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removed

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she
cares next item of business will be the

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second rating of the

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town

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mending the tattoo ordinance
established in the charter

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i'd like to open this up for especially
among the

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council

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see that
prospective business owner is here queer

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a tattoo shop as well
eight percent business owner

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it makes this very difficult you know
it's public second reading for public

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comment but
i would honestly

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uh we should table this item until
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there's the ability to allow
public comment on the final reading now

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that we've seen it
potentially

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where we can uh it's very difficult to
get public

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public discussion today because uh the
meeting

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has been changed to uh skype
sir

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i just contacted your office excuse me

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it's second reading you've had public
comment a couple of other times you can

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certainly have public comment this time
but typically then the council would

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on the premises

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do we have comments in the chat
no no

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any any comments uh hope for discussion
among the uh council or i'll read the uh

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president
president um

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number
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uh resolution to set piece for
permission license pursuant to section

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after work for your tattoo

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establishments

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mr president

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i think that's the revolution to set the
fee

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what you want to do is pass the
importance

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first and then

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the amended ordinance does two principle
things it removes the need for a

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position
on the premises

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and it sets standards for the type of
testing and certification

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that the
operators

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need
other than that it's largely the same

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legislation that's been in the town code
for years

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all right and the copy of that ordinance
is coming over right now so i'm gonna be

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here
she'll be bringing the copy

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all right the amended ordinance is
provided to be

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and read
changes at this moment

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until it arrives i guess we could have a
discussion on if there's any comment

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among the commission before preceding
the vote i would like to have the

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opportunity to read aloud the amended
change to the public

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prior to
voting

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on the issue

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the floor is open for discussion at this
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other than the doctrine

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once i have a copy of it here i can
point them out to you

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in regard to other businesses

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in town every other business that's
located

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do they have to

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sort of register with the town in the
sense of there be it then a permit

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issue for uh
well a price issue for permit to operate

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no no
i would i would like to call for a

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motion to potentially scratch out the
at this

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this
ordinance is adopted i think we should

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at least scratch out the

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requirement this this resolution here
requirement will commit and license

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through the town with the fee of 25.00

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should be required to
pay a fee

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licensed director through the child no
other businesses

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are required to do the same exact thing
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we're going to look at this as a
business and we have to see it in the

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same sense as any other business without
any extra burdens of having to pay

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25
so around while

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operating with any other business
it should be a fair plan for the front

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support
as well so i'd like to call promotion

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for us to dismantle the requirement for
a special permit and charge in town

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can we discuss it a little more
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among the council anyone else that would
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what was that

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at the top

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well that's right this resolution is
here to be voted on the back this is

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fine now i'll talk about

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to
not require the 25 to be licensed

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directly or through the test
that's in here already that would come

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with the amendment
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i would like to well we could require a
permit license or just wait for the 25

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dollars it shouldn't be able to be
required

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right now the ordinance requires
the premises to be permitted

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so we have to amend the ordinance to
leave that sanction

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both for the promises

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permit and license should be required by
people that they should be

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you know their business is required
to pay that fee

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business is business to me
does any change like that change what

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happens this morning as far as whether
it passes unpassed

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if there were to pass would it extend
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if you
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even with an amendment then
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become effective

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i think the reason that we did the 25
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and it is
this is being treated as a different

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just despite this is being treated
differently because they have a permit

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and there's an administrative
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time and after 25 dollars probably not
going to cover it but it's uh

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it was put there because there is going
to be some administrative

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requirements for our staff
compensate for the

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time we're spending on that which is
typical for most any

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um
reason you get a permit for

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anything else just covering cost but
what it takes to town to

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do that and this this wouldn't
necessarily as you mentioned cover that

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cost the
tattoo establishments also have to do

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for border appeals and things like that
so we better take care of that at an

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administrative task as well so
again you're correct that's why the

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application fee 25
that there are going to be

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additional administrative tests
associated with the process it was scent

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like so it didn't really
shouldn't really affect someone

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on the bottom line for 25 i mean
obviously they won't save every

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penny you can in your small business i
know that very well um

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but i think the president has set for
permits and stuff like that to have some

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sort of fee
associated with

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this

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from the original from our original
from the original

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uh presentation
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that was the purpose of uh
the 25 dollar

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restoration fee

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and
he said we don't

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charge that to nobody else

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not for an incoming new business

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so no business has to register what they
have when they when they come in

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no
no we don't have a separate prince town

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apprentice and business license
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one way or the other i'm just asking
some questions to be honest

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also the resolution is it area so if we
could read the

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changes
wow

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uh yes mr wilbur has a copy uh we're
getting copies for the

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i've got a copy now if you'd like me to
go over what's in the ordinance

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so we changed the definitions
to delete the

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physician requirement
and we changed the provisions inside the

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ordinance to say we don't need a
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there is an application
for the establishment that's always been

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there and
there's an application for each

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person who would administer the tattoos
what you're discussing this morning is

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do you want to put a fee on that
application and on that license or not i

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think you should get the application
because it has information right

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particularly information about that
certification

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of proper training
whether you put charge a fee for it or

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not that's up to you
but you should get both the operators

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and the
premises

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of flying it's an informational thing
the town reviews the application

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approves the application
all the information is in it

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if the premises doesn't
uh comply with the requirements of the

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town then the
license or permit would be revoked

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they have to comply with all the health
requirements in

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this ordinance they are the same
requirements essentially that have been

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in this
town code for

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a long time
now the promises have to keep good

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records it has to report infections
everything has to be sterile and free of

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bacteria
it's mainly

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the ordinance is mainly oriented toward
good

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health you might say in
doing the tattooing process

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there's a penalty provision if the
ordinance is violated

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so if you pass the ordinance today you
know with or without a

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fee attached to it that's what that
separate resolution is about setting

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fees for both the promises and each of
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persons who would apply a tattoo

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then you know if you passed it
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it'll become effective i think 20 days

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like any ordinance that's the town of
charlotte thank you mr welder for

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reiterating
i'm curious what we have just arrived as

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the
amended

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ordinance and
party

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main part of the ordinance that i was
looking for is the first paragraph

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so it's an ordinance to amend chapter
140 entitled tattoo establishments of

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vote of the town of prince's ants to
delete the requirement for an optical

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osteopath or physician to operate the
tattoo establishment and require other

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licensing improvements

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to sum it all up

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this time is there any further
discussion

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do we decide on the fee before after
you had pass the importance first and

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then decide on the amount of each fee

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seeing no further discussion at this
point i'd like to call for a motion for

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us
as a council legislative body of the

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conference comprehensive
to adopt indeed and to accept the

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amended changes

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of the ordinance

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with the

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this math way uh
of the 25 feet

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application process always required by
the 25 feet from now so i'd like to call

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promotion to a set
this ordinance

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needs to be two separate things correct
right

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the ordinance is one vote and then if
you're going to put

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fees on that's the resolution
so i'm going to make a motion that we

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offer most to accept the ordinance

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i caught promotion to accept the event
ordinance

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i'm not supposed to accept
i make a motion to accept the limited

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ordinance 202103

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with the changes
is there a second

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i said properly move sorry we accept the
adopt ordinance a minute changes those

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who are favored singapore saying ah
those who oppose same song mostly

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like to make a second call for second
motion to

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about this up the resolution regarding
the permit process with

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out the 25
requirements

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there's two fees one's for the premises
the others for each of the license

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holders that would apply at twos there's
two fees in this ordinance so

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given twenty-five dollars twenty-five
dollars is what was set for the

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establishment
we hadn't received a number yet on what

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it would be for each of the
do you have another copy of that

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yeah you have a copy here i always see
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i don't see that right there's another
blank in paragraph b

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that that's 20 you want that to be 25
too that's fine it's like you think we

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should adopt that resolution the
requirement of the application process

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without any fees and tax okay then you
would not adopt this resolution that's

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what the commissioners
wish it's up to you

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we would put
we would make the necessary amendment in

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the ordinance to remove the fee
for its sign

