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Good evening. Welcome to the Tuesday,

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September 1st regular city council

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meeting. Dy Elliot, will you please

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please call roll?

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» Mayor Benjamin,

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» Present.

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» Council member Fjarn,

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» Present.

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» Council member McDonald,

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» Here.

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» Council member Parks,

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» Here.

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» Council member Schmus,

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» Here. Council member Vance

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» Here.

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» Council member Weller

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» Present.

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» Council member Wright

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» Here.

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» So for community announcements, uh first

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things coming up just as we're going

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into the Labor Day weekend. We have a

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number of Labor Day type things. First,

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Powman City Hall, Pullman Administrative

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Offices, Pullman Recreation Center, and

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Neil Public Library will be closed on

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Monday, September 8th for Labor Day.

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Emergency services will remain

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available. uh related to Pullman airport

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service. Pullman transit is changing our

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airport bus service after Labor Day

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weekend. So be beginning September 8th,

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the new Pullman airport will require

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reservations at least 24 hours in

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advance for service to and from the

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airport. You can call 5093326535

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or visit pullmanheywah.govporter

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to schedule your ride. Um, we have

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coming up then the following weekend

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after that, uh, the 20 26 community

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table. City of Pullman will be hosting

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the Pullman picnic on Saturday,

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September 12th, uh, from 5 to 7:00 p.m.

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on Kamikin Street. So, between uh, Maine

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and Olsen, a pack a picnic or pick up

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your favorite to go and come eat with

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your community at this familyfriendly

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event featuring live music from local

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band maybe Tuesday. If you'd like to get

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involved as a table host, volunteer,

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sponsor, or participating business,

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please visit pullmanheywah.gov/pullman

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picnic to sign up. It's going to be a

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great event. I hope to see everybody

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there. Uh and then the weekend after

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that, uh come uh join WSU Downtown

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Pullman Association and the Chamber of

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Commerce uh and the city of Pullman for

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an unforgettable kickoff to the football

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season at the First Down Friday Street

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Fair. and Cornhole Tournament. The first

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event of the year is Friday, September

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18th from 5 to 8:00 PM on Olsen and

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Kamakin Streets next to Neil Public

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Library. Register for the Cornhole

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Tournament at the Wshu booth between 5

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and 5:45. Uh the winners will receive

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two tickets to Wshu versus Dukane on

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September 19th.

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Um and we have a dumpster survey, not a

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dumpster fire, but a dumpster survey

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going on. Uh the city of Pullman is

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trying to assess how much of the

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community knows about the dumpster

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management and its impact on our storm

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water system. If you live or work

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somewhere with a dumpster, please take a

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few minutes to complete a short survey

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at pullmanwah.gov/dumpster

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survey. Uh and then on to parks and

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wreck. Uh registration began last week

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for Pullman parks andrec fall

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activities. You can visit

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pullmanwah.govrec

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/wrec to see the activity guide and find

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something fun for you and your kids to

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do this fall. And the Pullman Fire

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Department now offers a blended

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learning, adult, and pediatric first

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aid, CPR, and AED class. Each

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participant will complete an online

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portion before attending an in-person

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skills day at the Pullman Fire Station.

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The next available class is on Tuesday,

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September 22nd. Registration is only $55

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and it's at pullmanhew.govfirst

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class. Uh and then last with the Neil

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Public Library, the ESL conversation

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club at Neil Public Library is taking a

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break for the month of September. If you

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want to attend Conf conservation

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conversation club when it resumes,

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please fill out a short questionnaire at

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pullmanw.govslub.

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Uh to see more listings of other

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community events such as si visit the

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city's tourism page at

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visienpullman.comvents.

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So a lot of things going on. I I hope

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that you you everyone can find something

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to do. Uh the next item on our agenda is

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community comments. This agenda item is

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the opportunity for the public to bring

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comments to the attention of the elected

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officials. Specifically, this item is

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reserved for public comment, concerns,

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or other information not related to a

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specific to a previous public hearing.

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This agenda item for comments will not

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exceed 30 minutes in total. Comments are

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not to be directed to the mayor or the

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city council as a body. No comments

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should be directed to an individual

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council member. And in compliance with

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Washington campaign laws regarding use

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of public facilities during elections,

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no speaker may support or oppose a b a

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ballot measure or support or oppose a

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candidate for an election. uh which

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includes your own campaign. With that,

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is there anyone who would like to

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provide community comments tonight?

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Seeing none, we'll go on. Uh so the next

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up is uh city council member comments

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and I'm going to uh start down with

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council member Schumus uh as it relates

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to city council member comments. So with

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that, council member Schumis, do you

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have any comments?

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» Thank you. I don't have any tonight.

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With that, Council Member Parks,

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» No comments.

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» Council Member McDonald,

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» Council member Weller.

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» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just wanted to uh

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let everybody know that the Whitman

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Recovery Community Center event, the

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overdose awareness event, was really

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very successful. It was very nice having

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people there putting names on the board

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of people they've lost. Um, I've had

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other people reach out to me and explain

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that they are remembering people in

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their own hearts and minds. It can be a

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difficult thing. So, anyways, just

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wanted to say that was a very good event

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and uh, thanks Whitman Recovery

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Community Center for putting that on.

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» Council member Wright,

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» Council member FAR,

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agenda item requests. Is there anyone

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who has a future agenda item request?

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uh getting into presentations. And the

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first we have two proclamations and I'll

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go and uh I'll read each one and I'll

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start with our proclamation uh related

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constitution week for 2026.

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Whereas the constitution of the United

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States of America, the guardian of our

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liberties embodies the principles of

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limited government in a republic

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dedicated to rule by law. And whereas

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September 17, 2026 marks the two 239th

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anniversary of the drafting the

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Constitution of the United States of

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America by the Constitutional

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Convention. And whereas it's fitting and

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proper to accord official recognition to

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this magnificent document and its

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memorable anniversary and to the

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patriotic celebrations which which will

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commemorate the occasion. And whereas

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public law 915 guarantees the issuing of

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a proclamation each year by the

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president of the United States of

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America designating September 17th

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through the 23rd as Constitution Week.

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Now therefore, I, Francis Benjamin,

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Mayor Pullman, do hereby proclaim the

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week of September 17th through 23rd as

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Constitution Week and ask our citizens

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to reaffirm the ideals of the framers of

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the constit the framers of the

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Constitution had in 1787

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by v by vigilantly protecting the

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freedoms guaranteed to us through this

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guardian of our liberties, remembering

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that lost rights may never be regained.

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And and with that, we do have uh a

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member uh from our community who's also

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Daughters American Revolution uh Miss

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Dylan Dilman, which I'll bring forward

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to give you the the proclamation.

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» [applause]

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» And she would like to make one quick

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statement. [laughter]

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A great heritage that you have.

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» Uh I represent the Daughters of the

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American Revolution Alice Whitman

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chapter which is headquartered in Lewon.

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Uh you uh Pullman uh joins with 12 other

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cities, uh one county in this area, uh

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two school districts, four city

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libraries,

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uh four school libraries, and classroom

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presentations by at least five teachers.

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Uh so we spread the word. Uh if you want

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to join uh and read the Constitution out

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loud, join us at Washington State

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University in the uh u atrium and uh we

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read it uh from 12 to 1 and usually we

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get it all through the all of the

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amendments as well.

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» Thank you very much.

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And our next proclamation, this is

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designation of September as library card

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signup month. Whereas libraries are

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foundational to educational,

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imagination, and opportunity, offering

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everything from early literacy programs

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to digital tools that support lifelong

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learning and personal growth. Whereas

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libraries welcome all people serving as

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inclusive and accessible community hubs

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that connect individuals across

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cultures, generations, and experiences.

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Whereas libraries curate collections and

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design programs that reflect the

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diversity of the population they serve,

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ensuring equitable access to

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information, technology, and culture for

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all. Whereas libraries help individuals

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navigate life's challenges by providing

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trusted information, digital access, job

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search support, and connections to

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essential services. Whereas libraries

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contribute to thriving local economies

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by equipping job seekers, entrepreneurs,

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students, and and creators with tools

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and training to succeed. Whereas in

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times of both crisis and calm, libraries

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and their staff remain steadfast in

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supporting and strengthening their

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communities. Whereas library resources

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help households save money, reduce

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waste, and make sustainable choices, all

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through the simple power of shared

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public good. Whereas a library card

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offers a front row seat to everything

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the library offers from books and

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technology to lifelong learning and

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imagination. Whereas libraries,

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librarians, and library workers across

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the country are joining together to

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celebrate library card signup month

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under the theme, a library card hits all

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the right notes. Now therefore, be it

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resolved that I, Francis Benjamin, Mayor

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of Pullman, do here hereby proclaim

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September 26 as library cards sign month

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in Pullman, Washington, encourage all

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all residents to be sharp as opposed to

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a flat. Um, and sign up for a library

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card. And with that, we do have a

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library director here that I've

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introduced.

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» So Stacy and if you wanted to say

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anything and I know.

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[applause]

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» All right. Thank you. We are so excited

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to be part of this community and we

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really hope that all of the residents of

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Pullman come and visit us at the

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library. Get a library card and open the

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world to yourself. Thank you.

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[applause]

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And now next is boards, commissions, the

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2026 annual reports. Uh and within the

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agenda you see that the boards and

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commissions provided uh their annual

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reports uh to the council and then some

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of them actually asked if they could

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also uh be able to provide

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presentations. Do we have everybody here

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that said

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I'm trying to see is Desiree here?

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» Okay.

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is um so the first presentation was

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going to be from the arts commission.

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Is there a representative from the arts

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commission here?

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Okay. I'm not seeing that you have you

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have it in your board packet. And what

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we'll do is that we'll uh what I'd like

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to is take the presentations and then

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after that we can talk talk through uh

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the ones that didn't present uh if we

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have additional comments we want to make

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related to those. Uh so if we move next

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to the Environmental Resilience

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Commission. I did see Larry Clark here.

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So, Larry,

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thank you for chairing the board.

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» Certainly. Thank you very much. Um,

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pleasure to see everybody. I'll keep my

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comments very brief and then ask if

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there are any comments or questions. Um,

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at this time, uh, you have the report in

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hand looking at the past year as well as

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the goals of the Environmental

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Resilience Commission. We consider this

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commission extremely important at this

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time for the city of Pullman as well as

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the world. We're seeing all kinds of

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climate extremes, floods, the wildfire

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smoke we've all had to deal with and

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other aspects of of the climate that are

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shifting rapidly. And so this commission

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has a few goals that are hopefully

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aligned with everything that the city of

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Pullman is aiming for as well. Our first

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uh highlight that I'd like to point out

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is partnerships across the community.

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Whenever you have a broad um effort like

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this, you really need those

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partnerships. So, we've been reaching

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out to a lot of different groups. Um

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Citizens Climate Lobby for example,

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Paloo Base and Aquafer Committee, WSU,

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um they've been rebuilding their

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sustainability commission and so we've

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reached out to them and in particular

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the school district. they've really um

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done some good work with putting

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together their sustainability committee

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and one of our commission members goes

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to those meetings as well. So they will

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help us build that plan and the plan is

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the major work we're working on. This is

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um has a lot of different pieces that go

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into it and we're going to be doing a

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lot of outreach. That's the other

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highlight that I want to mention.

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reaching out to service groups, service

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clubs, other community members, get

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their input and really build something

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that is practical and that can help the

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community and really benefit all of us.

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A couple of other um details that I want

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to bring up. Uh one is something I've

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brought be for the council in the past.

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There's a group called Icky which is a

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local environmental local government um

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organization that is working on

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environmental initiatives. They have a

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whole suite of tools for measuring

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climate impact of local governments,

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cities and counties, other other local

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governments. We propose that Pullman,

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you know, if the if council would

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consider at some point that Pullman

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join, our colleagues over in the city of

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Moscow have benefited a great deal from

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joining Eckley. That's in the report.

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So, you could take a look at it, perhaps

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do a little research on it. And if we do

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put in the the cost for the membership

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fees, I think we would gain quite a bit.

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They have some valuable tools as well as

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best practices for local government.

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Um, the other thing that I'd like to

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point out from this last year and that

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we will continue to do is a uh analysis

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by WSU and University of Idaho

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architecture, landscape architecture

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students who are learning GIS tools and

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they're taking on very specific aspects

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of our local community and applying

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their knowledge and expertise of GIS to

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help us out with some data for our

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environmental resilience report that

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we'd like to put together and then put

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forward for the council to consider. And

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we're very excited about that. We're

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fortunate one of our commission members

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is a professor up at WSU has helped

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organize this effort. And we've got

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these wonderful students and academics

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up at WSU. So, let's take advantage.

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» Um any questions,

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comments?

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» Yes. So with that, open up for any

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questions uh either for later or related

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to the goals that they're they're

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proposing. Um and and the thing for us

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today, part of it is is as a council,

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you set your two-year goals. Uh we then

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passed those to uh the various boards,

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commissions uh and committees and asked

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for them to look and how are they uh

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align with what what are the goals that

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and priorities the council set up. Some

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of them you're going to find their

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specific RCWs that are separate from uh

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working under the direction of the

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council. some some some of them are

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separate where they have duties that are

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specific assigned by an RCW as opposed

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to just the council. So you'll you'll

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get a mix of that like when we get to

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the historic preservation committee um

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in that way. So with that, any questions

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or or comments that you have related to

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what was presented?

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Council member Schumis. And then

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» I don't have a [clears throat] question.

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I just had a comment. I didn't know what

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to expect really going into this. It's

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like I kind I looked at these, but I

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just think it's really amazing the way

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that you spent the time writing every

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how it comes back to our goals like

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really outlining that for us to see and

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I really appreciate that very much. That

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was probably a whole extra night's worth

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of work. Um, but I think these are

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amazing. I think environmental policies

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are really amazing and I just wanted to

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thank you.

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If I may,

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» Go ahead.

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» Uh, I would, uh, put a just a note out

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about the wonderful city staff that we

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have very supportive and very helpful in

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producing this kind of report.

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» Council member Waller.

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» Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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[clears throat and cough]

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I will say um, I'm very impressed with

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how

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everything has come along in your group.

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You know, back in 2012, Derek Scog, uh,

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past city council member and I had

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fought very hard to try and, um, get

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some sort of environmental

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um, committee at the city. Um, and

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as many of us will know, it sometimes

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takes many takes many many years, uh, a

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decade. Um but what has come from that

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is a very dedicated group, a very

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trustworthy

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group and um

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you know instead of me having to look

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through is this being done right? Is

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this being done right? Because as you

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know spending spending some time over at

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NASA Langley on on environmental

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satellites, it's something that's very

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uh near and dear to my heart.

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Um, but it does seem like I I don't need

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to be concerned at all. So, I appreciate

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your hard work, your dedication, your

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passion. I do have a question. Something

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that has come up especially um I see

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ASWSU some rep representatives here.

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Appreciate that. Um, in the last couple

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of years, I've had some conversations

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with some uh, representatives and their

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questions have come around dark sky

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initiatives and whether that is in the

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purview of an environmental resilience

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commission. That would be my question.

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I don't have an answer for the dark

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skies initiative or those types of

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efforts. It's something actually we've

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mentioned in the commission meetings

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before.

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» Um, and I think we had the same question

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that we weren't entirely sure if it was

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in the purview of the of the commission.

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It is a quality of life issue and it

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could be. Um, so hopefully we can get

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back to you with an answer on that.

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» And just so anybody uh here, I don't

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have the initiative right in front, but

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some people may say, what is this? Is

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this a conspiracy thing? dark skies

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initiative. It's really reducing um

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light pollution and uh you know light

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pollution leads to um migratory uh

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disruptions, bird disruptions. Also, of

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course, we're able you know to see more

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of the um sky, the beautiful sky, you

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know, as it gets dark if we have less

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lights or lights that are facing, you

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know, more towards the ground. And if

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you've ever really wanted a close spot

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to see

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how amazing the night sky is that's near

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and close to close to home,

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[clears throat] take a little walk or a

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drive up to the Jedit Observatory

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and turn your back to the observatory

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more towards the horse where they take

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the horses around your back to the

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stadium and just look up and it's

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phenomenal what you can see. So anyways,

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thank you. I would at a future time love

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to discuss dark skies with yourself and

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the ARC. Thanks.

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» Great. Thank you,

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» Council Member Fjarn.

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» I I thought I saw if I if I if I missed

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it,

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» You probably did. I'm just going to pile

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on the compliments, Larry. Thank you so

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much to you and uh your committee for

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the work that you're doing. I know you

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mentioned uh future outreach and

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collaboration with WSU, but I was really

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excited to see a youth advisory council

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as well in the in the goals. Uh could

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you expand a little bit more what the

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committee has planned for that?

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» I think yeah, I don't know what kind of

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details I might I might add to that. um

547
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,679
just that you know we want to build

548
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,679
we're actually more I'd say in kind of a

549
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:34,080
factf finding and and getting the

550
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:35,919
thoughts and opinions of other groups at

551
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,320
this point so I think that's really the

552
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:39,320
key to it

553
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,720
any other comments questions

554
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:48,720
great thank you very much Larry

555
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,360
and I see Desire's been able to join us

556
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,880
so we'll go back to the arts commission

557
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,880
so Desire Greystone Stone,

558
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:04,400
» My apologies. I I had it in my calendar

559
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,440
at 6:00. So, [laughter]

560
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,120
» We we we I I heard a few grumblings as

561
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,400
people were coming in earlier [laughter]

562
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:13,760
about about challenges. So, you're not

563
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,880
the only one that had challenges getting

564
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,960
here.

565
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,880
» Thank you. Um so, we Oh, my phone.

566
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,799
Sorry. Um, we sent over um part of our

567
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,159
our annual report. Is are we doing the

568
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:28,400
annual report? I just want to make sure

569
00:27:26,159 --> 00:27:30,159
I'm doing the right thing.

570
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,200
» Okay, good. [laughter]

571
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:32,480
Just want to make sure I'm doing the

572
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,200
right thing. We're doing six different

573
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,279
things. So, our annual report basically

574
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:41,120
um encompasses all of the things that

575
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:42,720
we've been doing, which includes um

576
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:44,640
making sure that the community

577
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,919
understands the importance for art for

578
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,400
all and how it um provides for the

579
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:54,159
economic and community development.

580
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,960
We're also um in a involving um starting

581
00:27:54,159 --> 00:27:59,440
to work with thanks to the mayor um

582
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,080
registering part of our uh Pullman as

583
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,399
the creative district within Washington

584
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,679
state. We're in the very beginning plans

585
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:09,279
of that. Um we've also are working on

586
00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:12,240
encouraging the use of parks and open

587
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:14,399
spaces for live performances. Um looking

588
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,559
at culinary as part of the arts,

589
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:19,120
developing a rotating art exhibit here

590
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:22,880
at the city buildings showcasing various

591
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:25,760
arts. um and themes and age groups and

592
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,240
all of that. And then also um creating

593
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,559
and maintaining an online data database

594
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,600
for the visual arts community, looking

595
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:35,840
at all city art and then also starting

596
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,360
to add into that some of the private art

597
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,000
so that if somebody walks around they

598
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:42,000
can they could look and see what that um

599
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440
what is that art, who was the artist,

600
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,640
where did it come from, that kind of

601
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,399
thing. And then we're also um working on

602
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,559
the next part of of asking for a 1% um

603
00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:54,799
for the arts pro program incorporated

604
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:57,840
into the capital improvement plan so

605
00:28:54,799 --> 00:29:00,880
that we can continue to work on adding

606
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:04,960
art into Pullman. So those are the big

607
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:07,600
things that we've done. Um and

608
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,840
um I welcome any questions that you

609
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,480
might have about where we are with all

610
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,000
of that. Um, part of the reason that I

611
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,360
know that one of the things that we want

612
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,240
to do is continue what started a few

613
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,039
years back with the wraps of the utility

614
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,880
boxes, but right now we have no budget.

615
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,440
So, that's one of those things that we

616
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,200
would put that put that toward. Um, and

617
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,039
then also part of the creative district

618
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:36,000
itself because that also takes a little

619
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:40,559
bit of funding to to move forward. So

620
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,679
» So with that any Council Member Weller?

621
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:46,960
» So I love that this is getting started

622
00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:49,360
again and you're the perfect person.

623
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,120
So I'm I'm very glad uh because I know

624
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,200
your passion and I I feel it all the

625
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,279
time and I love the building and seeing

626
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,880
Anyways, I could go on and on about your

627
00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:00,720
your space. Um, my question is, are

628
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,760
there collaborations in the future

629
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:07,520
looking with uh looking at working with

630
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,240
uh I'm gonna get the name wrong. Schnitz

631
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,559
Schnitzer

632
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,080
» Schnitzer Schnitzer Art Gallery at WSU.

633
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,080
» Yeah, they're part of they're part of

634
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,080
both the arts commission. Cara's on the

635
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,720
arts commission with me and then they're

636
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,320
also a part of the um creative art

637
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,760
district. So they're also well part of

638
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,720
this because you know they're part of

639
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,799
the community.

640
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,520
» Yeah. And the the Great. I'm glad to

641
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,279
hear it. Um and the other question is

642
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,399
you know we have a lot of retaining

643
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:40,240
walls and those so and I always harp on

644
00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:44,080
it when when it comes around the one

645
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,760
right diagonal to the library. You know

646
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,840
there's the retaining wall with the

647
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,880
parking lot and everything like that.

648
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,200
And then as you're going up to WSU,

649
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,600
you know, way back I had talked to

650
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Joanna Bailey, the director for the

651
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,039
library, um, and she was working with

652
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,799
the arts commission, and I thought a

653
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:08,720
green art type of, you know, the moss,

654
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:09,360
the green green art green graffiti.

655
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
» Yes.

656
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,240
» That, uh, you know, other cities have

657
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,679
used and things like that. But are there

658
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,240
future plans for doing something with

659
00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:22,240
some of those retaining walls?

660
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,720
» I think that we would be open to

661
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,360
anything that involves art, honestly.

662
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Um, and that's not one that has come up

663
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,661
in in our purview, but but as you say

664
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,559
it, I'm like, yes, let's do it.

665
00:31:31,661 --> 00:31:35,039
[laughter]

666
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,559
Um, yeah. So I think part of the whole

667
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:40,480
idea of not only the the um the creative

668
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:43,519
district is to invite as many different

669
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,240
kinds of art as as possible and it's a

670
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:49,679
creative district not just art. So the

671
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,320
creativity of um being a brewer that

672
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:57,200
could be a part of creativity um

673
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:59,600
culinary arts um the um performing arts

674
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,039
but but so much more than just art but

675
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,880
just being creative. What are the

676
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,519
different ways that we that our

677
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,519
community can be creative, including

678
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:10,159
with the design of where the creative

679
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,039
district is? [laughter]

680
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:14,640
» I'm I'm I'm getting all excited. So, uh

681
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,799
Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm loving where your

682
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,000
mind is is going on this and you're

683
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,960
perfect. Great. Thank you.

684
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640
» Thank you,

685
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,360
» Council Member Parks.

686
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,760
» Just a follow-up question about what you

687
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360
just said. That was my question. is have

688
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,039
the

689
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,200
do you know the perimeters of of the are

690
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,960
a creative district yet? Would it be

691
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,960
primarily in downtown or what would that

692
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,480
» So we just had our second meeting for

693
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,159
that um last week and one of the things

694
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,600
that we talked about was looking at all

695
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:49,919
the different places where we do have

696
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,572
creative um parts of this community.

697
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:51,600
Um and what

698
00:32:51,572 --> 00:32:54,000
» [clears throat]

699
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,799
» Um the mayor said was that a lot of um

700
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,200
communities get really um creative in

701
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,960
how they create their creative district

702
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,760
and so it looks like a really weird

703
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,480
animal. Um so that we could go up to

704
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,039
include schnitzer and down to include um

705
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,840
PCT and you know those kind so we could

706
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,919
make it part of the um creative district

707
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,000
is it has to be accessible

708
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:17,919
» And so there has to be a walkability

709
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,559
part of it. So that is one of the the

710
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:24,799
criteria and um so that so yes but we

711
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,519
haven't we haven't like put a map out

712
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,320
and yeah so we're still looking at all

713
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,360
that.

714
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:35,039
» Um you mentioned funding for being able

715
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:37,279
to um start this project or you know for

716
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,679
this project. Is this something that DPA

717
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:41,519
could help with at all?

718
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:44,799
» I think that they're they are they would

719
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:46,880
be a partner in all of this. Yeah. Um,

720
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:48,240
one of the one of the another criteria

721
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,960
that has to happen for the creative

722
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,120
district is we have to have um a and

723
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:58,200
mayor help me if I if I misspa speak,

724
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,200
but it's you have to have um a a

725
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:03,519
oh my gosh words. um you have to have a

726
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:07,360
um some kind of a committee or an

727
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:11,280
organization that has 20,000 um not

728
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,040
necessarily for the the um arts for the

729
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,960
creative district, but it has to but it

730
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:21,599
has to show that there is a um that

731
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:23,839
there is a um community request for it,

732
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,839
that there's buyin. And so having

733
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:29,919
somebody having somebody behind you that

734
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:32,800
has that 20,000 um helps show the state

735
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:34,000
that the community is serious.

736
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,079
» You're you're you're doing great.

737
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,359
» Am I doing okay? All right. [laughter]

738
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:41,679
» You're doing you're doing great. Um uh

739
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:44,320
what she's describing is uh as a part of

740
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,480
the the creative district you would have

741
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,919
uh one entity that is kind of the lead

742
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,000
entity that is is recognized it goes to

743
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:54,879
and that entity h needs to have a budget

744
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,480
of at least 20,000 just to show that the

745
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:57,920
entity is a viable entity. It's not that

746
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,119
that money goes to the creative

747
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,440
district. Um and in other cities when

748
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:05,520
we're talking creative districts uh

749
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,599
sometimes the city is that entity

750
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,839
sometimes it's the downtown association.

751
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:13,200
Sometimes it's the chamber, uh, a main

752
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:13,920
street program, um, sometimes the arts

753
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,839
commission,

754
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,040
» Right? It could be a single, it could be

755
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:21,520
a a a nonprofit of its own that they

756
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,359
pulled together and have that. So, yeah.

757
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,760
» Yeah. So, that that's just part of the

758
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:27,760
process is that this being worked on and

759
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,800
and and

760
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,160
right now what it is is is and this is

761
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,640
going to be the biggest challenge is

762
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,119
coming up. What is what is the vision

763
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,520
that everybody can agree on? And and if

764
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:41,440
you think about our our creatives uh

765
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,440
have very creative visions and so how do

766
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,800
we get them all to agree on this is the

767
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,240
vision [laughter]

768
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,320
and it's going to be good.

769
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,839
» It's going to be fun and um yeah, it's

770
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,640
going to be great. So, any other

771
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:52,400
questions?

772
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,440
» Any other questions?

773
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,920
» Thank you all.

774
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,280
» If not, thank you Desiree. Uh next up

775
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,800
for the Historic Preservation

776
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Commission, Ned Warick.

777
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,920
» Good to have you here.

778
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Thank you for this opportunity to

779
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,400
address the city council and possibly

780
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,119
increase your awareness of the historic

781
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,040
preservation commission. Um the report

782
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:25,520
that was provided does a good job of

783
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,320
summarizing our goals, how they align

784
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,400
with the city council's goals and along

785
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,920
with some of our accomplishments. So, I

786
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440
won't try to actually go through what's

787
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,560
included in the report, but I'll try to

788
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,160
highlight a few of those things. Um, I

789
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,480
think I've probably told the council

790
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,960
prior, but there are new members on the

791
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,400
council. The Historic Preservation is uh

792
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,640
commission is made up of seven

793
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,400
commissioners. It is distinct in that I

794
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,720
believe it's the only commission that

795
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,200
has required expertise in the membership

796
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:55,200
of the commission. And so at least three

797
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,200
of our uh members have to have some

798
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,440
association with architecture,

799
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,839
archaeology, history, folklore, things

800
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,680
like that. Um I am blessed with having

801
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:05,520
an amazing commission that sits beside

802
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,079
me. We do have two new members in the

803
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,880
past year and I was very fortunate with

804
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:12,720
who we we were able to add and so thank

805
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,839
you to the council for confirming those

806
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,000
people and thank you to those

807
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:19,520
commissioners. Another big shout out to

808
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,160
the city staff. Ariel Maderas is amazing

809
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,000
and there can her contributions to the

810
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,599
city specifically to the historic

811
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,079
preservation commission but in so many

812
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,400
other ways cannot be overstated. She is

813
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:32,800
an amazing staff member and I appreciate

814
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,800
her every month actually all the time

815
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,720
that that we are working on historic

816
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,160
preservation issues. Um couple of the uh

817
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,640
accomplishments that have happened over

818
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,720
the past year or so for the historic

819
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,760
preservation. We've added two more uh

820
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:50,079
properties to our historical register. A

821
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,320
big another shout out to Tonnie in that

822
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:54,720
we now have a building downtown that is

823
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,640
on our historic register. And so Pullman

824
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,240
is a little unique. A lot of towns and

825
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,000
mosque is an example of this is where

826
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,400
the historic district starts in downtown

827
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,839
and then spreads in Pullman. It has

828
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,599
started up on College Hill and it's

829
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:08,720
starting to spread down. And so Pioneer

830
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:10,800
Center and now Rico Smokehouse and also

831
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,880
moving up the hill towards Gladish is

832
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,800
the uh telephone exchange building at

833
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,119
125 Northeast Olsen. Um we did uh accept

834
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,480
two special tax valuations which is some

835
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:24,960
of the RCW assigned duties that we have

836
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,920
is we have the power as a commission to

837
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,920
grant a essentially a tax freeze for 10

838
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,359
years for comm for properties that are

839
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,160
on the register that are preserved. Um,

840
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:37,839
two items in conclusion here that I hope

841
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,000
that the council is aware of and that

842
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:42,240
hope that you'll see in the future. Um,

843
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,839
we are the recipient, the city is the

844
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,400
recipient of a certified local

845
00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:49,280
government grant from the uh, state

846
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,359
DAHHP department and that is

847
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,800
investigating the viability and

848
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:54,320
providing the underpinnings for

849
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,720
potentially developing a historic

850
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,119
district in downtown Pullman. Um this is

851
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:01,200
thanks to a lot of momentum that DPA has

852
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,480
generated but also in terms of looking

853
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,320
at some of the individual property

854
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,236
owners downtown looking at this as being

855
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,440
a positive thing for the city. And

856
00:39:06,236 --> 00:39:09,119
[snorts] the other is the Red Brick

857
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Roads Monument which is something that

858
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,760
you may or may not be aware is on the

859
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,599
CIP. It is included in the CIP process.

860
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:19,599
It's just unfunded um through uh

861
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,440
essentially passing the hat among

862
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:24,079
different city organizations and members

863
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,359
of the commission. We are up to $5,000

864
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:27,920
that have been raised on the private

865
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:30,079
side in donations for that. It is not a

866
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,680
terribly large budget item and we do

867
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:34,000
think it would be one thing that would

868
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,520
be if we had friends that came in from

869
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,599
out of town. Wouldn't it be nice to walk

870
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,280
up on the bluff, look at the the view of

871
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,760
downtown from up there and be able to

872
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,320
marvel at the National Historic Register

873
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,320
plaque and the local register plaque

874
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,720
that we have sitting in a closet wishing

875
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,480
that it had some place to be displayed.

876
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:53,200
With that, I'd be happy to answer any

877
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,680
questions the council may have.

878
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,520
With that, Council Member Schumis,

879
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,480
» Again, I don't have any questions. I

880
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,520
would just like to thank you and the

881
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,359
whole commission um and the DPA,

882
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,359
although they're not here, for their

883
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:09,680
commitment to

884
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:12,160
uh helping to make downtown a historic

885
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,880
area. I think that's amazing and I'm so

886
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,119
excited to join you guys in that. And I

887
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,119
just wanted to thank you for your

888
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,640
contribution to Rico's as well. Much

889
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,960
appreciated. Thank you.

890
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,079
» Thank you. I I am thrilled that we have

891
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,920
a downtown property and I enjoy that one

892
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:30,920
just because the story to be told is so

893
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,920
good.

894
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,320
» Um, one thing I wanted to point out is I

895
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,880
very much appreciate your annual walking

896
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,240
tour that you do and and the fact that

897
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,640
you also had a special one for seniors.

898
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,960
Um, and so that was something that I I I

899
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,400
I appreciated that not only did you have

900
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,240
the tour, but then they also thought

901
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,400
about for those that might have some

902
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:54,960
mobility issues. Is there a way to be

903
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,800
able to still have them experience that?

904
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,960
So, and if you wanted to say more about

905
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,680
that. I I did skip that in my notes, but

906
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,839
a big shout out to my the the vice chair

907
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,280
of our commission who you'll hear from

908
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:07,599
as the chair of the planning commission,

909
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,240
but John Anderson is who spearheads our

910
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,400
senior walking tour and he does that

911
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:15,040
single-handedly without much support

912
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,480
from staff or commissioners and I very

913
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,240
much appreciate that and I think that's

914
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,560
one of our highlights. As a commission

915
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:22,319
as a whole, we do host a walking tour

916
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,400
every summer. It kind of bounces around.

917
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:26,400
We keep trying to fine-tune it to find

918
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,480
the right weather and the right mix of

919
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,040
buildings. But if you watch in the

920
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,280
summer, June or July, um we will do an

921
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,440
evening, usually a Friday night walking

922
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,520
tour and we'll touch on five to seven

923
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,119
properties around town. And we have a

924
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,480
good time in learning about the history

925
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,839
of those and then being able to talk

926
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,000
about it with people on a beautiful

927
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:45,760
summer evening. So, it is one of those

928
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,280
things. We don't we don't get huge

929
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,960
attendance, but it is one of those fun

930
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,480
things you can do in Pullman that you

931
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,680
get to learn more about our community.

932
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,160
So, thank you for that reminder.

933
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,440
» Council member Vance,

934
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,280
» Thank you for your presentation. Um,

935
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,160
with the 5,000 that's been raised

936
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,720
privately, um, I guess how much total

937
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,079
needs to be raised for that ballpark.

938
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,119
» Well, the longer we wait, the more it

939
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:14,400
costs. The most recent estimate is in

940
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:16,400
the $ 35 to $40,000 range. And so, I I

941
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,640
maybe we can pass the hat often enough

942
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,400
and fast enough that we would catch up.

943
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Um, there is hope that this would be

944
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,720
identified as maybe a tourist attraction

945
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,520
or as a parks and wreck property or

946
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:31,920
project. Um, it is, like I said, it's on

947
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,000
the CIP. It is a minor project. You have

948
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,319
much bigger budget

949
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,079
demons to wrestle with than that, but it

950
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:39,599
is one that is near and dear to the the

951
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:41,200
commission's heart, and we will continue

952
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:44,000
to try to press for that.

953
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,599
» Thank you, Council Member Schumis.

954
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440
» Can I just piggy back off that question?

955
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,319
Where does a person go to donate for

956
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:53,119
that?

957
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:56,800
» Um, actually that's a great question.

958
00:42:53,119 --> 00:43:00,280
» Uh, where do you donate to the uh

959
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,280
» The front desk?

960
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,480
» Yes.

961
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,079
» U So, Kurt, do you know within the parks

962
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,640
and wreck with the different donations?

963
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:10,000
Is it listed in that? It's not there.

964
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Okay. I was just trying to think if it

965
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,400
was there.

966
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,680
So it's a So that's where you you would

967
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
go to donate.

968
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
» Ask Eric.

969
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,440
» We'll have to highlight that in the

970
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,839
next.

971
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,000
» And so for those watching at home, you

972
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:26,984
can donate in the city at the at the

973
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,984
front desk. [laughter]

974
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,400
» Any other with that? Ned, thank you very

975
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,079
much.

976
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,079
» Thank you.

977
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:35,839
» Uh and then the last presentation

978
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,960
tonight uh with committees and then

979
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,960
we'll go back through the ones that

980
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,440
didn't present. So planning commission

981
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,440
John Anderson. John, good to have you

982
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,440
here.

983
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,160
» U my name is John Anderson. I'm uh here

984
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:53,680
as chair of the planning commission. I

985
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
do want to say if you think you have a

986
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,440
good time on the historic walking tour,

987
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,599
those of us on the commission really

988
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,560
look forward to it. It re really is a

989
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:04,480
good time. Um [clears throat]

990
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,640
I'm here as chair of the planning

991
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,200
commission. Uh we typically communicate

992
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,280
with you folks on paper. You get lots

993
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,280
and lots of paper from us at various

994
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,359
times, but I'm taking this opportunity

995
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,920
to address you to show that the planning

996
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:20,000
commission consists of real people who

997
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,079
consider issues very carefully before

998
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000
making recommendations to you. The

999
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:26,160
commission consists of seven people just

1000
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,560
like me who are nominated by the mayor

1001
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,839
and approved by you, the council. I

1002
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,680
assure you that whenever you have

1003
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:34,000
something from us in your packet, we

1004
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,760
have read everything carefully. in

1005
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:41,040
particular when people write letters or

1006
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:43,280
messages to us. Uh we all seven members

1007
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,520
of the commission have read every letter

1008
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,440
and listen to every presentation. The

1009
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,920
people who write or speak to us expect

1010
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,319
us to take their opinions seriously and

1011
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,040
we do. They also expect that when we

1012
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:56,720
make a recommendation to you, not only

1013
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,720
will we consider their opinions, but

1014
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:01,040
that the council will hear their voices

1015
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,960
as well through the planning commission.

1016
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,640
It isn't only the loudest voices that we

1017
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,640
hear, but the ones expressing the most

1018
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,920
careful judgments accompanied by the

1019
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,720
rationale for those judgments.

1020
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,720
I urge you to consider carefully which

1021
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:16,240
voices you will hear, especially when

1022
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,240
people take advantage of a council

1023
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:20,400
meeting to be the last voices that you

1024
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:22,000
hear. In many cases, when the planning

1025
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,839
commission has heard from the first

1026
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,359
people to speak or to write, the

1027
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:28,400
commissioners are remembering those

1028
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:30,319
voices when we make a recommendation. I

1029
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,640
hope you also consider those same people

1030
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:34,480
who were the first to speak. And I hope

1031
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,319
that you will remember that seven

1032
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,160
volunteers from the community who are

1033
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:40,640
making recommendations to you based on

1034
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,000
the most careful deliberations.

1035
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,440
That's all I have to say. If you have

1036
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,240
questions for me, I'll be glad to try to

1037
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,839
answer them.

1038
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,400
» Council Weller.

1039
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:53,520
» Thank you, M. Mayor John. I I so much

1040
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,720
appreciate what you just said. I think

1041
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,720
that gets to the heart of

1042
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:04,079
I mean really I I

1043
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:07,280
you all all of the commissions

1044
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:09,200
um put in your your time, your passion,

1045
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,160
your energy.

1046
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,079
You are the ones that [clears throat]

1047
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,240
and I've met with a quite a few

1048
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:19,359
different commission members from

1049
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:23,680
different, you know, over the years. We

1050
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:25,839
rely on what you go through. we get a

1051
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:29,599
small snippet

1052
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:35,040
and all of you have and take so much

1053
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:38,079
time and I think that often gets lost

1054
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,079
on us as a council and not just not just

1055
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:43,599
just the current council but even in the

1056
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:45,920
past. So, I I just wanted to make sure

1057
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:48,640
to take some time and and tell you thank

1058
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,640
you and to all the commission members

1059
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,960
because it's

1060
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:57,200
they're not getting paid

1061
00:46:52,960 --> 00:47:00,319
and you know they're not doing it to,

1062
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:03,040
you know, have some ulterior motive or

1063
00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:05,200
agenda. You're doing it because you care

1064
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,960
and that that

1065
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,200
is really amazing. So, I want to just

1066
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,720
say thank you so much and thank you for

1067
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,119
putting that out there because that's

1068
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,119
very important.

1069
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:23,040
Any others?

1070
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,440
If not, thank you very much, John.

1071
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Um,

1072
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,040
so what I'd like to do is go back and

1073
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:34,240
kind of is touched on any that we didn't

1074
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,839
have presenters for and and you'll see

1075
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,680
Pat was going to present, but she said,

1076
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:40,160
"Hey, I presented not that long ago

1077
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,280
about lodging tax, so she deferred her

1078
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,520
time." But

1079
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,880
» Mayor, um, Kate Watts from the library

1080
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,280
board would like to present as well. I

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00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,760
missed her in the report.

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00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,920
» Oh, I

1083
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:56,800
I sorry I did. I missed it.

1084
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» Okay, so Kate,

1085
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,920
» We we we we do love you. [laughter]

1086
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,920
» Thing things get lost in translation.

1087
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It's okay. We're good. We're good. We're

1088
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,119
good.

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» Um so, good evening. I am Kate. Um I'm

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the chair of the Neil Public Library

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00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:15,760
Board of Trustees and um I'm just

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00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,280
honored to serve on the board. Um really

1093
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,960
given the importance of access and

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00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,280
information and resources as Mayor

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00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,359
Benjamin noted um in his proclamation

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00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,359
earlier. Uh before I talk about the

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00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:26,800
board's goals for 2026 and beyond, I

1098
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:29,520
want to recognize two things we are

1099
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,119
particularly grateful for. First, the

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00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,200
board is deeply appreciative of our

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00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:35,280
library staff. They've continued to

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,040
provide excellent service to our

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00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,680
community while adjusting thoughtfully

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00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,240
and creatively as necessary in response

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00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,000
to budget reductions. So to Stacy and

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00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,400
the crew, we're just really really

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00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,680
grateful for the work that you put into

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00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,000
finding solutions. Um we really do

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00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,319
recognize the work that that that takes

1110
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000
and we are enormously grateful for the

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00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:58,640
staff's ongoing commitment to both the

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00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,920
library and the people that it serves.

1113
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Um we are also grateful and frankly um

1114
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:08,160
still very amazed by the generous gift

1115
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,520
from Elellanar Makowsky's estate to the

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00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,599
library. It is a remarkable investment

1117
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,160
um in the Pullman community and the

1118
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:19,599
library's future and what a lovely

1119
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,880
surprise it was. Um the future is very

1120
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,440
much what the board has been thinking

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00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,520
about as we developed our goals. Um this

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00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,720
is to my knowledge and the best I could

1123
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,400
find the board's first formal set of

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00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,319
goals. So that was an exciting process

1125
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:38,000
and I think a very important exercise

1126
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:40,800
for us to begin. Um we see the goals as

1127
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,800
priorities for us to begin an ongoing

1128
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,359
process of planning, evaluation, and

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00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,680
improvement. Our goals focus, as you can

1130
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:49,119
see um in the document, on maintaining

1131
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,280
excellent library services,

1132
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:53,119
strengthening community partnerships,

1133
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,200
increasing access and engagement,

1134
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:57,040
improving our facilities, demonstrating

1135
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,040
both responsible stewardship and the

1136
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,319
library's value to the community, and

1137
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,640
strengthening the board's own

1138
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:03,920
governance. We did our best too to

1139
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,319
intentionally align our work with the

1140
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,839
city's strategic priorities. We do

1141
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:09,760
recognize that some of these are

1142
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:11,760
immediate goals and others require

1143
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,520
longer term planning. One of the things

1144
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,280
that we want to do is become more

1145
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,960
intentional about that planning rather

1146
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,760
than treating these goals as simply a

1147
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,119
list we revisit once a year. So, as this

1148
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,040
is our first set of goals, we're trying

1149
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:25,359
to think very carefully about setting up

1150
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:29,119
a pattern moving forward that will set

1151
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:32,000
up future board um for success. Um, and

1152
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,440
so, um, Ariel Maderos has agreed to

1153
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,280
spend some time with the board hopefully

1154
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,880
in October to talk about strategic

1155
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,040
planning and helping us think about how

1156
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,720
we can build a sustainable process for

1157
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,559
setting priorities, evaluating our

1158
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:44,400
progress, and looking ahead. Thank you,

1159
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:46,960
Ariel, for being willing to work with

1160
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,400
us. We appreciate it. Um, ultimately

1161
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,240
these goals reflect what we see as the

1162
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,920
board's responsibilities to support the

1163
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:54,240
library staff, be thoughtful stewards of

1164
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,240
the library and its resources, advocate

1165
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,760
for excellent and sustainable services,

1166
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,839
and to help ensure that Neil Public

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00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,760
Library continues to be a welcoming and

1168
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:04,640
valuable community resource for all of

1169
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,319
Pullman. Thank you for some time to

1170
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,119
speak tonight. And if there are any

1171
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:12,160
questions or comments,

1172
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,599
» Any any for the library? I start with an

1173
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,599
I. I know Ann's going to want to say

1174
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,160
something. So, thank you. Council member

1175
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:19,119
Parks.

1176
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,599
» Well, thank you. This is wonderful. Um

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00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:24,160
that we all I mean I witnessed this, but

1178
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:28,000
to see its final form is really really

1179
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:30,640
good. I just want to make the um these

1180
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,119
goals really address more than just

1181
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:36,079
being a welcoming place or a place of

1182
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:38,319
resources. It addresses the place in the

1183
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:42,000
community that our library holds, which

1184
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:45,599
is a gathering place, a safe space,

1185
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,400
um a welcoming space, a a space for

1186
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:51,200
everybody, no matter who they are or

1187
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,680
what they want to do, access in the

1188
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,680
library or or just be in the library to

1189
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,200
to work. I just told my husband not too

1190
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,599
long ago because he said something

1191
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,200
about, you know, he was in a coffee shop

1192
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,200
or something and I said, you know, you

1193
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,440
can buy a coffee and go sit in the

1194
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,200
library and work and he was like, "Oh,

1195
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,119
yes." You know, without having worrying

1196
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,760
about taking up too much time. So things

1197
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:13,359
like that, too. Um, and just and also

1198
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,760
the conduit within the community, the

1199
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:18,160
conduit with downtown, with with WSU,

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00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,960
with the schools and with local

1201
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,200
entities, with art, things like that. So

1202
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,200
when we think about the library, it's

1203
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,160
it's really much more than just a

1204
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,880
building with books and media in it. It

1205
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,000
so it's I support obviously its

1206
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,800
importance.

1207
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,280
» Thank you. An

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00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,280
» Council member Weller.

1209
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,319
» Well, you know, of course I had to say

1210
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,960
something.

1211
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:45,359
Um

1212
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,960
I grew up in the library. It was my safe

1213
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:52,240
space. Um, as a kid being bullied, that

1214
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:55,520
was where I went. Safe in the books, in

1215
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:59,520
the, you know, bookshelves,

1216
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:03,336
kind of hiding. Um, but always made me

1217
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:05,119
feel welcome. Um, okay. [snorts]

1218
00:53:03,336 --> 00:53:08,400
[clears throat and cough]

1219
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:12,400
I'm so impressed about how it's grown

1220
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:16,480
and how under, you know, new leadership.

1221
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:18,319
Um, it continues and

1222
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,319
it is

1223
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:22,640
a place. It's a community jewel. I've

1224
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:25,839
always felt that

1225
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,720
and um it continues to be. I'm I'm so

1226
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:30,880
impressed. I'm a little angry at Ann for

1227
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:34,319
taking my spot on library board, but I

1228
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,880
did give it to her. Um,

1229
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:39,680
I miss you all, but I really appreciate

1230
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,319
the place that the library has had for

1231
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,800
people like me and and others. And, you

1232
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:46,480
know, keep doing a great job.

1233
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,160
» That means a lot. You know, I didn't

1234
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,520
grow up in Pullman. I grew up in a

1235
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,400
different small town, but the library

1236
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,000
was that for me. And so, I yeah, I can I

1237
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,280
can really relate to that. I think it's

1238
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,359
I think it's a truth for a lot of

1239
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,119
people.

1240
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:00,559
» Kate, I appreciate it. you talked about

1241
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:03,280
this is the first time we've gone

1242
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:04,720
through this process and and one of the

1243
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,559
things as we were going through the

1244
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:09,200
goals and priorities from the council

1245
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:12,160
side, we were saying, do our boards and

1246
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,800
commissions actually line up with the

1247
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,400
vision of where we're trying as the as a

1248
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,960
council where they're trying to take the

1249
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,119
community? And that was why we said,

1250
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,440
well, let's pass these down to the

1251
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:25,520
boards, commissions, and committees and

1252
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:30,160
have them take that look at this and

1253
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,319
look at with that concept to see um and

1254
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,400
also to help each of the boards,

1255
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:37,040
commissions, and committees have a

1256
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,520
vision for the future that it's not

1257
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:42,400
that, oh, I'm just doing busy work

1258
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,960
because this is the busy work I do, but

1259
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,880
instead, what is it that you're building

1260
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,280
and and whose lives are you impacting?

1261
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,000
acting and and how you're how you're

1262
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,000
growing our community. So, I appreciate

1263
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,480
how you you talked about seeing that

1264
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,640
because that was what we were hoping was

1265
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,119
going to get portrayed down is to

1266
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,119
understand that we wanted we wanted you

1267
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,880
to see that you're part of the process,

1268
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:06,559
not that you're just off doing, you

1269
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,440
know, this busy work type of a thing.

1270
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:08,800
So, thank you.

1271
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,559
» Thank you. I thank you for saying that.

1272
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,880
I I think that it creates a place for

1273
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,200
that to be sustained and to not feel

1274
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,280
like it is just a one-off here or there,

1275
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,200
but that there is a process that we are

1276
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,200
a part of and and in communicating back

1277
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,319
and forth between the board and the

1278
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,200
city. So, thank you.

1279
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:29,520
» Great. Thank you.

1280
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,599
So if we look at um the

1281
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,040
I just wanted to address we didn't have

1282
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:36,160
presentations from the cemetery

1283
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,359
committee the civil service the left

1284
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,599
board lodging tax uh parks and wreck and

1285
00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:44,720
then the volunteer firefighters uh

1286
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:47,119
relief and pension board. Were there any

1287
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:48,799
are there any comments or questions

1288
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:51,760
council members have on any of those

1289
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:53,280
reports? Because part of this is the the

1290
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,920
boards are coming to us saying this is

1291
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,680
what they're wanting to work on and and

1292
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,119
so far what I've heard from council is

1293
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,000
you like the direction they're all

1294
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:04,079
going. You don't have any concerns or or

1295
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,079
want to pull anything back if if nothing

1296
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:07,839
else you want to expand their vision is

1297
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:10,400
what I'm hearing in some cases with

1298
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:12,960
that. Council member McDonald.

1299
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,760
So, I definitely appreciate uh this and

1300
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:18,880
I love the way that uh you all kind of

1301
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,119
aligned the our goals with where you're

1302
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,079
headed. I'm not sure exactly how we're

1303
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:26,480
supposed to respond to uh some of

1304
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:28,799
there's some specifics about like asking

1305
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,400
for additional headcount and that kind

1306
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:33,200
of stuff. Obviously, we're not in the

1307
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,839
best position to be doing that. just

1308
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,160
like do we just take that under like

1309
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:39,680
advisement [snorts] or like that's the

1310
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,920
only thing that makes me nervous is when

1311
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,280
there's like extra spending it's like I

1312
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,000
don't know if we have money for that.

1313
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,839
» Well and and that's so uh if you

1314
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,480
remember uh you set goals and policies

1315
00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:54,960
and and then and goals and priorities

1316
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,559
those are used to inform the staff as

1317
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:01,520
they're working to bring a a proposed

1318
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:04,480
budget to you. this is another piece

1319
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,319
that's in there. Um, and so this is

1320
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,720
something that if it's something that is

1321
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:11,119
is important, it'd be good to

1322
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:13,440
communicate now as staff is working

1323
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:16,960
through this. Uh, but under but as you

1324
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:20,400
said, we're under this constraint. Um,

1325
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:23,359
in the process. So, so it's it's this

1326
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,240
fine line of yes, understanding the

1327
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:28,160
value, but at the same time, it's we're

1328
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,240
not flushed with a lot of revenue right

1329
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,000
now. Um, and I think that's I think

1330
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,200
that's what you were more more saying in

1331
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,520
that case.

1332
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,839
» Yeah, definitely. I like I love that a

1333
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:41,119
lot of you pulled in the we're in a

1334
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:44,640
unique community as a a university town

1335
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:47,040
pulling in the the ways to connect with

1336
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,119
uh with the university itself and some

1337
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,119
of the people that come with the

1338
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:53,599
university and I think just trying to

1339
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:55,599
find creative ways to keep traction on

1340
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:57,359
those things recognizing that we're

1341
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,920
under some constraints there.

1342
00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:02,079
» Yeah. Other

1343
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:04,000
comments, thoughts? Council member

1344
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:05,920
Parks.

1345
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,559
» Uh, as a council representative on the

1346
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:12,079
left one board, I just wanted to

1347
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:15,119
highlight um the

1348
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:17,599
tenative future possibly of the funding

1349
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,400
for this from the state of Washington.

1350
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:22,400
Just like every single other thing, the

1351
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,400
funding is looking they're looking at

1352
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,920
cutting the funding significantly. And

1353
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:30,000
for those of you that don't know, this

1354
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:36,559
is a um this is a board that approves

1355
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:40,079
um the city funding um medical care and

1356
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:42,880
um hospitalizations and things for our

1357
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:45,760
uh left one

1358
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,960
like police officers and firefighters.

1359
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:52,480
And so, um, it's very important and it

1360
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,799
is very expensive because they are

1361
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:58,000
typically they're in a in long-term

1362
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:59,119
care. And so, anyway, I just want I

1363
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,119
would like to just make the council

1364
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:03,200
aware that as we're speaking, think

1365
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:05,520
about our legislative priorities. I

1366
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:09,520
mean, or if we're just meeting with them

1367
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:11,040
to um to kind of have this on their

1368
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,799
radar as well.

1369
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,480
» Yeah. and and we're having that

1370
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,559
conversation at the association

1371
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,319
Washington city's legislative committee

1372
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:22,640
because one of the things that the state

1373
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:25,200
is is doing is they're um basically

1374
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,200
doing a clawback of funds. So they're

1375
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,599
they're pulling funds to reduce the

1376
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,760
number of funds that's available. But

1377
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:33,680
there is a legal question that's going

1378
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:36,480
on because those funds were initially

1379
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:39,599
paid in by the individual and by the

1380
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:42,000
cities. But now the clawback is going to

1381
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:44,240
the state and so there's a question of

1382
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,480
should actually the money be returned to

1383
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,640
people or should it be returned to the

1384
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,119
cities that or the employers that paid

1385
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,640
into it. So there's there's some

1386
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:56,240
conversations that are happening because

1387
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,839
of that. Council member Weller,

1388
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,480
» Can I just say [clears throat]

1389
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:06,319
thank you Ann for sharing that. Um it's

1390
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,559
really disappointing that the state

1391
01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:11,559
shame on them.

1392
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:11,559
» So

1393
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,400
» Yeah.

1394
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,960
» Anyway, but yeah, it's just

1395
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:22,400
» Yeah, I just want to bring it out.

1396
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:25,040
» It's not okay. Yeah.

1397
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Any other council member Vance?

1398
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,079
» I just wanted to express my appreciation

1399
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:32,240
for all the presenters uh tonight. Those

1400
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:34,160
uh great reports. Thank you.

1401
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,920
» Yeah.

1402
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,520
And we didn't have a presentation with

1403
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:42,240
parks and wreck, but is it is a very

1404
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,640
hefty report as they talked about all

1405
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,880
all the parks and wreck commission is

1406
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,960
involved in and touches. It's it's

1407
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,599
important that way. Uh the last thing

1408
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:54,880
that I I did want to leave us with is we

1409
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:57,359
just heard uh from those that are

1410
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,160
serving on these uh boards, commissions,

1411
01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:03,040
and committees uh and you heard their

1412
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,200
passion and and what they're doing. We

1413
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,000
do have some openings that are

1414
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:10,640
happening. And I want to make sure uh

1415
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,200
just once again put that plug in. We

1416
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,520
currently have openings on the planning

1417
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:20,400
commission, environmental resilience and

1418
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:23,119
the cemetery uh committees and the

1419
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,960
library has openings that is that's

1420
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,119
going to be happening at the end of the

1421
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,119
year. Uh and they'd actually like to

1422
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:31,119
start the review process because the

1423
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:33,920
board actually does part of the review

1424
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:38,319
before it comes to me. So the library

1425
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:40,799
board is also uh has o openings too for

1426
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:42,799
it. So, and you can go to the city's

1427
01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:45,440
website in order to submit an

1428
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:46,480
application and and start that process.

1429
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,960
And did you

1430
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,079
» Yeah, I was just going to I was going to

1431
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,520
mention this tonight and then I thought,

1432
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,880
well, no, I probably don't need to. But

1433
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,200
I was on there yesterday because

1434
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:58,240
somebody was asking me about being

1435
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,280
involved in some city commissions or or

1436
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:04,000
committees and um I told them about

1437
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,960
police advisory and on the website they

1438
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:09,359
are listed as one that have vacancies

1439
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,720
» And and the police advisory isn't filled

1440
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:12,160
through the council. It's actually

1441
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,200
filled through the police chief.

1442
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,240
» No, I know. Oh,

1443
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,880
» But but um and so I I don't want to

1444
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:22,000
speak out of hand

1445
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,040
whether of

1446
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,119
because I know we had paused recruitment

1447
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,280
and I didn't know if we were ready to

1448
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,319
recruit again for the police advisory

1449
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,319
commission.

1450
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:36,040
» There are

1451
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:36,040
» If you can come to the mic,

1452
01:02:36,468 --> 01:02:38,799
[laughter]

1453
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:41,040
sorry I'm putting you on the spot with

1454
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:44,079
this one. We

1455
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,480
um council No, that's why I'm here is to

1456
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:48,880
to help out when I can. uh the advisory

1457
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,200
committee, we do have some positions

1458
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,280
that are available and we're going to

1459
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,799
meet once a month. I highly recommend if

1460
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,799
someone's interested in joining the

1461
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:00,400
advisory committee, it is a public

1462
01:02:56,799 --> 01:03:02,400
meeting that happens on uh the first

1463
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,799
Monday of the month, I believe it is at

1464
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,480
5:30 um here in the council chambers.

1465
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:08,559
And they're welcome to attend and kind

1466
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:11,119
of get an idea of what what the the

1467
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:13,200
advisory committee is about. Um I won't

1468
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:17,119
use this time to do any recruiting, but

1469
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:20,240
uh please stop by. Thank you.

1470
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:23,359
» Great. And with that, thank you for uh

1471
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,599
th those who were here. We we appreciate

1472
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:28,319
your service, your your dedication to

1473
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:29,920
our community uh and how you shape our

1474
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:33,119
community and make it the welcoming

1475
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,039
community it is. And you really are the

1476
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:36,640
you you touch a lot of the community

1477
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:39,359
members before we even get to touch

1478
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,520
them. So definitely appreciate that.

1479
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:44,000
Thank you very much.

1480
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,760
Next item is the consent agenda. The

1481
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,760
items listed under the consent agenda

1482
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,839
considered to be routine in nature and

1483
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,440
will be enacted by a single motion of

1484
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:53,440
the city council without separate

1485
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,280
discussion. With that, I'd entertain a

1486
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,119
motion to read the consent agenda by

1487
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,400
title only.

1488
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,720
» Second.

1489
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,359
» Without any discussion,

1490
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,760
all those in favor signify by saying I.

1491
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:07,359
» I.

1492
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,400
» Any opposed? Motion passes. Uh that if

1493
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:08,960
you could please read the consent

1494
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,839
agenda.

1495
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,680
» Yes. Thank you, mayor. Uh, item A is a

1496
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:17,200
motion to dispense with the reading of

1497
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:19,839
the August 25th, 2026 meeting minutes

1498
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,440
and approve them as submitted. Item B, a

1499
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:24,480
motion to approve dispersements for

1500
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:29,200
electronic transfers numbered 872

1501
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:31,599
through 877 totaling $4,3.71.

1502
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,280
Item C, a motion to approve the

1503
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:35,599
dispersements for accounts payable

1504
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,520
checks numbered 2011

1505
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:41,000
35351

1506
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,000
through 201135407

1507
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,599
totaling $259,288.

1508
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:51,119
Item D, a motion authorizing the mayor

1509
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:56,160
to execute an emergency medical services

1510
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:59,160
agreement WSU contract number SPC

1511
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,160
0004109

1512
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,200
between Washington State University

1513
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:06,079
Athletics and the city of Pullman to

1514
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:09,920
provide emergency medical services

1515
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:12,720
in conjunction with uh Giza Field

1516
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,760
football games during the 2026 football

1517
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,359
season. Item E, a motion authorizing

1518
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,240
amendment number five to the law

1519
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:24,559
enforcement support agreement WSU

1520
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:26,160
contract SPC 002964

1521
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:28,160
between Washington State University

1522
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:31,200
athletics and the city of Pullman to

1523
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:34,240
provide police assistance for the 2026

1524
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:38,640
football season and other WSU events.

1525
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:40,880
Item F, resolution number R-45-26,

1526
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,240
a resolution authorizing the acceptance

1527
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:47,119
and exception, I'm sorry, execution of a

1528
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,520
universal transit access pass program

1529
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:51,440
agreement between the city of Pullman

1530
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:55,359
and Washington State University for the

1531
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:58,960
2026 2027 school year. And finally,

1532
01:05:55,359 --> 01:06:01,440
resolution number R-46-26,

1533
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,760
a resolution establishing locations in

1534
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,240
the city of Pullman where parking is

1535
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,920
prohibited. So, do any council members

1536
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,520
desire to have any items removed from

1537
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,160
the consent agenda to be discussed

1538
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,400
separately?

1539
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,880
Seeing none, I see entertain a motion to

1540
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,160
approve the consent agenda.

1541
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,720
» Move to approve.

1542
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,799
» Second.

1543
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:24,400
» Second. With that, any discussion?

1544
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:25,520
Seeing none. All those in favor signify

1545
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,240
by saying I.

1546
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,079
» I.

1547
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:33,359
» Any opposed? Motion passes. Uh, next on

1548
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:36,079
the regular agenda that we have R.J. Lot

1549
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:38,000
uh related to a resolution around

1550
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:39,599
housing. That

1551
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,680
» Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council.

1552
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:43,680
Uh, this item on the agenda this evening

1553
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,799
is a resolution in support of Catholic

1554
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:50,319
Charities. They are looking to conclude

1555
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:53,039
conduct a housing market survey for

1556
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:57,280
those who are unhoused or who have an

1557
01:06:53,039 --> 01:07:00,079
income of 60% of the area median income.

1558
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,760
Uh Catholic Charities provides a wide

1559
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:04,559
variety of services. One of those is

1560
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,319
housing. Um they've got a facility here

1561
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:07,839
in Pullman at the intersection of

1562
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:10,559
Kamayakin and Mackenzie across the

1563
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:12,400
street from the police station.

1564
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:13,680
The Catholic Charities has offices

1565
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,000
throughout Eastern Washington in

1566
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,480
Spokane. Walaw Wala, Wanachi, Richland,

1567
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,000
and other locations.

1568
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,559
Catholic Charities would pay and

1569
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,480
contract for the study to evaluate the

1570
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:26,640
opportunity for them to meet a need here

1571
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,039
in our community. Catholic Charities

1572
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:32,079
would at the end of that study provide

1573
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:35,599
that conclusion to the city of Pullman.

1574
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:37,359
On August 17th, 2026, the city's housing

1575
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:40,079
work group, which contains council

1576
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:43,039
members for Jiren, McDonald and Vance,

1577
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:46,400
met to discuss and recommend a an

1578
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:48,240
approval of a the

1579
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,760
Catholic Charities doing the market

1580
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:54,640
study on housing. So before you is a

1581
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:56,400
resolution of support for Catholic

1582
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:00,319
Charities to just to do just that,

1583
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:03,119
provide a market housing study.

1584
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:05,359
So with that uh first is questions of

1585
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:07,599
R.J. and then we'll get into discussion

1586
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:09,599
related to that with that question. So

1587
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:12,079
Council Member Weller

1588
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:15,119
or questions or comments. All right. I'm

1589
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:20,799
going to say comments here. All right.

1590
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:23,839
Yes. Yes. Yes. This has been planned for

1591
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:26,159
since 2013.

1592
01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:28,880
We have been trying to get Catholic

1593
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:31,759
Charities. Sorry R.J. I'm not like

1594
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,279
trying to get intense on you, but I am.

1595
01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:36,560
All right.

1596
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:39,359
Past poverty awareness task force that I

1597
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:41,279
was chair on. We were trying to get

1598
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:44,159
Catholic Charities to come and look at

1599
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:46,239
Pullman and they said, "Ah, you know,

1600
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:50,159
we're not sure."

1601
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:52,239
So, died down, you know. Meanwhile,

1602
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:56,400
homelessness and those in poverty

1603
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:58,080
continued to raise rise. Um, fairly

1604
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:03,839
recently

1605
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:06,960
there was uh a group where

1606
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:12,400
I like to call them Herb's heroes and it

1607
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:17,199
was formed by Dr. Herb Hill from WSU

1608
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:19,120
to once again kind of reanimate the

1609
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:25,199
poverty awareness task force because we

1610
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:28,319
went down after CO. Um Trevor Vance

1611
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:31,520
was there with me when we were beginning

1612
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:34,799
to plan and strategize how to best bring

1613
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:39,839
this to the city. And I want to thank

1614
01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:43,359
you so much for being there and and you

1615
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:45,040
know pushing forward with this and

1616
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:49,440
tend to get a little bit emotional about

1617
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:51,600
it, but I will say this is a huge step

1618
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:56,480
for us to help those that are homeless

1619
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:59,440
and those are in poverty. And um

1620
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:02,560
I just I want to thank you R.J. the the

1621
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:06,960
housing group for their work on this.

1622
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:09,280
It's very important. So, um, anyway,

1623
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,719
sorry about getting so excited and so

1624
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:16,280
passionate, but, uh, yeah, means a lot.

1625
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:16,280
» Council member FJarn,

1626
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,760
» Apologies. I have some words for the

1627
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:22,000
discussion portion, but I'll use my time

1628
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,400
to continually sing praise to R.J. for

1629
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,760
his support of the housing workg group.

1630
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,400
Thank you so much. We definitely

1631
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,960
appreciate uh you being there and your

1632
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,880
expertise in making affordable housing

1633
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,719
accessible to everybody in Pullman.

1634
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,480
» Council member Vance.

1635
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:39,280
» Uh thank you. I I do have one quick

1636
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:40,960
question and um you might have the

1637
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,679
answer. If not, that's okay. I believe

1638
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,520
that um it was specified that after

1639
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:47,120
Catholic Charities concluded the survey

1640
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,000
that they they'd come to council and

1641
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,199
present on it. That's correct, right?

1642
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,560
» I don't know if they would come to

1643
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:53,440
council, but they would provide that

1644
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,760
study to us.

1645
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:58,400
» Okay, gotcha. That sounds good. Thank

1646
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,719
you. Um, yeah, I just wanted to express

1647
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,719
um, you know, I've been involved with

1648
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:04,880
uh, the housing from a couple different

1649
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:08,000
angles. So, I'm also really excited for

1650
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,159
for this to be brought forward and um,

1651
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,320
that that group has an actual name, but

1652
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:14,579
I just know it as Herb's Heroes from

1653
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,080
Council Member Weller as well. So,

1654
01:11:14,579 --> 01:11:19,040
[laughter]

1655
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,760
» Any other questions of R.J.? If not, I'd

1656
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,360
entertain a motion.

1657
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,920
» Move to approve.

1658
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,520
» Second. Second with that that if you

1659
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:32,120
could read the resolution.

1660
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:32,120
» Yes. Uh resolution number R-47-26

1661
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:36,239
a resolution providing support for

1662
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,000
Catholic Charities to perform a housing

1663
01:11:36,239 --> 01:11:40,640
market study to provide housing for

1664
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:45,040
individuals who are unhoused or have an

1665
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:46,880
income of 60% of the area median income.

1666
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,320
» With that discussion, council member

1667
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,000
Fger.

1668
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,520
» Thank you. Just a few words from the

1669
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,600
housing work group. The housing work

1670
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,280
group supports this study. Uh but we'll

1671
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,600
continue to focus our work on the

1672
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,320
missing middle housing between 60 and

1673
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,159
200% AMI. Uh we hope that Catholic

1674
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,719
Charities will look into working with

1675
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:07,360
existing stakeholders already serving

1676
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:10,239
houses households below 60% like the

1677
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,480
community action center Habitat and

1678
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:14,719
Hills and Rivers Trust. Um even though

1679
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:17,760
we are not currently pursuing uh rental

1680
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:19,440
options in that 60% bracket, uh our work

1681
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,040
group recognizes that this could be an

1682
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,520
important gap to fill for non-

1683
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,520
studentent families. And so, uh, with

1684
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,600
that, thank you, Catholic Charities.

1685
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,040
» Council member Weller,

1686
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,719
» Funny you mentioned that because

1687
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:34,320
Community Action Center was a part of

1688
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:36,719
the group, Herbs Heroes. Um, I'm we're

1689
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:39,600
still trying to figure out homeless work

1690
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:43,920
group, something along those lines. But,

1691
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:47,760
um, same with, uh, Dr. uh, Dublinsky.

1692
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,640
Steve Dublink. Uh, yeah, Steve. Dr.

1693
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,560
Steve. Yep.

1694
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,480
» Sorry. Father Steve, Father Steve,

1695
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:56,480
Father Steve Dublinsky,

1696
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:58,640
» And uh you know, Dr. Herb Hill. Um

1697
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,800
» Let's see, there's a lot of people, but

1698
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:05,120
I think it's really really important to

1699
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:11,440
mention um the person who started this

1700
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:13,199
going was uh Pat O'Neal. Um and I always

1701
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:16,320
feel it's important to give credit where

1702
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:19,199
where credit's due. And um also

1703
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:21,920
Christine Zacharias. Um, there are so

1704
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:24,239
many different people that I don't have

1705
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:28,719
the list in front of me that are

1706
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:29,360
involved. Beth Beth Retti, you know,

1707
01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:32,640
» Mary Beth,

1708
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:36,400
» Mary Beth Revetti, um, who helped to get

1709
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:38,640
a warming center here in this council,

1710
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:42,080
you know, in this city hall in the

1711
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,640
basement and who helped to start this

1712
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,199
along with Catholic Charities.

1713
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:51,360
It's It's taken

1714
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:54,000
not a village, an entire city to do

1715
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,000
this, but we're finally there. So, uh,

1716
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,239
thank you, Housing Group. Thank you,

1717
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,960
Catholic Charities. Thank you, Trevor.

1718
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:02,719
» Any other discussion?

1719
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,840
» Seeing none, all those in favor signify

1720
01:14:02,719 --> 01:14:04,800
by saying I.

1721
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,640
» I.

1722
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,600
» Any opposed?

1723
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:12,800
Motion passes. Next up under discussion,

1724
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:16,440
we have uh Ambulance rate increase. And

1725
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,440
with that, Chief Shanharst.

1726
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:23,440
» Good evening, council mayor. Thank you

1727
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:26,320
for having me. Uh discussion item

1728
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:27,760
tonight for your input. Uh obviously,

1729
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,159
it's on the ambulance billing rate

1730
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,840
increase. And uh a couple of slides to

1731
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,360
overview it and some of it's some

1732
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,520
educational stuff because it's just hard

1733
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,560
to understand the insurance industry and

1734
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,920
how it all gets build. Uh to but the end

1735
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,440
result will be to gather input from you

1736
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,360
and some direction so that we'll come

1737
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:45,840
back. I believe uh tenatively scheduled

1738
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,679
for the 22nd uh meeting for an action

1739
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,159
item.

1740
01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:53,280
So getting into it, our last ambulance

1741
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:55,920
rate increase was back in 2018

1742
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,159
and uh since then uh depending upon

1743
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,400
which internet source you go to but CPI

1744
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:04,400
has increased by over 30% since that

1745
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,920
time and unfortunately the cost of

1746
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,040
providing that ambulance service the

1747
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:11,840
expenses has increased at a faster rate

1748
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:14,239
than that 30%. Uh, and the example

1749
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,480
provided is back in 2019, uh, the fire

1750
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:18,560
department budgeted $65,000 for

1751
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:20,719
expenses, uh, just related to providing

1752
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:24,719
the service that's not personnel,

1753
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:26,719
equipment, or apparatus. Uh, this year

1754
01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:28,960
on our amended budget, we budget

1755
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:30,480
$100,000. So, there's a substantial

1756
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,239
increase in the cost of providing that

1757
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:34,800
service, while the rates have stayed the

1758
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:37,120
same since 2018. So, our proposal

1759
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,560
tonight as we walk through this is our

1760
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,120
ambulance rates. We want to increase

1761
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,880
them, but we can't we don't think it's

1762
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:46,400
prudent to jump to that full greater

1763
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:48,080
than 30% in one swoop. So, we're

1764
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,760
proposing a 10% increase over a

1765
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,840
three-year period to help catch us up

1766
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,480
and then uh CPI increases for the years

1767
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:57,520
to follow after that.

1768
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:59,440
This colorful slide, this is provided to

1769
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,280
us by our third party ambulance billing

1770
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:02,719
company, Systems Design West. And what

1771
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:07,280
this covers, if you're unable to read

1772
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:10,080
it, is August of 25 through July of 26.

1773
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:12,800
The red columns are the charges. So

1774
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:15,120
that's what we charge on every ambulance

1775
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:17,920
call. Those are going to be consistent

1776
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,520
and it's what our rates are set at. The

1777
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,239
green column is the good column. That's

1778
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,920
the payments and those are the the

1779
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:25,840
monies that we get in from the insurance

1780
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,719
providers, direct payments to the city,

1781
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:30,320
etc. The disallowed is the blue column

1782
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:32,960
and those are the funds that the

1783
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,880
insurance companies do not allow us to

1784
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,040
capture anymore on. Think of Medicare,

1785
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,560
Medicaid. they have ceilings that they

1786
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,000
will pay up to this amount. Doesn't

1787
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,520
matter what you charge, but you're only

1788
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,760
going to get this amount and that's it.

1789
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,520
You have no say further. And then small

1790
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,920
little gray cap on a lot of those blue

1791
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:50,159
columns is the uncollected. And that's

1792
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:53,679
due to timing. Sometimes it's coding

1793
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:56,159
errors. It's um underpayments that are

1794
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:59,199
made by either companies or individuals.

1795
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:01,120
And so, uh that's how we look on an

1796
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,880
annual basis. And it's a moving chart.

1797
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,320
The chart at the bottom is the average

1798
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,280
of all of those. There's a data set

1799
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,880
behind it. So, we have in there 111

1800
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,400
tickets average per month. And you'll

1801
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,400
see that 111 later on in the

1802
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,840
presentation, but the reason I put these

1803
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,800
numbers up there is the percentage

1804
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:20,080
columns. So, if you look at payments, we

1805
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:22,400
get about 52% payments back to the city

1806
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:26,080
for what we charge. We'll bill out, but

1807
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:29,280
we'll only get 52% back. 34% of our

1808
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:31,920
charges are disallowed. Uncollected is a

1809
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,760
pretty good percentage of at only 2%.

1810
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,280
And then the pending is 11. And those

1811
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,880
are the last three months on the right

1812
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,920
hand side of that chart because those

1813
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,560
take time to process mailings uh

1814
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,159
processing etc. So that's always moving

1815
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,640
and all those figures are rounded up to

1816
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:47,640
the nearest dollar.

1817
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:53,920
What we're proposing is on this simple

1818
01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:58,000
chart here is our current rate for basic

1819
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:59,679
life support transport is $900. A 10%

1820
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:03,360
increase would obviously increase that

1821
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:06,239
to 990 year $990 year one.

1822
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,400
AL ALS1, ALS2, and the mileage are

1823
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:10,719
seeing that same 10% increase, and that

1824
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:15,040
would be the 10% year after year through

1825
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:17,199
year three. ALS1 is the charge that

1826
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,600
we're able to do for advanced life

1827
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:22,000
support uh assessment as well as one

1828
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:24,800
intervention. And ALS2 is just another

1829
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:28,239
medical billing code for higher, more

1830
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,159
in-depth skills, medications given uh

1831
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:32,000
etc. So if we give at least three

1832
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:35,520
medications, then medical billing says

1833
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,360
you get qualify for ALS2 charges.

1834
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,320
The mileage there, we're currently at

1835
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:42,640
$17 per mile. And mileage is only what

1836
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,320
we call loaded miles. That's where a

1837
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,679
patient is actively being transported.

1838
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,600
It's not to get there. It's from

1839
01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:50,239
wherever we find and pick the patient up

1840
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,800
and to take them to a hospital, whether

1841
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:54,719
it be Pullman, Lewon, Spokane, wherever

1842
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,679
it might be, but it's actual miles with

1843
01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:59,679
the patient in the back. And so that

1844
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:01,360
there uh you'll see the little line uh

1845
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:03,520
underneath can't read it says regional

1846
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,600
mileage comparisons are based on rates

1847
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,640
that were on average last updated in

1848
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:10,560
2022. So four years ago we looked at a

1849
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,120
lot of the a majority of the ambulance

1850
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,679
providers in Eastern Washington and the

1851
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,600
average right now today is $17 per mile

1852
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:20,320
but that was four years ago when those

1853
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,000
that data set was compiled. So a lot of

1854
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,719
them have been adjusted or will be

1855
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,960
adjusted by the time we end up through

1856
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:29,040
the third year of this. And I should

1857
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:33,320
also note that mileage is based on the

1858
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,320
tenth of a mile is what we charge.

1859
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:40,239
So in the end at the end of year three

1860
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:42,480
we'll go from BLS rate of $900 to just

1861
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:47,360
under 1,200.

1862
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:49,120
ALS1 is from 1050 to,400 and ALS2 you

1863
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,440
can see that there. So it's the 10%

1864
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:55,239
annually for three years approximately

1865
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:55,239
33% cumulatively

1866
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:02,480
financial impacts. So we reached out to

1867
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:05,120
systems design west who has a lot of our

1868
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:07,040
data set on what we've been doing and

1869
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,560
they go back I should make sure to

1870
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,120
reference my notes here because I wrote

1871
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:14,719
them down for a reason. Um, there's a

1872
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:18,640
service mix and what that means is that

1873
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:20,400
ALS1, ALS2, BLS, how many calls do we

1874
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:23,199
have that hit each of those billing

1875
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:26,080
rates? And then they compare that to the

1876
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:29,199
payer mix. So, how many of our payers

1877
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:32,480
are Medicare, Medicaid, commercial

1878
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:34,320
insurance, or private pay? And then they

1879
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:37,360
compared that and said if you went back

1880
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:40,000
to your 2025 actuals and applied this

1881
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,960
10% increase for the next three years

1882
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:45,440
and as you can see year one would have

1883
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:49,760
estimated about a $31,000

1884
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:51,679
increase if everything was a-ok okay but

1885
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,679
unfortunately it's medical insurance and

1886
01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:54,880
so we can't there's no guarantees in

1887
01:20:53,679 --> 01:20:56,719
these figures but that's where it

1888
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,719
roughly would have landed on what it

1889
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:00,960
would mean for the city and it's not

1890
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:03,120
$31,000 to say hey we got all this money

1891
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,120
to spend. And keep in mind, we're trying

1892
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,360
to catch up from back in 2018 for the

1893
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,520
cost just to provide the service. And

1894
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,120
those funds have to come from somewhere.

1895
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:14,000
The ambulance service brings in about

1896
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:17,280
1.2 million plus or minus in there um in

1897
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:19,280
2025, which is great, but as those costs

1898
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,040
for services, we're pulling those funds

1899
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,480
from other areas of the general fund or

1900
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,640
the fire department budget just to

1901
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:27,199
provide that service. So, this is a

1902
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,320
necessary uh cost recovery for us. We

1903
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:29,679
don't want to leave that money sitting

1904
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,360
on the table that the insurance

1905
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:34,360
companies would be providing us

1906
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,280
when we when I come back later in the

1907
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:45,280
month. Uh in the addendum to the uh

1908
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,880
ambulance billing is a line in here and

1909
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,360
I didn't want to ignore it is

1910
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,080
extrication fees that is lined out in

1911
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,679
there that currently we charge $125 for

1912
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,840
extrication.

1913
01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:59,520
I don't know when that was established

1914
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:01,360
or where it was founded at. Uh but my

1915
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,639
best guess is think of Jaws of Life,

1916
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,719
right? Everybody kind of knows what that

1917
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:06,239
means. But today's world is more

1918
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:07,440
technical. We have more specialized

1919
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:09,199
equipment. We have more specialized

1920
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:11,679
vehicles on the road. It takes a lot

1921
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:14,320
more of these components to keep the

1922
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:17,120
patient safe, keep our crews safe, and

1923
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,120
to respond efficiently. And so in

1924
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,120
looking at that, there's a small data

1925
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:24,880
set that's out there. Some a some

1926
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:27,199
agencies are charging say a hourly rate

1927
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:29,280
for extrication. I'm not sure how well

1928
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:32,719
that works out. And some are charging

1929
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:35,040
over $4,000 per call for extrication.

1930
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:38,880
Since we were at 125 for a number of

1931
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,719
years, I'm proposing a modest $500. And

1932
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,480
that's uh when applicable, when

1933
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:45,760
recoverable, it gets build back to the

1934
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:47,199
automobile insurance. And uh they are

1935
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,880
the ones who would pay that. When I was

1936
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:51,120
in Wisconsin, the fire department would

1937
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,880
send uh both if there's a two vehicle

1938
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,440
accident, they would send both insurance

1939
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:57,360
companies the same bill and make them

1940
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:59,600
fight to figure out who's responsible or

1941
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,280
who is at fault if there was that caused

1942
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,440
determination. But that's what

1943
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,360
automobile insurance is there for. And

1944
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:07,199
so that would go to that to help recover

1945
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,440
some of those fees because our equipment

1946
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:12,080
that we've been um graced with through

1947
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:13,760
CIP, it's expensive and we're still on a

1948
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,920
three-year cycle plan to change out all

1949
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,840
of our stuff to battery operated

1950
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,120
hydraulic equipment and rams. Those

1951
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,800
weren't available back in the day and

1952
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,560
all the stress and stuff. So there's a

1953
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:25,120
lot of expense to uh automobile

1954
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,560
extrication, but I didn't want to ignore

1955
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:29,440
that part too because that it will be in

1956
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,040
the fee structure in the months to come.

1957
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:33,120
So, before I get to question answer

1958
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,880
period, the options, there's a handful

1959
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,560
of them. Uh, you could do as staff

1960
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,920
recommended. Um, and this is for

1961
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,320
consideration. We're not voting on this

1962
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,080
tonight, but the 10% annually for three

1963
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:44,000
years to help catch us up and then we'll

1964
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:47,040
catch up that fourth year and CPI after

1965
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,520
that. An option would be do 15% for the

1966
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,920
next two years and then uh CPI catch up

1967
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,320
after that. We could do an all lump sum

1968
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:56,400
starting in 2027.

1969
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,000
And then uh there's other options. We

1970
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,760
could ignore it. we could you could send

1971
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,120
me back to the drawing board. Uh, but

1972
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,520
the reason this is coming before you

1973
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:06,639
tonight is Washington state rules say

1974
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:09,040
that uh we have to have our rates to the

1975
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:10,239
uh uh the state. I was going to say the

1976
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,520
name, but I'd probably mess it up. So,

1977
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:14,480
I'll just say we have to have the rules

1978
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:17,360
to the state by November 1st so they can

1979
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:19,679
go into effect on January 1st. So, it's

1980
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,120
a little odd timing ahead of other

1981
01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:22,560
schedules, but that's just what the

1982
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:26,560
office of insurance commissioners have

1983
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:28,639
said. Uh, with that went through it

1984
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:31,199
pretty quickly, but I think I hit all my

1985
01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:33,280
points and I'd be happy to entertain any

1986
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:36,400
questions, feedback or suggestions.

1987
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:39,520
» So, question. So, council member Vance,

1988
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:41,600
» I had a question about the uh Medicaid

1989
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,840
uh ceilings. Is that a percentage or a

1990
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,840
dollar amount for those ceilings for

1991
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,080
Medicaid? I don't know if your slide had

1992
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,520
it, but I was just curious.

1993
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,800
» So, state the question differently

1994
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,760
because I bet I have the answer. I just

1995
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,159
need to understand what you're looking

1996
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,800
for

1997
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:55,600
» When when [clears throat] billing like

1998
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Medicaid.

1999
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,920
» Mhm.

2000
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,360
» You mentioned that there's a ceiling to

2001
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,400
what they'll pay. Is that a dollar

2002
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,880
amount or a percentage of the

2003
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,400
» The cost?

2004
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,560
» Medicaid

2005
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:10,800
specifically

2006
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:11,920
um has a strict dollar amount of $16843

2007
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,320
» That they'll pay.

2008
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,719
» Yes.

2009
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,560
» Okay.

2010
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:16,080
» And they're the one that um any

2011
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,920
remaining difference cannot be simply

2012
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,080
build back to the patient. So pretty

2013
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,560
much when once Medicaid is done with it,

2014
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:24,239
it closes it off and we're not able to

2015
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,840
uh go back after those funds.

2016
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:27,280
» Gotcha. Thank you.

2017
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,880
» All of those federally funded, the

2018
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,760
Medicare, Medicaid, they're they're the

2019
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:34,400
most restrictive. Uh and you the rate

2020
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,159
increase won't impact revenues coming

2021
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,159
back to the city because that's

2022
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:40,159
uncontrolled. We don't get to tell them

2023
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:41,520
to pay more. They they're set. Yeah. But

2024
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:42,639
it's the commercial insurance that would

2025
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,639
be paying more. Sorry to cut you off.

2026
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:46,560
» No, no. You're good. uh ballpark. What

2027
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:48,480
percentage of calls are build to

2028
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,719
Medicaid?

2029
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:51,679
» Medicaid represents 20% according to

2030
01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:53,120
systems design wise.

2031
01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:56,239
» Okay. Thank you,

2032
01:25:53,120 --> 01:26:00,560
» Council Member Wright.

2033
01:25:56,239 --> 01:26:02,719
» Thank you, Ryan. Nice presentation. Um

2034
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,800
I'm just going to call it a house call.

2035
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:07,199
What is the charge for a house call when

2036
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,280
a transport doesn't necessarily result

2037
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:10,960
like someone has fallen, they're not

2038
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,600
injured, but they can't get up on their

2039
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,840
own and they're by themselves? Does that

2040
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:18,639
fall under BLS?

2041
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:22,320
» Nope. Nope. So, if we don't transport,

2042
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:25,360
we're not um billing.

2043
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:27,840
It is a system of the rules and the

2044
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:30,560
permissions that we we operate under. Uh

2045
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:33,360
we will happily go anytime uh numerous

2046
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,679
times in some cases to do a lift assist

2047
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,080
into people's houses. Uh we will provide

2048
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:39,679
treatment. Uh we do not force people to

2049
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,800
go to the hospital. They are still in

2050
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:42,639
charge of their own healthcare

2051
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,239
decisions. And if they choose to stay at

2052
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:46,960
home, we have a simple form where they

2053
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:49,040
sign accepting the liability. Uh but uh

2054
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,880
generally speaking, they're not seeing a

2055
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:53,199
bill for those services.

2056
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,840
» Great. Thank you. And thank you for that

2057
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:56,480
service.

2058
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,719
» Yeah, Council Weller.

2059
01:26:56,480 --> 01:27:01,040
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [clears throat]

2060
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:03,040
First off, I dig the stash.

2061
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:07,615
» Feel like it just I feel like it just

2062
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:09,360
came up like yesterday. Just came up. Uh

2063
01:27:07,615 --> 01:27:12,320
[laughter] I do have a question

2064
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:16,639
regarding I know a little bit ago well

2065
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:20,480
probably eight years um we had some

2066
01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:22,480
challenges with um

2067
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:24,719
getting people to pay you know I mean

2068
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:27,199
there were a lot of bad debts that we

2069
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:30,639
were having to write off. Do you know

2070
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:33,679
how much um are we I know we were

2071
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:38,920
improving it. Do you know if we're doing

2072
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:38,920
better? Is it slipping back? Um,

2073
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:44,159
» I appreciate that question because I was

2074
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,760
looking for an opportunity all night to

2075
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:46,480
ask the man

2076
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,480
» Good minds

2077
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:50,960
» Come up and answer this because he was

2078
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:52,560
responsible for uh getting a majority of

2079
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,560
this under control in the last couple of

2080
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,880
years. Uh, we're doing very well.

2081
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,159
» Good.

2082
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,480
» We are doing very well. Andrew, do you

2083
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:01,600
have any comments in regards to that?

2084
01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:04,239
» I agree. We're doing very well.

2085
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:07,440
» Great minds think alike. Okay. Well,

2086
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:11,520
that's really my only question. I'm more

2087
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:14,960
for option three, but I know probably

2088
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:18,520
two would be a better choice. So,

2089
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,520
» Council Member FJarn,

2090
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,520
» Uh, thank you, Chief, for the

2091
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,440
presentation and data. uh and for the

2092
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:26,159
conversation I would be um more

2093
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:28,719
supporting the at the 10% but my

2094
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:31,920
question which council member will kind

2095
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:36,159
of touch base on it is uh does the fire

2096
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:38,560
department have a um hardship or write

2097
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:41,920
off policy for folks who can't play or

2098
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:43,920
pay or unable to pay? Uh, that's an

2099
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,159
excellent question and please allow me

2100
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,320
the courtesy of shuffling through my

2101
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:52,400
notes because I want to make sure I

2102
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:54,320
state this accurately. Um, the city has

2103
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,080
an approach that will actually start

2104
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:59,120
with systems design west who does all of

2105
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:03,199
our medical billing. Um, they have a

2106
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:06,239
ability to um assist with payment plans.

2107
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:08,560
uh if there is a large um payment plans

2108
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:10,880
or a large amount then uh the finance

2109
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,960
director Jeff can uh assist with

2110
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,360
speaking with those uh individuals

2111
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:18,320
directly. Um he has pre-authorization

2112
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,480
for that but um the stance for the city

2113
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:22,800
is that there is no charity, no

2114
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:25,679
settlement and no negotiating pricing

2115
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:28,400
options. Uh so systems design west has

2116
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:32,000
full control over the billing and the

2117
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:34,320
unpaid amounts um after the all of their

2118
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,960
efforts and they they have a pretty

2119
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:39,679
strong history of um giving great effort

2120
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,040
to working with people um it will

2121
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:44,080
ultimately end up in collections if

2122
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:46,400
that's where it needs to go.

2123
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:50,000
» Council member McDonald.

2124
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:53,280
» Okay. I have a few questions. Uh the

2125
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:55,840
first one is you mentioned the mileage

2126
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,840
was pretty in line with other places in

2127
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,679
terms of what we were charging and

2128
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:03,360
likely going to continue to be that way.

2129
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:05,120
You said uh extra I'm going to say that

2130
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:08,880
wrong. You get pulling people out of

2131
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:11,360
cars. Um is like we're like way below

2132
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:15,760
the normal rate. Do you know what the

2133
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:18,719
other um like just the normal the $900

2134
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,400
ambulance rate is by comparison for

2135
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:23,440
others in the region?

2136
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,040
» Yes. Yes, I can um assist with providing

2137
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:26,320
that. Let me find that chart for you. I

2138
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,280
didn't throw it up there because it was

2139
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,880
pretty messy um if I wanted to share it

2140
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:33,440
all. And you know how sometimes the

2141
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:36,159
presentations say you should only have

2142
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:39,040
four words per slide presentation

2143
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:42,560
etiquette, right? So our our rates right

2144
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:45,199
now are um

2145
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:47,440
below the average in the region and by

2146
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:49,520
the end of year three on the 10% um or

2147
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:51,840
even if we jump today um they would just

2148
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,440
be slightly above that average and those

2149
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,520
are bound to go that average is bound to

2150
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:59,520
rise over the next three years as we

2151
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:02,800
move through this. uh the we're situated

2152
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,480
underneath it currently on that chart um

2153
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,560
that I would be happy to share with you

2154
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,840
offline uh just because I'm I don't have

2155
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,920
it in the presentation.

2156
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,480
» Okay. But that that's a good enough

2157
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,400
answer,

2158
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:15,040
» But I didn't skew the I didn't skew the

2159
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:17,040
chart by including the Spokane AMR um

2160
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,080
rate which is uh it takes it through the

2161
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,080
roof. So um but our mileage the lowest

2162
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:25,520
in the region is $10 per mile and the

2163
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:27,199
highest is $38 per mile. So depends

2164
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,080
pretty wide range what they've adopted.

2165
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:33,920
» The the other one I wonder I two more I

2166
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:36,400
think um the typical insurance coverage

2167
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:40,080
for like our major insurers for the

2168
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:43,360
region what do they cover like

2169
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:46,400
seals or WSUs.

2170
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:48,000
» So medical insurance right we each have

2171
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,239
individual plans that we get to choose

2172
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,239
from what's offered to us on a on an

2173
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:54,239
annual basis. Uh, I'm not going to be

2174
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:55,520
able to directly answer that question.

2175
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:57,360
We would be able to get to that answer

2176
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,719
if we sat down with our billing

2177
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,440
specialists and walked through what

2178
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:03,600
those options are. Uh, but that depends

2179
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:06,480
on the plan that you're underneath, the

2180
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:09,840
the co-pays that you've agreed to, etc.

2181
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:11,600
It's all um shotgun approach almost. So,

2182
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:14,080
» Like the thing I'm kind of wondering is

2183
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:16,560
the like basically the equivalent of the

2184
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,320
Medicaid's like uh we probably think it

2185
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:21,360
I don't even know how they come up with.

2186
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:23,840
We think it's probably worth $150 for a

2187
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,679
like a ambulance ride, which seems

2188
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,239
crazy, but whatever. That's beside the

2189
01:32:25,679 --> 01:32:31,920
point. The um or whatever number you

2190
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:34,800
said. Um but like what what does another

2191
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,239
insurance think is normal? E co-pays and

2192
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,080
stuff aside.

2193
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:39,040
» So that's I think I understand your

2194
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,880
question better and I'll be able to

2195
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:43,120
answer it from the data systems design

2196
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,880
west because I would have no way to come

2197
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,199
up with this stuff. I don't see that uh

2198
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,719
what comes in what goes out. Uh they

2199
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:50,639
call that commercial insurance, the

2200
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:54,880
non-medicare and the non-federally

2201
01:32:50,639 --> 01:32:58,239
funded and non uh private pay. Uh so

2202
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:01,040
average commercial charge um is uh right

2203
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:05,360
around $1,100 and the average commercial

2204
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:07,440
reimbursement is $995. So very close

2205
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:10,960
compared to what the federal's uh

2206
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:13,840
insurance rates are. So they um they pay

2207
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:17,520
more. Yeah, it's crazy that we're all

2208
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:18,960
paying for the Medicaid ones, you know,

2209
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,840
but whatever. That's beside the point.

2210
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:24,080
Uh the other question that I had is

2211
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,560
obviously we would we want to recoup our

2212
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:29,760
cost and I'm sure where you haven't

2213
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:32,400
raised your rates since 2018. You guys

2214
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:35,040
have put in a ton of work for cost

2215
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,560
savings um over the years. Like

2216
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,040
obviously we don't want to just be like

2217
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:41,679
ah just who cares how much it costs us,

2218
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:43,440
we'll just pass it on. like what what

2219
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:45,280
are could you give a couple examples of

2220
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:47,760
ways that you guys are trying to help

2221
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:50,800
make sure that that cost isn't more than

2222
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,239
it needs to be.

2223
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,120
So the ambulance business is the

2224
01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:57,440
majority of our call volume and it takes

2225
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:59,360
a it was mentioned earlier it takes this

2226
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:01,120
village of dedicated professionals to

2227
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:04,159
make this happen and because they're

2228
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,320
dedicated to their craft it is because

2229
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:09,440
what makes that program so successful

2230
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:12,400
and so in regards to the cost savings

2231
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:15,600
that's one of the areas where

2232
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:19,120
I tell the gentleman who's in charge of

2233
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:22,320
procuring supplies just spend it because

2234
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:24,239
we have to have that if we're over in

2235
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:26,880
that budget, I'll have to find someplace

2236
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:29,520
else. But it's the most called upon

2237
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:31,840
service that we do, it has to be readily

2238
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:34,800
available 247. Those wheels have to roll

2239
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:37,600
and the care needs to be given. And so

2240
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:40,880
we are prudent. We do our research. We

2241
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:43,120
look for grants. We are doing GMT. We're

2242
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:46,239
procuring supplies from the best vendors

2243
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:48,320
available. Um all the prudent necessary

2244
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:50,560
measures that uh any responsible

2245
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,120
employee should be doing. Uh but when it

2246
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,920
comes down to it, um I'm not restricting

2247
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,520
the purchase of

2248
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,000
electrodes,

2249
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:02,320
IV solutions. I'm telling them to supply

2250
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,080
greater quantities so that we have them

2251
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,440
on hand should there be a hurricane on

2252
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:08,080
the east coast again and knock out the

2253
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:10,400
sailing plant. Um because we know that

2254
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:12,800
this community needs that regardless of

2255
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,880
where we're at. But um we're doing

2256
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,639
prudent measures uh all across the board

2257
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:19,679
when it comes to procuring those those

2258
01:35:16,639 --> 01:35:22,080
items uh from various vendors and and

2259
01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:23,920
moving those all the time in regards to

2260
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,760
what's the best option.

2261
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,000
» Thank you and thank thank you for what

2262
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:31,440
you do. Like I I'm on the emergency

2263
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:34,239
alert like if we get a 911 at seal like

2264
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:36,320
I get a slew of messages and like how

2265
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:39,360
fast you guys get on site. It's crazy.

2266
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:42,400
It's like really impressive. Thank you,

2267
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:45,360
» Council Member Parks.

2268
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:48,480
I don't know if you know the the the

2269
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:51,679
volume or the percentage of of

2270
01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:55,120
automobile involved calls that you that

2271
01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:56,880
that our that your department has like

2272
01:35:55,120 --> 01:36:00,080
» So I did not come with that data

2273
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:02,560
tonight. Uh is I would hope fairly easy

2274
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,159
to acquire but thankfully we don't have

2275
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,719
a lot of those anymore.

2276
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:07,360
» Oh that's good.

2277
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:09,920
» Not like back in the emergency days. Um,

2278
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:13,120
but we I would say if I was going to be

2279
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:15,679
conservative, we we do about 24 a year.

2280
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,199
» Where um it could be any and I'm not

2281
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:19,199
really counting like the vehicle versus

2282
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:21,199
pedestrians in a crosswalk. It's the

2283
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:23,520
cars that have overturned on icy roads

2284
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:25,440
or the head-ons out on the highway or

2285
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:28,480
whatever may be around town. There there

2286
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:30,159
are a handful of them that require um

2287
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,800
specialized tools and equipment and

2288
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:34,800
training.

2289
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:37,840
» Sure. And you you alluded to Wisconsin,

2290
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:41,920
which is it sounds like an a no fault

2291
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:44,000
state as Idaho is. Uh but the uh but

2292
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:46,800
Washington is an at fault state. So

2293
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,639
insurance companies will assign blame.

2294
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,800
And I just want to put a little plug in

2295
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:53,119
for people to look at their car policies

2296
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,560
because there's a coverage an optional

2297
01:36:53,119 --> 01:36:57,280
coverage called personal injury

2298
01:36:54,560 --> 01:37:00,080
protection or PIP. That is the that is

2299
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:02,880
the line item that chief was speaking

2300
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,760
about when he said that the um the

2301
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:09,360
medical portion will be paid out of an

2302
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:12,320
automobile. And many people either

2303
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:15,199
refuse it or they choose the lowest

2304
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,679
which I believe is $10,000.

2305
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:19,679
But it's a really really good um

2306
01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:22,159
coverage to have and it will cover

2307
01:37:19,679 --> 01:37:24,400
things that come from the ambulance

2308
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:26,239
billing and things like that up to the

2309
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,360
limit that you have chosen. So I just

2310
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:29,520
wanted to put that out there.

2311
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:32,480
» Thank you. So as a part of this

2312
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,400
discussion he's kind of asking kind of

2313
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:39,360
some direction from council and we've

2314
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:41,360
had uh you know one at 10 one at 33. Uh,

2315
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,960
so it'd be helpful just to kind of help

2316
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,840
him provide guidance because he wants to

2317
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:48,400
bring something back that and and not

2318
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:50,159
have to rebring it back because it it's

2319
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,800
not the right numbers. Council member

2320
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:52,239
Schumis,

2321
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,000
» Sorry, I was trying to wait for uh

2322
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:56,960
questions to be done before I made a

2323
01:37:54,000 --> 01:38:00,560
comment. Um, I would be in favor of the

2324
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:02,480
10% over 3 years because uh getting in a

2325
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,400
car accident is the second worst day of

2326
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:06,480
your life and getting the bill is the

2327
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,800
worst day of your life and it's really

2328
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:10,560
expensive. Um, and everything is getting

2329
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:13,360
more expensive right now. And I just

2330
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,960
would hate to bury people in like a I

2331
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,480
know it goes to the insurance company,

2332
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:18,159
but you know, eventually these things do

2333
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:19,360
trickle down and I would hate to do that

2334
01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:21,440
huge jump

2335
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:23,119
» Right off the bat. Thank you.

2336
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:23,920
» Okay,

2337
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:26,159
Council McDonald.

2338
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,679
» So, I was tempted to go with the number

2339
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:30,000
three. It's not like it's like you're

2340
01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:32,239
saving for a trip to Hawaii and it's

2341
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,080
like I'm saving up for that ambulance

2342
01:38:32,239 --> 01:38:36,320
visit. It's like when it happens, it

2343
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:39,199
happens. like um and hopefully it

2344
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:41,119
doesn't happen, right? Um but I feel

2345
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:42,400
like when when you shared the numbers

2346
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:45,360
and they were more in line

2347
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:47,119
insurance-wise with the 10% and they'll

2348
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,600
probably adjust over time, like I would

2349
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:53,840
vote for number one just because it

2350
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:56,080
seems like in line with that.

2351
01:38:53,840 --> 01:39:00,159
» Other thoughts? I see council member

2352
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:03,119
Parks with that 10% also.

2353
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:04,159
I'm in favor of the 15 personally, but I

2354
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:08,400
could.

2355
01:39:04,159 --> 01:39:10,560
» So, so we have mostly 10, uh, 111, I

2356
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,800
mean 115, 133.

2357
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,280
» So,

2358
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:17,280
Council Mayor Waller,

2359
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,960
» Well, I can just explain. The three was

2360
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:21,280
rip the band-aid off and things are

2361
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:24,239
going to get more expensive, period. And

2362
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:27,840
we're already behind. Eight years, we

2363
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:32,159
haven't had anything. Um uh but I said

2364
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:34,000
two because okay uh middle of the road.

2365
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:36,400
Um I just know that things are going to

2366
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,719
continue being more expensive and if we

2367
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:43,600
wait for three year three more years

2368
01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:48,400
that's 11 years since we've done a full

2369
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:51,040
increase. So you know

2370
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,800
yeah that's that's the reasoning I will

2371
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,639
vote. I'm not gonna fight about it. You

2372
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:58,559
know, it's not a something to die on the

2373
01:39:54,639 --> 01:39:58,639
hill for, but that was my reasoning.

2374
01:39:58,559 --> 01:40:00,320
[clears throat]

2375
01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:03,320
» Council member Fer.

2376
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,320
» Okay.

2377
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:09,199
Some people have very big hand waves and

2378
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:12,400
somes with very small finger movements

2379
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:14,800
at times. Um, Chief, do you feel you

2380
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,800
have enough information?

2381
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:20,159
I do. I appreciate that. I understand

2382
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:22,480
that uh if we jumped immediately to 33,

2383
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:23,679
it wouldn't impact all of us overnight

2384
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:26,239
because we're not calling the ambulance,

2385
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:27,760
but uh we wouldn't also be aware that

2386
01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:29,199
everything is getting more expensive and

2387
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,679
maybe the more the gradual approach

2388
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:33,119
would be more palatable. So um just was

2389
01:40:31,679 --> 01:40:35,600
looking for the feedback I believe I've

2390
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:37,679
received to uh compile the documents for

2391
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,480
action at the uh future council meeting.

2392
01:40:37,679 --> 01:40:42,960
» Okay, great. And I and I know council

2393
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:44,719
members might hear some comments and

2394
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:47,119
might have some thoughts that they pass

2395
01:40:44,719 --> 01:40:48,560
on in the next week too. So I

2396
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,000
understand.

2397
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,880
» Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate

2398
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,040
» You very much.

2399
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:55,199
» Thank you.

2400
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:58,159
» Uh the next discussion item we had

2401
01:40:55,199 --> 01:41:02,560
related to legislative priorities. Uh I

2402
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:04,880
put a hard copy at your desk of uh the

2403
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,960
latest draft that we've been working on

2404
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:11,040
and I apologize that we didn't get it

2405
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:14,080
into the packet. Um it's there's been a

2406
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:17,679
lot going on this week and this one it

2407
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:20,080
didn't get finished until yesterday. Um

2408
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:23,760
but within it what we did is we put put

2409
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:27,679
together that a common we're trying to

2410
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:30,400
keep it to one page uh with really a a

2411
01:41:27,679 --> 01:41:34,960
common theme and then the four areas

2412
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:37,600
that were talked about where we talk um

2413
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:40,800
in a positive sense of how the state has

2414
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,800
support us in the past or or if there's

2415
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:45,440
been challenges in the past. So kind of

2416
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:48,080
to frame why we're asking what we're

2417
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:52,400
asking and then in bold are are the

2418
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:55,199
different asks related to uh financial

2419
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:57,600
sustainability, the infrastructure. Uh

2420
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:00,239
and we did a mix of projects is what

2421
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:02,000
staff's recommendation related to flood

2422
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:04,960
control, the sewer treatment and then

2423
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:08,320
also streets just because there's they

2424
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:11,360
they touch different aspects of people.

2425
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:13,360
uh the policing one uh related the the

2426
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:15,840
public record stuff that we see going on

2427
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:18,000
that's really an exploitation uh and

2428
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:21,840
then those economic development border

2429
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:25,199
issues that were addressed uh and we

2430
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:28,239
really worked to keep it to to a page.

2431
01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:30,880
Obviously this is a draft for and you're

2432
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:33,600
seeing it tonight. Um, but I'm

2433
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:36,880
interested just in your thoughts. Are

2434
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:40,960
have we captured what as a council you

2435
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:43,920
are thinking relates to this? Um,

2436
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:48,239
yes. No thoughts.

2437
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:50,880
Coun. Okay. Uh, council member McDonald.

2438
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:52,880
» Uh, one thing I would add to the I I

2439
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,199
like it. I like it a lot. Um, one thing

2440
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:58,560
I would add to the border community with

2441
01:42:55,199 --> 01:43:00,800
the building codes and the housing is I

2442
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:04,400
think uh

2443
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:07,600
maybe something about minimizing

2444
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:11,119
the impact of those regulations, right?

2445
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:13,600
It's like I mean the state is driving up

2446
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:16,719
the cost of doing construction here.

2447
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,520
Like like they could stop doing that.

2448
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:19,440
Like

2449
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,239
» We would we would appreciate that as one

2450
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:22,266
of the things.

2451
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:24,159
» Well, and and And and and

2452
01:43:22,266 --> 01:43:26,239
[clears throat] and I will say, you

2453
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:28,880
know, I framed it in the state's past

2454
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:31,280
practices have hindered, I I actually

2455
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:34,000
had a much more stronger statement in

2456
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:38,400
there that I kind of pulled back from.

2457
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:40,400
Uh but if if it's if the stronger

2458
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,400
statement is what is a council you want,

2459
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:45,280
we can we could put a stronger statement

2460
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,960
in there related to they're part they're

2461
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,800
part of our problem right now.

2462
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:52,560
» Yeah. I feel like the more that they can

2463
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:56,080
hear the like the more they see help

2464
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:59,520
with the middle housing, including the

2465
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:01,840
decisions they make impact

2466
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:03,920
our ability to hit middle housing. I

2467
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,520
think just being sensitive cuz like you

2468
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,360
talk to anybody in Washington, they're

2469
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:09,119
going to be like, "Yeah, we want we want

2470
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:12,480
more people to have houses. We want

2471
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:14,719
houses to be affordable and we it's just

2472
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:15,679
okay. Well, then just be mindful when

2473
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:17,360
you make those decisions.

2474
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:19,199
» When you make

2475
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:22,000
Council member Weller.

2476
01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:24,400
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just a thing right

2477
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,920
here. Policing exploitation of our

2478
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,520
vulnerable. Was there something else

2479
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,840
that was supposed to be there?

2480
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,840
» No, that

2481
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:36,880
» It's of our vulnerable, but we could say

2482
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:39,440
vulnerable population. So, this has to

2483
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:42,320
do with uh what what we're finding is

2484
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:47,760
people are doing public records requests

2485
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:50,880
uh related to um women that are drunk in

2486
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:54,080
order to put it out there and on paid

2487
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:56,560
sites. Um, and they're also doing uh

2488
01:44:54,080 --> 01:45:00,880
public records requests for interviews

2489
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:04,159
of minors that have that uh had sexual

2490
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:06,000
issues and and so we're so I tried to

2491
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:08,480
use the term vulnerable.

2492
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:10,880
» Can we just put in our most vulnerable

2493
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:14,719
most just in there?

2494
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:16,239
» Um, and you know I I think it's

2495
01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:17,679
important

2496
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:21,119
well two things. one with the

2497
01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:23,760
infrastructure it it it helps investment

2498
01:45:21,119 --> 01:45:26,960
in the future. So it will help with you

2499
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:29,119
know economy and so on. So I think

2500
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:31,760
saying something about you know

2501
01:45:29,119 --> 01:45:34,320
investment in the future our community

2502
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:37,679
you know economy something along those

2503
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:39,840
lines that often gets uh lost. I think

2504
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:42,960
also what you were saying is I I think

2505
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:46,159
we do need to start being a little bit

2506
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:49,199
and I I appreciate what Brian was saying

2507
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:52,960
um a little bit stronger

2508
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:55,280
worded with the state. What they're

2509
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:58,639
doing especially for Eastern Washington,

2510
01:45:55,280 --> 01:46:02,320
the smaller communities is just plain

2511
01:45:58,639 --> 01:46:06,719
hurting us. And you know there's no way

2512
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:09,199
around it. and um they need to

2513
01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:12,800
understand and I believe our

2514
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:15,119
representatives do, but others need to

2515
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:17,760
understand that this is this is not

2516
01:46:15,119 --> 01:46:19,520
going to create a thriving economy and

2517
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:21,440
it's just going to continue to upset

2518
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:23,280
people. We need to have stronger

2519
01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:25,520
language about it.

2520
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,199
» Okay, we'll add that in. Council member

2521
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,840
Schumis.

2522
01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:31,679
Yeah, actually I 100% agree with them.

2523
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,320
And I also just wanted to say that I

2524
01:46:31,679 --> 01:46:36,080
whoever did this, I was really impressed

2525
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,600
after last time coming in and seeing it

2526
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,840
all on one page like this. This looks

2527
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,600
really awesome. Very visually, I think

2528
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:44,400
pleasing and easy to read. So,

2529
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,679
» It it took it took a village and a bit

2530
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,000
of work.

2531
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:51,360
» Well, it's great. Thank you,

2532
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:54,080
» Council Member. Right. So, and I talked

2533
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:56,080
about this um a couple of times ago when

2534
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:58,560
we were just starting to put this

2535
01:46:56,080 --> 01:47:01,760
together regarding the border community

2536
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:06,800
economic development. And I would like

2537
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:09,440
to see what the level of cooperation is

2538
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:13,679
between andor among the legislative

2539
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:16,480
districts that have border communities.

2540
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:19,520
so that we know that their our

2541
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:22,560
legislators are utilizing all of the

2542
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:26,400
possible leverage points that they can

2543
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:29,600
and working with their partners on on

2544
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:32,000
the border because you go at least from

2545
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:34,320
the Canadian border down to maybe

2546
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,560
Garfield or Colombia County, everybody

2547
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:40,000
has the same issues and I'm sure Walaw

2548
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:42,880
Wala does as well. And so for them to be

2549
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:45,360
able to work with all of those other

2550
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:48,800
legislators, I mean, it would almost be

2551
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:51,199
like a, you know, a pack or a um, you

2552
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:54,560
know, a legislative group that maybe has

2553
01:47:51,199 --> 01:47:56,320
a little more power than just one

2554
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,560
district. Does that make sense?

2555
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:02,400
» Yes. And and so that would be something

2556
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:04,320
we have the uh the influences work group

2557
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,639
that and this is I think would be a

2558
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:09,119
charge that would go to them to okay how

2559
01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:11,760
can we start how can we work on

2560
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:14,719
influences in order to accomplish our

2561
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:18,080
pri our goals our priorities and our

2562
01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:20,159
legislative priorities.

2563
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:23,440
Council Member Weller,

2564
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:25,360
» I do have one more question and it's um

2565
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:28,239
not trying to be critical, but I don't

2566
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:30,560
see a whole lot on quality. I mean

2567
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:34,719
quality of life can be in any of these

2568
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:40,719
but I know um Schmick is going to ask

2569
01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:44,639
about mental health and I know that um

2570
01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:48,460
you know veterans especially um is going

2571
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:49,280
to come up with a couple of them and so

2572
01:48:48,460 --> 01:48:51,920
[snorts]

2573
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,520
I'm I'm wondering I I see a lot of these

2574
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,440
things but there's you know the

2575
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,800
infrastructure and police and that but

2576
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:59,360
there's nothing on mental health

2577
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:03,199
addiction veterans. These things are

2578
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:06,000
kind of, you know, the the heart of what

2579
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:07,360
a community is as well. And I don't see

2580
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:10,480
a whole lot in there. I don't see

2581
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:12,480
anything in there actually. And and from

2582
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:15,199
the discussions that the council had,

2583
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:16,880
we're focusing to these, but we still

2584
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:18,719
have those areas like what you

2585
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:21,119
described. Those will still be

2586
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:24,960
conversations that happen, but these are

2587
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:27,679
the the we're trying to narrow down to

2588
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:29,600
what are the key critical ones here.

2589
01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:32,320
We'll still have those discussions of

2590
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:34,239
supporting these agencies, these um

2591
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:36,719
entities that are doing the doing the

2592
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:39,280
work, but this these are really city

2593
01:49:36,719 --> 01:49:41,040
more city related in that way. So that

2594
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:44,320
was as a council when we were having

2595
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:46,080
this discussion that's why these were

2596
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,000
the items that were that were selected

2597
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:50,800
by the council and the and but we still

2598
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,800
have we still have the rest of it that

2599
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:54,480
are going to be talking points that

2600
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,360
we'll still individually be talking

2601
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:59,520
about.

2602
01:49:55,360 --> 01:50:02,159
» Okay. Um I will say that um in my mind

2603
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,679
if it's not on this one page it

2604
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:06,480
significantly

2605
01:50:03,679 --> 01:50:08,880
lowers the importance of those things in

2606
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:14,239
the community. It does. It looks that

2607
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:16,880
way. So, um, you know, I'm

2608
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:19,199
and and for me, you know, I'm a bit of a

2609
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:22,560
bleeding heart and the veterans mental

2610
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:25,280
health, addiction, all of those are

2611
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:29,199
going to be very important to me. And

2612
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:33,119
so, I mean, it it just it doesn't look

2613
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:35,360
good. So, so Council Member Schumis,

2614
01:50:33,119 --> 01:50:39,600
» I just was going to say that I remember

2615
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:41,440
this conversation and um I had

2616
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:44,400
uh made the statement that I believed

2617
01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:46,080
that helping people find jobs and that

2618
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:49,360
sort of stuff, making sure that we had a

2619
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:52,400
strong economy was driving mental

2620
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:54,080
health. So, I very much see that in the

2621
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:56,400
border community economic development.

2622
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:59,679
It may not be there, but the ability to

2623
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:01,760
help people find a job and get housing

2624
01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:04,800
is kind of in that like strengthening

2625
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:08,239
our economy.

2626
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:12,239
» I wholeheartedly disagree. Um, you know,

2627
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:15,679
finding a job is a, you know, part of

2628
01:51:12,239 --> 01:51:21,520
all of that. But some people it's, you

2629
01:51:15,679 --> 01:51:25,760
know, either they can't get a job or um

2630
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:27,679
it's too difficult. It's not.

2631
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,679
And no, nobody really thinks about

2632
01:51:27,679 --> 01:51:32,159
mental health and oh, getting a job

2633
01:51:29,679 --> 01:51:36,239
that'll fix mental health. That's just

2634
01:51:32,159 --> 01:51:39,520
it. I I'm just letting you know

2635
01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:41,920
personally not okay with this. I'm okay

2636
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:44,960
with the stuff that's been said on there

2637
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:48,719
with this but not having something

2638
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:52,480
regarding those topics which quite

2639
01:51:48,719 --> 01:51:55,360
frankly Mary Dy has been very

2640
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:58,239
instrumental in veterans

2641
01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:02,239
and Schmick has been very instrumental

2642
01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:05,119
in mental health. Those are going to

2643
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:07,920
kind of for them in my opinion is going

2644
01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:09,760
to be like well so you're not focusing

2645
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:13,760
on those

2646
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:17,840
even if it's in a additional one page.

2647
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:20,080
» Could we shrink the font and add

2648
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,719
just an overall healthare

2649
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:25,440
» We we we could reference healthcare at

2650
01:52:22,719 --> 01:52:27,599
the top as a part of it as opposed

2651
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:29,280
because these are specific asks that

2652
01:52:27,599 --> 01:52:31,280
we're asking for. So, if we do the

2653
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:34,480
mental health, it would need to be a

2654
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,080
specific ask that that we're trying

2655
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:40,159
because this is we're trying to get down

2656
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:42,239
to not just an issue, but specific asks

2657
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:43,440
within the issue. Council member

2658
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:46,000
McDonald,

2659
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:47,679
» Just an idea, but I mean, I I kind of

2660
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:50,320
hear both sides of this. I feel like

2661
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:52,560
Washington as a whole like is more

2662
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:55,040
sensitive to some of those particular

2663
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:56,880
things uh than some of the others that

2664
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,560
we're calling out. And so it's like a

2665
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,159
okay there's probably already some

2666
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,840
priority there. I almost wonder could

2667
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:04,400
you put something at the very bottom

2668
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:06,480
that almost calls out a couple of those

2669
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:08,320
things that you that Nathan already

2670
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:11,280
mentioned and say that we continue to

2671
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:13,920
care about and and that's still a

2672
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:15,520
priority for mental health, right? And

2673
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:17,440
then that gives them a shout out and

2674
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:21,040
it's like it it's not like we don't care

2675
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:23,760
about it anymore. I just I I agree with

2676
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:26,719
what Brian's saying, a continuing to

2677
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:29,199
support, mental health, veterans, you

2678
01:53:26,719 --> 01:53:31,520
know, addiction support, so on and so

2679
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:34,239
forth, because it does give them, you

2680
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,320
know, it's it's part image

2681
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:39,679
» Being able to show them that yes, in

2682
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:41,520
fact, this matters and also it's part,

2683
01:53:39,679 --> 01:53:43,440
you know, yes, I know we want to work on

2684
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:47,920
other projects.

2685
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:49,840
um but making something you know some

2686
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:52,320
mention so I appre

2687
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,880
» I I can work on that but council member

2688
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,080
parks

2689
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:58,320
» Two things point of clarification um if

2690
01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:01,040
if council member zumalis doesn't mind I

2691
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:04,880
think when she mentioned jobs she

2692
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:06,880
mentioned it in the context of not not

2693
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,400
people who may not be able to get jobs

2694
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,280
to get jobs but when you have more

2695
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:14,719
economic development you have more jobs

2696
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:17,599
which enriches our community and and

2697
01:54:14,719 --> 01:54:20,800
empowers our the nonprofit organizations

2698
01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:23,119
who help in with mental health and and

2699
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:26,719
veterans. So, I I I don't believe she

2700
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:29,599
was, if I'm correct, saying that let's

2701
01:54:26,719 --> 01:54:31,920
have the the vulnerable, you know, get

2702
01:54:29,599 --> 01:54:33,520
out and get jobs. So, I just want to say

2703
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:36,400
that. And then I did like council member

2704
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:39,360
Wright and um Brian's you know just

2705
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:41,119
maybe I would put at the top sort of

2706
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,960
after that paragraph like council member

2707
01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:44,800
Wright said and just put a little we

2708
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:47,040
could put a heading and then just like a

2709
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,800
like a mission statement because with

2710
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:52,080
mental health and veterans and those

2711
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:55,119
sorts of things domestic violence um

2712
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:58,080
there is no one thing right now that

2713
01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:59,440
needs to be done. It just but we do want

2714
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,480
to keep it top of mind.

2715
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,000
» Keep it top of mind.

2716
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,800
» Does that make sense? Okay.

2717
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,159
» Okay.

2718
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,119
» Appreciate that.

2719
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:07,440
» Appreciate what you said,

2720
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:10,800
» Council Member Wright. maybe even to say

2721
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:13,280
it in the context of um our continuing

2722
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:17,920
partnership with Pullman Regional

2723
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:20,560
Hospital and their work in these areas

2724
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:24,320
because I know they are very focused on

2725
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:27,199
um behavioral health and you know I mean

2726
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:29,360
just just in the addition to the the

2727
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:30,800
hospital and the emergency room they've

2728
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:34,320
got a dedic they're putting in a

2729
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:36,800
dedicated observation room that would

2730
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:39,520
support those mental health emergencies

2731
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:42,560
and so I think something without saying

2732
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:45,280
all the words but putting it in line

2733
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:46,400
with what the hospital is doing that we

2734
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,480
fully support that

2735
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:50,800
» We'll want to keep it broad and and I I'

2736
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:52,880
I'd be careful as calling one entity out

2737
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,880
and forgetting some other so we have to

2738
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,719
we think in broad sense how do we how do

2739
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,560
we say it in a broad sense where

2740
01:55:56,719 --> 01:56:00,719
everybody's going to feel included in it

2741
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:03,679
as opposed to well why'd you call that

2742
01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:05,440
entity but not this other entity

2743
01:56:03,679 --> 01:56:07,360
council Vance

2744
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:09,440
Thank you. I was just going to throw my

2745
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,599
support behind the expansion at the

2746
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:14,480
bottom that Council Member McDonald and

2747
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:18,159
and Weller were mentioning.

2748
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:19,520
» Okay. Any other input on this, Council

2749
01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:22,239
Member Weller?

2750
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:24,159
» Yeah, I just wanted to mention Yeah, I I

2751
01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:27,280
agree with what you were saying that not

2752
01:56:24,159 --> 01:56:30,080
to mention just one entity. I do think

2753
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:31,920
it is important to make sure to say

2754
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:34,080
those things,

2755
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,320
you know, those the mental health, the

2756
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:38,320
veterans, the addiction, those things.

2757
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:41,599
It's very important to be able to call

2758
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:46,080
them out. It's a part of destigmatizing

2759
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:47,760
these topics and not hiding them behind.

2760
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:50,639
Well, we're working on health through

2761
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:54,440
other it's it's the destigmatizing

2762
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:54,440
that's very important.

2763
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:02,719
Okay,

2764
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:04,000
looks we got that. Um, with that, we

2765
01:57:02,719 --> 01:57:06,960
don't have any new business to come

2766
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,560
before us. Uh, so at this time, we're

2767
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,840
the city council is going to adjourn to

2768
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:14,080
executive session,

2769
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:16,239
» Of course. uh pursuant to RCW4231101

2770
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:18,159
I to discuss with legal council

2771
01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:20,560
representing the city matters related to

2772
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:22,080
agency enforcement actions or discuss

2773
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,960
with legal counsel representing the

2774
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:27,840
agency potential litigation concerning

2775
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:30,159
litigation or legal risks of a potential

2776
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:32,800
action or current practice the agency

2777
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:34,560
has identified when public discussion of

2778
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:36,239
the litigation or legal risk is likely

2779
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,800
to result in an adverse legal or

2780
01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:41,599
financial consequence to the agency. The

2781
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:43,520
executive session uh is expected to last

2782
01:57:41,599 --> 01:57:45,040
20 minutes. If it becomes necessary to

2783
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,280
extend the executive session, someone

2784
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:49,760
will return to announce the anticipate

2785
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:51,760
additional time needed by council. The

2786
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:55,280
council

2787
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:57,440
does not does not anticipate taking

2788
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:59,920
action following the executive session.

2789
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:02,800
Uh it's 7:24.

2790
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:05,800
Uh it's actually 7:25. So we'll start at

2791
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,800
7:27.

2792
01:58:34,692 --> 01:58:36,712
» [music]

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[music]

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» Hey,

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02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:19,480
hey, hey.

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02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:44,840
Hey.

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02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:44,840
Hey. Hey.

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[music]

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» [music]

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[snorts]

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[music]

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[music]

2817
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:53,320
» Hey.

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02:02:59,315 --> 02:03:01,335
[music]

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» [music]

2820
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:15,960
» Hey,

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02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:19,020
[music]

2822
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:27,080
hey, hey.

2823
02:03:28,135 --> 02:03:30,155
» [music]

2824
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[music]

2825
02:03:44,510 --> 02:03:46,530
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2826
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2827
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2828
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[music]

2829
02:04:29,706 --> 02:04:31,726
[music]

2830
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:16,520
» Heat.

2831
02:05:31,199 --> 02:05:34,199
Heat.

2832
02:05:41,757 --> 02:05:43,777
» [snorts]

2833
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:54,119
» Hey,

2834
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,440
hey, hey.

2835
02:06:13,197 --> 02:06:16,679
» [music]

2836
02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:16,679
» Hey,

2837
02:06:20,402 --> 02:06:22,422
[music]

2838
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,800
hey, hey.

2839
02:06:28,262 --> 02:06:30,282
[music]

2840
02:06:38,087 --> 02:06:40,107
» [music]

2841
02:06:49,877 --> 02:06:51,897
[music]

2842
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[music]

2843
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2844
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[music]

2845
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[music]

2846
02:07:44,898 --> 02:07:46,918
[music]

2847
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[music]

2848
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2849
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[music]

2850
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[music]

2851
02:08:20,268 --> 02:08:22,288
[music]

2852
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:51,719
» Hey.

2853
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:02,840
Hey. Hey.

2854
02:10:17,514 --> 02:10:19,534
» [snorts]

2855
02:10:36,510 --> 02:10:38,530
[music]

2856
02:11:30,875 --> 02:11:32,895
[music]

2857
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,360
» Hey,

2858
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,560
hey, hey.

2859
02:11:57,076 --> 02:11:59,096
» [music]

2860
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[music]

2861
02:12:23,931 --> 02:12:25,951
[music]

2862
02:12:31,136 --> 02:12:33,156
[music]

2863
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:46,000
» Hey, hey, hey.

2864
02:12:50,786 --> 02:12:52,806
» [snorts]

2865
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:08,599
» Hey.

2866
02:13:05,599 --> 02:13:08,599
Hey. Hey.

2867
02:13:09,679 --> 02:13:12,679
Heat.

2868
02:13:13,056 --> 02:13:15,076
[snorts]

2869
02:13:18,952 --> 02:13:20,972
[snorts]

2870
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,800
Heat.

2871
02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:37,079
Hey. Hey. Hey.

2872
02:14:21,177 --> 02:14:23,198
» [snorts]

2873
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:51,363
» Hey.

2874
02:14:49,343 --> 02:14:51,363
[music]

2875
02:15:51,569 --> 02:15:53,589
» [snorts]

2876
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:03,159
» Hey.

2877
02:16:19,734 --> 02:16:21,754
» [music]

2878
02:16:29,559 --> 02:16:31,579
[music]

2879
02:17:57,599 --> 02:18:00,599
» Heat. Heat.

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02:18:45,801 --> 02:18:47,820
» [music]

2881
02:18:56,281 --> 02:18:58,301
[music]

2882
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[music]

2883
02:19:46,319 --> 02:19:49,120
» Hello.

2884
02:19:48,026 --> 02:19:52,120
[music]

2885
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:52,120
Hey. Hey.

2886
02:19:59,161 --> 02:20:01,181
» [music]

2887
02:20:04,401 --> 02:20:06,421
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2888
02:20:17,502 --> 02:20:19,521
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2889
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[music]

2890
02:20:37,152 --> 02:20:39,172
[music]

2891
02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:02,399
» Hey, It's 7:48. We're extending the

2892
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:07,720
executive session by 10 minutes. Sorry,

2893
02:21:02,399 --> 02:21:07,720
it's 7:47. Extending by 10 minutes.

2894
02:21:11,212 --> 02:21:13,231
[music]

2895
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:16,200
Hey. Hey. Hey.

2896
02:22:25,229 --> 02:22:27,248
[music]

2897
02:22:31,123 --> 02:22:33,143
[music]

2898
02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:42,359
Heat.

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02:22:58,479 --> 02:23:01,479
Hey, Heat.

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02:23:16,318 --> 02:23:18,338
» [music]

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02:23:30,074 --> 02:23:32,094
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2902
02:23:58,239 --> 02:24:00,259
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2903
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2904
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[music]

2905
02:24:43,435 --> 02:24:45,454
[music]

2906
02:25:08,319 --> 02:25:11,319
» Hey,

2907
02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:22,439
hey,

2908
02:25:19,439 --> 02:25:22,439
hey.

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02:25:54,176 --> 02:25:56,195
» [snorts]

2910
02:25:56,479 --> 02:25:59,479
» Baby.

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02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:16,840
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02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:28,120
Hey. Hey. Hey.

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02:26:59,021 --> 02:27:01,041
» [music]

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02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:15,560
» Hey,

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02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:15,560
hey, hey.

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02:27:21,946 --> 02:27:23,966
» [music]

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[music]

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02:27:33,082 --> 02:27:35,102
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» Hey.

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2924
02:28:44,478 --> 02:28:46,497
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2925
02:28:56,268 --> 02:28:58,287
[music]

2926
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[music]

2927
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:34,312
» Hey,

2928
02:29:32,293 --> 02:29:34,312
[music]

2929
02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:41,160
hey, hey.

2930
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:06,760
Hey burn.

2931
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:04,760
It's 7:57. We're extending the executive

2932
02:31:00,880 --> 02:31:04,760
session for 5 minutes.

2933
02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:09,000
Hey. Hey. Hey.

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02:31:31,505 --> 02:31:33,524
[music]

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» [music]

2936
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[music]

2937
02:32:19,975 --> 02:32:21,994
[music]

2938
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:33,130
» Hey. [music]

2939
02:32:38,971 --> 02:32:40,990
[music]

2940
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:44,840
Hey.

2941
02:32:48,141 --> 02:32:50,160
» [music]

2942
02:32:57,966 --> 02:32:59,985
[music]

2943
02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:08,500
[music]

2944
02:33:28,096 --> 02:33:32,840
[music]

2945
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:32,840
» Hey,

2946
02:33:38,240 --> 02:33:41,240
hey, hey.

2947
02:33:43,816 --> 02:33:45,836
» [music]

2948
02:34:09,439 --> 02:34:12,439
» Hey,

2949
02:34:26,399 --> 02:34:29,479
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

2950
02:34:26,399 --> 02:34:29,479
hey, hey, hey.

2951
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:23,080
feeling

2952
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:26,520
free.

2953
02:35:43,027 --> 02:35:45,047
» [music]

2954
02:35:49,577 --> 02:35:51,597
[music]

2955
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:04,399
» It it is 8:02. I'm uh calling the

2956
02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:05,760
meeting back to order. And with that,

2957
02:36:04,399 --> 02:36:06,880
I'd entertain a motion.

2958
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:07,439
» Motion to adjurnn.

2959
02:36:06,880 --> 02:36:09,520
» Second.

2960
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:10,160
» All those in favor signify by saying I.

2961
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,479
» I.

2962
02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:13,680
» Any opposed? We are adjourned. Thank

2963
02:36:12,479 --> 02:36:17,479
you.

2964
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:17,479
803. Three.