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Leading the order

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for the Queen Annes County Planning Commission

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on July 9th, 2026.

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We'll start with the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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in the United States of America and to the republic.

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She stands one nation under God, indivisible, liberty

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and justice for all

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public comments.

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We had no one signed up.

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Okay. Updates legislative and legal matters.

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Oh, you're right there. Sorry. Yeah, good morning.

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Move one over. Hmm. You wanna move one over?

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I'll just Scoot. That's it. Yeah.

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Good morning, Amy Mordoff, planning director.

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I have a few updates.

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As you know, we had a a long list

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of citizen sponsor text amendments.

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Three of them were approved on the 9th of June

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and will become effective on the 25th of July.

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Those were amendments to the airport,

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Kent Island Gateway District

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and the WVC had two text amendments.

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Those will become effective in July.

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As I said, two of them,

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26 0 6, 26 0 5, 26 0 6 is the

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suburban commercial proposal

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to change the impervious surface limit from 45 to 80%.

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And then the proposal to alter the supplemental gas

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standards relative to the setback from an intersection

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and how you measure that setback.

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Those two text amendments

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had their public hearing on the 30th of June

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and are potentially up

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for a vote at the commissioner's next meeting,

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which is on the 14th of July.

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The other two text amendments

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that are still hanging out there are relative

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to the open space provisions, both in the TDR

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and NCD districts.

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Those projects have had a, they,

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those two text amendments had their public hearings on May,

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May 26th, and then on the 9th of June when they may have

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been voted upon, the commissioners were considerate

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of comments that were received relative

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to maybe narrowing down non-agricultural uses

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that are permissible in open space specific to

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projects that have been subject to the,

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the lot line adjustment as proposed.

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So the commissioners requested that staff

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put forward an amendment for their consideration.

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So they are going to introduce an amendment

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that is substantive enough

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because we are looking to change what is permissible

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in the open space.

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So at their next meeting, which is the 14th of July meeting,

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that amendment to the two amendments,

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which is really one amendment which will apply to both

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because the open space provisions are in one table.

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So the TTDR

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and NCD provisions are sit in the same place in terms of

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what is permissible in open space.

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So that amendment will be presented

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and introduced at the 14th of July meeting,

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and we'll come back to you for recommendation.

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So that one's taking a little

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longer to go through the process.

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In terms of general updates, just to let you know,

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I had mentioned to you the Turning Point Energy case,

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which is three co-located community solar projects

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that total almost 10 megawatts

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and is cited in the town of Centerville's growth area.

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I had mentioned that we were going to intervene in that case

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and Lindsey on our behalf filed that petition

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to Intervene, which was entered into the

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record on the 8th of June.

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And we are just continuing to participate

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in the public utility law judge

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and the Public Service Commission's

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consideration of that case.

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There are several dates that are relative

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to submitting testament testimony and briefs

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and Lindsay's just been keeping up with that.

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And we will be making comments

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and going on the record as appropriate to represent

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what we feel is the correct interpretation of our code

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and the state's renewable energy provisions.

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Additionally, we had

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canceled our August meeting for the Mako Conference.

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that we might hold a special meeting in August if we had any

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items for the agenda, but we do not.

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So our next meeting will be on the,

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on the seventh in s September.

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I was trying to get the date, but, so no August, okay.

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Hmm, no August, no August.

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But at the Mako Conference, which is the 12th

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through the 15th of August, just to let you know that

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I'll be representing the county on a panel

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that is discussing building the bigger picture,

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and that is the county's,

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I'll be the county voice on a panel discussing a lot

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of the state provisions that impact development

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and how the county can leverage some of its resources

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and its own zoning to maximize some

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of the positive aspects of that partnership.

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As we've seen a lot of legislation

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that impacts our local zoning codes.

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Additionally, the Maker,

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the Mako Planners affiliate will hold a work session

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and I'll be chairing that session as the president

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of the Planners affiliate for Mako.

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That it, That's everything.

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Miscellaneous staff items,

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Those were my miscellaneous items.

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Okay.

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Alright. Major project. Thank you.

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Thank you. Reliable Development Company.

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Steve? Yes,

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Good morning.

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I'm Steve Johnson, senior Planner with planning and zoning.

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It's good to see everybody again.

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I want to thank Rob for filling in for me last month.

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I hope he didn't give you too much of trouble

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as stated by the the chair.

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We are here to discuss SP 26 dash oh two dash 0 1 72

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for Reliable Development Company LLC, who is proposing

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to construct a 40,040 square foot building for the design

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and fabrication of specialty vehicles

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and is requesting major site plan approval.

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This project did receive concept plan approval

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in December of last year.

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What you're about to see is essentially the same as

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what was presented then.

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Project's located in Stevensville south of Route 50

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and East Pier One Road behind the target.

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More specifically tax map 56 parcel 20 lot 1 0 9 totals

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4.411 acres

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and is located off of Ellendale Farm Lane in Stevensville.

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The target is the large white building you see

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at the center of your screen there.

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And as you can see by the area,

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the property is currently utilized for agricultural use

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Property zoned urban commercial

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and is located within the Chester Stevensville growth area.

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It's also located in the priority funding area,

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which is not shown on the screen.

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Property's partially located within the RCA

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designation of the critical area.

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This is the dark green sliver property

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on the east side there.

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That area is subject to an easement that limits use

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to passive recreation planting

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and landscape landscaping associated,

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not associated with the proposal.

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No part of this proposal encroaches upon

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that area as required.

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All chapter 18 landscape requirements are met

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with this proposal that includes on onsite parking lot,

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street buffer and screening plantings.

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There are 0.189 acres of non-Title wetlands

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and 0.52 acres of the associated buffer buffer on site.

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These are the bright green areas

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at the center of your screen.

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The applicant is proposing to disturb 0.188 acres

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of wetlands and 0.435 acres of buffer.

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This disturbance has been authorized by MDE

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and a copy of that authorization

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was included in your packets.

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There are 0.40 acres of woodlands on site

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of which the applicant is proposing to clear 0.15 acres

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that is delineated on your screen

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as the hatch brown and white area.

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Forest conservation has been addressed

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with the original subdivision

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and there are no steep slope streams, erosion hazard areas,

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endangered species or areas

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of a hundred year floodplain on site light.

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Here's a look at the site plan.

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Access is taken off

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of Thompson Creek Road shown

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circled in yellow on your screen.

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All uc, district non-residential development standards are

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met with this proposal including floor area

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and imper area, which are both well

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below the maximum permitted all chapter 18 parking

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requirements met with this proposal and stormwater will be

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provided on site and has been reviewed and approved by DPW.

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Should you have any questions

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regarding the stormwater on site there

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as a representative from DPW here

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to answer any questions you may have.

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Property will be served by public water and sewer

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and the project meets the requirements

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of the adequate public facilities ordinance.

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A copy of the A PFO approval letter was included

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in your packets as well.

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There is a overhead flight easement that runs

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through this property, which restricts structures

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and plantings to a maximum height of 35 feet.

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This proposed development will comply with that restriction

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as the building is proposed to be 34.8 feet in height

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and all plantings will be kept below 35 feet.

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It should be noted that the airport manager does support

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conditional approval of the project subject

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to the conditions that were included.

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It's in the staff report.

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There are road improvements

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proposed as part of this development.

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They include milling, resurfacing, res striping,

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and minor widening along the south

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side of Thompson Creek Road.

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There in the dark dark ray that you see on your screen,

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that is to supply a full width shoulder and curb.

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During concept plan review,

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the planning commission had concerns with truck turning

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movements in and out of this site.

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To address that, the applicant has developed a truck turning

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exhibit that was included in your packets.

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This is a snippet from that.

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This is the inbound traffic coming into the site.

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The trucks are shown as light blue

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and the paths they take are shown as purple on your screens.

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And this is what outbound turning movements may look like.

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It's my understanding that the applicant has brought

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their traffic engineer here.

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So if you have any questions,

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they should be able to address those.

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Here's a look at the renderings of the building.

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This is looking towards the south.

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This is the entrance of the front of the building.

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This is looking towards the northeast shows, the west side

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and the rear of the building.

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This is looking towards the northwest,

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which is the east side of the building in the rear again,

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and this is looking towards the southwest.

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With that, before I turn it over to the applicant,

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I do want to thank them.

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They were a very good partner in this review,

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the app, both the applicant

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and the engineer worked really well with us and,

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and I, I wanted to give him a compliment for that.

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Good morning. Good morning.

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My name is Tim Glass Land Engineering

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and to my far right is John Brians with Tech Ops.

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Remember seeing him before and

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to my immediate right is Dorsey Schultz

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with reliable real estate Development.

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Mark Keeley, as Steve mentioned, is also behind me

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with traffic concepts

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and Genevieve McFarlane is also here as well.

