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[3:00] Okay. All right. Welcome, everybody. I'd like to call this Public West Metro Board of Directors'
[3:06] meeting to order. It is July, or I'm sorry, June 22nd, 5.30 p.m.
[3:13] Katrina, can I get a roll call?
[3:16] Good evening, Board of Directors. Katrina Peter, Chief Administrative Officer, calling roll.
[3:20] President Axworthy? Here. Director Roberts? Present. Director Pasternak? Here. And we'll
[3:26] let it be known that Vice President Vickers is absent.
[3:30] His absent will be marked as excused
[3:32] and Director Potter is currently running late.
[3:34] He will be arriving shortly.
[3:36] Thank you.
[3:37] He got stuck in traffic.
[3:38] There's an accident up north.
[3:41] Okay.
[3:42] Greg, would you like to lead us in invocation, please?
[3:45] Yes.
[3:47] Everybody bow their heads, please.
[3:49] Lord, I want to thank you for this day,
[3:50] this gathering of people.
[3:53] And I ask that you give us the opportunity
[3:55] to break new ground and make good decisions for our community, the taxpayers, and show
[4:03] them that we have their best interests at heart.
[4:07] We ask that everyone brings pertinent information to this discussion that we're going to have
[4:16] this evening.
[4:18] And Lord, we just ask that you bless everything that we do each and every day, and we thank
[4:23] you for keeping it safe while we're out on the highways and the byways and all
[4:31] these things I ask in your name y'all Wayne Joshua amen thank you Chris would
[4:38] We'd like to lead us in the pledge.
[4:41] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
[4:46] and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation,
[4:50] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[4:55] Thank you.
[4:56] Thank you.
[5:00] All right.
[5:02] At this point, can we get a motion to approve the agenda?
[5:07] I second the motion.
[5:08] motion the motion to approve the agenda as of June the 22nd at 5 33 p.m. so we
[5:17] have a motion second second all that's in favor hi any proposed no moving on
[5:27] public comments do we have any public comments we do not have any public
[5:32] comments submitted in person or signed up in person but we do have one that was
[5:36] submitted online. Okay. This comes from Nikki Hart. She states, Hello, please include the
[5:42] following statement in your public comment record for Monday's discussion regarding road
[5:46] budget allocation. I review the letter to the county regarding road budget allocation
[5:50] for Public West. Will I appreciate the effort to establish a transparent baseline for evaluating
[5:55] road funding equity? Metros current Metros current analysis relies primarily on a per
[6:00] mile allocation model at 33% a miles equals 33% of dollars framing is too simplistic
[6:06] and bias toward a predetermined conclusion without considering how road maintenance and capital investments are actually prioritized.
[6:13] Not all road miles carry the same costs, traffic volume, safety requirements, pavement conditions, drainage needs, or lifecycle obligations.
[6:21] A more complete equity analysis would evaluate factors such as lane miles, road condition, traffic counts, surface type, bridge and drainage infrastructure,
[6:30] and historical investment levels alongside roadway mileage.
[6:33] which a jointly developed data-driven methodology would provide a stronger basis for determining
[6:38] equity than a simple dollars per mile comparison alone.
[6:41] Thank you.
[6:43] Thank you, Katrina.
[6:46] The only thing I'll comment on that one is that we should be having a meeting on July
[6:51] 9th at the Publis Library, and I would love for as many people to be there as possible
[6:58] from our community so that we they can hear the discussion regarding that very topic.
[7:03] All right. Can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda?
[7:10] I make a motion to approve the consent agenda as it stands. Second.
[7:16] We have a motion in second. All those in favor? Aye.
[7:19] Hi.
[7:25] Hi.
[7:26] Any opposed?
[7:28] No.
[7:28] Okay.
[7:28] Moving on.
[7:31] First up, special presentation by Paycock, Dylan Goodman.
[7:40] Thank you very much for having me today.
[7:44] And thank you, Director Roberts, for inviting me to come and give this presentation.
[7:49] My name is Dylan Goodman.
[7:51] I am the Transportation Planner for the Pueblo Area Council of Governments Metropolitan
[7:56] Politan Planning Organization.
[7:58] This is a presentation largely to just give you some information on what we do, what role
[8:05] we serve in the region, and then specifically how we work with our partners in Pueblo West
[8:11] to advance transportation planning and transportation investments in the Pueblo West area.
[8:18] First slide, please.
[8:21] So who and what is PAYCOG?
[8:23] for those who don't know, PECOG, San For, again, Public Area Council of Governments,
[8:28] and a Council of Governments is a very unique and often not well-known voluntary association
[8:35] of local and regional governments that largely came about during the 50s and 60s during America's
[8:42] suburbanization boom, where you started having cities shift from more monolithic structures
[8:50] into a more patchwork of suburbs and communities all operating on a single
[8:54] network and seeing more and more shared issues crop up. They tend to be governed
[9:00] by a board of directors that represent the involved governing bodies and the
[9:04] PAKOG Board of Directors is very unique because it isn't just made up of the
[9:09] traditional local governments such as cities, counties and metro districts but
[9:14] ours also includes our school districts and the Salt Creek Sanitation and Board of Waterworks
[9:24] as represented members on our Board of Directors.
[9:29] Local governments, when forming a council of government, will often distribute responsibilities
[9:35] up to the regional level.
[9:37] And in the case of the Public Area Council of Governments, we have primary administrative
[9:42] of oversight over regional transportation planning,
[9:45] environmental, and water quality issues as well.
[9:48] Next slide, please.
[9:52] For another acronym, we have the MPO,
[9:54] or the Metropolitan Planning Organization.
[9:57] MPOs are federally mandated organizations
[10:00] that are established in census designated
[10:04] urbanized areas that have a population of over 50,000
[10:10] people.
[10:11] They are given oversight on coordinating regional transportation, planning, plans, goals, projects.
[10:21] They are really there to make sure that all of these individual patchworks that are starting to form larger urban areas
[10:29] don't create conflicting plans, and they also help to create a – what's the word?
[10:39] They help to pool resources so that you don't have ten different planning agencies and instead only need one to oversee a whole area.
[10:48] Now, our primary functions are to program, plan, and monitor the state and federal funding that comes into our region, draft our regional transportation plans,
[10:58] and help to set our region's performance measures and goals, which get voted on at pay cog meetings, as well as to help facilitate coordination
[11:06] nation and conversation between our local governments and transportation-related departments around
[11:13] the metropolitan area and our transportation planning region.
[11:23] So the three C's in planning are Continuing Comprehensive and Cooperative.
[11:29] These are written into law from transportation reconciliation bills passed at the federal
[11:37] level that establish the effective goals of metropolitan planning which is to have a continuing
[11:44] account of the planning process, to have a comprehensive plan for our whole region and
[11:50] to form cooperative bonds between our local agencies and jurisdictions that push forward
[11:56] the goals of the entire region.
[11:58] Now the MPO is first and foremost a coordinating body.
[12:01] It is important for us to fill in communication gaps that often form between our local agencies.
[12:08] These communication gaps are not just on the – are not just between our local governments
[12:17] but can also form within them.
[12:19] And so we tend to act as a nervous system that helps to distribute information around
[12:25] the region.
[12:26] We really support coordination and transparency between the MPO and our local agencies as that helps us create an economy of scale when working on and coordinating projects.
