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[1:47] So the agenda for our meeting today, July 14th, along [1:51] with the regular session minutes, [1:52] the sanitary commission minutes [1:54] and the closed session minutes from the June 30th meeting [1:57] have been circulated for review. [1:58] Any additions, changes, corrections? [2:01] Nope. Motion to approve the agenda as submitted [2:03] and the minutes as submitted. [2:05] Second, We have a motion [2:06] to second any further discussion? [2:08] Seeing none. All those in favor signify the saying Aye. [2:11] Aye. Opposed? Alright, thank you commissioners. [2:15] So we just held a closed session under the general [2:17] provisions article sections 3, 3 0 5 B one for personnel, [2:21] section 3, 3 0 5 B seven to consult with counsel [2:24] and section 3 3 0 5 B three for land acquisition. [2:28] I do believe we have one government services contract motion [2:32] for for the personnel matter. [2:36] I move to approve the government relations contract [2:39] with Bruce Ano for FFY 2027. [2:42] Second. Motion to second. Any discussion on this topic? [2:46] See none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. [2:48] Opposed? All right, thank you commissioners. [2:51] That brings us to press and public comment. [2:54] So we appreciate all citizens for taking time [2:56] to express views to the county commissioners. [2:59] Comments are limited to three minutes per person [3:01] comments longer than three [3:02] minutes can be submitted in writing. [3:04] This commission respects your desire [3:06] and right to convey your message freely. [3:07] When you come forward, please speak clearly at the standing [3:10] microphone states, your name, your address, [3:11] and your topic of interest. [3:13] And in keeping with the dignity of our office, we ask [3:15] that all views be expressed in a [3:17] respectful and civil manner. [3:19] We have, first on the list is Loring Mills. [3:27] Good morning commissioners. Good morning. Morning. [3:29] Morning. My interest is in traffic safety question. [3:33] My name is Loring Mills. [3:34] I live at 2 32 Topside Drive in Stevensville. [3:40] A decision was made by the planning commission last Thursday [3:44] to provide major site plan approval [3:47] for a manufacturing facility adjacent to target traffic, [3:52] routing and accessibility was considered, [3:55] but traffic safety for that particular activity [3:59] was not properly addressed. [4:02] The proposed facility is for a good company, [4:05] it's a great company, it's a great asset [4:07] for Queen Anne's County, the tech ops safety [4:10] specialty vehicles and that the county should support [4:14] whatever they can to help this company. [4:16] They provide items for security at national events. [4:20] My concern is the traffic consideration of that entrance [4:25] to the facility that was being considered. [4:28] The proposed entrance to the FI is on a sharp curve [4:32] of the Thompson Creek Road within 200 feet [4:36] of the MA most complex intersection we have on Ken Island. [4:40] That's where Route eight inter is interchanges with [4:45] Thompson Creek Road and Pier One Road. [4:49] That intersection is well documented [4:51] as a problem intersection In fact, [4:56] traffic backs up beyond where that proposed entrance is [5:01] to the facility for each one of the red lights. [5:04] Not every red light, but every few minutes a red light [5:06] back up occurs there. [5:08] And my concern is basically [5:11] how the heck are you gonna handle all the traffic on that [5:15] area and the aggravated aspects of that entrance [5:20] to that important intersection. [5:24] As you review the project, I review, IE urge the commission [5:28] to require an independent TRA traffic safety evaluation. [5:33] How does that impact the traffic there on that route eight [5:38] at that intersection? [5:39] That's very close. It's a lifeline. [5:43] It's a lifeline for a large part of the county [5:47] and a lot of business and activity there. [5:50] I just thank you for consideration of that safety effect. [5:54] I would like to offer my comments that I [5:56] provided to the planning committee [5:59] as thank [6:01] You. [6:02] Thank you. [6:07] All righty. Jay Stead. [6:17] Good morning commissioners. [6:18] Jay Fag, queen and Conservation Association. [6:21] Thank you for the opportunity to speak [6:23] and thank you for having the morning meeting. [6:24] It's kind of nice to see daylight outside. [6:28] I just wanna make a comment one on 26 0 5, [6:32] but two on these text amendments generally [6:34] because I've been following this stuff for a long time [6:39] and it seems like these text amendments are now getting [6:41] to a point where they're getting outta control. [6:44] And so anybody is entitled [6:46] to submit a text amendment in February. [6:49] More often than not, these things are coming forward for [6:53] a single landowner to try [6:55] and correct something either based on a bad investment [6:58] or a misunderstanding [6:59] or something related to their their property. [7:03] The problem is they're not taking into account the broader [7:07] impacts to the county [7:08] and legis legislation is supposed to work countywide. [7:12] And so what happens is some [7:16] eager attorney will come forward with a text amendment, [7:19] push it forward force staff to do a review, [7:23] force your attorney to do a review, [7:25] force my attorney to do a review. [7:27] And oftentimes they end up failing. [7:31] And so I hope at some point we can take a look at text [7:35] amendments generally with the aim [7:38] of hopefully doing away with them. [7:39] I have to say in my 20 plus years, I've never once [7:42] put forth a single text amendment. [7:45] And there's a reason because I try [7:46] and work through the commissioners, [7:48] bring forward a legislative idea, [7:50] let it go through the process. [7:52] This text amendment process I think is just [7:54] wr wrought with problems. [7:55] That brings me to 26 0 5. [7:59] I testified last time on it, this particular text amendment [8:03] and this particular parcel of land. [8:06] In short, in my view, the landowner bought a lemon [8:10] and now he's coming to you to try and rescue his investment. [8:15] At no point during his proposal [8:19] has he done any other traffic [8:20] studies anywhere else in the county. [8:22] There's been nothing to look at any [8:24] of the other intersections [8:25] where this text amendment would apply. [8:28] Your highest order [8:29] as a county commissioner is public safety. [8:33] By allowing what he wants to do at that intersection [8:36] undermines your ultimate responsibility [8:39] for public health, safety and welfare. [8:42] I submitted a paper to Todd, Mr. Mon just a moment ago. [8:46] I also submitted to you by email yesterday, I believe [8:50] that text amendment 26 0 5 is legally vulnerable, [8:54] but for a whole host [8:55] of other reasons which are articulated in this paper, [8:59] I hope you'll find a way to reject this outright. [9:02] You have plenty of reasons to reject it. [9:04] The Planning commission said no. [9:06] The Economic Development Commission said no. [9:09] The Board of Appeals said no [9:10] and your public works department has said no. [9:13] That should be plenty of reason. [9:14] Enough to just say no to 26 0 5. Thank you. [9:18] Thank you. Alright, Brenda Malaney, [9:26] I'm the eager attorney. [9:27] I believe so. [9:29] I I represent the two first text [9:31] amendments that are on your agenda today. [9:32] And would just like to recognize that the, you know, the law [9:36] and the process do allow citizens [9:39] to bring these text amendments forward to resolve issues. [9:41] The text amendments are there, whether you bring them [9:44] or a citizen or a business owner [9:45] or a property owner brings them to address specific issues. [9:49] That's why the mechanism exists. [9:51] The county has a short window where they can be submitted [9:55] and you know, we've, we've submitted in that window [9:58] to address an issue [10:00] that we believe results in a better situation for the county [10:04] supports business in the county [10:06] and would allow a reasonable review by the Board of Appeals [10:10] as we've proposed to modify the text amendment, [10:14] would allow a reasonable review by the Board of Appeals [10:16] through the conditional use process to ensure [10:18] that there are not significant adverse impacts created [10:21] at a subject location. [10:24] Recognizing that this change is requested to be countywide. [10:27] We do believe that it is reasonable. [10:29] I do want to point out that there's a lot of, you know, [10:32] there's some dialogue on social media on both sides [10:35] of this discussion related to the 3 0 1 intersection [10:39] that is adjacent to this applicant [10:42] who brought forward the citizen led [10:43] text amendments property. [10:44] That intersection is well over 100 feet from this property [10:48] so that that intersection is not at conflict with the law [10:51] as it currently exists. [10:52] There's a dirt road intersection between that intersection [10:55] and this subject property. [10:57] I don't believe that there are traffic concerns [10:59] or safety concerns related to [11:01] that intersection within a hundred feet. [11:02] But the intersection that I think is causing some [11:04] of this consternation and dialogue is well over 100 feet [11:07] away from the entrance to this specific property here [11:12] to answer any questions on behalf of either [11:14] of these applicants for these citizen led text amendments. [11:16] But just wanted to note that. Thank you [11:20] Laura Davis. [11:24] Morning everyone. Laura Davis Churchill, Maryland. [11:28] I'm a lifelong resident of Quin Annes County. [11:29] Grew up in Sellersville. [11:31] My husband and I have been in Churchill [11:33] for the last 10 years and I use the 3 0 1 4 0 5 [11:36] intersection every day. [11:38] I used it on the way here. I will soon have children [11:41] traveling that intersection [11:44] potentially multiple times a day. [11:46] I drafted an email, I sent it this morning. [11:48] So a little tardy on my part. [11:50] But I do want to express my feelings about [11:54] the text amendment change that's being proposed [11:58] for Ordinance 26 0 5. [12:00] I urge you to vote no. [12:02] As someone who has advocated to improve the safety [12:04] of the intersection at 3 0 1 [12:07] and 4 0 5 for years, I find it deeply troubling [12:10] that the county is even considering reducing requirements [12:13] required setbacks for gas station entrances [12:15] and exits from a hundred feet to 75 feet. [12:17] The intersection is already one of the most