[0:02] Good, Seth. How are you? [0:04] I got it. How are you, sir? [0:07] I know. [5:25] » Good evening and welcome. We're so glad [5:27] to have such a big crowd to start off [5:29] the new year for the city of Radford. [5:31] This is our first meeting in the new [5:33] fiscal year and we're glad to have you [5:34] all join us this evening. So, welcome. [5:36] We always love to begin with our pledge [5:38] of allegiance. So, we'll ask Gary Harris [5:40] from the VFW to come forward. [5:46] » Present arms. [5:48] I pledge allegiance [5:49] >> allegiance to the flag of the United [5:51] States of America, [5:53] and to the republic for which it stands, [5:55] one nation under God, [5:57] indivisible, with liberty and justice [6:00] for all. [6:02] >> Thank you. [6:04] And we ask that you would join us in a [6:06] moment of silence that you can use for [6:08] silent reflection, prayer, or however [6:10] you plan to prepare for the meeting. [6:27] Thank you all very much. Uh Council, you [6:30] have the minutes from the June 8th [6:31] meeting. Are there any corrections or [6:34] changes you'd like to make? [6:37] Do we have a motion to approve as [6:38] submitted? We have a motion. Do we have [6:40] a second? [6:41] >> Second. [6:41] >> A motion and a second. Any discussion? [6:44] All in favor, please respond by saying [6:45] "Aye." [6:46] >> Aye. [6:47] >> Any opposed? [6:49] Okay. [6:52] Oh, we're doing it over there. Got you. [6:53] Okay. [6:55] Um [6:55] at this time, we'll open the floor for [6:57] citizen comments on public matters. [7:00] Uh we'd love for you to come down if you [7:01] have something you'd like to say or [7:02] question you'd like to ask. Come down to [7:04] the podium. Be sure to put the [7:06] microphone up close to your mouth so [7:08] that we can hear you. State your name [7:09] for the record, and limit your comments [7:11] to 3 minutes or less. The comment time [7:13] is on the screen. So, the floor is now [7:15] open for citizen comments. [7:27] » Hello. [7:28] My name is Bill Fleischer. [7:30] I'd like to recognize a group of people [7:32] that don't usually get uh praise. [7:36] And that's our police department. I [7:39] watched them on the 4th of July down in [7:41] that hot park wearing those black [7:44] uniforms and the vest with all that [7:46] equipment and I know they had to be [7:48] sweltering. [7:49] And then I saw how efficiently they [7:51] handled the crowd after [7:54] uh to get everybody out safely and [7:56] quickly and I I just I really [7:59] appreciated their professionalism and [8:00] their courtesy during that time. So, [8:03] just wanted to bring them together. [8:05] >> much. [8:06] >> [applause] [8:09] » Certainly agreed, absolutely. Um any [8:12] Does anyone else have any comments for [8:14] the public record? [8:16] Come on down to the podium. [8:32] » Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you, [8:34] Mayor and City Council. I am Amanda [8:36] Hudgens and I am the uh director of [8:40] research and innovation for the College [8:42] of Nursing at Radford University and I [8:44] just wanted to bring to your attention [8:46] one of the new business items is our [8:48] Radford University Cares mobile health [8:50] clinic, which is going to be uh [8:53] venturing out into the communities of [8:55] the New River Valley, Southwest [8:56] Virginia, and hopefully the city of [8:58] Radford. This is a faculty-led [9:01] student-run clinic that is going to be [9:03] offering free care to our citizens and [9:05] training our next generation of health [9:07] care providers. So, we have lots of [9:10] services to offer and a service line to [9:12] expand as we go along, so we would [9:14] really appreciate the city's support so [9:16] we can bring this to the community in [9:19] the places where people live, work, [9:22] play, and enjoy their community. [9:26] Thank you. [9:26] >> Thank you very much. [9:30] » [applause] [9:34] » Maybe we'll all get applause this [9:35] evening. That's a good thing. [9:37] Um is there anyone else who has a [9:39] comment for the public record? [9:43] Okay, seeing no one else, we will [9:45] go ahead and close that portion of the [9:48] meeting. [9:49] Um, and we do have some things to [9:51] address this evening. Uh, we've got a [9:53] couple presentations. First, we have a [9:55] representative here from Brown Edwards [9:57] to give us an update on our forensic [9:59] audit. We started this process a good uh [10:02] bit of time ago by first issuing the uh [10:05] invitation for bid. We had several bids. [10:08] Uh, Brown Edwards was selected and since [10:11] the spring has been working toward it. [10:12] So, welcome. Thank you for being here. [10:14] >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Again, I'm John [10:16] Aldridge with Brown Edwards & Company. [10:18] Um, what I want to do tonight is just [10:20] kind of give you all an update of where [10:21] we stand on the project. As you recall, [10:24] when we started this [10:27] uh working with you all, there were [10:28] approximately 28 different areas we were [10:31] going to look at throughout the city. [10:33] And those went back a couple years. So, [10:35] to date, we have finished seven of those [10:38] 28 tasks. So, for those seven, we've met [10:41] with staff, we've uh gone over some [10:43] preliminary findings, observations [10:45] there. Uh, so, we're going to continue [10:48] to fine-tune that before we issue that. [10:51] The other open um 21 items are in [10:54] process. We've requested information [10:56] from your staff. Uh, they're getting it [10:58] back to us um as they can because [11:01] honestly, they're trying to fit this in [11:03] between an audit, the budget, and [11:05] everything else they do. So, this is [11:06] just one extra task. Uh, but they've [11:09] done a good job. They've uh done a good [11:11] job getting us information. Uh, there [11:13] hasn't so far been any situations where [11:15] we've been stonewalled or anything like [11:17] that. Um, to date as well, I was [11:21] counting before I came, I think we have [11:23] right at 26 recommendations already of [11:26] things that you can can do better. You [11:28] know, again with looking with new staff [11:31] and some changes, this was the perfect [11:34] time for y'all to look at operations and [11:36] how to do things more efficiently. So [11:38] again, we've only finished seven and [11:40] I've already got 26 recommendations for [11:42] you. So, um [11:44] I feel pretty good, you know, going [11:46] forward this will be wrapped up fairly [11:48] timely. [11:49] However, a lot of this is on your all's [11:51] staff. So, I I could tell you if it was [11:53] all on me, here's when it would be [11:54] completed, but again, it's a lot of of [11:57] things they need to fit in, but uh you [11:59] know, some of the biggest areas we've [12:00] already completed would be related to [12:02] utility billings in that area. [12:05] Some of the big things left will be [12:06] personnel related, payroll, uh some [12:09] disbursements, and then the budget [12:11] process. Those are kind of the big [12:13] things on the horizon we need to wrap [12:14] up. But I'm sorry. [12:15] >> So, yeah, thank you so much for that. [12:17] You mentioned uh you had the seven that [12:19] are completed and at some point, will [12:21] you release those with some of the [12:23] recommendations sometime in the near [12:24] future before you complete all the rest [12:26] of the work? [12:27] >> We certainly could. [12:28] >> Okay. [12:28] >> Yeah, that's that that would be fine if [12:29] you would like it to to do it that way. [12:31] >> No, I think that would be helpful cuz I [12:32] know a lot of folks have wanted to know [12:34] is there something that has gone on or [12:36] is there something that should change [12:38] and something we can actually start [12:39] doing better now. Now, all those [12:40] recommendations, have those been [12:42] communicated to the staff, yeah? [12:44] >> Not all together yet, just a few here [12:46] and [12:46] >> be helpful, too, because then we can [12:47] begin to incorporate some of that in our [12:50] process and and go from there cuz I [12:52] think that's one of the more valuable [12:53] portions of this. Um of course, the [12:56] biggest component that we feel we wanted [12:59] to look at is the budget piece and and [13:01] that has not even been touched at this [13:03] point. [13:03] >> It's been started, but it's just very [13:05] preliminary right now. [13:06] >> Okay. So, it'll still be some time on [13:08] that is what you're telling us. [13:09] >> Very much so. [13:10] >> Okay. Thank you so much for that uh [13:11] wonderful presentation. I I know it's [13:13] not a lot of detailed information, but [13:15] it's where we are and and what we're [13:17] working on. Council, do you all have any [13:18] questions? [13:21] Okay. [13:22] >> All right. [13:23] >> Yeah, thank you so much and I I think it [13:25] would be good um for us to be able to do [13:27] a short release. So, if you will help us [13:29] with that when you do the seven that [13:31] you've covered and whatever the [13:33] recommendations are, we want to be [13:34] really transparent with that and share [13:36] that with folks. So, once staff gets it [13:38] can digest it then we'll figure out how [13:40] we want to share that with the public at [13:42] large. [13:42] >> All right, we'll plan on that. Hopefully [13:44] by the next When's your next meeting? [13:45] August? Yeah. Hopefully we'll get it [13:46] wrapped up by August and have it [13:48] >> fabulous. [13:48] >> Yeah. [13:49] >> Thank you so much. [13:50] >> Thank you. [13:50] very much. [13:53] All right, and we now have our school [13:55] superintendent and the school board, [13:56] they have a request for additional match [13:59] funds and and I'll just start very [14:01] briefly by saying [14:03] normally we would do this significantly [14:05] earlier in the year, but the way the [14:07] state's budgeting process worked, we [14:09] didn't really have a state budget until [14:11] right at the end of June. And so we're [14:14] revisiting some things that we would [14:16] have typically talked about during [14:17] budget season. And with that, Adam [14:19] Joyce, our superintendent, is here. Dr. [14:21] Joyce, welcome. [14:21] >> Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate the time. [14:23] Thank you, Council, for having us here [14:24] this afternoon. Um [14:27] I have a real short presentation and [14:29] you're right, [14:30] the budget sort of drifted through the [14:32] spring, but then once it became a bill, [14:35] we've been moving at at at lightning [14:37] speed. So, that's why I'm here tonight. [14:39] A lot of the budget [14:41] was you know, we we were treated fairly [14:43] I think by the state. It comes with some [14:46] contributions in the form of matching [14:48] funds. So, that's what I'm here to [14:50] present tonight. Now, I can click or you [14:52] just I'll just give you the click wink. [14:55] Okay. [14:56] The recently released state budget [14:57] includes adjusted funding for a number [14:59] of categories including special [15:00] education, class size reduction, [15:03] preschool initiative, compensation [15:05] supplements for staff, and our at-risk [15:07] students. [15:08] But as you know, in order to receive [15:10] those funds, locality must provide a [15:12] matching contribution. For Radford, our [15:14] LCI means that we're responsible for [15:16] slightly less than 16% [15:18] of the total amount. [15:21] Um in order to unlock these important [15:23] state resources, local required match [15:25] totals about $205,000. [15:28] Uh, that is all the categories combined. [15:30] And I think that might be all of it. [15:33] Huh. Um, so, I am open uh, for [15:37] discussion with you guys, questions, [15:38] comments, whatever it is I can help [15:40] with. [15:40] >> Well, thank you so much. Uh, there are a [15:42] lot of questions, and can we go back to [15:43] your slide about the uh, yeah, the the [15:46] now go we'll come back to that one in a [15:48] minute, but this one. So, just for [15:50] clarification on this, this is $205,209 [15:54] that the city would provide on top of [15:56] the approximately half a million dollars [15:58] that the city has already budgeted for [16:00] and is provided as the the local match [16:03] prior to June 30th. [16:04] >> This is on top of the local required [16:06] effort and local required matches that [16:08] you guys appropriated for us back in the [16:10] spring. [16:11] >> And once we have done this, and once we [16:13] go into this, this is the new local [16:15] match moving forward. So, it goes from [16:18] about half a million to 700,000 in [16:20] perpetuity. [16:21] >> There are some variables there like [16:23] enrollment, things that um, may change. [16:26] It won't change a lot, so you're you're [16:28] right. Um, [16:29] this would probably be the new amount [16:32] going forward, plus or minus. [16:34] Uh, Carrie, would you agree? So. [16:36] >> Sometimes the state [16:44] » Okay. [16:47] So, just to clarify what Carrie just [16:49] said, and thank you so much for that. [16:50] Sometimes the state changes the [16:52] allocations, which could affect the [16:54] local match. Um, this year you did have [16:57] some savings that you could carry [16:59] forward. Can you talk about that a [17:00] little bit? [17:01] >> a budget ago, we um, budgeted at the [17:04] school level some monies for folks who [17:06] aren't in VRS. [17:08] Uh, we were we were going to budget [17:10] money for them to have a retirement fund [17:13] individually, [17:15] um, so that it was, you know, it was a [17:16] of an incentive or retention or [17:18] recruiting tool. So, folks that aren't [17:20] in the VRS for whatever reason, we would [17:23] deduct some money from their payroll for [17:25] them to have some retirement funds. [17:28] We didn't get that completed this year [17:30] for a couple of reasons. I won't bore [17:31] you with those, but that money is still [17:33] there. So, what I asked [17:36] your folks to help us with was to take [17:38] that money, hold it for us, and let us [17:40] have it back this budget season so that [17:42] we could in earnest start that program. [17:45] That's about $70,000. [17:47] I think it would be fair for you as a [17:49] city to take the $70,000 [17:51] that you're holding for us so that we [17:53] can start those non-VRS retirement funds [17:56] and make that part of the 205, which [17:58] would which would be a new total of [18:00] 135209. [18:01] >> So, the 135209 would just be for the [18:03] first year, and then once we revisit [18:06] this for budget season next spring, the [18:09] total's 205209 plus, you know, ish, and [18:13] plus whatever that other rest of the [18:15] local matches, which is about half a [18:17] million. [18:17] >> That's a fair statement. [18:18] >> Okay. [18:19] Can we go to the slide that was before [18:21] this? [18:23] So, these are a lot of things, and I [18:24] know we talked about them a year ago [18:26] when we were working through with Mr. [18:28] Meadows when he helped us develop the [18:29] budget for fiscal year 2016 that just [18:32] ended about some of these areas. How [18:35] much of this is impacted? Like, would [18:39] the compensation, and I believe the [18:40] compensation is to go to 4% for raises [18:43] as opposed to the 2% that were budgeted [18:45] for? [18:45] >> The state has made funds available for a [18:47] 4% increase for SOQ positions. We are [18:51] now at a 2% increase, so that's an [18:53] increase of 2%. [18:55] >> Explain what the difference is from an [18:56] SOQ position versus someone else working [18:59] for the [19:00] >> of quality positions are what the state [19:02] believes is the minimum staffing you [19:04] should have in a school division to [19:05] deliver the education, [19:08] but the city of Radford and the school [19:09] division is always going above and [19:10] beyond the SOQs. [19:12] We're not asking for the city to fund [19:14] non-SOQ compensation increases. [19:17] Um [19:19] Carrie Long and I and the school board [19:21] have found ways to extend that 2% to [19:25] non-SOQ personnel. I can't imagine not [19:28] doing that. Um you know, someone that [19:30] you could work directly beside in your [19:32] classroom wouldn't get the raise while [19:34] you did get the raise. So, we've worked [19:36] really hard to come up with funds to um [19:39] make it 2% at at right now or four if [19:43] things go well for everyone. [19:45] >> Okay. [19:46] So, and I appreciate that. How much of [19:49] the match is the compensation component? [19:52] >> Oh, boy. [19:53] >> Is it I mean, 80% 20%? [19:56] >> It's [19:57] No, it's it's not as much as you might [19:59] think. [20:00] >> Well, that's what I wondered cuz we were [20:01] trying to figure out, you know, if for [20:04] example, the city could do 10,000 or [20:06] 50,000 or 100,000, what does that mean [20:09] we can