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if that's the way you go
so we keep

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in-person design tactics
uh written applications

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everybody still does all that
right that's it what we're saying is

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the establishment fills out an
application each of the

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licensed operators fills out
a license form an application form

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what you're deciding do you want to
charge a fee for each of those

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or not

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i'll make a motion about resolution
2022-02

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um would like to amend that
to

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eliminate any fees involved in the
applications or

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hit the establishment
right so if if you're not going to

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charge any fees then you don't need to
adopt this resolution

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and we'll make that amendment in the
ordinance

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removing the need for a fee

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but it's a
important part about the application

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process
well the application process is stated

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in the ordinance we're just going to
remove the need for a fee yes fair

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experiment

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this resolution is dead yeah and there
aren't

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there's no need for it

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all right next time business

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also uh
there are two uh community residents if

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you all would like that opportunity to
comment uh

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you can uh this mean was originally
supposed to be close to publix i've

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never really operate in this regard
and the gentleman who walked in um after

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the media
and to tell you that the town was

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currently at compassionates at this
point

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it means uh supposed to be close to the
public he just cannot say he's okay this

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is a fair playing field and lose apply
to everyone so we can't just that is not

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what you're all i'm just like that's not
what the office said i called over there

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this morning she said there was limited
seating

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she did say that it was going to be
available also to skype then or cnn

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so that the public could have
interactive

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input into the meeting yes
um

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my only question at this point is
i heard something about 20 days

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is that is 20 days the point from which
he is able to start operating

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what 20 days is what is in the charter
for the effective date of any ordinance

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that's right it was adopted today okay
it will be signed when it is signed

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that's the start date when will that be
we've got to make this amendment and

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then get it down to the town so probably
within the next couple days

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okay
and then 20 days from there and then 20

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days from there
it's effective not to be this gentleman

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has waited and some of you are small
business owners

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five months
to get this business off the ground

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five months and he picked here because
he likes it here it's a it's a nice area

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to be and
you've asked a whole lot of them to try

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to be patient
and

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20 days is 20 days is 20 days and we
just we want to have some clarity here

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about when this is going to be so i
appreciate your time

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and
i'm assuming that within the next

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25 days he can be up and running is
there anything else he needs to

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do uh just give me one second i have a
question for you sure mr wilbur

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uh these are many changes that have to
be made which

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are that
will delay the entire thing but we were

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to pass this
resolution today requiring a 25 fee we

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would be able to sign this form now not
not lead to our changes on the outcomes

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town manager says there's also a board
of appeals

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process ongoing which is completely
separate

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how does that if we've got the ordinance
in place and it's

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why would there be a work of appeals
explain that to me

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and i also want to know um
now that it's passed or we've approved

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it
how soon can those applications be

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available for them i mean are we going
to be able to get all this stuff done if

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he's got to wait another 20 days will he
be able to have the applications filled

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out prior to that and
we didn't get these guys started in

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twenty-two should have been what this
young lady said

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i think
well we understand that i mean we

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understand
what's being said but

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you we
got to remember you

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you have a counselor that meets once a
month

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and you're making a major uh
on this

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uh we're making a major change right but
this came with this cam was kicked down

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the road several times i don't think it
was kicked down the road

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it's going through the administrative
process

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okay so because it's in the c2 all right
so the bottom line is mr wilbur upon

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signing these documents and he'll be
able to operate 20 days after that no

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because there's a special exception now
we're in a totally different area

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which is um
so because he's in the c2 district it's

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a special exception which requires him
to go before the board of appeals

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what is that process
he would make an application to the

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board of appeals the board of appeals um
i would

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contact the members of the board of
appeals and we would we would have to

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advertise that and they could meet
the earliest uh

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30 days so we had to advertise it and
then they would meet

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and then uh
he would go before the board of appeals

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at that time
and then that's a process after that too

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well after that once he's approved that
there are conditions

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he would have to meet those conditions
so essentially

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you do not want him to open business in
prince's anne

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mr does the council have the ability to
override that and sort of allow

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allowance by the party

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the zoning code special exceptions go to
the board of appeals

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that's
completely separate is what the

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commission i didn't know the accounts
could allow operation until the meeting

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expired
no

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it does seem that we could
possibly get that board of appeals moved

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up a little sooner than 30 days is
it can while this 20-day period is

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moving i think we should move forward
with the special exception absolutely

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but i'm saying
we've got 20 days because of the charter

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we can't deal with why can't we have
that board of appeals prior to that 20

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days or within around the same time
so that basically within 20 days if

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we've got the applications filled out
everything goes through before the

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fields happens
that

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he doesn't he's not waiting another 30
days after 20 days or whatever that's

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what it seems like it's getting to you
stop start the process on the board of

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appeals right now
have a move concurrently right

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but does it have to be 30 days you said
30 days for the board of appeals to meet

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that doesn't seem
well what tip of this one is if we need

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to move it up it could be some other
things i believe there could be a

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meeting with the world
since next week

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to be determined may take a couple weeks
but we've got 20 days let's do it with

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that in 20 days
right and advertise and get it done

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within the 20 days and that way we're
not extending past that i mean i've got

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a hand right here
i've got a i've got a business license

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signed by the town princess zane about
five signatures on it i paid money for

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it and i'm wondering
why i had to get that and do all that

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stuff if i haven't been able to do
business in it yet i mean it went it

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touched everybody's office

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what you're running into now i had to go
through the same thing before with my

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business that i had but you're running
into problems with zoom so that's

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if you were in a district with your
business license that if you were in a

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zoned area that would allow that you're
just in another area that's zone that

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has that so you would have to get a
special reception from the climate zone

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in addition to the business there are
certain locations in town that you are

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allowed to operate in without having to
go through that procedure

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it's just it's his own problem now that
you're right

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and that's the problem that that's the
problem with the way the town charters

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set up historically
and it'll be great for a business that i

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had to
operate uh i had to go through planning

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this only especially
to be

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you have to go through it but i'm just
trying to see if there's um

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i mean we don't

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i thought we were going to treat every
business that tries to come into town

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we're going to we're going to make them
wait five six months to be able to get

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through they've got something i just
think we need to

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try to wrap this thing up again biggest
thing is scheduling

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who is the person
that is going to be responsible

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for contacting
is it robert is

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the town manager so what will happen is
after today's meeting i will contact the

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members of the board of appeals
get their earliest availability we'll

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start the
advertising

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process from there and then i'll set a
date

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do we have the applications available
for the business and the

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oh that's your artist
yes we can have those those available

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yes
well you can get those filled out and be

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prepared they're ready
as well

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so you all should at this point how you
should a communication with the town

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office and the town manager he's the one
responsible for the timing of this

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scheduling
and then you are out of it from this

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point forward it would just be the
zoning

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but the biggest benefit that you do have
upon dealing with planning zones is that

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the calculated class changes amendment
charter that allows tattoo

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shops to operate without positions so
that's huge

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for
for you guys going to present to work

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so hopefully they'll rule in your
favorites

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does your office take visitors
do you are you open for people every day

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um yes also he's he's going to schedule
the closed session meeting tonight he's

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supposed to be at six o'clock publicly
so he has a lot of discretion

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management aspect of things
as i was saying before

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we proceeded for the next time the
business of this was this over

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the public portion of it was closed as
jeremy walker afterwards

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mr garnett said it's okay for him to be
in here but this meeting is supposed to

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be
not to rule out the set board by our

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time management
so this time sir i would like to excuse

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you from the meeting because it was
close to the public it was scheduled to

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be exposed to the public and only
virtually either

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facebook page
i wear full contacts that's on this

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before i disagree

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next your next one
will be

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is there is there any recourse that aos
have or does he get to decide the

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meeting was close to the public show
that's the law mr return now if you want

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to have lawsuits coming to the town from
the community where others were allowed

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to attend and they weren't and
that's a serious problem but immediately

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scheduled to be closed it was
advertisement account facebook page

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webpage that the founder called me was
close to the public reversal

