[0:00] removed
[0:21] [Music]
[0:27] she
cares next item of business will be the
[0:33] second rating of the
[0:36] town
[0:39] mending the tattoo ordinance
established in the charter
[0:51] i'd like to open this up for especially
among the
[0:57] council
[1:02] see that
prospective business owner is here queer
[1:07] a tattoo shop as well
eight percent business owner
[1:11] [Music]
[1:14] it makes this very difficult you know
it's public second reading for public
[1:18] comment but
i would honestly
[1:25] uh we should table this item until
uh
[1:31] there's the ability to allow
public comment on the final reading now
[1:35] that we've seen it
potentially
[1:39] where we can uh it's very difficult to
get public
[1:42] public discussion today because uh the
meeting
[1:46] has been changed to uh skype
sir
[1:50] i just contacted your office excuse me
[2:02] [Music]
[2:14] it's second reading you've had public
comment a couple of other times you can
[2:18] certainly have public comment this time
but typically then the council would
[2:23] vote
[2:41] [Music]
[2:47] on the premises
[3:02] do we have comments in the chat
no no
[3:08] any any comments uh hope for discussion
among the uh council or i'll read the uh
[3:13] president
president um
[3:18] number
2022-42
[3:21] uh resolution to set piece for
permission license pursuant to section
[3:26] 140-9
after work for your tattoo
[3:29] establishments
[3:35] [Applause]
mr president
[3:39] i think that's the revolution to set the
fee
[3:44] what you want to do is pass the
importance
[3:47] first and then
[4:01] the amended ordinance does two principle
things it removes the need for a
[4:06] position
on the premises
[4:09] and it sets standards for the type of
testing and certification
[4:14] that the
operators
[4:16] need
other than that it's largely the same
[4:22] legislation that's been in the town code
for years
[4:29] all right and the copy of that ordinance
is coming over right now so i'm gonna be
[4:34] here
she'll be bringing the copy
[4:36] all right the amended ordinance is
provided to be
[4:41] and read
changes at this moment
[4:46] until it arrives i guess we could have a
discussion on if there's any comment
[4:50] among the commission before preceding
the vote i would like to have the
[4:54] opportunity to read aloud the amended
change to the public
[4:58] prior to
voting
[5:01] on the issue
[5:05] the floor is open for discussion at this
time
[5:21] other than the doctrine
[5:25] once i have a copy of it here i can
point them out to you
[5:46] in regard to other businesses
[5:50] in town every other business that's
located
[5:53] do they have to
[5:59] sort of register with the town in the
sense of there be it then a permit
[6:05] issue for uh
well a price issue for permit to operate
[6:10] no no
i would i would like to call for a
[6:14] motion to potentially scratch out the
at this
[6:19] this
ordinance is adopted i think we should
[6:22] at least scratch out the
[6:27] requirement this this resolution here
requirement will commit and license
[6:31] through the town with the fee of 25.00
[6:43] should be required to
pay a fee
[6:48] licensed director through the child no
other businesses
[6:51] are required to do the same exact thing
so
[6:54] we're going to look at this as a
business and we have to see it in the
[6:57] same sense as any other business without
any extra burdens of having to pay
[7:03] 25
so around while
[7:07] operating with any other business
it should be a fair plan for the front
[7:11] support
as well so i'd like to call promotion
[7:14] for us to dismantle the requirement for
a special permit and charge in town
[7:25] can we discuss it a little more
sure
[7:30] among the council anyone else that would
like to um
[7:38] well
[7:42] what was that
[7:56] at the top
[8:06] well that's right this resolution is
here to be voted on the back this is
[8:09] fine now i'll talk about
[8:24] to
not require the 25 to be licensed
[8:29] directly or through the test
that's in here already that would come
[8:33] with the amendment
[Music]
[8:36] i would like to well we could require a
permit license or just wait for the 25
[8:40] dollars it shouldn't be able to be
required
[8:45] right now the ordinance requires
the premises to be permitted
[8:52] so we have to amend the ordinance to
leave that sanction
[8:56] both for the promises
[8:59] permit and license should be required by
people that they should be
[9:03] you know their business is required
to pay that fee
[9:08] business is business to me
does any change like that change what
[9:13] happens this morning as far as whether
it passes unpassed
[9:18] if there were to pass would it extend
any
[9:26] if you
have if you pass it on second reading
[9:30] even with an amendment then
it's passed it's adopted
[9:35] become effective
[9:38] i think the reason that we did the 25
dollar fee was because
[9:44] and it is
this is being treated as a different
[9:48] just despite this is being treated
differently because they have a permit
[9:52] and there's an administrative
uh
[9:55] time and after 25 dollars probably not
going to cover it but it's uh
[10:00] it was put there because there is going
to be some administrative
[10:04] requirements for our staff
compensate for the
[10:09] time we're spending on that which is
typical for most any
[10:13] um
reason you get a permit for
[10:16] anything else just covering cost but
what it takes to town to
[10:22] do that and this this wouldn't
necessarily as you mentioned cover that
[10:26] cost the
tattoo establishments also have to do
[10:29] for border appeals and things like that
so we better take care of that at an
[10:35] administrative task as well so
again you're correct that's why the
[10:39] application fee 25
that there are going to be
[10:43] additional administrative tests
associated with the process it was scent
[10:48] like so it didn't really
shouldn't really affect someone
[10:52] on the bottom line for 25 i mean
obviously they won't save every
[10:56] penny you can in your small business i
know that very well um
[11:01] but i think the president has set for
permits and stuff like that to have some
[11:06] sort of fee
associated with
[11:09] this
[11:12] from the original from our original
from the original
[11:16] uh presentation
that's
[11:20] that was the purpose of uh
the 25 dollar
[11:25] restoration fee
[11:33] and
he said we don't
[11:36] charge that to nobody else
[11:40] not for an incoming new business
[11:44] so no business has to register what they
have when they when they come in
[11:48] no
no we don't have a separate prince town
[11:50] apprentice and business license
or or our
[12:19] one way or the other i'm just asking
some questions to be honest
[12:24] also the resolution is it area so if we
could read the
[12:27] changes
wow
[12:31] uh yes mr wilbur has a copy uh we're
getting copies for the
[12:36] i've got a copy now if you'd like me to
go over what's in the ordinance
[12:43] so we changed the definitions
to delete the
[12:48] physician requirement
and we changed the provisions inside the
[12:53] ordinance to say we don't need a
physician on-premises or supervising
[13:01] there is an application
for the establishment that's always been
[13:06] there and
there's an application for each
[13:11] person who would administer the tattoos
what you're discussing this morning is
[13:18] do you want to put a fee on that
application and on that license or not i
[13:23] think you should get the application
because it has information right
[13:27] particularly information about that
certification
[13:30] of proper training
whether you put charge a fee for it or
[13:36] not that's up to you
but you should get both the operators
[13:40] and the
premises
[13:42] of flying it's an informational thing
the town reviews the application
[13:48] approves the application
all the information is in it
[13:54] if the premises doesn't
uh comply with the requirements of the
[13:59] town then the
license or permit would be revoked
[14:04] they have to comply with all the health
requirements in
[14:09] this ordinance they are the same
requirements essentially that have been
[14:13] in this
town code for
[14:16] a long time
now the promises have to keep good
[14:21] records it has to report infections
everything has to be sterile and free of
[14:28] bacteria
it's mainly
[14:32] the ordinance is mainly oriented toward
good
[14:36] health you might say in
doing the tattooing process
[14:42] there's a penalty provision if the
ordinance is violated
[14:47] so if you pass the ordinance today you
know with or without a
[14:53] fee attached to it that's what that
separate resolution is about setting
[14:57] fees for both the promises and each of
the
[15:01] persons who would apply a tattoo
[15:05] then you know if you passed it
and
[15:09] it'll become effective i think 20 days
[15:14] like any ordinance that's the town of
charlotte thank you mr welder for
[15:18] reiterating
i'm curious what we have just arrived as
[15:22] the
amended
[15:24] ordinance and
party
[15:27] main part of the ordinance that i was
looking for is the first paragraph
[15:32] so it's an ordinance to amend chapter
140 entitled tattoo establishments of
[15:36] vote of the town of prince's ants to
delete the requirement for an optical
[15:41] osteopath or physician to operate the
tattoo establishment and require other
[15:47] licensing improvements
[15:51] to sum it all up
[15:56] this time is there any further
discussion
[16:03] do we decide on the fee before after
you had pass the importance first and
[16:09] then decide on the amount of each fee
[16:13] seeing no further discussion at this
point i'd like to call for a motion for
[16:17] us
as a council legislative body of the
[16:20] conference comprehensive
to adopt indeed and to accept the
[16:25] amended changes
[16:28] of the ordinance
[16:32] with the
[16:35] this math way uh
of the 25 feet
[16:41] application process always required by
the 25 feet from now so i'd like to call
[16:47] promotion to a set
this ordinance
[16:51] needs to be two separate things correct
right
[16:55] the ordinance is one vote and then if
you're going to put
[16:59] fees on that's the resolution
so i'm going to make a motion that we
[17:04] offer most to accept the ordinance