dangerous [12:21] and frustrating in our county. [12:23] As you all are aware, every day residents have [12:26] to navigate high speeds higher than ever. [12:28] I would argue heavy traffic more than ever, [12:31] I would argue right Since the Delaware [12:34] Middletown bypass has been put in place, [12:36] limited opportunities to turn on the highway [12:39] and near misses that have become all too common. [12:42] The solution should be finding ways [12:43] to make this intersection safer, [12:45] not weakening the very standards that were put into place [12:49] to protect the traveling public. [12:51] What is especially concerning is [12:53] that the professionals charged [12:54] with evaluating these issues have already spoken. [12:57] The Department of Public Works recommended against the [13:00] amendment planning staff recommended an [13:02] unfavorable recommendation. [13:03] The Economic Development Commission also opposed the [13:06] amendment because of traffic safety concerns. [13:08] When multiple independent county departments reach the same [13:11] conclusion, that should carry significant [13:13] weight in your decision making. [13:15] This ordinance is not simply about one of a parcel of land. [13:18] If adopted, it will establish a countywide precedent [13:21] by reducing safety standards [13:22] for future developments across Queen Anns County. [13:25] A place we all know and love our community has been asking [13:28] for improvements to this 3 0 1 4 0 5 intersection for years. [13:32] We need to be meaningful. [13:34] We need to put meaningful investment in traffic safety, [13:37] better traffic flow, [13:39] and long-term solutions, not regulatory changes [13:41] that could increase the number of vehicle [13:43] conflict points at an already difficult intersection. [13:46] If this ordinance is approved [13:48] and development proceeds under reduc, I'm sorry, [13:51] reduced safety standards, I fear it will only be a matter [13:54] of time before a serious tragedy occurs. [13:56] Many of which have already occurred As it stands. [14:00] I sincerely hope we never reach a day when everyone looks [14:03] back and wonders why the warnings from the county staff, [14:07] public safety advocates and concerned citizens were ignored. [14:11] Please put public safety ahead of convenience [14:13] and development pressure. [14:15] The residents who travel these roads daily deserve [14:17] leadership that prioritizes protecting lives [14:20] over lowering established safety standards. [14:23] I respect each of you and I ask you to vote no [14:26] to Ordinance 26 0 5. [14:28] Thank you. Thank you, thank [14:29] You, thank you. [14:31] That's all we had signed up. [14:32] Would anybody else like to speak at this time? [14:36] Name and address. [14:37] Yes, Joe Ano lived here my whole life. [14:40] Senator Rome, Maryland, the owner [14:42] of Property and Price Station. [14:45] One thing I just wanna make clear is [14:46] that the intersection 3 0 3 0 1 [14:49] and four five is not the intersection that is applicable to [14:53] what we're trying to change here it is the Dirt Road, [14:55] Carville Price Road, which is within a hundred, [14:57] not the not the highway intersection. [14:59] Highway intersection I know is an issue. [15:01] Every highway intersection on 3 0 1 is be is an issue. [15:04] I'm in full support of trying to find a solution [15:06] to make all those intersections safer. [15:10] We've recently received a letter from State Highway. [15:12] I know you guys have sent them letters to make 'em safer. [15:14] We received a letter from them. [15:16] They're gonna use our property to help [15:17] with their traffic studies to, to try to find a solution. [15:20] We're in full support of that. [15:22] But those intersections are not, don't, don't really relate [15:25] to what we're trying to do with this project. [15:27] This project here we are trying to help the commu, [15:30] it's a commercial property. [15:32] You know, it's been sitting there vacant for years. [15:34] The community out there wants something. [15:35] They've, we've for four years we've [15:37] been trying to figure out what to do. [15:39] They've come to us. They want gas, they want a gas station. [15:42] You know, there's no gas station along 3 0 1 [15:44] for 30 mile stretch. [15:46] You know, there's no place to get fuel. [15:48] They have to go to Churchill, they have to go [15:49] to Centerville, they have to go to Delaware. [15:51] We're trying to help the [15:52] community here, the community there. [15:54] This is what they want. So I hope [15:56] we can find a way to make it happen. [15:59] Would anybody else like to speak? [16:06] We also have a couple people on Zoom [16:07] and if you are in Zoom [16:09] and wanna make public comment, could you please either use [16:10] the raise your hand feature [16:12] or answer the the chat that we have. [16:15] This email comes from Claudia Jewel. [16:18] As a lifetime resident of Ken Island [16:19] and a resident of Marlin Farms for 62 years, [16:22] I strongly request that commissioners [16:23] and the Department of Public works prioritize the extension [16:26] of the sewer system to Marlin Farms and Dominion. [16:29] Rising water levels and aging STIC systems pose a genuine [16:32] concern for homeowners and for the environment. [16:34] Every waterfront home with the septic system is a time bomb [16:37] for failure and our precious rivers will be the victims. [16:40] Planning for extension of the 5 5 2 [16:42] system need to be started. [16:43] ASAP as far as future allocations, quarterly review [16:47] and approval appears to be the better plan. [16:49] Thank you for your consideration. That's all I have. [16:52] We better wave than I? No, I think we're good to deal. [16:56] Alright, we're gonna go ahead and close. [16:58] Press on public comment. [17:03] Alright commissioners, we can move into the legislation [17:06] we have this evening, or excuse me this morning. [17:10] Tab number seven, item one, page one, [17:13] county ordinance 26 0 5 [17:15] supplemental standards for gas stations. [17:17] This is available for a vote. [17:19] This is supplemental standards for gas stations [17:21] to include fuel pumps, underground storage, fuel tanks, [17:24] canopies and Queen S County. [17:25] For the purpose of reducing the required distance [17:27] between an exit entrance to a gas station [17:30] to any intersection from 100 to 75 feet. [17:35] I think I, I would like to continue this item [17:37] for an additional two weeks so we can consider an [17:39] amendment to the ordinance. [17:40] So we're gonna hold that. [17:42] Okay. Alright. [17:46] Item number two, county ordinance 26 0 6. [17:50] This is for the maximum impervious surface ratio [17:54] for commercial and industrial uses in the suburban [17:56] commercial district that we're operating prior to [17:59] December 31st, 2025. [18:02] And this would increase that impervious percentage coverage [18:07] from 45% to 80%. [18:11] And also I would also like to continue this item [18:13] for an additional two weeks so we can consider an [18:15] amendment to the ordinance. [18:17] So we're gonna hold these two in two weeks, come back with a [18:20] possible amendment and move forward from there. [18:24] Okay? [18:26] Alright. Thank you Mr. President. [18:27] Item number three is the amendment [18:31] to county ordinance 26 0 9 for [18:34] transferable development rights. [18:37] This can be introduced [18:38] and forwarded to the planning commission for review [18:40] and recommendation if you so choose. [18:42] This would further restrict the allowable uses in open [18:46] space, which have been administratively subdivided under [18:49] other provisions of the legislation. [18:53] I'll introduce the amendment to 26 and nine. Alright. [19:00] Okay, item four is [19:03] likewise an amendment to county ordinance 26 10 [19:06] for non-contiguous development. [19:08] Also can be introduced and forward [19:09] to the planning commission for review [19:11] and recommendation similar to the previous ordinance, [19:15] this would further restrict the allowable uses in open [19:17] space, which have been administrative loose subdivided under [19:20] the TD NNCD development districts. [19:25] We'll introduce the amendment to county ordinance [19:27] 26 10 as well. [19:30] Okay. Alright. Alright. [19:33] That's all we had on the agenda [19:34] for legislation this morning. [19:36] Okay, [19:38] Next up we have Presentations. [19:40] So item first up we have Ms. [19:43] Melinda Ray, character counts coordinator. [19:45] So Melinda, come on up. Good [19:46] Morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. [19:50] I'm a morning person So this is perfect. [19:53] Alright, so I am here [19:55] to give you guys just an update on character counts [19:59] and where we stand and how our year went in the schools. [20:02] It went really well. I always do surveys with our teachers [20:06] and our students at the end of the year to kind [20:08] of figure out, make sure we're doing what we want to do [20:11] and that we're making the impact we think we're making. [20:13] So I have some stats for you. [20:16] We ask the teachers whether [20:17] or not they felt the school supported character counts [20:19] and they saw it like within their building [20:21] and other places outside of just the coaches coming in. [20:23] 95% said that they, they did. So the schools are on board. [20:27] And then we have some great buy-in. [20:29] We've got some great schools and great faculty, [20:31] so I always love working with them. [20:33] 93% of our teachers said [20:35] that they welcome the character counts coaches into their [20:37] classrooms, which is is nice. [20:40] And one of the questions I asked both sets teachers [20:43] and students was whether [20:45] or not character counts is making a positive [20:47] impact on their classroom. [20:48] What are the teachers seeing? [20:49] Is this helping the way we think that we're helping [20:52] and 91% of our teachers so [20:54] that they see a positive impact on our, [20:55] on their students from our character counts coaches. [20:57] So that's always exciting. [20:59] And then we also pull students, we pull fourth [21:01] and fifth graders and some third graders, [21:03] but mostly fourth and fifth graders. [21:05] And this is always my favorite data [21:07] is what the kids are saying. [21:09] So 82% of that age group said that they enjoy the classes, [21:13] they enjoy the lessons from our coaches. [21:16] 89% felt that the coach that they had was engaging [21:19] and then fun and, and they enjoyed their visits. [21:22] And then 72% of the students said [21:25] that they saw a positive impact from the te the [21:27] coaches in their