:44] I will be covering in the
[4:36:45] moment and stuff does recommend
[4:36:47] approval
[4:36:47] .
[4:36:50] For full transparency, there
[4:36:53] were public comments of the
[4:36:54] planning commission hearing and
[4:36:56] we received public comments as
[4:37:01] well over email and other
[4:37:05] submitted methods.
[4:37:06] Going real quick on the future
[4:37:08] land use map of the subject
[4:37:10] property with a one zoning with
[4:37:14] the inlet one vulcan land to
[4:37:15] the north because he can see in
[4:37:16] the future land use map it's
[4:37:17] all surrounded by light
[4:37:20] industrial the right next to
[4:37:22] the public lands in the
[4:37:23] training center is already
[4:37:27] established
[4:37:27] .
[4:37:28] Moving along to the planning
[4:37:29] commission hearing, staff
[4:37:33] recommended denial due to the
[4:37:33] following conflict of the
[4:37:34] long-range land-use designation
[4:37:35] due to the proposed use zoning
[4:37:37] designation and hot and
[4:37:38] omissions of the elements of
[4:37:41] the gdp that prevented staff
[4:37:43] conducting an analysis
[4:37:43] .
[4:37:46] Specifically with the last
[4:37:46] part, it was considered a
[4:37:50] bubble plan or doesn't show the
[4:37:51] location of any structures or
[4:37:53] uses are.
[4:37:54] Just here is the land debate
[4:37:58] and that's it.
[4:37:59] When it was brought up to the
[4:38:00] planning commission APRIL 2,
[4:38:02] 2026, the proposal was
[4:38:04] recommended approval
[4:38:05] .
[4:38:09] These accommodations are the
[4:38:09] following.
[4:38:10] The applicant had to work
[4:38:13] regarding the buffer system and
[4:38:14] wind of the roads are laid out
[4:38:17] regarding tree removal
[4:38:18] , removal
[4:38:18] of coal from the coal would
[4:38:19] lumber yards as a use of the
[4:38:23] application.
[4:38:24] To work with the board of
[4:38:25] county supervisors between the
[4:38:26] planning commission meeting in
[4:38:28] today's board of supervisors
[4:38:29] meeting to see if there are
[4:38:30] other items on the allowed uses
[4:38:31] that are by right only and
[4:38:34] allowed uses that would only
[4:38:36] need a special use permit if
[4:38:37] any of those need to be
[4:38:40] removed.
[4:38:41] Removing the silo for the
[4:38:42] proffer statement and having
[4:38:43] the locations of the buildings
[4:38:46] were clearly stated.
[4:38:47] Following up with the applicant
[4:38:49] over the next few months, the
[4:38:50] applicant made a significant
[4:38:52] update to the application that
[4:38:53] adequately addressed the
[4:38:54] recommendations of the planning
[4:38:57] commission as well as staff
[4:39:00] identified weaknesses
[4:39:00] .
[4:39:01] Specifically they did remove
[4:39:03] coal yards as a use, they were
[4:39:07] quite substantial conformance
[4:39:08] to the gdp, replace the 20 foot
[4:39:11] landscape strip with the 50
[4:39:12] foot buffer, clarify the
[4:39:13] construction of a concrete silo
[4:39:20] requires a future special use
[4:39:20] permit.
[4:39:21] The maximum building height
[4:39:22] would be capped at 45 feet and
[4:39:26] 60 feet for a future silo.
[4:39:26] The reason we are talking about
[4:39:27] that hypothetical future silo
[4:39:29] now is so they don't have to
[4:39:30] come back for proper amendment
[4:39:32] as well as for a special use
[4:39:33] permit.
[4:39:35] Limitations are added the
[4:39:36] number and square footage of
[4:39:38] any buildings
[4:39:38] .
[4:39:39] added maximum building location
[4:39:41] envelope that I will point out
[4:39:44] on the g bead the.
[4:39:44] Required coronation on tree
[4:39:48] removal and added minor
[4:39:53] modification language.
[4:39:54] Then as shown by the applicant,
[4:39:55] we determined it is consistent
[4:39:55] with all aspects of the
[4:39:58] comprehensive plan pick moving
[4:40:01] to the long-range land-use
[4:40:02] committee updates the applicant
[4:40:07] later consistent with the
[4:40:08] land-use long-range land-use
[4:40:09] designation which aligns with
[4:40:10] land-use policy to an action
[4:40:12] strategy 2.2.
[4:40:20] Specifically it is meeting the
[4:40:21] target building height, the
[4:40:22] minimum open space expected,
[4:40:23] the target nonresidential floor
[4:40:31] to air ratio of up to 0.23
[4:40:32] .
[4:40:33] And then you could argue
[4:40:33] outside the primary uses they
[4:40:36] are asking for would fit under
[4:40:40] the primary uses desired.
[4:40:41] There still not doing the
[4:40:44] implementation zoning seen
[4:40:44] ,
[4:40:45] which would be in two.
[4:40:50] However, they are proffering to
[4:40:51] all the other aspects that we
[4:40:59] would expect from that zone.
[4:41:00] Just for clarification,
[4:41:03] land-use policy states
[4:41:04] densities and intensities that
[4:41:05] promote patterns throughout the
[4:41:08] county and tilt 2.2 states new
[4:41:09] development application should
[4:41:13] have densities appropriate to
[4:41:13] the character and reason are
[4:41:14] consistent with those reflected
[4:41:15] on
[4:41:15] the long-range land-use map.
[4:41:18] Moving to next side to come I'm
[4:41:18] not going to read through ever
[4:41:23] use this is a list of all the
[4:41:25] uses the property would be able
[4:41:28] to do under the rezoning.
[4:41:29] i segmented it out to different
[4:41:31] categories for ease of analysis
[4:41:32] pick the first section or uses
[4:41:36] allowed both in the light
[4:41:36] industrial and m1 heavy
[4:41:41] industrial by right so even if
[4:41:42] they decided they would still
[4:41:46] be allowed to do all these uses
[4:41:47] the following section are
[4:41:47] allowed uses allowed a
[4:41:51] secondary uses in the m2 and
[4:41:54] that would be equipment
[4:41:55] material which is the desired
[4:41:57] use of the applicant.
[4:42:01] This is called outside storage.
[4:42:02] Moving along to the next
[4:42:03] section we have allowed uses
[4:42:07] that of a special use permit
[4:42:10] one of them the fleet parking
[4:42:11] which is a desired use of
[4:42:16] applicant.
[4:42:18] Arborough right in the m1 and
[4:42:23] allowed uses in the m1 heavy
[4:42:24] industrial.
[4:42:33] The applicant has stated that
[4:42:34] he plans to submit a future use
[4:42:34] permit for a concrete
[4:42:36] plan:property.
[4:42:37] Lisa bill the uses allowed to
[4:42:39] occur whether through the
[4:42:43] business through another
[4:42:44] business that leases out part
[4:42:53] of the site.
[4:42:53] Moving right along.
[4:42:54] Oving to
[4:42:55] a community design, the updates
[4:42:56] addressed previously stated
[4:42:57] omissions and uncertainty
[4:42:58] providing a gdp that allows for
[4:43:03] proper staff analysis.
[4:43:04] The provision of additional
[4:43:05] details includes the provision
[4:43:06] of a building envelope, which I
[4:43:08] will show you when I bring up
[4:43:10] the gdp which restricts any
[4:43:15] future building MAY be placed
[4:43:16] maximum building square footage
[4:43:17] is where only three buildings
[4:43:20] can be 16,000 ft.? Smaller than
[4:43:21] the mom picked it maximum
[4:43:26] industrial square footage would
[4:43:27] be restricted to the the
[4:43:28] florida aired the ratio allowed
[4:43:34] on the entire state does
[4:43:35] encourage site architectural
[4:43:38] signage and landscape designs
[4:43:39] that complement the scale and
[4:43:40] plan development in the
[4:43:40] development area the rural
[4:43:44] area.
[4:43:46] There is the gdp I'm going to
[4:43:52] zoom in because it is vain the
[4:44:01] dotted line you see that is the
[4:44:02] building envelope that they are
[4:44:05] prophesying their activity they
[4:44:07] can do can occur within the
[4:44:14] dotted line envelope.
[4:44:16] All wetlands areas are not in
[4:44:23] limits a disturbance the 50
[4:44:24] foot boundary line surrounding
[4:44:26] the property and then moving
[4:44:30] right along in the
[4:44:31] recommendation of the planning
[4:44:39] commission planning officer
[4:44:41] commence approval of rezoning
[4:44:47] 24 001 subject of the proffer
[4:44:48] is dated JULY 15, 2026 for the
[4:44:51] following reasons
[4:44:52] .
[4:44:53] One update stuff determine the
[4:44:54] applicant updates adhere to the
[4:44:55] recommendations made as well as
[4:44:55] sufficiently addressing
[4:44:58] concerns stuff outlined
[4:45:01] long-range end-use alignment
[4:45:02] with the updates made make the
[4:45:08] rezoning consistent with the
[4:45:09] industrial the extrinsic to
[4:45:10] when long-range land-use
[4:45:11] designation that lies with
[4:45:11] land-use policy to an action
[4:45:16] strategy to not to pick
[4:45:17] industrial development,
[4:45:18] development of the industry is
[4:45:19] is exclusive of data centers
[4:45:29] aligns with 12.3 uncertainty
[4:45:30] providing a gdp which allows
[4:45:36] for proper staff analysis.
[4:45:37] As well as an updated proffer
[4:45:38] statement provide clarity
[4:45:39] regarding the project
[4:45:40] aspirations and commitments to
[4:45:41] orderly development.
[4:45:41] This aligns with
[4:45:44] glenn policy enough to stop
[4:45:45] presentation on them here to
[4:45:50] answer any questions
[4:45:50] .
[4:45:51] >> Chair Deshundra: is this
[4:45:52] your first time in front of us?
[4:45:53] Boykin.
[4:45:53] >> Chair Deshundra:
[4:45:54] congratulations.
[4:45:55] Spoke first on presenting.
[4:45:56] I was here for a consolidated
[4:45:59] case a while ago.
[4:46:03] >> Chair Deshundra: tom?
[4:46:05] >> Tom Gordy: thank you for the
[4:46:05] presentation.
[4:46:08] Good job will not.
[4:46:09] Could you go back to the sleigh
[4:46:22] were dark so the comparisons it
[4:46:22] upsets understand the nature of
[4:46:23] the complexity of how we are
[4:46:28] trying to get to the intent is
[4:46:29] was stein designed in the comp
[4:46:35] plan because the limitations
[4:46:35] ,
[4:46:36] the fact it does not allow
[4:46:38] outdoor storage, it really does
[4:46:41] adversely affect the ability to
[4:46:46] meet the comp plan to allow
[4:46:47] outdoor storage as a primary
[4:46:49] use
[4:46:49] .
[4:46:59] If you don't mind this is a
[4:47:04] great slide to show there are
[4:47:11] pretty intense uses makinde
[4:47:12] been utilized but this is a
[4:47:12] much, would you describe this
[4:47:15] activity is much less intensive
[4:47:19] and industrial use in some of
[4:47:20] the things that can be allowed
[4:47:25] to by right?
[4:47:26] >> if you're looking at
[4:47:27] distribution fulfillment
[4:47:27] centers I would say.
[4:47:28] That
[4:47:30] would be a great example.
[4:47:31] >> in terms of the
[4:47:32] transportation aspect
[4:47:33] : can you
[4:47:40] explain describe the
[4:47:43] transportation requirements as
[4:47:49] it relates to activities
[4:47:50] >> what we have on the proffer
[4:47:51] statement
[4:47:51] .
[4:47:56] Proffer 23 they have or intend
[4:47:56] road application.
[4:47:59] The applicant shall be required
[4:48:00] to pave warrington road but
[4:48:02] after construction is complete
[4:48:03] or at the request of the
[4:48:04] department transportation
[4:48:08] restore warrington road equal
[4:48:09] to the preconstruction
[4:48:10] condition compliance shall be
[4:48:12] devastated prior to final
[4:48:13] inspection required approval by
[4:48:14] the prince william county
[4:48:18] department of transportation
[4:48:18] .
[4:48:19] And I am not sure if there is
[4:48:20] anyone from transportation here
[4:48:27] tonight.
[4:48:28] >> Tom Gordy: warrington road
[4:48:29] is a dirt road.
[4:48:31] It is fairly wide.
[4:48:37] I can't remember what we call
[4:48:38] the pave in-place program, but
[4:48:38] there are some issues related
[4:48:47] to that for warrington road to.
[4:48:48] In terms of the ingress and
[4:48:53] egress as it compares to 28
[4:48:54] because the applicant made any
[4:49:00] commitments to use the 28
[4:49:01] ingress egress as opposed to
[4:49:05] carriage road?
[4:49:05] >> not to my knowledge they
[4:49:11] proffer access on their gdp and
[4:49:12] they have right-of-way
[4:49:15] dedication they are going to be
[4:49:15] providing a 20 foot
[4:49:18] right-of-way at no cost to
[4:49:21] prince william county
[4:49:21] .
[4:49:25] But in terms of proffering to
[4:49:26] only of trucks go in and out
[4:49:27] the other route 28
[4:49:29] intersection, to my knowledge
[4:49:35] there is no discussion and I
[4:49:36] don't believe that was
[4:49:37] discussed by our transportation
[4:49:38] department.
[4:49:39] >> Tom Gordy: do we know what
[4:49:40] the transportation counts look
[4:49:43] like
[4:49:46] ?
[4:49:49] >> I think we do have it 62
[4:49:56] daily trips.
[4:49:57] >> Tom Gordy: that is all I
[4:49:57] have for now.
[4:49:58] >> Chair Deshundra: I want to
[4:49:59] jump in because one of the
[4:50:00] questions I've gotten is why is
[4:50:03] there no cpa for this
[4:50:07] application?
[4:50:08] >> that decision was made
[4:50:09] before I inherited this case
[4:50:14] and I would like to send it to
[4:50:20] MR. Mcgettigan to explain the
[4:50:21] >> david Mcgettigan from the
[4:50:24] planning office
[4:50:24] .
[4:50:36] Harrison is a tall guy.
[4:50:40] When we came with the
[4:50:41] long-range land-use
[4:50:45] classification
[4:50:45] , it was
[4:50:46] recognized that the time and we
[4:50:51] had the board initiate zoning
[4:50:52] text amendment to look at the
[4:50:54] zoning to better match zoning
[4:51:06] with the intent of the eye to.
[4:51:07] That is included in the zoning
[4:51:08] ordinance that we are going to
[4:51:11] provide that zoning ordinance
[4:51:11] .
[4:51:13] As an interim use the mount
[4:51:19] dora storage is a perfect
[4:51:20] land-use out here.
[4:51:26] It is lower intensity.
[4:51:27] It doesn't have a law that
[4:51:30] buildings and impacts to water
[4:51:36] and sewer infrastructure.
[4:51:37] This is the sort of use we are
[4:51:38] wanting but it is not allowed
[4:51:44] in the district and we are only
[4:51:45] limited to that when you're
[4:51:46] putting together the chart to
[4:51:56] what zoning districts much.
