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Can I get a call to order? We have a
quorum. And can I get a roll call?

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[sighs]
>> Jay Tate

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» here.
>> Greg Wheat

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» here.
>> Tara Phillips

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» here.
>> Adam Demerest

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» here.
>> Bob Rule absent.

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» If you will please stand with me for the
pledge of allegiance followed by a word

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of prayer by Sam Kloppenstein. I hope I
pronounced that right. with the memorial

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assembly of God

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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You could bow your heads. Oh gracious
heavenly father, we come before you this

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evening seeking your wisdom and
guidance. Help these individuals as they

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work to serve this community. We pray
clarity and understanding for each

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council member as they hear and discuss
the issues that face our city. We ask

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your blessing upon Purcell and a bright
future for our town. We thank you for

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your many blessings and for your
faithfulness in our lives, Jesus. We

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commend this evening and all that is
determined here to your divine guidance.

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May this meeting be productive and
effective. In the name of Christ Jesus

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we pray. Amen.
>> Thank you sir.

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Welcome everybody in the room and on
Facebook or YouTube whatever your

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choice may be.
Item number six discussion and possible

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action or five approval of the consent
agenda.

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I'll make a motion to approve agenda
item number five as written.

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» I'll second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

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vote, please?
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» Phillips.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number seven,

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presentation and discussion of the
treasures financial report.

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Good evening everybody. Um I have
prepared a little PowerPoint to make it

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a little bit easier for all of us. Um so
on this I'm just going to be giving the

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financial update um some of the and of
utility billing update as well.

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» So for the um month of July in
comparison to the uh July of last year

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uh we're pretty flat as far as tax
revenue comes uh comes in.

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We were um under on our sales tax, but
we made up for it in our use tax. About

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88.6%
um of that was made up, leaving only

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$1,943.89
um below last year.

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So, like I said in the previous slides,
this is just going to give a more visual

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of them independently. So, this is going
to show you the difference. we were

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about $16,987.90
under uh sales tax this year versus last

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year.
And then for the use tax, we actually

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received an additional $15,000 um over
last year. So, we this has been a

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consistent thing that we've been seeing.
We're seeing that the timing uh the

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sales tax is down, the use tax is up. um
trends the same way for different

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municipalities all across Oklahoma.
People are, you know, doing more

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shopping online. Um so this next piece
right here, um just giving you guys an

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update on the utility process that we
have. So our previous company was um

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HC3.
They are the people that we partnered

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with to do all of our printing and also
mailing of our utility bills. um we are

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no longer um with them as of July 1st.
We actually switched over to the state

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of Oklahoma, their central printing
department. They will be doing all of

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our utility bill printing and mailing.
So, of course, first thing, the

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benefits, we're going to lower cost. Um
but also gives us stronger quality

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control for our um customers. With that
being said, we're going to be able to um

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have a little bit more control on when
things are sent out, how soon our

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residents get the um utility bills
prior. We would send a file and hope

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within a few days they had it mailed out
where the state's policy is same day

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delivery.
So, a little bit about a few of the a

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few of the reasons that we switched um
utility billing companies. Um so

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January's bill um everyone is aware had
a pretty large mistake where they sent

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January's bill twice in place of
February's bill. So it caused quite

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confusion for everybody in the community
making it where we had to um you know

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post clarification and then wait with
that. We did we were able to get a

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correct bill sent out and then we were
able to extend the deadline so that we

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didn't have um people who were punished
for receiving the bills late. Um, and

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then the most recent error that they had
was sending Maze Bill twice. Uh, this

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wasn't the same as before because they
mailed Maze Bill and then mailed it

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directly again a few days later. So, can
we can we clarify real quick? I

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appreciate what you're saying. Is this
it wasn't a PCEL city problem. Right.

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That's what I want everybody to
understand whoever's listening. It's not

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a PCEL city problem. It was
>> who we were using.

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» Yeah.
So essentially the process was um

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utility billing team processed a file,
submitted the file to HC3 and then HC3

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handled every step from there. Once they
received the file they decided when it

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was mailed, how it was mailed. Um and
what happened was they mailed the file

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they mailed May twice. The other they
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These were things that were not
we did all of our steps correct. there

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was nothing that we could have done
outside of you know working in that

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company ourselves. So um these are you
know two of the main reasons that we

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looked looked at additional um options
when it comes to our utility billing and

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printing. Um finding a partner with a
state I think was the best case

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scenario. You know they're already
subsidized by state dollars and so

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therefore the cost of them to do the
service is already lower than what HC3

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was um was billing us. So, hot topic,
hot topic for everybody, the um current

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billing error. So, this had actually
nothing to do with HC3. This had um

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everything to do with um locating an
existing billing error and when we were

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in the process of fixing that error,
utility bills processed. Um, I'm going

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to go over what the error was and that
way we can kind of all understand um

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going forward so it's a little bit
easier to um see how the mistake can

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happen. So the way that you're build is
off of a tiered schedule. Um what that

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looks like is going to be different
based on if you're residential or if

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you're commercial, but essentially it's
going to be the amount of gallons that

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you are that you use your build for the
portion which it falls. So what incode

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was doing as you can see up here next
slide sorry as you can see up here um

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1 to 499 gallons was being charged at as
five units five 1000s which in reality

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we all know if you subtract 1 from 4,999
is actually four units. So how it should

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have been charged was at four units.
So what did this mean to the customers?

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Next slide.

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So for the customers, it means that
essentially every time they they went up

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a tier, they were being charged less
than what they were supposed to for

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1,000 gallons of water. Um I used an
example of a 15,000galon bill. It

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resulted in a $1.90 89 undercharge. Now,
this isn't a huge amount and some would

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say negligible, but when you're talking
over 4,000 customers, and this is on a

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residential customer, it's much more um
there's a much larger underbilling for a

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commercial customer. Um and so this over
five years adds up to quite a bit.

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So, we can go to the next slide.

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So, like I said, the city was working on
correcting how Encode calculated the

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tier charges. The accounting system
processed online e billills while the

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correction was underway. Um, so then
therefore the base charge that $12.99

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that you saw um and it's a different
amount for the sewer was not applied to

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the bill. And so therefore, when the the
correct bills went out, that's why there

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was any type of difference because that
base charge was not applied there. Um,

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this was corrected by encode and we have
we made sure that going forward they're

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all be built correctly.
This also brought up a lot of other

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questions that we wanted that I wanted
to be able to address here quickly. Um,

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a lot of people, you know, talk about
how much we charge here in Purcell for

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the water um their water bill and other
services that we provide them. So, um, I

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did a cost comparison for um, all the
municipalities around us and water

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districts that I could locate that had
their rates available online. And so

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this is going to show with an average
customer, which uses about 6,000

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gallons, that's going to be about a
fourperson household. Um what they would

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pay where they lived. So we ranked
number two out of the um it says six.

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There's actually eight. You'll see in
the next slide, but um of the eight

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people that we were compared to, we
ranked number two only being beat by

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Noble. Um Lexington, slightly more, more
slightly more. Washington and Newcastle

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were drastically more in their amounts
that they um would have cost. This is

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going to show a breakdown of each of
those charges. Um this is where you'll

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see those other two as well because
Goulsby Water Authority and the Rural

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Water District 8, they don't have a
sewer charge that's listed online. So um

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with that being said, this is something
that we regularly do. I regularly make

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sure that our citizens are paying an
appropriate amount for their water and

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sewer. and our rate only recently
changed. Um I did run this using our old

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rates which were prior and also all of
these cities rates that were um prior to

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any type of our change and we were
drastically under all of them. Um

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whereas now we are like I said number
two in comparison. So um just wanted to

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be able to provide this information.
Anytime anybody has any questions I have

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this built into a spreadsheet. they can
reach out to me and I can run that

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calculation for them or provide them
with the spreadsheet that has all this

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information included.

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That's it.
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» Is there any way for you to put that
online? It would kind of help.

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» So, it's a living document. um it's kind
of hard for me to just like post it

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because at a certain point it will be
outdated whenever someone else updates

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their um rates and so it would require
constant maintenance. It's something

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that I can look at with um it to see if
it's something that we could kind of

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build in but um as of right now it would
be difficult but we can look at look

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into that more.
>> Just if you could put as of September 8,

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2026 here's where we stand.
People can also request to see it.

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Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, if they want to see that, they can

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call and request it or email it.
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original plan was to have it online.
Just with the way our website is

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currently, it's not as easy as I had
hoped.

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» Thanks for finding that and fixing it
even though it wasn't your error.

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Appreciate it.
>> Of course. Thank you.

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Number

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eight, presentation and discussion of
the city manager report.

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Uh
last Friday, uh we had our end of summer

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bash for the uh city employees. That
went really well. Everybody had a lot of

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fun. Um, not bragging or anything, but I
came in first for cornhole and I didn't

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sign up for it, but [clears throat] but
it was nice to see everybody and out

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there and they really were appreciative
of uh being allowed to participate in

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all that kind of stuff.
We'll start off with the Red Hill

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stairs. And I've got our wonderful
engineer here in case I need him to

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chime in. But we've we only received one
bid. Um September 2nd was the deadline

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for the
the whoever the companies or however you

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want to say it to put in for the repair
and it came in at $193,000.

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So, that being said, um we're going to
review some more stuff on it and

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the next step would be to put it on the
October agenda for you guys to approve

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the bid to move forward with it if
everybody feels like that's what they

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want to do.
>> Did it Did they show you what that

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encompasses? Was just one spot, the
whole what? just the one section, but it

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it it includes
it's very detailed, but it includes

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handrailings. I mean, that's going to be
some additional stuff that was not there

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before, but a lot of that uh came into
play because of the the erosion caused a

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good u distance
like it would be a much greater fall

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than what it was back in the day before
the erosion started. So, that's why I

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say uh they'll have handrails and all
that kind of stuff on there,

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but [clears throat]
it's it's just I I feel like it's the

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location.

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We're lucky that it's on that first
section down, but it's still in a a

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section. I I believe the reason why
we're not getting a bunch of bids

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is because of where it's at. Is that
correct? I mean,

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» that's correct. the same time we went
out to bid and what we did is we we took

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bids from local
>> You come on up.

