1 00:01:59,760 --> 00:03:54,750 Mhm. 2 00:03:54,760 --> 00:05:17,270 » Mhm. 3 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:18,840 » 17, if you're ready, please go ahead 4 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:27,030 start recording. 5 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Excellent. Well, thank you for everybody 6 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,280 for showing up today. Um I'll start off 7 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:34,240 with introductions. I'm Beth Provan, I'm 8 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,840 PMAC chair. 9 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:38,919 Noel Gordon, PMAC member. 10 00:05:38,919 --> 00:05:41,200 Ashley CS, public works. 11 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,520 David Keller, PMAC. 12 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Steven Brophy, Royal Police Department. 13 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Ann Leroux-Smyth, PMAC. 14 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,960 Anna Soltys, Development Services 15 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Department. Brenda a civil engineer for 16 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,320 the city of Auburn. 17 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,840 I'm a civil engineer for the city of 18 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:54,880 Auburn. 19 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,560 And we have a small crowd today, but 20 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,360 hopefully that means we can go fast. 21 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Okay, our first action item is approval 22 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 of minutes from our last meeting. 23 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Do you have anybody who would like to 24 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:06,600 approve minutes from our meeting? So 25 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,360 moved. 26 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 I'll second. 27 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Perfect. Everybody in favor? I. I. 28 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:15,480 That's great. 29 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Okay, our first item of the agenda is 30 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,440 the bicycle friendly community survey 31 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,000 results, and Vern is going to take this 32 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,270 one. 33 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,080 Yes, good to talk to you all on this 34 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:49,390 stuff. 35 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Okay. 36 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:54,909 I'm working on what this is about. 37 00:06:54,919 --> 00:06:56,800 So we finally got our results from the 38 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,760 bicycle friendly community survey from 39 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,960 the League of American Bicyclists. 40 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:07,280 Um as you know in October of 2024, 41 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:10,640 we set a goal to be able to submit an 42 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,040 application to the League of American 43 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Bicyclists to improve and increase our 44 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,919 award 45 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:19,800 uh level 46 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 uh for a bicycle friendly community. So 47 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,360 we took about 8 months to put that 48 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,000 application together. It was 92 pages, 49 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 93, somewhere right around there. 50 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Um we submitted it in June of 2025. 51 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,200 And in December 52 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 uh well, in January we found out what 53 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,680 the results were 54 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,920 in January of this year. In that time 55 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 between we submitted 56 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,440 um, the application, um, the League of 57 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:00,030 American Bicyclists decided to, um, 58 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,400 perform a community survey in Provo. 59 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,760 And they asked us to help promote it and 60 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,920 support it, which we did. 61 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Um, and so, 62 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,960 these are the results of that uh, 63 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,240 survey. 64 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,960 So, just a little bit of history here. 65 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,720 2003, Provo City applied, but received 66 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,160 no award or recognition 67 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,600 for their active transportation, 68 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,040 specifically bicycle infrastructure 69 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,360 improvements. 70 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,440 In 2012, 71 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,560 uh, it was submitted again, and we 72 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:35,680 received a bronze award. 73 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,560 And that award was good for 4 years. We 74 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,440 submitted in 2016, 2016, 75 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,360 uh, the silver award. 76 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,400 And then we got the gold award in 2025. 77 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Again, it's good for 4 years. So, when 78 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,600 we're talking about friend, uh, 79 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,480 bicycle-friendly communities, 80 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,120 businesses, or universities, 81 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,600 we have two friendly businesses within 82 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,720 the city, 83 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,800 uh, one friendly university, which is of 84 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,400 course BYU. 85 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Uh, we do have one local League Cycling 86 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:11,480 Instructor. Overall, Utah ranks the 14th 87 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,880 friendliest state for bicycling. 88 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Can I talk about bikes? Yeah, and Provo 89 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,640 City is a bicycle-friendly one of those 90 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,320 two bicycle-friendly communities, aren't 91 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,680 they? 92 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:23,360 Um, we're a bicycle-friendly business, 93 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,160 too, as an employer. 94 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,680 >> Yeah, yeah, as a business as an 95 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,760 employer. Provo City? Yes. What does it 96 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,920 mean to be a bicycle-friendly business, 97 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,480 and what are the two businesses? I'm 98 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,880 curious. Well, one Provo City, I think, 99 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,440 and I'm not sure what the other one is, 100 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,000 to be honest. I would have to look on 101 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,320 their website and dig that up. But they 102 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,440 have to submit an application, and they 103 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,160 have to have 104 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 uh bike parking at their business. Um 105 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,720 and it's more than just bike parking, 106 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,560 and maybe even covered bike parking, if 107 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,400 I remember correctly. And there are 108 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,320 certain things that they maybe have 109 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,960 showers for their employees and uh at 110 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,600 the business, so they could commute in 111 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,200 and then freshen up before the work day. 112 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,680 Um there's all types of little nuances 113 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:08,560 that they get graded on when they submit 114 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,320 their application. Same thing with the 115 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,640 university or BYU. 116 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Uh so, the university is the same way. 117 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,520 And then, when we submitted ours, ours 118 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,200 was, like I said, a 90-plus page 119 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,080 application that was 120 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,280 daunting, um to say the least. 121 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Um 122 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,160 so, 123 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,600 when they did the survey, 124 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,840 um 125 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,440 92 communities, they surveyed 92 126 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 communities, and we were the second 127 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,000 highest 128 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,880 uh response rate of any community of 129 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,000 those So, we, you know, 130 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,560 second best. 131 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,280 Um we received 1,326 132 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,560 surveys. 133 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,640 And then, of course, Provo is one of two 134 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,000 gold communities in Utah. The other one 135 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,710 is Park City. 136 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Uh Park City, so. 137 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Um so, let's get into the basically the 138 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 survey results. Uh participants were 139 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,320 asked to select all that apply. So, we 140 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,160 had people that live here, people that 141 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,839 work here, or people that go to school 142 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:12,800 here. 143 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Uh 144 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,960 some live in the neighboring city. Uh 145 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,240 they might commute in or whatever, or 146 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,960 they just uh got wind of it, and so they 147 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,400 took the survey. 148 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,560 Uh so, you can kind of see where people 149 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:25,760 are at. 150 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Uh they ride a bike here, they're 151 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,520 actively involved in bike advocacy. 152 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,520 There's a a hundred or so that's 153 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,000 involved in 154 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Um some involved in the statewide bike 155 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,920 advocacy. 156 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,430 Um some live here seasonal or part-time. 157 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Our demographics, this is what they 158 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,240 didn't originally give me when I first 159 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,800 got the results. I had to uh 160 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,640 state the reason why I wanted this data. 161 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,840 And so I think the age cohorts were 162 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,760 really important for us to get. And then 163 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,160 also what was important to get is we 164 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,640 talk about 165 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,960 gender equality as as far as design and 166 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,880 also for disability, we wanted those 167 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,080 numbers. 168 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,120 So you can kind of see our age cohorts 169 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,000 there. Uh 31 to 45 being the largest 170 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,200 cohort. I was kind of thinking it might 171 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,280 be, you know, uh 22 to 30 but 172 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,480 it's close but it wasn't. 173 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,560 Um gender you can see pretty well split. 174 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,000 Um 175 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,320 49% uh are are the male and then then uh 176 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,080 women are make up I believe 46%. 177 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,200 Um 178 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 some chose not to answer. 179 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Or affiliated with a 180 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,760 different type. 181 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Um and then our disability um 182 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,080 I thought this was interesting about 11% 183 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,480 said yes, they have some type of 184 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,560 disability um in that respect. And so as 185 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,440 we 186 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,040 think about design of our infrastructure 187 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 for bikes and peds, uh certainly need to 188 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,950 keep that in mind. 189 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640 How often do you use a bicycle? Um at 190 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 least once a week, almost 700 191 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 respondents said at least once a week, 192 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,200 which is pretty pretty healthy. 