[4:51:57] We wanted something else and
[4:51:58] that's what we had the board
[4:51:59] initiate the text amendment and
[4:52:00] at the same time they approved
[4:52:00] the
[4:52:04] competency plan.
[4:52:05] How we are handling it is use
[4:52:13] the use of proffering out what
[4:52:17] we intend them to do through
[4:52:19] the rezoning.
[4:52:25] That is why this is the path to
[4:52:29] implement a comprehensive plan
[4:52:30] the conference a plan amendment
[4:52:33] isn't necessary
[4:52:33] .
[4:52:38] This is not going, we wouldn't
[4:52:40] want to change it away
[4:52:40] .
[4:52:42] It's what we want their
[4:52:46] .
[4:52:47] That's why we want a low fa are
[4:52:48] in here.
[4:52:57] No data centers recommended
[4:52:58] .
[4:52:59] We don't want data centers out
[4:52:59] here.
[4:53:06] The kind of use we want, the
[4:53:07] kind of use we want under our
[4:53:08] current zoning ordinance that
[4:53:12] best matches
[4:53:12] .
[4:53:13] We don't want to change the
[4:53:13] comprehensive plan.
[4:53:14] His is
[4:53:15] implementing the comprehensive
[4:53:22] plan we are just having to do
[4:53:22] it with the old zoning
[4:53:23] ordinance to meet the
[4:53:29] comprehensive plan requirements
[4:53:29] .
[4:53:30] >> Chair Deshundra: are you
[4:53:31] concerned at all about setting
[4:53:32] precedents or is this something
[4:53:33] that you think in future land
[4:53:34] use cases you MAY be waving
[4:53:38] that with what is envisioned in
[4:53:39] the comprehensive plan.
[4:53:47] >> I think the way that they
[4:53:48] proffer the uses and that they
[4:53:48] sort of met the intent
[4:53:49] .
[4:53:50] I don't think it would set a
[4:53:53] precedent until it MAY be
[4:53:58] something that occurs between
[4:53:59] now and when we fix the
[4:54:01] industrial zoning district.
[4:54:01] But once we get the zoning
[4:54:07] district fix
[4:54:07] , there shouldn't
[4:54:10] be any more need to do this
[4:54:10] .
[4:54:11] >> Chair Deshundra: so it is a
[4:54:13] one off?
[4:54:13] Supervisor boddye.
[4:54:15] >> Kenny Boddye: go into follow
[4:54:19] the same beat thank you dave or
[4:54:22] how you described that.
[4:54:23] I will restate my question to
[4:54:29] what you just said.
[4:54:29] You are looking at
[4:54:30] compatibility coming to you
[4:54:31] only look at use or did you
[4:54:31] look at a wider variety of
[4:54:39] factors
[4:54:40] >> we do have recommendations
[4:54:41] and therefore zoning districts
[4:54:46] that would they be compatible
[4:54:47] but we are working with an old
[4:54:48] zoning ordinance on new ideas
[4:54:49] and the comprehensive plan.
[4:54:52] Hat is an imperfect match we
[4:54:55] had to make at the time.
[4:54:56] We look at other things and
[4:55:00] they are including very
[4:55:03] importantly the height of the
[4:55:04] fa are the transect in the
[4:55:09] conference a plan they have a
[4:55:10] low fa are in height
[4:55:15] requirement.
[4:55:15] >> to your point as harrison
[4:55:16] said, there was a decision
[4:55:17] point whither should we go with
[4:55:22] the cp or should we not based
[4:55:23] on what the vision was of not
[4:55:26] only the board but you were
[4:55:27] planning commissioner of the
[4:55:30] time
[4:55:30] .
[4:55:31] the thought of what this would
[4:55:31] be.
[4:55:37] Like you just said, the
[4:55:38] decision was this what I want
[4:55:42] to be a comp plan because that
[4:55:43] goes against the lighter
[4:55:47] industrial envisioned by the
[4:55:47] planning commission and the
[4:55:51] board when you adopted the comp
[4:55:55] plan.
[4:55:56] Wanted to ask christina
[4:56:03] .
[4:56:04] If christina wanted to add
[4:56:05] anything.
[4:56:09] MR. Stewart spoke to the high
[4:56:10] points with economic need and
[4:56:15] to the point on the fact that
[4:56:16] these types the yards were you
[4:56:17] have contractors and other
[4:56:20] businesses that don't have
[4:56:21] places to go in the county.
[4:56:21] And you.
[4:56:26] > Kenny Boddye: that?
[4:56:27] >> absolutely.
[4:56:28] Christina, director of economic
[4:56:32] development and tourism.
[4:56:33] This is exactly the type of
[4:56:35] project and use we are
[4:56:41] desperately in need of.
[4:56:43] We are getting inquiries and
[4:56:44] leads from small contractor
[4:56:48] businesses that need the
[4:56:49] outdoor storage and it is very
[4:56:52] challenging to find them a
[4:56:53] saint affordable.
[4:56:55] It was great speaking with
[4:56:58] elder and his family because
[4:57:02] one of the things is to
[4:57:03] understand as a small business
[4:57:12] owner,
[4:57:13] , they are always looking
[4:57:14] for land to purchase because if
[4:57:15] they are going to invest in the
[4:57:21] site they will the surety that
[4:57:22] if they make the investment 10
[4:57:23] years from now it's not going
[4:57:24] to flip over the owner is going
[4:57:26] to sell to a data center and so
[4:57:27] the fact that this is proffered
[4:57:28] out data centers and this is a
[4:57:35] lease opportunity pick another
[4:57:36] challenge with the small
[4:57:36] business owners is having the
[4:57:39] capital to buy the land for
[4:57:44] this makes it ideal for other
[4:57:45] businesses to co-locate and
[4:57:49] grow their business in scale
[4:57:49] .
[4:57:53] I appreciate the applicant is
[4:57:54] making adjacent properties
[4:57:59] available to give this were to
[4:58:00] go through would be able to
[4:58:02] send potential applicants
[4:58:03] .
[4:58:03] >> Kenny Boddye: I have one
[4:58:04] minute 15 left.
[4:58:06] I appreciate you saying that.
[4:58:08] That's the other part
[4:58:09] .
[4:58:10] He is not just doing this
[4:58:11] .
[4:58:14] Is also putting up land for
[4:58:14] other contractors and
[4:58:19] businesses to move in and start
[4:58:20] the first time being able to
[4:58:20] lease a space versus having to
[4:58:23] the point workers trying to
[4:58:28] find helter-skelter places
[4:58:29] throughout the county to store
[4:58:30] their stuff and small storage
[4:58:31] containers and things like
[4:58:36] that.
[4:58:37] Can you talk about thought of
[4:58:38] what that looks like in the
[4:58:39] future if you are able to use
[4:58:42] that in the model?
[4:58:42] >> you said it.
[4:58:43] It is an opportunity for them
[4:58:45] to have the look in the way of
[4:58:47] the older has described it
[4:58:48] think they are using it for the
[4:58:51] storage so they can get more
[4:58:54] business and scale
[4:59:00] .
[4:59:00] We understand a lot of the
[4:59:03] folks storing it other house or
[4:59:10] in storage units having a
[4:59:11] legitimate appropriate land-use
[4:59:14] where they can utilize the site
[4:59:15] and as the business grows and
[4:59:19] skills they cannot operational
[4:59:24] headquarters on site and it
[4:59:25] becomes a model that could be
[4:59:30] replicated to other areas
[4:59:30] .
[4:59:33] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for
[4:59:34] questioning
[4:59:36] .
[4:59:36] Harrison
[4:59:43] , great job.
[4:59:44] He ran away
[4:59:55] .
[4:59:56] This is a great project and I
[4:59:57] say that from a perspective
[5:00:00] give.
[5:00:01] It shows us they are growing
[5:00:05] and moving pickets
[5:00:06] diversification with land's,
[5:00:11] tax base and small business.
[5:00:11] You can't get any better than
[5:00:12] that.
[5:00:15] Away they navigated harrison
[5:00:15] was
[5:00:22] perfect.
[5:00:25] Like the standpoint of you took
[5:00:30] away the big bear in the big
[5:00:38] bear, you know what it was.
[5:00:39] We don't have to worry about
[5:00:39] that.
[5:00:42] You took that out our toolbox
[5:00:42] so you can make a wholesome
[5:00:43] decision.
[5:00:46] When you came in and
[5:00:48] talked about this was it a year
[5:00:52] and half ago?
[5:00:57] Explaining to our communities
[5:00:58] the way they lead this out for
[5:01:02] us and now you worked with us
[5:01:03] not for your own game but where
[5:01:06] you live is critical.
[5:01:07] So christina
[5:01:13] , proud economic
[5:01:13] development are working
[5:01:14] together because that is the
[5:01:18] collaboration we need to see
[5:01:18] .
[5:01:20] It's a win-win and it is not
[5:01:26] perfect but it is good.
[5:01:28] Want to complement you by how
[5:01:30] you work through apricot you
[5:01:33] use the tool we created that
[5:01:34] gives us a sense of comfort
[5:01:39] .
[5:01:40] >> I could not have done it
[5:01:41] without the rest of management
[5:01:43] behind me.
[5:01:44] Not only did they hire me but
[5:01:45] then great experience
[5:01:50] .
[5:01:51] >> Chair Deshundra: that's a
[5:01:56] very good answer.
[5:01:57] >> I am still on probation
[5:02:03] technically.
[5:02:04] >> Chair Deshundra: there are
[5:02:05] no more questions in q. I'm
[5:02:06] going to go ahead.
[5:02:06] I have all these papers on my
[5:02:08] desk
[5:02:09] .
[5:02:10] I will call people up for the
[5:02:11] public hearing.
[5:02:12] For those of you who have not
[5:02:14] done this before
[5:02:15] , I'm going to
[5:02:18] start with the people on this
[5:02:19] page and then we will go to
[5:02:20] virtual and then I will go bask
[5:02:22] in ask the applicant and co. To
[5:02:29] address any questions raised.
[5:02:30] In three minutes except if you
[5:02:30] are an organization of
[5:02:34] 501(C)(3) You get five minutes.
[5:02:35] You will see the screen up
[5:02:35] there.
[5:02:36] That's the count down but make
[5:02:39] sure you adjust the microphone
[5:02:44] quickly say your name the
[5:02:45] magisterial district where you
[5:02:47] reside.
[5:02:50] I see someone signed up to.
[5:02:58] 14 b has been deferred.
[5:02:59] >> part of the reason any of
[5:03:00] the gdp in front of you is
[5:03:01] there was an update
[5:03:01] .
[5:03:03] Would you like to say with
[5:03:08] updates were real quick?
[5:03:09] This is meant to be stated
[5:03:11] earlier and we apologize.
[5:03:19] >> there is a slight revision
[5:03:23] to relabel the yard sites or to
[5:03:24] make it more clear what is
[5:03:30] allowed to be done there.
[5:03:31] Elder informed us a lot at
[5:03:32] times when he is building a
[5:03:33] chimney, and outdoor chimney
[5:03:37] needs a sheet metal sleeve and
[5:03:39] so you would like to do that on
[5:03:42] the property rather than inside
[5:03:47] a neighborhood.
[5:03:47] And so we want to remove that
[5:03:48] from the prohibited list
[5:03:50] pickett's sheet metal
[5:03:55] fabrication that's the only
[5:03:56] change to the proffer
[5:04:00] statement.
[5:04:03] >> staff did read over that and
[5:04:04] we send that over to the board
[5:04:08] clerks as well.
[5:04:10] I believe it is in my office
[5:04:14] .
[5:04:15] >> for future reference that
[5:04:20] would be great to get changes
[5:04:21] well before the date of the
[5:04:23] meeting.
[5:04:23] Some people are working on
[5:04:26] stuff of the last minute
[5:04:27] pickett would be great if we
[5:04:30] got the changes with the said
[5:04:30] ,
[5:04:31] I'm going to move to the public
[5:04:36] hearing.
[5:04:37] I normally call it in groups of
[5:04:38] five but we only have four so
[5:04:41] that is easy.
[5:04:45] Travis plummer, susan, marianne
[5:04:46] we are going to be doing a town
[5:04:52] hall and melody miller.
[5:04:53] Those four people.
[5:04:54] Travis plummer, marianne and
[5:05:01] melody.
[5:05:02] Please adjust the microphone
[5:05:03] because I know I will not be
[5:05:03] able to hear you
[5:05:06] .
[5:05:07] If we can have quiet on the
[5:05:10] dais start by saying the name,
[5:05:14] were you reside and -- let's
[5:05:17] go.
[5:05:19] >> my name is susan.
[5:05:20] i live around the corner of the
[5:05:21] property
[5:05:25] .
[5:05:25] .
[5:05:26] The discussion we had here
[5:05:32] tonight was interesting and
[5:05:38] informative and interactive.
[5:05:38] And I appreciate the
[5:05:43] opportunity to the residential
[5:05:46] community response
[5:05:46] .
[5:05:49] Some of the things in the
[5:05:54] characterizations of the area.
[5:05:56] And is an agricultural area
[5:05:56] .
[5:05:58] These are families, these are
[5:06:00] small farms
[5:06:02] , livestock.
[5:06:07] We have already the public
[5:06:08] safety academy.
[5:06:09] We have fire trucks and police
[5:06:10] and everyone coming back and
[5:06:10] forth
[5:06:11] .
[5:06:13] It is quite a busy road.
[5:06:17] You will see a nice tractor
[5:06:17] because they've gone into the
[5:06:20] ditch to get out of the way the
[5:06:20] fire truck.
[5:06:24] It is barely a 2
[5:06:25] lane rd.
[5:06:26] T has no lane
[5:06:30] markers because I will could be
[5:06:33] extreme.
[5:06:36] It has no shoulder
[5:06:36] .
[5:06:40] There is no margin or nothing
[5:06:40] there.
[5:06:42] This is an area that has
[5:06:44] virtually no infrastructure.
[5:06:46] We live with the wells
[5:06:46] .
[5:06:50] We have small country roads
[5:06:50] .
[5:06:52] The road itself where the
[5:06:57] applicant property is stated a
[5:07:00] gravel road.
[5:07:05] It leads to 28 the 28th side
[5:07:05] there is significant
[5:07:08] development there is massive
[5:07:09] construction on the side which
[5:07:15] would push traffic back as well
[5:07:19] and so I would ask for
[5:07:20] consideration there needs to be
[5:07:22] infrastructure supporting and
[5:07:26] on the other things happening
[5:07:26] .
[5:07:27] There needs to be enhancements
[5:07:33] to make this livable so we can
[5:07:34] maintain our investment in the
[5:07:35] growth we put into our
[5:07:36] properties at the same time.
[5:07:37] Thank you very much.
[5:07:40] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[5:07:40] so much.
[5:07:43] Next speaker, please.
[5:07:53] >> my name is travis plummer.
[5:07:54] Warrington road is a gravel
[5:07:54] road.
[5:07:57] We have the county putting
[5:08:00] gravel on an overtime
[5:08:00] .
