[8:48] Can I get a call to order? We have a
quorum. And can I get a roll call?
[8:51] [sighs]
>> Jay Tate
[8:53] » here.
>> Greg Wheat
[8:54] » here.
>> Tara Phillips
[8:55] » here.
>> Adam Demerest
[8:56] » here.
>> Bob Rule absent.
[8:58] » If you will please stand with me for the
pledge of allegiance followed by a word
[9:02] of prayer by Sam Kloppenstein. I hope I
pronounced that right. with the memorial
[9:07] assembly of God
[9:11] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[9:16] stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[9:21] for all.
[9:28] You could bow your heads. Oh gracious
heavenly father, we come before you this
[9:33] evening seeking your wisdom and
guidance. Help these individuals as they
[9:37] work to serve this community. We pray
clarity and understanding for each
[9:41] council member as they hear and discuss
the issues that face our city. We ask
[9:46] your blessing upon Purcell and a bright
future for our town. We thank you for
[9:51] your many blessings and for your
faithfulness in our lives, Jesus. We
[9:54] commend this evening and all that is
determined here to your divine guidance.
[9:59] May this meeting be productive and
effective. In the name of Christ Jesus
[10:03] we pray. Amen.
>> Thank you sir.
[10:09] Welcome everybody in the room and on
Facebook or YouTube whatever your
[10:16] choice may be.
Item number six discussion and possible
[10:22] action or five approval of the consent
agenda.
[10:29] I'll make a motion to approve agenda
item number five as written.
[10:33] » I'll second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a
[10:36] vote, please?
>> Yes.
[10:37] » Phillips.
>> Yes.
[10:39] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number seven,
[10:43] presentation and discussion of the
treasures financial report.
[10:50] Good evening everybody. Um I have
prepared a little PowerPoint to make it
[10:55] a little bit easier for all of us. Um so
on this I'm just going to be giving the
[11:00] financial update um some of the and of
utility billing update as well.
[11:10] » So for the um month of July in
comparison to the uh July of last year
[11:17] uh we're pretty flat as far as tax
revenue comes uh comes in.
[11:21] We were um under on our sales tax, but
we made up for it in our use tax. About
[11:27] 88.6%
um of that was made up, leaving only
[11:31] $1,943.89
um below last year.
[11:39] So, like I said in the previous slides,
this is just going to give a more visual
[11:43] of them independently. So, this is going
to show you the difference. we were
[11:47] about $16,987.90
under uh sales tax this year versus last
[11:53] year.
And then for the use tax, we actually
[11:57] received an additional $15,000 um over
last year. So, we this has been a
[12:02] consistent thing that we've been seeing.
We're seeing that the timing uh the
[12:07] sales tax is down, the use tax is up. um
trends the same way for different
[12:14] municipalities all across Oklahoma.
People are, you know, doing more
[12:17] shopping online. Um so this next piece
right here, um just giving you guys an
[12:22] update on the utility process that we
have. So our previous company was um
[12:27] HC3.
They are the people that we partnered
[12:31] with to do all of our printing and also
mailing of our utility bills. um we are
[12:36] no longer um with them as of July 1st.
We actually switched over to the state
[12:42] of Oklahoma, their central printing
department. They will be doing all of
[12:45] our utility bill printing and mailing.
So, of course, first thing, the
[12:49] benefits, we're going to lower cost. Um
but also gives us stronger quality
[12:53] control for our um customers. With that
being said, we're going to be able to um
[12:59] have a little bit more control on when
things are sent out, how soon our
[13:03] residents get the um utility bills
prior. We would send a file and hope
[13:09] within a few days they had it mailed out
where the state's policy is same day
[13:13] delivery.
So, a little bit about a few of the a
[13:17] few of the reasons that we switched um
utility billing companies. Um so
[13:22] January's bill um everyone is aware had
a pretty large mistake where they sent
[13:28] January's bill twice in place of
February's bill. So it caused quite
[13:32] confusion for everybody in the community
making it where we had to um you know
[13:36] post clarification and then wait with
that. We did we were able to get a
[13:41] correct bill sent out and then we were
able to extend the deadline so that we
[13:45] didn't have um people who were punished
for receiving the bills late. Um, and
[13:50] then the most recent error that they had
was sending Maze Bill twice. Uh, this
[13:55] wasn't the same as before because they
mailed Maze Bill and then mailed it
[13:59] directly again a few days later. So, can
we can we clarify real quick? I
[14:03] appreciate what you're saying. Is this
it wasn't a PCEL city problem. Right.
[14:08] That's what I want everybody to
understand whoever's listening. It's not
[14:11] a PCEL city problem. It was
>> who we were using.
[14:14] » Yeah.
So essentially the process was um
[14:18] utility billing team processed a file,
submitted the file to HC3 and then HC3
[14:24] handled every step from there. Once they
received the file they decided when it
[14:28] was mailed, how it was mailed. Um and
what happened was they mailed the file
[14:33] they mailed May twice. The other they
used January's file instead of February.
[14:37] These were things that were not
we did all of our steps correct. there
[14:42] was nothing that we could have done
outside of you know working in that
[14:45] company ourselves. So um these are you
know two of the main reasons that we
[14:49] looked looked at additional um options
when it comes to our utility billing and
[14:53] printing. Um finding a partner with a
state I think was the best case
[14:57] scenario. You know they're already
subsidized by state dollars and so
[15:01] therefore the cost of them to do the
service is already lower than what HC3
[15:05] was um was billing us. So, hot topic,
hot topic for everybody, the um current
[15:13] billing error. So, this had actually
nothing to do with HC3. This had um
[15:17] everything to do with um locating an
existing billing error and when we were
[15:22] in the process of fixing that error,
utility bills processed. Um, I'm going
[15:28] to go over what the error was and that
way we can kind of all understand um
[15:33] going forward so it's a little bit
easier to um see how the mistake can
[15:38] happen. So the way that you're build is
off of a tiered schedule. Um what that
[15:45] looks like is going to be different
based on if you're residential or if
[15:49] you're commercial, but essentially it's
going to be the amount of gallons that
[15:52] you are that you use your build for the
portion which it falls. So what incode
[15:58] was doing as you can see up here next
slide sorry as you can see up here um
[16:05] 1 to 499 gallons was being charged at as
five units five 1000s which in reality
[16:13] we all know if you subtract 1 from 4,999
is actually four units. So how it should
[16:19] have been charged was at four units.
So what did this mean to the customers?
[16:24] Next slide.
[16:28] So for the customers, it means that
essentially every time they they went up
[16:32] a tier, they were being charged less
than what they were supposed to for
[16:37] 1,000 gallons of water. Um I used an
example of a 15,000galon bill. It
[16:43] resulted in a $1.90 89 undercharge. Now,
this isn't a huge amount and some would
[16:51] say negligible, but when you're talking
over 4,000 customers, and this is on a
[16:55] residential customer, it's much more um
there's a much larger underbilling for a
[17:02] commercial customer. Um and so this over
five years adds up to quite a bit.
[17:09] So, we can go to the next slide.
[17:14] So, like I said, the city was working on
correcting how Encode calculated the
[17:17] tier charges. The accounting system
processed online e billills while the
[17:22] correction was underway. Um, so then
therefore the base charge that $12.99
[17:26] that you saw um and it's a different
amount for the sewer was not applied to
[17:30] the bill. And so therefore, when the the
correct bills went out, that's why there
[17:35] was any type of difference because that
base charge was not applied there. Um,
[17:38] this was corrected by encode and we have
we made sure that going forward they're
[17:42] all be built correctly.
This also brought up a lot of other
[17:46] questions that we wanted that I wanted
to be able to address here quickly. Um,
[17:50] a lot of people, you know, talk about
how much we charge here in Purcell for
[17:54] the water um their water bill and other
services that we provide them. So, um, I
[17:59] did a cost comparison for um, all the
municipalities around us and water
[18:04] districts that I could locate that had
their rates available online. And so
[18:07] this is going to show with an average
customer, which uses about 6,000
[18:11] gallons, that's going to be about a
fourperson household. Um what they would
[18:15] pay where they lived. So we ranked
number two out of the um it says six.
[18:22] There's actually eight. You'll see in
the next slide, but um of the eight
[18:24] people that we were compared to, we
ranked number two only being beat by
[18:28] Noble. Um Lexington, slightly more, more
slightly more. Washington and Newcastle
[18:34] were drastically more in their amounts
that they um would have cost. This is
[18:39] going to show a breakdown of each of
those charges. Um this is where you'll
[18:42] see those other two as well because
Goulsby Water Authority and the Rural
[18:45] Water District 8, they don't have a
sewer charge that's listed online. So um
[18:50] with that being said, this is something
that we regularly do. I regularly make
[18:55] sure that our citizens are paying an
appropriate amount for their water and
[18:59] sewer. and our rate only recently
changed. Um I did run this using our old
[19:06] rates which were prior and also all of
these cities rates that were um prior to
[19:12] any type of our change and we were
drastically under all of them. Um
[19:16] whereas now we are like I said number
two in comparison. So um just wanted to
[19:21] be able to provide this information.
Anytime anybody has any questions I have
[19:24] this built into a spreadsheet. they can
reach out to me and I can run that
[19:27] calculation for them or provide them
with the spreadsheet that has all this
[19:31] information included.
[19:35] That's it.
>> Yep.
[19:40] » Is there any way for you to put that
online? It would kind of help.
[19:43] » So, it's a living document. um it's kind
of hard for me to just like post it
[19:49] because at a certain point it will be
outdated whenever someone else updates
[19:53] their um rates and so it would require
constant maintenance. It's something
[19:57] that I can look at with um it to see if
it's something that we could kind of
[20:02] build in but um as of right now it would
be difficult but we can look at look
[20:08] into that more.
>> Just if you could put as of September 8,
[20:12] 2026 here's where we stand.
People can also request to see it.
[20:17] Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, if they want to see that, they can
[20:19] call and request it or email it.
>> Yeah, of course. And like I said, my my
[20:23] original plan was to have it online.
Just with the way our website is
[20:26] currently, it's not as easy as I had
hoped.
[20:30] » Thanks for finding that and fixing it
even though it wasn't your error.
[20:35] Appreciate it.
>> Of course. Thank you.
[20:40] Number
[20:46] eight, presentation and discussion of
the city manager report.
