Okay, we'll call the meeting to order 5.30, right? All right. And Kelly, can you call roll please?
Yes. Commissioner Debra Polly.
Good evening.
Commissioner Fershet.
Here.
Commissioner Hewne.
Here.
Commissioner Rae Mon.
Here.
Commissioner Stoffes.
Here.
Vice Chair Stevenson.
Here.
And Chair Mulden.
Here.
Thank you, Kelly. Can you announce the meeting's video recording, please?
Tonight's meeting will be recorded via Zoom and can be viewed on the city's
website within 48 hours of adjournment of this meeting.
Thank you.
And Commissioner DeFraud is going to lead us in the pledge tonight.
All
right.
Thank you.
Members of the public wishing to address the Planning Commission for any
matter not on the agenda may do so at this time by completing and
submitting a speaker card to the Planning Commission clerk.
For items on the agenda speakers will be called by the chair at the
point on the agenda when the item will be heard.
Speakers are encouraged to keep comments to three minutes or less
and to state name and community of residence.
Under the provisions of the California government code, the planning commission is prohibited
from discussing or taking immediate action on any item not on the agenda unless it can
be demonstrated to be of an emergency nature, or the need to take immediate action arose
after the posting of the agenda.
And Kelly, can you announce public comment?
Yes.
I have one speaker card, William Bernal.
You may go to the podium.
Good.
Can I pass these out to each one of your flying gentlemen and flying ladies here
tonight. I'm a candidate for Los Rios. How many copies do you have, sir? How many copies, sir,
do you have? Okay, we'll take some and we'll have to put some at the back of the room so whenever
you bring something that has to be accessible to the public as well. So we can help you do that.
Yep. Right now, I'll take them back there. I admire Rancho Cordova. They basically carved
themselves out of Sacramento once they realized they had a financial base and taxes that was
going to support a city. I always just happened to be two blocks away when that petition came by
our house so we are now in unincorporated Sacramento. Today as a candidate for the Los
Rios Community College Board of Trustees, Area 6, I'm inspired by the same pioneering spirit
the shape Rancho Cordova. Rancho Cordova was built by dreamers and doers who believed in
the power of community. The city's recent transportation improvements are just one area
that reflects the power of community action. I'm committed to ensure that our local colleges
reflect the diversity of our communities so that through the concerted effort of community
action. We create opportunities for and provide services to everyone across the
board.
In the Rancho Cordova spirit of community, I want to listen and
collaborate creatively to build the future of our local colleges. I'm committed
to bring a detail-orientated, transparent leadership, incorporating my
experience in both the field, the field of building commercial structures with the tightest
budgets, and the boardroom finding waste and misapplication in multi-million dollar projects.
My goal is to ensure that Los Rios Community College Board of Trustees is dedicated to serving
the best interests of the students who attend colleges, parents who find their children and
teachers who dedicate their lives to instruction.
It's time for us to put our heads together to come up with creative solutions that will
move our colleges toward higher levels of achievements, more open doors for our students
and address the social, economic, and fiscal issues students are increasingly facing.
Only then can we empower future leaders to navigate tomorrow's obstacles.
My whole focus is that we can't be planning for this year's fiscal budget.
We need to be planning for 2003 and 2004 educational needs.
As you can see, AI and advanced technologies are multiplying by the day, and we're seeing
the horrors and the realities of it.
So I'm putting my hat in the ring, and I have two seconds left, I guess.
Thank you very much for listening to me, considering me as a candidate, and helping
support me to win because my opponent is an incumbent so it's tough for a new
runner to come up and win. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.
And any
additional further public comment? No, I have no additional speaker cards. Okay,
thank you. We'll move on to item four. Consent calendar items, consistent
matter is deemed routine and non-controversial by staff, unless a member of the Planning Commission wishes to pull an item for individual consideration, all items will be approved by one motion.
Are there any items Planning Commission wishes to pull from the Consent Calendar?
And Kelly, do we have any public comment related to the Consent Calendar?
I have no speaker cards for our Consent Calendar.
Okay, thank you. We'll go ahead and close public comment.
May I have a motion to approve the Consent Calendar?
So moved.
I second that.
Thank you.
Commissioner Debra Pauley?
Yes.
Commissioner Forchette.
Aye.
Commissioner Hewne.
Aye.
Commissioner Ramon.
Aye.
Commissioner Stoss.
Aye.
Vice Chair Stevenson.
Aye.
And Chair Molden.
Yes.
Motion passes with a 7-0 vote.
Thank you.
And we have no consent public hearing items, so we'll move on to item 6.1.
And Kelly, will you announce the subject, please?
Yes.
Item 6.1, Subject Douglas 103, Major Design Review, Project Number PLND-0426-0158, Exempt
Pursuant to Section 15182, Residential Projects Pursuant to a Specific Plan of the California
Environmental Quality Act CEQA Guidelines, Located south of Douglas Road, west of Cypress
Grove Drive in approximately 145 feet east of Borderlands Drive, APN, a portion of 067-0040-026-0000.
Thank you. And Chance, do you have a staff report for us?
I do.
Thank you, Kelly. Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. Glad to see you for the second
time this month. Yeah, Chance Finley with the city's planning division. I'll be presenting the
Douglas 103 major designer view for single-family detached lots. All right, let's hop into it.
So, yeah, the applicant is requesting a major designer view for 998 single-family detached
homes. The project is divided into three different collections including
chartreuse, sage, and clover. Across those three collections there are ten floor
plans ranging from approximately 1,700 to 3,200 square feet. The project
includes both one and two-story homes and four architectural styles including
including Spanish, Ranch, Prairie, and Farmer House.
For the project location, as shown in the green areas up here, Douglas 103 is located
south of Douglas Road, west of Cypress Grove Drive, and east of Borderlands Drive.
The project is part of the larger residential development occurring within and around the
Sunridge Pacific Plan and is located to the north of Grant Line 208 and Grant Line
220 and south of the preserve, which are also Linnar communities that have recently been
built or are in the process of getting built.
The site will also be divided by the future of Air Conos Boulevard.
You can see it going through the mill there.
For general plan and zoning consistency, the project is located within the Sunridge
specific plan and is designated for RD5 and RD10 residential developments, which
which is consistent with the type of development contemplated by the specific plan.
The subdivision and associated development standards were previously established through
the applicable approvals, including the tentative map.
And tonight's measure design review is focused primarily on the design of the homes that
are going to be going there.
So as I mentioned, this site is organized into three product collections that are
shown here.
We have chartreuse on the right there in blue that includes four plans on approximately 40
by 90 foot lots with homes ranging from approximately 1,700 to 2,400 square feet.
Sage includes three plans on approximately 45 by 90 foot lots ranging from approximately
2,000 to 2,400 square feet, that's going to be the one green down there to the south.
And Clover is the largest of the lots and that's going to be 65 by 110 foot lots.
And it includes three plans ranging from approximately 2,500 to 3,200 square feet.
This is one that also includes a single story or plan.
So, getting into the design of the homes, staff focus much of our view and worked with
the applicant on architectural variety and ensuring that the publicly visible elevations
have plenty of articulation.
The project provides multiple styles, colors, and materials, and we've also added requirements
for material returns and limitations on adjacent three car garages as you see in
the Clover community.
Overall, staff believes that the combination
of these elements provides an appropriate level
of architectural variety and streetscape interest.
There was also a preliminary landscape plan
that was submitted for the three product collections,
which include a variety of trees and shrubs
and ground cover intended to complement the homes
and provide additional visual interest
along the street frontage.
Staff also reviewed the proposed landscaping in relation to the relatively small lot sizes in Sage and Chartreuse
to make sure that the proposed plantings are appropriate for the available space.
For environmental review, the project would be exempt pursuant to Section 15182.
That's going to be for your residential projects pursuant to a specific plan.
Again, the Sunridge specific plan was previously evaluated through the environmental impact report that was previously certified.
And Douglas 103 is consistent with the residential development that was contemplated during this EIR review. So therefore, it complies with 15182 and a sequel review is not required.
So with that, staff is recommending that the planning commission determine the project exempt from CEQA per 15182 and adopt the resolution approving the major designer view for Douglas 103.
Project number PLND-04266-0158 approval would be subject to the findings, project plans, and conditions of approval attached to this.
And that concludes my presentation. I'm available and Afghan is also here from one hour.
Great. Thank you chance.
We'll go ahead and open the public hearing period and Kelly is there any public comment.
I have no public or speaker cards for this item.
Okay. Public hearing is now closed.
Commission comments and questions.
questions.
I don't have anything.
I had just one question, but I think going through the presentation I've
figured it out, but I'm just going to read it because I wrote it down. With the TIDER
side yard setbacks and short truce and sage, how did staff evaluate how those lots will
function for residents, particularly for like access, utility, just because I was reading
that there's like six feet between the two homes? Yeah, yes, good question. So just
I just wanted to get a better understanding it wasn't as clear.
Yeah, so these setbacks were approved about, I don't want to say like a decade ago, in the tentative map for this.
So when we get a major design review like this where they're just going to be building a structure on top of these lots that already have standards approved for them.
We're really just looking to make sure that they are going to be meeting the setbacks that were approved.
I mean, they have already kind of inherited those setbacks that were approved a while ago.
We do typically require a fit list, which is what the applicant has provided us, and
it shows that at least one plan type can fit on each of those lots with enough access to
go from the front to the back, which is where most of your open space activities
can be happening.
And I think it just wasn't, when I was going through, it wasn't as clear, so
thank you.
Yeah, I appreciate that of course
No questions or comments here
well
there's always been the
The one comment that keeps coming up and I noticed that hasn't really been addressed on this one is the length of the driveways
I wasn't gonna say it. I know but it's a valid point
And I just wonder why we don't push the house back two feet to get that little extra driveway that can support a work
vehicle event a work van service truck, etc
Regardless, that's a minor thing in the big picture.
I reviewed everything and I don't see a problem with it.
Just to add to that, there will be options.
I mean, not every single house is going to be at exactly 19-foot driveways.
I think I typically have a similar response.
So hopefully you can bear with the similar response.
But not every house is going to have a 19-foot driveway.
There's going to be options for different size driveways.
there's going to be different size lots. So if someone's got like a big truck and they want to buy
one of the homes, typically they're going to have a selection that isn't just the 19 foot. So
the buyer has the option to push it back, move things around a little bit?
Well, they can buy a lot that has a home that's going to be set in a specific spot.
Okay.
So it's not always going to be at 19 foot exactly. That's just the minimum that the
developer needs to meet for our standards. Thank you.
Public comment period is closed, I apologize.
Okay. It's my turn. I have a couple of small suggestions.
Regarding the roof, I see they're not using tiles anymore.
Is it because of cost-effective thing or is it?
Basically, I see tiles have better quality and look also, tiles looks good.
But it seems like Lennard decided to go with shingles.
Is there a reason?
I mean, can we ask?
Oh, sure.
Did you want to ask both questions at once, or – and I can call the applicant up.
That's more of an applicant question.
Okay.
Yeah.
If you – someone from Lennard can come up and answer that question.
Good
evening, Pierre Martinez with Linnar.
It is a cost savings for Linnar as a builder.
We transition to comp roofs.
I think at the Preserver Project we had more historically gone with tile roofs, but we're
trying to keep homes at a price point that buyers can get into, especially in this community
with the majority of the home sites being in the sage and chartreuse smaller size, it's
even more important to try to keep that cost level where entry level buyers and people looking
for smaller homes can get in.
Okay.
Is it, how long is going to stay?
I mean, tiles, I heard it's a life expectancy that on 50 years, something like that.
I believe the comp roofs have a 30 year warranty.
Okay.
And
one more thing I identified is the ceiling height within the home, first floor has nine
feet and second floor has eight feet.
That is typically what we've been doing.
I don't recall off the top of my head what we're doing here, but on two-story homes that's
typically what we do.
Yeah, last four years I'm noticing it, Leonard building like that.
Previously, I saw homes having 10 feet height for the floor, second floor as nine, nine and a half.
Yeah, and that's typically reserved for kind of the higher end, larger homes.
Again, it is part of cost savings.
I don't recall specifically off the top of my head what these particular homes are, but 10 foot is not very common.
and it's kind of a luxury in type home once you get over nine.
Yeah, these ones are generally a nine foot
on the bottom and eight foot on the top.
Yeah, I saw one of the home, I mean,
I feel like the cluster four week,
I mean, somewhere I boxed it out in that home
and it's eight feet.
Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree,
it can feel a little bit smaller when you get in,
but I always truly believe there's a home for everybody, and so we try to, you know,
design something for, you know, the buyer that we're expecting to be able to afford
a particular home, you know, in a community, and so we're very cost-conscious with that.
And we also have to be competitive with our competitors, so it's not,
you know, really much different than our competitors.
Okay, and while designing it, do you guys look for how many bedrooms, how many bathrooms
you guys design?
Is there a ratio you guys follow or do you guys have any?
I mean, just generally when you look at a product line, let's say of four plans, we
do think about, okay, this is going to be 1,500 to 2,200 square feet.