have, what can't we have, you [20:12] know, how does that impact it? [20:13] >> Right. [20:14] >> So, um [20:16] The budget originally had the 2%. [20:18] >> Mhm. [20:19] >> I'm not going to be able to hear you, [20:20] dude. [20:21] >> Okay. [20:21] >> Uh sorry. [20:22] I'm going to [20:23] >> Yeah, it's probably better if you come [20:24] to the microphone. And I apologize. [20:25] These are all I think these are [20:26] important questions to ask though as we [20:28] have this discussion cuz we're so tight. [20:31] >> Carrie can join me at the podium, I feel [20:33] a lot better. [20:35] >> Um [20:36] Okay. So, what I'm looking at is the [20:38] calc tool which is available on the DOE [20:40] website which we've shared with not this [20:43] particular one, but we have shared one [20:44] with you all in the past. Um [20:47] So, under compensation, a supplement for [20:51] the 4% is 158,729. [20:55] So, approximately half of that is for [20:58] the additional 2%. [20:59] >> Okay. [21:00] >> So, out of the 205 you're saying that's [21:04] the the total for the 2% additional 2% [21:07] raise. So, it's about 50%. So, the [21:09] special ed add-on, the class size [21:11] reduction, the preschool initiative, and [21:13] the at-risk students is about the same [21:15] then as the raise. Is that accurate? [21:18] >> Um I didn't I have not looked at it in [21:20] that particular detail, so I would think [21:22] it probably isn't done that way. It's [21:25] probably got some other type of formula [21:26] that it's figured on. [21:28] >> Okay. [21:29] All right. Um just you know, these are [21:32] questions that I had when we first were [21:34] told, "Okay, hey this is something we [21:35] need to talk about." Cuz this literally [21:37] just happened 13 days ago. [21:38] >> Yes, sir. [21:39] >> [laughter] [21:40] >> There's not been a lot of time for [21:41] discussion on that. Council, what [21:42] questions do you all have? [21:45] >> I guess my one question would be with [21:46] the budget that was passed, all these [21:48] things were in place, right? So, the [21:50] these weren't at risk of going away. [21:53] >> No, sir. [21:53] >> Okay. So, so with this supplemental [21:56] money, what exactly is that [21:58] other than the salaries? [21:59] >> All these funds would be increased. Um [22:02] special education add-on would bring us [22:04] closer to [22:05] um you know, [22:07] it's a federal special education is [22:09] federal. We want to make sure that we're [22:10] exceeding any kind of federal standards [22:12] or state standards. We want to be above [22:14] and beyond that as far as caseloads and things of that nature. Class size [22:18] reduction, we always you know, that that [22:20] just means smaller classes, which means [22:22] a better ratio for your teacher to [22:23] students. We always kind of want to be [22:25] out front on that. Um preschool [22:27] initiative gives us more funding to [22:29] accept more kids to the program, maybe [22:31] have more aids, more materials in the [22:32] program. [22:34] Um compensation we've talked about and [22:35] our at-risk students, which are kids [22:37] that are um identified based on income, [22:40] things of that nature. We are able to [22:42] support them better with with counselors [22:44] or or tutoring or more material, things [22:47] like that. [22:48] >> And I know you guys have done a really [22:49] good job of being able to find that 2% [22:52] for the other positions. Would you be [22:54] able to if we if the city was not able [22:56] to do this, would you be able to Would [22:58] you have the funds available to to able [23:00] to pick up this initiative? [23:01] >> I couldn't say right now it would be a [23:03] 4% now. [23:04] >> Right. [23:05] So, [23:05] » [clears throat] [23:06] >> just [23:07] walk me through the math here. So, we [23:09] were looking at the next slide, you're [23:11] asking a total of 208 [23:15] 205. [23:16] >> And then you're saying the increase the [23:19] 4% increase, that is how much of that? [23:23] >> Uh [23:26] about 80,000. [23:27] >> About 80, okay. [23:30] So, I guess where I always said is when [23:33] you were talking about when you're in a [23:34] classroom and you have one person that [23:36] gets a raise and then the person working [23:38] beside them, they don't get the raise. I [23:40] kind of feel like that's where our city [23:42] employees are. They're sitting next to [23:44] the schools who consistently get raises [23:46] and they've had to hold back from [23:48] raises. And so, um everyone is worth a [23:52] raise, but under restrictive financial [23:55] environments, we have to make choices. [23:57] So, um [24:00] it's a hard sell when when you guys came [24:02] to us before, all these things were [24:04] covered pretty much to your satisfaction [24:07] and now you want additional funds. Um [24:11] >> And the only reason before that is [24:12] because, you know, all of our neighbors [24:15] have the same capital and are and are [24:17] looking at the same raise potential. [24:20] I just don't want to be the person that [24:22] lets Radford slip behind because [24:25] I mean, you know, I I get the variables [24:26] here. I get why. [24:28] But it's it's hard for me to recruit [24:30] teachers from other neighboring counties [24:33] when their compensation may already be [24:34] better than ours and they're not going [24:36] to get the same raise. [24:38] That's why. And you And I know you [24:39] understand that. It's the same for your [24:40] folks. [24:41] >> Right. I was like, yeah, we it's it's [24:43] the same for our police officers and our [24:45] fire firemen and EMS workers. We're dealing with the exact same thing [24:49] on this side uh as well. [24:51] >> Right. [24:52] >> So, if we gave you your 70,000 back that [24:56] you've requested, what could you cover? [24:58] some of this with that [25:00] 70,000 or is it an all or nothing [25:02] initiative? [25:03] >> No, it's not an all or nothing, but it [25:05] would take us more time than tonight to [25:07] figure how we could disperse that [25:08] fairly. [25:10] >> And [25:12] if you choose not to participate in one [25:14] particular program, whatever it is, [25:17] you're going to lose the state revenue [25:20] from it. So, it is a little bit more [25:22] impactful for us than just the [25:25] difference, you know. [25:27] >> Right, because so many other things. [25:28] >> mean out of the 500 we've already done, [25:30] if we don't participate all the way to [25:33] the 200,000 level in a category, that [25:35] you lose all of that? [25:37] >> No, you the 500 or the number that [25:39] you're using is the local part. [25:41] >> Right. [25:42] >> And um [25:43] >> So, that would not go away. [25:45] >> No. [25:45] >> It would just stay where [25:46] >> So, what we've already, you know, let's [25:47] say the state hadn't done this addi- [25:49] additional 200. What we've already [25:51] budgeted will happen regardless. These [25:53] are just additional additional on top of [25:55] that. [25:55] >> Okay. [25:56] >> And see, I mean, I don't want to speak [25:58] out of turn, but this is the state's way [25:59] of of showing the pre- the K-12 world [26:03] some love. The problem is it comes with [26:05] matching contributions that may or may [26:07] not be considered in Richmond. Right? I [26:10] mean, it sounds great that they're [26:12] giving more funding to the schools, but [26:13] what it does it burdens you and I and [26:15] the city and the school division to come [26:17] up with the matching funds. [26:18] >> Can you ask them if they'll show the [26:19] locality some love? We need some of that [26:21] love. [26:22] >> They show us a tax increase is what they [26:24] show us. [26:25] >> So, I guess I go back to the reserves [26:27] with with your reserves because we're [26:29] trying to build our reserves as a city [26:31] because we for for you to be healthy, we [26:33] have to be healthy. So, we're trying to [26:35] build our reserves. So, I guess I would [26:37] go back to I'm sure I would assume [26:40] before you came to us, you evaluated [26:42] your reserves to see if you could cover [26:44] this and if so, are you not able to? Are [26:46] you or is that a [26:48] >> We we we can't cover this ourselves, the [26:51] 205, no, ma'am. [26:53] >> This has to be new money that the city [26:56] puts in the budget. [26:57] >> Right, because otherwise then we start [26:59] taking from other other, you know, pots, [27:02] so to speak, and then they're left [27:03] short. So, we I was talking about like [27:06] your reserve [27:06] >> So, your reserve account with us, you're [27:08] not allowed to take reserve money from [27:10] your account with us. [27:12] >> It has [clears throat] a most We really [27:13] want to be careful [27:14] >> dollars in it. [27:16] >> We want to be careful with our money as [27:18] well. So, this is a pot that is not [27:20] touching your cash. It's in reserves for [27:23] things like this that come up that may [27:25] be burdensome on the city that are also [27:27] burdensome on you. So, this is kind of a [27:29] in-between pot that we can pull from. I [27:31] mean, I I would support sounds like that [27:34] may be a suggestion. I would absolutely [27:36] support that. I want to support the [27:39] schools and give them all the raises, [27:41] but I have to also think about other [27:42] departments that we have. You know, the [27:44] school is one very important huge piece [27:47] with the city, but we also have other [27:49] pieces that we have to think about, too. [27:51] And I think this reserve account may be [27:52] an option to [27:54] help both ends and not burden either of [27:57] us as much as as we, you know, would [27:59] want to and still make this happen. [28:01] >> It's kind of the I think it's to your [28:02] point, Kelly. It's kind of the same [28:04] concept we came up with last year for [28:07] fiscal year 26 where the half a million [28:10] was found out of the reserve funds that you all would donate that back to [28:14] help the budget and that the city would [28:16] go on and make its local match of the [28:18] half a million. So, I think that's the [28:20] concept. And I know everybody's kind of [28:22] on the spot tonight. The the one big [28:24] issue is we don't have to make a [28:26] decision tonight to get the funds, [28:29] correct? [28:30] Okay. So, this is something we could [28:32] work on and come back with a Okay, [28:34] here's a proposal to see these are some [28:36] options that are available to us. [28:39] >> And in the meantime, Todd, I mean, what [28:40] would that look like from our budgeting [28:42] standpoint? I know, you know, we did a [28:43] 2% real estate increase. [28:46] You know, if we do this, that would [28:48] negate you know, over a cent or so. How [28:51] would that affect us? Would we just have [28:52] to continue to increase taxes? I mean, [28:55] how how could we substantially fund [28:57] this? [28:58] >> So, the 205 represents approximately 2 [29:00] cent on the real estate, and that's what [29:02] we went up this year. So, it would [29:04] essentially use up that [29:06] or the equivalent of 2 cent on the real [29:08] estate. If the $70,000 is used to fund [29:13] the retirement accounts for the non-VRS [29:16] eligible employees, [29:17] you're looking at [29:19] about a a little bit over a cent, like a cent and a quarter of a cent on the [29:23] real estate. [29:24] As far as what it looks logistically in [29:26] our budget, the general fund cannot [29:28] support $200,000. It can't support 138. [29:33] What it would look like, the city would [29:34] have to transfer money from one of the [29:36] enterprise funds, water or electric or [29:39] solid waste, one of those, most likely [29:41] water or electric, into the general to [29:43] fund this, to then turn over to the to [29:46] the schools for the local match. So, you [29:49] know, the only thing I will advise [29:51] council, just keep in mind, you know, [29:53] those transfers, we're trying to get [29:55] away from those, and the funds that we [29:58] do transfer out of the enterprise funds [30:00] are it's reducing the amount that we [30:02] have available to tackle infrastructure [30:03] needs. And and that's the ultimate [30:05] long-term danger of continuing to [30:07] transfer those funds out is that we're [30:09] not addressing infrastructure, like [30:11] water tanks, water lines, sewer lines, [30:14] electric pole replacements, [30:16] etc. [30:17] >> Or existing debt that we're trying to [30:19] whittle down and and get our interest [30:21] payments down and eliminate. [30:23] >> That's correct, existing debt as well. [30:24] >> I I've still [30:27] got a question in my mind. Out of the [30:29] 205, [30:31] you said there's these different [30:33] categories. So, can we, I guess, if one [30:36] category is a $50,000, and one's [30:39] 100,000, and one's 150, then we're on [30:44] the hook for [30:45] 16% of that? [30:48] >> It's that It's [30:50] >> The match our [30:50] >> makes a whole. So, it's the um 16% plus [30:55] the uh 84% to make 100%. [30:59] >> Right. So, [31:00] but if it's 50,000 for one thing, and we [31:03] say we can't do our [31:04] >> Right. [31:05] >> 16% on that, that 50 goes away. [31:07] >> Well, that 50 That 50% that we're asking [31:10] you for is 16% of what the state would [31:12] do. [31:12] >> Okay, I'm talking about if 50,000's the [31:15] whole thing, [31:16] >> Oh, okay. [31:16] >> and our part is 16% of 50, and we say, [31:20] "No, we can't do that 16%." Then the [31:23] whole 50 goes away. [31:24] >> Right. [31:26] >> Can you give us or I would like to see a [31:28] breakdown of the categories [31:31] and what that category represents out of [31:34] that 205? [31:35] >> We We can, not tonight. [31:37] >> Right. [31:38] >> I know. [31:38] >> So, [31:39] you know, I'm thinking maybe what we do [31:41] is say, "Let's revisit this for our [31:42] August meeting and get some of that [31:45] information together and some of the [31:46] answers, um and talk about how what that [31:49] looks like if it's going to be, you [31:51] know, [31:52] we think we can do 30,000 out of water, [31:54] we think we can do this out of [31:55] sanitation, whatever that looks like, [31:56] and have something more concrete in [31:58] front of us to to look at and and see [32:01] what this looks like, cuz this is a a [32:03] big deal, and you know, I I actually [32:04] think it's a good thing we're having [32:05] this discussion. So, one of the biggest [32:07] things we've talked about as a locality [32:10] is how did we get exactly where we are [32:12] with some of the fiscal challenges we [32:14] have. This is a great example where the [32:16] state says, "Hey, we can do this [32:18] wonderful thing." And it's a wonderful [32:19] thing that I think everybody looks at [32:21] and says, "Yeah, that's amazing to be [32:23] able to do." But it's basically a, you [32:25] know, past this year, it's a 2-cent tax [32:28] increase or the equivalent budget [32:30] reduction to be sustainable. And and [32:33] that's the hard part for the city to get [32:34] to that sustainability. So, I think [32:37] coming back to this at the August [32:39] meeting makes a lot of sense to get all [32:41] the information we can [32:43] to talk about what each of these [32:44] categories represents out of the 205 [32:48] um so that we understand that and then [32:50] to talk a little bit about how, you [32:52] know, if we were able to do 135 this [32:54] coming year cuz we have the special [32:56] savings we could do, [32:57] what does it look like in out years [32:59] because again, even though we may not [33:01] have a crystal ball and know that, we're [33:02] pretty much saying this is baking that [33:04] in the cake and we move from a half a [33:07] million-ish dollar match to a $700,000 [33:10] match and and just understanding that. [33:12] >> it's a 2-year cycle, I think we're [33:14] pretty safe that it won't go too far. [33:16] >> more, yeah. [33:17] >> One more, yeah. [33:17] >> Right. [33:18] >> I'm I'm still a little uncomfortable [33:20] with that because I don't see a route to [33:23] make that happen. I I'm not comfortable [33:26] taking money out of these other [33:28] departments that we know have [33:29] infrastructural needs. Um [33:32] I I'm more inclined to say the 70,000, [33:36] of course, return back. That was money [33:38] you invested and then to see what you [33:40] can do with the reserves because that is why we have the reserves and I [33:44] just don't see a logical path that's [33:47] fiscally responsible to do it any other [33:48] way at this point. And we, you know, we [33:51] felt like we went in pretty knee-deep [33:52] and didn't push back on the budget as it [33:55] existed when you brought it to us and [33:57] that was hard. That's, you know, there [33:59] are other grants as you're going to hear [34:00] tonight that we would love to be able to [34:03] take advantage of that we can't that [34:05] would help