[12:38] It also helps us pursue federal and state grants as they tend to favor projects that are built on interdepartmental and intergovernment collaboration.
[12:46] And our long-range plans in general are better, which if you don't remember, about a year
[12:52] back, year and a half back, I came and gave a presentation on our long-range planning
[12:57] process, but coordination helps us create the best long-range plan possible to serve
[13:03] our whole region.
[13:06] Now the MPO also helps to provide support through research, data gathering, as well
[13:12] is exploring topics which will help our local agencies make more informed transportation
[13:17] related decisions. A good example would be policy research on infrastructure changes that
[13:23] might help reduce the heat footprints that urban environments often see. Next slide please.
[13:30] Thank you. We have four, technically five primary documents that we work on. The
[13:37] The first one is our Unified Planning Work Program.
[13:41] You're going to notice throughout all of this that we really love our acronyms.
[13:45] So the Unified Planning Work Program, or the UPWP, is a federally required document that
[13:51] lists all of our work tasks and our annual budget.
[13:54] Then we have our Transportation Improvement Program.
[13:58] This is a document that we refresh annually.
[14:01] It is a planning document that helps to keep track of all of the federal and
[14:05] and state funds that flow into our region and make sure that they stay reconciled with
[14:11] the state transportation improvement program or the STIP.
[14:18] Our primary document is our long-range transportation plan or the LRTP.
[14:23] This is a plan that looks 25 years out and sets our region's performance measures.
[14:29] Our goals has a list of the aspirational projects that our local jurisdictions hope
[14:34] to achieve in that timeframe, and sets our greenhouse gas performance measures that help
[14:40] us stay aligned with the state GHG trajectory.
[14:45] We also have the bike and pedestrian master plan, which sets the standards for our multimodal
[14:50] infrastructure throughout the region, helps to identify future trails, and lays out
[14:55] the city and county wide active transportation network.
[14:58] This is a plan.
[15:00] And that we really collaborate with Pueblo Weston as, you know, we want to support your
[15:05] trail network and really help to see it continue to grow.
[15:10] We also have, it's not listed here, a fifth document called our public participation plan.
[15:15] This is a plan that just outlines how the MPO itself will engage in public participation
[15:21] and what that process looks like for our planning process.
[15:24] It has recently expanded, though, to include guides and best practices for local jurisdictions
[15:31] to take on how to improve their own public participation process and really just help
[15:37] our local agencies have strong, high-quality public engagement.
[15:42] Next slide, please.
[15:44] I want to touch on the Multimodal Options and Mitigation Fund and the Carbon Reduction
[15:50] Program.
[15:50] program. These are two funding pools that are both state and federal, respectively, that
[16:00] the MPO has oversight of and distributes to our local agencies through a competitive grant
[16:08] process to help fund local projects. These funds can be used in a variety of ways. They
[16:14] have helped to fund trails and roadway improvements, done project design and planning,
[16:19] including the design for the Industrial and Purcell Intersection Project.
[16:28] Safety improvements around the region has been used to install EV chargers in public spaces
[16:34] and has a wide variety of more projects it can be used for.
[16:38] Next slide, please.
[16:41] Now I want to touch into how we support and work with Pueblo West as it's a very
[16:45] important relationship for us.
[16:48] One way that we provide support universally is through writing letters of support to our
[16:54] four local agencies whenever they go after state and federal grants.
[16:59] We also have performed walk audits to help engage the community in the past, including
[17:04] a walk audit specifically of McCulloch and Spalding to look at how that intersection
[17:10] intersection could be made safer for pedestrians, cyclists, and car users, as it is a generally
[17:18] problematic intersection.
[17:20] We also collect user accounts for trails around the region, and on request have performed
[17:25] those accounts for Pueblo West as well.
[17:28] We help to fund roadway improvements and studies alongside Pueblo County.
[17:33] And we have, of course, really sought Pueblo West's engagement for public engagement in
[17:40] our core documents to make sure that we're supporting Pueblo West's needs and improvements
[17:46] in our long-range transportation plan and our bicycle and pedestrian master plan.
[17:52] We also have the data that maps out the region's trail networks and help to work
[17:58] with Parks and Rec to help plan out your proposed trails.
[18:03] Next slide, please.
[18:05] This is just a list of projects that we have either helped to fund in whole or in part
[18:11] around the Pueblo West region.
[18:16] The SDS Trail Project was funded with MMLF funding.
[18:22] The Joe Martinez Trail Project was in part funded with MMLF funding.
[18:26] funding. The Future Medal of Honor Trail is also funded with MMOF funding, and the Civic
[18:33] Center Park project was funded in our latest round of multimodal options, multimodal options
[18:41] and mitigation funding. Now it is important to note on these funds that they are currently
[18:49] not in high availability. The carbon reduction program fund from the federal government is
[18:57] currently under, was released with the IJA or the Inflation Reduction Act as a part of
[19:11] that overall infrastructure spending and it is currently not looking to be reallocated
[19:18] with this next transportation bill coming through the House and Senate.
[19:25] And our MMO funds is guaranteed through the state, but due to the state's current budgetary
[19:32] issues, it has come under the eyes of our House and Senate for reductions until our
[19:46] state budget has balanced out properly. I will now accept any questions you have.
[19:55] Any questions?
[19:59] Thanks Dylan. Appreciate it. I didn't know that about some of the
[20:03] Pueblo West stuff so thanks for sharing that. Last time you came there was a
[20:08] website with the where you you can drop pins on certain intersections yes problem
[20:17] intersections is that still in use that you know over so that map is no longer
[20:24] accepting any investments as that was a part of our long-range transportation
[20:29] plans public engagement to my knowledge the map should still be up and
[20:35] able to be accessed on the website pay cog moves the region and all of the feedback we
[20:40] received on that should be located in our long range transportation plan which can be found
[20:46] at the website pay cog moves the region dot com or at pay cog dot net.
[20:54] Okay.
[20:54] Thank you.
[20:56] We also do, I did not account for this as we recently expanded our public engagement
[21:03] timeline for this project after I made this presentation, but we are currently
[21:09] performing public engagement for our Bicycle and Pedestrian Master Plan, which
[21:15] we're currently working on updating, and links to that can be found on
[21:23] paycog.net. We have very similar maps and surveys to what we released last
[21:28] time and would love to see public less feedback on that. It recently got pushed
[21:34] to, I believe, the end of June for how long we will be accepting feedback on that
[21:40] for those maps and on that survey. I apologize for not bringing materials
[21:47] with me for it this time.
[21:51] I will take a look at the website and find out more
[21:54] information. I appreciate it. Any other questions? No, thank you for the update.
[21:58] And if you are interested, this is a one pager that we made for pay cog and MPO activities.
[22:06] This was more made for our board of directors orientation, but I'm happy to give you all
[22:11] a copy as well as a one of my cars.
[22:16] That way you can contact me in the MPO and if you're interested you have this.
[22:21] And any extras I will leave on the table.
[22:24] Thank you.
[22:25] Thank you very much.
[22:25] Of course, thank you very much for having me again and thank you for being very present
[22:32] members in our community.
[22:34] We love our working relationship with your parks and rec department and we love seeing
[22:38] you.
[22:38] Carol's pretty awesome.
[22:40] Thank you.
[22:44] Okay.
[22:45] Next on the agenda is guidance.
[22:48] Number one is strategic priority number four slash 13 master planning and community
[22:53] pool presented by Carol Cosby.