And so we might start with three bedroom two bath and maybe then it's three bedroom two and a half bath
And maybe four or three bedroom with an office. So, you know, you're trying to give the buyer a
little something extra for the extra square footage that they're getting so yeah, there's a
Thought process that we go through to make sure that you know, there's value for the buyer as they step up
In home size. Yeah, because one of the home you guys have planned six bedroom three bath
I mean, is that sufficient because five bedrooms in the second floor first floor has one bedroom and bath
I don't know whether that is sufficient for five bedrooms to bath, right? Well, it's our job to sell them
So when when our sales team says, you know, we have a market for something like this, you know, then we try to
accommodate as we as we can, you know, and if it doesn't sell well, then we may not use that plan again.
Interesting.
Yeah, that's okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, thank you. Thank you.
You could ask him later.
Do we have a motion on this item?
I move to read it out.
Oh gosh, I have to read it.
Oh, gosh. Okay. Hold on. Okay.
Just so you make the staff recommendation.
Thank you. I move to, I make a motion to move for the staff recommendation.
Determine that project. I'm going to read it. Determine the project exempt per section 15182 residential projects pursuant to a specific plan of the SEACA guidelines and adopt the resolution
approving the major design review for Douglas 103.
I'll second.
Thank you.
Commissioner Debra Pauley.
Yes.
Commissioner Forchette.
Aye.
Commissioner Hewne.
Aye.
Commissioner Ramon.
Aye.
Commissioner Stas.
Aye.
Vice Chair Stevenson.
Aye.
And Chair Maldon.
Yes.
Motion passes with a 7-0 vote.
Thank you, Karen.
All right. Item 7, Planning Commission comments, ideas, questions.
Started this end?
I don't have any.
Well,
I got to get staff credit for trying to make this September 30th meeting work,
and I apologize that I'm just not going to be able to make it to that one.
I'm a stickler for making meetings, but I apologize for that one.
Well, back to school, so happy that that's going down.
My daughter is at senior year in Cordova and then my son is in the seventh grade at Mitchell, so they are busy during the day now.
So thank God for that and everything else is good.
Hey, cheers to that. I also have a seventh grader and a freshman and a senior.
So, yes, I'll just mention, I don't know if anyone saw the council meeting last night,
but the city is looking to purchase two empty office buildings to put a community center
in.
So, if you get a chance to review that, that's an exciting thing that's coming.
So, that's it for you.
Nothing from me?
I'd like to thank Commissioner Hewn for picking up the torch on the short drive
Hopefully someday we will figure out a way to solve that problem.
You drive down the street in my neighborhood, you see what an impact it really does have.
Other than that, it's, I don't know what to do, two meetings in one month.
That's kind of,
oh, we now have 150 screaming kids
active out at the mine shaft as we're getting ready for this year's rendition
of Heartstoppers. Tickets will go on sale next month. Come on out and scream for a
cause. It's quite a operation out there with all those kids.
Well I'd like to be
one to say I'm really happy all your kids are back to school because now I'm
stuck in that traffic again. But no that's great it's always good to see
the kids back. I would like to congratulate Elliot on his candidacy so it doesn't sound
like he's going to run opposed. The main thing I want to say is this weekend was kind of
an eye-opener for me. My son was in the hawkfire evacuation zone up in Reno and it just triggered
for me that we all need to be prepared. So have your go boxes ready. Think about
now what you really need to take in the event of an emergency. Luckily he's kind
a young in his life and he didn't have a whole lot of stuff that was critical, but I know
I have a lot. So just it really brought that to the forefront for me and I living here haven't
been through the app going off like you're in the go and you're no go evacuate don't
evacuate was a little stressful Saturday and Sunday for me, but all is well and everybody's
healthy and safe. So just think about fire preparedness as we enter into the fall.
That's all I have.
Love it.
Great safety tip.
And Arlene, do you have your planning manager report for us?
Yes.
Nothing too major.
Just a reminder, there's a Good Neighbor Day happening next month on the 17th at Countryside
Park and also in October, October 14th in Gold Rush Park.
So that'll be kind of, you'll see a community engagement out there along with city staff
and other partner agencies.
It's always a fun time.
I enjoy doing it, especially the Halloween one is my favorite one.
So, yeah, so hopefully we'll see some of the planning commissioners there.
And then also we will be getting busy.
So it just heads up to everybody.
I know things are picking up on the development side.
And so we will be, you know, getting busy.
So yeah, again, if you have any questions, just please reach out.
I am always accessible via text.
I'm a massive texture as you've already figured out.
But it's the best way to get ahold of me because I'm always in a meeting when we are another so so that's all here
Thank you. Great. Thank you so much. All right with that. We'll adjourn at 5.58 tonight
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