[5:08:04] Outing heavy equipment 60 two
[5:08:05] trips a day would add an
[5:08:07] additional burden to it.
[5:08:08] With them about the waited for
[5:08:10] the patient place program.
[5:08:11] The ditches don't meet the
[5:08:15] requirements so that's not a
[5:08:16] possibility and of the heavy
[5:08:18] equipment traffic regardless if
[5:08:21] you are traveling for half a
[5:08:28] mile to the paved interface to
[5:08:28] get up to 28.
[5:08:29] It is a well-worn road
[5:08:34] .
[5:08:41] It is rural farmland.
[5:08:42] Were you thinking MAY meet the
[5:08:43] intent of it by proffering
[5:08:43] out
[5:08:48] the things.
[5:08:49] Leave the committee has been
[5:08:55] working on this to meet the
[5:08:55] intent of, why is that in
[5:08:56] place.
[5:08:57] There are challenges with that
[5:08:59] and so going alternate route to
[5:09:04] meet the intent to commit seems
[5:09:05] like what you said setting a
[5:09:08] precedent of going to the m1,
[5:09:09] m2 level
[5:09:11] .
[5:09:16] We had to fix our language
[5:09:16] .
[5:09:17] Readdress this.
[5:09:18] I recommend deferring or
[5:09:18] denying
[5:09:26] .
[5:09:28] >> my name is mary ann.
[5:09:40] And princeville district.
[5:09:41] Wasn't certain what I wanted to
[5:09:43] say this evening because what I
[5:09:45] would like to say would be
[5:09:46] considered inappropriate and
[5:09:53] disrespectful
[5:09:54] .
[5:09:55] That is a bit much considering
[5:09:55] either tom gordy, george
[5:09:56] everson were any of any respect
[5:09:57] for me, the residence and
[5:10:04] principal on more specifically
[5:10:04] noakes will.
[5:10:05] What you're proposing is not
[5:10:06] only disrespectful but
[5:10:06] irresponsible.
[5:10:07] Your constituents will be
[5:10:08] greatly harmed by voting for
[5:10:12] the application pickett will
[5:10:13] set a precedent that overrides
[5:10:14] protections to safeguard our
[5:10:15] community from unwanted
[5:10:17] disasters motivated actions
[5:10:18] that will have dire
[5:10:20] consequences for our property
[5:10:24] communities and environment
[5:10:24] .
[5:10:24] In the case of the application
[5:10:28] no plans
[5:10:28] , no encumbrance of
[5:10:29] plan amendments are being
[5:10:32] required to.
[5:10:33] Where does cory stewart get to
[5:10:34] forgo the regulation that
[5:10:41] protect us?
[5:10:42] Who's going to talk about
[5:10:43] progress industry but since it
[5:10:44] is different I won't go.
[5:10:45] And so what I'm going to say
[5:10:49] was I suspect the beneficiaries
[5:10:50] of other box members are mode
[5:10:52] invited by self-interested.
[5:10:53] The board of supervisors have
[5:10:56] blatantly disregarding the rule
[5:10:58] set in place to protect the
[5:10:59] people they swore to represent
[5:11:07] an im waiting for when the town
[5:11:08] hall will be announced because
[5:11:09] you are among the behind and we
[5:11:10] could sure use your help.
[5:11:14] Thank you.
[5:11:15] >> Chair Deshundra: next
[5:11:21] speaker, please.
[5:11:22] >> could I try elmo out for the
[5:11:27] first time if you don't mind?
[5:11:30] No worries
[5:11:31] .
[5:11:32] If you don't mind I will start
[5:11:37] talking.
[5:11:38] Can't really say that at all.
[5:11:40] That's the property on the
[5:11:41] national wetlands inventory.
[5:11:45] Sorry pick melody miller,
[5:11:48] neabsco district.
[5:11:52] I got enthusiastic for a second
[5:11:53] .
[5:11:54] On the alamo you can see the
[5:11:56] green is wetlands
[5:11:57] .
[5:12:03] The blue, these tube blue lines
[5:12:04] are intermittent streams.
[5:12:05] 2026 is record rainfall by the
[5:12:10] way.
[5:12:11] While the former supervisors to
[5:12:12] rid us of the wetlands aren't
[5:12:13] in the daunted line boundary,
[5:12:15] if you are intending to put 20
[5:12:20] acres of impervious surfaces,
[5:12:21] you are absolutely going to
[5:12:23] effect that.
[5:12:24] This board is not indicated in
[5:12:30] the willingness to deny this
[5:12:31] even though the 20/40 plan
[5:12:31] mandates preserving wetlands to
[5:12:32] the extent possible this
[5:12:35] proposal directly contradicts
[5:12:39] to give the zoning authority
[5:12:40] under 15.2.Demand substantial
[5:12:46] impact based offers
[5:12:46] .
[5:12:47] I would say starting with a
[5:12:48] hydrological study because I
[5:12:54] couldn't find anywhere actual
[5:12:55] hydrological expert who came
[5:12:56] out a look at this and said
[5:12:57] this is what the watershed
[5:12:57] impact will be.
[5:13:02] And so I would say actually
[5:13:03] talking to someone housing
[5:13:04] someone who knows how that is
[5:13:04] affected would come
[5:13:04] out to be
[5:13:07] the first step in mitigation.
[5:13:07] I will say is somebody
[5:13:09] regularly uses the fire and
[5:13:15] rescue complex and noakes will
[5:13:15] is my first do.
[5:13:16] I staff station five every
[5:13:20] single week.
[5:13:21] We don't turn our sirens on
[5:13:24] because it spooks the horses
[5:13:26] bequeath run silent at night
[5:13:27] because it spooks the residence
[5:13:27] and horses.
[5:13:29] Carriage forward is not a road
[5:13:31] for heavy industrial.
[5:13:36] Carriage forward as a lots of
[5:13:37] horses on.
[5:13:39] If you are going to build
[5:13:39] chimney sleeves, you can't
[5:13:41] mitigate that noise
[5:13:41] .
[5:13:44] That is tremendously
[5:13:45] environmentally damaging your
[5:13:53] taking down the trees but the
[5:13:54] fire department already burns a
[5:13:55] lotta stuff that we are
[5:13:56] surrounded by trees that filter
[5:13:56] a lot of that particulate out.
[5:14:00] You are not going to be able to
[5:14:01] do that if you are cutting down
[5:14:02] the trees to put a pad there
[5:14:06] for light industrial.
[5:14:07] Is he rethinking to the impacts
[5:14:08] I haven't heard anybody talk
[5:14:10] about the noise because that is
[5:14:14] not a noisy road.
[5:14:15] We operate during the business
[5:14:16] day
[5:14:19] .
[5:14:20] If you are going to take away a
[5:14:22] lot of the things that move
[5:14:27] pollutants from the air
[5:14:27] , we
[5:14:27] breathe that.
[5:14:31] We can't train for fire inside
[5:14:36] and so you have a lot of
[5:14:37] legislative options and zoning
[5:14:38] options to demand studies and
[5:14:44] look at what the impacts going
[5:14:45] to be rather than rely on the
[5:14:46] applicant when you think they
[5:14:47] are and I encourage you to use
[5:14:47] them.
[5:14:47] Thank you so much.
[5:14:49] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going
[5:14:50] to turn to see purveyors are
[5:14:51] angrily for remote public
[5:14:51] comment time
[5:14:51] .
[5:14:52] >> Victor Angry: to be of
[5:14:55] anyone remote?
[5:15:00] >> first speaker is rachel
[5:15:00] alice.
[5:15:05] >> Victor Angry: MISS Rachel,
[5:15:07] go ahead.
[5:15:08] >> rachel alice gainesville
[5:15:08] district.
[5:15:12] I request you deny this
[5:15:12] rezoning.
[5:15:14] I received supervisors news
[5:15:18] letter.
[5:15:20] >> Chair Deshundra: can I pause
[5:15:21] you for one second?
[5:15:23] Can we turn that up?
[5:15:24] If he could speak up a little
[5:15:25] more
[5:15:28] .
[5:15:32] Thank you.
[5:15:33] >> I will try screaming louder.
[5:15:36] Today received the newsletter
[5:15:37] which was extremely timely as
[5:15:42] it contained a commissioner
[5:15:43] corner in which commissioner
[5:15:43] justice explained encumbrance
[5:15:44] of plan amendment.
[5:15:48] She stated cpa is needed when a
[5:15:51] proposed change does not align
[5:15:52] with accounting current and
[5:15:52] long-term vision for how a
[5:15:55] property should be used for
[5:15:56] this property is owned a one
[5:15:59] agriculture.
[5:16:00] Letter requesting to change it
[5:16:02] to heavy industrial.
[5:16:05] Everything is owned agriculture
[5:16:06] including the residence around
[5:16:08] the property.
[5:16:09] The comprehensive plan outlines
[5:16:15] the property is industrial use
[5:16:15] transit to come and not in that
[5:16:16] one.
[5:16:17] I consider it to be a more
[5:16:19] intensive step up regarding
[5:16:24] uses
[5:16:24] .
[5:16:25] If this proposed rezoning plan
[5:16:26] is consistent with the
[5:16:26] designation
[5:16:30] , planning, where
[5:16:31] they not just requesting.
[5:16:35] Why does it have to be in one
[5:16:37] and why is the applicant not
[5:16:40] submitting a cpa
[5:16:41] ?
[5:16:41] It does not align with the
[5:16:42] county long-term vision on how
[5:16:45] the property should be used and
[5:16:46] undermines the county planning
[5:16:47] process to allow the change
[5:16:50] without filing a cpa and it
[5:16:52] sets a precedent replications
[5:16:55] wishing to rezone them with the
[5:17:00] comprehensive plan allows all
[5:17:01] planning staff stated is eta
[5:17:01] was initiated but not finalized
[5:17:06] , cpa should then be followed
[5:17:07] for several residence spoke
[5:17:12] about how worldly area is pick
[5:17:22] my concern is I would like the
[5:17:23] language to be clarified as to
[5:17:26] what happens after they restore
[5:17:26] it.
[5:17:30] Especially as people are going
[5:17:31] to use it as an industrial road
[5:17:32] to.
[5:17:35] For me the application
[5:17:37] takes transparency and the true
[5:17:39] intent of future uses pickett
[5:17:40] reads as if he would cover a
[5:17:42] variety of uses without
[5:17:44] actually committing to the
[5:17:46] board with the uses are what
[5:17:48] possible consequences MAY have
[5:17:55] had the surrounding neighbors.
[5:17:56] They should've made to the
[5:17:57] public and I actually want to
[5:17:57] thank the residents of the
[5:18:00] community coming out to speak
[5:18:00] because without their voice
[5:18:04] deny anyone listening to the
[5:18:05] applicant of the board would
[5:18:06] think the whole area is
[5:18:09] industrial and people do not
[5:18:10] live there.
[5:18:10] I'm asking you to deny this
[5:18:11] application
[5:18:11] .
[5:18:13] Thank you
[5:18:14] .
[5:18:15] >> Victor Angry: thank you.
[5:18:21] Next speaker.
[5:18:30] >> our next speaker is alayna.
[5:18:36] >> alayna with the coalition to
[5:18:36] protect prince william county
[5:18:37] so would like five minutes,
[5:18:37] please.
[5:18:42] Might not use it all
[5:18:42] .
[5:18:43] First of all I want to thank
[5:18:46] all the wonderful resident who
[5:18:47] came out to share about what it
[5:18:49] is like living in that area.
[5:18:50] It is important understand this
[5:18:56] is not an industrialized area.
[5:18:57] There are homes and horses and
[5:18:57] it's a rural area we are still
[5:18:58] trying to have compatibility.
[5:19:01] Look
[5:19:03] , I'm not trying to be
[5:19:06] difficult although I can you my
[5:19:08] husband behind me saying you
[5:19:08] don't have to try
[5:19:08] .
[5:19:12] It happens naturally.
[5:19:13] I'm so confused because david
[5:19:17] got up and explained they are
[5:19:18] not rezoning
[5:19:19] .
[5:19:24] We are rezoning.
[5:19:25] I believe this is dangerous
[5:19:27] .
[5:19:28] I'm not opposed to this
[5:19:30] application
[5:19:30] .
[5:19:32] What I am opposed to is
[5:19:35] changing the long range ladies
[5:19:39] via what I would describe as a
[5:19:44] staff because I staff decision.
[5:19:47] Going to read the application
[5:19:52] itself.
[5:19:53] The applicant is requesting to
[5:19:57] amend the underlying used
[5:19:57] designation from a1 to m1.
[5:19:59] And the industrial the
[5:20:04] application deviates from the
[5:20:05] expectations regarding the
[5:20:08] implemented zoning district and
[5:20:09] the inclusion of a few uses
[5:20:11] only allowed in m1, however,
[5:20:13] the applicant is proffering the
[5:20:14] expectations regarding target
[5:20:16] height
[5:20:16] .
[5:20:19] As such, the proposal is
[5:20:23] consistent
[5:20:23] .
[5:20:28] It makes no sense there's not a
[5:20:31] cpa
[5:20:31] .
[5:20:34] Everything dated describes
[5:20:41] proffering should have happened
[5:20:42] .
[5:20:46] You could've done it that way
[5:20:46] .
[5:20:47] Then you would have other
[5:20:47] companion rezoning.
[5:20:52] What this
[5:20:56] does is it allows first of to
[5:20:59] make changes behind the scenes
[5:21:04] that citizens might not always
[5:21:05] catch
[5:21:09] .
[5:21:12] These are exceptions pick they
[5:21:13] are exceptions to the comp
[5:21:18] plan.
[5:21:19] We need a long range land use
[5:21:20] designation not in the comp
[5:21:21] plan that you would like the
[5:21:23] way you do it is you initiate a
[5:21:26] conference plan amendment they
[5:21:29] companion rezoning
[5:21:29] .
[5:21:30] I would like someone from staff
[5:21:34] to explain why they did not
[5:21:34] just to do that with the
[5:21:37] associated proffers.
[5:21:39] You can proffer everything else
[5:21:47] not you would like m1.
[5:21:50] It was more confusing pickett
[5:21:52] is being rezoned
[5:21:55] .
[5:21:57] What else do I have to say look
[5:22:03] , I sent you my email become
[5:22:03] reading from the comprehensive
[5:22:04] plan consistency long range
[5:22:10] land use plan consistency.
[5:22:11] We have guard rails for a
[5:22:15] reason everybody has to plan
[5:22:15] .
[5:22:17] If you want a rezoning to land
[5:22:19] use resignation not on the comp
[5:22:26] plan you have to do a cpa.
[5:22:29] The applicant because cory
[5:22:31] knows
[5:22:35] .
[5:22:36] If you are changing the long
[5:22:40] range land use designation to a
[5:22:42] different use, if to change the
[5:22:43] comprehensive plan.
[5:22:47] I would like someone to explain
[5:22:50] why they didn't just do that.
[5:22:51] Sets a terrible precedent
[5:22:54] .
[5:22:57] And setup for abuse in the
[5:23:01] future and I think this board
[5:23:05] cannot afford to allow these
[5:23:05] inconsistencies.
[5:23:08] It is like saying long range
[5:23:12] land uses residential.