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» It's okay. Thank you.
>> What we did is we took bids from from

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local foundation repair companies this
time instead of just general

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contractors.
And uh the one bid, like uh uh

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Bobby said,
>> the one bid we got, they they dedicated

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and stated in writing they were going to
get a structural engineer to do a full

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review of that area and replace anything
that he said needed to be replaced. Uh

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they were also going to do a geotech. Um
and that's part of the other thing we

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were doing. At the same time, I was try
trying to get Geotech companies to, if

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you remember last month, we didn't get
any bids the previous time because we

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didn't have Geotech. We tried to get
Geotech to give us proposals, and I got

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three of them, all in the $5 to $7,000
range, but they all said, uh, that

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doesn't include any site preparation to
get our truck in there. Well, you can't

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get a truck to that site. So, I went
back to all three of them and said, "I

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need a lump sum bid for you to provide
access." And I didn't get anyone to come

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back with me. So, I think we're on the
right track doing this. I think that's,

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if I remember right, that's close to the
estimate that CEC gave you for a total

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project,
>> 14,000 under. I, you know, I think we

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could probably even get them to give us
some shop drawings after they determine

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what needed to be uh replaced, but you
know, we we can talk about that and

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bring something back.
>> Is it erosion control and all of that or

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is it just fix what we have? Does that
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» It's fixing structurally.
>> So, it's no other

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» We will we will look at that. My brother
had some ideas. Uh there's probably a

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little bit coming off the road that gets
there that could be solved with uh a

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little bit of uh uh paving uh a swale, a
curb, something to prevent the road from

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coming off, but I don't think we're
going to be able to do much with

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anything that falls on the the side of
the hill and comes down.

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Now, are we looking at this from the
perspective that this is going to fix

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the problem that is there right now and
we're not going to just fix a little

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part of it and then five years from now
have another thing go wrong with more

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erosion taking place? So, are we looking
at the whole picture of the stairs or we

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just looking at one little part of it?
>> Well, I need to I need to go back and

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see. They don't I don't think they
really pinpointed we're going to look

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from A to B. They said they're going to
look at the stairs and the landing. Um I

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would like to get out there when they
get their structural guy out there and

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make sure there's no other problems.

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» So altogether because I think last month
we were talking that it could be 400,000

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or more. So right now now we're back to
that it could be like 200,000.

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» Yeah, it it that could be a little that
could be a little better. Uh you know,

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they were a little vague on whether or
not they were going to bring in the

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grouted rip wrap to protect the area
down uh downstream. that could be an

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added expense later. Um, there was a few
things that were vague simply because

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they haven't gotten a structural
engineer on site yet either. So, we I

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think we need to pin a few things down
with them other than just them do this

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and and all of a sudden we're back in
here. Well, it didn't include it. So, we

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need to change order. Let's we need to
we need to pinpoint them a little better

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before we say okay on it.
>> I kind of agree with Adam here. is

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thinking
right now we see the main problem is the

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platform, right? But that's a large
stair system.

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» Yeah.
>> We need to inspect the rest of it to see

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are there any other problems, you know,
that need to be addressed along the way

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instead of just one thing
>> when they're out there. We need to get

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them to look, you know, further down the
road.

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» Yeah.

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That that being said, do you think the
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month?
>> We we'll sure try.

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» We'll sure try.
>> I was just curious like it doesn't have

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doesn't have to go on the October
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» I'd like an idea.
>> I'd like I'd like to, you know, we'd all

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like to get this done. Um
it's if we've got someone willing to,

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you know, a month ago we didn't have
anyone even willing to look at it. So

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we've at least now got someone willing
to look at it. Let's let's uh let's meet

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with them and fine-tune what we've got
and see if see if that's something the

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city wants to do.
Thank you.

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» Uh staying at Red Hill, we've we've met
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Team Rubicon
is a nonprofit group that travels

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and they

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they respond
usually after disasters,

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but also uh help communities for the
prevention of a disaster such as like

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the trees at Red Hill catching fire
and the discussion that was made there's

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been a lot
talk prior to meeting with them about we

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need to cut all the trees down. They're
a fire hazard. Cutting all the trees

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down is just not feasible.
Um what we've come up with is we're

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going to have to create
a a fire break somewhere.

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There really needs to be one toward the
east side where the the fieldhouse, not

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the fieldhouse, but the press box is at.
They built everything really close to

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the trees. Um I've already spoke with
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I'm going to leave that up to them to
see what they want to do. But the more

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trees that we remove on
either the east or the the com the the

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furthest east side or really most mostly
the east side, the more that we're

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looking at dirt coming in onto the the
school property.

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There are things that you can put in
place like Kenny was talking about mats

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and different things that will prevent
those type of issues, but they're really

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expensive. So,
uh, we requested to meet with them on on

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the 17th of this month one more time.
And I think we're gonna just have a

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discussion about creating a fire break
to the northwest

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that will divide the section going into
the residentials.

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There's a couple houses up there. Um,
that would essentially give the fire

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department plenty of time to respond.
And you know, if we get a big fire,

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hopefully they can get under control
before it reaches a house.

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But if again, we can what if everything
to death. A lot of embers go up, then we

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have a lot of issues with fires
everywhere. But that's that seems to be

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the best solution is to create that fire
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I brought up

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watching like games from the top of Red
Hill. In the past, everybody pe people

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would go up there and was able to see
the entire field. Now you can't you can

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only see a quarter of it now because the
trees have all grown up. So that'll be

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part of the discussion
with them to see if we can trim some

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trees down to get the you know just for
view purposes. Uh, but that's going to

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be our goal here coming up pretty quick.
Again, it's nonprofit. They don't charge

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us anything. If the city can help in any
way, um, that's usually

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what happens at other places. Cities
will chip in what they can. We We

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probably will. And it it it would
probably look like a a loader or

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something removing trees out of their
way while they're cutting stuff down. Uh

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maybe renting a chipper, I don't know.
But um that's going to be our solution

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for the Red Hill. Removing all the trees
is a really bad idea like we've all

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talked about. We think the erosion at
the stairs is bad. If we did something

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like that, we'd sure wish we didn't.
But uh you have any questions about

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» that organization? I was going to ask is
that if you remove those trees and the

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roots from that system, it's going to
cause more erosion and speed up that

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process. And if we're going to be fixing
the stairs as it is, aren't we just

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creating another problem on top of what
we already have?

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» Right. And if you leave stumps
everywhere, how does that look, too?

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It's just it's not a simple solution out
there. It's I think the fire break is

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going to be the the best solution that
we've got. And it's not just me showing

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out up out there with the engineer and
team Rubicon and our emergency manager.

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We have the MLAN County emergency
manager coming out along with uh his

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associates. We've got
uh the fire chief.

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I mean, we have a lot of people involved
out coming out there and having a

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discussion about this. It's not just a
PCEL problem, you know, just a few of us

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talking about it. We're We've got a
group little group going.

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» And Bobby, I have another question with
the stairs, especially since we know

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there's an erosion problem and the
potential danger of people going up

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there, especially kids going on those
stairs. How do we have that roped off or

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secured off to prevent that? Because I
have heard um that there have been some

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kids and stuff up on those steps.
they're going to continue to to do it.

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But the answer to your question is it
was roped off. It was taped off. They

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just break it. Uh so I had them put
jersey barriers on the top and the the

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bottom section with a sign and if
somebody ignores those signs and goes

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around them, we can't stop. We can't
post somebody out there 247

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and then something happens. I mean, we
can only do so much.

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That's really that's all we can do.
Nobody's going to be able to move a

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jersey barrier by hand anyway or four or
five friends. It's not going to happen.

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Off to the next subject. Uh do the
property where the old hospital was.

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Domino. I've been in contact with
uh the owner. Um, building permit has

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been submitted. The ODOT driveway
agreement I've signed off on and it's

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been sent for approval on August 20th.
Not quite sure why it needs an approval.

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There's already a driveway there.
Um, they ripped out the paved parking

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lot this last week. Dirt work supposed
to start uh this week or next.

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should take probably four to five weeks
for the dirt work. Uh that will also

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include the water detention for the
entire nine nine acres. All necessary

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utility relocations been completed
during construction.

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Uh construction
should be completed on the store in 7 to

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8 months and then marketing for pad
sites is ongoing

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which I believe is the development of
the rest of the block.

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We'll go with the school crossing.
um did some research on the school

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crossing for the junior high and high
school.

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Spoke with a BJ Hawkins with TA TEC
traffic engineering consultants. They're

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the ones that performed the last three
traffic studies for the city. Um one of

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them was on North 9th in front of the
elementary school where we did the

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improvements up there. um they did the
traffic study for the crossing at the

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junior high high school. So he was
involved in all of it. Um according to

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him,
they were tasked with one for doing the

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traffic study, two working with ODOT and
and try to find funding for the city to

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make this happen. Um it was mostly
talked about to be a roundabout, not so

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much a traffic light. Um the big hurdle
right now is

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funding. So if ODOT
he's he's reaching out to the certain

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individuals at ODOT to re-engage with
them to see if there's any possibility

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that that they would help us with the
project.

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Um if they don't
then it's strictly up to us to fund the

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project.
So, that being said, if

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that's the case, I've already spoke with
Win and, you know, going to the the

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grant writer to find something that that
would help with this.

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If we can't find a grant, then it's all
the city all the city funds, which I

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don't know what something like that
would cost, but I imagine it'll be in

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the millions.
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and again a lot of what that will
consist of is

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uh
signalization

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turn lanes uh sidewalks etc.
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and I don't remember I remember uh the
conversations during the meeting back in

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22 or 23, but I don't recall
if they were if we had to do a a

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sidewalk that it should extend all the
way over to Hallmark or what the

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conversations were. But right now, I'm
going to wait until I get uh in touch

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back in touch with Mr. Hawkins to see
what he's got to say.

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For me to order a traffic study for
$5,000 is not going to do any good

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whatsoever if we don't have the funding
to do what we need to get done.

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It's just we're not spending the money
wisely and then next thing we know

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uh all this time's went by again and
then and the reason

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» then we're told that we have to do
another traffic study or whatever the

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case may be. So traffic studies are
timed is what you're saying. We could if

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we tried to invest the money for a
traffic study now and it timed out

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because we didn't
>> Yeah. We don't have

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» we don't have we don't have anything to
>> Right. Just making sure everybody

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understand
>> and I don't know if a traffic study is

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really the first step or not. It could
be some kind of ser uh topographical

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survey.
I don't know. I mean, Kenny might be

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able to chime in a little bit on this,
but right now it's just uh until we hear

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something back or have a grant to look
at

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where we know what what the first step
is that and what direction to take,

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then we'll get going on that. But, I
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» does the school have any concerns or
opinions? I mean, have you visited with

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them at all about this whole thing as
well? I'm sure you have, but what what

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are we hearing from that side of things?