[22:57] Hi Carol.
[22:58] and
[23:08] Kurt Long. Sorry, Kurt. Yeah, it's okay. Good evening, President X, we're the
[23:13] members of the board. Kurt Long and I are here tonight to present a long-term
[23:22] okay, where's our slight person, long-term recreation campus vision for Assembly
[23:27] Drive and North McCulloch Boulevard property. This is the property where the
[23:33] community indoor pool is planned. As we have continued looking at the site staff
[23:42] believe there are maybe a longer a larger long-term opportunity to develop this
[23:49] area and a centralized recreation campus in Public West. It's just the
[23:55] beginning phases. It's just a vision that we've all discussed in the
[24:00] department and we're not we're not we don't want any approval tonight or any
[24:08] action all we want is to bring to the board what our ideas are in Parks and
[24:13] Rec.
[24:18] The purpose of the presentation is again to share a long-term vision of
[24:23] the site. We want to discuss future recreation needs and look at
[24:28] potential opportunities and get feedback from our board on whether
[24:34] staff should continue exploring this concept. We also have talked about future partnerships.
[24:42] Staff has been approached by the community, a couple of community stakeholders and private
[24:49] groups about possible recreational related opportunities. And before any of those conversations
[24:56] go too far, we felt that it was important that we brought it to you, showed you our
[25:02] vision and talk to you about it and got some feedback from our board.
[25:08] Why this
[25:08] discussion matters, and I'll do most of the talking, is because Pueblo West
[25:16] continues to grow and the demand put on our department is heavy at this time
[25:23] and we're looking at recreational opportunities so we can increase our
[25:29] service to our community. We're already seeing limitations with our current
[25:33] facilities, especially the indoor space, which is very limited, our athletic field, which
[25:39] are heavily used by our sports as well as practice and our adult.
[25:48] And this site gives actually the district a chance to be proactive instead of reacting
[25:53] later when space becomes even more limited.
[25:56] So we can start thinking now of what could be put on this property.
[26:00] This does not mean anything would happen right away and it simply means that we're just trying
[26:06] to plan wisely for the future for our community.
[26:14] This vision connects directly to the Parks and Recreation Master Plan.
[26:18] We always talk about the Master Plan, but the Master Plan was last updated on 2024
[26:23] and we do a great job in our department following that plan and trying to use that
[26:29] as our vital source to follow through with our department.
[26:35] It identified several priorities, including more indoor recreation,
[26:40] more athletic fields, better access to youth and adult sports,
[26:44] family recreation destinations, and facilities that
[26:48] support our future growth. This campus concept is
[26:54] one possible way to begin addressing several of those priorities
[26:57] in one location. This is not just about adding buildings or fields, it is about
[27:06] looking at long-term needs for Pueblo West and making sure district-owned
[27:11] property is used in a way that provides the greatest community benefit. At this
[27:17] time, Kurt will talk more about our recreation challenges and what we are
[27:22] seeing from the programming side. Thanks Carol. Good evening board. So from the
[27:29] programming side one of our biggest challenges is indoor space. Right now we
[27:34] rely heavily on our partnership with District 70 and being able to use their
[27:39] gyms for our programs. We are very grateful for that partnership and we
[27:44] have a great relationship with District 70. Without that we would not be
[27:49] able to run indoor programs because we just have no facility. So I do want to
[27:54] emphasize how much we do appreciate that. But that does come with challenges. A lot
[28:02] of times they have the priority for their, you know, sports, their activities, a
[28:08] lot of stuff they have going on. So that really hinders our ability to
[28:12] schedule, especially evenings, weekends, when we want to have our programs. So the
[28:19] issue isn't really that we can't run the programs. The issue is our ability to
[28:23] grow at clinics, host tournaments, and create consistent programs and schedules.
[28:30] A dedicated indoor rec space would give us that opportunity to expand and grow
[28:35] and just offer more to meet that community demand.
[28:44] Programs most
[28:45] Most affected include youth basketball, volleyball, pickleball, indoor soccer, again hosting camps
[28:52] and clinics, and adult sports leagues.
[28:56] And one good example, we run adult volleyball at the middle schools during weeknights.
[29:05] And because of their schedule, you know, with sports and everything, we're not able
[29:09] to start our activities until after 7.30.
[29:12] So that's really just a tough schedule for our participants to start that late.
[29:27] We are seeing the same type of challenge with our outdoor sports.
[29:30] Currently the Parks Department has three soccer fields and three softball fields at Lavel Park.
[29:37] Those fields are heavily used for practices, tournaments, R games, and just general public use.
[29:47] As participation grows, practice and space become harder to schedule.
[29:52] We see a lot of interest in practice times.
[29:58] There's just really nowhere.
[30:00] for teams to practice in Pueblo in general, the whole area. So having another facility that
[30:09] offers a space like that for the community would be a huge benefit.
[30:19] So this slide shows
[30:20] just the overall long-term campus vision. I'm not sure if everyone could see that site
[30:27] map there, but that's just a rough layout of what we're thinking for that site.
[30:36] The
[30:37] community indoor pool would remain as the anchor facility. Around that, the site could
[30:42] potentially include indoor rec center, baseball softball complex, multi-purpose athletic
[30:49] fields, family rec areas, and shared parking and support facilities. The important point
[30:56] is, again, this is just a conceptual, very rough site plan. The purpose is to show
[31:03] So what may be possible over time if the district plans the property as a complete, excuse me, a complete rec campus instead of looking at each facility separately as we move on.
[31:16] Development would happen in phases and that would depend on board action and direction, funding, grants, partnerships, and community priorities.
[31:25] We are always seeking grants, so that could be a possibility down the road if we could seek out a grant for something like this to expand on.
[31:39] The community indoor pool is the anchor in this area. The conceptual design for this is a six-lane lap pool, party room and spectator seating, locker rooms, lobby space, and then room for future expansion.
[31:59] It does, the pool does address the longstanding community need and is already, again, the
[32:04] main focus of this site.
[32:07] And what we're discussing tonight would be the surrounding area of the pool.
[32:11] So the conceptual design that was the prior slide, again, we just drew out some things
[32:18] where it would fit on the site and made sense so that if individuals were at the pool
[32:27] parents could go out to a picnic area. So it would be on all one general location
[32:34] where it would serve everyone at one time.
[32:44] If we're looking at an indoor rec
[32:46] center we could you know offer something that has multi-purpose courts, two to
[32:54] three multi-purpose courts that support basketball, volleyball, pickable and then
[32:59] And maybe a potential indoor turf area for indoor soccer, flag football to run clinics
[33:07] and camps and indoor tournaments.
[33:10] I think the real value of this type of facility is just flexibility.
[33:15] We could do so much if we had our own facility like this as far as programming.
[33:20] So I think that is really huge.
[33:23] It would also reduce our reliance on school gyms because they have a lot going on as
[33:28] well.
[33:28] and it would really just give parks and rec more control over scheduling and future program growth.
[33:38] The outdoor sports facilities could potentially include a three to four field baseball softball complex,
[33:46] multi-purpose athletic fields, just a large open area that we could, you know, make soccer fields,
[33:53] football fields, and just offer different outdoor programs.
[34:00] The main point is that additional outdoor sports space would help address current field limitations.
