1 00:00:09,955 --> 00:00:11,805 Alright, we're gonna bring this meeting back to order. 2 00:00:13,235 --> 00:00:14,445 Alright, good evening everybody. 3 00:00:14,445 --> 00:00:16,165 Welcome to the Queen Anne County Commissioners meeting. 4 00:00:16,165 --> 00:00:17,205 This is a public meeting 5 00:00:17,205 --> 00:00:19,845 that is being aired live on our local cable television 6 00:00:19,845 --> 00:00:21,325 station, QAC TV seven. 7 00:00:21,615 --> 00:00:24,085 These media broadcasts provide county citizens an 8 00:00:24,085 --> 00:00:26,085 opportunity to watch and review 9 00:00:26,085 --> 00:00:27,245 our scheduled public meetings. 10 00:00:27,545 --> 00:00:29,325 In addition to our live audience this evening, 11 00:00:29,345 --> 00:00:31,845 we are providing remote options for citizens to watch 12 00:00:31,945 --> 00:00:33,845 and participate in county commissioner meetings. 13 00:00:34,405 --> 00:00:36,965 Citizens Citizens may watch our meeting live on our website 14 00:00:37,025 --> 00:00:39,125 at qac.org/live, 15 00:00:39,745 --> 00:00:42,605 or on our public access governmental television channel 16 00:00:42,925 --> 00:00:44,485 provided by Breeze Line Cable Services. 17 00:00:45,485 --> 00:00:46,565 Citizens may also participate 18 00:00:46,565 --> 00:00:48,365 by joining the live Zoom meeting by going 19 00:00:48,365 --> 00:00:51,045 to qac.org/public comment 20 00:00:51,425 --> 00:00:53,165 and citizens may also email comments 21 00:00:53,305 --> 00:00:55,965 to public comment@qac.org. 22 00:00:56,545 --> 00:00:58,285 All comments received will be summarized 23 00:00:58,285 --> 00:00:59,885 during the present public comment period. 24 00:00:59,985 --> 00:01:03,005 On tonight's agenda. We acknowledge everyone's participation 25 00:01:03,025 --> 00:01:04,925 and by attending you acknowledge 26 00:01:04,925 --> 00:01:07,245 that this session is both recorded and aired present. 27 00:01:07,245 --> 00:01:08,645 Public comment will be taken 28 00:01:08,665 --> 00:01:10,405 and is limited to three minutes per person. 29 00:01:10,825 --> 00:01:11,845 If you do care to speak, 30 00:01:11,845 --> 00:01:13,885 please sign up at the information table in the lobby. 31 00:01:14,725 --> 00:01:17,125 Comments longer than three minutes can be submitted in 32 00:01:17,125 --> 00:01:18,525 writing for the commissioner's review. 33 00:01:18,985 --> 00:01:20,485 We will now stand and be led in the Pledge 34 00:01:20,485 --> 00:01:21,845 of Allegiance by commission. 35 00:01:21,845 --> 00:01:22,845 President Jim Marin. 36 00:01:24,605 --> 00:01:26,405 I pledge Allegiance to the flag 37 00:01:26,785 --> 00:01:28,365 of the United States of America 38 00:01:29,025 --> 00:01:31,125 and to the republic for which it stands, 39 00:01:31,665 --> 00:01:33,645 one nation under God 40 00:01:34,105 --> 00:01:37,125 and indivisible with Liberty Justice for all. 41 00:01:46,115 --> 00:01:49,125 Okay, that brings us to the approval of the agenda 42 00:01:49,185 --> 00:01:50,485 and the minutes for this evening. 43 00:01:50,865 --> 00:01:52,805 So the agenda for today's meeting March, 44 00:01:52,905 --> 00:01:55,525 or excuse me, may the 26th, along 45 00:01:55,525 --> 00:01:56,605 with the regular session minutes, 46 00:01:56,745 --> 00:01:59,725 the closed session minutes, and the sanitary commission 47 00:01:59,725 --> 00:02:02,565 minutes for May the 12th have been circulated for review. 48 00:02:03,145 --> 00:02:06,565 We also circulated the minutes from the FY 27 budget 49 00:02:06,565 --> 00:02:11,125 informational sessions last week on May 18th, 50 00:02:11,125 --> 00:02:12,565 19th and 20th. 51 00:02:13,265 --> 00:02:15,965 Any additions or corrections to any of the minutes 52 00:02:16,185 --> 00:02:17,325 or the agenda? 53 00:02:17,945 --> 00:02:20,925 Motion to add one agenda item on tonight's agenda. 54 00:02:21,035 --> 00:02:24,005 Okay, second. All this in favor? Aye. 55 00:02:25,785 --> 00:02:28,205 Motion to approve tonight's agenda as amended 56 00:02:28,205 --> 00:02:29,565 and all minutes as submitted. 57 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:32,525 Second. All those in favor? 58 00:02:32,905 --> 00:02:37,335 Aye. Aye. No session. 59 00:02:38,405 --> 00:02:39,615 Okay, thank you Commissioner. 60 00:02:39,615 --> 00:02:43,255 So we just had a closed session under the general provisions 61 00:02:43,255 --> 00:02:45,855 article section three three F 3 0 5 B eight 62 00:02:46,195 --> 00:02:48,015 to discuss potential litigation 63 00:02:48,115 --> 00:02:50,495 and under section 3 3 0 5 B one 64 00:02:51,195 --> 00:02:53,135 to discuss boards and commissions. 65 00:02:53,275 --> 00:02:56,335 And I believe we do have one appointment 66 00:02:56,335 --> 00:02:57,495 to make for boards and commissions. 67 00:02:58,315 --> 00:03:01,325 So We received a letter from our board 68 00:03:01,325 --> 00:03:02,925 of licensed commissioners, our liquor board, 69 00:03:03,345 --> 00:03:04,605 and they voted unanimously 70 00:03:04,605 --> 00:03:06,645 to support the reappointment of gene ransom. 71 00:03:07,465 --> 00:03:09,325 So I moved to reappoint gene Ransom 72 00:03:09,325 --> 00:03:11,645 to fill the vacancy on the board of licensed commissioners, 73 00:03:12,365 --> 00:03:14,005 our liquor board, and also we're 74 00:03:14,005 --> 00:03:15,205 appointing him as the chairman of the board. 75 00:03:15,635 --> 00:03:18,565 This chairman will expire on June 30th, 2030. 76 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:21,325 Second. We have a motion in a second. 77 00:03:21,385 --> 00:03:25,005 Any discussion on the second topic? Seeing none. 78 00:03:25,005 --> 00:03:27,885 All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? 79 00:03:28,345 --> 00:03:29,345 So moved. 80 00:03:29,915 --> 00:03:31,205 Alright, thank you commissioners. 81 00:03:32,085 --> 00:03:33,765 So next we have press public comment. 82 00:03:34,185 --> 00:03:36,845 So this is the general press and public comment period. 83 00:03:36,945 --> 00:03:38,925 We have a number of hearings tonight, so 84 00:03:39,565 --> 00:03:41,005 I don't know if anybody's signed up for, we 85 00:03:41,005 --> 00:03:42,005 Have no one signed up. 86 00:03:42,005 --> 00:03:44,885 Would anybody like to speak? Seeing none, 87 00:03:44,885 --> 00:03:46,085 we'll post press and public comment. 88 00:03:49,315 --> 00:03:51,245 Okay. Commissioners, we can go into the legislation 89 00:03:51,245 --> 00:03:52,445 portion of tonight's agenda. 90 00:03:52,625 --> 00:03:56,845 So that would be Tab seven. 91 00:03:58,465 --> 00:04:01,125 So under tab seven, item one, pages one through two, 92 00:04:01,185 --> 00:04:02,565 we have the comprehensive water 93 00:04:02,585 --> 00:04:06,205 and sewer plan, public hearing for the Marlin Farms 94 00:04:06,225 --> 00:04:09,725 and Dominion sewer service area designation. 95 00:04:09,745 --> 00:04:13,365 So Mr. Thompson, this is a A map amendment 96 00:04:13,385 --> 00:04:15,045 to include the Marlin Farms 97 00:04:15,045 --> 00:04:18,165 and Dominion sewer service area map in the comprehensive 98 00:04:18,295 --> 00:04:19,325 water and sewer plan. 99 00:04:19,355 --> 00:04:21,645 This is a area of public health concern. 100 00:04:21,675 --> 00:04:24,445 It's been designated such since 1984 101 00:04:24,985 --> 00:04:27,605 and this map amendment is required in order 102 00:04:27,705 --> 00:04:29,805 for the public works staff 103 00:04:29,825 --> 00:04:32,645 to pursue a public health exemption from the Smart Growth 104 00:04:32,645 --> 00:04:35,045 Coordinating Committee for an extension of public sewer 105 00:04:35,045 --> 00:04:36,205 outside of a growth area. 106 00:04:37,105 --> 00:04:38,105 Mr. Thompson? Ready? 107 00:04:39,195 --> 00:04:40,925 This is a public hearing being held 108 00:04:40,925 --> 00:04:44,165 by the county commissioner Queen Edge County 5:40 PM 109 00:04:44,195 --> 00:04:45,965 Tuesday May the 26th. 110 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:50,125 2026 in the commissioner's meeting room Liberty Building 111 00:04:50,305 --> 00:04:52,925 1 0 7 North Liberty Street, central Maryland. 112 00:04:53,785 --> 00:04:55,165 The purpose of the hearing is 113 00:04:55,165 --> 00:04:58,485 to consider amending the Queen Edge County 2011 114 00:04:58,485 --> 00:05:00,565 comprehensive order and service plan. 115 00:05:01,465 --> 00:05:02,565 In addition to the hearing 116 00:05:02,745 --> 00:05:05,725 and informational presentation was made on Tuesday, 117 00:05:06,025 --> 00:05:07,885 May 12th, 2026. 118 00:05:09,185 --> 00:05:12,565 The proposal being considered is the Marlin Farms 119 00:05:12,565 --> 00:05:16,645 and Dominion service sewer service area map. 120 00:05:17,185 --> 00:05:20,365 The amendment seeks to adopt the service area map 121 00:05:20,365 --> 00:05:22,045 for the Marlin Farm subdivision 122 00:05:22,425 --> 00:05:23,765 and the community of Dominion. 123 00:05:24,745 --> 00:05:28,685 The map was removed from the draft 2011 comprehensive water 124 00:05:28,705 --> 00:05:32,205 and sewer plan due to political concerns as 125 00:05:32,225 --> 00:05:35,885 to the actual need to service these communities 126 00:05:36,985 --> 00:05:38,405 as were the southern can. 127 00:05:38,405 --> 00:05:41,765 Island sewer service area maps which were sub 128 00:05:42,485 --> 00:05:45,685 southernly amended back into the plan 2014 129 00:05:46,535 --> 00:05:49,925 there in question have been have been noted as areas 130 00:05:50,025 --> 00:05:53,845 of public health concern since at least the 1984 131 00:05:53,845 --> 00:05:55,845 comprehensive water and sew plan 132 00:05:56,505 --> 00:05:59,365 and every subsequent plan since 133 00:06:00,275 --> 00:06:04,085 text brief briefly defining the problem remains in the 134 00:06:04,085 --> 00:06:05,365 2011 plan. 135 00:06:06,025 --> 00:06:10,285 The service area, we carry a s sewer service designation 136 00:06:10,305 --> 00:06:15,245 of S3 to anticipate service in four to 10 years. 137 00:06:16,305 --> 00:06:20,325 And the project will require a subsequent map map amendment 138 00:06:20,465 --> 00:06:22,845 to S two should the project proceed. 139 00:06:23,265 --> 00:06:26,325 Copies of the proposed amendment have been available in the 140 00:06:26,505 --> 00:06:27,845 county commissioner's office 141 00:06:28,625 --> 00:06:31,205 or electronically through a request to 142 00:06:31,935 --> 00:06:34,565 Allen quimbee@qac.org. 143 00:06:35,065 --> 00:06:38,525 All hearing sites are accessible to individuals sign, lack 144 00:06:38,525 --> 00:06:40,605 of interpreters and assistive listening 145 00:06:40,605 --> 00:06:41,725 systems are available. 146 00:06:42,355 --> 00:06:44,725 Part of record the proceeding will be a certificate 147 00:06:44,725 --> 00:06:47,445 of publication indicating that notice 148 00:06:47,465 --> 00:06:49,005 of the hearing was published for 149 00:06:49,585 --> 00:06:51,525 two successive weeks in the Bay. 150 00:06:51,525 --> 00:06:55,205 Times of record. Observer, I signed up. You 151 00:06:55,205 --> 00:06:56,205 Signed up. 152 00:06:56,205 --> 00:06:56,965 You want that? Your Thanks. 153 00:06:57,225 --> 00:06:59,485 Do you have anything? You wanna say? Anything? No. 154 00:06:59,485 --> 00:07:00,805 Commissioner, unless you have any questions? 155 00:07:02,825 --> 00:07:05,525 Nobody signed up. Nobody's signed up. Nobody signed up. 156 00:07:05,525 --> 00:07:06,565 Nobody wants to speak on this. 157 00:07:07,855 --> 00:07:10,225 Okay, I don't Anyone have any questions up here? 158 00:07:12,615 --> 00:07:13,835 Can we hold it for two more weeks? 159 00:07:15,015 --> 00:07:16,875 Oh, that was quick and easy. Thank you 160 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:18,515 Alan, you got to go first. 161 00:07:19,325 --> 00:07:20,325 There you go. 162 00:07:21,175 --> 00:07:22,275 You living good or something? 163 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:24,915 There you go. Hey, you wanna put that in there? 164 00:07:25,305 --> 00:07:26,435 Just, alright. 165 00:07:26,765 --> 00:07:28,075 Thank you Mr. Quimbee. Yep. 166 00:07:29,335 --> 00:07:30,755 All commissioner's. Moving right along. 167 00:07:31,115 --> 00:07:32,755 Item number two on page five. 168 00:07:32,865 --> 00:07:36,115 This is a public hearing on county ordinance 26 0 4 169 00:07:36,775 --> 00:07:40,555 use is allowed to occupy in excess of 65,000 square feet 170 00:07:40,555 --> 00:07:43,555 of gross floor area in the airport protection in Kent Island 171 00:07:43,555 --> 00:07:44,715 Gateway District. 172 00:07:47,015 --> 00:07:49,035 So Mr. Thompson, you've got the legal ad there. 173 00:07:49,035 --> 00:07:50,115 You wanna read that please? 174 00:08:04,495 --> 00:08:09,275 All right. This is a public hearing being 175 00:08:09,465 --> 00:08:11,635 held May the 26th. 176 00:08:11,695 --> 00:08:13,515 2026 at 177 00:08:14,925 --> 00:08:19,475 8:50 PM regarding 178 00:08:20,215 --> 00:08:23,355 county ordinance 26 0 4. 179 00:08:23,835 --> 00:08:28,115 A bill entitled an act concerning uses allowed 180 00:08:29,575 --> 00:08:33,315 to occupy an excess of 65,000 square feet 181 00:08:35,095 --> 00:08:39,995 of gross floor area in the airport protection 182 00:08:39,995 --> 00:08:43,955 in Ken Island Gateway 183 00:08:46,155 --> 00:08:49,955 District in Queen Ann County for the purpose 184 00:08:52,215 --> 00:08:54,635 of allowing boat sails and repair 185 00:08:54,695 --> 00:08:58,645 and Marinas occupied more than 65,000 square feet 186 00:08:58,645 --> 00:09:02,685 of crow floor area in the airport protection in Ken Island 187 00:09:02,685 --> 00:09:07,365 Gateway AP KIG district in Queen County 188 00:09:08,145 --> 00:09:10,965 by amending section 18 one 189 00:09:11,595 --> 00:09:15,325 dash 34 D three, the code of public local law, 190 00:09:15,345 --> 00:09:16,525 the Queen Ann County. 191 00:09:18,515 --> 00:09:23,325 This the proposal received a favorable recommendation 192 00:09:23,325 --> 00:09:26,525 from the Queen Ann County Planning Commission. 193 00:09:30,145 --> 00:09:31,845 All hearing sites are accessible 194 00:09:31,845 --> 00:09:33,725 to individual with disability. 195 00:09:34,485 --> 00:09:37,845 Speakers will be limited to three EE for written testimony. 196 00:09:39,225 --> 00:09:40,325 Can be submitted all 197 00:09:40,325 --> 00:09:42,805 before the hearing date to the county commissioners. 198 00:09:46,585 --> 00:09:48,685 No one's signed up. Is there any public comment? 199 00:09:51,745 --> 00:09:53,405 Do You all have anything you wanna say? 200 00:09:54,205 --> 00:09:56,565 I don't have anything specific to say in the amendment, 201 00:09:56,625 --> 00:09:57,765 but I just wanna introduce you 202 00:09:57,765 --> 00:09:59,325 to Mary Ellen, our senior planner. 203 00:09:59,695 --> 00:10:01,325 She's been on with us since June, 204 00:10:01,805 --> 00:10:03,365 but this is the first time in front of the board. 205 00:10:03,385 --> 00:10:05,445 So I wanted to have her introduced, 206 00:10:05,965 --> 00:10:07,645 but I don't think you probably, 207 00:10:07,645 --> 00:10:09,045 do you have anything in addition to No, 208 00:10:09,045 --> 00:10:10,125 unless you have any questions? 209 00:10:10,515 --> 00:10:12,765 Nope. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. 210 00:10:14,785 --> 00:10:19,405 You wanna vote on it? I'll leave it over. Okay. 211 00:10:19,595 --> 00:10:21,565 Alright, we'll leave it open for two more weeks. Thank you 212 00:10:27,525 --> 00:10:27,605 Stephanie. 213 00:10:27,605 --> 00:10:31,165 There wasn't no time sensitive with that. Is there? Alright. 214 00:10:32,945 --> 00:10:35,325 Not that I, No, nothing Okay. That I'm aware. 215 00:10:35,465 --> 00:10:38,485 Not that I Two weeks is not gonna hurt anybody. 216 00:10:41,525 --> 00:10:45,325 I don't think so. I Ready? 217 00:10:45,545 --> 00:10:48,565 So we leave? Yep. Our item. Hold 218 00:10:48,565 --> 00:10:49,325 On. I'm sorry. 219 00:10:49,595 --> 00:10:53,845 Hold on. So is it okay to hold that out for two weeks 220 00:10:53,945 --> 00:10:55,925 or is there a time issue? 221 00:10:56,345 --> 00:10:57,725 Are you here represent for Ryan? 222 00:10:58,265 --> 00:11:01,125 So I'm here for Ryan, yeah. Okay. Is there a time concern? 223 00:11:01,305 --> 00:11:02,965 Not that I am aware of, no. Okay. 224 00:11:03,275 --> 00:11:07,205 Okay. Okay. We, okay, so we'll have a vote. You there is 225 00:11:07,985 --> 00:11:10,285 Put You on the spot. Ask me a question. 226 00:11:10,875 --> 00:11:13,125 It's recorded now. There you go. 227 00:11:13,595 --> 00:11:15,725 Alright, commissioners item number three then 228 00:11:16,425 --> 00:11:18,845 as public hearing on county ordinance 26 0 7. 229 00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:22,045 This is for non-residential floor area in the Waterfront 230 00:11:22,045 --> 00:11:23,325 Village Center district. 231 00:11:23,685 --> 00:11:27,845 This is 26 0 7, page number six in 232 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:30,245 tab seven, item three. 233 00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:34,565 Mr. Thompson, This is a public hearing being held 234 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:36,925 Tuesday May the 26th. 235 00:11:36,925 --> 00:11:41,205 2026 at 5:50 PM in the county Commissioner meeting room 236 00:11:41,595 --> 00:11:44,965 Liberty Building 1 0 7 North Liberty Street. 237 00:11:45,665 --> 00:11:49,445 The hearings to receive public comment on county ordinance 238 00:11:49,445 --> 00:11:53,565 number 26 0 7 A bill entitled an ACT 239 00:11:53,565 --> 00:11:58,125 concerning non-residential floor area ratio in the 240 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:01,765 Waterfront Village Center Zoning District in Queen Edge 241 00:12:01,765 --> 00:12:03,365 County for the purpose 242 00:12:03,465 --> 00:12:07,245 of increasing the BuyRight maximum non-residential floor 243 00:12:07,275 --> 00:12:11,165 area FAR from 30% to 40% 244 00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:13,605 in the Waterfront Village Center. 245 00:12:14,365 --> 00:12:16,205 WBC zoning district 246 00:12:16,925 --> 00:12:21,045 removing the non-residential floor area bonus in the WBC 247 00:12:21,365 --> 00:12:23,405 district and generally modifying 248 00:12:23,505 --> 00:12:27,765 and addressing non-residential floor area ratio in the 249 00:12:27,765 --> 00:12:32,085 Waterfront Village Center zoning district in Queen S County 250 00:12:32,745 --> 00:12:36,005 by amending section 18,000 1, 26 F two 251 00:12:36,825 --> 00:12:39,685 and N one A of the code of public local laws 252 00:12:39,745 --> 00:12:40,885 of Queen S County. 253 00:12:42,145 --> 00:12:45,005 The proposed ordinance received the favorable recommendation 254 00:12:45,005 --> 00:12:47,565 from the Queen Anne County Planning Commission. 255 00:12:48,025 --> 00:12:50,525 Copies of the ordinance have been available at the county 256 00:12:50,525 --> 00:12:54,485 commissioner's office and on the, at the county website 257 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:57,005 speakers were limited to three minutes. 258 00:12:57,075 --> 00:13:01,125 Each written testimony of any length can be submitted on or 259 00:13:01,125 --> 00:13:03,445 before the hearing date to the county Commissioner's Office 260 00:13:03,665 --> 00:13:06,205 1 0 7 North Liberty Street, Centerville. 261 00:13:07,385 --> 00:13:09,525 All hearing sites are accessible, individual 262 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:12,045 with disabilities, sign language interpreters 263 00:13:12,065 --> 00:13:14,365 and assistive listening systems are available. 264 00:13:16,035 --> 00:13:18,725 Part of the record of this proceeding will be a certificate 265 00:13:18,725 --> 00:13:20,525 of publication indicating that notice 266 00:13:20,525 --> 00:13:22,325 of the hearing was published 267 00:13:22,325 --> 00:13:25,925 for two successive weeks in the Bay Times's record observer 268 00:13:27,105 --> 00:13:29,645 and as well as the recommendation 269 00:13:29,645 --> 00:13:32,085 of the Queen Hans County Planning Commission. 270 00:13:32,945 --> 00:13:37,605 No one signed up for their any public comments with respect 271 00:13:37,665 --> 00:13:39,765 to county ordinance 26 0 7. 272 00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:43,765 Real quick, just wanna ask the question. 273 00:13:43,985 --> 00:13:47,125 So we're going through the, via the moratorium, 274 00:13:47,695 --> 00:13:49,845 we're changing obviously commercial apartments 275 00:13:49,845 --> 00:13:51,565 and they're not gonna be commercial apartments. 276 00:13:51,755 --> 00:13:54,805 Will that automatically, if these were to pass through, will 277 00:13:54,805 --> 00:13:57,205 that automatically, will that language update automatically 278 00:13:57,205 --> 00:13:59,125 that they would be nonconforming at that point? 279 00:13:59,125 --> 00:14:01,005 Or how would that work? If they're called commercial 280 00:14:01,005 --> 00:14:03,405 apartments but they won't exist in the re 281 00:14:03,405 --> 00:14:04,565 they'll be residential. 282 00:14:04,565 --> 00:14:06,245 They won't be considered commercial any longer. 283 00:14:06,545 --> 00:14:09,725 So they still would be applied in the same manner. Okay. 284 00:14:09,905 --> 00:14:12,245 As the commercial apartments stand now in the code. 285 00:14:12,295 --> 00:14:13,565 Right. Okay. Yes. Alright. 286 00:14:16,405 --> 00:14:20,105 Any other questions for the public? 287 00:14:20,365 --> 00:14:22,585 You want to, should have done this on the other one, 288 00:14:22,585 --> 00:14:24,865 but for the public watching, what is this? 289 00:14:25,245 --> 00:14:27,705 The nuts and bolts of this amendment? 290 00:14:29,485 --> 00:14:34,105 The nuts and bolts would be per changing the FAR 291 00:14:35,045 --> 00:14:38,425 to from 30 from, excuse me, 292 00:14:38,425 --> 00:14:39,505 30 to 40, 30%. 293 00:14:39,685 --> 00:14:43,385 30% to 40%. Which means what? To the general public. 294 00:14:43,605 --> 00:14:47,745 Ah, so the floor area ratio is a sum 295 00:14:47,745 --> 00:14:49,665 of all floors, including basements 296 00:14:49,665 --> 00:14:52,325 and upper floors divided by the total floor area. 297 00:14:52,905 --> 00:14:55,525 So that is, bless you. Thank you. 298 00:14:55,665 --> 00:14:59,205 So what that means that, that regulates the floor, 299 00:14:59,385 --> 00:15:01,605 the building size on a lot. 300 00:15:02,785 --> 00:15:06,685 So by increasing the floor area ratio, 301 00:15:07,105 --> 00:15:11,645 the building mass, so to speak, can be larger on, on a, 302 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:12,685 on a building site. 303 00:15:13,065 --> 00:15:17,605 But also the, the other regulations, the 304 00:15:18,305 --> 00:15:20,885 design criteria, parking regulations 305 00:15:21,425 --> 00:15:23,125 and the other design guidelines, 306 00:15:23,645 --> 00:15:25,525 critical area storm water requirements would still 307 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:26,565 prevail on this site. 308 00:15:28,435 --> 00:15:31,405 Okay. Alright. Yeah. 309 00:15:31,675 --> 00:15:33,205 Were you looking for a specific project? 310 00:15:33,435 --> 00:15:36,725 Well, no, I was looking for how that 30 311 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:39,005 to 40 relates to the public. Okay. 312 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:41,845 That's all. And, and if I also make for, for the public 313 00:15:41,905 --> 00:15:43,925 as well the, there are other, 314 00:15:45,635 --> 00:15:46,965 this is also consistent 315 00:15:46,965 --> 00:15:49,765 with many other commercial zoning districts, if I may, 316 00:15:50,105 --> 00:15:53,125 on the town center, urban commercial, suburban industrial, 317 00:15:53,415 --> 00:15:55,965 light industrial, Grayson, neighborhood, 318 00:15:55,965 --> 00:15:57,485 commercial suburban industrial, 319 00:15:58,145 --> 00:16:02,285 and the airport protection Kent 320 00:16:02,285 --> 00:16:03,405 Island gateway districts. 321 00:16:03,405 --> 00:16:04,725 And those are all also have 40%. 322 00:16:04,865 --> 00:16:06,205 So they're all at 40%. Yes sir. 323 00:16:06,205 --> 00:16:08,045 So we're just bringing this up to what everything else is. 324 00:16:08,045 --> 00:16:10,285 Yep. Yes. Great. Thank you. You're welcome. Appreciate it. 325 00:16:10,285 --> 00:16:11,365 We're gonna hold that for two weeks. 326 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:13,525 Okay. Two Weeks. Moving on. 327 00:16:14,115 --> 00:16:16,285 Alright commissioners item four on page seven. 328 00:16:16,285 --> 00:16:19,405 This is public hearing on county ordinance 26 0 8. 329 00:16:19,405 --> 00:16:22,405 This is for commercial apartments in the Waterfront Village 330 00:16:22,585 --> 00:16:24,045 Center zoning district. 331 00:16:24,585 --> 00:16:27,405 And the objective here is to add additional provisions 332 00:16:27,405 --> 00:16:29,645 to allow commercial apartments within that district 333 00:16:29,645 --> 00:16:32,605 to locate the commercial apartment dwelling on any same 334 00:16:32,615 --> 00:16:34,085 floor, including the first floor. 335 00:16:34,105 --> 00:16:36,805 So not necessarily the top floor, it can be any floor. 336 00:16:38,685 --> 00:16:41,645 Planning commission also sent a favorable favorable report 337 00:16:41,645 --> 00:16:43,085 to the commissioners on this amendment. 338 00:16:43,465 --> 00:16:45,005 So Mr. Thompson, 339 00:16:46,455 --> 00:16:47,455 Thank you. 340 00:16:47,555 --> 00:16:50,205 This is a public hearing being held by the county Mr. 341 00:16:50,475 --> 00:16:51,885 Queenan County, Tuesday, 342 00:16:52,105 --> 00:16:56,405 May 26th, 2026 at 5:55 PM 343 00:16:56,985 --> 00:16:59,445 and the county commissioner meeting room Liberty Building 344 00:16:59,625 --> 00:17:02,925 1 0 7 North Liberty Street, Centerville, Maryland 345 00:17:03,485 --> 00:17:07,485 hearings receive public comment on proposed county ordinance 346 00:17:07,485 --> 00:17:10,005 26 0 8 ACT 347 00:17:10,055 --> 00:17:13,125 concerning commercial apartment in the Waterfront Village 348 00:17:13,225 --> 00:17:17,405 Center, WVC zoning district in Queen Ance County 349 00:17:18,305 --> 00:17:21,725 for the purpose of allowing commercial apartments on any 350 00:17:21,775 --> 00:17:26,205 floor, including the first floor in the waterfront billing 351 00:17:26,225 --> 00:17:27,725 center zoning district, 352 00:17:28,145 --> 00:17:30,525 and providing such commercial apartments 353 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:35,005 shall be located on the same floor by amending section 354 00:17:35,525 --> 00:17:37,605 18 1 26 F 355 00:17:39,195 --> 00:17:41,485 Four Of the code of public level laws 356 00:17:41,505 --> 00:17:42,645 of Queen Anne County. 357 00:17:43,265 --> 00:17:46,525 The proposed ordinance received a favorable recommendation 358 00:17:46,525 --> 00:17:48,765 from the Queen Anne County Planning Commission 359 00:17:49,305 --> 00:17:51,925 at their April 9th, 2026 meeting. 360 00:17:52,465 --> 00:17:55,605 Copies of the proposed orders have been available at the 361 00:17:55,605 --> 00:17:56,725 county commissioner's office 362 00:17:57,425 --> 00:18:00,445 and on the county website speakers will be 363 00:18:00,445 --> 00:18:01,605 limited to three minutes. 