[5:23:16] Milledge, hamlet, rn, r4, r 12.
[5:23:17] It's all the same comments just
[5:23:20] residential.
[5:23:20] He would allow an applicant to
[5:23:22] come in
[5:23:22] .
[5:23:25] Let's say it confirmation
[5:23:31] residential.
[5:23:37] Just give us our four.
[5:23:37] Think you should deny it or
[5:23:41] defer it become the applicant
[5:23:42] come back and do it the right
[5:23:45] way with the cpa and companion
[5:23:45] rezoning and then you would
[5:23:51] have less pushback.
[5:24:01] >> our next speaker is vita.
[5:24:07] >> vita carol rental district.
[5:24:07] I support outdoor storage
[5:24:11] materials here
[5:24:11] .
[5:24:12] 11 the business holder to
[5:24:13] support outdoor storage is well
[5:24:16] within its property rights and
[5:24:23] it makes sense for this parcel
[5:24:24] of what I am having a hard time
[5:24:24] with and what doesn't make
[5:24:27] sense is allowing a rezoning to
[5:24:33] take place think it is
[5:24:34] reasonable to residence expect
[5:24:35] developers in the county on the
[5:24:37] county itself develop lending
[5:24:38] procedures set in place which
[5:24:43] is the cpa process and comp
[5:24:43] plan.
[5:24:44] A special exception for any
[5:24:47] applicant for any project
[5:24:50] rightfully raises eyebrows
[5:24:51] because this applicant
[5:24:52] receiving special treatment
[5:24:53] because their legal team is a
[5:24:54] former county chair?
[5:24:55] If the county wants to allow
[5:24:58] outdoor storage
[5:24:59] , the county has
[5:25:02] the ability to initiate a
[5:25:03] county text amendment to do
[5:25:03] that.
[5:25:04] Bypassing the protection set in
[5:25:07] place and zoning ordinance
[5:25:10] undermines our comp plan and
[5:25:14] undermines the integrity of the
[5:25:15] process and undermines the
[5:25:16] community that you all claim to
[5:25:16] serve.
[5:25:18] I appreciate the
[5:25:20] applicant proffering out data
[5:25:21] centers
[5:25:22] .
[5:25:24] You know what else the
[5:25:27] community doesn't want?
[5:25:28] A concrete plant in the
[5:25:34] applicant has not been honest
[5:25:34] that it is exactly the
[5:25:35] long-term intention for this
[5:25:36] parcel
[5:25:39] .
[5:25:40] In an act of good faith the
[5:25:41] applicant should proffer out a
[5:25:46] concrete plant.
[5:25:47] They should put it in as an
[5:25:48] unpermitted use like they've
[5:25:49] done for data centers on the
[5:25:51] applicant in the act good faith
[5:25:52] should remove the height
[5:25:54] allowance to further prevent
[5:25:58] any loophole that could allow
[5:25:58] for a tower or a silo in the
[5:25:59] future.
[5:26:01] Esidents no longer
[5:26:02] expect the board to do the
[5:26:08] right thing we expect the board
[5:26:09] to do the wrong thing and it
[5:26:09] feels pointless to be wasting
[5:26:10] our time speaking and I think
[5:26:12] that is why there 75% less
[5:26:15] speakers tonight than there
[5:26:17] were at planning commission.
[5:26:26] This community deserves
[5:26:26] transparency.
[5:26:27] We deserve transparency from
[5:26:28] the board of proper planning
[5:26:29] procedure and if a concrete
[5:26:31] plant is being discussed
[5:26:31] ,
[5:26:32] residents and neighbors should
[5:26:34] know that.
[5:26:34] That should be in the
[5:26:36] application and it is not.
[5:26:42] This board is three ethical
[5:26:43] choices per deny the rezoning,
[5:26:47] defer until a cpa submitted
[5:26:48] consider rezoning to an sep for
[5:26:49] outdoor storage.
[5:26:50] Thank you very much.
[5:26:51] >> Victor Angry: next speaker.
[5:26:57] >> our next speaker is jessica
[5:26:58] grove.
[5:26:59] >> Victor Angry: go ahead.
[5:27:01] >> Public Speaker: jessica
[5:27:02] grove from the gainesville
[5:27:09] district.
[5:27:09] i would like to thank the board
[5:27:10] for recognizing that burnsville
[5:27:12] soccer team first.
[5:27:13] And appreciate the recognition
[5:27:14] for all of the hard work.
[5:27:16] Second of all
[5:27:22] , I don't disagree
[5:27:23] this would be a suitable place
[5:27:31] for outdoor storage the problem
[5:27:39] that I have is not doing a cpa
[5:27:40] on the applicant them if they
[5:27:41] knew they were going to be
[5:27:44] wanting a cement plant they
[5:27:45] should a start about purchasing
[5:27:46] a piece of property that would
[5:27:47] allow for the work on the belt
[5:27:48] this the right way
[5:27:52] .
[5:27:53] In the planning commission one
[5:27:56] of the first things as we are
[5:27:56] not going to talk about a
[5:28:01] cement plant tonight.
[5:28:06] That is very indicative of
[5:28:07] hiding what the true purpose of
[5:28:07] this for.
[5:28:11] I agree that should absolutely
[5:28:12] be proffered out that it is not
[5:28:16] an allowed use for this
[5:28:16] property.
[5:28:18] If that is the plan, which
[5:28:20] obviously it is if that's the
[5:28:23] first thing they bring up and
[5:28:26] it is also showing up tonight
[5:28:28] with no notice for the
[5:28:31] neighbors who live there
[5:28:36] .
[5:28:37] I also think it's indicative
[5:28:38] that nobody brought up anything
[5:28:39] about the residents that live
[5:28:41] nearby
[5:28:41] .
[5:28:45] When cory stewart talked about
[5:28:46] the surrounding areas he was
[5:28:46] dismissive about who lives
[5:28:51] there one resident is this is
[5:28:52] basically a dog kennel
[5:28:56] .
[5:28:57] Was a people who live there.
[5:29:01] That they family.
[5:29:01] There are horses, farms, we are
[5:29:04] all community.
[5:29:05] You need to be listening to the
[5:29:08] residence in this needs to be
[5:29:12] gone about the right way
[5:29:12] through cpa and that is not
[5:29:18] been addressed
[5:29:18] .
[5:29:19] I am afraid that if you do this
[5:29:19] tonight it shows the many
[5:29:21] developers coming forward to
[5:29:24] change anyone they want in the
[5:29:27] county.
[5:29:27] I don't know who would want to
[5:29:30] move to western prince william
[5:29:32] county when I have zero faith
[5:29:35] what is in the comp plan will
[5:29:36] stay.
[5:29:37] You should be following the
[5:29:43] comp plan as it is because that
[5:29:44] is what holds us to a standard
[5:29:46] for our quality of life.
[5:29:46] And if you keep taking them
[5:29:50] away
[5:29:51] , nobody will want to live
[5:29:52] here anymore.
[5:29:55] Thank you very much
[5:29:55] .
[5:29:56] >> Victor Angry: next speaker,
[5:29:57] please.
[5:30:02] >> the next speaker is chris
[5:30:02] grove.
[5:30:03] >> Victor Angry: go ahead.
[5:30:04] >> Public Speaker: chris grove
[5:30:05] gainesville district hanging
[5:30:07] out on the principal district
[5:30:08] for football tonight so pardon
[5:30:13] my location.
[5:30:16] I would like to go
[5:30:19] .
[5:30:23] Using the parcel long good for
[5:30:23] that.
[5:30:35] The real problem setting
[5:30:36] a precedent I'm not going
[5:30:39] through a cpa and doing it
[5:30:43] around for the property.
[5:30:44] If we are continuing to hollow
[5:30:55] out the 2030 comp plan pushing
[5:30:56] cpas that don't align with what
[5:30:56] we set forth in the comp plan,
[5:30:59] it's a bad precedent to set and
[5:31:00] it is a bad message to
[5:31:02] overdevelopment were
[5:31:03] development in the wrong areas
[5:31:09] of the county.
[5:31:10] I am concerned because one of
[5:31:11] the parties of this application
[5:31:13] is doing similar in the
[5:31:15] gainesville district where they
[5:31:20] might be doing it the cpa but
[5:31:21] they are pushing for
[5:31:21] development outside the 20/40
[5:31:26] comp plan.
[5:31:27] There are multiple levels
[5:31:28] raising alarms
[5:31:31] .
[5:31:31] I don't think that the board
[5:31:32] should move forward as is.
[5:31:34] It
[5:31:34] either needs to be deferred or
[5:31:36] denied.
[5:31:38] If we have to fix the comp
[5:31:45] plan, fix the zoning ordinance,
[5:31:46] do it the right way but don't
[5:31:47] do the end around for this.
[5:31:48] Thank you.
[5:31:51] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.
[5:31:59] Next speaker, please.
[5:32:01] >> I'm sorry.
[5:32:02] We have no more speakers.
[5:32:07] >> Victor Angry: thanks chris.
[5:32:08] Back to you.
[5:32:09] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you
[5:32:10] so very much.
[5:32:11] We finally got the updated
[5:32:14] proffer statement
[5:32:14] , which I have
[5:32:15] been trying to compare against
[5:32:18] lost one to see what changes
[5:32:23] have been made
[5:32:23] .
[5:32:24] I want to see if the applicant
[5:32:25] wants to respond any of the
[5:32:34] comments you heard.
[5:32:35] Speak I would be happy to
[5:32:35] respond to any questions you
[5:32:36] have concerning that.
[5:32:43] We did make clear any future
[5:32:47] concrete facility smallbatch
[5:32:48] concrete plant requires sep
[5:32:50] approval.
[5:32:59] by this board.
[5:33:00] >> Chair Deshundra: it is not
[5:33:00] the intent to at some point
[5:33:01] have a concrete plant?
[5:33:02] > it's possible in the
[5:33:03] future elder would need to do
[5:33:04] that.
[5:33:05] Again explained that if you
[5:33:10] would like to explain that
[5:33:10] more.
[5:33:11] MR. Ramos, if you wouldn't mind
[5:33:15] coming forward.
[5:33:19] >> to enter the question,
[5:33:19] eventually to have a concrete
[5:33:24] plant you would have the vote
[5:33:24] to do so.
[5:33:25] It's not something I'm able to
[5:33:31] do by right through this
[5:33:32] process current fleet.
[5:33:33] And part of the challenges for
[5:33:34] small business to obtain
[5:33:38] concrete is not big enough to
[5:33:39] get it directly at the right
[5:33:44] times for our customers.
[5:33:45] I have it on my schedule for
[5:33:45] tuesday.
[5:33:49] The weather is not good and so
[5:33:50] we canceled the concrete but I
[5:33:51] might reschedule
[5:33:51] .
[5:33:55] I am about three weeks out so I
[5:33:58] can't run a business that way
[5:33:59] .
[5:34:06] Be 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock agree a
[5:34:06] divine her own way to service
[5:34:07] our customers.
[5:34:07] And so that is
[5:34:10] , I would love to
[5:34:12] have an idea concrete so I can
[5:34:19] do my own jobs.
[5:34:20] >> Chair Deshundra: how much
[5:34:25] would you be producing?
[5:34:30] >> we can pour 3 to 4 patios a
[5:34:33] week
[5:34:33] .
[5:34:34] That would be 40 yards
[5:34:36] .
[5:34:37] 40 yards a concrete
[5:34:42] .
[5:34:43] >> Chair Deshundra: if you can
[5:34:46] step back.
[5:34:47] I am trying to look at the old
[5:34:49] proffer statement looking at
[5:34:53] what I was giving us.
[5:34:54] Dated JULY 15
[5:35:01] .
[5:35:02] You said you are adding any use
[5:35:02] here
[5:35:06] .
[5:35:10] >> the data is updated and take
[5:35:14] a look at the next-to-last
[5:35:19] it refers to the gdp dated
[5:35:20] AUGUST 24 and the only
[5:35:24] difference between that gdp and
[5:35:26] the one in your packet, it is
[5:35:33] just relabeling on the gdp
[5:35:33] .
[5:35:34] To be clear what it is allowed
[5:35:36] and we added the language that
[5:35:38] said and any other use is
[5:35:41] allowed
[5:35:41] .
[5:35:47] That is that
[5:35:47] .
[5:35:48] If you take a look under the
[5:35:52] property uses
[5:35:53] , goes through 80
[5:35:53] of them.
[5:35:54] Originally there were 81
[5:35:59] prohibited
[5:35:59] .
[5:36:00] It was fabrication of
[5:36:01] sheet-metal and that is been
[5:36:06] removed from the prohibited
[5:36:06] uses and that is the extent of
[5:36:07] the changes
[5:36:10] .
[5:36:11] >> Chair Deshundra: I believe
[5:36:14] that was a discussion I had
[5:36:14] .
[5:36:17] Can you explain or about
[5:36:18] fabrication.
[5:36:19] What is it I want to do on the
[5:36:21] scene
[5:36:28] .
[5:36:29] >> I might bring a backup he is
[5:36:29] the professional
[5:36:32] .
[5:36:33] >> to give a quick explanation
[5:36:36] why we need to fabricate the
[5:36:39] metal is to give technical data
[5:36:40] day in my world.
[5:36:42] When someone hires me to build
[5:36:45] an outdoor fireplace
[5:36:45] , he wanted
[5:36:47] to be a wood burning fireplace
[5:36:48] .
[5:36:51] I also have inspectors to meet
[5:36:55] with the county inspectors pick
[5:36:55] one of the inspections is to
[5:36:56] make sure that the fireplace is
[5:36:57] not combustible so I had to
[5:36:58] make it out of the metal
[5:37:02] .
[5:37:03] We will create everything out
[5:37:08] of a 2 x 4 metal frame it it's
[5:37:17] already premade.
[5:37:20] Which could bother the
[5:37:21] neighbors and make him a
[5:37:22] .
[5:37:26] In addition to that we need
[5:37:28] them for the outdoor kitchens
[5:37:30] .
[5:37:34] Also do it for those items
[5:37:34] .
[5:37:35] >> Chair Deshundra: I did not
[5:37:37] familiar with sheet-metal
[5:37:37] .
[5:37:38] And their environmental
[5:37:42] concerns?
[5:37:43] >> on buying the metal and
[5:37:51] bending it the way we need to
[5:37:51] .
[5:37:52] >> Yesli Vega: if he could stay
[5:37:55] there because you're the one I
[5:37:56] want to elaborate and expand
[5:37:57] more.
[5:37:58] Thank you for coming to my
[5:38:03] office we were able to go over
[5:38:03] the questions and concerns
[5:38:12] raised in how you made right in
[5:38:13] and undermine the colleagues
[5:38:13] were talking about a small
[5:38:18] business for us to not confuse
[5:38:21] things or to MISS Lead
[5:38:21] .
[5:38:22] When you are in my office I did
[5:38:30] ask you to explain to me the
[5:38:30] guy wouldn't even call it a
[5:38:31] plan because the way you
[5:38:35] explained it to me was maybe a
[5:38:37] concrete truck loaded
[5:38:38] .