[34:06] As we mentioned, our fields are heavily used, so it would take the demand off our current facilities
[34:11] so we could, you know, maintain them a little better when they're not being used so much throughout the year.
[34:22] Family recreation is a vision of ours too.
[34:26] We always hear there's not enough parks.
[34:28] parks. This would be a great opportunity for a north side park, which would include playgrounds,
[34:36] open lawn areas, shaded areas, community gathering spaces, and family focused area for everyone
[34:45] to use. Sure, we're talking all about sports, but we want families to come and enjoy it
[34:51] as well.
[34:55] Why does this site work? Well, actually, board, you picked this site.
[35:01] That's exactly why.
[35:03] This site was picked when we were looking at the two different sites for the community
[35:09] pool and we did share a vision at that time and so did you guys on, you know, if we put
[35:16] it here it would provide a north side park.
[35:19] We have a lot of room to expand and it makes a lot of sense.
[35:24] It's 62 acres and it's a big advantage in this area because, again, it's all in one location.
[35:33] It makes it easier for people to go to, but it also is a benefit for Parks and Rec with
[35:41] our limited staff that we have an area that we can be in one area and be able to maintain
[35:46] everything and not so spread out that we're always going somewhere else.
[35:50] So
[35:56] we really think the potential community benefits are huge.
[36:00] A WREC campus could expand recreation access.
[36:04] It would create more year-round programming opportunities.
[36:07] Really help us support tournaments and events for the community.
[36:11] Help local businesses by bringing in more activity into Public West.
[36:16] It could also support long-term WREC sustainability
[36:19] for Parks and WREC. From the programming side
[36:23] It would give us more flexibility to serve the youth, adults, families, and community groups.
[36:29] And the long-term benefit is not just more facilities.
[36:33] It's better, you know, scheduling and stronger recreation systems for Pueblo West.
[36:44] Partnerships are a very important part of this discussion.
[36:48] Again, we mentioned earlier, staff has been approached by a couple of partners who are very interested in providing recreation out here.
[36:57] It could be a very positive opportunity for our department.
[37:03] Future partnerships should support what our community needs are and protect parks and
[37:08] recreation programming, access and maintain affordability and accessibility.
[37:13] We don't want to enter into any partnerships without discussion with the board and knowing
[37:20] your vision as well and what priorities are for this property.
[37:25] And that's kind of why we're here tonight, just to, again, make you aware of what our
[37:32] vision is, what we look at, what we know our demand is through our programming, what
[37:44] we can't do, what we can do, because, again, we don't have the facilities to do it.
[37:51] The important takeaways, again, this is the early conceptual vision.
[37:54] No final decisions tonight.
[38:00] Again, it would be a phased overtime project.
[38:03] And we're just seeking board feedback and direction on moving forward.
[38:14] With that, I'm asking board for any feedback discussion.
[38:18] First time we got left, Christian.
[38:22] Time three minutes.
[38:24] Oh, okay.
[38:25] Do you want to go around the table?
[38:28] Christian, you want to go first?
[38:30] I mean, that's the reason I picked this site was for this moment, basically, to kick something like this off.
[38:40] So I'm in favor of it overall.
[38:45] I'm open to any partnerships.
[38:47] I think, ironically, I said to Christian, what about partnerships like the day before the agenda came out?
[38:52] So I would be open to hearing what anybody has to offer in terms of partnership.
[39:00] I wouldn't shut the door on anyone.
[39:06] And I suppose at the point that you think it's pertinent that we should know how that conversation is going, you could bring it to us.
[39:18] What amenities should be prioritized?
[39:19] I know that gym space as far as basketball courts is extremely limited in the county, much like indoor pools.
[39:26] So I know people play a lot of times in churches.
[39:33] I know the Mesa Rec Center gets a ton of use.
[39:36] I know the Y is extremely overcrowded for youth basketball.
[39:44] And again, I know that the teams there are always
[39:47] looking to add more practice times and the Y just can't.
[39:52] So people go to wherever they can with whatever
[39:56] relationships they have and try to get into church gyms
[39:59] and things like that. So I'm certain that space would get use. So yeah, I think you guys should
[40:11] definitely continue the planning of it.
[40:19] I don't know that I have anything for concerns at this point,
[40:21] but that's my take.
[40:25] Rodney. I appreciate you guys for thinking on this. These are one of our
[40:34] priorities and thinking about grants, whatever grants we can get, even public
[40:40] donations, so on and so forth, maybe set up something where the public can go
[40:46] online and contribute in some other way. I understand they say they can
[40:51] contribute in taxes but you know we're limited so if they want to donate
[40:55] more or give more and have the public be able to donate in some form or fashion to help.
[41:04] Because this obviously costs money.
[41:09] Enforcement things we have to do in this field is prioritize and where we spend that money.
[41:15] And I think this, I think should be a priority personally because we do need more stuff here
[41:21] for family recreation and so on and so forth and we're set up for it, we just need to know how to
[41:27] get it going.
[41:31] I think maybe getting some good fields going and stuff, what kind of grass to use
[41:38] or this low maintenance grass kind of stuff doesn't take as much water, that kind of thing to
[41:44] utilize because it's easy to move dirt and make fields. It's a little harder for buildings and
[41:49] construction so whatever we can do to maybe see the the public the public can
[41:56] see us moving forward with some things in this area possibly but yeah I really
[42:04] appreciate your forward thinking and hopefully we can come up with some where
[42:09] the public is takes interest in it and possible donations so thank you thank
[42:15] Thank you.
[42:15] Greg?
[42:17] I like the whole idea.
[42:20] The whole community family thing.
[42:23] Did you have a community center in there for like, you know, like during the day, you
[42:30] got retirees and stuff that can come in and they can have like board games or chess,
[42:37] checkers, cards, or a multi-function community center?
[42:42] We did not have that because when we first looked at community center quite a
[42:48] while back their pool, the gymnasium, everything was put into one. However if we
[42:55] build it correctly you can partition off some of the courts where you can do
[43:01] some of that. You don't have to use all the courts just for sports you can do
[43:05] other there's other opportunities for that. That is one thing we are
[43:10] lacking out here is senior programming because we really don't have any place to
[43:14] have that and that that is one of our lacking programming. I definitely like
[43:21] to not only for seniors but for kids and family have the opportunity to
[43:25] participate in different programs because not everybody's interested in sports.
[43:31] That is correct. Right? So we can broaden our horizons and expand upon
[43:39] on that so that everybody gets a taste of the pie, per se,
[43:45] as far as our recreation area of 62 acres there.
[43:50] I think that'd be great in the future.
[43:52] So I like y'all's planning.
[43:55] And you guys have been doing good work.
[43:57] I appreciate everything.
[43:59] Thank you.
[44:01] I agree that's a good conceptual plan as well.
[44:05] Again, that's why that space was chosen,
[44:06] so that we can expand upon our parks direct footprint.
[44:12] Let's see.
[44:14] We've also discussed just putting it out there.
[44:17] We've also discussed repurposing of the old swimming pool,
[44:20] so I want to make sure that we have those discussions
[44:22] and our budget meetings coming up as well.
[44:27] As far as looking to the future and concerns,
[44:30] I know if we have a conceptual plan,
[44:33] and it might, we have to look at the longevity of what we build, the lifespan, the degradation,
[44:41] et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, if we know that the conceptual plan in its entirety
[44:47] is going to take 20, 25 years to complete, is a parking lot. Do we build a huge parking
[44:52] lot for the conceptual plan to fit everything knowing that it's going to degrade over
[44:59] 20-year period.
