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Okay. All right. Welcome, everybody. I'd like to call this Public West Metro Board of Directors'

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meeting to order. It is July, or I'm sorry, June 22nd, 5.30 p.m.

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Katrina, can I get a roll call?

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Good evening, Board of Directors. Katrina Peter, Chief Administrative Officer, calling roll.

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President Axworthy? Here. Director Roberts? Present. Director Pasternak? Here. And we'll

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let it be known that Vice President Vickers is absent.

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His absent will be marked as excused

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and Director Potter is currently running late.

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He will be arriving shortly.

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Thank you.

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He got stuck in traffic.

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There's an accident up north.

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Greg, would you like to lead us in invocation, please?

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Yes.

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Everybody bow their heads, please.

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Lord, I want to thank you for this day,

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this gathering of people.

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And I ask that you give us the opportunity

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to break new ground and make good decisions for our community, the taxpayers, and show

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them that we have their best interests at heart.

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We ask that everyone brings pertinent information to this discussion that we're going to have

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this evening.

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And Lord, we just ask that you bless everything that we do each and every day, and we thank

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you for keeping it safe while we're out on the highways and the byways and all

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these things I ask in your name y'all Wayne Joshua amen thank you Chris would

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We'd like to lead us in the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation,

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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At this point, can we get a motion to approve the agenda?

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I second the motion.

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motion the motion to approve the agenda as of June the 22nd at 5 33 p.m. so we

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have a motion second second all that's in favor hi any proposed no moving on

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public comments do we have any public comments we do not have any public

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comments submitted in person or signed up in person but we do have one that was

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submitted online. Okay. This comes from Nikki Hart. She states, Hello, please include the

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following statement in your public comment record for Monday's discussion regarding road

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budget allocation. I review the letter to the county regarding road budget allocation

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for Public West. Will I appreciate the effort to establish a transparent baseline for evaluating

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road funding equity? Metros current Metros current analysis relies primarily on a per

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mile allocation model at 33% a miles equals 33% of dollars framing is too simplistic

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and bias toward a predetermined conclusion without considering how road maintenance and capital investments are actually prioritized.

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Not all road miles carry the same costs, traffic volume, safety requirements, pavement conditions, drainage needs, or lifecycle obligations.

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A more complete equity analysis would evaluate factors such as lane miles, road condition, traffic counts, surface type, bridge and drainage infrastructure,

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and historical investment levels alongside roadway mileage.

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which a jointly developed data-driven methodology would provide a stronger basis for determining

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equity than a simple dollars per mile comparison alone.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Katrina.

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The only thing I'll comment on that one is that we should be having a meeting on July

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9th at the Publis Library, and I would love for as many people to be there as possible

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from our community so that we they can hear the discussion regarding that very topic.

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All right. Can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda?

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I make a motion to approve the consent agenda as it stands. Second.

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We have a motion in second. All those in favor? Aye.

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Hi.

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Any opposed?

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Okay.

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Moving on.

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First up, special presentation by Paycock, Dylan Goodman.

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Thank you very much for having me today.

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And thank you, Director Roberts, for inviting me to come and give this presentation.

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My name is Dylan Goodman.

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I am the Transportation Planner for the Pueblo Area Council of Governments Metropolitan

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Politan Planning Organization.

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This is a presentation largely to just give you some information on what we do, what role

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we serve in the region, and then specifically how we work with our partners in Pueblo West

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to advance transportation planning and transportation investments in the Pueblo West area.

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First slide, please.

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So who and what is PAYCOG?

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for those who don't know, PECOG, San For, again, Public Area Council of Governments,

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and a Council of Governments is a very unique and often not well-known voluntary association

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of local and regional governments that largely came about during the 50s and 60s during America's

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suburbanization boom, where you started having cities shift from more monolithic structures

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into a more patchwork of suburbs and communities all operating on a single

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network and seeing more and more shared issues crop up. They tend to be governed

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by a board of directors that represent the involved governing bodies and the

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PAKOG Board of Directors is very unique because it isn't just made up of the

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traditional local governments such as cities, counties and metro districts but

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ours also includes our school districts and the Salt Creek Sanitation and Board of Waterworks

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as represented members on our Board of Directors.

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Local governments, when forming a council of government, will often distribute responsibilities

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up to the regional level.

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And in the case of the Public Area Council of Governments, we have primary administrative

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of oversight over regional transportation planning,

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environmental, and water quality issues as well.

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Next slide, please.

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For another acronym, we have the MPO,

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or the Metropolitan Planning Organization.

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MPOs are federally mandated organizations

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that are established in census designated

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urbanized areas that have a population of over 50,000

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people.

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They are given oversight on coordinating regional transportation, planning, plans, goals, projects.

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They are really there to make sure that all of these individual patchworks that are starting to form larger urban areas

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don't create conflicting plans, and they also help to create a – what's the word?

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They help to pool resources so that you don't have ten different planning agencies and instead only need one to oversee a whole area.

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Now, our primary functions are to program, plan, and monitor the state and federal funding that comes into our region, draft our regional transportation plans,

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and help to set our region's performance measures and goals, which get voted on at pay cog meetings, as well as to help facilitate coordination

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nation and conversation between our local governments and transportation-related departments around

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the metropolitan area and our transportation planning region.

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So the three C's in planning are Continuing Comprehensive and Cooperative.

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These are written into law from transportation reconciliation bills passed at the federal

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level that establish the effective goals of metropolitan planning which is to have a continuing

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account of the planning process, to have a comprehensive plan for our whole region and

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to form cooperative bonds between our local agencies and jurisdictions that push forward

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the goals of the entire region.

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Now the MPO is first and foremost a coordinating body.

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It is important for us to fill in communication gaps that often form between our local agencies.

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These communication gaps are not just on the – are not just between our local governments

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but can also form within them.

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And so we tend to act as a nervous system that helps to distribute information around

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the region.

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We really support coordination and transparency between the MPO and our local agencies as that helps us create an economy of scale when working on and coordinating projects.

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It also helps us pursue federal and state grants as they tend to favor projects that are built on interdepartmental and intergovernment collaboration.

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And our long-range plans in general are better, which if you don't remember, about a year

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back, year and a half back, I came and gave a presentation on our long-range planning

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process, but coordination helps us create the best long-range plan possible to serve

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our whole region.

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Now the MPO also helps to provide support through research, data gathering, as well

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is exploring topics which will help our local agencies make more informed transportation

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related decisions. A good example would be policy research on infrastructure changes that

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might help reduce the heat footprints that urban environments often see. Next slide please.

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Thank you. We have four, technically five primary documents that we work on. The

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The first one is our Unified Planning Work Program.

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You're going to notice throughout all of this that we really love our acronyms.

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So the Unified Planning Work Program, or the UPWP, is a federally required document that

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lists all of our work tasks and our annual budget.

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Then we have our Transportation Improvement Program.

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This is a document that we refresh annually.

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It is a planning document that helps to keep track of all of the federal and

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and state funds that flow into our region and make sure that they stay reconciled with

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the state transportation improvement program or the STIP.

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Our primary document is our long-range transportation plan or the LRTP.

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This is a plan that looks 25 years out and sets our region's performance measures.

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Our goals has a list of the aspirational projects that our local jurisdictions hope

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to achieve in that timeframe, and sets our greenhouse gas performance measures that help

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us stay aligned with the state GHG trajectory.

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We also have the bike and pedestrian master plan, which sets the standards for our multimodal

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infrastructure throughout the region, helps to identify future trails, and lays out

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the city and county wide active transportation network.