classroom. [21:29] And 72 is obviously lower than 91, [21:31] but we're talking about 10, 11 year olds. [21:32] So that's a hard audience. So I think 72 is a good number [21:37] for them to say that they see a positive impact. [21:39] So I thought that that was kind of exciting. [21:41] And then I also, we allow our TE teachers [21:44] and our students to kind of make comments. [21:47] So I wanted to read you some of them. [21:49] These are from the teacher survey. I love character counts. [21:52] Having a community member teach these lessons [21:54] and be one more adult in a child's life who is teaching them [21:56] and pulling for them is wonderful. [21:58] It truly takes a village, which is one of my favorites. [22:02] The year was outstanding best in 11 years. [22:04] Coaches were great with kids, consistent and communicative. [22:08] These character counts lessons are [22:10] so valuable to our students. [22:11] Thank you so much for making sure our young students [22:13] are exposed to these lessons. [22:15] And all of this is obviously [22:16] because you guys allow character counts to continue [22:18] to run in our county and [22:20] because of our partnership with Q-A-C-P-S [22:23] and then some students commented too. [22:24] So I wanted to read you some things [22:26] that come directly from these 10 and 11 year olds. [22:28] This hard audience. I really like Character counts. [22:31] I think it's fun and interesting. [22:32] I hope that character counts stays in my life. [22:35] Another said my character counts is so nice. [22:37] She's fun and taught me [22:38] to care about other people's feelings. [22:40] She taught me good character. [22:42] Another one said I like that it was fun [22:44] and I got to write on paper, not on a computer. [22:47] I really like what they do at Character Counts. [22:49] I want to thank everybody that works at Character Counts [22:51] and helps me learn and have fun. [22:52] Thank you for going out of your way to help us. [22:55] What age is this? This is 10 and 11 year olds. [22:58] Yeah, another said our coach was really fun. [23:01] The best character counts teacher ever. [23:03] She tells stories that in lessons and she plays game [23:06] and she teaches us and the pillars are really the best. [23:09] And so these always make me smile. [23:11] It's one of my favorite things. I also do focus groups [23:15] with outgoing fifth graders who've had character counts now [23:17] since kindergarten to get their impact, the good and the bad [23:21] and the ugly all in between. [23:22] And that went really well. I did that [23:24] with all the outgoing fifth grade classes. [23:26] We had a small group, about five to 10 students. [23:29] I got some really good positive feedback on [23:31] where they wanna see the lessons going in [23:32] particular, which is exciting. [23:35] So I'm working on some new lessons for them. [23:37] The other thing that came up in one [23:39] of those focus groups was the kids really wanting [23:43] to be involved in character counts outside [23:45] of just their character counts lessons in their classrooms. [23:47] We do have student ambassadors in each building [23:50] and those two students in each school get [23:52] to do like announcements and special [23:53] things for character counts. [23:55] But a lot of the fifth graders wanted a bigger role. [23:58] And so in speaking with the school counselor at Matt Peak [24:01] Elementary, we're gonna do a pilot program this coming year. [24:03] We're gonna call it Character in Action, [24:05] which is basically going to be a character counts club. [24:08] So we're gonna allow kids to kind of join it. [24:09] The idea it's, it's kind of being flushed out right now, [24:11] but the idea is that these [24:13] students would choose a civic activity that they want [24:16] to accomplish over the year. [24:17] Something that they see that in the community they wanna [24:19] make a positive difference in. [24:21] And they would work as the leaders of this group to kind [24:24] of organize that, figure out an action plan, figure out [24:27] what they need and make [24:28] that happen over the course of the year. [24:29] And then I would support that through kind [24:31] of like monthly get togethers. [24:33] So we're excited about piloting that at Mad Peak Elementary. [24:37] We do have new lessons coming up. [24:39] Worked on a whole new series [24:41] for our kindergarten first grade group, [24:43] which I told you guys about the children's [24:45] books we're working on. [24:46] Or I'm working on fourth grade lessons right now. [24:48] And then I hope to do also a fifth grade kind of revamp on [24:51] what they, they do in their, their care accounts lessons. [24:55] And then the last thing you mentioned earlier, [24:57] we had a moment of silence for Mr. [24:58] Humphreys. He was an integral part of character counts [25:02] and is a huge loss to me and to this program. [25:06] Not to mention the community at large, [25:08] but the advisory board for character counts wanted [25:12] to do something to honor Wayne's legacy, [25:15] specifically with character counts. [25:17] And so we will have a committee that will meet in September [25:20] and we are going to be working on [25:21] what we're gonna call the Wayne Humphrey [25:23] Student of Character Award. [25:25] So hopefully an outgrowing fifth grader at every elementary [25:27] school will be chosen that exemplifies all six [25:32] of the pillars the way that Wayne did. [25:34] So we're looking forward to honoring him in that way. [25:37] And then as always, we're always looking for volunteers. [25:39] It is the summer, but I am already [25:41] thinking of next school year. [25:42] So all of you guys, I've got lots [25:44] of openings as of right now. [25:46] I'm going to speak to the board of Ed [25:48] in next month in August as well. [25:52] Businesses of character, if you guys have a business in the [25:54] county that wants to join us and kind [25:56] of help us promote our mission, [25:57] we're always looking for that. [25:58] And also advisory members. [25:59] I love getting feedback and my advisory council [26:01] is a great sounding word for me. [26:03] So that's pretty much the update. [26:05] I think I covered everything where [26:07] We're at. [26:08] So I have, not a question but more of a suggestion. [26:11] So getting back to that group [26:12] that you talked about, a fifth graders. [26:14] Yes. This new, what are you calling it again? [26:16] We're calling it Char, I'm [26:17] gonna call it Character in action. Character [26:19] In action. [26:20] So just like the club. So I feel [26:20] that the transition from fifth grade to middle school, [26:24] there's a huge disparity and [26:29] and desire to be cool in middle school. [26:32] Yeah. And I think that adds pressure to the kids [26:36] who have really focused as fifth graders or pre-K [26:39] or kindergarten up to fifth grade [26:41] and have practiced the six pillars of character [26:44] for those five years that they were in elementary school. [26:47] And then all of a sudden now they're faced [26:48] with a different dynamic. [26:50] And I think one of the focuses for this group [26:52] that you're talking about is somehow helping them transition [26:57] to the middle school level [26:58] and understand that the honoring those six [27:01] pillars is still important. [27:03] I completely agree. And one of the things [27:05] that I'm really looking forward to this particular group is [27:08] creating it an opportunity for children [27:09] to take leadership roles. [27:11] Because I think that that establishes self-esteem. [27:13] But to your point, when I sat down [27:15] with the fifth grade focus groups, one of the things [27:18] that came up and which is, which is why I wanna revamp kind [27:20] of our fifth grade lessons, is [27:22] that the fifth graders were very eager to kind [27:25] of flip the pillars a little bit. [27:26] In fifth grade. They said, you know, kindergarten [27:28] through fourth grade and currently through fifth grade, [27:31] the pillars are always about what you can do for others. [27:33] How can you be kind? How can you be a trustworthy person? [27:36] How can you show respect and all of those things. [27:38] So the fifth graders were like, you know, [27:40] we really need lessons on how to have self-respect, how [27:44] to be responsible to ourselves, how to be true [27:46] to ourselves, those type of things. [27:48] So the lessons are gonna kind of flip a little bit. [27:50] And so we're gonna be more reflective [27:51] and self self-focused in fifth grade is [27:53] what I'm looking forward to doing. [27:56] But I'm a former fifth grade teacher, [27:57] so I know exactly what you're talking about. [27:59] And it doesn't necessarily start when they hit sixth grade. [28:03] It's usually about January [28:04] of fifth grade when they come back from their holiday break, [28:07] something has flipped in these fifth graders [28:09] and it's, they're completely different students. And [28:11] The desire to be cool [28:12] and accepted at the middle school level. [28:14] Yes. And sacrificing some of those, those characters [28:18] that they haven't exhibited all those years thinking I gotta [28:21] ditch 'em because I'm now in middle school. And [28:24] Middle school is a huge age [28:25] of transition for these students. [28:26] Yep. And they're trying to figure out who they are [28:28] and how they relate in their groups. [28:30] And their groups are changing. It's, [28:31] it's a very difficult transition. [28:34] And so we are hoping that with, [28:35] by switching up the fifth grade lessons a little bit [28:38] and making them more in introverted, [28:40] we'll give these students a little bit more [28:43] just self-esteem, self-confidence, power to to say no [28:46] or power to make the hard, those hard choices. [28:48] 'cause it is hard for those kids to do that. [28:50] But also walking the fine line of, you know, [28:52] my volunteers are just that they're volunteers. [28:54] They're not psychologists, they're not educators. [28:56] We wanna make sure that we're giving them lessons [28:58] that are broad enough [29:00] but we're not imposing, I don't know, [29:03] self doctrines on kids. [29:05] We want them to just give them tools to be self confident. [29:10] Good. Awesome. Anything else? Thank you. [29:13] All right. I'll see You guys soon. Thank [29:14] you for the update. Yeah, [29:15] Of course. [29:16] Thank you. Thank you. [29:21] Next commissioners we have [29:23] Director Scott Hall from emergency services with [29:28] his update today and that can be located in your book [29:32] tab six, item two, pages two through 23. [29:35] And we also have it up on the screen here as well. [29:39] Good