364 00:18:01,675 --> 00:18:05,645 Each written testimony of any length can be submitted all 365 00:18:05,645 --> 00:18:06,805 before the hearing date 366 00:18:06,805 --> 00:18:09,925 to the county commissioners 1 0 7 North Liberty Street. 367 00:18:10,385 --> 00:18:13,605 Bel. All hearing sites are accessible to individuals 368 00:18:13,605 --> 00:18:16,525 with disability sign language interpreters, 369 00:18:16,545 --> 00:18:18,805 and assistive listening systems are available. 370 00:18:19,585 --> 00:18:21,805 For the record of the proceeding will be a certificate 371 00:18:21,805 --> 00:18:23,805 of publication indicating that notes 372 00:18:23,825 --> 00:18:25,285 of the hearing was published 373 00:18:25,745 --> 00:18:29,205 for two successive weeks in the Bay Honor Director Observer, 374 00:18:30,385 --> 00:18:32,965 as well as the recommendation 375 00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:35,325 of the Queen Ann County Planning Commission. 376 00:18:37,305 --> 00:18:39,725 No one signed up for this either. 377 00:18:39,905 --> 00:18:42,685 Is there any, anybody have any public comment 378 00:18:43,115 --> 00:18:44,525 with respect of the county? 379 00:18:44,705 --> 00:18:45,765 1 26? 380 00:18:48,435 --> 00:18:50,525 I'll take a stab at this one for the public. 381 00:18:50,995 --> 00:18:52,645 Okay, so on, 382 00:18:52,795 --> 00:18:55,485 I'll just take a a four story building right now. 383 00:18:55,615 --> 00:18:57,205 First floor has to be commercial. 384 00:18:57,755 --> 00:19:01,085 This allows that first floor to be apartments, 385 00:19:01,215 --> 00:19:03,645 which somewhere in that building, the same amount 386 00:19:03,645 --> 00:19:05,605 of square footage would be considered commercial. 387 00:19:05,905 --> 00:19:06,925 It could be the top floor, 388 00:19:06,985 --> 00:19:08,405 the second floor or the third floor. 389 00:19:08,675 --> 00:19:11,765 Correct? Correct. There you go. 1.8, fuck on. 390 00:19:11,875 --> 00:19:13,725 Alright, so there's no, there's no, 391 00:19:13,855 --> 00:19:15,685 we're not adding more apartments than 392 00:19:15,685 --> 00:19:17,525 what the zoning is is set at. 393 00:19:17,525 --> 00:19:20,085 We're just moving around where you're open 394 00:19:20,655 --> 00:19:22,685 commercial area could be correct. 395 00:19:22,875 --> 00:19:24,645 It's, it is allowing more flexibility. 396 00:19:24,785 --> 00:19:26,445 And this would just be in, 397 00:19:26,825 --> 00:19:30,085 in the waterfront village center district, right? 398 00:19:30,145 --> 00:19:31,485 Yes. So I got a feeling we're gonna start 399 00:19:31,585 --> 00:19:34,645 And then WBC is located where it's, 400 00:19:34,645 --> 00:19:36,045 there's only one WBC of the county. 401 00:19:36,115 --> 00:19:37,165 It's in the Kent narrow. That's the 402 00:19:37,165 --> 00:19:38,285 Kent narrow. Yes sir. Yep. Okay. 403 00:19:38,585 --> 00:19:41,885 And this will allow them, which I think is a good idea, 404 00:19:42,025 --> 00:19:46,655 is use some rooftop space, fourth floor space for the views. 405 00:19:46,795 --> 00:19:50,215 So yes sir, no problem there. Any other questions? 406 00:19:50,805 --> 00:19:53,015 Good guys. Okay, thank you. 407 00:19:53,015 --> 00:19:54,535 We'll hold this for two more weeks. That's what I, 408 00:19:56,755 --> 00:19:57,755 We good? 409 00:19:58,405 --> 00:19:59,735 Okay. Alright, continue. 410 00:19:59,755 --> 00:20:02,095 We have a few more of these and these are all citizen 411 00:20:02,095 --> 00:20:03,615 sponsored text amendments by the way. 412 00:20:03,615 --> 00:20:04,895 So that's why it's taking a little time. 413 00:20:04,895 --> 00:20:06,135 We have these all stacked up here, 414 00:20:06,155 --> 00:20:08,695 but item five on page eight, 415 00:20:08,995 --> 00:20:11,655 public hearing on county ordinance 26 0 9. 416 00:20:11,655 --> 00:20:12,655 This is amendments 417 00:20:12,755 --> 00:20:15,415 to the transfer development right standards. 418 00:20:16,075 --> 00:20:18,775 The objective here is to amend the transfer 419 00:20:19,325 --> 00:20:22,375 development right standards to allow for a transfer 420 00:20:22,375 --> 00:20:24,415 or parcel, which is designated 421 00:20:24,435 --> 00:20:27,015 as open space following the conveyance of development rights 422 00:20:27,015 --> 00:20:29,135 to be subdivided through the administrative subdivision 423 00:20:29,135 --> 00:20:31,335 process to accommodate lot line adjustments, 424 00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:34,815 but not to be reconfigured to create a new lot. 425 00:20:36,285 --> 00:20:37,455 Alright, Mr. Mr. Thompson? 426 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,975 Thank you. This is public hearing being held 427 00:20:41,995 --> 00:20:43,135 by the county commissioner 428 00:20:43,135 --> 00:20:46,815 of Queen Anne County County Tuesday, may the 26th. 429 00:20:46,890 --> 00:20:51,125 2026 at 6:00 PM in the county commissioner's meeting room, 430 00:20:51,475 --> 00:20:53,685 Liberty Building 1 0 7 North Liberty 431 00:20:53,685 --> 00:20:54,965 Street, central Maryland. 432 00:20:56,225 --> 00:20:59,485 The the hearing is with, with respect 433 00:20:59,545 --> 00:21:02,805 to county ordinance number 26 0 9 434 00:21:03,685 --> 00:21:06,685 a bill entitled an Act Amendments 435 00:21:06,745 --> 00:21:11,685 to the Transfer Development Rights TDR standards in Queen 436 00:21:11,685 --> 00:21:14,085 Edge County, Maryland for the purpose 437 00:21:14,145 --> 00:21:17,245 of amending the transfer development rights standards 438 00:21:17,305 --> 00:21:18,605 to permit a transfer 439 00:21:18,705 --> 00:21:23,005 or partial, which is designated open space following the 440 00:21:23,005 --> 00:21:26,525 conveyance of development rates to be subdivided 441 00:21:26,525 --> 00:21:28,925 through the administrative subdivision process 442 00:21:29,745 --> 00:21:32,005 to accommodate lot line adjustments 443 00:21:32,105 --> 00:21:34,685 but not to create additional lots 444 00:21:35,105 --> 00:21:37,005 and generally addressing subdivision 445 00:21:37,025 --> 00:21:40,645 of open space in Queen S County by mending section 446 00:21:41,245 --> 00:21:43,045 18 1 1 0 1 A 447 00:21:43,185 --> 00:21:47,165 and 18 1 1 0 4 A of the code of public local 448 00:21:47,815 --> 00:21:49,645 local laws of Queen Hands County. 449 00:21:50,345 --> 00:21:53,485 The proposed ordinance received a favorable recommendation 450 00:21:53,485 --> 00:21:56,805 from the Queen Hands County Planning Commission at their 451 00:21:56,805 --> 00:21:58,765 April 9th, 2026 meeting. 452 00:21:58,945 --> 00:22:00,805 Copies of the ordinance have been available 453 00:22:01,285 --> 00:22:04,845 to county commissioner's office prior to the hearing 454 00:22:05,265 --> 00:22:08,445 and also online on the county website. 455 00:22:09,405 --> 00:22:12,405 Speakers be limited to three minutes each written testimony 456 00:22:12,425 --> 00:22:15,285 of any length can be submitted all before the hearing date. 457 00:22:16,025 --> 00:22:18,325 All hearing sites are accessible, individuals 458 00:22:18,325 --> 00:22:20,925 with disability language interpreters 459 00:22:21,025 --> 00:22:23,405 and assistive listening systems are available. 460 00:22:24,265 --> 00:22:26,565 For the record of the proceeding will be a certificate 461 00:22:26,565 --> 00:22:29,085 of publication indicating that notice 462 00:22:29,185 --> 00:22:32,165 of the same was published in the Bay Times record observer 463 00:22:33,465 --> 00:22:37,765 for two successive weeks prior to light hearing, as well 464 00:22:37,845 --> 00:22:38,845 as the recommendation 465 00:22:39,025 --> 00:22:41,325 of the Queen Edge County Planning Commission. 466 00:22:42,355 --> 00:22:43,565 Jeffrey Thompson. 467 00:22:46,575 --> 00:22:47,685 Thank you Mr. Toon. 468 00:22:47,865 --> 00:22:49,525 You want to come up here? Commissioners 469 00:22:50,595 --> 00:22:52,965 Thought he'd give Mr. Thompson a break without anybody 470 00:22:52,965 --> 00:22:54,365 testifying you were wearing him out. 471 00:22:58,075 --> 00:23:00,725 This bill is really about being able to 472 00:23:01,425 --> 00:23:03,445 permit administrative subdivision, 473 00:23:03,455 --> 00:23:05,805 which is really just a lot line adjustment 474 00:23:05,805 --> 00:23:09,045 between two adjoining property owners for TDR open space. 475 00:23:09,995 --> 00:23:12,725 Important to note there could be no reconfiguration 476 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:16,005 of the open space, no additional lots, no changes 477 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:17,365 or restrictions applicable. 478 00:23:17,465 --> 00:23:19,965 The only thing we're asking is to be able change ownership. 479 00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:25,205 When you look at the, the map of the restricted lands 480 00:23:25,205 --> 00:23:28,565 that was attached by Ms. Jones on the staff report that went 481 00:23:28,565 --> 00:23:30,245 to the planning commission, nothing changes. 482 00:23:30,545 --> 00:23:32,405 It may, it remains exactly the same 483 00:23:34,145 --> 00:23:35,565 and it, we need, 484 00:23:35,565 --> 00:23:39,285 as she pointed out in her report on page three, flexibility 485 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:41,365 because you never know where you're gonna draw 486 00:23:41,365 --> 00:23:44,045 that line back when these, these open space 487 00:23:44,565 --> 00:23:45,645 areas were created. 488 00:23:45,645 --> 00:23:47,765 Nobody thought they might ever even sell their farm. 489 00:23:47,865 --> 00:23:50,005 Now we're trying to sell 'em. Where do you cut the line? 490 00:23:50,785 --> 00:23:53,005 And you might want to cut it along and stream bed. 491 00:23:53,025 --> 00:23:55,885 You might want let all the farm field to go on one parcel, 492 00:23:55,905 --> 00:23:57,085 on the woodland on another parcel, 493 00:23:57,085 --> 00:23:58,405 might wanna run down a hedge row. 494 00:23:58,405 --> 00:24:00,405 You're gonna take into consideration the roads on the farm. 495 00:24:00,995 --> 00:24:04,885 It's just a common sense amendment to allow people 496 00:24:04,885 --> 00:24:07,405 to subdivide their farms in a way that makes sense. 497 00:24:07,885 --> 00:24:09,245 I mean that's really what it comes down to. 498 00:24:10,445 --> 00:24:12,725 I really came up thinking he might have some questions, 499 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,245 but that's, that's really it in a nutshell. 500 00:24:17,825 --> 00:24:19,845 Anyone else sign up? Anyone else? 501 00:24:19,955 --> 00:24:21,285 Sign up a 502 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:28,045 want me to stand and sit wherever you're comfortable seat. 503 00:24:28,075 --> 00:24:30,925 Alright. By the way, commissioners, 504 00:24:30,925 --> 00:24:34,405 the signup sheet was taken away before we came in. 505 00:24:34,445 --> 00:24:35,885 I think Mr. Parker and I both wanted 506 00:24:35,885 --> 00:24:36,925 to sign up, but it wasn't there. 507 00:24:36,945 --> 00:24:37,945 So I, okay, 508 00:24:41,315 --> 00:24:42,525 Commissioners, good evening. 509 00:24:42,625 --> 00:24:45,285 Jay Stead, queen Anne's Conservation Association. 510 00:24:47,345 --> 00:24:51,205 My comments on ordinance 26 0 9 are gonna mirror my comments 511 00:24:51,385 --> 00:24:52,485 on 26 10. 512 00:24:54,185 --> 00:24:57,605 I'm gonna recommend a a no vote on this for right now, 513 00:24:57,905 --> 00:24:59,885 but with an asterisk behind it, 514 00:25:00,895 --> 00:25:02,245 which I'll come to at the end. 515 00:25:02,585 --> 00:25:03,285 But just for the record, 516 00:25:03,295 --> 00:25:04,565 we're not gonna be voting tonight at all. 517 00:25:04,765 --> 00:25:06,005 I understand. Yeah, and I, 518 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,245 I'm gonna submit some additional things later on. 519 00:25:09,985 --> 00:25:12,485 In any case, both the TDR program 520 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:16,925 and the N-C-D-N-C-D program represented an agreement 521 00:25:17,035 --> 00:25:19,045 between the landowner and the county. 522 00:25:19,075 --> 00:25:21,765 When these landowners signed up for it, they knew 523 00:25:21,765 --> 00:25:22,805 what they were getting into. 524 00:25:23,595 --> 00:25:25,525 They sold their development rights 525 00:25:25,545 --> 00:25:27,085 or transferred their development 526 00:25:27,085 --> 00:25:29,005 rights, whatever the case is. 527 00:25:29,425 --> 00:25:31,325 And that's now included in their deed. 528 00:25:31,785 --> 00:25:34,805 And so I understand what Mr. Thompson wants to do 529 00:25:34,905 --> 00:25:36,245 by moving the lot lines, 530 00:25:37,105 --> 00:25:39,165 and I'm not necessarily opposed to that, 531 00:25:39,665 --> 00:25:42,325 but I also fear that you're opening up Pandora's box 532 00:25:42,325 --> 00:25:45,845 because even though the open space may not be reconfigured 533 00:25:45,905 --> 00:25:48,325 by moving the lot lines, you could open the door 534 00:25:48,905 --> 00:25:53,845 for land use abuse in the way that you could open it up for 535 00:25:55,305 --> 00:25:59,685 not only farm uses, which are already in our code, 536 00:25:59,705 --> 00:26:01,005 but non-farm uses. 537 00:26:01,505 --> 00:26:04,485 And if you look in our code at just the non-farm uses 538 00:26:04,485 --> 00:26:06,165 that could be allowed on farmland. 539 00:26:06,625 --> 00:26:08,365 You could have things like tennis courts, 540 00:26:09,365 --> 00:26:12,685 lighted tennis courts, pickleball courts, all this stuff 541 00:26:12,685 --> 00:26:14,285 that could ultimately be added. 542 00:26:14,505 --> 00:26:16,445 And so you've got landowners right now 543 00:26:16,585 --> 00:26:19,285 who have purchased property in either one 544 00:26:19,285 --> 00:26:21,165 of these programs thinking 545 00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:23,045 that this is deed restricted open space 546 00:26:23,705 --> 00:26:27,245 and may end up having to deal with something later on. 547 00:26:27,605 --> 00:26:30,245 Commissioner McLaughlin, you'll know full well on this just 548 00:26:30,245 --> 00:26:33,005 with the landfill proposal over outside of Centerville. 549 00:26:33,945 --> 00:26:35,885 All those people knew what they were signing up 550 00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:37,325 for when they bought that property. 551 00:26:37,625 --> 00:26:39,685 And now years later they're saying, oh no, 552 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:40,725 we don't want a landfill. 553 00:26:41,155 --> 00:26:45,205 Imagine something non-farm related coming into the equation 554 00:26:45,625 --> 00:26:46,685 at this late date. 555 00:26:47,465 --> 00:26:48,885 You're gonna have this room filled 556 00:26:48,885 --> 00:26:50,925 with people saying a bunch of NIMBYs. 557 00:26:50,925 --> 00:26:53,445 And I'm always on the side of the NIMBY saying, you know, 558 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:54,845 we don't want this next to us 559 00:26:54,905 --> 00:26:56,845 or we don't want that in our neighborhood. 560 00:26:57,145 --> 00:26:59,805 And so I just feel like you're opening up Pandora's box, 561 00:27:03,015 --> 00:27:04,035 the asterisk part. 562 00:27:06,745 --> 00:27:08,225 I believe there's a way to solve this. 563 00:27:09,285 --> 00:27:11,465 I'm not opposed to lot line adjustment. 564 00:27:11,885 --> 00:27:15,945 And what I'd like is the opportunity to work 565 00:27:15,945 --> 00:27:19,345 with Mr. Thompson on both these ordinances and try 566 00:27:19,345 --> 00:27:21,225 and come up with a, with a solution 567 00:27:21,575 --> 00:27:24,345 that takes away the non-farm, 568 00:27:26,205 --> 00:27:28,705 the non-farm abuses that could occur 569 00:27:29,325 --> 00:27:31,305 if we're gonna have lot line adjustments. 570 00:27:31,835 --> 00:27:33,545 Where does that end? Right now? 571 00:27:33,545 --> 00:27:37,105 There's 10,000 acres in both of these programs divide 572 00:27:37,105 --> 00:27:39,025 by 128 landowners. 573 00:27:39,445 --> 00:27:40,585 If you allow it for them, 574 00:27:40,585 --> 00:27:42,105 you're gonna have to allow it for everybody. 575 00:27:42,685 --> 00:27:44,505 And so with that, I'll end it. 576 00:27:44,645 --> 00:27:47,105 And unfortunately I'll have to repeat some of this on, 577 00:27:47,165 --> 00:27:49,265 on the next, the next ordinance. 578 00:27:50,405 --> 00:27:51,405 Yes. 579 00:27:54,995 --> 00:27:55,935 You wanna come back up Jeff, 580 00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,495 This Joseph, so she can answer once 581 00:28:02,495 --> 00:28:03,615 and much of what he had to say. 582 00:28:03,755 --> 00:28:05,295 But you have the same restrictions 583 00:28:05,395 --> 00:28:06,535 on the land before and after. 584 00:28:06,535 --> 00:28:07,815 Jeff, can you sit down please? 585 00:28:08,085 --> 00:28:09,495 Just so the microphone, we can't 586 00:28:09,515 --> 00:28:10,575 Get the Chance the mic get you. 587 00:28:10,575 --> 00:28:12,335 We can't hear you on tv. Thank you. 588 00:28:13,355 --> 00:28:14,615 You have the same restrictions 589 00:28:14,615 --> 00:28:15,855 applicable before and after. 590 00:28:16,245 --> 00:28:18,055 Nothing different. Nothing changes. 591 00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:20,055 That's the whole reason we drafted it. 592 00:28:20,055 --> 00:28:21,415 The way we draft drafted it. 593 00:28:21,935 --> 00:28:23,375 Whatever you can do now, you can do 594 00:28:23,375 --> 00:28:25,775 after whatever you can't do now, you can't do 595 00:28:25,775 --> 00:28:26,935 after just that period. 596 00:28:27,125 --> 00:28:30,415 It's just that simple. All we're changing ownership. 597 00:28:30,505 --> 00:28:32,735 We're drawing a line both sides 598 00:28:32,735 --> 00:28:34,415 of the line in, in the open space. 599 00:28:34,415 --> 00:28:36,895 There's subject to the same covenants. There's no change. 600 00:28:39,855 --> 00:28:41,375 Stephanie? Yes. So 601 00:28:41,775 --> 00:28:44,295 I mean I'm, I'm listening what, what I heard from Mr. 602 00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:46,215 False, that is the uses 603 00:28:46,835 --> 00:28:48,935 and that is somewhat concerning, right? 604 00:28:49,075 --> 00:28:50,075 Is is there, 605 00:28:51,635 --> 00:28:53,775 So there's no change in the use that can be 606 00:28:54,355 --> 00:28:55,415 put on open space. 607 00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:58,495 There's no what There's no chain from when going 608 00:28:58,495 --> 00:29:01,015 through an admin process, if the text amendment was 609 00:29:01,155 --> 00:29:03,775 to succeed, there would be no change on the uses 610 00:29:03,775 --> 00:29:05,735 that would be permitted within that open space. 611 00:29:06,195 --> 00:29:09,255 So any acreage that is in open space is restricted 612 00:29:09,255 --> 00:29:12,215 to only the uses listed in 18 one dash 12, which is, 613 00:29:12,435 --> 00:29:14,495 But does that dash 12 have pickleball courts 614 00:29:14,495 --> 00:29:15,655 and lights and it has 615 00:29:15,735 --> 00:29:17,175 Recreational uses. 616 00:29:17,175 --> 00:29:19,615 But that's something if they essentially wanted to do now 617 00:29:20,045 --> 00:29:21,135 that they, they could, 618 00:29:24,755 --> 00:29:26,495 it also includes shooting clubs. 619 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,335 It includes all your standard farm, 620 00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:30,815 farm accessory dwelling units. 621 00:29:34,115 --> 00:29:38,615 It goes on to talk about also your, 622 00:29:41,995 --> 00:29:43,525 your mine's up to five acres. 623 00:29:44,345 --> 00:29:46,685 So there are uses that are not considered, you know, 624 00:29:46,715 --> 00:29:49,125 your traditional farming uses, 625 00:29:49,465 --> 00:29:53,325 but they are inclusive included in that language 626 00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:56,165 where it does allow the, that use within the open space. So 627 00:29:56,355 --> 00:29:59,845 Basically all you're suggesting is that if that you, 628 00:29:59,905 --> 00:30:02,165 you kind of drill down into this 629 00:30:02,505 --> 00:30:06,645 and perhaps maybe eliminate some of those non-farm uses. 630 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:11,125 What I'm suggesting is this, I understand what Mr. 631 00:30:11,405 --> 00:30:12,645 Thompson's dilemma is on. 632 00:30:12,825 --> 00:30:15,405 He mentioned a geologic feature on his land. 633 00:30:16,035 --> 00:30:17,525 That makes perfect sense to me 634 00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:20,485 because there might be a strip of land that is unusable 635 00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:21,765 for a farmer or whatever. 636 00:30:21,905 --> 00:30:24,805 And so I understand the need, the desire 637 00:30:24,805 --> 00:30:25,845 to move the lot line. 638 00:30:26,385 --> 00:30:28,605 All I'm suggesting is in circumstances 639 00:30:28,695 --> 00:30:32,205 where you're gonna move the lot line that some 640 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:34,965 of those other uses of which Stephanie's mentioning along 641 00:30:34,965 --> 00:30:37,605 with a whole long list of others which aren't mentioned 642 00:30:38,185 --> 00:30:39,645 should be taken off the table 643 00:30:40,155 --> 00:30:44,045 because these landowners made an agreement with the county. 644 00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:47,015 The agreement's there, we get that. 645 00:30:47,385 --> 00:30:50,135 Let's just try and tighten things up so there's no abuse 646 00:30:50,275 --> 00:30:51,775 And they're not changing the agreement. 647 00:30:51,875 --> 00:30:52,975 That's the whole point. 648 00:30:53,145 --> 00:30:55,535 We're not trying to change the agreement at all. 649 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:57,615 Well then you should have a problem, problem if you want 650 00:30:57,615 --> 00:31:00,175 to change, if you want to change the uses 651 00:31:00,175 --> 00:31:01,935 that are permitted in the open space, 652 00:31:02,075 --> 00:31:03,175 you should do it for everybody. 653 00:31:03,575 --> 00:31:04,575 I mean if it's that important, 654 00:31:04,635 --> 00:31:06,215 if you don't want it when I cut the line, 655 00:31:06,235 --> 00:31:08,655 why would you want it now if you weren't gonna allow the 656 00:31:08,655 --> 00:31:11,255 subdivision, they could do it now I'm just cutting the line. 657 00:31:11,755 --> 00:31:14,495 No greater use, no lesser use. Exact same use. 658 00:31:14,835 --> 00:31:17,575 So if you really want to change the uses in the open space, 659 00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:19,855 then do it but do it for everybody. 660 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,455 I don't see why you would isolate on the, 661 00:31:22,515 --> 00:31:23,895 on the subdivided piece. 662 00:31:24,315 --> 00:31:26,375 And would it apply to both pieces subdivided 663 00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:28,695 or does the person that keeps half of the open space 664 00:31:28,695 --> 00:31:29,775 that say he could still do it? 665 00:31:29,775 --> 00:31:31,695 He could always do. It's, it's only the person 666 00:31:31,895 --> 00:31:34,695 that was granted that, that it doesn't make any sense. 667 00:31:35,515 --> 00:31:37,015 So Stephanie gonna be open for two weeks. 668 00:31:37,185 --> 00:31:39,975 Could you bring back, has this ever happened where one 669 00:31:39,975 --> 00:31:44,655 of these uses has actually gone in come to fruition to come 670 00:31:44,655 --> 00:31:46,895 to fruition on one of these particular spaces in North? 671 00:31:47,005 --> 00:31:48,135 Just in general? In in general 672 00:31:48,135 --> 00:31:50,175 For the entire, for Space County? 673 00:31:50,245 --> 00:31:51,495 Yeah. Just curious to see 674 00:31:51,675 --> 00:31:53,815 The non-farm uses, Correct? 675 00:31:53,925 --> 00:31:56,015 Yeah. Could you bring that back? Yes. Alright. 676 00:31:57,035 --> 00:32:00,895 That's all I had. Alright. Is there any other 677 00:32:00,895 --> 00:32:03,975 Public comment with respect to county ordinance 678 00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:05,935 26 0 9? 679 00:32:08,045 --> 00:32:09,445 I feel like we're gonna get the same comments. 680 00:32:09,735 --> 00:32:11,685 Gonna be like Groundhog Day on the next one, right? 681 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:13,245 Well with this, like I said, 682 00:32:13,245 --> 00:32:14,405 we're gonna leave it open for two weeks. 683 00:32:14,505 --> 00:32:16,325 You're gonna look that up for us 684 00:32:16,945 --> 00:32:20,045 and if you guys wouldn't mind talking to each other 685 00:32:20,305 --> 00:32:21,525 and within the next two weeks 686 00:32:22,285 --> 00:32:25,005 I, no, and he actually, he actually did call me 687 00:32:25,105 --> 00:32:27,605 and I suggested he talked to Stephanie and Amy 688 00:32:27,715 --> 00:32:29,405 because I just don't see it. 689 00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:30,845 I still don't see, right. 690 00:32:30,945 --> 00:32:33,245 You know why special conditions would go 691 00:32:33,945 --> 00:32:34,945 Before, after. 692 00:32:34,945 --> 00:32:36,165 But I, but but you make a good point 693 00:32:36,165 --> 00:32:37,245 and I don't disagree with that. 694 00:32:37,265 --> 00:32:39,045 Is that maybe some of these issues should not be, 695 00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:41,565 be permitted because the, the whole point 696 00:32:41,565 --> 00:32:43,445 of you move in somewhere and you think this is what you got 697 00:32:43,445 --> 00:32:44,725 for life and then you turn around and 698 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:46,245 I get that. So, and that may be so, and that, 699 00:32:46,345 --> 00:32:47,805 And that's what I'd like to see is how often does 700 00:32:47,805 --> 00:32:49,445 that happen to where is it a problem? 701 00:32:49,505 --> 00:32:51,085 Is it not a problem? Is it something we should look at? 702 00:32:51,085 --> 00:32:53,165 Well there's one that struck me was you said five acre 703 00:32:53,165 --> 00:32:54,965 mining my, but that's there now. 704 00:32:55,065 --> 00:32:58,765 So that's how they did up there in price. 705 00:33:00,025 --> 00:33:03,765 The, the the solar five at a time. Oh boy. But 706 00:33:03,765 --> 00:33:05,605 It's maxed at the five acres as I remember 707 00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:06,775 Until you go to a major. 708 00:33:07,895 --> 00:33:08,895 Right. 709 00:33:09,265 --> 00:33:11,365 But I don't know that you could do a major in No you 710 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:13,405 cannot do a major, you cannot do a major on space on the 711 00:33:13,405 --> 00:33:14,565 open stretch on de district. 