[0:10] Cold [0:10] Order. Alright, we're gonna bring this [0:11] Meeting to order. [0:13] Alright, good evening everybody. [0:15] Welcome to the Queen Annes County Commissioners meeting. [0:17] This is a public meeting that is being [0:19] aired live on our local, local cable television station, [0:22] QA CTV seven. [0:24] These media broadcasts provide county citizens an [0:26] opportunity to watch and participate in scheduled public [0:29] meetings for the county commissioners. [0:31] In addition to the live audience this evening, [0:32] we are providing remote options for citizens [0:34] to watch county commissioner meetings. [0:36] Citizens may watch our meeting live on our website at [0:39] qac.org/live [0:41] or on our television channel Breeze Line channel seven [0:44] and high definition Channel 5 0 7. [0:46] We acknowledge everyone's participation [0:48] and by attending you acknowledge [0:49] that this session is both recorded and aired. [0:51] Press in public comment will be taken [0:53] and is limited to three minutes per person. [0:55] If you do care to speak, [0:57] please sign up at the information table in the lobby. [1:00] Comments longer than three minutes can be submitted in [1:02] writing for the commissioner's review as well. [1:05] We will now stand and be led in the [1:06] Pledge of Allegiance by commission. [1:07] President Jim Moran, [1:10] I pledge allegiance to flag on the [1:13] United States of America [1:14] and to the republic for which it stands, [1:17] one nation under God invis with liberty and justice for all. [1:26] Alright, again, welcome everybody. [1:28] So the purpose of our meeting this evening is [1:30] to present the county commissioners proposed FY 27 capital [1:35] and operating budgets [1:36] and then receive public comment from folks [1:38] that have signed up and don't fret if you haven't signed up, [1:42] we will call anybody that wants to sign up [1:44] or speak at the end of the meeting [1:46] after the presentation if you choose to do so. [1:49] So with that I want [1:51] to introduce our accounting [1:52] commissioners, your county commissioners. [1:53] So starting here with [1:56] commission at large President Jim Moran. [2:00] Seated next to him is our Vice President [2:03] from District one, Jack Wilson. [2:04] Sitting next to Jack is District two representative [2:07] Patrick McLaughlin. [2:10] Next to him is Phil Elle from District three [2:13] and all the way down at the end [2:15] of the table is Chris Corino from District four. [2:19] Okay, so I have a short presentation [2:21] that provides a high level overview [2:23] of the F fo I 27 proposed budget [2:25] and again, following the presentation, [2:27] we'll we'll be receiving public comments from the audience. [2:31] And again, we have the signup sheets out there [2:33] but we, we'll also take a raise of hand [2:35] for public testimony at the conclusion of the presentation. [2:39] So I see the commissioners are in the front [2:40] row so they can see as well. [2:42] Alright, so here we go [2:47] Again, I am Todd Mon, the county administrator [2:50] and again, this is the county commissioners FY 27 proposed [2:54] operations and capital budget. [2:57] So leading off our FY 27 budget is comes in at [3:01] $231 million. [3:04] That's primarily derived of income tax revenue, [3:06] which is projected to grow by about 14% [3:10] property tax revenue, which is projected to grow about 10%. [3:13] Those are over the FY 25 actuals. [3:16] We do have some new tax revenue from short term rental [3:19] permitting and tax collection for that program [3:23] that increases of over a hundred thousand dollars [3:25] in revenue next year. [3:27] As far as the tax rates, [3:29] the county commissioners have two tax rates that they set. [3:31] The first one is income tax, then as proposed [3:34] to remain the same at 3.2% for FY 27. [3:38] And the good news is the property tax rate. [3:40] The commissioners have proposed a decrease in your property [3:43] tax rate of 3 cents per hundred dollars of assessed value [3:47] and the chart on your left shows that the lion's share [3:50] of our revenue stream comes from income [3:52] and property tax at 86%. [3:58] Some highlights of the operational budget expenditures [4:01] leading off we have the Board of education [4:03] that was funded $8.7 million above the FY 26 allocation. [4:07] That is $8.90, 8.9 million [4:10] above the maintenance of effort requirements. [4:13] We've also added an additional emergency [4:15] medical systems crew. [4:17] A seventh EMS unit has been added to the, to the budget [4:20] to continue to increase [4:22] or decrease our response time [4:24] for emergency services at $1.2 million per year. [4:28] We've also included 16 new positions, [4:31] including a new bus driver for the county ride group, [4:34] a new jury commissioner for our circuit courthouse, [4:38] a communications captain [4:39] for the Department of Emergency Services. [4:41] And as I mentioned earlier, the eight positions [4:43] for the seventh EMS unit. [4:46] For our staffing, we've included funding [4:49] for employee recruitment [4:50] and retention actions, which includes a 3% cost [4:53] of living allowance and pay for performance. [4:56] And our capital plan, we have pego money [4:58] that's gonna be transferred to the capital projects account [5:01] of $4.4 million. [5:06] I wanna talk a little bit about the Board of Education [5:09] appropriations history and the forecast going forward. [5:12] As many of you know, we get funding from both the state [5:15] and the county commissioners for our public school systems. [5:18] So the first I wanted to talk about the state funds. [5:21] The state funding for fiscal year 2027 is [5:23] $45 million and change. [5:26] Unfortunately that's about three [5:28] and a half million dollars less than the original state [5:31] Kerwin funding plan for FY 27 projection. [5:34] So that adds to the deficit, [5:35] which is now at $12 million less than the original state [5:40] Kerwin funding plan allocation was projected for FY 22 [5:43] through FY 27 from our state of Maryland. [5:49] The county funds for fiscal year 27 come in at [5:52] $91.4 million. [5:55] Again, that is $8.8 million [5:58] above the maintenance of effort requirement. [6:00] And this does not include teacher pension liabilities [6:03] or private daycare costs that were shifted [6:06] from the state passed down to the county. [6:09] So on average, the county has been funding above maintenance [6:12] of effort of of about $7 million per year [6:15] for the last several years. [6:19] Now this next slide shows a little graphic representation [6:22] of some of those figures. [6:24] You can see the blue line on the left hand side, that is the [6:29] the actual state funding that we are receiving from the [6:32] for the Board of Education. [6:34] The red line just above that shows where they should be, [6:37] where they projected they would be. [6:39] So you see they're falling a bit short [6:40] for their funding allocations. [6:43] The green line is the county commissioner's allocation. [6:45] You can see they are above the red dash line, [6:49] which shows they are above what the requirement is [6:52] for the maintenance of effort calculations [6:54] for public school funding. [6:57] The the other chart, the K through 12 student population, [7:00] you can see we are experiencing continued [7:05] enrollment deficits for declines. [7:07] We started back in 2017 at 7,397 students. [7:12] We peaked just before COVID at 7,500, over 7,500 students [7:17] and we've been declining ever since. [7:19] In FY 26 we have 7,115 [7:23] students in our school system just [7:24] to give you perspective on funding versus our [7:27] student enrollment. [7:31] All right, this next slide shows the revenue streams [7:35] that we receive as a county government. [7:37] All of them over the past few years we've been very [7:41] conservative out of concern for tariffs [7:43] and potential federal layoffs and impacts [7:47] and other uncertainties with the federal government. [7:50] So we have been conservative with our revenue estimates. [7:53] However, we do continue to see income tax growth in excess [7:57] of state estimates. [7:58] And for next year we are estimating 105.5 million in total [8:02] revenue from income tax. [8:04] And to highlight a few other allocations on this chart just [8:09] below that, our public utility tax is expected to decline [8:12] as utility assets are continuing to decrease due [8:16] to asset depreciation. [8:18] Our recordation and transfer taxes are both increasing [8:22] primarily due to continued strong newham new home sales [8:26] and increased home values. [8:29] Our inter intergovernmental revenue are increasing due [8:33] to increased and higher 9 1 1 fee collections [8:36] and grants for police aid. [8:39] Our interest income is expected to continue to decline [8:43] as the federal government continues [8:45] to slowly lower our interest rates. [8:47] So our total revenue stream for FY 27 at the bottom [8:51] and the FY 27 commissioner budget column is [8:54] $230,000,950 880. [9:03] This graphic depiction just shows where your tax dollars go. [9:07] So 66 cents of every general fund dollar is allocated [9:10] to education and public safety. [9:14] So what does that mean? 43 cents of every dollar goes [9:18] to the public school system Board of Education. [9:21] 23 cents goes to our public safety group, [9:24] which is Emergency Services Police, fire Volunteer Services [9:28] and Detention Center. [9:30] That's followed by general government at 9 cents Public [9:33] Works 7 cents Parks recreation, natural resources 3 cents [9:38] and everything else that's left outside agencies [9:40] and other departments at 15 cents just to give you [9:44] a representation of where those tax dollars are allocated. [9:46] But the takeaway here is two thirds of our operations budget [9:50] goes for education and public safety. [9:56] This is our chart we show every year. [9:57] It's the real property tax rate by county. [10:00] This is all the counties in Maryland and Baltimore City. [10:04] We are very