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Thank you Steve. That was pretty comprehensive on

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what we could or discuss any further.

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I will just simply mention to you that with regards to

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the SHA approval

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and access we have, we've checked all the boxes there.

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Essentially where we're at right now is submitting

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for final bond estimates for surety

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and submitting the app, actual application.

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I mean, we're through that, that process with them.

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And also I think Steve just mentioned that we have the

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MDE letter of authorization for the little bit

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of non-Title wetland buffer

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permits that we'll need for this.

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That's ha that has been issued.

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Quick note on drainage

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and stormwater management, just the site's been designed to,

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you know, meet the needs of really the site layout,

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what the, what the owner needs to have accomplished on

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that site that conduct his business effectively as well

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as circulation and stormwater drainage features.

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So we on site we have one microbio retention area,

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which is an ESD practice as required,

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and two submerge gravel wetlands to not only capture

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that runoff directly from all the impervious areas,

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but to store it, treat it, attenuate it,

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and reduce flows ultimately

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and total off of the site per requirements.

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So that in a nutshell is as a stormwater,

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it does provide more than required

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of the environmental site design volume, which is a volume

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of water that you have to capture, hold, treat, filter,

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and then treat before it's released.

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So we, we do comply with, with those requirements as well.

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And Steve mentioned also, I mean, we're prepared

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to essentially, you know, take care of any minor technical,

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there's a couple of minor comments we got from sanitary

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district about some notes and specs and pipe material

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and some things like that that's already listed in there

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in their standard details and, and construction criteria.

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But they wanted us to kind of dot the,

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i's cross the T's on the plans.

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There's a couple of minor technical

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notes we've gotta deal with there.

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And then we've got sureties

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and cost estimates that are, that are produced

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and prepared, ready to submit back to DPW

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so we can get the maintenance and inspection

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agreements recorded for stormwater.

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These are all kind of the finish line items that have

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to be done on all these commercial jobs Anyway, so we're,

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we're prepared to wrap all this up, close this out

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and help John get moving forward with

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what he intends to do with this site.

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And with that, I think, John,

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if you might wanna say a few words about, about the project,

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who you are and so forth, that'd be helpful.

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John Brianna, I'm the president at Tech Ops Specialty

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vehicles that have been there for nine and a half years.

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I'll let go. What, what Steve said.

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You know, I think working on a project like this in any

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county is, is difficult.

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And I think the amount of teamwork that's needed over time

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and, and it does take time, is important.

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And the county, both Steve

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and Rob have been great in coordinating with us.

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Numerous site visits, a lot of engagement about

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how we comply, but also, you know, kind

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of meet the needs of the business.

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And, and as we evolve,

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I'll mention just a couple things about the business itself,

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the physical location, the actual, you know, can, can island

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location itself and, and some

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of the people involved in the business.

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The best way to describe what we do,

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and I think most people know,

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but it's to just kind of like talk about some examples

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of projects that we do.

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We do a lot of work for the US government and a lot of state

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and local, a lot of Maryland centric work.

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Everybody kind of knows about FIFA World Cup

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and that the fact that that's going on the most

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of the first half of this year,

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our business was involved in designing

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and building three quarters of the vehicles

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that are being used at FIFA World Cup for a lot of the,

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the drone defense, nature

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and security aspects of what they're doing.

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That's, that's an example of it, right?

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It's trucks and trailers

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and they're being used to kind of track

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and mitigate threats from a security standpoint to,

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you know, high profile events,

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national level security events around the country.

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That's some of the work we do.

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Our biggest customers tend to fall within the US government.

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Homeland Security is a principal customer of ours.

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And, and the agencies, the,

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the departments within Secret Service,

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Homeland Security Investigations,

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federal Protective Service groups like that.

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The, so that's kind of a little bit of what we do.

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We have engineers, we have technicians,

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a lot of trades in the building.

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And then typical kind of front

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office administrative support.

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The physical location ends up being

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very important for the business.

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And I'll give it just a couple examples of it.

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One, in dealing with our customers, you know,

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the US government and kind of a lot of the, the management

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of projects like this tend

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to be headquartered outta the DC area.

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The ability for those customers to come to us physically

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think about building a house, right?

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You wanna sit down with an architect

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and look at the review, put your hands around it

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as the house is getting built, you want to visit it, see

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how it's going with the overall intent to,

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to serve the US government

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and give them what they need to do their job.

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The physical location facilitates a lot of that progress.

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So being close to the DC you know, metro area.

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In addition to that, we serve a lot of military groups.

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Aberdeen Proven Ground is a customer of ours,

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PAX River area, Webster outlying

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Field as a customer of ours.

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So some of the military installations

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around the Maryland area also facilitate

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just good business practice

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and the ability to host customers when needed and,

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and have them be a part of the project

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and get what they need ultimately to support their mission.

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The businesses has been growing.

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I've been there nine and a half years

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and we've, we've nearly grown every year I've been there.

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KRM has been an am an amazing host. They're great.

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The business park is in high demand

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and the facility itself wasn't necessarily set up for

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what we do as a business.

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You know, larger doors

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to bring vehicles in and out of the building.

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Efficient work that's associated with that.

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The, the height of the building, you know, inside in order

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to do some of the testing we do on some of the vehicles.

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It it, and it just wasn't set up for that.

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So they have a backlog of, of requirements.

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We've been able to scale and grow there recently,

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but the reality is, is we need to find a new home.

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And this headquarters, you know, is, is,

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is in support of that.

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In addition, there's sensitive nature in some of what we do.

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So the ability to secure vehicles on our lot,

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not have it be such an open area, things like

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that end up facilitating what we do.

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And also allow us to consider more confidential work

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with the, for the, for the government.

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The people in the building are, are critical to what we do.

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It's a, it's a Maryland business.

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It's a Maryland LLC, it's owned by Marylanders,

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numerous Naval Academy graduates in that group.

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We are a veteran-owned small business.

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And then we pull from both the western

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and eastern shore of Maryland to support what we do.

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Head of engineering is the United States is a Maryland

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University of Maryland grad.

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Our front office, you know,

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somewhat comes from the western shore,

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some from the eastern shore, but a lot

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of our technicians in trades do come from Queen Anne County.

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And that's critical to what we do.

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The maritime industry is a nice

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sister industry to what we do.

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If, if you understand boats and working in engines and,

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and tinkering with tractors

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and et cetera, you tend to to be able to pick up what we do.

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And that's important for us to be able to continue to grow,

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to continue to find labor that we need to support

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what we do right here in the county.

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So I say all that just to say that it, it's, you know,

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we're, we're a business that's on the move and successful

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and it's, it's in many respects

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because of where we're located and it's as much a,

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a Maryland and Queen Anne County story as anything else.

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And I think our ability to continue to be here,

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to grow here is important.

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And I think, I think that's a, a large amount of pride

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that everybody can take in, in the success of this business,

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but a collective success of a

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Maryland and Queenland County business.

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Thank you, John. I guess at this point, you know,

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we would, we would entertain any questions you guys have,

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we'll be happy to answer those.

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Otherwise, you know, we would respectfully request your

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approval of the final site plan so that we can

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button this project up

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and like I said,

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get John moving in the right direction here.

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Questions Madam Chair?

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Go ahead, Ben. Steve, can, can you give us some sort

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of graphic of where the runway is

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for Bay Bridge Airport in relation to the building?

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Yeah, I, I might have

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to pop outta my presentation real quick.

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I'm curious as to whether the building's directly in the

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approach path to use a pilot term or whether it's offset.

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Okay, so the, the property in questions here

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that's highlighted in blue and here

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You're, here's your, that tells me

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what I, what I'm asking. Okay. Yep.

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Slightly offset. Yep. Thank you. Sure. Oh, I need,

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I have a question regarding your traffic patterns.

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I don't know if you wanna bring up your traffic person

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or if you can address that.

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And primarily it is,

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and I'll give the county department heads up

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that they'll be asked probably to weigh in on their opinion

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as well, looking at the, What we're calling this,

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your traffic post sign for outbound trucks leaving

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the proposed project going westbound or eastbound on on 50

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and recalling the conversation we had about ingress

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and egress out of this particular property at

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that intersection with Route 18 or eight south.

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And so why are the westbound

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traffic exiting your property crossing

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a a thoroughfare that's in a car sometimes challenging.

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And why are we sending, we you suggesting they

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go left outta there speaking specifically about larger

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trucks, tractor trailer scale

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and not going eastbound on that access road to the turnabout

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and coming back to get in the queue.

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So we have 45% of our traffic trucks

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and passenger car vehicles

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traveling westbound over the bridge so

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that traffic would exit the site making a left

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and then a right onto to Maryland eight

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and using the interchanged access 50.

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Right. But why not?

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Because that's a tricky exit coming off the property

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and onto that access road, whatever that name is,

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versus turning right, going down

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to the circle and coming back.

