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To the practice like board meeting for September 14th, to get off, please join me for the pledge allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and the United States and the jury public, for which it stands, one nation, under that individual, with liberty and justice.

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A motion would be in order to approve the agenda.

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So, second,

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knee changes,

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all those in favor, knee-posed, motion passes unanimously and

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motion be in order to approve the August 24th, select board meeting minutes.

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So, second,

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all those in favor, knee-posed, motion passes unanimously, is anyone online that

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I'd like to speak under public comment.

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Right, hearing none.

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We'll move on, or to somebody else have anything.

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Just to again, fall for us full September 26th from 11-2-3.

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So, worked that down on the calendar?

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And I did get a, I got a few people actually thanking us

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for the last concert we had that they had at the time.

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I think that was excellent.

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So, and I also got a thank you card from them, thanking us

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have a cup. Oh, that's nice, I know. It's changed. All right, every hand opportunity to sign those.

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So there is the final job for the winner's snow and ice clearing operations in your packet.

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So, the updates that we talked about at the last meeting, I mean, hopefully I didn't miss anything.

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Albert.

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Did I miss anything?

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Oh, you're looking for a motion?

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No, no, no.

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Are there any changes, concerns?

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I think I can.

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I'll say that, you know, I like it.

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You know, it's been short and it's concise.

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I think it's good.

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So what I'll just do is put the date, if you do approve it, yeah, I'll just put the dates in, and then give, have it.

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I'll seal the assignment. It's the top book, that's the assignment.

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Thank you guys. So if there's now issues, a mushy would be in order.

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See that we adopt the revised and as presented,

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winter snow and ice clearing operation policy.

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All right.

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All right.

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All those in favor?

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All right.

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Any opposed?

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Motion passes unanimously.

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In your pocket, just for information,

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are the planning commission updates to zoning regulations through view and look at if you want a copy of the zoning regulations with some of these changes in that you can ask duty to print it out for you and we'll put it on the next meeting to discuss and go over

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Bear? Bear? Bear? Yes. I need to include the whole thing because it's like what 70

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something pays off. Yeah, I like. So if you want this and I will want it, I would

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like it not in the packet because in three days we can't review a set of items.

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How about tonight? How many people would like it? I don't even list. Okay. And so we'll

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of these changes already in it, all right?

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Yeah, it has, it's a red line version.

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Yeah, there's one that's not red line.

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So I'll give you the red line one.

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Is that what you want?

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Yeah, look at this.

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No, look.

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Yeah, there.

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What is that they gave us on this sheet?

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Those were older.

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Yeah, and then they revised it.

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And then they revised it again last meeting last week.

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Oh, so there might be some that are different.

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That's why it's good to have both things to look at, but I'm guessing you want the red line from

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Yeah, and if we could at the next meeting kind of come with prepared to say yeah, you're an A2S so that when they're next

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Sure, I agree for it to that

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All right, so GD on me cut up and then I'm sure to be ready this week for it

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All fine time for a coffee

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okay. Um, informational dump days going to be on October 3rd from 9 to 1. We had really talked

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about it. I think that's probably coming into people we're calling about it. And it's weird

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because when I, I didn't know, but I looked in the budget and it looks like we'll be okay for one

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more at least. Okay. Now, um, maybe comes spring and we can't afford it, but for now we'll

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it and when I checked with them with the solid waste they had a down for September 26th and I

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don't know where they got that date that was for the house of this stuff yeah so and I said

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though we don't we normally do it the first week in October so yeah I wanted to confirm with them

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first so then they changed it to October 3rd so now I can order the roll-off so how's your

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waste still be there yes and I was wondering about moving it because I thought it'd be better

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earlier. Instead of going late in the morning, so there are there from 11 to 1 I believe.

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Okay. And I was wondering if the guys could just do like 9 to because I think we've

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been doing it 10 to 2 and I forgot how many does that.

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It's a double date card in this case.

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And they didn't have any, you know, and I'm like 9 or 9.

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Yeah, so I think you will.

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Just because they get to that early.

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So do I do it 9 to 1?

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Yeah, I think that's probably homecoming the only way.

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So, alright.

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Probably earlier.

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So, nine to one.

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I would say.

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And then Houser's fleeces there went a lot of to one.

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That way they both close up kind of the same time.

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And then next meeting, can we get to this out earlier this time that we use every time

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or after what you can do.

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But yeah, because that's going to be the next and what it's the same every time it is

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But if we have that and if you had can we put on there the tickets 20 dollars

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What ever that is? Yeah, I'll print up the tickets and I'll print up the list because honestly

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I don't know if they handed out the list with people when they come get that ticket

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Yeah, but I mean just so we can post that to right so people know they have to come get it

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But I'm also going to color color them, the ticket. So the free one is one color up 20 is a different color

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So the guys don't have nobody has to go well. How do I know yeah, you can just get a free one

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Yeah, a couple of times it was a little confused.

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All right, so, all right. Okay.

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So, a question on the hazma?

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Yep. Everybody that comes down, lost in a way they are.

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They're circling, circling, going home, coming back.

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So, I don't know. There's a two hour window for that hazma.

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Yep. I'll have into one, yeah.

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One, and we're on nine to one.

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Yeah.

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Okay. So, I don't know if there's an easy resolve for that.

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I don't know. I mean, they basically tell you when they're coming.

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So, we used to do it. So, I used to do a selfie.

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They won't change for us.

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No, I know. I just didn't know the tone.

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We'll try to share that.

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So, yeah.

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I mean, we tell them that when they come get together.

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And it's usually on the little fire thing that we put out.

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That's as bad as that.

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So, as they come down, like at night to say,

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they're not hazardous waste as a show till 11.

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And don't let them leave it there.

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So the third because some of the stuff you have to pay to get rid of right because they were doing that for a while

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Some people don't at the dump leaving it's like now. It's not going to work. So pulling tickets for October 3rd

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I will not be here. Okay. Still just to

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I mean, I would gladly do it right here. I'll walk around the girl's sock again. I'm not sure what time the girl's sock again

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I want to go.

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It is.

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It is really warm.

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It is.

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Varsity girls?

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Yeah, because I think Varsity boys in our what?

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Three?

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I mean, we can do that next.

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I don't have the schedule right out in front of me, but, um, I mean, they play in the afternoon,

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little kids play in the morning, and then middle school.

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So, um,

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yeah.

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I can try to pull that up here, because I mean, why we're doing stuff.

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All right, so we'll fill that up.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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Salt food.

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So we got two prices for salt, one from Cargill, and one from Appalachy.

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Cargill came in at 106.50 per ton.

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And Appalachy came in at 110.25 a ton.

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Normally we've gone without Appalachy just because the salt's good.

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Um, but the guy said they're willing to go with Carvelle to save.

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Oh, it was a time.

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Now, where was it Carvelle before when you're with that we ran out?

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Um, no, it was up a lot.

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Okay.

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And we got six hundred tons.

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Was that the amount that?

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Um, yeah.

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They usually call us on seven hundred, but we would just six hundred.

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Last year I think.

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Is that a problem with the equipment?

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Is that what?

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Well, what?

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But we'll do the salt.

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We were having, it's not as good as salt.

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that's what's different with the salt.

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Yeah, well actually, salt is dry.

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They keep it indoors.

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So it's dry.

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It never gets damp or moist.

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So it just spreads easier.

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And so is the other a problem with the equipment?

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No, the other one's okay.

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It's okay too, but it's just they prefer them.

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OK.

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Yeah, I think that unfortunately, I mean,

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$4.00 is a great deal and we're going to be paying for other things, oil is going to

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kill us, diesel is going to kill us this year.

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Yeah, diesel is quite a six bucks per year.

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And the thing with the dry, you know, it makes you great easier, but I don't know if I add

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here's to the road as well as some of the other salt that's treated, that has a tendency

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to stay on road a little bit longer or so.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes we go into the liquid, but there's issues with that too, and it's always going to be certain temperatures depending on what you do, so the salt is no good if it's really, really cold out

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Okay, yeah, thank you

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So we're going to go with cargo for 600 ton

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Yeah.

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I like to do a need of motion in your gut.

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No, I'm good.

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Alrighty.

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Motion will be in order to move into the board of water commissioners at 6-12.

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That's it.

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All those favors.

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All right.

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You have that's a link on list.

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So I gave you the list that we were working on before

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and that everybody that was the link would got the peak slips, three of them got letters because

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they were new on the list. So this right here shows EMA who has paid yep and there's still

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those two there that I didn't get updates today whether or not they came in and paid but if not

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they're on our list too, they could be shut out. So are these amounts monthly amounts?