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if that's the way it was set up and
advertised to the public then

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it should be closed
down through zoom

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why didn't why did your office just tell
me that there were limited seats

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available either i sent an email off and
said this meeting should have been

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scheduled in the evening so the public
should have had the discretion be able

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to attend public meetings as they should
be should not have been at nine o'clock

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correct because the public is at work
right

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meaning
i have been advertised that's kind of

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very fair
i'm just going to be a fair person

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doesn't matter i don't care who likes it
or not but fair is fair

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i wouldn't use the word closed i would
say the public can attend by zoom

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00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:47,840
it's an open public meeting attendance
by zoom yes sir correct

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electric direct yes sir
i've actually got to believe is there

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anywhere yeah

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to all this but
and i know you're trying to do your best

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but
it there's

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there's just so much
that i'm very concerned about

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i mean
you show up here and on this as a motion

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a second reading of a tattoo ordinance
however

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00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:46,399
the ordinance wasn't even here
you had to send your assistant

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to go make copies for every single
person here

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what was the plan
i accept responsibility what was the

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plan going to be if that was not what
was out here ma'am the the ordinance

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should have been here and i accept
responsibility for not being here but

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the ordinance should have been here
and the copies were not present so that

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is on me and i accept responsibility
well i'll tell you the honest truth

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i've lived here a long time and i lived
away

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and i'm back
and i told robert when he first

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told me what he was interested in the
first thing i said is you need to hire a

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bulldog attorney
because they're going to drag it out and

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drag it out and he said no no
i need to work with these people

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and i need to work with these people in
this town

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and

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i'm five months later i take offense i
take offense

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your comment
i should say sitting at this table

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i'm not here to listen somebody said i
purposely drag on dragon on something

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when we meet monthly
trying to

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00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,359
uh feel about the goodness of this
family

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shouldn't take this long the federal
government moves faster than this

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,599
the federal government can move faster
than this and that's saying something it

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00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:08,880
should not take this long i have a right
to say that

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as a constituent in this county
things should not take this long the

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fact that we walked in here
and the paperwork was not here

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for something that is on this agenda is
inexcusable

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i have an issue with it
i hope you're taking notes

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i feel like at this point and i
appreciate mr town manager that you're

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going to move forward with this but
this needs to be taken care of and it

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00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,880
it's not fair
it's just not being fair that's all i

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:44,000
have to say and i do appreciate your
time and everything all the every all

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the work i know it's a lot of work i
appreciate everything you've done it's

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00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,000
just
it shouldn't it should it shouldn't be

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like this i've been in a lot of
different places and i see how things go

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and i understand
how

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administration should work and it just
seems like that it's

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it's not cohesive

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that's and i guess that's it for us so
um i'll wait to hear from the town

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manager
oh god

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i'm lynn powell
it's been hard for me to come to these

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meetings
and not speak

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:28,079
some of you are maybe retired
some of you aren't i think you all have

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income
you all have income of some kind

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robert has had no grants

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:42,000
he has worked hard to save his money for
this opportunity

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he is a constituent and i've heard
several of you say

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you're worried about your constituent he
is a constituent

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00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,880
no
income

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all this time he hangs on he hangs on he
hangs on

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no this is not fair it is not supposed
to work this way

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it is not
this is not looking after the welfare

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00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,760
of the people who live here and the
people who want to move here

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now i have plans about a business here
you know something i think i need to

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00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:29,280
scrap it
because i wouldn't wait this long

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i'm trying to be supportive of him
and like her i'm thinking

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00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:39,280
just from the first month
he needed to get an attorney walk away

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00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:43,119
and let the attorney handle it
but he was trying to save his you know

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financial resources
he shouldn't have to get an attorney

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00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,480
for something really this simple
it seems so simple

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and yet
here we are

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here we are
so i just have to say how i feel no

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income and it's like
no concern

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00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,560
thank you

471
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:29,839
all right have the next item of business
of the arp business assistance

472
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,839
resolution

473
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,320
at this time like the attorney meeting
over vice president

474
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,000
actually taking the pundits
forward the resolution number

475
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,000
20
2201

476
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:10,319
and uh you want to
read to this uh

477
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,839
mr attorney george you want me to read
it or do you want to read it

478
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,720
it's a resolution of the president and
town commissioners of the town president

479
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:25,760
to allocate funds from the american
rescue plan to respond to public health

480
00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:29,680
emergencies and to meet urgent community
needs because of the economic impact of

481
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:33,920
cobalt 19 whereas
funds are available to the town of

482
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:37,599
princeton under the american rescue plan
which can be allocated to meet the

483
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,040
urgent needs of community because of
negative

484
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:46,240
economic impact with coke at 19 and
whereas the american rescue plan

485
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:49,440
award funds are designed to respond to
public health emergencies and meet

486
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,119
urgent
community needs

487
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:58,000
and whereas the community commissioners
of the town presenting desire to provide

488
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:01,920
economic support and the need for small
businesses

489
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:06,640
located and registered with the town of
princess and and whereas the maximum

490
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,359
benefit to a small business shall not
exceed

491
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:13,440
two thousand
five hundred

492
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:16,960
two thousand five hundred per business
advocate

493
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,680
and whereas the maximum allocation for
small business

494
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:24,480
shall not
exceed 125 thousand dollars

495
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,920
now therefore had been resolved by
president commissioners of

496
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:31,040
princess zane
have determined that the community and

497
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,720
citizens of town princess am would
benefit

498
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:39,280
from the american rescue plan award fund
to provide economic support

499
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:44,000
and relief to small businesses
located and registered within the town

500
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:48,640
of furniture as far as
business applicant must employ 10 people

501
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,359
or less
business applicant must

502
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:57,440
be registered with the state of maryland
state of maryland

503
00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:03,839
or somerset county as a business in the
corporate boundaries of the town of

504
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:07,359
prince's land prior to august 1st 2021
business after must be in good financial

505
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:13,520
standing
with the town of princess lane without

506
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:18,560
any any outstanding bills taxes or liens
business applicant must provide

507
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:22,720
government-issued photo identification
business applicant must provide a copy

508
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,839
or business license
if any african owned

509
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:32,800
if an applicant owns multiple businesses
only one business

510
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:37,200
shall be eligible for a benefit
non-profit corporations and community

511
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:42,560
organizations did not qualify for the
for the benefit

512
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,440
the benefit shall be 2 500
per

513
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,560
business to be eligible
business advocate must file an

514
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,240
application by
march 1st 2022.

515
00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:57,359
the above resolution was introduced and
read past regular meeting

516
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,800
of
and president and commissioners

517
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,000
of
princeton on

518
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:08,240
land day
of

519
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:15,599
2022 and should become effective
immediately upon adoption what is your

520
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,599
are there any discussions

521
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:24,839
we already discussed here because march
1st now that we're almost into february

522
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,720
it was march 1st
um enough time

523
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:36,720
get the application in
i would

524
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,720
i would say march first would yes

525
00:43:37,090 --> 00:43:40,159
[Music]

526
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,359
how would this be promoted
by you know i would i'm sorry i

527
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,599
apologize for that i would i would think
we would need more time besides march

528
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:54,720
1st because we've got to advertise
and

529
00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:59,680
um people time for the word to spread a
little bit i mean

530
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:04,720
that would be 100
well i would say probably um

531
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,960
may i i would say probably june at the
very latest

532
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,440
to give people an opportunity to apply
for junior first

533
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,839
so they'll have from okay the past that
they do have from

534
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,839
uh

535
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,640
what dates to what days
march

536
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:39,119
right two o'clock so they would from i
guess the date the resolution passes

537
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:39,119
until uh june june

538
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:44,960
to apply
so that gives everyone at least four

539
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:50,480
four to five months to get their
application

540
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,480
and it gives us an opportunity to

541
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,280
one of the things i'm looking at doing
with this is

542
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:05,920
having a mailer sent out to all of the
all of the

543
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:10,160
businesses so it gives us time to
to do that advertise via social media