712 00:33:16,235 --> 00:33:17,325 Very good. All 713 00:33:19,015 --> 00:33:20,845 Since we're both gonna be speaking on the next 714 00:33:20,865 --> 00:33:23,005 One Right there. You had 715 00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:24,125 Somebody else. 716 00:33:24,125 --> 00:33:25,965 So actually, so this is actually a first too by the way. 717 00:33:26,125 --> 00:33:28,165 'cause we've never had, is it two commenters 718 00:33:28,165 --> 00:33:29,245 that's sitting at the same table 719 00:33:29,445 --> 00:33:30,405 Together? You had another comment? I think our 720 00:33:30,435 --> 00:33:31,845 Drew We we have something else. 721 00:33:32,375 --> 00:33:34,285 Could I, could I get you guys 722 00:33:34,485 --> 00:33:35,765 something to drink while you're here? He 723 00:33:36,505 --> 00:33:38,445 On the neck, he's on the next one. This is very Parker. 724 00:33:38,545 --> 00:33:40,285 I'm on the next one but it might help him. 725 00:33:40,365 --> 00:33:42,845 I comment on this one as well. I'm Willard. 726 00:33:45,215 --> 00:33:47,445 There you go. Thank You. Are you ready to start? 727 00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:49,525 Okay, well he's, do you want to comment? 728 00:33:50,865 --> 00:33:55,005 He wants 26 10 or you wanna comment? 26 0 9. It gonna 729 00:33:55,005 --> 00:33:56,005 Be same thing. 730 00:33:56,005 --> 00:33:57,165 It's gonna be the same thing. 731 00:33:57,185 --> 00:34:00,525 It has addresses the same issue and concerns that have been 732 00:34:00,525 --> 00:34:01,525 Raised. 733 00:34:01,525 --> 00:34:02,885 You wanna put it on oh 9 26 0 9, 734 00:34:02,945 --> 00:34:04,845 his testimony. It's up to you all. 735 00:34:04,995 --> 00:34:07,725 Yeah, we can readopt it for 26 10. Yes. 736 00:34:07,725 --> 00:34:09,845 Maybe Go ahead 737 00:34:09,845 --> 00:34:12,885 and Willie Parker from Parker Katz in East 738 00:34:12,945 --> 00:34:16,085 and I represent Ann Goodman 739 00:34:16,085 --> 00:34:20,765 and her husband Jamie, who owned 14 acres of land adjacent 740 00:34:21,025 --> 00:34:23,165 to 150 acres 741 00:34:23,225 --> 00:34:27,205 of open space in the Meadows Edge subdivision on Dean Road. 742 00:34:28,845 --> 00:34:31,205 They wish to buy a portion of that property. 743 00:34:32,145 --> 00:34:33,965 An organic farmer wishes 744 00:34:34,145 --> 00:34:36,085 to buy the remainder of the property. 745 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:39,685 They can't do it currently under the ordinance without this, 746 00:34:39,945 --> 00:34:42,605 the amendment that we're proposing in 26 10. 747 00:34:43,155 --> 00:34:45,885 It's open space on a non-contiguous subdivision. 748 00:34:49,025 --> 00:34:53,605 Mr. T's concerns I think are unfounded when you actually 749 00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:58,845 read the deeds of easement between the landowners 750 00:34:58,845 --> 00:35:00,605 that created these open space 751 00:35:01,735 --> 00:35:04,205 areas on non-contiguous subdivisions. 752 00:35:05,425 --> 00:35:10,085 And the county passive recreational 753 00:35:10,475 --> 00:35:14,645 uses are permitted such as arboretums, hiking nature areas, 754 00:35:15,325 --> 00:35:17,525 wildlifes sanctuaries, public 755 00:35:17,545 --> 00:35:19,965 and private parts, garden plots, beaches 756 00:35:21,835 --> 00:35:26,205 surface mining is not listed here in the document. 757 00:35:26,865 --> 00:35:29,605 And the document says where there's conflicts 758 00:35:29,605 --> 00:35:30,805 between the ordinance 759 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:34,445 and the document, the deed of easement easement, 760 00:35:34,445 --> 00:35:36,925 that's a perpetual easement on the land. 761 00:35:37,785 --> 00:35:39,805 The stricter document applies. 762 00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:44,925 So the county has anticipated the possibilities 763 00:35:45,305 --> 00:35:47,285 of more intense 764 00:35:47,545 --> 00:35:52,405 or less conservative conservation oriented 765 00:35:52,635 --> 00:35:56,125 uses on these open spaces by the creation of the, 766 00:35:56,505 --> 00:35:57,765 of the deed of easement. 767 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:03,565 The administrative subdivision process is an exhaustive 768 00:36:04,565 --> 00:36:06,885 multi-agency input into that process. 769 00:36:07,745 --> 00:36:10,805 And they can certainly put restrictions, 770 00:36:10,805 --> 00:36:13,005 additional restrictions if need be. 771 00:36:13,065 --> 00:36:17,605 But I, I suggest to you that the area of dirt that's covered 772 00:36:17,745 --> 00:36:21,845 by the deed of easements is not gonna change. 773 00:36:21,895 --> 00:36:24,045 Their restrictions are not gonna be changed. 774 00:36:24,755 --> 00:36:28,645 Mere ownership of portions of that dirt will change so 775 00:36:28,645 --> 00:36:31,685 that adjoining landowners can share in the 776 00:36:31,685 --> 00:36:32,845 ownership of the land. 777 00:36:34,215 --> 00:36:36,125 Happy to answer any questions that you have. 778 00:36:37,815 --> 00:36:40,605 Thank you. Can you submit the information you have? 779 00:36:40,925 --> 00:36:41,925 'cause I don't have that 780 00:36:43,185 --> 00:36:45,405 One of the recorded needs of easement. 781 00:36:45,435 --> 00:36:49,725 Yeah. Can I give it to Mr. Thompson? Yep. Yep. 782 00:36:50,435 --> 00:36:52,005 Perfect. The younger Mr. 783 00:36:53,825 --> 00:36:56,925 So Pat, I guess I guess we'll start with 26 10 784 00:36:56,925 --> 00:36:58,285 and let you Stephanie. 785 00:36:59,045 --> 00:37:00,045 Stephanie one. 786 00:37:01,195 --> 00:37:02,685 Yeah, so in your books commissioners item 787 00:37:02,685 --> 00:37:03,765 number six, page nine. 788 00:37:03,765 --> 00:37:05,725 This is county ordinance 26 10 amendments 789 00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:08,725 to the non-contiguous development NCD standards. 790 00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:13,685 Okay. This is a public hearing being held 791 00:37:13,685 --> 00:37:15,925 by the county commissions of Queen S County 792 00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:18,405 Tuesday May the 26th. 793 00:37:18,405 --> 00:37:22,565 2026 at 6:05 PM in the county commissioner meeting room 794 00:37:22,565 --> 00:37:25,165 Liberty Building warns seven North Liberty 795 00:37:25,185 --> 00:37:26,325 Street Centerville. 796 00:37:26,785 --> 00:37:30,965 The hearing's on proposed county ordinance number 26 10 797 00:37:31,605 --> 00:37:34,645 A bill entitled and that concerning amendments 798 00:37:35,105 --> 00:37:40,005 to the non-contiguous development NCD standards in Queen 799 00:37:40,205 --> 00:37:41,845 Anne County for the purpose 800 00:37:41,905 --> 00:37:45,405 of amending the non-contiguous development standards 801 00:37:46,025 --> 00:37:48,085 to allow a non-contiguous 802 00:37:48,145 --> 00:37:51,485 and developed parcel, which is designated open space 803 00:37:52,265 --> 00:37:53,405 to be subdivided 804 00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:55,845 through the administrative subdivision process 805 00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:59,885 to accommodate lot line adjust adjustments 806 00:38:00,345 --> 00:38:03,805 but not to be reconfigured or to create new lots 807 00:38:04,385 --> 00:38:05,805 and generally amending 808 00:38:05,825 --> 00:38:08,525 and addressing the subdivision of open space 809 00:38:09,115 --> 00:38:11,005 created on non-contiguous 810 00:38:11,065 --> 00:38:13,885 and developed parcels under the Queen Edge County 811 00:38:14,665 --> 00:38:19,005 zoning ordinance by amending section 18,000 1 98 at the code 812 00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:20,085 of public local laws. 813 00:38:21,075 --> 00:38:24,965 This proposed ordinance received a favorable recommendation 814 00:38:24,995 --> 00:38:28,685 from the planning commission after April 9th, 2026. 815 00:38:28,685 --> 00:38:31,725 Meeting copies of the ordinance have been available 816 00:38:31,905 --> 00:38:33,365 to the county commissioner's office 817 00:38:34,025 --> 00:38:37,365 and on the county website speakers will limited 818 00:38:37,585 --> 00:38:40,445 to three minutes each written testimony that any length 819 00:38:41,105 --> 00:38:42,165 may be submitted all 820 00:38:42,185 --> 00:38:45,205 before the hearing date to the county commissioners. 821 00:38:45,265 --> 00:38:46,925 All hearing sites are accessible. 822 00:38:47,545 --> 00:38:50,645 The individuals with disabilities sign language interpreters 823 00:38:50,665 --> 00:38:53,205 and assist system listening systems are available. 824 00:38:54,465 --> 00:38:56,965 For the record of the proceeding will be a certificate 825 00:38:56,965 --> 00:39:00,045 of publication indicating a notice of the saying, 826 00:39:00,045 --> 00:39:03,285 which published for two consecutive weeks prior 827 00:39:03,285 --> 00:39:06,645 to the tonight's hearing, as well as the recommendation 828 00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:08,605 of the Queen Edge County Planning Commission. 829 00:39:11,835 --> 00:39:13,205 Jeff, you've signed up. 830 00:39:13,265 --> 00:39:16,125 Do you want to have anything else as I Yeah, 831 00:39:16,165 --> 00:39:17,165 I will. 832 00:39:17,165 --> 00:39:19,405 Yeah, I'll speak and Mr. Parker asked if he could come up. 833 00:39:19,905 --> 00:39:23,805 The way this particular version came about was 834 00:39:23,905 --> 00:39:26,005 Mr. Parker filed on behalf 835 00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:28,045 of the Goodman's a proposed amendment 836 00:39:28,595 --> 00:39:30,885 that would have permitted the subdivision 837 00:39:31,185 --> 00:39:33,965 of the developed parcel open space. 838 00:39:35,285 --> 00:39:37,925 I then, on behalf of Shirley Schaeffer, filed an amendment 839 00:39:37,985 --> 00:39:41,525 of the same section in order to permit the subdivision 840 00:39:41,585 --> 00:39:44,925 of the non-contiguous parcel, which is the transfer parcel. 841 00:39:45,385 --> 00:39:47,405 And you transfer the rights over that parcel 842 00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:50,165 clearly in conflict. 843 00:39:50,665 --> 00:39:53,765 So then I drafted one on behalf of the grays trying 844 00:39:53,765 --> 00:39:55,925 to incorporate both of our wants and needs. 845 00:39:56,705 --> 00:39:58,925 And then Ms. Jones corral us all together 846 00:40:00,825 --> 00:40:01,885 and we tweaked it 847 00:40:02,265 --> 00:40:05,325 and it became what I ended up calling the reconciliation lag 848 00:40:05,325 --> 00:40:08,365 of three competing text amendments. 849 00:40:08,665 --> 00:40:10,725 And that way she didn't have to deal with, you know, 850 00:40:10,745 --> 00:40:11,965 what's good and what's bad. 851 00:40:12,305 --> 00:40:14,565 We all kind of agreed this was the best solution 852 00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:17,365 and that's, that's what we're here to consider tonight. 853 00:40:19,195 --> 00:40:22,885 Well, but Mr. Walker said about it is a deja vu 854 00:40:23,045 --> 00:40:27,205 'cause it's, it's the same thing except for of course 855 00:40:27,835 --> 00:40:31,285 TDRs are about critical area and NCDs about upland. 856 00:40:31,465 --> 00:40:32,645 That's the only difference. 857 00:40:32,945 --> 00:40:36,085 So we're trying to make the same amendment that I proposed 858 00:40:36,105 --> 00:40:39,645 for TDRs, for non-contiguous, both the transfer 859 00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:41,005 or parcel and the receiving parcel. 860 00:40:41,865 --> 00:40:43,725 That's it's, but it's the same pitch. 861 00:40:44,425 --> 00:40:47,165 We aren't reconfiguring, we aren't creating any new lots. 862 00:40:47,165 --> 00:40:48,205 We just want to be able 863 00:40:48,205 --> 00:40:50,165 to subdivide it only administratively 864 00:40:50,165 --> 00:40:51,325 with an adjoining lot owner. 865 00:40:51,385 --> 00:40:52,765 So it's a lot line adjustment. 866 00:40:53,745 --> 00:40:56,445 No real change, you know, other than that, to be honest, 867 00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:01,645 it's, it's, it's the same pitch I could give to you again. 868 00:41:01,645 --> 00:41:03,125 But there's really no need. 869 00:41:04,675 --> 00:41:06,205 It's just one's, one's critical 870 00:41:06,205 --> 00:41:07,405 area and the other's up them. 871 00:41:08,665 --> 00:41:11,005 But it's, it's to allow is, 872 00:41:11,105 --> 00:41:14,005 and Stephanie again, Ms. Jones again in her report 873 00:41:14,105 --> 00:41:16,445 for the non-contiguous point, it's about flexibility. 874 00:41:16,515 --> 00:41:17,645 It's given us the flexibility 875 00:41:17,645 --> 00:41:20,405 to cut those lines on a farm in areas 876 00:41:20,495 --> 00:41:22,205 where it makes sense to cut those lines. 877 00:41:22,265 --> 00:41:24,845 On our personal farm, there's literally a branch 878 00:41:24,915 --> 00:41:26,725 with a ditch that's 50 feet deep. 879 00:41:27,175 --> 00:41:29,205 Barry Waterman owns the adjoining property. 880 00:41:29,545 --> 00:41:31,645 He can't get across there, not in any vehicle. 881 00:41:31,825 --> 00:41:34,005 And he's gonna have a lot of guts if he goes down 882 00:41:34,445 --> 00:41:35,885 and tries to get up the other side. 883 00:41:36,505 --> 00:41:39,805 So back when we did our subdivision 25 years ago, 884 00:41:40,345 --> 00:41:43,205 his predecessor, predecessor didn't pay for the land. 885 00:41:44,045 --> 00:41:46,725 I created an easement that gave us all the use of the land. 886 00:41:46,785 --> 00:41:49,725 So right now I have all the use hunt fish timber 887 00:41:50,835 --> 00:41:53,045 till it do anything we want to do on it. 888 00:41:53,205 --> 00:41:55,405 I just want to fix it. I mean, so my, 889 00:41:55,405 --> 00:41:58,285 for my personal on the TDR, it's a fix it question. 890 00:41:58,955 --> 00:42:00,605 Same for people with the NCDs. 891 00:42:01,005 --> 00:42:03,645 I mean they need a reasonable way to carve, you know, 892 00:42:03,645 --> 00:42:05,165 those lines between their respective 893 00:42:05,235 --> 00:42:06,685 parcels in a way that makes sense. 894 00:42:08,475 --> 00:42:10,845 This use issue very did point out. 895 00:42:10,965 --> 00:42:13,165 I mean those covenants I've written, God knows how many 896 00:42:13,165 --> 00:42:15,685 of 'em they talk in terms of passive recreation. 897 00:42:16,145 --> 00:42:18,405 So I'll de depend on Ms. Jones to report back 898 00:42:18,405 --> 00:42:19,525 to you what that really means. 899 00:42:19,765 --> 00:42:21,245 'cause I don't think it includes pickleball, 900 00:42:21,245 --> 00:42:23,285 fortunately I don't think it includes that at all. 901 00:42:23,825 --> 00:42:26,805 So, but whatever it is, it's allowed now if you want 902 00:42:26,805 --> 00:42:28,405 to address it, you ought 903 00:42:28,405 --> 00:42:30,525 to address it in total not piecemeal 904 00:42:30,665 --> 00:42:32,125 as a result of this legislation. 905 00:42:32,125 --> 00:42:33,725 This legislation is doing nothing 906 00:42:33,825 --> 00:42:38,685 but allowing parcel person A to buy from person B 907 00:42:39,505 --> 00:42:41,645 and he's got the same rights, responsibilities 908 00:42:41,705 --> 00:42:46,125 and obligations as as the original person 909 00:42:46,155 --> 00:42:47,325 that coveted the property. 910 00:42:47,425 --> 00:42:49,445 It just, we're not asking 911 00:42:49,465 --> 00:42:51,325 to change anything other than ownership. 912 00:42:51,325 --> 00:42:53,685 So when you look at those maps over what's eased in this 913 00:42:53,685 --> 00:42:55,165 county, nothing changes. 914 00:42:55,625 --> 00:42:58,365 The restrictions don't change, we can't move the lines. 915 00:42:58,505 --> 00:43:01,285 It is what it is. And other than you're allowing two 916 00:43:01,285 --> 00:43:02,405 adjoining property over there, 917 00:43:02,965 --> 00:43:04,805 transfer parcel back parcels back and forth. 918 00:43:06,825 --> 00:43:08,605 Did you want to Comment on, 919 00:43:08,925 --> 00:43:10,605 I only thank you. 920 00:43:11,445 --> 00:43:12,725 I only want to say 921 00:43:12,745 --> 00:43:16,125 to complete the record on this public hearing on 26 10, 922 00:43:16,705 --> 00:43:18,885 if you can incorporate my comments on 923 00:43:18,885 --> 00:43:21,005 26 0 9, I'm happy with that. 924 00:43:21,385 --> 00:43:24,045 You got it. If you wanna sit down. 925 00:43:24,545 --> 00:43:29,205 Yep. I'll just reiterate some 926 00:43:29,205 --> 00:43:31,405 of the comments that I made earlier without going 927 00:43:31,405 --> 00:43:34,565 through the full pitch, I'm opposed to it. 928 00:43:35,645 --> 00:43:37,605 I believe it does open up Pandora's box. 929 00:43:42,465 --> 00:43:45,795 There's 128 landowners between those two programs. 930 00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:47,195 If we allow it here, we're 931 00:43:47,195 --> 00:43:48,235 gonna have to allow it for everybody. 932 00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:52,035 And maybe that's okay, but what's the end game of this? 933 00:43:52,135 --> 00:43:53,995 Are we gonna allow landowners 934 00:43:53,995 --> 00:43:55,635 that enrolled in these two programs 935 00:43:55,695 --> 00:43:57,755 to just routinely change their lot lines? 936 00:43:58,035 --> 00:44:00,955 I mean, is this something that it was already 937 00:44:00,955 --> 00:44:02,195 agreed to by the county? 938 00:44:02,375 --> 00:44:04,755 Mr. Thompson wants to renegotiate those terms 939 00:44:05,515 --> 00:44:07,555 a few years, a few years from now. 940 00:44:07,555 --> 00:44:09,355 Are we gonna renegotiate it again? 941 00:44:10,345 --> 00:44:12,435 Like what's the ultimate end game here? 942 00:44:12,535 --> 00:44:15,515 So I just, I think there's some unintended consequences here 943 00:44:15,515 --> 00:44:17,795 that I hope we can try and figure out. 944 00:44:22,705 --> 00:44:23,715 Yeah, I'll just, 945 00:44:24,015 --> 00:44:26,075 and I'll, I, I'm glad that you'll leave the record open 946 00:44:26,075 --> 00:44:27,955 because I think what I'll do is try 947 00:44:27,955 --> 00:44:29,915 and draft something up over the next couple days 948 00:44:30,025 --> 00:44:32,245 that address both Mr. Thompson and Mr. 949 00:44:32,885 --> 00:44:34,965 Parker's comments and submit that for the record. 950 00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:38,405 I just have one last comment on that comment. 951 00:44:38,795 --> 00:44:40,565 It's not really opening Pandora's back. 952 00:44:40,615 --> 00:44:41,885 We're here for a tax amendment. 953 00:44:42,185 --> 00:44:44,245 I'm asking you to allow all those people, 954 00:44:44,385 --> 00:44:47,165 we aren't here about my property if it's Goodman property, 955 00:44:47,255 --> 00:44:49,965 we're just saying it's the right thing to do for everybody. 956 00:44:50,665 --> 00:44:52,405 So he suggested it could open it. 957 00:44:52,505 --> 00:44:54,525 I'm asking you to allow everybody to do that. 958 00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:58,165 That's why I'm here. It's not a Pandora's box issue. 959 00:44:58,165 --> 00:45:00,005 It's, we got all this open space out there. 960 00:45:00,145 --> 00:45:02,365 Why shouldn't those landowners be, as long 961 00:45:02,365 --> 00:45:04,805 as they're not reconfiguring changing the restrictions 962 00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:07,605 applicable to it, what difference does the county have 963 00:45:07,745 --> 00:45:09,045 in and who owns it? 964 00:45:10,595 --> 00:45:14,725 Some same restrictions. Nothing changes other than other, 965 00:45:14,825 --> 00:45:17,485 And again, I, I agree there are circumstances 966 00:45:17,535 --> 00:45:19,085 where those lines could be adjusted. 967 00:45:19,305 --> 00:45:20,605 I'm not disagreeing with it. 968 00:45:20,825 --> 00:45:22,325 I'm just saying that there are, there needs 969 00:45:22,325 --> 00:45:23,845 to be some restrictions so 970 00:45:23,845 --> 00:45:25,845 that we're not ultimately creating an abusive, 971 00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:27,965 abusive practice here. 972 00:45:28,785 --> 00:45:30,725 But we're gonna put that on Stephanie's shoulders 973 00:45:31,825 --> 00:45:32,965 and find, you know, 974 00:45:33,285 --> 00:45:35,085 I think we have a good idea of what we don't wanna see. 975 00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:38,925 And you know, with the intent of open space before 976 00:45:40,185 --> 00:45:42,725 and with the changes, we don't wanna see certain things 977 00:45:43,155 --> 00:45:45,445 that you wouldn't have saw seen 978 00:45:46,275 --> 00:45:47,805 when you first made the open space. 979 00:45:47,905 --> 00:45:49,525 So that, that's a concern. 980 00:45:49,585 --> 00:45:50,925 Did you have one last That's what I think one 981 00:45:50,925 --> 00:45:51,925 Last Comment. 982 00:45:51,925 --> 00:45:52,525 That's a very quick comment. 983 00:45:52,995 --> 00:45:55,165 What the landowners agreed to 984 00:45:55,265 --> 00:45:58,965 and committed themselves to when they signed these deeds 985 00:45:58,985 --> 00:46:03,085 of easement for open space was the restrictions on land. 986 00:46:04,385 --> 00:46:08,115 They did not enter into some agreement with the county 987 00:46:08,185 --> 00:46:11,185 that said, only I can own that property. 988 00:46:11,245 --> 00:46:13,505 Or only one person can own all of it. 989 00:46:13,895 --> 00:46:15,105 That wasn't part of it. 990 00:46:15,685 --> 00:46:18,905 In fact, some of the deeds of easement actually allow for 991 00:46:19,455 --> 00:46:22,305 subdivision, but ordinarily 992 00:46:23,705 --> 00:46:25,305 approval is needed to do that. 993 00:46:25,575 --> 00:46:27,945 This is the process to gain the approval. 994 00:46:29,245 --> 00:46:33,265 So we're not changing any commitment that Land L owners made 995 00:46:33,295 --> 00:46:36,305 with regard to how the land is restricted. 996 00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:39,825 Thank you. Well we're gonna leave it open for two weeks. 997 00:46:40,625 --> 00:46:43,465 Stephanie's gonna vet this for us and bring it to us 998 00:46:43,525 --> 00:46:45,305 and we'll go from there. 999 00:46:45,605 --> 00:46:46,825 Do you just Thank you gentlemen. 1000 00:46:46,855 --> 00:46:49,105 Just to confirm, you want the same for the TDR 1001 00:46:49,105 --> 00:46:50,465 and the NCD open space? 1002 00:46:50,465 --> 00:46:52,065 Yes, please correct the numbers for both. Okay, 1003 00:46:53,635 --> 00:46:54,635 Great. 1004 00:46:54,635 --> 00:46:58,625 Yeah, I suspect the TDR is even more restricted just 1005 00:46:58,625 --> 00:46:59,825 because you're in the critical area. 1006 00:47:00,495 --> 00:47:02,065 Alright, thank you gentlemen. Thank 1007 00:47:02,065 --> 00:47:03,065 You. 1008 00:47:03,065 --> 00:47:03,705 Thank you. Alright, thank you everybody. 1009 00:47:05,455 --> 00:47:08,105 Alright commissioners, item number seven. 1010 00:47:08,165 --> 00:47:09,425 On pages 10 through 15, 1011 00:47:09,445 --> 00:47:12,065 we have public hearing on county ordinance 26 12. 1012 00:47:12,655 --> 00:47:14,865 This is the queen of County Forest Conservation Act, 1013 00:47:14,865 --> 00:47:17,305 chapter 18 two of the code of public local laws. 1014 00:47:17,935 --> 00:47:20,425 This particular amendment has been prepared by staff. 1015 00:47:20,445 --> 00:47:21,625 We have a presentation here. 1016 00:47:21,625 --> 00:47:24,545 This is a fairly comprehensive update, 1017 00:47:24,845 --> 00:47:26,945 so I'll let Mr. Thompson read the legal ad 1018 00:47:26,945 --> 00:47:29,105 and we can do the presentation to advise 1019 00:47:29,345 --> 00:47:32,245 and inform the board and the public at large. 1020 00:47:32,505 --> 00:47:33,505 So 1021 00:47:34,955 --> 00:47:36,645 This is a public hearing being held 1022 00:47:36,665 --> 00:47:39,405 by the county commissioner of Queen Edge County Tuesday, 1023 00:47:39,705 --> 00:47:41,805 May 26th, 2026, 1024 00:47:42,505 --> 00:47:45,045 6:10 PM in the county commissioner meeting room, 1025 00:47:45,395 --> 00:47:49,125 Liberty Building 1 0 7 North Liberty Street, central 1026 00:47:49,685 --> 00:47:51,405 Maryland with respect 1027 00:47:51,425 --> 00:47:55,845 to camp proposed county ordinance 26 12 a bill titled 1028 00:47:56,425 --> 00:47:59,245 an Act concerning the Queen Ash County Forest 1029 00:47:59,405 --> 00:48:00,605 Conservation Act. 1030 00:48:00,955 --> 00:48:04,245 Chapter 18 two of the Code of Public Local Laws 1031 00:48:04,945 --> 00:48:07,005 for the purpose of repealing 1032 00:48:07,105 --> 00:48:11,485 and replacing chapter 18, two of the code of pub, 1033 00:48:12,155 --> 00:48:15,085 code of Public Local Laws of Queen Ann County, 1034 00:48:15,585 --> 00:48:18,205 the Queen Ann County Forest Conservation Act, 1035 00:48:18,885 --> 00:48:21,605 bringing the Forest Conservation Act in compliance 1036 00:48:21,755 --> 00:48:26,365 with Senate Bill 5 26 in house Bill 1511, 1037 00:48:26,935 --> 00:48:29,925 which articulate numerous changes to MA 1038 00:48:30,645 --> 00:48:32,125 Maryland National Resources. 1039 00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:34,725 Title five, forest and Park. 1040 00:48:35,125 --> 00:48:37,685 Subtitle 16, forest Conservation 1041 00:48:38,355 --> 00:48:43,205 section five dash 1601 through five dash 1612 1042 00:48:44,205 --> 00:48:47,645 provided for definition rules of interpretation and purpose 1043 00:48:48,645 --> 00:48:49,805 provided for application 1044 00:48:49,805 --> 00:48:52,005 of the provisions amendments thereto 1045 00:48:52,885 --> 00:48:55,965 provided for qualified professional general requirements 1046 00:48:56,025 --> 00:48:57,485 of the declaration of intent 1047 00:48:58,285 --> 00:49:00,965 provided for forest stand delineation for 1048 00:49:00,965 --> 00:49:05,165 as conservation plans repairing buffers for retention 1049 00:49:05,785 --> 00:49:09,205 at forestation and reforestation, providing 1050 00:49:09,205 --> 00:49:12,525 for local conservation funds fee in lieu 1051 00:49:12,545 --> 00:49:14,125 and payments by credits 1052 00:49:14,305 --> 00:49:18,125 to an approved forest mitigation bank providing 1053 00:49:18,145 --> 00:49:22,485 for native tree species, species, financial security, 1054 00:49:23,175 --> 00:49:24,285 protective agreement 1055 00:49:24,545 --> 00:49:28,405 and standards for protection of trees, providing 1056 00:49:28,425 --> 00:49:30,045 for variances, inspections 1057 00:49:30,065 --> 00:49:33,805 and commercial timber harvest, providing for violation 1058 00:49:33,805 --> 00:49:37,285 of penalties and generally addressing the regulating 1059 00:49:37,345 --> 00:49:41,405 and protecting forest resources in Queen Ann County 1060 00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:45,845 by repealing and replacing chapter 18, two of the code 1061 00:49:45,845 --> 00:49:48,085 of public local laws of Queen Ann County. 1062 00:49:49,545 --> 00:49:52,775 The copies 1063 00:49:52,875 --> 00:49:55,135 of the ordinance have been available to county wishes. 1064 00:49:55,195 --> 00:49:58,575 Office order seven North Liberty Street General Maryland 1065 00:49:59,695 --> 00:50:01,175 during regular business hours 1066 00:50:01,435 --> 00:50:04,455 and on the county website speakers were limited 1067 00:50:04,635 --> 00:50:07,455 to three minutes each written testimony length, 1068 00:50:08,435 --> 00:50:09,975 but could be submitted on 1069 00:50:09,975 --> 00:50:12,295 before the hearing date to the county Commissioners. 