pleased to report that we are projected [10:06] to be the absolute lowest property tax rate in the state [10:10] after the FY 27 decrease of 3 cents per hundred dollars [10:14] of assessed value and [10:15] that's Queen Anne County down there in the yellow bar [10:17] where the star is and everything goes up from there. [10:21] Well over a dollar for most of the counties [10:24] and then Baltimore City all the way to the left hand side [10:28] of the chart over $2 per hundred dollars of assessed value. [10:34] Alright, this next series [10:35] of slides shows the budget expenditures by department [10:40] and the other agencies that we fund outside agencies [10:43] and other debt service and other expenses. [10:47] I will highlight a few things on these, [10:49] but generally our departmental increases are expected [10:53] to increase by about five to 7%, mainly due [10:56] to staff salaries, health insurance and benefit increases. [11:01] So we are expecting additional [11:03] needs in the legal services group due to increasing [11:07] anticipated litigation on some high profile cases. [11:10] Budget and finance is up due [11:13] to additional accounting support [11:14] for the town of Sellersville. [11:16] We just recently acquired their water [11:18] and sewer division as part of the county system along [11:22] with increases for postage expenses for tax bills [11:25] and tax delinquency bills. [11:27] Our human resources group [11:30] expenses do include now a new peer-to-peer counseling [11:32] program for our public safety employees [11:34] and volunteer firefighters. [11:36] So a little bigger increase there. [11:38] Our public housing shows a higher increase as well [11:41] to cover the hiring of an additional employee [11:43] for ongoing maintenance services in our housing group. [11:49] This next slide includes public works [11:51] and parks and recreation. [11:53] So under the public works, [11:55] our animal services division is a bit higher [11:57] for additional kennel equipment, necessary [12:00] emergency lighting and other safety features at our animal [12:04] services shelter under the parks and recreation groups. [12:07] Some good news here, both the airport [12:09] and the golf course are lower due [12:11] to reduced general fund support needed [12:13] to balance their budgets respectively. [12:16] We recently closed on an airport loan [12:18] and we are receiving greater revenue streams from the [12:21] golfing fees at the Blue Herring Golf course. [12:23] So good news there. Okay, [12:27] these are our outside agencies leading off again the board [12:31] of Education with a 10.6% increase as mentioned. [12:34] And that's to cover the cost of mandated cost [12:37] by the Blueprint for Mails education future for primarily [12:40] for salaries for teachers. [12:43] The other agencies that we have listed here, [12:46] the state's attorney's office shows a larger incre larger [12:49] increase to cover new case management software [12:51] for their agency to increase for their increasing caseload. [12:56] Also, the Circuit court is getting an additional jury [12:59] commissioner next year with the help to help them [13:01] with their increased caseload. [13:04] The Board of Elections increases, covers the leasing [13:07] of additional polling book equipment [13:09] and our soil conservation service is lower next year due [13:13] to the reduction in their workforce by one [13:15] and a half full-time equivalents. [13:21] These are the other categories, including debt, other [13:24] and transfers and the operations budget. [13:27] The Board of Education debt is higher next year due [13:30] to the debt service for the new administration building [13:33] and roof projects at both matte elementary [13:36] and matte middle schools. [13:39] Our intergovernmental expenses are increasing due [13:41] to continued increases from for from the State [13:44] S Stat Assessment Office, [13:45] which is a state agency which we pay for now increases [13:49] to town rebates via the tax offset program [13:53] and an increase in the state pension administration fees [13:55] that we must pay. [13:57] Our general insurance is also increasing due to premiums [14:01] and the addition of the public housing authority [14:04] facilities under the county's umbrella. [14:07] And under the transfer section, the capital fund is up due [14:11] to an increase of PEGO funding support, [14:13] which is transferred over [14:14] to the FY 27 capital projects account for capital projects. [14:18] And lastly on this, I'll say that the ag transfer [14:22] is projected to decrease next year due [14:25] to a reduction in the anticipated funding support needed [14:28] for that program. [14:32] So what's changed between this fiscal year [14:34] and next fiscal year And this chart basically just shows the [14:37] revenue increase of 21.5 million [14:40] and the corresponding expenditure increase, [14:43] also a 21.5 million. [14:45] Again, the lion's share [14:47] of the revenue increase is from property taxes [14:50] and income taxes, 16000003.4 million respectively, [14:55] followed by the intergovernmental transfers at 900,000. [14:59] On the expense side, [15:01] we're allocating an additional 8.9 million to the Board [15:04] of Education and our public safety group gets $2.3 million [15:08] in addition next year [15:10] and then the transfer to capital at 3.8 million [15:12] for our capital projects account. [15:19] Okay, now we can move into the capital budget. [15:21] Some highlights here, again, leading off with the Board [15:24] of Education, we've included funding for design [15:27] of the new Centerville Middle School, HVAC, [15:31] replacements at Canard [15:33] and Centerville Elementary, a roof replacement at canard, [15:37] a repaving of all the parking [15:40] surfaces at the Cant Island High School, [15:42] additional bus replacements, furniture replacements, [15:45] and some other small projects. [15:48] Chesapeake College, we've included funding [15:50] for the Queen Edge Technical Center. [15:52] It's a multi-year project funded [15:53] by the five Midshore counties. [15:55] That project is just out now for design [15:58] and we hope to have a groundbreaking ceremony maybe about [16:01] this time next year for that project. [16:04] For our CTE programs, for our emergency services, [16:08] we've included funding for a Motorola console upgrade, [16:12] new ambulances, radio subscriber replacements, [16:15] our public safety network [16:17] and replacement of personal protective gear [16:20] and other projects for the regional hospital. [16:25] We've allocated an overall $5 million note over four years, [16:29] FY 25 through FY 28 [16:32] and this year's allocation is 1.25 million towards the new [16:36] University of Maryland Medical Systems Regional Hospital. [16:43] Continuing with capital we have [16:44] for the housing authority major repairs of our units [16:48] and maintenance for Fisher Manor, Riverside Estates, [16:51] Grasonville Terrace, Terrapin Grove FoxTown, [16:53] and our scattered site housing stock. [16:56] We've included additional funding of 835,000 [17:00] for the volunteer fire companies for purchase of apparatus [17:04] and facility construction. [17:06] For animal services. We've got funding for design [17:09] of a new animal services shelter [17:11] and adoption center planning [17:13] and design money at 300,000 for our Roads division. [17:16] We have funding for a new pedestrian bridge over US [17:19] 53 0 1 on Kent Island. [17:21] That is a large grant funded project, 85% grant [17:25] and that's $3 million we anticipate hopefully receiving [17:28] good award on that here. [17:30] This in the next few months [17:34] for our parks department, we have funding [17:36] for the continuation of the South Island trail expansion, [17:40] capital equipment, athletic field work, major maintenance, [17:44] new field lighting for white marsh and bass neck parks. [17:48] For our recreation group, we have funding [17:50] for land acquisition and design [17:53] and contract development for a new recreation center. [17:56] Also on Kent Island at 10.5 million. [17:59] For general services and engineering, we've included funding [18:02] for renovations of the historic courthouse [18:03] and other county facilities. [18:05] And for our information technology team, we have funding [18:09] for new IT infrastructure [18:11] and other technology associated projects for cybersecurity. [18:17] Again with roads we have 5 million allocated [18:19] for systems preservations, [18:21] for asphalt overlays and capital equipment. [18:24] We have $5 million roughly [18:26] for the Southern Kent Island sewer phases three and four. [18:29] The final two phases for that Route eight sewer expansion [18:32] to include Queen Anne Colony, Kent Moore, Chesapeake State, [18:35] so all Kent Batson, neck Normans and Maneka State. [18:39] And that'll wrap that project up. [18:42] We've got a grant for $3 million to [18:45] improve the Sellersville wastewater treatment plant [18:47] to the new ENR technology. [18:51] And we have $500,000 [18:52] for our next sewer extension project planned [18:55] for Marlin Farms and Dominion. [18:57] And that has another sewer extension project [18:59] to existing communities that have public health concern, [19:03] septic system failures. [19:07] This last slide shows the capital budget by funding source. [19:11] We do have a variety of different funds that we use [19:14] for our capital plan [19:16] and I'll run through those real quickly. [19:17] We've got $4.4 million in pego funding, [19:22] nearly $8 million in grant funding. [19:25] 30.1 million, 30.8 million, excuse me, in bonds. [19:30] 13.2 million capital fund balance. [19:33] We have 5.2 million in loans [19:35] and those are for the sewer projects that get paid back [19:37] with special benefit assessments [19:40] and other funding sources include developer actions [19:43] and special benefit assessment collections [19:46] for road projects. [19:48] Rounding out our $63.5 million capital plan [19:51] for FY 27. [19:56] Okay, so if you want to dig deeper into our [20:00] proposed