1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:02,760 Okay. 6:03 we'll call the economic development corporation regular meeting for tuesday, May 19th, 2 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:08,120 2026 to order. We'll start with roll call. Mike thompson. 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,920 present. Sesame morrison. Present. Joshua harrell. Present. Albert lott. Present. James miller. Present. 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:19,600 deshawyna walker not here. And then allen. Present. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,680 let me make sure I get that right. Thank you. Our invocation. Heavenly father, we thank you for the the responsibility and the privilege of serving Princeton community as a as we gather for this meeting, 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,000 grant us the wisdom to make thoughtful decisions to consider every perspective fairly and Humbly serve others in 7 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,000 our community. May our efforts encourage responsibility, Growth, strengthen our community, 8 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,680 and promote opportunities that benefit future generations. Guide us to lead with integrity and mutual respect of in all that we do. 9 00:01:00,990 --> 00:01:00,990 amen. Pledge of allegiance. 10 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:24,070 and we'll move to public appearance. Members of the public are allowed five minutes to Speak. 11 00:01:28,270 --> 00:01:28,270 the economic development corporation is unable to respond or to discuss any of the issues That are brought up during this section that are not on the agenda, 12 00:01:36,990 --> 00:01:36,990 other than to make statements of specific factual information in response to public Inquiry, 13 00:01:42,670 --> 00:01:42,670 or to recite existing policy in response to any inquiry. 14 00:01:47,750 --> 00:01:47,750 and we do not have anyone, so we'll move to the public report items. 15 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:52,630 next regular meeting is june 16th, 2026 at 6 p.m.. 16 00:01:58,370 --> 00:01:58,370 next regular pcdc meeting is june 17th, 2026 at 6 p.m.. 17 00:02:03,970 --> 00:02:03,970 next city council meeting is may 26th, 2026 and june 8th, 2026. 18 00:02:12,410 --> 00:02:12,410 staff report items. Our financial report and tax update will be presented by allison. 19 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:19,130 correct. Yes. Yes. I'm here. Chris is going to help me pull up the balance sheet detail For us. 20 00:02:27,210 --> 00:02:27,210 oh, there we go. Okay. So I had our kelly wilson our finance ceo help 21 00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:39,770 with some of the encumbrances and cash position. So we went through that just so that we would have those totals right now for fund 7. 22 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:45,290 so as you see, I have the assets in the liability and even the equity. 23 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:52,970 and this is similar to what you all see each month. However you scroll down just a tad bit. Chris. 24 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:56,800 I do have highlighted or kelly does the cash position. 25 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:00,880 so the cash in the bank and then you see the 1.0 $5,000,000. 26 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:06,880 99 vision that's over a lifetime. So it will be paid off in 2029 pay to us. 27 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:13,360 so it's not 1 million in the bank today. So I just wanted to make sure we're showing the Cash position and then our commitments over time. 28 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,080 so we have project 41 and project queen. So those are encumbered because those are Projects that we approved for cash grants. 29 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,040 so the total encumbered commitments are 1.3 million. 30 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,200 so our total net equity 10 million. It's very strong. 31 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,720 we got a lot of cash. And I have a lot of ideas how to spend it. If you spent time with me you know that so I can help you with that problem. 32 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,240 but the total equity and current surplus is 12.5. 33 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:51,720 and so we did the 12.5 minus the ten to show the variance of 2.4. 34 00:03:58,140 --> 00:03:58,140 and if you have any questions. Basically I'm saying last year we did a deal for 2 large Big box. 35 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:07,580 so those are the encumbrances. And so those actually come out when those deals make. 36 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:14,980 but for now we still have to encumber the funds. We encumber the 500,000 and the 800,000. So there's a fence around it. 37 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:19,900 it's restricted. And I can move to the next detail unless you have questions on this one. 38 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:29,260 just one curiosity question. Are we at a point since it's been in the paper that we can Say what those projects actually are, 39 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:36,780 or should we keep them as a project like that? When we're discussing it in here, we have a public standpoint. 40 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:43,140 I would ask I'll ask the companies, but we've signed the agreements and those agreements Are public. 41 00:04:47,740 --> 00:04:50,900 it was it was in the paper. That's why I asked. Yeah. It's no secret. It's home depot and kroger and it's all over social media. 42 00:04:57,490 --> 00:04:57,490 yeah. But again, that is an open meetings. That is that's not privileged information Anymore. 43 00:05:03,490 --> 00:05:07,330 it was for a time. So it's just part of the princeton town center. Just a thought. Okay. Thanks. Okay. And then the next one. 44 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:12,370 chris. Okey dokey. So this is 45 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:24,210 similar to what you all see as well each time. So I just kept the similarity for fund 7 with the revenue and the expenses. 46 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:28,770 so this is the account summary. And this talks about some of the revenue that we get in The door. 47 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:34,290 the, the obvious one is a sales tax revenue. We also have a little interest revenue from a Land deal we did years ago. 48 00:05:41,730 --> 00:05:41,730 and then we just have interest revenue from our fund balance. 49 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:47,010 and then the sale of the land that was the princeton business park with the first medical Office building. 50 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:51,670 so that's that line detail. And then of course, The expenses and and all the fun things that you all see each month. 51 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:01,430 so I don't have too many things to show there, But I do have some more things with the sales tax report. 52 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:13,830 and I do have a new sale. I have a secondary sales tax report. So I have one that y'all are used to seeing. And then a new version for tonight. 53 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:20,870 so. Okay. Alrighty. The hdl companies miss wilson started subscribing to this a few months Ago. 54 00:06:29,230 --> 00:06:29,230 and so this is just a snapshot of sales tax. And if you see on the, The far left, it says fiscal year total 8.8 55 00:06:38,730 --> 00:06:38,730 million for the city that really tracks because the 2 boards get about 2 million each last Year, 56 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:45,230 a little over that. And this is the non-confidential piece that I can show. 57 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:50,780 the other pages I cannot show, but you can show ranges and you can show names, But you can't show names with the exact dollars and things of that nature. 58 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:00,620 so this is the public facing page of documents that we have basically to show trends. 59 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:11,300 and you can show the industry segment that were heavy on retail trade. And you know that when you drive 380 and you drive around town and then you have 16% for Other. 