[5:38:42] Another thing was is it safe to
[5:38:43] say if the weld to a certain
[5:38:47] extent?
[5:38:48] We don't want anybody welding
[5:38:49] outside the garage.
[5:38:51] But to be
[5:38:52] fair to say that your work
[5:38:53] involves that somebody is
[5:38:57] asking for a custom kitchen and
[5:38:58] you need metal framing.
[5:38:59] S
[5:38:59] that the type of work you are
[5:39:00] doing?
[5:39:01] >> yes, ma'am
[5:39:01] .
[5:39:02] >> Yesli Vega: I think the
[5:39:02] facts are important.
[5:39:06] We are at a point where
[5:39:07] land-use can be in emotionally
[5:39:08] charged issue but I don't want
[5:39:13] to lose sight of your business
[5:39:14] and what exactly you are asking
[5:39:17] of the board here tonight
[5:39:17] .
[5:39:18] Thank you for elaborating on
[5:39:22] those two items.
[5:39:25] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[5:39:27] stuart?
[5:39:28] >> George Stewart: this
[5:39:33] question is also for elder.
[5:39:35] When it comes to sheet metal
[5:39:37] fabrication you say you don't
[5:39:38] necessarily want to do that on
[5:39:41] site
[5:39:41] .
[5:39:43] How loud is that?
[5:39:47] Would it disturb the neighbors
[5:39:48] where your facility would be
[5:39:51] located?
[5:39:54] >> it is nearly 24 acres in the
[5:40:00] area around me as I trained
[5:40:01] facility and the other is 15
[5:40:01] acres away
[5:40:05] .
[5:40:08] Is probably children and people
[5:40:08] .
[5:40:11] It is a lot more limited
[5:40:14] .
[5:40:15] If I am working there was
[5:40:23] nobody.
[5:40:25] >> George Stewart: I'm sorry,
[5:40:31] go ahead.
[5:40:32] >> part of what you were saying
[5:40:33] is that is not only the thing
[5:40:35] that we do.
[5:40:36] How to buy 10 jobs we might
[5:40:39] need a fireplace.
[5:40:40] Every customer has a different
[5:40:48] needs and not everybody is
[5:40:49] getting the fireplace on
[5:40:50] outdoor kitchens and all those
[5:40:51] things but we are being upfront
[5:40:53] on what we do and so I don't
[5:40:54] want to be looking over my
[5:40:55] shoulder doing something
[5:40:55] illegal and they be like you
[5:40:58] should've told us we are being
[5:41:03] upfront to maximize orlando me
[5:41:08] truthful.
[5:41:11] >> you said 40 yards a week
[5:41:16] .
[5:41:16] I know that we are not at the
[5:41:17] spot yet but I'm thinking
[5:41:21] forward.
[5:41:22] Limit? Yards does a typical
[5:41:26] concrete truck hold?
[5:41:27] >> three different
[5:41:31] measurements.
[5:41:33] You can get an already mixed
[5:41:34] truck that will be 10 yards and
[5:41:40] there is a 12 yard truck.
[5:41:41] You are talking about four
[5:41:42] trips with a mixer
[5:41:45] .
[5:41:46] >> Jeannie LaCroix: four trips
[5:41:46] a week?
[5:41:51] Split correct.
[5:41:52] >> George Stewart: got you.
[5:41:53] And the next question is for
[5:41:53] staff
[5:41:59] .
[5:42:01] Kind of something that is just
[5:42:06] kind of stuck
[5:42:06] .
[5:42:07] I know it was said that this
[5:42:10] was a one-off
[5:42:11] .
[5:42:15] what is to keep someone
[5:42:16] proffering around the cpa going
[5:42:23] forward?
[5:42:24] >> every case is unique.
[5:42:26] Every case is situational.
[5:42:30] We look at that and is the same
[5:42:31] mentality
[5:42:44] .
[5:42:45] That's what we like to say
[5:42:45] regardless of the application.
[5:42:52] Every parcel land is
[5:42:52] different.
[5:42:53] Different uses, different
[5:42:55] considerations
[5:42:55] .
[5:42:59] That is on the staff side and
[5:43:00] it's how the planning
[5:43:03] commission would interpret such
[5:43:04] future cases if they were to
[5:43:14] occur in the board as well.
[5:43:15] >> George Stewart: I'm still
[5:43:16] worried about this setting as
[5:43:22] certain type of precedent.
[5:43:23] >> I wanted to make a general
[5:43:25] comment.
[5:43:26] The comprehensive plan is
[5:43:28] policy guidance help inform the
[5:43:29] board decision-making
[5:43:31] .
[5:43:33] They are not requirements.
[5:43:38] They are requests the go to the
[5:43:38] board to consider making
[5:43:39] changes to the
[5:43:39] land-use
[5:43:42] designations.
[5:43:46] The processes dependent upon
[5:43:46] the request are in the
[5:43:47] applications and the proposed
[5:43:50] development is
[5:43:50] .
[5:43:56] If there is a determination
[5:43:57] through the requester who feels
[5:43:58] that they would like to request
[5:44:01] encumbrance a plan amendment
[5:44:01] .
[5:44:02] If we can look on burns a plan
[5:44:06] amendment would be needed to
[5:44:08] support what the proposed
[5:44:09] voluminous
[5:44:11] .
[5:44:12] not the complication we have
[5:44:16] with applicants.
[5:44:19] There are a number of projects
[5:44:20] where the county received
[5:44:22] multiple cupboards a plan
[5:44:23] amendment requests.
[5:44:27] Mother not
[5:44:29] initiate them.
[5:44:31] They are legal requirements
[5:44:32] they requested the board to
[5:44:37] consider making changes to the
[5:44:41] board encumbrance and plan.
[5:44:43] As harrison noted to come in
[5:44:44] every case is unique and has
[5:44:49] its own considerations
[5:44:49] .
[5:44:50] There isn't necessarily
[5:44:51] everything has to go the same
[5:44:54] way for every case and so this
[5:44:54] incident would this create a
[5:44:56] precedent dealing with a
[5:44:57] particular situation not only
[5:45:00] with the site conditions but
[5:45:01] the requests in terms of the
[5:45:06] future use in a consideration
[5:45:09] on the land-use designations in
[5:45:13] the current zoning an idea
[5:45:14] doing a conference a plan
[5:45:15] amendment to a higher density
[5:45:20] level is not something that the
[5:45:22] staff that was warranted.
[5:45:23] We felt the approach that we
[5:45:26] took to address back there is
[5:45:27] an issue of how do we address
[5:45:30] the outdoor storage situation
[5:45:31] with regard to the zoning
[5:45:35] ordinance but looking at the
[5:45:36] full picture of what is being
[5:45:36] proposed of the application we
[5:45:38] felt that the approach we
[5:45:39] determined were giving the
[5:45:46] applicant is one that staff
[5:45:46] .
[5:45:48] When the application first came
[5:45:49] to the planning commission, the
[5:45:50] planning office recommended
[5:45:50] denial because there were a
[5:45:51] number of issues with the
[5:45:56] applicant at work with staff
[5:45:57] with the board as well into
[5:46:00] consideration planning
[5:46:00] commission recommendations to
[5:46:01] address those issues and so
[5:46:05] that is why we recommend
[5:46:06] approval and support this
[5:46:08] application but again, every
[5:46:11] situation is case specific but
[5:46:13] we did not see this in terms of
[5:46:16] addressing particular elements
[5:46:21] of this particular application
[5:46:22] where we felt a concern about
[5:46:25] creating a precedent.
[5:46:28] >> George Stewart: I get all of
[5:46:29] that but my concern is about
[5:46:29] the process
[5:46:29] .
[5:46:33] I get that it is not a legal
[5:46:42] requirement, but there are
[5:46:43] protocols and a process
[5:46:44] followed and so when something
[5:46:48] steps outside of that, for me
[5:46:50] it gets my spidey sentences
[5:46:53] tingling
[5:46:54] .
[5:46:54] This is a discussion to have
[5:46:59] between myself and staff and
[5:47:00] some other time, but I wanted
[5:47:02] to ask about that not so much
[5:47:04] as it pertains to this case but
[5:47:05] overall process.
[5:47:07] Thank you.
[5:47:09] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor
[5:47:12] gordy
[5:47:12] .
[5:47:13] >> Tom Gordy: if you don't mind
[5:47:16] staying.
[5:47:18] When this application was filed
[5:47:26] , it was early in 2024 and it
[5:47:26] was a case I first looked at it
[5:47:27] and said there's no way I'm
[5:47:28] going to support this case
[5:47:34] because number one, left
[5:47:34] everything.
[5:47:36] It was sinking in one zoning
[5:47:36] .
[5:47:37] It left everything on the
[5:47:40] table.
[5:47:45] I was planning commission when
[5:47:52] we did that, plan update.
[5:47:53] There was an attempt to do
[5:47:55] heavy industrial in knoxville.
[5:47:59] I attended the business
[5:48:00] meetings.
[5:48:01] Businesses from noakes hill in
[5:48:06] knoxville who were complaining
[5:48:06] .
[5:48:07] There's no place for them to do
[5:48:07] the work in prince william
[5:48:10] county.
[5:48:15] They said I need a place to
[5:48:16] place to go compete with data
[5:48:17] centers
[5:48:17] .
[5:48:21] We can't go to wellington road
[5:48:23] for quicken for the rents so
[5:48:26] what's happening.
[5:48:31] Go out anywhere and guess what.
[5:48:33] People are already doing this
[5:48:40] stuff illegally mulder is
[5:48:43] trying to follow the law
[5:48:48] vicki's trying to do it right
[5:48:48] .
[5:48:53] And 2022 if we are going to do
[5:48:58] any industrial it must be light
[5:48:58] industrial.
[5:48:59] We must preserve the area for
[5:49:02] our small businesses
[5:49:04] .
[5:49:06] They are going to culpeper.
[5:49:10] Gases form dollars a gallon
[5:49:10] .
[5:49:12] By the way, you have people
[5:49:16] sitting in trucks not working
[5:49:17] for 45 minutes each way not
[5:49:20] making profit.
[5:49:24] It is hurting our business is.
[5:49:26] If we did a cpa, what would
[5:49:29] that take us to?
[5:49:30] Spoke to and I three
[5:49:31] .
[5:49:32] >> George Stewart: describe
[5:49:36] what we can do and what that is
[5:49:37] truly compatible with what we
[5:49:41] are trying to accomplish in
[5:49:41] noakes hill.
[5:49:48] >> for one thing they are our
[5:49:49] primary use the 93 until that
[5:49:53] would be an issue and also the
[5:49:57] I3 has intensity and height use
[5:49:58] .
[5:50:00] even though this is not one
[5:50:07] zoning in the label, irregular
[5:50:08] in one would allow.5 fa are
[5:50:09] inherently going to dock to
[5:50:12] three, they are only going to
[5:50:17] 45 feet as opposed to what is
[5:50:22] allowed to.
[5:50:29] And they are proffering out 80
[5:50:36] uses
[5:50:36] .
[5:50:37] It is trying to fit a zoning
[5:50:40] ordinance into this
[5:50:43] classification we have.
[5:50:44] The comprehensive plan is a
[5:50:46] guide
[5:50:46] .
[5:50:48] We are trying to implement
[5:50:53] policies is by doing this
[5:50:58] heavily proffered zoning like
[5:50:59] it's it down to the intensity
[5:51:01] and the height and that uses
[5:51:05] that we want to see.
[5:51:09] >> my house taller than 45
[5:51:09] .
[5:51:13] Most houses in noakes miller
[5:51:15] over 45 feet in height.
[5:51:17] Just to point that out.
[5:51:21] This is keeping it below if
[5:51:25] they are two stories with a
[5:51:28] 1212 pitch roof
[5:51:30] .
[5:51:30] What I would also offer is I'm
[5:51:35] not, will going to I3.
[5:51:36] I'm not comfortable with that
[5:51:41] at all.
[5:51:42] This is a case in be careful
[5:51:42] what you ask for because now
[5:51:43] what we are doing is we are
[5:51:46] opening up the noakes hill
[5:51:47] corridor work to have your
[5:51:50] intense use them what we want.
[5:51:50] Because they want to be
[5:51:51] technical.
[5:51:56] At the end of the day this is
[5:51:56] an eye to plan area which is a
[5:52:00] light industrial what we are
[5:52:02] getting is a light industrial.
[5:52:05] Let me ask this question.
[5:52:07] Can I have another five?
[5:52:12] Mental fabrication
[5:52:12] .
[5:52:13] Does that fit the definition of
[5:52:20] m2?
[5:52:21] >> holding up the definitions
[5:52:23] right now
[5:52:25] .
[5:52:27] >> Tom Gordy: they would need
[5:52:32] an sep for concrete mixing.
[5:52:38] That's what we are looking up.
[5:52:39] >> they would need a special
[5:52:40] use permit so they would have
[5:52:43] to come back to the board.
[5:52:44] Limit have to come back and get
[5:52:58] a special use permit.
[5:52:58] >> yes.
[5:52:59] Is sheet metal fabrication
[5:53:01] would fall under light assembly
[5:53:01] , which is part of light
[5:53:03] industrial.
[5:53:07] >> I do metal fabrication at my
[5:53:07] house
[5:53:07] .
[5:53:15] I make birdhouses.
[5:53:16] Now I would ask if you could
[5:53:19] come up.
[5:53:19] Can you talk about what is
[5:53:23] involved in the process
[5:53:23] .
[5:53:25] What are the tools that we are
[5:53:26] using and what are the noises
[5:53:31] generated from those tools
[5:53:34] .
[5:53:35] >> we have our goggles and we
[5:53:37] use a grinder and we cut two by
[5:53:40] fours and then we put it
[5:53:44] together and weld it.
[5:53:46] We created the fireplace
[5:53:46] .
[5:53:48] But a legos together
[5:53:53] .
[5:53:55] You can hear it in a small area
[5:53:58] but when you're in the open --
[5:54:04] that is pretty much everything.
[5:54:08] >> in terms of the noise levels
[5:54:10] in you are using a circular saw
[5:54:12] ricky raising grinders to cut
[5:54:16] metal and nail guns to attach
[5:54:19] things
[5:54:19] .
[5:54:19] Maybe even using an air
[5:54:22] compressor or other types of
[5:54:25] things MAY be a generator to
[5:54:27] help support your tools
[5:54:28] .
[5:54:31] Are those the things on site he
[5:54:37] would be utilizing?
[5:54:38] That is all I have for now.
[5:54:39] >> Chair Deshundra: I have one
[5:54:42] thing
[5:54:42] .
[5:54:43] I said this earlier and I want
[5:54:47] to say it again.
[5:54:48] If we need to get our proffers
[5:54:51] we need to get everything ready
[5:54:51] .
[5:54:52] We did it earlier and I'm tired
[5:54:57] of this practice is for the
[5:54:57] applicant and stop.
[5:55:03] Why is it
[5:55:04] a date is SEPTEMBER 1 and why
[5:55:06] are we getting it today?
[5:55:09] Why are we getting this today
[5:55:14] during the board meeting?
[5:55:17] >> we provided this to the
[5:55:18] staff
[5:55:18] .