1070 00:50:12,665 --> 00:50:15,095 While hearing sites are accessible, individuals 1071 00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:18,335 with disabilities sign language, interpreters 1072 00:50:18,395 --> 00:50:20,735 and system less than any systems are available. 1073 00:50:21,475 --> 00:50:24,695 For the record of this procedure will be a certificate 1074 00:50:24,695 --> 00:50:26,695 of publication indicating that notice 1075 00:50:27,705 --> 00:50:31,605 of the hearing was published for two successive weeks prior 1076 00:50:31,745 --> 00:50:34,765 to the lights hearing in the Bay Times record observer, 1077 00:50:36,025 --> 00:50:39,085 no one has signed up to testify. 1078 00:50:43,145 --> 00:50:44,285 Do you have anything you want to? 1079 00:50:44,395 --> 00:50:47,405 Yeah, first I'd like to say thanks 1080 00:50:47,405 --> 00:50:48,525 to our entire department. 1081 00:50:48,525 --> 00:50:51,685 This is kind of a full entire department kind of work, 1082 00:50:51,825 --> 00:50:53,885 so I'm gonna let Doug give the presentation, 1083 00:50:53,985 --> 00:50:55,365 but everyone I think in the office 1084 00:50:55,365 --> 00:50:56,645 deserves credit on this one. 1085 00:50:58,385 --> 00:51:00,645 All right, good evening, Doug Summers County planner. 1086 00:51:01,835 --> 00:51:03,565 This evening I just want to provide 1087 00:51:04,445 --> 00:51:07,885 a brief presentation on proposed Forest Conservation Act 1088 00:51:07,905 --> 00:51:10,405 update and text amendment 26 12. 1089 00:51:11,915 --> 00:51:14,125 Very quick background between 2019 1090 00:51:14,225 --> 00:51:17,845 and 2022, several state level legislative measures 1091 00:51:17,845 --> 00:51:20,645 and directives resulted in a comprehensive statewide 1092 00:51:20,705 --> 00:51:22,605 forest analysis and study. 1093 00:51:23,545 --> 00:51:25,165 Out of the study, two bills were passed 1094 00:51:25,225 --> 00:51:27,965 by the Maryland legislature in 23 and 24. 1095 00:51:28,785 --> 00:51:30,965 The legislation led to a policy shift 1096 00:51:31,025 --> 00:51:34,885 for the state from no net forest canopy loss to a net gain 1097 00:51:34,905 --> 00:51:35,965 of forest canopy. 1098 00:51:36,615 --> 00:51:39,205 These goals are to be met through a combination 1099 00:51:39,205 --> 00:51:41,365 of initiatives that include strengthening 1100 00:51:41,505 --> 00:51:43,205 of the Forest Conservation Act 1101 00:51:43,825 --> 00:51:46,245 and several other forest oriented programs 1102 00:51:46,245 --> 00:51:47,605 monitored at the state level. 1103 00:51:48,545 --> 00:51:50,205 The deadline for implementation 1104 00:51:50,425 --> 00:51:53,605 of the Forest Conservation Act code updates has been set 1105 00:51:53,625 --> 00:51:55,205 for July 1st by the state. 1106 00:51:59,225 --> 00:52:02,445 For the Forest Co Conservation Act applicability will remain 1107 00:52:02,445 --> 00:52:05,925 the same as it applies to site plans, subdivisions 1108 00:52:06,105 --> 00:52:07,805 and grading and sediment permits. 1109 00:52:08,215 --> 00:52:10,205 There are some changes to exemptions 1110 00:52:10,205 --> 00:52:12,365 that have been in introduced to include 1111 00:52:13,045 --> 00:52:15,285 reduction in the scope of inter-family transfers. 1112 00:52:16,035 --> 00:52:18,925 There's an exemption from a forest forestation requirements 1113 00:52:18,925 --> 00:52:20,045 for solar projects 1114 00:52:20,825 --> 00:52:23,085 and there's a few new exemptions related 1115 00:52:23,145 --> 00:52:25,685 to stream restoration and residential housing. 1116 00:52:26,945 --> 00:52:28,485 One of the biggest changes is a 1117 00:52:28,485 --> 00:52:30,165 one-to-one reforestation rate. 1118 00:52:30,385 --> 00:52:32,685 So essentially if you cut a tree, you have to plant a tree. 1119 00:52:33,865 --> 00:52:34,925 The only exception 1120 00:52:34,925 --> 00:52:37,205 to this standard would be within the growth area 1121 00:52:37,505 --> 00:52:41,005 and with multifamily housing projects in which the rate is 1122 00:52:41,005 --> 00:52:42,365 reduced to one half, to one 1123 00:52:43,595 --> 00:52:47,085 another substantial chain is riparian buffer requirements. 1124 00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:50,765 Any un forested riparian buffers on a property 1125 00:52:50,785 --> 00:52:54,445 that's falls under the Forest Conservation Act has to 1126 00:52:55,285 --> 00:52:58,365 a forest or reforest or that has a forest 1127 00:52:58,465 --> 00:53:01,925 or reforest requirements, would need to completely plant the 1128 00:53:02,705 --> 00:53:04,285 un forested length of their buffer. 1129 00:53:08,645 --> 00:53:11,645 A couple other additional changes include the county must 1130 00:53:11,645 --> 00:53:14,845 now approve any clearing within priority forest areas. 1131 00:53:16,215 --> 00:53:18,565 There have been new areas added to that list. 1132 00:53:19,265 --> 00:53:22,725 Public notification is required for all forest crop plans. 1133 00:53:23,985 --> 00:53:27,245 The forest stand delineation types have been expanded. 1134 00:53:28,565 --> 00:53:31,125 Judicial review process has been introduced at the state 1135 00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:33,525 level and there's been a proposed fee 1136 00:53:33,525 --> 00:53:34,605 and lie rate increase 1137 00:53:35,305 --> 00:53:36,925 to ensure the county meets state 1138 00:53:37,205 --> 00:53:38,525 mandated canopy requirements. 1139 00:53:39,525 --> 00:53:40,885 This rate has been aligned 1140 00:53:40,885 --> 00:53:42,845 with the current critical area rate eight. 1141 00:53:45,385 --> 00:53:47,165 So in preparation for these changes, 1142 00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:49,685 the planning department has been busy reviewing 1143 00:53:49,685 --> 00:53:52,085 and updating documentation on all forest 1144 00:53:52,085 --> 00:53:53,885 conservation easements in the county. 1145 00:53:55,145 --> 00:53:58,285 We have collaborated, collaborated with our GIS team 1146 00:53:58,625 --> 00:54:00,205 to create new environmental layers 1147 00:54:00,345 --> 00:54:02,565 and to map all existing easement areas. 1148 00:54:03,945 --> 00:54:06,365 The department has revised worksheets, checklists, 1149 00:54:06,425 --> 00:54:08,125 and other related legal documents 1150 00:54:08,465 --> 00:54:11,085 and the team has worked diligently drafting county code 1151 00:54:11,365 --> 00:54:14,805 language based on the state's ordinance and annotated code. 1152 00:54:16,725 --> 00:54:20,685 DNR has provided essentially approval on our language 1153 00:54:21,525 --> 00:54:24,125 and it received a planning com favorable planning 1154 00:54:24,125 --> 00:54:25,365 commission recommendation. 1155 00:54:26,665 --> 00:54:29,565 The last thing we did was evaluate those current fee in lieu 1156 00:54:29,565 --> 00:54:32,485 rates, which have remained unchanged since the mid nineties 1157 00:54:33,185 --> 00:54:35,045 to ensure they generate sufficient funding 1158 00:54:35,065 --> 00:54:36,925 to meet state mandated canopy goals. 1159 00:54:37,965 --> 00:54:39,645 While fee in lieu is typically only 1160 00:54:40,165 --> 00:54:42,485 accepted when all their priority measures have been 1161 00:54:42,485 --> 00:54:45,485 exhausted or cannot be reasonably met on site, 1162 00:54:45,715 --> 00:54:48,325 it's important that the rate accurately reflects the amount 1163 00:54:48,325 --> 00:54:50,045 needed to achieve the program goals. 1164 00:54:51,795 --> 00:54:54,045 This kind of, this includes the kind 1165 00:54:54,045 --> 00:54:57,925 of presentation at this time we seeking adoption of 26 12 1166 00:54:58,185 --> 00:55:02,445 to include a new technical manual and approval of any 1167 00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:04,365 or updated fee and lie rates. 1168 00:55:09,505 --> 00:55:10,645 Are there any public comments? 1169 00:55:10,755 --> 00:55:13,725 Anybody have any public comment with respect 1170 00:55:13,745 --> 00:55:15,805 to county moving 26 12. 1171 00:55:19,795 --> 00:55:23,445 Okay, any questions? No. Great work on this. No. 1172 00:55:24,345 --> 00:55:25,925 All righty. We hold it open for two. 1173 00:55:26,125 --> 00:55:28,605 I can note we are the first probably on the shore 1174 00:55:28,625 --> 00:55:30,405 to get this moving, so 1175 00:55:30,405 --> 00:55:32,485 that's also I think a thing that should be 1176 00:55:32,485 --> 00:55:33,485 Mentioned. 1177 00:55:33,485 --> 00:55:34,525 Well done. Very good. Yeah, very good. 1178 00:55:34,585 --> 00:55:37,925 We typically, we, we, we have always, we've always expected 1179 00:55:37,925 --> 00:55:41,405 that, I mean, I just assumed he just 1180 00:55:41,405 --> 00:55:42,565 put if he came in and said We're ninth. 1181 00:55:44,055 --> 00:55:48,005 Thank you. Yeah, we never want to be behind ban. 1182 00:55:48,225 --> 00:55:51,525 That's no doubt. You guys, you are for now. 1183 00:55:52,305 --> 00:55:53,305 Two or three more. 1184 00:55:54,865 --> 00:55:57,245 All right, thank you commissions. Thank you. 1185 00:55:57,515 --> 00:55:59,685 Alright, we have two more legislative 1186 00:55:59,685 --> 00:56:01,445 items for consideration tonight. 1187 00:56:02,195 --> 00:56:04,005 Item eight, pages six through 18. 1188 00:56:04,025 --> 00:56:07,205 We have county ordinance number 26 0 5 supplemental 1189 00:56:07,525 --> 00:56:08,525 standards for gas stations. 1190 00:56:09,025 --> 00:56:11,565 The objective of this ordinance is 1191 00:56:11,565 --> 00:56:13,485 to amend the required distance 1192 00:56:13,485 --> 00:56:15,485 and point of measurement from which entrance 1193 00:56:15,485 --> 00:56:17,845 and exit from a property that contains fuel pumps, 1194 00:56:17,845 --> 00:56:20,045 underground fuel storage, tanks and islands. 1195 00:56:20,805 --> 00:56:22,845 Canopies and, and canopies are required 1196 00:56:22,845 --> 00:56:24,085 to be from the intersection. 1197 00:56:24,385 --> 00:56:26,245 So that's the intent of this ordinance. 1198 00:56:26,245 --> 00:56:28,685 Another citizen sponsored text amendment, it is here 1199 00:56:28,745 --> 00:56:30,445 for your introduction 1200 00:56:30,985 --> 00:56:34,245 and I will say that the planning commission did not have a 1201 00:56:34,245 --> 00:56:35,885 favorable report on this particular 1202 00:56:35,955 --> 00:56:37,045 Yeah. Amendment. I'll, I'll 1203 00:56:37,045 --> 00:56:38,045 Introduce that one. 1204 00:56:38,045 --> 00:56:39,325 Okay, thank you commissioner. And I'll 1205 00:56:39,325 --> 00:56:40,325 Take the next one. 1206 00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:42,445 Okay. Alright, moving on. 1207 00:56:42,685 --> 00:56:46,045 Number nine, item nine pages 19 through 21. 1208 00:56:46,045 --> 00:56:47,885 This is county ordinance 26 0 6, 1209 00:56:48,355 --> 00:56:51,165 maximum impervious surface ratio in the Suburban 1210 00:56:51,165 --> 00:56:52,285 Commercial District. 1211 00:56:53,275 --> 00:56:54,645 Also, this was for introduction. 1212 00:56:54,985 --> 00:56:57,485 The intent of this text amendment is to increase the maximum 1213 00:56:57,585 --> 00:56:59,565 and impervious surface ratio for commercial 1214 00:56:59,585 --> 00:57:02,125 and industrial uses in the SC district 1215 00:57:02,555 --> 00:57:06,885 that were operating prior to December 31st, 2025 from 0.45, 1216 00:57:06,885 --> 00:57:09,605 45% to 0.80 80%. 1217 00:57:10,405 --> 00:57:11,645 I wanna reduce 26 0 6 1218 00:57:11,665 --> 00:57:14,725 and also I'll mention that this also did get an unfavorable 1219 00:57:14,725 --> 00:57:16,485 recommendation from the plan commission, those two. 1220 00:57:16,625 --> 00:57:19,205 So we'll have hearings for those two bills 1221 00:57:21,235 --> 00:57:22,235 June 30th. 1222 00:57:22,235 --> 00:57:25,245 June 30th. Okay. Alright. Thank you. 1223 00:57:26,235 --> 00:57:28,845 Alright, thank you both Stephanie and Mr. Thompson. 1224 00:57:29,445 --> 00:57:31,685 Excellent. So that concludes all the 1225 00:57:31,685 --> 00:57:32,885 legislative items for this evening. 1226 00:57:34,305 --> 00:57:35,685 We can move into the presentations 1227 00:57:35,685 --> 00:57:36,725 portion of the agenda now. 1228 00:57:37,165 --> 00:57:39,045 Absolutely. All right. So if you wanna turn 1229 00:57:39,045 --> 00:57:40,085 it over to tab number six. 1230 00:57:41,705 --> 00:57:45,005 Tab six, item one, item one, page one. 1231 00:57:45,005 --> 00:57:47,725 We have our friends for the motorcycle 1232 00:57:47,945 --> 00:57:49,245 safety awareness month. 1233 00:57:49,265 --> 00:57:50,525 And gentlemen, you wanna come on up. 1234 00:57:50,525 --> 00:57:54,525 We have Ken Eaton, executive director of Abate of Maryland 1235 00:57:54,625 --> 00:57:57,085 for Proclamation 26 0 9. 1236 00:57:57,145 --> 00:58:00,005 And please Ken, introduce your, your guests here. 1237 00:58:00,645 --> 00:58:05,485 I have with me today. Gloria Callie, a longtime member 1238 00:58:06,185 --> 00:58:07,285 of a Bay of Maryland 1239 00:58:07,465 --> 00:58:08,885 and resident here of Queen Annes County. 1240 00:58:08,945 --> 00:58:12,925 And Mark Ner also not quite as longtime member, but a while 1241 00:58:13,065 --> 00:58:15,725 and in a resident here in Queen S County. 1242 00:58:16,125 --> 00:58:17,445 Excellent. I'm also a resident, 1243 00:58:17,945 --> 00:58:19,525 but it's kind of like the air club for men. 1244 00:58:19,585 --> 00:58:21,725 I'm also the executive director for the state. 1245 00:58:24,915 --> 00:58:27,125 Alright. As a resident 1246 00:58:27,125 --> 00:58:28,285 of Queen Anne County would expect 1247 00:58:28,285 --> 00:58:29,445 nothing less from you that Right. 1248 00:58:32,225 --> 00:58:34,045 Do you want us to proclamation first 1249 00:58:35,105 --> 00:58:36,605 Or you guys I can, I can speak real quick. 1250 00:58:36,705 --> 00:58:38,405 Do your presentation. Yeah, I can speak real quick. 1251 00:58:38,605 --> 00:58:40,405 I don't have a formal presentation for you, 1252 00:58:40,505 --> 00:58:43,685 but May is Motorcycle Safety 1253 00:58:43,685 --> 00:58:46,005 and Awareness Month across the country. 1254 00:58:46,985 --> 00:58:50,085 So we joined together with organizations like ourselves 1255 00:58:50,185 --> 00:58:52,765 who are state motorcycle organizations or other clubs 1256 00:58:52,765 --> 00:58:55,685 and riding groups that go throughout the country requesting 1257 00:58:56,235 --> 00:58:57,685 proclamations such as this 1258 00:58:57,745 --> 00:59:00,405 and awareness events throughout the country so 1259 00:59:00,405 --> 00:59:01,685 that we can raise awareness 1260 00:59:02,505 --> 00:59:04,765 and safety concerns about motorcyclists. 1261 00:59:05,125 --> 00:59:08,165 And it's really not just about telling the car drivers 1262 00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:11,965 to look for us, it's about telling the motorcyclists 1263 00:59:12,105 --> 00:59:14,085 to make sure you're ready for your ride 1264 00:59:14,145 --> 00:59:15,965 and make sure that you follow all the rules 1265 00:59:15,985 --> 00:59:17,845 and regulations as well as the cars. 1266 00:59:18,025 --> 00:59:19,365 So we all wanna just share the road. 1267 00:59:20,845 --> 00:59:25,645 Tomorrow we'll have our last MVA branch 1268 00:59:26,155 --> 00:59:27,205 awareness event. 1269 00:59:27,265 --> 00:59:29,605 We did three across the state, one in Hagerstown, 1270 00:59:29,665 --> 00:59:31,925 one in Salisbury, and tomorrow we'll be in southern Maryland 1271 00:59:33,545 --> 00:59:36,805 having the MVA officials, Chrissy Nier will be there 1272 00:59:36,905 --> 00:59:37,965 and we'll have some of the local, 1273 00:59:38,355 --> 00:59:41,005 Just a brief description of, of that, 1274 00:59:41,115 --> 00:59:42,325 that event. One of them, 1275 00:59:43,285 --> 00:59:47,805 Really what we do is show up at the branches. 1276 00:59:48,985 --> 00:59:52,125 The motorcycle safety program from MDOT is there 1277 00:59:52,265 --> 00:59:54,165 and has some literature that they can share with people 1278 00:59:54,165 --> 00:59:57,685 to raise awareness for motorcyclists and, 1279 00:59:57,785 --> 01:00:01,645 and motorist a beta Maryland will have a table there so 1280 01:00:01,645 --> 01:00:04,365 that we can share what we do throughout the state. 1281 01:00:05,825 --> 01:00:08,565 The, like I said, Chrissy Niger will be there and, 1282 01:00:08,785 --> 01:00:13,725 and present some awards to, to basically a be 1283 01:00:13,725 --> 01:00:15,125 and other organizations will have some 1284 01:00:16,005 --> 01:00:17,725 regional politicians show up. 1285 01:00:17,795 --> 01:00:21,205 There's been a, a new law passed this year that we, 1286 01:00:21,265 --> 01:00:26,155 we helped with that added a question 1287 01:00:26,335 --> 01:00:27,755 to the pool of questions 1288 01:00:27,855 --> 01:00:30,035 for driver's licensing exams in Maryland. 1289 01:00:30,655 --> 01:00:35,175 So previously there's I think 130 plus 1290 01:00:35,255 --> 01:00:38,655 or minus questions that come are available in the pool of, 1291 01:00:39,195 --> 01:00:41,935 of licensing in general, not just motorcyclists in Maryland. 1292 01:00:42,865 --> 01:00:44,765 The law that got passed this year requires 1293 01:00:44,765 --> 01:00:46,125 that at least one question 1294 01:00:46,155 --> 01:00:48,685 that shows up on everyone's exam is about 1295 01:00:48,685 --> 01:00:49,885 motorcycle safety and awareness. 1296 01:00:51,065 --> 01:00:52,405 At least we got one in there 1297 01:00:53,825 --> 01:00:55,965 And there's no sense in trying to remember the other ones 1298 01:00:55,965 --> 01:00:57,805 because it probably won't appear on the test again. 1299 01:00:59,145 --> 01:01:03,165 You're right. But thank you very much for once again. 1300 01:01:03,395 --> 01:01:06,445 Sure. Recognizing Maya's Motorcycle and Safety 1301 01:01:06,445 --> 01:01:07,765 and Awareness Month here in Queen S County. 1302 01:01:07,785 --> 01:01:09,005 We really appreciate it. Awesome. 1303 01:01:10,575 --> 01:01:12,155 All right. Well I have the privilege of, 1304 01:01:12,255 --> 01:01:15,355 of reading the Proclamation 26 0 9, 1305 01:01:15,745 --> 01:01:18,515 whereas safety is our highest priority for the streets 1306 01:01:18,575 --> 01:01:19,835 and roadways of our county. 1307 01:01:20,535 --> 01:01:22,835 And whereas Queenan County is proud to be a supporter 1308 01:01:22,835 --> 01:01:25,715 of motorcycle safety, education and awareness 1309 01:01:26,375 --> 01:01:28,115 and whereas motorcycles are a common 1310 01:01:28,175 --> 01:01:29,675 and economical means of transportation 1311 01:01:30,265 --> 01:01:33,795 that reduces fuel consumption and roadway wear 1312 01:01:33,895 --> 01:01:38,155 and contributes to a significant way to the relief 1313 01:01:38,175 --> 01:01:40,315 of traffic parking congestion. 1314 01:01:41,015 --> 01:01:43,555 And whereas it's especially meaningful that the citizens 1315 01:01:43,555 --> 01:01:46,275 of county be aware of motorcycles on the roadways 1316 01:01:46,275 --> 01:01:48,515 and recognize the importance of motorcycle safety. 1317 01:01:49,335 --> 01:01:52,475 And whereas the members of the Midshore chapter of Abate 1318 01:01:52,815 --> 01:01:55,555 of Maryland Incorporated continually promote motorcycle 1319 01:01:55,575 --> 01:01:57,195 safety education 1320 01:01:57,195 --> 01:02:00,675 and awareness to the general public in our county and state. 1321 01:02:01,725 --> 01:02:04,505 And whereas all roadway users should unite in the safe 1322 01:02:04,855 --> 01:02:07,145 sharing of roads throughout Maryland. 1323 01:02:07,245 --> 01:02:09,785 And whereas we encourage all motorists 1324 01:02:09,925 --> 01:02:12,465 and citizens to join together in an effort 1325 01:02:12,465 --> 01:02:15,425 to improve the safety and awareness on our roadways. 1326 01:02:15,965 --> 01:02:18,105 Now therefore, WEA County commissioners 1327 01:02:18,105 --> 01:02:22,565 of Queen Anne County proclaim the month of May, 2026 to be 1328 01:02:23,575 --> 01:02:26,085 known as Motorcycle Safety Awareness month. 1329 01:02:27,665 --> 01:02:30,625 I gotta Dial this up a little bit here 1330 01:02:30,625 --> 01:02:31,265 for you real quick, 1331 01:02:35,805 --> 01:02:40,665 but my dentist is not watching this 1332 01:02:40,665 --> 01:02:43,305 just kind of helps secure it in your folder. 1333 01:02:45,945 --> 01:02:49,545 I think it's important, you know, you get this warm weather, 1334 01:02:49,545 --> 01:02:50,985 you're gonna see more riders out there 1335 01:02:51,405 --> 01:02:54,185 and unfortunately you have situations where somebody 1336 01:02:54,975 --> 01:02:57,025 made a bad decision one way or another 1337 01:02:57,245 --> 01:02:58,345 and somebody gets hurt. 1338 01:02:58,805 --> 01:03:00,905 So somebody used to ride. 1339 01:03:01,745 --> 01:03:04,625 I appreciate your efforts statewide. Here you go. 1340 01:03:04,995 --> 01:03:06,065 Thank you. Alright. 1341 01:03:06,725 --> 01:03:09,825 And my normal PSA do not put your 1342 01:03:09,825 --> 01:03:11,065 grass clippings in the road. 1343 01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:12,545 Oh my God. It's 1344 01:03:12,545 --> 01:03:13,945 Against Queen Ends county law. 1345 01:03:15,185 --> 01:03:17,065 I just wrote through some on what mark did you, 1346 01:03:17,625 --> 01:03:18,745 I yell at my neighbor all the time 1347 01:03:18,745 --> 01:03:20,105 and he goes back out and puts 'em up. 1348 01:03:20,165 --> 01:03:20,745 We don't get many 1349 01:03:20,745 --> 01:03:21,905 motorcycles down the road, but it's 1350 01:03:21,905 --> 01:03:23,185 important. People don't even realize it. 1351 01:03:23,245 --> 01:03:25,425 You want your cuttings to go back on your grass anyway. 1352 01:03:25,455 --> 01:03:27,105 Yeah, it's, it's healthier for the grass. 1353 01:03:27,295 --> 01:03:29,425 Yeah. I've stopped probably just the last two weeks, three 1354 01:03:29,425 --> 01:03:30,745 or four times telling people, you know, 1355 01:03:30,745 --> 01:03:33,945 it's against the law, you know, so we give, 1356 01:03:33,945 --> 01:03:34,945 Give their address. 1357 01:03:34,945 --> 01:03:37,945 I can send 'em a letter. Thank you very 1358 01:03:37,945 --> 01:03:39,025 much guys, for your efforts. 1359 01:03:39,025 --> 01:03:40,425 Thank you. Thanks again. Thank you. Yep. 1360 01:03:40,935 --> 01:03:42,185 Have fun. Be careful out there. 1361 01:03:42,715 --> 01:03:47,345 Thank you. Okay, 1362 01:03:47,345 --> 01:03:50,785 commissioners, our next presentation is from Katie Dilley, 1363 01:03:51,295 --> 01:03:52,585 make Your Behavioral Health. 1364 01:03:52,795 --> 01:03:56,465 She's the CEO Sarah Fegan Midshore Behavioral Health. 1365 01:03:56,635 --> 01:03:59,345 She's the BHC. That's our update. I believe we have. 1366 01:03:59,345 --> 01:04:01,065 Yeah, here it's up on the screen presentation. 1367 01:04:01,065 --> 01:04:04,665 It's also in your books on pages two through 36. Sir. 1368 01:04:04,685 --> 01:04:05,745 Tab six, item two. Oh wait, 1369 01:04:05,765 --> 01:04:06,825 We can click. Okay, great. 1370 01:04:06,895 --> 01:04:09,625 Come on up. Even Better. Hello? 1371 01:04:09,935 --> 01:04:13,265 Yeah, Sarah Good evening. Good evening. 1372 01:04:13,875 --> 01:04:16,265 Thank you for having us. Hello. 1373 01:04:16,445 --> 01:04:18,305 As you said, my name is Katie Dilley. 1374 01:04:18,705 --> 01:04:19,745 I have the pleasure of serving 1375 01:04:19,925 --> 01:04:22,185 as the Chief Executive Officer at Mitchell Behavioral 1376 01:04:22,185 --> 01:04:25,265 Health, and I'm joined this evening by Sarah Fagan. 1377 01:04:25,765 --> 01:04:27,545 Hi everybody. I'm Sarah Fagan, 1378 01:04:27,865 --> 01:04:29,345 behavioral health coordinator, child 1379 01:04:29,345 --> 01:04:30,705 adolescent, young adult population. 1380 01:04:32,205 --> 01:04:34,425 So we have presented a very involved 1381 01:04:35,315 --> 01:04:36,385 PowerPoint this evening. 1382 01:04:36,485 --> 01:04:38,425 We will move through it swiftly, so, 1383 01:04:39,325 --> 01:04:41,065 and if you have questions along the way, 1384 01:04:41,075 --> 01:04:42,225 we're happy to take them. 1385 01:04:43,065 --> 01:04:45,105 We just appreciate the opportunity to be here. 1386 01:04:45,135 --> 01:04:48,305 This is our annual presentation. 1387 01:04:48,925 --> 01:04:51,345 I'm excited that we could get on the calendar for the month 1388 01:04:51,345 --> 01:04:54,305 of May, given that it is Mental Health Awareness Month, 1389 01:04:55,595 --> 01:04:58,145 which this is the 77th year 1390 01:04:58,725 --> 01:05:00,745 of mental health awareness month. 1391 01:05:00,765 --> 01:05:04,145 So it's really an honor to be here during this time to 1392 01:05:05,015 --> 01:05:06,545 give you our annual update 1393 01:05:06,605 --> 01:05:10,905 and also ask for your support with our letter of agreement 1394 01:05:11,005 --> 01:05:12,065 to continue to serve 1395 01:05:12,165 --> 01:05:14,465 as your core service agency in the coming year. 1396 01:05:14,675 --> 01:05:19,015 Great. So just a a little bit about our 1397 01:05:19,015 --> 01:05:21,015 organization, I'm actually gonna kind 1398 01:05:21,015 --> 01:05:22,095 of move through these quickly. 1399 01:05:23,515 --> 01:05:27,335 One of our newer installments into our sort 1400 01:05:27,335 --> 01:05:31,095 of organizational infrastructure is really identifying 1401 01:05:31,195 --> 01:05:32,255 our core values. 1402 01:05:32,435 --> 01:05:35,055 So just in the last couple of years, we worked 1403 01:05:35,055 --> 01:05:38,415 with our board of directors to enhance not only our mission 1404 01:05:38,435 --> 01:05:41,775 and vision, but to identify integrity, collaboration, 1405 01:05:42,295 --> 01:05:44,535 progressive leadership, and a advocacy 1406 01:05:44,715 --> 01:05:48,855 as our four real pillars of our organizational values. 1407 01:05:51,205 --> 01:05:54,255 This year, I wanted to include just a snapshot. 1408 01:05:54,375 --> 01:05:57,335 Sometimes folks get a little confused in terms of 1409 01:05:57,335 --> 01:05:59,375 what exactly RA Behavioral Health does 1410 01:05:59,395 --> 01:06:01,135 and where we fit in the system of care. 1411 01:06:01,835 --> 01:06:03,935 We are not a direct service provider. 1412 01:06:04,555 --> 01:06:08,655 We are a regional organization that 1413 01:06:08,685 --> 01:06:12,855 that oversees the providers in, in the network of care 1414 01:06:13,195 --> 01:06:15,335 of mental health and substance use services. 1415 01:06:16,355 --> 01:06:19,735 We have the pleasure of, of receiving oversight 1416 01:06:19,735 --> 01:06:21,855 and guidance from the Maryland Department of Health, 1417 01:06:22,115 --> 01:06:23,655 the Behavioral health Administration, 1418 01:06:24,195 --> 01:06:27,095 and we also work very closely in collaboration with all five 1419 01:06:27,095 --> 01:06:30,695 of our health departments in the region to procure 1420 01:06:30,875 --> 01:06:33,175 and oversee that system of care. 1421 01:06:33,315 --> 01:06:35,615 So we thought it'd be helpful to bring 1422 01:06:35,615 --> 01:06:37,135 that image to you all. 1423 01:06:37,135 --> 01:06:39,855 Just to give a little bit more context to kind of 1424 01:06:39,855 --> 01:06:41,815 where we fit into the system 1425 01:06:41,835 --> 01:06:46,835 of care Annually. 1426 01:06:47,815 --> 01:06:52,115 We have grown fairly significantly over the years 1427 01:06:52,785 --> 01:06:55,035 with the amount of funding that we procure 1428 01:06:55,255 --> 01:06:58,235 and oversee that comes through our organization 1429 01:06:58,295 --> 01:07:00,515 and comes back out into the community. 1430 01:07:01,615 --> 01:07:06,155 So we have this past year, we are right around close 1431 01:07:06,155 --> 01:07:10,915 to 26 million in grant funds, both a combination of state 1432 01:07:10,935 --> 01:07:15,835 and federal dollars that we are responsible for overseeing 1433 01:07:16,055 --> 01:07:19,795 and monitoring that comes into the community of care. 1434 01:07:24,555 --> 01:07:27,455 So the services that are supported by those grant dollars, 1435 01:07:27,485 --> 01:07:28,855 this is a nice snapshot. 1436 01:07:28,855 --> 01:07:32,855 There are several that we oversee. 1437 01:07:33,295 --> 01:07:36,055 We've tried to break it out to be a little bit more, kind 1438 01:07:36,055 --> 01:07:37,575 of easy to digest. 1439 01:07:37,875 --> 01:07:42,215 So just some pockets of overarching services that we manage 1440 01:07:42,915 --> 01:07:44,375 are the crisis and wellness 1441 01:07:44,475 --> 01:07:46,455 and recovery services in the region. 1442 01:07:47,235 --> 01:07:50,255 We have funding that's specific for our adults 1443 01:07:50,555 --> 01:07:52,255 and our aging population. 1444 01:07:53,075 --> 01:07:56,055 We have funds that support our specialty populations. 1445 01:07:56,235 --> 01:07:59,895 For example, individuals that require interpretation 1446 01:08:00,115 --> 01:08:01,975 to receive behavioral health services. 1447 01:08:02,235 --> 01:08:05,495 We procure those dollars to clinicians in the region 1448 01:08:05,525 --> 01:08:07,135 that can provide that service. 1449 01:08:08,885 --> 01:08:13,585 We also are the regional core service, not in addition 1450 01:08:13,585 --> 01:08:16,285 to being the core service agency, the continuum of care. 1451 01:08:16,505 --> 01:08:19,205 So we oversee funding for homeless services 1452 01:08:19,385 --> 01:08:20,445 for all five counties, 1453 01:08:21,505 --> 01:08:23,805 and we manage the round table on homelessness. 1454 01:08:24,265 --> 01:08:27,205 So we do receive funds from the Department of Housing 1455 01:08:27,265 --> 01:08:29,645 and Community Development, as well as the Housing 1456 01:08:29,665 --> 01:08:32,805 and Urban Development federal organization. 1457 01:08:34,635 --> 01:08:38,375 We have expanded significantly in the last few years our 1458 01:08:38,375 --> 01:08:40,575 funds to support our child and adolescent 1459 01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:41,935 and young adult population. 1460 01:08:42,955 --> 01:08:45,895 And then one sort of niche program 1461 01:08:46,125 --> 01:08:48,055 that Midshore Behavioral Health does have. 1462 01:08:48,075 --> 01:08:51,055 And most of the local authorities, as in the state, do not 1463 01:08:52,115 --> 01:08:54,815 as, we have a specialized forensic mental health program 1464 01:08:54,945 --> 01:08:56,575 where we work with individuals 1465 01:08:56,575 --> 01:08:59,095 that are involved in the criminal justice system, 1466 01:08:59,645 --> 01:09:01,375 that have behavioral health needs. 1467 01:09:04,315 --> 01:09:06,855 And some of these services are not just five counties. 1468 01:09:07,395 --> 01:09:11,215 We do procure and oversee all nine counties of some funding. 1469 01:09:11,355 --> 01:09:14,215 For example, our state opioid response dollars. 1470 01:09:15,035 --> 01:09:18,895 We oversee that for all nine counties on the shore, as well 1471 01:09:18,895 --> 01:09:21,255 as funding for our crisis response system 1472 01:09:22,155 --> 01:09:23,655 and those program services. 1473 01:09:23,835 --> 01:09:25,495 So those, that's a little bit unique. 1474 01:09:26,595 --> 01:09:31,095 And we do closely work with all nine counties to make sure 1475 01:09:31,095 --> 01:09:33,535 that those services are doing what they're supposed to 1476 01:09:33,715 --> 01:09:34,735 and the communities. 1477 01:09:35,355 --> 01:09:38,775 But we are the primary responsible entity to oversee them. 1478 01:09:42,605 --> 01:09:44,565 A lot of opportunities to get involved. 1479 01:09:44,865 --> 01:09:46,405 For, for those of you here in the room 1480 01:09:46,405 --> 01:09:50,085 and those of you watching online, we have several spaces to, 1481 01:09:50,425 --> 01:09:54,565 to convene our providers as well as community members 1482 01:09:54,705 --> 01:09:56,725 and individuals with lived experience. 1483 01:09:57,825 --> 01:10:01,005 Our work groups are something that we're very known for. 1484 01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:05,565 We've added several over the years that really kind 1485 01:10:05,565 --> 01:10:08,245 of are specific to a population or a need. 1486 01:10:09,485 --> 01:10:11,085 A couple of newer groups 1487 01:10:11,155 --> 01:10:15,005 that we've brought into the fold recently is we have a group 1488 01:10:15,445 --> 01:10:19,925 specifically for our autism providers and autism resources 1489 01:10:20,625 --> 01:10:24,045 and a group that is on the horizon for the coming year 1490 01:10:24,065 --> 01:10:28,365 as we will be establishing a A veterans work group as well. 1491 01:10:32,145 --> 01:10:34,885 All righty. I'm gonna go through some regional highlights. 1492 01:10:36,185 --> 01:10:37,485 You can go to the next one. Yep. 1493 01:10:38,265 --> 01:10:40,245 I'm gonna start with crisis response highlights. 1494 01:10:41,115 --> 01:10:43,005 Eastern Shore Crisis Operation Center. 1495 01:10:43,185 --> 01:10:46,085 It, they provide frontline crisis support for nine counties. 1496 01:10:47,065 --> 01:10:51,685 In fiscal year 25, there were 8,435 calls that came in. 1497 01:10:52,185 --> 01:10:55,565 And then for fiscal year 26, just the first six months, 1498 01:10:55,565 --> 01:10:59,085 there were 3,671 that came in. 1499 01:11:00,295 --> 01:11:01,565 There was a crisis interv 1500 01:11:01,925 --> 01:11:03,805 intervention training that was facilitated. 1501 01:11:04,505 --> 01:11:07,885 And in fiscal year 25, 23 individuals were trained. 1502 01:11:07,945 --> 01:11:09,845 And then in six months, the first six months 1503 01:11:09,845 --> 01:11:11,805 of 26 30 individuals were trained. 1504 01:11:12,815 --> 01:11:15,405 We're also pushing out the 9 8 8 initiative a lot. 1505 01:11:16,185 --> 01:11:18,445 And this is through samhsa, it's the suicide 1506 01:11:18,445 --> 01:11:20,365 and crisis hotline. 1507 01:11:21,105 --> 01:11:23,525 You can receive, you can text, you can call. 1508 01:11:25,355 --> 01:11:26,925 It's really convenient for the youth especially. 1509 01:11:28,125 --> 01:11:30,265 What's the response time on that? Oh, 1510 01:11:30,965 --> 01:11:31,965 It can vary. 1511 01:11:31,965 --> 01:11:32,875 We're working on that. 1512 01:11:34,245 --> 01:11:35,945 Is is is texting faster? 1513 01:11:37,105 --> 01:11:40,185 I dunno, I don't know the statistics on the text response 1514 01:11:40,485 --> 01:11:42,065 if it's faster necessarily. 1515 01:11:42,585 --> 01:11:47,425 There are some hot, the hotline averages can vary. 1516 01:11:47,705 --> 01:11:52,225 I know that we have had some issues with how swiftly 1517 01:11:52,915 --> 01:11:54,305 calls have been responded to 1518 01:11:54,305 --> 01:11:55,865 and we're working with the administration 1519 01:11:55,965 --> 01:11:58,665 and also at the federal level to make, you know, try 1520 01:11:58,665 --> 01:11:59,905 to work out those kinks. 1521 01:12:02,025 --> 01:12:04,665 I don't know the answer in terms of the text versus call, 1522 01:12:04,665 --> 01:12:05,985 but we can follow up on that. 1523 01:12:07,505 --> 01:12:10,905 I do know that one thing that recently was reintroduced 1524 01:12:10,905 --> 01:12:14,545 to the 9 8 8 hotline was the press three option 1525 01:12:14,545 --> 01:12:15,905 that had been removed. 1526 01:12:17,165 --> 01:12:20,985 It is now back, which is the, the option for our individuals 1527 01:12:20,985 --> 01:12:25,265 that are L-G-B-T-Q or and 1528 01:12:25,365 --> 01:12:27,905 and have a call that's more in that nature 1529 01:12:28,255 --> 01:12:29,865 that they can press three, that 1530 01:12:29,895 --> 01:12:33,825 that option had been removed temporarily and it is back. 1531 01:12:34,645 --> 01:12:35,865 So that's a positive thing. 1532 01:12:36,165 --> 01:12:40,305 Did they remove the survey? The survey, 1533 01:12:40,305 --> 01:12:41,785 Every survey request at the end? 1534 01:12:42,585 --> 01:12:44,825 I don't think they'll be removing that necessarily. 1535 01:12:47,225 --> 01:12:49,325 But that is, you know, 9 8 8 is something 1536 01:12:49,325 --> 01:12:52,405 that is governed primarily from our federal partners. 1537 01:12:52,545 --> 01:12:56,765 And then we are at the local level work with hotlines that 1538 01:12:57,785 --> 01:12:59,485 are the provider of that service. 1539 01:12:59,665 --> 01:13:02,245 So we have two providers on the shore, 1540 01:13:02,345 --> 01:13:05,005 our primary hotline on the Shore's life crisis 1541 01:13:05,215 --> 01:13:06,525 based out of Salisbury. 1542 01:13:07,065 --> 01:13:11,325 And then affiliated Ante group manages the backup 9, 8, 8 1543 01:13:11,325 --> 01:13:12,925 lines for the shore. 1544 01:13:15,895 --> 01:13:17,755 So now we're gonna look at the mobile crisis 1545 01:13:17,865 --> 01:13:18,915 team dispatches. 1546 01:13:19,435 --> 01:13:20,635 That's a five year comparison. 1547 01:13:20,855 --> 01:13:23,755 The bottom line, the green line is Queen Anne County 1548 01:13:24,115 --> 01:13:27,515 specific fiscal year 25, there were 70 dispatches. 1549 01:13:27,895 --> 01:13:30,755 And so far for fiscal year 26 there have been 60. 1550 01:13:34,575 --> 01:13:36,755 And then there's also the mobile response 1551 01:13:36,755 --> 01:13:38,155 and stabilization services, 1552 01:13:38,205 --> 01:13:39,875 which is a little different from the regular, 1553 01:13:40,095 --> 01:13:41,715 if you just call it regular crisis number. 1554 01:13:43,055 --> 01:13:46,395 So this team is approximately eight weeks in duration. 1555 01:13:46,465 --> 01:13:49,155 They provide intensive services to children, adolescents, 1556 01:13:49,155 --> 01:13:50,155 and their support networks. 1557 01:13:50,495 --> 01:13:51,795 And this is available in eight 1558 01:13:51,815 --> 01:13:53,395 or six of the eastern shore counties. 1559 01:13:55,175 --> 01:13:56,555 And we recently have applied 1560 01:13:56,575 --> 01:13:57,835 for it to be in all of the counties. 1561 01:13:59,505 --> 01:14:04,475 There's some grant dollars. Yes. Okay. 1562 01:14:04,615 --> 01:14:07,795 So this is a newer program to Metro Behavioral Health 1563 01:14:07,895 --> 01:14:09,595 and as well as to the state of Maryland. 1564 01:14:09,775 --> 01:14:13,325 So the community support partnerships is funding 1565 01:14:13,355 --> 01:14:15,205 that has come through the out 1566 01:14:15,205 --> 01:14:17,845 of Maryland's blueprint dollars dollars 1567 01:14:17,985 --> 01:14:19,485 to be earmarked specifically 1568 01:14:19,705 --> 01:14:22,965 for our consortium on coordinated community supports, 1569 01:14:23,215 --> 01:14:25,765 which is funding for behavioral health service expansion 1570 01:14:25,765 --> 01:14:26,885 in our public schools. 1571 01:14:27,665 --> 01:14:30,165 So Queen Annes County has benefited 1572 01:14:30,165 --> 01:14:31,885 significantly from these dollars. 1573 01:14:32,445 --> 01:14:34,805 We've been able to grow your provider 1574 01:14:35,125 --> 01:14:36,645 networks substantially. 1575 01:14:36,825 --> 01:14:38,765 That's serving your youth in the schools. 1576 01:14:40,185 --> 01:14:43,045 And I have to say, Rachel Soff is here. 1577 01:14:43,045 --> 01:14:45,565 Rachel is our hub liaison. 1578 01:14:46,265 --> 01:14:50,485 So she is part of a two person team that is responsible 1579 01:14:50,485 --> 01:14:52,725 for overseeing and implementing this program. 1580 01:14:53,825 --> 01:14:56,965 We have a wonderful governing structure to make sure 1581 01:14:56,965 --> 01:15:00,085 that the services are doing what they have signed up to do 1582 01:15:00,545 --> 01:15:03,925 as well as an advisory council, which is comprised 1583 01:15:03,925 --> 01:15:07,325 of families as well as youth that have lived experience 1584 01:15:07,345 --> 01:15:08,605 and have received services. 1585 01:15:08,825 --> 01:15:10,285 So it's just remarkable. 1586 01:15:11,375 --> 01:15:14,165 We're very pleased that we've been able to secure 1587 01:15:14,865 --> 01:15:17,125 our grant moving forward this year. 1588 01:15:17,265 --> 01:15:19,205 So we're hopefully getting ready to 1589 01:15:19,745 --> 01:15:21,485 be contracting with our provider network. 1590 01:15:22,505 --> 01:15:24,645 And we do represent all five mature 1591 01:15:24,845 --> 01:15:26,085 counties with that funding. 1592 01:15:30,215 --> 01:15:31,295 I apologize. So 1593 01:15:31,565 --> 01:15:35,815 what is the 1025 students in the tier one through three? 1594 01:15:35,965 --> 01:15:37,495 Meaning the severity level? 1595 01:15:37,995 --> 01:15:39,735 No, those are the individuals that were served. 1596 01:15:40,785 --> 01:15:44,565 So a thousand students in Queen Annes County. 1597 01:15:46,105 --> 01:15:48,965 So they met with counselors. 1598 01:15:49,265 --> 01:15:52,125 Yep. Providers, yes. Provided by 1599 01:15:53,795 --> 01:15:54,795 Besu Behavioral? 1600 01:15:54,795 --> 01:15:56,165 No, no, we're not, not, we're not a provider. 1601 01:15:56,225 --> 01:15:59,565 We have Pro right. A provider network that is funded, who's 1602 01:15:59,565 --> 01:16:01,525 Our provider in the county. We 1603 01:16:01,525 --> 01:16:04,045 Have multiple, I think there's not nine 1604 01:16:04,905 --> 01:16:05,925 in Queen Annes County, 1605 01:16:06,075 --> 01:16:09,485 nine different groups serving the county provider groups. 1606 01:16:11,835 --> 01:16:14,055 Not all of them are funded through these dollars. 1607 01:16:14,065 --> 01:16:16,535 There were some in place that were, had contracts 1608 01:16:16,535 --> 01:16:18,215 with the schools already 1609 01:16:18,435 --> 01:16:20,335 before these dollars became available. 1610 01:16:20,525 --> 01:16:23,975 This is just allowed for those to those services 1611 01:16:24,115 --> 01:16:25,375 to expand greatly 1612 01:16:26,235 --> 01:16:29,095 and also include substance use services as well. 1613 01:16:31,455 --> 01:16:33,715 So it's been, it's been tremendous to see, 1614 01:16:34,015 --> 01:16:35,035 To see the impact. 1615 01:16:35,055 --> 01:16:36,755 So, so this portion, 1616 01:16:40,625 --> 01:16:43,805 how long have, has it been available? I mean, is it, 1617 01:16:43,975 --> 01:16:46,845 We're going into our third year of services. 1618 01:16:48,015 --> 01:16:51,005 These dollars had been earmarked in the 1619 01:16:51,005 --> 01:16:52,045 budget for several years. 1620 01:16:52,105 --> 01:16:55,165 It took a long time to figure out how to get them pushed out 1621 01:16:55,865 --> 01:16:57,325 and available into the counties. 1622 01:16:58,785 --> 01:17:02,165 We were selected as actually a pilot group. 1623 01:17:02,585 --> 01:17:05,485 So we were one of the first groups in the state to be able 1624 01:17:05,485 --> 01:17:08,165 to have these funds come into the counties, which is great. 1625 01:17:09,545 --> 01:17:11,845 So we're, we're a little ahead of the curve with that, 1626 01:17:12,685 --> 01:17:13,765 which has been wonderful. 1627 01:17:14,385 --> 01:17:17,205 The challenge is that the, the, that the need is so great 1628 01:17:17,305 --> 01:17:18,885 and, and the funds are somewhat 1629 01:17:18,885 --> 01:17:20,965 limited in the budget climate. 1630 01:17:21,185 --> 01:17:24,165 So we have had to do quite a bit of advocacy 1631 01:17:24,545 --> 01:17:26,365 to preserve this funding. 1632 01:17:27,445 --> 01:17:28,765 'cause the last thing we wanna do is 1633 01:17:28,765 --> 01:17:30,165 to see services that are working. 1634 01:17:30,235 --> 01:17:33,765 Well go away because, just because of the funding source. 1635 01:17:35,595 --> 01:17:38,295 So I'm, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. 1636 01:17:38,845 --> 01:17:41,455 It's a lot the nine different, they're not nine different. 1637 01:17:41,575 --> 01:17:43,055 I think there could be more than it might think. 1638 01:17:43,055 --> 01:17:46,815 It might actually be 12 total. I would like to get the exact 1639 01:17:46,815 --> 01:17:47,815 Numbers for you. 1640 01:17:47,815 --> 01:17:49,295 So 12 clinicians, but 12 different 1641 01:17:49,495 --> 01:17:51,015 Provider groups? Yes. 1642 01:17:51,635 --> 01:17:55,655 So it could be 50 25 or, I mean 1643 01:17:57,005 --> 01:17:58,095 He's talking about the, the number 1644 01:17:58,095 --> 01:17:59,815 of clinicians. Yeah. Oh, I, 1645 01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:02,415 I don't know how many clinicians that speaks to, 1646 01:18:02,555 --> 01:18:05,455 but there are, several 1647 01:18:05,475 --> 01:18:09,335 of the providers can provide services by way of telehealth. 1648 01:18:09,595 --> 01:18:12,015 So it really opens up a spectrum of a lot 1649 01:18:12,015 --> 01:18:13,935 of different providers to be available. 1650 01:18:14,875 --> 01:18:18,215 How many individual clinicians that supports, I 1651 01:18:18,745 --> 01:18:19,975 would have to look into that. 1652 01:18:20,095 --> 01:18:22,735 I don't know if we know that off the top of our head. No 1653 01:18:22,855 --> 01:18:23,855 Worries. 1654 01:18:23,855 --> 01:18:26,295 So a lot of the thousand 1655 01:18:27,495 --> 01:18:29,335 students could be weekly, 1656 01:18:30,555 --> 01:18:33,175 so they have like a weekly session at the 1657 01:18:33,175 --> 01:18:34,375 school? Am I understanding? 1658 01:18:34,395 --> 01:18:35,615 It could be, yeah. Yeah, it 1659 01:18:35,615 --> 01:18:36,615 Varies. 1660 01:18:36,615 --> 01:18:40,855 So Tuesday at 11 o'clock that, that's actually good. It's 1661 01:18:40,855 --> 01:18:41,855 Very good. 1662 01:18:41,855 --> 01:18:44,215 Yeah. And so it provides three tiers of services. 1663 01:18:44,355 --> 01:18:48,055 So there's sort of broad tier one, 1664 01:18:48,625 --> 01:18:51,575 which is more community and kind of educational 1665 01:18:51,675 --> 01:18:53,375 and sometimes can involve families. 1666 01:18:53,715 --> 01:18:56,335 And then as we move to up to tier three, which is really 1667 01:18:56,335 --> 01:18:59,895 that one-on-one where enhanced clinical support. 1668 01:19:00,475 --> 01:19:05,375 So we have in several different models 1669 01:19:05,435 --> 01:19:08,935 of care, evidence-based practices are supported under these 1670 01:19:08,935 --> 01:19:11,255 dollars and are actually required to be 1671 01:19:11,655 --> 01:19:13,935 provided to be eligible for the funding. 1672 01:19:14,035 --> 01:19:16,535 So there's been a lot of investment from the national center 1673 01:19:18,515 --> 01:19:19,815 to, to make sure that 1674 01:19:20,165 --> 01:19:23,895 what these dollars are supporting are going to vary quality 1675 01:19:25,295 --> 01:19:28,895 providers with refined skills that are, 1676 01:19:28,955 --> 01:19:30,735 are expected to be delivered. 1677 01:19:30,795 --> 01:19:32,935 So tier three is one on one more 1678 01:19:32,935 --> 01:19:33,495 Intensive? Yes. 1679 01:19:34,035 --> 01:19:35,775 And it could be virtual or in person. 1680 01:19:36,075 --> 01:19:39,485 Yep. Thank 1681 01:19:39,485 --> 01:19:40,485 You. 1682 01:19:40,485 --> 01:19:42,445 Yeah. And this is done in very close collaboration 1683 01:19:42,475 --> 01:19:44,965 with your, your leadership in the schools. 1684 01:19:46,025 --> 01:19:50,645 All the providers are vetted through your superintendent 1685 01:19:50,745 --> 01:19:51,885 and your mental health team. 1686 01:19:52,305 --> 01:19:55,445 And then we, we make sure to do all of sort 1687 01:19:55,445 --> 01:19:59,125 of the ground level monitoring and, and site visits 1688 01:19:59,385 --> 01:20:02,845 and ensuring that these providers are actually doing 1689 01:20:02,845 --> 01:20:06,285 what they've set out to do in their, in their proposals. 1690 01:20:07,705 --> 01:20:09,925 But it's a pretty complex procurement process. 1691 01:20:10,035 --> 01:20:12,725 They make a supply year, I can imagine year, year over year 1692 01:20:12,785 --> 01:20:16,525 for these dollars and a lot of administrative lift 1693 01:20:16,825 --> 01:20:18,445 to just make them available. 1694 01:20:19,965 --> 01:20:22,465 But that's our job and it's okay. That's what we do. 1695 01:20:23,395 --> 01:20:27,385 Great. I will say out of the first group of dollars 1696 01:20:27,455 --> 01:20:29,665 through the consortium funding, we were able 1697 01:20:29,665 --> 01:20:33,345 to earmark money to have a formal needs assessment done 1698 01:20:33,365 --> 01:20:35,185 for the region across the lifespan. 1699 01:20:35,325 --> 01:20:36,425 So that was wonderful 1700 01:20:36,425 --> 01:20:38,865 because those dollars would not be available given 1701 01:20:39,245 --> 01:20:40,385 the current budget climate. 1702 01:20:41,285 --> 01:20:43,745 So we did contract with an organization 1703 01:20:44,805 --> 01:20:48,505 called Do East Partners to partner with our organization 1704 01:20:48,685 --> 01:20:52,305 to do a full spread assessment, which actually 1705 01:20:52,885 --> 01:20:56,225 was this time last year coming to a close end, we wrapped up 1706 01:20:56,225 --> 01:20:59,345 that needs assessment at the end of June of fiscal year 25. 1707 01:21:00,565 --> 01:21:03,305 And wanted to highlight just a couple things that came out 1708 01:21:03,305 --> 01:21:06,985 of that assessment that are, may, may be of interest. 1709 01:21:07,085 --> 01:21:10,305 So no surprise that top two things 1710 01:21:10,375 --> 01:21:13,225 that showed up really across the board were, 1711 01:21:14,005 --> 01:21:17,745 or top three housing needs, mental health services 1712 01:21:17,885 --> 01:21:20,825 and transportation, which we know is a, 1713 01:21:20,945 --> 01:21:23,865 a very complex issue on the shore. 1714 01:21:26,135 --> 01:21:27,345 Lots of concerns just 1715 01:21:27,345 --> 01:21:29,265 around mental health and substance use. 1716 01:21:30,055 --> 01:21:33,345 Most counties in the mid shore reported concerns 1717 01:21:33,345 --> 01:21:35,465 around alcohol consumption as a primary 1718 01:21:36,385 --> 01:21:37,465 substance use concern. 1719 01:21:38,605 --> 01:21:41,785 So mind you, this is information that was reported 1720 01:21:42,085 --> 01:21:46,945 by community members so that that voice is so critical 1721 01:21:46,965 --> 01:21:47,985 to inform our work. 1722 01:21:48,165 --> 01:21:51,665 So really you're hearing straight from your community 1723 01:21:51,665 --> 01:21:53,585 members with these survey results. 1724 01:21:55,385 --> 01:21:58,125 We pulled out a couple things specific to behavioral health 1725 01:21:58,125 --> 01:22:01,085 that came up out of Queen Annes county residence. 1726 01:22:02,425 --> 01:22:07,045 So as I mentioned, that piece around alcohol was brought up. 1727 01:22:07,995 --> 01:22:10,645 Also just concerns around depression 1728 01:22:11,465 --> 01:22:14,205 and just mental health in general. 1729 01:22:15,625 --> 01:22:18,245 One thing that I think we're on a path 1730 01:22:18,385 --> 01:22:21,285 to see our provider network starting to grow 1731 01:22:21,345 --> 01:22:22,645 and get a little more traction 1732 01:22:22,795 --> 01:22:24,925 with infrastructure in the county. 1733 01:22:25,025 --> 01:22:29,925 But there that really there the ratio of residents 1734 01:22:30,105 --> 01:22:32,045 to provider availability in the 1735 01:22:32,045 --> 01:22:35,205 county is challenging. 1736 01:22:35,425 --> 01:22:38,485 So, you know, a lot of, we find that a lot 1737 01:22:38,485 --> 01:22:41,405 of members are going to neighboring counties 1738 01:22:41,665 --> 01:22:43,685 to receive services like Talbot County. 1739 01:22:44,505 --> 01:22:45,565 So we're working on that. 1740 01:22:45,565 --> 01:22:48,405 We've actually had quite a bit of movement in the last year, 1741 01:22:48,655 --> 01:22:52,445 especially with substance use providers of different forms, 1742 01:22:53,085 --> 01:22:55,045 different levels of care coming into the county. 1743 01:22:55,145 --> 01:22:56,725 So that's positive movement. 1744 01:23:00,625 --> 01:23:04,745 Alright. Alright. 1745 01:23:04,805 --> 01:23:06,285 So suicide prevention. 1746 01:23:06,525 --> 01:23:08,525 We have a Midshore Suicide coalition 1747 01:23:08,585 --> 01:23:10,405 and this is in partnership with Channel Marker. 1748 01:23:11,065 --> 01:23:13,405 The goal is to provide education and awareness. 1749 01:23:15,125 --> 01:23:16,525 A few events 1750 01:23:16,825 --> 01:23:18,485 and I'll just put 1751 01:23:18,485 --> 01:23:22,605 forward Events. 1752 01:23:22,605 --> 01:23:24,565 We'll just start with the events. So we had Kevin Hines, 1753 01:23:24,585 --> 01:23:26,445 if you guys have ever heard of him. 1754 01:23:26,505 --> 01:23:27,925 He had a Stay Alive presentation. 1755 01:23:28,655 --> 01:23:31,525 We've established the Lethal, a Lethal Means subcommittee 1756 01:23:32,705 --> 01:23:33,805 out of the Darkness Walk. 1757 01:23:34,265 --> 01:23:37,365 And then they were having a community event at the Queen 1758 01:23:37,365 --> 01:23:39,085 AIDS County YMCA on June 5th. 1759 01:23:39,085 --> 01:23:43,125 And that's from four to seven bridging our community 1760 01:23:43,765 --> 01:23:44,885 building hope and connection. 1761 01:23:45,905 --> 01:23:47,805 It, it's going to focus on youth wellness 1762 01:23:48,105 --> 01:23:49,445 and there is gonna be a presentation 1763 01:23:49,445 --> 01:23:51,205 by Matt Reynolds, if you've ever heard of him. 1764 01:23:51,395 --> 01:23:55,045 Yeah. He's in an internationally known speaker, a gentleman 1765 01:23:55,045 --> 01:23:57,365 with lived experience, actually a survivor of suicide. 1766 01:23:57,515 --> 01:23:58,845 Same with Kevin Hines. So Right. 1767 01:23:58,905 --> 01:24:02,165 And his, his niche is really working with, with students. 1768 01:24:02,865 --> 01:24:05,125 So we're excited to welcome him here at the, 1769 01:24:05,225 --> 01:24:07,005 at the Y here in Centerville next week. 1770 01:24:07,505 --> 01:24:10,165 That's great. Alright. 1771 01:24:13,705 --> 01:24:15,605 And there's some more on suicide prevention. 1772 01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:17,325 This is in regards to gun safety. 1773 01:24:17,865 --> 01:24:19,605 During fiscal year 26, 1774 01:24:19,685 --> 01:24:22,405 Midshore Behavioral Health initiated a firearm 1775 01:24:22,505 --> 01:24:23,925 safety and awareness campaign. 1776 01:24:24,805 --> 01:24:26,605 I mentioned earlier, crisis intervention training. 1777 01:24:27,445 --> 01:24:30,245 There's been over 900 gun locks and safe distributed 1778 01:24:32,265 --> 01:24:37,005 and then there's some data right there comparing deaths 1779 01:24:37,005 --> 01:24:38,965 by firearms versus other lethal means. 1780 01:24:39,305 --> 01:24:42,685 And in Maryland there were 599 suicide deaths. 1781 01:24:43,405 --> 01:24:45,165 45% of those involved firearms. 1782 01:24:45,165 --> 01:24:47,845 And that's up 1.8% from 2022 1783 01:24:52,505 --> 01:24:53,805 and then going purple together. 1784 01:24:53,905 --> 01:24:55,325 We host this every year. 1785 01:24:56,185 --> 01:24:58,405 We switch around the counties, you know, to try 1786 01:24:58,405 --> 01:25:00,485 to include everybody and make it accessible. 1787 01:25:01,115 --> 01:25:03,325 This past year, September 27th, 1788 01:25:03,385 --> 01:25:05,445 it was at the Churchill Park here in Queen Anne County. 1789 01:25:06,125 --> 01:25:08,685 There was approximately 40 community resource vendors 1790 01:25:08,745 --> 01:25:10,165 and 150 attendees. 1791 01:25:10,435 --> 01:25:13,365 This is a really, really fun event that families 1792 01:25:13,365 --> 01:25:15,965 and kids are invited to and it truly really is fun. 1793 01:25:16,195 --> 01:25:19,165 It's a great way to bring awareness to this topic. 1794 01:25:25,295 --> 01:25:28,225 This one, You want me to do this? Yeah. Okay. 1795 01:25:28,525 --> 01:25:30,785 So the Rural Advancement of Maryland Peers, 1796 01:25:30,815 --> 01:25:34,145 this is a new program that we just received grant dollars 1797 01:25:34,455 --> 01:25:36,905 through the Department of Labor to support. 1798 01:25:37,545 --> 01:25:40,505 This is really highlighting our workforce 1799 01:25:40,885 --> 01:25:44,465 and our peer support network, getting them trained 1800 01:25:44,605 --> 01:25:45,945 and certified to be able 1801 01:25:45,945 --> 01:25:47,825 to get into the behavioral health workforce. 1802 01:25:48,475 --> 01:25:51,665 Since this, they are recognized for incredible work 1803 01:25:52,445 --> 01:25:56,265 and the training is off, often cumbersome and expensive. 1804 01:25:56,445 --> 01:25:59,985 So we have secured these dollars for the next two years 1805 01:26:00,205 --> 01:26:03,345 to hopefully train 15 individuals 1806 01:26:03,445 --> 01:26:04,925 to become certified peer support 1807 01:26:04,925 --> 01:26:06,205 specialists, which is great. 1808 01:26:07,185 --> 01:26:08,565 We are also working closely 1809 01:26:08,595 --> 01:26:11,205 with the Eastern Shore Area Health Education Center. 1810 01:26:11,205 --> 01:26:12,645 They also receive some dollars 1811 01:26:13,515 --> 01:26:15,165 through this grant opportunity. 1812 01:26:15,225 --> 01:26:16,885 So we'll be doing some things in 1813 01:26:16,885 --> 01:26:18,045 close partnership with them. 1814 01:26:21,135 --> 01:26:22,915 I'm gonna jump through a couple of these just 1815 01:26:23,035 --> 01:26:24,875 'cause I'd like to get to more Queen Annes County 1816 01:26:25,475 --> 01:26:27,035 specific highlights. 1817 01:26:28,135 --> 01:26:30,395 One thing I will share, these are sort 1818 01:26:30,395 --> 01:26:32,395 of high level highlights. 1819 01:26:33,565 --> 01:26:34,755 We've been doing a lot of work 1820 01:26:35,625 --> 01:26:39,915 with your leadership in the judici judiciary space here in 1821 01:26:39,915 --> 01:26:42,795 the county in partnership with Kent County. 1822 01:26:43,655 --> 01:26:47,515 We meet monthly, we're looking at doing a potentially a 1823 01:26:47,515 --> 01:26:48,955 pilot diversion project, 1824 01:26:49,675 --> 01:26:51,355 which we actually just submitted a grant 1825 01:26:51,495 --> 01:26:53,635 for hopefully getting funding for that today 1826 01:26:54,985 --> 01:26:59,075 that would support individuals that are in a need 1827 01:26:59,175 --> 01:27:01,875 of mental health support that are in detention 1828 01:27:02,135 --> 01:27:05,435 to have an alternative location to either 1829 01:27:06,355 --> 01:27:07,355 complete their sentence time 1830 01:27:07,455 --> 01:27:12,155 or just have some stabilization during their detention. 1831 01:27:13,215 --> 01:27:16,355 So fingers crossed. But we've done a lot of great work. 1832 01:27:16,915 --> 01:27:18,315 I know that Judge c Cville 1833 01:27:18,375 --> 01:27:22,075 and Judge Knight, we're also piloting a project 1834 01:27:22,165 --> 01:27:25,355 where we are receiving with the permission 1835 01:27:25,355 --> 01:27:29,235 of the petitioners, anyone who is filing 1836 01:27:29,375 --> 01:27:32,515 for an emergency petition for an indi, a loved one 1837 01:27:32,535 --> 01:27:34,395 or a person in their neighborhood 1838 01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:37,995 or a friend, that we are getting a referral to follow up 1839 01:27:37,995 --> 01:27:39,315 with that support network 1840 01:27:39,575 --> 01:27:43,595 to offer our services when someone is in need of that level 1841 01:27:43,615 --> 01:27:45,595 of emergency petition intervention. 1842 01:27:45,815 --> 01:27:49,435 So that's a new initiative we started within the last 1843 01:27:49,435 --> 01:27:51,755 quarter and it's been very successful. 1844 01:27:57,825 --> 01:27:59,955 Okay. Just a couple of our signature events. 1845 01:28:00,975 --> 01:28:04,275 We annually host a sequential intercept model 1846 01:28:04,835 --> 01:28:06,035 mapping conference. 1847 01:28:06,135 --> 01:28:08,195 We have done this for the last 14 years. 1848 01:28:09,175 --> 01:28:11,875 That's looking at how individuals move in 1849 01:28:11,875 --> 01:28:13,995 and out of the, the criminal justice system 1850 01:28:14,015 --> 01:28:16,715 and where we can divert them from incarceration. 1851 01:28:18,295 --> 01:28:19,915 We just hosted our, 1852 01:28:20,795 --> 01:28:23,715 I guess it was our 15th annual across the lifespan 1853 01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:24,995 conference I wanna say. 1854 01:28:26,615 --> 01:28:28,795 And this year's focus was suicide prevention 1855 01:28:28,795 --> 01:28:30,195 across the lifespan. 1856 01:28:30,895 --> 01:28:33,555 And as Sarah mentioned, we are looking forward 1857 01:28:33,555 --> 01:28:35,355 to our going Purple event, which 1858 01:28:35,535 --> 01:28:37,235 of course is coming up in September. 1859 01:28:39,135 --> 01:28:41,475 Oh, I don't know what just happened. Sorry. 1860 01:28:42,295 --> 01:28:47,075 Speedy. This year we had a couple of new 1861 01:28:47,755 --> 01:28:50,595 signature events that were folding into our 1862 01:28:51,365 --> 01:28:52,755 other events that we put on. 1863 01:28:52,855 --> 01:28:55,675 We are doing Good Samaritan law training in the counties. 1864 01:28:56,115 --> 01:28:57,155 We just got some funding 1865 01:28:57,175 --> 01:28:58,875 to do this specifically in the coming 1866 01:28:58,875 --> 01:29:00,115 year in Caroline County. 1867 01:29:00,225 --> 01:29:02,045 This year we did it in Talbot. 1868 01:29:02,745 --> 01:29:05,245 And we have a workforce excellence program 1869 01:29:05,355 --> 01:29:08,965 that we've started out of our continuum of care leadership 1870 01:29:09,835 --> 01:29:13,765 that has another class coming up here in Caroline County. 1871 01:29:13,785 --> 01:29:15,085 We started down in Dorchester. 1872 01:29:15,185 --> 01:29:17,925 So we're moving that program through the counties. 1873 01:29:21,145 --> 01:29:23,805 And of course we love a good visit from our state 1874 01:29:23,805 --> 01:29:25,085 partners and colleagues. 1875 01:29:25,145 --> 01:29:27,045 So this is just kind of highlighting a couple 1876 01:29:27,045 --> 01:29:29,005 of visits we hosted over the last year. 1877 01:29:29,185 --> 01:29:31,565 We had the leadership of the consortium, 1878 01:29:31,775 --> 01:29:34,165 which we just touched on in the National Center 1879 01:29:34,185 --> 01:29:36,885 for School Mental Health came in August. 1880 01:29:38,465 --> 01:29:41,445 We had our partners through the Office of Prevention 1881 01:29:41,445 --> 01:29:44,725 and Promotion through BHA visit us at our across the 1882 01:29:44,725 --> 01:29:45,845 lifespan conference. 1883 01:29:47,065 --> 01:29:48,845 We have strong relationships 1884 01:29:48,905 --> 01:29:50,805 and partnerships through the Maryland Office 1885 01:29:50,825 --> 01:29:54,005 of Overdose Response and that work. 1886 01:29:54,005 --> 01:29:57,805 We've touched on the governor's office for crime control 1887 01:29:57,825 --> 01:29:59,525 and prevention and policy. 1888 01:29:59,745 --> 01:30:02,925 That's something that the state is really putting a lot 1889 01:30:02,925 --> 01:30:05,565 of attention behind is just how we're meeting the needs 1890 01:30:05,625 --> 01:30:06,805 of individuals 1891 01:30:06,805 --> 01:30:09,205 that get involved in the criminal justice system. 1892 01:30:11,245 --> 01:30:12,545 So let's turn it back over to Sierra. 1893 01:30:14,365 --> 01:30:16,745 So some Queen Anne County highlights already 1894 01:30:16,745 --> 01:30:17,825 mentioned the going purple. 1895 01:30:19,415 --> 01:30:21,025 Each county is a local care team. 1896 01:30:21,425 --> 01:30:23,305 I attend Queen Anne County local care team. 1897 01:30:24,275 --> 01:30:25,865 Katie is the board president 1898 01:30:25,865 --> 01:30:27,865 of the Queen Anne County Local Management Board. 1899 01:30:29,195 --> 01:30:30,225 Let's see. We work very closely 1900 01:30:30,255 --> 01:30:32,545 with the Queen Anne County Local Addictions Authority. 1901 01:30:35,105 --> 01:30:38,985 I already said the forensic mental health team participates 1902 01:30:38,985 --> 01:30:40,785 in the Queen Anne County Problem Solving court. 1903 01:30:41,365 --> 01:30:44,065 And we just did a volunteer day at Queenstown Landing, 1904 01:30:44,235 --> 01:30:46,465 which was in Queen Anne County, which was really fun. 1905 01:30:46,825 --> 01:30:48,545 We did bingo, karaoke was a hit 1906 01:30:49,305 --> 01:30:51,025 veterans group, all sorts of stuff. 1907 01:30:52,805 --> 01:30:54,945 We tried to alternate counties with our volunteer day too. 1908 01:30:55,005 --> 01:30:59,025 So, okay. 1909 01:30:59,055 --> 01:31:00,945 Some new initiatives on the horizon. 1910 01:31:02,125 --> 01:31:06,185 You may have heard that Maryland passed legislation 1911 01:31:06,205 --> 01:31:08,545 to adopt an assisted outpatient treatment program. 1912 01:31:09,165 --> 01:31:12,945 The Eastern Shore is part of a pilot one group, 1913 01:31:14,085 --> 01:31:17,145 or phase one group, I should say, for 1914 01:31:17,775 --> 01:31:19,065 rollout of this program. 1915 01:31:19,405 --> 01:31:22,465 So it's all nine counties of the Eastern Shore, along 1916 01:31:22,465 --> 01:31:23,585 with Anne Arundel County. 1917 01:31:23,585 --> 01:31:27,785 Baltimore City are scheduled to go live on July 1st 1918 01:31:28,255 --> 01:31:30,705 with implementing assisted outpatient treatment. 1919 01:31:31,615 --> 01:31:34,145 There's been a lot of work that's gone into this, 1920 01:31:35,205 --> 01:31:37,985 but there's still a lot that we don't know 1921 01:31:38,155 --> 01:31:40,585 until the program really gets off the ground. 1922 01:31:40,935 --> 01:31:45,545 This would allow for an additional opportunity for 1923 01:31:46,085 --> 01:31:49,865 family members or loved ones are concern concerned community 1924 01:31:49,865 --> 01:31:53,265 members to file an order to 1925 01:31:55,415 --> 01:31:58,665 have an individual be engaged in their outpatient treatment 1926 01:31:58,665 --> 01:32:01,205 for their, their beha, serious and persistent mental health. 1927 01:32:01,355 --> 01:32:03,325 This is just for adults. 1928 01:32:03,675 --> 01:32:05,805 There's a lot of requirements 1929 01:32:05,825 --> 01:32:08,565 and criteria to be eligible to receive an order. 1930 01:32:10,305 --> 01:32:13,085 The shore, we are hoping to have at least 1931 01:32:13,825 --> 01:32:15,685 two care coordinating teams. 1932 01:32:16,785 --> 01:32:18,725 We haven't gotten confirmation on 1933 01:32:18,725 --> 01:32:19,925 that from the administration, 1934 01:32:20,105 --> 01:32:23,365 but as soon as we know who our care coordinating teams are 1935 01:32:23,465 --> 01:32:26,125 for individuals that have an assisted outpatient treatment 1936 01:32:26,125 --> 01:32:29,085 order, we will certainly be working closely with them. 1937 01:32:31,745 --> 01:32:34,005 And our rural health transformation program. 1938 01:32:34,545 --> 01:32:36,405 So the competitive funding 1939 01:32:36,545 --> 01:32:38,725 for the behavioral health service expansion dollars, 1940 01:32:38,835 --> 01:32:40,365 were due today at 2:00 PM 1941 01:32:40,945 --> 01:32:44,525 and I'm glad that to say that, that we submitted. 1942 01:32:44,585 --> 01:32:45,925 So we put in a few, 1943 01:32:47,365 --> 01:32:49,365 I think really interesting transformative 1944 01:32:49,715 --> 01:32:51,005 partnership requests. 1945 01:32:51,505 --> 01:32:52,965 So holding hope there. 1946 01:32:53,765 --> 01:32:56,205 Those dollars have a lot of different 1947 01:32:57,435 --> 01:32:58,645 initiatives tied to them. 1948 01:32:58,705 --> 01:33:00,445 But of course behavioral health is the one 1949 01:33:00,445 --> 01:33:01,685 that we're focusing on. 1950 01:33:01,785 --> 01:33:05,285 So we have some three priority areas around mobile, 1951 01:33:05,545 --> 01:33:08,765 mobile treatment expansion, suicide prevention, 1952 01:33:08,785 --> 01:33:11,045 and as well as our diversion initiatives. 1953 01:33:11,045 --> 01:33:15,765 So we're, we'll see, we'll hopefully here over the summer 1954 01:33:16,585 --> 01:33:20,845 if we've been able to have those dollars be awarded. 1955 01:33:27,035 --> 01:33:29,445 Okay. And then here we have some statistics. 1956 01:33:29,935 --> 01:33:31,445 These are Medicaid claims. 1957 01:33:32,385 --> 01:33:35,965 So mental health consumers was 1,655. 1958 01:33:36,295 --> 01:33:38,565 Queen Anne County represents 16 1959 01:33:38,705 --> 01:33:41,685 or represented 16.2% of the mid shore individuals. 1960 01:33:42,105 --> 01:33:45,565 And then for substance use, it was 769 consumers 1961 01:33:46,285 --> 01:33:48,045 with the highest utilization areas. 1962 01:33:48,305 --> 01:33:51,725 Mental health, it was outpatient services, 95%. 1963 01:33:51,725 --> 01:33:55,205 And then for substance use, it was labs, which was 68%. 1964 01:33:59,265 --> 01:34:01,565 And then this is the point in time count. 1965 01:34:01,675 --> 01:34:04,565 This is through the continuum of care, 1966 01:34:04,565 --> 01:34:06,085 the Homelessness Prevention Services 1967 01:34:06,085 --> 01:34:07,085 that Katie mentioned earlier. 1968 01:34:07,585 --> 01:34:09,885 So the point in time is a count of sheltered 1969 01:34:09,885 --> 01:34:12,525 and unsheltered people experiencing homelessness on 1970 01:34:12,525 --> 01:34:13,765 a single night in January. 1971 01:34:15,865 --> 01:34:18,285 HUD requires that they do an annual count. 1972 01:34:18,545 --> 01:34:22,245 So this year it was 27 sheltered, which would be emergency 1973 01:34:22,465 --> 01:34:25,085 or emergency shelter or transitional housing. 1974 01:34:25,225 --> 01:34:27,445 And then one unsheltered, which is a place 1975 01:34:27,445 --> 01:34:30,765 that's literally not met for a person to live in. 1976 01:34:36,145 --> 01:34:37,885 And we just thank you for your support 1977 01:34:40,425 --> 01:34:42,125 and this is how you can get ahold of us. 1978 01:34:42,385 --> 01:34:43,765 If you have any questions, we're happy 1979 01:34:43,765 --> 01:34:45,605 to take additional questions as well. 1980 01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:49,245 That was very comprehensive. Thank you. 1981 01:34:49,415 --> 01:34:50,645 Thank you. We didn't even read it all. 1982 01:34:50,645 --> 01:34:51,965 That's a great report. No, it's a lot 1983 01:34:51,965 --> 01:34:54,645 of information we appreciate. We appreciate your time. It 1984 01:34:54,645 --> 01:34:55,645 Is a lot. 1985 01:34:55,645 --> 01:34:56,645 I don't know how you keep it straight. 1986 01:34:59,425 --> 01:35:02,645 Yes. Alright. We also have the fiscal year 2027 letter 1987 01:35:02,645 --> 01:35:03,765 of agreement for Right. 1988 01:35:03,765 --> 01:35:05,045 Your consideration tonight as well. 1989 01:35:05,195 --> 01:35:06,405 It's an action item. Tell Oh 1990 01:35:06,405 --> 01:35:07,405 Yeah. 1991 01:35:07,405 --> 01:35:10,285 Yes. Great presentation. Oh, thank you. Very good. 1992 01:35:10,885 --> 01:35:13,845 $168 million Rural Health Transfer 1993 01:35:14,545 --> 01:35:16,825 Transformation grant. 1994 01:35:16,825 --> 01:35:19,745 That was due today or the paperwork was due today. 1995 01:35:20,375 --> 01:35:21,385 Does that, that's 1996 01:35:21,385 --> 01:35:24,305 For the pillar two, the 160 eight's broken up 1997 01:35:24,375 --> 01:35:25,465 into some clumps. 1998 01:35:25,495 --> 01:35:28,905 Only eight. Only 16 million of it is for behavioral health. 1999 01:35:31,565 --> 01:35:34,225 Is any of that going towards can be used 2000 01:35:34,345 --> 01:35:37,785 for the $5 million MA match for the USDA? 2001 01:35:39,605 --> 01:35:41,185 No, it can't be used for that. 2002 01:35:42,055 --> 01:35:45,785 It's federal. Federal funds. Yeah. Oh, I know. 2003 01:35:45,835 --> 01:35:47,265 Can't use federal to match federally. 2004 01:35:51,365 --> 01:35:53,785 So I Are you speaking? 2005 01:35:54,965 --> 01:35:56,905 Are you, I can you want me to? 2006 01:35:57,445 --> 01:36:00,345 You're just addressing your email from the other day. 2007 01:36:00,975 --> 01:36:02,105 Yeah. Come on up Bryce. Yeah. 2008 01:36:10,235 --> 01:36:13,295 Can you kinda lay that out for, for us? 2009 01:36:14,475 --> 01:36:15,475 I'm Sorry. Could 2010 01:36:15,475 --> 01:36:16,735 You kinda lay that out for us? 2011 01:36:16,805 --> 01:36:19,455 What your thoughts are on the cross? 2012 01:36:19,795 --> 01:36:22,055 Was it crossroads at, in Dorchester? 2013 01:36:22,995 --> 01:36:24,935 Oh, so short. So Katie 2014 01:36:24,935 --> 01:36:25,935 and I have been talking about 2015 01:36:25,935 --> 01:36:27,655 what other options there might be for use 2016 01:36:27,655 --> 01:36:29,855 of this USDA funding for youth services. 2017 01:36:31,015 --> 01:36:32,615 I had met with the USDA team 2018 01:36:32,915 --> 01:36:36,015 and also had discussions with the congressman's office on 2019 01:36:36,965 --> 01:36:39,135 what truly the parameters of that funding are. 2020 01:36:39,135 --> 01:36:40,615 If there's any flexibility in there, 2021 01:36:40,675 --> 01:36:42,575 if the PHP stuff doesn't work out. 2022 01:36:44,385 --> 01:36:47,935 Katie and I had a meeting with the CEO Kara, what, 2023 01:36:48,235 --> 01:36:50,535 two weeks ago, Carol Morris, a couple weeks ago. 2024 01:36:51,605 --> 01:36:55,975 They are looking to build a, a outpatient center per se 2025 01:36:56,635 --> 01:36:59,015 for mental health services out of Cambridge. 2026 01:36:59,355 --> 01:37:01,335 And they were looking for additional capital funds 2027 01:37:01,435 --> 01:37:02,815 to complete that facility. 2028 01:37:02,835 --> 01:37:04,495 And there's a number of services that 2029 01:37:05,365 --> 01:37:07,735 will fulfill services across the lifespan 2030 01:37:07,995 --> 01:37:09,455 to include youth services and, 2031 01:37:09,455 --> 01:37:11,015 and according to the USDA team, 2032 01:37:11,085 --> 01:37:13,375 that sounds like it's a possibility as long 2033 01:37:13,375 --> 01:37:16,175 as we're addressing youth mental health needs in the region. 2034 01:37:17,195 --> 01:37:20,135 And they would start serving, I think around age. 2035 01:37:20,495 --> 01:37:21,775 I think it was five years old enough. Five. 2036 01:37:21,775 --> 01:37:26,695 Yep. So is it essentially a, it's, it's, is it, 2037 01:37:27,165 --> 01:37:28,695 it's not A-P-P-H-P. 2038 01:37:28,765 --> 01:37:29,695 It's more of a, 2039 01:37:35,085 --> 01:37:37,585 you go in for an hour and then you, you have therapy 2040 01:37:37,925 --> 01:37:38,925 And you leave. 2041 01:37:38,925 --> 01:37:40,305 It's not partial hospitalization. No. 2042 01:37:40,365 --> 01:37:44,065 But they would have multiple levels of care available there. 2043 01:37:44,065 --> 01:37:46,385 But partial hospitalization is not one of them. 2044 01:37:46,645 --> 01:37:47,705 And and what would they be, 2045 01:37:48,495 --> 01:37:50,425 what would be the I don't have the, the care, 2046 01:37:50,745 --> 01:37:51,905 I don't have their, I don't have the full list, 2047 01:37:51,905 --> 01:37:55,805 full proposal, but it was what PRP outpatient 2048 01:37:55,805 --> 01:37:57,125 Mental Health. Outpatient mental health. 2049 01:37:57,425 --> 01:38:00,045 And to do some, I think some education and training. 2050 01:38:00,075 --> 01:38:03,325 They're gonna have an industrial kitchen there 2051 01:38:03,425 --> 01:38:06,165 and hopefully do some, some sort of 2052 01:38:06,165 --> 01:38:07,165 Life skills. 2053 01:38:07,165 --> 01:38:08,005 Does it have to be built in Cambridge? 2054 01:38:08,005 --> 01:38:09,045 Could it be built in Easter? 2055 01:38:09,105 --> 01:38:10,565 That's something that's been in the Queen County. 2056 01:38:10,705 --> 01:38:12,165 That's something that's been in the works 2057 01:38:12,215 --> 01:38:13,445 since before COVID 2058 01:38:14,585 --> 01:38:16,085 To to do it there in Cambridge. 2059 01:38:16,085 --> 01:38:17,285 Yeah. Do they have another, they have 2060 01:38:17,285 --> 01:38:18,605 another facility that way they 2061 01:38:18,605 --> 01:38:20,005 Have a facility right here in your 2062 01:38:20,205 --> 01:38:21,765 backyard in Centerville. 2063 01:38:22,995 --> 01:38:26,015 Is it being utilized as well as the new place could be. 2064 01:38:26,115 --> 01:38:27,215 Oh yes. That, that's a provider 2065 01:38:27,215 --> 01:38:28,415 that serves all five counties. 2066 01:38:32,025 --> 01:38:35,445 So I know there's a lot of specific information that's 2067 01:38:35,725 --> 01:38:37,565 provided in the correspondence as well. 2068 01:38:37,645 --> 01:38:39,205 I didn't bring any of that with me. 'cause 2069 01:38:39,325 --> 01:38:41,485 I That's okay. That's 2070 01:38:41,485 --> 01:38:42,485 All right. 2071 01:38:42,485 --> 01:38:45,125 It's just an option for your consideration. Yeah. And yeah, 2072 01:38:45,125 --> 01:38:46,365 There's, and you know, other things 2073 01:38:46,365 --> 01:38:50,475 to consider is maybe looking at extending it 2074 01:38:50,475 --> 01:38:54,755 to more than one provider, if that was an option, 2075 01:38:54,935 --> 01:38:57,715 or if there's a provider that might need vehicles. 2076 01:38:58,295 --> 01:38:59,355 And then we talked about that. 2077 01:38:59,625 --> 01:39:01,355 Yeah, the USDA team was pretty clear 2078 01:39:01,355 --> 01:39:03,635 that the capital funding could be used for vehicles. 2079 01:39:03,695 --> 01:39:05,235 Any capital equipment tied to that. 2080 01:39:05,235 --> 01:39:06,595 If there was specific, for example, 2081 01:39:06,855 --> 01:39:08,515 on a lab equipment that you might want. 2082 01:39:09,965 --> 01:39:11,595 There was a lot of flexibility there. 2083 01:39:11,775 --> 01:39:14,835 But the, the, the key is the operational piece. 2084 01:39:15,135 --> 01:39:17,155 And of course, the match is still a concern. 2085 01:39:18,255 --> 01:39:20,515 Can a provider or somebody else meet 2086 01:39:20,515 --> 01:39:24,195 that match the 25% match that's required by USDA? 2087 01:39:27,765 --> 01:39:32,385 So is is universal Maryland completely out 2088 01:39:32,385 --> 01:39:37,065 of the picture for the, the second floor of the ER 2089 01:39:37,885 --> 01:39:40,225 at Cambridge to be a PHP? 2090 01:39:40,495 --> 01:39:41,545 That is my understanding. 2091 01:39:42,205 --> 01:39:43,545 But they're, they're exploring 2092 01:39:43,545 --> 01:39:46,105 how they can expand their outpatient services 2093 01:39:47,725 --> 01:39:50,105 to also support the entire lifespan. 2094 01:39:50,165 --> 01:39:53,105 But the partial hospitalization is not something 2095 01:39:53,105 --> 01:39:54,465 that right now they're looking at, 2096 01:39:54,735 --> 01:39:57,705 they're looking at expanding their intensive outpatient 2097 01:39:57,855 --> 01:40:01,745 treatment program as well as reestablishing the hope is 2098 01:40:01,745 --> 01:40:05,705 to reestablish their bridge clinic, which 2099 01:40:06,705 --> 01:40:08,185 I don't wanna speak on behalf of Shore 2100 01:40:08,305 --> 01:40:09,585 Regional, but, so And when you say 2101 01:40:09,585 --> 01:40:10,945 intensive, do you mean inpatient? 2102 01:40:11,245 --> 01:40:13,025 No, you mean intensive outpatient? 2103 01:40:13,205 --> 01:40:17,015 Yes, intensive outpatient to include providing that 2104 01:40:17,035 --> 01:40:18,535 for children and adolescents. 2105 01:40:18,535 --> 01:40:20,855 Right now they have intensive outpatient, 2106 01:40:20,955 --> 01:40:22,615 but it only serves adults. 2107 01:40:22,635 --> 01:40:26,215 Adults. But they are looking to expand it to serve youth, 2108 01:40:27,765 --> 01:40:29,785 but that's not partial hospitalization. 2109 01:40:30,765 --> 01:40:33,585 The complexity with partial hospitalization is the 2110 01:40:33,775 --> 01:40:38,065 requirement to provide education to have school 2111 01:40:39,415 --> 01:40:42,775 provided while youth are attending the PHP. 2112 01:40:42,875 --> 01:40:45,975 So youth, PHP is a much harder service 2113 01:40:46,195 --> 01:40:48,015 to lift up. 2114 01:40:48,635 --> 01:40:50,655 So right now, my understanding is that's not 2115 01:40:50,655 --> 01:40:51,855 what they're entertaining. 2116 01:40:52,245 --> 01:40:53,245 It's not the priority. 2117 01:40:53,345 --> 01:40:54,605 And to add to that, 2118 01:40:55,355 --> 01:40:56,845 they don't need capital funding for that. 2119 01:40:56,845 --> 01:40:58,725 Right. The facility in Cambridge is set up 2120 01:40:58,725 --> 01:41:00,165 to accommodate something like that. 2121 01:41:00,275 --> 01:41:03,555 Yeah. Where we're, our hands are kind of tied 2122 01:41:03,555 --> 01:41:05,795 with this USDA funding for capital funding. 2123 01:41:10,415 --> 01:41:13,595 Now of course, there could be creative ways to put it out 2124 01:41:13,615 --> 01:41:17,995 for interest so providers could respond. 2125 01:41:19,475 --> 01:41:22,875 I think we were just trying to provide you some options 2126 01:41:22,975 --> 01:41:26,715 of current capital projects that we know are underway. 2127 01:41:31,805 --> 01:41:33,755 Thank you. Sure. Appreciate it. 2128 01:41:34,225 --> 01:41:36,275 Yeah, appreciate all you do. Seriously. 2129 01:41:36,985 --> 01:41:38,555 It's a, it's a tough job. 2130 01:41:39,665 --> 01:41:40,915 Well, we have good partners 2131 01:41:42,455 --> 01:41:43,715 and we appreciate your support. 2132 01:41:44,005 --> 01:41:45,515 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 2133 01:41:45,515 --> 01:41:47,275 Appreciate the presentation. Thank 2134 01:41:47,275 --> 01:41:48,275 You. 2135 01:41:48,655 --> 01:41:50,035 All righty. We get a Motion with it? 2136 01:41:50,145 --> 01:41:51,235 Sign the letter. Yeah, 2137 01:41:51,675 --> 01:41:56,515 I make a motion to sign the letter for FY 27. 2138 01:41:56,645 --> 01:41:58,955 Great support. Second. 2139 01:41:59,735 --> 01:42:02,515 Got a motion. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? 2140 01:42:02,615 --> 01:42:04,035 So moved. Thank you. Thank you. 2141 01:42:04,175 --> 01:42:05,595 You Thank you. Thank you. 2142 01:42:13,695 --> 01:42:15,595 All right, commissioners, we can move into the 2143 01:42:15,615 --> 01:42:16,875 action items for this evening. 2144 01:42:16,875 --> 01:42:18,755 First we have from the Department of Public works, 2145 01:42:18,755 --> 01:42:22,475 under tab number two we have one item, pages one 2146 01:42:22,475 --> 01:42:24,235 through seven item one pages one through seven. 