FY 27 budget, everything's on our website. [20:04] I encourage you to go there. [20:05] Here's the link and you can go there [20:07] and peruse every, every number, all the agencies, [20:11] all the departments, all the detail you need [20:13] and we'd be happy to answer any questions that your leisure. [20:16] You can let us know if you have questions about anything you [20:18] see or on the budget mailers that you've received. [20:21] We've also have a handout here that has a lot [20:24] of additional information, including [20:26] what I've presented here tonight. [20:27] Some additional pie charts and the five year capital plan. [20:30] So that's available here this evening. [20:32] So if you haven't picked one of those up, [20:33] please get one on your on your way out [20:35] and we'd be happy to answer questions on that as well. [20:40] So that concludes the very brief high level presentation [20:43] of the FY 27 proposed budget. [20:46] We can now take any public comment. [20:48] So commissioners, if you wanna come on back up to the podium [20:52] or excuse me to the front desk [20:54] and we will run through the comments. [20:56] So [21:01] You wanna read the [21:07] I gave, I gave the title I saw so, [21:10] So when I call your name, just come on up to the [21:13] standing microphone and please [21:14] state your name and where you live. [21:19] First name here is, I got one. Do not cross art. [21:24] The not cross art. Did I say [21:25] that right? Alright, thank you sir. [21:27] Yes, close. My name is Benoit Cosar [21:31] and I'm on Kent Island. [21:34] And I'd like to start this evening by looking at the [21:38] the revenue side of your budget. [21:39] So you presented to us, basically, I think you mentioned it, [21:43] the lion's share comes from property tax and income tax. [21:47] And when I look at 2026, [21:49] it's about $90 million revenue stream for each. [21:52] So indeed they are, you call 'em lion's share, [21:55] I call 'em elephants. [21:57] Those are the big revenue streams. [21:59] So I'll start with property tax. [22:02] In your cover letter you highlight, you underline [22:06] that you're decreasing property tax rate for 2027 [22:13] and you have showed us this chart over here with the, [22:16] the yellow bar right next [22:18] to Talbot County is queen on county. [22:23] What the chart doesn't show is [22:24] that you're comparing your 2027 proposed rate 80 cents [22:30] compared to the 2026 rates for the other counties. [22:34] And you're saying that that this will [22:39] put the county, our county, [22:41] and the lower lowest tax rate [22:44] of all 24 jurisdiction in Maryland. [22:47] But actually Talbot County is reducing their tax rate [22:52] and not from 83 to 80, which is what you're proposing, [22:56] which is a like a three and a half percent reduction. [23:00] So putting things in perspective, [23:02] when the median household price in Kent Island, I'm sorry, [23:07] in Queenan County, is about $500,000. [23:10] That represents a reduction of about $190 per household [23:14] for the median household, $190 per year. [23:18] What Talbot County did is a reduction from 80 cents [23:23] to 67 cents, which is a meaningful [23:28] reduction in median household property tax. [23:30] It calculates to about $700 a year, 700 versus the 190 [23:35] that you're proposing. [23:37] So that's what I call one elephant in the room. [23:39] And there's another one and it's on the income tax. [23:43] So $90 million from property tax, [23:45] that's what I just talked about. [23:46] Now there's another $90 million from income tax. [23:51] When I compare that to our Talbot County, [23:54] you're saying in your letter [23:59] That income tax rate [24:00] of 3.2% will remain the same for next year? [24:05] Well 3.2% versus Talbot County who's at [24:09] 2.4%. [24:12] I think that is a meaningful difference. [24:16] And our neighbors to the north in Cecil County, [24:19] I checked also there are 2.7%. [24:22] So at 3.2% we stand in Queenland County at the highest [24:27] of all 23 jurisdiction. [24:31] So it sounds like I have to finish. [24:33] So when voting for commissioners going forward, I want [24:37] to see a plan that reduces spending. [24:40] So we in Quinlan County can get off this list [24:44] of having the highest income tax rate of the 23 counties. [24:50] I mean, our income tax rate is just as high [24:52] as Baltimore City and I don't think [24:54] that's anything to brag about. [24:56] I don't like to give out a problem without [24:58] giving a solution. [25:00] So here's the solution I have for you commissioners, [25:03] go back to Mr. [25:04] Mon over here and tell him [25:07] to take another crack at this budget and cut spending. [25:13] So, and cut it to a point that a $700 a year savings [25:18] to the median household family can be obtained. [25:22] Talbot County is doing it. So can we. [25:25] That is what will get you reelected. Thank you. Thank you. [25:29] Thank you. [25:34] Next we have Matt Kler, department or Public Works. [25:37] Which one? [25:44] Good evening. Dr. [25:45] Matt Kler, superintendent at [25:46] Queen Anne County Public Schools. [25:47] I wanna start by just thanking the commissioners [25:49] for their continued support of our public schools [25:53] at a time when districts across Maryland are cutting [25:56] programs and eliminating positions. [25:58] We recognize just how fortunate we are in [26:01] to have commissioners supporting our public [26:03] schools in Queen Anne's County. [26:04] The proposed budget increase for our schools will allow us [26:07] to meet our contractual obligations to employees [26:09] and maintain our current programs and staffing levels. [26:13] After two very difficult years of cuts [26:15] and furloughs, that is a significant step [26:18] forward for our school system. [26:20] This also means that we are continuing [26:22] to meet our obligations under the [26:24] blueprint for Maryland's future. [26:25] For example, starting teacher salaries next year [26:27] will be $60,000. [26:29] We've increased the number [26:30] of full day pre-kindergarten seats [26:32] for our youngest learners. [26:34] We will continue to send hundreds of our students per year [26:37] to dual enrollment classes at Chesapeake College, [26:39] while also offering high quality CTE programs like our new [26:44] electrical program and our longstanding nursing program. [26:47] All of this is possible because of your generous support [26:50] and for that we are sincerely grateful. [26:53] My job as superintendent though, is [26:55] to also advocate for the school system. [26:57] I want Queen Anne County Public Schools to be more, [26:59] to be in a position to do more than just maintain. [27:02] We are currently the second highest performing school system [27:05] on the eastern shore, [27:07] and our goal is to become the highest performing in the [27:09] state with 24 7 access to technology [27:13] and cell phones at our fingertips. [27:15] We also recognize that students face challenges [27:17] and stressors in today's world [27:18] that haven't always been present, even when compared [27:21] to just a few years ago. [27:23] Our county is home to outstanding educators, [27:26] but supporting students requires more than [27:28] just classroom teachers. [27:29] In today's environment, people make the greatest impact [27:33] in the lives of our students. [27:34] Any additional funding provided [27:36] by the commissioners would go directly towards supporting [27:39] children in our schools by restoring some of the support [27:42] that were in place in previous school years. [27:44] This would include math and reading specialists [27:46] and staff trained to support the behavioral [27:49] and mental health needs of our students. [27:51] Please know this, we are grateful for where we are. [27:54] We will not make excuses, we won't stand still. [27:57] We will continue pressing forward [27:59] and giving the students of Queen Annes County the very best [28:01] education possible. [28:03] Again, I wanna thank you for your partnership [28:05] and your support of the children [28:06] and families of Queen Annes County. [28:08] I also wanna say I plan to be able to be at all of these, [28:11] but I can't tomorrow night. [28:12] I, I'm gonna be cheering on the Ken Island High School boys [28:16] lacrosse team at Stevenson University as they try [28:19] to win back Toback State Championships for the third time [28:22] and their fourth state [28:23] championship outta the past five years. [28:25] Nice go box and thank you for all your support. Thank you. [28:28] Thank you. [28:32] Okay, next we have Janet Salazar. [28:41] Good evening commissioners. [28:42] I'm Janet Salazar, the Director for the Public Libraries. [28:45] And I am also here to thank you for our funding this year. [28:48] Thank you for the continued support of the library [28:50] for the investment that you make in our staff [28:52] and our services every year. [28:54] We truly appreciate the funding included in this year's [28:57] budget, especially the additional outreach position [29:00] that is much needed. [29:02] That position will allow us [29:03] to strengthen our connections throughout the county [29:05] and expand access to library services for residents [29:08] who may not otherwise be able to get to our branches. [29:11] We are grateful that you are build [29:13] that when you are building the county budget. [29:15] You always remember our staff [29:18] and the value that they bring to the library. [29:21] So thank you very much for that. [29:24] I also wanna thank you for including the North [29:25] County branch funding. [29:29] This project represents a really important step forward [29:32] for the expanding of library access [29:34] and services to residents in [29:35] the northern part of our county. [29:37] We're currently developing a community survey [29:39] to better understand what services and resources [29:42] and programs the residents would most [29:44] value in their new space. [29:45] And we want to ensure that this branch reflects the unique [29:48] needs of that community [29:50] and becomes a welcoming, flexible resource for all ages. [29:54] And finally, if additional funding should come available, [29:58] we would ask you to consider the support [30:00] of an additional full-time makerspace [30:02] position at this branch. [30:04] As you saw in a recent library update, [30:07] our makerspace usage has grown tremendously [30:09] with unique users and unique sessions increasing [30:12] by 90% and less than one year. [30:14] This growth demonstrates both the demand [30:17] for in the impact of these services. [30:20] The Makerspace provides opportunities for creativity, [30:23] workforce development, technology, education, [30:26] and hands-on learning for residents of all ages. [30:29] An additional staff member would allow us [30:31] to better support patrons, expand programming opportunities, [30:34] and maintain equipment [30:36] and continue growing this valuable community resource [30:40] in a sustainable way. [30:41] So I thank you for our budget and thank you for listening. [30:47] Rebecca Donovan. [30:53] Good Evening. Rebecca Donovan from Chester. [30:56] I may look a little familiar to most of you. [30:57] I know we just came from the ribbon cutting [31:00] earlier this evening and I do wanna take a moment [31:02] to thank you guys for including that budget so [31:04] that we could get that renovation of Millbury Park [31:06] and allowing us to be a part of it. [31:08] That is not why I am here tonight. [31:10] However, tonight I am here to ask you all [31:12] to prioritize funding [31:14] for mental health support within our board of education. [31:17] Specifically programs focused on mental health awareness, [31:20] suicide prevention, peer support, crisis identification, [31:23] and accessible counseling resources [31:25] for students in our county. [31:28] Tonight, I'm speaking not just as a fellow grieving parent, [31:30] but also as a co-leader [31:31] of a bereaving bereaved parent support group here on the [31:35] island through grief share ministry at the Ken Island [31:37] Methodist Church is through that group that I've come [31:40] to understand how serious the youth mental health [31:42] crisis is in our county. [31:44] Recently, parents joined our group [31:45] after losing their son to suicide. [31:47] Through conversations in our share group, I learned [31:50] that four children in our county have died [31:51] by suicide this year, this school year four. [31:57] They are not statistics, they're children, classmates, [32:00] friends, sons, daughters futures. [32:05] And for every child that we do lose, [32:06] there are countless more who are silently struggling. [32:09] We cannot wait until more families are sitting in our grief [32:11] support group to recognize that intervention is needed. [32:14] Now, our schools that are in are in a unique position [32:18] to help identify warning signs [32:20] and create environments [32:21] where students feel safe asking for help. [32:23] But educators cannot do it alone without proper funding, [32:26] staffing and resources. [32:29] We need increased investment in school counselors, [32:31] mental health professionals, peer mentoring, [32:34] peer support groups, suicide awareness training [32:37] and programs that teach students how [32:38] to recognize when a friend might be struggling. [32:41] Mental health support is not an extra, it is not optional. [32:45] It's prevention, intervention and lifesaving. [32:49] I understand that budgets are difficult [32:51] and that there are a lot of things competing [32:53] for that, for that funding. [32:54] But I'm asking you tonight to view this [32:56] as an urgent investment and the lives [32:58] of the children in our county [33:00] because no parent should ever have [33:01] to plan a funeral for their child. [33:03] And no family should have [33:05] to find their way into a bereaved parent support group [33:07] because help did not come soon enough. [33:09] If there's anything we can do together [33:10] to prevent even one more family from experiencing this kind [33:13] of loss, then it's worth the investment. [33:15] And I hope that you believe that as well. [33:18] Thank you for your time, for your [33:19] leadership and your consideration. [33:21] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [33:26] Bridget Heen. Say that right, Bridget? Yes. [33:35] Hello, I'm Bridget. I'm from Stevensville. [33:39] When I got the budget, the first thing [33:41] that jumped off the page to me was the very first item [33:45] under county commissioners, 870,000. [33:48] I've been communicating with Phil. [33:51] I think you've also [33:53] provided some of the budget information to drill down [33:56] to understand what that number meant. [34:00] And what I learned was a little more distressing than the [34:03] $870,000. [34:06] We have five commissioners, [34:09] their salaries mandated at $25,000 a year. [34:14] There's $125,000 based on a [34:19] $250,000. [34:21] So the other's expenses. [34:23] My question is, what are those expenses? [34:25] Because as this gentleman had said, we have [34:27] to look at expenses for those who want additional funding [34:32] for very important programs, the only way we can do it is [34:36] to reduce our expenses. [34:38] The second item was for the support staff. [34:42] And it came to me saying that Stephanie, Sherry, [34:44] and Brie make a total [34:47] of $415,000 a year. [34:53] They are the executive assistant, [34:55] the administrative assistant, [34:57] and the office manager [34:59] that averages $138,000 a year. [35:02] I'd like that job if they were to get the same [35:07] benefits, which again, I don't understand what they are [35:10] because, and forgive me if I offend anyone, I assume all [35:15] of you are on Medicare. [35:17] So it's not medical benefits, is it? [35:21] So it's $26,000 in benefits [35:25] for our commissioners. [35:28] I'm looking to try [35:31] and find a way to reduce our expenses so [35:34] that we can direct the money that we do collect [35:38] to the important things. [35:40] And that's going to take some cutting of budgets, [35:45] not increasing of budgets, like the 3% [35:49] increase on that first line item. [35:58] Next we have Carl, you Savage. [36:02] Sitz. Sitz. Thank you. Yeah. [36:05] My name's Carl Sitz. I live in Grayville, Maryland. [36:09] And I want to take this opportunity to thank you the board [36:13] for allowing me to address some social issues that are [36:18] ever so present in Queen Anne County. [36:22] And I'm here to advocate for more funds for the school board [36:27] to try and get in front of these social issues. [36:32] I'm s my son was Kevin [36:37] who died on the 22nd of December. [36:41] My wife and I will never be the same from this. [36:45] And since in that in the last five months there's been, [36:48] there's been three other children that are gone. [36:51] And I'd venture to say [36:52] that those parents are never gonna be the same either. [36:56] I don't, I don't wanna make this about my family, [36:58] but I wanna make this about this community. [37:01] There's a problem here. And it's not gonna go away. [37:06] You know, you know, we may be close in age and, [37:09] and we know how we were raised [37:12] and these issues weren't, weren't as as [37:16] prevalent as they are now. [37:18] And, and we need to do something about this. [37:21] This is serious business. [37:25] I, I can't, there, there's, I I can't even describe to you [37:29] what it's like to be a dad one day [37:34] and then the next day you're not. [37:38] It's indescribable. [37:41] So I, I feel the need to be proactive. [37:46] So I sat in on a few school board meetings. I was welcomed. [37:52] I was heard [37:57] the school doesn't have what they need. [38:05] They don't have what they need [38:06] to get in front of this problem. [38:09] This, this is a social crisis amongst [38:14] the future of this, of, of our county, [38:18] our state, our country. [38:24] You know, I asked the school board [38:26] what programs are are being implemented [38:28] to get in front of this problem. [38:30] When the grief counselors show up, you're, [38:32] we're still behind the problem. [38:35] We're we're not in front of it. [38:38] And it's gonna take a lot of work and a lot of effort. [38:40] And that takes money. [38:46] You know, are the students being addressed? [38:48] I asked are are they talking about this [38:51] or is it just being, you know, [38:55] that's a shame we miss them. [38:58] That's not gonna help this. [39:01] They need to understand what mental health, [39:05] positive mental health is all about [39:10] and how to identify it with their friends. [39:15] I'm sorry, I'm gonna run over, but this, this, keep going, [39:17] Keep going. [39:19] You know, so, you know, [39:21] the other big issue is this bullying issue. [39:25] You know, are, are we, are we monitoring [39:27] how kids are treating kids? [39:31] You know, I'm not, I'm not gonna, [39:32] I'm not gonna blame this whole thing on, you know, [39:34] my son's death over that. [39:36] But that was part of it. He just didn't feel [39:40] like he could fit in. [39:44] And, and that's gotta stop. You know? [39:48] And other kids wanna speak up. [39:51] They, they do, they wanna speak up, [39:55] but they're afraid of the judgment [39:57] and the alienation if they do and where that puts them. [40:02] And so everybody turns and walks. Not everybody. [40:11] I don't know. I, I mean I wrote all this down and, [40:14] and I, I'm not gonna read this to you. [40:17] I'm gonna speak from the heart as I've been doing. [40:19] But you know, the kids need to have some tools. [40:24] They need to have some education, they need [40:25] to have some understanding. [40:29] And the parents need it too. [40:32] You know, how can, how can the kids come home [40:35] and talk to their parents? [40:37] My son didn't talk to us about this. [40:39] I, I, I asked him every how everything okay? [40:42] And everything's fine, dad, everything's fine. [40:54] All these were all these suggestions that I'm making. [40:58] I mean, I don't have any skin in the game anymore, okay? [41:00] It's about our only child, but I care about my friends [41:05] and I care about my neighbors [41:07] and I care about their children and I care about the future. [41:15] It's gonna require trained professionals. [41:17] Teachers can't do this. It's not their job. [41:20] Their job is to stick to the curriculum [41:23] and prepare the students for challenges in the workplace. [41:30] Social issues, social settings. [41:34] That's what it's all about. [41:37] You know, guidance counselors need to do this [41:39] and train professionals. [41:44] You know, it's my understanding [41:46] that average class is like 25 plus students. [41:49] How does a teacher deal with 25 15 year olds? [41:55] They don't. The ones that wanna learn are the ones [41:59] and the ones that don't, they play a part, [42:05] but you have to engage 'em. [42:09] So [42:11] I, I, I don't know. [42:14] The general consensus is not enough guidance counselors [42:19] to deal with these social issues and, [42:23] and their job is to direct children in for their future. [42:27] But now they have a new job [42:28] because there's these new issues that they're dealing with [42:33] and they really don't know how. [42:34] So what are we gonna do? [42:37] We need to bring outside help in to train this, [42:41] these guidance counselors, [42:42] specialties, whatever you want to call it. [42:54] I don't know. I'm, I'm here to, I'm here [42:55] to support my school board. [42:58] They need a little bit more money to deal with this. [43:02] This is, this is, this isn't been going on [43:05] consistently for years. [43:06] This is like you, you can't tell me that. [43:10] I mean, name another place that [43:12] four children are gone in five months. [43:18] This isn't normal. They need more help. [43:22] I give up an over class for more guidance counselors. [43:26] So that's all I have. [43:28] And I appreciate you letting me speak and going over [43:32] and I love this county. [43:36] I love my community. I love my [43:37] neighbors and my neighbor's children. [43:40] These kids are the commodity of the future. [43:44] That's what this is about. [43:45] So, you know, and, [43:48] and they, if we can start this, [43:49] they can carry it into the future and, [43:53] and just maybe there'll be a little bit more understanding. [43:58] Thank you. Thank [43:59] You. [44:05] Next we have Jesse Knight. [44:16] My name's Jesse. I'm from Ken Island Little League. [44:19] I just came here today to say thank you guys so much [44:23] for the Bats Neck project. [44:25] I brought a couple gentlemen with me. [44:28] I know the baseball and softball community has been waiting [44:31] for a long time for lights down in this area. [44:34] We need it. Some real life issues we have is, [44:38] I know your chart showed that, you know, the, [44:41] the enrollments for you know, [44:43] Kibbler school district is going down. [44:44] But I get all of them. I get the homeschool kids, [44:46] I get the private school kids and I am at the max. [44:50] So this year I had no open fields. [44:52] So those full fields were full all the time. [44:55] So I kind of wanna plant the seed. [44:57] You guys are gonna get to know me more. [44:59] I'm gonna get on your nerves. [45:00] Like I've been getting on Phil's nerves quite a bit. [45:04] Commute five hours a day. [45:06] So I watch a lot of post meetings, new meetings. [45:10] Just to comment on one of your comments a while back, [45:13] Patrick, when you made the extension cord [45:15] and light comment about the lights, some of us did do that. [45:20] I coached football in Grasonville [45:22] and some of those kids couldn't get to [45:24] the piranhas organization. [45:26] So another gentleman made Grayville community [45:29] and I used to go pick quite a few kids up [45:31] and bring them to practice. [45:32] And I had to bring Milwaukee lights [45:34] 'cause we didn't have lights for those kids [45:36] to participate in a youth sport. [45:39] So like to see the property [45:41] by Mallard run get developed some more baseball fields down [45:44] in this area, we need 'em. [45:46] I know budgets are tough, you know, nobody wants [45:50] to spend money, but you know, as many data centers [45:54] and big tech and everything else going, [45:56] the more kids we can keep active at parks and [45:58] and playing sports and is a good thing. [46:01] And attending some meetings with Parks and Rec. [46:05] There were quite a few kids coming down [46:07] to our county from New York, Pennsylvania [46:10] and surrounding areas to come enjoy, [46:12] you know, where we live. [46:13] And I wanna keep it that way. [46:14] So gentlemen, again, thank you very much. Thank you. [46:17] Thank you. [46:22] So Barbara Dawson. [46:28] Hi, I'm Barb Dawson. [46:30] I'm on the Parks and Rec advisory board. [46:33] I just wanted to speak on, I guess behalf of the board [46:36] or of our committee that thank you so much for support Parks [46:40] and rec and everything that they do today at Berry Park, [46:43] at the dedication ceremony. [46:46] I know it was amazing to see what parks [46:49] and Rec here can accomplish [46:51] and I just wanted to thank you for supporting them [46:53] and their budget and their needs and help them carry on. [46:58] Thank you, thank you, thank you. [47:03] And Mary Sloan. [47:10] My name's Mary Sloan in Stevensville, Maryland. [47:14] I'm also the co-founder of the Jacob Sloan Foundation. [47:19] But tonight I'm here speaking as the facilitator, [47:22] the lead facilitator [47:23] of the Parents Bereaved group here on Ken Island. [47:27] It's a group that nobody, no parents [47:28] should ever have to join. [47:31] And I'm very proud of you two for speaking. [47:38] And I'm asking that the board of Education, [47:42] that there be made more funding [47:44] for the mental health programs in services in Queen S County [47:48] schools as an urgent priority. [47:52] This year alone, the community's experienced the [47:54] heartbreaking loss of fourteens to suicide. [47:58] But behind every loss is a family forever change. [48:01] Classmates struggling to understand [48:03] and a community asking if something [48:07] more could have been done. [48:09] Through our bereaved parents group, [48:11] I have seen firsthand the growing number [48:13] of families affected [48:15] by mental health struggles among our youth. [48:18] Far too many parents have needed our support [48:21] after unimaginable loss. [48:24] The need for stronger mental health resources in [48:26] our schools is critical. [48:28] Our students need greater access to counselors, [48:32] prevention programs, peer support, crisis intervention [48:35] and education that addresses the depression, anxiety, [48:39] bullying, trauma and suicide prevention. [48:44] Often schools can be the first place [48:45] where warning signs are seen. [48:48] We must ensure that they have all the tools necessary [48:52] and all the resources necessary to respond to a crisis [48:56] before it becomes another tragedy. [48:59] Investing in mental health support is not optional. [49:03] It's an es. It's is essential to protecting the wellbeing [49:08] and lives of our childrens [49:09] and families in our county alone. [49:15] Not only is it, see now I'm going off script, but that's [49:20] because this is such a heartfelt journey. [49:22] Even though my story with the loss of our son is different, [49:25] it's not from suicide. [49:27] I remember parents calling me saying, [49:30] my child's struggling in school. [49:33] Who can I get to help them? [49:35] I was in the depths of my darkest days, [49:38] yet I felt an obligation to try to find those parents [49:41] or those students' help. [49:44] We need more resources in this county to address [49:48] mental health issues for families, [49:50] for children, and for the schools. [49:53] It has to be a priority. [49:56] And our foundation, you know, we have helped [50:00] with other mental health initiatives in the county [50:03] and we continue to stand by to help where we can help too. [50:07] But I felt as a grief support counselor in our [50:10] county that it was crucial. [50:12] Keep going. That I was able to come up here not only as [50:18] a parent, I mean not only as a, you know, [50:22] running our foundation, but as a parent of child loss. [50:27] And it's something that we want no other [50:30] parents to go through. [50:31] It's something that unless you've walked that walk, [50:34] you don't understand the need that we have, [50:38] especially in this county, for more support [50:40] for these families, these children, these communities. [50:45] Thank you for your time and I appreciate all [50:47] that you all do currently. [50:49] Thank you. Thank you. Thank [50:50] You. [50:55] Okay folks, that's all we had signed up. [50:57] Is there anybody else that would like to [51:00] make any public comments this evening? [51:03] Yes ma'am. [51:07] Hi, My name is re I'm a resident of Queen and County. [51:11] I live in Grayville. I work in Annapolis. I'm a doctor. [51:16] I heard the parents [51:18] and I think, yes, we need [51:19] to support our mental health services in the school. [51:23] I'm just gonna make a small short story. [51:26] When I first initially bought my house in the Queen [51:29] and county, I looked at our Grayville Elementary school, [51:32] compared it with other counties, elementary school, [51:34] how they're performing. [51:36] Coming from the Indian background, [51:38] I wanted the best school for my kid. [51:41] And I know our schools are doing very good, [51:43] but we are still, we need a lot [51:45] of support from the school system. [51:47] I want our board to be supported for education programs so [51:51] that look at Harvard County, why they are doing best, [51:54] why other counties are doing much more better. [51:56] Of course mental health also plays a role into this. [51:59] So definitely lot of support into the public school system. [52:03] That's what I would request from all of you. [52:06] I didn't want it to put my kid into the private school. [52:09] I have two kids, although I, yes, I can afford [52:12] with my husband, but I think public schools should be