193 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,120 Um some took the survey, over 200 of 194 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 them, "Well, I never use a bike." 195 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,839 I thought that was funny. 196 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:21,880 Um use in the last 30 days, you can see 197 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,400 that quite a few people use within the 1 198 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,240 to 7 days. It doesn't quite match, 199 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,520 right? At least once a week and then 200 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,840 once in the last 7 days it doesn't quite 201 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,000 match there, but um 202 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,640 you can see that there's a strong 203 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,000 group of people that do ride a bike. Uh 204 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,720 if you total those up, uh certainly with 205 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,870 every month they're out on the bike. 206 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,440 Primary purpose for your bicycle trips? 207 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Um some people just use it for 208 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,800 transportation. Uh others use it for 209 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,280 exercise, recreation, and work. And then 210 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 there were a few that said they do not 211 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,560 ride. 212 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,800 And I'm assuming 213 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,840 um 214 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,040 that that's 215 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,200 um 216 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,560 some of the people that do not ride that took the survey. 217 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,160 Well over 200 people. So, it's kind of 218 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,200 interesting. 219 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Welcome Counselor Whipple. Thank you. 220 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,440 I hope that wasn't a bike accident. 221 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,480 No. 222 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,720 But thank you. Okay. 223 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,390 You think there is a thing that is 224 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,800 Uh we're just going over the 225 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,160 bicycle-friendly community survey. Um 226 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 So, uh top five barriers that prevent 227 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,560 you from biking? 228 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,560 So, this was asked people who answered 229 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,080 that never to the question of how often 230 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,400 they bike. But I believe there's about a 231 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,880 little over 200 or approaching 250 that 232 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,120 said they never bike. And this is the 233 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,920 reason why. Uh one, don't have access to 234 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 bicycle. Uh live too far away from the 235 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,640 destinations that they need to go. 236 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Um have a bike in a very long time and 237 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,560 not confident in riding. 238 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,520 Uh weather's not conducive to biking and 239 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 then I'm not physically able to. 240 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,950 So, um 241 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,720 what what I saw from that 242 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,480 was a positive thing. And the reason why 243 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,280 I saw that as positive it wasn't like 244 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,920 saying there's lack of infrastructure. 245 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Okay. And we'll kind of talk a little 246 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,400 bit about that, too. 247 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Top five changes that would help 248 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,120 encourage you to bike. 249 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Uh not interested in biking at all. So, 250 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,200 now all of a sudden it shows up that we 251 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,000 want more trails and and off-street bike 252 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,040 paths. 253 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 So, that's where a lot of people feel 254 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,920 comfortable driving. 255 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 And then, I like the next three. 256 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Eliminating distracted driving. 257 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Slowing down car traffic and educating 258 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,680 drivers. All three of those to me are 259 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,800 the about the same topic, right? The 260 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,910 same issue. Falls in that same category. 261 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,480 Have you or your kids received any 262 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,080 bicycle safety training? Um this is 263 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,160 where I think 264 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,320 um our fellow nonprofit advocacy groups 265 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,080 are missing the boat. Um look how many 266 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,640 uh have no in that category in the last 267 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 5 years. Nearly 90%. We're just not 268 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,960 seeing it taught anywhere. It's not 269 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,720 being taught in the schools. It's not 270 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,160 being taught at safety fairs. It's not 271 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,520 being really promoted. Um so, I think 272 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,720 um that would be an area of emphasis if 273 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,080 I were a nonprofit and I was really a a 274 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,880 bicycle advocacy group, I'd be thinking 275 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,920 about that. I'd be looking into that. 276 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Uh training received in K-12. 277 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Uh you see what we finally did get some, 278 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,160 um but it's more than 2/3, you know, 279 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,560 basically not receiving any of that. Um 280 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,560 I like the back-to-school safety fairs 281 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,040 and when they come down and they teach 282 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,880 kids how to ride and give away free 283 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,000 helmets. They do these bike safety 284 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:09,309 fairs. I really like that. 285 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:11,079 Yeah. There's a couple schools that 286 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,640 really embrace it. Um and the highway 287 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,199 safety office is really a good 288 00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:17,079 organization that helps promote some of 289 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:18,040 that. 290 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,959 Um 291 00:17:19,959 --> 00:17:23,000 even zero fatalities 292 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,560 uh will help out 293 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,920 with 294 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,400 educating these elementary schools. 295 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Bike Utah 296 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,360 has a curriculum, too. 297 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:36,080 Yeah, Bike Utah does have some 298 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 curriculum, and that's where I think 299 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,520 you know, they can't do every single 300 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,560 school in the state, of course. They're 301 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,480 underpowered and understaffed in that 302 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,000 respect, but 303 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,160 I think uh local advocacy for educating 304 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,400 um would would it could improve there. 305 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,800 Okay. 306 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,440 Uh let's move on to the next one. Are 307 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,880 bike paths or bike lanes available 308 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,720 within a quarter mile of where you live? 309 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,640 So, almost 2/3 have said, "Yes, there 310 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,520 are bike paths or paths away from the 311 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,000 road." But then, if you go to the bike 312 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,120 lanes, 313 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,840 look at that, 90% 314 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,920 live within a quarter of a mile of 315 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,840 on-street bike lane. 316 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,400 So, that is great, but I really like to 317 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:29,160 see how we can improve some of the bike paths away from the road, too, 318 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,760 or 319 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,600 do we need to convert some of these to 320 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 protected bike lanes so they feel more 321 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 comfortable in that respect? 322 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,680 How satisfied are you with how this 323 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,960 community is designed for making bike 324 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,720 riding safe? 325 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Some were very satisfied, some were 326 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,880 somewhat satisfied. And then, if you 327 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,640 take a look at neither satisfied or 328 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,240 dissatisfied, 329 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,840 um all the way down to very 330 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,560 dissatisfied, you'll see that all those 331 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,280 add up to less than the amount that's 332 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,040 happy or somewhat satisfied. 333 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:03,920 So, 334 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760 I I take that as as kind of a positive 335 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,040 thing, but also we need to continue to 336 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,040 um 337 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,000 implement our plans and build more 338 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,830 infrastructure. 339 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Is it safe or dangerous to ride in a 340 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,920 bicycle in your neighborhood? Some 341 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,360 people think that it's fun. 342 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:23,960 When you give someone the middle 343 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,080 opportunity, it depends instead of 344 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,320 forcing them to say yes or no, 345 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,120 you're going to get a lot of that it it 346 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,200 depends type thing and that's what we 347 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,790 see here. 348 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720 Always. Yeah. 349 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,160 No, it depends. Yeah. 350 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,160 You can always think of a situation that 351 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 you go either way. Yeah. Yeah, that's 352 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,240 funny. 353 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Top reasons you feel it is dangerous to 354 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,280 ride a bicycle in your neighborhood. I 355 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,120 think these are important to realize 356 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:54,400 again that this centers around a little 357 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,480 bit of our traffic. Only one really says 358 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,720 too few bike lanes or bike paths. The 359 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,040 other four, in my opinion, kind of 360 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,400 relate to us as motorists, 361 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 distracted drivers or riders. So, 362 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 there's there's distracted bicyclists 363 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,120 out there, too. I'm going to say I'd 364 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:16,120 really be interested to see this broken 365 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,560 down between cuz they said fast-moving 366 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,240 traffic. 