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This is a plan.

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And that we really collaborate with Pueblo Weston as, you know, we want to support your

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trail network and really help to see it continue to grow.

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We also have, it's not listed here, a fifth document called our public participation plan.

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This is a plan that just outlines how the MPO itself will engage in public participation

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and what that process looks like for our planning process.

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It has recently expanded, though, to include guides and best practices for local jurisdictions

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to take on how to improve their own public participation process and really just help

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our local agencies have strong, high-quality public engagement.

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Next slide, please.

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I want to touch on the Multimodal Options and Mitigation Fund and the Carbon Reduction

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Program.

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program. These are two funding pools that are both state and federal, respectively, that

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the MPO has oversight of and distributes to our local agencies through a competitive grant

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process to help fund local projects. These funds can be used in a variety of ways. They

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have helped to fund trails and roadway improvements, done project design and planning,

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including the design for the Industrial and Purcell Intersection Project.

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Safety improvements around the region has been used to install EV chargers in public spaces

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and has a wide variety of more projects it can be used for.

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Next slide, please.

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Now I want to touch into how we support and work with Pueblo West as it's a very

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important relationship for us.

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One way that we provide support universally is through writing letters of support to our

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four local agencies whenever they go after state and federal grants.

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We also have performed walk audits to help engage the community in the past, including

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a walk audit specifically of McCulloch and Spalding to look at how that intersection

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intersection could be made safer for pedestrians, cyclists, and car users, as it is a generally

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problematic intersection.

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We also collect user accounts for trails around the region, and on request have performed

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those accounts for Pueblo West as well.

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We help to fund roadway improvements and studies alongside Pueblo County.

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And we have, of course, really sought Pueblo West's engagement for public engagement in

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our core documents to make sure that we're supporting Pueblo West's needs and improvements

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in our long-range transportation plan and our bicycle and pedestrian master plan.

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We also have the data that maps out the region's trail networks and help to work

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with Parks and Rec to help plan out your proposed trails.

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Next slide, please.

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This is just a list of projects that we have either helped to fund in whole or in part

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around the Pueblo West region.

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The SDS Trail Project was funded with MMLF funding.

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The Joe Martinez Trail Project was in part funded with MMLF funding.

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funding. The Future Medal of Honor Trail is also funded with MMOF funding, and the Civic

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Center Park project was funded in our latest round of multimodal options, multimodal options

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and mitigation funding. Now it is important to note on these funds that they are currently

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not in high availability. The carbon reduction program fund from the federal government is

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currently under, was released with the IJA or the Inflation Reduction Act as a part of

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that overall infrastructure spending and it is currently not looking to be reallocated

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with this next transportation bill coming through the House and Senate.

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And our MMO funds is guaranteed through the state, but due to the state's current budgetary

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issues, it has come under the eyes of our House and Senate for reductions until our

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state budget has balanced out properly. I will now accept any questions you have.

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Thanks Dylan. Appreciate it. I didn't know that about some of the

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Pueblo West stuff so thanks for sharing that. Last time you came there was a

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website with the where you you can drop pins on certain intersections yes problem

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intersections is that still in use that you know over so that map is no longer

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accepting any investments as that was a part of our long-range transportation

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plans public engagement to my knowledge the map should still be up and

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able to be accessed on the website pay cog moves the region and all of the feedback we

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received on that should be located in our long range transportation plan which can be found

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at the website pay cog moves the region dot com or at pay cog dot net.

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Thank you.

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We also do, I did not account for this as we recently expanded our public engagement

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timeline for this project after I made this presentation, but we are currently

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performing public engagement for our Bicycle and Pedestrian Master Plan, which

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we're currently working on updating, and links to that can be found on

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paycog.net. We have very similar maps and surveys to what we released last

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time and would love to see public less feedback on that. It recently got pushed

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to, I believe, the end of June for how long we will be accepting feedback on that

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for those maps and on that survey. I apologize for not bringing materials

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with me for it this time.

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I will take a look at the website and find out more

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information. I appreciate it. Any other questions? No, thank you for the update.

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And if you are interested, this is a one pager that we made for pay cog and MPO activities.

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This was more made for our board of directors orientation, but I'm happy to give you all

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a copy as well as a one of my cars.

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That way you can contact me in the MPO and if you're interested you have this.

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And any extras I will leave on the table.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Of course, thank you very much for having me again and thank you for being very present

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members in our community.

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We love our working relationship with your parks and rec department and we love seeing

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you.

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Carol's pretty awesome.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Next on the agenda is guidance.

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Number one is strategic priority number four slash 13 master planning and community

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pool presented by Carol Cosby.

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Hi Carol.

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and

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Kurt Long. Sorry, Kurt. Yeah, it's okay. Good evening, President X, we're the

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members of the board. Kurt Long and I are here tonight to present a long-term

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okay, where's our slight person, long-term recreation campus vision for Assembly

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Drive and North McCulloch Boulevard property. This is the property where the

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community indoor pool is planned. As we have continued looking at the site staff

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believe there are maybe a longer a larger long-term opportunity to develop this

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area and a centralized recreation campus in Public West. It's just the

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beginning phases. It's just a vision that we've all discussed in the

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department and we're not we're not we don't want any approval tonight or any

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action all we want is to bring to the board what our ideas are in Parks and

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Rec.

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The purpose of the presentation is again to share a long-term vision of

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the site. We want to discuss future recreation needs and look at

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potential opportunities and get feedback from our board on whether

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staff should continue exploring this concept. We also have talked about future partnerships.

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Staff has been approached by the community, a couple of community stakeholders and private

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groups about possible recreational related opportunities. And before any of those conversations

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go too far, we felt that it was important that we brought it to you, showed you our

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vision and talk to you about it and got some feedback from our board.

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Why this

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discussion matters, and I'll do most of the talking, is because Pueblo West

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continues to grow and the demand put on our department is heavy at this time

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and we're looking at recreational opportunities so we can increase our

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service to our community. We're already seeing limitations with our current

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facilities, especially the indoor space, which is very limited, our athletic field, which

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are heavily used by our sports as well as practice and our adult.

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And this site gives actually the district a chance to be proactive instead of reacting

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later when space becomes even more limited.

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So we can start thinking now of what could be put on this property.

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This does not mean anything would happen right away and it simply means that we're just trying

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to plan wisely for the future for our community.

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This vision connects directly to the Parks and Recreation Master Plan.

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We always talk about the Master Plan, but the Master Plan was last updated on 2024

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and we do a great job in our department following that plan and trying to use that

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as our vital source to follow through with our department.

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It identified several priorities, including more indoor recreation,

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more athletic fields, better access to youth and adult sports,

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family recreation destinations, and facilities that

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support our future growth. This campus concept is

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one possible way to begin addressing several of those priorities

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in one location. This is not just about adding buildings or fields, it is about

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looking at long-term needs for Pueblo West and making sure district-owned

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property is used in a way that provides the greatest community benefit. At this

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time, Kurt will talk more about our recreation challenges and what we are

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seeing from the programming side. Thanks Carol. Good evening board. So from the

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programming side one of our biggest challenges is indoor space. Right now we

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rely heavily on our partnership with District 70 and being able to use their

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gyms for our programs. We are very grateful for that partnership and we

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have a great relationship with District 70. Without that we would not be

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able to run indoor programs because we just have no facility. So I do want to

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emphasize how much we do appreciate that. But that does come with challenges. A lot

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of times they have the priority for their, you know, sports, their activities, a

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lot of stuff they have going on. So that really hinders our ability to

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schedule, especially evenings, weekends, when we want to have our programs. So the

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issue isn't really that we can't run the programs. The issue is our ability to

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grow at clinics, host tournaments, and create consistent programs and schedules.