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So if you go to the circle,

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then you're turning right onto us 50

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and you've gotta go down and no,

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No, no, you go around the circle

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and come back to get in the queue. I'm just curious.

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Yeah, I mean that that,

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That's an, it's, it's a, it's an alternate route.

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So turning, turning right, going

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around the circle and then coming back.

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Correct. Because the, the design

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of the access as shown with the auto turn exhibit shows

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that you can, I, I

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wb 67 I think was the truck that we used,

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which is the largest tractor trailer can negotiate that. I,

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I have no question about the engineering involved in a,

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a truck being certified to make a particular turn.

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Yeah. Fantastic. Thank you for all that information

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and data I'm just talking about logistically speaking,

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I come at a target and I often wait several minutes in a car

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to turn left to go to that same intersection.

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And I'm just wondering as a tractor trailer driver in a

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circum under a similar circumstance that that would be

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that much more challenging.

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I'm just curious to why we're directing traffic

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to the left coming out of your this

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facility versus going right.

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Yeah, I just, I think that's, you know,

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a professional truck driver is gonna take the easiest route,

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I don't think going down to the roundabout

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and trying to Well,

523
00:25:30,845 --> 00:25:32,645
Well there's easy and they're safe and practical.

524
00:25:33,145 --> 00:25:36,325
So I'm just, we we talk about this a lot about yeah. Right.

525
00:25:36,725 --> 00:25:39,525
Specifically case in point are mining

526
00:25:39,695 --> 00:25:41,325
extraction facilities here in the county.

527
00:25:41,515 --> 00:25:44,085
Yeah. We require them to go way out

528
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:46,485
of their way roundabout over the hill through the woods

529
00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:48,405
to avoid certain intersections

530
00:25:48,405 --> 00:25:51,005
or certain parts of town that are school bus heavy

531
00:25:51,105 --> 00:25:52,845
or business heavy or you know,

532
00:25:52,915 --> 00:25:54,605
soft shoulder, whatever the reason is.

533
00:25:55,325 --> 00:25:56,325
I understand what you're saying. We

534
00:25:56,325 --> 00:25:57,805
Can direct traffic where we choose to direct traffic

535
00:25:58,665 --> 00:26:01,165
and I'm just wondering if that, if we're currently under

536
00:26:01,165 --> 00:26:03,805
that yellow arrow that's proposed, if that's the safest

537
00:26:04,485 --> 00:26:05,525
egress from your property.

538
00:26:05,765 --> 00:26:08,005
I get what you're saying, it's a left, we're trying

539
00:26:08,005 --> 00:26:09,725
to eliminate left turn to where Well

540
00:26:09,725 --> 00:26:12,405
It's, it's a short, it's a short run there too, but

541
00:26:12,685 --> 00:26:13,725
I don't think,

542
00:26:13,865 --> 00:26:18,605
and maybe John can answer this is not really

543
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,605
a, a large truck generator.

544
00:26:22,925 --> 00:26:25,685
I mean the trucks come in, deliver parts. There's

545
00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:26,965
One a day or something was per Joe's I

546
00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:27,965
Think.

547
00:26:27,965 --> 00:26:29,765
Yeah. And I'm not sure. So we, an I analyze

548
00:26:30,315 --> 00:26:32,645
traffic engineers analyze peak hour.

549
00:26:33,845 --> 00:26:36,605
I don't know exactly when your truck's coming in,

550
00:26:36,785 --> 00:26:41,365
but I probably not during peak hours.

551
00:26:41,645 --> 00:26:45,165
I know deliveries try not to come to facilities

552
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:47,405
during peak time period.

553
00:26:47,585 --> 00:26:51,925
So I would suspect your truck traffic is not gonna arrive

554
00:26:52,585 --> 00:26:55,045
during that seven to 9 46 mid morning

555
00:26:55,095 --> 00:26:57,005
Later in the morning, sometimes afternoon.

556
00:26:57,305 --> 00:27:00,325
And I think that probably the, the small number

557
00:27:00,325 --> 00:27:02,885
of trucks accessing this site

558
00:27:03,345 --> 00:27:08,165
and then not being peak hour trips, I would think mitigates

559
00:27:09,465 --> 00:27:13,845
any, any conflicts with the commuting public.

560
00:27:14,155 --> 00:27:17,345
Okay. I see engineers representing the department,

561
00:27:17,405 --> 00:27:18,505
public works and roads.

562
00:27:18,505 --> 00:27:21,585
Do you have any, can you reaffirm these comments

563
00:27:21,805 --> 00:27:24,785
or alleviate my concerns Mr.

564
00:27:25,265 --> 00:27:28,905
Ger or Mr. Moore about egress of truck traffic on

565
00:27:28,905 --> 00:27:30,265
that stretch of road there?

566
00:27:30,265 --> 00:27:32,145
That's pretty congested at most times.

567
00:27:33,135 --> 00:27:34,945
Also Henry here, the state highway.

568
00:27:35,895 --> 00:27:38,385
That, that the state highway road, you might

569
00:27:38,475 --> 00:27:39,475
Chime in.

570
00:27:39,475 --> 00:27:41,465
That's fine. I, I defer to you as to

571
00:27:41,465 --> 00:27:45,505
who con addresses the concern and it's not a major one.

572
00:27:45,505 --> 00:27:47,345
It just seems like there's an alternate route

573
00:27:47,345 --> 00:27:48,425
that might be safer and better

574
00:27:48,425 --> 00:27:52,025
and why that's not being pro proposed as option A.

575
00:27:52,105 --> 00:27:53,985
I don't know, is my question.

576
00:27:56,015 --> 00:27:57,375
I mean, I can take it back to our

577
00:27:57,455 --> 00:27:58,455
Traffic.

578
00:27:58,455 --> 00:27:59,175
I think you're gonna need to be on a mic,

579
00:27:59,235 --> 00:28:00,375
sir, if you don't mind.

580
00:28:03,775 --> 00:28:06,375
I would add just quickly in support of Mr.

581
00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:10,095
Lay's reservations, I'd hate to be the sheriff that has

582
00:28:10,095 --> 00:28:14,935
to enforce unless enough space is there to clear the turn.

583
00:28:16,855 --> 00:28:18,575
I don't think that road sign

584
00:28:18,575 --> 00:28:20,535
that you proposed is particularly effective

585
00:28:20,595 --> 00:28:23,535
and in support of Commissioner Lay's position, I'd like

586
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:24,935
to see something that says no right

587
00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:26,935
or no left turn right for trucks.

588
00:28:28,005 --> 00:28:30,015
Well again, we, we ran the auto turn

589
00:28:30,355 --> 00:28:33,495
and there's, it's, there's adequate space

590
00:28:33,715 --> 00:28:36,615
for the largest truck to, to turn left

591
00:28:37,475 --> 00:28:38,655
If there's no other traffic.

592
00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:41,415
Right? Well it's, it's, you wait for a gap.

593
00:28:41,565 --> 00:28:43,615
It's just, I mean these are professional truck drivers,

594
00:28:43,615 --> 00:28:44,695
they're gonna wait for a gap.

595
00:28:44,695 --> 00:28:48,335
Yeah, no, I understand that. And they're gonna proceed.

596
00:28:48,455 --> 00:28:50,935
I mean, you're also gonna have conflicts with traffic

597
00:28:51,085 --> 00:28:54,695
with a truck trying to negotiate the, the roundabout.

598
00:28:55,595 --> 00:28:59,215
Yes. So I, I think the safest way is to make,

599
00:28:59,805 --> 00:29:01,055
wait for a gap in traffic.

600
00:29:01,445 --> 00:29:03,575
It's gonna be off peak hour, make a left

601
00:29:03,835 --> 00:29:06,575
and then use, use the state road

602
00:29:07,355 --> 00:29:09,535
to access us 50.

603
00:29:09,935 --> 00:29:14,135
I think that's the safest, most efficient route for

604
00:29:14,135 --> 00:29:15,135
Trucks.

605
00:29:15,135 --> 00:29:16,415
Is that the state's position as well, sir?

606
00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:18,535
To the best of my knowledge, yes.

607
00:29:18,535 --> 00:29:21,335
And like I said, I can take it back to our traffic engineers

608
00:29:21,335 --> 00:29:23,575
and tractor division in the office

609
00:29:24,515 --> 00:29:28,495
and if what their thoughts are on trying to send tractor

610
00:29:28,495 --> 00:29:30,015
to trailers up to that roundabout,

611
00:29:30,015 --> 00:29:32,495
that is a very small roundabout to try

612
00:29:32,495 --> 00:29:34,815
to make a u-turn within it basically.

613
00:29:35,085 --> 00:29:36,975
Well if you're coming eastbound, you're take,

614
00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:38,255
you're cutting a u-turn on that,

615
00:29:38,355 --> 00:29:41,220
that's the proposed entrance route for eastbound traffic.

