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Okay, we'll call the meeting to order 5.30, right? All right. And Kelly, can you call roll please?

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Yes. Commissioner Debra Polly.

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Good evening.

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Commissioner Fershet.

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Here.

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Commissioner Hewne.

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Here.

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Commissioner Rae Mon.

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Commissioner Stoffes.

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Here.

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Vice Chair Stevenson.

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Here.

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And Chair Mulden.

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Here.

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Thank you, Kelly. Can you announce the meeting's video recording, please?

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Tonight's meeting will be recorded via Zoom and can be viewed on the city's

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website within 48 hours of adjournment of this meeting.

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Thank you.

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And Commissioner DeFraud is going to lead us in the pledge tonight.

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Thank you.

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Members of the public wishing to address the Planning Commission for any

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matter not on the agenda may do so at this time by completing and

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submitting a speaker card to the Planning Commission clerk.

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and to state name and community of residence.

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from discussing or taking immediate action on any item not on the agenda unless it can

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be demonstrated to be of an emergency nature, or the need to take immediate action arose

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And Kelly, can you announce public comment?

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Yes.

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I have one speaker card, William Bernal.

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You may go to the podium.

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Good.

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Can I pass these out to each one of your flying gentlemen and flying ladies here

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tonight. I'm a candidate for Los Rios. How many copies do you have, sir? How many copies, sir,

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do you have? Okay, we'll take some and we'll have to put some at the back of the room so whenever

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you bring something that has to be accessible to the public as well. So we can help you do that.

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Yep. Right now, I'll take them back there. I admire Rancho Cordova. They basically carved

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themselves out of Sacramento once they realized they had a financial base and taxes that was

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going to support a city. I always just happened to be two blocks away when that petition came by

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our house so we are now in unincorporated Sacramento. Today as a candidate for the Los

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Rios Community College Board of Trustees, Area 6, I'm inspired by the same pioneering spirit

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the shape Rancho Cordova. Rancho Cordova was built by dreamers and doers who believed in

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the power of community. The city's recent transportation improvements are just one area

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that reflects the power of community action. I'm committed to ensure that our local colleges

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reflect the diversity of our communities so that through the concerted effort of community

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action. We create opportunities for and provide services to everyone across the

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board.

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In the Rancho Cordova spirit of community, I want to listen and

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collaborate creatively to build the future of our local colleges. I'm committed

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to bring a detail-orientated, transparent leadership, incorporating my

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experience in both the field, the field of building commercial structures with the tightest

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budgets, and the boardroom finding waste and misapplication in multi-million dollar projects.

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My goal is to ensure that Los Rios Community College Board of Trustees is dedicated to serving

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the best interests of the students who attend colleges, parents who find their children and

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teachers who dedicate their lives to instruction.

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It's time for us to put our heads together to come up with creative solutions that will

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move our colleges toward higher levels of achievements, more open doors for our students

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and address the social, economic, and fiscal issues students are increasingly facing.

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Only then can we empower future leaders to navigate tomorrow's obstacles.

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My whole focus is that we can't be planning for this year's fiscal budget.

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We need to be planning for 2003 and 2004 educational needs.

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As you can see, AI and advanced technologies are multiplying by the day, and we're seeing

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the horrors and the realities of it.

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So I'm putting my hat in the ring, and I have two seconds left, I guess.

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Thank you very much for listening to me, considering me as a candidate, and helping

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support me to win because my opponent is an incumbent so it's tough for a new

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runner to come up and win. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.

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additional further public comment? No, I have no additional speaker cards. Okay,

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thank you. We'll move on to item four. Consent calendar items, consistent

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matter is deemed routine and non-controversial by staff, unless a member of the Planning Commission wishes to pull an item for individual consideration, all items will be approved by one motion.

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Are there any items Planning Commission wishes to pull from the Consent Calendar?

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And Kelly, do we have any public comment related to the Consent Calendar?

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I have no speaker cards for our Consent Calendar.

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Okay, thank you. We'll go ahead and close public comment.

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May I have a motion to approve the Consent Calendar?

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So moved.

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I second that.

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Commissioner Debra Pauley?

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Commissioner Forchette.

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Commissioner Hewne.

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Commissioner Ramon.

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Commissioner Stoss.

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Vice Chair Stevenson.

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And Chair Molden.

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Motion passes with a 7-0 vote.

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And we have no consent public hearing items, so we'll move on to item 6.1.

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And Kelly, will you announce the subject, please?