the entire community as well. [34:07] So, [34:09] I'm I'm not sure for me if waiting is [34:11] going to matter because I just don't see [34:14] a responsible path [34:16] to provide more than that other than [34:19] allowing that 70,000 to return and [34:21] having the reserves, but that's just [34:23] where I currently sit, especially with [34:27] hearing from our city manager. [34:29] >> If I may, I wanted to make one more [34:31] point about the budgeted transfers to [34:33] our reserve accounts. Um we still have [34:36] two payments left, AEP, and while we've [34:39] made great progress this year, we do [34:41] still have those two payments out there. [34:43] It is possible we may have to use some [34:45] of those funds or close to all of those [34:47] funds to [34:48] uh pay that bill down. Um [34:50] I just didn't want to leave that out. [34:57] » So, [34:58] on top of all that, [34:59] >> Yeah. [35:00] >> um [35:01] I've never been this deep in a school [35:03] year without a budget. [35:04] >> Okay. [35:04] >> You know, and I don't think anyone has. [35:07] So, I'm not sure that I even have the [35:08] luxury to wait until August. [35:10] Because at the end of July, I need to [35:11] certify that we that we're operating on [35:13] a budget. That that doesn't even count [35:16] the the look that that we portray from [35:19] central office to our teachers that we [35:22] don't know what you're going to get. [35:24] >> Well, [35:24] >> Which is no one's fault, really. [35:26] >> No, but I will say this. We do have a [35:28] budget. It's just the budget [35:29] >> that was passed uh previously. We don't [35:32] have the additional match budget. So, I will say this, if I'm reading the tea [35:37] leaves correctly, August trying to [35:40] figure out a solution is probably the [35:42] best shot of getting anything. I mean, I [35:44] don't know if anybody's ready to say, [35:46] "We're going to do this tonight." with [35:48] what we don't know and and all of that. [35:50] So, [35:51] you know, that that's the hard part. I [35:53] mean, if if if council was comfortable [35:55] saying, "Let's take 70,000, that's the [35:58] carry forward, and then another 135,000, [36:02] that would be the equivalent of the [36:04] current capital reserves, and try to use [36:06] that." That could be a possibility. I [36:08] don't know if that's where everybody is. [36:10] It doesn't ultimately solve this problem [36:12] past this year, though. I will say that. [36:14] That's the really tricky part, and this [36:16] is what everybody needs to really focus [36:18] in on. [36:20] We have to build this as we're building [36:21] out the budget typically, because we [36:24] have to decide, do we do a tax increase [36:26] or a budget cut somewhere else to be [36:29] able to make that work? So, if we're [36:30] able to figure something out [36:32] accounting-wise with what we currently [36:34] have, and that's what's been offered as [36:36] a possibility, [36:38] maybe we could do something, but I don't [36:40] know. What do you all think, Council? [36:42] >> Well, I also think later in the meeting [36:43] we are looking at something that could [36:45] help address some of these later on with [36:46] the referendum that that could be used, [36:49] but I mean, I I've said it a hundred [36:51] times a hundred different ways. If [36:53] Radford City is not healthy, Radford [36:55] City Public Schools aren't healthy. No [36:57] one stands to lose more than Radford [36:59] City Public Schools if we lose our [37:01] charter. Um RCPS will not exist. We have [37:04] to get our finance house in order. You [37:06] could talk till you're blue in the face [37:07] about why we're here, whose fault it is, [37:09] should we be here? We're here. I mean, [37:11] that's what it is. It would be, in my [37:13] opinion, fiscally irresponsible for us [37:15] to do that with all the outstanding debt [37:17] that we have, with all the other things [37:19] that we have to to address. I hate that. [37:21] I I got two I've said this a hundred [37:23] times, too. I have two little Bobcats on [37:25] the way. You know, [37:28] Bobcats run through my veins, but I just [37:30] I feel like I know numbers, and I feel [37:33] like the position that we're in, it [37:34] wouldn't be good for us to take care of [37:36] you guys long-term. We have to get our [37:38] financial house in order. That's of no [37:40] That's not your fault, but it is your [37:41] problem because we're all in this [37:43] together. So, that's just kind of where [37:45] I'm at with it. And I know it's tough, [37:46] and I know that it's not about deserving [37:49] or anything like that. Those teachers [37:50] deserve more than 4%. Um so do our [37:53] sanitation workers and police officers [37:54] and everybody else. And um in the [37:56] meantime, I hope you'll work with us [37:58] till we can roll up our sleeves and get [38:00] things done, but I just think in the [38:03] to here and now, it wouldn't be a wise [38:04] decision for the city. [38:06] That's just me. [38:07] Huh? I mean, I I'd be happy to entertain [38:10] if if if or I'm always going to listen. [38:13] I mean, if you have something to [38:14] propose, I would listen. I don't know [38:16] that anything is going to change my [38:18] opinion that the city it I don't think [38:20] in August the city's going to be in a [38:21] better financial situation. Just I'm not [38:23] going to waste your time, but I would [38:25] respectfully listen to anything that you [38:27] would you would have to to share share. [38:30] >> Guy, where do you stand? [38:31] >> I'm I'm the same way. I don't see how in [38:33] the world we're going to be able to meet [38:35] that and that's why I was willing to [38:37] look at the breakdowns to see if there's [38:39] any part that we might be able to help [38:41] with, but [38:43] yeah, I'm I'm like Seth, you know, we've [38:45] just they're in such a a bind right now [38:47] that we cannot come up any with anything [38:50] like $200,000. [38:52] >> Jesse? [38:54] >> I'm I'm I think I've said my piece and [38:57] again to reiterate, it's not a matter of you [39:01] know, what we would like to do. I love our teachers. I love our [39:05] administrators. I love our school [39:07] systems. I have three Bobcats. So, um [39:11] you know, I I wish that we were in a [39:13] position to do more, but you know, we we [39:16] do have to make sure that that our house [39:19] is is stable and not built on cards. And [39:22] so right now we just have to make sure [39:23] that we're stable first to make sure [39:26] that you're stable also in the long run. [39:28] And again, I feel like, you know, with [39:31] the budget that you brought us, you had [39:33] good plans for these things and at that [39:35] point we felt like you could you could [39:37] manage these things. I understand this [39:39] would be on a greater scale and [39:41] certainly in a perfect world I would [39:43] support that, but I just think right now [39:46] it'd be fiscally irresponsible for us [39:49] to do anything other than what we're currently committed to do. [39:53] >> Kelly, do you have any other thoughts? [39:58] » So, [39:58] how how much in the reserves are there [40:01] dedicated funds? Are they Is that [40:05] broken down? [40:06] >> The capital reserve account? [40:08] >> The reserve account that that is shared [40:10] that that's there's a tract separately [40:11] than ours, but there's dedicated money [40:14] that is theirs, correct? [40:16] >> Uh approximately 1.9 million. [40:19] >> Okay, so that's 1.9 million of [40:22] our CPS reserves or that's shared [40:25] reserves for all of us, the city and the [40:29] school? [40:30] >> They're dedicated to the school capital [40:32] reserve fund. So, they're they're [40:35] Everything is in a pooled account, but [40:37] they're they're school funds. [40:39] >> So, why does using the res- that some of [40:43] that 1.9 affect our ability to pay bills [40:47] and things like that if it's dedicated [40:49] school capital fund? [40:51] >> So, uh, if they want to use school the [40:54] capital reserve account funds from [40:56] there, it will not affect the the city's [40:58] >> Okay, that's what I'm proposing is, you [41:01] know, that 1.9 million that's sitting [41:02] there as reserves or or roughly. [41:05] >> Right. [41:06] >> But, is that not allowed to be used in [41:08] this circumstance? [41:09] >> Well, it's my understanding that it is a [41:10] capital reserve fund which is if if if a [41:13] building needs a roof or a [41:15] >> Yeah, I understand capital. I mean, I'm [41:17] just saying is that is it like [41:20] >> Well, I couldn't [41:21] >> at all? I just want to make sure. [41:23] >> If [41:24] and and Trisha, if I'm incorrect on [41:26] this, if it's my opinion that if they [41:28] want to use the 205,000 from the capital [41:30] reserve account, that will present no [41:32] issues for the city well in any manner. [41:35] >> And I think it might work out something [41:37] kind of like this. If you all said, [41:38] "Yeah, we can do 205,000 out of the [41:40] capital reserve fund." It would then go [41:42] into one of our enterprise capital funds [41:45] and then we would provide that new money [41:46] as [41:46] » [cough] [41:46] >> the match. That it's not a [41:48] you know, direct take it out of the [41:50] deposit and put it over here, but it [41:52] would work out the same way essentially. [41:54] >> I mean, if if it you know, it seems like [41:57] everyone's leaning toward we can't do [41:59] this. This is an option that will [42:00] provide the money for you. I know it's [42:02] not what you want to use it for and it's [42:03] not technically capital, you know, [42:06] >> Right. [42:06] >> repairs or roof or anything, but but [42:08] that I mean, [42:09] >> This is the slippery This is the [42:11] slippery slope we were afraid of when we did the $500,000. [42:15] We just didn't want to make that a a [42:17] thing every year. [42:18] >> We don't want to make it a thing either. [42:19] We understand that and we understand [42:21] that, but I'm trying to make an option [42:23] to where you guys get your money [42:25] and not zero because that's what we're I [42:28] mean [42:29] >> I think the thing is [42:31] this is a lot for everybody. School [42:33] board hadn't had a chance to talk about [42:34] it this way and all that. Do you all [42:36] want to take this back and have a [42:37] discussion and then come back again like [42:39] I said, you do have a budget. It's just [42:41] not the budget with the match. Um our [42:44] August meeting we could have a little [42:45] more time if you want to do that. That [42:47] would let you say, "Okay, here's what we [42:48] feel comfortable doing. Let's see if we [42:50] go from there." [42:51] >> So we also have a a meeting. I don't [42:53] remember what it's for on the 22nd of [42:55] this month at 6:00. [42:57] Can we tack on a if we really have to [43:00] wait and make a decision? I I know what [43:02] I'm proposing. [43:04] >> And what one question about your [43:05] proposal is it if we did do that, it [43:09] would be predicated that we do it again [43:11] the following year, correct? Because [43:13] once you bake in that match not pulling [43:15] from the capital reserve, but that that [43:16] amount we would be on the hook for that. [43:19] >> Yeah. [43:20] >> We'd have to talk about it because again [43:22] the match you you can either do it or [43:24] not do it and that's what I'm saying. So [43:27] we could say we can match up 500,000 [43:30] which we're currently doing or we can [43:31] match up 705 or whatever that total is. [43:34] So I mean it is a little bit because you're not [43:37] going to want to say, "Okay, well those [43:39] raises are baked in the cake." And then [43:40] we got to back off, but it is a [43:43] discussion that can be held depending on [43:45] where the city's financial position is [43:46] at that point in time. [43:48] >> Well, I mean people don't get raises [43:50] every single year. So that's something [43:52] that is [43:53] >> once it's baked in that 4% is is [43:56] >> [snorts] [43:56] >> the salary. [43:57] >> For your baseline and [44:00] All I'm saying is that's an option. If [44:01] you guys need to go back and think about [44:03] it, I'm proposing that we have a a [44:06] meeting on the 22nd when we're already [44:08] going to be here at 6:00. All of us are [44:10] going to be here. That gets you before [44:11] your August. Gives you a little bit time [44:13] to think. Otherwise, [44:15] I I'm I mean [44:16] >> I think it's the only way to even have a [44:18] further conversation on it. So, would [44:20] that make sense to at least go back and [44:22] have a discussion and see where we are? [44:25] It's better than a hard no tonight. [44:27] >> It is. [44:28] >> And then we figure out is this something [44:30] we can do. [44:30] >> Melissa, is it even possible to do that [44:32] on this I don't remember what we're [44:33] doing on this day. I just know I have to [44:34] be here [44:36] >> It's already advertised that we're [44:37] having a special meeting on July 22nd, [44:39] so we're good to go ahead and add the [44:41] school board [44:42] meeting agenda item. [44:43] >> feasible for Does that give you Is that [44:46] Okay. [44:46] >> And you know, which would have been that date would have been fine, except [44:50] this was the meeting that was next. And [44:52] you know, once the budget was approved, [44:54] then the the [44:56] video we had nine or 10 days to come up [44:58] with a calc tool. So, really um Ms. [45:00] Long's been sleeping with this paperwork [45:02] for about the last week. And we didn't [45:04] mean to throw it on you. [45:05] >> No, I get it. And I think the hardest [45:07] part [45:08] >> done so you can get your house in order, [45:09] too. [45:10] >> The hardest part with this is I don't [45:12] think there's anything up there that [45:13] folks wouldn't like to be able to do in [45:15] some way, shape, or form. [45:16] It's just what's practical and what's [45:18] realistic for our community at this [45:21] moment, but also long-term. And and you [45:23] know, like I said, this is why this is a [45:24] good conversation because let's say the [45:27] decision's made to go, "Yeah, we'll do [45:28] it." That's why Radford struggles with [45:31] some of the things it has because we [45:32] bake that in and then you've got to [45:34] figure it out every year. And you know, [45:36] basically, that's a 2-cent tax increase [45:38] or the equivalent somewhere. So, these [45:40] are the hard decisions that we all have [45:42] to make. Let's plan to come back [45:43] together for a short presentation. If [45:46] you can get us information prior to the [45:49] meeting, that's helpful so that we're [45:51] not hearing it the first time when we're [45:52] here. I think that'll get us to a good [45:54] place. And I do think guys, correct, if [45:57] we can know like special education [45:59] represents X amount of this, class size [46:02] reduction represents that. So, we can [46:04] have that meaningful discussion [46:06] together. That would be helpful. [46:08] >> If I were to give you the match that the locality is responsible for and [46:11] then what it triggers? [46:12] >> Yeah, that's fine. That's perfectly [46:14] fine. And I I recognize that triggers a [46:17] significantly larger number. [46:19] But it's just what what are we able to [46:21] do? How do we figure this out? Yeah. [46:24] >> Cuz I think 205 is large for the city. I [46:26] understand that. [46:26] >> Yeah. Well, and like I said, you know, [46:29] this is a hard discussion. If we were [46:30] talking about this 3 months ago, we may [46:32] have said, "Well, we have to do a 4 cent [46:34] tax increase on the real estate tax if [46:36] we're going to do that." [46:37] >> Right. [46:37] >> And and that's a discussion to have, you [46:39] know, and it'll be a discussion that [46:41] council will have if we go down this [46:43] path [46:44] for the 27-28 budget next spring. [46:47] So, these are all things and that [46:49] doesn't even get us where we need to be [46:50] fully, you know, for a sustainable [46:52] budget for the city. So, [46:54] appreciate it. Let's do that. Let's plan [46:56] it for that on the 22nd. Thank you for [46:59] bringing this to us. Uh the good news is [47:02] you got a good budget to start with and [47:04] then there's a possibility for this if [47:06] we can figure something out and us to [47:09] work together. [47:10] >> Yeah, I I I do not at all want to feel [47:13] like I don't want you guys to feel like [47:14] we don't appreciate that budget. But [47:16] once this new budget was passed, you [47:18] know, we couldn't just sit on it. [47:19] >> Oh, it changes everything and and I [47:21] think that's the hard part with [47:22] Richmond. While we appreciate the extra [47:23] money, when it comes with that string [47:25] attached, that's a tax increase. The [47:28] folks in Richmond didn't have to [47:29] increase