616
00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:46,125
Right? Sure. You're not coming off again.

617
00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:49,365
It, it, it also suggests it's a little weird that

618
00:29:49,905 --> 00:29:52,605
you're not, you're you're going out one way

619
00:29:53,425 --> 00:29:55,205
but you're not coming in that same way.

620
00:29:55,205 --> 00:29:57,445
Right? So if you turn the page, you're suggesting

621
00:29:57,445 --> 00:30:00,165
that eastbound traffic go all the way down to that circle,

622
00:30:00,385 --> 00:30:02,565
do that hairpin u-turn that we just mentioned

623
00:30:02,745 --> 00:30:04,165
and coming back into the facility.

624
00:30:04,505 --> 00:30:07,725
Why are you not getting off the exit ramp right off the

625
00:30:07,725 --> 00:30:10,045
bridge and turning right and then merging over?

626
00:30:11,335 --> 00:30:13,865
Well it's, I mean you're talking about going down

627
00:30:13,865 --> 00:30:17,185
and turning a truck, turning around

628
00:30:18,125 --> 00:30:19,225
the entire roundabout.

629
00:30:19,405 --> 00:30:23,465
If you're coming from westbound 50, you don't need

630
00:30:23,465 --> 00:30:26,345
to traverse through the entire roundabout. It's you're,

631
00:30:26,765 --> 00:30:29,865
But it's arguably a, a similar if not tighter turn,

632
00:30:30,805 --> 00:30:32,105
at least on the map we're looking at. I mean,

633
00:30:32,105 --> 00:30:33,145
If you're, if you're going all the way

634
00:30:33,145 --> 00:30:34,425
around the round the roundabout,

635
00:30:34,445 --> 00:30:37,065
the truck's gonna be dragging its wheels through the center

636
00:30:37,065 --> 00:30:39,345
of the roundabout if you're trying to,

637
00:30:40,315 --> 00:30:41,745
Which I believe is built for that.

638
00:30:42,295 --> 00:30:43,745
Yeah, it's, it's built for that.

639
00:30:43,845 --> 00:30:47,545
But again, you know, the analysis shows that

640
00:30:47,645 --> 00:30:49,505
and State Highway reviewed the study.

641
00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:52,225
They reviewed the trip distribution and the number of trips

642
00:30:52,605 --> 00:30:56,225
and they approved it and then they, they asked

643
00:30:56,365 --> 00:30:58,905
for the truck turning radius, which we provided them.

644
00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:02,705
And then we're, we're designing the access specifically

645
00:31:04,285 --> 00:31:06,425
for trucks to exit and enter.

646
00:31:06,595 --> 00:31:07,865
Again, I understand all the

647
00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:09,265
design, engineering, and forethought.

648
00:31:09,265 --> 00:31:10,745
Fantastic. Thank you. Appreciate that.

649
00:31:10,925 --> 00:31:13,825
No problems, no issues. It's the simple logistics of why

650
00:31:14,965 --> 00:31:16,265
you still haven't answer my question

651
00:31:16,285 --> 00:31:18,425
to why are we bringing trucks in one way

652
00:31:18,425 --> 00:31:19,545
but not the same way out.

653
00:31:20,605 --> 00:31:23,785
It seems to me that would be, if if your argument is

654
00:31:23,785 --> 00:31:25,985
where you want to position yourself, that's fine,

655
00:31:26,525 --> 00:31:29,105
but it seems contradictory to me this

656
00:31:29,105 --> 00:31:30,105
Way.

657
00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:32,585
So I think what he's talking about is this here.

658
00:31:34,755 --> 00:31:38,345
Right. So I yeah, we,

659
00:31:38,445 --> 00:31:40,705
we have distributed the traffic.

660
00:31:40,835 --> 00:31:44,345
There are 25 inbound

661
00:31:45,925 --> 00:31:49,385
AM trips from, from northbound.

662
00:31:50,445 --> 00:31:51,465
I'm on page 17.

663
00:31:52,525 --> 00:31:54,265
I'm looking at this, this exhibit here,

664
00:31:54,775 --> 00:31:56,145
this color coded wrap mount.

665
00:31:56,145 --> 00:31:57,145
Yeah,

666
00:31:59,055 --> 00:32:01,345
Yeah, that's, that exhibit's not my study.

667
00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:03,145
And one page has you

668
00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:05,745
leaving one way and the other way it's,

669
00:32:05,885 --> 00:32:07,505
If I may add, this was an exhibit

670
00:32:07,505 --> 00:32:08,785
that we put together internally

671
00:32:08,845 --> 00:32:11,905
and coordination with, with tech ops to coordinate with

672
00:32:12,015 --> 00:32:16,025
that study the count study that's in your packet as well.

673
00:32:16,455 --> 00:32:18,945
This is not meant for everyday traffic like we're talking

674
00:32:18,945 --> 00:32:20,065
about the larger trucks.

675
00:32:20,525 --> 00:32:22,025
That's what this is, is meant for.

676
00:32:22,025 --> 00:32:25,465
This will be an internal kind of logistics plan just

677
00:32:25,525 --> 00:32:26,705
for the trucking.

678
00:32:26,705 --> 00:32:29,665
It sounds like, you know, based on the time of arrival,

679
00:32:30,175 --> 00:32:32,425
what we've done from the study, it's gonna be off peak hours

680
00:32:32,805 --> 00:32:35,985
as Mark mentioned that left turnout of the site isn't

681
00:32:36,205 --> 00:32:37,265
as much of a conflict

682
00:32:37,985 --> 00:32:38,985
because there won't be as much,

683
00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:40,765
much cuing at that time of day. Yeah.

684
00:32:41,505 --> 00:32:44,445
But then why Okay then well, okay, fine, fine. Thank you.

685
00:32:44,515 --> 00:32:47,365
Addressed and answered. Still have,

686
00:32:47,505 --> 00:32:51,325
I'm waiting clarity on why inbound trucks coming from the

687
00:32:51,325 --> 00:32:54,485
Bay Bridge are going under the underpass to go to

688
00:32:54,485 --> 00:32:55,525
that roundabout to come back

689
00:32:55,705 --> 00:32:57,485
and instead of getting off at the exit,

690
00:32:57,485 --> 00:32:58,485
That's not happening.

691
00:32:58,485 --> 00:33:00,005
And I didn't do that in my study.

692
00:33:00,585 --> 00:33:05,325
All the traffic that's entering this site, if,

693
00:33:05,465 --> 00:33:08,085
if you, I don't know if you have the study, it's on page 17,

694
00:33:08,595 --> 00:33:13,005
they're arriving, they use the interchange

695
00:33:13,185 --> 00:33:14,445
to access eight

696
00:33:14,665 --> 00:33:19,085
and then they turn left onto Thompson Creek Road.

697
00:33:21,105 --> 00:33:23,405
So this, you're talking about the long rundown and

698
00:33:23,405 --> 00:33:25,365
Then I'm talking about this exhibit right there

699
00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:29,165
that has him going past your facility, coming back to it

700
00:33:29,165 --> 00:33:31,205
through the roundabout that we've been talking about.

701
00:33:31,665 --> 00:33:34,965
Why is that the preferred means of entering

702
00:33:35,825 --> 00:33:38,445
for eastbound traffic instead of getting off the exit,

703
00:33:38,445 --> 00:33:40,005
immediately coming off the Bay Bridge

704
00:33:40,865 --> 00:33:42,565
To reduce one left turn in that,

705
00:33:42,565 --> 00:33:45,085
that lane at the intersection of Route eight

706
00:33:45,465 --> 00:33:46,965
and Pine Creek route.

707
00:33:47,635 --> 00:33:49,645
Okay, we can, I'm, I'm hearing con contradicting,

708
00:33:50,035 --> 00:33:53,285
contradicting to ions on, on

709
00:33:54,315 --> 00:33:57,965
from an expert, traffic expert

710
00:33:58,265 --> 00:33:59,805
who says trucks are gonna take the path

711
00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:00,965
of release resistance and then

712
00:34:01,585 --> 00:34:04,005
the next comment is they're gonna go down underneath this,

713
00:34:04,025 --> 00:34:05,805
go around, skip through Maloo and come back.

714
00:34:06,075 --> 00:34:08,765
Okay. I, I just, I'm, I'm, I need, I still,

715
00:34:09,305 --> 00:34:11,725
I'm still not super clear on why we're not doing

716
00:34:12,465 --> 00:34:13,465
So can I.

717
00:34:13,465 --> 00:34:15,405
Same entrance and egress pathways.

718
00:34:15,925 --> 00:34:18,605
I, I, when I do a study, I try to take the

719
00:34:19,165 --> 00:34:20,605
worst case traffic scenario

720
00:34:21,005 --> 00:34:23,045
'cause it's the easiest path for me to get

721
00:34:24,085 --> 00:34:25,085
Approved.