[5:55:19] The dispatch had already gone
[5:55:24] out.
[5:55:28] What you have is the one change
[5:55:29] in as soon as you are aware of
[5:55:33] it we sent it to the staff.
[5:55:34] >> you been working with the
[5:55:37] applicant.
[5:55:37] You just decided that was
[5:55:39] something that you wanted to
[5:55:45] allow for?
[5:55:45] >> that is pretty much the gist
[5:55:52] of it.
[5:55:54] >> we have got to do better.
[5:55:57] It might be a minor change that
[5:56:01] we have got to do better.
[5:56:02] Especially for cases worked on
[5:56:05] for a while
[5:56:05] .
[5:56:06] There's a lot of staff time and
[5:56:08] money and things that go into
[5:56:11] this
[5:56:12] .
[5:56:13] I'm tired of proffers coming to
[5:56:13] us during a board meeting.
[5:56:16] that is not acceptable.
[5:56:17] If there are no more questions
[5:56:19] I would like to go ahead.
[5:56:25] Would you like to do a motion.
[5:56:28] >> George Stewart: want to
[5:56:29] thank everyone who has spoken
[5:56:32] out on this for all the work
[5:56:32] that has been done this has
[5:56:34] been a long process
[5:56:34] .
[5:56:37] This has been nearly 4 years in
[5:56:38] the making.
[5:56:43] It has gone through efforts to
[5:56:44] get this thing to the right
[5:56:46] place and to meet the intent to
[5:56:48] meet the intent of the noakes
[5:56:56] hill industrial.
[5:56:56] Lane working with
[5:56:59] transportation to deal with the
[5:57:00] issues
[5:57:02] .
[5:57:06] I have a meeting on thursday we
[5:57:07] will be having this
[5:57:11] conversation because we have a
[5:57:12] current existing problem and I
[5:57:14] think the county needs to
[5:57:20] address the challenges the
[5:57:21] county itself is creating the
[5:57:23] problem we need to work on
[5:57:28] that.
[5:57:30] Then working to try to resolve
[5:57:36] warrington road.
[5:57:40] Again
[5:57:41] , my view I don't want to
[5:57:42] open this up to a cpa because
[5:57:46] we open up the door to intense
[5:57:47] uses and that's not the intent
[5:57:49] of what we want to accomplish
[5:57:49] .
[5:57:50] We want to keep it light
[5:57:51] industrial.
[5:57:53] That is what a comp plan
[5:57:58] amendment would do.
[5:57:59] And this does accomplish the
[5:58:00] intent
[5:58:01] .
[5:58:05] It is for small businesses to
[5:58:05] have a place to put their
[5:58:06] storage and to have outdoor
[5:58:10] storage and to keep the small
[5:58:11] businesses in prince william
[5:58:16] county continuing to do their
[5:58:17] work and have a place where
[5:58:17] they are not having to compete
[5:58:17] with data
[5:58:21] centers for land.
[5:58:21] That's why we do everything to
[5:58:22] keep data centers out of
[5:58:29] knoxville.
[5:58:31] MADAM Chair, I move for
[5:58:36] approval of 14 a. With proffers
[5:58:42] dated SEPTEMBER 1, 2026.
[5:58:43] >> Chair Deshundra: any
[5:58:43] discussion?
[5:58:44] Supervisor boddye.
[5:58:45] >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I
[5:58:45] wanted to thank the folks again
[5:58:47] not understanding your concerns
[5:58:48] .
[5:58:51] Event semi rural world dirt
[5:58:54] road and you are the abuses
[5:58:55] there and introducing another
[5:58:59] use.
[5:59:03] What is going to come next with
[5:59:03] the impacts what have you.
[5:59:07] I also want to thank staff this
[5:59:12] is been going on since pick
[5:59:13] that should not be lost unless
[5:59:13] either.
[5:59:17] I want to thank the
[5:59:18] applicant first altering
[5:59:20] through all this cannot be
[5:59:22] overstated enough that you are
[5:59:28] a small business sector the
[5:59:28] business week retain and
[5:59:29] attract the prince william
[5:59:30] county.
[5:59:35] And so4 in some cases the right
[5:59:37] reasons but wanting to get this
[5:59:37] as technically sound as
[5:59:42] possible we will make a small
[5:59:43] business to go back and go
[5:59:45] through a cpa process which
[5:59:46] could have unintended
[5:59:47] consequences to me since the
[5:59:51] wrong message that you want to
[5:59:52] keep it here but we want to
[5:59:53] make you spend more money more
[5:59:55] time and effort to go through a
[5:59:57] much larger process than what
[6:00:01] should be designed from a small
[6:00:02] business I wanted to say that.
[6:00:05] Wanted do something supervisor
[6:00:08] gordy said.
[6:00:09] I see it under the new hat I
[6:00:09] have.
[6:00:12] Folks are trying to keep their
[6:00:16] businesses, their contractors,
[6:00:17] other equipment yards of two
[6:00:18] options.
[6:00:20] You do it illegally or go
[6:00:23] somewhere else they are going
[6:00:30] to culpeper, they are going to
[6:00:31] further places out because they
[6:00:32] can't do it here.
[6:00:32] They don't like traffic and
[6:00:33] impacts and all the things that
[6:00:34] come up during the development
[6:00:38] but as a cost of inaction we
[6:00:39] are constantly saying no to
[6:00:42] things people are complaining
[6:00:44] about traffic on 28.
[6:00:45] If these guys had to go further
[6:00:51] out enough to drive in not only
[6:00:56] is that a cost of the business
[6:00:57] that since people driving on
[6:00:58] roads because we have the
[6:00:59] capability to have them housed
[6:01:01] in prince william county.
[6:01:02] But also, what is the statement
[6:01:07] to our businesses
[6:01:07] .
[6:01:08] We say that we don't want to be
[6:01:09] all eggs in one basket kinda
[6:01:10] county but if we make it harder
[6:01:12] for small businesses to grow
[6:01:16] and scale, we are telling them
[6:01:18] that we don't want them here.
[6:01:18] We are saying one thing and
[6:01:25] doing another
[6:01:25] .
[6:01:26] We have to continue to have
[6:01:29] tough conversations
[6:01:32] more friendly to have the small
[6:01:38] businesses. I appreciate the
[6:01:39] conversation when you wrap your
[6:01:41] christina, has anyone working
[6:01:44] with tonya and her team would
[6:01:45] go through the zoning ordinance
[6:01:46] update make sure we don't keep
[6:01:47] all these pitfalls were folks
[6:01:48] who have lived in legitimate
[6:01:49] concerns because they're so
[6:01:56] concerned about how it happens
[6:01:57] in this zoning ordinance, they
[6:01:58] are saying no to businesses.
[6:01:59] Businesses that we want to
[6:01:59] have.
[6:02:00] So I want to appreciate and
[6:02:01] highlight that you will stop
[6:02:04] the last thing I will say is I
[6:02:05] know that in a line of work
[6:02:10] that elder is talking about and
[6:02:11] that tendencies he's looking to
[6:02:22] attract, there always will not
[6:02:23] be a one-size-fits-all party
[6:02:24] type structure box is folks can
[6:02:25] volunteer. You MAY not even
[6:02:26] know the types of tenants you
[6:02:27] have a point. I'm sure there's
[6:02:28] some in the room that MAY be
[6:02:32] interested.
[6:02:33] As you continue to have
[6:02:34] conversations about the laydown
[6:02:34] yard, equipment notes, parking,
[6:02:35] we talked a lot about parking
[6:02:36] fleets and where people park
[6:02:37] their commercial vehicles, we
[6:02:38] continue to find the balance it
[6:02:39] would be good neighbors to
[6:02:40] people that currently exist and
[6:02:40] also saying there's businesses
[6:02:48] we don't even know exist or
[6:02:49] don't even know your tenants at
[6:02:49] but we don't want to say no and
[6:02:50] slam the door on them before
[6:02:51] they even had a chance to apply
[6:02:52] portable stop that's the way we
[6:02:53] find a good way forward in an
[6:02:59] area we said
[6:03:00] , we want more
[6:03:01] rural industrial uses because
[6:03:02] the f ar and intensity pose a
[6:03:07] heck of a lot farther into the
[6:03:08] eye to versus I3 and that's
[6:03:09] where were trying to land and
[6:03:26] so at the end of the day we do
[6:03:27] have these tough conversations
[6:03:28] and do it's right by the
[6:03:28] residence and also understand
[6:03:29] there's also businesses we want
[6:03:30] to continue to attract and
[6:03:31] retain in this county, thank
[6:03:31] you mdm. Chair.
[6:03:32] >> supervisor angry.
[6:03:34] >> let me try to be brief. I
[6:03:35] have questions as you noticed
[6:03:35] all of this.
[6:03:36] Waiting through this part just
[6:03:37] make my statement. My chief of
[6:03:38] staff because these bible
[6:03:39] exercises. Let's talk about
[6:03:40] this michael exercise.
[6:03:41] Two issues we have, always land
[6:03:42] use. Everything is always land
[6:03:44] use but the other is we need to
[6:03:45] have a company, a family hair
[6:03:47] was law-abiding and trying to
[6:03:54] follow a process to be legal to
[6:03:55] what they're doing in their
[6:03:56] business. Let me do this in a
[6:03:57] don't mean to be funny about
[6:04:00] it.
[6:04:01] This model here on the east
[6:04:02] county, bracey mobile mechanics
[6:04:08] working in every autozone
[6:04:09] parking lot. Fixing cars. I
[6:04:10] have so many oil stains splc
[6:04:11] all over the place because
[6:04:11] guess what?
[6:04:12] Starting to think if these
[6:04:17] folks at this meeting right now
[6:04:18] they don't want to legalize
[6:04:19] their business because it's
[6:04:20] very tough because we are
[6:04:21] having unnecessary
[6:04:21] conversations about how do we
[6:04:22] clean up
[6:04:22] , trying to legalize
[6:04:25] businesses which is what we and
[6:04:28] I'm not even saying a business
[6:04:29] was illegal. Literally trying
[6:04:35] to streamline the process, grow
[6:04:35] your company, do things that
[6:04:36] are done on site where you are
[6:04:58] working in a facility that is
[6:04:59] clearly out of the way and I'm
[6:05:00] sorry because I know this will
[6:05:00] affect if you homeowners, I
[6:05:01] know that academy well and i
[6:05:02] expand a year there entire
[6:05:03] school's one of the area very
[6:05:03] well. It seemed to me a
[6:05:05] no-brainer this would be that.
[6:05:05] Without it being the regular
[6:05:06] conversation we are always
[6:05:07] having about big business in
[6:05:08] that word data center. I really
[6:05:09] felt this was something that
[6:05:10] would be simple to do and I
[6:05:10] appreciate everything we say
[6:05:11] because literally once again
[6:05:12] you said this before in the
[6:05:13] past, and it goes with what
[6:05:16] you're saying now.
[6:05:17] And even talked about the fact
[6:05:18] we went to that small business
[6:05:21] meeting and found out folks
[6:05:21] wanted it and here we are today
[6:05:22] having this conversation but it
[6:05:25] was kind of long.
[6:05:33] Who enter this michael exercise
[6:05:33] to really see small business
[6:05:34] have an opportunity for others
[6:05:35] to want to move forward and be
[6:05:40] a part of the county by moving
[6:05:41] their business into
[6:05:42] brick-and-mortar in the process
[6:05:42] so I really thank you, thank
[6:05:47] you all for bringing this to
[6:05:47] grow in the county and not
[6:05:48] leave that county and doing it
[6:05:58] the right way. So thank you.
[6:05:59] >> supervisor bailey.
[6:06:00] >> thank you mdm. Chair. I'll
[6:06:01] take the baton from supervisor
[6:06:02] angry. Thank you for passing it
[6:06:03] to me. And I will start with
[6:06:03] growth.
[6:06:04] And we do have to learn and
[6:06:08] grow together as community, the
[6:06:09] first thing I want to say is
[6:06:16] elder, thank you for deciding
[6:06:17] to live here. And to establish
[6:06:18] your business here.
[6:06:21] Because we, all communities,
[6:06:23] small business emulate the
[6:06:28] economy.
[6:06:29] Wherever people live. And so,
[6:06:30] for your vision and
[6:06:34] understanding that and not
[6:06:35] leaving and working through
[6:06:36] from the time you came to my
[6:06:37] office and talked about this
[6:06:38] and that times were like this,
[6:06:47] but, you did not give up.
[6:06:47] It's what I'm saying so thank
[6:06:48] you for living here and raising
[6:06:49] your family here. As a family
[6:06:52] unit, as a father-in-law, you
[6:06:53] are all doing it together. So
[6:06:55] that trust is there.
[6:06:56] And we want to help you build
[6:06:57] that trust.
[6:07:00] And so to my colleague tom, we
[6:07:05] learn from you all the time.
[6:07:06] And you don't say much but when
[6:07:09] you say it is pointed.
[6:07:10] You are on the planning
[6:07:11] commission, that helps is
[6:07:14] making decisions.
[6:07:15] We MAY not agree. But it helps
[6:07:20] us make a decision so you are
[6:07:21] here with all of this and
[6:07:21] constantly show us different
[6:07:22] ways and how we can support
[6:07:24] staff, and the client. And say
[6:07:34] yes or no. Or not now.
[6:07:35] So for staff, economic
[6:07:36] development and planning,
[6:07:37] again, this is an example of a
[6:07:37] collaborate together and from
[6:07:38] the past you in.
[6:07:42] Not in a negative sense, you
[6:07:43] were but not like you are now.
[6:07:45] That helps us make a decision
[6:07:45] also.
[6:07:51] And MR. Stewart, you're going
[6:07:51] to be the gift that keeps on
[6:07:54] giving. Because you will be
[6:07:57] transitioning consistently.
[6:07:58] Your role in the past is not
[6:08:00] what your role is now.
[6:08:01] Just call that growth. Take the
[6:08:05] punches, we give them. We will
[6:08:06] give them but we need answers
[6:08:07] from you.
[6:08:14] So prep as an primus to be able
[6:08:15] to say as to the client.
[6:08:16] Always. But it is growth. And
[6:08:29] then to our wonderful
[6:08:30] constituents they came out and
[6:08:31] gave your views on how you feel
[6:08:31] about this. We appreciate your
[6:08:32] voices. We have to make these
[6:08:34] decisions collectively. And it
[6:08:41] is hard. Because when -- we
[6:08:42] want status by everybody
[6:08:42] always. But it's hard. That's
[6:08:43] why he passed out big bucks.
[6:08:44] You pay us to serve and serve
[6:08:45] everybody not just the spot.
[6:08:46] So I say that not any negative
[6:08:47] sense at all.
[6:08:49] But you say that the process
[6:08:53] that harrison took us through
[6:08:57] was tough. Two years.
[6:08:58] Which has stayed the course and
[6:08:59] you fed us.
[6:09:05] So I appreciate that.
[6:09:09] But that's kind of how I say
[6:09:10] this to you. I'm sorry mdm.
[6:09:10] Chair.