[20:52] Uh
last Friday, uh we had our end of summer
[20:58] bash for the uh city employees. That
went really well. Everybody had a lot of
[21:02] fun. Um, not bragging or anything, but I
came in first for cornhole and I didn't
[21:07] sign up for it, but [clears throat] but
it was nice to see everybody and out
[21:14] there and they really were appreciative
of uh being allowed to participate in
[21:19] all that kind of stuff.
We'll start off with the Red Hill
[21:24] stairs. And I've got our wonderful
engineer here in case I need him to
[21:30] chime in. But we've we only received one
bid. Um September 2nd was the deadline
[21:38] for the
the whoever the companies or however you
[21:43] want to say it to put in for the repair
and it came in at $193,000.
[21:53] So, that being said, um we're going to
review some more stuff on it and
[22:02] the next step would be to put it on the
October agenda for you guys to approve
[22:09] the bid to move forward with it if
everybody feels like that's what they
[22:13] want to do.
>> Did it Did they show you what that
[22:15] encompasses? Was just one spot, the
whole what? just the one section, but it
[22:20] it it includes
it's very detailed, but it includes
[22:24] handrailings. I mean, that's going to be
some additional stuff that was not there
[22:28] before, but a lot of that uh came into
play because of the the erosion caused a
[22:36] good u distance
like it would be a much greater fall
[22:42] than what it was back in the day before
the erosion started. So, that's why I
[22:48] say uh they'll have handrails and all
that kind of stuff on there,
[22:53] but [clears throat]
it's it's just I I feel like it's the
[22:56] location.
[22:59] We're lucky that it's on that first
section down, but it's still in a a
[23:04] section. I I believe the reason why
we're not getting a bunch of bids
[23:09] is because of where it's at. Is that
correct? I mean,
[23:12] » that's correct. the same time we went
out to bid and what we did is we we took
[23:17] bids from local
>> You come on up.
[23:21] » It's okay. Thank you.
>> What we did is we took bids from from
[23:26] local foundation repair companies this
time instead of just general
[23:30] contractors.
And uh the one bid, like uh uh
[23:36] Bobby said,
>> the one bid we got, they they dedicated
[23:40] and stated in writing they were going to
get a structural engineer to do a full
[23:46] review of that area and replace anything
that he said needed to be replaced. Uh
[23:53] they were also going to do a geotech. Um
and that's part of the other thing we
[23:58] were doing. At the same time, I was try
trying to get Geotech companies to, if
[24:04] you remember last month, we didn't get
any bids the previous time because we
[24:08] didn't have Geotech. We tried to get
Geotech to give us proposals, and I got
[24:13] three of them, all in the $5 to $7,000
range, but they all said, uh, that
[24:19] doesn't include any site preparation to
get our truck in there. Well, you can't
[24:24] get a truck to that site. So, I went
back to all three of them and said, "I
[24:29] need a lump sum bid for you to provide
access." And I didn't get anyone to come
[24:33] back with me. So, I think we're on the
right track doing this. I think that's,
[24:40] if I remember right, that's close to the
estimate that CEC gave you for a total
[24:46] project,
>> 14,000 under. I, you know, I think we
[24:49] could probably even get them to give us
some shop drawings after they determine
[24:54] what needed to be uh replaced, but you
know, we we can talk about that and
[24:59] bring something back.
>> Is it erosion control and all of that or
[25:02] is it just fix what we have? Does that
make sense?
[25:05] » It's fixing structurally.
>> So, it's no other
[25:09] » We will we will look at that. My brother
had some ideas. Uh there's probably a
[25:14] little bit coming off the road that gets
there that could be solved with uh a
[25:19] little bit of uh uh paving uh a swale, a
curb, something to prevent the road from
[25:26] coming off, but I don't think we're
going to be able to do much with
[25:29] anything that falls on the the side of
the hill and comes down.
[25:33] Now, are we looking at this from the
perspective that this is going to fix
[25:36] the problem that is there right now and
we're not going to just fix a little
[25:40] part of it and then five years from now
have another thing go wrong with more
[25:45] erosion taking place? So, are we looking
at the whole picture of the stairs or we
[25:49] just looking at one little part of it?
>> Well, I need to I need to go back and
[25:53] see. They don't I don't think they
really pinpointed we're going to look
[25:57] from A to B. They said they're going to
look at the stairs and the landing. Um I
[26:03] would like to get out there when they
get their structural guy out there and
[26:07] make sure there's no other problems.
[26:12] » So altogether because I think last month
we were talking that it could be 400,000
[26:16] or more. So right now now we're back to
that it could be like 200,000.
[26:20] » Yeah, it it that could be a little that
could be a little better. Uh you know,
[26:24] they were a little vague on whether or
not they were going to bring in the
[26:27] grouted rip wrap to protect the area
down uh downstream. that could be an
[26:32] added expense later. Um, there was a few
things that were vague simply because
[26:38] they haven't gotten a structural
engineer on site yet either. So, we I
[26:43] think we need to pin a few things down
with them other than just them do this
[26:48] and and all of a sudden we're back in
here. Well, it didn't include it. So, we
[26:52] need to change order. Let's we need to
we need to pinpoint them a little better
[26:56] before we say okay on it.
>> I kind of agree with Adam here. is
[26:59] thinking
right now we see the main problem is the
[27:04] platform, right? But that's a large
stair system.
[27:07] » Yeah.
>> We need to inspect the rest of it to see
[27:10] are there any other problems, you know,
that need to be addressed along the way
[27:13] instead of just one thing
>> when they're out there. We need to get
[27:17] them to look, you know, further down the
road.
[27:19] » Yeah.
[27:23] That that being said, do you think the
that we'll have those answers by next
[27:29] month?
>> We we'll sure try.
[27:31] » We'll sure try.
>> I was just curious like it doesn't have
[27:34] doesn't have to go on the October
agenda, but
[27:38] » I'd like an idea.
>> I'd like I'd like to, you know, we'd all
[27:42] like to get this done. Um
it's if we've got someone willing to,
[27:48] you know, a month ago we didn't have
anyone even willing to look at it. So
[27:52] we've at least now got someone willing
to look at it. Let's let's uh let's meet
[27:58] with them and fine-tune what we've got
and see if see if that's something the
[28:01] city wants to do.
Thank you.
[28:08] » Uh staying at Red Hill, we've we've met
with uh Team Rubicon on August 11th. So,
[28:16] Team Rubicon
is a nonprofit group that travels
[28:22] and they
[28:25] they respond
usually after disasters,
[28:31] but also uh help communities for the
prevention of a disaster such as like
[28:38] the trees at Red Hill catching fire
and the discussion that was made there's
[28:45] been a lot
talk prior to meeting with them about we
[28:49] need to cut all the trees down. They're
a fire hazard. Cutting all the trees
[28:53] down is just not feasible.
Um what we've come up with is we're
[28:58] going to have to create
a a fire break somewhere.
[29:05] There really needs to be one toward the
east side where the the fieldhouse, not
[29:11] the fieldhouse, but the press box is at.
They built everything really close to
[29:16] the trees. Um I've already spoke with
the district.
[29:22] I'm going to leave that up to them to
see what they want to do. But the more
[29:27] trees that we remove on
either the east or the the com the the
[29:33] furthest east side or really most mostly
the east side, the more that we're
[29:38] looking at dirt coming in onto the the
school property.
[29:42] There are things that you can put in
place like Kenny was talking about mats
[29:48] and different things that will prevent
those type of issues, but they're really
[29:52] expensive. So,
uh, we requested to meet with them on on
[29:59] the 17th of this month one more time.
And I think we're gonna just have a
[30:05] discussion about creating a fire break
to the northwest
[30:10] that will divide the section going into
the residentials.
[30:15] There's a couple houses up there. Um,
that would essentially give the fire
[30:19] department plenty of time to respond.
And you know, if we get a big fire,
[30:25] hopefully they can get under control
before it reaches a house.
[30:30] But if again, we can what if everything
to death. A lot of embers go up, then we
[30:36] have a lot of issues with fires
everywhere. But that's that seems to be
[30:43] the best solution is to create that fire
break. And then um
[30:48] I brought up
[30:52] watching like games from the top of Red
Hill. In the past, everybody pe people
[30:58] would go up there and was able to see
the entire field. Now you can't you can
[31:02] only see a quarter of it now because the
trees have all grown up. So that'll be
[31:06] part of the discussion
with them to see if we can trim some
[31:10] trees down to get the you know just for
view purposes. Uh, but that's going to
[31:16] be our goal here coming up pretty quick.
Again, it's nonprofit. They don't charge
[31:22] us anything. If the city can help in any
way, um, that's usually
[31:29] what happens at other places. Cities
will chip in what they can. We We
[31:34] probably will. And it it it would
probably look like a a loader or
[31:39] something removing trees out of their
way while they're cutting stuff down. Uh
[31:42] maybe renting a chipper, I don't know.
But um that's going to be our solution
[31:47] for the Red Hill. Removing all the trees
is a really bad idea like we've all
[31:52] talked about. We think the erosion at
the stairs is bad. If we did something
[31:57] like that, we'd sure wish we didn't.
But uh you have any questions about
[32:05] » that organization? I was going to ask is
that if you remove those trees and the
[32:09] roots from that system, it's going to
cause more erosion and speed up that
[32:13] process. And if we're going to be fixing
the stairs as it is, aren't we just
[32:17] creating another problem on top of what
we already have?
[32:22] » Right. And if you leave stumps
everywhere, how does that look, too?
[32:26] It's just it's not a simple solution out
there. It's I think the fire break is
[32:30] going to be the the best solution that
we've got. And it's not just me showing
[32:36] out up out there with the engineer and
team Rubicon and our emergency manager.
[32:40] We have the MLAN County emergency
manager coming out along with uh his
[32:46] associates. We've got
uh the fire chief.
[32:51] I mean, we have a lot of people involved
out coming out there and having a
[32:54] discussion about this. It's not just a
PCEL problem, you know, just a few of us
[33:00] talking about it. We're We've got a
group little group going.
[33:05] » And Bobby, I have another question with
the stairs, especially since we know
[33:09] there's an erosion problem and the
potential danger of people going up
[33:13] there, especially kids going on those
stairs. How do we have that roped off or
[33:18] secured off to prevent that? Because I
have heard um that there have been some
[33:23] kids and stuff up on those steps.
they're going to continue to to do it.