722
00:34:25,085 --> 00:34:25,445
Sure. Human nature. Yeah.

723
00:34:25,745 --> 00:34:30,285
So I had all my trips from coming across the Bay Bridge

724
00:34:31,095 --> 00:34:32,245
using the interchange

725
00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:36,285
and then as I said, coming down south,

726
00:34:36,745 --> 00:34:37,745
The shorter run.

727
00:34:37,795 --> 00:34:39,805
Yeah, right. The more logical Right.

728
00:34:39,825 --> 00:34:42,285
Direct route. And we, so then we did the auto turn just

729
00:34:42,285 --> 00:34:45,395
to make sure that truck traffic could do

730
00:34:45,395 --> 00:34:46,955
what I'm showing in the study and they can,

731
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:53,195
and then I guess Dorsey had an alternative.

732
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,515
I I don't think it's a good idea to say no left turns.

733
00:34:56,915 --> 00:35:01,835
I mean I think the best access is to, to keep

734
00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:03,795
the full access movement.

735
00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:07,395
'cause again, this is a very limited

736
00:35:09,785 --> 00:35:12,195
generator in terms of tractor trailers.

737
00:35:12,635 --> 00:35:14,755
And again those tractor, the tractor trailer

738
00:35:15,465 --> 00:35:19,355
that will visit the site is most likely not gonna

739
00:35:19,355 --> 00:35:20,515
happen during the peak hour

740
00:35:21,575 --> 00:35:22,575
To the next page.

741
00:35:23,315 --> 00:35:26,555
I I hear you and I, I don't necessarily agree with you,

742
00:35:26,815 --> 00:35:29,155
but it's just from a presentation.

743
00:35:29,155 --> 00:35:31,835
But when I'm reading this, it sounds like you're

744
00:35:33,105 --> 00:35:35,155
proposing two different scenarios

745
00:35:35,215 --> 00:35:37,565
and then saying they're both the best, but I'm,

746
00:35:37,625 --> 00:35:38,885
I'm not. I'm I'm

747
00:35:38,885 --> 00:35:40,605
Saying okay, your team is Yes,

748
00:35:40,605 --> 00:35:41,045
Yes. And that,

749
00:35:41,045 --> 00:35:42,325
That's, and that's confusing

750
00:35:42,325 --> 00:35:44,485
to the people sitting over here that that's who are trying

751
00:35:44,485 --> 00:35:45,845
to interpret your intentions. If I,

752
00:35:45,845 --> 00:35:46,965
If I can just kind of summarize

753
00:35:46,965 --> 00:35:49,525
and bring back, we've got four want, two inbound,

754
00:35:49,525 --> 00:35:52,125
two outbound, I Sure, sure.

755
00:35:55,025 --> 00:35:56,405
Two inbound, two outbound.

756
00:35:56,405 --> 00:35:58,165
And the only route that differs from

757
00:35:58,315 --> 00:36:01,605
what was in the traffic report was this one

758
00:36:01,605 --> 00:36:03,405
where I show further down right at

759
00:36:03,405 --> 00:36:05,405
The circle and coming back through through Yep. Yes. That

760
00:36:05,405 --> 00:36:08,885
Was tip only to reduce any left turn at the

761
00:36:08,885 --> 00:36:09,885
End.

762
00:36:09,885 --> 00:36:11,565
That's not necessarily a preferred recommended route.

763
00:36:11,565 --> 00:36:13,485
That's just simply the alternative route.

764
00:36:13,485 --> 00:36:15,605
Simply like turning right turn only

765
00:36:15,605 --> 00:36:17,765
would be an alternate route. Yes sir. Understood.

766
00:36:17,905 --> 00:36:19,485
For the one tractor trailer that,

767
00:36:19,485 --> 00:36:23,365
that comes each once a day during off peak hours.

768
00:36:23,395 --> 00:36:25,325
Okay, now that, now that's clear. Okay.

769
00:36:25,325 --> 00:36:26,445
Thank Sorry for the confusion.

770
00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:29,685
No, no, it's, you leave a little, when you leave room

771
00:36:29,685 --> 00:36:32,765
for interpretation, you get different interpretations.

772
00:36:34,145 --> 00:36:36,565
But I appreciate you that, that Thank you. But

773
00:36:36,605 --> 00:36:38,245
I completely addressed Questions.

774
00:36:38,245 --> 00:36:40,765
Un unless the county department has anything to add

775
00:36:40,765 --> 00:36:43,405
or subtract from that testimony on behalf

776
00:36:43,405 --> 00:36:44,605
of Department of Public Works.

777
00:36:45,085 --> 00:36:46,205
'cause you've been involved in this, I'm sure.

778
00:36:49,715 --> 00:36:52,005
Good morning. Lee Edgar, chief engineer

779
00:36:52,005 --> 00:36:53,325
with the Department of Public Works.

780
00:36:54,065 --> 00:36:57,085
I'm not quite as intimately knowledgeable with regard

781
00:36:57,105 --> 00:37:00,525
to the exhibit and how that all came together and such.

782
00:37:00,545 --> 00:37:02,725
So the applicant is really best to speak to that.

783
00:37:03,185 --> 00:37:06,005
But I am hearing the discussion and understand your question

784
00:37:06,005 --> 00:37:08,445
and concern and want to provide some insight

785
00:37:08,445 --> 00:37:09,525
with regard to that.

786
00:37:10,165 --> 00:37:12,445
Commissioner, you're always good to add, ask the question.

787
00:37:12,865 --> 00:37:15,885
As always, we're concerned about the safety

788
00:37:16,105 --> 00:37:18,525
and, you know, movement for our motoring public and such.

789
00:37:19,185 --> 00:37:22,325
In this case, as you brought up the, the matter of

790
00:37:23,555 --> 00:37:25,165
extractions and mines

791
00:37:25,165 --> 00:37:29,405
and such in the review of this project, the

792
00:37:30,025 --> 00:37:31,365
trucks coming in

793
00:37:31,365 --> 00:37:35,005
and out serving this are very, very few in number.

794
00:37:35,075 --> 00:37:38,645
Whereas with a mine that that product is,

795
00:37:38,645 --> 00:37:41,365
you have a vast quantity of vehicles coming in and out.

796
00:37:42,285 --> 00:37:45,045
I would tend to agree with the applicant that

797
00:37:46,825 --> 00:37:48,005
not restricting this

798
00:37:48,025 --> 00:37:52,005
and leaving, leaving the access to

799
00:37:52,025 --> 00:37:54,565
and from the site to the discretion

800
00:37:54,745 --> 00:37:58,805
of the truck driver would be the best scenario in this,

801
00:37:59,225 --> 00:38:04,045
in this case, for example, a tractor trailer and,

802
00:38:04,065 --> 00:38:06,805
and I don't know how many tractor trailers they would really

803
00:38:06,835 --> 00:38:10,325
have indicate that was kind of the worst case scenario.

804
00:38:11,665 --> 00:38:14,965
Making that right turn outta the site, going back

805
00:38:15,105 --> 00:38:16,645
to the traffic circle

806
00:38:16,705 --> 00:38:19,845
and coming back, the vehicles entering that circle,

807
00:38:20,195 --> 00:38:23,125
even though it is marked with a deceleration speed

808
00:38:23,145 --> 00:38:25,245
and such would coming off

809
00:38:25,265 --> 00:38:28,605
of the state highway would be presumably coming at a much

810
00:38:28,605 --> 00:38:32,285
higher rate of speed than, for example, vehicles coming

811
00:38:33,555 --> 00:38:35,925
off of Route eight, making that turn

812
00:38:36,555 --> 00:38:39,325
onto the road from that light.

813
00:38:39,325 --> 00:38:41,605
They have very little time to bring up speed.

814
00:38:41,785 --> 00:38:46,445
So I think if I were driving the truck leaving

815
00:38:46,515 --> 00:38:51,045
that site, I would likely opt to wait for a clear movement

816
00:38:51,045 --> 00:38:52,925
to make a left turn out of the site.

817
00:38:53,825 --> 00:38:57,205
To your point, it may take a little while depending on the

818
00:38:57,325 --> 00:38:58,645
queuing of vehicles and such,

819
00:38:59,305 --> 00:39:02,125
but I think it is very situational.

820
00:39:02,265 --> 00:39:06,325
And in this particular instance, the proposal as it is,

821
00:39:06,325 --> 00:39:07,725
which does not have signage

822
00:39:07,785 --> 00:39:10,485
or restrictions on how those

823
00:39:11,005 --> 00:39:14,405
vehicles which are delivering materials to

824
00:39:14,405 --> 00:39:17,485
or from the site would utilize their discretion.