[6:09:17] His every community is
[6:09:18] important to me. So appreciate
[6:09:19] the presentation tonight. I
[6:09:23] agree with mdm. Chair, last
[6:09:24] minute. You been up here.
[6:09:25] That's a transition, just set
[6:09:30] us up a little bit.
[6:09:31] I want to say to elder, the
[6:09:34] community, the business owner.
[6:09:42] Help us in diversifying, and
[6:09:43] that's important as we build a
[6:09:44] tax base.
[6:09:46] So the county is not writing on
[6:09:48] the citizens back to support
[6:09:53] it.
[6:09:54] >> supervisor lacroix.
[6:09:58] >> I reset it when I met you.
[6:09:59] You make me want to help you.
[6:09:59] I'm
[6:10:01] thinking who needs a deck?
[6:10:03] I'm dying to give your name
[6:10:04] out.
[6:10:07] But so often times the county
[6:10:08] makes it hard for people.
[6:10:11] And it does my heart good when
[6:10:13] people are showing grace.
[6:10:17] So you were denied and then our
[6:10:19] staff kept working with you.
[6:10:21] And you know, you don't have
[6:10:24] that kind of success.
[6:10:25] Somebody's really not on the
[6:10:36] other side or on the side. This
[6:10:36] was a success story. We showed
[6:10:37] grace. And you showed grace.
[6:10:42] And it's a winner in my view.
[6:10:43] But again, I will be calling
[6:10:44] you because I will get people
[6:10:45] to go to your business. Thank
[6:10:49] you.
[6:10:50] >> I want to say a few things,
[6:10:51] first of all we came to my
[6:10:51] office, I appreciated the
[6:10:52] conversation and I want to
[6:10:57] support small businesses, and I
[6:10:58] support process. I will vote
[6:10:59] for this because it's a good
[6:11:00] project.
[6:11:01] But also going to keep harping
[6:11:06] on process because people who
[6:11:07] sat in his seat know better
[6:11:08] because when you know better
[6:11:13] you do better.
[6:11:14] Let me make myself very clear,
[6:11:15] process matters. I will not
[6:11:16] hold of a project because of
[6:11:16] process, yet.
[6:11:24] There MAY come a time when I
[6:11:25] decided one vote for something
[6:11:26] because people are skirting the
[6:11:27] process. I don't like that.
[6:11:28] Because transparency matters.
[6:11:29] It's not fair to come here with
[6:11:34] a last-minute change while were
[6:11:35] on the dais. It happened once
[6:11:36] today and he said something,
[6:11:37] say something again.
[6:11:38] Because they keep saying
[6:11:39] something and again there comes
[6:11:46] a point where it won't be as
[6:11:47] gracious. But I want to heard a
[6:11:47] small business owner, I don't
[6:11:48] want to hurt somebody who's
[6:11:49] been earnest trying to work
[6:11:49] with the county.
[6:11:50] I don't want to do that. I know
[6:11:54] you've been through a lot elder
[6:11:55] and been through a lot with
[6:11:58] this process.
[6:11:59] It gets ugly sometimes. I do
[6:12:06] appreciate -- I appreciate
[6:12:07] greatly. It shows you are a man
[6:12:07] of integrity.
[6:12:09] And if you want to be an asset
[6:12:14] to this community.
[6:12:15] But I will say to everyone
[6:12:16] else, process matters. I want
[6:12:22] to get another last-minute
[6:12:23] proper adjustment. I don't know
[6:12:24] how to make that anymore clear
[6:12:31] to anyone.
[6:12:32] This part needs to stop. Again,
[6:12:32] I don't want to hurt a small
[6:12:33] business process because of
[6:12:40] other people sloppiness but
[6:12:41] perhaps it's laziness or
[6:12:42] perhaps I don't know what it
[6:12:42] is. But that I do not
[6:12:43] appreciate. Especially from
[6:12:47] people who have sat on this day
[6:12:48] is. I take this role seriously.
[6:12:49] And for them to make decisions,
[6:12:49] we need to make decisions we
[6:12:54] need to redo everything because
[6:12:55] that's what the public expects
[6:13:00] from us.
[6:13:01] There are a lot of people who
[6:13:03] are upset.
[6:13:04] About this project. We've heard
[6:13:07] them out.
[6:13:08] I've read their emails and
[6:13:08] listen to their concerns.
[6:13:10] I want to do anything that
[6:13:14] undermines the integrity and
[6:13:20] the trust of people placing us
[6:13:21] in place in our
[6:13:22] decision-making, that's why
[6:13:23] process also really matters.
[6:13:24] But again, I'm not going to
[6:13:28] hold up a good project because
[6:13:29] of a sloppy process. I won't do
[6:13:35] that.
[6:13:36] We have a business that's
[6:13:36] needed. You have a business
[6:13:37] that employs people and brings
[6:13:37] more jobs.
[6:13:40] That a data center.
[6:13:41] And we do have a problem in
[6:13:42] this county with having enough
[6:13:47] land for businesses like yours.
[6:13:48] That's a common thing I hear
[6:13:49] from a lot of business owners
[6:13:52] and economic development.
[6:13:53] We also know we need to
[6:13:55] diversify our local economy.
[6:13:56] And so that is very important
[6:14:00] to me.
[6:14:01] So that is another reason I'm
[6:14:02] supporting this application.
[6:14:06] But to keep beating the dead
[6:14:06] horse and bringing up after I
[6:14:10] boarded, process matters so for
[6:14:11] everyone on this day is. Other
[6:14:12] land-use attorneys, process
[6:14:16] matters.
[6:14:17] Okay process matters. I will
[6:14:18] get a t-shirt.
[6:14:22] Put a hashtag on it.
[6:14:23] Process matters. I don't want
[6:14:27] another sloppy process like we
[6:14:28] had tonight. So with that, I
[6:14:41] will call for a vote.
[6:14:46] Vote unanimous.
[6:14:48] >> okay thank you very much.
[6:14:54] We are going to move on to
[6:14:54] public comment on. We can let
[6:14:55] the other people leave.
[6:15:40] All
[6:15:41] right. We are moving on to
[6:15:42] agenda item number 15 and that
[6:15:43] is public comment on. I have
[6:15:44] two people signed up to speak.
[6:15:50] In person.
[6:15:51] I have again, the rules are you
[6:15:52] go to the back, please adjust
[6:15:53] the microphone so we hear you
[6:15:56] again by stating your name and
[6:15:57] the magisterial district where
[6:15:58] you reside. You have three
[6:15:59] minutes and there will be a
[6:16:00] timer so please go to the back
[6:16:16] I have greg, and melody miller.
[6:16:19] I am greg matherne I think it
[6:16:27] is we are losing supervisors
[6:16:28] and that's incredibly
[6:16:29] disrespectful. But besides
[6:16:29] that, I want to talk today
[6:16:31] about cameras another oddity
[6:16:32] automated license plate
[6:16:37] readers.
[6:16:38] The police department website
[6:16:39] spoke to the agency briefly
[6:16:41] regarding the use of alp ours.
[6:16:42] I take them at their word and
[6:16:46] they tell us they are useful to
[6:16:47] solve and prevent crime. The
[6:16:47] reality though is is not a
[6:16:53] question of when, medical or
[6:16:54] not a question of if but a
[6:16:54] question of when that
[6:16:55] information will be used
[6:16:56] improperly by folks. I work for
[6:16:56] a federal
[6:17:01] agency, I criminal
[6:17:01] offense punishable by year in
[6:17:12] jail thousand dollar fine to
[6:17:13] lick improperly look up a
[6:17:14] citizens information. That does
[6:17:15] not exist for the use of these
[6:17:16] cameras. We have seen time and
[6:17:16] time again throughout the
[6:17:19] country at law enforcement and
[6:17:20] others who have access to these
[6:17:21] cameras improperly use them to
[6:17:22] track people.
[6:17:22] We have seen them use these
[6:17:29] cameras to stock former
[6:17:30] romantic acquaintances, to stop
[6:17:31] people they just randomly not.
[6:17:32] We've seen this information
[6:17:36] used to track women seeking
[6:17:37] healthcare because somebody
[6:17:40] decided a women didn't deserve
[6:17:41] healthcare. We have seen a
[6:17:44] systems fail and result in
[6:17:45] people pulled over on the side
[6:17:46] of the road at gunpoint because
[6:17:50] there was an error in the
[6:17:52] system in prince william county
[6:17:52] is employing and contributing
[6:18:04] to the problem.
[6:18:05] Flock to both its camera has an
[6:18:06] accuracy rate over 90%. But
[6:18:07] even at 97%, in our county if
[6:18:07] every citizen went by one of
[6:18:08] those cameras, just once, we
[6:18:09] would have 15,000 errors a
[6:18:09] month.
[6:18:12] flock is scanning billions
[6:18:12] ,
[6:18:13] billions of license plates
[6:18:15] every year.
[6:18:23] Resulting in tens of millions
[6:18:24] of incorrect reports. These
[6:18:25] errors are going to get someone
[6:18:26] killed. And, if you continue to
[6:18:30] allow flock to be used in this
[6:18:31] county, you all, every single
[6:18:32] one of you up on that guys will
[6:18:33] have personal culpability in
[6:18:34] the death of someone. Flock
[6:18:43] might be a tool that can solve
[6:18:44] some crimes coming at the
[6:18:44] expense of our rights as
[6:18:45] citizens to be free of the
[6:18:46] constant surveillance of the
[6:18:47] state. The systems were in
[6:18:48] coprincipal 80 years ago but
[6:18:48] they were the very basis of
[6:18:51] george orwell.
[6:18:52] Big brother when he wrote about
[6:18:54] that in 1984. 1984 was not a
[6:18:55] roadmap. It was a warning.
[6:18:58] And you should all be very
[6:19:00] cognizant of that.
[6:19:01] I'm calling on this board to
[6:19:08] require the prince william
[6:19:09] county police department to
[6:19:10] remove all flock cameras and
[6:19:17] prohibit the use of such
[6:19:18] cameras in the future. You
[6:19:19] engage in during our lives and
[6:19:20] surveilling the people, it is
[6:19:21] unacceptable.
[6:19:22] >> next speaker please.
[6:19:28] >> thanks again, I will make a
[6:19:28] quick close-up my name is
[6:19:29] melody
[6:19:47] miller.
[6:19:48] I was prepared on 14b but I
[6:19:48] want take a moment say I'm
[6:19:49] disappointed in the approval
[6:19:50] you just gave you that after we
[6:19:51] set it for 90 minutes talk
[6:19:51] about how they follow the
[6:19:52] process. You actually have the
[6:19:53] option to deferred after 30
[6:19:54] days, give the public the
[6:19:55] opportunity to review those
[6:19:56] properties that came today
[6:19:57] because I haven't seen them,
[6:19:57] the public hasn't seen them,
[6:19:58] and do this the right way even
[6:20:02] if is not a cpa, you absolutely
[6:20:03] have the opportunity to give
[6:20:04] the public that information
[6:20:05] interactively chose not to.
[6:20:10] Citizens in this county have a
[6:20:11] right to know what the board is
[6:20:12] approving. You extensively work
[6:20:12] for us. So I just want to
[6:20:13] remind you guys they did have
[6:20:19] an option to differ
[6:20:20] interactively chose not to. 30
[6:20:21] days would not made a
[6:20:22] difference to a small business.
[6:20:22] As a small business owner, I
[6:20:23] can say that very truly.
[6:20:24] What I wanted to address my
[6:20:26] last two minutes is to the
[6:20:34] early admission about data
[6:20:34] center development for 14 b. I
[6:20:35] totally get that. I want to
[6:20:39] remind the board again that
[6:20:39] even though you can't require
[6:20:40] certain things under virginia
[6:20:59] code, you do retain full cite
[6:20:59] authority over the site plan
[6:21:00] subdivision plot and building
[6:21:01] permit approval so when they do
[6:21:02] come back since you've differed
[6:21:03] it, I urge you to use that
[6:21:03] power, urge you to impose the
[6:21:04] maximum allowable physical
[6:21:05] conditions or site plan review.
[6:21:06] Conditions imposed must relate
[6:21:07] to public health safety and
[6:21:08] welfare fully authorized and
[6:21:14] include environmental impacts
[6:21:15] on citizens. I asked that you
[6:21:16] demand the full of the
[6:21:16] structure analysis, this is 150
[6:21:17] mw data center. Two new codes,
[6:21:18] 15.2 b
[6:21:18] 20.904 which the
[6:21:19] high-energy's facility
[6:21:26] assessment law in virginia code
[6:21:26] is 62.1 b
[6:21:26] 4438 which is the
[6:21:28] data center use six closure
[6:21:28] also another 64 that came out
[6:21:36] but you can't and you should
[6:21:36] full analysis on capacity
[6:21:37] especially tmj warning a full
[6:21:38] disclosure of water consumption
[6:21:39] impacts on the reservoir which
[6:21:40] is 8 inches full or normal.
[6:21:42] And the great cost that will
[6:21:48] fall on ratepayers.
[6:21:48] I would urge you to bid beveled
[6:21:50] nature on the public record
[6:21:51] environmental financial social
[6:21:52] before any approval goes
[6:21:53] forward also as you demand
[6:21:54] voluntary commitments and put
[6:21:55] them on record. You can't
[6:21:57] require proffers and by rectum
[6:22:01] a I understand that. But you
[6:22:02] can request a public document
[6:22:09] commitments and hold them
[6:22:10] accountable. So I can't require
[6:22:10] them to offer it, you can
[6:22:11] certainly ask them and then you
[6:22:15] can hold them to what they
[6:22:16] promised. Can create a public
[6:22:17] record of what an applicant was
[6:22:22] unwilling to commit to.
[6:22:23] And protect county citizens
[6:22:24] from brainwashing. Again, by
[6:22:25] right does not need direct to
[6:22:26] the community so I encourage
[6:22:28] you to use the tools at your
[6:22:29] review, the power vested you
[6:22:40] under the authority and protect
[6:22:41] our watersheds and citizens and
[6:22:42] future. Thank you so much.
[6:22:43] >> thank you so much, I'll turn
[6:22:44] to supervisor angry for remote
[6:22:45] public comment time.
[6:22:45] >> do we have any remote
[6:22:46] speakers?
[6:22:47] >> yes we do. Our first speaker
[6:22:47] is chris growth.
[6:22:50] >> go ahead.
[6:22:53] >> sorry chris, can you do for
[6:22:54] me to the next person.
[6:23:01] >> okay. I believe we can do
[6:23:04] that.
[6:23:05] >> 'ssecond speaker our next
[6:23:07] speaker will be MISS Jessica
[6:23:11] grove.
[6:23:12] >> this grove go-ahead.
[6:23:14] >> this is jessica grove, I
[6:23:19] just want to say that it was
[6:23:21] mentioned before with the hydro
[6:23:25] property that is difficult to
[6:23:28] find properties within prince
[6:23:30] william county and that they
[6:23:38] are moving
[6:23:39] , businesses are
[6:23:40] moving out, small businesses
[6:23:41] are moving out because they can
[6:23:42] afford to be here and I want to
[6:23:43] remind the board that the
[6:23:43] decisions that have been made
[6:23:44] by this board are what is
[6:23:46] causing that to happen and it
[6:23:51] has been said by christina
[6:23:56] when, several times, before,
[6:23:57] that because of all these data
[6:23:57] center approvals, because you
[6:24:02] are proving cpa initiations,
[6:24:03] the cost of land in this area
[6:24:11] has skyrocketed to levels
[6:24:11] , the
[6:24:12] normal homeowner or normal
[6:24:17] business cannot afford.