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know what they just came in once they got the people know do they have agreements to pay

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those they all have agreements and is this them agreement amount or no unfortunately some of them

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just came in when they got the nose and paid and they took it and I'm like it's not the agreement

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amount and it's frustrating it's like they choose what they want to put on that okay

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So, how did any of them pay less than the original amount?

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No.

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I don't think so.

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And then there's another list that I went through today, because we went through every settlement that we had or every agreement that we had.

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And pretty much most of the states, some are staying current, some haven't paid since April.

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So I just spoke to the guys today, so they're on the notice list.

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And they'll be added with these, too.

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Okay.

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And then, you gave us that supplement with six pages of listing.

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And then the original are some on that six page document on payment plans and they're not on.

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Yes, yes.

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There are payment plans.

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These are the ones I just kind of wanted to go over.

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I tried to do it without curing.

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And just what was past do about so you could see all of the people.

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And

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the one on the print out was the one, two, three, four, five, six, the one and that property going up for a toxin?

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Yes, that's supposed to be going up for a toxin.

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So we have to now prepare one more step.

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The ceiling and I both have to prepare agreements for them to offer them an agreement before we can tax it up.

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Taxing for property property aims and utilities.

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What do you mean an agreement to start paying?

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It's part of the new law.

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And do you get to set what the payment amount is?

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We can, what would do is like I'll do my treatment and say what I'd like them to pay, and then that's what we'd offer up.

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Once we do it, the two agreements will go back to the lawyer.

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Just for this one or for anybody, for talks to anybody. That's the legislature passed that, where you have that people.

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And you can't even tell who you are, you want to think of.

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Oh, it's wonderful. And you can't include the most current doing what, like you can't include this year with the doing that.

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That can't be wrong. You can't call that.

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I mean, these people haven't paid in.

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I know. And they've often offered agreements before.

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So, the deal is always been no when we've done a green mess that you're supposed to be paying off in a year while you're incurred, right?

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So, are we, and that's what we say to other people, right?

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We say to everybody.

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So, is that what we're saying to them when you make up?

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I mean, I don't see why not.

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I mean, I think the end result would be if they can't, then they can't.

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Right, I mean, but you would have to offer them that opportunity and how long do they have to respond?

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I do not know.

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That's, I have to ask you.

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Okay.

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It's just so cumbersome now and so ridiculous.

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It really is.

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Just another step where it creates hardship on municipalities or

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Or, um, is that?

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Liant, you know, owner, so if you see a legislature, be sure and thank them.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Howard?

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Just to follow up with the question you asked, Lisa, on page five.

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Yeah, I think one down was that also on that list that we had a preview list of

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hospital tax sales.

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It's the same owners, but on a list.

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Oh, thank you.

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Okay, yeah.

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That one is also on.

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Exactly.

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get the 8th one dollar on page five.

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Say property owner.

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Yeah, I think if we could just know for the next meeting,

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I guess I'd be interested to know what the time frame is.

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I've noticed that the state has some issues.

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They like to write a lot of things, and then they fail to put in a time frame.

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So if it's not in the legislature, then I'm curious who's setting and what that enforcement

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piece is.

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And are we doing that? We're on page 3, the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for 1 down, also for

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carries, back

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cell documents as well, that one was supposed to have additional letters

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sent out and I don't believe that was done.

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And then there was one more on that tentative list.

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It was again on page five, one, two, three, four, fifth, one done.

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Yep.

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If that part of that part had to open up in a state in order to do this, and was that us who had to do that?

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I think it's the lawyer that has to do that.

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And our came to me, send a letter to them.

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We sent, well, I don't know if she sent a letter to the mortgage holder.

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Because she's passed.

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No, I understand that, but...

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They wouldn't talk to the city or do anything with herself.

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So, okay.

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Yes, it would just be nice to be back to some level of resolution with.

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Yeah.

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We want to go to that bank.

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A bank?

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A bank?

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I was just...

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I went back.

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Took it off in the auction, you mean?

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So I thought there was one left... was a had a bank name on it.

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biomarker.

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Poetry.

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P&C.

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Star Street?

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Yes.

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The bank.

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That's we cannot... they... they were the green place.?

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It's

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one right now. An inventory

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for the lower, right now. it's

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the whole... the whole...the

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whole... the green place. The one on V4

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Yeah.

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and the top. Yeah. They...

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They...

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And they took that over in an auction when it was auctioned off, they took it over.

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And what I don't remember, this one is on page 3,

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the eighth one.

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What is that?

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That's who holds the mortgage?

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Oh, I believe so.

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I think those are the people.

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I think it's at the one that they just abandoned the property.

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I have no idea.

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I don't even know what's property.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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So, that administration, that branch of the government, maybe it was a venerance as well.

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And the one which the bank, I have been in touch with the realtor who's trying to sell it,

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I've been in touch with the bank telling they have we have a lean on the property

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because of the delinquent.

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I told him that at the auction they didn't seem to care.

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And I said, you haven't paid it.

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So, the realtor, I got after her to get somebody to mow the lawn down there.

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she actually did, and then she said she would reach out to them about

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if he'd be doing what utilities as well, but we still haven't got anything.

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And then on page 4, the third one down, or the fourth one down, well, I guess the third

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and fourth one, both those properties are for sale.

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They haven't sold?

331
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Okay.

332
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I think it's really important downstairs, so we don't get into a situation, because I thought

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The fourth one down, I didn't think there was a sign there anymore.

334
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I don't know, maybe it did, I don't know, I haven't seen it.

335
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They took it down because they changed realtors.

336
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Oh, okay.

337
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Yeah.

338
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Now there's a new sign that's been there, if I think, you know, maybe a couple of weeks.

339
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Okay, yeah.

340
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Oh, okay.

341
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All right, because last time I was at the school, I noticed, I also wanted, okay.

342
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I just wanted to make sure, I don't want to get into a situation where we let property

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transfer in, well, that shouldn't happen at all, that should never happen, because

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any lawyer is going to know it, closing that that needs to be picked off as part of the

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closing cost. I don't know how some of them miss it,

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but.

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It is, but those four that we were just talking about.

348
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Yeah, they equate the 25% of that.

349
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Yeah. And the problem is that you're going into, I mean, did we find out if you can't shut off after October 15? Now, I think that's just, I think that's been the town's rule as they do because other towns do it.

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So, can we find that out for certain so that we don't have to live in that? I mean, I think people do think that, so then they think there's this kind of just,

351
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I don't know how they stop paying.

352
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Right.

353
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Right.

354
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So I think it's important if you can still do that.

355
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Of course it's harder once.

356
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Of course it is.

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For our guys.

358
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Yeah.

359
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Yeah.

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I know did get and find it and all that.

361
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Okay.

362
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If that is for sure and it must be because large towns you wouldn't.

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Then I think we need to be yet rid of that conversation that October 15th, the April 15th, right, you know.

364
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We need to absolve ourselves of that language.

365
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All right.

366
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Any other questions?

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It's like if you send out a pink note or see that maybe we just need to...

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So that's what I see. I've been doing that because it makes it easier on all of us because

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it's more alarming and people are like, oh, then they come in. Where's our letter? They just,

370
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you know, they don't show up. They come in. We go back to them.

371
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So if you send a pink note as, so you sent it first to September, they have to the end of September.

372
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I mean, it's no, no, no, no. A pink note means usually that they've had the agreement. They broke it.

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They've been doing it for a while. They keep this repetitive behavior. So we do the pink note as

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And I basically say it's, you get to notice once they've come in by Monday, and now it was

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shut up.

376
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Okay, that's what I was questioning.

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It's only that time frame was 30 days only when it's a new, a new, a new, two-in-one

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person.

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So, so we had some of those because some of my sent letters to the deadline is the

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18th of September.

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Just, just out of here, for the next one we get third part of, we can just know how many

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agreements are,

383
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I was, yeah, because I know you have people come in and then they make

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a payment and start, they think they start again, but current means if I have to pay $240 every

385
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month by the 15th, then I have to pay $240. That doesn't mean it's September, I don't pay anything

386
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in October, I pay for A, yeah. And it was a, because the list I have, I would say I will take

387
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People say, I have no idea about my current, except it's still September, so I can't until the end of September because they have them.

388
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Yeah, you know, they could make a payment before the end of this month.

389
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And so I've caught up really, there's a few that caught up.

390
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Yeah.

391
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Three.

392
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But I guess my next question would be, how many agreements do you have to offer them before or like?

393
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:54,220
And if you send them a letter and you say do an agreement or come in and pay it full and they don't do either, you can go shut the water off without further notice.