[45:00] You know what I mean? So we need to balance those types of things as we look forward to
[45:04] manage costs. Other than that, that would be my only caution moving forward. In the end,
[45:14] assuming that we can maintain the fire sales tax, it would be my goal, and this would be
[45:21] after I'm gone, I'm sure, it would be my goal to divert a portion of some of the general
[45:28] fund money that the fire currently gets to Parks and Rec to help execute the master plan.
[45:35] That's always been kind of a vision of mine moving forward if we were to extend the fire
[45:40] stales tax plan.
[45:42] They can still fire, the department can still grow, they can still maintain, yet we can
[45:46] accomplish what we need to do for our constituents and our community in terms of Parks and
[45:51] Rec, so without further taxation.
[45:59] That's all I've got. Anyone else?
[46:02] We appreciate the board's time tonight and have a good evening.
[46:07] Thank you, Carol. Thank you.
[46:08] Thank you, Kurt.
[46:08] Thank you, Carol. See you guys on Thursday.
[46:14] Okay. Next up is Strategic Priority Number Four, Master Planning, Fire Station One,
[46:20] and Schematic Design Update by Brian Caserta.
[46:24] It's not Brian here.
[46:26] It's not Brian.
[46:27] It's not Brian.
[46:28] Sorry about that.
[46:31] Last minute change.
[46:42] President Axler, the members of the board, I am not Chief Casserta.
[46:46] Deputy Chief Tim Mitchell.
[46:48] Chief had something come up that he had to go to relatively quickly.
[46:53] So you have me.
[46:54] So, we're here to sometime back, the board had asked that when we got to the schematic
[47:00] design of Fire Station One's edition that we make a presentation.
[47:05] So, we're here to make that presentation, not looking for any decisions, any decisions
[47:12] to be made, anything else other than that, other than the presentation.
[47:16] So, that's really what we got.
[47:22] So just glancing through the documents we were looking at a stake building versus a metal correct
[47:29] so what are your thoughts on so based on what we have discovered and what we've found out and
[47:34] kind of puts the feelers out that the metal building would be the most cost effective
[47:38] option and that would be the decision that would be the direction we go it was close
[47:42] though, right, if I remember correctly.
[47:44] We're not going into metal, are we?
[47:46] Yeah, pre-engineered.
[47:47] Oh, okay.
[47:48] Sorry.
[47:49] Sorry.
[47:49] I apologize.
[47:50] No, you're okay.
[47:50] What was your question?
[47:51] I'm sorry.
[47:51] The costs were fairly close.
[47:53] They were relatively close, yeah.
[47:56] There were some other factors involved.
[47:59] I don't exactly have the numbers in front of me, because I was not prepared for this.
[48:03] But yeah, they were close, but I would say not close enough for us to make a decision
[48:07] to go with the stick print.
[48:09] Okay.
[48:12] My concern is, in the design phase, how close are we to putting it out for FRP?
[48:22] I don't know if you know if Toppy had a fifth share in any timeline for it.
[48:27] I will share that.
[48:28] I understand where the question is coming from as we're talking about the admin building
[48:31] design.
[48:32] It's come up with giving us a time frame of, I think, November-ish to be able to
[48:36] put it out for an ISP invitation for bid.
[48:38] which gets them on the docket essentially with contractors later in the year and
[48:43] the idea is or the hope is more advantageous because of the level of work
[48:48] they may be doing at the time means that they may be hungrier in their words
[48:51] for those types of projects at the end of the year and there might be cost
[48:54] savings associated with it as opposed to delaying into the next year and I
[48:58] thought I remember that we were looking at a similar sometime in the fall
[49:01] similar IFB or starting that process if that's my recollection is correct
[49:06] I believe that to be correct. Okay, we can confirm the dates just to be sure but I think that's what we talked about last week
[49:11] When this came up as well
[49:13] Okay
[49:16] They sounds great and they're farther ahead than obviously the design for the admin building as we just started meeting a couple weeks ago
[49:22] So that is good news. Hopefully we can get some cost savings on it, too
[49:28] I don't know I
[49:30] Don't share, you know, we've been told
[49:33] When they go put it out for bid and stuff, they're actually experiencing some competition
[49:38] and some cost change.
[49:40] So I mean cost savings.
[49:42] So yeah, that's great whenever we can save money for the taxpayers and so thank you.
[49:50] We're actually moving into design development at this point.
[49:54] So we're about 60% complete on design.
[49:59] So we're well ahead of the admin building.
[50:03] So you're not in the landscaping place yet?
[50:05] Not yet.
[50:06] Okay.
[50:07] Thank you.
[50:10] Any other questions?
[50:15] Okay.
[50:16] Appreciate the update.
[50:17] Thank you for your time.
[50:18] Thanks for staying in.
[50:19] Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that.
[50:21] Sorry, Tim.
[50:22] It was last minute decision, too.
[50:24] So it surprised me as well.
[50:25] Thank you very much.
[50:26] Thanks, sir.
[50:27] You did good.
[50:28] Thank you.
[50:29] Thanks, sir.
[50:30] All right.
[50:31] Next up, strategic crowding number four, master planning discussion regarding track 317 presented
[50:36] by Sean Winters.
[50:40] Good
[50:46] evening, President Daxworthy, members of the board, Sean Winters, director of
[50:51] operational support.
[50:53] So here tonight to give you an update on track 317, I think the last board meeting
[51:01] the board has asked us to approach the county and see if we could negotiate some
[51:08] of the terms and conditions of the vacation plat. So we have started with
[51:14] beginning those discussions with Pueblo County planning and development and we
[51:19] will continue to coordinate with them along with Road and Bridge and a copy
[51:24] of that email to the planning planning and development is included in your
[51:28] packet. One of the things that we had also discussed at the last meeting was
[51:33] the board's desire to have a single access point along the Bacullo Boulevard
[51:38] near Enchanted Hills. Staff also at that time identified that this location
[51:44] might not meet Pueblo County Roadway design standards creating any approval
[51:48] challenge. But we do have an alternative location that we would like for you
[51:54] to consider in Katrina if we go to the aerial view.
[52:03] It's towards towards the
[52:05] end.
[52:09] There we go. So this alternative access point is north of McCulloch Boulevard
[52:17] on Rancho Vista. So that is the area that is clouded in yellow. The other area
[52:24] that was preferred by the board is an area clouded in red, which is close to Enchanted
[52:32] Hills, but not really. It's a man-made trail that's been made by unauthorized vehicular access.
[52:42] This alternative location is in close proximity of Enchanted Hills and McCulloch,
[52:49] but it would be probably more acceptable to the county as it would meet their
[52:54] roadway criteria placing that access on a lower classified roadway. As you can see
[53:01] there's already some some access being taken there more likely by utility
[53:07] companies there I know we have a couple of boxes in there but we do have an
[53:12] easement that runs through there that we did retain through the plat vacation
[53:18] process and we thought that we would bring this this alternative up for the
[53:24] board to consider and so this is one of the things that we would like to get your
[53:28] feedback on. Do we want to negotiate the variants for the location on McCulloch
[53:34] and Enchanted Hills or does the board want to consider the nearby
[53:41] compliant alternative?
[53:45] I may want to jump in before I do.