taxes to get to the budget that [47:31] they got to and they could have made [47:33] that decision differently. So, that's [47:35] where we go. [47:35] >> Thank you all. [47:36] >> Thank you. [47:39] >> I don't know. [47:40] >> All right, we we got to keep going here. [47:43] We got lots of business to talk about. [47:45] Um [47:47] Council, we have some unfinished [47:48] business. So, going back to 2018, one of [47:52] the first things we we did was we had [47:54] the Department of Housing and Community [47:55] Development come to Radford with the [47:58] Main Street uh program to talk about [48:01] what could be done to help improve our [48:03] business district in East Radford. And [48:06] through a number of years working with [48:08] the Regional Commission and working with [48:11] recommendations of citizens and and and [48:13] everybody, we came up with a concept [48:16] that was going to help improve a number [48:17] of things and we got some money for it [48:20] from the Appalachian Regional [48:22] Commission, about 700,000. But that was [48:24] another one that came with an [48:25] attachment. We had to contribute the [48:28] city's portion, which was going to be a [48:29] couple million dollars. [48:31] We did a few of the small elements of [48:33] the project, but we've got about 300 and [48:36] 350,000, something along that line, [48:39] approximately. About 300,000 toward the [48:41] match. [48:43] But right now we don't have 1.3 million [48:45] dollars to put toward this project. [48:48] And that's a challenge for us. So, we [48:51] have talked with the folks at the [48:53] Department of Housing and Community [48:54] Development, could we have a little more [48:56] time to see if we can get closer along. [48:59] They said they can't do that right now. [49:00] They have to see meaningful action. In [49:02] other words, we have to be under [49:03] contract for this project in the fall or [49:06] in the spring, something along that [49:08] line. And that's not feasible with the [49:09] budget we currently have and the [49:11] resources that we have. [49:13] These are needed things for us to do to [49:14] get our business district in better [49:16] shape. But at this time, we need to [49:18] transmit a letter to the Department of [49:21] Housing and Community Development [49:22] declining the Appalachian Regional [49:24] Commission grant at this time. The good [49:27] news is we can go back and try to get [49:29] this funding again and they've said this [49:30] is a great project, they recognize the [49:32] importance of it and that they might be [49:34] willing to fund it further down the [49:36] road. This is a tough blow because this [49:39] was supposed to help build up our [49:40] business district further, which would [49:42] help the economy and it's just a [49:44] positive cycle. But at this time, [49:46] Council, can we have a motion to approve [49:48] the city manager to transmit the the [49:50] to the Department of Housing and [49:51] Community Development regarding the [49:53] Appalachian Regional Commission grant. [49:55] >> So moved. [49:56] >> We have a motion. [49:56] >> We have a second. [49:58] >> Second. [49:58] >> Motion is second. All in favor, please [50:00] respond by saying I. I. Any opposed? [50:03] Okay. [50:05] All right, moving forward. Um Council, [50:07] we have some board and commission [50:09] appointments. The Agency on Aging, [50:11] Tourism, and the Board of Zoning [50:13] Appeals. Um [50:15] Melissa, do you have anything you want [50:16] to share with us based on the notes that [50:18] we have? [50:19] >> Sure. Um since our last meeting when you [50:22] appointed the [50:24] number um back in your June 8th meeting, [50:27] um I do have another vacancy on the [50:28] Board of Zoning Appeals. So, that was [50:29] not advertised appropriately um [50:32] because we have a new hire in our Code [50:34] Enforcement Office that he does not now [50:37] qualify as being on the BZA. There's a [50:39] conflict there. So, [50:41] um I did get a response from Sally. I'm [50:45] sorry. Sally-Ann regarding Agency on [50:48] Aging and she is willing to [50:51] continue to serve if Council so does [50:54] wish to do so. [50:56] What I've provided was [50:59] a historic I guess a historic uh [51:02] um breakdown of what the uh Tourism [51:05] Commission has been made up of. I did go [51:09] through our code to find out what the [51:12] parameters were. Like I said, the [51:14] lodging rate restaurant retail community [51:16] at large, those are just who held the [51:18] positions prior. Does not state in the [51:20] code that they have to fall within any [51:22] of those categories. Um [51:24] >> [clears throat] [51:24] >> but certainly their knowledge of the [51:27] community and their knowledge of the [51:28] business and how it might um help [51:30] support our Tourism Commission certainly [51:33] um is is a positive. [51:36] So, [51:37] a minimum of nine members have to be on [51:40] that board uh per code uh with a maximum [51:44] of 13. So, So certainly at um [51:47] Council's discretion on how they would [51:49] like to move forward. I did provide a [51:51] shown in uh shown interest list um on [51:54] the right-hand side of the column, but I [51:57] also provided a list of um citizens who [52:00] had showed interest in other boards and [52:02] commissions but had not been appointed [52:04] who we may want to fall back up on and to reach out to. [52:07] >> So with this we have and let's just talk [52:10] tourism for a second then we can go back [52:11] to BZA uh and agency on aging. Um [52:15] with this we have these positions that [52:17] are specific to these areas. Council [52:20] member, uh recreation rep, uh Radford [52:23] University rep, chamber rep, and the [52:25] school representative. But then the [52:27] others are all at large, correct? So [52:30] right now all of these together wouldn't [52:32] make nine total. So we need all of these [52:34] plus some additional uh at large folks [52:39] to be able to operate. [52:41] Correct? [52:41] >> So now including council members, [52:43] including the chamber, and the R- you [52:45] that that is nine. [52:46] >> Okay. [52:47] Uh but what I would say [52:49] >> 13. [52:50] >> Okay. What I would say, my concern is I [52:52] would want the chamber to make a [52:54] recommendation, the university to make a [52:55] recommendation, then of course council [52:57] we can decide who we want um and go from [53:00] there before we make that decision. So [53:02] if we appoint uh anyone else, the board [53:05] can't operate until they get to nine? [53:08] >> Correct. [53:08] >> And Kelsey, for her, I'm I'm sorry. [53:10] Kelly's already our [53:11] >> kicked off, David? [53:12] >> No. [53:13] >> Ha ha. [53:15] >> [laughter] [53:15] >> Well, and and I might be able to help a [53:17] little bit with the chamber rep because [53:19] Rachel Joyel has expressed interest and [53:21] she is on the chamber board. [53:25] >> Knock out those two. [53:26] >> Yeah, I was going to say what we would [53:27] want to do is maybe tentatively do that [53:29] uh pending the chamber just saying, [53:32] "Yeah, that makes sense for us." [53:34] Um [53:34] >> Sounds great. She will. [53:36] >> Yeah, she wants to. Absolutely. [53:38] >> And I I believe we talked about Tom [53:40] Bennett being a representative of the [53:41] university. [53:43] >> he was coming just as a citizen and has [53:46] not done anything formal. So, that could [53:48] be a question to be asked for the [53:50] university to say would they want to ask [53:54] Tom to serve in an official capacity or [53:56] would they want to appoint somebody else [53:58] and Tom, if he was interested, may be [54:00] able to serve as a [54:01] volunteer. [54:04] >> I can ask. [54:05] Um I can ask um [54:07] >> Angela [54:07] >> for the [54:08] >> Oh. [54:08] >> Yes, in my joint commission meeting [54:10] tomorrow, I can ask Angela for [54:12] recommendations on our RU [54:13] representative. [54:15] >> Perfect. [54:17] >> Um you'll you'll see that Amanda Winter [54:20] um she was uh [54:21] the school representative prior um [54:24] and happy to continue serving in that [54:26] manner. [54:26] >> Okay. [54:27] Kelsey, would [snorts] there be any [54:28] issue with you being Commissioner of [54:30] Revenue and serving on the tourism board [54:32] or is that acceptable? [54:34] Okay. [54:37] Tara's great, Alba's great, um Jessica [54:40] could could serve if you all are [54:42] interested. [54:43] Um [54:44] I'd like to see if we could get these [54:45] folks appointed, get a representative [54:47] for the RU rep, and then maybe come back [54:49] and revisit the rest of it in um [54:52] August to see what we have. Does that [54:55] make sense? [54:57] Okay, so do we want to go on and reins- [54:59] you know, make sure Kelly is our council [55:01] representative. [55:02] Um and then we have nominations here [55:06] potentially for Kelsey Marleta, Jessica [55:09] Johnson. Um let's hold off on Tom until [55:12] we find out if that works out some other [55:14] way, but he he could potentially be a [55:16] citizen representative. Tara Kipps as a [55:18] nominee, Alba Alvarez, and then uh [55:22] potentially Rachel Doyle. We want to [55:24] check with the chamber to double-check [55:25] that. And then Amanda has said she's [55:27] willing to do it and and the schools are [55:29] here tonight. So, [55:31] that works. Okay, do we want to go on [55:32] and nominate those folks that we've [55:34] mentioned as uh representatives for now? [55:36] Jordy, Okay, we have a motion to do so? [55:38] >> So moved. [55:39] >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [55:41] >> Second. [55:41] >> Motion and second. Any discussion? All [55:43] in favor, please respond by saying I. [55:45] >> I. [55:45] >> Any opposed? And if we can try to get [55:48] the others in place, we can do that and [55:50] the tourism board can get rolling by the [55:52] community fest date. So that'd be [55:54] perfect. [55:55] Awesome. Thank you all so much. Um for [55:57] agency on aging, do we want to go on and reappoint Sally Ann since she did [56:02] express the interest? [56:03] >> Yes. [56:03] >> Okay. We have a motion. Do we have a [56:05] second? [56:05] >> Second. [56:06] >> Motion and second. Any discussion? All [56:08] in favor, please respond by saying I. [56:10] >> I. [56:10] >> Any opposed? We need advertise board of [56:13] zoning appeals, correct? [56:15] >> We do. [56:15] >> Okay. So if we could do that, we can [56:17] come back to that in August or whenever. [56:21] Do you need that to function pretty [56:23] quickly though? [56:25] >> I hope not. [56:26] >> Okay. [56:27] Good. [56:28] All right. Moving on to new business. Um [56:31] in addition to the uh school match uh [56:35] and the other parts of the budget, the [56:37] state gave the localities across the [56:40] state the ability to add a 1% [56:44] sales tax [56:46] to use revenue solely for capital [56:48] projects for new construction or major [56:50] renovation of schools. [56:52] This was something that was done on a [56:55] community by community basis previously. [56:57] It existed in the past. Uh some [56:59] localities have taken advantage of that, [57:01] but it wasn't statewide. Now it is [57:03] statewide where any locality could do [57:05] it. It has to be a uh ballot initiative. [57:09] It would have to be on the ballot this [57:11] November to take effect uh as soon as as [57:14] possible beyond that, and it would have [57:17] to be uh voted on obviously by the [57:19] community. So there'd be a referendum on [57:21] it. [57:22] Um [57:23] what this would mean is there would the [57:25] Radford's sales tax would move up 1%. So [57:28] basically it would go from 5 cents to 6 [57:30] cents. That's not counting meals tax and [57:33] other things along that line. So, the [57:35] total tax depending on the item [57:37] purchased would be different. There are [57:39] certain things that would not be [57:41] included in this. We're still getting [57:43] all the clarification, but primarily [57:46] some personal hygiene products and some [57:48] food products would not be included in [57:50] the tax. We have heard from a number of [57:52] folks. Our Commissioner of Revenue gave [57:55] us some thoughts on this so that we [57:57] would have a little more understanding [57:58] of it as a council. There are some [58:01] challenges associated. [58:03] Also, [58:04] I I don't I heard I don't know if you [58:06] all heard from Lindsay Williams, our [58:07] Director of Elections. One of the real [58:09] challenges we have this year is we are [58:11] going to have a mega ballot in November [58:13] that there's three constitutional [58:15] amendments in addition to all the [58:17] members of council and the state or the federal elections for the um [58:23] for the Congress on that. [58:26] So, one of the concerns is that [58:28] potentially this will be a long ballot [58:29] and this would be the very last thing on [58:31] the ballot as part of that. [58:34] Council, what are your all's thoughts [58:35] given all of those parameters? [58:43] » Well, I think it's been brought up. [58:45] >> [clears throat] [58:45] >> It's a 20-year [58:47] uh [58:47] deal. [58:48] >> Mhm. [58:49] >> Um and and if we didn't do it this year [58:51] under current, I guess uh statute, we [58:55] could do it next year. [58:56] >> Right. But this is a new thing that's [58:57] not going away. It's not got a sunset [59:00] clause associated with it right now. [59:01] >> But can it be changed? [59:03] >> Any law can be changed, yeah. [59:04] >> Okay. So, I guess my initial feeling was [59:08] it's up to the the citizens. [59:10] Um and it could be changed. So, my [59:13] feeling is that we ought to put it on [59:15] the the ballot and let let the citizens [59:17] decide. [59:19] Do they want to support the schools in [59:20] this capital effort or not? [59:25] >> I tend to think the same way. I I, you [59:27] know, am I endorsing a vote for yes and [59:29] this and that? Everyone will have to [59:30] make that decision at the ballot box. [59:31] Inevitably, the schools do have capital [59:33] needs that do have to be addressed, and [59:35] this, you know, the those needs are [59:38] going to come before us, and then I [59:39] think that this is an opportunity to let [59:42] the people decide if if if that's what [59:44] they um [59:45] are are going to be able to do. I do [59:48] think that some valid concerns have been [59:49] brought up um from Kelsey and from uh Lindsey as far [59:54] as getting it on the ballot, what the [59:56] appetite for that will be this year. I I [59:59] don't know. Um but I think to Gus's [1:00:01] point um [1:00:03] you know, this does give the people a [1:00:04] voice on um if they if if they support [1:00:07] it or not. [1:00:09] >> What are your thoughts, Jesse? [1:00:10] >> Yeah, I feel the same way. Um [1:00:13] really is put it into the hands of our [1:00:15] citizens and let them decide if this is [1:00:18] the tax increase that that they're [1:00:20] willing to do at this juncture. [1:00:23] >> Gwen? [1:00:24] >> I'm sorry. [1:00:25] >> Okay. So, my concern is um and I'll just [1:00:28] share some additional thoughts. I mean, [1:00:30] it it sounds like we have a consensus [1:00:33] that folks want to move ahead with that. [1:00:35] I will say here's the risk. Um [1:00:38] we don't know yet for our community what [1:00:41] the overall tax picture is going to look [1:00:42] like next year and in coming years, [1:00:44] whether that's a combination of real [1:00:47] estate, um a combination of sales tax, [1:00:51] whatever that might be. And I think [1:00:53] that's a concern that I have. Um my [1:00:56] preference would be for us to wait [1:00:58] because we do have the ability to do [1:01:00] this next year and put it on the ballot [1:01:02] then after we've developed something a [1:01:03] little more substantial, and we know [1:01:06] where we are, or at least the council [1:01:08] that's serving in the spring of next [1:01:10] year when they're doing the budget knows [1:01:12] where they are uh to go from there. But [1:01:14] it sounds like am I the only one who [1:01:16] wants to wait? Is is everybody else want [1:01:18] to move forward this year? [1:01:20] >> Forward for me. [1:01:22] >> Okay. So, do we have a motion? [1:01:25] >> So moved. [1:01:26] >> We have a motion to adopt the resolution [1:01:28] and a second. [1:01:29] >> Second. [1:01:29] >> Motion and a second. Uh Melissa, would [1:01:32] you call the roll? [1:01:33] >> Mr. Trick? [1:01:34] >> Yes. [1:01:35] >> Mrs. Foster? [1:01:36] >> Yes. [1:01:37] >> Mr. Glassby? [1:01:38] >> Yes. [1:01:38] >> Mr. Wolford? [1:01:39] >> Yes. [1:01:40] >> Mayor Horton? [1:01:41] >> No. And the only reason I'm a no, I will [1:01:43] explain that is I think it would be [1:01:44] better if we waited. I don't think we're [1:01:47] ready for this for this fall to get it [1:01:49] passed. Uh doesn't mean you can't work [1:01:51] on it um and