1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,680 Welcome to the Pro Mesville Council 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,279 regular meeting March 24th, 2026 at 5:30 3 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:06,799 p.m. 4 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:09,040 We will do a roll of the elected 5 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,200 officials starting with councelor Rachel 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Whipple, Rachel Whipple, 7 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:14,000 >> Jeff Whitlock, 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,880 >> Becky Bogden, 9 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,759 >> Craig Christensen, 10 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:16,960 >> Krice McKay, 11 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,080 >> Gary Garrett, 12 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:19,920 >> and we do have Kyle sitting in for the 13 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 bear who's unable to be here tonight. 14 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,199 Um, we'll have an opening prayer by Doug 15 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,680 Robbins. 16 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,279 Former 17 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,599 Parks and Rec director. We're very 18 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:33,760 excited to see him. He looks so young in 19 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,640 his retirement. 20 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,760 >> Yes. Welcome home. 21 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,840 Our father in heaven, we're thankful for 22 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,320 this evening and to be here together at 23 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,840 this council meeting. Father, we're 24 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,320 grateful for this community and the good 25 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,719 people that reside here. We're thankful 26 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:51,840 for the legacy of citizenship 27 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,760 and camaraderie that we share here in 28 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,320 this community. We ask thee, Father, for 29 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,359 thy spirit to be with us here tonight 30 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,320 with this community council 31 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 and the residents of Provo that are here 32 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,119 that we might be able to discuss the 33 00:01:07,119 --> 00:01:10,799 issues that come before this body. 34 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:13,840 and we pray for thy spirit to be with 35 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 our elected officials that they'll make 36 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,360 wise decisions for the welfare of the 37 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,280 community. 38 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Father, we're grateful for all these 39 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,520 many blessings that we receive on from 40 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,439 thee each day and we express our 41 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,280 gratitude in the name of Jesus Christ. 42 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Amen. 43 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,880 >> Amen. 44 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,479 >> Thank you, Doug. We'll all stand for the 45 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:35,190 pledge of allegiance, please. 46 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,560 I aliance to the flag of the United 47 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,439 States of America and to the republic 48 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:44,079 for which it stands. One nation under 49 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:47,119 God, indivisible with liberty and 50 00:01:47,119 --> 00:01:53,910 justice for all. 51 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,560 right. 52 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,399 Oh, we'd like to recognize that Travis 53 00:01:58,399 --> 00:02:00,880 Hoben is on Zoom with us. So, we have 54 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,119 all seven of us. Um, first of all, we're 55 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:04,320 going to have a ceremony recognizing the 56 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,920 proceeding employee of the month. And 57 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,360 this will be presented by Tad Smallcom, 58 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:21,350 our interimm director of energy. 59 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,520 » Hello. 60 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,040 I'd like to introduce to you our 61 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,480 employee of the month, Alonso Cardinas. 62 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,640 He um he came to Provo Power in 2012 63 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,360 with 17 years of experience as a master 64 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,920 electrician, seven years electrical 65 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,160 engineering consulting experience and 66 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,760 with a degree in electrical engineering 67 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 from Brigham Young University. And then 68 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,560 he got busy. 69 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,239 He has developed, implemented, managed 70 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:52,239 new and managed new and exciting 71 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:54,879 projects to enable and enhance system 72 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:56,720 automation 73 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,120 to boldly and effectively move power 74 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,360 forward in our goal to be the most 75 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,800 reliable utility in the nation. 76 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,599 These include underground and overhead 77 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:10,239 switch automation, which allows us not 78 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:13,120 only to monitor and receive information 79 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,680 and data from switches across Provo, but 80 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 will also provide protection and 81 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,560 automatic fault isolation and source 82 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,519 restoration when problems arise. This 83 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:25,440 will help reduce the scope and duration 84 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 of outages. And since automated pushes 85 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,879 can't be everywhere, um he's also 86 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:32,799 currently vetting remotely monitored 87 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:46,070 false circuit indicators anywhere else. 88 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:58,149 He's new. 89 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:00,640 fiber connections that uh that run to 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 these pieces of equipment. While he was 91 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,599 at it, he uh earned a master's degree in 92 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:08,000 public administration at BYU. In 93 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,920 addition, he to developing relay 94 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,640 upgrades, in-house steel pole design, 95 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,400 skate upgrades, etc., etc. 96 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,840 As you see, uh, Alfonso works hard and 97 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:23,040 he's willing to tackle any challenge. He 98 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,360 is always happy to work through problems 99 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,040 and issues with customers and crews, not 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,600 to mention jumping in when we need help 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,880 with electrical needs around the office. 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Alons Alfonso is an exemplary employee 103 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,160 and has implemented numerous changes, 104 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,479 improvements and practices that have 105 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:45,680 vastly improved our electrical systems 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,120 and we are happy to recognize him today 107 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,759 as the employee of the month. Thank you 108 00:04:51,759 --> 00:05:02,469 Alphonsto. Congratulations. 109 00:05:02,479 --> 00:05:07,909 That's what they're giving these days. 110 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:12,720 » And the photo and white. 111 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:37,510 Yeah. 