[17:14] i caught promotion to accept the event
ordinance
[17:19] i'm not supposed to accept
i make a motion to accept the limited
[17:24] ordinance 202103
[17:28] with the changes
is there a second
[17:32] i said properly move sorry we accept the
adopt ordinance a minute changes those
[17:37] who are favored singapore saying ah
those who oppose same song mostly
[17:44] like to make a second call for second
motion to
[17:50] about this up the resolution regarding
the permit process with
[17:55] out the 25
requirements
[18:04] there's two fees one's for the premises
the others for each of the license
[18:10] holders that would apply at twos there's
two fees in this ordinance so
[18:15] given twenty-five dollars twenty-five
dollars is what was set for the
[18:19] establishment
we hadn't received a number yet on what
[18:23] it would be for each of the
do you have another copy of that
[18:28] yeah you have a copy here i always see
25
[18:32] i don't see that right there's another
blank in paragraph b
[18:36] that that's 20 you want that to be 25
too that's fine it's like you think we
[18:41] should adopt that resolution the
requirement of the application process
[18:44] without any fees and tax okay then you
would not adopt this resolution that's
[18:49] what the commissioners
wish it's up to you
[19:03] we would put
we would make the necessary amendment in
[19:08] the ordinance to remove the fee
for its sign
[19:16] if that's the way you go
so we keep
[19:24] in-person design tactics
uh written applications
[19:28] everybody still does all that
right that's it what we're saying is
[19:34] the establishment fills out an
application each of the
[19:39] licensed operators fills out
a license form an application form
[19:45] what you're deciding do you want to
charge a fee for each of those
[19:50] or not
[20:14] i'll make a motion about resolution
2022-02
[20:19] um would like to amend that
to
[20:25] eliminate any fees involved in the
applications or
[20:29] hit the establishment
right so if if you're not going to
[20:34] charge any fees then you don't need to
adopt this resolution
[20:38] and we'll make that amendment in the
ordinance
[20:42] removing the need for a fee
[20:59] but it's a
important part about the application
[21:02] process
well the application process is stated
[21:05] in the ordinance we're just going to
remove the need for a fee yes fair
[21:10] experiment
[21:29] this resolution is dead yeah and there
aren't
[21:32] there's no need for it
[21:36] all right next time business
[21:44] also uh
there are two uh community residents if
[21:48] you all would like that opportunity to
comment uh
[21:52] you can uh this mean was originally
supposed to be close to publix i've
[21:56] never really operate in this regard
and the gentleman who walked in um after
[22:01] the media
and to tell you that the town was
[22:04] currently at compassionates at this
point
[22:07] it means uh supposed to be close to the
public he just cannot say he's okay this
[22:11] is a fair playing field and lose apply
to everyone so we can't just that is not
[22:16] what you're all i'm just like that's not
what the office said i called over there
[22:19] this morning she said there was limited
seating
[22:22] she did say that it was going to be
available also to skype then or cnn
[22:27] so that the public could have
interactive
[22:31] input into the meeting yes
um
[22:34] my only question at this point is
i heard something about 20 days
[22:39] is that is 20 days the point from which
he is able to start operating
[22:43] what 20 days is what is in the charter
for the effective date of any ordinance
[22:48] that's right it was adopted today okay
it will be signed when it is signed
[22:55] that's the start date when will that be
we've got to make this amendment and
[23:00] then get it down to the town so probably
within the next couple days
[23:04] okay
and then 20 days from there and then 20
[23:08] days from there
it's effective not to be this gentleman
[23:11] has waited and some of you are small
business owners
[23:15] five months
to get this business off the ground
[23:19] five months and he picked here because
he likes it here it's a it's a nice area
[23:24] to be and
you've asked a whole lot of them to try
[23:28] to be patient
and
[23:30] 20 days is 20 days is 20 days and we
just we want to have some clarity here
[23:37] about when this is going to be so i
appreciate your time
[23:40] and
i'm assuming that within the next
[23:44] 25 days he can be up and running is
there anything else he needs to
[23:48] do uh just give me one second i have a
question for you sure mr wilbur
[23:53] uh these are many changes that have to
be made which
[23:56] are that
will delay the entire thing but we were
[24:00] to pass this
resolution today requiring a 25 fee we
[24:04] would be able to sign this form now not
not lead to our changes on the outcomes
[24:10] town manager says there's also a board
of appeals
[24:14] process ongoing which is completely
separate
[24:21] how does that if we've got the ordinance
in place and it's
[24:25] why would there be a work of appeals
explain that to me
[24:34] and i also want to know um
now that it's passed or we've approved
[24:38] it
how soon can those applications be
[24:41] available for them i mean are we going
to be able to get all this stuff done if
[24:44] he's got to wait another 20 days will he
be able to have the applications filled
[24:48] out prior to that and
we didn't get these guys started in
[24:51] twenty-two should have been what this
young lady said
[24:55] i think
well we understand that i mean we
[24:59] understand
what's being said but
[25:03] you we
got to remember you
[25:06] you have a counselor that meets once a
month
[25:08] and you're making a major uh
on this
[25:12] uh we're making a major change right but
this came with this cam was kicked down
[25:15] the road several times i don't think it
was kicked down the road
[25:21] it's going through the administrative
process
[25:33] okay so because it's in the c2 all right
so the bottom line is mr wilbur upon
[25:37] signing these documents and he'll be
able to operate 20 days after that no
[25:42] because there's a special exception now
we're in a totally different area
[25:46] which is um
so because he's in the c2 district it's
[25:49] a special exception which requires him
to go before the board of appeals
[25:54] what is that process
he would make an application to the
[25:58] board of appeals the board of appeals um
i would
[26:01] contact the members of the board of
appeals and we would we would have to
[26:06] advertise that and they could meet
the earliest uh
[26:10] 30 days so we had to advertise it and
then they would meet
[26:13] and then uh
he would go before the board of appeals
[26:17] at that time
and then that's a process after that too
[26:21] well after that once he's approved that
there are conditions
[26:25] he would have to meet those conditions
so essentially
[26:30] you do not want him to open business in
prince's anne
[26:36] mr does the council have the ability to
override that and sort of allow
[26:40] allowance by the party
[26:44] the zoning code special exceptions go to
the board of appeals
[26:49] that's
completely separate is what the
[26:52] commission i didn't know the accounts
could allow operation until the meeting
[26:55] expired
no
[26:57] it does seem that we could
possibly get that board of appeals moved
[27:02] up a little sooner than 30 days is
it can while this 20-day period is
[27:09] moving i think we should move forward
with the special exception absolutely
[27:13] but i'm saying
we've got 20 days because of the charter
[27:17] we can't deal with why can't we have
that board of appeals prior to that 20
[27:22] days or within around the same time
so that basically within 20 days if
[27:27] we've got the applications filled out
everything goes through before the
[27:30] fields happens
that
[27:33] he doesn't he's not waiting another 30
days after 20 days or whatever that's
[27:36] what it seems like it's getting to you
stop start the process on the board of
[27:40] appeals right now
have a move concurrently right
[27:45] but does it have to be 30 days you said
30 days for the board of appeals to meet
[27:49] that doesn't seem
well what tip of this one is if we need
[27:52] to move it up it could be some other
things i believe there could be a
[27:56] meeting with the world
since next week
[28:00] to be determined may take a couple weeks
but we've got 20 days let's do it with
[28:03] that in 20 days
right and advertise and get it done
[28:07] within the 20 days and that way we're
not extending past that i mean i've got
[28:11] a hand right here
i've got a i've got a business license
[28:16] signed by the town princess zane about
five signatures on it i paid money for
[28:21] it and i'm wondering
why i had to get that and do all that
[28:26] stuff if i haven't been able to do
business in it yet i mean it went it
[28:31] touched everybody's office
[28:37] what you're running into now i had to go
through the same thing before with my
[28:40] business that i had but you're running
into problems with zoom so that's
[28:44] if you were in a district with your
business license that if you were in a
[28:48] zoned area that would allow that you're
just in another area that's zone that
[28:53] has that so you would have to get a
special reception from the climate zone
[28:59] in addition to the business there are
certain locations in town that you are
[29:03] allowed to operate in without having to
go through that procedure
[29:07] it's just it's his own problem now that
you're right
[29:11] and that's the problem that that's the
problem with the way the town charters
[29:15] set up historically
and it'll be great for a business that i
[29:19] had to
operate uh i had to go through planning
[29:22] this only especially
to be
[29:28] you have to go through it but i'm just
trying to see if there's um
[29:33] i mean we don't
[29:36] i thought we were going to treat every
business that tries to come into town
[29:40] we're going to we're going to make them
wait five six months to be able to get
[29:43] through they've got something i just
think we need to
[29:48] try to wrap this thing up again biggest
thing is scheduling
[29:58] who is the person