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A dedicated indoor rec space would give us that opportunity to expand and grow

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and just offer more to meet that community demand.

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Programs most

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Most affected include youth basketball, volleyball, pickleball, indoor soccer, again hosting camps

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and clinics, and adult sports leagues.

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And one good example, we run adult volleyball at the middle schools during weeknights.

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And because of their schedule, you know, with sports and everything, we're not able

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to start our activities until after 7.30.

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So that's really just a tough schedule for our participants to start that late.

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We are seeing the same type of challenge with our outdoor sports.

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Currently the Parks Department has three soccer fields and three softball fields at Lavel Park.

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Those fields are heavily used for practices, tournaments, R games, and just general public use.

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As participation grows, practice and space become harder to schedule.

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We see a lot of interest in practice times.

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There's just really nowhere.

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for teams to practice in Pueblo in general, the whole area. So having another facility that

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offers a space like that for the community would be a huge benefit.

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So this slide shows

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just the overall long-term campus vision. I'm not sure if everyone could see that site

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map there, but that's just a rough layout of what we're thinking for that site.

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The

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community indoor pool would remain as the anchor facility. Around that, the site could

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potentially include indoor rec center, baseball softball complex, multi-purpose athletic

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fields, family rec areas, and shared parking and support facilities. The important point

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is, again, this is just a conceptual, very rough site plan. The purpose is to show

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So what may be possible over time if the district plans the property as a complete, excuse me, a complete rec campus instead of looking at each facility separately as we move on.

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Development would happen in phases and that would depend on board action and direction, funding, grants, partnerships, and community priorities.

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We are always seeking grants, so that could be a possibility down the road if we could seek out a grant for something like this to expand on.

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The community indoor pool is the anchor in this area. The conceptual design for this is a six-lane lap pool, party room and spectator seating, locker rooms, lobby space, and then room for future expansion.

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It does, the pool does address the longstanding community need and is already, again, the

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main focus of this site.

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And what we're discussing tonight would be the surrounding area of the pool.

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So the conceptual design that was the prior slide, again, we just drew out some things

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where it would fit on the site and made sense so that if individuals were at the pool

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parents could go out to a picnic area. So it would be on all one general location

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where it would serve everyone at one time.

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If we're looking at an indoor rec

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center we could you know offer something that has multi-purpose courts, two to

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three multi-purpose courts that support basketball, volleyball, pickable and then

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And maybe a potential indoor turf area for indoor soccer, flag football to run clinics

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and camps and indoor tournaments.

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I think the real value of this type of facility is just flexibility.

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We could do so much if we had our own facility like this as far as programming.

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So I think that is really huge.

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It would also reduce our reliance on school gyms because they have a lot going on as

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well.

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and it would really just give parks and rec more control over scheduling and future program growth.

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The outdoor sports facilities could potentially include a three to four field baseball softball complex,

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multi-purpose athletic fields, just a large open area that we could, you know, make soccer fields,

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football fields, and just offer different outdoor programs.

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The main point is that additional outdoor sports space would help address current field limitations.

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As we mentioned, our fields are heavily used, so it would take the demand off our current facilities

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so we could, you know, maintain them a little better when they're not being used so much throughout the year.

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Family recreation is a vision of ours too.

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We always hear there's not enough parks.

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parks. This would be a great opportunity for a north side park, which would include playgrounds,

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open lawn areas, shaded areas, community gathering spaces, and family focused area for everyone

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to use. Sure, we're talking all about sports, but we want families to come and enjoy it

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as well.

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Why does this site work? Well, actually, board, you picked this site.

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That's exactly why.

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This site was picked when we were looking at the two different sites for the community

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pool and we did share a vision at that time and so did you guys on, you know, if we put

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it here it would provide a north side park.

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We have a lot of room to expand and it makes a lot of sense.

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It's 62 acres and it's a big advantage in this area because, again, it's all in one location.

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It makes it easier for people to go to, but it also is a benefit for Parks and Rec with

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our limited staff that we have an area that we can be in one area and be able to maintain

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everything and not so spread out that we're always going somewhere else.

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So

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we really think the potential community benefits are huge.

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A WREC campus could expand recreation access.

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It would create more year-round programming opportunities.

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Really help us support tournaments and events for the community.

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Help local businesses by bringing in more activity into Public West.

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It could also support long-term WREC sustainability

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for Parks and WREC. From the programming side

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It would give us more flexibility to serve the youth, adults, families, and community groups.

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And the long-term benefit is not just more facilities.

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It's better, you know, scheduling and stronger recreation systems for Pueblo West.

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Partnerships are a very important part of this discussion.

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Again, we mentioned earlier, staff has been approached by a couple of partners who are very interested in providing recreation out here.

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It could be a very positive opportunity for our department.

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Future partnerships should support what our community needs are and protect parks and

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recreation programming, access and maintain affordability and accessibility.

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We don't want to enter into any partnerships without discussion with the board and knowing

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your vision as well and what priorities are for this property.

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And that's kind of why we're here tonight, just to, again, make you aware of what our

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vision is, what we look at, what we know our demand is through our programming, what

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we can't do, what we can do, because, again, we don't have the facilities to do it.

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The important takeaways, again, this is the early conceptual vision.

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No final decisions tonight.

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Again, it would be a phased overtime project.

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And we're just seeking board feedback and direction on moving forward.

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With that, I'm asking board for any feedback discussion.

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First time we got left, Christian.

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Time three minutes.

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Oh, okay.

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Do you want to go around the table?

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Christian, you want to go first?

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I mean, that's the reason I picked this site was for this moment, basically, to kick something like this off.

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So I'm in favor of it overall.

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I'm open to any partnerships.

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I think, ironically, I said to Christian, what about partnerships like the day before the agenda came out?

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So I would be open to hearing what anybody has to offer in terms of partnership.

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I wouldn't shut the door on anyone.

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And I suppose at the point that you think it's pertinent that we should know how that conversation is going, you could bring it to us.

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What amenities should be prioritized?

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I know that gym space as far as basketball courts is extremely limited in the county, much like indoor pools.

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So I know people play a lot of times in churches.

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I know the Mesa Rec Center gets a ton of use.

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I know the Y is extremely overcrowded for youth basketball.

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And again, I know that the teams there are always

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looking to add more practice times and the Y just can't.

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So people go to wherever they can with whatever

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relationships they have and try to get into church gyms

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and things like that. So I'm certain that space would get use. So yeah, I think you guys should

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definitely continue the planning of it.

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I don't know that I have anything for concerns at this point,

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but that's my take.

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Rodney. I appreciate you guys for thinking on this. These are one of our

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priorities and thinking about grants, whatever grants we can get, even public

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donations, so on and so forth, maybe set up something where the public can go

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online and contribute in some other way. I understand they say they can

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contribute in taxes but you know we're limited so if they want to donate

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more or give more and have the public be able to donate in some form or fashion to help.

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Because this obviously costs money.

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Enforcement things we have to do in this field is prioritize and where we spend that money.

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And I think this, I think should be a priority personally because we do need more stuff here

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for family recreation and so on and so forth and we're set up for it, we just need to know how to

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get it going.