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:06:03,830 Okay, we get close up. 113 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:25,909 That's what I'm talking about. 114 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,000 All right. Next, we have a ceremony 115 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,639 recognizing Provo City's epic sports 116 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,600 park as Utah's sports complex of the 117 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,199 year. And we are so excited about this. 118 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:37,919 We built the sports complex as a revenue 119 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:39,840 generator for Provo and when it is 120 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:42,160 finalized it'll be the largest sports 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,479 complex in the state and that's going to 122 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:46,400 bring a lot of tournaments and revenue 123 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,919 to the city and we are so excited about 124 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:50,479 that that that this be presented by Dan 125 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:52,639 Farn sports field management association 126 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:53,919 president from the inter mountain 127 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:55,600 chapter and director of fields and 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:07,189 grounds for real Salt Lake. 129 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:10,000 Hello everyone. 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,520 I just uh erased my talking points. 131 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Sorry. 132 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Um 133 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,000 I appreciate uh the time this evening. 134 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Um mayor council people and um yeah, my 135 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,039 name is Dan Farms. I'm the senior 136 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:28,800 director of fields and grounds for Real 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Salt Lake. I'm also the uh president for 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,000 the inner mountain chapter of the sports 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 field management association. 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,039 Um over the past few years we've given 141 00:07:39,039 --> 00:07:41,599 out these uh field of the years or 142 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:44,639 complexes of the years um awards to 143 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:49,360 people throughout the state and uh I'm 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,479 excited to be able to um give this award 145 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:55,919 to the Epic Sports Park. Um I have known 146 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:58,560 Cole who runs the park over there for a 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 few years. 148 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 uh in unique settings where I am a 149 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,599 colleague of his and then I also helped 150 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:09,759 with the sod that they put down at the 151 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:12,319 epic sports park as well. So just kind 152 00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:15,280 of a unique uh relationship that we have 153 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,080 there. Um 154 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,960 in my opinion the the sports park is one 155 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,440 of the best in the state. Um the amount 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 of fields that you all have were built 157 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,400 correctly. They're sandbased fields. So 158 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,360 that helps uh keep them level, have good 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 drainage, good playability, so you can 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 program them as much as you as you need 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,680 to. Um I think what Cole and his staff 162 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:43,039 have done over there has been um 163 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,360 amazing. Um I know they've only been 164 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,680 open for a couple years. Um but what 165 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,920 they've been able to achieve has been um 166 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,760 great and we're here to recognize them 167 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,399 for that. So I have a plaque for Cole 168 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,480 and for Ryland if if those guys want to 169 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,200 come up. Um it just says sports complex 170 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,200 of the year. Um it's the second year 171 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,600 that we've done this. There were five 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,680 different entries and we felt that uh 173 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:10,160 Epic uh was the best out of all the out 174 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,920 of all of them. It just says awarded to 175 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,839 Epic Sports Park, Provo Parks and 176 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:16,000 Recreation in recognition of excellence 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 in providing beautiful high quality safe 178 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,959 sports fields and playing services for 179 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:22,480 2026. 180 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:33,430 So uh I'll give this to these guys. 181 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Just wanted to say thanks Dan and uh 182 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:37,600 it's an honor to receive this award here 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,120 in Provo. Um but many past councils, 184 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,880 mayors, 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,440 uh employees, tons have been involved, 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,800 partnerships that have made this 187 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,120 possible. And so for a picture, if it's 188 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,200 okay, we'd like to invite anybody who's 189 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,959 been a part of the Epic Sports Park to 190 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:55,680 please stand and join us uh in that 191 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:57,760 photo. So if I have to call your name 192 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,440 out and embarrass you, you will get up 193 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 here for the photo. So please come 194 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,080 >> here. 195 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 >> Okay, we'll do it up behind the council 196 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,760 up there. 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:08,800 >> You guys will be right here. 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,560 >> Okay, perfect. 199 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,360 >> Terra, 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,440 come on up. 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,640 Hey, move down, guys. 202 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,760 >> Hawk, 203 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,600 >> Landon, come on. Lwick. Yep. Here's some 204 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,680 of our players, too, that have played at 205 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,440 the Epic. 206 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:43,509 Please come up. 207 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:51,269 » Soccer players coming from 208 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:53,839 right there. 209 00:10:53,839 --> 00:11:25,110 >> Like a me picture. 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,279 All right. Next, we have a presentation 211 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:29,360 of a million-doll contribution from the 212 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Metropolitan Water District of Provo to 213 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 support the new drinking water treatment 214 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,839 plant project. And this is a very rare 215 00:11:35,839 --> 00:11:37,360 thing that we have people give us money. 216 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,920 So, we are very grateful and excited. 217 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,040 We've done a lot of water projects in 218 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,399 the past few years and they're 219 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:46,560 incredibly expensive, but it's um been 220 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:47,920 well worth it. So, we're going to hear 221 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,519 from Dan Johnson, the manager of the 222 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:53,600 Metropolitan Water District of Provo. 