[33:28] But the answer to your question is it
was roped off. It was taped off. They
[33:33] just break it. Uh so I had them put
jersey barriers on the top and the the
[33:40] bottom section with a sign and if
somebody ignores those signs and goes
[33:46] around them, we can't stop. We can't
post somebody out there 247
[33:51] and then something happens. I mean, we
can only do so much.
[33:56] That's really that's all we can do.
Nobody's going to be able to move a
[33:59] jersey barrier by hand anyway or four or
five friends. It's not going to happen.
[34:10] Off to the next subject. Uh do the
property where the old hospital was.
[34:16] Domino. I've been in contact with
uh the owner. Um, building permit has
[34:24] been submitted. The ODOT driveway
agreement I've signed off on and it's
[34:30] been sent for approval on August 20th.
Not quite sure why it needs an approval.
[34:36] There's already a driveway there.
Um, they ripped out the paved parking
[34:42] lot this last week. Dirt work supposed
to start uh this week or next.
[34:50] should take probably four to five weeks
for the dirt work. Uh that will also
[34:56] include the water detention for the
entire nine nine acres. All necessary
[35:02] utility relocations been completed
during construction.
[35:06] Uh construction
should be completed on the store in 7 to
[35:11] 8 months and then marketing for pad
sites is ongoing
[35:17] which I believe is the development of
the rest of the block.
[35:28] We'll go with the school crossing.
um did some research on the school
[35:34] crossing for the junior high and high
school.
[35:37] Spoke with a BJ Hawkins with TA TEC
traffic engineering consultants. They're
[35:45] the ones that performed the last three
traffic studies for the city. Um one of
[35:50] them was on North 9th in front of the
elementary school where we did the
[35:54] improvements up there. um they did the
traffic study for the crossing at the
[36:00] junior high high school. So he was
involved in all of it. Um according to
[36:06] him,
they were tasked with one for doing the
[36:10] traffic study, two working with ODOT and
and try to find funding for the city to
[36:15] make this happen. Um it was mostly
talked about to be a roundabout, not so
[36:23] much a traffic light. Um the big hurdle
right now is
[36:29] funding. So if ODOT
he's he's reaching out to the certain
[36:37] individuals at ODOT to re-engage with
them to see if there's any possibility
[36:43] that that they would help us with the
project.
[36:46] Um if they don't
then it's strictly up to us to fund the
[36:53] project.
So, that being said, if
[36:58] that's the case, I've already spoke with
Win and, you know, going to the the
[37:03] grant writer to find something that that
would help with this.
[37:07] If we can't find a grant, then it's all
the city all the city funds, which I
[37:12] don't know what something like that
would cost, but I imagine it'll be in
[37:16] the millions.
Um
[37:22] and again a lot of what that will
consist of is
[37:27] uh
signalization
[37:32] turn lanes uh sidewalks etc.
Um,
[37:41] and I don't remember I remember uh the
conversations during the meeting back in
[37:46] 22 or 23, but I don't recall
if they were if we had to do a a
[37:53] sidewalk that it should extend all the
way over to Hallmark or what the
[37:58] conversations were. But right now, I'm
going to wait until I get uh in touch
[38:04] back in touch with Mr. Hawkins to see
what he's got to say.
[38:09] For me to order a traffic study for
$5,000 is not going to do any good
[38:15] whatsoever if we don't have the funding
to do what we need to get done.
[38:20] It's just we're not spending the money
wisely and then next thing we know
[38:27] uh all this time's went by again and
then and the reason
[38:30] » then we're told that we have to do
another traffic study or whatever the
[38:33] case may be. So traffic studies are
timed is what you're saying. We could if
[38:37] we tried to invest the money for a
traffic study now and it timed out
[38:40] because we didn't
>> Yeah. We don't have
[38:42] » we don't have we don't have anything to
>> Right. Just making sure everybody
[38:46] understand
>> and I don't know if a traffic study is
[38:48] really the first step or not. It could
be some kind of ser uh topographical
[38:52] survey.
I don't know. I mean, Kenny might be
[38:55] able to chime in a little bit on this,
but right now it's just uh until we hear
[39:00] something back or have a grant to look
at
[39:03] where we know what what the first step
is that and what direction to take,
[39:09] then we'll get going on that. But, I
mean,
[39:11] » does the school have any concerns or
opinions? I mean, have you visited with
[39:17] them at all about this whole thing as
well? I'm sure you have, but what what
[39:20] are we hearing from that side of things?
[39:25] and they have concerns just like
everybody else does. I mean, the kids
[39:29] crossing the street, but
>> and they did once we have more
[39:34] information from my remembering of the
meeting, um the assistant superintendent
[39:40] actually was there and they would
I'm not going to say be willing to help
[39:46] pay for it, but they would they want to
be involved because they want to see
[39:50] something happen. So, I'm sure once we
have more information, then we can have
[39:54] another meeting with them and see if
[clears throat] maybe they can, you
[39:58] know, pay half or something.
>> There was a lot of talk that that ODOT
[40:04] was willing to help back during that
time frame.
[40:09] I can't I can't really find anything on
that. Um,
[40:13] so unless
Mr. Hawkins comes back and and says, you
[40:17] know, I spoke with some so and so at at
ODOT or, you know, whatever. And and I
[40:23] try to figure out exactly what a project
like this would cost. Um,
[40:28] it's really going to be the grant
writers. What kind of grants are out
[40:32] there? And if if there there are grants
like when have mentioned in the past
[40:37] where we can apply for it and the school
district can also apply for for it, you
[40:43] know, that they don't consider, oh, this
person's already applied for this, you
[40:46] can't. I mean, that's our best scenario
for that that project, I believe. and
[40:53] the school did let us know that they
would be willing to do that. Apply for
[40:56] any grants that we find that are
>> they did or did not.
[40:59] » They did that they that they would
>> that they would.
[41:01] » Yeah.
>> So, it's just keep the communication
[41:04] open with the school district and um
>> I feel like they definitely see the need
[41:12] of something happening out there. I
mean, it's pretty bad.
[41:17] I mean, do you feel like putting those
speed limit signs up there and the
[41:21] lights, have that helped diminish any of
the driving fast or do you think it's
[41:27] » Absol? Absolutely they have. As soon as
>> as soon as somebody sees the red and
[41:31] blues going off, they're stabbing the
brakes.
[41:34] » So, yes, it it absolutely helped
tremendously.
[41:39] There's going to still be those some
that have no idea what's going on around
[41:43] them and are going to speed on through,
but
[41:46] um hopefully
they don't get caught by the police, get
[41:51] a ticket.
>> And honestly, I feel like the two main
[41:54] issues, at least for me, is um the kids
having to cross the street, they're
[42:01] playing Frogger, and two um the release
traffic. So, at the end of the school
[42:08] day, that's when you're seeing it the
worst because it's like a stalemate.
[42:12] Nobody knows what to do. People
obviously failed that part of their
[42:16] driver's test on how to do um the
[clears throat]
[42:20] whatever that's called, the median. So
that's
[42:24] and I did assign the guys last week to
review what we had going on out there
[42:30] because there's there's a line of cars
on Green Avenue waiting for pickup and
[42:36] we have people exiting from the same
same area that want to go southbound. So
[42:44] nobody will let them in. Instead of that
person just turning and going north and
[42:49] then, you know, turning around at the
next uh turn to make it more efficient,
[42:55] these people are waiting, which is
causing more of a headache. But uh
[43:02] » our guys, we had the drone up twice
looking at the big the big picture and
[43:08] and we just can't see.
It's It's flowing the best it can for
[43:13] what we have right now. And short of
putting somebody out there off of Green
[43:18] Avenue,
primarily working traffic and and making
[43:22] somebody go north or trying to stop
somebody on the state highway going
[43:27] northbound so somebody can go across and
go south. I mean, it's just
[43:32] we don't have the manpower for that.
[43:37] we might have somebody available, but
again my point of leaving parts of the
[43:43] city open,
taking a police officer away, you know,
[43:47] that those type of things. So, I don't
know.
[43:50] The school has their resources going on
right there. Also, directing traffic
[43:56] just to the east, closer to the schools,
but
[44:07] try. Everything costs money.
>> Thanks at least for doing your due
[44:12] diligence and trying. You're trying to
figure it out. So, I appreciate that.
[44:16] So,
[snorts]
[44:20] » see,
[clears throat] we'll move on to parks.
[44:26] So, you guys have already approved
the
[44:31] the field out at the lake to be
refurbished for a practice field. So,
[44:37] that's on our our uh capital improvement
plan for this year. The parks board have
[44:44] met and had a discussion about it. would
like to bring up some points that
[44:49] they've they would like [snorts] you to
hear that
[44:54] some facilities throughout the city can
be utilized a little bit better than
[44:57] what we currently have them at. So, if
we I'd like Clint to come up here and
[45:04] and explain it and uh later on we can
have a discussion. If it's something
[45:10] that we're interested in doing, then you
know, we can put it on the the ag next
[45:15] agenda or agenda afterward and vote to
go that direction.
[45:23] But right now,
they were continuing to work to to make
[45:27] what the field is supposed to be, the
practice field. But we're prioritizing
[45:32] our uh projects right now. We just can't
do all the projects at once and tie all
[45:37] the money up or may not have enough
money. So, uh, that's
[45:42] still
on
[45:47] ongoing to to be done this fiscal year,
just not anytime like within the next
[45:54] month or two, if that makes any sense.
So, that being said, Clint, go ahead and
[46:01] give your speech, sir.
>> Okay. So, good evening.
[46:06] Um, so me
and Serena and Matt Martinez with the
[46:11] street department. We all met at all
these different locations. Delta, I
[46:17] don't know if you guys know where the
Delta field is, McCertie Park, and um
[46:24] out at the lake. Um, we looked over
these areas to
[46:30] go over the best options of making these
areas more
[46:36] usable for the uh for practice, for not
just for softball, but for other sports.
[46:46] Um, we've gone over the
the cost and the material list. Matt
[46:53] did. He checked it all out and uh we
would save a significant amount of money
[46:59] um by doing this in house um parks
department, street department. Um he's
[47:06] willing to help out in any way that he
can. Um
[47:12] so that being said, we've gone over some
prices for improving Delta.
[47:18] Um,
replacing some chain link, putting some
[47:21] bases in them, making it making it a
field, not just a grass area there. Um,
[47:29] but making it usable field for softball,
little league, t-ball, whatever. Uh,
[47:36] that those prices are about $2,300.