given [52:16] a fair chance to accelerate in the education. [52:19] And if parents like me [52:20] and other educated parents would not put our kids into [52:23] public school, will not give them fair chance. [52:26] And kids need to learn from the system. [52:28] And another thing is the bullying. [52:30] I have been hearing a lot of bullying going [52:32] around the school, so I would appreciate if you guys can [52:34] come up with some kind of program and prevention for that. [52:38] And lastly, is there any chance we can get a playground at [52:43] Long Point Park, please? [52:45] I'm a mother. I drive my kids [52:47] around looking for playgrounds. [52:48] Thank you for Berry Park. [52:50] But I don't wanna add to the island traffic [52:52] or congestion in the summer months. [52:54] If you can give us our playground back at the Long Point [52:57] Park, that'll be great. [53:00] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [53:07] Okay. Anybody else wish to [53:09] make some public comments this evening? [53:13] No, go on once, twice. [53:14] Alright, I'll turn it back over to the commissioners [53:18] for any closing remarks. Commissioners. [53:20] Chris, you want to? Let's, [53:23] Patrick, do you wanna go first? [53:24] First because I think there's a hot topic [53:26] that you should be, you've been [53:27] working really hard on as well. [53:29] So let's talk about it. [53:31] No, because I, I think I, sir, thank you [53:35] For sharing your, Your story. [53:36] And I just, commissioner McLaughlin has been working on [53:39] trying to get more funding for youth crisis, [53:43] a youth crisis center since before your son took his life. [53:48] I remember we were at the Maryland Association [53:51] of Counties just a few weeks [53:53] Before your father, I mean, sorry, [53:56] before your son took his life. [53:58] And Commissioner McLaughlin going up to Governor Moore [54:01] and explaining the money that we needed from the state [54:03] because he secured a $5 million [54:05] grant from the fellow government. [54:06] But we need the matching money from the state. [54:09] And he has been relentless in pursuing the state. [54:14] And they're not doing it right. [54:15] They're not giving us our funding. [54:18] And if you remember the chart up here that you saw [54:20] for school funding, Queens County is way above [54:24] where we're supposed to be. [54:25] And the state is way below. [54:27] And that's not an excuse that Queens County can't do more. [54:29] 'cause we will always do more. And if you ask Dr. [54:32] Kibbler, he'll tell you, we, we've called him directly [54:34] and said whatever you need for, for mental health, we're, [54:37] we are your partner in this [54:40] and working with our Department of Health for that. [54:44] It's not fast enough. It's not enough. And I get that. [54:47] So I'm not making excuses for anything. [54:49] You're a hundred percent correct. [54:51] But I do want Patrick to share what he's been working on [54:54] because this is something [54:55] that has been at the forefront for him. [54:58] And we need help from the citizens to get the state, [55:01] because we are of rural county. [55:03] I mean, the budget might look like a lot, you know, [55:06] it does not go that far as you've seen [55:08] where everything goes, [55:09] particularly when it comes to those things. So Patrick, [55:11] Why don't you talk a little about what you, [55:16] I didn't really know Christopher. [55:17] And we were sitting at Mako and it was my first Mako [55:22] and long story short, we were just lollygagging [55:25] and his daughter [55:30] and my daughter, Bethany knew a [55:34] girl who took her life. [55:37] And that kind of cemented our friendship and our bond. [55:42] And we've been working, he's very nice to say it, [55:45] but it's been a team effort. [55:47] Jim, Jack, Phil, and Christopher and myself. [55:52] I, I could talk for two hours about this. [55:56] I was just on a zoom [56:00] with M-D-H-N-B-H-A [56:03] and it's the same crap every time. [56:07] We don't have the money. So [56:12] as he was saying, [56:13] we got a $5 million grant from Congressman Harris. [56:17] All we need, all we need is a 25% matching [56:20] grant from the state. [56:23] It doesn't have to be from BHA or, or MDH. [56:26] We tried to, I talked to the Speaker of the House, [56:30] Pena Melnick before she was a speaker. [56:34] And they just don't commit. They don't commit. [56:36] They wouldn't let us submit a [56:38] but they wouldn't let us submit it as a line item. [56:41] They wouldn't let, I'm talking about the legislature. [56:43] They wouldn't let us submit it [56:44] as a miscellaneous to the budget. [56:48] So here we are and this $5 million grant expires in [56:53] about October or November. [56:55] If we can't get the, the matching fund now [56:57] what, what is it for? [56:59] It's a, it's for capital improvements. We got a four. [57:02] The, the guys in front of you got a $4 million grant. [57:06] You, you know, we don't talk about this stuff [57:08] because we want it to get to the point where it, [57:11] the doors are gonna open so we don't talk about it. [57:14] 'cause you know, we're, we're not politicians. [57:19] We're, we're, we're servant leaders for you. [57:22] So we got this $4 million grant for the Witt Center, [57:26] which is a, a, a really great program in Kent County. [57:29] We convinced the Kent County commissioners to go along [57:31] with us and three other counties. [57:33] We were gonna turn this vacant building into a PHP [57:37] partial hospitalization program. [57:41] And we get this $5 million from the congressmen [57:44] and we can't get the state to help us. [57:47] And that's where we are. Then even if they did, [57:51] we still have to ask for 1.5 million for staffing per year. [57:55] So what this would do, what would this do? [57:58] So when the, the sheriff shows up and the, [58:00] and our great EMS show up at a place, someone's house [58:04] that's having a a, a mental health issue. [58:07] They do an evaluation and then they call the emergency room. [58:11] And the emergency room doctor says bring [58:14] them in for an evaluation. [58:15] Our goal is to take them directly to the, [58:19] either the Witt Center [58:20] or the PHP where they can get evaluated immediately [58:24] and get mental health care expeditiously. [58:28] Not sitting in an emergency room for days and days [58:33] and days waiting for a bed to open up in Western Maryland so [58:37] that their child can get inpatient care. [58:40] So that is what these guys and we're fighting for and, and, [58:44] and Todd Mon and, and our EMS people. [58:48] So I know it doesn't seem like we're doing a lot [58:54] Carl and, and and Rebecca, [58:56] but we are getting back to the, the call with MDH [59:01] We, it was about the 9, 8, 8 issues we're having. [59:04] And I'm not gonna say anything 'cause we're on television, [59:06] but I'll certainly talk to you afterwards if you'd [59:09] like to talk about it. [59:11] So I will also say [59:15] that we need a plan. [59:19] So I I we need a plan from the Board of Education [59:24] and, and the edu the Department of Education come [59:29] to us if, [59:31] and say, here, this is what we think [59:33] we can do to help our kids. [59:36] I know that Talbot County has a really exceptional program [59:40] called the yellow ribbon or Yellow slip. [59:43] And here's how it works. [59:45] It starts in third grade and it goes all the way through. [59:50] So each child gets a, a yellow card [59:53] and if they're struggling with anything [59:56] or they know somebody who's struggling [59:59] and they don't have the words, they literally walk up [1:00:02] to an adult in the school. [1:00:04] And all the schools are, to your point, are trained on [1:00:08] how to help this child. [1:00:09] So the child doesn't feel bullied, [1:00:11] the child doesn't feel like they're gonna get in trouble, [1:00:15] the child, et cetera, et cetera. [1:00:17] They give the card to the teacher. [1:00:19] The teacher immediately takes the child to [1:00:23] the principal's office in a, in a safe space, [1:00:26] I guess you could call it where they call the parents in. [1:00:32] That's a really good program. [1:00:34] We do this in, I believe I could be mistaken, [1:00:38] we do this in sixth and eighth grade in Queen Annes County. [1:00:42] We're here. These five guys are sitting in front of you [1:00:46] asking to tell us what we need to do. [1:00:52] I don't have the answers. I've been working on this [1:00:54] with these guys for three, four years. [1:00:57] I started working on this before I got elected. [1:01:00] I, I don't have the answers. [1:01:02] I, I don't know, you know, one of the gentlemen [1:01:06] or that, Liam, [1:01:08] it happened at one o'clock in the morning on his phone. [1:01:12] So it, it, it, it happened. It's not the school's fault. [1:01:17] It is not the school's fault, [1:01:20] but it is our responsibility, the schools, the board of ed, [1:01:24] and the commissioners to get proper training. [1:01:28] We need a plan. And I don't know what that plan is, [1:01:32] but our doors are open and we'll listen [1:01:35] and you tell us what you need. [1:01:39] I have two questions to what you said. [1:01:42] One is how we can help you in, [1:01:45] can you step up to the microphone? So [1:01:49] You said you are having difficulty getting the [1:01:51] funding Right. [1:01:52] How we can help as parents [1:01:55] Right. [1:01:56] To the governor. Okay. [1:01:57] To to Christopher's point, we're, we're in the, [1:02:01] we're in a thousand people in a banquet. [1:02:03] He's up on the plateau. [1:02:04] I literally walked up onto the plateau in front of him [1:02:08] to talk to him to say, I got a $5 million grant [1:02:12] and from Congressman Harrison and can you help me? [1:02:17] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Four times I've talked [1:02:19] to him face to face. [1:02:21] He puts me in touch with his, you know, [1:02:25] His Aide. [1:02:26] His aide, and it just falls by the wayside. [1:02:29] I, I don't see Todd, but Todd emailed this guy. [1:02:33] Todd