394
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If they have an agreement or they come in and they make an agreement and then they break that agreement, you can go and shut their water off.

395
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And I think, I mean, it sucks, but I really think that we're going to have to start taking

396
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maybe be more on the enforcer piece of it.

397
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I know, I know.

398
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And I know it's, I understand that, but it's also, I mean, I said this before, what if we all

399
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played the game?

400
00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:29,440
Oh, I know.

401
00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:30,000
I know.

402
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:38,020
And so then you have budgeted for whatever in that department and you're constantly running

403
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:44,860
a deficit or because people are paying when they feel like paying, you know, they need

404
00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:50,860
to treat it, I guess, a little bit more like fuel oil perhaps, right, because I'm pretty sure

405
00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:55,240
if you're not paying this year, you're not getting it again.

406
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:02,660
You know, I mean, I feel bad for people now because of the state that this country is in and it's not our fault and nothing's being done about it

407
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:06,820
So don't even get me going there because that just I raised me that we can't afford to live

408
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:11,920
Who are you on a budget before when the economy was decent?

409
00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:20,900
Are you very more like I feel sorry for some people who live by themselves and are all the way in relying on their Social Security and they can't afford

410
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,720
fuel and food and all the you know

411
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:31,360
It's frustrating and it's like nothing's being done at the top and it's it's just it. It is so I'm doing

412
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:40,740
I ask yeah, it totally is it is a big and I'm not saying it doesn't justify them for doing what they do in our town

413
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But it just makes it

414
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Makes it hard not to have a heart you know what I mean like some of this is I mean if you oh

415
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:56,000
Oh, I know like thousands and you have dollars to it for you, you have chosen.

416
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,760
Right.

417
00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:57,520
Oh, I know.

418
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,860
You know, I get it.

419
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,120
And the few I'm talking about are the ones who struggle, not the ones who go

420
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:04,600
on vacation and just don't pay the money.

421
00:28:04,620 --> 00:28:04,900
Right.

422
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:13,120
And the rest of us, the rest of the residents are making a decision about, this is an obligation

423
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exact.

424
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,580
So I'm just, you're providing, you know, if you weren't paying for your electricity,

425
00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:19,360
they're going to be turning off.

426
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:28,340
Right. So I think that it is kind of obnoxious that you take advantage of the town and then

427
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:35,380
people want to come to town meeting and stand up and have that about this. Right. You know,

428
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:43,360
I know. I know. I'll get back together like the whole breakout. So I just think I think

429
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,100
going forward. If they've been offered a plan, they break our agreement and they break it.

430
00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:55,060
Then I don't see what we have to spend the time and effort in issuing them a new agreement.

431
00:28:55,340 --> 00:29:01,260
I think then the pink slips come out and it's easier to send and track the pink slips anyway.

432
00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:08,520
And that's the way it is. I mean, okay. If you're not paying G&P, they're calling in telling you,

433
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:15,260
You know, on Monday, we're going to turn you on right on, so yeah, we don't have to come on, sorry.

434
00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:20,580
No, no, it's a lot easier for you to have hundreds of people work with you.

435
00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:22,140
Yeah, well, and that's kind of that luxury.

436
00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:28,340
No, and that's the other piece that it is hard because that means something else is an happening in town

437
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,120
because you're focusing on it.

438
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,580
I know.

439
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:33,160
Yeah, right, it is.

440
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,420
It's time consuming.

441
00:29:34,420 --> 00:29:37,160
But I do think there has to be a little more bite.

442
00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:42,500
I think in the enforcement piece for the numbers

443
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:53,260
to start to go down and that means I don't think all of us

444
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:58,260
are making decisions and realizing the sacrifices we have to make.

445
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880
I mean, if I didn't have to pay this, I could do other things too.

446
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,980
I exactly. It's not an option itself.

447
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,080
All right, anything else in water?

448
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,380
I must be an order to move into the board seal of the bush rose.

449
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:21,980
One move, second?

450
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Six, thirty.

451
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,800
All those in favor?

452
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Aye.

453
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:36,670
and you post most classes you mean I'm sleepy so the delinquitless is the same yeah

454
00:30:36,670 --> 00:30:46,920
to re-hash that and then you have the sewage and sewage the disposable

455
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:55,980
system rules and regulation with edits so any comments about that so last time

456
00:30:55,980 --> 00:31:05,600
We had this, and I didn't, I wasn't asked to prepare the whole thing and go through what we talked about and the changes I had seen immediately.

457
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,160
And that's what I did with the red line. So that's what I'm looking at now.

458
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,740
And then like the next meeting, I would say, we could take it the document and see if there's additional things.

459
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,780
But like a lot of this, I went on, you know, part of it when I talked to you about the pipes and stuff like that.

460
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:32,980
part of it was, I went online just to kind of see what Vermont statues are. Vermont, but it's not the statue, but in general information which who knows what it's true or what anything else is.

461
00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:45,760
But usually in Vermont is responsible for the entire sewer system, lateral pipe from the house or structure to the connection of the public main, including any blockages, fleets or breaks and private property or under the street sidewalk leading to the tap.

462
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:54,380
This includes portions, even if they extend into a municipal right away, that is responsibility of the homeowner.

463
00:31:55,180 --> 00:32:01,120
So that's what I kind of implemented into this under this year.

464
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,020
Is there any...

465
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,890
Any average cost, any stats out there that would show any examples of...

466
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,580
I mean, just past projects that were done.

467
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:20,760
Well, I know bigger projects for talking, you know.

468
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,660
So let's seek the South Street project that just happened.

469
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,080
Right.

470
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Did the property owner pay for all of that?

471
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,620
Oh, no.

472
00:32:30,820 --> 00:32:31,400
We did.

473
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:32,020
Okay.

474
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,540
And what did that cost?

475
00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:35,040
$93,000.

476
00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:36,240
How much?

477
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:37,820
$93,000.

478
00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:40,120
And that would be the homeowners responsibility?

479
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:41,760
No, it's not.

480
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,760
It's not talking.

481
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:43,480
It's different.

482
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,020
Totally different circumstances.

483
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,060
our town put the main through the building.

484
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,940
No, I'm talking about

485
00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:52,560
such a structure.

486
00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:53,820
I thought he said, oh, I'm sorry.

487
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:56,240
Oh, I was like, hey, you're being welcome.

488
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,600
Oh, wait, I'm going to catch up.

489
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,300
Catch up.

490
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,580
What the world is.

491
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,360
It's like, yes.

492
00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:06,020
It's so calmly.

493
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,740
It's like, okay.

494
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Okay.

495
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,440
That's how this project comes.

496
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,080
It's like, okay, so now I'm really against it.

497
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:19,940
So, oh, I do not know, I haven't got the bill yet.

498
00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:26,420
I was fortunate, well, we were all fortunate, that it was a much, much smaller.

499
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:29,140
He did everything in this property for it.

500
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,320
In the road, it was the sewage line that had roots and stuff, and somebody at one point in

501
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,420
time had tried to clear it out with rods, and the rods were actually left in the pipe.

502
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:43,680
So, we moved those, and luckily, because, like I said, the state was having his shelter

503
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,760
whoops to close down were three ridiculous hoops to jump through and it just ended up being

504
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,980
that small path that we had to go down and found the right and we had enough pipe to put

505
00:33:53,980 --> 00:34:00,980
it through to the other end. So that was much, much easier and much less complicated.

506
00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:02,200
It's a little cheaper.

507
00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:08,660
Yeah. So under this proposal, that hatch in South Street would have been his responsibility.

508
00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:17,940
Um, yeah. Even though it's technically the main that has the issue. No, because the main's on the other side of the room.

509
00:34:18,140 --> 00:34:21,040
Oh, it's his service line that goes to the main.

510
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:26,260
Well, somebody left the rods and probably are all rods.

511
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:27,380
Probably, yeah.

512
00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:38,520
But there is a case that I would like to see in that, you know, because the sort line is on one side of the street over there, maybe in the middle.

513
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,940
And what you just read, everybody is responsible for the digging.

514
00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:46,400
Everyone is responsible for the plumbing.

515
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:50,000
Everyone is responsible for the filling.

516
00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:52,120
You know, if they screw on a cross, they're property.

517
00:34:53,540 --> 00:35:04,560
And then, in this case, with the new proposal, the property owner would be paying for the painting.

518
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,300
if around the other side of the street, the property owner would not have to pay for any

519
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:12,240
pay, because they wouldn't have to disrupt any pay bank.

520
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:15,440
You mean, if the homeowner lived on the other side of the street, yes, okay.