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I think maybe getting some good fields going and stuff, what kind of grass to use

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or this low maintenance grass kind of stuff doesn't take as much water, that kind of thing to

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utilize because it's easy to move dirt and make fields. It's a little harder for buildings and

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construction so whatever we can do to maybe see the the public the public can

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see us moving forward with some things in this area possibly but yeah I really

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appreciate your forward thinking and hopefully we can come up with some where

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the public is takes interest in it and possible donations so thank you thank

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Thank you.

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Greg?

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I like the whole idea.

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The whole community family thing.

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Did you have a community center in there for like, you know, like during the day, you

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got retirees and stuff that can come in and they can have like board games or chess,

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checkers, cards, or a multi-function community center?

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We did not have that because when we first looked at community center quite a

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while back their pool, the gymnasium, everything was put into one. However if we

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build it correctly you can partition off some of the courts where you can do

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some of that. You don't have to use all the courts just for sports you can do

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other there's other opportunities for that. That is one thing we are

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lacking out here is senior programming because we really don't have any place to

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have that and that that is one of our lacking programming. I definitely like

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to not only for seniors but for kids and family have the opportunity to

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participate in different programs because not everybody's interested in sports.

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That is correct. Right? So we can broaden our horizons and expand upon

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on that so that everybody gets a taste of the pie, per se,

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as far as our recreation area of 62 acres there.

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I think that'd be great in the future.

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So I like y'all's planning.

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And you guys have been doing good work.

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I appreciate everything.

458
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Thank you.

459
00:44:01,860 --> 00:44:04,420
I agree that's a good conceptual plan as well.

460
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:06,500
Again, that's why that space was chosen,

461
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,240
so that we can expand upon our parks direct footprint.

462
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Let's see.

463
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,140
We've also discussed just putting it out there.

464
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,340
We've also discussed repurposing of the old swimming pool,

465
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,640
so I want to make sure that we have those discussions

466
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,380
and our budget meetings coming up as well.

467
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,860
As far as looking to the future and concerns,

468
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,680
I know if we have a conceptual plan,

469
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:41,480
and it might, we have to look at the longevity of what we build, the lifespan, the degradation,

470
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:47,040
et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, if we know that the conceptual plan in its entirety

471
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,100
is going to take 20, 25 years to complete, is a parking lot. Do we build a huge parking

472
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:59,000
lot for the conceptual plan to fit everything knowing that it's going to degrade over

473
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,780
20-year period.

474
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,920
You know what I mean? So we need to balance those types of things as we look forward to

475
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:14,840
manage costs. Other than that, that would be my only caution moving forward. In the end,

476
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:21,620
assuming that we can maintain the fire sales tax, it would be my goal, and this would be

477
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:28,600
after I'm gone, I'm sure, it would be my goal to divert a portion of some of the general

478
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,060
fund money that the fire currently gets to Parks and Rec to help execute the master plan.

479
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:40,060
That's always been kind of a vision of mine moving forward if we were to extend the fire

480
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:40,940
stales tax plan.

481
00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:46,800
They can still fire, the department can still grow, they can still maintain, yet we can

482
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,720
accomplish what we need to do for our constituents and our community in terms of Parks and

483
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:54,680
Rec, so without further taxation.

484
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:01,440
That's all I've got. Anyone else?

485
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,380
We appreciate the board's time tonight and have a good evening.

486
00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:08,300
Thank you, Carol. Thank you.

487
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:08,420
Thank you, Kurt.

488
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,380
Thank you, Carol. See you guys on Thursday.

489
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,020
Okay. Next up is Strategic Priority Number Four, Master Planning, Fire Station One,

490
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,240
and Schematic Design Update by Brian Caserta.

491
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,300
It's not Brian here.

492
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,420
It's not Brian.

493
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:28,400
It's not Brian.

494
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,020
Sorry about that.

495
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,640
Last minute change.

496
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,660
President Axler, the members of the board, I am not Chief Casserta.

497
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Deputy Chief Tim Mitchell.

498
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,060
Chief had something come up that he had to go to relatively quickly.

499
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,100
So you have me.

500
00:46:54,100 --> 00:47:00,000
So, we're here to sometime back, the board had asked that when we got to the schematic

501
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,340
design of Fire Station One's edition that we make a presentation.

502
00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:12,160
So, we're here to make that presentation, not looking for any decisions, any decisions

503
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,840
to be made, anything else other than that, other than the presentation.

504
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,940
So, that's really what we got.

505
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:28,320
So just glancing through the documents we were looking at a stake building versus a metal correct

506
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,900
so what are your thoughts on so based on what we have discovered and what we've found out and

507
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:38,880
kind of puts the feelers out that the metal building would be the most cost effective

508
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,820
option and that would be the decision that would be the direction we go it was close

509
00:47:42,820 --> 00:47:44,180
though, right, if I remember correctly.

510
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,120
We're not going into metal, are we?

511
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:47,400
Yeah, pre-engineered.

512
00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:48,260
Oh, okay.

513
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:48,600
Sorry.

514
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,300
Sorry.

515
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:49,880
I apologize.

516
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,600
No, you're okay.

517
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,360
What was your question?

518
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:51,720
I'm sorry.

519
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,460
The costs were fairly close.

520
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,180
They were relatively close, yeah.

521
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,640
There were some other factors involved.

522
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,700
I don't exactly have the numbers in front of me, because I was not prepared for this.

523
00:48:03,020 --> 00:48:07,740
But yeah, they were close, but I would say not close enough for us to make a decision

524
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:08,580
to go with the stick print.

525
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:09,500
Okay.

526
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:21,020
My concern is, in the design phase, how close are we to putting it out for FRP?

527
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,420
I don't know if you know if Toppy had a fifth share in any timeline for it.

528
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,480
I will share that.

529
00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:31,300
I understand where the question is coming from as we're talking about the admin building

530
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:31,800
design.

531
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,120
It's come up with giving us a time frame of, I think, November-ish to be able to

532
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,280
put it out for an ISP invitation for bid.

533
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,340
which gets them on the docket essentially with contractors later in the year and

534
00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:48,480
the idea is or the hope is more advantageous because of the level of work

535
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,580
they may be doing at the time means that they may be hungrier in their words

536
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,640
for those types of projects at the end of the year and there might be cost

537
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,940
savings associated with it as opposed to delaying into the next year and I

538
00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:01,760
thought I remember that we were looking at a similar sometime in the fall

539
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,260
similar IFB or starting that process if that's my recollection is correct

540
00:49:06,260 --> 00:49:11,240
I believe that to be correct. Okay, we can confirm the dates just to be sure but I think that's what we talked about last week

541
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:12,180
When this came up as well

542
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,200
Okay

543
00:49:16,180 --> 00:49:22,260
They sounds great and they're farther ahead than obviously the design for the admin building as we just started meeting a couple weeks ago

544
00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:25,640
So that is good news. Hopefully we can get some cost savings on it, too

545
00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:30,640
I don't know I

546
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,460
Don't share, you know, we've been told

547
00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:38,660
When they go put it out for bid and stuff, they're actually experiencing some competition

548
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:40,040
and some cost change.

549
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,920
So I mean cost savings.

550
00:49:42,540 --> 00:49:50,580
So yeah, that's great whenever we can save money for the taxpayers and so thank you.

551
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,560
We're actually moving into design development at this point.

552
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:58,560
So we're about 60% complete on design.

553
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,440
So we're well ahead of the admin building.

554
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,460
So you're not in the landscaping place yet?

555
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:06,400
Not yet.

556
00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:07,020
Okay.

557
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,500
Thank you.

558
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,460
Any other questions?

559
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:15,620
Okay.