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Item 6.1, Subject Douglas 103, Major Design Review, Project Number PLND-0426-0158, Exempt

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Pursuant to Section 15182, Residential Projects Pursuant to a Specific Plan of the California

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Environmental Quality Act CEQA Guidelines, Located south of Douglas Road, west of Cypress

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Grove Drive in approximately 145 feet east of Borderlands Drive, APN, a portion of 067-0040-026-0000.

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Thank you. And Chance, do you have a staff report for us?

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I do.

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Thank you, Kelly. Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. Glad to see you for the second

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time this month. Yeah, Chance Finley with the city's planning division. I'll be presenting the

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Douglas 103 major designer view for single-family detached lots. All right, let's hop into it.

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So, yeah, the applicant is requesting a major designer view for 998 single-family detached

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homes. The project is divided into three different collections including

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chartreuse, sage, and clover. Across those three collections there are ten floor

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plans ranging from approximately 1,700 to 3,200 square feet. The project

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includes both one and two-story homes and four architectural styles including

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including Spanish, Ranch, Prairie, and Farmer House.

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For the project location, as shown in the green areas up here, Douglas 103 is located

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south of Douglas Road, west of Cypress Grove Drive, and east of Borderlands Drive.

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The project is part of the larger residential development occurring within and around the

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Sunridge Pacific Plan and is located to the north of Grant Line 208 and Grant Line

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220 and south of the preserve, which are also Linnar communities that have recently been

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built or are in the process of getting built.

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The site will also be divided by the future of Air Conos Boulevard.

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You can see it going through the mill there.

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For general plan and zoning consistency, the project is located within the Sunridge

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specific plan and is designated for RD5 and RD10 residential developments, which

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which is consistent with the type of development contemplated by the specific plan.

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The subdivision and associated development standards were previously established through

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the applicable approvals, including the tentative map.

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And tonight's measure design review is focused primarily on the design of the homes that

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are going to be going there.

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So as I mentioned, this site is organized into three product collections that are

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shown here.

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We have chartreuse on the right there in blue that includes four plans on approximately 40

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by 90 foot lots with homes ranging from approximately 1,700 to 2,400 square feet.

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Sage includes three plans on approximately 45 by 90 foot lots ranging from approximately

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2,000 to 2,400 square feet, that's going to be the one green down there to the south.

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And Clover is the largest of the lots and that's going to be 65 by 110 foot lots.

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And it includes three plans ranging from approximately 2,500 to 3,200 square feet.

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This is one that also includes a single story or plan.

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So, getting into the design of the homes, staff focus much of our view and worked with

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the applicant on architectural variety and ensuring that the publicly visible elevations

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have plenty of articulation.

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The project provides multiple styles, colors, and materials, and we've also added requirements

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for material returns and limitations on adjacent three car garages as you see in

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the Clover community.

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Overall, staff believes that the combination

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of these elements provides an appropriate level

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of architectural variety and streetscape interest.

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There was also a preliminary landscape plan

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that was submitted for the three product collections,

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which include a variety of trees and shrubs

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and ground cover intended to complement the homes

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and provide additional visual interest

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along the street frontage.

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Staff also reviewed the proposed landscaping in relation to the relatively small lot sizes in Sage and Chartreuse

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to make sure that the proposed plantings are appropriate for the available space.

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For environmental review, the project would be exempt pursuant to Section 15182.

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That's going to be for your residential projects pursuant to a specific plan.

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Again, the Sunridge specific plan was previously evaluated through the environmental impact report that was previously certified.

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And Douglas 103 is consistent with the residential development that was contemplated during this EIR review. So therefore, it complies with 15182 and a sequel review is not required.

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So with that, staff is recommending that the planning commission determine the project exempt from CEQA per 15182 and adopt the resolution approving the major designer view for Douglas 103.

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Project number PLND-04266-0158 approval would be subject to the findings, project plans, and conditions of approval attached to this.

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And that concludes my presentation. I'm available and Afghan is also here from one hour.

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Great. Thank you chance.

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We'll go ahead and open the public hearing period and Kelly is there any public comment.

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I have no public or speaker cards for this item.

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Okay. Public hearing is now closed.

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Commission comments and questions.

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questions.

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I don't have anything.

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I had just one question, but I think going through the presentation I've

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figured it out, but I'm just going to read it because I wrote it down. With the TIDER

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side yard setbacks and short truce and sage, how did staff evaluate how those lots will

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function for residents, particularly for like access, utility, just because I was reading

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that there's like six feet between the two homes? Yeah, yes, good question. So just

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I just wanted to get a better understanding it wasn't as clear.

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Yeah, so these setbacks were approved about, I don't want to say like a decade ago, in the tentative map for this.

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So when we get a major design review like this where they're just going to be building a structure on top of these lots that already have standards approved for them.