60 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:17,500 but we do have some manufacturing and construction and utilities, But then we have the other excel spreadsheet. 61 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:25,620 chris, if you'll show that I know y'all are used to seeing this. 62 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:34,660 jim showed this to you last month when we were 13% up. So at the end of march, we're 6% of an increase. 63 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:39,860 so we finished at 239,074. It's still up month over month of the 2 to prior fiscal years. 64 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,360 so the difference is 14,000. So it's still trending in the right direction. 65 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:02,880 thank you allison. Thank you. Also just note deshaun arrived at 608 and we'll move to the Board report items. 66 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,000 edc board of directors report about items of community interest in which no action will be Taken. 67 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:17,600 anybody has anything? Oh, I have an update. I don't have the details yet, But the the event that I brought to the board a few months ago, 68 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:27,520 the soul patrol event, they were able to secure a rest stop here in princeton. 69 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 they worked worked it out with the city. So if anybody wants to come and volunteer on that Day, it's on saturday, june 20th. I'll come, I'll send an email with all the details. 70 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:41,800 I don't have it with me right now, but it will be cool to have some members of the board Come and show a presence out there. 71 00:08:49,230 --> 00:08:51,790 okay. All right. Thank you. That's great news. Congratulations. We'll move to the consent agenda. 72 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:00,830 consent agenda items are listed are considered to be routine by the economic development Corporation and will be enacted by one motion. 73 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:07,350 there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a board member. So requests in Which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered as normal 74 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:15,510 sequence on the agenda. We have the financial statements and financial statement in the Minutes from our previous meeting, 75 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:25,950 and we'll just need a motion, a second to approve that. Mr. Chair I'd like to see if we could approve our financial statement, Have it brought back for may only 76 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:38,630 because it was not included in the agenda packet. And to make sure that as a board, we are doing our due diligence and actually reviewing it Ourselves. 77 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:49,900 sure. So I guess that's a motion. I'd like to make a motion to remove the pedc financial Statement 78 00:09:59,620 --> 00:09:59,620 from the consent agenda, and have it returned on the may 2026 agenda for approval. 79 00:10:10,660 --> 00:10:10,660 I have a point of clarity. I didn't see it attached to the last one, So I didn't attach it. 80 00:10:15,660 --> 00:10:19,620 do y'all usually have it in a link on it on here? Yes we do, so that we can review it before we actually approve it. 81 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:29,340 I thought so, but I couldn't find any past agendas. That's okay. I will do it. Go ahead. I'll second the motion. 82 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:40,740 motion. So the motion was to remove the pedc financial statement from the consent agenda. 83 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:49,680 have it returned for approval on the may 2026 agenda? 84 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:56,120 and my apologies. I'd like to approve the consent agenda with the removal of the pedc Financial statement. 85 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,160 I second. 86 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:24,160 and that passes with 5 in favor, 1 abstained. 87 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:31,120 so we'll move to the regular agenda. Very good. 88 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:41,990 you're looking puzzled at me. Yeah. 89 00:11:54,310 --> 00:11:54,310 james, your vote didn't take. It didn't take. 90 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:58,550 you have to redo it. So do it again. Okay. 91 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:08,470 it's approved. 6 to 1. Abstain. And we'll move to the regular agenda. 92 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:16,310 item number item 2026-001. Economic development corporation benchmark discussion. 93 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:22,550 discussion on benchmark analysis of economic development corporation's for municipalities North of 121. 94 00:12:31,630 --> 00:12:31,630 okay, so I put this as a title. It was a request from the board. 95 00:12:37,510 --> 00:12:41,290 and miss walker, do you want to discuss what you want to see? I know you sent this in april to the edc staff, But do you want to expand on more? 96 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:48,370 okay. Absolutely, mr. Chair. It's. I have quite a bit to say, But I feel like this is very 97 00:12:57,690 --> 00:12:57,690 important for the board to know and understand. 98 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:02,490 so I requested that this agenda item be added for discussion, Because it is one of those conversations that's easy to put off and hard to 99 00:13:12,410 --> 00:13:12,410 recover from if we wait too long. Economic development is not just a land transaction Exercise where we acquire sites, 100 00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:20,810 attract developers or businesses. Cut the ribbon and then it's done. 101 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:28,930 we need business attraction, retention and expansion. We also need redevelopment throughout the city and especially in our downtown area. 102 00:13:34,930 --> 00:13:34,930 we have or had the main street membership. But how are we putting that membership to good Use in the city? 103 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:41,920 we all saw what happened with market street. That development agreement was executed and It was supposed to be a done deal and finally a win for the city and our residents. 104 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:51,920 and even though it was no fault of theirs, until these groundbreakings occur, As a corporation, 105 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:58,240 we need to know that these things are not set in stone, And we need to have staff that is continuously planning and pursuing businesses and 106 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,360 opportunities every single day, as if we have nothing. 107 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:11,760 we must start moving to where we are placing our city in a space that makes us competitive For talent. 108 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:18,800 our edc and cdc are significantly understaffed when it comes to our projected growth Trajectory. 109 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:25,960 at this stage, we should have between 3 and 5 specialized employees working on behalf of The edc, 110 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:33,440 cdc, and city to get us where we need to be. Selena has a staff of 6 specialized Professionals an executive director, 111 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:43,740 a director of marketing and tourism, a director of community development and downtown Service, 112 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:49,180 a special projects manager, a business development associate, And a business intelligence analyst. 113 00:14:55,220 --> 00:14:55,220 just for their edc corporation. This is a great example of having a well resourced team to Achieve the goals set forth by the corporation and the 114 00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:04,980 city. The city of anna has both an economic and community development corporation, And they have 3 staff members a director and assistant 115 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:14,580 director and an economic development manager. 116 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:18,940 the city of richardson, which I would like to mention, Is fully landlocked, but they currently have a population of what princeton is projected 117 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:28,340 to be. That is between 100,000 and 120 000 residents. 