[53:49] Go ahead Brian I'll
[53:50] to have a team of you later so my initial thought was that we need to we need to
[53:58] try to win over the county with the original request before we look at
[54:04] alternatives and before we seek an alternative especially in that location
[54:08] I think we need to talk to those neighbors along that road to see if
[54:13] that if they have any concerns or anything in that area as well the the
[54:19] The biggest reason why I felt that the access off of McCulloch would work best is because
[54:26] it would also solve that problem with people driving along that dirt road where they're
[54:30] not supposed to be in order to drive along it and dump their trash and party down in
[54:35] the culvert there.
[54:36] Yeah.
[54:37] One of the things that we're also looking at, in addition to having a singular location,
[54:42] now that we're building just one location, we may have some funding that would completely
[54:48] fence the entire parcel and then that way we can focus that that access in one
[54:56] location or not have any unauthorized areas. So you say we wouldn't be redoing
[55:03] any of the cul-de-sac or anything like that? Well that is part of the
[55:06] negotiation if we can if we can prove to the county that we are going to not
[55:12] encourage people to access in these cul-de-sac locations and force them
[55:17] to access over here then the need to reconstruct those cul-de-sacs to new
[55:25] standards may not be necessary because we're not introducing any more traffic
[55:30] there than we had before. Okay, that makes sense. So you're talking like Jane Lee?
[55:36] No, I'm thinking like four wire fence, probably two strands smooth as
[55:42] opposed to barbed wire because barbed wire catches lots of stuff, bags and
[55:46] tumbleweeds and stuff like that. No raise or water.
[55:49] Do you mind? No raise or water.
[55:51] Both for the President and Sean, do you mind if I add just a little bit of clarity for where this is coming from?
[55:56] Yes, go for it.
[55:56] As far as it?
[55:58] Yeah, so the idea of what we talked about the last and the guidance was for the staff to start engaging with the county
[56:04] because we recognized, based on the vacation, it called that McCulloch Access, which we call Enchanted Hills
[56:11] based on its previous name, as an illegal access that had to be removed.
[56:15] Because I was in the vacation documents, it's going to require either the Board of County Commissioners,
[56:21] Planning Commissioners, County Planning and Development to overturn or allow some type of acceptance for that.
[56:26] As the staff is already moving towards trying to figure out what is that process to make that request,
[56:31] one of the steps that came in is we're going to have to negotiate with County Road and Bridge
[56:34] to determine what the requirements are ahead of doing all of that, and I guess not ahead of it,
[56:39] But in line with doing all that, Shaw and I identified this and I think it's at least
[56:44] a very considerable alternative if either that did not work out or as a way to be able to,
[56:50] I think, still meet the request of the principle of moving away from the cul-de-sacs, becoming
[56:55] those hammerhead parking lots, but still gaining that centralized access, technically
[57:00] the ranchovista access is lower classification than McCulloch, which is the reason why
[57:07] they're diverting us away from there.
[57:08] And if that could be a suitable alternative that gets it away from the cul-de-sacs in the hammerhead
[57:12] While also accessing it in a place that doesn't have to go through the county commissioners to maybe
[57:19] Approve of that that might be the alternative. That's what that's coming from. Yeah. No, I totally understand where it's coming from
[57:25] We we discussed at the last meeting
[57:27] It's just it doesn't make sense that we can't build off from the Colic
[57:33] It doesn't matter what authority says you can or cannot do because it's not a bad idea to question it and say why or provide some sort of reasonable explanation as to what they're finding is.
[57:50] It just doesn't make sense why you would cancel any access onto that property from the call. It just doesn't.
[57:58] There's more traffic off of or going through, say, part of the emergency room that's right
[58:07] next to another intersection.
[58:08] And there's, I think this would be a lot safer than having an intersection right after a hill
[58:13] right there.
[58:14] And they approve that access.
[58:15] And it's on term.
[58:16] Yeah.
[58:16] So I don't understand their rationale.
[58:19] And because I don't understand their rationale, I think we should just move forward with
[58:22] the letter knowing that we have a backup plan is great.
[58:25] but before we can move with that backup plan I think we should talk with those
[58:29] homeowners on that room. Sean in regards to the fencing how much of that
[58:35] fencing is going to restrict public access because I mean right now people
[58:42] who live on that streets with the cul-de-sacs can access it from their
[58:46] into their street are they still gonna be able to do that? If my way of
[58:52] thinking would be no. Because part of convincing the county that we're not going to increase
[59:01] traffic into one area saying that we're not going to allow access and we're going to have
[59:07] a singular point of access over on McCulloch or off of Rancho Vista one of the two. If
[59:13] If you leave multiple areas open, now you have a less defendable perimeter.
[59:23] Yeah.
[59:23] I got the same problem, I heard.
[59:24] Yeah.
[59:25] Right.
[59:27] So it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot of money on fencing if you're going
[59:31] to let people in.
[59:32] No.
[59:32] Totally get it.
[59:32] That's why I asked that question just to clarify it.
[59:35] I do love the idea about fencing.
[59:36] I think that was a great compromise, utilize the money instead of doing the cul-de-sacs
[59:42] to utilize it to fence the yard. I think that's a great good idea.
[59:47] Just remember, as we come up with these ideas, it's a double edged sword.
[59:50] Sometimes we gain ground in one perspective and lose ground in another.
[59:54] So, yep.
[59:57] I just don't want to face the same problem six months.
[1:00:00] Now, when we have a design, the neighbors call and say, I don't want this, so let's make sure we're doing our due diligence as well.
[1:00:07] Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, we should be looking at relatively low traffic volume, this being kind of a trailhead for open space.
[1:00:19] I don't expect that you're going to have a high traffic volume for that. So.
[1:00:26] But again, that's a conversation with the neighbors, too.
[1:00:30] And again, it's another big piece of land that has plenty of parks and rec potential down the road.
[1:00:35] Yeah.
[1:00:35] Looking to the future.
[1:00:36] And just a little bit on kind of what needs to happen down the road if this becomes a bigger developed park.
[1:00:44] We'd have to go through a special use permit with the county, probably have.
[1:00:49] If you're doing any developing playgrounds, buildings, that kind of thing, paved parking lots,
[1:00:55] and then you also have the ongoing maintenance from parks and rec who maybe aren't prepared
[1:01:03] to maintain an area so far away from their base operation, but taking baby steps, working on
[1:01:10] the open space. Well, I have to include that as part of our strategic planning and the strategic
[1:01:15] plan somewhere along the road, right? In the budget. I mean you create a budget
[1:01:22] then you have a year to implement. So it's a process. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:01:28] All right. Number four, strategic priority number eight, fostering public trust,
[1:01:35] community cleanup, presented by Matt Lunge and Marcos Riz.
[1:01:43] Good evening board.
[1:01:44] Christian Jay, hi. You are listening. Marcos, I'm going to ask if there's
[1:01:50] any details or anything technical to be able to share
[1:01:52] those questions for it.
[1:01:53] They'll be pretty brief as we share some of this information
[1:01:56] in our packet.
[1:01:57] We had a very, I think, successful community cleanup
[1:02:00] made 30th or late May that took a lot of the trash
[1:02:05] out of the community and served a lot of folks for it.
[1:02:08] It was, I think, one we have done in the past,
[1:02:11] but this level, this detail, this planning,
[1:02:14] all the execution, much more, I think,
[1:02:17] I think strong as far as how it performed and how people felt about it.