[6:24:22] The problems that we are seeing
[6:24:23] in the county for small
[6:24:24] businesses you guys have
[6:24:26] caused.
[6:24:27] And I would like some
[6:24:30] acknowledgment towards that.
[6:24:33] For future cpas that you guys
[6:24:35] seem to be allowing to come
[6:24:44] forward that are troublesome.
[6:24:47] I know I've said this before
[6:24:50] and I'm going to say it again.
[6:24:51] In the western and we are
[6:24:53] dealing with predatory land
[6:24:59] developers that it is
[6:24:59] impossible, the decisions you
[6:25:01] guys have made in the past are
[6:25:04] causing people to flee and they
[6:25:05] are causing people to take what
[6:25:09] they can get and screw the rest
[6:25:10] of the community while they are
[6:25:15] added.
[6:25:16] and I will say it over and over
[6:25:17] and over again. This is a
[6:25:18] community, you guys are
[6:25:19] representing us as homeowners,
[6:25:21] as residents, and as humans and
[6:25:23] the decisions that you make
[6:25:31] should not always be based on
[6:25:32] money or profits for certain
[6:25:33] people. It should be based on
[6:25:33] the quality of life and the
[6:25:34] health and well-being of the
[6:25:37] residents who are here.
[6:25:37] And made it what it is. Thank
[6:25:42] you.
[6:25:43] >> thank you ma'am. Next
[6:25:44] speaker please.
[6:25:47] >> next speaker is MR. Grove.
[6:25:47] >> appreciate that. Chris
[6:25:57] grove, also, vp of the hoa. But
[6:26:02] I want take much time.
[6:26:08] I appreciate your comment
[6:26:09] , you
[6:26:10] don't necessarily want to ask a
[6:26:11] question or go to the cpa
[6:26:13] process as it could open you up
[6:26:14] to more things I do appreciate
[6:26:17] that.
[6:26:18] One thing I am pleased that you
[6:26:21] did
[6:26:22] , while considering this, he
[6:26:23] listens to your planning staff.
[6:26:28] That's great.
[6:26:29] The planning staff you need to
[6:26:33] listen to the citizens, the
[6:26:33] residents of the district. I am
[6:26:36] pleased that you actually
[6:26:37] showed deference to supervisor
[6:26:39] gordie as the district
[6:26:41] supervisor letting him lead the
[6:26:46] way and how that decision went.
[6:26:48] Conversely, I would like to say
[6:26:50] from the last meeting when men
[6:26:54] assess preserve estates
[6:26:54] , I'm
[6:26:57] very disappointed in the
[6:27:04] board's unwillingness to listen
[6:27:05] to the planning staff. He
[6:27:05] listened, paid and really give
[6:27:06] them much respect and value
[6:27:11] their opinions.
[6:27:11] their professional opinions
[6:27:12] because they do this for a
[6:27:13] living. And I also, I would've
[6:27:15] appreciated if you had shown
[6:27:16] deference to supervisor stewart
[6:27:20] because he is the district
[6:27:20] supervisor for gainesville. And
[6:27:24] he was certainly not willing to
[6:27:26] put his thumb about approval
[6:27:26] ,
[6:27:32] his stamp of approval -- as we
[6:27:33] go through the cpa process with
[6:27:36] those, I hope you do show him
[6:27:39] some deference on what he
[6:27:43] believes is right for his
[6:27:44] constituents in his district
[6:27:50] because you will have a lot of
[6:27:51] us peeking out from a personal
[6:27:52] side and from a professional
[6:27:54] side.
[6:27:54] So I just, I want you to keep
[6:27:56] that in mind.
[6:27:59] The job.
[6:28:00] I'm not really pleased with how
[6:28:04] it went.
[6:28:11] The gentleman that's really
[6:28:12] well with his business. But
[6:28:13] also respects his neighbors and
[6:28:14] keep that in mind. Thank you
[6:28:14] all.
[6:28:23] >> thank you sir. Next speaker.
[6:28:24] >> that was our last speaker.
[6:28:25] Thank you very much.
[6:28:25] >> thank you chris.
[6:28:26] >> thank you so very much,
[6:28:29] let's move on to agenda item
[6:28:30] 16.
[6:28:30] >> manager, before we motion to
[6:28:31] adjourn, I just quickly, I want
[6:28:34] ali denied
[6:28:35] , I want to know
[6:28:36] which direction you want to go
[6:28:37] and get the opinion of the
[6:28:44] county attorney.
[6:28:45] I understand your frustration
[6:28:46] and a shift to a certain extent
[6:28:47] but I think that people that
[6:28:48] conduct business in this county
[6:28:48] also need clarity. Is this
[6:28:49] something that we are going to
[6:28:50] take on and are there any legal
[6:28:54] considerations mdm. County
[6:28:55] attorney when it comes to
[6:28:56] last-minute proffers because it
[6:28:56] happens all the time.
[6:29:05] And so you know, to single out
[6:29:06] somebody here tonight, I think
[6:29:06] is to an extent unfair if
[6:29:07] that's the message we will send
[6:29:08] I'm fine with sending it but I
[6:29:09] just want to know what the
[6:29:10] process is if there is one or
[6:29:13] if legally
[6:29:13] , applicants are
[6:29:16] within the right to provide
[6:29:21] last-minute proffers changes to
[6:29:21] this board?
[6:29:24] >> manager members of the
[6:29:26] board, when the agenda is
[6:29:27] published, all the documents
[6:29:28] need to be available.
[6:29:29] But the law the code of
[6:29:30] virginia does allow at a public
[6:29:33] hearing for changes to be made
[6:29:38] so they can be made.
[6:29:39] But I understand the board's
[6:29:41] frustration.
[6:29:44] That it has become more of a
[6:29:44] rule of changes right at the
[6:29:46] last minute instead of the
[6:29:48] exception.
[6:29:49] You are at this time currently
[6:29:56] allowed to accept changes at a
[6:29:57] public hearing. But once they
[6:29:57] advertisement is made, the
[6:30:02] documents need to be ready.
[6:30:03] >> manager, if I MAY.
[6:30:04] >> it did. Thank you. How would
[6:30:05] you suggest to my colleagues at
[6:30:06] if it matters within our
[6:30:12] district that we do our very
[6:30:13] best to try to work to ensure
[6:30:17] we are prepared. And we avoid
[6:30:18] having last-minute proffers
[6:30:19] changes because it does get a
[6:30:19] little dicey and difficult to
[6:30:35] try to make decisions sort of
[6:30:36] on-the-fly. I'll be honest,
[6:30:37] rely on the county attorney and
[6:30:38] her office to be thorough
[6:30:39] examining these last-minute
[6:30:40] changes in appreciate when a
[6:30:40] document has every docket in
[6:30:41] red and the new language
[6:30:42] because it makes it a lot
[6:30:43] easier than flipping through
[6:30:43] seven pages but I think it's
[6:30:44] good practice for us to
[6:30:45] independently take on to make
[6:30:46] sure when it comes to primetime
[6:30:47] land-use applications in
[6:30:48] addition. Thank you manager.
[6:30:49] >> I want to respond to that.
[6:30:52] Redlines, that's because the
[6:30:53] changes. It makes it a lot
[6:30:54] easier to read and picture. And
[6:31:00] that's appreciate it.
[6:31:01] And I know not picking on one
[6:31:01] specific person because I said
[6:31:02] this before. I've been
[6:31:03] irritated other times, with
[6:31:04] this, you remember.
[6:31:14] I was irritated earlier.
[6:31:15] It makes us look really bad
[6:31:16] when this happened. It makes us
[6:31:17] look sloppy, makes us look like
[6:31:18] were not transparent in making
[6:31:19] decisions that at the last
[6:31:20] moment. I understand things
[6:31:20] happen. I get that.
[6:31:20] Ut how
[6:31:21] often is this happening and why
[6:31:22] does it need to keep having?
[6:31:23] And when something comes up and
[6:31:25] at the podium and they're
[6:31:30] making me feel like they should
[6:31:31] not be a big deal, I take
[6:31:35] exception to that because I
[6:31:35] take this role seriously. We
[6:31:36] have people with legitimate
[6:31:38] concerns.
[6:31:39] And so when we get these
[6:31:42] last-minute changes, how does
[6:31:50] it look to the community?
[6:31:51] And I get everyone is working
[6:31:52] with the applicants. But I
[6:31:53] don't want to just put on the
[6:31:53] district supervisor.
[6:31:55] I also want to put it on the
[6:31:59] land-use attorney's and not
[6:32:00] everyone is a land-use attorney
[6:32:04] who comes before us.
[6:32:05] It's also on them. And this is
[6:32:06] something I was planning to
[6:32:09] address with some industry
[6:32:10] groups that represent people
[6:32:11] who bring randy's cases before
[6:32:12] us.
[6:32:15] Because it's something I really
[6:32:16] am frustrated about.
[6:32:20] I'm absolutely frustrated about
[6:32:21] this. I read through the packet
[6:32:32] I trust that everything's there
[6:32:32] and when me with the applicant,
[6:32:33] I like to think we are going
[6:32:34] through everything. And then
[6:32:35] having the last-minute changes
[6:32:36] sprung up even if it's just
[6:32:36] adding more foliage to a buffer
[6:32:39] or native plants.
[6:32:40] We should be doing it at the
[6:32:41] last minute that should be the
[6:32:44] only one calling this out and
[6:32:45] irritated over this. I really
[6:32:48] should be. And so, it's in all
[6:32:49] of us think it is something
[6:32:51] like that I will address
[6:32:52] individually with some of the
[6:32:58] attorneys and industry
[6:32:59] organizations. Because we
[6:33:00] shouldn't keep coming, we
[6:33:05] should keep coming to the well
[6:33:06] ,
[6:33:07] everything's ready to go, it's
[6:33:07] been advertised and the public
[6:33:08] hasn't had a chance to look at
[6:33:08] this.
[6:33:10] It is still a change.
[6:33:12] It is still something that
[6:33:16] people need to be able to look
[6:33:19] at the question.
[6:33:20] So I do get tired of the
[6:33:23] last-minute changes.
[6:33:24] I get very tired of the
[6:33:27] last-minute changes.
[6:33:28] And I won't apologize for that
[6:33:29] because it doesn't seem like it
[6:33:33] will stop.
[6:33:34] Supervisor gordy.
[6:33:38] >> mdm. Chair, I appreciate
[6:33:38] the discussion and appreciate
[6:33:40] the frustration.
[6:33:45] I would just point out it's
[6:33:46] usually not until the agenda is
[6:33:47] posted that the applicant's go
[6:33:48] meet with
[6:33:50] , let's say they will
[6:33:54] go meet with the rest of you
[6:34:05] guys.
[6:34:06] So in a lot of those
[6:34:06] conversations where things get
[6:34:08] pulled out saying hey, we need
[6:34:08] to fix this or that or whatever
[6:34:09] so it ends up resulting in
[6:34:10] last-minute changes.
[6:34:11] After the agenda is posted
[6:34:11] which is where everybody gets
[6:34:13] to actually pull down the
[6:34:14] application.
[6:34:16] From the agenda.
[6:34:18] So maybe, there's gotta be
[6:34:23] , I
[6:34:24] would say we probably need to
[6:34:25] meet with these applicants
[6:34:29] earlier rather than waiting
[6:34:30] until the agenda is posted so
[6:34:31] we can try to get these things
[6:34:32] changed before they get put
[6:34:36] into the agenda.
[6:34:45] I just make that point.
[6:34:46] And because that's where lot of
[6:34:47] the last-minute changes are
[6:34:48] coming is out of the meetings
[6:35:00] with us.
[6:35:00] Which are usually done after
[6:35:01] the posting of the agenda so
[6:35:02] thank you for the conversation.
[6:35:04] >> and that is something,
[6:35:04] patients are coming around
[6:35:05] earlier else are asking people
[6:35:06] to come around sooner. Because
[6:35:14] I feel like it's a disservice.
[6:35:14] The week before is a true
[6:35:15] disservice. To all of us.
[6:35:15] Supervisor lacroix.
[6:35:16] >> I agree that if it is
[6:35:17] possible to do them, but I do
[6:35:18] go back to belmont today and
[6:35:19] right before we all voted on
[6:35:20] that, we had because of a
[6:35:26] speaker, requesting an elevator
[6:35:27] in the community center, they
[6:35:33] did a last-minute grace for the
[6:35:34] community and offer to do it
[6:35:34] and it had to be through a
[6:35:37] proffer.
[6:35:38] So it's a case by case
[6:35:39] situation. But I do understand
[6:35:50] if it is able to be here early
[6:35:51] and I guess you're talking
[6:35:52] about tonight specifically.
[6:35:53] Apparently it never made it
[6:35:53] here in time for this. But I
[6:36:03] think it's case-by-case.
[6:36:04] And that's all I have to say.
[6:36:05] >> I'll stick with belmont bay
[6:36:06] appreciate the developer for
[6:36:07] making that last-minute
[6:36:08] adjustment based on what they
[6:36:08] heard in the board chambers.
[6:36:09] That doesn't happen often.
[6:36:10] That doesn't happen often.
[6:36:11] That's a different situation
[6:36:17] entirely.
[6:36:18] They are hearing something like
[6:36:19] there like you know what we
[6:36:20] should make a change. I respect
[6:36:21] that because that to me shows
[6:36:21] how responsive someone is
[6:36:31] trying to be.
[6:36:32] The only way we get better is
[6:36:33] be hold people accountable and
[6:36:33] we demand better. That's it.
[6:36:34] That's it. I've said before
[6:36:35] previously I don't like it when
[6:36:36] we do last-minute changes from
[6:36:40] the day us.
[6:36:40] They have been less but they
[6:36:41] are still having to certain
[6:36:51] examples the stock based on
[6:36:51] constituent
[6:36:52] feedback. And if
[6:36:53] it's based on board feedback,
[6:36:54] get it to us sooner. Get it to
[6:37:05] us sooner. Today's tuesday.
[6:37:06] I don't want to look at
[6:37:07] something at 7 o'clock. I
[6:37:08] really don't. When it should
[6:37:08] have been to us sooner. It's
[6:37:09] not fair to us. It's not fair
[6:37:10] to our constituents, it's not
[6:37:11] fair to staff. It is not fair.
[6:37:12] People who can do better should
[6:37:13] be doing better.
[6:37:16] And with that, unless anyone
[6:37:17] has anything us, we could stay
[6:37:19] here till 10:00 P.M.,
[6:37:19] >> moved to injured.
[6:37:20] >> second.
[6:37:24] >> it's not debatable, let's
[6:37:30] take a vote.
[6:37:34] >> I'm voting no to some still
[6:39:11] on my soapbox.