118 00:15:34,930 --> 00:15:34,930 that is where we are headed. So knowing our projected numbers, We need to get ahead of this and start planning for it now because we are already behind. 119 00:15:45,610 --> 00:15:45,610 they created their edc department in 2022. 4 years ago, Because they had the insight to know that they needed to course correct by 120 00:15:55,490 --> 00:15:55,490 2024. In just 2 years, more than 4000 jobs were created or retained, And more than 30 relocations, 121 00:16:03,610 --> 00:16:03,610 expansions and property transactions totaling over $225 million in new capital investments Were generated. 122 00:16:13,570 --> 00:16:13,570 they did this through staff intensive activities like redevelopment reinvestment and Relationship management. 123 00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:22,330 and those are things that one person alone cannot handle, No matter how many years of experience you have. 124 00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:30,770 things will eventually fall through the cracks. 125 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:34,990 sales tax revenue generated by the cdc is one of the primary tools the city has to keep Property taxes low for residents. 126 00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:43,230 every business we fail to attract, retain, or expand is revenue that either doesn't Materialize or shifts on to homeowners. 127 00:16:53,830 --> 00:16:57,150 the question is not whether we can afford to grow our staff. The question is whether we can afford not to. 128 00:17:00,550 --> 00:17:00,550 I am requesting that this board consider directing our ceo to bring back a staffing and Organizational structure recommendation informed by what comparable and 129 00:17:10,510 --> 00:17:10,510 aspirational edc's in our region look like. We have so many examples out here. 130 00:17:17,790 --> 00:17:17,790 and so that we can make an informed decision as a board about how to invest in our own Capacity. 131 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:29,620 our ceo is, is excellent. You know, you can't deny that. But it is not our ceo's job to set strategic direction for this corporation that is ours. 132 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:36,860 that is our responsibility. Staff executes and as a corporation we provide direction. 133 00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:44,860 I would also like to continue this discussion moving forward and consider adding dedicated Positions in marketing and business attraction, 134 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:53,580 business retention and expansion, downtown community redevelopment, And possibly a data analytics or even a dedicated main street 135 00:18:03,460 --> 00:18:03,460 professional. If we partner with the cdc, as we've done so many times in the past, I believe that we can make this happen. 136 00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:22,460 I think that was an eloquent presentation and on time. 137 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:28,280 and I think this these are things that this board has been discussing ongoing for some Time now. 138 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:35,760 and I'm sure you're aware of this. I think the infrastructure that they, That we need to put in place in order to make princeton grow is going to be 139 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:45,560 paramount. And I think that part of this whole process was the first was the hiring of a Director to put us on track. 140 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:55,480 I, and I'm speaking from my limited perspective here. 141 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:00,720 I, I think that basically we are, we have a director he seems to be, From my perspective, 142 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,080 doing a decent job. We need to tell him those same things. 143 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,160 I direct him to look into those particular things that you just mentioned. 144 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,280 I know the main street manager is something that we've been talking about for a long time. 145 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:27,510 right? As princeton grows, I think we need to put in place the infrastructure that also Reflects 146 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:38,150 our population growth. I think we need to be I'm trying to find the right words here. 147 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:44,630 I think we need to be very we need to exercise serious, Our serious due diligence in trying to 148 00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:54,510 make sure that we spend taxpayers money in a very prudent manner, One that will speak 149 00:20:04,510 --> 00:20:04,510 to the things that you have put forth here. Miss walker and, You know do what is necessary to move the community forward. 150 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:14,430 I think, I think your observations in your presentation has merit, And I think it needs to be discussed. 151 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:24,110 it needs to be analyzed and looked at and where possible and feasible, Implemented. 152 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:34,260 it's my thoughts. So I totally 153 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:43,860 agree. Miss walker I think we, we, I think we have the, The mind, the mind power 154 00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:53,820 here. I think we also have the willpower to make those things fruition. 155 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:02,300 we understand the population growth. We understand, You know, our future projections, we understand what princeton is going. 156 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:10,220 so making everything you just said a friction is, Is I think it's a must. 157 00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:20,740 it's a need. It's not a, it should be a suggestion. It's not a want. You know, I think that's something that we need to move forward with and Start having serious discussions about that as well. 158 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,160 as a board, of course. It is my understanding that we're supposed to have some type of Strategic mapping meeting coming up. 159 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:40,080 yes. No, maybe. Yeah. With the council. Do we have a confirmed date? 160 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,240 you know, we had asked to do it ourselves initially to just get our center balance, But that was shot down by the mayor, 161 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:54,720 I believe. And we're supposed to wait till they have theirs and do it all together. 162 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:58,840 okay. Because I was going to say I wholeheartedly agree with everything that miss walker Said. 163 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:04,920 and I know that a lot of times we use these bigger cities to like, You know, in comparison I really do believe that as long as we continue to have people who 164 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,040 want what's best for princeton we have to make sure that that overrides the noise. Right. And so one thing that is kind of like shaky. 165 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:23,190 we're all here. We're all like minded. We all want to move princeton forward, But we can't even get a date settled for a strategic mapping meeting, 166 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:31,350 which is something that we could absolutely discuss, Which is all the ideas that miss walker is bringing forth. 167 00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:40,070 so I think for me is just like, I don't know who we need to talk to. I guess this meeting is recorded so people will see it, But hopefully we can get whoever needs to approve that meeting to happen to happen. 168 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:48,270 and then therefore, we can start putting into motion the things that miss walker and a lot Of us are thinking and bringing up. 169 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:56,710 but as a corporation, we don't have to wait. We can have our meeting and continue these Discussions 170 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:07,990 and implement things on behalf of the board. That is the purpose of us being designated as A corporation. 