[1:02:21] And there were some lessons learned.
[1:02:22] I think this game, as far as the discussion with the board, Director Roberts brought up
[1:02:26] an idea of doing something with being able to do something similar, I think, in a community
[1:02:31] cleanup type venue, though we had this one already in the shoot.
[1:02:35] And there is one planned, I believe, October, November of this year, to follow up based
[1:02:39] on some of the feedback and some understanding that this one was really a lot and filled
[1:02:45] up fast.
[1:02:45] even with a very large machine to help ensure it all got compacted, which is pretty cool.
[1:02:50] But with it, we're going to have that one later this year, and all sharing all this
[1:02:54] information with the board, understanding the request, want to just ask, essentially,
[1:02:58] is it okay to essentially move forward with a, this is going to happen again this year,
[1:03:02] we're going to get more data. At this time, we don't quite have a full year of all the data
[1:03:05] of how much we might need to do this. And after that, we might be able to say more
[1:03:08] explicitly, this is what's working, what's not, and kind of move forward with it,
[1:03:12] or are there any additional requests or thoughts towards it and just the recommendation that comes
[1:03:17] with I think we've got what sounds like a pretty good program and a pretty good plan
[1:03:21] and don't want to necessarily create more complications while they're already in the
[1:03:24] process of that until we get more data to determine if there's something further we should
[1:03:27] or could be considering doing. So bringing that as an update to the board with similar
[1:03:31] information but to really just request to the board to give guidance on moving forward
[1:03:34] as is or if there's anything like to be introduced and discussed.
[1:03:40] people had to show ID when they came no they did not have to show ID okay so
[1:03:49] anybody could have come from any anywhere yes some stuff okay
[1:03:56] so it says
[1:04:00] here's probably seven tons of metal are we able to use that in scrap bed and
[1:04:04] get money back from that or no at this time the metal came from the county we
[1:04:10] We had a collaboration with bubble County, which they that was one aspect that they brought in the future, if the board wants to see if that's a solution and we could look into that.
[1:04:21] But for the most part, the vendor will drop off the roll off and they utilize the scrap themselves to his ankle.
[1:04:29] Could I have figured out how offset costs or something, maybe recycle the metal and use it for our advantage?
[1:04:38] Consider and do a cost, essentially, benefit analysis to see if the time and everything else with it is worth the payoffs.
[1:04:44] Absolutely. I mean, that's seven times a metal. I don't know what that equates to, but it sounds like a lot.
[1:04:50] It can be a lot.
[1:04:52] Just saying.
[1:04:55] It's all covered.
[1:04:59] It's not nothing. We got, I think, a pretty sizable check for what our collection distribution team did recently to get some of that metal out of the yard, so it's not that idea.
[1:05:10] What size check was that? I think it was 14,000.
[1:05:13] I thought I saw that. Yeah. Okay. So I've spoken to about six people who participated in that and they said it was well organized.
[1:05:23] The staff were friendly and directive as far as how to go come in.
[1:05:30] Traffic flow pretty good.
[1:05:34] So they love it.
[1:05:35] So awesome. I think we like I said, we need to expand it.
[1:05:41] So it's just not encompassed over a weekend.
[1:05:44] They were just a day because we are a community that works shifts.
[1:05:49] And now everybody's got the same days off.
[1:05:51] So if we could do that, I think taxpayer would truly appreciate it.
[1:06:00] We can have a look at options.
[1:06:01] I do know those do come with challenges, but it's not necessarily
[1:06:05] uncircumventable, but we can consider those.
[1:06:07] Find ways to make sure.
[1:06:08] You don't necessarily have to be a week long or anything.
[1:06:11] You could do it like on a Tuesday, Wednesday.
[1:06:14] And the next time you do it, it's on a Thursday Friday.
[1:06:17] That's going to do it.
[1:06:18] Break it up.
[1:06:19] You see what I'm saying?
[1:06:21] So, different days off. Yeah. It's a good idea.
[1:06:25] I read through the staff comments and, you know, I enjoyed the lessons learned and it looks like you guys all have a handle on it. So, if you're comfortable doing it again, I'd say do it.
[1:06:36] Well, credit goes team. They did an excellent job. Brandy did a great job of directing people. Her name is making new worst times and Marcus is an amazing job of being able to organize and put it on.
[1:06:45] And a lot of his team also went out and contributed as well, even folks from our department. So
[1:06:49] I appreciate everybody's work on it. Happy to come back after the next one and give lessons,
[1:06:52] learn and see if there's anything further we can do. Great job, team. Thank you.
[1:07:00] All right. Next, uh, general discussion regarding
[1:07:05] published signage for Medal of Honor Boulevard. Chris, I believe you have
[1:07:10] this on your, your docket. Yep. So drove on Medal of Honor Boulevard,
[1:07:16] several times and then the thought dawned on me as I saw I was leaving the city of
[1:07:21] Pueblo Pueblo County maintenance picked up and then I got dumped off on Purcell
[1:07:28] and nothing said welcome to Pueblo West so that's where the idea came from
[1:07:38] I
[1:07:41] haven't put too much thought into it I did look up where district on
[1:07:47] property is so it would be feasible to do based on that simple search. And open to discussion
[1:07:59] to see if you guys think that's worth it. Yeah. Any thoughts, Genoen?
[1:08:08] The only thing I don't like is the transition from 45 back to 40 in 55 in the middle. I'm
[1:08:16] like just make it one speed all the way. You know what I'm saying? It's like because
[1:08:21] everybody's going to push that speed limit and then you got to slow down to 40
[1:08:26] right there about a gel. So we're thinking the same kind of sign as
[1:08:30] what's off of Highway 50, correct? Right, yeah I agree with the signage being
[1:08:35] there would be appropriate. Yeah I would say yeah at the top end. Kind of
[1:08:40] grand it. This is what our signs look like.
[1:08:44] To be consistent, I would say, yeah.
[1:08:46] Okay. That was your thought too, correct?
[1:08:49] I think so, if that's what we're looking for. I tried to cost, you know, just general search
[1:08:53] of like what the cost estimate and it did range from 10,000 to 30,000. I think that
[1:08:58] does make it a capital project based on that. And so one of the questions we were just
[1:09:01] asked is, is it feasible and appropriate to do within the next budget cycle to
[1:09:05] get something to be able to do in 2027 essentially? I do think that would be
[1:09:10] consistent with our planning purposes so that way we don't mid-cycle try to add
[1:09:14] something to it. So anyway usually talk about budget amendments. So as long as
[1:09:17] that's comfortable I think that's something we can put into the project. I
[1:09:21] think the only other conversation that might come up with the board is if we
[1:09:26] typically set aside capital project funding. I'm gonna throw out a number here
[1:09:29] it's hypothetical. If we have two million dollars of projects and two
[1:09:33] million dollars available and this came on top of that question would be do we
[1:09:37] find more funding, do we cap it until there's a cycle that works? That's the only question
[1:09:41] I can anticipate coming up if it does come up. Not say it does, but a question of its
[1:09:45] prioritization for the 2027 budget. Correct.
[1:09:52] Okay. Yeah, we can have that discussion during
[1:09:54] the budget meetings. Sounds good this summer. Okay. Oh, the only thing I want to mention,
[1:10:01] I apologize, was the sign, the logo. If we add anything to state, you know, welcome
[1:10:07] on the public west are, I think it's, oh gosh,
[1:10:11] where EGLE soar, I believe is our actual statement.