that is going to be responsible
[30:03] for contacting
is it robert is
[30:12] the town manager so what will happen is
after today's meeting i will contact the
[30:16] members of the board of appeals
get their earliest availability we'll
[30:21] start the
advertising
[30:23] process from there and then i'll set a
date
[30:29] do we have the applications available
for the business and the
[30:35] oh that's your artist
yes we can have those those available
[30:40] yes
well you can get those filled out and be
[30:43] prepared they're ready
as well
[30:47] so you all should at this point how you
should a communication with the town
[30:50] office and the town manager he's the one
responsible for the timing of this
[30:54] scheduling
and then you are out of it from this
[30:58] point forward it would just be the
zoning
[31:01] but the biggest benefit that you do have
upon dealing with planning zones is that
[31:06] the calculated class changes amendment
charter that allows tattoo
[31:11] shops to operate without positions so
that's huge
[31:15] for
for you guys going to present to work
[31:19] so hopefully they'll rule in your
favorites
[31:24] does your office take visitors
do you are you open for people every day
[31:31] um yes also he's he's going to schedule
the closed session meeting tonight he's
[31:35] supposed to be at six o'clock publicly
so he has a lot of discretion
[31:40] management aspect of things
as i was saying before
[31:45] we proceeded for the next time the
business of this was this over
[31:50] the public portion of it was closed as
jeremy walker afterwards
[31:54] mr garnett said it's okay for him to be
in here but this meeting is supposed to
[31:58] be
not to rule out the set board by our
[32:01] time management
so this time sir i would like to excuse
[32:05] you from the meeting because it was
close to the public it was scheduled to
[32:08] be exposed to the public and only
virtually either
[32:12] facebook page
i wear full contacts that's on this
[32:15] before i disagree
[32:22] next your next one
will be
[32:26] is there is there any recourse that aos
have or does he get to decide the
[32:30] meeting was close to the public show
that's the law mr return now if you want
[32:35] to have lawsuits coming to the town from
the community where others were allowed
[32:39] to attend and they weren't and
that's a serious problem but immediately
[32:43] scheduled to be closed it was
advertisement account facebook page
[32:47] webpage that the founder called me was
close to the public reversal
[32:55] if that's the way it was set up and
advertised to the public then
[32:59] it should be closed
down through zoom
[33:03] why didn't why did your office just tell
me that there were limited seats
[33:06] available either i sent an email off and
said this meeting should have been
[33:10] scheduled in the evening so the public
should have had the discretion be able
[33:14] to attend public meetings as they should
be should not have been at nine o'clock
[33:18] correct because the public is at work
right
[33:22] meaning
i have been advertised that's kind of
[33:26] very fair
i'm just going to be a fair person
[33:30] doesn't matter i don't care who likes it
or not but fair is fair
[33:33] i wouldn't use the word closed i would
say the public can attend by zoom
[33:39] it's an open public meeting attendance
by zoom yes sir correct
[33:45] electric direct yes sir
i've actually got to believe is there
[33:49] anywhere yeah
[34:18] to all this but
and i know you're trying to do your best
[34:23] but
it there's
[34:26] there's just so much
that i'm very concerned about
[34:31] i mean
you show up here and on this as a motion
[34:35] a second reading of a tattoo ordinance
however
[34:39] the ordinance wasn't even here
you had to send your assistant
[34:44] to go make copies for every single
person here
[34:47] what was the plan
i accept responsibility what was the
[34:52] plan going to be if that was not what
was out here ma'am the the ordinance
[34:55] should have been here and i accept
responsibility for not being here but
[34:59] the ordinance should have been here
and the copies were not present so that
[35:04] is on me and i accept responsibility
well i'll tell you the honest truth
[35:09] i've lived here a long time and i lived
away
[35:12] and i'm back
and i told robert when he first
[35:16] told me what he was interested in the
first thing i said is you need to hire a
[35:20] bulldog attorney
because they're going to drag it out and
[35:23] drag it out and he said no no
i need to work with these people
[35:28] and i need to work with these people in
this town
[35:31] and
[35:34] i'm five months later i take offense i
take offense
[35:39] your comment
i should say sitting at this table
[35:43] i'm not here to listen somebody said i
purposely drag on dragon on something
[35:49] when we meet monthly
trying to
[35:53] uh feel about the goodness of this
family
[35:55] shouldn't take this long the federal
government moves faster than this
[35:59] the federal government can move faster
than this and that's saying something it
[36:03] should not take this long i have a right
to say that
[36:06] as a constituent in this county
things should not take this long the
[36:10] fact that we walked in here
and the paperwork was not here
[36:15] for something that is on this agenda is
inexcusable
[36:19] i have an issue with it
i hope you're taking notes
[36:23] i feel like at this point and i
appreciate mr town manager that you're
[36:28] going to move forward with this but
this needs to be taken care of and it
[36:32] it's not fair
it's just not being fair that's all i
[36:36] have to say and i do appreciate your
time and everything all the every all
[36:42] the work i know it's a lot of work i
appreciate everything you've done it's
[36:45] just
it shouldn't it should it shouldn't be
[36:48] like this i've been in a lot of
different places and i see how things go
[36:52] and i understand
how
[36:54] administration should work and it just
seems like that it's
[36:58] it's not cohesive
[37:02] that's and i guess that's it for us so
um i'll wait to hear from the town
[37:08] manager
oh god
[37:12] i'm lynn powell
it's been hard for me to come to these
[37:16] meetings
and not speak
[37:20] some of you are maybe retired
some of you aren't i think you all have
[37:26] income
you all have income of some kind
[37:31] robert has had no grants
[37:35] he has worked hard to save his money for
this opportunity
[37:39] he is a constituent and i've heard
several of you say
[37:43] you're worried about your constituent he
is a constituent
[37:50] no
income
[37:53] all this time he hangs on he hangs on he
hangs on
[37:59] no this is not fair it is not supposed
to work this way
[38:04] it is not
this is not looking after the welfare
[38:10] of the people who live here and the
people who want to move here
[38:17] now i have plans about a business here
you know something i think i need to
[38:21] scrap it
because i wouldn't wait this long
[38:26] i'm trying to be supportive of him
and like her i'm thinking
[38:31] just from the first month
he needed to get an attorney walk away
[38:36] and let the attorney handle it
but he was trying to save his you know
[38:41] financial resources
he shouldn't have to get an attorney
[38:46] for something really this simple
it seems so simple
[38:51] and yet
here we are
[38:55] here we are
so i just have to say how i feel no
[38:59] income and it's like
no concern
[39:06] thank you
[39:23] all right have the next item of business
of the arp business assistance
[39:27] resolution
[39:29] at this time like the attorney meeting
over vice president
[39:54] actually taking the pundits
forward the resolution number
[39:58] 20
2201
[40:03] and uh you want to
read to this uh
[40:08] mr attorney george you want me to read
it or do you want to read it
[40:12] it's a resolution of the president and
town commissioners of the town president
[40:16] to allocate funds from the american
rescue plan to respond to public health
[40:22] emergencies and to meet urgent community
needs because of the economic impact of
[40:27] cobalt 19 whereas
funds are available to the town of
[40:31] princeton under the american rescue plan
which can be allocated to meet the
[40:35] urgent needs of community because of
negative
[40:39] economic impact with coke at 19 and
whereas the american rescue plan
[40:43] award funds are designed to respond to
public health emergencies and meet
[40:48] urgent
community needs
[40:50] and whereas the community commissioners
of the town presenting desire to provide
[40:55] economic support and the need for small
businesses
[40:59] located and registered with the town of
princess and and whereas the maximum
[41:04] benefit to a small business shall not
exceed
[41:07] two thousand
five hundred
[41:10] two thousand five hundred per business
advocate
[41:14] and whereas the maximum allocation for
small business
[41:18] shall not
exceed 125 thousand dollars
[41:22] now therefore had been resolved by
president commissioners of
[41:26] princess zane
have determined that the community and
[41:29] citizens of town princess am would
benefit
[41:32] from the american rescue plan award fund
to provide economic support
[41:37] and relief to small businesses
located and registered within the town
[41:41] of furniture as far as
business applicant must employ 10 people
[41:47] or less
business applicant must
[41:51] be registered with the state of maryland
state of maryland
[41:54] or somerset county as a business in the
corporate boundaries of the town of
[41:58] prince's land prior to august 1st 2021
business after must be in good financial
[42:06] standing
with the town of princess lane without
[42:09] any any outstanding bills taxes or liens
business applicant must provide
[42:15] government-issued photo identification
business applicant must provide a copy
[42:21] or business license
if any african owned
[42:25] if an applicant owns multiple businesses
only one business
[42:29] shall be eligible for a benefit
non-profit corporations and community
[42:34] organizations did not qualify for the
for the benefit
[42:39] the benefit shall be 2 500
per
[42:43] business to be eligible
business advocate must file an
[42:46] application by
march 1st 2022.
[42:52] the above resolution was introduced and
read past regular meeting
[42:56] of
and president and commissioners
[42:59] of
princeton on
[43:02] land day
of
[43:05] 2022 and should become effective
immediately upon adoption what is your
[43:12] are there any discussions
[43:18] we already discussed here because march
1st now that we're almost into february
[43:23] it was march 1st
um enough time
[43:28] get the application in
i would
[43:33] i would say march first would yes
[43:37] [Music]
[43:41] how would this be promoted
by you know i would i'm sorry i
[43:45] apologize for that i would i would think
we would need more time besides march
[43:49] 1st because we've got to advertise
and
[43:52] um people time for the word to spread a
little bit i mean
[43:56] that would be 100
well i would say probably um
[44:02] may i i would say probably june at the
very latest
[44:08] to give people an opportunity to apply
for junior first
[44:16] so they'll have from okay the past that
they do have from
[44:21] uh
[44:24] what dates to what days
march
[44:29] right two o'clock so they would from i
guess the date the resolution passes
[44:34] until uh june june
[44:40] to apply
so that gives everyone at least four
[44:43] four to five months to get their
application
[44:46] and it gives us an opportunity to
[44:54] one of the things i'm looking at doing
with this is
[44:58] having a mailer sent out to all of the
all of the
[45:02] businesses so it gives us time to
to do that advertise via social media
[45:08] and things like that so
i would say june 1st is good
[45:29] you know with anything else
[45:43] the election with the first that it
won't happen
[45:54] any question about processes
[46:02] so to be make me
make this clear
[46:05] clear understand you can if you have
multiple business you cannot get only
[46:10] one only one
[46:39] myself from the initial
[46:50] any other question
discussion
[46:55] do you have anything
uh
[46:58] i think you should move if you want to
make a tune first then you should
[47:04] and if
two of you are going to accuse then the
[47:09] vote would be
by the other three which is a quorum and
[47:13] majority
[47:17] something about changing the date is he
allowed to do that
[47:20] no
both of you should not participate in
[47:24] any voting on this well well you know
well even the recommendation of changing
[47:28] the date to june 1st or whatever march
the 1st of june versus this statement
[47:33] that he just made
started that whole conversation is he
[47:36] allowed
[47:51] dale you had a
question
[47:53] also about today
you know i i just looked it up because i
[47:58] was i said i i know people will be on
like the same thing as day before the
[48:02] election
or whatever but apparently the election
[48:06] will be on june the 7th first
of the month
[48:10] so
it's still a whole lot like a whole week
[48:14] you know
anyway i didn't want everything before
[48:17] together so you know like crunch time
somebody decided to put education at
[48:22] last minute or
something or they try to get stuff you
[48:25] know organized whatever so i think that
so i think junior first would be good
[48:29] because
i mean you still got a whole week before
[48:32] the election
[48:46] them you know
[48:51] i don't think i would like people to
wait till the last day or the last week
[48:54] you know to print them for this
yeah
[49:00] but the money would be the money
wouldn't be
[49:03] um
awarded anyways they have to go to june
[49:06] first right
yeah okay
[49:10] well i mean it all depends on when your
application comes in so okay so if you
[49:14] if you wait until the last day then you
have to be awarded after june 1st but
[49:19] if you come in as soon as
you hear about it and you're eligible
[49:23] then
either way i'd be the first 50 witnesses
[49:26] either way
first come first serve
[49:30] yeah it was a question um is there
applications already ready for
[49:34] businesses not yet okay
but they will be
[49:40] i think
[49:43] to move this
from march first to june
[49:48] give people opportunities to take
advantage of
[49:52] the
offer here
[50:07] pointed out i did mention something here
so if that if
[50:11] that disqualifies me from this i'm going
to step away and say i'm going to vote
[50:15] on this and i'm not going to participate
in this at all
[50:19] um
if that's the case i don't want any
[50:22] discrepancies on anything
um you know
[50:26] i'm a small administrator it would be a
great help for doing 50 businesses in
[50:30] town that it could help so if i need to
stop sorry
[50:34] so initially i don't have to i don't
either i mean i just i won't participate
[50:39] in the program
it's
[50:41] each council person's
decision whether they want to recuse or
[50:46] not i know but once i
once i mentioned that like he said then
[50:50] i probably have disqualified myself for
refusing right
[50:54] nate
not to hold things up if you're not
[50:57] participating to participate if you're
not don't hold things up for the rest of
[51:01] the community i'm carrying businesses
out i think i think i'm i'm the navy
[51:05] there's another oh sorry i think i'm
leading this right now
[51:09] so
right right now we the process
[51:14] the process is legal right i mean so far
addressing commissioner parker's
[51:20] concerns
if you
[51:25] are not going to participate in this
program
[51:28] and you wish to vote on this
that would be permitted
[51:33] if you wish to permissive
participate in this program then you
[51:38] should recuse
for voting
[51:41] the fact that you have commented about
it already i don't think that uh because
[51:47] public comments as well
yeah okay
[51:51] the main thing is
getting this for the businesses the
[51:54] people who deserve it not holding things
up you know
[51:58] if the application process start a lot
of people apply
[52:03] yes okay oh the bottom line is
commissioner gardner
[52:08] can make his own decision if he wishes
to recuse or not i'm going to i'm going
[52:13] to recuse and i will decide later
[52:18] uh does the business have to be open
prior to covet for
[52:22] it doesn't matter
[52:26] it has to be registered with the state
of maryland or somerset county as a
[52:29] business in the corporate boundaries of
the town of princess and prior to august
[52:34] 1st 2021. uh
[52:43] all right
[52:57] okay
[53:13] the people that really need it
[53:17] you guys want to hold things up again
but i think humanity is
[53:41] hate from the attorney this town man do
you have anything
[53:46] all right there any other questions in
in your chat
[53:50] no
okay seeing none what's your pleasure
[54:01] is there a motion to accept resolution
i'll make a move to check resolutions
[54:10] okay uh then
is that with the amendment moving in uh
[54:15] the
application from march the first yes to
[54:19] june yeah
so to the elderly business applicant
[54:24] must file an application back june
yes
[54:29] all right yes
[54:32] so probably moving a second we accept
the application
[54:36] and accept the resolution number 20
20
[54:40] 20 2201 with the
uh with the amendments
[54:47] any further discussion
i don't have that
[54:50] all in
[54:54] those opposed
motion pack the resolution passes three
[55:00] zero
[55:06] so this would be advertised from through
the town office
[55:10] yes in our local community
here's the first question we had about
[55:14] the tax credit
how was it advertising
[55:18] right they
[55:22] deadline for that was advertised on
december 31st but town hall was closed
[55:28] on the 31st so there were many residents
who weren't able to put their elderly
[55:33] elderly tax credits so i was wondering
if we could perhaps extend that
[55:37] tax that deadline so they could still
apply i know right after that we had the
[55:43] snowstorm that came so the town office
would close that delayed the process as
[55:48] well but there's still a bunch of
options out there
[55:50] running
but we would advertise it for the
[55:54] 31st december as a deadline that becomes
another
[55:58] agenda
[56:04] if you're going to extend the date then
you need to bring that resolution back
[56:09] and amend it to extend the date
okay
[56:13] before we get past another resolution to
um allow that
[56:18] asset again for the year 2022
and then that resolution the ones who
[56:23] then uh
apply for 21 could still apply
[56:28] 21-22
i think what we've got to do is
[56:32] reference the
one that already passed yes and then
[56:37] state that the commissioner's desire to
extend
[56:40] the
termination date you
[56:48] or we could go back and then that
resolution so that it could be awarded
[56:52] for the fiscal year 21 and 22 correct
and extend that deadline so that they
[56:58] can apply and when they do apply it'll
be reimbursed for 21. let's let's pull
[57:02] up the resolution and look at what's
worthy
[57:04] but that's another thing agenda island i
would like to have is us look into
[57:10] establishing that same sort of uh tax
credit for this fiscal year 2022 as well
[57:16] because it's very successful for 21 and
many of our elderly rights that's really
[57:21] benefited from it so
i'd like to propose an additional
[57:25] resolution
for
[57:27] establishing the tax credit for
this festive year as well
[57:34] another thing
i
[57:37] reached out to the council for
resolution
[57:40] to potentially
postpone our new year's resolution
[57:45] celebration because of the opposite
in light of today's meeting that's
[57:50] convenient today
[58:00] because i received notification that the
recent local park commission
[58:05] met on friday for a group photo and the
council we haven't even introduced the
[58:09] renewable card committee yet but it was
arranged by karen samus for group photo
[58:13] and really that's something that should
be introduced by the council going to
[58:17] public meetings so before any photos are
released for press release from the
[58:21] newspaper
the council or the president
[58:23] commissioner cervantes
be allowed the opportunity to introduce
[58:27] this new commission that i propose
to the public
[58:31] so
that's that's an issue
[58:34] but that's another thing i did do you
admit the agenda that had that item to
[58:38] it this is under my commissioner's
poundless what's been done
[58:42] and that's what main reason why i feel
this meeting this public meeting today
[58:45] was
suppose it was rescheduled for this
[58:48] morning to not allow the public to
attend at six o'clock uh and that photo
[58:52] being taken so early on this friday
you know that's that's something that's
[58:56] supposed to be an agenda that's supposed
to be on the agenda the introduction of
[59:01] the monogamous park commission
that's high in the work of this council
[59:04] the great work has been done it's just
not right
[59:07] so before i'd like our attorneys the
bottom line is we didn't get credit for
[59:11] it
right now the public the president of
[59:13] the commission should be allowed the
same way you're allowing a public
[59:17] member to come into a meeting that's not
allowed for everyone
[59:20] is the same
way you're breaking the fall here it's
[59:23] not fair it's not right
and what they did on the agenda for the
[59:28] next for february mia i think we should
introduce the enough park commission
[59:32] our public meeting or a call to a
special need to have that introduced but
[59:36] that's members when you have members of
the commission wondering why something
[59:40] like this is happening the commission
doesn't have the opportunity to
[59:42] introduce the
newly formed committee that's just not
[59:47] right
that should be on the agenda mr town
[59:50] manager while you're here all right well
with response to that i
[59:55] what the what the members of the
monogamy park commission did i had no
[1:00:00] idea that was there they were all
informed that they were originally to be
[1:00:04] introduced
at the june i missed the january meeting
[1:00:08] that that was canceled i sent them all
an email informing them that they
[1:00:12] wouldn't that
they would be introduced at a later date
[1:00:15] i didn't give them the time yet because
i was trying to afford the commissioners
[1:00:20] an opportunity
to let me know what day that would
[1:00:22] happen so you've just said it's going to
be february so it'll be fabulous sir i'm
[1:00:27] the one before you
before you were notified about that and
[1:00:30] it wasn't even on the agenda last month
or january without the park commission
[1:00:34] no introduction i wasn't even on the
agenda for saying word i call them up
[1:00:39] invited every member to be president
of the two days prior to the january
[1:00:43] meeting to be there it wasn't an agenda
anymore in january either no yes sir i
[1:00:48] thought it was no sir it wasn't it's
sent out it wasn't on the agenda i had
[1:00:53] emails i sent out to the council saying
that another part connecting should be
[1:00:57] on the agenda it wasn't all content
i thought around invited me just
[1:01:01] finished saying that we couldn't have
people in the ring as a result of that
[1:01:06] as a result of that the meeting that's
supposed to be at 6 30 for the public it
[1:01:09] was closed
it's gathered from nine o'clock this
[1:01:11] morning so everyone kept the pen and the
photo was just taken on friday so look
[1:01:15] let me know
you know let me also address that
[1:01:18] because i think what you're trying to
say is there was some
[1:01:22] conspiracy yesterday and there there's
not
[1:01:25] as i mentioned and indicated before
whenever there's been a legislative or
[1:01:30] work session it's been at night and the
legislative was rescheduled it's been at
[1:01:34] nine o'clock
on the third monday now the last time
[1:01:39] this happened was i think it was june 15
2020 the exact conditions that we're in
[1:01:43] today if you look at that agenda which i
followed the guidelines on that agenda
[1:01:50] there was a state of emergency in june
15 2020
[1:01:53] which is exactly what we're in today
the meeting was closed
[1:01:59] because of that state of emergency i
followed the precedent that i had before
[1:02:05] there me
a conspiracy to do anything
[1:02:07] i followed up that precedent
and that's it if you want to change it
[1:02:12] and do it differently that's up to the
commissioner but but but i'm not going
[1:02:16] to sit here and allow you to accuse me
of something that i didn't do
[1:02:20] yes sir but i would advise you not to
follow any precedent from any hit the
[1:02:24] previous town manager that's the number
one but for june 15 2020 there was no
[1:02:28] town manager anything that the town
manager or previous administration was
[1:02:32] doing but on top of that the bottom line
is it wasn't an agenda item i would like
[1:02:37] it to be in the item in the introduction
of another commission whether
[1:02:42] you're saying it's foul play or not it
should be on the agenda for the
[1:02:45] president and commission to introduce
the northern part commission it wasn't
[1:02:48] on the january agenda
[1:02:52] i don't see this so much uh anybody
needed to try and reject it
[1:02:59] why isn't it on the agenda i just that
they're having like carrick sam was
[1:03:03] having a proud meeting when we should
have shut down the muskrat drop of
[1:03:06] denton but we're shutting down this
morning and the public should be allowed
[1:03:10] to attend
and the photos were taken on friday they
[1:03:13] can meet for a photo to be taken she got
arranged that's why you have other
[1:03:17] members of this committee wondering
what's going on well i think we're
[1:03:19] talking about two different issues here
i'm sure it's not right we need it to be
[1:03:23] on the agenda the introduction of the
park commission
[1:03:27] on the agenda i think that is if you
want to be
[1:03:30] like
like that's that's the question what the
[1:03:33] first man in february yeah that's what i
just i just said
[1:03:38] like you had it on the immediate agenda
that's why i just said
[1:03:42] i would go where i'd like to have the
introduction of notepad commission