521
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:21,080
You know, and when I'm thinking is, you know, do like the state says, everybody pays, you

522
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,880
know, for it, and then they fill it, and then because there's different sides of the street

523
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,820
that line is on, and different amounts of payment that they've interrupted, I think the

524
00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:38,320
at least pay for just the asphalt, just the painting. You know, every, the homeowner pays for

525
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:47,280
everything else, and then on either side you pay for everything except the paving of the street, and then

526
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,880
also, you know, because so many streets in town we do not have sidewalks, right? And then the streets

527
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,940
we do have sidewalks, they're on one side, and that's the other thing I think we might want to consider

528
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:18,660
Repairing is the sidewalk have have the homeowners regardless of where you are pay for the digging the all the plumbing and the installation the filling and the in the grass seeding and then the town just comes along and pays for the

529
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:23,240
Repaving and takes care of the sidewalk if the sidewalk is interrupted

530
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:30,900
Can I just ask one question, the last sentence says local excavation permits must be

531
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:39,760
secured by the property owner. Where are those listed in something here? Do what we create a

532
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:46,580
schedule? Or do we have is that in the permit schedule? Whenever work is done like that, it's kind of

533
00:36:46,580 --> 00:36:51,240
they all, if we have to get permits, so it would be either the responsibility of them to get a permit.

534
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,540
They have to get like dig save and then get a permit to do that work.

535
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,320
Usually the contractor doing the digging gets it?

536
00:36:58,540 --> 00:36:59,820
Okay, the contractor who's here.

537
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:04,260
So when you see local and so that's dig save, yeah.

538
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,180
What else?

539
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:12,180
Because when I see, when it says local, I'm thinking something here from the town office, that's what I think of.

540
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:15,140
I mean, that's just how I read it.

541
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,880
I mean, I'm no contractor.

542
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:26,700
I've just, like, someone reading it just, the roof, I have a problem and these are the rules I need to follow, I just, like,

543
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,980
Well, I think it means to me, I think I...

544
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:41,000
I turn it in as an area, exclamation curve. You know, like not. But there's not a specific permit from the town that you'd have to get.

545
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,140
Would you like to see that South Street project?

546
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,560
Would you have to get a permit to open the road?

547
00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:52,340
Yes, the person doing the digging, whoever we hired to do the digging.

548
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200
And would you have to provide a bond to open it?

549
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,540
We make them give us a deposit in case there's any issues and stuff.

550
00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:06,030
I can get you one of those forms that we've used in the past projects.

551
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:08,090
I can't see it.

552
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:09,370
I don't know.

553
00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:19,850
I'm going to go back to the same concern that I had before that the disparity is enormous, I think.

554
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,320
When I think, if I had a problem, what I would have to,

555
00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:32,450
the link that I would have to

556
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:50,130
because of how someone, in the 50s, decided to fuck up the system, which, oh, I know, and I was not the best, I guess, as a board, it's like, do you look at it from a board's perspective, or do you look at it from your own personal homeowner's instance?

557
00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:52,150
Well, I'm not even mine.

558
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,430
I'm just thinking like, that's one example.

559
00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:58,130
I'm thinking disparity of just like,

560
00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,690
the sewers on one side and I live on the other side.

561
00:39:02,290 --> 00:39:10,410
So now I have to pave a six foot by three foot strip

562
00:39:10,410 --> 00:39:18,710
of the road and I have to replace four feet of sidewalk

563
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:26,870
or something like that, where if I had a house on the other side of the road, right, those

564
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:30,310
costs would not, I would not have to remember those costs.

565
00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:40,410
So I mean not even, I'm not thinking, that's, that's mine as an example, it's not a completely

566
00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:52,450
unique example in like the extension because of where the mains are. I mean we look it up typical

567
00:39:52,450 --> 00:40:02,150
homeowners insurance does not cover this. No. So you'd be on your own. No, a person will be there.

568
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:07,410
Yeah. Well that's why I say the towns should pick up the paving part of it and the sidewalk

569
00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:15,790
really build. I agree with you there. At least you know, because it's not fair. It's not fair.

570
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:22,750
If you live on the side without the sewer break, where you have to go, and there's a lot more money.

571
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:27,970
Unless you live on the side where there's a watermelon, you want to make breaks, and you're good luck, because it's on your side or something.

572
00:40:28,690 --> 00:40:36,390
And here's the other issue. What happens though when you find out that you have a backup,

573
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:39,090
But it's not your fault

574
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:48,160
because I know that because because a tree roots you mean there's something like that

575
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,300
And so if that is in the mean

576
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:55,760
Then then who's picking that all up?

577
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,260
So then is it falling back and we're making a claim on

578
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,160
VLCT it depends on if if they have a tree on the property and their roots. I've seen where it's yet their responsibility. It's your tree

579
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,920
roots.

580
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,480
No, but like Lisa said, what if it plugs down the line and then you get back

581
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,120
small? Right. Oh, I know what that says in the past where I've been, if there's time

582
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,920
to where if it's someone's tree and the roots are going down and plugging it into the

583
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,540
road and it's their tree, it's their responsibility.

584
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:32,480
Well, if that's what was...

585
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,540
And there's service line. And that caused it. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, but the main cause

586
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:45,000
No, it's not the main. It's just service line. I'm not talking the main. If it's in the main, it's our responsibility. If it's in the service line, it's not.

587
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,600
I mean, it's that's it. I'm just throwing out what I've been asked to do and what.

588
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,740
No, no problem. That's good. Yeah, well problem.

589
00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:00,310
But it's a two-the-connection of the sewer main.

590
00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:09,150
including blockages, weeks, or breaks, and private property, or understreets, so I guess

591
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:22,020
I don't see where it becomes the town responsibility. The property owners responsible

592
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:27,700
for the entire pipe from the house or structure to the connection of the public sewer main.

593
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,280
So let's say beyond anything with sewer main as our responsibility.

594
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:40,860
okay so they get to the main and my pipe isn't the only one going in the main but there's

595
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:52,200
blockage and now we have you know three houses have it right well they can see it's from

596
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,840
your service line you're not kind of your service line is it with someone else's service line

597
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,280
so you have a service line here you have a service line here a service line here all going to

598
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:05,280
They can camera it to see if the blockages in your service line or someone else is service line.

599
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,460
What if it's in the main?

600
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:09,080
Well, then it's a responsibility.

601
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:12,160
Okay, so if you get backflow and stuff.

602
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,300
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

603
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,620
When you when it thought flows into ARB,

604
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:19,680
if you find the problems in the main, it's our problem.

605
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,840
If you find it's in your service line, then that's what they're saying.

606
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:23,780
It's the homeowners.

607
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,480
What happens when the pipe goes across property, you don't have control over.

608
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,700
the what the main of the service line. The service line.

609
00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:37,450
If it's a homeowner service line.

610
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:43,570
If your service line goes over town property, right? That's what this is saying. It's

611
00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:49,130
on town property. It's in the road. It's not to the main yet. That's what that says.

612
00:43:49,130 --> 00:44:00,260
So if this is my house, and this is the main, and this is all town property,

613
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:14,220
And my line goes over, because that doesn't speak to properties, speaks to service line, it's defining service line of what's the responsibility of the moment where it's your service line doesn't matter what property is growing across your service line.

614
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,580
Or how long it is? I mean, that's never been, I mean, I've never seen it.

615
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:19,460
Yeah, I've never seen it.

616
00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:19,720
Yeah, I've never seen it.

617
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:27,160
Your service line goes across property, you don't have control over, then how can you have control if there's roots in your sewer line?

618
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,840
Let's

619
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,380
see a service line goes of municipal property, right?

620
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:40,620
And there's a blockage, right?

621
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:42,020
And it's in your service line.

622
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,140
But it's on municipal property.

623
00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:44,720
It doesn't matter.

624
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,800
This speaks to service line regardless of who's property is on.

625
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:54,520
It's clearly says if it's under the road or everything,

626
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,660
as long as that's your service line is your responsibility.

627
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,960
It doesn't matter that they don't own that property.

628
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Party with the road is, it's still their service line, it hasn't reached the main yet.

629
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:10,820
But there are service lines all over town that not just under the road that are on municipal property.

630
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,260
So if the town doesn't maintain the property,

631
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,300
then how does that own us fall on the homeowner?

632
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,860
Oh, that's something you guys have to figure out. How detailed do you want it to be? If you don't, if you just want

633
00:45:25,860 --> 00:45:31,860
roots up someone's property that get into it, say you had a main that ran across, like

634
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:37,000
the main runs across the road up there trying to think of the worlds.