morning, Senator Director Haas. [29:40] Yes, good morning. Good morning everyone. [29:44] It's nice to be here in the morning. [29:47] We've been told to hold this to 10 minutes [29:49] so we're gonna speak really fast. [29:52] If you could hold your questions till the end, [29:54] I'm sure you'll have a couple questions for us. [29:55] Each one of us is timed out how long it's gonna take us [29:58] to do our, our component of it. [30:00] So I am going to immediately turn it over to Lori [30:03] to go over special operations. [30:04] How much time does she get and just keep Yeah, [30:07] how much time does she get about the more [30:09] not enough the more [30:10] We pause what time I'm gonna get. [30:13] Alright, so good morning. [30:15] I just wanna do a general recap of special operations. [30:18] It's kind of a vague overview of our staffing. [30:22] We've done some remodeling [30:23] and this is what our staff looks like now. [30:25] We have eight full-time employees [30:27] and we are anywhere from emergency management to logistics [30:30] to training under the emergency management umbrella. [30:33] Some of the things that we are currently involved [30:35] in or project updates. [30:37] We have recently submitted four grants for the county. [30:42] There's a list of them there. [30:43] We are also starting to work on our continuity operations. [30:46] We'll be reaching out to county departments very soon [30:49] so we can work on our continuity of the county government. [30:53] We're updating our strategic plan. [30:55] We are constantly working on our emergency operations plan [30:58] and evolving that. [31:00] So that's in case of any large scale emergency. [31:03] But we also work with individual groups this year we're, [31:07] we were contacted by the four H Fair so [31:11] that we can help them come up [31:13] with a safety plan for this summer. [31:16] And I think you'll see some added benefit to that [31:18] during four each week. [31:20] And then we also worked with hole in the wall over the last, [31:23] I would say three years to get them up and running. [31:26] And they're currently doing that. [31:27] We're working on a dam plan [31:29] and a dam exercise for all the dams [31:32] that are in Queen Annes County. [31:34] And then that is a mandate by the state. [31:37] We do that every five years. [31:38] And then we also continually touch the, [31:42] our emergency response team [31:44] or our cert team is active and growing. [31:47] We are in the schools, both high schools [31:49] and we are now expanding to two middle schools. [31:51] We did one last year. [31:54] We're also continually working on CPR staff, [31:57] the lead training and public outreach events. [32:01] Our logistics group, it consists of the radio, [32:04] the CAD analysts and the inventory control. [32:08] And then we have our training group [32:10] and they are training mostly in-house coordinating out of [32:16] out of our department to get enhanced training for EMS, [32:19] special operations and [32:22] and communication. And that is [32:26] Alright on EMS. [32:29] So first thing I wanna highlight is our staffing. [32:31] So this is our current staffing based off of [32:33] what we had coming out of FI 26. [32:35] This doesn't include that FFY 27 seventh unit. [32:39] So the important thing is from baseline we have zero [32:41] vacancies right now, which I'm proud of. [32:43] We've got one staff member that's in the process [32:45] to precept from EMT to paramedic. [32:48] We have four more that are in their mentoring process [32:49] to set them up for success to move up. [32:51] And then we have another four that are [32:52] enrolled in paramedic class. [32:53] So we're doing really well investing in our staff [32:55] and building a pipeline of a LS providers for us. [32:59] Fall volume wise, you can look from 24 [33:02] to 25 we saw enhancement [33:03] or increases across the board in calls, transports [33:06] and depletions in 2026 were already [33:09] projected to be ahead in calls. [33:11] Transports are lagging a little bit behind then [33:14] what they would've been at this time last year. [33:15] But also June to September is the busy months [33:18] with the summer traffic. [33:20] So we expect that those numbers will probably hike up a [33:22] little bit over the company once. [33:26] Looking at our response times for our 1275, [33:28] we're holding pretty consistent around 13 [33:31] and a half minutes on our 70th percentile. [33:33] We're also highlighting the 90th percentile [33:35] 'cause it's something in our [33:36] strategic plan that we're looking at. [33:37] And that's kind of an industry standard [33:38] that you really wanna start with Nate, [33:40] your 90th percentile times, which we hold close [33:42] to 17 minutes right now. [33:44] Something that's contributing to challenges in our division [33:48] and we're seeing an increase in major [33:49] incidents throughout the county. [33:52] We've got a lot of large accidents. [33:54] We've had a couple of search operations that have happened [33:56] and we're seeing an increase in our priority cardiac [33:58] and respiratory patients. [34:00] And things to notice is [34:01] that these high acuity calls require multiple units [34:04] of people to manage the severity [34:06] of these people projects underway. [34:09] You guys are familiar with the whole blood grant. [34:11] We've talked about that last month. [34:12] We're just waiting for the funding to be released [34:14] to move forward with that project. [34:16] The replacement supervisor unit that we ordered in November [34:19] of last year is on the production line [34:21] and we anticipate to see delivery of it in September. [34:24] The cardiac monitors that you guys approved for us to do, [34:26] we have taken delivery of them [34:28] and we will do be doing training in the month of August [34:30] with a target in service date of August 26th. [34:33] And then we're also expanding our rapid sequence induction [34:36] program, which is the highest level [34:37] of innovation in airway care that we do. [34:39] Thanks to Lori's training folks, we're able [34:41] to really train up some folks outside [34:43] of our supervisor cadre [34:44] that were the only ones that had that skill. [34:45] So we're gonna increase the level of service to the citizens [34:48] of Queens County through that transport unit updates. [34:52] So we've got two new Fesco units that are [34:55] arrived in November and are in service. [34:57] The unit that we ordered in July of 23, [34:59] we finally got a production number on [35:01] and we're expecting to see that [35:02] around Thanksgiving of this year. [35:04] And then we currently have two units on order from Fesco [35:07] that were approved on August 27th [35:09] and shortly we'll be asking you for another one 12 [35:12] to 18 month lead times on those. [35:15] And last thing I know it's on [35:16] all your mind The seventh unit. [35:17] So we have two paramedics for that unit that are scheduled [35:21] to start on August 12th. [35:23] We are open for EMT positions up until tomorrow afternoon. [35:26] We are gonna be conducting interviews on the 21st. [35:29] We're hoping to grab a couple of them to start in [35:32] that August 12th cadre. [35:33] And if not, we'll put them on an eligibility [35:35] list to start them in October. [35:37] With that, I'll over to Scott. [35:40] All right, so next on list is communications. [35:42] Phil thought it would be great to take a vacation. [35:45] So he was unavailable to come [35:46] today, so I'm taking his place. [35:49] The good news with our communications division is, [35:51] is we have 25 or 23 full-time staff. [35:55] Zach had to make us look bad, [35:56] but we have one vacancy and he has zero. [35:58] So we're working on the one vacancy just [36:02] orientation wise, when we do have a vacancy [36:05] and we bring in a new employee from scratch, [36:07] it takes us about 1200 hours to train the person [36:09] to get them fully functional by themselves on the floor. [36:13] So it's usually a huge ordeal [36:15] for us when we do have a vacancy call. [36:17] Volume wise, we're running just a little under 62,000 calls [36:22] to the center so far this year. [36:24] Of those calls, 28,000, [36:27] a little under 28,000 were emergency calls into the center [36:30] and required emergency services. [36:37] Phil has successfully passed the state 9 1 1 board [36:41] inspection, which is an annual inspection that we go through [36:45] and we actually passed with flying [36:46] colors and we're very proud of that. [36:48] Phil has also upped his QA and QI are quality assurance [36:52] and quality improvement programs throughout the division [36:55] and we've been lucky that the 9 1 1 board has funded a lot [36:59] of applications that we can use [37:01] to help us do quality assurance and quality improvement. [37:04] One thing that you approved several months ago was the [37:07] upgrade to our Vesta nine one one phone system [37:09] and it has been delivered, it's sitting in the warehouse [37:12] and we have a anticipated completion date of the upgrade [37:16] late August timeframe [37:18] and we should have a newly functional nine one one [37:20] phone system in the center. [37:22] We're currently coordinating efforts [37:24] with Talbot County's 9 1 1 Center to use their backup center [37:27] as our backup center when the courthouse gets its [37:30] renovations in the upcoming year. [37:33] Currently our IT department is working [37:36] with their IT department to make that happen. [37:38] And we still have a long way to go but we're hopeful [37:41] and confident that we'll be able to use Bert's Backup Center [37:44] as our backup center during [37:46] that timeframe of the renovations. [37:48] Last on the list is we recently had an audit done [37:52] through the 9 1 1 board to analyze our rate [37:57] that we charge on the phone bills. [37:59] If you're, if you remember about two years ago we raised our [38:02] rate from I think 75 cents to a dollar 50. [38:06] And it took us about two years to do that process. [38:08] Thank you Commissioner Wilson for getting in the middle [38:10] of it and expediting that process [38:13] even though I wouldn't really call it expediting it, [38:16] but you moved it along a lot quicker than what it could. [38:19] They basically on their analysis feel [38:21] that we could up up our fee [38:23] to $3 if we're comfortable doing that. [38:26] We can't do that currently. [38:27] I'm just putting a a a a reminder [38:30] that we could potentially do this [38:33] December timeframe is when we need, need [38:35] to start considering it and start [38:36] having conversations on it. [38:37] And why my bringing it up is the 9 1 1 board is not capable [38:41] of funding to the same levels that it has in the past [38:44] because the technology change. [38:46] There is a large brunt on the money for the grants [38:49] that the 9 1 1 board, which will require us to pay more [38:52] for services that the board has covered in the past. [38:55] The good news is I am currently a voting member on the board [38:59] and Jeff Rank sitting behind me is probably gonna get even [39:03] with me for talking to him into being a [39:05] member of the 9 1 1 board. [39:07] But he is the fiscal administrator that's on a 9 1 1 board. [39:11] I'm very proud of both of us being able to to participate in [39:14] that and thank you Jeff for saying yes [39:16] and you'll probably never say yes to me ever again. [39:22] Next on the list is fire Marshal Jeff, take it away. [39:24] So I'm Jeff Morgan, I'm a fire [39:26] marshal for Queen Hills County. [39:29] Currently in our office we have two full-time people. [39:32] We have a one fire marshal [39:35] and then one full-time fire inspector, two plans examiner. [39:38] And we have five part-time contract personnel, [39:42] which includes one part-time fire inspector, [39:44] two plans examiner and four part-time inspectors. [39:48] These are the stats from January through June. [39:52] They're half year stats. [39:54] It averages to 183 activities plan reviews per month, [40:00] which breaks out to nine average activity plan reviews per [40:03] county workday, which excludes holidays and weekends. [40:07] If you look at the stats over on the side, [40:09] I'll just point out a few of 'em. [40:10] The bucket final, [40:11] which are residentials in the county residential units, [40:15] it's 121 we've done so far this year. [40:19] Hydros are 124 [40:23] and the inspections we've done is 269. [40:27] We've had three complaints that we follow up on [40:29] and those are citizen complaints that come in [40:31] through an email system. [40:33] They can go online to the fire marshal, [40:35] they can put in whatever problem they have [40:37] and we'll come out and we'll take a look at [40:39] what the issue is and get back to 'em if they So a desire. [40:42] And we've done 277 plan reviews this year so far. [40:46] And our total right now is 1,094. [40:50] And then this is a breakdown from 2018 when I took over [40:54] to the present and you can see the, [40:56] the reds are all the activities such as inspections, [41:01] bucket tests, complaints, anything like that. [41:04] And the greens are the plan reviews [41:05] that we've done in those years. [41:07] And he says this is for calendar year. So that's all I have. [41:13] So at the end, there's one thing that Lori forgot [41:15] to mention, and I am not walking outta here without [41:18] mentioning it 'cause I'm very proud of it. [41:20] But the Maryland Emergency Management Association recognized [41:23] Queen Annes County Special Operations Division [41:25] with two awards this year, which I'm extremely proud of. [41:28] One of 'em for Queen Annes County was a multi-agency [41:31] sheltering exercise. [41:34] Received the preparedness project [41:36] of the year award for that. [41:38] The second award that she received was [41:40] for Queen Anne County Cert program [41:43] and we received the community project [41:45] of the year award for that. [41:47] Why is that significant? Because there are 26 primary local [41:51] jurisdictions that compete for these awards. [41:53] There's basically six of 'em throughout the year. [41:56] We receive two of 'em, which is unheard of. [41:58] We've got a staff of three lori's part-time of that staff [42:01] of three doing emergency management work. [42:04] And most of these agencies in the larger jurisdictions have [42:07] well over 20 people working in their [42:09] emergency management division. [42:10] So we're outperforming with three compared to [42:13] what the larger jurisdictions are doing. [42:15] So I'm extremely proud of that. [42:16] And that's the end of our [42:17] presentation. So you have any questions? [42:19] Very good. So what Scott saying is if we reduce his [42:21] workforce a little bit more, they work harder, right? [42:26] And we get more awards Reputation, what I said [42:29] So much for job security, Great job on those awards. [42:32] I, I think people, what they don't see is sort [42:35] of the local government working quietly, the background. [42:38] And it's a lot of the planning [42:39] and preparation that you do for if there's an emergency [42:41] that allows you to respond so effectively [42:44] and people don't see those exercise going on, [42:47] but they're constantly being evaluated [42:49] and it's amazing work that you guys do. So thank you. Thank [42:52] You. [42:53] Well, one thing, you guys have always been role players [42:54] for us on, on these drills. [42:56] I think you won a an academy award Commissioner Moran on, [43:00] on a couple that you've done for us. [43:01] And Phil has always been behind us on everything that we do [43:06] and basically is on a unit every time we [43:08] have an event that we're covering. [43:09] So, so all of you thank you for [43:11] What do for, well I I'm gonna get, hopefully I get one [43:13] more chance, one more attempt at working [43:15] the, the Bay Bridge race. We are [43:17] Hoping, hoping that you are there for us. Yeah, [43:19] That I just, just one discouraging comment [43:24] regarding your presentation [43:26] and certainly out of your control, [43:28] but you talk about units that we ordered in 2023 and [43:32] and we're and they've just entered production. [43:35] Yep. So, you know, trying to plan that far out on, on [43:39] and anticipate what our needs are gonna be in the future, [43:41] knowing how long it takes to get equipment in. [43:44] So kudos to you and your staff. [43:47] I I just become a common factor that you guys lead, [43:51] you know, the state in a lot of categories [43:53] and that a lot of organizations in other county [43:56] jurisdictions want to be like us. [43:57] So kudos to you guys. Outstanding work. We [44:01] Appreciate your support. [44:02] Well we couldn't do our work without you, [44:03] so thank you for everything you do for us. [44:05] So, real quick question, Lord, has the state [44:07] or is there any rumblings of the state addressing the [44:10] battery emergency systems in terms of [44:14] from an emergency management standpoint [44:16] because we're only gonna be able to hold 'em off for so long [44:20] and one of the fears is they get in [44:22] before we actually have a plan [44:23] on how we're gonna deal with [44:24] 'em. If something was to happen. [44:25] We have not heard anything or the state but, and [44:28] It has not hit a state level on the emergency management [44:30] Side at all. Okay. [44:31] We talked about battery storage for [44:33] Solar large. [44:34] Yeah. Actually it's gonna be more than just solar now. [44:37] It's gonna be for a lot of things. Yeah, yeah. [44:39] Standalone and everything else. So yeah. All right. [44:42] Well between that and data centers [44:45] and everything else, [44:46] we're not worried about data centers right now. [44:47] We got, we got more, [44:49] We got a year reprieve [44:50] There, but, but you're not wrong. [44:51] That's where the, that's where the big battery, [44:54] I was out Frederick County at [44:55] that hyper data center out there [44:57] and a number of batteries they're gonna have out there. [44:59] If that catches own fire, the whole county's gonna go. [45:01] I mean there's just no way they're gonna contain that. [45:02] Right. 180 acres of batteries. [45:05] It's just gonna have to let it burn out. Yeah. [45:07] It's the only way to do it. Yeah, unfortunately. Anyway. [45:10] Well that's good to know the state's on it. [45:13] Be some Well thank [45:15] you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you [45:16] Scott, while you're here. [45:17] Commissioners, they, they had two action items. [45:19] Do you wanna cover those real quickly? Yep. [45:21] Alright, So if you wanna turn to tab number three, [45:22] commissioners tab three, item number 11, [45:26] pages 46 through 50. [45:27] This is for the emergency services billing rate increase [45:31] proposal in the addition of a lift assist [45:33] and treatment without charge transport charge fee. [45:37] So they've conducted an analysis of their current rates, [45:41] Medicare reimbursement trends, inflation factors, [45:44] and looking at neighboring jurisdictions. [45:47] And it's been determined that our existing rates are [45:49] significantly below regional benchmarks [45:52] and there is a recommended increase of 200% in those [45:56] transport charges to better align with prevail market rates [45:59] and improve cost recovery. [46:00] And to establish a charge for lift assist responses, [46:04] which are an increasing, increasing in call volumes as well. [46:09] So [46:12] I move to approve the increase in ambulance billing rates [46:14] and authorize the implementation of charges [46:17] for lift assistance services [46:19] and treatment without transport services as recommended [46:21] by EMS and slash mc. [46:26] Second, We have a motion [46:27] to second any further discussion on this item? [46:30] Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. [46:33] Aye. Aye. Opposed? So moved. [46:35] Thank you commissioners. And item 12 on pages [46:38] 51 through 54. [46:40] This is a request to order an additional ambulance [46:44] with an expected delivery date of 18 to 24 months. [46:47] As we we know, we have [46:51] a Huston Houston Galveston area contract purchasing program [46:55] agreement that will enable the department [46:57] to procure a 2027 Ford F five 50 [47:01] for $394,259. [47:05] I move to authorize the director of the department of EMS [47:08] to purchase 1 20 27 Ford F 5 54 [47:13] by four Horton Model 6 23 ambulance [47:17] through the Houston Galveston Area Council [47:21] Cooperative Purchasing Program from Fesco Emergency Sales [47:25] for $394,000 and [47:29] $259. [47:31] Second, We have a motion and a second on this item. [47:35] Any discussion? Seen none. [47:37] All those in favor signify the saying aye. Aye. Opposed? [47:40] So moved. [47:42] Thank you commissioner. Alright, thank [47:43] You. [47:44] Motions a little lower on that, huh? [47:44] And the last one, the stretcher [47:46] And the power lit Separate on [47:49] That, that so it, [47:50] if we know it's under 400,000, it's like woo. [47:52] If we ordered that As [47:54] A 20% markup, if you order it [47:56] through them versus going straight to the manufacturer [47:58] On this, I I assume that sooner [48:00] or later you're, [48:02] your orders this make four that we're waiting on now. [48:04] Yes. So we're not gonna put 'em all in service [48:08] when they come. [48:09] 'cause you're gonna end up with a, a year in your cycle [48:12] that you're gonna have to replace four ambulances. [48:14] They're gonna stagger as they come in. Yeah. [48:16] So, but we need to, the fleet [48:19] that we have on the street right now, we need [48:21] to replace desperately. [48:22] So we'll transistor 'em as quick as we can. [48:26] Okay. Thank you. [48:27] Thank you commissioners. Thank you. All [48:29] Right. [48:30] Thank you. Great presentation. [48:30] And and Todd, I'm [48:31] sorry, I think we're a couple minutes. No, [48:32] You're fine. [48:33] We're good. Alright. [48:35] Commission sticking with our action [48:37] items in tab number three. [48:38] We'll go back to item number onell leading off Proclamation [48:42] 26 19 Parks and Recreation Month. [48:47] That explains everything. That [48:49] Explains a lot. It's Parks and [48:50] Recreation month. [48:51] That's right. That explains a [48:52] Lot. [48:53] There's a theme [48:55] And it's FY 27 Now. [48:56] Yeah. What did they say? Go when the [49:00] Hooker's hot or whatever back. [49:02] Well then it's hot strike. Well it's hot, right? [49:05] I've got good practice. [49:10] So I You want me to read the proclamation first? Sure. [49:12] Or have him go and then justify it. Nevermind. All right. [49:16] Proclamation 26 19. [49:19] Whereas Parks [49:20] and Recreation are an integral part [49:22] of communities throughout this country, [49:25] including Queen Anne's County and Wears Parks [49:27] and Recreation promotes health [49:29] and wellness, improving the physical [49:31] and mental health of people who live near parks [49:34] and wears Parks and Recreation, [49:36] encourages physical activities by providing space [49:38] for popular sports, hiking trails, swimming pools, [49:42] and many other activities designed [49:44] to promote active lifestyles. [49:48] You should probably have umpiring in in there as an activity [49:54] Where has parks and recreation programming education [49:57] activities such as out [49:58] of school time programming youth sports [50:00] and environmental education are critical [50:02] to childhood development. [50:04] And whereas Parks and Recreation increases a community's [50:08] economic prosperity through increased property values, [50:11] expansions of local tax base, increased tourism, [50:16] the attraction and retention of businesses [50:18] and crime reduction. [50:20] And whereas Parks and Recreation are fundamental [50:23] to the environmental, environmental [50:25] wellbeing of our community. [50:27] And whereas Parks and Recreation are essential [50:29] infrastructures that make our communities resilient in the [50:32] face of natural disasters and climate change. [50:36] And whereas parks and where our parks [50:38] and natural re recreation areas ensure the ecological beauty [50:43] of our community and provide a place for children [50:46] and adults to connect with nature [50:48] and recreate outdoors, [50:50] which has a positive impact on mental health and wellbeing. [50:53] And whereas the US House of Representatives is designated [50:57] July is Parks and Recreation month now [51:01] therefore be it resolved by Queenan County Board [51:03] of County Commissioners. [51:05] The July is recognized as Parks [51:07] and Recreation month time [51:09] by the Queen Annes County Commissioners. [51:12] Thank you. And while he's here [51:15] That's right. [51:17] While we're here, it is the beginning of a new fiscal year. [51:19] So we have the next three items. [51:20] Item two, three and four are [51:22] for new field lighting projects using the Keystone [51:26] purchasing agreement with Muscow. [51:28] The first one is for White Marsh Park [51:31] lighting on one baseball diamond [51:32] and installation of additional infrastructure [51:34] for future field lighting. I move to all, [51:37] Lemme Finish, you're done. No, [51:39] No we're gonna because we're gonna do all three together. [51:43] Okay. Okay. Yeah. The second one is at bat's neck [51:48] for one baseball diamond retrofitting the artificial turf [51:51] field lighting and electrical panel bat's neck park. [51:54] And the third item, item four is [51:57] for a softball field at Bat's Neck Park as well. [52:00] I moved to authorize the Department of Parks [52:02] and Recreation to contract with Musco to install lighting [52:05] for number one one baseball diamond [52:07] and install infrastructure [52:08] for future field lighting at White Marsh Park for a total [52:11] of $525,368 two one [52:16] baseball diamond retrofitting the artificial turf field [52:19] lighting and electric panel work at Bats Neck Park [52:21] for a total of [52:22] six hundred seventy eight five hundred and thirty $2,000 [52:26] and three one softball field at Bats Neck Park [52:29] for an apartment amount [52:32] of $294,035 contingent upon [52:35] grant funding from DNR program. Open space. [52:40] Second. Second. We have a motion [52:42] and a second on these three items. [52:44] Any discussion? None. [52:46] All those in favor signify by saying Aye. Aye. Aye. [52:48] Opposed? So moved. [52:50] Alright. Actually I know we've already made [52:52] but I just want just a quick comment [52:53] and I apologize 'cause you raced through that. [52:55] But I think it's significant to remember that [52:58] by putting these lights on the fields we're we're expanding [53:01] the ability to use those diamonds beyond [53:03] what daylight hours offer. [53:05] So it's important because with this huge need for Fields [53:10] usage, with all the different youth sports organizations [53:13] that have evolved over the years in our [53:16] community, this is key. [53:18] So huge money well spent. [53:22] Yep. Yeah, sure. Alright. [53:24] The next two items, five and six are for new equipment [53:26] for our parks and recreation department. [53:28] The item five is for [53:30] 2 20 26 Chevrolet 2,500 trucks. [53:34] The second item, item six is for a Ford F five 50 truck [53:40] from Hertrich Fleet Services with a dump bed [53:42] and snowplow package. [53:44] I moved to authorize the Department of Parks [53:46] and recreations to purchase number one two 2026 Chevy 2,500 [53:51] HD trucks with Snowplow packer package from [53:54] Hertrich Fleet Service Inc. [53:56] In Denton, Maryland for $108,688 [54:00] and two one 2027 Ford F five 50 [54:04] truck with dump bed [54:06] and snowplow package from Hertrich Fleet Services Inc. [54:09] In Milford, Delaware for 108,767. [54:14] Second. Okay, [54:16] we've got a motion to second on these two items. [54:18] Any discussion? None. [54:20] All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. [54:23] Opposed? So moved. [54:25] Thank you commissioners. And our final item for [54:28] Director Chanley is a parks stage rental fee increase on [54:32] pages 24 through 26. [54:34] And the Parks and Rec advisory board is recommend [54:36] to increase the rates for stage rental fees [54:39] effective August 1st. [54:41] And essentially this is just for the security deposit, [54:43] transportation and fuel surcharge fees. [54:46] So just recovering our costs to deliver the stage [54:50] If somebody borrow It right or rents it. [54:52] Yes. Those fees are continued to be waived [54:57] for nonprofits and co-sponsored events that [55:00] I move to authorize the Department of Park recreation [55:02] to increase the rates for stage rentals according [55:04] to their updated rate schedule sheet. [55:06] Effective August 1st, 2026. [55:09] Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion? [55:11] Seeing none. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. So [55:17] Thank you. [55:18] Just if you don't mind real quick, because this Parks [55:21] and Recreation month, I'd like [55:22] to acknowledge our recreation staff that is here. [55:25] Yep. We got James Miller, we've got Curtis, [55:29] Nick sti, Liz Pearson, Isabella Cheney, [55:34] and Karen er here. [55:35] And they're the ones who put together, [55:39] that's a big part of our organization that, you know, [55:42] it's a small group and they do a large, [55:44] large activity for all of us. [55:47] So they should be acknowledged [55:48] For. [55:49] Alright, well done. Thank you. Thank you all. [55:49] Thank you again for thanks for being here today. [55:51] Good to see everybody take care. [55:53] You All right? All right, commissioners, moving along. [55:58] Item number eight in your books on pages 27 [56:01] through 28 is an MOU with the Maryland Department [56:03] of Transportation, MDTA [56:05] for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Flagpole. [56:07] And this is a mechanism to allow us to collect donated funds [56:12] for the newly erected flag pole down by the Bay Bridge. [56:22] I move to execute the memorandum of understanding [56:24] with the Maryland Transportation Authority [56:26] for the flagpole located at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge. [56:29] Second, We have a motion to second into discussion. [56:33] So funding mechanisms are payback mechanisms. [56:38] Well, M-M-D-T-A couldn't accept donations from the local [56:42] American legions and VFWs directly. [56:44] So we were acting as a conduit [56:46] to receive those donated funds to help [56:48] Pay and then pass it through [56:49] Pay for that project. Okay. [56:50] Okay. So that, that was really, they, [56:51] they just can't accept those donations. [56:53] So this was a mechanism to allow us to get that [56:55] and gotcha for the project. [56:57] Yeah. [56:59] So not that we would promote gambling of any sort, [57:02] but if you are a member of any of the American Legions post, [57:08] they are gonna be committing half of the proceeds [57:10] that they receive on the machines [57:13] that they have at their location [57:15] towards the payment of this flag. [57:17] So, gamble away [57:22] and if there's an issue and a problem, [57:24] dial the 1-800-GAMBLING problem number. [57:28] Okay. Is there any other discussion? [57:32] Let's get that flag paid for. [57:34] Alright. Seeing none, all those in favor [57:35] signify saying aye a. [57:37] Aye. Aye. Opposed? So [57:38] Moved. Sorry Jim. [57:40] Thank you commissioners. Item nine. [57:42] On pages 29 through 43, we have a, [57:44] a conservation reserve enhancement program, a crep agreement [57:48] of sale and project agreement [57:49] for the relief farm LLC 90.7 acres [57:53] of a 338 acre farm owned by relief farm ready [57:56] to be submitted to Maryland DNR [57:58] for review and final approval. [58:00] No county dollars are associated with this crep easement. [58:04] I move to execute the Crep easement agreement of sale [58:07] and project agreement for the property owned [58:09] by relief farm LLC. [58:11] Second. Got