825
00:39:18,145 --> 00:39:20,805
It would probably very be a very challenging thing

826
00:39:20,805 --> 00:39:24,165
to implement, unlike a mine for example, where

827
00:39:24,675 --> 00:39:25,885
that is the business

828
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:28,365
and the drivers are very much trained to adhere

829
00:39:28,385 --> 00:39:31,645
to a haul route when you have a manufacturing facility

830
00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:34,845
and a occasional deliveries which may be coming in

831
00:39:34,845 --> 00:39:37,365
and out, different, different drivers

832
00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:41,245
and every, it would be very, very difficult if not,

833
00:39:41,825 --> 00:39:44,245
you know, really logistically impossible to

834
00:39:44,795 --> 00:39:46,365
enforce a haul route

835
00:39:46,425 --> 00:39:49,445
and could enter some confusion into that

836
00:39:49,545 --> 00:39:50,965
for the drivers who are doing it.

837
00:39:50,965 --> 00:39:52,765
So you're, you're very good to ask the question.

838
00:39:53,005 --> 00:39:55,925
I think there are valid questions in the terms

839
00:39:55,945 --> 00:39:58,045
of the motorist that's going to be pulling out,

840
00:39:58,585 --> 00:40:02,245
but I would agree that it's best to be left to the driver

841
00:40:02,505 --> 00:40:03,645
for that particular delivery.

842
00:40:03,785 --> 00:40:05,685
And so Mr. Edgar, thank you, appreciate that greatly.

843
00:40:05,685 --> 00:40:09,925
Good points all, would you, just to clarify your comments,

844
00:40:10,225 --> 00:40:14,405
you would not be in favor of a sign suggesting that in,

845
00:40:14,425 --> 00:40:16,765
in the application package, quote, attention all trucks,

846
00:40:16,825 --> 00:40:18,525
no left turns unless there's enough space

847
00:40:18,525 --> 00:40:19,885
to clear the eastbound drive lane.

848
00:40:19,885 --> 00:40:21,765
That seems as Mr.

849
00:40:21,765 --> 00:40:26,005
Till Commissioner Tillman stated silly to enforce

850
00:40:26,705 --> 00:40:29,045
and, and a and a professional trucker should know that,

851
00:40:29,435 --> 00:40:32,285
that they shouldn't turn if, if it's not safe, right?

852
00:40:32,325 --> 00:40:35,365
I mean what was that a, whose recommendation was that?

853
00:40:35,365 --> 00:40:37,845
The, a recommendation of the traffic expert

854
00:40:37,945 --> 00:40:39,845
for safety purposes or that

855
00:40:39,845 --> 00:40:40,965
That was our internal clarity.

856
00:40:41,115 --> 00:40:43,925
Just notify all truck drivers if we supposed

857
00:40:43,925 --> 00:40:45,605
to sign on our gate, on the gate

858
00:40:45,605 --> 00:40:46,685
of the site as they're leaving.

859
00:40:46,795 --> 00:40:48,205
Okay. This wouldn't be an an out

860
00:40:48,865 --> 00:40:49,865
On the road.

861
00:40:49,865 --> 00:40:51,245
See it's not a legal enforceable traffic

862
00:40:51,275 --> 00:40:52,405
sign, it's just a Correct.

863
00:40:52,505 --> 00:40:53,645
Hey guys, you're gals,

864
00:40:53,645 --> 00:40:56,045
you're coming into a congested area, right? Be

865
00:40:56,045 --> 00:40:57,245
Mindful practices. Yes. Okay.

866
00:40:58,135 --> 00:41:00,505
That work for you? Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Thank you Mr. Greg.

867
00:41:00,505 --> 00:41:01,825
Appreciate it. You're very welcome. Thank you.

868
00:41:03,545 --> 00:41:07,505
I would like to note that art's been among us for a while

869
00:41:09,365 --> 00:41:11,825
And if he doesn't connect he may do his vote

870
00:41:11,825 --> 00:41:13,105
through me, if that's okay.

871
00:41:13,255 --> 00:41:15,105
Okay, sure. Been emailing back

872
00:41:15,105 --> 00:41:16,705
and forth as long as you're okay, Lindsay.

873
00:41:16,815 --> 00:41:18,665
Yeah, as long as you announce it. Okay. Yep.

874
00:41:20,535 --> 00:41:22,985
Okay. Any other questions?

875
00:41:25,275 --> 00:41:28,825
Other comment? Sure.

876
00:41:34,765 --> 00:41:36,725
I arrived a little late and wasn't able to sign up.

877
00:41:37,065 --> 00:41:40,765
If I can, can I submit this for all of the commissioners,

878
00:41:43,445 --> 00:41:46,325
commissioners, Jay Aleg, queen Ann Conservation Association.

879
00:41:46,385 --> 00:41:47,605
I'm not here to oppose this project,

880
00:41:48,165 --> 00:41:50,805
but I did wanna raise just a couple of things for you all

881
00:41:51,045 --> 00:41:53,965
to consider and also hope to make an appeal

882
00:41:53,965 --> 00:41:55,085
to the applicant himself

883
00:41:55,085 --> 00:41:56,845
because there might be a couple of things here

884
00:41:56,845 --> 00:41:59,925
that could both be a soft cost savings

885
00:42:00,985 --> 00:42:03,805
and also beneficial for the environment.

886
00:42:03,985 --> 00:42:08,085
So I did, I reviewed their storm water management plan

887
00:42:10,135 --> 00:42:11,865
when it comes to the Chesapeake Bay

888
00:42:11,885 --> 00:42:13,545
and Maryland's rivers and creeks.

889
00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:16,185
We're making a lot of progress in a lot of areas,

890
00:42:16,325 --> 00:42:20,425
but the one area where we continue to fail is storm water.

891
00:42:21,165 --> 00:42:25,105
And the applicant is doing what's required right now,

892
00:42:25,325 --> 00:42:28,185
but there might be a better way to do this

893
00:42:28,485 --> 00:42:31,345
and this would be with a pervious surface

894
00:42:32,765 --> 00:42:34,025
within the parking lot.

895
00:42:34,565 --> 00:42:36,185
And the document that I've just

896
00:42:36,425 --> 00:42:39,545
provided to you was generated off an AI search.

897
00:42:40,935 --> 00:42:43,745
What it shows that a pervious parking lot can actually be

898
00:42:43,745 --> 00:42:46,865
cheaper than some of the storm water management plans

899
00:42:46,865 --> 00:42:48,265
that we currently have in place.

900
00:42:49,325 --> 00:42:51,585
And so one of the things that I would really like to appeal

901
00:42:51,605 --> 00:42:55,465
to the applicant for is to consider that and look into it

902
00:42:55,465 --> 00:42:56,985
because it may be a cost savings

903
00:42:57,645 --> 00:42:59,505
and it would certainly be more

904
00:42:59,505 --> 00:43:00,785
beneficial to the environment.

905
00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:03,745
The other two things that I just wanna mention also,

906
00:43:04,715 --> 00:43:08,185
which again appeal an appeal to the applicant when it comes

907
00:43:08,205 --> 00:43:10,545
to the landscaping of the property.

908
00:43:11,245 --> 00:43:13,825
If you all could make a specific note

909
00:43:13,845 --> 00:43:17,305
of planting only native species trees and shrubbery.

910
00:43:19,025 --> 00:43:21,185
Planting native is important for a lot of reasons,

911
00:43:21,365 --> 00:43:24,385
but especially in the trees.

912
00:43:25,765 --> 00:43:30,465
An oak tree, for example, harbors up to 400 different

913
00:43:31,185 --> 00:43:34,225
organisms locally and that can be beneficial

914
00:43:34,245 --> 00:43:35,545
to the, to our environment.

915
00:43:35,805 --> 00:43:39,425
And then very last on your lighting fixtures

916
00:43:39,865 --> 00:43:43,465
for your buildings, there's a website called the dark sky

917
00:43:44,015 --> 00:43:45,745
Dark Sky effort

918
00:43:46,405 --> 00:43:49,705
and it's meant to reduce light pollution

919
00:43:50,605 --> 00:43:51,785
in this area of Ken Island.

920
00:43:51,785 --> 00:43:52,985
Light pollution is a problem.

921
00:43:53,505 --> 00:43:56,705
There are fixtures online that are dark sky compliant,

922
00:43:57,435 --> 00:44:00,745
which still provide businesses with the necessary light,

923
00:44:00,745 --> 00:44:02,385
but they angle it downward

924
00:44:02,925 --> 00:44:04,585
and it's not like the big floodlights

925
00:44:04,585 --> 00:44:05,785
that you see all over the place.

926
00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:08,265
So three environmental things that

927
00:44:08,785 --> 00:44:10,665
I hope the app applicant will consider

928
00:44:11,165 --> 00:44:13,145
and it could be something that we could all celebrate.