635
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,800
Well, let's just see, hypothetically, there's a house there here in the parking lot.

636
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,640
And the line runs through the park to get to the main.

637
00:45:48,640 --> 00:46:18,620
Okay, that service line is still the responsibility of the homeowner, even though it's that's the way that that's the way it's that's the way that's the way that's right, okay, that's my question right because you guys can do whatever you want in terms of redefining it or so I'm just saying what's what's common in Vermont in other towns, so if you want to rewrite it that it's only up to this point, then well, I'm just trying to think we know that we have a lot of clinky things.

638
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:27,720
Oh, yeah, that's right infrastructure. It really is. Well, so it's I've just trying to like make sense of, you know

639
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,520
It's the service line and I'm just saying I'm not I'm not taking it personally

640
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,540
My

641
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:40,200
I'm not good as someone else's house. I'm not good in third person

642
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:48,620
Yeah, but it's my responsibility, but I don't have control over the property where the service line runs

643
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Right, right now. I was just going to say maybe that's what the previous board went through because the current ordinance says you are responsible to the right of way

644
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Done from the right of the way to work connects to the main is the town's response about

645
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:15,410
Well that I said it. I mean make sense. It's just it's hard because it's someone's

646
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:19,250
service line does run across the road and

647
00:47:21,010 --> 00:47:24,850
That's the one thing I think they wanted to eliminate is why is a town always responsible

648
00:47:24,850 --> 00:47:29,130
because it's under the road where their service line is there and it's not our part, it's not our

649
00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:29,590
mean.

650
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:34,230
So that's, I think, how the question got raised and how to look at it.

651
00:47:34,850 --> 00:47:42,290
But you guys are all welcome to Richard of Part and think of how you can massage it to make it

652
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:44,370
benefit both of us.

653
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:50,390
You know, we were fortunate in a park street because I think a lot of that, even though the line came out and then went across and didn't go all the way across.

654
00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:54,730
So pretty much the cost was almost split between homeowner and the town.

655
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:57,330
So, you know, that's another option.

656
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:59,370
Do you split it if you pipe those?

657
00:47:59,430 --> 00:48:03,990
If the water is, if your service line goes across the road, you pay half of the homeowner and pay half.

658
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:06,620
I don't know.

659
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,900
That's, you know.

660
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:08,780
I don't know.

661
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,060
For me, I need to think about it a little bit more.

662
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:22,420
And I would like people to, when we talked about this initially, we had people on for something

663
00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:27,480
or something, remember what this she was, and I was praying, that's what it was, some

664
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,160
skaters praying.

665
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,960
And they had very definitive ideas about things.

666
00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:41,640
I think it would be how full of people were, I mean that we could put this on the website that

667
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:50,870
are looking to, I know it's a drag, but those are the people we're impacting, our neighbors,

668
00:48:51,430 --> 00:49:01,910
our families and friends. So I think they should have, I mean, a moment to, because it

669
00:49:01,910 --> 00:49:08,590
is an ordinance, right? It's not a policy. So it's an ordinance and has to be warned

670
00:49:08,590 --> 00:49:11,270
been right, so they'd have us saying that.

671
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:15,650
Yeah, but sometimes it's nice to have people have a say before you go through all the work

672
00:49:15,650 --> 00:49:16,170
and right.

673
00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:27,210
I'm not saying that, but I think it's also important if we do, if we come to the table with

674
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:33,470
your ideas and your draft and then they can, yeah, a hundred percent risk for you to say something.

675
00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:46,750
They are mine, my water line crosses my neighbor's driveway, my neighbor's on the highway and on to another property on this.

676
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:47,950
Do you want to be in a serving?

677
00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:48,950
Water.

678
00:49:52,860 --> 00:49:53,100
Yeah.

679
00:49:54,020 --> 00:49:54,760
We're talking to you.

680
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,960
Yeah, I know, but we'll deal with you.

681
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,300
We'll have to deal with you.

682
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,980
I think they could pull a line under the road.

683
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:06,340
That's what...

684
00:50:06,340 --> 00:50:15,160
Well, I mean, we have water in my lines going through houses here that, it's crazy the way they do it, it's fun.

685
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:28,400
But if it's just the question about us having to have to pay for that, you know, not having a homeowner, well, you know, when you look at the services that the town has, you know, the skating ring.

686
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,800
I don't know any times that you skate, you know, but we all pay for it.

687
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,080
How many times did you go swimming?

688
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:38,220
We all pay for it, you know, and we do have the property in Chinton, you know, for the

689
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:42,480
timber harvest that's supposed to be in water and so we're, yeah, well that could be, you

690
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,520
know, supplementing, you know, the pot to water and take care of, you know, the portion

691
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,580
on the right away and on the street.

692
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,580
Yeah.

693
00:50:52,060 --> 00:50:58,380
I just think, I would like to just think about it and you want anything else for the next

694
00:50:58,380 --> 00:51:00,100
We eat as far as information enters.

695
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:06,620
How about costs over a couple of years at the towns ahead to do this and what costs?

696
00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:10,140
And I don't mean like the $93,000 of them in there.

697
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,420
No, I'd say like from the Park Street, one maybe.

698
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,620
What should the goal be?

699
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,100
Well, on the South Street, I mean those are the...

700
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,560
These are the one up on the Park Street.

701
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:23,280
Yep.

702
00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:25,660
Okay, double line there.

703
00:51:25,660 --> 00:51:44,680
Just the examples of what it is and that if it's, it comes to a cost resolved, I don't know if it's just looking at us, but just to the town, whatever the cost was to do you have the counter right now is taking care of it.

704
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Just from the right away in the street, not on the private property.

705
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:57,880
But all of those were paved, yes, yeah, just the right way, like the Park Street one was kind of

706
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,840
Went on for a while, okay, and we've done a few up there. Yeah, yeah

707
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,200
You know, they might help sell it or not

708
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,160
That's fine. Yeah, yep. No, I think that's good information now and then I think you know

709
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Weed other talents, audiences, and things like that, that's kind of what I tried to do, you know?

710
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:24,840
When I'm looking for a good time on a Friday night.

711
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,960
And you're not going to say what Judy said, you know, when she started.

712
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:50,140
That's what I read in the Petsford and I was talking with one of the members of the West Droughton Board at the bus meeting and he's been there for over 30 years and I asked him about it because I read in their ordinance that they don't, but he said, yes, we take responsibility from the right away to the man.

713
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:56,120
yeah so it's a mixed bag out there yeah no i think and i think that's you know good to

714
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:03,120
know but j's point also it's good to know like if you were looking if that's you chose to do

715
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:10,740
that what kind of money are you looking at you know realistically if you're you know creating maybe

716
00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:17,580
uh i don't know a sewer replacement right find or something like that unless what

717
00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:22,560
That's the problem.

718
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,140
I mean, our pipes are, you know, it was the path of waste resistance for a lot of faces.

719
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,880
That's why things are so kind of won't be.

720
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,560
But I think what's wrong one can't be a that way too, but anyway.

721
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,740
So we will piece that on the next month's agenda.

722
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:46,560
Next month October?

723
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,340
I know.

724
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Yeah.

725
00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:48,960
I tell her.

726
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:52,440
Well, do you want it next month or do you want it?

727
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,860
I can do it by next week.

728
00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:54,080
Okay.

729
00:53:54,380 --> 00:53:54,700
Next week.

730
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,420
Next week.

731
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,640
I'm just trying to move the month alone.

732
00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:01,500
I try to put books in all day today that were October.

733
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:02,020
Sorry.

734
00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:05,720
I've moved right along to the happy moat.

735
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:10,400
And that was for 27 sets.

736
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:11,760
Say, there you go.

737
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,880
You're moving this path.

738
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,320
You're ahead.

739
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,140
All right.

740
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,800
Must be in order to leave.

741
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,940
Oh, what else do you have anything on the wastewater?

742
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,460
I'm nothing yet, no movement.

743
00:54:25,820 --> 00:54:28,800
I was going to probably talk about it in a minute before it's been done.

744
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,060
No, they haven't.

745
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,580
They were getting information from the dealer of green,

746
00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:37,520
but nobody's gone down there yet to set up anything.

747
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,980
They're still pushing for our hoping October start date.

748
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:43,980
I emailed that the other day and just said, you know,

749
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:49,080
to see a dollar for the storage.

750
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Yeah, yeah, nice to say about that.

751
00:54:51,740 --> 00:54:53,540
Yeah, yeah, that was the event.

752
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,780
So they could start cleaning everything out of it.

753
00:54:55,780 --> 00:54:57,860
I remember there was a couple of meetings.