a motion to second. Any discussion? [58:15] Very well. All those in favor sign public saying aye. Aye. [58:18] Opposed? So moved. [58:20] Thank you commissioners. Item 10, [58:23] we have a resolution here. [58:24] This is resolution number 26 0 9. [58:26] It's a slight modification to the moratorium, [58:28] which is resolution 25 12. [58:30] This resolution is to extend the one year deadline on the [58:33] Board of Appeals conditional use approvals that for projects [58:37] that may have been caught up in that, in [58:39] that approval process, that will stay the timeline [58:43] for a particular project and, [58:45] and that the approval which would [58:47] otherwise expire on July 16th, so they will not have [58:50] to return to the Board of Appeals [58:52] for a conditional use approval they've already received. [58:56] I move to adopt resolution 26 0 9 [59:00] Second. [59:03] Okay, we have a motion to second on this. Any discussion? [59:07] And again, this is modifying the moratorium imposed [59:10] by the resolution 25 dash 12. [59:12] Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying Aye. Aye. [59:15] Aye. Opposed? So moved. [59:18] All right. Thank you Commissioners. [59:19] We've completed items 11 [59:21] and 12 with Director Haas, [59:24] item 13 on pages 55 through 57. [59:28] This is from our liquor board. [59:31] This is for performing arts nonprofit organization, [59:34] beer and wine license. [59:36] They, the recently approved [59:39] and voted to pro promote legislation for new beer [59:44] and wine licenses for performing arts groups. [59:48] And the board respectfully requested the commissioners [59:50] forward this particular legislation to the delegation [59:53] for introduction at the next legislative session in 2027. [59:57] And this was generated via the Churchill Theater. [1:00:00] They were requesting a beer [1:00:02] and wine license for plays and shows. [1:00:07] I move that the proposed legislation 27 dash 1 0 2, [1:00:10] performing arts nonprofit organization, beer [1:00:12] and wine license as submitted by the liquor Board, [1:00:13] be forwarded to our legislative delegation [1:00:15] for consideration, an introduction [1:00:18] during the 2027 legislative session. [1:00:20] Second, We have a motion to second any discussion [1:00:24] As the commissioner lays liaison to the board of ed, [1:00:26] I mean to the liquor board, it's, they're constantly coming [1:00:30] to the liquor board for a one day [1:00:32] license or a one event license. [1:00:34] And, and it just made more sense to go this direction, [1:00:37] you know, to give them that, that ability to not have [1:00:41] to keep coming to the liquor board every time [1:00:42] they're gonna have an event at the theater. [1:00:44] So this was something that they discussed and worked out [1:00:48] and it's, it's a good idea. [1:00:51] Perfect. Very good. Any other discussion? Seeing none. [1:00:54] All those in favor? Seat opposed saying Aye. Aye. Aye. [1:00:57] Opposed? So moved [1:00:59] All commissioners. [1:01:00] Item 14 on page 58 is a letter of support [1:01:03] for a grant application being submitted by Hope for All. [1:01:06] And this is for a Veteran's home subdivision located in [1:01:10] Grayville on Melvin Avenue. [1:01:12] And the project would include pre-designed planning, [1:01:16] schematic design, design development, [1:01:18] and vacuum sewer remain upgrades going forward. [1:01:20] So if they get the grant, so nice project, [1:01:25] I move to execute the letter of support to [1:01:28] Maryland Historic Trust for hope [1:01:29] for all Veterans Home Subdivision Project. [1:01:32] Second Honor. Motion to second. Any discussion? [1:01:36] Seeing none. All those in favor signify to say aye. Aye. [1:01:39] Opposed? So moved. [1:01:42] Thank you commissioners. Item number 15 [1:01:45] is a procurement policy addendum and a donation [1:01:49] and sponsorship policy revision on pages 59 [1:01:53] through 110. [1:01:55] So addendum one to the procurement policy supplements are [1:01:58] existing procurement policy specifically [1:02:00] for procurements funding in whole [1:02:01] or part with federal grants Cooperative agreements [1:02:04] or pass through funds locally funded [1:02:07] projects are not effective. [1:02:08] But this basically just puts us into compliance [1:02:10] with the federal uniform guidance [1:02:13] and states that we're at conflicts with any of those [1:02:16] that the, the addendum will control [1:02:17] for federally funded projects. [1:02:19] And secondly, the donation [1:02:20] and sponsorship policy replaces our old donated policy, [1:02:24] a donated property policy with a broader donation [1:02:27] and sponsorship program covering cash, gifts, real [1:02:30] and personal property in kind services, et cetera. [1:02:33] We don't use that very much, but we wanted [1:02:34] to have something, you know, on the books in case we have [1:02:36] those opportunities going forward. [1:02:38] This is just a general update. Yes, [1:02:43] If you have any questions, director Jeff rank [1:02:47] penned this policy in these amendments. So these [1:02:50] I move to prove Addendum one, [1:02:52] federal procurement compliance addendum [1:02:54] to the county's procurement policy 400 dash zero one [1:02:58] and place the county's donation policy [1:03:00] with a new donation sponsorship policy. [1:03:02] 400 dash one both to be effective July 14th, 2026. [1:03:08] Second, we have a motion in a second. [1:03:10] Any other discussion? This isn't gonna make [1:03:12] It more difficult, right? [1:03:15] This isn't gonna make it more difficult for donations. [1:03:22] No. It'll just create some guidelines [1:03:27] to better monitor the donations. [1:03:29] So a lot of donations come in and have restricted uses [1:03:33] and makes sure that we use funds for that [1:03:38] and is, and are entered into our books properly. [1:03:42] And, and, and this authority, [1:03:45] the commissioners have the ability to, to make any kind [1:03:50] of changes or waive certain restrictions [1:03:54] on a case by case basis. [1:03:56] Okay, [1:03:59] Any other discussion? [1:04:01] Seeing none. All those in favor sign public saying aye. Aye. [1:04:04] Aye. Opposed? So moved. [1:04:07] Thank you commissioners. And our final item today is item [1:04:09] 16 on pages 111 through one 14. [1:04:12] This is Budget Amendment CC one for the Board of Education. [1:04:16] This provides $500,000 to the Board of Education [1:04:19] to fund two district-wide rotating behavioralists [1:04:22] and four middle school mental health support staff positions [1:04:25] as approved by the board. Last month [1:04:28] I moved to approve Budget amendment CC one, [1:04:31] increasing the Board of Ed operating budget [1:04:35] by 500,000. [1:04:37] Second. I have a motion in a second. Any discussion? [1:04:41] Move all those in favor. So same aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? [1:04:46] That'll move. Alright, commissioner, [1:04:50] That's all we had. [1:04:51] So we're at just five minutes shy [1:04:54] of pressing public comments. [1:04:56] Part two on the agenda. [1:04:59] There you go. Anything, nothing, nothing online. [1:05:04] Nobody wants to speak. [1:05:06] Alrighty, we'll close pressing public comment. [1:05:08] Go to round table, we'll go backwards. All right. [1:05:13] Happy Bastille Day to our, [1:05:15] our French American Commissioner. [1:05:17] There you go. Mr. Mr. Moran. Thank you. [1:05:19] And Commissioner Ell and do Oh, that's true. Yes. [1:05:22] So I wanted to make sure, acknowledge, [1:05:24] believe we ell for both of you. [1:05:28] And then I wanted this, we, we, [1:05:30] we passed on two text amendments today [1:05:32] to have them have some modifications and coming back in [1:05:37] and we've gotten a bunch of emails [1:05:39] and some for some against, right? [1:05:41] Both split. But it, it highlights an issue [1:05:45] that we've talked about a lot in the past [1:05:47] that it still always seems to escape. [1:05:51] The public dialogue is speaking [1:05:53] to the actual issue that's before it. [1:05:56] So a lot of what we've received against is it's dangerous [1:05:59] because of 3 0 1, [1:06:02] but the ordinance that they're seeking to change [1:06:07] has nothing to do with the proximity to 3 0 1, right? [1:06:11] 'cause 3 0 1 is more than two [1:06:13] and a half times, oh, the distance from that property than [1:06:17] what the minimum safety standards are in the ordinance. [1:06:21] So it's nothing to do with 3 0 1. [1:06:23] It's I think what Carville Price Road is the road. [1:06:26] So if you're saying it's dangerous, right? [1:06:28] And you're saying it's because of 3 0 1, that's not [1:06:32] what the ordinance speaks to. [1:06:33] You really need to speak to what is the volume [1:06:35] of traffic coming off Carville Price Road [1:06:37] that creates the danger. [1:06:39] That's, that's the issue that's being addressed by that. [1:06:43] And I think a lot of people are forgetting that not [1:06:46] to discount the issues with 3 0 1 and safety concerns. [1:06:50] And we have been doing a whole bunch of stuff with the state [1:06:53] to try to address those [1:06:54] and trying to get federal grant funding [1:06:57] to try to improve those intersections. [1:06:58] But, but that's not the intersection, [1:07:00] that's the issue of the ordinance. [1:07:02] And I don't think people are understanding that. [1:07:05] And so a lot of times when people come [1:07:07] and they speak against something [1:07:09] and they're speaking to something that is not the issue [1:07:11] that's coming up and then they [1:07:12] feel like, well, nobody listened to me. [1:07:14] It's like, but you, but you weren't talking about the issue. [1:07:17] So also tech ops, we had the gentleman here talking about [1:07:20] what's the traffic impact of [1:07:22] where the new location for tech ops is. [1:07:24] And I hear all these people saying all this traffic, [1:07:28] but it sounds like to me of people [1:07:30] who don't really know much about tech ops, right? [1:07:33] And they're assuming a traffic flow. [1:07:35] Tech ops does not have hundreds of employees. 