223 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,760 >> I'm just going to quickly introduce Dan. 224 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Um I'm Ryan York. I'm the water division 225 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 director for Provo. Uh I also have the 226 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,399 honor of of being the provo appointed 227 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:07,519 member to the uh metropolitan district 228 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:11,360 board. Um and just a really quick 229 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,279 background on the metropolitan water 230 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,959 district. They were organized in 1938 u 231 00:12:16,959 --> 00:12:18,800 to take on the debt obligation of Deer 232 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,560 Creek Reservoir. 233 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,720 uh the city could not handle that debt 234 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,200 obligation at that time and so the um 235 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,600 organ the metropolitan water district 236 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,079 was formed uh to take on that debt 237 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:32,079 obligation. 238 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:34,079 Uh since that time Provo City has 239 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:36,160 purchased up to 8,000 acre feet of water 240 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,639 annually from the district uh from the 241 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:41,040 metropolitan water district of Provo uh 242 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,800 who then made payment to Provo River 243 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,880 water users uh for construction, 244 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 repayment and maintenance of the dam. Uh 245 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,519 over the more recent decades, 246 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,440 Metropolitan Water District of Provo has 247 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,519 purchased canal shares, participated 248 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:56,480 financially in drill drilling wells, and 249 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,480 most recently helped finance the 250 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,720 development of Big Springs in South 251 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,639 Fork. Uh today, uh Metropolitan Water 252 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:07,680 District of Provo is back again to help 253 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,399 Provo City with our water needs. Dan 254 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:12,639 Johnson is here to uh make a 255 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:14,480 presentation for our drinking water 256 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,870 treatment plant. 257 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Thanks, Ryan. I'll just read the letter 258 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,920 that makes this official and how we came 259 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,920 to this point. 260 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,839 During a recent quarterly meeting for 261 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:29,440 the Metropolitan Water District of 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Provo, the board of directors discussed 263 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,560 possible ways uh some of their funds 264 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,160 could be used to help with Provo's 265 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,480 future water needs. This has been an 266 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,320 ongoing discussion for the board and 267 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,279 Provo City for many years as Ryan said 268 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:45,920 since 1934 269 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,720 >> 38 and has led to some very timely 270 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,680 funding helping at various times for 271 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,680 some excellent water projects that the 272 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,079 city has needed. This discussion 273 00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:57,920 centered around the new treatment plant 274 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,839 being built and the possible need for 275 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:02,399 some additional funding. The board felt 276 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:05,040 like this was an opportunity to help and 277 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,279 unanimously agreed to contribute $1 278 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:10,160 million. This money will be transferred 279 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,399 electronically for cost related to the 280 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:15,120 new drinking water treatment plant. 281 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,519 Sincerely, myself as a manager and 282 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,320 Dennis Weir as the chair. And Jimmy's 283 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,279 here. Can we do the electronics? 284 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:27,279 Jimmy, I think Gordon is here too. 285 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:30,560 So, I'll give this letter to Ryan and 286 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,320 we thank you. 287 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:41,269 >> Thank you. 288 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,279 » All right. As indicated on the screen, a 289 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:44,800 required public hearing will be held for 290 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,639 certain agenda items prior to council 291 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:49,040 action. After each such item has been 292 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,639 presented, time to comment will be 293 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:52,079 provided for all those who wish to 294 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:54,160 speak. For items that do not require 295 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,600 public hearing, public comment will 296 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,680 start will still be taken following 297 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,199 presentation of the item but will be 298 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,440 limited to 10 minutes. At this time, up 299 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,279 to 15 minutes have been set aside for an 300 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,040 open public comment period, which is 301 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,560 intended to allow a comment on matters 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,079 that do not appear on the agenda, but 303 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:09,279 are limited to topics regarding 304 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,519 municipal business or within municipal 305 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,760 council purview. Persons who speak 306 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,360 during this time to an item that is on 307 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,720 the agenda will not normally be afforded 308 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,639 a second opportunity to speak during the 309 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:20,560 comment period specific to that item. 310 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,320 During any public comment period, each 311 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,920 speaker will generally be limited to two 312 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,839 minutes. Due to noticing requirements, 313 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:27,600 no formal action will be taken in this 314 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,959 meeting on matters that do not appear on 315 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:30,639 the agenda. Those with comments are 316 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:32,320 invited to approach the podium. Those 317 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,600 participating on Zoom will need to use 318 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,120 the raise hand feature to indicate they 319 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,279 wish to comment. The chair may choose to 320 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:39,120 alternate between in-person and online 321 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,279 commenters. Please begin your comments 322 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,600 by starting stating your name and their 323 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,279 city of residence. You'll have two 324 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:46,959 minutes to speak. If anyone wants to 325 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:48,959 have public comment, um, now is your 326 00:15:48,959 --> 00:15:51,600 chance. 