929
00:44:13,685 --> 00:44:16,105
I'd love to see more businesses do these types of things

930
00:44:16,645 --> 00:44:18,825
and it's a bragging, it's a bragging right

931
00:44:18,825 --> 00:44:20,625
for Queen Anne's County and for the business.

932
00:44:20,765 --> 00:44:22,425
And a lot of times many

933
00:44:22,425 --> 00:44:24,825
of these things are less costly than some

934
00:44:24,825 --> 00:44:25,905
of the other things that are out there.

935
00:44:26,125 --> 00:44:28,185
So thank you for your time. Thank you.

936
00:44:29,775 --> 00:44:30,795
Any other public comment?

937
00:44:34,375 --> 00:44:39,105
Don't have it. Nothing. One line. Okay. Can I get a

938
00:44:39,535 --> 00:44:41,305
Just one follow up on that Madam chair?

939
00:44:41,305 --> 00:44:42,545
If I may, based on Mr.

940
00:44:42,745 --> 00:44:44,785
F Said's comment, I'm looking over at staff.

941
00:44:44,965 --> 00:44:47,745
Is this, are the landscaping plans not required

942
00:44:47,805 --> 00:44:49,265
or at least in large part to be

943
00:44:49,825 --> 00:44:50,905
required to be native plants?

944
00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:53,145
I think the majority of these are native on site, right?

945
00:44:53,305 --> 00:44:55,025
Their landscape architect is here.

946
00:44:55,415 --> 00:44:56,985
Nate Ter Nate, he may be able

947
00:44:56,985 --> 00:44:59,585
to answer your question about he on site.

948
00:44:59,585 --> 00:45:02,465
No, from my review of the list, they appear largely native,

949
00:45:02,605 --> 00:45:03,825
but I, I'm looking to you guys

950
00:45:03,825 --> 00:45:06,185
that I think there's actually language in our code

951
00:45:06,185 --> 00:45:07,945
that requires, we remember going

952
00:45:08,105 --> 00:45:09,265
through this with previous directors.

953
00:45:09,455 --> 00:45:12,025
Some, but not all. It's when readily available,

954
00:45:12,215 --> 00:45:15,865
some loop in there that allows people to substitute if

955
00:45:16,405 --> 00:45:17,665
we can't get stock or something.

956
00:45:17,725 --> 00:45:20,705
But that's the intent is to be, if not all,

957
00:45:20,705 --> 00:45:24,345
largely in part native plantings. Yes, correct.

958
00:45:25,145 --> 00:45:26,865
I did have someone that wanted to make common alive.

959
00:45:27,495 --> 00:45:32,245
Okay. Hello?

960
00:45:54,475 --> 00:45:56,395
I am allowing her to make comment, but no one

961
00:45:57,475 --> 00:45:57,825
Hello?

962
00:46:02,175 --> 00:46:02,915
Did they hang up?

963
00:46:03,495 --> 00:46:04,355
No, they're still there.

964
00:46:08,155 --> 00:46:08,535
Let me,

965
00:46:18,575 --> 00:46:21,355
Hi Lauren, if you're there, you're, you can unmute now.

966
00:46:21,435 --> 00:46:24,355
I made you a, gave you the ability to at least

967
00:46:29,225 --> 00:46:29,515
Just

968
00:46:33,495 --> 00:46:34,555
Lauren, are you there?

969
00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:44,755
I don't know.

970
00:46:45,485 --> 00:46:50,325
Muted. She's saying it won't

971
00:46:50,345 --> 00:46:51,685
let her on mute, but

972
00:46:52,915 --> 00:46:53,915
Didn she Type her

973
00:46:53,915 --> 00:46:54,845
Comment.

974
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:56,405
Yeah. Lauren, if you can type your comment.

975
00:46:56,525 --> 00:46:58,165
I could read it for you. I'm not sure why it's

976
00:46:58,165 --> 00:46:59,365
not letting you unmute.

977
00:47:47,755 --> 00:47:49,765
Need some Elevator music. It's not allowing Yeah.

978
00:47:50,515 --> 00:47:50,805
Tell

979
00:48:05,715 --> 00:48:09,005
this is your only sole facility, correct?

980
00:48:10,525 --> 00:48:11,655
This one that we're, yes. Yeah,

981
00:48:11,685 --> 00:48:13,815
it's Yep. No other locations

982
00:48:14,505 --> 00:48:15,535
Fully Relocating

983
00:48:15,535 --> 00:48:16,535
From.

984
00:48:16,535 --> 00:48:17,215
And you, how long you been in the business park?

985
00:48:18,325 --> 00:48:21,025
Oh, six six as tech years since 17?

986
00:48:21,985 --> 00:48:25,115
Yeah. Are you bringing more jobs with this building?

987
00:48:25,115 --> 00:48:26,715
Maybe split. How many do you have

988
00:48:26,815 --> 00:48:28,075
now and how many are you bringing?

989
00:48:28,865 --> 00:48:29,955
It's, well, I mean maybe I'll just

990
00:48:29,955 --> 00:48:32,435
Let, It depends on contracts, basically. But's.

991
00:48:33,055 --> 00:48:34,035
Try that one. We don't Have to be

992
00:48:34,035 --> 00:48:35,235
exact. It's not pass out.

993
00:48:35,235 --> 00:48:36,715
Yeah. I mean it'll allow Us to get, all right.

994
00:48:36,715 --> 00:48:37,755
Lauren, could you try unmuting

995
00:48:37,755 --> 00:48:39,515
for us one more time? If you can hear me?

996
00:48:40,235 --> 00:48:41,595
A fuller one shift of of

997
00:48:41,835 --> 00:48:42,835
Employees.

998
00:48:42,835 --> 00:48:44,115
Okay, but how many do, would you, do you,

999
00:48:44,695 --> 00:48:45,715
if you don't wanna say how many

1000
00:48:45,875 --> 00:48:47,075
employees you have, that's fine, I guess.

1001
00:48:47,295 --> 00:48:50,635
No, we're pr it's on site on a given day

1002
00:48:50,635 --> 00:48:51,675
is probably around 40.

1003
00:48:53,005 --> 00:48:55,545
But you have people offsite too. The businesses supporting

1004
00:48:55,885 --> 00:48:56,885
The salespeople.

1005
00:48:56,885 --> 00:48:59,905
The, the vi my mic's going through. Yeah,

1006
00:48:59,925 --> 00:49:02,065
But maybe she's not Hearing it on.

1007
00:49:02,285 --> 00:49:04,785
Oh, it, it is possible if she had it muted on her end.

1008
00:49:05,045 --> 00:49:08,405
I'm not, I'm not getting any text response.

1009
00:49:08,465 --> 00:49:11,565
And I've made the meeting available so anyone could unmute

1010
00:49:11,665 --> 00:49:13,085
and no one's unmuting. So

1011
00:49:13,705 --> 00:49:15,525
Mr. Lee, in res response

1012
00:49:15,525 --> 00:49:16,885
to your question about landscaping.

1013
00:49:16,905 --> 00:49:20,845
Yes. Onsite encourages the use of native species,

1014
00:49:21,145 --> 00:49:24,125
the encourages the use for the on onsite landscaping guests.

1015
00:49:26,475 --> 00:49:28,285
Okay. She did send in a message. Thank you. Yep.

1016
00:49:28,825 --> 00:49:30,965
Our messages, this is from Lauren

1017
00:49:31,215 --> 00:49:33,365
Smuts, she said, sorry about that.

1018
00:49:33,485 --> 00:49:36,525
I would like to know what the applicant is doing to adhere

1019
00:49:36,525 --> 00:49:39,605
to the design standards in the uc zone guide,

1020
00:49:39,815 --> 00:49:41,805
especially in regard to compatibility

1021
00:49:41,805 --> 00:49:44,365
with surrounding development such as residential.

1022
00:49:44,915 --> 00:49:46,685
Apologies that it won't. Let me unmute.

1023
00:49:49,825 --> 00:49:53,805
So we've, we've submitted the UCTC design guideline notes

1024
00:49:53,905 --> 00:49:56,805
and memo along with the package, you know,

1025
00:49:56,805 --> 00:49:59,965
through the concept plan review the colored elevations

1026
00:49:59,965 --> 00:50:03,045
that are included and extensive with review with staff.

1027
00:50:03,865 --> 00:50:06,885
We were confident that we meet the standards within the

1028
00:50:07,145 --> 00:50:08,165
design guidelines.

1029
00:50:09,425 --> 00:50:12,845
It was a, a major topic of conversation during the PLA

1030
00:50:13,675 --> 00:50:14,965
concept plan phase.

1031
00:50:15,545 --> 00:50:19,765
And from that approval, we've had no substantial changes

1032
00:50:19,865 --> 00:50:21,325
to the design of the building

1033
00:50:21,785 --> 00:50:23,445
and the associated memo and code.