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We're really just looking to make sure that they are going to be meeting the setbacks that were approved.

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I mean, they have already kind of inherited those setbacks that were approved a while ago.

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We do typically require a fit list, which is what the applicant has provided us, and

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it shows that at least one plan type can fit on each of those lots with enough access to

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go from the front to the back, which is where most of your open space activities

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can be happening.

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And I think it just wasn't, when I was going through, it wasn't as clear, so

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thank you.

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Yeah, I appreciate that of course

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No questions or comments here

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there's always been the

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The one comment that keeps coming up and I noticed that hasn't really been addressed on this one is the length of the driveways

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I wasn't gonna say it. I know but it's a valid point

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And I just wonder why we don't push the house back two feet to get that little extra driveway that can support a work

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vehicle event a work van service truck, etc

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Regardless, that's a minor thing in the big picture.

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I reviewed everything and I don't see a problem with it.

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Just to add to that, there will be options.

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I mean, not every single house is going to be at exactly 19-foot driveways.

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I think I typically have a similar response.

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So hopefully you can bear with the similar response.

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But not every house is going to have a 19-foot driveway.

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There's going to be options for different size driveways.

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there's going to be different size lots. So if someone's got like a big truck and they want to buy

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one of the homes, typically they're going to have a selection that isn't just the 19 foot. So

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the buyer has the option to push it back, move things around a little bit?

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Well, they can buy a lot that has a home that's going to be set in a specific spot.

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Okay.

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So it's not always going to be at 19 foot exactly. That's just the minimum that the

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developer needs to meet for our standards. Thank you.

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Public comment period is closed, I apologize.

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Okay. It's my turn. I have a couple of small suggestions.

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Regarding the roof, I see they're not using tiles anymore.

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Is it because of cost-effective thing or is it?

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Basically, I see tiles have better quality and look also, tiles looks good.

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But it seems like Lennard decided to go with shingles.

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Is there a reason?

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I mean, can we ask?

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Oh, sure.

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Did you want to ask both questions at once, or – and I can call the applicant up.

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That's more of an applicant question.

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If you – someone from Lennard can come up and answer that question.

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Good

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evening, Pierre Martinez with Linnar.

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It is a cost savings for Linnar as a builder.

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We transition to comp roofs.

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I think at the Preserver Project we had more historically gone with tile roofs, but we're

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trying to keep homes at a price point that buyers can get into, especially in this community

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with the majority of the home sites being in the sage and chartreuse smaller size, it's

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even more important to try to keep that cost level where entry level buyers and people looking

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for smaller homes can get in.

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Okay.

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Is it, how long is going to stay?

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I mean, tiles, I heard it's a life expectancy that on 50 years, something like that.

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I believe the comp roofs have a 30 year warranty.

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Okay.

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And

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one more thing I identified is the ceiling height within the home, first floor has nine

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feet and second floor has eight feet.

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That is typically what we've been doing.

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I don't recall off the top of my head what we're doing here, but on two-story homes that's

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typically what we do.

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Yeah, last four years I'm noticing it, Leonard building like that.

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Previously, I saw homes having 10 feet height for the floor, second floor as nine, nine and a half.

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Yeah, and that's typically reserved for kind of the higher end, larger homes.

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Again, it is part of cost savings.

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I don't recall specifically off the top of my head what these particular homes are, but 10 foot is not very common.

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and it's kind of a luxury in type home once you get over nine.

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Yeah, these ones are generally a nine foot

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on the bottom and eight foot on the top.

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Yeah, I saw one of the home, I mean,

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I feel like the cluster four week,

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I mean, somewhere I boxed it out in that home

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and it's eight feet.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree,

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it can feel a little bit smaller when you get in,

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but I always truly believe there's a home for everybody, and so we try to, you know,

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design something for, you know, the buyer that we're expecting to be able to afford

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a particular home, you know, in a community, and so we're very cost-conscious with that.

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And we also have to be competitive with our competitors, so it's not,

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you know, really much different than our competitors.

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Okay, and while designing it, do you guys look for how many bedrooms, how many bathrooms

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you guys design?

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Is there a ratio you guys follow or do you guys have any?

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I mean, just generally when you look at a product line, let's say of four plans, we

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do think about, okay, this is going to be 1,500 to 2,200 square feet.