367 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,680 I would really be interested to see this 368 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,120 broken down 369 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:25,520 are they doing it from a person who's on 370 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,400 a pedal manpower bike or are they doing 371 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,160 it from a perspective of a person on an 372 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,120 e-bike? Yeah. And what is the breakdown 373 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,040 of oh, there's fast-moving traffic. Are 374 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,320 you talking about the cars? Are you 375 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,400 talking about e-bikes and all of the 376 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,040 electric stuff that's out there now that 377 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,640 are using the bike lanes along with 378 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,600 people who pedal bikes. I I would tend 379 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,320 to believe that this relates more to the 380 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,320 fast-moving vehicular traffic and the 381 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,840 only reason I say that is because this 382 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,040 is not a pedestrian survey. 383 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,920 I was If this was a pedestrian survey, 384 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,600 we got people that walk on our trails 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,960 all the time and then when we have 386 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,680 bicyclists or the the bicyclists with electric 387 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,440 scooters going really fast. It's It's 388 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,240 not very comfortable. 389 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,640 >> The only reason I asked that is because 390 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,280 distracted 391 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,880 drivers/riders implies that it's more 392 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,080 than just right. There is. Yeah, and it 393 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,440 could be motorcyclists, too. 394 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,600 You know. 395 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Um 396 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,520 A motorcyclist can scare the heck out of 397 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,160 someone. 398 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,440 Just Just by Yeah, revving it up. At 399 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,840 least he can 400 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,160 Now And now And that's the whole point. 401 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Do you know why motorcyclists do that, 402 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,200 right? So, you hear them that they're 403 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,280 there. They want their presence to be 404 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,120 known, so they don't 405 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,480 get hit. Um that's why a lot of them do 406 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,360 it. 407 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,440 Hi, Steve. Yep. Okay. It's also a matter 408 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,920 of pride. 409 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,990 Steve and I both ride motorcycles, so 410 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,640 I just want you guys to know how cool I 411 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,600 am. 412 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,960 If you spend $2,000 on those 413 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,600 well-cared-for 414 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,120 this thing 415 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,160 >> Noise goes along with that, too. I see 416 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,520 pedestrians. Most people see 417 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,080 pedestrians. I see willing observers of 418 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,070 my awesomeness. 419 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,560 We'll get We'll get that in a minute. 420 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,640 You're very proud of the new Harley 421 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,800 pipes they've converted on their bikes, 422 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,150 right? Or the lack thereof. 423 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Okay, top three recommendations to 424 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 become more bicycle friendly. More 425 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,760 protected or separated bike 426 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,240 infrastructure. 427 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,440 Better driver behavior through education 428 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600 and enforcement. And then finally, a 429 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560 connected continuous bike route network. 430 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,920 And a connected continuous bike network 431 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,600 is a reflection on the region, not 432 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,560 necessarily just Provo by itself. So, 433 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,640 for me, it's the Provo-Orem region, 434 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,320 although we're doing a study right now 435 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,400 to connect Springville, and we're going 436 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800 to be doing another study, uh it sounds 437 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,880 like, with the Lake Authority and MAG to 438 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,280 look at the extension of the lake and 439 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,680 Utah County to the Lake Utah going south 440 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,920 through Springville and Spanish Fork. 441 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Top three hazards or barriers that 442 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,600 should be addressed immediately. 443 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,720 So this is education of drivers. There's This is a common theme 444 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,240 throughout this survey. is that 445 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,600 bicyclists are feeling unsafe because of 446 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,440 the distracted driving 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 uh behavior. So 448 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,960 um unprotected or missing bike 449 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280 infrastructure. That's why I like to get 450 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,120 those connected. Um 451 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:41,680 Protected is another story. Uh there's 452 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520 the protected bike lanes that we have on 453 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,760 Cougar 454 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,960 are people like them and people hate 455 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,360 them. There's not really anybody in 456 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,360 between. Uh even bicyclists themselves 457 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,720 will tell me, "I don't like it." or "I 458 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,320 love it." 459 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,280 Even them themselves are are saying, 460 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760 "Hey, this is as controversial as a a 461 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,000 driver." 462 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,640 Then obstructions and maintenance and I think that's a common theme with 463 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,600 rocks and tires and just We see it all 464 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,680 over the interstate and we do a better 465 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240 job with the maintenance and getting rid 466 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240 of some of the obstructions. 467 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,680 Top three community efforts that are 468 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,680 deserving of praise. 469 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Uh the bike trails and off-street. I 470 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,520 mean, people love the Provo River Trail. 471 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,360 It's a gem. We're happy to have it. I 472 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,600 wish we had more of it along the river, 473 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,360 but that's what we have. 474 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,200 Bike lanes and protected infrastructure 475 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,360 like Cougar Boulevard. Again, this is 476 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,320 coming from the the people that took the 477 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,600 survey and then bike walk Provo and 478 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,480 community programs. And then we love our 479 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,520 advocacy groups because they help 480 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,000 fulfill needs that 481 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,360 as a city we don't fulfill, right? Uh 482 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,560 they help with uh Uh, I and and we got 483 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,520 to continue to see our Provo Bike Club get up and running 484 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,000 again 485 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480 because they do things that help us as a 486 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,880 community 487 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,520 uh, with giving away bikes, um, 488 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,680 teaching how to repair bikes, teaching 489 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,360 bike safety, 490 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,960 um, and quite frankly employing a few 491 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,320 people, too. 492 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,600 So, there are some positive things there 493 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,800 that we need to make sure that that particular uh, advocacy group 494 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160 continues forward. 495 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760 Uh, top three other comments and 496 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,000 feedback, feeling unsafe due to driver 497 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,400 behavior. I think we know that that's a 498 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,960 pretty common theme. Uh, strong divide 499 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,840 between bike support and car first 500 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,760 perspectives. And that is not a Provo or 501 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 a Utah thing. That is a nationwide 502 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,360 thing. And the upcoming transportation 503 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,680 bill, 504 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,950 um, 505 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,160 they're kind of inhibit all funding for 506 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,520 bicyclists and active transportation in 507 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,640 that bill. That would be wrong and that 508 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,760 would set us back. 509 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,120 >> What bill? 510 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,720 So, every five or six years the 511 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000 transportation surface bill comes along, 512 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,440 surface transportation bill comes along. 513 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,160 At the federal level? At the federal 514 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120 level. And it will come out probably in 515 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,720 September-October time frame of this 516 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,720 year. 517 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,960 And there are 518 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,080 reports that they are going to be 519 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,040 roadway centric instead of 520 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600 uh, what we've seen in the past couple 521 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,320 of bills where we have support for both 522 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,920 bicycle infrastructure and pedestrian 523 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560 infrastructure. 524 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,320 And then finally, lack of education 525 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000 enforcement 526 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,240 uh, surrounding e-bikes and scooters. 527 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920 Uh, this committee is no stranger to 528 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,000 that conversation. 529 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,640 Right? 530 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,880 Okay. 531 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Um, recommendations to go from a gold, 532 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,400 which again only two communities in the 533 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,440 state of Utah are gold, Park City and 534 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Provo. 535 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,040 And 536 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,440 um if we want to go to 537 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,840 five. 538 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Um these are some of the recommendations 539 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,200 and they all 540 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,880 have 541 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,040 budgetary constraints for the most part. 542 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,400 And and you know, I can argue a couple 543 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440 of those we need to do. 544 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Um and a couple of those I can argue 545 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,400 we're doing great by this being a shared 546 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160 responsibility across 547 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,280 departments of the city as opposed to 548 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760 one full-time paid bicycle program 549 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,000 manager. 550 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,040 So, 551 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,000 um 552 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,240 that's some of the recommendations they 553 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,360 gave us. 554 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,600 And it's in our report card that they 555 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,480 give us as feedback. 556 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,880 Overall, I'm really happy and excited 557 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,360 that we went from silver to gold. I 558 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:50,840 think it's a real feather in the cap of 559 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,640 Provo City. 560 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Just so you know, uh since that time 561 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,360 I've been in 562 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,240 asked to participate in two webinars 563 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,040 uh because we went from silver to gold, 564 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,800 which I have done. 565 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,560 And next week I 20 people were invited 566 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,000 uh to a international symposium being 567 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,560 held in Detroit next Wednesday and 568 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,360 Thursday. 20 people across the country 569 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,760 that deal with transportation mobility 570 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,400 in their communities. 571 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,960 And I was selected as one of those. I 572 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,920 didn't put in for it, but we got 573 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,840 selected. Um 574 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 and it's because of all the things that 575 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,560 we have here. 576 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,960 People don't realize we have a 577 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,720 world-class 578 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,200 rail system. 579 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960 Both on the freight side, but more 580 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360 importantly on the commuter rail side, 581 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,760 we have a world-class BRT system. Before 582 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,960 COVID, it was the second highest 583 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000 ridership in the country. 584 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Um only Portland was beating this out. 585 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Um, and then we have done so well with 586 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,760 our uh bike and active transportation uh 587 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,320 infrastructure that we put forth and 588 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,720 have built. 589 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160 And so, not to mention some of the 590 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000 freight and some of that other stuff 591 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,200 that um 592 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,640 we have nationally recognized for. 593 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,920 You have a great transportation system, 594 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,000 you're going to have a great economy. 595 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360 And just yesterday I heard that we were 596 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,120 that for the 19th year in a row, Utah 597 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,160 has the best economic outlook of any 598 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,760 state in the country. 599 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Transportation has a lot to do with 600 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,160 that. 601 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520 Okay, comments, questions, suggestions. 602 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480 Uh I presented this in front of T-MAC. 603 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880 You guys are the first ones to see it. 604 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Uh it goes to City Council work session 605 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800 if they want it. I submitted I think I 606 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,440 submitted it today. 607 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Um 608 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640 and then it will go to uh I'm presenting 609 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920 it in front of Bike Walk on May 7th 610 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,440 uh at their 611 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880 uh meeting at their monthly coordination 612 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200 meeting. 613 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Uh I'm going to make a comment but I'm 614 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,280 going to make a comment probably more 615 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,080 towards my neighborhood 616 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280 versus T-MAC road. 617 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Uh when we were talking about the 618 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Southwest Provo plan, we talked about 619 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,360 integrating trails inside communities in 620 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040 the Southwest and that was kind of 621 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,760 knocked down, unfortunately, but I think 622 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920 it's going to be up to the council 623 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,040 whether they want to change policies and 624 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,840 developments, building developments and 625 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360 building out especially in the area like 626 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Southwest Provo to be able to add these 627 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,880 bike lanes and bike friendly communities 628 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,600 that would be separated from the main 629 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080 traffic lanes and be able to up that 630 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680 active transportation in that area. 631 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Yeah, and I can let you know in our 632 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,160 review 633 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,280 um 634 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800 uh both Development Services and Public 635 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,520 works get together every Monday and 636 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,760 Wednesday and we review projects. 637 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,240 There's a subdivision coming in. 638 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,360 And 639 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,520 first thing we said, right? Hey, that's 640 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000 a that's a waterway and you need to 641 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,240 develop a bike trail along that trail 642 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,680 along that waterway. 643 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,920 So 644 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,360 I'm happy to hear that actually. Not 645 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360 only is staff very cognizant of that, 646 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,720 but so is the planning commission and 647 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,280 city council. 648 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,960 I've seen nothing but Hey, 649 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,440 we're you know, if you're going to do 650 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,440 this, you need to add that. So 651 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,840 I've just been impressed with the planning commission and city council 652 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,800 being very aware of these types of 653 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,000 developments. 654 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,360 And getting them off of just the 655 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,680 collectors, right? Having the 656 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,270 neighborhood bike ways. 657 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,880 Thoughts? 658 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,200 And the council we got a couple council 659 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,030 members here, T-Mac members. 660 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Again, we were the second best in the 661 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,960 country for having the most responses 662 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160 and I think that said a lot of what 663 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,680 Joseph's not here today, but Joseph and 664 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320 I immediately ordered 40 signs. We got 665 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,080 the council, we got the mayor's office, 666 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,200 we got everybody tweeting it out or 667 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,000 posting it on social media and then we 668 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440 went out along the trail, we placed I 669 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,960 think we placed 40 or 50 uh 670 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,760 you know, garage sale political signs 671 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,800 all over along the trails, BYU campus. 672 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,400 By the way, we could only locate about 673 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,240 25 of them when we went to pick them up 674 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,560 a year month later. 675 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Um 676 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120 So really really happy about that and I 677 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,760 think that says a lot of Provo 678 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,240 residents who who want to be heard and they certainly have been with that 679 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,840 survey. Were they all Provo residents? 680 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Did that controlled No. They were all 681 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,440 Provo residents. In fact 682 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,800 >> it more than once? 683 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,760 Um 684 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560 I don't think they were allowed to do it 685 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,880 more than once. I can't remember, but 686 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,880 we'll go back to 687 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,880 the survey itself. 688 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Uh 689 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Where is that? 690 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Here, let me go further back. 691 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,760 That was that it right there? 692 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Uh participants were asked to select all 693 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800 that apply, and you can see that there 694 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,360 were some that live in a neighboring 695 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,600 city. 696 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,320 Uh some work or go to school here. 697 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,160 Oh 698 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,910 there you 699 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,920 So, if you think this is valuable, we 700 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960 just put it down for a work session for 701 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320 5-10 minute presentation to you 702 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:19,190 and the rest of members. 703 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680 And that's like 704 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Oh, you can get your bike back through 705 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960 the portal. So, that's what we tried to 706 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,520 explain to you all. 707 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,360 We said we have the mandatory bike 708 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,680 registration. In fact, it's not 709 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,480 mandatory, is it? It's voluntary. 710 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,320 It is mandatory. 711 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720 >> It is mandatory. So, we have to 712 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920 So, that allows the police officers to 713 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,560 return a stolen bike. Yeah, it really 714 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,800 helps. 715 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Probably one of our biggest 716 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520 advocacies as far as getting the stolen 717 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800 bikes back is that bike registration. 718 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,520 And I think we need to say that. I 719 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040 thought we did in the application. 720 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,080 >> No, like they got to come down to the 721 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,440 police department anymore. You literally 722 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,600 just submit it online. You guys believe 723 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,560 that people ride bikes to work 724 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480 actually need to use them 725 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,240 Very easy to get your bike registered. 726 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,040 It's not like it's a 727 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Why didn't you 728 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,840 >> register in a car? 729 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560 No, I have to register my bike because 730 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,360 if they get my bike stolen, your odds of 731 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,120 getting it back are much, much higher if 732 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,240 it's been registered. And how much does 733 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:19,280 it cost? Is it free? Free. It's free. 734 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,399 >> It's free. As long as it says free, we 735 00:34:21,399 --> 00:34:23,320 should be able to make that argument, 736 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,760 counselor. 