327 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,199 All right, we'll move on to council 328 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:55,680 business. First, an implied motion on an 329 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,600 ordinance pro city code to require 330 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,880 planning commissioners running for 331 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 public office to take a leap of absence. 332 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,199 This will be presented by Tanner 333 00:16:03,199 --> 00:16:12,069 Tiguchi, our council policy analyst. 334 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:13,839 » Terrific. Thank you, council, for having 335 00:16:13,839 --> 00:16:16,240 me to explain this issue item. Uh, this 336 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,920 is a council sponsored issue. 337 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,320 uh brought forward by chair mccay and 338 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,279 vice chair Christensen 339 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:26,959 and 340 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:29,279 here we go I'll put up the effects of 341 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:31,519 the proposal legal uh legal effects of 342 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:34,160 the proposal the purpose of this uh 343 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,000 issue item is to ensure that the 344 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,360 planning commission remains a 345 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,680 non-political advisory body to the mayor 346 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,480 and council and can't be used as a 347 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 platform for personal campaigning uh 348 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,759 during an election year up until this 349 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,279 point. Um the practice to avoid the 350 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,000 commission becoming such a platform has 351 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,639 been that commissioners who run for 352 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:00,240 office would voluntarily resign. This 353 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,720 proposal that we're uh considering 354 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,880 tonight to change the code does not 355 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,199 require a resignation. However, it would 356 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:09,520 require a leave of absence during that 357 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,079 campaign. 358 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,199 So the this is just one metric that we 359 00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:18,480 can use to try to illustrate the the the 360 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,559 potential issue here. The city council 361 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,160 of course is a political body and so 362 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,079 there's no problem there. The 363 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,799 neighborhood district uh executive board 364 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:29,520 has a similar provision in code right 365 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,880 now to this proposal uh that we're 366 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,240 considering for the planning commission 367 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,480 already. And you can see there in the 368 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,480 graph, uh, the planning commission has 369 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,480 much more frequent meetings and a higher 370 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,840 engagement than the other boards and 371 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,720 commissions in the city. 372 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Uh, as I mentioned, the neighborhood 373 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 district boards have a provision in code 374 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,880 similar to the proposal for the planning 375 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,640 commission. The only changes that we've 376 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,559 made to the language in that 377 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:57,360 neighborhood executive board code is to 378 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,120 change the word executive board to 379 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,880 planning commission. And I also want to 380 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,120 point out one change that has been made 381 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,880 since we talked about this in the work 382 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,640 meeting that we changed the phrase the 383 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,160 election on the bottom half of the 384 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,960 screen to their candidacy as you'll see 385 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,039 in the top half of the screen. That 386 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:15,919 change was made just to make clear that 387 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:18,080 we're talking about the individual's 388 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,440 election. That is to say their 389 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,000 candidacy. So if the uh candidate loses 390 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,320 in the primary or for another reason 391 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,240 stops campaigning then they are free to 392 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,720 resume their responsibilities on the 393 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,200 commission. 394 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Lastly, I just wanted to clear up for 395 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,480 the public and for the council just some 396 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,320 technical points uh that were discussed 397 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,559 in earlier public meetings. The leave of 398 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:42,480 absence would be effective immediately 399 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,840 upon filing. So, different uh public 400 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,679 offices have different filing periods. 401 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:50,480 For example, if you file for partisan uh 402 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,559 state legislative seat, you would have 403 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,039 to file in January. If you were running 404 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:56,320 for the city council, that filing 405 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,919 period, as I understand, is typically in 406 00:18:57,919 --> 00:19:01,600 June. But if you file in January, your 407 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,360 absence starts in January. If you file 408 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:04,960 in June, then your absence starts in 409 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,720 June 410 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,799 until the election is done or the 411 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,240 candidacy ends. So, uh, that the 412 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,280 proposal is to adopt the ordinance as 413 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,720 written. I'm free to answer any 414 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,440 questions. 415 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,880 >> Thanks, Tanner. Any questions for 416 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,360 Tanner? Council Garrett. And just to 417 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:25,679 clarify, Tanner, you did say that the um 418 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,240 once, for example, if you were to lose 419 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,200 in a primary race, you could retain your 420 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,440 seat. You could return to your se your 421 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,120 service as a commissioner. 422 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,960 >> Yes. So, you would be able to Yeah. The 423 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,120 entire time you would maintain your 424 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:42,960 seat. So, to that second point that I 425 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,280 didn't talk about, there's no function, 426 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,600 there's no provision in the code to have 427 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,200 someone step into your seat. You would 428 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,520 just be absent. One of the issu is 429 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,440 issues that has been brought up through 430 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,039 the stages of this uh discussion is that 431 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:59,120 sometimes there's difficulty maintaining 432 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,600 a quorum in the planning commission. We 433 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,280 have nine members to try to prevent that 434 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,799 issue. But if there were multiple 435 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,799 commissioners who would were running in 436 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:08,320 a particular year and it becomes 437 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,120 difficult to form a quorum, then either 438 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,880 council or mayor action would be needed 439 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,440 to uh remove those people from the 440 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,720 planning commission and appoint new 441 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,640 people who could be present. 