754
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,620
But I did retail to them and just tell them that I hope

755
00:55:00,620 --> 00:55:03,100
they're a target because it makes it tougher for our guys

756
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:04,560
that they start working down there.

757
00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:07,020
Operating with the goods with the wood, it's ice, it's stuff,

758
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:07,500
so.

759
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,420
I did, well, tell you my managers for that.

760
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:18,780
The motion we're getting ordered to leave the board of sewer commissioners and re-enter three who are just like for me

761
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:22,620
So a whole second on his favor

762
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,740
We'll pass his meals. All right sheriff's report. They've been pretty busy. Yes

763
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,040
There are everywhere it seems like

764
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:35,860
They're at the cemetery today

765
00:55:35,860 --> 00:55:38,280
Yeah, they were what I was talking about.

766
00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:40,720
I saw them tucked in there.

767
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,480
But no, I really got it.

768
00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:44,580
You know, it suddenly speeds through town.

769
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,140
It's crazy.

770
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,600
You know, 58 through town is like,

771
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,520
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true.

772
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,860
That seems to be their forte,

773
00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:56,160
setting what speeders, if we call them

774
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,340
because you have

775
00:56:02,410 --> 00:56:04,510
disorderly people, right?

776
00:56:04,510 --> 00:56:06,890
They're not available during the day, right?

777
00:56:07,590 --> 00:56:10,870
And what does there want in the 80 miles?

778
00:56:10,910 --> 00:56:13,370
Yeah, three, yeah.

779
00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:16,130
So at least they're doing that.

780
00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:16,550
I guess.

781
00:56:19,350 --> 00:56:19,970
All right.

782
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:21,110
Me neither is required.

783
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:24,070
I just, you know, just the format.

784
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:24,670
Yeah.

785
00:56:24,930 --> 00:56:28,630
You know, deputy records.

786
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:31,290
You know, at one time he used to put the time stamp

787
00:56:31,290 --> 00:56:32,730
from front of his stuff.

788
00:56:33,010 --> 00:56:34,370
You know, but he doesn't anymore.

789
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:41,830
And you look at Deputy Frazier on the front page of the second sheet. You can see how the time stamps they are used to do that

790
00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:46,590
You know, I don't know if that's going to be the new normal where they don't put the time stamps and stuff of

791
00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:49,490
Yeah, I see what you mean

792
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:53,050
I got it down below. Aren't they behind the days got it right?

793
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:56,630
No, look at on the first page

794
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:58,570
Oh, what is

795
00:56:58,570 --> 00:57:00,170
You got it all?

796
00:57:00,690 --> 00:57:01,210
325

797
00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:03,950
No, starting an ending

798
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:06,230
But all the...

799
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:08,710
At 2045, those are times.

800
00:57:09,410 --> 00:57:13,290
Yeah, but all these other line items, they used to have a capacity.

801
00:57:13,290 --> 00:57:15,330
Oh, here, this is what it means.

802
00:57:15,630 --> 00:57:15,970
Like this.

803
00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:18,450
Like this.

804
00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:19,870
Yeah, every one of those items got.

805
00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:21,030
Like this.

806
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:22,990
See the difference.

807
00:57:23,470 --> 00:57:23,670
Yeah.

808
00:57:24,450 --> 00:57:26,410
You know, I didn't know if that was going to be their new normal.

809
00:57:26,610 --> 00:57:27,730
Time stamp is nice.

810
00:57:27,830 --> 00:57:30,290
And you can see how long they spent on each area.

811
00:57:30,670 --> 00:57:30,870
I thought.

812
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:32,570
When it's just a starting ending.

813
00:57:32,570 --> 00:57:37,930
right you know you really don't know but I mean you've got you know the start and

814
00:57:37,930 --> 00:57:42,310
date and types of all yes yeah yeah you just don't know how many minutes they

815
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:51,360
spend yeah yeah but I hope that's not a new normal where they don't right

816
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,500
these old types it seems it's just to be him though yes yes

817
00:57:57,020 --> 00:58:01,360
okay all right he's good when I email him too he responds like right

818
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:02,500
Yeah.

819
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:03,920
Okay.

820
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,620
We're going to make what's your cost statement.

821
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:10,680
We're getting time off.

822
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,040
I don't know.

823
00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:14,900
I had a job a year ago where I had to book time for every single thing.

824
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,020
And after what I was like, you know what?

825
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:17,100
This isn't saying enough.

826
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:17,980
This is the same thing.

827
00:58:17,980 --> 00:58:19,420
It's like, it's up noxious.

828
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:20,820
It's like...

829
00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:21,540
It's the same thing.

830
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:22,160
It's the same thing.

831
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,020
It's the same thing.

832
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,100
That and where they are and what they're doing.

833
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:26,840
You know what's up?

834
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:29,600
It's just not extra bottom.

835
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:40,520
What do you think would just come right off the report that you just upload your daily whatever long, right?

836
00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:42,120
I think I don't know.

837
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:44,720
I'm going to do any co-fashing.

838
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:49,380
Yeah, they're actually going to, they're going to do substrate that happens.

839
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,460
They're going to fill it in.

840
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,380
They want to settle first.

841
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:53,580
They're going to do that.

842
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,860
But they are.

843
00:58:55,860 --> 00:59:00,860
It's so quick and it's got all up on one, one, three, three.

844
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,660
Well, like someone I can't do, co-patch on because they're not deep enough.

845
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,600
The two shallow.

846
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,380
I mean they're bad, they're rough and they're horrible and they're, but it's a lot.

847
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,160
And co-patch is just going to come right off of it, so.

848
00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:16,960
All right.

849
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,340
One of these started to be the final.

850
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,120
Yeah.

851
00:59:20,620 --> 00:59:22,800
Should be starting this month.

852
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:24,860
The end of the month?

853
00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:27,780
That's what the target date was.

854
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,200
Am I doing my recording?

855
00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:36,160
All right.

856
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,580
Okay, so I got with three of us to reply.

857
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,020
So that was good that it was much less.

858
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,160
We thought it would be.

859
00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:45,940
Florence and Chitton and Timber Harbor subdates.

860
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:47,580
I talked with the Forster.

861
00:59:47,780 --> 00:59:49,820
He came met with me last week.

862
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,620
They're pretty much done wrapping up on Florence.

863
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,200
So we should be getting two more checks.

864
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,180
I believe from them.

865
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:59,980
Um, I had last year to move that into a special fun.

866
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,840
So all the monies going there. Yeah. I also, we went over the Chitton property and I reached out to Chitton

867
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:14,480
because he looked at three different ways, possibly going in maybe four. The best place is off Mount

868
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,480
Top Road where there is the state for us in Chitton property and there's actually a clearing

869
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,380
and a landing where we could go so the trucks don't. It would be that far in where they have to drag the

870
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:32,820
are clearing in our planning for us. It's not ours, but for us. Yeah, the state has used it and stuff.

871
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:37,780
Okay, so I reached out to Chitton about using that access and she's going to bring it up to their

872
01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:42,440
board tonight. She's not the one she said to talk to, so I'm going to connect with them and see about that.

873
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:51,900
Other options are easements off of the road up of McKinley, or not McKinley, what's it called?

874
01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:59,680
But that those houses are kind of high end and he said you might have to pay for these

875
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,320
events.

876
01:01:00,980 --> 01:01:05,900
A lot easier route than going, our road is almost impossible, he said, our access

877
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,500
road because it's so steep.

878
01:01:08,180 --> 01:01:11,860
The other one, he said we probably have to go and I think he'd said three miles to do the

879
01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:12,200
landing.

880
01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:13,540
You have to cross the stream.

881
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:17,020
But it's doable if we went in from that direction.

882
01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:17,620
itself.

883
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:21,900
They're trying to break, yeah.

884
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,180
But he said it looks like there's actually a lot of old class 4 roads within that, for

885
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,520
us that we might be able to, you know, go cross.

886
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:32,560
So we, it's on, can I just clarify?

887
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:40,040
The Chitton landing is on state property, but we have to ask the Chitton, it's like, no,

888
01:01:40,180 --> 01:01:42,860
if there's state for us and then there's Chitton property.

889
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:43,580
Oh, oh.

890
01:01:43,580 --> 01:01:43,720
Oh, buddy.

891
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:44,260
Yeah.

892
01:01:44,260 --> 01:01:45,740
Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

893
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:48,320
So the Chitton Town Forest has a landing.

894
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

895
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,460
And it's only a quarter of a mile,

896
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,520
which is reasonable as far as bringing

897
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,520
longs down to it, getting the truck in.