and try to make that happen [1:01:54] because it it's going to be on there. [1:01:55] The motion does carry. [1:01:57] But I think this is a big enough deal [1:01:59] for our community that this is another [1:02:02] tax after we've just increased real [1:02:04] estate taxes, after we've just increased [1:02:07] uh other fees and things along that [1:02:09] line. We really need to know where we [1:02:12] are before we move forward with this and [1:02:14] figure out what makes sense. It'll be in [1:02:17] the hands of the voters and we'll see [1:02:18] where we go. I think it's more prudent [1:02:21] to wait, but we're going to move forward [1:02:22] as a community and see where we are. I [1:02:25] do think it's a great idea down the road [1:02:27] to have some additional capital funds, [1:02:29] but we really need to work on developing [1:02:32] the most essential needs capital plan [1:02:34] for what we would do with those funds um [1:02:37] over a period of time and have some [1:02:39] further discussion on that uh so that [1:02:42] the community can make that decision cuz [1:02:43] that's an important part of this. That [1:02:46] um it has to be sold to the citizens of [1:02:49] Radford that we're funding improvements [1:02:51] at the high school or we're funding [1:02:53] improvements that are needed here. And I [1:02:55] don't know that we're ready for that at [1:02:56] this point in time. And it's a very [1:02:58] short window, so we'll see where we go. [1:03:00] It's going to be on the ballot. Council [1:03:02] approved it, so we'll see where we go [1:03:03] with that. Um [1:03:06] Council, you all heard a little bit [1:03:07] earlier about our mobile unit that [1:03:11] Radford University is uh has been [1:03:14] working on and they need a memorandum of [1:03:17] understandment on a memorandum of [1:03:19] agreement for affiliation. So, that'll [1:03:21] be an understandment [1:03:23] between us and the university city and [1:03:27] the university to agree. [1:03:31] And this memorandum of agreement has a [1:03:33] date of the 29th of May, 2026. Do we [1:03:36] need to alter that to the current date [1:03:38] if we're going to consider it? [1:03:44] Can you repeat the question, mayor? So, [1:03:45] the memorandum of agreement that's in [1:03:47] front of us is entered in as of the 29th [1:03:50] of May, 2026. For us to consider it, do [1:03:52] we need to alter that to today's date? [1:03:54] >> You can yes. The event's going to be [1:03:56] held in late July, but yes. Yeah. [1:03:58] >> Right. Yeah. Right. Right. But, we're [1:04:00] being asked to approve the memorandum of [1:04:02] understanding, right? [1:04:03] >> Yeah. Yeah. You can approve it with the [1:04:05] change. [1:04:05] >> Okay. [1:04:07] >> Now, [1:04:08] as I read it, I think there's no [1:04:10] liability to the city if someone goes [1:04:13] into this mobile unit and something goes [1:04:17] wrong. [1:04:20] » It's a big question. [1:04:21] >> Yeah. [1:04:22] >> Um [1:04:22] >> Yeah. [1:04:24] >> I I think that I'm not sure what role [1:04:28] that any [1:04:30] You know, as I understand it, the mobile [1:04:32] unit is being administrated [1:04:37] um [1:04:38] by employees of Carilion. Is that [1:04:41] correct? Or I'm sorry, Radford [1:04:43] University, not by any employees of the [1:04:46] city, correct? [1:04:49] I mean, in essence, the only thing that [1:04:50] the city is providing, you know, is [1:04:53] basically a parking lot for the mobile [1:04:55] unit on city property. [1:04:58] You know, now if there was some type of, [1:05:00] I guess, [1:05:02] condition there at the parking lot that [1:05:05] the city had created and somebody was [1:05:08] walking up to the mobile unit and I [1:05:10] guess tripped and fell or something like [1:05:12] that. Maybe then there could be an issue [1:05:15] for the for the city, but um as to the [1:05:19] um administration of the mobile unit [1:05:21] itself by our U staff, I think that the [1:05:24] exposure is low. [1:05:26] >> Mainly for training students. I Is that [1:05:29] That's kind of what the idea I got? [1:05:46] Okay. [1:05:56] How many other uh jurisdictions have [1:05:59] you've got agreements with? [1:06:03] » Can you Can you come up to the podium? [1:06:07] Sorry. [1:06:17] » [laughter] [1:06:21] » Well, some of this is so folks watching [1:06:22] on streaming can hear you as well. [1:06:24] >> Yes. I'm sorry. [1:06:26] So, I just also want to recognize [1:06:27] Elizabeth at the Radford Public Library [1:06:30] who's so graciously um been one of our [1:06:32] community supporters. We currently have [1:06:35] affiliations with um the Health Wagon [1:06:38] down in Wise, Virginia. Um New River [1:06:40] Valley Community Services, VDH. Um we're [1:06:44] looking to partner with Food City um and [1:06:47] several other local businesses. Um We [1:06:50] have We've looked at [1:06:52] um just several businesses around the [1:06:54] area and in Roanoke. So, we've also [1:06:57] started some conversations with the [1:06:58] least of these, which is a homeless [1:07:00] service center. Um and we plan to do We [1:07:03] plan to expand throughout the New River [1:07:05] Valley and Southwest Virginia. [1:07:07] >> But but I mean jurisdictions. [1:07:10] >> As far as [1:07:11] >> Said Food City and some other places. [1:07:12] Those are partners. [1:07:14] >> Yeah, they're they're partners. So, um [1:07:16] right now the city of Radford is the [1:07:18] only jurisdiction that we [1:07:21] have an agree- that we have proposed an [1:07:23] agreement with right now. We'll probably [1:07:25] expand [1:07:27] to Pulaski County um and some of the [1:07:29] other surrounding counties as well [1:07:31] because, you know, we do want to be able to be in the community where, [1:07:36] you know, we're hoping to do the the [1:07:37] Radford Community Fest in August. Um [1:07:40] have some events at the library with [1:07:42] VDH. [1:07:43] Um but also in Pulaski County. So, if [1:07:46] there's something hosted at Randolph [1:07:47] Park or something that encompasses the [1:07:49] county and or the city of Radford that [1:07:52] we can be there on site and both of our [1:07:54] all both our entity at Radford [1:07:56] University and the city could be covered [1:07:58] with that. [1:07:59] >> And it's not uh based on monetary income or [1:08:05] anything. [1:08:07] >> We're We've actually put our application [1:08:09] in to become a free and charitable [1:08:10] clinic. So, all of our services is as [1:08:13] long as I have anything to do with it [1:08:15] will remain free for our free for our [1:08:17] citizens regardless of insurance status. [1:08:20] >> saying they don't means test. That's [1:08:21] what you're asking, right guy? [1:08:23] They don't means test. So, they don't [1:08:24] see if you [1:08:25] >> means test. [1:08:26] >> Right. Correct. And what kind of [1:08:27] services is going to be again? I'm [1:08:29] sorry. [1:08:29] >> starting out with with So, we're [1:08:31] building a service line, which means [1:08:33] we're starting out kind of small just to [1:08:35] pilot with some screening services for [1:08:37] hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidemia. [1:08:41] Um and then we hope to expand out. We're [1:08:43] doing some school physicals uh this fall [1:08:46] and summer and we're hoping to expand [1:08:48] out to we where we can actually have [1:08:50] full encounters for acute care, gap care [1:08:53] services, and also connecting um [1:08:56] citizens to resources. So, if they need [1:08:58] a referral to a specialist or be [1:09:01] established with a primary care [1:09:03] provider, we can put that in place [1:09:05] immediately. [1:09:06] Um and then we are also looking at [1:09:08] telehealth services, become a telehealth [1:09:10] service provider. So, if a patient [1:09:13] doesn't have access to broadband, they [1:09:15] can come to us and we can facilitate [1:09:17] that appointment to a specialist at UBA [1:09:19] or Wake Forest or John Hopkins, wherever [1:09:22] they need to be seen. [1:09:24] >> Right now, it sounds like you you know, [1:09:26] you kind of have a mobile unit unit. [1:09:27] Have you thought any about having a [1:09:29] permanent facility if this works out on [1:09:33] campus or around or something like that? [1:09:35] >> So, I don't want to speak out of turn [1:09:37] because you know, there's channels that [1:09:38] we have to go through through the [1:09:39] university, but we [1:09:41] there have been conversations about a [1:09:44] center for rural health. [1:09:46] I don't know that that will encompass a [1:09:48] brick-and-mortar clinic. It would be my my heart dream to do that, but the [1:09:53] purpose of mobile clinics is meeting [1:09:55] people of the community where they're at [1:09:58] and eliminating that transportation [1:10:00] barrier. So, in my choice right now in our university, we are choosing the [1:10:06] mobile health clinic so we can emerge [1:10:08] our students in that culture of rural [1:10:11] health. [1:10:12] >> Will you be providing vaccinations by [1:10:14] chance? [1:10:15] >> So, that is it in the health care world, [1:10:21] that is a little complicated because [1:10:23] we're not providing insur- we we don't [1:10:25] accept insurance. It's a free care and [1:10:28] Medicaid has their own vaccine service [1:10:31] line. So, if you participate with [1:10:33] Medicaid, they ship you the vaccine. So, [1:10:36] our solution to that is we're partnering [1:10:38] with VDH to hold shared clinics so they [1:10:42] can provide the vaccine and we can [1:10:44] provide alternate services so we expand [1:10:46] those service lines, we expand the resource for the patient in one [1:10:52] spot. [1:10:53] >> Did Did I read in there that every spot [1:10:57] you want to to go to that the city has [1:10:59] to approve. [1:11:01] Did anybody else read that? [1:11:03] >> Do you know [1:11:04] >> I think that's just like a verbal [1:11:05] agreement that if we're going to the, [1:11:08] you know, Radford Library that we would [1:11:10] just make sure that Mr. Meredith knew [1:11:13] that or if we were going to be in [1:11:14] Bissett Park one day that that would [1:11:16] just be a shared communication, [1:11:19] you know, with the organizational [1:11:22] appointment and myself at Radford [1:11:25] University that we would have that [1:11:27] understanding before we release that [1:11:29] information to the city and the citizens [1:11:32] that we would just share, you know, [1:11:34] agree. [1:11:35] >> partnership thing you we were you were [1:11:37] mentioning like if Food City said, "Hey, [1:11:39] you can come to our parking lot." [1:11:41] >> We have to have the same thing with them [1:11:43] as well. A memorandum of agreement with [1:11:46] that with those organizations. [1:11:47] >> want to be able to go to different spots [1:11:49] in the city, correct? [1:11:50] >> Absolutely. But this memorandum of [1:11:53] agreement, if it's my understanding [1:11:55] correctly, is just to be on city [1:11:57] property locations. So like Radford [1:12:00] Library, Bissett Park. If we wanted to [1:12:03] host something in conjunction with [1:12:04] emergency services. [1:12:07] Um [1:12:08] something like that. [1:12:09] >> And Todd, on our end, um for for city, [1:12:11] how long of a or how much of a heads up [1:12:14] would you like, I guess, you know, for [1:12:15] that correspondence if if they're going [1:12:17] to be at the library? I mean, 3 days, [1:12:19] week? I mean, what what works for [1:12:21] >> I think a week or two in case we had to [1:12:23] prepare for the event, you know, tape [1:12:24] off an area or, you know, um if it's a [1:12:27] parking lot, maybe we have to fill some [1:12:28] potholes or something like that. [1:12:29] >> I hope I have that to you in 3 months in [1:12:32] advance because we run on academic [1:12:34] semester, so I have to have that [1:12:35] schedule 2 to 4 weeks before the [1:12:38] semester starts, so I have to have that [1:12:41] to you in plenty of time, sir. [1:12:42] >> time? [1:12:43] >> Yes. [1:12:43] >> How many how many events just [1:12:45] preliminary are you thinking of of [1:12:46] holding? [1:12:47] >> So, right now in our uh a fall pilot, we [1:12:51] hope to be out at least one day a week. [1:12:54] We have gotten a couple two days a week [1:12:56] and then in spring of 2027, which in [1:12:59] academia starts in January, we hope to [1:13:02] bump that up to three days a week. Um we [1:13:05] also have a part an MOU with Radford [1:13:07] City Public Schools right now. Um so [1:13:09] we're actually working on a a project [1:13:12] with them with the mobile clinic and [1:13:14] hope to expand that into maybe some [1:13:16] school-based care. Um so we'll kind of [1:13:20] see where that goes. [1:13:21] >> Is it first come first serve or is it [1:13:23] appointment-based? [1:13:24] >> We're we're still working through those [1:13:25] logistics. It's going to be walk-ins [1:13:28] mainly. Um but we do we are launching [1:13:30] our electronic health record, which um [1:13:33] is going to you know, in all our of our [1:13:35] media social media and flyers, we'll [1:13:38] have a QR code that um patients or [1:13:41] anybody uh wishing to acquire services [1:13:44] can scan a QR code and schedule their [1:13:46] appointment ahead of time. [1:13:48] >> Awesome. [1:13:50] Okay. [1:13:50] >> Thank you. [1:13:51] >> And it is a wonderful thing because what [1:13:53] a great learning tool, but what a great [1:13:55] service for so many people who are [1:13:56] struggling uh to get their health care. [1:13:59] So Council, we have this uh memorandum [1:14:01] of agreement. Do we have a motion to [1:14:02] adopt? [1:14:03] >> So moved. [1:14:04] >> We have a motion. [clears throat] Do we [1:14:04] have a second? [1:14:05] >> Second. [1:14:05] >> Any further discussion? All in favor, [1:14:07] please respond by saying I. [1:14:09] >> I. [1:14:09] >> Any opposed? All right. Thank you so [1:14:11] much. [1:14:13] Council, you also have the DMV Select [1:14:15] Agreement and that establishes terms and [1:14:18] conditions under which the [1:14:20] DMV has appointed the agent to establish [1:14:23] and maintain a license agency of the DMV Select in Radford and currently this [1:14:29] is with our Treasurer's office. So we're [1:14:31] glad you're here tonight, Joy. Thank you [1:14:32] for being here. Todd, you and and Joy [1:14:35] have had some discussions and talked [1:14:36] through it. Are you good with the uh [1:14:38] bulk of the agreement with how it [1:14:40] stands? [1:14:41] >> Yes, I'm comfortable with it. [1:14:43] >> So the manager thinks we can work [1:14:45] through this. Council, do you all have [1:14:46] any questions? [1:14:48] Do we have a motion to adopt? [1:14:49] >> So moved. [1:14:50] >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [1:14:51] >> I second. [1:14:52] >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? [1:14:54] All in favor, please respond by saying [1:14:55] I. [1:14:56] >> I. [1:14:57] >> Any opposed? [1:14:58] Okay, we have another agreement we need [1:15:00] to consider. It is a Procom repeater [1:15:02] agreement. The purpose of this MOU is to [1:15:04] allow Procom to install communications [1:15:07] repeater antenna coaxial cable on the [1:15:09] city-owned tower on Prospect Street. The [1:15:12] repeater is just for the use of Radford [1:15:14] Transit to provide more consistent and [1:15:16] improved communications. Melissa, do you [1:15:18] have anything you want to share about [1:15:20] that from the transit side? [1:15:22] >> Um currently that repeater is located at [1:15:24] Smith Mountain Lake. So they're being a [1:15:26] little bit closer will have better [1:15:27] coverage with our [1:15:30] radios. Um the payment actually our [1:15:33] contractor covers the payment. So this [1:15:35] is not at any cost to us a city. [1:15:37] >> Okay. What does this do from a radio [1:15:39] wave standpoint? Is there the risk of [1:15:42] putting it on Prospect Street that it [1:15:44] will interfere with communications in [1:15:47] the city or does it limit us for any [1:15:49] other [1:15:50] communication on that tower? [1:15:51] >> It does not. We've worked with Procom [1:15:53] for a number of years and they they help [1:15:54] us with all our um [1:15:56] PD, fire, EMS um repeater. So they're [1:15:59] very well versed in what our current [1:16:02] status is with our repeaters and it will [1:16:04] not conflict with any others. [1:16:05] >> Fantastic. All right, Council, you have [1:16:07] this agreement in front of you. Do we [1:16:09] want to adopt or go another direction? [1:16:11] Do we have a motion? [1:16:12] >> Motion to approve. [1:16:13] Do we have a second? [1:16:15] >> I second. [1:16:15] >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? All [1:16:17] in favor, please respond by saying I. [1:16:19] >> I. [1:16:19] >> Any opposed? Um T-Mobile has requested [1:16:22] an amendment to their original December [1:16:24] 11th, 2001 lease for 