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and they have concerns just like
everybody else does. I mean, the kids

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crossing the street, but
>> and they did once we have more

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information from my remembering of the
meeting, um the assistant superintendent

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actually was there and they would
I'm not going to say be willing to help

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pay for it, but they would they want to
be involved because they want to see

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something happen. So, I'm sure once we
have more information, then we can have

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another meeting with them and see if
[clears throat] maybe they can, you

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know, pay half or something.
>> There was a lot of talk that that ODOT

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was willing to help back during that
time frame.

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I can't I can't really find anything on
that. Um,

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so unless
Mr. Hawkins comes back and and says, you

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know, I spoke with some so and so at at
ODOT or, you know, whatever. And and I

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try to figure out exactly what a project
like this would cost. Um,

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it's really going to be the grant
writers. What kind of grants are out

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there? And if if there there are grants
like when have mentioned in the past

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where we can apply for it and the school
district can also apply for for it, you

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know, that they don't consider, oh, this
person's already applied for this, you

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can't. I mean, that's our best scenario
for that that project, I believe. and

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the school did let us know that they
would be willing to do that. Apply for

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any grants that we find that are
>> they did or did not.

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» They did that they that they would
>> that they would.

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» Yeah.
>> So, it's just keep the communication

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open with the school district and um
>> I feel like they definitely see the need

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of something happening out there. I
mean, it's pretty bad.

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I mean, do you feel like putting those
speed limit signs up there and the

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lights, have that helped diminish any of
the driving fast or do you think it's

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» Absol? Absolutely they have. As soon as
>> as soon as somebody sees the red and

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blues going off, they're stabbing the
brakes.

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» So, yes, it it absolutely helped
tremendously.

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There's going to still be those some
that have no idea what's going on around

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them and are going to speed on through,
but

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um hopefully
they don't get caught by the police, get

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a ticket.
>> And honestly, I feel like the two main

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issues, at least for me, is um the kids
having to cross the street, they're

413
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:09,760
playing Frogger, and two um the release
traffic. So, at the end of the school

414
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:14,880
day, that's when you're seeing it the
worst because it's like a stalemate.

415
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:20,040
Nobody knows what to do. People
obviously failed that part of their

416
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:23,360
driver's test on how to do um the
[clears throat]

417
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:27,760
whatever that's called, the median. So
that's

418
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:32,800
and I did assign the guys last week to
review what we had going on out there

419
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:39,920
because there's there's a line of cars
on Green Avenue waiting for pickup and

420
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:47,760
we have people exiting from the same
same area that want to go southbound. So

421
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:51,679
nobody will let them in. Instead of that
person just turning and going north and

422
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:57,760
then, you know, turning around at the
next uh turn to make it more efficient,

423
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:06,719
these people are waiting, which is
causing more of a headache. But uh

424
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:11,679
» our guys, we had the drone up twice
looking at the big the big picture and

425
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:17,280
and we just can't see.
It's It's flowing the best it can for

426
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:20,239
what we have right now. And short of
putting somebody out there off of Green

427
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:24,560
Avenue,
primarily working traffic and and making

428
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:29,600
somebody go north or trying to stop
somebody on the state highway going

429
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:36,760
northbound so somebody can go across and
go south. I mean, it's just

430
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,760
we don't have the manpower for that.

431
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:46,000
we might have somebody available, but
again my point of leaving parts of the

432
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,360
city open,
taking a police officer away, you know,

433
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:54,080
that those type of things. So, I don't
know.

434
00:43:50,880 --> 00:44:00,000
The school has their resources going on
right there. Also, directing traffic

435
00:43:56,639 --> 00:44:03,000
just to the east, closer to the schools,
but

436
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,159
try. Everything costs money.
>> Thanks at least for doing your due

437
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,942
diligence and trying. You're trying to
figure it out. So, I appreciate that.

438
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,962
So,
[snorts]

439
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:29,760
» see,
[clears throat] we'll move on to parks.

440
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:34,080
So, you guys have already approved
the

441
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:39,760
the field out at the lake to be
refurbished for a practice field. So,

442
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:47,600
that's on our our uh capital improvement
plan for this year. The parks board have

443
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:50,960
met and had a discussion about it. would
like to bring up some points that

444
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:56,320
they've they would like [snorts] you to
hear that

445
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:01,440
some facilities throughout the city can
be utilized a little bit better than

446
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:08,239
what we currently have them at. So, if
we I'd like Clint to come up here and

447
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:12,960
and explain it and uh later on we can
have a discussion. If it's something

448
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:20,960
that we're interested in doing, then you
know, we can put it on the the ag next

449
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:25,280
agenda or agenda afterward and vote to
go that direction.

450
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:29,199
But right now,
they were continuing to work to to make

451
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:35,040
what the field is supposed to be, the
practice field. But we're prioritizing

452
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:39,199
our uh projects right now. We just can't
do all the projects at once and tie all

453
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:45,520
the money up or may not have enough
money. So, uh, that's

454
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:51,280
still
on

455
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:57,600
ongoing to to be done this fiscal year,
just not anytime like within the next

456
00:45:54,239 --> 00:46:02,400
month or two, if that makes any sense.
So, that being said, Clint, go ahead and

457
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:09,520
give your speech, sir.
>> Okay. So, good evening.

458
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:14,400
Um, so me
and Serena and Matt Martinez with the

459
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:19,520
street department. We all met at all
these different locations. Delta, I

460
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:27,520
don't know if you guys know where the
Delta field is, McCertie Park, and um

461
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:33,679
out at the lake. Um, we looked over
these areas to

462
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:42,400
go over the best options of making these
areas more

463
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:51,040
usable for the uh for practice, for not
just for softball, but for other sports.

464
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:56,400
Um, we've gone over the
the cost and the material list. Matt

465
00:46:53,040 --> 00:47:03,920
did. He checked it all out and uh we
would save a significant amount of money

466
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:08,960
um by doing this in house um parks
department, street department. Um he's

467
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:14,560
willing to help out in any way that he
can. Um

468
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:20,159
so that being said, we've gone over some
prices for improving Delta.

469
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:24,000
Um,
replacing some chain link, putting some

470
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:34,400
bases in them, making it making it a
field, not just a grass area there. Um,

471
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:41,040
but making it usable field for softball,
little league, t-ball, whatever. Uh,

472
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:46,960
that those prices are about $2,300.
Um, McCertie

473
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:51,280
Park, we've gone over
Yeah,

474
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:55,760
» question got brought up is
>> we make improvements to

475
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,679
the Delta
>> park.

476
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:06,719
So, I'm looking at new bases, pitching
rubber, home plate, uh

477
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:12,159
spring spraying the weeds, handicap,
>> accessible portable restrooms.

478
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:17,199
» Was the discussion made about ADA
compliance?

479
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:22,880
» Yeah. to that to that particular field.
>> Well, we did discuss it and what we came

480
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:27,840
up with is because we are not building
something new, we're maintaining what's

481
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:35,119
there
that the uh

482
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:40,239
shaking your head
>> probably not

483
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,920
» it's the same scenario as the lake
field. Well, we weren't

484
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,960
» probably not make sure we all understand
what you mean by that.

485
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,960
» Well, I mean there's different
categories.

486
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,400
» That's what I was That's what I'm
getting at. So,

487
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,600
» that's where I was
>> like I want to make sure we all we're

488
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,679
all on the same page because you were
asking a question. I want make sure that

489
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:06,080
we're all clear when everybody's
listening.

490
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:08,960
» Structural changes, those are going to
be your biggest one that's going to

491
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:15,520
cause it to be triggered.
>> Yeah. replacing chain link. Is that

492
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,040
does that trigger it?
>> If the I mean it's just going to

493
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,080
replacing chain link is a very broad
term. We're replacing a panel like I

494
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,600
mean it's going to be more detailed than
just

495
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:31,440
» I know cuz my concern is that I was told
that if we were to make the lake field a

496
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:36,320
soft like renovate that the moment we
touch it it has to be ADA compliant. So

497
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,760
now it doesn't
for Delta like I'm just

498
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:44,480
» the problem with the lake field is that
the structure itself was rusted and

499
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:51,119
rotted and had to been removed. If there
like let's say there's a section of

500
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:54,719
fencing that just needs new um actual
chain link established to the existing

501
00:49:52,960 --> 00:50:00,080
posts and everything. That's a different
story than like replacing full dugouts

502
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:04,159
and you know access and access points.
There's a lot more to it, but um it just

503
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,280
depends on the scope of work. I haven't
seen it. Okay.

504
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,440
» Well, I don't think there's any anything
out there, is there?

505
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,000
» It's a back stop.
>> Just a back stop.

506
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:18,159
» Right.
>> So, if you're adding structure that's

507
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:22,080
different, we're not adding the back
stop is there already. Well, if you're

508
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:24,960
adding the the fencing, you're you're
actually So, when you're adding the

509
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:29,600
He'll be able to give you better
clarification, but when you're adding

510
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:34,719
the fencing to it, you're
the way that it talks about is the

511
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,199
actual current function of um getting to
and from,

512
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,400
» you're changing that. And so, therefore,
it would need to be 88.

513
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:44,960
» So, I don't just mention though that if
it's a practice T-ball field, we don't

514
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,600
necessarily need events.
>> Just saying.

515
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,880
» Probably I want to make sure I'm
understanding too. When you're talking

516
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:54,480
about the Delta place, you're not saying
you're adding fencing around the whole

517
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,199
field. You're just replacing the fence
on the back stop.

518
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:03,600
» That's on the back.
>> So you're on the on the delta field,

519
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:06,239
you're just repairing the fence on
>> the back stop. That's it. You're not

520
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,960
adding any other fence. You're not
adding correct

521
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,840
» any structures there. You're just
replacing that fence panel.

522
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:17,440
» That's correct. The other question I
have though isn't Delta ADA compliant

523
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,520
itself, the building, the school that's
over there or we

524
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,920
» not the field.
>> Yeah, I know. But the field is right

525
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:26,000
next to
>> They're not part of the the field.

526
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,760
They're not even part
>> our lease with them has nothing to do

527
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,679
with the field or anything. I don't
think it there's anything that really

528
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:38,639
connects the two. Yeah, I get where
you're going with that.

529
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:42,400
» It's it's it's all about
>> it's all about if you think of the way

530
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,760
Yeah. they park
>> ramps

531
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:51,040
» from their car, walk there. For one, we
can't make someone we can't make them

532
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:56,400
allow us to utilize any of their spaces
that are already um dictated in their

533
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:59,119
lease. Um and then also [clears throat]
there's still no connectivity there. So

534
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,480
that's
>> So anyway, I didn't want to spend a lot

535
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:09,040
of time on this. I just [clears throat]
wanted to say keep that part in mind if

536
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:14,000
you guys didn't think of that. So just
real quick go over uh soccer all that

537
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,520
different stuff what can be utilized and
what what was better about it.

538
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:24,880
» So the idea was to there there are the
soccer fields that are at Mccuri. We

539
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:30,159
were going to move those to the lake
field where that old softball field was.

540
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:34,639
There's currently a
flag football team that practices there

541
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:41,119
quite often. We feel like the space is
large enough to accommodate both sports

542
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:47,599
in that area. Um so we don't have to
designate the entire area to one sport.

543
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,920
Um
build a fence around that area and not

544
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:57,520
be able to utilize it for anything else
ever.

545
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:02,400
So that was the idea behind that.
Yeah, I mean I like the idea. I actually

546
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:06,719
talked to Andy about this before, but
the question came up about but if we

547
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:11,520
work on Delta, does it still need to be
ADA compliant? Because that's what I was

548
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:15,440
told about the lake field. But just as a
suggestion,

549
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:21,280
McCertie Park
would be we okay. So if we have two

550
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:26,960
fields, you could delta is too small for
anything above AU. So when people

551
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:31,920
reserve them, what could also help is
Delta could be reserved for 8U and below

552
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:36,719
and McCertie for 10U and up. That way
the 10U and up teams aren't being

553
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:40,639
blocked out because you have T-ball
teams when there's another field that

554
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,119
they could use. You know what I mean? So
I don't know if that's allowed

555
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,880
discrimination or something. They do
that at PBSA. They have certain fields

556
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,560
that are designated for different age
groups. So just a suggestion. I mean, I

557
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,400
wouldn't think that it would be, but I
would

558
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,840
» Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't think so
either, but just looking at everything

559
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,560
on record,
>> that they're they're still can they can

560
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:09,679
still utilize soccer at Delta, not
Delta, U McCertie Park to where they're

561
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:16,800
they're currently doing it at. Um, that
would just give two other two places for

562
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:22,239
soccer. They would mark the lake field
with the paint, you know, all that stuff

563
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:26,080
to mark it off for for the soccer.
Um,

564
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:30,239
it I think it's really picking up in our
community. The schools already endorsed

565
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:34,400
the
soccer is it junior high and up or is it

566
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:38,159
just high school?
>> High school.

567
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:42,960
» But we've got a lot of adults too that
like to go out different locations in

568
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:46,960
the city to to play also. But I think
it's a great idea to be honest. I mean,

569
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:51,280
if we can get Delta up to par and what
it needs to be dirt so that way it can

570
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:55,440
be used for baseball and softball. I'm
with you. The lake field then you're not

571
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:59,520
taking it from one group of kids and
giving it to someone else. It's open for

572
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:04,000
everyone. I think that's great. And it'd
be even better once the grass is green.

573
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:05,440
» It look really pretty. I know.
>> Next summer. [laughter]

574
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,480
» Yeah, maybe.
>> So, their their guesstimation

575
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:17,840
» is $10,000
give or take. um

576
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:23,599
the lake field to to re rehab that just
to be a a practice field I believe was

577
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:31,440
it around $100,000.
>> So it's a it's a large gap. But again,

578
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:36,880
if the $10,000 turns into
a lot more than that, then of course I

579
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,360
will come back to council and explain
what's going on and and uh keep

580
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:45,480
everybody in the loop to see if that's
still what we want to continue with.

581
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,000
Clint, thank you and thank the board um
the parks and rec board because that is

582
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:56,080
a very good idea, I think, to save not
just the city money, but it allows the

583
00:55:53,679 --> 00:56:00,159
fields then to be multi-purpose fields.
And like, um, Terra's already said,

584
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,239
that's important that that allows a lot
of other things to happen. And I still

585
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:08,639
think even with the Lakefield, I mean,
if a softball team wanted to go out

586
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:12,679
there, there's still room out there for
them to use that as well.

587
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:22,480
» All right. Appreciate it.
Hold on. I had a couple quick questions

588
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:26,320
on a different subject. Uh, how is the
book library coming at the multi-purpose

589
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:32,159
center?
>> So, the uh

590
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:38,159
the crafter
group was working on that.

591
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:43,599
» Um, I know that it's got the first layer
of paint on it, but I'll as far as when

592
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:47,599
it's finished, I'll I'll have to get
back with you.

593
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:52,480
And uh what would be your and the
chief's thoughts of putting one at the

594
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:57,920
splash pad at Red Hill
and I'll take responsibility for it.

595
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,800
» Thoughts on what?
>> Free book library putting it at the

596
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,199
splash pad.
>> Oh,

597
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:09,840
» I'll pay for it. Put it up.
>> I don't care where it's at.

598
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:16,239
» Permission to put it there.
I got no problem with that.

599
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:20,080
» You can fill out and
>> because we have one in front of our

600
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,080
house and it's very well used. So
>> yeah,

601
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,800
» I mean if it's just a donation of like
time and you know we have a donation

602
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,960
form that you can fill out for parks and
recreation and that will be um signed

603
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:34,000
off on and
>> we'll take care of the material. Just

604
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:37,119
tell me where you want it and we'll
>> Okay. Thank you.

605
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:40,000
» Clint, one more um question for you. I
know that you guys just started

606
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,760
resurfacing the courts, the tennis
courts out there on Wednesday. How's

607
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:48,320
that going?
>> I It's coming along well. I really

608
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:53,840
didn't know what to expect with it. Um
it's taking a longer than I expected to

609
00:57:50,880 --> 00:58:01,840
get that first layer,
get that layer off. Um

610
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:06,560
but they are uh I spoke with the the
owner of the company this morning. and

611
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:12,560
they are expected to be finished by the
middle to end of next week.

612
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,800
» So,
>> and then last thing I had was the bike

613
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,920
race that just occurred in August. How
did that go?

614
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:25,320
» It went really well. There was a a big
turnout with the racers. I think there

615
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,320
was a

616
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:34,159
30
35 racers I think with their families.

617
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:38,880
I think that's right. Um there's a big
turnout. There was a lot of people out

618
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:43,840
there at the lake. It was
went really well. They um Nika was

619
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:48,800
really impressed with the area that we
have, the the location that we have.

620
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:57,719
They're interested in coming back with a
few more events throughout the year. So,

621
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,719
good things.

622
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:08,639
» Thank you. Anything else?
>> One more thing. Not just

623
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:12,960
» that that concludes my report.
>> Thank you, sir. Item number nine, uh,

624
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:18,480
discussion and possible action to
approve resolution number 26-C15,

625
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:23,199
a resolution of the city of Purcell
estab establishing minimum purchasing

626
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:28,000
limits in accordance with article 4,
section 3 of the city charter, providing

627
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:35,520
for a repealer, providing for
severability, and an effective date.

628
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:41,360
This would basically give our city
manager the ability to

629
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:45,760
sign checks up to 50.
>> So it wouldn't be signing the checks. Um

630
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:50,480
it would be uh granting the PO the
authority to do the work uh signing

631
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:55,599
contracts. So uh this is something that
is in line with a lot of our um

632
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,880
municipalities that are the same size of
us. I mean, the one that is in closest

633
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:02,960
size and relation to us would be in
Newcastle, and theirs is the exact same

634
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:07,760
would be would be the exact same amount.
Um, everything is still the same as far

635
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,960
as the final approval. So, that check is
still there where the city council will

636
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:17,760
still be signing the check. It's just
more or less um with the contracts or

637
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:22,320
purchases not having to have that 30 day
30-day delay on something that you know

638
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:27,199
back whenever our charter was originally
written that was a a ton of money where

639
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:33,679
unfortunately now it's not as much and
so things as costs go up so would this

640
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:39,679
» right all all the the purchases remain
subject to applicable competit

641
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:46,000
competitive bidding um grant
requirements and financial controls.

642
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,159
» And we can change this again down the
road if we have to

643
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:52,320
» change it anytime.
>> Yeah, it just I think the you can't go

644
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:57,840
below 7,500 because that's what our
charter says, but everything anything in

645
01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,560
between you could do.
>> Motion that we approve agenda item

646
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,000
number nine.
>> I'll second a motion to second. Can I

647
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,880
get a vote?
>> Yes.

648
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,800
» Phillips.
>> Yes.

649
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:11,040
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 10.

650
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:15,360
discussion and possible action to
approve a utility relocation agreement

651
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:23,320
between Oklahoma Turnpike Authority and
the city of Purcell concerning

652
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:23,320
relocation of I35 water tower SE-27607A

653
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:30,280
UR number 80 water tower relocation
project

654
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,119
doesn't want to come up.

655
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,360
» Yes.

656
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:58,080
» No, I don't have anything with you right
now. I'm sorry about that.

657
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,599
» It's okay. No, you're good. Uh, this is
just going to be the agreement with the

658
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,520
Oklahoma Turnpike Authority for um them
paying for the relocation of our water

659
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:10,480
tower and existing infrastructure that's
um along with it. This is going to be um

660
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:14,560
everything excluding the actual purchase
of the land. Um as well as any real

661
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:18,280
property that's listed on the land such
as the radio tower.

662
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:24,880
» Yeah.
>> Which we're getting to next.

663
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:28,159
» Which we're getting to next.
>> All right. I I motion to approve agenda

664
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,119
item number 10.
>> Second.

665
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,119
» We have a motion to second. Can I get a
vote, please?

666
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,080
» Yes.
>> Yes.

667
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,040
» Phillips.
>> Yes.

668
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:42,000
» Yes. Motion passes. is item number.
>> I apologize. [laughter]

669
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,000
» Normally I'm ready, but
>> yeah.

670
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:46,560
» Well, I told him he could go home early,
so now he's

671
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,400
» Yeah. know. Yeah. [laughter]
Item number 11, discussion and possible

672
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:53,719
action to approve joint resolution
number 26-c13/26-P5,

673
01:02:54,639 --> 01:03:00,400
a joint resolution of the city of
Purcell and Purcell Public Works

674
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Authority authorizing the city manager
to approve and execute expenditures for

675
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:10,280
the OTAA water tower relocation project
in an amount not to exceed 12,465,300.

676
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:16,320
» So, this is a little bit um of what we
just previously talked about. Of course,

677
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,719
we accepted that contract. We'll be
receiving $12,465,300.

678
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,800
Um, we have we're awarding those funds
to First United. They'll be the ones

679
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:28,880
holding that money while we're doing the
project. We did an RFP. Um, with that

680
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:35,599
being said, this also allows the city
manager's purchase um authority for this

681
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:39,159
project alone to not be limited um up
into 12,465,300.

682
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:46,960
meaning that this is going to be a
project that we're going to be working

683
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:51,920
on at um a fast pace and so days matter.
We have to have this fully completed um

684
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:56,000
by January of 2028. And so with that
being said, this does two things. Of

685
01:03:54,159 --> 01:04:00,000
course, accepting the funds, but then
also allowing the city manager to um

686
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,400
have that p that purchasing authority
for this project.

687
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:11,760
» Make a motion to approve agenda item 11
as written. I'll second.

688
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,520
» We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
vote, please?

689
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,119
» Yes.
>> Phillips.

690
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,880
» Yes.
>> Yes.

691
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,239
» Yes. Motion passes. Item number 12.
>> Good.

692
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,320
» Thank you.
>> Good job.

693
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:26,960
» Good job, Marcos.
>> Don't get comfortable. You're coming

694
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,639
back up here in a second.
>> So, um, similar to 11, this is going to

695
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,239
be 12. This is going to be
>> Hold on. I got to read it first. I

696
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,560
thought
>> I don't mean to interrupt you. Sorry.

697
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:41,280
Number 12, discussion and possible
action to approve resolution 26-C14A,

698
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:46,159
resolution of the city of Purcell,
authorizing the city manager to approve

699
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:50,719
and execute expenditures for the 2026
hangar construction project related to

700
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:56,400
the Purcell municipal airport in an
amount not to exceed 910,000 and

701
01:04:53,199 --> 01:05:00,000
providing for an effective date.
>> This is going to be the exact same as I

702
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:04,159
said before. This is a project that you
guys have already approved. This just

703
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:07,840
gives the city manager the ability to um
approve for all things that have to do

704
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,840
with this project up to the amount of
the project. This is going to be

705
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:14,400
something that we're going to do
regularly. Um you hopefully next time

706
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:18,080
it'll be like the first one where
everything's on the same agenda so you

707
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,520
know what we're what exactly it's
referencing. Um but again because you're

708
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:25,199
approving the project all things that
have to do with the project go along

709
01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:28,960
with it.
>> I motion that we approve agenda agenda

710
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,800
item number 12.
>> Second. We have a motion, a second. Can

711
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,840
I get a vote?
>> Yes.

712
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,119
» Yes.
>> Phillips.

713
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,639
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 13,

714
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:43,119
discussion and possible action to
approve pre-consil meetings and set

715
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:48,159
formal date and time of pre-consil
meetings.

716
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:52,880
» Councilman Demer, this was your idea, so
I'll let you speak.

717
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:58,960
My idea behind this um came when I went
to the meeting um for people that were

718
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:03,920
elected as municipal officials that
other cities are doing the same thing.

719
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:08,159
They meet a week before the city council
meeting. They meet in a informal

720
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:13,760
setting. They sit down and that way they
can actually discuss the agenda ahead of

721
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:19,440
time. Um, in a lot of cases for us, we
get the agenda ahead of time and we can

722
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:24,000
go see Andy um, one in one or with two
people. This would give us the ability

723
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:30,239
to actually sit down as a group and sit
down and discuss items and brainstorm

724
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:33,199
ideas before we ever got here, which I
think is a great idea because I think

725
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:37,360
when you get up in front of people, I
think sometimes people tend to react a

726
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,639
little bit differently and not have a
lot of thought process behind some of

727
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:45,280
the things that they're going to do or
say at that time. So, it would give us

728
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:50,960
some preparation beforehand. It also let
us have meaningful conversations um that

729
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:56,639
we probably would not have otherwise.
And my idea would be is do it on a

730
01:06:53,360 --> 01:07:01,040
Wednesday or Thursday the week before um
we were going to have that like at a

731
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:05,239
lunchtime or something like that. So
people that could make it could be

732
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:05,239
there.

733
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:12,400
» Just some context on the meeting to
provide some clarifying points. Um, even

734
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:17,040
though it would be informal to the
council, it would still be susceptible

735
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:21,440
to the Open Meetings Act. Um, it would
still be open to the public. Um, agendas

736
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:26,159
would still be needed, minutes would
still need to be recorded. Um, so it

737
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:31,440
would still have to comply with all of
those points for the meeting to be able

738
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:34,560
to exist. So,
>> I actually put a lot of thought into

739
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,639
this one, so I had to type out a bunch
of stuff. So, I'm just going to read it.

740
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:43,520
I did my pros and cons because I'll be
honest, when I first started doing this

741
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:49,360
a year ago, that was also my thought,
but I've learned a lot since then. And

742
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:53,119
my the pro what is definitely I'm just
going to read exactly what I have on

743
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:55,840
here. Discuss openly with each other so
we can hear each other's thoughts on

744
01:07:54,560 --> 01:08:00,719
certain matters. And you're right, and
have good conversation to go back and

745
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:05,119
forth. However, the cons that I have
thought really hard on are the

746
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:10,320
following. We [snorts] have it's another
appointment on an already busy schedule.

747
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:17,440
I don't know that I could add another
meeting to have a meeting about this

748
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:20,639
meeting. You know what I mean? Um so
basically it goes into my second thing.

749
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,400
It would be redundant since we would
only be able to talk about and go over

750
01:08:22,639 --> 01:08:28,320
what is on that agenda at the live
meetings. So which leads into the other

751
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:34,079
thing then the live meetings we wouldn't
have anything to discuss because we've

752
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:39,199
already talked about it. Um, but my
biggest thing on this is I don't like

753
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:43,360
the idea of any type of perception that
we as council are trying to hide

754
01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:48,960
information. And yes, while it might be
an open meeting, it still could give

755
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:52,800
that perception. So for me, I would
never want the public to think that

756
01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:58,159
we're having quote unquote secret
meetings, even though it's open. I

757
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:06,400
understand that, but a lot of people
probably would not understand that. Um,

758
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:10,159
and for me, I meet with Andy, when Bobby
I mean, I take that that's our

759
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:17,199
responsibility. We should all be doing
that anyway when we go over the agenda.

760
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:25,199
Um, last week it was
uh Jay, myself, Andy, Wyn, and Bobby.

761
01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:28,800
And honestly, that was beneficial. Um,
and I think that if we did something

762
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:33,199
like that and we just rotate it, it
doesn't need to be the same two people

763
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:37,520
each week that does that and then after
that you can call and have your

764
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:43,119
conversations. I mean, so that's kind of
my stance on it.

765
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:49,320
» Andy, you have a this is going to
directly affect you. So if you would

766
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,320
like to speak

767
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:54,159
[laughter]
>> that was Jay.

768
01:09:51,840 --> 01:10:00,679
» There's your sign.
Now, it will be um I I talked to Chris

769
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:00,679
about it. Um

770
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:10,320
it is subject to the Open Meetings Act.
It will be a it'll be a totally separate

771
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:12,960
agenda because it's not a actionable
agenda. So, it's going to be a

772
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:17,360
completely different agenda than what
I'm preparing for the actual meeting

773
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:22,400
a week ahead of time. I don't know if
you noticed the

774
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:27,520
drastic changes from the agenda that you
get on Monday to the agenda that you get

775
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:34,159
on Friday, but most of the stuff comes
in in that that week. Um,

776
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:37,599
so there now if there are big things you
want to discuss, I mean, we can always

777
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:40,239
do if there is something big on, you
know, a big agenda item that we need to

778
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,760
discuss, we can always do a special
meeting,

779
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:47,679
» you know, and have a have a what do you
call that?

780
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,560
» Yeah.
special meeting.

781
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,560
» It's a special meeting, but there's a
word for it. I'm having a brain space.

782
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:55,505
But
>> that's exactly what I was going to say.

783
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:01,360
We could do it on a case by case
[clears throat] basis. So, if we have

784
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:06,239
something of larger scale coming up that
sometimes it would be nice to be able to

785
01:11:03,599 --> 01:11:10,719
go to the co local coffee shop and talk
amongst ourselves, but I know we can't

786
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:14,719
legally do it that way. I know we've
done we've done some for the water

787
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,679
department when they were trying to get
the capital improvement plan for the

788
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:21,360
water department and all of the things.
We had a special meeting just for that

789
01:11:19,599 --> 01:11:25,199
and it was an open disc I mean we had an
agenda but we had an open discussion

790
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:28,079
about that particular item. So big items
like that you can work session is what

791
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:33,440
they called it.
>> I can totally understand what Councilman

792
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:38,719
Demerest is saying. You know, there are
so many hard topics and agenda items

793
01:11:37,119 --> 01:11:43,440
that come before us on a regular basis
and it you've got to try your best to

794
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:49,440
get your arms around it and study it as
much as you can. And so I I appreciate

795
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:56,000
the the thought behind what Councilman
Dimmer is saying. I also know too, I can

796
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,960
see what um
you

797
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:59,760
» call me Terara.
>> Tara

798
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:05,920
is saying as well. Well, I'm trying to
be professional, but

799
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:10,079
» um but personally, I think I do my best
as all the other council members to to

800
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:14,159
study the agenda, study the topics,
everything that's coming before us. I

801
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:19,840
try to look at it and study it as much
as I can. If I have questions, I do go

802
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:25,199
up and talk to Andy or our city to get
clarifications about things in that

803
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:30,000
process. Um, and even then, this is an
open meeting where anybody in the

804
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:35,040
public, the the agendas are posted.
Anybody in the public can come and hear

805
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:38,880
what we're talking about here and give
their opinion in a council meeting. Not

806
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:46,159
very many people do that, but they're
able to do that. So, um, I appreciate

807
01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:51,599
the the thought, um, Adam. Uh but
personally I personally feel like you

808
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:58,960
know we are doing what we're doing now
in a sufficient and efficient way. Um

809
01:12:54,719 --> 01:13:04,320
that's just my two cents. So
one thing I would like to add is that I

810
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:10,159
think my view of looking at things is a
lot from being on teams running teams

811
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:14,880
and being on effective boards. And I do
know that when you are working with any

812
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:18,480
type of board or any type of group, if
you don't come together and you don't

813
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:22,239
meet together and you don't go over
things together, there's always going to

814
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,760
be things that slip through. And when
you look at some of the meetings even

815
01:13:23,599 --> 01:13:29,280
that we've had in the past where we're
asking questions that I think if we had

816
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:33,440
been together beforehand, we would have
had a better pattern. We wouldn't be

817
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:38,960
asking redundant questions. We'd be able
to do that. I do understand what um you

818
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,880
know, Congresswoman Phillips is saying
and Congressman Wheat and and stuff and

819
01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:46,480
I and I definitely understand where
Andy's coming from too because it does

820
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:50,719
put a lot on her her plate. I'm just
saying that's just from my perspective

821
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:54,560
and my experience when I look at things
that just like for example coming up the

822
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:59,280
hospital board's going to have a
strategic planning meeting. There's a

823
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,480
reason why they meet together to go over
things that even though you have an

824
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:06,320
agenda, even though you have it ahead
ahead of time, but it was a suggestion

825
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:09,440
that, like I said, I came up with when I
went to that meeting, too, because I

826
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:13,199
know there's other cities that are doing
that currently to try and address some

827
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:18,719
of the issues that they find.
>> Maybe we need a charter change,

828
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:21,040
something to look into. You know what I
mean?

829
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:27,280
» But I I can understand where you're
coming from completely. sec. I mean, it

830
01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:31,840
it's almost worth evaluating before
doing that, having a second full

831
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:35,920
meeting. Some cities do two meetings a
month. Um, it would condense down the

832
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:40,079
information that you need to consume,
but I'm just saying if you're going to

833
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:44,159
evaluate having a premeating to be able
to con to digest all the information, it

834
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:49,599
might just be worth it to have that
middle meeting that some cities do have.

835
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:53,360
Um, but again, I'm not I'm not
suggesting that either. Um it's it's the

836
01:14:51,599 --> 01:14:57,599
same amount of it's the same amount of
workload, but I'm just saying, you know,

837
01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:01,360
it if it's hard because yes, it's a lot
of information to digest, but you know,

838
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:06,320
we're available if anybody needs any
type of additional information or wants

839
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:10,199
to talk something out um to to be there
to help. Let me just

840
01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:23,760
[laughter]
>> if you specifically want a specific time

841
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:28,560
that you want to meet like uh Jay and
one other person usually comes in at

842
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:31,520
Wednesday at 8 o'clock. We can always
schedule a time if you if you prefer to

843
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,760
have a schedule
>> and then

844
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:38,960
» and I'm usually there the Friday before
that. So if you ever want to join me,

845
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:44,560
feel free. But also, anytime any of the
councilmen want to call and discuss

846
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:46,880
something with me, my phone is I if I
don't answer, I'm subbing, but I will

847
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,313
call you back.
>> What is that phone number? [laughter]

848
01:15:52,560 --> 01:16:00,320
» I don't mine out of a loudspeaker
football game, so I don't mind.

849
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:06,480
» But, uh,
that's a good idea. I mean, if you want

850
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:12,320
to come to the What's the date? The 5th
would be the 4th. Third be the 30th.

851
01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:16,079
» Am I looking at that right?
>> Before the meeting.

852
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:19,360
» Yeah.
If you want to come to the 30th, you

853
01:16:18,639 --> 01:16:24,000
can.
>> I already meet with Andy. That wasn't

854
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:29,599
the point. Was what I, like I said, Andy
and uh Win and Bobby have always been

855
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:33,840
more than nice enough to meet at that
time. It wasn't the point of not being

856
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:37,920
able to meet with them or being able to
call one of you at a time. It was the

857
01:16:35,519 --> 01:16:41,559
point about bringing everybody together
to discuss it.

858
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:47,299
» [laughter]

859
01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:58,800
» Well, and and I get that. And
everybody's we do this for free and

860
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:04,719
everybody's got life and family and
other obligations. So, it's just hard to

861
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:09,000
get the train on the same all the train
on the same tracks at the same time.

862
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:18,240
Wait,
what did you start out with?

863
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:21,920
» You told her she was right. So now here
we go.

864
01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:26,000
» Everything Councilwoman Phillips says is
always correct.

865
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:31,679
» You all on record.
>> Yes. particularly having a rotating um

866
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:36,319
couple of council members meeting
together with city staff to go over

867
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:40,000
items, answer questions, and like you
said, you guys can have individual phone

868
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:45,120
calls between one another so long as
you're not using that to usurp the open

869
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:50,719
meetings act. And also, just like you
treat um budget time, you'll have we

870
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,760
have pre meetings. Until then, I think
that's a great idea, especially if we're

871
01:17:52,319 --> 01:17:59,479
looking at bonding or anything that's
going to go to a vote of the people. I

872
01:17:55,519 --> 01:17:59,479
think you can do it case by case.

873
01:18:04,559 --> 01:18:12,800
» Do I have an or is there no action
taken?

874
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:18,479
» So no action taken. Is
that correct council?

875
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:22,639
I want to recess this meeting. We're
going to go open the Purcell public

876
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:26,559
works meeting.
Call to order. We have a quorum. Can I

877
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:29,559
get a roll call, please?
>> Here

878
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:37,559
» item number three, approval of the
consent agenda.

879
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:45,679
I'll make a motion to approve agenda
item three is written.

880
01:18:44,559 --> 01:18:48,639
» I'll second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

881
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:50,639
vote?
>> Yes.

882
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:54,960
» Yes.
>> Yes.

883
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:58,399
» Yes. Motion passes. Item number five,
discussion and possible action to

884
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:05,639
approve reimbursement of electric
utility rebate to Maze Properties LLC in

885
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,639
the sum of $9,76356

886
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:16,800
for the following. A lot 2, block one,
Cliff's fifth edition, $4,881.78

887
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:20,840
and B, lot four, block one, Cliff's
fifth edition, $4,881.78.

888
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:31,599
So these are reimbursements that um they
receive when establishing utilities when

889
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:37,760
they're turning on utilities. The only
problem with these are that they are

890
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:42,800
severely past due. The time period in
which they had to claim these has passed

891
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:48,960
by about seven years. Uh 2019 was when
they were due to be turned on. Um,

892
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:55,200
from my understanding, they were told to
still present them and council can

893
01:19:51,600 --> 01:20:02,640
approve or deny them as they come. Um,
with that being said, I think it sets a

894
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:07,359
bad precedent going forward with current
developments that we have going on. I

895
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:11,359
mean, take our neighbors up north. You
know, they have more neighborhoods being

896
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,800
developed than you can actually count.
Um, and so it just sets that precedent

897
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:20,160
that even though we established these
timelines and these deadlines, they're

898
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:24,160
not real. And so it's just something
that we need to think about. It doesn't

899
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:27,359
matter to me whose name is on the the
voucher. It's nothing to do with that.

900
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:31,280
It's just strictly the timeline and the
date that we're we're talking about. It

901
01:20:29,359 --> 01:20:36,319
was it was written on their vouchers
their specific date to be done by and

902
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,359
we're now, you know, seven years past
that. So

903
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,640
» did was there an explanation? How did
this even come up? who read shouldn't

904
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:46,960
say red flagged it, who brought it to
our attention, that type of thing.

905
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:50,640
» So, it's it's not necessarily of like um
how it came up. We've known about this.

906
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:55,760
Um there's about six more of these
outstanding that are old. Um this was

907
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:59,760
they're just brought to us as they come.
This is the first time they've come

908
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:03,120
since I've been here that I'm aware of
um to be able to have this conversation

909
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:07,840
with you guys, but prior it's they've
they've been um accepted. Has a

910
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:14,080
conversation been had with this specific
company letting them know that hey these

911
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:17,040
vouchers are expired?
>> Um I have not personally spoken with

912
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:22,240
them but I know they're aware that the
vouchers are expired.

913
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:25,920
» It looks like the last time it was
>> it looks like the last time it was

914
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:30,319
discussed and this is information that
um the city clerk and I were talking

915
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:36,399
about in an open meeting where I guess
2020 or 2021 that was the last time that

916
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:36,399
they were presented.

917
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:41,439
Okay.
So it was discussed at that time

918
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:46,399
whenever they were, you know, a couple
one or two years expired

919
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:53,359
and we were trying to review minutes to
see exactly how that conversation

920
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:57,680
transpired. But it sounds like at least
as to the as to the ones that were being

921
01:21:55,200 --> 01:22:02,960
presented at that time, the council
determined that it was in the best

922
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:06,680
interest of the city, I suppose, to
allow them to go through.

923
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:17,520
But those were two years expired.
>> Yeah. Three years expired at the latest.

924
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:22,560
And we're also talking about unbudgeted
funds. These are funds that are not

925
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:27,280
budgeted for. Um we don't have just a
bucket for these types of things because

926
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:31,520
the vouchers are issued. We know how
many of the vouchers are issued and the

927
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:38,000
amounts that the vouchers are for. Um
and so it it does negatively impact us.

928
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:42,200
Um on a budget aspect as well because
this was something that happened in

929
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,200
2019.

930
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,359
» Yes.
>> There's no reason for us to continue to

931
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:53,920
budget that money.
>> So when in normal cases the money would

932
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:59,359
be budgeted up to 2019 and then at that
point the money would be put into other

933
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:03,040
things because it's expired. The other
concern I would have is are we saying

934
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:09,439
that there's at least six others or is
there even potentially more that are

935
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:14,000
expired um that we're talking about?
>> Okay. So, how many are we talking about

936
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:17,359
that haven't been claimed?
There's six additional.

937
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:21,680
» Yeah, because I I think when I talked to
you, I wanted to say we came up with

938
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:25,680
between 20 and 25
um when I was looking at just numbers

939
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,640
because I think that's also important to
note that if we're going to take into

940
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,760
account that we're going to approve
these and you also have to take into

941
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:35,920
account if there's let's say there's 10
more that that amount of money would

942
01:23:34,319 --> 01:23:40,319
need to be approved for those people
too. And with it being seven years past,

943
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:44,080
I do think that that's a that's a long
time. It's not a couple days. It's not a

944
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:49,439
year. That's a long time.
>> This Go ahead. Now I'm the one

945
01:23:46,319 --> 01:23:53,680
interrupting. Sorry. [laughter]
>> Didn't we just have this discussion last

946
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:57,840
month
being reimbured?

947
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,880
» Williams edition.
>> No, it was a similar conversation, but

948
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:04,000
it wasn't the same type same
conversation. There was no agreement

949
01:24:02,319 --> 01:24:11,200
prior. This was an agreement that we had
with them. They didn't. So neither side

950
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:16,240
fulfilled like neither side didn't meet
their their obligations of the

951
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:21,040
agreement. It was just the time deadline
that is now. So that's that's my problem

952
01:24:19,359 --> 01:24:24,240
with it is that you're bringing
something think about like taking an

953
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,760
expired check to the bank. You bring a
seven-year-old check. It just doesn't

954
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:32,800
work
>> right. And this might be rhetorical, but

955
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:36,000
» if they know that they're expired, why
are they submitting them when they're

956
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,680
expired?
>> Um, to be quite frank, because they've

957
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,640
gotten they've gotten paid on them
before.

958
01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:45,040
So like, you know, why would you not
try?

959
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,319
» Is this money that the city owes them
though? Like did was this

960
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,760
» contractually? No.
>> Yeah. I think the way the code is

961
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:57,359
written, they become null and void. So
they be kind of become uninforceable by

962
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:03,520
the developer. There is a subsection in
the part of the code that gives the

963
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:06,640
council authority to deviate or modify.
So I'm just trying to make my sure my

964
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:12,800
arms around it. There's been no
discussion

965
01:25:08,319 --> 01:25:16,640
on their part right to hey oh we just we
found out that we were seven years past

966
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,479
due. I mean what how did this all of a
sudden come up? I guess and maybe you

967
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:23,680
already said that
>> council and past city manager

968
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:31,040
» had a
sorry past council past city manager had

969
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:35,600
discussions with um Mr. Mays and they
agreed to let him present them to

970
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,680
council and do it on a case- by case
basis.

971
01:25:36,319 --> 01:25:43,600
» Is your question why it's been brought
up tonight?

972
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:47,840
I'm just asking why is it why is it just
now coming up if it's so many years

973
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:51,600
» because two more homes have been built
and that's what I'm trying to figure out

974
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,720
what what all of a sudden brought this
up to to to do this vouchers they're

975
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,000
trying to turn
>> two vouchers that they're trying to get

976
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,080
reimbured for that they finally have
homes on that are hooked up to

977
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,560
electricity
>> at the same time then I get that point

978
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:09,439
if if it's if those lots have been
sitting vacant for all these years and

979
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:15,120
not able to be sold
Now they're saying they're sold and

980
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:18,960
» I don't think that's probably the case.
Nobody's going to let their let

981
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,439
that long.
>> No, the house was not there. So it's a

982
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,160
vacant lot.
>> It's a new build. They were not

983
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:28,399
» say it has to be new build,
>> right? Well, that's what I'm saying. So

984
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:32,240
in essence, I mean, there was no need at
that point if I'm understanding

985
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:36,000
correctly to turn in a voucher because
there was nothing done there. would not

986
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:39,520
we would not do a re.
>> So the whole point the the whole point

987
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:44,960
of it being written in the code the way
that it is is to both in to incentivize

988
01:26:42,399 --> 01:26:48,880
development but it's also to incentivize
expedited development. We don't want

989
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:53,439
someone who's going to come in and you
know frankly do kind of like this and

990
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:56,960
develop over a you know 20 year
timeline.

991
01:26:55,040 --> 01:27:01,439
It's supposed to be reimbursement for
the infrastructure that's put in place

992
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:04,399
um for those homes. And that's why once
the home is connected to our utility

993
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:09,680
system that their reimbursements are
processed. Um with that being said,

994
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:13,920
these two that we are talking about
right now, their new homes where this

995
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:18,319
the utility services are just now being
turned on and this is something this

996
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:23,160
infrastructure that we're now paying for
has been in the ground to prior to 2019.

997
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,640
I think
>> they have had an opportunity at all

998
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:37,120
before they expired to maybe communicate
with the city that hey, we need a new

999
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,359
» um contract made or was that just
>> they should have done an extension if

1000
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,000
they were going to do it
>> and they failed to do that. Okay, got

1001
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:46,479
it.
>> I agree with Win. I think we're setting

1002
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,479
a dangerous precedent.
>> So,

1003
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,439
I motion that we do not approve agenda
item number five.

1004
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:10,280
» I second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Can I get

1005
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,280
a vote?

1006
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,840
» Okay. I motion to deny the uh
reimbursements on agenda item number

1007
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:30,160
five.
>> Second.

1008
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:32,640
» We have a amended motion. Can we get a
vote?

1009
01:28:32,319 --> 01:28:34,640
» Yes.
>> Phillips.

1010
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,840
» Yes.
>> Can I abstain?

1011
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:45,760
» Yes. It counts as a no in Oklahoma.
>> Okay. Just be aware.

1012
01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:48,760
» I uh vote yes to deny. Motion fails.
Correct.

1013
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:56,080
» Three. 3 to one.
>> Motion passes.

1014
01:28:53,520 --> 01:29:02,817
» Motion passes. Do not pay. Okay. I This
doesn't happen very often, so

1015
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:05,680
Okay. So, I can move on. Correct.
[sighs]

1016
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:10,080
Agenda item number six, discussion and
possible action to approve services and

1017
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:15,960
supplies from Hoffman Water Wells LLC
for well number four not to exceed

1018
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,960
$65,64610

1019
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:26,439
as follows. A 20,500 for removal and
inspection

1020
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,439
testing and $45,14610

1021
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:34,319
for new equipment install. I'm prepared
for this one. I swear it's the same same

1022
01:29:33,359 --> 01:29:38,240
thing happened last time with the other
weld. We're going to do the same thing

1023
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:40,800
with this one. Um it's up to that point,
but it probably won't cost that much

1024
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,680
because we're going to pull and see and
I guarantee it's same issue we had last

1025
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,160
time. So they'll probably have to
replace the pump. I don't know yet, but

1026
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:50,319
that's probably what's going to happen.
and no more tape. That's been said

1027
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,040
several times to these people. So that's
what's going on with the same thing.

1028
01:29:51,359 --> 01:29:56,560
Same well, same situation, same
everything.

1029
01:29:53,920 --> 01:30:00,319
» So
only got one more left. One more well

1030
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:02,640
left to actually bring up and that's the
last one. Everything else is good.

1031
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,920
» Okay.
>> So

1032
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:10,120
» So are we in budget when it comes to
this? Is it all covered? We have

1033
01:30:11,594 --> 01:30:17,200
[laughter]
>> So,

1034
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:22,479
» as Bobby kind of hinted at earlier, um
some additional contracts have come to

1035
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:26,720
light for the I um
what's the interstate? Sorry.

1036
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:32,080
» I35. I almost said I40. That's not the
case. Um the I35

1037
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:36,399
um engineering cost. And so I relied on
some information that was provided to me

1038
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:40,800
for budgeting for that this year. um
that it just doesn't doesn't seem to be

1039
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:46,000
as accurate as I thought. And so we are
looking at um presenting next meeting

1040
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:50,960
some
restructuring of our capital improvement

1041
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:56,319
projects. Um with that being said, this
is covered by funds that are not

1042
01:30:54,399 --> 01:31:02,880
even something that we could touch other
than water projects though. So, our bond

1043
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:06,640
that we have outstanding $740,000ish,
um we can only use it for water projects

1044
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:12,920
and so this would therefore fall
underneath that to be utilized. So, it's

1045
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,920
it's not the same funds.

1046
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,640
» A motion that we pass agenda item number
six.

1047
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,760
» A second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

1048
01:31:20,319 --> 01:31:23,359
vote?
>> Yes.

1049
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,920
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1050
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:31,880
» Yes. Motion passes.
>> Awesome. Thank you. How did he get out

1051
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,880
of his public works report?

1052
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:34,179
[snorts and laughter]

1053
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:40,160
» We can't do it. It's not on there. But I
just caught that.

1054
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:43,350
» Oh, you know what? You didn't buy what?
I'm not on there. [laughter]

1055
01:31:45,359 --> 01:31:50,479
» You can comment. Okay.
>> Let me do my letter now. later.

1056
01:31:49,845 --> 01:31:54,800
[laughter]
Item number seven, uh, discussion and

1057
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:58,600
possible action to approve joint
resolution number 26-C13-26-P5,

1058
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:04,319
a joint resolution of the city of
Purcell and the Purcell Public Works

1059
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:08,560
Authority authorizing the city manager
to approve and execute expenditures for

1060
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:15,800
the OTAA water tower relocation project
in an amount not to exceed 12,465

1061
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,800
thou 12,465,300,

1062
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:22,640
which is the same thing we did on the
city council side.

1063
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,399
Yes. Exact same thing as before. We're
just

1064
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,000
» make a motion to approve agenda item
seven as written.

1065
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,319
» I second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

1066
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,000
vote?
>> Yes.

1067
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,720
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1068
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,840
» Yes. Motion passes. Number eight.
Discussion and possible action to

1069
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:40,000
approve signing the agreement with Glenn
Sullivan and Associates to provide

1070
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:45,439
surveying, geotechnical study,
engineering, and inspection for the OTAA

1071
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:49,840
I35 water tower project in the sum of
768,000.

1072
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:57,200
100,000 for topographic survey and
utility line located services. 668,000

1073
01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:59,040
for engineering and design.
>> Start real quick.

1074
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,840
» Do we need to edit that?
>> Chris,

1075
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:06,560
» would this one not be redundant? Would
the other one

1076
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:11,920
» with with
Yeah, with seven. Would that not make

1077
01:33:09,359 --> 01:33:15,479
this eight and nine redundant? Because
Bobby has the

1078
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,601
Go ahead.
[laughter]

1079
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:32,000
» Uh this is for the as it says all the
surveying preparing the legal

1080
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:38,640
descriptions and the design of up to
about six miles of water line. Uh also a

1081
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:42,560
new site uh and site plan for the new
water tower.

1082
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:47,359
um everything that goes with it
coordinating with right-of-way

1083
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:52,560
acquisition. It does not include the
actual right-of-way acquisition. That's

1084
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:57,840
under item nine. Uh there was a cost
estimate at the very end of the

1085
01:33:54,479 --> 01:34:02,800
agreement that has been uh vetted and
approved by OTAA.

1086
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:09,520
Uh so they are on board with all of
this. We will be subbing out uh

1087
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:16,880
surveying to uh Pinnacle who's done most
of our surveying uh within PCEL projects

1088
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:22,080
in the past. So you know is there any
questions? We're this thing is this

1089
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:28,000
thing is is a hot timeline. We're going
to have five, six people full-time on it

1090
01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:35,040
for a long time to get this completed.
And it's our goal to go to DEEQ

1091
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:39,680
as soon as possible.
Just this may not be the right place to

1092
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:44,560
ask the question, but
there's numerous people asking, is this

1093
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:47,840
going to affect water pressure on this
side of town if we're moving this tank

1094
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:50,160
somewhere else further?
>> No.

1095
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:55,200
» So, and that was And can you explain
that? So anybody listening can maybe

1096
01:34:52,640 --> 01:35:00,960
understand the concept because I every
everybody I talked to are talking uh the

1097
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:06,160
water tower we're moving supplies
pressure to the north part of town

1098
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:11,840
basically the hospital and further north
and then all the way out past the ODOT

1099
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:16,560
building uh out through there. We're
moving the tower but we're going to keep

1100
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:21,680
it at the same elevation. That's why we
have to move it a ways. We do not have a

1101
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:25,760
site picked yet. Um, we will be picking
a site, but it has to be comparable

1102
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:30,800
elevation. That's what drives your
pressure. How tall that tower is and

1103
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:35,359
where the water is in that tower. It
will not affect pressure.

1104
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:39,200
» So, regardless of it's moved several
miles away, the pressure is not going to

1105
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:44,880
be affected. pressure is not going to
because with this if it's moved too far

1106
01:35:42,319 --> 01:35:49,040
and there could be fire flows that
affect some pressure, we will be

1107
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:57,680
upgrading the pump station on Grant
Street to offset that if that occurs.

1108
01:35:54,880 --> 01:36:02,240
Again, until we get a final site, we
won't know the hydraulics, which is part

1109
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:07,000
of this project. Get the hydraulics, get
it all submitted to DEEQ for their

1110
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,000
approval.

1111
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:15,359
» Thanks. I have a question for our
attorney. Can you look at the 668,000

1112
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:20,840
on the agenda? Is that going to be a
problem since there's one zero missing?

1113
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:27,200
» Do we need to do
>> clarify it on the record? [snorts] It's

1114
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,960
» I want to clarify.
>> It's not even really a number because of

1115
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:37,200
where the commas are.
I just want to clarify for the minutes

1116
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:42,800
that the 600 it should be $668,000.
There should be an extra zero on there

1117
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:44,560
on agenda item number eight.
>> I don't

1118
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:48,760
» I should have caught that. I'm sorry.
>> Please don't write the check that way.

1119
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:55,359
» Yeah. And these funds are coming
directly from the 12 million. Um these

1120
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:59,280
are again are we we're receiving we're
expected to receive the funds within 45

1121
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:04,000
days of signing of the contract and then
as soon as we receive the funds we'll be

1122
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:07,359
able to issue out these payments. So, we
don't know for sure yet where that water

1123
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:11,319
tower is going to be moved because my
assumption or what I thought

1124
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:17,240
» this is about his contract.
>> Okay. Yeah.

1125
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:29,319
» It's not It wasn't the contractors where
it's going to be located.

1126
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,240
We'll get to that.

1127
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,560
» So, we need a motion. I'll make a motion
to accept agenda item eight is written.

1128
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:42,080
» I'll second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

1129
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,960
vote, please?
>> Yes.

1130
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,640
» Phillips.
>> Yes.

1131
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:48,399
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number nine,

1132
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:52,319
discussion of possible action to hire
Pinnacle Consulting Management Group,

1133
01:37:50,319 --> 01:37:57,040
Inc. for right-of-way and easement
acquisition associated with the

1134
01:37:53,920 --> 01:38:00,960
relocating the I35 water storage
facility associated with the new OTAA

1135
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:08,240
interchange.
This is uh an approved vendor as far as

1136
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:14,000
OTAA is concerned. We are utilizing
their survey division to do the survey

1137
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:18,160
for the project. So, it really only made
sense to allow their right-of-way

1138
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:21,840
acquisition, who's right across the
hall, to do the right-of-way

1139
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:27,920
acquisition. It's going to speed up the
process, not having a third company

1140
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:33,280
involved in the thing. So, I I ran it by
OTAA. Are you okay with it? OTAA was

1141
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:36,000
fine with us with us uh recommending
Pinnacle.

1142
01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:42,399
» And the reason that it's open-ended is
because the specifics, how many need to

1143
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:47,040
be acquired and or there's different
different ways that each different

1144
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:50,640
acquisition has to be priced and
calculated. We won't know those numbers

1145
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:54,720
until more definitive like timeline of
where and um

1146
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:58,720
just how it's going to be done.
>> We get a final alignment. We'll get a

1147
01:38:56,399 --> 01:39:03,280
final parcel count and then we can bring
back to you a formal contract with with

1148
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,479
the amount that will be charged,
>> which we won't have to do because Bobby

1149
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:09,520
can just approve it. But um yes, so
we'll be able to just Bobby will just be

1150
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:13,439
able to move move through those as they
come in to expedite that process.

1151
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:22,800
I move that we approve agend item agenda
item number nine.

1152
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:25,520
» We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
vote?

1153
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:28,399
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1154
01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:34,240
» Yes. Motion passes. I want to recess
this meeting. Call the order the PCEL

1155
01:39:32,319 --> 01:39:39,800
economic development authority. We have
a quorum. Can I get a roll call?

1156
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,800
» Here.

1157
01:39:41,359 --> 01:39:46,560
Item number three, approval of the
consent agenda.

1158
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,920
» I'll make a motion to approve. Agenda
item three is written.

1159
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,120
» Second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

1160
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,080
vote?
>> Yes.

1161
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,399
» Phillips.
>> Yes.

1162
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:58,479
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. I want to adjourn

1163
01:39:56,399 --> 01:40:03,439
this meeting and then I want to call a
joint session between the Purcell City

1164
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:07,840
Council regular meeting and the Purcell
public works

1165
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:12,319
meeting. And if I can get my fingers to
work.

1166
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:15,920
Item number 14, executive session
discussion and consideration to enter

1167
01:40:14,319 --> 01:40:22,479
executive session to be held in
accordance with 25os 307 subsection B1

1168
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:25,920
and 3. A discussing the employment,
hiring, appointment, promotion,

1169
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:30,800
demotion, disciplining or resignation of
any individual salaried public officer

1170
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:35,120
or employee discuss B discussing the
sale, purchase, lease, acquisition or

1171
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:38,880
appraisal of real property by the public
body.

1172
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:44,240
I'll make a motion to go into executive
session with city council, our attorney,

1173
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:48,600
city manager, city treasurer Marcos
Castillo, and Kenny Sullivan.

1174
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,680
» I second it.
>> Motion, a second.

1175
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,240
» I got a vote.
>> Yes.

1176
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:04,040
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. We are now in

1177
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:04,040
executive session at 7:32.

1178
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,080
I just want to make sure

1179
02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:05,439
We need a motion to come out.
>> I'll make a motion to come out of

1180
02:33:04,479 --> 02:33:08,239
executive session.
>> Second.

1181
02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:10,880
» Have a motion.
>> Second. Can I get a vote?

1182
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:14,960
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1183
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:22,319
» Yes. Yes.
>> No action taken. So, we're going to go

1184
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:27,200
to item number 16 down there on the end.
Council Dennis, you're up.

1185
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:30,800
» Oh, okay. I do want to thank again all
the city workers and stuff. I know

1186
02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:33,680
they've been out diligently working out
in the heat and stuff with a lot of

1187
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:37,200
different things, whether it's from the
water department. I've also seen them

1188
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:41,920
down Green Avenue working on the
landscaping and things there. Um, I do

1189
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:45,359
also want to thank the Purcell Parks and
Wreck for their due diligence and the

1190
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:50,479
stuff that they've been doing, keeping
the lawnmowing up out at the lake. The

1191
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:55,520
lake looks really nice. um the courts
out there being redone for the first

1192
02:33:52,160 --> 02:34:00,479
time in several years. And uh I also
want to thank Andy and again Wyn and

1193
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:04,479
Bobby for meeting with me separately to
go through the agendas and stuff. And

1194
02:34:02,479 --> 02:34:10,319
again thank all of our city council
members as well. Um the city is, you

1195
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:14,479
know, not one person, it's a group of
people all working together and I think

1196
02:34:12,319 --> 02:34:19,120
we do a good job of that. And Chris, I
thank you for your due diligence on the

1197
02:34:16,880 --> 02:34:24,800
stuff, especially legally that we're not
sure about sometimes. Um, and you're

1198
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:29,359
always there to help as well. So, thank
you guys.

1199
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:34,600
» I have nothing. Thank you.
>> No comment.

1200
02:34:31,600 --> 02:34:34,600
» Chris,

1201
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:45,080
I think

1202
02:34:46,479 --> 02:34:52,520
But there are some neighborhoods. I was
just thinking about this first.

1203
02:35:29,920 --> 02:35:33,880
Sorry. I interrupted.

1204
02:35:35,920 --> 02:35:41,720
» I don't have anything. Maros, it's your
time to shine.

1205
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:46,560
» Only thing I ever comment about
already been built.

1206
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:49,600
» Okay.
>> And they're going to move that in a

1207
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:52,640
couple weeks. So that'll be done.
>> You didn't call me. I want to put my

1208
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:57,200
initials in the
>> And under budget.

1209
02:35:54,399 --> 02:36:01,760
» Hey, that's good.
>> When?

1210
02:35:59,359 --> 02:36:07,120
» Thank you guys. Look forward to many
more.

1211
02:36:03,439 --> 02:36:10,359
» Hopefully a long time. You go. I go.
I'm good.

1212
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:19,200
» My only comment is these. This is I need
you to put your chief hat on.

1213
02:36:17,040 --> 02:36:23,000
» Are these electric bikes that the kids
are riding around legal?

1214
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:32,479
» Well,
yes and no, depending on

1215
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:35,520
where they're at. I mean, if they're on
a state highway or something like that

1216
02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:38,160
and they
>> still can't be blown through stop signs

1217
02:36:37,439 --> 02:36:42,560
and
>> Well, that's my concern.

1218
02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:45,800
» I got one the other night because he ran
stop sign.

1219
02:36:46,319 --> 02:36:52,239
» Yeah, we've been getting looking at some
of the calls. We looks like we've been

1220
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:58,319
getting complaints on a certain little
group of kids doing

1221
02:36:54,560 --> 02:37:02,640
riding those little electric bikes and
scooters or whatever. Can the police

1222
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:07,040
department just put out a public service
announcement that they're subject to the

1223
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:10,960
rules of the road? I don't know that
help or not. Just got to educate the

1224
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:14,239
parents or I don't know.
>> I'll talk to some of the officers to see

1225
02:37:12,399 --> 02:37:19,479
who they've contacted and have already
talked with. See where we're are with

1226
02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:19,479
that.

1227
02:37:19,520 --> 02:37:27,750
» Anyway, that is
>> Yes. Thank you. And

1228
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:29,770
» ask the chief next month. The new chief.
[laughter]

1229
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:40,640
You will always be chief to me.
Uh, without anything else, I

1230
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:40,640
we're done and I'm out of