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And so we might start with three bedroom two bath and maybe then it's three bedroom two and a half bath

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And maybe four or three bedroom with an office. So, you know, you're trying to give the buyer a

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little something extra for the extra square footage that they're getting so yeah, there's a

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Thought process that we go through to make sure that you know, there's value for the buyer as they step up

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In home size. Yeah, because one of the home you guys have planned six bedroom three bath

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I mean, is that sufficient because five bedrooms in the second floor first floor has one bedroom and bath

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I don't know whether that is sufficient for five bedrooms to bath, right? Well, it's our job to sell them

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So when when our sales team says, you know, we have a market for something like this, you know, then we try to

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accommodate as we as we can, you know, and if it doesn't sell well, then we may not use that plan again.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, that's okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, thank you. Thank you.

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You could ask him later.

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Do we have a motion on this item?

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I move to read it out.

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Oh gosh, I have to read it.

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Oh, gosh. Okay. Hold on. Okay.

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Just so you make the staff recommendation.

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Thank you. I move to, I make a motion to move for the staff recommendation.

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Determine that project. I'm going to read it. Determine the project exempt per section 15182 residential projects pursuant to a specific plan of the SEACA guidelines and adopt the resolution

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approving the major design review for Douglas 103.

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I'll second.

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Thank you.

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Commissioner Debra Pauley.

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Yes.

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Commissioner Forchette.

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Aye.

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Commissioner Hewne.

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Aye.

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Commissioner Ramon.

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Aye.

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Commissioner Stas.

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Aye.

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Vice Chair Stevenson.

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Aye.

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And Chair Maldon.

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Yes.

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Motion passes with a 7-0 vote.

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Thank you, Karen.

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All right. Item 7, Planning Commission comments, ideas, questions.

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Started this end?

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I don't have any.

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Well,

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I got to get staff credit for trying to make this September 30th meeting work,

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and I apologize that I'm just not going to be able to make it to that one.

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I'm a stickler for making meetings, but I apologize for that one.

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Well, back to school, so happy that that's going down.

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My daughter is at senior year in Cordova and then my son is in the seventh grade at Mitchell, so they are busy during the day now.

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So thank God for that and everything else is good.

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Hey, cheers to that. I also have a seventh grader and a freshman and a senior.

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So, yes, I'll just mention, I don't know if anyone saw the council meeting last night,

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but the city is looking to purchase two empty office buildings to put a community center

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in.

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So, if you get a chance to review that, that's an exciting thing that's coming.

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So, that's it for you.

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Nothing from me?

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I'd like to thank Commissioner Hewn for picking up the torch on the short drive

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Hopefully someday we will figure out a way to solve that problem.

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You drive down the street in my neighborhood, you see what an impact it really does have.

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Other than that, it's, I don't know what to do, two meetings in one month.

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That's kind of,

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oh, we now have 150 screaming kids

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active out at the mine shaft as we're getting ready for this year's rendition

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of Heartstoppers. Tickets will go on sale next month. Come on out and scream for a

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cause. It's quite a operation out there with all those kids.

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Well I'd like to be

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one to say I'm really happy all your kids are back to school because now I'm

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stuck in that traffic again. But no that's great it's always good to see

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the kids back. I would like to congratulate Elliot on his candidacy so it doesn't sound

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like he's going to run opposed. The main thing I want to say is this weekend was kind of

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an eye-opener for me. My son was in the hawkfire evacuation zone up in Reno and it just triggered

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for me that we all need to be prepared. So have your go boxes ready. Think about

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now what you really need to take in the event of an emergency. Luckily he's kind

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a young in his life and he didn't have a whole lot of stuff that was critical, but I know

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I have a lot. So just it really brought that to the forefront for me and I living here haven't

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been through the app going off like you're in the go and you're no go evacuate don't

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evacuate was a little stressful Saturday and Sunday for me, but all is well and everybody's

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healthy and safe. So just think about fire preparedness as we enter into the fall.

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That's all I have.

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Love it.

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Great safety tip.

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And Arlene, do you have your planning manager report for us?

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Yes.

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Nothing too major.

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Just a reminder, there's a Good Neighbor Day happening next month on the 17th at Countryside

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Park and also in October, October 14th in Gold Rush Park.

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So that'll be kind of, you'll see a community engagement out there along with city staff

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and other partner agencies.

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It's always a fun time.

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I enjoy doing it, especially the Halloween one is my favorite one.

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So, yeah, so hopefully we'll see some of the planning commissioners there.

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And then also we will be getting busy.

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So it just heads up to everybody.

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I know things are picking up on the development side.

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And so we will be, you know, getting busy.

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So yeah, again, if you have any questions, just please reach out.

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I am always accessible via text.

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I'm a massive texture as you've already figured out.

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But it's the best way to get ahold of me because I'm always in a meeting when we are another so so that's all here

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Thank you. Great. Thank you so much. All right with that. We'll adjourn at 5.58 tonight

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