2147 01:42:24,235 --> 01:42:26,275 This is for the Board of Education administration building 2148 01:42:27,025 --> 01:42:30,715 over at the Vincent on Vincent Street Lot 19 B. 2149 01:42:31,375 --> 01:42:33,635 And this is a, a plat 2150 01:42:33,635 --> 01:42:35,595 and a deed of dedication to transfer 2151 01:42:35,705 --> 01:42:39,075 that particular 4.7 acre parcel of land. 2152 01:42:39,175 --> 01:42:41,955 Or the new board of education administration building is now 2153 01:42:43,035 --> 01:42:45,715 occupied by the board of Ed over to the board 2154 01:42:45,715 --> 01:42:47,315 of Education members. 2155 01:42:47,375 --> 01:42:48,515 And that's a traditional thing. 2156 01:42:48,615 --> 01:42:50,515 So Lee Edgar's here if you have any questions about 2157 01:42:50,515 --> 01:42:51,675 that, but that's a transfer. 2158 01:42:51,945 --> 01:42:55,115 I'll also mention too, that we did just receive notification 2159 01:42:55,225 --> 01:42:57,515 from the Maryland IAC. 2160 01:42:57,515 --> 01:43:00,075 They voted to approve the transfer of their former 2161 01:43:00,595 --> 01:43:03,235 headquarters down on Chesterfield Avenue back 2162 01:43:03,235 --> 01:43:04,715 to the county commissioners. 2163 01:43:05,295 --> 01:43:07,835 So they're working through some miscellaneous details, 2164 01:43:07,895 --> 01:43:11,155 but that'll be coming back our way here in the 2165 01:43:11,155 --> 01:43:12,235 next month or so. 2166 01:43:12,615 --> 01:43:16,355 That's right. I move 2167 01:43:16,355 --> 01:43:17,995 to execute the de transferring ownership 2168 01:43:17,995 --> 01:43:20,915 of lot 19 B adjacent to one 15 Vincent Street Center 2169 01:43:20,915 --> 01:43:22,915 of Maryland to the Board of Education of Queen Annes County. 2170 01:43:23,135 --> 01:43:25,675 Second, we have a motion. Second. Any discussion? 2171 01:43:26,345 --> 01:43:29,045 Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye a. 2172 01:43:29,145 --> 01:43:31,325 Aye. Opposed? One absent. 2173 01:43:34,305 --> 01:43:35,735 Thank you commissioners. Thank you. Alright, 2174 01:43:35,735 --> 01:43:36,735 Thank you commissioners. 2175 01:43:36,735 --> 01:43:37,815 Thank you Lee. Thanks for being here. 2176 01:43:37,815 --> 01:43:39,895 Next meeting will be daytime, right? That's 2177 01:43:39,895 --> 01:43:41,695 Right. Thank you. 2178 01:43:42,195 --> 01:43:44,255 That's right. All right, commissioners, 2179 01:43:44,255 --> 01:43:47,055 we got some action items to cover here this evening as well. 2180 01:43:47,695 --> 01:43:49,095 They're under tab number three. 2181 01:43:50,315 --> 01:43:54,445 So if you wanna flip to tab number three, item one, 2182 01:43:54,445 --> 01:43:55,485 pages one through 10. 2183 01:43:55,595 --> 01:43:58,485 This is a petition to intervene in Maryland Public Service 2184 01:43:58,485 --> 01:44:00,565 Commission case number 9 8 6 8. 2185 01:44:01,345 --> 01:44:04,405 So there's been an application filed for a certificate 2186 01:44:04,405 --> 01:44:08,245 of public convenience to construct three co-located solar 2187 01:44:08,845 --> 01:44:12,725 generating facilities totaling 9.98 megawatts. 2188 01:44:13,525 --> 01:44:17,005 This is on 6 74 acres of property just outside here 2189 01:44:17,065 --> 01:44:21,805 of Centerville on adjacent to the 3 0 1 3 0 4 interchange. 2190 01:44:22,225 --> 01:44:25,205 It is within the town's growth area 2191 01:44:25,705 --> 01:44:28,165 and the town of Centerville's tier two growth area. 2192 01:44:29,235 --> 01:44:31,725 This is a clear attempt 2193 01:44:31,905 --> 01:44:35,285 to circumvent standards found in both Maryland code public 2194 01:44:35,285 --> 01:44:38,165 utilities codes and our zoning code 2195 01:44:38,585 --> 01:44:40,405 and our planning staff has recommended 2196 01:44:40,405 --> 01:44:42,525 that we intervene in this particular case 2197 01:44:42,755 --> 01:44:46,525 because it's inconsistent with the spirit of all of our 2198 01:44:47,135 --> 01:44:49,925 objectives here with solar projects. 2199 01:44:51,575 --> 01:44:54,135 I moved to file a petition to intervene in the application 2200 01:44:54,135 --> 01:44:57,495 of TPE MD QA 15 2201 01:44:57,615 --> 01:45:01,575 A-L-L-C-T-P-E-M-D, QA 15 BLLC 2202 01:45:01,595 --> 01:45:06,415 and TPE MD QA 15 C-L-L-L-C for a certificate 2203 01:45:06,415 --> 01:45:07,935 of public convenience and necessity 2204 01:45:08,435 --> 01:45:11,535 to construct three co loaded solar voltaic generating 2205 01:45:11,535 --> 01:45:13,375 facilities totaling 9.98 2206 01:45:13,375 --> 01:45:14,895 megawatt in Queen Anne County, Maryland. 2207 01:45:14,925 --> 01:45:16,615 Case number 9 8 6 8 2208 01:45:17,235 --> 01:45:18,235 Second. 2209 01:45:18,235 --> 01:45:19,775 We have a motion to second any discussion. 2210 01:45:20,675 --> 01:45:22,495 Oh, what do you begin, right? Yeah. 2211 01:45:25,805 --> 01:45:29,295 Yeah. Amy, give the Reader's Digest version 2212 01:45:29,315 --> 01:45:32,335 of what's going on here broadly and, 2213 01:45:32,335 --> 01:45:33,695 but this case specifically in 2214 01:45:33,695 --> 01:45:34,855 Queen Annes County, if you could, 2215 01:45:35,635 --> 01:45:39,695 The concern with this case, and the reason that I've come 2216 01:45:39,695 --> 01:45:44,655 before you with this request to intervene, is the fear 2217 01:45:44,655 --> 01:45:47,495 of the precedent that would be set by not 2218 01:45:48,655 --> 01:45:52,575 directly interacting with the CPCN process at this point. 2219 01:45:53,975 --> 01:45:57,555 When 9 31, 2220 01:45:57,615 --> 01:46:02,075 the Renewable Energy Act was passed last year and we had to 2221 01:46:02,265 --> 01:46:06,035 accordingly update our solar provisions. 2222 01:46:07,725 --> 01:46:10,785 We all kind of came in line with 2223 01:46:12,185 --> 01:46:17,045 the siting standards as outlined through that legislation. 2224 01:46:18,115 --> 01:46:21,485 Basically utility scale solar is 2225 01:46:22,595 --> 01:46:25,965 permitted to be cited in accordance with those standards. 2226 01:46:26,105 --> 01:46:30,795 And community solar projects are 2227 01:46:31,465 --> 01:46:35,475 have a lighter standard since the update of our code 2228 01:46:35,735 --> 01:46:37,875 and since the approval of 2229 01:46:39,375 --> 01:46:41,395 the renewable energy legislation, 2230 01:46:41,925 --> 01:46:45,435 we've predominantly seen community scale solar projects. 2231 01:46:45,975 --> 01:46:49,565 We have not seen utility scale projects like we had seen 2232 01:46:49,775 --> 01:46:52,645 prior to Senate Bill 9 31. 2233 01:46:53,635 --> 01:46:55,645 This bill rather, 2234 01:46:55,755 --> 01:47:00,645 this proposal is located at the intersection of Route 3 0 1 2235 01:47:00,645 --> 01:47:04,965 and 3 0 4 and it is in the town's designated growth area. 2236 01:47:05,885 --> 01:47:10,325 Tier two. During the negotiation of 2237 01:47:10,955 --> 01:47:14,285 that legislation last year, we successfully 2238 01:47:16,265 --> 01:47:19,445 put a prohibition on major 2239 01:47:20,295 --> 01:47:22,765 solar development within the town's growth areas. 2240 01:47:23,675 --> 01:47:28,325 What this project is, is a combination of three 2241 01:47:29,015 --> 01:47:32,325 co-located community solar projects 2242 01:47:32,835 --> 01:47:37,285 that in its entirety basically constitutes 2243 01:47:37,965 --> 01:47:40,885 a major utility scale project. 2244 01:47:41,865 --> 01:47:46,205 So what I did was put that 2245 01:47:46,785 --> 01:47:51,365 in writing to the public service commission, that I found 2246 01:47:51,435 --> 01:47:55,165 that the application as submitted 2247 01:47:55,785 --> 01:47:59,365 was a pretty clear attempt to circumvent some 2248 01:47:59,365 --> 01:48:03,365 of the key standards that were negotiated in very 2249 01:48:04,155 --> 01:48:07,245 long and hard fought battles 2250 01:48:07,465 --> 01:48:09,765 during the previous legislative session. 2251 01:48:10,505 --> 01:48:12,125 And I really called upon, 2252 01:48:12,875 --> 01:48:15,445 hopefully the Public Service Commission to, 2253 01:48:16,025 --> 01:48:18,725 to make some kind of a determination as to whether 2254 01:48:18,745 --> 01:48:21,605 or not they also were going to deal with 2255 01:48:21,915 --> 01:48:23,245 what looked like a complete, 2256 01:48:23,725 --> 01:48:26,645 a clear circumvention of the standards. I mean, 2257 01:48:26,645 --> 01:48:28,205 This is blatant, I mean, 2258 01:48:29,165 --> 01:48:32,725 I felt that it was, and I felt that 2259 01:48:33,285 --> 01:48:36,485 I had enough legal ground through consultation 2260 01:48:36,485 --> 01:48:41,325 with our planning attorney to put in writing that when 2261 01:48:41,865 --> 01:48:44,485 it lands in the county, we would treat it as 2262 01:48:45,705 --> 01:48:48,165 one comprehensive major 2263 01:48:49,255 --> 01:48:52,405 solar energy generating system rather than three separate 2264 01:48:52,835 --> 01:48:54,525 community solar projects. 2265 01:48:54,585 --> 01:48:58,805 So in an attempt to get a determination on 2266 01:48:59,085 --> 01:49:02,205 that very interpretation that 2267 01:49:03,775 --> 01:49:06,245 would be applicable to any other project 2268 01:49:06,395 --> 01:49:09,365 that we might see in any of our growth areas, 2269 01:49:11,065 --> 01:49:13,805 and also wanting to make sure 2270 01:49:13,805 --> 01:49:17,725 that we're following the letter of the law as 2271 01:49:18,545 --> 01:49:21,325 was dictated to us through the last legislative session, 2272 01:49:21,465 --> 01:49:22,565 we wanna make sure that 2273 01:49:22,565 --> 01:49:25,485 that interpretation is also going to be supported. 2274 01:49:26,795 --> 01:49:28,765 Because my concern is that 2275 01:49:29,305 --> 01:49:31,485 we might see other applications like this 2276 01:49:32,025 --> 01:49:35,285 or other applications that I haven't thought of yet 2277 01:49:35,755 --> 01:49:39,005 that are also circumventing some of those standards. 2278 01:49:40,355 --> 01:49:42,365 Yeah, you, you take a 400 acre farm 2279 01:49:42,385 --> 01:49:45,005 and you just do 40 10 acre solar projects, 2280 01:49:45,005 --> 01:49:46,445 you still have a 400 acre farm 2281 01:49:46,445 --> 01:49:47,845 of solar at the end of the day. 2282 01:49:47,945 --> 01:49:51,245 But like we, it circumvents our personal property tax on 2283 01:49:51,245 --> 01:49:53,805 utility grade solar, which goes back to farm preservation. 2284 01:49:54,905 --> 01:49:58,445 Not to mention Kent County has a project over there 2285 01:49:58,445 --> 01:49:59,525 that was developed into solar. 2286 01:49:59,715 --> 01:50:02,445 That was their last piece of priority growth area 2287 01:50:02,445 --> 01:50:05,125 that had water and sewer to it. 2288 01:50:05,385 --> 01:50:07,685 So they solar, they lost it, they put solar there. 2289 01:50:08,475 --> 01:50:10,525 This is a priority growth area for Centerville. 2290 01:50:10,625 --> 01:50:13,205 We we're having all these conversations about moratoriums 2291 01:50:13,205 --> 01:50:14,245 and we won't be able to build on the island. 2292 01:50:14,255 --> 01:50:15,685 We're gonna have to build into towns. 2293 01:50:15,685 --> 01:50:17,645 But then we're, if we take that town land 2294 01:50:17,665 --> 01:50:19,445 and put solar on it, we can't build on it, 2295 01:50:19,445 --> 01:50:20,805 which is where we would have to build. 2296 01:50:20,985 --> 01:50:22,925 So there's a lot of things going on here 2297 01:50:22,925 --> 01:50:25,405 that are just bad about all this honestly. 2298 01:50:25,705 --> 01:50:30,325 And the town did submit a letter, so we submitted a letter 2299 01:50:30,465 --> 01:50:32,045 and the town of Centerville did 2300 01:50:32,045 --> 01:50:35,405 likewise in accordance with the complete list, 2301 01:50:35,455 --> 01:50:38,125 deter the completeness determination deadline, 2302 01:50:38,125 --> 01:50:42,005 which the public utility law judge established the 2303 01:50:42,005 --> 01:50:44,045 application was found to be complete. 2304 01:50:44,625 --> 01:50:48,765 But as a result of the letters that were submitted, 2305 01:50:48,895 --> 01:50:51,965 there was a request that the applicant submit a brief 2306 01:50:52,595 --> 01:50:55,805 that addresses the points that were raised in our letter. 2307 01:50:56,985 --> 01:51:01,085 And this intervention is meant to, if we intervene, 2308 01:51:01,945 --> 01:51:06,405 we will have an opportunity to al also submit a brief in, 2309 01:51:06,785 --> 01:51:08,885 in the deadline that is established 2310 01:51:08,905 --> 01:51:10,605 by the public utility law judge. 2311 01:51:10,665 --> 01:51:11,685 So I think it's important 2312 01:51:11,745 --> 01:51:14,085 to be engaged in that conversation. 2313 01:51:14,465 --> 01:51:18,965 And the town of Centerville is considering intervening 2314 01:51:18,985 --> 01:51:21,005 as well, but they, 2315 01:51:21,215 --> 01:51:23,605 their council does not meet until next week. 2316 01:51:25,725 --> 01:51:28,335 Very well. We have a motion and a second. 2317 01:51:28,555 --> 01:51:31,215 Any further discussion? Seeing none. 2318 01:51:31,215 --> 01:51:34,055 All those in favor signify saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? 2319 01:51:34,525 --> 01:51:36,055 Abstained. So moved. 2320 01:51:38,075 --> 01:51:40,525 Alright. Thank you Amy. Thank you commissioners. 2321 01:51:41,585 --> 01:51:44,405 Our next item, item two pages 11 and 12. 2322 01:51:45,225 --> 01:51:46,765 We have drafted a resolution number 2323 01:51:46,765 --> 01:51:48,685 26 0 7 for your consideration. 2324 01:51:48,685 --> 01:51:52,725 This is to initiate a temporary moratorium on the approval 2325 01:51:52,785 --> 01:51:55,365 or processing of applications for data centers. 2326 01:51:56,755 --> 01:51:59,525 This has been a big issue around the state of Maryland. 2327 01:51:59,725 --> 01:52:01,925 I think there's at least six other jurisdictions 2328 01:52:01,925 --> 01:52:06,125 that are considering similar pauses for development activity 2329 01:52:06,145 --> 01:52:09,605 for data centers, for obvious reasons, their energy usage 2330 01:52:09,785 --> 01:52:12,965 and necessity for large, large areas and farms. 2331 01:52:12,965 --> 01:52:16,165 So this is a, would be an effort for us to work 2332 01:52:16,245 --> 01:52:17,525 with the zoning team and draft 2333 01:52:17,545 --> 01:52:20,445 and craft appropriate designations 2334 01:52:20,625 --> 01:52:23,045 and standards for this type of use. 2335 01:52:23,545 --> 01:52:25,565 In, in Queen County, we really don't have anything 2336 01:52:25,565 --> 01:52:28,645 that fits the, the mold currently for, for data centers. 2337 01:52:29,345 --> 01:52:34,315 So for your consideration, this is 12 months, 2338 01:52:36,165 --> 01:52:38,445 I move to adopt resolution 26 dash seven 2339 01:52:39,245 --> 01:52:41,725 temporary moratorium on the approval of processing 2340 01:52:41,725 --> 01:52:43,125 of applications for data centers. 2341 01:52:43,265 --> 01:52:46,045 Second. Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion? 2342 01:52:46,625 --> 01:52:49,285 Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. 2343 01:52:49,425 --> 01:52:50,425 Aye. Opposed? 2344 01:52:52,285 --> 01:52:54,815 That counts as it an aye. Okay. Five. Oh. 2345 01:52:55,845 --> 01:52:57,695 Alright. Thank you commissioners. Thanks Amy. 2346 01:52:57,705 --> 01:53:00,055 Thank you Amy put that on your list as well 2347 01:53:00,475 --> 01:53:03,615 for new assignments. 2348 01:53:03,615 --> 01:53:04,695 Alright, thank you. 2349 01:53:04,985 --> 01:53:06,855 We've already been working on this one, so 2350 01:53:07,555 --> 01:53:08,815 you're happy to have a break. 2351 01:53:11,245 --> 01:53:15,455 Alright, Commissioners we have next we have a series of 2352 01:53:16,615 --> 01:53:20,615 conservation research re conservation reserve enhancement 2353 01:53:20,615 --> 01:53:23,495 program, agreements of sale, and Mr. 2354 01:53:23,515 --> 01:53:25,455 Joe Pippin's here from as well. 2355 01:53:25,485 --> 01:53:27,815 He's prepared these so we can, I'll, I'll try 2356 01:53:27,815 --> 01:53:30,575 to summarize these, but these are all ready to be submitted 2357 01:53:30,575 --> 01:53:32,375 to the Department of Natural Resources 2358 01:53:32,375 --> 01:53:33,535 for review and final approval. 2359 01:53:34,125 --> 01:53:36,775 That includes agreements of sales, project agreements, 2360 01:53:36,835 --> 01:53:38,935 and all those have to be signed by the county commissioners. 2361 01:53:39,275 --> 01:53:41,535 All the funding for these programs are 2362 01:53:41,815 --> 01:53:43,575 provided by the program open space, 2363 01:53:43,675 --> 01:53:45,135 no county funds are being utilized. 2364 01:53:45,275 --> 01:53:47,415 So with that brief introduction, 2365 01:53:47,645 --> 01:53:51,575 item number three on pages 13 through 27 is an agreement 2366 01:53:51,595 --> 01:53:53,175 of sale and project agreement 2367 01:53:53,275 --> 01:53:55,855 for the big Oak Big Oak Farm LLC. 2368 01:53:56,205 --> 01:54:00,655 This will add 97.5 acres to, to the CREP 2369 01:54:01,315 --> 01:54:02,855 totals that we have in Queen Ians County. 2370 01:54:03,125 --> 01:54:06,375 Alright, so I'm gonna change your agenda up a little bit. 2371 01:54:06,695 --> 01:54:08,295 I move to execute each 2372 01:54:08,395 --> 01:54:11,935 of the conservation reservation enhancement program, 2373 01:54:12,495 --> 01:54:13,615 easement agreements of sale 2374 01:54:13,615 --> 01:54:17,735 and project agreements for the following properties owned 2375 01:54:17,795 --> 01:54:22,255 by Big Oak Farm LLC, the agreement owned by Robert 2376 01:54:22,395 --> 01:54:23,495 and Dean raci 2377 01:54:23,635 --> 01:54:27,775 and Catherine raci Eastman successors to the co-trustees 2378 01:54:27,775 --> 01:54:29,255 of the trust created by the last will 2379 01:54:29,255 --> 01:54:31,495 and testament of Robert E. Dean 2380 01:54:32,115 --> 01:54:36,855 and owned the one owned by Mardel View Farms, LLC 2381 01:54:37,475 --> 01:54:40,375 and the one owned by Alice M. Kirby 2382 01:54:40,435 --> 01:54:42,895 and Brenda Cheryl Kirby. 2383 01:54:43,675 --> 01:54:47,175 Second We have a motion and a second. 2384 01:54:47,315 --> 01:54:48,695 Any further discussion? Aye, 2385 01:54:49,325 --> 01:54:50,325 Well thought out. 2386 01:54:50,475 --> 01:54:53,135 Seeing none. All this in favor signify by saying aye a. 2387 01:54:53,235 --> 01:54:55,095 Aye. Opposed? Goodnight Joe. 2388 01:54:56,725 --> 01:54:59,575 Good seeing you, Joe. Great job. Thanks 2389 01:54:59,575 --> 01:55:00,575 For coming by. 2390 01:55:00,575 --> 01:55:01,175 Keep 'em coming. That's right. 2391 01:55:02,715 --> 01:55:04,455 All right, well that concludes action items 2392 01:55:04,465 --> 01:55:05,735 3, 4, 5, and six. 2393 01:55:06,235 --> 01:55:10,495 So, okay, moving on. Item number seven, pages 76 through 88. 2394 01:55:10,495 --> 01:55:14,535 We have the Bay Bridge run 2026 MOU between us 2395 01:55:14,635 --> 01:55:16,735 and the Maryland Transportation Authority 2396 01:55:17,395 --> 01:55:19,855 for the event on November 8th of this year, 2397 01:55:20,335 --> 01:55:22,735 I move to execute the memorandum of understanding 2398 01:55:23,085 --> 01:55:24,775 with the Maryland Transportation Authority 2399 01:55:25,195 --> 01:55:26,975 for the annual Bay Bridge run scheduled 2400 01:55:26,975 --> 01:55:28,735 for November 8th, 2026. 2401 01:55:29,835 --> 01:55:32,815 Second. Got a motion a second. Any discussion here? 2402 01:55:33,495 --> 01:55:35,295 I hope they can get it in the weather. C rates. 2403 01:55:35,735 --> 01:55:40,365 I hear you. All this in favor signify by saying Aye. 2404 01:55:40,705 --> 01:55:42,845 Aye. Aye. Opposed? AB saying five Oh. 2405 01:55:43,475 --> 01:55:44,765 Alright. Thank you commissioners. 2406 01:55:44,765 --> 01:55:47,245 Item eight on page 89 is a request for 2407 01:55:48,005 --> 01:55:49,565 economic development incentive funding 2408 01:55:49,625 --> 01:55:50,765 for Tide Water Direct. 2409 01:55:51,275 --> 01:55:53,925 This is for the EDIF commission. 2410 01:55:53,925 --> 01:55:57,845 Recommended the approval of $1,599 in grant funding for 2411 01:55:59,405 --> 01:56:01,805 forklift training for Tide Tidewater Direct. 2412 01:56:02,605 --> 01:56:06,085 I move to approve the disbursements $1,599 from the 2413 01:56:06,245 --> 01:56:08,165 Economic Development Incentive Fund, workforce Fund 2414 01:56:08,185 --> 01:56:10,925 for forklift training for to Tidewater direct LLC. 2415 01:56:10,925 --> 01:56:12,965 This disbursement of funds is contingent upon a signed 2416 01:56:12,965 --> 01:56:15,045 agreement between Economic Development Incentive Fund 2417 01:56:15,045 --> 01:56:16,245 Commission and the Tidewater Direct 2418 01:56:16,505 --> 01:56:18,005 and will outline the conditions of the agreement 2419 01:56:18,005 --> 01:56:19,285 and performance of the project. 2420 01:56:19,905 --> 01:56:23,565 Second, got a, a motion in a second. Any discussion? 2421 01:56:28,145 --> 01:56:32,645 The, so I, I have a question regarding this, this ask 2422 01:56:32,645 --> 01:56:36,045 and the one after the ask, please come on up. 2423 01:56:36,045 --> 01:56:37,045 Heather, 2424 01:56:37,825 --> 01:56:38,825 You were that close. 2425 01:56:39,625 --> 01:56:40,845 You were that close. It 2426 01:56:40,845 --> 01:56:41,845 Was good to stand up. 2427 01:56:42,345 --> 01:56:44,925 So I know that originally when 2428 01:56:45,505 --> 01:56:49,685 we introduced this program years ago, it was obviously one 2429 01:56:49,685 --> 01:56:51,205 of the main drivers, correct me if I'm 2430 01:56:51,205 --> 01:56:52,285 wrong, was job creation. 2431 01:56:53,165 --> 01:56:57,905 Yes. Okay. So I mean, I, I'm just, 2432 01:56:57,965 --> 01:56:59,665 I'm simply playing the devil's advocate. 2433 01:57:00,665 --> 01:57:03,625 I mean, anything that we can do that helps businesses 2434 01:57:03,625 --> 01:57:07,065 that already employ Queen County citizens and, 2435 01:57:07,085 --> 01:57:09,985 and so this first ask of the $1,500 for the training, 2436 01:57:11,195 --> 01:57:12,425 again, is an easy ask. 2437 01:57:16,135 --> 01:57:19,455 I don't see all it does is really just take Quinan County 2438 01:57:20,255 --> 01:57:21,415 employees that work there already 2439 01:57:22,195 --> 01:57:24,855 and just train them to operate a forklift. 2440 01:57:25,145 --> 01:57:27,135 Right? So we have two portions 2441 01:57:27,135 --> 01:57:28,735 of the economic development incentive fund. 2442 01:57:28,775 --> 01:57:31,855 I think it was in 2022 after COID lightened up. 2443 01:57:32,075 --> 01:57:34,775 We had some money that we were unable 2444 01:57:34,795 --> 01:57:37,375 to get out the door related to job training. 2445 01:57:37,875 --> 01:57:39,735 So this, the commission voted to move 2446 01:57:39,735 --> 01:57:42,775 that into the economic development incentive fund specific 2447 01:57:42,775 --> 01:57:43,895 to workforce training. 2448 01:57:44,235 --> 01:57:47,215 And the goal of it is, it can be an existing employee, 2449 01:57:47,675 --> 01:57:50,855 but to, to skill them up so that they are able 2450 01:57:50,855 --> 01:57:53,815 to make greater wages because they have a certificate 2451 01:57:53,915 --> 01:57:55,455 or some sort of skill. 2452 01:57:55,595 --> 01:57:57,455 So some of the thing, we haven't done a lot of these, 2453 01:57:57,555 --> 01:57:58,975 so I understand your confusion. 2454 01:57:59,685 --> 01:58:01,935 Some of the other ones that we've done, we've done one 2455 01:58:01,935 --> 01:58:06,295 for PRS and that was like management training 2456 01:58:06,435 --> 01:58:08,455 and then we have another one in play 2457 01:58:08,455 --> 01:58:10,895 for like human resources and management training. 2458 01:58:11,675 --> 01:58:14,935 So those then provide them with a skill, a certificate 2459 01:58:15,205 --> 01:58:16,655 that they could stay employed there 2460 01:58:16,835 --> 01:58:18,455 and receive more in wages and 2461 01:58:18,475 --> 01:58:20,175 or they're more marketable should they 2462 01:58:20,185 --> 01:58:21,295 leave that organization. 2463 01:58:21,355 --> 01:58:23,255 Not that that's what we're advocating to do, 2464 01:58:23,355 --> 01:58:27,055 but, so there is about, it was 250,000 that was allocated 2465 01:58:27,055 --> 01:58:28,255 to this workforce training. 2466 01:58:28,875 --> 01:58:30,055 And we have slowly 2467 01:58:30,115 --> 01:58:33,535 but surely little bits at a time given out. 2468 01:58:33,765 --> 01:58:36,935 Okay. That's a good explanation and I appreciate it. 2469 01:58:37,705 --> 01:58:38,705 That's all I have. 2470 01:58:41,095 --> 01:58:45,705 Okay. Seeing no other 2471 01:58:45,705 --> 01:58:47,825 discussion, all those in favor signify by saying aye. 2472 01:58:48,205 --> 01:58:50,025 Aye. Opposed? Five O. 2473 01:58:51,255 --> 01:58:53,145 Alright, thank you Commissioners. Thank you Heather. 2474 01:58:53,295 --> 01:58:55,585 Stay right there. We have number item number nine on 2475 01:58:55,585 --> 01:58:57,145 pages 90 and 92. 2476 01:58:57,655 --> 01:59:02,185 This is another request for EDIF funding for Aging Stronger. 2477 01:59:02,445 --> 01:59:05,185 And they are purchasing a body composition device 2478 01:59:05,185 --> 01:59:07,105 that provides precise body composition 2479 01:59:07,105 --> 01:59:09,745 and bone health assessments that support early intervention 2480 01:59:09,765 --> 01:59:10,945 and healthier aging. 2481 01:59:11,495 --> 01:59:15,345 This is a total cost to this project is $55,000. 2482 01:59:15,345 --> 01:59:18,385 They're requesting $50,000 in EDIF funding 2483 01:59:19,045 --> 01:59:20,145 to support the purchase. 2484 01:59:20,725 --> 01:59:23,465 And they currently employ one full-time staff member, 2485 01:59:23,465 --> 01:59:26,545 three part-timers and they're gonna hopefully get another 2486 01:59:26,595 --> 01:59:28,385 additional full-time position 2487 01:59:29,225 --> 01:59:30,265 sometime over the next three years 2488 01:59:30,365 --> 01:59:32,265 to support their business down. 2489 01:59:37,065 --> 01:59:40,465 I move to approve the Economic Development Incentive Fund 2490 01:59:40,535 --> 01:59:44,145 conditional loan up to 50,000 to the aging Stronger 2491 01:59:44,405 --> 01:59:46,065 for their purchase of the DSA device. 2492 01:59:46,205 --> 01:59:47,665 The disbursement of funds 2493 01:59:48,205 --> 01:59:50,025 is contingent upon a signed agreement 2494 01:59:50,175 --> 01:59:52,665 between the Economic Development Incentive Fund Commission 2495 01:59:53,005 --> 01:59:55,265 and Aging Stronger outlining the terms 2496 01:59:55,365 --> 01:59:56,745 and conditions of the funding 2497 01:59:56,765 --> 01:59:58,105 and the project's performance 2498 01:59:58,725 --> 02:00:01,185 as submitted in the economic development incentive 2499 02:00:01,415 --> 02:00:02,545 fund application. 2500 02:00:04,085 --> 02:00:06,705 Second. Got a motion to second Any other discussion? 2501 02:00:07,045 --> 02:00:11,745 So me again? So we're committing up to $50,000 2502 02:00:13,125 --> 02:00:17,505 for this business to purchase a piece of equipment loaning 2503 02:00:17,575 --> 02:00:18,575 It's a loan. 2504 02:00:18,575 --> 02:00:19,465 Yeah. Okay. Conditional loan. Yeah. 2505 02:00:19,695 --> 02:00:23,465 Okay. I I understand that component of it with the hopes 2506 02:00:23,465 --> 02:00:24,785 that in the next three years 2507 02:00:24,785 --> 02:00:26,225 they're gonna be able to hire one person. 