898
01:01:56,620 --> 01:02:00,180
So, and then he hopes, once we determine this,

899
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,820
then he hopes to go in.

900
01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:04,520
He's gonna start marking this year

901
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,620
and hopefully start harvesting,

902
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,000
spring summer next year.

903
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:17,220
Okay. The fourth property did we harvest the disputed?

904
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:20,200
I don't know. I don't believe they marked that.

905
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:22,580
So how are we fixing that dispute?

906
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:28,340
We would just have to figure out how to deal with this burden in the handball motor.

907
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,360
If it's going to be a huge legal battle, it's not worth probably right now.

908
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,640
Try to get some timber off its property.

909
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:44,800
No, but if if it's thirty acres of belongs to Christ, right, it's just, I think it's just clarifying with Pittsburgh that what they have on air records.

910
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:46,840
I mean, do we have a map?

911
01:02:47,220 --> 01:02:48,860
Yeah, we have a map.

912
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:50,200
Can it show us it's our property?

913
01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:54,100
So we just have to take the map to Pittsburgh and so we...

914
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:58,900
Well, whoever did the transaction back then, never recorded it in Proctor, I guess?

915
01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:59,820
In Proctor?

916
01:03:00,020 --> 01:03:00,240
Right.

917
01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:02,720
In Proctor, I don't think, as far as I want to get.

918
01:03:03,420 --> 01:03:07,540
That's, there's nothing here that shows that we don't know, I'll think.

919
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:10,600
And who shows that it owns in Pittsburgh?

920
01:03:11,980 --> 01:03:12,360
In sure.

921
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:18,620
Well, the whole water saying he does, so we'd have to see if Pittsburgh has a deep, like, if it's the deal of a dress.

922
01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:20,870
Yeah.

923
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:22,230
So, what come after?

924
01:03:22,730 --> 01:03:26,030
I think part of it is just the person I do like that.

925
01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:27,510
Okay.

926
01:03:29,710 --> 01:03:35,650
I mean, ultimately, I think it's almost everybody knows it, but I mean, we've harvested it before.

927
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:39,570
They don't know if we get it or not.

928
01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:41,450
For me, we have a harvested for you.

929
01:03:41,630 --> 01:03:43,990
What if you use it there, so.

930
01:03:44,570 --> 01:03:48,870
But I'll check with them to see what we can find out.

931
01:03:48,970 --> 01:03:51,790
I mean, we could just call them for them to send us a deal.

932
01:03:51,790 --> 01:03:52,510
Right, right.

933
01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:55,450
It's nothing that will be done this year.

934
01:04:01,030 --> 01:04:04,090
I think there's two more checks yes coming in.

935
01:04:04,290 --> 01:04:07,550
Okay, so in October, maybe we can know what the total is for that?

936
01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:14,750
We had trees cut and turned down almost B cell street in Main Street Park.

937
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:17,530
They were, I think I may have mentioned this before.

938
01:04:18,170 --> 01:04:21,450
They were dead living in, but the one on almost B, they actually took down.

939
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:23,590
It was pretty bad.

940
01:04:23,590 --> 01:04:27,990
see what he got up there and looked at it and he said it cost more for them to come back next year

941
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:32,850
and take it so you just took it down. And actually he got, we got a really good price for taking

942
01:04:32,850 --> 01:04:37,410
that tree down, dead living these in the park and dead living the ones on cell street. Who stopped money

943
01:04:37,410 --> 01:04:42,730
in the, on that line I don't know. Huh? We still have money in the tree. I think that's so yeah.

944
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:51,270
Yeah, it seems like we cut down five trees and we're up. I know. He's good and he's reasonable and he's

945
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:52,470
That's awesome.

946
01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:58,490
Public works also been trimming to road sides, catching some road spots.

947
01:04:58,930 --> 01:05:06,510
Columbia and Avenue Stormwater Line by the pump station that's the leaking where it's always flooded back there on the end.

948
01:05:07,050 --> 01:05:08,170
The drains out back.

949
01:05:08,750 --> 01:05:13,990
They're going to go dig that up tomorrow and see if there's roots causing it because they just can't get the water to go down.

950
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:15,470
It just keeps settling.

951
01:05:15,790 --> 01:05:17,410
So I don't think it's going through there.

952
01:05:17,410 --> 01:05:23,150
So that's been on our radar, you know, I think this is spring of this year, last year they were working on it.

953
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:27,670
We did it once, so they're going to go back down and do that tomorrow.

954
01:05:29,790 --> 01:05:36,790
We got an email from the agency of Commerce and Community Development regarding performance outcomes, which I do not want to say what they want.

955
01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:47,390
They said that they have to do a report every year, comments and stuff from the select board community are welcome for any grants that were given down.

956
01:05:47,390 --> 01:06:04,250
the only one I know, and I know what is the one that was given to across the street, and I don't know what kind of information they're looking for, they're very vague, just said we want comments and any input to do our final report for the year end.

957
01:06:04,930 --> 01:06:10,550
So, they don't provide you what grant you received. They just list the different types that they're looking for.

958
01:06:10,550 --> 01:06:13,950
but they don't quarterly it with a great e-digreasy.

959
01:06:16,270 --> 01:06:20,950
So, so I've just responded to say the only one we had that we didn't have was giving it to them.

960
01:06:22,610 --> 01:06:24,150
So, we'll let them know where that went.

961
01:06:26,730 --> 01:06:29,690
And then I think I emailed you, some of you today,

962
01:06:29,970 --> 01:06:35,010
and I remember fifth, there's a central sub-region exercise at the Rutland Regional Medical Center.

963
01:06:35,490 --> 01:06:39,610
From 9 to 1, it was supposed to be October 7, but that's the day of the town fair.

964
01:06:40,210 --> 01:06:50,070
So they've moved it, I'm going and I believe one of the public works guys is going and I don't know if anybody on the board, I let Bruce and Lisa know.

965
01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:53,890
And because they also mentioned it to the clerk, but I don't think she's going.

966
01:06:54,070 --> 01:06:57,770
So what it is basically is the region of the local towns together.

967
01:06:58,350 --> 01:07:04,310
So if there are issues, diversity plans, how you get together, how we kind of support each other in the process.

968
01:07:04,310 --> 01:07:07,690
So is that what you're telling laundry things that he did?

969
01:07:08,030 --> 01:07:09,310
I did reach out to him too.

970
01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:12,110
So basically, they want, yeah.

971
01:07:12,250 --> 01:07:15,170
I reached out to Kevin and YouTube and then public boards.

972
01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:18,010
So if you're interested, just let me know.

973
01:07:18,310 --> 01:07:21,030
And I could send you these details.

974
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:24,610
I mean, if you clicked on the thing, you could send it.

975
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:26,090
So.

976
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:29,370
And then just just to put a bug in here

977
01:07:29,370 --> 01:07:29,970
in the CAI.

978
01:07:31,860 --> 01:07:42,400
I think we need to revisit that whole situation.

979
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,360
Well, yeah, since our maps aren't even correct.

980
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,280
Yeah.

981
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:56,360
And then I'm attending a training this Thursday at the Rotten Regional Planning Commission

982
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,040
and it's Water Rates and Financing.

983
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:03,140
So, yeah, very interesting going to it.

984
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,460
It's about setting rates and financing and stuff for water lines

985
01:08:06,460 --> 01:08:08,300
and clean water and stuff like that.

986
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:12,000
Oh, watch, it's a battery good. Yeah, so it's all day

987
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,460
Oh, so they didn't say brown bag it

988
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,560
Yeah, I have one question. Did you ever check up with Pittsburgh as far as like trimmer West proctor road?

989
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:38,120
I resowed to Kyle to see if he wanted me to reach out to them and he said yes, so I'm going to reach out to him

990
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:44,100
I reached out to Rotland Town but never heard back so yeah and I tried to find pricing and stuff

991
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:51,300
for over the rail and it's outrageous I mean it's most of the stuff you see as attachments

992
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:56,660
two year attractor not attractor and attachments to do and I know there's lower scales which

993
01:08:56,660 --> 01:09:01,780
can but I did share with the guys that I noticed up on Route 7 North going up at Middlebury

994
01:09:01,780 --> 01:09:09,460
and root 3, that the state was doing all the trimming on the guardrails by hand-trim-by-trimmers.

995
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:12,160
They're weed-wacky, you know?

996
01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:20,260
Well, when they did that, they said they were doing the guardrails like that, checking the height of them.

997
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,440
Oh, there's something about...

998
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:27,860
They weed-wackers. They didn't do them all. They only did certain more. Yeah, and they did.