442 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,880 >> Thank you. Any 443 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720 other questions? All right. Thanks so 444 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280 much, Tanner. You 445 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,640 >> We'll open this item up for public 446 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,240 comment. Is there any public comment on 447 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,960 this item? 448 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,000 >> All right. We'll move to council 449 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,520 discussion. Any council discussion on 450 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,919 this item, 451 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:37,520 Council Whitlock? 452 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,080 >> Uh I think this is great and I 453 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080 appreciate the work done on this. Uh I 454 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,520 was as someone who was on the planning 455 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,520 commission who ran for city council, the 456 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,320 lack of structure was uh kind of tricky. 457 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,919 he was like, "Do I resign? When do I 458 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:52,159 resign?" Um, so I just think making it 459 00:20:52,159 --> 00:20:53,679 clear and very structured and then with 460 00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:56,159 the opportunity to come back is is is a 461 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:58,080 really good move that makes the planning 462 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,240 commission uh fulfill its intended 463 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,760 purpose of being a non-political body. 464 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,039 >> Thanks, Jeff. Um, any other comments? 465 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:08,320 All right, we will take a vote on the 466 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,559 implied motion. Councelor Garrett, 467 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:11,120 >> yes. 468 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,880 >> Councelor McCay, yes. Councelor 469 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Christensen, 470 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,000 >> yes. 471 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,200 >> Councelor Whitlock, 472 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:15,600 >> yes. 473 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,720 >> Councelor Bogdan, 474 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,559 >> yes. Councelor Hoben, 475 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:19,440 >> yes. 476 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,960 >> Councelor Whipple, 477 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,400 >> yes. That passes 70. Next, implied 478 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,400 motion on ordinance enacting anti- 479 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,760 idling restrictions for certain 480 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,520 commercial trucks. This will also be 481 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,360 presented by Tanner. 482 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,880 >> Good evening, council. Thank you for 483 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,360 having me to explain this issue item. 484 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,600 Uh, this issue was sponsored uh by 485 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,679 councelor Bogdan and seconded by 486 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:43,200 councelor Whipple. Uh the purpose of 487 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,440 this proposed ordinance is to limit 488 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960 potential uh negative impacts uh to the 489 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,200 public from engine idling from heavy 490 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,480 trucks. So I'll put up the legal impacts 491 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,400 here. The context, sorry, the context 492 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,440 for this uh issue is that because there 493 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 is a shortage of trucks along the WA 494 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,080 truck stops, designated truck parking 495 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,640 spaces along the Wasatch Front, uh truck 496 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,520 drivers are forced to use open available 497 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000 commercial lots or public roadways to 498 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,159 park to take their mandatory federally 499 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:19,120 mandated uh breaks and that has left 500 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,360 some spillover into other places because 501 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:24,240 there's not enough public truck parking. 502 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 So, we want to not discourage truck 503 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,600 parking per se, but to try to mitigate 504 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,679 potential negative effects on resident 505 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:34,960 quality of life. Uh, those impacts on 506 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,520 resident quality of life will probably 507 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,039 be felt most uh keenly in places where 508 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,559 commercial lots are immediately adjacent 509 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:46,640 to residential areas. There are, these 510 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,559 are just two, but there are a few 511 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,320 located throughout the city where this 512 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,559 could uh create an issue hypothetically 513 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:56,799 uh with heavy commercial trucks idling, 514 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,559 emitting noise and uh odors into the 515 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,720 community. Uh not all trucks will do 516 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,480 that. Not all trucks will necessarily be 517 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,600 idling, but they could to maintain their 518 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,919 electricity in their cabin. 519 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:12,000 So, the benefits of the language in the 520 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240 proposed text amendment is that one, it 521 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,720 does not uh discourage truckers per se, 522 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,559 but puts limits on uh truck drivers 523 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:23,679 impact on the community. Um, as I was 524 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:26,240 researching this issue, I thought about 525 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,000 how the current noise ordinance might be 526 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,679 able to be applied to achieve the same 527 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:32,559 results. And, you know, in principle, 528 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,799 that could be true. Um, what this would 529 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,840 do is essentially streamline the process 530 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,200 of eliminating that noise without having 531 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,880 to take a measurement because the 532 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,360 current noise ordinance requires that a 533 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,200 noise measurement be taken and reach a 534 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,039 certain decel level at a certain 535 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,280 distance. So, as it pertains to heavy 536 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,840 trucks, that would no longer be required 537 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,360 and also um this would address idling as 538 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,200 a concept and so it would take into 539 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,559 consideration the odors emitted as well. 540 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,559 Thank you, Tanner. 