560
00:50:16,420 --> 00:50:17,240
Appreciate the update.

561
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,240
Thank you for your time.

562
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:19,700
Thanks for staying in.

563
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:21,080
Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that.

564
00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:22,260
Sorry, Tim.

565
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,860
It was last minute decision, too.

566
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,640
So it surprised me as well.

567
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,780
Thank you very much.

568
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:27,360
Thanks, sir.

569
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,220
You did good.

570
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:29,000
Thank you.

571
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:29,700
Thanks, sir.

572
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,760
All right.

573
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:36,460
Next up, strategic crowding number four, master planning discussion regarding track 317 presented

574
00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:37,200
by Sean Winters.

575
00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:40,690
Good

576
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:51,400
evening, President Daxworthy, members of the board, Sean Winters, director of

577
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,220
operational support.

578
00:50:53,060 --> 00:51:01,420
So here tonight to give you an update on track 317, I think the last board meeting

579
00:51:01,420 --> 00:51:08,680
the board has asked us to approach the county and see if we could negotiate some

580
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:14,860
of the terms and conditions of the vacation plat. So we have started with

581
00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:19,120
beginning those discussions with Pueblo County planning and development and we

582
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,440
will continue to coordinate with them along with Road and Bridge and a copy

583
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,540
of that email to the planning planning and development is included in your

584
00:51:28,540 --> 00:51:33,920
packet. One of the things that we had also discussed at the last meeting was

585
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,300
the board's desire to have a single access point along the Bacullo Boulevard

586
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:44,200
near Enchanted Hills. Staff also at that time identified that this location

587
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,420
might not meet Pueblo County Roadway design standards creating any approval

588
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:54,100
challenge. But we do have an alternative location that we would like for you

589
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:57,880
to consider in Katrina if we go to the aerial view.

590
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,780
It's towards towards the

591
00:52:05,780 --> 00:52:06,060
end.

592
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:17,860
There we go. So this alternative access point is north of McCulloch Boulevard

593
00:52:17,860 --> 00:52:24,560
on Rancho Vista. So that is the area that is clouded in yellow. The other area

594
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:32,140
that was preferred by the board is an area clouded in red, which is close to Enchanted

595
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:39,020
Hills, but not really. It's a man-made trail that's been made by unauthorized vehicular access.

596
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:49,460
This alternative location is in close proximity of Enchanted Hills and McCulloch,

597
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,920
but it would be probably more acceptable to the county as it would meet their

598
00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:01,720
roadway criteria placing that access on a lower classified roadway. As you can see

599
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:07,860
there's already some some access being taken there more likely by utility

600
00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:12,820
companies there I know we have a couple of boxes in there but we do have an

601
00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:18,040
easement that runs through there that we did retain through the plat vacation

602
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:24,480
process and we thought that we would bring this this alternative up for the

603
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,280
board to consider and so this is one of the things that we would like to get your

604
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:34,740
feedback on. Do we want to negotiate the variants for the location on McCulloch

605
00:53:34,740 --> 00:53:39,600
and Enchanted Hills or does the board want to consider the nearby

606
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:42,020
compliant alternative?

607
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:47,080
I may want to jump in before I do.

608
00:53:49,850 --> 00:53:50,610
Go ahead Brian I'll

609
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:58,630
to have a team of you later so my initial thought was that we need to we need to

610
00:53:58,630 --> 00:54:04,470
try to win over the county with the original request before we look at

611
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:08,850
alternatives and before we seek an alternative especially in that location

612
00:54:08,850 --> 00:54:13,210
I think we need to talk to those neighbors along that road to see if

613
00:54:13,210 --> 00:54:19,930
that if they have any concerns or anything in that area as well the the

614
00:54:19,930 --> 00:54:26,050
The biggest reason why I felt that the access off of McCulloch would work best is because

615
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:30,430
it would also solve that problem with people driving along that dirt road where they're

616
00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:35,430
not supposed to be in order to drive along it and dump their trash and party down in

617
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:36,390
the culvert there.

618
00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:36,890
Yeah.

619
00:54:37,390 --> 00:54:42,330
One of the things that we're also looking at, in addition to having a singular location,

620
00:54:42,850 --> 00:54:48,830
now that we're building just one location, we may have some funding that would completely

621
00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:56,110
fence the entire parcel and then that way we can focus that that access in one

622
00:54:56,110 --> 00:55:03,090
location or not have any unauthorized areas. So you say we wouldn't be redoing

623
00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:06,410
any of the cul-de-sac or anything like that? Well that is part of the

624
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:12,510
negotiation if we can if we can prove to the county that we are going to not

625
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:17,770
encourage people to access in these cul-de-sac locations and force them

626
00:55:17,770 --> 00:55:25,150
to access over here then the need to reconstruct those cul-de-sacs to new

627
00:55:25,150 --> 00:55:30,970
standards may not be necessary because we're not introducing any more traffic

628
00:55:30,970 --> 00:55:35,570
there than we had before. Okay, that makes sense. So you're talking like Jane Lee?

629
00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:42,350
No, I'm thinking like four wire fence, probably two strands smooth as

630
00:55:42,350 --> 00:55:46,910
opposed to barbed wire because barbed wire catches lots of stuff, bags and

631
00:55:46,910 --> 00:55:49,370
tumbleweeds and stuff like that. No raise or water.

632
00:55:49,690 --> 00:55:50,690
Do you mind? No raise or water.

633
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:56,090
Both for the President and Sean, do you mind if I add just a little bit of clarity for where this is coming from?

634
00:55:56,330 --> 00:55:56,850
Yes, go for it.

635
00:55:56,850 --> 00:55:57,170
As far as it?

636
00:55:58,310 --> 00:56:04,770
Yeah, so the idea of what we talked about the last and the guidance was for the staff to start engaging with the county

637
00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:11,770
because we recognized, based on the vacation, it called that McCulloch Access, which we call Enchanted Hills

638
00:56:11,770 --> 00:56:14,910
based on its previous name, as an illegal access that had to be removed.

639
00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:20,830
Because I was in the vacation documents, it's going to require either the Board of County Commissioners,

640
00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:25,710
Planning Commissioners, County Planning and Development to overturn or allow some type of acceptance for that.

641
00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:30,790
As the staff is already moving towards trying to figure out what is that process to make that request,

642
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:34,850
one of the steps that came in is we're going to have to negotiate with County Road and Bridge

643
00:56:34,850 --> 00:56:39,610
to determine what the requirements are ahead of doing all of that, and I guess not ahead of it,

644
00:56:39,610 --> 00:56:44,370
But in line with doing all that, Shaw and I identified this and I think it's at least

645
00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:50,370
a very considerable alternative if either that did not work out or as a way to be able to,

646
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:55,350
I think, still meet the request of the principle of moving away from the cul-de-sacs, becoming

647
00:56:55,350 --> 00:57:00,070
those hammerhead parking lots, but still gaining that centralized access, technically

648
00:57:00,070 --> 00:57:07,330
the ranchovista access is lower classification than McCulloch, which is the reason why

649
00:57:07,330 --> 00:57:08,570
they're diverting us away from there.

650
00:57:08,570 --> 00:57:12,910
And if that could be a suitable alternative that gets it away from the cul-de-sacs in the hammerhead

651
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:19,090
While also accessing it in a place that doesn't have to go through the county commissioners to maybe

652
00:57:19,550 --> 00:57:24,610
Approve of that that might be the alternative. That's what that's coming from. Yeah. No, I totally understand where it's coming from

653
00:57:25,330 --> 00:57:27,050
We we discussed at the last meeting

654
00:57:27,830 --> 00:57:31,590
It's just it doesn't make sense that we can't build off from the Colic

655
00:57:33,930 --> 00:57:48,670
It doesn't matter what authority says you can or cannot do because it's not a bad idea to question it and say why or provide some sort of reasonable explanation as to what they're finding is.