[1:10:15] If we're consistent with anything
[1:10:16] that's already either trademarked or consistent,
[1:10:19] I don't think there's a lot that we necessarily
[1:10:21] have to consider, want to consider,
[1:10:22] but if we're looking to put something else there,
[1:10:24] I think you had a couple ideas that you had mentioned.
[1:10:26] Yeah, a couple ideas, that's what I thought about it.
[1:10:27] I was gonna say something X number of parts
[1:10:29] and things like that, but then it,
[1:10:31] obviously that fluctuates and whatnot,
[1:10:33] so I didn't wanna.
[1:10:35] And there's some ideas like numbers that can be probably interchanged a little bit easier.
[1:10:41] So those may be work aroundable.
[1:10:43] But if you take a statement, let's say with a sunshine, make something up.
[1:10:48] One of the thoughts of the board might want to consider is community input or feedback
[1:10:51] before that sign goes.
[1:10:53] I could see like that entrance path to Liberty Point.
[1:11:01] One on my call, I could say Gateway to the Reservoir, stuff like that, just to lead them.
[1:11:09] So we could, like you said, gather input from the community and do a vote on it or something.
[1:11:15] I think that's great, I did.
[1:11:17] A whole West, Middle Horizons community.
[1:11:21] Okay, so I guess a timeline of when that would happen, what are your thoughts?
[1:11:27] Yeah, so if I understand guys at least right now based on general agreement is we'll start prepping and getting a cost estimates
[1:11:33] I know we're in the capital improvement project cycle right now
[1:11:37] Sean still here sorry to add to his plate, but we'll add that to it try to get cost estimates
[1:11:41] Understand what the project is and then during the normal budget cycle will have a section that's dedicated to capital projects
[1:11:46] Yeah, I'll discuss further. It's actually referring to the sorry my fault referring to the questionnaire to the public
[1:11:52] Like when we would give feedback
[1:11:55] The question wait till 2027 or would we put it out now so we know let me ask and get some thoughts on staff because I know a couple, especially with parks master plan. I know they've done in the past, but they've gotten that. I don't know what their cycle look like, but we'll try to make it so that way we can get that information while ahead of finalizing the product.
[1:12:11] Fair enough. So follow up.
[1:12:13] Thank you, sir.
[1:12:14] Thank you. Thanks. Good idea, Chris.
[1:12:19] Next up public comments. Do you have any other public comments?
[1:12:21] We've received no public comments. No more. Okay, board member and district manager closing comments who would like to go first?
[1:12:30] Me because I thought
[1:12:34] We used to do the and you guys are I'm sure you're still working on how to
[1:12:41] Get it back
[1:12:43] Get it back, but we used to do the updates on the different
[1:12:50] additional committees and such like that. So I was wondering, are we moving that to the,
[1:12:56] can I just get an update on what we've done with that?
[1:12:59] I apologize. That was removed from the board agendas as an intent to reduce the scope and size of the board meetings.
[1:13:07] But we do need to provide an alternative to be able to say this is where we're going to make those updates.
[1:13:11] So it doesn't necessarily take the time within the meeting to do so.
[1:13:14] I think it's something we intended to talk about during the mid-year report the July 17th to get a little bit of feedback for it.
[1:13:21] So I apologize. I don't think I'd share that information as far as one of our topics.
[1:13:24] That's all right, because I was just thinking about, like the golf course I haven't heard about the golf course for a while, so I was curious.
[1:13:31] I wanted to share, so it's okay on that exact point, like Director Potter, so I'm sorry.
[1:13:37] You and I talked a little bit about those kind of frequently asked questions, things
[1:13:42] that come up for it, and those updates that you're kind of referring to might be able
[1:13:44] to help address those.
[1:13:45] So I think that's something that will facilitate.
[1:13:47] And then what it might look like, and we'll get the board's feedback on this, is if you're
[1:13:52] part of that committee sending that update, just kind of like how we've been doing
[1:13:56] for the admin building or the pool committee, and either assigning a board member to
[1:13:59] provide that in a certain location so that everybody can see it, and then publishing
[1:14:03] on our website so that way people can see it there, too.
[1:14:05] Okay, I appreciate bringing out this. Okay, so we'll talk about it mid-term and
[1:14:11] next month we'll talk about it and the scope of it and get some feedback on how
[1:14:14] to move forward with it. Okay, thanks,
[1:14:19] Rodney. I'm having no comment. Thank you.
[1:14:24] Okay, great. I just want to say at the first of the year in January at our
[1:14:31] first meeting that this would be a year of accountability and it's proven
[1:14:36] to be a year of accountability. My personal take on that is, is that I worked for the government for
[1:14:44] many years and I didn't trust the government. And I came down hard on our Metro District
[1:14:51] government employees here. And I see a new vision because there's a lot at the end of the
[1:15:00] Our administration is discovering things, exposing things, and here in the near future it's going to instill a huge amount of public trust in the metro district and how it functions in our community here.
[1:15:17] I want you to keep your eyes open. I also want you to come July the 9th to the library. I want that overflow room to be utilized.
[1:15:26] Let's get a hundred-plus people on there. I think we're supposed to have three county commissioners in there
[1:15:32] so
[1:15:34] If you could please attend please do that's at 5 30 p.m.. July tonight, and I hope everybody had a good Father's Day weekend
[1:15:45] And that's about it. God bless America
[1:15:51] So I
[1:15:53] Just had a comment about the fire in Colorado City
[1:15:57] you know that happened over the weekend. I want to thank all the community members out
[1:16:02] there that are supporting one another and helping each other through that.
[1:16:07] Hopefully we don't
[1:16:08] see too much that happened this summer although it is dry. I understand we are not doing
[1:16:15] the 4th of July event and it's being moved to potentially December, correct?
[1:16:24] And a lot
[1:16:25] of other agencies are doing something similar just to mitigate fire danger.
[1:16:32] So I appreciate the community for understanding and others probably still some upset people,
[1:16:38] but we need to make sure we take care of one another.
[1:16:44] That's all I have.
[1:16:44] Christian, do you have anything?
[1:16:46] I actually do not.
[1:16:47] Thank you, though.
[1:16:47] All right.
[1:16:49] So I will make the motion since Bill's not here.
[1:16:52] I'll go ahead and make the motion to recess our normal meeting and move into the executive
[1:16:57] the obsession for the purposes of one, 24-6-4024E, color revised statute determining positions
[1:17:06] relative to matters that may be subject to negotiations, developing strategy for negotiations
[1:17:12] and instructing negotiators for buyout opportunity in the tower lease, and two, 24-6-4024B, color
[1:17:21] revised statute conferences with an attorney for the public entity for the purposes
[1:17:25] of receiving legal advice on specific legal questions regarding A, matters regarding 567
[1:17:32] East Tenager Drive, and B, regarding assignment of positions to 6C Oversight Committee and
[1:17:38] Rhodes IGA.
[1:17:40] Second.
[1:17:42] All right.
[1:17:43] So we have a motion and a second to move into executive session.
[1:17:47] All those in favor?
[1:17:48] Aye.
[1:17:50] Any opposed?
[1:17:51] All right.
[1:17:52] And we are in the executive session with Spive and Rhesus.