737 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480 Okay? And I think It used to be a 738 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,159 dollar. Bike walking encourages people 739 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,480 to do that. So, we just need to say 740 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,590 education back to education. 741 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,040 Okay, we showed that my chart again and 742 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,879 showed why people are bicycling. I 743 00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:44,720 thought it said 0% for work. 744 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:45,879 For what? 745 00:34:45,879 --> 00:34:47,720 Uh, is that before this one? Was that 746 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:52,310 one I think right? 747 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,800 Uh, 748 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,679 which chart? 749 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,880 The pie chart? And 750 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,920 0% for work, is that legit? 751 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,840 Transportation and recreation. I think 752 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,240 they're probably included that 753 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,000 transportation. So, that would be a 754 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,200 survey question. 755 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,480 >> Speaking like, are you a bike cop? 756 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,840 After you ride a bicycle to work? Well, 757 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,360 I think we we didn't know if they were 758 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,640 driving to work. 759 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,160 It just seems I understand like like in New York, right? They use 760 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,280 bicyclists to deliver packages and stuff 761 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,360 like that. 762 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,160 Somebody that rides a bike for their 763 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,240 job. Yeah, I I think it's 764 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,200 we don't have too many 765 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,920 people delivering packages in New York. 766 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000 I know I see a lot of Door Dashers on 767 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,070 bikes. 768 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:45,870 In higher density cities, they're there. 769 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040 Anything else anybody wanted to see? And 770 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,800 is this correct? I just did, of course, 771 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,600 Google Gemini is not the source of all 772 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000 truth as I've discovered, but there are 773 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,440 no platinum level bicycle communities in 774 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,320 Utah. There's only three country wide is 775 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560 what it says. Yes. That is That is 776 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000 correct. Fort Collins became a platinum 777 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,840 level community 778 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,480 this year, this go around with us, and 779 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,600 Boulder lost their platinum community 780 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,760 because they didn't stay up and submit. 781 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,640 They didn't resubmit. Oh. And uh They 782 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,840 probably haven't degraded their 783 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,200 services. They just didn't do 784 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,960 That is correct. And that's kind of a challenge, you know, 785 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,800 with this cuz it does take a 786 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,920 considerable effort to put forth. That That's money, right? I mean, that's 787 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,720 Yeah. Yeah, it's too bad you can't just 788 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,280 say, "We're still here." and like skip 789 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,240 the paperwork. I know. 790 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,280 Put it this way. Um 791 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,840 with the amount of work that we put 792 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,880 forth and the amount of 793 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,920 funding that we were able to prove that 794 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960 we put forth on active transportation 795 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,720 over the last 5 years, 796 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,120 if we were to receive a silver status 797 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,040 award, 798 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,280 I would have recommended that we're done 799 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,360 with the League of American Bicyclists. 800 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,440 Um just because if you can't get it 801 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,760 investing 21 million over the over the 802 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160 last 5 years, how do you get it, right? 803 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,520 And so, um but they came through. And 804 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,120 I'm all supportive. Like I said, they've 805 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,440 asked me to participate in a couple 806 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,360 webinars now, and I'm totally 807 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,360 supportive, and their colleagues are very professional, 808 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,040 and um in fact, 809 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,840 I've been asked now to help review other 810 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000 people's uh 811 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,560 applications, 812 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880 um and be able to provide feedback. And 813 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,800 one of the things I'm going to provide feedback is those two items that 814 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,920 we just talked about. One is the bike 815 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,960 registration, and the other one is one 816 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,840 full-time person. Cuz I honestly don't 817 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880 believe that one full-time program 818 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,760 manager is going to be able to do all 819 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,800 that all the departments participate in 820 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:02,830 and and bicycle infrastructure. 821 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,320 I'm going to this. 822 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,800 Yeah. 823 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,320 So, I I I want to be Yeah, this would be 824 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,560 my first year I get to review. It's such 825 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040 a pain that no one can review additional 826 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440 places that would apply 827 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960 if it wasn't so lengthy. Yeah, I think 828 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,040 it is a little 829 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,960 intimidating and maybe even cost 830 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,040 prohibitive from other cities. I was 831 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 telling this to a consultant, 832 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,480 uh friend of mine, and she said, "Bern, 833 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,480 you know that's what we're here for, 834 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,560 right?" 835 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760 I said, "I know, but 836 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,840 I didn't want to come in and spend money 837 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,760 right away on something I thought we 838 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400 could do in-house. 839 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200 Maybe next time in 4 years it might be 840 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520 something, but now that we've got most 841 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,000 of the application filled out 842 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,840 and the way it is, I think it'll be 843 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,920 easier next time. We know where to 844 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,800 collect the data, we know how to obtain 845 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,960 the data, so I think in-house will be 846 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,240 the way to go next time. It'll be a 847 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,190 little easier for us. 848 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,840 Okay. 849 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,960 >> It says here, of course, once again, 850 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,440 this is Google Gemini, so but this says 851 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600 that Provo, Park City, and Salt Lake are 852 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,280 all gold. Is Salt Lake not? 853 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,400 >> not. 854 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,200 There's an error. Not gold. Moab and 855 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,680 Cottonwood Heights, silver. Does that 856 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,080 sound right? 857 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,160 >> Uh yeah, that's probably that's probably 858 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,640 right. Yep. 859 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,320 And then Davis, California, Fort 860 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Collins, Colorado, Madison, Wisconsin. 861 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,320 They say Provo's a recent upgrade to 862 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,200 gold was fueled by an investment of 863 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,400 approximately $21 million in bike 864 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,680 infrastructure since 2020 with another 865 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,400 46 million 866 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,280 projected over the next 5 years. Given 867 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,320 that trajectory, it is the most likely 868 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,160 candidate to eventually reach platinum 869 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520 in the state. I cannot believe that 870 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,590 something is that accurate on that AI. 871 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,440 That was all accurate. 872 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,880 I don't like Gemini challenging you to 873 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,800 reach platinum. 874 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,200 What it sounds like. I didn't I didn't 875 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,910 say it was Provo, you know. That's that's spot on. Okay. Okay. 876 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,120 Awesome. Well, thank you so much. 877 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,880 I appreciate that. 878 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,360 Um we do have one item of business that 879 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,680 I kind of 880 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,400 brushed over real quick. Uh our June 881 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,640 meeting, because it's on June 18th, 882 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,760 and there are several members that are 883 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,320 not going to be able to. 884 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,640 Uh we would want to to move that one 885 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:29,030 week earlier to June 11th. 886 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,600 Just say yes, that's a good thing. I'm 887 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,520 very happy. 888 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,720 It's June 11th. And was there a reason 889 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,200 we didn't also explore June 25th? 890 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,080 I would like not cuz that is 891 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,600 5 days before my daughter's wedding. 892 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,560 Okay, I understand. It is my June 11th 893 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080 sounds better. I think June 11th is 7 894 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,840 days before my son's wedding. Well, I 895 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120 will not be I will not be as involved as 896 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,520 you were as a mom. I get that. 897 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,160 You know, fewer than Anybody else got 898 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,480 children Apparently this is the year for 899 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,760 marriage. The 25th will be done. 900 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,280 Patrice, you got children of marrying 901 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,760 age, don't you? 902 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Yes. 903 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400 You got 7 days, 5 days. I guess 904 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,320 Okay. And then that's it. 905 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,520 That work for everybody? June 11th? June 906 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,400 11th. Perfect. Okay, let's I we do we 907 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,320 have to say we move to 908 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,880 Is this an approval thing or just a 909 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,760 It's not an action item. 910 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160 It's an action item. Um if you wanted 911 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,560 to, you could have someone make a 912 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560 motion, but I think it's just us 913 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,520 advertising it correctly. 