541 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,200 >> Um, one last thing just this was covered 542 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,799 before 543 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:10,480 um in the work meeting, but as I've 544 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,720 talked with law enforcement officials, 545 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,840 this is not proactively enforced 546 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,919 typically in other cities that have 547 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:20,480 anti-aging ordinances, but it does allow 548 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,039 the police to respond to complaints and 549 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,039 to step in on behalf of citizens who may 550 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,640 be affected by this. And as far as um 551 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,120 the impact on the truck drivers that 552 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,080 would be involved in this, um the state 553 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,520 actually requires that our ordinance uh 554 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480 allow for a warning beforehand. So any 555 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,159 enforcement officers would have to issue 556 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:44,799 a warning before giving a citation and 557 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,760 that citation would follow the uh 558 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,840 parking fee schedule, the parking fine 559 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,480 schedule. 560 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,600 So uh the proposal is to adopt the 561 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,120 ordinance as written. I'm open to any 562 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,000 questions. 563 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,480 >> Thanks, Tanner. Any questions for Tener? 564 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720 All right. Thank you. 565 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,240 We will open this item up for public 566 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,600 comment. Is there any public comment on 567 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,679 this item? 568 00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:08,799 >> All right. See no public comment. 569 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,320 Council discussion. Any discussion on 570 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,120 this item? Councelor Bogdan. 571 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,640 >> I just wanted to explain a little bit 572 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,360 about this. We have gotten complaints 573 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,080 about trucks idling in some of our 574 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,000 places and in Provo. And number one, I 575 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,600 didn't want to prevent that because we 576 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,279 need trucks for the goods and services 577 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,960 that we do have here. And truck drivers 578 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,039 do need a place to stop. We do have a 579 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,960 couple of truck stops further south, but 580 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,880 they are pretty full. And if you've ever 581 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,600 been to the Springville Walmart, it gets 582 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720 it starts to to impact there. And I've 583 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960 noticed the East Bay is starting to get 584 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,200 impacted as well. So, it's something 585 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,880 that we wanted to get ahead I wanted to 586 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 get ahead of. so that we could have 587 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 something for the residents because 588 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,919 there has been a lot of concern about 589 00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,840 the noise and about the pollutants in 590 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,159 the air of the diesel fuel and and the 591 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:03,679 different things. So, I think this is a 592 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:05,919 good compromise and a good start. 593 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:07,600 Thanks. 594 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840 >> Yeah, councelor Whipple. 595 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600 >> Yeah, I was supportive of this with 596 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Becky. She's the one who originally 597 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,240 raised the concern. Um, I had the 598 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720 experience where a smaller truck than 599 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000 the ones that are are regulated by this 600 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 refrigerated truck parked on the street 601 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,919 by my house on like a Sunday morning and 602 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:30,559 as it cycled on and off like it was a 603 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,760 really really loud um I just went and 604 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,279 said hi and asked if they needed 605 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,120 anything because you know this guy's 606 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,360 parked on my street. Nice person, good 607 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,679 interaction. But I can see how, 608 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,679 especially with the large trucks, if 609 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:46,159 they're in those big parking lots that 610 00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:48,640 are close to residents, that could be a 611 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,799 much bigger impact. Um, the noise, the 612 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,440 fumes, you know, that immediate local 613 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760 air quality really is adversely 614 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:06,080 affected. So, I'm glad that we are being responsive to these very real 615 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,320 concerns of our residents who are close 616 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,799 to these important commercial areas and 617 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,600 that we are giving our police the tools 618 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,760 that they need to protect our residents. 619 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,840 >> All right. Any other public comment or 620 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080 council discussion? All right. Yeah. 621 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,559 Councelor Garrett, 622 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,880 >> Becky, maybe you can just um having 623 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,320 studied this issue a little bit, you can 624 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,120 help me understand a couple of questions 625 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,000 uh issues. So, in an official truck 626 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,360 stop, can the trucks leave their motors 627 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,600 running? 628 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,360 If it's an official designated truck 629 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:41,919 stop, 630 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:43,919 >> the reason why we didn't go any further 631 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,159 into this is because there is technology 632 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:48,400 now where they don't have to do that. 633 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,799 >> Okay? So, it's it's phasing out 634 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,880 >> so that in the winter time they can stay 635 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,080 warm and 636 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,760 >> Yeah. And and Flying J is renovating 637 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,679 from what we understand, right? And 638 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,159 they're including some of those I would 639 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:03,840 call them like an EV charging station 640 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240 where they can just plug in and not have 641 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,080 to pollute because we did think about 642 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,640 that. I mean, if you're going to have 643 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,799 trucks come to your property, you 644 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,600 probably should be a rest a truck stop, 645 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,440 >> provide some kind of services, but it 646 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,360 didn't make any sense if that's phasing 647 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,919 out. Why have companies put forth all 648 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:24,000 that money to 649 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,799 >> for what reason in in five 10 years? 650 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,640 >> Okay. Just curious. Thank you, 651 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,159 >> Councelor Whitlock. 652 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:33,919 >> So, my father is a retired school 653 00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:35,919 teacher, now a truck driver. That's how 654 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:37,279 he got bored, became a truck driver. So, 655 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:38,559 I I asked him a lot of questions about 656 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,000 this and to uh counselor Bogdan's point, 657 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080 a lot of the newer trucks actually have 658 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,799 an automatic uh switchover from diesel 659 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:50,000 to a backup generator after 3 minutes. 660 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,799 Um the general feedback I got was like 661 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,039 one minute is quite aggressive. Um I 662 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,200 still support 100% the intent of this 663 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,679 ordinance, but um that was my my 664 00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:01,120 father's point of view is that like one 665 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,720 minute a truck driver will regularly 666 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,480 turn on their engine to like get it 667 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240 going. Um, and it can what be a minute, and a half. He felt like two to 668 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,600 three minutes was much more reasonable 669 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,919 for the intent, but as you said, it's 670 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:15,200 oftentimes uh not proactively enforced 671 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,880 at the one minute. But that would be my 672 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,640 only feedback on the ordinance from the 673 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,590 questions I asked. 674 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,919 » All right, we will vote on the implied 675 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,640 motion. Councelor McCay, yes. Councelor 676 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,360 Christensen, 677 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,840 >> yes. 678 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,200 >> Councelor Whitlock, 679 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,600 >> yes. 680 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,799 >> Councelor Bogdan, 681 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:34,640 >> yes. Councelor Hoben, 682 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,600 >> yes. 683 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,720 >> Councelor Whipple, 684 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,279 >> yes. 685 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,720 >> And councelor Garrett, 686 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,520 >> yes. 687 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480 >> And that passes 70. Last, an implied 688 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,480 motion on ordinance requiring payment of 689 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,240 civil fines to renew a rental dwelling 690 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,159 license. And again, Tanner, this whole 691 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:48,960 meeting is you. 692 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000 >> Great. Well, I'm grateful to be able to 693 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,760 present this issue item that was brought 694 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,679 forth by Chair McKay and Vice Chair 695 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,200 Christensen. 696 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,279 Uh, this will affect the business 697 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,799 licensing title of the code. Um, this is 698 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,880 being brought forth because as it stands 699 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960 right now, there are a list of grounds 700 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840 under which the city can deny or suspend 701 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,240 and revoke a residential dwelling 702 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,039 license or RDL. Uh, some of those 703 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,440 reasons include misrepresenting yourself 704 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440 in the application or being out of 705 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760 compliance with the zoning code. 706 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,000 included in those list or what is not 707 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,399 included in that list currently is 708 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:29,039 failure to pay civil fines that were 709 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,440 acred because of a violation of the 710 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,600 zoning code. So what this would do is 711 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,440 add that failure to pay fines as a 712 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600 grounds for denial or suspension 713 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,559 revocation of RDL. What it also does is 714 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,520 although the current code does allow for 715 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,200 denial or revocation based on 716 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,880 non-compliance, this actually just makes 717 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,240 it a little more clear in the code that can be done and should be done at 718 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640 code enforcement's discretion. 719 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,279 So the scope of who will be impacted by 720 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,120 this text amendment is actually quite 721 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,159 narrow. Uh I've created this just to 722 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,720 illustrate that. So in the column with 723 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,279 the blue house, if there is a violation, 724 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,919 say an over occupancy of a rental unit 725 00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:17,600 and that is resolved within two weeks 726 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,200 and there are no fines acrewed, um this 727 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,799 text amendment will not affect that 728 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,320 property owner because they were never 729 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120 at risk of having their RDL taken away. 730 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Uh and they still will not be at risk 731 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,679 for that. In the column with the green 732 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:34,559 home icon, uh that is representing 733 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,159 someone in the same situation. and 734 00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:39,360 there's a violation, they refuse to come 735 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,000 into compliance for whatever reason, uh, 736 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,600 this will not change them because under 737 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,919 the current code, they could have their 738 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:49,200 RDL denied or their renewal denied or 739 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,440 they could have their license revoked. 740 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600 And this really doesn't change that risk 741 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,039 to them. In the orange column, in the 742 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,480 column with the orange house, this is 743 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,159 actually illustrating what will change. 744 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:03,840 So property owners who had a violation 745 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640 who acrewed civil fines because they 746 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,159 took a longer time managing that or it 747 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:13,919 was severe and it merited civil fines. 