999
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:30,860
That's a wrong thing to go in between them.

1000
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,640
Oh, shit damn.

1001
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,460
I'm about to get on the backside.

1002
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,780
They had the excavator.

1003
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:37,380
And then like me, surrounded in the middle.

1004
01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:38,320
They had the bomb cat.

1005
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:41,200
Yeah, so I saw the bomb cat there a lot.

1006
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:42,660
And I didn't know what the heck they did.

1007
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:43,980
Yeah, so I worked in the woods with them.

1008
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:47,840
So if that was the thing they go in between it.

1009
01:09:47,940 --> 01:09:49,940
Because I saw them all weed-wacking it.

1010
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,780
And one guy who got weed-wacked on one side.

1011
01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:52,860
One weed-wacked on the other.

1012
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,960
And somebody else stood with a board to blow back into the...

1013
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:56,620
Oh, yeah.

1014
01:09:56,620 --> 01:09:57,660
That's how they did it all.

1015
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,140
And that's how they did it up in Milbury.

1016
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:00,260
They were all weed-wacking.

1017
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:00,880
That was it.

1018
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,880
No machinery whatsoever.

1019
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:04,940
So, it's crazy.

1020
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,700
Well, they have a lot of guys.

1021
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,780
We don't.

1022
01:10:08,540 --> 01:10:10,800
Plus, it's just the chipping of the trees, too,

1023
01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:13,740
because there's a few that really need it back, right?

1024
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:14,720
Yeah.

1025
01:10:15,020 --> 01:10:16,520
I looked into renting them, too.

1026
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,680
But it's so hard to find anything around here.

1027
01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:23,160
Well, it's such a small pool to poke.

1028
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,820
And this is that planning commission.

1029
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,240
You can send that pass that out.

1030
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,220
That's what I just shared with you at the Rotten Regional Mental Performance.

1031
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:31,320
Just a case of medicine.

1032
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,480
Can you turn anything else?

1033
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:37,060
Yeah, Judy.

1034
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,740
I just have a few items.

1035
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,260
These items.

1036
01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:42,280
And that, you know, out of creek watershed,

1037
01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:43,720
insect control.

1038
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,360
I just want to pass out, you know,

1039
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,600
it's for you knowing the Rotten Spring, you know,

1040
01:10:51,460 --> 01:10:54,860
that's where almost to the end of the season

1041
01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:57,100
or they're going to run to rise the equipment.

1042
01:10:58,060 --> 01:11:01,240
And they're not putting out the traps doing any testing.

1043
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,440
They're just looking to see if they get a lot of calls,

1044
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,700
if they do, they'll go through the manual,

1045
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,060
netting to try and see if you meet the threshold for spring.

1046
01:11:11,420 --> 01:11:13,820
But it looks like the season's pretty much over.

1047
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,000
And you'll see on the top right hand side,

1048
01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:19,920
they sprayed 114 routes, and then the break down

1049
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,020
by each town is on that listing.

1050
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:32,000
And one of the hot topic items was, you know, the speed that the trucks are going

1051
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:32,660
now.

1052
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,600
They got a lot of questions, and so they just put together a flyer, and you'll get the

1053
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:46,580
one with the colored top two pages, and the rest of us are just going to get the bottom

1054
01:11:46,580 --> 01:11:47,060
page.

1055
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:55,740
And that will explain, you know, how they came up to, or the speech that they're using.

1056
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,280
I guess that was a great paper for companies.

1057
01:11:58,760 --> 01:11:59,220
I know.

1058
01:11:59,640 --> 01:11:59,780
I know.

1059
01:11:59,780 --> 01:11:59,940
I know.

1060
01:12:00,580 --> 01:12:00,800
I know.

1061
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,120
I know.

1062
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:02,120
I know.

1063
01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:03,740
I know.

1064
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,600
That's their construction paper.

1065
01:12:08,660 --> 01:12:09,400
Yeah, yeah, I was like,

1066
01:12:12,260 --> 01:12:13,160
that's free there.

1067
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,960
And that's the OCW update.

1068
01:12:16,780 --> 01:12:20,240
And then also, I got an update from the bus.

1069
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:22,440
And there's going to be the first one who's

1070
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:25,500
going to be the year over year comparison.

1071
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,160
First mind's going to be colored.

1072
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:29,200
But years are going to be black and white.

1073
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:36,620
But you'll see, you know, at least, you know, all of the people that you was the service and

1074
01:12:36,620 --> 01:12:46,300
proctor, you know, in fiscal year 25, we were at 4,549 writers, and in fiscal year 26, we were

1075
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:49,560
at 3,822 writers, using that.

1076
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Is that exactly reduced the hours?

1077
01:12:51,920 --> 01:13:00,180
Wow, man, the next thing I'm going to give you is the impact of, and this is a month over month.

1078
01:13:01,780 --> 01:13:10,340
This one is going to show you fiscal year 27 July and fiscal year 26 July when you go down the tractor.

1079
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,320
You know, last year, in July we had 533 riders this year and July we had 118.

1080
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,740
Again, that's because of the combination of things.

1081
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:31,820
You know, the impact on 26 would have been the route reduction, but now we're seeing the impact of fairs.

1082
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:44,460
You know, but you look at all of the comparisons, fiscal year 27, fiscal year 26 for month over month, or the months of July, you'll see that pretty much all of them are down.

1083
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:56,600
And then the bus ended the fiscal year in the red $347

1084
01:13:59,510 --> 01:14:03,850
,000, and that's on a $7.5 million budget.

1085
01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:06,690
But they had money in the checking account.

1086
01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:14,470
So they were able to cover that deficit, and they still have $650,000 in that checking account.

1087
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:21,470
So, the biggest driver of the deficit was it was over 200,000.

1088
01:14:21,630 --> 01:14:28,850
They have a O&D program, older adults, and people with disability that's funded by

1089
01:14:28,850 --> 01:14:32,350
a grant from the state of Vermont for 625,000.

1090
01:14:32,730 --> 01:14:43,250
And in that, you know, it provides transportation for critical care in just a year 26 for

1091
01:14:43,250 --> 01:14:52,290
critical care, they did 3,438 trips for medical, they did 4,647 for shopping, and they

1092
01:14:52,290 --> 01:14:56,250
did 1,574, and then they have social vocational.

1093
01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:59,970
Now this, this is set up such that you can

1094
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,480
You can only use the service four times a month with the exception of the critical care.

1095
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:14,920
In the critical care is going to for your cancer treatments and or dialysis.

1096
01:15:15,460 --> 01:15:17,780
They won't turn anybody away for those.

1097
01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:23,860
That's why they incurred.

1098
01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:29,480
You can make adjustments when you see you're going to run a deficit, you know, in the

1099
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:33,560
ninth month or whatever, but with these critical care and the doctors, they won't

1100
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:34,720
turn the people away.

1101
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,400
You know, they know they had some money in reserve, so that's what they're falling back

1102
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:39,820
on.

1103
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:49,440
So, is the 650 minus 347 or the 347 taken out in their 650 left?

1104
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,920
There's 650 left.

1105
01:15:57,380 --> 01:16:00,720
So I had my magnifying glass. I'd tell you exactly what that question.

1106
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,680
No, no, that's why I had around $650,000.

1107
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,780
That's why I'm just scared.

1108
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:13,180
And so, the most even thing, they sprayed five times in part of it.

1109
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,380
No, eight and five. There's an east route in the west route.

1110
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:22,500
On the west, they did it eight times and on the east, they did it five times.

1111
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:37,580
And you look at Goatian on the bottom, they only had three diamonds, but I think when they put the budget together, they try and target being able to do it each row seven times.

1112
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:49,640
And so that would equate to 119, and you can see in the top right hand corner, they did 114, and last year they did 72.

1113
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:55,480
too. So it was a little busier this year than last year. I'm surprised I

1114
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:57,800
closed the alarm because I feel like when I was getting noticed it's like

1115
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,320
they were spraying a luster all the time and sells very even Brandon.

1116
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,300
Yeah. Then I'm going to start, you know, is on there a web page.

1117
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,160
Well, thank you for that.

1118
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,120
Okay, that's all I have for you.

1119
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,540
Good and good.

1120
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,180
Good and good.

1121
01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:22,920
Alright, anything else? Any agenda items for next week?

1122
01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:32,520
And I must be in order to adjourn

1123
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,820
So, 718, followed.

1124
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:37,680
Is that it?

1125
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,600
Oh, there's a favor?

1126
01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:40,660
Alright.

1127
01:17:41,300 --> 01:17:43,120
I'm just passing through the end of the story.