544
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,280
and things like that so
i would say june 1st is good

545
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,839
you know with anything else

546
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,760
the election with the first that it
won't happen

547
00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:58,520
any question about processes

548
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,839
so to be make me
make this clear

549
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:13,200
clear understand you can if you have
multiple business you cannot get only

550
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
one only one

551
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:43,480
myself from the initial

552
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,560
any other question
discussion

553
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:59,839
do you have anything
uh

554
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:04,079
i think you should move if you want to
make a tune first then you should

555
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:10,720
and if
two of you are going to accuse then the

556
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:15,920
vote would be
by the other three which is a quorum and

557
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:15,920
majority

558
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,520
something about changing the date is he
allowed to do that

559
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:26,800
no
both of you should not participate in

560
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:31,839
any voting on this well well you know
well even the recommendation of changing

561
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:35,119
the date to june 1st or whatever march
the 1st of june versus this statement

562
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:38,880
that he just made
started that whole conversation is he

563
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,880
allowed

564
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,480
dale you had a
question

565
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,480
also about today
you know i i just looked it up because i

566
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:04,000
was i said i i know people will be on
like the same thing as day before the

567
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,480
election
or whatever but apparently the election

568
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:12,480
will be on june the 7th first
of the month

569
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,440
so
it's still a whole lot like a whole week

570
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:20,240
you know
anyway i didn't want everything before

571
00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:23,599
together so you know like crunch time
somebody decided to put education at

572
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,160
last minute or
something or they try to get stuff you

573
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:30,720
know organized whatever so i think that
so i think junior first would be good

574
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:35,040
because
i mean you still got a whole week before

575
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:35,040
the election

576
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,839
them you know

577
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,800
i don't think i would like people to
wait till the last day or the last week

578
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:58,960
you know to print them for this
yeah

579
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:05,040
but the money would be the money
wouldn't be

580
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:09,280
um
awarded anyways they have to go to june

581
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,079
first right
yeah okay

582
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:16,720
well i mean it all depends on when your
application comes in so okay so if you

583
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:21,280
if you wait until the last day then you
have to be awarded after june 1st but

584
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:24,559
if you come in as soon as
you hear about it and you're eligible

585
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
then
either way i'd be the first 50 witnesses

586
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,480
either way
first come first serve

587
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,960
yeah it was a question um is there
applications already ready for

588
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,000
businesses not yet okay
but they will be

589
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,200
i think

590
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:49,920
to move this
from march first to june

591
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,440
give people opportunities to take
advantage of

592
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,839
the
offer here

593
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:14,079
pointed out i did mention something here
so if that if

594
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:17,760
that disqualifies me from this i'm going
to step away and say i'm going to vote

595
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:20,800
on this and i'm not going to participate
in this at all

596
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,960
um
if that's the case i don't want any

597
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,720
discrepancies on anything
um you know

598
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,400
i'm a small administrator it would be a
great help for doing 50 businesses in

599
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,800
town that it could help so if i need to
stop sorry

600
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,400
so initially i don't have to i don't
either i mean i just i won't participate

601
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,839
in the program
it's

602
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:48,640
each council person's
decision whether they want to recuse or

603
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:53,040
not i know but once i
once i mentioned that like he said then

604
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:56,000
i probably have disqualified myself for
refusing right

605
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,200
nate
not to hold things up if you're not

606
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:03,040
participating to participate if you're
not don't hold things up for the rest of

607
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:07,839
the community i'm carrying businesses
out i think i think i'm i'm the navy

608
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,400
there's another oh sorry i think i'm
leading this right now

609
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,319
so
right right now we the process

610
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:23,680
the process is legal right i mean so far
addressing commissioner parker's

611
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:27,200
concerns
if you

612
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:30,559
are not going to participate in this
program

613
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:36,160
and you wish to vote on this
that would be permitted

614
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:39,839
if you wish to permissive
participate in this program then you

615
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,280
should recuse
for voting

616
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:48,839
the fact that you have commented about
it already i don't think that uh because

617
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:52,800
public comments as well
yeah okay

618
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,040
the main thing is
getting this for the businesses the

619
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,800
people who deserve it not holding things
up you know

620
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:06,960
if the application process start a lot
of people apply

621
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:10,720
yes okay oh the bottom line is
commissioner gardner

622
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:18,359
can make his own decision if he wishes
to recuse or not i'm going to i'm going

623
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,359
to recuse and i will decide later

624
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:25,680
uh does the business have to be open
prior to covet for

625
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
it doesn't matter

626
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:31,200
it has to be registered with the state
of maryland or somerset county as a

627
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:38,520
business in the corporate boundaries of
the town of princess and prior to august

628
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,520
1st 2021. uh

629
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,359
all right

630
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,599
okay

631
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,240
the people that really need it

632
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,640
you guys want to hold things up again
but i think humanity is

633
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:45,440
hate from the attorney this town man do
you have anything

634
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,480
all right there any other questions in
in your chat

635
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:57,160
no
okay seeing none what's your pleasure

636
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:07,880
is there a motion to accept resolution
i'll make a move to check resolutions

637
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:16,800
okay uh then
is that with the amendment moving in uh

638
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:22,400
the
application from march the first yes to

639
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:28,000
june yeah
so to the elderly business applicant

640
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:32,480
must file an application back june
yes

641
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,480
all right yes

642
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:39,200
so probably moving a second we accept
the application

643
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:44,559
and accept the resolution number 20
20

644
00:54:40,799 --> 00:54:49,359
20 2201 with the
uh with the amendments

645
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,960
any further discussion
i don't have that

646
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:52,960
all in

647
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:03,079
those opposed
motion pack the resolution passes three

648
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:03,079
zero

649
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:12,480
so this would be advertised from through
the town office

650
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:16,240
yes in our local community
here's the first question we had about

651
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:21,040
the tax credit
how was it advertising

652
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,040
right they

653
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:30,640
deadline for that was advertised on
december 31st but town hall was closed

654
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:35,440
on the 31st so there were many residents
who weren't able to put their elderly

655
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:40,799
elderly tax credits so i was wondering
if we could perhaps extend that

656
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:45,760
tax that deadline so they could still
apply i know right after that we had the

657
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,440
snowstorm that came so the town office
would close that delayed the process as

658
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,760
well but there's still a bunch of
options out there

659
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,040
running
but we would advertise it for the

660
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:01,400
31st december as a deadline that becomes
another

661
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,400
agenda

662
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:12,319
if you're going to extend the date then
you need to bring that resolution back

663
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:16,720
and amend it to extend the date
okay

664
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:21,440
before we get past another resolution to
um allow that

665
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:25,119
asset again for the year 2022
and then that resolution the ones who

666
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:31,359
then uh
apply for 21 could still apply

667
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,480
21-22
i think what we've got to do is

668
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:39,680
reference the
one that already passed yes and then

669
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,599
state that the commissioner's desire to
extend

670
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,960
the
termination date you

671
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:56,000
or we could go back and then that
resolution so that it could be awarded

672
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:59,760
for the fiscal year 21 and 22 correct
and extend that deadline so that they

673
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:03,920
can apply and when they do apply it'll
be reimbursed for 21. let's let's pull

674
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,040
up the resolution and look at what's
worthy

675
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:12,880
but that's another thing agenda island i
would like to have is us look into

676
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:19,359
establishing that same sort of uh tax
credit for this fiscal year 2022 as well

677
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:23,040
because it's very successful for 21 and
many of our elderly rights that's really

678
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,720
benefited from it so
i'd like to propose an additional

679
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,160
resolution
for

680
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:33,359
establishing the tax credit for
this festive year as well

681
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,880
another thing
i

682
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,720
reached out to the council for
resolution

683
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:48,400
to potentially
postpone our new year's resolution

684
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:54,359
celebration because of the opposite
in light of today's meeting that's

685
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,359
convenient today

686
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:07,599
because i received notification that the
recent local park commission