410 Prospect [1:16:27] Street. This agreement would allow them [1:16:29] to continue use of the tower. [1:16:31] Um I'm assuming the same thing applies [1:16:33] that us being able to do the tower on [1:16:36] Prospect Street with Procom won't affect [1:16:38] T-Mobile. [1:16:39] >> It will not. [1:16:40] >> Okay. [1:16:41] Council, you have the agreement for the [1:16:43] land and tower with T-Mobile. Is there a [1:16:45] motion to approve? [1:16:47] >> So moved. [1:16:47] >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [1:16:49] >> Second. [1:16:50] >> Motion and a second, any discussion? All [1:16:52] in favor, please respond by saying aye. [1:16:54] Any opposed? [1:16:56] Smart Scale application. All right, the [1:16:58] Virginia Department of Transportation [1:17:00] reached out to the city in October 2025 [1:17:02] regarding an opportunity for us to [1:17:04] participate in an Office of Intermodal [1:17:06] Planning and Investment Project Pipeline [1:17:08] Study for the city from Lee Highway to [1:17:10] Tyler Avenue, which basically runs down [1:17:13] Main Street. VDOT identified this area [1:17:15] as one of the top study locations within [1:17:17] the region we're in, which is called the [1:17:19] Salem District. And staff has worked [1:17:21] with stakeholders from the OIPI office, [1:17:24] VDOT, regional commission, and the MPO [1:17:27] on the proposed study. It focused on [1:17:28] improving the roadway and pedestrian [1:17:30] safety, multimodal accessibility, so [1:17:33] bicycles, pedestrians, and transit, and [1:17:35] transportation demand management needs. [1:17:38] The project recommendation from the [1:17:39] study has been developed into a funding [1:17:41] application for Smart Scale Round 7. So, [1:17:44] this is how you get money from VDOT to [1:17:45] pave and adjust roads and everything [1:17:47] along that line. [1:17:49] We would be looking at a resolution of [1:17:51] support. It does not obligate the city [1:17:53] to fund the project. Melissa, I know [1:17:55] you've worked a lot on this. Do you have [1:17:56] anything you want to share? [1:17:58] >> No, Mayor. We had had, over the last 6 [1:18:01] months, had a number of opportunities [1:18:03] for the community to provide input, so [1:18:04] this has been out in the public. [1:18:07] Like you said, it does just give us [1:18:09] permission to go ahead and submit the [1:18:11] application. [1:18:12] So, we don't know the cost of the [1:18:14] project or anything like that or city's [1:18:16] obligation if we were to approve, but [1:18:19] just want to be able to submit the [1:18:20] application. [1:18:21] >> Todd, do you have any additional [1:18:22] thoughts or you good with it like it is? [1:18:24] >> I'm good with it like it is. [1:18:25] >> Okay. And just for people's [1:18:26] clarification, this is again from [1:18:29] basically the intersection of Main [1:18:31] Street Memorial Bridge East. And so, it [1:18:34] provides a a work in that corridor for [1:18:36] safety. Council, do you all want to make [1:18:39] a motion to approve the Smart Scale [1:18:40] application? Do we have a motion? [1:18:42] >> So moved. [1:18:43] >> a motion. [1:18:43] >> Do we have a second? [1:18:45] >> Second. [1:18:45] >> Motion is second, any discussion? All in [1:18:47] favor, please respond by saying I. [1:18:50] Any opposed? Okay. [1:18:52] Uh fiscal year 2027 chemical bid the [1:18:54] water treatment plant received bids for [1:18:56] one of the significant chemicals [1:18:58] polyaluminum chloride uses a coagulant [1:19:01] in our treatment process of potable [1:19:03] water. Uh sub suppliers of this chemical [1:19:05] are very limited and we received a bid [1:19:07] from Kymara for uh [1:19:10] 33.6 cents uh per liquid pound uh and a [1:19:14] bid from US Alco for just a penny or so [1:19:19] or a hundredth of a penny less than [1:19:20] that. Um the cost of these chemicals is [1:19:23] included as part of the fiscal year 2027 [1:19:26] annual budget. City staff has reviewed [1:19:28] this. They recommend the approval of the [1:19:30] award to uh USALCO. [1:19:34] Council, do you all have any questions? [1:19:37] Do we have a motion to approve? [1:19:39] >> So moved. [1:19:40] >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [1:19:41] >> Second. [1:19:42] >> Motion is second, any discussion? All in [1:19:44] favor, please respond by saying I. [1:19:46] >> I. [1:19:46] >> Any opposed? All right, now we have [1:19:48] several appropriations here. What I'd [1:19:50] like to do is discuss them all quickly, [1:19:53] uh kind of go through them, see if [1:19:54] anybody has any questions, kind of [1:19:55] explain what they are, and let's approve [1:19:57] them all at once so we can get through [1:19:59] this this grouping. They are all for [1:20:01] fiscal year 2026. This is money that has [1:20:04] been a expended and we need to now go [1:20:06] back and appropriate it. Todd, would you [1:20:08] start us off and then we will go line by [1:20:11] line into what each of these are and I [1:20:13] know social services is here. If you all [1:20:15] want to go on over to the podium, we're [1:20:17] going to ask you about several that come [1:20:19] up here in just a second. So Todd, get [1:20:21] us rolling. [1:20:22] >> So to summarize these are FY '26 [1:20:24] appropriations. [1:20:26] Um I'm going to defer to Vicky and Keith [1:20:28] on the Department of Social Services, [1:20:30] but I do think it's interesting to point [1:20:31] out that the Erronze operation that's a [1:20:33] joint venture between the city and the [1:20:35] state and it's just a good example of [1:20:38] how collaboration can help local [1:20:40] businesses and job creation. So, that [1:20:42] was funded half by the state, half by [1:20:44] the city. [1:20:45] >> Absolutely. And that's $25,900 [1:20:48] for that Commonwealth Opportunity Fund. [1:20:51] Okay, we have several here in a row [1:20:53] comprehensive services act funding, [1:20:55] Medicare expansion, social services [1:20:57] grants, and social services [1:20:58] administrative state funding. What can [1:21:00] you all share about that? [1:21:02] >> So, [1:21:03] those funding [clears throat] streams [1:21:04] have various local match rates. Medicaid [1:21:07] expansion has zero local money. [1:21:10] Um [1:21:10] I guess the highest local match rate is [1:21:13] 20%. Otherwise, it's 15.5%. [1:21:17] So, the typical state reimbursement [1:21:19] rate. [1:21:21] So, and [1:21:22] on there you'll have auxiliary grant. [1:21:24] >> Mhm. [1:21:25] >> That's the money that goes to pay for [1:21:27] like people who live at Fairview Home [1:21:29] and you know, can't live on their own [1:21:31] and and need supportive and assisted [1:21:34] living facilities. So, that's an example [1:21:36] of how that money is used and um [1:21:40] Dick Herschberger and I [1:21:42] sit on those boards [1:21:44] and right now Radford has the second [1:21:48] highest population at Fairview Home. So, [1:21:50] that those funds are being used and and [1:21:53] the people there residents are being [1:21:55] well taken care of. [1:21:57] >> What's the cost to the city for that? [1:21:59] >> Auxiliary grants. [1:22:01] >> Um [1:22:02] that's 20% local match. Whatever that [1:22:05] number is, you just times that by 20%. [1:22:07] Um [1:22:08] the the administration one, [1:22:11] it's a 15.5% [1:22:13] match. [1:22:14] >> Okay. [1:22:14] >> And by giving us that 15.5% [1:22:18] match on that, that is stopping the city [1:22:21] from having to spend something called [1:22:23] pass through, which would require a 67% [1:22:26] match. So, it's a a big savings if you [1:22:30] can just give us extra money in a [1:22:32] different pot of money, so we don't have [1:22:34] to spend other money. [1:22:35] >> And the city gets a better [1:22:36] reimbursement, right? [1:22:38] >> So, it's not that we're spending extra [1:22:40] money, we're just changing the funding [1:22:43] stream [1:22:44] of where those costs have already been [1:22:46] paid for. [1:22:48] Uh CSA administration, uh that pays for [1:22:51] a small portion [1:22:53] of the CSA coordinator's salary. [1:22:56] Uh the CSA coordinator works with [1:22:59] children that are at risk. Uh some of [1:23:01] the children are also school children [1:23:05] that are placed in private they [1:23:06] placement. Some of them are foster [1:23:08] children [1:23:09] uh in different uh various placements. [1:23:13] >> And for that, you said there is a local [1:23:15] match for the 13,000 or not? [1:23:17] >> It's it's at the CSA. [1:23:18] >> Yeah. [1:23:19] >> Uh I think it's a I think it's about 25% [1:23:21] local match. [1:23:23] Uh it's mentioned in your um [1:23:26] your handout. It actually shows the the [1:23:28] local match somewhere. [1:23:30] >> Okay. Okay. So, uh basically what I'm [1:23:33] looking at here if we are able to do [1:23:35] these for the CSA, it's about $2,600 [1:23:39] additional the city's can contributing [1:23:41] not not quite with you add in the total, [1:23:43] but that's approximate. 12,000 for the [1:23:46] social services auxiliary if that's a uh [1:23:49] 20% match on that, and then 4,500 for [1:23:52] the social services administrative. Are [1:23:55] we able to accommodate that, Todd? [1:23:57] >> Real quick, just for clarification, [1:23:58] these have already been expended. We're [1:24:00] just making an appropriation ordinance [1:24:02] for last year. So, I mean I don't know [1:24:04] if it's a matter of if we can afford it [1:24:05] cuz we've already done so, correct? [1:24:07] >> we have to find additional money for [1:24:09] that, or have we already spent it? [1:24:12] >> There is pass-through money that we have [1:24:14] not spent because of vacancies in the [1:24:17] agency. So, what we're doing is we're [1:24:20] giving up the pass-through money, which [1:24:23] requires a 6 to 7% local match. So, [1:24:26] we're giving up I don't remember the [1:24:28] exact dollar amount. We're going to give [1:24:29] up like $30,000 of pass-through that we [1:24:33] didn't spend. That will give us the [1:24:35] local match money to pay for the other [1:24:38] programs. [1:24:38] >> Okay. [1:24:39] >> So, that the main piece I wanted to talk [1:24:41] about was were we going to have to find [1:24:43] additional money. So, what it sounds [1:24:44] like is we will not. [1:24:45] >> That's correct. [1:24:46] >> Okay. That's good news. All right, [1:24:47] great. And thank you all so much. Do you [1:24:49] have any other questions for Social [1:24:51] Services while we have Ms. Pody? [1:24:54] >> Nope. [1:24:54] >> Okay. Uh and then we have a $1 million [1:24:57] reclass budgeted personnel savings. And [1:25:00] I know we've got to go back. I do [1:25:02] recognize I'm skipped over item 10, but [1:25:04] I'll I'll go back to that. For [1:25:05] appropriation ordinance 1815.46, [1:25:09] uh the budget was built on the [1:25:10] assumption we would have about a million [1:25:11] dollars in personnel savings. It's [1:25:13] actually likely exceeded that. Since it [1:25:15] was not known at the time which [1:25:16] departments or funds would generate the [1:25:18] savings, the entire amount was budgeted [1:25:20] just in the general fund. This aligns [1:25:22] the budget to the actual. Todd, do you [1:25:24] have anything else you want to share [1:25:25] about that? [1:25:27] » No, that that's summarized very well. Um [1:25:30] I will say we, you know, that's the [1:25:32] million dollars that was budgeted as a [1:25:34] credit back to the budget. But as we [1:25:35] work through the numbers, expect that to [1:25:37] grow higher as far as the savings that [1:25:39] we achieved from uh um um payroll cuts. [1:25:43] Uh it's going to be much higher than [1:25:44] that. [1:25:45] >> Okay, counselor, are there any [1:25:46] additional questions? [1:25:47] >> I just think I'll just follow up on that [1:25:49] question. So, we are trending much [1:25:51] higher than the $1 million that we [1:25:52] projected. [1:25:53] >> That's correct. [1:25:53] >> Okay. Are you are you starting to see [1:25:54] that carry over into this fiscal year as [1:25:57] well, where we've held the [1:25:58] >> We carried over I believe the $1 million [1:26:00] was based on a 17 employees assumption [1:26:03] that 17 employees would be uh uh [1:26:06] that that 17 uh positions in the payroll [1:26:08] would be reduced through attrition. And [1:26:10] we have went uh at one point reached as [1:26:13] high as 34 in FY26, but we've carried [1:26:15] forward into fiscal year 27 24 [1:26:18] vacancies. So, yes, that number [1:26:22] we saved it in FY 26 and we will [1:26:24] continue to have that savings that's [1:26:27] there going into 27. The 27 budget was [1:26:29] built around that. [1:26:30] >> Yep. Thank you. [1:26:32] Um Council, we have appropriation [1:26:34] ordinance 1815.41 [1:26:36] in the amount of $25,900, [1:26:38] 1815.42 [1:26:40] in the amount of $13,506, [1:26:42] 1815.43 [1:26:44] in the amount of $75,217, [1:26:47] 1815.44 [1:26:49] in the amount of $61,862, [1:26:53] 1815.45 [1:26:54] in the amount of $29,169, [1:26:58] 1815.46 [1:26:59] in the amount of $1,000,000. Are there [1:27:01] any further questions or concerns or do [1:27:03] we have a motion to adopt those [1:27:05] appropriation ordinances? [1:27:07] >> Motion to approve. [1:27:09] >> So, we have a motion. Do we have a [1:27:10] second? [1:27:12] >> Second. [1:27:12] >> Motion and second. All in favor, please [1:27:14] respond by saying I. [1:27:15] >> I. [1:27:16] >> Any opposed? Having heard four [1:27:18] affirmative votes, we can dispense with [1:27:20] a second reading if so desired. Is there [1:27:22] a motion to dispense with the second [1:27:24] reading? [1:27:24] >> So moved. [1:27:25] >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? [1:27:27] >> Second. [1:27:27] >> Motion and second. Any further [1:27:29] discussion? All in favor, please respond [1:27:31] by saying I. [1:27:32] >> I. [1:27:33] >> Any opposed? Okay. Going back to item [1:27:35] number 10, the right-of-way vacation for [1:27:38] West Main and Rock Road West. Gary [1:27:41] Duncan, who has Gad Management, has [1:27:44] submitted his request to vacate a [1:27:45] portion of [1:27:47] the right-of-way located at the corner [1:27:48] of West Main Street and Rock Road. A [1:27:50] public hearing was held on June 9th. [1:27:52] Staff requested City Council appoint a [1:27:54] three-person board of viewers who are [1:27:56] charged with the responsibility of [1:27:57] examining this request and making [1:27:59] written recommendations to City Council [1:28:02] to any inconvenience that results from [1:28:04] discontinuing this right-of-way. We have [1:28:06] reached out to Bill Fleischer, Jennifer [1:28:08] Van Deren, and Abram Williams. They've [1:28:10] all agreed, so we need a motion to adopt [1:28:12] these folks as our board of viewers. Do [1:28:14] we have a motion to do so? [1:28:16] >> So moved. [1:28:17] >> a motion. Do we have a second? [1:28:19] >> Second. [1:28:19] >> A motion and a second. Any further [1:28:20] discussion? All in favor, please respond [1:28:22] by saying I. [1:28:23] >> I. [1:28:24] Any opposed? And thank you to Bill, [1:28:27] and to Jennifer, and to Abram for doing [1:28:29] that. Okay. So, that was a a mega agenda [1:28:33] this evening. Todd, what do you have for [1:28:34] us this evening? [1:28:35] >> I have just a few updates this evening. [1:28:38] Um with regards to finance, our staff [1:28:40] continues to make steady progress on the [1:28:42] FY25 audit. I know we talked about the [1:28:44] forensic audit, but we are still working [1:28:46] on on the fiscal year 2025 audit. [1:28:49] Staff's made great progress. [1:28:51] Uh that is nearing the end of its life [1:28:54] or at least the end of its uh process [1:28:56] cycle. So, we have a draft and uh [1:28:58] anticipate having it ready in August. Uh I just want to talk uh just I just [1:29:04] want to say that [1:29:05] uh I'm most appreciative for staff and [1:29:07] their hard work on all of these audits [1:29:09] that are going on right now. I know it's [1:29:10] been a lot of work, but they've done a [1:29:12] great job and uh rallied together to get [1:29:14] all those documents together and get [1:29:16] everything submitted. [1:29:17] Uh we also continue working with the APA [1:29:20] and our financial consultants as we move [1:29:22] the city forward. Uh while there's still [1:29:24] work to do, we continue making uh [1:29:26] measurable progress toward restoring the [1:29:28] city's uh financial stability. Um I just [1:29:32] will I I briefly mentioned earlier um [1:29:35] we finished FY FY26 um two payments [1:29:38] behind to AP. And I do think that's [1:29:41] significant progress, but I would just [1:29:43] like to express cautious optimism. Uh [1:29:45] we're not out of the woods yet. Uh we [1:29:47] still have to there we we can't have any [1:29:49] missteps. So, we're still watching every [1:29:52] step we take, but uh it is measurable [1:29:54] progress, and I'm I'm glad to be able to [1:29:56] report that. And uh [1:29:57] and as I report that, I do want to thank [1:29:59] all city staff because [1:30:02] uh we wouldn't have been able to do that [1:30:04] uh without city staff taking on what [1:30:06] they have done. [1:30:07] Uh we have reduced uh payroll and I've [1:30:10] seen quite a few department directors [1:30:11] step up and uh and and be able to [1:30:14] accomplish more with less. And uh and I [1:30:16] think that's encouraging. Uh it's [1:30:18] inspiring. So, so I just want to thank [1:30:20] staff for being able to do that and I'm [1:30:21] pleased to report measurable progress, [1:30:24] but also I just want to like I said, [1:30:26] cautious optimism moving forward. [1:30:29] Uh operations, uh the automated mower, [1:30:32] uh that's been put into service and [1:30:34] we've completed training. We're starting [1:30:36] to use that more and more. Uh I just [1:30:38] wanted to talk briefly about it and our [1:30:40] ultimate plan for using it. Uh we're [1:30:43] going to use it to mow all of our [1:30:45] athletic fields. And if we use it for [1:30:47] our athletic fields, that means our [1:30:48] mowing crew doesn't have to mow those [1:30:50] fields. And if they're not mowing those [1:30:51] fields, we may be able to shift them to [1:30:53] some of these others where we have [1:30:54] mowing contracts. So, the city has [1:30:57] approximately $28,000 [1:30:59] annually that we have in mowing [1:31:01] contracts that if we were able to [1:31:02] eliminate those, [1:31:04] uh the return on investment for the [1:31:05] automated mower is less than a year and [1:31:08] a half. So, um we anticipate uh [1:31:12] fingers crossed that it should pay for [1:31:13] itself. And not only pay for itself, but [1:31:16] it can you know, the mowing quality. [1:31:18] It's going to be it's automated. So, [1:31:19] it's going to be consistent. Uh it can [1:31:21] also do things that we really can't do [1:31:24] by hand. It can mow designs uh in the [1:31:26] field. It can mow a logo in the field. [1:31:28] You know, if we want to do that, we can [1:31:29] do it. Um but uh I just expect it to [1:31:32] increase quality and and be more [1:31:34] efficient and cost less in the long [1:31:36] term. So, so uh that's just uh that's [1:31:39] just one example of how we want to move [1:31:41] forward with automation. When and where [1:31:42] we can, automation can save money and uh [1:31:45] and it can improve quality. [1:31:48] Um economic development, you know, I [1:31:50] mentioned Arronzim um I just like to [1:31:52] thank staff for all of their work on [1:31:53] administering the city's [1:31:55] uh grant portfolio and working on [1:31:57] economic development and supporting our [1:31:59] existing businesses. [1:32:01] Um I just think Iranzi's is a good [1:32:03] example of of you know, creating [1:32:06] incentives and working with the state, [1:32:08] managing those, and and getting projects [1:32:10] in place that can help businesses and [1:32:12] create jobs. [1:32:14] Um transportation, I'd like to recognize [1:32:17] the work of our engineering, planning, [1:32:18] public works staff along with our [1:32:20] regional partners at VDOT [1:32:22] uh in preparing the smart scale [1:32:24] application before council tonight. Um [1:32:26] we're bringing that before council [1:32:27] tonight. Uh the approval does not commit [1:32:30] the city financially as you stated [1:32:31] earlier, but it does position us to uh [1:32:34] compete for future uh transportation [1:32:36] improvements that, you know, can enhance [1:32:39] safety, um transportation safety, and [1:32:42] the quality of our of our transportation [1:32:45] infrastructure. So, just wanted to point [1:32:47] that out. Um [1:32:49] Uh community partnerships, I want to [1:32:51] speak to that just briefly. Uh we [1:32:52] continue to strengthen partnerships [1:32:53] through community agreements. Uh I think [1:32:56] the agreement we saw tonight with the [1:32:59] uh Raff University and the health clinic [1:33:01] and the DMV select program. Um I think [1:33:04] that those expand services and make more [1:33:07] services available to the residents of [1:33:08] our community. I just think that's a [1:33:10] value add and it's a quality-of-life [1:33:12] value add. So, just wanted to point to [1:33:14] those and uh everyone involved in those. [1:33:16] I think they're great programs and and [1:33:18] uh and um I think they I think they [1:33:20] benefit the community. [1:33:23] Um wanted to talk for a minute about [1:33:26] MUNIS um and our conversion to MUNIS. Um [1:33:28] the project remains in the testing and [1:33:31] troubleshooting phase. It's very close [1:33:34] to being completed. Uh city staff has [1:33:36] completed the requested modifications to [1:33:39] the It's called the ProVal data export. [1:33:42] I think I pronounced that correctly, but [1:33:44] ProVal data export and we're waiting on [1:33:46] Tyler Technologies. That's MUNIS. Uh [1:33:49] We're waiting on them to complete [1:33:51] several technical fixes within the MUNIS [1:33:53] system. Uh the primary issue involves [1:33:56] the system messaging. Uh [1:33:58] display formatting for certain text [1:34:00] changes and validation of the production [1:34:02] environment, the data that's in there. [1:34:04] There's some data in there that's legacy [1:34:06] data that needs to be cleaned up in [1:34:08] order to get fully converted over. [1:34:10] Um Tyler has uh collected diagnostic [1:34:12] information. They have it. Um we're just [1:34:15] waiting on them to give us the results [1:34:17] and to get us where we can go live. Uh [1:34:20] I'm hopeful. I can't make any [1:34:22] guarantees, but I am hopeful that that [1:34:24] conversion takes place by the end of [1:34:26] July, no later than going into August. [1:34:29] Um you know, I can't guarantee that, but [1:34:31] that's the goal. And and it certainly [1:34:33] seems achievable. So uh so I just wanted [1:34:36] to update everyone on that. [1:34:39] And uh finally, um [1:34:41] just want to thank staff again. I know [1:34:43] we're starting a new fiscal year. Uh [1:34:45] everything that you were able to do in [1:34:46] FY26, I find it I I just think it's very [1:34:49] impressive. What some of our department [1:34:51] directors have been able to do in their [1:34:52] departments, and I look forward to [1:34:53] starting FY27 with everyone. [1:34:57] >> Thank you, Todd. Um and I I did want to [1:35:00] come back to a couple of the things that [1:35:02] you said with the noticeable progress. I [1:35:04] think that's significant for us to [1:35:05] consider. You know, uh one of the [1:35:07] reasons that we've had some challenges [1:35:10] is we've had to choose to finance uh [1:35:12] some of our bills with Appalachian [1:35:14] Electric Power um to be able to keep [1:35:17] cash flow preserved. Um that's one of [1:35:20] the real issues for the city is making [1:35:22] sure that we keep cash on hand. And by [1:35:25] doing that, that's been a way we've been [1:35:27] able to maintain that cash flow. At one [1:35:29] point, we were as high as six bills that [1:35:31] were being financed, and it's down to [1:35:33] two. We would prefer zero, always. Um [1:35:37] but that is demonstrable progress in [1:35:40] about a year and a little bit of change. [1:35:42] And I I think that needs to be commended [1:35:44] significantly. So we did want to [1:35:46] continue to point that out. And as far [1:35:48] as the uh the savings go that we've [1:35:51] talked about with the [1:35:54] uh employee reductions. That has all [1:35:56] been through attrition. [1:35:58] Uh [1:35:58] I don't think we have laid anybody off [1:36:00] for this. We haven't reduced salaries. [1:36:02] You know, there was a lot of commentary [1:36:05] with that that was going to need to be [1:36:06] done, but I think that's an important [1:36:08] piece to bring out as well that so many [1:36:10] people on our staff have stepped up to [1:36:13] take on additional responsibilities, to [1:36:15] find more efficient ways to do things, [1:36:17] and to continue to offer the greatest [1:36:19] service to our community for the [1:36:21] resources that we have available. That's [1:36:23] stressful, too, and we do appreciate [1:36:25] that, and we want to say thank you so [1:36:27] much to all the employees. The other [1:36:29] piece I just have to point out before we [1:36:30] get away from this is our finance [1:36:32] department. What a great job Trish and [1:36:34] her team have done. I mean, it was a [1:36:36] Herculean task to reimagine what we [1:36:39] needed to do to get it back in line, and [1:36:42] to make sure we were moving in the right [1:36:43] direction. The discussions with the APA, [1:36:46] the work we're doing with Brown Edwards, [1:36:48] all of those elements I think are so [1:36:49] important. And you come down to this to [1:36:51] say significant progress has been made [1:36:54] for Radford's challenges, and I wanted [1:36:56] to thank you for bringing those things [1:36:58] forward. I'll have more later in in the [1:37:00] meeting, but I just wanted to highlight [1:37:02] that as part of what you were saying. Uh [1:37:04] Kelly, what do you have for us this [1:37:05] evening? [1:37:11] » Um [1:37:13] I want to thank city staff for all they [1:37:15] did for the 4th of July. I think that, [1:37:17] you know, to echo what Todd was saying, [1:37:19] um [1:37:20] I really felt like that was us coming [1:37:22] into a little bit more of our [1:37:23] independence. I'm very proud where we've [1:37:25] come. We've, you know, we've tackled [1:37:27] some hard expenses and some tough [1:37:30] choices, but I feel like us hosting that [1:37:33] great event, and it was a good turnout [1:37:35] even though it was really hot, and all [1:37:36] of our um citizens coming together, and [1:37:39] um all of our staff working really hard [1:37:41] that day, it was just it it gave me a [1:37:43] sense of pride that what we're doing up [1:37:45] here is changing things and really [1:37:46] matters. So, um I appreciate everybody [1:37:49] and I hope you guys feel the same way. [1:37:51] Um a couple of things from my joint [1:37:53] commission meeting. Uh Summer at Selu [1:37:56] has been going on. Um they have a couple [1:38:00] more dates left. I wrote it down. [1:38:04] Hold on. [1:38:07] Uh 725 from 9:00 to 5:00 and then 8:07 [1:38:11] from 11:00 to 2:00 is open to the [1:38:12] public, so you can [1:38:14] paint, you can picnic, you can hike and [1:38:16] fish and um float and meditate or [1:38:19] whatever you would like to do. It's a [1:38:21] great space that's available for [1:38:23] community to go and use on those dates [1:38:24] and times, so I encourage you to go do [1:38:26] that. Um we are still working through uh [1:38:30] the 5-year strategic plan and giving [1:38:32] recommendations and and looking at that, [1:38:34] so that's something that I feel like [1:38:36] will help uh the city and and the [1:38:38] university. Um [1:38:41] community impact report is something [1:38:42] else that we're working on that will be [1:38:44] coming our way that I'll share with you [1:38:45] more as it comes about. Community Fest [1:38:48] is something that is coming up next [1:38:50] month that we're very excited about. Um [1:38:53] it's on the 22nd. Uh I think we have 23 [1:38:57] vendors [1:38:59] uh available left or no? There's 110 [1:39:02] available and there's 23 left? [1:39:04] >> Correct. [1:39:05] >> Okay, sorry. [1:39:06] I was writing notes furiously cuz I was [1:39:08] so excited wanting to listen. Uh seven [1:39:10] food trucks, we have a new logo uh [1:39:13] mentioning our heart, which is very very [1:39:15] cool, heart and hands. Um [1:39:17] there is a website if you would like to [1:39:19] volunteer. This event um is happens [1:39:22] because of volunteers. There's usually [1:39:23] about 100, so if you'd like to [1:39:25] volunteer, um please go to the website [1:39:27] or the Facebook page. [1:39:29] And the city website also I think has a [1:39:31] link to it as well. [1:39:33] Uh congratulate um Radford University on [1:39:36] their second year at winning the [1:39:37] Adventure College, so that's really [1:39:39] great for for [1:39:40] Really good tourism thing for us, so um [1:39:43] you know, we're living um where the [1:39:46] adventure is, and that brings a lot of [1:39:48] um highlight to our community, so I [1:39:50] think that was great. [1:39:52] Uh enrollment is looking flat, so that's [1:39:55] also good. Um [1:40:00] What else do we have? Uh we talked about [1:40:02] the mobile health clinic, which we've looked at. Thank you very much for [1:40:05] everything you guys are doing there. [1:40:06] That sounds like a really um great [1:40:07] opportunity for everyone involved. [1:40:10] Uh National Trails Day went well. Um [1:40:14] it surprised me that there was 74% [1:40:16] community members there, so that was [1:40:17] really great thing that our local [1:40:19] community went out and celebrated, so [1:40:20] that was really good for us. [1:40:22] Um Eric Plummer, who is the chief at RU, [1:40:26] has written three books. If you'd like [1:40:27] to read about his accomplishment [1:40:29] accomplishments, they're called Crisis [1:40:31] Through the Door, Crisis at the Top, and [1:40:33] then a new one uh called Crisis in the [1:40:37] Shadows. So, if you'd like to pick up a [1:40:38] summer read that's by a local artist, [1:40:40] you could do that. [1:40:43] And [1:40:45] I think that's about it. [1:40:47] Other than that, yeah, thank you to Oh, [1:40:49] and um Sarah at the Chamber of Commerce [1:40:52] said that they have a new website. [1:40:53] They've got uh a new member database, so [1:40:56] that's great for all of our um [1:40:58] businesses around. Um I run the audit [1:41:01] department for National Bank, so I know [1:41:02] how difficult it is um [1:41:04] sending out the request list, but I'm [1:41:06] also on the back end of having to turn [1:41:08] in things. Um and so, I can't imagine [1:41:11] the laundry list of things that you guys [1:41:12] have gotten and weeded through and the [1:41:14] nitpicky seemingly questions that come [1:41:16] out of those things. Um so, I really do [1:41:18] commend you guys for getting both of [1:41:19] those done. Um I know that 28 [1:41:22] recommendations seems like a a lot just [1:41:24] out of seven areas. Um but I want to [1:41:27] stress that those are all good ideas for [1:41:29] us that we don't have to implement them [1:41:31] all. They're just good tools for us to, [1:41:34] you know, be able to look at things from [1:41:35] a different perspective. Um [1:41:37] So, I'm I'm proud that we're getting [1:41:39] that information and we can add it to [1:41:40] our already um, you know, six sigmaing [1:41:44] and and looking at all the departments [1:41:46] and kudos to the department managers for [1:41:48] um, stepping up and looking at things [1:41:50] differently and accomplishing more with [1:41:51] less. I think that's great. So I think [1:41:54] all in all it'll be good even though it [1:41:55] sounds [1:41:56] terrible right now, that number that he [1:41:58] said. It's I wouldn't take it that way [1:42:00] anyone citizens or or city employees. [1:42:03] They're all good recommendations that we [1:42:04] can definitely [1:42:06] improve on. So [1:42:07] I'm just proud of everything that we're [1:42:09] doing and moving forward. [1:42:11] >> Thank you, Kelly. Jesse, what do you [1:42:13] have? [1:42:14] >> Um, I attended an amphitheater meeting [1:42:17] and we are so very close. We have the [1:42:20] renderings now and we're just kind of [1:42:23] deciding the details like where the [1:42:25] bathrooms and food trucks are going to [1:42:26] be. So we are very very close to seeing [1:42:29] a very nice amphitheater in Radford on [1:42:32] the water and I want to thank our [1:42:34] partners at RU for making that a reality [1:42:37] for us. I had a department of social [1:42:39] services meeting, a CPMT meeting [1:42:43] and [1:42:45] a slight [1:42:47] tragic mishap at my house that I want to [1:42:49] thank the community for helping me [1:42:51] overcome. I was on vacation and two of [1:42:53] my dogs got out. Actually, I only have [1:42:56] two dogs and both of them ran away. Um, [1:42:59] I was just so very impressed by how the [1:43:01] community came together to help me find [1:43:03] them and I just want to thank everybody [1:43:05] that went out and on foot, drones. [1:43:09] Luckily, they were both found safely. [1:43:11] One ended up in jail with Adele. So I'd [1:43:13] like to thank Adele for her help in [1:43:16] helping me get that rascal home, but I [1:43:19] was so moved. I was actually moved to [1:43:20] tears. I was literally halfway across [1:43:23] the world when this happened and the [1:43:26] support that I got from the community [1:43:27] just reminded me of why I choose this [1:43:30] place to be my home. So thank you again [1:43:32] to everyone for that. [1:43:34] We were mentioning um Airmid Z and I [1:43:38] know that they have offered us an air [1:43:40] purifier in the past. So, we need to [1:43:42] follow up on that because they really [1:43:44] >> in. [1:43:44] >> Right. Um and so, [1:43:47] here I go again, corporate visits. You [1:43:50] know I'm going to say our business site [1:43:52] visits. We really need to get those [1:43:54] going again because through those [1:43:56] conversations, we were able to have [1:43:58] conversations with Airmid Z where [1:44:00] they're like, "We want to give you an [1:44:01] air purifier. We want you to see how it [1:44:03] works. We want to educate the community [1:44:05] on it." So, if we could get those back, [1:44:07] I would love to see those going again. [1:44:10] Uh and remind everyone that we have the [1:44:12] Mary Draper Ingles Festival, July 24th [1:44:14] through the 26th. We hope to see [1:44:16] everyone out there. It should be a lot [1:44:18] of fun. It is every year. And a lot of [1:44:20] work goes behind um the scenes for that. [1:44:23] So, thank you to the Heritage Foundation [1:44:25] for working so diligently to make sure [1:44:27] that that is [1:44:29] um so popular every year. We get people [1:44:31] from literally all over the world have [1:44:33] showed up for this event. And also, a [1:44:36] little note on the 4th, I was able to [1:44:39] visit some local businesses and I made a [1:44:41] point just to go up and down Main Street [1:44:43] a couple times and our little city [1:44:45] really came alive. So, we were out [1:44:48] supporting not only the anniversary of [1:44:51] our country, but also just supporting [1:44:54] one another and our our businesses. So, [1:44:57] we need to absolutely do more of that [1:45:00] whenever we can. Build it, they will [1:45:01] come. This community shows up. So, thank [1:45:04] you to everyone who come out to make [1:45:05] that a success and work behind the [1:45:07] scenes to make that a success. And [1:45:09] that's all I have, Mayor. [1:45:10] >> Very good. Thank you. Seth, what do you [1:45:11] have? [1:45:12] >> Yeah, I'll I'll tie into that and just [1:45:13] thank everyone from the Parks and Rec, [1:45:15] Public Works, Fire and EMS. I mean, the [1:45:18] whole list. It literally takes pretty [1:45:20] much every department to make the [1:45:22] uh this year's July 3rd event um go. So, [1:45:25] you know, it was a hot day, but the [1:45:27] fireworks were absolutely great. It was good to see us come alive, and I [1:45:31] agree with Jesse. I [1:45:33] looking around town, there was a lot of [1:45:34] people out and about, and it was great [1:45:35] day for the community. Hopefully, some [1:45:37] of our businesses um made some money, [1:45:39] and I think that a lot of a lot of [1:45:40] memories were made, and it was uh it was [1:45:42] a hopeful day. So, I was glad to see [1:45:44] that. It was a good day for Radford. Um [1:45:47] one thing that that Todd I was going to [1:45:48] ask for an update on is the HVAC upgrade [1:45:51] in the um in the municipal building. Do [1:45:55] we have it? And the reason I'm asking is [1:45:56] if there are if we do have to move [1:45:58] anybody around for courts or the voting [1:46:01] or anything like that, do we have a [1:46:02] strategic plan in place, or how What's [1:46:04] the timeline looking like for that? [1:46:06] >> As far as the the strategic plan, I do [1:46:08] not have that. It doesn't mean that we [1:46:10] don't have one. I just can't speak to it [1:46:12] right now. [1:46:13] Um [1:46:14] it's my understanding that that project [1:46:15] should be taking place when we get on [1:46:17] their schedule. We would like to do it [1:46:18] when it's more moderate temperatures. If [1:46:21] we can get that done in like October, [1:46:23] around that time frame, it would be best [1:46:24] for the city, but ultimately, we're sort [1:46:26] of at the mercy of of the HVAC company, [1:46:29] as well. [1:46:29] >> Yeah. That No, that makes sense. I I I [1:46:31] agree with you. I think fall would [1:46:32] probably be ideal if we were able to do [1:46:34] it. Thank you. [1:46:36] Um also wanted to thank Melissa and and [1:46:38] all the other um planning commission um [1:46:40] members cuz it has been a long and [1:46:41] tedious process on our uh zoning [1:46:44] rewrite, and we're we're getting very [1:46:45] close, and so I just wanted to Melissa, [1:46:47] I know that it's been been quite yeah, [1:46:50] several years, and so I appreciate her [1:46:53] efforts, as well as all the other [1:46:54] planning commission members, because it [1:46:56] has and and Affi from [1:46:58] um being able to help us. It's it's [1:47:00] definitely been a long process, but [1:47:02] we're getting near the end. And then [1:47:03] Todd, I I I appreciate the uh update. I [1:47:06] won't There'll be much to say about that [1:47:08] in the future, and and where we're [1:47:10] going, and [1:47:11] um or where we've been, and where we're [1:47:13] we have headed, but it it was nice um to [1:47:16] see us make some measurable progress. Um [1:47:18] it's been a tough road to hoe, and [1:47:20] there's still a I mean, you can see [1:47:22] tonight, there's still tough decisions [1:47:23] and conversations to be had because [1:47:25] we're not out of the woods yet, and we [1:47:27] have to stay disciplined. Um fatigue [1:47:29] can't set in. Uh we do have some [1:47:31] measured progress, but we have a lot of [1:47:33] work to do. But I have been very [1:47:35] encouraged by the buy-in and the pride [1:47:38] of some of our um department heads, a [1:47:40] lot of our staff, cuz that culture can [1:47:42] be contagious. And to see that starting [1:47:44] to take root is um encouraging for [1:47:47] Radford's future, and I think you're [1:47:48] doing a great job cultivating that. And [1:47:51] again, it it's very encouraging [1:47:53] from six payments to two payments is is [1:47:56] measurable progress, and I want to thank [1:47:58] our finance department. I want to thank [1:48:00] both of you guys and and every the whole [1:48:03] It's taken a lot to get there, and we [1:48:04] have a long way to go. And I do think [1:48:06] it's important to to take time to [1:48:08] acknowledge that, but then it's, you [1:48:09] know, roll your sleeves up, back to [1:48:11] work, cuz we do still have a long way to [1:48:12] go. So, I just want to thank everybody's [1:48:14] efforts, and um yeah, that's it. Thank [1:48:17] you. [1:48:17] >> Thanks, Seth. Guy, what do you have? [1:48:19] >> Well, I'm not going to take time to [1:48:20] reiterate everything that everybody else [1:48:22] has said, but I did want to bring up the [1:48:25] July 3rd event down at the park. Uh my [1:48:28] wife and I spent the whole time down [1:48:30] there. It was good to to be back down [1:48:32] there. I thought the the band wasn't [1:48:35] like [1:48:36] uh J- uh Fortune, but you know, they [1:48:38] were a good band. They played my kind of [1:48:40] music, and and I enjoyed it. And I [1:48:42] wanted to mention uh Charlie Gowins, of [1:48:45] course, is the director, but I think [1:48:46] Donna Wolfe was the coordinator and and [1:48:49] the [1:48:50] head honcho on that thing, and I just [1:48:52] appreciate the the good job that she [1:48:53] did. And and I think everybody enjoyed [1:48:56] it and liked seeing it happen again. So, [1:48:58] I hope it's on a new roll. That's all I [1:49:01] have. [1:49:01] >> Thanks, Guy. And I I'll reiterate that [1:49:03] as well. I wanted to say Charlie did a [1:49:05] great job leading the effort along with [1:49:07] Donna doing the work, as well as the [1:49:08] whole staff. There was a tremendous [1:49:10] amount of work to pull off that event. [1:49:12] It was absolutely wonderful. Uh you [1:49:14] know, July 4th [1:49:16] semi-quincentennial weekend celebration [1:49:19] is a central part of the city and [1:49:21] everybody did a wonderful job. The [1:49:22] fireworks were fantastic and that was [1:49:24] fabulous. [1:49:26] Um [1:49:27] just a couple of thoughts. So, since we [1:49:29] last met, there was an article that [1:49:31] appeared in several of the local media [1:49:35] talking about how we got where we are. [1:49:38] It was an opinion piece and and where we [1:49:40] are and what might happen. And there was [1:49:41] a discussion about Radford's future. [1:49:44] Would we be better off as a county? What [1:49:46] would the tax rate look like? I [1:49:47] appreciate all the opinion pieces that [1:49:49] are shared and then the thoughts that [1:49:51] everybody has because I think it's good [1:49:53] for us to have these discussions. [1:49:56] point as I I speak to this a little bit, [1:49:59] nobody really knows exactly what things [1:50:02] would look like should Radford, say, [1:50:04] decide to revert to town status, ask to [1:50:07] join a county. That's a negotiated [1:50:09] process. So, you can't really say it's [1:50:13] 10 cents of a tax, 20 cents of a tax, a [1:50:15] dollar of a tax. You don't know. And you [1:50:18] don't know if every debt that the city [1:50:21] has would be taken on by a county and [1:50:24] that some of the debt could be left with [1:50:25] the town. So, you'd have to service [1:50:27] that. I will say there were some very [1:50:29] good points to the article that I I [1:50:31] wanted to highlight that this is [1:50:34] one piece of a very, very long process [1:50:38] that goes back many decades where [1:50:41] the city has been working through a lot [1:50:43] of challenges as our economy changed, as [1:50:46] we shifted away from some of our [1:50:49] manufacturing base that existed. We [1:50:51] still have amazing manufacturing in [1:50:53] Radford. It's wonderful that we're [1:50:54] talking about Aeroseal this evening. [1:50:56] That's one of the world leaders in air [1:50:58] purification and engine motors. [1:51:00] You you look at the same with Regal [1:51:02] Rexnord, Kollmorgen, and they're such a [1:51:05] leader in motion control. They're [1:51:06] wonderful things that happen, but it is [1:51:08] good to reflect on the fact that the [1:51:10] city has really changed significantly in [1:51:13] the last 40 or 50 years and those [1:51:15] changes have resulted in some of the [1:51:17] structural issues that we have as a [1:51:19] community. Working to address those is [1:51:22] no small task and I think this council [1:51:25] has spent a tremendous amount of time [1:51:27] working with staff, working with [1:51:29] everybody in the community who could [1:51:31] work together to find a pathway to [1:51:34] solutions. We had hoped to have an [1:51:36] economic development update tonight. We [1:51:38] had to push that off till August because [1:51:40] there's a few things that we're trying [1:51:41] to get together, but in August we do [1:51:43] plan to have that discussion. And [1:51:45] there's room for a lot of hope in the [1:51:47] city. There's a lot that's going to be [1:51:49] happening in the last 6 months of 2026 [1:51:52] and the first 6 months of 2027 that [1:51:55] should be moving us forward. That [1:51:56] economic development is a key factor so [1:51:59] that we're not just talking about real [1:52:02] estate tax. We're not just talking about [1:52:04] fees. We're talking about a total [1:52:06] picture that can allow this city to [1:52:07] thrive. You've heard from several folks [1:52:10] about the tourism piece just like the [1:52:12] semi quincentennial weekend with July [1:52:14] 3rd and 4th. That is a tremendous [1:52:17] opportunity for the city. Working with [1:52:19] the amphitheater project, working with [1:52:21] the riverfront and adventure activities. [1:52:24] The path is there for the city. We just [1:52:26] have to fully take advantage of it and move forward. I want to say so much [1:52:30] progress has been made with the Munis [1:52:32] update and we're really appreciative of [1:52:34] Todd and our entire IT team. Very [1:52:37] appreciative of our treasurer for all [1:52:39] the work that she's done with that. [1:52:41] has been a major issue for the city [1:52:44] for at least 15 years and more like [1:52:47] decades and I think that's a huge issue [1:52:50] that once that is completed, that is [1:52:53] moving quite a big mountain. Now, we're [1:52:55] not done yet. We're almost there and [1:52:57] we'll have a an announcement for you [1:52:58] when that is complete and an update. Um, [1:53:01] you know, Joy is doing a great job in [1:53:03] the treasurer's office and we thank you [1:53:04] for that. Kelsey, you're doing a [1:53:06] fantastic job in the Commissioner of [1:53:07] Revenues office. There's so much about [1:53:10] taxation that we have to try to [1:53:12] understand as a locality, and it's [1:53:14] really important that we up here on [1:53:16] Council get good information so that we [1:53:18] can make the best possible decision. And [1:53:21] it's not as simple as, "Well, what [1:53:22] should the rate be?" There's a whole lot [1:53:24] of factors that come into play about how [1:53:26] you collect it and and what that does to [1:53:28] a business or an individual. And so, I [1:53:31] think that's a big part of where we are. [1:53:32] I wanted to explain my vote a little bit [1:53:35] tonight on the 1% referendum. [1:53:38] I feel like Radford has got so many [1:53:40] moving parts. We're just not ready to [1:53:42] move forward with that referendum. Now, [1:53:43] it has passed, and Council has approved [1:53:46] it, and this is just David speaking to [1:53:48] you in the community, but I think it is [1:53:50] important that we look at ourselves [1:53:51] holistically and really examine what [1:53:54] taxes are we charging and why, are we [1:53:57] getting to our fiscal sustainability, [1:53:59] and what are our liabilities, and how do [1:54:01] we work on that. All of that has to be [1:54:03] pulled together because those are all [1:54:05] dollars that impact all of us. You know, [1:54:08] and I recognize that. I want to say this [1:54:10] progress we've made is incredibly [1:54:12] important, [1:54:13] but I want to look at the cost of that [1:54:15] progress, too. For the city employees [1:54:17] who stepped up and done extra work, [1:54:19] often times for no no additional pay, or [1:54:22] worked really hard to reimagine their [1:54:24] areas to do more with less, that is a [1:54:27] tremendous burden, and we are so [1:54:28] thankful for you for doing that. The [1:54:30] ball has not been dropped in this [1:54:32] community with all of those efficiencies [1:54:34] that have been found, and we're so [1:54:36] appreciative that people have stepped up [1:54:38] to do that. Um, I do think that the [1:54:41] citizens of this city are to be [1:54:42] commended for their support. The taxes, [1:54:45] the fees, it's so difficult, but it's [1:54:48] what gets us in a position to be [1:54:50] stronger. [1:54:51] The issue is the options that are there [1:54:53] if we don't do those things are so much [1:54:55] worse and could be so much more [1:54:57] expensive, and what we lose is so much [1:55:00] more um expensive than the trying to [1:55:04] find the savings where we can. So, [1:55:05] everybody's working really hard and the [1:55:07] good news is positive things are [1:55:08] happening. We do have much more to say [1:55:10] as we move forward and we will continue [1:55:12] to talk about the wonderful things going [1:55:14] on in Radford. We do need to go into a [1:55:17] closed session tonight to discuss some [1:55:19] things. So, we're going to take a pause [1:55:21] to do that and Seth, if you will take us [1:55:23] into closed session, then we'll be back [1:55:25] after a quick discussion and go from [1:55:27] there. [1:55:27] >> I'd like to make a motion [1:55:30] to convene a closed meeting for [1:55:32] discussion or consideration of the [1:55:33] investment of public funds where [1:55:35] competition or bargaining is involved [1:55:37] where if made public initially, the [1:55:39] financial interest of the governmental [1:55:41] unit would be adversely affected. [1:55:43] Specifically to discuss electric standby [1:55:45] service tariff, contract for appraisal [1:55:47] services and solid waste services. [1:55:50] Virginia Code 2.2-3711A6. [1:55:55] Discussion, consideration or interviews [1:55:57] of prospective candidates for [1:55:58] employment, assignment, appointment, [1:56:01] promotion, performance, demotion, [1:56:03] salaries, disciplining or resignation of [1:56:05] specific public officers, appointees or [1:56:08] employees of any public body body and [1:56:10] evaluation of performance of [1:56:12] departments. Specifically to discuss [1:56:14] city managers evaluation. Virginia Code [1:56:17] 2.2-3711A1. [1:56:21] » All right, we have a motion. Do we have [1:56:22] a second? [1:56:25] » Second. [1:56:27] >> We have motion and a second. Any [1:56:28] discussion? [1:56:29] >> All in favor, please respond by saying [1:56:31] I. [1:56:31] >> I. [1:56:32] >> All right, any opposed? Well, we got to [1:56:34] go into closed session. If you