748 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,919 They corrected the violation but the 749 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:17,360 fines are still outstanding and they 750 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320 refused to pay fines. That group 751 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,240 previously was not at risk of having 752 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,279 their license denied or revoked. But 753 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:26,720 under the current text amendment that 754 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,509 would now become a risk. 755 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,440 So as I mentioned, so this is 756 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,559 essentially a method of incentivizing 757 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,880 the prompt payment of fines. One other 758 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,799 benefit that this gives that might not 759 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,960 be as clear is that when a license is 760 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,519 denied or revoked, that property owner 761 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,360 is entitled to an appeal with a third 762 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,080 party arbitrator. So by adding a grounds 763 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 for denial, so they're out of compliance 764 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,000 after getting their license revoked, for 765 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,399 example, now they're out of compliance. 766 00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:58,320 And if we levied a fine that that 767 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,799 failure to pay fines will also come into 768 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,279 play potentially. And I spoke with that 769 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,720 arbitrator and they say that that would 770 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880 make this decision simpler. Not 771 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000 necessarily um that they wouldn't make 772 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760 the same decision otherwise because of 773 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,600 the non-compliance, but it just makes it 774 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,360 more obvious and simple. It strengthens 775 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,960 the city's case when it comes to that uh 776 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360 having that decision upheld. 777 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,519 So with that uh the proposal is to adopt 778 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:24,880 the ordinance as written. I'm open to 779 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,600 any questions. 780 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,399 >> Awesome. Any questions for Tanner? All 781 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:30,799 right. Thanks, Tanner. 782 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,720 >> Oh, sorry. Councelor Whitlock has a 783 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,360 question for you. 784 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,640 >> Of course. Um, one other potential 785 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,799 benefit of this is what would it also 786 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,720 potentially incentivize faster 787 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,159 compliance? 788 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:43,039 >> It could. 789 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,799 >> I think that depends on the property 790 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,960 owner and the reasons that they may be 791 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,480 taking their time coming into 792 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320 compliance. But having that RDL loss as 793 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,399 a potential um consequence of failure to 794 00:33:56,399 --> 00:33:58,320 pay fines or to bring your property into 795 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360 compliance is tough because if you have 796 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,279 your license revoked and you continue to 797 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,720 operate, then that's a whole set of 798 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,640 fines that's going to escalate that 799 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,440 balance. 800 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,639 >> Yep. And then just uh for the benefit of 801 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,720 the public in our earlier working 802 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,200 session, we talked about how if someone 803 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,480 has acred a hefty backlog of fines, the 804 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,839 city will often times work with them to 805 00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:21,440 get on a payment plan or something along 806 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,839 those lines and if they are uh in an 807 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:25,359 agreement and adhering to that 808 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:26,800 agreement, they could still get the RDL. 809 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Correct. 810 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,359 >> Correct. So yes, I should have included 811 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,159 that in there. Yeah. So, it's if they're 812 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,879 working with the city to be on a plan, 813 00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:36,720 the city is aware of their intention to 814 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:38,879 make payments or to address their fund 815 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:41,200 balance, their fine balance, then yes, 816 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,040 that would count. But this is this would 817 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520 apply in cases where despite the city's 818 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,960 best intentions, there still is a 819 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,480 refusal to pay the balance. 820 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,720 >> Perfect. Thank you. 821 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:52,960 >> All right. Thanks, Tanner. I have to 822 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,720 admit, I'm so perplexed why we have so 823 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,040 many people here just to listen. We're 824 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,720 so lucky. 825 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,960 Um, we're going to take a Oh, council 826 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,079 discussion on Well, we're going to open 827 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,920 this item up for public comment. So, is 828 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,200 there any public com Maybe this is what 829 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,119 you're here for. Any public comment on 830 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,599 this item? No. All right. Council 831 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,160 discussion. Councelor Christensen. 832 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,400 >> Yeah. Uh, again, thank you. Uh, for 833 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,960 those of you who are listening, this makes so much sense. Uh, people who 834 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,720 violate the law and aren't keeping the 835 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,079 rules. Uh, this isn't an extra penalty. 836 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,320 It just clarifies. And so I appreciate 837 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,320 you taking the the time and energy to 838 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,000 clarify this and making it simpler to 839 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640 enforce. 840 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,760 >> Any other discussion? All right, we'll 841 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,680 go to a council vote. Councelor 842 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Christensen, 843 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,960 >> yes. 844 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,320 >> Councelor Whitlock, 845 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,880 >> yes. 846 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,079 >> Councelor Bogdan, 847 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,920 >> yes. Councelor Hoben, 848 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,640 >> yes. 849 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,240 >> Councelor Whipple, 850 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:46,800 >> yes. 851 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,920 >> Councelor Garrett, 852 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,320 >> yes. 853 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,240 >> And councelor McKay, yes. That passes 854 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,720 70. And if there's no objection, we will 855 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,640 now adjourn the promises council by 856 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,200 unanimous consent.