Um, McCertie
[47:43] Park, we've gone over
Yeah,
[47:48] » question got brought up is
>> we make improvements to
[47:54] the Delta
>> park.
[47:57] So, I'm looking at new bases, pitching
rubber, home plate, uh
[48:03] spring spraying the weeds, handicap,
>> accessible portable restrooms.
[48:09] » Was the discussion made about ADA
compliance?
[48:15] » Yeah. to that to that particular field.
>> Well, we did discuss it and what we came
[48:20] up with is because we are not building
something new, we're maintaining what's
[48:25] there
that the uh
[48:32] shaking your head
>> probably not
[48:37] » it's the same scenario as the lake
field. Well, we weren't
[48:41] » probably not make sure we all understand
what you mean by that.
[48:45] » Well, I mean there's different
categories.
[48:51] » That's what I was That's what I'm
getting at. So,
[48:53] » that's where I was
>> like I want to make sure we all we're
[48:56] all on the same page because you were
asking a question. I want make sure that
[49:00] we're all clear when everybody's
listening.
[49:04] » Structural changes, those are going to
be your biggest one that's going to
[49:07] cause it to be triggered.
>> Yeah. replacing chain link. Is that
[49:13] does that trigger it?
>> If the I mean it's just going to
[49:17] replacing chain link is a very broad
term. We're replacing a panel like I
[49:20] mean it's going to be more detailed than
just
[49:22] » I know cuz my concern is that I was told
that if we were to make the lake field a
[49:28] soft like renovate that the moment we
touch it it has to be ADA compliant. So
[49:34] now it doesn't
for Delta like I'm just
[49:38] » the problem with the lake field is that
the structure itself was rusted and
[49:41] rotted and had to been removed. If there
like let's say there's a section of
[49:46] fencing that just needs new um actual
chain link established to the existing
[49:52] posts and everything. That's a different
story than like replacing full dugouts
[49:57] and you know access and access points.
There's a lot more to it, but um it just
[50:02] depends on the scope of work. I haven't
seen it. Okay.
[50:05] » Well, I don't think there's any anything
out there, is there?
[50:08] » It's a back stop.
>> Just a back stop.
[50:13] » Right.
>> So, if you're adding structure that's
[50:16] different, we're not adding the back
stop is there already. Well, if you're
[50:20] adding the the fencing, you're you're
actually So, when you're adding the
[50:23] He'll be able to give you better
clarification, but when you're adding
[50:26] the fencing to it, you're
the way that it talks about is the
[50:31] actual current function of um getting to
and from,
[50:35] » you're changing that. And so, therefore,
it would need to be 88.
[50:38] » So, I don't just mention though that if
it's a practice T-ball field, we don't
[50:42] necessarily need events.
>> Just saying.
[50:45] » Probably I want to make sure I'm
understanding too. When you're talking
[50:48] about the Delta place, you're not saying
you're adding fencing around the whole
[50:52] field. You're just replacing the fence
on the back stop.
[50:55] » That's on the back.
>> So you're on the on the delta field,
[50:59] you're just repairing the fence on
>> the back stop. That's it. You're not
[51:04] adding any other fence. You're not
adding correct
[51:07] » any structures there. You're just
replacing that fence panel.
[51:10] » That's correct. The other question I
have though isn't Delta ADA compliant
[51:14] itself, the building, the school that's
over there or we
[51:18] » not the field.
>> Yeah, I know. But the field is right
[51:21] next to
>> They're not part of the the field.
[51:24] They're not even part
>> our lease with them has nothing to do
[51:27] with the field or anything. I don't
think it there's anything that really
[51:31] connects the two. Yeah, I get where
you're going with that.
[51:35] » It's it's it's all about
>> it's all about if you think of the way
[51:40] Yeah. they park
>> ramps
[51:43] » from their car, walk there. For one, we
can't make someone we can't make them
[51:48] allow us to utilize any of their spaces
that are already um dictated in their
[51:53] lease. Um and then also [clears throat]
there's still no connectivity there. So
[51:58] that's
>> So anyway, I didn't want to spend a lot
[52:01] of time on this. I just [clears throat]
wanted to say keep that part in mind if
[52:06] you guys didn't think of that. So just
real quick go over uh soccer all that
[52:12] different stuff what can be utilized and
what what was better about it.
[52:15] » So the idea was to there there are the
soccer fields that are at Mccuri. We
[52:20] were going to move those to the lake
field where that old softball field was.
[52:27] There's currently a
flag football team that practices there
[52:33] quite often. We feel like the space is
large enough to accommodate both sports
[52:36] in that area. Um so we don't have to
designate the entire area to one sport.
[52:45] Um
build a fence around that area and not
[52:49] be able to utilize it for anything else
ever.
[52:54] So that was the idea behind that.
Yeah, I mean I like the idea. I actually
[53:00] talked to Andy about this before, but
the question came up about but if we
[53:05] work on Delta, does it still need to be
ADA compliant? Because that's what I was
[53:08] told about the lake field. But just as a
suggestion,
[53:13] McCertie Park
would be we okay. So if we have two
[53:18] fields, you could delta is too small for
anything above AU. So when people
[53:24] reserve them, what could also help is
Delta could be reserved for 8U and below
[53:29] and McCertie for 10U and up. That way
the 10U and up teams aren't being
[53:35] blocked out because you have T-ball
teams when there's another field that
[53:38] they could use. You know what I mean? So
I don't know if that's allowed
[53:42] discrimination or something. They do
that at PBSA. They have certain fields
[53:47] that are designated for different age
groups. So just a suggestion. I mean, I
[53:51] wouldn't think that it would be, but I
would
[53:53] » Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't think so
either, but just looking at everything
[53:56] on record,
>> that they're they're still can they can
[54:00] still utilize soccer at Delta, not
Delta, U McCertie Park to where they're
[54:06] they're currently doing it at. Um, that
would just give two other two places for
[54:12] soccer. They would mark the lake field
with the paint, you know, all that stuff
[54:18] to mark it off for for the soccer.
Um,
[54:23] it I think it's really picking up in our
community. The schools already endorsed
[54:28] the
soccer is it junior high and up or is it
[54:33] just high school?
>> High school.
[54:35] » But we've got a lot of adults too that
like to go out different locations in
[54:40] the city to to play also. But I think
it's a great idea to be honest. I mean,
[54:44] if we can get Delta up to par and what
it needs to be dirt so that way it can
[54:48] be used for baseball and softball. I'm
with you. The lake field then you're not
[54:53] taking it from one group of kids and
giving it to someone else. It's open for
[54:57] everyone. I think that's great. And it'd
be even better once the grass is green.
[55:02] » It look really pretty. I know.
>> Next summer. [laughter]
[55:04] » Yeah, maybe.
>> So, their their guesstimation
[55:08] » is $10,000
give or take. um
[55:14] the lake field to to re rehab that just
to be a a practice field I believe was
[55:20] it around $100,000.
>> So it's a it's a large gap. But again,
[55:27] if the $10,000 turns into
a lot more than that, then of course I
[55:34] will come back to council and explain
what's going on and and uh keep
[55:38] everybody in the loop to see if that's
still what we want to continue with.
[55:45] Clint, thank you and thank the board um
the parks and rec board because that is
[55:49] a very good idea, I think, to save not
just the city money, but it allows the
[55:53] fields then to be multi-purpose fields.
And like, um, Terra's already said,
[55:58] that's important that that allows a lot
of other things to happen. And I still
[56:02] think even with the Lakefield, I mean,
if a softball team wanted to go out
[56:05] there, there's still room out there for
them to use that as well.
[56:13] » All right. Appreciate it.
Hold on. I had a couple quick questions
[56:19] on a different subject. Uh, how is the
book library coming at the multi-purpose
[56:25] center?
>> So, the uh
[56:30] the crafter
group was working on that.
[56:35] » Um, I know that it's got the first layer
of paint on it, but I'll as far as when
[56:41] it's finished, I'll I'll have to get
back with you.
[56:44] And uh what would be your and the
chief's thoughts of putting one at the
[56:49] splash pad at Red Hill
and I'll take responsibility for it.
[56:55] » Thoughts on what?
>> Free book library putting it at the
[56:59] splash pad.
>> Oh,
[57:01] » I'll pay for it. Put it up.
>> I don't care where it's at.
[57:06] » Permission to put it there.
I got no problem with that.
[57:13] » You can fill out and
>> because we have one in front of our
[57:17] house and it's very well used. So
>> yeah,
[57:20] » I mean if it's just a donation of like
time and you know we have a donation
[57:23] form that you can fill out for parks and
recreation and that will be um signed
[57:28] off on and
>> we'll take care of the material. Just
[57:30] tell me where you want it and we'll
>> Okay. Thank you.
[57:35] » Clint, one more um question for you. I
know that you guys just started
[57:38] resurfacing the courts, the tennis
courts out there on Wednesday. How's
[57:42] that going?
>> I It's coming along well. I really
[57:45] didn't know what to expect with it. Um
it's taking a longer than I expected to
[57:50] get that first layer,
get that layer off. Um
[57:58] but they are uh I spoke with the the
owner of the company this morning. and
[58:03] they are expected to be finished by the
middle to end of next week.
[58:11] » So,
>> and then last thing I had was the bike
[58:14] race that just occurred in August. How
did that go?
[58:18] » It went really well. There was a a big
turnout with the racers. I think there
[58:22] was a
[58:25] 30
35 racers I think with their families.
[58:31] I think that's right. Um there's a big
turnout. There was a lot of people out
[58:35] there at the lake. It was
went really well. They um Nika was
[58:42] really impressed with the area that we
have, the the location that we have.
[58:46] They're interested in coming back with a
few more events throughout the year. So,
[58:54] good things.
[58:58] » Thank you. Anything else?
>> One more thing. Not just
[59:05] » that that concludes my report.
>> Thank you, sir. Item number nine, uh,
[59:11] discussion and possible action to
approve resolution number 26-C15,
[59:16] a resolution of the city of Purcell
estab establishing minimum purchasing
[59:20] limits in accordance with article 4,
section 3 of the city charter, providing
[59:26] for a repealer, providing for
severability, and an effective date.
[59:32] This would basically give our city
manager the ability to
[59:38] sign checks up to 50.
>> So it wouldn't be signing the checks. Um
[59:43] it would be uh granting the PO the
authority to do the work uh signing
[59:47] contracts. So uh this is something that
is in line with a lot of our um
[59:54] municipalities that are the same size of
us. I mean, the one that is in closest
[59:57] size and relation to us would be in
Newcastle, and theirs is the exact same
[1:00:00] would be would be the exact same amount.