914 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680 So, June 11th it will be. 915 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040 Okay. We're going to go through this 916 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,160 next item pretty quick. Uh East-West 917 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,480 connectivity discussion, this is going 918 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,360 to be our big major 919 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,280 kind of thing for the year. Uh I've 920 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,480 already asked Burn to pull some numbers 921 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,120 for the next uh next meeting. We're 922 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,600 going to be pulling a lot of numbers 923 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,280 about road capacity, differences between 924 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,360 arterial connectors, all of that stuff 925 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120 to kind of get an idea of what our roads 926 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880 are in the city and what the capacity 927 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,520 they're at right now. Is there anybody 928 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,560 who has something a burning desire for 929 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,630 information that maybe Burn can provide? 930 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,400 And we're And this is regards to we're 931 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,080 talking from the lake to the mountains 932 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160 is what we're we're looking at the whole 933 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:24,310 spectrum of East-West connectivity. 934 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,440 What she has asked me to put together, 935 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960 just so you're aware, will go over the 936 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,920 functional classification of our street 937 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,680 system. So, we'll talk about locals, 938 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,640 collectors, and arterials. 939 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,240 Uh with that, we'll talk about uh 940 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:40,120 the cross sections that correspond 941 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,160 equally to the local collectors and 942 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,240 arterials if they were being built 943 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,360 today. 944 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,280 Standards have changed since 1849. 945 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,440 Um 946 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,920 and then 947 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,080 we will look at some volumes of our 948 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,680 East-West connections, a few 949 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400 north-south, but mostly East-West. And 950 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,520 we'll look at volume to capacity ratios. 951 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,000 So, 952 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480 um it's important to maybe look at And 953 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,240 these will be pre-numbers prior to the 954 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,480 820 North Bridge and 820 North closing. 955 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,920 So, we'll have some pretty good numbers 956 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,680 from 2023. 957 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,680 Um 958 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,400 and then we'll talk about that capacity. 959 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440 And you guys can kind of look at that 960 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,000 and and 961 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,280 really start to say, "Well, jeez, if 962 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160 we're at this much percentage capacity 963 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040 already on the roadways, where's our 964 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200 next East-West connectivity?" 965 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,280 We all know the barriers, right? We have 966 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,480 the river, we have I-15, we have the 967 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:40,670 railroad tracks, just to name a few. 968 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,840 I I've kind of also asked him to look at 969 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,960 how easy it is to get to university and 970 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,680 then the time from university to 971 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,280 freeways and our regional 972 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,480 transportation hubs and 973 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,000 universities is one of our major hubs, 974 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,640 also. So, 975 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,880 we can get to university, how does how 976 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,440 long does it take to get from university 977 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,880 to the freeway? 978 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,640 And we have major routes 979 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000 of commuting and everything that affects 980 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,280 our 981 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,800 people coming in and 982 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,840 Yeah, University Avenue, sorry. Not Not 983 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,760 Parkway. Oh, I was going to make you say 984 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,160 G University, like Oh, I hear what 985 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,200 you're saying. 986 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,000 Well, yeah, we all know BYU is a little 987 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,200 chunk that you have to get around. 988 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,750 Right. 989 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,640 Any other 990 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,760 information you guys might want to look 991 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,350 at? 992 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,000 I think we've got some partial 993 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,640 connectors, right? Like it's a good 994 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,880 east-west if you're east of University 995 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400 or if you're west of University, but 996 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,480 those two chunks don't necessarily look 997 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,760 continuous. 998 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,080 We've got much 999 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160 far fewer continuous ones that go all 1000 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,120 the way across. 1001 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,080 Yeah, and we got a couple that are just 1002 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,560 two blocks away for maybe I mean 1003 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,240 a a full activity. 1004 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,160 So, we'll we'll we can talk about that. 1005 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640 We'll show the plan and we'll just kind 1006 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,480 of 1007 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,720 talk about 1008 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:05,440 uh 1009 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,880 two connections that we do have planned 1010 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680 uh to make and then if the council came 1011 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200 across, you know, 100 million, what 1012 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,720 other connections we wanted to do and so 1013 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,880 we'll talk about the 920 overpass to 1014 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,760 uh State Street uh 1015 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,680 over the railroad crossing. 1016 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,880 So, we'll talk about a couple fun 1017 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,760 things. 1018 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,040 I know something that citizens of talk 1019 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,440 to me about on the west side is um 1020 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,360 getting an ambulance getting to the 1021 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,000 hospital on the west side. 1022 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,200 You know, what happens if you run into 1023 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,800 the train and how much longer it takes 1024 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,280 and how much longer it would be if there 1025 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,440 was better connectivity there, if we 1026 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,720 could go go over the tracks under the 1027 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,880 tracks so you don't run into the tracks. 1028 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,160 I don't know, that's been a That's 1029 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160 something I didn't think about until 1030 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,720 they talked to me about it, but they're worried about getting out if 1031 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,440 there was some 1032 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,200 disaster 1033 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,840 get the higher land and ambulance trips. 1034 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,040 And 1035 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,760 I was talking to a gentleman last week 1036 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,680 um talking about the west side, 1037 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640 particularly the southwest side. And how 1038 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,920 they were saying they just don't have a 1039 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960 lot of transportation options and 1040 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,520 I've been here a long time, so I 1041 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,000 immediately said you have two new ones 1042 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,360 that you didn't have 10 years ago. 1043 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,200 Okay? That is the connection I-15 at 1044 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,120 Lake View Parkway. That wasn't here 10 1045 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,400 years ago. 1046 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,920 And 500 West underneath the tracks or 1047 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,800 underneath I-15 wasn't here uh 1048 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360 10 years ago, right? Uh we have those on 1049 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,040 our plan. And so now instead of just 1050 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,920 having them have to either go up to 920 1051 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,200 or Center Street, now they got 5th West 1052 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,800 and Lake View Parkway. So there's four 1053 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,720 that Southwest Pro has connection to. 1054 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:50,760 But 1055 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,160 Brian, we have to evacuate somehow 1056 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,280 you know, 30,000 people on the west 1057 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,430 side, how would it do that? 1058 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,960 Oh, excellent. 1059 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,400 Brian's going to pull numbers for us the 1060 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,920 next time we will On another point, I 1061 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,960 also know that um 1062 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,880 Polynesian is willing to do a punch 1063 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,880 through. And that's one of the two that 1064 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,480 we're going to show next week or next 1065 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,360 month. 1066 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,320 If you would have had it on the 25th, 1067 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,840 that would have given me more time to 1068 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,430 prepare, but you got me on the 11th, so. 1069 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,160 Okay. 1070 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,360 any other comments, questions, 1071 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,640 concerns about about East West 1072 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,760 connectivity. I'm interested to know 1073 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,000 that Google Gemini thinks that the TMA 1074 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,120 is currently conducting a data-driven 1075 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,240 East-West connectivity study with key 1076 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,800 areas of focus including the freeway as 1077 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,840 a barrier, bench to freeway connections, 1078 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,320 and the 820 North Corridor project. Is 1079 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,760 it Is it listening to us? No, I'm asking 1080 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,920 questions, but I'm kind of like oh, I 1081 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,560 did not know this. 1082 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:59,630 Anyway, there you 1083 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,120 So Is that Microsoft's one or No, no, it's Google Gemini. Google Gemini. 1084 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,240 Yeah. I I I actually just asked it how 1085 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,800 well does the Provo um 1086 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,160 transportation master plan Just prove 1087 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,400 follow FHWA and other national 1088 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,520 guidelines for spacing of facilities. 1089 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,880 So, What did it say about that? Uh it 1090 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,560 says we are lacking in east-west 1091 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,480 connectivity. 1092 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,880 That's half the discussion, right? And 1093 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,640 the three principal things that are 1094 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,800 problems are the I-15 Freeway, the Union 1095 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440 Pacific FrontRunner Rail Corridor, and 1096 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,640 Provo River and topography. I I'm 1097 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,320 serious. That thing is listening to us. 1098 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,680 It's not. Right now. 1099 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,960 >> But I am concerned that it thinks C-MAC 1100 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,200 is doing this so much better. 1101 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,840 So, there you go. 1102 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,200 I have a buddy. 1103 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,560 Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. 1104 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,640 I'll have to look at Gemini. 1105 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,920 Okay. Our last item on the agenda is 1106 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,240 engineering projects update. 1107 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,880 Oh, I should be 1108 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,920 Yeah, engineering project updates. I 1109 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,960 don't have a official presentation that 1110 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,520 uh 1111 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,840 that I'm going to pull up, but I'm what 1112 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,280 I'm going to do is In fact, I should go 1113 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520 Two weeks ago, I presented I was invited 1114 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,040 as a guest speaker uh for one of the 1115 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,480 classes of Professor McFarland who's out 1116 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,160 of country. 1117 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,080 Um I presented to a group of 45-50 1118 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,360 students. The presentation was well 1119 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,480 received. The city was 1120 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,560 uh appreciated and applauded for all the 1121 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,960 hard work we do, specifically targeting 1122 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,960 transportation um areas, active 1123 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,560 transportation to to be specific. 1124 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,960 Uh the citizens were pretty short on 1125 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,360 other methods that we look as city 1126 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,560 officials, such as CDBG grants, MAG 1127 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200 grants, and UDOT grants, and other state 1128 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,280 and federal grants that we apply for to 1129 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,120 get some of these uh gaps or 1130 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,360 safety active transportation issues uh 1131 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920 resolved in the quickest manner. So, uh 1132 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,120 very I would say it was uh, a very 1133 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,640 engaging class and um, 1134 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000 uh, very well received on their end um, 1135 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000 the presentation that I um, that I gave. 1136 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,880 Uh, for this meeting, the projects that 1137 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,080 I want to kind of go over um, we did 1138 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,040 started our crack seal project about 3 1139 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,040 weeks ago. The project is going well um, 1140 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,840 it is a little bit on the slower side. 1141 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,280 The weather has a lot to do with it. 1142 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,800 Whenever we have rain and and cold 1143 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,760 weather, 1144 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,320 those are the days that um, our 1145 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,160 contractor, they do not work. Uh, but 1146 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200 overall, they're targeting two areas, 1147 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,160 the Grandview area as well as the South 1148 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,000 State Street by California Avenue, 1149 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480 Nevada Avenue, those areas. 1150 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600 Um, no major issues or complaints, so 1151 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,000 things are going well um, 1152 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,880 our 9th East 9th South sidewalk project, 1153 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,360 um, that project is about to start on 1154 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,360 April 20th. 1155 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560 Uh, we did notify residents. Our 1156 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,840 contractor's on board. Uh, we're ready 1157 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,880 to go. Um, 1158 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,800 get that project started. 1159 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040 Uh, 5th North Freedom Boulevard, the 1160 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,200 signal project, we're going to be 1161 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,680 redoing the signal at that location. 1162 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,800 We're also going to be implementing an 1163 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,800 innovation grant that I received last 1164 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,840 year. 1165 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,680 Uh, we're going to be implementing that 1166 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,120 also as part of this project and our 1167 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,400 contractor is 1168 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,320 already on board. We're going to start 1169 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,480 that project sometime the month of June 1170 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,440 and July. Reason being, there's a 1171 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,200 3-month 1172 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,200 backlog of signal equipment. So, I 1173 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,400 placed my signal order 1174 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520 to state furnished materials and they 1175 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,960 told me we're going to wait 3 months. 1176 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,000 So, once we have our equipment, we can 1177 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,120 get started on that project. 1178 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,480 Um, our two CDBG projects, we had our, 1179 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,920 in fact, we had our pre-construction 1180 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,040 today, this morning and we're going to 1181 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,320 start those two projects on April 27th. 1182 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,560 There's two neighborhoods we're going to 1183 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,240 be targeting, Franklin neighborhood, 1184 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,480 we're doing about 32 ADA ramps in 1185 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,080 Franklin neighborhood. 1186 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,600 And then we're going to go to Foothill 1187 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,760 neighborhood where we're going to do Oh, 1188 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,320 I can't even remember a whole bunch of 1189 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,720 more ADA ramps, sidewalks, 1190 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,240 um and and some driveways and things of 1191 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:57,560 that nature. 1192 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,240 Um our goal is to to bring those 1193 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,600 sidewalks and ADA ramps to compliancy. 1194 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,640 So, 1195 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,320 we're looking forward 1196 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,880 >> What's the situation that we do 1197 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,040 driveway? 1198 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,720 That if you want to get your driveway 1199 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,520 done, is it 1200 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:10,880 question? 1201 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,880 >> No, we're when when when we have to pay 1202 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,120 for a driveway. So, sometimes the access 1203 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,560 if we're messing around converting uh 1204 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,040 curb and gutter to uh standard curb and 1205 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,320 gutters to the deep trough, you have to 1206 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,160 chase that a little bit and so you have 1207 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,120 to relay that the concrete between the 1208 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,400 street and the sidewalk if there's a 1209 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,200 park strip. And if it's monolithic or 1210 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,720 combination where the curb and gutter's 1211 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:40,640 right next to the street, and uh we have 1212 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,480 to chase it on their actual driveway a 1213 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,360 little bit. So, those are a couple 1214 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,000 David, are there any other examples? 1215 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,160 Okay. Yeah, in in this case, the reason 1216 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,160 why we're going to be doing the 1217 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,880 driveways, um in some cases it's about 3 1218 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,560 4 ft driveway that we're going to be 1219 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,760 redoing. In some cases there was a 15 ft 1220 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,760 of the driveway that we're doing. Reason 1221 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,800 behind because we got to make sure we 1222 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,880 are meeting our slopes. 1223 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,240 So, the slope requirements that we have, 1224 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:06,760 if the existing driveways are not 1225 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,560 meeting or if our project is making it 1226 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,520 worse, then we got to cut farther more 1227 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,600 than 1228 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,200 Because of the sidewalk, yeah, not 1229 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,440 because of their yeah. Because of the 1230 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,280 sidewalk. Okay. 1231 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,480 Um 1232 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,920 Yeah, I mean those people those 1233 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,240 residents they're excited. They're going 1234 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:22,680 to get some part of their driveways 1235 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,960 going to be brand new and um I'm all up 1236 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,280 for it. I mean if it's part of our 1237 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,400 project, we have to do it. We can't make 1238 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,120 their situation worse than what it is. 1239 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,840 Uh those are some of the projects. We 1240 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,640 have a whole lot other projects as a 1241 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,400 city that we're doing. Um 1242 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,640 Some of them are currently uh speaking, 1243 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,160 they are 1244 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,920 out to bid. We haven't had a contractor 1245 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,320 hired. A couple of them we had We do 1246 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960 have contractors hired, but we don't 1247 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,520 have an exact date to get them started. 1248 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,680 So, as we know more information and 1249 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,280 details on those 1250 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,080 uh most likely in the next month or two, 1251 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,280 we'll be able to give you uh information 1252 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,310 on the other ones. 1253 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,070 That's it. 1254 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,440 You can explain it. 1255 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,480 Okay. We're going to look at the 1256 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,680 presentation. Presentation, sure. Or you 1257 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,880 can show the video the other 1258 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,120 I'm going to have you put the video 1259 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,600 together first. 1260 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,400 We have three little videos today. 1261 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,320 >> I thought this was going to be released 1262 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,920 tomorrow, but evidently that busted my 1263 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,920 bubble when she said she's already seen 1264 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,840 it. Um I guess it was released today or 1265 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:32,710 yesterday? Yesterday night. Yesterday. 1266 00:54:32,720 --> 00:55:08,950 Ready to play? Yeah, go for it. 1267 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,800 Quick and short. 