687
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:11,119
met on friday for a group photo and the
council we haven't even introduced the

688
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,359
renewable card committee yet but it was
arranged by karen samus for group photo

689
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,680
and really that's something that should
be introduced by the council going to

690
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:22,400
public meetings so before any photos are
released for press release from the

691
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:25,440
newspaper
the council or the president

692
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:29,680
commissioner cervantes
be allowed the opportunity to introduce

693
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,000
this new commission that i propose
to the public

694
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:36,160
so
that's that's an issue

695
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:40,240
but that's another thing i did do you
admit the agenda that had that item to

696
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:44,000
it this is under my commissioner's
poundless what's been done

697
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,640
and that's what main reason why i feel
this meeting this public meeting today

698
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:50,240
was
suppose it was rescheduled for this

699
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:55,040
morning to not allow the public to
attend at six o'clock uh and that photo

700
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,640
being taken so early on this friday
you know that's that's something that's

701
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:03,040
supposed to be an agenda that's supposed
to be on the agenda the introduction of

702
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:06,240
the monogamous park commission
that's high in the work of this council

703
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,440
the great work has been done it's just
not right

704
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,839
so before i'd like our attorneys the
bottom line is we didn't get credit for

705
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:14,960
it
right now the public the president of

706
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,359
the commission should be allowed the
same way you're allowing a public

707
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,920
member to come into a meeting that's not
allowed for everyone

708
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:25,200
is the same
way you're breaking the fall here it's

709
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:30,319
not fair it's not right
and what they did on the agenda for the

710
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:34,079
next for february mia i think we should
introduce the enough park commission

711
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:38,400
our public meeting or a call to a
special need to have that introduced but

712
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,680
that's members when you have members of
the commission wondering why something

713
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,799
like this is happening the commission
doesn't have the opportunity to

714
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:49,119
introduce the
newly formed committee that's just not

715
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,960
right
that should be on the agenda mr town

716
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:57,119
manager while you're here all right well
with response to that i

717
00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:02,480
what the what the members of the
monogamy park commission did i had no

718
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,839
idea that was there they were all
informed that they were originally to be

719
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:10,880
introduced
at the june i missed the january meeting

720
01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:13,760
that that was canceled i sent them all
an email informing them that they

721
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:17,680
wouldn't that
they would be introduced at a later date

722
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,359
i didn't give them the time yet because
i was trying to afford the commissioners

723
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,720
an opportunity
to let me know what day that would

724
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:28,720
happen so you've just said it's going to
be february so it'll be fabulous sir i'm

725
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:32,400
the one before you
before you were notified about that and

726
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:36,160
it wasn't even on the agenda last month
or january without the park commission

727
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:42,240
no introduction i wasn't even on the
agenda for saying word i call them up

728
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:45,920
invited every member to be president
of the two days prior to the january

729
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:51,599
meeting to be there it wasn't an agenda
anymore in january either no yes sir i

730
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:55,680
thought it was no sir it wasn't it's
sent out it wasn't on the agenda i had

731
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:59,599
emails i sent out to the council saying
that another part connecting should be

732
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:03,040
on the agenda it wasn't all content
i thought around invited me just

733
01:01:01,359 --> 01:01:07,440
finished saying that we couldn't have
people in the ring as a result of that

734
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,640
as a result of that the meeting that's
supposed to be at 6 30 for the public it

735
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,839
was closed
it's gathered from nine o'clock this

736
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:17,440
morning so everyone kept the pen and the
photo was just taken on friday so look

737
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,319
let me know
you know let me also address that

738
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,480
because i think what you're trying to
say is there was some

739
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:28,640
conspiracy yesterday and there there's
not

740
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:32,079
as i mentioned and indicated before
whenever there's been a legislative or

741
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:36,079
work session it's been at night and the
legislative was rescheduled it's been at

742
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:41,200
nine o'clock
on the third monday now the last time

743
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:47,599
this happened was i think it was june 15
2020 the exact conditions that we're in

744
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:52,240
today if you look at that agenda which i
followed the guidelines on that agenda

745
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:56,960
there was a state of emergency in june
15 2020

746
01:01:53,839 --> 01:02:01,839
which is exactly what we're in today
the meeting was closed

747
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:05,680
because of that state of emergency i
followed the precedent that i had before

748
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,000
there me
a conspiracy to do anything

749
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:14,079
i followed up that precedent
and that's it if you want to change it

750
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:18,880
and do it differently that's up to the
commissioner but but but i'm not going

751
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,640
to sit here and allow you to accuse me
of something that i didn't do

752
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:26,559
yes sir but i would advise you not to
follow any precedent from any hit the

753
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:31,039
previous town manager that's the number
one but for june 15 2020 there was no

754
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:35,280
town manager anything that the town
manager or previous administration was

755
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:39,680
doing but on top of that the bottom line
is it wasn't an agenda item i would like

756
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:44,160
it to be in the item in the introduction
of another commission whether

757
01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:47,119
you're saying it's foul play or not it
should be on the agenda for the

758
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,920
president and commission to introduce
the northern part commission it wasn't

759
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,920
on the january agenda

760
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,799
i don't see this so much uh anybody
needed to try and reject it

761
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:05,200
why isn't it on the agenda i just that
they're having like carrick sam was

762
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:08,640
having a proud meeting when we should
have shut down the muskrat drop of

763
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,760
denton but we're shutting down this
morning and the public should be allowed

764
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,680
to attend
and the photos were taken on friday they

765
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,640
can meet for a photo to be taken she got
arranged that's why you have other

766
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,680
members of this committee wondering
what's going on well i think we're

767
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:25,839
talking about two different issues here
i'm sure it's not right we need it to be

768
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:29,119
on the agenda the introduction of the
park commission

769
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:31,520
on the agenda i think that is if you
want to be

770
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,599
like
like that's that's the question what the

771
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:40,559
first man in february yeah that's what i
just i just said

772
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,839
like you had it on the immediate agenda
that's why i just said

773
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:48,640
i would go where i'd like to have the
introduction of notepad commission

774
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:52,079
on the agenda for february
uh

775
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:56,960
do we know do they i'm just asking or do
they plan on releasing something to the

776
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:00,640
to the public i
i i don't know why they

777
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:04,319
took the photos i don't know what that
was about i don't know if they planned

778
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:07,680
to make it i don't know
um

779
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,720
but i can reach out to them and let them
know that they should not do any of that

780
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:14,799
before
they are formally introduced so i'll do

781
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,920
that today
you said that carrie is the person that

782
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,079
organized it i'll make sure i reach out
to her and

783
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,760
and
anyone else for that matter

784
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,839
to make sure that there are no
press releases before

785
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:33,200
they're formally introduced so i'll take
care of that today thank you sir

786
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:38,640
next i am the business
the department head department

787
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:42,400
to start with the chief police
thank you president commissioner good

788
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:45,680
morning um
december

789
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:51,200
uh attended the csc advisory board
meeting uh provided security in

790
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:55,920
traffic control for the christmas parade
new year's eve celebration

791
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,559
regular town meetings were scheduled
we also hosted the winner one online

792
01:04:57,359 --> 01:05:01,599
abandoned civic center this year it's
only been held at one of the schools

793
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,359
music in the green board of princeton
elementary this year was at the uh

794
01:05:03,839 --> 01:05:10,720
civic center
well attended or 400 people there

795
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,280
100 families received gifts and
donations

796
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:16,960
which were
they were very grateful for

797
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:22,559
during the month of december we had 362
calls for service

798
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,640
almost 93 of those are closed um
not

799
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:42,400
monthly grant available horses were done
you know down there the new county-wide

800
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:46,240
rms system was set to go live we're live
now we're still working through some

801
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:51,599
issues but we are we are getting up to
speed and moving forward with that

802
01:05:48,839 --> 01:05:55,280
um unless you're aware of the i.t issues
we've been having

803
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,720
it's been brought up and
discussed many times

804
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:01,440
i'm working through those trying to keep
the department running so that the