Um, everything is still the same as far
[1:00:05] as the final approval. So, that check is
still there where the city council will
[1:00:09] still be signing the check. It's just
more or less um with the contracts or
[1:00:14] purchases not having to have that 30 day
30-day delay on something that you know
[1:00:20] back whenever our charter was originally
written that was a a ton of money where
[1:00:24] unfortunately now it's not as much and
so things as costs go up so would this
[1:00:30] » right all all the the purchases remain
subject to applicable competit
[1:00:36] competitive bidding um grant
requirements and financial controls.
[1:00:43] » And we can change this again down the
road if we have to
[1:00:46] » change it anytime.
>> Yeah, it just I think the you can't go
[1:00:50] below 7,500 because that's what our
charter says, but everything anything in
[1:00:54] between you could do.
>> Motion that we approve agenda item
[1:00:59] number nine.
>> I'll second a motion to second. Can I
[1:01:02] get a vote?
>> Yes.
[1:01:04] » Phillips.
>> Yes.
[1:01:05] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 10.
[1:01:09] discussion and possible action to
approve a utility relocation agreement
[1:01:13] between Oklahoma Turnpike Authority and
the city of Purcell concerning
[1:01:17] relocation of I35 water tower SE-27607A
[1:01:24] UR number 80 water tower relocation
project
[1:01:40] doesn't want to come up.
[1:01:49] » Yes.
[1:01:53] » No, I don't have anything with you right
now. I'm sorry about that.
[1:01:55] » It's okay. No, you're good. Uh, this is
just going to be the agreement with the
[1:01:59] Oklahoma Turnpike Authority for um them
paying for the relocation of our water
[1:02:03] tower and existing infrastructure that's
um along with it. This is going to be um
[1:02:08] everything excluding the actual purchase
of the land. Um as well as any real
[1:02:12] property that's listed on the land such
as the radio tower.
[1:02:19] » Yeah.
>> Which we're getting to next.
[1:02:22] » Which we're getting to next.
>> All right. I I motion to approve agenda
[1:02:26] item number 10.
>> Second.
[1:02:29] » We have a motion to second. Can I get a
vote, please?
[1:02:32] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:02:33] » Phillips.
>> Yes.
[1:02:35] » Yes. Motion passes. is item number.
>> I apologize. [laughter]
[1:02:40] » Normally I'm ready, but
>> yeah.
[1:02:42] » Well, I told him he could go home early,
so now he's
[1:02:44] » Yeah. know. Yeah. [laughter]
Item number 11, discussion and possible
[1:02:48] action to approve joint resolution
number 26-c13/26-P5,
[1:02:54] a joint resolution of the city of
Purcell and Purcell Public Works
[1:02:58] Authority authorizing the city manager
to approve and execute expenditures for
[1:03:02] the OTAA water tower relocation project
in an amount not to exceed 12,465,300.
[1:03:10] » So, this is a little bit um of what we
just previously talked about. Of course,
[1:03:14] we accepted that contract. We'll be
receiving $12,465,300.
[1:03:19] Um, we have we're awarding those funds
to First United. They'll be the ones
[1:03:23] holding that money while we're doing the
project. We did an RFP. Um, with that
[1:03:27] being said, this also allows the city
manager's purchase um authority for this
[1:03:31] project alone to not be limited um up
into 12,465,300.
[1:03:39] meaning that this is going to be a
project that we're going to be working
[1:03:41] on at um a fast pace and so days matter.
We have to have this fully completed um
[1:03:48] by January of 2028. And so with that
being said, this does two things. Of
[1:03:54] course, accepting the funds, but then
also allowing the city manager to um
[1:03:58] have that p that purchasing authority
for this project.
[1:04:06] » Make a motion to approve agenda item 11
as written. I'll second.
[1:04:10] » We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
vote, please?
[1:04:12] » Yes.
>> Phillips.
[1:04:14] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:04:16] » Yes. Motion passes. Item number 12.
>> Good.
[1:04:19] » Thank you.
>> Good job.
[1:04:20] » Good job, Marcos.
>> Don't get comfortable. You're coming
[1:04:25] back up here in a second.
>> So, um, similar to 11, this is going to
[1:04:29] be 12. This is going to be
>> Hold on. I got to read it first. I
[1:04:31] thought
>> I don't mean to interrupt you. Sorry.
[1:04:34] Number 12, discussion and possible
action to approve resolution 26-C14A,
[1:04:39] resolution of the city of Purcell,
authorizing the city manager to approve
[1:04:43] and execute expenditures for the 2026
hangar construction project related to
[1:04:48] the Purcell municipal airport in an
amount not to exceed 910,000 and
[1:04:53] providing for an effective date.
>> This is going to be the exact same as I
[1:04:58] said before. This is a project that you
guys have already approved. This just
[1:05:01] gives the city manager the ability to um
approve for all things that have to do
[1:05:06] with this project up to the amount of
the project. This is going to be
[1:05:09] something that we're going to do
regularly. Um you hopefully next time
[1:05:12] it'll be like the first one where
everything's on the same agenda so you
[1:05:16] know what we're what exactly it's
referencing. Um but again because you're
[1:05:19] approving the project all things that
have to do with the project go along
[1:05:23] with it.
>> I motion that we approve agenda agenda
[1:05:27] item number 12.
>> Second. We have a motion, a second. Can
[1:05:31] I get a vote?
>> Yes.
[1:05:33] » Yes.
>> Phillips.
[1:05:34] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 13,
[1:05:37] discussion and possible action to
approve pre-consil meetings and set
[1:05:41] formal date and time of pre-consil
meetings.
[1:05:45] » Councilman Demer, this was your idea, so
I'll let you speak.
[1:05:50] My idea behind this um came when I went
to the meeting um for people that were
[1:05:56] elected as municipal officials that
other cities are doing the same thing.
[1:06:00] They meet a week before the city council
meeting. They meet in a informal
[1:06:06] setting. They sit down and that way they
can actually discuss the agenda ahead of
[1:06:11] time. Um, in a lot of cases for us, we
get the agenda ahead of time and we can
[1:06:15] go see Andy um, one in one or with two
people. This would give us the ability
[1:06:21] to actually sit down as a group and sit
down and discuss items and brainstorm
[1:06:26] ideas before we ever got here, which I
think is a great idea because I think
[1:06:31] when you get up in front of people, I
think sometimes people tend to react a
[1:06:35] little bit differently and not have a
lot of thought process behind some of
[1:06:39] the things that they're going to do or
say at that time. So, it would give us
[1:06:42] some preparation beforehand. It also let
us have meaningful conversations um that
[1:06:48] we probably would not have otherwise.
And my idea would be is do it on a
[1:06:53] Wednesday or Thursday the week before um
we were going to have that like at a
[1:06:58] lunchtime or something like that. So
people that could make it could be
[1:07:02] there.
[1:07:06] » Just some context on the meeting to
provide some clarifying points. Um, even
[1:07:11] though it would be informal to the
council, it would still be susceptible
[1:07:14] to the Open Meetings Act. Um, it would
still be open to the public. Um, agendas
[1:07:20] would still be needed, minutes would
still need to be recorded. Um, so it
[1:07:24] would still have to comply with all of
those points for the meeting to be able
[1:07:28] to exist. So,
>> I actually put a lot of thought into
[1:07:32] this one, so I had to type out a bunch
of stuff. So, I'm just going to read it.
[1:07:36] I did my pros and cons because I'll be
honest, when I first started doing this
[1:07:40] a year ago, that was also my thought,
but I've learned a lot since then. And
[1:07:46] my the pro what is definitely I'm just
going to read exactly what I have on
[1:07:50] here. Discuss openly with each other so
we can hear each other's thoughts on
[1:07:54] certain matters. And you're right, and
have good conversation to go back and
[1:07:57] forth. However, the cons that I have
thought really hard on are the
[1:08:02] following. We [snorts] have it's another
appointment on an already busy schedule.
[1:08:07] I don't know that I could add another
meeting to have a meeting about this
[1:08:14] meeting. You know what I mean? Um so
basically it goes into my second thing.
[1:08:19] It would be redundant since we would
only be able to talk about and go over
[1:08:22] what is on that agenda at the live
meetings. So which leads into the other
[1:08:26] thing then the live meetings we wouldn't
have anything to discuss because we've
[1:08:29] already talked about it. Um, but my
biggest thing on this is I don't like
[1:08:36] the idea of any type of perception that
we as council are trying to hide
[1:08:41] information. And yes, while it might be
an open meeting, it still could give
[1:08:45] that perception. So for me, I would
never want the public to think that
[1:08:50] we're having quote unquote secret
meetings, even though it's open. I
[1:08:55] understand that, but a lot of people
probably would not understand that. Um,
[1:09:01] and for me, I meet with Andy, when Bobby
I mean, I take that that's our
[1:09:08] responsibility. We should all be doing
that anyway when we go over the agenda.
[1:09:13] Um, last week it was
uh Jay, myself, Andy, Wyn, and Bobby.
[1:09:21] And honestly, that was beneficial. Um,
and I think that if we did something
[1:09:26] like that and we just rotate it, it
doesn't need to be the same two people
[1:09:30] each week that does that and then after
that you can call and have your
[1:09:35] conversations. I mean, so that's kind of
my stance on it.
[1:09:39] » Andy, you have a this is going to
directly affect you. So if you would
[1:09:46] like to speak
[1:09:49] [laughter]
>> that was Jay.
[1:09:51] » There's your sign.
Now, it will be um I I talked to Chris
[1:09:57] about it. Um
[1:10:01] it is subject to the Open Meetings Act.
It will be a it'll be a totally separate
[1:10:06] agenda because it's not a actionable
agenda. So, it's going to be a
[1:10:11] completely different agenda than what
I'm preparing for the actual meeting
[1:10:15] a week ahead of time. I don't know if
you noticed the
[1:10:19] drastic changes from the agenda that you
get on Monday to the agenda that you get
[1:10:24] on Friday, but most of the stuff comes
in in that that week. Um,
[1:10:31] so there now if there are big things you
want to discuss, I mean, we can always
[1:10:35] do if there is something big on, you
know, a big agenda item that we need to
[1:10:38] discuss, we can always do a special
meeting,
[1:10:41] » you know, and have a have a what do you
call that?
[1:10:46] » Yeah.
special meeting.
[1:10:48] » It's a special meeting, but there's a
word for it. I'm having a brain space.
[1:10:52] But
>> that's exactly what I was going to say.
[1:10:54] We could do it on a case by case
[clears throat] basis. So, if we have
[1:10:56] something of larger scale coming up that
sometimes it would be nice to be able to
[1:11:03] go to the co local coffee shop and talk
amongst ourselves, but I know we can't
[1:11:08] legally do it that way. I know we've
done we've done some for the water
[1:11:13] department when they were trying to get
the capital improvement plan for the
[1:11:16] water department and all of the things.
We had a special meeting just for that
[1:11:19] and it was an open disc I mean we had an
agenda but we had an open discussion
[1:11:22] about that particular item. So big items
like that you can work session is what
[1:11:27] they called it.
>> I can totally understand what Councilman
[1:11:30] Demerest is saying. You know, there are
so many hard topics and agenda items
[1:11:37] that come before us on a regular basis
and it you've got to try your best to
[1:11:40] get your arms around it and study it as
much as you can. And so I I appreciate
[1:11:46] the the thought behind what Councilman
Dimmer is saying. I also know too, I can
[1:11:53] see what um
you
[1:11:56] » call me Terara.
>> Tara
[1:11:58] is saying as well. Well, I'm trying to
be professional, but
[1:12:01] » um but personally, I think I do my best
as all the other council members to to
[1:12:08] study the agenda, study the topics,
everything that's coming before us. I
[1:12:12] try to look at it and study it as much
as I can. If I have questions, I do go
[1:12:16] up and talk to Andy or our city to get
clarifications about things in that
[1:12:22] process. Um, and even then, this is an
open meeting where anybody in the
[1:12:27] public, the the agendas are posted.
Anybody in the public can come and hear
[1:12:32] what we're talking about here and give
their opinion in a council meeting. Not
[1:12:37] very many people do that, but they're
able to do that. So, um, I appreciate
[1:12:42] the the thought, um, Adam. Uh but
personally I personally feel like you
[1:12:48] know we are doing what we're doing now
in a sufficient and efficient way. Um
[1:12:54] that's just my two cents. So
one thing I would like to add is that I
[1:13:00] think my view of looking at things is a
lot from being on teams running teams
[1:13:07] and being on effective boards. And I do
know that when you are working with any
[1:13:12] type of board or any type of group, if
you don't come together and you don't
[1:13:16] meet together and you don't go over
things together, there's always going to
[1:13:20] be things that slip through. And when
you look at some of the meetings even
[1:13:23] that we've had in the past where we're
asking questions that I think if we had
[1:13:27] been together beforehand, we would have
had a better pattern. We wouldn't be
[1:13:31] asking redundant questions. We'd be able
to do that. I do understand what um you
[1:13:36] know, Congresswoman Phillips is saying
and Congressman Wheat and and stuff and
[1:13:41] I and I definitely understand where
Andy's coming from too because it does
[1:13:44] put a lot on her her plate. I'm just
saying that's just from my perspective
[1:13:48] and my experience when I look at things
that just like for example coming up the
[1:13:53] hospital board's going to have a
strategic planning meeting. There's a
[1:13:56] reason why they meet together to go over
things that even though you have an
[1:14:00] agenda, even though you have it ahead
ahead of time, but it was a suggestion
[1:14:04] that, like I said, I came up with when I
went to that meeting, too, because I
[1:14:07] know there's other cities that are doing
that currently to try and address some
[1:14:11] of the issues that they find.
>> Maybe we need a charter change,
[1:14:16] something to look into. You know what I
mean?
[1:14:19] » But I I can understand where you're
coming from completely. sec. I mean, it
[1:14:23] it's almost worth evaluating before
doing that, having a second full
[1:14:29] meeting. Some cities do two meetings a
month. Um, it would condense down the
[1:14:34] information that you need to consume,
but I'm just saying if you're going to
[1:14:37] evaluate having a premeating to be able
to con to digest all the information, it
[1:14:42] might just be worth it to have that
middle meeting that some cities do have.
[1:14:46] Um, but again, I'm not I'm not
suggesting that either. Um it's it's the
[1:14:51] same amount of it's the same amount of
workload, but I'm just saying, you know,
[1:14:54] it if it's hard because yes, it's a lot
of information to digest, but you know,
[1:14:59] we're available if anybody needs any
type of additional information or wants
[1:15:03] to talk something out um to to be there
to help. Let me just
[1:15:16] [laughter]
>> if you specifically want a specific time
[1:15:20] that you want to meet like uh Jay and
one other person usually comes in at
[1:15:25] Wednesday at 8 o'clock. We can always
schedule a time if you if you prefer to
[1:15:30] have a schedule
>> and then
[1:15:32] » and I'm usually there the Friday before
that. So if you ever want to join me,
[1:15:35] feel free. But also, anytime any of the
councilmen want to call and discuss
[1:15:41] something with me, my phone is I if I
don't answer, I'm subbing, but I will
[1:15:46] call you back.
>> What is that phone number? [laughter]
[1:15:52] » I don't mine out of a loudspeaker
football game, so I don't mind.
[1:15:58] » But, uh,
that's a good idea. I mean, if you want
[1:16:02] to come to the What's the date? The 5th
would be the 4th. Third be the 30th.
[1:16:10] » Am I looking at that right?
>> Before the meeting.
[1:16:13] » Yeah.
If you want to come to the 30th, you
[1:16:18] can.
>> I already meet with Andy. That wasn't
[1:16:21] the point. Was what I, like I said, Andy
and uh Win and Bobby have always been
[1:16:27] more than nice enough to meet at that
time. It wasn't the point of not being
[1:16:31] able to meet with them or being able to
call one of you at a time. It was the
[1:16:35] point about bringing everybody together
to discuss it.
[1:16:45] » [laughter]
[1:16:51] » Well, and and I get that. And
everybody's we do this for free and
[1:16:56] everybody's got life and family and
other obligations. So, it's just hard to
[1:17:03] get the train on the same all the train
on the same tracks at the same time.
[1:17:12] Wait,
what did you start out with?
[1:17:16] » You told her she was right. So now here
we go.
[1:17:19] » Everything Councilwoman Phillips says is
always correct.
[1:17:24] » You all on record.
>> Yes. particularly having a rotating um
[1:17:29] couple of council members meeting
together with city staff to go over
[1:17:34] items, answer questions, and like you
said, you guys can have individual phone
[1:17:38] calls between one another so long as
you're not using that to usurp the open
[1:17:42] meetings act. And also, just like you
treat um budget time, you'll have we
[1:17:47] have pre meetings. Until then, I think
that's a great idea, especially if we're
[1:17:52] looking at bonding or anything that's
going to go to a vote of the people. I
[1:17:55] think you can do it case by case.
[1:18:04] » Do I have an or is there no action
taken?
[1:18:09] » So no action taken. Is
that correct council?
[1:18:15] I want to recess this meeting. We're
going to go open the Purcell public
[1:18:20] works meeting.
Call to order. We have a quorum. Can I
[1:18:24] get a roll call, please?
>> Here
[1:18:32] » item number three, approval of the
consent agenda.
[1:18:40] I'll make a motion to approve agenda
item three is written.
[1:18:44] » I'll second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a
[1:18:47] vote?
>> Yes.
[1:18:49] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:18:52] » Yes. Motion passes. Item number five,
discussion and possible action to
[1:18:56] approve reimbursement of electric
utility rebate to Maze Properties LLC in
[1:19:01] the sum of $9,76356
[1:19:06] for the following. A lot 2, block one,
Cliff's fifth edition, $4,881.78
[1:19:13] and B, lot four, block one, Cliff's
fifth edition, $4,881.78.
[1:19:23] So these are reimbursements that um they
receive when establishing utilities when
[1:19:29] they're turning on utilities. The only
problem with these are that they are
[1:19:34] severely past due. The time period in
which they had to claim these has passed
[1:19:39] by about seven years. Uh 2019 was when
they were due to be turned on. Um,
[1:19:47] from my understanding, they were told to
still present them and council can
[1:19:51] approve or deny them as they come. Um,
with that being said, I think it sets a
[1:19:59] bad precedent going forward with current
developments that we have going on. I
[1:20:04] mean, take our neighbors up north. You
know, they have more neighborhoods being
[1:20:09] developed than you can actually count.
Um, and so it just sets that precedent
[1:20:13] that even though we established these
timelines and these deadlines, they're
[1:20:17] not real. And so it's just something
that we need to think about. It doesn't
[1:20:21] matter to me whose name is on the the
voucher. It's nothing to do with that.
[1:20:25] It's just strictly the timeline and the
date that we're we're talking about. It
[1:20:29] was it was written on their vouchers
their specific date to be done by and
[1:20:34] we're now, you know, seven years past
that. So
[1:20:37] » did was there an explanation? How did
this even come up? who read shouldn't
[1:20:41] say red flagged it, who brought it to
our attention, that type of thing.
[1:20:43] » So, it's it's not necessarily of like um
how it came up. We've known about this.
[1:20:49] Um there's about six more of these
outstanding that are old. Um this was
[1:20:54] they're just brought to us as they come.
This is the first time they've come
[1:20:57] since I've been here that I'm aware of
um to be able to have this conversation
[1:21:01] with you guys, but prior it's they've
they've been um accepted. Has a
[1:21:05] conversation been had with this specific
company letting them know that hey these
[1:21:10] vouchers are expired?
>> Um I have not personally spoken with
[1:21:15] them but I know they're aware that the
vouchers are expired.
[1:21:18] » It looks like the last time it was
>> it looks like the last time it was
[1:21:23] discussed and this is information that
um the city clerk and I were talking
[1:21:27] about in an open meeting where I guess
2020 or 2021 that was the last time that
[1:21:33] they were presented.
[1:21:36] Okay.
So it was discussed at that time
[1:21:39] whenever they were, you know, a couple
one or two years expired
[1:21:43] and we were trying to review minutes to
see exactly how that conversation
[1:21:50] transpired. But it sounds like at least
as to the as to the ones that were being
[1:21:55] presented at that time, the council
determined that it was in the best
[1:22:00] interest of the city, I suppose, to
allow them to go through.
[1:22:10] But those were two years expired.
>> Yeah. Three years expired at the latest.