25. Yeah. [1:07:39] I mean it's 25 maybe with a new thing they'll get up to 35 [1:07:42] or 40 hopefully more, more jobs. [1:07:45] It's not a lot of traffic that are coming in. [1:07:48] Tech ops does not have a whole lot [1:07:50] of tractor trailers coming in. [1:07:51] I mean, they have a piece of equipment that comes in [1:07:54] a bus from DEA [1:07:57] or you, you have a support van for Spokane Police Department [1:08:02] and it's there for several months being worked on, [1:08:06] not coming in and out. [1:08:09] So it's not a high volume, frankly, if you're worried about [1:08:14] traffic volume is a safety issue for that parcel, [1:08:18] you should want tech ops [1:08:20] because it is probably the least impact to traffic [1:08:23] of any other business that could go there. [1:08:26] And then the other issue when people are writing about it [1:08:29] saying you shouldn't let tech ops there, [1:08:31] or some people will say it's already decided actually yes, [1:08:34] it has already been decided. [1:08:36] It's called zoning. Zoning of what can go into a piece [1:08:39] of property is already decided. [1:08:42] That's why the business chooses that property. [1:08:44] Because if you have a business and you wanna expand [1:08:47] and you go to a real estate agent, you don't say, [1:08:50] show me any piece of property where maybe I could build it. [1:08:52] You say, here's my business, what parcels are available [1:08:57] where I can do what I do. [1:08:59] And zoning will say, yes, [1:09:00] this is already legally allowed there. [1:09:02] So has the decision been already made [1:09:05] that a business like Tech Ops could be in there? [1:09:08] Yes, absolutely. A hundred percent. [1:09:09] That was done a long, long time ago by zoning. [1:09:13] It has been zoned for that. [1:09:14] So the decision is not whether a business [1:09:17] like that could go there. [1:09:18] It is. Does the concept plan fit within the requirements? [1:09:22] And so if, if there's opposition to that, you need [1:09:25] to look at the specific issue that's coming up [1:09:28] before the planning commission. [1:09:29] Because if you speak about like a challenge [1:09:32] to zoning when it's already been zoned, [1:09:34] the planning commission can't change the zoning based on [1:09:37] public comment that would trigger all [1:09:40] kinds of lawsuits for the county. [1:09:42] We did a town hall expressing a lot of [1:09:45] how development works in Queens County [1:09:46] and all the vast rules that are in place. [1:09:49] And it's not just county law. [1:09:51] There's state law, there's federal law [1:09:53] that all impacts these things. [1:09:54] And so it's important whether you're for [1:09:57] or against the project that you're actually looking to [1:09:59] what is the issue that's being decided on. [1:10:01] And then look at the law surrounding that [1:10:03] so you can actually speak to the actual issue. [1:10:04] Because if you're not, you're, [1:10:08] you're not talking about the issue that's being decided. [1:10:10] So you're gonna feel like your voice [1:10:12] wasn't heard or, or impacted. [1:10:14] But if you're not talking to the actual issue, then it's not [1:10:17] what the jurisdiction of that board who's deciding on it, [1:10:20] it's not what they're allowed to decide on. [1:10:22] And I think we get into a lot of times where people get [1:10:26] frustrated or sort of disenchanted [1:10:28] because they're not focusing in on the actual issue. [1:10:31] So I, and and since that came up twice today, [1:10:33] I wanted to point that out again. [1:10:35] I pointed out a lot, and hopefully it starts to click in [1:10:39] with people, but there, there is a vast amount [1:10:42] of laws in place as to where things can and can't go. [1:10:46] And it's not anybody just waving a wand [1:10:48] and deciding at one hearing. [1:10:51] Thank you. So I just wanna put that out there. Appreciate [1:10:53] It, appreciate it. [1:10:54] I'm, I'm, I'm not following that, so I'm good. [1:10:58] I I for my time to, to Chris used, I, I think it, [1:11:02] those were important issues that he made. [1:11:04] Sometimes we, we, we miss the big picture, you know, [1:11:07] we're we constantly looking at things at 37,000 feet [1:11:11] and we're not really looking at the focus of the point point [1:11:13] that's actually trying to be made. [1:11:14] So thank you Chris. Well done. [1:11:18] Patrick Fernos restaurant, worked there, [1:11:23] worked there for years, and then a convenience store. [1:11:27] It seems like this is a issue that is, [1:11:33] as you spelled it out correctly. [1:11:37] Secondly, Wayne Humphreys, what a great man. [1:11:41] He has done so much for the county [1:11:43] so much that we don't know. [1:11:45] He was heavily involved the playground [1:11:50] at Old Love Point. [1:11:54] And I worked with him on that. [1:11:56] And I remember, you know, 25 years ago, him coming to the, [1:12:01] the church talking about this character counts thing. [1:12:04] And he's, he was just a, a really wonderful man. [1:12:09] Third, that blood infusion program I am [1:12:12] really excited about. [1:12:13] Of course we'll never know whoever needs it, [1:12:17] but it is a phenomenal step forward for mobile units [1:12:21] to be able to get access to blood on, you know, [1:12:24] during an MCV on Route 50 or 3 0 1. [1:12:27] It, it really is extraordinary. [1:12:30] And finally, the flagpole, [1:12:35] I would have to say that it's probably [1:12:38] the most positive input I've heard [1:12:40] of since living in the county that the, [1:12:43] and the commissioners put this together, the, [1:12:47] the o overwhelming response was 99 [1:12:50] to 99% Lost it, missed [1:12:53] It, right. [1:12:54] I mean terms like majestic and, and [1:12:57] It made my day. [1:12:58] I woke up as I was [1:12:59] Driving and then when, then when the flag wasn't up, [1:13:01] they just came unglued, like where's fly? Where to go? [1:13:04] But isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? [1:13:06] More excitement than when the Chipotle opened it. [1:13:08] And that was a big deal on Ken Island. [1:13:09] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:13:11] This was much bigger than Chipotle. Yeah, it was. [1:13:14] Anyhow, so it seems like we were able [1:13:17] to rectify part of the problem. [1:13:23] It would still be nice if we could get it to fly [1:13:26] Thanksgiving and Christmas, [1:13:27] but right now that's not on the docket. [1:13:30] So I think we need to either send a letter to, to Richard [1:13:34] and to the governor saying, Hey, you know, can we come up [1:13:37] with more than five or six times a year [1:13:40] where this is gonna fly? [1:13:41] Yes. The smaller flag is a [1:13:46] bandaid, but that's about what it is. [1:13:48] It's beautiful. I went [1:13:49] and looked at it yesterday from Walt Petrie's place. [1:13:52] It's still a pretty big flag. It is. [1:13:54] I mean it's still pretty big. [1:13:56] Commissioner, I don't know if you're on, [1:13:58] have a meeting coming up, [1:14:00] but is there something we can do to try [1:14:04] to get them to put it up more often? [1:14:05] You mean as far as brag, you mean? [1:14:06] Well, I think the thing is we need to take control of it [1:14:10] if, or the American Legion [1:14:13] let the American Legion take it up and put it down. [1:14:15] That's what they do. They're exceptional at it. But [1:14:19] The, the safety concern. [1:14:20] Yeah, safety concern. [1:14:21] Yep. But right now we go out [1:14:23] and change the lettering on the overdoses and deaths. [1:14:28] So I, I think we qualify to be able [1:14:30] to handle putting the flag up and down, [1:14:33] but we'll see them at maco [1:14:35] and we can as a collectively [1:14:38] as a group voice our opinions to that. [1:14:40] I'd like to see 'em bump up the size of the interim flag. [1:14:43] It's 10 by 15, let's jump up one or two sizes [1:14:45] and seats, you know, 15 by [1:14:47] 25. [1:14:48] 15 by 25. This one now the, the smaller [1:14:51] One. [1:14:52] Yeah. Okay. So the big one's [1:14:52] 30 by 50. [1:14:53] Right. So it's half. [1:14:55] And that's, and that's a monumental task [1:14:56] to take that down and raise it. [1:14:58] It takes multiple people. Yeah. [1:15:00] And obviously concerns, you know, with the weather and, [1:15:03] and how quick the weather can change and, [1:15:05] and getting somebody there to get that down. [1:15:08] There's a lot of, I mean, again, we, we talk about terms [1:15:11] of like majestic, [1:15:12] but understand there's a, the human aspect of it on [1:15:16] what it takes to make that majestic look happen. [1:15:19] And then I think that's where a lot of the, [1:15:22] the devil is in the details and getting that done. So [1:15:25] Between the county and the American Legion, [1:15:27] I think we could figure it out. [1:15:29] Yeah, I'd love to see that work out. Yeah. [1:15:33] But that again, you know, addressing the issues. [1:15:36] But perhaps maybe, you know, M Mdot does some training [1:15:40] for a handful of these Legion members, you know, and, [1:15:42] and so they understand the processes [1:15:45] and what some of the restrictions will be and just coming [1:15:48] and going to that area on the bridge again. [1:15:51] That's the concern. Right. [1:15:52] Again, I don't think it's a safety issue. Where do [1:15:55] They park? [1:15:56] How do they get there? Right. [1:15:56] And they don't have the proper, you know, vehicles [1:15:59] that have all the lights on it. [1:16:01] Yep. The nine yards. So the county does, [1:16:03] and we've done, like I said, we've maintained the sign, so [1:16:06] it'd be nice to have the support of the American Legion, [1:16:08] but, you know, we'll, we'll do the, you know, [1:16:11] put people out there to do it. [1:16:13] We'll have that discussion at Mako [1:16:15] and we'll go from there. Yep. [1:16:17] Our, I, I mean respectfully, our, our DW [1:16:21] and our sheriff, I mean, they're, they're on 3 0 1 every day [1:16:25] or Route 50 and they're, [1:16:27] they're pulling off in the median to do something. [1:16:30] Right. Even though it's a state road. [1:16:31] They're picking up this, they're doing that. [1:16:34] I think we could figure it out. [1:16:35] Yeah, Well if they would, if they would let us do it. [1:16:39] Well again, that's the goal, right? Okay. [1:16:45] It Patrick? Yes sir. Alright, Jeff, [1:16:48] Just a shout out to the red Exco. [1:16:50] I got to witness 'em. Well, yesterday, well [1:16:53] Done. [1:16:54] They had eight of 'em, nine people lined up [1:16:57] and I actually witnessed him, somebody behind me, two cars [1:17:00] behind me, tried [1:17:02] to jump in when they saw the police up in the distance [1:17:04] and got right two cars behind me. [1:17:07] And as we got up there, I looked back [1:17:08] and that guy was out there, he just yanked him. [1:17:10] Even though it was a half mile back, [1:17:12] he still grabbed him from behind me [1:17:13] and said, no, you're over there. [1:17:14] And they had, I'm gonna say they had 10 [1:17:16] or 11 there, the car hold over just Oh yeah. [1:17:18] Writing a ticket. So I loved it, loved it. [1:17:20] Didn't have to ride down the middle and keep 'em out. [1:17:22] So, yeah, that's all I got. I got nothing. [1:17:25] So motion, make a motion to adjourn.