656
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:58,150
It just doesn't make sense why you would cancel any access onto that property from the call. It just doesn't.

657
00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:07,430
There's more traffic off of or going through, say, part of the emergency room that's right

658
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:08,490
next to another intersection.

659
00:58:08,770 --> 00:58:13,710
And there's, I think this would be a lot safer than having an intersection right after a hill

660
00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:14,110
right there.

661
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:15,390
And they approve that access.

662
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:16,170
And it's on term.

663
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:16,710
Yeah.

664
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:19,070
So I don't understand their rationale.

665
00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:22,430
And because I don't understand their rationale, I think we should just move forward with

666
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:24,850
the letter knowing that we have a backup plan is great.

667
00:58:25,550 --> 00:58:29,350
but before we can move with that backup plan I think we should talk with those

668
00:58:29,350 --> 00:58:35,950
homeowners on that room. Sean in regards to the fencing how much of that

669
00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:42,350
fencing is going to restrict public access because I mean right now people

670
00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:46,830
who live on that streets with the cul-de-sacs can access it from their

671
00:58:46,830 --> 00:58:52,230
into their street are they still gonna be able to do that? If my way of

672
00:58:52,230 --> 00:59:01,190
thinking would be no. Because part of convincing the county that we're not going to increase

673
00:59:01,190 --> 00:59:07,190
traffic into one area saying that we're not going to allow access and we're going to have

674
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:13,870
a singular point of access over on McCulloch or off of Rancho Vista one of the two. If

675
00:59:13,870 --> 00:59:22,190
If you leave multiple areas open, now you have a less defendable perimeter.

676
00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:23,390
Yeah.

677
00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:24,570
I got the same problem, I heard.

678
00:59:24,830 --> 00:59:25,010
Yeah.

679
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:26,010
Right.

680
00:59:27,110 --> 00:59:31,090
So it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot of money on fencing if you're going

681
00:59:31,090 --> 00:59:32,190
to let people in.

682
00:59:32,290 --> 00:59:32,350
No.

683
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:32,830
Totally get it.

684
00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:34,930
That's why I asked that question just to clarify it.

685
00:59:35,050 --> 00:59:36,210
I do love the idea about fencing.

686
00:59:36,350 --> 00:59:42,010
I think that was a great compromise, utilize the money instead of doing the cul-de-sacs

687
00:59:42,010 --> 00:59:45,690
to utilize it to fence the yard. I think that's a great good idea.

688
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:50,510
Just remember, as we come up with these ideas, it's a double edged sword.

689
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:54,470
Sometimes we gain ground in one perspective and lose ground in another.

690
00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:55,330
So, yep.

691
00:59:57,690 --> 00:59:59,890
I just don't want to face the same problem six months.

692
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,840
Now, when we have a design, the neighbors call and say, I don't want this, so let's make sure we're doing our due diligence as well.

693
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, we should be looking at relatively low traffic volume, this being kind of a trailhead for open space.

694
01:00:19,660 --> 01:00:25,000
I don't expect that you're going to have a high traffic volume for that. So.

695
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,920
But again, that's a conversation with the neighbors, too.

696
01:00:30,140 --> 01:00:35,020
And again, it's another big piece of land that has plenty of parks and rec potential down the road.

697
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:35,420
Yeah.

698
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:36,340
Looking to the future.

699
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:43,900
And just a little bit on kind of what needs to happen down the road if this becomes a bigger developed park.

700
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:49,480
We'd have to go through a special use permit with the county, probably have.

701
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,480
If you're doing any developing playgrounds, buildings, that kind of thing, paved parking lots,

702
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:02,740
and then you also have the ongoing maintenance from parks and rec who maybe aren't prepared

703
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:10,740
to maintain an area so far away from their base operation, but taking baby steps, working on

704
01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:15,820
the open space. Well, I have to include that as part of our strategic planning and the strategic

705
01:01:15,820 --> 01:01:22,880
plan somewhere along the road, right? In the budget. I mean you create a budget

706
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,740
then you have a year to implement. So it's a process. Thank you. Thank you.

707
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:35,450
All right. Number four, strategic priority number eight, fostering public trust,

708
01:01:35,710 --> 01:01:38,750
community cleanup, presented by Matt Lunge and Marcos Riz.

709
01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:44,020
Good evening board.

710
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,020
Christian Jay, hi. You are listening. Marcos, I'm going to ask if there's

711
01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:52,600
any details or anything technical to be able to share

712
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,760
those questions for it.

713
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,540
They'll be pretty brief as we share some of this information

714
01:01:56,540 --> 01:01:57,100
in our packet.

715
01:01:57,980 --> 01:02:00,080
We had a very, I think, successful community cleanup

716
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:05,400
made 30th or late May that took a lot of the trash

717
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,160
out of the community and served a lot of folks for it.

718
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,320
It was, I think, one we have done in the past,

719
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,120
but this level, this detail, this planning,

720
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:17,580
all the execution, much more, I think,

721
01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:21,300
I think strong as far as how it performed and how people felt about it.

722
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:22,480
And there were some lessons learned.

723
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:26,900
I think this game, as far as the discussion with the board, Director Roberts brought up

724
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:31,460
an idea of doing something with being able to do something similar, I think, in a community

725
01:02:31,460 --> 01:02:34,820
cleanup type venue, though we had this one already in the shoot.

726
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:39,780
And there is one planned, I believe, October, November of this year, to follow up based

727
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:45,180
on some of the feedback and some understanding that this one was really a lot and filled

728
01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:45,740
up fast.

729
01:02:45,740 --> 01:02:49,860
even with a very large machine to help ensure it all got compacted, which is pretty cool.

730
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:54,280
But with it, we're going to have that one later this year, and all sharing all this

731
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,880
information with the board, understanding the request, want to just ask, essentially,

732
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,920
is it okay to essentially move forward with a, this is going to happen again this year,

733
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,520
we're going to get more data. At this time, we don't quite have a full year of all the data

734
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,960
of how much we might need to do this. And after that, we might be able to say more

735
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,360
explicitly, this is what's working, what's not, and kind of move forward with it,

736
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:17,300
or are there any additional requests or thoughts towards it and just the recommendation that comes

737
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:21,000
with I think we've got what sounds like a pretty good program and a pretty good plan

738
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,700
and don't want to necessarily create more complications while they're already in the

739
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:27,980
process of that until we get more data to determine if there's something further we should

740
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:31,220
or could be considering doing. So bringing that as an update to the board with similar

741
01:03:31,220 --> 01:03:34,900
information but to really just request to the board to give guidance on moving forward

742
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:37,900
as is or if there's anything like to be introduced and discussed.

743
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:49,220
people had to show ID when they came no they did not have to show ID okay so

744
01:03:49,220 --> 01:03:53,440
anybody could have come from any anywhere yes some stuff okay

745
01:03:56,770 --> 01:04:00,670
so it says

746
01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:04,890
here's probably seven tons of metal are we able to use that in scrap bed and

747
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:10,430
get money back from that or no at this time the metal came from the county we

748
01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:21,010
We had a collaboration with bubble County, which they that was one aspect that they brought in the future, if the board wants to see if that's a solution and we could look into that.

749
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:28,070
But for the most part, the vendor will drop off the roll off and they utilize the scrap themselves to his ankle.

750
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:36,990
Could I have figured out how offset costs or something, maybe recycle the metal and use it for our advantage?

751
01:04:38,270 --> 01:04:44,290
Consider and do a cost, essentially, benefit analysis to see if the time and everything else with it is worth the payoffs.

752
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:49,890
Absolutely. I mean, that's seven times a metal. I don't know what that equates to, but it sounds like a lot.

753
01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:51,230
It can be a lot.

754
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:53,570
Just saying.

755
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:56,390
It's all covered.

756
01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:07,970
It's not nothing. We got, I think, a pretty sizable check for what our collection distribution team did recently to get some of that metal out of the yard, so it's not that idea.

757
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,700
What size check was that? I think it was 14,000.

758
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:22,640
I thought I saw that. Yeah. Okay. So I've spoken to about six people who participated in that and they said it was well organized.

759
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,480
The staff were friendly and directive as far as how to go come in.

760
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,900
Traffic flow pretty good.

761
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:35,640
So they love it.

762
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:41,770
So awesome. I think we like I said, we need to expand it.

763
01:05:41,790 --> 01:05:44,090
So it's just not encompassed over a weekend.

764
01:05:44,290 --> 01:05:48,610
They were just a day because we are a community that works shifts.

765
01:05:49,550 --> 01:05:51,630
And now everybody's got the same days off.

766
01:05:51,630 --> 01:05:59,350
So if we could do that, I think taxpayer would truly appreciate it.

767
01:06:00,010 --> 01:06:01,070
We can have a look at options.

768
01:06:01,250 --> 01:06:04,350
I do know those do come with challenges, but it's not necessarily

769
01:06:05,810 --> 01:06:07,250
uncircumventable, but we can consider those.

770
01:06:07,530 --> 01:06:08,390
Find ways to make sure.

771
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:11,810
You don't necessarily have to be a week long or anything.

772
01:06:11,970 --> 01:06:13,510
You could do it like on a Tuesday, Wednesday.

773
01:06:14,530 --> 01:06:17,250
And the next time you do it, it's on a Thursday Friday.

774
01:06:17,970 --> 01:06:18,430
That's going to do it.

775
01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:18,930
Break it up.

776
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:20,830
You see what I'm saying?

777
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:24,110
So, different days off. Yeah. It's a good idea.

778
01:06:25,850 --> 01:06:34,830
I read through the staff comments and, you know, I enjoyed the lessons learned and it looks like you guys all have a handle on it. So, if you're comfortable doing it again, I'd say do it.

779
01:06:36,290 --> 01:06:45,470
Well, credit goes team. They did an excellent job. Brandy did a great job of directing people. Her name is making new worst times and Marcus is an amazing job of being able to organize and put it on.

780
01:06:45,470 --> 01:06:49,430
And a lot of his team also went out and contributed as well, even folks from our department. So

781
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:52,750
I appreciate everybody's work on it. Happy to come back after the next one and give lessons,

782
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:57,290
learn and see if there's anything further we can do. Great job, team. Thank you.

783
01:07:00,410 --> 01:07:04,390
All right. Next, uh, general discussion regarding

784
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:08,790
published signage for Medal of Honor Boulevard. Chris, I believe you have

785
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:15,350
this on your, your docket. Yep. So drove on Medal of Honor Boulevard,

786
01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:21,410
several times and then the thought dawned on me as I saw I was leaving the city of

787
01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:28,930
Pueblo Pueblo County maintenance picked up and then I got dumped off on Purcell

788
01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:37,510
and nothing said welcome to Pueblo West so that's where the idea came from

789
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:39,310
I

790
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:47,590
haven't put too much thought into it I did look up where district on

791
01:07:47,590 --> 01:07:59,090
property is so it would be feasible to do based on that simple search. And open to discussion

792
01:07:59,090 --> 01:08:06,540
to see if you guys think that's worth it. Yeah. Any thoughts, Genoen?

793
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:16,020
The only thing I don't like is the transition from 45 back to 40 in 55 in the middle. I'm

794
01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:21,780
like just make it one speed all the way. You know what I'm saying? It's like because

795
01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:26,280
everybody's going to push that speed limit and then you got to slow down to 40

796
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,220
right there about a gel. So we're thinking the same kind of sign as

797
01:08:30,220 --> 01:08:35,700
what's off of Highway 50, correct? Right, yeah I agree with the signage being

798
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:40,840
there would be appropriate. Yeah I would say yeah at the top end. Kind of

799
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,780
grand it. This is what our signs look like.

800
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,960
To be consistent, I would say, yeah.

801
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,980
Okay. That was your thought too, correct?

802
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,780
I think so, if that's what we're looking for. I tried to cost, you know, just general search

803
01:08:53,780 --> 01:08:58,020
of like what the cost estimate and it did range from 10,000 to 30,000. I think that

804
01:08:58,020 --> 01:09:01,880
does make it a capital project based on that. And so one of the questions we were just

805
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,840
asked is, is it feasible and appropriate to do within the next budget cycle to

806
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,280
get something to be able to do in 2027 essentially? I do think that would be

807
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,020
consistent with our planning purposes so that way we don't mid-cycle try to add

808
01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:17,700
something to it. So anyway usually talk about budget amendments. So as long as

809
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:21,700
that's comfortable I think that's something we can put into the project. I

810
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:26,180
think the only other conversation that might come up with the board is if we

811
01:09:26,180 --> 01:09:29,660
typically set aside capital project funding. I'm gonna throw out a number here

812
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:33,340
it's hypothetical. If we have two million dollars of projects and two

813
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:37,100
million dollars available and this came on top of that question would be do we

814
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:41,300
find more funding, do we cap it until there's a cycle that works? That's the only question

815
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:45,340
I can anticipate coming up if it does come up. Not say it does, but a question of its

816
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:48,480
prioritization for the 2027 budget. Correct.

817
01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:54,110
Okay. Yeah, we can have that discussion during

818
01:09:54,110 --> 01:10:01,530
the budget meetings. Sounds good this summer. Okay. Oh, the only thing I want to mention,

819
01:10:01,630 --> 01:10:07,810
I apologize, was the sign, the logo. If we add anything to state, you know, welcome

820
01:10:07,810 --> 01:10:11,470
on the public west are, I think it's, oh gosh,

821
01:10:11,810 --> 01:10:14,770
where EGLE soar, I believe is our actual statement.

822
01:10:15,230 --> 01:10:16,410
If we're consistent with anything

823
01:10:16,410 --> 01:10:18,830
that's already either trademarked or consistent,

824
01:10:19,330 --> 01:10:20,650
I don't think there's a lot that we necessarily

825
01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:22,510
have to consider, want to consider,

826
01:10:22,650 --> 01:10:24,550
but if we're looking to put something else there,

827
01:10:24,730 --> 01:10:26,010
I think you had a couple ideas that you had mentioned.

828
01:10:26,090 --> 01:10:27,650
Yeah, a couple ideas, that's what I thought about it.

829
01:10:27,670 --> 01:10:29,810
I was gonna say something X number of parts

830
01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:30,930
and things like that, but then it,

831
01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:33,650
obviously that fluctuates and whatnot,

832
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:34,350
so I didn't wanna.

833
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:41,030
And there's some ideas like numbers that can be probably interchanged a little bit easier.

834
01:10:41,190 --> 01:10:43,090
So those may be work aroundable.