[1:22:15] And we're also talking about unbudgeted
funds. These are funds that are not
[1:22:19] budgeted for. Um we don't have just a
bucket for these types of things because
[1:22:25] the vouchers are issued. We know how
many of the vouchers are issued and the
[1:22:28] amounts that the vouchers are for. Um
and so it it does negatively impact us.
[1:22:35] Um on a budget aspect as well because
this was something that happened in
[1:22:39] 2019.
[1:22:44] » Yes.
>> There's no reason for us to continue to
[1:22:46] budget that money.
>> So when in normal cases the money would
[1:22:51] be budgeted up to 2019 and then at that
point the money would be put into other
[1:22:56] things because it's expired. The other
concern I would have is are we saying
[1:23:01] that there's at least six others or is
there even potentially more that are
[1:23:05] expired um that we're talking about?
>> Okay. So, how many are we talking about
[1:23:10] that haven't been claimed?
There's six additional.
[1:23:15] » Yeah, because I I think when I talked to
you, I wanted to say we came up with
[1:23:19] between 20 and 25
um when I was looking at just numbers
[1:23:23] because I think that's also important to
note that if we're going to take into
[1:23:26] account that we're going to approve
these and you also have to take into
[1:23:30] account if there's let's say there's 10
more that that amount of money would
[1:23:34] need to be approved for those people
too. And with it being seven years past,
[1:23:38] I do think that that's a that's a long
time. It's not a couple days. It's not a
[1:23:42] year. That's a long time.
>> This Go ahead. Now I'm the one
[1:23:46] interrupting. Sorry. [laughter]
>> Didn't we just have this discussion last
[1:23:51] month
being reimbured?
[1:23:56] » Williams edition.
>> No, it was a similar conversation, but
[1:23:59] it wasn't the same type same
conversation. There was no agreement
[1:24:02] prior. This was an agreement that we had
with them. They didn't. So neither side
[1:24:09] fulfilled like neither side didn't meet
their their obligations of the
[1:24:13] agreement. It was just the time deadline
that is now. So that's that's my problem
[1:24:19] with it is that you're bringing
something think about like taking an
[1:24:22] expired check to the bank. You bring a
seven-year-old check. It just doesn't
[1:24:25] work
>> right. And this might be rhetorical, but
[1:24:29] » if they know that they're expired, why
are they submitting them when they're
[1:24:34] expired?
>> Um, to be quite frank, because they've
[1:24:38] gotten they've gotten paid on them
before.
[1:24:41] So like, you know, why would you not
try?
[1:24:43] » Is this money that the city owes them
though? Like did was this
[1:24:47] » contractually? No.
>> Yeah. I think the way the code is
[1:24:50] written, they become null and void. So
they be kind of become uninforceable by
[1:24:54] the developer. There is a subsection in
the part of the code that gives the
[1:24:59] council authority to deviate or modify.
So I'm just trying to make my sure my
[1:25:05] arms around it. There's been no
discussion
[1:25:08] on their part right to hey oh we just we
found out that we were seven years past
[1:25:15] due. I mean what how did this all of a
sudden come up? I guess and maybe you
[1:25:17] already said that
>> council and past city manager
[1:25:21] » had a
sorry past council past city manager had
[1:25:26] discussions with um Mr. Mays and they
agreed to let him present them to
[1:25:32] council and do it on a case- by case
basis.
[1:25:36] » Is your question why it's been brought
up tonight?
[1:25:40] I'm just asking why is it why is it just
now coming up if it's so many years
[1:25:46] » because two more homes have been built
and that's what I'm trying to figure out
[1:25:49] what what all of a sudden brought this
up to to to do this vouchers they're
[1:25:54] trying to turn
>> two vouchers that they're trying to get
[1:25:56] reimbured for that they finally have
homes on that are hooked up to
[1:25:59] electricity
>> at the same time then I get that point
[1:26:01] if if it's if those lots have been
sitting vacant for all these years and
[1:26:06] not able to be sold
Now they're saying they're sold and
[1:26:12] » I don't think that's probably the case.
Nobody's going to let their let
[1:26:18] that long.
>> No, the house was not there. So it's a
[1:26:20] vacant lot.
>> It's a new build. They were not
[1:26:22] » say it has to be new build,
>> right? Well, that's what I'm saying. So
[1:26:26] in essence, I mean, there was no need at
that point if I'm understanding
[1:26:30] correctly to turn in a voucher because
there was nothing done there. would not
[1:26:34] we would not do a re.
>> So the whole point the the whole point
[1:26:38] of it being written in the code the way
that it is is to both in to incentivize
[1:26:42] development but it's also to incentivize
expedited development. We don't want
[1:26:46] someone who's going to come in and you
know frankly do kind of like this and
[1:26:51] develop over a you know 20 year
timeline.
[1:26:55] It's supposed to be reimbursement for
the infrastructure that's put in place
[1:26:59] um for those homes. And that's why once
the home is connected to our utility
[1:27:02] system that their reimbursements are
processed. Um with that being said,
[1:27:07] these two that we are talking about
right now, their new homes where this
[1:27:12] the utility services are just now being
turned on and this is something this
[1:27:16] infrastructure that we're now paying for
has been in the ground to prior to 2019.
[1:27:25] I think
>> they have had an opportunity at all
[1:27:28] before they expired to maybe communicate
with the city that hey, we need a new
[1:27:33] » um contract made or was that just
>> they should have done an extension if
[1:27:38] they were going to do it
>> and they failed to do that. Okay, got
[1:27:41] it.
>> I agree with Win. I think we're setting
[1:27:43] a dangerous precedent.
>> So,
[1:28:01] I motion that we do not approve agenda
item number five.
[1:28:04] » I second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Can I get
[1:28:07] a vote?
[1:28:20] » Okay. I motion to deny the uh
reimbursements on agenda item number
[1:28:25] five.
>> Second.
[1:28:27] » We have a amended motion. Can we get a
vote?
[1:28:32] » Yes.
>> Phillips.
[1:28:33] » Yes.
>> Can I abstain?
[1:28:35] » Yes. It counts as a no in Oklahoma.
>> Okay. Just be aware.
[1:28:41] » I uh vote yes to deny. Motion fails.
Correct.
[1:28:49] » Three. 3 to one.
>> Motion passes.
[1:28:53] » Motion passes. Do not pay. Okay. I This
doesn't happen very often, so
[1:28:59] Okay. So, I can move on. Correct.
[sighs]
[1:29:03] Agenda item number six, discussion and
possible action to approve services and
[1:29:07] supplies from Hoffman Water Wells LLC
for well number four not to exceed
[1:29:12] $65,64610
[1:29:16] as follows. A 20,500 for removal and
inspection
[1:29:22] testing and $45,14610
[1:29:27] for new equipment install. I'm prepared
for this one. I swear it's the same same
[1:29:33] thing happened last time with the other
weld. We're going to do the same thing
[1:29:35] with this one. Um it's up to that point,
but it probably won't cost that much
[1:29:39] because we're going to pull and see and
I guarantee it's same issue we had last
[1:29:42] time. So they'll probably have to
replace the pump. I don't know yet, but
[1:29:45] that's probably what's going to happen.
and no more tape. That's been said
[1:29:48] several times to these people. So that's
what's going on with the same thing.
[1:29:51] Same well, same situation, same
everything.
[1:29:53] » So
only got one more left. One more well
[1:29:58] left to actually bring up and that's the
last one. Everything else is good.
[1:30:02] » Okay.
>> So
[1:30:04] » So are we in budget when it comes to
this? Is it all covered? We have
[1:30:11] [laughter]
>> So,
[1:30:14] » as Bobby kind of hinted at earlier, um
some additional contracts have come to
[1:30:18] light for the I um
what's the interstate? Sorry.
[1:30:24] » I35. I almost said I40. That's not the
case. Um the I35
[1:30:28] um engineering cost. And so I relied on
some information that was provided to me
[1:30:33] for budgeting for that this year. um
that it just doesn't doesn't seem to be
[1:30:39] as accurate as I thought. And so we are
looking at um presenting next meeting
[1:30:44] some
restructuring of our capital improvement
[1:30:47] projects. Um with that being said, this
is covered by funds that are not
[1:30:54] even something that we could touch other
than water projects though. So, our bond
[1:30:58] that we have outstanding $740,000ish,
um we can only use it for water projects
[1:31:05] and so this would therefore fall
underneath that to be utilized. So, it's
[1:31:08] it's not the same funds.
[1:31:15] » A motion that we pass agenda item number
six.
[1:31:17] » A second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
[1:31:20] vote?
>> Yes.
[1:31:22] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:31:24] » Yes. Motion passes.
>> Awesome. Thank you. How did he get out
[1:31:27] of his public works report?
[1:31:32] [snorts and laughter]
[1:31:34] » We can't do it. It's not on there. But I
just caught that.
[1:31:38] » Oh, you know what? You didn't buy what?
I'm not on there. [laughter]
[1:31:45] » You can comment. Okay.
>> Let me do my letter now. later.
[1:31:49] [laughter]
Item number seven, uh, discussion and
[1:31:53] possible action to approve joint
resolution number 26-C13-26-P5,
[1:31:59] a joint resolution of the city of
Purcell and the Purcell Public Works
[1:32:02] Authority authorizing the city manager
to approve and execute expenditures for
[1:32:06] the OTAA water tower relocation project
in an amount not to exceed 12,465
[1:32:12] thou 12,465,300,
[1:32:16] which is the same thing we did on the
city council side.
[1:32:20] Yes. Exact same thing as before. We're
just
[1:32:22] » make a motion to approve agenda item
seven as written.
[1:32:25] » I second.
>> We have a motion to second. Can I get a
[1:32:27] vote?
>> Yes.
[1:32:29] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:32:30] » Yes. Motion passes. Number eight.
Discussion and possible action to
[1:32:34] approve signing the agreement with Glenn
Sullivan and Associates to provide
[1:32:37] surveying, geotechnical study,
engineering, and inspection for the OTAA
[1:32:42] I35 water tower project in the sum of
768,000.
[1:32:47] 100,000 for topographic survey and
utility line located services. 668,000
[1:32:54] for engineering and design.
>> Start real quick.
[1:32:57] » Do we need to edit that?
>> Chris,
[1:33:00] » would this one not be redundant? Would
the other one
[1:33:03] » with with
Yeah, with seven. Would that not make
[1:33:09] this eight and nine redundant? Because
Bobby has the
[1:33:17] Go ahead.
[laughter]
[1:33:21] » Uh this is for the as it says all the
surveying preparing the legal
[1:33:27] descriptions and the design of up to
about six miles of water line. Uh also a
[1:33:35] new site uh and site plan for the new
water tower.
[1:33:40] um everything that goes with it
coordinating with right-of-way
[1:33:44] acquisition. It does not include the
actual right-of-way acquisition. That's
[1:33:49] under item nine. Uh there was a cost
estimate at the very end of the
[1:33:54] agreement that has been uh vetted and
approved by OTAA.
[1:34:00] Uh so they are on board with all of
this. We will be subbing out uh
[1:34:05] surveying to uh Pinnacle who's done most
of our surveying uh within PCEL projects
[1:34:13] in the past. So you know is there any
questions? We're this thing is this
[1:34:18] thing is is a hot timeline. We're going
to have five, six people full-time on it
[1:34:24] for a long time to get this completed.
And it's our goal to go to DEEQ
[1:34:32] as soon as possible.
Just this may not be the right place to
[1:34:36] ask the question, but
there's numerous people asking, is this
[1:34:42] going to affect water pressure on this
side of town if we're moving this tank
[1:34:46] somewhere else further?
>> No.
[1:34:48] » So, and that was And can you explain
that? So anybody listening can maybe
[1:34:52] understand the concept because I every
everybody I talked to are talking uh the
[1:34:58] water tower we're moving supplies
pressure to the north part of town
[1:35:03] basically the hospital and further north
and then all the way out past the ODOT
[1:35:08] building uh out through there. We're
moving the tower but we're going to keep
[1:35:14] it at the same elevation. That's why we
have to move it a ways. We do not have a
[1:35:18] site picked yet. Um, we will be picking
a site, but it has to be comparable
[1:35:23] elevation. That's what drives your
pressure. How tall that tower is and
[1:35:28] where the water is in that tower. It
will not affect pressure.
[1:35:32] » So, regardless of it's moved several
miles away, the pressure is not going to
[1:35:37] be affected. pressure is not going to
because with this if it's moved too far
[1:35:42] and there could be fire flows that
affect some pressure, we will be
[1:35:46] upgrading the pump station on Grant
Street to offset that if that occurs.
[1:35:54] Again, until we get a final site, we
won't know the hydraulics, which is part
[1:35:59] of this project. Get the hydraulics, get
it all submitted to DEEQ for their
[1:36:04] approval.
[1:36:07] » Thanks. I have a question for our
attorney. Can you look at the 668,000
[1:36:12] on the agenda? Is that going to be a
problem since there's one zero missing?
[1:36:22] » Do we need to do
>> clarify it on the record? [snorts] It's
[1:36:26] » I want to clarify.
>> It's not even really a number because of
[1:36:28] where the commas are.
I just want to clarify for the minutes
[1:36:33] that the 600 it should be $668,000.
There should be an extra zero on there
[1:36:39] on agenda item number eight.
>> I don't
[1:36:43] » I should have caught that. I'm sorry.
>> Please don't write the check that way.
[1:36:49] » Yeah. And these funds are coming
directly from the 12 million. Um these
[1:36:53] are again are we we're receiving we're
expected to receive the funds within 45
[1:36:57] days of signing of the contract and then
as soon as we receive the funds we'll be
[1:37:00] able to issue out these payments. So, we
don't know for sure yet where that water
[1:37:06] tower is going to be moved because my
assumption or what I thought
[1:37:11] » this is about his contract.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[1:37:23] » It's not It wasn't the contractors where
it's going to be located.
[1:37:29] We'll get to that.
[1:37:34] » So, we need a motion. I'll make a motion
to accept agenda item eight is written.
[1:37:37] » I'll second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
[1:37:40] vote, please?
>> Yes.
[1:37:42] » Phillips.
>> Yes.
[1:37:43] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. Item number nine,
[1:37:46] discussion of possible action to hire
Pinnacle Consulting Management Group,
[1:37:50] Inc. for right-of-way and easement
acquisition associated with the
[1:37:53] relocating the I35 water storage
facility associated with the new OTAA
[1:37:59] interchange.
This is uh an approved vendor as far as
[1:38:04] OTAA is concerned. We are utilizing
their survey division to do the survey
[1:38:11] for the project. So, it really only made
sense to allow their right-of-way
[1:38:16] acquisition, who's right across the
hall, to do the right-of-way
[1:38:20] acquisition. It's going to speed up the
process, not having a third company
[1:38:24] involved in the thing. So, I I ran it by
OTAA. Are you okay with it? OTAA was
[1:38:30] fine with us with us uh recommending
Pinnacle.
[1:38:34] » And the reason that it's open-ended is
because the specifics, how many need to
[1:38:39] be acquired and or there's different
different ways that each different
[1:38:45] acquisition has to be priced and
calculated. We won't know those numbers
[1:38:48] until more definitive like timeline of
where and um
[1:38:53] just how it's going to be done.
>> We get a final alignment. We'll get a
[1:38:56] final parcel count and then we can bring
back to you a formal contract with with
[1:39:02] the amount that will be charged,
>> which we won't have to do because Bobby
[1:39:04] can just approve it. But um yes, so
we'll be able to just Bobby will just be
[1:39:07] able to move move through those as they
come in to expedite that process.
[1:39:15] I move that we approve agend item agenda
item number nine.
[1:39:21] » We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
vote?
[1:39:23] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:39:26] » Yes. Motion passes. I want to recess
this meeting. Call the order the PCEL
[1:39:32] economic development authority. We have
a quorum. Can I get a roll call?
[1:39:36] » Here.
[1:39:41] Item number three, approval of the
consent agenda.
[1:39:45] » I'll make a motion to approve. Agenda
item three is written.
[1:39:47] » Second.
>> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a
[1:39:49] vote?
>> Yes.
[1:39:51] » Phillips.
>> Yes.
[1:39:53] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. I want to adjourn
[1:39:56] this meeting and then I want to call a
joint session between the Purcell City
[1:40:01] Council regular meeting and the Purcell
public works
[1:40:05] meeting. And if I can get my fingers to
work.
[1:40:09] Item number 14, executive session
discussion and consideration to enter
[1:40:14] executive session to be held in
accordance with 25os 307 subsection B1
[1:40:19] and 3. A discussing the employment,
hiring, appointment, promotion,
[1:40:23] demotion, disciplining or resignation of
any individual salaried public officer
[1:40:27] or employee discuss B discussing the
sale, purchase, lease, acquisition or
[1:40:33] appraisal of real property by the public
body.
[1:40:37] I'll make a motion to go into executive
session with city council, our attorney,
[1:40:41] city manager, city treasurer Marcos
Castillo, and Kenny Sullivan.
[1:40:51] » I second it.
>> Motion, a second.
[1:40:54] » I got a vote.
>> Yes.
[1:40:56] » Yes.
>> Yes. Motion passes. We are now in
[1:40:59] executive session at 7:32.
[1:41:23] I just want to make sure
[2:33:00] We need a motion to come out.
>> I'll make a motion to come out of
[2:33:04] executive session.
>> Second.
[2:33:07] » Have a motion.
>> Second. Can I get a vote?
[2:33:09] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[2:33:11] » Yes. Yes.
>> No action taken. So, we're going to go
[2:33:16] to item number 16 down there on the end.
Council Dennis, you're up.
[2:33:24] » Oh, okay. I do want to thank again all
the city workers and stuff. I know
[2:33:28] they've been out diligently working out
in the heat and stuff with a lot of
[2:33:32] different things, whether it's from the
water department. I've also seen them
[2:33:35] down Green Avenue working on the
landscaping and things there. Um, I do
[2:33:39] also want to thank the Purcell Parks and
Wreck for their due diligence and the
[2:33:44] stuff that they've been doing, keeping
the lawnmowing up out at the lake. The
[2:33:47] lake looks really nice. um the courts
out there being redone for the first
[2:33:52] time in several years. And uh I also
want to thank Andy and again Wyn and
[2:33:58] Bobby for meeting with me separately to
go through the agendas and stuff. And
[2:34:02] again thank all of our city council
members as well. Um the city is, you
[2:34:08] know, not one person, it's a group of
people all working together and I think
[2:34:12] we do a good job of that. And Chris, I
thank you for your due diligence on the
[2:34:16] stuff, especially legally that we're not
sure about sometimes. Um, and you're
[2:34:21] always there to help as well. So, thank
you guys.
[2:34:27] » I have nothing. Thank you.
>> No comment.
[2:34:31] » Chris,
[2:34:41] I think
[2:34:46] But there are some neighborhoods. I was
just thinking about this first.
[2:35:29] Sorry. I interrupted.
[2:35:35] » I don't have anything. Maros, it's your
time to shine.
[2:35:42] » Only thing I ever comment about
already been built.
[2:35:46] » Okay.
>> And they're going to move that in a
[2:35:47] couple weeks. So that'll be done.
>> You didn't call me. I want to put my
[2:35:50] initials in the
>> And under budget.
[2:35:54] » Hey, that's good.
>> When?
[2:35:59] » Thank you guys. Look forward to many
more.
[2:36:03] » Hopefully a long time. You go. I go.
I'm good.
[2:36:10] » My only comment is these. This is I need
you to put your chief hat on.
[2:36:17] » Are these electric bikes that the kids
are riding around legal?
[2:36:25] » Well,
yes and no, depending on
[2:36:30] where they're at. I mean, if they're on
a state highway or something like that
[2:36:34] and they
>> still can't be blown through stop signs
[2:36:37] and
>> Well, that's my concern.
[2:36:40] » I got one the other night because he ran
stop sign.
[2:36:46] » Yeah, we've been getting looking at some
of the calls. We looks like we've been
[2:36:50] getting complaints on a certain little
group of kids doing
[2:36:54] riding those little electric bikes and
scooters or whatever. Can the police
[2:37:00] department just put out a public service
announcement that they're subject to the
[2:37:05] rules of the road? I don't know that
help or not. Just got to educate the
[2:37:08] parents or I don't know.
>> I'll talk to some of the officers to see
[2:37:12] who they've contacted and have already
talked with. See where we're are with
[2:37:16] that.
[2:37:19] » Anyway, that is
>> Yes. Thank you. And
[2:37:24] » ask the chief next month. The new chief.
[laughter]
[2:37:30] You will always be chief to me.
Uh, without anything else, I
[2:37:36] we're done and I'm out of