[1:03:46] on the agenda for february
uh
[1:03:49] do we know do they i'm just asking or do
they plan on releasing something to the
[1:03:54] to the public i
i i don't know why they
[1:03:59] took the photos i don't know what that
was about i don't know if they planned
[1:04:02] to make it i don't know
um
[1:04:05] but i can reach out to them and let them
know that they should not do any of that
[1:04:09] before
they are formally introduced so i'll do
[1:04:13] that today
you said that carrie is the person that
[1:04:16] organized it i'll make sure i reach out
to her and
[1:04:18] and
anyone else for that matter
[1:04:22] to make sure that there are no
press releases before
[1:04:25] they're formally introduced so i'll take
care of that today thank you sir
[1:04:30] next i am the business
the department head department
[1:04:35] to start with the chief police
thank you president commissioner good
[1:04:40] morning um
december
[1:04:44] uh attended the csc advisory board
meeting uh provided security in
[1:04:49] traffic control for the christmas parade
new year's eve celebration
[1:04:53] regular town meetings were scheduled
we also hosted the winner one online
[1:04:57] abandoned civic center this year it's
only been held at one of the schools
[1:05:00] music in the green board of princeton
elementary this year was at the uh
[1:05:03] civic center
well attended or 400 people there
[1:05:08] 100 families received gifts and
donations
[1:05:12] which were
they were very grateful for
[1:05:15] during the month of december we had 362
calls for service
[1:05:18] almost 93 of those are closed um
not
[1:05:35] monthly grant available horses were done
you know down there the new county-wide
[1:05:40] rms system was set to go live we're live
now we're still working through some
[1:05:43] issues but we are we are getting up to
speed and moving forward with that
[1:05:48] um unless you're aware of the i.t issues
we've been having
[1:05:53] it's been brought up and
discussed many times
[1:05:57] i'm working through those trying to keep
the department running so that the
[1:05:59] citizens of town
don't have any laps in service or that
[1:06:04] we provide to them
that's all i've got unless you have any
[1:06:07] questions for me
thank you sir
[1:06:11] also on the previous uh
yeah
[1:06:16] mr
[1:06:22] [Music]
[1:06:28] the department collected 74.8 tons of
trash in december
[1:06:32] the drainage project on bedford avenue
have been completed the second gas pump
[1:06:38] has been installed at public works in
the door complying
[1:06:41] the new trash truck
is up and running great also
[1:06:46] the detractor
phase two of the election house is just
[1:06:50] about completed
we are still waiting on parts for the
[1:06:53] fans as soon as they come in to work
we'll start
[1:06:58] well let me um so jane
really quickly the drainage project on
[1:07:02] bedford avenue um
that was the project that came before
[1:07:07] the commissioners it was the complaint
from from a resident yes and um
[1:07:12] we went out we took a look at it
and determined that
[1:07:16] it was part of the responsibility of the
town
[1:07:20] and uh
they repaired it yes and they also
[1:07:24] re repaid so the drainage issue is done
yes so we shouldn't receive any more
[1:07:29] complaints about that
and phase two of the election house
[1:07:34] renovation just kind of give
give an update as to what what that what
[1:07:38] that looks like we're we're sanding the
floors now
[1:07:41] well the floor is completely sand and
stained and everything
[1:07:45] and uh we put these shoes against the
walls and painted those
[1:07:50] and what we have left is the lighting
that's the last thing
[1:08:03] we have working restrooms there now and
everything's good we've got yeah
[1:08:13] speaking of the election house i was
hoping when could we be proactive and
[1:08:16] have the ribbon cutting
the election house pressure please for
[1:08:19] that as well
uh we had originally agreed to
[1:08:22] commissions that originally agreed
around march
[1:08:25] of march of this year
so that's that's so that's where that's
[1:08:29] where we are we've got the floors done
yeah so basically now it's we're just
[1:08:33] looking at getting the exterior done
there was some vandalism and damage that
[1:08:37] we are taking care of there but so the
interior's done the exterior should be
[1:08:41] done
um probably by early february and then
[1:08:44] we'll move with the ribbon cutting in
march okay
[1:08:48] well honestly
we it i don't know
[1:08:52] if it was i think vandalism they knocked
uh what are the those concrete domes
[1:08:58] oh yeah the
[1:09:05] help our uh maybe collab with the police
department he did
[1:09:08] get some surveillance cameras out there
because there were people camping out
[1:09:12] there late at night
things of that nature
[1:09:15] i believe there was a damn body film
there many years ago before
[1:09:19] i think while we have funding available
to invest in the technology
[1:09:24] to help combat some of these uh
evangelisms
[1:09:29] so i'd like to work in the veterinarian
chief of mission town manager
[1:09:46] [Music]
and with respect to the park at
[1:09:52] our executive team meeting we did
discuss
[1:09:55] the park and added patrols at the park
in addition to also having
[1:10:00] some cameras there we do have people
that
[1:10:03] sleep in some of the park equipment over
there we've got um
[1:10:07] every morning we've got public works
picking up
[1:10:10] quite a bit of trash over there so those
are the things we had discussed that a
[1:10:14] few weeks back
and we're going to be putting those
[1:10:16] those things
in order one of the big delays to that
[1:10:21] and to the camera
is that we are moving away from our
[1:10:24] current i.t consultant so until we get
our new it person and we get this
[1:10:30] situation with it dissolved by the end
of the month we're not going to move
[1:10:34] forward in installing new
camera equipment and things like that
[1:10:38] but that is
on the agenda
[1:10:41] for probably the month of february
is is there a plan right now or what's
[1:10:46] the what is the situation with the
public restrooms at the park are they
[1:10:51] accessible at all now or they keep being
kept blocked only during the event
[1:10:56] so right now the public restrooms we've
got the one at lanoken park and it's
[1:11:00] only accessible during events uh we
don't have it open
[1:11:04] uh
during the day no so it's so uh if you
[1:11:08] went to the park you could you wouldn't
be able to use that restaurant unless
[1:11:10] there was a scheduled event
another thing for our commission can
[1:11:14] look into how to change that well during
the summer right now it's probably not
[1:11:18] bad then using the swings but right
during the summer when it's more active
[1:11:21] it would be nice to have a public
restroom access
[1:11:39] so right now it's just a matter of
resources and equipment that's it so
[1:11:43] that's all we're waiting on right now
that's it
[1:12:04] oh yeah i'd like to give a special uh
thank you to our public works department
[1:12:08] as well this month uh we've had some
really cold mornings maybe not just at
[1:12:12] six five to six o'clock in the morning
time operations are functioning
[1:12:19] thank god
[1:12:24] um
[1:12:30] [Music]
[1:12:36] all right
um we submitted the final report for
[1:12:39] grant
cl2015 that this was a grant that the
[1:12:43] town actually applied for and it was
awarded uh back in 2015
[1:12:48] and that grant is it paid several
streets uh throughout the town and um i
[1:12:53] had to submit the final report for that
uh i met with pete lackey from the state
[1:12:58] planning department to discuss the
somerset drainage project
[1:13:01] um and what the next steps are moving
forward there
[1:13:05] um so we have a meeting scheduled with
with the county because they also review
[1:13:10] the somerset drainage project and that
meeting is scheduled for tomorrow i
[1:13:14] believe it's at 10 o'clock but
uh i'm pretty sure it's at 10.