835
01:10:43,170 --> 01:10:48,170
But if you take a statement, let's say with a sunshine, make something up.

836
01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:51,530
One of the thoughts of the board might want to consider is community input or feedback

837
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:52,510
before that sign goes.

838
01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:59,700
I could see like that entrance path to Liberty Point.

839
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:08,200
One on my call, I could say Gateway to the Reservoir, stuff like that, just to lead them.

840
01:11:09,260 --> 01:11:14,320
So we could, like you said, gather input from the community and do a vote on it or something.

841
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:16,000
I think that's great, I did.

842
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:19,480
A whole West, Middle Horizons community.

843
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:27,740
Okay, so I guess a timeline of when that would happen, what are your thoughts?

844
01:11:27,740 --> 01:11:33,980
Yeah, so if I understand guys at least right now based on general agreement is we'll start prepping and getting a cost estimates

845
01:11:33,980 --> 01:11:36,800
I know we're in the capital improvement project cycle right now

846
01:11:37,340 --> 01:11:41,400
Sean still here sorry to add to his plate, but we'll add that to it try to get cost estimates

847
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,440
Understand what the project is and then during the normal budget cycle will have a section that's dedicated to capital projects

848
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:52,220
Yeah, I'll discuss further. It's actually referring to the sorry my fault referring to the questionnaire to the public

849
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:54,160
Like when we would give feedback

850
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:11,280
The question wait till 2027 or would we put it out now so we know let me ask and get some thoughts on staff because I know a couple, especially with parks master plan. I know they've done in the past, but they've gotten that. I don't know what their cycle look like, but we'll try to make it so that way we can get that information while ahead of finalizing the product.

851
01:12:11,420 --> 01:12:12,900
Fair enough. So follow up.

852
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,140
Thank you, sir.

853
01:12:14,980 --> 01:12:16,420
Thank you. Thanks. Good idea, Chris.

854
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:21,580
Next up public comments. Do you have any other public comments?

855
01:12:21,580 --> 01:12:28,420
We've received no public comments. No more. Okay, board member and district manager closing comments who would like to go first?

856
01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:30,920
Me because I thought

857
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,700
We used to do the and you guys are I'm sure you're still working on how to

858
01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:42,240
Get it back

859
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,560
Get it back, but we used to do the updates on the different

860
01:12:50,740 --> 01:12:56,200
additional committees and such like that. So I was wondering, are we moving that to the,

861
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,960
can I just get an update on what we've done with that?

862
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:06,860
I apologize. That was removed from the board agendas as an intent to reduce the scope and size of the board meetings.

863
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,500
But we do need to provide an alternative to be able to say this is where we're going to make those updates.

864
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,980
So it doesn't necessarily take the time within the meeting to do so.

865
01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:21,660
I think it's something we intended to talk about during the mid-year report the July 17th to get a little bit of feedback for it.

866
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,460
So I apologize. I don't think I'd share that information as far as one of our topics.

867
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:30,340
That's all right, because I was just thinking about, like the golf course I haven't heard about the golf course for a while, so I was curious.

868
01:13:31,340 --> 01:13:37,560
I wanted to share, so it's okay on that exact point, like Director Potter, so I'm sorry.

869
01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:42,200
You and I talked a little bit about those kind of frequently asked questions, things

870
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,620
that come up for it, and those updates that you're kind of referring to might be able

871
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:45,380
to help address those.

872
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,440
So I think that's something that will facilitate.

873
01:13:47,820 --> 01:13:52,340
And then what it might look like, and we'll get the board's feedback on this, is if you're

874
01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:56,100
part of that committee sending that update, just kind of like how we've been doing

875
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:59,960
for the admin building or the pool committee, and either assigning a board member to

876
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:03,080
provide that in a certain location so that everybody can see it, and then publishing

877
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,000
on our website so that way people can see it there, too.

878
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,700
Okay, I appreciate bringing out this. Okay, so we'll talk about it mid-term and

879
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,840
next month we'll talk about it and the scope of it and get some feedback on how

880
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,360
to move forward with it. Okay, thanks,

881
01:14:19,980 --> 01:14:24,140
Rodney. I'm having no comment. Thank you.

882
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:31,320
Okay, great. I just want to say at the first of the year in January at our

883
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,680
first meeting that this would be a year of accountability and it's proven

884
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:43,520
to be a year of accountability. My personal take on that is, is that I worked for the government for

885
01:14:44,020 --> 01:14:50,120
many years and I didn't trust the government. And I came down hard on our Metro District

886
01:14:51,460 --> 01:14:59,960
government employees here. And I see a new vision because there's a lot at the end of the

887
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:17,560
Our administration is discovering things, exposing things, and here in the near future it's going to instill a huge amount of public trust in the metro district and how it functions in our community here.

888
01:15:17,980 --> 01:15:26,180
I want you to keep your eyes open. I also want you to come July the 9th to the library. I want that overflow room to be utilized.

889
01:15:26,180 --> 01:15:31,520
Let's get a hundred-plus people on there. I think we're supposed to have three county commissioners in there

890
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,100
so

891
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:43,840
If you could please attend please do that's at 5 30 p.m.. July tonight, and I hope everybody had a good Father's Day weekend

892
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,260
And that's about it. God bless America

893
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,740
So I

894
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,880
Just had a comment about the fire in Colorado City

895
01:15:57,460 --> 01:16:02,220
you know that happened over the weekend. I want to thank all the community members out

896
01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:05,520
there that are supporting one another and helping each other through that.

897
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,280
Hopefully we don't

898
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:15,660
see too much that happened this summer although it is dry. I understand we are not doing

899
01:16:15,660 --> 01:16:21,540
the 4th of July event and it's being moved to potentially December, correct?

900
01:16:24,170 --> 01:16:25,730
And a lot

901
01:16:25,730 --> 01:16:30,090
of other agencies are doing something similar just to mitigate fire danger.

902
01:16:32,290 --> 01:16:38,390
So I appreciate the community for understanding and others probably still some upset people,

903
01:16:38,750 --> 01:16:41,390
but we need to make sure we take care of one another.

904
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:44,740
That's all I have.

905
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:45,400
Christian, do you have anything?

906
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:46,880
I actually do not.

907
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:47,340
Thank you, though.

908
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,220
All right.

909
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,620
So I will make the motion since Bill's not here.

910
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:57,980
I'll go ahead and make the motion to recess our normal meeting and move into the executive

911
01:16:57,980 --> 01:17:06,380
the obsession for the purposes of one, 24-6-4024E, color revised statute determining positions

912
01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:12,260
relative to matters that may be subject to negotiations, developing strategy for negotiations

913
01:17:12,260 --> 01:17:21,560
and instructing negotiators for buyout opportunity in the tower lease, and two, 24-6-4024B, color

914
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,960
revised statute conferences with an attorney for the public entity for the purposes

915
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:32,680
of receiving legal advice on specific legal questions regarding A, matters regarding 567

916
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:38,420
East Tenager Drive, and B, regarding assignment of positions to 6C Oversight Committee and

917
01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:39,640
Rhodes IGA.

918
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:40,880
Second.

919
01:17:42,340 --> 01:17:42,980
All right.

920
01:17:43,060 --> 01:17:46,200
So we have a motion and a second to move into executive session.

921
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:48,380
All those in favor?

922
01:17:48,940 --> 01:17:49,280
Aye.

923
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,560
Any opposed?

924
01:17:51,380 --> 01:17:52,040
All right.

925
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,920
And we are in the executive session with Spive and Rhesus.