171 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:16,790 so if this is something that the board agrees on. 172 00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:21,570 then we need to move forward with it. We cannot take action on it tonight, But we can bring it back for action, 173 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:33,530 discussion and possible action at the next meeting. Okay. Sounds like a plan. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask because I would be Interested in knowing, 174 00:23:40,610 --> 00:23:40,610 you know what? We have the actual power to execute and do. 175 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:45,690 I in my mind, I would imagine that everything is subject to the approval by council, But I just want to, 176 00:23:52,570 --> 00:23:52,570 I guess, find out more information on that. Mr. 177 00:23:56,770 --> 00:23:56,770 chairman, could I just one more observation, Please, if I could. 178 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:01,250 and also, I think that will be important to understand how we work in concert with the Other board. 179 00:24:08,290 --> 00:24:08,290 you know, I mean, there are some things that I think are specifically designated for the Edc into the put in place. 180 00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:15,530 and you mentioned a litany of things okay, to to look at, And I would be interested in trying to understand which 181 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,320 ones are uniquely appropriate for this board and which would be uniquely appropriate for The cdc board, 182 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,440 because we don't want to step on each other's toes. And it seems to me that we have forged a good working relationship with both of the Boards, 183 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,400 and we all seem to be going toward the same working toward the same goal. 184 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,000 so I, you know, I don't want to, you know, you know, Fall into that trap, if you will, mr. 185 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:52,760 chairman. Oh, I'm sorry. So I understand that concern. 186 00:24:59,960 --> 00:24:59,960 edc and cdc are created to work cohesively together to bring in businesses. 187 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,440 one is business focused, which is us. And cdc is quality of life. 188 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:10,880 and on top of that there was an election held. 189 00:25:18,620 --> 00:25:18,620 not sure. I think it was like 96 or something, Maybe 2006, where the cdc, it was approved by the voters to allow the cdc 190 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:28,260 to take on cdc projects also. So not only can they do quality of life projects, But they can do whatever we can do. 191 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:40,940 so, you know, we're interchangeable in that manner. And so I think if we meet, you know, if it's approved, That we can meet together and strategically plan, 192 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:50,140 but these employees are multifaceted. They can work edc and cdc. 193 00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:57,180 I've been in these circles. I know my peers. And so it wouldn't be anything that would Hinder the work of the edc. 194 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:06,260 I mean, of the cdc to where it wouldn't get done and everything would be focused on us. 195 00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:10,580 it would be a cohesive. Just a just a 196 00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:20,450 couple of thoughts. I was thinking, I believe our bylaws said that the ceo has to bring These things forward. 197 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:27,210 so without him right now, as far as the manpower additions, So we could look at, I would like to if we were going to do it. 198 00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:36,570 I mean, it makes sense what you're saying, but I think we need to see what the other Cities are doing and then also benchmark it with population and tax revenue. 199 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:45,570 because if our tax revenue is not going up, then we we want to make sure we're making Fiscally responsible decisions when we add a headcount and adding them 200 00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:55,570 one at a time versus, you know, getting some of the things like you're talking about with Salina, 201 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:00,810 we're not going to compete with salina, but that's a different, Different animal. We're, we're looking at cities that are more like this city and where 202 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:11,890 we're located and what we're where we're going to be able to accommodate. Then also are we're at a point where we don't have a lot of commercial real estate left, So we have to take into all those things into account. 203 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:20,070 our downtown's not real big, so we start adding a staff person for a city block that That's the stuff we need to analyze and see which place is better 204 00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:30,030 for some of those people. And we need data. I think that's where I really where I was Going with that. 205 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:34,870 so. Why don't we wrap it up by having staff do an analysis of the population 206 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:44,870 and the revenue and all the like kind comparable could be north texas, It could be whatnot. 207 00:27:51,910 --> 00:27:51,910 and then we start to see, because if you ask me, Absolutely, I always want more staff because I want more hands on deck. 208 00:27:59,950 --> 00:27:59,950 I don't always get them, but I certainly always want them. So I think that'd be good Analysis to have of how we stack up. 209 00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:07,110 and then our projections for our population in the next 5 years, 5 to 10 years. 210 00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:12,620 and then what would be a plan? Make a plan. But it would start with the data. 211 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:18,660 we don't have a edc admin right this second, But we are working on getting one. 212 00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:23,980 and jim should be back in 3 weeks so y'all won't see me. 213 00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:31,500 but the work can get done. We'll find a way to do it. And I think this summer, if we can have a deliverable of the data, Then the board can deliberate on what you think. 214 00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:42,260 and then jim will be back and he can figure it out. 215 00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:46,460 sound like I'm passing the buck, don't I? Thank you. 216 00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:54,540 so we'll move on to the next one. Good everybody. Any other comments before we go? Okay. We'll move to 2026-002 tdc conference discuss Upcoming tdc or 217 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:04,500 texas economic development council conference registration and sponsorship opportunities. 218 00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:11,130 now I'll pass to you, chris, that tedc agenda if you'll pull that up. 219 00:29:15,490 --> 00:29:15,490 I just wanted to put this on the agenda because it's coming up fairly quickly in june and It's local, 220 00:29:20,170 --> 00:29:20,170 it's in dfw. And so and this is part of the emails that I sent out, And I think some of y'all went last year and in the past, 221 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:28,370 but if you can't make it, because I know it's weekday wednesday, Thursday, friday, and, but just consider going, 222 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:34,610 you don't have to go to all of them or the full day. But if you want to go to a half day We can help register you. 223 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:40,530 so I just wanted the agenda to be top of mind and to know the cdc mid-year conference is Important because there's a lot of just, 224 00:29:48,530 --> 00:29:51,330 there are good classes or good sessions. It's networking. You get to meet other people that are volunteering in your capacity and professionals in Your capacity. 225 00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:56,930 so it's, it's always a fruitful thing. And then they have their annual one in the fall. 226 00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:01,570 but this one's on the heels. And then they have the sales tax one in richardson in September. 