805
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:06,319
citizens of town
don't have any laps in service or that

806
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,440
we provide to them
that's all i've got unless you have any

807
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:14,640
questions for me
thank you sir

808
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:19,079
also on the previous uh
yeah

809
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,079
mr

810
01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:25,760
[Music]

811
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:35,760
the department collected 74.8 tons of
trash in december

812
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:40,240
the drainage project on bedford avenue
have been completed the second gas pump

813
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:43,760
has been installed at public works in
the door complying

814
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:48,160
the new trash truck
is up and running great also

815
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:51,920
the detractor
phase two of the election house is just

816
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:55,359
about completed
we are still waiting on parts for the

817
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,839
fans as soon as they come in to work
we'll start

818
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,720
well let me um so jane
really quickly the drainage project on

819
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:09,200
bedford avenue um
that was the project that came before

820
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:14,640
the commissioners it was the complaint
from from a resident yes and um

821
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:19,039
we went out we took a look at it
and determined that

822
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:21,839
it was part of the responsibility of the
town

823
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:27,359
and uh
they repaired it yes and they also

824
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,039
re repaid so the drainage issue is done
yes so we shouldn't receive any more

825
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:36,640
complaints about that
and phase two of the election house

826
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:40,400
renovation just kind of give
give an update as to what what that what

827
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:43,680
that looks like we're we're sanding the
floors now

828
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:48,319
well the floor is completely sand and
stained and everything

829
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:53,680
and uh we put these shoes against the
walls and painted those

830
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:57,640
and what we have left is the lighting
that's the last thing

831
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:09,480
we have working restrooms there now and
everything's good we've got yeah

832
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:17,839
speaking of the election house i was
hoping when could we be proactive and

833
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:21,359
have the ribbon cutting
the election house pressure please for

834
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:24,159
that as well
uh we had originally agreed to

835
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,359
commissions that originally agreed
around march

836
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:31,199
of march of this year
so that's that's so that's where that's

837
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,199
where we are we've got the floors done
yeah so basically now it's we're just

838
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:39,679
looking at getting the exterior done
there was some vandalism and damage that

839
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:42,080
we are taking care of there but so the
interior's done the exterior should be

840
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:46,640
done
um probably by early february and then

841
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:50,159
we'll move with the ribbon cutting in
march okay

842
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:54,960
well honestly
we it i don't know

843
01:08:52,719 --> 01:09:00,560
if it was i think vandalism they knocked
uh what are the those concrete domes

844
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,560
oh yeah the

845
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:10,560
help our uh maybe collab with the police
department he did

846
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,839
get some surveillance cameras out there
because there were people camping out

847
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:17,040
there late at night
things of that nature

848
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:22,319
i believe there was a damn body film
there many years ago before

849
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:27,359
i think while we have funding available
to invest in the technology

850
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:31,839
to help combat some of these uh
evangelisms

851
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:35,799
so i'd like to work in the veterinarian
chief of mission town manager

852
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:54,400
[Music]
and with respect to the park at

853
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:57,679
our executive team meeting we did
discuss

854
01:09:55,440 --> 01:10:02,560
the park and added patrols at the park
in addition to also having

855
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,520
some cameras there we do have people
that

856
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:09,040
sleep in some of the park equipment over
there we've got um

857
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,320
every morning we've got public works
picking up

858
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:15,280
quite a bit of trash over there so those
are the things we had discussed that a

859
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,080
few weeks back
and we're going to be putting those

860
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,719
those things
in order one of the big delays to that

861
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:27,679
and to the camera
is that we are moving away from our

862
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:32,880
current i.t consultant so until we get
our new it person and we get this

863
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:36,640
situation with it dissolved by the end
of the month we're not going to move

864
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:39,600
forward in installing new
camera equipment and things like that

865
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:44,719
but that is
on the agenda

866
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:48,719
for probably the month of february
is is there a plan right now or what's

867
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:53,440
the what is the situation with the
public restrooms at the park are they

868
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:57,840
accessible at all now or they keep being
kept blocked only during the event

869
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:02,640
so right now the public restrooms we've
got the one at lanoken park and it's

870
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:05,600
only accessible during events uh we
don't have it open

871
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:09,199
uh
during the day no so it's so uh if you

872
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:13,360
went to the park you could you wouldn't
be able to use that restaurant unless

873
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,880
there was a scheduled event
another thing for our commission can

874
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:19,920
look into how to change that well during
the summer right now it's probably not

875
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,400
bad then using the swings but right
during the summer when it's more active

876
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,880
it would be nice to have a public
restroom access

877
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:46,320
so right now it's just a matter of
resources and equipment that's it so

878
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:48,800
that's all we're waiting on right now
that's it

879
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:10,960
oh yeah i'd like to give a special uh
thank you to our public works department

880
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:15,600
as well this month uh we've had some
really cold mornings maybe not just at

881
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:19,040
six five to six o'clock in the morning
time operations are functioning

882
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,440
thank god

883
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,400
um

884
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,520
[Music]

885
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:40,679
all right
um we submitted the final report for

886
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,120
grant
cl2015 that this was a grant that the

887
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:50,239
town actually applied for and it was
awarded uh back in 2015

888
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:56,320
and that grant is it paid several
streets uh throughout the town and um i

889
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:59,920
had to submit the final report for that
uh i met with pete lackey from the state

890
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:04,640
planning department to discuss the
somerset drainage project

891
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,920
um and what the next steps are moving
forward there

892
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:12,080
um so we have a meeting scheduled with
with the county because they also review

893
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:16,320
the somerset drainage project and that
meeting is scheduled for tomorrow i

894
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:20,960
believe it's at 10 o'clock but
uh i'm pretty sure it's at 10.

895
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:25,440
uh if that's the not the right pile i'll
definitely update

896
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:31,760
everyone the town executed
an agreement with reynolds to begin work

897
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:36,159
on the beckford avenue project which was
grant that we

898
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:43,679
were awarded in 2017 and that's the
crosswalk crosswalk sidewalk project

899
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,679
so we're on track there

900
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:49,360
i work with the town attorney to draft
mural agreements with the property

901
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:53,360
owners that have agreed to have the
murals painted on

902
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:58,520
on on their buildings
i haven't received a signed agreement

903
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:58,520
yet but

904
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:06,080
oh okay all right
um

905
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:09,040
so i received one and i'm waiting for it
for the other

906
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:11,760
um
and you may have been receiving some

907
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:15,679
calls
from residents regarding

908
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:19,199
notices that they received about their
trial service

909
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,320
we did issue
the individuals that received those

910
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:26,159
notices that their trash service would
be discontinued

911
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,159
were

912
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:32,480
residents that hadn't paid that trash
bill

913
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:35,440
on average for between two to five years
so

914
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:40,400
uh we did require that those individuals
pay that pay their trash or at least set

915
01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:43,920
up a payment plan so we're not turning
anyone away if they want to set up a

916
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:47,120
payment plan and they can't afford five
years of that

917
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:51,440
um
uh payments we'll be definitely set up

918
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:56,320
payment arrangements for anyone who's
called us

919
01:14:53,679 --> 01:15:00,239
let me shut up the payment with the
chance stuff to be picked up or other

920
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,480
checks will still be paid out they'll
still be picked up so there's not going

921
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:06,000
to be
your service isn't going to stop we're

922
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:10,640
just asking just call if you if you can
pay it in full great if you can't

923
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:14,159
then make payment arrangements
and

924
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:19,520
and we'll pick up pick up your trash but
um there were approximately 18 this

925
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:22,560
affected approximately 88 res miles
so

926
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,840
and typically they were between two and
five years

927
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:33,280
that there may be some that may
fall under that but the vast majority

928
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:36,800
hadn't paid in two to five years
and i think a big reason for that and i

929
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,440
think we're going to also
inform residents as well

930
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,760
i think
and i don't have the exact history of it

931
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:48,080
but at some point
the fees were

932
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,679
a part of taxes and then they were
removed from taxes i think you know