2508 02:00:27,575 --> 02:00:31,825 Okay. Alright. That's all I have. 2509 02:00:35,125 --> 02:00:39,725 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? No abstained. 2510 02:00:40,555 --> 02:00:42,565 4 1 4 1. Alright. 2511 02:00:43,915 --> 02:00:45,885 Alright. Thank you commissioners. Thank you Heather. Thank 2512 02:00:45,885 --> 02:00:46,885 You. 2513 02:00:47,385 --> 02:00:49,645 All right, commissioners. Item number 10 on pages 93 2514 02:00:49,705 --> 02:00:54,125 to 103, this is the termination of open space easement 2515 02:00:54,225 --> 02:00:55,685 and amendment of deed 2516 02:00:55,685 --> 02:00:57,485 of forest conservation easement for Mr. 2517 02:00:57,565 --> 02:00:58,565 Clifford Higgs. 2518 02:00:59,275 --> 02:01:03,325 This owner is requesting approval to dissolve cluster lots, 2519 02:01:03,325 --> 02:01:06,525 2, 3, 4, and five and a private road Garson lane. 2520 02:01:07,185 --> 02:01:10,245 And he's proposing to create a slide lot number two 2521 02:01:10,385 --> 02:01:11,605 at six acres. 2522 02:01:12,345 --> 02:01:14,765 So this is all permitted within that zoning district 2523 02:01:14,985 --> 02:01:17,485 and the, they were allowed one slide lot 2524 02:01:17,655 --> 02:01:18,965 based on the acreage. 2525 02:01:19,425 --> 02:01:21,325 So the cluster lots were being dissolved. 2526 02:01:21,325 --> 02:01:24,325 The slide lot technique does not require open space. 2527 02:01:24,875 --> 02:01:26,405 That would get terminated as well. 2528 02:01:27,105 --> 02:01:29,605 And all the open space that was required with the, 2529 02:01:29,685 --> 02:01:31,925 with the original cluster lot subdivision. 2530 02:01:32,105 --> 02:01:34,355 So that's where we are. 2531 02:01:36,535 --> 02:01:38,855 I move to execute the termination of open space easement 2532 02:01:39,225 --> 02:01:42,125 and the amended deed of forced conservation easement 2533 02:01:42,345 --> 02:01:45,085 for the Clifford Higgs minor subdivision plan. 2534 02:01:45,505 --> 02:01:48,045 Second. You got a motion? Second. Any discussion? 2535 02:01:48,705 --> 02:01:51,445 Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. 2536 02:01:51,545 --> 02:01:53,405 Aye. Opposed? So moved. 2537 02:01:53,955 --> 02:01:55,325 Alright, thank you commissioners. 2538 02:01:55,385 --> 02:01:57,565 And our last item tonight, we have a desk item. 2539 02:01:58,075 --> 02:02:00,525 This is from the Y River Oyster Program. 2540 02:02:02,635 --> 02:02:04,525 This is a letter from Mr. Bruce Abel 2541 02:02:04,735 --> 02:02:06,365 Bruce, the last man standing. 2542 02:02:06,545 --> 02:02:09,165 Oh, last man standing request requesting continuing 2543 02:02:09,165 --> 02:02:11,845 funding support of the Y River Oyster program. 2544 02:02:12,575 --> 02:02:15,045 Their request currently is for $55,000 2545 02:02:15,065 --> 02:02:17,325 to match funds they have raised by the community 2546 02:02:17,385 --> 02:02:20,645 and to increase the spat plannings by an additional 15 2547 02:02:20,865 --> 02:02:24,525 to 20 million spat on shell over three acres. 2548 02:02:27,705 --> 02:02:30,845 So you're so far year to date, how much have you raised 2549 02:02:32,795 --> 02:02:33,795 Year to date? 2550 02:02:33,795 --> 02:02:34,925 About $110,000. 2551 02:02:35,365 --> 02:02:38,205 $110,000. Just from the neighborhoods down? Yes 2552 02:02:38,205 --> 02:02:38,685 Sir. That's 2553 02:02:38,685 --> 02:02:39,685 Correct. 2554 02:02:39,685 --> 02:02:41,965 Just from the public. Gotta love that. 2555 02:02:43,425 --> 02:02:47,085 And you're asking for 55,000 correct. From us. 2556 02:02:47,105 --> 02:02:49,565 So you're gonna be doing about $165,000 2557 02:02:49,565 --> 02:02:50,765 worth of spat on shell 2558 02:02:52,745 --> 02:02:53,415 Total? Yes 2559 02:02:53,535 --> 02:02:54,535 Sir. 2560 02:02:54,535 --> 02:02:54,775 Yeah. And how many 2561 02:02:54,775 --> 02:02:55,775 Acres in, in one year? 2562 02:02:56,075 --> 02:02:57,375 How, how many acres would that 2563 02:02:57,745 --> 02:02:58,745 Track? 2564 02:02:58,745 --> 02:03:01,255 There's each, each boat, each vessel. 2565 02:03:01,525 --> 02:03:04,615 Well I'm saying if $165,000 is gonna buy 2566 02:03:04,615 --> 02:03:05,775 how many acres of seeding? 2567 02:03:05,775 --> 02:03:09,175 Nine acres. Nine acres. Wow. Okay. 2568 02:03:11,305 --> 02:03:14,765 Per our, so, so since, since you were so graciously 2569 02:03:15,365 --> 02:03:17,365 approved funding last fall, 2570 02:03:17,895 --> 02:03:20,205 we've more than doubled the number 2571 02:03:20,225 --> 02:03:21,845 of homeowners that are involved. 2572 02:03:23,405 --> 02:03:25,845 Families and the, and the dollar amount. 2573 02:03:26,145 --> 02:03:29,845 So the program's really taking off, we're doing well. 2574 02:03:30,795 --> 02:03:33,325 Each barge you're committed to a barge or, 2575 02:03:33,425 --> 02:03:34,685 or we shared a barge. 2576 02:03:34,785 --> 02:03:38,725 You met our matched our funding last fall 2577 02:03:39,385 --> 02:03:42,845 and together we will plant one barge 2578 02:03:45,015 --> 02:03:47,345 next week, two weeks, sorry, June 6th. 2579 02:03:48,565 --> 02:03:53,105 And each barge will filter about a million plus gallons 2580 02:03:53,105 --> 02:03:54,145 of order per day. 2581 02:03:54,845 --> 02:03:58,265 So what we're asking now is to do two more barges. 2582 02:03:59,045 --> 02:04:03,745 So we've raised more than that 50 plus thousand dollars. 2583 02:04:03,765 --> 02:04:06,465 And that's what we're asking you to help match us. 2584 02:04:07,005 --> 02:04:10,545 So we can do another 2 million gallons per 2585 02:04:10,565 --> 02:04:12,595 day filtration. 2586 02:04:13,045 --> 02:04:15,235 Those that don't know it, the Y river is a sanctuary, 2587 02:04:15,335 --> 02:04:16,835 so these cannot be harvested. 2588 02:04:17,895 --> 02:04:20,355 And sooner or later, you know, when they mature out, 2589 02:04:21,345 --> 02:04:23,405 you know, hopefully in the next, you know, three 2590 02:04:23,405 --> 02:04:26,645 to five years, the spat will be coming off of those and, 2591 02:04:26,865 --> 02:04:29,685 and flowing out into Eastern or Eastern Bay 2592 02:04:29,985 --> 02:04:34,285 and attaching out there on, on some of the other beds 2593 02:04:34,285 --> 02:04:35,765 that have not been that lucky. 2594 02:04:36,025 --> 02:04:38,765 So, you know, I think it's an investment in the future. 2595 02:04:38,995 --> 02:04:40,845 It's, it's like what we do for the farms. 2596 02:04:41,345 --> 02:04:44,805 You know, once, once those oysters mature, we don't have 2597 02:04:44,805 --> 02:04:45,965 to spat on shell anymore. 2598 02:04:46,145 --> 02:04:50,735 We move more towards, you know, helping other bar, 2599 02:04:50,945 --> 02:04:52,895 other oyster beds. 2600 02:04:52,895 --> 02:04:54,015 So Mr. 2601 02:04:54,995 --> 02:04:55,995 Abel, you can be Harvested. 2602 02:04:56,305 --> 02:04:58,315 Yeah. Correct. These can't be right. 2603 02:04:58,455 --> 02:05:00,315 Mr. Abel, can you explain the process 2604 02:05:00,615 --> 02:05:05,065 for our viewers on how do you do all this? 2605 02:05:05,205 --> 02:05:07,705 So you buy the spat from Horn Point, 2606 02:05:08,165 --> 02:05:09,165 So Correct. 2607 02:05:09,165 --> 02:05:10,505 So no, not from Horn Point. 2608 02:05:11,685 --> 02:05:13,225 So what we did, we, we went out 2609 02:05:13,285 --> 02:05:15,945 and got the community involved first. 2610 02:05:16,695 --> 02:05:20,545 Okay. And their donations, we will accumulate, 2611 02:05:21,435 --> 02:05:26,105 we're a nonprofit, we're Midshore Community 2612 02:05:26,105 --> 02:05:28,105 Foundation is our sponsor. 2613 02:05:29,245 --> 02:05:31,545 So we work with them, we'll take the money 2614 02:05:31,565 --> 02:05:35,465 and then we'll buy them from a grower, not Horn Point. 2615 02:05:36,975 --> 02:05:40,465 It's actually seed to shock if you wanted to know that. 2616 02:05:41,095 --> 02:05:42,425 Seed to shock. Correct. 2617 02:05:42,855 --> 02:05:45,825 There's a, there's a same company that's doing 2618 02:05:46,725 --> 02:05:50,505 the seeding in Eastern Bay for the state of Maryland. So 2619 02:05:51,235 --> 02:05:54,035 You're, you're not putting them in tanks. 2620 02:05:54,825 --> 02:05:56,875 They're grown in tanks for the fat to go on the, 2621 02:05:56,875 --> 02:05:58,475 they're grown in tanks, they're Shell 2622 02:05:58,475 --> 02:05:59,675 Is in, they've already done that. 2623 02:06:00,375 --> 02:06:02,035 That's correct. They've already done that for you? 2624 02:06:02,055 --> 02:06:05,515 That's correct. That's correct. 2625 02:06:07,575 --> 02:06:10,155 And how big are they when you put 'em on the barge? 2626 02:06:10,255 --> 02:06:12,515 Are they dime size or? 2627 02:06:12,815 --> 02:06:15,515 No, microscopic size. Microscopic size. 2628 02:06:16,015 --> 02:06:18,555 But this past April we did go down 2629 02:06:18,575 --> 02:06:21,035 and we scuba dive down. 2630 02:06:21,135 --> 02:06:23,595 Oh. Took samples from our last planting. 2631 02:06:24,765 --> 02:06:27,715 We're very happy with the results we've talked, 2632 02:06:28,255 --> 02:06:30,475 we will be taking that data 2633 02:06:30,775 --> 02:06:35,635 and presenting it to Noah as well as 2634 02:06:36,275 --> 02:06:39,515 ORP and kind of helping us assess that. 2635 02:06:39,695 --> 02:06:40,715 But we're very happy. 2636 02:06:40,845 --> 02:06:45,565 We've seen three, four oyster real oysters on that are 2637 02:06:45,675 --> 02:06:48,565 that used to be spatter now oysters, one 2638 02:06:48,565 --> 02:06:50,285 and a half to two inch size oysters. 2639 02:06:50,425 --> 02:06:53,605 That's great. So it's, it's working. 2640 02:06:55,225 --> 02:06:58,085 How many people have been involved in the program with, 2641 02:06:58,155 --> 02:07:01,245 with, with you guys and, and raising the money? 2642 02:07:02,415 --> 02:07:03,745 There's a handful, like five. 2643 02:07:04,845 --> 02:07:05,865 But you mean how many people? 2644 02:07:05,865 --> 02:07:08,185 But, but there's a, again, there's 2645 02:07:09,575 --> 02:07:11,345 over 70 families. 2646 02:07:12,135 --> 02:07:13,385 Okay. That's the number I was looking for 2647 02:07:14,165 --> 02:07:18,305 And probably 20 to 25 others that are involved, 2648 02:07:18,485 --> 02:07:20,465 but just want information. 2649 02:07:21,755 --> 02:07:25,605 Okay. How, and that is about 22% 2650 02:07:25,865 --> 02:07:29,685 of the homeowners on the Y River. Okay. 2651 02:07:30,425 --> 02:07:34,205 How, how deep is the, are the oysters in, 2652 02:07:35,105 --> 02:07:36,165 how, how deep would the water 2653 02:07:36,165 --> 02:07:38,405 Now the, the perfect depth is 15 to 18 feet. 2654 02:07:41,435 --> 02:07:43,195 I didn't know that. That's interesting. 2655 02:07:44,295 --> 02:07:46,505 Alright. Why is that the sweet spot? 2656 02:07:47,125 --> 02:07:48,305 I'm Sorry, what's that? Is that, that's 2657 02:07:48,305 --> 02:07:49,345 the sweet spot for 2658 02:07:50,055 --> 02:07:51,465 Well that's, that's recommended. That's what 2659 02:07:51,465 --> 02:07:52,225 You got. That's what you 2660 02:07:52,245 --> 02:07:53,245 Got. 2661 02:07:53,245 --> 02:07:56,465 That came from the DNRN. Ah, yeah. And, and Noah 2662 02:07:57,105 --> 02:07:58,105 Actually. 2663 02:07:58,105 --> 02:07:59,785 Right. Which we're not going to do. 2664 02:08:01,885 --> 02:08:04,785 So the, the locations are determined by the DNR. 2665 02:08:05,445 --> 02:08:09,745 We are not picking those locations comes from side scan 2666 02:08:10,935 --> 02:08:15,465 information that came from Noah so that we, 2667 02:08:15,935 --> 02:08:20,815 that we, and they know that we're replacing the spa 2668 02:08:20,875 --> 02:08:25,535 and Shell is suitable for growth and, and success. 2669 02:08:26,435 --> 02:08:29,975 So because it's a sanctuary are are they going 2670 02:08:29,975 --> 02:08:34,255 to allow you to turn them up 2671 02:08:34,265 --> 02:08:36,575 after a few years to get the sediment off 2672 02:08:36,575 --> 02:08:37,855 of them to bring them back up? 2673 02:08:38,045 --> 02:08:40,255 There's a word for that. And I forget what it, 2674 02:08:40,755 --> 02:08:42,455 You only need to do that where the, where the, 2675 02:08:42,485 --> 02:08:44,215 When they're right. When they're adults. 2676 02:08:44,435 --> 02:08:45,695 No, when they're dead. When they're dead. 2677 02:08:46,035 --> 02:08:47,815 You're, you're removing that sediment 2678 02:08:47,815 --> 02:08:50,735 so you can plant new spat onto the shelves. 2679 02:08:51,395 --> 02:08:53,975 So hypothetically if the reef is 2680 02:08:53,975 --> 02:08:55,415 alive, you don't have that set. You, 2681 02:08:55,555 --> 02:08:56,695 You don't have to do that. Right, 2682 02:08:56,785 --> 02:08:57,785 Right. 2683 02:08:57,835 --> 02:08:58,935 So, yeah. 2684 02:09:00,005 --> 02:09:03,255 Alright, well I mean, I guess, you know, I'll make a motion 2685 02:09:03,285 --> 02:09:06,295 that we award the Y River Oyster program 2686 02:09:06,745 --> 02:09:08,695 $50,000 second. 2687 02:09:10,165 --> 02:09:12,505 We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? 2688 02:09:13,805 --> 02:09:16,705 Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. 2689 02:09:16,705 --> 02:09:20,265 Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstained five. 2690 02:09:20,285 --> 02:09:22,715 Oh, very good. Thank 2691 02:09:22,715 --> 02:09:23,875 You very much. Yes, thank 2692 02:09:23,875 --> 02:09:24,875 You Mr. 2693 02:09:24,955 --> 02:09:27,755 Abel. I was, there's another program 2694 02:09:28,105 --> 02:09:29,475 that our people are doing 2695 02:09:30,525 --> 02:09:32,355 Where They're, they're putting 2696 02:09:34,535 --> 02:09:35,535 The baskets. 2697 02:09:35,535 --> 02:09:37,675 Yeah, yeah. You gotta have enough salinity. 2698 02:09:37,695 --> 02:09:40,355 So like in the river you get up too much fresh water, 2699 02:09:40,415 --> 02:09:42,155 you know, he's down by the mouth of the river, 2700 02:09:42,215 --> 02:09:44,075 So, so he gets enough salinity. Yeah. 2701 02:09:44,075 --> 02:09:45,875 And I'm sure he gets, you know, you're 2702 02:09:45,875 --> 02:09:46,875 Talking about the baskets. 2703 02:09:46,875 --> 02:09:48,675 Yeah, It's a great program. 2704 02:09:50,425 --> 02:09:55,035 It's the MGO program primarily it, 2705 02:09:55,105 --> 02:09:56,395 it's an educational program 2706 02:09:56,935 --> 02:10:00,395 so outta each basket you're getting a, a small number 2707 02:10:00,395 --> 02:10:01,475 of spat actually. 2708 02:10:01,975 --> 02:10:03,935 So Sure. 2709 02:10:03,955 --> 02:10:06,375 Rivers estimates that you're gonna get 250 2710 02:10:06,765 --> 02:10:10,415 spat out of each basket. We did 2711 02:10:11,295 --> 02:10:12,815 Millions, 20 million. 2712 02:10:13,105 --> 02:10:14,695 Right. So. Right. 2713 02:10:15,445 --> 02:10:18,335 It's it, but it's a great program and I fully support it. 2714 02:10:19,115 --> 02:10:20,935 And then you can bottom leasing where you can, 2715 02:10:21,375 --> 02:10:23,265 somebody can basically rent 2716 02:10:24,335 --> 02:10:25,595 The acreage And acres 2717 02:10:25,615 --> 02:10:27,235 and just put the baskets on the bottom 2718 02:10:27,535 --> 02:10:29,795 or float 'em, you know, it just depends on where they are 2719 02:10:29,795 --> 02:10:31,835 and what the salinity's doing. So, yeah. 2720 02:10:32,375 --> 02:10:34,285 Yep. How many folks do you think did the basket 2721 02:10:34,285 --> 02:10:36,785 program just guessing? 2722 02:10:37,745 --> 02:10:39,305 I, I, I couldn't guess. Goodness. 2723 02:10:39,655 --> 02:10:42,705 What, what number I throw out might be Yeah, totally off 2724 02:10:43,745 --> 02:10:45,385 QAC, channel seven did a piece on 2725 02:10:45,385 --> 02:10:47,825 and jumping by the name of Bill who, who 2726 02:10:49,645 --> 02:10:52,185 raises oysters from the baskets office peer. 2727 02:10:52,405 --> 02:10:53,865 And he's got a total of 12 2728 02:10:55,285 --> 02:10:58,185 and they start a spat in a small little basket and, 2729 02:10:58,565 --> 02:11:00,065 and then they progressively get older. 2730 02:11:00,845 --> 02:11:03,025 You're seeing an oyster that's four years old 2731 02:11:03,025 --> 02:11:04,785 that's grown on the bottom of the bay 2732 02:11:05,645 --> 02:11:07,505 and his are the same size after a year and a half. 2733 02:11:08,125 --> 02:11:12,465 So the water clarity around his peer is amazing. Grass. 2734 02:11:12,525 --> 02:11:14,065 The nutrients or something. Huh? 2735 02:11:14,165 --> 02:11:16,985 The nutrients are on a higher level. 2736 02:11:17,385 --> 02:11:19,905 I, I would recommend that you, that you, yeah. 2737 02:11:19,915 --> 02:11:22,105 Watch that segment on QAC, channel seven. 2738 02:11:22,415 --> 02:11:24,865 It's fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. 2739 02:11:25,845 --> 02:11:26,995 Thank you. Well, 2740 02:11:26,995 --> 02:11:29,835 You know, I, I think that the five 2741 02:11:29,835 --> 02:11:31,915 of us up here sitting here, you know, did a lot 2742 02:11:31,915 --> 02:11:35,715 for the farms and I think this is another way, you know, 2743 02:11:35,895 --> 02:11:37,395 you know, the farms are in great shape 2744 02:11:37,415 --> 02:11:39,035 and we, we will continue with that. 2745 02:11:39,135 --> 02:11:43,355 But if we can get the Y River to explode with oysters 2746 02:11:43,895 --> 02:11:45,955 and then move away from it, I think, you know, that's, 2747 02:11:45,955 --> 02:11:48,755 that's a, that's a good thing for everybody. Good thing 2748 02:11:48,755 --> 02:11:49,755 For everybody. 2749 02:11:49,755 --> 02:11:51,195 Honestly, I'm surprised that you're the only 2750 02:11:51,305 --> 02:11:52,515 ones that have approached us. 2751 02:11:53,145 --> 02:11:55,155 Well, they've raised the money. That's what I'm saying. 2752 02:11:55,155 --> 02:11:56,955 You know, they, they, they have the skin in the game 2753 02:11:57,015 --> 02:11:59,515 and, you know, almost at a two to one rate. 2754 02:11:59,535 --> 02:12:02,795 And I think that that's commendable by far. 2755 02:12:03,215 --> 02:12:04,915 So, thank you Bruce. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. 2756 02:12:05,125 --> 02:12:08,235 Thank you. Thank you for saying be the last man. Yeah. 2757 02:12:08,235 --> 02:12:10,275 Thank you. At least it wasn't worth nothing. 2758 02:12:10,295 --> 02:12:11,395 That's a, a good thing. 2759 02:12:11,585 --> 02:12:14,715 Alright, well, no press of public comment. Nothing to read. 2760 02:12:15,525 --> 02:12:19,915 We're we're good to go. So, round table. 2761 02:12:19,975 --> 02:12:21,035 You wanna go, boss? Yeah. 2762 02:12:21,615 --> 02:12:25,275 So all the high schoolers are graduating this week 2763 02:12:25,535 --> 02:12:28,275 for Queen Anne County and Ken Island High School. 2764 02:12:28,415 --> 02:12:31,075 So to all of the graduating seniors, 2765 02:12:31,485 --> 02:12:32,795 we're all very proud of all of you. 2766 02:12:33,015 --> 02:12:35,195 So congratulations and go do great things. 2767 02:12:36,915 --> 02:12:40,345 Number three, Go past me, 2768 02:12:40,855 --> 02:12:44,385 Patrick, you ready? Got 2769 02:12:44,505 --> 02:12:45,505 Anything? 2770 02:12:45,505 --> 02:12:49,185 I've been approached strangely, not strangely, by a number 2771 02:12:49,245 --> 02:12:54,125 of teenagers asking if we would 2772 02:12:54,125 --> 02:12:57,765 do a mental health town hall, 2773 02:12:59,655 --> 02:13:02,325 which I was really, I'm, 2774 02:13:03,025 --> 02:13:04,965 you know, I'm taking it seriously. 2775 02:13:05,515 --> 02:13:08,445 Okay. So I'll I'll let you guys know. Yeah. 2776 02:13:08,745 --> 02:13:10,885 I'm not sure what, how it would work. 2777 02:13:10,885 --> 02:13:11,925 Would it be at the high school? 2778 02:13:11,975 --> 02:13:16,045 Would it be at the fire department? 2779 02:13:16,665 --> 02:13:20,705 And their thoughts are is that it should be over the summer, 2780 02:13:21,295 --> 02:13:24,665 because if you wait till school, then if anything comes out 2781 02:13:24,665 --> 02:13:29,465 of it that's proactive, we'd like to give the school time 2782 02:13:29,565 --> 02:13:32,365 to, to think about it and implement it. 2783 02:13:32,715 --> 02:13:36,045 Sure. And the, the yellow card program 2784 02:13:36,185 --> 02:13:38,325 that's being done at Talbot is the gold standard. 2785 02:13:39,305 --> 02:13:41,705 So we'd like 2786 02:13:41,705 --> 02:13:44,225 to encourage the public school to look into that. 2787 02:13:44,575 --> 02:13:47,825 Awesome. So cool. You ready, coach? 2788 02:13:48,125 --> 02:13:49,265 Yes, sir. So, 2789 02:13:49,385 --> 02:13:51,625 transportation planning meeting tomorrow at five 2790 02:13:51,625 --> 02:13:52,825 30 at the Ken Island Library. 2791 02:13:53,265 --> 02:13:56,345 Residents can review the draft region now 2792 02:13:57,445 --> 02:14:01,225 2027 Transportation Improvement Program and provide comment. 2793 02:14:01,455 --> 02:14:03,865 This plan aligns with the MO 2794 02:14:04,865 --> 02:14:06,305 Consolidated Transportation program. 2795 02:14:07,235 --> 02:14:10,625 Juneteenth Festival is coming up for Canard on June 13th. 2796 02:14:10,885 --> 02:14:14,305 It starts at 8:00 AM with a Father's Day haircuts 2797 02:14:14,525 --> 02:14:16,505 and a continental breakfast followed 2798 02:14:16,525 --> 02:14:17,665 by the parade at 10 o'clock. 2799 02:14:17,895 --> 02:14:20,905 Grayville Community Center's also doing the Juneteenth 2800 02:14:21,155 --> 02:14:22,945 19th or the 13th? Where'd you say? 2801 02:14:23,295 --> 02:14:26,625 June 13th. Okay. For the Canard Festival. Okay. 2802 02:14:26,875 --> 02:14:29,545 Graceville Community Center's also having a Juneteenth 2803 02:14:29,545 --> 02:14:32,905 celebration on the 19th from four to eight. 2804 02:14:34,205 --> 02:14:38,305 We celebrated Emergency Medical Systems week last week. 2805 02:14:38,365 --> 02:14:42,505 And congratulations to Sierra Gardner named BLS Clinician. 2806 02:14:42,505 --> 02:14:45,585 That's basic life support of the year. 2807 02:14:45,645 --> 02:14:48,625 And Sarah Tory was the Advanced Life 2808 02:14:48,625 --> 02:14:49,985 Support clinician of the year. 2809 02:14:51,095 --> 02:14:55,945 There's still time to review, there's still time to, 2810 02:15:01,015 --> 02:15:02,865 there's actually a few days still left over. 2811 02:15:03,285 --> 02:15:04,385 Jim, if you don't mind. 2812 02:15:04,805 --> 02:15:08,145 The Shrink Rack program is accepting bags at the 2813 02:15:09,505 --> 02:15:10,665 Grayville Transfer Station, 2814 02:15:10,765 --> 02:15:14,225 and you can receive your bag from West Marine, either one 2815 02:15:14,225 --> 02:15:16,905 of our libraries, ACE Hardware Stevensville, 2816 02:15:18,805 --> 02:15:20,425 the town Hall building in Centerville. 2817 02:15:21,185 --> 02:15:23,305 Just as a reminder, you have to take the zippers 2818 02:15:23,305 --> 02:15:26,425 and the vents off. 2819 02:15:26,885 --> 02:15:30,865 And then last I want to share the fact that I got to attend 2820 02:15:31,455 --> 02:15:34,705 yesterday's Maryland State two, a baseball game 2821 02:15:35,715 --> 02:15:39,185 where Ken Island High School, varsity baseball 2822 02:15:40,105 --> 02:15:42,705 competed against Hereford for the two-way State Classic. 2823 02:15:44,495 --> 02:15:46,745 They lost three to two with two outs in the bottom 2824 02:15:46,765 --> 02:15:48,945 of the seventh inning on a, 2825 02:15:49,065 --> 02:15:51,185 a walk off a blooper into right field. 2826 02:15:51,325 --> 02:15:54,625 But this is the first time in 18 years that 2827 02:15:55,965 --> 02:15:58,385 at a Queen Ance County high school baseball team has 2828 02:15:58,825 --> 02:15:59,945 attended the state playoffs. 2829 02:16:00,005 --> 02:16:01,905 So kudos to those young men. 2830 02:16:02,505 --> 02:16:04,505 There was actually three freshmen on the team, 2831 02:16:05,525 --> 02:16:06,545 so very, very deep. 2832 02:16:07,045 --> 02:16:09,305 But I, I wanna attribute the success 2833 02:16:09,305 --> 02:16:12,265 of the baseball programs at both our high schools 2834 02:16:12,925 --> 02:16:14,705 to the youth baseball programs 2835 02:16:14,705 --> 02:16:16,625 that are feeders into those programs. 2836 02:16:17,355 --> 02:16:19,745 We're turning out some great kids that are playing the game, 2837 02:16:20,765 --> 02:16:24,825 so kudos to Jack Cheney, the coaching staff 2838 02:16:25,605 --> 02:16:28,305 for the Ken Island High School boys varsity baseball team. 2839 02:16:28,605 --> 02:16:31,565 And of course, the young men that fought very, very hard 2840 02:16:31,565 --> 02:16:33,485 to get to where they were last night 2841 02:16:33,625 --> 02:16:36,445 and just could make it happen in the two outs. 2842 02:16:37,805 --> 02:16:40,925 Runner on first two balls, two strikes, 2843 02:16:41,625 --> 02:16:42,845 and the next pitch. 2844 02:16:43,035 --> 02:16:45,805 Just a blooper in the right field. And, and Hereford won. 2845 02:16:45,805 --> 02:16:47,765 Played a good game. They won on a walk off, 2846 02:16:47,865 --> 02:16:49,485 but kudos to those boys 2847 02:16:49,485 --> 02:16:51,325 and I look forward to watching them come in the future. 2848 02:16:51,765 --> 02:16:53,845 I think they're only graduating two or three seniors 2849 02:16:54,625 --> 02:16:56,125 and they have two freshman starters. 2850 02:16:56,145 --> 02:16:58,925 So this is gonna be a great program. Great job boys. 2851 02:16:59,185 --> 02:17:00,805 And we look forward to watching you guys do it. 2852 02:17:00,805 --> 02:17:03,685 And again, next year. That's all I have. 2853 02:17:04,525 --> 02:17:05,685 I I, I don't have anything to add, 2854 02:17:05,845 --> 02:17:07,805 but you may want to give the lacrosse team a 2855 02:17:07,805 --> 02:17:08,805 Shout out to. 2856 02:17:08,805 --> 02:17:10,925 Yeah, oh yeah. A also too, the lacrosse team, they went 2857 02:17:10,945 --> 02:17:13,645 to their, their state championship game. 2858 02:17:13,645 --> 02:17:14,925 They fell short as well. 2859 02:17:15,465 --> 02:17:18,405 But again, and making it to the, 2860 02:17:18,425 --> 02:17:20,805 the state championship game huge for all the school, 2861 02:17:20,865 --> 02:17:23,125 all the, the two A schools in the state of Maryland 2862 02:17:23,585 --> 02:17:26,845 and make it to that championship game, win it or lose it. 2863 02:17:26,995 --> 02:17:28,325 It's a huge accomplishment. 2864 02:17:28,585 --> 02:17:31,285 So absolutely to Bobby Willie and his coaching staff 2865 02:17:31,745 --> 02:17:34,005 and the Ken Island boys varsity lacrosse team. 2866 02:17:34,035 --> 02:17:35,035 Very good. Yep. 2867 02:17:37,125 --> 02:17:39,975 Good. I just wanna give a shout out for the senior summit, 2868 02:17:40,715 --> 02:17:41,575 you know, ah, 2869 02:17:44,595 --> 02:17:45,775 you gotta love our seniors. 2870 02:17:45,775 --> 02:17:47,775 That's all I got to say. I appreciate everything they do. 2871 02:17:47,835 --> 02:17:51,815 And they had over 850 people show up. Food is great. 2872 02:17:51,825 --> 02:17:55,855 Event was great. Great weather. I'm very, very proud of 'em. 2873 02:17:55,855 --> 02:17:59,295 I'm happy to sit on that committee with them. And with that, 2874 02:18:01,085 --> 02:18:02,175 Make a motion to adjourn. 2875 02:18:02,795 --> 02:18:06,135 Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you very much.