227 00:30:07,550 --> 00:30:07,550 and if anyone is out of town on the 18th of september, They'll have a virtual one in december. 228 00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:15,550 but they usually try to get everyone in person. And they have some other in-person ones are just not in dfw for sales tax. 229 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:19,510 but this is a fruitful one. This is where it has a legislative session. 230 00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:24,110 it has everything from site selection to meeting consultants. 231 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:29,310 and then you'll be sold every kind of technology application you can imagine. 232 00:30:34,670 --> 00:30:37,190 I've bought some before. Some are great, some are not. So it's just really fun to see it. It's fun to go and it's fun to kind of gel as a group. 233 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:42,550 so just consider it. And you can email me individually if you want to go and we'll Register you one thought if I might last year, 234 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:53,790 jim and I and several cdc board members went to the tax course. And I think it's, we talked about, it's a, something we were going to teach in house, But if you haven't yet, 235 00:31:00,230 --> 00:31:03,190 at least try to make a plan to do the virtual one. So it's great to be there because there were a lot of different cities from close by that We got to meet a lot of people. 236 00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:08,420 so and obviously the edc picks up the registration. 237 00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:15,980 okay. And good point. They did. I think I sent it. They do have some sponsorship opportunities if y'all want that for june. 238 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:21,180 but if you don't have this on your agenda, not planning to go, Just consider it and let me know in the next week. 239 00:31:27,940 --> 00:31:27,940 it starts from 1500 all the way up to 3000, 4000 for sponsorship opportunities to get the City, 240 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:38,140 the brand out there at tdc, at the conference, Other cities. See the logo? It's just it's a good thing to do. 241 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:40,860 and we certainly have the fund balance. So I told you I'd help you spend money. 242 00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:51,300 so y'all let me know. Any thoughts on sponsorship. Anyone. This line item doesn't have action on it. 243 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:59,660 oh yeah, y'all can email me. I have the sponsorship teed up. But I don't I mean, we can it's it's in the operating budget, I can just purchase it like a office supply, 244 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120 I think. I think that would have to be done publicly. I don't think we can make a decision. Well, we bought the samaritan end table and some Other things, 245 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:16,880 you know, because it's just part of the operating budget, Like marketing. So I can because I think it's under a certain amount because we don't come 246 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080 for all of the purchasing for the operating budget, Right? So the operating budget for office supplies, Anything below a certain amount. 247 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:35,800 but if you it's up, up to y'all. And I was just curious when I asked, That is if anybody had an opinion on whether we should get involved in it, 248 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:43,760 and then we could go from there. If nobody really feels strongly, Then that's not an issue. 249 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:49,640 but y'all could do that because I think we I think we gave the money for the chamber last Time. 250 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:53,760 that wasn't on the agenda, I believe. Well, I was going to say as far as the sponsorship Is concerned, 251 00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,280 I mean, I understand it's like putting a name out there. Do we have to have a Representative present for all 3 sessions? 252 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:04,790 like, how does that work? Well, there was a breakfast sponsorship and it wouldn't hurt for Someone to show up at the breakfast. 253 00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:12,510 so if y'all don't want to do it, they'll have another conference in the year to go. 254 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:17,430 but keep it top of mind because tdc is an important part of just meeting. 255 00:33:24,110 --> 00:33:24,110 the reason why I'm asking is just because I feel like if we know the time commitment, You know what I'm saying? Then like I wouldn't mind being able to set up and being there, 256 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:31,710 being present, being at the table. As long as I know I don't have to go all 3 days, All day. 257 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:36,070 right. So the way that it works. I'm sorry. Yes, I'm sorry, but the way that it works is they'll have, 258 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:41,750 like, breakfast set up, right? There'll be bagels or, Or muffins and orange juice, and there'll be a big sign there 259 00:33:51,670 --> 00:33:51,670 that says sponsored by the princeton edc. I've never seen anyone man those tables. 260 00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:59,350 you know, they'll have staff if it if it's at the hotel, They'll come out and they'll refill as needed. 261 00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:05,850 but I wouldn't like, dedicate your day to going and being there because it's just a setup Where people, 262 00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:13,850 you know, take as you want, basically. Okay. Thank you so much for clarifying. 263 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:23,130 I mean, I think sponsorship is always a good thing. Anytime we get our name out there and See, 264 00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:29,050 let people see us especially with the, the big news of us being the fastest growing city And things like that. 265 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:35,330 that's a good idea. I would love to see, you know, Some board members there. 266 00:34:40,090 --> 00:34:40,090 of course you know, not all day people, you know, But, you know, one day here, one day there, 267 00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:47,450 you know, a few hours here, a few hours there. I would love to see it myself, But I think sponsorship is always a great thing, 268 00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:54,450 especially if we got it. I know we've done the gala with boys and girls club. 269 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,080 the samaritan was new this year. For for everyone. 270 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:04,880 and I know there's some others. I just can't think of them. But it's, It's fruitful and it's just something I'll keep in your inbox and keep top of 271 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:14,600 mind. So this is not a agenda that we need to vote on. 272 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:23,240 no, no, no. But I just wanted to bring it to your attention. 273 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:27,680 it's not an action item, but it's just normal things for eco devo office to buy a Breakfast sponsor or something, 274 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,400 something of that nature. So, but if y'all want to let me know if anyone wants to go, That would be step one. 275 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,120 do you have the agenda? Let me know. Your calendars look like, Even if it's just that thursday afternoon so we can make sure we get you registered and if 276 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:52,760 not, absolutely no pressure. There will be another one. 277 00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:56,860 there will be another one, specifically september 18th. 278 00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:06,740 I was going to say, I think summer is a little easier because once the school year starts, it's kind of like, so yeah, we'll email you. Good. 279 00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:11,620 I think it's great if we if we register 2 or 3 people, Then people can trade off. 280 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:15,900 you said maybe we have to register individually with your name so you'll have a name tag And just a thought. 281 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:23,580 okay. Okay. Any other thoughts? No. Okay, good. 282 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:30,260 we'll move to 2026-003. Pdc attorney request for proposal. 283 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:36,780 provide status update on pdc attorney request for proposal rfp. 284 00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:42,860 so our procurement officer, she put on may 14th a request for qualifications for the 2 Boards to have an attorney. 285 00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:52,660 and she also reached out to 19 law firms. So it's from may 14th to may 28th and we can Extend if needed, 286 00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:05,730 but it's on bed net and the statewide portal and all the normal places. So just y'all know, we'll at some point bring that forward. 287 00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:16,570 and we'll move to 2026-004 future agenda items, Consider consider approving a request for items to be placed on a future agenda and not 288 00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:25,650 for discussion of these requests. Does anybody have anything? 289 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:30,290 sorry. Can we have this come back in may? It's it's worded 290 00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:39,170 incorrectly. So we never had this. Well, we did previously, But we don't currently have this on our agenda. 291 00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:48,810 and so the reason that I asked for this and the way that I wanted it to come back was Discussion and possible 292 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:58,640 action to add a future agenda line item to our agenda. 293 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200 yes. Because correct. I cannot make that determination. But I did have a concern because I was told That, 294 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:19,640 you know, usually the way that it was working was someone would reach out and ask if we Had any items for the agenda. 295 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,200 but I never received an email like that. And so knowing that all items that we're Requesting to 296 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,040 be added to the agenda should be public business not through email, Text, facebook or anything like that. 297 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,920 all discussion should be had here on the dais. And if we do have future agenda items, they should be stated publicly. 298 00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:56,820 so if we could bring that back for discussion with the board or just approval or not Approval I would appreciate it. 299 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:06,660 well, I got your email. I copy and pasted the council language so we can just kind of lock It in that field and it can just keep coming back. 300 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:17,420 that's what you're saying, right? Just keep it coming back. We want the future agenda items. But no, I, I requested that, But the board never approved it. 301 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:25,140 do you know what I'm saying? So it was not a an a regular item on our agenda. 302 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:31,140 so I myself cannot say, hey, I want this to be a permanent item going forward. 303 00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:43,460 that has to be determined by the board as a whole. I cannot do that. So in this was not something that the board approved or, You know, said no to. 304 00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:52,570 so it has to come back for discussion and possible action. 305 00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:03,090 okay. I just put it as a regular agenda item. So are you wanting it to come back as a regular agenda item? 306 00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:05,930 is that what you're saying? Yes. For approval to it be for it to be added as an agenda Item. 307 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,930 I mean, we can just add it. I can just add the field. Kevin, do you have a problem? I don't. First of all, I don't think there's that level of formality is required. 308 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:20,130 secondly you know, the ceo or the staff can actually add items to the agenda. 309 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:29,010 it doesn't require board action to add each item, The agenda. So this is, this is fine. There's no really no formal vote that needs to be taken to add This unless, 310 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:35,810 unless the board, you know, the council or the board as a consensus just says, We want to have this, 311 00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:44,530 you know, just put it on there. We can do that. I mean, there's so in the future, if I say I want an agenda line item added where our ceo Gives us an update at every meeting on 312 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:57,670 all of the projects and things that we have done. I don't have to run that through the board. No, I think it would be probably a good idea to mention that to the board. 313 00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:03,990 if that's something the board as a whole wants to take up the time and have ceo prepare For, 314 00:41:08,990 --> 00:41:08,990 you know, for each meeting, because that's if as a and what you're talking about, There is a regular agenda item that would be a monthly report that you would be 315 00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:18,510 requesting, which would be obviously staff time, Board agenda time to do that as opposed to one off type of one off type of agenda items, 316 00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:27,670 which is what this is really designed to, to do primarily, At least in most instances where I've seen it. 317 00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:34,830 so, you know, if the board as a whole wants to go ahead as kind of as consensus without Any really formal action, 318 00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:41,190 say, direct the ceo to have a monthly report on, You know, on pending projects, then so be it. 319 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:50,940 you can do that. Okay. 320 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:04,780 typically bree would send us an email and we would make suggestions. There was no bree this time. So that's the reason why you didn't get the email was nothing Outside of that. 321 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:10,380 it was it was just that. So we, we typically let, I mean, anybody that wanted to add something to the agenda, 322 00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:19,500 we've always added it. It's not like we had a lot of things. So we've been pretty, pretty good with that. So I just, I just did not want to be the determining factor as to whether this was a line item 323 00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:29,860 on our agenda going forward. So since it's city council has it, It's fine. 324 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:35,700 I mean, obviously, but let's, let's just say you didn't say it right now. 325 00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:41,620 that doesn't mean between now and the next meeting, You couldn't add something, right? Right. So it doesn't necessarily have to be done right 326 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,920 now or at this line. So we could have this or not have this. You could still do it, right? Absolutely. Okay. 327 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:53,960 all right. So I want to make sure I understand. I'm saying it to get clarification. 328 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,080 good. All right. We'll move forward to I have a question. 329 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,320 concern question I don't know. Can we go back to agenda j 1, Please? I kind of want to kind of dive deeper in depth to that. 330 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:14,160 is there any way we can I guess put this on the agenda for, I guess maybe not tonight, 331 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:24,400 but sometimes in the near future for us to discuss and put in action to it to make this Move forward other than something that we're going to not saying, 332 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:33,880 shrug it off, we're not shrugging it off. But I mean, Instead of just saying, pushing to forward to, 333 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:39,320 you know, to the future, to this fall, whatever to actually start working on this as soon As possible. 334 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:50,190 I think you'll just need a staff member to do it is a problem. So you don't have an executive assistant. Right now we're working to get an interim. 335 00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:55,350 so when that person comes, they can do the analysis and whenever they complete it, It just needs to go on an agenda. 336 00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:02,390 so it shouldn't take too long for someone, but you need someone here. 337 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:08,950 so with this of course, I'm sure there's going to be some type of experience behind it and Help of course, 338 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:15,150 but with this person actually know what we are looking for, What type of data we're looking for specifically you know, 339 00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:22,670 without any type of direction that she's got from us or he or she has gotten from us. 340 00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:32,430 well, hopefully at the next meeting, that person will be seated. So if y'all want to put it there again with the same language and y'all can reiterate to The person exactly what you want the data to have while that person is going 341 00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:42,450 ahead and trying to compile things, then you can have a productive conversation of where He or she is now in the project and what you want to maybe add to it. 342 00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:56,210 but again, we are interviewing people to get an interim. So it's just this short time of when we have to post for june 18th, 19th, somewhere on there. 343 00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:06,530 so it's a timing thing, but it's not, it's not like it's a difficult thing. It's just a timing thing. Okay. And then you eventually just figure it out and take Action. 344 00:45:12,090 --> 00:45:12,090 okay. And vice chairman, just for clarification this situation that we're in right now is The reason why I 345 00:45:22,090 --> 00:45:22,090 requested this, because if we have one specialized employee and an executive assistant and Something happens where they're 346 00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:32,370 not available, we don't have anyone that can pick up and run with the ball. 347 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:40,240 so we need staff whether we like it or not. We need staff, Specialized staff that can continue whatever projects follow up, 348 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:49,640 phone calls. They can take meetings. We need staff. 349 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,640 yeah, I'm doing it right now and I'm pretty tired. I don't know what I was thinking. So I Told chief, 350 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,080 slap me next time. I think I can just pick up extra work. So we do we are actively working to free to fill bree's position. 351 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:11,880 okay. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that because I get it, You know, but I just wanted to make sure that it's 352 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:21,600 something that we're not just kind of just moving through the agenda saying, Okay, we went through it, you know, I kind of want to start pushing, 353 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:27,920 pushing this and putting this into motion. This might be a good time for me to tell y'all, 354 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:33,400 I won't be here at the june meeting. Not that you're on the edge of your seat waiting for My june attendance. 355 00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:39,820 but just so you know, I am moving on to another opportunity. 356 00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:47,140 but you know, you stole my number. You still reach out to me, But I just won't be at the june meeting. 357 00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:56,380 so I want to say I've gotten to know each y'all in different ways. And I've really enjoyed watching this this board come together and, And y'all work on projects and I've seen a lot of transition here. 358 00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:04,700 so it's been good to, to watch it and to watch the town grow in my short, Short time. 359 00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:11,260 so yeah, congrats. Congrats. Thank you. Congrats and good luck. 360 00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:17,180 thank you, mr. Chairman. Can I ask a quick question, Please, sir? 361 00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:24,980 and I'm asking this from a I'm trying to come a little bit lost here. 362 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:29,300 I'm trying to understand mr. Locke's question here. 363 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:34,940 okay. So we're talking about basically, and I'm trying to make this as simple as I Possibly can. 364 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:40,650 so excuse me if I stumble a minute. We were talking about doing is making an economic, I mean, 365 00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:49,250 making an analysis of princeton's princeton's growth and where we are. 366 00:47:55,850 --> 00:47:55,850 and we are located in north texas, and there are a lot of communities around us that are Comfortable to our size. 367 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:06,050 we want to look at those communities where they are, Look at their growth patterns, and we want to implement those successful 368 00:48:15,930 --> 00:48:15,930 growth patterns in those cities, in our community. 369 00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:20,730 we want to look at example would be if we have a police department that consists of 370 00:48:29,770 --> 00:48:29,770 75 police officers and the police officers. I'm assuming that there is a formula that is Used to make that 371 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,160 analysis based upon the population. I think the same thing would be applicable to the Population of princeton. 372 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:49,520 if princeton has a population of 50,000 people, How many economic development professionals should be in place to support that 373 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,920 population? Is that what we're talking about? Is that what we mean? Is that what we're trying to go? I'm asking. 374 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,280 yeah. Yeah. It's to rationalize like with any business, A headcount, you know, typically you do it based on revenue and geography, 375 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,280 different things like that. But yeah, it's what you're saying is get that criteria because We need, 376 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,920 you need to have the criteria and the benchmarks and the things to know. Do you add somebody at this point or, you know, Where are you going to be? 377 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,040 because you can't, you want to be ahead of the curve, But not too far ahead of the curve. We don't want a lot of people sitting around and we want to also be. 378 00:49:35,020 --> 00:49:38,700 we want to use technology as we look at this. Okay, it might not in all cases mean necessarily [inaudible]. 379 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:44,140 it might mean looking at ai and how we can incorporate ai into our implementation process. 380 00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:52,540 is that something that makes sense? Yeah. I think all those things have to be analyzed With when we put the data together and you know, 381 00:50:00,820 --> 00:50:00,820 look at what's the best option for the city. Yes, We, we want, we all want the same thing. 382 00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,660 it's just a matter of how do we get there the best way. Okay. All right. So mr. Lott is was that where you were? 383 00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:17,300 I'm I'm trying to. Was that what you were trying to go, Sir? I mean, exactly what I was trying to go, so. Okay. 384 00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:20,620 I think what, you know, ultimately I don't want this to just kind of just kind of fall by The wayside. 385 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:24,980 yeah, yeah. I mean I believe that we as a board can do more. 386 00:50:30,140 --> 00:50:30,140 but 1 needs to have, you know, we need people to be here. 387 00:50:35,650 --> 00:50:35,650 t2, there's a lot of data. There's a lot of human knowledge as well that's out there that Understands the growth and the growth patterns and the things 388 00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:45,650 that we would need as a board to make this city a better city, A to, to support the infrastructure that we are currently building as we go. 389 00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:56,210 and so mike's point, you know, the revenue portion of it, The tax, the tax sales and things like that, 390 00:51:00,930 --> 00:51:00,930 how can we make sure that, you know, we're not over budgeting or over overpaying or Whatever it may be? 391 00:51:06,810 --> 00:51:06,810 you know, so it's different things that I think that we need to start actually looking at And really start to dig into this about because I mean, 392 00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:16,130 right now, I'm not saying we, we're kind of sitting duck. I mean, We're making moves. You know, things are happening. But, 393 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:22,490 you know, I think we should be ahead of it, not behind it or right there with it. 394 00:51:26,890 --> 00:51:26,890 I think we should be ahead of it. Planning forward and then again, Utilizing, like you said, 395 00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:35,470 technology, ai data to make these things happen. So yes, absolutely. One monkey don't stop, no show. 396 00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:41,990 I think, you know, just just speaking from experience, I, I've run a lot of sales teams, you know, 397 00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:54,550 and, and like the biggest ones, $110 million. And, you know, the, the thing you want to do with a big company is you, You want to have the least manpower you need, 398 00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:02,230 you want to have enough, but you don't want to have too much because you're just, Just because our competitor has all those people doesn't mean that we need all those 399 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:09,750 people. Same thing with the police force. You know, You can't say, well, I need all these officers and we really don't. 400 00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:14,790 so sorry to bring you into it, but that's that's. 401 00:52:18,910 --> 00:52:18,910 mr. Police officer. I didn't mean no disrespect. I was just saying. 402 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:24,950 yeah. Mr. Miller, just one thing to add to that. So when it comes to headcount, And obviously I can speak for all of us can speak from personal experience. It's it's 403 00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:31,980 actually the goal is to have just a little bit less than what you need at all times. 404 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:36,300 and so everybody's working at a little bit higher percentage because the more mouths you Have to feed, 405 00:52:41,060 --> 00:52:41,060 the more food you have to produce. So it's very important whenever we do headcount in any Organization that you actually have less so that then you don't have cutbacks if you grow 406 00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:49,020 too much. And I'm probably going to break some news here that government tends to become Very inefficient. 407 00:52:55,180 --> 00:52:55,180 okay. I don't think anybody's ever heard of that. But it tends to become very inefficient When you have headcount because then you get caught in bureaucracy. 408 00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:02,260 it's clear when it when it looks at the edc, Like we're at like miss walker talked about earlier is it's extremely important that we 409 00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:09,500 are recruiting and maintaining businesses. And I'll give you a good example. This is just My opinion. 410 00:53:14,620 --> 00:53:17,580 I will guarantee you that we did a very good job recruiting home depot. We did a very good job recruiting. Who's at kroger. 411 00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:21,140 right. Which is excellent. But there's only one home depot, One kroger. But if you look at it, it was brought up the last time. If you look at the 412 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:27,440 edc, a lot of times we miss that second and third tier of people just because flat out It's a manpower issue. 413 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:34,720 and so I think you said it best yesterday is a lot of times when excuse me, Last month when we saw that you said a lot of times when somebody reaches out, 414 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,280 it's already too late. And that's the key. And I'm seeing it right. We're seeing in our business, you can look north, South, east, west, and you're seeing doors lock. The reason is, 415 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,600 is there's 2 reasons. Number 1, capital is obviously very tough right now. But the other part is experience. A lot of people have great ideas, But they don't know how to implement their businesses. We see it coming into our center 416 00:53:59,720 --> 00:53:59,720 all the time. So I am by far, I think I am by far one of the most conservative people when It comes to adding headcount. 417 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:07,600 but if we need it, because there is back to what we said, If there is a productivity issue, 418 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:13,400 excuse me, if there is a quantified milestones and benchmarks, Those people, by all means, 419 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,360 that's what we have to do, in my opinion. I thought I would just wrap it up. 420 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:23,360 you're probably like, please stop talking. So miss walker mentioned selena. 421 00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:28,710 so selena has a good sized staff and they use the edc fund, But they also use a hotel occupancy tax fund because they have hospitality and hotels. 422 00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:38,270 and so as we add that on here, that's a funding source where you can add a body. 423 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:43,670 and so that can be in your projections. If you know those years, You can roll that into, okay, 424 00:54:48,590 --> 00:54:51,350 we're starting to get, we call it a hot fund. So the hot fund can fund only certain things. 425 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:54,870 it's very restricted. But that is something outside the cdc, Edc and those positions go simultaneously. 426 00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:03,710 usually you're usually in the same suite. Food for thought for later and projections. 427 00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:13,350 did anybody have anything to add to the agenda that that's where we started with this. 428 00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:20,670 yeah. I'm sorry. No. You're good. Good. All right, All right. We'll move to executive session, executive executive session in accordance with chapter 551 of the texas government code, 429 00:55:27,010 --> 00:55:27,010 the economic development corporation may enter into closed, Closed session or executive session to discuss any of the following texas government code. 430 00:55:34,570 --> 00:55:34,570 551.071 consultation with city attorney. Texas government code section 551.072 discuss or Deliberate the 431 00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:44,370 purchase, exchange, lease or value of real property project bag project I and then texas Government code section 551 432 00:55:54,010 --> 00:55:54,010 project bread as well. And it's 6:59. We'll go to executive session. 433 00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:06,930 at 7:25 we've returned from executive session. There's no action to be pertaining to executive session this evening. 434 00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:11,090 so we'll move to item m adjournment. All those in favor of adjourning say aye. 435 00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:16,010 aye. Aye. We're adjourned. 7:25.