emailed the governor's office multiple times, [1:02:37] following up for McLaughlin talking to, and nothing. [1:02:41] It's just really bizarre. They need [1:02:42] To hear From the people. [1:02:43] They, yeah. So, so thank you Chris. And [1:02:46] No matter what level of life [1:02:47] Officer you are, I mean, for us too, right? [1:02:48] Hearing from people matters a lot [1:02:50] more than hearing from each other. [1:02:52] But it does take the people reaching out. [1:02:55] And I will vouch Patrick's story [1:02:57] because I think he made the state police uncomfortable when [1:02:59] he got so close to the governor about that. [1:03:03] The, but it is reaching out and it's all the people and, [1:03:06] and we're happy to meet with you after and, [1:03:07] and coordinate with that because that makes a difference. [1:03:11] You know, when the governor's office is hearing from [1:03:12] parents, particularly parents who have lost a child, [1:03:16] it's harder for them to ignore [1:03:17] that correspondence they hear from us. [1:03:19] And unfortunately, you know, [1:03:21] we're just a small rural county. [1:03:22] It's easy not to pay attention to us if you're in Annapolis. [1:03:25] But it's much harder for them to ignore the parents. [1:03:26] And that's the voices that matter. [1:03:28] Yeah. We can definitely reach out. [1:03:30] And the second question is, you set an example [1:03:33] for Talbot County where they have this yellow [1:03:35] ribbon kind of system. [1:03:37] In that example, you said kids are taken [1:03:39] to the principal office or [1:03:40] certainly their parents are called in. [1:03:42] Where is the mental health specialist? [1:03:43] Do they have the mental health specialist there? Yes. And, [1:03:45] And, and so do we And and we have and [1:03:47] and Megan Pinder is one of our mental health specialists. [1:03:53] And Ms. Hurlock, these are wonderful people. [1:03:57] We have only two in whole county. Well, [1:03:59] I, I can't speak to that. [1:04:02] No, I was just gonna say that. [1:04:03] I appreciate your points, but we have resources [1:04:06] in, in all of their schools. [1:04:07] But this specific program you're talking about is not [1:04:10] currently going on from third grade to 12th grade. [1:04:13] We are learning that. Best practice is saying maybe we bring [1:04:16] that next year, but we have similar ways when a student's in [1:04:20] mental health crisis in our schools that we bring resources [1:04:24] around around the child, whether [1:04:27] just the general education classroom teacher, [1:04:29] a guidance counselor, a social worker, assistant principal, [1:04:33] principal, sending resources from the central office down [1:04:37] mobile crisis that is in our community, a collection [1:04:41] of our mental health providers. [1:04:42] We have a lot of resources in this county to help. [1:04:46] And we're just gonna keep refining with the, [1:04:48] the health department, those mental health professionals, [1:04:51] our school system staff, our commission staff, to [1:04:54] what we can do even more moving forward. [1:04:57] And one of those suggestions is like, [1:04:59] we've been focusing middle school and, [1:05:01] and the health class of high school. [1:05:03] Maybe we do need to do better at like third grade on having [1:05:08] a specific program around this starting next year. [1:05:11] And we're gonna do that. I mean, we were able to stand up a, [1:05:14] a program just at, in the last, last three months [1:05:17] of the year for sixth grade through 12th grade. [1:05:20] We, we stopped everything to make sure [1:05:21] that we could get in front of every child like that. [1:05:25] Yeah. In response to what's going on? [1:05:27] And then we're gonna continue that moving forward, [1:05:29] bringing it to the elementary level and, [1:05:31] and all grades moving out. [1:05:33] And we, as parents, we, [1:05:35] the most important thing is we make sure [1:05:37] that our voices are heard. [1:05:38] We can definitely support you guys [1:05:40] and write the emails. Yeah, [1:05:42] Thank you. [1:05:43] That would, that would be, thank you. [1:05:45] Vitally important if everybody here could write, not just [1:05:49] as an individual, but as an organization, you know, [1:05:53] Noah's organization or whatever the organization [1:05:57] you're affiliated with. [1:05:58] And I don't know how we can get you these email [1:06:03] 'cause it would be the governor, the director of MDH, [1:06:07] director of BHA, et cetera, et cetera. I, I can [1:06:10] Tell I'll reach out to Mary. [1:06:11] Well, but I mean for everybody. [1:06:13] Do did, when you signed in, [1:06:15] did everybody give their email? Yeah. No, [1:06:18] But I'll be happy to, to add mine. [1:06:20] Yeah. I mean, does it, I mean, does it, is it as simple [1:06:25] and, and I'm not trying to, to make this, simplify this, [1:06:28] that it's that easy 'cause I have no idea what you guys do. [1:06:32] I'm learning what you're doing, what you do. [1:06:34] And, and I've come to have a new appreciation [1:06:37] for the school board and, and now my county commissioners. [1:06:42] But is, is it as simple as signatures? [1:06:45] Hey, we're trying, our, our commissioner has this grant [1:06:50] and we're gonna lose it [1:06:52] and we have a problem here in our county [1:06:56] and we just need you to pay attention to this and, [1:06:59] and get us over the finish line with it. Is it that simple? [1:07:02] It's more than just, it's not for you in particular. [1:07:05] I mean, signatures. That's, that's what I mean. [1:07:07] It's your story, right. [1:07:10] They need to hear the story [1:07:12] because that's what's compelling for them. [1:07:14] That's what's harder for them. [1:07:16] If you get just a petition that has a whole bunch [1:07:18] of signatures and we get all the times, you know, [1:07:21] a form letter and you know, people sign it [1:07:23] or it says it's some sort of form email [1:07:26] and send it right from name it still says insert name here [1:07:28] and email it to us and like that sure about very persuasive, [1:07:31] Right? Right. [1:07:33] But when you hear the actual stories of [1:07:35] what somebody's been through [1:07:36] and how it's affected them, it's really hard to be a human. [1:07:39] Ignore that. Right. [1:07:40] That's why I came to, So we are [1:07:42] still somewhat human up here. [1:07:43] So, and, and the same I think in Annapolis. [1:07:46] So those stories are, are what matters. [1:07:49] So we can coordinate with you. [1:07:50] So I think you could be a, [1:07:51] a very important voice for what we're trying to [1:07:53] Do. [1:07:54] Whatever I can't guarantee is [1:07:56] that's gonna push up the edge, but it's gonna help. [1:07:58] So if, so, if I could make a suggestion, [1:08:00] 'cause I spend a lot of time in Annapolis. [1:08:03] The governor's not where you want to go. [1:08:05] The, the people that hold the purse strings in Annapolis is [1:08:07] the legislature and it's not gonna do any good. [1:08:10] I I would, we have three delegates and a senator here. [1:08:13] They're in the minority party in Annapolis. [1:08:16] Where those the, for we [1:08:20] delegate errands, delegate gr [1:08:21] and Delegate Jacobs and Senator Hershey. [1:08:24] But I want, my point is you need to get it to the people [1:08:28] who do hold the purse strings, which is the majority party. [1:08:30] And I tell people this all the time. [1:08:31] If you want something done in Annapolis, it's great to talk [1:08:35] to your local delegates and senators, but you gotta go [1:08:37] after the people who actually have the [1:08:39] vote to make a difference. [1:08:40] So I recommend you send it to all of the [1:08:44] committee member leaders, [1:08:45] which we, I can get you all of those. [1:08:47] And I will have Beth, who is our public information, [1:08:50] I will have it share out to a group [1:08:52] and then we share it, whether it's through Facebook, [1:08:54] however you wanna do it, and share the story [1:08:57] right to all those people. [1:08:59] Because to Chris's point, they've got hearts. [1:09:02] And that's what they've gotta hear is, you know, [1:09:04] we've done what we can do. [1:09:05] We've, we've got almost to the finish line, [1:09:08] but we gotta get across the finish line. [1:09:09] And that's gonna take help from there in terms of funding. [1:09:12] And like I said, you know, our, our, our delegates here [1:09:15] and our senators, they're, [1:09:17] they're the greatest group in in the world in Annapolis. [1:09:19] They, they stop a lot of bad things from happening down [1:09:21] there, quite frankly for the rural counties. [1:09:23] But again, you've gotta make your point to the people [1:09:25] who can make those deci make those decisions [1:09:30] and get us across that finish line. [1:09:31] And, and I I, I'm kinda like Patrick, I hear about this, [1:09:34] it's the most disheartening thing in the world when you got [1:09:37] three, you know, two kids and three young grandkids [1:09:39] and you look around at what the world's becoming. [1:09:41] It's very sad. And, and to see the heartbreak [1:09:44] and everything that goes into it. [1:09:45] And you know, we, we want to do something. [1:09:49] And I'm gonna say it right now. [1:09:51] I'm, I'm asking everybody in this room, everybody [1:09:53] that's watching at home, get a group together. [1:09:56] Let's all talk about it. [1:09:57] Let's make a plan together [1:09:59] because we're gonna be much stronger. [1:10:01] I've learned this about being a rural county. [1:10:02] You are much stronger with numbers than you are by yourself. [1:10:05] When we go to Annapolis, we go with Kent, Talbot, Caroline, [1:10:09] as many as we can get on the shore to go to Annapolis. [1:10:11] And typically we sometimes we have success. [1:10:14] So there's strength in numbers, [1:10:15] there's strength in the stories. [1:10:16] And, and that would be my suggestion to get [1:10:18] to Annapolis and get that home. [1:10:20] Carl, I would just, and Rebecca, [1:10:22] I would just say thank you. [1:10:25] When you do get to the, when all of you get to the point [1:10:28] where you're, we'll send an email to all of the folks [1:10:31] that we'll supply you with. [1:10:33] Don't focus just on Queen Annes county. [1:10:37] 'cause they, you know, it, it's, it's the state. [1:10:40] This is a, this is a state issue, it's a country, [1:10:44] which is why we're going to MDH, right? [1:10:46] 'cause that's their job. [1:10:48] So make it as a, as a [1:10:51] and virtually, here's the strange thing. [1:10:54] Virtually every delegate [1:10:55] and senator agree with you, especially on the Eastern shore. [1:10:58] They've been helping us. We've been working with [1:11:02] Tom Hutchinson and, and I forget the other guy there. [1:11:07] Johnny Mo, Johnny Mtz, et cetera, et cetera. [1:11:10] So it's not just our county, it's really the state. [1:11:15] So thank you [1:11:19] Phil, you have anything? [1:11:25] Yeah, I, I, I, first of all, I want to thank our staff. [1:11:29] I want to thank our finance department. [1:11:31] I want to thank our department heads. [1:11:32] I want to thank our directors [1:11:34] and the various departments that put together these budgets [1:11:37] that they submit to our county administrator [1:11:38] for his approval and then onto the commissioners. [1:11:41] And a lot of times they ask that they get or told no, [1:11:44] but they work hard and they work diligently to try to do [1:11:47] the best they can for the dollars that we are, [1:11:50] we collect in taxes and, and other storms of revenue. [1:11:52] So to our, to again to our staff. [1:11:55] Thank you very much for everything that you guys do [1:11:57] and you are appreciated. [1:12:03] Jack, you good? No, I'm gonna, yeah. Okay. [1:12:07] So I'm gonna shift to like some [1:12:11] of the financial stuff that we've talked [1:12:12] about and heard about tonight. [1:12:14] I'm not gonna speak to anybody else in the state's budget [1:12:17] right now because just like us, they're going [1:12:19] through the same process of hearings, finding out what's [1:12:22] what No budget is finalized in the state of Maryland. [1:12:25] But I specifically real quickly just wanna speak [1:12:28] to the Talbot County comparison. [1:12:30] One thing Talbot County and Anne Arundel County across the [1:12:33] bridge have that we don't have the luxury [1:12:34] of is they have a tax cap that is set by the citizens. [1:12:38] The only thing that they can increase it for is education. [1:12:41] And they basically, that's [1:12:43] what they do is they will make sure they have all their [1:12:46] services paid for. [1:12:48] Everything is, that was budgeted that they, that they wanted [1:12:51] to get into budget is budgeted. [1:12:52] And then they all have a supplemental property tax [1:12:55] that goes against education. [1:12:58] So if they're 67 cents [1:12:59] right now, that's probably where they're at. [1:13:00] But I doubt 'cause they have a big [1:13:02] huge Kerwin hit this year. [1:13:05] I doubt they're gonna wind up at 67 at the end of the day. [1:13:07] It'll probably be over 80 cents [1:13:09] before it's all said and done. [1:13:10] And I'm not gonna speculate on the numbers [1:13:12] 'cause I don't know what they are right now, quite frankly. [1:13:14] I know as of right now we are the lowest at [1:13:16] 80 cents. I just looked it [1:13:17] Up. [1:13:18] Jackets 81.30 cents. [1:13:19] Okay. So, and then Cecil County, [1:13:21] they, they're, they're struggling. [1:13:23] And I, I really wanted to talk about education funding [1:13:26] because that is, and Dr. [1:13:27] Kler knows that's one of my passions. [1:13:29] 'cause I actually sat on the keland commission [1:13:31] on the budgeting and finance side of the Kwin Commission [1:13:34] and I voted against it. [1:13:35] I was one of three dissenting votes for one reason. [1:13:37] 'cause I knew we'd be sitting here today going through [1:13:40] what we're going through because they weren't leaving [1:13:44] local education local. [1:13:46] They were going to do one size fits [1:13:48] all for the entire state. [1:13:49] And they were gonna create a budget that focused on that. [1:13:52] Which leaves counties like us and and Somerset County [1:13:55] and a lot of our shore counties in our, [1:13:56] our western Maryland, our southern Maryland counties, trying [1:14:00] to figure out how you close that gap on the money [1:14:02] that they're telling you you need. [1:14:05] Meanwhile, we have things slipping through the cracks. [1:14:08] And I talked to Dr. Kler before tonight [1:14:10] 'cause I wanted to ask, there's six categories that have [1:14:12] what they call restricted funds [1:14:13] under the current commission. [1:14:15] Those restricted funds can be spent on those six items only. [1:14:19] Now they may have a surplus of half a million dollars, [1:14:22] you know, whatever, a million dollars. [1:14:24] He doesn't have the ability to move that where it's needed, [1:14:26] whether it's mental health [1:14:27] or any other part of the school system [1:14:30] that needs extra money. [1:14:31] Their only recourse is to come back to us. [1:14:34] And you heard the number that the state shorted Queen Annes [1:14:37] County over the last four years [1:14:38] and that is from 2018, that number. [1:14:41] So just add inflation to [1:14:42] that $12 million that we've been shorted. [1:14:44] We'd have all those mental health service, [1:14:46] we'd have a lot more here. [1:14:48] And we're trying to make it up. [1:14:49] We do every year for the last four years with seven, [1:14:52] $8 million a year. [1:14:54] But then you get to a point where [1:14:56] you gotta still look at the rest of the county [1:14:58] and the other tax paying people in the county and you, [1:15:00] and you gotta try to draw a balance where you can. [1:15:02] And, and I'm a firm believer in spending cuts. [1:15:05] I, I get that. But there's also a lot of necessity. [1:15:08] We're an aging community here in Queen Anne County. [1:15:10] That's why we had an ad, a seventh EMS unit. [1:15:13] And that's not a cheap proposition. [1:15:14] When I first became commissioner an ambulance costs [1:15:18] $325,000 [1:15:20] and it costs roughly 600,000 to put a crew on the road. [1:15:23] Now an ambulance is well over seven to $800,000 [1:15:27] and a crew was $1.2 million to put on the road. [1:15:30] Right? So again, and, [1:15:33] and I'm telling you, we're gonna need another [1:15:34] ambulance within the next five years. [1:15:37] So all that's facing us. [1:15:39] Not to mention the fact that we have capital projects. [1:15:41] We've been very diligent about trying [1:15:43] to pay it forward in terms [1:15:44] of capital projects so we're not hitting the bond. [1:15:46] That's how we have AAA bond rating [1:15:48] because they look at our fiscal responsibility [1:15:50] and how we spend money and how we pay our bills [1:15:53] and how we look to the future. [1:15:55] So Kerwin is the biggest thing out there in the state. [1:15:59] Statewide. Every county in this state is struggling making [1:16:02] that mandate. [1:16:04] That's, that's coming down each year, next year. [1:16:06] And I'm telling you all right now, [1:16:08] 'cause be sitting back here next year [1:16:09] and this conversation's gonna be a lot worse. [1:16:11] 'cause next year the state is supposed to almost triple [1:16:13] what we're supposed to get because they call it the [1:16:16] fiscal cliff of education. [1:16:17] Next year, that's when all the teachers are supposed [1:16:19] to make their minimum salaries. [1:16:21] That's when a lot of teachers are going to make more. [1:16:24] Because how many in here started out at the same salary [1:16:26] and worked for it for 10, 15 years at the same salary? [1:16:29] Anybody? I don't think so. [1:16:31] But that's what teachers are gonna be doing based on if I'm [1:16:34] a first year teacher and I make 60,000, [1:16:36] but there's a teacher in there that's been under the [1:16:38] previous systems only making 65. [1:16:40] Do you think that teacher making 65 that's been there six, [1:16:43] eight years is gonna be okay [1:16:45] with a first year teacher coming in at 60? [1:16:47] No, they're gonna want more money. [1:16:49] And that's understandable. We all would. [1:16:50] That's human nature. And that's, [1:16:52] that's what's gonna come due next year. [1:16:54] And that's when we're gonna see the biggest hit of Kerwin. [1:16:56] And it's convenient. It's [1:16:58] after an election year, so nobody has [1:17:00] to talk about it right now. [1:17:02] All you have to do is read the papers. [1:17:04] Look at the day after signing died. [1:17:05] You had the Senate president [1:17:07] and you had the speaker of the house come out [1:17:08] and say, we've got three things we've gotta address [1:17:10] between now and next session. [1:17:12] Kerwin the highway user revenues, which is how we take care [1:17:16] of all our roads in the state and the Medicare expansion [1:17:19] or Medicaid expansion and total. [1:17:22] Right now they're projected to be a $2.2 billion deficit [1:17:25] before they drop the gravel next year. [1:17:28] So there's a lot to process. [1:17:30] This next year's gonna be a lot harder than [1:17:32] what we faced before. [1:17:33] I just just, we were just at a forum [1:17:35] where everybody was talking about Queen Annes County [1:17:37] and I told everybody there, the problem isn't [1:17:39] in Queen Annes County right now. [1:17:40] It's whatever's gonna happen [1:17:41] across that bridge in Annapolis. [1:17:43] So thank you. [1:17:47] These guys make my job easy. They know everything. [1:17:51] I make a motion. Can I mention one more? Oh sure, sure. [1:17:56] Is Jess here? Is Jess still here? Jesse? Jesse, yes. [1:18:01] I'll talk to you afterwards. We're, [1:18:05] we're gonna look at a feasibility study [1:18:07] for sports Fields up county, like up by Kent County. [1:18:10] There's, there's no red lights on Route 3 0 1. [1:18:15] So I'll talk to you after this. Thank you [1:18:16] Sir. [1:18:18] Now you want a motion? Absolutely. Motion [1:18:19] To adjourn. Second. [1:18:21] All those in favor? Aye. [1:18:22] Thank you all for coming out tonight. Yep.