933
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,040
perhaps people just you know you pay the
tax bill or

934
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:58,000
the mortgage company pays it and you're
not really paying attention to it so

935
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,760
um
and and a lot of people were really

936
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:04,719
unaware that they hadn't paid they
thought this was part of their

937
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,560
uh
it was a part of their taxes so

938
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:13,760
and that's it for the account management
all right questions

939
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:23,360
um
season

940
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:23,360
nominee for january

941
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:28,320
one at all or what you mean america

942
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:33,600
well this is james we're in january
right now

943
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,480
i know we're nominated for december for
january's meeting so this week we'll be

944
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:42,080
seated today and nomination potentially
february next week

945
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:49,760
but today
this is our public meeting

946
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,760
so next stop we have help

947
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,760
now's the time to be proactive because
we didn't nominate this much so now if

948
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:06,560
you want to nominate someone for next
month today will be the time to make the

949
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:09,520
nomination
if you have something

950
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:16,360
we don't have to do it they know what
you well

951
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:41,199
my recommendation for the next month
will be diamond

952
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,199
uh

953
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:47,120
she's on the uh local park commission
but she's been doing a lot of great

954
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:51,440
leads in the community
um we work together for the top 10

955
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,960
community guard
suggested

956
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:59,280
our garden and she's always out in the
community to be a proactive

957
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:04,320
great things i think she's worthy of the
town of very work

958
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:10,040
i'd like to make that nomination if
you're supportive of the dead

959
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,040
february

960
01:18:16,190 --> 01:18:21,130
[Music]

961
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,159
so
uh

962
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,760
for all the thank you for
steining for the february very prepared

963
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:34,400
world
yeah

964
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:38,159
yeah
mr answered

965
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:41,920
among all the commissioners that i
missed

966
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:48,480
on the uh milton park commission as the
american american secretary all right

967
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:51,520
how many people have started
any further i said

968
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,920
no
i'm just going to thank our public works

969
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:02,480
and our uh public safety departments who
are all very hard work stay safe at

970
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,480
harris hope

971
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:08,800
did great work on our
front office as well appreciate all the

972
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:14,000
good
hard work keeping us informed thank you

973
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:17,520
thank you sir
mr wilbur uh are we going to do the work

974
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,920
session tonight
right you would want to adjourn the

975
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,560
legislative session and then open up the
work sessions

976
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:31,440
this time
and no further discussion i would like

977
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:37,719
to call promotion
to adjourn

978
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,719
through our work session for

979
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:42,159
going to our group session
journey

980
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:47,280
sergeant
probably will live in second believe

981
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:51,640
general public town hall me and those
who are famously fathers saying ah

982
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,920
uh this time we don't have to call for a
motion to start the work session we will

983
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:02,960
start
this time thus uh and uh begins the

984
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:09,080
monthly work session for the town of
princess anne on this day of january 19

985
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,080
2022

986
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:16,159
following the 9 o'clock a.m public town
hall meeting

987
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:19,760
so this time
me has been called to order for our work

988
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:23,600
session
um is there a motion

989
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:27,840
well this is the same agenda so we don't
need another motion to accept the

990
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,840
recession

991
01:20:28,639 --> 01:20:35,600
so the next item business for our work
session will be

992
01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:39,040
chesapeake utilities assessment
presentation which is

993
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:45,360
been moved to february
and

994
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:51,520
next item investment after that will be
the resolution to sell two jump cars

995
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:55,120
um
if i can interrupt

996
01:20:53,679 --> 01:20:59,679
the
the two junk cars moving out to february

997
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:03,040
is there i mean is there any
i haven't heard anything about you of

998
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,360
course or something
tell us

999
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:12,080
we entered into a lease agreement with
enterprises you are aware of this

1000
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:17,360
pleasure
i've got two two chargers now

1001
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:21,040
that are
one has the blue motor the other one the

1002
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:23,679
cpu which is the main computer in the
car is

1003
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:27,440
shock
so for two thousand dollars for cpu new

1004
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:31,280
motors between eight and ten thousand
pounds you can get it from people to

1005
01:21:28,719 --> 01:21:31,280
them for you

1006
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:37,600
these are two vehicles that are sent to
afghan to be

1007
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:40,239
turned over to enterprise as part of the
lease agreement

1008
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:45,199
and the money and you know enterprise
they sell them they've got a bigger

1009
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,000
market they're going to explain to you
guys

1010
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:51,040
and you presented it before i didn't
meet you you'd have to go through no no

1011
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:54,320
i didn't i hear some backstory here that
you need to be aware of

1012
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:57,840
there's one of our consignment people
there before every auctioneer does it

1013
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,760
every friend that sells at their feet
it's whatever they're giving us 500

1014
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:04,639
hours for each one of these vehicles
we're going to make 100

1015
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,760
i've got offers on two of them i don't
know who the people are but i've had our

1016
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:15,679
offers calls come in their names written
down in the office it would come into

1017
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:19,040
the department for 800 hours a piece for
vehicles

1018
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:22,960
which would make us 1600 which would go
towards our lease agreement automatic

1019
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:26,080
right off the top instead of us
making one hundred dollars

1020
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,560
it's it would seem that way it would
seem that way um

1021
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,719
but i've been in the conference
conversation with mr anderson and

1022
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,320
this is the foreign to have people kind
of presented and now

1023
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:46,719
so
yes sir so um

1024
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:50,719
all this is on the table uh
i'd like to uh i don't have any problem

1025
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:55,760
with the selling of the junkyard was at
their job but i would like to see them

1026
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:59,360
make it to the town the yearly town
auction so that

1027
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:03,760
there's not any like behind the scenes a
bid putting in for at least the public

1028
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:07,280
housing awareness or aware of it you can
put bids in okay that's fine and i

1029
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:12,320
understand your position but
historically speaking cars at public

1030
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,320
works go for 500 or less

1031
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:19,040
i purchased a few of them for over a
thousand dollars historically speaking

1032
01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:21,760
most of the cars go for 500 or less yes
sir depending on the quality of it in

1033
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:25,840
the demand yeah
so um i like to see him make it to the

1034
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:29,040
public public auction you know because
that was a

1035
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:33,760
main thing for why um
we had a uh

1036
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:38,400
ordinance for
those established back in august blacks

1037
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:42,800
here stating that all
jump cars must go to the

1038
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:46,560
police auction
it must be at public discretion so the

1039
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,840
public could have a chance to federal
debt

1040
01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:49,840
on

1041
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:57,360
what it comes down to is
these vehicles need to be declared

1042
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:01,840
surplus and then the commissioners can
decide do you want to sell them that

1043
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:05,040
public or private sale because
the commissioner's call

1044
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,000
to figure out if they're there you guys
are sitting in beds i'd like to put in a

1045
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:12,480
bed for a thousand dollars on what
someone has knows about it before i did

1046
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:16,320
i was able to put their
bed uh asking their everybody i've been

1047
01:24:14,639 --> 01:24:19,440
on that you know i put my bed at a
thousand they've got a big one eight

1048
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:24,400
hundred
so um but i i was more so not about that

1049
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:29,520
i like the public have the
discretion to be able to buy these

1050
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:32,719
uh cars or at least bid a fair price i
understand your point and i understand

1051
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,280
you want to make available to the public
and if you want to buy it you give me a

1052
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:38,800
check for a thousand dollars i'll sell
it youtube here's my issue

1053
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:41,920
you're holding up my lease so i can't
get my new cars

1054
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,840
oh really
i've got two of my cars i can't get my

1055
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,560
next one do we have an auction on them
tomorrow i don't have enough cars that

1056
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:52,239
have an auction they're here and just
those two

1057
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:57,520
can we have an option to sell those
uh advertisements in public

1058
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:01,440
almost like a courthouse
it's fine i haven't advertised it 60

1059
01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:05,040
days after every time before or 30. i
think it's 60 days i've advertised

1060
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:08,639
before i think we're gonna go that route
if that puts me in the market