1268 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,920 >> Okay. So, can you compose the music? I 1269 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,160 did. That was uh yeah, I had made Yeah, 1270 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,480 thank you. 1271 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,920 Is that commercially available? Uh it 1272 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,990 is, yeah. 1273 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,880 And I just got a couple of 1274 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,040 uh 1275 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,800 non-music. I I didn't have time to write 1276 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,880 three songs, you know. 1277 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,000 You can go to the next slide. 1278 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,240 So, this is just going to be a time 1279 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,200 lapse of the last month of work. So, 1280 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,320 kind of where when we met last in Q Max, 1281 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,800 we hadn't had the girders set. So, this 1282 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,680 is like just right before it. So, you 1283 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,160 can go ahead and 1284 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,150 do that. 1285 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,480 Uh since then they've been framing uh 1286 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,200 the deck. You can see there that works. 1287 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,240 Uh 1288 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,520 the waterline starting up in the top not 1289 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,960 the top left corner there. So, we've 1290 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,960 installed waterline, getting the deck 1291 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,240 framed and re-barred. 1292 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:02,960 And the waterline like existing water 1293 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,880 that was flowing under the bridge 1294 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,920 before? Well, it's going it would go 1295 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,520 through the bridge the new bridge. So, 1296 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,280 we were relocating essentially. 1297 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,960 And then we've got those finished the 1298 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,960 bottom floor of the trail. It's not the 1299 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,400 finished floor, but the that's the 1300 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,000 foundation floor of the trail in. 1301 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,680 And then another moment wall poured the 1302 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,240 weed walls there. 1303 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:24,160 So, yeah, we're making progress. 1304 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,800 Still on schedule to open for the 4th? 1305 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,280 >> Mhm. 1306 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,440 Good. 1307 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,200 You know, the next 5 days. 1308 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,880 And this is the whole project since 1309 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:42,070 November. 1310 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,400 Water line on the other side. 1311 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,870 Basically. 1312 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,120 That's Christmas break. So, here you go. 1313 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,910 This one right here. 1314 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,160 So, we've come a long ways and 1315 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,800 I think a lot of the work been done so 1316 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,880 far has been underground and then and 1317 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,360 not very seen. So, next couple weeks 1318 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,000 we'll start seeing things going really 1319 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,440 quick with the deck being poured and 1320 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,760 trail being finished and what not. So, 1321 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,120 it'll go it'll pick up really quick the 1322 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,440 next couple months. 1323 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,920 Interesting Charles. When did you go 1324 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:29,950 down to get the water? Yeah. 1325 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,800 How much wider is the trail than it was? 1326 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,880 Um It is wider, right? 1327 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,520 >> It is. I think it's like 4 or 5 ft being 1328 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,720 wider. 1329 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,270 Got it. And then you're good. 1330 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,320 Okay. 1331 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,720 Project progressing, we're on time. 1332 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,920 We're on track to open up summer 1333 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,720 before the 4th is our goal. So, we're looking good right now. We got the 1334 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,040 water line finished. It should be turned 1335 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,480 on today. 1336 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,720 And 1337 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,120 we'll get storm drain and start grading 1338 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,840 the road. So, you'll see quite a bit of 1339 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,840 surface work around the bridge. Bridge 1340 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,040 has still got some time to go, but 1341 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:20,630 the utility and surface work around will start picking up here. 1342 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,280 Our last item, uh University Avenue 1343 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,400 Bridge replacement update. Um 1344 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,160 They were running 1345 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:28,840 um 1346 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,670 our 1347 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,560 Oh, what's it called? 1348 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,070 Um ramming through our 1349 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,520 a big pipe. Boring 1350 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,680 >> casing. They're boring the casing. We're 1351 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,160 push pushing through our casing and we 1352 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,920 hit something. 1353 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,680 Contractor hit something. 1354 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,080 And uh we think they hit the old mill 1355 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,280 race 1356 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,120 uh water uh 1357 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,680 way, but 1358 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,080 um we don't know for certain. 1359 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,120 That's going to result in the overall 1360 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,280 project about a 3-month delay. Wow. 1361 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,240 Um 7 weeks just to get the new casing. 1362 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,880 They're going to step up the old casing 1363 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,680 from like 56 to 72. 1364 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,360 And that casing was going to be a full 1365 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,080 inch thick. 1366 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,240 And 72 inches tall. So, 1367 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,960 they hope whatever was blocking their 1368 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,640 way, they'll be able to 1369 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,560 go through it. 1370 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,400 So, the other casing hit that 1371 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,920 and then got pushed up 7 in. 1372 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,680 is enough to cause problems with 1373 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,080 the railroad. 1374 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,120 Okay, so that's kind of 1375 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,920 the result of the delay. We got to get 1376 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,520 railroad approval 1377 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,040 uh to go to the bigger casing. 1378 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,200 Um and of course this is all UDOT and their contractors working away, but 1379 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,320 we're in 1380 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,040 uh weekly meetings with them going over 1381 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,880 this type of stuff. 1382 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,040 So, 1383 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840 it might be as much as a 3-month delay, 1384 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,680 but again, we've had some good weather. 1385 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,440 Uh 1386 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,800 we're 1387 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,480 um 1388 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,600 open they can make some of that up. 1389 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:18,030 That's kind of where we're at on that. 1390 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,560 Yeah, well Is Is not Is there water 1391 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,520 going through it or anything or I don't 1392 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,080 know people know that for certain. You 1393 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,840 don't know? Yeah, there's got to be 1394 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,840 water going through it, but we don't 1395 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,520 know how much water is through it. Yeah, 1396 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,640 there's personally no way that they're 1397 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,520 used and some are 1398 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,480 We've captured it at some places and 1399 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,240 others it's still 1400 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,960 Um there's probably water that flows 1401 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,840 from groundwater. A lot of it's dirt 1402 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,600 bottom. Um 1403 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,200 so, it's kind of unknown. It's hard to 1404 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,840 know. There's not really There's no 1405 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,680 access points to it, so it's kind of an 1406 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,590 unknown until you open it up. 1407 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,640 What's interesting about this thing we 1408 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,640 think 1409 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,240 So, it's made of brick. 1410 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,000 And the bottom is brick and the two 1411 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,360 sides are brick and then 1412 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,160 supposedly it has an arch brick cover to 1413 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,080 it. 1414 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,800 Which is amazing. 1415 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,280 Um it 1416 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,760 If this thing was above ground, it would 1417 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,560 be historic. We couldn't even touch it. 1418 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,000 But because it's below ground and no one 1419 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,760 sees it, 1420 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,880 think we're okay to move forward. So, 1421 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,440 anyway, that's where we're at. 1422 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,080 It's It's It's just Yeah. It is what it 1423 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,240 is. We don't put water into it anymore, 1424 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,200 like David said. We think we've captured 1425 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,120 parts of the video. Okay. So, they have 1426 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,480 captured a lot of 1427 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,400 But it's more down this way, right? That 1428 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,320 we put water. Yeah. 1429 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,280 Okay. 1430 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,400 So. 1431 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,920 Kind of interesting. 1432 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,720 So. 1433 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,440 Out of those moments 1434 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,720 It is. I mean, it was just like 1435 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,520 Danielle's project 2 years ago when 1436 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,000 we're tearing out the first uh 1437 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,520 first west and a little bit of 6th 1438 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,280 South. About 6 ft down, there's the 1439 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,910 railroad tracks. 1440 01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,680 Yeah. 1441 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,240 A rail ties, the whole bit. That was 1442 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,560 kind of funny. 1443 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,360 So. Yeah. 1444 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,000 No. 1445 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,680 Okay. 1446 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,280 I open discussion and close discussion. 1447 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,320 I think that's all I 1448 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,640 have to say. Thank you so much and we 1449 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,480 will adjourn. 1450 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,400 Thank you. 1451 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:23,600 And I dare you to say the same thing.