[1:13:18] uh if that's the not the right pile i'll
definitely update
[1:13:22] everyone the town executed
an agreement with reynolds to begin work
[1:13:28] on the beckford avenue project which was
grant that we
[1:13:33] were awarded in 2017 and that's the
crosswalk crosswalk sidewalk project
[1:13:40] so we're on track there
[1:13:43] i work with the town attorney to draft
mural agreements with the property
[1:13:47] owners that have agreed to have the
murals painted on
[1:13:50] on on their buildings
i haven't received a signed agreement
[1:13:55] yet but
[1:14:00] oh okay all right
um
[1:14:04] so i received one and i'm waiting for it
for the other
[1:14:07] um
and you may have been receiving some
[1:14:10] calls
from residents regarding
[1:14:14] notices that they received about their
trial service
[1:14:17] we did issue
the individuals that received those
[1:14:20] notices that their trash service would
be discontinued
[1:14:23] were
[1:14:27] residents that hadn't paid that trash
bill
[1:14:29] on average for between two to five years
so
[1:14:33] uh we did require that those individuals
pay that pay their trash or at least set
[1:14:37] up a payment plan so we're not turning
anyone away if they want to set up a
[1:14:42] payment plan and they can't afford five
years of that
[1:14:45] um
uh payments we'll be definitely set up
[1:14:49] payment arrangements for anyone who's
called us
[1:14:53] let me shut up the payment with the
chance stuff to be picked up or other
[1:14:58] checks will still be paid out they'll
still be picked up so there's not going
[1:15:01] to be
your service isn't going to stop we're
[1:15:04] just asking just call if you if you can
pay it in full great if you can't
[1:15:08] then make payment arrangements
and
[1:15:11] and we'll pick up pick up your trash but
um there were approximately 18 this
[1:15:16] affected approximately 88 res miles
so
[1:15:20] and typically they were between two and
five years
[1:15:23] that there may be some that may
fall under that but the vast majority
[1:15:29] hadn't paid in two to five years
and i think a big reason for that and i
[1:15:34] think we're going to also
inform residents as well
[1:15:38] i think
and i don't have the exact history of it
[1:15:42] but at some point
the fees were
[1:15:46] a part of taxes and then they were
removed from taxes i think you know
[1:15:50] perhaps people just you know you pay the
tax bill or
[1:15:53] the mortgage company pays it and you're
not really paying attention to it so
[1:15:57] um
and and a lot of people were really
[1:16:00] unaware that they hadn't paid they
thought this was part of their
[1:16:03] uh
it was a part of their taxes so
[1:16:08] and that's it for the account management
all right questions
[1:16:16] um
season
[1:16:19] nominee for january
[1:16:24] one at all or what you mean america
[1:16:29] well this is james we're in january
right now
[1:16:31] i know we're nominated for december for
january's meeting so this week we'll be
[1:16:36] seated today and nomination potentially
february next week
[1:16:42] but today
this is our public meeting
[1:16:45] so next stop we have help
[1:16:56] now's the time to be proactive because
we didn't nominate this much so now if
[1:17:00] you want to nominate someone for next
month today will be the time to make the
[1:17:04] nomination
if you have something
[1:17:10] we don't have to do it they know what
you well
[1:17:35] my recommendation for the next month
will be diamond
[1:17:38] uh
[1:17:41] she's on the uh local park commission
but she's been doing a lot of great
[1:17:45] leads in the community
um we work together for the top 10
[1:17:49] community guard
suggested
[1:17:52] our garden and she's always out in the
community to be a proactive
[1:17:57] great things i think she's worthy of the
town of very work
[1:18:02] i'd like to make that nomination if
you're supportive of the dead
[1:18:07] february
[1:18:16] [Music]
[1:18:23] so
uh
[1:18:26] for all the thank you for
steining for the february very prepared
[1:18:30] world
yeah
[1:18:32] yeah
mr answered
[1:18:36] among all the commissioners that i
missed
[1:18:39] on the uh milton park commission as the
american american secretary all right
[1:18:46] how many people have started
any further i said
[1:18:51] no
i'm just going to thank our public works
[1:18:55] and our uh public safety departments who
are all very hard work stay safe at
[1:18:59] harris hope
[1:19:03] did great work on our
front office as well appreciate all the
[1:19:07] good
hard work keeping us informed thank you
[1:19:11] thank you sir
mr wilbur uh are we going to do the work
[1:19:16] session tonight
right you would want to adjourn the
[1:19:19] legislative session and then open up the
work sessions
[1:19:26] this time
and no further discussion i would like
[1:19:29] to call promotion
to adjourn
[1:19:33] through our work session for
[1:19:38] going to our group session
journey
[1:19:42] sergeant
probably will live in second believe
[1:19:45] general public town hall me and those
who are famously fathers saying ah
[1:19:53] uh this time we don't have to call for a
motion to start the work session we will
[1:19:56] start
this time thus uh and uh begins the
[1:20:01] monthly work session for the town of
princess anne on this day of january 19
[1:20:06] 2022
[1:20:09] following the 9 o'clock a.m public town
hall meeting
[1:20:14] so this time
me has been called to order for our work
[1:20:18] session
um is there a motion
[1:20:21] well this is the same agenda so we don't
need another motion to accept the
[1:20:25] recession
[1:20:28] so the next item business for our work
session will be
[1:20:32] chesapeake utilities assessment
presentation which is
[1:20:39] been moved to february
and
[1:20:43] next item investment after that will be
the resolution to sell two jump cars
[1:20:49] um
if i can interrupt
[1:20:53] the
the two junk cars moving out to february
[1:20:57] is there i mean is there any
i haven't heard anything about you of
[1:21:01] course or something
tell us
[1:21:06] we entered into a lease agreement with
enterprises you are aware of this
[1:21:09] pleasure
i've got two two chargers now
[1:21:14] that are
one has the blue motor the other one the
[1:21:19] cpu which is the main computer in the
car is
[1:21:22] shock
so for two thousand dollars for cpu new
[1:21:25] motors between eight and ten thousand
pounds you can get it from people to
[1:21:28] them for you
[1:21:32] these are two vehicles that are sent to
afghan to be
[1:21:36] turned over to enterprise as part of the
lease agreement
[1:21:40] and the money and you know enterprise
they sell them they've got a bigger
[1:21:43] market they're going to explain to you
guys
[1:21:46] and you presented it before i didn't
meet you you'd have to go through no no
[1:21:49] i didn't i hear some backstory here that
you need to be aware of
[1:21:52] there's one of our consignment people
there before every auctioneer does it
[1:21:56] every friend that sells at their feet
it's whatever they're giving us 500
[1:21:59] hours for each one of these vehicles
we're going to make 100
[1:22:06] i've got offers on two of them i don't
know who the people are but i've had our
[1:22:10] offers calls come in their names written
down in the office it would come into
[1:22:13] the department for 800 hours a piece for
vehicles
[1:22:16] which would make us 1600 which would go
towards our lease agreement automatic
[1:22:20] right off the top instead of us
making one hundred dollars
[1:22:27] it's it would seem that way it would
seem that way um
[1:22:32] but i've been in the conference
conversation with mr anderson and
[1:22:37] this is the foreign to have people kind
of presented and now
[1:22:40] so
yes sir so um
[1:22:44] all this is on the table uh
i'd like to uh i don't have any problem
[1:22:49] with the selling of the junkyard was at
their job but i would like to see them
[1:22:53] make it to the town the yearly town
auction so that
[1:22:57] there's not any like behind the scenes a
bid putting in for at least the public
[1:23:01] housing awareness or aware of it you can
put bids in okay that's fine and i
[1:23:06] understand your position but
historically speaking cars at public
[1:23:08] works go for 500 or less
[1:23:13] i purchased a few of them for over a
thousand dollars historically speaking
[1:23:16] most of the cars go for 500 or less yes
sir depending on the quality of it in
[1:23:20] the demand yeah
so um i like to see him make it to the
[1:23:23] public public auction you know because
that was a
[1:23:26] main thing for why um
we had a uh
[1:23:31] ordinance for
those established back in august blacks
[1:23:36] here stating that all
jump cars must go to the
[1:23:41] police auction
it must be at public discretion so the
[1:23:44] public could have a chance to federal
debt
[1:23:47] on
[1:23:50] what it comes down to is
these vehicles need to be declared
[1:23:54] surplus and then the commissioners can
decide do you want to sell them that
[1:23:59] public or private sale because
the commissioner's call
[1:24:03] to figure out if they're there you guys
are sitting in beds i'd like to put in a
[1:24:06] bed for a thousand dollars on what
someone has knows about it before i did
[1:24:10] i was able to put their
bed uh asking their everybody i've been
[1:24:14] on that you know i put my bed at a
thousand they've got a big one eight
[1:24:18] hundred
so um but i i was more so not about that
[1:24:22] i like the public have the
discretion to be able to buy these
[1:24:26] uh cars or at least bid a fair price i
understand your point and i understand
[1:24:31] you want to make available to the public
and if you want to buy it you give me a
[1:24:34] check for a thousand dollars i'll sell
it youtube here's my issue
[1:24:37] you're holding up my lease so i can't
get my new cars
[1:24:40] oh really
i've got two of my cars i can't get my
[1:24:44] next one do we have an auction on them
tomorrow i don't have enough cars that
[1:24:46] have an auction they're here and just
those two
[1:24:49] can we have an option to sell those
uh advertisements in public
[1:24:55] almost like a courthouse
it's fine i haven't advertised it 60
[1:24:59] days after every time before or 30. i
think it's 60 days i've advertised
[1:25:02] before i think we're gonna go that route
if that puts me in the market
[1:25:09] is there a way we can
surplus these and just store them until
[1:25:13] our auction yeah it's going to have to
be physically gone and so i'm trying to
[1:25:17] get my lease going now no no i
understand that i'm just saying is there
[1:25:21] a way to get the lease going by just
[1:25:39] plus whatever fees they're going to
charge us for
[1:25:42] what we need to get out of we this is a
situation where we need to get out of a
[1:25:46] obligation
right uh selling these cars is that
[1:25:50] correct
i need it's going to help me satisfy my
[1:25:55] part of my obligation isn't that right
so basically we would be
[1:25:59] we have an opportunity to satisfy the
application and get 200
[1:26:03] right would satisfy the obligation and
get 1600 toward new
[1:26:08] vehicles either way
going to auction may violate our
[1:26:12] agreement anyway because the surplus
vehicles we're not really going to have
[1:26:16] surplus vehicles that's a part of our
work the partners for this agreement
[1:26:19] everything's recycling we're basically
trading in right recouping any value
[1:26:23] left in it do we at least advertise it
on the town website and the town web
[1:26:27] page that these two vehicles aren't
yourself and set that's the company if
[1:26:30] you guys will pass the resolution i
hired me to do that absolutely yes sir
[1:26:34] that's what i heard on my page
it's a resolution for them to do that
[1:26:38] they're within their race correct right
there you need to do a resolution
[1:26:41] however you wish to sell it yes yeah the
method is saying that way everybody
[1:26:45] still have to be public but you guys
said we're gonna liquidate as soon as we
[1:26:48] can yes sir okay but still won't mess
you up for me
[1:26:53] i'm dragging along if we've got a plan
in place i'm pretty sure i can keep
[1:26:57] sliding down the road
how long can we advertise this to allow
[1:27:01] the events to come in to be reviewed
[1:27:17] right and as a part of that when you
sell the vehicles right
[1:27:21] the form of payment that we take would
only be cash or cashier's check yeah
[1:27:25] correct
so anyone that wants to purchase the
[1:27:28] vehicles has that cash or is checked yes
immediately
[1:27:34] that's how it's going to go yes yes all
right whatever date we decided to do it
[1:27:38] by
[1:27:41] what kind of quest time are you on
i'd say if we've got something in the
[1:27:45] works but i'm telling look we're going
to sell them ourselves now instead of
[1:27:48] giving you 400 to make 100
i
[1:27:52] i say i think i'm not 100 sure but i'm
pretty sure i can slide this down the
[1:27:55] road further to keep them from
saying what year are the vehicles i i
[1:27:59] don't have the information in europe
they're what i don't want to think about
[1:28:02] one of them is in 2012 and the other is
newer but i don't know how much newer i
[1:28:06] know when it was in 2012. i think that's
the one with the motor that is
[1:28:10] no good and they've been in storage for
what
[1:28:13] uh since live won since last spring one
since last summer august against
[1:28:17] september mr wilbur is there any um is
there anything that
[1:28:22] would keep us from allowing him to just
first come first certified
[1:28:38] i'm asking our other attorney mr well
it's the vote of the commissioners how
[1:28:44] these vehicles are going to be selling
yes
[1:28:46] there's public or private sale
and
[1:28:50] that's your call yes
everything you do should be public
[1:28:54] not proud this is this public office
everything we did should be public the
[1:28:59] advertising on the web page nothing to
be done or sold
[1:29:03] the beds coming in with that i would
talk to the rest of the public not
[1:29:07] knowing about or having the same fair
discretion so we're going to sell these
[1:29:10] cars the time frame of it should be
advertised on the town website facebook
[1:29:15] page and also the police department the
highest the highest price that comes in
[1:29:21] so we're going to now um we're going to
now um
[1:29:28] run an online auction is that what we're
doing
[1:29:33] it sounds like we've got all that
come in and open up bids
[1:29:50] not that
[1:29:55] so let's uh we will
i'll work with the chief i work with mr
[1:29:59] wilbur we'll figure out how
this will be advertised um but it is
[1:30:05] time sensitive because
it takes about two or three months just
[1:30:09] we get these vehicles and it takes about
two or three months just to get them out
[1:30:12] there right so if we can't get them in
then we can't start that process either
[1:30:18] so
i mean the turnaround time for
[1:30:20] advertisements today's wednesday so we
could open the advertising for just a
[1:30:24] week until next wednesday
i can't even have a resolution though
[1:30:28] you gotta have a resolution authorizing
whatever will be the process next
[1:30:32] meeting february 7th which is obviously
three weeks later
[1:30:37] so even if we were going to allow them
to
[1:30:40] give us the 500 and pay them 400 to sell
it um
[1:30:44] deal we'd still need a resolution to do
that
[1:30:48] well well that's a part of my release
agreement
[1:30:53] so i presented the leasing
during the budget
[1:30:56] last year anything beyond that would
cause it right we created regulations
[1:30:59] right the enterprise deal's been cut but
if you're going to go another direction
[1:31:04] even if he was to sell it to the people
that he has
[1:31:07] that have offered him a resolution right
yeah so either way
[1:31:13] amount of time we're dealing with so i'd
[1:31:28] coming in
[1:31:32] so we are
what you're recommending is that we have
[1:31:36] we have an auction
a bidding process sure it's just not an
[1:31:41] auction that requires the entire lot
that's out there it would just be these
[1:31:45] two parts that have been auctioned off
public options
[1:31:49] it's probably not private
i brought no private sales
[1:31:53] phone stuff public options government
surplus
[1:31:57] cover cause no it just got to be
advertised and all that great
[1:32:01] well we own them and i pretty much
correct myself mr president
[1:32:05] you you when you mentioned the inbound
lock cars that inbounded before those
[1:32:08] have to be advertised for 60 years we
own this vehicle
[1:32:20] yeah i mean we can blast it out i mean
if
[1:32:22] we get the resolution to pass on the
seventh
[1:32:25] um
[1:32:28] closer building on what you should give
a week give them to the 15th
[1:32:32] within seven days yes sir we could
always schedule a meeting again for next
[1:32:35] week
i need to do a special meeting just for
[1:32:37] that that's a lot of work for you guys
well it's just we work for the people so
[1:32:42] i don't see how hard we could meet if
you guys could develop a resolution that
[1:32:46] says tomorrow the council could
potentially need
[1:32:49] the kids to be in this process
[1:33:01] we sat here earlier
and listened to a gentleman that had to
[1:33:05] wait over six months
to be able to get his business started
[1:33:09] here and now you want to streamline and
and have a special meeting over 1600
[1:33:14] dollars in surplus cars let's not go off
topic
[1:33:34] for whatever i will i will
contact eric and and do what i can to
[1:33:39] you know
so
[1:33:42] um
you know
[1:33:45] however you want to have it i'm
agreeable
[1:33:59] town manager and chief police
will have a resolution
[1:34:06] uh i mean mr henry hannah has come in to
uh
[1:34:12] that's the um
session
[1:34:16] for the session
so
[1:34:20] see no further
items
[1:34:22] business on the agenda i'd like to call
for a motion to go into closed session
[1:34:26] for a real estate match
[1:34:47] [Music]
[1:34:58] can very cool