1061
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:15,280
is there a way we can
surplus these and just store them until

1062
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:19,920
our auction yeah it's going to have to
be physically gone and so i'm trying to

1063
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:26,000
get my lease going now no no i
understand that i'm just saying is there

1064
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:26,000
a way to get the lease going by just

1065
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:44,560
plus whatever fees they're going to
charge us for

1066
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:48,560
what we need to get out of we this is a
situation where we need to get out of a

1067
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:51,280
obligation
right uh selling these cars is that

1068
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:57,440
correct
i need it's going to help me satisfy my

1069
01:25:55,120 --> 01:26:00,960
part of my obligation isn't that right
so basically we would be

1070
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:05,600
we have an opportunity to satisfy the
application and get 200

1071
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:10,960
right would satisfy the obligation and
get 1600 toward new

1072
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:14,960
vehicles either way
going to auction may violate our

1073
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,520
agreement anyway because the surplus
vehicles we're not really going to have

1074
01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:21,360
surplus vehicles that's a part of our
work the partners for this agreement

1075
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,520
everything's recycling we're basically
trading in right recouping any value

1076
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:29,040
left in it do we at least advertise it
on the town website and the town web

1077
01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:32,239
page that these two vehicles aren't
yourself and set that's the company if

1078
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,880
you guys will pass the resolution i
hired me to do that absolutely yes sir

1079
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:39,760
that's what i heard on my page
it's a resolution for them to do that

1080
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:44,480
they're within their race correct right
there you need to do a resolution

1081
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,120
however you wish to sell it yes yeah the
method is saying that way everybody

1082
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:51,280
still have to be public but you guys
said we're gonna liquidate as soon as we

1083
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:55,440
can yes sir okay but still won't mess
you up for me

1084
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:59,280
i'm dragging along if we've got a plan
in place i'm pretty sure i can keep

1085
01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:05,800
sliding down the road
how long can we advertise this to allow

1086
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,800
the events to come in to be reviewed

1087
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:23,360
right and as a part of that when you
sell the vehicles right

1088
01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:26,560
the form of payment that we take would
only be cash or cashier's check yeah

1089
01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:32,800
correct
so anyone that wants to purchase the

1090
01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:36,880
vehicles has that cash or is checked yes
immediately

1091
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:40,880
that's how it's going to go yes yes all
right whatever date we decided to do it

1092
01:27:38,639 --> 01:27:40,880
by

1093
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:47,040
what kind of quest time are you on
i'd say if we've got something in the

1094
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,800
works but i'm telling look we're going
to sell them ourselves now instead of

1095
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:54,639
giving you 400 to make 100
i

1096
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,760
i say i think i'm not 100 sure but i'm
pretty sure i can slide this down the

1097
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:01,040
road further to keep them from
saying what year are the vehicles i i

1098
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:04,960
don't have the information in europe
they're what i don't want to think about

1099
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:08,639
one of them is in 2012 and the other is
newer but i don't know how much newer i

1100
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:12,320
know when it was in 2012. i think that's
the one with the motor that is

1101
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:15,520
no good and they've been in storage for
what

1102
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:20,800
uh since live won since last spring one
since last summer august against

1103
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:25,600
september mr wilbur is there any um is
there anything that

1104
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:29,320
would keep us from allowing him to just
first come first certified

1105
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:46,239
i'm asking our other attorney mr well
it's the vote of the commissioners how

1106
01:28:44,639 --> 01:28:49,040
these vehicles are going to be selling
yes

1107
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:52,880
there's public or private sale
and

1108
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:57,520
that's your call yes
everything you do should be public

1109
01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:01,679
not proud this is this public office
everything we did should be public the

1110
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:05,760
advertising on the web page nothing to
be done or sold

1111
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:08,840
the beds coming in with that i would
talk to the rest of the public not

1112
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:13,120
knowing about or having the same fair
discretion so we're going to sell these

1113
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:18,000
cars the time frame of it should be
advertised on the town website facebook

1114
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:24,880
page and also the police department the
highest the highest price that comes in

1115
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:27,600
so we're going to now um we're going to
now um

1116
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,040
run an online auction is that what we're
doing

1117
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,800
it sounds like we've got all that
come in and open up bids

1118
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,120
not that

1119
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:01,120
so let's uh we will
i'll work with the chief i work with mr

1120
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:07,280
wilbur we'll figure out how
this will be advertised um but it is

1121
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:10,960
time sensitive because
it takes about two or three months just

1122
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:15,760
we get these vehicles and it takes about
two or three months just to get them out

1123
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:19,120
there right so if we can't get them in
then we can't start that process either

1124
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:22,560
so
i mean the turnaround time for

1125
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:26,320
advertisements today's wednesday so we
could open the advertising for just a

1126
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:30,960
week until next wednesday
i can't even have a resolution though

1127
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:35,920
you gotta have a resolution authorizing
whatever will be the process next

1128
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:39,280
meeting february 7th which is obviously
three weeks later

1129
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:43,120
so even if we were going to allow them
to

1130
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:46,400
give us the 500 and pay them 400 to sell
it um

1131
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:50,080
deal we'd still need a resolution to do
that

1132
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:52,400
well well that's a part of my release
agreement

1133
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:58,239
so i presented the leasing
during the budget

1134
01:30:56,159 --> 01:31:02,159
last year anything beyond that would
cause it right we created regulations

1135
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:06,159
right the enterprise deal's been cut but
if you're going to go another direction

1136
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,920
even if he was to sell it to the people
that he has

1137
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:17,040
that have offered him a resolution right
yeah so either way

1138
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,040
amount of time we're dealing with so i'd

1139
01:31:28,639 --> 01:31:31,040
coming in

1140
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:39,280
so we are
what you're recommending is that we have

1141
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:43,840
we have an auction
a bidding process sure it's just not an

1142
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:47,679
auction that requires the entire lot
that's out there it would just be these

1143
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:51,760
two parts that have been auctioned off
public options

1144
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:56,320
it's probably not private
i brought no private sales

1145
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:59,280
phone stuff public options government
surplus

1146
01:31:57,679 --> 01:32:03,440
cover cause no it just got to be
advertised and all that great

1147
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:06,719
well we own them and i pretty much
correct myself mr president

1148
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:10,159
you you when you mentioned the inbound
lock cars that inbounded before those

1149
01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:12,880
have to be advertised for 60 years we
own this vehicle

1150
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,159
yeah i mean we can blast it out i mean
if

1151
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:27,840
we get the resolution to pass on the
seventh

1152
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,840
um

1153
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:34,080
closer building on what you should give
a week give them to the 15th

1154
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:36,400
within seven days yes sir we could
always schedule a meeting again for next

1155
01:32:35,679 --> 01:32:40,560
week
i need to do a special meeting just for

1156
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:44,400
that that's a lot of work for you guys
well it's just we work for the people so

1157
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:48,159
i don't see how hard we could meet if
you guys could develop a resolution that

1158
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:53,800
says tomorrow the council could
potentially need

1159
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,800
the kids to be in this process

1160
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:07,600
we sat here earlier
and listened to a gentleman that had to

1161
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:11,920
wait over six months
to be able to get his business started

1162
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:17,360
here and now you want to streamline and
and have a special meeting over 1600

1163
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:20,360
dollars in surplus cars let's not go off
topic

1164
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:42,000
for whatever i will i will
contact eric and and do what i can to

1165
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,960
you know
so

1166
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:47,040
um
you know

1167
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:50,040
however you want to have it i'm
agreeable

1168
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:05,320
town manager and chief police
will have a resolution

1169
01:34:06,639 --> 01:34:12,080
uh i mean mr henry hannah has come in to
uh

1170
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,400
that's the um
session

1171
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,600
for the session
so

1172
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:24,560
see no further
items

1173
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:30,280
business on the agenda i'd like to call
for a motion to go into closed session

1174
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,280
for a real estate match

1175
01:34:47,170 --> 01:34:50,220
[Music]

1176
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:03,639
can very cool