1034
00:50:24,515 --> 00:50:28,155
Okay. As you Have further comment,

1035
00:50:32,495 --> 00:50:34,475
She says, if they could please share some

1036
00:50:34,475 --> 00:50:36,715
of the elements integrated into that design

1037
00:50:37,405 --> 00:50:38,405
Piece.

1038
00:50:38,405 --> 00:50:38,785
More water.

1039
00:50:40,345 --> 00:50:42,535
Steve, if you want to pull up the colored

1040
00:50:42,535 --> 00:50:43,855
elevation or is that something Yeah.

1041
00:50:44,045 --> 00:50:45,335
Pull up with public comment.

1042
00:50:45,355 --> 00:50:48,175
Do we typically do a back and forth or is it more No.

1043
00:50:48,965 --> 00:50:52,695
Yeah, that's, if, if you guys would

1044
00:50:53,235 --> 00:50:54,615
prefer to ask, and I

1045
00:50:54,695 --> 00:50:56,495
I will go on record to say this does meet the

1046
00:50:56,575 --> 00:50:58,015
TCUC design standards.

1047
00:50:58,415 --> 00:51:01,735
We worked very hard with these, the applicant to, to get

1048
00:51:01,735 --> 00:51:03,495
to this design initially.

1049
00:51:03,495 --> 00:51:05,055
It, it needed some work

1050
00:51:05,115 --> 00:51:06,695
and they, they've come a long way with it.

1051
00:51:06,795 --> 00:51:08,335
So I just wanna put that out there.

1052
00:51:09,015 --> 00:51:11,975
There was a memo in your packets that explains all this.

1053
00:51:14,005 --> 00:51:17,415
Okay. Any other questions?

1054
00:51:19,755 --> 00:51:20,755
Any other comments?

1055
00:51:22,955 --> 00:51:24,775
I'm good. Can we get a

1056
00:51:24,975 --> 00:51:28,005
proposal recommendation?

1057
00:51:29,175 --> 00:51:32,845
Madam Chair? Having considered the testimony presented

1058
00:51:32,865 --> 00:51:35,445
and having reviewed the findings outlined in the staff

1059
00:51:35,445 --> 00:51:38,725
report, be it hereby resolve that the planning commission

1060
00:51:38,795 --> 00:51:42,365
regarding the request by a reliable development company, LLC

1061
00:51:43,145 --> 00:51:44,765
for major site plan approval

1062
00:51:44,905 --> 00:51:49,205
to construct a 40,040 square foot building for the design

1063
00:51:49,205 --> 00:51:52,045
and fabrication of specialty vehicles

1064
00:51:52,045 --> 00:51:56,605
between a 4.411 acre parcel in the urban commercial zoning

1065
00:51:56,965 --> 00:51:59,685
district, and is more particularly described in Department

1066
00:51:59,685 --> 00:52:00,885
of Planning and zoning file.

1067
00:52:01,225 --> 00:52:05,885
SP number 26 dash oh two dash oh 1 72

1068
00:52:06,585 --> 00:52:10,325
hereby finds the site plan does meet all requirements of

1069
00:52:11,235 --> 00:52:12,285
chapter 18.

1070
00:52:13,235 --> 00:52:16,405
Will not substantially increase traffic hazards

1071
00:52:16,405 --> 00:52:19,565
or safety concerns due to traffic generated, generated

1072
00:52:19,565 --> 00:52:20,645
by the proposed use.

1073
00:52:21,385 --> 00:52:23,645
The location or orientation of curb cuts

1074
00:52:23,645 --> 00:52:25,485
or the layout of internal circulation

1075
00:52:27,435 --> 00:52:29,925
does contain a layout of buildings, parking,

1076
00:52:30,135 --> 00:52:31,205
roads, and utilities.

1077
00:52:31,475 --> 00:52:34,005
That does not substantially increase fire, health

1078
00:52:34,065 --> 00:52:36,165
or other public safety standards.

1079
00:52:36,865 --> 00:52:38,805
Is a adequately buffered

1080
00:52:38,965 --> 00:52:41,485
and screened to minimize potential adverse impacts

1081
00:52:41,485 --> 00:52:42,565
to neighboring properties

1082
00:52:43,145 --> 00:52:44,445
and public rights of way

1083
00:52:45,115 --> 00:52:47,845
will not substantially increase stormwater drainage.

1084
00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:52,285
Drainage, or pollution will not have an unreasonably adverse

1085
00:52:52,285 --> 00:52:54,805
effect upon property values in the vicinity of the site,

1086
00:52:55,715 --> 00:52:58,525
will not adversely affect the public welfare

1087
00:52:58,785 --> 00:53:01,845
and will provide for public safety through compliance

1088
00:53:01,915 --> 00:53:04,845
with the state Fire code and with any applicable county

1089
00:53:04,905 --> 00:53:07,805
or municipal fire codes is compatible

1090
00:53:07,835 --> 00:53:10,125
with the general character of the surrounding neighborhood

1091
00:53:10,305 --> 00:53:12,885
and is consistent with the purpose, goals

1092
00:53:12,905 --> 00:53:15,645
and objectives of the 2022 comprehensive plan

1093
00:53:16,345 --> 00:53:20,045
and hereby grants minor site plan approval subject

1094
00:53:20,065 --> 00:53:21,325
to the following conditions.

1095
00:53:22,945 --> 00:53:24,165
All remaining edits and

1096
00:53:24,165 --> 00:53:26,085
or documents required by the Department

1097
00:53:26,085 --> 00:53:27,845
of Public Works planning and zoning

1098
00:53:27,945 --> 00:53:30,405
or any other reviewing agency be reviewed and approved.

1099
00:53:31,225 --> 00:53:33,365
All remaining comments, edits, and

1100
00:53:33,425 --> 00:53:35,645
or documents required by the Maryland Department

1101
00:53:35,645 --> 00:53:37,565
of Transportation State Highway

1102
00:53:37,565 --> 00:53:39,885
Administration must be addressed.

1103
00:53:40,345 --> 00:53:43,685
All required legal documents must be approved, signed

1104
00:53:43,705 --> 00:53:46,765
and recorded prior to obtaining final site plan signatures

1105
00:53:47,705 --> 00:53:50,165
All required bonds sureties review

1106
00:53:50,185 --> 00:53:53,245
and inspection fees must be submitted to the Department

1107
00:53:53,245 --> 00:53:54,925
of Public Works and the Department of Planning

1108
00:53:54,945 --> 00:53:56,045
and zoning is appropriate.

1109
00:53:56,745 --> 00:53:59,565
The conditions specified in the attached airport manager

1110
00:53:59,665 --> 00:54:02,125
review number three, email dated

1111
00:54:02,235 --> 00:54:04,885
June 18th, 2026 must be met.

1112
00:54:05,505 --> 00:54:06,605
And the architecture

1113
00:54:06,625 --> 00:54:10,325
and overall site design must substantially reflect the

1114
00:54:10,525 --> 00:54:11,605
documents provided.

1115
00:54:12,505 --> 00:54:14,125
Can I make one point of clarification?

1116
00:54:14,185 --> 00:54:16,885
The staff report notes minor site plan approval

1117
00:54:16,885 --> 00:54:18,125
instead of major site plan

1118
00:54:18,325 --> 00:54:18,765
Approval. I

1119
00:54:18,875 --> 00:54:19,875
Okay.

1120
00:54:19,875 --> 00:54:21,405
Apologize. I I read that.

1121
00:54:21,725 --> 00:54:23,565
I thought you in my mind I was okay.

1122
00:54:23,595 --> 00:54:25,285
Just making sure. Yes. Okay.

1123
00:54:25,305 --> 00:54:29,245
So may I amend my motion to, to make

1124
00:54:29,245 --> 00:54:31,365
that major site plan approval. Thank you, Lindsay.

1125
00:54:31,755 --> 00:54:34,525
It's supposed to be major. Yep. Apologize for that. Yep.

1126
00:54:35,645 --> 00:54:39,005
I Okay.

1127
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:43,165
All those in favor? There's a like a second

1128
00:54:43,165 --> 00:54:44,285
for public comment.

1129
00:54:44,465 --> 00:54:49,325
I'm sorry. Second. Second. All in favor? Opposed?

1130
00:54:50,705 --> 00:54:53,965
So did we get art's vote art?

1131
00:54:54,905 --> 00:54:56,565
He hasn't emailed me. Right.

1132
00:55:15,225 --> 00:55:18,245
And board member Eberts Berger votes in favor of the motion.

1133
00:55:18,835 --> 00:55:23,365
Okay, so moved. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

1134
00:55:23,855 --> 00:55:26,885
Thank you. Public comment

1135
00:55:30,975 --> 00:55:31,925
there being none.

1136
00:55:32,305 --> 00:55:36,245
Can I get my favorite resolution? Ajour?

1137
00:55:37,025 --> 00:55:39,925
Second. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye.